Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Elvis: Toronto Mike'd #277

Episode Date: October 30, 2017

Mike and Elvis chat about seeing Guns N' Roses the previous night, the death of Gord Downie and more.

Welcome to episode 277 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent brewery celebrating 30 years in the craft beer business. visit GLB at 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard for $5 patio beers, and propertyinthesix.com, Toronto real estate done right. And our newest sponsor, Paytm, an app designed to manage all of your bills in one spot. Download the app today from paytm.ca I'm Mike

from torontomike.com and joining me this week straight from guns and fucking roses is my buddy Elvis. Fucking A man. Why are they fiercely independent? Does that mean are they insinuating that they've turned down

all offers to go corporate? I had the owner here like two weeks ago, and I should have asked him that. I'll ask him and I'll get back. Next episode, I'll have an answer. Maybe Molson Coors is parking Brinks trucks in the driveway, and Peter Bullitt just says no. They're saying, fuck you, man. You're in the jungle, baby. I don't even know where to start.

You're going to die. Where do we begin? You know, I like this movie was amazing, Terminator 2. And you had Edward Furlong wore the public enemy shirt throughout the whole film. This is top five for me. Top five what? Top five Guns N' Roses songs of all time. Oh.

Maybe even top three. It's fucking hard, man. This is so good. Do you have a t-shirt that reads, with your bitch slap rapping in your cocaine tongue? That's a great lyric, though. But that was, okay. It's a great lyric. It was written on the liner notes.

And I remember this because I was studying the cassette liner notes of Appetite for Destruction. Right. Because it had that like image of like the girl was raped or something. Do you remember the graphic violent imagery? Yes. Okay. And written in the liner notes,

before we ever heard anything about Use Your Illusion, written in the liner notes was with your heard anything about Use Your Illusion, written in the liner notes was with your bitch slap rapping in your cocaine tongue and I memorized it because I liked it. And then this video was getting airplay on Much Music when they were promoting Terminator 2 or whatever and I heard the lyric and I said, oh my God, he used the lyric.

And this was from Use Your Illusion? Yes, this is from Use Your Illusion. Yeah. So that would have been foreshadowing two albums previous? No, because, well, okay, it depends how you define it. Let's call it that. And then Lies. Appetite's the first album.

Right. Lies was, I don't know what Lies was exactly. It was like an EP of some sort, but it was like a filler thing. In today's world, that's an album. Okay, and that, of course, that gives us Patience. Right. And Used to Lover and Mama Can and stuff. But then there's the usual illusions right both of them right and then there's the spaghetti incident that's right which is the covers album and then everything after that i don't

i can't even speak to anything after that right which i've never heard i heard more of it last night than ever okay i've never heard it but when you think about this band which we love and we're going to talk about the concert yesterday when you think about this band, which we love, and we were going to talk about the concert yesterday, when you think about this band, it's one album that was big, this EP, a double album which was massive, and then the covers album, which really doesn't barely

count. So that's not a lot of content. Am I right? That's a small catalog. Yeah, I think the big play for these guys is those two albums is uh appetite obviously is one of the biggest albums of all time and then use your illusion one and two just is i mean you could make an argument that it could have just been

using your illusion right but we all know about uh axel's grandiose dreams and wanting to shoot videos of himself swimming with dolphins um but those three albums or those two albums depending on how you want to look at it the the material that is there the artistry that is there sets these guys apart from you know 95 of all other uh hard rock albums out there right and you'd be a fool to lump them in with the hair band guys because there's a lot of punk going on there. There's a lot of... Well, if you looked at their videos from Appetite, especially their first one,

they were a hair band, but they weren't. They had that image. They never, to me, they didn't sound to me... They had that teased out hair, though. Like poison, though. They may have looked like a poison, but they didn't sound like poison. You're absolutely correct. You're absolutely correct.

Hold on. I've got to crack open a GLB, okay? You ready? Do it. Nice. You've got one going. Cheers to you. La Hayam.

Cheers. The day after the epic Guns N' Roses concert at the Air Canada Centre. So, Appetite in 87, Lies in 88, Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 in 91, Spaghetti Incident in 93, and then Democracy, Chinese Democracy in 08. I'll take your word for it. That's it.

Yeah, that's not a lot. That's not a lot. And really, you're looking at those first four, and if Lies is an EP, like you say it is, which I agree, it didn't really have the same... It wasn't a regular release. Back in the day when records actually mattered.

It wasn't released in the same way, was it? No. It definitely was not a follow-up to Appetite for Destruction. It was like... You know what it reminds me of? You know how Nirvana had Incesticide? Yes. It's like the Incesticide of Friends and Roses.

Thank you. There was three... Hold on of Friends and Roses. Thank you. Hold on, I like this part. Wow. Sorry to interrupt you there. So before we get commentary on the blog, which I love, by the way. When we make a mistake, people call us out. I love that. It was officially an extended play. Lies, this is.

But it was treated as a studio album. Or treated as a regular release, excuse me, by the record company. Sold over 5 million copies, had one single off of it, which is Patience, peaked at number 4. So you're right, technically an EP, but if you ask the record companies, it was a studio album. Well, it was an EP with one of the greatest guns and roses songs of all time on it so that's going to sell five million albums for that single i'd say it's interesting because you always ask this question has acdc ever recorded a ballad before and while guns and roses may not have recorded a traditional ballad they certainly have recorded slower love songs that you know

certainly at the beginning being categorized as a hard rock, if not metal band. Certainly a different definition of metal today versus back then. However, given that, you know, Bon Jovi was a hard rock band when they first came out. Slippery when wet. You have a single like Patience in only their second album. It's pretty risky for the band to do.

But it's fucking awesome. Patience, right? Patience was a great fucking track. We got it in the encore last night. So let's start. We'll go back and forth on this. Let's start with the fact that this is, and I was thinking in my head,

of every concert I've been to in my entire life. And I don't know if I've been to as many as you, but I used to go to a lot of concerts. I've been to enough my entire life. And I don't know if I've been to as many as you, but I used to go to a lot of concerts. I've been to enough that I have a good sample size, I think. I've never witnessed the headliner go that long. I don't believe I've ever witnessed the headliner go. Tell me what the time was of that concert. It was almost three and a half hours. Right. So three and a half hours of Guns N' Roses. If memory serves, and I'm sure people will be able to wiki this and tell us in the comments,

but I remember both ACDC and the Rolling Stones going very long, especially the Rolling Stones going very long at Sarstok. Three and a half hours long? I don't think three and a half hours, no. I used to hear tales, Like when I was younger,

born in the USA time, which I had on cassette, I would hear stories about Bruce Springsteen doing three hour shows. He does three hours now on Broadway. And I believe he might have done four hours

at some point. I don't know. I'm not saying this is a world record, but it's definitely a mic record. And on Broadway, he's doing it with just a piano or a guitar. No band.

When was the last time you listened to Meat Loaf's Bad Out of Hell, the album? The entire album? Like any of it. I have. I would do anything for love, but I won't do that on my phone. But that's Bad Out of Hell 2. Oh, that's right. Yes.

Sorry. It's like easier. Many years later. That's right. You're right. You're right. I am right. Oh, fuck. I can't remember years later. That's right. You're right. You're right. I am right. Oh, fuck.

I can't remember. I can't even remember. Just that next time you listen to Bad Out of Hell, you'll hear an awful lot of Springsteen in there. Yes. It's a bit weird. I was listening to it last night on my bike ride home after the concert, the Guns N' Roses concert. Interesting. And it was so Bruce.

And I never really put these pieces together. Anyways, I digress. Back to Gunners. So it was a very long show. And have you looked, I mean, you witnessed it, but did you look at that playlist today at all? I did not. No, I haven't had a chance.

I posted it on the wonderful torontomic.com playlist. Oh, you did? Yeah, I did. You can actually call it up now if you want. But 30 plus songs, but you can't, like, we got everything, man. Everything that was even, like, smelled like a hit. We got it. Oh, yeah.

Everything. You know what? I was telling you this yesterday before the show started. Mike and I got there nice and early, partly because I hate winning in line, but two, I also really hate being late. So anyway, we got there like an hour and a half before the, like we got there as the gates opened, basically. Yeah, and we got to chat. So we chatted for a while caught up but we made sure that we kept the conversation away from the shit we talk about here because otherwise it would be a really

otherwise what's your point anyway i digress um what was my point what did you say your point was it was uh we got everything we wanted oh yes so kid rock was recently interviewed by howard stern and he's like you know what fuck you i'm not i'm i'm not that guy i'm gonna release music yes because i love music music is you know me it's who i am i'm an artist but i'm not stupid enough to think that you're coming to see my show now to hear all my new fucking shit i'll give you a song or two from my new album but i'm gonna going to play you all the fucking hits. And that's what they did, man. It was...

I have an opinion of the show beyond that, but if you were looking to hear a hit, you heard it. And that's the way that these kind of shows with these kind of guys should go, especially if it's three hours. Can you imagine it was three hours and we got the entire B-side of Chinese democracy? Fucking right.

I would have burned down the fucking ACC. The Night Train Club would have been happy with that. Whatever that is. Okay, you said you have some thoughts. Why don't you start with that now? Sure. You start with your review and then I'll do mine and we'll discuss. So not to digress into a potential subject that we may talk about afterwards,

but there was this one particular woman beside you and she looked like she was pretty young to be at a guns and roses concert say i would say she was probably in her early 20s maybe late teens okay so because i was closer to you than you were i had her in her early 30s oh really because this is the reason why i said that she was as young as she is because i assumed she was with her dad no way that was not her dad that was not her dad that was her uh boyfriend her boyfriend who i guess was a dad substitute she could have been you know it was she could have been 37 anyway this woman was on her phone the entire fucking show putting it on either ins i'm really popping my peas i apologize let me turn this um she was either instagramming story the entire show or

flipping back and forth between facebook live and it just drove me bonkers because what i wanted to say to her was you can do whatever you want you bought the ticket this is the last time that you should see guns and roses because it was very clear that axel can't sing anymore. The amount of times that he left the stage to do whatever it is that he was doing. I imagine that there was hot water in the back, honey in the water,

whatever, but it was very clear anytime he had to sing something, he hit the notes. He definitely hit the notes, but the times that he had to sing in between the high notes, there was a lot of break. He wasn't always singing. He definitely hit the notes. But the times that he had to sing in between the high notes, there was a lot of break. He wasn't always singing. He was relying. So for those of you who haven't seen them, they've added a couple of people to the band to help with backup vocals, which of course you're going to do. So Duff sings a lot of the backup. But he's got this woman who

also does some of the percussion as well as some piano work that sings with him as well. And she was carrying a lot of the tunes. And so ultimately, if you're going to go see a rock show and you want to see slash slay and all that kind of stuff great go for it but this really is the last tour um to go see these guys they are marketably worse than they were just a year ago when i saw them at the dome i think i was gonna ask you i was excited to see them at ACC because obviously the dome, no fault of the dome itself, but the sound there is shit. It's so big and cavernous.

It's just really hard to have good sound. But if you are going, if you're guns and roses, you want at this point, you want to play in the biggest fucking venue that you can to try and disguise, um, the fact that Axl just can't put on a three-hour show.

That's why I'm surprised that they do three hours because it's clear he can't sing. There was a lot of musical interludes. There was a lot of, you know, a lot of other stuff other than just him singing the song. And so while I enjoyed myself, I had fun. I'm glad I've seen them before. And I would recommend to people who are looking to hear this kind of Axl, you're not going to get that. And maybe that's an unrealistic expectation.

I don't think anyone has it. Okay, so me, this was my very first time seeing them live. And I went into the show expecting to hear weak vocals from Axl. Like, I was so prepared. In fact, because I was prepared for the worst, I was surprised at how good he sounded. He had his moments. He did.

