Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Elvis: Toronto Mike'd #186

Episode Date: July 31, 2016

Mike chats with Elvis about episodes he's missed, seeing Guns N Roses, Helix and The Tragically Hip, TFC vs. Argos, The Simpsons, and more.

Welcome to episode 186 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, local independent brewery producing fresh craft beer. I'm Mike from torontomic.com and joining me this week is Tupelo, Mississippi's own Elvis. East Tupelo. Is that right? Yeah, he's born in is Tupelo, Mississippi's own Elvis. East Tupelo. Is that right? Yeah, he's born in East Tupelo. Is that like the eastern part of Tupelo, making Tupelo also correct? I don't know.

I don't know. No, I think it's actually a place. I think East Tupelo is an actual place. Is that like when I say I'm Toronto Mike, and then you would say you're New Toronto Mike, but both are true? I don't know. would say you're new Toronto Mike, but both are true. I don't know the nuances of Mississippi or Tupelo for that matter well enough, but I know that he's actually born in East Tupelo. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. That voice you hear belongs to the elusive. You're as elusive as the other Elvis. Yes, I am. And I want to dive deeper into your elusivity, which is not a word.

First, I just want to say welcome to the 40 Club. Oh, thank you. You're in the 40 Club now where I've been for a couple of years now. How does it feel to be 40 years old? Fine. Feels exactly the same as it is. It's funny. Mrs. Elvis asked me, um,

how does it feel any different? Um, and no, it feels absolutely the same. And she's not yet at this. Uh, she's, she's not quite, she just turned 18.

Actually. That's, that's, that's weird, man. And how old is your oldest kid again? Do I need, this is a Jerry Lee Lewis.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. Uh, no, uh, she's, right. No, she's still well off. Yeah, mine too. So you're right. Tupelo is, now anyway, is a city. Back then it wouldn't have been a city.

So I guess both of us are technically correct. It's like Russian dolls. You more so are probably more so correct than I am. You know, I actually think I pulled that out of Wikipedia or something. Like, I wasn't sure where Elvis was born. Like, I knew it wasn't. Yeah, because most people think Memphis, right? Yeah, yeah.

So the fact that I got Tupelo correct, I deserve points for that. You do. You do. Let's talk briefly about, like, communicating with you you i just want to ask you so like you're here today i'm kind of surprised you're here because you bailed i feel like you bailed the last two or three times no i bailed one time only one just one time uh it's funny i remember suggesting to rob that we would do multiple episodes in July. And today, here we are. It's July 31st, and it's the first one. No, the only time I bailed this time around was on the day of, and it was just, how do I say this? I was just dealing with racism at work,

and I just didn't feel like talking to anybody. Okay. Yeah. That's an original excuse. I just figured you were tired or whatever nope nope not at all dealing with race i said yes i was tired but emotionally and spiritually not uh physically okay because um what happened was you and you started a conversation on uh it's called google hangouts yes which used to be like uh uh, used to be G chat, which is the Google chat. And I, like I have it on my phone and I use, I'm on, I'm in Gmail all day long. So I'm always there. Yes. Me too. Because you initiated through that channel. Yes. At some point I asked you like, uh, like, did you want to record whatever, but you never replied. And then another time you said, happy birthday. Yeah. You know what it is? And it's, and it's, I don't know if it's an excuse or not.

Um, but it's that I use hangouts for work. Um, and so I have hangouts on my phone and I have it at work, but it's with my, uh, work address. And so sometimes I forget to toggle back and forth. And if I'm in a meeting or like just about to take off, which is what happened a couple of times with you, I see the message come in, uh, like,

you know, it, it, the banner thing comes on and then I forget about it. And then I go to go back into hangouts and it's by default on my work. And then I forget that it's. Okay. Cause then at some point I,

I sent a message like, you know, if this is not the, like the channel, like tell me the channel. Like, and then you signed it Toronto mic Management, which I thought was great. Yeah, but I still never heard back.

I literally had to tweet at you to check your email. Yeah, that's probably because, yeah, because not many people email me anymore. It's certainly a valid way to get a hold of me, I guess. I'm not really overly elusive, I don't think. I just think that it was a series of circumstances over the last couple of weeks where I wasn't as connected as I normally am. I've been on a plane more than I usually am, and that's saying a lot. So I know you were in Brazil. Brazil, San Francisco, and New York City. So it's been a lot. And your kids have forgotten. Well well your youngest probably doesn't know

who you are he knows his other dad better his biological father is it rough? I know this is heavy but I just think I got the 4 month old and the 2 year old and I can't imagine I don't even like to leave for like a night yeah well that's the other obstacle

then is like okay coming here because I live so far away is frankly it's difficult that's not an excuse it's the other obstacle then is like, okay, coming here because I live so far away is, is frankly, it's difficult. That's not an excuse. It just is the way it is. Um,

and then coming here during the week, which is, which works well because I work downtown is still a pain in the ass because then I have to drive all the way out here and then I have to drive into work and park and then going home is a pain. So it's, it is a, the struggle is real,

but it certainly doesn't excuse me not responding to your messages more quickly, especially a happy birthday message. That's not very nice. Yeah, not nice. So I apologize for that. Thank you. Do you have any regrets that you bought this mansion in northern Oshawa? You're a little bit like— It's not a mansion.

You have a Costco floor, right? No, just a room. Just a room for Costco. All right. Any regrets? Regrets is a pretty. Just a room for Costco. All right. Any regrets? Regrets is a pretty strong word, but I certainly hate it. Well, I would regret if I did something and I hated it, I'd probably regret I did that.

No, because I didn't hate it at the time. So I think everything happens within context. I just did one of the, you know, have you heard of strength finders? No. So you do this thing, it's like a whole bunch of questions that they ask you and there's no wrong answers in the questions. It's like, would you, do you think you're more like this or more like this? Right. And they sort of put it all into an algorithm.

They give you like your top five strengths as a person. And one of them for me this time around, I just did it again for the first time in two years is context. And for me, context is, is, context is hugely important for me. And so the context in which we purchased the house made sense. The context in which we own the house now does not. So that doesn't mean that that decision back then was wrong. See, if I hated where I lived, it would be a high priority to fix that by like,

and of course, I know you have a wife from that neck of the woods who probably works near there or whatever. Correct. So it's not an independent decision, but you would work to make yourself love where you live. I can't imagine anything more important than loving where you hang your hat. Correct. Location is so key. Correct.

So are you working to rectify this? Well, unfortunately, it's not my decision. Entirely. So Mrs. Elvis wants to stay put. Is that what you're suggesting? Absolutely. Yes. So, you're divorcing your beautiful wife.

Well, you never know. Interesting. All right. So, I just was curious because I'd like to see more of you and it is a pain in the ass. I would like to see more of you and like to be on here more often. And even though I'm not on the subway line, I'm south of the subway line. It is just one Islington bus south. Yeah, see, I wouldn't take

a bus. See, if I were to take the subway, which what was I doing one time? Oh, I was going to take the subway because I was at my parental unit's house or my brother's house. I can't remember. Anyway, so I got on the subway

at Kipling and i was going to go into uh i'm going to go to the tfc match okay is what it was and uh the tfc or the ttc ended up being closed of course on the weekend yeah so they got us all off at jane or something i can't remember yeah so most people got on this the shuttle bus and i just called it uber i don't okay i don't do buses. Interesting. I'll do a streetcar. You won't do one bus?

My new co-host, Mark Weisblot. I heard. I was very confused. And this will make more sense soon, but he's been on three times in the past six weeks. Oh, wow. Yeah. And he was on the last episode, and we're going to run down the list of episodes you never listened to. Yep.

But he takes the TTC here from like North York. So he's getting off at Islington and then dropping. Oh, so he takes the subway down to Yonge and then over to Islington? He's definitely getting off at Islington Station and taking the 110, I think. It's a south bus from Islington that takes you basically to T&T. The T&T is the surplus shop on the corner of Islington and Lakeshore. I don't know that shop.

I know the locksmith shop at the corner. Oh, well, yeah. That's too much detail. You're not supposed to be so specific. You've got to be more general. But anyway, we'll talk about Mark Weisblatt in a minute, but let's talk about the beer in front of you. So these cool cats, Great Lakes Brewery, they want you to enjoy their beverage.

If you come over more often, I would give you a six-pack every time you come over. Trust me, it's definitely a... Don't give that to the Mrs. Elvis, though. This looks great. My bitter wife. Thank you, Great Lakes Brewery. You know what else I would probably do is I would probably stop off at their brewery

on the way home and buy some more. Right. And on that note, so my favorite beer from Great Lakes Brewery is the Octopus Wants to Fight IPA. Okay.

And then- An IPA, Mike? Yeah. Really? And it's- You like a hoppy beer? It's got a citrusy thing going on and I actually really dig this beer.

Wow. So I'm like- And you know, I give beer out, and I actually really dig this beer. Wow. I'm shocked. And I give beer out, but I also take some for myself. Sure. I think they know that. But I'm putting in requests with my guy because he delivers all the beer to my house, and I'm like, load up on the octopus bites I pay because Mikey likes it. And he's like, oh, we don't sell that anymore.

They do these limited runs. Yes, yes. Well, that's the amazing part about having a local brewery. I got an email from a Grant Ridge, I think his name is, and he's a listener, and he's giving me a heads up. It's back! He was there buying Octopus Fights a couple of

days ago. Where are they located? Royal York and Queensway area. You know where the Costco is? You don't think... Yeah, yeah. I know where they are. It's a little bit south of there. So between the highway and the Costco, there's a street, and it's there. You can see it from the Gardner. So it's north of the Gardner. It's north of the Gardner.

Gotcha. Okay. Just a little bit north of Gardner. Gotcha. And yeah, he says the octopus fights his back, so I'm going to... Look at you. ...make some phone calls. Look at you.

Yeah. I might be up to maybe three beers a week sometimes now. Holy mold. Do I need a program? Calm down. Do I need a program? Three beers a week. moly. Do I need a program? Calm down. Do I need a program? Three beers a week. Holy moly.

Do I need a program? And the missus and I, sometimes we're having dinner. We share a beer, half and half. Get out of here. You share a whole fucking king can? Yeah. Whoa. So there you go.

Pump the motherfucking brakes, dude. You're out of control. Okay, so good question. Sharing a talk. We're going to go down the list of episodes you go. Pump the motherfucking brakes, dude. You're out of control. Okay, so good question. Sharing a talk. We're going to go down the list of episodes you missed. But one of the guys you missed is Ed Keenan, who writes for The Star. Yes. And in his first appearance, he came clean about the fact he no longer touches the alcohol.

Oh, good for him. No more alcohol. So he's coming on. That was before the beer era. So can I have a six pack? No, because he's already been on, first of all. And I asked on Twitter, what's the protocol? If somebody says they don't touch alcohol anymore,

do you give them a six-pack so they can... Like, Mad Dog re-gifted it. I gave Mad Dog... Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He re-gifted it. Yep. And I felt like, give Keenan the respect

that he can handle having a six-pack in his possession without running away and gulping it all down. Sure. You know what I mean? So what would you do in that situation? I'd ask probably. Yeah. If I knew, if he volunteered that he was in AA or whatever,

or that he was on the wagon, I'd ask. A few people via Twitter said, basically said, I don't know if I'm paraphrasing, but what an asshole thing to do to give a recovering alcoholic a six pack of beer to take home with them. That's such a terrible thing to do to give a recovering alcoholic a six-pack of beer to take home with them. That's such a terrible thing to do. Well, I mean, I'm not sure what Ed's response was, but I would assume he doesn't want to

be labeled, right? Ed was very excited to give the beer to his wife, who still enjoys it. It would be like, let's just say your sponsor was a cigar company and you were giving away cigars. I would be offended somewhat if you were to say, well, no, Elvis has had cancer, so I'm not going to give him the cigars. Well, fuck you. If someone else wants to smoke them and I have the opportunity to give them away or promote your show on behalf of you. I happen to agree with you because I did give him the beer because he's an adult who has it under control and is happy to re-gift it to his wife.

So his wife was enjoying the beer. So it all works out fine. But it was just interesting on Twitter, the split response. A lot of people were like, it doesn't matter what they say. A lot of recovering alcoholics, it's like giving them a loaded gun like don't why would you well it's not up to you to determine if they're telling the truth or not right right i mean if you're at a bar that's a different story and you're like you know yeah yeah you pour him a glass and say here drink up i wasn't gonna open up his can and say here we're gonna we're gonna

drink together yeah yeah so So the funny thing is, so I recorded with Ed Keenan for the second time. And that night, Michelle, my daughter, who just turned 12 two days ago, she had a soccer game in the Junction area because she was subbing for another team. And we decided, hey, I was with my son too, and we're like, let's go to Harvey's.

