Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Family First: Toronto Mike'd #651

Episode Date: May 22, 2020

This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out songs from family bands with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon.

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And joining me for Pandemic Fridays are Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Hello. Heyo. Welcome, gentlemen. hello welcome gentlemen it's great to see your shiny happy faces again this week shiny happy Cam doesn't like shiny happy people

but shiny happy I'm a fan of I'm happy to see you man this is like this is never ending my friend yeah we're all working from home forever See you, man. This is like, this is never ending, my friend. Yeah. Stu.

Yeah, we're all working from home forever. Well, yeah. Well, you are, right? Now, Stu. Pretty much. Why are you telling me this terrible news that the beard is going away next week? Like, why not just keep it for the whole pandemic? Well, Linda doesn't like the beard. So, you know, you got to do, you know how it is, Mike.

You know, you've got it, girl. You know how it is. Dude, just to confirm, this isn't Linda Gordon, my mother, right? It is, actually. Is it? Holy shit. That explains everything. I was actually talking about Linda from Sesame Street.

Right. With Louie. Was it Louie? Yeah. Because Gordon was... Yeah, there's Louis. No, you're talking about Louise. I'm talking about Linda. But wasn't there a guy named Lou?

Louis? Louise, yes. Louise. Wasn't he married to Maria? Maria! No, he was married to Maria. I think that was Lou Skeezes, was it not? No, no, no.

There was Gordon, Olivia, Susan, Maria, Louise, Bob, and Linda. Yeah, Bob. And Mr. Hooper and Dave for a limited time, but both of them didn't make it. Yeah. Mr. Hooper, they had like a funeral on, like Bird talking about death and shit. I actually learned about people dying from that episode. Yeah. So not when the butterfly died on today's special,

because that was a big deal. Spoiler. What? Is that season four? I'm not there yet. Oh, snap. Okay.

So, but, uh, I can't tell if it's a bit or not, you know, I'm not as quick as you, but are you really losing the beard? No, no, the beard is not going to be here next week, for real. It's not going to be here next week. Okay, but nothing to do with Linda. Because I think Linda likes the beard. Oh, does she? She likes everything about you.

We have a new gentleman here with us today who has a better beard than me. So I can't try to compete with his beard. Why don't we use this opportunity? Let's do a screen cap. One, two, three. Oh my God, I always mess this up. Okay. Put on your mask, VP of sales. So I just want to say hello to uh anybody out there

in the wings um leva fumka's with us again this week good to see you leva how are you holding up leva this is where leva unmutes herself i know i'm slow i'm slow. You? John Cage over here. And we'll leave the top secret gentleman in the corner there. We'll keep him incognito, but it's always good to see his wonderful beard. That's a clue. And somebody with a beard. Okay, you're losing your beard. Is it because you have to film something or is it just becoming annoying?

No, I have to do something professionally and I have to look like the way that I did when we took a picture. We filmed a movie last year and I have to take a photograph for the movie and it has to look like I did in the movie. So I have to go back to normal. But the good news is, is that we do know that I look that I can do this. It is achievable. And for the next pandemic, I'll be able to do it again. And, you know, beards are fun. But it's time, you know, every good beard must come to an end. Okay, so two things. One is that you grew it very quickly. So I suspect we'll still be in lockdown and you'll have it full again, your beard. Yeah, I think that there's a good chance that we'll be back again. It'll be back again, maybe this season on Pandemic Fridays, unlike

the butterfly from today's special. I think the amazing thing about Stu's beard, to quote The Grateful Dead, there's not a touch of grey in his beard. He's like Hollywood Hogan. You're seeing a weird... You're not getting a good light here.

I sharpie it. I use a sharpie. Okay. Right, yeah. It looks to me pretty... It looks very Joey Batts-esque, as we've talked about in the past here. Now, speaking of movies... And like Joey Batts, I'm drinking my booster juice right now, as we get

prepared for this episode. Now, on a producer note here, I think there's a mic rubbing against a piece of clothing or something. I don't know who it is. I think there's a mic rubbing against a piece of clothing or something. So just I don't know who it is. I think it's used to. But I hear I don't know if you hear the little rattle in the background. So usually it means like a mic is rubbing against a shirt or something like that.

So that's my producer note. But on a more important note, tell us about the movie that you made a couple of years back. Wonderful horror movie called Scarecrows that we can all now watch on demand. Tell us about that. Yeah, that's really nice of you to allow me this opportunity to plug

a new film that is out on demand right now. I know Leva has been looking forward to it and now she will have an opportunity to watch it. It's called Scarecrows. It is a horror film in a sense, but in its truest sense, it's more of a comedy horror film. Can I ask, is it like Shaun of the Dead, that kind of thing?

No, no, no. It's not a movie that acknowledges that it's a comedy. Uh, the distributor wanted a horror movie, so it's still, it still looks like a horror movie. It's more like a, like a, like an 80, an homage to like 80s, 90s slasher movie with like the, uh, uh, if like, um, it was like scream, like a scream type of vibe. Gotcha. So so it's not it's not self-aware if it's comedic in any way it's not self-aware but it sounds like it'd be a fun watch it's definitely like a popcorn flick and uh if you're into like indie horror films then you'll probably like it and if you're uh a fan of the toronto mike show then you'll for sure like it because you know, it's Stu.

And there is now a, sorry, go ahead. I think Cam has seen the movie. Maybe no. Well, I saw that. I saw the house on Kirby road.

I was going to ask, is it in the same universe? It's in the same universe. It is in the same universe. Even some of the same characters appear in scarecrow. So it's, it's sort of a continuation. Yeah.

Well, that one I saw in theaters, your gala opening in Roncesvalles. That was a good time with some of the old crew. Yeah, it's the same type of movie as that. Yeah. Stu, if we ever get back to a point where that could happen again, like a Stu Stone movie could have a premiere at a theater in Ronsey's, would I get an invite this time? Like I know we just recently became buds, but would I be on the list?

For sure. You would as well. You'd be surprised in my new, I have a new movie that I've been working on as we've been talking about over the last few weeks. You'll be quite surprised to see if you may or may not have made it into the special thanks. Oh my god. That would be the first time in my life I was

thanked anywhere, any line I know. You did provide Great Lakes Brewery brewskis to the movie so it's very possible that you were thanked for that. Alright, before we find out how Cam is holding up, because I'm dying to know Mr. Gordon, but I want to say,

since you mentioned Great Lakes, I just want to say that TVO, the home of Steve Paikin, great FOTM, Matt Gurney just wrote like a piece about craft breweries during COVID-19 pandemic. And his interview is with Troy

from Great Lakes. So I tweeted a link to it today. But if you're not drinking the Great Lakes during the pandemic, you're just doing it wrong, like in my humble opinion. I actually, it's really interesting because I'm not really a drinker as you're aware, but I had a little stockpile of Great Lakes from my various visits to the show.

And I'm happy to report that 11 or 12 weeks into this pandemic, I am out of beer. Well, that's great news. And again, if anybody wants to get same-day curbside pickup at the 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard location, you just go online, and then you can go to the parking lot, and they put it in your trunk, and it's all very safe and a great way to support a local craft brewery. And same with Palma Pasta. Like I really do, we all have to eat.

As far as I know, we're all still eating during this lockdown. So if you're going to eat, eat delicious, authentic Italian food from a family-run business like Palma Pasta. That's the way you do it. So I encourage you all. Now, Cam, how are you doing, buddy? How are things? We're in like the third month of this thing. Are you still holding up?

Yeah, it's all good. Obviously, Twitter and other tech companies have been in the news a lot for our various work-from-home announcements this week. Are you one of the ones that's going to be home for the rest of the year? Well, I mean, officially we've said, you know, until September and then, but I mean, our CEO, Jack Dorsey has also said, all staff also have the option to work from home permanently if they like. Some of you may have caught this week, Shopify, obviously the biggest tech company in Canada announced that they're going to a,

I think digital first model where, I mean, which is incredible because having spent some time in all their offices here in Toronto, a pretty spectacular work settings, including like a new office just off King street that they literally just opened earlier this year. What happens to all these like campuses?

That's, that's the, well, I was gonna say the million dollar question. I think it's almost the billion dollar question. I mean, yeah. I mean,

I was gonna say, I was gonna say TBTBT, TBD. Well, what happens? I mean, you know, what happens with the world?

Like no, no one knows where the pandemic ends up or what work looks like. So I just feel fortunate. I have a job where I can easily transition to work from home and see where the world ends up. I remember when SARS was in Toronto, I was from afar at that point. And I remember it being, it was really just kind of focused in Toronto. But then like it kind of, at what point did you get, like, was it like this then? Was where people like in a panic?

We didn't stop going to work. Like we all, we didn't wear any, I never wore a mask. I was working in Thornhill at the time. And it was almost like a bit of an epicenter there. And we didn't, all we did differently was we washed our hands more often. Like quite literally, it was very, very different from this. Well, I think we talked about this on, God, probably one of our first Pandemic Friday episodes. When the big SARS fest with the Rolling Stones happened at Downsview Park.

There was at the time like a WHO travel advisory, don't go to Toronto. And that concert happened with like 500,000. I don't think SARS was nearly as contagious as this at all. Correct. I mean, it was night and and day but then it was also more deadly i think if you contracted it it's i don't know i i do feel like it's hard in a lot of ways to draw parallels between the two because they're just they're different viruses and we're still no next to nothing about that this coronavirus sadly and it's interesting now i see as i type out

the name of this file and i see oh it's it's episode 651, because I remember the first Pandemic Friday was the nice round number 600. Like, so it's kind of amazing that, you know, over 50 episodes of Toronto Mike have been recorded in this shutdown. It just seems like it's only been a little while. At the same time, it's been a very, very long time. I don't know how many of these Pandemic Fridays episodes we've done now, but it's been quite a few. That's a good segue, Mike, into something I want to ask before we get underway.

Having already devoured your Brother Bill episode, which is quite the bombshell and a lot of real revelations for someone we all grew up listening to. Do you, do you have any kind of thoughts coming out of that one? I was, I was a little surprised to hear some of his comments about certain colleagues

in the industry. And I admire his sort of candor and his openness with that discussion. It was fantastic. Listen, I think, I think it's, I'll tell you is that all the, the tea,

sometimes a guest will come on and they'll spill the tea. And I already knew about that tea. Like I've already known there's a mess to clean up there. I knew all about it already with brother Bill. I knew none of it. So basically I just knew that he was a guy who would send in an FOTM, kick out the jam recording. I called him up for a Martin streak retrospective and he was great on the phone and contributed.

And I knew he listened to Toronto Mike. So I find when a guest is a Toronto Mike listener, like a Tyler Stewart, for example, I know they get it. And when they get it, it always makes for the best episodes. And he just came in and decided he'd be completely honest. And it sounded like for the first time ever in public,

he was honest about a whole whack of things. And as I normally do, I talk about, I wanted to talk about Bookie because it was one year ago yesterday that Bookie passed away. And I wanted to talk about Streak, of course, and other people that worked at like May Potts and Humble and Fred and these other people who worked with Brother Bill. So one of the names I wanted to talk about, of course, is FOTM Alan Cross. And I knew right away, you know, I'm looking at him in Zoom and I said, Alan Cross, and I could tell there was like three seconds of silence. And I said, oh, this is not what I expected,

which was sort of like a standard, like, oh, yeah, he's a great broadcaster than that. So I was, yeah, I was like yourself. I was really surprised at some of the things he revealed. Yeah, and I feel like one thing that I think maybe he was referencing, he talked about Carlos Benavidez. I think he might have been, he might have heard

the Sound Off podcast where Carlos guested recently that I think 1236 had mentioned or tweeted about. I feel like maybe he was, he's kind of cross-pollinating those two listens, but yeah. How could he confuse another podcast of Toronto of cross pollinating those two listens, but yeah. How could he confuse another podcast of Toronto Mike?

I know, I know, I know. That's not the first time a guest has told me about the great episode of Toronto Mike they listened to with somebody. And I have to say to them, I've never met, I've never talked to that person.

So it isn't the first time for sure. I'll just say a final comment about your last several weeks of episodes. One of the great things, and you've touched on this, Mike, is you're getting all these guests that, you know, for whatever reason couldn't make it down to your basement, whether it's Brother Bill or Jody Vance or Shad. I don't know if Shad was slated to come over, but, you know, all these people we might not have heard otherwise.

So it's been a real treat to sort of stuck at home to have all these great guests. Thank you. I think that's the lemonade I'm making out of these lemons, which is now I'm picking up these people for geographic reasons. Like the Craig Northys, you mentioned Jody Vance and Brother Jake and Brother Bill. They're all like BC people.

