Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - David Marsden: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1565

Episode Date: October 16, 2024

In this 1565th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with David Marsden about losing his brother James Baby Scott, other CFNY personalities we've lost, discovering Chris Sheppard, hanging with John Lennon, co-founding NYtheSpirit.com and what's wrong with radio in 2024. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, The Advantaged Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada, The Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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Committing to our planet's future means properly recycling our electronics of the past. And Ridley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning to Toronto Mike's is David Marsden. David, how are you? Hi Mike. This is like incredible. It's been a long, long, long time since I've been here in your magnificent studios. Well, it's been almost 10 years because your visit, my friend, firstly,

when I took the photo with you, normally I do it after the recording, but I'm like, I saw your hair and I'm like, I need a photo with David. That's all real, right? This hair. That's unbelievable. Well, during COVID I couldn't get a, my stylist in Yorkville was closed. Nothing was open. Is it Gary Chowen? Huh? Who's your stylist?

Gary Chowen? No, I'm not. Okay, just checking in. So I couldn't get anything done so I just said, well, I'll just let it grow. And well, grow it did. And I haven't cut it since. Well I saw you on a Zoom, so let me set the table here. So you were here January, 2015, almost 10 years ago,

you have just set the record for the longest gap between appearances on Toronto money. So congratulations, David. Do you want me to read what I, uh, the description I wrote at the time when we dropped that 106th episode? I'll leave that up to you. You're the, you're the, you're the host. You're the boss. I'm the boss around here, David. But before we start, let me, I want to say something. Yeah, please. You know, I don't know. It was 10 years ago that I was here apparently and you'd probably been going for

a year or so before I came in or a matter of months, couple of years, but only 105 episodes before yours. Well, you know, the biggest thing today, and broadcasters know this, but the biggest thing today in the world, internationally, are called podcasts. And guess who started it? You.

Wow. You, Mr. Mike. You were the first one in and here you are now you've built up this incredible Following you've got all kinds of sponsors and people helping you with keep it going financially and You but you're the one who puts the energy and the creativity and all the other things that belong in a podcast So I give you a standing ovation. Well, thank you, David. And you know, many people inspired me,

but one of the people who inspired me without a doubt is you and what you did at CFNY and what you're doing at nythespirit.com. I mean, I mean this sincerely. I can, you know, there's a few people that were instrumental and kind of giving me that spark to do to do what I want to do here.

And I literally, if I look back 10 years, there was a documentary called, I Play What I Want. Do I have the right title? What's the title? I know it's something like that. I Play What I Want, something like that, right? Roger K. You're talking about the movie.

The documentary, yeah. I Play What I Am or something? Something like that. But bottom line is, you know, you, and we'll cover some of this ground, a lot of people, I'm going to read the description for episode 106 in a moment, but you have standards and if you don't like the narrow playlist at Chum FM, you walk away. If things change at CFNY and you no longer feel you can play what you want, you walk away. Like, you're a huge inspiration when it comes to Toronto Mic'd.

Well, I guess I haven't done it on purpose. It's just what I believe. I take it, you know, I started when I was like 14 or 15 is when I first started listening to the radio and I was just into people like Dick beyond the outer WLS in Chicago and cousin Bruce, he has a little W A B C in New York. And, and then when I was traveling in the South, when I lived in Arkansas, I would listen to John R do the all night show at a W L A C out of Nashville.

That's where I learned to love the blues by the way. WLAC out of Nashville. That's where I learned to love the blues, by the way. And I was a teenager when all that was happening and I was enthralled with, I was enthralled with the music because in those days the variety was very wide. But I was also enthralled with the things that those DJs had to say.

I remember John R. out the WLAC in Nashville. He always, his commercial was all about baby chicks. I, I like it by some baby chicks and you'd go to the chickens and I, in the South, I was quite acceptable. Uh, but he, uh, I never forgot about the baby chicks But so I mean I was always enthralled by that and that brought me to wherever I am Well where you are now is and why the spirit calm and we'll talk about that But I have to read this description from January 2015 fine in this 106th episode Mike chats with Broadcasting legend David Marsden about

his years as David Mickey. His time at Chum FM, the spirit of radio days at CF&Y, his years at Iceberg and The Rock and then of course we talked about NY the spirit.com which you're still active on to this very day. Tears were shed. David, you remember crying in my basement almost 10 years ago. No, I don't. But I probably, I can get quite emotional. I'm going to see what I can do today. But you're doing well. We did try to do this a few months ago and you had to postpone and I'm just checking in on your health here. Make sure David Marsden is healthy. You look good.

I had a little heart attack. I called it a heart problem. The hospital called it a heart attack. And that was back in March. Right. It was very freaky. May I tell a little quick story? Of course, no.

Tell a long story if you want. You're David Marsden, for goodness sake. Nine years ago, on the night before my birthday, my birthday's on March the second. On March the first, I was doing a show on nythespirit.com. Right. And I got a call that Don Burns had died. That was on March the first.

On March the second, my birthday, we were totally immersed in organizing his affairs and his funeral. This year, that was nine years ago. This year on March the first, I had a heart attack. And I thought back to the nine years ago, I thought this is way too freaky for me. If it had been the 70s,

I probably would have flown out the window, but, because I would have been stoned on something, but quail ludes or something. Don burns again, nine years past, but, um, my sincere condolences because he's, he's one, he's a gentleman. I would have loved to have had on Toronto. We never got him in a never got him in. We got him on humble and Fred. And I was when I produced that show, we got him on humble and Fred. There's someone else later.

I'll be talking to you about who we got on humble and Fred 10 years ago, but I never did get Don burns on Toronto. My, well, Don was quite the talker. He could talk. You could talk like I just did pipes. Yeah. Yeah. So we did connect again in March 2022 during COVID. During COVID. Yeah.

It was episode appropriately enough episode one oh two one. That's right. I remember that. Not a coincidence by the way, in this one thousand and twenty first episode, again, episode one oh two one, Mike dives deep into the ongoing history of one oh two point one CF and why with David Marsden Iver Hamilton Liz Janik Scott Turner May Potts Fred Patterson Leslie cross

Alan cross Captain Phil Evans, Danny Elwell humble Howard Glassman Robbie J Rob Johnston Bob Willett and Jay Brody some Some of those later cats, uh, were arrived after you left a 102.1, but we went almost four hours. And I like to think that that episode inspires in some regard. I like to think you can deflate my ego there if you like, but that inspired this documentary that's been produced and not yet available, but the CF and why doc. Yeah. You know, I must say, I listened to when you did that.

I, I, and many of the names you just mentioned are in, uh, the little yellow house movie. Uh, I really, Iver and Scott, I believe our exec producers on that movie. Yeah. Maybe Alan Cross too. I'm not sure, but I really was only there as a guest being interviewed, so I didn't have anything to do with the production. I spoke to the director on email about three weeks ago and asked him how it was going in terms of distribution.

What did you learn? I learned that they are marketing it to festivals across North America and that it will soon be released. That's all I know. I have seen a rough cut. What do you think of it? It's magnificent. Okay, good. Cause a lot of people I know are in this doc or at least were interviewed for this doc.

And I think my last update from either Emma Iver or Scott could have been both maybe actually now that I think about it, but was that they wanted to get this thing out into like to coincide with TIF, but I guess they couldn't get it into TIF 2024. So it's delayed a little bit, but I think there's a lot of us who are eager to, uh, to see you on the screen and this doc. Well, the thing about TIF that, and I mentioned this to the director, but the thing about TIF is that it is connected to another

broadcasting company. I feel like that got, oh, who is it? Rogers? I believe it's Bell. Well, Bell, I think disconnected. I think, I think Bell was in bed with TIF and then Bell said, peace out. And then I think Roger said, okay, we'll take that spot. The problem you get into there, of course, is that when you have another big broadcaster and there, are they going to want to promote a film about a radio station or another company? And that's the question that, and it's only a question.

I'm not making accusations. I'm only asking the question Well, we all look forward to finally seeing this thing very again glad you're here I'm gonna crack a beer David because you heard me mess up the intro. I've done this 1565 times I've never opened the show with my closing theme in my entire life But for some reason coming out of your voice and I'm hitting the. But for some reason, coming out of your voice and I'm hitting the button and for some reason I hit this button instead of that button. Have you ever in your illustrious radio career

hit the wrong button? Oh, David. You gotta have some fresh craft beer there. So, when you take a sip here, talk to me. I wanna hear a bit more about this heart attack. Like, did you, like what were you feeling that made you go to the hospital? It was strange.

I believe it was in the early morning. For me, early morning is 10, 11 a.m. And I was talking with, uh, the co-founder and business partner of NY the spirit.com. His name is Igor. He's a financial wizard. You guys a 50 50 share in this enterprise 50 share. Nice. And we were talking on the phone and I said to him, I said, you know, I'm having a bit of a chest pain. And he said,

call nine, my one smart. And I went, why would I do that? And he said, just call nine one one. He was getting upset. And can you hit the cough switch? You've been at it. I can, but yeah, sure. Sorry about that, okay That means you're gonna have to do an editor or something. I guess you you must not listen very often to Toronto Mike because I Like the authentic live on the floor. Okay coughs and all please continue. So anyway, I Said I really I said I don't know and he said just calling I'm on one and he hung up the phone

So I called 9-1-1. They were there within minutes, literally. And the next thing I knew, I was in an ambulance with sirens going. And I feel like this was, like this is the best excuse I've ever heard for not being able to make your Toronto mic to parents. But this was exactly,

cause I remember getting the email where you told me you spent your birthday or most of it in the hospital and we were kind of timing it so that you were here for your birthday. Like we did that on purpose. Yes. But here you are now, David, and you're feeling okay now. Well, I have to say they took me over to Western and it's part of the university health network. I have never been impressed like I have been with the university UHN. I think St. Joe's is part of that too. Uh, Princess Margaret, runner general, all those, all the ones along the strip there.

