Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Dave Faber from Faber Drive: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1981

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

In this 1981st episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with Faber Drive founder Dave Faber about the ongoing history of the band.A version of this podcast without programmatic ads is available to all Toronto Mike'd Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Do your cold open when you're ready. Oh, shoot. Sorry, brother. I gave you such clear instruction. I know. I know you did. I just didn't realize there'd be a silent count in there. That's because haven't you seen Wayne's World?

I know. It's so good. They go five, four, three, and then you don't say two, one. I know. I know, I don't know. You're right. You're right. I should have got the cue.

You want me to count you again? It's up to you. All right. Five, four. I just like counting. Five, four, three. Hey, this is Dave Faber from the band Faber Drive. I am here on Toronto, Mike, and I'm so happy to be here.

Thanks for having me, Mike. And, yeah, we've had a bit of resurgence right now. We're pretty excited. Faber Drive's going on tour across Canada all the way from Halifax to Vancouver. And we're hitting, I think there's about 15 different shows. We're playing Toronto this Sunday, or I believe it's October 4th. And yeah, man, super stoked to be back. So thankful and grateful and excited for everything that's going on right now with Faber Drive.

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It is indeed Dave Faber from Faber Drive. Dave, what a pleasure it is to meet you. Thank you. Great to meet you too, Mike. And you're not alone. I got to just let the listenership know. There's some guy named Nick who's just wandering aimlessly in the TMDS basement here. Who's Nick? Nick Maranak is one of the greats, man.

He's actually a good part of why Faber Drive has had such a resurgence. A good friend of mine, Elise Saunders. who's also a good friend of Nick. Have you heard of Elise Saunders before, country world? No, because I'm kind of like country ignorant. Okay, okay, well, she's in the country world. I've got to learn. She's amazing.

She introduced me to Nick. She's like, you got to get this, you got to know this guy named Nick. He's connected with a whole bunch of festivals in Ontario and stuff. And so she's like, you got to get on to not when we were young. Sorry, all your friends fast and a bunch of other stuff. So anyway, she introduced me to Nick. Nick connects me with the owner of all your friends fest and also Saubel Beach Party,

which was also a crazy show we did. We did two years in a row now. We did it this year and last year. This year was simple plan. Last year was, I can't remember who was last year. Which one? Marion is Trench, right, right.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Josh has been here. Yeah, Josh is awesome. Those guys are just killing it right now, too. So that's who Nick is. Nick is amazing. He's a videographer, photographer. He looks familiar to me.

Have I ever met you? No. But you're a BC guy? You're local. I feel like I've seen this guy before. He's always behind the camera. I thought I saw him in the bushes, maybe. Are you a hunter?

No, he likes to take pictures of me taking my Toronto tree picture. Okay. So, Nick, do your thing, man. And if you get thirsty, let me know I'm going to get you some Great Lakes beer. And Dave, honestly, I'm excited for this Faber Drive deep dive, but off the top I need to point out two significant notes from the TMU, the Toronto Mike universe. So you got to sit tight.

You can react, of course, but these are two non-favor drive items I need to express off the top of this episode, 19881. You ready? Yep. Firstly, since we're recording the morning of September 28, 2026, tonight is TMLX23. That means it's the 23rd Toronto Mic listener experience.

6 to 9 p.m. Tonight, everyone's invited. Dave, you're invited. Nick, you're invited. All your friends are invited. It's a free event. It's at the GLB Brew Pub, which is Jarvis and Queens Key.

So if you can hear my voice, and it's still Monday, September 28th, get your ass to GLB brew pub, Jarvis and Queens Key for 6 p.m. tonight for TMLX23. Your first beer is on the house. There'll be some food. How does that sound, Dave?

That sounds a big. Amazing. Well, I'm also going to send you home since I'm mentioning Great Lakes. And I want to, you know, all favor drive the rest of the way. There's some fresh craft beer going home with you today. Oh, thanks, man. Appreciate it. You can share some of that with Nick, of course.

For sure. Nick, I might get you your own, man. You look like you're the real deal over there. Okay. And here is a sad note. So we go from that high of TMLX23, which is tonight. I can tell you we will be tipping a pint of fresh GLB in honor of beloved FOT. TM Mars bar.

That's right. I learned this morning that David Marsden, who's been in this basement multiple times, he's just a fixture of the TMU, David Marsden has put on his wings. He's passed away at the age of 85. So I just want to say everyone who knew and loved David are feeling what I'm feeling today.

The loss of a legend. He was program director at CFNY during the spirit of radio. Before that, he was a fixture on Chum FM. And before that, he was Dave Mickey on C-K-E-Y. So we lost a good one today, Dave. Oh, man. That's a heavy one, man. I'm sorry to hear that, brother.

Did CFNY play Faber Drive? Well, I don't, honestly, I'm from BC. I don't know what CFM-Y is. I know Chon. You would know it as Edge. 102.1, the Edge is how you would know this. I believe they probably did. I know Chum FM played the snot out of us.

They were great to us back of the day. I heard you mention Chum there. Yeah, yeah, because in the 70s when they were, album oriented. They weren't as many hits. That's when David Marsden was a fixture on 104.5. Oh, cool. Can I

take you way back and then we can get like the Faber Drive origin story? 100%. Okay, we're going way back here. We're going back to BC here. Let's listen. I'm not sure if I'll remember that front of back, but let's try. I like it. That's like a challenge. Can I jog Dave's memory? Can you remember

the beginnings of Favor Drive? Let's do this. Dave, what do you remember? This is Sex and Love. What I remember about this song? Like, I was looking into the origin story, and it sounds like Seafox in Vancouver plays a role in all this,

and maybe you submitted sex and love to compete in fox seeds. Does this ring a bell for you? Yeah, 100%. This is a big memory for me. Sorry, going back to my earlier note, too, of the country world, have you heard of the Washboard Union?

Yeah, of course. Okay, so they're in the country. They were at once booked to be in this basement and for some reason fell out of the schedule, never got back in. But I did the homework, so I still have the notes for those guys. Oh, those guys are awesome. If you ever do, get them in, you're going to love them. Dunner is one of the guys in the washboard union.

