Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Carrie Olver and Kim MacDonald Reunited: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1880

Episode Date: April 13, 2026

In this 1880h episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with TSC's Carrie Olver about her enduring friendship with Kim MacDonald, who she met at The Weather Network. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail].

Hey, I'm Gary Oliver from the shopping channel, formerly of the Weather Network. And I'm Kim McDonald, currently of the Weather Network. And we are so happy to be here again. What professionals? I am blowing away. What are you measuring over there? I'm going to measure your in-same. Whoa.

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means properly recycling our electronics of the past. And Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the communities since 1921. Joining me today, reunited and it feels so good. It's Carrie Oliver. And Kim McDonald. Together again, welcome back both of you to Toronto Mike.

Hey, thank you. Thank you. Great to see you. Good to see you. We had the schedule previously, and Kim had some very important business she needed to tend to, and we postponed it a bit. Thank you for that.

Well, Kim is a very important person. So she is very busy, flying all around the world. Where are you taking off to you next? Barcelona? Yeah, I'm going to Borsela. Yeah. When do you leave for Barcelona? On May 9th.

Okay, you are traveling all over the world, and we're living precariously through you. Well, thanks. It's my 25th wedding anniversary. So we're doing... It's a big deal. Like Spain, France, Italy on a cruise. So, yeah, it's going to be fun.

Okay, and you came... Last time you were in the basement, you were with your husband. Yes. Chris Pack. That's right. And I'm going to just let the listenership know. If they want to hear that episode, it was June 2024, so it's been a minute since you've been here.

But June 2024, it was episode 1,5002, And here's what I wrote at the time. You ready, Kim? Yeah. Mike chats with husband and wife, Kim McDonald, and Chris Pack about their favorite songs of all time. That's right. Along the way, we pay tribute to Martin Streak while discussing Chris's time at CFNY. And we talked, ready for this?

That was an hour 48, but we played 10 songs. Did you enjoy kicking out the jams on Toronto Mike with Chris Pack? Yes, it was a lot of fun, actually. And we didn't tell each other what songs we were going to do ahead of time. So we were hoping that we wouldn't pick the same song. That was kind of a thing that we may have done. Were you surprised at any of his picks? No, I don't think I was surprised.

Right. But, yeah, it was fun. It was a lot of fun. And you met at CF and Y, as I recall. We met at the Weather Network. Oh, you know what? Why do I think, can you remind me? But did you cross paths at CF and Y?

We did not. You did not? Okay. But I did. But I did. Yes. But I did. I was interviewed.

to work at CFNY and did not get the job. It was Sandra Plagakis. See, I'm getting my lines crossed, but I remember that story. Sandra Plagakis got the job that you wanted. Yes. And we would have met earlier had I got that job. But instead, the universe still wanted us together, so we met at the Weather Network instead.

Okay, and now you're 25 years married. That's right. And you're going to Barcelona. Yes. Sounds like good times here. So before I check in with Carrie, I'm going to read the description for your Toronto Mike debut, and then we're going to find out how you're doing.

But your debut was June 2023, so it was one year prior, and it was episode 1280. And I'll read the description. I wrote at the time. All right. Mike chats with the Weather Network's Kim McDonald about her decades at the Weather Network,

her ties to CF&Y. That's where we got that story. And I think we found out your husband to work there. Yeah. Her battle with breast cancer and more. So we had a great chat that date. Can you tell us, how are you doing, Kim, how are you feeling these?

days. Oh, I am feeling great, actually. Coming up December 2016, so coming up December 2026, it'll be 10 years since I was diagnosed. And I like to tell people that because I'm alive and well. I survived breast cancer. Stage 2B is very aggressive and I'm here to tell the tale. So doing very well. Thank you. And you're doing some kind of a fundraiser coming up. I had a story I was going to tell you before I press record and I was going to hold on to it for a minute because it tied in with something else. But there's a fundraiser that you're at, but there's two people that are there that were randomly discussed

before we press record. We only chatted for two minutes, but like two names came up. And it's just wild that you're going to be at this fundraiser, and those are the two names on the poster. That's right. Yes, Mark Shapiro will be the speaker, the guest speaker, fireside chat.

It's the Gala of Hope and Hamilton at Carman's and Tom Wilson. will be the musician. I'm very excited to see both of them. And earlier today, I was chatting with Tom Wilson because he's going to be back in the basement next Tuesday. So he'll be here and we were chatting. And I brought that up with you because I know you came from Hamilton and he's like the unofficial mayor of Hamilton.

He sure is. But then Kerry, we'll get to this in a minute. But you were just talking about the Toronto Blue Jays, the baseball club and the president, Mark Shapiro. And it's just wild. These names came up randomly. And then suddenly you pulled out this poster thing that said, hey, I'm at this fundraiser and those are the two people that are actually on the poster.

Because we live in a simulation. Kismet. I think it's a mind blow. Yeah. It's really wild. And then I remembered you were closely with Chris Murphy. And then I realized, of course, we need to say not that Chris Murphy. And then I realized I'm actually, on May 1st, I'm taking my youngest, Morgan, my fourth born, my youngest daughter.

I'm taking her to the theater Aquarius. Oh, in Hamilton. In Hamilton. And the last time I was there was to see the Tom Wilson musical, Beautiful Scars, I believe it's called. And this time I'm going to see, Tragically, it's a good life if you don't weaken. Yeah, I'm going to go on the Sunday after that.

Okay, I'm there on May 1st. I'm there on the third. Change your plans and we can hang out. Okay. Come on the third now. And then I realized the reason I bought up, the reason I tied that to Chris Murphy is because when I went to see this beautiful scars musical that Tom Wilson created,

I was hanging out extensively with Chris Murphy from Sloan and his sister before the show. And I just, it all kind of blew my mind. And I was just at choir, choir, choir last week. And it was the TransCanada Highwaymen, including Chris Murphy. But not that Chris Murphy. Yes, it was Sloan's Chris Murphy. That's right.

Not our Weather Network, Chris Murphy, or the politician in the U.S. Chris Murphy. So there's another one, apparently. Well, forget that third guy. Yeah, we don't need to know. We don't need to know. That's a distant third. Right.

Carry over. Firstly, how are you doing? Hey, I'm doing all right. It's been incredibly busy. You know, I got a new fashion thing going on and we'll talk about that maybe a little bit later. We have to. But it's been, it's, it's been good. I mean, lots of, lots of work at TSC, lots of things to sell.

Okay. What does it currently stand for right now? TSC remind me, you said it in the intro, but. It'll always be the shopping. channel to me, but it's today's shopping choice. And I think there's a split team on that. Just, just saying, either one is okay. Do you work with a Shona?

I do. Okay, so I love Shona. I've got to know Shona. Yeah, I've got to know Shona because she's dating Humble Howard from Humberland friend. That's right. And I, in a couple of times I bumped into her at a, and Shona was just modeling for me on BT, and I run into Shona all the time.

And so she... What a small world. Kim's mind is blown. No, I've had dinner with Shona. Oh my goodness. We all know Shona. Yes. When?

Years ago. Yeah. Geez. Maybe we need to get Shona on here. I don't want to make this too wild, but I... Isn't Shona gorgeous? I mean, she is just the most beautiful, statuesque woman. I mean, I just...

Oh, that goes about saying, Carrie. Please. That goes about saying. Absolutely beautiful. But I also... For five years, I co-hosted and produced a show for her ex-husband. Right. So it's all a...

the smallest world you can imagine. So Carrie, she's very happy right now. Let me just tell you. She's very happy. Well, Humble is so humble. He wouldn't, you know,

but I'm happy that she's happy. They just came back from vacation. Yeah? Not that I want to spread tails, but. What else you got for me? Wait, what other dirt you got on humble and gentlemen?

I'm not doing it. I was just about to. She's got some tea. No, she's very happy. It's all good. Okay, it's all good here.

So we're all one big happy family. But Carrie, this is your second visit. No, your third visit. So let's, So let's explain here quickly. So you made your Toronto mic debut in June 2023.

It was episode 1286. And I wrote at the time, Mike Chats with Carrie Oliver about her years at TSC, the Weather Network, which we're going to talk about in a moment, because that's how you two got to know each other. And her dad, Fergie Oliver, your dad's Fergie Oliver.

We talked for about 90 minutes. And then like one month later, you returned for episode 1,298, which I wrote at the time, Mike chats with Fergie Alver about his career in media at CFTO, his work on Blue Jay's telecasts, just

like Mom, the video, and more. And we talked about, I don't know, an hour, 40 minutes, but you were here for that as well. Yeah, I mean, it took a lot of coaxing, and I think it was only because it was you that he came out because he hadn't done an interview. And I can't even remember when.

Has he done one since? No. I'm kind of happy about that. No, you're the only guy. I don't want to like have dilute the, I like the idea that you're one-stop shopping to learn about the career of Fergie Oliver is episode 1298 of Toronto Mike. No, that seems to be,

that'll be the historical record. I think at this point. He's done a little thing for the 50th. Okay, slow that down here because we're about to find out how Fergie's doing. But first, let's, can you, because this is how Mark Shapiro came up in our combo before I press record.

