Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Charlotte Cornfield: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1897

Episode Date: May 8, 2026

In this 1897th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with singer songwriter Charlotte Cornfield about her time in Montreal and Brooklyn before settling down in Toronto and touring with Broken Social... Scene and collaborating with Feist. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, this is Charlotte Cornfield. I'm a songwriter from Toronto, and I have a new record called Harts Like Hell that came out at the end of March. And tomorrow night, I'm going to be part of an amazing show, tribute to Big Star. That's a fundraiser for Daily Bread Food Bank
Starting point is 00:00:18 happening at the Garrison in celebration of Bookie. And I'm psyched to be here on Toronto-Miked. Welcome to episode 1,897 of Toronto Mikeed, an award-winning podcast, proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. Order online at great lakes beer.com for free, local home delivery in the GTA. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh, homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville. Visit palmapasta.com for more.
Starting point is 00:01:19 The Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team all be at Christy Pitts this Sunday at 2 p.m. for the home opener, your Toronto Maple Leafs are Plan Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. Fusion Corp's own Nick Aeinis. He's the host of Building Toronto Skyline and Mike and Nick,
Starting point is 00:01:39 two podcasts that you ought to listen to. Recycle MyElectronics.com. Committing to our planet's future means properly recycling our electronics of the past. And Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today, making her Toronto mic debut, it is indeed Charlotte Cornfield. Nice to meet you, Charlotte. Nice to meet you, too. That name, Cornfield, that's the real deal?
Starting point is 00:02:08 Or is this a stage name? That is a beautiful name. It's my real last name. Okay. So from a family of corn farmers, possibly, the origin of that surname. Maybe way back. It was an anglicization of the name Cornfeld, which I think was more sort of like wheat. Farmer, German-Polish background.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I don't know totally the history there. Sun down in the Paris of the Prairies. Okay. Love the origin story because Charlotte Cornfield is a pretty fantastic handle. Yeah, I got lucky with this style of music that I do. Can we shout somebody out off the top? Elliot Lefko. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:47 How do you know Elliot Lefko? I mean, I'd heard Tell of Elliot for years. He's done so much amazing work for music. And I met him. I think it was two years ago at the same event that I'm doing this weekend. And that year we were doing replacements. So let's talk about that event off the top. And then we'll get to know you better.
Starting point is 00:03:08 And I have some Charlotte Cornfield music I'm going to play. And we're going to have a great chat. But this event, so we're recording on Friday, May 8th, this event is tomorrow. It is. So tomorrow, and so this is the third annual, and you mentioned you bring non-perishable food items, and that gets you in the door at the garrison. Yeah. So it's a great cause, and it's in memory of Dave Bookman.
Starting point is 00:03:33 We'll talk about Booky in a moment. But just so I get the facts right here, three, no, three years ago, two years ago, two years ago, you mentioned great artists like yourself would play songs by the replacements. Yeah. Last year, I attended last year, it was the tragically hip. Were you part of the lineup last year? No, I wasn't. I think I was, I can't remember where I was.
Starting point is 00:03:56 I think I was on the road at that point. On the road again? Do you know that was Terry Fox's favorite song? Really? Yeah, on the road again. It doesn't surprise me. Yeah, he liked a little country and some Willie Nelson there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And this year it is, what artists are you guys covering this year? Big Star. Okay, how familiar. I was curious, when I looked at it, I don't know why I was, because they're playing Bookies, it's all about Booky's favorite artists. That's how they came up with Big Star. And Big Star is like a critical darling. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:25 But not a commercial success. Like, what was your familiarity with Big Star before you realized you had to cover a big Star song tomorrow night? I actually love Big Star so much that I have a line and a song off my last record could have done anything where I mentioned Big Star. I'm talking about putting records
Starting point is 00:04:45 on. Should we put on a record maybe Big Stars third? So I've been a huge fan of theirs for about 12 or 13 years and yeah, just some of my favorite songs. Well, then you got lucky with this theme this year. If you were asked to perform, I'm curious,
Starting point is 00:05:05 I'm not actually curious, because now this is the third band that's been covered for a night at the garrison in honor of bookie for the daily bread food bank like if they said oh the artist is and they named a band that you hate like does that matter you'll find a song you can do or like does it matter who you're covering at these annual garrison events oh for sure yeah like i wouldn't agree to do it if i wasn't into if i wasn't into it um you know i'm totally poor bookie he's like come on it's one of my favorite bands he's saying Come on, Charlotte. Well, yeah, it's more just like, I'd be happy to attend and support,
Starting point is 00:05:40 but if it wasn't going to musically resonate, it'd be hard to, it'd be hard to pull it off. Are there, I mean, now I need to know, like, are there popular bands that you'd be like, nope? Well, I'm on Toronto mic, so I'm afraid to say this, but rush. Okay. Don't be afraid. Listen, I think I'm in trouble with the Rush Truthers. Like, I think I'm in their bad books, because I've been saying that in subdivisions, the sample
Starting point is 00:06:02 of, there's a voice that says, subdivisions. And I am all but certain. I don't have any proof or this conversation would be over. This debate would be over. But I believe it to be a sample of Mark Daly on CityPulse, which was the City TV news at the time. You're a much younger person than I am. So I have to tell you about CityPulse. Sit down. Grandpa wants to tell you about City Pulse, okay? But the rush truthers say, no, that's Neil Pyrr. The late Neil Peart. There's no evidence of that either, except that, you know, the band said that's Neil Pirt. So we're supposed to just believe it, I guess, 100%. So I feel like this is a safe space if you want to hate on Rush.
Starting point is 00:06:39 I mean, it's not that I want to hate on Rush. It's just that I, their music doesn't resonate with me. What about Spirit Radio? Like that's got a bit of a reggae rhythm going on. Maybe you could do a nice little Charlotte Cornfield cover of Spirit of Radio. Well, I actually did cover Tom Sawyer in 2008 as part of a music we hate show. That's funny. So everyone had to pick a song that they hated.
Starting point is 00:07:06 There's only one, and now, by the way, this tour that's coming up, they played the Juno's recently. I don't know if you caught that. Yes, with Anika Mileson. There's actually a woman in the band. Which is amazing. Which is amazing. And she's amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Absolutely. Absolutely. But there's only one Rush song in their entire catalog where you hear a woman's voice. Time stands still. Do you remember this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And anyway, that's a fun fact here. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:31 So we're moving on from. rush. This is Rush cast, but I want to say there's two promoters, by the way. It's not just Elliot Lefko behind this annual event of the Garrison. Everybody should show up with some non-perishable food, and I'll name-check some of the artists that'll be playing in addition to Charlotte Cornfield. But Stephen Stanley, who is an original member of Loest of the Lowell. Yeah. Do you know Stephen?