I felt he got stronger as the show went on. I think that's also purposely done as well. The way in which they arranged that set list, you didn't get, like in some other rock shows, you didn't get Paradise, and then Sweet Child of Mine, and then Welcome to the Jungle, and then all the hard songs back to

back to back, which is how a lot of artists would structure their show, right? And it was almost like they were fucking with you too, which of course is Guns N' Roses. They would play like Welcome to the Jungle and get everyone fucking jacked, and then they go and play something from Chinese Democracy immediately afterwards. And you're like,

what a fucking... I'm all ready to go here. Let's fucking rip. Yeah, I think that's what they did after Mr. Brownstone. The second song is Mr. Brownstone, which is one of my favorite Guns N' Roses songs of all time. And now it's, you know, we started strong. Then we get Mr. Brownstone,

and then they went into Chinese democracy, like the song Chinese democracy. Exactly. So it's like, okay. But because we got 30 plus songs and every hit you could imagine, and I felt by the end like i couldn't believe at the three and a half hour mark he was sounding as good as he was because

i thought the beginning i almost wondered if there was some audio mixing issues or something where he sounded a bit like he'd fade away for parts like he would that's purposely done i think okay i thought maybe they were working out some like technical issues i wish stokely was there to tell me but then by like through, he had hit a stride and then he kept getting stronger. When Hulk Hogan was losing, remember? And every time you hit him, he'd get the electricity through his body

and he'd get stronger. Hitting Hulk Hogan made him stronger. That's right. And then he'd come back and win and he'd do a leg drop and he'd pin you. That's right. Rocket Queen is a good example. Rocket Queen, yes.

There was a 10-minute musical interlude in the middle. I don't know. Axl was constantly going offstage. And it's clear the other guys, too. Like, the other guys were going offstage as well. The only people who stayed on. Yeah, but these old men, three and a half hours, man. I know, but I've seen other bands where they can do it.

I don't doubt that they could. I think that part of that is also part of that is just built into the show. You can't just have one guy doing that. You have to have all of them. It was a different show than the Dome in the sense that there was a lot more pauses this time around. At least that's what it seemed like.

By pauses, you mean the guitar solo? Not guitar solo. Yeah, the guitar solos. They would do that. No, no, no. I mean pauses in between songs. There was a lot of times last time I saw them where they would go immediately from song to song to song to song. No breath. Catch his breath. Like, no lights go down or anything like that. But, no, I mean, I enjoyed myself.

I thought it was fun. I think the Sun, I only know about the Sun's review. I don't read the Sun, but I was sitting beside someone today in a meeting and they said that he saw that the review in The Sun was four out of five suns. Wow. Which, yeah, okay. I don't disagree with the fact that it was a good show. I just think if you have the chance to see them on this tour, this is the—so to that woman, it's shitty that you were on your phone the entire time because you should never see them again. But she—I could tell—I was—okay, so this leads into something i wanted to talk about which is uh sitting during concerts i want to talk about that

because she sat through the concert and then i think for like the major hits like i don't know november rain sweet child of mine or whatever she got up right like so maybe three or four times throughout the show she got up so i felt like maybe she was like a fan of the big hits maybe like i don't think she's ever played an album back to back, but she knows Sweet Child O' Mine. Maybe. Like, again, I didn't think that she would have ever been alive to be around when the album came out. I thought she was older than you did. I mean, it was dark,

and you clearly were right beside her. But both of us were peering at her phone, and it just drove me nuts. So here's the thing. Before people start hating on me for the phone thing, but first of all, I think I took my phone out way less than you did you had your phone out you were tweeting oh i uh tweeted like two little videos and right i did i did a video on facebook part of it was just because i have you know just this but i saw your

phone in action your phone was really shitty like it would take a long time yeah so um it's remarkable how many people are on their fucking phones. And a lot of them are not even, like, at least this woman was recording the show. A lot of people were just taking selfies of themselves or, like, clearly on Facebook. But that's the new postcard. Like, to me, that's okay. It's crazy. I almost thought, I had a moment there where I thought, I should get a selfie with Elvis to commemorate the night, like, we were at this concert together.

I don't know. We do it at TFC, don't we? We could have taken a picture before or after, which is what we do at TFC. But it's kind of neat when the background is the Gunners and you're like, this is Elvis and I on this date. I don't have the same hate for it you do. You know what? Get off my lawn. I'm willing to accept the fact

that I might be an old man here, but I'm like, live in the moment. I saw what she was doing because I was right beside her. Was she sending to a friend or something? She was doing Instagram stories. Lots of Instagram stories. And at some point, she did a Facebook Live. That's right.

Of one of the earlier songs or whatever. And I wonder if that's because... But I watched it. Only one person was watching, so I don't know if it was for her or if she just didn't get a big turnout for her Facebook Live.

See, in my mind, she was filming it for her boyfriend because she was there with her dad. But clearly, that was not correct if you'd say that she's...

I mean, I don't know. I didn't interview her, but I have a feeling that was her love interest. I thought she was in her early 20s, and you said 30. No. And how old did you think the dude was? Wasn't he my age? No, I thought he was older than that. I mean, but we could have kids in our...

You have kids in their teens. I have an almost 16-year-old. There you go. And I didn't have him young. I was 27 when he popped out. Yeah, if he was 50, which he could have been, I thought. He was yawning.

He was yawning in the concert. Okay, so a couple of fun facts. Can't do three hours on this, but it will be longer than the Guns N' Roses concert. Some fun facts. One is that we were the last row of the ACC. We absolutely were. There was no seats behind us.

But idiots were standing behind us. There was standing room behind us. And they were standing behind us. There was standing room behind us. And they were the ones who were yelling out song titles, which I thought was cute. In the middle of a solo. No one can hear you up there. In the middle of a solo, he's like. And then we started yelling out one song that they had already played.

I think it was Rocket Queen or something. Oh, yeah. No, it ain't easy. Yeah, that's right. And I wanted to go back and tell them, oh, you came late. That was the first tune. That's right. It's fucking easy.

Some more fun thing is we got a Glen Campbell cover. We got Wichita Lineman. We did, yes. Glen Campbell died recently. And then late, which I thought was interesting. I did not expect a Glen Campbell cover. But then later we got Soundgarden's Black Hole Sun. I got chills when I heard them do that. A lot of surprises like that.

We had The Who. We had Pink Floyd. That's right. We had the Godfather We had Pink Floyd. That's right. We had the Godfather theme, which I thought was really fucking cool. That's pretty cool. We had the coda to Layla, the Jim Gordon coda that Stafford tells me

he stole from his Rita Coolidge. Yeah. Lovers in a Dangerous Time. No. No. We didn't have that, but we did have a little bit of, what did Alice Cooper,

Only Woman Bleed, Only Woman Bleed was a little bit of like, played a little bit on guitar. And they also did some Jimmy all along the watchtower. Yes, just a little taste. But any highlights for you? I really thought they did a bang up job delivering the hits to the people. Like, three and a half hours of non-stop rock and I liked November Rain was great.

I thought the closer Paradise City was pretty perfect. I thought it was just a fun time. And I will acknowledge, Axl doesn't sound like he does on the albums because he sounds like a... He doesn't quite have that anymore but he's better than I expected for what that's

worth fair so he was worse than i expected i felt like uh as much as i enjoyed listening to a three and a half hour show i really did that i think it they could have been better served doing two hours um oh strip out some chinese democracy i thinkim the fat? You can make it tighter. But I don't think you can do that with the way Axl's vocals are right now. And again, I don't... Oh, and Slash is fucking amazing. Can I just say quickly? Yes. I could just watch Slash play guitar for three and a half hours.

What a fucking legend. He is a living legend. He is one of the greatest guitarists of all time. And, you know i you know i think instinctually you want to say like he never gets his due i think slash gets his due but i've never seen it in person oh i saw it at velvet revolver but it was something different where he had more solos i think he was yeah yeah he's he's him prince you know a lot of those guys are just i've been lucky to see both of those guys. And, you know, and Axl doesn't really dance anymore either.

He danced at the Dome show. I was dancing at the Axl dance. Yeah, you were crazy. He was dancing at the Dome show. More. But he didn't look fat. He just looked a little middle-aged and bloated. Like he got stung by a bee.

Oh, did he? No, he just looks like he has. Yeah, in the belly. He got stung in the belly. Yeah, I don't like he has. Yeah, in the belly. He got stuck in the belly. Yeah, I don't know. I just expected. And the hair. The hair's funny.

He's holding on to that hair. But he's got that hair. And it's not the Hulk Hogan ring of fire. No, not yet. Anyway, at least there could be some work done there. Hold on. Pause for a moment here. Sweet Child. Sweet Child. That's probably number one for me.

I'm going to say Sweet Child probably. Welcome to the Jungle. Then you could be mine. Probably top three. I'm going with for my top three, I am saying Patience. And then November Rain. And then Patience, probably top nine. Well, first of all,

your number one has to be November Rain because it was one of your 10 jams. I know, I was thinking that. You have to be consistent. But you are allowed, you have the right

to be fluid with your favorites. I think that was, it's one of my favorites, but I think I ended up going with that because of the theme that ended up organically happening. Oh, the epic 10 song minute plus.

That's right. Okay, so my quick top three real quick would be probably Patience, Mr. Brownstone, and Sweet Child of Mine is right up there. Mr. Brownstone is a good song. So is Rocket Queen. Rocket Queen is a song. So good. Yeah, it's the last cut on that album, right? Mr. Brownstone's a good song so is Rocket Queen Rocket Queen is a song so good yeah it's

it's the last cut on that album right yeah that's the one where he's having getting a blowjob at the end or having sex yeah he has sex with somebody

was it Izzy's girlfriend something like that in the studio I missed Izzy last night though we should point out the big three that were there obviously the three main the founders

the three main characters Duff McKagan yeah Axl Rose, and Slash were there. Or Sol Hyman, as I call him. And that's really all you need. Yeah, I was just really happy to see that.

I'd argue that if Duff wasn't there, it would still be Guns N' Roses. It's really good to have Duff there, but you need Slash and Axl. That's right. And then, I mean, who misses Izzy and Dizzy? Really? Izzy Stradlin. He's a cool dude.

One thing I would say. Adam Sandler? Adam Sandler. Andy Sandberg. Andy Sandler. Whoever their fucking drummer was. It wasn't Matt. It was, yeah, I can't remember his name.

Carrera or something? Or is that the Astros guy? I got to get to that. So two things I got to do before we move on. Oh, I could talk three and a half hours on this. What's the protocol? In 1999, I went to see the Tragically Hip on New Year's Eve. So this is New Year's Eve 99.

So it starts in 1999. It ends in 2000. I'm seeing the hip. They played two and a half hours. I thought that was epic, but nothing like last night. I'm with somebody you know and her husband, and I won't name any names except to say that the first song starts. My wife at the time, it's my first wife, we stand up, okay?

Because they start the first song. This couple we went with stayed seating, and we looked at each other like they're sitting down for the hip concert. I had never seen somebody sit for a hip for a rock concert before, okay? Last night, a lot of people in our section stayed seated for the whole thing. I mean, I'm going to say, to each his own. You buy your ticket. You can do what you want.

You can stay on your phone the whole time. You can sit the whole time. It just feels wrong to sit down for a rock concert. Just my two cents. So I sat for a rock concert just my two cents so i sat for a good portion of the dome show but i was in the 500s and i was getting fucking dizzy as fuck oh dizzy isn't he the name of the keyboardist he's a piano guy dizzy reed yeah yeah that's what i said is he and dizzy um. But I'm with you. Stand. You stand the show.

You stand that whole show, man. And people who left early. Rock shows, you stand. I know that this show was ending at like 11.30 and it's a school night. Right. Like, I get that.

But how do you leave early if you don't want to hear the encore, which is often the highlight of the show? So we talked about this briefly and you brought up a really good point.

I said in the 11 years that TFC has been at BMO in Toronto, I've left the game early twice. Both times it was because my daughters did not want to be there anymore. That's a fair reason. So I left. However, I have been there, and they have been losing by enormous amount of goals and I have always stayed to the very end. You brought up the point that you stayed to the very end of a Toronto Blue Jay game

in which they were losing 19-1. To the Houston Astros who might win the World Series this year, we were down 19-1. It was actually 19-0. We got a home run in the bottom of the ninth to make it 19-1. 19-0 and my daughter and I stayed until the final out. So that's what I said. I'm like, I never leave a sporting event. Why would I leave a concert? You brought up a really good point.

The end of the concert is the best! It's different than a game. A 19-1 game, you could argue sensibly that I was stupid to stay. Go and do something else. It's all downhill from there. Yeah, it's not getting any better. Concert is like an upside-down pyramid or whatever. That's right. It peaks at something else. It's all downhill from there. Yeah, it's not getting any better. A concert is like an upside-down pyramid or whatever. That's right.

