Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Dan "The Mouth" Lovranski: Toronto Mike'd #869

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

Mike chats with Dan "The Mouth" Lovranski about his years on Live Audio Wrestling, Sunday Night's Main Event, his love of wrestling and his love of music. Fast Time Milon is along for the ride.

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Pillars of the community since 1921. Thank you. dot C-A. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me this week is Dan the Mouth Lovransky. How's it going out there? Dan, welcome to the program, buddy. Thank you very much. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. Having a nice little chat here and I've hardly had any sleep at all because I was up all night doing wrestling stuff with Jason Agnew. And then I start my regular job at like four in the morning. So I slept for about an hour last night. That's the way I like my guests. Just half out of it. Hey, I got an opening theme song. This song will not only introduce you, but it will also introduce my esteemed co-host for this episode.

So let's let this simmer for a moment. Let me come, let me come, let me come in. Let me come, let me come, let me come in. Woo! You are beautiful on the inside. You are innocence personified. And I will drag you down. All right, so let me first. Are we supposed to sing along now to that as well?

I've heard your stuff. I'm going to play some later. It doesn't sound anything like this. No. So my special guest today, because we're talking, we'll talk music for sure, but we're going to talk a lot of wrestling off the top. My special guest from Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair,

Milan Telsania. Hey, Mike. It's great to be on with the mouth. Long time listener dating way back to the late 90s. Since the late 50s. I think we've been covering wrestling since the late 50s or something like that. From the big

Donnie Abreu days and Jeff Merrick. Oh, jeez. Oh my goodness. That is basically the beginning right there. That's right. That's right. So it's a real pleasure to be on with you. I'm a big fan of yours. Nice. Thanks. Now Milan chose this song. Tell us what we real pleasure to be on with you. I'm a big fan of yours. Nice. Thanks. Now, Milan chose this song. Tell us what we're listening to, Milan, and why.

This is by the Canadian wrestler, Chris Jericho. As long as I've listened to the mouth, he's sort of had a friendly running feud with Chris Jericho. So, you know, it's been really entertaining. So I think the mouth goes way back with Mr. Jericho. Yeah, I met Jericho when he was still wrestling for WCW. So we're talking about in the probably late 90s, early 2000s. And yeah, that's his band Fozzy there. And that's his latest entrance music.

And the great thing in AEW is the crowd sings the entire song as he comes out which was it's just absolutely amazing and that's happened during the pandemic without big crowds even being there and these people are singing along so when they get back to full-on crowds it's going to be insane. Now, Milan, you mentioned live audio wrestling. I'm hoping we kind of start there. But before we get into it with the mouth here, the mouth of the South is a different guy, okay? He's a different musical artist with the Gentries, I believe. Yes, that's right.

Yep, Jimmy Hart. But we got Dan the Mouth, Levransky. But, Milan, tell us what's cooking at Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair. Well, thanks a lot, Mike. Well, we're open now in Richmond Hill. Our location there is fully open for business now for in-person sales and service. So if you'd like to get your watch repaired, a watch battery replaced, get your jewelry repaired, we're there. Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair.

You can visit us at FastTimeWatchRepair.com. And all of our locations will finally open. We're part of stage two in the malls because we don't have an exterior entrance, which are scheduled right now for July the 2nd. So we're excited. Now, okay, so if someone goes to the Richmond

Hill location, that's where you are. You've been fully vaxxed. They can get a selfie with you? There's no confidentiality laws here, right? No. Yes, absolutely. Double vaxxed. Both of us, Mike. Double vaxxed and you can get a selfie with Milan now. Absolutely. Free of charge. Oh my goodness. That's a

throw in. Okay, amazing. Exactly. So pick it up, Milan, with Dan. I can't wait to hear the story, but I'm really curious how Dan gets involved with live audio wrestling. Well, I'll let the mouth answer that, I guess. I've been listening to it for many years, all the way up to now, with a friend of Toronto Mike, Jason Agnew. FOTM.

FOTM, that's right. I'll let mouth explain how he kind of joined the law. Well, it was actually a pretty interesting story, because before I was doing live audio wrestling, interesting story because before I was doing live audio wrestling and was approached by Jeff Merrick, I had been doing a show at CIUT for most of the 90s. I started, I think, in 91. And I think it was either end of I think was end of 98 when Jeff got in touch with me. And the funny thing is, I had just put the CIUT show to bed. I literally, I think literally, yeah, I'm pretty sure the day that Jeff called me, I had already talked to the station manager at CIUT. I had done it for almost 10 years.

I wanted to take a break and that. And it was done. And I swear, half an hour later, Jeff Merritt calls me and goes, hey, I'm working on a radio show about pro wrestling. I've heard you've been on the radio. I heard you know a lot about pro wrestling. let's get together so that was it basically Jeff called me we got together and at that point that was uh Big Daddy and Jeff hosting the show so I came on as a producer and that and then um Donnie leaves the show and then I jump in with Jeff and then

Jason joins us about a year after that. And then John Pollock a few years after that as well. And I mean, the whole thing is history. I mean, we've been covering it for more than 20 years now. It's, it's really insane when you think about it. And started on the fan 590, right? Yeah. Well, it was actually on, in online first.

Right. And then yes, the Fan 590. We were on at a ridiculous hour. We were on, I think it was 1 in the morning on Sunday nights. 1 in the morning. 1 till 3 in the morning. But, of course, that's a good time to catch wrestling fans. And, yeah, that's where we started.

And then we have been on pretty well, every station in the city. We were on AM six 40 when it was mojo six 40 for a long time. We were on the fan. We were on 10, 10. We were on, we were on serious for satellite for a little while. Like we have been all over the place.

And the last one was we were on the TSN radio station out of Hamilton. When Jay and I are doing it now and um they got that whole station just got obliterated when bell did those big sweep of cuts it wasn't like we got canceled the whole station got no i think it went business news or something this is oh that's right that's right they changed the format completely right right they went to i guess didn't want any wrestling news mixed in with the business news but uh yeah that's what's happened so now it's kind of become almost more of an internet thing again like last night was a pay-per-view so we we do basically what we're doing right now here we set up a zoom thing with all the patreons that subscribe and we did a live report and run

down to the pay-per-view and let them join the zoom call and get their thoughts in and all that kind of stuff so uh yeah we've been everywhere and done everything you can think of and i've probably interviewed almost every big name in the last 20 years in wrestling probably too like everybody met met all my idols rick flair mcfoley terry funk you know met tediase, all those guys. Anyone stand out in particular mouth? Oh, well, you know, Jericho has always been super fun. We clicked early on.

He's, you know, same thing, loves his wrestling, loves his rock and roll. So we always had lots of fun there. I always loved talking to guys like Mick Foley. A lot of the older guys were the guys I found interesting. I remember interviewing Ricky Steamboat and just loving it and, and stuff like that. Those were the guys. Bret Hart was always really good too. Those were the guys that I always enjoyed talking to because there's such

history there and you could just pluck their brains and find out what it was like back in the day and stuff like that. So there's, there's, there's quite a few, but I would say also, I went to cauliflower alley, which is a big thing that the older wrestlers have every year. It's a reunion thing. They do it in Vegas. And I went one year with John Pollock and we filmed a whole bunch of

interviews for the fight network. And that was really great. I got to interview Harley race, Gary Hart. It was, there was a whole bunch of them. And that was, that was really great. I got to interview Harley race, Gary Hart. It was, there was a whole bunch of them. And that was, that was really fun. That was really fantastic to just see them in their element, hanging out, chumming, talking about the old days, you know, and a lot of them were very skeptical still when I was there, cause it was early two thousands and Gary Hart.