Starting point is 00:07:54 I do know Stephen. He's a buddy of mine, really, really sweet guy, amazing musician, and yeah. So I agree on all the accounts. He's a sweetheart. I've, you know, he's been here multiple times. Love the guy. He actually came on once with Chris Brown from a bourbon tabernacle choir. Chris, he's great. He's a Wolf Island guy. You've been to Wolf Island? I have many times. Yeah, I've got to get my ass over there. All the actions on Wolf Island. But also got a name check, Ron Hawkins, who it was nice to have Stephen and Ron touring together again. Yeah. I mean, I actually am not super deep on lowest of the low. Like I, I, yeah. Get out of my basement. No, I just like have not. It's not that I haven't, I just haven't checked it out. Well, where were you in 1991, Charlotte Cornfield?
Starting point is 00:08:40 I was three, and I was living. Actually, I was actually, a mildly surprised you were alive, to be honest. I thought you were going to tell me I was a, you know, a glint in my father's eye or something like that. But, okay, so I'm going to name check some of the artists that are joining you, but I wanted to shout out Stephen Stanley and Elliot Lefco that they do a great job on this. In fact, last year to promote this event at the garrison, Brendan Canning Love Brendan
Starting point is 00:09:04 Founding member of Broken Social Scene I feel like they're having a resurgence A new record out today Yes that's right I got that email That's right I'm gonna see them this summer At the what's it called now The RBC Amphitheater
Starting point is 00:09:17 Do you artists have like a cheat sheet for what the hell is the venue I don't know what it's called Same with Meridian Hall's Sony Center O'Keefe Hummingbird Can we just like okay the horseshoe tavern If that's the name and we don't change it like we don't mess with it. Like that's the way,
Starting point is 00:09:31 the Rivoli, okay? Yeah, I mean, the Rivoli, talk about having a resurgence. Yeah. Nirvana of the band,
Starting point is 00:09:37 show the movie, right? Yeah. There's an episode of Toronto Mike, Charlotte, your homework, maybe on your way home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I had on a guy named Barry Hertz, who's the, he covers movies for the Globe and Mail. Yeah. We just did 90 minutes on like on the origin story
Starting point is 00:09:53 of Nirvana of the band and the multiple series they had, the web series, the vice TV series, and then the movie. Like this is a super deep dive into Nirvana the band, the show of the movie, and more. I called it Nirvana the band The Show of the Movie, the podcast, and all the Nirvana the band heads should check it out.
Starting point is 00:10:09 Cool. Yeah, I'm excited to check it out. And you're right. The Rivoli is, I feel like a lot of that nostalgia has come back thanks to Nirvana the band. Like, oh, remember Now magazine when it was this cool free weekly that you'd pick up and all this stuff? Okay, you're ready to run through some artists? Yes. And you, and then after this we'll get to know Charlotte Cornfield. But your job is to, I don't know, react to each, even I don't know that person or I love that person, whatever. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:34 And if I mispronounced names, it's because I'm terrible, okay? Let's start with Aaron Goldstein. I love Aaron Goldstein. I've known him forever. Incredible musician, songwriter, side person, producer. Yeah, amazing guy. See, I love this game because now that you've set the bar there, when you say something like, oh, he's fine. Like, we'll know what that means, you know, I don't like this person.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Okay. All right, here's a band, FOTM band. That means friend of Toronto Mike. You're now an FOTM yourself, Charlotte. Altered by mom. Don't know anything about that band. Altered by mom. You're going to see them perform tomorrow at the garrison. Okay, I hope I don't put you the last name. Anna Merniques. Oh, yeah. Did I say the last name, right? Yeah. Yeah, she is, she's in beams. She's got her own project. She's in Ace of Wands. And she is a fellow musician parent. I have a three-year-old daughter and she's got a... Amazing. ...son who's, like, a little over one, so we've been chatting about that. Okay, I feel like Sky Wallace could join that crew. Yeah, Sky Wallace, also awesome musician.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Although not on this bill. Oh, is she not? Sorry, I don't have my glasses on because I forgot my... No, you know, I don't want you reading my screen anyways, because all the real talk is there. I don't want you to know what's coming. But Craig Daniels. Craig Daniels, I feel like I met him in Montreal.
Starting point is 00:11:55 That sounds like a song. Like, I met him. I think I met him years ago in Montreal, like weirdo, awesome, classic punk guy. Here's a name I can pronounce, ready? Drew Smith. Drew Smith from the bicycles. I love bicycles. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Classic Toronto band, amazing musician. He's put out music under Bunny, the name Bunny, I think. But he also, yeah, just really, really, really great musician. I'm glad you're here because I'm getting an education now. Like, because I don't have, like, I'm not cool, like you people who know all. all this stuff. So I'm glad you're here. Gentlemen Reg. Gentlemen, Reg. Also, legendary Toronto songwriter. He's put out so many great records and he's a pal.
Starting point is 00:12:39 And also collaborator of the hidden cameras and I think broken social scene at various times. So excited to hear. But who's not on that list? Okay, that's a long list. Yeah. Broken Social Scene. I'm going to ask you about one soon. Let me get to you. Jordy Gordon? Yeah, Jordy Gordon used to be when I first knew about Jordy, he was in a band called the Bar Mitzvah Brothers from Guelph,
Starting point is 00:13:02 like way back in the day. But he's been putting out amazing records under his own name. He also plays with a lot of great bands like U.S. girls and the weather station. Okay. And as far as I know, no relation to FOTM Hall of Famer Cam Gordon. I just threw that out for the listenership. Okay, Graven.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Graven. Maddie McKekney, I think, is his last room. That's right. Yeah. Also, a wolf. I know him through like sort of Ottawa. slash Wolf Island people, really sweet guy. Very sweet guy. He's also an FOTM. So I'm going to shout out the FOTMs here. Here's an FOTM. John Bora. I first met John Bora. He was doing sound at the Dakota.
Starting point is 00:13:42 And probably about 2008 or 9, I met him. And then I realized he was an incredible musician in his own right. No, he's an absolute legend. Yes. Absolutely. And many collaboration with a guy who's a in the bookie band we'll get to later. Ian Blurton, who's also a good FOTM, but we'll get to him. Okay, John Critchley. John Critchley, oh, he's on the lineup. Awesome. He, I, the way that I know John is that he owns a studio that I rehearse at, um, called Green Door on Sororan, but I know that he's also made records for a lot of people like Dan Mangon's a first record, I think he made. You know, that's a great old folk song, uh, behind the green door. But I learned that song.
