Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Festive Jams #TOAST48: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1810

Episode Date: December 2, 2025

In this 1810th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 48th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette as they kick out festive jams for the holiday season. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, RetroFestive.ca and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail].

I'm going to think about it so F-O-T-Ms, do you know what time it is? It's Toast time Toast Featuring Stu Stone Merry Christmas to you Merry Christmas

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rhymes with Gillette That's right Guys this is the last time We'll be together in 2025 What a year, what a year What a year it's been Let's recap all the jams we kicked out in 2020 So many

Let's do a recap show I was scrolling backwards actually And on you because you Your blog is so well maintained And on your toast page You can keep going backwards And backwards and backwards And see every month

month we've done. And I got way, way back to the first one we did, which was like December of 2022. Wow. That's the first time we were all together. Oh, wow. No, we were not together at that point. I were away. You were zooming in. I zoomed for like the first two. That's right. But that's the first one you were like, like you asked us to fill in. That's right. It was December 22. This is our third anniversary. Oh. Well, I was thinking so this episode is early December. This covers December 2025. And then I realized we really only have a couple of months where we got to worry about like a snowstorm messing up our plans, right? A really bad one.

Because January and February, it's always the risk that Rob Proust has to stay in enemy territory. I'm not going to be an enemy. Snow will not keep me away. Oh, that's nice. In fact, let's find out.

It makes me more. Yeah, makes me more determined. There you go. That's like planes, trains, and automobiles. You will find a way.

That's right. And you're driving the good car. I'm not going to say this time around. You have a good car. It's a Subaru. It's good for snow. It's like his other car is a bit of a be there. It's a beater, right?

It's a little bit. Although it's newer than the Subaru. Oh, is it really? It's just weird. That's just, it is funny. What's your other one? It's a Toyota.

It's a Corroa. Those are. It's a nice car. Those things last forever. Yeah. When I say, Beater, I mean like a,

it looks more like a beater. It's a complimenter. It's a compliment because they last. That's what I would get something like that. It's just an economical car that's going to just work, baby. It's going to live a long, long time. So glad you guys are both here. Thank you.

And we're pretty much on time. Yeah, we were both on time. So at, neither of you were at TMLX21. We did not make it. I was on the air and you were, you were probably, so it was Saturday.

So you had a night yet. I had shows. Did you have two shows? Actually, this weekend I was playing rehearsals instead of playing the show. So they were putting in a new cast member who's actually going in tonight for the show.

Oh wow. But I called in a sub to play for me in the pit and I spent my day just rehearsing with this guy. Oh, so I didn't know they do that. So this guy comes in for the rest of the run, I assume. Yes.

and he's called he's a swing so he's basically covering like all the guy tracks in the show oh okay it's a it's a crazy job for beat for actors to do because they have to basically know each actor's position on stage and where to go when you're you're on for this guy or that guy and when they're taking the day off where they're sick or they're sick or whatever oh my gosh wow i didn't even know that they so this one guy how many roles does he have to know it's like six oh my god yeah yeah that's crazy yep one of the things that we added to this uh tmlx 21 which I will go into more detail about TMLX21 when we do the FOTM cast, which is with the aforementioned, well, I didn't mention it,

but Peter Gross mentioned, and Cam Gordon and Tyler Campbell, the VP of sales, or VP of no sales, depending on what's going on. But we're going to do that January 2nd, so we'll do a little bit of a deeper dive into what happened. But I will say that the Broad Squad had this idea that when you got your name tag, you put your favorite episode of Toronto Mike on the name tag. And it was fun to see people and say, oh, that was your favorite episode.

And I saw somebody on the mic, and I wish I could remember who it was, who wrote down the Bob Willett episodes. Like 1,800 and 10 episodes. This person's favorite. It's not Gino Vanelli, you know. It's not Strombo. Like I saw Hamilton Mike had on his.

It was the Bob Willett episode. No, that's very nice. Wow. This is it. And Rob, I will say that Cousin Janno revealed that when she was brought into the TMU by Leslie Taylor, who's on the live stream,

hello to Leslie, that she said that the thrill was because she was feeling down and she went to a TMLX event and she couldn't believe one of her heroes was in attendance do you know who that was? Yes.

Stu Stone. Can you believe it? No, it's you. You know what? I listened to the whole thing when I was driving yesterday. So I felt like I was at TMLX. Yeah, I started the night before. Oh, you recorded this one.

You don't record the summer one. We only record the Palmas Kitchen TMX events. But we record it. So the way it works is, I planned to do three hours I went 315 because I had to get some more bodies on but there's zero breaks

I didn't even take a whiz I was down in my GLB and we don't edit us not a stitch was edited so what you heard in that three hours and 50 minutes was what happened in the room ask anybody who was there it's like a telethon it's like a telethon

and I listened back too because I was curious like how did this come together and I was like oh it sounds like there's even a producer maybe well you know what's interesting to me because I was there last year right I went to the Palma's last year. Right. And so I could visualize what was happening this year.

So listening to it, knowing you had moved your position in the room as well, it looked really cool. Right. It was a better setup. But I felt like I was there, even though I listened at 3.1. And there's video of it, by the way. So if you're like 3.1. Yeah. I can't do 3.1.

Well, I did 1.3. That's why 3.1 is really fast. So I had to get through it. I can't even do 2. Like I have to go 1 8. 1.8. 1.2 is my favorite. Yeah, well, one point three. One point two just gets rid of the dead air in between the breaths.

I always am surprised when somebody listens at one time speed, I'm like, because when I listen to like a, let's say I'm doing the YouTube video, that's what I was going to say. So the YouTube video of TMLX21 is now on YouTube. So search TMLX21. You'll find it pretty quickly. And you can watch this all. And a couple of times that the camera gets knocked down.

Like Ed Sousa pulled through the cable, brought it down and broke the tripod for goodness sakes. I have it like... You have a tied up. It's like, what string? I'm going to send him an invoice. It was a well-narrated and well-hosted episode. Very good. Because knowing, for me, knowing what was going on in the room with the food and the drinks

and all the people and you referenced a few times like the people in the back can't hear whatever, but it's partially... Well, that's what's happening. Okay. I won't spend too much time because I want to get some exciting news from Indy. But like, without a doubt, the FOTMs are happy to see each other, which I like. This community is like, oh my God, I haven't seen you since the last TMLX. whatever, and there's a lot of chit-chat going on.

So they're all catching up, and they're chatting, and there's a lot of talk in the room. So when the talk is in the room, I can't make it loud enough on the speakers without it feeding back. Yeah, there's a din in that room sometimes. I remember last year trying to help Al with it, too. So that was, we remember that, it was mainly all this stuff here, like I bring it down to here, and I amplify it later. But the recording sounded fantastic.

Yeah, so thank you again to Al Grego. Love that guy. This bearded, cuddly wonder that fell into my life one day and reached out. come over and see how you're doing this thing. Like, he's been so helpful. So he's amazing. I'm not going to, again, I'm doing this in FOTM cast. I'm going to move on very, very quickly.

I just want to quickly say 1.2, by the way, if you're listening, that's what they call the secret sauce in radio. So, or even in music, you know that, right? Like, what's it called? One of the, Tears for Fear's song was sped up. I think, I think it was, not everybody wants to rule the world. Yes, it is. Everybody wants to rule.

Was sped up, 1.2. Also, when top, when Virgin radio, when top 40 here in Toronto and across the country. When they first did it, they, uh, they, they, they, they, they up all their songs. Did they really? They did. Every song was secret sauced. Yeah. Love this song. Boyed the train. Hold on. Let's do it together, right? Down in the land of the Delta blues in the middle of the pouring rain. This one needs to be sped up a bit. Yeah, it does a little bit. Because there's a dance version. I had it on a dance mix or something. Did they really? I had a dance mix 94. I can't

remember know which year. But I have a dance mix. one that had a dance version of this that was faster. So my brain kind of maps it over and wonders, why is he, uh, why's he been drinking here is Great Lakes Bear? So let's crack open our Great Lakes Bear. I've got to talk to Bob about something important. What are we going to do? So I'm going to have this stocking to go with our

theme. Me too. This is a Clementine pale ale. Do you, I love Clementines. You used to only get them at Christmas. Yes, that's right. Here we go. Okay. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. He's going to, wait. What are you opening? No, I'm going to go for the son at 25. Oh, really? Thank you to Great Lakes for sending over the beer. Okay, three, two.

I like the name Sonnet because it's my favorite song You can smell of the orange as soon as you open it So I have the same beer that Bob has I only had two or I get you one I'm so sorry Rob But this is a festive brew It's a Clementine Pale Ale Stocky Toe it's called from Great Lakes Beer

And I'm drinking it because we're kicking out festive We are. But I'm playing the song for a reason Yeah, why? Question for Rob and then it's all Bob here Good song or great song Rob Pruss This song? it's fine.

It's fine. Oh, even worse than good. Yeah, no, no, it's a good song. See, not my genre, but whenever I hear it, I think that's a great song. I mean, too. I cannot turn this song off when I hear it. It's such a specific. Is it like 1998 or something?

Oh, it's earlier than that. Not much earlier. I think it was on Dance Mix 94. Four? So that was a remix. So I think this is early 90s. So, okay, it's mid-90s. It's very Bruce Hornsby.

It's very hot house flowers for me. It's all the pianos. I know it's Markone. I know it's Markone. And I don't know another song by my song. Nor do I. No, you should. You don't need to, right?

But it's a great song. Sure, it's a great song. 91, my friend. Come on. It's early 90s. Oh, my God. Yeah. Okay, so this started the trend.

Bob and are listening to Pearl Jamms 10. And this comes on. And this comes on. And we're like, what is this? Ma'am, I am tonight is one of the my favorite lines in a song ever written. So tell me, are you a Christian? You picture this beautiful southern black woman saying, I know. Ever frat?

And she says, tell me are you a Christian trout. It's coming up. It's great panel, though. Oh. Yeah. I don't think he cares for this song. It's fine. No, no.