I don't know if you remember Garyary hart he never had a huge presence up here he was more of a manager figure in the south than that but a great character he was amazing at the cauliflower alley he actually went to bat for us and convinced the other rest because there were a couple guys that were totally giving us the runaround we'd say let's do it tomorrow at three and they'd go yeah okay and then they wouldn't show up. And Gary Hart actually talked to a couple of them, said, no, these guys know what they're talking about.

They're smart guys do the interview. And those guys fell in line after Gary Hart gave us the okay. So that was pretty awesome. Dan, I'm curious about a couple of guys you worked with. One primarily, cause I chatted with him last week and he's had this fantastic national success covering hockey with Sportsnet.

But what do you think of the success that somebody like a Jeff Merrick has had since his law days? Oh, well, Jeff's worked super hard. Like I would I would never deny him any of what he has. I mean, he worked, worked. He kind of had a goal in mind and knew what he wanted to do and just put himself to it. I have nothing but respect for what he's done in terms of radio and media and all that kind of stuff. It gave me my start, really, when it comes to wrestling.

See, for me, I think he saw wrestling as kind of a stepping stone to go somewhere else, whereas me, no. I've hit the wall. I'm not really a sports fan. I don't the wall. I don't, I'm not really a sports fan. I don't follow hockey. I don't follow baseball. I only liked F1 because I thought the drivers were kind of arrogant, like pro wrestlers.

And I thought, oh, these guys have these guys. It's like wrestling here. They're trying to take each other out on the track and stuff. But I'm not what you'd call a super big sports fan. I'm much more a music type of guy. So wrestling just always appealed to me ever since I was a kid because um I don't know if you guys have ever heard of Dave McKigney he was a promoter in the 70s and he used to do uh shows in small town Ontario he would just

go around to all the small towns like Simcoe, Delhi like all the little Waterford off the beaten path and he would do these crazy shows and they would be mostly combined of guys that were past their prime and couldn't get work anymore. And he would employ them and he'd come to your town and he would do like three successive Monday nights. So he would tell you a story over three weeks. And I was just so hooked when I was a little kid. I just thought it was the greatest thing in the world.

You know, I saw the Sheik fighting Luscious Johnny Valiant in a cage and all that kind of stuff. And it was just it was such an amazing form of entertainment. And, you know, as an eight year old, I could tell it wasn't legit. I could tell they were pulling their punches. But you know what? Who cares? Who cares? It was entertaining.

You don't go to the movies and go, oh, that's CGI. Right. You get into it. Right. And I was always the same with wrestling. My dad goes, you know, that's all fake, son. And I'm like, yeah, dad, thanks. It's just it. I got it. Thanks very much. And the show you're doing currently, you alluded to it with Jason Agnew again. That's Sunday night's main event. Right. Yeah, it's it's it's it's super fun. I love working with Jayay um i don't join him every week we've kind of set it up with a nice set of rotating co-hosts so jay gets to

work with someone different every week but whenever there's a big wwe pay-per-view or something like that i usually join and we do a preview show in the afternoon and then we do the live coverage right after the event ends and i gotta ask you about a sponsor of that program because i can see the uh the fantastic logo over your left you can see the glass of beer so what that's great lakes beer but which one are you drinking there well since it's summertime i'm really big on the premium lager i think it's absolutely delicious i don't know if you're familiar with this one. Actually, there's one on the table here in front of Milan.

It's good. This is perfect summer beer because it's light, it's super refreshing, nice taste, and you could drink a shitload of them. Yeah, shout out to the Sunnyside IPA too. They're all good. The Canuck Pale Ale, the Pompous Sass. I'm a real fan of the hayes mama

yeah i don't know if you know that one that's really delicious i have to be careful of the hayes mamas uh i have to be careful limit myself on those because they're awfully tasty and yeah yeah the the fighting octopus like they're all they're all good and the thing i like about great lakes is they're always experimenting they They're always trying. They had one a while ago. It was like a hot pepper, spicy ale. It was delicious. I love the way that they're always trying something new, right? Well, here's how it all connects here for you. Maybe you already know this, but the chief beer master, I always forget the title over there, Great Lakes, but the chief beer master is a guy named Mike Lackey. Mike Lackey and Peter Bullitt,

whose family owns Great Lakes Brewery. Peter Bullitt's dad started it in 87 or something like that. They went to Humberside Collegiate with a young Jeff Merrick, and Jeff Merrick actually worked, in the early days, worked at Great Lakes for at least a couple of weeks. I did not know that. No, I did not know that. I did not know that. No, I did not know that.

I did not know they were around that long. 1987, that's a long time. I know, especially for, you think, craft breweries. They've all popped up in the last 15 years. But these guys have been here for a good long, yeah, over 30 years. No wonder the beer is so good. So let me ask you, and again,

Milan's got some fantastic wrestling questions. I have some from listeners. One real quick one I'll hit you with is from a listener named Adrian Stickland. And Adrian wants me to ask you if you ever saw Sweet Daddy Siki play a gig. I never saw him with his band. I've gone tons of times to his karaoke. Before the pandemic hit, there's a bar out here in the east end of the city called the Duke. And every Saturday, Sweet Daddy Siki hosts karaoke.

And I've been to that tons of times. I mean, he you know, we know he knows who I am now. Just a lot from just that. But I never got to see him with this band. I have all his records. He did like three or four albums. I have them all. Wow.

But never got to see him with the country band, which would have been fantastic. I'm sure it would have been amazing. I've read interviews with some of the guys that were in his band, the guitar player and stuff like that. And it sounds like it was a pretty good, fun time. And they just toured around Ontario and stuff like that and played a lot of the northern parts of the province, as you'd suspect.

But he still sings at the karaoke he always does at least one number on his own like so usually about three quarters of the way through he'll stop and do an old merle haggard song or something it's it's brilliant i love it i love that now let's just put a bow on this uh live audio wrestling chapter of your life like although obviously i've been through this with Jeff, sorry, with Jay Agnew. We've talked about this. But remind us, tell us, why does law come to an end?

What happened to live audio wrestling? Well, it's not pleasant. It's not pretty. Jeff owned the trademark and the brand, and he sold it to the fight network. So the fight network was, was the boss basically. So we worked for them and it was great. We worked with them for quite a while. And then just out of the blue, it was basically around the time that they bought impact wrestling.

The fight network bought a wrestling promotion because they wanted to have their own product for the network. And when Impact started out, it was not one of the better products out there. They were having trouble. They were making a lot of the same mistakes that WCW did, including bringing in people like Vince Russo and Eric Bischoff and people that pretty well basically destroyed WCW. And so we told them, we said, well, look, you know, you have a promotion. We're not going to kowtow to what you have. We cover everything and we're going to tell you what we think.

And I don't think they liked a lot of what we had to say about Impact. And I think they realized after a while that these guys are counterproductive to what we're trying to do. And they just said, that's it. The thing that bothered me the most about it was because jobs come and go. That's life. But for me, they didn't give us a chance to say goodbye. They just said, we did the show on the Sunday. And then the next day they called us and said, that's it.

So they wouldn't even give us like a couple of weeks so we could build it up, maybe make something of it, you know, say goodbye to everybody. We just kind of like disappeared. So it was unfortunate, but you know, that's how things go. Certainly in broadcasting, in the entertainment world, you never know when you're going to get the hook, right? So it happens. Yeah. You got to own your own shit, right?

Well, that was part of it too. And we tried, we tried to get it. We tried to get it. When the fight network let us go, we said, well, was part of it too and we tried we tried to get it we tried to get it uh when the fight network let us go we said well how about selling it to us right right and but they wouldn't do it and they have done nothing with it ever since in fact if you i think if you you know do the old website live audio wrestling.com it's just still at the exact same spot whenever they dropped this years ago. They ended up, they said they were going to do something with it.