And Kish, that was one of the first ones where I'm like, you know, I always wanted Kish on the show and he lives in California. I'm like, now's the fucking Kish on the show and he lives in California. I'm like now's the fucking time. So yeah absolutely here. Stu can I hear your voice only because on my end your video. Oh you know what?

I thought your video was frozen but it's just your you're just like still. You're just like still water. And you're muted I think. I can see your lips moving but there's no noise coming out. Yeah. Oh, he's doing shtick. He's doing shtick here.

Talk to me, Stu. Marcel Marceau, come on. And I can see. Now you can hear me? Oh, now I can hear you, yes. I wasn't doing, what did you say, Marcel Marceau? Sure. Remember that chalk guy that walks along on Great Space Coaster?

Is that Simon? No, no, no, not Simon. He's like, he doesn't, he's like, like a guy comes in and erases it and then he falls. Yeah, like he'd turn. Yeah, yeah, that guy. What's that guy's name? That guy's a little prick.

I remember, all I remember from the Great Space Coaster is Gary Ganeau. Yeah, yeah, that guy. What's that guy's name? That guy's a little prick. All I remember from the Great Space Coaster is Gary Gnu. No news like Gary Gnu's. Gary Gnu, yeah, that's like I remember very little, but I think I was, because I have those few years on you guys, I think those were significant years for the Great Space Coaster.

No, what do you mean? The Great Space Coaster played all through the 80s. Yeah, but what year did it start? Like 1912. I don't know. You're so old, Mike. The Great Space Coaster was on in the 80s. I definitely watched it. Okay, but you will admit like a 10-year-old would be less likely maybe, or a 12-year-old

might not be tuning into like you know, Sesame Street or the Great Space Coaster. That depends on their maturity level. I still find Ernie and Bert to be hysterical. I tuning into Sesame Street or the Great Space Coast. That depends on their maturity level. I still find Ernie and Bert to be hysterical. I think that Sesame Street, the old ones, they have lots of merit and lots of good reason to watch. I think the Great Space Coast was a spinoff of Steamboat Willie. I was an electric company man myself.

Listen, I think we've talked about this before, but if you could like somehow fake sick and stay home from school, you get to watch the electric company and Price is Right. Right. I think at some point, if the pandemic goes long enough, and it could, we will literally be saying that about everything we talk about. I may have said this before because, you know, at some point we'll probably drain the extensive swamp here. So let's not make the listeners

wait any longer. What if now is the time, I think, even though this is Stu's topic, I usually have Cam explain it, because Cam's the smart one in this phone call. But take it away, Cam. And then, Stu, you can chime in and correct him

if he screws it up. I was going to say, when you say now is the time, someone we lost this year, Harley Race, when he was managing Big Van Vader, that would be his signal to Vader to end things up. Now's the time. And it was always very forced. It did not seem natural.

Did I ever mention I was at that Hulkamania thing in 87? Did I ever tell you that? Oh, really? Cam, did I ever mention I was at that Hulkamania thing in 87? Did I ever tell you that? Oh, really? And, Kim, did I ever mention to you that, speaking of Big Van Vader, he was responsible for the rib injury to Sting back in the day. Yeah, you heard that on Starphone back in 1992. Did you ever call Starphone, Mike?

All the time, yeah. What were you dialing in for argos news or joke there was there was a joke a joke of the day or something uh a stupid joke of the day there's a few things converging here though there's star phone which i did but there was also uh 10 50 had a thing where i could get uh henny's sports commentary of the day like i didn't listen to the show but i wanted to hear brian henderson's sports comment of the day and i, I didn't listen to the show, but I wanted to hear Brian Henderson's sports comment of the day, and I would call up the number and listen to it every day. I was on Starphone a lot.

And there's also the Talking Yellow pages, too, which is sort of the competitor. There's a whole bunch of them. Anyway, Mike, one final comment before I set this up. Yes. You mentioned the Humble report being sort of this prefab thing where you just get this from a service. I actually tweeted something yesterday

from RPM magazine from back in 1988, referenced something very similar about a kind of a joke of the day service with a very nascent computerized database from 1988, but it referenced something that I wonder was almost, was that the source material for the Humble Report? I have the deets for you right here, Cam. I'm glad somebody cares about this minutia. I always am glad to hear.

Oh, there is someone else who cares about these little things like that. So here's how it was. There was a guy named Mike Neighbors. And he was a radio guy. There was a guy named Mike Neighbors, and he was a radio guy. There was a guy named Mike Neighbors? I literally have a great friend named Mike Neighbors. But go ahead. How old is your Mike Neighbors?

Old enough to, not old enough to maybe even know the Great Space Coaster. Go ahead. So Mike, yeah, more of like howdy duty kind of a guy maybe but Mike Neighbors would was working at a radio station in the GTA and he would have this service and I think it was like 50 bucks a year or something something really small and he would every day he would fax over these like he'd take current events and spin jokes out of it and he'd fax it out to his subscribers

and Humble Howard Glassman was an early subscriber and humble would literally like this thing would come off the fax machine in the morning and humble would kind of take his red marker or whatever. And then these will be my daily humble report remarks or whatever. And that's, that's the history of the humble report. So for like a buck a week, he got his jokes.

Yeah. And here, just to bring it a week, he got his jokes. Yeah. And here, just to bring it full circle, because I like to do that, Mike Neighbors is now the program director for a station in Hamilton called Funny 820. And Mike Neighbors now picks up the Humble and Fred podcast that I produce and airs it as the morning show for Funny 820. Wow, so a little bit of revenge. Yeah, something like that. I want to also welcome, I don't know if you're aware of this, but the Toronto Mike Show has a big international flavor these days.

I've been getting hit up a lot on social media from listeners in Los Angeles and other places who are seeing me retweeted, and they're listening to the Toronto Mike show. Not from Toronto. These are just people listening to the show as a result of, you know, seeing that me and Cam are going to be on again. And so, you know, specifically this guy, Justin wrote me. Shout out to him. And anyone who's not listening in Toronto, welcome.

You are an honorary Torontonian or a Torononian as Liva Famco would say. Now, Stu, are these expats or are these actual born and bred Americans? Born and bred Americans. Wow. Because I would think this would not be the... I mean, maybe they only want to hear the Stu and Cam,

which doesn't really have it. Although even it is Toronto Central. Which makes sense, by the way, let's be honest. But, you know. Did you know, you know, forever we joked about the most frequent guest was Mark Weisblatt, because every single month he came in. But you guys are doing it weekly,

which means, if I do the math on this, depending on how long the pandemic goes, at some point, you guys will surpass, at some point, not yet, but at some point, you'll surpass Weisblatt as the most frequent guest in Toronto Mike's history. Well, hopefully that will ensure us a

free pass first ballot into the Toronto Mike Hall of Fame. Of course, we would probably want a joint entry, like maybe and then separate another time, like maybe it will be two-time Hall of Famers. Yeah, yeah. I can't separate. You're like Bert and Ernie. I can't separate you.

By the way, I have asked this before, but just to bang this point home, you are all subscribed at GarbageDay.com slash Toronto Mike, right? You've done that.

I'm getting the notifications every Tuesday that it's time to take out the trash. Oh, is that your day, Tuesdays? You get it Tuesday for Wednesday, right? Yeah, I'm not supposed to geotarget where I live.

That's me too. Who knows? That's me as well. My pickup day is Wednesday morning, and I get a text on Tuesday night. In fact, this recent Tuesday, I looked out, and I had seen that it was garbage day, as opposed to recycling day.

And then I was getting ready, and then I got my text, and it reminded me it was yard waste pickup. And it completely changed my evening because I had a whole whack of yard waste that had to go out from my beautiful big backyard. Not bragging or anything. So thank you, GarbageDay.com slash Toronto Mike.

Every listener right now, even those in California, should sign up. Because if they don't have the service, it'll come eventually. So sign up. It helps the show. It's interesting that you love having a reminder of something every week that you do every week anyway. It's very similar to me. I have a reminder like that.

What is it? Garbage Day? GarbageDay.com slash Toronto Mike. But it's Cam sending me a link to this Zoom every Friday, like 10 minutes late. Before Cam introduces the theme of today's Kick Out the Jams, on that note, every week you're late because you can't find the link. Meanwhile, it's the same link every single week. Well, I mean, so GarbageDay.com made a whole living off of that concept. So what's your point?

Get Linda to call you every Friday at like, Oh, she does. She does believe you mean she, she just rolls over and just gives you a nudge. I'm not one to kiss and tell, but is Linda in that part of yours? To quote Brian Ferry. And I met Linda's what? I won't say Linda's, but I met Linda's husband. Very nice gentleman.

Does he know about this salacious... No, we're just joking, by the way. It's not actually... It's all consensual. Yeah, this is all for the fun, for the entertainment of the show. No families are being destroyed by pandemic no not no and if there happens to be a linda of all trades movie written by her kids in the future

it's not my fault this almost sounds like the the talk track of uh heart all i want to do is make love to you it's basically this i like that linda of all trades reference because if people haven't seen jack of all trades on Netflix yet, then again, uh, you're doing the pandemic lockdown wrong. Go watch the Mike Wilner, uh,

starring vehicle produced in. Yeah. The Norm Wilner, uh, hasn't watched vehicle. All right, Cam. Hey,

Cam, did you cut your own hair? No, I just, it's all like tucked. It's like, no, it's just, it's all hair? No, it's all tucked. It's all tucked back.

Oh, you tricked me. Tell us, Cam, what's the theme of today's jam kicking? Yeah, so this episode is about Family First. And this was a great idea by Stu. These are family bands.

So these are bands that have family members. And to clarify, these are blood relatives. So these are, you know, sisters and brothers playing music together, brothers playing music, fathers and daughters, mothers and sons, entire families, family bands. This is the Family first pandemic friday countdown i wouldn't mind if uh maybe a ms fam cup perhaps but like if someone could do a scorecard not for like whether stew's gonna win because that's already a given but maybe we can do a check

mark for every one of these bands we list how many of them broke up and how many of them lasted so like out of 15 what's the percentage that are still going i don't know if leva uh has the bandwidth to do this she's multitasking okay you got us mystery man has got us we call him vp that's his secret handle okay well vp we got to get a scorecard here because i'm curious to know the analytics here and i know cam's a big analytics guy right like how many of 15 bands surveyed how many of them you know because families are getting on each other's nerves we're all in a pandemic we all know unless you're me that if you're staying with your family you're probably at each other's throats sometimes so imagine being in a band with your family yeah i i bet this will come up, but I feel like the ultimate example of the family

band is... Do you guys know the song Love is the Message? Love is the Message. It's like an early 70s song, sort of like a proto-disco song, but that band was MFSB. Mother,

Father, Sister, Brother from Philadelphia. They were kind of part of the Philly sound. That seems like that. I was going to put that on my list. I thought it was maybe, it wouldn't be that fun to riff off of, but perhaps the ultimate example of a family band whose name was literally Mother, Father,

Sister, Brother. Very good, yeah. That might be probably the biggest age gap between members, too. You probably can't think of another band where there's probably a 20 to 30 year separation between members. Maybe Chicago now. Judds. The Judds. Yeah.

The Judds. I was going to say, what they call the Guess Who now. Have you guys seen this? There's a spry 41-year-old fronting the Guess guest who looks kind of like the guy from Cheap Trick. Well, you know what FOTM is married to the guy who has the guest who, I don't know if it's the guy you're referencing, but Sass Jordan's husband. Oh, shit, that's right. Yeah, I remember it came up when Sass was down in the basement.

Oh, the good old days. Oh, she was remarkable. And I'm 95% sure that she never knew she was on video. Was she like, you know, doing some shady things? No, but she was... No, oh my God.

One of my favorite episodes of all time. And definitely a must hear if you haven't heard. So all you Californians who have shown up for the Cam and Stu show, you got to listen to sass jordan i know they're also hoping that taylor dane will be your guest at some point tell it to my heart oh she was big now just uh bang home a point you already made about family bands but like for example the white stripes are

uh ex-husband and wife they are ineleligible for this. Oh, I thought they were brother and sister. No. Well, they sort of pretended they were both at different times. No, they did pretend they were brother and sister, but they're not. They are exes. That's so weird. I know.

One of my other initial picks was, I thought this is brilliant, Sonic Youth covering the Carpenters, superstar. But then Sonic Youth, that's the husband and wife who are, speaking of broken up, Kim Gordon, my cousin. But then we fine-tuned it, and that would obviously be ineligible, but covering another family band, which who knows, maybe we'll come back to the Carpenters sometime later this episode. You guys are just spoiling everything. I know. We don't know what's coming, but it's going to be great. come back to the Carpenters sometime later this episode. You guys are just spoiling everything. We don't know what's coming, but it's going to be great.