And he was actually the guy who, when we, he was the guy that we delivered this song to. It was a three-song EP we had, 24-story, cement head, and sex and love. were the songs that were on the EP that we delivered that I delivered to C. Fox. And it was like the last day that you were allowed to enter and they were closing the office and I had to pound on the door for them to let me in. And then Dunner was the one who got us all the way.

I mean, he didn't get us all the way, but he's the one who announced us to the top. And he was amazing. So we got number one with this competition. What a break for you. It was crazy. Yeah, it was very exciting at the time. And the opening slot was Get Open for Nickelback.

so that was such an honor. We're going to get to Nickelback for sure in your story here. But do you remember, I think at this point at C-Fox, do you remember a DJ named Neil Morrison? I'm really jogging. So, you know, I'm trying to remember his timelines at C-Fox, but he was a fixture on the aforementioned CFNY, which is 102.1, The Edge, as Brother Bill.

And then he went out west to work at C-Fox under his real name, Neil Morrison. But it's, I would say C-Fox was the Vancouver-Rex, version of the station I've been calling 102.1 The Edge. That would be like the Vancouver equivalent. Cool, cool, cool. Same owners and everything. Oh, really? Okay. Cool. Very cool.

So now that we've established the role of C-Fox in breaking Faber Drive with that song and more, can you please tell me, like, go back now. Like, when in BC do you realize you want to have a role in

the music industry? When did you realize you want it to be a musician? And then where does Faber Drive come from? Or maybe Faber, right? Because you were Faber Drive. Yeah, we were Faber originally. So there's a bunch of stuff on there. You know, I think,

I don't know really if there was a defining moment of when I really wanted to become a musician. I mean, I grew up going to church, you know, to get a smack if you're not singing kind of thing, but it was just a love tap, you know. And so I always loved singing. There's a guy named King David in the Bible.

And he was a psalmist. He would write songs and amazing songs. You're really going back. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That might be the record for furthest back anyone's gone. You're asking me for the roots. King David, keep going, bud.

So then, you know, fast forward to my teenage years. My dad always had like just like shitty acoustic guitars kind of sitting around the house like cheap ones and yeah I didn't know how to play I would just pick it up once in a while and then my dad ended up buying me a drum set uh when I was 16 and it was a big deal because it was a thousand dollar drum set this is in the early 90s or late 80s I can't remember right um and where there was seven kids in the family and a thousand dollars to spend on a drum set was just not money that was you know so he he went out on a limb for me and he told me as

long as I practice every day, and as long as I only play Christian music on the drum kit. So, what's that? Like, Michael Road is Boat ashore? What the heck are we talking about? Michael Road is Bode Ashore. You remember this jam? I think, isn't that, that's like a...

Michael Road is Bode ashore. Hallelujah. Oh, wow. Wow. Like, that's what I think about when I think of, like, you know, Christian stuff. So did you grow up going to church that? Oh, yeah.

I went to church every Sunday, Catholic Church. Oh, okay. but you guys sang song Michael Rode's boat of the Catholic Church? You know what? I'm trying to remember where I think it was just in the atmosphere that song.

Maybe it was like a Pete Seeger or something with version that was out there. And then I feel like I have a memory of maybe Ned Flanders singing it or something. I don't know, but that kind of, a lot of my go-to Christian stuff when I think a Christian is Ned Flanders. Right, right.

Well, there you go. Ned Flanders. So dad buys me the drum set, $1,000 drum set. And I start playing and I'm just I'm loving it, right? So now, now I want to get a ban. Enough of the McDonald's ads.

I'm loving it. Was the McDonald's? Oh, yeah. I'm Mick Loving it or something, right? I feel like Justin Timberlake wrote that maybe. Mcloven, McLevin. McLevin's Super Bad.

Yeah, Super Bad, right, right. Fucking great. I played that for my daughter when she was way too young to watch Superbad. And she always reminds me of this. You know, I was way too young for Superbad. I'm like, I don't know. I don't have that like brain. Yeah.

But back to you. Back to me. You're loving it. Loving it. Mcloving it. So the, I wanted to join a band when I was 16 and I was playing drums like crazy. So I phoned my buddy up. The only guy I knew who played guitar and he was an insane guitar player. There's some drumsticks if you get the, oh, thank you.

I get the it. I love it. So I call my buddy. I was like, hey man, I want to start a band. I got a drum set. Let's start a band. He's like, I already got a drummer, man. It's my cousin.

Hangs up the phone. I'm like, oh, this sucks. So I'm like, I don't care. I'll do anything. I want to be in a band. So I call him back. I'm like, do you need any. anything in the band.

I'll be anything. I just want to be in a band. He's like, well, we need a singer. And that's where I started singing. And that was when I was 16. And then from there, like, it just, you know, I was in different bands throughout the years.

And are we in Vancouver? Where are we? Yeah. So this is Mission, which is where Carly Ray Jepson is from as well. Speaking to Josh Rainer, okay. Yeah. Speaking of Josh who?

Well, he co-wrote, call me, I just met you. What's that called? Oh, Josh Ramsey. Ramsey. What did I call? I thought you said Josh Rainier, like the beer.

No, my bad. My bad. Yeah, Josh Ramsey. Sorry. I just was at this Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame induction at Massey Hall, Saturday night. I'm there. And they Feist was going in. And the video tribute, I saw Josh up there.

He sent in like a video tribute for Feist. But yeah, sorry. I got the wrong surname. But you know, Josh from Marianas Trent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He co-wrote, Call Me Maybe. Yes, yes. And he actually has co-written a bunch of songs with us.

He's amazing. Amazing producer, amazing, amazingly, Tom. sing his praises because he seemed like they're like a genuinely nice guy. He is. He's a great dude. So where was I? Yeah, this is Mission and yeah. So I was like 16 or something.

I did that band for a few years. We were called Total Jids, not to be spelled incorrectly. It was T-O-A-D-L for Toads. And then J-I-D-S. And that was a nickname of one of our buddies back then. Okay, is that biblical too? Like,

no, it was just the Yeah, frogs are falling from the sky. Oh, hey, you're talking about

the plagues now. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you're from mission. Mission to me sounds like the most

Christian name, like missionaries or whatever. That is very funny. I never, I never even thought about that. That's a good point. We gotta spend more time together, man.

