Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Cam Gordon's Forgotten Cancon Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1394

Episode Date: December 19, 2023

In this 1394th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with Cam Gordon before he kicks out forgotten Cancon jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Electronic Products Recycling Association, Raymond James Canada and Moneris. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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here where I'm setting up my phone so I can actually watch the live stream as we go because I do like to see the comments as they as they roll now we're pouncing on people on a Monday evening at like 630 p.m. so I don't anticipate although Cambrio has detected you have a work shirt on.

I do. I was coming from the office, you know, kind of a business casual. You're a hardworking man. Dress code at the phone company. So yeah, it's very different than if you recall how when you'd pop by the Twitter can office.

Right. A little more casual. Do you know the last time I wore a collared shirt? Would it be my wedding? Your wedding to MF. To MF. And why was MF not at TMLX14?

Why was she not? Like, did she know what was happening? Oh, yeah. Did she say, oh, I'll pass? Yeah, she was just doing, like, errands. That hurts. Not anything specific, but, you know, it's a busy was happening? Oh, yeah. And she just said, oh, I'll pass? Yeah, she was just doing like errands. That hurts. Not anything specific.

But, you know, it's a busy, it's a festive season, Mike. Happy holidays. Happy holidays to you. Happy Hanukkah. Do you want to, Hanukkah's over, actually. I feel like you get eight nights. Belated, yeah. Speaking of Hanukkah, we were supposed to be visited by Sammy Cohn, drummer for The Watchmen, but he is such an effective real estate agent.

He literally texted us earlier today and said his clients need him nearby because the deal might close tonight. He's got a big deal. He's like, I can't go to New Toronto tonight because I got a deal to close. So Sammy will not be with us. And that means we're not going to reunite the completely ignored duo. This is the reunion that nobody was asking for. That's right. Not,

not even our immediate family, but you know, Sammy's an ABC type, always be closing, right. You know, whether it's on the, on the skins or in the real estate game.

He's drumming up results, Cam. Exactly. Anyway, we'll revisit that in 2024. We'll definitely get Sammy down here. Yeah, yeah. It's important to me to, even though nobody cares and nobody wants it,

I want to reunite the completely ignored duo of Sammy Cohn and Cam Gordon, and I want to do it in person. Zoom is not enough. Yeah, you know what I learned there's all there's actually another famous um canadian cancon drummer who's quite a successful real estate agent oh really yeah do you want to actually i would say you you could guess but i mean there's a lot of drummers out there um so johnny faye closing the deal no it's actually uh steve o from some 41 i had no idea so there's some uh

some parallel skill sets involved when you're drumming up results uh you know at a concert or drumming up results for your valued clients so sammy i just want to say this sammy listen to my voice because i know you're listening i would love to have you back in the basement. Cam, do you see how I have this Brian Linehan picture on proud display here? I do, of course. That's because last time Sammy was in the basement, he gifted me that, and it's got a prominent spot.

What did you say there was a lot of, what did you call it? Brick-a-brack. Yeah, there's a lot of brick-a-brack. And that's got a prominent spot, including Stu Stone's wrestler. Have you heard from Stu lately? Not specifically.

I'm on a couple of like group threads with him. So he's sort of in the mix. He surfaces, you know, fairly often, but we're mainly just talking about sports or pro wrestling or whatever. But yeah, I'm not sure if he's in Toronto right now. I feel like he's here. He told me explicitly, Mike, I can't co-host TMLX 14

because that was going to be a Pandemic Friday reunion. He says, I can't because I'm in California, possibly working on a project with Michael Rapoport. Yes, yes. I remember you mentioned this, which is huge. And I don't even know if that was like public or not. I said it now on the record, so I can't take it away. But that's a thing that we talked about.

Stu, when business calls, be it in California or Mississippi, wherever it is, Winnipeg, Stu goes. And that's a big deal. Michael Rappaport has been in the game for a long time. Sure. School ties. He's in a lot of Spike Lee movies. Was he in School for a long time. Sure. School Ties. You know a lot of Spike Lee movies? Was he in School Ties?

Brendan Fraser was in School Ties. Yeah, I think he was like the Nazi or the white supremacist. He got radicalized on a university campus. Very, very sort of ahead of its time. Yeah, because the Brendan Fraser character was Jewish, right? That's right. Yeah, yeah. I recall.

And that was Upper Canada College. I think so. Was it like they filmed it? Sure. I think so. Was it like they filmed it? Sure. I think so. Like that was a Brendan Fraser. Like he was in, he was a Canadian at that point.

You're Canadian. He had a connection here. Okay. Let's crack our beers on the mic. Okay. What do you got there? You got a octopus. I've got the octopus wants to fight.

Okay. I actually did it. Like I always fuck that up. Cheers. Thank you. Happy holidays. Great to see an FOTM Hall of Famer like you. And one day I will not only reunite the completely ignored duo of you and Sammy,

but I will one day reunite the Pandemic Friday trio of which I am a part, but eventually we'll get Stu and you back on the mic when he's in Canada. Just have to wait for the next pandemic, whether it's like bird flu or I don't know. What sort of, what are we hearing about sort of bubbling under these days? Mad cow disease? Yeah. That's always around. Huffing mouth disease. So keep your fingers crossed.

Won't be long the way we're heading this planet. Keep your fingers crossed. Hey, thank you so much, Cam. We're going to get to jams very quickly because we have like a bonus section where we're going to talk about some recent episodes and I'm going to listen to you. I'm very interested in this. And then we're going to kick out

10 Forgotten CanCon jams. But I want to thank you for co-hosting TMLX14 with me. What a pleasure. That was a great time. And I apologize again for getting you sick right before the Junk House concert because I think you and I were

still both on the tail end of whatever that I never told the story publicly because I didn't know if I should disclose this because it's your personal health information. Oh no, that's okay. So you and I were going to Junkhouse together and we were in the bar enjoying a Great Lakes beer as we are right now, but we're in the bar. I had a great time. And then we

get in there and it's kind of a it's not like art bergman okay it's a full house art was like art was like i don't know 30 full yeah this was packed and it was hot and a bunch of like sweaty dudes and you said to me i think you said something like i think i'm gonna pass out i'm gonna leave now and then i'm like i'm something get out of here yeah and i i think that was like 9 10 and and we were going to go in at like 9.30 or something. Yeah, see, this has happened twice because also I'm still really miffed. And we're going to be talking about this in a second.

But you so kindly invited me to the gala opening of the Much Music documentary. And I was sick then as well. You've been sick lately. Yeah, so that's like twice this fall. And I've noticed lately that you look like you're losing weight, but then I wonder, maybe you never had the weight. You've always been a thin Lizzy.

The boys are back in town. I would say I've been biking a lot because I do bike to and from work every day. It's not a long ride. I mean, it's not sort of your general three to four hour bike ride. I don't judge. Okay. You know, it's like 20 minutes each way.

That's good. 40 minutes a day. Good for you. Do you eat? Like, did you eat any Palma pasta at TMLX 14? I grabbed a sandwich on the way home. Like, if I gave you a large lasagna, would you and MF eat it? Oh, a thousand percent.

I would love that. I'm going to do that, okay? Thank you so much. You're not leaving here, Cam Gordon, without a large meat lasagna from Palma Pasta. Excellent. Delicious, authentic Italian food. Okay, you're drinking a beer. You can bring some home for you and MF.

She might not think highly enough of me to make an appearance at TMLX 14. Oh, it's not that. But I still care about her and want her to be well fed and to have some food. She's a fan and a listener as you know so uh don't don't take it personally um why don't we get into it before we get into these 10 10 more forgotten can't con jams i i say you listed like five uh episode rebuttals from the last year you know as we hit the end take your time on this because i thoroughly enjoy this it's a fucking great song and you know whenever I hear

we're listening to obviously Miles Davis So What. I think it's about like a 20 minute song. Am I wrong? It's like 9 minutes maybe this version. Yeah. You know when I hear the dulcet tones of Miles Davis I personally think of Bachman Turner Overdrive and you know that great

collab they did. It's actually disappointing Sam's not here because I know he had some thoughts he's a Winnipeg guy who adores Bachman Turner Overdrive in the Guess Who and I was very keen to get his thoughts on the you're talking about the recent Robert

Lawson episode of Toronto Mike this was for someone who never laughs and hates comedy and MF can back this up, I was in tears listening to this. I thought it was so fucking funny. And he seemed cool, but I like sort of the record store manager

from Cloverdale Mall slash Buddhist literally wrote a book about the guest who comes on to like fact check all this stuff that Randy Bachman said. Like what a, first of all, what a concept. And I like a lot of this. Do you want to know how it came to be?

And then I want your thoughts. Yeah, remind me how did this all come together? I'm reading, in fact, you know Jennifer Hollett. You worked with her at Twitter. Of course. Well, she's an FOTM and I'm reading The Walrus, you know Jennifer Hollett. You worked with her at Twitter. Of course. Well, she's an FOTM, and I'm reading The Walrus. Right. And there's an article by FOTM Richard Trapunsky.

Of course. Son of... Son of FOTM. Ellen Roseman. Ellen Roseman. Absolutely. Well done. Follow the money.

You know what? You're good. You're good, buddy. Okay. I'm a listener. I know. I love it when I'm talking. Not just a buddy okay i'm a listener so you know i love it not just a guest i'm see i got elvis on for festivus and it's what a waste of my time he doesn't listen to shit he doesn't know the language i'll say something like

what are you talking about like it sucks it actually said that's what sucks is when you have a guy on who doesn't know what the fuck's going on so getting back to robert lawson robert lawson i wrote him a note because it's disclosed in this article in the walrus written by fotm richard chaponski it's disclosed that there's a gentleman named robert lawson who manages the sunrise records at cloverdale mall super cool love it like i'm thinking i'm like could that be my robert lawson i'm like i didn't know my rob fotm robert lawson who came on the talk about the guess who could this be one in the same and i sent a note to robert lawson and well first i went to linkedin and confirmed it really was him sure and then i wrote a note to

robert lawson to say i had no idea you didn't even tell me that you were the manager of the sunrise at cloverdale the lead like we should talk about this. And he's like, oh, I'd love to come back. He goes, I listened to the, Robert, Robert, I listened to the Randy Backman episode of Toronto Mic'd and I was irate. I have so many things to say.

I want to fact check it. And I said, I would love that very much. I thought it was funny because Letter of the Law, a lot of the stuff Robert brought up, they weren't like hard fact checks, but i think embellishments but i think he's totally right like he didn't know for a fact that

bto didn't uh collaborate with miles davis but i agree i'm sure it never happened i mean like miles and i i love both of them they're both both great. And you heard Robert Lossie said, the only artist I know more than the Guess Who is Miles Davis. And I loved the Guess Who went to England and they're hanging out with the Beatles and the Stones and the Who and the Kinks and Herman

Sermits and Jerry and the Pacemakers and the Zombies and everybody and was it you or was it him? Is that why would four unknown guys from Winnipeg just be hanging out with the Beatles? And he said, I'm sure a lot of those bands were on tour. Yeah.

Cause I, well, I will say you hear this a lot in that, you know, where else you see this a lot in sort of the punk scene where it's like, Oh yeah, we went down to CBGBs and we were hanging out with the Ramones and Blondie and television talking.

First of all, what's that even mean, hanging out? Is that like you meet them once or you're like, you know, you're sleeping on their couch, you're going for meals. Well, like how you were hanging out with Tom Wilson last Saturday. Yeah, I wouldn't consider that hanging out. Like I was just like there. You're at the same event.

Yeah, with Steven. I did tell my dad steven brunt was there which he was very impressed by not only was steven brunt there he was early and he was first on the mic and it was on the heels of the shohei otani thing and then mike in boston's tweeting the voice i really needed to hear from after the shohei otani thing was steven brunt and i think it was steve cole who literally tweeted at him and said if you knew where to be on Saturday, you could have been hanging out with Steven fucking Brunt.

