Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Canadian Covers of Non-Canadian Jams: Toronto Mike'd #610

Episode Date: April 3, 2020

Mike kicks out Canadian covers of non-Canadian jams with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....

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Starting point is 00:01:19 I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me for their weekly pandemic jam kicking is Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? Stu, I have one question right off the top. Did you make yourself your coffee already? You, you, I have one question right off the top. Did you make yourself your coffee already?
Starting point is 00:01:48 I did. I did, but actually, that's funny that you should mention that. This is my first time drinking a coffee in bed. This is going to be dangerous. But my Keurig coffee maker, it doesn't work that great anymore. Something happens, and this is not a good time to have that stop working. All of the power buttons were lit up at one point, and I looked up online, and they said if you just mash the power button,
Starting point is 00:02:16 it'll, like, unclog whatever's going on. So I did that, and it did that. But now it's only brewing half cups. I've done the whole paperclip up the thing. Listen, if anybody who's listening knows how to fix a Keurig, hit me up. Well, I have read too that when you try to run a Keurig when you're recording a podcast, as happened a week ago,
Starting point is 00:02:40 that does short out the system. So maybe you want to keep an eye on that. And Mike, we're supposed to have Alice in Chains grind as the lead-in music. Remember I said we should ambush? I'm glad we're getting the elephant out of the room early.
Starting point is 00:02:57 The internet and Twitter was abuzz in the last week. But Stu, who you think is coffee grinder during our legendary episode, so you know, I think it's just good we're putting that out on the table. We can also move on and focus on coffee. Well, I'm just saying, like,
Starting point is 00:03:12 I'm going to need to get this fixed or it's going to be a problem. Well, Stu, you already grind your own beans. I know this because I heard you do it last week, which, by the way, was a highlight. More people referenced that moment than any other moment. There are people defending
Starting point is 00:03:29 your right to do so. I saw, I think it was Linda, like, stew's gotta be stew. I stand with stew. Linda knows. She knows. You already grind your own beans. Why don't you just do coarse grinds and buy yourself
Starting point is 00:03:48 right now, like on Amazon or something, uh, a French press and just do it with French press. Ooh, just consider it. I need to tell the people who cannot see us because we are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:01 I think it's a cowboy Bob Ordon. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I broke my wrist since our last episode. Well, thanks for asking, Cam.
Starting point is 00:04:11 It still hurts a lot, and I'm still in a temporary plaster cast, which weighs 100 pounds. On Wednesday, I'm going to get another x-ray, make sure it's aligned, the break, so that it heals aligned, the bones, which is important. Then I'm going to hopefully get a fiberglass cast, which I can show off to you next Friday.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I had that same injury as you did. Not, I didn't get it the same way you did, but actually I probably did, but, but, uh, you're, it's not a good injury. Thank you. Also, it makes you realize how much you need your hands because you're not there yet, but I see you broke your left hand, so maybe you'll be okay. But certain things are going to feel different,
Starting point is 00:04:57 and then even daily things that you take for granted. Whoa, that was weird. The government's listening on my phone. Even daily things that you take for granted. Whoa. That was weird. The government's listening on my phone. Okay, Stu, we can't quite hear that because as good as your mic is. Wiping your butt, I'm saying, is like, that's going to be different for you. Okay, well, I am right-handed, which you're right.
Starting point is 00:05:23 The good news is I'm right-handed and most of the things I got to do, the right dominant hand, that's going to be different for you. Okay, well, I am right-handed, which you're right. The good news is I'm right-handed, and most of the things I got to do, the right dominant hand, it's still fine. I have noticed little things, like picking up my four-year-old, for example, putting her on the toilet or something. Things like that are difficult right now. I will give you updates every Friday
Starting point is 00:05:38 through the pandemic on how things are going at the wrist. People cannot see us, but I can see you on Zoom. So I just want to tell people, Stu is lying in a bed. Are you comfortable? I am more comfortable than I was last week, that's for sure. And Cam's not in a bed. I am on a bed. That's cute. Now, can I just tell people there is actually a fourth person in the Zoom call. I want to introduce them. Your name, Cam, has three letters in it. Stu, your name has three letters in it. So I've invited to just listen in.
Starting point is 00:06:13 And if he wants to chime in, he can. But the gentleman who hosts this juicy MP3 file that you're all listening to right now, his name is Ian Service. Ian, just say hi to everybody off the top hey guys so ian cam and stew i have the longest name in this zoom call and that's four characters mike i'm starting things off on a sad note sadder than my broken wrist. Ain't no sunshine when she's gone It's not warm when she's away
Starting point is 00:06:53 Ain't no sunshine when she's gone And she's always gone too long Anytime she goes away Breaking news as we record. Bill Withers has passed away at the age of 81 years old. Is that COVID related? I think it was heart disease. I saw.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Not COVID related because Let's bring that down. heart disease I saw not COVID related because let's bring that down if it was that would be all over all
Starting point is 00:07:30 the headlines for sure so but Bill Withers 81 and I mean people will say lean on me
Starting point is 00:07:36 might be the definitive Bill Withers song but this is the Bill Withers song I always go to
Starting point is 00:07:40 any thoughts on the passing of Bill Withers yeah I mean yeah what can the passing of Bill Withers? Yeah, I mean what can you say about Bill Withers that hasn't been said? I mean certainly Lean On Me
Starting point is 00:07:52 his iconic song probably a lot of people of our generation perhaps learned about that song through the clues of Club Nouveau version which was great. This song you're playing, Mike, I think was also famously covered by I want to say Nina Simone
Starting point is 00:08:09 has a very famous version of this song. Club Nouveau, is Club Nouveau Canadian? Nope. I was going to say they could have been a good to pick today, but Bill Withers, obviously, timeless is the word I would use. You hear these
Starting point is 00:08:25 songs, they're so timeless and cinematic and classic songs. Just like, you know, that's not easy to do. So, rest in peace, Bill Withers. I actually have another jam I want to play, and I want
Starting point is 00:08:41 to ask Stu about this before we rock and roll here. Let me go switch tones here. Sounds so much like Smashing Pumpkins today. I know what song it is, but it sounds alike. It sounds like a lot of songs, actually. But yeah, it definitely sounds like the Pumpkins today. But we'll let my friend Biff rock here, and then we're going to ask... I love this woman.
Starting point is 00:09:39 I'm going to declare that. Another three-character name. Biff. Stu. If you're still with us. Did you make a movie with FOTM Biff naked?
Starting point is 00:09:56 Yes. Details. Well, I mean, that's private. He wants to talk about it. That's on her. I'm a gentleman. We were in a movie together called The Boys Club, ironically. And it was a movie with Devin Sawa, my friend.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Dominic Zampronia, a Canadian actor who was on General Hospital for many years after he grew up. Biff Naked, myself, Chris Penn, the late Chris Penn. Right. Basically like a stand-by me, but like the Canadian late 90s version. And she's not only in it, but her music is in it too. And the soundtrack for that movie, which would be very hard to find,
Starting point is 00:10:39 was littered with B-sides from Tragically Hip and Rusty and Doughboys and any grunge Canadian band of the time. What was the name of the movie again? It's called The Boys Club. Cam, have you ever seen The Boys Club? I have seen The Boys Club. I don't think I saw it in
Starting point is 00:10:58 theaters. I think it had a very limited theatrical run from what I recall. But yeah, I definitely saw it once it was out on VHS. It's a good movie, underrated. And again, like, especially now with Chris Penn no longer with us. I mean, he passed, what, maybe like five, six years?
Starting point is 00:11:16 Maybe longer. Oh, after. Okay. Yeah, after. Like, dude, this came out in, what, 96? Because I remember you leaving high school to go film this. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Wow. Can I ask, how was Biff Naked's acting? She was cool, man. She was, she was, now imagine Biff Naked then. She was like, you know, she was ready to kick some ass if she needed to.
Starting point is 00:11:39 But she was cool, man. She was a larger-than-life personality for us. We were kids. We looked at her like, holy shit, that's Biff naked, you know? Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:48 She's just like another level of badassery that you would never know. Like at that age, you never encountered anything like Biff naked. If you were, you know, before, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:59 15, 16, 17 year old kids. We were like, in awe of her. She was a, she was a legend to us. She's a legend now, Stu. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I haven't seen her. I don't think I've seen her since. But I remember having a great time, and she was a lot of fun, for sure. Here's what I'm going to promise to you before I have Cam introduce the premise for this jam-kicking. He's going to introduce the theme
Starting point is 00:12:23 for this week's episode. But first, I will promise for this jam kicking. He's going to introduce the theme for this week's episode. But first I will promise you this too. When this, this shite is over and things go back to normal, cause that's going to happen at some point when that happens, I will arrange an episode where you and Biff are here in the TMDS studios together. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:12:44 My heart just fluttered. And that's not from, you know, I don't have a regular heartbeat or anything like that. So this is very, very exciting news. And if Biff Naked is listening, I cannot wait for the reunion that everybody here, the Boys Club reunion, that is the most anticipated reunion in the history of this program. You could probably get Devin to dial in. You could probably get Devin to dial in. I could probably get Devin to dial in. Is he the same, pardon my ignorance,
Starting point is 00:13:12 is he the guy from Casper? He was Casper. He was Stan in the Eminem video, Stan, which is a legendary, iconic kind of role. He was in Final Destination. Personally, I've done three or four movies with Devin. I'm the godfather to his kid.
Starting point is 00:13:27 That's my boy. We met on that shoot. That's where I met him. I was doing the Boys Club with Biff Naked. So you, Biff, in studio, and we'll have Devin Sawa on. I don't know. I can't promise that he's going to call in, but I'll give it a shot. I got a dream.
Starting point is 00:13:43 I got a dream. That's all I got right now, dreams. Cam's about to introduce the premise, but how are you guys, all three of you, one by one. We'll start with you, Stu. Then we'll do Ian. Then we'll do Cam. I just want to know, how are you holding up?
Starting point is 00:13:56 We're a few weeks into this physical distancing, and how is your physical and mental well-being? Oh, man. Listen, I'll tell you one thing. Time is flying by like the last three weeks feels like one day. Like it just went by every day is Groundhog Day. I'm solo. I have no wife. I have no kids. I have no legs. And, uh, I, uh, you know, I, uh, I'm here. I'm not legs. And I, you know, I I'm here. I'm not going out for bike rides.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I'm not doing what you're doing. Yeah, see, that's, you shouldn't have been going on your bike. Oh, yeah. But I should remind you that no one can see me, so when I raise my cast like that, you gotta describe it. You know, I'm in here, man. And, like, the Trump stuff is like,
Starting point is 00:14:44 you know, that's entertaining for a while, but it gets old. I've watched the Tiger King. I'm done. I've finished Netflix. I've finished Pornhub. I've finished everything. I need new stuff. What did you think of Tiger King?