Starting point is 00:14:25 this is a strange story is that I know that song because I owned a mini-pop's album when I was a little boy and on that mini-pops album was a kid covering the green door. So the songs I... Stupid Cupid is another one I knew. I know that song, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:41 But I only knew it from mini-pops. Like, you don't hear a stupid Cupid in the wild too often. But stupid Cupid's the picking on me. Okay. Back to the list here because here's another FOTM. Oh, this will tie into somebody I'm going to ask you about in a moment who's aligned with broken social scene,
Starting point is 00:14:57 but also by divine right, of course, Jose, Contreras, FOTM, Jose. Yeah, I know Jose, by divine right, also such a classic Toronto band, known Jose through the scene for years, and he's also a really lovely guy. Josh Salter. Don't know Josh. Josh, we apologize.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We need to learn more about Josh Salter. Katie Kruehl. Katie Kruehl, Kate Boothman. She's so awesome. I think she lives in Coburg, but I saw her at this event a couple years ago. The replacements one? Yeah, exactly. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Here's a guy who just made his Toronto mic debut earlier this year because he's behind the new documentary that is about Nash of the Slash. I'm referring to Kevin Byrne, but he's there with Rebecca Campbell. Rebecca Campbell, I know through, I feel like she makes like kind of avant-garde. She's in the jazz. Cut flowers? Yeah, Dono cut flowers. Okay. But you know Kiwi Jr.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I do know Kiwi Jr. Yeah, they're an awesome band. I've played with them before. Okay, we're going to cook with gas here. I feel like it's going to be 90 minutes on the lineup. But then I'll say goodbye. You'll give you your stuff and you'll get out of here. Christy Lane, St. Clair.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Yes, I met her, I think, through Kevin Drew from Broken Social Scene. And, yeah, she's a really cool person. I'm working on getting Kevin Drew on Toronto Mic. Because, of course, the new manager of Broken Social Scene, is none other than Jake Gold. Did you know this? I did know this, I think, yeah. Okay, well, you know, Jake's a butt.
Starting point is 00:16:32 I'm going to... Cool. I need Kevin Drew and trying to mic. Okay, so Kyla Marlina. Don't know Kyla. Lee Rose. Lee Rose, also from Ace of Wands, awesome band.
Starting point is 00:16:45 She's great. Mad Folk. Don't know Mad Folk. Nightmares in the afternoon. Don't know them either. Oh, no, I'm just telling you about my day yesterday. full of nightmares in the afternoon. Okay. Nixon Boyd.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Nixon Boyd from Colorado. I think he lives in Aurelia now, and he's got a kiddo too, and yeah, stoked that he's going to be there. On that note, I don't know if I finished that thought of who did Elliot Lefko send over last year?
Starting point is 00:17:11 So this year, he's like, he tapped you on the shoulder and said, get your ass to Toronto Mike's basement, and I appreciate you being here, okay? But last year, I think I started it. I said Brendan Canning. But the other guy was Meno Versteig.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Meno Versteig. Meno. Yeah. Mino, Meno, you know, he had a different, he had like a fake name too. It'll come to me at some point. Oh, Mav Carlo. Yes, there you go. Mav Carlo.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Okay, for people like me who can't say Mano or Meno. Okay. So, yeah, shout out to Colorado. Piner. Piner, Clea is from Kingston. She's an amazing young artist. I love her songs. I can't wait for the first name I say and you're like, yeah, I know them and they suck.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Okay. The rural Alberta advantage, easy for you to say. I've met all of those folks. We've gotten to know. Well, I guess we don't know each other well. We've just kind of orbited for a number of years, but they're a cool band. Okay. And I hope this isn't painful.
Starting point is 00:18:02 I realize when I started this, I'm like, oh yeah, I need to run down this list. I can throw down. Okay, good, because I'm going to butcher this pronunciation too. Shakura Seida. Shakura Saida. Saida. Yeah. Saida.
Starting point is 00:18:14 An amazing, amazing, amazing singer. Sean's the owner of the garrison. And I don't know if you've ever seen the movie Roadkill. Of course I have. Yeah, he's the star of that film. So, Road, it's because there's a McDonald's, right? These are... Yeah, I think it's Bruce McDonald.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And Joey Ramon is in that movie. So, I mean, I'm thinking now of my friends an acid test who had a great song called Mr. Skin that shows up in, I think it was Highway 61 Revisited. Is that like a sequel to this or whatever? I don't know. Okay, this whole universe is totally rad because that's what gets us. I think that leads to hardcore logo. Did you ever see Hardcore logo?
Starting point is 00:18:52 How have I not seen Hardcore logo? I don't know, but I haven't. And the character, Billy Talent, played by Callum Keith Rennie, which of course is eventually a band from Streetsville would name themselves after that character. Yes, yes. Yeah, but they changed the spelling of talent, as I recall.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Okay, Toro. Toro. Toro. God, thank God you're here. Cynthia Toro, Brendan Canning's bandmate. I don't think Brendan's going to be at the show because he's there on a broken social. He's not on the list.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Yeah. He's got bigger fish to fry maybe. But Cynthia's a really great, really great singer. Wax Manikin. Wax Manikin, I know him as a Hamilton guy. He's also been around for a really long time on the scene, and he's a really cool performer. And I was trying to go alphabetically,
Starting point is 00:19:37 and I skipped triples. Don't have triples. Okay, good. Now, please, Mike, don't butcher this pronunciation again. Zinia. Okay, Zinia, I will rave about because she's one of my best friends. Okay, let's go. Okay, spend another minute on.
Starting point is 00:19:50 civics because the rest is just the bookie band which is Ian Blurden and Jody Bramel and Jude Ruehl and Anacretic I'm gonna open this okay so can you tell us what you're gonna drink there and it's gonna be all Charlotte there's the way after you rave about Zinia oh Sam James hot pop with coffee cool okay so that is from Great Lakes brewery because I offered
Starting point is 00:20:08 you a beer and you said no and then I said what about a hop pop there's no alcohol in it so enjoy that Great Lakes beverage it's a hop pop delicious this is cool this is a cool beverage you're gonna dig it you're gonna dig it and then I'm gonna send home with you, Charlotte, some fresh craft beer that you may enjoy. Sounds great.
Starting point is 00:20:25 And then I'll do this right now. And then we're going to hear about Zinia and then we're going to dive into your life and times and play some Charlotte. Let me tell you that in my freezer upstairs, I have a delicious frozen lasagna for you that was sent by Palma Pasta. They're in Mississauga in Oakville. Go to palma pasta.com. You'll love it.
Starting point is 00:20:45 It's delicious. Do you like Italian food? Yes. That's amazing. Incredible news. I was sweating when I asked that question. Hopefully, because once in a while I'll have like, I don't know, Biff naked, for example, and I'll be like, I got a lasagna.
