Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Dr. Cliff Redford Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1695

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

In this 1695th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Dr. Cliff Redford returns to kick out the jams and share some exciting news about Dr. Cliff - Worldwide Vet with Mike. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Yes We Are Open, Nick Ainis and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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Welcome back Dr. Cliff. Thanks for having me, man. I love kicking out the jams. Beautiful day out there. And I thought we'd crack open a fresh can of Great Lakes beer to kick things off. And then we'll dive right into the first jam and then we'll catch up along the way. Sound good? Best way to start a long weekend. Okay yeah. Here we go. On the mic. Three, two, okay Dr. Cliff you've got the Canuck Pale Ale. It's called okay. Irish crickets. I'm gonna steal that from you there. Okay I'm

drinking my Sunnyside Session IPA, which is my beer of summer, and you've got the Canuck Pale Ale. How does it taste? Let's give it a try. Very good, eh? Very good, eh? Tastes excellent, eh? Thank you. Well, man, I'm so excited to have you back. One quick question before I press play on Jam 1. Are you ready, Dr. Cliff, to kick out the Jams? I think so. This is my first time. So yeah, let's give it a shot. Hello darkness my old friend I've come to talk with you again

Because a vision softly creeping Left its seeds while I was sleeping And the vision that was planted in my brain Still remains within the sound of silence Of silence In restless dreams I walked alone In narrow streets of cobblestone Neath the halo of a street lamp I turned my collar to the cold and damp When my eyes were stained by the sound of silence And in the naked light I saw Ten thousand people maybe more

People talking without speaking People hearing without listening People writing songs That voices never share And no one dare Disturb the sun No one dare disturb the sound of silence Alright, Dr. Cliff, tell us why this disturbed cover of The Sound of Silence. Yeah, I made it on my list. You asked me for my favorite 10, which is tough to do. So I

pulled all these songs out of my inspiration playlist. I've slowly added to this playlist, occasionally pulled songs from it after I got tired of them. But and it's, it's literally the music I listened to in the shower pretty much every morning and it gets me, it gets me ready for the day and chase those dreams. This song, it just gives me goosebumps, man. This guy's voice is so haunting in a beautiful way. And I do like it better than the original. So Simon and Garfunkel, of course, have the original. And this is the, for those who are unaware of Disturbed, this is the Down with the Sickness guy. Yeah.

Down with the Sickness was the big one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it's, to have Disturbed do a Simon and Garfunkel, you know, they hear about it and they'll be like, oh no. It was probably like when Michael Keaton was casted as Batman, everyone thought, no, Mr. Mom? And then it ended up working out brilliantly possibly the best Batman so I like this arrangement I like this

cover and yeah disturbed you know sometimes we forget about disturbed but I'm glad you're bringing this one to the table also it's worth mentioning that rushes spirit of radio borrows like it's it borrows a phrase in there the words of the prophet were written on the studio wall walls that's a taken from this Simon and Garfunkel classic beautiful beautiful beautiful and beautiful how how's your beautiful life going I'm gonna tell the listenership the last time dr. Cliff was here to make his Toronto Mike debut was way back not that actually it was September 2024 so do you look back at that with

fondness, your Toronto Mike debut in September 2024? It was beautiful. It was amazing. The lasagna afterwards was excellent. Do you want another one? Yes, please. Hey, Palma Pasta sent over another large lasagna. I love it. I love it. I love it. Um, it was a good time. Yeah, I absolutely Enjoyed it and that's why I reached out to you and said could I please come on again? I got something I want to talk and then I said hey Would you kick out the jams with me because I love kicking out the jams with a returning guest, right? Like so let me read the description so people can go to episode 1550 one five five zero if they want to hear like the eight

is out of dr cliff redford who well let me read the description so in this 1550th episode of toronto mic mike chats with veterinarian dr cliff redford and we found out no relation to robert redford i remember we found that out. Okay, who travels across the world and works side by side with local staff at community based organizations that carry out animal animal rescues, adoptions, advocacy and wildlife conservation. We talked for I don't know an hour 17. One of the main subjects we covered was a documentary I had the privilege of watching back then called Dr. Cliff Worldwide Vet. Mm-hmm. It was finishing up its film festival at the Toronto Nollywood International Film Festival, which Nollywood is the Hollywood based out of Nairobi, which for people not in the industry,

they don't know anything about, but it's actually quite a large film industry and TNIFF was our last film festival We won a best best documentary there congrats. Thank you, which and it's a CSA qualifying Film festival so because we won an award we could now at that point, we could put our film in for a possible CSA nomination. That's a Canadian Screen Award. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. It used to be the Gemini. Yeah. There were, they merged a couple. There were the Gemini's and the, what was the other one? I don't know. Like they had a TV one and a movie one and they merged these things. Really? Yeah. I thought they were all gemini's. I know when they're merging them,

they wanted to call them the John Candies. People were literally accepting their award saying, we should change this, this should be called a candy. So as we, we're going to learn a lot about you as we learn about your jams and why you choose them. And I love how we start. So I'm actually going to get to the second jam now. And then I'm going to see if you have an exciting

announcement to make for the FOTM listening regarding to the second jam now. And then I'm going to see if you have an exciting announcement to make for the FOTM listening regarding Dr. Cliff worldwide vet. Like I understand a little birdie tells me there's some breaking news on this front. I got something to say. You got something to say. And while I'm playing this jam, I'll find out what those awards were called. Okay. I'm going to go to the, uh, I'm going to go to your worldwide vet. I'm going to go to the worldwide web and find out what those awards were called. Okay, I'm gonna go to the I'm gonna go to the your worldwide vet I'm gonna go to the World Wide Web and find out what the hell these things were called. So you jam number two The Devil's house in the shape of the chapel Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I saw you wave when the shadows were growing You're talking straight but your colours are showing Burn me, try to hurt me

Try to get me when my head was turning You're overrated by some colorful story You're crazy baby cause I've never had to tell I'm singing songs about love and glory Oh, oh, oh, you're going bang, bang, bang You show me to the ground But you can't bring me down Bang, bang, bang You try to knock me out No, you can't bring me down

It's just my natural reaction When I hear the floor Billy Idol! That's right. Can't break me down. Why this jam Dr. Cliff? Man, I am. This is going to be a fun podcast listening to these songs. We got our beer. It is a Friday of a long weekend, which I actually forgot till you mentioned it. I don't have to work Monday. Is that what you're telling me?

You do not have to work Monday. Do you work Monday? No, my clinic's closed. I'm working tomorrow, but I got Sunday, Monday off. A rare two-day weekend. Okay. How's the clinic going? And remind us where it is. We're super busy. Wellington Vet Hospital is in the North end of Mark weekend. Okay. How's the clinic going and remind us where it is? We're super busy. Wellington vet hospitals in the north end of Markham Yeah, well, I don't tell my friends there. I believe there's a listener named Joe Louis. Well, that's what we call Joe Louis to yo Yeah, you know that cake we follow each other on Instagram. How do we know each other? So Joe Louis who comes to tm Alex events. I'm gonna invite you to one in a moment. Please.

June 26th. I hope you're not worldwide vetting. Okay. But Joe Louis tells me you're his vet. Really? What does he got? I think he's- A dog? He's going to have to message me. I think he's got- His real name is John. I think he's got like a big black curly doodly cross like a big 70 80 pounder I'm surprised he didn't say hey dr. Cliff I heard you I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure that's that's who we're talking about okay well more Joe Louie

cast later you know it's funny so he I had an event last weekend at Christie Pitts tmlx 18 and Joe Louie sent Carlo his good buddy like as a proxy although Carlo would have come anyway. Carlo's amazing. Hello Carlo. But Carlo tells me Joe Louis couldn't be there. He was killing turkeys like hunting turkeys. How do you feel? I need to know you as an animal lover, a man who saves the lives of animals across this world. How do you feel about for sport just shooting turkeys? Well, is he eating them afterwards? I'm gonna we're gonna find out we're gonna have to assume so I am a I am a weird version of a vegetarian in that I will eat hunted animals

My vegetarianism is that I don't agree with factory farming and of course, there's some great You know grass-fed grass raised free-range cattle farms, whatnot, but I don't have time to research. So I'm just against the massive factory farming. So if he's eating these turkeys, you're fine with it. Yeah, yeah, that's, I mean, look, the turkey was gonna die a much worse death as long as he's a good shot.

