Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Cliff Hacking Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd #940

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Mike chats with Cliff Hacking about Recycle My Electronics before he kicks out the electronics-themed jams.

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Learn more at realestatelove.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me this week to kick out the jams with electronics themes is cliff hacking president and ceo of electronic products recycling association now cliff electronic products recycling association is a mouthful uh do i have your permission to refer to it as epra you do it would be a great thing to refer to it as. Or how about EPRA?

EPRA works as well. What we really like is recyclemyelectronics.ca because then you'll go right to the website and it's easy to remember. Recycle My Electronics. Okay, let's start with the big question. And again, we are going to be kicking out jams today with an electronics theme.

So this will be a great deal of fun. But Cliff, what is or who is Recycle My Electronics? Recycle My Electronics is a group that's put together by both manufacturers and retailers to make sure that we look after the obligations that we have to recycle end-of-life product. So if you can recycle it, then you should bring it to us. If you can reuse it, you should pass it on to somebody who can do that, whether it's somebody in your family or someone else that you know. Lots of places that do reuse, including Computers for Schools, which is a great organization, and we partner with them. But if you get to the end

of the life and it doesn't work anymore, you bring it to us and we will look after it. Why is it important to recycle electronics through Recycle My Electronics? Like, why not go somewhere else to recycle your electronics? Well, one of the things that we guarantee is that the material that comes back to us is destroyed and completely turned into material that can be reused in the manufacturing process. That guarantees that you don't have to worry about identity theft, any of your personal information that might be on there that you could be compromised by. So we guarantee all of that.

We also don't export to illegal countries. There'll be a lot of organizations out there, some of which even have acronyms that are similar to ours, that do some unethical things. And we don't. We are a very high standard company. We have our own audit function that we make sure we use to ensure that the products are being handled properly.

Well, here's a couple of names that FOTMs will recognize. First, let me channel my inner Barb Paluskowicz. Shout out to Barb Paluskowicz. How exactly are you protecting our data and security? Great question. So how we protect it is that all of the sites that we use, and we have over 2,500 collection sites across the country, but all of those sites are under contract to make sure that the material they gather is kept, secured, and then passed on directly to us and from us goes to a recycling facility where it is destroyed.

It is taken apart, batteries are removed. It essentially ends up in a shredder where they separate the plastic and the metal and all of that material then goes back into base products that can be used again. Like, do you even remove the SIM card? I mean, we're always upgrading our phones, and then I probably have a collection now of several old Android phones that are simply obsolete at this point.

But will you even remove the SIM card? I'll take those phones with me when I go. But you can take them also to Best Buy and Staples. They're great places, and we'll take back your old electronics. But no, we don't remove the SIM cards. We grind them up. They end up, as do the circuit boards, there is valuable metal and material in there

and they get ground up through a shredder, usually through a vibration belt then to separate them and you end up with material that you can use again. And now that I reconsider that question, it's probably best practice that before I drop off my phone, I remove the SIM card. It is better for sure. And it's better to fold it. And,

you know, if you have a drill, you can drill it or you can cut it with scissors, all those things work. And I do those things myself. But it's good that we're having our data and security protected there. Now, here's a question I'll ask on behalf of Dr. Diane Sachs, who was, by the way, the last Environmental Commissioner of Ontario. Friend, she's an FOTM like yourself now, Cliff, and she's got a great podcast called Green Economy Heroes. And at some point soon, I'm sure we'll hear you on that show. But be very specific, if you don't mind.

Where exactly will my electronics go? Well, let's say you took it back to Best Buy. From there, we would send a truck to pick it up. It would be taken from there to one of several processing facilities that are here in Ontario, although there are many across the country. But you would likely end up at one of two, either e-cycle, which is a Martin-owned family. Martin as in the former politician, prime minister. Paul Martin. Paul Martin, that's the guy. His sons

run two businesses, one of which is responsible for E-Cycle. They are in Mississauga and, you know, if you wanted to go on tour of the plant, we could set that up. They'd love to have you there. The second one that is in the city here that it's really convenient to go to is called adl and it is uh kind of uh keel and dundas if i can say it that way um and very close to the home depot there the junction uh is that canadian tire still there or am i dating myself it is still there it's been it's been redone and in fact that's one of my favorite places to shop is the junction i am at those places all the time. All right. Well, I'm going to shout out another institution there. So I grew up not far from there and Jumbo Burgers. Okay.

And I think that's a run of meat in Dundas, if I'm picturing in my head. But going there for, you know, for a Jumbo Burger and fries was like standard, especially if you're going to play hockey at George Bell Arena. Like that's a great, great neighborhood. Great Toronto memories, and all of that is good. And I actually worked for Canadian Tire for five years. Great institution. Love them. Shout out to Can Tire there.