So after the game, we bike over to Harvey's in the stockyards. So we're at the stockyards. This is Kiel and St. Clair. And I walk in the Harvey's. Ed Keenan and his three kids are sitting down. I hear this name, Mike. Mike, Ed Keenan and his three kids. I had just spent like two and a half hours here talking with Ed on the air and off.

And then like two hours later, I walk into a Harvey's and he's sitting there with his three kids. Very good. Isn't that amazing? No, but it's cool. I didn't know he was going to be there and he didn't. Anyways, I thought that was pretty good.

I thought that was amazing. Of all the restaurants, I could have gone to any restaurant. I didn't have to go to Harvey's. I didn't have to go to that Harvey's. There he is. Same time, same channel. Amazing.

Amazing. And on that same episode, since we're talking about the Keenan episode, I referred to Kevin Durant as, for some reason, I called him Durant. Like, I made it up, right? Oh, you're very cultured. I got several tweets. Is he French?

Yeah. Several tweets telling me it's Durant, not Durant. Were you actually saying Durant, like, multiple times, or was it just like a slip? Yeah, I think probably multiple times. Oh, look at you. I don't know. I've just seemed... Big basketball fan, are you?

I am. But the thing is, I am a big basketball fan. I watch a lot of basketball. Apparently not of Durant. So I know it's Durant and I'm sorry I called it Durant. Okay. I love it. Patreon.

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You know, if you want to give a couple of bucks a month to help for the new hard drive I just bought and the swing arm boom things that Elvis is enjoying right now and these nice microphones. And you have to redo the wall. And you have to get Stokely back here to work on the sound.

Stokely has been an immense help because some episodes recently were too quiet, I've been told. And he remastered them for you. Well, via Skype, he gave me some excellent advice and I did it myself. So I upped the gain here. I'm pointing to things no one can see,

but the gain has been increased. See these orange things? Yeah, green things. I'm kind of blind now. The green things, they never used to be so many. Like it didn't go so high. But you want it sort of at that, right at the cusp of going yellow, which is exactly what's happening. Why didn't you tell me this before?

I'm not your fucking engineer. You don't pay me enough to be your goddamn co-host. When Stokely left, he set this up. I never touched a thing. Right. I'm not touching a fucking knob or whatever. These are the faders. I touch the faders.

You touch my knob all the time. You know. But, like, I didn't the faders. I touch the faders. You touch my knob all the time. Hey, now. But I didn't realize I could do things here. I didn't want to fuck it up. I thought this multi-million dollar piece of equipment had to be set and just forgotten about forever and ever. So once in a while, you see how it goes into orange land. As long as I don't live in the orange, we're good.

Correct. And you certainly don't ever want to be in the red, at least for no more than a split second. The very top bar is the red one and I don't think I've touched it. I'm going to try to make a joke later. Laugh into the mic when I make my joke. What are you, fucking Rohan or

Rosham or whatever his name is? Rosham? Please, respect my only Indian. Roham? Rosham? Roshan. Do you think he's up to date? Because we know you aren't. We're going to dive in there. Yeah, let's go for it. Let's see how close we are.

Elvis, your last episode was 171. Okay. This is 186. Wow. You've got some pretty impressive talent on. Well, let's find out if that's true. The following people have sat in that seat since you were last here. Hit me.

KJ from Boom. Good for him. Who is also known as Chris James from 680 CFTR. Oh, wow. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah. No, I knew that because I read it on your blog. Okay.

So I'm glad I could educate you. KJ was on. Cool. The aforementioned Mark Weisblot from the newsletter 1236 came on. I don't know what that is. So I only know him from a tweet yesterday. So what is that? I don't know what it is.

I'm curious. At 1236 p.m. every single day, weekday, you get an email newsletter that he writes and curates of basically the things you should know if you're like you and I interested in like interesting things happening in Toronto. But I'm not talking about boring old news

like Ed Keenan and I talking about the transit file or whatever. But I'm trying to explain this. I'm doing an awful job. But interesting, fun things, like maybe something about Drake tweeted something with Norm. Just interesting things.

That's a shitty description, but you should subscribe to this newsletter. Well, what's his website so I can go get the accurate description of what it actually is? Well, I believe it is 1236.ca. And it's the numbers, 1236, right? I believe it's the numbers.

All right, I'll go look it up. You know who else does something timed like that? Tell me. Is Jackie the Joke Man Martling. Does he? At 4.20 every day, he will tweet a joke. That reminds me of Barry Taylor's 4.20 joke of the day. That's right.

Both. Very interesting. And you know who does? Both bad. They're both bad. Do you know whose voice it is doing the, very interesting. No, who?

Blind Eric. Really? Wow, really? If you look behind you, do you see the Blue Jay logo on the wall? Do you see it? Yes, I do. Yeah.

That's the Blue Jay logo circa Gord Ash years. Yeah, that's signed by people like Roy Halliday. Signatures on that. Oh, nice. A gift from Blind Eric. Look at you. Yeah. Look at you.

Yes, and just yesterday, I spent the day or part of the day at Mardi Gras in Sam Smith Park, and the Move people were there. Do you know what the Move is? No. Look at you. Yes. And just yesterday, I spent the day or part of the day at Mardi Gras in Sam Smith Park. And the Move people were there. Do you know what the Move is? No. Do you know? Have you ever heard of a station called Flow? Yes, I have.

They rebranded as The Move. Oh, really? Isn't that where the two guys that you interviewed are from? No, you're thinking of Roz and Boca? Yeah. That's Kiss. Kiss, sorry. It's Roger's rival.

My bad. This is like the? Yeah. That's Kiss. Kiss, sorry. It's Roger's rival. My bad. This is like the Boom people. Speaking of Boom, the Boom people, New Cap, I think is the name of the company. Okay. They own Boom and they own The Move. And Blind Eric does all the imaging and stuff for the two stations there. Oh, nice. There you go.

I just signed up for 1236 right now. Yeah, good. Very easy. 1236.ca. Super easy. See, I was right. The only thing that's on the webpage basically is to fill in your first name, last name, and email address. Do it now. Yeah, good. Very easy. 1236.ca. Super easy. See, I was right. The only thing that's on the webpage basically is to fill in your first name, last name, and email address.

Do it now. Sort of like Google. Keep it as simple over there. That's right. Okay. I like it. Marty York. Yeah.

He caused a lot of stuff. I have no interest in hearing him, even if I did listen to your podcast. But he certainly caused a lot of... Let's say he raised your clout score. How about that? I wouldn't be able to tell you my clout score to save my life. Well, you got to sign up for it, but I would imagine it raised it

because you got a lot of mentions about it. Yeah. Okay. So by the way, as we go through this list, just let me know if you actually heard one. I know you haven't heard any. No, you know what's funny? I know I say this and you don't believe me,

but every single one of your episodes is on my phone. I download them. It's like a tree falling in the forest.'s funny? I know I say this and you don't believe me, but every single one of your episodes is on my phone. I download them. It's like a tree falling in the forest. I know, I know. You get a download from me at the very least. Marty York, who in person, I know I've said this, and it's true, in person he was delightful. Well, I mean, what is he going to be?

A complete fucking asshole? You mean like Damien Cox? He wasn't an asshole. No, he wasn't an asshole. No. Marty York, but he was great with the kids. Isn't that Marty York's boyfriend? I think they were sending selfies to each other.

Yeah, sure. So bottom line is Marty York on Twitter is a supreme asshole. Yeah, well, he's a contrarian, right? No, no, no. Well, I guess you'd call him that, but I see it more as he was fired from a gig at Rogers Media, or whatever they're called at Rogers Media, Rogers Radio, whatever they are. He gets fired from that gig, and now anything Rogers owns, he despises and sees in a negative light, even if the facts and numbers demonstrate otherwise.

What does he do now? He does not have anything to do with sports media right now. He is working for some charity. I think it's a B'nai B'rith. Is that how you say it? Oh, yeah, sure. That's a real Jewish thing, right? Yeah, yeah. Is he Jewish? I didn't ask, but... Or is he B'nai? I would guess he was Jewish,

but I did not... It didn't come up in the convo. I would guess so, but I don't know. I don't know why I asked that, really. Well, I don't know. Maybe. But, you don't know. Maybe. Somewhat interesting. He is so negative towards the Blue Jays that I find it unreadable. And I used to have a little fun with it, like try to call it out on nonsense. Like he would say Josh Donaldson is having a terrible year. And all the numbers would demonstrate that Josh Donaldson was having a remarkable,

like better than last season when he won MVP. He had one of the best statistical first year seasons in Blue Jays history this year. And he started strong. The numbers are just as good or even potentially better now

than they were last year. Correct. So when he tweets these things like that, I would call him out on it. And then a few people I trust that are actually like employed in the mainstream

just said, like maybe you should stop like feeding this troll or whatever beast because that's what he wants right so i've stopped uh and i've cut the cord if you will but uh that episode you know it's i'm not saying you have to listen to it but it might be interesting to hear what makes so does he so he he's obviously cordial and explains all of this to you um and and i know that you said that you're going to confront him on a couple of things. Was it contentious at all at ever? I know because the Damien Cox podcast

was great and lovely and he was brilliant and all that stuff. And so were you. But there were certainly points of friction in that podcast. No. Anything like that with him? And I called him out on everything,

like from the plagiarism, because there's a lot of plagiarism to like the nonsensical tweets and the trolling and stuff. And he was pretty like, oh, he would have answered anything I asked him. Gotcha. I never felt like, he never gave me a dirty look. Gotcha.

I could have gone three hours and asked him everything. And I think I did my best. Well, good for him, then. So there, that exists. And then that exists. And then Ronnie Hawkins, lead singer of Lowest of the Low. That I didn't know. One of my favorite bands.

Awesome, yeah. And the author of my closing theme, Rosie and Gray. I've seen him a couple of times in concert the Low. That I didn't know. One of my favorite bands. Awesome, yeah. And the author of my closing theme, Rosie and Gray. Yeah, I've seen him a couple times in concert too. It's great. So he came over and- That's a big win, man.

Thanks, yeah. We talked about, I mean, I just asked all my fanboy questions and it was fantastic. Awesome. I even, I'm like, who's this Henry? And like, why did he need

a new pair of shoes? And I got the best story of like the origin of all that stuff. Okay. I love it. Mad Dog came back. I love Mad Dog. That is one that I will listen. I will totally listen to that. I'm a big Mad Dog fan after the first podcast. And he re-gifted his beer. Which is really weird because he's not the kind of DJ, disc jockey that I would normally listen to or even like.

But I'm a big Mad Dog fan. I really fucking like that guy. So I am going to listen to that one for sure. Listen to the sequel. We did a, okay, I did a special episode with Ed Conroy, who is better known as Retro Ontario. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've done him a couple of times, haven't you? Yeah, this is his third time, actually. The aforementioned Mark Weisblot. Right.

And we did an episode devoted to 1050 Chum. Basically, we called it Requiem for Chum. We talked about the, when 1050 Chum. Basically, we called it Requiem for Chum. We talked about when 10.50 Chum left Top 40 Radio in 1986. That's when they went oldies? Yes, they went oldies. Exactly. We talked about the birth of much music that coincided

with that era. I think it was interesting, but that episode is interesting in that Jim Van Horn was a all through the 70s, was a DJ on 1050 Chum. Right. Did you know that?

Yeah, no, I didn't know that until I saw that on your podcast, on your blog. Because we know him as the TSN guy. Yeah, he was like, wasn't he like employee number one or something? Yeah, he's employee number one.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and I, so I'm like, it was fascinating to me to hear his sound checks. Like he's this classic like 70s DJ, like oh, he's hitting the post. He's got an amazing voice, man. Yeah. He's got an amazing voice, man.

Yeah. He's got an amazing voice. But he heard the 1050 Chum thing. Yeah. And through that connection, he wanted to come on. So did he reach out to you? I can't remember anymore. Right.

Because that might be the first guest that actually reached out to you and said they wanted to come on. No, no, no. I've had somebody say, basically, please put me on. Oh, really? Yeah. I'd love to hear who that is. You can tell me that afterwards. You can tell me that afterwards. Well, I will

confess, I ask occasionally to come on and Mike also asked me to come on. It's mutual, right? Well, sometimes I want to shoot the shit with a buddy instead of all that, you know, Avery Haynes is coming on, I got to do some homework and it's a very serious thing. This one, I don't have to do any homework. So Jim Van Horn

came on and what I think was a great episode. Like we did the 1050 Chum thing and then we did the TSN and the Sportsnet. Definitely want to listen to him. For sure. Do it. Then. He's got to be a hundred years old though, isn't he? You know what?

I'm going to put him at like 65. Oh, okay. All right. And he, you know, we also had a, he talked about you are, you need to listen because you're a survivor. He talked about, he took a piss one day and it was like ketchup, he said. Really? You need to listen to the story of bladder cancer, I think it was.