But yeah, so I don't, I get it. I don't hunt myself, I couldn't do that, but I don't, I, I get it. I don't hunt myself. I couldn't do that, but, uh, but I understand it and it doesn't bother me. Okay. Well, does the Dr. Cliff seal of approval? I feel better about it. And before I find out why you love that pretty mo I don't know how recent that

song is, but I'm a Billy Idol guy from like the early eighties. So I have this era of Billy Idol that I just loved and that song I heard there, which sounds great in the headphones and I'm not even familiar with it. Yes, I think it's a more modern song. It is so he I got into Billy Idol I mean, I liked him when I was you know back in the 80s as well but I really got into when I read his autobiography about a decade ago dancing with myself and He was that was the name of the title. I wasn't actually dancing with myself No, that's a great name for a really idol biopsy. And first of all, I did not realize this guy was key in creating the punk scene back in England. Gen X. Gen X. Gen X. Like he was key key. And then he kind of went pop-ish when he

came here. But when he wrote this book, he also came out with a new album called Kings and Queens of the Underground. And that's what this is part of. And the album is amazing. It actually talks a lot about what is talked about in the book about the ghosts of his past and the relationships he destroyed. Like he's very, very honest. And then I found out just today, he's playing here in Toronto next week.

Are you going? I'm gonna see if there's tickets. The Amphitheater, I mean the Budweiser stage? I don't know. I just going to see if there's the amputee. I mean, the Budweiser stage. I don't know. I just, I just kind of Googled it and him and Joan Jett, Joan Jett's opening forum. And so if anyone's out there in the Toronto Mike world that wants to go, cause I don't think my wife's going to go with me. And you know, honestly, I'd go with you if it's at, if it's at Budweiser stage and you and I are on the lawns drinking a beer taking in some Billy Idol. I'd go. We'll figure it out. I'll check it out.

That's where South Etobicoke and North Markham come together here. Hey, I got to tell you the two awards that were merged to make the Canadian Screen Awards. Okay. So the names are so similar. That's why we get it mixed up. The old award for television was called the Gemini's. Okay. So Gemini awards for television, but for movies, which I guess is what your documentary would be up for, it's called the Genie awards and they took the Gemini and the Genies, mashed them up, and now you have the Canadian Screen Awards. So ours would actually be more... TV? Gemini.

Okay. So we created this documentary. I've been chasing a dream of creating a TV show and pitching to broadcasters. It's been a good 12 or 13 years, which is why I have this inspiration playlist. I kid you not. There are, there are, it is a tough business to get into. I've heard a lot of nos, a lot of doors slammed in my face, metaphorically speaking. And I was, I've been ready to give up many, many times.

And some of these songs, including Billy Idol's can't break me down. Yeah. Keep me going. So although our film is a film and it's a documentary, we created it as a proof of concept and eventually to be potentially a pilot episode. Okay. Now it's your call. I kind of feel like diving into jam three and then getting the big announcement about

the documentary or do you want to make it right now? What is jam three? Well, it's a spoiler alert. Okay. Oh yeah. Okay. Sorry. Listen, you know, people are excited to hear it.

Oh, there that's Dr. Clips. You can't just tell the title before I'm so upset with you I'm gonna delete this file. Okay, just kidding. There you go I'm gonna play it and then and then more on your love of music and then you're gonna make a big announcement because People loved your first episode dr. Cliff like people just loved hearing about the doc and the fact that somebody could literally pause this episode of Toronto Mike and then watch the documentary in its entirety The same doc we talked about in September. I think that's thrilling and if that's true It's gonna blow my mind. We're gonna find out right after

Well, you know, I love this song Well, you know what? Love this song. This is a real middle finger to the man type of song. I love giving the middle finger to the man. Your front door, how you gonna come? With your hands on your head, on the trigger of your gun When the law break in, how you gonna go? Shut down on the pavement, or waiting in death row You can crush us, you can bruise us, but you'll have to answer soon Oh, answer soon. Oh, that's a good one. That money feels good, and your life, you like it well.

But surely a time will come, as in heaven, I was in hell. Alright, Dr. Cliff, the guns of Brixton. Is this on your inspiration? Is this like when the man gets in your way, you shoot him dead like they're a turkey in your Joe Louis? Yeah, pretty much, or it's more of a go down fighting. You're going to have to kill me before I give up. I put this on my inspiration playlist just because of the opening couple of lines. When they kick in your front door, how are you gonna come with your hands on your head

or on the trigger of your gun? Yes. Woo-wee. Now, I think this is based about a blue-coll collar riot back in the day, back in England I think. There was the riots of Brixton and the police were kicking in people's doors and dragging the troublemakers out. So I believe, I think that's the history of it. It just gets my shoulders a little taller.

I just stand up a little bit taller when I hear this song. And this is on, it's on London Calling, which is a cassette I had in my Walkman for months when I was in high school. Like there was literally a month, and again, this came out in 79, it wasn't in my Walkman in 79. But when I discovered this album, I couldn't take it out of my Walkman.

Like there was a long period of time where I just listened to it at London Calling. Beautiful. What a great album that was. Okay, I'm now verifying your story here. Sounds good to me, man. Sounds good to me. Let's make the big announcement before we get back to the jams because people wanna know how can they watch your excellent documentary, Dr. Cliff Worldwide Vet.

It gives me goosebumps. Yeah, and then that's the big announcement is you guys can watch it. We created this documentary and it's about my daughter and I going to India during Diwali, the Festival of Lights in 2022. And it's an animal rescue father-daughter adventure travel story. And it has won many, many awards.

I had to build an extra shelf for them for film festivals. Where are you keeping all those awards? I got a nice little shelf specifically for them for film festivals. Where are you keeping all those awards? I got a nice little shelf specifically for them, but I've left a space open for my genie slash Gemini, now a CSA, let's hope. So we ended up getting picked up by TVO. Wow! TVO bought our film and tomorrow evening,

Saturday, May 17th on TVO, Channel 2 in Ontario, it's gonna be airing at 8 p.m. So everyone can check it out. Now you can also go to their TVO docs YouTube channel. What can I tell you that it's been there all day? Like, so, okay, I know that's a secret, but I've seen it. They, they, for reasons I don't understand, I think YouTube is a little bit more important for them than their channel

So they they they premiered it on their YouTube channel and their TV o.org Website today 9 a.m. Yeah, it's probably already got a couple of dozen views but For me, I want to see it on the little screen We got a little watch party yet a brewery in Markham. You mean the big screen, right? Like what did you're watching on a little screen? Oh, cause it's not a movie theater.

Cause it's not a movie theater. Yeah. Yeah. You got to call it the, how big is it? I thought you were maybe like on a, like a, like a 12 inch black and white TV. With little rabbit ears and the whole bit, right? That's how I watched the Maple Leafs sweep the Blackhawks in 86. It was a best of five. I'm confused.

The Maple Leafs did what? But we didn't get out of the second round. We went seven games against the Blues and bowed out. So don't worry. Don't get excited. How do you think they're going to do tonight? So I'm doing a thing lately. I think I've always naturally done it.

But now I recognize I do it called wish casting. So when can I got this? I live in a, my family's full of doubters. Okay. And I'm always like, ah, Leafs in seven, don't worry about it. Okay. But do I truly, so that's my wish casting because I want to see the Leafs win this series in seven. But after the last two games, particularly the six one debacle that I watched the other day when I actually had all four of my kids together for the first time Since I think early February like I had all four kids together. We're watching this game the gutless performance the Disappointing this this very important home playoff game in the second round that effort Now put a fork in this core man. This team's not doing

anything. Like I think they're going to play really, really well tonight. I don't know if they're going to win though. Like, like I think they're going to play really well, but Florida's Florida's a good team. So yeah. So what I think happens when, and again, I don't know, I don't have a crystal ball. Maybe we win this series in seven and my wish casting comes true But when we lose tonight What next like is Marner gone? There's rumors. He'll be gone. What do you do with the Shanna plan? Does he stay in in he's had a couple of you know, he's had a long. What is that decade now? I don't know lost track, but clearly this core Austin Matthews as captain this core can't deliver when it matters. What a great regular season hockey team we've built. Yeah like now I'm not enough of a

fan anymore to be able to know anything that you're talking about. Like I can name some of the players. Here's what you know it was 2-2 we won the first two games we lose the second two games. No I know that. Yeah yeah but I'm setting the table here Dr. Cliff okay I you know I'm not gonna win any Canadian screen awards but I'm setting the table to say in this crucial game five when you're the home team you're down six nothing when superstar Nick Robertson scores your lone goal okay and Nylanders had a nice playoffs actually I've kind of liked it and but Marner with these blind spininarama passes that

result in a in a odd man rush for the Panthers and and Austin who doesn't seem to score when it matters in the second round, he seems to just just like, did he play? You know, Tavares isn't getting any younger. He had to give up a C for Austin. Like this core that this team has built doesn't seem to have that grit, that ability to rise to meet the occasion. Like these captains we always loved, like these Sidney Crosby's and these Mark Messier's and these guys when the game's on the line,

you got to win at home game five, these guys elevate their game. Our guys disappear. Yeah. I think they need to fire whoever their sports psychology expert is. Cause clearly, like clearly, they need to fire whoever their sports psychology expert is because clearly you like clearly here's a here's a here's an interesting question at least I think it's interesting I'll take this exact team yeah and stick them in Florida

let's say stick them in a in a market that doesn't have the pressure and the history and the crazy fans who are going to be loving you and then hating you, do they like is is part of the reason they're choking, which is what's happening, is this pressure and this this and I'm not giving them any look they make a lot of money and and they were very excited to work to live in Toronto and work in Toronto. But like, is this part of this Toronto curse because it is Toronto, because of the history that has been... Well, the Habs never had a problem with this. They've won it. You know, in the 1990s, they won the Stanley Cup. Yeah, they had Patrick. You're alive for that. They had Patrick Waugh. Patrick Waugh, right. And Wolzen... That last game was just so disheartening, like to see that gutless They had Patrick. Well, right. Right. And walls and our wall.