And shout out to George Bell Arena. So my now 19-year-old played approximately 10 years of house league at George Bell. I literally, you know, that was like a part of my life once a week i would sit i called it the lonely end of the rink shout out to the tragically hip uh because i would sit in the end and i'd watch my boy play house league and i loved it but i don't live near that neighborhood anymore and my seven-year-old just started house league in fact his first game is actually on uh, Halloween. And we have switched arenas. So now I'm adapting to my new home base of Mimico Arena.

And it's interesting when you did 10 years at one barn and now you're kind of adapting to a new one. And the biggest change, I think, is I cannot sit in the lonely end of the rink because they only have seating on the side. So I'm trying to find out, where do normal people sit when they watch a house league game?

That's a great question. So back to Mimico for a second, though. I grew up skating there, playing hockey there. Before they had a cover on top of the building, it was an outdoor rink. And it's a nice facility. And I also worked at the grocery store that's right adjacent to that,

so it used to be a Dominion in the old days. Now it's a No Frills. Yeah. Shout out to Mario and Selena. I believe it's their No Frills. It's funny you mentioned it used to be an outdoor. I had no idea. I do know that MLSC recently remodeled it and fixed it up.

It's actually quite nice in there now. But another Etobicoke institution that used to be outdoors that I did not realize was outdoors because I only know it as an indoor place. Do you want to guess where I'm going with this? I'll help you out. It's a tough one. Cloverdale Mall.

Oh, yeah. So speaking of the Cloverdale Mall, apparently before my time was an outdoor mall. My mother has told me about that and I understand that it was open down the middle, and she has described it to me. She loved the hot oven bakery there. That's still there.

That's great. And the home hardware there is like no other. That's where you get your discounted chocolate and all these treats. Love the Cloverdale Mall. Actually, there's an episode in the archive of Toronto Mike where we dove deep Love the Cloverdale Mall. Actually, there's an episode in the archive of Toronto Mike where we dove deep into the Cloverdale Mall because we did the same thing with the Galleria Mall.

And here's a little piece of news for you, Cliff, before we get back to the electronics. The McDonald's at the Galleria Mall has just closed. This is the breaking news at this hour. That's an institution in itself, Dufferin and DuPont. It sure is. And I drive by there quite regularly. There's a place that I play tennis at that causes me to drive along DuPont quite regularly.

Right. So we mourn the loss of the gallery of mall McDonald's. Okay. Electronics. We're going to be kicking out electronics themed jams in just a moment. But Cliff, what types of electronics can be recycled? We're going to be kicking out electronics-themed jams in just a moment. But Cliff, what types of electronics can be recycled? That's a great question.

So it varies province to province. We'll start with British Columbia. British Columbia will take everything with a battery and a plug. So you can't think of anything that you can't recycle out there. They are really good at it. And the East Coast is pretty close. Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, really up there in terms of the list of things that you can recycle.

But then after that, it varies by province. And if you go to recyclemyelectronics.ca, we do post what you can bring back by province. But for the most part, it is what you would call core electronics. So televisions, displays, computers, cell phones, printers, all of the things that you would use, whether it's a VCR or an old beta machine, any of those kinds of things, a fax machine, which people don't have much anymore. We get lots of those back. CRT televisions, we're still getting those back.

So all of that is a different thing. They weigh a ton too. You need some help to carry those. I had a 27-inch Sony Trinitron, and this is a while ago now, but at some point I realized, okay, flat screens are here and time to bury. That thing must have weighed, I think, I don't know, 200 pounds. It was unbelievable. Yeah.

And that's an interesting segue because one of the things that we have noticed in terms of measuring success is that because things are getting lighter, we end up, the light weighting is going on in everything. So if you look at your phone, you've got a camera in it now. So you have to go and buy your own separate camera. So we're seeing an awful lot of this. And so the weights of what we collect are coming down, not the number of units, but it's hard to measure units when things come back in a big box, but the weights are certainly coming down over time. And we're seeing that as a result of exactly what you described. And I'm glad you repeated that URL because if somebody is listening now,

anticipating the electronics themed jams, and they need to revisit some of these facts we're spitting out here, recyclemyelectronics.ca is where you can get all the info. So go to recyclemyelectronics.ca. Yeah, you might have alluded to this earlier, but we're going to just revisit it again. Exactly where can I, if I'm listening now and I've got these old electronics that I described to you, my old smartphones that aren't as smart as they used to be,

where exactly do I go to drop them off? Well, first of all, that website that you talked about, recyclemyelectronics.ca, if you type in your website in there, if you type in your postal code, it'll tell you exactly where to go. But Best Buy, Staples, across the country will take anything back. Most municipalities we work with, depending upon their peculiarities. And so there are many other private businesses as well that we use. Now, recycling is important, right?