But by golly, the nurses, the doctors, the even the people who are sweeping the floors, everybody at UHN is dedicated to the hundreds and thousands of people who are in there. And it's just, wow, I was blown away by the efficiency and I, I have to attend once a week. I go once a week for exercises and stuff like that. Well, good to see you. You look like you look amazing. That hair,

it blows my mind. I can't wait till people check out our photo. And you know, that first appearance almost 10 years ago was so early in the run of Toronto mic'd that I didn't take pictures with the guest back then. I started at, I don't know when I started 130 or something like shortly thereafter, but now you're back. So I got my photo and that makes me a happy guy. So I have questions from listeners. I have questions, but the first comment I think will really, uh, launch us.

And as we discuss where people can hear you now, before we go backwards a little bit, Buffalo boy wrote me just to say, I want to let David Marsden know that nythespirit.com is awesome. Oh, so let the listeners know what is this? NY the spirit.com. And how can people be a part of this experience? That is so very nice. Thank you, Buffalo. Boy, I appreciate that. Uh, NY the spirit.com. Uh, we created it sitting around one afternoon talking about music and what's not

We created it sitting around one afternoon talking about music and what's not being done on radio. And the fact that a lot of people have moved away from old fashioned radio to this new thing called the internet and you've got your Spotify's, you know, and, but what was missing was the, the, the spirit of radio. That's why we call it NY the Spirit. It's 24 hours a day, we have six DJs. You can listen for 24 hours, 48 hours

and never hear the same song twice. Wow. The DJs are totally free form. You've mentioned some of their names, Ivor Hamilton of course, All Night Andre, myself, Scott Eagleson does a show from Vancouver, Earl Jive does a show from Southern California, and Rob Stewart who is part of a band called slave to the square wave and has produced and remixed a lot of great songs in the last few years. So it's all, but all of these, Danny Elwell was with us for a while. She had to go off and do her thing.

And so there's the six DJs and, um, juror my show, uh, I may start off with, uh, AC DC, but I'll end up with Louis Armstrong. Cause you play what you want. Yeah. But it goes, it, for me, it's all about texture. Right. It's all about, uh, some famous writers said for Marsden and it's always about the segue. Uh,

it's that Marsha McLuhan who is that? Marsha McLuhan said something else about Dave Mickey. And you mentioned his name a few minutes ago. I was out for a walk. I have to walk every day for 30 minutes because of this heart thing. But I was out for a walk the other day near where I live and I was in a, walking through a park and there was a guy sitting on a bench, a park bench and he looked exactly like a famous French clothing designer, men's clothing designer.

Like I couldn't remember the guy's name. I still can't. So I walked over to him and I said, you look exactly like that famous French clothing, men's clothing designer. And he said, you look exactly like Dave Mickey. Oh my God. How long has it been since you've been Dave Mickey? Well I made the switch when I went to Montreal. When I went to Montreal, Don Wall was the guy who hired me at CKGM AM.

And at the time, he hired me and then he said, oh, there's just one problem. And I said, what is that? And he said, we're not a rock station and Dave Mickey's name stands for rock. So you're gonna have to change your last name. And I thought about that for a minute and I don't know, I grew up in foster home, a wonderful foster home in Stratford, Ontario.

And I met my real mom on three different occasions and I thought, well, I'll just, maybe I'll just use her last name, but I did not spell it. Right. Cause her last name was Marston. That's correct. I said James Scott. Well let's since you brought this up, my condolences on the loss of your brother, James Baby Scott. So much loss since you were last here. Yeah, pretty incredible.

I wanted to start. I'm glad that we're here because for the record now, these are things I've learned since your appearance 10 years ago, but you mentioned you were in foster. So your birth mother was a Marston and you didn't know how to spell it. So you would assume the name David Marsden, but even Dave Mickey, right? Is like Mickey. So Dave Mickey is like M I C K I E. That's correct. But Mick, your last name was Mickey MC, and then capital K.

The foster family was M I C H I E. It was a Scottish Mickey. It was pronounced. Okay. So this is a fascinating history, but another kind of interesting tidbit is that, so your brother is James Baby Scott. Yes. We called him that only because we both had the same similar name at CFNY. And when I hired him to come into CFNY, he was the one who decided to call himself James Scott.

James Scott. Yeah. And I honestly don't know why. I think it's been, I honestly don't know why I think it's been I honestly don't know why He and I had a very long long telephone telephone conversation two days before he put on his wings and You know we had we had we had a very very intimate very close Conversation

We never we were half brothers, but we never hung out like brothers. I don't think either of us knew what a brother was. Right. Neither of us ever had a brother quote. Right. Uh, when, when I was living in the foster home,

uh, I met him once or twice when his mother Mildred, when my mother Mildred came to visit, but I was just a little kid. I don't have any recollection of that. And also interesting to note, and if I'm being too personal, let me know, but James Baby Scott was actually David, right? His name was David as well. Yeah. She named him David for reasons that neither of us know.

Interesting. And it's, it's just fascinating. You were such stay together on the air at 102.1. You're, you're both staples of this spirit of radio era at CFNY. Like, so how does your half brother, and I actually hate the word half brother, because I have, I have two kids who have a different mother than my other two kids. And if I ever hear half brother, I actually upset me because you're a brother. Okay. Don't don't minimize this. I fully understand that.

So passionate about that, David, but, but how does it come to be that your brother ends up on the air when your program director at say, why, like what's that story? Well, I don't know why he got into radio. Um, he grew up in London, Ontario, and um, whether he was inspired by what I was doing, uh, I do not know. We never discussed that. But he started doing radio in London, Ontario.

And I honestly don't remember where he was when I decided to bring him into CFNY. I mean, he was very good at what he did. He was much different than what I do, much different. And that was what's important. Be yourself, don't be somebody else. And I honestly, I do not remember how we managed to get together and I said, why don't you come and join?

And he did Drive Show at CF and why for years? Yes. Probably. I would think after a civitas came in is when I, when he brought it, when I brought him in prior to that, it was the Allen's and we were still in the little yellow house. Right. And then when civitas took over, the yellow house. Right. And then when civetage took over, we moved down to the offices on a Kennedy road. I think it was.

Yes. But as I said, we, we never, I mean, I, I'm, I'm thrilled to say that you have four children and that you treat them all the same. And that they treat each other as full brothers. I think that's magnificent. Uh, David and I never had that opportunity for whatever reason. Um, I think I was a bit of a secret, uh, in the earlier days. Uh, but you know, to this day, uh, I mean,

I spend at least an hour every day trying to figure out who my father might've been. Uh, it's a very hard, it's, you, you live with it. And this is important to you. Oh yes. Well, it's an identity thing. You know, I mean, boys are like their dad. At least that's what I've heard. I don't know if I'm like my dad. I don't know who he was.

Well, I don't know who your dad was, but I bet you he had great hair. It's funny you say that because when I'm doing a lot of searching on the internet, cause I'd like to find out who he is before I leave. And one of the things I look for is hair. Well, you know, it's a a unique identifier if you ask me. So again, I'm glad you cleared, cleared all that up. Just in my one more question, as a younger guy who wasn't listening as often as I should have

been, I was probably spending too much time at six 80 CFTR listening to top 40 when I should be on CF and why, but was it a known entity? Like, did people know that you and James Scott were brothers or was that like a secret? It wasn't a secret. We'd never hid from it, but we never talked about it. And as I said, we never really hung out together as, as brothers, we would visit each other. He'd come up to my place in Kaladin and uh, you know, he had his own children and he's a wonderful wife and um, we would visit, but we never,

it wasn't like Christmas morning we'd all get together. Right? No, I understand. I understand. Wasn't like that at all. Now I will say on this show we did a tribute when James baby Scott passed away. We did a tribute on this program. I did it with Mark wise block and I did, I did get a note from, uh, well I guess it's David Marston. I guess, but, but, but James Scott's daughter did reach out to say she loved it and we had a good chat. And uh, so,

no, he was a wonderful guy, but again, very totally different. Um, there was, we were never influenced by each other because we never spent time together. It's like parallel. Unlike the wonderful situation you have where you've got four kids and we all they rather not we, I don't live here, but they all live together in, you can live here, David. They all live together here in this live here David. They all live together here in this house and

So they get to Know each other 24 7 they get to know the highs the lows the in-betweens right and But David and I never did that it says I mean when I was 1617 I left Stratford and went south with the band with the rebels It's, you know, I, I mean, when I was 16, 17, I left Stratford and went south with the band, with the rebels. Well, the band, because a member of that band would go on to be in the band, right? Maybe share that fun fact. I think that's a fun fact that, that,

when I was about 14, excuse me, I'm going to clear my throat one more time. Sure. Go ahead. I have the cough button at the ready here. Go ahead. When I was about 14, I decided to start doing dances on Friday night in Stratford and I would rent the gymnasium at the Y and I would hold dances and people would pay a buck or whatever it was, 75 cents. And they'd come in and I'd play music.