Can you tell us, like what can you tell us about Fergie's, involvement in the Toronto Blue Jays 50th anniversary celebrations? Well, I just, they reached out to me to get in touch with him, just to, just to say a few words and to do an interview down at Sportsnet. So I don't know how that's all being packaged. It's not going to go 90, 100 minutes, is it? No, I think it's a pretty short segment. But saying that, I think it should be a long segment.

How about those Blue Jays and the first telecast and so much more? So, yeah, it took a lot for him to get out, but it was important to him to do that. So he's recorded this already? Yeah. Okay, so he went to, like, I don't know, the dome or something to do that, maybe. Or maybe Mel.

I think he just went to the studio and did it. Okay. Yeah. But that's, first thing, I'm happy to hear the Blue Jays reached out because you can't talk about 50 years of Blue Jays baseball without talking about the contributions

of your father. Oh, I think he's a key cog in that wheel. I think so too. And I think he needs to be in the baseball Hall of Fame. I really do. The Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame? Absolutely. I didn't know if you wanted him in Cooperstown.

No, I can go for the Canadian. I feel like whatever you say on this mic, though, comes to fruition. Okay, so say something. Okay. Let's get, let's canvas to get Fergie into the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame. Okay, love to hear, but we all need to know how Fergie's doing. It's been, let me see, that was July 20, 23. So it's been, you know, almost three years.

He's doing, actually, his health is doing very well. He's, he's low-key. he sort of just put it behind him and, you know, taking care of his wife. His wife's not doing too well. So, yeah, and they're just, he loves to go to Costco. I mean, that's where you'll find him. Well, there's a free samples there.

With the free samples. Yes. And far too much, I don't know, oatmeal and beans. You know, you can get a hot dog and a drink for $1.50. And you still can. Yeah. And they're not changing that. I think, I don't know, as long as that CEO guy's in charge.

But I mean, Joan Rivers, when she came to the shopping channel, she took off to Costco because her book was being published. And then there was some big controversy going on. And she went down to Costco as a surprise trip just to see her book and to make an appearance. And she had her hot dog and made her makeup team eat hot dogs. We are supported by Costco. Yes. Proudly sponsored. Bring them on as a sponsor.

Do you know what Costco Joan Rivers went to? I think the one right here. Queensway. Yeah. Down the street from Great Lakes Brewery. That's right. And I saw you at a TMLX event there. Yes.

See? And I have fresh beer for you guys from Great Lakes Brewery that you could bring home with you today. Full circle moment. Okay. Yeah. A lot of people will go get the hot dog and then come to the patio at Great Lakes and drink a pint or two. Nice. Okay.

Joan Rivers, a shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. I have measuring tapes for you. you both here. Nice segue. Oh, no. Well, we got to get cooking. I have a few more Fergi questions. All right.

Sorry. Thank you. So you each get another measuring tape. I don't know if you got one last time. I did. You're very generous. I am. Thank you.

And I understand that the highlight of your visits, your respective visits, you haven't visited together. I'm very excited to have you together. I have some audio. But it was getting that lasagna from Palmapasta. You got another lasagna coming. I'm very excited.

Okay. That was my father's very favorite thing. the pasta. Yeah, he loves for a sequel. He loves the Palma pasta. Just like the free samples

at Costco. Yes. I don't know about the Ridley funeral home thing, but he came around afterwards. Well, he might have to measure something. Yeah.

Doesn't mean he has to die. No, I think he got the flashlight. Oh. So, no, I think it has been in use. So he is appreciative. You never know if you need a flashlight, right?

They always come in handy here. But back to your dad, just a minute here. And it's going to be all about you guys, obviously. But I loved that episode so much. And your son was there. He was and he had just got,

now he's married, so he was engaged and he got married, both my kids got married last year. Well, congrats. Thank you. It was a big year. Yes. My daughter got married last year as well. Yes. He just seemed so young to have kids married. Oh, we love you. Yeah.

Thank you. Come on. My goodness. Okay, but so I need to know, and I think the listeners want to know, how did your dad feel about his Toronto mic episode? Like, I don't know, the drive home or just following that. Like, Did he have any regrets doing it? Was he glad he did it?

Did he listen to it? Yeah, he absolutely listened to it. You know, he felt, you know, pretty conflicted about the whole video moment. Well, I'll bet. But after talking to him, I mean, it was just so important to get that out there. It still comes up on my social media. People still reach out. They still DM me about it.

They have no idea. They jump on the bandwagon. And to be honest, it's incredibly frustrating for me. I'm going to say I feel for you because I know what I get. I know what I get via social media because I did the 90-minute episode with Fergie. And you got some. I get all the time. Really?

All the time. And I have stopped like you can't comment on the Instagram anymore. I disabled comments. And I had to disabled comments at a bunch of places where it was because it was constant. It was almost like like some kind of a jumping on some kind of bandwagon or something. Well, there was a comedian and I can't place her right now. I'll have to, I'll have to look through my, my Instagram that reposted something and was about the subject. And that came up and it went on a whole brand new cycle and his clip was included in that. Yes, there was a barrage. Yes. And then it

became a resurgence and now it's sort of, but I would have, I'm no longer on Twitter. I kind of, I'm like a Twitter refugee on blue sky and but, but there, I've had. I've, I had like, there were arguments on blue sky. Like, why would I have Fergie Oliver on Toronto? That's crazy. It actually, it upsets me to a point where we won't dwell on this too long, except, I mean, I feel. No, Kim, Kim, Kim, can bear with this moment. Sorry, Kim.

No, that's okay. I know the emails and the social media DMs and the notes I received for having the 90 minutes, and I can only imagine what people are saying to you. And I just want to say, if Fergie's listening to this, I'm sorry that you had to go through this. I think it's so unfair to Fergie Oliver. Yeah, thank you for saying that. I really appreciate it. It pisses me off. It pisses me off too. And, you know, what can you do about it? I think people they want to cause, they feel like they're being helpful, maybe in some sort of way and fighting some sort of injustice. But it's beyond frustrating because of the association. They think that, you know,

maybe something happened to me or, you know, how could I be supportive of something so bad? So I'm sorry that, you know, he has to endure this. And I'm sure that's why partly a big reason why he lays so low. And I'm glad the Blue Jays reached out and that there might be some Furgy Oliver in the 50th anniversary celebrations. And I'm glad you're back and I'm glad Kim is here. Thank you. Thanks. And enough of that.

Enough of that. Yeah. Well, I got to find out how he's doing. It's been three years. He's great. He listened to it back. I mean, he was ultimately happy that he talked about it. And it was so important to do it.

I felt bringing it up. Yeah, we had to. You and I talked about that. I mean, it was absolutely necessary. And I, and I just wanted it on record. Yeah. And also,

the support that you had said, what did you think? Yeah, no, I liked it. I thought it was, you know, it was nice to hear another side,

to hear his side. It just, it's the only place to go to hear his side. Of course. But also the other people that you had brought in, you know, other names like Christine

and, and other people that had worked with him. Kate Wheeler. Kate Wheeler. It was Kay Wheeler. is the one who worked on Just Like Mom. And back that up by, you know, people that were in his planetary. Kate Wheeler, I get just, Kate Wheeler said she was there working on Just Like Mom very closely.

She was very, very involved in all aspects of getting the kids. You know, you got to, you're like hurting cats, I guess. You're going to get the kids in line and all the stuff in online. And she said if she had ever seen anything even slightly of concerning to her, she would have screamed it from the rafters and reported it. And she said, Fergie was a complete gentleman. Everything was...

Absolutely. And she's more as upset as I am at the fact that this reputation online seems to have emerged here. So Kate Wheeler, yeah, absolutely. And of course, you know I've had many conversations with Paul Burford. We've had many conversations about Just Like Mom. I've done the deep dives into Just Like Mom. I used to watch Just Like Mom.

Kim, did you watch Just Like Mom? Yeah, I did. Of course. All right. Did you ever think about what you would do if you ever got on that show? Like, you know, did you have any strategy? Are we going to do a round of it here? Did you bring the ketchup?

I brought the mustard and the onions. What do you got? Last time you were here, you brought samples for me. You don't have any samples in the morning? I didn't bring you any samples this morning. Get the hell out of my basement. I know. Get the hell of anything.

No face cream. Okay. So love to produce. Did you use the samples last time? 100%. I used everything. Yes. I used the samples last time.

Don't you notice I'm looking great, right? Ten years younger. I'll leave a bag at your door when I drive by next time. To kickstart our comments. conversation and we'll hear a lot more Kim and rest of the way here. But I'm going to play a clip and then I want to hear about you two tell me how you

met at the Weather Network and I think there are even some listeners who might not even remember Carrie Oliver from the Weather Network. But here's a little clip I pulled. Hi, good morning. Happy Friday. It's January 27. Kim and Carrie with you. The end of the month. I know. Hard to believe how many days to spring. I'm going to get you on that one later. I know you were counting down so diligently the other day.

But you know what? It hasn't been that bad of winter overall. So I'm not, usually winter, boy, I get, you know, I start to hibernate, I get the blues. But this winter has been a lot different. I've been out a lot more. There has been very little snowfall. And I know that hasn't been good for a lot of people and businesses. But for those of you who prefer a spring to a winter, it's been pretty decent. Now, today, a little dicey. Well, this is the problem.

When you get conditions like this that are hovering around freezing, freezing rain, ice pellets are all a consideration. and that's exactly the concern today, north of the city of Toronto. How to call her from Peterborough, around 4 or 5 o'clock this morning, local time. They were talking more. Doing the drive time. I'll bring it. I honestly could listen. This is a long clip.

