Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Dream Jams #TOAST: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1993
Episode Date: October 10, 2026On this 1993rd episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 58th episode of TOAST, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out their favourite dream jams.A version of this podcast without pro...grammatic ads is available to all Toronto Mike'd Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hi, Bob.
He has moments.
Two balls and two strikes on it.
Here's the pitch on the way.
A swing and a belt.
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Way back.
Blue Jays win it.
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As Joe Carter hits a three-rub home run.
Blue Jays have repeated as World Series champions.
Touch them all, Joe.
You'll never hit a bigger home run in your life.
Joe.
Just toast.
I'm going to think about it.
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Joining me today for this 58th episode of Toast, on the phone for a short bit, he'll be in the basement shortly.
It's Rob Proust.
Hello, hello, hello.
And in the basement, not Bob's basement.
Okay, that's a different basement.
In the basement, it is indeed from Indy88, Bob Willett.
Good day, gentlemen.
Good day, good day.
So let's tell the listenership.
D.
You are, sorry.
All right.
So, Rob, you're driving right now.
You're driving from Burlington to South Atobico.
Is that correct?
It is correct.
I am on the QEW approaching Oakville as we speak.
So we're going to do the pre-show stuff while you're in the car.
Amazing.
And then you're going to like, you're not even going to park the car.
You're going to roll out of that car.
And then you're going to run down this basement.
We have a cold Great Lakes beer waiting for you.
I cannot wait.
Off the top, Bob.
Yes.
Not Bob, actually.
We're going to start Rob and then we're going to get you, Bob,
because this is the consequential order.
Rob, you were amazing at the Palais Royale that Friday.
night when Tyler Campbell, the VP of Sales and I got to see you in the house band for the West End
Phoenix's 10th anniversary show. How was that for you? It was amazing. It was so, I can't
believe it was two weeks ago tonight. Like, it's weird. The time has gone by already. And it was so
fun to have you and Tyler hanging out backstage. We loved it. I just stormed backstage. No one
invited me backstage. I just went backstage. No, but I was happy to be like your magnet.
Like, I think you sort of found me and I found you, and I was happy to let you just be sort of hanging out, you know?
It's a small backstage. We couldn't miss each other.
Yeah. It was literally just behind the curtain.
And you were hanging out with an FOTM I had never met.
What?
Which one?
Sometimes people zoom in.
Oh, okay.
I don't count that as meeting somebody.
Ron Sexsmith.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, cool.
That's a, he's like, considered one of the greatest songwriters in Canadian history.
Oh, yeah.
They were all first timers.
For me, too, I never met Tom Wilson.
I never met Ron.
I never met Stephen Stanley before.
Wow.
So for me, it was, but then I'm playing songs with these guys as well, so it was super exciting.
Okay, I'm going to crack open.
So Great Lakes heads know this, but they stopped, this is a seasonal thing.
At this time of year, they stopped brewing Sunnyside Session IPA.
So I've got one of the last cans in my hand.
I'm going to crack it open.
And they start brewing the fighting weight Octopus wants to fight.
So you're welcome, Rob, when you get in this basement,
you could crack open the Octopus Wants to Fight
Fighting Weight IPA.
I'm crack it open to Sunny Side.
So you worked with all of those artists,
and was there any particular song
that was more difficult than others?
No, but it was, I mean, they were all challenging
because it was all, you know,
the only song that wasn't challenging was that we did Nova Heart.
Don Kerr, who drums with the Rio Statics and with Dan Mangan and everybody, he was drumming in the band with me for that night.
But he got up in front to sing Eyes of a Stranger, segue into Nova Heart, which was really cool.
That's fun.
But all the other songs were sort of challenging, but songs that I sort of knew, like Ron sang Seasons in the Sun.
And there was a guy named Dave Wall who sang, Gino Vanelli, I just want to stop.
and actually a really fun song to play
with Carly Ray Jepton.
What's it called? Call Me Maybe.
Oh, cool.
Call Me Maybe.
Amazing.
Now, I want to ask you another follow-up
and then get Bob's take on this,
but that Friday night,
I've said this on Toronto Mike twice already,
so this will be the third time,
so the real heads will be like,
stop repeating your stories.
But now I have Rob Pruss on the show.
But that Friday night,
Dave Bedini and his band,
which included you on keyboards,
kicking ass and taking names,
he broke into Rush's spirit
of radio.
Yeah.
And we learned,
I learned on Monday morning,
maybe that's when you learned,
that David Marsden
had passed away that very day.
Yeah.
So David Marsden put on his wings
as Bidini and you
and the rest of the band
was playing Spirit of Radio,
a song about CF and Y
and the slogan that was coined
by David Marsden.
Can you share with us
your memories of the late great
FOTM, David
Marsden.
Well, first of all, when you
mentioned that, I thought that that was an interesting
sort of like a
celestial coincidence that we were singing
the song, that we were doing the song,
knowing that he passed away that day, which you're right, we didn't
know until Monday. Right.
But I loved Marsden.
Like, I mean, we first
met him when we released our first album
in 81, so we're talking
45 years ago. He was
like instantly one of our greatest supporters.
I mean, we got champion on that station
And we got played nonstop.
I mean, as far as, of course, we're CanCon.
We're like, there weren't a lot of bands doing what we did at that time.
So fortunately for us, we were in the right place at the right time.
But he certainly was a huge champion and supporter of what we did.
And he would come out, like, he would come out to gigs.
When we were going on tour with Culture Club in the spring of 83,
he came out to Burlington to say, like to wish us well as our tour bus came to pick us up.
Wow.
He drove to this park to the parking lot out in Burlington.
Yeah, it's so funny.
Like he just,
I think maybe because we were so young,
he just felt like,
like he was very proud of us as far as like the things that we were doing as well, you know?
Amazing.
That's so cool.
Now Bob,
and then over the years,
we would just see him.
And then when I moved to New York,
he came to New York in like 20,
I want to say maybe 2011 or 12.
He came down and I got him tickets to come see Mamma Mia.
And we went out,
we went and had dinner afterwards.
and stuff, and it was just like, that was the first time that we had
reconnected in a long
time, so it was great to see him here as well.
Okay, you were really close with
David Marsden. Yeah.
Yep. That's crazy.
So even though he was 85,
did you feel like I felt, which is like
shock?
For sure. But you know what? We're all
like shit. Like, shit.
Well, no, no. Respectfully,
85 is different than, what are you?
60? I just heard of
61. Okay, you're 61.
You, I would be floored if anything happened to the great Rob Proust.
Lord Willing, nothing happens to the great Rob Pruss,
who Ty the Christmas guy knows I love very, very, very much.
But David Marston, you know, he's been on here a bunch of times and I've had great chats
and I dropped my first chat with David as an episode of Toronto Mike.
Y, Y, YZ Gordon, who's in Japan right now.
Japan is a band.
There's a great story about David Marston when Japan visited Brampton.
Anyway.
And Rob loves the band, Japan.
Yeah.
It's one of his.
Right?
I'd say one of your favorite from that era, right?
I love them.
I mean, yeah.
And then we use their producer, John Punter, as well.
He produced our second album.
Wow.
Japan is a band, though, guys, because they don't have any, like, lasting hits.
Yeah.
I don't think people know Japan.
No, like, they're one of those bands.
It's I-Y-K-Y-K-K, right?
Like, if you know, you know.
You had to be there.
Yeah, you had to be there just like Godfell.
And I feel like if people know the band Japan and they are like,
you have to be of a certain vintage, of course.
And then they have great meaning because we didn't need bands to have singles
because if they were getting played on CFNY, that's all we needed.
But CFNY was mandated where they couldn't play hits.
Yeah.
No one talks about this,
but Scott Turner kind of spelled it out for me one day during the pandemic in the backyard
that they weren't allowed to play
more than a certain number of top 40 hits,
so they had to go overseas and play British stuff
that wasn't hitting here.
Wow, interesting.
Go ahead.
That's cool, though, because it made them have to, like,
dig deeper and find more interesting stuff,
and there was so much music happening at that time anyways, right?
Like, there was lots to choose from.
Yeah, I mean, you know, that's the old saying,
necessity is the mother of all invention,
and is CFMY what it is,
is CFNY in the in the grand scheme of like the history of broadcast
what it is now without that rule?
Maybe not.
Maybe if they probably not.
They also had all these expectations of a license with the foreground programming.
That all the stuff.
More Scott Turner stuff.
Yeah.
Fred Patterson told me this years ago.
When I worked when I produced the Humble and Fred show,
and it's not to take any of the shine off of what a guy like Marsden did or what CFMY
was,
but they had to do those things.
And the fact is they did them very, very well.
Like the Kim Hughes show live.
Was that live in Toronto?
Yeah, live in Toronto.
That was one example.
Yeah.
And streets of Ontario and all these different shows.
They had to.
Yeah.
They were mandated to have that program programming.
Yeah.
Then they kept adding on those expectations of license when they applied to get on the CN Tower.
And that like so they made the dock, by the way.
Yeah, of course not.
But the other thing, too, though, is that like you, because you guys are
just younger than me, younger enough than me, that you have to think of it more like the
memories of like a college radio station or an indie, that's literally an indie radio station
that has airwaves, right? So these guys were DJs and they were playing eclectic stuff,
but that's what they wanted to play, but then they were getting support to play it,
and it grew into the mainstream. So it wasn't so much, I mean, Marsden really felt like he had
bosses, but the bosses trusted him enough to say, yeah, I'll trust you to play whatever you want to
play. So they were, sure, they were skirting around maybe some certain issues, but the bigger
picture is he fucking loved music. He wanted to like, like, introduce new bands and new music,
and he just played what he loved. And every DJ came on there and they played what was
important to them as individuals. There was no corporate overlord saying, well, we need this and we need
that now. I do not believe that any of that was ever happening. Not when, not during the hey days.
That's for sure.
No, no, exactly.
I mean, I'm talking the first 10 years of CF & Y, you know.
Yeah, I mean, you know, the last time I saw Marston was at that Wolfgang Klein party that you got invited to, Rob.
And it was, it was great, it was great to see him, but Phil Evans was there.
Captain Phil Evans was there.
Was Rob invited there?
I don't know.
I don't know if Rob.
Okay, you said Rob, I think.
Did I?
Yeah.
I did what?
I said you were.
You were invited, Mike.
You told me.
I thought you said you were invited there, Rob.
No, I meant to say, Mike.
Sorry, I don't know.
I know.
I know you were, Mike.
I was definitely invited there.
But this was a guy who used to be...
I politely declined.
Who used to be a sales guy.
But it was a huge party.
It ended up being way bigger than I expected it to be.
But it was the last time I got to see Marsden.
But I also bring up Captain Phil because he was there.
And he's the one that really kind of put into my mind about the influence of that station.
And just like how...
Think about how small of a station it really was in the grand scheme of things.
But it has more resonance and more cult status.
then Q107, then Chum, even the AOR days of Chum when they're playing, you know, when they were trying to do, doing all.
Chum FM had to do the same thing that CFMY did.
Chum FM had to not play hits, had to have foreground, had it all.
But they, because they were protecting AM.
Yes, because they were trying, yeah, so Chum FM and nobody talks about, not that nobody talks about.
Okay, Rick Moranis was a jock at Chum A.m.
Right.
But nobody talks about those stations that had this very similar rules.
They didn't do it right.
He did it right.
Marston did it right.
Wow.
So we lost a good one in David Marsden
and then we talked about it on FOTM cast
for six and a half hours or something like that.
And then,
very shortly after we recorded FOTM cast,
another beloved FOTM passed away.
I'm just going to play a moment of this.
And Rob,
we're going to find out if you,
if you remember these jams, let's listen.
I think this is my favorite SaaS.
She's got a bunch of big Canadian hits,
but they weren't CFNY.
hits. None of these songs
made it to CF and Y. They were more like Q107
bluesy rockers.
But what are the thoughts from you two gentlemen
regarding the late great
SaaS Jordan?