And I'd often hire DJs from CKSL in London. Dick McFarland was one of the ones I brought in the most. Bill Brady was also one of them. Anyway, one day this guy came up to me and he said, you know, I've got this band, this little band and uh, we kind of like, could you let us play at one of your dances? And I said, yeah, sure. Okay. And I said, what's your name? And he said, Richard. And uh, later, sure. Okay. And I said, what's your name? And he said, Richard. And, uh, later, of course,

I learned his last name was manual. Wow. And Richard. And so I said, well, come on. So I put them on that stage one of the Friday nights and the crowd loved them. It was Stratford little 14, 15, 16 year old kids and live music back in the fifties. So it was still a pretty fairly exceptional thing. So anyway, we got to know each other and John Till was guitar player. John ended up with the, go ahead. You say it, Janice Chaplin.

Wow. And Kenny Kalmaski was the bass player. Kenny ended up with great speckled bird Ian and Sylvia. Jimmy Winkler was on drums and I don't believe he continued into the music industry and Doug Rhodes was a singer and he ended up being a school teacher. And Doug Rhodes was a singer and he ended up being a school teacher. So anyway, we got to know each other. And then one day Richard said, you know, why don't you become our manager? And I didn't know what a manager was, you know, I mean,

what did I know? So I said, sure, I'll be your manager. And, uh, and then one day I, sure, I'll be your manager. And then one day I got them booked in and opening the arena in Stratford, Ontario for Ronnie Hawkins. Wow, there you go. There you go. Yeah, and you want me to keep going? Well, you know what, I will say that

we lost him far too soon, only 42 years old when Richard passed away. And I'm wondering, like, did you maintain a relationship with him? Well, the last summer saw him, he came into the UNO awards to present a lifetime achievement to Ronnie. I had called, I had called Robbie in LA and I said, Robbie, would you come up and do the lifetime achievement award? And Robbie said, Robbie, would you come up and do the lifetime achievement award? And Robbie said, David, Beak, Richard's name was Beak,

by the way, Beak needs some help, call him. So he gave me the number, I called Richard, and he was in Woodstock, New York, living up there. And we arranged for him to come to Toronto and he was definitely in at that point in his life, he was having some trouble, addiction, trouble being one of the biggest. And, and uh, so, anyway, that was the last time we talked. And then the next thing I knew,

of course, he was in Florida where he hung himself. Richard was an extremely creative fellow. He was unbelievable on keyboards. I think in private life, he believed he was Ray Charles because he used to do Ray like nobody. I mean even with the Rebels, which his lovers felt backwards by the way, and even with the Rebels when we were all 14 and 15 year olds, when we went to Arkansas, Ronnie sent us to Arkansas

Arkansas, Ronnie sent us to Arkansas to work in his club called the Rockwood in Fayetteville. Right. Uh, John Till couldn't go because he was only 14 years old at the time. And so, uh, Garth Pico or picket, whichever you want, Garth stepped in as the guitar player. Garth was probably 16. I think I was 17 and Garth, Garth had no, but about the rebels because we used to play in, in Godridge every weekend at a road house there. But so off we went and, um, a quick,

do you want a quick story? I'll give you one quick story. Yeah, please. Because this is actually coming together. So you mentioned you're the king of the segues because this is going to lead into a clip I pulled for John Donahby. I'll explain it in a moment, but that ties perfectly with another question for you. And I'm eager to find out,

because now that we're in Arkansas, does Leavon Helm meet Richard? I'm dying to know what goes on here. Of course, Leavon, I mean all Robbie, all of them, I have a quick story. Robbie, Ronnie said to me one day, he says, I really like this little band you've got, because after we opened in Stratford,

he had us opening for him in Grand Bend, he had us opening for him in Port Dover. So we all got to know each other. And then one day day Ronnie said to me He said come down and meet with me and they were staying at the Ford Hotel remember that awful place and so I go to the Ford Hotel and I walk into the room where they are and Ronnie Hawkins is lying on one bed And Robbie Robertson is lying on the other bed. Right.

I'm 16 years old and none of them, neither of them were wearing any clothes. I didn't know what to do. Well, I knew where to look, but I did. So anyway, uh, one quick one quick story in Fayetteville. We would be the house band at Rockwood, which is Ronnie's club, Monday to Friday. And then on Saturday, Sunday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we would go out and play the frat houses all throughout the South. And we picked up a gig in Memphis, Tennessee.

So we left a Friday or Thursday night and we thought we'll go in. I think I remember the exact day, obviously, but, uh, we would drive over late at night into Memphis, stay overnight and then go and then go into the club. The next day, we're coming out of Arkansas. we're going in west Memphis, you cross a long bridge into Memphis City. And we're driving, Ronnie had given us a 1959 pure white four-door Cadillac to drive. And we've got a huge white trailer in behind us.

And we're crossing the bridge we're in in Memphis and all of a sudden we're surrounded by police cars they pull us over let me see I mean a bunch of kids driving a brand new caddy I mean right and it was a 59 it had those fins that went up to the ceiling. And, um, could we see your ownership please? Oops. I forgot it. It's back in Fayetteville. We were all six of us were arrested and put in the Memphis city jail. Gars was 15. So he went into juvenile the next morning,

cause I had told them what to do to get the ownership. The next morning, they take us out of the, we're all in our own little cells. They take us out of this ourselves and they take us into the front offices of the pole of the area. And one of the guys in a suit detective or whatever, he starts apologizing. Oh, we're so sorry boys. We didn't know. We didn't know you were from Canada. My goodness. We're still feeling so bad. And then they said, is there something that we can do to make this up for you? Right.

We're in Memphis, Tennessee. I look at the guys, they look at me and we kind of silently send each other a message. I turned to the guy in the suit, the detective, and I said, yeah, there's something you can do. And he said, what would that be? And I said, we want to go to Elvis's house. Wow. Wow. He said, hang on a minute. He goes away. He comes back in a minute. He hands me his card. And he said, give this card at the gate and Elvis's house at Graceland.

And of course in those days it was Elvis's house. He lived there. Yeah. Yeah. In the early sixties here. Yeah. And so off we go to Elvis's house and we show the card and those famous gates open up and we drive on in. Did you meet Elvis? Elvis was away shooting a movie. We spent about 15 minutes or so, I guess, talking to one of the guards at the gate and the guards all had uniforms and the badges said EP on them and Then we went on up to the house where we got to spend some time with Elvis's dad Oh, yeah, and he gave us the tour we went through the horses. There's horse area there and we went through the house

Everything Wow. This is a bunch of 16 and 16 year old kids from Stratford, Ontario, having a private tour of Alves' home. You've lived a life, Mr. Marsden, holy smokes. Now I mentioned John Donobie. Are you friends with John Donobie? Online we talk all the time. Okay, so John was scheduled to be here last week

and he had to postpone. But I had pulled in all these clips because we were going to cover some ground. He's already been here, but this was going to be sort of like you as we're going to catch up after many years. But one of the clips I pulled ties in nicely with the next question, but it also named you mentioned Ronnie Hawkins. And he's so we'll just listen to a bit of this. I won't play the whole thing.

Just about 30 seconds. Well, I'll tell you just a personal thing. Ronnie Hawkins said to mention to you that if you should ever come up here, he's got a nice secret hideaway for you. I wonder if he's still living in the same place. I had a great time last time. No, he sold that particular farm and he's living at another farm at this particular point. I'd certainly give him a call when I was up there. Yeah. Tell me, John, let's talk about walls and bridges for a moment. I understand the album took roughly six weeks to put together?

Yeah, six weeks in the studio, eight weeks from start to getting it into the shops in some of the... I know it's not out there yet, but it's nearly out, you know? And normally I'm not more than eight weeks in the studio at a time, you know? Because I find myself getting bored after eight weeks, you know? Are you one of those people that feel if you can't get it in the first few takes it's perhaps not worth it? time you know because I find myself getting bored after eight weeks. Are you one of those people that feel if you can't get it in the first few takes it's perhaps not worth it? I hate going over and over a song you know because you get to hate it, the musicians

get to hate it and it begins to sound stiff you know I like to catch myself and the musicians. Whose voice is that? Do you recognize that voice? Well, that's Mr. Lennon. That's Mr. Lennon. Yes. In John Donahby. By the way, John Donahby was at the last Waltz. Did you get a chance to go attend the last Waltz? I did not.

I know John really well, obviously, and he's a very warm and wonderful individual. But no, I did not. I was in Vancouver, I think, when the last Walt happened. Right. So now the question that came in from John Maxwell, he said, uh, I have a question for David Marsden. Please ask David if he encountered John Lennon back in 1969 during his bed in for peace in Montreal. I think it lines up with David Marsden's time on the radio in Montreal.

I'm very curious to know. I spent three days with John Lennon in the bedroom. Well, it was a sweet, um, it was a very interesting weekend. Let's put it that way. Uh, wow. We, um, I didn't live, I didn't stay overnight, but I did spend three days there. I met the likes of Timothy Leary, uh, who was the most interesting character, uh, Al,

um, somebody or other. He did a cartoon. I can't remember his last name anyway. Um, one of the smothers was there with smothers, probably Tommy, right? I feel like that's a Tommy thing. Um, and of course, Mr. Lenin was there and the first day I was there, uh, there was a DJ set up in the bedroom and he was doing his show from the bedroom in the bedroom and he was doing his show from the bedroom with the John Lennon peace in and every, every three or four minutes he would,

and, and, and Lenin was getting fed up. He was gone the next day. I can't remember his name, but it was C Fox a AM radio that didn't have the FM in those days. Right. But yes, I was at CK M radio that didn't have the FM in those days. Right. But yes, I was at CKGM at that time. Um, I have, I have quite a few thoughts on that weekend together with John Lennon and Yoko Ono. Well, did you want to share anything here? Uh,

any of those thoughts now as I'm capturing as many Marsden stories as I can. Like did you want to drop, do you want to share any, any, any of those stories with John Lenn? That's wild that you spent that much time with a beetle. Like that's incredible. That's incredible. It was a, it was a, yes, a positive weekend, but it was also a negative weekend. How was it a negative weekend?