And it's funny, you'll hear later how it all does tie into that comment that Cam made, because one of my jams is tied into that wonderful point that Cam just made. So, is there anything else you want to say about the topic before we kick out the first jam? Yeah, I just like, this goes along the days when I kick out the first jam yeah i just like i'm just like this is goes along the

days like when i found out like that wrestling might not be 100 on the up and up uh that the white stripes are brother and sister not brother and sister i'm today years old when i discovered that fact we smartened you up smart you up to the business that's wild it's amazing how popular jack white remained after that. People love him. He'll play solo at the Scotiabank Arena. It's unreal. He's unbelievably talented.

We're talking about the Michael Jordan of rock here. Come on. I wouldn't go that far, but he's definitely one of those guys that we've referenced others like the Prince types, the Billy Corgan types, the Beck types that play all the instruments and sort of take the lead.

He's one of those. Right. Very prolific, too. Very prolific. Absolutely. So, gentlemen and guests who are not identifying as gentlemen. Oh, really? A gender fluid?

Well, I don't know. Lieve Fumke probably doesn't. I don't think she identifies as a gentleman. But by the way, we're missing a gentleman. So let's just say hi to... Tim. I knew you were going to say Tim. We got to send Lassie to go find Timmy.

So Ian, if you're out there listening, I don't know, on a run or something, we miss you. But last time he showed up late, so maybe he will actually show up at some point. But are you, Stu and Cam, ready to kick out Cam's first jam? Hell yes. Wow, off to a roaring start. It happened to me, yeah Ooh Lonely and forgotten That's the way it's always been But you were always waiting Boy, how you changed me

Now I'm all I wanted to be, yeah I feel so good You and me forever That's all that I wanted to see Okay, let's get underway. We haven't already lost half of our listeners. So I often like to choose picks that also could

slot into past episodes too, much like Stu likes to have a thematic. My thematic is pick songs for current topics that might also fit with other topics. I think this would qualify. This was a long lost Canadian band called Two, which is spelled T-U-A-X-O-N-E-G-U.

Are you sure it's an accent, Tiki? Or maybe it's accent grave. I think it might be accent grave. The one that's like that way. Oh, a memsufit. Yeah. Not an accent cornflake, as I used to call it. Yeah.

So a little bit about the band 2. 2 is a Toronto duo, twin sisters. For the wrestling fans, no relation to the Million Dollar Man, Amanda and Cassandra DiBiase. They're really the DiBiases? Yeah. That's probably how you film them. So this song is called Stay With Me.

They're only top 10 single. This song reached number eight on the Canadian music charts. I vaguely remember it. Yeah, like this was a jam back on 680 CFDR. Mike, do you know, do you remember this one? No. What year was it? 1987. It was right in my wheelhouse.

I probably heard it and it just didn't stick with me. I don't recognize it. Yeah, like this would have been on 680, you know, filling that CanCon quote alongside, you know, Strange Advance, Love Becomes Electric, Boulevard, Far From Over that I think we kicked out a while ago. Sounds like a song that may have been featured in an episode of The Raccoons or something.

Yeah, yeah, like alongside Lisa Lougheed. You remember her, like all those sort of Canadian pop acts of the seventies. Um, yeah, like two kind of came in when, but I definitely remember this was on much music. The video two again had these two kind of sultry.

DBSC sisters almost look like a heart video or almost like a hard rock video I'm familiar with tattoo which also was like a right yeah the Russians but I don't think they were related or else that might be a little bit weird yeah yeah no that was they were they were

like Russian twins or something where they were definitely Russian yeah yeah by the were they not? They were definitely Russian, yeah. By the way, too, do we tell people that you spell too? Because I know people right now are going to probably want to go to Spotify or something and listen to the entire catalog of this fantastic duo. It is T-U. That's how you spell too. That's what he said, but I'm looking it up only because Cam called them sultry. Oh, I mean, I'm told by VP.

I haven't seen the video in probably about 25 years, if not longer. I'm told, quickly, breaking news. I'm told by our VP here that it is not on Spotify. Two are not on Spotify. Amazing. Well, maybe the video's on YouTube. By the way, this is the most efficient guy we've ever had in here so far. VP already

paying dividends. Within his first 20 minutes, he's already welcome to a permanent stay. He might be the first and so far only TMDS employee who is not yours truly. He's an important member of the family here. That's why he got the secret

Zoom URL, which you know I protect it with my life as you guys know so uh you mentioned raccoon so real quick i want to just do a really quick tangent here to say that that show was incredibly ahead of its time like i know we had that ecological moment in the 80s but i feel like now more than ever we need the raccoons like this is this it's now or never wasn't there talk of a reboot? Am I imagining that? There was. And you guys are realize you're speaking to Bentley.

The voice of Bentley Raccoon is on the Toronto Mike show right now. That's me. Whoa. Stop. What is it? Beep, beep, beep. Back up. Back up.

Are you serious? Because I didn't know that. You were a voice on the Raccoons? I was Bentley. I was Bentley Raccoon. I was on the Raccoons for three seasons. That's was Bentley raccoon. I was on the raccoons for three seasons. That's amazing.

That's fantastic. Cam, did you know that? He's your bud from high school. Did you know that? I don't know if I knew the raccoons. That was a, that was a,

I kept that one quiet. Yeah. Like seriously, if you check Stu's IMDB, like every, you know, every few months I end up on it

and there's, there's, I've known Stu for like 30 years and there's still stuff I see on there that. I've known Stu for 30 years, and there's still stuff I see on there that surprises me. His resume is like a lot of shit. It's impressive. I would book you on Humble and Fred

simply because you were on the Raccoons. That's enough for me. I don't have enough great Raccoon stories to tell, but I can say that the guy who... I played Bentley Raccoon. I took over the role because the kid who played Bentley Raccoon

went through puberty and his voice changed. That kid, his name is Noam Zilberman, still a respected guy in my world, but he was... If you remember a movie called The outside chance of Maximilian Glick, a Canadian movie. Yes.

He was Maximilian Glick. Wow. He was probably also on the Edison twins. Wow. Uh, I know he was on the Edison twins as well. So there you go. Uh,

I, he was the original Bentley for the first two seasons. And then I took over for the remaining seasons. Wow. And we ended up doing more episodes than he did because the show kept going. I remember the show very well. I always said the raccoons had like faucet noses. They were like sink faucets or whatever.

Okay, so that's an amazing fun fact and that's a great jam to kick us off. Are you ready, Stu, for me to kick out your first jam? Yeah, and I'm going to start us off. Are you ready, Stu, for me to kick out your first jam? Yeah, and you know, I'm going to start it out. I guess it's going to be tough for our scorekeeper to know whether two is still together. I assume they're not. But this next band most certainly is not together, and they might actually be the poster child band for bands that are not together. So let's let this one roll. And this is my first entry. I need to be myself I can't be no one else

I'm feeling super excited Give me ten of those Now that they said the title, I guess I can start speaking. But this is, of course, Oasis. The brothers Gallagher, not to be confused with other Gallaghers. Let's name Gallaghers. Liam and Noel Gallagher, the brother duo who made up Oasis, the second coming of the Beatles, as they once proclaimed. They are definitely no longer together, but I can give you a little history if you want to get there.

But there is a documentary that's pretty good that you can watch. I believe it's even called Supersonic. This is the song Supersonic that was their debut single that launched them into the stratosphere, as they say. Ironically, the original band that Oasis was, Noel Gallagher wasn't even in the band. Liam had his own band, and Noel sort of just like came along when the band was sort of uh you know sputtering along and joined the band and noel was the one that wrote all the songs including uh you know the band the famous story behind this song in the launch of their whole career is quite interesting because they were literally in the studio working on some other

song everybody went to go for a break to go eat some Chinese food. And Noel stayed back and he wrote this song. They came back from lunch. They recorded it all in one day. They've never touched the recording again. The recording you're playing right now on your show is the same mix and the same recording from that day. And the song ended up exploding, went to the number 11 on the Billboard chart, and is listed as number 25 on the 50 Greatest Indie Anthems Ever. They were an indie.

This song got them a record deal, obviously. But yeah, Oasis, I should say, not together anymore. Money, obviously, apparent drug use and other stuff sort of got in the way here. But here's an example where one brother is writing the songs, the other brother has the charisma and the front man sort of thing. And together they were great. Separately, they've never really found the same success.

I don't know. Wonderwall, obviously obviously was their worldwide smash that you know probably broke them you know when you have that level of success like wonderwall was a single that had a level of success achieved by very few songs in history um i don't know your what are your thoughts ken yeah like i i don't know like oasis seemed to be a very divisive band at the time because a lot of people just thought it was very simplistic music but

I feel like they're the band if they got back together people would be most excited for maybe just because I see a lot of this stuff on Twitter like people like Liam Gallagher recently tweeted out like, hey Noelagher recently tweeted out, like, hey, Noel, why don't we,

you know, throw together, like, a big fundraising concert once we're through all this pandemic shit for healthcare workers? I can't even imagine how big that would be if they got back together,

especially post-pandemic. Like, that would be, you know, the headline. Especially in England. Oh, like, people would be losing their minds um i know like when like like songs like wonderwall and don't look back in anger they seem like they've become these karaoke classics like some of the voices almost seems bigger than they were in the 90s

which is kind of hard to believe because they're massive then i don't know i feel like their music has aged pretty well because again again, it's pretty... There's not that much to it, which I mean as a compliment. You know, they're simple but, like, great songs. I love this song, Supersonic. I remember when CFNY used to play it. I actually remember hearing it for the first time on CFNY

and then going out and getting the album. Yeah, like, that first album is fantastic. Like, I think it's one of the best sort of you know kind of mainstream albums of the 90s i think it's awesome it's an interesting time too like that that era of music that we all like clamor for of a certain those of us who are of a certain age that are old enough for great space coaster would remember that era of music when the songs that were really popular on rock radio or K as you know, a one Oh 2.1, the edge,

you could pretty much pick up a guitar and play it. You know, there wasn't too many complexities in like green day and Nirvana and Oasis and all these kinds of popular bands. It's pretty power cordy stuff. So to Cam's point, a wonder wall, you can't go to a campfire anymore because of the pandemic.

But I've got to say, I really miss having all the British bands. Like, it's been so long since I've been into British. But you just had Blur, and then Oasis, and then Elastica, Stone Roses, Pulp. And these were pretty, again, mainstream bands that just kind of bubbled. I think some people think of Elastica or Pulp. Cooler Shaker.

Menswear, Shed 7. There was a million of these. Space Hog. Super Grass. No, Space Hog wasn't from Britain, right? No, but I just wanted to say Space Hog. Just one after another. Manic Street street preachers.

Yeah, like I miss those times. Like, I don't know, like maybe it's just showing the age, but seeing this newer generation of like... The Verve. The Verve. Yeah, or like Radiohead too. I mean, God, like... Bush!

Just so many. Where's the fucking Bush? I want to just second what Stu said about the documentary Supersonic, which is really informative and interesting. And yeah, no doubt. And I think at this point, you might be right. This might be the world's most desired reunification of a band. Might be Oasis.

I'm not even sure what band would be ahead of it. Maybe Guns N' Roses used to be in that top spot. unification of a band might be Oasis. Like, I'm not even sure what band would be ahead of it. Maybe Pink, maybe like Guns N' Roses used to be in that top spot. Yeah. And probably Pink Floyd at one point was probably on that list, but, you know. I would say Oasis is up there.

But, of course, I you know. Chicago, I'd love to see Peter Cetera rejoin Chicago. A classic line up of Chicago. It all comes to see Peter Cetera rejoin Chicago classic line up of Chicago it all comes back to Peter Cetera if two got back together that would be massive I gotta go dive into the two catalog

I feel I missed out you might break your neck I feel like that's a shallow pool what's interesting about Oasis before we move on to my first gem it does not seem at all to be anything to do with money. It really does seem to be personal on Noel's side, because as Noel has been very public about, he feels he was extensively bullied by his brother Liam. So it really is personal.

Liam. So it really is personal. Which would be a lot like Jaws 4. This time it's personal. Very much like that. Pretty much the exact same thing. Yeah, Jaws 3.

Is that the one where they used a barrel of oil to kill the shark? This time it's personal. Wasn't that Jaws 2? I thought it was maybe Jaws 4 because 3 was just 3d right are you thinking of tremors no no no jaws is definitely this time it's personal you know what's funny about tremors is that i can't remember if we had pressed record yet but we were talking about how steve is a good name like if someone's named steve you'd want i think it was before we pressed record. If you said, hey, there's my friend Steve, I'd want to chat with them. And then I brought

up the fact that Steve was the name of the father in Family Ties, Stephen Keaton. And of course... He's also the lead of Tremors, and Tremors now the new franchise taken over by Jamie Kennedy, who did Rollin' with Bob Saget. Really? Before my first jam,

the VP has a question for you. He says that Sean McIndoe, who we know better as Down Goes Brown, who I actually talked about with Hebsey this morning on Hebsey on Sports, and Down Goes Brown was a very early Toronto Mike guest, actually. On his podcast, he recently said he went to high school with the guy who played Ralphie. On his podcast, he recently said he went to high school with the guy who played Ralphie. So VP wants the fact.