Starting point is 00:20:56 She's like, well, I can't eat cheese. And obviously no meat, so I'd have to get her vegetarian, but no cheese. It's hard to find a cheeseless lasagna. Yeah, it's hard. My partner is vegan. I eat cheese. My daughter eats cheese, so we will eat the lasagna. You're going to, thank.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Okay, your partner is S-O-L. Okay, S-O-L. I won't tell you what that stands for. Tell me, oh, let me give you one more gift. So we're talking on a Friday. your event of the garrison for a good cause in memory of bookie is tomorrow that is saturday may 9th i actually am committed to be at the danforth music hall because i went last year and i would definitely bike to the garrison it's so close but i've decided i'm biking to danforth music hall because i'm going to see lowest of the logg's because they came over to talk about 35 years since shakespeare my butt and it's awesome so but i will be there in spirit but i want to give you a book about the history of toronto maple leaves baseball because the home opener is Sunday, 2 p.m. Christy Pits, no ticket required. I want everybody to get off their butts and get to Christy Pits for 2 o'clock. Let's see what UCL Pueg can do at Christy Pits.
Starting point is 00:22:06 I love this because I grew up really close to Christy Pits and I would go to those games sometimes. Amazing. Yeah. And tickets are on me, everybody. Get to Christy Pits this Sunday at 2 p.m. I think it's going to be totally rad. I'm looking forward to it. So another great season of Maple Leaf Baseball here. So, and last but not least, uh,
Starting point is 00:22:25 in the gift front, I have a measuring tape for you, Charlotte from Ridley Funeral Home. Cool. We actually just recorded yesterday a fresh episode of Brad Jones's podcast. It's called Life's Undertaking. And we actually recorded video and stuck that on the Ridley
Starting point is 00:22:40 Funeral Home Facebook page. So if you want to see my handsome face, you can see it there. You can see Brad. But of course, uh, Life's Undertaking is available wherever you get your podcast. And while I'm,
Starting point is 00:22:49 shouting out podcasts. Nick Aienes has a popular and slightly controversial, but not Nick's fault, a podcast called Building Toronto Skyline, and I urge listeners to check that out. And there's another one with Nick called Mike and Nick. I'm the Mike in that title. And that's available also wherever you get your podcast. So thank you to Nick Aeneas from Fusion Corp. All right, Charlotte. Tell me a bit about Zinia, your dear friend, and then let's get to know you. Yeah. So, so Zinia is Rachel Cardiello who is a very close friend of mine and on my last record could have done anything
Starting point is 00:23:25 I have a song called Walking with Rachel and she's the Rachel from that song and her project Zinia is amazing and I just love her music so much we've collaborated a ton over the years and I'm so excited that she's gonna be there and I think I'm gonna sing with her on this song. Love it. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Okay so that's a little teaser. Spoiler alert. Okay. All right. So you're a Toronto gal but like I know you lived in Montreal, you lived in Brooklyn. So like maybe take me back. So what's the Charlotte Cornfield origin story? Like when did you realize you wanted to make music? Really early on, I started taking piano lessons when I was a kid and I really liked it.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I started playing drums at 12. I would come out to Atobico and take jazz piano lessons. And it was just the thing that I loved. And then around 12, I got really. into Joni Mitchell and Neil Young, Bob Dylan, and started writing songs on the classical guitar. And that was kind of that. Honestly, it's been a lifelong pursuit.
Starting point is 00:24:31 Lifelong pursuit. So I mentioned what brought you to Montreal? I went to Montreal to study jazz drumming at Concordia University. And then I did my degree there and stayed for a couple years after that. The, oh, so on the lives, I just popped into the live stream and DJ dream doctor is there and just says you look exactly like his niece. So do you have an uncle, an uncle DJ dream doctor? Definitely not. So what did you think of Montreal? My daughter, my, my oldest daughter, just like she literally wrote her last exam like a couple of weeks ago at
Starting point is 00:25:07 McGill. And she has decided that she's going to rent a place and stick around. Like so she's done school now where I originally thought she was going to do four years at McGill and then come back to Toronto, the rent prices are better in Montreal. Oh, yeah, for sure. She's sticking around. So shout out to Michelle, who's actually, I talked to her yesterday on WhatsApp and she was in Ireland heading for Scotland because she's doing a little European thing before she starts working full time. She's going to miss, she'll be in Europe. She is going to miss my Elma combo debut, which is May 21st. So I'm just saying less than two weeks from now, I'm going to be headlining at the Elmo. and tickets are available.
Starting point is 00:25:47 If you go to Torontomike.com and you click Elmo Gig, buy a couple of tickets to see me. You mentioned piano. I have a keyboard prodigy, Rob Pruse on stage of me, and he'll be there to add some audio elements, but I'm doing like a 90-minute thing
Starting point is 00:26:03 with a grand finale with super surprised guests. It might be you, Charlotte. Who knows? But that's happening in May 21, and I wanted to make sure the listenership knew. Cool. Okay, so Montreal. Yeah. What did you think of Montreal?
Starting point is 00:26:16 I loved it. It was such an amazing place to live and to like cut my teeth and the music scene. And I lived in the Myland for four years, which is just like this epicenter of music making and incredible community. And yeah, I just love Montreal. But you didn't stay. I didn't stay because as an Anglo in Montreal, my dad's actually from Montreal. He's like Jewish Montrealer. as in Anglo in Montreal I felt like there was a sort of a limit
Starting point is 00:26:45 to what I could do and then I had always wanted to live in New York so I went there for a couple years and then came back here Speaking of broken social scene Living in Montreal is Amy Amy Milan from Stars Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah Amy and Evan And Amy and Emily Haynes were BFFs Atatobical School of the Arts Yeah and Kevin Drew is I think A couple years behind them And that's why I get because I'm going to ask you about Brooklyn in a minute. And I keep hearing about metric, this New York band.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And I feel like I'm becoming a metric truther who needs to remind people that this is actually a Toronto band. Who says that metric's a New York band? I've never heard. Emily. Well, Emily is doing press and talks about coming back to where it all began, New York City. Like, she's definitely spinning metric as a New York band. I'm telling you, I'll send you some links. They formed there, I think.
Starting point is 00:27:37 No, they formed here. Then they go there. and they absolutely are in New York for that whole, you know, strokes explosion and all that jazz. Everybody, this is well documented. And they come back here and they've been here ever since. That's a Toronto band formed here. Yeah. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I feel like now I know how those rush fans feel when I say that's not Neil Peart saying subdivisions. But okay. So we'll do a few tangents like that. But when do you go to Brooklyn? 2012. Okay. So, and again, I'm trying to just. So you go to Montreal for school, you come back to Toronto, right?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Or do you go to Brooklyn? No, I went to Brooklyn first. Okay. So Toronto, Montreal, Brooklyn, and then back to Toronto. Tell me about Brooklyn. Yeah, I loved living there. I was, I was broke and working odd jobs and in love and trying to make it all work. And so I eventually came back to Canada without really succeeding at that.