Yeah, bro. I got all these observations. Okay, so. No, it's great. The total. Total jids.

Wow. Yeah, that was our first band. We released two full-length albums. And then that band kind of fell apart. I started another band called Seed. We did another two full-length albums.

That was Pop Punk, Christian Pop Punk. Okay. And there's no songs online about Seed anywhere. I got to get the stuff out. I have the CDs and the stuff. I've been itching to put them up on distro kit or whatever. When you say Christian, like does that mean it talks about Jesus? Like what is?

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, we had one song called Psalm 150. We were kind of like MXPX was, I say loosely a Christian band back then. and MXPX is still doing like amazing actually right now but they're, I wouldn't really consider them a Christian man I don't think they're a Christian band at all but they were under a Christian label or something so they were kind of one of the bands that we were kind of like chasing

like they're kind of like the green day of I would say Christian music kind of thing. Gotcha. Okay. Were you at all influenced by a band like Creed? So if not really no to be totally honest. They had like a Christian background didn't they? Yeah Scott Stapp was a Christian. I believe he is a Christian and I believe the rest of the band wasn't Christians, and so they didn't want to do the Christian music thing,

but I think he wanted to or something. It was, I don't know exactly what happened, but that's what I heard. No, I was more influenced by, like, Striper and Michael W. Smith, and I don't know, have you heard of Striper? Is it a Y? Is there a Y in Striper? Yes, there is. I do remember, like, coming across this.

And that Michael W. Smith, I remember reading or knowing that he existed as a Christian musician. Yeah, yeah. And, um, When it comes to Christian Rock, for me, it's like, I got to, like it's got to be

evanescence or something. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Striper, to go on to Striper for a sec, please. They just released their 18th album man. Okay.

Yeah. And where are they out of? Do you know where Stryper's from? Well, I know that they were based in like Hollywood, L.A., so they grew up with like rat, wasp,

Motley crew, all those guys, they were all buddies. Yeah, sunset Boulevard stuff or whatever. Yeah. Amazing. Okay.

Where were we? Bands. And then, yeah, so with Seed, seed kind of fell apart. My band members quit. And I remember the day my band members quit on Seed. It was the three piece. And I was like, this is so stupid. I'm like, I want to be a musician.

I got to figure this out what's going on. So literally the biggest thing in the world at that point in time was how you remind me, Nickelback. Of course. And I looked on the back of the Nickelback CD. And I looked at who the producer was and it was a guy named Joey Moy. And so back then it was the phone book. So I looked through the phone book.

I found out the studio they recorded at was called Greenhouse Studios in Burnaby, Vancouver area. And I found out the producer named Joey. And so I phoned the studio he was working at. And the girl, the manager at the time, she's like, hey,

is there any producers? I'm like, yeah, we'd love to work with Joey Moy. I didn't tell her we broke up until we were in a band. And then she gave me Joey Moy's cell number. And so I called Joey. And then it was kind of off to the race.

I started sending him demos over like six months. and then he brought me into the studio. Sorry, I keep... No, I love the detail, firstly, but another quick observation just, you know, since you, actually, you interrupted yourself there. When you play back the tape, you'll realize, oh, I interrupted myself.

But when we get to 2005, and you're competing in Fox Seeds, I need to remind you, the word seeds is in there, Fox Seeds, and your band was called Seeds at some point. Seed. Okay, well, close enough for this ridiculous observation. Back to you. That's great.

I love the opportunity. I'll do the reduction. Seed. So then Joey was recording at that time in Abbotsford with Nickelback when I was kind of befriending him and sending him demos. And anyways, one day I sent him a demo. It was called Everything, the song. And he said, dude, I love this song. Why don't you come to this studio today and we'll finish it?

And so that was kind of where it all started. I went to Chad. That was Chad Kruger's studio in Abbotsford there. Joey was working there. And we started working on Faber Drive stuff. And then Sex and Love came out, 24-story, cement head. And those are like the first songs that we kind of did with Faber Drive. Okay, a lot of meat on these bones here.

Firstly, what was Chad like when you first met him? Like, what kind of guy was he? Chad is a very confident fella. But he, I don't have anything bad to say about Chad. I think he's amazing. You know, there's, when you have that much success. and when you're that good of a song right now stuff. There's,

I think, um, you hold yourself differently to a certain degree because you, I don't know, I think you, you have to be a little bit protective because, you know, people may want to be friends with you for whatever reasons, you know. Um,

but chat has always only ever been super good to me. He actually, funny thing is, at the time when we were recording in the studio with Joey, um, I was going to the food, the food bank to get food because I was married with two kids at that time. Wow.

And I had to put food on the table, but they didn't know at the studio. But then Chad caught wind that I was going to the food bank, and he knew that I was married with kids. And so he's like, dude, he's like, is this true? You're going to the food bank? And I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, you know, it's all good. I just want to, I want to get this album done.

And I'm going to do whatever I got to do to make sure we can get this album done and stuff. And he's like, dude, I'm wearing five grand into your account today. Wow, that's solid. Yeah, yeah. So it was very, very kind of him. And I'll never forget that. And, you know, he's like that. And he's thankful, but he also loves it when people are thankful to him.

You know, he loves giving good gifts to his friends. He definitely lavishes it on his friends. And so, yeah, Chad's a great guy. That's a great story. And I'm glad to hear it. I think that band, I think people like to hate that band because they were and are so fucking huge. Yeah.

Like nickelback, it's almost like you lose sight of how big, like how many Canadian bands can fill an arena in the United States of America today? You can count it on one hand. Yeah. What is it, Rush? I mean, Rush just recently reformed. I mean,

but it's a very small number of bands, but Nickelback is on that very, very short list. 100%. I totally agree. And I honestly believe that the nickelback hate is something from like 10 years ago. I think it's, I think it's a little bit gone now. You think it still happens?

Well, the doc, I think, helped a bit. Like, the doc sort of, like, soften things a bit. And I think it helped a bit. I think, because you mentioned the song, how you remind me. And because I have a couple of years on you, so we both lived this era. I think that song was just,

can a song be too big? Like, it felt like it was everywhere. It was multi, like, genre. And it was like ever-present. Where am I looking for? Yeah. It was absolutely everywhere. It was monster.