That's horrible. You need to hear this. All right. Okay. You need to hear it. All survivors should listen to the Jim Van Hornip. By the way, he's teaching at a sports media college in downtown Toronto. Nice.

I think it's like $25,000 or $30,000 to go to this school. Oh, yeah. It's probably like international school broadcasting or something like that. I don't know. Yeah. Barb Julia told me never to go there. Okay. Because ready for who's teaching there in addition to Jim Van Horn?

Roger Lajoie. Oh, Roger. John Wells from TSN. Yeah, yeah. Chris Zelkovich, who wrote... Oh, yeah. John Wells from TSN. Yeah, yeah. Chris Zelkovich, who wrote... Oh, yeah, he did the media stuff for the Slug. He still writes for Yahoo, I think. That's right.

Yeah, he does. Anyway, those... And he's still media, right? Yeah, he's still like... I love that guy. CFL ratings and all that shit, which we'll get to. The very entertaining Spike John Gallagher. Spike Gallagher?

You know John Gallagher. I do know John Gallagher. He came on. He's coming back on because there's way too much there. He's very tough to like... I think I did my best. He's manic, isn't he? Il Duce called me up after this.

The great Il Duce. Yes. From Palma Pasta. Yes. Future sponsor of Toronto Mic, by the way. Hope so. We'll disclose that later. He called me up to say he thought I did a remarkable job

of controlling the manic John Gallagher. Yeah, because he's manic. And he's all over the place. He called me up to say he thought I did a remarkable job controlling the manic John Gallagher. Yeah, because he's manic. And he's all over the place. He is. And he's literally off the mic a lot. I got a lot of comments. Right, right, right. He needs to be like a horse where you put the blind in. Yeah. I'll try that next time. Yeah. But his

stories were amazing. I'm sure him and when I think of manic broadcasters and I don't mean this in, in like a clinical, uh, insulting way, but him and Steve Anthony to me are two manic broadcasters in the sense that they're like a hundred miles an hour,

go, go, go, go, go. And being in sports on city TV, it totally fucking worked for both of them. And obviously both of them being on much music as well.

I believe that it worked. Um, but I, I would be, that Much Music as well, I believe that it worked. But that would be a tough interview. You've got to listen. He's way more manic than Steve Anthony. Steve Anthony, I think he's toned down quite a bit. He has. Definitely, yeah. He's not throwing trees off of the top of Much Music building

anymore. He's the boy in the box, you know. I don't know if you know that. All right. David Schultz came back for a second episode in which we primarily discussed the problems at Rogers Hockey. Oh, yeah, right. You told me about that. And I heard for the first time since I started the podcast. Yes.

I don't even know if I should say this. The problem is this would fuck up future guests and stuff. But the whole real talk thing means more to me, I think, than future guests. But I heard from rogers pr on this one you did yeah and then i don't know how i won't give too much details i definitely won't mention the person's name except uh it wasn't loved by rogers pr this episode sure and i was uh i have uh some future guests including one tomorrow from rogers own stations and i uh they wanted to make sure like that theme didn't continue into their discussions really so they sort of gave you framework as to what you

couldn't well it wasn't so harsh like it was more of like uh like maybe i don't do the what's wrong of rogers hockey with them but i but but but what happens if the guest brings it up well first of all i the way i look at it is the guests were talking about that wasn't coming up anyways because they had nothing to do with Roger's hockey. Right, right, right. It wasn't on the agenda. So it's not like I changed my agenda after this chat. I wasn't going to do it anyway. But if it comes up organically, but I don't actually have a plan to say, like, let's talk about, like, Strombo versus McLean.

Like, it's not actually on my list. Sure, sure. But if you brought in... Let's just say you landed Don Cherry. Say. Let's say... Yes? I think a legitimate question would be to get his opinion

on George Trumbull as a host. That's a no-brainer. Correct? Correct. Correct, yeah. So if I have somebody who's on Rogers Hockey, it's coming up.

I have, guys, I have Merrick coming on, and Damien Cox is coming back. Really? And I might have Cox on, and working on this with Schultz, because Cox is on board, but Schultz and Cox have a rivalry. They're having an amazing sort of back and forth. They might come on at the same time. Oh, they would fucking love that.

Cox is into it. Schultz, he's off for all of September. Schultz is in, like, Prince Edward Island, where I'm going to be soon, by the way. But we're not there at the same time. Cox is into it. For all of September, Schultz is in Prince Edward Island, where I'm going to be soon, by the way. But we're not there at the same time. So he's warming up to it, but I might have Schultz and Cox at the same time.

Long story short, what I'm trying to say is, if you're a part of Rogers Hockey, we're talking Rogers Hockey, if the person coming on tomorrow has nothing to do with Rogers Hockey, I'm not bringing up Rogers Hockey. It's not on my list. Right, right, right. But this episode was heard by Rogers people and not enjoyed by Rogers hockey. I'm not bringing up Rogers hockey. Like it's not on my list. Right, right, right, right. But it was, this episode was heard by Rogers people and not enjoyed by Rogers people.

But Schultz doesn't work in there anymore. No, well Schultz, no. He's just giving you his opinion on what he knows. Schultz works for Globe and Mail. Right. Which is not owned by Rogers or Bell. Right. People think Cox, for one, tweets that.

Well, he just likes to get it out. But Cox knows full well. He knows full well Bell does not own Globe and Mail. So to me, when he tweets something that suggests that Bell owns Globe and Mail, it's the same as when Donald Trump sends out some fictional nonsense tweet that would drive Cox mad. Like, he's just stirring the pot with lies. Well, he's stirring the pot.

But he knows Bell doesn't own Globe. Yeah, but don't let the facts get in the way of a good story. All right. You know? And that was over, by the way, that was over the O-Dog. Do you know the O-Dog? Do you know? Are you aware of this O-Dog?

Yes, I am. Okay. Yes. So there was like a puffy piece about like the O-Dog. I got to call him O-Dog. What's his name? Jeff O'Neill. There's a piece about Jeff O'Neill

that was in the Globe written by Schultz. Yeah, he's a homer and all that stuff. Cox felt it was a help because Bell owns Globe, which they don't. You know, he's doing

like a puff piece, which is ironic coming from a Rogers guy when the Marty York's whole mantra is that, you know, they're completely biased over there.

And there's some truth to that. But, you know, this whole idea... But everybody has a certain level of bias. I mean, it's just there. Which is fine if Bell did own the Globe, which it does not. But we'll move on, because I could go forever. I just think that was a dink tweet. But that'll be my first question for Cox when he's

over here. Why is he tweeting that Bell owns Globe when he knows full well Globe? Well, because you're fucking talking about it. It worked! Okay, fine. But, you know, I mean, it's like yelling fire in a crowded Globe. Well, because you're fucking talking about it. It worked. Okay, fine. But, you know, it's like yelling fire in a crowded theater. Like, it works. But, come on. Alright. We have Ed Keenan again. We talked about that. Okay.

And then we had Avery Haynes. Do you know who Avery Haynes is? No, I don't know who Avery is. Sorry, Avery, but I don't know who he is. Do you remember the controversy when on, speaking of Rogers, on CTV, what was it called news net what's it called the ctv news yeah news net or it used to be called news net i don't know what ctv news one

now because i'm a you know i'm a cbc news world kind of guy which i know it's not called that either now it's called cbc news network or something anyway the the ctv one avery haynes was recording a piece that was not going to air live and at the end of the piece because she stuttered on it she made a joke about how like you know if she was a stuttering black lesbian eskimo in a wheelchair they could knock off all the minorities at once like she just made some joke that was recorded but was never to air okay because then she redid it properly and the i don't know who's responsible for which thing went to air but Okay. Because then she redid it properly. And the, I don't know who's responsible for which thing went

to air, but that person effed up and aired the wrong one. And this went to air and the controversy that came out, because she was on the front page of

the Sun, this got her fired. Okay. Now we're going back like 15 years. This got her fired and now she's on City TV.

If you saw her, you'd know her. She's very good. She's very talented. But after the Orlando shooting, she decided to come out. I almost want to say she came out of the closet, but that's the term that upset her when I used it. Because her sexuality is fluid. So she was married to a man and had three children.

Okay. Now she's married to a woman. Okay. But she doesn't identify as straight. She doesn't have these labels, straight, gay, bisexual.

Right. It's fluid. Okay. So, but she wanted to write about this after the Orlando shooting. Right. So this is, so we talked about that.

So there's a lot of like really interesting. And also her sister is Emily Haynes, lead singer of metric. Wow. That's the, I thought you'd be more excited than that. singer of Metric. Wow. I thought you'd be more excited than that. No, not really. Okay. That sounds like an interesting podcast, though.

All right. And then Mark Weisblatt came back for a third time because he wants to be my new co-host, and he might get the gig because you're so unreliable and you bail so often. That's fair. And let's tell the people about our chat with Derringer real quick. Yeah. that's fair and let's tell the people about our chat with derringer real quick yeah i i it was uh it was it was pretty um i i don't even know if there's really anything to report other than uh

i reached out to to uh derringer on facebook of where i'm friends with him and said hey sat in your studio a number of years ago um you, you probably don't remember me, but, uh, you know, I, I, uh, I know this guy who does a podcast. I co-host with him occasionally would love to have you on. Um, we've had some people on before that you probably know, blah, blah, blah. You chimed in with some reasons why it would be good for him to be on. And he responded very respectively and said, I decline, uh, you know, not that I want to be on. And then you asked him again, basically, with some other good reasons as to why it would be interesting to have him on and what we would talk about. You sort of outlined what we would talk about specifically.

And then he wrote back and said, no, thanks, guys. Keep doing what you're doing. You're doing a great job. So clearly he is aware of the podcast. I believe him to be aware of the podcast because he liked how we promote radio

because not a lot of places are... Sure. Well, I don't know if he knew about... Because you know what? When I ran down that list of guests who have been on

since you were here last year, I actually skipped two by accident. One of whom is Jeff Woods. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a 2007 guy. I love that guy.

So for sure... Great fucking book. I'm not saying he's heard the Jeff Woods episode, but he very well may be aware that, because, you know, Jeff Woods talked about being fired from Chorus last year. Right. And, you know, he talked about,

Derringer was hosting the book signing at the Horseshoe. About a month ago, two months ago. You got it. Yeah. So there's a lot of like, anyways. But he may not have been aware of the podcast. Let's not get toot your horn here too much, Mike. But he thanked me for what I do.

But he could have found out about it from the message and then looked you up and looked up the podcast because I believe I gave the website address. Regardless, he did thank you for what you did, which is true. And the bottom line is for people who keep telling me to get Derringer on, maybe they'll stop doing that because we nicely asked him and I really do want Derringer on, but he has politely declined. I'd love to have Derringer on and listen to that podcast

because he's a true talent, and I like him a lot. It was awesome to see him in action one time, but he has declined. I have a theory that he is declining because of my loose affiliation with the Humble & Fred show because Humble and Fred show. Because Humble and Fred, on their show, often go at him aggressively in a negative fashion.

That could be the truth. And they tell a lot, you know, how the sausage is made. They're telling a lot of Derringer stories that are not very flattering to Mr. Don Derringer. Right. Okay. So my thought is that he doesn't want to come on potentially because he thinks I'm going to go to those stories, but I don't know that for a fact.

That's my guess. Okay. So the other show you missed was Ingrid Schumacher. Have you ever heard that name? I have. I do know who Ingrid is. She was great too, and I believe her to be the longest serving,

the person who's been at the same station and is still on the air the longest. Am I saying that right? She's still at the station. She's been on longer than anyone else. How many years would that be? 70s. So we're going back to like 79 or something. That's crazy. That's an anomaly.

Because Ashby doesn't move over from 1050 to 104.5 until something like 85 or something like that. It's crazy. And the other one who I'm trying to get on the show is the guy who told us the goal was scored by number 13, Matt Sedin. Andy Frost? Is that not a good impression?

No. All right. That was horrible. He's been at Q since 86. It would be really interesting to have Andy on, given what's happened with him at MLSE recently. Yeah. Do you have any guess as to who the new program?

I do not. I saw an advertisement for people to send in tapes. But don't you think that was for the in-game host? You have two jobs, right? There was multiple people that they were looking for tapes for in the ad that I saw. It was three different positions. But I would assume that they would get a professional to do the announcing as opposed to the in-game hosting. But who knows?

Maybe they... Okay, well, look at this. Okay, so we have the two main owners of the Maple Leafs are Rogers and Bell. So the money would be on one of their talents coming over because, you know, it would right now, Andy Frost is a chorus guy, so he's not Rogers or Bell. So I would think, I don't know, somebody from one of those two stables of radio announcers might be. It's interesting to see how that would work because you'd think that the person from chorus would be the best compromise.

