Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - David Alter: Toronto Mike'd #1445

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

In this 1445th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with David Alter talking Leafs, U2 and more. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Ho...me, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Team and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:01:45 This is my third time. This is your third time. It feels like it's been more because I think we talk about you a lot on like, you're a frequently you come up and we can do and then McFridays merged over to a new thing. Yeah. Toast. You don't listen to toast. I just always know you have a lot of time on flight.
Starting point is 00:02:03 You know, when they do rebranding they always you always Remember what it was originally called of course you could toast is hard to remember because toast is so generic so right it's it's like I I Associated with other things in my can I blow your mind and tell you that stew and cam have not been on toast in Over a year now Wow, that's how Cam is a big way now. I Find now because of my job in his job. We actually have more business Communication and what isn't he focused on again?
Starting point is 00:02:35 We won't disclose too specific a detail because he gets really nervous, but I would think he would deal more with like 5g yes deal more with like 5G. Yes. And less with like, uh, M L S E. It's true, but there are situations where that brand and the brand that I cover have merged. And because that brand literally owns 37.5% of the brand that you cover. It's true. And you of course cover the Toronto Maple Leafs Hockey Club, not to be confused with the Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Club. I see the tie in though.
Starting point is 00:03:13 You see, in fact, okay, so we have a lot of ground to cover and I want to find out why you're looking so damn good right now. Like I can't stop staring at you. You look chiseled. So you're going to tell us why you look so good there's questions that came in I have music I have an enormous quantity of gifts for you it was worth the drive here to New Toronto even though you were probably down the street I was I just put up an article and then made my way down here so wow and then we're going to talk a little
Starting point is 00:03:41 bit I want a little bit of Leafs talk. We rarely talk about the Maple Leafs on this program. We're gonna do a little bit of that before I set you free. But we mentioned Toronto Maple Leafs. So right off the top here, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball Club. This is a kick-ass book on the history of that franchise that plays at Christie Pitts here. Have you ever been to a Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game?
Starting point is 00:04:04 Not only have I been to a Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game? Not only have I been to a Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game, I've covered Toronto Maple Leafs baseball games. My mind is blown. Any fan 590 alumni that you probably get that would be around my age has probably done that if they were interns there. Because it was part of the assignment when you were learning how to report
Starting point is 00:04:24 or they would find opportunities for you you know of course back then in days of yore yeah the belief there was a fan 590s got to be at everywhere and so they made sure that there was a body present to cover whatever it was and yeah I've never seen that I'm jealous. The Scott Metcalfe gave this to me like wow that's why I've never seen that. I'm just met calf gave this to me like wow. That's why I've never seen it. There was a special episode 1430 of Toronto Mike to where we had a, I did listen to that. Okay. So he gave it to me to correspond with episode 1430. That's fantastic. I have every fan flash that there is with the exception of that one. And here's the one that predated that
Starting point is 00:05:01 was a smaller one. So JCL for that's crazy. Those are are great. Should be the museum, right? Okay. So we're going to get you back to Christie pits this summer. That's going to be my agenda. I'm going to get David Alter back to Christie pits, but that's my off season. So it'll be no problem at all. Well, we're going to make it happen. So I'm giving you that book and I'm also giving you a fresh craft beer from great lakes brewery. I know that's why you're here. It's right beside you. And of course a lasagna from Palma Pasta. It's delicious. It was a great meal last time. You're going to get another great meal. And if you come back to Great Lakes Brewery in
Starting point is 00:05:30 Southern Etobicoke on June 27th, that's TMLX 15, the 15th Toronto Mike listener experience, 6 to 9 PM. You've got to be there, David Alter. Yes. Okay. That's a commitment. June 27th. Oh, actually June 27th, I believe is the NHL draft. So I might be in Vegas, which is, I'm sure you're going to bring up later in this episode, but we'll see. Who knows what I'll bring up. You know, if you, now that I'm disappointed, you won't be at my birthday party. It's, it's, it's the draft. It's like the one of the things
Starting point is 00:05:59 that let your say, he said draft Schmaft. That's true. Okay. I say, you're Cliff and one more gift and then more gifts later But I'm gonna get to the meat of this program, but that is a measuring tape from Ridley Funeral Home pillars of the community Oh, there's some sound effects from David Alter. I love it. Okay, so Michael Traykos Do you know this guy? Maybe aware I may be aware of Michael Traykos It's funny how my career and his have intertwined, but yes. Shout out to Michael Trakos, FOTM. How many credit cards do you own?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Way too many. That's his question. So you have more than one. You don't need more than one. I have a lot and it's people think, oh, Dave's got credit issues. It's not like that. I actually have a newsletter. I have a newsletter about this, how I learned the art of churning to keep my travel costs down and I did that early early like butter Kind of but basically it's the art of signing up for a credit card To take advantage of a welcome bonus to offset your travel costs and I was doing that early in my second coming of as being a leaf reporter doing this as a business. And so it remind us where we can.
Starting point is 00:07:06 You mentioned you posted something just before you came here. Where can we read? I'm the Leaf site manager editor for the hockey news now. It's kind of funny. I started with the hockey news in 2021, then went to SI. SI and the hockey news have a partnership and now it's rebranded as the hockey news again, but the website is still the same thn.com slash Toronto. All the content on that microsite is all me and another gentleman by the name of Nick Barden that I've brought on and we're expanding and growing. And so
Starting point is 00:07:38 that's where we can find that we just hit 1 million visitors for the first time in a month this past February. Okay, congrats to you. I love these David Alter updates and you know, we all root for you in the TMU, the Toronto Mike's universe. We root heavily for you. Why you looking so damn good handsome? What's going on? You look chiseled. Yeah, so it's actually, I got a shout out, a guy who's followed my career. His name is Minaj. Parapat, I believe is how you say his last name. I can't remember, but you know, he, he'd followed my work. He's also a big YouTube fan like myself, and he invited me out to take a golf lesson. So I took a golf lesson with him and I did the
Starting point is 00:08:14 golf lesson. Is it M-A-N-O-J? Yes. He, he sent in a question for you. I might ask it now and you can, as you tell us more, but why you're looking so good. Yeah. Cause his question is about, he wants to know, uh, if you would, can what, what you would consider a successful season for the Detroit lions next year.