It felt like it had become Canada's national anthem somehow. Yeah. So when a song is that big, like right now I think Taylor Swift is experiencing this. When you're that big, you must suffer some form of backlash. 100%.

I totally agree. And they, you know, at that point in time, it wasn't just how you remind me. It was also they had hit after hit after hit. Sure, but that was the one, yeah, you're right.

Because I liked the state. Okay, I had the state. Right, yeah, yeah. A bunch of songs on that I really like. And then it was Silver Side Up is that was gone. And that, when that single breaks, how you remind me, which went to,

number one on the Billboard Hot 100 in the United States of America. So it was a massive hit around the globe. That was like a moment where it's like, okay, you can't go back. Now you're going to be headlining arenas in the United States. And then, yeah, then they had a bunch of big hits after that. But that was the song. Huge. Yeah.

But I mean, like, songs like photograph were huge too. I can't remember. But they had so many hits. It's like, yeah, yeah. It's a lot of fun going to their concerts. Everybody's just singing along so loud. Absolutely. But I have a question about like nickel back adjacent bands, okay?

Okay. So when I would watch much music or listen to my local alt rock station, which happened to be the aforementioned 102.1, The Edge, I would hear songs by default and theory of a dead man. And they were like what I would call nickelback-esque. And then you would learn, oh, they're like from the 604 stable. So can you just give me an idea of when Faber Drive is coming up. And you're in the 604 stable?

Or, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So where, like, where are we in the timelines? I guess they came before you. But, like, where's default in theory of a dead man and these other nickelback-esque rock bands in this century? Yeah, yeah, no, we were all in the same area, I would say. And I think maybe the thing that kind of stood out a little bit for us is that, like, my voice doesn't sound similar. I come from the pop punk background, right? Like, I was a huge fan of Simple Plan.

I was a huge fan of, like, Green Day, Offspring. Blink 182. So my voice was a little bit different. But it was still part of the 604 circle. It was like Theory of a Deadman default. Those guys are all great guys. They're still buddies of ours. Yeah.

Okay. That was like the, because hearing the big smoke here, that was like the 604 invasion. Yes. Yeah. I love that. I think it's the first time I've heard of that phrase

and I think you've got to coin that one, the 604 invasion. I'm going to coin numerous phrases in this episode with you, man. I'm loving this vibe here. Okay. So we're here. Right. Now I want a Big Mac. Okay. Oh, no Big Macs for me because what I have in the freezer, it was literally just delivered for you, man, is I got a frozen lasagna from Palma pasta. You're not, you don't live in Toronto. So where are you in a hotel? Like, where the heck are you saying?

Yeah. Yeah. You want me to tell you the name of the hotel on the podcast? Yeah. Well, you don't have to fucking do that. No, I'm staying right beside the Toronto airport. Okay, you're probably the airport. Okay. So I'm just wondering. like logistically, like, could, can you make a frozen lasagna? Does it go to Nick? Like, I got a frozen lasagna delivered for you from Palm pasta. It's a delicious frozen lasagna.

Oh, actually? Like, yeah, it's not a, not in a bit here, man. Like, I'm just trying to think, if you're in a hotel tonight or whatever, like, you don't, this is a useless gift for you, is what I'm telling you. No, no, no, we got pre-production in the pre-production place we're playing. Do they have an oven? Well, they better because we're paying them like a freaking arm and a leg for this place. So, how's that phrase, right?

Does that come back from the 50s? Arm and a leg. I still use it, man. Do you? We don't use that anymore? I got to take a note. Stop saying arm and a leg. No, no, it's all good.

We can say it all we want. I think that's ever going to be evergreen, evergreen. But if you have access to an oven, this is a long way to we have me saying, you throw this sucker, this delicious large frozen lasagna, you get put in the oven at 375 for 45 minutes.

Everybody's going to fill their bellies a lot better than the McDonald's. Is it a veggie or is it a meat? Fuck, it's got beef, man. If you got vegetarians, I don't have anything for you. No, no vegetarian. Her boyfriend's vegetarian, but I am scared of him. You remember that song? 303.

No. Anyways, I remember 311, though. Oh, 311 is so good. Yeah, they're good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, well, 311 was supposed to be the code for indecent exposure or something. Oh, really?

That's what I heard. It's so funny all these. things. Hey, you hear these little things you didn't know about. You got 604, you got 311. We're going to do it a number. And then this, I mentioned that was at Massey Hall Saturday night for this Canadian songwriter Hall of Fame induction. One day you'll get invited, Dave. Don't count yourself out. But Feist was inducted. And then they have, you know, she's singing one, two, three, four to like, uh, Sesame Street Muppets or whatever. You see it on the screen or whatever. It's like, oh yeah, I'm like,

oh yeah, that is like a kid's song. One, two, three, four. I was like, yeah, this is like something you'd hear in like nursery school or something. Okay. Right. All right, we digress, man. Because the album I'm keen to get to is called seven second surgery. Okay.

So many big hits. This is a big, is this your first full length release? As favor drive, yes. As favor drive. Oh yeah, you never even referenced it. So when are you favor and when do you add the drive and why?

So literally we added the drive because the symbol on the A and the V. The designer who sent us the original favor drive with that symbol, It's got an A and a V that looks really cool. It's almost like a ying and a yang sort of symbol. Because the name, so was our producer, Joey Moy, he suggested going with the name Faber. And I was like, dude, that's my last name. I don't want to be that guy. Van Halen did it?

Yeah, but their names, I think Faber sounds cool, but Van Halen's pretty epic. That's like, that's true. I feel like that's a bit of a battle for me to, but anyways, I didn't like it. Yeah, yeah. So I went home and I asked all the friends and family. Of course, my family loved it. But my friends, they thought it was cool too. So we went with Faber, and then our lawyer at the time, Chris Taylor, shout out Chris Taylor.

He's a co-manager with me now too. Absolutely. But he suggested changing the name favor because there was a bunch of companies, a bunch of bands that had the name favor. And he's like, you should try and come up with a word, a make up a word or something. And so the only thing we could come up was Faber Drive. We literally, Faber Drive was just because we had nothing else and the symbol in the A and the V. not that sounds better together, I suppose, but I'm surprised there's other bands called Faber.