Oh, I mean, look,
I appreciate what she
represented and what she brought.
Six years she was a host,
or she was a judge on Canadian Idol as well,
which I think a lot, a whole generation of people
know her from that.
Admittedly, I think the comparisons to
Atlanta Miles happened quite a bit.
I just recently, I could find, I found, she did an album not that long ago, maybe 10 years ago,
and there's some real bluesy, like really classic blues sounding songs that I kind of just dug.
I found, it came up on a playlist or some algorithm or something.
So I have to admit, I didn't know.
Her music was never part of my life, but I appreciate what she brought, what she meant to
the Canadian music industry.
And I can see why she resonated with so many people.
Rob, what say you about Sass Jordan?
It's interesting.
So after she passed away, I went back and listened to the first album,
which came out in like 92, I think.
Oh, it had the big single tell somebody.
Yes.
And it's interesting because listening to it now, like over 30 years later,
I think I thought in the beginning she sounded just like the Black Crows,
like the groove and the sound of her voice.
Stylistically, it was really like that,
which I think was probably a good thing for her to like,
get an introduction to the airwaves.
And I thought she was good.
I never owned the records.
I did see her open for Richard Marks in Ottawa in like 92 or 93.
Probably 92.
Did you listen to her on Toronto mic?
I did when she was first on.
But I have to go back and listen again.
But when it was first originally aired, I did listen to you guys.
All right, I'm going to play 30 seconds of Sass Jordan on, only 30 seconds.
Here we go.
I was going to say, I think this is my favorite interview I've ever done.
Is that right?
And we've done a lot of interviews.
It's not as much of an interview as it is just hanging out and having fun.
That's the fact that you have found stuff that I'm like, what?
I clearly forgot about it.
Like, I totally forgot about that.
Because I do my homework.
You know why I do my homework?
Because I give a shit.
See, I don't like to know about myself.
Thank you.
Well, you're enjoying it.
I think people say that.
Yes, you're having a blast.
It's so fun.
Big recommend for me is the SAS Jordan appearance in the gentleman.
Brian Linehan now.
And who's the new Sean Evans from Hotway, the Hot Wing Show?
Always bring it up stuff that people don't know.
You're the Canadian version of Sean.
You brought up stuff I didn't even know.
I think he's the American version of Toronto.
There you go.
There you go.
Yeah, right.
So Sast us two, and we won't dive in because there's no music to play for Larry
Milsen, although he was there when Joe touched him all,
which we played as a cold open for 1993.
Did you know Rob Pruse?
That's why I was playing the Joe Carter.
a home run? I sure did not.
1993. That's a year every Blue Jays fan
will remember for the rest of their lives. I remember
that in 93, but I didn't remember him.
Larry Milsen passed away and just a
gentle soul, a nice guy who had a million
stories and I think he told most of them
on Toronto Miked and I was sad to learn
Larry Milsen, but that's
like watch your back, Rob, because that's
three FOTMs to go in a row. Bang, bang, bang.
bang bang
well they happen in threes
you didn't bring up
I'm doing it right now
so the Palais Royal was a Friday night
and Proust you were great
did you know you were great
thank you
is that all your own
I appreciate it
but it was just a lot of fun
like I put a lot of work into this
these kind of things and it was actually
the timing of it was weird
and good because Leia and I
have been moving so we just moved a week ago
how did that go
and it went really well
so we're still living among boxes
and I just had a baby grand piano
delivers to the house yesterday.
Living in a box.
Yeah, but so while we were packing up
and preparing for the move,
I was also learning these 25 songs
for the Bidini gig.
And literally the day after I,
two days after I got home from doing the gig,
the movers came to pack up our house
and take it out.
So I was sort of living between these two worlds,
but I think it helped sort of ease the stress
of both of them
because I had to kind of jump back and forth
in my trains of thought.
Did Bradford How move you?
I knew you were going to ask that.
No, but you know what?
Here's a funny thing.
The guy who delivered my piano yesterday,
his uncle is a guy named John Hume,
who played keyboard with the gravelberry.
Oh, Paul Myers Band.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
How weird is that?
That is wild.
So I saw you on Friday night,
and then Saturday night I found myself at Massey Hall
where I saw Bob Willett.
Not performing or anything.
I was just sitting,
just sitting there watching the show.
did not perform. So Bob, what did you think
of the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame induction?
I think Amazon put a ton of money into that show.
I've been now,
it's my second or third time going,
and this is the first time that Amazon was streaming
it at the same time, and I found it
phenomenal. They did a terrific
job. Like, the production
value was amazing. The sound
in the place was great. It
ran on time. It ran well.
The band was so
solid. And then
it was fun. It was just a fun night.
Strombo did a great job with the French host who I don't know her name.
Yeah, she's lovely too.
Yeah, it was just, it was a really, really good show.
I was very, very fortunate to be there to see it.
So many great performances.
And something you don't normally see when somebody gets inducted into the Hall of Fame,
they don't normally perform.
It's usually in the Canadian songwriters' Hall of Fame.
Although I saw Tom Cochran perform.
Did Tom do it?
He did it, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, so I'd never seen, like I saw I was there, Olivia Rodrigo put
Alanis Morissette in and
Brian Adams
but he didn't perform
anyways
It is rare
It is rare
And but then
Roch Voisin did
And I think everybody in that place
If they didn't know who Rock Vizine was
And there probably were quite a few
We're in love with the guy by the end
He's,
you talk about a guy with charisma
And personality and just
Just cool
I don't know
Do you ever cross paths with Rock Voisine
Rob?
I never did
but I always, the way you describe him,
I can picture him exactly because I remember
if he had that vibe, for sure.
He's just, like, he reminds me,
he's got a bit of a Robin Thick look now,
like an older Robin Thick, so maybe Allen Thick.
But he's got, but,
but without, like, he's not,
without the creepiness that Robin Thick brings sometimes.
Oh, by the way, I brought up Japan earlier,
and I see now that Y, Y, Y, Z, Gord is leaving the,
the live stream because he's going to enjoy his Saturday,
because he's in Japan,
and it is Saturday.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
13 hours, I think it is.
They're in the future.
I think it's 13 hours ahead.
Was that all the dead people you're going to talk about?
Okay, well, that is it for dead people.
Well, no, there's one more dead person.
I was going to say, I got one that maybe you forgot.
I'll do one more and then you'll tell me who I forgot.
Okay.
But I brought up, why did it bring up?
Yeah, so Y Y, YZ Gord was joking at live.
Tronelamac.com that the number count has been rising quickly because every time an
an FOTM dies, I put out of an episode with like an extended excerpt from their
Toronto mic appearances.
I call it remembering, whatever,
remembering David Marsden,
remembering Larry Milsen,
remembering Sass Jordan.
And the number count,
I could stop recording now
and we'll still get the episode 2000
just from like FOTMs dying.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Okay, let me play.
That's why I brought up Japan.
So you have ones,
yeah, these are,
you have.
I'll play one more.
I'll play a song.
You have 17 rememberings to go?
No, I'm just saying 17 people
will eventually die.
Well, yes, of course.
Everybody dies.
I was going to say,
did you know that every,
you know,
thank you flaming lips.
Right.
Everyone you know one day will die.
Okay, here's a little bit of a jam,
and I can't wait to talk about this,
but not for the reasons.
Firstly, when that song starts,
don't you think it's going to be like a Christmas song?
Does this sound Christmassy?
A little bit.
It's a little bit like,
do they know it's Christmas?
Yeah, that's it.
Maybe that's it.
Okay.
So Pete Byrne died at 74.
He was 50% of naked eyes.
The other chap's already gone.
And I thought I'll do a little thing here.
And I want to hear your thoughts on,
obviously, especially you, Rob Proust,
because this is naked eyes.
There's a synth going on here.
This song was huge.
But can I do it like a quick little...
By the way, where are you right now?
Me?
I'm in like Mississauga.
Oh, Bob.
Where are you?
Just kidding.
Oh, you're in Mississippi.
Saga.
Okay, you're close.
Yeah, good.
For those who don't know,
I'm getting close.
Mississauga is the
closest city to the west
of Etobico here.
Okay.
So, this song
was a top 10 hit
in the summer of 1983.
Big jam, right?
Right, Rob?
I remember it well.
Okay, maybe now is a good time
to tell me your thoughts
on this song
and naked eye.
This part here, listen.
I hear the bells.
Yeah, there's bells in there.
why I think it's Christmasy. There's bells in there. Okay. What was your thoughts on this song in 83,
Rob? My thoughts were that I loved this song. I did not own an album from Naked Eyes. I think I had the
12-inch single of this song because it was a very unique sounding song at the time. I think when it was
released, we were, spoons were just, we'd either just finished the culture club tour and we're
starting to record with Nile Rogers. So everything that was brand new to me was inspiring. Like,
we were taken in every sound from everywhere. And I love...
I love that song so much.
Did you know at the time, in 1983,
did you know this was a cover?
I did not.
I did not, for sure.
Okay, so here's our little tour, okay?
Maybe some people know this.
I just did this on 8088 the other day.
I did.
Okay, well, Bob, you can fill in the cracks,
what I miss here.
But I'm going to play a young lady at the time,
not so young anymore, but still with us.
I walk along the city streets you used to walk along with me.
And every step I take recalls
How much in love we used to be
Oh, how can I forget you
When there is always something there to remind
So Bob, tell us whose voice do we hear right now
Oh, this is, I just know who wrote it
And I know who did the original
So, okay, so here's how it works
So it was written by a favorite of Rob Proust and others
Burp Backerack and Hal David wrote this song.
And they, the muse, I suppose, their vocal...
This is Gladys Knight, isn't it?
No.
No.
Dionne Warwick.
That's it.
And this is the first recording of the song.
She recorded it as a demo in 1963, okay?
So this is the recording by Dionne Warwick of that song written by Burt Backrack and Hal David.
And bear with me, folks.
Always something there to remind me.
This version I love.
This version is so cool.
I also didn't learn until just recently as well,
because this was a cover.
I walk along the city streets you used to walk along with me.
And every step I take me cause how much in love we used to be.
Oh, how can I forget you?
This is the first time that song ever
Charted. It's Lou Johnson.
This version goes to number 49 on the Billboard Hot 100.
We're talking mid-1964, okay?
There's a woman named Eve Taylor
who hears this version while she's visiting the United States.
She is British,
and she is scouting for material
because she has an artist that she recently,
discovered named Sandy Shaw.
And she brings this song back
to England
and plays it for Sandy.
And Sandy covers the song.
And it goes, ready for this?
It goes to number one in the UK.
Also goes to number one in Canada.
So I'm going to play, just to play us out here,
Sandy Shaw's number one,
not in the States, didn't hit in the States.
Just UK and Canada.
This is her cover based on the one we're listening
to right now.
They replaced horns with bells.
Yeah.
It's too Christmassy.
I walk along the city streets who used to walk along with me.
And every step I take recall so much in love we used to be.
Bob, did you say there's somebody else you want to?
to pay tribute.
Oh, I just thought maybe you might, given our Gen X status.
It might be a little too young for us or, you know, but Dennis something or another guy who played Mr.
Belding passed away from Saved by the Bell.
Dennis Haskin.
There you go.
Dennis Haskin passed away.
Mr. Belding passed away.
RIP, Ritley Funeral.
Principal Belding.
Yeah.
He was a big part of, I think he was on, like, all the way.
He was a mainstay through the whole show, right?
He was there to the end.
I think Screech became vice principal.
Yeah.
Way after Zach and, yeah, I was a big.
Saved by the Bell Watcher.
Yeah, I was a casual saved by the Bell Watcher.
If it was on...
Saturday mornings.
If it was on after school or whatever,
I might be on because I grew up in a household
where as soon as you came in to your home,
you turned the television on.
That's what you did.
Yeah.
Well, my youngest still does that.
So, Rob, here's the big million dollar question.
Have you ever seen an episode of Saved by the Bell?