Check this with Stu. Did you go to high school with a Sean McIndoe? I mean, Cam would probably know because Cam went to that high school. Yeah. Did Daniel Brown go to your high school? I don't know. Okay. Probably. I don't know. Probably. I don't know.

Maybe he misspoke and he went to high school with the guy who played Arnold. That's possible. Or maybe he means Ralphie from Happy Days. Ralph Malf? Right. Yeah, maybe he did. If he did, I would like to know.

That was like the voice of God right there. I just heard this big booming voice come out of nowhere, and that's the VP. I will say I'm amazed after so many years, the discovery of how many people went to our high school. Whether it's Down Goes Brown or Jim Watson, the mayor of Ottawa, or the band Flag Camp that I just discovered this week and I tweeted about it. Like it's, I don't know. He might have just been younger than me. He's probably younger than me. Thorley was a big school.

Like it churned out a lot of, a lot of people passed through there. Guys, again, I'm just going to drop it right here and just tell you, Brendan Shanahan, Cynthia Dale, Jennifer Dale and Drake Barahowski

Mike dropped that's my high school right there Cynthia Dale, star of Heavenly Bodies co-starring Stu Stone holy fuck I played her son in her aerobics dance hit in the 80s oh my god

okay, I gotta play my jam while I collect myself because these fun facts. Oh, Jemma Zambronia, Dominic Zambronia is a good friend of mine. Okay, so people who can't see what you're referring to. That must be in Hamilton.

That must be Hamilton. I was going to say, that's very Hamilton. The VP amongst the high school colleagues of the VP is Steve Pakin, who's a great FOTM. Kathleen Robertson, of course, from 90210 fame.

What was that name you said? Wait, was she Emily Valentine? Yes. No, she was Claire Arnold. Oh, Claire. Right, right, right. Who was Emily? Oh, she was blonde, Emily Valentine.

Okay. All right, we're going to... More 90210 later. I know that was for a brief period of time. That was actually Stu's – Of course, you know Stu Stone was on 90210. That's not true. That's true.

I'm not lying. Go ahead. No. In the Peach Pit After Dark when Barenaked Ladies were performing? No, I wasn't in that episode. I was in the episode when David had to go get a job, and he worked at Urban Outfitters, and I came into the store and got him fired. Really?

We can find this on YouTube. Okay, that's our homework, Cam. We're finding the Stu Stone clip of 90210. I'm going to have to verify. I'm not sure about that one. Go ahead, look it up. Stu and I also went to school with someone named David Silder. Yes, sweatpants.

Wow. Who would have thought David Silver would go on to marry Megan Fox? Yeah. Crazy. Okay, my jam. Let's go. Great song. Ooh, child, things are gonna get easier.

Ooh, child, things are gonna get brighter. I don't think I've heard this version before. Ooh, child, things are gonna get easier. I don't think I've heard this version before. Really? Maybe it just sounds different. I think it is the version. Yeah, this is... Okay, so we all know this song. This is actually one of my favorite songs of all time.

This version of it? To my ears, it is the version. I can't even tell it's different than the other version. But you have a better musical ear than I do. Okay, so maybe it is a different... Great song, though. Great song. So the Five Stair Steps recorded this jam, Ooh Child. And this is in the Five Stair Steps.

Brothers Clarence Burke Jr., Kenny Burke, Alo Burke, James Burke, Dennis Burke. Oh, yeah. Okay. Now it sounds right. Now it sounds right. Okay. Here, a bit more. Dennis Burton. Oh, yeah, okay.

Now it sounds right. Now it sounds right. Okay. Here, a bit more. So it's basically, this is a brother's band. So much like the Jackson 5. Go ahead. Yeah.

Oh, Lieve, you're not muted there. We're hearing the private conversation with Juan over there. I might have to mute her because she's discussing what she wants for lunch right now. Should we listen in? All right, I'll mute her until we figure it. Before she says something she'll regret here.

Leave it, you've been muted. Okay, so yeah, Five Steer Steps. It's a brother band, an American R&B band full of brothers and this is a tremendous song so I wanted to get it in the mix because I love the song. So, Cam, we're listening to The Five Stairsteps,

a brothers band. I would have never been able to name the band that sang this song for some reason. I just associated it with some bigger kind of Motown act or something like that. Yeah, like that. I never really thought The Five Stairsteps. I would assume this is like,

you know, the Temptations or the Tops or some other kind of band. But I don't recognize that name. Yeah, at all. But I know the song is legendary. Well, it's if you if you love movies, you've probably heard this jam

come up in some tremendous scenes of great movies like. Yeah, for sure. So it's the Boys in the Hood. Probably Forrest Gump. Boys in the Hood. Crooklyn. I remember it showed up

in Crooklyn. But Boys in the Hood, that's a great scene where this plays. And I love it. Everywhere else this song pops up, do you guys know

the artist Girl Talk who did all the mashups? Yeah, Greg Gillis. This is on one of his albums. I think the Night Ripper album. This song is probably like in the fourth or fifth track. You won't believe how often

Girl Talk gets played in this house because it's one, you know, Monica and I have very different musical tastes, but we converge on Girl Talk because we both love, especially there's three Girl Talk albums particularly that we love.

And if people haven't heard Girl Talk's mashups and stuff it's it's amazing yeah something for everyone funny story i was once at a comic con in san diego like the real comic con and uh there was a party like some after party that i would uh was you know brought in to be a part of let's just say, and the DJ didn't show up. So the guy asked me if I could beat DJ. And so I'm like, sure.

So I get up behind the decks and the decks are not actually plugged in. And I said, what do you, what do you want me to do here? He's like, Oh no, no, don't worry.

You just have to fake it and just talk in between. And he ended up just playing girl talk. So there's like all these people at this party that think that I'm absolutely like shredding these remixes. Oh my God, that's great. It's really just they're playing girl talk and I'm just like standing behind like a table that's not even plugged in.

That reminds me, remember the Brother Bill episode, Cam? I know you've heard it, where we talk about Chris oh chris shepherd playing those mixes and i used to record them and i loved him and then pirate radio right oh yeah the pre-fab mixes from uh new york straight from he had a guy in new york city who'd supply him with this stuff yes all he would do is press play very uh very humble report of him yeah that's what i said yeah uh and this all ties in nicely with that, you know, his thoughts on Alan Cross,

which I don't want to spoil because people really should. If you care anything about like CFNY in the 90s. Is Alan Cross just a guy that's like regurgitating like the Encyclopedia Britannica or something?

Is that what he's claiming? No. Well, he's suggesting something of that nature. Yeah. Wow. So it's like Alan doesn't, isn't really a fountain of knowledge. He just has the right books in front of him.

I'll quote Brother Bill. He wasn't there. That's my quote from Brother Bill. You have to listen to the episode to get the context. But Alan wasn't there. So you tune in. So it's really some other guy named like Brian Farberman and pretending to be Alan Cross.

But the Chris Shepard, uh, just kind of standing there and doing the talk, talking between really, uh, really, uh, it's like finding out like if I were,

this is not true because I know Morgan came in, but if I were to find out like the tooth fairy wasn't real, it would be that kind of feeling. It would be devastating to me, but, uh, sort of like it's a little less disappointing than the Milli Vanilli reveal, I suppose.

Right. I'm still getting over that one. R.A.P., Rob. Is it Rob? I always get the Fab and Rob mixed up. Fab, Fab, Rob. Now, we're kicking out a second jam for Cam Gordon. for Cam Gordon. I'm going to start talking because I think this song is pretty short.

It's like three minutes. This is sort of a, you can almost lump these guys in with Oasis in terms of warring brothers in a band. This is the Jesus and Mary chain, head on, fronted by William and Jim Reed, a pair of Scottish brothers. I thought I'd choose this one because I quite love this band, but really I love their one album, Psycho Candy, and it was kind of downhill from there.

This is from their third album, Automatic, and definitely one of those songs that I think this came out in like 1989. It was sort of in that bridge period between kind of 80s alternative and what became kind of the modern rock revolution uh i think jesus and mary chain were always very popular with kind of the indie kids and whatnot you'd hear this a bit on club 102 um this this band also had a very famous toronto uh concert incident where they were playing at the old RPM club that later became the government.

And there was actually a fracas where one of the brothers hit a member of the audience with a microphone stand infamously in 1987. And I don't think they, I don't think they played in Toronto for a few more years, but they've showed up periodically. I saw them a couple years ago at the Phoenix playing Psycho Candy its entirety I remember with my friend Joe and the tickets were like 70 dollars which at the time seemed astronomical but now I think is sort of par

for the course with concert tickets I don't think it's that unusual to pay that much for certain bands of a certain vintage and I don't know I's that unusual to pay that much for certain bands of a certain vintage. And I don't know. I mean, Jesus and Mary Chain, fairly popular. I wouldn't call them like a superstar act. One other Toronto piece of concert history I know about this band, they actually headlined a show at the Skydome, if you can believe it. Yeah, I actually remember that. Also, that song would be considered, and I might be using this term incorrectly my whole life,

but like a needle drop song where as soon as you drop the needle, the song starts. Like the words just start, which is, you know, I believe famously songs like Bon Jovi, You Give Love a Bad Name. Like as soon as you drop the needle, they're singing the chorus. Didn't Tom Petty say don't bore us, get to the chorus? That's right.

Into the great wide open, which took 11 minutes to get to the chorus. Yeah. I can go both ways on that. Sometimes I like making us wait, but when I'm doing these episodes, sometimes I like it when they just get right to it because you can kind of bring it down and talk about it.

But I can go both ways on that. He's in Mary Chain. I always, like, assume that they were some sort of, like, goth kind of act, but it doesn't sound like that at all. Well, I mean, the first album, Psycho Candy, was real, yeah, more, like, down-tempo kind of shoegazer. But this album was all like, yeah, it was almost

I don't want to say dance beats, but they fell in love with drum machines. It just had a weird history. I don't know if you remember, they had a hit called Sometimes Always with Hope Sandoval from God, what was it? Mazzy Star. That was kind of an acoustic

song. So every album was kind of different. This song was also famously covered by the Pixies on their, well, at the time their last album trumped them on. So I don't know. Kind of an interesting band showed up on Lollapalooza one year. Jesus and Mary Jane, they were kind of, I think, fairly well-known, but never like really quite broke through to like to a broader awareness on 40 radio at least. But were, I don't know, always quite popular in their own right.

Yeah, that sometimes always is a really... If you heard that right now, you'd be like, oh yeah, when that came on the radio, I was digging it. It's just, yeah, it's very popular. That wasn't heavy rotation at CFNY, but again, one of those times I don't think you hear much. Martin Streak was probably a Jesus and Mary Chain fan. Yeah, I think that's fair to say. I don't know. He went a little harder, I think. I don't want to speak on behalf

of Marty there, but I feel like he was more like a tool, nine-inch nails kind of sound. In the background, tool. Right, he needed it. Front 242. All right. Should I kick out the next

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This is Van Halen. I'm worried we lost Linda during that long instrumental there. I hope she's still with us. Yeah, man. I think she can't handle all the hot licks. Oh, man.

Honestly, though, was there a bigger band on the planet back in the uh you know early to mid mid 80s than dan halen i mean they had it all really really funny fun facts about this band i mean you could fun if there was a band that i thought you could do a whole episode on fun facts on this would be one those bands, even just the story of how they got together. First, let's talk about the family connection. Obviously, you have the brothers, Van Halen, you know, Eddie. You know Eddie Van Halen, right? Married to the girl from One Day at a Time.

Yeah, and then you got Alex Van Halen, drummer, older brother. Yeah, and then you got Alex Van Halen, drummer, older brother. And then now you even have Wolf Van Halen, Eddie's son in the band. But it's a really funny story. These guys were toiling along, Eddie and Alex, you know, trying to sort of make it under various different names. They finally, it's really funny this, the way that they got together.

They were renting equipment, like a PA system, sort of equipment for a gig from David Lee Roth. And in lieu of paying him, he joined the band. So they agreed, since they couldn't pay him, they would let him just joined the band. So, they agreed, since they couldn't pay him, they would let him just join the band.

Hell of a frontman, though. I mean, David Lee Roth was... I mean, he turned out to be one of the most charismatic frontmen in the history of hard rock, heavy metal. I don't know if you consider Van Halen heavy metal, but certainly some folks would. very athletic to what's yeah David Lee Roth a hell of a front man but you know you want to talk about innovators of guitar you know

classically trained pianist who took that and brought that to the guitar you never really saw anybody do what we just heard before. Guitar World calls that solo Eruption, which one of the only guitar solo tracks that has ever been played on radio. Number two on their all-time list. Do you want to know any guesses of what songs, what guitar riff would have topped that?