I think there was back then. There's some other Faber. I think they went the way of the Dolberg. You know, these are lawyers or whatever, they always got to like protect your best interest long term. So adding a drive worked. Okay. So tell me the story, writing the songs,

who's in the band? Like, shout out the OG member. You're the only OG member in Faber Drive today. Yeah, it's very true. So on October 4th, when people can see you in Toronto, which venue are you playing at? The concert hall. Okay, the concert hall.

Great venue. Okay, so October 4th, that's only a few days away. If there are tickets available, grab them, see Faber Drive because they're on their seven second surgery. I like this tour title. You ready? 19 and a quarter anniversary edition. I like that because you could have just said 20th.

Nobody's going to call you out on it. But you went with 19 and a quarter. I think that's cool. Well, we're going to do the 20th next year. Okay. You son of a bitch. double dipping. Yeah, we are.

That's bullshit. Get the hell out of my basement. Nick, take the mic. We had to catch the wave, man. We had to catch the wave early. 19 and a quarter anniversary edition. The concert hall, October 4th. So who's in the band when you are writing the songs and recording seven second surgery?

19 and a quarter years ago? I'm going to answer that. Can I answer part of something else for this Sunday? So you were saying we're playing the Sunday. So we're playing with two good friends of ours, a guy named Charlie Edwards. word. I don't know if you've ever heard of Charlie you've got to check him out dude. He's like a Bon Jovi um

sad sad he's not gonna sell him on like you're not selling him to me no no you're not a bon jovie guy. Def Leppard you don't like the classic rock like a Brian Adams sort of rasp in the voice. Jim Valance was at Massey Hall Saturday no way. Yeah he was there he was inducting lover boy. Whoa wow yeah. Mike Reno there's a well Mike Reno by the way no show that's what's going on in Mike Reno's life he can't be at

Massey Hall to be inducted in the Canadian songwriters' Hall of Fame. Also, I had the opportunity to talk to Loverboy and I said, okay, give me Mike Reno, because he was on Tears Are Not Enough and I had a bunch of questions. And I was told Mike Reno politely, I don't even got the word politely. He declined the invitation to come on Toronto Mike. So I talked

to Paul Dean instead. And Paul Dean was amazing, guitarist and songwriter. But Mike Reno didn't even show up at Massey Hall. Oh, man. I don't know. Maybe he's got stuff going on. I don't know. But back to these these these these I absolutely owned the cassette of pyromania and hysteria.

Oh! Okay? And I loved hysteria. So, and I own Slippery when Wet by Bon Jovi. So in the eight, at that time, I absolutely did like Bon Jovi. I remember enjoying slippery when wet. But now I don't like Bon Jovi, so I don't know what changed. But I'll still enjoy Def Leopard. Yeah, yeah, I'll Def Leopard.

They're one of my, I'd say they're in my top five for sure. Okay. What's your favorite Def Leopard song? Oh, man. by. I don't know. I love fooling. I love they got a photograph. Shout out the nickel back. Yeah, photographs so good. Who had it first? Mutt Lang.

I just love the stories too. I honestly I'm a little weird. Like I have like albums from bands that I love. I probably a lead head and U2 guy, old school U2. Okay, like the Joshua Tree or before that? Yeah, no, Joshua Tree and every, I went all the way up to

Octung Baby. And then the next one was Pop or something? No. Yeah, I'd say the pop one I didn't like that much But there was another one that had Um,

uh, Stay. I can't sing it right now. It's funny that band U-2 Which was huge when I was in my primary school growing up, U-2 was like the biggest band. Yeah.

And then of course they kind of peek like commercially or, not maybe not actually commercially, but they kind of peak with Joshua Tree. Like what a fucking amazing album Joshua Trays. And then I was into Rattle and Hump and Zoropa.

Zoropa. That was one I was singing up. But I dropped off. I had Octung Baby. Yeah. And that was the last U-2 album I ever bought was Oct-Tun Baby. Oct-Tube baby's so good, man. The lyrics, who's going to ride your wild horses?

Go read those lyrics. Do yourself a favor. Anybody listening to this? Go read the lyrics to who's going to ride your wild horses. Taking a note on that too. Right now. So good, shout out to Gino Vanelli. Wild horses could not drag me away from you.

Oh, so good. Came out in the same album as Black Cars. Nice. Let's get off black cars already. Okay, so where were we? All right, I'm trying to find out about the recording of seven, because I'm going to bring it back here. Not since Ramey the Minks was on the show.

Okay. I want to know about seven second surgery. The band members. And I'll play a bit of, and I want to know just, like, give me a little taste of creating that album almost 20 years ago. And then now you're celebrating it again with this national Canadian tour. People should check it out. But I'm actually going to play a song or two from seven second surgery.

And just like, give me the deep dive on seven second surgery. Well, I mean, there's kind of some truth to it. I don't know how many seconds it took, but I actually had vocal surgery, which I never actually really put the two-and-two together. Had vocal surgery during the recording of that album. How come? I had a polyp on my vocal cords.

Too much over abuse. Just yelling? Yeah, yelling like the trains are coming or something. I don't know. But you could have ended up sounding like Tom Waits or something. I know, but I... Could have worked for you. Yeah, I know.

It just was getting in the way the podcast. haul up and yeah so you never connected the who named the album seven second surgery i think we did collectively me and the band boys and we're just like what are we going to call this album and we're let's just call it seven seconds or just got it's got a cool ring to it alliteration yes and we were big into alliteration that you know like the nickel back thing back then was and still to this day i think is all about the songs and that was one thing our producer pushed on us joey moye was the song the song the song the song and that's how songs like tongue tied and when i'm with you and second chance all came about. And I think, you know, to this day, I'm still proud of those songs.