I'm kind of surprised because it's piano jam. Yeah. I love all songs to different degrees. I do like the song. I just think it's very middle of the road. It's a very safe song. Okay. It reminds me of you.

Christian child and I said, man I am tonight. Great line. I know. You would have thought a song like this would have Bob and I excited. Oh, I love this song. It's just fine. Okay, so why am I playing this, Bob?

Why? Do you have any idea? Yeah, I got an idea. Walking in Memphis. So quietly over the course of the last year. So I got to Indy, November was my one-year anniversary at Indy, but technically yesterday was also my first day at Indy, Indy-88 and Indy FM.

I had a little bump in the road there. I didn't really talk about it publicly, but I got there, if you don't mind, I'll give a quick history. I was there, got hired part-time. I remember all of 24, I was unemployed. We knew all these stories. We saw you every month. Yeah, you did, but I didn't tell anybody what happened this summer.

So I went, I started working with them on a part-time basis per shift. Then by January, they were like, oh, we need you full-time. Like things are great. They hire me full-time at a very reduced wage of what I wanted. But I said, I'll do it. And I was doing five days away. I was doing five, six, seven. I was doing like days runs in a row.

I was on that one, on 8088 all the time. And I pitched an idea of what my role could be to the owner, Chris Grossman. And I said, I need this much more. I want this much money. And he's a sales guy. I went pretty high. I'm going to be honest. And I went in and he was like,

okay, he gives me a little bump up and, but we can't do that. And then we'll talk at the end of the summer. Okay, cool. So my worst case scenario was at the end of the summer is going to be, all right,

you know what? You're going to have to continue to work your five days a week. And we just, we're going to keep you on your, on the salary. No, no. He terminated my contract and said,

you're going just weekends. And I was like, well, that you just like set the bar high on what a new, what the worst case scenario. How low can you do? Yeah, exactly. Worst cases, you're not on this.

The worst case, it could have been, yes, sure. The worst case he could have fired. And he said that. He goes, I want you here. Wow. But I can't justify them. You know, he's, anyways, I think he panicked. He panicked.

There were some bad numbers at different points. And anyhow, I stuck it out. I did, I was looking for other, I was talking to some people, but nothing. I'm, here's the thing. I am so happy when I'm on the air on that station. I love doing it. The audience is great. and we're about to have the biggest book in the history

of any independently owned radio station in Toronto. I'm telling you that right now. Really? Yes. And that'll be Friday. Does New Cap count as a independently owned? No, I don't think so. I mean, if that's the case of, no, that's not true. Yeah, yeah, no, no, no.

Okay, no, I'm just trying to think because I'm going to actually after we get this big update, which I know you're building up towards. I do want to have a quick discussion on the, don't do it now, because I know Bob, you're going to jump into it because you're good at this. But the term indie, I just want to have a quick chat. about the term indie because it's been much maligned in the music world and I think it's been

bastardized in the radio world too and Bob will speak to that in a minute but keep going because I know the big announcement because I read it. It's not really an announcement but so I waited it out. I can tell you, I'll tell you guys now because they're going to be public I've been doing Saturday and Sundays and for

September, October, November and adults 1849 when I'm on the air on Saturdays. I'm the number two radio station in Toronto. And when I'm on the air on Sundays, I'm number one ahead of CHFI. Really? You know what? Thank you. I never hit that button, Bob. So yeah, Q Mornings. I have a, I have a, I have a, like, I'm getting like, like, it's crazy the numbers I'm getting. I'm getting like psychedelic Sunday numbers. Yeah. So, move over it. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I say that with, with, with all due respect to that. We've got a little feet coming up. Yeah. Yeah.

So now, I have, I've seen a nine-week sample. There's a 13-week sample. Maybe I've tanked in the last 13 weeks. But I've seen a nine weeks. Okay, I feel some pride here, like pride of ownership, don't you? Absolutely. Well, like, he did it because he was done and dead and buried. He was working at a casino.

I was. He was done with radio. Well, not that he wanted to be done, but radio was done with him. So I thought, yeah. And now he's, and I, and the reason, tell the listeners, why did I play walking in him now? Okay, because also, this whole time I've been, one of the things that he's had me, company's time

me do is he owns local radio lab owns four other small radio stations when I say small I mean small Milton Orangeville

Aliston and Bolton okay these are four small stations right now remember this is the guy used to own the Moose FM

right so the moose was everywhere and he accumulated all these stations sold them to Vista made a ton of money and new cap he sold it to the two of them

made a ton of money and that's how we afforded to buy in the 88 but so now he's reaccumulated these four stations and I've been doing afternoon drive

on those stations. Voice tracked. I've just been quietly doing that. What he's done now is he's rebranded all four of those stations under the name of Indy FM. But much like the moose, the moose had country mooses. It had rock mooses. It had all kinds of different mice. Shout out to Moose, grumpy.

Mises. And so now they move me to mornings. I'm doing the morning show on Indy FM. And I played walking in Memphis the other day. So I have a question. I think, okay, so it's not live in the morning. No, not at all. Okay.

Well, I'm asking the same question. No, no, it's voice tracked as well. Because the Indy 88 morning show is live. They are live, yes. And they're going to be getting played in the evenings on Indy FM. They're going to try to do what, you know, all the other big conglomerates to do it. You got a morning show now. I technically have a morning show on these four little radio stations.

I'm like Stu, Stu Jeffries there. I'm all by myself. I'm doing it. Well, this week I'm filling in for Lana on Indy 88. I'm doing the afternoon drive show live, two to six. And I am voice tracking the morning show. I think that's totally right. Radical, Bobby.

It's amazing. And I want to now, this good segue, so you have now, is that five stations in total that are born by Indy? Okay. That's true. And they're all owned by Radio Lab. Yeah, local Radio Lab. Local Radio Lab. Now, because I listen to a podcast called Indycast, which is about music.

And the original reason we call it indie music was because the record label was not one of the big boys. Not Sony, not Warner, not Universal. Right, right. So that's where Indy came from. But now people think of. indie as a style of music. Yeah. Even if it's a, it's like its own thing.

But even if it's a Sony putting out the album or whatever, the fact is, oh, that's indie music, even though it's not. So that term got changed. Yeah, it evolved. So walking in Memphis is not, it's not an indie song in that vein. So remind

the listenership, because we've got a lot of ground to cover, but remind the internet, because you're going to find out, like, I said it this morning. Well, I know, but we didn't hear it. Most of us didn't hear it. Although I know what you said. But tell everybody, so Indy FM, you're not just going to hear what we might refer to as indie music. You're going to hear stuff like that. Indy FM is basically an adult contemporary radio station.

So think CHFI, but not as, not CHFI as, not CHFI as its own thing. But that kind of, that's what indie, the indie FM, those four stations are playing the same music in all four different markets with my show. And Adam and Adam actually is doing afternoon drive. Oh, FOTM Adam. Yeah, and he does middays on Indy 88 live and he's a voice tracking, the drive show I used to do. And it's all the same music. And how does it work when you do the voice, like when you do the morning show and pre-record?

Do you do it? You go into the studio? No, I can do it from home. Can you? Oh, yeah. I could do it from my phone. I can do it from my phone if I wanted to. Oh, wow.

My phone's ringing as I picked it up. That's weird. Who's calling you? It's a fake number. Dan Jay is on the live stream about the shout out some people on the live stream. Many of whom I saw on Saturday at TMarks. It was lovely to see it. But he wants to know, how long does it take to voice track a four-hour morning show?

First of all, it's a three-hour morning show. I didn't want to do four hours. I said, not for that money. I said, I'll do a four-hour show, and I do four breaks an hour, somewhere around two minutes each. And it depends on, honestly, I can,

I can bang it off. I've heard that. I can bang it off in a half an hour. That's not including prep. Wow. That's not including putting it together. Yeah. But I can bang it off a show in about a half an hour.

And by the way, in D. I said this on the air. We are an independently owned radio station. We are, we don't own your cell phone. We're not, you know, we don't own your cable, we are... And you're not even chorus. And we're not...

And you're not even New Cap. No, we're not. We literally are fine. I get it. I just don't think they get it. No, and that's why I'm going to keep saying it. And actually, my, I said it yesterday. And the owner, Chris was like, I think that's great that you said that.

I said, oh, don't know, because no, I don't... Here's the thing. Radio in general is always far too afraid to tell people the truth. Yeah. You know, we never talk about other radio stations. We never talk about if somebody gets fired. We never talk about if somebody quits. They just go.

And I think that's bullshit. We got to be. real. It's the only place we can live is in real and in authenticity. And that's the only thing's going to save us. That's true in a lot of things in the world. That's also true in politics. We don't need to talk about politics, but it's exactly the same thing. People are full of shit. That man is

fucking crazy. Yeah. Trump, did you see him on this plane? No, I didn't see it. Oh, my God. Watch, go, watch the Daily Show with John Stewart last night. Oh, okay. I was on the road last night. Oh, my God. He is no, absolutely. Declare Trump is crazy? No, like, like, like, like, legitimately, even John Stewart was like, like, what is happening?

The guy is saying the craziest things. I'm sorry. Anyways, not to talk politics. So anyways, thank you very much for asking. Yeah. I think it's big news. So I'm happy for your success at 88.1, but also that you're going to be heard on other indie stations.

And I just think that somebody might, if they're hesitant to listen to indie because they don't like, I don't know, that new indie music or whatever. That's not what we do. Yeah, you might hear Mark Cohn's walking to Memphis and two. You're not going to hear that on Indy 88. So you're going to hear that on Indy FM. You know what?

careful what you said. You might someday. I think you could hear. I think that the way that it's changed. You're right. I've seen a big change over the last 10 years from 10 years ago until now. Forggin the last two months. Yeah, yeah.

So big change is new ownership, since the new ownership. I think we're very close to hearing walking in Memphis by Mark Cohen on Indy 80s. We play Vanessa Carlton 1,000 miles. Yes, right, right. I think you're closer than you think. Yeah, but we also still play Mother, Mother and Colorado, Tokyo Police Club and REM and the Cure and all that stuff. Well, the good thing.

is that we've all grown up with loving such a wide variety of music that what your market is going towards is a group of people who have gotten older and loved all kinds of music from indie to fucking Markone. No, that's true.

