Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - BROS: Toronto Mike'd #906

Episode Date: August 25, 2021

Mike chats with Ewan and Shamus Currie from The Sheepdogs about BROS, their smooth side project. They also kick out the jams and it's fantastic....

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Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me this week are the Sheepdogs, Ewan and Seamus Curry, also known as Bros. Yeah. And there's an exclamation mark on Bros.
Starting point is 00:01:42 No. No. It's all caps though. Okay. Yeah. That's why I had to shout it It's all caps though. Okay. Yeah. That's why I had to shout it. That's the caveat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Okay. I had it like in my mind, it was stylized all caps with an exclamation mark at the end, but it's not that aggressive. That's very like early 2000s indie band, like the exclamation. Good to see you guys. Is it hot enough for you?
Starting point is 00:02:01 That's your first question of the day. Yes. Yes, it is. Toronto is stinking hot as we speak right now. And Seamus, you were telling me a few minutes ago, they said this is the hottest day of the year. I'm a humidex. I think it's supposed to go up to 44 today.
Starting point is 00:02:15 That's why. It's not going to be 44 back here. We're going to claim some lake effect. And on that note, even before we get into it, I know you've been dying to crack open a fresh craft beer from Great Lakes. Oh, yeah. And I made you wait because, Seamus, I wanted it to be cracked open on the microphone. We should synchronize our cracks.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Can we get a countdown? All right. Three, two, one. Oh, yeah. Okay, good. Fresh from the brewery. And I do want to show, while you enjoy, so you're drinking the lager, and you've got the pale ale.
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's the Canuck. There you go. All right. So you've got a few in front of you, but if you do run out, just touch your nose, and I'll disappear and see if I can find some more for you. I'm going to crack mine open now, too. Let's do it. Hot day, August.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah, we actually made a video a couple weeks ago, and it was as hot as this, if not hotter, I want to say. I don't want to go against the weather Canada people. Environment Canada. But it was like 80-plus percent humidity, and we made a video that's actually coming out right away where Shamus and I are wearing three-piece suits like with top hats and tails.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Oh, my God. Like circa 1911. Yeah. And you were like drenched, I guess. Oh my, it was, I felt bad for the costume rental people. Yeah. And they're like, you just keep it. There've been some funky suits upon return.
Starting point is 00:03:36 That's for sure. Now for astute listeners will know, this is actually not Ewan's debut, but because Ewan was on episode 860, 860, you were joined by Ryan from the Sheepdogs. And we basically, that was like your Sheepdogs ep.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And we talked about, let me read what I wrote at the time. Your Saskatoon origin story. Yeah. Getting on the cover of Rolling Stone. I bet you haven't talked about that before. A couple times. That's an exclusive, everybody.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Yeah, I don't know how you got that one I don't know Feeling good And their new infectious jam Keep on loving you And we went for about an hour Because I was told that's all I had Like that was like someone said you have an hour
Starting point is 00:04:16 And we made it work Because you guys were doing a lot of press that day We were yeah I mean we probably could have made it longer But that's you know probably Warner made that happen. I don't know. But I'm just so excited that you two are here. And you're not just like the Ramones where they pretend to be brothers.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Like, you're really brothers. Yeah. That is correct. He's Dee Dee and I'm... Joey? Yeah, sure. We actually were brothers, but we took different names to give ourselves stage name.
Starting point is 00:04:44 No, that's not true. And you're from Dublin, right? Seamus and Ewan. Well, Ewan's from Edinburgh, but I'm from Dublin. Honestly, I can't wait to get into it. We're going to talk bros, and we're actually going to kick out the jams as well. So this is going to be awesome. But right off the top, I need to do this because this is the last episode I'm going to record before TMLX 8.
Starting point is 00:05:05 And I just want people to know, including you two, if you're around Friday from 6 to 9 p.m., we have an event on the patio of Great Lakes Beer. And Great Lakes, they'll buy you your first pour of Fresh Craft Beer. But this is awesome. Palma Pasta is going to feed you. So you just have to show up. No price. It's a free event.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You show up. You get fed. You get a drink and you have to you know witness us record the uh pandemic friday finale stew stone cam gordon and i but there's a fourth mic and you could jump on there and just say hi so this invitation i extended to you too and anyone listening uh friday 6 to 9 p.m lovely lovely We won't be there unfortunately but we're filming a kids TV show that day.
Starting point is 00:05:47 What show? As we do every Friday. You're on the Wiggles finally. Oh my god if we could get that Wiggles audience man. Well Splashin' Boots
Starting point is 00:05:56 could happen you know they're kind of like our Wiggles. I met yeah we think we met them. They clean up at the Junos every year. Yeah I know they do.
Starting point is 00:06:02 They do well. I heard some wild stories. No. Let's hear we uh we're doing like a show called backyard beats that we did it before and uh it's like you know of course we've never heard of it because we don't have kids but then friends who have kids will send us a photo of their kid watching us and that's not the that's not the cartoon with the beatles songs in it is it? I feel like they have no idea. It's another one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And where is this? Is it like a CBC show? Is it a tree house? Like you have any idea? Okay. But we got to look for this. We got to hunt this down and check out. I'd Google it.
Starting point is 00:06:35 You know, it's on there. Yeah. I think it's like the host builds an instrument and like teaches a kid to play it. And then we come on a jam with them or something, but yeah, it should be fun.
Starting point is 00:06:42 It's the kind of thing where they like, they take anything that's like slightly suggestive and they sheen it over so that it can't be taken. I don't think they have a Great Lakes sponsorship is what we're trying to say. It's for the parents because when you're kids watching shows like that, you need to have a drink or two.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Well, I'll tell you, the reputation of children's performers is kind of that. Like, they're like, they get down. You're talking about Fred Penner. Fred Penner is cool. He's cool. I mean, I think the reputation of even like the Wiggles and stuff
Starting point is 00:07:17 is that they like, if you think about it, they do two shows a day and they're done by 6 p.m. What you want to do, I had Dude the Clown on recently and he said he was so concerned with people like telling stories out of school or whatever he hired like
Starting point is 00:07:29 a security person to like come to this party because he would host these big parties just to like i don't know to make sure that nothing gets out of hand because it can destroy your career you know you gotta be careful if your child's entertaining shout out to raffy by the way i know i'm a great deal older than you too but Raffy was my guy when I was growing up. I had all the Raffy albums and he was my children's entertainer of choice. I'm sure Raffy got down to you, man. Isn't he from the 60s and 70s?
Starting point is 00:07:54 He was like a hippie dude. I bet you for sure. Oh yeah, for sure. So we're going to kick out jams that you guys have chosen and I can't wait because they're so damn cool, but I'm going to actually play a couple of bro songs first. But first I'm going to play a bro song just to be difficult. Here's a bro's song.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Oh. Just to be difficult. I think I know where this is going. When will I, will I be famous? Seamus, do you know what I'm playing here? We sound great on this one, eh? A little different style here. The bras. Ewan knew where I was going right away.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He could smell that one coming from a mile away. So when you chose your name, though, did you know about these bros, or did that not matter to you because you're different bros, different time, different style? I'm just curious how that works. I've never heard of them, actually. I mean, when we chose bros, right away we Googled it, of course, and found that there was this band.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Right. But they hadn't done anything in like 20-plus years. They had become actors, and so we felt that it was fairly safe. I mean, the Sheepdogs, early in our career, we changed our name as well. So I was pretty sensitive to the potential for having to change a name. Remind me the original name of the Sheepdogs? The Breaks. The Breaks.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And there was a bunch of similar names. Oh, the Ampersands way back in the day. Yeah, I was very sure. But so we were pretty sure that we'd be okay. And then I think like two weeks before our album came out, they announced their reunion tour. But my friend in London sent me a photo of a billboard
Starting point is 00:09:48 announcing their concert at the O2 Arena and they used our photo. Is that right? Yeah. That's amazing. Somebody went to Google Images and stuck in Bro's band. And they're pretty...