Like it's got to be awkward every single time they come up with a decision. It's like, okay, who did we hire a Rogers guy or girl last time? Do we now hire a bell guy or girl? It would just be really confusing. I'm surprised that that marriage has lasted as long as it has. And one of them hasn't been bought out yet. Um, but I mean, I guess they, I mean, they saw dollar signs before. Now they see even more with, with the team that, you know, is, is coming anyway. Um, so who knows where that person is going to come from? And, you know, it's, it's not necessarily a great job in the sense that you have to be available in the evenings, right? Every single home game. And then if they do the same thing that Andy was doing, you're going to be on the radio afterwards.

And sometimes you're going until midnight or 1 a.m., depending on what coast you're playing on. And so that can eliminate a lot of people. And correct me if I'm wrong, but when we're on the road, they still do the Leafs talk. They do. 80 Plus still has to do that part.

Yeah, so that's 82 games, right? So you're not in the... And I believe Andy was in the station doing stuff at the beginning of the game. So it wasn't even like he could come in at the end. Cause he would, cause, but he doesn't do, does he do the post game completely now? Isn't it Gord, Gord Stelic?

Or is that just on the fan? I'm not sure. I can't remember. I can't remember. Anyway, I mean, it's, it's not necessarily as... I'm sure he's... I mean, his comments have indicated that he's cool with it. And I imagine that it's probably a blessing in disguise

that he doesn't have to do it anymore. But who knows? I'm not going to speak for him. It'll be interesting. It won't be long before we find out who it'll be. Because it'll be interesting to find out who the heck it is. Trying to remember what my local bar... My local bar has one of those signs that says

X number of days, hours, and minutes until next game. It's usually like early or mid-October. Something like that. It won't be long. We still have to play this World Cup of hockey. That's right. Shit, that's right. The last thing I'm thinking about, I got a

big, hard case of Blue Jays fever. We'll get to that soon. It's just strange to think there's going to be I got a big hard case of Blue Jays fever. We'll get to that soon. Because we're still... It's just strange to think there's going to be like, Sidney Crosby is going to be lacing it up soon. What was I doing? Oh, yeah. All right.

So I will move on to tell everybody that last night, I went to see a band perform. Give it up! R-O-T-K! What you got? Rock! perform. So I went to October 12th is the Leaf first home game or first game. Sorry.

Who's it against? Ottawa Senators. Ottawa Senators away. The Austin Matthews debut. That'll be a high rated Rogers will recoup some of those debut. That'll be high-rated. Rodgers will recoup some of those losses. That's a Wednesday, and then a Saturday evening,

they are home against the Boston Bruins. When they get like two million to watch that game, will they all pat themselves on the back and say, thank goodness we got rid of Strombo. Look at the difference it made. Yeah, because it's all his fault. If only. All right.

So yesterday I went to Lakeshore Mardi Gras to watch Helix. Now, I only actually, I confess, I only know one song by Helix. I just played it, okay? Did you go by yourself? I went by myself because young babies needed somebody to watch them and Jarvis goes to bed at 7.30, so I went myself.

So, I went down the street. It wasn't very far. I kind of jogged over and I got, you know, I was right in front of the stage for the Helix show, and I got to say, it shocked me how much fun I had for a band where I only knew one song.

Who opened? Do you know? I don't know who opened. Okay. I don't know. Was it a band that opened, or is it just... Yeah, there's always a, like, okay,

so there's a 9 o'clock, there's like a headliner goes on, and at 7.30, there's another band. On Friday night, the 7.30 band, I'm going to ask you to guess who it is in, okay, so there's a 9 o'clock as, like, a headliner goes on, and at 7.30 there's another band. On Friday night, the 7.30 band, I'm going to ask you to guess who it is in a minute, so save that one. But, so, Helix, who have been performing together for longer than I've been alive,

sounded great, like, there was a great energy. Even the songs I didn't know I liked, I just loved the live music. So, the second last, I was wondering, like, when are they going to play Rocky? Because I was just curious, when are they going to play the song I know the words to? And they played it second last, I was wondering like, when are they going to play Rocky? Cause I was just curious when they're going to play the song. I know the words to, and they played it second last. So like around 10,

20, they played that song and then they played a, no, it was all wrapped up by about 10 30, but, uh, they were formed in 1974 and they are from Kitchener. Yeah.

They kept, I think he said on the stage that we've been playing together for 44 years. That's what's crazy. So, uh, so crazy, but yeah, Helix was good. And then, uh, I think he said on the stage that we've been playing together for 44 years. That's what made me so... So crazy. But yeah, Helix was good. And then Friday night, I did not go to see this, but I'm going to play a clip of the 730 band

that played at the same venue Friday night that I had something else to do. But I want you to tell me who you think this might be, okay? Staggerly, went on hold. And he got me in 44. think this might be, okay? I feel like I should know this, but I have no idea. Okay, one more clip here, because I really want you to get this. Oh, I know this song. Great song.

This reminds me of Top Gun. I don't know who sings this song. Focus on the voice just a little bit. I don't know who sings this song, dude. Okay, you want to know who this is? Yeah, I do. This is Spider Jones. It's not I do. This is Spider Jones. It's not Spider Jones.

This is Spider Jones. Like Spider Jones the artist. The only Spider Jones we know of in the Toronto market here. The man you promised to deliver once to Toronto Mike. That's not him. I'll play the staggerly one more time now that you know it's Spider Jones, okay? Listen again, Spider Jones. Listen again. Spider Jones.

Staggerly. Went on home. Staggerly. And he got me. Staggerly. 44. Staggerly. Said I'm going on.

You're shaking your head. You're high. Staggerly. But then I hold. Staggerly. How much of this Great Lakes Brewery did you have before the show started? Okay.

Yes. Okay. Just so you know, that is show started? Okay. Yes. Okay. Just so you know, that is Spider Jones. Okay. Sure. He is the lead singer of an R&B band

that plays at festivals like this and he played Mardi Gras at 7.30 p.m. Friday night. I wish I could have gone over because maybe after the performance I could be,

Spider, let's go down the street and record an episode together. But I did not, I was not available to do that. So Spider Jones was like an opening act, Friday night. He's 70 years old, did you know that?

I did not know that, but he's playing songs that 70 year olds know, that's for sure. So it's all covers and stuff, obviously. He doesn't do original shit, but as a good R&B voice there, that's him. He was the man singing Stock of the Bay there. Spider Jones. Why do you say it like that?

How do you say Spider Jones as Spider Jones? Just say Spider Jones. Spider Jones. No, I'm not saying that. No, I'm incapable of doing that. So, at least can you tell the people at home, you now believe me? No. Okay, well, it's a fact.

I don't. I don't know how to argue with somebody. It's like Marty York's here. No, it, well, it's a fact. I don't. I don't know how to argue with somebody. It's like Marty York's here. No, it's not. It is a fact. So, yeah, if you want to hear Spider Jones do his R&B, I'm sure he's got a website. Google it or whatever.

And he does other performances at different festivals and things. But he was here. So, tonight, I'm going to listen to Sass Jordan. Oh, look at you. Nice. Canada's own. And I'm able to go to Sass Jordan because I had plans to see TFC

tonight that fell through. Right. Well, no, they didn't fall through. I cancelled them. Okay, so you said, hey, so just to set this up, you said, Mike, you want to go to TFC with me? No, I said, do you want to record and then we'll go to TFC. Right. You said, Mike, do you want to record and then go to TFC?

Correct. And then we had a brief discussion about logistics. I said, yes, I do. I said yes to both. Yes. Let's record. Let's go to TFC. Yes.

And then today you said, I will come and record, but I'm not going to TFC. I don't want to go to TFC anymore. So now I can go to SAS Jordan. I'm sorry. I was going to miss the first hour of SAS and now I'm going to be able to what we're saying. I'm sorry. I was going to miss the first hour of Sass, and now I'm going to be able to hear the whole thing. I'm sorry. You should.

Speaking of TFC, can you tell me what the TFC supporters think of the Argo so far? Is it a marriage that's going to work? No. So tell us. Get your own fucking home. If you're such a great... But who owns BMO?

The city owns BMO, right? They own part of it. I can't remember what the actual structure is. Maybe it's not your fucking home to keep the Argos out. No, it is. It's the Toronto FC's home.

Absolutely it is. But they don't own the stadium. I'm not sure if the ownership shifted once they put in $150 million of their own money given that the stadium...

Okay, but whoever owns BMO has said the Argos can play there. Yeah, I don't know who owns it, though, in terms of entirety. Okay, but this has happened. So we've had three games there so far, three regular season games. Correct.

I think five people went to all three. Well, let's talk about that. So they had a pretty good turnout for the first game, which I almost went to. No, they didn't. How many people went? Because I have the number

for the second game here. The first number was, what was it, like 16,000 or something? I feel like it was more than that. But people who went there said there was no more than 10. The first game? Yeah. The one I almost went to, except James had a graduation from grade 8. I can Google it.

I feel it might be 24. I believe that they report ticket sales and not attendance. Oh, not a giveaway. They're one of those things. I'm not sure how the CFL does. I could Google might be 24. I believe that they report ticket sales and not attendance. Oh, not a giveaway? They're one of those things. I'm not sure how the CFL does. I could Google that as well. So you look up the number for the first game. I have the number here for the second game, which is 12,373 people.

Yeah, I can't remember any time that I've seen that few people at a TFC game ever. That's what I want to talk about. So the excuses were many, but the first excuse was, oh, it's Tuesday night. Yeah, you know how many fucking shitty nights TFC's played on

and there's still 20,000 fucking people there when there was only 20,000 people that that thing could hold? It's, yeah, it's whatever. People are making up any excuses they want

because they want it to work and maybe it will work and maybe it does need time. Who knows? But if you if you're complaining about oh it's so hard to get to like who oh yeah that was the other thing who says cne is hard to get to with transit are you like you guys are crazy i agree with you it is not hard to get there and there's ttc i know there's no streetcars out right now but there's a shit ton of buses. There's a thing called Uber. And there's two things on your legs called feet, provided you have them, where you can walk

realistically. Come on, the Blue Jays played at the same location for It's just a bunch of excuses. Yeah, for 12 years. Third, I went to the home opener for TFC and I've been to a couple other games since. And there's 30,000 fucking people for real in that

stadium. They don't just announce some bullshit number. It is packed. And then you look at a CFL game and there's, you know, to say no one is there is not, I'm not, it's not hyperbole. It's, it's, there's not a lot of people there. Um, and, and that has nothing to do with the day of the game. It has more to do with the, the, the, the product and with the day of the game. It has more to do with the product and what people think of the product, frankly. And the price. The prices are fucking crazy. I don't know the prices,

because I was getting free tickets. It's like a hundred bucks to, like in, you know, not the greatest seats. Wow. It's crazy. I'm surprised by that. Yeah. I did write an entry on TorontoMic.com

in which we had an amazing, I found it to be one of the more enlightening, interesting discussions. It was a lot of people just discussing how do you fix this? Is it fixable? What's wrong with the Argos attendance at BMO Field? I was shocked that game number two

only had a reported crowd of 12,000 because that's the shortest honeymoon in the history of anything. This is your new venue. Apparently, it looks good there. I can imagine that'd be a great place to see a football game. And if you're only drawing 12,000 in your second ever regular season game there,

that's a bad sign, man. It's a really, really bad sign. And you're right. TFC's never that low. If you Google Toronto Argos attendance 2016, by the way, your blog post comes up number two. Number two of a bullet. Yeah, that's the discussion.

And there's like many interesting comments on that entry as to how we can fix this, if it is fixable. So the home opener, they say, was 24,812. That's what I thought, 24,000. So I thought the home opener was fine. I mean, it's not fine, dude. 30,000 people are in that. And you get 30,000 people

for a regular season game. But if the Argos averaged 24,000 this season, I suspect they would find that to be a great, great progress considering they're coming out of that Cavernous Dome.

No, if everything was as great as they said it was, there would be 30,000 people there in the home opener. It's the home fucking opener. Okay, okay. Regardless, you're down to 12,000

in game number two. If you're going to get a casual fan, you're going to get a casual fan on the fucking home opener. I'm trying not to hate on the Argos because I do not hate them. I want them to succeed. I also feel,

and you know I have the arguments all the time, Raptors versus Argos. This keeps coming up with people like Freddie P, CFL lady who in her handle is super biased or whatever but people will tell me because the reported tv ratings for a regular season argo game is higher than the reported tv rating i'm talking about nationally by the way

for the raptors they will use that one nugget of info cherry pick that one number and tell me that the raptors are less popular than the argos in toronto and it always makes me like if i'm drinking a coffee i spit it out because it's not even i live in this city and uh it's not even close it's not even close you'll have more people at jurassic park to watch a game then you'll get in the fucking bimo field to see a game they have they had 3,600 season tickets sold in the month of january which brings them to just over 7,000 season tickets that is nuts you know how many see what percentage of those seats in in bimo for tfc are season tickets it's like in the 90s and you they cap it right like i know the argo's and leafs cap their season tickets well the argo's are not in the 90s. It's insane. And they cap it, right? I know the Argos and Leafs cap their season tickets.