Starting point is 00:14:55 People are talking about it. It's great. Listen, it probably could have been told in three episodes, but, you know, the Netflix models to try to keep someone on there as long as possible. So give me six or seven or whatever it was. So they tend to never deliver on the ending. These Netflix shows I find anyway, like they're really sort of have peaks and valleys, but they're always sort of like it's seven o'clock in the morning. You've been watching for 50 hours. They
Starting point is 00:15:18 know that, and they just want it to end, but it is a great show. The character, as far as like seeing something that you can't even believe you're watching that is real, that's this show. It's like, holy shit, there really is people like this? So yeah, I definitely recommend it. It's really, really great in that sense. Okay, now, a new
Starting point is 00:15:37 rule for everyone on this, since I can see you. If you tug your ear, I know you have something to say, and then I'll throw it to you. Ian, just tell us, you have two young boys, I believe, and you have a wife in your social isolation chamber. Tell us how you guys are holding up. Yeah, I've got a seven-year-old daughter and a nine-year-old son, and they're screaming at each other right now. I can hear them like two floors up. But they've been very well behaved.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I was talking to a friend this morning, and the third week, now we're trying to, this is becoming a routine. So we're kind of getting over, it's that old 21 days to create a habit, right? So I think we're kind of like, this is the new normal. I think we're getting there. Well, glad to hear everybody's doing okay.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And you're calling us today from Guelph, is that correct? Yes, sir. All the way in Guelph. Now, Cam, how are you holding up, buddy? How are things going? And then introduce the premise for today's jam. Yeah, all good over here. Yeah, again, aside from my daughter and my girlfriend,
Starting point is 00:16:44 I'm not really seeing anybody other than the odd walk around the neighborhood but I mean it I live right downtown and the streets are like really a ghost town in general so it's good to see people in general taking this seriously
Starting point is 00:16:59 obviously some exceptions in the city yesterday they announced the new bylaws about gathering in parks and public squares but yeah i mean you know it's doing better than a lot of people i mean really so i feel very fortunate just talking to my mom and dad more talking to friends more uh never-ending uh text trails with two and several high school pals which always bring a smile to my face. Yeah, I mean, we're lucky to have all these tools to stay connected
Starting point is 00:17:28 with people, even if it's digitally for a time like this. And doing podcasts like this is part of it. So thank you again, Mike, for having us on. This is always the highlight of the week, for sure. Cam, are you more of a park guy or a square guy? It depends on the hour
Starting point is 00:17:46 of the day. Let's take that one offline. Alright, Cam. So last week, we did let me try to remember, we did covers of Canadian songs by non-Canadian
Starting point is 00:18:02 artists. That was last week, right? That's right. And this week's theme is the exact opposite. So these are Canadian artists covering non-Canadian songs. So it was interesting. I actually thought when we said, let's flip the script, let's get wacky. This would actually be easier to assemble this list. I think it's just because there's fewer Canadian artists. You know, you start thinking
Starting point is 00:18:25 you're to like, oh, Neil Young and Rush within five seconds. But I've seen some of the picks on the list. I made some of the picks on the list. A lot of good jams. I think we're very good at giving the people what they want and picking tunes that
Starting point is 00:18:41 most of the FOTMs out there will identify with. This will be a fun countdown as always. Again, I've seen your list of five. I've seen Stu's list of five. You, Cam, have not seen Stu's list.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Stu has not seen your list. Neither of you have seen my list. Ian has seen nothing. This should be a good time. Again, Show me yours, I'll show you mine, Ian.
Starting point is 00:19:15 This is what I got to say, man. Cam just said, you know, this wacky idea he had. If you thought last week was hard, this one was even harder. I would like to just come out front and ahead of it, and say I agree that this is hard. This was a tough subject for me.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I have a better time wrapping my head around other types of categories than this particular one. And although last week I think that my list was absolute dreck, to use the Yiddish word correctly, my list was absolute dreck. I used the Yiddish word correctly. This week, slight improvement, but still not my best topic. And I don't even know if you made a swap on one of my... No, I didn't swap it, actually. I kept your original five.
Starting point is 00:19:57 And one of your five, by the way, again, in true Stu style, one of his five is ineligible, but we'll get to that. I do want to say a fun comment that came in after last week's episode was wondering, will Stu ever pick songs he actually likes?
Starting point is 00:20:12 Yeah. The tradition continues of me picking songs that I don't like because I'm being forced into a corner. I'm being forced to stick a square peg into a circular hole. And I'll say for my picks, I only like 80% of them. There's one song I actually don't like, but I thought
Starting point is 00:20:27 it would be fun to rip off of. I think we'll probably know which one it is within about two seconds. Now, I promised Stu, Cam, I should just let you know and the listeners know that I promised Stu that next week's topic is his choosing. So, Stu Stone
Starting point is 00:20:43 is picking the theme for next Friday. Have you thought yet, have you thought about what next Friday's topic is his choosing. So Stu Stone is picking the theme for next Friday. Have you thought yet? Have you thought about what next Friday's theme is going to be? No. I mean, I have ideas. I've taken some requests from some of the listeners as well. I know that a lot of people are rooting for wrestling themes. But we'll see.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I will let you know shortly. But, Cam, for the people who are listening, we're on zoom right now, which is, I hope it's a better experience for everybody. But Cam, if you're a first, if you go to the top of your screen here, there's like a speaker view thing. You can switch, you can switch your view to a much, like you can see all of us at the same time if you want in gallery view.
Starting point is 00:21:28 Oh, I'm going to do that too. Gallery view, now we can talk to each other. It's through an IT here. I've been doing hand gestures and stuff and Cam's not laughing, but now I see why. Now he's giving us a seat. Now. Okay, gentlemen.
Starting point is 00:21:45 15 jams to go through. Again, these are songs from originally by originally originally by a non-Canadian artist that was covered by a Canadian artist. I'm going to do Cam, then I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:22:01 Stu, then I'm going to do mine. We're going to do Cam's first jam right now. Oh! This is a great, great cover. Celebrity. Baby, when I met you there was peace unknown I set out to get you with a fine tooth gum I was soft inside, there was something going on You do something to me that I can't explain
Starting point is 00:22:48 Pull me closer and I feel no pain Every beat of my heart We got something going on Tender love's blind Requires a dedication All this love we and fear needs no conversation okay so this is uh i thought this would be a good one to start because obviously a uh well half of a kenny rogers cover who he just lost and this is um this fight with the constantines or it might be built to fight the fry web Webb who's the singer from the Constantine's
Starting point is 00:23:27 covering Islands in the Stream the Dolly Parton Kenny Rogers classic obviously a very down tempo version I think this appeared on like a paper bagged record compilation maybe their
Starting point is 00:23:42 10th anniversary great cover honestly listening to this it makes me realize how much i miss concerts having seen spice and the constantines independently many times over the years um yeah it's almost like a very melancholy version of this song but i think it's generally fairly upbeat even though it's kind of got the ships in the night thematic in the lyrics there um you guys like this cover the the you know the original is obviously a classic a big karaoke classic as well what do you guys think of this version of the song? Well I'll say that uh you know the idea of taking an upbeat, generally happy kind of song and turning it on its head and doing sort of a brooding, sort of somber, melancholy version of it is nothing new to me and to this reporter. But this is a very good cover. First time I'm hearing it. And I can see it being in a movie trailer or a movie or something. Like maybe it was recorded because they couldn't afford to get that. You know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:45 The Boys Club 2. Yeah. This is very good. My first time hearing it. And I like it. Also, fun fact, obviously, you know, Proz and Old Dirty Bastard and Maya covered the song as well for Ghetto. That's right.
Starting point is 00:25:00 Very good. This version seems to be slightly better than that as well. By the way, not to get off base, but did the baseball player Kenny Rogers make a statement when the other Kenny Rogers died? I meant to look that up. Like, I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just curious because they were so inexplicably linked.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Well, Stu, you're the expert. Did you hear anything from Kenny Rogers, the baseball player? I've not heard from Kenny Rogers. I've not heard from Kenny Sim. I haven't heard from any of the Kennys that I know. I went to high school with a Kenny Rogers. Is he okay? I haven't talked to him in a while,
Starting point is 00:25:33 but he actually also played for the Michael Power Trojans baseball team. I saw an amazing meme. I even shared it with regards to Kenny Rogers passing and saying Kenny Rogers passing before his COVID crisis was the most know-when-to-fold-it moment possible. Pretty much. That's pretty profound. Yeah, legend.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Kenny Rogers, legend. Not only in music, but in chicken and, you know, just his, when we were kids, the only country star we knew was Dolly Parton and Kenny Rogers. That's it. There was no other one. Maybe Johnny Cash. I feel like it was also a shorthand
Starting point is 00:26:13 any time you'd see an old guy with a white beard. Yeah. If you weren't calling him Santa Claus, number two on that list would be Kenny Rogers, so he really owned the white beard lane. Absolutely. Now, I have to ask Stu and Cam, if you guys listened to my phone
Starting point is 00:26:31 call with my mom when Kenny Rogers passed away, did you guys ever hear that? I'm going to find out now if you're subscribed to Toronto Mic. What happened to her? Did she cry? You got to listen. I phoned her up because she was in 14-day isolation and told her about Kenny passing
Starting point is 00:26:47 and then we talked about it. And it's quite the emotional episode. It's a bonus episode of Toronto Mic'd on the Toronto Mic'd feed. The title was for Kenny and then the subtitle was but really it's for my mom. So go listen to that if you have like 10 minutes one day.
Starting point is 00:27:03 I've had a lot of i'm like my days are filled right now but i'll try to find squeeze it in there yeah yeah i think the difference in the uh how much time you have during this uh experience has everything to do with the number of dependent children you have yeah so i mean ian who i can see in the top left corner of my screen now and i we have two kids who are well my kids are more dependent than his kids but they're all it's basically because they're stuck home with us uh there it's a lot of work i feel uh busier than i ever have but enough about that let's play stew stone's first jam
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Starting point is 00:28:14 I was dreaming while I drove The long street road ahead But taste your sweet kisses, your arms open wide This fever for you is just burning me up inside I'm troubled now to get to you Okay, so I Nice to turn that down The owner of Nichols Let's just say something real quick here
Starting point is 00:28:52 Cam Selection Which took an upbeat, fun song And turned it on its head And made it nice and broody and artsy This did not take a page from that This is the original Cyndi Lauper offering No, no, no, no is the original Cyndi Lauper offering. No. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:29:06 It's not Cyndi Lauper. She covered it. Roy Orbison, but I'm saying Cyndi Lauper's version was a popular one that I remember. Upbeat. That's the one that I was referencing here. In its upbeat nature, it looks like Celine Dion, even Roy Orbison, sure. Celine Dion took that and made it into a Cher Do You Believe type of vibe.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Sort of a nightclub for older folks type of vibe. A sweating to the oldie sort of vibe. Or like a swinger's closet, you know. Maybe that's what it looks like. It's a banger though. I was watching the screens and I was like, this is a jam listening to. It's a banger though, man. I was watching the screens, man. I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:45 this is a jam. It's pretty fun. Fun fact, I tried to replace this song on my list with... Why do you do it? Why do you do it? It's the Lean Beyond classic I Am Your Lady, You Are My Man, which I thought might have been more of a
Starting point is 00:30:01 an option to serenade. But this is I drove all night. And this goes out to all the hardworking men and women who are driving the trucks, who are keeping the food chain going, who are delivering the groceries, who are making sure that this country and the whole world can continue to run.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And they're driving all night, and this is for them, damn it. Love it. Frontline workers. That was moving, like legitimately moving. I felt like verklempt. Is that how you say it, Stu? Some people who are listening to this might be in their truck right now. God bless you if you are. That's 100%.