That last game was just so disheartening, like to see that gutless effort when it mattered. I played goalie for quite a few years. I mean, it was basically just University beer league and whatnot, but you can be a really good goalie. And when you see your team play like that in front of you, it just, it just sets your nerves off and then you're not stopping anything. And when I went to three, nothing, my oldest son is 23. And then I said, Hey, James, I said, do you see this particular team putting four goals

by Bobrovsky tonight? He's like, Nope, it's like, okay, this is over, put a fork in it. And next year, you know, at six, nothing. And then Nick Robertson comes through to just to get on this to end the shutout streak. All right, my friend, you've got me upset now if this leaves us out, okay? Okay, so you know what? I'd rather talk about, and just gonna spend a moment

because I have a gift for you. This book is the history of Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. I love it. They play at Christie Pits. And I had a wicked awesome interview chat with Rob Butler yesterday. and Rob Butler manages the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team. And we talked about how he's using this woman from Japan. Her name is Ayami Sato. She's the first woman to pitch against professional men baseball

players in the country of Canada. She's getting the start on Sunday, 2pm start. She pitched two innings last Sunday. I was there for that. I had my event at Christie Pitts and she went six up, six down. Like she was lights out. And we'll see what she brings on Sunday. But this isn't, I find this an intriguing story. Like this woman is pitching against professional men, baseball players, and we'll see how long her shutout streak lasts. So if you're around Sunday, 2 PM, you'll find me at Christie pits, snow, the informer himself is going to throw out the first pitch. That's amazing. You're just, you're just, I've got a, I've got a, uh,

this sort of reminds me of a story. Then there was a, a female hockey goalie, men on real men on the home first. Who did she play for? But she, Tampa Bay Lightning, Tampa Bay Lightning. Tampa Bay Lightning. She played in my little league against me. And... Mind blow right there. She played in my little league against me and then she showed up in my grade 12 law class textbook because she had set a precedent. She was originally not allowed to play in my league. And it set the precedent that if there is not an equal female or girls team, you have to let them on.

And I remember the hockey moms were so obsessed, she's got to have her own bathroom and this is not fair and she's getting special treatment. And if part of it is being part of the team it was just like it was BS but there you go so there's a rule now my 11 year old plays hockey at Mimico Arena house league hockey and they have a rule now hockey Canada has a rule no nudity in the dressing rooms like you can't not that I ever not that the kids ever really got naked in the dressing room I you can't not that I ever not that the kids ever really got naked in the dressing room I don't even think I've ever seen it and my my 23 year old played at George Bell Arena for like a decade

But it's just against the rules like there is no nudity allowed in the he's probably a good rule actually for these For these kids playing hockey, but no nudity allowed in the dressing room Yeah, I mean, they're not really showering anyways So it's like they could just strip down to their tighty-whities and then I guess that's a rule just to help the the female players feel a bit more comfortable or whatever it's probably a good rule but because we don't have an equivalent girls league option available at Mimico so we definitely have girls playing with the

guys in the the house league. So, but if it wasn't all guys league would they have the same rule? I think it's just a hawk. It's a hawk because you know when you think nowadays this way they just don't have to argue. They don't have to worry about it. Do a test and stuff if you're gonna be like a hockey parent. Like you go through this test and rules and I don't know what they think I'm gonna do. I'm like half, you know what I mean? But we all go through this I guess to make sure you don't yell at a ref or whatever Or throw something at the opposing coach or whatever, but part of this is just a rule So I'm sure it's just like we're not gonna worry about I don't know that that no nudity allowed

No nudity in the in the TMBS studio, you can get naked. I don't care. I appreciate it. If you want to. The video's going, I think I'll save your viewers. Hey, any new ink? Any new inks in September? No, because I generally get ink on my trips. And although I've been to the Arctic North since September,

I went up to a Callowit in January. You should have gotten a tattoo. I was thinking about it and originally I asked to have some of the traditional Inuit tattoo technique and they said, no, that's not for you southerners. You're not allowed to have it. Oh, that's like an appropriation or something. Yeah, I guess.

I can see that. I get it, I understand. You know, there was a trend in the, because you and I are similar vintage, but there's a trend in the 90s where people were getting like Asian characters tattooed on their body. This was a big thing in the 90s where people were getting like Asian characters tattooed on their body. This is a big thing in the 90s. It means water. I know. My sister-in-law has one, for example, and I always wonder like, oh, like at the time everybody was kind of doing

it. You go to EdgeFest, you got your Asian characters. You're not quite sure what they tattooed on you, but it means whatever it means. peace or love or something like that. But in 2025, uh, not cool anymore. Is that not cool? I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, mine are, you get one to let me know. Mine are all stories. Like mine are all stories, animals that I've rescued, places I've been. No one has the same tattoo unless they're taking a photo of it and, and, and doing it. But like like minor all original as tattoos should be With you man. Okay, so am I gonna Sunday you gonna be at Christie Pitts? Maybe maybe okay, maybe if informers there he's well I can actually introduce you he came over last week last Monday and we've become Fast friends. I've been hanging with the snowman

It's the best drug you can've been hanging with the snowman. It's the best drug you can take is hanging at the snowman. I can't tell you afterwards. I'll tell you a little bit, but it's been wild, so I'm going to be hanging of the snowman on Sunday. Love this song you've picked. Kick it out now. Out where the river broke, the bloodwood and the desert oak Holding wrecks and boiling diesels, steaming forty-five degrees The time has come to save this fair To pay the rent, to pay our share A fact about It belongs to them Let's give it back How can we dance when our earth is turning? How do we sleep while our beds are burning?

How do we dance when our work is turning? How do we sleep while our beds are burning? The time has come to save this What a great jam, man. Midnight Oil. Amazing band. So this guy, the lead singer, I don't know his name. Something Garrett. Something Garrett? For a moment, because I'm listening to him, I'm like,

Oh, it's Brad Garrett. I'm like, no. Oh, I thought his name. Something Garrett. Something Garrett? For a moment, you know, for a moment, cause I'm listening to him like, oh, it's Brad Garrett. I'm like, no, that's the honest- Oh, I thought his first name was something. That's Brad Garrett was the honest mechanic from the Seinfeld, do you remember this? Yes. That's right. Isn't that Mr. Big?

No. Also, he was also- Mr. Big? Wasn't he also Mr. Big in Sex and the City? No, that's Chris Noth. Oh, okay. Who was on Long Order. But he was the guy that was like the city. That's Chris. No, it was on he was like right You had that deep voice and he did the he was cronk in

The the llama Animated movie okay, I'll take your word for that one, but I can tell you he was on a show I didn't actually watch the show, but a lot of people watched everybody loves Raymond, okay, and that was Brad Garrett But this is not Brad Garrett. This is another Garrett. His name is... As you find his name. So he, this band has always been big into-

Peter Garrett. Peter Garrett. He's always, they've always been big into Aboriginal rights and environmental protection. He became a member of the Australian parliament and minister of the environment. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. While he was still jamming, like while he was still rocking, he- It's like Charlie Angus. Like he got, he got very serious into this and even still now, really, really pushes for Aboriginal and environmental rights and protections. This song, so I mean, I love it because of the environmental and again aboriginal sort of feel to it and another sort of stick it to the man type of song. I reached out to Midnight Oil about seven years ago when I was

pushing for this TV show and you know I was filming all, sometimes on my iPhone, filming all these trips around the world and making up sizzle reels and YouTube videos and I reached out to them Asking if they would eventually if I ever made a show Would they had eventually either let me use this song or would they write something and they got back to me What did they say? They did say no, sorry But they actually, you know, they said, we love what you're doing and we want you to keep doing what you're doing. And we would do, we would let you use this song.

However, it's, it's out of our hands. It's, you know, there's licensing agreements, et cetera, et cetera. Which may have been a very nice way of saying, are you crazy? You can't afford us. But they got back to you with, they got back to me, which that is, that is more than what most people did. Cause I've reached out a lot of people for different reasons regarding this little project of mine. Why don't we just get Sloan to do it? I can talk to the guys. Sloan would be nice. I know all four guys now. Really? Really? Wow. Wow. I mean, one thing I know about the rest of

my life, I know that I'll be living it in Canada. Af, absolutely. The beds, this band, of life, I know that I'll be living it in Canada. Aff, absolutely. The Beds, this band, of course, I think it was another roadside attraction they did with the Tragically Hip, so there's kind of a Canadian connection there with Midnight Oil. Great song. What was the other song? Dead Heart? The Dead Heart, you remember this? It was a big hit. They had a couple of huge hits in this country. I have to hear it. Yeah, if you heard it, you would know it for sure here.