They never did anything. No, Dan, I know. So Wei Ting and John Pollock, who we mentioned earlier, started up post-wrestling. Right. Were you ever involved or asked to be involved in that? And was there ever any discussions ever about post-wrestling and this uh sunday night's main event at all you know joining forces i'm just curious if there's any behind the scenes action on that front well there's not really much to say when it got to that again i didn't i wasn't

interested in making a career in broadcasting i I just liked covering pro wrestling, right? It was fun. It was a fun thing to do. I enjoyed it. You know, you got to go to shows. You got to meet a lot of these guys. Certainly for me to meet Ric Flair was pretty amazing. So it didn't really bother me as much.

So John and Wei and Jay, to a certain extent, they all kind of wanted to carry on in their own way. And I thought it was going to be with Jay but it didn't it didn't end up working out it fell apart and John and Way went their way and then Jay went his way and then Jay eventually approached me and said you know would you like to come back and work with me on this and that because I didn't um I've done stuff for both like every once in a while John and Way will call me and say, Hey, we're doing, we're going to do a review of WrestleMania six. And we know you were there and stuff like that,

you know? And I'm like, sure, that's fine. And we have done a couple of things together, but it's kind of just the way the cards spell and stuff like that. And it didn't, it didn't end up working out.

It would have been great if we had all, if it had happened, but it didn't. Milan, you've got some wrestling questions. Absolutely. Now, Mike and I are sort of a vintage mid-80s, right? That's when we started kind of a thing? I'm like WrestleMania 1 is around the time I start tuning in.

Right. And then I kind of leave after like WrestleMania 6. Yeah, you matured and I didn't. Well, that's the peak. And that's also the peak 80s period, right? WrestleMania 1 is right after Vince has done the expansion where he takes it out of the territories and spreads it across the country.

And WrestleMania 6 is kind of the last big one for a while. WrestleMania 7 did very poorly. In fact, they moved it out of a major venue in LA and put it in a smaller place, saying that they were worried about death threats because they were doing the angle with Hogan and Sergeant Slaughter as kind of an Iranian sympathizer. And they were worried that they were going to have bomb threats, which in reality,

they moved to a smaller venue because they weren't selling tickets. So I tapped out at the right time. You're telling me. You did basically that that's a glory period for sure. From eight, from about 84 till 90. That's a glory period for sure um from eight from about 84 till 90 that's a very strong period yeah yeah absolutely i just want to get the mouth's thoughts since we're talking about the 80 stars uh any documentaries uh just concluded a bunch of documentaries on um you know the ultimate warrior and roddy piper and bret hart and to name a few i just want to get your thoughts on on what you thought of those

and if you had a chance to see them. Well, I was watching up until the Randy Savage one, and then I tapped out. Right. Because, A, WWE still has their hands in these, and that's always an issue. They want to create their own history, tell their own story, whether it's the truth or not.

And in the Savage one, I don't know if you guys saw the Savage one, but it really bothered me that Bubba the the love sponge was involved with that right someone who did not know savage someone who basically spent a career making fun of savage had no right to be in that uh destroyed all the credibility or any credibility these programs might have had so i watched uh piper and i watched savage and that was it I have not watched any of the other ones and I don't plan to because I can't I can't handle it if that's going to be their approach and they're just gonna they're gonna pick some dick like him to be in a program about a guy that he basically ridiculed on his radio show like forget it you know so so no I

haven't really watched my I'm not a big fan of wwe produced documentaries because a lot of the time it's just they tell you what they want or they contort the story like so much of their history is bull no that's true it's true as opposed to the dark side of the ring have you enjoyed those yeah now those see that's a totally different story right we've got a source outside the business uh who wants to dig up these stories. And a lot of these are stories that as a reporter and someone's covered it, I've heard all these stories. But it is great to see them being presented.

Sometimes the other thing is it's not an easy watch. A lot of the time you're kind of like, whoa, that was like the one a couple of weeks ago about jake's father grizzly smith right and with his family and his sister rockin robin and sam houston and geez my skin was just crawling by the end of that one uh but other ones have been fascinating like i bruiser brody was one of my favorites when i was a kid i even named my punk band bruiser brody uh but uh that one was great because they found tony atlas and he was there when it happened in puerto rico when he got stabbed and just told you the whole

chilling story he gets his subpoena the day after the trial like just creepy so the dark side of the ring i love them i i think they're fantastic i recommend i mean i think those would be fascinating even if you weren't a diehard wrestling fan. No, I've watched a few minutes of the Jake the Snake Roberts one, then I had to turn it off. See, there you go. You know, I did watch the Dynamite Kid one, the most recent one. That one was pretty tough to watch, too.

And that was tough to watch, too. Yeah. Hey, before we leave the Vice docs, the reason, Dan, the reason actually I reached out to you was because every week during this pandemic I've recorded these special episodes of Toronto Mike we call Pandemic Fridays and we have themes so

couple of buzz and the reason I'm bringing it tying it in with Vice is because one of the guys who co-hosts the Pandemic Fridays with me is a guy named Stu Stone and Stu Stone is heavily involved in a lot of this season's Dark Side of the Ring. Like he's spent, yeah, so I know, and I want to say directed or, I don't know, directed, but he's heavily involved with a bunch of these episodes.

I just want to shout out Stu Stone. And also we did an episode on Wrestling Jam. So we each brought four wrestling songs to the table and then we kicked him out and gave some fun facts about him and i was gonna have a special guest to zoom in and i reached out to my buddy jason agnew and jason actually said to me he said mike i'm happy to do it but there's a guy way better than me for this topic and he said dan the mouth lavransky and then i said i can't have dan make his toronto mic debut guesting on i need him to have his full like spotlight before he can special guest on a pandemic friday so basically that was about i don't know two weeks ago and here we are today i listen to that one i listen to that one i found

it interesting um well i'm not surprised i mean if that's your era you guys stuck with a lot of the 80s themes and stuff like that but man wrestling and music has a pretty rich history and there's tons of forgotten stuff that is really fantastic and i that's another thing i mean when it comes to music and stuff i'm really like i like to dig and find the stuff that got missed that i think is worthy and people should know about and some of those old wrestling records, like have you guys heard of Beauregard at all? No. No.

He was a wrestler in the 70s from Seattle, and he literally wrote his own wrestling theme. And this was back at a time where guys didn't even really have themes most of the time coming to the ring. And he used to dress up like a biker. He had this big three-wheeled motorcycle he'd ride to the ring, and he to dress up like a biker he had this big three-wheeled motorcycle he'd ride to the ring and he would come out to his own music and he recorded a whole album in 1971 and it it is fantastic it's it's like totally of its era early 70s kind of hard rock uh if you know your punk rock history greg sage from the Wipers was the guitar player. He was only 21 years old.

So there's some great history there. But there's tons of guys like him that kind of slip through the cracks that deserve it. And I always love talking about those because they're always pretty unique personalities. And the music is always really fun in that too.

All Elite has been killing it. I know you were surprised that Luke Perry from 90210, his son,ry yeah i was i was surprised i had no idea i think he could be a future star he's a character called jungle boy yeah aew aew has done a fantastic job they have done something that the wwe doesn't seem to be able to do anymore and that's build new stars and jungle boy has been one of them and jungle boy he's a smaller guy you know to see him you might not even think he's a wrestler but he's talented and the way he's been presented in aew they've made him look like a genuine contender like he's got a shot for the big title against kenny omega on the tv this weekend but the thing is they've made him look like he's a legit challenger.