It peaks at the end. You get your encore. We got Patience, we got Don't Cry, and we got Paradise City at the end. That's the best part. If you want to skip part of a concert, skip the first hour, not the last hour. I always love seeing artists in their

true moment. And that's why I like to stay at the end of TFC games as well. When the team comes over to the supporter section and salutes us, it just feels like they're real people. They're not just players on the pitch. And it was really cool to see both Duff and Slash come out at the end. The lights are on and everything, and they're coming out, and they're throwing out guitar picks to their fans and stuff.

It was just really cool to see them. It just gives you just gives you the idea like hey these guys are having fun like they're not just doing it for the paychecks and also did you feel good like when axl would hype up slash or whatever like oh look they're getting along like it made me feel good like look axl and slash are playing so nice together yeah it was a long time they wouldn't like money talks man well i you know what it is i i've heard slash's version of this he's never had a problem with axel it's just axel is the uh axel is the uh lone wolf and you know he's a unique individual let's put it that way so we we went to a show that started at like eight something was 8 10 i think when they went on and it goes like almost almost three and a half hours, and then

we have to get out of the ACC, which takes a while, and then I get on my bike, and I have to bike 15 kilometers to home, okay? So I get home. Now, I don't know what it is. It's almost 12.30 or something. The fucking baseball game is in the eighth inning, okay? I got to watch...

I started watching the World... I love the World Series, okay? And I'm like, oh, I have to miss this game, Guns N' Roses. Oh, well, at least it's not a clinching game. That's what I told myself. I didn't, I fucking got to see so much of that game. Think about that. The game and the concert started at the same time. I saw three

and a half hours of Guns N' Roses. We got, it took a half an hour to get out of the fucking venue. I biked 15 kilometers along the waterfront, and I still saw the eighth or ninth inning. Probably like an hour. Just because I think the game was five and a quarter hours. Think about it. Yeah.

Isn't that nuts? Like how the hell? Like, fuck. I know. I know you don't. You're not watching the World Series. I'm guessing. You know, I will if it's on.

OK. I didn't know, like how your cable. Oh, you get Fox. Yeah, I get Fox. fox okay so it's on fox uh but would i say oh i'm gonna miss the game because i have to go to the uh gunner but it was a brief moment of like oh i have to miss the game and then it was very quickly followed by oh it's not a clinching who cares so it's not it's not like the jays are in it that would be a big difference so long story short is uh that's like a like a sixhour thing kind of we're part of or whatever.

And we didn't miss the game. We didn't miss the whole fucking baseball game. It's crazy. So let's say my son hates baseball. But let's pretend my 15-year-old son loves baseball. How the fuck is he supposed to watch these World Series games that are ending at 2 in the morning on school nights? It doesn't make any sense. And they start so late. It's like

hockey does that too, right? Hockey? No, I find hockey starts at 7 and it's over before 10 o'clock. Even playoffs? I think so. Don't they usually push them to 8? Well, okay, if it's 8, but a hockey game is shorter than a baseball game. Baseball is notorious for starting games late. You're right. And baseball

games are so long because there's no clock. Right. And they dick around. There's a lot of runs and a lot of pitching changes and a lot of shit going on. But I cannot believe, except for game one, which was a wonderful two and a half hour game, that game I got to see end before bedtime. Every other game in this World Series, it's very difficult to stay up to the end. Playoff baseball is remarkable for this reason.

You have grown men, right, like old men that have been in baseball theoretically their entire lives. And I'm talking about the manager. Been in baseball their entire life, likely have never had another job, period. And do an exceptional job to get to this elite position that they're in to manage a one of the best teams in the entire world when it comes to playing baseball and do remarkably well over the course of 162 games you get into the playoffs and they just can't get out of their own head and pull and do stupid things like pulling Kershaw with two outs after only pitching 94 pitches.

Oh, the fourth inning, right? In the fourth inning, they pull him with two men on, two outs. This is arguably the greatest pitcher that we have seen in the last decade. He's Sandy Koufax incarnate. pitcher that we have seen in the last decade. He's Sandy Koufax incarnate. There's a stat that said when his team gives him a four-run lead,

forever, his record, you know what his record is? Guess what his record is. I'm going to guess he wins 100% of his game. 101. Oh, he lost. He's lost one game. And that's only four. With only four given runs.

He's never had or I can't remember the exact. But the amount of times he's struck out, he's walked more batters than struck out is like minuscule. Never. I'm like, so this is just awesome to watch these managers self-destruct in the playoffs. That's why I like playoff baseball, because they just can't get out of their own head. It's remarkable how you just can't play the game the same way you would during the regular season. That's also why it goes five and a quarter hours.

Well, that game was bananas. I mean... B-A-N-A-N-A-S? Because I missed most of it. So I watched the whatever, the three and a half minute recap that I see. Can you get Gwen Stefani in here? I'm working on it.

That'd be amazing. I could probably. I'm going to try to do that. Actually, I can't get Gwen Stefani, but guess who's coming in to perform? Gavin Rosdell. I'm working on it. That'd be amazing. I could probably, I'm going to try to do that. Actually, I can't get Gwen Stefani, but guess who's coming in to perform? Gavin Rosdell. I'm so close.

That would be amazing. Skydiggers. You're not excited. Skydiggers. Pretend you're excited. I've seen him in concert before. Look at you. We got a Pink Floyd

cover last night. We did. A little shine on, right? No. We should. No. Shine On, right? No. Oh, we should. No. It wasn't Shine On? It wasn't Shine On.

It wasn't Shine On. But I forget. Other side, Dark Side of the Moon. Nope. It was on that album, but not that one. When you say it,

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Brian Gerstein. Fucking love that guy. He's a big time Raptors fan. You know, I also learned something, though. He's only listening completely to all these sports media guests I have on. Like if Mike Hogan or Steven Brunt comes on, he listens to everything. But if I have on somebody like if Mike Hogan or Steven Brunt comes on, he listens to everything. But if I have on somebody like DJ Ron Nelson or whatever,

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you're leaving north oshawa for one blore west is it one blore west yeah that's what it is right you know how many emails i've got about that property? It's going to be tall. Yeah. Is that the word tall or high? What is it? And then there's one bluer east. That'll probably be getting emails for that in the next three years.

The way I look at it is you can literally look down on the rest of Toronto. You can. What did they say is the most desirable address in the entire city? This one. Yeah, one bluer. My wife works at One Young Street, but i think one bluer west is gonna need to upload that building it is they have you seen the designs no i haven't the plans for one young street are ridiculous like that becomes a whole like it's just gonna be like insane if this gets approved and happens really a whole bunch of towers and this whole park in there and there's

a whole like it we're going to come back and record an episode in 15 years and talk about how one young used to look. How shitty it looked? It's one of the- They do miss the Captain Johns. They had a nice view of the Captain Johns. I think that building

along with the Sears building or I guess soon to be old Sears building. Where's that? That's on Church or is Jarvis, Jarvis and something. That's my son's name. Sherbourne. Sherbourne.

That's where the Phoenix is. That's where I'm going to see. Who am I seeing at the Phoenix? I told you yesterday, you had no interest. I'm going to see, I'm Mother Earth and Finger 11 at the Phoenix. And I'm excited and you could not care less.

No, no. I would think about it because it's free more so for Finger Eleven than it is on I Mother Earth, which I quite like. So gently we go, levitate. There's some

cool shit from I Mother Earth. I'm not a fan. I know you're not. You're more into like the ACDC Led Zeppelin kind of. I'm certainly more hard rock. Yep. Strident rock, as Freddie P would say. But I Mother Earth is like up there with me with like Our Lady Peace.

No interest in either one of those. I like Our Lady Peace too. See, we do have a different music. We have some overlap, like Guns N' Fucking Roses, but there's a lot of. You go off into this hard rock world where I prefer a bit more of an alt rock kind of... If there was an I Am Mother Earth concert in the same building, just different floor as an Our Lady Peace concert,

which one would you go to? Me? Our Lady Peace. I'd go to I Am Mother Earth. I don't like either one of them, but Our Lady Peace is just... When somebody says something like this, let's say somebody says, I think I heard this recently from, maybe it's Freddie P actually, but he's like,

if Led Zeppelin were playing in the park across the street from my house, I wouldn't go. Are you fucking kidding me? You know what? I go down the street for free concerts. I saw Helix down the fucking street, okay? I'm not sure I would pay a loonie to see Helix,

but if they're playing live down the street, fucking right I'd go down the street to watch Helix. If the Ar're playing live down the street fucking right i'd go down the street to watch helix if the argos weren't playing at bmo i'd go see them for free i've paid to go see the argos before you paid to see the argos back in the uh flutie era yeah oh yeah yeah and then um did you did you see my new uh there was someone else beyond after that too uh after flutie oh mid 2000s the brother of the guy who played with OJ. How's that for... Can you work with me

on this one? Let's do this. Famous running back in the NFL has a brother who was a great quarterback Oh, I know what you're talking about.

I know what you're talking about. And he played for the Raiders, the brother. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Marcus Allen. So Marcus Allen is the NFL guy and our guy was Damon Allen.

That's right. No, it wasn't him. It was more... It was like the pinball coaching era. Okay. That I would have gone to it wasn't him. It was more, it was like the pinball coaching era. Okay. That I would have gone to them quite a bit. I can't remember who the quarterback was at the time, but they were good. They were really good.

They won a... Oh, Matt Dunn. No, Matt Dunnigan? No, that's later. Maybe. I don't know. Dunnigan was before Flutie, I want to say, but you know what? I can't remember. Fucking, our Argo's knowledge is ridiculous. I don't know. Ask Mike Hogan. Let's talk about the... Let's get to that.

So let's first say you're enjoying your beverage. You've got a blonde lager going there from Great Lakes Brewery. Yeah, it's good. You've got a six-pack you're taking home with you. It's good shit. I've got the Canuck Pale Ale. I have the Great Lakes 10th Anniversary Brewery beer, which I've never tried, which I'm excited to.

The Pompous Ass English Ale, which is good. tried, which I'm excited to. The Pompous Ass English Ale, which is good. Yes, the Octopus Wants to Fight IPA, which is good, and I'm really excited about this one. It's a 750ml

bottle, 650ml bottle of the Audrey Hotburn Belgian IPA. Which is great, but enjoy that octopus, by the way. It's cold, right? So that came out of the fridge because that's the last octopus in the house and they don't have it right now. Why?

What? You know what they do with these IPAs, eh? They get you addicted to them and then they pull them for six months or whatever. You know what I mean? So they're not making them right now. You know, I like IPA a lot, but I find that now the idea is let's... Not this one here.

They do a good IPA. But I find now that the IPAs are like, let's make them as hoppy as we possibly can. So that it's like eating... Like if you were to give me an entire jar of horseradish. I'm like, Jesus Christ, guys. Can we tone it down on the fucking hops here? My taste buds are bleeding. You just reminded me that we talked about Brian Gerstein.

Wonderful man. Sponsors independent Canadian podcasts, which puts him up in the echelon of great people. He's at the top 1%. Yeah, that's the top 1% right there. And he's giving you that pint glass. In fact, I only have a box left. Brian, if you're listening,

I'm down to the last box of pint glasses. And that means I got 20, is it 12? 12, I think. 12 left. And the rate I'm going, that'll last me a week. I got lots of guests coming in here. Who do you have coming? Oh my god. The people, it's really taken off. Let's do this. Let's do it like this.

Let me tell you the episodes that have been recorded since your last visit when you kicked out the fucking jams which by the way positive response people loved your jams because they were all guilty pleasures so i'm just kidding minus they were epic anthems they were anthemic except for two that organically happened we talked about this last night too like i didn't set out to make you know this this kick out the jams where it had like these eight minute songs but it turned into that and uh it was a groove that i was i loved it i stand by the list no you should um and but i'm excited to do another one and i was sort of kicking around some ideas last night about

some of the different ones that i could do we'll figure out a theme now let's say since you were last here we've had the following episode i want to know two things one is have you listened and two will you listen? That's always the fun part. I always have to get ready to be like... Underwhelmed? I'm always humiliated of sorts, I suppose. I'm always picturing

them being right in front of me when I say, I have no interest in watching this or listening to this. Alex Pearson. You're going to say who? No. Do you know who that is? Yes, but no. Okay, that's fine. I just want the truth, man. I just want real talk, okay? Larry Fedorik. No joke on that. I want real talk. I want the truth.

So no to Alex. Who is it? Sorry. Larry Fedorik. No. CFTR. I know. That's old school. I haven't heard that name in a long time. Fine. You're a tough... Did you talk about Tom Rivers? How come there's some people who listen to everything? I have to put an extraordinary guest on the table for you to listen.