Smoke on the Water. YYZ by Rush. No. Deep Purple, Smoke on the Water. Stairway to Heaven led Zeppelin. Classical gas. They're giving Stairway to Heaven the only song ever to have a more recognized styling solo. I mean, you hear that, you know right away it's Eddie Van Halen.

And you can tell his influence on players like Slash who came after him. You know, Eddie obviously famously recorded the solo on Michael Jackson, beat it, and no-showed the video because he thought the song stunk. You have bands like Muse who use that tap style. It sort of got them noticed. But yeah, Van Halen, man. You can't say enough about these guys. Obviously, they are a band that got together, broke up, got together.

They had Sammy Hagar came along eventually. The guy from Xtreme, I believe. Gary Cherone showed up. Gary Cherone, that's correct. Almost asked Jordan. Did you know that the Van Halen brothers actually are not American? Born in Amsterdam. So in one of our previous categories, I could have played this.

Are they Dutch like Lieve Femke is Dutch? Oh, by the way, Lieve, you're muted, by the way, because you didn't mute yourself. Just so you know, I'm unmuting you on my end so you can mute yourself. Okay, go ahead, Stu. Also, you know, I'm not sure if this is their mother or their father, but... Oh, no, no, yeah, their father's name is Jan van Halen. Oh, no, Jan, yeah. Their father's name is Jan Van Halen, which might be pronounced Jan. Oh, no, Jan. It's Jan, because I knew a bunch of Dutch guys, and they're Jan.

Yeah. Anyway, they end up moving to Pasadena, California, and that's... You know, they're probably the most famous band, although that might change later on in my list but the most famous band uh of pasadena fame uh uh van halen i mean you talk if you've ever been to the sleepy quiet town of pasadena you would be pretty surprised to hear that a rocking band like van halen would have been there but yeah the very funny story they were renting a sound system from david lee roth they decided to save money by letting him join the band as the lead vocalist. And I remember.

It seems like a Seinfeld episode, like a plot for like George, like Kramer would like end up in a band. Like he accepts payment. Sort of like when the sentence to be a butler. Right. As far as this song, You Really Got Me. We've talked about this before, but like bands that had sort of struggles getting out of the gate famous they're they're they're a sibling band we'll do cover songs yeah and uh cover songs this is a cover song of a kinks you know the kinks this is their big hit and of course the kinks hated this song they thought it was garbage they still think it's

garbage um you know mr davies doesn't like this version he says it's laughable and i think van halen interestingly enough they weren't that thrilled that this was the song that it was going to be the single that led the way for them but i don't think they're regretting it now uh of course van halen one of the most famous uh well i think eddie van halen too famously really had no interest in like popular music too am I wrong like he was sort of into like modern classical and like all these different styles

but wasn't really a big fan of rock music like in general am I wrong I'm not calling you I think Stu's looking it up Stu's verifying this sort of vague claim. But I just want to point out.

Can't find it. Because we kind of buried this lead here, though, that the Kinks are another excellent example of a siblings, a family, what do we call it? Family first? What are we calling it? Family first. Family first.

The Kinks are a great example. Like, that's a great example. Definitely right up there with the William and Jim Reed and Noel and Liam Gallagher brother bands where they routinely would kick the shit out of each other. Right. No, excellent. So I like that Stu brought in that additional element. I'm always curious of what Stu thinks. Is Eddie Van Halen as good a guitarist as Joe Satriani? I think so, because Joe Satriani, while maybe he's more

inventive with his playing, obviously it's all about eyeballs, right? About earlobes. Eddie Van Halen wins in the earlobes competition because Satriani is sort of sitting in this niche guitar

world, whereas Eddie kind of crosses over and transcends just being a guitar yeah joe's in that pod or that hub with like uh yngwie mamstein yeah like jeff jeff back to some degree steve steve vi yeah uh what's the guy's name that uh like he's got like a spanish name who's like sells the guitar kit esteban sorry i think i say like rye cooter i don't know if you were to survey like a cert if you were to survey a bunch of people like who's the best guitar player of all time you know i bet you eddie van halen's name shows up more often than not uh you know there's other players obviously that deserve to be on there.

Satriani should be mentioned. Stevie Ray Vaughan might be somebody that you'd say. Obviously, you've got to give Chuck Berry some credit. It's ding-a-ling. Throw that in there. Keith Richards

not only ripped off some of those riffs, but he also... The bunny hop, wasn't that Chuck Berry's? Yeah, that was Chuck Berry. The duck walk, was it not? The duck walk. Right. Now, before we move on to my second jam, VP says that Eddie may or may not have said that Bruce Colburn was the best guitarist.

No, no, I believe that says Bruce Cockburn. No, it does. You said Colburn, and it's Cockburn. I always say Colburn, but it's actually Colburn. There's no L. I add the L because it's a Toronto mic. No, no, no. It says Cockburn on the message that was sent to you.

Phonetic Fridays here on the Toronto mic. I can't wait because earlier a band was mentioned who ties in nicely with this band. And here we go, my second jam. Ah, The Breeders. Or Cannonball. Speaking of high rotation on 102.1. Never to be heard from again.

Right. But I still love it. Like I was playing it, preparing for this episode, and I'm like, I still love it. What a unique song. Like it's, nothing sounds like this, really. Girl Talk also used this in that same mix. That's right.

There's a phenomenon I have where I'll hear a song that's in a Girl Talk mix, and I can't not hear the song that gets mashed with it. So I'll hear this song, and then I'll finish it with the Girl Talk part. But anyway. The problem with that Girl Talk mix is that it doesn't age well rap-wise. He uses so much Ludacris and them Fr rap-wise. He uses so much, like, Ludacris and, like, them franchise boys. He uses a lot of, like, Atlanta. Yeah, a lot of Ludacris.

You're right, you're right, you're right. And that, I mean, look, that's over a decade old now, that stuff. Like, it's just, yeah. Now, of course, the breeders are twin sisters, Kim and Kelly Deal. And we talked about, yeah, the, I can't remember what we talked about. The Pixies. Did we talk about the Pixies?

Yes. A little bit, because they covered the Jesus and Mary. That's it, that's it, that's it. Okay. So this is a song, like whenever I make a mix up of a bunch of different songs,

I still throw this in the mix, even though, you know, it's pretty old right now. I loved it when it was fresh and new, and it was one of my favorite alt-rock songs of the era. And they're a great example of a sibling band, but you're right, I can't name a second Breeders song. I don't know if you guys can.

Three total chords in the song. Three, I've counted. That's all you need. And Cam Gordon and I famously I believe he was there, famously saw them at Lollapalooza. I was not there. I've seen the Breeders a couple

times, but like more in recent years. I have a question. When you are a band like this where the general population knows one song, right? Do you keep that for your encore? Like where in the...

Some bands will just open with that song just to like get it out of the way. Yeah. I saw them... You know the band Teenage Head? Of course. Like the Hamilton, like their big hit, Let's Shake.

I saw them a bunch of times. Sometimes they would play it twice, if you could believe it. I think they only knew like 12 songs or something. I think Tag Team does that. If you go see Tag Team in concert, they just keep playing. You know,

that's a very controversial statement. Yeah, let's not unopen that. Open that Pandora's box again. You know, Steve Rowland and DC, the Brain Supreme, I produce, aka The Undertaker, leave those guys out of this. They've been through enough with us.

They saw success that the Breeders never did. That's provocative. I don't know if that's true. Better 90s band, tag team or the Breeders. Well, I think the Breeders is probably going to get more votes, but, you know, listen, as far as cultural impact,

whoop, there it is. It's a much bigger song than Cannonball, even though I love Cannonball. How about this? Is there any rock fan or fan of, like, you know, guitar-based music listening to us right now who does not know that jam we just played? Like that's the, I would just argue that. It's like, it's listen, you played that song within one second.

I knew what song it was. It's like, that's how, that's how instilled in my brain it is. So the same would be true. It's not like, you know, when like Cam plays a song and it takes like 45 minutes to figure out what brain it is. So the same would be true. It's not like, you know when Cam plays a song and it takes like 45 minutes to figure out what song it is. I still don't know his first jam, but yeah.

Two. The DiBiase sisters. Right. So again, though, two, that was twin sisters, right? I just played a band of twin sisters, so we've had a couple of... Yeah, it'll be interesting to see at the end of this how many twins were in the mix there.

But anything more you want to say? Anyone want to say about the breeders before I kick out Stu's third jam? I wonder, maybe VP could look this up, but did they actually have kids? Did they end up breeding? He's on it. I love it. By the way, need this vp on all of our pandemic

just to be like i agree and i'm useful this is useful bringing way more to the table than anything leave fm has ever done or ian or ian who uh well you know ian though oh he hosts a file though yeah so ian's helping in other ways. Okay. So Ian and VP have something in common in that they're both... They're both incredibly handsome. They're both handsome.

And they're both part of this TMDS family of sorts. Okay. So let's... Speaking of family... Well, if you guys ever start a band, you could make this list. Precisely. So here's a great family band.

This is Cam... Cam Gordon's... Pardon me. I think I said Stu earlier. But this list precisely so here's a great family band uh this is uh cam cam gordon's pardon me i think i said stew earlier but this is actually cam gordon's third jam oh yeah i'm really happy you did this i'm really happy you did this. I'm really happy you did this. This is a good, like, graduation song. I'm actually surprised Cam kicked this out. Yeah. It's not a Cam jam. I will never find another lover sweeter than you, sweeter than you.

I mean, I got to be honest with you. I fucking love this song. Sweeter than you. Precious this song. Speaking of family, he just rattled off everyone in his family. But all I hear when I listen to the song, all I hear now is Mother Lover by Lonely Island. That's all I hear. KC and JoJo. Another song

from the Girl Talk album. Yeah. I think we've sort of found the Toronto Mike Girl Talk fulcrum here today. This is KC and JoJo, the song All My Life, a graduation dance classic uh casey and jojo a pair of brothers also famously in jodakai with another pair of brothers wait um

you didn't just say that jodacy sorry joda i mean probably the worst thing you've done in your life yeah yeah i'm gonna give that to you that you did that as a joke okay okay that's gonna be the cold open like chai chai rodriguez yeah uh jodeci jodeci if you were to ask like real r&b fans like jodeci is like the real biggest R&B act of all time, not Boyz II Men or any of these other sort of radio raps. Or Usher. Jodeci is, like, the down-and-dirty R&B act of the 90s. And Casey and JoJo, the brothers. Go ahead, Kim.

Yeah, I'm, like, gun-shy now. Like, I'm kind of worried about talking more about Jodeci. I don't know. Like, I feel... I don't know. I feel... I don't know. I'm sort of thrown because I botched that so I feel bad. I feel like it's problematic. I don't know.

Take back to all my life. I don't know. I love that this song it's almost a timeless... I feel like it's one of those songs where it came out, it fell on the list. Would you say that's fair? I mean, it's one of those songs right away, just captured a nation's heart. Much like Wonderwall.

This is one of those songs that just became an absolute anthem. And you know what? I wonder if fans of Jodakai think that this is a sellout jam because they're like down and dirty sound. Obviously, this is way more like radio-friendly

kind of ballad. But just a huge song. They tried to recreate the magic several times after this with sort of sound-alikes of this song. I believe one that was like,

you know, I'm crazy, crazy, crazy just thinking about you baby which is similar to this uh but didn't quite have the impact yeah like i think this was far and away their their their moment uh needless to say i'm gonna just take a peek at their discography to even see what their next biggest charting would have. Which was from some soundtrack. Yeah. Tell Me It's Real.

Tell Me It's Real. That's kind of a thing. You're talking about the Haley brothers, right? Casey and JoJo Haley? That's right, yeah. Or it says Cedric and Joel. Oh, that's their real names? Yeah.

So JoJo is actually Joel and Casey is really Cedric? I think Cedric was Casey and Joel was JoJo. This is confusing. I wonder if Cedric was called Casey because maybe his... I don't know. That's weird. Yeah, Cedric was Casey, Joel was JoJo. But yeah, the Haley brothers out of North Carolina. Yeah, Cedric was Casey, Joel was Jojo,

but yeah, the Haley brothers out of North Carolina. And the other brothers in Jodeci were the great brothers. I can name them. Devante Swing and Dalvin. Very good. Stu, like going deep on the Jodakai. Stu, you know Cam better than I do. Are you surprised to hear Cam kick out a KC and JoJo song? No, because ever since early on in the pandemic, nothing surprises me.