Correct. Well, the Argos are not forget the Leafs. They can go forever. But the Raptors have said we are no longer selling season tickets. Correct.

And the Argos are not capping it at $7,000. No, no, no. 7,000 seats in a 30,000 seat stadium. No, they are not. Because that's guaranteed income whether people go or not. I found a CFL forum

where somebody said they had heard from an insider that they had sold 15,000 seasons tickets and then they were basically, this is way back before this is like, I don't know, March or something and they couldn't believe like oh my god, we're going to be like

there's going to be more demand than, like they were celebrating the amazing success, the move to BMO had fixed everything this is the one, all the Argos fans are coming out of the woodwork now because they're at BMO and the reality is, as you just reported that on game number two, they only drew 12,000. There's just a serious apathy and disinterest in CFL football in Toronto. If only there was a dedicated train stop and streetcar stop at CNE.

That would probably solve a lot of... Oh, wait a minute. There already is. Yeah. And Kate Biernes, because of course TSN has the has the CFL rights, and TSN's owned by Bell, and Bell owns the Argos, and there's a whole thing there. I saw that she was in Liberty Village giving out tickets to game number three. So you just had to come up to her in one of the locals. Crazy. Yeah.

And they would give you tickets, which is fine. I still, in Liberty Village, as you know, I don't live in Liberty Village, but it seems like that is TFC turf. Absolutely. And it feels like the TFC people don't like the Argos. People like you, they're mad they're there. It's not that we don't like the Argos. It's that we don't want the Argos fucking up our field.

That's really what it is. But three games in, have they been fucking up your, I guess four if you count the preseason, are they fucking up your field? I haven't seen. But you could today. You want to go? You want to go to the game?

I could have been there today. But it's the field for when they had to change the field, so it's no longer completely natural grass, which is what it should be. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not completely natural grass. Not anymore. You can't be. It can't be.

I didn't know that. Because of the wear and tear on the field, on the pitch. So it has to be more of a 50-50 blend. You know, I didn't know that. I'm the wear and tear on the field. So it has to be on the pitch. So it has to be more of a 50-50 blend. You know, I didn't know that. I'm glad you're here. Yeah. Which is because, I mean, MLSC spent millions of dollars putting in real grass, real turf into that stadium. So I don't know.

Who knows? You know, TFC fucked it up when they didn't get U of T and they didn't get York. You know, and the city felt sorry for them and let them go into BMO. So, we'll see how long that lasts. Because what matters most to Bell, I'm guessing, is

TV ratings. And because CFL TV ratings, for whatever reason, probably because of other provinces. Every other market except for Toronto, they do very, very well. Right. Extremely well. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, you're right. So the ratings are strong nationally for CFL games. TSN

makes their money on that. Correct. You need a team in Toronto for the CFL. They'll artificially prop one up if they have to. Sure. So this whole attendance thing, yes, they're trying to get more popular to make extra money or whatever. But just the fact that they have...

It's a made-for-TV product is what I'm saying. The Argos. But it shouldn't be because football is awesome to watch in real life. So is the reason Toronto doesn't support the football team because Toronto wants an NFL team? Well, this is a... No, I don't think it has anything to do with that. I think it's a bigger question than BMO or not BMO because they have supported the Argos in the past,

even recent past. But you can't have a team that doesn't have any names, right? And arguably, they have one of the best quarterbacks of all time on the team right now. But that's about it. I can't really name anybody else. They don't have, they need a certain splash. They need, you know, they need something

to bring attention away from the other teams. And the eras in which they were doing well, I think the other teams weren't doing well that played in the summer. And when you're up against the Blue Jays, who are doing very well, and TFC, who is exciting and a new competitor, it's going to be really tough for them to compete.

Really, really tough. You mentioned down the street, well, kind of down the street, I guess, but east of there, you've got, you know, Blue Jays are essentially selling out every game now because, and I have it too. I wonder if you have it. Do you have Blue Jays fever? Sure.

I'm excited about that. I mean, I've been. Can you give me a score check? Because it was 1-0 when we started. I was just looking that up right now. Because I'm at a point now, and I know it's only, and I've been at this point for a little bit now, but we're playing Baltimore.

We're a half game up right now. We could sweep the series if we went today. I'm already scoreboard. I know it's early. It's July 31. I'm already scoreboard watching, and I'm already checking the standings every day. I'm already in pennant race mode on July 30th.

Well, this is the time to start being in that. It's good to be in that. It's two, two, uh, the Orioles score two at the top of seven. And now we're in the,

we're still in the seventh. Um, yeah, we're still in the top of the seventh. Is that the score app you use? Yes. Yeah. I use the score.

Yeah. My boy likes it too. Okay. They did a good job with that app. Um, so yeah, so, uh, blue Jays, uh, hopefully we pull this one out My boy likes it too. Okay. They did a good job on that app. So yeah, so Blue Jays, hopefully we pull this one out and we can sweep the Orioles

and then we'd be a game and a half up heading into August, which would be awesome. Yeah, definitely. It'd be interesting to see if they add anybody else. And they're doing it still, I believe, in spite of our manager.

But hey. But that's baseball. Yeah, that's baseball. I hope Sanchez stays as a starter. It would be a shame to take our best starter and put him in the pen because of some unscientific feeling about pitch count. Yeah, but a lot of baseball is that, right? It's all this feeling bullshit.

I miss the Jack Morris days when you just threw until the arm fell off. Let's go 11 innings if you have to. What can you do? Okay, listen to this. I have to tell you something about this. Homer, a man who called himself you-know-who just invited you to a secret wink-wink at the you-know-what. You certainly are popular now that

you're a stonecutter. Oh, yeah. Beer bust, beer blast, keggers, steinhoist, AA meetings, beer night. It's wonderful, Marge. I've never felt so accepted in all my life. These people look deep within my soul and assign me a number based on the order in which I joined.

All this is to say is that I've discovered a Simpsons podcast. Oh, really called are you a strong cutter i have the homer stonecutter uh figurine oh somewhere upstairs yeah so uh am i stonecutter steve goodenberg and i are stonecutters so uh you know steve goodenberg was in the police academy and they filmed it down the street did you know that they did a couple of them there was one of the first one for sure the one of janet gretzky on the water uh what would that be number four number six six she's on the water in a jet ski and they and they film it just so like they cut just before you see the cn tower you never actually see the cn tower but it's no

very much probably we're playing new york or something who knows okay so uh stone cutter song why am i playing that oh yeah so this podcast is called uh talking simpsons like okay talking kind of like i guess talking softball like talking with a apostrophe right after the end you got it gotcha and i uh stumbled upon it somewhere in my like podcast sampling travels or whatever and then what they do is three Simpsons fanatics, they watch an episode on their own. They watch an episode. And then they sit down like we are right now. And they play clips and talk about the episode in great detail.

And they're going each episode at a time. They're on like season four now, I think. Oh, they're going in order. Yes. They started with one and then they're going in order. Gotcha. Okay. So I'll go on a bike ride and i'll listen to these episodes and it's almost

like i'm watching these classic episodes like you got a lot of clips and you get really inside baseball kind of factoids like some of it i've heard when i listen to my dvds on audio the audio secondary audio where the what's that called commentary what's it sure yeah and some of it is stuff i didn't know and they'll even tell you when a guest star has passed away and then this is the first appearance of Marvin Monroe or whatever and always a tribute to the great characters

played by Phil Hartman but if you're a Simpsons fanatic like I am, this is a great podcast. Sounds horrible but I'm happy for you. So you're not a Simpsons fanatic? Not a Simpsons fanatic. No, I like the Simpsons but I would be torture I you. So you're not a Simpsons fanatic? Not a Simpsons fanatic. Oh. No, I like the Simpsons, but I would be torture, I think. But you're

an Aerosmith fan, right? Yes. So you probably, you must have seen this episode. Have you ever seen the Flaming Moes episode? Yes. Okay. Did you enjoy it? Sure. I like the Simpsons. And it didn't make you a Simpsons fanatic fanatic no i'm not a fanatic by any stretch no not at all when was the last time you watched a new episode do you watch

it every sunday still uh no but i have a plan you want to hear my plan you want to hear my plan no when uh i'm gonna tell you anyways when i'm old older i should say and i'm like riding out the last wave here before i uh disappear from this world sure i am going to like riding out the last wave here before I disappear from this world. Sure. I am going to like watch all the symptoms. I'm going to just get comfy and watch all, stream all the symptoms episodes I didn't watch. Good for you.

Because I own the first 10 seasons on DVD. Right. I figure we're going, I don't know when they're going to start. What are they on, 24, 25? 27, I think. 27. So let's say they go 30 seasons.

I'm going to make this up. You don't need to fact check with me. Well, I just want to make sure that we're giving the listeners Let's say they go 30 seasons, okay? But why would they stop now? Because if a primary cast member passes away,

they're going to call this thing. This is how I think it's going to go. Is that what you think? Yeah. Why? I just feel like The Muppets still go and Jim Henson's dead. He created the whole fucking thing. Okay.

I'm telling you my thoughts on this. So my feeling is you have the core cast members. You know, they could survive a Phil Hartman because of his guest roles, but I don't think... I'm not saying one of these guys is going to die, but let's say one of the primary cast members

dies. I feel like they would call it. That's feeling what do i know 596 episodes 27 seasons there you go so uh on my deathbed essentially i'm going to watch them all and find peace and feel good and smile and then i'll just 28 then i'll die 28th season will start in September. And if you do like The Simpsons a lot, which you should, find... I have nothing... I don't even produce. I wish I was the Talkin' Simpsons producer, but I'm not.

What a fantastic job they do over there. What else did I want to share with you? I'm going to take a trip out east. Have you ever been out east? I have. I was in Halifax a few weeks ago. Yeah, my brother goes to Halifax for work sometimes. It's very small. It's nice. It's lovely, but it's very small. Because this is,

all six of us are driving to Prince Edward Island, and we have all these. Who's all six? Well, I have four children and a wife, so it's me plus four children. That sounds horrible. What it means, it's interesting for a road trip. I don't know if you would do a road trip with like a four-month-old and a two-year-old. No, not at all. Because it means you can only drive X hours a day and you can only drive X hours straight. So it changes all the rules. It's horrible. It's horrible if you could drive straight.

It's even worse if you had to stop. I'm actually looking forward to it. You're nuts. What are you driving? What automobile looking forward to it. You're nuts. What are you driving? What automobile company is lending you a car? GM is lending me a Traverse. Oh, a Traverse. Nice.

Should have gone for something bigger. I haven't seen it yet because I pick it up in a couple of weeks. You should have got a Yukon or something. So a Traverse is not that big. I know it seats seven people. Oh, yeah. But any SUV seats seven people. Except the Mazda 5, which seats six people. No.

Mazda 5 seats six. Yeah, that's very confusing, isn't it? Because the Mazda 6 is a whole different car. Okay. But, yeah, so we're in a Traverse and we have, like, Monica has already like, we've already booked, like, cottages along the way. Right, okay. So it's like, I know So how long is it taking you to drive out there well i've got two weeks off work yeah so if you're looking for a new episode there'll be two weeks where you won't find one can i have borrow key

maybe i'll come in and uh may i borrow a feeling what uh when are you leaving i think i'm two more weeks before i think i know i know how this works i get to go to the hip concert before i leave so i'm going to the hip concert which we're gonna get to the hip concert. I'm going to the hip concert, which we're going to get to. Which is Friday? You're going to the Friday show or Saturday show? Friday. You're Sunday.

Sunday. You're Sunday, right? I'm Sunday. When are you leaving? Sunday. Sunday. You can't go to the show with me? I wasn't sure.

I threw it out of Facebook that you have to take me. Yes. You said yes, but it really was so flimsy. I didn't want to hold you to it. I figured you might want to take maybe the missus. I didn't know what you wanted. So, um,

cause I actually would love to see the Sunday show because that's the final Toronto show. Well, if you want to come, you can come, but if you're going to be driving, you can't come. Correct.

And at the time, the funny thing is when I bought the Friday ticket, that was the final Toronto show. Like they added the Sunday. So it was like a little bait and switch on me. Like, wait a minute, you moved the target on me there. Can we talk about that for a minute? Sure. final Toronto show. They added the Sundays. It was like a little bait and switch on me. Wait a minute. You moved the target on me there.

Can we talk about that for a minute? Sure. The hip show? Or the hip? Yeah, let's talk about the hip. How many times have you seen these guys? I can tell you exactly. Now I'm trying to remember.