Why are we listening to Chauva Ranks? I'm going to explain why we're listening. Luckily, it's a long song. We're going to get back to that a minute song I dug back in the day. But quick shoutouts on the live stream, live.tronomike.com. We have Andy, who made a funny comment

about she didn't realize people had such strong feelings about walking and I didn't realize it either and it is a safe middle of road song which is why I'm gonna disagree with what Dan Jay says country

well nothing country band Lone Star did do a remake of this it's not good I wouldn't know what Lone Star was up to you did they do the amazed they did that was the big that was also an R&B song

didn't they do I swear too no that's a good example about an R&B song That also a country song. Okay, so quick shout out, shouts out to Moose Grumpy, who's on the live stream. Shouts out or shoutouts? Shouts out.

It's like brothers-in-law. Okay. But Moose was so helpful taking pictures and getting food vouchers at Palma's kitchen on Saturday. Thank you, Palma Pasta, for feeding everybody. They had to reuse vouchers a few times because I don't know how many he made. 75, but we blew, like this was the biggest, the most attended TMLX event yet. It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable.

Okay. So Dan Jay, we shout you at. a good question for Leslie's here, Cousin Janow and I listen to Bob and our way home from TMLX. That's how much they love you, Bob Willett. Congrats, fantastic Bob, says Tobias Vaughn. Chris Ward says, not Christopher Ward,

but Chris Ward says, way to go, Bob. Oh, thank you. Jayho says, congrats, Bob. And I want to just shout out your wife, Rob Pruss, who is on the live stream. Love seeing her on the live stream. I want to shout out,

Hey, Ref, who's working hard, crunching the numbers there. Frank is on the live. Live stream. Good to see Frank. Who else we got? Well, you never know who's going to drop by the live stream here. But I'm playing this song. Do you know this song Rob Pruse? No. You don't know this this song? No. Shabaranks. I like the sound of it, but I dance hall. So I, Bob, I don't know your feelings, but I love this song. I love this song. I like the sound of that. I grew up with all dance hall. I grew up at my floor, my 10th floor of 10 Bolby Avenue where I grew up had five Jamaican

families. And they blasted dance hall all the time. What year would this be? Ninety-one. 90 or 91? This is definitely there. But see what's funny for me, because I love this kind of stuff, but I don't listen to it actively. But it sounds to me like what Culture Club used to do 10 years earlier where Boy George was working with dub guys

and like, they would do these kind of remixes. And I always love that sound. I wonder if it would be the same production. Well, the woman is named Crystal. And we're going to get to a Rob Pruss update right after I do this quick run here. So I've always loved this song. And then I was reading about this song Because I'm like, I love twice my age

Which is Shaba Ranks featuring Crystal And then I don't know why I never thought of this I mean maybe it'll be news to somebody else as well But What the what? Give it a moment here I know this is a Rob Proust Jam If there ever was one

Goodbye to you, my trusted friend We've known each other since we were nine or ten Together we've climbed hill and trees Learned of love and ABC skinned our hearts and skinned our knees

Goodbye my friend Do you know who sings This is Rob Proust? Yes, you think Terry Jacks Does this bring you back To 1150? Of course

KOC Gers you back to nine years old So twice my age Which is Shaba Ranks featuring Crystal And this big jam Are both from the same source Which you'll play in a minute

But soak in this part We had joy We had fun I'm in love with the man Nearly twice my age Don't know what it is But it's a hint from the youthful days So twice my age has the same

Progression Same beat I don't know how to speak music But same sound as seasons in the sun Okay Seasons in the Sun Big Jam Both for those songs I just played

Come from this song It's a French guy Oh yeah Yeah, I saw him sing I saw him perform Oh Chonte One has chanted

A bilingual show Give me his initials J.B J.B. Oh, it's Jacques Brell. I mean, yeah, yeah, Jacques. It's Jack Bro. Yeah.

Jacques, bro. Come on, get to it, Jacques. Hold on. I'm in love with the man. Nearly twice, my age. I don't know what it is, but it's a hint. Did you, I don't hear the, I don't hear the similarity as much as you do. I see what you hear, though.

I read about it. That's how, then I realized it. You read about it? I read about it. It's the form of the lyric. And the, the, the, the form of the lyric. form of the So twice my age

has the same progression in the sun but both are copying Le Morabonde from Jacques did Terry Jackson not give this song He probably

No he probably did I would hope so This is the original And Terry Jacks Okay English lyrics Oh I'm gonna remember a question I have during our thing

Okay so explain your sweater Bob Oh yeah It says Mobis Mobis This is actually It is a restaurant In Cape Cod

in Wellfleet Massachusetts and I've been going there for a bunch of years with Laura's family my wife's family I still remember it's right on Highway 6 like right on the main drag as you come into Wellfleet

and it was this restaurant and there was a big lineup and it's called Moby Dix and I was like oh we gotta try this place so we go and when we get there I love it like as maligned as our relationship is with the Americans we're in the lineup and I look around like everybody's drinking

in the line like they're tailgating the restaurant and I'm like what is happening the restaurant's not licensed you bring your own booze and they don't charge you like a bottle or like a bottle of a fee or anything This is like Palmer's Kitchen on Saturday

Not licensed But we brought our own beer And I gave it away Yeah and so what happened is I was like we had stuff We'd just come from the beach So we had stuff in the car They bring you out

If you have a bottle of wine White wine they bring you a bucket with ice And cups and everything And they have everything I mean you want What do you want? Do you want lobster? Do you want crab?

Do you want scallops all fresh? It's Mobis It's a own. open during that, but if you ever go to Cape Cod, highly recommend Moby Dix. Because we know you've interviewed Moby. I have to interview Moby. I know. Yes. I follow your career. You know what? I just found out that I have a friend

who sings with Moby right now. Oh, wow. She was in our original cast of Mamma Mia. Oh, is she touring with them? She's touring with him. I had no idea. And then all of a sudden I saw this picture of her on Facebook and somebody else. Her name is Nadia Duggan. Nydia Christine Duggan. She's fantastic. So she was in our original Casta. Sometimes you drop these names of this person and they're super fucking famous.

Yeah, no. But like the guy from a... No, but she's like a Penguin, right? The star of the penguin who's winning awards for that role. You once dropped her name in a similar fashion. That's right. That's cool. No, Nadia, I had no idea.

Amazing. Now, tell us about your cool. I love your sweater. And then I want to hear, like, what you've been up to, how things are going. And then I have another. I got this like last Christmas. And I think it was beyond the time that was a retro festive or? No, it's not.

I found it somewhere online. Some crazy place. I know how to do it. I know. I need to give you guys a gift. But it's take off Bob and Doug. I love it. Takeoff.

Retrofestive gave the first 75 people at TMLX 21. a free gift this holiday season. It is a Christmas story nightlight is the leg lamp. It's a smaller version. I actually gave mine to my mom and plugged it in on the weekend. Oh, this is a plug-in one. Yeah, you plug it in. How do we get so lucky to get one?

Because you're friends at the show. And I want to say, I want to say, thank you Retro Festive for sponsoring the show for November and December. Amazing. And everyone listening can save 10% at RetroFestive. com with the promo code FOTM. And this guy, Tyler Schwartz, was amazing on Saturday the way. And he gave me a T-shirt to wear a Weezer Christmas shirt.

And he gave me these gifts for you guys. He's got some great Second City stuff right now. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Like, SCTV. I don't think that's retrofit. Oh, is that not real? It's retro kid.

Retro kid. A lot of retro, retro Ontario. I thought they were connected. It's all retro shit. Oh, I thought they were connected. Oh, my apologies retro festive. It's a lot of retro. You guys are way better.

You're way better. Retro kid. Fuck that guy. Yeah, yeah. Fuck that guy. Retro Festive did a good episode of Al Grego's show, yes, we were open. I actually heard from El Grego on Saturday that

Palma Pasta will do an episode about Gregorio. Oh, amazing. Last time we were here, you gave us a moose. A moose mug. A moose mug from Christmas story. No, no, no. From vacation. And I now have two of them, and they're on display in my house.

Because you gave me one last year. Oh, that's funny. I think it was at the, it was at the Palm of Pasta you gave those away. But this one, the leg, I gave this to my father-in-law. one year, but not a light-up one. So, I put it, again, brought it to my mom's on Sunday, plugged it in, looks amazing.

Love a Christmas story. There's so much cool shit. I went to RetroFestive.com just to bounce around because they had a, what is it called? Cyber Monday. Yeah. They had some deals, including these leg lamps. Unbelievable, you can get the full-size industrial

leglam, like a couple hundred bucks or whatever, and that's unbelievable to have in the window. That's a great man cave thing. You stick it in the window? You stick it in the window. Because it's a great... Because it's an award. No, but it's not a...

It's an important award? What is the term? A major award. It's a major award. It's a major award. I know. I was thinking about it, too. And if you're ever in Cleveland,

I highly recommend going to see the house. You mentioned that before. I did that. It's so good. I always wanted to do that. Oh, my God. It's worth every penny. And if you...

Like, if you love a Christmas story, it's worth it. Well, Ty Schwartz wrote a book about it. During one of the songs, I'll run and show you. Oh, cool. He can sign a copy for me. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, he wrote a book about all the places it was filmed and the inside stuff on a Christmas story.

So, speaking of Christmas, we're going to kick out festive jams. And a couple of, so I thought I'd just remind the listenership. It's called festive jams, not necessarily Christmas jams, because there are other holidays celebrated in December. That's true. Does anyone on this very diverse panel here? At least with the other toast crew, there was a Jewish man. To be fair, on one of my albums that I picked, There's two Hanukkah songs on it.