Just with all due respect to John, um, he could occasionally be not the nicest guy in the world. Uh, I w I witnessed something that bothered me greatly. It was on the Sunday, I believe. that bothered me greatly. It was on the Sunday, I believe. And there were constantly people in and out all weekend long. It was a parade of people who had been invited

or for whatever reason. And they would come in and they would meet London and Yoko and they would get pictures and then they'd go away and then there'd be somebody else come in. And at one point, and I don't even know if I should tell this story, but apologies if I offend anybody. At one point there were three or maybe four chaps came in,

young gentlemen. But all of three, all four all three or four of them were blind. And they were brought in. And when they were taken to the foot of the Lenin Yoko bed, because they pretty much stayed in that bed all weekend. They didn't get up. Every now and then, there was a little kid there. They would get up and play around with the little kid. I don't know who a little kid there. They would get up and play around with the little kid. I don't know who she, who the little kid was.

Anyway, these three fellows, four fellows at the foot of John Lennon's bed, and they, all four of them, they were blind. So they built down on their knees, and they had their arms against the edge of the mattress. And Lenin, oh God, I'm really nervous about telling this story. I've never told this before. He got out of the bed and he went over, he was kind of on his knees, just crawling along on the mattress.

And he got quite close to the three or four of them. They could not see him. And he said, so, you all came to see John Lennon and you can't. And then he laughed like, and I thought, okay, I think he meant it as a joke, but to me it wasn't funny. But he had moments like that. Do I respect his talent? Oh, absolutely. Do I respect the fact that,

you know, he did many, many things with, with, with both the Beatles and himself, uh, and others, I respected very highly, but it was little incidents like that that happened throughout the weekend. I won't get into any more of them. That was one of the easier ones to tell. Well, David, they say, uh, never meet your heroes. Although I've met you and you're as advertised. So, David, they say never meet your heroes. Although I've met you and you're as advertised. So I was wondering about that right around. Well, I know I'm nobody's hero.

Well, thank you for sharing that story. I was braced. I was braced for where it was going. And I hope it wasn't. I mean, I maybe I built it up. I did brace myself and I was prepared for, for worse. So I think what that does do is you're like a little relieved that it was a bad joke. Yeah, it was a bad joke. And then, uh, you know,

we're London was a very nice guy generally. And I did manage to stay there for eight or nine, 10 hours each and every day for three days. And I met some wonderful people and it was an interesting weekend. Let's put it that way. I feel like that child might have been a Yoko Ono's daughter from not with John but from a previous relationship. I think it was a daughter at one point, she didn't like her ice cream cone. So she must get into the carpet.

I just fairly recently, this past summer, uh, sir, Jerry Levitan dropped by. And when sir Jerry was 14 years old, he interviewed John Lennon at the, uh, the King Eddie hotel. And he's got a great story. Actually. He tells it vividly. It's wonderful story about his time with John Lennon and he did talk about, uh, Yoko Ono's daughter being there. And, uh, that's probably, probably who you saw there. And if anyone wants more John Lennon stories, dig up that Jerry Levitan episode. It's quite something.

It's in the Toronto mic feed. The, the, the, it should be noted that was the King Eddie, but the, uh, the one I was at was in Montreal. Yes. You were absolutely the bed in Montreal. Now a question for David Marsden from STM. So this came in from STM. What that stands for. I could make up all kinds of stone temple, Mike. No, I don't know. Uh, I've been, I gotta read this line. This is important, David avid listener of your podcast for many years.

Okay. So that he pumps my tires because he knows if you do that, I will read the question. Thank you. Question for David Marsden. Please ask him to finally tell the story about David Bowie and Iggy Pop in the back of a limousine in Toronto, presumably in 1977 when they played at Seneca college. He has teased this tale in the past. Maybe he'll finally share it with you. Nick Charles. You may remember Nick Charles.

He used to do the overnight weekends at CFNY back in the day. When he wasn't doing the overnight weekends at CF and why back in the day when he wasn't doing the overnight weekends, he was a chauffeur driver. Right. And one of the people that he drove for an extended period of time was indeed David and Iggy. They were in Toronto together. I don't recall whether either of them was appearing in Toronto or they were just here because they used to travel the world and just enjoy the culture and so on. Right.

Uh, I will only say this and I only told this story because Nick told me, I think he felt comfortable telling me this story. Uh, that was a hint right there. Uh, uh, about David and Iggy, um, in the backseat of the limousine on several occasions, I spend a lot of, when, when we did the first police picnic, remember the police pic, I'm actually moderating a panel discussion with Gary Top on December 1st.

Tell Gary I said hi. He's got a new book coming out. You should be part of this panel discussion actually. Ivor's going to be there. Ivor's, Gary is great. Gary is a wonderful guy. Both Gary's actually. Yeah, Gary Cormie's invited. We just don't have confirmation. He'll be there.

He lives way out in the country somewhere. Right. Anyway, when they did the police picnic, um, CF and Y was the presentation station and I was given a golf cart to a ride around with. So I spent pretty much the entire afternoon riding around in my golf cart during interviews and so on. But the guy sitting beside me for the entire time was Iggy pop.

So we got, had some fun. The, the story about the two of them in the limo, I'll, you'll just have to leave that one to your imagination. Maybe your third appearance on Toronto. My gosh, I'll shake that one out of you. All right. Here's a note that came in from Mike Hannafin. Oh, hi, Mike. Mike is in British Columbia right now. He's listening. And this is what it's a very nice note from Mike. I want to read it in its entirety here. One of the most important days of my life was in November, 1983, when Fred Patterson brought me into

CFNY to meet David Marsden for an interview for a new sportscaster job being created in the spring of 1984. I had worked three years as a sportscaster at a tiny station in Stratford. And I was a sportscaster for a new sportscaster job being created in the spring of 1984. I had worked three years as a sportscaster at a tiny station in Stratford, but grew up listening to Marsden and listening to CF and why David didn't know me, but it must have gone well because after 30 minutes, he turned to Fred and said, I like this guy and my career path was changed forever.

David didn't know much about sports, but he did recognize passion for broadcasting and what would work for his radio station. I'm forever grateful. Mike Hannafin. Thank you, Mike Hannafin. That's very nice. The radio station you work for in Stratford was called CJCS and I tried to get hired there several times and they just said no, but thank you Mike Hannifin. I appreciate that. I really, really do. It means a lot and you've done very well.

The fact that you've done so well had nothing to do with that interview, by the way it had to do with Mike Hannifin. You are so right, but you helped open the door so he could be the most Mike Hanifin he could be. Well, he's a great talent and he's right. I don't know a lot about sports. No sports dog on this episode. I've recently become a bit of a fan of soccer. Well, that's a sport. Yeah, I become a bit of a fan of it. Watching it on TV and so on.

It's a beautiful game. Yes. I spoke to somebody the other day. I said, I might, I really would like to somehow or other get tickets for the upcoming world cup FIFA. Yeah, that'll be a, so be games at BMO field, but apparently, cause you know, money ruins everything. You can't call it BMO field during this, like it can't be called BMO field. There's another bank sponsor or something in FIFA land. So it'll be called like Toronto stadium or something like that. Well, maybe if we're really nice, they'll give us tickets.

Well, David Marsden, you should be able to just pick up the phone. I feel like somebody at MLSC will take you somebody at MLSC, a high ranking executive grew up loving the spirit of radio on CF and why and hearing David Marsden's voice, they would say, how many tickets do you need? Mr. Marsden? I would hope that might be true, but I don't take it for granted. Well, I do soon. Uh, cause I have some, I've been waiting almost 10 years David to get you back here and I have some important questions here and but I will soon be asking you

about the current state of Toronto radio and that's coming soon but maybe you could help me with like what I call like a missing link so yeah there is a documentary on the CF and why in the spirit of radio and that's coming but I have my own you know for the last you know 12 years I'm doing the math in my head. Yeah. Over 12 years on this show, I've been kind of putting together pieces and I'm wondering, would you take a moment to flesh out the backstory of how you found Chris Shepherd and how he was anointed? Um, like, like, like, like, I guess finding out how you found Chris Shepard and brought him into CF and Y and then if you have any idea Where the heck he is?

Because the last public appearance from Chris Shepard Was on I mentioned earlier, you know, I missed on burns and Toronto Mike Well, we got Chris Shepard on humble and Fred in 2014 Ten years ago and I haven't been able to find him since to get him on this program. But what can you tell us about the discovery of Chris Shepard and where you think he might be today? Before I do that, I want to make one correction because my good friend, my pal Roger King will not like me if I don't give the direct night.

I am what I play. And what were we calling it? I play what I want. I think you've got it. We both got it confused for the moment because it was just pure excitement. It was a great doc Roger and your segment was my favorite because you know, you're, you're David. You know, it still is it's on Vimeo and all those places. It's fantastic. Now, but your hair wasn't as long as it is now.