So I love these songs so far. I know we're drinking our Great Lakes beer, but I said I'd invite you to an event. So I'm gonna do it very quickly right now. June 26th, from six to nine PM, all FOTMs are invited. We're gonna collect at Great Lakes Brewery, which is at 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard, down the street from the Costco

and Palma Pasta is going to feed us and Great Lakes will buy you your first beer. It'll be on the house and it's going to be a cool hangs everybody. So be there. It's TML X 19 at Great Lakes Brewery. Also, I have a wireless speaker. These jams are great. You can listen to these jams on your new wireless speaker from Monaris, but you also, Dr. Cliff, need to listen to Season 8 of Yes We Are Open. Have you ever been in your many travels? And I'm curious about that most recent trip. What were were you doing? Were you in the, where were you again? Uh, up in, uh, a Callowit. None of it. I'm curious, like what exactly were you doing there? What would you say you do out here? Trying to stay warm. What was the temps like?

Uh, minus 40. Oh my goodness. We went in January. Yeah, I've been twice. And when I say we, the first time last January, like a year and a half ago, my daughter Emily and my son Brandon went up with me. And then this year we dragged one of my technicians, Arthur, minus 40 minus side, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. We just dressed up nicely. We just do our Dukes. I'm stupid. Do we ever hit minus 40 years? Very rarely. Here's the thing. Like Alberta all the time. Minus 40 all the time. My wife's from Edmonton and she tells me about this. They say stop your whining. It happens all the time. They have block heaters, right?

The only crazy thing is there was about three hours of light in January. Three hours of light. But during those three hours, the most gorgeous blues and whites from all the ice and snow and It's pretty amazing. So what were we doing up there? We were being veterinarians. They have a vet clinic and no vet They've got seven thousand people up there most of them have pets cats and dogs regular cats and dogs and if their animals get sick They got to fly them down to Ottawa at three thousand bucks a pop so We go sick, they got to fly them down to Ottawa at 3000 bucks a pop. So we go up there. Ottawa. Yeah, yeah. There's a real plane, like a big plane, every single day from Air North, I think it's called. And it goes, you know, back and forth from Ottawa. And so they need a

veterinarian not only to do vaccines and spays and neuters and dentals, but like emergency surgeries and my dog's been, you know, had a bladder stone in it for months. Can you please help? That sort of thing. So it's incredibly rewarding and we love it. How long were you there? Each time we go up for, we go up normally for about eight or nine days and both times we've been stuck a few extra days because of issues with the plane. Okay. Well, this is incredible. You do this. Do you have a guess as to how many animals you might see during that stay? I guess. Yeah. I mean, we do probably 30 a day, you know, at the clinic and we had a, we did a, uh, uh, essentially a free

rabies vaccine clinic because rabies is a big problem in the Arctic foxes and in the dogs, therefore we have, we did a free rabies clinic for the, uh, Inuit population there. And in two and a half hours, uh, between Arthur, the technician and I, cause he was giving vaccines as well. We did like 120 dogs. You don't get like carpal tunnel syndrome or something from that repetitive motion? I work out. By the way I see that. I was

checking out the ink and I'm like oh he works out. Yeah I work out. I probably complained about this last time you visited because I feel my pipe cleaner arms I feel insecure around you. Well here's the thing I do have very big arms. I do not lift my arm for my arms at all it's all boxing you got to join me Toronto Boxing Academy man it's close by where is it uh St. Clair and Jane oh oh see is that close wait um I think I don't think you mean St. Clair and Jane I think you mean George Bell Arena or no because St. Clair and Jane and St. Clair was the yeah but isn't there just like a car dealer there on the corner it's like a block down on St. Clair and Jane and St. Clair was the, yeah. But isn't there just like a car dealer there on the corner?

It's like a block down on St. Clair. Okay. Give me a break. Cause you know, the Berenigal ladies named the song after that intersection. Jane. Okay. I, yeah, yeah. I used to live at Jane and Dundas for years.

So, uh, I always joked that they named the song after Jane St. Clair, but there was nothing there, but yeah, close enough. All right. Uh, I, and I only brought up George Bell Arena because I know there's a boxing club attached to it Really like and that's like the junction. So that's like run a mead and Dundas area. Well, if it's no excuse boxing, I'm fighting one of their guys in three weeks to the day I compete in my master Amateur and we literally just found out yesterday that we found another guy crazy enough to step in the ring with

Redford the dog. What's your record? Five and one. I got that one loss man. Who beat you? What is his name? What is his name? Rodriguez. I think I can beat him nine out of 10 times, but he got me that one time. Okay. So we need to, you know, the, what sells is the rematches and then you in that one, that third fight, we can sell tickets. There you go. Okay. We got to think we can talk about this, but I brought up your travels. Oh yeah. Did you see any hamsters in Nunavut?

Like did anyone bring their hamster? No one brought their hamsters. We saw cats and dogs, bunnies, and a little iguana. Oh yeah, did you see any hamsters in noon of it? Like did anyone bring their hamster? No one brought their hamsters. We saw cats and dogs, bunnies and a little iguana, little, what's it called? The dragon. Oh yeah. The dragon lizard.

Yeah, are they popular up there? Okay. The dragon, the lizard. I feel like I've seen those guys. Yeah, this dragon lizard guys. Not Komodos, but these are the smaller No, they're just tiny little things. Hey called get those one of these. Yeah. Oh, there's something dragon You're the veterinarian you're supposed to know this stuff here, but you know, I brought up the head. It was a monkey

I don't know. I brought up I just sort of documentary an audio documentary about how this the hypothesis was that raccoons were like documentary about how this the hypothesis was that raccoons were like North America's monkeys and then they looked into it further and the the end result was that raccoons are really stupid and they're just destructive forces that kind of do whatever it takes to accomplish that one task and they don't like plan or think or anything like that it's just oh I need to get into this thing because I can smell food but they can figure out how to get into that But there's no like they're not smart like a like rats can actually like think about how to navigate a maze and all this stuff Raccoons are just really dumb and they're good at like whatever they just causing destruction to accomplish that task I don't know what your thoughts are in raccoon. I've treated a lot of raccoons. They're very intelligent

So this is uh,, I'm going to have to, uh, talk to the producer of this doc and get you on it because, uh, they really ended this doc by saying that raccoons were like really underwhelming and kind of dumb, not the monkeys of North America. I would say it is a, uh, it is a bias test. Okay. Love it, man. You know what? You should come by more often I have a lot of animal questions I need like the official veterinarian of the Toronto Mike podcast to do that this all this whole way the beer and I'll be happy

Great legs would present beer view. I was there today with my bike trailer in but I'm brought four cases here Because it's a long weekend, you know, it is a long weekend I know have you ever been to Regina, Saskatchewan to help the animals there? I have not. And in fact, Iqaluit was the really the only time we went abroad. We went in Canada. And that was the thing. We'd been traveling to all these amazing different cultures around the world. And finally, we kind of said we should probably do Canada. But we wanted something that was culturally different or geographically different. And they need

you there. Regina's probably got a bunch of vets there and they don't have veterinarians in where you went. Yeah there were no veterinarians in Iqaluit but there are also there's a lot of underserviced areas in all the different provinces as you get north. So we, we loved going. It's amazing up there. We recommended go in the summertime for, for, for, for vacationing. But I went up and I got to try seal meat and I got to try. But did you hunt the seal?

I did not, but they hunted it. Violated your rule. No, no, they hunted it for me. I would do that. I'm not too sure as I speak to you that these cows that helped create this delicious Palma pasta lasagna. I'm gonna give you I'm not very Confident they were hunted. We have other we have I'm pretty sure they weren't we have other people in the in the household that will All right, very much. Okay. Okay. Okay Well, if you ever get a chance to go to Regina,

here's a fun episode for you to listen to. This is Yes, We Are Open, which you're gonna subscribe to so you can listen to it on your new speaker. Al Grego sat down with Grant Frew. I don't know if he's related to Alan Frew from Glass Tiger. I have to find out, but Al sat down with Grant Frew, bar and marketing manager at Bushwacker Brew Pub in Regina, Saskatchewan.

And Grant recounted Bushwacker's unique German beer inspired roots and how it evolved to become a staple in Regina's brewing culture. So thank you to Monaris for sending that speaker over for Dr. Cliff. I just followed him now. So they do, this is a podcast about small businesses. You got it. So these are inspiring stories with small business owners and Al Gregor travels the country.

He should bring you with them and see if anybody has a sick dog or something. You should go check out a Callowit. You know what? If there are at least five small businesses that use Maneras, I believe that is the only prerequisite. You have to be a Monaris. A CalWit has the northernmost, at least in North America, the northernmost brewery.