Oh, I know. Yes. I know. There's two Hanukkah songs, which I really like. Stephen Page is Jewish. Yes. Okay. This song, I'm going to butcher the pronunciation, Mao Zer, but it's also known as Rock of

Ages. Shout out to Def Leopard. Yeah. And shout out to Mutt Lang. There's a great episode of the Chris Melanthe podcast that dives into the chart history of Mut Lang. Oh, he's got so many hits. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Wow. He sure does. He sure does. And not just with his ex-wife. Right. not just with ACDC, and of course, Brian Adams. I get two holidays every year because my wife is Jewish and her family is Jewish.

I know your wife was Jewish. Yeah, yeah. So we do Hanukkah. How do the in the in-laws feel about you? So ask your wife in the live stream, maybe. I had to do a bit of homework. What's a good song for Hanukkah? I don't know.

I really like classical music. But this song, I think, I want to hear from anyone who's Jewish in the live stream. I know Hey Ref is there. I know your wife is there. is this an appropriate song to just remind people that Hanukkah happens in December? I don't know.

It doesn't sound to me. But what do you know? I don't really know. So let us know. I actually cha-cha. Is that how her nickname goes? I don't know she's there right now, but I will confirm her for sure.

But also... Yeah, the Hanukkah song. Dan J. just commented said Adam Sandler's Hanukkah song. Well, that's a goofy one. Yeah, but it's good, but it's serious here. Why do you want to be serious?

Okay. There's an elegant exit here. I know. I thought I thought I thought. started playing the other one already. That's my mistake. Just a quick shout out to this artist. It's a he who can name this artist. Algeron.

Algeron is a good guest, but you're wrong. That's a good guess, though. Oh, is it Luther Vandross? Nope, but that's a good guest, too. You're in the right Teddy Pendergrass? It's Teddy Pendergras. Third time's charge. Wow. What is?

Do you know why I knew was Teddy Pendergrass? I just heard Eddie Vedder, or Eddie Vetter, Eddie Murphy, doing a Teddy Pendergrass bit. Oh, that's so funny. So this is called Happy Kwanza.

I found a Kwanza Jam. Nice. I like this. Give it a moment. Didn't make your list, but I like it. Now, racist. I just discovered it. I don't do it.

Rob does. You Hansen, the Kwanza Jam. Oh, I took a good quote from your, hold on, I got to find it. I'll find it here. So, anyway, happy Kwanza to those who celebrate. Happy Hanukkah to those who celebrate. Merry Christmas to those to celebrate. And happy holidays to those who enjoy the secular version of the Santa Claus Christmas.

I will be the, I can't believe I'm going to say these words. This is why I have a quote, yeah. Okay. Do you want to read the quote first? No, you tell it first. So I am, yours truly, Bob Willett. Don't tell humble he'll have kittens, okay? I am the Grand Marshal for the Atobico Santa Claus Parade.

on Saturday. Is that fucked up? I love it. I think that's fucked up. But with who? He's the Grand Marshal? Okay. So I got the invitation.

Please be the Grand Marshal. I pitched a few other bigger names I thought would be more appropriate, including Rashbadani. But apparently none of that worked out because they said, no, it's you, buddy. Has Brendan Chanahan ever been in? Well, he's, I have the Shanahan's, they're from here? They're from Mimico, absolutely. They would be a slam dunk.

I know one year I went to this parade, and it was Pinball Clemens was the, so I'm like, okay. Wow, that's some he. But I went back to the committee and I said, I'm going to do this, but I want by my side. I want the legend that is Peter Gross. Oh, nice. And then Peter Gross is quote.

They brought it to a committee. They had to go to the committee. Peter Gross said to you at TMLX21. Nothing says Christmas like a Jew in a pickup truck on Shabbas in a Tobico. Mike Wilner said that. Oh, I thought that was Peter Gross. Oh, that was like, William. We were listening at 8.1.

He was referring to Peter Gross. Peter Gross made a joke about the fact that, okay, well, I'm Jewish. Yeah. sense that I'll be the guy. You're Mike Wilner. Mike Wilner made that line, right? That's amazing. Oh, that's hilarious.

I love it. Humble Howard would love that line. I wrote it down as well, I was listening because I, that was the best thing. Oh, thanks for playing this. I like this. You don't like it? It's okay. Let's listen and discuss.

It's growing on me. It just makes me want to scream. Let me ask you, do I have to? I would rather be anywhere else because Christmas in Toronto is like living inside a bad dream. Forgive my be in graphic, but the noise, the crowds, the traffic, turn me almost psychopathic when I'm there. The pious platitudes, the smug superior attitude, and the utter lack of gratitude in the end. Christmas in Toronto, I don't want to be trapped for the holidays. Christmas in Toronto, sounds like punishment enough. It's so dull there that I slumber,

When I get to the mouth of the Humber And I wake up unencumbered When I get to the Scarborough Bluffs No matter where you are You gotta bring it back up When he gives the love Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true Well, you guys just go like that

All right, okay Hey Mike What do you think of this song, Rob Pruss? It's growing on me. First time I heard it, I didn't really like it Because I thought it was too cynical And then, super cynical. Yeah, but then I had the turnaround at the end

You realize, well, he's building somewhere. But, okay, I have more on that, but it's called Christmas in Toronto And the artist is FOTM, Stephen Page. If you don't know, with Stephen Page. Come on. Yeah. Jesus. Dentian cord work back there. Oh, yeah. Lay on me, Roe.

Bob, tell us what you think of this song. So I saw, I saw he's doing like a whole Murdoch Mysteries thing and he's, he's been out and about quite a bit. Look, I will admit, I'm biased. I love Stephen. I love Stephen. I love Stephen's music. I love him more than you. Stephen's always been great

to me. I was in the video for Brian Wilson, okay? I was in the audience in the opera house. You know, they have the live version from Rock Spectacle. I'm in the audience. there. Me and my cousin, Rich. Yeah. Me and my cousin Rich went

and, you know, stood and hung out with them. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all,

and that was long before I was ever in radio. I just did it because I'm a huge fan of the band when Steven's in the band. And, um, I didn't like it at first as well because I was like,

I was a little disappointed. I was, I had how shitty it was to Toronto, but then there's a big turn. I know, but the turn is not the kind of turn. Like, it's not like,

it's just I like I like it because I'm from there. Yeah. Like it's like, Oh, and I, that's where I... So here's what I will say, okay? Because I was watching... I saw a photo of Wayne Gretzky golfing with Donald J. Trump. And I was thinking, oh, this fucking guy is so fucking tone-deaf and doesn't get it.

Like, I'm so done with this guy. Like, I'm so done with this guy. But... This is nice. He's going through all the cities in the... So when he goes through the city, they'll all cheer. But I don't see this a few times. Like Huey Lewis in the news, hard of rock and roll.

So the reason I brought up Wayne Gretzky is I think at this point... This is the part where he says. I want it any other way. You know, I'm always going to spend my Christmas in Toronto, and I want it, want it any other way. Those pipes. My take on the, oh, yeah. You know, that's what's missing from a bare naked ladies' concert in 2025.

Is that those pipes right there. Yeah, absolutely. Jesus. I just put this. in the Whatzab group, but I had, in the wild, I don't know what radio station I was listening to, I was driving my kid to soccer, and I heard the old apartment.

And I was like, oh, wow, like, what a great bare naked lady song the old apartment is. And it's, and I don't know exactly which guy, I think they all co-wrote it or something, but the vocals on that are Stephen Page, and they're exceptional. It was just fantastic. So, quick take in this song, is that I listened a few times. Stephen Page, I think,

is as Torontoian today as Wayne Gretzky is Canadian. Like, he's been gone a long time. He's been a New York state a very, very long time. That's an unfair comparison, first of all. Wayne is, Wayne has been California a long time. But Wayne's in L.A. and Stephen's in Western New York.

It's practically Ontario. I heard that same comment at Timox, not Ontario, but I would say, this song is really, and I'm personally tired of people who live in the 905, which is a lot closer, and people who live outside of Toronto, just crap it on the city.

Like, you don't live in the city. Bob and I, we live in the city. It's so easy to say, Who would ever want to go to that fucking city, that traffic, the noise, the whatever. Do you listen to my show ever on the radio? You probably don't. So, look, here's the thing. I will always say, it is, I love this city. I've only ever lived in this city.

I am the East End version of you. I'm closer to the C.N. Tower than you are. Like, I am right. But I can see it down the street. Yeah, but I, yes. But I can see, I can see it from the Danforth. Maybe I can see it from the second floor. I'm just saying, I live closer.

I live closer to the downtown than you do. And I will say I do everything I can to big up this city, as the kids say. But sometimes it is hard. It is hard to do so because this is such at times a poorly run city. But like in so many ways, be it metro links or the city of Toronto or the Ontario government or whoever it is, this place is nowhere near its full potential. That being said, I still love it. But sometimes it's, I understand where the hate comes from sometimes. But this is this song is indicative of it.

He just craps on it for like three, three quarters of the song. It's basically. Stephen Page saying, who the fuck would want to go to Toronto? Like what, and he says it, and he says something, he goes, in the song, he talks about before he leads to the, the humber. I was at the mouth of the humber yesterday. He talks about how, like, it's a slumber. From the humber to the bluffs.

But yeah, before they talk about, like, what a boring city. And I'm thinking, is he talking about Toronto? Like, boring city? That's all, that's an old, like old white bread and mayonnaise, Toronto, you know, That's what he might remember is he's a Scarborough guy from back in the day. Because he's from that day when we were considered like Montreal's like boring cousin.

That's really old now. That's old now. That is old now. But he's been gone a long time. And then he, you know, this twist at the end was just like I wouldn't have it any other way. But it's really like it's not like he's saying,

you know, I'm just saying I'm personally tired. I'm tired of it. There's a funny joke from Tobias Vaughn. He's tired of people in a Tobacco saying they live in Toronto. Ah. As long as your 416, you're okay for me. No, I'm in Toronto.