Starting point is 00:10:00 They have a very extreme look. Yeah, they look like models. They're very put together. So I'm old enough that I remember this. And it was a really, it was a flash in the pan. Like it was a short period of time with the bros stuff. And it wasn't that big on this side of the pond, to be honest. You knew it was happening.
Starting point is 00:10:16 But they were a big deal in Europe, especially the UK. But, and so that's wild to see you guys. You look like you're, you look rather different than the other bros. But I was curious if it mattered that there was another bros, but apparently it doesn't matter. I think there's like the occasional, you know, person Googling one band or the other who would be a little like off-put, but I think when you dig a little deeper than the surface level glands,
Starting point is 00:10:43 you can tell there's pretty different entities going on here. Do you guys, like, do the other bros, do they have the exclamation mark? Maybe that's where I'm getting this exclamation mark. I've got to dig into it. Okay, so let's bring down the other bros because we're going to play you guys, you bros. And you are really bros, which I think is kind of key here. But tell me, like, what came first, the sheepdogs or bros?
Starting point is 00:11:11 Well, we've been brothers longer than the Sheepdogs but Bros started up in about 2014 ish uh we were just Seamus and I both moved to Toronto that year I know this is a Toronto focused podcast so we came from Saskatoon and we moved out here and we had just we had just finished making a new sheepdogs record and then there was like this dormant period where like i don't know why but it seems like it drives me nuts how like rap they'll just like drop an album right away it seems so awesome to me but in rock they're like okay we're gonna take six months to fire up all these things and right so we were like at this downtime and so shamus and i we just started working on music together we had a buddy had a like a little uh like backyard sort of setup that we were using to kind of screw around with music and then we just like started
Starting point is 00:11:56 going to work in studios downtime i think that's a gand Downtime. Anyway, it's 90s old rock. Yeah, I know Judd from the band. Yeah, well, I share First Day of Spring every First Day of Spring, appropriately enough. Here's a jam I think particularly listeners of CBC Radio and a certain show on that are going to know this song,
Starting point is 00:12:18 so I'm going to play this and then we're going to go back and then we're going to get to some current stuff. I feel like I should talk over it. Today I'm joined by Seamus. There you go. Get in the spirit of it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Get your Tom Power on. Powers. Shout out to Tom Power. Is it Power or Power? It's Power singular. Is it? I always screw it up. Sorry, Tom. My high school was called Tom Power. Okay. Is it Power or Power? It's Power singular. Is it? Yeah. I always screw it up. Sorry, Tom. My high school was called Michael Power.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Any relation? With those priests, those Brazilian, you never know with those guys. You never know here. Okay, but this is the right bros. This is you guys. And this became like the song, the cue song. So tell me, and this is your first, this is earlier stuff from you guys.
Starting point is 00:13:07 But tell me a little, like firstly, how does this song become the Q song? They just did a call for, they're looking for a new song. I mean, you know. They were rebranding, I guess. Yeah, they pretty famously changed hosts a couple times. I think they had to do some rebranding. I'm surprised they didn't change the name, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Well, I think it was Amperson. Amperson. Right. I mean, even with the sort of shameful exit of the initial host, it was still a very popular show. And then I guess they tried out Shad for a while, and then they moved on from him. So they needed a new theme.
Starting point is 00:13:43 They were actually looking at a different one of our songs initially, but it was called Booger Sugar, and somebody, I guess, explained what that was slang for. Right. And so they switched gears, but it's been good because there's a certain type of person that, like, will have no idea who me or Seamus is, but if we say that we did the Q theme, then they know.
Starting point is 00:14:01 You're right. There's a certain person that would mean a lot. And I mean, I've listened to my fair share of Q, and I don't think I knew, for the longest time, I did not know this was you guys. I don't think I connected those dots
Starting point is 00:14:13 for the longest time. Yeah, they chopped it up pretty good. Yeah, it's much more of an instrumental. But it's funky as hell. And this is a style. Actually, you know what? A lot of this will come out when we kick out the jams. So here, let me just play something more recent,
Starting point is 00:14:28 and then we're going to get to these jams before you guys sweat away on me here. Let's... It sort of was the first Big Bros song that kind of kicked off the whole project in a lot of ways. Here we go. Is this yacht rock? I think you could throw it in that idiom.
Starting point is 00:14:51 That keyboard tone is very yacht rock. Yeah, it's a Rhodes with a phaser on it. Michael McDonald, eat your heart out. I'm listening for Michael McDonald. He's in there somewhere. Steve Lukather, a guest on this show. Oh man, I wish.
Starting point is 00:15:18 You're never gonna stop when they keep on calling it off, yeah. You're never gonna stop when, when they keep on calling it off, yeah You're never gonna stop when Whether you keep on rocking it off Woo! I fucking dig it, honestly. You're right, it would fit right in. I mean, you're right, I think I made the point first.
Starting point is 00:15:35 But I was right. This fits right in with your yacht rock mix. I mean, it's just right in there. It's just so smooth. It's just, and it's awesome. So this is the, tell me about the new album, and then we're going to kick out jams. And I think through that process,
Starting point is 00:15:49 we'll learn more about like your inspirations and influences and all that good stuff. Sure. Well, I think it goes back to downtime. The nature of the Bros project is kind of we work on it whenever we're not doing cheap dog stuff. We're off tour. We got a bit of time to spare. Usually ewan will book a studio day here and there over the span of it
Starting point is 00:16:10 was about three years that we were working on volume two right and we would just yeah we would just chip away at these songs you know whoever had the hot idea at the time we'd follow up on that we'd take turns bringing in songs in and and we tried to play all the instruments ourselves. If we couldn't play something, we'd bring in a hired gun. But it was sort of a vanity project that we get to chip away at. Who's this right here I'm hearing? That's you, Jay. That's me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:37 You're a talented mofo. Get out of here. I had a girl ask me, who makes our beats? I said, it's us playing instruments. It's just like we have a world interest. We're old school like that. A lot of kinds of music. They think you bought this bundle of beats or whatever.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Yeah, from Reason or whatever it is. Well, the Toronto Mike theme was built on that. It's all like it's done, right? Ill Vi bought some beats. And you put down some rhymes. And next thing you know, you got a song. But you guys can't get old school here this funk is amazing so never gonna stop man yeah the whole thing is great so you're calling it volume two yeah we just we called the first one volume one because we just i don't know it it's pretty
Starting point is 00:17:20 diverse music it's sort of like we kind of wanted to give the hint that this was going to be an ongoing project. We also are big fans of Led Zeppelin and Chicago. Remember the horn band? And they just numbered their records. That's true. That is true. Lazy. And then there's Leonard Part 6.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Bill Cosby. That's right. Oh, yeah, we're not supposed to talk about him. But, yeah, the movie still exists. That's right. Don't look for the not supposed to talk about him. But yeah, the movie still exists. That's right. Don't look for the first five volumes. You'll be very frustrated. Okay, so lately I've been listening to Ongoing History of New Music.