And, uh, yeah, there it is. You said the S words. I did. Mr. Message, you got it wrong. It wasn't what your friends said. Tell by your tone. I've taken it too far. All right, Dave, second chance. Okay, just while we're talking about this era here, like, do you remember writing this song? Who wrote it? Yeah, uh, we wrote it collectively. It was a bunch of us writing it. It was me, Chad, Kruger, Joey Moy,

the boys in the band, Red Bull, Raymond Bull, my brother-in-law, and Dave Hinsie, our guitar player, and then Jeremy Little Cricket, our bass player. Shout out to Buddy Hawley. Right on the Crickets. Oh, right, okay. All right, work with me, Dave, okay?

I've smoked a little weed this morning, just kidding. Okay. All right, so I'll bring it down here, but yeah, just a little bit about, recording seven second surgery and then the fact that this is an anniversary edition I'm going to play another big hit from seven second surgery but yeah a little more like a little more

detail from you so writing the song so I had a song called It Ends which a lot of the fans actually know that song like the fans that go way back to like sex and love days and stuff like that the song was called It Ends I brought it into the studio the boys loved the song

what they said that they didn't think the chorus was quite good enough. It ends, you can actually find it on YouTube still to this day, but that is the son that became tongue-tied, which was our biggest hit. I think arguably our biggest hit off of seven-second surgery. And, yeah, so these verses, I remember writing these verses, but it was a slower picking guitar,

and we changed it into this, and then Chad helped a lot writing this chorus. And, yeah, Chad's awesome to work with, man. He's such a genius. Hold, let me hear this. This is how you remind me. Yep. All right. Hold on.

Let me hear a bit of. So what's it like when you're hearing this song on the radio and things are breaking for favor drive? It was crazy. I remember going back to C-Fox. You were talking about C-Fox earlier. I remember hearing second chance for the first time on C-Fox and just freaking out. Me and my drummer at the time, Red Bull. We were just running around the house, jumping up and down and super excited.

And so that was crazy, you know. Yeah, and then, you know, the other songs that went to radio too, like when I'm with you and tongue tied and second chance. It was such a rush back then. But I, yeah, grateful for those times, man. Grateful for the memories. Everything Joey taught me and Chad, the boys in the studio there, was a lot of fun, a lot of good memories.

Fuck. Fuck, this song's going to sound It's been two years to the day. Half the time I've been away. I know I'm not there enough, but that's going to change. Because I'm coming back to show you that... Fuck, this song's going to sound amazing on a Sunday night, man.

Thanks. Listen to that. Okay. So you mentioned... Well, I mean, I'll just give you the numbers. I don't know if you want to brag about this, but seven second surgery surpassed 90 million streams. 90 million streams.

And when you're recording this, you don't know what the fuck a stream is. Yeah, no, he didn't know what stream was. It was MySpace back then, man. Right, right. Yeah. Oh, I remember. Now, so 90 million streams,

and then this song and tongue tied, they both go top five on top 40 radio in this country. Crazy. Platinum and gold certifications, respectively. Like, that's a big, album seven second surgery multiple hits big album but can i tell you a story yeah for sure all right so i don't know lots of the story but i i get like a haircut every three months or whatever like i just bring it in and then it goes out like a mushroom and then i bring it in like every three months okay

and i have a guy named he's actually i oh i have the phantom lung logo back here but he's uh plays in this thrash band where there's no melody like there's i'm hearing a melody in your music you know what i this guy phantom lung and this guy's name is andy okay andy dinner is his name, okay? He was my barber for years, and I would just every three months, go and see Andy. He could walk over, although I usually bike over. He'd cut my hair. This was our deal, man, okay? Andy up and left for New Brunswick. Wow. He's like, I'm going to help my parents build a fucking house or something, okay? Good for him. That's a very honorable thing. But what about my hair? Okay. So, I hear you. I just liked, I walked in, he did the usual, and we had this

routine down. I like routines, okay? But I go, Andy, who's going to cut my hair now? You're in New Brunswick. Can't do that virtually. Yeah, cut it by Zoom. Okay. Soon they'll have like bots. He's going to walk you through it.

Hold the scissors. Geez, probably. Anyway, he goes, you've got to see my protege, Graham. So yesterday I got my hair cut by Graham. This is just yesterday. And Graham's 31 years old, man. He's got tattoos on his face. It's a whole different, you know.

I don't think Andy had face tattoos. But okay, so Graham and I are having a great chat. And I'm like, hey, do you remember face? or drive? He goes, he's 31. I might as well have said, you heard of the Beatles? Okay. You heard of, you heard of these four mop tops from England? Fucking crazy reaction. He starts rhyming this. He goes, these are still my playlist. And then he starts singing and telling me, I still go to, and he names a song, okay? And the song, I know this song from a different artist. And he starts talking about the song, and I go, I realize there's 30, and you must realize, I'm going to play the

song right now, and it'll make more sense for the listenership. But there are 31-year-olds out there where you have recorded the definitive version of this song I'm about to play, and where when they think of this song, it's your voice, it's Faber Drive. To them, this is your song. You want to hear it? I know you know what it is, but you want to hear it? Okay, let's play it. Tell us why you chose to cover

Cutting Cruise, I Just Died in Your Arms Tonight. You know, we were just looking for a cool cover song to cover, and that was just one of those songs that's always stood out to us. It was one of my favorite songs from the 80s, and such a great song. Funny thing is, though, I believe this is the old version. Tell now. Where did you find this one?

Was this on the new re-release? of seven second surgery? No. This would be the OG version that you released. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we re-recorded it on the re-release of seven-second surgery album

as a bonus track. We re-recorded it with a production team called the Renaissance out of Vancouver. Were you inspired it all by the Atari's and boys of... Were they Boys of Summer? Oh, Alien Ant Farm did that. Alien Ant Farm did this.

The Atari's. No, no, no. They didn't do this song. No, no, but they did, they brought back 80 songs. Boys of Summer was an 80 song, Don Henley. Yeah. And then the Alien Ant Farm did Smooth Criminal by Michael Jackson. Yes.

But they would bring these 80 songs and they'd have like alt rock hits with them. And like that's similar thing you're doing here. Yeah. But for guys like Graham, it's not a cutting crew song, man. Right. Crazy. To me, it's just wild because you and I are similar vintage where we live this, oh, this is a song by cutting crew that was all over the radio.

But not, man, you got guys. guys like Graham walking around. They hear this song and it's like, Faber Drive. And then they hear the cutting crewers are like, who's this? Why are they doing a cover song with Faber Drive?