I am not... Okay, next. I realize I'm not a podcast guy. I want to be. Norm Wilner kicked out the jams. Will you listen to Norm Wilner kicking out the jams? I would imagine that would be interesting. I do like Norm, but no.

No. You're 0 for 3. Oh, my goodness. Freddie Patterson from The Humble and Fred Show. Absolutely not. Why don't you like Freddie Patterson? It's because he's so conservative. He's fine.

It's fine. He once rallied against breastfeeding in public. Is that part of your concerns with Freddie Patterson? He needs to get off my lawn. Yeah. Let alone me getting off his. You would have a lot of comment after hearing your anti-smartphone rant. Come on.

I said you can do whatever the fuck you want. It can still bother me. Yeah, that's true. It is allowed to bother you. Freddie Patterson kicked out the jams. Will you be listening to that? No, I won't. But what was, can you give me a sample of like maybe a song?

Imagine by John Lennon. Oh, dear. Okay. Ivor Hamilton kicked out the jams. Oh, interesting. No. Colin DeMello. We did a deep dive. He's the weekend anchor for CTVams. Oh, interesting. No. Colin DeMello, we did a deep dive.

He's the weekend anchor for CTV News. Oh, interesting. CFTO News? I don't know how it works. CTV Toronto. Colin DeMello, will you listen to his episode? No. Larry Fedora came back very quickly.

He liked the Great Lakes beer. Yeah. He wanted another Brian Gerstein property in the six-point glass. And he wanted to kick out the jams. He was great at kicking out the jams. Nice. He had any interest in Larry's jams. No, but did he have a theme?

The theme is your 10 favorite songs of all time. Okay, fine. No, no interest. Jay Onright. Have you ever heard of him? Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely no interest. Can I ask you why it's a definitely no... You didn't even say definitely no interest. Can I ask you why it's definitely no?

You didn't even say definitely no interest to Alex Pearson, but you said definitely no interest to Jay Unright. Is it because Jay and Dan are promoted too heavily by TSN? What's going on here? You have zero interest because he's kind of funny. I don't care. I'm sure he is. I find him...

How do I say this? I just find on the air, I get that him and Dan have their shtick. It's fine. It clearly works. Who am I to criticize? I just, I think... Western radio zone? Right.

In my mind, he comes across as fake. That's fair. Your opinions are your opinions, even when you're wrong. It's hard to evaluate him as a broadcaster when I don't detect a sense of authenticity. When he comes back to kick up the jams, will you consider that one? Dan might be worse.

Dan is in Peterborough. Dan might be worse. Why is Dan in Peterborough? I thought they were back on the air. They are. He lives in Peterborough. Oh, dear. And he commutes in for that show? But where's Asian Court? That's like up in the northeast or whatever. Yeah, Peterborough? I thought they were out back on the air. They are. He lives in Peterborough. Oh, dear. And he commutes in

for that show? But where's Asian Court? That's like up in the Northeast or whatever, right? Yeah, Peterborough is way... So they're not going like here or whatever. They're going to Asian Court.

I know, but Peterborough is further away than my house. I know. Like way further. When I had to guess with Jay... He moved back from the U.S. to Peterborough? Yes.

Because Jay said, oh, he works in the East End. And I guessed Oshawa. And he said, no, further East. the East End. And I guessed Oshawa. And he said, no, further east. And then another guest came on and told me it was Peterborough. Jesus. Okay. So let's talk about a wonderful kick out the jams with my dear friend,

Sofia Yurstukovic. Nope. No interest in Sofia Yurstukovic. Good one. You've been practicing. Yeah. I just can't say it. Zivinko.

Zivinko. Zivinko. Zivinko. Is that okay? Zivinko. Sure. Okay. Why not Sofia kicking out the jams? Do you have any interest in Toronto Mikes at all?

Maybe I should just ask that one question. No, you're getting to some that I am. Laura Dyken from TSN, whose dad lives across the street from me. Oh, really? We had a wonderful conversation. Do you have any interest in Laura? No. I mean, any interest in Laura or any interest in the podcast?

How old is your youngest? My youngest is two. Charlie, right? Two. Three. Just turned three. Charlie is three. Yeah.

Charlie's the same age as my third. He's into it. He's into it. Trust me. I know. I saw your pictures. Okay. Yes, and I'm going to lift it up.

Doesn't that remind you of Big Shiny Tunes? Yeah, it does. Big Yellow Tunes. That's the whole point. It's for us guys. Splash and Boots came over. Both of them. Splash and Boots. Boots is the female. Splash is the male.

Did you make it so that your children were here? No. Because they were in daycare. I couldn't make that happen. But yesterday, before we went to Guns N' Roses, I went to this Halloween festival at Bloor West Village, okay?

I go to this. Splash of Boots are there. I have a good chat with each of them. What's her name? Boots on the microphone when she's doing her sound check. It's like, hey, Toronto Mike. She's waving at me. We're buddies now, okay?

Nice. I took some video of them doing Lovers in a Dangerous Time as a mic check a mic check or whatever and uh i'm there hebsey i bump into hebsey walking on bluer i'm there with my two little ones who are dressed in there as a one is a flower one is a shark and uh we bump into hebsey i bump into hebsey all the time now i guess it's because he walks around a lot and so do i i don't know we're bumping into each other hi heb, Hebsey. Then Winston from Breakfast Television is walking by. We flag him down. We have

a big chat with him. I invite him on the show. We take a picture. Look at all that. And Shane Corson is there. Shane fucking Corson. I get a picture of Shane Corson. Look at you. And he signs an autograph for Jarvis. I was walking by whatever show it is that they record at the Old Munch Music

Building now in the morning. And I saw Ben Mulrooney through the glass. That is a Bell property and they record Your Morning. Is that what it's called? Yeah, CTV. It replaced Canada. I don't watch any of that shit. Ben Mulrooney. You should get him in here. Maybe I will invite him. I have not

invited him. Get him in here. Fuck. Come on. Will you listen to Splashin' Boots? No. Have you seen Holy Shit? That's the last beer for you. Lowest of the fucking low. I saw that they played here. Yes. Will you listen to that? No. Holy shit. No. Was it good? This is a humiliating

experience. Why do I do this every time you come? Now I'm on a roll now. Why do I do this to myself every time you visit? This is great. What an asshole. Even if I would now, I'm going to say no. Mike? No. Stafford kicked out the jams. What an asshole. Even if I would now, I'm going to say no. Mike Stafford kicked out the jams. What an interesting storytelling. I will only listen to

Mike Stafford if he's on with Freddie P and they get, he renews his vows. He did shit all over people who like Imagine and I mentioned it was Freddie P's jam

because he says that is like. Why does he shit all over people? I don't want to misquote him but it was something about how bad high school poetry or something. He thinks... Wow. What?

Yep. One of the greatest songwriters of all time. Listen to Mike Stafford kick out the fucking jams, okay? Wow. Then Mark Weisblatt from 1236. He comes every quarter. That's right.

So every time you visit, you've missed the 1236 episode. He was here for episode 266. Will you listen to that? I still read his newsletter every day. But you will not listen to him on your buddy's right. So every time you visit, you've missed the 1236 episode. He was here for episode 266. Will you listen to that? I still read his newsletter every day. But you will not listen to him on your buddy's podcast. What an asshole.

I will not. Tim Thompson, what a great guy. He came over to kick out the jams. Why would you? He's just a great guy. Okay. I have a platonic crush on him. What is that called? A non-sexual crush.

Right, okay, sure. It's not a crush then. No, I don't want to skip ahead. Tim Thompson. Will you listen to him kick out the jam even though he picked the Guns N' Roses song? No. Jackie Perez who gave me this Doug Flutie bobblehead.

She came over to kick out the jam. Is she the one that attracted all of the sexist comments on your site? Be more specific. I don't know what her name is. There's a woman that came on your podcast who was wearing a pink shirt

and there was some commentary. Is this nipples? Are you talking about nipples that were showing through a shirt? No, it wasn't nipples. That was boots from Splashin' Boots. No, I didn't know. That wasn't it. Jackie is an attractive Filipina.

That's who it was. Yeah, and she's well-endowed. She has breasts, like many women do. They were talking about her guns. I don't partake in that discussion. She was so nice to me that she gave me six tickets to see an Argos game. Depending on what side of the fence you're on, you might think that was a nice thing or cruel and unusual punishment. She didn't have to do that.

I would have politely declined the tickets. I went to the game. All right. You ready? This is an episode I think you're going to want to hear. I don't want to taint the ecosystem or spoil it. Stephen fucking Brunt. Yeah.

The legend. The greatest journalist, greatest sports journalist this country has ever produced. Many, many a subscriber has written me a personal note to say that is the greatest episode of Toronto Mic'd of all time. It is downloaded on my phone, and you know what I'm going to do? Whoa, I'm getting excited.

I'm going to, I'll watch it, I'll listen to it on the drive home. Let me know what you think. I will. You will have whole newfound respect for me. Do you want me to send you a personalized note? I want you to tweet it at me so I can retweet it to the masses. Fucking personalized note, my ass. Damien Cox kicked out the jam.

I would listen to that again, yes. Are you a Damien fan? Yeah. Yeah, I like Damien Cox kicked out the jam. I would listen to that again, yes. Are you a Damien fan? Yeah. Yeah, I like Damien Cox. A very different Damien than the guy who visited me the first time. I'm going to be honest. Real talk. The Damien who visited me the first time, a little crusty, a little cold.

Okay? Okay. I wasn't sure. It was not a more, like usually these episodes at the end of them, I feel I had a pleasant experience. I wasn't sure what that was. His second, I was surprised he wanted to come back.

He came back, kicked out the jams. Tears were shed. It was warm and fuzzy. I got to know Damien on a level I never thought I'd ever know Damien. He revealed way more of himself than I think he realized. And that's when I realized, I'm going to tell you now, when somebody kicks out the jams with me, I have greater insight to who they are than when they come over for a 90-minute deep dive.

Are you speaking to one of those listeners that said that he doesn't like it? Oh, the guy who doesn't like any of the kick out the jams? That guy? Who are you talking about? Yeah. There was a guy on your blog. Yeah, I told him, that guy, and I would tell him to anybody who subscribes to this show and does not like the kick out the jams i would say this before we start kicking out the jams it is just another deep dive episode i treat the first half hour like a regular episode where we catch up and i ask the tough

questions we have a real dialogue real talk We do real talk for half an hour. Then we kick out the jams. So even if you don't want to hear music, like let's say you hate music. If you hated music, you probably would not like kicking out the jams. I don't know what's wrong with you. You hate music. What's wrong with you?

But you would still enjoy that first half hour. So the Damien Cox, before we kick out the jams, was enlightening. And then when we kicked out the jams, I really got to know the man. Oh, cool. Have I sold you kicked out the jams, I really got to know the man. Have I sold you on it? I will listen to Damien Cox. Absolutely, 100%.

Did he play Imagine? He did not play Imagine. What does he think of Mike Stafford? He did not comment on Mike Stafford. Alright. I forgot to ask him about Mike Stafford. What does he think about Boots? He thought that the picture was revealing and I said, stop slut-shaming.

This is not what we do on this show. I got to look at this picture. It's on your website? I got the most comments and emails about that picture than any other picture I've taken, and I've taken hundreds of those. Really? Does she know that?

I didn't tell her that. Should I? No. I didn't think I should tell her that. DJ Ron Nelson? No. I didn't think I should tell her that. DJ Ron Nelson. No. He may be the godfather of hip-hop in this city. Hard no.

Hard no? Is that because you're racist? No, it's not a hard no. It's a no. I'm not interested. You don't like hip-hop? None of your jams are rap songs, I noticed. Correct.

Okay. I do like hip-hop, but no. They wouldn't be one of my top jams. After the DJ Ron Nelson episode, the next episode is not a real episode. It is a no-sponsor-mentioned, off-the-cuff, 26-minute episode.

I did because I was talking about Gore Downey's passing. Where'd you get the idea? I was chatting with you and I was very sad and I said,

all I want to do, I said to you, all I want to do right now is go in the basin and record four hours of playing hip and talking about the hip and you told me to do it.

And then I looked at my schedule and I realized, I can't do four hours about anything. I got too much shit to do. But I said, I have to do something and then i looked at my schedule and i realized i can't do four hours about anything i got too much shit to do but i said i have to do something so i went downstairs right after our chat i don't think that was the exact conversation but well tell me what i screwed up there tell me so you said no i'm i'm i have a podcast later that day oh yeah yeah yeah i don't want to it was something like i don't want to do it slash no one's going to care or something like that.