I could listen to the whole game thing. I haven't heard us together on the Weather Network in, well, how many years? We don't search ourselves like that. All I know is what that comes up. It's bad hairdoes. Yeah. That's about it. So tell me, like, so remind us all, because here you are interacting.

I'm not even sure what years we're talking about here. I don't know the date of this. Well, Carrie was there for 10 years. So it's not like a little flyby. Like she was there for 10 years. You were at, what, TSC for 10, then the Weather Network for 10, and then back to TSC. Right. So I started in 04, 03, and you were.

I was on Mat leave. You were on Mat leave. So Carolyn Jarvis was the one who onboarded me here. So, and then when did you come back? 05, I guess. No, I was off for 7. months. I was... Oh, well. Yeah. I'm not like these kids today. Yeah. Just run right back to work.

An American would freak out. You got so long. They'd be like seven months. Seven months. I took seven days. I took four months with my first child. Anyway, craziness. So, yeah, so I would have been gone in 2003 and back in 2003. Yeah. But you started when I was away. And how we bonded and how a few of us really bonded at the Weather Network was working early. mornings and in a change room where we put on our own makeup every morning and do our own hair every morning. So we don't have makeup artist or anybody like that. So we were in there and you're so vulnerable at that time of day, right? And you just spill. And we would laugh and we would cry and you know every single morning you're there. You can't help but be friends. And if you,

you know, and there's a few of us who are now lifelong friends as a result. And Carrie and I are especially close and have maintained our friendship ever since. And you left probably, what, 2013? Something like that? Yeah. Yeah. And we're as close as ever. So, yeah, there was a bonding thing there. So you were instant, instant friends, which does not surprise me because you're both the delightful people. Well, thank you. Thanks. But those change rooms, those were, you know, when you do the morning like that and you come in, your briefing times with the meteorologists were 315 or 245, I mean. We'd get there.

Yeah, probably about 3.30 maybe for the briefing. And we'd be on the air by 5. Five. So yeah, we had to be. Unless you were doing the local show. Right. Then it was 530. 530.

But we were both doing national. Right? Yeah. And we would be co-hosts and we would go back and forth. There was three of us. There was Chris Murphy, Carrie, and I. And then we would kind of switch so that someone would always get a break from the early morning.

So we'd do early morning and late morning. and late morning and have a little bit of a later start. Yeah, the burnout on that. I mean, you age. Anyone who does shift work, you know that. But I mean, you age 10 years doing that early morning shift. How early would you wake up for a shift like that? 2.30?

Yeah. Yeah, that is a stupid o'clock. Yeah. But I mean, if you're disciplined to go to bed at 7 p.m. But who's disciplined to do that? I had young teenagers. Yes, she had, you had a single mom. 10 and a 12-year-old.

Yeah. And she had to make sure that they were going to school. in the morning and that they were doing their thing and she'd be calling them not from a cell phone but from the phone in the change room. This is how long ago it was that was on the wall and making sure that they were okay and they were getting off to school okay and she had to do that from work. And then doing shopping channel stuff and going to Munich and Tokyo and all these sorts of things. Okay, so wait a minute. So help me understand those. So are you doing double duty? Like, like, so what is the timelines like to this? Because it sounds like it's all mixed up.

You got like the weather network and the shopping channel. So I left the shopping channel and then I still, I left the shopping channel. Then I went and did a show for discovery about spas. And so we did three years, 72 episodes. And I was probably, I mean, I was one of the early shows on Prime. And it's actually, I think, still there. And she's hot as hell. Yeah, right.

But it says, no, no, no. It says, 1972 on the episode, they got. It's wrong. It was 99 cents to buy one of these old episodes. And it was just, we went to 75 spas around the world. I mean, it was absolutely amazing. Well, that's a, who pitched that? Let's get Carrie Oliver at a spa.

Alan Strandsman produced it. I think he was the producer of Little as Homo. Oh, yeah. And you're nominated for a Gemini. I was. I was. I lost to Debbie Travis. Oh, there's no shame in that.

No shame. Marilyn Dennis was up. Oh, yeah. No, it was a good group, and I was surprised that I got the nomination. And what year are we talking about for that nomination? 2000. In the year, 2002-ish or something around there. But so then after that, and I was traveling so much for that job, and I thought, boy, I'd like a nine-to-fiver.

I'd like to be able to go into a studio again because I just come from doing the shopping channel stuff. So I ended up at the weather network. It was more of a five to nineer. It was more of a five to nineer. But even better, really. I just didn't have to get on a plane anymore. But then I had had some people reach out and I ended up with the jewelry line. And so I would take off for weekends, fly on a Thursday, get to Tokyo on a Friday, do shows on a Saturday, fly home on a Sunday and go back to work Monday.

So I would do that maybe. seven or eight times a year. Which doesn't sound like a nine to five. So that started and that was sort of too good to give up. So thank goodness I had lots of help and family around for the kids. But yeah. Yeah, her vacation was work. Yeah.

So I didn't take time off. Yeah. And then go to Germany or Japan or. So Kim, yes. Do you remember when, you know, Carrie told you she was leaving the Weather Network? Yes, of course. Of course. Would you share?

Would you remember about that? Well, I mean, I have a photo of her last day of the two of us together. I wrote a poem. I brought some champagne for you. It was a big deal. Yeah, it was a big deal. I was super sad. I was, I understood.

Like, I, you know, I got what TSC had offered her. At offer, she could not refuse. And so she said, yes, it wasn't like, they came for her. They offered her a lot of money to come back. And she. They poached her. Yeah, they poached her. and she took advantage of it.

And it was a great move for her. She, you know, she's great over there. She's an icon. So I understood it, but it was hard for me to lose, like,

such a close friend at work because, you know, you get so much support from your friends at work. And it felt so much like family, though, at the weather network. Totally.

I mean, when you're in that, it really felt like you're in the trenches because you never knew what was going to happen from day to day. And, you know, it was,

it was live. It was live. Yeah. It was great. So how long did you two spend together at the Weather Network? 10 years. 10 years. Yeah.

So, okay. Well, nine years. And you've been there. And eight months. Like, Kim's literally been there forever. Yes. I've literally been there since the dawn of men. So what year are you in now?

So as of May 2nd, which would be, which would have been, which will be my first day on air versus when I was hired. But the first day on air was May 2nd, 1998. So it's 28 years. Oh my God. Like, again. Longest running, right? Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. When does Chris Murphy show up? He's in at about 2000. Oh, it's just a puppy there. Okay, wow. Yeah, I think he was two years after me. Yeah, he's a newbie.

He's a new. He's only 26 years. Yeah, because he just celebrated 25 years there last year. But it says something about that company that you can spend so much time there. Like, you're not, you know, you're not itching to get out. You like it there. Yeah. That's the thing.

I think, you know, a lot of people choose to leave and a lot of people don't choose to leave. They leave, you know, because of other plans by managers. But I think given the choice, there are a lot of people, especially on-air people who have been there 10, 15 years or more who just like it. He like the lifestyle of working at the Weather Network, you know? It's funny because I mentioned I bumped into Shonat things because she's there with Humble Howard. And then I realized,

oh, one of the places recently where I saw her was at a Carla Collins stand-up performance. And then I remember of course, Carla Collins, of course, she was on the weather network. Yes. She was at the weather network when the weather network was in Montreal. Okay. Yeah.

Okay. I didn't even know the weather network. Hasn't everyone done a stint at the weather network? Jillian Barbary was at the weather network. Do you two want to do a little moment here? Just name check people that went on, you know, that took a pit stop. You would know more than I, but. So many.

Yeah. And some come back. So Anwar Knight came back and Chris Potter is back now. Okay. Those are big names. People often write me like, where's Chris Potter at? He's back of the network. And that's exactly where he should be.

And Anwar Night 2, he's been over here. Chris has never actually been on Toronto Mike does, I think. But Anwar's been down here. And it was great to see him back on the weather and inward. Do you want me to get Chris for you? Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

But I still need. And how many years was Tom Reynolds on? Because he's, he's almost a 30, isn't he? 30 years? Yeah. It's, I don't know exactly. We'll have to text him. She didn't do her homework for the Toronto Mike return all these questions.

He's like, oh, this guy likes details. All right. Because I know Lindsay Morrison, is that the name of me? Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah. Kelsey McEwen. Kelsey. Right.

Right. Yeah, I remember when she started and was doing the stories from Edmonton. Yeah, from Calgary, Calgary, yeah. Ross Hall. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah, all the faces you're seeing on.

On TV. On any network right now. They all started with the weather. Dana Levinson. Of. I also produce a show. for Dana Levinson. Yeah.

Rory O'Shea. Roe O'Shea. There's another big name. It's a, yeah. Was he at Q? Yeah. Q and then he came to the weather network from Q. Because I came from Hits to the weather network.

And so we were both coming from Rock Stations. And Anwar Knight came from, I think, 108 or something. It was 108. Huh. See, I have some memory. It was 101. Because we talked about that.

But one thing I called him out on, but he denies it. He says Anwar Knights is real name is what he tells me. Anwar night, but there's no way, like, it can't be like a nighttime jock of a name night, right? Like, that's KM. Would you spill that tea? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I usually know. I usually know who's got, you know, the romance. But if you knew, would you spill it? No.