Starting point is 00:08:30 So just keep that in the back. Yeah, no, I will definitely answer that. But, uh, basically I went out with them for a golf lesson. The golf lesson went the way it was, but they film you, right? And I saw how I looked at them. Like, well, I'm letting myself go. There's a problem here. And I was working out a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Uh, I just, my diet wasn't under control, but I was working out a lot. I just, my diet wasn't under control, but I was working out a lot and my body wasn't changing. I got into, I saw GSP, you know, Jor Saint Pierre. I saw him do this interview on a podcast about when he started doing intermittent fasting when he was coming back for his fight with Michael Bisping in 2016. And a lot of what he was saying was making sense
Starting point is 00:09:04 and I kept hearing more and more about intermittent fasting and because it was the off season and because I'm not much of a breakfast guy, I decided to try it. So since early August, and I've maybe cheated four or five days since that time with travel and everything, every day I go exactly 18 hours
Starting point is 00:09:23 without ingesting a single calorie. and I eat all my food in a six hour time window. Sometimes it's shorter, sometimes it's longer. Which six hours have you chosen to do? So my lifestyle is such where I can't really choose it. I'm in different time zones all the time. So my strategy there is when I'm done my dinner for tonight, I will start the clock on my iPhone timer at 18 hours and I will not ingest any calories until then. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:50 This is so this is just basically a trick to reduce the number of calories that you know, it's not just that there's other medical benefits to it too. Because when you when you get into those final two, three hours of your fasting, your body goes into what's called autophagy and you literally get a new form of energy where you're not hungry because you're not some. Yes. It goes back to the caveman. Why they look the way they did. So basically how do they look? We didn't have cameras back then. Well, you could look at artists renditions, but they look like they look like muscly bound guys or whatever that just like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:24 went days without eating But then when they eat they'd eat a ton and so bad and you're literally using your stomach fats to fuel your body Okay, and that's and that's what happens in those final hours looking good lately is the great stewstone. We mentioned him earlier He's been doing it too. He well. He's not doing intermittent fasting fasting. It's hard to say that he's doing like something He's never done in his life, which is regular exercise. Oh, well, I was doing that, but I wasn't getting the results. I want you to want to be cut. You don't want to just be, you don't want to be healthy as much as you want to
Starting point is 00:10:54 like be cut. What is this? Like you want to be able to grate some cheese on those? Yeah. So here's what I love about this. Okay. I've done other, like I did some keto as well and I've done all this other stuff, but here's what I love about this I'm at the point now where Because I'm in this strict rule. Yeah, I can eat whatever I want in those six hours and will not stay with me I'm because of the 18 hours and it's just food right like you can still have caught black coffee, right black coffee water I sometimes cheat with diet drinks, which is a bit controversial But my argument is it's not proven scientifically to spike your insulin
Starting point is 00:11:28 So it's okay because that's the whole thing you're going 18 hours without spiking your insulin And that's where your body is now Going into your stomach fats to fuel the rest of you and that shrinks I was barely fitting into a 32 34. I'm a 30 and I have space in my pants, you know, whoa Yeah, that maybe that maybe was a bit too emphatic into a 32, 34, I'm a 30 and I have space in my pants. You know, whoa. Yeah, that maybe was a bit too emphatic. Well, you know, that's why you have the Ridley funeral home measuring tape.
Starting point is 00:11:50 We can find out how much space there is. Yes, we can measure. And there's, oh my God, I'm so glad you're here. I'm learning so much. I'm now doing my math. I'm glad to be here. I'm thinking like, okay, six is tough for me, but I'm thinking, but I actually think. You could do eight.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Like that's another form too. But you know, here's the thing, let's say this, okay. So I wake up in the morning and I'm going to walk through my life now. So I wake up, I'm doing whatever, whatever. And then I love to have my French press. I have a black coffee and it's pretty big. So I drink my black coffee. Now I'll tell you, to be honest, I usually add like a banana or something. Let's pretend I'm doing your thing. Right? So I can see, I can not eat at about noon. I like to go for a bike ride. So even if I haven't eaten and I'm still fine to go for a bike ride. So I would go for a bike ride at noon.
Starting point is 00:12:27 It's actually encouraged to try and work out toward the end of your fasting period. So now I'm back at approximately 1 30 now, 1 30. I'm now hungry. I just did a good 30 K I'm hungry. So 1 30, I'm going to have a meal. So if I started eating at 1 30, I could eat till 7 30 PM. I never eat after 7 30 anyways. David, I can do this. Yeah. And you don't, but the most important thing is do not snack. Do not do anything that interrupts that 18 hours. Have lots of water.
Starting point is 00:12:54 No cheating. No, because I talk to people all the time when I explain what I do and they're like, Oh, I do that too. Or whatever. I'm like, but you have coffee now. Yeah. But I put some cream in it while you just just I'm a black coffee man. Yeah. Well, I just got into black coffee with this because I was a almond milk or whatever. I cut sugar out of it 10 years ago, but then I couldn't have black coffee
Starting point is 00:13:15 unless it was iced. Like it was really weird. So I'm like, okay, for this, I have to go black coffee. So I did the same thing. I started making French press at home and I love it. I'm out of beans, which is why I've been kind of going for the to go lately. And that's a good reminder just because it's a busy time of year. I see you got a Timmy's there, but now you're in your six hour window, right? So yeah, that's probably black anyway. No, I'm eating. It is black anyway. Yeah, I just wolf down a BLT to get here because I literally went more than 18 hours. I went 19 hours without eating and you'll find as you do this, you can get used to that. Like your body adjusts.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Let me make a commitment to you. I will for fun, for shits and giggles, if you will, hopefully not literally. But you look pretty good too. Like you may not see the, like the advanced results that like for me it was like a massive change. Okay. So I noticed right away I could see you were chiseled in the face and I could see this guy's lean and mean right here. I hope he's not gonna beat me up here, but I'm glad to hear it's working for you
Starting point is 00:14:10 and you're feeling good, right? Cause that's the thing that you don't want to. And I can eat whatever I want. Every other diet, I felt like I was depriving myself of food I love. That's what I like about this. It's very easy. You know what?
Starting point is 00:14:18 I might give it a go and just report back. Like I might for even for content for the show, like I will give it a go just because I actually now realize it would be pretty easy, I think, to get to 130 without eating. And I don't have any interest in eating after 730 anyways. So I feel like I have a six hour period to eat. I think it could work wonders for you. Wow, David, I'm going to report back. You'll feel more focused too.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Like there's other benefits beyond just how you look. Like I feel more focused in my work and less distracted. Okay. If I were any more focused, I'd be dangerous okay but Minos did you want to ask like he I know you're a big Lions guy and I finally had a decent season yes they did what do they got to do next year to be successful they've got they've got to shore up their secondary that was a real problem for them in the playoffs and toward the end of last season as well.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So they got to get a safety maybe another corner and just shore that up. I like everything else. My only fear is Jared Goff had a good year, but I'm not convinced that him being a long term solution. So my only fear is that they commit to him for longer than necessary and then it becomes a problem. We've got the quarter of lines talk on the program. So very good. Now he also wants to know what was your, what was your off ice non hockey related highlight from the Leeds trip to Sweden last fall? Did you get to meet Jason Priestley?
Starting point is 00:15:36 So no, you know what, you know what the highlight was? I met the base. I met the basis from Europe. Yeah, it was so, it was so random. We were at this, but how did you know. Did he have a name tag? No, he mentioned it. He co-owns the bar. He has to mention it. We went into this place, Kevin O'grana, the Toronto Star recommended it. It's called Brodurnas Garlic and Shots. And we had garlic in our beer. That's what they were known for. It was kind of gross, but we tried it just cause when in Rome, right? So about tasting him out, I wouldn't want that.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Well, I mean, I didn't care at that point, but I tried it. So the bar wasn't busy, but you see all these passes hanging from the roof and it's got a 90s metal kind of or 80 like all these like music, 80s hair metal. Yeah. Like, but all kinds of stuff over. And then, so he comes up to our table. He was like, Hey, how are you guys doing? And, you know, just started a conversation and like, hey, so so yeah, we're rocky reporters. That's why we did this.