Starting point is 00:30:38 By the way, the original version of this, the Roy Orbison, you guys have heard that, right? It got lots of radio play on Q107. Yeah, and it sounded like ZZ Top. It sort of had that driving, almost very synthesized.
Starting point is 00:30:56 It was really, really kind of a weird song. It's from that era where we talked about before where they dusted off all these old guys and brought... Roy A&Rs had no imagination. Roy Orbison had like modern production to his stuff in that era. Yeah, like George Harrison and
Starting point is 00:31:11 you had all these old timers kind of with, you're right, with I don't know, how old was Tom Petty back then? But he had Full Moon Fever around that time, right? Which was like his biggest album. Everybody, listen, we've talked about it. Steve Winwood, Bruce Springsteen,
Starting point is 00:31:28 Linda Ronstadt, all the greats. Foreigner, you know? Yes, absolutely. In fact, you mentioned, who did you just mention? Who are the artists you mentioned
Starting point is 00:31:44 there in that spiel there, Stu? Who are those? I mean, you mentioned an artist that triggered... Oh, yes, Steve Winwood. Steve Winwood's big hit at that time was Higher Love. Sure. Now a hit posthumously by Whitney Houston. Really?
Starting point is 00:32:06 Since when? Since, okay, it was on a beat, like a Japanese single B-side, okay? And some DJ dug it out of a crate like in the last 12 months, dusted it off and started playing it. And it's a bonafide, like new hit for Whitney Houston, her cover of Higher
Starting point is 00:32:25 Love. You can search that out and check it out. Real quick because I got all these things triggered these thoughts but Roy Orbison, that comeback album was fantastic. He had this amazing comeback album with a bunch of hits on it and then he
Starting point is 00:32:41 died. Yeah, like a week after it was released or something. I will say that the popularity, and I know we've argued this in the past, the popularity of the Julia Roberts Richard Gere film did not
Starting point is 00:32:57 hurt the second coming of Roy Orbison in any way. Even though it was 12 to 18 months apart. It didn't hurt because you're right. I'm not fucking getting into this again, okay? Just drop it.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Quick teaser. Of course, Roy Orbison was also in a little collective called the Traveling Wilburys, right? So one of my jams is a cover of a Traveling Wilburys, right? So one of my jams is a cover of a Traveling Wilburys song. Teaser. Don't even guess.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But let's play my first jam here. By the way, it's all about my mom today. Like the Kenny Rogers thing with my mom. But the other, the second favorite artist of my mom after Kenny Rogers is this band. There's a light A certain kind of light is this band. I want my life to be here with you.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I want to be with you. There's a way. I hear everybody say. Just do everything that I can. Just to do everything that I can But what good will it do If I can't have you If I can't have you Baby
Starting point is 00:34:40 You don't know what it's like No, you don't know what it's like You don't know what it's like No, you don't know what it's like To love somebody To love somebody Without love Love seeing those lighters in the air.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Good job, Cam. That is, of course, Blue Rodeo. To love Somebody. Who wants to name the original artist? Was it like Sam Cooke? Or like, it's a 60s? No. It's a 60s song, but it's by a band you associate more of the 70s. The Righteous Brothers?
Starting point is 00:35:43 The Everly Brothers? Dude, you gotta guess.g correct oh shit of course yeah come on cam you fucking idiot says the guy who uh thought that uh who did you think was a Canadian band there? You thought for a moment. Club Nouveau? Amongst the most prolific songwriters there is are the Bee Gees. But also, of course, their big breakout Saturday Night Fever with the Young Kids at that time. It still remains one of the greatest selling albums in the history of music. So good to them.
Starting point is 00:36:21 albums in the history of music. So good to them. Blue Rodeo is a band that as you get older, you appreciate the hell out of Blue Rodeo. They're sort of like goat cheese. You know, when you're a kid, you think it's like, yeah, I don't know about this stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:36 When you get older, all of a sudden, goat cheese. Oh, they have goat cheese? Yeah, put that on there. Yeah, it's like mustard. My kids, all of them hate mustard. And at, all of them, hate mustard. I remember hating mustard as a kid. At some point, you
Starting point is 00:36:51 lose the ketchup and just go with mustard. Yeah. I think Blue Rodeo is really, really great. I always thought if they were marketed differently... I've spoken to some music nerds about this. They could have been like a Wilco,
Starting point is 00:37:09 like kind of an alt country. Cause they, they would, they would jam out, you know, they were a bit trippy, you know, Jim Cuddy's talk very openly about,
Starting point is 00:37:17 you know, kind of some experimental. He's a handsome man. Like he's a handsome front man. Yeah. Yeah. Like great dynamic, very musical. Like they, you know, just? Yeah, great dynamic. Very musical.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Just some really great... That time was down. It's obviously not like Bill Withers, but their songs, their big songs, I have no issue. They sound like they could come out today
Starting point is 00:37:42 and still be as good as they were. Agreed. Yeah, they're one of many Canadian bands I often wonder why they weren't bigger south of the border. There's a whole long list of them, and these guys are front and center. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:58 I feel like they did have a hit, though. They had a hit that crossed over in the States. Which one? I don't know. They had to. I don't think they did. I don't think they ever did anything. It's just shocking. It hasn't hit me yet. That's not their song? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Yeah, that's them. They've had monster Canadian hits, so it's hard for us. I mean, Stu, you're the best guy to be the judge of this. You actually lived in the States, right? How long did you live in the States for? What's their big song that It's escaping me right now. Lost Together? Yeah, yeah. That had to have been in a movie or something.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I don't know. That was like a wedding classic. That would be people's first dance. I went to weddings. That was the first song or the first dance. Speaking of dances, I still remember when the old Dusty DJ, I don't know if it was Brian Master or not, but the Dusty DJ that we hired
Starting point is 00:38:45 for my grade school dance pulled out this new 45 and he said, I'm going to play a new one for you. And it was Blue Rodeo's Try. And I'm telling you, love it first listen. It's still, although I like Diamond Mind probably as my favorite, but Try, still amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Okay, now did you guys follow my thread this week on Twitter? Canadian music, this is partially inspired by our podcast. Canadian musicians who appeared in videos for other Canadian musicians. I caught a bit of it. Try was on the list. So do you remember who appeared in the Try video? Can I guess?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Holly Cole. Great guess. I think pretty close. For the sake of brevity, I guess? Holly Cole. Great guess. I think pretty close. For the sake of brevity, I'll just tell you and I'll tell Sue who's still reclining. By the way, Ian, just tug on your ear if you ever have something to say.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Ian knows who it is. It was Michelle McAdory I think is how you say her name, from Crash Vegas. Wow. Yeah, who's also the niece of Bob McAdory. 1050 Chum, great. And of course, I remember from Global Entertainment News.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I have to tell you, Cam is making funny faces on the Zoom. The vocals on Try are much different than the vocals on their other songs. It's one of those, like, well, last week we didn't know that the Smashing Pumpkins were singing Cinnamon Girl. It's like that, when you hear Try, it does not sound like the same guy that's singing the song you're doing right now. I think one day we should go live on Periscope where we all just, together we all sing Try. Don't tell me I'm wrong. But I've been... I like the part where he goes,
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh baby, you try. Because he holds it for that extra beat and you're like, give it to me, man. Give it to me. I feel like the Oh baby, you try line was in a Chum FM commercial. This is what we're playing on Chum FM. Roger, Rick, and Marilyn?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. That was two's ringtone for like three years. Gents, we've got to get to the Cam Gordon jam number two. Oh, I should have known you'd bid me farewell But there's a lesson to be learned from this And I've learned it very well Well, now I know you're not the only starfish in the sea. If I never hear your name again, it's all the same to me. And I think it's gonna be alright.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yes, the worst is over now. The morning sun is shining Like a red rubber ball Okay, so this is The Diode, one of the original Toronto punk bands, covering a song by a band called The Circle. I don't really know what that is. Red Rubber Ball, which was, I guess, like a late 60s, early 70s hit.
Starting point is 00:42:03 And we were actually talking about this song last week, Stu and Mike. This was, I think, by like Tom Rivers and the Rivers Air Force had a parody version of Red Rubber Ball. That was like a Leafs playoff song. Talk about going to Edmonton. You were talking about it, Stu. Like it would reference like Esa Tikkanen or like Yari Curry. Yes, it's going to be our right. We're going off to Edmonton You were talking about it Dude Like it would reference Like Esa Tikkanen Or like Yari Curry Yes it's gonna be alright We're going off to Edmonton
Starting point is 00:42:29 We're going off to Edmonton Yeah Wow I think it was this song Was it not? Am I imagining this? You might be right Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:37 Not that I mean again The Diode version was I think A very minor Um But yeah The the original. Right for parody. You think Biff Naked likes
Starting point is 00:42:48 the diodes? For sure. I think so. The diodes are well, legendary is maybe a strong word, but well remembered by certain facets of the Toronto music community. I love this cover. Great Dan actually saw them live.
Starting point is 00:43:04 They reunited a few years ago. I saw them at. Great band. I actually saw them live. They reunited a few of the guys. I saw them at the horseshoe. Amazing because when you talk about punk in Toronto, you have to mention this band and the definitive song by the Diodes,
Starting point is 00:43:13 I believe, which I think is actually probably their best jam, is Tired of Waking Up Tired, which you'll still, I don't know anymore, but back in the day, CFNY might play it
Starting point is 00:43:23 on like a, I don't know, on a Sunday morning. I don't know when they would back in the day, CFNY might play it on like a Sunday morning. I don't know when they would stick the good stuff. But Tired of Waking Up Tired, dig it up. A Toronto punk classic. Absolutely. And definitely more of like a power pop
Starting point is 00:43:38 sound than like a more gnarly, viola tone type gnarly punk sound. Right. By the way, just for those keeping score at home, I believe round one went to Mike. No, we should let... Ian should be the... He's objective.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Ian, who won round one? I don't know. I'm just enjoying the... Okay, Stu's in charge then. Stu, who won round one? Ian looks like he's in the womb. I think I'm the most objective person here. So I would like to say that Mike definitely won the first round,
Starting point is 00:44:13 Cam coming in second, and Celine, I drove all night, sputtering to third place. You know what, though? You're very self-deprecating, so we're not sure you're objective. I feel like you're always putting yourself down. Stu, go grind some coffee beans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:30 All right, let's play Stu's second jam. Uh-oh. Any moment now. You know, I should have clipped this from it, but here it comes. It's worth the wait. I could start dreaming, but it never ends. As long as you're gone, we may as well pretend I've been dreaming Straight from the heart
Starting point is 00:45:10 You say it's easy, but who's to say That we'd be able to keep it this way But it's easier Coming straight from the heart Oh, give it to me Straight from the heart Tell me we can make another start Great pick, Stu. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Fun fact about this song, okay? You want some fun facts Yes please Hook it to my vein On a previous On a previous visit To this show I played
Starting point is 00:46:14 When I kicked out the jams What a Fool Believes By the Doobie Brothers Which is an Unbelievable song But They didn't release it first Kenny Loggins released that first.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Of course, Kenny Loggins appears on the second version. Essentially, they're, you know, almost covering their own song. Michael McDonald wrote the song with Kenny Loggins and then sort of covers it. That's what's happening here. Bryan Adams wrote this song, but he wasn't the first person to put it out.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Does this qualify, Cam? We gotta talk. I don't think this qualifies. Bonnie Tyler put this song out. That's her song. Ian, you know what to do. Hang up on this guy. That's an American artist.