Starting point is 00:17:54 They like to talk a lot about, in fact, I think they recycle this material every six months, but they like to talk a lot about the Gallagher brothers having this big feud in Oasis. Are you guys on the other end of the spectrum? Where are you guys at in terms of how you get along? There's a bit of feuding. I feel like with the Gallaghers, they realized very quickly on that that was a bit that they could do maybe.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You think so? Because they've sold me. Not now. I'm so gullible though. They're going to reunite for a gazillion dollar tour at some point, I'm sure. But I don't know. We get along pretty well. We'll argue
Starting point is 00:18:28 in the studio, but usually can resolve it. It doesn't really extend beyond the studio. We argue outside. We spend a lot of time together because we're in the Sheepdogs together as well. Sure. It's just part of the deal, but brothers argue. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:18:43 By the way, are there any upcoming gigs for the Sheepdogs that you can shout out? Not in Ontario. Well, no. We're playing in Vancouver in the Malkin Bowl. We're playing in Truro. Come to Truro. I've been to Truro. I had a guest
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'm trying to jog my memory. Oh, yes. AJ Andrews was on the show and she's from Truro, as is Arash Madani. Oh, yeah. And Jonathan Torrens. Oh, yeah. We knew about that one, yeah. Okay, you knew about that one. The Trailer Park Boys connection and everything.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Our good friend Matt Dunlap, who does the artwork for Sheepdogs and Bros, he is from Truro, originally. I had a great slice of pizza in Truro. It was called the Farm Pizza, I think it was called. All right. If anyone in Truro.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Shout out Farm Pizza. So you're playing Truro? Is that what I heard? I think it's a festival. Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. Usually you know what's going to happen with your summer well in advance in this year. Just all these last minute festivals, outdoor stuff popping up,
Starting point is 00:19:45 but we just played in Winnipeg inside, uh, the Burton Cummings theater. By any chance, were the Watchmen involved in this festival or is that a different? No, they were, we played with them the night before.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Okay. That's where I'm okay. Okay. Okay. They're good friends with the show, but, uh, cool.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Okay. So we're going to, again, I'm excited to kick out these jams you guys have picked because i really like as i listened to them last night uh there's a you know a certain vibe and then you can hear bros like it's uh totally i can't wait to hear you guys speak to these things so we're going to but i randomly decided that seamus will go first by the way who's the older brother me that would be you yes. So we're going to do the youngster first,
Starting point is 00:20:25 Seamus. But by the way, I love the name Seamus. Thank you. I just think it's a cool name. I'll tell my mom that when I see her later today. Really? So does your mom live in Toronto?
Starting point is 00:20:34 No, but she's here visiting right now. Okay. Yeah. A little family connection. Yeah. Any chance if this goes well, you'll say,
Starting point is 00:20:39 hey mom, if you got an hour or so, you might want to listen to us kicking out the jam. Oh, she 100% will be listening to this. Okay, so what's her name? I want to say hello to her. Lynn.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Lynn. Okay, shout out to Lynn. There you go. Glad you're listening. We're going to hear your voice. You're a good man, Mike. And I'm glad you guys are Blue Jays fans. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You came separately and each had on a... Is that the real deal? Is that the original logo? Yeah. Seamus, I'm talking to you. This is actually Ewan's old hat, but I've worn it more. I've worn it all over the world. I wore it when I was a short order cook in Saskatoon.
Starting point is 00:21:14 It's seen a lot of action. I'm going to wear it to the game tomorrow. Oh, awesome. That's awesome. Without further ado, here is... Let me make sure I'm organized here. Okay. I believe this will I'm organized here. Okay. I believe this will be Seamus' first jam. I'll look you in the eyes as I play it
Starting point is 00:21:29 because you'll let me know right away if I screwed this up. Okay, I will. If I got this right, they're all going to be right. It was all done in a very big rush, but here we go. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Lush. It's very lush. I was about to say that. He's back together again Yeah, everyone is glad that he's together again Just like the old days, old days, old days He could sing, he could sing, he could sing He's back together again You know he's still got the moves, you know the groove's still there Just like
Starting point is 00:22:35 The old days, old days, old days Yeah, he could sing, he could sing Oh, listen to him sing, yeah Back together again, back together again Singing the same old story You know what's awesome, Seamus? I'm listening to this jam, Back Together Again by Hall & Oates, and it's just lightly raining on me. Like, yeah, there's precipitation as we speak. I've got you guys covered here.
Starting point is 00:23:10 They put up the tarp just for you guys. But I get a little bit in the back here, and it actually feels really good. Refreshing. Much like this jam. Much like this jam. So tell us, why did you choose Back Together Again by Hall & Oates? Well, Hall & Oates are a bit of a template for the bros band. Two dudes singing in harmony.
Starting point is 00:23:29 They're not brothers, but they definitely have a bit of a brotherly vibe between the two of them. Also, just guys who unabashedly loved soul music. You know, Philly in the 70s. You know, we loved this kind of two-man approach to soul
Starting point is 00:23:43 and funky, feel-good jams. My buddy, Stu Stone, who will be co-hosting the Pandemic Friday finale on Friday at Great Lakes from 6 to 9 p.m. Stu Stone loves Yacht Rock passionately. We did a whole episode about Yacht Rock. Is Hall & Oates Yacht Rock? Yeah, I think so.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I think you could slip them in there. They could definitely straddle the border. We prefer the term smooth music. You know, because we actually jokingly refer to ourselves as, like, the blue-collar Hall & Oates. Like, we don't own any yachts. Right. But, yeah, I mean, it's sort of a malign genre a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You know, like, I always hated the phrase guilty pleasure or like, because like what's wrong with music that just feels and sounds good? Right. Like Steely Dan, right? You hear a Steely Dan song. I love Steely Dan. Yeah. You dig the vibe.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It might not be like, you might not tell your buddies like, hey, you love Steely Dan. I'll tell my buddies I love Steely Dan. Right. It's like thinking man's rock, you know? Without a doubt. And it sounds, again, sounds lush, I think, my buddies I love Steely Dan. Right. It's like thinking man's rock, you know? Without a doubt. And it sounds, again, it sounds lush,
Starting point is 00:24:47 I think, is a term I heard from you. Yes, absolutely. And the song has a real comeback feel to it again, the back together again. Triumphant.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Coming back, you know? And it's not overplayed. Like, this is not a Hall & Oates song you hear, you know, you hear a lot of Hall & Oates songs.
Starting point is 00:25:00 It's not Rich Girl. Right, right, yeah. But there's a lot of Hall & Oates you might hear, and this is not one of them. Really, it's kind of like,
Starting point is 00:25:07 it's still maybe underappreciated. Absolutely. And another thing I want to say is it's nice to hear Oates sing the lead. Okay, okay. Do you ever get to sing the lead? Oh, yeah. I do.
Starting point is 00:25:18 And as a fellow mustachioed man in a two-piece outfit, I got a lot of love for Oates. Are you the Oates of bros? Sure. Does that mean I wrote She's Gone? Sure. I can't sing as high as Daryl Hall, though.
Starting point is 00:25:32 On to Ewan's first jam here. They're all good here, actually. Let's get in there. Oh, yeah. A fine pick. Fine pick. Oh, yeah. Comment on each other's picks as well.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You dig it, you don't dig it. This is definitely an 8.5 out of 10, I would say. Because you don't know each other's picks, which is cool. All right. All right. Hey, baby. It's your time now Hey baby You made it somehow
Starting point is 00:26:15 Don't let nobody Come and bring you down Hey baby You got a wanna run Come and bring you down. Hey, baby. You got a more than a run. You know. You got a more than a run. I know you. You have just begun.
Starting point is 00:26:44 When you came into my life Hey, baby. JJ K. Oh, yeah. Nice. Why this jam, Ewan? Well, I love... JJ's one of my dudes.