I have not.
I know that.
Not even one.
He's too old for that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I may have seen it in passing.
And I know of the show, but I definitely could not tell you a single character or anything like that.
No, listen, Kelly Kapowski was not on your radar.
I can tell you, I felt too old for, say, by the Bell, but I still watched it.
I think I felt.
And you know who started there?
Tori Spelling started on that show.
Yeah.
Yes, she did.
Yeah.
Is Screech dead?
Yeah, Screech is dead.
Right.
Yeah, Squeach is dead.
And now Mr. Belding is dead.
So that's the principal and the vice principal who are gone there.
Anyways, I just thought you might mention him.
Dennis Haskins passed away.
Okay, good.
I'm glad you brought it up here.
Only 70 something, too, like 74 or something, quite young.
But he was quite sick.
I can't remember.
He had a disease, a deabilitating disease,
and he hadn't made any public appearances in a while.
Why are you saying disease so musically?
He had a disease.
I got a strange disease.
Milo and Otis.
There you go.
Is that Prozac?
Rob, you ever heard Prozac?
Yes, he has.
He wouldn't know it.
He wouldn't know it.
No.
I mean, I probably have.
Side project of Jarvis Church, isn't it?
Not Jarvis Church.
The other guy from philosopher king.
Sorry, that's right.
Jarvis Church was working on Canaan maybe and maybe Nelly Fertado.
Maybe Nelly Fertado.
What happened to that other Canaan album is supposed to be coming out?
I don't know.
I told you he got like softly canceled for some allegations against him.
Well, he got blackballed by Universal Music way back after the third album.
Jeez.
He went and wrote an op-ed in a canon did in the New York Times, basically saying that
the label made him change all the names
and subject matter of his songs to more white
accepting names. I did, you know what?
I got to read this. I had no idea. Oh, it's out there. Yeah, yeah.
You can find it. And then he was, he's never been, he hasn't
had a hit since. Oh, geez.
I love Canaan so much. There is another death guys.
Oh. A lot of deaths out there.
Who died from the fair?
We're so bad. We know we're good.
Blowing your mind like when you be wood.
You know, we're just threatening our stock. We're just here to do the super
bullshit. Well, they call me sweetness. And I like the dance.
Running the ball is like
Mick Mo Manse
We had the goals
This training camp
To give Chicago
A Super Bowl champ
And we're not doing this
So kids
Okay, I'm the oldest
One who would watch football
I don't think Proust has ever seen a football game in his life
Uh
I've seen it on TV
You've never been to a professional football game
NFL or CFL?
No
Have you ever been to an,
you've been to an NHL game?
Yeah
Have you been to an NBA game?
What's that basketball?
No.
You've never been...
Wow.
Are you just new to the fact
Proust, except for his nephew,
the professional goal teller.
He's sports oblivious.
No, but to the point where, like...
Anyway, so it's fine.
I don't think he's...
Go back to the...
Who died from the Bears?
Okay, so the Bears had an amazing team in 1985.
Yes.
They dominated 85.
Of course, the Super Bowl happens in early 1986.
They went easy, okay?
And on their way to the Super Bowl,
they record this song,
the Super Bowl shuffle.
And I remember it well from the time, you know, Bob, you're probably old enough to remember.
I was 10.
Yeah.
You were 10, yeah.
Yeah.
You were 10, hey?
Holy smokes.
Anyway, dead today, sadly.
Oh.
Mike Ditka.
Mike Ditka.
I remember him from being on SNL.
Yeah, he was the Bears.
Yeah, the Bears.
Yeah, the Bears game was just on television.
And they had, people still dress as Mike Ditka in the audience, in the crowd.
That's crazy.
Amazing.
What an influence that guy had.
So Ditka just died today?
Yeah.
I didn't even hear about it.
He died today.
He's 86 years old.
Mike Dicka.
And Dicka, yeah, he was the coach of this team.
And when I think about Dicka, I think of this particular Chicago Bears team.
And then I think about the Super Bowl shuffle.
You don't think about the Super Bowl shuffle before you think about the SNL sketch?
Maybe the SNL sketch.
I think the SNL sketch.
If somebody says Ditka to me.
The Bears, yeah.
Yeah, it goes right to the Bears.
The Bears was.
George Went.
George Went was a huge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And Mike Myers, George went Mike Myers,
and then John Goodman would come in and do it as well.
Right.
A bunch of them.
Yeah.
So Dick has gone.
Hey, Rob,
give us an ETA because if you have a little more time,
I'll do something I've been,
it's just a little something you might enjoy.
Okay.
We're not doing the dream jams.
We're kicking out dream jams.
We're not going to start dream jams until you're in the basement.
My last dream jam is very short, so it's good.
Okay.
So the minute you get down here,
you crack a beer and we're going to roll of your,
dream gems. In the meantime, I'm just going to play a little bit of five songs and then Rob,
just trust me, they're not songs, they're more like compositions. And then Rob, you're going to
tell us what they have in common, okay? Because I was amazed to find out something they all have
in common, okay? Let's start with this one. Don't say anything about them yet. Okay.
Oh, that's all you need for the theme from Psycho, okay? That's the theme from Psycho. Okay?
Here's another song. Stand by up. Oh, from the first season anyways. So I've been
watching really old episodes of the Twilight Zone, and this is the theme for the first season of the
Twilight Zone, okay?
Yeah.
Before that other theme.
Okay, now ready for this one?
Now when I hear this, I just think Tarantino, but this is a twisted nerve.
Okay?
And here's another one, everybody will know.
That is the theme from Cape Fear.
Now I'm thinking of the Simpsons episode.
Okay.
And there's one more here.
And we'll pass the mic to Rob.
Is this still Cape Fear?
No.
This is now Vertigo.
Oh.
So this is Hitchcock's Vertigo, the theme from Vertigo, which I just watched recently for the first time, believe it or not.
Okay, I'll bring it down now.
So Rob Pruse can tell us, what do these five compositions have in common?
The compositions have the composer in common, who is Bernard Herman.
Nice.
So this was, remember we played that Beatles song, Eleanor Rigby?
and then I said he was inspired by the psycho theme.
And then we talked about...
So that got me looking into this Bernard Herman guy.
And it blew my mind the number of compositions
that Bernard Herman's responsible for that.
We just know.
He's up there.
Yeah, he's amazing.
All right.
Well, it's funny.
I was listening.
My one daughter, she actually really likes classical music in the car,
especially kind of calms her down.
and I actually have,
I don't think I could play it right now
because we're talking to you on it,
but,
um,
Dvorak is that,
is that,
Dvorjak.
Dvorjak.
Dvorzac,
uh,
there's one of his pieces that I've saved it as I want.
He,
um,
I know that John Williams is always inspired by classical music,
but oh my God.
John Williams basically stole from Dvorjack.
Like it's crazy.
There's what it's,
the beginning of the song sounds like,
uh,
Jaws.
And by the middle,
or the,
or the piece,
the symphony.
By the middle,
it's,
the Star Wars theme.
All in, like, in three and a half minutes.
I was like, I was losing my mind, and I was thinking about you.
I have it ready to go for the next time we're all together.
I don't know when that's going to happen.
Maybe in the next five minutes or so.
Yeah.
Well, Bernard Herman was a huge influence on John Williams.
He's one of the greatest of the early 20th century film composers for sure.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You know what he did that I think is really interesting.
He really worked with Orson Welles.
He did the music for Citizen Kane,
which is considered one of the greatest films of all time.
But he also did with Orson Welles.
I don't know if you guys are,
did you ever hear about the thing that Orson Welles did on the NBC radio
with the War of the World, that whole live thing.
Of course.
Wait a second here.
You think you're talking to some millennials or Gen Zs?
How can we live in a universe where we don't know all about the War of the World's?
There are people younger than us that do not know that.
I guarantee.
But we're not younger than us.
conducting the orchestra for that as well.
Right.
But did you really think there was a chance
Bob and I would ask you what you're talking about?
Yeah, sure.
War of the Worlds.
It was made into a Tom Cruise movie.
That's true.
No, but it wasn't just,
it was the radio broadcast
that freaked out the entire universe.
People went nuts.
What a mislike saying?
Did you hear about that Zeppelin
that burned up and crashed?
Oh, the humanity.
Yeah.
Like, Rob, I'm kind of offended right now.
Like, we are aware people
about pop culture and events?
Are you going to ask us who won World War I?
Who started World War I?
That's what I want to know.
Oh, Franz Ferdinand was shot.
That's a catalyst.
That's a catalyst.
That's a catalyst.
We learned that in school.
Right.
But not the cause.
I didn't learn anything about World War I in school.
Nothing.
I majored in history, so I can't remember what I learned from that part.
Oh, I didn't finish any, you know, post-secondary.
I'm talking about like just...
No, I know.
High school.
school elementary, no World War I at all.
Nothing.
That's kind of interesting.
Never.
Not a thing.
A big deal, no.
The only thing you'll hear is stuff on Remembrance Day about them.
But it was never part of a lesson.
Jimmy Ridge or something like that.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay, so I have a song going.
Yes, you do.
Very early Cranberries.
I think this is their first hit.
The next song would be Linger.
This is from the first album, Cranberries.
And Dream showed up in a million movie trailers.
There was this time when your movie.
movie trailer probably had this song in the background.
But this is a great dreams jam.
It would have been great to hear it tonight, but it got Hanson.
So I just want to say much love to the late great Dolores O'Reardon, who lived in Ontario for a time.
Her kids are Canadian.
Like Mississauga, I think.
Well, they were out in Peterborough originally.
They had a place.
We should tell him our story about, oh, no, that wasn't you.
No.
Okay, so the VP was over here because I was helping to record something for work.
and then we're talking to the Browns, some neighbors,
that's their name, the Browns.
That's like in Kirby and Susan, the blacks.
That's their name, the Browns.
Not my nickname for them.
And we were talking about,
because the guy just went to Hamilton
to see Twisted Sister, okay?
And we were saying, oh yeah, I said,
I heard Dee Snyder, this will come back to you, Bob,
but I said, I heard Dee Snyder retired.
And he says, oh, there's a new lead singer.
Do you know who the new lead singer of Twisted Sister is?
I do.
No.
Well, we'll let Bob answer because D. Snyder,
I blew Tyler's mind when I told him
D. Snyder was on Bob's basement.
Yes, he was.
So I'm turning the mic over to Bob Willett.
It's Sebastian Bach, isn't it?
Yeah.
Sebastian Bach is the singer for Twisted Sister now.
Yeah.
Weird.
With blessings from Mr. Snyder.
He's all for it.
Even though we wore that t-shirt that one time.
What does this have to do?
Where did this come from?
What's the line of thought?
The line of thought was,
that it's of, I thought it was interesting that,
Dee Snyder, I didn't know.
It just occurred to me that Tyler and I were blown away by the fact
Sebastian Bach is a new lead singer for Twisted Sister.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you know, Dee called me and, you know, we talked it out a little bit.
And I said, look, you know what?
I'm not the biggest Sebastian Bach fan,
but really, if there's somebody who's going to, like, embody what you want,
I said, you should go with him.
And he, and he was cool about it.
Well, Sebastian Bach comes up early and often,
even though he wore that T-shirt at that time.
I'm going to play one more Dreams Jam that got Hansen, okay?
Although a bunch of big jams got Hansen because I'll do this one.
Oh, I thought of that.
I was going through my head all day.
I'm going to play this one.
And then I'm going to thank some partners.
You play this.
Are you in the Tobaccoe yet?
I go to the washroom.
You go pee.
Yeah, I'm pretty close.
Okay.
So this one here.
Dream, dream, dream, dream, dream in my arm and cheer.
And all your charms will.
Whenever I want you, all I have to do is dream.
This song got Hansen.
Everly Brothers.
Oh, he's here.
Okay.
Well, hang up because you're echoing now.
Okay.
Rob Proust is in the basement, everybody.
So let me just tell...