We've learned his affinity for Euro trash dance, and now we're getting to see he's got a soft side. Come see the softer side of Sears. This season, Cam is, you know. It just doesn't seem obscure enough for Cam. I would have never really known Cam to listen to this song back in the day, but is, you know. It just doesn't seem obscure enough for Cam. I would have never really known Cam to listen to this song back in the day, but maybe he secretly did. Well, I mean,

I'm also trying to pick tracks that we can riff off of well. It's sort of a mix of, you know, a few songs we haven't heard in a while, such as Two, Stay With Me. You guys perhaps have never heard it. What I would call sort of my bread and butter more like the cool

indie rock songs is the Jesus and Mary chain and then do a hard pivot to Casey and JoJo so I'm trying to keep you guys on your toes here you know we're all feeling this a lot and as somebody who likes to tickle the ivories from now every now and then I would say like this Casey

and JoJo song is probably up there with like Richard Marks whatever it takes I'll be right there waiting as far as like piano songs of the 90s that you could like learn yeah wow yeah you know Richard Marks rock set it must have been love but it's over now

wow I would say you were going to jinx them but that already happened yeah she's passed oh yeah did we jinx anyone last week? I'm trying to remember. We decided we didn't kill Jerry Stiller. That was not us. We talked about him last week, but nobody,

I don't think anybody this past week. I'm trying to think who died in the last week. I'll find out next week. Oh shit, yeah. That was awful. Yeah awful yeah what happened tell me his son him and his son went to the beach they went into the ocean and there was an undertow the lifeguards came in to save him he redirected them to save his son they did save the son they went back for him and he didn't make it that's terrible that's terrible uh but we did not

mention him in the previous week's episode. So that's not on us. But that is tragic. That's tragic. I will find out everyone who died because next week is Mark Weisblot on Toronto Mic'd. And we're going to do the Ridley Funeral Home Memorial. So stay tuned for that. Hopefully Mark remembers Shad Gaspard. Rest in peace.

I hope so. I hope he's listening right now. I'm sure Shad is probably smiling wherever he is listening to that Casey and Jojo song because he probably was a fan of that song as well. This is a moment, I'm just tearing down the wall. That sentiment

is so sweet and beautiful to me. I wish I believed that were true. I just want to throw it out there to the universe. I wish that were true. That would be really sweet if he was on a cloud somewhere now and he heard us playing Casey and Jojo and he, he smiled. Like, I just think that's a beautiful sentiment, but that's, uh, actually, this is a nice segue to, uh, Stu's ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, There are stars above you. You never need to doubt it. I'll make you so sure about it.

God only knows what I'd be without you. Beautiful. I figured that we owed these guys some redemption. After playing Kokomo on the show a few weeks ago, or maybe it was, no, I guess it was a few weeks ago now, this is obviously, in my opinion, the best

song that they've ever done. But this is the Beach Boys, obviously. God only knows. Young fans might think, oh, isn't there like a bunch of love brothers in that band? No, there isn't. Just one. of Love Brothers in that band? No, there isn't. Just one. The family members in this band, Brian, Dennis, and Carl, the Wilsons. The Wilsons, along with their cousin, Mike Love.

And potentially inviting their cousin into the band may have been their downfall because the band, obviously, another one of these meltdown bands that has not been together in years, but you wouldn't know it because Mike Love, the cousin, still tours as the Beach Boys with maybe John Stamos on drums. On bongos. It's really the Wilson Brothers band. And it's funny that their cousin, Mike, who sort of positioned himself as a front man, but Mike sort of was, Mike and Brian Wilson famously butted heads creatively because, you know,

Mike Love was more of the surf rock, little old lady from Pasadena surfing USA type of guy, and that's the Pasadena connection that I referred to earlier. But, you know, whereas Brian Wilson really wanted to make more complex stuff. A lot of resentment between the band over the success of this song that we're listening to, which was from an album, Pet Sounds, which had a lot of resentment from the band,

where Brian Wilson famously sort of separated himself from his cousin and sort of separated himself from his cousin and sort of locked himself in the studio and brought in, quote, real musicians to sort of make the Pet Sounds record, which a lot of people consider to be one of the greatest records of all time. That's subjective. I think it's got a lot of folklore behind it. But one of the most influential albums of all time.

For sure. And there's no Sgt. Pepper without a Pet Sounds. Oh, I mean, Pet Sounds by far is just like a work of absolute art. And, you know, Rolling Stone magazine has this as number

25 in the 500 greatest songs of all time. Pitchfork magazine or Pitchfork media, I should say, calls this the greatest song of the sixties. Now, if you think about that, Pitchfork is a very,

they're on the forefront of sort of like pop culture and opinion and op-ed type stuff. And in the sixties, it was a pretty groundbreaking fucking decade for music. Yeah, there's a lot of choice there. The 50s rock and roll, like the bridge. We talked about LL Cool J being the bridge between old school rap and modern rap. The 60s was a bridge between 50s rock and roll and 70s whatever happened there. And so many pivotal acts like the Beatles, the Stones, everybody came in the 60s.

And for this to be named as the greatest song of the 60s is pretty high honor. It's incredible because, Stu, you could make a good argument that it's not even the greatest Beach Boys song of the 60s. You could put forward a tremendous argument that Good Vibrations is the best single of the decade. You could do that. And I'm here to say actually god only knows is my favorite beach boy song i think it's absolutely gorgeous and those harmonies it's perfect and very controversial first time if you've ever i was one of the first songs on the chart that had the word god in it uh which was like a big deal at the time imagine that um what's

that girl's name that had um what if god was one of us? Joan Osborne? Joan Osborne would be blushing. Like a stranger on the bus just trying to find his way home, man. But if you're a fan, you know, taking it back to those great space coaster kids, if you're a 90s kid, maybe you remember the movie Boogie Nights. This song famously, you know, closes the film Boogie Nights. That stays with me. You mentioned earlier, you played Ooh Child is in a lot of movies,

Boys in the Hood. But to me, I hear this song, I think immediately of Boogie Nights. I feel like this is one of those songs that's also been covered a lot. And I feel like anything from Pet Sounds, it's so precise and so specific and so iconic i feel like it's one of those albums people just should give it a rest like not not touch it actually i agree with you and a couple more just little quick tidbits yeah you could do a whole we could do a whole yeah i want to hear them uh but you could do we could go do two hours right now on the beach boys i think it just fun facts and how it all ties together. But go ahead, Stu.

Well, I'll just rattle off some important kind of facts. And, you know, unlike Alan Cross, I'm here. I'm telling you. But you weren't there. You weren't there in the 60s. Right. I'm here. Well, I will say this, though. The Beach Boys was one of the only american acts to sort of fend off the british invasion of the 60s where you had the beatles and the stones the beach boys were the american act that sort of kept kept up with those guys uh and of course the rock and roll hall of

fame uh lists this song god only knows as uh one of the uh most influential songs of all time. Without a doubt. And there's that famous story of the Beatles hanging with the Beach Boys in California and going... Charles Manson. Well, that's a whole other... It's Carl, right? Was that Carl or Dennis? I get this.

I hate to say when you mention also the third brother, Dennis Wilson, like, fuck. He passed away because he drowned, much like the aforementioned I hate to say when you mentioned also the third brother, Dennis Wilson, like, fuck. Oh, yeah. Like, he passed away because he drowned, much like the aforementioned Bad Gaspar. Like, it's just brutal. Right.

I was going to say a shitty cover from Pet Sins. I wouldn't say shitty, but I'd say questionable. Frank Black of the aforementioned Pixies covered Hang On To Your Ego. What was the other name for that song? Like I know there's an answer. I think he covered the Hang On To Your Ego version on his first solo album and gave it sort of a alternative rock makeover with, I would say, questionable results. I don't think anyone should touch any of the songs from this album.

Yeah, it's an important album and it's great. And yeah, it's funny how there's no Wilsons. wilson's to be found on kokomo so that's all you need to know about that and uh just uh because we talked about 60s american bands when the british invasion was going on just a shout out to what i think is like the perennial number two sometimes overlooked band of the late 60s uh credence clearwater revival who who were an American family act I don't know if you guys saw on Twitter this week, there seemed to be one of these random trending topics, what is the greatest American

rock band of all time and when you really take a step back I mean it's sort of Beach Boys and CCR but yeah, people say the Eagles no, I'm just saying people are saying Nirvana, Pearl Jam, a real generational. Sure.

Some people are saying REM, too. Like, there's no real obvious answer to that question, surprisingly. Right. Like, there's no default, like, oh, the Beatles or Stones or whatever. It really is a big generational divide if you try to break it down. Yeah. I'm trying to think like who would be like who is uh america's like beetles and stones the beach boys i don't know though like the beach boys sound you know that surf rock thing is hit and miss with some people yeah but the yes but the beetles had their version of that in their first half like everybody likes the beetles

not everybody's obsessed with the beach so some people people are saying, is it the Foo Fighters? I don't know if that's why people start talking. Is the Foo Fighters the greatest American rock band of all time? No, they're like Aerosmith for grunge or whatever. I don't think. No, no. I wouldn't say that. But yeah, that's very interesting.

Because now you're right, generational too. Because I would be saying, yeah, it's Pearl Jam. But of course, Pearl Jam's a 90s phenomenon. So my third jam is a little bit off the beaten path here. I took a different course, but it'll be fun to chat about it. And here, here it goes. Norske Råd If you ask any girl from the parish around What pleases her most from her head to her toes she'll say i'm not sure that it's business of yours but i do like to waltz with the log driver for he goes

that's where the log driver learns to step lightly it's down and down white water the log driver's waltz pleases girls completely. So obviously this is from the National Film Board video. That's why you had all the sloshing of the log drivers. But this is the log driver's waltz. And it is, of course, Kate and Anna McGregor. And they are sisters. Of course.

I feel like we all saw, we're in public school, and they'd wheel in the TV on the weird cart thing, or even like a reel-to-reel thing, and they would play, you know, such fare as Lifetime's Nine, and perhaps this would be sort of the intro to that or the hockey sweater,

you know, all the sort of National Film Board classics. But this is a great choice. I feel like sort of an underappreciated Canadian,

I guess we'll just call them a group. I mean, act. I know one of the sisters is no longer with us. Did this chart? I'm not about the charts.

I'm about the feeling the song gives me. I'm just curious. Was this ever played on the radio? Is this the first kind of show that it's technically ever been played on? Tyler's on the case. This is good. He's doing a fact. He's VP.

He's VP. VP, sorry. VP. VP is going to do a little homework. Although last time we gave him an assignment, he never got back to us, right? Because he was supposed to. We gave him an assignment like 20 minutes ago

and we're still waiting for a reply. But come on, get on it, VP. No, kids. Ironically, we just found out the breeders didn't actually breed. So that's, you know, that's very much in tune with the other things we've learned about Chris Shepard and others. Yeah.

The breeders, just a name, just a gimmick. Just a gimmick. Just to follow up for a second, I know we were just talking, I was just kind of looking up greatest American rock bands

of all time and I found, I'm just sort of serving a bunch of different sites and you see the Beach Boys name come up a lot. You'd be surprised some of the other acts that come up, Tom Petty in the Heartbreakers mentioned a lot,

which I, I don't know that I would do that. REM I've seen a few times here, Nirvana, the Velvet Underground getting a lot of love, Metallica, Guns N' Roses. So there's a lot of varying sort of.

Yeah, there's definitely Beach Boys show up on most of the places at least in top fives talking heads i see but yeah you the beach boys probably are the answer they've had 80 the beach boys have 80 songs that have charted including kokomo probably not a lot of bands that can say that. Where's Tag Team in those rankings? Are they in the mix? You know, Tag Team, if we were talking about influential songs that derive from strip clubs,

the Beach Boys would have zero. And Tag Team would have 100% more. Jodakai would be in there too. And yeah, I'm trying to think. Yeah, I'm just thinking it's almost like you have to go by decades. Like, in the 60s, you'd say Beach Boys and maybe CCR at the end of the 60s. Then in the 70s, the Eagles, for sure. I'd say that it was probably, like, believe it or not, probably the biggest American band on the planet in the 70s was probably the Eagles.

It's got to be the Eagles. I feel like some, you you know you'll get that section that will say like the Grateful Dead too yeah Grateful Dead I see on a few lists the McGarigal sisters by the way I just played only had one top 40 hit and it was Dancer

with Bruised Knees that's the name of the song I don't know this song off by the title. I'd have to hear it. And it went to number 35 in 1977. Can I say a couple of things about the McGarigal sisters? Please. I will say their debut album is criminally underrated.