They've had him win some big matches. They've never made him look bad. So he's actually done really well for himself. And his new theme song is Tarzan Boy by Baltimore. Yes, that's right. Yeah, yeah. And my son, who's six, is fascinated with that song. You know, so just goes to show you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a perfect wrestler song because the audience can sing along and he's a baby face. So you want them to sing to the theme. Tony Khan really has good taste in music and he realizes that these themes

are really great. Like the way he got, he used the 60s version of Wild thing there with uh moxley by the troggs and then and he bought the rights of roadie lee too right yes in perpetuity yeah there was lots of guys where he's bought from this music and they're going to be able to use it forever and that's that's pretty major whereas vince and the wwe they just get a lot of low-end bad metal bands and it it's all really generic sounding. Stuff that sounds like Disturbed. Yeah, it just all sounds the same, right?

It's very generic. Whereas sticking songs to people, especially iconic songs like Wild Thing or the Tarzan Boy thing, those are iconic songs. People just remember those. So it's an instant association with something that people enjoy.

So I think it's really smart on with something that people enjoy so i think it's really smart on his part i think we made a mistake uh agnew was right dan's the man for the if we ever do a wrestling jams sequel uh mouth you're gonna get the okay i'd be remiss mouth but i didn't talk a little bit about current wrestling. My wife often asks me am I getting too old for this shit? Unquote. Does she mean you or her? Well watching wrestling I guess. And I just wanted to get your

thoughts on in my opinion what's just been a complete lack of creativity especially when it comes to the Monday Night Raws. And I think what in my opinion what sort of the worst case scenarios come true with the WWE, with their, you know, long, you know, their money deals with NBC, Universal, Fox, Peacock, they're getting upwards of, I think over $600 million a year, which in my opinion has given

them no incentive or motivation really to, to, to, from a creative standpoint. I don't know if it's a lack of crowds. I don't know if Vince has just gotten comfortable with the money, but the whole creative juice, to me, just seems to be lacking. Whereas back in the day with Raw, I used to look forward to that, and now it's become an absolute chore to watch. Well, it's what I just said earlier

with Jungle Boy. They can't create any new stars. There's very few guys on the roster right now that you can get behind because they they don't get behind a guy and stay with a guy that's like stop start stop start stop start and so after a while guys that are really talented Dolph Ziggler is the classic example for me in WWE very talented guy if you brought him in from the start and pushed him properly and got him over he could be a top tier guy i really think

he could but he has had so many stops and starts and you know gets a big match loses gets a big match loses that if he was put in any kind of match now no one cares and no one gets behind them like it's it's it's really really messed up and i do think part of it is what you said about the money is that they get such money. And Vince has always wanted it to be about the brand. He doesn't like it to be about one particular person. Like in the old days with wrestling in the territories, when you're at a territory, you had a big star and that was your focus, what he was doing, what matches he was in, who he was fighting. Right. But Vince over the years has tried to change it.

So, well, it's just the brand and it's WWE comes to town. So everybody will go right. And with that kind of attitude and getting the huge money from the TV, I think you're right. I think a lot of the creative just gets sloppy. And I also think Vince needs to put it to bed. I don't know what it is. I'm not sure what changed.

He used to be a fantastic promoter. Certainly that 80s period that you guys were fans of Vince. He did fantastic with it there. Right. But now he just seems to have lost his touch. He doesn't seem to know what's relevant. He gets involved in a lot of stuff that I mean, it's wrestling. Sure.

You got to really suspend your disbelief. That's part of the fun. But he takes it to limits, like all this stuff with Bray Wyatt and demons and wizards and black forces and setting guys on fire and throwing guys off buildings 25 stories up and they're okay the next day. much ridiculous stuff whereas if you watch aew they try to keep it within the realm of some sort of at least reality so you can at least buy into it and get behind the guys so that's a great point yeah i'm not sure to me really i don't think wwe is going to change until vince finally gets out of there and that's not going to happen until he's no longer with us because i don't think he's ever going to step down you talk about dolph ziggler and that's a great point happen until he's no longer with us. Because I don't think he's ever going to step down. You talk about Dolph Ziggler, and that's a great point.

I think it was WrestleMania 27. He beats Alberto Del Rio the night after WrestleMania, I think, to win the championship or cashers in the money in the bank. And the arena just went insane. And they never did anything with that. And I always remember that as a lost opportunity. And there's numerous examples of that. Yeah's a great that's a great example because the other thing too that this just this drives me insane with vince the fans clearly tell you who they want

to root for who they want to get behind who they want to boot daniel bryan daniel bryan was super hot came in everybody wanted to love this guy, they wanted to just get behind this guy. Vince continually squashed him, denied the fans, Daniel Bryan, gave them Roman Reigns instead, and people wonder why Roman Reigns never got over. Well, it's because we didn't want

Roman Reigns, we wanted Daniel Bryan and you took a guy, shoved him down our throats, and it's like, no! We don't want that and then people just started to crap all over it. And you can say the same about Cesaro too. I remember back after WrestleMania 30, he won the Battle Royal, the Andre the Giant Battle Royal.

The crowd just went insane. Rusev was another one. There's numerous examples. He's such a talented... Cesaro is a major loss. He is so talented. That's why I'm really enjoying guys' contracts running out and some of them showing up in AEW because they have taken guys that Vince pretty well did nothing with and have turned them into top stars. Moxley being one example and Brodie Lee before his unfortunate demise. Brodie Lee, he was fantastic in AEW and Vince let him do nothing in WWE so it's really frustrating

I think if I didn't have to cover wrestling, I don't know if I'd be watching WWE. That's true and you talk about the lack of young stars already, SummerSlam which is going to be held in Vegas this August, the two rumored main events are John Cena returning to battle Roman Reigns and apparently

Brock Lesnar is in talks as well with WWE with a potential match with Bobby Lashley and then Edge who I'm a big fan of from Toronto but he's also someone in his late 40s and the problem with that is while the build up and the match might be fun

what happens the next night? That's it right? You can't keep going back to these older stars because you've got to create some new ones. Those guys are there. That's it. Those guys are there for one night. That's it. They're out of there and they have to do whatever they can to help the guy they're in with. Cause he's got to stay. Like you said, he's there for the duration. The other guy's out of there, you know? So, but it's really confusing. I don't understand it.

Triple H, who basically runs NXT, their kind of development league, he's turned that into a pretty fantastic product. And he uses a lot of old school ideas as well. And a lot of the times, NXT is much more entertaining to watch than the main product, because at least

the storylines make sense and they get behind guys and then you see these guys do so great in NXT and then they go up to the main roster and then it's true explain to me Rhea Ripley like Rhea Ripley they're just destroying her right now there's a million examples almost how many guys from nxt have come up and really made their mark hardly any that's true right like it's just i don't know i don't understand it they get to the main roster and then all of a sudden they're everything's gone they get pushed in a different direction they've got all these things inhibiting them that they didn't have in nxt that were maybe the highlights of their personality. Yeah, it's amazing. I don't quite understand it myself.

Mouth, you talk about Vince McMahon. Do you see there are rumors now they've hired Nick Khan from Hollywood. He's a former major executive with CAA. They've let go of a bunch of behind-the-scenes staff in addition to on-air talent. Rumors about a potential sale. Do you see that happening or do you see a Paul Levesque, Stephanie McMahon sort of being the succession plan here? Yeah, that's super tough.

I don't know if Vince would ever sell it or not. I mean, it's his baby. He's run it forever. I mean, even at this stage of the game now, well into his seventies when he should be retired, sitting at home, just enjoying himself, but he's such a workaholic.

I would like to see Triple H and Stephanie kind of take it over. I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't know if he would want to sell. It's it's that's, that's really tough. I don't, I don't, I can't get into,

I mean, I can't figure out Vince McMahon at this point anyways. So I, I don't know. That's a, point anyways. So I don't know. That's a really, really good question. Deep down, I don't think he would. I really don't think I would. He's always been fascinated with Hollywood. That's why there's Hollywood execs.