What a lineup of that guy. I think Ivor Hamilton was there and like Tom Wilson. Lauren Honigman. Lauren Honigman. Dana Levinson. Oh my God. Peter fucking Lewis. Larry Fedorek.

Larry Fedorek. It was so fun. Absolutely. Dave Charles. Absolutely. Lest we forget Mike Richards. Yeah. I was tappingest we forget Mike Richards. Yeah. I was tapping you on the back there. I'm like

I was trying not to like smirk. It's like I love all these people but like Mike Richards I do love like he's keeping the spirit of Jive alive to quote you know Neil Young. Cam okay I do need to ask you something about the fact checking

of Randy Backman because absolutely you seem to get it. Okay. I do need to ask you something about the fact-checking of Randy Backman because... Absolutely. You seem to get it, okay? Totally. I see in the comments, Midtown Gord got it. He said it was funny. He thought it was a little extra, as the kids would say. Basement Dweller is on the live chat to say the truth is important.

He's glad we're, you know, calling out some of these rock stars out on their bullshit. You know, for years, Randy Backman would tell a story about like i don't know it was the guy who was mopping up the floor somebody all right with the curling rings no this is different it was for taking care of business like some great unwashed unknown just started playing piano like i don't know if it was a homeless guy dropping by but there was right, right. But there was a story and then he stopped telling the story because too many people who were there are like,

this is real bullshit, man. Anyway, I kind of got the spirit of that Randy Backman episode and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Absolutely. And I think it was like one of those like,

this rock star said a bunch of stuff and we're going to call him out on it and no one gets heard in the process. Well, I know as a bare naked ladies

Speaker's Corner truther and we're going to get to that documentary in a second the process. I know as a bare naked ladies speaker's corner truther and we're going to get to that documentary in a second. You know, you spit facts down here in the basement. You don't suffer fools. Pizza guy. Thank you. I couldn't remember the story. Midtown Gourd reminds me. A pizza guy shows up

while they're recording Taking Care of Business. The pizza guy jumps on the keyboards and bangs out this fucking part that's got like marinara sauce all over his fingers like it wasn't even tickling the ivories palma pasta pizza boom boom boom and this is like fiction pure fiction but you know randy told this story like it was gospel it's a good yarn but there are people i'm getting comments from people especially a few different people on TorontoMike.com, are something to the effect of, like, why did you go at this poor guy for a little lighthearted embellishment? Like, how do you expect any other rock stars to come on Toronto Mike when you're going to do this to them?

And it kind of blindsided me because I guess like either they don't get the tone or they don't understand the spirit in which it was intended, but no one was hurt in this process. Like, this is really like just, you know, the fact that these winnipeggers weren't going to be drafted into vietnam while they're toward the u.s oh my god yes that oh my god that might have been the funniest i like lawson just like you know i don't know how conscription works in the u.s it's like he's probably right Probably not just going to drop people who aren't even American citizens to go fight a NAM.

I will say like kidding aside, an interesting point he did bring up was Randy Bachman playing his own music on the public broadcast during getting royalties out of that. I thought that was actually very interesting. So I have a note. Can I read a note from Basement Dweller?

Absolutely. I said, Basement, put this on the comments because I needed some positive comments. He goes, Not sure why you have more than a few listeners, blog followers, who are sorely lacking a sense of humor.

Once again, Backman deserved to be called out multiple times. Number one, yes, he is 80 years old, but he never had the typical vices of the rock era, the road, just food, at least until he had the excess far surgically removed. LOL. That is a bit rude.

But yeah. So his BSing can't be blamed on that. Not at all. Plus, his mediocre show was pulled by two different radio network regimes due to his constant defiant musical self-promotion and overemphasis on his limited influence on rock outside of Canada. I'm going to rebut that in a minute. I beg to differ.

I beg to differ because I watch The Simpsons and every second episode I hear now has taken care of business on it. Okay. No need to apologize or make excuses for a good episode whatsoever. I just want to say, I actually respect the fuck out of Randy Backman

and think his work with The Guess Who and BTO is unbelievable. He's represented this country very well on the global stage with big global hits and I want, you know, I wish no harm to the great Randy Backman, but when an FOTM writes me, an FOTM who knows what he's talking about says

I'd like the fact check that episode, I simply can't say no to that. I just can't. Absolutely, and I feel the exact same way. I probably respect him about as much before, but seriously, how many people have two bands at that? Like BTO was fucking huge in the 70s.

And two bands like the, what, Damon Albarn. I'm trying to think other people like, there you go. This is a deeper, you know, there's like bigger jams in this.

You ain't you ain't seen nothing yet and taking care of business like a trucker classic oh my god i feel like i'm listening to q107 right now it's those riffs man you know backman turner oh and i love the chat about will fred turner be a part of the new bto one other comment about bto and i i think they deserve credit because these guys were uh i'll just say they weren't matinee idols and photo shoots and i thought that's very refreshing these are like you know bigger gentlemen but they're just out there they're fucking rocking yeah and they're great songs okay so you and i agree cam gordon That was a great episode of Tron away.

I loved it. And I can't wait for him to come back. Maybe get like Tal Bachman. Although he might be mad at me when he catches wind of my assassination of his father's character. I hope he gets it. I hope he understands. Anyway, Robert Lawson, great job. Loved it.

Fun listen. And now we go to Isa. Isa. Isa. Isa. Jane Sibri. It's a great song. Thank you. Here, oh yeah, here is sky All the sky is blue All the blue is years ago Now

A basket of apples You could kick this out as a forgotten CanCon jam. A basket of apples I'm going to still like a Bill Simmons line, but he likes to talk about like actors or musicians or athletes where they like market correct someone and they sort of impact someone's career. I was thinking about this the other day because Sarah McLachlan is going on tour next summer for the anniversary of Fumbling Towards Ecstasy. MF is going to be attending that one.

It'll be a great show. But I feel like Jane Zibri kind of got market corrected by Sarah McLachlan. Kind of the similar ethereal style, that one it'll be a great show but i feel like jane sippery kind of got market corrected by sarah mclaughlin kind of the similar ethereal style but i feel like sarah was a lot more palatable for the mainstream because uh jane has some great songs but she's pretty like she's an artist as you found out firsthand uh back in was it july she was on for manitou you haven't been on since that episode or you just had you didn't talk I can't when were you last I it was after that episode because I think it came

up but on the live stream and Leslie says that she likes this song better than Mimi on the beach I totally agree this this is a fucking great song I love this song also Midtown Gord I'm just gonna little mop up and then I want to hear what you have to say about Jane Sibri but

Midtown Gord saw BTO open for Sammy Hagar's Van Halen. The Red Rocker. They were old then, he says. Absolutely. And speaking of people coming to the amphitheater next, or sorry, Budweiser stage, I think it's like Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony and The Sun. Wow. Yeah. I actually kind of want to go see that.

Wolfgang Van Giedu. That'd be fun. Well, let's go together. Yeah, I actually kind of want to go see that. Wolfgang Van Giedew? That'd be fun. Well, let's go together. And of course, Basement Dwellers says a legend, and Randy will be the first to tell you so.

That was when we were talking about how much we like Randy Backman. You can back it up. Bawk it up. And hello again. I want to say hello to VP No Sales, who is with us, and Canada Kev, and Hey Ref. And we already mentioned Basement Dweller, but what do you say,

what wish you to say, oh, sounds a bit like Life in a Northern Town, Canada Kev says. Sure, yeah, Dream Academy. Life in a Northern Town, hey. By the way, speaking of people who have faded from the culture, Michelle Bachman. Did we ever hear about her anymore? What's she up to? The tea party?

Right. I feel like she was a truther of some sort. Yeah, I don't have an update on her. I do remember her during that tea party heyday there. Yeah. And not the band either. What say you about Issa? Obviously, the most memorable part, and I think you'd agree,

was the now legendary Alexiak no-sell. I feel like that's become part of the Toronto Mike lexicon. One of my favorite moments in Toronto Mike history. Just totally could not give a shit that the most decorated athlete in Canadian Olympic history, her dad directed the video. She could not care less. She was sports pasha.

By the way, was that her place? Was that a fake background? No, no, no, no, no. Okay, not a fake background, but she was Airbnb-ing a place on Manitoulin Island. That place looks gorgeous. I would love a tour. Yeah, she doesn't own it. She was clear to tell me that. She does not own it, but she was hanging out there. I guess she got it on Airbnb, and she

was living there for a bit. Lovely. She seemed to be very at peace and happy, and I'm very glad I did that Zoom with Jane Silver. Absolutely. That was a fun lesson. Yeah, I don't know. She's had a very interesting

career. Does she still tour or play shows? I feel like she pops up every now and then at like Hughes Room or something. I'm sure she does. I don't know, but I do know she's on my radar now because she's now a valued FOTM. I'm sure she does. Like, I don't know, but I do know she's on my radar now because she's a, now a valued FOTM. I'd go see her. Uh,

speaking of things that were added to the Toronto Mike lexicon, uh, here's a man. If it wasn't for, uh, Rust Belt town, we'd never heard of. According to Michael Williams and Mike,

what's play that drop. There you go to Michael Williams. Mike, play that drop. No Cleveland, no Bowie. There you go. Michael Williams, no Cleveland, no Bowie. Mike, you sort of litigated this, how for years you wanted Michael Williams to come on, and then he finally came on, and then it was, what, twice in like 10 days? And he's like, yeah, I'll be back tomorrow.

And I said, well, let's give it a couple weeks here. And I just thought, yeah, we watched the back tomorrow. And I said, well, let's give it a couple of weeks here. And we watched the documentary together. And then we talked about it. And we'll play a jam related to the 299 Queen Street West documentary in a moment. But yeah, now he's a bud now. Yeah. And no Cleveland, no Bowie is incredible. There's so many variations you can do of this,

but that actually, in my opinion, was not the funniest part of that episode. The funniest part is when he couldn't remember if he performed at the Super Bowl halftime show with Up With People. It's like, really? You don't know? We got to get Robert Lawson to, you know,

break down that episode. Absolutely. Because you wouldn't forget a thing to get uh robert lawson to you know break down that episode absolutely because you wouldn't forget a thing like that right but oh my god like what the talk about a guy who's been there like this guy is legit i love both his um appearances and his second one was wild because the range of music he played you know i I listened to a lot of episodes and, you know, we hear a lot of Tragically Hip and the Smashing Pumpkins. I'm playing it half the time. But the jams that Michael Williams brought in that second episode were just so all over the map. Like, I loved it. You got hip hop, you got jazz, you got punk, you got new wave, a bit of everything.

Like, God, what a great spirit. I love Michael Williams. And it was so great to see him just out and about with this uh this much music documentary and getting his his stew yeah he went on like a little tour absolutely okay yeah he deserves all this uh all this love you know he's uh he's an og yeah but again no cleveland no bowie so one of the key key fun facts we learned this year well here let's give it proper. I think it was low in the mix there. No Cleveland, no Bowie.

And that voice, oh my God. Still got it. All right, loving this so much, by the way, before we even get to our 10. And it was on Chome. Who was there? Steve Anthony was there. Oh my God, I had to say what?

Who is this? You sent me these songs would you say fergie oliver and this is of course uh fergie no i in there yeah for fergie oliver fergie from uh black eyed peas of course and and not to be mistaken with fergie oliver for former voice of the Blue Jays. Did you ever think you were going to get Fergie Oliver? Okay, I didn't. I never even dreamed I could get Fergie Oliver but then I struck up a very lovely relationship with his daughter and she

kind of talked, she talked a big game about she'll talk to her dad. Absolutely. And she wanted you know for over a decade uh it's been kind of like he's been avoiding any kind of spotlight like any microphone uh because of the uh youtube video that we've all seen i know time by the way of all the episodes i did in 2023 i'm still getting notes from people like oh i got a couple of instagram notes just last week about how dare i

have a that pedophile on the program like i'm still come on i'm still i'm telling you cam i'm just telling you the truth okay you can no i'm not i'm not saying you're not but like people are like right that's absurd i'm so sorry like this is a man's like you could you could tell it i know we like joke a lot about it but but he was clearly incredibly affected by this shitty YouTube video, this super cut. And I think that's why his daughter, who of course loves him very much, really wanted him to come on in and just talk about everything. And I said, I was very clear to Carrie, I'm like, I would love to have Fergie Oliver on the show, but I'm not going to pull any punches. I'm going to ask him about the video the show, but I'm not, you know, I'm not going to pull any punches. Like, like we are, I'm going to ask him about the video and we're going to talk about the video.