You got to hang up now.
Thank you.
Okay.
I want to thank the...
Oh, Team Sebastian said they were not interested in appearing on Toronto mic,
but would let us know if they changed their mind.
So there's an example of...
somebody who said yes. No, Team Sebastian.
No, it was D. Snyder that said yes
to Bob, not Sebastian Bach.
Okay, Sebastian Bach did consider
his invitation
to our mic. So, while you get
sorted there, Mr. Proust,
you are open, yeah.
It's around the corner because I had to
move it for Nick Aini's.
So, let me say this quickly.
November 28
at noon, noon to 3pm.
November 28 is a Saturday.
We are all collecting
at Palma's Kitchen
for TMLX-24
and Palma pasta will feed you
I'll bring fresh Great Lakes beer
Tie the Christmas guy
is bringing a very special
festive gift
a retro festive gift
if you will
you're going to love it
I want to say thank you
to Ridley Funeral Home
for your continued support
love working with Brad Jones
on Life's Undertaking
which has theme music by Rob Proust
checking one two one two one two
There you are, boy, guy.
There you are.
Why do I sound so,
why does he sound clearer than me?
Maybe you're too close to the mic,
but you're both at the same settings.
I don't know.
All right.
You always sound good to me.
No, no, that's all right.
You should be the same.
I'm sounding like humble Howard right now.
Yeah, that's true.
He's always,
yeah, so loud.
Okay.
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So we're going to get right into it, okay?
Proust, I don't even want to know
anymore.
I just want you to say some words
before I kick out your first jam.
Just kick it.
Are you a Beastie boy?
Kick it.
I'm glad this one didn't get Hansen.
That's a Karma Citra.
Thank you.
It's now year-round.
Karma Citra is now year-round.
Get in there, big guy.
Rob, I can't wait to tell you
how I discovered this song.
Talk to me about cheap trick.
Cheap Trick.
Dream Police.
This was their second album,
fourth studio.
It was the fourth album.
But they released some albums
before they really broke through
because it was the live of Budaccon album,
which was the one that sort of put them on the radio.
I saw them open for Kiss when I was 11.
Oh, wow.
And I didn't know who they were.
This was 1977.
And we saw them at Kitchener Memorial Auditorium.
And my friend and I were like with binoculars
at the back on the floor
looking at the bass drum going,
who's cheap trick?
So we had no idea.
do who they were. So like two years later, year later, when they started busting through,
was amazing. So this was like their, probably their follow-up to the Boudicom album. And it's
such a good power pop sound. This whole, this late 70s kind of vibe, you know. It's got good
keyboards. It's got just good guitars. I don't know. It's got everything. Bob Wittlet,
were you at Moulson Park and Barry for the 1998 Pearl Jam concert? Of course I was.
Because these were the openers. Yes. No, really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, cheap trick open for them.
That's the only time I've seen them like.
And I, yeah, I saw, and then I was at Madison Square Garden, and Rick Nielsen came out and played with them as well.
Nice.
Yeah, and my first interview at 94-9 The Rock was with Rick Nielsen.
Was it really?
Yeah, I have all, I have a bunch of picks of his.
And do you want to know how I discovered this song?
How?
Since you asked, so kindly.
Fast Times at Ridgemont High.
Oh.
Mike DeMone, was that his name?
He was trying to sell those cheap trick tickets, and he started singing songs, Dream Police, Surrender.
He was going through all these cheap tricks.
songs and that's when I learned about Dream Police.
That's amazing. It's just a great song.
I don't know if it's amazing. Classic, well, classic
late 70s song. Fast Times at Ridgemont High
is amazing, too. Hey, you didn't shave.
No, Scruffy. I see him? I know. He's been driving
since 10 o'clock this morning.
No, it wasn't that really. You woke up today in the
United States of America, right? I did. Get the fuck out of
my basement. See you later. Yeah,
no. Um, uh,
this, oh, listen, turn it up a little.
Oh, it sounds like
live and let die.
That's not that big, yeah
You were young
And your heart was an open bird
That's kind of
That's like psycho strings
Yeah, very much
I love that
It's so cool
It's so different
I like the song
Yeah, love it
So my
Way better than his Elvis cover
Yeah, sure
Play my second fun fact
Because my second little track
Because it's just a little clip
Of the thing
I'm sure you know
Oh I know
It was also one of my early
thoughts when you mentioned
the dream police
they live inside of my bed
the dream police
come to me and my head
the dream police
they're going to direct me now
it's just
it's literally loop for hours
it's literally loop for seven minutes
yeah you want to just keep listening
it's great no because this is a white man
doing a self-nage accent
you've offended my sensibilities
a character named Apu
I know you know
It's very funny, though.
Not everybody knows.
No, I know.
It's true.
Harry, what's his name?
No, no, that's Frank Azaria.
Hank Azaria.
Frank Azari.
Frankiz area.
Harry was close.
Hank Azari.
Yeah, Hank Azare.
Yeah, there you go.
Oh, RIPA.
RISD.
Ridley Funerals.
So there's a slight...
I love the Frank Grimes episode.
There's a slight FOTM connection to Cheap Trick.
I discovered through going backwards to discover this album.
I'm listening.
You have my attention.
The next track they have, so the producer of DreamPolice,
Police is a guy named Tom Wormon,
who produced a Canadian band
and a pretty big Canadian...
Triumph.
Hit play.
Oh, I don't have any more from you.
You sent me another one?
I don't have it.
Hold on.
Yes, I do.
I'm sorry, my apologies.
Yeah, I know.
Not triumph.
So he produced this?
He produced the album.
Yeah.
So his history, Tom Wormon,
his history with epic records.
Oh, and when we were at Massey Hall,
Jim Valance was there
Oh, right. Yes, he was.
He wrote, he wrote, don't forget me when I'm gone.
That's amazing.
Got his friend to do backup vocals.
Yep, that's right.
But I thought that was a weird connection to the Dream Police
to have this song.
So, okay, the producer of the Dream Police, that song is the producer of this song?
Of this album, yeah, Tom Wurman is his name.
Yep.
This is like last tiger's like third or four thousand.
Ever since I yelled at you, you've been better.
I know.
He's been way better.
You woke me up.
You know what I think Ty,
me an apology. Sometimes negative reinforcement
works. It always works. It always
works. Yeah, but it also breaks people.
No, but the most important thing is to have intrinsic
reinforcement for your own... But you knew you were
mailing it in? We talked about this in FOTM pass. No, I listened to it.
Thank you. I appreciate you. You're one of the ten.
Yeah. I appreciate the fact that
I didn't really give a shit about the Eurodance.
Yeah, you made it the topic. I should have put more work into it. No, I know.
And I'm sorry that I didn't put more work into it, but thank you for calling me out on it.
I appreciate it. I learned.
All right. What a good day this is. I'm glad you're here.
I'm glad you're here.
Any words, Bob Willett, before your first Dream Jam?
Dreams take all kinds of shapes.
Oh, I love this song.
Don't slap me now.
He's the DJ. I'm the rapper, 1988.
It's so good.
Interesting. So obviously this is DJ Jazzy Jeff and The Fresh Prince.
This is Will Smith.
is this very young-sounding voice there
in 88.
Was he like 22 or something?
Something like that, yeah.
I mean, that's not even their first album.
Their first album had Girls of the World.
That was 86.
Which album had parents just don't have...
This album did.
This album had that.
It was a big way.
It was on rap tracks.
That was the...
Yeah, I mean, that's really what put them on the map,
you know, kind of internationally
and in pop music.
But this was interesting because I loved
slasher films when I was a kid.
And I loved DJ Jazzy Jeff
and The Fresh Prince.
So this came out.
And when you said dreamed, I was like, what about nightmares?
I went like, I was like, nightmares or dreams?
Of course.
So this came to mind.
It's so good.
Interesting about this.
So parents just don't understand what was the first single.
This actually made it to number 15 in the States.
Wow.
A little fun fact.
There are two versions of this.
The CD couldn't fit it.
So it's got the single edit, but the tape has the full six-minute version.
Yeah, it's crazy.
So there's a single version out there.
there's a six and a half minute or a 609 version.
Of course, the big sample is the guy who wrote.
Oh, Halloween?
Yeah, no, no, the nightmare on Elm Street.
Craven.
West Craven.
No, West Craven.
Who I, by the way, I have met.
And he was on the Humboldened Fred show.
Wow.
And no, Charles Bernstein is the composer of the theme from,
which is my mind blow, if you want to hear just the original of what it sounded like.
But it was originally, they thought this was going to be on Nightmarendel Street 4.
Wow.
So that's Reddy Rock C in the background doing the voice of Robert England, who plays Freddie.
It's a great song.
It's fun.
I always love it.
So, but they ended up not using it.
And then they sued DJ Jazz and Jeff in the Fresh Prince for using the sample without permission.
Really?
Yeah.
So then they took it off.
It never made it to, no, no, they never made it to the soundtrack.
they were going to use it on the soundtrack, then they didn't,
and then they went and sued them.
Oh, geez.
Yeah.
So this guy, Charles Bernstein,
let's hear of the original or like what the sample is.
I mean, if you've seen any of the nightmares.
Yeah.
It's very continuing in that tradition of Halloween and all those kind of things, right?
Yeah, Halloween, Psycho.
What's his name, Charles Bernstein?
Charles Bernstein.
So Charles Bernstein, listen to this.
This guy, he's, he was the president of the American Society of composers.
And he's won cable ace award.
I don't know. He was nominated for, in 1987, he won a daytime Emmy Award for a after-school special.
Little Miss Perfect.
Oh, wow.
What he did the music for?
He did the music for Sea Wolf.
Oh, wow.
Do you remember that television show?
Yep.
I do.
And, yeah, he did a whole bunch of stuff.
Like, very well known, but not like that level of John Williams known.
Yes.
This is weird.
Is this the one I sent you?
Yeah, like it's called movie theme dash nightmare on Elm Street.
I wouldn't get it from anywhere else.
It's got interesting sounds in it though.
Yeah.
It's like a real 80s thing.
Yeah, I'm just waiting for the,
dun, dun, dun, dun, don't.
You could sort of hear it.
That's sort of alluding to it.
Sorry, I.
Yeah, it totally is.
This is like the long version.
How long is this one?
This is the extended version.
Yeah.
This is the dance makes.
It's like four minutes.
Yeah.
There it is.
And then, yeah.
Anyways.
Anyways, you get the idea.
I'll fix it in post.
You don't do that.
I love it.
Who was here?
Ron James was here yesterday?
Ron was so good.
He was good, but he was doing the cold open.
And he stutter, you know, he's got these things he just goes into that he's memorized.
And he's stumbled and he goes, let's do that again.
Like, take two.
And I said, Ron, there's no such thing as a take two.
I'm trying to make.
You just got to keep going.
The main melodic notes for the piano is A, D-A, G-sharp, A, B,
C-A-B.
It's got it right there.
Yeah.
So.
Okay, good start here.
Yeah, yeah.
Because I used to collect the rap tracks compilations.
Yeah.
And DJ Jazzy Jeff and Fresh Prince were mainstays.
Yes.
Also of interest, when I went to the C&E band shell to interview Chuck D.
And I was watching Mishie Me with Chuck D.
On the bill was a DJ.
Jazzy Jeff. He was on the bill.
Really? Yep. Was he in between
acts and stuff? Or was he just coming out?
He was coming in between Mishie Me and
Public Enemy Radio.
Crazy. Jazzy Jeff is like,
I mean, he's a pioneer
in Scratch World. He's the reason why
DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince are still
okay to listen to. Still cool, because he's so cool.
I just think it's such fun music to listen to too.
At the time even. Like I was in Honeymoon Suite.
We were on tour in Europe. You were in Honeymoon suite?
Yeah. Well, a long time ago.
Did I ever tell you that story
but Honey & Sweet?
Tell me.
Okay.
So I was,
no.
I had that album,
the CD.