He has script writers, for God's sake, writing the promos for the wrestlers. That's part of the reason the product is hurting so bad, because these poor wrestlers have to memorize these scripts, and it sounds incredibly fake when they say it. So I think he's always been fascinated. He's always wanted to be part of mainstream Hollywood. I think it bugs him that he never got the exception or the gratification or recognition from Hollywood that he wanted.

He's never got that. So I think that's why he thinks a lot of the way he does. But, man, he's been such a control freak. I just don't see him selling it. I don't. I think he's there till the bitter end. Dave Meltzer reported on Sunday night's main event, I think it was a couple of weeks ago with Agnew,

with Jason Agnew, that he would have taken a similar deal to think it was a couple of weeks ago with Agnew, with Jason Agnew, that he would have taken a similar deal to what UFC got a number of years ago. I think it was $4.2 billion sold to Endeavor. Oh, yeah. And NBCUniversal. It's worth money for sure. And, you know, streaming services

now, the future of watching TV, basically, they want that stuff. They signed that deal. They basically killed the WWE Network in the States and signed the deal with Peacock. They want that stuff. They signed that deal. They basically killed the WWE Network in the States and signed the deal with Peacock. They're just part of a bigger subscription service now. So, yeah, we'll have to see. I don't know.

It's a weird one for sure. Because you can see they're being pulled both ways. Removing the Roman Reigns Mysterio match off the pay-per-view and moving it to Fox. That was a great example exactly you have too many people to satisfy right you have Peacock who want big shows obviously because they want people to subscribe to their service but then you have Fox a television channel that wants good

ratings on a Friday night show that's right so yeah they actually pulled the biggest match off the pay-per-view and did it Friday night on SmackDown for free. And that, that was an issue as well, because a lot of people stayed away from last night's show because that was the match, the only match they wanted to see. So yeah,

it's, it's pretty, it's pretty tough, but there is a lot of money involved, but I don't know. Vince just seems like too much of a control freak to ever let it go. Do you think the live crowds mouth's mouth will energize this product? Yeah, they will.

Like starting July 16th? I don't know if they'll energize it the way Vince wants because the fans have shown it. I think even though fans have been away and they're just going to be happy to be back and cheer and make noise, I still think if there's something they don't like, they're

going to tell them they have always done that and that's that's one of the best things about watching the crowds in professional wrestling is they're not shy to tell you when they don't like something uh they'll they'll get very vocal they'll make noise it was evident during the whole daniel bryan thing when they were given people roman reigns and people obviously did not want him it didn't matter what you did with them. They hated them. It's only within this last little while doing the angle with, with Uso that Roman story has actually gotten captivating. It's one of the few captivating stories at the minute at the moment in the

WWE. So yeah, that's, that's an issue as well. You have all these other people that you have to satisfy, right? And it gets hard because they all want to have the best product. Meltzer is also reporting that ticket sales have been extremely sluggish other than for SummerSlam and the Money in the Bank pay-per-view coming up in July. So it'll be interesting. Again, though, but are you surprised?

Like, I'm not surprised because even though they haven't been able to go to a show in a year and a half, there hasn't been much in a year and a half that would motivate me to go to a WWE show. AEW, absolutely. I can't wait for their first show in Toronto. It is going to be off the charts. They will blow the roof off.

Like if they do Rico or something like that, they will blow the roof off the place. Like it is going to be so fantastic. And them getting back to live stuff, they're getting back into it shortly too for the TV every week. It's going to be great because they have done an amazing job of getting guys over without having crowds there. The stuff they've done with Jungle Boy and Orange Cassidy and all that has

done amazing with no crowds. If that stuff had gone down with live audiences, holy cow, it would have been amazing. All that stuff with Jericho and the Inner Circle and FTR and the Pinnacle. They have done so much stuff that if they had had crowds for the last year and a half, they would be even farther ahead, I think, than they are now. I was hoping that All Elite would light a fire under vince's ass though like wcw back in the day but it hasn't no i mean they tend they seem to look at competition on a just quick quick little whatever is happening at the moment it's like oh well aw's got a show on wednesday well we better

put nxt on wednesday then so we can compete them. He doesn't really seem to realize that. I mean, he should just just look who, you know, got two guys just joined that roster that I thought were WWE guys for life. Right. Right. Big show. And Mark Henry, both of those guys, I thought were WWE for life. And there they are now in AEW. So I haven't got any evidence that it's lit a fire under Vince's ass. I don't think that's the way Vince thinks. I mean, even think about even WCW for the longest time until they were actually beating them in the ratings. He never took them seriously. He never once took Impact or TNA seriously. So I don't know. I think they have to really, really make a strong impression. I think to Vince, he probably still sees them as lower tier.

But if you think about it, they're the number two promotion in North America now. Right. Oh, I don't want to pollute the process here. Holy smokes. By the way, this is sweet having the co-host because I can kind of chill out, just listen like a fan. I can disengage. But I was going to bring up that point you made, Milan. We'll talk cliff divers in a moment.

I know. Yeah, I got cliff divers. Don't worry. What is it? Your wife wanted to know if you were too old for this shit? Do I get a vote on that? I just wondered. She always walks in at the worst times, Mal.

Like when Alexa Bliss or Lily segment's coming on. And she just looks at me and just shakes her head kind of a thing. And she always walks in, not in the good part, but always in the, you know, the Bray Wyatt wacky stuff that maybe a 45-year-old like me should not be watching. Randy Orton just set someone on fire. Look at that. Right, right. Yeah, it's, yeah. No, I guess, I mean, it really kind of depends.

I mean, I love it when it's yeah. No, I guess. I mean, it really kind of depends. I mean, I always I love it when it's good. You know, when it's done properly. I love New Japan Pro Wrestling from Japan because they have a very athletic style. They keep the angles incredibly simple. They keep most of the guys viable and believable for title shots. Like it doesn't it doesn't have to be this big convoluted thing. It's like, hey, he has the title. I want the title.

Let's fight for the title. It's done. It doesn't have to be a convoluted play out. You talk about all the script writers, Mal. Now, we can disagree with the quality of the product, but back in the day, in the late 90s, I think it was Vince Russo and Ed Ferrara basically writing the show with Vince,

a little bit of Bruce Prichard, I think, involved. And now you've got this massive, you know, script writing, Hollywood. They've gotten away from sort of the basis, exactly what you talked about. It's not the approach. You have to let the talent express themselves their way. Most of these guys that get into professional wrestling,

they know how to be performers. And they have strong ideas about what they want their characters to be and unfortunately Vince just doesn't listen to any of that whereas Tony Khan and AEW will go hey yeah that's great let's do that okay we're gonna you know he lets them have some freedom you can bet no one in AEW is reading a scripted promo you know. Eddie Kingston is not reading scripted promos. He's just shooting from the hip and he's fantastic. And that's what you want. You have to have

that believability, that spontaneity. You have to buy into it. And it's just so hard to buy into the WWE now. And it's the first thing that I think Jon Moxley and even Christian, they all said the same thing. That's the biggest difference that they noticed when they know, when they switched sides. Well, you know, obviously, right?

No one wants to be handed a five-page script before you go out there to cut your promo. It's ridiculous. Yeah, absolutely. So, Mouth, let me ask you a question from a listener that came in. And then I'm going to thank some other partners other than Great Lakes Brewery. And then we're going to talk a little rock and roll if that's cool. Is that cool of you, Milan? Oh, no.

A little rock and roll? That's awesome. Absolutely. So here's the question. I like it. It's from Sean Hammond. He says, as a wrestling fan from 1983, he says to you, Dan, what is your favorite era? He says his is the Attitude Era.