And she knew that going in and she talked to her dad and he didn't want to do it, but she trusted he's, he gets, I guess the fact that I had, I had her on the show and her son, I don't think he went on the mic, but there were three generations. I didn't even know the son was there.

Who's the son? Well, Carrie's got a son. Okay. I'm going to guess he's like 25 to 30 years old or something. What? I don't know. Carrie Oliver's probably mid-50s and she must have had a kid in her early 20s or something. I don't know how that works. She's my

co-worker, too. Right. That's a different story. Remember when Fergie went off on the statue at the dome? Absolutely. It was quite the moment. She's like, I'm right here. We'll get into that today. Okay, so I'm glad I had Fergie Oliver on the show, and I think that's one of the great moments in Toronto Mike's history.

Well, not to be too morbid like Ridley Funeral Home, but this quite possibly will probably be the last interview he ever does, certainly the last long-form interview, given he's, you know, he likes to keep a low profile, and I don't blame him. But that episode was awesome. So many, like, great stories from back in the day and stuff you didn't hear. It actually reminded me kind of

of when you had Bob Elliot and Dave Perkins. I've told you how fond I am of that episode. It was on this day in 2019. On this day. Yeah, just all those awesome old J stories. by the way mf is on the live stream very good mf i'm sending your husband home with a lasagna absolutely lakes beer okay yeah we're gonna be heroes at uh the christmas dinner table where we'll bring it out to what time should i be there uh six six well i think you might we might see you this weekend

we're having the open house Maybe we'll serve it then. Did I get an invite? Yeah. I sent it to you a few weeks ago. There's a little graphic. There's a Christmas tree on it. Canada Kev reminds us of that great line by Fergie Oliver in his episode. The sea heard...

No. It was about the statue. You're goddamn right. Because I said we should tear that fucking statue down of Ted Rogers. And he said, you're goddamn right. Yeah. Well, yeah, I have thoughts. Let's move on from that. Oh, I have one more song before we get to the songs.

I love this pregame show here. Yeah, this is fun. We could do. What's that you say? I knew you went. You don't know.

I actually feel like you hear this band on the mic a sneaky amount like people like this. This is

history books. I'm not sure we've ever played this band on Toronto. Like the podcast you listen to seems like a

Dave Hodge listening to Toronto Legends. Am I Mike Goff? Like Iodge band. Maybe you're listening to Toronto Legends. Did my mic go off? Like I'm serious. I think it's okay. Okay. It's okay.

This seems like a Dave Hodge band, like Gaslight Anthem. I don't think Dave Hodge has ever kicked this band out. No? But I have to go ask Tyler Campbell. So this is the Gaslight Anthem. Yeah. And I chose this band in celebration of, oh my God, a black hunter named Catherine McClellan.

Catherine McClenahan. McClenahan, who she- Who was married to Patrick Starr. Absolutely, and once dated, I was going to say Brian Farberman. Well, she was married to Gene Volaitis and Paul Farberman, who now manages Snow. Absolutely.

Anyway, I bring up the Gaslight Anthem because after the Much music documentary, 299 Queen West, it was interesting to see all the Much music personalities who were not in it, what their reactions. I know Craig Helkett was on Facebook and I think he did like a pivot at some point. The thing about Craig though,

he was all over this documentary like modern day craig helcate talking over a lot of stuff so i never understood because he was on kim clark champness is the guy who should be angry he was erased from this documentary as catherine mcclanahan was which is what you're referring to yeah but no craig helcate his voiceover is heard for i don't't know, 10 minutes, 15 minutes. He's got a prominent role. Yeah. Well, anyway, how would that have the Gaslight anthem ties in?

Because Catherine McLennan put on, I think on multiple social media platforms. I'll just say she was pretty disappointed she wasn't as the first female VJ ever in that. She said she was gaslit by her exclusion. She came on Toronto Mike to explain it, but she had some cool stories too. Like I liked her vibe too. Oh yeah, she was well-spoken, presented her case.

I don't know if I agree that she was gaslit, but she was absolutely erased. And I like Erica M. very much. It turns out I bumped into her like three times in like a week. We kept bumping into each other. And we get along fine. She's been on the program. But the way she spoke about how

they were looking for a female VJ and they didn't realize she was already in the building, working reception. It really did insinuate. At first, I was like, oh, they never said that. Do we need to get Robert Lawson down here? But Catherine convinced me that it's inferred. So I actually now think it's inferred.

Even though it's not explicitly stated. It would have been nice to have a little line about Catherine McClanahan being the first DJ. Like a tip of the hat. Yeah, some kind of. It's just hard. I mean, it...

Pop a video. Also, the fella who put this together I mean he's like in his 30s so like Sean Menard is definitely in his 30s and not even late 30s like he's probably early 30s so like he wasn't watching live because he wasn't alive for a lot of this look I have never seen Catherine McClanahan on much

music I am almost 50 years old Cam also big big revelation that she was in Tane, too. Yes, because of Faberman. I still have Faberman. Faberman. Yeah.

No relation to DJ Faberman. Oh, yeah. Is he the clown? Is that Seinfeld? No. Who's the clown? Doodoo the Clown. Isn't that a Faberman?

He's a Faberman. Faberman. He's related to DJ Farbsy. Okay. And that's a cousin of Stewstone. His cousin is Stewstone, yeah. Okay. Is that the same last name as the guy who got Catherine McClanahan into tears? Totally.

Farberman, yeah. And there was a guy in Seinfeld. I feel like he sold raincoats, like the executive. Yeah. No, I remember. I'm trying to remember his name. It'll come to me in a minute. Do you remember Do you remember? Do you remember the time michael jackson okay uh that's that's a that's a whack song not a great song you know what nothing matters i feel like we need to get to these can

cons whatever go down a route and i'm like don't go down that road but anyway catherine mckellen no punches she pulled a great great episode did you, did we ever discuss and get to the bottom of why Rick Emmett is not on Tears Are Not Enough? Like, is that something we've done in the history of Toronto Mike? There was an FOTM who said they saw it on a Facebook page or a Reddit. Okay, well, that's different. Like, the thing is, I think on Thursday, I'm going to have a conversation with Rick Emmett from Triumph.

And I can, just like with Randy Backman, we had that moment where, were you invited to be on Tears Are Not Enough? And he's like, no. Because he was having a fight with Bruce Allen over BTO. Can we take that at face value? You know, we need a Robert Lawson on that. Like, I just, I don't know.

Rick Emmett, it's a total guess. Like, you might see my friend, Rosie Gray my, my friend, uh, Rosie gray to, um, who does a great job. Yeah. Who did some Sloan updates on the weekend as you saw. Um, that was a great episode too.

You know what? Thank you. Chris Murphy right there. Steven page right there. And I got a little heat for playing the Joe Louis clip, but I felt, uh, I'm getting,

I don't know. Am I supposed to be the extended publicist for Canadian rock stars? Just, you know what? No. Is that my role in this? Cause I don't want am I supposed to be the extended publicist for Canadian rock stars no you're not you know what no is that my role in this because I don't want that role absolutely not a listener who comes to TMLX events tells me he hates the cover of Bruce Colburn's

Lovers in a Dangerous Time I would like to feel comfortable to play that for the guy who does lead vocals on the song and get his opinion like I I can do that, right, Cam? Yeah, absolutely. And I thought Stephen Page took it well. Like he didn't take it. He cried, but you know, he got over it.

And then Chance came and I went and kicked ass at, they were great. I need to go to the opera show when they're playing. You want to go with me? Anyway, my prediction, Rick Emmett. Yeah. I know. I could corroborate this. Maybe, I bet they're just on tour and he wasn't available.

Okay, well, that's a good prediction. Because they were touring a lot in the 80s. But there was a little theory. So Rick Emmett ghosted me on Friday. And there was a couple people, including, I think, YYZ Gord, who may or may not have had his tongue in his cheek, who thought maybe the word is out that you come on Toronto Mic'd and I fact-checked the shit out of you and make you look stupid.

Go full Daniel Dale. And he ghosted me. Okay, I'm going to get to that first of your 10 forgotten CanCon jams, but I just want you to know, Cam, this is the one I think I'm most disappointed in because to me, I don't think anyone listening will have

forgotten this CanCon jam. I'm not saying forget this hard rock song. I'm just saying we don't hear this song anymore. But I don't hear anything anymore. So that's telling. I thought it was like last time there were so many songs I literally did not know existed. Well, considering you're so obsessed with like radio person,

maybe you can listen to the radio. Have you heard Mark Nathan on Toronto Mic? It's a half an hour. It was a mic. Is this the Con Can? Yes. No, it's on my queue. No, it's Con Can.

I fuck that up every fucking time. He managed John James. John James. Do you know the name John James? Oh my God. I was the one who introduced you to John James. Right. In the last Forgotten Can Cons episode.

He eventually joined Con Can, I believe. Well, I have Mr. Con Can in the calendar. His name is Barry Harris. He is Con Can. He's going to be on Toronto Mic'd. And guess who else will be on Toronto Mic'd in January? That was somebody we talked about in the Mark Nathan episode. Marin fucking Cadell.

Oh my God, the sweater. In person, in the basement. He's coming for the lasagna and beer, and we're going to have a great chat about all things Marin Cadell. CFNY classic and... The sweater song. What's better? That sweater song or Weezer's sweater song?

They're both great in different ways. They are both great, actually. Absolutely. Anyway, play this Canadian metal classic and let's kick off 10 more forgotten... What are you calling it? A metal classic? Yeah.

It's a swerve. Okay. I set your face cloud over like a little absolutely you can forget this though absolutely baby tell me what's on your mind i don't care what people say about the two of us from different worlds I love you so much that it hurts inside Are you listening? Please listen to me, girl

Can we try just a little bit harder? Can we give just a little bit more? This is a duet, Cam. Don't leave me hanging. Absolutely. So, of course, this is leading off 10 forgotten CanCon jams. And you're right. This was a huge song.

I'm just saying we don't... I think when people think of Dan Hill, automatically... This is the second song you think of when you think of Dan Hill. This is the second one. This was a smash. Yeah, it was a smash it's not somewhere sometimes when we touch no but this is this i would say if you go dan hill named dan hill this is your second one absolutely this was all

over 680 cfdr i remember this specifically uh this was a top 10 hit in the u.s went to number six on the billboard chart only went to number 14 in Canada, which is kind of interesting. Do you know the female vocalist? I do, because I watched a little show called... Calista Flockhart starred in it. Which show did Calista Flockhart star in? Ally McBeal. Ally McBeal.

She did the theme song, Ally McBeal. That's right. Vonda Shepard. This is a great song, of course. Dan Hill was also a featured vocalist on Tane. Right between Joni Mitchell and Neil Young. I said it's in the Lucky Pierre position. If you know what that, you can look up the Urban Dictionary what that means.