I'm in Toronto, Toronto. And Friday night, by way, shout out to Ron James. I was at his stand-up. I was sitting beside Humble and his girlfriend, Shona, and I was at Ron James' concert, and I biked there, because Monica was already downtown working. And then we took the go-train back to Mimico, and it was slick

as fuck. Like, I'm just saying... When it works, it's great. It was working on Friday. And it works 95% of the time. I'm going to be on. But the 5% it doesn't, oh, it's a pan in the ass. I just... I will just quickly say, I... You know what? I just... It's gone. Go on. Move on. Move on.

I'm going to move on, but I like Stephen Page a whole lot I don't like that song That's fine And I wanted to play it Because it's a good segue Do you listen to any of us Do you know any of his solo stuff?

Just like when he's on the show I'll listen to what the new thing is But that's funny with the Stephen Page solo stuff Which he's a very talented man But I just want to hear that old apartment Well it's like It's Gordownies Outside of Coke Machine Glow

Gordownies for solo album Even Coat Machine Glow which I owned It had the Vancouver Divorce And Vancouver Divorce and Chancellor But it's not the tragic I don't put on the Coke Machine Glow I have it, and I have it on vinyl. I love that album.

Oh, yeah. No, I love that album. Maybe there's fans of Stephen Page's who understand where he's coming from. Yeah. And so they're like, they want to shit on Toronto as well because they love it for the same reason. They're like, there's a lot of problems. But we wouldn't have it any other way. So he's sort of speaking to his crowd.

Right. Well, I'm just, I get a lot of comments from people who live in 905. Yeah, real quick. So I was going to do this last toast. I just want to mop it up because it's sitting in my soundboard, okay? Mop it up. Like, as in Gloria. Gloria.

This will be quick, and then we'll get to our festive jams. Thank you for being here, Robin Bob. Thank you for having us, Michael. I didn't say Robert. No, she's right. I'm sorry. Robert and Robert. Two Roberts.

Okay, so really quickly, this is the big jam from, who wants to name the artist? It's not Laura Branigan, is it? Laura Branigan, that's great. You think this is her big song? Yeah, I think this is her big song. What do you think her big song is? Oh, I think it's, uh... You're thinking of Pat Benatar.

Oh, am I? Get me with your best shot. No, that's not what I'm saying. thinking. No, they got Laura Brannigan's self-control is a bigger song. Oh, she's got a couple of good ones. Wait, don't you think this is a bigger song than self-control?

I don't know. Let's find out. Yeah, find out for me. Yeah. Imagine when we didn't know. How boring. I like the song, but I think self-control is a bigger song. This is very 80s. I love this. That keyboard, yeah. This was number one. Are you ready for this? Yeah.

Oh, it actually peaked at number two. My apology. But it was on the Billboard. Hot 100 for 36 weeks Wow. And it was the record at the time for a female artist. All right. Number two in Canada. No, I think it was number two in America, but number one in Australia in Canada.

Are you just taking it from Wikipedia? Yeah, that's right. So number self-control was number four. Yeah, so this goes to number two. And this stays in the Billboard Hot 100 for 36 weeks. I think this is a bigger jam. I think self-control is a better song. Yeah, and it's her song self-control, right?

This is not her song. So that's where I'm going real quick here. The producer of this song is a guy who just died. That's why I took a note on this story. And his name, well, his fake name, was Jack White. Oh, really? Don't get confused and don't get scared, Jill LeBlanc, okay?

This is a different Jack White. This is not the cousin of FOTM Ashley McIsaac, okay? So Jack White produces this song, Gloria. This song is a cover. Did you, I think you might know this. I don't know if you know this, but here is. And this song is also produced by Jack White. I think this is how it all comes together here.

So hold on. Listen closely. You're doing a mashup there for a second. Oh, yeah, here I am. I know what's going on here. Okay, so just give it a moment to hear the lyrics. Sounds like Van Halen jump. A little bit, yeah.

Go ya. Monkey Tunigaria Manchi Tuni Mambo They were blasting this one at Clinton in college back in the day Oh yeah, at the dip That's right I had many of Peroni at the dip

Who's this? His name Umborto Tozi, this man knows Okay, so this is the original Also produced by the Shadow to Ridley Funeral Home by Jack White.

This is also produced by the same guy. Yeah. So Jack White produces this song. He wanted a year of an American hit. But there's one more song I'm going to play, and I want to see if you can name the artist. This is also a Jack White production. This next one I'm going to play.

Jack White, no longer with us. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. All right, Pete. This song here, bring it down. One morning in June from 20 years ago, I was going to riddle. This storkman's son.

I had everything That money could buy. This stalking toe is delicious. Don't you want to guess? Don't you want to guess? No, I don't like it. It's got like a Like a late 80s shitty Michael Bolton vibe

But not with the Michael Bolton vocals This has given me Walking in Memphis vibes Wow That is white What that's fucked up That's fucked up Get the fuck out of my basement

Are you serious? Yeah This is like the most This slop This piece of shit You're comparing to the great Mark Cohen's walking in Memphis Only in the way that it's like a generically good

This is generically 80s Markone is generically 90s to me Yeah But it's speaking Generically 90s, nothing else from the 90s sounded like that. Hot House Flowers. The Hot House Flowers are not a 90s band, first of all. Is there? No, they're not.

Is there? No, they're not, actually. They're an 80s band. Really? You didn't even know, you thought it was 96? I did. This man never even... I'm old, remember? This man, who I loved like a brother, didn't even know twice my age by Shabarang's and Crystal. I find me, next time you come, find me a song that sounds like... that is a typical 90s song that sounds like walking in Memphis. Joshua Kattison. You know Joshua Kattison? That's not a hit.

It wasn't a hit? I thought it was a hit. What is this garbage? Yeah, that's what I want to know. Let's focus on what's important. Then we're going to get to the festive jam. What is this? Rob.

Yeah. What's your cultural background, your dissent? Oh, it's David Hasselhoff. That's David Hasselhoff. He didn't let me get there. You didn't let me get there. You put us out of our misery. He saw where it was going.

He said, I'm going to. He said, I'm going to take a short cut. God. So he just wanted to hit no matter who could sing. And this was a hit. German's love David Hasselhoff. And they love Saga. Speaking of,

Norm MacDonald. What did you think of the Saga episode? Didn't listen yet. No, I'm sorry about that. I'm going to listen tomorrow. I had a co-host for that episode. I know.

I'm very happy that she got to do with you, though. I thought that was a really lovely gesture for you. I don't know what's going on in her life that could prevent this from happening. And I didn't ask because I thought it might be personal. But she's been invited to have a one-on-one in-person meeting with Michael Sadler. By Mr. Sousa. By Mr. Sousa. Yeah.

This will all be arranged if she, she can just get her ass to a Mississauga bowling alley. I've never been to that bowling alley. I'm surprised you haven't played that bowling alley. Me too. I actually talked to Ed about possibly doing a gig there. That's true. I don't think I will.

Gentlemen, we're kicking out festive jams. No, I don't know. We didn't talk about money. Yes, festive James. Festive. This was your choice. Let's start with the... Can we talk about the festive special for a second? Remember when he used to be Toblerone and then they switched it to fucking win? Do we remember? I did a whole break on it just the other day.

Do you know when it launched in the late, I think 88 or 87 was the first time? It was $5.75. I've seen the retro Ontario cut an ad and I signed it. When does this lady come out with the chicken and stuffing and pie? Oh my. Is that early 90s? I don't know that. Chicken and stuffing and pie?

Oh my. Is that a TV ad or a commercial ad? TV ad. Oh, wow. But it was a ran for many years and I always think about that ad. But yeah, it was Toblerone for a very long time. See, now, though, I'm a big, I'm a. I can't do just a quarter chicken.

This is something that I saved from Twitter from a thousand years ago. Actually, a few years ago, from Donovan Woods. What happened to the relationship between Toblerone Corporation and Swish L.A.? And can we not work it the fuck out? That's true. Because now it's lint. Yeah. It's those lint balls.

Yeah. Stupid lint balls. Okay, in the spirit of Christmas, shout out to David Hasselhoff. Yeah. Rob Pruss, any words before your first festive jam? No. No. Put your jacket on you, cold?

Yeah. Okay. Good day. It's Christmas part. Oh, that makes sense. The sweater makes sense, everybody. Or to yourself on Christmas Eve, if there's nothing else. Former Toronto DJ, Rick Allen.

Just listen to the stereo. I wasn't on this part. Oh, I guarantee you you'd be on. Okay, so good day. This is a Christmas part, and we're going to tell you what to get your true love for Christmas. Look out the window. Where? What are you doing?

This is an F-O-T-M jam. No. Oh, it's a great white north, and it's snowing because it's Christmas time. Hey, Hozer. Here's a quiz. Quiz for Doug. Okay, I have my thinking two on. Yeah, right. What are the 12 days of Christmas?

Just figure it out, right? Christmas is when. The 25th. Right, and what's the 24th Christmas Eve, right? So that's two. And then what's after that? Boxing day. No.

Boxing day, yeah, yeah. That's three. Then what's after that? Nothing. New Year's. Four, and what's New Year's Eve? Five. Okay.

Where do you get 12? there's two Saturdays and Sundays in there that's four that's nine and three other days it's a long intro I forgot about it it's not an intro it's part of the song no ain't it. It's a debate you could have

when it gets played on the radio I think it's an intro I cut it out you're feisty today against Robb I can't believe his the comments he made about Mark Collins wonderful walking in Memphis and then he compared that to

that's me on the organ Did you like this when they put somebody in one ear and somebody in the other year? In this, I do, yeah. In the old days, you wouldn't listen so often with headphones as just a speaker, so it was even cooler. Yeah. Get a beer. Thank you to Great Lakes beer. Cheers.

Good a beer. Cheers. Three, French toast. Two, turtlenecks and a beer. And a true. Should be more there, eh? All right, Robin, bring it her down. I want to hear your thoughts on the epic 12 days of Christmas.

Well, this is Christmas 1981. Bob and Doug McKenzie. Yeah, Christmas 1981 was on side two. I think it was like near the last track of the Great White North album. And I went to, my family went to Germany for the Christmas season in 1981 to be with my grandmother and my cousins and stuff. To see David Hasselhoff? Didn't see him there. Nope.