11? I think I've seen them six. It's the band I've seen. I'm trying to remember. Pearl Jam I've seen them six. It's the band I've seen... I'm trying to remember. Pearl Jam I've seen nine times, but I believe The Hip is the band number one on my list of frequency. Number one for me would be Barenaked Ladies.

How many times have you seen BNL? It's got to be up in the dozens. Like a dozen or more. Did you hear about the super group? Yes, I did. That's fucking great. That's really cool. Highway, Canada, Trans Canada Highway.

Yeah, like the... The Highwaymen? Yeah, it's Canada's version of the Traveling Wilburys, they said. Right, right. Yeah, it looks like a great fucking band. Sloan, B&L. Fuck, who else is it? Just fucking classic Canadian bands.

Moberg. Yes. Moberg from Pursuit of Happiness. Yes, yes, yes. And there's the fourth band, but it's the guy, I don't remember his name, but there's a guy from... I want to say ELO, but it's not ELO. Not ELO. God Christ, what is it?

I can't remember, I should Google it. So I know it's Chris Murphy from Sloan. That's right. And... What'd you say it was? Trans-Canada? Trans-Canada Highway. It's Stephen Page, Chris Murphy,

Moe Berg, and the guy who I don't know from the list. And what band is he from? This is the fun part of the podcast where you're Googling something and I'm just listening to A Head by a Century. I can listen to this. We haven't recorded since the news came out. Do you know?

We have not. Do you know they played this song at the stroke of midnight in 1999. I was at the hip show where New Year's Eve 1999. Going into 2000? Correct. So they stopped with like, I don't know, a minute left. In bre Going into 2000? Correct. So they stop, like with like, I don't know, a minute left.

In breads. See? Okay. So the four Canadian bands, that's the one I'm less familiar with. Okay. So they stop like a minute left before midnight.

And this is like when Y2K was old and whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I had a concert because that's my band. And then they do a countdown on the ACC display, whatever, screen. And then they go into A Head by ACC display, whatever, screen.

And then they go into A Head by a Century. Nice. That's good. That makes sense. It was very good. So you're not a Simpsons fanatic, but you're a hip fanatic. No. Because you went six times.

I'm not a fanatic. What does it take to be a fanatic in your world? Isn't fanatic like fan is short from fanatic? Correct. You like to label me as a fanatic of everything when I say I like something. Just Aerosmith and ACDC. That's right. And TFC. And Simpsons and Tragically Hip.

Well, you're not a Simpsons fanatic, but you are a hip fanatic because you saw them six times live. So, you enjoy the hip. I do, very much so. You pay real money to see these guys. They were a soundtrack to many, many, many of a summer for me in my life as I was growing up in high school and university. This was the band that you could go to a cottage in the summertime

and never hear any other song except for a Tragically Hip song that was being DJed by us. being, you know, DJ'd by us. Um, so, you know, uh, as much as, you know, there's, uh, there's a few artists that I would say would, you know, if you were to, if I were to create a, uh, Broadway play and, and be able to put together my own soundtrack, um, the hip would definitely be part of it. Absolutely. I own every single one of their albums. I've purchased every single one of their albums. I've, like you said, paid real money to see them live. And I'm very, very sad to not be able to see them live ever again after that show that will happen. I think it's August 12th. And then I'll watch the CBC live final concert from Kingston, I guess, a week later, two weeks later.

August 20th, because I had to map where I'll be that day, and I will be in Cape Redden. So make sure you got a TV. Right. You don't even need cable. That's true. CBC's carrying it, and they're streaming it too, and I won't miss that. So that's August 20, and I'm in Cape Redden, and I'm going to be

watching that final hip show for sure. And I'm very much looking, I'm going by myself. I only have one ticket to this Friday show. So I'm going to like literally just, to me, it's going to be very like cathartic. Like I'm going to bike to this, to the ACC and by myself for the,

sadly for the last time, I'm going to watch my favorite Canadian, my favorite band, forget Canada, my favorite band of all time. I'm going to go to one more concert and then I'm going to kind of bike by myself along the water going home that night and just sort of like...

Interestingly, I bought two tickets but they're in sections side by side. So I will be by myself as well. I thought you were lucky enough to get a ticket. No, I was impossible to get tickets. And actually I didn't buy them. A friend of mine who was navigating

her computer at the same time I was, she was able to get lucky enough to get the two tickets and I was not. So she bought them on my behalf. I'm excited and sad,

but I'm excited that it's going to be a good show. We have another clip. Sorry, but there's nothing more Canadian than a loon at the opening of a song.

We're in the woods. Mike, stop touching me. Don't spoil this moment, Elvis. I'm having a moment. What's your favorite album? And this is so tough to do with these great bands, but it depends on your mood, right? I'm going to pick a greatest hits album.

Your favorites? Yeah, I mean... Your favorites was the two CD greatest hits collection. Probably one of, like... Fuck, I don't even know, man. I mean, your favorites was the two CD greatest hits. Yeah. Probably one of like, fuck, I don't even know, man.

I still remember the, and I started this song. What a great song this is. But now I wish I had started this one because I have a story about it real quick here. I remember like this would have, this was a band that I would like wait for the day that the album would be released and get in line to go buy it. It's crazy to think that I would have ever done that. I did that for Use Your Illusion 1 and 2. I did not.

Speaking of that, I saw Guns N' Roses at the Skydome. But I can't imagine doing that now because you wouldn't have to. You don't have to. You just go on iTunes and buy it. I did that for Versus, Pearl Jam's Versus. And Nirvana's In Utero. I did that for it. And I did it for a lot of hip albums.

It's true. It's crazy. I saw them like, I remember Molson Park. Of course, I saw them. I saw them there a bunch of times. I saw Metallica up there as well. I think they might have played with Metallica. No.

I don't think so. Or maybe it must have been like back-to-back weekends or something. For some reason in my head, Metallica and Tragically Hip are connected. I was thinking about Molson Park and Barry recently because I went to a lot of Edge Fests, okay? Right. And Somersault, which was the Our Lady Peace. Right. They ran that one.

Yeah, good for them. You don't like Our Lady Peace, do you? I hate them. They're horrible. They're horrible. You know, their drummer was a guest on the show. Did you know that? You know, Rain's real name is Mike?

I did not know that. He doesn't like anyone knowing that. Well, now I'm going to tell everybody. But I saw Radiohead at Molson Park in Barrie. I saw a bunch of Edge Fest, including at least one where the headliners were the Tragic Rehab. Did you go to Sarstok? No, I did not. You did not?

No. I'm surprised. Yeah, I didn't go to Sarstok. So you didn't go to the biggest concert in Toronto history? And you're Toronto Mike. It's interesting. I'm full of surprises. You hate healthcare workers then?

No, I love healthcare workers. You're not a fanatic for healthcare workers? I was pro SARS doc I just didn't actually go if it happened like I think if it was happening this next weekend I would go like at this point in my life

I would go I don't know why I didn't go why now? I wouldn't go now I would not go now I would hate to go to a festival now I'm like everything's like awesome

Guns N' Roses reminded me how much I hate fucking people it was horrible experience yeah but I'm out there it was a horrible experience okay when I hear about this experience I went to see Helix

yesterday okay so that's where I'm at in my life ridiculous and I had a great fucking time yeah good for you it's crazy

tell me about Guns N' Roses first of all can you tell me this is Slash is there yes Slash and Duff and Axl Rose and Duff

and Duff McKagan correct he sings a song okay tell me how it was phenomenal two and a half hours end to end they came on stage on time it was phenomenal axl can sing better than i've seen him i saw him at uh in london when he was playing with buckethead um axl can still hit every single note slash is still one of the world's best guitarists Duff, you know, Duff is Duff It was phenomenal I wish I had gone

Why didn't you tell me you were going? I would have gone with you Phenomenal I would have gone to that Well, because I was holding I had, that was another show where I bought two tickets And didn't have a guest And then I was like, oh, Mike will go with me to Tragically Hip

And I'll bring somebody else to But you know that Appetite for Destruction I bought that in 88 Look at you And I still have it It was fucking great, man hip and I'll bring somebody else to Guns N' Roses. But you know that Appetite for Destruction, I bought that in 88. Look at you. And I still have it. It was fucking great, man. They had a whole bunch of covers that they

played that was, it was just so great. It was a great show beginning to end. It was phenomenal. It was so great. I saw Velvet Revolver once and they played

a lot of Guns N' Roses. So Scott Weiland doing the actual part. Which is I think part of the reason why it took them so long to get back together. But dude,

it was like 50,000 people or whatever it was close to. The dome was packed. I mean the sound was shit but it was phenomenal. It was really just a great show.

It was a really good show. So the Guns N' Roses was better than Helix. Probably. Well. What was the encore song? It's hard to. What did they close with?

It's hard to. They closed with Paradise City yeah when does November Rain get played towards the end yeah and they played

the piano came out through the so you didn't see the piano come up through the stage because it was dark yeah but then when he finished the piano

went down through the stage it was it was really fucking good and then Axl did the amazing solo it was I mean it was it was just great it was great you know Axl did the amazing solo. It was just great. It was great.

You know, Axl, he looks his age a little bit, but he's still got the pipes, man. I don't know what he did, but he's fucking back with a vengeance. It's great. I'm very disappointed with this. It was really, really good. That was...

So, Appetite for Destruction, I was in love with the cassette. I had that cassette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when... They played Patience, man. They played Patience. And he fucking wh with the cassette. I had that cassette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then when... They played Patience, man. They played Patience. And he fucking whistled.

That's the other thing. So me and my buddy Joe were obsessed with Lies. Yeah. Because that had Mama Kin on it. Yeah. Speaking of your favorite

band of all time, Aerosmith. Yeah. And it had that one, I used to love her, but I had to kill her. She bitched so much it drove me nuts

and I can still hear her complain. We thought that was like the... I know, it's crazy lyrics, right? You're like, oh my God, I can't believe you're saying this. But Patience was like the epic, like, oh my God, it was like slow,

and then it was hard, and then you had to whistle, and then we all tried to mimic it. Fucking, fucking love that band. It was awesome. Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 were the first, and the Black Album,

I bought all three at the same time. They were the first CDs I ever bought. CDs. Wow. CDs. What was my first CD? I've got to think on that one. But opening day of Use Your Illusion,

like in my high school, in my crowd, that was like marked on the calendar. Yeah, it was Christmas. And I remember the big discussion was which was better. And we would flip-flop back and forth. Because the lead single was from Terminator 2. That's right. And so that had like the head start, if you will.

But then the other one had, was it Don't Cry? Yeah, they had Don't Cry and Civil War. But there's two versions of Don't Cry. No, two versions of Civil War, isn't there? Or is it Don't Cry? No, it's Don't Cry. I'm going way back. I remember two versions of Don't Cry,

like one on each one. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. And you remember It? No, the one against uh bob guccioni jr and uh fucking what was that song they talk in trash and bob guccioni jr oh my god i'm going back to the use your illusion days okay let me give you these track lists okay go so use your illusion one right next door to hell, dust and bones,

live and let die, don't cry, perfect crime, you ain't the first, bad obsession, back off, bitch, double talk and jive, November rain,

the garden, garden of Eden, don't damn me, bad apples, dead horse, and then coma. Then, yes,

then, hold on. Fuck. Sorry. We need some on. Fuck. Sorry. We need some Guns N' Roses right now. With your bitch slap wrapping in your cocaine tongue, you get nothing done. Please stop.

Please stop. That was a great video. There was five singles from Use Your Illusion 2. And so you had Civil War, 14 Years, Yesterdays, Knocking on Heaven's Door, Get in the Ring, Shotgun Blues, Breakdown, Pretty Tight Up, Locomotive, So Fine, Estranged, You Could Be Mine, Don't Cry,

Alternate Lyrics, and then My World. Don't, Get in the Ring was the one against Bob Guccione. Yes. Get in the Ring, motherfucker. You're just pissed off because your dad gets more pussy than you do. It's fucking great. Epic, epic, and I don't use that word very often. Get in the ring, motherfucker. You're just pissed off because your dad gets more pussy than you do. It's fucking great. Epic. Epic.

And I don't use that word very often. The cassette I had for Appetite for Destruction, because I remember it had controversial artwork in there. It looked like a woman had been raped. Yes. And it had written in there, written in the liner notes was, with your cocaine,

wait, with your bitch slap wrapping in your cocaine tongue, you get nothing done or whatever. That was in the liner notes. And then when the video, because much music played the shit out of You Could Be Mine. Big time. And it was awesome because, first of all, Terminator 2 was fucking awesome. It was, yeah. And that video with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

And then the kid in that fucking movie had the Public Enemy t-shirt. It was like the synergy, a collective of everything I loved at the time like like terminator 2 and public enemy and and fucking guns and roses and it all came together and that lyric and i remember i heard when i first saw the video and like they had those words were in that song and i'm like those are the fucking words i read a million times in the liner notes of appetite for destruction dude appetite for destruction had 12 songs on it and five of them were singles. Well, first of all, we're going to talk about this. You're going to do that.