How did you get, because Dan Hill is so private private and he's obviously had a lot of stuff in his life quite famously so I can totally understand it how did you get him on the show is this like an Eric Alper no no no no this was a songwriter circle that was that Blair Packham participated in

Blair is an unsung hero future FOTM Hall of Famer because he meets people like Dan Hill at these songwriter circles and he goes up to them and goes, Mr. Hill, I'm a big fan. I'm Blair Packham and I love Toronto Mike and you should do Toronto Mike. That's the sentence he said. He's always recruiting. He's the reason Jane

Sibury, he hooked me up with Jane Sibury. These are not easy gets. Bob Wiseman was in the basement for 60 fucking minutes because Blair Packham said, hey Bob, you should do Toronto Mike. Absolutely. Like the eccentric Bob Wiseman. Toronto. But these are like big games. Kurt Swinghammer,

Robert Priest. Absolutely. One more fun fact about Dan Hill. He was a lifelong friend of Paul Corrington. Who passed away. Absolutely. So was it his brother was

the one who wrote whale music. Yep. Later a major motion picture by Canadian Reostatics did the music for it. Right. But the late Paul Corrington right before he did or died. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Right.

Dan Hill and Paul Corrington put together a song called Are You Ready? Completed just 10 days before his death in early 2010. Later featured in a music document or a TV documentary, Paul Corrington, Life in Music. I'm glad you brought him up.

I think I totally butchered because there was brothers like Paul Corrington and then there was the other brother who did like sort of jazz music, the Corringtons. I feel better just reading the comments on live.tronomike.com. What are people saying? I've lost the live stream. Okay.

Well, Midtown Gord says, and because I take it all very seriously. So when I get a couple of pieces of criticism that I was too hard on Randy Backman or I was mean to Steven Page, like I'm like, I love Steven Page too hard on Randy Backman or I was mean to Stephen Page. I'm like, I love Stephen Page. I love Randy Backman. I don't want to be the guy. It's tough love. I don't want to be a dick to these artists that I

respect and enjoy, but I see that Midtown Gourd thinks that playing the Joe Louie clip was fair game and then I feel better. I'm not alone. I haven't gone into this. I mean, we just finished talking about the Fergie

Oliver episode. You literally said, hey, Fergie, are you... Like you asked a question that's been on the lips. Right. I said, I think I worded it differently. I would have worded it like this. People see that video, Fergie, and think you're a pedophile. What do you say to those people he knew

I was coming but again you ask the questions that's when the cocksucker reference came out yeah I mean that that like I know like we've sort of joked about it but like that really was cathartic listening to that like you can tell he'd been sitting with that um for years and then you know had not been on a hot mic and and he did it right down here in the basement with his daughter by his side like that's like this is real stuff like we grew up with that guy mike i grew up with fergie over absolutely like what just no bob willett was on uh just like dad like a special episode of just wise blood we think we've seen the photo too, but he denies it. I think

he's like come clean on that. Has he not? No, he hasn't and it looks just like him. He's got the glasses and he's got the mark of a C. He seems like he won 10 pounds of flour. You know, we need Robert Lawson to talk about, you know, Mark Weisblot's claim. Who's the producer that you've had on?

Paul Burford. Remember, I had the special message from a good FOTM, Tim Herron, who was with you at the dinner just before we went to see Bandits the night that you got musked. That's right. Yeah. There's the photo of me foggy in the background. You were not yourself that night, but you're rarely yourself. This is weird.

I actually almost went to that bar the other day because i i had um a beverage with the former twitter co-worker and we were gonna go to um god this is so not interesting like grace o'malley's on duncan it was too busy and it's like oh let's go over here and i'm like oh my god i was just here the day before yeah i lost my job okay so tim heron had a special it was the very end of TMLX14 that I read it on the mic. So if people bailed quickly, they would have missed it. But he had a message for FOTMs that Paul Burford spent some time

very sick in the hospital. I heard that. And then Paul came out of the hospital and he's on his way to recovery. Like he's got a long road ahead of him, but he's on the way. And I think it goes without saying, Paul Burford should know,

all FOTMs are rooting for that man who created just like mom. Absolutely. I feel like he came to one of the Toronto Mike Lister. Absolutely. At the Great Lakes. I remember that. He wore the sweatshirt I think. He wore the just like mom sweatshirt. And his son,

lest we forget, is broccoli from Sunshine and Broccoli. That's right. And just to blow some fucking minds before I kick out the second forgotten CanCon jam, even though the first one wasn't forgotten at all. I believe Sunshine from Sunshine and Broccoli is Mark Weisblot's

cousin. Whoa. I remember that duo famously. Stew Stone, congratulate them on their Juno win. It was Splashin' Boots. It was Splashin' Boots. That is wild. And was splashing boots. It was splashing boots. That is wild. And I do have a,

it's cool to be kind sweatshirt somewhere. I should dig it up and wear it for the next episode. Like Nick, Nick Lowe is issuing. Yes. Right. We just kicked that out. Actually,

that's a great song. Do you know cam Gordon that tomorrow afternoon, Cynthia Dale will be sitting in that seat drinking great lakes and kicking out jams with me speaking of favor you're gonna ask like we did that the first time but mommy what are remember i surprised her by having stew zoom in absolutely that was a moment it was your son you know it might have been the opposite actually i think it was a pandemic friday. I had Cynthia Dale surprise Stu. I feel like you almost need like the Urban Dictionary FOTM edition

to put like mommy, what are, da, da, da. What's an orgy? Exactly. It's amazingly, we heard this band a different song by theirs on Pandemic Fridays. It's a feel-good jam. sung by theirs on Pandemic Fridays. Does that feel good, Jim? You gotta get down to it You gotta put your mind to it If you can't get it, run it, go through it Get what you want

You gotta get down to it You gotta put your mind to it If you can't get it, run it, go through it Get what you want Got my homie on his feet Looking so mad All right, so you know, I'm always going to be honest with you.

So I kind of laughed at that first jam because I thought it was too well known to be a Forgotten Kangaroo. We got it out of the way early. So this second one you're kicking out, I don't remember it at all, but I just think it sounds so terrible, but I would have just rejected it

and erased it from my memory. It's terrible. I'd like to show hands. People in the chat room who were like, this was a Tarzan Dan classic. He played this on the hit list. See, I got a few years on you. You might have been too old for Tarzan Dan on 640. Maybe.

I would have been in high school for sure. So yeah, a little out of the demo for sure um the band's tbtbt stands for too bad to be true do you remember what the topic was when we played this band on pandemic friday boy bands good guess it was a song called one track mind i thought it's not boy bands no is, it isn't close. It was the teens and tots episode because these guys were all like teenagers. But big, big, big CanCon

classic. This was all over the radio. This and One Track Mind, mid-90s. But I remember One Track Mind. I don't remember this one. Well, this was the follow-up hit and this is sort of a, this is almost like a ska song, kind of a bouncy. Sure, sure. It's like when the Guess Who did Follow Your Daughter Home.

I don't even remember that. Hey man, follow your daughter home. Toronto Mike, would you believe this song was nominated for the best rap recording at the Junos in 1994? That's embarrassing. Do you know?

Who do you think they lost to? Kish. No. Chocolare. Safe by Rumble. I love Safe by Rumble, as you know. Where's Rumble? Okay, so who's missed? You seem like you're just ticking off. People are missing. Chris Shepard. Rumble. Rumble. I feel like there's

not many on your list anymore. I found them all. I'm still looking. I think we might have found Rumble, but to be honest, and things aren't good. Good people are trying to help Rumble. Chris Shepard is legit like off the grid. We don't know where he is,

but I did get a lead recently from someone whose aunt is in Costa Rica with Chris Shepard. Yeah, that was like a random DM. Like is that? Again, we need Robert Lawson on that. I have a pretty good sniff test for this.

It didn't feel like a random, it felt like somebody was Googling where's Chris Shepard because they were looking for their aunt. Right.

And they had voicemails and messages from their aunt who was with Chris Shepard in Costa Rica, but not being specific as to her whereabouts. She would just check in

once in a while. And I think her family is concerned. So they're saying if we could find Chris Shepard, maybe we can find our aunt. Does her aunt have three PhDs as well? I shouldn't be like, if that is true and the aunt's missing with Chris Shepard in Central America.

And I feel like you brought this up with Ivor Hamilton on his exit interview. Of course I did, because he's one of the guys helping with the CFNY documentary. So I'm like, selfish this up with Ivor Hamilton on his exit interview. Of course I did, because he's one of the guys helping with the CFNY documentary. So I'm like, selfishly, I want to talk to Chris Shepard to fill in some cracks and get some answers as I like chronicle the history of CFNY. But they're literally working on a CFNY documentary. You know, Alan Cross and Ivor Hamilton and these folks, they really want Chris Shepard for that doc. And they can't find him to get him on their documentary.

Like if they can't find him, nobody can. Can I say a final word about the 1994 June Awards? Of course. Canadian Entertainer of the Year. Here's the nominees. These are people that didn't win. Cynthia Dale. Bare Naked Ladies.

Oh. The Tragically Hip. Wow. And Celine Dion. They did not win. You know who won? The tragically hip. Wow, and Celine Dion. They did not win. You know who won the Rankin family. Wow, entertaining there in 1994. Can you believe

it? Can you believe it? I can't believe it. You bring in the heat today. I'm loving this very much. Anyway, let's go to number three like dire straights from walk of life. Yeah, that's fair. That's exactly what that is to Wow. Do-do-do-do-do-do-do. Bringing us straight, a world in fact She sits at my door Angel mercy, tired and frail

She's been strumming the same old chord She says, let me grant you Let me grant you a wish Look inside my back, honey Take your things, search your conscience Then just choose your course And the miracle will be yours Don't give it away, a miracle

Give it away, freedom and hope I'm giving away a miracle Giving away freedom at home Giving away a miracle And the miracle will be yours Do you remember this song? I do. I remember Luba's Giving Away a Miracle. Absolutely. So this is Luba.

Out of Montreal, but I think was born in the Ukraine. Her first few albums in the early 70s were in Ukrainian. How's Luba doing these days? I never hear about her. She took a step back. This is actually all on her Wikipedia page. i think she either was raising a family or she i think maybe your mother got sick and she she took a step back um alan cross just had a uh one of his uh ongoing story there's just speak of other podcasts he just had a people don't just listen to toronto mic yeah he

just can't compete with alan fucking cross he just had an episode of't just listen to toronto mic yeah he just can't keep you of alan fucking cross he just had an episode of like musicians to take a step back and go into other jobs and like i think luba could go into this because she like really stepped right out of the limelight because she was she was a big deal for a while like this song was uh this was a top 10 hitting can i don't think this was her biggest hit that was probably like let it go 100 let it go she did the cover of uh when a man loves a woman by percy sledge wow that was a big cf and y hit michael bolton got a hold of it that this song i like this because this has the sound of that bridge period from the 80s to the 90s um This is from a 1989 album called All... It says

All or Nothing. I think it's All or Nothing probably. But you know who appeared on this album? You had Mike Campbell, not FOTM Mike Campbell, from the Heartbreakers. Of course. Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. And you also had Paul Schaefer. Wow.

Paul Schaefer seems like someone that I bet you could get Paul Schaefer on Toronto Mike. I would love to. I would keep making it happen, buddy. Broker's idea. I want to talk to Paul. I had Dave Thomas. I can get Paul Schaefer.

You're like right there. You're like a degree or two. You know what? I'm just getting started, Cam. Who knows what the future holds? I just got Randy fucking Backman on the show. Now he's mad at me. Yeah.

Do you want to fact check the Jason Priestley episode with me when you're bored? Aussie, I only listen to about 10 minutes. You tapped out. He's not a controversial figure. He doesn't embellish enough. Here's some names of people that I bet you'll get on the podcast in

2024. Luba. Maybe. You're going to get Corey Hart. Guarantee. Wiseblood said I would. You're going to get Corey Hart. Guarantee. Wiseblood said I would. Not the baseball player, the musician. You're going to get Tom Cochran. You know what? That almost happened. That is going to happen. Rosie loves this song

and I just want to tell people there's a new episode of Toronto Scoop the Podcast with Rosie Ferguson and myself. We recorded it today. You could listen to it. And this is walk of life by dire Straits right here. This is the opening.

It's like the extended, the ending. It's like got the accordion comes back to do a do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do,

do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, not to repeat ourselves. Remember the video for this? Like sports bloopers? Yeah, well. It's like Larry Bird like tripping over a table. Like that's. Wow. You remember that?