We all kind of learned about these three R's, right? But isn't it more important that we reuse our electronics before we recycle them? It is. It absolutely is. And we encourage people to reuse them everywhere. So pass them down to your kids. If you've got relatives that want them, let them have them.

As I indicated earlier, we partner with Computers for Schools, and they do a lot of work. They've done a tremendous amount of work when we were having the Iraqi people moving into our country, supplying them with computers and connectivity. So they do a great deal of work there, and we encourage people to take things to them first. But when they get to the end of life,

we want to make sure that that material doesn't end up in a landfill, doesn't end up being illegally exported, and that we recapture those materials, the metal, the plastic, the gold, the silver. The batteries themselves can be reused, so the cadmium and the nickel that come out of them, the lithium for the lithium-ion batteries, all of that can be recycled.

And you talk about what countries it'll go to, because that'll be a question people will have. If we just drop off these electronics, I have this vision, I think it was the Philippines who said,'ll be a question people will have. Like if we just drop off these electronics, I have this vision. I think it was the Philippines who said, we're not taking your garbage anymore. But like, are these all going on some big barge and then going to some other country so it becomes their problem? Well, if you didn't come to us, that might happen. Right.

But if you come to us, it will absolutely not happen. We audit all of the processors that we work with. We do something that we call mass balancing so that we know that what we sent them is equivalent to what comes out the other end and where it goes so if we're sending plastic we know where the plastic's going if it is leaded glass from that crt that trinitron you were talking about right we know which smelter it went to we know whether it went to tech in bc or it used to go to Belle Dune in New Brunswick. They've shut that one down now.

There's a place in the States that does leaded glass. And so all of that then gets turned back into lead ingots, which can be reused in the manufacturing process. Now, it all sounds a little too good to be true here. I got to ask if there's a charge involved. Like when I drop off my electronics, do I pay you to dispose of it responsibly? What is the, is there a cost here? Free, free and free. The cost is born at the time that you purchase

new electronics. So it is either built into the price of the electronics or part of an environmental handling fee that you will see at the bottom of your bill. And again, that depends province to province how they're all captured. All right, Cliff. I'm sure I'll have more questions that pop into my little brain as we go here, but I'm itching to play some great, great songs here. So here's the biggest, maybe the most important question I'll ask you during this visit here today. Cliff, are you ready to kick out the jams?

I'm ready to jam We'll be her back. There's a long intro, but are you picturing the music video right now in your head? I absolutely am. And we recycle microwaves in five provinces across the country. And

this fun fact has come up on a few Pandemic Friday episodes of Toronto Mic'd, but do you know who's singing back up on that I Want My MTV part of this song? Maybe we'll wait. I guess it comes later.

But yeah, you either know it or you don't. But when you hear it, you'll know. But do you know by any chance? Off the top of my head, I do not. All right, let's listen a bit longer. Then I'll bring it down. We got to install microwave ovens. Custom kitchen deliveries. We got to move these refrigerators. So the I Want My MTV singer is none other than Gordon Sumner, who you might know better as Sting.

Wow. It's Sting, yeah. Once you know the fact, you can't miss it when you hear it. You can't un-hear it, no. But while this video was popular on MuchMusic here, I had no idea about that fun fact.

And then in hindsight, I'm like, how did I miss that? That that was Sting singing that part. And what a jam. I mean, this album, I don't know

how big a fan you are. I know this is your jam. You chose this one. But Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms, that was such a big, like, big album for me. is your jam. You chose this one, but Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms. That was such a big album for me. A playthrough

of all these big video singles. This was the biggest, I'd say. It was huge. I love them. I still am a big follower of Mark Knopfler. Have you ever seen Dire Straits in concert? I have not. It's on the bucket list.

It is. Wait, here's Sting. Hold on. So if you have, what about refrigerators? Is that too big for you guys? Can you? There are two provinces now that do major appliances, BC and Quebec.

They're the only two that do major appliances in Canada and they're not our programs. But microwave ovens are. Microwave ovens are. Okay, great start here. And your color TVs. That's right, you're old the 27-inch Sony Trinitron here. Okay, let's kick out another electronics themed jam. It's a wonder I can think at all And when my lack of education hasn't hurt me none I can read the writing on the wall Hold it from Give us those nice

bright colors Give us the greens of summers Makes you think all the world's a sunny day Oh yeah I got an icon on camera

I'd love to take a photograph So mama don't take my coat I love it. Some Paul Simon. But I think for the younger listeners, we're going to have to explain exactly what the Hakodochrome is. Well, there was an old camera. Used to be a number of them, but there was something that Polaroid came out with where you could actually shoot and it would print out the picture right there.