Like, it's just me. Like, I don't do that. And I said, you have an opinion about this and a genuine emotion. People will want to hear it. It will help people heal. And it did. Did you listen to it? I did.

Oh, that's finally an episode you listened to. I did. Because it was only 26 minutes. Yes. That and also because it helped me heal or start the process. It's been shitty. So thank you for doing that, Mike. I appreciate you doing that.

Thank you for listening. And did you listen to the next day's... That I didn't. Eight minutes on this song right now I'm playing. I have it on my phone. I'll listen to the next day's... That I didn't. I have eight minutes on this song right now I'm playing. I have eight on my phone. I'll listen to that. I told my Gord Downie Hallelujah story and I played this song.

Maybe we'll talk about the hip bit a bit in a minute. I'm trying to find this fucking post. It's like, just go to like, I don't know, Google Splashin' Boots Toronto Mike and you'll find it. Before Jay Onright or after? It is before Jay Onright. No, it is after Jay Onright.

It is three episodes after. It's episode 263. Peter Bullitt from Great Lakes Brewery kicked out the jams. Did you listen to that one? No, but I'll drink his beer. You are drinking his beer. Did you listen to Kayla Gray from TSN episode 273? I did not.

And you won't? No, I will not. Terrible. Mike Hogan. When you get into newer broadcasters, I don't know who they are because I don't have to see them. But she had a lot to say about people of color in Canadian sports media. Oh, I read that little write-up and I thought that was interesting. It is interesting to me

especially because you're the one who told me the fan needs to do better. They cannot have... They need to be more diverse in their hiring practices. And Mike... Not Michael. I'm just looking at this picture now. That's funny. You've got to really look though. Jesus Christ. These guys... You've got a fucking bunch of horndogs. Well, you're looking at your shitty little

screen there. Kayla Gray. For example, I asked her is there another woman of color in Canadian sports media that you look up to and she couldn't name one. Can you name one? Woman of color in Canadian sports media. What's her name?

Felicia. Perdita Felicia. Perdita Felicia. Hurdler? Yeah. She works for CBC. I mean, now it's pretty niche, right? She's only ever on.

And she's a former Olympian. That's fine. That's fine. That's fine. You're allowed to be a former. Okay. So you found one that she couldn't come up with that one. I know, but it's also really niche. Can you come up with a second one?

In her defense, it's also really niche. The person that first came to mind, though, was, what's her name? The one that your boyfriend there slept with. Allegedly, Brian Burke. I thought you were going to say Jackie Redmond. I was going to get very upset. What's her name? I'm joking about the sleeping.

Hazel May. Hazel May, but she's not a woman of color. I don't consider, and we had this debate, Kayla and I, because Kayla told me, because I'm, you know, like Hazel, I'm married to a Filipina, and I don't consider her a woman of color. I don't consider, and we had this debate Kayla and I, because Kayla told me because I'm, you know, like Hazel, I'm married to a Filipina, and I don't consider her a woman of color. She is of Asian descent. Correct. But a woman of color is not Asian. No, you're absolutely

right. I was thinking of a diverse candidate. A non-white. You're thinking of a non-white woman in sports media. Correct. That's what I'm thinking, because that's how shallow that pool is, right? It's like,

fuck, it's hard enough to find a woman, let alone, I guess now, it seems like there's a lot of women on it.

A lot of these sports centers and stuff, like there's Carly Agro, there's a lot of them actually. The first one that I remember was Lisa Bowes

way back in the day. Oh, you don't remember Teresa Hergert? Hergert. She's the first one I remember. Then she became Teresa Cruz.

Correct. And then before her, though, you had her. Barb DiGiulio was the first one. And Mary Ormsby. Yeah, you're right. Mary Ormsby might be the first one. I didn't see as much of her on TV. No, no, no.

And I mean, like you, I was an avid fan. Well, she was a Toronto Star writer. Yes. And she was on Fan 590. With Steve Simmons or something? Was she on with Steve Simmons? I was an avid fan. Well, she was a Toronto Star writer. Yes. And she would come on occasionally with Bob. With Steve Simmons or something? Was she on with Steve Simmons? I don't know. Maybe.

She was an early, maybe a day one-er for the fan 1430. But Mary Ormsby. So was Barb, right? I don't think she was day one-er. Or she was really close? She was close. Barb would have been the only, first and only for a long time. And then you're right.

Teresa Cruz and then Lisa Bowes. Like on television. In the 90s. And now you get people like you get a former Canada hockey Olympian. But then Cassie Campbell. Cassie Campbell. But Jennifer Hedger. Jennifer Hedger was probably the TSN anchor that made it big.

Right? Where people actually like knew her name and stuff. From the lofters. Yeah. I don't know how many people would actually remember Teresa Cruz. But anyway, regardless, they're all white women. When you leave white, you're right. Hazel May is not a white woman, but she's

in a very exclusive club. Kayla Gray is a very young upstart at TSN who's trying to make a name for herself. And when she needs to look to a role model, she has to look to the United States of America because there are examples there. Does she feel like there's an opportunity for her, or does she feel like the doors are closed

because of who she is? Not closed, but she has to work harder, she feels. And then it was interesting because she's trying very hard to get radio time at 10.50 and they handed a two-hour show to Dart Guy. And I asked her for opinion on that. Anyways, I'll wrap this up real quick. I know people are enthralled by this.

After Mike... Okay, Mike Hogan. Will you listen to Mike Hogan? No. Longtime sports media personality in the city. So I saw some commentary on your site, and it's cool. I mean, you don't have to like everyone. And I know that Mike had a lot of fans at the fan.

And when he left... These are 18 years. And when he left the fan, there was a lot of people that were upset. And when he left... Was there 18 years? And when he left the fan, there was a lot of people that were upset. I certainly don't like to see a guy not have a job for no real reason. I wasn't a huge fan of Mike Hogan. I just wasn't.

Is it because his voice was too nasally? Nope. Voice is fine. Just wasn't my cup of tea. But again, I don't wish the man... Too much CFL talk, maybe. I don't... No, that's fine. I don't wish any ill will. much CFL talk, maybe. I don't... No, no, that's fine.

I don't wish any ill will. He just wasn't my favorite... You don't want him to die. You just don't want to listen to him. No, no, no. Listen, he didn't upset me by being on the radio. I didn't turn the channel. He just wasn't like My Cup of Tea.

Totally fine. And I thought that in the world of sports radio at the time, he was a perfect fit. But, you know, I also, I loved Storm and Norman, not entirely sure that Storm and Norman would work. Hammerhead alert. The way that sports radio is in the city these days.

Which sucks, because I really liked him. He was the original Dart guy. There's a lot of people who didn't like him either. I wonder what he's doing. Do we know what he's doing? I do know, but I'm not sure what to put out here. Except that he's changing careers. Gotcha. Okay. Let's what he's doing. Do we know what he's doing? I do know, but I'm not sure what to put out here. Except that he's changing careers. Gotcha. Okay.

Let's put it this way. It's tough sledding for a guy that age who finds himself on the outside looking into... So he's not on the radio anymore? Definitely not. Anywhere? Nowhere. Is he still a Sabres fan? Do we know? No, I don't know. He came in for a long episode. We had a great chat. I still have to remember that.

Yeah, it was a heel turn. Yeah, that was like Hulk Hogan going bad. That like hulk hogan becoming part of the new world order i was out of wwf by then but you're right you know it's like you know it's more like andre the giant andre the giant he became a member of the machine yeah that's right he had to wear the mask because he was banned right that's right yes yes and of course you know we didn't know who he was because of his mask right it's some guy of the very same body type. That unique body type had a mask on. He's just a fucking massive dude. Well, you know what pisses me off?

Those damn killer bees. Like, please, referee, you know what they do. Like, get a second ref to watch them or whatever, but we know they're going to, they're outside the ring. They're going to switch. They're going to switch. Jump in Jim Brunzel and... You know, I can't remember their names.

I just remember they're killer bees. Jump in Jim Brunzel and... The killer bees. can't remember their names. I just remember their killer bees. Jumping Jim Brunzel and... The killer bees. Ah, the killer bees. But you know what they're going to do, ref. Stop being so... If somebody comes to the side of the ring, Bobby the Brain or whatever,

to talk to you about what you're having for dinner, don't bite. Keep your eye on the prize. Talk about an entire sort of show in the 80s. How are we not racist? Jesse Ventura would call Tito Santana Chico Santana. Yes, I remember that. We just thought it was funny. And then he elected him governor.

My parents did not educate me at all to know that that was wrong. No, you're right. We were raised to be racist and we still overcame it. Or did we? That's a good question for another episode. But after Mike Hogan was my three-year-old son kicked out the jam.

Maybe Charlie wants to listen to that. I would listen to that. Play for Charlie. Can you give away one song so I have an idea of what I'm going to do?

Of course. Yes. One song is by Smash Mouth called All Star. Oh, really? Oh, so it was like real music. Yeah, a lot of real music. Wow.

A lot of real music. There was monkeys and gorillas. It wasn't like the name game or anything? No, it was like real music. Yeah, a lot of real music. Wow. A lot of real music. There was monkeys and gorillas. So it wasn't like the name game or anything? No, this is real music. It's not like wheels on the bus or any shit like that. These are real songs. Wow, I'm surprised. He watches a lot of cartoon movies, and he falls in love with the music from that.

So All-Star is from Shrek, as you might know. Yes, of course. Bob Willett was my last guest prior to you. He kicked out the jams in epic fashion on Friday night. It was fantastic. Would you listen to another person about your age? He's about your age. He's a guy who has similar jams to yours.

Would you listen? So he's the second person that's had two episodes in the time since I've been here. No. Yes. No. I thought you said he was, isn't he the owner of? No, that's Peter Bullitt. Oh, right. This is Bob Willett. Sorry. No. Yes. No. I thought you said he was, isn't he the owner of? No, that's Peter Bullitt. Oh, right.

This is Bob Willett. Sorry. No. Definitely not. I don't even know who that is. Should I know who that is? He's on, where do you live?

The Dirty Schwa. The Dirty Schwa. What is the name of your wonderful radio station? Oh, he's the guy, he's the guy. What? He's a DJ on The Rock.

But what does he go by? He goes by Bob Willett, but back in the day, he produced The Humble and Friends Show, and he went by the name Bingo Bob. That's who I... Oh, okay. Bingo Bob is now Bob Ouellette. I don't listen to the...

I should pay attention to the DJs more. You know who I know is Matt Diamond. He used to be... Well, what about Lobster Boy? He's your morning guy there. He's morning guy, though. But in the morning, if I am on the radio, I listen to The Fan. I listen to the fan.

I listen to my boyfriend, Greg Brady. Yes, because he's one of the two guests that you hand-delivered to my podcast. The first time. That's right. Not the second time. Yeah, Lobster Boy. That's right. I forgot that he's on there.

He's the morning guy with a guy named Lucky. His name is Lobster Boy, co-host of a guy named Lucky. And sometimes Bob Ouellette fills in for Lucky hey I fuck it's still feels very raw but

you once told me the first time you died when a singer died no the first time you died did I say that the first time you died the first time you cried was Prince right yeah and then you cried was Prince, right?

Yeah. And then you cried with George Michael. Yeah. So tell me how you reacted to the death of Gord Downie. Did you cry? This is a tough one. I'm going to cry right now. Go ahead.

I was sitting at my desk at work. I can't remember what time the notification came in in the morning, but it was super early in the morning. Eight something. And there was no one in the office on my team except for one person. And I was working away at my computer and got, I think it was the CBC News. It was definitely CBC News. I think they were the first ones to get the story.

And it popped up on my phone and I just out loud said, Oh, fuck. And put my head in my hands and for a split second just I didn't have any feeling I didn't know what to do and then I realized that I was at work and probably wasn't cool because I could hear

my co-worker asking me what was going on and I didn't say anything it was almost like that I don't know how long he had been asking me what was going on and I didn't say anything. It was almost like that. I don't know how long he had been asking me or saying something. Uh, and then I just said, Gord Downie died.