But my cousin Robert and I, Peter Pan's loving this album and he loved it so much because his English was his second language but he loved Bob and Doug McKenzie and so this song... Like a lot of the humor he wouldn't necessarily understand

No, but he just knew it was funny like you just get that sensibility, you know? And so I've always just loved the song and yeah, the idea of them just sort of riffing on this together I think is just amazing that they made this classic. Yeah, he is a classic.

You can imagine the like as an improviser you can imagine them just going off in character on it. Yeah, so great. But they worked, I'm guessing that they did the music track first. Oh, yeah. Because even they're, they're, like, singing a little bit off of the track, and the track just keeps going, and they got the nice backing vocals and everything.

Oh, yeah. It's just so cool. I love it. Rob, did you know that Rick Moranis was known as Rick Allen on Toronto's airwaves in the late 70s? No. He was on Trump. Really? Yeah.

I did not know that. And I think he pulled a shift or two at CFTR as well. Yeah, I think so. Rick Allen, he was known as. That's crazy. And Ingrid Schumacher was on the program. Shout out to FOTM, Ingrid Schumacher. She talked about training Rick Allen, aka a.

a Rick Moranus at Chum FM. That's amazing. That's amazing. So cool. You're getting... Shree. Oh, there's a good tag. A long tag, too. Merry Christmas.

And good day. The claps come in. Happy New Year. It's so good. And your sweater says, take off, eh? And that is... Which is on the same album. Ray Yide North. That's a Gettie Lee.

There's their two tooks? Two toks. Two toks. Yep. It's not a beanie. It's a toke. Americans call them beanie. I don't know who there.

Do you know anything about the production at all? His production? Yeah. Did you bring any notes at all? Did you do any homework for this episode? Wow. His hair is so. You know, Bob, listen.

He's got no words before. No words after. Just enjoy the music. You're just mailing it in. I'm phoning it in. I'm driving it in. Well, Bob, you have notes on your games. I do today.

I don't always. I don't always. I think that's part of the deal. And some, you know what, though? To be fair, I've also shit on them

for having too many things. I go from one extreme to the other. That's how I work. Six things to sit to play. That's the thing. I got no extra like one of the other. But to borrow a phrase from one of my favorite movies,

office space, right? People can get a cheeseburger anywhere. Like people can hear 12 days of Christmas on YouTube right now. Yep. But they come here for the fun facts and the mind blows. And also I think,

our take on it. Like our relationships to them. I know. You like this song. No, I know. But like you, he has a memory.

That German memory. It's very specific. It's only his. And he shared it with us. He's always defending him, Bob. Yeah. I don't like it when mom and dad fight.

All I ask from you, my, my brother from another mother is, you know, just do a little homework. Like it just brings something. Wow. My homework is just the song.

Like, who produced that song? You stepped off on a bad, you like that. Mark Cohen thing is like hitting. And by the way, I never, oh, except for the dance verse.

on that, whatever that was. I can't believe there's a dance version. Whatever, 93 or whatever. Yeah. I didn't own any Marconi. No, I don't know. No, CDs or anything.

Isn't it weird that you can love a song but not own anything? But I didn't even like listen to a station that would ever play it. No, I know. So I don't think I've heard on the radio. Why do you like it means? What does it mean to you?

It makes me feel good. Yeah. Like something about the story and something about the tune and like Bob likes it at the end there. I happen to, like I don't know another Mark Cole's on. Man, I am tonight or whatever he yells out there. The fact that you compare. It's going to be 2-1-1.

I think walking in Memphis is a great song. I could be wrong. No, it is a good song. But the fact that you say, oh, that to me sounds like that, that shit I played from David Hasselhoff tells me, like... What's inflammatory is what it is. Well, my only reason to compare is because the Hasselhoff song is like a really generically good 80s production.

And to me, that Mark Coen song... Really? Yeah, yeah. And to me, that Mark Cone song... But that Haselhoff song did not... For the record, it did not as if I need to say the sentence. It did not chart in North America. No, of course not. And it didn't resonate with you at all.

And I don't think anyone heard it outside the Hasselhoff family and a bunch of Germans. And the bunch of Germans, like maybe the whole population. But the Mark Cohn song to me is a really good but very safe sounding song. Which is the opposite of like indie, which was your whole point in the first place. Interesting. That it was being played on an indie station, but it's the complete. I can write an essay on why it's not a safe sounding song. Really?

I think so. Yeah. I know. I would agree with you on that too. Yeah. I'm Charlie Brown. I love everything. Yeah.

I see all sides. I think, you know what it is? I think that's what's upset Mike is you came off on how you actually really just, you don't like it. Like you're, you know, like subjectively. Objectively, you're like, yeah, it's a good song. But subjectively, not to me.

We can have different tastes. Yeah, we can. A lot of people say, oh, I love this song. And I'm like, I hate that song. And, you know, I just, you know, but the fact that you didn't bring a single mind blow or a fun fact for Bob and Doug. No.

I got nothing. Because I don't do homework on your jams. No. But I want to know who. produced it where it was produced. I want to know a little more. I want some in the same way. You can probably just look it up on Wikipedia. If there was only a device

right in front of my face. I want Rob tell me. I won't I won't look it up on Wikipedia, but I do want Bob Willett to say anything he wishes to introduce his first job. We've already heard from this artist. Mark Cone. You're going to love this piano. It's a Mark Cone Christmas. Listen to this piano. Dashing through

the snow I'm feeling all festive now Or the fields you go Laughing all the way Bells on bob tails ring Making spirits bright What fun it is to write And sing the slaying song

Tonight Let's listen to the hole, if we can. Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh, what fun it is to ride, and one horse open sleigh. Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way. Oh, what fun it is. is to ride and one horse open slain. Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way.

That's a tonal change. Now, this is, of course, jingle bells by the bare naked ladies from bear. Barenaked ladies for the holidays. Came out in 2004. So this part, I love the production on this. If you listen, every verse, they add more and more instruments to it. So this is just Tyler on the drums. Right, and there's a little bit of piano at the end

And the bass comes in Yeah, and then wait Yeah, double notes, yes What happened to that? Oh, it's my headphone Oh, it's my headphone. Yeah, I know And then listen to the ad, I had more now

Isn't that great? Sorry, yeah, that was me. So, I love the, the horses leading lank. So, anyways, this came out, 04. I didn't really listen to it until I had kids, right? My daughter was born in 10, and I was just going through CDs in my house, and I found I have a Warner Music early copy of it from Steve Kane and Steve Cody. Oh, cool.

FOTM, Steve Kane, and Steve Cody, who you should have on the show sometime. Really smart guy. I agree. And I just saw him at Wayne Webster's retirement party last week. Oh, how was that? It was amazing. It was so much fun. I got an Oasis vinyl

singles package on a silent auction Oh wow Yeah, it was really good You were to hear Stu Stone's review Of the Oasis concert Oh, I didn't hear it No

He was over Friday You got to listen to it So Anyway, so this is jingle bells I love So I found it And I started listening to it I'm like, oh my God

This is so good And my kids love it This is one of This is my primary Christmas album Is it really? Yeah Oh wow There's some

It has the one with Green Christmas, which, by the way, I think Green Christmas, which is Ed's song, I think, very similar to the Toronto Christmas song. Kind of a, you know, I hate Christmas kind of thing. Well, hating Christmas is fine, but I just find that when they out-of-towners crap all over this city.

I just think the theme, I'm trying to draw, I know, I know. I'm trying to think of the Toronto, Mike, Toronto Mike. Toronto Mike. And also on there is the Sarah McLaughlin, God rest you, Merry Gentleman. and there's some Jewish

Hanukkah songs. There's two Hanukkah songs, Elf's Lament with Michael Bublay. I remember this album. It's a great album. It's a good album. I have a little dreidel is on there. And Green Christmas gets a lot of airplay

in this country at this time of year. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Cancone. So, now, obviously, I don't know if you know this. This came out a couple years ago. The origins of Jingle Bells are not the greatest. No.

No. Really? Yeah. Wow. So, originally. That's homework, Rob. So, hear that.

The, uh, Jingle Bells was originally. originally written by a guy by the name of James Lord Pierpont in 1857. It was actually a Thanksgiving song and it was called One Horse Open Slay. Now, here's the problem. He was from the south.

I think my mind blow is an actual early, like what? Somebody's redone the song as it was originally written first. You could probably play it and I can talk a little bit over it. So far it sounds like jingle bells. Let's hear it. Dashing through the snow in a one horse open sleigh.

For the hills we go, laughing all the way. There's a mountain ring, making spirits bright. Oh, what's part to ride and sing the sleighing song to ride. So the original lyrics, I think, in the second part, actually, are about a man and a woman falling off of the sleigh. And it is inferred that it is slaves. Really? The original, yeah.

This guy wrote some really, really bad songs. Oh, wow. He wrote a song, what else did he write? He wrote a song that basically was like a, I mean, he used to write minstrels. Really? Yeah. Yeah, like Amos and Andy stuff. He's not a good person, the original.

So he was on his time, though, when racism was all the rage. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And soon Miss Fanny Bride was seated by my side. The horse was lean and lanked. Misfortune seemed his lot. He got into a drifted bank and we got upsawed. So they got knocked over, upsocked there.

Anyhow, there's actually a bunch of videos out there you could find on YouTube on the history of that. We should kick out the racist jams because of so many. Ram Jams, Black Betty. When you read about what that's about. Brown sugar? I think we did that for problematic Yeah, that's right, yeah I was listening to

Dire Straits, I want my MTV man, they dropped that F-bomb a lot I thought it was just once. No, the little F word with the hearing in the Mink Coes. Yes, that's right. The little F word's got his own cadet plane. Yeah, little F word, he's a millionaire.