Mildly. I'll take your word for it. I can't remember. But I do want to say the song that when I first got Brothers in Arms, I bought the cassette first. and I loved all the hits, of course, you know, money for nothing,

all this stuff, but I didn't care too much for this song called Brothers in Arms. And then I saw this episode of the West Wing and President Bartlett had to make this decision. Is he going to run again? Cause he's got MS. Okay. But he's not telling the American people about his MS.

Spoiler. Quite a moment, okay? Stalker Channing, his wife. We had a deal. This was a fucking epic line for me watching the West Wing. But he's in a cathedral and he's smoking a cigarette and Brothers in Arms is playing, okay? And all of a sudden it hit me.

What a fucking brilliant song. And talk about screen enhanced jams. It's now my favorite fucking song in the album because of this scene in the West Wing. It's a great song. It's just a long song.

I think it's a long song and it's like one of those like heartbreakers, man. It's a beautiful song. Doesn't it have like piped in like thunder, like thunderbops and stuff? Yes, right.

Haunting. It's a haunting song. It's hauntingly beautiful. And one day I'm going to kick out the hauntingly beautiful jams. Andrew Ward has joined us on the live stream and he says, Cam, that shirt brings out your eyes. Thank you, Andrew. That's a nice, Andrew, that's a nice thing to say.

Classing it up. That'd be a good topic. Top 10 musicians who wear headbands. You could have. Okay, let me see. Keith Richards birthday today. There you go. Well, that is 80 years old today.

Is that a headband? Or I guess headbands and or do rags. Jimi Hendrix had a headband. Wasn't he getting his LSD through it? Brent Michaels. Who's the lover boy guy? Mike Reno. Mike Reno.

Absolutely. Mark Knopfler. You could have. Right. I like this game. 50 Cent. Little Stevie. Yeah. Yeah. That's Kendall Stevie. He wearsopfler, you could have. Right. I like this game. 50 Cent? Little Stevie? Yeah.

That's Kendall Stevie. He wears a fucking headband. Absolutely. Oh, man. Okay, this is too much fun. Headband, here, that's a freebie for the toast guys. Let's get, okay, so just recapping. Well aware of the Dan Hill song of Vonda Shepard.

I actually don't really remember Get Down To It by TBTBT. I thought it was terrible. Yeah, for Tim's sake, you're wrong. Give It Away, A Miracle, and I've been wrong before. That does not feel good, Jim. It's subjective.

Rosie loves it. I like it. Give It Away, A Miracle by Luba. That's a jam here. This next song. You ready? You ready to drop the needle? I want to get some,

I saw 1236 lurking in the comments. I want to get, because we were talking about this in our group chat. because this is an attic record connection this is attic record this is east coast which Rick Emmett and Triumph has a big attic record well you can ask

if he remembers this song and this all the boom bop beat that was so prevalent in the 90s where a lot of bands that had nothing to do with like hip hop beats or trying to embrace it as they tried to adjust okay and then we can retell the story of Maestro Fresh West. Absolutely.

Dis moi. Yeah, this is why you like it. You love that song, right? We need the Gregorian chant. Okay. Okay. Wow, this beat was everywhere. Ah, Don Juan.

Don Juan. Don Juan. Close. That's wild because it's also got a little of, will you justify my love? Yeah, Andrew Ward, Enigma. My love, definitely Enigma. But also it's got a bit of that public enemy

security of the first world. If you ever go to YouTube and listen to that, security of the first world was taken for justify my love. Midtown Gord, other people who wear bandanas, Phil X from Bon Jovi. Oh, there's a connection. He took Rick Emmett's spot in Triumph.

There you go. Frozen Gist. Frozen Ghost. Oh, Arnold Lanny? Arnold Lanny? Yeah. What's the other sheriff? Yeah, and not the meringue. No, hold on.

There's sheriff, but there's also Alias. Oh, Alias, yeah. So Alias, Sheriff, and Frozen Ghost all have an intertwined history. Who did Popper in Paradise? That was Frozen Ghost. That's Frozen Ghost. Well, this isn't Frozen Ghost. And that's not a forgotten gem.

This is... Drop the needle! This is Haywire. Would you believe it? Talk about a vibe shift as Haywire tried to adjust. We played Haywire in one of these episodes in the past. I think we played that Drop the Needle because I think we

might have tied it to Maestro because he sampled it without authorization. What is that song called though? That song? Was it Bad Bad Boys? No, Dance. Oh, Dance Desire. I'm thinking about the years far from over. Like, Haywire had some fucking jams.

Attic Records, buddy. This song, I remember specifically one summer mowing lawns for my neighbor. And this would be on all the time on Mix 99.9. Mike, would you believe this was a number 13 hit in canada the second highest haywire hit ever this came out in 1994 haywire buzz is the kind of song here on chfi in a kitchen table store in the five minutes before it closes at midnight yeah Yeah, that's... At 12.36. That's fair. Well, this GLB is giving me the buzz, Mike.

There's like a... Well, you got the octopus, man. I'm only good for two octopuses and then I'm like... Then you're going to get the buzz. And then I'm tipsy. I'm drinking bursts because I'm a lightweight. I'm not a heavyweight like you. What do you think?

This is a good song. Like, it's very much of the year, but I don't know. First of all, the beat's good, but it's from other better songs, right? so there's better songs using the exact same beat hello to tobias vaughn by the way that the album um that this was on has the worst cover art it's like a baby pet sounds it's like a baby or the the pet sounds is a great cover um there's like a baby orangutan have you seen this before no i i think

it's called like bang or something i should have written this one if maestro didn't sample drop the needle from haywire like my haywire like i danced desire on cftr that's it like i don't have any more yeah keep on moving by soul to soul this song there's much better songs and i don't even know who i'm quoting there j-hoHo? Yeah, who's J-Ho? J-Ho. I don't know. It's a new blood. See, this ties together.

I don't know. You know, we follow each other on Instagram. Me and MF, we went to the AGO because Daddy G. Daddy G? Daddy G from Soul to Soul was spinning on us like a week ago. We just saw him. Anybody who follows me on Instagram, you can go. Not Simon Law, but Daddy G.

I saw you on Instagram doing that. Yeah, it was awesome. We watched for a good 15 minutes. He was in the main foyer. There were people dancing. It was great. Back to life. Okay, so all these songs we're talking about are much, much better than this shitty Haywire song that

we're listening to right now. It's not a good song. It's forgettable. I didn't remember. This is a number 13 hit It's forgettable. Oh. I didn't remember. I didn't remember. This is a number 13 hit. So what? Unlucky number 13. On what? CHFI in 1998. Anyway, one more fun fact. This is the Esri Geography Corner.

You know, actually, can I tell you? I'm in serious discussions with Esri to make that a thing. Esri Geography Corner. Really? And you were brought up at a meeting I was on. And I was very sick when I did the Zoom. Like, I shut it down because I was not feeling well. Oh, it's Jeremy, who was at TMLX14. That's who Jay Ho is.

Jeremy came on late. He sat with us. Who does the Toronto Archive. That's him. Very cool. He was fantastic. But okay, so I'm in the midst of negotiations with Esri. Is Grogowski involved?

Grogowski is involved. And we're formalizing the Esri. Is Gregoski involved? Gregoski is involved and we're formalizing the Esri Geography Corner and we were explaining to the marketing person about how there's this gentleman, Cam Gordon, who would drop the reference

on Pandemic Friday and Toast episodes. So we're working on it. Absolutely. Well, here's another freebie. Haywire famously from PEI, Charlottetown. Quickly, I'm going to run down some other musicians from pei

paul jans this came up last week all right i'm ready i'm ready chris murphy what yes born in pei yes he did mention that here's this is good tie back into um tbtbt the band always molly or is a molly rankin this vocalist does The spawn from the Rankin family. Not always, but the two Vs. Always. Like Archie. Always. Yeah, the Archie song, Marry Me Archie.

Yeah, Marry Me Archie. Love that song. Yeah. And this guy's not really a musician, though. He played one on TV, another FOTM, Jonathan Torrance. He's from Sherwood Town. The hilarious Jonathan Torrance. He's in Trailer Park Boys.

Absolutely. I think he's connected to Letter Kenny, too, in some regard, or maybe Shorzy or something. And Al Grego, who, by the way, has sent over this Moneris wireless speaker for you, Cam. The cuddly one. MF, you're going to get lots of gifts tonight, okay? The cuddly one wants you to listen to season five of Yes, We Are Open.

As you know, Cam, that's an award-winning podcast from Moneris, hosted by the cuddly one Al Grego. I've heard he's been going back and forth across Canada. He's been to Charlotte. I don't know if he went to Charlottetown, but he went out east. He went to the Maritimes and he went to Newfoundland and he collects these inspiring

stories from small business owners and entrepreneurs and he shares them with us. We are so blessed to have season five of Yes Yes We Are Open available now. To quote Luba, you're giving away a miracle here with this fine product. The next song, teaser,

this next song I'm going to kick out after I shout out one more podcast. Absolutely. Is a song, not only do I remember it, but not a week goes by that I don't hear this song in my head. I loved this song. my head. Okay. I love this song. Well, that's the only place you're going to hear it.

This is another. Susie, that's a. Don't get choked up, Cam. Come on. Wait, Cam. Hold your fire. I'm all fired up here. I got the buzz.

You're doing quite well working for the phone company. You probably got a lovely severance check from Twitter. I think you're doing quite well. Okay. You married a major league reporter with a huge public broadcaster. Beautiful person inside and out. You've got some cash and you need to invest

it wisely. I really recommend the Advantage Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada. Subscribe, listen, educate yourself, man. I learned so much from the Advantage Investor podcast from raymond james canada this is i'm not bullshitting you here i have a meeting with my bank this friday night

i'm gonna listen to some episodes before i go because i want to get my finances in order you know rsp season is coming up yeah there's and you got a daughter there's our esp just turned 15 like wow university time get on that man it's RASP time. Absolutely. Get on that, man. It's expensive. Anyway, this is another artist I would love to hear. I think Mark Weisblad has some thoughts on this artist. I feel like I've talked to him about this guy before. Sounds like Bourbon Tabernacle Choir. Hey!

FOTM Chris Brown. Chris Brown. stick with it man this is not the part that bounces around it's good this does have a great course in my mind though it's faster i don't know if there's a faster version or if I just speed it up in my head. Why don't you pick up the phone? Or are you happy alone? Are you happy alone? The chorus is great.

We don't need that. Are you happy alone? Are you happy alone? The chorus is great. We don't need that. Are you happy alone? Are you happy alone? And this breakdown is awful. Not unlike, what is it, standing outside the phone booth with a quarter in my pocket. I wrote down three B's for this that reminded me. A little bit of boot sauce. Okay.

A little bit of Big Sugar. Yeah. Especially that chorus. Yes. That organ, as well as Beck in very much of the era. The artist is, well, there you go. Here's a segue. Jason Beck, a.k.a. Sun.

This is the song by his alter ego, Sun. Was it a band or was that his name? I think it was a band. I think we're on to something. There might be a podcast miniseries as we examine Sun, one of the great Canadian rock and roll swindles. I have an impeccable source on that. Yeah, well, and he famously

became Chili Gonzalez that became a big collaborator. Who Michael Boguski kept referencing in the backyard, of course. Absolutely, he did the albums with Feist and with Peaches and does his own solo piano thing, lives in Berlin, has a really great run.

Kind of like a lot of Can we name a second song from this beloved artist? I don't think so, but you remember this. Yeah, 100% I remember this. This was all over CFNY. Maybe not all over. See, my brain now can't remember is it Much Music, is it CFNY,

it's one of those two or both, but absolutely the song was all around. It was in the zeitgeist. And you pulled it down because it was catchy AF. I'm not saying it's a good song. I'm saying it got stuck in my head. A lot of shitty songs have got stuck in my head. Well, that part about the great rock and roll swindle Canadian version,

like that's on his Wikipedia page. He was with Warner Brothers. This is like a late 90s album. Sort of reminds me of that band Soul Coughing, too, by the way. So this was on their first album, Thriller. They toured. They opened for Bermuda Ladies.