Starting point is 00:28:37 but I love, I have so many dear friends there, and there's just such an amazing music scene and everything. And just walking down the street there, I feel like there's so much inspiration per square inch of that city. Okay, and I hear that. You know, Montreal's got a great history itself, and Brooklyn's got this amazing history itself. But Toronto's got a great history too.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Oh, yeah, totally. I will admit that when I left Toronto at the age of 17, I was underage still. So I hadn't really lived, obviously, as an adult in the city, but I was so, like, I got, I'm ready to get out of here. Sure. Burn this place down. I don't like it. It's conservative.
Starting point is 00:29:18 It's all the things that I don't like. Do you find a conservative? No. Toronto was so different from, A, what I thought it was then, and B, how it used to be. I think it's an amazing city with so much going on it. And a lot of, like, a cost of living crisis. and a lot of things, a lot of challenges, but the community, the life, everything in the city is,
Starting point is 00:29:44 is, I love it so much. But you hit the nail on the head there of the cost of living crisis. Like, I think this is severe. I mean, how many, I mean, we mentioned Wolf Island. Well, the reason so many of our great artists are suddenly in Hamilton or up north or whatever, or they're in, on Wolf Island or wherever they're going. Toronto is an expensive place to live right now And it is very difficult as a Canadian musician
Starting point is 00:30:09 Who isn't named, you know, Gordon Lightfoot or whatever To make a living like I feel for you Yeah, it's it's uh I mean yeah I I feel fortunate in my living situation That my partner owns the house that we live in But many of my friends have had to leave the city Or just have a compromise
Starting point is 00:30:31 Like a back and forth Toronto thing or take out of room. Port Hope and stuff like that. I feel like you have to push it further and further because I think there was a time not that long ago. I remember, I'm older than you. But where you were like, oh, if I can't afford to live in Toronto,
Starting point is 00:30:44 I can have a mansion in Barry. Okay, this was like a time. There was a time like this. And that's so long gone where now you're outpriced. Like, Barry's too expensive. Yeah, it's within like basically 500 kilometers in any direction. So what does that do to a city's,
Starting point is 00:31:00 you know, musical? vibe and a scene. Like that's going to devastate a music scene, I would think. Yeah, I think about this often because I, A, I used to be a venue, like a booker. I managed and directed Burdock Music Hall on Blur and Dufferin for four years. And B, I'm on the Toronto Music Advisory Council, which is a committee at City Hall that advocates for music in the city. And so I think a lot about the wearing my artist hat about all of the people who are leaving and all the incredibly talented folks who can't afford to live here. I think long term that will have really negative effects on the music community. It's a damn shame. And I do repeat myself often, because I remember having
Starting point is 00:31:50 conversations with artists and some artists that, you know, you'll hear on Q107 20 times today, right? Like I'm thinking of Kim Mitchell, right? So Kim Mitchell, successful artist, he's all over. It was all over much music all over Q and other stations. Of course, a lot of big hits in this country. And then you hear about, yeah, like when they were getting started and making no money, like they could all live in a house for like a hundred bucks each a month or whatever. And even in today's dollars, it's so reasonable. Like you can afford to be a starving artist. Yeah. Yeah. Like even when when my partner Nelson bought his first, his condo was as a,
Starting point is 00:32:26 after graduating from O-CAD at 22, like you could do that then. Now it's like an O-CAD graduate. do it as lucky if they can, you know, do anything. Oh, you know, you know, and even, we peaked, I think it was a few years ago, this real estate peak and we have come down like a titch. Like I kind of monitor it, you know, as a hobby or whatever. But you're still, if you, you know, even today you need something like, you only at least 600K or something, if you want to buy something like something tiny. Yeah, the barrier for entry is just, it's extreme unless people have wild salaries or family.
Starting point is 00:32:57 You need family. You know what? What's going to happen is our musicians are all going to. to be children of well-to-do people. I mean, that's going to be who's going to afford, be able to afford to buy places. Well, a house down the street went for a million bucks, and I was talking to the guy because he was moving, he himself was moving to, I get these names all confused. It's, what's like near Bolton?
Starting point is 00:33:22 It starts with a C, and that's terrible. I can't remember the name. Clarington? No, I actually don't know. No, you know what? Let's tap out of that one. Okay, I'll fix this in post. Charlotte, I'll fix it in post.
Starting point is 00:33:30 But regardless, he's talking about the young couple that's moving in. I'm like, how does a young couple in 2026, how do they bite? I couldn't afford a million dollar home today. And he gave me that look and he says, parents are helping. Like, that's the only way. Yeah, and it's, yeah, it's. Where's my generational wealth, Charlotte? I'm going off here.
Starting point is 00:33:49 Okay, okay. So tell me a little bit about, okay, so you, I mean, a little more, maybe, I'll teach more about, like, what did Brooklyn teach you? And then why did you come back to Toronto? I think. What drew me to New York was the incredible history of music and art there, but also there are more people there and there is more going on. And the level of music and art was just so high. And so I was just really inspired by that.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And we also have so much great stuff happening here. But I will say that it's just a much bigger city and things happen on a bigger scale there. Sure. So I think I took back some of that energy and inspiration. and brought it to Toronto. And when I got back here, I was really excited about my buddies were opening Burdock and they needed someone to run the venue.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And so my friend Adrian Underhill and I did that started doing that and then I eventually was, that was my gig. And it was just so cool to have, to be so exposed to so much amazing stuff that was happening locally. And then what, tell me a bit about your music, right? Like, I mean, I could run down a bio and, you know, Your third full-length album is long-listed for the 2019 Polaris Prize, and there's critical acclaim.
Starting point is 00:35:08 And you toured of some very cool musicians, including one band. We've already mentioned about 12 times. I feel like we've hit the limit there. Broken Social Scene? Yeah, like you toured with Broken Social Scene. In 2015, I went and did a residency at the Banff Center in Alberta, and the mentors for that program were Brendan Canning, Charles Spear, and Kevin Drew. and so I connected with the, I had met Brendan before, but I really connected with them.
Starting point is 00:35:34 And they, I, yeah, they, at the time I wasn't, I had gone through a lot of stuff in my personal life. I wasn't totally sure what the role of professional music would be in my life. And they just were so confident in what I was doing. And they really believed in me and that still means a lot. That's amazing. And of course, Brendan Canning, most famous for being heard on the, Len hit single, Steal My Sunshine, LP version. Talks about butter tarts. And he, you know, he came over.
Starting point is 00:36:07 He definitely owns the fact. He says he introduced that sample. The Andrea True Connection, more, more, more, how do you like it? Like that is, that is, I will say broken social scene. That is steal my sunshine. And he brought that to the band. Yeah, I mean, I don't know too much about the history of it.