Starting point is 00:46:57 Okay, slow down, though. But Brian Adams, this is his song. Brian Adams' song. This is in the gray area. This is a cover song of another artist, but she put it out and it kind of flopped, so he put it out and it went to number one.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Yeah, but it's his song. I feel like there's a spirit to this. There's a spirit to this theme that you violated. I feel like Ryan Adams was actually born in the UK. He grew up in Canada, but I think he was actually born in the UK. Like he grew up in Canada, but I think he was actually born in England.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Oh, like Ron McClain being born in Germany. Yeah, exactly. Listen, if you disqualify the song, go for it, but it's still a great fucking song. So I'm sure the audience is happy that I put this on. No argument on that front, but that means you might have broke the rules in two of your five choices.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I'm an idiot for volunteering these fun facts, because before I told you that, you guys were all bobbing your heads, chasing my ass, saying how great the song was. I didn't know it was a cover. When I give you a fun fact that he covered his own song... Not bad, Cam. Let's allow it. Yeah, why not?
Starting point is 00:48:02 We're going to allow it, because I love the song so much. Great choice. But here's a fun thing that you mentioned, Kenny Loggins, who's a Kenny just like Kenny Rogers. And then I thought about Michael McDonald singing that song you chose. Michael McDonald is the other guy you reference when you see a guy with a white beard. Yes, that's right. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:48:21 So it's all full circle. What a voice, though. What a voice, Michael McDonald. Did he sing for Chicago, too? No. But he pretty much shows up all over the place on many albums. Christopher Croft famously, his big song. Really?
Starting point is 00:48:39 No, no. The one about running to the border of Mexico. Ride with the Wind. Okay. Michael McDonald shows up in there. Warren G, Regulate. He shows up in Kenny Loggins' If This Is It. He did provide lead vocals for one of three studio tracks on a Chicago album.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Oh, really? Then I didn't know that. So what song was that? Oh, you're putting me on the spot, Stu. Let me dig into that. Talk about something else and I'll get know that. So what song was that? Oh, you're putting me on the spot, Stu. Let me dig into that. Talk about something else and I'll get back to you. I'm a big Chicago head.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Yeah. You're also a street player. Okay, it was Chicago 26. Yeah, see, that doesn't count because that's like
Starting point is 00:49:20 Chicago, like an album from last year. Chicago's a weird band where they've had like 12 different iterations, each one very, very different. It's like a collective, like Steely Dan maybe? Did Michael McDonald do anything of Steely Dan? Yes, for sure he did.
Starting point is 00:49:36 For sure, for sure, for sure. Okay, I might be confusing Chicago and Steely Dan. But Chicago, there's a documentary that CNN put together called Chicago, which is on Netflix and it is required viewing you hear a band like that and you wouldn't think cocaine but boy oh boy there's lots of it like they're singing all these soft love songs it's like uh James Taylor-ish in a way where like you don't figure him to be with that type of music that type of uh party animal Peter It's like Peter Cetera.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Peter Cetera, yeah. The big hit was, they had a big song in the mid-80s. You're My Inspiration? That's the one. But that was already when David Foster came in and sort of ruined the band. Did that song Look Away?
Starting point is 00:50:20 But I don't think that was Peter Cetera. Look Away and after Peter Cetera left. Was it like Lou Graham or someone? I don't know but that's a good song. Yeah. I like learning about like Stu has this
Starting point is 00:50:30 deep knowledge of like Chicago. 70s Chicago is one of the best bands you could ever imagine and to think that all these guys made money it was like a
Starting point is 00:50:38 13 piece band and for them all to become millionaires they had to sell a lot of records. Right. They're still touring to this day.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Yeah. A version of Chicago. Well, still got the horns players. All you need is the horn players. Now, my third jam, and then you have to declare a winner for this round.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Sorry, Mike, one quick thing. Just one quick thing. Sorry. Never apologize. Please just bury me in fun facts. Peter Cetera was the bass player of
Starting point is 00:51:05 Chicago, right? He's like the Paul McCartney of Chicago. Wait, that was the... He leaned right into the Zoom call to get that fun fact. With purpose.
Starting point is 00:51:21 That's a disappointing fun fact. If you ask today's generation who's the bass player for the Beatles, they're not going to know that it's a disappointing fun fact. If you ask today's generation who's the bass player for the Beatles, they're not going to know that it's Paul McCartney. I'm here telling it like it is. They might know by process of elimination. I have a song. Again, I mentioned
Starting point is 00:51:37 Traveling Wilburys earlier when we talked about the legendary Roy Orbison. This is a cover of a Traveling Wilburys song by a Canadian band. Let's kick it! Let's kick it! We'll be right back. The headstones. The headstones.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Kingston's Own. What do we think of this jam? I think it's okay. I don't know if I love this song, but yeah, it brings back some memories. 2107. The 90s. It's not a cam jam.
Starting point is 00:53:05 There's also a Rolling Stones monkey man, different song. And the specials, the not a cam jam there's also a Rolling Stones Monkey Man different song and the specials the God track Monkey Man so this is a song I thought for a very long time
Starting point is 00:53:12 I thought it was a Headstones original like for a long time like too long I'm embarrassed to tell you how long and then there's only a lot
Starting point is 00:53:20 that subject matter seemed very consistent with other lyrical content of other originals. Yeah, and it's an early Headstones radio jam, and it's a good one. I actually really like the Headstones, and I really like this song. But then I found out it was a Travelling Wilburys song, and it almost broke my brain that this was the Wilburys. End of the line.
Starting point is 00:53:42 But I dig it. End of the line. I dig it. The Headstones have really endured in popularity. I still see them out touring. I don't know. Who's the bigger band today? The Headstones or The Watchmen?
Starting point is 00:54:03 That's hard to say. Wow. I don't know you stumped me I'm sort of at a loss you gotta toss aside any biases because we have to fully disclose that you're very close to the drummer in the watch that is true although I do see Hugh Dillon in my neighborhood periodically I feel like he must live
Starting point is 00:54:21 very close to me fun fact when Chicago was struggling in the past periodically. I feel like he must live very close to me. Fun fact, when Chicago was struggling in the past, Peter Cetera came with the song, If You Leave Me Now. Great song. And once they rejected it,
Starting point is 00:54:37 once they recorded it, it put them back on the map, back on top of the mountain, and that's when his head started to swell, they say. His head stoned, if you will. Yes. by the way the famous toronto mike story is that uh hugh dylan was booked locked and loaded i had the songs loaded up i had my notes in place i'm literally at the window staring outside waiting for hugh to arrive and then the pr person said uh i think they got a better like a better exceed i don't know breakfast television or something, and they went with that instead. And that's when I made my famous no PR people rule.
Starting point is 00:55:11 I hate to say, Mike, I don't know if you're aware, he was actually on the Alan Cross podcast recently. Alan started to bust my style. I'm just Alan, good FOTM, but I believe he is changing ongoing history of new music to do a bit more of the long-form deep dive with musicians. And I believe I had a great deal to do with that inspiration. You're the inspiration.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Good callback. Just like Peter Cetera and the members of Chicago hate each other, you and Alan Kroc hate each other. Actually opposite, and this is the truth. I could pick up the phone right now, he'd answer, and if I said, you want to do a Zoom tonight? He'd be like, Mike, absolutely. Alan and I have an awesome relationship.
Starting point is 00:55:59 I could see. And I'm good friends with the producer, the technical producer of Ongoing History of New Music, who I chat with often, Robbie J. Robbie J. Robbie J. So don't start a fight there. I'm only fighting with Dean Blundell and possibly Mike Stafford,
Starting point is 00:56:15 although I forgot about that one. Molly Johnson. I don't think so. Bobcat? Bobcat? I don't know. Am I fighting with Bobcat? Maybe. Actually, Mike,
Starting point is 00:56:26 I was talking to my mom and dad last night and they asked me specifically when is Bob McCallum going on the Toronto Dave podcast? Oh, Toronto Dave. They sort of are aware of you. They just can't remember your name. That's actually sweet. I always
Starting point is 00:56:42 wonder, now that everybody's at home and people are looking for projects, will a Toronto Dave surface in this time of pandemic? Wouldn't this be the time to... I think everything's up for grabs right now. Is Nadler launching a podcast?
Starting point is 00:56:58 Toronto Stew. Guelph Ian, I think, is launching tomorrow. Although Toronto Stew sounds like a mall food court. It's the worst restaurant in a mall food court. It's like goulash. Disco Stew. I don't know if it's eligible, but Cam, I would say that Stew won that round.
Starting point is 00:57:19 But I don't know if it's an eligible song. It's controversial. As a rule, it is a Canadian artist covering an American song. So the song was popularized by an American song. It's controversial. I mean... It is a Canadian artist covering an American song. So the song was popularized by an American artist. Was it though? Was that a hit? Or just an album cover? That was a
Starting point is 00:57:34 song. Just a recap. Okay, go Cam. Here's my macro thoughts on this. There have been like 10 trillion songs written and recorded over the years.
Starting point is 00:57:50 You had to pick up five. Yeah, so they might go in the margins. Why not just err on the side of caution? Fair, fair. You know, it's cool. I want to chime in too, before we play Cam's third jam. I just want to say that
Starting point is 00:58:05 it was written by Brian Adams, a Canadian. And it might have been recorded by an American before Brian recorded his Canadian hit or I don't know if that was a hit elsewhere. Maybe it was. It was a great song. But I can tell you I don't think the American version Who did it again, Stu?
Starting point is 00:58:22 Bonnie Tyler. She's a big singer. I don't think conversion. Who did it again, Stu? Bonnie Tyler. She's a big singer. I mean, that's hitting her sandbox. I don't think Bonnie Tyler had a hit with Straight From the Heart. Did you guys know what city Bryan Adams was born in? Can I guess?