So, because we know Polaroid cameras, is this Kodachrome like a variant of that? I believe, and I could be wrong, but I believe that Kodachrome is a sister to that, if you will. A sister, okay. I think they tried to bring Polaroids back. Because my oldest daughter, there was a Christmas when she received a Polaroid camera.

It made a comeback. It has? My daughter has one as well, actually. It prints out tiny little pictures. They used to be about probably four times that size, but now they're kind of wallet-sized. Love this song, though. Love used to be about probably four times that size, but now they're kind of wallet-sized. Love this song, though. Love listening to Paul Simon.

And now that I think about it, Outkast had a monster hit with Hey Ya, and part of that is shake it like a Polaroid picture. So I think that, if nothing else, that brought the old tech to a new audience, if you will. But Kodachrome, so are you a big Paul Simon fan? I am. Simon and Garfunkel as well.

Oh, yeah. Let's not forget art. Absolutely. And have you ever seen Paul Simon in concert? I have not. You're going to have to ask me about somebody I have seen. How about Great Big Sea? How about the Rolling Stones?

Great Big Sea. I have a founder of Great Big Sea on the show tomorrow. Really? Tomorrow. That's so random. I love him. Sean McCann is his name. And Sean McCann is my guest tomorrow.

He's in Ottawa now, isn't he? I thought he was out east, but I guess I'll find out when I talk to him. But I know he left Newfoundland because he had to get away. And this would be an interesting conversation, but he had to get away from the drinking and the drugging. And he wrote a book about this. And I'm really looking forward to this chat, but it's just the first band. And you did that randomly. That was a coincidence that you shouted out Great Big Sea.

Yeah, I love them. I did see Alan Doyle open for Blue Rodeo a couple of months ago. I've seen Blue Rodeo. Yeah, okay. Let's shout out to Blue Rodeo a couple of months ago. I've seen Blue Rodeo. Yeah, okay. Let's shout out to Blue Rodeo. I had in the backyard this last summer, Mike Boguski is his name,

the keyboardist was playing live and he was doing Diamond Mind in the backyard and neighbors from the next street over are like peering over the fence. Like what is this beautiful music coming from? So love Blue Rodeo. Love Great Big Sea. People should listen to the next episode of Toronto Mic'd over the fence like what is this big beautiful music coming from so uh love blue rodeo love great big c people should listen to the next episode of toronto mic with the founder of great big c and i love that song kodachrome by uh by paul simon all right this song is in the trivia books which will explain the reason in a moment but let's kick out your third jam I heard you on the wireless back in 52

Lying awake intently tuning in on you If I was young it didn't stop you coming through Oh, oh, oh They took the credit for your second symphony Rewritten by machine on new technology And now I understand the problems you can see Oh, oh, oh I met your children

What did you tell them? Video killed the radio star Video killed the radio star Pictures came and broke your heart And now we meet in an abandoned studio You know, it still sounds great in the headphones. It sounds really cool. But there's no arguing, no debate

over what decade this song was created in. But this is Video Killed the Radio Star by The Buggles. Love it. For sure. And what is this song? What trivia question? I feel like it's jeopardy. We got to do it backwards.

What trivia question is video killed the radio star? The answer to, uh, could be anything. When did television arrive? First song played on MTV. Sure. Yeah.

Which makes complete sense here. But so you can, uh, like video, like I'm thinking uh vcrs i'm sure that people have vcrs and they're at the point now where they realize they might never be plugging this thing in again i'm sure that's true and we take those back as well uh i don't have a vcr but i actually have vhs tapes which is interesting and i have no way of playing them so the video and radio star uh that's another i, and I have no way of playing them. So, the video

and Radio Star, that's another, I mean, I still have a couple of radios I listen to. Like, I actually, well, either the Blue Jay Game or CBC Radio 1 or something, but radios too. I'm sure a lot of people have old radios that they're, they need to recycle. And we take those back.

Amazing. What an appropriate, appropriate jam. I'm going to let this part simmer, I dig it, and then we're going to go right into the next jam. The Radio Star Call me on my, you used to, you used to Yeah You used to call me on my cell phone Late night when you need my love Call me on my cell phone Late night when you need my love

And I know when that hotline blink That can only mean one thing I know in that hotline blink That can only mean one thing Ever since I left the city you Got a reputation for yourself now Everybody knows and I feel left out Finally, some CanCon. Hotline Bling.

You a big Drizzy fan, Cliff? Nothing wrong with Drake. Picked up my daughter from a basketball game, drove by his new house when they were building it probably two years ago. She loved it. She wanted to know when we could go and visit. Did you see Gordon Lightfoot going for a walk maybe?