There you go. Of course not. If Anwar's not spilling it, I'm not saying it. Exactly. You could always throw a wink at me. Carrie, are you ticked off every time somebody calls you Carrie Oliver? Not anymore. Not anymore.

It was, for the longest. It was, for the longest. Because of all those spa. spa treatments, you're relaxed about it now. No kidding. I probably have had over five, during that show, over 500 different spa treatments. It was absolutely crazy.

It's a good life if you don't weekend. But the best one, I have to say, all kidding aside, was the two-handed, the four-handed massage. Whoa. Four-handed massage in sync like a pair of synchronized skaters, swimmers. Where?

Let's go. It was in the crib. guy with the forehand. It was two women. But it was somewhere in the Caribbean. And they have this down to an art. One is on one side of your body. The one is on the other side of your body.

Ooh. Unbelievable. You're not the same afterwards. You're not the same. She's changed forever. Wait till Kim and I tag team you after this. We're going to be in sync. Are you kidding me?

Boy, this went there fast. I knew it would. Well, you know, it's all just to make you feel better. So, okay, only because I have a regular guest named Cam Gordon. He wrote a book here called Track Changes. And he still calls your dad Furgy Oliver. And every damn time, I'm like, it's not Oliver. Yeah.

It's Oliver. Like, how difficult is that? Yeah. Well, I don't know any other Oliver's. But you actually spelt my name wrong in the invite, so I'm going to say. Okay, hold on. He must be, he's fine with your last name. A Mac? A Mac? Did he do?

A Mac? No, no, I know what I did. I did a mix. Because I actually fixed it. I don't know. I did fix it. If you looked at it now, if you pulled up in a.

Yeah. I added, I did miss the A in MacDonald. And is there a pronunciation difference between McDonald and MacDonald? Like, do we need to nail the Mac? No, not really. It's okay. I actually caught,

I know, but no joke. I caught that mistake and I fixed it in the calendar. Okay. I know well that you're a MacDonald. Okay, you're not a McDonald here. But,

at least I didn't, I'm not mispronouncing it right. You got to take the vowel from her and put the vowel. in mine. Right. Yeah, but I have a name like Carrie Oliver, your first and last name, were constantly spelled wrong.

Constantly, right? And then I got put into a boys camp, the boys side, because of Carrie, Carrie Grant, you know, whatever. So, yeah. One guy named Carrie and suddenly. That's it.

I dated a guy named Carrie. That's weird. That was weird, you know, as a teenager. Okay. Yeah, well. But there is, I think I read,

I don't remember the name, someone named Tyler got married to a Tyler, or a Taylor. No, maybe it was a Taylor got married to a Taylor, and then she changed her name to his name. So they have the identical first, last name now.

Yeah, I have an aunt and uncle who are both Kellys. And Kim, you often, the same. Well, Kim could be, yeah. Well, Kim Mitchell. Kim Mitchell, for sure. Sure. I took my mom to see Kim Mitchell at a local park here, and she told me, she said, I love her music.

That was what my mom said when I said, I'm taking you to Kim Mitchell. Kim Mitchell stood me up for a weather network interview. I will say that. Oh. There's some dirt. There's some dirt. Yeah. He stood me up.

We arranged it. I don't know what happened. Who knows? Maybe you had a good excuse. Do you have celebrity interviews on the weather that work? Well, I did, I created this little thing called VIP weather. So, or weather VIP, I guess. Weather VIP.

Weather VIP, because I really wanted to get, I wanted to do some stories with some celebrities. She got some good ones too. And so I got some really good ones. And there, and everybody's got a good weather story. So let's hear a weather story. Richard Branson, she got. I got Richard Branson. He was amazing telling me about the jet stream and they veered off so they had to land here.

And, you know, the jet came over and picked them up so they were fine. But other than that. But Kim blew up. Oh, and I got Bo Derek. Bo Derek. Yeah, it was great. Do you know how many times I watched that on City TV, Lake Great Movies? We all watched it.

Are you kidding me? Yeah. Jeez. I recorded that to VHS. I got a couple people, but not as big as that. So can I get, yeah, well, what are your names? I'm interested in levels of celebrity. Like, because in this world, you know, kids.

you know, Kim Mitchell is a big deal. And then you're dropping... Well, but he never made Weather VIP. So we'll never know what it could have been. Well, that's disappointing. There's another guy who was at Q107 for a while. Kim Mitchell. Drop some names on me, Kim McDonald.

Yes. Like what? Like celebrities that you would have interviewed on the Weather Network? Okay, sure. Well, at the time, Adam Vancouverden when he was an Olympian, so I got Adam Vancouverden to do a video for me, George Strabolopoulopoulos. did a video for me.

Who probably knew your husband. Yes, he did. So we went to his show, and he was talking to us after. And then, like, we hung back. And then I said, hey, you know, will you do this thing? He's like, yeah. So my husband actually shot it. And we sat on the two chairs, like the red chairs.

And the husband shot it. And he told a great motorcycle story, weather stories, you can imagine. And so that was really good. I want to say Brett Butt, but somebody from this hour was 20 to, Brent Budd. I think. You don't remember Because they would Because sometimes

No, because sometimes They would send in a video Like so you'd ask them to do it And then they would send it to you Rather than being in person Right Right. So I've read

The Canadian Pickers Yeah Not the Canadian Pickers I don't even know that What that is Canadian Pickers To be Oh it was a show It was a

Like a reality show No like the American Pickers You know that either But I might have missed this one On the History Network I know They pick vintage fines And vintage

Okay. Okay, okay. But I do know Brent Budd from Corner Gas. And you could talk probably about how the, in Saskatchewan or something, the weather. Okay, it wasn't him. It's the Newfoundland one. So if we got you. Alan Doyle. No. Okay, I'm going to name Newfound. But Alan Doyle was at the Weather Network. He came in for something. I forget why. But he came in when he was doing, when he was starring in his show. So he did drop by. Okay. And Rick Morser. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Got a few football players. We've got a few football players. It was fun.

Well, Gretzky's dad would come, Walter. He'd love to drop by. So if we had to ask you a weather story, weather VIP, what would it be? What's your best weather start? Come on. Tornadoes, hurricanes. Let me talk it through because I didn't anticipate this.

So I've never encountered a hurricane. I've never encountered a tornado. I don't know if I've ever had extreme. I mean, most of my time spent here in Toronto. Like, we don't really get it. Ice storm? Yeah, well, I remember, I remember the ice storm and losing power for a little period of time. I remember the ice storm.

I don't, you know, those are the days you can't bike. Like, I just remember, oh, I have to shut it down. We had, we had a big snow day earlier in 2026. We had a, I think it was a record day, right? Yep. All right, let me please. We did. Hold on.

Here we go. Well, it's the biggest storm of the season so far across southern Ontario. and it impacted millions, widespread snow making a slow go on the roads. A lot of people taking a snow day, schools, high schools, elementary, colleges and universities, all closed. Hamilton, Halton, Toronto, Wellington, Niagara. Bus is canceled in eastern Ontario. And for good reason, people were being encouraged not to drive at all for fear of this. Sometimes you can get to the main road and they're fine, but a lot of times you can't get to the main road.

main road because your road is not plowed. The system's stretching all the way through Quebec as well. Montreal and Ottawa getting the storm a little bit later than areas across southern Ontario. So I remember this day was not only a few months ago, but I remember having to go out at least five different times to shovel. And I remember running out of places to put the snow. And I remember I knew, oh, this is a big one.

I'm not going to be able to bike for a few days. But I remember how long it took for bike paths to get cleared. Like it was well over a week. Oh, yeah. It took a long time. I know there was, we had lots of stories about the city and how long it's taking. How come I can still hear this? I don't. It's so funny. And FYI. Damn, you sound good. That was all scriptless, of course, no script. That was all just ad living. They throw some video up and then I just start talking. So could you ever work with script again? Like, don't you love the live format? Yeah. I mean, and not necessarily live, but certainly no script, no matter what, whether I'm recording it or not. It's, uh, the weather network and TSC are very similar in that way. right? You don't really have a... No, no, no. It's completely ad lib.

All ad lib. Yeah, but you ever said anything and you're like, oh, I wish I could take that back? Yes. I'm not talking about like stumbling. Like, I know, but mine's at, so they don't, we don't edit Toronto mic. We, like, there's more than me. It's just me, but we're going to say we. It sounds bigger. Yeah. There's no editing of Toronto mic. And I know sometimes I can't remember a name of somebody and I can hear myself, like, I'm lost in my brain trying to come up of a name or whatever. And that stuff's just like the authentic stuff that, you know, I'm fine with. But, but, but. But so I don't think I've ever blurted out something and said, oh, I wish I could take that back. And I guess you've never said something and said, oh, like that might be misinterpreted or I didn't mean it like that. You never, you know, said something and said, oh, if I had an edit button, I probably would phrase it differently.

Well, nothing that's been too terrible. But, you know, a few stories here and there. You know, when you're sitting there for four hours live, unscripted, you start to feel like you're in your living room. You know, you start to forget that the cameras are even there. So, you know, the stories get a little bit more personal. It gets a little bit more relaxed. And, yeah, maybe take back a thing or two, but nothing terrible. Nothing, nothing scandalous.