Starting point is 00:16:32 And then he bought us like from his bar, like actual beer that he likes from there. And then he says, you know, he's we're like, oh, are you a big music fan? How's this like, what's the theme? He's like, oh, I'm I'm a touring musician. I call in this bar. He's he was the bassist from Europe. And like, you know, phones, you Google it and like, what's the theme of these? Like, oh, I'm a, I'm a touring musician. I call in this bar and he's, and he was the bassist from Europe. And like, you know, phones, you Google it and like,
Starting point is 00:16:48 holy shit. Yeah, it's, he's actually the bassist from Europe. And, and we were talking about all kinds of stuff. I'm a big wrestling fan and, and so, so it's Stu, right? So, so I'm, I'm looked it up and I'm like, okay, I remember in an AEW show, they just sold the rights to final countdown to one of the wrestlers there and they used it at the wrestling show I went to this summer.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Like it was a big deal because Joey Tempest never wanted to sell it. So I said, Hey, I wonder if you made a pretty penny on this. And he's like, no, I didn't have songwriting credits. So he didn't get anything. And then he's like, how the fuck did you know that? Like shoves me. It was like so he was so caught off guard about how much I knew about that situation Wow Okay, he wasn't expecting it, but that was probably the craziest thing Amazing so you didn't meet Jason Priestley because he was there on that trip. No, I didn't yeah, they did the
Starting point is 00:17:39 But I've seen Jason Priestley before but if you can press this flash like I don't mean that in a dirty way But if you shaking hands giving a hug, yeah I think I've been yeah the fan he's come for a previous junkets when I was there and I think I interviewed him for Stuff I was a 90210 fan, but I was in hardcore. Yeah other people, you know, Stu is in 90210 He played David Silver's friend when they went to the gap. There's an episode Okay, I'm gonna have to rewatch that episode and remind me again because I know you I know you're connected to cam Gordon because yes Work with him at Twitter. Yes, that's true. But how are you connected to Stu? Well, I'm only connected to Stu by him railing over my love for disco tech
Starting point is 00:18:16 So it's through this show for some reason. I thought maybe you had another No, but then you are but then we raise you up all the time, but then we we stay I can't remember if we're connected any other way. I think there's, oh, you know what? I think he did some stuff with Megan boys too. And I have friends who did stuff with them too. So I think there might be that, but I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:18:36 But we've since tech, oh, you know what? It is Bowdog. Bowdog. Okay, now we're talking. Where's the Toronto Mike sponsorship by Bo dog. Hey, where is that? Well, hook you up. Well, we'll get you talking to the right people. But, but basically, so, so we did post games the last two years, we did a live on Twitter chatter X I guess now, right. Pre game while I'm at the building, uh, promoting that's okay. I
Starting point is 00:19:01 knew there was some, but that's probably reminding me, but David, if I may take credit for that, that connection there is probably my doing because cause Stu and gets get knows about David Alter because of, you know, discotheque on pandemic Friday. He was probably the biggest critic of me liking discotheque over anyone I've ever met. Put a pin on that. Well, maybe, maybe I could beat him. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:23 So we'll hold onto that. Captain oblivious wants me to ask you, uh, well, he says it would be great. I assume, you know what? I just designed, I have a bad habit. I assume gender on captain oblivious. I think it's because it's my gender that I identify as. So when I don't know gender, sometimes I just assume they're like me, you know, but captain oblivious doesn't have to be a male. That's just, uh, could be any gender. Okay. But Captain Oblivious writes, it would be great to hear David's true feelings about the Eglinton cross. Oh my God. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:52 I don't know how he doesn't know my true feelings or maybe not he, but I don't know how you don't do today. Don't assume. But I don't know how you don't, I how anyone who follows me doesn't know my I think he's probably he's probably he knows being sarcastic Yeah, they know so anyway, so listen I moved into the young and Eglinton area when shovels were in the ground as a 26 year old man But I'm a 41 soon to be 42 year old man Well lives right now to right next to Mount Pleasant station,
Starting point is 00:20:25 and it's still not open. So if there's a reason why my anger is more amplified, it's that reason. Like, I mean, I have the young station, it wasn't the only thing, but having that train would make my life and a lot of people's life a lot easier. And there's no other city of this population
Starting point is 00:20:44 would accept this lack of accountability. and it's one of my biggest Well, I peeves that you know allow this to happen. It is it's a huge embarrassment Like it's a massive clusterfuck, and I know what I also know Toronto is a city only response to embarrassment That's why I'm so relentless on social media about it. I usually am NOT this crazy I've actually had colleagues be like hey Dave you got a layoff about the Eglinton LRT. I'm like, no, no, I don't because we live in the most reactionary city in the world where they only react and do things fast if they have egg on their face about it. I think you might be right. Like I was doing, making, I was shaming bike, not bike. Who's responsible for the bikes that people rent in the city? Is that the city? That's it. Yeah. It's green pea, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:21:25 Doesn't green pea have a- I think you're right. I think you're right. So anyway, I, I, we had an issue with the lack of bikes during the winter at a lot of these places, like there was nothing there. Anyway, we were right. You have to shame people to get results. Like things are happening now. It was literally brought up in Olivia Chow's office because I made a stink about it. Like you got to kind of complain and make a stink and be embarrassed. And then maybe there'll be action. That's how it works made a stink about it. Like you gotta kinda complain and make a stink
Starting point is 00:21:45 and be embarrassed and then maybe there'll be action. That's how it works. That sucks, right? Okay, Ben Rabie. Yes. Do you know Ben Rabie? I do know Ben Rabie. I'm a fan of Ben Rabie's.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Who is Ben Rabie? Cause that's a great name, Ben Rabie. Ben Rabie, he grew up in Montreal. He actually interned at TSN. You know his whole resume, okay. And he went to Syracuse, I believe, for media and he lives in DC. Okay, shout out to Leo Rydams.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I've actually gone to a couple of U2 shows and some tennis stuff with him. Well, here's where he's going. So Ben Ray B writes, first time, long time. For Dave, which U2 track, this is, we're gonna do a segment here. I'm gonna break things down. Okay, so you got here, we did a little intro.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Now we're comfy. I gave you some gifts. Now we're gonna do a little U2 track. This is we're going to do a segment here. I'm going to break things down. Okay. So you got here We did a little intro now. We're comfy. I gave you some gifts Now we're going to do a little love you to segment then we'll segue over to leafs Which you to track best represents? This era this current era of leafs I'll hang up and listen says ben rabey. So I thought about this because I I did because you saw it on the x I did see it um says Ben Rabie. So I thought about this because I did see it but it didn't take me very long to come up with it and there is a track that you two have been touring off the Acton Baby album, which is one of their best if not the best, called So Cruel. And I think that track sums up
Starting point is 00:23:01 the Leafs' fate. Is it because such promise, but we're all left disappointed at the end of the season. There's that it's, it's more so kind of a relation to the fan base and the cruelty towards the fan base for having to endure what they've seen and the bad luck that comes along with being a leaf fan too. The Toronto Maple Leafs baseball club is having some fun with their tongue in their cheek by talking about it. In fact, I wrote it, I said it in the intro, but you know, eight championships since 1967. So of course these are not comparing apples to apples here people, but it's just a fun little line.