About Chris Shepard, Chris Sh Chris shepherd. Well, I was doing Saturday nights. Um, and my, my programming responsibilities have become greater and greater and greater. And it was just too much for me. I couldn't, I had to focus five days a week, and then I had to focus on the sixth day to do my radio show on CFNY on Saturday night. And so I decided that I had to leave the show in order to focus on the programming and the

building of the things and the building of the dance clubs a bit just for fun. And I thought maybe that would be cool. There's no DJ anywhere that I know of anywhere in the country playing dance music. So I went, I would take my Friday nights and I would go from club to club to club in Toronto listening to all these DJs and The one who caught my attention was playing at a little club over it Avenue Road and Davenport and I think it was called the blue something or other. I don't remember Anyway, there was a guy playing there and he caught my eye. He caught my attention. He caught my ear, everything. Right. And, uh,

I went up, I introduced myself to him and I said, could we have a meeting? And he said, sure. I'm Chris Shepard. We had a meeting. Uh, he came out to the radio station a couple of times and I decided that Chris Shepard was going to get that very, very important Saturday night, eight till midnight. And so we were all set and, um, for his first night there, I, I, I was at the station to make him feel comfortable. And, uh,

about an hour before the show, he came into my office. Now Chris at that time was just a young guy. I don't know how old he was, but he was just like this innocent young fella. And he sat down and I said, how you feel? And he said, David, I've, I don't know how to do radio. I've never done it before. And I thought, my thought was you should have told me this earlier, but I didn't, I didn't say it. I said, just be yourself.

Just do what you do with the same as what I saw that night in the club. May I ask a quick question? When you, when you saw him in the club, did he have at that point, did he have that vocal, uh, affectation? No. So when you said be yourself, well, that ended up persona that became himself. Okay. He just changed who himself was. I understand. I understand. I just found it interesting that he kind of sounded like he might be British maybe, but of course was not. No, it was all, it all developed over a period

of weeks slash months. And he became enormous. I mean, his popularity was like over the roof. His ratings, well, like what can I say? You know, the corner office loved me. I can tell you, I'm of an age where, you know, we would record a cassette, the Chris Shepard All Night Live airs there.

And it was a huge, we'd trade these cassettes in the schoolyard. Like this is what we did. This was our torrent network. Now my question, another question, a hard hitting questions here. So he hadn't yet introduced the Chris shepherd way of speaking, but was he Chris shepherd? Is Chris shepherd a stage name?

Chris shepherd is his real name as far as I know. I was sort of never led to believe otherwise. I think his checks were written to Chris shepherd. All right. Uh, it's a good name. The, the, the, the, the persona that he developed and the various accents. Interestingly enough, those developed while he was on, on the air. However, as he developed them, he would use them off air. So it wasn't like he was phony. It was,

that was him. I was what he believed as for his disappearance. Oh yeah. Like, so just again, uh, I'm a firm believer that if somebody doesn't want to be found, leave him alone. Okay. We all have the right to disappear. You know, I hope you don't, but if you wanted to disappear, I respect that. Okay. So if Chris Shepard, cause I get notes like, Oh, he's in Costa Rica or whatever. So if he's gone to Costa Rica and he's on, he's off the grid and he doesn't want to be found, then you know, enjoy your life. Mr. Shepherd. That's what I say. I'm not going to show up in Costa Rica and hunt them down and make a documentary searching

for shepherd. Okay. Despite how much money they throw at me. But what do you know, David Marsden about the whereabouts or the wellbeing of Chris Shepard in 2024? I noticed you've already got a title for the program. It's called searching for separate. Maybe searching for Shep. I'm still workshopping. I know that he has quote disappeared. That's pretty much all I'm going to say. Um, there were certain developments in his life when he left the DJ

business, uh, and he just decided that he wanted to be left alone. Interesting. So that's all I will say about it. Now I'm I have no way I know far less than you know. So I know nothing. I know nothing. How's that? But allegedly, now this is just possible. Is there any possibility he had issues with the mob or are these like urban legends that people

toss around like maybe that business of, you know, DJing? There was a lot of cash business sometimes with, with mafioso. And maybe he owes somebody the wrong person, the money, and he needed to disappear. Allegedly, I have no idea. Well, you want me to mute you? Okay. No, not at all.

I know nothing like that. Okay, okay. We'll leave it right there before we both end up with cement shoes. Okay, David, I don't want to sleep with the fishes, so I'm going to leave that right there. I know what happened. I don't think he's in any kind of situation like that. Okay. Well, that was the ending of my doc. So there he goes. That shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. They're proud sponsors of the show. David, again, you're looking great and it's okay if I say your age, right?

Are you, uh, you're 84 years old. Actually I'm 83. I'm young. I was given bad Intel. Okay. I was born in 41 41. Okay. And of course we know March 2nd, I was born in the city of Toronto. What hospital? Well, it's, it was then it was a little hospital over. It was became Wellesley general,

but before it was Wellesley general, I believe it was a home for unwed mothers or something like that. But not women's college hospital. No, no. And, uh, I came out and, the doctor, uh, looked at me and we're over there at Wellesley and he said, henceforth, this shall be known as the gay village.

I thought he was going to remark on your hair. I probably should. You might want to edit that out. No, I love it. Listen, I love it. Okay. I'm going to edit nothing else out. Okay. Now one fun fact about you, and then I'm going to thank a couple of sponsors and then there's some people that you worked with. I want to ask you about, we talked about your brother James baby Scott but I do want to point out the fact that I once

invited you back to kick out the jams which means we play and discuss your ten favorite songs of all time and you very politely told me that you don't believe in these lists oh no I don't know that's true so no no top ten list for David Marston it depends on what day it is it depends on what day it is. It depends on what hour it is. I mean, it's that it's that open. And I respect that. I respect that. I know on your website, you can go to a place like, I don't know, I can't remember the name of it. Maybe it says top 100 songs of all time or something. And it's a blank page.

Like it's like, it's like, you're letting the world know world know this is an impossible task and I will not participate in this. Alright I'm gonna again I'm so sorry for doing this my condolences but there's some people I want since you were here almost ten years ago a number of these CFNY personalities have as you would say put on their wings. Yes. Some of them I had the good fortune of chatting with some I never got to meet but I'm gonna just run down a list And hopefully you'd say a word or two about each of these individuals Jim Reid Jim was Jim a gym rather sorry

That was recent actually yes Jim and I had talked several times He used to listen to my shows on NY the spirit Yes. Uh, Jim and I had talked several times. Um, he used to listen to my shows on NY the spirit. Um, he was, he did mid days at CF and Y for the entire time I had it. He was gentle. He was human, he was real, and he was pretty fine on Arab talent for mid days. He was also an incredibly fine father. I believe his two sons are living out in British Columbia now, I'm not sure. Um, when he left us, uh, I,

I believe I had a nice chat by email with his wife and he and I had talked quite a bit. Well, not quite a bit, but we had talked before he put on his wings. I knew he had great taste in content because not only would he listen to NY the spirit.com, but he was an avid listener of this very podcast. And I had many a note from Jim Reed and never got to meet him in person, but I also had a nice chat with his wife upon his passing. When I spoke about it on this program and another gentleman I wish I had on

this program, I'm going to stop you for a minute cause I want to talk one quick, yeah, please. Yeah, please. I was sitting in my office. Jim was on the air. I had my system going, my speakers, and the entire newsroom was in a complete and absolute flurry. They didn't know what to do. It was the day that the spaceship went down. Challenger,

Challenger. Everybody in the building was going crazy. I'm listening to Jim Reed talk about it. And he goes into a song and the song was called watch them die live on TV, which I believe is by the box. And I'm sitting there and I'm thinking, no, God, no, that wouldn't be the one to pick. But there was nothing I could do at that point.

He can't rush in and take it off. Cause then it becomes obvious. Right. Um, he was, a genuine human being with a lot of emotion and love. Absolutely. Peter Goodwin. That's interesting. Peter Good and I I went to a funeral Mr.. Eben off who owned the radio stations Peter was working at Eben off broadcasting and

I went to a Mr.. Mr.. Eben off funeral and Liz Janik was there after Revanov's funeral. And Liz Janik was there, and a few others, quite a few others actually. And at one point I went over and I talked to Liz, we had a little chat and so on and so forth.

And there were four or five in the group with Liz, and we chatted. And I can't remember exactly how this happened but it was sort of like this. Liz said, have you said hi to Peter? Who of course was Liz's husband and Peter said correctly, I don't think he remembers who I am. Cause I did not. And at that point, we went off to, Peter and I sat down at the table. This was after the funeral service.

And we had a lovely chat. Peter and Liz, I believe they met at CF and why I believe so they fell in love and they had wonderful, I believe son. Uh, Peter was, well, if I'm looking for adjectives, humble, genuine and very much in love with Liz. Brad McNally. Oh my goodness. Right. McNally was at CF and why even in the little yellow house when,

when I first arrived, he was there. I remember at one point we were all at, we were all at some kind of an event and we're at his home, I think at an event and he announced that he said, I'm moving, I'm, I'm leaving CF and why, and I'm moving. And I said, where are you going? And his wife said, I'm going back home. His wife was from Australia.

Right. But then Brad's well, but before I go there, I'm going to Sweden and he became a pretty big deal at Swedish broadcasting. Yeah. He programmed like 12 stations. He became a very big deal in Scandinavian broadcasting and then off they went to Australia where he also became a very big deal in Scandinavian broadcasting. And then off they went to Australia where he also became a very big deal in Australia radio and Perth. Yeah. And uh, when we opened up NY the spirit.com,

I invited him to join us and join us. He did. And he did shows there for a year or so, I think. And then he felt quite ill, but he would send his shows in from Australia. And by then he had developed a little bit of an accent and he was jolly.

He was jolly. He drove a yellow Mustang, which he was very proud of. He sold that Mustang to a, one of the music directors, Eddie Valacat, who bought the car but didn't have a driver's license. So I don't think it ever got, I don't think it ever got driven. I don't really know. Um, he was quirky and I, I use that adjective very kindly. He was unusual. He was different.