Starting point is 00:58:37 I just looked it up. You have the answer? Victoria. No. Calgary. Kingston, Ontario. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Like Hugh Dillon and Gord Downie. Wow. Yeah. Today I learned. All right, my friends. I guess that round goes to Mike. I don't know. Tie.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I'll take a tie. I really like your Brian Adams song. I will say at the end of the day, it's a great song. It was a fun song to talk about. I think't know. Tie. I'll take a tie. I really like your Brian Adams song. I will say at the end of the day, it's a great song. It was a fun song to talk about. I think that's what
Starting point is 00:59:09 really matters here. I'm giving it to Stu. I'll take it. Okay. All right. Here's a big band, a big Canadian band. jimmy hendrix wait wait a minute what is it? What is it? Oh. Oh. I'm gonna raise a price, yes, I'm gonna raise a dollar.
Starting point is 01:00:10 About working all summer just to try to earn a dollar. Well, I went to the boss, man, tried to get a break. Yeah, this is like, come on song's got a great fucking dance. I don't know. For a cam pic, I'm a little bit disappointed. Well, I thought it was... I hate to say a good song at the moment
Starting point is 01:00:37 because I think we're all going to be feeling a version of the summertime blues in the coming months because of the world we live in. But this is Rush covering who was the original? Like Eddie Cochran? Summertime Blues? Buddy Holly?
Starting point is 01:00:53 I think it was Eddie Cochran. It was not Buddy Holly. Buddy Epston. Oh, this is a line from a song that's going to be kicked out today. That's another teaser. Buddy. Remember, this is a line from a song that's going to be kicked out today. That's another teaser. Buddy. Remember, this is for a callback later.
Starting point is 01:01:08 Buddy. Buddy. Okay. Is this song repeat, Tim? This is from their covers album. I believe it's called Feedback about like 10 years ago or so. That's what I was going to say. Like busting out new Rush. It's Eddie Cochran for the record.
Starting point is 01:01:23 As Canadian cover classic, busting out new Rush. It's Eddie Cochran for the record. As Canadian cover classic, bringing up, busting out new Rush songs. That report, it's just like, it was like, at least I'm picking songs that made an impact. A little hacky?
Starting point is 01:01:36 A little bit. A little bit. You're picking new Rush. Okay. Well, I mean, you know, we just lost,
Starting point is 01:01:42 Rush just lost their drummer, the great Neil Peart. I'm not disrespecting Rush. We're one of the greatest bands of all time. I'm disrespecting you, who is the king of the deep dive, that did like a shallow sort of swim to find this one. Gotcha. We don't judge. We don't judge on that level, do we?
Starting point is 01:01:57 Like, shallow swim. Like, okay. Well, you know what, Stu? I've heard you loud and clear. I've known you a long time. Well, you know what, Stu? I've heard you loud and clear. I've known you a long time.
Starting point is 01:02:06 And, you know, I think you need to drop the mask. Sorry, I can't go on. This is a great cover. That album's actually quite good, the feedback album. Yeah, it's from 2004. Yeah. Is it that old? 2004? Yeah 2004 yeah okay let's let it finish big here There are not that many three-piece bands that can make such a big sound.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Green Day. Rush, Nirvana. Green Day. Rush, Nirvana, Green Day. I mean, there's a couple of them. But Rush is probably the forefront. You know, they did it the loudest and the soonest. Yeah. Like a really versatile band, too.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Like they could ramp it up. Vocals. Everybody was the best at their instrument. Like they're the music nerd the king of the music nerds for each of their instruments and then they just one day say let's be a synth band and then they sort of own Synthesizer and sort of brought that into the 80s
Starting point is 01:03:38 and made it kind of cool too by the way Stu, did you know I should be giving him his home address like Alex Lifeson lived in in Richmond Hill off of 16th. I don't know if he still does, but during our heyday in York region, he was up there. I know Geddy Lee is from the Bathurst Manor. And his name is not really Geddy Lee. His Yiddish grandmother used to call for him to come inside.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Geddy! And everybody called him Geddy because of the Yiddish grandmother used to call for him to come inside. Geddy! And everybody called him Geddy because of the way she pronounced his name. That's a fun fact. Every single FOTM already knows, but that is a good one here. Did you know that, Cam? Of course you did.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Ian didn't know it. I don't think he listens to every episode. He just likes the Stu Stone episodes. He knows what's up. Can I just tell you something? It's a hacky pick. to every episode. He just likes the Stu Stone episodes. Cam, when you were... Can I just tell... I love it when you guys throw down at each other. Now, Cam,
Starting point is 01:04:32 when you were walking around your condo there or whatever, with your camera on you, with the headphones on you, I thought you looked exactly like Tom Green in the Jane and Finch Food City. Check the OR.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. Because remember that scene? He's walking around the produce section and the camera's right on him. Yeah. You look just like him in that scene. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I'll have to go back and watch that. I always thought it was a lobe. No, that was a food city because I was working at a food city. And I can tell you that was the Jane and Finch food city. And just to promote a recent episode of Toronto Mic'd, I'd like people to check out. Kish. Do you guys know Kish?
Starting point is 01:05:15 Of course. No, Japan. Do you know who was asking him, yo, Kish, you went to Africa? Do you know who that was? Is that Tom Green? Nope. It was the other guy with glasses
Starting point is 01:05:28 from Organized Run. No. Farley Flex. Maestro Fresh West's manager. And Kish was fantastic. He spilled a lot of tea. I don't want to give too much away, but he told me the exact dollar amount
Starting point is 01:05:44 he received for Organized, I mean, Order by Chaos, the big album with I Rhyme the World in 80 Days, and She's a Flirt, Let's Do It, which had Lucy from Degrassi in the video. I forgot about She's a Flirt. Let's dance the night away.
Starting point is 01:05:59 That whole album, he told me every dollar he received from that album. And he could count every dollar on one hand? You're not far off, my friend. We have talked about this before, Mike. I think it was one of the times I was on Solo, which those were the days.
Starting point is 01:06:17 But I know I would love to see like, I feel like this could be like a 10-part series for like the Globe and Mail or something. Just a real deep dive on how much Canadian musicians make, I think would be like fascinating because it does seem like it's sort of a taboo topic. That's something we all wonder about.
Starting point is 01:06:35 They wouldn't be able to afford the Globe and Mail to buy it to read their article. Yeah, sadly. Yeah, and this kind of ties in nicely with Rush because I was wondering, you two gents, I was wondering, did you ever care if a Canadian band you liked, did you ever care if they were liked beyond our borders?
Starting point is 01:06:53 Like, sometimes people will talk about the fact that Rush is globally beloved and they could go anywhere in the world and they could fill arenas across the planet here. But maybe a Blue blue rodeo or a tragically hip or a headstones or a watchman these bands had to stay in canada or they couldn't you know they couldn't even get like 20 people to come to a show possibly just just theoretically speaking did it matter to you if other countries embraced the Canadian musicians you loved?
Starting point is 01:07:26 I don't know if it mattered, but it would be very well publicized. Any sort of inkling of U.S. attention they would get. So like, for example, Pursuit of Happiness. Oh, Todd Rundgren produced their big album. You know, I feel like that's generally known or I remember people especially like when Day for Night came out like a lot of people would sort of
Starting point is 01:07:52 track the Tragically Hip attempts to break in the US whether it's when they went on Saturday Night Live or I remember they opened some shows for like Page and Plant around that time people seemed very fascinated about that specific topic, the
Starting point is 01:08:08 HIPs attempt to break in the U.S. Amanda Marshall would have a Birmingham and all of a sudden it would be a big hit in the States. Yes, that would be kind of the big spin on it at HIP. Or it would be like a soundtrack for an American
Starting point is 01:08:23 TV show or something. As somebody who's lived in LA and saw the hip there several times at small clubs where nobody was there except Canadian people, it was the best experience ever seeing them like that. But, you know, having everybody hung their hat on Rush and having Rush hang your hat on is not bad. It's like, okay, cool. Rush is the band you know us for. I'm okay with that. But obviously that has all changed because now in today's modern music marketplace,
Starting point is 01:08:53 Canadians are dominating the American charts for the last decade. You know, Drake and Bieber and The Weeknd and all these- Shawn Mendes. So, you know, I think that it's a different world than the one that when Lisa Bonet went to high school with Dwayne Wayne. It's a different world now. And Canadians dominate and it ain't no thing.
Starting point is 01:09:15 But back then when you're talking about this golden era. Right. Much different ballgame. And I think Rush is the only band anybody would ever say about Canada. And it took Rush a while to get cool again, right? Rush had their initial thing and then they were sort of like... Then they rolled the bones.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Then they did that cover of a cam play. Eddie Cochran. And it was all good again. Okay, let's see what Stu's got up his sleeve. Here's a jam from Stu Stone.
Starting point is 01:09:59 You are slow dancing right now with your loved ones. We see you leave a Femke in one. You'll be 40. Right. That's right. They did it better, right? Yeah. They did. They did it better, right? Yeah, they did.
Starting point is 01:10:25 They did. Speaking of Canadians that became huge successes in America, Corey Hart, this is his third single off that album. You know, he had sunglasses at night, never surrendered. This is a nice follow-up. Well, I was going to say the second artist today who's also a baseball player, Corey Hart of the Milwaukee Brewers.
Starting point is 01:10:51 Remember him? That should be an episode. We'll see how long this pandemic goes. Maybe that'll get the head. I got to say props. But Stu, you're dissing my man Cam because he went with Rush. Like how obvious.
Starting point is 01:11:02 Corey Hart. I love Rush. I'm just disrespecting his choice of like, you know, he's complaining about picking songs. He's picking new Rush. This is an old Corey Hart. Okay, if you're a Corey Hart head. Vintage Corey Hart. Yes. If you're a Corey Hart head, this is in the
Starting point is 01:11:18 top five of your Corey Hart song. If you're in the Hart Foundation. If you're a Rush fan, Ain't No Time For The Summertime Blues is not even on your fucking spectrum. Because I was going to say, your three artists so far are Celine Dion, Brian Adams, and Corey Hart. You can see where my head's at. And then, sorry, I might miss the memo. This is a podcast for like a Rush aficionados now?
Starting point is 01:11:39 Is that what we're doing here? Well, Rush, Mike, and James Edgar, a couple of FOTMs probably think it is. The Getty Gang? Like, what the fuck is this we're doing here? Well, Rush Mike and James Edgar, a couple of FOTMs probably think it is. The Getty Gang? Like, what the fuck is this we're doing here? I will say, around this era, it became quite popular to cover Elvis songs. I believe Cheap Trick also believed the single Don't Be Cruel. Don't Be Cruel?
Starting point is 01:11:58 That's right. I saw Cheap... I love Don't Be Cruel by Cheap Trick. I can tell you, I loved it too, and I thought Don't Be Cruel was a Cheap Trick original, but I was very, very young. Oh, I know another good Elvis cover from around the time, The Fine Young Cannibals, Suspicious Mind. Remember that?