Like,
those were the days
when you didn't have,
you had like a little
car case in the CDs,
right?
I had DJ Jazzy Jeff.
I had skirty-pitty.
Everything but like rock and roll.
That's funny.
Johnny and the guys in the band
always thought it was funny
because I was younger than them in a year.
Yeah, yeah.
But listening to that kind of rap stuff,
I loved so.
Oh,
I was a huge.
Again,
for you even being young.
Yeah.
I was accessible.
That was like,
yeah,
like.
I mean,
87 is licensed to ill.
Yes.
And yeah, it was rap.
I'm not claiming that I was...
My DMC was already big.
86 was Raising Hell, which I had on cassette.
That was he.
86, 87.
86 was raising hell.
87 was licensed to ill.
And 88 was he's a DJ on the rapper.
And then you get to 89 and it's digital underground sex packets.
So like that for me, that I, that was it.
I loved all of the, that was those four albums, massive to me.
Wow.
Amazing.
Now I'm going to make sure this song doesn't get Hansen by
playing it right now, okay?
Maybe the greatest song ever
with the word dreams and the title.
Maybe.
I knew it was.
What was the song we were fucking around with earlier?
Oh yeah, slow hand.
Slow hand opens like this.
Maybe I'll play it later.
We were listening to Ella Langley
that's in Texas is slow hand.
Identical.
Really?
That's fine.
And this song literally is two notes.
That's why you're here.
I just remembered why you're here.
You know, you're not.
notes. Only two songs. Two notes for the whole song. Never changes. That in, uh, this is an America
horse with no name are the two that I know that are two court. Oh yeah. That, that's just for learning
guitar. Yeah. It's just two. Totally. I just played a remix of this actually. It's going to play
tomorrow night on the electric ballroom. A remix of this? Yes. Wow. Really good. Okay. I got some
mind blows about it. It still sounds so good. Yeah. It's ridiculous. That's why Pointer
sisters stole it for the opening.
This is a dream jam.
The Dreamiest Dreaming Jam.
That's why I'm kicking it out, brother.
Brother.
Here it comes.
Bees.
Okay, this is Dreams by Fleetwood Mac.
That voice you hear right now belongs to Stevie Nix.
It's from the Monster 1977 album Rumors.
Actually, she's not the only voice.
You hear Christine McVee and Lindsay Buckingham all the same time.
They layer those voices together.
It's so beautiful.
Those harmonies are magical.
It is the second single from Rumors,
and I'm going to tell you a fun fact
about how the first single from Rumors
applies to this particular song.
By the way, fun fact, maybe not that fun,
but this song actually was the third single in the UK,
second single in the United States and Canada.
Here's a mind blow.
You're sitting down?
In your mind right now, think of all the big Fleetwood Mac songs.
I mean, there's a bunch on rumors alone,
but think of all the big Fleetwood Mac songs.
Okay.
A bunch come in your mind, Rob Proust?
She's got at least two.
Ha!
Effortless to begin, like, five or six
Big Fleetwood Mac songs.
This is the only number one hit
for Fleetwood Mac in the United States of America.
This is the only number one hit.
The other rumors songs didn't go to number one.
Even those 80s ones?
Like, because I feel like they were part of that pop 80s era.
They had hits in the 80s,
and none of them went to over a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they never went to number one.
No.
So rumors, what's fun about rumors, for us kids, you need to revisit it.
Bob might remember in real time, but, you know, Bob,
Rob might remember in real time.
Bob and I have to go back into the archives.
But rumors, it's kind of amazing because, of course,
the members are going through, like, relationship upheavals.
Like, there's a lot of emotions flying around.
So, Mick Fleetwood, for example, is going through a divorce.
Christine McVee and John McVee are separated.
And of course, Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nix were ending their eight-year relationship.
But that's significance, okay?
So Stevie Nix writes this song in 10 minutes, according to her, 10 minutes about her breakup of Lindsay Buckingham.
Stevie Nix writes this, okay?
So while Stevie Nix is breaking up with Lindsay Buckingham, she writes this song.
And then Buckingham writes the first single release from Rumors.
You ready?
Really?
And this is also about the relationship.
So here's the Stevie Nix version of what was going down.
And here's the Lindsay Buckingham version.
It does sound great, doesn't it?
Yes.
I love this song.
I played this in a band when I was 11.
Okay, so Stevie Nix, Lindsay Buckingham,
breaking up, they're writing and recording rumors at the same time,
and they each write a song about the breakup.
These are the first two singles released from Rumors in the United States of America and Canada.
So this is Go Your Own Way, which came out in December.
number 76. It went to the top
10 in the U.S. Then comes Dreams
by Stevie Nix, the only number one
hit on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100
for Fleetwood Mac.
And the third single, shout out to
Bill Clinton. Don't
Stop! Which also went to the
top 10 in the U.S.
Do you guys watch SNL? You ever heard of S&L?
It's a... It's got some popularity.
They used to do a sketch called What's Up with that?
Kenyon Tonkins. Of course. Yeah. And Lindsay
Buckingham was always the guest. Bill Hayes.
He never says a word.
Yeah.
No, he's always sitting there and he never gets on.
Lins Buckingham.
It's great.
He's always up.
And then one time,
Lindsay was on the show with him.
Yeah, that's right.
What's up with that?
That's what I guess.
It's hilarious.
And Jesus Sivak is doing the dance with the tracksuits.
So this song, the drums for this song.
I want to get the right quote because I'm not a musician like Rob Bruce.
I want to get this right.
So when he was writing this song,
he was inspired by the drum feel of another big song,
you guys will know.
So we'll just play a little of that song here before.
Is it a beetle song?
No, but you're close.
Stones.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that's interesting.
You can go your own way.
Oh, yeah.
You can go everywhere.
You know, we talk a lot about deaths on this show.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral.
Whenever this happens, this will be a monster death.
I know McCartney's going to be a big death,
but I'm telling you, Mick Jagger is going to be a big fucking death when that one happens.
Think of the songs this band's produced.
Street Fighting Man.
Yeah.
just rediscovered, not right, I just got into
She's a Rainbow. I love that song.
Such a piano. Yeah. It was in an ad
campaign where the balls were going
down the hill. Do you remember colored balls?
No. Anyway, I don't know.
That's a great song. Again, just, I kind of
was listening again, I saw it.
They have so many albums like to rediscover and discover
for the first time, right? It's amazing.
Six years ago, gentlemen, there was a guy
named Nathan Apatoka.
He was going to work. He lived in
Idaho, and his truck broke
down. What's he going
going to do? Well, he grabbed his long board
and he filmed himself
cruising along, drinking ocean spray
cranberry juice and lip-sinking
Dreams by Fleetwood Mac.
And then he posted that clip to TikTok.
And this fucking song
had another life. It became a big hit
on digital channels like TikTok, etc.
So a lot of kids
discovered dreams by Fleetwood Mac
because of this guy's TikTok video.
That's true.
And it's a similar, it's similar to placement in a television show or a Netflix show now.
For sure.
Yeah.
If it goes, if it goes that way.
Yeah.
If it goes your way.
Leslie's trolling me on the live stream saying that all this info is well-knowing.
I'm phone-needed in.
Oh, man.
Leslie, I'm blocking you.
You know what?
And I gave you episode 1963.
And I'm full of regret now.
Full of regret here.
Let me just catch up quickly on the live stream.
of activity there. Tim Wormon
produced Twisted Sister.
Oh, yeah. As well. Okay.
Beastie Boys sampled
Cheap Trick on Jimmy James, which is the
first song from Check Your Head. Also,
the inspiration for the character on news radio
played by Stephen Root.
He was named after the song Jimmy James
by the Beastie Boys.
Okay, there's
some more here. I'm getting to it right now.
Producers considered using
this song. This is now referring to
Nightmare in Elm Street. No, Nightmare on My Street. Is that what it's called?
Producers considered using the song for the 1988 film A Nightmare on Elm Street for the Dreammaster,
but they ultimately decided against it and chose the Fat Boys, are you ready for Freddie instead?
I didn't know that part. I knew it was considered for number four, but...
I saw the Fat Boys, this is going to be the weirdest thing, but I saw the Fat Boys at Studio 54 one night doing a performance when I was like 17.
Shut up to Mike Myers.
The weirdest thing. I was in New York, like, visiting with one of our crew guys.
84?
Summer of 84.
And I don't know what they,
maybe they were just brand new at the time.
They would have been totally brand new.
At that time,
maybe this is a little earlier than I,
but they had a movie called Disorder Me.
Oh yeah, right.
That was like 86.
But still that would,
but they were out doing their thing.
I was in New York for a weekend.
It was like a music seminar thing.
And one of our crew guys was with me.
He was older,
he was chaperoning me around.
Yeah.
But we went to Studio 54.
Like it was like her after midnight.
Crazy.
And we just got in.
And I always remember Eddie Murphy was on the dance floor.
Get the,
And then all of a sudden, like, they were up on, like, the balcony.
Was Ashley McIsaac there?
No.
Yeah, I heard he was, though.
He told me he was.
Apparently.
No.
You better work.
You better work.
That's crazy.
I know.
I always think about how weird.
So what's crazy is I thought, like, that studio 54 was still going that
strong where and Eddie Murphy would go in 84.
80, Eddie Murphy's at that time.
He's SNL, Eddie Murphy.
But after midnight and with even if you're-
You only did one season of SNL?
Really?
Don't you feel like we talk about it like it was more than one season?
He also only did two specials.
Really?
Oh, delirious and raw.
That's it.
Wow.
I'm giving away tickets to Eliza Schlesinger, who I love.
I think she's a very funny standard crew.
She's had seven.
Wow.
But he had two.
That's crazy.
And they all, and the leather, like they, he, the red leather.
The red leather.
Yeah.
Blue in the first one.
Red in the first one.
Like he is considered one of the greatest, if not the great, you know, one of
greatest comedians of all time, entertainers all time.
He had two.
That's unbelievable.
Two.
That's it.
Yeah.
Say, where is raw before your second jam, because Bob's got a big party to go to go to him.
Oh, yeah.
Stop it.
Um, I think you can just...
Wait a minute.
You can just play it.
No less than my lady wants of herself.
You add some measure of grace to the world.
To follow the quest.
What does that mean?
Quest.
Why, it is the mission of each true knight.
His duty.
May his privilege
to dream the end.
impossible dream
To fight the unbeatable foe
To bear
With unbearable sorrow
To run
Where the brave dare not go
To ride to the unrightable wrong
I'm quickly fact-checking myself
Apparently Eddie was a cast member from 80 to 84
Why did I think he was only there one year?
How come none of you corrected me?
I trust me implicitly.
I did trust you.
I thought you were wrong.
I am in my apologies.
I was too young for Estenel back then.
This is my quest to follow that star.
No matter how hopeless, no matter how far.
Okay.
Start playing my second track, actually,
and I'll talk about the song.
I'm a bad musical fan.
Is this Fiddler or Mano LaMacha?
No, it's Mano Lamcha.
Okay, I was like, which is it?
Yeah.
So this is Man of LaMacha.
That was Richard Kylie on the Ed Sullivan show in 1966.
Oh, wow.
Wait, so this is a Broadway musical called Man of LaMonts.
Man of LaMontia based on the famous novel, yes, by Miguel Cervantes.
I know that song, but I never knew how I knew that song.
You just know it was from Mano LaMancho?
Yeah.
Well, it's the kind of song that it sort of exists in the world.
I don't even really know much about Man of LaMontcha.
I knew it was either Mano La Manta or a fiddler.
Yeah, yeah. That song is existing in the world.
It's just in the world. And if you go to Spotify, which I did, there's like a thousand versions.
And they're all so good because it's a, the song, it speaks for itself.
There's one melody. It sort of is one way to do it. Elvis did a great crazy, like, live version, of course.
So this recording here is the Smothers Brothers on the Ed Sullivan. Yeah, they really can. Yeah.
And it's, it sort of goes on for a while because, of course, they turn it into a bit of a bit.