Starting point is 00:23:31 But we are, you know, you and I, I'm older than you are, uh, never seen our team in the Stanley cup finals. I mean, it is really pitiful and it, every year we add another year, 1967. Leave the stat that I saw that's been going around for the youngins is that they've never won three rounds in any particular playoff. Oh, because that was Pat Quinn era. Well, because early 2000s that was that was when they got to three rounds. And before when they won the Stanley Cup and they've never been to the final, it was it
Starting point is 00:23:59 was just two rounds, right? It was the semifinals and finals. So they've never won three rounds. I thought you were saying because I know my son who's 22 has no memories of, yeah, as a plane in three rounds, like we haven't played in three rounds since 2002 or 2002 is the last time they've played in three rounds of playoff. So I mean, now you've got people who are 22 years old. My son being an example of 22 year olds have no awareness. The year that happened.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Right, right. He was born just before he won gold in Salt Lake City. So he was around for that. But yeah, so now, yeah, really since then, you can look at a couple of times we won a single playoff series. We haven't won two playoff rounds since then. That's absolutely pitiful. But you're a Detroit Lions fan like this
Starting point is 00:24:47 Yeah, sort of uh, did I ever talk about that? Like why I was a Reminder remind. I was a big Barry Sanders fan growing up and I didn't believe in the whole geographic You have to be a bill so we don't have a team. Oh, yeah, I don't believe in that either I don't believe in that either. That's so team. We don't have you but in 2008 I honestly thought my career was gonna be pivoting to become an NFL reporter. I was covering the Bills as part of the Bills Toronto series at the fan. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And it looked like economically that Toronto was on its way to getting another NFL team. It didn't happen. I love football. I actually like football more than I like hockey. Okay. But it just didn't happen. But Detroit is where I get all my fandom out.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It was actually great. I watched the last playoff win in Seattle before the Leafs played the Kraken at a bar just before going to work. Well this was an exciting season for you guys. Oh it was exciting yeah I feel just the outpouring of positivity. I went to a game this season when the Leafs were off in DC. I went to go see them in Baltimore. They were five and one and they got smacked. I left in the third quarter, they were down 35 nothing. And it was like, it was like cruelty. I was like, I can't believe I finally go to a game here and this happens, but meeting all the Lions fans and seeing how many Lions fans made their way to Baltimore made the
Starting point is 00:25:59 trip worth it for me. Okay. Beautiful. By the way, there's an episode for you to listen to. It was last week. It was Bob Stella. Okay. And there's a lot of insight into the whole, you know, buff. Oh, sorry. PR extraordinaire. Yeah. There's a lot of discussion about the Toronto bills, like that whole experience. I'm definitely going to put it back in the old Bob was involved in that. So we did talk about it. The Toronto bills experience there. Love when there's like a callback.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Oh yeah. It was only last week too. And I really did. I like the Bob Stalick episode because we get to talk a lot of Harold Ballard. We can talk about, you know, his, you know, his brother and the, the court for Cornell trade and all that jazz. And we can talk about Maple Leaf gardens. And then, uh, you can even throw in some Toronto bill stuff there. Beautiful. That was last week. Do you manage your own financial investments, Mr. Alter? Or do you have a person? Well, I had, no, I have a, I have an accountant for the final different.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yes. No, I do. I do my own, I do my own everything else. Okay. I have, I have a podcast for you. Okay. It's called the advantaged investor podcast. Raymond James, limited Raymond James. Yeah, absolutely. Raymond Jamesor podcast. The Raymond James limited. Raymond James.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah, absolutely. Raymond James. And who plays at Raymond James Stadium? That's the Tampa Bay plays at Raymond James Stadium. I think so. I think so. I think Tom Brady was there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:15 The Advantage Investor provides the engaging wealth management information you value as you pursue your most important goals. So you get to get some great advice from financial advisors and you get to hear my good friend Chris Cooksie's voice. So that's what you're going to do. Subscribe to that podcast. I love that stuff. That's one of my passions outside of hockey. Well, that's managing finances and really everything I do now is as a business, just like yourself. I know where you have where you have to, you know, I cover all my own travel expenses, but I get my own revenue too.
Starting point is 00:27:45 So like it's, it's worth it. It's totally worth it. No other way to go. If you can do it, you should do it. Okay. So listen to the advantage investor and bookmark this site, recycle my electronics dot CA, because if you have old electronics, old cables, old tech, and you don't, you don't want to throw that in the garbage, they got a lot of those ends up in the landfill. So go to recycle my electronics dot CA and they'll say, Hey, David, drop it off here, man. And then you drop it off there. And then it gets properly recycled. So the chemicals do not end up in our landfill. You got it. We'll do you to time just for a bit. We're going to do a little you to segment
Starting point is 00:28:17 and then we'll get back to course. So just to refresh memories, it was in May, 2020 when I put out a call and I'm like, FOTM is around the world. Like what's like, what's your favorite song of all time? Like tell me about it. This was a pandemic times as you might recall. Anyway, let's listen. And it's a little quiet in the mix as I look at it. But let's see if we can hear this. All right, I'm gonna go a little bit off the board here. But a song that I absolutely love and had a huge influence in my life is
Starting point is 00:28:45 Disco Tech by U2. A very controversial single from the 1997 album Pop. They kind of went experimental and kind of danced and kitsch and a lot of diehard U2 fans hated it but I was 15 at the time or turning 15 and it just, I could not get that song out of my head. I thought it was weird at first, but then I just listened to it and watched the music video on my VCR nonstop. And that kind of sprung an obsession with me and that band where I went on to see them like 30 times so far. I saw them in
Starting point is 00:29:26 Berlin in 2018 but like I just loved the riff. It was so addictive and yeah I really love that song. Okay so that was the moment we played that clip on Pandemic Fridays. Wow. Me, Kam, Stu, all three of us. My audio is terrible, by the way. I'm embarrassed there, but it's OK. I boosted it when I put it on. No, but I just didn't have the equipment. Now I have like... It sounds fine.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I actually use lav mics for all my appearances now. Look at you. You've come a long way, baby. I have. OK, so next time you submit something. We are collecting audio for a new FOTM KOTK. Just say the word, I'll make sure. OK, it's songs that make you think about spring So a song you dig that reminds you of spring and I'm putting together the spring jams
Starting point is 00:30:12 So I'll tell you later not now, right? Well, just you record it on your own and just send me the file just I will do there and then I'll you'll be part Of any anyone listening can do the same thing Mike at Toronto Mike comm Talk about a song that reminds you about spring. Talk about it for like 30 to 90 seconds and then send it over here. Okay. Let me brew this in the background. And there are many mixes to this. This is the Mike Hodges mix and it might not be a preferred mix. It's definitely not.