Groundbreaking content, but so tame now. So what's your favorite era? Well, I'll tell you right now, it's not the Attitude Era. I was honestly not a big fan of the Attitude Era. I thought a lot of the stuff they did was really dumb and really stupid. You know, and again, that's where a lot of the bull today started. Mae Young giving birth to a hand. Just really ridiculous, stupid things,

and making it raunchier and nastier. I know there are lots of fans that like that. And if that's your first viewing of wrestling, if that's what you first saw when you were a kid, then yeah, of course you're going to love it. Me, of course not. No, I grew up on old school. I would say my favorite era is right before the expansion especially here in the toronto area because we had mid-atlantic with the crockets and you had flair and steamboat and piper

and jake the snake and you had sergeant slaughter and you had all the greg valent And you had all the, Greg Valentine. You had all these amazing guys. Their matches were always fantastic. The storylines were believable. And that era, I think, and also from when I was extremely young, seeing those David McKinney shows in my hometown as a little eight-year-old at the Simcoe Hockey Arena. And there's the wild man facing the beast. And both of them are like completely

covered in hair and just pounding the crap out of each other like those those the old school eras i think are more uh fun for me and the only modern era i would go in with is uh 90s 90s all japan and new japan was fantastic because those guys would just go out there. Like a lot of that stuff you see now with guys like Cesaro with the big forearms and all that, that was the style in Japan. And those guys, those guys would literally just beat the crap out of each other. Dan, you still there, buddy? Oh, see, see, this is, see, see Dan froze up. He's, I was about to say Dan is joining us via zoom. Whereas Milan is here live in the backyard. So Dan, see, this is, see, Dan froze up. He's, I was about to say, Dan is joining us via Zoom,

whereas Milan is here live in the backyard. So, Dan, unfortunately, I can't give him a Palma Pasta lasagna, or I'd be giving him a nice frozen lasagna from Palma Pasta, but I want to thank palmapasta.com, and of course, we've already discussed the great partnership we have with Great Lakes Brewery. Shout out to Great Lakes Beer. There's actually hand sanitizer on the table, Milan.

That's courtesy of Ridley Funeral Home. That's to keep you and your family safe. And they've been pillars of this community since 1921. So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. StickerU.com. They've been fantastic partners for years now. They're in Liberty Village, but of course, that's e-commerce. That's everywhere online at stickeru.com.

That's where I get the great decals in the home studio downstairs. And I get the great Toronto Mike stickers that I love to share with everybody. So shout out to stickeru.com. And last but not least, before we get to the rock and roll, I see that Dan's back on Zoom there.

I want to just thank Mike Majewski. I call him Mimico Mike because he's the real estate agent who's ripping up the Mimico real estate scene. His motto is in the know in Mimico. And he certainly is. You can check him out. Find out more at realestatelove.ca. And Dan, you're back there. Can you hear us?

Yes, I can hear you guys. I don't know if maybe my internet maybe a bit shaky who knows it was good timing actually because I was just about to thank the partners rock and roll okay so yeah we've talked a lot of wrestling in this program but you are a multi-talented

mofo as they say I was just checking things out can you remind us of all the shows you've got going on both on CIUT but also on your YouTube channel? What do you got going on? Yeah, I got a bunch of things. Like I said, I had a run at CIUT in the 90s, from about, like I said, 91 to about 98.

And then about, I don't know, four or five years ago, they were doing some anniversary-based stuff based on when they first got their license. And they asked me to come back and just do some shows. And I really got into it again. I got enjoying it. So I have a weekly show now. It's every Tuesday at noon.

It's called Dr. Mouse Rock and Roll Lunch Party. And it's basically my love of rock and roll. I'll play anything probably from about the 1940s till the present day. And I like lots of music i couldn't do a show on one type of music that would drive me crazy so my show is punk metal blues soul funk rock old new like whatever you know i'll play like gospel and then i'll play death metal right after it or something like that. So that's that

one. I also fill in once a month on Funky Fridays, which is on CIUT as well. That's 6 a.m. till 9 a.m. on Friday mornings. And that's just I love it. I've always been a big fan of funk music. I love James Brown and Parliament and Curtis Mayfield and Funkadelic and Stevie Wonder and, you know, all that great stuff. The Isley Brothers, you know, all that great stuff. The Isley Brothers. You know, I love that stuff. So getting to do that once a month is really fun. And with both of those shows, I guess with the YouTube show, too, which is called Slipped

Through the Cracks, where I do little videos where I find albums that I think should have got more attention in their day that I think are really good. Or I'll just pick something that's really quirky. Like I did Fred Blassie's record, you know, because his wrestling record is, is so great. But yeah, so there's the YouTube channel and then the CIUT shows. They're, they're all this. I like to do the digging. I'm much, I'm a historical guy.

I, I do play new bands. I just played the new Tony Joe White and the new monster magnet and stuff, but I really like historical guy. I do play new bands. I just played the new Tony Joe White and the new Monster Magnet and stuff. But I really like to dig. I like to dig and find that stuff that nobody really knows about or remembers. And someone will go, wow, Mouth, that's totally cool. I've never heard that before. kind of trying to do that because when I was a kid radio for me was all about music and not like nowadays where it's all kind of talk based for I I had the parents that had the radio in the kitchen and it was on 24 7 the radio was always on and I had you know my parents had a stereo I destroyed my parents first story stereo just playing monkeys records till they wouldn't play no more. And then my mom buys us a stereo and she puts it in the living room, the one room of the house where no one's supposed to go.

So as soon as they did that, and I'm in the living room constantly, they didn't like that. So they finally gave me my own stereo. And one of the things I used to hate about the radio back then is they wouldn't tell you about the band. They might not even tell you the name of the things I used to hate about the radio back then is they wouldn't tell you about the bands. They might not even tell you the name of the song or who it was like time of the season by the zombies.

It took me 10 years to find out who that was because every time I'd hear it on the radio, they'd never say who it was. So I find with my show, I try to dig, dig and find obscure stuff. And I also try to tell you stuff about the band, the performers, the songs, whatever interesting facts I can find, because it used to just drive me crazy as a kid, the way they wouldn't tell you anything. They would just play the songs and sometimes not even tell you the title of the song. Well, if it's OK with you, Mouth, it's funny when I call you Mouth, I'm wondering, should I be calling him Dan? I can call you Mouth, though. No. You know what? You know what? I don't think I think Jay has maybe called me

Dan three times in the entire 25 years that I've known him. So I wouldn't worry about it. Okay, good. I'm going to play a couple of these forgotten jams, quirky jams, and maybe I'll play them and then I'll bring it down and we can talk about these. Is that cool? Sure. Okay. Yep. So here's the first one. Milan, your favorite part of the program.

You ready? Let's do it. Here we go. It was a timeless romance Of late and leather bound The heroine reacted In a way most treaters found As puzzling as a letter By secret one held dear

Stating the private points I give Under asking an eye for an ear Alright, Melf, this is an eye for an ear. Yes, this is a great record, man. This is a Canadian guy. This guy was Canadian. He calls himself Terrence at this point in his career. And that was the title of the album, An Eye for an Ear.

He was a child actor. His name was Terry Black. He was from Vancouver. He did some stuff when he was really young. And then in the mid-60s, he had a couple of pop hits that were not, they did not too bad up here in Canada. But in 1969, all of a sudden he just goes full-blown crazy psychedelic he calls himself terrence um that's one of the more regular tracks

on the record there's a couple on there that are just out and out insane there's one that reminds me of revolution nine by the beatles um this is really great stuff and i this is just something i totally found on my own looking around the record was never even released in canada in 1969 it only came out in the states and it also came out in europe with a completely different cover but uh yeah that is the exact kind of stuff i look for is really cool, unique and good. I mean, good. That Terrence album is fantastic. I love it. I think every track is is fantastic. And it's just such a queer, weird, quirky little story.