Starting point is 00:36:24 I'm telling you now, Charlotte. But I did text him once. I was on tour and I was in a grocery store. or in Columbus, Ohio, and steal my sunshine came on, and I texted Brendan, and it was just like, every time I hear this song. Yeah, well, me too. One of the great Toronto singles in terms of pop hits.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yep. I can't argue that. Okay. But shout out, because I'm going to see him on Sunday. Shout out to Snow and Informer, which did go to number one on the Billboard Hot 100 for seven weeks in a row. Wait, is snow coming here? Well, snow's being here. He's coming back here.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Oh, cool. I hung with him. I was at this event last week hanging with the guy. Once you get in the Snowman's orbit, it's unbelievable. But he's coming back here. He's actually got new music. It's been a while. And Snow is going to come back to the basement.
Starting point is 00:37:06 We got to talk more. He got banned by every bay in the country for stealing. Every bay? Every bay. Hudson Bay. Oh, so he was a kleptomaniac? He, well, you know what? That's your homework.
Starting point is 00:37:18 To listen to the snow episode, you got to hear about his origin story because, yeah, he was a young thug. Well, thank you for the music snow if you hear this. Listen, I'll send it to him. Are you kidding me? No, I'm not, I know, it sounds like, you know, you're dropping the names. I don't hang of Brendan Canning. Like, he came over and we say hi when we see each other. I was saying hi to him at the last Garrison event last year.
Starting point is 00:37:39 But Snow literally, we text each other often and we are actually buds, okay? So I'm just throwing that at you, Charlotte. You're blown away. Got to put it on here. One more guy you toured with, I want to ask you about because I love the guy's music. Tim Baker. Yeah, I loved him from the band Hey Rosetta and has put out some really great solo records. Hey Rosetta, I think they had the same problem
Starting point is 00:38:00 as broken, not a problem, but the same thing is broken social scene where there was like 400 members of the band like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think all of Newfoundland has been members of Heroes But what a band? Yeah, seeds and all that. It's just so good. So good.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Okay, so just a little bit about, we're going to get to your most recent album, which is called Hertz Like Hell. But maybe along the way, like, like, how do you put out music? Like, did you sign with an indie record label? Like, just give me a little bit of the business. side of the whole thing. Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:38:29 I was self-releasing music up until 2018 when I signed with Nextdoor records, which is the sister label of outside music. And shout out Evan Newman from outside music, Nextdoor records. And I was the first, my record, the shape of your name was the first release under Nextdoor. And that was 2019. That was 2019. And then
Starting point is 00:38:56 I signed for, the US and world. I stayed with Nextdoor for Canada and then signed with polyvinyl and double double whammy for my last two records, which were highs in the minuses in 2021 and could have done anything in 2023. And now I'm with Merge Records. Cool label. Very cool label. I'm still so honored. So I'm with Merge and Next Door in Canada. Can we hear the title track from this new album? Yes. You can't stop me, Charlotte. It's my show. Okay. I'm playing. it. It took a lot for you to drive over.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It took getting over it. Letting loose on the front lawn, shorts and boots on hose running on a low drip. You had to shed your armor a little bit. Stop thinking you weren't wanted. Had to get out of your house. That place was feeling kind of haunted. You took a drive. To the guy
Starting point is 00:40:10 Karen said you can't make it if you never even try And you can't feel the wind blow if you never go outside I shall for a minute It's so hard to tell when you're in it Because it hurts like hell when you're in it How do you shell for a minute you could even rip out for a minute Charlotte When you get it
Starting point is 00:40:50 Because it hurts like hell Some confusion in his eyes Hair long and wild as hell When he opened the door You didn't stay to get a reaction Didn't give yourself time for traction You just bolted Crest falling
Starting point is 00:41:16 Crying in your car Thinking how appalling Charlotte has got us my witness I plan to play 30 seconds and faded down. But I, this song slays, man. This is great. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Who's the other voice with you? That's Buck Meek from the band Big Thief. Tell me a little bit about hurts like hell. Is this autobiographical? What's hurting you? This song is, I wouldn't say it's autobiographical because I sort of made up the story. But it is in the sense that I can relate to the emotions. But really it's about somebody who is trying to get over their,
Starting point is 00:42:18 Yeah, just like self-loathing and like confident. They're in a crisis of confidence, but they're trying to put themselves out there in this case in a romantic way that is reciprocated. And I just like the story of it. It's kind of a, I think it's a really nice story. Get out of your shelf for a minute. If you're even red bell for a minute, it's so hard to tell when you're in. Because it hurts like hell when you're in. I do you shell for a minute you can even roll a bell for a minute.
Starting point is 00:42:56 It's so hard to tell when you, because it hurts like hell, when it just hurts like hell when you end. It just hurts like hell when you. It just hurts like hell when you. It hurts like hell. So when it comes time to name this album, do you just say like, well, let's name it after that banger. Not really.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I was trying to think about what sort of summed up the sentiment of the album. And I thought it was kind of funny because this song is obviously called Harts Like Hell. But there's also a song about childbirth or the moments right after childbirth, which hurts like hell. And then just this idea of that things hurt like hell. It hurts like hell when you're in it. But then you move to the other side. And I really see this record as being written from being on the other side of something. So we haven't mentioned her name yet.
Starting point is 00:44:08 We've been teasing that there's somebody else associated with the broken social scene that we're going to talk about right now. But, you know, I get these press releases. And one of them was talking about who's being inducted into the, I've got to get the title right, Canadian songwriters Hall of Fame. I think Canadian Music Hall of Fame. See, I knew I'd butcher that. That's why you're, honestly, you'd make a great co-host because you'd be like the Robert Lawson. I've been looking for fact-checking me left, right and center. But so a band I've always loved.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Like I said, I'm much older. than you. I was around for when up to here dropped, okay, but the tragically hip. So I'm like, oh, the tragically hip are being inducted. Okay, that's pretty cool. You know, speaking to J. Gold. And then I see a lot, and it's so appropriate because in the history of the tragically hip, only two people have sang lead vocals. Do you want to name the two people who have sang lead vocals for the tragically hip in the history of that band? Gordani and Leslie Feist. That's correct. Come to bar trivia with me. You could be my help me out here. Okay, so Leslie Feist. So can we spent a moment in talk about Leslie Feist?
Starting point is 00:45:09 Yeah. You may start this because I've never met the woman. I'd love to, but I only know of her illustrious musical history. But how do you know Feist? Well, I've been a fan of hers forever, and we have a few mutual friends, but hadn't really connected. And then we're in this, we're all, we're in a group chat for touring moms together. And through that, she reached out to me, I think, about my last record and I was blown away because I had starstruck because I'm such a fan of hers. And then we were just in touch a little bit and it came time to make this record. I was chatting with Phil, the producer, who's a friend of hers as well. And we both thought, wow, wouldn't it be great to get Leslie to sing, but we were both nervous
Starting point is 00:45:53 about it. And then Phil, without even telling me, he asked her and she said yes. And so, yeah, she ended up laying down a really beautiful vocal on the song Living with it. Well, I'm going to play if that's cool. Yeah. Okay. So, not to bury the lead here, but Feist is on one of the songs on your latest album, Harts Like Hell. Yes. That's cool. That whole scene, right? So there were, in Canada,
Starting point is 00:46:15 so, the Toronto scene was kind of coming out of Broken Social scene, and there's so many, like, parallel bands and associated bands, be it, I don't know, metric, you know, there's so many bands that come out with Broken Social Feist, of course, their solo career and everything, peaches and all this stuff. And then you kind of look at what's going on in Montreal, and then
Starting point is 00:46:31 arcade fires coming out of Montreal and then the album funeral and then Wolf Parade which is having a, they're having a moment because of heated rivalry. And I love that song for the minute I heard it back in,
Starting point is 00:46:44 I think it was 2004. I'm trying to remember at least over 20 years ago. That's a tremendous song. I'll believe in anything. Yeah. Incredible song. Incredible song.