We spent almost every single evening there after working. I'm gonna talk to Al and he should go up there for the next season, maybe for season nine. It's a really, really cool community. They call it a city because it's the biggest community of none of it so it's the capital city but it's 7,000 people you know pretty much one road except there's a road called that literally is titled the road to nowhere and where does that go nowhere all right let's kick out

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Creating something no one else can Being brave enough to dream big Grinding when you're told to just quit Giving more when you got nothing left It's a person that'll take a chance on Something that we're told could never happen It's a person that can see the bright side Through the dark times when there ain't one

It's when someone who ain't never had nothing ain't afraid to Walk away from more perfect Cause they'd rather do something that they really love And take the pay cut It's a person that would never waver Or change who they are just to try and gain some Credibility so they can feel accepted by a stranger It's a person that can take the fears in their life

And turn them into motivation It's believing in yourself when no one else does it, it's amazing What a little bit of faith can't do if you don't even believe in you Why would you think or expect anybody else that's around you to? I done did things that I regret, I done said things I can't take back Was a lost soul at a crossroad who had no hope but I changed that I spent years of my life holding on to things I never should've kept full of hatred Years of my life carrying a lot of baggage that I should've walked away from

Years of my life wishing I was something different, looking for some validation Years of my life trying to fill a void pretending I was in them They get it Dr. Cliff, this song is relentless. Excellent. And there's nowhere to fade down in this song. You got to just play it through. You just got to.

Yeah. Yeah, that's right. What are we listening to? Hope. It's what is this guy's name? NF. NF. This was this is not my normal type of music.

I'm kind of. Although you have another song later that this reminds me of. Oh yeah. Yeah. I got to check my list here. I want you to be surprised when I find it. What? Oh, that's right. That's right.

The other one. This was brought to my attention in boxing, again, Toronto Boxing Academy. And my son and I were listening to it. My son does boxing with me. And he says, dad, got to see the video and in the video he explains that he's actually arguing with himself and he's saying to himself this is your fault you've listened to everybody else for the last 30 years now it's time to do it my way and to do it you know to ignore everybody else and and the the line where he, you know, my definition of success is

doing something that you believe in or even though you have to take a paycheck, my definition of success is creating something no one else can. Like all these lines, they reminded me of this dream I have of trying to get this TV show made. This film that I did, I financed myself. 100%. I got a mortgage, a second mortgage on my home, which I still haven't paid off. You're betting on yourself, like you're Fred Van Vleet over here. 100%.

And everyone is telling me, you're not going to make this money back. TVO bought it and TVO paid, I'm gonna do math here, two and a half percent of what it cost me. So you know even if I sell it to the US and there's a US broadcaster looking at it now and they're gonna pay probably about 10% of what I paid. So I'm never gonna get this money back but I'm able to create this, I think it's a piece of art, I think Diego the director and producer knocked it out of the director and producer, knocked it out of the park and created this amazing film and this amazing story. And it's

something that I got to do with my kids and especially my daughter. But this song, when I heard this song a couple of years ago, right away it's going on my inspiration playlist because I would cry sometimes listening to this song. Well, firstly, don't give up, man. Keep going. No. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Make sure we're almost there. I'm on your team here. So, so this is so everyone goes and watches TVO has said, if a lot of people watch this and seem to really like it, we would be really interested in making a series.

Okay. Okay. That's you're almost bearing the lead here. Okay. So now I need to order the Legion of FOTMs while you're making dinner, while you're watching the Leaf games, just put it on. Come on, open up a tab, go to YouTube. You'll actually enjoy it though. I mean, I watched it. People will enjoy it. People will enjoy it. It's excellent. And I love it. And your daughter's in there and it's a thrilling, I mean, there's a young Fox who's excellent and I love it and your daughter's in there and it's thrilling. I mean there's a young fox who's and I'm thinking it's flatlining. I get flatlines twice I think and then it's just it's just it's just wild. So you search for Dr. Cliff worldwide vet. You'll

find the whole thing on YouTube the TVO channel obviously so they can TVO docs and it's been available all day it's dropped there it's gonna be there for the next while you got some time okay I have Steve Paykin coming on the show for his quote-unquote exit interview because he's the agenda is ending and he's gonna that's right but he'll he'll still do the on poly podcast and he'll do some blogging and stuff, like some special stuff. So he's in there a little bit. He's keeping a foot in TVO there. He's just not doing the full-time work there. So we're gonna talk about that in the gritty details.

And in that episode, I'm not even gonna say, I'm gonna say I saw a doc on TV called Dr. Cliff Worldwide Vet. It blew my mind. Pagan, you need to tell people about this doc. You should be on the agenda while there is an agenda to talk about this. I would do that a hundred percent and I have some friends that are friends with Steve. I wasn't thinking about you but this is great. I'm saying I can text him right now.

But I don't know if his show is really... I know but what show is then because yeah you're not... but I feel like there's room for you in the last 10 minutes. I have opinions. I have opinions that are outside of the vet world anyways. I got a lot of opinions. Well, even if it's about the raccoons, okay, let's tie it all together. We need a worldwide vet to talk about the raccoons. These raccoons are like we call Toronto Raccoon City, Raccoon Nation here. We got a lot of raccoons, right? These urban raccoons, they might not be smart, like IQ smart, but they are clever in how they can, you know, defy like in MacGyver. They can MacGyver. They can get into that green bin. They'll find a way. If it's a certain angle, they'll get out there protractor. They'll

figure this shit out. Okay. We'll find an angle to get you some promotion there. But yeah, I want the listenership to know you can watch it now. Please, please. On YouTube, Dr. Cliff, worldwide vet. I'm more I want to get to, but I got to get to another jam because I love it. That hope song I wasn't familiar with, but when I'm listening to it, it really is like, you almost had a breath at the end of that thing. Like it's, it's it's a it's a it's a manic. Yeah, yeah. Sure, it is very manic. And the and the video is the same.

All right. You know, we started this jam kicking with a cover. So let's do another one. It's funny how I find myself in love with you If I could buy my reasoning I'd pray to lose When life won't do I'll ask myself, how much do you commit yourself? Oh, it's my life, don't you forget. It's my life. No doubt.

Tell me why this made the cut. So good. I think some psychiatrist is going to be listening to these songs going, this guy's got some demons. This guy needs to have a conversation with a therapist. All of these songs, and this is another one, is a big middle finger to whoever. It's my life, man. I am gonna do what I want. If my kids are listening to this later on, I love you. I love your mom. She's my ex-wife. When I, nine years ago, my first trip was to Jamaica Jamaica my first volunteer trip that had to do with this TV show project

And I came back after three weeks to a dear John conversation And it was a surprise and it was a dark. Oh, you didn't see this because I did not see this coming Hey, I did not see this coming and so there was there was real talk there. Yeah. And and and so it actually pushed me towards this dream even more. And it got me again. I love my ex-wife for giving me these three children and the life that we had.

She never would have let me mortgage my house to do a film. There's no way. But it's my life now. I get to do what I want. And although I am remarried, you know, when you have a second spouse and everyone's had a life before the current spouse, they kind of let you do what you need to do. But that-

This resonates with me. That and I'm a huge No Doubt fan. I am a huge No Doubt. I am not a Gwen Stefani without No Doubt fan. You're a tragic kingdom guy. I am not a Gwen Stefani without no doubt fan. You're a tragic kingdom guy. Yeah. Oh yeah. 100%. When she left, when she started doing the banana, banana, nananas. That's not no doubt.

Yeah. No, no doubt. That is not no doubt. Yeah. So I, and I do like the kind of little ska punk music that they sort of have and and uh... Sunday morning and Spiderwebs Beautiful songs. And I'm Just a Girl. I'm Just a Girl. Yeah so uh yeah this song... Don't Speak was a huge hit. That was a great album, Tragic Kingdom, your mind. And this is not from Tragic Kingdom, we should point out. Yeah so this this song got on my inspiration because again picture me naked in the shower, because that's how I do the showers, and just singing this song. I belt. I was a choir boy and solo singer, you know, doing Rick Astley back in high school.