Well, do you want me to skip a bit because it goes on for a long bit?
Yeah. You can skip them through a little bit. Sure.
Go back a little bit.
There.
Is it crazy?
Do you understand?
Yeah.
Do you feel it?
I hear it.
What does it say?
What does it say?
It feels, says...
Yes.
Yes, it's coming.
Tell me.
What does it do?
It says...
Come on, Tommy.
Now, what does this song say to you?
It says, to fight.
Right.
To fight.
To go to hell and fight for a heavenly cause.
No, no way.
To fight in hell for a cause.
No, it doesn't say that.
To reach an unbeatable star.
No, no.
I thought you know what it was.
To go to hell and fight a foe full.
Now, come on, cut this.
It's the cause.
No, no, you don't even know what it is.
This song says, you're partially right.
It says to fight for what you believe in.
That's the key.
It doesn't say, just go around fighting.
Fight for what you believe in.
Fight for the right.
Have the personal integrity and strength.
No matter what the odds.
Now, what the odds to fight for what you believe in, telling you.
Like Moses.
Moses, that's right.
Moses, you led the Hebrews out of Egypt into the land of milk and money.
Wow.
No, there is five more minutes.
Yeah, I know, it's okay.
But very funny.
That's funny.
It's funny.
Mother's brothers cover it and they make it very comedic.
There's not, other than being 10,000 covers and versions of the song, there
wasn't a lot of other sort of like fun kind of things to play.
And I thought this was the closest I could get because they always did this kind of stuff
on variety shows in the 60s.
Yeah.
You know.
So you, this is your Broadway.
I go Broadway later, but not like, I don't, do you go Broadway again or no.
No.
No, okay.
So, my, I was going to do, I dream to dream.
Oh, yes.
Of course.
And of course.
From Le Miz.
And from Mamma Mia, I have a dream.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, I got, I had so many dream things.
I was like, ah.
I had so many dreams.
Yeah.
Did you know Eddie Murphy was a teenager when he joined Saturday Night Live?
I did know that.
No.
19 years old.
Wow.
Yeah.
I did know that.
Thank you to the VP for, uh, wild.
So as Jeremy Hopkins says in the live stream, the spirit of Robert Lawson is strong.
He lives in all of us.
Okay, good stuff here, Rob Bruce.
It's fun.
It's fun.
You're fun.
There's so many dreams.
songs. Like I'm happy to know that you play
a few Hansen tunes as well.
Well, there's a lot of dreams songs.
Was it Denise Will.
Who was, Dreams can come true.
This Gabrielle.
Gabriel.
Gabriel.
Oh, wow.
Dreams can come true.
Am I right?
Which was all over Top 40 radio.
Huge. And also on a much dance
of some sort.
Am I right that that's in Magnolia?
Possibly. I have to Google that one.
I can't get fact checked too many times in one episode.
So seeing as we're talking about Broadway just quickly,
I want to play a bit for you that I did on
the air.
Chuned in with the Bluetooth?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's how we had you on the phone.
Oh, really?
So, um, uh, the karate kid, the musical just opened here, the Mervish.
And I thought, like, look, I love the Mervish people.
They can send me tickets anytime they want.
I love musicals.
Uh, but I just don't, I think it's a step too far.
Uh, I don't think we need a, so I wrote this and I, and I improvised this basically.
I edited it together and I played it on the radio the other day.
And I, I, I think it's funny.
It's an old school radio bit.
Let's take a listen.
Let's take a listen.
Let's take a listen.
Brought to you by the makers of Karate Kid the Musical.
It's more unnecessary 80s movies musical edition.
Like Stand By Me.
Hey, you guys want to go see a dead body?
Yeah, a dead body.
Gonna go see a dead body with my friends.
Gonna go see a dead body with my friends.
And who could forget that.
The 1980s classic The Goonies!
You're going to live with me now.
Yeah?
Chalooch!
Guys!
Yeah!
And who could forget
that 1980s classic
My Girl, the musical
that does not feature My Girl
The Song. I'm sorry, Veda. There were just
too many bees.
Yeah, now he's in that one.
Where's his glasses?
He needs his glasses.
Do you know the scene?
Yeah.
Where's his glasses?
Thomas Jay needs his glasses.
Unnecessary 80s musicals.
Just like your childhood.
I forgot what channel you were actually.
Bringing you down.
I'm like, I'm not going to.
Did you play that on Indy 88?
I did at 9.30 on Wednesday night.
No way.
Yeah, I got the idea and I just started, I literally went and I found license-free
instrumental music.
I literally Googled musicals, you know, musicals sounding.
license free music that I could just download
I just downloaded a bunch and I literally
just improvised over the
lyrics and recorded at the same time
or over the music and I just did that
and then I spliced it all together
and it's a little too long but I was
good oh thank you and things are going well at Indy88
they are they are going quite well
the numbers are great right now and
I'm having a really good time I just I haven't
done a bit like that in a long time
it's got me thinking I just I love
doing that stuff so creative it is
I'm going to fact check somebody on the live
stream.
Sure.
Then we'll get right back to you.
But VP is saying Dan Aykroyd held a door for Mike at a restaurant in Yorkville.
It wasn't actually Yorkville.
It was on Avenue Road, uh, fancy restaurant.
Why would VP get that wrong?
Yeah, it wasn't Yorkville.
Was it avandav up there?
No, but the name I'll know when I hear it, but one of those fancy,
one of those restaurants on Avenue Road that would have Dan Aykroyd holding a door for you.
That's nice.
I met, I met Dan Aykroyd when he was releasing one of his crystal head vodkas.
He was very, very nice guy.
There's a picture.
of me talking to him,
uh,
that has signed some,
yeah,
yeah,
like he was,
he's a really,
he was great.
As soon as I,
he found out that I was doing work in Kingston.
Yeah.
Because I think I was,
I was,
programming in Kingston.
He was very,
very nice.
Wow.
Yeah,
was great.
And he plays,
I believe he played a funeral director.
He was a funeral director in that movie.
And his daughter was Veda Salton Fuss.
And his girlfriend was Jamie Lee Curtis.
Wow.
Yeah.
And, uh,
yeah,
the,
anyways,
I had,
I had people calling into the station saying how much,
like,
one person said,
they almost threw up laughing because it was just so ridiculous,
which I love.
I love making people laugh.
It's good to get engagement from the listenership.
It happens on the reg on that station.
It's pretty great.
That's cool.
Yeah, very involved.
But anyways,
I just,
I haven't done a bit like that in a long time and I felt I was so.
It is like a humble and Fred type.
It's a very humble and Fred bit.
Yeah.
It's very old school.
We're scary Pete when you need it.
That's exactly the kind of thing scary Pete would have come up with.
All right.
Now,
even when they launched the podcast,
they still had scary Pete doing stuff.
I don't know where that all went.
I ran into scary Pete like three.
like three, four months ago.
And then, but I, my, I, I've lost all content.
His daughter is a musician and was working with Biff Naked for a long time.
That's right.
Yeah.
And did play, I think she's saying at the, a recent Christmas thing we did at Kelsey's.
Oh, cool.
Humble and Fred.
And, uh, he coached soccer in the high park FC.
Oh, wow.
And, uh, I'd, I'd see him at Rennie Park, for example, or high park.
It's Gary Pete's one of them.
He's creative guy.
And also, he makes, oh, Peter Bloom.
Peter, yeah, Peter Bloom was his, uh, his, his, his,
name online. I don't know if it still is.
Anyways. Yeah, he released albums as
Peter Bloom. Yes. And he's also
the voice of, uh, he does voice work.
He does, he's the voice of the shreddys.
Shreddys, yeah, or the shredded wheat. Yeah. And then, uh,
also on, Pop Patrol. He's on, he's on, yeah.
Look at this. Look at that.
Shout out. Pete Cuneo fun fix. Scary boldheaded Pete. Okay.
You're ready for your second jam, Boba let? Yeah, I, I, I, I handsome
myself with, I was going to do, uh, Everly Brothers dream that you played earlier.
I was going to do, I, I, I, I handsome, I handsome, I handsome, handson
myself for this weird song, this random song.
St. Louis.
Right, country grammar man.
Country grammar man.
And it's Nelly.
That's Nelly.
That's really cool.
You know what?
When you hear what the sample is, you'll understand why it's so cool.
What's the name of the song?
Just a dream.
Just a dream.
And it's really his last kind of hit.
Okay.
I like it.
2010, it came out.
You know, you've got to remember, you know, like country grammar came out in 2000,
which, you know, and ride with me.
That's a good 10 years into his career.
Nelly still has a following.
I don't know.
I've always liked his music,
but then again,
I really like,
I like poppy hip-hop.
But see,
I can't tell from this
what's the sample,
but I just know
there's something in there
that sounds really cool.
Yes.
And you're going to find out of words.
So this number 10,
I think he went to number 15
on the billboard charts.
Yeah.
Not,
that was top 10.
It made a top 10.
But, I mean,
he's had four number one hits.
Hot in here,
dilemma, shake your tail feather,
and grills.
But that was with,
P. Diddy, the shake-a-tail feather, but ride with me, country grammar, E-I, E-I, huge, huge hits.
Amazing.
I've always been a fan. He's not some hardcore hip-hop artist. He's a pop guy.
But when you hear the sample on this song, which we can play next, that'll be your mind-blown.
We can, anyways, when I thought about dream songs, this came to mind.
It's cool. I really like it.
Mm-hmm.
You can totally hear it, right?
100%.
Oh, 100%.
Surge Gainesburg.
Wow.
Yeah.
So somebody heard this.
The producer, like, heard this and goes,
I'm going to turn that into it.
Variations,
Suror Marilu from 1976.
Serge Gainesville.
You totally hear it.
I'm desperately trying to find the name of the restaurant,
Dan Aykwood held a door for me.
And I can tell you who paid for me.
that meal, because I couldn't afford to eat at this place,
was Warren Chappelle?
Was he wearing gloves when he held open the door, though?
Yeah, really.
Because does it count if he was wearing gloves?
I don't think he was wearing gloves.
No, I don't think so.
Wintertime, he had gloves on.
It wouldn't be the same.
No, he wasn't wearing gloves.
He was inside.
Okay, good.
Oh, he was in.
So I could come in.
Warren Chappelle was pain.
He started, I don't know if you know,
the employment assistance program,
Chappelle?
Oh, yeah.
Those guys.
So Warren Spel
founded that company
and then he sold it for big bucks
and he did another company
I worked for
and he took us out to this
he had a lot of money
and he took us to this place
on Avenue Road
and the name will come to me
is it Soto Soto Soto?
I said Soto Soto is the first one I mentioned.
Now I thought when I heard it
I would remember it
and now I'm less confident
but in that movie you saw
Rob Pruce
that I talked to Jane Eastwood
about you had to be there.
Yeah your conversation was good
the film was good.
They talked about that
address on Avenue Road
where all of those people would get together.
That house.
So I don't know if Ackroyd was part of that group?
Nobu. It wasn't Nobu, was it?
That wasn't around then when you would have done that.
It wasn't Nobu.
This is like 2007 era, if you will.
So maybe it is Soto Soto.
I think it's Soto Soto.
It might be Soto.
That's like Drake's place.
Drake loves that place.
I can see Drake and Ackroyd hanging out there.
Okay. Good call here, Bob, on finding this sample.
I didn't know.
I don't care. Nellie's a guy. I loved country grammar and then everything after that felt too poppy in a lost interest.
But he was a big deal that when I went to see Manny Pachio fight with Monica, this guy was singing before the Pacquiao fight, Nellie.
Oh yeah, you give Nell enough money. He'll show up to the opening of a box.
That's what I hear. That's what you might come to TMLX-24.
There you go.
Just for the pasta. So I can't play all this. I'm trying to make a call on the line of scrimmage here.
Okay, I'm going to play my second dream song.
It sure is Weezer.
How's your Karma Citra, Rob?