Starting point is 01:12:16 Of course. Yeah, yeah, I do. Yeah. Nick, even The Bad Seeds in the Ghetto. You ever hear of that one too? Lots of good Elvis covers. Yeah. Nick, even the Bad Seeds in the Ghetto. You ever hear of that one, Stu? Lots of good Elvis covers. Yeah. Great.
Starting point is 01:12:29 When it comes to Elvis, I'm more of a Stoico, Costello type of Elvis lover. Oh, Costello for sure. More Wayne. Chuck Dino. You know, Wayne Ferris. Elvis was no friend at the time. You know, Elvis was a hero
Starting point is 01:12:46 to most, but he never meant shit to me. Yeah. That's another teaser for a future jam, buddy. I'm a honky-tonk man. What do you think of honky? That was a terrible offering from me, but I will say
Starting point is 01:13:02 that CFTR, possibly the Tom Rivers Air Force, maybe played that song. Love Tom Rivers. Shout out. Have you ever hung out with the Hockey Talk Man? I have. What's he like? He has.
Starting point is 01:13:20 He's a high. Spill the tea, brother. Listen, he's the honky tonk man He's as carny as it gets He's as carny as you can imagine Did he give you a guitar shot to the head after? I never was hit by a guitar You went for a table though
Starting point is 01:13:36 I did but that wasn't the honky tonk man Who did that to you? That was Matt Hardy Matt Hardy okay You've recovered Maybe that's why you're reclining That was Matt Hardy. Matt Hardy. Okay. Wow. Really? Okay. You've recovered. Maybe that's why you're reclining.
Starting point is 01:13:49 You're still in your world. People tune in for the wrestling chatter and they stay for the jams, I think. Here's my third jam. Looks like Mike's going to wrap up this round. Here comes Dick. He's wearing a skirt. Here comes Jean. You know she's born in a jade.
Starting point is 01:14:16 Same hair revolution. Same build evolution. Tomorrow's gonna fuss. They love each other so. Androgynous. Is this Crash Test Dummy? This is, of course, no one else has a voice like that. Androgynous.
Starting point is 01:14:40 If I had that guy's voice, I think his name is Brad Roberts, I think. I would never shut up, man. I've been talking about the Indian band that did well over there. Crash Test Dummies did extremely well. Alanis Morissette, around the same time, was over there. Yeah. Alana Miles had a big hit with Black Velvet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Yeah, this band had, I think, the big American hit was Mm-hmm. You think? Peter Pumpkinhead did appear on Was it Dumb and Dumber? Which soundtrack had Peter Pumpkinhead in it? Yeah, I think it was Dumb and Dumber That was one of my honorary mentions
Starting point is 01:15:14 Okay, a little more of this jam Then I'm going to talk about it So I had this CD, like many Canadians. It was called The Ghosts That Haunt Me. You know, that had the Superman once. No, that's a different song. That's right. This had the Superman.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Superman never made it any funny. I almost went into Our Lady Peace with the Superman song but yes that's the one saving the world from Solomon Grundy so this is a replacement song it's a famous song by The Replacements
Starting point is 01:16:01 called Androgynous and this is another great example of me having a CD and loving a song on the CD and not realizing for many, many years that it was a cover. I was listening to a podcast a few years ago and they were talking about a Replacements album
Starting point is 01:16:19 and they were talking about how much this album changed their life or whatever. And they said this person had a fluid gender, I think. I'm not using the wrong terminology, but their gender was fluid. And this song really spoke to them at a time nobody was talking about this, androgynous. And I heard them play this song by The Replacements. And it's like, I almost crashed my bike and broke my wrist back then.
Starting point is 01:16:43 I was like, that's a crash test dummy song what the hell and then i realized it was a cover i i feel like the replacements were not at all popular in toronto because you sort of read about the legacy of that band and i don't they just seemed like a band that were probably big in the US but sort of did not really do. I don't think CFNY ever played them even though they were, again, somewhat well-known. Not only are they... You're right.
Starting point is 01:17:16 Absolutely right, Cam. I would argue that the solo work of Paul Westerberg is more popular in this city than the replacements because they were on a single soundtrack. Dyslexic heart. is more popular in this city than the Replacements because they were on the single soundtrack. Yeah. Yep, dyslexic heart. I went to a concert, the Riot Fest at Fort York a few years ago
Starting point is 01:17:34 and the Replacements headlined. I don't remember if it was their first reunion show, but they headlined over a litany of other bands, including, I can trying to remember, we played Iggy and the Stooges and Dinosaur Jr. A lot of big... Wow. Dudes making some great faces.
Starting point is 01:17:53 I like Dinosaur Jr. Yeah, we all do. We all do. Yeah, they're replacing it's a big deal. This album, I think, Androgynous was Let It Be from 1984, which is a fantastic album. Yes, yes, yes. Now, Dinosaur Jr., did they do the cover of the Cure song?
Starting point is 01:18:14 That's right. They did Just Like Heaven. Right. They had a big hit, I think, on, I think maybe they had a much music hit with Just Like Heaven, which was a Cure song. And Feel the Pain. Feel the Pain, for sure. Feel the Pain.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Yeah, great song, Feel the Pain. Yeah. DJ, for sure. Yeah, great song, Feel the Pain. DJ Farbsi, a big Dinosaur Jr. fan. Even dressed up as one of their album covers for Halloween. Do you remember that, Stu? Now that you mention it, I do recall. He actually, this is Stuart's cousin that we went to high school with. He dressed up like the drawing on the cover of the Dinosaur Jr. album without a sound.
Starting point is 01:18:46 Everyone thought he was like Farf from Spaceballs. But he actually had the CD with him and anyone said, what are you, Farf? He would actually hold up the cover without a sound. And don't confuse Dinosaur Jr. with Don
Starting point is 01:19:01 Was Not Was and Walk the Dinosaur. Walk the Dinosaur, of course. You'd be pretty disappointed if you were confusing those two for each other. All right, guys, I got to get to Cam Gordon's fourth jam. Who won that round? I guess Mike. I don't know if we need to have winners. I feel like we should all be like in it for the spirit of it all.
Starting point is 01:19:38 Finally! Yeah, Doug Ford. I thought this sounded like Massive Attack. It's like there's a trip-hop thing going on. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can hear that. It is a trip-hoppy thing going on here. This, of course, is Anne Murray.
Starting point is 01:20:11 So this is Sarah McLachlan doing Dear God by XTC. I think this was originally on an XTC tribute album. I remember hearing this on the radio. Yeah, this was like a CFNY jam for sure back in the day. But are you talking about the XTC version? Because I, of course, that's a... I think both. Huh. I missed this on the radio, but it is a nice
Starting point is 01:20:31 cover. I was listening to it last night. Yeah, I'm pretty sure this got some airplay in a very controversial song back in the day because of its questioning nature by XTC. It's an atheist anthem?
Starting point is 01:20:48 Is that what this is? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, Mike, you mentioned Crash Test Dummies also covering XTC with a ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead over the last jam. So it all ties together. I mean, this is a good flow we got going on. And I think we've teased your final jam
Starting point is 01:21:11 in a couple of brilliant ways, I believe, by talking about Elvis being a hero to most, and Buddy. I like the Buddy exchange, so I'm quite proud of that one. Well, Buddy Hackett, you know. Buddy Ebsen. I actually Fun fact
Starting point is 01:21:26 There was a television show back in the day Called Cats and Dogs Is it a squiggly cartoon? No no no It was like a CTV show And it was Called Rin Tin Tin Canine Cop In the States
Starting point is 01:21:42 But I was on the show And I played like the best friend, and my character's name was Buddy. Okay, that is a fun fact. Was that modeled after Turner and Hooch? It was before Turner and Hooch. It's like a cop and his canine pal. It's like Little Is Hobo meets...
Starting point is 01:22:00 T.J. Hooker? Yeah. T.J. Hooker meets a German shepherd. Dude, you worked on Learning the Rope with Lyle Alzado, were you? TJ Hooker? Yeah. TJ Hooker meets a German Shepherd. Dude, you worked on Learning the Rope with Lyle Alzado, were you? I was. I wish I was. Oh, that's where Stephanie Kay went after Degrassi. Yeah, I was going to say there was a Degrassi tie-in.
Starting point is 01:22:16 All the way with Stephanie Kay. She left the great Degrassi franchise, which doesn't sound like it paid much anyways. But she left that for that CTV show of Lyle Alzado. I do. Well, and Mike, if you want to join in. I always thought Lyle Alzado was actually the stage name of
Starting point is 01:22:35 Ted Arsini. They had a similar look. Similar physique. Both of them probably used the same shortcuts to get there so my story with Lyle Alzado is I thought he was just an actor I was surprised to learn later
Starting point is 01:22:51 that he was a former football player one of the first major athletes to die and have steroids be brought into the forefront, like during the explosion of steroids in the late 80s, early 90s, Alzada was the first to go.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Is Tony Mandrich still around? I'm not sure. The Incredible Bust. Yeah. The Incredible Bust. Yeah. Wasn't Mr. Papadopoulos, like Webster's dad? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Yes, he was an NFL player. Yeah. Dick Butkus. OJ Simpson. OJ, yeah, he was an NFL player. Dick Butkus? OJ Simpson? OJ, yeah, that's a good one. Jim Brown? Jim Brown did a lot of acting. Football players were getting work. Jim McMahon?
Starting point is 01:23:37 Half of the Ed Tuttle Jones and his buddies in the WrestleMania 2 Battle Royale? William the Refrigerator Perry was a G.I. Joe? Who's the handsome guy on the Fox telecast who was in the movie with Travolta? Howie Long. What about Brian Bosworth?
Starting point is 01:23:54 Stone Cold with Brian Bosworth. There's a lot. This is an episode unto itself. I think we burned through it there. How about another stew jam? Here's a woman I'm hotly pursuing to visit the too many jokes there, but for, as a guest on Toronto mic, I would like this woman to come on, but let's play this jam.
Starting point is 01:24:21 People smile and tell me I'm the lucky one And we've just begun I think I'm gonna have a son He will be like him and me As free as a dove Conceived in love The sun is gonna shine above like an angel. And in the morning when I rise, bring a tear of joy to my eyes and tell me everything's gonna be alright. I'm back here. Cam Gordon, one time I believe Edgar have.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Wow, is that true, Cam? Okay, that is not true. Not entirely false either, though. Okay, no, it's completely false. She does, I believe, live in like Richmond Hill or Thornhill. And
Starting point is 01:25:36 yeah, I know where she hangs out. Just so she's a member of an organization. She's a member of an organization. She probably golfs with Alex Lifeson. Yeah, she's a member of a golf club up there. I'll just say that. Is that secret information? Because she's publicly out of the closet as an avid golfer.
Starting point is 01:26:05 Yeah. So who is this? I'm sorry, what's the name of the song? an avid golfer. Yeah. So who is this? And sorry, what's the name of the song? I know this song. I just, I don't know what it's called though. The name of the song. Tell us, Stu. I was going to let you handle it.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Danny's song. Oh, Danny's. I've heard Stu already mention the name of the original artist. And I think this is in one of Stu's sweet spots. Talk about it, Stu. Well, you know, this is before Kenny Loggins became the prolific writer that we know.