So I got some pipes. They're a little rusty, but I sing loud in the shower, and this is one of them that gets me, gets me going. So this version, this cover of a talk talk song that, uh, the gen Xers will remember from the early eighties. Uh, this was actually from their first greatest hits album. Uh, no doubt. I'm referring to, they had a greatest hits album they put out in 2003 and this was like a cover to promote that. But I'm a, I'm with you. I really,

like I actually played tragic kingdom all the time and I loved it. And that sound is a bit of ska. There's a bit of punk. There's some pop in there. Rock. It's just all kind of I like that blend. And as the as Gwen's star rose, the no doubt that part of no doubt that sound changed and it became pop here and more top 40. And then some guys I guess maybe were left a little underwhelmed with what happened to no doubt yeah yeah and then she laughed all the way to the bank she went on her own and there you go didn't they had a was it at Coachella a couple of years ago no doubt and her played played again I'm sure but it was it

wasn't the same she couldn't she couldn't let loose and get all sweaty and dirty Also, she's been accused of appropriation right like I feel like she was dressing in some the The garb of a culture she did not belong to and she got some negative press for cultural appropriation herself Gwen Stefani I would wonder if the cultures that you're appropriating actually, it bothers them. Or if there's someone else that's saying, no, this is

inappropriate on their behalf. And they're really going, we don't care. This is, we take it as a compliment. Look, I'm offended by the Notre Dame fighting Irish. OK? OK. All right. Yeah, they'll smack you in the mouth if you say anything. So I'm,

if you played that song called hope and then you're like, Oh, it's not your normal fair. And then I'm like, well, you do have another song in your 10 that is reminiscent of that. Yes. And it's the opening line. Okay. Again, just listen to the opening line. And I can't wait to hear why you chose it, but, uh, people will know it by the opening notes. Whew.

All right. Let's check your heart rate. Let me sync up to your Garmin watch there. Okay. The heart rate starting to rise. You know, I like Eminem, but he's no snow, you know what I mean? With or without peanuts, that's the question. Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity To seize everything you ever wanted One moment, but you captured Just let it slip

His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti He's nervous, but on the surface He looks calm and ready to drop bombs But he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down The whole crowd goes so loud, he opens his mouth But the words won't come out, he's choking how Everybody's choking now, the clock's run out Time's up, over, plow! Snap back to reality, oh, there goes gravity Oh, there goes gravity, choke! He's so mad, but he won't give up that easy

No, he won't have it, he knows his whole back's in his ropes It don't matter, he's dope, he knows that but he's broke He's so stagnant, he knows when he goes back to this mobile home That's when it's back to the lab again Yo, this whole rhapsody better go capture this moment And hope it don't go away Lose yourself in the music, the moment you own it You better never let it go You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow All right, Dr. Cliff, why Eminem lose yourself?

I mean, it's that it's the opening couple of lines. He says, if you had one shot, one opportunity to seize everything you ever wanted, one moment, would you capture it or just let it slip? And it's just that, again, like this, this, I'm gonna go back to this whole dream that I've got and it's taken so much hard work. And for example, again, TVO says, let's get a lot of people to watch this, to watch this show. Alright, I am gonna reach out to every single media person I know. In the last couple of days, I've been on TV four times.

I was on TV a couple of times last week. Well, I want to know the outlets, like where you been? So I did, they ended a vet segment on the Mary Berg show, the good stuff with Mary Berg. So you know, she lives three blocks away. Really? That's real. I think she does it all from her home.

I think she's... well I was at 299 Queen Street. Well she used to have a show maybe she has had multiple shows. Who knows? Yeah yeah yeah. So the Good Stuff with Mary Berg we finished the segment talking about this. I'm the regular vet on the morning show on global so we just had a segment yesterday talking about the documentary. And this is Carolyn. Carolyn and Jeff. And Carolyn went to my high school.

I just heard today that Carolyn married a boy from Malton. Can you confirm that? I can tell you she's a 75 gal. So literally I'm a 74 guy and we're in that high school at the same time. But her husband, is he from Malton? I asked because I'm from Malton. Okay. I played Malton. Yeah. Paul Coffey went to my school. Who runs Tings? Westwood runs Tings. That's what we used to say. Okay. I do know now what is it called the airport? Malton airport. That's right. Westwood is now Lincoln Alexander High School. OK, so let me get this right.

So Mary Berg, that's a big deal at CTV. Mary Berg, The Social. Another Bell Media? Did you do that on the same trip or what? We did them a week apart. OK. Yeah. OK, that's big.

OK, that's big. That's Grillo, Melissa Grillo? Melissa and Ms. Bain were the hosts. Melissa emceed the premiere of my movie when I rented the Fox theater for family and friends. I got her to emcee it. You got her to emcee it. Okay. She's an animal lover. So we did The Social, we did Mary Berg, we did The Morning Show.

And this morning I did Your Morning, also CTV morning show. Okay. Uh, and this morning I did your morning also CTV. Sure. Okay. And then yesterday I did a full hour on Ontario Today, CBC radio with Amanda Pfeffer. I know this show. Of course. Yeah, of course. Yeah. So we did that and, uh, and now your part, I am finishing it up with Toronto Mike. Well, there might be more to come. I feel like, so we can, we can get you on, we need to get you on. So you to get you on CP24. Have you done any CP24? I've done CP24 in the past at my clinic and I reached out to them, but they never replied. They never got back.

Oh, that's it. What about City TV? I know people at City TV. So Breakfast Television has had me on quite a few times and they originally had it scheduled for this week. And then a week ago, they said, you know what, we're not going to promote a show on any other channel. You know, that sucks, right? Back in the day, we didn't think like that. Back in the day. I mean, I get it if it's like, it's a public broadcast.

Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing. It's a break. Give me a break. I'm making some calls. There you go. Um, I'm now, okay.

What do I know that, um, I'd love to get CBC TV. I haven't gotten that Yeah, there you go, okay, so you're doing you're your own PR person I'm my own PR and I've literally man Thanks, man I literally like over the last look it helped when I when I went to Ukraine twice Including deep into the war zone and I got a lot of press out of that for good reason. We raised a lot of money and brought some medicine to the humans and the animals. And so I kept all of those emails and I just reached out to people constantly, constantly. And as Eminem says, man, you got one shot, one shot only.

You got to make this work. So if this does not work, if I don't get what I want, it is not going to be because I didn't sweat blood. And CTV, you know, for all their, uh, their wards, uh, they don't seem to have an issue promoting something on the public broadcaster TVO. Yeah. They've been amazing. Yeah.

They were amazing. He did three things there or something. Yeah. Yeah. Um, they've been excellent. CTV has been excellent. The morning show on global've been amazing. Yeah, they were amazing. Yeah, you did three things there or something. Yeah, yeah. They've been excellent. CTV's been excellent. The morning show on Global's been excellent. Have you done like a news talk 1010 or any Bell Media Radio? Not with this latest thing. I tried to get Ben Mulrooney.

I've been on his show a few times. 640? Sure. I bugged Strombo to get Jim Richards to get me on. Strombo was a molten boy. Apparently not, cause I didn't get on. But it'll happen. The thing is, is this is going to be available on YouTube and on tvo.org for a while.

So I think over the next couple of weeks, people are going, we should have gotten this guy. We heard this guy on Toronto mic'd. We should have gotten this guy on. He's good. All right, so let's do this then. If anyone listening guy on Toronto mic'd. We should have gotten this guy on. He's good. All right, so let's do this then. If anyone listening, and I know people listening right now, like the Mike Apples and stuff who are tuned in right now.

If anyone listening would like to contact you to help you promote this doc on TVO, how do they reach you? What's the easiest way? Like Instagram? Well, you tell me, man. I mean, either Instagram. I'm asking the questions around here. Dr. Cliff at dr cliff worldwide vet or Dr. Cliff dot ca is my website. Dr. Cliff dot ca

All right figure it out And if you figure all those fail just hit me up and I'll get the message figured out to doctors There's only if you google dr. Cliff vet Ontario. You're getting mine. Okay, I promise you. Well, let's make some noise. Let's get some, again, it's a great film. We're not asking you to watch a steaming pile of crap here. Okay. This is a great documentary. It's no game five, Toronto versus Florida. I mean, it's a good film. I don't even remind me, man. I'm a Leafs fan, but I'm like, I was back in the Rick five days, Boris Salming, bunny La Rock like,

Oh buddy. Now you're going way back. I was, I was there for Mike's second run, right? He had two tours of duty here. I had a second one and then I'm thinking of like, my guys were like Alan Bester and Ken Reggett. Ooh, wow. Remember that tandem? That was like the Garth origin, Rance Mullenix of the Toronto Maple Leafs. I liked guys like, like Greg Tarian, right? A builder Lego. Wow. Well, Gary-

I just like Lanny McDonald because of his mustache. Sure, sure. He won the cup in 89. My wife was, cause my wife is a big Oilers fan and the Jets are still alive. They're, they need to do what we need to do. They need to win two in a row to go on. And then we were talking about the fact there's still three Canadian teams alive,

which is not very common. When was the last time there was an all Canadian Stanley Cup final? The answer is 1989 when the Calgary Flames beat the Montreal Canadians in the Stanley Cup final. Oh, wow. There you go. It's a long time ago. Really? I think that's not that long. final. Oh wow. There you go. It's a long time ago. Really? Don't you think? That's not that long. I don't know. There's seven Canadian teams.