Starting point is 00:46:52 But you have all these stuff. You know, there's a Vancouver scene, hot hot heat and new pornographers. New porn. Absolutely. Thank you. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Use it tonight. Okay, so we have all this whole indie rock explosion in Canada. And I feel like it takes about 20 years for nostalgia to kick in or whatever. And now that we're kind of 20 years removed from, you know, funeral and what's the Queen Mary, whatever the album? Apologies to the... Apologies. You're so good at this. And broken.
Starting point is 00:47:18 So, you know, I forgot it in people and all these things. And Feist and... And now is the time where everybody's just revisiting that amazing indie rock explosion in Canada. Yeah. I think Feist is having, I think Feist is experiencing a renaissance, a resurgence, and people are talking about her story again. I think it's a hot, sexy topic. Well, she also put out an incredible record in 2023 called Multitudes that, yeah, I think people, the live show with that accompanied that record was stunning and, like, groundbreaking in so many ways. So, yeah, I feel like she's never, she's been here the whole time.
Starting point is 00:47:56 She's been with us. She's been here the time, but her commercial peak, of course, is one, two, three, four. right without a doubt and she clearly doesn't want to do that again like i think it's so cool that she's always stayed true to her art and always done what has felt right to her artistically and every single record that she's made is like incredible she's a true artist true talented artist absolutely and i love the fact she's not pursuing commercial fame and success i think it's so cool because it's like there's this script of what's supposed to happen when you when you start picking up and it's all about this whole thing about growth.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Well, for me, it's always so much more inspiring to see people like that. Also, I'm going to go on the record as telling you a better song than one, a better popular song than one, two, three, four is Mushabum. I think that's a better song. I mean, she's got so, so, so, so many. And My Moon, My Man is also on the heated rivalry soundtrack and blown up right now. Okay, well, without further ado here, I'm going to play a song called Living With It,
Starting point is 00:48:56 and this is featuring Feist and this is you Charlotte so let's listen to this one I took it from the video so you might get it. It's not a I remember where we were when you said it
Starting point is 00:49:11 and I'll never forget it I remember everything about our hotel rooms with the double locked doors in between and how I couldn't breathe when you left Filled with a mixture, thrilling regretting, guilt and desire.
Starting point is 00:49:44 The day you talked to me was wild and true, that half smile and that glowing you. Your faded blue wagon, your steely-eyed stare, your signature salt and pepper hair. You said, is this the house? I said yeah, that's me right there, but I didn't get out. I just better ever with it than you are, but I'm the one crying in my car, telling you to go and I want you to stay. Maybe I'm getting in my own way, or maybe I'm too afraid to throw it all away. When you said it, I'll never forget it. I remember everything about our whispered calls when everyone else was asleep
Starting point is 00:51:05 disarmingly honest with those weathered features He said, you know I love you right And you reached for your t-shirt I still have your number I'll never delete it Do you still have rain? I'm just better and living with it than you are But I'm the one crying in my car
Starting point is 00:51:41 Telling you to go and I want you to stay Maybe I'm getting in my own way Or maybe I'm too afraid Maybe I'm just better at live with it than you are Well I'm the one crying in my car Telling you to go and I want you to stay Maybe I'm getting them out of the way Or maybe I'm too afraid to throw it away
Starting point is 00:52:09 Charlotte Cornfield As you listen to this in the headphones right now I want to know what are you thinking I still am pinching myself That Leslie is singing on it It's just I still hear it and I'm like, what? How did that happen? It's cool to hear it.
Starting point is 00:52:34 But it happened. I just heard it. Yeah. This is real life. You don't need to pinch yourself. We're here. If this was a fever dream, I'd be a lot more handsome here. Okay. So, Feist, what was it like collaborating with her? So cool. I mean, she's just such a generous, open-hearted, creative, brilliant person. And at every turn, she was just so, so amazing to work with on this.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And we also did a video together for it. So, yeah, just nothing but praise. Okay. Were you careful? Because I have a, like, I always have to tell myself, if somebody's coming over here that I've been a lifelong fan of and I've been, you know, had all their albums and all like, oh my God, I have to like tell myself like, don't be that fanboy guy. Like you have to kind of, you know, you're having a, you know, did you have to tell yourself, okay, maybe one sentence to Leslie about what her music meant to you and then just get to business?
Starting point is 00:53:29 Kind of, yeah. I don't know, you know what a fan girl. It's that balance of, I wanted her to know how much it meant to me. And I also didn't want to like, yeah, just. keep talking about it. So I was like, okay, let's be two human beings together and do this thing. And then you produced that great single there, a great song. Thank you. Yeah, amazing. Amazing. Okay. And I know the album really, by way, a couple, one fun fact is that we talked about how it's out on merge records and they also put out those early
Starting point is 00:53:57 arcade fire records to kind of tie it all together there. I did, you know, you just collaborated there with Leslie Feist, but have you collaborated with a guy, a future FOTM? I've been talking to his buddy Avi and we're going to make this happen. Joel Plaskett? I have. Yeah, I sang on Joel's, one of Joel's records, 44. I sang on one tune. And yeah, I love Joel. And his whole scene that he's got going in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia is so cool. I know he's back and forth. He's kind of bi-coastal at the moment, but yeah, just amazing. But we're not a coast. Well, he's actually bi-coastal between the West Coast and the East Coast. Well, he's going to, I want him in the basement, so he's going to have to carve out some Toronto
Starting point is 00:54:38 time. I know he's in town quite a bit. Okay. And just to, before we wrap things up with you, and again, you know, from two horses in 2011 and then Future Snowbird in 26. I just did an episode about snowbirds. Shout out to Ann Marie. Okay. So Future Snowbird 2016. The shape of your name, 2019. Highs and the minuses. 2021. Could have done anything, 23. Then you made a baby. Am I right? Yeah. Actually, my daughter was born like three weeks before could have done anything came out. Well, that's something you did. You could have done anything and you made a baby, okay? That's a miracle right there.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And then Hurtz Like Hell is the latest release. I'm told I wasn't there. I wish I was there, but I'm told you had a great record release performance at Sonic Boom. Yeah, the latest Sonic Boom. And then we did the release show at Lula Lounge and it was amazing. Leslie Feist came up and sang that tune with me. Wow. Big stars are out.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Okay. Oh, speaking of big star. So here's my question before I find it where you're up to know is, are you willing to reveal which big star song you chose for tomorrow night at the garrison? Totally, yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:41 I'm going to sing the song Big Black Car. No relation to Gino Vanelli's Black Cars. I don't know that song. Black cars look better in the shade. No. That's a,
Starting point is 00:55:53 because you don't remember the 80s. That's the problem, Charlotte. I was born in the late 80s. You don't remember the mid-80s in black cars, okay?