Like, where is Terrence today? Is he even alive? You know, I've never heard this artist's name in my life. And I until you until I discover this song via you i had never heard this song before wild yeah it's it's it's pretty i mean if if there's one thing that can be said about the internet that's positive and things like youtube this is it because this is i spend a lot of time just on youtube just looking for stuff and doing weird searches. I'll just type in, all right, Canadian child star and see what comes up. Wow.

That's Stu Stone. There's a couple of good pages too. There's one guy has a page called Canadian Classics where all he does is post super obscure Canadian stuff from the past, 45s albums and that. And yeah, that's just the stuff. I actually, and my copy of their album, of the Terrence album, I only got it a few months ago from the States still sealed since 1969.

I couldn't believe it. I was, I was in heaven when I got it and it sounds great. And I get, it sounds great, especially in the headphones here. And, uh,

it almost reminds me a little of some of that, like early mid seventies, Keith Hampshire stuff. Right. Yeah. Yeah. A of some of that like early mid-70s keith hampshire stuff right yeah yeah a little bit of that which is kind of like a neil diamond kind of well that's i think that was kind of his roots right and his early stuff was kind of more poppy like that but then on this record he just kind of combines it right this other stuff like there's some there's one track on there called fool amid the traffic that is just it's crazy and there's there's one i think there called Fool Amid the Traffic that is just crazy. And there's one, I think it's just called Rap, that's pretty crazy as well.

Yeah, it's a great record. It's all over the place. Okay, so people listening might not know the name Terrence, although you do now. Here's a jam I'm going to play for you. Again, we're going to get a good feel for this, then I'll bring it down and we can talk about it. But the artist's name you'll be familiar with. But let's kick out another one. I got traffic in my mind, yeah Don't know which road to follow

I got traffic in my mind, yeah I'm on a low-lying solo, low I got questions that don't add I got questions just to let me. Answers trying to find me. Everybody tells me what they don't know. I got traffic in my mind. Yeah, yeah. Don't know which road to follow.

Whoa, man. Some psychedelic jams here, right, Milan? And this song, I'll give the title, and then you can reveal the artist here, but the title is Traffic in My Mind. It's very Jimi Hendrix-ish. It's tripping here. Tell me, who's this?

This is amazing, because if you grew up in the 70s, you know, you'd think of this band. A lot of people consider them one of the first boy bands. Right. That is the Osmonds, ladies and gentlemen. That is the Osmond Brothers. That is from their album, The Plan, which was a concept record about the Mormon religion. The whole record is about the Mormon religion.

This jam we're listening to right now is by the guys who gave us One Bad Apple. Don't spoil the whole bunch. And the thing is, this is after that. See, it's a great story here. The Osmond Brothers wanted to be a rock band. They wanted to be just like Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath.

You listen to the album before this, Crazy Horses, and there's a track on there that sounds just like Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin. It's amazing and but unfortunately Donnie and Marie started to get really popular and the record company kind of pushed the guys to the back and they had to kind of be the backing band for Donnie and Marie so their aspirations went out the window but, we have those two records, Crazy Horses and The Plan, as great examples of what a fantastic rock and roll band they would have been if they were allowed to do it.

And you said this was like a Mormon album? What did you say about it? Well, yeah, the Osmonds are Mormons. Yeah, it's the concept. It's all about the Mormon religion. Like, traffic in my mind is kind of deciding which path do I take in my life. And there's the one song called The Movie Man, which is basically about God watching

everything that we do and stuff. Yeah, it's crazy. It's a crazy record. I think you could win a few bar bets, I think, play this jam and say, name the artist. Oh, yeah. See, that's the thing. But the thing is, it wouldn't work with a lot of younger people because they don't have that knowledge of the Osmonds.

Like my era, my age, you know, the Osmonds were all over the place, right? The other funny thing about this, I have to say, I did this on my YouTube channel as one of my Slip Through the Crack videos, and somehow Marie Osmond found out about it. Get out. And Marie Osmond found out about it and Marie Osmond loved it she put it on her Facebook page she goes right on Dr. Mo

thanks for talking about how great my brothers were or something and then that video blew up after that it's the one that has been seen the most it's over I think it's around 7,000 views at this point whereas you look at the Fred Blassie one, and there might be 59 views. Speaking of that, go ahead.

Yeah, once Marie hooked onto it, I couldn't believe it. I thought, and she, I think she played it for the other brothers too, which I hope she did. Oh, that's cool. I have nothing but respect for these guys, you know. I may not understand the Mormon religion, and the record may not have helped me, but it's a great rock record, and that's all I care about.

Quick, quick, quick story. So I have a couple of YouTube channels, one for this program and then a personal one where I throw stuff up. Like, I don't know, my kid doing something, whatever. So my daughter, my oldest daughter, had this amazing encounter with Will Smith with, uh, Will Smith and his son, Jaden Smith. Okay. Because they, Jaden was filming a movie and they went over to say

hi. It's like 30 seconds of like Jaden and Will Smith going over to say hi to my daughter. And I thought it was pretty cool. Of course, this was caught on video and I put it on my YouTube channel and just said, Hey, here's my daughter meeting Jaden Smith and Will Smith. 10 million views later. Okay. Yeah, exactly. That's not daughter meeting Jaden Smith and Will Smith. 10 million views later, okay? Yeah, exactly. I hit 10 million views last week. But YouTube has these really stringent rules on monetizing videos. And one of them is basically that you have to have X hours of listening.

Like your listeners have to have listened to X hours over the last 12 months or something. Long story short is, this video is not monetized because I don't qualify. 10 million views. Yeah, ridiculous. Anyway, I know. I don't make a penny on this big viral video I accidentally scored with.

But it's funny how the videos, you never know what will kind of cause a video to catch fire. That's it, exactly. The last person I expect to see it was Marie Osmond, right? Like, I was not expecting any of the Osmonds to really see it. I'm just trying to do my little bit.

I push it on the radio show, so I'm hoping that people that listen to the radio show will go and watch some of them and maybe learn a thing or two. Are you friendly with Bill King? Because Bill King's had a CIUT show forever. He's a good friend of the show. familiar uh i know you're familiar but are you friendly with bill king from only because bill king's had a ciut show forever he's a good friend of the show but yeah yeah i i i think i met him many years ago yeah but i have i haven't seen any i haven't seen anybody around ciut right in the last year and a half we're all doing our shows from home just like you are right bill bill i

could just hear you you and bill having a convo because Bill played, he's been around, he played keyboards for Janis Joplin. Wow. His jazz music legacy is pretty amazing. Okay, so just to recap here, because a lot of this music stuff, Milan took a nap. I hope that's okay. So, Dr. Mouth's

Rock and Roll Lunch Party. That's your one CITUT show and remind us when that one airs. Right. That's Tuesdays at noon. That's why it's called the Rock and Roll Lunch Party. It's kind of meant to be two hours to relax and listen to a maniac play some crazy tunes while you have your lunch. And once a month, you get to host Funky Fridays, also on CIUT.

And that's a Friday morning show. Right. That's Friday mornings from 6 till 9 a.m. And I always do the first Friday of the month. So I'll be doing one shortly. But again, it's fun. I have so many great compilations of rare funk tunes and I just love pulling them out and playing them.

And the thing about Funky Fridays that makes it a great show is that each week it's a different host. Like there's four different hosts each month, right? Right. So I do one month and then there's three other people. So you get all the different varieties. Me, I'm more the hard edge stuff, the rock and roll kind of stuff. Other guys will play the more slicker disco kind of stuff.

So it's really great because the show is pretty different every week because you have a different host hosting it. And people should go to YouTube and subscribe to Slipped Through the Cracks. That's yeah, I think the channel I just call the channel Dr. Mouth. OK. And so if you go to YouTube dot com slash Dr. Mouth, you can yeah, you can check out all the videos there. Ever since I started doing the CIUT show again, I haven't had as much time to work on the videos, but there's a pretty good collection there to at least get you started. Okay. Here's one more, one more jam.