Nothing scandalous. I mean, I remember I swore in the air. Well, there's something. Like when I first started. Like an F-bomb? No, I think it was something like a Jesus something. But other than that, that was about it. It was like, yeah, damn, this is a good deal.

But we were like a radio format in the very beginning because we couldn't do live motion. So it was these stop frame pictures that were coming up right in the beginning. So we were sitting at like a little radio booth. And then we had these stop frame pictures. And because I don't know, the Canadian government thought we were too salacious. Right. Well, but that's where there's a lot of commonalities you mentioned between the weather network

and the shopping channel. Because I mean, I can, if I close my eyes, I can see the, I remember what the Weather Network was and then how it evolved. And then it became like, oh, this is like a TV station. Like it was like, but it used to be like the words on the screen. It was really like if you go to YouTube. That was before my, yeah, before my time. Yeah.

Wow. Okay. I'm going to play another little clip though of Kerry. About an hour. About a minute. We have an hour of Kerry all over here. Yeah, let's not. Just because.

Take my money. Everyone's going to be buying. Here we go. The Weather Network. Tell the music. Well, let's talk about your long-range forecast, cooler conditions and heavy amounts of snow, starting throughout Wednesday, overnight into Thursday. We can see accumulations around the foothills of up to 25 centimeters of snow.

Or sunshine, though, and a few scattered showers for British Columbia. Fair conditions across much of the east, although Newfoundland, Labrador, you're still dealing with an area of low pressure that's in the vicinity. It's funny. But more, yeah, from the central part of the country, seasonal conditions in the east. That's speak. Yeah, I'll still say something. like that, you know, and reference. You know, there's lots of precipitation coming in.

Well, sure. When people ask me about the weather, sometimes I don't know if, you know, it could just be a casual conversation and they have no idea who I am. Like, you go in the grocery store and they're like, what's it like out there? Well, they get more than they bargained for. And they're like, oh, yeah, I recognize that cadence. What's going on there? So I'm going to ask you one at a time, starting with you Carrie.

I just wanted to play some more of you on the Weather Network here. But like, if you had, in your 10 years at the weather. network, if you had to pick one thing you covered, one weather event in this country that you cover that stands out, like if you had one big weather event in Canada during your 10 years. The flooding, the flooding in Calgary. Wasn't it? Yeah, that flooding in Calgary was scary. That was scary.

And I remember there was a young, I can't remember now if it was a boy or girl calling in, because we'd have the stormline. And the stormline is just that access and leaving. a message. Before social media. Yeah. And they were pretty afraid. They didn't know. Their parents weren't home. They were upset. Didn't know quite what to do. Yeah. And it was, it was, yeah, watching it go down. I mean, because you're sitting there a little bit in horror yourself. And then it's real. It's real. remind us like for like remind us what, what was happening in Calgary. You'll have to remind me again. I mean, I know that there was record flooding. Yes, because they had a massive snowpack that year.

Right. So temperature is soared. And when temperatures warm up that quickly and you have a massive snowpack and everything melts at once, then suddenly you have flooding. So it's all coming down the mountain. Rivers obviously overflow. And that was basically the gist of it. But it was more than they'd ever seen.

Yes. It was incredibly crazy. Yeah. And you got less like, what is this? Like a little boy who calls in? Yeah. Calls it on the stormline just because we'd always put, you know, for any information, call the stormline.

So they were savvy enough to call. And they sounded really scared. And it was, you really realized this, this real impact of what was happening in real time. Or you'd get tornado warnings coming in. And, you know, people leaving their messages on the stormline. It was very real because it was not, you're right, no social media. So that was that feeling of connection with people and how it was impacting their lives. I have a question for you, Kim.

a savvy veteran of the weather network. So before I get your weather event, you've been there a lot longer than Carrie. But for fires, like it feels like every year now, we're going to see coverage of parts of Canada will be on fire, okay? But how come I don't remember this from back in the day?

Like, I don't remember this being a thing until, like, fairly recently. Like, was it just, was it a smaller thing that maybe didn't get the same coverage? Or why does it feel like a thing suddenly? It's a thing now for you. you primarily because the smoke has traveled into southern Ontario. We can smell it now.

Right? But obviously forests have always burned in British Columbia, Alberta, northern Ontario, Quebec, etc. It is worse. It is worse now because we're getting every year, it says this has been a record breaking year for wildfires, hectares burned. That's how they know, right? How many hectares are burned? Okay, so we had, you know, 850,000 kilometers burned or whatever.

And so the last few years, have been brutal in that way. So, yeah, drought, heat, climate change, all of that, all of those things are factors. Mitigating fires ahead of time, you know, they have to do the pre-burns kind of thing and make sure that the forest is not ripe to catch on fire. And obviously we know that forests need fires.

We need to get out the dead wood and stuff. It's healthy for fires in forests, and we've had that for years. But it's worse because people, love to live near a forest. So it gets worse because people's homes are now in jeopardy. Right? So the wildfires, yeah, sure, forest burn.

But now when we build around them, build close to them, British Columbia, Alberta, you're going to know more about it because people's lives are in jeopardy. Like Fort McMurray a few years ago. That would be my story. So 10 years ago. Okay, yeah, let's hear your story. 10 years ago was Fort McMurray.

We're actually doing a documentary on the Weather Network about it. We just had one for Katrina as well. Okay. So Fort McMurray, because, and I have a very personal story about Fort McMurray, I have family in Fort McMurray. So I have a lot of family. But I had cousins in Fort McMurray. And my cousin, Rochelle, was nine months pregnant. And she had two little boys, husband, two little boys.

She had a nanny. She worked full time. And the fire was coming for them, right? They had very little time. they thought that the fire would not be able to jump the river, but it did. And that's why Fort McMurray became so terrifying, because they were not anticipating the winds to, you know, blow this fire over the river. So she's messaging me as she's trying to escape.

So they have two vehicles, they have two dogs, the whole thing, the kids, she's nine months pregnant, and they can't move because there's only one way out, right? So all the cars are at a standstill, and you see photos. of this and video of this and the flames are right behind them. So I get chills when I think about it because she's messaging me about trying to escape. And so they did, they got out, they managed to make it up to Sincruid, which is where she worked. And they were put in like a little tiny bunker, bunky, whatever, where the workers would stay. And so there's no running water.

There's one little bed and the whole family and the dogs and the nanny were in this little room. and she sent me a photo of it. I remember I posted it on Twitter, not saying who she was or anything, just saying all these people are staying in this room and she's happy to be safe, but, you know, this is the kind of a combination she has right now. And, I mean, it went wild on Twitter like everyone,

you know, shared it and stuff. But she was one of the first people flown out of Fort McMurray, thankfully to Edmonton where she had her baby, who's now a 10-year-old boy. Wow. Yeah, everything worked out. They moved back to Edmonton for, a while, but now she's back in Fort McMurray

and she is interviewed in this documentary that we're doing. I haven't seen the interview. Did they rebuild? Yeah, well, that's my question too, Carrie. We should take team this. Okay. Because 10 years out, you go back home. Did they rebuild? Is there any evidence? Well, she, you know,

they did rebuild in Fort McMurray, but I don't know they moved. They moved to Edmonton. And so, and then when they came back to Fort McMurray, I'm only going to guess here that they have a new home, like a different home than they had before. But the the community, would you, if you went there today,

would you see what happened? Would you have any signs of what happened 10 years ago? Well, you have to watch the doc. I will. When can I see this dog? When can I see this dog? Because the 10-year anniversary is coming up first week of May. So it's probably going to be around there.

I'll let you know. Okay. Tune into the Weather Network. You'll see all the odds for it. Between this 10 years since the Fort McMurray fires and then 50 years of Blue J. Baseball, I'm going to see, hopefully see. Fergie Oliver, F-O-T-M-F-E-Lver in that. There's a lot of docs to keep my eyes on here.

Okay. How about them Blue Jays? We're here just to promote. Stay tuned. We're here to promote all the docs going on there. All the talks happening. So, Carrie, I heard Kim say, you got an offer you couldn't refuse from the shopping channel because they were pursuing

you. Well, it really felt like going back home. I mean, I think that that was always the place I wanted to be. I mean, I loved being at the Weather Network. Are you kidding? I walked into the Weather Network, not knowing a thing about weather. And they schooled me and taught me and were patient with me. I mean, I thought, oh, I'll be a weather girl, you know?

And I mean, I know how ridiculous that kind of sounds, but that was the connotation at the time. And boy, did I realize how wrong I was. And it was, it was hardcore science and learning. And, you know, Chris Murphy. schooling me on airport codes relentlessly. Relentlessly. Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, Y, T. Why is it not Y, Y, Y, Z?

Do we have an answer to that? Why is it Y, Y, Y, Y, Z? I don't know, that's strange, isn't it? Yeah. One of the great wonders of life. It's an international airport, I guess. And Chris St. Clair telling me to read pilot books, you know, for navigational books to understand more about weather.