Starting point is 00:26:56 He... You know, when you get your, like, Spotify and year-end wrap-up, I think three years in a row, he was my most listened-to artist. Wow. And it's like, it's very relaxing.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Like, the older I get, the more I want to listen to smooth music. And that's not really explicitly Yacht Rock, but it's like, it's just very chill. Like, I like to sit in my yard and barbecue.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it's kind of like, almost like Jimmy Buffett meets Tom Waits, this song. It's kind of like, which is a bizarre combination, but this is my Jimmy Buffett. Tom Waits this song. It's kind of like, which is a bizarre combination, but this is my Jimmy Buffett. He's super chill.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Instantly relaxing. Yeah, he takes it easy. And it's not like a very overt margarita-like type of taking it easy. It's like a real, I just take my time and I play how I feel. He definitely sings like he's expending
Starting point is 00:27:42 zero energy. But it's very nice, relaxed delivery. Also, master of textures, all the little percussive sounds slip in there. Yeah, he's tasty as can be. Very well-constructed beat. I will say in the headphones right now at this very moment where it's nice and hot, but there's a little bit of rain and we're drinking our fresh craft beer from Great Lakes it's sounding pretty damn perfect well done well done
Starting point is 00:28:15 I steal too If you guys were going to send somebody to a website to get some bros... To get some bros? Phrasing, Michael, phrasing. Come again? What, to get like a vinyl? Yeah, exactly. Where would you direct?
Starting point is 00:28:44 I think we're on the Dinalone store. Yeah, we're on Dinalone Records, Toronto label. You can get all your bros merchandise, Dinalone Records. We have comic books and all kinds of stuff. We made a bros comic book this year. And did you guys draw that yourself?
Starting point is 00:29:01 No. How talented are you exactly? I'm pretty good at stick figures, but that's about it. Yeah, we got a buddy from LA to do it. It's cool. It tells the bro's origin story. Oh, I dig it. So it goes back to, you're running that back to Saskatoon.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Exactly. Okay, cool. And speaking of Saskatoon, before we kick out the second jam from Seamus, which Seamus, I liked so much and I wasn't familiar with it, believe it or not, but I liked it so much, I literally put it in the back of something I was recording this morning because I totally am digging it. Before I get there, though,
Starting point is 00:29:34 what were the jams you guys would hear in the house growing up? What kind of music did you have surrounding you? I remember hearing a lot of the Stevie Wonder Musicquarium Greatest Hits record that our old man would play. Could be worse, man. That's good. He had this Chicago mixtape that he would play a lot. Our dad was a composer, so growing up he was very much into the world of classical music, but he loved Chicago because they had horns and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:30:01 He was a trombone player when he was a young man. Frank Sinatra. A lot of Sinatra. He did a lot of 50s recordings with the big Nelson Riddle arrangements that are like the legendary ones, but they just sound huge. Even like Crete on the rock side, we'd listen to Credence. Yeah. We'd listen to the Bee Gees.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Our parents really liked the Carpenters and like Seals and Caroths, and like, you know, very smooth. They definitely like to keep it smooth. Yeah. Um, so. Doobie Brothers.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Yeah. The Mike McDonald era. Oh man. There's, that's the, like that, that is the yacht rock song. Is that the Doobie bounce?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah, very much so. Yeah. Fool, what a fool believes. Great jam. Absolutely. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Although neither are kicking it out, but we're going to get something great that'll maybe make you think of a hip-hop jam, but we'll get there in a moment. Here is the second jam from Seamus. Oh, yes. Honestly. Just hook that to my veins.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Holy moly. So Ewan's going to be mad Because I picked this version of this song We love There's so many good versions of this song It's gonna be a whole debate I'm taking care of business Woman can't you see I can think of two better versions
Starting point is 00:31:21 I gotta make it for you And I've got to make it for me This is the smoothest one though This is the most like I can think of two better versions. This is the smoothest one, though. This is the most erudite, sophisticated one. The piano. Who is this guy? Can I say it? Can I give it away? Sure, you can.
Starting point is 00:31:39 This is the main ingredient. Cuba Gooding Sr., I believe, on the lead vocal. Fun fact. Love it. Also, if we can listen to it there's a great skit in this song after the second chorus which is my favorite part of this whole song Just tell me when to turn it back up This is a hot topic for us because we love
Starting point is 00:31:59 the Isley's, Isley Bros I think did the original version of this song and we love the average white band version of this song which is we love the average white band version of this song. Which is a little faster and maybe a little cokier, but pretty amazing as well. I can totally hear the inspiration for Bros. I hear it all over your jams. It's wild. Absolutely. We love...
Starting point is 00:32:21 There's no finer music in the world Than soul music That's the best music ever made It feels It's just like a combination of like Oh here's the skit Hello It's me baby When you coming home?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Well I ain't tonight But why? Baby why? Because you know I gotta stay out here Take care of the business of work But I had something good for you tonight baby I know I know it, man. He's got work to do.
Starting point is 00:32:54 We need the rent, too. Oh, baby, but why? Oh, I love it. That is too good to be true. Where has this been hiding all my life? Oh, the old-time theatrics and their voices. It's like a radio play. It's amazing. Oh, my God god this telephone man holy smokes uh but that's that's yeah you know
Starting point is 00:33:10 she needs she needs some loving but they also need to pay the rent like there's a whole story there i love it she's got to get used to him coming home a little late yeah relatable also no better song to start your day too then i got work to Got Work To Do. This will get you out the door and hustling. Again, on high rotation in my household since I discovered it thanks to you sticking it on the list. Fucking love it. You're welcome, bud. Also, a lot of great other versions to check out. I'm going to check them all out.
Starting point is 00:33:36 It's great. Yeah, The Average White Band doing awesome. They're white guys from Scotland. They do... Dynamite version. So good. You want to pick up the pieces of that song? I think so.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Cut the cake. Oh, sure. Yeah. That was a big jam. Sure. They do that. The funkiest white guys probably ever. Yeah, they're awesome.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Speaking of average white band, ignore the wasps if they're bugging you. That's all right. What an Anglo-Saxon Protestant. See what I did there. Okay. They are like around, but they're lazy sons of guns. Like they're not going to.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yes, they're very punch drunk at this point. Yeah, they're not well. So they're not going to sting you, I don't think. Although if they are, I'm not responsible. Sign the waiver before you get it back here. Wow. Okay. You and Second Jam.
Starting point is 00:34:24 Yeah. Forgot what I put. Let's get to it. Oh, hell yeah. Track one of her first record. Listen to my bluebird man She can't tell you why Deep within her heart you see She knows when we cry
Starting point is 00:35:06 What you're like There she sits A lofty bird Strange as color blue Like it's forgotten now She thinks only of you Strange is color blue. I guess we'll cut it now. She thinks I'm never you. Woo! Just you.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Ooh, I get chills when she gets a high note every time. Get all those blues. Must be a thousand hues. And each is differently used You just know You see them as the prize By the depth of her eyes If you get her to fly
Starting point is 00:35:52 She got soul She got soul She got soul Wow Hold on Wow. Hold on. I was bringing it down, but not yet. I'll sing on this part. Honestly, guys, I've done this jam kicking,
Starting point is 00:36:22 I think 90 times now, maybe more. And it's almost like I know I'm going to 90 times now, maybe more and it's almost like I know I'm going to get a Springsteen song and it's almost like I can like It is such a pleasure to get a bunch of jams that haven't been overplayed to death. There's no
Starting point is 00:36:37 taking care of business from BTO on your jam list You know what I mean? This is honestly refreshing. What are we listening to here? This is Bonnie Raitt, the great Bonnie Raitt, and it's Bluebird, which is, again, another cover that there are many versions of, but this is the best one. This is the first song on her first record. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:55 I think she's like 21, and it's like with one of these stories where they went and recorded it in a room, just her and all our musicians, and she is still so talented. Everybody wanted to play with her. And she's really criminally underrated, I would say. She's such a fantastic singer and guitar player. I don't even know young Bonnie Raitt. I only discover Bonnie Raitt when she has her big hits
Starting point is 00:37:21 in whatever that was, early 90s. Yeah, let's give her something to talk about. Yeah, which is a good song. But she has that sweetness hits in like whatever that was, early 90s. Yeah, let's give her something to talk about. Yeah, which is a good song. But she has that sweetness but also can rock. She's sweeter than Janis Joplin could ever be. She's smoother than Joni Mitchell and more like fun. And just she's like the ultimate. I mean, she's one of the great rockers ever.