Yeah, like the forcefulness of the F in it is what I... When you hear him talk about it, he said he's in character there. He's in sort of similar to Fairy Tale New York, but he's in the character of this blue collar

uneducated guy who spews this stuff, he's hearing these guys, he's moving stuff, and he's the guy who talks like that. The song became associated with Christmas in the 1860s and 70s. It was featured actually, it was one of the first recording on an Edison cylinder in 1889.

Yeah. So, look, it's still a great song. Jingle bells. I didn't go in anywhere. Jingle bells. It's a great song. But James Lord Pierpont, look at this guy. Look at the picture of him. He's not a nice fella. This is like when they tell us

now, you know, Young Dundas Square is a Confederate, he was a Confederate Confederate square, right. Exactly. He's a Confederate soldier. Yeah, he he, he, oh man, like he wrote a whole bunch of stuff. He wrote something called

the colored coquette like, ring the bell fanny. Like, this guy's not a nice guy, but thankfully most of those songs are gone. Yeah. I'm born from my old cottage. All right. Which, by the way, Donald Trump just sets his

campaign when he runs for his third term we conquer or die strike for the south he's a bastard he was a bastard remember you and I both love dukes a hazard

yeah but I didn't know at the time no I know I had no clue but I'm saying everything here so my thoughts on this real quickly here is that I feel like society always tries to like erase history that is like uncomfortable or unpleasant right like okay

let's get rid of the word Ryerson and all this stuff right which is fine right but but what I prefer and I'm not saying do this for a learning institution, but I prefer that you, instead, you just, this is like a learning opportunity. Like, the story lives. Like, yes, this guy did this, but he also did this.

This was his name. And yes, many things are named after him now because of what he did. But, like, you sort of like give the context, which is this would not be appropriate in modern society. And we have learned it. That's called history. That's called history. Like of Johnny McDonald.

When they were toppling the Johnny McDonald, I'm like, okay, well, he did this, that in the other. And this is why the statues exist. And yeah, maybe he also did this. But let's talk about that. That's fine. We could talk about it. Do they need statues?

Like, so for it, like this question, this. In 1970, this guy, Pierpont, was elected to the songwriters' hall of fame. For jingle bells? Yeah. Probably just for jingle bells. But like, should you be there, given all the other bullshit? No. Right?

And there's still, to this day, right? There's a James Lord Pierpont music sponsorship at the university in Savannah, Georgia. I don't know. That says it all. It's in Georgia. Oh, Armstrong, Atlantic. Armstrong, Atlanta State. And that's where the Dukes of Hazardt did.

Yeah, that's right. Anyhow. So there you go. Hazard County was in Georgia. All of that being said, that album, I highly recommend Bare Naked for the holidays. It's a go-to. It's a really good album.

One of my regrets from TMLX21 is that Brian Dunn was in the room and I wanted, I took a mental note, get him on the mic, to explain to my co-host Elvis, his Bear Naked Lady fandom. And then when I looked around to make him get on the mic, he was no longer there. Elvis was a really good co-host, too. He's like a morning show host, because, like, his laughter makes everything better. Listen, he is my go-to co-host.

He'll be back here for Festivus, everybody. If you want to hear more Elvis and why wouldn't you. Festivists right here now for a time for a big show. Can I kick out my first festive jam? It's your show. Can-Con, just like Bob's. Mine was Can-Con too there. That's true. No, you're right.

Very Can-Con. snow lay you round about deep and crisp and even brightly shone the moon that night also the third FOTM jam in a row yours was an FOTAM you get around man saga everybody gathering winter fuel well Has anyone in this room ever attended a Skydiggers Christmas show? I have not. However, I am giving away a pair of tickets this afternoon on Indy 88 all week long. And no, it's at the Danforth Music Hall this year on December 20th.

I have tickets all this week from 2 to 6. Well, we'll talk later. Somebody I know might be very, very interested in winning those tickets. Absolutely. Listen to Indy 88. But I have been to several, but typically at the Horseshoe Tavern. But shout out to Jim Romanko, who I saw in the crowd at TMLX21, who actually took me to see Skydiggers Christmas show

in Hamilton a couple of years ago that was amazing shout out to the hammer I love these Skydiggers Christmas shows and this is a cover well it's got to be a cover it's a traditional song but Good King Wensselis hope I'm saying his name correctly this is a I'm not a religious man

I am a happy atheist as I'd like to say I love the Skydiggers version of this song and particularly when they do it live it's very nice this song is from the 10th century Wow This is an old song Okay

Is that like a thousand BC No what the hell is the 10th century 10th would be 1100s No No it would be in the 900 The 90000s I don't know Because the 20th century was 19th

Bob's right Because the 19th It would be the 900 It would be a lot of time ago It's the 900 It's the 900 It's oh the heady days In the 900s

So Whencelessness Yeah well the story So there's a lot of references To the Feast of Stephen for example, and... Feast of Stephen Page. Right.

It all comes full circle here. He was the Duke of Bohemia, this gentleman, St. Wenselas, the First. Duke of Bohemia. Do you guys have any clue where Bohemia was? Yes.

Because it doesn't exist anymore. Tell us. I've been there. It's in Eastern Europe. It's in Czech Republic. You know what? You nailed it. Yeah, I know.

Prague is beautiful. I've been to Prague. I've been east of Prague in the deep deep into the Czech Republic. When it was USSR? No, no. Oh, okay. So, by the way,

So I've got a bit of, I'm going to fact-check myself. Shout it to Robert Lawson, who was at TMLX-21. But, so this is, the story is about St. Winsolus, who was from the 900s, 907 to 9355. And Bohemia is now Czech Republic, where Czech Republic is now. But this song actually isn't composed until 1853, my apologies. I will, 1853. 1853. Not the 10th century.

It's about the 10th century. It's about the 10th century. It's a Gregorian chant. It's about the 10th century, God damn it. but it was composed in 1858. Some guy named John Mason Neal. He's an English hymn writer. Also a racist.

No, I'm kidding. I don't know. Maybe. So he writes the lyrics, but this melody was around a long time because the melody is from the 13th century. Ah, there you go. A spring carol called Tempice Edest Loridum.

Cool. Which translates into the blooming time is here. So. Which is actually a song about Opaq Steakhouse, by the way. Yeah. It's a blooming onion. Well, yeah, that's right. The bloominions.

That's right. Absolutely. So a couple of quick hits here. because I want to do a little bit here standby. So, speaking of Cancon, people don't realize this is Cancone. Good king, when's

last look out on the feast of Stephen, when the snow lay around about The Irish Rovers? That's what I thought to. This is the Irish Rovers. Who, as discussed in a previous episode, this is a Toronto band. Yeah.

My buddy, a guy I went to high school with, his uncle was in the band. I used to watch, they were on TV all the time when I was a kid. But when I was growing up, because my grandfather, shout out to Grandpa Reg. He had an Irish Rovers album. And I just assumed they were like from Dublin or something. Yeah, right.

I figured there was some Canadian connection because they were always on CBC. Oh, yeah, yeah. They're a good show, right? I'm like that. Amazing. Okay, so shout out to the Irish Rovers. And one more. I like the

Bongos Yeah It's almost got like a horse thing Yeah right Hip-pop Ah I'm feeling festive Maybe it's a beer Plyminton is a winner

Wait could have been the Willie Nelson Could have been the beer That's right Good King wins this last look First of you two gentlemen To name the artist Lerina McKinnett wins another beer.

This guy's good. This guy's good. Lorena McKinnett. Can't beat that, boy. Okay, absolutely. So I didn't point this out, but that Skydiggers cover

is on an album they released in 99 called Still Restless, the Lost Tapes. And it's kind of interesting because the famous story, and Andy Mays came over and told us all about it. But they lost their masters.

This is kind of a terrible story. There was a bankruptcy of their record label, and their masters, the Skydiggers masters were lost, completely lost. So they started re-requered. sort of like Taylor's version.

This would be like a Skydiggers version. And they had a... They put a lot of them on like Still Restless, the Lost Tapes, and they also put a cover of Good King Wensselis on that album. The Skydiggers have a Spoon's connection, right? Because Derek Ross, our drummer,

was the head of Enigma Records, which signed them in 89 or so. Whenever they signed for their first album, it was his label that signed them. and he was like, he's the one that, like, found him. So, okay, so I just quoted a tragically hip song with Bob there. It could have been the Willie Nelson,

could have been the beer from Great Lakes. That's a new version I just made up. But when they were on Saturday Night Live, Gore Downey paid tribute to the Skydiggers by doing a little bit of a penny more, which is one of their big jams. Really? I will give you everything in a penny more

where the two songs I remember from early Skydiggers days and I just thought were both fucking gorgeous. That's cool. Well, one last thing here, so it's all been very serious, and we're going to move on here. But I was looking at parodies of this song, because it's ripe for parodies. And here we go.

This is a big jam. Where did everybody go? So, Mary, so many people. So, Mary, God. All the beach of Stephen. When the snow lay round the mouth, deep in this man even.

So Mary, Christmas from the butthole surfers. This is butthole surfers. Wow. And right on schedule. So, Rob, I don't need to tell you that you're now kicking out your third jam, not your second jam, okay? Sure.

What? Yeah, well, we like to mix. You know, we like to mix things up, Bob, you know, by now. We really like to mix things up on this program. You know, sometimes we call audibles on the line of scrimmage. We call audibles now. And then we'll bring down the butt hole. surfers.

So, tricky spot here, Bob. My, yeah, talk to me. Derek Ross also signed, I think

butthole surfers were also on Enigma Records on his label. Now, Derek Ross, this guy became DMD, didn't it? Exactly.

Yeah. FRE entertainment, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's, but this is the label that went bankrupt

and fuck them out of their, those kind of a. So Enigma went bankrupt? FRE. FRE. I was just looking at a thing. FRI. Enigma had Enigma the band.

Well, right? I don't, do you mean the classical? Oh. There's an American version that says that they did. I don't know. It became FRE.

Wow. All right. We're saying hi to somebody. We're going to three. No, you don't know who's on the screen here. I don't know who's on the screen. But Rob does. But Rob knows because we coordinated this surprise.