Starting point is 00:30:36 So this is the one that went on the best of, right? Right. It was released many years later. It was on the, uh, like a great, I need a 2000. Okay. So I'll just put in the background discotheque, but I, we, it's much of my line because even people like me who I consider myself a YouTube fan, I was there for early YouTube and I was a big fan and, uh, Irish roots and all, but discotheque even just kind of sucked to me. Like, Oh, this isn't very good, but it's your favorite. Yeah, it's definitely my, it's definitely one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:31:06 They haven't really played it in a long time. I think 2005 was the last full. Well, what does that tell you? They're not proud of this song. No, they they snippet it. They sneak like they want to like listen to that bass riff. Yeah, but they have they have a wealth of material that is superior. Like they are not. of material that is superior.
Starting point is 00:31:26 This isn't Imagine Dragons, this is U2. No, but that's what U2 is about. They pushed the boundary of sound, especially in the 90s. The whole Actong Baby album was them giving an FU to their 80s sound. And it was controversial at the time. Yeah, but that album still had one on it. But that was a third single it took three singles for them to add to get the critic critical acclaim The first one was the fly which was the most different out of all of it
Starting point is 00:31:54 And now that that song is celebrated So tell me why is it that you think that got a question from Cambrio Cambrio says hey Did David Alter go see you two at Sphere? Yes, three times. Three times. Cambrio points out that they, he says, I don't think they played discotheque even once. No. Well-
Starting point is 00:32:14 But what is that? Let's have a frank discussion here. Now, this is subjective. If you love this song, there's no metric to say you're wrong. You love what you love, right? So the belief is Bono likes the song a lot edge likes The song a lot Larry doesn't love the song the drummer And there's mixed feelings there and also when they put the album out it wasn't finished
Starting point is 00:32:35 They were kind of rushed to kind of get an album out before their tour had already been committed to and it's something that they Haven't done since is it possible that they just realize hey we have 40 better songs we have 50 better songs we have 60 better songs. I don't know about that I think it's just they they know the reaction and there there is there is a premium on their time for songs right they don't like it's an Actual Baby Tour so you know 12 songs are already reserved and they only play 22 or 23 songs in a show so it doesn't leave room for a lot else they played atomic city that new single which i like a lot too i don't know if you've heard that one um but uh that song is really amazing live and what i love about U2 is you'll hear that but the way they performed this song live was even better and
Starting point is 00:33:25 like that's the magic of U2. A band that's- But it's been almost 20 years. And they still play their songs better live than they do online. I know I meant since they played Discoteque live. Oh yeah, 2005 was the last full appearance. They've done snippets. They did a snippet of Discoteque on this tour too.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So they always tease it but they just don't do it. Is there anything more annoying in the universe than somebody telling you your favorite band or your favorite song sucks? Like that's the worst. I don't care. It makes it unique. I'd rather be in a smaller Venn diagram than be a part of the collective majority, let's put it that way. and be a part of the collective majority, let's put it that way. What is your favorite, so you kind of mentioned it, is that your favorite U2 album, Akhtung Baby? I think Akhtung is my favorite, Pop is a close second, Joshua Tree, probably third.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And another album that got critically panned, which I think was really good, it just had its anniversary recently, 15 year anniversary of No Line on the Horizon, which was really great. It reminded me a lot of 90s U2. The only problem with that album was Get on Your Boots was the first single, and that song was nothing like the rest of the album. And there's a song on there called Moment of Surrender, which they do constantly snippet all the time. I think Lars
Starting point is 00:34:45 Alrick said it's probably the third best YouTube song they've ever created. The only... Brian Eno pushed for them to make it a single but they didn't because it's seven minutes long and they couldn't figure out where to shorten it. That music you heard when you first put on the headphones that was there for the live stream that was Brian Eno. A little fun fact. Brian Eno is awesome. I have gifts for you. This came courtesy of David Kynes, who works at Hollywood Suite. And if you subscribe to Hollywood Suite, you can stream many a Stu Stone directed movie, including Vandits. So, and maybe Faking a Murderer and other movies of that ilk. Okay. David Kine sent over a bunch of great stuff and I put these aside to give to David Alter.
Starting point is 00:35:28 David, you know, it's funny, you're even even this appearance, which was very of the moment. We didn't have this in the calendar very long. It's because my guest at two o'clock today was scheduled to be David Marsden and David Marsden is not well right now and couldn't make it. So we're thinking of the great David Marsden, the legend that is David Marsden, but we're talking about David Kines, David Marsden, and now David Alter. There's a lot of Davids.
Starting point is 00:35:52 I thought there was a lot of Mikes. There's a lot of Davids. There's definitely a lot of Mikes. There's a lot of Davids. There's a lot of Davids. Common name. David Clarkson. It spans many faiths as well.
Starting point is 00:35:59 David Clarkson, have they retired his number yet? What's going on over there? I don't think they're ever retiring his number. 71, right? 71, that's right. Cause it was like the reverse Wendell Clark. Well, that was a bad idea off the hop there. Oh my goodness. Poor, poor Mimico boy. Okay. So I'm going to give them to one by one and make a little noise here and you can tell me if you can, you can always gift them to somebody else if you already have all this, but this is
Starting point is 00:36:18 a DVD called you to go home. Great one. It's a great one. It was the only, it was the only a one of two outdoor shows on the elevation tour cause it was an all arena tour. And then they've in slaying castle. I think the country law was that they can only have one concert there every 10 years or something like that. It's like, uh, cause it's like, uh, it's this landmark. Like it's not something like they usually do croak park for the big shows outdoors, but youling Castle, so they actually were given two shows and one of the shows, I don't know if it was this one or the other one that they filmed for DVD here,
Starting point is 00:36:56 the openers. I need some music while we talk about this. The openers, there was one act that had Coldplay as the second last opener, then Red Hot Chili Peppers, then U2. That would have been a kick-ass bill. Okay. Well, I got more great stuff for you. This is called U2 18 Videos. It's a DVD.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Beautiful. I love this one. Okay. This one is U2 05, live from Chicago, the Vertigo Tour. Another great one. Okay. Look at this. And you kind of knew this was coming, but I've been holding onto these for like over a year for you to come. By the way, you know, I think the big reason you like discotheque so much is because you
Starting point is 00:37:32 are 15 fucking years old and the song that hits you when you're 15 implants itself and it's there for all eternity. Is that historically proven? I think it's almost proven. I bet you there's science behind this. So I'm playing a song I loved, and I don't hear anyone ever talk about it But I loved rattle and hum because I picked it up when I was about 15 years old I suppose if I do the math it's because the movie itself sucked see the album. So it's good
Starting point is 00:37:56 You got it's a great album and they have this live version With the choir which you know, I'll bring it up later when the choir gets going, but it gives me fucking goosebumps. It is a good one. Elevation 2001, this is live from Boston, U2, another DVD for David Alter. That's a great one. That one in 2001, there's a thing they do there. They were the first, that's the first ever tour where they had fans inside the stage. So Vertigo carried that forward, but this one, they had a inside the stage so Vertigo carried that forward
Starting point is 00:38:25 but this one they had a heart and and like it was like a catwalk and fans can go inside the heart and then after you two did it in 2001 every award show started doing it they what I love about them is they're really innovators okay you to zoo TV live from Sydney. This is beautiful. I love this show. This is my older brother. It's his favorite. And everyone who went to go see U2 at the Sphere, if they were old enough, remembers this tour
Starting point is 00:38:55 because that's essentially what they kind of reenacted there. And it's Bono with the fly glasses and everything. It was 90s U2 at its purest. Listen to this! 🎵You'll pick your own wonder home🎵 🎵He'll be the shelter from the storm🎵 Notes I will never hit. 🎵I believe in the inner cause🎵
Starting point is 00:39:20 I'm gonna bring it up for the big finish. Okay, how to dismantle an atomic bomb? special limited edition CD album DVD and book and never This one this is the moment everybody do know there's getting such swag. This is unbelievable Special limited edition album. This is fantastic. This is never being open. That's for sure And I mean, I know you have this but you might want another copy. This is simply a best of 1990 to 2000. Do you remember the single that came? Like you two is always of the mind that they can't do something that's like a pass without a single.