Starting point is 00:37:43 She's a hero to me, I think, just how cool she is, too. Soulful. Yeah, amazing voice. And a ripping slide player, too. Yeah, great player. Now, speaking of Bluebird, do either of you think that the Blue Jays will play in the postseason this year? Not looking good.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Not so good, Al. It's been a real nosedive in the lastseason this year. Not looking good. Not so good, Al. It's been a real nosedive in the last few weeks here. Even Vlad, he's like kind of flirting with 300 now, isn't he? He's kind of like. Yeah, he's been rough since the All-Star break. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, we're going to the game tomorrow with our mom.
Starting point is 00:38:19 But, yeah, it was like after that. What, that first. There was a 9-2 homestand. There was a 9-2 homestand. When they came back home, everyone was like after that. 9-2? It was a 9-2 homestand. It was a 9-2 homestand. When they came back home, everyone was like, feels a little bit like 2015. And now it kind of feels more like 2017. Springer's back in the IL.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Right. Yeah, he was on fire too. But yeah, it's not looking good. And the East, as usual, is just a glut of excellent teams. So, you know, it's tough. This is supposed to be a down year for the Red Sox, is just a glut of excellent teams. It's tough. This is supposed to be a down year for the Red Sox and they're as good as ever. The Rays are always good.
Starting point is 00:38:51 I couldn't name the Rays starting nine and then the best team in the majors, basically. The mathematicians out there will tell you that your chances are getting slimmer all the time, but something like 15% or something like that. We should switch to the National League
Starting point is 00:39:07 and we might get in there. But a damn fun team. A hell of a team to root for. But, you know, because I enjoy regular season Toronto Maple Leaf action. I think that's a fun team. And then the playoffs hit and it's whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:22 I feel like we've got to see what happens. Next year is the year, I think, for the Blue Jays. They really do need to make some noise in the postseason, next season, I think. They get that bullpen shored up a little bit there. Let's see. At least Rodgers has spent some bucks on this team. You mentioned Springer.
Starting point is 00:39:40 He wasn't in the bargain bin. That was real money. That's for sure. There's an attempt there. Let's see how they do next year. We're kicking out Seamus' third jam. You ready, buddy? Yeah, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Oh, yeah. A sentimental favorite. I love this one. And I love sentimental favorites. Na na na na na na na na I'll be living on a plane tomorrow I'm going back and why I go I just don't know You know my memories of her they are many I've got to see that girl I just don't know. If she will bring me sorrow, I've got to see that girl. Girl from the mountain, I'm begging you remember me please. Girl from the mountain, where are you? Are you gonna set my soul free? Okay, I'm familiar with the Ghetto Boys, but not the Ghetto Brothers here. This is Girl from the Mountain.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And again, sounds great, but I don't know if I've ever heard this before. You should have picked the Ghetto Boys. Ghetto Boys do have a great song that samples a Donny Hathaway jam, but it's pretty raw stuff. Anyway,
Starting point is 00:41:52 the Ghetto Brothers, I didn't really know about them until they came up on like a Spotify playlist that I was checking out. And then I did some reading because I thought
Starting point is 00:41:58 this song immediately hit me. It's got this wonderful nostalgic feel to it. They were a gang from New York. They were like a Puerto Rican street gang feel to it they were a gang from new york they were like a puerto rican street gang but they also were a band but they were like were apparently like this gang that was kind of celebrated in new york for being like you know they treated their female members well and they were for social justice and they had a band they're a good gang yeah they're
Starting point is 00:42:19 one of the good gangs i don't know if you're like if you're like me i grew up watching a movie called the warriors that i was very obsessed with. Yes, yes. Which really kind of like made the idea of being in a New York gang seem very glamorous. But when I was reading about these ghetto brothers, it seemed cool that they were a gang. They had a band. I like that they're kind of like, they have this sort of like, you know, like macho energy to them. But they still like, you know, they sing in harmony. They're kind of out of tune at times but it very much sounds like you know
Starting point is 00:42:46 hanging with the boys hanging like traveling around like acting tough but also trying to write the coolest song you can which is very much sort of what the idea of being in a band is like you know you're traveling around with your boys you know you're you're getting into trouble but you've got each other's backs but you also love to sing in harmony sometimes and like rock rock stuff like doo-wop groups, man. Exactly, yeah. But I particularly like this song because it sounds like a song I would have written when I was a young guy just learning how to play guitar.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Like the chord moves and even the way this guy plays his crazy fuzz-out solo, it's like... That could be me in there oh yeah but like yeah the percussion and stuff that they have in there like they got a funky kind of latin undercurrent to the rock but it's also sounds like a 60s jam like i don't know it's it's sort of it gets me right in the feels, you know? I really like this jam. Inspired choice. Thank you. Thank you. The ghetto,
Starting point is 00:43:48 I'm digging it. Not the ghetto boys. The ghetto brothers. And the album cover is like, it's literally a, a pick of their like, what do they call it? A cut,
Starting point is 00:43:57 you know, the jacket, the jacket that they have. Right. It's pretty badass. And it's not a sequel song to the girl from Ipanema. We also have easily found its way into my playlist, though,
Starting point is 00:44:08 because we love the Brazilian. I'm getting it, man. João Gilberto was a vicious gang. He was great with a knife. You want to stay clear of that guy. Also, yeah, ending on a major seven chord like that. Very sweet. Oh, amazing.
Starting point is 00:44:20 And this next jam, by the way, from you and his wife. I'm very excited because we just kicked it out on Pandemic Friday. And well, because it's been sampled by a rather popular hip hop jam. So we're going to get to that in a moment. But I do just want to quickly thank Sticker U. If you guys are getting bros stickers, man, go to StickerU.com. They're based in Liberty Village. So which one's, oh, another, that's a lager.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Okay. Yeah, you both got a lager going here. Okay. There's an IPA if you like IPAs. I don't know. Okay. Not so much. All right, well, let me know if...
Starting point is 00:44:51 You want me to see if there's another lager? Do you have any more lagers? These lagers are going down pretty smooth. Yeah, but this is the only part of the show you can't do without me. So here, let me... Here's what I'm going to do. When I start the jam, I'll run in and grab it
Starting point is 00:45:00 because I do want to thank... Yeah, stickeru.com. Good... I talk to the owner. I like it when I can talk to the yes, stickeru.com. I talk to the owner. I like it when I can talk to the owner of a company. You know what I mean? It's not a big conglomerate and you can never find an owner. But shout out to stickeru.com.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Great stickers. And I urge all FOTMs to support them. Ridley Funeral Home. They're here in New Toronto. I know you were telling me earlier that you went to Humber College. Did you go to Humber College? No. No.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So shame is because Humber College is a New Toronto institution, as is Ridley Funeral Home. Go to RidleyFuneralHome.com to learn more. Brad from Ridley Funeral Home will be at TMLX 8 on Friday. McKay CEO Forums, they are the hosts of a podcast called the CEO Edge Podcast, fireside chats with inspiring CEOs and thought leaders. And I urge everybody to check it out. I just posted the most recent episode at torontomike.com.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Speaking of Mike's, Mike Majewski, he's the real estate agent who's in the know in Mimico. And if you go to realestatelove.ca, you can reach out to Mike and let Mike know that Toronto Mike sent you. That would be absolutely awesome. And did I tell you guys, I have in the freezer right now. This is exciting news. I'm glad you're sitting down.