You know what? I bet you that happens. Yeah. I bet you that happens here. Okay, so I was just curious why you did because it sounds great and it's on seven second surgery, but you know, you're covering an 80 song,

Alien Ant Farm style. Cool, though. Yeah. Thanks. Cool, cool. I want to quickly shout out because before this conversation gets away from me, I want to shout out

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a great podcast from Ridley Funeral Home. So much love to all the partners of Toronto Mike. I basically kind of have a, I kind of want to play something new from you, but I also want to play something that's adjacent to you that you can talk about. I'm just thinking in my mind which one I want to do first. Can I do

the, can I close with the new Faber Drive and then just play something else that you're going to tell us about? You ready? Yes. How much time you got? I'm good to go for how. No, I'm not in a rush. Okay, because usually my mind has this at 60 minutes. So, uh, okay.

Do we have another press though or no? Give me, okay. No more press. Okay, but, um, I would love to talk. I would love to talk about Palfu. You know what? You're blowing, you're blowing everything. How dare you?

What do you think? Honestly God, Dave. I just set it up. I'm so sorry. Get the fuck out of my basement. Not right now. I didn't, nobody knows what that is.

Well, dude, I know everything. But you know what, I'm pointing to Nick here because get your camera rolling. I'm going to fake that I'm really pissed of Dave and he's going to storm out of here. He's doing it. And it's going to be the first time at Toronto my guest

has stormed out of here. And I've been waiting for this for like 12, 13 years. Okay? So you write Dave. Dave, I just set it up. I was going to play it and you fucking trampled over my bit. What's wrong with you? Dude, it's not your kid. Get out of here. Get the fuck. Wash your head when you get out of here.

You son of a bitch. Rowan is fucking get out of here. Get out of here. You know what? I don't think I sold that because it was too contrived. Everything's got to be organic. Is he coming back? Because I actually want to play.

Did he lock himself out? Holy shit. Dave Faber did storm out, but it was all a gimmick. Okay. That was great. Take two. You ready? Just kidding.

No, just kidding. So don't hit your head because I actually was going to play. You know what I'm going to play. You really did blow it, though. talk with something else. No, I'm doing this first. Okay. And then I'm closing with favorite drive, okay?

That was great. That was great. By the way, did you get that in video? I feel like I was smiling too much. I need to do it with like, I need to think about. Should we do a take two? No. I don't like contrived stuff.

You need to organically and authentically get pissed me in storm out of here. Or it doesn't mean anything. Drop your drumsticks, your pink drums. All right, let's listen to this. Don't stay away for too long. Don't. I'll make a cup of coffee for your head You'll get you up and go out of bed

Y I don't want to fall asleep I don't want to pass away I've been thinking of our future Cause I never see those days I don't know why this has happened but I probably deserve it I tried to do my best but you know that I'm not perfect I've been praying for forgiveness you've been praying for my health

when I leave this earth hoping you'll find someone else because yeah we're still young there's so much we have I've been done getting married start a family watch your husband with his son I wish it could be me but I won't make it off this bed I hope I go to heaven so I see you once again my life was kind of short but I got so many blessings happy you were mine it sucks that it's all landing Sees. Coffee for your head by Pao Fu. Now you can tell us.

Who the hell is Pao Fu? Your turn, Dave. All right. Pao Fu is my oldest son. Real name is Isaiah Faber. Very proud of him. He's a good man. Loves God, loves people, loves his fans.

Yeah. And he wrote that song. in our basement when we lived in Mission with his little computer and he had headphones that he couldn't hear his voice on but he would just record on the mic and he didn't even have a proper setup and then he recorded this song

and it blew up man, blew up and yeah, I don't know if you have any of the stats or anything but it got it was the number eighth most played song in the world in 2020 on Spotify no it's huge and on Friday night I was at Palais Royal

talking about this song with the VP, Tyler Campbell. Wow. Yeah, we were talking about this song. It features Bia Badooby samples. The song Coffee from 2017 sampled in there. But yeah, Palfu is Dave Faber's kid. Okay, how many kids are you got?

I got four. I got four, too. Nice, man. We're tied for first place. My oldest hasn't recorded any hits at all. Like, I'm angry right now. Well, did you buy him a drum set when he was two years old? No.

Yeah, you got to start there. You know what? I need to build it. the time machine do this right. Okay. Honestly, you must be proud. I would imagine your son having a hit would mean more to you than you having a hit. Like, this is how it is. I know what that feels like. Honestly, amazing. And that song is fantastic. And if Palfu is listening, I love that song very much. And I can't believe that's your boy. Thanks, man. Yeah, I can't believe it either. I can't believe you almost trampled all over that bit. I was setting it up. I was going to blow minds.

Because people know that song. And then you're going to reveal at the end. I'm going to do. Who the fuck is Paifu? And you're going to be like, my oldest son, boom. That's how it was in my head. It's supposed to go. Yeah. But then I, but then I screwed.

You know what? You were too proud. Like, you were, you were, you weren't too proud to beg. You were too proud. You were like, I got to, I can't risk the fact he doesn't know about Palphu. Yeah, that's what happened. Do you know where you are, though? This is, you know, can I tell it?

I know. You're good at doing your homework. That's the thing, right? You thought you were on mic'd up, which is a completely different podcast. Yeah, yeah. Would you have said. If you had known it was Toronto Mike, you probably would have been like Mike fucking Reno, and you would have been like, No Way, Jose.

Exactly. Okay, one more song loaded up, right? All right. Have you heard the Faber Drive version of Deathbed? No, but after you tell me about this, I will find it. All right. Back a time, but nothing like this. Watch you and me have no words exist.

Your hand over my feel of your breath. Tell me about this new Faber Drive. This is, uh, the little. latest single of ours is called The Beat of My Heart Goes and we spent a lot of time recording this one, a lot of fun with our producer, JVP. And it's a song that actually started writing close to 20 years ago. No, not that long. Probably 12 years ago. And it's just about, you know, just a somebody that you haven't seen in a long time and but you had a connection with them and you've now seen them again and you're just, all the memories are coming back, you know,

kind of not a first love necessarily story, but something about love this story is, and it's just, yeah, yeah, the video, we're really proud of the video too. I co-directed the video. We did it over a day and a half, and the stipulation with the videographer was we need to get lots of sunrises and lots of sunsets.