It's really good.
I never had this before.
Is it new?
Well, no, it's usually seasonal, but now it's year-round.
Yeah, digging it.
Very nice.
This is the longest song in the Weezer catalog.
It chimes in at seven minutes and 59 seconds.
It's called Only in Dreams, and it is the final track on their self-titled debut album,
which many of us called the Blue album.
If you heard episode
1978 with Andy Pandy
kicking out the jam,
she kicked out another song
from the Blue album.
And I went on with her
about how much I fucking love this album.
I still love it.
I love the blue album by Weezer.
What's the name of the song?
Only in Dreams.
It's really cool.
I mean, just that opening
just going on was really beautiful.
Rick Ocasic.
Of course.
He produced every song on this album.
And speaking of Rick, I'm going to give you a fun fact.
I might have to skip ahead because it's very long.
But this song is different than any other Weezer song you ever heard
because it's got this three-minute crescendo where there's three guitars,
there's bass and drums.
I'm going to skip ahead to that and then talk about Rick O'Kasek for a moment.
Okay, we skipped ahead, everybody.
Just to give you a taste of what we're talking about in this song.
We're now five minutes and 20 seconds into only in dreams.
So 90s.
Just a bass going on, right?
Harvey Danger.
I've talked about, they do.
This part coming up was inspired by Fish.
Oh, okay.
Shout out to Canada Cove.
It's really cool.
Close with it.
The last song before the encore.
You can off YouTube to that.
Yeah, maybe.
Keep talking.
I do.
So River Cuomo said that all of the songs,
for the Blue album
kind of had
lengthy jams
at the end
because they didn't
really have any
endings to their
songs.
It was Rick O'Kasick
who basically had
them shorten
their songs
that have normal ending.
Like if you think
of a Weezer song
in the Blue album,
they're like
quick and they don't
have anything
that resembles the ending
to that song
we just heard,
which is called
Only in Dreams.
But Rick O'Kaysick
basically told
Rivers Cuomo
you don't,
you, to put that guitar solo at the end
to let it do what it does there
in like eight minutes long.
So it's just interesting to me
that Rico Kasick of the cars
who had them short in all the endings
of their songs basically
encouraged them to Weezer
to keep Only in Dreams
as the one song on the Blue album
where they're basically a jam band.
It was the coolest thing
I've ever heard from Weezer.
I need to listen to that album.
Even better than Buddy Holly
with the Happy Days video.
Yeah. I mean, I love the video.
but that's honestly like that makes me want to listen to the whole album and I just looked on Spotify
There's like a bunch of versions of that one song like rehearsing and extended versions and stuff
The only thing that's good about Buddy Holly is what's with these omies dissing my girl being the opening line
That's the bad I love it. What's with these homies? It's on the Windows 95 CD. Is it really?
Can I tell you a Rick Ocacic story? Of course. That's why we're hearing Rickle Kasich right now everybody
When we were with a spoon when I was with Spoons and we were touring with Culture Club opening across America
we played in Boston
and like everybody
and every time we went to
everybody was coming to see Boy George
because we're like huge
what's the deal with this guy
we want to see what's going on
and Rick O'Casek was
we played this club in Boston
and I always remember being on stage playing
and Rick was in the back of the club
like standing there
like you could see him
oh yeah he was eight feet tall
in the back of the club
with sunglasses on
looking like Rickokakesh
yeah looking like checking out like watching our set
and I thought holy fuck there's Rickohe
back there watching us
nice that was really cool
so that video is very popular
for Buddy
Holly, but can you guys close your eyes and see
the video for this song?
This video is flying around or whatever.
1986.
It's like Susan Gallagher's the model.
It's me like a fly?
Yeah.
This is the first
the winner of the MTV Video
Music Award for Video of the Year.
That's amazing.
Do you know who produces this song?
Produced it?
Roy Thomas Baker?
No.
You ready for this?
Yep.
Mutt Lang.
Oh, there you go.
Mutt Lang.
Produces this song
and then Rico Kasich
produces Weezer.
That's cool.
One of the first videos
to use computer graphics.
Yeah, you know what's funny
right around that time,
my band honeymoon suite
before I joined the band
at that same time.
You were in Honeymoon Suite?
Yeah, I'll tell you the story.
They had a song called Feel It Again
was the first single off their second album.
And the video was similar to that car.
I remember that Feel It Again?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the video was like...
Feel it again.
Exactly.
Did you record that one?
I joined just after that.
They were touring for that out.
Was that used in like NHL Playoff?
Probably.
commercials or few of the game maybe okay
here were the three singles
that came off of the blue album you ready this is
more for Bob than for Rob here but
the first single of course was undone
the sweater song not a parenthesis
jam this is June 1994
the second single was Buddy Holly
and the third single was
Say it ain't so
but the whole album's a play through
can't recommend it highly enough
I can't wait to listen it's a big album
It's a big fucking album here okay
So, what is your final jam, Robert Proust?
Well, you're going to have to play it to find it.
Oh, it sounds like a threat.
Oh, it's a hoaryl.
This was his first solo song, his first solo album,
1986 called Dreamtime, called Three Hearts in the Happy Ending Machine.
He needs oats.
Yeah, but this was sort of a big hit.
This was his, like maybe his only solo hits.
1986.
Yeah, but this is a song, until the,
I didn't recognize it.
I knew it right from the beginning.
Did you?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
But I was like, oh, so I don't know it.
I know.
You could have picked you make my dreams come true.
I never thought of that.
Yeah.
Just now, yeah.
I literally thought you make my dreams come true.
Get out of my dreams.
Get out of my dreams. Get into my car by Billy Ocean.
I was like all these dream songs just as hitting me.
I think that's a mutling.
Get out of my dreams.
Probably.
Probably.
So this is, this is screaming 80 soundtrack to me.
Oh, I know.
Totally.
But what I found interesting.
So I thought about the title.
Dream Time, because he's, so Dreamtime is the thing that I've read about.
It's actually Australian cosmogony.
So I wanted to read this little thing to you.
So for the Aboriginal people in Australia, the Dream Time or the Dreaming, which was
a K-Bush album, it's an ancestral era in which spiritual beings shaped the landscape, gave rise
to life, and established the sacred laws that continue to guide the world.
This narrative reveals a profound connection between the land, the ancestors, and collective
memory.
I fucking love that shit.
That's beautiful.
But do you think Daryl Hall?
Not at all.
No, no, no.
But Dream Time,
dream time is the term.
Right.
That they talk about
the Australian average.
Right.
Okay.
It's not his song at all.
Nobody kicked out Dreamweaver.
No Dreamweaver.
I let it go.
Is Dream On coming up for you?
I don't know.
Maybe.
Okay.
But I have a little,
I have a little,
I have a fun,
extra song for this
because this song reminded me
of another song.
I was like,
what does this remind me?
Play this chorus for a sec?
Oh,
Turn up or one.
Just turn this up for one sec.
Okay, okay, okay, hold on.
Then I got to turn that one.
Okay, stand by now.
It's a little bit like a Beatles kind of thing, right?
Sort of.
Sort of.
So it reminded me of another song.
So take this down.
Take it down, take it down.
He's doing it.
It's the same kind of baseline.
So I took Daryl Hall and I slowed him down.
Oh, here's Dary Hall.
but it's also
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah.
Wasn't that a Beatles song backwards?
No, it's like, well, it's like
Hello, goodbye
The Seeds of Love.
Wasn't that a...
It's Beatles-esque.
But Dreamtime came before
sewing the seeds of love.
Isn't it I Am the Walrus backwards
or does that have like an urban legend?
So Darrell Hall sort of predates,
he predates
Tears for Fears by like three years.
Yeah, because that was 90, wasn't it?
It was 89.
Yeah,
yeah.
Yeah.
I like that
Tears for Fear for your song.
I do too.
I actually just,
I came on to something
and I was thinking about you
because I found a bunch of stuff
from post that album,
The So In The Seeds the Love album.
I think it's elemental.
And like there's some real hidden gems.
Oh yeah.
From,
from Tears for Fears that I didn't,
that weren't hits.
And there's one of the guys left.
They broke up.
Kurt left.
Kurt left.
But there's a,
the tipping point.
And 22 they came out.
They do a cover.
Oh, no, it's not the tipping point.
One of them, they do an arcade fire cover.
Oh, I did know.
It's so good.
Wow.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I'll have to, I played it on the, uh, I played it on the electric
ballroom.
Did you?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm a huge, endless, timeless tears from here.
Oh my gosh.
There's so many stuff, so much stuff.
I was only up to sewing seeds of love.
Yeah.
It's really all I knew, but there's so much good stuff.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
And I could hear that with that for sure.
Uh-huh.
Okay.
Okay. So, we should shout out the electric ballroom.
When can people hear it?
Electric ballroom happens Saturday nights on Indy88 and go to
Ind 88.com, listen there, or listen on Radio Player Canada,
if you're looking up Ind 88.
It's 8 p.m. to 11 p.m. every Saturday night,
a mix show.
I mix, I pick everything.
I do everything myself.
I mix it.
I host it.
It's a DJ show that really, it's open-ended.
I can play whatever I want.
I've never been told.
You're the last DJ in the country.
You can play whatever you want.
Well, you know what?
No, DJ Danny D.
on Z 103, he can still do what he wants.
And I think there's a guy on G90,
the old G987 on flow.
Flow, yeah.
Yeah, I think there's, there's a couple guys,
but not many.
And I can go totally off format.
That's what CFNY was, right?
I mean, we were talking about that.
In the beginning, that's all it was.
So you know what I,
so I'll tell you something,
one that I've pre-recorded.
It's not going to play this weekend.
But I just, I got this,
I played ABC Poison Arrow into
Johnny Hates Jazz Shattered Dreams.
Yes.
Because I was like, I don't know, they just hit me.
And I go into this whole mix of stuff.
Because those are great songs.
Nobody hears them anymore.
And people are going to, and you don't need to hear them that much anymore.
No.
But you're like, here next.
Yeah.
So that's the kind of thing you can hear.
Plus all kinds of remixes.
Like I said, there's a dreams remix I'm playing.
Dave Edwards is the name of the guy who remixed it.
That's amazing.
I have so much fun putting it together.
But of course, I'm also on all day, Saturdays and Sundays, 12 noon to 6 p.m.
You went tomorrow?
Yeah.
Oh, geez.
12 noon to 6 p.m.
You work hard for the money
So hard
It's not that hard
It's I'm very lucky to do it
You still have to go in
Well not for electric ballroom
Maybe
No,
you gotta go into the building
I do
Oh I'm in there like six hours live
Tomorrow from noon to six
Yeah,
I think that's hard
But it's cool for electric ballroom
You can create it yourself
Yes
And they just put it in
I just hand it to them
Yeah
I hand it to them
With the track listing
Wow
And off we go
Wow
Yeah it's so much fun
I love doing it
And if you're like
I'd love feedback on it
I just
I try to play everything
I have a question
about, so if I'm listening to radio
and you know when you're in the car or whatever,
the tracks will come up, like the names will come up.
No, because I...
But when you do indie ballroom, it doesn't come up, right?
See, that's cool.
We have a station in my new hometown of Kingston, New York.
And my favorite local station,
they play such good music, but it never shows the name.
You'll have to Shazam them.
I love Shazam them.
You're glad it doesn't show up.
Yeah.
You like the mystery.
He likes the mystery of it.
I like being able to just Shazam it and go,
if it matters to me, I shazam the shit out of it.
So you like the fact you have to go to a different
Yeah.
Who cares?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's fun.
If you're in the States now,
you have to VPN.
What a positive element.
Yeah, yeah.
We're blocked in the States now.
So you're in Kingston.
You're Kingston, New York.
Because Bob worked in Kingston.
That's right.
Different Kingston.
Different Kingston.
Yep.
Not Jamaica.
That's amazing.
That's right.
Oh, I like that too.
Well, and I've never been to the town.
Any words before your final jam, Bob Willett?