Starting point is 00:56:02 Can we get off black cars already? So what's next, obviously beyond the garrison tomorrow. And again, if people listening just show up at the garrison, I don't know what time to start. Seven, do you know? Think eight. Eight, okay. So you bring some non-perishable food items for the Daily Bread Food Bank,
Starting point is 00:56:18 and that is your ticket, okay? That is your ticket in the door. And then all those artists we named check off the top are going to perform big star songs. In honor of Bookie, did you ever meet Dave Bookman? No, and I'm sad I didn't because by all accounts, he was such an incredible person. but I'm so aware of his impact on the scene and everything he did for artists.
Starting point is 00:56:38 I have maximum respect for the man. I also did not meet Bokey, by the way. I had maximum respect for the man, but he didn't like me. So it's a sort of a weird dynamic. He didn't like me because of something I wrote when he was released from his duties at 102.1 before he ended up on Indy 88. He didn't like something I wrote and he let me know and then denied all my nice invitations to come chat about his great career.
Starting point is 00:57:01 But I was always a Bokey fan. So much love to Booky, and I'm glad Elliot Lefko and Stephen Stanley are putting on this event every year. I hope next year they don't do rush because Charlotte Cornfield will not participate. All right, so love the new music, love the old music. I actually pulled more songs at play, but I see the clock here. And I'm wondering if you could tell us, like, what's going on beyond the Garrison tomorrow? For sure, yeah. So I have a bunch of summer festivals coming up.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Artswells, Hillside, Northern Lights in Sudbury, something in Calgary, yeah, just a bunch of Canadian Summerfest, there's going to be a tour that'll get announced in June that's a bigger tour,
Starting point is 00:57:49 mostly U.S., but some Canada stuff. Oh, so you'll do that, eh? Because I have speaking of lowest of the low, they won't cross the border right now. And a a member of Sloan came over to say he's not crossing the border right now. Which member? Andrew Scott is the member who is not crossing the border.
Starting point is 00:58:07 He says, control your dogs, America. Don't invite me over to you control your dogs. I agree. But you got to make money. I got to go there. Well, and also, like, I just, I have so many incredible friends there who I love. And playing there feels important to me, but I understand. But get the Trump factor.
Starting point is 00:58:28 and forget the whole 51st state rhetoric and what's going on in the world. Is it tough to, because the rules are different for the Canadian artist who goes and plays in the States versus the American artist comes up here. Like is all that rigmarole difficult to navigate? Yeah, I mean, I've been on US visas for the last, I don't know, 13 years, I think. So I'm very accustomed to the process, but it is...
Starting point is 00:58:56 Pun intended, custom. Yeah. It is arduous and time consuming and money consuming. Well, yeah, because it doesn't sound fair to me that for you to play in the USA, regardless of politics, so let's remove that from the equation. It's the person, the American could just come up and play. Like, they just cross the border and say, I got a gig at the horseshoe, and then they come in and play.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I think it's, like, somewhat more complex than that. Like, I think they need a letter. I may be misled or something, but it's much easier for the Americans to come up here to play than for the Canadians to go down there and play. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, listen, I just met you and I really, really like you. I just want you to know Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Thank you. So nice to chat. Thanks for having me on the cast. And continued success. And I can't see it tomorrow, but I've got to catch you. Got to catch you because I love what I hear in the headphones and I can't wait to see you perform live. Thank you. And don't leave without that lasagna. Oh, and a pro tip.
Starting point is 00:59:51 I don't think I dropped this earlier, but I want to make sure you know Charlotte and all the Charlotte heads, all the cornfield heads out there. I love that surname. I guess I mentioned that off the top. But I want to make sure everybody knows that if you have old cables, old electronics, and old devices, maybe you've got some old phones you haven't worked in years. Don't throw that in the garbage because those chemicals end up in our landfill. So please go to RecycleMyElectronics.ca.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Put in your postal code and find out where you can drop all that off to be properly recycled. You got it, Charlotte? I got it. Awesome. And that. brings us to the end of our 1,897th show, 1897. Go to tronomomike.com for all your Toronto mic needs. By the way, Charlotte, you're going to hear a little bit of black cars in this closing theme.
Starting point is 01:00:43 I'll tell you when it comes up, okay? Elmo gig is May 21. That is less than two weeks from now. It's Robb Proust on stage at 7 p.m. Doors open at 6.30. Rob's on stage at 7, playing stuff on his keyboard. maybe he'll play. Who knows what he'll play?
Starting point is 01:00:59 But then at 8 o'clock, I grabbed the mic, and I don't give it up till 9.30 when special guests join me for a grand finale. I'd love to see you there. Like, I'd love to see anyone there. I hope it's not an empty room, Charlotte. Have you ever played to an empty room? Oh, yeah. Well, I'll be in that mom's group of you commiserating,
Starting point is 01:01:20 if that happens to me here. Okay. So I'm going to thank some partners and then hopefully nail the, black cards by Gino. This is performed by the way by Rob Prue, so I've mentioned several times. But the partners that made this all possible include Great Lakes Brewery.
Starting point is 01:01:36 You got your beer. That hop pop was good? Yeah, it's good. It's cool. Beautiful. Palm pasta. I've got your lasagna. But your partner doesn't get any. Toronto Maple Leafs Base Baseball. I am at Christy Pits for 2 p.m. on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Come check it out. No ticket required. unlike my Elmo gig. Nick Aienies, Recycle My Electronics.C.A. and, of course, Ridley Funeral Home. See you all next week.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Oh, so this is the subdivisions by Rush, we talked about. It's all these Easter eggs. Okay. So we just talked about that. That's Mr. Dressup. I know Mr. Dressup. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's the Zit Remedy from DeGrasi. Mm-hmm. Snake, Wheels, Joey. I have a song called Wheels About Wheels Oh, saddest story A story We'll talk about it
Starting point is 01:02:36 When we take up Here it is This is Black Cars By Gino Vanelli This is the Pocod Door So my next cast here Tuesday Dawn Pyle
Starting point is 01:02:57 Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet And isn't he also a barber? And he's also a barber Maybe he'll cut my hair Dawn Noon on the 12th

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