Isn't that his hood too? It is. I didn't see him though. So I kicked out the jams of Ron James last night and he kicked out some Gordon Lightfoot. So we were chatting about him yesterday. But yeah, Drake, Hotline Bling. Now, how old is your daughter? out some Gordon Lightfoot. So we were chatting about him yesterday. Yeah, Drake, Hotline Bling. Now, how old is your daughter?

13. And she wouldn't let me play Carly Rae Jepsen. You can call me maybe. That one's definitely off the list. Oh, that's a shame. You know why? Because that's a great jam. You should do it as a bonus jam. Now, you're 13. That's a bit young. I'm wondering, do you think your daughter has any awareness as to what Hotline Bling is about?

Or maybe you don't even know. I kind of hope not. It's just a song about getting a call on your cell phone. And cell phones, I guess, like we talked about earlier, but people might even have some old flip phones lying around from the pre-smartphone days. like we talked about earlier, but people might even have some old flip phones lying around from, uh, the pre smartphone days, but,

uh, you can recycle your, uh, phones with you guys. Recycle my electronics.ca. And, uh, I'm going to channel my inner, uh,

Diane Sacks for a moment. Cause one of the questions she always asks, and I'm sure she'll ask you when you're on her show is she's always curious about, okay, so, so you guys, uh, you know, you, you you know, you recycle the electronics.

It's recyclemyelectronics.ca. And by recycling electronics, are you reducing our overall carbon footprint? A big time yes. And here's a couple of reasons why. First of all, the materials that you get back, all of the metals, the plastics, there's about a 10 times factor in terms of the energy used to mine virgin material versus to recover that which we already have in our electronics. So right off the bat, you are saving, having to mine,

and you just picture it all the activity that goes on in mining, whether it's gold or what you need to make aluminum in terms of that alloy all of the things that go into our electronics okay amazing that'll be uh now you you've got a heads up diane that's everything to diane uh reducing our carbon footprint and if uh recycle my electronics.ca is doing that it's going to be a it's going to be a great conversation for you guys. Hello? Hello? How are you?

Have you been alright? Through all those lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely nights That's what I'd say I'd tell you everything If you'd pick up that telephone Yeah, yeah, yeah Hey! How you feeling? Are you still the same?

Don't you realize the things we did? We did run for it. Had a dream. I just can't believe they've all faded out of view. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a scene in The Simpsons when Homer is talking about the 70s, and he says, you know, oh, yeah, BTO, ELO. He says, in the 70s, we didn't have time for anything.

We had to shorten all the names. He's talking about all the acronyms there. But ELO, Electric Light Orchestra. Nice inspired choice here. Telephone. Telephone line. Great, great, great choice. You dig this jam.

Jeff Lynne. The Fifth Beatle? Is that Jeff Lynne? Fifth Beatle. And he's in... He's in the Wilburys. I was going to say, he's in the Traveling Wilburys too. Wow.

Wow. In fact, he produced Full Moon Fever for Tom Petty. I think he did. This guy's a very talented guy. Fingerprints are all over the place here. Absolutely. And the one jam you hear, I think this is an ELO song,

Mr. Blue Sky. Is that ELO? I believe so. That's the one you kind of hear all over the place, but it's nice to hear some telephone line here. So, okay, we talked about the cell phone. That would be for Drake's Hotline Bling. But people, I'm sure people have, like, the old rotary phones or the old phones we all grew up with are probably in many a basement in the GTA. And landlines and all of that we take back.

You've got an old Polycom that you had around. They're recyclable as well. We'll take all of that we take back. You've got an old polycom that you had around. They're recyclable as well. We'll take all of that stuff back. And it's funny I mentioned electronic light orchestra. You shortened it to ELO because I'm absolutely going to start calling you guys EPRA because that is a mouthful, the full name you guys got, EPRA. And then I'm sure when EPRA catches on, we'll just be talking about bringing that device to let EPRA do it.

It's all good. It's all good. Electronic Products Recycling Association. Do I do like blue days, black nights? Do I do like a look into the sky? The love you need ain't gonna see you through. And I wonder why the little things you find ain't coming true Oh, oh, telephone line Give me some time I'm living in twilight

Oh, oh, telephone line Give me some time I'm living in twilight Oh, oh, telephone line Give me some time I'm living in twilight Oh, oh, telephone line I like Wow, wow Telephone I like

It is the time Thank you very much Mr. Robot See you again Thank you very much Mr. Robot I always want to know You're wondering who I am Secret, secret, I've got a secret Machine or mannequin Secret, secret, I've got a secret Mr. Roboto This is, as I understand Because I was very young when this came out

So it was like the first Styx song I think I knew But this is a rather controversial song For the loyalists in the Styx fanbase I think it was But, you know, I chose it for a couple of reasons It kind of leads into other things we can talk about. For example, drones. We recycle drones.