Starting point is 00:39:55 They got to put a new thing on it. They got to put a new thing. Do you remember what the new song was on this? Num. No, no, no. The song he wrote for his wife, right? No, that was in the 80s to 90s one called The Sweetest Thing. In 90 to 2000, they had a song that was for a movie center called Electrical Storm. I don't know if you remember that. I do have vague memories of Electrical Storm.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's fantastic. And one more here. Hold on here. I don't have this either. This is speaking of vinyl. This is speaking of vinyl. Seven inch vinyl? I'm not sure what it is. I'm not sure what it is. I just had a pack a box. It looks like a seven inch fun
Starting point is 00:40:27 It is okay. This is a seven inch vinyl. This is desire. Oh, it's a desire single. Yeah, that's something Wow Okay, so drink all the way here. She comes be beside Let's let you to remember these sides Listen, I'm older than you are listen listen son I'm pushing 50 over here okay you don't look at look thank you you're gonna do the time-restricted eating which is another term for intermittent fasting okay but you know you really don't need it you have a good body composition here's what we're doing I'm actually gonna drink this in man I'm having a great time with
Starting point is 00:41:00 you you got some gifts there I'm gonna let you two take us home here and then we're gonna talk some leaves. You ready? I can't! Oh, I can't! Oh, I can't! Oh, look, your voices are real. You know I can't! I can't believe it! I can't believe it! Oh, I can't believe it! I can't believe it!
Starting point is 00:41:38 I can't believe it! I can't believe it! I can't believe it! You know I can't! I can't believe it. I believe it. You know I do. What I see, I see. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. Searching, looking, hiding.
Starting point is 00:41:55 What I see, I see. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. I'm looking for. We need a big finish here David. Take me to church, let's go. I'm searching high and low across Looking all down
Starting point is 00:42:28 All the way down Wow. See, that's a religious experience right there, man. That's my religion. Hook that to my veins. See, that I like. And that would be, that is to me what discotheque is to you. I love when you put it that way. Yeah. Well, it depends. It depends how you hear discotheque and stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But yes. Now it's, you know, you'll be sad to know, I don't think they really did that song on the Sphere tour. They did do. No, that Joshua tree staple never made it to know I mean granted they played the entire front about where the streets have no name that Okay, so because I went there without you or oh that takes me back to grade school dance But here's the thing in 2017 when they did the Joshua tree tour redo. redo, and then they resumed their arena new album tour the following year, they made it a point
Starting point is 00:43:30 to not play a single track from the Joshua Tree tour on it. And they were like, listen, we played it to death. Okay, well they're the boss. This is our way to add some new music. And that's how Acrobat finally made its debut. That was one song on Act Home Baby that they'd never performed live before that fans have been screaming for. So that's that when you have a band like you two, it's you know, obviously,
Starting point is 00:43:52 you can say this about the Rolling Stones. You could probably say that this about Pearl Jam, maybe. But when bands have that deep a catalog, yeah, like sure. The fans like I'm thinking now I'm thinking Pearl Jam, like, yes, the fans expect to hear even flow. Okay, there's certain songs that they probably feel obligated to give their fans because they, you know, these are staples, but they actually have such a wealth of good content they can pull from. Like they could do 10 shows and have 10 radically different set lists. They could, but they don't because they know fans are coming for a certain track.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And it's tough because I wish they were like Bruce where they would play three hours. I'm going to see Bruce for the first time in November. Okay. So apparently he performs like three hours. This is what I hear. I can't wait. I can't wait to see Bruce. I haven't seen Bruce either, but I wish you two would do that.
Starting point is 00:44:40 A live act I did finally get to see for the first time of that similar era was Depeche mode in the fall. And that was a fantastic show at that show as I recall. Probably. Yeah. Probably. Okay. It was great. It was a great show. They played all the songs I wanted to hear. Sounds amazing. Okay. Again, Toronto, Mike, people like you come on and I'm so interested in catching up with you finding about finding out about your intermittent fasting, talking you to and stuff. We never talk Leafs, okay? So again, what's that URL people can go to right now at the hockey- THN.com, that's the hockeynews.com,
Starting point is 00:45:12 but at THN.com also works, slash Toronto. That's where you'll find the hub of all Leaf content. So if you take nothing else from this conversation, if you're at all interested in Toronto Maple Leafs hockey, then go there- Trade deadline this week. Trade deadline this week. Trade deadline this year.
Starting point is 00:45:26 So tell me what's going on, man. I, uh, I do watch, uh, here and there I follow, but I don't really give a shit till playoff time. Okay. So basically this season they got off to a bit of a worse start than maybe in previous years. Now in previous years they got off to a bad start, but they were able to nip it in the bud early, uh, for a while, you know, but they were able to nip it in the bud early.
Starting point is 00:45:46 For a while, you know, instead of just kind of being cemented in second or third place in the division, they were just kind of pushing in and out of a wild card spot, so we didn't know what was gonna happen. Now this past month in February, they went on a seven game winning streak, which is their longest since 2003.
Starting point is 00:46:04 If you can believe that this team has done what it's done and has not had a winning streak more than six games until this year. So they did that. They got themselves back in striking distance of second. They're probably firmly planted in Florida. Okay. So it's Florida and Boston and then us in our division. Yes. Okay. And they just played Boston and Boston and then we're then us in our division. Yes. Okay. And they just played Boston and I sound stupid here, but just remind us. Okay. There's two divisions in each conference.