And, uh, he, he wasn't, he's a, he's an English guy, not a huge hip fan. I don't,

he wasn't sort of in his formative years here. Um, but he also under, he understands my feelings about the hip and what they mean to Canadian culture and music. And he's like, oh, shitty. And I just sat there for I don't know how long in silence

and couldn't wait for the day to end. And that was 8 o'clock. And that was before we chatted online. Yes, that was definitely when you inspired me to go downstairs and press the cord. My first reaction was to do that. then once i composed myself i uh messaged you and i think i my message to you is just fuck well you know what's my capital letters f-u-c-k when i got because i was on twitter so i dropped the kids off at daycare i get back eight o'clock i'm logged in now to work and then on twitter i got it was from the i followed the tragically hip on twitter and they put out it was just this just a statement and i didn't even have

to fucking read it i didn't have to read it right and i retweeted it with the word fuck right like i knew what it was before i opened it and i just like even though i was really to be honest i was heavily expecting it because of some things i had learned from people who knew Gord. And I really knew. Oh, okay. I knew it was bad. And I knew that the last time he'd be in a public appearance was July 2nd when my daughter saw him in Ottawa. And I know he didn't appear at the TIFF launch of Long Time Running. So I knew enough to know.

What did he do July 2nd? Is that when he got the order? No, he did a wee day. There was a wee day. That's right. And my daughter was there because she loves, this is where I choke up because she loves to tell me every time she sees my gourd because she knows how much

I love that fucking guy. And so I know July 2nd, my daughter saw a gourd at the parliament buildings in Ottawa. And I knew it wasn't going well. And I was expecting any day now I knew I would wake up and learn he had passed. And even though I knew that,

when I got the news, I just wept. And I was so grateful I don't go to an office to work. Like I was alone in my house and I could just cry like a baby and I didn't have to worry about some guy being at work.

I could just cry, and then we had the chat, and then I went down and recorded it 26 minutes, but I did weep. I didn't come across. I noticed when I listened back. You can't tell I'm bawling, but I'm actually openly crying in parts, especially when I talk to my daughter. That seems to be like a trigger for me or something, but I was openly weeping when I talked about it. And here we are now, what is it, a week and a half later, almost two weeks later, and I'm still processing it all, like the fact that he's gone. And my wife and others who didn't quite have the same connection to the man, it's almost like I struggle now to explain it because she's like, I'm all gourded out. I'm all gourded out. Like radio stations, some stations are still playing hip all the time.

And I'm still listening to hip all the time. And I'm like, I need this. And I can't imagine what it's like for somebody who, A, doesn't like the Tragically Hip music, or B, is indifferent to the hip music. They must be sick of it right now. You know, I found a lot of people that I saw. First of all, I always find it interesting when people say, you know, I didn't really like their music,

but, you know, I get that they mean a lot. So, sucks that he died. You don't have to say that you didn't like the guy, or you didn't like their music. I don't understand that part. But, um... Yeah, it's unnecessary. That detail is unnecessary. You can,

what do you call that? You can mourn or you can feel. Or you can skip this round or whatever. You can opt out or whatever. Right. You don't have to comment. It's like no one is looking. If you don't want to comment, you don't have to comment. Right.

I'm not keeping a scorecard as to who's commenting and who's not. Right. But I think. Sorry, burp. No, you go. Go burp and then talk. I don't know. The difference for me between...

Sorry, man. You don't have to apologize, man. I'm just glad you're human. The difference between Gord and someone like Prince, who both meant so much to me personally in my life, part of it was the hip seemed like they were part of my family in a way that I actually could have gone to a barbecue with them or had beers, whereas Prince was certainly a celebrity.

And as much as the hip-hop were celebrities, they didn't seem like they were celebrities, and maybe that's just being Canadian. I don't know. But with Prince and George Michael, it was just so sudden and shocking, and I wonder if that played a big part in the reaction that I had. There was no doubt that Gord was going to die. I remember sitting in my basement watching that concert with my kids and sort of like

bringing them in. They were obviously young and they don't care but I was bringing them in to watch the show with me to watch different songs on that concert because I wanted them to experience it even though they had no idea what was going on and didn't understand why daddy was crying watching that concert that last concert in Kingston and even though knowing he was going to die hearing that he died was it was like hearing someone from my family someone who was one of my best friends in life, was now no longer here to produce music like we're listening to. And it just is really, really shitty. I have a friend's mom who says one of the hardest things to do is to grow old. And this is a factor of growing old, I think, is that our heroes die.

And it sucks. And Gord, we trust. I tried to buy that T-shirt. It sold out. The last, unlike you, I did not cry when Prince died or when George. Actually, this is the first time a famous person I hadn't met died and I cried. This is the first time I've never cried for the death of someone you didn't know. Yeah. There's a lot of musicians who died. I really liked, like I didn't cry like Scott Weiland or

go back to Kurt Cobain or whatever. Chris Cornell. Like I didn't cry. I was just really sad. And I cried. Like I lost somebody I knew in the real world. It's like I knew the guy. Like he was my buddy. And the last time I died at a death period was Mike Kick when he died of cancer. And that's the last time I cried when somebody died. And then I found myself crying again. And I was thinking, you know, oh, this is how Elvis must have felt.

Like I totally related to you. I was thinking, oh, you know, Elvis cried when Prince died. Like, this is fine. But I cried a lot. And then I came down, I cried more. I recorded my cries. We're crying now. What did your wife think?

She knows. My wife is funny. Apparently this is a white guy thing. I saw you blogged about that or talked about it. I can't remember if it was Twitter or blog, but... It's white music, apparently. You're right, yeah. I have only recently started to realize this

because I thought, I don't know, maybe I thought the world was white. I don't know. Maybe I never opened my eyes. I don't know if I told the whole story, but just briefly about the Prince thing. It happened in the afternoon. I was at work

i decided i was gonna go out after work and try and drink away my tears um came home certainly not sober but not wasted either and uh i guess i was downstairs for an extended period of time uh not making any noise and so my wife was like what the fuck is Elvis doing on you yeah what's Elvis doing and and I was sitting on the couch with my phone and my earphones in listening to Prince music over and over and she's like what the fuck are you doing and I'm crying and she's and I'm like Prince died and she's like oh that that really I don't I don't really know what she said but then i got the bows we have a bows bluetooth speak yeah yeah yeah speaker and we just i just put on

prince music and i don't know how long we sat on the couch but just sat there arm and arm and i'm bawling the entire time until like you know you just don't have any tears left and you're just sad she's never once never once commented on. Never once sort of ever mentioned that night ever again. And I can only imagine what she thinks about how much of an idiot I am. She never really talked about the concert on, on the CBC either. Cause she knew that I, she just left me alone. And so I don't, she certainly doesn't have a connection. This is something very personal to you. She's giving you your space or whatever. My wife's doing the same thing. Yeah. certainly doesn't have but she gets that this is something very personal to you she's giving you your space or whatever my wife's doing the same thing yeah it doesn't have the connection to i don't know if she has connection to the to music in the way i do i don't

think so um but she knew she'll be very upset when someone in the backstreet boys passes right no it'll be new kids for her kids in the blog i'm sorry um but yeah, it was, fuck man. No, same here. Like my wife definitely, like I think, I think my brothers feel it like I feel it and buddies like you. Did your brothers cry?

I don't know yet. You know, I haven't had the conversation with them yet about it. I haven't seen them because there's lots of birthdays. I see a lot of them and then there's this gap.

Right. And then we're in the gap right now because my kids, the birthdays are like January, March, April, July.

So it's all like front-loaded. So maybe you'll see him at Christmas time for sure. Christmas time, I guess. For sure, for sure. But something about this guy, like, and I think of all people, the prime minister made me feel better, because he was crying, falling.

Go ahead. Yeah, go on. Okay, he was falling like i was and he had the same red eyes i had and he said something like we all felt we knew him or something and i felt like that's that's why i'm not crying like i'm very sad when tom petty dies and i'm very sad when these guys i love their music die uh these guys i love the music and they die and i'm very sad But I don't produce tears. But why am I producing tears for Gord?

It's because I felt like he was a personal friend. It wasn't, it was like, it's like I'll cry when you pass away, I'll cry. Okay? Because I plan to outlive you. That's my plan. I'm going to outlive everybody. That's my plan.

But when Gord passed, I lost a friend. And he was always there. And I loved him since 89 when I heard Blow It High Doe on Q107. That's a long fucking time. I was only 15 years old. You were even younger. He's gone. And it fucking breaks my heart that Gord is gone.

Fucking going to miss this guy. We're all going to miss Gord Downie. Friend's gone, man miss this guy we're all gonna miss gore downey friends gone man so i had two things one is um i get that i think i what i wrote on someone's facebook page so i have uh i work with a lot of americans and they are fascinated by our prime minister, for one. But two, I have a couple of good friends in the U.S. and they're like, you know, we don't know who this Tragically Hip thing is, but we're really, like, our feeds are blowing up with all the Canadians that we know about this Tragically Hip stuff.

And so they gave the music a little bit of a listen and I gave them sort of like, you know, a little bit of an analogy to make them understand sort of what they meant to us. Which is almost impossible, but yeah. It's hard. The one I keep hearing is that they're like sort of our version of R.E.M. That's the one I keep hearing, but it's not really a fair. I don't think it really makes sense. No, the best one I heard real briefly is if you took Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, and Michael Stipe from R.E.M. and you merged them.

You need to merge those three guys. Maybe, I guess. I would kind of, like, who's Neil Young then? Anyway. Fucking hope he doesn't die. You know? Because he's the godfather of Canadian songwriting. Godfather of grunge.

So they see this, you know, this obvious, this tearful Pierre Trudeau, or Jesus, Justin Trudeau talking about Gord Downie. And they're like, wow, we really get it now. Like this guy was massive. It was just really interesting to see some of the people that I am connected to that are conservatively bent as in politically and criticizing the prime minister for using this for, I think one of the comments that I heard was, you never should make someone's death about you. Oh, fuck that. And I never viewed that as that at all. I guess in theory, I guess he didn't have to do a press conference or that impromptu sort of, you know, statement to the press. But I don't know.

It seemed to me like they were genuinely, if not just friendly, friends. And Gord was pushing him in a direction that we're trying to hold them to account when it comes to Indigenous people in this country in a way that no one else could. And I think Justin appreciated that. And that's one of the parts of being a celebrity and being a celebrity politician in this country is that you get to meet other celebrities and get close with them i have no doubt in my mind uh regardless of who i voted for that those were genuine tears and then he wasn't doing it for a photo op and that he was like i need to say something to the nation that you know probably

feels like i do right now and and i appreciated that for my leader and i would have appreciated the same thing from stephen harper or or from, you know, what's Beardo, McBeardo, Thomas McClare. So that's the one thing. I agree. I would have wanted to hear that from Harper if this had happened, you know, a few years earlier. That's right. and then uh two did you see the uh movie i saw both i saw a long time running i watched it with my teenagers monica was in edmonton with the baby and i put the toddler to bed and i watched it with my teenagers and oh they're the sweethearts because they really don't care about the hip like and it's so clear but they watched every minute of that fucking doc because daddy said it was important to him those kids are the best awesome we watched it and i'm going they're

gonna re-air that thing on the 12th of november and i'm gonna watch it with monica uh but i also watched what i really enjoyed was the cbc aired the uh i really touched me they were the secret path the secret path oh that's right that's right the secret concert. And that was only about a year ago that it was recorded by Gord Downie. And just watching him a year ago and like doing the songs to the Secret Path, to the wonderful animation and that story, which haunts me. Like, imagine that, you know, you've got a terminal disease. You're going to die. And you decide, I am going to spend the rest of my life promoting this this this cause that has sadly

been overlooked for you know decades and gourd focuses on this cause and the i mean this guy like this is what he spent his final you know years uh final year on or whatever final months on and such a tremendous job the way those songs haunt me especially to that animation and that story like the fucking secret path have you seen the secret path i have not seen it yet either such a tremendous job. The way those songs haunt me, especially to the animation and that story, like the fucking secret path. Have you seen the secret path? I have not seen it yet either. Watch the secret path.

I haven't seen the documentary either. I wasn't able to. You know, if you see this concert, you don't need, the documentary is the concert live. The concert is the documentary live, if you will.

Like, so the secret path is, the story is told, either one, watch one of them. I'm going to watch both. What I, what I really want to see again is that final concert in kingston and i i wonder if maybe they don't want to release that because that's it would it would circumvent the it unfortunately it all comes down to money and

i wonder if they release that will people then not invest in the documentary i just want to buy all three i really want i don't three. I really want DVD copies. Although, is the Secret Path available for download? I know you have it up on your website. It's free. They put it on YouTube. Officially, they want you to... I bought a print, okay?