And then Chris Murphy, or rather, Chris St. Clair, taking me on the weekends and training me. And then understanding kind of the big deal from, you know, not talking so much about the weather to be a little bit more vague and general, depending on how far out and how many days, because you can get pretty into it. So just learning the nuances. It was a total other muscle. So it was amazing.

but I still kept my feet into the shopping channel and I still like I just loved that whole idea of of products and selling and and you know new and different technologies and things like that that were always coming out right so when they asked me to come back I thought it was a really good fit so do you remember telling your friend Kim McDonald that you were leaving the weather network I do I do I didn't want to leave Kimmy I didn't but it was it was just such a natural next step for me. So, yeah, it was great. Do you remember, like, you told her in person?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was in person. And it was, and it was just, I wasn't going to suggest you. I was excited. I was excited to move forward. I mean, and I, because Kim and I were so close that, I mean, I always knew that we'd meet each other's lives. So that was, that was not a deal breaker that it wasn't.

going to see her again. That's right. Right. So that was sometimes that happens. Like sometimes you don't work with someone anymore and that was where the friendship started and ended. Most of the time. Of course. Most of the time. No matter how close you are. We have such a great for some. I mean, with Suzanne and Emily that, you know, and Emily, she's, she does her mornings in CHCHH. And Suzanne is busy doing, working for the government. Government PR and communications and all of that. And the four of us have all like always maintained our friendship. Yeah. So So how often will the four of you get together? We get together for every birthday.

So there's four birthdays. We get together for Christmas. We usually do a little summer thing. Yeah. That's more than most families get together. That's a lot. I definitely get more because you like each other. To do our schedules.

It's ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, but we make sure and make a point of it. That's right. And to celebrate each other's wins and to, you know, console each other. We have a chat, a chat group and, you know, we're always checking in. You can add me to that WhatsApp chat.

Never. Never. Listen in. That's a private chat. Wow. You can sell tickets to that one right there. And that's a very rare thing that we've managed to keep that. Yes.

I'm thinking now, like since 2018 I've been doing this thing. Actually, I haven't worked in an office since 2011, so it's actually been a long time. Lucky you. Yeah, I worked for a German software company from home because I wasn't going to go to, moved to Frankfurt. But I'm thinking back, there were a lot of work people through the years because I'm about your age.

I were working a long time. There's a lot of people I was really close to, like really tight at work. And then you leave for another job. And you kind of, maybe you even think you're going to keep the friendship going because you're good close buds. But I mean, to a T,

we have a couple of exceptions. It all died on the vine. It turned out that once you weren't at work together, you just became too much of a thing to get together and to maintain it or whatever. Like, I think that's the norm. It's tough to know, like, are we friends because we work together or we met at work and now we're friends outside of work? And it's kind of awesome to listen to you two and to see you two together right now and to say, oh, here's an example of a friendship that was like a true bona fide friendship that didn't matter where you worked.

That's right. It's beautiful. It's beautiful. 13 years, we haven't worked together. That's right. That's how long it's been. So we've been apart longer than together as far as work. And you've been through some shit and it's good to have friends like Carrie.

Yes. Carrie, Suzanne, and Emily were all very much there for me when I was sick. And during my treatment, all of them did very special things for me. And yeah, Carrie, I would just call Carrie on my lowest day. And she's like, I'm coming to get you right now. I'm going to take you outside in the sun. When was the last time you were outside, Kim? I don't know, like five days ago. Well, you're coming out now. Let's go. So she would drag me out into the sun and it would be great. Yeah. It's kind of beautiful. Yeah. You know, I think there's something about live TV or those experiences or something that are so hyper-adrenaline filled that you share those moments that bond you together so much. Yes. I don't know. I mean, I'm sure there's lots of other jobs that do that. But we have to.

It's a kinship because you feel like you've really gone through hell and back. And we have to trust each other. Yes. So much. That's on the air. We have to trust each other. we have to trust the other person will pick up if we drop, you know, and, uh, I mean, I've been on the air with people who've hung me. Yes, me too. Oh, it's the worst.

The worst. You're looking at it. Oh, you're looking at them like, come on, you know, like, are you kidding me? Yeah. Oh, I could give you one good name, but I won't. Right as soon as I stop recording. Oh, they hung me large. I know, I know how to keep things in the vault. You should see, let me show you the list of things in the vault. But that's the thing. I mean, it's such, there is such a trust there. And it's, and it's amazing because, you know, you're not always at your best. That's right.

That's right. Those are some tough days. Yeah, there's no safety net. So you need to have each other's back. And when you can trust somebody that you'll, you'll catch her if she's falling or whatever, that's beautiful. That's friendship right there. It is.

I mean, I had one day on the air where, I mean, my prompter goes down. I panicked over something. This was the first, you know, a little bit of, getting in there and all I saw was Gary Archibald holding a glass of water going, are you okay? There's nothing I can do. Let's explain the prompter because I said we're unprompted, but the prompter was for the news. For news.

We would do a news segment and then everything else, everything weather related specifically was all ad-libbed. And now we don't have news. We just, everything is ad-liped. Right, right, right. Do you two remember a CBC series called The Newsroom by Ken? by Ken Finkelman. Does this ring a bell at all?

Okay, so we're talking like mid to late 90s, but I think it came back in the early 2000s. Okay, so there was this series by Ken Finkelman on CBC called The Newsroom. Jeremy Hots was in it.

Oh, I know him. Yeah, Mark Farrell. It was critically acclaimed. I loved it. I knew the other newsroom, but not this one. Yeah, the other one comes later. Sorkin, yeah,

and Sorkin's newsroom. This is before that. It was Ken Finkelman on CBC. But I was at an event Saturday night? It was Saturday night at the Paradise Theater where they had a panel discussion with people who acted in the newsroom

and the creator who wrote the newsroom, Ken Finkelman. And I've been trying to get him on Toronto Mike for years and I couldn't locate him. I can't find him. He's kind of a cranky pants, a bit of a curmudgeon. And anyway, I couldn't get him,

but Dave Bedini got him for this West End Phoenix thing at the Paradise. And then somebody at, the person hosting this thing was asking, was it like curb your enthusiasm? And this won't mean as to you too because you don't know the show I'm talking about. But for the listeners,

is it like curb your enthusiasm? where there's no script. There's like an outliner where you got to go, but you improvise it, which is what it sounds like you guys are doing over there at the Weather Network and the shopping channel right there. And then to a T, the cast members are like, it was the exact opposite.

Like Ken Finkelman wrote every word and even the timing of it all, and you had to basically say it with the same timing, he wrote the exact same words. Like it was a complete opposite of Curb Your Enthusiasm. And on the next FOTM cast, because I was there with the VATM cast, the VP of Sales, Tyler Campbell. We're going to dive into this event.

It was wild to see, they hadn't seen each other in a long time, but to see Ken Finkelman and how the cast members reacted. And there's an actress named Karen Hines, who I'm going to get on Toronto, Mike, because she has some tea to spill about this. I don't think Ken Finkelman knew how to write for a woman. Ooh, interesting. And Karen's got things to say about it.

So wait, I'm sorry I haven't seen this show, but it looked like, you owe me no apologies. It looked like it could have been ad-lib, And yet everything was scripted. You know this name? He's a word for the, yes. So he was shocked. Yeah.

It was fully scripted because it did come across a bit like like a Larry David thing. It was, yeah. But no. I think Finkelman, and I don't know him personally, I was in the room with him on Saturday, but I kind of know enough because I've talked to people like Jeremy Hots and people like that. I think, oh, and Colin Brunton, he worked on the newsroom as well. And we talked about it too.

But I think he's a bit of a genius. Like he's a great writer, he's a bit of a genius. But I think he's a lot of an asshole. Like you must have, have you worked with these talent? Now I'm thinking of sort of like John Derringer because I've been following the Human Rights Tribunal. I don't know if you guys are following this. Yes, yes.

Okay. But you might be very good at your job and very talented. But at the, you might also be a complete asshole. Right. We don't, I mean, I didn't work with many of those at all at the Weather Network. No assholes at the Weather Network. Not really. Not really. Nobody stands out to me. Maybe one person, not a man, was a bit of an asshole. But otherwise, no. I mean, a lot of people come and go, no asshole stayed for any length of time. So for me to really stand out to me, at least not on air.

Because it seems to be a tradeoff where I feel like some companies, I'm not going to, like some big companies will tolerate a certain level of asshole in exchange for like revenue generation because of this talent. individual. And I always want to like, we just want you to be nice. That is a prerequisite there. That is it is. Which is amazing. Yes. It is great. Now I need Carrie to give me the list of assholes she's worked with all the years. Well, you know, it's funny. It's kind of a, you know, I just find that the more famous people are generally, generally the nicer they are. Really?

I found. I have found. I mean, you've seen the shopping channels. They get big, big, big, big guests. You know, right? I mean, Joan Rivers was no, new carry by name. Can we talk? Um, she was the first person to bring her own light, you know, her own key light. I always, I want one. I want that. You know, just walked around with her own key light. Can we get Kim and Joan Rivers light? Yeah, a nice light pink hue to it. It was just so youthful. Um, but I find ones that are sort of, that sea level. Like just famous enough that they think their shit doesn't stink

anymore and you got to eat it. Yeah, a little bit. I find that maybe just because they're feeling out their way and the whole thing, maybe they feel like they should be acting a certain way. Well, they had a taste of glory and they got to their head. Yeah. That's how I am.

That can be a little wanting. But, you know, the bigger the celebs are, I was just looking at an old tape of me and Ed McMahon. I mean, Hi-oh! Exactly. One of the nicest guys you would ever want to meet, you know. But.