That's ballsy. So the second album, Warner Brothers paid for Sun to go down to LA, a fully equipped studio, according to Wikipedia. Again, we can get Lawson on that. With the assistance of his brother Christopher, put together an album called

Wolfstein. Nominally a concept album about a man who starts turning into a wolf after hitting one with his car. Wow. This is the dying days of that plateau of the record industry.

Is this a Landsteel My Sunshine vibe where he's like, take this money and make a video and he just hangs out with his buddies. Pretty much. But like, again, this guy went on. Basement Dweller says it's dreck. You don't hear that criticism very often. I think it's a great chorus, but that sort of rapping part is really bad. But again, Jason Beck went on to collaborate.

Here's some names for you. Feist. We got Peaches. We got Jarvis Cocker. Wow. FOTM Jarvis Cocker. We got the late great Jane Birkin. Whose purse was famous.

The Birkin bag. That's right. And then one of the biggest albums of the aughts this guy appeared on. That was Random Access Memories by Daft Punk in 2014. The guy who sang Pick Out the Phone, Jason Beck, a.k.a. Chili Gonzalez, was in it. And Chili Gonzalez's brother is the main Marvel movie composer. That is according to 1236. Wow, that's a fun fact.

You know what? Just come by more. Cam, you've been here, what, twice in 2023? Like, why not come by more often? Because just chatting with you and playing songs, suddenly everything starts to connect, man. Absolutely. The fun facts just start to present themselves. Yeah, they pull in all the other episodes,

parts of the lexicon. Absolutely. I'll be back many more times look i'm not zooming with you man i totally agree i'm not zooming with you cam that's the i will be back and we'll do there's an infinite number of songs we could listen to this okay absolutely i'm gonna be back in 2024 the next song this is still a song you hear on Boom 97.3. One of our, another favorite trope from Bandit of Fridays was, this is the Canadian version of this band. This band we're about to hear is the Canadian version of UB40.

I've met a guy from this, speaking of Fergies, I met a guy from this band. Oh, we're going to talk about him. I met a guy from this band. Oh, we're going to talk about him. Come on. Show me that you're mine, girl. All right. Just give me some kind of sign, girl. Oh, my darling. Show me that you're mine, girl. All right.

Well, if you do want me. All right. Talk to me about the satellites. Give me some kind of sign. Give me some kind of sign. This is a song that I almost hesitated putting on this list because I still feel like somehow you hear this song quite a lot. Again, I feel like if you're driving around in a car listening to Boom 97.3. Oh. Why did you meet the singer for this band?

Again, another Fergie. Fergus Hamilton. Hamilton. That's right. Okay. So here's the basic. How do you know Fergie? I have been producing.

First of all, he's very accessible. I'm 100% sure I could get Fergie in this basement. And why haven't you? Why haven't you? I don't know, man. A little bit of a blind spot for me. But I can tell you that there was a period of time before Humble and Fred moved their show to Zoom. You know, you got to get people in the morning.

You got to get them into the Humble and Fred studio at Islington and Queensway not too far from here fred drives in well he would back then and i i had coincidentally i had just booked miles goodwin from april wine oh because miles goodwin was uh humble howard's favorite singer growing up like his first concert was april. He was a big April Wine fan as a kid. And then I said, Fred didn't give a fuck about April Wine. He just doesn't give a fuck about April Wine. About anything. But then I was like, I need to do something for Fred. And I had been chatting with Fred.

And Fred kept talking about how much he loved seeing the satellites in concert in Toronto as a younger man. He loved the satellites. So I reached out to Fergie through the website or something. Right. And Fergie agreed to visit the Humble and Fred studio and talk about the satellites. Seems like a great guy.

Easy going guy who was easy to book. And yeah, it was that simple. Again, maybe in 2024, I get him in the basement because he's exceptionally easy

to book. Okay. Well, I saw them play at the chicken deli back in the basement because he's exceptionally easy to book. Okay. Well, I saw them play at the chicken deli back in the day. I totally made that up. But this seems like a band that would just be ubiquitous at like street festivals. They were a huge live band in Toronto for years. Kind of a party band and just like feel good vibes. Kind of, you know, unique band, kind of, you know, multi-racial which is cool. This song was

on the radio. He's got to be pushing 70 now, Fergie. Oh, at least. Fergie was in a band in the 60s in the Yorkville scene, including a band called A Passing Fancy. You're making me want to book him. Who was the guy who did the plaque with the sticker you, son? Oh, that's right. That is

Andrew Witkin's father, Barry Witkin. so maybe someone he would have encountered Sylvia Tyson was just on Toronto Mike and we were talking about the purple onion and you know Sylvia Tyson's son was in Look People that I did not know until I

heard Clay his name is yeah so that's not just Sylvia Tyson's son that's Ian and Sylvia Tyson's son you want's Ian and Sylvia Tyson's son. Well, Mike, you want to know one more final fun fact about the Satellites? They played the first ever Edge Fest. Here's some of the bands they played with. Tell me if there's any FOTMs in here.

Was it called Edge Fest or was this like a Canada Day Festival? No, this was the first ever Edge Fest. I'm ready. Here's some bands. Let's talk about some guys, okay? We've got The Spoons. Wow. And the FOTMs there.

Rob Pruse, Gord Depp, and Sandy Horn. I think Pruse was gone by this time. This is like 87, 88. We got Blue Rodeo. Okay, well, Jim Cuddy's an FOTM. And Michael Baguski's an FOTM. Was Basil Donovan? Not yet.

Basil? Not yet. Bob Wiseman is. Basil McCray. Basil Donovan is not yet an FOTM. Mike, we got Carol Pope played. That's an FOTM. Holy shit.

We got a band, a guy that you saw the other day, we got The Pursuit of Happiness. I was literally right in front of Moberg. Could have touched Moberg. Stroked his blonde locks. I could have touched Moberg. Given it a yank.

I've touched Moberg before. Haven't we all? Not the baseball player. A couple other bands played. I can't remember if there's any FOTMs here. The Northern Pikes? Yes. Okay.

You had Merle on? The main pike is a fucking FOTM. The main fucking Northern Pike is an FOTM. He's in Saskatchewan right now. Which guy? What are you talking about, which guy? Podfin? Brian Podfin?

Mark Pusus? I'm getting mixed up with hockey players. Jay Semko. Jay Semko, right, right, right. You're thinking of Brian Podfin. Brian Podfin. So Jay Semko, one of the main Northern Pikes, is absolutely an FOTM. Are you kidding me right now?

And then one band who, I don't think you have any FOTMs, and sadly half this band is no longer with us, but Teenage Head played. by for his exit interview is very keen on getting that band inducted into the Canadian Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, the Juno Hall of Fame thing. I get them all confused. Maybe all of them. I feel like if and again, this is another sort of 1236-ism, they were going to put like the statue of Frankie Venom

up in Hamilton, but he did some bad stuff back in the day. Yeah, he was a dick. Not a likable guy. He's no Tom Wilson. But Gordy Lewis is just like salt of the earth type and his story of when he passed was just awful. Well, Marvin Gaye's dad killed him,

but yeah, this is a very sad story. Anyway, final thought about teenage hit. I actually mentioned this to Tom Wilson you may recall at your listener event because when Tom Wilson... TMLX14? No, yeah, when he is... Were you there? Yes, when I to Tom Wilson, you may recall, at your listener event. Because when Tom Wilson... TMLX14? No, yeah, when he is... Were you there?

Yes, when I told Tom Wilson, you spoke at my class at McMaster. Right. Gordy Lewis was in the class. Gordy Lewis is in the class, and you said Mike Treblecock, another FFTM. Mike Treblecock. And the teacher, the prof, Mike Daly.

I know. This is why you need the job, by the way. We're off in here. Okay, let's just take a breath for a minute here. We only have a few more jams to go. I just want this to last. I'm enjoying this. MF, can I borrow him for the night?

Please. I'll return him in the morning, okay? I want to let you know and the FOTMs know that we have an exciting announcement to make. EPRA, they're the good people behind RecycleMyElectronics.ca, have committed to sponsoring and fueling this real talk

throughout 2024. God bless. Congratulations. I need all partners to just buy the fucking 12 months. None of this three months at a time. Not that I'm complaining, but I'm very grateful to the good people at EPRA.

When I need to recycle my cables, my old phone, the electronics I've stumbled upon in my travels, I go to recyclemyelectronics.ca. I find out a place near me where I can drop it off and then it's properly recycled so the chemicals don't end up in our landfill, Cam. See, there's even a tie-in to this. Remember when I met you at the horseshoe

and I infected you? I do remember this. Remember what I brought to show you? We didn't, but remember I brought the LG Shine phone. I 100%. We could recycle that, you know, toss it in. I'm not going to toss it in the landfill. What do I do with that?

So, you know, Tom Wilson and Junk House were kind of late hitting the stage. So we had our Great Lakes in the bar and I think there's a Leaf game on. And, you know, I Wilson and Junk House were kind of late hitting the stage. So we had our Great Lakes in the bar and there's I think there's a leaf game on and you know I was having a good time catching up with you and you like sitting by the front. So people recognize you. I don't do any. There were like

three different. There were three different people. Only three. Yeah, I beat that record of the Transcanada. I clean the door at the young lady. What is it like when you're with somebody who people are like, I love your show, man. It's Toronto Mike. Good to see you here.

Between you and MF, I mean, you know, I'm surrounded by greatness. Who gets recognized more, MF or Toronto Mike? I feel like more people come up to you. There's actually one more tie-in. This is actually important.

It's okay. You can just touch your nose when you want the next chance. Okay. So you have like a show coming up up songs you didn't know were covers well it's an fotm kotj and everyone listening can be a part of this just record yourself talking about a song you love that you didn't initially know was a cover record yourself talking on your phone or your computer whatever for 30 to 90 seconds and then email that audio file to mike at torontomike.com

and then you will be on this FOTM KOTJ episode. I'll probably cook up I don't know, soon. Well, you know what? Someone might pick that song we just heard, Give Me Some Sky Sign because that's actually a cover by Brenton Wood. It's a 1967 soul

song. So there you go. I did not know that. Fun fact. Okay, you're blowing my mind right now. Absolutely. You ready? I said there were three jams to go, but there's four to go. You ready? Okay. I'm curious if you'll remember this song. Okay, I'll be honest with you. Sounds like damn Yankees. Not the musical. One more time

Just forgive and forget Cause it's not over yet Oh One more time Just don't turn it away So the answer, Cam, is yes, I do remember this, but I haven't thought of this song in a very long time. This was more a Q107,

although I did see the video for this on MuchMusic quite a bit. The name alongside Haywire? One More Try, not to be confused by the Timmy T song. One more try, I didn't know how much I loved you. So who's dead? Didn't he commit suicide, Timmy T? So he became a record executor. All right, keep talking about Brighton Rock, and I'll confirm that.

Anywho. Name a song one more try. Name of the band, Brighton Rock. This song went to number 38 in Canada in 1988, maybe 1989. I didn't specify. It sounds like 1988, maybe 1989. I didn't specify. It sounds like 1988, maybe 1989. Yeah. Now, named after a British gangster.

He's not dead. Timmy T, very much with us. He's only 56. A boy, a younger artist who was in that New Kids on the Block area. It'll come to me. Oh, Tommy Page. Tommy Page. He died.

He killed himself. Okay. And he was in Full House. That's right. He was signing autographs at the... Didn't he want to date

Stephanie Tanner or something? She was a big young friend but I think she wanted to date him maybe. Kind of a Lolita type thing. Anyway, Brighton Rock, the famous... Wasn't she a stripper,

Stephanie? I think she had some substance things. Nothing wrong with that. Shout out to John Gallagher. Named after a British gangster book from the 1930s, later made into a film starring a young Richard Attenborough. Wow. Is that the guy from Jurassic Park?