Starting point is 00:46:15 This is big. So you have these big, beautiful red boxes in front of you. Yes. They're empty. But when you leave here today, there'll be a large frozen meat lasagna in there that you take home with you. That is beautiful. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Delicious. I did get a little excited when I saw these boxes. Yeah, well, that box, I keep it, you know, it's hot out here. I don't want your frozen. I knew that you did this on the show, so last time we did it, I didn't get any GLB beer or palma pasta. So, dude, we're going to take a photo afterwards at the Magic Tree. And do not depart without your lasagna.
Starting point is 00:46:53 I wouldn't dare. And by the way, the sticker, I forgot to give you this too. There are Toronto Mike stickers for you that were made by StickerU.com. So, you won't leave empty-handed. And I'm going to start this jam. I'm so damn excited to play it. Again, this is Ewan's third. Where are we actually at?
Starting point is 00:47:10 No. Yeah, this is Ewan's third jam. A stewstone favorite. We just kicked it out on Pandemic Fridays. I'm going to start her up, and then I'm going to go inside and see if I have any more cold beer for you guys. Here we go. I'm drinking a woman.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Well, it was cold when it got out here. I know. It's all right. It's wet. There's that keyboard tone I was talking about. Honestly, what a sample, too, when I hear this now. Wow. I'll be back.
Starting point is 00:47:39 I'll be back. I keep forgetting we're not in love anymore I keep forgetting things will never be the same again I keep forgetting how you made that so clear I keep forgetting love Every time you're near Every time I see your smile Hear your hello, saying you can only stay a while And I know that it's hard for you To say the things we both know are true
Starting point is 00:48:30 But tell me how come I keep forgetting We're not in love anymore Here he is, the man, Michael McDonald, yes! Voice of the 70s. Finally. As if I need to ask, why I Keep Forgetting by Michael McDonough? I mean, I figure a lot of people probably nowadays know more from Warren G, Nate Dogg, Regulators, which is a great jam too.
Starting point is 00:49:01 But, I mean, this song just greatly encapsulates sort of that world, like the smooth music world. You know, you've got, I'm guessing it's Jeff Porcaro playing drums. Who's from Toto. It's a safe guess. Who's like the man of the era.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Um, just slick, passionate vocals. Yeah. Especially nowadays where like, you know where we've been through the emo era and even hip-hop has gotten more about wearing your emotions on your sleeve. Back then, these guys weren't afraid to be vulnerable and kind of put themselves out there,
Starting point is 00:49:40 albeit back with some smooth music. I respect it. Also so keyboard heavy. Is there even a guitar on this track? Yeah, there's a little muted guy. It's all like, oh yeah, you're certainly right. So many clavs and electric pianos and synthesizers and stuff. So, Gino Vanelli's been over here.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Oh, yeah. He'd be great. And he, you know, he played live here. He can get smooth. Yeah. And there's a, in fact, shout out to Mark Wiseblood
Starting point is 00:50:08 from 1236.ca because he linked me to, I guess, in 2021, so very recently, Michael McDonald has been covering some Gino Vanelli
Starting point is 00:50:18 in concert. And it's pretty sweet stuff. Yeah. He's easy to satire, though. Like, I think it was a Mad TV that used to do the Michael McDowell. Oh, SCTV. Rick Moranis. The great sketch.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Christopher Cross. Kenny Rogers, they used to send him up on Mad TV. That's right. The SCTV sketch is amazing, though. Rick Moranis, you can't forget how funny that guy was because he's not around now. Man, he was funny. You know, of course, he was an aspiring Toronto DJ on Channel FM
Starting point is 00:50:50 before he struck it big with, yeah. And shout out to Rob Cowan who was on the show. They were a comedy duo in the early days before SCTV took off and Rick Moranis went straight to the stratosphere. But, yeah, absolutely. And what a jam. Yeah, that I keep forgetting by Michael McDonald. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And you know, Regulator? Regulators. Regulators, right. Was such a monster jam. Like I just seen that summer, whatever summer that was, it was like everywhere. 93, 94.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Sounds about right. I was actually watching a thing recently, interview with Bob James. Do you know who that guy is? He did a lot of slick, smooth jazz, funk, hybrid type of recordings. Theme from Taxi? Theme from Taxi.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Which is one of the greatest TV themes of all time. Oh, yeah. Definitely in our camp. So good. So good. And he would always have those albums that were like, they'd just be called Touchdown, and it'd be a close-up of a football.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Great album. Or like, you know, whatever. But he's one of the most sampled guys in history. The Nautilus. That album, that song, The Regulators, is sampled from Michael McDonald, Keep Forgetting, and one of his songs. And so they had to pay out two guys.
Starting point is 00:52:04 No doubt. And he's, he's got Bob James, like he missed out on a lot of his, uh, his royalties cause the statute of limitations ran out cause he didn't know. Okay. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:52:15 But, uh, yeah, it's a great YouTube video to watch. Bob James. I'll check that out. Absolutely. Check that out.
Starting point is 00:52:21 All right. Seamus, you ready? Uh, where am I at here? I get confused. Okay. Seamus, you ready? Where am I at here? Okay, Seamus, you ready for your fourth jam? This is your penultimate jam. Let's kick it.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I'm so ready. Oh, yeah. I like that you're surprised by what I play. I forgot what it was, yeah. Thank you. ¶¶ Yet another jam I did not know existed. Dom Salvador, the Folia de Reis, the Folly of the King, I believe it translates to. Yeah, this guy's a Brazilian pianist who, actually Ewan hit me too, he sent me this record.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Just an absolute dynamite, kind of soul, funky pianist, but very much steeped in the Brazilian style where he's got lots of samba rhythms. This version, he's playing the melodica, which is that little accordion-sounding thing. But it's got the laughing drum in there. It's got the mariachi trumpets. Yeah, the cuica.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Just, I don't know, this song just like immediately makes me feel happy. It's got like a kind of a goofy, like it feels like you're hanging out with your niece and your nephew kind of thing. Or like, almost like a Peanuts, Vince Giraldi kind of feel to it, you know? Or a yakety sax. Yeah, almost, yeah. It's a sense of humor to it for sure. It's a good bros song because it takes a pretty simple, structured song, but then it has all these different changes in terms of the instrumentation.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Not your typical instrumentation. It gives you different vibes. It's got a lot of sense of humor to it, I think, in a way. Something we love to do is take a very simple, melodic, harmonic idea, but then put a funky break beat or back beat behind it you know like uh our song two for t is a great example of that where we just took like the the dorkiest hokiest melody and then like you put a hip-hop beat behind it and you're like oh all of a sudden it's fun you know or kazoo solo yeah exactly yeah But something that just like really kind of is very lighthearted and fine and sort of
Starting point is 00:55:05 undeniably, you know, enthusiastic kind of sounding. So with bros though, is there a fine line? Like, is it difficult to walk that balance between like influence and like copy? Like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, is it difficult to be like like, this is in the spirit of that jam I dig as opposed to this is kind of a carbon copy of that jam I dig? I think, I mean,
Starting point is 00:55:32 there's all kinds of great quotes about classical composers. Like, was it Beethoven who said that the good composers borrow and the great composers steal? You know, sort of like an old chestnut of a phrase. That's a good line for thieves. Yeah, exactly. I always thought it was a good idea to sort of try and emulate the stuff you admire as much as possible and where you fail is where the natural stylistic changes occur
Starting point is 00:55:54 like i can't sound like dom salvador when i play piano i'm not a super funky brazilian pianist but like i can kind of use that as a launching point and where wherever i wind up is kind of the style that i'll wind up you know like we're still white guys from the suburbs of saskatchewan over here too so yeah and it's like it's using uh we you know we borrow liberally from various sources but we it's not like we're just taking from we're not just trying to do a copy of a song and we're taking from all kinds of stuff and mashing it together and we have i think we have a pretty good two man approach. We're all come in and be like, Hey, I want to do a song. It's a straight up Donny Hathaway rip and Ewan will take it and run in a
Starting point is 00:56:32 completely different direction. And then we wind up with a nice happy medium that's a sort of a different, a fresh take of something, which is, you know, what's great about having a co-writing partner. Well, and before I get to Ewan's penultimate jam, how fulfilling... Good use of penultimate, by the way. I always say it as often as I can.