In fact, I just got the notice it shipped yesterday. But I bought this. The guy who animates that secret path doc story if you will he put out a print of gourd it's like the back of gourd and it's gourd way in the hat and in $50 and all proceeds go to the downy I want to get the name right I keep fucking it up Ken Chen weck is his name can't the secret path right well this print I bought and I can send you the link. And anyone who's listening and wants a link,

because I had a few requests, like I mentioned this in another episode, and they said, where's the link? I can't find it. I'll send you the link. $50, you get a print sent to you.

I'm going to put it up in this studio somewhere, and all the proceeds go to this foundation. And do that. Buy the Secret Path book. Buy the Secret Path album. But the actual movie secret path is a free

youtube view i put it on my site at some point like in the last couple weeks and it's free i want to buy that movie and i know that the dv the the move the new movie the documentary may not be out for a while because it's long time running it's going to go to the crave tv i think they're going to put it on oh yeah it's on US version of Netflix though, right? Yeah, right? But yeah, I want to get that too. So I had,

okay, so I could talk hip over. I don't know if I have a cry down here before. Not like that. You know what I've

noticed? Maybe it's because I'm getting old. There's a lot, I'm crying a lot more in this podcast. It sucks getting old. That's what it is. I cried of Cox. There's a lot. I'm crying a lot more on this podcast. It sucks getting old. That's what it is.

I cried of Cox. You cried with Cox? Yeah. I cried of Cox because we had a shared experience. I actually started to cry with Bob Ouellette on Friday night. What was it? Because he played a song that triggered something. Songs are triggering shit.

Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the power of music, right? That is the power of music. What was it that we were saying before that we were going to listen about Cox? And Steve told me, my brother Steve told me that it's not as funny as I think it is. And I said to Steve, you had to be there. That's your older brother. We peed our pants.

I peed my pants. I peed my pants. Fuck, what was it about Cox? That's funny. I forgot that he listens to every one of these. Yeah, he does. He's a good brother. He did warn me because I had this fantasy where I was going to get this woman who talks about biking in Toronto.

I was going to bring her on and we're going to talk about biking. He goes, just so you know, that's an episode I won't listen to. He's listening to everything. He's listening to fucking Jarvis. That's his nephew. If he doesn't listen to that, come on. That's a cute gift. The kid's fucking three years old. No offense to Jarvis. That's his nephew. If he doesn't listen to that, come on. That's a cute gift. The kid's fucking three years old. No offense to Jarvis. I noticed the comments are really sweet on that episode.

I told my wife. My wife was reading them and she was smiling. I said, well, no one's going to be a dick in the comments. You know what? I'm going to listen to it and I'll comment tonight. I'll tag Monica in it. Yeah, so Steve warned me not to do that. You know what's funny, though? I never did that biking episode. Steve warned me he wasn't going to listen. I'm like warned me not to do that. You know what's funny, though? I never did that biking episode.

Steve warned me he wasn't going to listen. I'm like, I better not do that. He's listening to all this other bullshit that you have on here. He's listening to me. He's listening to me. I'm sure he's listening to you. I mean, shit. You and his wife

have something in common. You're in the club. We do. We do. She's lovely. Is she? She's very nice. I wasn't sure. I think she's fine, but I wasn't sure she's lovely. Well, I don't know her, but I just know her from Facebook, and I think she's a very nice person, it seems like.

She does a good job on her nails. I see lots of updates. Yeah, there is a lot of... Some kind of a press-on nail or something? I don't know. Something that she tapes or glues on her nails or something, and I get lots of updates on that.

I think she has a good time with her nails. She also, she does... We shouldn't talk about your sister-in-law. Oh, especially since we just acknowledged Steve listens.

Yeah. This is getting to her. Yeah. She does a lot of selfies in the car. Yeah, I think she enjoys selfies. The same, you were making fun of selfies

at the concert yesterday. Selfies at the concert while the concert is going on? For fuck's sakes, listen to the concert. That is the time you do the selfie. No. The selfie in the car is unnecessary. We disagree on this. When you're 80 years old and you're looking through your photos

and there's the selfie of you and your buddy at the fucking Guns N' Roses concert, that's the shit that's going to matter. The selfie in your car, who cares? But that selfie of you at Guns N' Roses concert, that's the shit that's going to matter. The selfie in your car, who cares? But that selfie of you at Guns N' Roses, you're going to, oh, I remember that concert. They played for three and a half hours and they did the cover of Soundgarden and you're going to fucking have this flush

of memories. You'll start to cry. That's the shit. I know you don't believe in nostalgia, but that's the shit that matters. I'm okay with pictures. It's just the selfie during the show. Can we make a request here? Can you play Grace 2? Yes, I'm happy to pictures. It's just the selfie during the show. Can we make a request here? Can you play Grace 2? Yeah.

Yes, I'm happy to play Grace 2. I was about to turn the channel, so to speak. Oh, okay. Sorry. I feel like the rest of the show is going to have Gord in the background for us. Well, I was going to say, we don't have to. Gord isn't, you know. I'm still reeling. I can only imagine the fucking write-up of this episode.

Yeah, we talk about Guns N' Roses. Guns N' Roses and Child's Head. We talk about Peck's episodes and then both of us cry over George Michael. If you're going to cry over fucking George Michael, you better cry over

George fucking Downey. I know. I even said on this podcast I was surprised. I was surprised. I was surprised by the George Michael. Is that the only three artists

you've cried for now? Yeah. You didn't cry for Tom Petty? No, I was upset. You know what't cry for Tom Petty? No, I was upset. You know what I did with Tom Petty? Tell me. So I love Tom Petty. I love his music.

Sure. I didn't know a lot about him. So I went on to Netflix. So you hadn't seen that documentary long time running? No. I see it twice. Yeah. So I went on Netflix and it popped up as like obviously popular.

And I was like, fuck, I'm going to listen to this. Or I'm going to watch this. And I was like, fuck, I'm going to listen to this. Or I'm going to watch this. Four hours. It was phenomenal. And it won like multiple Grammys and shit or Emmys or whatever. You need to turn me on to that with Barry fucking Davis. Really? You know what I'm going to start doing?

Putting fucking in the middle of everything. You know what started this? Guns and fucking roses. There's a lot of people call me Perry fucking. Is that right? Never mind. Oh, yo. Delete, delete.

Edit, edit. Holy shit. You almost fucked up there. But I noticed that. The Tom Petty doc, he was great. Somebody, I get a, somebody, Grant, his name is. He DMs me because I tagged Elvis Run on something about this podcast. I said, after Guns N' Roses, I'm recording at Elvis Run.

He writes me a DM and he's like, you mentioned at Elvis Run. You're only supposed to mention at Oshawa Elvis. And I told him, in my brain, I've turned the switch. You have given me permission. You've come out of the closet when you kicked out the jams. At Elvis Run is the here right now. Not Oshawa Elvis. Is that correct? It's at Oshawa Elvis.

Not at Elvis Run. What were we saying? I don't know. I don't know. But can I... Here, let me just... In the last little bit before we wrap up. Tomorrow's Halloween. We were saying something. Oh, was it important? I feel like it was.

Should I stop and rewind? Well, let's think. What were we talking about? Hold on. You were... I honestly can't remember. We were done with... We finished with our tragic hip.

I don't know what you're talking about, man. Yeah, I can't remember. Someone will remind us in the comments and then I'll finish my thought. We'll pick it up next time. I'm sure it was profound. I'll finish my thought. It'll come back to you. Real quick, I'm going to just play not the whole song,

but I'm just going to run down some Halloween jams. And with all due respect to Ray Parker Jr., I'm not going to play fucking Ghostbusters. Okay, that's too easy. No. Great Ghostbusters scenes in Stranger Things 2. Oh, don't. Because I'm still watching Mind Buster.

Mind Hunter. Mind Hunter. Mind Buster. Mind Buster. I'm watching Mind Hunter, so I have to finish that first. I'm only three episodes in, but there was a great Halloween scene of them with Ghostbusters. It's not a

giveaway that it's Halloween. I love movies. I realized as I watched Mind... What's it called? Mind Hunter? I like TV shows that take place in the 70s. I like to see the 70s on television, but I also like the early 80s.

And that's where I like Stranger Things because I like looking at the early 80s and I this at this show I'm watching Mindhunter is taking place in 1977 and I like the look of 77 and speaking of 70s and 80s television yes I was um home one evening by myself not by myself but I was by myself at home. Other people were asleep. And I had a couple of gins and I was like, you know what? I think I'm going to buy the entire series of

Three's Company on DVD. Holy fuck! How drunk were you? And then I realized that's a bad idea. Even if I drunk and stupor, I was like, it's a bad idea. It's a bad idea. When am I ever going to watch Three's Company again? In my mind, it's one of the greatest sitcoms of all time, but I know if I ever were to watch an old episode, I'd be like, this is...

And it's also a show that could never happen right now. Because it's mildly homophobic? The concept doesn't make sense. Oh, that's the concept, yeah. Yes, why can't two women and a guy live together? A guy has to pretend to be gay to live with two women. And Furley did a lot of twinkle toasting.

Oh, yeah. He did a lot of... So did Mr. Roper. Big time. I remember it from much more from Furley for some reason. But yeah, Roper too. And then like the wide eyes. Like you'd go crazy when like, you know.

And we're thinking of things that don't age well. Like those things don't age well. But the tune from Lies, G&R Lies, that they played last night, the big hit, I Used to Love Her. That doesn't age well. I used to love her, but I had to kill her. She bitched so much,

it drove me nuts, and I can still hear her complain. It's funny to listen to that in 2017. It's also listening to, like if you watch Eddie Murphy Delirious, he makes a lot of gay jokes and stuff, and AIDS jokes.

Lots of F-word stuff. I had trouble, I was like, oh, I remember laughing, me and my buddies laughed so hard at this, I can't wait F word stuff. I had trouble. I was like, oh, I remember laughing. Me and my buddies laughed so hard at this. I can't wait to revisit it. I really had to turn it off

because it's really heavy on the F word. So I've never, I've never turned it off. I still laugh at it, but I do admit that you have to put yourself back in that moment.

Yeah, yeah, context. Yeah. Interesting how that happened. But yeah. Why are we listening to this again? Oh yeah, it's okay. Remind me. This is Ministry

before they changed their sound. Ministry became a really fucking cool like industrial hard rock thing. But this is back when they were kind of like a new agey thing or whatever. And this is Every Day is Halloween. This is like Duran Duran.

Or um. They completely changed their sound after this. Is it Al Jorgensen? Is that the guy's name? Someone else. Who else is it? Ah, I can't remember.

But this is every day. Depeche Mode. Depeche Mode, yeah. This is Every Day is Halloween. But then they had Jesus Stole My Hot Rod. Jesus Built My Hot Rod. Jesus Built My Hot Rod. It's a love affair.

Yeah, and they did New World Order. It's fucking great. That album, New World Order, is heavy. Cool shit. They keep playing that song over and over again. CFNY did. Yeah, and I listened to it a lot there. And I won't play this whole thing except to say that it is a classic and it's still good.

Is this Monster Mash? No, I gave the finger to Monster Mash. It's out. But this is Michael Jackson's Thriller. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean. Well, the album.

Like, I revisited the album and the album is better than I even remember it. And I owned it on two different cassettes. Can you imagine anyone releasing an album like this again? Ugh. Think of all the albums out there. Howard Stern recently had Robert Plant on, and so they had a debate on the show as to what the best Led Zeppelin album was. Four.

And his argument is two. Led Zeppelin album was. Four. And his argument is two. Led Zepp two. Which I mean, I don't even know what the right answer is. But you go back and listen to Led Zepp two, which is what I did. I downloaded it on my phone. I was like, oh my God. Every single fucking song.

And then you go to four, because I would have migrated to four as well. And then you go to four and you're like, oh my God. Every single song is fucking great. I like four, but I was not as big a fan as you. So I did a migrated to four as well. And then you go to four and you're like, oh my God, every single song is fucking great. I like four, but I was not as big a fan as you, so I did a lot of four. Oh, I have,

I love everything. Yeah. There's not, there's nothing that they get that I didn't like. So the Led Zeppelin is to you as I Mother Earth is to me. Yeah.