He was dynamic. He was a person that it was fun to be with, but at the same time, when it was time to do the eclectic spirit, he became a very, very serious guy. And the eclectic spirit program tested more listeners' ears and took people places they never thought they could possibly go. That's probably not. Do you remember the song working on the radio? Of course I still play it. I still play it on my show. The way, what came about there is that the Allen's had lost the station and

um, the station was home it was being held by the CRTC and there were six or seven applicants trying to buy it. And uh, I started a petition to get, make sure that the CRTC would give the station to somebody who would maintain the spirit of radio alternative format that we had developed and we had literally thousands and thousands of names kids were setting up in their high school and kids would sign these petitions and Brad unbeknownst to me decided that

he had to do something too. And that's when he pulled together at a teenage head and all these other people and they created the song working on the radio. Yeah, absolutely. And I just recently saw discussions about that song, I think maybe between Scott Turner and Iver Hamilton. And I wrote about it on my blog, torontomike.com. But yes, not to bury the leader. Yeah.

But Brad McNally, Brad McNally and Jim Bird, I believe are the, the writers. They were the instigators. Iver was very involved. But the funny thing was I didn't know anything about that. I was busy doing on the air petitions, please send letters, please. Blah, blah, blah. Your call to arms, which people can hear about in episode 106. When I played, I think that was one of the tears I got. Absolutely.

Was Nash the slash involved in recording that song? I think so, but I can't be a positive. Nash was a very good friend of mine, but I'm pretty sure he was involved. I know a couple of the teenage heads were involved, um, working on the radio. I, as I said, I don't play it often, but I still play it from time to time on my show. I will shout out Colin Brunton who is booked and will be on Toronto Mike making his debut soon. He's been trying to raise money for a Nash the Slash documentary. That is correct. So we'll

be talking more about Nash the Slash of Colin Brunton very soon. And I was introduced to Colin because I spent a lot of time every month for episodes of Toast. I have Rob Pruse in the studio and I want to say hi to Rob because of course you mentioned the police picnic. The Spoons played the police picnic and of course no CF and Y, no spoons and Pruse was the keyboardist during their heyday. Yes. Well, I saw your pictures actually of you and Rob. Every month.

And he's still doing some mixing of other music. Yes. Church of trees and things and works with Carol Pope on different projects. That is correct. Yeah. You know what? Big, I'm a big Pruce head over here. So he's, he's no Marsden, but he's right up there, right up there.

When I was in New York, just prior to COVID, I went to see Abba, which of course, uh, Rob was a music director. Yes. That's exactly what he was a, was up to back then. What a good night it was. And after the event, Robin and his wife and myself and Igor, we all got together and had a late night dinner in, uh, after the show and they're both just the sweetest people you've ever imagined. Amazing. I'm going to,

I'm going to ask Bruce about that dinner next time he's over in November. We had a lovely evening. Uh, it was around midnight, of course, cause the show couldn't get out till 10 30 or so. And then they have costume change and whatnot, but it was so exciting to sit in the audience on Broadway. One of the biggest shows of ever known to man or woman called ABBA or what was it called? I think it was the music of ABBA. What it was called. So mama Mia, mama Mia. That's the one.

Mama Mia looked down there and there in the pit me. Yeah. That's the one. Look down there and there in the pit was my pal and my associate and my friend, Rob Bruce. That was pretty exciting. Love that so much. Let me check in with you here. How are you? Like I'm okay to go a little longer. I know I'm open. And you sure? Oh my goodness. Okay. Let me tap your head if you need a bio break because I'm killing you here. Okay. Just a little more. Is that what you call them?

No, that was a nice way to say it. Like I was going to say, don't ask him if he has to take a piss. Okay. It's David Morris. If I put him on a 10 minute track, you'll know why. Although, you know, I'd be honored if you want to pee on the rug.

That's fine with me here. A few more names I would like to shout out. Absolutely. Quickly here. Palma pasta. Do you enjoy Italian food David? Is that on the list of Marsden dinners? I have to tell you the truth. You tell me the truth. I don't want you to bullshit me. You said Palma pasta but I thought we were still doing eulogies. Well we are. I'm taking a break. I think the Proust was a great moment. We took, we, you know, Proust still with us looking great. Yeah, that's not a eulogy. So we're taking, not a eulogy.

No shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Hopefully for a long, long time. We're coming back to the eulogies. Absolutely. I'm just going to let you know, I have a lasagna in my freezer for you from Paul McHale. Oh, I see. If you want it, I would love to give it to you. And you already got the beer.

Is that what's in here? Well, that's the empty box. And then I have it in my freezer. So let's take it home. May I take it home? Of course, no, it's frozen solid. You'd break your teeth. So you're being on and that's speaker, Palma pasta, I need to tell the listenership that on November 30th at noon and David, you're invited to this too at Palm is kitchen. We're all going to get together and record a live session, festive session.

It's going to be amazing. Where is this now? So this is in Mississauga. Boy, it looks great. Look. Oh, I'm serious. It's in my freezer. I know no BS on this program, David. I'm going to give you a lasagna from Palma Pasta. You got the beer. That's speaker there. That's from Minaris because you're going to listen to season. Where are we at now? My goodness gracious.

We're at season seven. Wow. Al Grego went to Winnipeg and he visited a woman named Katrina Tessier. She owns a Scout Coffee and Community and she shares her journey of opening this unique Winnipeg cafe, providing a welcoming space for parents to relax while their children play. So shout out to season seven of Yes We Are Open open the award winning podcast from Maneras. You can hear that and more. You can listen to nythesspirit.com on that wireless speaker there. That's yours. I've opened the box because I was speaking to police picnic. It's called box and right. I think it's a shadow to wireless speaker.

Naturally bold sound. That's right up your alley. I should do the commercial. Well, I loved your, uh, house of lords. I was going to say I could do it like the house of lords. Your name came up recently. Katie Lord was on the program and she worked at house of lords and she shouted out Paul Burford.

Oh, Paul and Paul and I still talk quite frequently, mostly on Facebook. Actually we were wishing each other thanks. Happy Thanksgiving over the past weekend. Well we know when I think of house of Lords, I think of your, uh, your ad spots there for years, long time. And uh, we miss house of Lords, but it got me there. So you got, this is quite an instrument. This Monaris thing, Monaris they do like basically when you pay with a credit card

At a store or something it might be Monaris that handles that exchange there But they're good people Al Grego went to Winnipeg and brought some great stories back for us. It's wireless speakers I'm really impressed with this. Well, if you think that's impressive wait To see the Ridley funeral home measuring tape right there. I already checked that I Did I and I was trying to with all due respect to Ridley funeral home. I was trying to understand the connection between Ridley and Measuring a measuring tape. Well as it so happens Jones, who is the funeral director there, he'll be here tomorrow because we record his podcast, life's undertaken.

I'll ask him for the record. I'll say David Marsden wants to know, and we'll get an answer tomorrow. Well, you know, I have to say this too. I, I stand tall worth a thank you to all of those of you who, Palmas, Boxan, Great Lakes Brewery, I stand tall with all of you for supporting this particular podcast that's worldwide and one of the first. Thank you David Marsden. Thank you Mike and thanks to your sponsors.

Mutual admiration society, I love it. Thanks to the, I really appreciate I mean I understand the whole concept of sponsors we don't have sponsors at NY only because it's a subscription service right you're like HBO yeah you know you can well there might be some big announcements coming very soon but I can't tell you I'll see I that that drives me nuts when somebody says, I have something big to tell you, but I can't tell you now. I'm like, why did you tell me you had something big to tell me?

Now I want to know. I recorded a gentleman, an FOTM named JD. I was on his podcast yesterday and it was about the Tragically Hip. Oh, yes. And I asked him today, I messaged JD and I said, I said hey when does this drop because I recorded it with him yesterday And I'm excited to hear it in the wild He goes oh, I'm gonna start this show in January, and I don't know when yours will drop and I was thinking oh my good Is that how other people work like your show David Marsden before you get home?

This show will be in the posted. Yeah before you get home. So this is that's how I roll and others don't necessarily Pivot that quickly here. Okay. But I'm going to pivot. I'm going to shout out recyclemyelectronics.ca because David, if you have a room or a drawer full of old cables or old electronics, don't throw that in the garbage because those chemicals end up in our landfill. Go to recyclemyelectronics.ca put in your

poster code and find out where you can drop them off to be properly recycled. All right. Now time to get serious. A few more names. I have a lot of extra things like that. You need to go to recyclemyelectronics.ca. I'm excited about this wireless speaker. I got to tell you. It was worth the trip to New Toronto here. Worth the trip. I didn't have all that swag when you were here the first time.

No you didn't. I'm excited to go home. I'll see you later. I think Great Lakes must have heard the David Marsden episode and that's when they reached out and said, hey can we sponsor you? But here's the case, no one for other things of course, great musician and a big rock band, but Skip Prokop. Yes. Was he a sales, like what was Skip doing at CFNY? Skip had a show. Skip had become quite religious. had a show, uh, skip had become quite religious and I had known skip all those years with, with, with the others at lighthouse. Yes. And, uh, we were sitting around one day and he said, I've got an idea for a show.

And I said, well, what, what, what is it? And he said, he said, I'd like to do gospel music. And he said, he said, I'd like to do gospel music. And you know, I lived in the South long enough to know what gospel music really is. Right. I said, Skip, are we talking real gospel music or are we talking hymns, which is it? Because there's a very big difference.