You think about robotics, you think about what's going on with artificial intelligence these days. We're headed down that path. You look at the microphone that you and I are sitting in front of. Those things are recyclable. The robotics theme just kind of got me to a different place. Yeah, that's a good point. Drones, I mean, were we talking

about drones 10 years ago? I feel like this is... It's relatively new, isn't it? But BC has drones obligated for sure. Again, not every province does, but there's just such a plethora of things that are coming, and every time you turn around, there is new technology that's coming out of the market. I was going to say, it definitely feels like the shelf life of your tech is shorter than it used to be.

It is. It is. For lots of reasons. And it seems like this is why you guys are here at Recycle My Electronics. You've got all these programs and diverting the e-waste from the illegal export and the Canadian landfills. Awesome. And this song, were you a Gowan fan? A little bit, yep. He's the current lead singer of Styx. I believe he's still got that gig.

Oh, I didn't know that. I think he took over. It was Dennis DeYoung, I guess, is the guy who wrote this song. I think Gowan's got that gig now. Speaking of CanCon artists who are now with these 80s bands or whatever, were you a fan of The Spoons? No. No.

No Spoons for you. Shout out to Burlington. Gord Depp there is now a guitarist with Flock of Seagulls. No. No spoons for you. No spoons. Shout out to Burlington. Gordep there is now a guitarist with Flock of Seagulls. Okay. You can share that fun fact, bore your daughter with that fun fact later. My brother's a huge Cowboy Junkies fan, though. Oh. Margot Timmons and her brother, right?

Is it Michael Timmons? I want to say. Sounds right. Yeah. Cowboy Junkies are amazing. And they do that great cover. Is it Sweet Jane they cover? Yes. Still love that cover.

Here, I'm going to shout out this song to... So this is the... I think it's the 20th anniversary. I get my... Okay, I think the 20th anniversary of Donnie Darko, the release of this movie, Donnie Darko, is like this week. And playing Jake Gyllenhaal's best friend

is FOTM Stu Stone. Stu Stone and I co-hosted a sub-series of Toronto Mic'd called Pandemic Fridays for 76 weeks in a row. So the first 76 weeks of this pandemic, we would kind of collect with Cam Gordon and kick out jams. And it was revealed during these 76 weeks as Stu Stone is an awfully big fan of a genre we now call

yacht rock. So I'm just going to dedicate this electronics jam to Stu Stone. Thank you. We hear you're leaving, that's okay I thought our little wild time had just begun I guess you kind of scared yourself You turn and run But if you have a change of heart Ricky don't lose that number. You don't want to call nobody else. Send it off in a letter to yourself.

Ricky, don't lose that number It's the only one you own You might use it if you feel better When you get home Smooth as butter. Wow, Ricky don't lose that number. We got some Steely Dan in the mix. You a big Steely Dan fan, Cliff?

Moderate, moderate. I like them. They're not at the top of my list. But this is a jam. Is this another telephone jam? Is that what we've got here? Another telephone. It's tough to find songs about V you know, VCRs and headphones.

I mean, you want to recycle your headphones? We're wearing headphones here. It's tough to find, you know, recycle my Bose headphones. I want to see those Sony headphones recycled. It's tough to find those songs. That's right. What's Dre's company called? He sold it to Apple.

Beats. Beats. Beats by Dre. And, yeah, like everything else, else though, and you know, you got Teenager, I got Teenagers, like anything else, like I mentioned, the life, the tech seems shorter. I used to, I would

get a Sony Walkman, okay, we're going way back here, and I would ride that Sony Walkman until it was stolen, lost, or broke, and I would just ride it. Like, it just, it wasn't, I'm not, there was no, I'm going to upgrade my tech.

It was, no, this is plain, my cassette tapes, and I'm going to ride it into the ground, basically. I still have my Sony Walkman. Yellow, oh, it's a terrible color. It's a sports model. It's not a really flashy color, but I have it. I should have brought it with me okay i had one for a while the sports that was kind of the thing for a while to have yourself like

they would like promote it like you could take it to the beach like it was water resistant as i recall flip it on your hip uh hook in those big headphones and uh way you went do you remember uh and i don't need a specific year here, but just do you remember when you graduated from Walkman? Because that Walkman, for me anyway, I don't know, I think I was Walkman-ing it for over a decade. It really did last. It did. I honestly can't remember when I stopped using it,

but it did last a long time. And it was something you could take everywhere with you. You know, if you happen to be on the subway, where you go you go i mean you know the way people do these days with their cell phones and as a bonus your sony walkman this is amazing kids but it would get am and fm radio as well yes it would so nick which did because in the uh ttc in the subway you could not get any adm fm radio but uh if you were uh you know above ground and uh you and you wanted to tune in, I don't know, the Jays game or your CFTR all hits radio, you could do so on this magic device called the Walkman. Wow.