Starting point is 00:56:51 I'm curious, like, how fulfilling is it to have these two outlets? Like, that you have these kind of, depending on the type of jam that's inside you trying to leak out, you got the sheepdogs, right? And I'm going to guess sheepdogs pays the rent. Like, I mean, that's just me guessing here. It's the name people know for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Yeah. You know, and then you still have this creative outlet for these types of jams that you and your brother can cook up. Like that's got to be, I would think that would be spiritually fulfilling. Absolutely. Absolutely. And to have the luxury to have a project like this
Starting point is 00:57:23 that we can work at kind of on our own schedule, but also to sort of veer off in any stylistic direction that we want to go to is very liberating and very wonderful. And bros, again, this is me talking. What do I know? But I'm guessing because it's this creative outlet and it's so fulfilling, it doesn't actually need to make you,
Starting point is 00:57:42 it doesn't need to feed you. Like it doesn't need, I don like it doesn't need i don't know that's me i'm i don't have a clue what you guys make wouldn't hurt if it made some money but i'm thinking it can exist for other purposes and then sheepdogs can uh make you money yeah i mean well even the sheepdogs we don't necessarily like tailor everything to be commercially viable but it's it's uh we make music cause we love it. And especially with bros, it's, it's like following, I mean, some of the music we made on this last record is like really out there and it's fun to like see people's reactions. Cause you know, especially
Starting point is 00:58:16 if they know us from the sheepdogs, which is very much, you know, a guitar rock band, like they're like really taken way out of their comfort zone. And it's really cool because we love all kinds of different music. No, no doubt. And I love that all your shit sounds like it's all kind of coming out of the 70s. It's like I'm in some kind of a time machine and it's just different vibes. Look, there's a golden era of music. Like there's golden...
Starting point is 00:58:40 1968 to 1973. I would say sort of the 50s, late 50s through the later 70s is really strong, depending on the genre. But people want to just follow the new trend. That's okay. But we talk about things like mid-century modern or art deco and these types of trends. There's a reason that we still pursue those.
Starting point is 00:59:04 It's because the things that were put out at a time were just a superior quality. And that's what we think about that era of music. It just, it's going to endure. And you, would you like me to play your penultimate jam now? Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Oh, is this what I picked? Well, did I screw up? Yeah, I don't know. This is not... Oh, it's supposed to be a different version. Oh, well, we can fix that.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Hold on here. So I just get the names, and I think this one... It's the right song, but wrong version. Oh, we got to fix that. That's not accepted. I'm going to go to YouTube then. This is very, very crunchy and dissonant, though. Yeah, I was like, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:59:43 Ewan Love's very dissonant. Arnold Schoenberg, I believe. Stand by. We're going to fix this. I was due to make a big mistake. Ugh. I hate this. All right, we're going to kill this.
Starting point is 00:59:58 This was a big mistake. I'll take the hitters. I think I stuck it into YouTube. Okay, so what am I looking for? You're looking for Bobby Valentin, and it's Coco Seiko. Let's see here. Oh, yeah. Here you go.
Starting point is 01:00:14 There it is. Turn it up. Yes. My apologies. No problem. I was playing this in the baseball diamond yesterday. Me adivina y me lo adivina pronto Por donde mi caserita Es que le entre el agua el coco Coco, coco, coco seco Coco, coco, coco seco
Starting point is 01:00:58 Unos dicen por arriba Otros dicen por abajo Pero la verdad señores Es que yo no sé tampoco Some say it from above, others say it from below But the truth, gentlemen, is that I don't know either deconstruction of that song. Tell me why you chose this jam. It just kicks, man. It's just, you know, it's kind of a big band sort of power. Suave as can be. A lot of life, a lot of color,
Starting point is 01:01:36 a lot of, you know, it's just, it feels good. Like, I mean, I love immediacy of music. Like when it hits your ears. Like I always compare music to food. You know, everything that you want to break down you can over intellectualize it but food is great because it's like you put in your mouth does it taste good and music you put in your ears does it make you feel good and that's what this does it's so uplifting and it's just a party so that's what i want our music to be the dynamite horn arrangement right out of the gate and like
Starting point is 01:02:03 i don't know. It's so kinetic. You just want to start moving immediately. I'm digging it, man. This would be my ideal type of music to see at Lula Lounge or something like that. And a good one for bros, too, because we both grew up playing wind instruments. And brass is such a big part of the bros sound, you know, and Latin music is just the king of amazing punchy brass lines, you know. And a little flute in there too.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Any chance your mom comes to TMLX8 on Friday from 6 to 9 p.m.? I'll put it at about a negative 0.1%. Not so good, Al. No, sorry about that. She'll check it out online, though. Now that you're giving her a shout-out, actually, I'll bump it up to 1%. Yeah, that's true. That's true. I'll take that.
Starting point is 01:03:14 So we're coming down to the finale here. Yeah. I'm just going to check out what's coming up ahead. Okay. Okay. A jam I know is coming up from Seamus. Hey, all right. All right.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I couldn't stump you five for five. I got to go review the tapes, but this is definitely a jam I know and love. So I can't wait to kick this sucker out. I will profess it by saying this is my favorite song of all time. Cocoa Stick. No. All right, let's get right to that then. Favorite song of all time. Here we go. It's a shame The way you mess around with your man It's a shame The way you hurt me
Starting point is 01:04:24 It's a shame The way you mess around with your man It's a shame The way you play with my emotions It's a shame The way you mess around with your man You're like a child at play On a sunny day Pressure play with her And then you throw it away
Starting point is 01:05:02 Why do you use me? Why do you confuse me? Why do you confuse me? How can you stay? Well done, Seamus. Ah, yes. I see. I get it now. It's called It's a Shame, and you are Seamus.