Starting point is 01:26:32 He was in a little outfit, a folk outfit, before he became Mr. Funk in rock and roll. Loggins and Messia. Messia. Messina. So this is one of when Kenny Loggins, before he transitioned to be like a cool badass motherfucker, he was a folk kind of guy. And Anne Murray, obviously, another Canadian that found huge success.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Of course, our generation would be more familiar with it. There's a hippopotamus in my bathtub or one of those type of Anne Murray jams. Animal crackers in my soup. And Rafi. But, yeah, she obviously was a huge crossover star, country pop. She had that signature short hair that you see so many women picking up and she's from Nova Scotia right she lives in Thornhill now
Starting point is 01:27:30 and Cam egged her house if she's wondering who egged her house in 94 Cam is the answer if I ever get her on the show I'm gonna open with that I'm gonna say was your home egged in 94 it was by Cam she's great Songbird Was your home egged in 94? It was, but I can't know.
Starting point is 01:27:46 She's great. Songbird was one of her big hits. She also had success with a Beatles cover. Right? Which one? You See Me? And You See Me? How does that go?
Starting point is 01:28:00 You Won't See Me. That one. South Park famously calls out Ann Murray in one of their songs on Blame Canada. They sort of throw in Ann Murray as a side in the song.
Starting point is 01:28:16 Okay, guys. I'm excited about my next jam. Okay. And it is my show. I'm taking over now. Okay, so this I'm going to play it and then I'll share the fun facts jam okay and it is my show i'm taking over now okay so this uh i have seen this is a uh i'm gonna play it and then i'll share the fun facts stew style but stewie i invented fun facts like now you've made it like this is a stew thing i've been doing it for eight years yeah well next time
Starting point is 01:28:38 i do one they'll be like oh you're you got that from stew stone sometimes the cover is better than the original. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. You get wild, wild, wild You get wild, wild, wild So you think my singing's out of time But it makes me funny I don't know why I don't know why Oh yeah, yeah I don't know why. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:30 So come on and feel the noise. Girls rock your boy. I think Stu Stone spent many years drinking in L.A. Is that correct? Okay. Just go with it. It's a joke. This is Brand Van 3000. Whoa 3000 whoa come on feel the noise i think it's from that same album that uh was drinking an la album i will say uh to be fair
Starting point is 01:29:55 this song had a lot more impact on careers when quiet riot covered it it launched them into the stratosphere it did not have the same effect here, unfortunately. And Oasis covered this too, as a B-side. But I always thought this was a Quiet Riot original similar to, you know... Bingo. And it's, of course, not the original, but, you know, they had the Jason mask
Starting point is 01:30:19 and they had all the branding. And this was the big song that launched Quiet Riot into MTV stardom. You're 100% right. This is a great example of a song I heard and enjoyed because this was the big song that launched Quiet Riot into MTV sort of. You're 100% right. This is a great example of a song I heard and enjoyed because it was a big hit
Starting point is 01:30:29 and I thought this was a Quiet Riot original. And then years later, I learned about a band that was much, much, much bigger in the UK than they are here. I don't ever hear them here. Maybe at Christmas time,
Starting point is 01:30:41 but Slade. Oh, Slade. Back in 1973. Was Slade Fox on the run too? Or was that Sweet? I think that was Sweet. Yeah, I don't know. But this was original by Slade,
Starting point is 01:30:56 but we are more familiar with the Quiet Riot version. But this, I quite liked the Brand Van 3000 jam that I've been playing here. Ian doesn't seem to be impressed. I'll be honest. I don't love it. It sounds like it would be from like a Pellet commercial or something. I don't know. Oh, but here, this is still it.
Starting point is 01:31:19 Wait, it's finishing strong for you here. Hold on. Some born slippy here, I think. I wish people could see you guys they gotta lay off the brand okay I guess I lost that round the guy from brand van the guy in the group went on to do some big things, didn't he?
Starting point is 01:32:08 You're confusing Soul... You're thinking of the chef. Roger Mooking? Yeah. From Soul... Bass is Bass. Are you confusing Brand Van? You could confuse those bands, actually. Bass is Bass had the
Starting point is 01:32:23 Soul Chef. Funk Mobile. Yeah, Funk Mobile. think you could confuse those bands actually uh bass is bass had the um run uh like uh the soul yeah funk mobile right riding in my soul yeah so that that band you're right the guy went on to become a celebrity chef and tv star he's been on the toronto mic program but brand band 3000 they're just no one now for drinking in la and i don't i don't know what they're up to but i think it was really like that was sort of a one person, like it was one main guy who was a producer and was sort of a collective of artists. Sort of like a Beck or a Prince or a Billy Corgan.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Or a primitive radio gods. As discussed on a previous episode. Nice call back. That was fun. I can't wait to find out what topics Stu picks for next Friday. I mean, we've already stumbled upon a great one that I'm thinking of now. By the way, sorry, getting back to primitive radio gods for a second. About one week after we did our show, I was in a car,
Starting point is 01:33:21 and I heard it on Indy 88 out of the blue. I couldn't believe it. Should you be leaving the home? I was in transit to get food. Oh, that's allowed. That's allowed. I'm only allowed to leave the house to get my,
Starting point is 01:33:39 uh, doctors to x-ray my broken wrist. Okay. Let's, everyone's got one jam left. What do you think about doing an episode? Just based. I mean,
Starting point is 01:33:49 it's sort of the easy way out, but I feel like it's a good transition from this, but playing songs, original songs that you didn't realize were like, not, Oh, this is like a song that I didn't realize was a cover. How about playing the original song and being like,
Starting point is 01:34:03 you bet you didn't know this was a cover. Here's the original. I like it. I love it, except I feel like we've already teased. Okay, let's do it. But I feel like a lot of the obvious ones have already kind of come out organically throughout the episodes. But even those obvious ones, the original versions, people haven't heard.
Starting point is 01:34:19 So are we going to play the original? We play the original, not the one that we know. The original. Okay, and that's what we play. Yes. Okay. the original, not the one that we know. The original. And that's what we play. Yes. Okay. Hey, I said it was up to you. You choose the next topic.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I'm fine with that. Okay. I just think after this, we will have exhausted covers, and we can move on to something new. Each of us chose a cover category. You know, it's in threes. Yeah. So, you know, now we know more covers after next week. It's like next week is the series finale of more covers after next week.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Next week is the series finale of the covers miniseries. Oh, I like that. There's themes in the themes. I like it. Yeah, okay. So let's kick out Cam Gordon's fifth and final jam. Yeah, let's go. And again, like, I don't love this song, but let's, let's, let's, let's rip on it a bit.
Starting point is 01:35:22 1989, the number, another summer. Get down. Sound of the funky drummer. Music getting you hard because I know you got soul. We know you got soul Listen what you're missing, y'all Swinging while I'm singing Giving what you're getting, know what I'm knowing While a black man's sweating In the rhythm I'm rolling
Starting point is 01:35:36 Got to give us what we want Got to give us what we need Our freedom of speech is freedom of death We got to fight the powers that be Let me hear you say, fight the power. Fight the power. Fight the power. Okay, so this is bare-naked ladies covering public enemy.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Fight the power. Let's get into this in a second. But, Mike, you're the resident PE expert. Did you see this thing that Chuck D kicking out Flavor Flav was an April Fool's joke? Was that accurate? Mark Weisblot shared that news with me, which means I know
Starting point is 01:36:10 it is accurate because he's got a good radar for bullshit. I believe it might be true. I don't know. Kind of stupid, though. Yeah, I mean... And not very Chuck D-ish. I feel like that's out of character. Yeah, but Flavor Flavor's been
Starting point is 01:36:26 sort of not with it for a while, and Chuck D wants to make a living, so he's got to be able to tour without Flavor Flavor. That's why they did the Public Enemy Radio kind of offshoot as a way to sort of circumvent Flavor Flavor being able to, you know, not be there. Fun fact.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Fun fact for Stu Stone, who I can tell doesn't know this. I'm looking into your eyes right now. Chuck D is an FOTM. Oh, he knows that. Okay, I'm sorry. When you went there,
Starting point is 01:36:58 I was at that event you were. Okay, my apologies. I underestimated you, Stu. I apologize. I will say that the Barenaked Ladies should not have covered that song. Well, they got a lot of flack for it. Yeah, it's just not... Cultural appropriation. I think what they were trying to accomplish on paper was probably a better idea on paper than it was in the end.
Starting point is 01:37:20 And in my career, I've made those types of mistakes too. I would say that this didn't come back to bite them in the ass and in my career i've made those types of mistakes too i would say that this didn't come back to bite them in the ass in any way because there was no big controversy that that i remember other than maybe a little grumbling here and there it's like yeah this was not it's not a good look no i'm with you 100 and it was uh of course it was a cut like the final cut i think on an indie cassette the yellow tape it never never did get to it never made it to Gordon, for example. Well, it was on the soundtrack
Starting point is 01:37:50 as I know, because this is where I grabbed it from Spotify. It was on the soundtrack to the movie Conehead. Oh, wow. That's a fun fact. When Barenaked Ladies first came on the scene, they did every gimmick in the book to try to get noticed including having the name bare naked
Starting point is 01:38:06 ladies and i remember there was like a controversy they couldn't play at melasman square unless they changed that name or some shit like that but uh bare naked ladies they made it man they made it this is not this was probably not their highlight of their career and and Cam Gordon picking this is shocking to me. I didn't... This is... Cam has just... This is his category, by the way. I really hit the bed on his category with two of his.
Starting point is 01:38:35 Okay, let's rewind the tape. What I introduced this on, I pre-faced it. I don't like it either. I just think it's an interesting song to riff on, and I totally it. I don't like it either. I just think it's an interesting song to riff on. I totally agree. This is not a great look. Ed Robertson has done many interviews where he said this song was
Starting point is 01:38:51 not trying to make fun of hip-hop music, expressing their naked love for it. This is sort of like their tongue-in-cheek fun kind of band that they could pull off any cover of a fun song because they're a fun band. But this was, as I said, probably best left in the rehearsal space when they were left.
Starting point is 01:39:08 This song means something. We all agree, I think. I think even Ian Service agrees in his Pink Panther hideaway. The fact that you would even pick a Barenaked Ladies cover song in general, what kind of hack thing is that? Barenaked Ladies cover songs?
Starting point is 01:39:24 Who does that? Wow. I really like them from the moment I bought the yellow tape. They would be on Speaker's Corner doing Yoko Ono in their big sweaters and I liked them. I just think that's
Starting point is 01:39:39 a great band. That's a great example of a band that seems to... They were big here, then they had US success and then I feel like maybe we, not we, but the Royal we, like them less because of their US success. Is that possible?