Sure. Anyway, this is still a fucking killer track. We don't need it. Yeah, but I believe in fading down my songs. I don't like it when people cut a song. Did you get creative here?

Did you just do a Google search for Halloween? No, I didn't search Google. I searched my collection. That's the first thing. So I searched my own personal music library. And I searched for many terms. Like, for example, I'm going to see how long it takes you to name this tune

this is the guess who after Bachman leaves I think pretty bad can we not listen to this Bird and Cummings Bachman leaves, I think. Pretty bad. Can we not listen to this? Bird and Cummings?

Can we not listen to this, please? Oh, my goodness. That's a terrible reaction. You know, before the Tragically Hip, the Guess Who was the big Canadian band. I know you have CanCon requirements here. I do like CanCon. Rush would have been, but anyway. No, Rush doesn't have a good Halloween song, do they?

No. Why not this band? You know, Rush doesn't have a good Halloween song, do they? No. Why not this band? You know, I don't want to do any spoilers, except that I've been trying to put my 10 jams together. There's a track on my 10 jams right now, subject to change. Is this finally the opportunity I have to interview you? No, I'm going to play my fucking jams and talk about my jam. What interview?

Have you listened to any Kick Out the Jam episodes I've done? Someone needs fucking jams and talk about my jam. What interview? Have you listened to any Kick Out the Jam episodes I've done? Someone needs to ask you questions about them. Nope. When I do a Kick Out the Jams, I play the song and I let the person who picked the jam does the talking.

I rarely ask questions. But it's an interesting dynamic. I don't know. You can ask questions if you want. So anyways, I have a jam right now on my 10 by this artist, Band of Horses.

But it's not this jam. But do you know this jam? No. Is there a ghost? I think that's what it's called. This is horrible. Like every song has been horrible so far. It's a great tune.

Except for Michael Jackson. You're wrong about this one. So just one song has been horrible so far. It's a great tune. Except for Michael Jackson. You're wrong about this one. Just one song has been horrible. It started off horribly. I'm glad because I noticed you and I have a difference of opinion on musical preference. You really think this is awful? No. I love this track.

It started off horribly. This is much better. You know, it's hard to judge a song in one listen. Like, you need to kind of take it in, maybe take it in a second time, then you have an opinion. All right, what's next? Maybe I wouldn't be a good co-host.

You know what? For your kickoff chance. If this is your audition. This song sucks. What's your next one? Okay. When Peter Bullitt from Great Lakes Brewery sat where you're sitting now and we started off with Pitbull.

Right. I never said a fucking negative word about it. I'm like, your jams are your jams. Let's talk about this. Come on, Elvis. i'm like your jams are your jams let's talk about this come on elvis your jams are your jams but this isn't gonna kick out your jams officially no this is just not music just run and skyroy orbison traveling wilbury like tom petty but this is no this is a traveling world, right? No, this is Roy Orbison. Tom Petty, man.

Fuck. That documentary, though, Running Down a Dream, when Barry Davis turns me on to it, I watch it, and then I'm telling my neighbor about it, and I sold it so much, I sold myself again.

It was so great. I got to go back and watch it a second time. It's amazing. I'm so glad I got to see that documentary while he was alive so I could appreciate him while he was alive. Unlike you who only

appreciates him after he's dead. This is Running Scared. Yeah, I got to see Foo Fighters. Do you know this track?

No. Oh. It's a popular song. I'm not a big Roy fan. Only pretty woman for you. I am. I think we should just record where I play music for you and tell me if you know the song or not,

and then we talk about it. Okay. I got more. How many more? A few more so are you playing music of songs that appeared in movies where there was a Halloween party is this a music is this a movie I don't know I just imagine this being like oh I don't know it's a movie in 1980 I'm gonna say 83 but don't quote me on that I bought my first piece of vinyl. I already had some cassettes, but I didn't have any vinyl.

And I went and I bought a used copy of Duran Duran's Rio, primarily because of how obsessed I was with this song. That's impossible. Wasn't this an original release for the Wedding Singer soundtrack? Is that why you called all the Guns N' Roses covers Bon Jovi covers? Yeah, that's right. I said that a few times, right? I wonder how many people last night

knew that Live and Let Die was a cover. And I said to you, everyone. Right. Everyone knows that's a cover. Everyone who would be at a Guns N' Roses concert knows that's a cover the 19 year old woman beside you

clearly wouldn't have known the 37 year old woman beside me I bet you even she knows that's a cover or she just doesn't care there's a lot of people that think that

that's a GNR original do you think so? I do I really do I'm not trying to be an ass I think on that the two covers on that Use Your Illusion

double release Knockin' on Heaven's Door Knockin' was great last night but I think that there yeah it was and that was one where they did an was great last night. But I think that there, yeah, it was. And that was one where they did

an interlude in between. But I think Knocking on Heaven's Door is harder to know or harder not to know it was an interlude. But don't you think that because remember,

when did the album come out? 91? 90? When did it? 91. 91. So in 91,

you're not that far removed from the band. You know what i mean like it's not like now where it's like oh mccartney was in another group after the beatles like some kids are today would be like i didn't know mccartney did something else would you i wouldn't have known that the band was but it was like a carton see i did but i'm a couple years i would maybe that's the difference 15 15 i would have that would have been. You were born in 76? Yeah.

See, I'm 74. I think that's a key two years. Yeah, 15 to 17 is probably big. You're right. I even knew it was a theme for a James Bond movie. Like, I can't... Like, I'm trying to remember the moment I realized that McCartney was in Wings. I knew that.

I think I knew he was in Wings when I knew he was in Beatles. Like, I think I've always known when he was in Wings. I knew that. I think I knew he was in Wings when I knew he was in Beatles. I think I've always known when he was in Wings. This is a good song. I listened to this just organically two weeks ago at work. Really? I pulled up Fresh Prince Essentials on Apple Music

at work. And you got, I think I could beat Mike Tyson. Yeah, and I parents just don't in this song. Hilarious. You know, I enjoyed him as a rap artist. I did,

because I felt he was too milquetoast. Like, I was in the public enemy and this guy was way too, That's fair. That's fair. Too corny.

I know, but it was funny. I enjoyed it. guy was way too that's fair that's fair too corny i know but it was funny i enjoyed it it was like i i admittedly i'd watch the videos and think oh my parents don't understand i get it like but it wasn't uh i didn't have an edge to it you know i don't know if we ever talked about this but did you ever listen to two live crew of course as nasty as they want to be i delivered newspapers to that album on my my Sony Walkman for probably an entire year. I thought you were delivering newspapers to the album. I'm like, the album was subscribing to newspapers? For literally an entire year, I bet. Because you like Miso Horny.

And Fuck Martinez. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of shit on that, though. Ass Down, Face Up. That was an album just like Appetite for Destruction. That was an album that felt dangerous to own. Yes. It felt like you were dealing in narcotics or something. Yeah, and it was like you couldn't buy it unless you were 18.

Right. And I wasn't 18 when I was delivering newspapers just for the record. This is Nightmare on My Street, which of course, I'm going to do my best Freddy Krueger. Welcome to Prime Time, bitch! No. I gotta work on it. You don't know Freddy Krueger? Freddy Krueger. Welcome to prime time, bitch. No. I gotta work on it. You don't know Freddy Krueger? Freddy Krueger was fucking scary, but he

said bitch a lot. He was like the Jesse Pinkman of his time. A lot of bitch. Welcome to prime time, bitch. Have you watched Ozarks on... So a co-worker described it perfectly, I thought. Good show, shittier writing, shittier acting than Breaking Bad.

I thought it was an okay show that I won't recommend to anybody. Really? Because I found it way too slow. Oh, I liked it. I liked it, but it was 10 episodes, right? If I don't like a show, I'm not going to watch all 10 episodes. Did you not watch all 10? I watched all 10. That's how I know I liked it to a level

of like where I'm going to watch all 10 and I kept thinking maybe it'll get better. I actually don't think it's a great show. Like I hear some people tell me, oh, you got to see Ozarks. But I refuse to put my name on the recommendation for Ozarks. I will, but I will do it with that caveat because I think it works out well. And it's funny. To let people know what you're saying, it's bad writing?

No, no, no. It's funny. It's funny to say. It's a good show. I really enjoyed it. I recommend it. But shittier acting, shittier writing than Breaking Bad. Yes, you're right. So just go watch Breaking

Bad again. Wow. But that's I think the big difference is that's eight seasons or nine seasons, whatever it was. Seven. Yeah. No, I know. I watched all ten. Didn't hate it, but didn't love it. But I love this fucking track right here. It's a good song. Enjoy

every sandwich. It's a good song. I Every Sandwich. It's a good song. I like it. Did you ever see him on the Larry Sanders show? Did you watch Larry Sanders? No, but I should. You know what I should watch? Someone has said to me, dude, they shook me.

Said, you got to watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. I've seen one episode. Is that right? I'm up to date. I haven't seen Sunday's episode, but I've only one behind. I might be completely current episode. I'm up to date. I haven't seen Sunday's episode, but I've only one behind. I might be completely current. I think it might have been

when I told them that I wanted to buy the Three's Company DVD set and they're like, fuck you, buy Curb Your Enthusiasm instead. It's better than Seinfeld in some regards.

All I'm saying is it's funnier and some of the episodes are funnier than Seinfeld. Because they could do things that you couldn't do, obviously, that you can't do

on network television. Great chance. Are there nudity in it? No. I don't remember seeing any nudity. Swearing, though, right? Is there swearing on Curb? Very mild if there is. It's not a part of the show.

There's one episode where a chef has Tourette's. So there's lots of swearing like that. But it's kind of like appropriate swearing, if you will. Gotcha. Larry doesn't drop an F-bomb or whatever. Like Barry fucking Davis or anything? Right. Barry fucking Davis. I heard he's podcasting on the Dean

Blundell Network. Network? Dean has a network? Yeah. Something like that. All right, buddy. All right. How many more do you have? That's like it, really. I gotta pee. That's it. Hold on. I've had two beers. I gotta pee. Hold on. Hold your had two beers. I got to pee. Hold on.

Hold your bird, buddy. We're wrapping up right here. All the crying didn't get rid of my liquid. Imagine if you could cry urine. It would be so convenient. Fuck. Oh, man. Did you know these guys? I can't wait for the fucking assholes

that are going to come in and be like, you pussies for crying. I told you this at the show. You know, we had that hour and a half to chat before the show and I told you this is the truth there was a time in the history of this five and a half whatever five

plus year endeavor where if there was an Elvis episode I'd get somebody would write me or I'd get comments saying like oh fuck another Elvis like I hate that guy I don't get those anymore people in

fact if I get any comments about you coming on it's positive it's nice people say nice things on the blog and i i appreciate that but this is my show i'm just happy to be a part of it every couple of months you're just delivering the uh oh david alter and the greg brady and you failed miserably at delivering the elliot freeman i had to do it i had to fucking do it myself so it's uh you know what i think this i think i me, I just have fun. I have no interest in it. But I think,

I think it's fun to hear two guys just chat about stuff. Before you piss. And, you know, you get the unique parts of it. If you don't like it, don't listen.

How crazy is this podcast though, Mike? We started off talking about one of the bands that we both love and are so influential in our on our musical tastes just like they changed our world in a way guns and fucking roses and then we talked about another band and just had a completely opposite reaction uh talk about a polar podcast such life, the variety of life. My friend, quickly, TFC prediction, real quick. We will draw tonight in New York 1-1,

and we will win next Sunday 3-0 and move on to the conference finals. And that brings us to the end of our 276th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Okay, you tell me. I can't figure it out. Which is the handle you'd like to promote for Elvis?

You do it. Tell me. At Oshawa Elvis. You're sure about that? Yeah, sure. So you're still in the closet? Sure. Who are you hiding from?

Kevin Spacey. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. American Beauty is a great fucking movie and propertyinthesix.com is at Brian Gerstein House of Cards is pretty fucking good too haven't seen it

but fucking if I don't love Seven that's a great fucking movie too dude he might be the best the best president of the United States on film

haven't seen it you haven't seen any House of Cards not a minute oh dude because Monica watched it on her first mat leave, and I missed it because she was watching it without me.

Now it's like I'm done. It's good. It's good. Better than the Ozarks. Pay TM. Yeah, that's a little bar. Pay TM is at Pay TM Canada. See you all next week.

I wonder who. Maybe the one who doesn't realize there's a thousand shades of gray. Cause I know that's true, yes I do. I know it's true, yeah. I know it's true.