Like it just seems like a long time. But it's all your perspective, I guess. All right, then we're gonna kick this jam out and then I'm gonna give you another gift. Here we go. I'm gonna have myself a real good time I feel alive And the world, I'm driving inside out I'm floating around in ecstasy So don't stop me now Don't stop me

Cause I'm having a good time, having a good time I'm a shooting star, leaping through the sky Like a tiger defying the laws of gravity I'm a racing car, passing by Like Lady Godiva I'm gonna racing car, passing by like Lady Godiva. I'm gonna go, go, go. There's no stopping me. I'm burning through the sky.

200 degrees, just while they call me Mr. Fahrenheit. I'm traveling at the speed of light. I wanna make a supersonic man out of you. Don't stop me now. Let me guess, Dr. Cliff. Okay, I've spent an hour here kicking out jams with you. Don't try to stop Dr. Cliff, Red Brun. Don't even think about it. You can't be stopped. Try not to be.

This is my celebratory song. I will flip through my playlist when it's on shuffle when something really big has happened in a good in a good way and I will play this because it just I just dance around like crazy. This song makes me laugh so much because I think of the it was used in the movie Shaun of the Dead. Yes, that's great. And they're beating the zombie to the to the rhythm of this song so anytime I listen to the song I think of. So anytime I listen to this song, I think of that scene and I laugh. Absolutely. Those movies are great.

Was it Big Fuzz? Is that the other one? Yeah, Hot Fuzz. Big Fuzz is a different movie, okay? That's a different movie. You don't want to know what that's about. That's the 70s, I think. Ch-wing-wing. Absolutely.

Yeah, Queen, okay. Diggin' it, man. I love it. I mean, definitely about drug use, this song. Is it, sometimes songs are like, oh, that's about drug use. And I'm like, oh, I completely missed it. Like, I just thought it was about like-

No, I think this guy's getting high as a kite. Yeah, 200 degrees. That's why they call me Mr. Fahrenheit. Oh, geez. I think, yeah. I think he's enjoying something of the chemical nature. And that's fine. You know. To each his own.

To each his own. I have a question for you about songs that reference drug use. So the tragically hip's Bob Cajun. Do you know this song? Vaguely. Well, it's a big fucking jam. You must know it. It has a line, could have been the fucking jam, you must know it. And it has a line,

could have been the Willie Nelson, could have been the wine. This is a gourd line. Like forever, I had this disc and I know my hip and I love my hip and I just took it very literally. It could have been playing some Willie Nelson and drinking some wine, okay? And then somebody... Said no, they're talking about weed.

Yeah, it's a weed, it's about cannabis and the wine. It went right over my head. Yeah, there's a lot of, I mean, that means it's a good song. It was well written and it gives you a surprise. It gives you another, you know, reason to smile or think years later. Oh, I never realized that. I need you around. You're making me feel better. Okay. I have a that I need you around you you're making me feel

better okay I have a measuring tape for you you got a measure like wingspan of ducks and stuff of course you know that stuff Ridley funeral home has sent over this measuring tape for you dr. click I appreciate that Ridley funeral home like I could just see you you got it you're operating on the hamster what did you think of the cold open to this episode? I would have saved that hamster. And then the way he throws it, this is an audio presentation,

he throws the banks off the wall and into the- I think everyone knows the scene. I didn't see it, I just heard it and I knew exactly what was happening. You know it, I know it. I gotta say though, I speak Simpsons to some people and they look at me like I've got a third eye or something and I'm like, oh, you don't speak Simpsons. They're not, I know it. I gotta say though, I speak Simpsons to some people and they look at me like I've got a third eye or something and I'm like, oh, you don't speak Simpsons.

They're not, they're not. They're not the people I wanna be friends with. No, I think it's like. The same thing happens with Monty Python in me. Okay, the dead parrot. Say no more, say no more. Did you measure the picture? Every once in a while I will give a tour of my clinic

and I'll say to people, even though it never lands, I'll say, and this is our surgery room and we have the machine that goes bing see it's not really any with me like I feel like that's John Cleese man I know I know I know some sketches like I know the dead parrot sketch for example and there are some sketches I know the spam I know where the spam comes from and everything but I didn't like I'm not a completist. Yeah I mean you need to be smart maybe I don't know but I don't know. Simpsons it's in this country anyways it's a more broad yes it is it's like Seinfeld culture. Yeah right right right. I want to introduce you at tmlx19 when you come to Great Lakes Brewery on June 26.

I'm going to introduce you to Nick Ienies, who is a sponsor of this show. And earlier this week, I dropped an episode in the Toronto Mike feed, which was actually an episode of Nick's podcast, Building Success, where he coaches me on how to generate more revenue from TMDS. And I think it's an interesting peek behind the curtains. Check that out. I think it's like three or four episodes ago. I could use help because my podcast is not really getting the love that I think it deserves. What's your podcast called? I gotta think about that. No that's not true. It is called Vet Life with Dr. Cliff. How often do you drop episodes? Once week. Every

Tuesday. That's good. Yeah yeah and I've done it for a year and a half now, consistent. Okay. And you enjoy doing it? Very much. Very, very much. So I'm going to keep doing it. You know, sometimes it's just me talking about the vet world or talking about things that are going on. But I mean, like, I've recently had the CEO and president the World Wildlife Fund Canada, Megan Leslie, and I've had a gentleman from the US, Ryan Woodley, who he's a veteran soldier with PTSD, and he now trains dogs to be service dogs to help soldiers with PTSD. Oh, cool.

We've had some really, really interesting conversations. Blake Moynes, who is a conservationist, but it was also on The Bachelorette. He's a Toronto boy. I hear that's huge. I've never seen him in it. Yeah, I don't know. But we people who like that, like if I'm the CN tower together for for charity. So from the outside or did you do the stairs? Like, no, I did it from the outside. Of course you scale it like, Hey human fly here. That's right. I was all dressed up as captain Canada. Like literally captain Canuck captain.

Uh, I called it captain. But it's basically a Canadian flag, you know, full, full body suit. I've got a shield. I've got a cape. I've got these special sunglasses They made me take everything off other than the outfit because it was gonna be a danger climbing up those stairs So I just look like a weird guy wearing a morph suit Well later when you get onto the Google machine go check out Captain Canuck

You may have accidentally emulated Captain and a hundred percent as Captain Canada costume All right, we're gonna kick out this jam by the way human fly here That's actually another Simpsons reference. So there's now two in this episode another band. So you kicked out that Billy Idol song and I remember thinking oh, I'm actually I'm pretty unfamiliar with everything from What was the album? He had an album where he covered LA woman Okay, so this album which we're going way back now, is the last album of Billy Idol I owned and I did like that album, but I think this came out like maybe after his big motorcycle crash or something like that, but he had a big hit

on that. But anyway, I digress. This is another band I loved and we'll talk about the old stuff and then this song, which I'm less familiar with. Let's kick it. stuff and then this song which I'm less familiar with let's kick it Like a soldier coming home for the first time I dodged a bullet and I walked across a landmine Oh, I'm still alive Am I bleeding? Am I bleeding from the storm? Just shot a line into the wreckage So far away, away

Cause I'm still breathing Cause I'm still breathing on my own My hands above the rainy roses Making my way, away Cause I'm still breathing Cause I'm still breathing on my own My hands above the rainbow's edge Making my way, my way

My way to you Dr. Cliff, you're still breathing as well That's right, like a junkie tying off for the last time Chasing that dragon, tell me about Green Day's Still Breathing. Well, I mean, it's such a great song of resilience and surviving and just overcoming challenges. And I can play it on the guitar, so I like it. I can play power chords. That's pretty much about it. How recent is this? This is like, am I right? Yeah. Oh yeah. This is within the last decade. Okay.

Yeah. This is within the last decade, maybe even less. But this is definitely recent. I like their old stuff. Like are you a dookie guy? I enjoy it, yeah, yeah. I got those other bands on my iPhone that I listen to or those other albums. But I do, I like songs that I can relate to and I could, well I could relate

to some of their stuff back in the day. I, you know, I grow up just like they do. There was once, I remember having a co-op student from high school at my clinic about 15 years ago and I was playing some Green Day. It wasn't this. It would have been, you know, does this look infected or something like that. Is that Green Day or is that some 41? Oh, that's some 41. Anyways, I was playing some Green Day and she was like, Whoa, you like Green Day?

And I was like, is that because I'm old? And she's like, yeah. And I said, you realize right now they're 40 years old? No. I was like, yeah, Google it. Like she couldn't believe that they were adults with children. They started young. I remember when Do Ducky came out, I feel like Billy Joe Armstrong was,

I don't know, 19 or something? Yeah, they remind me of, or Billy Talent reminds me of Green Day, in the sense of, you know, just they were a garage band that was probably pretty crappy in the beginning, but they just paid their dues and got better and better and better. And then- You want me to tie things together for you? So Ben, who's the lead singer from Billy Talent.