Starting point is 01:39:55 Yeah, I'll say that and Stu, I'm going to have a little rebuttal here for you. I've gotten feedback from the entire production team at Toronto Mike Studios. When I've come out on past and I've gotten feedback from the entire production team at Toronto Mike Studios when I've come out on pass and I've chosen more obscure songs by some bands that
Starting point is 01:40:12 I'm very fond of that maybe the broader FOTM universe is unaware of. And I've really tried to pick songs when I come on. You shut your mouth. I'm not done talking. You have your time to talk now it's my time to talk I
Starting point is 01:40:29 I think it's a song that I think are going to be interesting and provocative and known to the Toronto Mike FOTM universe that's what I did I told you I didn't like this song if you can't deal with it you can take it up with
Starting point is 01:40:46 Toronto Mike's producers okay I just think that people who pick Barenaked Ladies cover songs have no business you know I have an advantage over Cam I have a huge advantage in that I know everybody's jams I know what Stu's doing
Starting point is 01:41:00 but my problem with what Stu's doing which will make sense in a moment is that what I'm about to play, which is Stu Stone's final jam, is illegal. I shouldn't even play it. Whoa. I know. I'm pissed off that I even loaded this jam in because last week
Starting point is 01:41:17 you broke the rules on a jam. What did you pick again, Joan Jett? Oh, we never talked about the fact that you chose someone who then... Died of COVID. You picked a song covered by the Arrows, and the guy who did it, I don't know, the next day,
Starting point is 01:41:34 he heard he was mentioned on Toronto Mike, then he just kicked the bucket. So if anybody hasn't heard, maybe people might want to check on Corey Hart today. He listens to Toronto Mike, Corey Hart. I don't want to jinx anybody that I pick. But yeah, Kim, hacky selection there. Oh, this is my last pick.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Illegal. Of course, this is my pick the bare naked lady popper I'm gonna taste this time you gotta love the bare naked lady absolutely shout out to Tyler Stewart sorry Stu
Starting point is 01:42:23 who's the non-Canadian or who's the... Yeah, this is, this is obviously a discount. I, this song does not count. Like,
Starting point is 01:42:31 this one, unlike the other one, which is a grey area, this one's black and white. This is an illegal song. It's a lovely song. Although I knew going into it,
Starting point is 01:42:37 I did know going into it that it was illegal. Okay, then the question is, why did you choose this? Because I love, because the Bare Naked Ladies are an awesome band, and when they do covers, people should hear them.
Starting point is 01:42:50 That's fine. They can do that on their own time. The focus of this show, the contract you signed, in blood, may I add, I will point out right now that there is no other time in history, in history, in history, where two people are lovers in a dangerous time. Right now.
Starting point is 01:43:12 Be that as it may, what is the topic of the show? Canadian bands and covered songs by American artists. Non-Canadian artists. Okay. The song written by Bruce Coburn. Not pronounced phonetically. Canadian guy. Canadian covering Canadian.
Starting point is 01:43:35 You see the disconnect here, Stu. What a song, though. Stu, I met you in the gifted program in grade nine. I'm starting to wonder if maybe your credentials were perhaps not up to snuff. What was Mr. Allberry teaching you over? The Barenaked Ladies, by the way, are a fantastic outfit. And if you see them live, they put on a hell of a show. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:07 I hope that they've worked out their differences and they're all getting back together. I don't know. Nope, they're not. They're not. No. But it would be nice if they could because, you know, they're a fun band. I wasn't a huge fan of their, you know, I respect the hell out of them. And I think they're like, check it, itching with the tiny chicken.
Starting point is 01:44:25 Like that was big for them. This is more my speed of Barenaked Ladies. Yes. I love this song. Cam's fucking right. Stew Stone. This has nothing to do with how good the song is or how good Barenaked Ladies are.
Starting point is 01:44:39 Okay, there's no argument there. You're Barenaked Ladies. Yep, sure. The roles were clear. They were crystal clear. Canadian artists covering a non-Canadian song, and you chose a song of a Canadian artist covering a
Starting point is 01:44:51 Canadian song. It's not eligible. You willfully chose and knowingly chose to skirt the rules of this podcast. What do you have to say for yourself? You know, I want to apologize to you guys.
Starting point is 01:45:08 I thought the copy grinding was bad enough. I do want to apologize. At the end of the day, I did offer Mike a six song that he could have swapped in if he wanted to. As much as I am going against the rules,
Starting point is 01:45:23 he knowingly put the song in the playlist. I chose your first five that you submitted. And sorry, what was that tune? How do we know that one was of merit? I will say that of the Daring Naked Ladies cover songs that were played
Starting point is 01:45:40 on this program today, mine was The Superiors. I would say this is probably the best song we listened to today. I'm starting to point. You're missing the point here. This is the best song we listened to today. Yeah. That's because my final jam hasn't played yet.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Ian Service, were you in the gifted program? Of course. Who wasn't? Okay, because if you said no, I would have to kick you off the Zoom. This is gifted students only. Four for four. Were we supposed to mention sponsors at some point or are we just kicking jams?
Starting point is 01:46:12 I would love to give some love to sponsors real quick here, which is to say Palma's kitchen is still open and they're very careful. Yeah. Honestly, you got to eat. You might as well eat well, like reward yourself with the best Italian food in the GTA. So go to palmapasta.com to find out where they are
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Starting point is 01:47:09 You can also find them in LCBOs and in some grocery stores. Now, real estate doesn't stop. Interest rates are going down. There's digital open houses. Is that how you say it? Yeah. Virtual open houses, virtual assessments. Everything's going, but I recommend a phone call with Austin Keitner from the Keitner group,
Starting point is 01:47:31 text Toronto Mike to 59559 to get that conversation going. Ask him anything you want about Toronto real estate, anything at all. It helps the show. So that's an order to FOTMs out there. Contact Austin. Cam, Stu, Ian, are we ready for my final jam? Yeah. Let's do it. Oh, shit. Of course. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:06 Yeah, probably the best one. I feel like we listened to this like two weeks ago though, on the show. No. Nooooo. No. Great. This song's never been kicked out by us. Of course, we're listening to Sweet Jane by Cowboy Junk junkies and this was originally of course
Starting point is 01:48:48 by the velvet underground and i was actually i get your picks first like i get the five from cam and then i get the five from stew and then i go cook up my five and i was uh i would i would have avoided any of your jams just not to repeat but uh i didn't have to because my five were actually just not on any of your lists but i was shocked cam didn't kick this one out yeah i'm a bit surprised because mike i know i sent you some alternate choices just in case uh our friends uh choices didn't check out i wasn't gonna bring it up but this is a backup. And I refuse to participate, Stu, because I said, I'm on Team Stu. If he sets in five, I'm playing those five, and we'll just bust his chops on the podcast.
Starting point is 01:49:31 Shockingly, though, three gifted guys like ourselves have assembled lists now two weeks in a row, and there's been no cross-pollination. That is surprising. I will admit that is very surprising. My blue rodeo pick was on the very long list that Cam sent. I think it was on there somewhere, but I only took your first five, of course, as ordered.
Starting point is 01:49:51 But you're right. It's amazing that 15 songs, no repeats. That's pretty amazing. I will say, it's also amazing that two of my five songs both disqualified, which is a new record. Last week, I've surpassed my... The bar is now even higher than last week. I'm wondering
Starting point is 01:50:09 were the eligibility rules for gifted different in your neighborhood than mine? How did you sneak in there Stu Stone? I think this is like East Thornhill versus Central Thornhill discrepancies.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Regional differences? I don't know. Something was different. The grade three standardized tests that would determine our future. I will say something about this song. Because this is like, what, 1988 or so, probably?
Starting point is 01:50:42 I'm pretty sure the first time I heard this song, I had no idea it was a Velvet Underground. Yeah, me too. I'll probably read one. So this is probably one where I'm like... But see, this is the thing. It'll be tough for us to come up with these 15 jams next week
Starting point is 01:50:54 because we keep dropping those facts throughout. We want to do new songs. But I'm still going to bust out songs that we mentioned because the original people haven't heard and they're going to love them. Okay, when you you do this send me links to the originals on youtube can you do that for me yeah just saves me some time okay is that what this link that's what cam does when he sends you songs nope just uh just my request because because i say that because a lot of these songs like this one a lot of these songs are already in my personal collection. And I just pulled the MP3 out of my personal collection.
Starting point is 01:51:27 But I think with the originals that we didn't know were like, I won't have those, I think because I'll have the cover that we like better. So I'll probably bust, take those from YouTube. So that'll just save me time. But guys, we're done.
Starting point is 01:51:41 And again, thoroughly enjoyable, man. And let me ask the, the, the embedded done. And again, thoroughly enjoyable, man. Let me ask the embedded journalist, Ian Service, what did you think of this episode, Ian? Dependent. I'm so glad I was allowed to say that.
Starting point is 01:51:57 It was fantastic. You cannot spell dependent without S-T-U. Woo! Who came up with that. That's pretty good. But when I mentioned the Barenaked Ladies, Gordon, I almost threw in a cam joke. And then I showed great restraint.
Starting point is 01:52:12 I said, that's too easy. You know, you can't pick those low-hanging fruits. Top 10 Gordon songs. We could do that. Top 10 Gord or Gordon songs. Well, how about this? We'll go in order. So Stu picks the topic for next week.
Starting point is 01:52:24 Then it'll be your turn again. And all I did for this one is I just took cams from last week and I flipped it. So I feel like that was not very creative. I sort of like, but it's sort of evolved, you know? Now next week's topic, it all sort of ties together.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Like I said, you know, this is going to, next week is the finale. I mean, I was going to say, this will be the acid test. Stu's going to pick the topic. Will he get his own topic wrong? Will this start to be a Brett's situation?
Starting point is 01:52:50 And I'm wondering, like, when this pandemic ends, and let's say in three months, let's say, okay, will there be a moment where we have this moment of sadness that this ritual will be coming to an end? Well, who knows? We don't know, but we'll, I don't know. One door closes, another one opens. That's the circle of life, to quote Elton John.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Not a Canadian artist, by the way, Stu. But married to a Canadian. Oh, true. My stepbrother plays piano in the band Elton Run. The premier Elton John cover band
Starting point is 01:53:24 in Canada. JK again soon. Hopefully. Thank you to Ian Service. Hebsey will be telling us a little bit about Ian's company at the end of this episode, but Ian, do you want to chime in and just tell people about
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Starting point is 01:53:57 Awesome. So thanks for joining us. Now I wonder if any other FOTMs will say, can you sneak me the Zoom link for next Friday's broadcast? We'll see if this becomes a thing. Maybe we set up a paywall for that. Yeah, you got to become like a $10 patron or something of Toronto Mike.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Be in the Zoom with me and you and Cam and Ian. My pro account, I can get like 100 people in here or something. So we can keep adding them. So thanks, guys, for doing this. Can't wait till next Friday. like a hundred people in here or something. So, uh, we can keep adding them. So thanks guys for doing this. I can't wait till next, uh, Friday.
Starting point is 01:54:29 And that, that brings us to the end of our 610th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto, Mike. Let me get this right. Stu is at Stu stone. Cam is at cam underscore gordon.
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