Well, we discussed that for a while and we kind of reached the conclusion that if you're going to do it, it has to be the real gospel. The stuff that warms your heart, the stuff that gives you goosebumps, goosebumps, whatever those are called. Goose bumps. Yeah. And, um, so he, um, he he, um, he started doing that show on Sunday nights. He was, I think he was either right before or right after eclectic spirit with Brad McNally. And, um, I was surprised it did. It was,

it was quite popular. Um, and my memory is not all that good sometimes, but I think he was still doing that show when I left and went to Vancouver. What happened after that in the, in the mess that took place? I, I don't know what happened to skip, but I was sorry when skip, but put on his wings, you know, he was a, he was a really fine gentleman. I don't know. I didn't know him. We didn't hang out. Let's put it that way. And I'm not even sure you overlapped with this gentleman. I don't know. I didn't know him. We didn't hang out. Let's put it that way. And I'm not even sure you overlapped with this gentleman.

I did get this gentleman on Toronto Mike, but he shows up, I think after you go to Vancouver, but did you ever work with hell Harbor? I never worked with hell. I think we may have talked once or twice, but I did not know him as a person. There is an episode of his real name was Doug Barron. once or twice, but I did not know him as a person. There is an episode of his real name was Doug Barron. And there's a real episode of Toronto Mike that paid tribute to Hal Harbor in which Danny Elwell was my guest, Joe Faluna and Danny Elwell.

And this is my segue to the current state of Toronto, unless I miss somebody and it's possible, I did miss somebody, but I do, I am curious if you've heard any of Danny Elwell's show that's now airing on Indie 88. I have not. I have read about it on Facebook. Um, and I think I've seen one of her playlists. I'm not sure, but, uh, Danny was with NY the spirit for about a year and she's tremendously

talented. Uh, she worked of course at CF and why, but that was after my period of time. Yeah. But I know Reiner Schwartz, I think was her, uh, Reiner Schwartz was the one who brought her in. They've worked together for, before CKFM. Yeah. And. Yeah and Danny's a wonderful person. She and I chatted when she was with NA, NY rather I got to know her. And I'm happy that she's doing the Sunday nights

at NY the Spirit, at Indy 88, sorry guys. Well listen, this mention of 88.1 gives me a chance to ask David Marsden again You are the man one of the co-founders of NY the spirit calm and that's where you would I'm sure you would tell us That's where the spirit of radio lives in 2024 online at NY the spirit calm Is there any DNA left? I'm gonna quote Mark wise blood who I brought up earlier But he says I keep looking at the edge playlist, and that's CF and why everybody, the edge playlist to see retro curveballs, but nope,

these aren't jams that were uniquely CF and why there's selections from any given alternative music stream, any overlap with the actual legacy is coincidental. Would you, I don't know if you listened or if you even tune in at a curiosity, but what do you think of the current state of 102.1 and then the, the, the newer station in a similar vein, 88.1? I don't, I haven't not listened. However, when Scott Turner was doing Sunday afternoons, this goes back 10, 12 years ago. Love that show.

Scott was doing, and he was doing the real CFNY formula. And he invited me on to that show. I went in, Danny was there, Ivor was there, May Potts was there, they were all there to say hi. Iver was there. May Pots was there. They were all there to say hi. It was quite fantastic. And I spent the afternoon with Scott at the end of the show. Um, we all decided to go,

there's a restaurant in that building where the, where the edge is located. On the grain, maybe it faces the, where the edges located. On the grain maybe? I don't remember. It faces the lake, right? Yeah. Yeah. We went down there to have a little afternoon snack. Dave Farrow, who at that time was the program director GM,

I think, he also came in, it was quite fun. Everybody came in and so we went to the lunch and we had a wonderful chit chat and carried on It was quite fun. Everybody came in. And so we went to the lunch and, uh, we had a wonderful chit chat and carried on. And at the end of the lunch, uh, I was, I excused myself and I was headed out and Dave Farrow was sitting at the table and he hollered at me and he said, I'm going to call you next week. It might be time for us to get together again.

And, um, I knew what that meant. And I said, I'm looking forward to that meeting. And, uh, unfortunately never came to pass. Something or someone got in the way. But you're not naming names. No, I can't because I don't know. That's, that's unfortunate. Every time you think maybe they're making the right move, some, some corporate entity. I figure a corporate entity got away. Let's put it that way. But,

and it wasn't, it wasn't long after that that Dave was terminated. And then not long after that, Spirit of Radio Sundays was terminated. Yes. It did. And I think the problem is that the people, the programmers, they tend to look at the American magazines to see what's popular.

And so they think, wow, we got to play some eighties music and let's go. And they go to the American magazine. And of course, the American magazine doesn't know who death passion mode is. Uh, they don't know any of that music. They sure don't know Nova heart. No, they don't know that. And so it doesn't get played. And that was, it was funny that we're having this conversation because that was the original stimulus. I will call it the,

the original conversation that I was having with co-founder Igor Luke Keene is that all this music being missed and it was so popular. It was so monstrous and it still is that pasture mode and all the rest are still touring. Right. And that was how we kind of said, why don't we do something? And that was how NY the spirit.com was created. So in your opinion, is there hope for radio or can you stick a fork in it? Terrestrial radio is done.

There's hope for it, but it's not going to be what it used to be. It's going to be something else. It's, it's, it's kind of, it's, it's, it's kind of like when I'm watching the TV news at noon hour or six o'clock or whatever, the weather person comes on, they do the weather. Well, I have the weather in my pocket and on your, on your wrist. Right. But here's the thing that bothers me and I don't understand it.

The weather person will say, it's a beautiful day. Get outside. Well, it's television. That's not good for ratings. Why are you telling everybody to go outside? They should be saying, stay tuned to the news because something really good is coming up. Right now. That's funny. I just remembered in the 80s, my buddy had a boombox. That's what we'll now call it. I think we called it something else back in the day, but he had a boom box that had a little black and white TV in it. And it was he was it was the most amazing thing because of the antenna you bring in, let's say, CBLT, the CBC affiliate or whatever. And there it is on the now I'm sure it drain those double V's or whatever,

but my goodness gracious, having a TV in the boom box, it broke our brains back in the, in the eighties. But generally I think radio, I think the first thing radio has to do is to stop calling itself radio. That's an old fashioned word. That's a word. I don't know how old your children. My oldest is 22. Okay don't know. How old are your children? My oldest is 22. Okay. So have you got any in the 15? Yeah. Well, there's 22 20 and then we go down to 10 and eight. So nobody in the teenagers, I'm without a teenager right now. You just made me realize.

The 20 or 22s and they won't say this to you because why your daddy, but yeah, radio is old fashioned. Right. That was grandma's way of listening. Right. That was, dare I say dad, a hundred percent. And so they've got to start. You know what we call NY the spirit.com? What ice cream shop? It's definitely not radio. It's on the internet, but I call it the ice cream shop because we, we have good things and you can lick them in there.

Oh, delicious. Uh, but I think radio, it has to reinvent itself in the same way that in the 40s it was, it was all about plays and news. And in the fifties it reinvented itself to become where you heard the top 40 songs of the day. Right. And then in the, in the late sixties along came this thing called FM. Oh my God. You could, you could listen to the Beatles and it was like, Oh my goodness, you can hear all the instruments coming out of two different speakers and well,

let's do some acid, you know? And so, but they has to reinvent itself. And I don't think that the people currently in charge know how to do that. I don't, I wouldn't know how to do it either. I'm an old man. Well, I mean the great disruptor, which you embraced with iceberg and now with NY the spirit.com. So you were sort of on the bleeding edge of this the whole time. You know, you can give me the props. I can give them right back to you.

But the great disruptor of course is the internet. Yes. You know, back, you know, so I'm okay. Iceberg was first of its kind yeah yeah it really was and and what a machine it was I mean we had a huge we had 12 different 12 different radio I won't call them radio because I hate that word but we had 12 different channels we had ill noise which was rap and hip-hop and all that sort of thing. We had groove, which was of course, Don burns and headley, right? Uh, doing dance.

We had DJ trance too cool for radio, which was a Rob Bolton. Uh, we had, we had prime time, which was Gary Cormier doing live stuff 24 seven. Wow. And full video. And this was like, what year was this? It was like the year 2000, 1999 or something late nineties. Yeah. So iceberg was unfortunately, and the listenership showed that is it was way, way too far ahead of itself.

Bleeding edge. I call that. You're just a head of the, you're too early. Yes. And, uh, plagues us visionaries, David. Sometimes we're too early. And now, you know, we have things such as Spotify, but Spotify is just a jukebox. Right. In the truest sense of the word. Uh, and I think it's fine. And, and that's what the young people are finding the new music. And I applaud anything that allows young people to find new music.

As for NY the spirit.com, we have a new music show hosted by James and you'll hear stuff. All the music is heat place. You won't hear on new music on radio, right? Or on radio. Right. Or on TV. Uh, but, as a, I mean, Iver Hamilton, we know how far he goes. Ivers is he's still a punk rocker in his own mind and him, that's where his music's at. Uh,

and each of the DJs, music's at. And each of the DJs, they bring forth their own ears, their own loves. And, and then when the DJs aren't on the stream is going 24 seven and we literally have thousands and thousands, thousands of songs, much of it from the eighties. And why the spirit.com everybody, if you're looking for that. and why wouldn't you be a couple of quick hits on the way out of taking so much of your time. But a fun fact that we did talk about this your first visit, but a fun fact is

that you replaced Alex Trebek as the host of music hop. I just brought up the CBC television affiliate here in this market, CBLT. But since you were here, Alex has, uh, taken his, what's your phrase? He takes his wings. Put on his wings. I like the way you say that. Uh, but, uh, that is a fun fact that he replaced Alex Trebek as the host of music hop. Well, actually for the first year, Alex and I co-hosted the show and called music hop and it was a full night.