It's just a taste of this jam and one more band here to talk about. And I apologize for the potato quality of the recording, but it's live. I don't know where that is. Cherry Colas or something like that. Yeah, we played at Cherry Colas a lot when that place was open. Great little bar. I love it. What's that band that everybody should be familiar with? Who are we listening to there?

That's my surf band. We're called the Cliff Divers. I'm the drummer. John G is our guitar player. Fantastic guitar player. This guy can play every style. He comes from kind of a blues roots, but man, he's great

with surf, rock and roll country. We have all kinds of different styles. We do. The bass player is my buddy, Nautiloid Rick. And yeah, it's just a three piece surf band. Always been a big fan of surf instrumentals. When I was a kid, my mom grew up in the 50s. So in the 70s, when they had all the 50s nostalgia, she was always buying these compilations of 50s rock in the 70s when they had all the 50s nostalgia she was always buying these compilations

of 50s rock and roll tunes yes and there would always be at least three or four surf tunes on there and i would instantly gravitate to the surf tunes there was something about that guitar tone and the way they were played and i i just i love surf music and the thing about it i play a lot of it on the ciut show as well there are so many great canadian surf bands happening right now uh that are that are fantastic all across the country and uh so it's always and it's such a great it's great summertime music it's just fun music and it's fun to play people dance they get into it it's a lot of fun i miss playing definitely yeah now we need you know a lot of people even my age i'd say uh hear that and they think of pulp fiction yes yeah yeah well because that

was pulp fiction gave surf a new kick in the arm right because surf's heyday is before the beatles surf's heyday is basically 62 to 64 like wipe out we talking like Wipeout and that kind of stuff? Yeah, Wipeout, Tequila. Like Link Wray? Like Rumble, maybe? Rumble? Rumble, absolutely. I love Rumble. Link Wray.

We do a killer version of Rumble, man. I love that sound, too, by the way. You're right. I love this stuff. And you're right. Pulp Fiction gave it a shot in the arm and caused a lot of us to kind of dig deeper and discover some great old stuff. It was great because it presented it to a whole new audience.

Right. And yo, yeah, I relink raise one of my heroes, man. I'm so glad I got to see him blow up some of his amps at the horseshoe, but he, he was,

he played when he was older, his hearing was so bad. He played so loud. It was so loud. And the one time I saw him, he blew out two amps and so they had to go to one of the support bands and he blew out that guy's amp like it was it was fantastic but all those guys dick dale link ray you know duane eddie james burton i love those guys they're

fantastic yeah so and surf music is just fun it's really fun fun to play. You can dig out your Hawaiian shirts. It's great. And one more quick note here before I pass the mic to Milan just for his final thoughts. But I did hear you're running Trash Palace. Is that still going to happen post-pandemic? Yes, yes, absolutely. Yeah, the Trash Palace is super fun.

The Trash Palace, we run it out of Cinecycle, which is a place near Queen and Sp spadina 129 spadina and yeah well i have a one of the other things is i collect 16 millimeter films and these are the films that tv stations would use back in the past right when they would show movies and stuff so i've got a good collection and my friend stacy k started it and then he moved away. So I've carried it on and yeah, we just find great old B movies, monster movies, biker movies,

you know, whatever. I've got a horror movies. I've got all kinds of crazy shit and it's really fun. We do it once a month. The room is all set up big, big screen, big projector.

And it's, it's really fun. And it's meant to be a fun, interactive thing. Like we all sit there, we scream at the screen. We're like, yeah, what the hell? And, you know, we'll make jokes and it's really, really fun.

And when the pandemic started for that particular year, we had just started for the year. I think we had shown one film. So yeah, I'm definitely, once this all gets worked out and we can all be together again in groups, I'm going to start it up again. Yeah, for sure. Amazing. Sounds good.

And can't wait to people can see the cliff divers. It bothers me so much. We had three gigs booked before the pandemic hit. One of them, which is an annual thing they do here, they've done it for 10 years called the Great Lakes Surf Battle. And there's two really talented guys, Pete Jones and Dano Villano, and they put it together every year. And they get all the bands from across Canada, like the Green Reflectors from Nova Scotia,

the Reverb Syndicate from Ottawa, the Urban Surf Kings from out east as well. And then in town there's Mark Malibu and the Wasagas and Luau or Die and the Champions of Justice. And those guys get all the bands together and they present them all at one big show. It used to always be at the Cadillac. So I'm not sure where we're going to have it now since Cadillac's history.

That was something that I always look forward to every year because not only could you play, but you got to see all the other great surf bands in one night. I realize I do have one more question. Moth, if you had to choose between wrestling and music right now. Right now? Easy. Music. Music wins hands down.

Especially since WWE is so shit right now. Music wins hands down, buddy. Hands down. Milan, thanks for co-hosting this episode with me you did the heavy lifting on the wrestling segment and then I hope people still uh still stay tuned the mouth is fantastic and uh I really enjoy listening to the mouth for all these years including uh you know um including with your tag team partner Marc Andrade of the old farts right

yes yes you should um you should definitely check out the CIUT show. I know you guys come at this from the wrestling end of it, but you should really check out the show because I think you guys would have a total ball. I mean, I mix in old weird little clips from movies. I'll sometimes whip in an old wrestling promo in between a couple of songs. All of a sudden, there's Arn Anderson going off or whatever.

Well, now that I'm thinking about it, would you return in a couple of songs. All of a sudden, there's Arne Anderson, you know, going off or whatever. Well, now that I'm thinking about it, would you return in a couple of months, would you return to Toronto, Mike, to kick out the jams with me? Basically, we play 10 of your

favorite songs of all time and you talk to us about it. Wow. I would totally, I would love to do that because, again, they would probably be songs that I could,

that would not be known to a lot of people. Which would be fun, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I could play. I have the very first 45 I ever got when I was a kid, and it was so influential on my musical tastes. Yeah, and it's not known at all. I won it at the county fair throwing a dart at a balloon.

Woo! We're going to get that story. I've got to save that for the sequel. So your return to kick out the jams, we're going to get that story. I've got to save that for the sequel. So your return to kick out the jams, we're going to get that story for sure. Okay.

And that brings us to the end of our 869th show. Now you can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Mouth, what's your Twitter handle?

There isn't one. I'm not a big fan of Twitter. Oh, you're not a fan of Twitter. I am on Instagram though. Dr. Mouth. Dr. Mouth on Instagram okay we gotta

follow you on Instagram yeah Milan Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair what's your Twitter handle well probably our website I'm like the mouth too

we do have a Twitter handle but we're more you can visit our website to get more information FastTimeWatchRepair.com Great Lakes Brewery of course sponsors all of our shows.

I love it. Yes, yes. You know what? Those guys are fantastic. Not only do they create amazing beer, but they have been so good to us as sponsors. When the TSN station went down in Hamilton, Jay went and said,

look, guys, we're not on the air anymore and appreciate it, you know, whatever. And they said, hey, whatever you guys do, we're good with it. Wow. And I was just like, holy cow, these guys, these guys are true fantastic supporters that they would still continue to sponsor us even in this situation. So my hat's off to them and I appreciate my case.

I get every month from them. And they're on Twitter. They're at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta is at Palma Pasta. Sticker U is at Sticker U. Ridley Funeral Home, they're at Ridley FH. And Mimico Mike,

much like the mouth here, he's on Instagram at Majeski Group Homes. See you all next week. This podcast has been produced by TMDS and accelerated by Roam Phone. Roam Phone brings you the most reliable virtual phone service to run your business and protect your home number from unwanted calls. Visit RoamPhone.ca to get started.