Read them out to me. But I got to say right now, I still put Mr. Brownstone on my fucking mixes when I go for bike rides. It's great. It's great. I get up around seven. I used to get up around nine.

It's fucking great. It's So Easy, Welcome to the Jungle, Sweet Child of Mine, Paradise City, Night Train. Imagine just those five songs alone. That's way more than Helix has. And you't got to my michelle yet it's it's fucking great it is it's yeah they i'm just a huge fan so and then you have mr mr brownstone of course and you have um yeah rocket queen where he's actually having sex with a girl in the studio at the end right uh and my michelle of course so yeah, pretty, yeah, it was a really, really good show

and they've definitely, it was long overdue for them to come back and I'm glad they did. I don't know, I wish I had, you know why? Because my hard drive failed like a few weeks ago, just before John Gallagher's appearance.

My hard drive in this MacBook here died, like it died and I had to take it to the geniuses. You're an Apple guy, so you'll appreciate it. I went to Sherwood Gardens. I had to make an appointment online. Yes, of course, yes. And I said like 11 o'clock and like it was yeah it was july 4th and i'm there i

bike over with my laptop and i'm there and the guy's like he does a whole bunch of tests and he tries to do a million things and he says okay you need a new physical hard drive and i'm okay and i'm thinking oh great it's gonna be cheaper to buy a new fucking laptop than get this hard drive and he goes it'll be 129 dollars for the hard drive oh nice and i'm like i could actually like i think i like like i would pay that money for this so i did it anyway i lost all my music that was on the laptop because i used to be able to 10 seconds no but i have a backed up but i don't have it on this yet but can't you call iron service doesn't it isn't it backed up with iron service yeah no but the

episodes aren't that's for sure Ion Service is a good man I hear he has monster calves that's what I hear I know and I haven't seen his calves he was wearing pants you know who told me that Humble Howard told me that he's got monster calves

does he bike a lot or run a lot I don't know I've never asked him about this but they went golfing together and he's got monster calves. Humble's checking out calves. But I'm jealous. I gotta say this, since you're here, and I'm not gonna bore Avery Haynes with this shit. I had my

first ever 1,000 kilometer month of biking in May 2016. So May 2016 was the first month, because I record all my rides. It was the first month of my life I cleared 1,000 kilometers biking. Do it in a day and I'll be impressed. Wait, let me do the math on that.

So what are you averaging now a ride? Because you were doing something like. 32 to 35 a ride. So you're doing something wimpy. But here's the thing. You were doing 20 to 25 before. Yeah, it was a time thing, you know. So I have 1,000 kilometers in May.

And then in June, I beat that record. And I did like 1,100. I'm actually going to fall short of 1,000 for July, which ends today. I think I'm 900 and change or something. Why don't you go for a ride again? I was going to go bike to TFC. But it wasn't going to be long enough to get me to 1,000. Like, I'm not going to be able to do it.

So you don't, like, for me, my OCD would go crazy and want to be like i have to go for a ride and get to a thousand see i don't have even if it was just to ride out get to a thousand and then walk back but i'm like 80 kilometers short like you would so go for a fucking 80 kilometer bike ride i don't come on he man i don't think i have time you're gonna brag about your thousand kilometer month i think you can do fucking 80 kilometers in a day those are those are the only 2,000 kilometer months of my life. May and June 2016. I don't have the OCD thing. I let the chips fall where they may.

I bike when I can. And if I can't. Okay. Post your fucking July results on your blog. And I'm going after you. No, I don't have any reason to. Because I fell short of 1,000. Can't wait.

Hey, guys. I know no one cares. But here's how much I biked this month. Don't I do that on Facebook? No. Do you? I don't know if you do or not. I don't wait. Hey, guys, I know no one cares, but here's how much I biked this month. Don't I do that on Facebook? No. Do you? I don't know if you do or not. I don't know.

I'm trying to. Last year, I did every month. I did an update on my biking on Trinomike.com. Yeah. But I haven't been doing that in 2016. Oh, you haven't? Oh, because I didn't care then and I don't care now. But I would search it out now.

When I hit 1,000, I might have done like a, hey, my first ever 1,000. Right. Probably. Probably. So that was one entry in 2016. Yeah your marathon training going it's good i run i've got a so i don't know did i tell you about um what i did in in january well no i don't know if you've been in since i did the i don't know fucking been a long time that's fair that's fair uh well you do like four episodes a week now, so given that I was in episode 171.

Come on. No, I think the last time I was in, you were doing four in that week. I had one crazy week. Yeah, you squeezed me in. You're like, yeah, you can come in, but I'm doing like four. They happen in bunches, man. So I did the Dopey Challenge in January, which is... Oh, it's a Disney thing. A Disney thing. It was horrible.

Not just the whole Disney thing is horrible. I don't like it. But they do this crazy thing called the Dopey Challenge. You do 5K on Thursday, 10K on Friday, half marathon on Saturday. What is Dopey? Dopey's a dwarf, right? So it's not like, I thought it would be like a goofy challenge. Goofy challenge is something else.

So the Dopey Challenge is 5K on Thursday, 10K on Friday, half marathon on Saturday, full marathon on Sunday. The Goofy Challenge is half and full on Saturday, Sunday. So I did the Dopey Challenge. And then I'm doing the Dublin Marathon again in the fall, in October. And then I'm also going to do a half marathon in Disney, California, so I can get a whole bunch more medals from them. Okay. So these are trips you're making,

personal trips you're going to make to these destinations. Correct. Well, the Dublin trip is personal, yes, but the trip to Disney, I can get covered to San Francisco and then I'll get to Los Angeles myself. Does the family join you in Dublin? The family will not join me in Dublin, I don't think.

Maybe join me in California. So you're going to take a solo trip to Ireland for this. Correct. Must be nice. Well, I mean, I do that all the time anyway. So Mrs. Elvis doesn't want to get grandma or somebody to watch the kids and come out to Dublin. I'll let you talk to Mrs. Elvis about that yourself. Maybe the trade-off will be she can come to Dublin if she allows you to sell the house in northern Oshawa.

Right. And move to New Toronto where you would love it. Very close to BMO Field. You would love it. It's close to Mimico though too. I hate Mimico. Mimico's alright. Come on. I don't like Mimico. Mimico's alright. That's where Brendan Shanahan's

from and that's where Dave Boland's from. So be nice too. And the greatest Maple Leaf of all time, David Clarkson. He's still in Columbus? Yeah. He was injured, I think. He's a clusterfuck of a hockey player, but I hear he's a very nice man. He's a very nice man.

Is he a clusterfuck? He's a very nice man. I don't think he's a clusterfuck, is he? Well, he's always hurt. He wasn't a clusterfuck in New Jersey for one season, and he's been living there all So, David Clarkson, I don't know. I still can't believe we offloaded that contract. Who did that again?

Was that Dave Nones? Dave Nones. Nones, yeah. You know how they're putting statues of Maple Leafs? They're building one at a time. They're going to have Johnny Bauer or whatever outside of the ACC. Yeah, isn't Tim Horton is getting one? And deservedly so.

But why not a Dave Nona statue for that trade right there? Who is it? There's three people, right? Red Kelly. Red Kelly, Tim Horton, and someone else. I can't remember. It better be Wendell. Turk Broda?

It's not Wendell? Is it Turk Broda? No, I don't think it's Wendell. I think he's got to get a little bit older for that. I heard Morgan Riley's getting one No What's his name? Oh you want to give it to Austin Matthews

So my son He's in the Hall of Fame now isn't he? I recorded My wife recorded me and James Watching the draft So the Leafs were making their pick So there's a recording I saw the skill shot

of you guys. So James and I, and James, bless his heart, was never sure we were going to do the right thing until he heard the words Austin Matthews or whatever. And I was trying to reassure him

that this was actually like 100% happening. They're not going to fuck this up. They're actually drafting Austin Matthews. But until he heard, they said from the Swiss League or something. And until he heard that they said from the Swiss League or something.

Until he heard that, and you have to see the video, my boy who's like he's kind of a reserved guy. He's not gregarious like us. Correct. You're not gregarious either. But you're gregarious. Yes, I am. So he's not like Uncle Elvis at all. I love this video because it's like James

he doesn't even like his photo being taken, but here he is just holding me, digging his head, he's burying it. He's this big man digging his head into my chest. So afraid. Oh, this is nervous. He was so afraid it wasn't going to be Austin Matthews.

And I say to him, it's on the recording, I say to him like, James, this is a certainty. We're drafting Austin Matthews. That's great. He didn't believe it until he heard it. It's great. I love it. But this is a certainty. We're drafting Austin Matthews. That's great. He didn't believe it until he heard it. It's great.

I love it. But this is the same guy, spoiler alert, when I tried to play Drake's views in the car with him. Like, you know, he has to hear views on his own before. He had a spoiler alert. Oh, that's right. I remember you telling me about that. All right.

So the marathons, I have a question quickly about your diet. So you're vegan. Correct. But you're trying to be the vegan who doesn't talk about it. That's the goal. Because all the vegans like to talk about it. Yeah, you always know when someone is a vegan, an atheist, a cyclist. Because they'll tell you.

Well, you're adding cyclist now. No, no, no. Cyclist is there. And what else? There was one other thing. CrossFit. CrossFit, that's it. Those four things.

How do you know someone's a vegan? You know why? Because all of those things you can wear a t-shirt for and people will wear t-shirts to publicize that they are this, that or the other thing. But you're trying to be the vegan

who doesn't talk. Well, I'm not trying. I am. If you ask me, I'll tell you and whatever but I'm not going to broadcast it. Okay, so do you find it... Here's my question because i'm not a vegan uh because i'm i i should be because i believe that is uh the healthy way to live this is what i believe but i'm one of those guys i'm

not practicing what i preach like i would say i would say all the studies and everything we know suggests that we would be the best thing you could do is drop dairy and meat. But I don't. I like a lot of dairy and meat. Okay, so you're with me? That's fair. But you have done it. So how do you get the necessary number of calories for a guy who runs marathons and trains for a marathon and doesn't eat?

You just eat. Do you have like a mountain of beans you'll dive into? It's an actual ridiculous question because you don't ask anyone else that question. Yeah, but I find it hard. Isn't it harder to- No. Just eat. So what would be a typical dinner for you?

Well, it depends on- It could be a pasta dinner, just like I would have before I was vegan. It could be a mixture of a whole bunch of veggies and rice and beans and then a salad. It could be... It's true. The pastas are easy.

You can calorie up pretty easily with pastas. Yeah, and pastas are, for the most part, pretty vegan. But is this beer vegan? Yes. You know what beer isn't vegan is Guinness. There are some that are not. I thought I heard you say something about a Guinness.

Guinness is not, but it's going to be this fall because they're changing the way they produce things. But yeah, beer for the most part is vegan. Do you eat cereal like with almond milk or something? Is this like- No, I could. I could, but almond milk is basically sugar water. Is that right? Yeah. There's a ton of sugar. Like, if you were

to make your own almond milk, fine. That's completely different, which a lot of people do. But the cartoned almond... A lot of the cartoned milks in general are just sugar water. So, it's not an issue.

But you're healthy. Let's say you never had cancer. Yes. Would you still be vegan? Or was this like a reaction to a health scare where you thought, I'm going to... No, not at all. But how long have you been vegan, though? Because you weren't vegan when you started recording. Two years, two and a half years now.

I saw you eating a burger during a recording once. No, I'm just kidding. But you weren't a vegan when we started this thing. No, no, no. It was two years, maybe? Two years, two and a half years? Something like that? I can't remember. I can't remember. It's not that I don't celebrate the anniversary of when I did this. You are

one of the great vegans who does not celebrate the anniversary. Alright. Amazing. Is there, before we wrap up here, is there anything you wanted to talk about? I feel like there was. You didn't take notes? No, I think it's important wrap up here? Is there anything you wanted to talk about? I feel like there was, but I,

you didn't take notes? No, I think it's important for us to acknowledge that a, the, the biggest, the biggest democracy in the world, shall we say, has just nominated a woman for president.

And I think that that is regardless of your feelings of her or the party. I am happy to now be able to raise my two girls and my son in a world where the largest democracy in the world has broken that glass ceiling, as they say. I know Canada has, but really, there's nothing to really be super proud of there, given she was Kim Campbell's prime minister for like nine months or so. And soundly defeated. Correct. Which is, I mean, a politician is going to be defeated.

It doesn't matter that she was, but she was only prime minister for nine months. I just think it's an important moment in our history as a planet that one of the last largest democracies and the largest democracy in the world has finally broken that barrier. And it's just good to see. All right, good. Let's talk about that. Did you watch any of the DNC?