It went, it was Monday through Friday, five nights and each night it came from a different city. On Thursday it came from Toronto and one of the guys who formed the guess who was the original host, Chad Allen was the original host out of Winnipeg. Shaking all over. I can't remember who was hosting Vancouver. Anyway, Alex and I shared the show for the first year. We co-hosted together.

We got to know each other. Uh, we'd spent two or three days a week together. Wow. And, uh, cause with rehearsals and all the rest of that sort of thing. And then when the second season started the second year, Alex fell down with appendicitis and he ended up in the hospital and I took the show temporarily as myself, just me hosting Alex decided that he didn't want to come back and I took the show over and I carried on for whatever four or five more years.

Alex was a very warm individual. Uh, not a, not, not a music person like myself would have been, uh, he was just a guy who liked being on TV. Uh, you know, the thing about game shows, cause Alex was one of the most successful game show hosts ever. The thing about game show hosts, and this is why some make it and some don't, a good game show host knows one thing.

And that one thing is the show is not about him or her. The show is about the game. That's why Pat, what's his name lasted for? Say Jack. Say Jack lasted for 30 years. I'm not sure Seacrest will Now since we brought up Alex Trebek that makes me think of Jeopardy and I'm wondering two things one did you watch Jeopardy I Watch Jeopardy still you still watch it. Okay, Ken Jennings is doing an okay job Ken Jennings is doing because he understands

It's about the show not him And he's very good at it. Uh, it has become a little different over the past year or two. They're simplifying it a little. Are they dumbing it down? Cause they're, that's what I mean. That's a kiss of death for a show like, uh, my feeling is that, and they're holding these silly contests where they're the top five and then go on for months. Yeah. And I think the reason is,

and this is only just me thinking out loud, they aren't getting enough people who are enrolling as contestants or who are good enough to be contestants. So they've invented this new thing where, oh yeah, the champions, and there'll be five of them, and they'll compete for like six months. You might be right. You might be right. Absolutely, Matea Roach did a great job, and she's a local.

Well, now she lives here, or they live here, sorry. They live here now. Now, Jeopardy, one last question, because I'm thinking of a CF and Y personality who appeared on Jeopardy, one last question, because I'm thinking of a CF and Y personality who appeared on Jeopardy. You know, it wasn't Pety or Geets, okay? Yeah, so Pety and Geets, your morning show, and you worked with them at Chem FM, and we covered all that in episode 106.

So go to 106, you get the whole Pety and Geets story. It's funny, because I work with the sports guy, Fred Patterson, who came up earlier when Mike Hanifin said in his note, the news guy was Mike Stafford. Do you have any contact with Mike Stafford these days? Mike, the closest we get is on Facebook and or some other social media or I'm aware of what's going on with him. Uh, we chat once in a while. I send him a birthday present,

a birthday greetings, that kind of thing. Uh, Mike, it was an extremely brilliant news person. He deserves to be a news director in a radio or a TV station somewhere, somehow. Uh, he went on jeopardy. I remember it well, cause we were in Kennedy road and I don't think he won. No, he did not win. Um, but he got a question wrong. He, he, he kind of kicks himself to this.

Cause I should point out since he was let go by chorus and that, that whole situation, he's been in this basement twice since then. So we do get periodic updates, but the answer to the question that he got wrong, I believe was, was Kennedy, it was JFK and he kicked himself because he worked on Kennedy road. So, so he got, he should have got it. He didn't get it.

And he's probably still haunted by that. But, uh, so you're still Facebook friends of Mike and I do periodically reach out myself to see how Mike is doing. He's had better days. He's had, he's been going through a bit of a, but I think he's, what I'm seeing now is I am seeing the return of Mike Stafford.

Oh. I'm seeing the return of the guy who believes in himself, the guy who has someplace to be. And as I said, he, he belongs in a newsroom somewhere in this country. We hope Mike Stafford gets his mojo back. And I look forward to getting him back in this basement for an update. He's got a lot of, a lot of fans out there. All right. I'm now, this is really the last thing. And then if you have anything else you want to say otherwise I got to tell you David, I didn't think we

could top your first appearance, but this matched it. And that's one of my favorite episodes of all time. So thank you for being here. You're too kind. You're much too kind. I've been told that David. Okay. I'm working on it. Okay. I'm going to be more of a dink. Okay. But if I take us back to 1973, would you be willing to share a little, uh, of the story of how you helped pink Floyd come to Toronto and, uh, you know, Michael Coles and then maybe share that story. You and dark side of the moon.

I started playing pink Floyd originally when I was at to show my family in Montreal and they were not, you know, they were extremely progressive. And if you hadn't done a hit or two of acid, you didn't bother watching the listing to them. Uh, And then when I came to Toronto to Chum FM and one night I was doing my show and the record guy, the record promo guy, suddenly was in, opened the door and he was in the studio and the Chum FM were huge, by the way, these massive things. He walks in and there was a sofa there and he sits down. And undoing my music and we're kinda talking.

He said, oh, by the way, I've got something for you. Oh, what's that? And he pulls out the album. And he said, dark side of the moon. And I went, what's dark side of the moon? He said, it's gonna be the new release from Pink Floyd. And it's not coming out for two or three weeks.

But I'm giving it to you now. He didn't say you can't play it, so whatever was playing on the air finished, and I had set it up on the third turntable, and I opened the microphone, introduced for the first time Dark Side of the Moon and it was the first time it had ever been played anywhere in the world, even the UK didn't have it. Wow.

And so I had about a two to three week jump on it. That night I was hearing it as everyone else was hearing it, I was hearing it for the very first time and I was advised by the promo guy it tracks which means there's no space between right songs And he said it tracks. So if you want to let it go So I let the full side go I was my mind was boggled.

I then, when it was over, I opened my mic and did a little talk and while I was talking, I flipped it over, put the needle up, cued it, and said, here's side two. And I let it roll. And when we got to the end of that, I said, you know, I don't remember exactly what I said, obviously.

Sometimes I'll remember my own name, but I said, you know, something like this. You know, that was pretty good. I may have even used the F word, I don't know. Said, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to play it again. And I played it for its full self a second time that night. And then Pink Floyd went on sale.

They soon after that, it was about the time two or three weeks later, when the album was due to come out that they decided to announce the pink flood was going to tour. So I started to promote that the promoters, uh, CPI, Michael Cole and David Walensky, they weren't sure. Uh, although they were pretty brilliant gentlemen when it came to music. I started to promote it on my show and it, and in those days the tickets went on sale on a Saturday morning at 10 a.m.

You couldn't phone in, you had to line up to buy them. And it was at a place called BAS, I used to call it BAS and I was at a place called BAS, B-A-S-S, I used to call it BAS. And you'd go to the BAS and there were seven or eight, I don't know how many, BAS offices throughout the city of Toronto. Right. And people would line up for,

they'd line up for two days in advance. Saturday morning they went on sale at 10 o'clock. I'm at home, I was living on Gloucester at the time, and it's around 11, 1130, Saturday morning. I'm still in bed sleeping, because I was doing Saturday evenings even then, or it was Wednesday nights those days. And my phone rings. Hello? Hi David, it's Michael. Hi Michael, what's up?

He said, the show sold out. I said, Michael, it's only 11. only 1139 me it went on sale at 10. He said yes, the show is sold out 45 minutes to sell out that show at Maple Leaf Gardens. I Don't remember the year that that happened 73 But I have one last question here So when you play Dark side of the moon twice, and this is before the world premiere, okay. You beat the world premiere because no one told you,

you couldn't play it. And you know, I believe we, Roger King says, uh, play what you want or whatnot, but capital records, uh, did they give you like a wrist slap or did they, did you hear from capital? I have no recollection of that. I was, I was chatting with Michael back when they opened the Pink Floyd exhibition at the C and E grounds back a year or so ago. Right, right, right. And Michael hinted and I have no idea if this is true or not.

Michael hinted because I said in my, I was hosting the press conference for that is what I was doing. And before the press conference, we were sitting at a table and someone said, Oh, Marston, you got to do the world premiere of dark side of the moon. I said, yeah, I did. And Michael hinted, you know, we set that up. Don't you David? You know, we set that up, don't you, David? That's the revisionist history.

I don't know if it was what he was teasing. I don't know if he was making fun. But no, I never heard from the label. The promo guy, he brought it in. It was like, I've got a gift for you. And he showed it. Wow. So I.

But you know, if the promo guy gives you an album and doesn't explicitly say like, this is embargoed until this date, you can't play it, then you're, you know, you did what I would do. You got to play that. Yeah, you know, I'm not too much of a rebel, but I have a little bit of rebel in me. A little bit of a rebel streak.

Here's a throwback here as we say goodbye. So that you too can put a brown paper bag in your hip pocket. You gotta see what I got in it for tomorrow night. Boy, I got some good things. So pass it on, bring along your friends and join me six o'clock tomorrow night I'll be at your house. I hope you're home from David Marsden See you in Y of M 102.1, Toronto. Good night everybody Have yourself a good one. Won't you Brad is next to take care of business?

next to take care of business. Dave, good night to you. I hope we see each other again soon. And thanks again for in-person round two. But of course you were on episode 1021, which I think people should just go straight there and hear the origin story of CFNY and more about that great station you were at the helm of for so many years.

Thanks again for this. Thank you. I really appreciate it. But where did you get that last tape? Spiritofradio.ca. No, it's actually Edmythespirit.com. Well that's yours. There's a fan site out there with the... Oh yeah. That's where they got some archives. And it's a good one. It's a good one. You can steal the odd... borrow the odd sound check there. Thank you Mike. This means a lot to me. I really do appreciate it. And that brings us to the end of our 1565th show. 1565 episodes but none better than this one right here. I tell you that.

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