You said Ed McMahon, and then I remembered, I should promote this. I'm not doing a good job promoting it. On May 21st, I'm headlining at the Elma combo. Ooh. I know. Like, that's at the ticketed event. People can go to TorontoMike.com and click Elmo gig at the top, and they can buy some tickets.

I hope somebody is there to see this performance, because you said Edd McMahon, and I thought of Ed McMahon and how he was the, you know, sidekick of Johnny Carson on the Tonight Show. And then I thought of Paul Schaefer

who was like the sidekick of David Letterman who came up earlier, right? Yeah. Yeah. And then I realized it's cold in here. Right. I'm still thinking about my jacket back on.

Observation before I get back to my Paul Schaefer is that it is cold in here. But Kerry has started to disrobe. Have you noticed? Like she had a... I had a large jacket on, but I'm in between. I kind of like,

You need a sweater, a light sweater. A jacket's too heavy. But what I noticed was, because I did take note, oh, she's taken off her jacket. But then I realized you kind of used it as like a shawl or something. Like you were using it to cover your arms a bit. But then as we progressed, it fell lower. Now there's no, like the jacket.

You're sitting on like a seat cushion now. So are you cold? Yeah. Little chilly. Okay. Well, I didn't want, I didn't ask you to put it back on. There we go. Now that you've called it out of mirror, I'm wearing it as a blanket.

Kim looks like she just came from Woodststrand. Doc. Like, that's right? Yeah, this is what I'm wearing on the air tonight, minus the jeans. I won't wear a proper pair of pants today. You know, that's one thing. I'm so happy. I got rid of all my suits.

I still have a lot of them, but, you know, that typical newscaster, you know, the, the blazer. I had more red and blue blazers. And I got to actually start to wear green again when I left the Weather Network. No, I couldn't wear green. Because the green screen. Yeah. Even I know what that's about. Right.

Okay. The day that Rick Mercer came in and... Yeah, to the Weather Network. And ambushed me because nobody told me and ambushed me while I was on the air with his film crew. And, yeah. I think I played a clip of it last.

Did I play a clip of this last? I know we talked about it. That's amazing. Yes. I think he was a floating head at one point. You know, the fun that you can have on that green screen. But yeah.

So I could wear green again. Okay, before I forget, Paul Schaefer, my Paul Schaefer, for this event on May 21st is Rob Pruse. Oh. He was the keyboardist for spoons. Yep. Yeah.

And honeymoon sweet actually as well. But all the spoon songs you know and love, of course. He's on keyboards for all those. So he will be on stage with me. He co-wrote romantic traffic. I love that song. Yeah.

And the video is iconic. Yeah. It's iconic. Okay. So, okay, so I'm going to make sure people, everybody listening has to buy 10 tickets. Okay. Go see me at the Alma Combo, May 21st.

trust me you'll enjoy it thank you but you you talked earlier Carrie about how you had to learn you thought you were just going to be a weather girl

you're going to show up and read the weather read the weather yeah yeah but then you learn science there's science in here there's airport codes

and this reminds me now I just got reminded so you know Kim McDonnell and I had this conversation about how Kim may not be a meteorologist but you know your shit

but I play one on TV right Yeah, right. No, no, this girl is an honorary doctorate. Well, this ties into when I found, so sometimes I desire a guest and they don't actually, well, Fergie is a good example, your dad. I want this person on trying to, like, but they're not out and about doing things. Like, they're actually tough the book because they don't typically go on podcast and stuff.

And Harold Hussein, do you know this name? Yeah, of course. Of course you do. So Harold Hussein was one of these guys. Never did a podcast, wasn't anywhere. But I have such vivid memories of hair. Harold on City Pulse telling me I need to wear, I need to bring a, bring a, bring an umbrella. You know, I almost said it in his accent.

Don't do that. Yeah, I almost did. Maybe that one's allowed. I don't know. But Harold Hussain came over and basically crapped on what he called Ripon Reads. He says, when, when weather is delivered by non-meaterologists, because he's a meteorologist. But he went off on it. And I know we talked about this, but it's, I would love to revisit it just briefly here.

As I think about Harold Hussain talking about the rip and reads, that's not doing the weather. Like, like, speak. He must be talking about radio, maybe, the rip and read. I don't know. I think he was talking about TV. I mean, they really took great lengths, too. Yeah, the weather network's different. It is different because you're immersed in it.

It's not just a part of a bigger picture. It's not the one minute of the news of the newscast. Absolutely. Also, now we have mainly only meteorologists on the air. I'm probably the only one left. Maybe there's a couple who are non-metrologists. You know, I guess they keep me on because I've been there for so long. Yeah, but we took it very seriously.

Yes, of course. I, you know, but I can tell you this. I have a lot of respect for meteorologists. Maybe not as broadcasters necessarily. Some can really do both and that's amazing. But if you have a meteorologist who went to, say, York University for atmospheric science, that is the smartest person in your newsroom. I have no doubt.

I have no doubt with the amount of math and physics that they have done to get their atmospheric science degree is far and away harder than any journalism degree or communications degree. So I 100% respect. I work with so many math nerds. They are brilliant minds, really. And so if someone says, oh, yeah, now it's time for the weather,

and you have a real meteorologist on there, I mean, they really know their shit. What I do, which I think is better than most meteorologists who are in broadcasting, with broadcasting being their second skill, is that I know how to communicate with people the high science. So they know the high science and they might have trouble explaining that to the layman. They can tell you about the highs and the lows and the troughs and the troughs, etc. But they can't tell you what you need to wear.

You know what I mean? Like they can't tell you if it's going to be cold tomorrow. They go high pressures coming in. We're going to get north wind right off of Hudson Bay. And in my mind, I'm like, yeah, it's going to be freezing. But maybe not everybody knows that, right? Or that high pressure means sunshine and et cetera, et cetera. So I think that my skill is that I know how to tell people what the weather is so they can walk away from the weather cast and say,

okay, shit, I know exactly what's going to happen tomorrow versus someone who is so smart that maybe too smart for the average audience and may not get the message as clearly across. You're the communicator. Exactly. And you're speaking to us dumb commenters at home who need to know, do I need an umbrella or not? But some people are really smart who are watching the weather network, like really into the weather, right? And they might know more about it than I do. And then there's the average person who doesn't really know.

Like they're saying, oh, you said you were going to get 10 centimeters of snow and we only got five or whatever it is, right? But if they watch and they say, this area, this area and this area, you have between five and ten centimeters possible, like we can really explain it versus somebody who looks maybe at an app and looks at an icon,

the apps are super handy and I'm not saying, please download your Weather Network app today. But I'm saying you can check that, but if you really want a next book. Yeah, and your TSC app. Those two apps you cannot live without, right? You cannot. You cannot. But yeah, so that's,

I just feel like I'm a weather interpreter. Like I can take, the science and then I can make it the weather whisperer that's it I'm the weather whisperer which is harder to say but it's also the station that you leave on and both of our stations are the ones that are on background noise in people's homes so you become a part of people's families in that way you know it's like I know you how do I know you how do I know you I know you I know your voice because my my my my on the 10 still runs my yeah her voice she has voice over still on the Weather Network.

That's a mind blow. I know. I love hearing it when I'm in the chamber. Like a hell of a voice. You're watching the Weather Network. Yes. That's great. But it's...

Can you cut an ID? You're listening to Toronto Mic'd. You're listening to Toronto mic. But that's the thing. It's you become that sort of relationship. Don't you find that? Yes. That when you meet people, it's, there's a real familyness about it.

really close to you. They do. It's wonderful. That sounds wonderful. Well, we're all saying it in the most innocent sort of way. Of course. Only because I know, part of the reason I can find old Carrie Oliver is creepy guys who archive it on YouTube. Well, you're not wrong there.

Because you're attractive. So I think there's a dark side. Yes. Yes. I mean, I'm talking about the lovely ladies that on me at the grocery store. But thank you for archiving some vintage Carrie Oliver on the website. their network. So I was like, I had this thing. I was like, oh, that's like

gross and weird and I feel for Carrie on this one. But at the same time, somebody took the time to rip something from a long time ago and archived it forever on YouTube. So a podcast It's the only way I'll have it. Well, it's the only way I have it. And I get to play it on Toronto Mike years later.

So thank you creepy guy who thought Carrie was a babe. I have no comment. I have no comment. No comment from Carrie Oliver. And you know, your respective of stations just, we're almost winding down here because I know Kim's got to get it. We got to get it or you better work. Okay, so I think it's interesting that when I think of the weather network,

the first person I think of is the lady I'm looking at right now, Kim McDonald. That's the first person I think of when I think of the weather network. I agree. I absolutely agree. We all agree in this room. How many times did you get the top weather person in this city? How many years in a row? Seven. Seven years in a row. Just saying, okay.

No, that's never, that's a record. That's like Cal Ripkin's Iron Man Street. Yeah, I don't think anybody else holds that. No, no way. But when I, what I'll say to you carry it, as I look into your beautiful eyes right now as well, when I think of the shopping channel, which is not called that anymore. Did you know it's called today's shopping train? I do know that.

But I'm resisting. I'm resisting. I still call it the shopping channel. TSC will call it. That's called it. It's also the sky dome. So. Yes.