Starting point is 00:46:30 They changed the format in 2014. What the current format is, is it, you gotta be top three and otherwise you get a wild card. Yeah. So they went back to divisional format in 2014. Remember it used to be one to eight in the conference. I prefer, but I do too. Trust me. No one insulted me. No, so now they have an even amount of divisions, four of eight teams. The top three are seated one, two, three, and they do divisional playoffs. And then four and five are wild card spots based on the remaining two in the conference. Right. So, okay. So, so they don't have to come. So basically the top three teams in the division are from the division are good. And if there's two divisions like that in each conference, I take care of six teams. The last
Starting point is 00:47:08 two spots go to the best point producing teams of the rest of that conference. So the final two, it could be. So like, for example, when the Leafs were struggling where they were, if they have the first wild card spot, they actually would have been flipped over to the other division, play the Rangers in the first round. Oh boy. So, okay. We played Boston last night and it was a four one. What was the final score? Four one was a final. Okay. So we look pretty firmly last night checked.
Starting point is 00:47:34 We looked pretty solidly. We're a third place team in this division. That's probably where we end up, right? Yeah. I mean, there's still six points back. Um, maybe more now with Boston getting those two points. So eight, it's going to be tough, but they could still slide and still go down to the wild card spot. So they still have to defend their spot.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I think the worst thing that could happen for the Maple Leafs post trade deadline is that they don't have anything to play for because that's been their problem the last few years. My argument is that they get to the trade deadline and then they know they're either going to play Tampa or host them last year for sure right? We knew what was going on in like December or whatever. It's the worst. It's that's why I hate this format. But then we won a series. See it worked. Well but Tampa was actually that much worse but I actually have this theory and it's proving true that how a team plays outside of getting your playoff position, getting
Starting point is 00:48:26 a points, everything is bullshit till after you play after the deadline when like you really have to start playing your peak performance hockey. So what is the win? It matters. So I'm going to, so let's go this way. Okay. So out of curiosity, if you finish third in your division, which we are right now, and it looks like, well, probably I'm going to predict we end up finishing third in this division. First round is against a number one seed. How does it work? Can you remind me? Sorry, say that again. So if we finished third, let's say yes, the number two team in that division. So that's Boston. Yes. Well, we're fucked, right? We're not getting boss. I mean, it's been, it's been five years since they played Boston. Boston's not the same
Starting point is 00:49:04 Boston team. They used to know, but they still look, I mean, you're right. I mean, it's been it's been five years since they played Boston. Boston's not the same Boston team they used to be. No, but they still look I mean, you're right. Boston lost to Florida in the first round after finishing with the best record in history. So there's a lot that could happen. Really, the one thing you have to look at is when the season ends, look at the remaining playoff teams and see how well they played March or yeah, March 8th and onwards. The teams that play best in that segment of the season are the teams that perform really well in the playoffs, typically. So how would you assess our goaltender situation as we approach the deadline and then, you know, we'll be in the playoffs. What is it? April? No clear number one, but both very capable.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I mean, Ilya Samsonov stole around, he stole a couple of games for them in that series against Tampa. You could argue Tampa should have won that series based on- And he had a nice rest, right? We gave him a nice breather. Yeah, they had to figure out what was going on with him, but he seems to be in a right head space right now.
Starting point is 00:49:59 And so they worked on it and he's back. Joseph Walls, two games back now from an injury. Yeah, they've got Martin Jones on the roster. They seem to be pretty set there. But I mean, it is a trade deadline. Who knows what's going to happen between now and Friday and forwards. I mean, always our strength, I suppose. But in Austin Matthews, any chance he wins the heart trophy this year? I think for him to win the heart, he's got to get 70 goals and he's at he's at 53 I believe right now. He's kind of slowed the last few games but it's kind of a joke that we're saying that because he's got 14 goals more than the next guy or 13 more than the next guy. So it's tough it's it's really um like goals don't necessarily mean you're the best. It's voted on. I get a vote.
Starting point is 00:50:47 But when he got 60 and he was MVP there, it's kind of hard to not argue that he shouldn't get it if he gets 70. It's wild. This franchise, which has been around a very long time, it's wild to think of how heads and tails he is above any other goal scorer that we've had in franchise history. Like he's so much better than whoever you'd put as your second greatest goal scorer in Maple Leaf. Super, super talented. Like unbelievable talent and and plays the full 200 foot game and is still able to put up those amount of goals. It's really something
Starting point is 00:51:17 else. We're lucky he's at Toronto Maple Leaf. Pausing for applause there. Okay So defense now I have a question for you. It's from Hildeby or not to be that would have a great handle to be okay. Hildeby is Dennis Hildeby is a fourth goaltender. See something, you know what I watched just now now that I don't have sports anymore, I don't know what's going on, but he didn't play yet this season. They were a lot of people were hoping he would get in a game, but it didn't happen. Is Lilligran on Leafs roster game one of the playoffs? I think yes. He's going through it right now, but the Leafs don't have a lot of options.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I think they're going to need him. So yes, maybe the third pair, third pair on the right side for Timothy Lilligran. How are we sure? You know, this is what wins championships, right? Goal, 10 in defense, multiple defensemen too. They need like nine. Cause there's injuries. So this is the case. When is the trade deadline? Friday, Friday, March eight for those listening in the past. So I suppose we have to go out and get a couple of, you know, well they don't have a lot of cap space right now. Like they, there's little to no cap space
Starting point is 00:52:26 They need I don't want to go too deep in the weeds for listeners But like if you want to get guys at the minimal salary You've got to have a third party trade partner to get the cap hit down to really minuscule number Why you think that would be a little bushkin? You don't think my listeners are smart enough to know I just it's not that it's just It takes an article of explaining explaining the salary cap. It takes a Raymond James sponsored financial advisor to actually figure out the the cap calculations about what what can and can't work. You're good at this. Okay. So tell us what you expect to see done by it was a Brad Travilling my Saint is last this last? Tra-living.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Tra-living. Okay. Yes. I remember his dad from Dragon's Den. Okay. Yeah. I love that show. What is the, what do you hope or what? No, you're not. So this is the other thing too. Like you're not allowed to cheer from the press box. You're covering the team objectively, but were you, were you raised a Leaf? Yes, I was.