Starting point is 01:05:15 That's all part of it, yeah. Just click there, man. I'm a little slow on the uptake here, but tell us why you chose this jam. Oh, the spinners, It's a Shame, just an absolutely perfect soul song um it's gc cameron who's actually singing lead in the song who's only the lead singer of the spinners for about 20 minutes but he recorded this song uh written by stevie wonder
Starting point is 01:05:37 who i said earlier in the podcast was a big influence on me and my brother and this is a ton of him going on that little sidestep move that we just heard, very much a Stevie move. One of the greatest vocal performances of all time with his singing low and masculine, but then going up high with a high feminine falsetto and the way he bridges the gap between the two registers is just absolutely amazing. Impeccable horn arrangement, awesome bass playing. The Spinners were a great band with multiple different eras of lead singers
Starting point is 01:06:06 and lots of great hits but this was them at their absolute peak he's about to throw down a huge run brings it back with full voice the band is just red hot from here to the end of the song it's just a master class in how to produce a good soul jam.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Minnie Riperton-esque. Yeah. You know, you guys are so good at this. Like, if you ever want to come back and kick out other jams, I just like listening to you guys talk about these songs. I mean, it's pretty fun.
Starting point is 01:06:38 When you talk about the song, it gives it a whole different level. Ribbon beers and listen to music is kind of my favorite thing in the world. Any time. I'd make time for this. This is what actually, people want to know what backstage things,
Starting point is 01:06:51 this is what we do in the Sheepdogs a lot is we sit in the green room and share songs and break it down. Not like super formally, but... No, but that sounds like a Sheepdogs podcast waiting to happen. It's a very good idea. It's pretty good. It is what we love to do. That's what we good idea. It's pretty good. It is. It is what we love to do.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Yeah. That's what we do here at TMDS. Keep that in mind when you're in the negotiations. So Ewan, uh, what do you think of, uh, Seamus's favorite song of all time there?
Starting point is 01:07:15 Oh, I love it. It's a great, great song. It is. What a great song. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 01:07:20 it's, it's, it's unimpeachable. I tried to sing it at karaoke one time. As have I. Yeah. It's, uh, it's hard. Very,able. I tried to sing it at karaoke one time. As have I, yeah. It's hard. Very, very hard. It's very rangy.
Starting point is 01:07:29 He's three plus octaves. I don't know. Well, it's like when in karaoke, if you ever try to take on me by Aha, and then there's that part that just exposes you, that high note. Yeah, you need to practice it, you know? You just can't go there.
Starting point is 01:07:43 You just point the mic at the crowd. Yeah. I'm actually sad this is ending here. I'm glad it happened, but I'm practice it, you know? You just can't go there. Just point the mic at the crowd. Yeah. I'm actually sad this is ending here. I'm glad it happened, but I'm sad it's ending here. Maybe because I didn't play a lot of bro. I'm going to play a little bit of a bro song, and then I'm going to go straight into Ewan's final jam. Is that cool?
Starting point is 01:07:56 Oh, yeah, here we go. Just to hear how it fits in with what we play. Summertime anthem. Drink you know you got a smile on your face And it's just the sun Because the sun shines brighter When there's love in your heart Just a little drop of rain We had a little drop of rain
Starting point is 01:08:17 And wasn't it refreshing? And you know that it's alright to be sad It ain't all that bad And when the time passes You'll's alright to be sad It ain't all that bad And when the time passes You'll remember how to be glad When the stars come out to shine Wow. You guys make music
Starting point is 01:08:37 that perfectly fits in with everything you've just kicked out. You should be proud of yourselves. Thank you. You love to listen to music, and I think that's an important part of being a musician. Yeah, I like listening to music, too. I can't make music.
Starting point is 01:08:51 I'm not good music, anyway. So here's a fun fact from Cam Gordon. Cam, I'll see you Friday at TMLX8. Cam says that bros, not you guys, the original bros, the British bros, we'll call them the British bros, they have to change the English beat. They had to go by English beat because there was a beat.
Starting point is 01:09:08 They went by the English beat. They have to be the British bros now because there is a bros now here. But they were briefly big enough to play to 77,000 fans at Wembley. They had Debbie Gibson and Salt-N-Pepa opening for them. That's how big they were in the UK at that time. Like 77,000 people came out to see Bros at Wembley Stadium. That's pretty good. I wish Salt-N-Pepa would open for us.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Spinderella, who is their DJ, did reply to me on Twitter once. That's as close as I can. Nice. I'll see what I can do. Get us in there, man. That's the end right there. Okay, awesome. That was great too.
Starting point is 01:09:55 And that's Garbanzo Man? Garbanzo Man. Is that on Volume 2? That is on Volume 2, yeah. Available now? Available now. You can check out the music video on YouTube. Dinalone Records? I was goofing around at the cottage. Yeah, on D on volume two. Yeah. You can check out our. Available now. Available now. You check out the music video on YouTube. Dinalone Records.
Starting point is 01:10:06 Us goofing around at the cottage. Yeah. On Dinalone Records. Awesome. Here is the final jam of the day. Ewan's finale. Let's do it. Oh, yes. Don't get in too deep, brother
Starting point is 01:10:40 Don't get in too heavy Don't get so you can't move about Whenever you get ready Born free, don't see But he sees just a little too late Losing his freedom and losing his soul And all he can do is wait for the other Born down slowly, slowly
Starting point is 01:11:04 Born down holy Moses Slowly going down All right, Ewan, tell us about your jam. Yeah, this is the great Alan Toussaint going down. Alan Toussaint is like the professor of soul and funk. He passed away a few years ago. I think we were playing like breakfast television or something the morning that I heard he passed away. He was a producer in New Orleans in the 60s and 70s and onward.
Starting point is 01:11:49 But that was his heyday. He worked with everybody, like The Meters, the greatest funk band ever. That was his band that he would use to back people up. Wow. Dr. John, just a million artists, and a great artist in his own right. He's almost like a professorial type of presence he was like sort of erudite and uh wise and he didn't have a great voice but he worked the hell out of it his like modest register and this song is great because it's got like so many things
Starting point is 01:12:19 going on in it like it's very dense with all the various instruments but everything is perfectly in its place and it just works like clockwork and offbeat tambour offbeat tambourine which is the trademark and just
Starting point is 01:12:33 everything you know he sang well Lee Dorsey was another big he wrote like you know working in a coal mine and all those like
Starting point is 01:12:40 jams back in the day and was like you know he I think I don't know if he wrote it but he everything i gonna do gonna be funky whatever i think he co-wrote yeah he wrote like a million songs that you know but didn't know that he wrote i'd love to have his royalty profile yeah i hope he got that money because he deserved it and he's just a total total hero of ours yeah
Starting point is 01:13:00 just just uh absolute master pianist arrist, arranger, singer, composer. Just the king, the man. Honestly, guys, that was like the best time. We have to at some point just do volume two. You like your volume two? That's true. We'll keep going. We'll do volume one because we already did three.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Leonard's part six. Okay. And now I'm thinking, forget the Sheepdogs podcast. We'll do the Bro's podcast. There you go. We'll come back. I'll do this again.
Starting point is 01:13:34 This is fun. And remember, I got a lasagna in the freezer for you. Don't, do not leave without it. Otherwise, I'll be just eating
Starting point is 01:13:42 way too many calories because I'll have to take it down here. I'll take down a lasagna. But dude, seriously, thanks for doing this. I hope you had a good time. Thanks, Mike. We did.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Pleasure. And that brings us to the end of our 906th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. You guys are at Bros Making Music. Bros Making on Twitter. Yeah'm at Toronto Mike. You guys are at Bros Making Music. Bros Making on Twitter. Yeah, just search for the... I can't remember. It's different names, but we're bros
Starting point is 01:14:12 and look for the guys with mustaches and beards and not the slick guys. It is Bros Making Music because I've been tweeting you all week. It's stuck in my memory here. There's that initial, like, we've got to find the right guys.
Starting point is 01:14:26 It's Bros Making Music. And go to Dine Alone Records. Go Google it and pick up the vinyl and all that good stuff. Volume 2, Bros. You heard how good it sounds. So do it, because they're good guys, too. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery,
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