I did not. It's on too late. I mean, it starts at 10 p.m. So I was in bed. The top guys go till like 11. Yeah, it's crazy. it's on too late i mean it starts at 10 10 p.m so i was in bed the top guys go till like 11 yeah it's crazy it's much too late for me so i would have loved so what i did is on my way into work or wherever i was i think i was in i was in new york and san francisco for both of the conventions so i ended up watching it would be early for you in san francisco so i was watching uh hillary i was back in tor in Toronto for Hillary because I came back home Thursday morning.

I ended up watching all the speeches that I wanted to watch the next morning. I just watched them on YouTube or whatever. To me, this thing was like a must-see miniseries for me. I spent four nights watching almost everything from 8 o'clock to the end. So you wouldn't normally do that? You wouldn't normally do that. I don't think I would normally do it, but I found myself peeking at the RNC in Cleveland. I watch both usually.

And I watched, so I would, yeah, so I watched, you know, I saw Scott Baio's speech and Antonio Sabato Jr. Where did they get, how did they get these guys? I heard, I heard CNN. That's unbelievable. I started with CNN and then I ended up on PBS, but that's another story.

But on CNN, I saw them ask Scott Baio, like, how was he approached? He said, like, a week before the convention, he was somewhere and Donald Trump was there and he basically went up to Donald Trump to say something like, keep up the good work or nice to meet you or whatever. And Donald said something like,

you should speak at our convention because Scott Baio had tweeted pro-Trump things on Twitter and of course also retweeted And he's a misogynist as well, Scott Baio is.

the C word it was a C word used in reference to Hillary which, by the way, offends me like I can't even tell you

like it gets my blood boiling when Olivia Chow was running for mayor somebody who was my friend but is no longer because I didn't like how he defended Ray Rice on Facebook. Right. Would constantly use the B word to refer to Olivia Chow for no other reason than because she is female.

And you have two girls. I have two girls. I hate the C word the most. B word, close second. These terms for that gender. It doesn't make sense. Oh, my goodness, I hate it. And telling us about a junior is a piece of work as well.

He was challenged afterwards in an interview because he referred to Barack Obama as a Muslim in his speech. And they said, well, he's not a Muslim. And he's like, well, I don't believe he's a Christian. He doesn't believe in the God that I believe in. And they're like, okay, but he's not a Muslim. And he's like, yes, he is. believe he's a Christian. He doesn't believe in the God that I believe in. And they're like, okay, but he's not a Muslim. And he's like, yes, he is. And they're like, what is your proof?

And he's like, it's in my heart. I believe it. And I don't understand that logic. I really don't. Like, that doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever. But this is what we're dealing with. None of that RNC makes sense. And then, so I watched the RNC, the Melania Trump speech, the kids speak.

The Michelle Obama speech, you mean. No, I'm on the RNC right now kids speak. The Michelle Obama speech, you mean? No, I'm on the RNC right now. Yeah, the Michelle Obama speech. Oh, yes, that's right. The one that she characterized. The one that she has, which is, wow. Yeah. So I would have loved,

sorry to interrupt, but I would have loved if Michelle Obama got up and delivered the Melania speech. That would have been so great. She's too classy to even touch it. But it would have been her own speech anyway. It would have been so great. That's too classy to even touch it. But it would have been her own speech anyway. It would have been so great. So, to me, watching the RNC,

and people are going to say, Mike, you're biased, because I happen to be a little bit biased in this, I suppose, because I don't like Trump as a human being, but I watched the RNC the four nights, and then the DNC the four nights, and to me, it was like, the comparison, I would say, would be like the high school production of some play versus you went to broadway and watched it kind of performed it

to me it was like night and day the caliber and quality difference in terms of speakers and content it was so uh jarringly different i i would agree to with you to a point but i would also argue that both of them are amazingly well-choreographed masquerades and are pretty big pieces of bullshit. Right. But to me, when you're choosing the bullshit, to me,

Toronto Mike, come on. I'm sure Canada would have loved Obama to be president for life. This is the feeling I get in Canada. President for life? Maybe. He's very popular here. He's way more conservative than Stephen Harper. Oh, yeah. I would say the Democrats

are similar to the conservatives. I don't think he's way more conservative than Stephen Harper. Barack Obama entered office the first time not believing in gay marriage and publicly stating so. And while Stephen Harper...

But how long did it take the Conservative Party to stop fighting same-sex marriage? That only happened yesterday. Well, they never did it officially until about a month ago, but he made a policy that it wasn't something to be talked about. Like, you couldn't bring it up. It was nothing that they could talk about. They only made it part of their priority platform last month.

It was never brought up. All of the things that we thought about Stephen Harper in terms of his master plan to bring Canada back into the Stoic Ages. Right, but there was talk from some MPs, conservative MPs, they were talking about, like, abortion law and crazy Sto Now, I'm not suggesting that he was amazing for women or for the gay community or any of that stuff. Don't get me wrong.

I'm just saying, when you look at Democrats, for the most part, they're like a true Democrat. These countries are so completely different in terms of values and politics. But regardless, to me, Hillary Clinton, and I know what you're saying about the

oil machine and the spin doctoring and the production and all that stuff. Do you know she doesn't want to take her guns away? I'm like, maybe you should take her guns away. You're fucking crazy. But she's also trying to get elected. That's like the third line, apparently, down there. Right. By the way, when you fall in the subways, when you start taking the subway

and you fall in there, don't touch the third rail. That's right. That's right. Do you remember, because you went to the subways, when you start taking the subway and you fall in there, don't touch the third rail. That's right. That's right. Do you remember? Because you went to Miss Scuba Saga, right? Right. So I remember in the 80s, this was like something we talked about a lot.

It was like, when you're down there, don't touch the third rail. We used to come downtown every weekend when I was in high school and stuff. Right. I would spend weekends down here. And yeah, the third rail. Right. Now no one knows what you school and stuff. Right. Like I would spend weekends down here and yeah, the third rail. Right.

The other thing was- Now no one knows what you're talking about. Right. And the other thing I was big in the 80s when I was going downtown was like the swarms that might roll you for your docs. Okay. This was like we always,

when you're at the Eden Center- But did this ever happen? I guess, don't you think it must have happened once for this to be, because it couldn't be completely urban. I'd like to Google it and see if it ever happened. But we were all, I wore Docs.

We were all wearing Docs. What color laces did you wear? Oh, you mean, always yellow. I always bought the yellow. What does yellow mean? Stitching. No, but the laces itself. Because the laces meant something, remember?

Like if you wore Docs with white laces, that meant that you were a white supremacist. I had the default black. I bought them at IXL at Wellesley and Young. There was different colors. One of them was Fuck the Police. One of them was... I don't know.

I can't remember. We all wore Doc Martens. And we were told that you will be swarmed at the Eden Center. And we called it... You'd be rolled for your docs. Rolled for your docs, yes. No, I don't know if anyone gets rolled

at the Eden Center anymore. It's insane how touristy it is. Well, yeah, because they got rid of the gene machine and they made a beautiful square. Gene machine. Wow. Man, our Yonge Street. We used to have a gene machine in Meadowville Town Center. Oh, wow.

I remember that. Yeah, okay. I don't know. Is the Hard Rock still there? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, still there. Still rocking.

I mean, tourists go there like crazy. Wow. It's insane. Yeah, so anyway, I won't go too hard on the RNC, DNC, but this Muslim couple, the parents of the Muslim soldier who died fighting for America, which you heard Fox News cut away from that. Oh, did they really?

To show like a Trump rally or something like that. Really? Because Trump had just spoken before. I think it was just a coincidence, but it was well-timed nevertheless. Interesting coincidence. Where he just spoke and then... I don't even get Fox News. Well, you don't get anything, right?

I think Fox News is something you have to pay for. I get CNN, though. I know, but CNN is part of a regular... Yeah, that's interesting. Okay, because I got CNN. It comes over on Channel 33. And once there was a debate, there was once a debate I wanted to watch. I think it was a Republican

candidate debate that was on Fox. And I went to find it, and I found it. I don't get it. I had no idea. I didn't even think of it. Okay. You wouldn't get BBC and all that stuff either. I think those are all premium news networks. But I get CNN, so I guess CNN's special. I guess CNN, because it's first in, maybe? I don't know.

They've been around forever? I don't know, maybe. Wolf Blitzer's still there, by the way, if you're wondering where Wolf Blitzer is. So what was I going to say? Okay, so the parents of the Muslim soldier who died, he gave this beautiful speech. The father gave this speech, and you've seen it maybe.

Apparently it was not off a teleprompter, and he wrote it himself. And one of the great moments where I get all teary and emotional is when he says, he questions, he says, first of all, what have you sacrificed to Donald Trump? And he says, have you read the Constitution of the United States? And he goes in his pocket and he takes it and he goes,

you can read my copy. And he brings this out, and it's like this great moment. And then, I think it was yesterday, Donald Trump responded by, he insinuated that the reason the mother wasn't speaking was because she was not allowed to speak because she is a Muslim woman. Oh, really? This is the Donald Trump. And at that point, it seemed to me so vile and so below the belt.

Like this mother who's, and the reason she didn't speak, by the way, is because she still can't look at pictures of her son who is dead. Oh, really? And there was a picture, apparently, there was a picture on a screen somewhere

of her son. And she simply tried to hold it together because the cameras are on her so she doesn't want to break down in tears. But it was so difficult for her to see

the picture of her son, she simply couldn't speak. Well, that's politics. I mean, there was another woman who spoke. Her son was killed in Orlando along with his boyfriend, and two of his friends came out with her. And then immediately thereafter,

all of the stuff on the internet basically suggested that she was an actress that was paid by the DNC to put her up there. But this is going to be an ugly campaign. But that's politics. Yes, it is politics. But even when you had John McCain or you had, who else was it? Bob Dole. Bob Dole, right?

Yeah, well, Bob Dole. Who was it? I disliked him very much, Mr. George W. Bush. But in retrospect, Donald Trump is taking the grand old party, the party of Lincoln and Reagan and all this nonsense. And it is taking it into the gutters. And it's just, to me, it's gross. Like, it's just gross what he is saying and the things he's throwing out. And he had an interview with George Stephanopoulos.

I'll be very brief here because this is boring everybody. But in which it was clear he was unaware what Russia had done with the Ukraine. Like, he was so unaware of big global events. And this guy's trying to be commander-in-chief of the largest army in the world. Yep. I don't believe any of the stuff that he says that he actually believes it for the most part.

He's in a position where people have put him in a position much to his surprise and now he's running with it. That's what I believe. I don't believe any of this stuff is really things that he believed in. I know for a fact, if you don't believe that Donald Trump believes in abortion or all this other kind of stuff, I don't think that, like, that just doesn't make any sense to me. Of course he believes in abortion. But he's now in a position that people have put him in where he's like, hey, I'm going to run with this. What was a promo for the Trump brand is now growing even bigger than he could have imagined.

That's what I believe. Because now the scary thing is he might actually win this thing. Yeah, well, he's got a 50-50 chance, right? Yeah. Well, I guess he could theoretically. He's one of two people who will win. Let's put it that way. Yeah, you got to put in, I guess, the libertarian candidate if you want to,

but so maybe slightly less than 50-50 odds, but pretty fucking close. So you want to go see TFC today? No. Do you want to come to Sass Jordan with me? No. Because I'm going solo. No.

If anyone hears this. I would. Go ahead. I'm not going to. My brother Steve says, he would not cross the street for a concert unless he was into the band. But I would go across the street to watch Helix, who I've never, I wouldn't pretend to be into the band. Yeah.

And I would have a good time. Hey, good for you. Good on you. I'm not going to criticize that part. I'm going to make fun of you for it, but go for it. Have fun. Maybe she'll, she used to be a judge, right? She was a judge on Canadian Idol?

Yeah. I think most young people know her from her Canadian Idol. As opposed to... What's her big song? Tell somebody, tell somebody. She has a few hits, though. Do you think she hates Atlanta Miles? Oh, my... They would have been like one, two, right?

Oh, my goodness. In terms of Canadian sweethearts? I want to get Atlanta Miles on this podcast because Black Velvet. It's fucking great. It's iconic. And that brings us to the end of our 186th show. Holy shit. You have some catching up to do. 186.

On your deathbed, when I'm watching the Simpsons episodes I've missed since like I, whatever, the last 10 years I've missed, you can catch up on all these episodes. Yeah, great. You fucking put me in the grave earlier. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. And Elvis has multiple accounts, but the one for this show that we promote is called... Multiple accounts?

Yeah. I have two. That's multiple. for this show that we promote is called... Multiple accounts. I have two. That's multiple. At Oshawa Elvis. Until he convinces Mrs. Elvis to get the fuck out of Dodge, he's at Oshawa Elvis. See you all next week. See you later, Vine69.

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But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up Rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow Warms me today