Starting point is 00:53:22 So is there any part of you that when, I, I dunno, if let's say we go to game seven against the Bruins and let's say in overtime, Austin Matthews gets a goal, you'll catch yourself in the press box. Like you'll stop that. I'm so like, I might smile at the moment or I might smile for a bunch of other reasons, but you're like, Oh, what a great story. I'm very, I'm very desensitized to it. Like in that regard, it wasn't worth it though. I know you're more of an NFL fan, but like we, you're lucky in that you're covering the Maple Leafs, which means you've never
Starting point is 00:53:53 had to worry about there being a moment. Like what do we have? Gilmore's wrap around in game two of the second, I remember where I was for that against Cujo. We all do. Uh, actually in the boss room, I have a autographed picture of Doug Gilmore there's a red there's a burger joint near me I took a photo of it on on X I guess the other day let's call Twitter okay yeah and it was like the old-school Felix pod van poster yeah like and then a pride of the Leafs and all that stuff I was like why we see this Wendell picture that's in the studio well that's from 93 I know because of the patch he's that was the 92 93 centennial season of the Leafs and all that stuff. I was like, well, I haven't seen this Wendell picture that's in the studio. Well, that's from 93. I know because of the patch. He's that was the 92 93 centennial season of the Stanley Cup. Right. And he's got the C on there and
Starting point is 00:54:32 that's a cap before I was traded for. Yeah. Matt said, I think I told you this before, but he Wendell Clark is the answer to my favorite NHL trivia question. Okay. Why are you getting the answer? Did you? Yeah. I just said he said he was the but I told I think I told you this before He has the longest gap between NHL all-star appearances ever. That is a good one. That is a 86 and 99 Do you know in his rookie year? They had a Bob Stelick was telling this story There was a like an attempt a campaign to get him the Calder trophy in his rookie year Wendell Clark Just a fun fact. How many assists do you think Wendell Clark had in his rookie year, Wendell Clark. Just a fun fact. How many assists do you think Wendell Clark had in his rookie season?
Starting point is 00:55:08 40? 11. Oh my God. How many goals did he have? 30 something. Oh, okay. Well. Well, he didn't win the, he didn't win the Calder that year. No. Gary Souter won the Calder that year.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Probably fair. Who would go on to hurt Wayne Gretzky as I recall. But okay, let's look down to cover here. So what do you, what do you expect that the Maple Leafs will do in the, at the trade deadline this year? I don't know. I think it's like probably gonna get another defensive body and maybe a depth board and maybe someone gets removed from the roster to get that happen or they, they trade a prospect or something. But it's not gonna be very big. Unless something crazy happens to this team that opens up space. There's no space we've painted ourselves into a little quarter.
Starting point is 00:55:52 There's a lot of space next year but there isn't this year. Okay who's coming off the book next year? That's a lot of defensemen. The Leafs only have three defensemen on the books for next year. Riley, uh, Timmons, who I just wrote about today and uh, Jake McCabe. That's it. Everyone else is gone. Well, not, not gone, but everyone else is not under contract. Man, you know, the salary cap really, you know, I know every team has to work with the salary cap and that's the whole point of it all to get some parity or whatnot. But like when you think about the fact we have to say goodbye to a Zach Hyman because we can't even, uh, you know, shore up a guy like that. But then what you
Starting point is 00:56:27 end up doing is you end up with this, this top heavy team. Right. And how do you push that team forward built like this when you have like a few guys making a, whatever. Look, they could have done it. Like they've had money available and they've signed other guys like Michael bunting was a replacement to, right to Zach Hyman for a couple of years now it's Max Domi uh Tyler Tyler Bertuzzi got five and a half million for one year this year so there is money there it's just a matter of do they feel they can commit to these guys because Kadri and Hyman are a couple of guys i know Kadri had those two brain farts in a row in the playoffs how much do you hear now you wish you had a guy like Kadri for the playoffs? I think in Kadri and
Starting point is 00:57:04 Hyman are a couple guys I always look at and think, yeah, well, Leafs could use a player like that. Oh yeah, we had those guys and then we, we let them kind of go. Yeah. Okay. So how do you, when you put on your, uh, your, your goggles there and you look into the future, how do you see the leads doing that? I'm not going to hold you to this because there is no crystal this year. Yeah. It's hard for me to say only because I really do feel how they play after March 8th is going to be the true indicator. Like, um, I'm one of the only media people on record that picked Florida over Boston in that first round. It was correct. So that, and that's based on my, that's based on my thing that, that how you play up until now outside of
Starting point is 00:57:43 getting the playoff position is kind of bullshit. Like when the trade deadline ends and you don't have that over your head and your team is your team, how you play at that point on is a true reflection of what your team is. You can also put that forward the argument that it's all bullshit until the playoffs. I don't think that the team has peaked yet and I think that's a real positive for the Leafs. Like the style of play in the playoffs different than the style of play in the regular season. Yeah, and I think they have more of those guys. I think Tyler Bertuzzi fits the playoff like mentality.
Starting point is 00:58:14 And he has started scoring goals lately. But I don't know if Max Domi is a second line center right now above John Tavares is enough. Like they may need to shore up that position. So we'll see what they do there. Okay, look, I'm staying tuned. I'm going to be reading everything you write about this. And I'm a diehard day one earnter when I became aware of the Maple Leafs. I fell in love with this team. You know why? Because they play for the city I was born and raised in. That's literally the, unlike you and the Detroit Lions, I'm only a Lee fan because I was born and raised in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:58:46 I was also born and raised in Toronto. So there you go. We didn't have an NFL team for you to say goodbye. You know what? I don't understand. Maybe you can. Born in North York. Why shout out to North York? Well, now, now part of the mega city. So technically Toronto, right? Mel Lassman, uh, mega Mel shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Where am I going with this? Oh yeah. Okay. What I never understood was my buddy Mike, who was born and raised in the junction. Okay. Cause I went to school my first years in the
Starting point is 00:59:14 junction. Loved the Boston Bruins for no real good reason. We were all Lee fans and he decided, nah, my team's the Bruins. And to this day, he's a diehard Bruins fan. You're going to get more of that now. Like your kids and stuff. Oh my, I can tell you that my kids who love hockey, which for what, not because of the reason they're boys, for whatever reason, my boys love hockey and my girls don't seem to care about sports. I don't know why. I tried to make it the opposite of anything, but my boys love the Leafs. My boys love the Raptors. Okay. So then- My boys love the Leafs. My boys love the Raptors. Okay. So then boys love the Jays.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Then that's good. But like you're, you're seeing a lot of fans now because of social media and how they fall in love with sports differently are a lot of times more often fans of other teams and their local one for other reasons outside of it's just a hometown. Maybe when the playoffs arrive and it's time to set the table for the first round, maybe you should swing by after that's a great idea and we should do this again. I think that's a great but I might not have any more U2 DVDs for you when you come back. Is that okay? We'll make an exception in this case. Maybe you'll have a Blu-ray.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I'll give you a link. You can, you know, I'll give you a YouTube download. Yeah. You can download the MP3s and that brings us to the end of our 1,445th show. You can follow me on Twitter and blue sky. I'm at Toronto Mike and I know Mr. Alters on the app formerly known as Twitter. He's at Dalter D-Alter because I follow you and I'm gonna tag you and I drop this in 10 minutes Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. That's Palma pasta. That's recycle my electronics dot ca That's Raymond James, Canada. That's the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball club And Ridley funeral home. I can't wait to take a photo with David in a moment.
Starting point is 01:01:07 I'm wearing my brand new Toronto Maple Leafs baseball shirt. I like that shirt. Thank you. I think it looks cool too. And I just put up a new signage. I see it. Enjoy your book on the history of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
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