No, but it is the sky dome. It is the sky dome. And we're... And I work for Rogers. I know. Well, you know, your dad dropped one of the great lines when I talked. By the way, we didn't touch this real quick here. And then I'll get back to the sentence I want to say to you.

Okay. The statue. Because you remember in that episode of Fergie. Yes. I was upset at the fact the only statue outside that dome, bless his heart. Ted Rogers, okay? Okay. And I was saying, I think I said, I think I might even have, did I pull a clip, hold on.

I might have pulled the clip here. Did I pull here? I do have, this is the response. So I asked your father, Fergie Oliver, like, I think I said something, like, it was just, you know, improv, but it was like, why don't we have a statue of Joe Carter? And this is what your dad said.

You're goddamn right. Okay. That sounds about him. It is him. And that catchphrase, we've been kind of repeating it. Like, we, that's become a part of the TMU, the Toronto Mike universe,

where we go back to that line, you're goddamn right. Your dad's gutter. reaction to me saying, get rid of the Ted Rogers statue, put up a statue of Joe Carter, you goddamn right. They're doing that now. That's what I hear. It's happening.

It's happening. What do I say? You can't issue a press release and not doing it. I can't say anything. I'm a, I'm a Rogers devotee. What can I say? Well, this is not, this is a positive thing about Rogers. Okay?

We're not getting any trouble here. Yes. Rogers, listen to Fergie on Toronto Mike. Yes. Heard that reaction. You're goddamn right. And said, let's rectify this. And let's move Ted to, you know, Mount Pleit, wherever you get to Jarvis and Blue or wherever

the hell they are. I mean, Joe Carter is the face, is the icon. It's exactly what. Joe Carter hit the biggest home run in Blue Jay's history. And my dad is one of the biggest fans of Joe. So. Yeah. And Joe, unlike the other World Series heroes, like, well, you can't put up a statue of

Roberto Al-Aimar, but you can put up a statue of the beloved Joe Carter. and they're doing that. Yeah. Thank you, Fergie. Yeah. For that reaction. Kim, Kim agrees. I do agree.

I have to finish the sentence. You're goddamn right. You're goddamn right. When I think of TSC, the first person I think of, I'm looking at it right now. Carry over. Yeah, the queen. So you are now, you two are the faces of your respective stations. Take a moment, just drink that in here before we say goodbye.

Thank you. Thank you. And you still look so damn young. What's going on? It means that we have a few more years. We can still get older in television. It's because she shares her products with me that I stay young. But, you know, yeah, I think that we're the faces because we just showed up every day.

And I think you show up every day for if you're in radio or in your television. And that's how you create a career and that's how you create a following. But we love it. You do. And yeah. And we love what we do. We both love what we do. I absolutely love what I do.

And I love that you dropped in at the Weather Network for 10 years because we wouldn't have had this. I would have just, you know, admired you from afar. And this episode never would have happened if you didn't drop by the Weather Network for 10 years. I'm so privileged to have been able to work with you for 10 years and that you're in my life and that we have this relationship because my life would not be the same without you. Oh God. You're going to be crying. But it's so true. It's so true. And you've taught me so much. I could make her cry, but that would be unfair. It would be unfair. But before we go, we have got to mention my new fashion life. Oh my God. I was, here, let me do this.

Yes. Let me thank the last two partners I haven't mentioned yet. And then you're going to tell us about that. I've got to. One like question on our way out. Okay. So I want to make sure the listenership knows that Nick Ieini's is a proud sponsor of this program. And he's got a podcast called Building Toronto Skyline.

And his most recent episode is a live conversation with Toronto mayoral candidate Brad Bradford. And I urge people to hear Brad Bradford on. Building Toronto Skyline. I recorded it live just a couple of weeks ago. So thank you, Nick Aienis. And here's a tip I gave this to you ladies last time. But if you have old cables, old devices, old electronics, maybe it's sitting in a drawer or a closet,

or maybe Carrie's got a whole room full of it. Who knows? Don't throw that in the garbage. Go to recycle my electronics.c.c. Put in your postal code and find out where you can drop it off to be properly recycled. Tell me, Carrie Oliver, what's new in your world.

Oh, thank you. Carrie-O, that's the new fashion line. Cario! So I was so excited because TSC, we're partnered together to do this, and it is a brand-new undertaking. A host has never done this before to have their own curated fashion collection.

I'm working with one of my favorite designers in Montreal, and we're coming up with these capsule collections that have been designed really for women, that are, I mean, all women, of course, but I mean women in 50s and, you know, moving on in their life and their bodies are, their clothes are fitting a little bit differently. They would, you know, like it a little bit more relaxed here, a little bit more tailored here. So it's comfort for your, you know, your changing body, but not losing a little bit of edge in your fashion. And so it's been wonderful. We did a little spot on BT the other day. We sold out most of our first collection.

My next drop is on May 24th, and I want people to go to tsc.c.ca, and they can just search carry-o. Carrie-O. I love that branding. Cario. It's not Carrie Oliver. It's Cario. No, Cario. And it's like, you know, there's Jackie O. Well, I don't want to go that far, but yes, of course. And, you know, Grace, as Elaine Benis would say on Seinfeldon. Yes, yes. Great. I love it. Carrie O. Thanks. Yeah, it's great stuff. She sold out. so quickly. It's like, can I get anything yet? Carrie? She's like, no, I'm sorry. Don't forget your friends. As you, Carrie, as you rise, do not forget the little people you met along the way. She will be, Cario, head to toe. Cario, okay, so that's amazing. That's amazing.

I know Kim McDonald's jams, because she came over with her husband, Chris Pack, and there's a great episode in the Toronto Mike's feed I mentioned earlier where you can hear them kick out the jams. I think five songs each. It was awesome. But I need to know on our way out, carry your jams. Like, what, what music? Oh, I'm like an old, guns and roses. Guns and fucking roses.

You got it. I love that. I have an appetite for destruction pinning around the corner. Okay, well, I'm a big appetite for destruction guy. That, a little deaf leopard, like I love the 90s. Hair bands. Hair bands, yeah, hysteria.

Love bites. Yes. Pour some sugar on me. Oh, my God. You know, love it. Okay. I love hearing. Yeah. This is like 80s hard rock.

Like mid to late 80s hard rock. Yeah, yeah, totally. Okay, do you like poison? I'm not a big poison fan. What about Cinderella? Oh, okay. You're going down. What about Molly Crew?

What about Molly Crew? I'm just just guessing here. Yeah, Arrow Smith. You know, all those guys. Yeah. Yeah. Loving an elevator. I would go food fighters, though, too.

Okay. I would say food fighters is mine. Yeah. Okay. You know? Is there a band that, brings you two together? Like, is there a band where he's like,

you both love this band? No, you're a little bit more music than I am. Yeah, I'm just... I'm more poppy. Yeah. But we are going to see Nikki Glaser together in Niagara Falls. Okay. So that's something we're going to share comedy rather than music.

Yeah. Love a good stand-up. Maybe I'll look in the crowd on May 21st and I'll see you at the Elma combo. Who knows, who knows? Well, where do we buy our tickets? You go to Torontomike.com. Okay. Elmo gig.

Pick up your... your tickets. It's a Thursday night, I believe, and I got Rob Pruss on stage of me, and I'm going to perform. It's happening. Are you singing? I was wondering. I don't plan to sing. If I sing, it was improv. I didn't plan to do it. Who knows what's going to come out of my mouth that night. I love this. I wanted to put you together, because I wanted to get a sense of, like, this friendship that comes out of the weather network, because I could feel it. It was palpable. Exceeded all my expectations. This is a beautiful,

relationship I'm witness too. I'm her biggest fan. I'm her biggest fan. That's what makes it beautiful. You're each other's biggest fans. Absolutely. Hands down. Yeah, I thought you were my biggest fans. And your biggest fans. Yes, of course. We'll see you at the Elma Combo. Yes, we'll see you there. How about those blue jays? And that brings us to the end of our 1,880 of show. 1880. That's a round number, right? Yeah, I like it. I'm going to get a tattooed. 1880. 1880. I feel like in a, wait, what's your big anniversary again? Like your big milestone at T.W. But, okay, but that's wedding anniversary, right? But you're... Winning is 25. TWN is 28. One's May 2nd. One's May 5th.

Okay. So you're gonna be there for 30 years at the Weather Network, right? In two years. Okay. Yes. 30 years, yes. I'm just planning ahead when I get you guys back in the basement. I got to do before then, but I got to get you then.

Okay. Go to Toronto Mike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs. Buy those Elmo tickets. And much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. You guys got beer. Thank you. Palma pasta.

I have a lasagna in the freezer for you. Nick Iini's, he's going to jump out of a box in a moment and surprise you. Who knows? Recycle my Electronics.com. And Ridley Funeral Home, you got your measuring tape? I got my measuring tape.

You have no idea how handy that's going to come in. In seams. In seams. She's a fashion designer. When Kim leaves, you'll be measuring my inseam. It's going to be great. Okay. Joey Triviani's style.

No, thanks. Right. Well, I'm hoping. All right. So my next guest, this gentleman's name is D.M. Fox. We're going to talk about the 1926 Toronto May Belief's baseball team. That's going to be awesome. And then on Wednesday lowest of the low back in the basement, then Thursday is Rob

Salem and his wife, Rita Zikis. That should be rad. It's a big week. See you all then. Thank you all.