1050 Chum? 1050. I should show you. I did an episode, a history of 1050 Chum as a top 40 station with a gentleman named Doug Tom Thompson, who was there. And, uh,

it, it, he brought me a whole bunch of like, uh, uh, 10 50 chum stickers and the charts and everything, you know, shadowed like Roger Ashby and,

and all these cats from 10 50 chum. But that was it. That was the, that was where the cool kid, that's where the cool kids were tuning in back in the day in this market here. So thank you for the steely, Dan. We dedicated that to Stu Stone.

Let's roll in. Here's an obscure little British band people might know. This happened once before I came to your door No reply They said it wasn't you I saw you peep through Your window No reply. They said it wasn't you. I saw you peep through your window.

I saw the light. I saw the light. I know that you saw me. But I looked up to see your face. I tried to telephone. They said you were not home That's a lie Cause I know where you've been I saw you walk in your door I nearly died

Ooh, the Beatles. Who's your favorite Beatle, Cliff? Well, Paul is, but I got to say, I think that is one of the best John Lennon vocals I've heard. He covers such a range, and I think his voice is fantastic. No argument here. Well done, so no reply. And I was thinking we could his voice is fantastic. No argument here. Well done. So no reply.

And I was thinking we could actually, in a future visit, we could just kick out phone jams. There's so many good telephone jams. I'll work on it. I'll start putting my list together. But my daughter won't let me have any. Carly Rae. That's on her, man, because that's a great jam.

Call Me Maybe. That's an her, man, because that's a great jam, Call Me Maybe. That's an iconic Canadian jam right there. Okay, so were you a Beatles fan? I mean, I was going to ask you Beatles or Rolling Stones, but I never really cared because it's usually both. But if you had to choose between Beatles and Rolling Stones, which direction do you go? I'd choose Beatles for sure.

I think that they're, I mean, they've set the standard for so many changes in music is the reason that I would choose them. And obviously not the same longevity that the Stones have, but I love the Stones too. Who has that longevity? Yeah. Hopefully you and I.

I mean, the Stones were on the radio in the early 60s. We're now in 2021. They're touring. They're touring. And they're still dropping new music. Like during this pandemic, there was new Rolling Stones music. Unbelievable. But you got, I would say the Beatles are like a comet.

It was a short time. I guess, I mean, 63, I think, is when they sort of break. And then they're done by, I think they break up in 69 or something like that. But the last album comes out in 70. So short time, but they burned awfully bright. Amazing. Like a magnesium strip. We recycle those too.

I love it. Okay. Speaking of great telephone jams, this is an epic one. And be hard to give away No first of spring No song to sing In fact, here's just another ordinary day No April rain No flowers bloom

No wedding Saturday Within the month of June But what it is Is something true Made up of these three words That I must say to you I just called To say

I love you I just called To say how much I care I just called To say I love you And I mean it from the bottom of my heart Love me some Stevie Wonder.

Great choice, Cliff. We tried to mix it up. Hit a bunch of generations, move it around a little, and get electronics in every theme. And, I mean, we've covered this, but I'm going to just hit this nail on the head because this is our penultimate jam here. theme and i mean we've we've covered this but i'm gonna just hit this nail on the head because this is our penultimate jam here but we there's over 2500 collection locations uh recycle my

electronics collection locations across canada i mean 2500 i think anyone who can hear my voice in this country right now is within uh at least within a you know 30 minutes of a drop-off location and again the website to go to for all to find out like where is of a drop-off location. And again, the website to go to to find out where is your closest drop-off location is recyclemyelectronics.ca. So go there and find a drop-off point closest to you. I was watching a documentary the other day, and I had no idea this event existed until I watched the doc

and it was about a it was the day that man landed on the moon for the first time that was the day this happened but in Harlem there was this huge concert it was like a Woodstock type concert that they filmed

for basically for black people like black artists for black people it was like they called it the black woodstock is actually what they were referring to it as and they have this concert footage stevie wonder performs at this thing and this footage which they said was lost for 50 years so they have all this fantastic footage of this it's in a park and there's like hundreds of thousands of people that came out to this thing and they lost the footage and some it was in a basement in some box or something and then they uncovered it and then this documentary was presented unbelievable this footage and this these performances uh and again this is i always remember you can't forget the day in 1969 because

it was literally the day man landed on the moon for the first time it's amazing documentary where did you see it? A friend shared the file with me, but I've got to find out the name. Maybe I'll Google it while Stevie sings here, and then I'll come back with the actual name here. I love you and I mean it

from the bottom of my heart of my heart of my So this documentary is called Summer of Soul. So I'm not sure exactly where it's streaming right now, but dig up Summer of Soul. It was unbelievable. And some artists, you know, you got the staple singers are there and I could go on, but it's just tremendous audio, tremendous video of this day

in 1969. And Questlove, I think, is the gentleman who's behind this documentary. But it was just mind blowing. And there's a woman who didn't live much beyond this performance. I think she dies in the early 70s. And I had heard of of her but I had never really watched her perform but her name is Mahalia Jackson and I'm sitting there. Mahalia's doing her thing. It's like a gospel type style and I should point out Nina Simone is on the bill and Gladys