I love the band by the way. Yeah. And I saw him at the Garrison last week because I went to see, it was in memory of Dave Bookman, Bookie. This was like, bands were doing covers of Tragically Hip songs and this was for the Daily Bread Food Bank. It was pretty awesome. Shout out to Elliott Lefkoe and Steven Stanley who put that on. But Ben was at CFNY, Ben was producing radio shows for George Strombo-opolis you mentioned earlier. Yeah, yeah.

Oh you know this. I can't tell you anything. No, no, I was sort of referencing his name. Yeah, Strombo. Billy Talent. So again, let's go back to the divorce because it's all about therapy. Yeah, I could do a whole 90 minutes on your divorce. After the divorce, I started, all right, I'm gonna focus on myself.

It was actually my father, who had been divorced when I was quite young, had said his mother gave him advice when he became single to like start taking care of himself and be a little bit selfish, like, you know, make yourself happy. And so he gave me that advice and I was like, you know what, I want to go start going back to rock concerts. Billy Talent, Louder Than the DJ was my first concert as a single man.

I was taking my then new girlfriend, Vaso, who now is my wife. And how much gap was there between these, this Dear John letter and the dating of? Six months. You know what? You and I should have a chat. We have the same story. And, and, but, although I didn't get the, I write the dear John letters around you accidentally shout Did you accidentally say I love you to your girlfriend total accident? No, she was leaving I was going to a meeting actually with some TV producers before the Billy Talent Concerts, I'm like, let's go downtown. We'll grab some food

I got to go do this meeting and then we're gonna meet up up and go to this concert. And she was like, all right, bye. I'm going to go grab some food. And I was like, bye, I love you. And then she turned and went, what? I was like, no, no, no, that was a mistake. She's like, wait, so you don't well, no, it's too soon for that. Like she was just, she was just busting my balls. Uh, and she's been doing that ever since. But, uh, and it was an amazing, it was an amazing concert. Now doing the DJ. How long have you been married this time? You don't know that off the top of your head?

Six years. Six years, okay. Okay, and how long were you married the first time? 21. I got married, I was 21 years old when we got married. I was 21 years old when I got married the first time. No way. And she was 20.

High school sweethearts. No. Oh, see we were high school sweethearts. Met her at the Barracuda. Ah, I met her at North Park High School. Okay, so you're high school, okay. But that's wild. You were 21. 21. And you went 21 years, because I went 15 years.

There you go. Which I felt, I feel like is a long time. but you're at six and I'm at 12 with the second and final round here. So it's pretty much, it's pretty much about the same. You just need to grow a beard and get some tattoos and we'll be in work out and work our box at least cause I need, I need your arms. I got strong as fuck calves though. Like I, you know what, not the same thing though, right?

Uh, no, that will help you a lot. You'd be surprised the leg workout that boxing. Strong as fuck calves though. Like I got, you know what? It's not the same thing though, right? Uh, no, that will help you a lot. You'd be surprised the leg workout that boxing. Honestly, I have the strongest. I'm going to say no, no one's got stronger legs than me. I could still beat you in a fight. I'm going to kick you. You try.

I will. Okay. You know what? And again, we're about to kick out the final jam. How like, I feel like we know a lot more about Dr. Cliff because we kicked out these jams. We know something which is similar to me where and I love my ex wife to mother of my first two children and she's an amazing mother and she knows how I feel about her crazy about that woman.

But I didn't start this whole thing, which was kind of a dream, like it just a crazy out of comfort zone thing. Let's go for it. Building this TMU, this community, Toronto Mike, which is now in year 13, let's say 13. I didn't start this until very shortly after I left my marriage. Like, I don't know, and I don't know whether I could have started it in the first marriage but I didn't feel this freedom to do this thing until I was out of the marriage. And you're similar. I think I think we make a mistake this this may come off wrong and if it does it's just that I can't communicate well. I think we make a mistake when we get married and we have children that we make our spouse and our children

99.9% of our focus. And we forget that we have to take care of ourselves and we have to make ourselves happy and we have to chase our own dreams and succeed and fail and hopefully you have a partner that will support you in that and not feel left out And the children will see you as an example of oh In in my kids case they're gonna look at me and they say they see their father chasing their dream And you know even though I'm 51 years old It's my live. Are you turning 52 in this year? Yeah, I'll be 52 in July. You're a year older than me Oh, I'm a seven finally have an answer. I'm a three baby. Okay, 73

We've got the answers we've been looking for there that is inspiring as fuck and I can totally this totally resonates With me and I think what's in this marriage? I will say babe Are you cool if I bike to the concert hall and watch the lowest of the low on Saturday night? Like there's that stuff which I never felt like I never tried that the first marriage like I never felt like I could have this Very Mike centric outlet or whatever like this the cycling Yeah, I have to bike every day like it might be the age like it might be the fact that we got married at 21 right and and at 21 you do think

Your your your spouse your partner should be Taking care of you or should be focusing on you. You're kind of you're kind of selfish in the bad way, right? And so you're immature and you don't realize that oh this person can be their own person And it doesn't take away from how important I am Um that that is my dr phil mormon. Well, I feel like person can be their own person and it doesn't take away from how important I am. That is my Dr. Phil Mormon. Well, I feel like these jam kickings, which I love to do sometimes and we're at the 90 minute mark, so I got to get to this final jam and then I have to actually I have a appointment with my oldest son. So I got to get out of here, Dr. Cliff, but we're going to kick

out this final jam. But sometimes I think it takes, you know, 90 minutes of chatting with somebody, playing music, drinking your Great Lakes beer, where you sort of hit that, you know, oh yeah, there's something here to explore next visit. Like, there's more to you than saving animals, my friend. The next visit, we can talk about my book that's coming out. Did you write it yet? I have, and I have a publisher. When does it come out? The fall of 26. So we got a ways to go. I'm counting the seconds, but this song, I fucking love this song, Dr. Cliff. I'm going to press play right now. And it's, it's long. We got to end in this. We got to close with this, right? Like we're done. So do you any, how about this? Do you want

to say anything? Maybe I Yeah, we have a build up here Say some inspiring words hit the post and let's listen You know what? Just look in the mirror and uh realize the time's going by and chase those dreams and and never stop Giving up and still breathe and it's your life and trying to always have hope Uh, and uh, you know, don't forget about the sound of silence, I don't know. But I said hit the post, Dr. Cliff, you got any more? I don't know what the post is, I don't.

Spay and neuter your pets. Spay and neuter your pets, be kind to animals, be kind to each other, and be kind to yourself. Every time I look in the mirror All these lies in my face getting clearer The past is gone And when my black dust is gone Did I mention I love this song? Nobody knows where it comes and where it goes I know everybody sins, you got to lose to know how it works Half my life's in books, written pages Live and learn from fools and from sages You know it's true

All of things come back to you. Sing with me, sing for the year. Sing for the laugh, sing for the tear. Sing with me after just five today. Remember tomorrow, the good Lord will take you away. Yeah You know, Dream On is the perfect song for you. I appreciate that. I think so. I think so. I love it. Dream On, Dr. Cliff. Dream On, Dr. Cliff.

I always will. Big finish. You ready? How's your heart rate? It's good. I think you need to take me to the hospital. Dream on, dream on, dream on, dream until your dream come true Dream on, dream on, dream on, dream on Dream on, dream on, dream on Sing with me, sing for the year, sing for the laugh and sing for the tear Sing with me, just for today, maybe tomorrow, good love will take away Sing with me, sing for the year, sing for the laugh and sing for the tear Sing a rhythm just for today

Maybe tomorrow because I'm taking pain Dr. Cliff, I loved your return to kick out the jams! It was fun coming on. You're a very lucky man because you came during the one week of the year when Toronto Tree is in full bloom, so our photo by Toronto Tree will be... Beautiful. The most beautiful that tree will ever look. So you're a lucky man. Episode 1695 works perfect. Happy long weekend to everybody. I literally just read that on the live stream. That's from moose grumpy. Hey ref was 21 when

he got married and he wants us to know he's still married to her. So that's the ideal. We don't know. He did better. He did better. You win. Hey ref, you win. Is that what you're saying there? Jeremy Hopkins says, have a good one FOTMs. Love people checking us out live, but for everybody else, you now have your marching orders. This is not a test. You are going to YouTube

and you're gonna stream Dr. Cliff Worldwide Vet. TVO has bought it for only 2.5%. Will you? That's the mind blow in this episode. 2.5%. Canadian dollars too. Well, I don't know where to begin. We need to pay it infinitely more

than anyone else was willing to here. Well, more than I was gonna cough up. I wanted a free link here, but thanks for doing this, buddy. Thank you. Enjoy your beer. Enjoy your lasagna. Enjoy your Toronto Maple Leafs book. Thanks for having me on and dream on.

Dream on. And that brings us to the end of our one thousand six hundred and ninety fifth show. This arrangement is from Rob Bruce. He's going to love the fact you kicked out some Queen. Go to Toronto Mike dot com for all your Toronto Mike needs. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. That's Palma Pasta. That's Monaris. That's Toronto Maple Leafs

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