Because there's brothers, right? There's the other Attenborough. The other guy's like the planet Earth dude. Right. David Attenborough. He's dead, right? David Attenborough. That's right. the guy from Jurassic Park because there's brothers right there's the other Adam Burrow the other guy's like the planet earth dude right he's dead right David Adam Burrow that's right this album was produced by Jack Jack Richardson

what a generic name imagine you live your whole life like you're Cam fucking Gordon okay I'm Toronto Mike okay imagine your name was what's his name Ken Richardson what's his name Ken Jack Richardson Jack Richardson's his name? Ken, Jack Richardson. Jack Richardson. Like, I don't know, like, can you even remember that name?

There's Midtown Gord here, because Jack Richardson produced I think he did a lot of the Lear and albums. Oh, I have Sean Kelly. I have an email from him in my inbox right now. Sean Kelly, who is somebody that Midtown Gord has wanted, thought I should get on. So, Midtown Gord writes wanted, thought I should get on. So Midtown Gord writes,

I got tired of Brighton Rock. They were at rock and roll heaven all the time. That adds up. I did see them open up for Boston in maybe December 1989. So that all checks out. In this video was Kanda's first supermodel,

Monica Schnarr. I don't think she was a supermodel. I don't want to be that guy she was absolutely like um she won a contest to be a big time model but i don't think she ever achieved supermodel status i feel i feel like she came up on pandemic friday because she was the co-star she would come on toronto mic tomorrow via zoom there's a list of people who would come on tomorrow via Zoom that I have said polite no's to because I'm either doing them in person or I'm not going to do it at all.

And she's on that list. I'm not bullshitting you. I think she was at the Shine phone launch because she used to be on our list because she was on the cocktail party circuit back then. That's not even a mind blow. I'm not surprised. Anyway, we've talked about this before,

the TV show Boogie's Diner. Of course. Yeah. Co-starring Monica Schnarr, Jim J. Bullock. Right. From Too Close for Comfort. Too Close to Comfort. A young James Marsden.

Wow. And as well, my cousin, Kathy, who's now in a cult. Are you serious right now? This is like you have a cousin in a cult? Yes. Is it called Scientology? No, I'm not going gonna say what it is because you could probably google moon children or whatever okay okay um wow anyway the vocalist for bright

and rock uh jerry mcgee um he died in 2020 and he was also born in scotland so like another mind blow this again i'm stealing this from 1236 on the live chat. He ran the main vinyl pressing plant in town before he passed away. Obviously, if you ran it after you died, that'd be quite something, right? Who, Jerry, Jerry Mickey? Yes. Okay. Isn't that amazing? And Jack Richardson, just to blow your mind, this is, again, a basement dweller I'm stealing this from.

He produced the Guess Who? That's what it was. Okay. Shout out to Robert Lawson because Basement Dweller gets it. His son is Garth Richardson. Do you know this? It's like it's Garth with like 5Gs who was like a 90s producer.

I forget. I feel like he... Wait a minute. His name's Garth with 5Gs? Yeah, it's like four 5Gs. Because my phone is fucking 5G. There you go. They knew it was coming.

They knew. You have a fucking phone, man. I know. Is 6G coming? Stay coming. You don't have a fucking phone, man. Is 6G coming? Stay tuned. Because I don't want to rest until I get to 6G. Brighton Rock, who was it? The brother says amazing fun facts. I think this episode should just go on forever.

I don't think it is done. I'm just getting started here. I'm just getting started. We got two more tracks. Fuck 3G. I want 5G. Could someone say who did G-G-G-Garth produce? Somebody tell us

who G-G-G-Garth produced. I want to say it was like Frontline Assembly. He did not produce Lee Aaron. Basement Dwellers put in some water. Where's Robert Lawson for this? I can call him. He's probably at Cloverdale Mall right now actually. We should do a live recording from Sunrise probably at Cloverdale mall right now. Actually, we should do a live recording from sunrise records at Cloverdale.

I would say like, I'm very close to the facts. I'm not like totally just making shit up. Like I hung out with the Beatles at least. So I like the Miles Davis idea. He, maybe there was a big festival somewhere where on one stage at one time was Miles Davis and at another stage at another time was BTO.

Yeah, but that's not playing with Miles. No, I know, but this is the kind with Miles Davis. No, I know. But this is the kind of embellishment he does, right? Like based on that kernel of truth, he now talks about, I played with Miles Davis because we played on the same day at the same event. So technically. I would like to know when they went to London, like did they meet?

Who did they meet? I would like to know. Right. Okay. Well, they probably met that uh the pirates uh who the pirates what's the name of the band that did shaken all over shaking something in the pirates okay anyway this was the british band that did shaken all over and then of course that was the first guess who hit but that was pre burton okay it was like freddie and the dreamers no it

was something in the pirates i'll google it in a minute but absolutely fucking pirates in there okay i know that enough. Not Paul Revere and the Raiders. No, this is... They're from Boise. Hold on. UK band Pirates shaken all over. Yes, I do. I saw her during the pandemic. Johnny Kidd and the Pirates.

Johnny Kidd and the Pirates. They did shaken all over. And then, of course, so that's a British hit. And then, guess who? They were uh we just lost chad allen it was chad allen and the um whatever and they fucking did the cover something like that and uh they did a cover of it uh that's the rest of the story how about uh musicians who dressed like pirates most famously adam ant who I think is touring next year. It is Chad Allen in the Expressions, by the way.

And then that became the Guess Who. Also, you ever see a video of Roxy Music playing on the old gray whistle test? There's one episode, Brian Ferry's wearing an eye patch. Well, what about Keith Richards? Does he dress like a pirate? Because he inspired the Johnny Depp character. Even sort of like Aerosmith.

Okay, you know this jam? I'm about to kick out a forgotten Cam Con jam. This is a great song. Yes, but you do know this band is FOTMs, and we played the song in that episode. Okay, so let's play it, and then we'll talk about it. And ties in nicely with Moe bird sure does it's all connected people Sometimes She's got one foot in the grave

Unkind Just playing their game All the things she's done to them She's hiding Will it always be this way All the things she's done to them she is hiding Will it always be this way she is crying Just before Mary goes she comes around Just before Mary goes she comes around Just before Mary goes she comes around

She comes around Episode 745 of Toronto Mike featured Universal Honey, which is the husband and wife duo of Johnny Sinclair and Leslie Stanwyck. And this, I think we'd agree, was their biggest hit. What year was that episode? That episode was exactly November 3rd, 2020. So they left Pursuit Happiness in the early 90s. Was it acrimonious? I don't really recall.

It was not a friendly parting. I think it caught Moe by surprise. Okay. It's too bad. This was a song you would hear on the radio. A hundred percent. Yeah. Absolutely.

I know this song. Just before Mary goes, um, a lot of songs about Mary, by the way, you could almost do like a, a toast about songs about Mary, especially all the Mary Jane songs.

And there's even a band with like a, what's the cumbersome band called? Seven Mary Three. Seven Mary Three. Yeah. And you can do Mary, you got the, um,

Monkeys, Mary Mary. And then of course the, uh, Run DMC cover, if you will, Mary, Mary. You've got the Barstow Prophets, Paranoia in bracket, Mary, Mary. Oh, and Jimi Hendrix, Wind Cries Mary. Wind Cries Mary. You have Pear Ubu waiting for Mary. Of course, you know, Mary being the, and at the season, you must know this, Cam, you're a good Christian soldier.

Mary was the mother of Jesus. Oh, that's a fun fact. And my mom's name! And then you've got, I know one of your favorite soundtracks of the 90s. Judgment Night. You've got Cypress Hill and Sonic Youth, I Love You

Mary Jane. Should a son come by to get me high? Lance Dance with Mary Jane by Tom Petty featuring Mike Campbell. Right. Universal Honey, they did a pretty good run. They played some shows in the 90s with Duran Duran, Goo Goo Dolls,

and here's a project I had not thought of in so many years. The Heads. Do you remember The Heads? This is the Talking heads without david burn and um i can't remember if tina waymouth was in it i feel like it was everybody except david burn and they would have rotating vocalists okay okay they had a song called the damage that i've done that featured jeanette napolitano that got some spins on cf hawaii her of um

Paula Tano. That got some spins on CFY. Her of the Congress. No, from Concrete Blonde, of course. Joey. I'm trying to remember who else was on that album. They had an album called No Talking, Just Head. People remember this.

This was a big deal. Okay, we ran down a bunch of Mary songs, but I'm just going to throw in, the brother has another one here. Snaps, Mary Had a Little Lamb. That's a deep cut on the snaps. I'm just going to throw in the brother has another one here snaps. Mary had a little lamb. That's a that's a deep cut on this. I'm more of an I got the power was it to Jerry Hall. Is this Jerry Hall in the cover of the Roxy music

album like siren? I don't know. Lots happening here. Wow. See basement drawer loves that head album or the heads out. This is very confusing because there's head teenage head the heads right that This is very confusing because there's head, teenage head, the heads, right? The head,

of course, that's a Thorne Lee's own, right? Yeah. I'm trying to remember who else was on that. I feel like Terry Hall from the specials was on that. Maybe again, it was like it was,

it was sort of like that Mike Watt album. Like there was like a different vocalist on every. Now you're making me think of D Boone. Okay. This is so the Minuteman. Okay. So that's so that's only forgotten. I mean, I never

forgot just before Mary goes, but you know, minor CanCon alt-rock hit, if you will. Well, this next song is a band we talk about all the time here on Toronto. I don't think we hear this song that much, and we love this band. I think this song kind of sucks.

I hate to say. Listen to those snare drums there. What's going on? We do talk about this band a lot, especially in my rusty, wake me retrospective. Wake me, Retro Stector. It's a real snoozer, this song. Snow will just drift away Anybody's just like you Nothing in my life Everything I've done

Goes to sin and all to pain Everything I've done I don't think it sucks. Do you like this song? I don't mind it, actually. Okay. Well, this is, of course, Susie, the Doughboys. This might be their biggest charting song.

Really? That's a mind blow right there. Well, this song went to number 28 in Canada because I don't think Shine or Fix Me or any of those other songs charted. This song, I remember seeing this on Much Music as well. I think I remember hearing this on 99.9. So you think this song sucks?

I mean, it's hard subjective. Let me walk that. I don't think it sucks. I think it's very forget subjective. Let me walk that by. I don't think it sucks. I think it's very forgettable. There's a reason I think we don't hear this because it's not interesting. It's a little sleepy. Yeah. And like we like the high energy Doughboys and it's like a shine.

You're not alone. If you fix me, I'll fix you. All that. All that. Would you say they're pop punk? They're not really like a pop punk band. Yeah, they're poppy pop punk, I'd call them. This just sounds like adult alternative radio.

Like this sounds like kind of Matchbox 20 kind of schlock. It's fine, but this is when Jonathan Cummings left the band. Who was the guy who went on to Rusty? Scott McCullough. Scotty Mac, we call him well this is the era of uh the doughboys had a guy named whiz in the band who's a british guy who played uh with mega city four and this i this might be in jason schneider's book like the really big one the have not been the same about how the doughboys in the uk they would tour with like pop will eat itself ned's atomic

dustbin they were like in that like grebo scene but i always think doughboys are interesting because they didn't really fit any like they weren't really like in the scene with like moist and like our lady peace because they're a bit earlier but they were kind of separate from pursuit of happiness northern pikes they were kind of doing their own thing and touring in the US a lot. Did you ever listen, Cam Gordon, to the Wake Me deep dive? I put together an episode about Rusty's Wake Me. Strangely, I don't think I listened to that. I was very hurt when Chris Murphy said he had to get heard my underwhelmed deep dive.

I've only done two of these things and one is on underwhelmed by sloan and one is on wake me it's episode 1367 you'll hear all about uh the doughboys you'll hear about mad men because of course the connection there and you'll hear about scotty mack and rusty and you'll learn that like Ken McNeil, who's the lead singer for Rusty, you know, his side hustle was working on like props and stuff for videos and filming stuff.