Knight is on this bill. It's quite something but Mahalia Johnson sorry Jackson. Mahalia Jackson just completely blew my mind so check out the they called it Blackwood's Duck, but check out Summer of Soul by Questlove. Good stuff. What decade do you think this song came out in?

There's these certain production effects that totally tell you you're listening to an 80s jam when you listen to these things. Are you a big Stevie Wonder fan? I like Stevie Wonder. That sounded a little bit like Donna Summer with what you were doing there. Yeah, that's them. Donna Summer, the queen of disco there.

All right, my friend, we're down to our final jam. You ready to kick out one more here? Let's do it. To say I love you And I mean it From the bottom Of my heart Of my heart

Of my heart Hey Well, I've been watching you waltz all night, Diane Nobody's found a way behind your defenses They never notice the zap gun in your hand Until you're pointing it and stunningly dancing All night long, all night long You shoot them down because you're waiting for somebody good to come on. All night long. But you'll be sleeping with the television on.

Great television jam here, Sleeping with the Television On. This is Billy Joel. Great television jam here. Sleeping with the television on, this is Billy Joel. There's an artist, I think, pound for pound, if you take his entire catalogue and then you see how many of his songs ended up on the Billboard Hot 100 Top 40, for example. I don't think anyone's got a better batting average

than Billy Joel. Fantastic, and married to Christy Brinkley for a while, too. Well, yeah. He even punches above his weight there uh absolutely uh shout out to christy brinkley uh it's funny uh speaking of these supermodels from the 80s i produce a show for these uh these ladies it's called the feminine warrior podcast and they're like oh we got our next guest is rachel hunter and i'm like okay so i'm like firstly i'm like is rachel so I'm like, firstly, I'm like,

is Rachel going to be down here in the basement? And she has to zoom in because she's not in the country. But, but, Rachel Hunter was married to a rock star herself. Do you remember which rock star

Rachel Hunter was married to? I do not. It's Rod Stewart. Oh. We have to check out, does Rod Stewart have any electronics-themed jams? Televisions, though. So we talked about the CRT monitors,

and I don't know how many people are still rocking the CRTs, so those are fantastic options to be recycled. But we're at a point now where people are bringing in the flat screens now, right? I mean, these things weren't... I don't know if they were designed to last a decade or not, but these things are burning out on people. They are. Their life cycle is certainly not as long as the CRTs were,

but we are getting them back. Happy to have them. We're still getting some rear projection TVs back that have ethyl glycol in them, so we recycle that as well. Tell, okay, just the last bit here, so when you drop a big word like that, is that some kind of a dangerous chemical we want to keep out of landfills, or what exactly is that?

It's basically like antifreeze. You don't want it in a landfill. You don't want it in your water table. Just like mercury, which is in still some electronics, and you want to make sure you capture that and that it gets put back into the remanufacturing process. So recyclemyelectronics.ca, and we'll look after it for you. All right, so you came for the jams, and they were awesome, buddy.

Thanks, Cliff, for doing that. But you stay for the education here. Let's do our part. Again, you dropped the URL right there, but it's recycle my electronics dot ca uh no thanks for doing this uh i love i love learning about ways to help the planet and i love with great passion kicking out the jams with music lovers like you thanks so much for doing this absolutely my pleasure and that that brings us to the end of our 940th show. You can follow me on Twitter.

I'm at Toronto Mike. Now, I was trying to find you on Twitter, but Cliff, you're off the grid here. What's going on? I can't find Cliff Hacking on Twitter. I'm on Instagram. I'll get Twittered if you need me. Okay. What is your handle on Instagram?

Oh, that's a secret. What about Recycle My Electronics? Do you know offhand their social media handle? We're on LinkedIn. And off the top, no. I'll try to see really quickly here on the fly. See if I can. Okay, it looks like.

Okay, here we are. Is this the right one? Let me just check here. I don't want to drop the wrong one. It's too risky here. I will find it and then I will tweet at it. It might be eRecycle Canada. But here, let me just confirm.

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While they're picking up trash and they're putting down ropes And they're brokering stocks, the class struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow warms me today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go away.

Because everything is rosy and gray.