I just peeked it on Spotify. It came in 1975, just self-tell, it's incredible. Like some real heartbreaking songs because I think she had already broken up with Loudon Wainwright at that time. So a lot of sort of divorce,

breakup songs. I don't mean to talk over you, Cam. This is very rude. I am the host. I have to do so. Just to say that that's another example of a family band, if you will,

are the Rufus and Martha Wainwright. Well, that was going to be my second point. A great sort of family first YouTube video would be, I think this was at the Glastonbury Festival or somewhere. There's a great video of Rufus Wainwright at a piano at the Glastonbury Festival with his sister, Martha Wainwright. And they're doing a cover of Hallelujah, which I can't

say that word, but the Leonard Cohen song at Glastonbury. This was in 2005. It's like an incredible live version of I guess one of the more famous covers of that song. But again, Rufus Wainwright looked like he just got out of bed as in, almost looked like wearing a robe that he would have stolen from

a hotel, but on stage. And of course, I'm pretty sure Rufus's version of, uh, hallelujah is on the Shrek soundtrack. I believe that is accurate. Yes, but not in the movie.

Like I believe the movie speaking of velvet, it was, was, uh, John Cale. Are you serious? Yeah, that's my belief. Wow. That's my belief. Cale. Are you serious? Yeah, that's my belief.

I never saw it, so wow. That's my belief. So I think in the movie you get John Cale, and on the soundtrack you get Rufus Wainwright for Hallelujah. So Kids Everywhere got introduced to Hallelujah by Shrek. All right. Who would have thought? Who would have thought?

Okay, here's a song I would expect Cam to be kicking out here. So let's kick out another Cam Jam. We have to do it running But you do everything that they ask you to Cause you don't mind seeing yourself in a picture As long as you look far away As long as you look removed Showered and blue blazing Fill yourself with quarters Showered and blue blazing Fill yourself with quarters Showered and blue blazing

Fill yourself with quarters You get mistaken for strangers by your own friends When you're passing at night Okay, so I'm going to start talking. This is The National, the song Mistaken for Strangers from the album Boxer. Another band much like Jodeci with a

pair of brother combos in there you have the Dessner brothers and then you have the Devendorf brothers The National, like one of those bands that is wildly popular but it's a bit unclear, did they really have hits? Do you guys know The National or know these songs? It's so hard like one of those bands that is wildly popular but it's a bit unclear did they really have hits

like do you guys know the national know these songs like it's so hard to tell in the modern day like what are hits and what aren't especially for rock bands like i feel like this this is sort of a famous band and famous songs it's a famous album like every time you talk about the national the boxer right this is the album it's critically critically acclaimed must listen to material that the average Joe doesn't know a song from yeah well I feel like

I think it was this album boxer that there was was this like fake yeah the lead song fake are you there camp stew are you there stew stone where oh my internet's down snap okay so the recording is gonna be fine but I'm

gonna just fill in this time here only because the song will have to be interrupted because I'm playing a song right now. So the internet just dropped. And that usually means the four-year-old or the six-year-old has inadvertently unplugged the router. This is something I need to fix, like put a fence around it or something. Because it happened during my Brother Bill conversation. Now, we're not live streaming. The Brother Bill was live on video streaming, which meant it was rather inconvenient because, you know, you can't video stream when you don't have internet. But the way I record is,

I bring in my guests like Stu and Cam via Zoom, but I'm not recording via the internet. I'm recording locally. So the music I'm playing, which you're listening to right now, the recording of this podcast, my microphone, all of that does not require the internet. But Cam and Stu, to hear this music in real time and to converse with me absolutely requires a internet connection. So what I'll do as a song disappears, now what I'll do is I will take an effort to make an effort to bring the internet back and then bring back Cam and Stu and then I'll get Cam to talk about The National.

Welcome back, guys. Real sorry, that's on me for the national. Welcome back guys. Real sorry. That's on me for the second episode in a row. Cam, talk to us about the national. We'll finish it. Yeah. Any thoughts you had in motion there about the national?

Yeah. I mean, just to summarize, I mean, you know, you, you talk about sort of the greatest American rock bands of all time. I'm not saying the national is the greatest American rock band, but I mean,

sort of certainly one of the few American rock bands of the 20th century that would have even like risen to like a kind of a stadium level. I mean, there are few and far between. And yeah, like VP had a great point, or maybe Stu compared it to Wilco. I think that's a great comparison. Just, you know, album after album, just kind of like a very strong, steady fan base.

The albums are generally good to great. Yeah. Wilco is a good band. It's always around. I don't know. Like one of those bands you almost just take for granted because they're kind of steady. And one day they'll break up

and they'll be like, oh shit, I should have appreciated them more while they're around, maybe. I do need to make a correction, but I don't know if I'm 100% right about this correction, but somebody has written me that was listening to last week's show and our conversation about

LL Cool J and all that stuff and I mentioned Run DMC and Def Jam Records from what I'm being told and this would be a pretty bizarre fun fact Run DMC was never actually signed to Def Jam Records Is that true?

Run DMC in the movie Crushed Groove which is about the launch of Def Jam Records, they fictionally were part of Def Jam Records in that movie. But in real life, they were never signed to Def Jam. I'm wondering if BP maybe can look at Linda that because I'm baffled. That's a really like a Mandela effect kind of thing because I swear, I think of Run DMC, I think of Def Jam Records, but I guess they were never signed there. I just saw the Beastie Boys doc that they put for Apple that was put together.

Yeah. And I just, I still remember even in that doc, it was Run DMC and then LL Cool J. And then they, well, just cause like DMs, obviously Russell Simmons brother is in Run DMC.

So that's the connection there. Hmm. Well, we got to find out. I know Public Enemy, of course, is on Def Jam. Anyway, we'll get a ruling from VP. But here is your fourth jam, Stu Stone. Stone.

I'm going to wait until I can figure out who this is. I love you. But what does it mean if I ain't got you? If I ain't got you, baby You don't know what it's like This is the Bee Gees, right? They're very, very good. Yes. You know, before they were famously known as the kings of disco, the Bee Gees were actually quite a formidable rock and roll outfit in the 60s, cranking out songs like this classic, To Love Somebody.

We're talking about the Gibb brothers, Barry and Robin Gibb. Or if you will, the Brothers Gibb, which is what Bee Gees stands for. Exactly, the Brothers Gibb, the Bee what BG stands for. Exactly. The Brothers Gibb. The BGs. That's correct. And then, of course, later on, their little brother launched a little solo career of his own as well.

I believe Rob, what was his name? Andy Gibb. But interesting song right here. Just some fun facts, first of all, about the BGs. They've sold over 120 million records worldwide they are one of the world's best selling artists of all time a lot of people consider them to be the biggest Australian outfit ever but fun fact actually born in England uh But the Bee Gees, this particular song, very interesting. Oh, sorry, Maurice Gibb also.

I left him out. We've got Barry Robin and Maurice Gibb. There's three of the brothers. Right. And so this song is very interesting because apparently Otis Redding saw the Bee Gees performing live and fell in love with them so much that he went backstage and asked them to write a song for him. Legend has it, Barry Gibb wrote this song for Otis Redding and Otis Redding passed away before he was ever able to record it. Wow.

In more recent interviews, some of the other brothers have weighed in and claimed that this song was actually written about his love for the band's manager at the time. And some may question whether that's a love, you know, like a romantic love or a family type of love. But there's speculation either way. But a love letter to the band's manager apparently is the real origin of this song. Either way, the song has been covered by rock legends. Of course, most people probably know maybe Janis Joplin's version of this song. In this country, I'd argue the biggest cover might be Blue Rodeo. I feel like we'd listen to that in our Canadian covers of non...

Maybe you did, yeah. Nina Simone covered it, Roberta Flack, Michael Bolton, even Billy Corgan, who we mentioned a few times, Rod Stewart, Michael Bublé, Hank Williams. The list goes on of people who covered this song. You said Michael Bolton, right? I did, yes. I celebrate the man's entire catalog.

Well, there you go. The Bee Gees are actually, according to the analytics, I know Cam's a big numbers guy, Bee Gees are the third most successful band in Billboard chart history. Who are the two bands ahead of them? Can I go? Yes. Oh, bands.

The Eagles. No. The Beatles. The Beatles The Beatles yes Beatles number one And number two Is going to shock you The Beach Boys The Supremes

Wow That does shock me Okay Wow Very good That's a bit of a shocker right there Bit of a shocker A tie in to my last entry

Is you know I like to sort of Tell a story Tell a story with my entries, but inducted into them. Can you still hear me? Sorry, we got a little Wayne on the line there. Stu, talk to me again. Say hello.

Can you hear me? Your microphone sounds a bit like, yeah, like it's voice auto-tuned a little bit. A little auto-tuning on that. How about now? Better? Yeah, now it's better, yeah. Okay, I was going to, I don't even know what I just said. Have you noticed this episode of Pandemic Fridays,

it's like crawling to the finish line. It's like we had the internet outage, and then we couldn't get your mic working. Well, it's okay. At least we're playing good songs. I was saying that when I put my list together, I don't know if you guys can tell, but I really put a lot of TLC into this,

and I'm not talking about T-Boz and Left Eye. I'm talking about, and Chili. I'm talking about tender loving, tender love and care. I, I, I tell a little story.

The last act, how does the Beach Boys tie in to the Bee Gees? Well, of course the Bee Gees, when they were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, were inducted by Brian Wilson. It's the harmonies, right? Fame were inducted by Brian Wilson. It's the Harmonies, right?

They're both Harmonies. Yes. Yes. Yeah, the Bee Gees certainly were the bands that reinvented itself many times. We did an episode like Forgotten. I can't remember all the episodes. Forgotten Jams, right?

Yes. I mean, the reinvention, who did it better than the Bee Gees? Yeah. I was going to put the Bee Gees, the song One. This was their comeback jam in like 1991 or so? I remembered this. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, which is kind of like not a bad track at all. Of course, a staple of all of the Great Space Coaster Generation's album collection

would have been that Barbra Streisand, Barry Gibb record where he's got the stewstone beard on the cover and white outfits. And they collaborate on a couple of really great songs, too. And of course, Saturday Night Fever is one of the best selling albums in the history of the English. Yeah. And, you know, they have Columbia House to thank for that. That's true. That's actually true. Wow.

I didn't know that. I know that it sold a hell of a lot of units. That's an extra, they got an extra like 20 million sales out of Columbia House. Wow.

Wow. That was a big, that's a big, that's a big soundtrack. Maybe the biggest soundtrack of all time. Still available on CD in some of the

finer gas stations in Southern Ontario. I mean, listen, if you listen to songs like More Than a Woman and How Deep Is Your Love and, you know, these are great songs.

Right, right, right. And much like the Bee Gees, we're staying alive for this Pandemic Friday and I'm going to kick out again. Like my last jam was a CanCon thing and it was kind of different.

This one's a bit different too. So we'll play and then i'll explain it uh because it won't be apparent at first i pulled into nazareth just feeling about half-assed dead This is the band This is the band but you gotta stay tuned for this to make more sense So this is obviously Levon Helm

and there's no siblings in the band. But this is the version from the last waltz and if I talk long enough we should hear the staple singers come in.

A lot of better options go on. I get a chance to explain myself. Okay, I'll bring it down with the Staples singers going hard. I'm bringing it back when Roebuck pops comes in, okay? So let me explain. I was going to pick a Staples singer's song. And I thought, why don't I take this opportunity to play one of my favorite versions of any song ever, which is the Last Waltz version of The Wait.

Oh, here's Pops. Hold on. Hold on, my friends. Pops, hold on. Hold on, my friends. I'm telling you, there's nothing better than Pops chiming in on the wait from the last waltz. So, the staple singers, of course, are, in addition to Pops, we're listening to Roebuck right now, Pops,

it's Cleotha Purvis Mavis, the most famous of the staple singers. Yvonne, this is Siblings. So it's the dad and the famous of the staple singers. Yvonne, this is Siblings. So it's the dad and the siblings, the staple singers. It's a beautiful song. Now, tear me to shreds. Go ahead, tear me to shreds. I mean, I think that this is much like the expensive alcohol at the bar.

A bit of a reach. Top shelf. Unless you're tall like Kim. bit of a reach on this one. This is a bit of a disgrace. Oh. You're playing a song that's not even their song. You're playing a song that is famously from another band, not even the original version of that.

I mean, there's just so many boxes that this checks as to why it should not be on this particular song. I don't disagree with your assessment of the family members that are famous, but this isn't even their song. And that's okay because I did play Van Halen in their band. I didn't play the song that they wrote, but, but, but. Cam? Yeah, go ahead, Cam, but let me just tell Stu that your, you know, your final jam is also a fucking... No, no, that's fine. I have no problem.

But, like, this is not a cover because the original artist is singing it with them. So that's what I was trying to say. It's not like, if Van Halen was performing with the Kinks, that would be this. And why is that not allowed? Why does that lessen... I don't know. It just seems a little bit gross to me. Cam, you're the smart one in the group. Tell us what is wrong with this choice.