This has been one of my audition songs.
Oh, wow.
Oh.
Didn't even think about it.
I dreamed.
I met her Galilean.
A most amazing man.
He had that look you very rarely find.
What kind is that?
The haunting, haunted kind.
You two are so like-minded with this stuff.
I asked him to say what had happened.
He said it all began.
I asked again.
He never said a word.
Did he hear you?
As if he hadn't heard.
And then the Jesus thing, right?
And next, the room was full of wild and angry men.
This ain't no gods bell.
They seemed to hate this man.
And then they fell on him and then.
Then what?
Disappeared again.
Would you hear it?
Then I saw
Thousands of millions
Crying for this man
And then I heard them
mentioning my name
And leaving me
The blame
That's it
One minute and 30
Do you want me to roll into this next jam?
Yeah sure
Obviously that's from Jesus Christ Superstar
That is Barry Denon
who did it in the...
Yep.
But this is from 1993.
And this, I saw a production of Jesus Christ Superstar with Ted Neely,
Carl Anderson, and this man playing Punch's Pilot.
I was at that show too.
It was at the O'Keefe Center.
Oh.
This was in Toronto.
It was at the O'Keefe Center.
It was a touring production.
Yeah, yeah.
And this is, he's the reason why Larry Galen has a job still.
It's...
I'd dream.
Dennis,
It was magical when he's saying it, right?
Like, it's the voice of sticks.
So what's the song called?
It's called Pilots Dream.
And, of course, Punches Pilots,
the guy who puts Jesus to death.
You know, I was raised Catholic?
You know, I don't know if you know that.
There's this thing called the Bible.
And it was Jesus.
I went to Catholic schools.
So did I.
Did you?
Yeah.
I know that?
I was to say, Pat's high school in a man.
That you're a heathen.
I am a heathen, but I went to him.
You too.
Yeah, so this is, uh,
This is actually on a solo album.
That's amazing.
What's interesting, to me, when he's sang it in the show,
he sang the key.
This is like a hierarchy for him.
But when he's singing in the show,
he sang the actual original, yeah.
I think I remember that.
You did Manna Lamontch, what was called?
You did something from Jesus Christ Superstar.
I was going to do Les Mizz.
I dreamed a dream.
I was going to do Mamma Mia.
You guys love your fucking Broadway stuff.
Very much so.
Love it.
And I was...
Doing Cam never kicked out Broadway.
Yeah, because you know what, they're not cultured.
Yeah, come on.
We were more likely to get songs from the wrestling album than we were.
You know what?
We could do that again still because I wait to hear my theme for the next time we're out.
Okay, very good.
You're learning because all I know is what's the buzz, tell me what's that happening?
That's like all I know.
I've never seen, Jesus Christ.
That production, that touring production was supposed to have Irene Kara as.
I saw her in it too.
Now that you say that.
But you wouldn't have seen it in Canada.
or at least not in Toronto
because she couldn't get across the border.
No way.
She had something on her.
I feel like I saw the production with Dennis DeYoung and Ted and Carl at the Danforth
Music Hall.
No,
there was no Dennis DeYoung in that one.
Are you sure?
Yes, because I was at that one too.
Of course.
Who was the dead?
It was Ted Neely and.
And Carl?
Carl wasn't there in that one.
Okay,
but I saw the one with Dennis as well.
That was O'Keefe Center.
That was O'Keefe Center.
But the last, the one of the one of Danforth Music Hall was the one where they had the big
blow up hands.
Do you remember?
But the cross was just like a stancho.
And he like went up on the side.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But that, but Ted Neely could hardly sing by then.
He sounded like David Clayton Thomas.
Yeah.
He's been in real.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
It was like, oh, until it was like, all right.
Yeah.
The one note.
Anyways, there you go.
All right.
We're nerding out here over.
Sorry.
I go nuts, man.
Fill your boots.
So, by it.
Wow, that's amazing.
Yeah, it's on a solo album, I found.
He's really, he's really, uh, stretched it out.
He's milked it out to a longer song.
He's a Las Vegas did.
Yeah.
Anyways, there you go.
Yeah, I was waiting.
Is this your last jam?
Oh.
Doesn't sound like Stephen Tyler.
No, I remember.
He's so young.
He's like 23, right?
Or something?
I remember hearing this and going,
and of course,
everything we knew was pump and,
yeah, but I knew this like when I was like nine or ten.
You know, like sweet emotion or walk this way?
That was 70 stuff.
Yep, that was 76, though.
Walk this way.
I know, I know.
This is like 73.
73.
But his voice sounds so different.
fucking love this song, by the way.
Was it Bobbu did that when you got up?
That was weird.
I'm like, no, we're building something here.
Don't fucking tap out at me.
The chorus.
This is the album version of Dream On.
Love it.
From the self-titled debut, 1973.
This.
version is four minutes and 28 seconds and the version they started playing on the radio in the
beginning was only three minutes and 25 seconds. They took out a bunch of that intro which is
well, what a decision that was. Anyways, they reissued that album version as a single in 1975.
So this is the first hit for Aerosmith and today it's a classic rock staple. You'll hear it on
Q107 today here.
Also, in my humble opinion, maybe the greatest song.
to have over a montage.
Like a sports montage.
I've seen it over, like,
just watching highlights with this song in the background
gets your heart rate going here.
Okay.
So, now it sounds a bit more like Stephen Tyler.
Fucking great.
Okay.
So here's Stephen Tyler was talking about writing this song,
and he said he wrote it on a Steinway upright piano
in the living room of his home,
maybe four years before Aerosmith even,
started so he was like 17 or 18.
It was just, this is
Stephen talking, it was just this
little thing I was playing and I never dreamed
you would end up as a real song or anything.
It's about dreaming until
your dreams come true.
So we're closing with this epic
dream jam.
Appropriate.
You've got to have a dream. So many
dreams songs. So many dreams. Life is
full of, life is nothing but a dream.
Life is but a dream.
Wherely we roll. We roll
down the stream. Life could be a dream
if I could take you up to paradise.
So many dreams.
Mr. Sandman? All that we see
is but a dream within a dream.
Mr. Sandman, bring me a dream.
Yeah. I have so many.
I know. I mean, everybody does. I'm sorry.
We could do Dream Jam's Part 2.
Yeah, we could.
These ideas are nightmares to fight parents
whose worst fear as a child with
dyed hair and who likes what they say
has no bearing. It's so scary
in the house that allows no swearing
to see him walking around with his head
The only one who gets to kick out some rap on this episode.
This is Eminem.
Sing for the moment from the Eminem show,
which he put out in 2002.
The guitar on this jam is performed by Joe Perry,
and the chorus does have Stephen Tyler singing.
This will come in a moment.
You relayed it down.
I'm looking at a 12-inch single for Wash Your Face in My Sink,
and do you know who recorded that song?
Dream Warriors.
Dream Warriors.
Oh, yes.
Also a band featured on the electric ball.
Yeah, right?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Dropping all that stuff all the time.
Love those guys.
King Lou and Capital Q.
We're going to get them one day.
One day we'll get those guys in the basement.
So we're actually going to finish with a song that appeared, ready for this, the last action hero soundtrack.
What a horrible movie.
It's fun if you're watching again.
Is it?
Yeah, yeah.
It really is.
I watched it a couple years ago.
That's weird.
You say that.
Why did you watch it?
I don't know.
You don't smoke weed?
No.
But try it again, though.
It's actually fun.
I was, I mean, I saw it when it came out
because you just had to see it.
It was not bad.
You know, I've never seen it.
What?
Watch it.
I haven't seen it for you.
I think I rented it from Jumbo Video.
Right.
I've never seen that movie.
And I saw a lot of, almost every Arnold Schwarzenegger movie,
but that was 93, so it was a bit late, I think,
for the Sports Decker thing.
Okay, so this song was not.
This is a live version of DreamOn by Aerosmith
That was recorded at the MTV 10th anniversary special
So MTV is turning 10, I guess that's 1991
And there's an orchestra there
Do you know the conductor Michael Kamen?
Sure
Michael Kamen is conducting an orchestra
And Aerosmith is doing a version with them of Dream On
MTV 10th anniversary special
and they took this version
for Last Action Hero
and if you want to hear this version
you've got to get the soundtrack
to the Last Action Hero
we'll hear a bit of this to take us home
While he builds here
Do you want to tell us the next theme?
Sure. Honky Tonks
We're going country boys.
Honky Tonkjams.
Yep. Love it.
It's a very specific type of
country music.
It was either
going to be that or cowboy
jams,
but I went with
Honky Tonk.
Love it.
I'm the honky tonk, man.
Now I get the wrestling
of the time.
Yeah, I've been thinking
about it.
I wanted to do some country.
It was either
going to be cowboy
honky tongue.
Honky tongue.
Honky Tongs.
Yeah,
well, the theme is
honky talk.
So,
whatever you want.
I thought we'd go
outside the realm.
You know, it's a little,
you know, that ain't
a new Eurodance.
Yes.
You're a vehicle, right?
Yeah, yeah, I'm driving.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bob's saying you can't listen to all 10 minutes of the dream on.
We need a new theme coming up.
Go find the last action hero soundtrack.
You can hear it.
Honky talk jams.
The new theme.
That's for November's toast.
Yeah.
Rob, you'll let us know when you could do November's toast.
We're going to get Bob out of here.
I'm going to a gray cup in November.
So, yeah, I'm going to Albaugh, Calgary.
Oh, wow.
I'm going to Calgary for it.
So that weekend's out.
So just let you know.
What's that weekend?
A 15.
Okay.
No pressure here.
No pressure.
I know you don't like doing it on the weekend anyways.
Oh, I'm going to Birmingham, Alabama, actually, that weekend.
Yeah.
I'm going to be playing Mamma Mia on the tour.
Get out of.
For a couple of times this month.
Oh, that's awesome.
Birmingham.
And that.
Birmingham is a song by Amanda Marshall.
It sure is.
A great song.
Yep.
I see what you did there.
Okay.
You did it.
Well, somebody did it.
And that.
Brings us to the end of our 1,993rd show.
1993. We're getting close to 2000.
Any prediction you two gentlemen have,
what's going to happen for episode 2000?
Five hour special.
Oh, yeah. That's just called this month.
That would be short.
The 10,000 episode was 540.
That's right. I listen to all thing.
It's coming soon, everybody.
Go to tronomomike.com for all your Toronto mic needs
and much love to all who made this possible.
Again, that's Great Lakes Brewery.
Are you bringing some great lakes to this party?
How much you got to give me?
Do you only want loggers?
No, give me whatever you got.
Do you have anything German? He's German.
Do you know the German?
I don't like Germans.
I don't like Germans.
I didn't say I like Germans.
I didn't say I like German.
I have right now.
I have Karma Citra.
Nice.
I have Canuck Pale Ale.
Nice.
I have a light logger and I have the octopus
wants to fight fighting weight.
Give me anything you got.
I will be bringing it across the streets.
They're German if you say so.
Palma Pasta.
They're hosting us November 28th.
I'll be there.
Can you really be there?
I'm pretty sure.
I'm going to be there.
But then we should tie the fucking toast to that.
I'm hoping around that weekend.
Yeah.
So, maybe that Thursday or Friday.
Sooner we get in the calendar to better.
Nick Aienies,
Recycle MyElectronics.ca,
Cliff Hacking Tuesday morning,
and Ridley Funeral Home,
subscribe to Life's Undertaking.
Hope Brad Jones can make it to
TMLX 24 to make peace
with my co-host that evening.
It's not an evening.
It's noon.
It's only an evening for Andy Pandy.
But my co-host, of course, is Elvis.
we're going to make peace
And that's a Palma.
Palm's Kitchen.
See you all Monday.
No, Monday's Thanksgiving.
Tuesday, after Cliff Hacking,
it's going to be James B.
So let me know if you have any questions or comments for James B,
and I know one of them will be, are you famous?
See you all.
Then.