So we got a day and a half of sunrise and sunset in that video and lots of slow-mo. Very cool. I found your cover of your boy's song here, so I'm going to play it in like two seconds. Perfect. We talked quite a bit about Nickelback, but it's worth pointing out that you

You've also toured with You mentioned Simple Plan But Simple Plan, some 41 Personal favorite of mine Billy Talent Nice These are great Canadian bands Shout out Billy Talent man

Yeah And Our Lady Peace They're having a massive comeback right now too I saw them on Saturday night No way They covered locked in the trunk of a car When tragically hip were being inducted Oh no way

Yeah That's cool There's a bit I don't I'm pretty sure Rain made as the only OG member of Our Lady Peace left in the band. Yeah, that's funny because my buddy Jason Pierce, I think that's, I always forget his name,

but I think his name is Jason Pierce. I think he's playing drums for Our Lady Peace now. Well, or bass or something, or is it the original drummer still? No, Jeremy Taggart's the original drummer. Taggart hasn't been with that band in a long time because he came over here over a decade ago to talk about leaving Our Lady Peace.

Oh, wow. So he hasn't been Arleigh Peace a long time. I don't think that was a happy following out. And Mike Turner was an OG guy. He left early, much earlier than Taggart. So, but it's interesting because you're playing October 4th at 888 Young, and you're the only OG guy left from Faber Drive. Yes, sir.

So you and rain. Yeah, me and Rain. I mean, Seamus, my drummer, has been with me for about 15 years, and he's awesome, and he gets it. And we're just so grateful and thankful for this comeback. And, you know, the re-engagement with all the fans and everything. So, yeah. Okay, you want to close with Faber Drive covering Deathbed?

Yeah, covering my son's song, Paifu, Deathbed, for sure. Sure. That's cool. Okay. And he, I'm trying to get him to jump on stage with us at one of the shows on the tour. So if he does, it's super exciting. Speaking of the tour, okay, so you're obviously in South Othotbical right now on Toronto Mike, even though you thought you're on. Oh, it's not Edibacoke. That's what I called it this morning. Well, that was in a documentary about this guy.

Don't fuck with cats it was called and they called it that made me laugh. Okay. So you're off to Montreal though, where my daughter lives. Nice. I'm obligated to say that when I say Montreal. So you're off to Montreal for a gig on September. 30th. Let us know if you want to get her plus a friend on the guest list. I actually

believe she'll be here. I know. Because her boyfriend is here, but I think she'll be in Toronto. So we'll have to get her out on Sunday night. But we got Ottawa. You're in Ottawa on October 1st. You're in London, Ontario. October 2nd. And then, of course, the big Toronto show is October 4th.

And then you're off to New Brunswick. Maybe Andy Dinner, Andy the Berber, can come see you in Fredericton, New Brunswick. Or Halifax. Or Moncton. The sold-out show in Halifax. Yeah, he's a New Brunswick guy, though, but that's closer. That's all the same. Wonderful.

They're all within the same few kilometers, aren't they? And then in mid-October, you're off to the prairies, I guess. So you're off to Manitoba, then Saskatchewan, Edmonton, Alberta, home of Monica, and then Calgary, and then BC. And you'll close out October 24th. You're in Vancouver, you know, nearby where it all began. Dude, I loved, I got to say, I absolutely loved this chat with you about Faber Drive, man. Dude, thank you so much, Mike.

And it's not miced up. It's Toronto mic, so thank you, man. That was a ton of fun. Yeah, we put it on the teleprompter for you. That's one weird thing about teleprompters. So my seats were pretty good at this Massey Hall thing. So I could see the teleprompter where people would say speeches. They'd induct Feist, for example, she'd do a speech.

So what's weird to me is, like, the fact that shouldn't you be speaking from the heart? Like, is that normal? Like that your speech where you're talking, like Feist is talking about what writing music means to her, how much does the award means to her, and it's reading, she's reading from the teleprompter. I think those speeches should be like from the heart and the head. You don't need that on the teleprompter? Yeah. I don't know. I am a guy that likes to read things that are written down. So if I prepare a speech and like have a teleprompter. Yeah, I would prefer. What do I know? I mean, you can, yeah, it's like writing a song, right? It's like you, you can't just like,

Okay. You want to write it from the heart, but you still have to write it down physically so you remember the lyrics, you know, sort of thing. But I do agree with you, though. You sold me. You sold me. I've changed my mind.

Congrats on the new music. The beat of my heart goes. Sounds fantastic. And of course, I hope people come out for the seven second surgery, 19 and a quarter anniversary edition tour. Pleasure meeting you. We're going to take a photo by Toronto Tree.

I will get some beer for Nick, though. I think he'd like some fresh craft beer. from Great Lakes Brewery. Everybody come out to GLB Brew Pub tonight. Let's go. 6 to 9, man. Man, if Dave Faber showed up, I'd have to hire security, I think.

So don't do that. I don't want to pay for security. And that brings us to the end of our 1,9801st show, 1981. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, well, I started in 2012, and I fucking don't know

how to slow my role. Every once in a while I say, Hey, Mike, what if you? you did one episode a week, maybe two, five episodes that week. And I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with me? What? You do five episodes a week, dude? Sometimes, sometimes. And you're on 1980? What? That's crazy, bro. What should I do for episode 2000? You've got to be the most prolific podcast in Canada. I'm going to get a T-shirt that says that. Most prolific podcaster. You know what they say? It's quantity, not quality. That's what I say, day. That sounds like pretty quality to me, man.

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episode and the Redley Funeral Home. They have a new episode of Life's Undertaking recording this afternoon. See you all. Well, here's how it works. You'll see me in person tonight at TMLX 23. The next in-person episode will be with the legend that is Jane Eastwood. She's in the basement tomorrow. But I'm actually going to draw up a tribute to David Marsden later today. So, 1982 will be a tribute to David Marsden, who passed away at the age of 85, a legend, a legend. and then Jane Eastwood tomorrow. See you all then.