Yeah, like, I mean, this is... I'm going to be honest with you, Mike. I mean, this is not... It's not like a bad knish. This is not sitting well with me. It's not the band. Staple Singer, Single Singers.

I can't talk to the Staple Singers. I think it's a fine choice. A lot of big hits of their own. And I love the band. I love the Lost Souls. I love everything. I love it all. I really do.

Thank you, Cam. Thank you. But in the whole spectrum of music and it's one of the great things about pandemic fridays here on the toronto mic podcast we can really pull a little too a little national jesus and mary chain van halen you got you know jodakai like a bit of everything i appreciate you owning that now cam yeah i'm just I'm just going to lean into it, to quote Sheryl Sandberg. Yeah, I mean, it's fine song, fine concert film, fine contribution. Sounds like everything's fine. Thanks, Cam. I feel good.

I'm just saying, you know, I think there are different paths you could have explored to put my pr hat on let me get this i would have been happier if you did like the pointer sisters or somebody else like what the hell is this crap let me get this straight let me get this straight the staple singers are great you concur right cam great staple singer correct yes but you have them just singing background on a fucking song that's not background they share verse they do they take on verses themselves. They share the song. Yeah, I'll say this.

I thought long and hard, do I put the live version of Martha and Rufus Wainwright singing that Leonard Cohen song? And I'll just say for me, and this is my values, and perhaps this is a statement about my moral compass and yours, perhaps.

I don't know. Second week in a row that Hanson has been shut out on a category that they should have been played in. I think that's what's getting lost in this whole equation. We're running out of time and I don't hear any. I gotta go. We can't run out of time. We've never ran out of time on a

pandemic friday and it's in danger of happening today so bring the mood back here and i think the jets are going to help us get there not to be confused with the winnipeg or new york or jet the australian band that's right in fact start talking now because I want to bang through one, two, three, four jams in like 15 minutes here. So anyway, yeah, so this is the Jets out of Minnesota with their first big hit, a song called Crush On You. Probably very familiar to anyone who's listening to pop music radio in the 80s. I feel like this band isn't really remembered that much, but this song was certainly everywhere. There was like 37 members in the band. Yeah, there was eight. They were

a Polynesian-American family. Named after the song Benny and the Jets by Elton John. That's where the Jets came from. There actually is a you know, you look at their Wikipedia entry, there's some fun, a lot of fun sports tie-ins

they actually sang the national anthem at the 1987 world series in their hometown of minneapolis uh you might recall that's the twins and cardinals the uh epic frank fiola versus jack clark uh matchup also the cinderella 1991 minnesota north stars you might recall the i think they were the Also, the Cinderella 1991 Minnesota North Stars. You may recall, I think they were the number eight seed. Oh, Modena. I think the theory was always like, hey, when we're in Minnesota, if Prince doesn't show up, call the Jets. The Jets, yeah, exactly.

And then get soul asylum if the Jets are. I kind of remember them having a really big love song, like ballads, that's just escaping me right now. Yeah, they did a few other hits can you name them just so i can maybe yeah they had a song called you got it all that was later covered by i believe britney spears uh crossway broken art rocket to you was another song that was big on cfdr i know back these were big big top 40 hits absolutely yeah make it real which i feel like might have been on the girl talk album. Make It Real. That sounds like probably the one I'm thinking of.

Yeah, so the Jets had some jams. Did they sing this song like, people change, seasons change? I think that was Exposé. Isn't that Till Tuesday? No, is that Till Tuesday? Why don't I think anyways, maybe I'm... I'm going to go hard that that was Exposé. It was Exposé. Fair, fair, fair. anyways maybe i'm i'm gonna go hard that that was expose it was expose right right right yeah the jets i mean just fun fun top 40 jam i don't really know what else there is to say about this band but

uh yeah eight different siblings in this band which is pretty incredible you talk about family first uh the jets definitely put family first because it's all in polynesian dynasty yeah like not since The Islanders Haku and Tama Yeah Or C.V. Offey And we're just Going right into it

Okay This is My Final entry There's a member Of course we're talking about Yeah Talking about the brothers Final entry. There's a member. Of course, we're talking about the Brothers Robinson, the Black Crows. Hard to handle.

Another band, much like Van Halen earlier on, a band that was reluctant to have a cover song be their single when their first single didn't hit. They went to a cover, much like Van Halen, and of course, hard to handle, blew up the charts. It propelled them into rock superstardom. And you know what? When I was doing some deep digging on the Black Crowes, they are even more successful than most people probably even give them credit for.

In the 90s they dominated uh a lot of uh a lot of the rock charts with a lot of songs a lot of hits a lot of really cool kind of controversial uh videos artwork imagery uh of course this song hard to handle went to number one on the u.s rock chart 30 years ago, maybe even today. I can have the VP look that up. But in 1990, this soared to the top of the rock charts. Of course, the Robinson brothers are much like the Gallagher brothers in the fact that they're constantly feuding.

The only difference, they always get back together, then break up. They get back together, then break up. Famously, because Chris Robinson, the lead singer, together then break up they get back together then break up uh famously um because um chris robinson um the lead singer uh he feels like he should have more ownership of the uh of the band's royalties and whatnot is than his brother rich and they are you know constantly battling ironically they buried after their final final final reunion ever they ever, they said. They pulled a Cher, an Elton John, a Kiss, and they announced this year they were going to reunite this summer and go on tour to celebrate the 30-year anniversary of this jam.

And obviously, pandemic took that idea out of question. But the Black Crows. Okay, I have a few things to say. Firstly, Jealous Again is a great jam. It's also on Shake Your Money Maker, which was the big album that this was on. She Talks to Angels also was on that. I think he's the primary songwriter

is a guy named Steve Gorman, who now lives in Toronto. Oh, nice. Yeah, so in addition to the brothers... We know he didn't write this one. Fun fact, this is a Stewstone karaoke go-to. I've been known to perform this at weddings, bar mitzvahs, parties, anywhere where there's a band that knows...

If you go to a wedding and they tell you to go up and sing something, usually the band knows this one. But I will say, keeping in the tradition over the last kind of month of mind-blowing final entries, this is probably not going to blow as many minds, but it might. But it also ties into my last entry. I mean, everything sort of makes sense here. But, you know, my Bee Gees entry was written for Otis Redding.

Well, this song is actually a cover of Otis Redding. Give you what you want, but you got to go in with me. I have one fun fact. Toronto concert fun fact. There was recently featured on the Instagram account of the Flyer Vault, also fellow FOTMs. Black Crowes played a very unique concert in Toronto. Instagram account of the Flyer Vault, also fellow FOTMs. The Black Crows played a very unique concert

in Toronto. They played G. Ross Lord Park, which I don't know if you guys know where that is. It's right outside Astor Shiner Stadium. As far as I know, the only time a big rock concert was held there for some reason, the Black Crows had a concert there back in 1992.

I know this because my my colleague at twitter jamie michaels attended this very close to where stew and i recorded uh uh overtime sports talk right around the same time in the early 90s and i have no idea how that even got so well rock concert up in that part of the city but here's a fun fact from vp who has done some digging and tells us the keyboard player for the Black Crows Ed Harsh was from Toronto and he lived in Bloor West Village and sadly he's

passed on and he's now buried in Oakville, Ontario. A lot of tentacles for the Black Crows in Toronto even though they're from what, Atlanta I feel like. I don't know where they're from, actually. But yeah, also Chris Robinson's ex-wife is in one of my favorite movies of all time, Almost Famous.

I don't want to discredit the fact that, again, I played a song as my number one choice that turned out to be a cover. And I've done that for weeks in a row. I just don't want to let that go unnoticed. I actually think if we do a poll on Twitter, for example, we will learn that the choice of the staple singers with the band performing... No, that's like a waste of a poll. Nobody gives a fuck. Performing... Well, you know the Stewstone fan club led by Linda will just stuff the ballot box in your face.

By the way, for someone who leads the fan club, I just checked. She doesn't follow me on Twitter. She's not a real fan. Linda is a lot like Chris Shepard. She's not there. She's Alan Cross. Oh, that's amazing. Is that true?

It is true. Linda does not even follow. She's not really, like, it's just all hype. I wonder if Linda follows me. I was going to say, is it a real person? Is this not just like Mike in disguise? I met her at a TMLX. It's Mike's burner in Japan.

I think the VP might have met her too at Great Lakes Brewery. Okay, my final jam. Hopefully less controversial than my last jam. I'm still recovering from that. And I think we're going to make it under the deadline. If I play it right now. We heard this song before. I'm going to do another

spring pop, by the way. Hey, Matt. Yeah, Tim. Hey, have you talked to Mark lately? I haven't really talked to him, but he looks pretty down. He looks pretty down. Yeah, well,

maybe we should cheer him up then. What do you suppose we should do? Well, does he like butter tarts? I was lying on the grass A Sunday morning of last week Indulging in my self-defeat My mind was thugged, I'll eat the bugs I'll twist it around and beat

A comfortable, I'll treat you So, this is Mark Costanzo, not Costanza, but Mark Costanzo on vocals here. And his sister Sharon also did vocals and played bass guitar. And this is Len, Toronto's own. I believe this is the second time this song has been played in a Pandemic Friday episode, too. Any excuse, because it's a hell of a jam, and it's great for summers, and it's getting warmer out. It's time for Steal My Sunshine. We definitely love this song here in the universe.

We definitely all remember the visuals of the music video. They're riding around scooters on Venice beach, having the time of their life. Uh, you know, an infectious song, a recognizable sample, you know,

checks a lot of boxes. Uh, it has that like, sort of like naivety of the vocals. You know, I'm giving it a really nice sort of artistic review. I think that most people would probably be like shit all over this song. And I'm,

I'm speaking to it with like, you know, I'm speaking to it like in a very profound way, much like tag teams. Boom, there it is. I'll defend this song to the end of time. But the naivety of the vocals, you don't really just hear people who aren't good singers as lead singers of bands anymore.

Usually like auto-tune and other things coming to fix. But, you know, it feels like this is the type of song that anybody could just get up and sing and do a decent job of. But I don't know that they ever came back after this song with another chart-topping hit. Boy, oh boy, do you really need another song when you have a classic

like this? I'd love to know how much, Stu, you sort of had deepest roots in show business. Would they still be getting royalties for this? Like, I bet they just made so much cash off this song. Well, you know, the fact that it is a sample from, like, Mo, Mo, Mo, how do you like it? How do you like it?

They probably got paid a lot more than the Lenn guys did. You know, usually, like, when you come in and do top line over a sample, you get fucked when you're going to clear the song, as, you know, drummers from certain Canadian rock bands might attest to, the money goes to the writers. But, you know, there's no denying their place in Canadian history with this song. There's no denying, you know, Len, Steal My Sunshine stole all of our hearts in the summer of, I guess it was 97, maybe. Good question. our hearts in the summer of i guess it was 97 maybe good question for the record it was probably exactly maybe later than 97 maybe 99 yeah 1999 actually i remember this band len uh i know you

guys spent a lot of time at like hmv and uh you know sam the record man and vortex all the great stores that they had a very unique CD, the CD part of this, because it was all covered in yellow felt. I feel like I might have mentioned this on a past episode. Maybe I'll... Yeah, it was very unique packaging,

and they were definitely sort of around. Honestly, you'd see their listings a lot. I remember I them like at an all ages matinee at least palace with uh well ratchet post and treble charger and other bands of that ilk maybe i'll get mark costanzo on toronto mics during this pandemic like somebody i should the final fun fact i think as i uh play us off with uh the vocal performance of Monday's guest was Ron Hawkins from Lois L.O. So let me just share that a former member of LEN

is Brendan Canning of Broken Social Scene. That's right. We've talked about that. Don't forget to check out Scarecrows. The new horror sensation. If this show wasn't a horror enough, Scarecrows is much like this show,

a comedy horror, available on demand. If you want to just not take yourself too seriously, unplug and watch some sort of popcorn kind of film, I would definitely suggest checking out Scarecrows on demand, and all the money goes to a great cause, Stu Stone's bank account.

So thank you, Stu Stone. Everybody should watch Scarecrows on demand this next week, and then we'll discuss it on Friday. Cam, great job as usual. Thanks for doing this, buddy. Yeah, thanks for having me. Always a blast. And, Mike, you get to pick next week's topic, right?

Oh, yeah, I've already got it, so I'll tweet it, DM it to you guys later today. And VP, welcome. VP should be joining us whenever he wants. got it so I'll tweet it DM it to you guys later later today but thank you should be joining us whenever he wants I mean this guy's a mensch stand up individual much better than the other filth that you've allowed in here this is this is a real gentleman thank you I'll be back whoa the voice of

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