And he would, he was working on the video for shine by Russ, by, by a double boys with a psychedelic background. Yeah. Isn't that kind of a, kind of a mind blow. I,

I, and I'd be remiss i need to mention every single time doughboys came up where i went to the teenage head tribute night where ian blurton sang a song and was it one of the dead boys was there stiff baiters or something but then john castner and i i stood right beside uh i always just want to call her Dawn Draper's second wife. Yeah. Her. Draper.

Yeah. What's her name? Is it Monica? No, it'll, God bless. Jessica? Jessica Paré. Jessica Paré. P-A-R-E.

I think you can put a little accent on that. Standing right beside her is her husband saying, you know, picture my face. Babalicious, right? Yeah.

Okay. Love all this. Did Kastner ever get rid of the dreadlocks? No, I think he still has it. By theicious, right? Yeah. Okay. Love all this. Did Kastner ever get rid of the dreadlocks? No, I think he still has it. By the way, speaking of dreadlocks, I saw a photo.

I'm just like, this is now like the I saw this on Instagram, but I saw a very interesting photo the other day. I'm curious what he was doing there of Scott from Rusty hanging out with Cone

from Sum 41. And I'm curious what they were doing together. Scotty Mac will answer my text messages. I can find out if you have any questions. Scott McAuliffe from Rusty. I didn't think Rusty was playing shows. Also, here's the difference. Chris Murphy says he hasn't heard

the underwhelmed deep dive. Meanwhile, I can tell you now, every member of Rusty, even the guy who's living out in Europe, has heard the wake Me Deep Dive the first day it dropped. They shared it, they listened, they were honored, they loved it. That was the difference between Rusty and Ben.

Mike Epple listened to it. By the way, can I spoil that fun fact that my friend Rosie Gray Teo put about Coax Me on Wikipedia? Because that was a real mind blow. It's not the band I hate, it's their fan. Not about Consolidated.

Right, because, okay, the rumor in, like there was a rumor it was the Tragically Hip, but of course in the song it's Consolidated because it rhymes with Concentrated, OJ, or whatever.

But you can tell us now because it was revealed in Toronto Mike, who is it about? It's about Kate Bush. That's a mind blow. Yeah. And a Jay Ferguson.

Cause he said like his classmates were a little too into Kate Bush. I'm sure all those like millennials who really like stranger things and running up that hill, probably crushed. But now this is documented for eternity by Wikipedia. It's still up there. I checked the, the Wikipedia police did it.

You're doing God's work. Well, my, my associate. Oh yeah. Whoever, whoever, whoever that man is probably MF. Or maybe, maybe, maybe not man. Maybe, you know, checked the wikipedia police did it you're doing god's work well my my associate oh yeah whoever whoever that man is probably mf or maybe maybe maybe not man maybe you know we don't assign gender to this wonderful person who knows okay so we're down to the last jam yes how we when can we do it tomorrow when can you be back i absolutely love these i'll be back tomorrow with 10 more

pieces to spend the night and then we'll just pick it up in the morning with 10 new forgotten. It's an endless... Sammy Cohen was like, oh, I wanted to be there. And I'm like, well, I think there's more. I feel like there's an endless supply of forgotten. As long as CanCon rules are in, we'll never run out of forgotten CanCon jams

because the radio's got to play them. Absolutely. Okay, here is the final Forgotten CanCon jam that Cam Gordon brought to us today. One of your mom's favorite artists. Yeah, my mom. Speaking of misgendering people, she was a great one.

She's dead named. Don't tell my heart, my achy, breaking heart. Saw a face in the middle of America Eking rhythm on the drum skin of my heart In America Felt like a child in the arms of America Felt the crowd Heard the voices of

Billions dreaming In America With the soft hearts In the back seat Of the Cadillac Shiny and red Past late night period I don't mind

But I really want to see those stars at night Hold on, America, ain't it the truth? Hold on, these golden miles are through Everything here can get a little bit hazy Take more out of it than you can make Can't fall for that beat To take you away FOTM, Kim Mitchell.

I like the bass line on this. Mike, do you remember this song? Kim Mitchell. I like the baseline on this. Mike, do you remember this song? Kim Mitchell, America. You know what? I barely remember this. Like, I'm not sure if I do or if it's just, maybe I might have heard it

once or twice or whatever, but this is like on Kim Mitchell's greatest hits, right? Yeah. Well, this is from, this is from 1992, the album Oral Fixations. So we were talking the other day about, I Am A Wild Parties on that, no? This is the album Oral Fixations. So we were talking the other day about...

I Am A Wild Parties on that, no? This is the album after. That was Rockland, Wonderland, whatever that was. Right, right, right. We were talking the other day about like 80s acts trying to adjust to the 90s. Yeah. I kind of like this song

because this sounds like this could have come out in like 1986, you know, right after Go For Soda or whatever. It's got a little hook to it here. Yeah, but it sounds great. Mike, would you believe this song? This was a number one song on the Much Music Countdown for two weeks in 1992. And I sort of remember that because I went to the internet, I found and I corroborated. This was in July of 1992.

It was number one for canada did you watch the coca-cola countdown to confirm it at number one i there's there's some guy who like aggregated them all so you can actually find all this stuff so this song before i went to number one the predecessor was celine dion if you ask me to if you ask me to do you want to know we wish was a forgotten do you want to know the song that knocked this

out of the top spot something you fucked up on this year and that the name of that song is beg your pardon

close no the name of the song is Friday I'm in Love by The Cure oh yeah it was supposed to be playing as like

me and MF walked down the aisle I know she's gone from the live stream I think oh she's still there actually is she angry tell from the live stream. I think. Oh, she's still there.

Actually. Is she angry? Tell me the truth because I did. I fucked it up. It's kind of like I was set up to fail if I may because I received

a Google doc that I printed. I printed it and I had it with me on good paper and I'm like, okay, I know what I have to do

and this is the cue for this. It's the cue for that. I'm going to play this. I'm just going to play that and it was very clear that we were going to close with Justin Timberlake. Which you hate.

Which I think is a terrible song. Which you hate. I know. MF gets, the bride gets what the bride wants. The bride wants Justin Timberlake. But then I guess subsequently there was a reissue

of this Google Doc. We pulled a mulligan. And I didn't print that one. Well, also, we couldn't find a dongle. Well, that wasn't my fault. I thought that you were going to be like, again, you said you were going to be doing the John Cusack thing.

So that was the venue who promised you that they could find a dongle. They had a dongle, and there was no dongle. Great venue, the Ravy Club sucks. I think they were mainly MF family members that were very nice to me when I went up to them and said, do you have a dongle? Excuse me.

Do you have a dongle? Yeah. How many people recognize you then? Oh, I don't think I was very recognized at that event. Christopher Doyle, probably my former coworker. Maybe,

maybe one. I just want to, cause you're on Toronto. Mike, I just got to squeeze in before we wrap up. Yeah, whatever. I am here on the wall.

This song was going to the top of the charts, you know what other song was also in the top 10? Another CanCon forgotten gem that we heard last time we did this. Tell me. Love and Sass. Don't stop now. And I told you the story of Ricky Foggy. Hold that pass.

I'm on the mic with Love and Sass. There you go. What was that from? A Juno Awards. And that was Rocket Ishmael on stage, rapping with love and sad. I'm sure all these bands, TBTBT and rumble and the satellites and the rank and family.

You're the one. So Stu and I both loved safe by rumble. And you're the one who advised us that it was, it's just a song by a massive attack, massive attack. And that was a song that theoretically I could easily submit to this FOTM KOTJ episode. Songs I loved, but didn't initially know was a cover.

That's a great example. But again, is that a cover? Because it's not... It's an interloping of a song. I think it would qualify for this. Interpretation. Purpose. Andrew Ward says,

I bet it was a killer wedding. No doubt that the speeches were amazing. They were all right, Andrew. Actually, what I found interesting about the Cam Gordon MF wedding was the complete lack of drama. I don't know. I've been to a few Irish Catholic weddings

in my time. In MF, I believe Irish Catholic. There's a drunken uncle who says some stupid racist shit on the mic here at my wedding Humble Howard made fun of the Philippines

like I mean your there was no like no one went home and said you won't believe what happened at the

Cam Gordon MF wedding like it was just classy and nice and everybody seemed to like each other nobody got shit faced at least I left early because I had a long bike ride but other nobody got shit faced at least oh i left

early because i had a long bike ride but maybe people got shit face or later but yeah it was just a nice affair and i think that's the goal right well mike you mr you have loved us at the end we did a sort of uh end of the prom uh arms around each other to green day uh good riddance time of your life like high school children it. It was a lovely end to a lovely day. Do you know the name of that song? Good Riddance brackets. Oh, it was brackets. Parenthesis.

Parenthesis, yeah. Time of your life. Good Riddance. Also the last song on what? TSN? Seinfeld, maybe. That's right. That's right. It was also pretty famous

for being a part of the clip show that preceded the Seinfeld finale. I know you don't watch TV, so you don't know these things. What was the last show you watched? What was the last scripted show? Jeopardy. That's not really a scripted show. I mean, I know they write the questions. Oh, no, they write the answers.

It probably was Mad Men, like, honestly. Okay, it all comes back to Dole Boys. There you go, John Kastner. Yeah, everything after everything happy 25th anniversary to canada kev you're gonna hit 25 with mf absolutely you got a lot of life to live to make that happen hopefully we won't be needing this uh tape measure oh i didn't formally give it to you here is the ridley funeral home tape measure i know you uh collect these absolutely shout out to brad jones at Ridley Funeral Home.

I was told by, I think it was Midtown Gord maybe. I have a Festivus app coming out with Elvis. Elvis, who started the TMLX14 with us before he bolted. He made a long drive for that 15 minutes with Stephen Brunt. But apparently his dad had just died and he was over here for a Festivus episode. And he was talking about how his dad had just died and he was over here for a Festivus episode. And he was talking about how his dad had passed away. And for some reason I blurted out, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. And that was the birth of the shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.

It just stuck. It was in that moment and it stuck. And apparently that was a Festivus episode. If you can't laugh about death, what can you laugh about? And now you know the rest of the story. And congratulations, Kev. That's 25 years. That's a huge milestone. But as I said, if I add up

my two marriages, I'm over 25 years. There you go. Congratulations to you. It's all about you. I stole Canada Kev's thunder by gluing together two different marriages. And that brings us to the end of our 1,394th

show you can follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky I'm at Toronto Mike I don't know Cam Gordon is on Twitter I'm on Blue Sky too I forget what my name is search Cam Gordon you'll find him but he's on he's Cam underscore Gordon on the

app form I'm on Yahoo groups slant chat. Look me up. Much love to all who made this amazing episode of Toronto Mike possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. I enjoyed my burst and thank you Great Lakes for, they just renewed for the next six months, by the way. So shout out to Great Lakes.

And they're going to host TMLX 15, which might be on June 27th from 6 to 9. And if MF and you don't show up, I'll be very mad. Absolutely. I'm generally there. And Palma Pasta will feed us. Shout out to Palma Pasta. Raymond James

Canada, they have the Advantage Investor Podcast. Moneris has Yes, we are open. Season five has dropped. RecycleMyElectronics.ca is where you go. And Ridley Funeral Home, our pillars of this community. See you all tomorrow when Cynthia Dale, I can't believe I'm saying this,

Cynthia Dale is going to just drop by and hang with me, and we're going to play her 10 favorite songs of all time. Absolutely. Are you jealous, Kim? Any orgy, Blue Monday? No. Stay tuned. See what I did there?

We're going to kick out the orgy. Shout out to Baby Stewstone. And your smile is fine and it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and green Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it

much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true because everything is coming up rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow Warms us today

And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is Rosie now Everything is Rosie Yeah, everything is Rosie and Gray

Yeah Yeah, everything is rosy and gray.