So I'll bring down the butthole surfers. And then Rob, will you have any words about your next festive jam that you're kicking out? What's the music through here right now? This is still butthole surfers. I'm bringing it down. I'm bringing it down. Please. Any words before.

I kick out your next this was my when we talked about festive jams Christmas songs this was the first one that came into my head

and I had thought of this song before you you had played something related to the song on a previous episode but you didn't play

this one and this is the song for me. I'm sure I didn't play this one no okay let's play this song

and then discuss okay let's me Santa George bringing you some of my favorite Christmas Carol

Why don't you sing alone? Silent night, holy white, shark him big, shark he bite, Round the ocean he swims so wide, swallowing every adult and child eating every piece beating every piece shark the bear when angels see one one day I hate the key

The biggest shark you bear Never sing when it was done. It ain't the queen. It made the ball Midnight clear. I was screaming in the mood. First teeth is off my nose and ear, Then the rest of my head he chewed.

Thank you. Beautiful. God resty, merry, gentleman, you're not so merry now. The seaside signs and not to swim, but you swam anyhow. You laugh. Well, I'm not scared. You won't get me no... Dashing through the sea in a lightweight open boat.

All my friends and me hope to stay afloat. Whims on water rise. Oh, get your home. This one's gonna eat us up if we don't get him too. Ow! We hot, king, shark, unting, we love to hunt the shot. We love to kill him in the day and kill him in the dock. Hey, hey, that doesn't sound right.

Good king, sharp, this lost bit of the legs and feet of Stephen. He bit the left and then the right to try and get them even. When we opened the shark up, what did we see? Southern ropes are not in six and a resting five golden rings with fingers, four drawing boats, three French mates, two Turkish ruts, and a golf course with a barbrews. You better not boat, you better not swim. Swim You better not

Look on To check you are short You are sick to watch Rob Proust, Keyboardist for Spoons Honeymoon Sweet Currently working on Broadway at Mamma Mia

you know there might be a special, a very special guest on the line. So I'm going to let you and the special guest discuss further. And, of course, this song we just played is called Santa Jaws. Santa Jaws side two, to be precise. And I was driving up from New York yesterday, thinking about my songs and thinking about fun facts and things. And it all of a sudden occurred to me,

wait a minute, Fred Mullen was just on an episode of Toronto Mike very recently. and you talked about Santa Jaws, but you didn't talk about Side 2. And Side 2 is the side that is the shit for me. And so I called Mike on the phone while I was driving yesterday, and I said, Mike, isn't any chance we could get Fred to come on the show and we could do a deep-ish dive? But I don't know how deep you can go on Santa Jaws, but hello, Fred. Hey, Rob. That's fantastic.

It's an honor to have you in the room with us on the Zoom. Because to me... You're most kind. I mean, I was listening and watching, and boy, it brings back such fabulous memories, I got to tell you. I have to tell you, like, this is one of my most important records from the age of 10 years old. So I just turned 60 this year, and this Christmas of 75, this was one of my favorite songs. Of course, you know, because it was the Jaws year, and it was the year that I also had a 45 of Mr. Jaws, which I'm sure you remember Mr. Jaws as well, Dickie Goodman. I had a whole little

45 case and I still have like with all my writing on it Bohemian Rhapsody and Santa Jaws were like my two most important records The big two And as a 10 year old For me

That was when the light bulbs were off in my head And I was like I think maybe I want to be in a band And like this is like listening to this music This is what I want to do So thank you Thank you for Santa Jaws Well you know And as you said

This is the B side Yeah The A side actually almost was a hit We just, A&M and L.A. took it and in the U.S., but they got it out too late. But we did have a hit in Canada, which was delightful to hear it on the radio. Because, you know, it was just a very subversive act. Yeah. And we love being subversive.

Well, you know what's weird? So yesterday, after Mike, after I suggested to Mike to bring you here, I listened to your interview with Bob Lefsetz, and it was a fantastic conversation. and you talked about doing, and I know you talked about this with Mike as well, you talked about doing homemade television. And I went to YouTube and I found a complete episode of the show from 77. And again, for me, like, it was a complete weird like flashback. I remember it so well that I would come, I mean, again, I was 12 years old, 11 years old, 12 years old, and I would come home and watch your show. And like, it's, it's crazy to me to think that that was you. I didn't put the connection to homemade television to Santa Jaws. So thank you.

again for that. Yeah, I mean, it was all done at the same time. Yeah. We had this, it was a four-man improvisational comedy group that actually was Canada's first. Yep. And then Second City came in, but we were able to get a few things happening, including a little novelty record deal with A&M. And then we also had CBC wanted us to do an improvisational half-hour weekly kid show. Amazing. Which was called homemade television. And so at the same time, Rob, you know, I was very busy making records. So, So this was a sideline for me, but it was a full-time job for my brother, Phil Sabbath, and Barry Flatman, who were the other three in homemade theater. So, but, you know, going back to Santa Jaws, you know, that makes me laugh every time, you know,

and so I'm just thrilled, but I'm happy to answer any questions you have because, you know, it's really one of those great, you know, I know that Rob had me, sorry, that Mike had me on for my book. Here's my shameless plug, actually. Here's the shame of plug. The book is called Unplugged. And if you want it, Mike, can I tell them where to get it? Oh, my God, yes. Of course.

Okay. Well, if you, right now, actually, in Canada, there's a Black Friday sale continuing because the shipping is so much more expensive to Canada from the U.S., but you can go to Fred Malin unplugged.com, and they send them to me and I autograph and inscribe them and we send them out. So that's the first thing. But there's a little bit about that. Santa Jaws in there.

Yeah. But the one thing I did want to say is that, you know, I think in the book, there's a homemade theater chapter. And I think I say it was one of the happiest times of my life, those years to be able to do the stuff that we did both on TV and on record. The record stuff didn't take a lot of time. But the TV show ran for three years. Yeah.

And it also was quite subversive. I mean, we did some things as I write about in the chapter that were really irresponsible. But it was beautiful too because like the episode that I watched, the complete episode was like about working or something and you had a really touching like like a episode like I mean like a skit with a guy who was like looking for a job and he didn't want to work and his friend won a lottery ticket and all this stuff. And then there's you playing a James Taylor song. You played Handyman and it was fantastic. And like I think, you know, I would do a Fred's pick of the week every week. Yeah. You know, and the whole show was shot in one day.

So, so, you know, we were scrambling. changing clothes and, you know, doing Coke and all sorts of Google stuff. Amazing. You know, and, you know, but literally we had like 20, you know, costume changes. I threw in a song. Yeah. I did the music live on piano for the little skit. The skip, by the way, one of my favorites.

And it was, my brother plays a newsstand guy. Yeah. He's very, very disabled. And he's going to get new eyes if he ever wins the lottery. and Barry plays a guy who happens to have won the lottery and he decides to leave the lottery ticket under my brother's cup or something. And it's a sweet tale about, you know,

first of all, that, you know, people want to work and at the same time they want to have their health. But, you know, the show was supposed to be positioned for really ages five through about 12. I was right on there. I was 11. Yeah. And at the same time, you know, There were other big stories. Every week we would do a thing called a big story.

Yeah. And by the way, there were no women. So we all played women in different skits and stuff. Shout out to kids in the hall. Yeah. Yeah. And I actually was pretty good looking as a woman. Yeah, you were.

I remember that. Yeah, there's a good one, budgie boy. It's like a wolfman one where I played a very fetching woman. But anyway, the thing is a lot of them, a lot of those stories, the ones at the end of each episode, were also really irresponsible. responsible. But, you know, but they were fun. We were very, you know, impressed and very trying to be sort of a Monty Python for kids. I was going to say what, because for me, as an 11-year-old, what, what I loved probably about a show like yours and what was happening in the 70s at that time was a reflection of what Monty Python were doing and Saturday Night Live

was a new thing happening and like all those kind of like eclectic things were going on, which is cool. But I must say as far as Santa Jaws goes, I don't hear those, those Christmas carols without thinking of your lyrics, like five golden rings with fingers. I'll tell you the genesis of that. First of all, the A-side is a narrative with music about the night before Christmas. And it's really funny and lovely. And actually went gold in Canada. It was sort of great.

I helped. And it was up for Juno Best Song of the Year. Wow. Amazing. Mind-blower. Which shows they weren't paying attention. You know, but there was, the genesis of the B-side, well, first of all, we had to create a B-side.

We didn't know what to do. And Larry, Phil Sabbath, and myself had grown up in New York, and we were Jewish kids. And when we would, the subversive Jewish kids would just be always, you know, because we always felt we were sort of outnumbered by Christmas. Yeah. Because we had a little holiday of Hanukkah, which frankly sucked compared to Christmas. And so, you know, as. as whatever, as 10-year-olds, as 12-year-olds, I remember my brother and Phil remembered that we

would be in choir and we would change lyrics just to get back at Christmas for a second. But of course, nothing quite as subversive as Shark the Herald Angels sing. I think my favorite one is Good King Shark the Sloss, spit out the legs and seat, sorry, spit out the legs and feet of Stephen. He bit the left and then the right to try to get them even. Yeah. the one that the other one besides five golden rings with fingers the other one for me is god rest you merry gentlemen you're not so merry now the seaside sign said not to swim but you swim anyhow

you laugh aha i'm not not scared you won't get me no and then you talked about using the sound effects were apples and celery that barry flatman would chew right we did an episode of so we the three of us here bob and mike and i are doing we do a show called toast every month talking about music and we did an episode recently and i played the beach boy song vegetables and I talked about the fact that Paul McCartney was chewing celery on the vegetable song. So it's related to Santa Jaws. There you go.

No, it was just a good, close miking of eating apples and celery. Yeah, yeah. This is a side note, but we have a common friend in Louise Petra because Louise, I did Mamma Mia for many years with Louise on Broadway and in Toronto, and I know you produced some songs for her,

and I produced a couple songs for her for a solo album just before you worked with her as well. and Louise and I sort of were obsessed with Jimmy Webb which I know you have a long relationship with Jimmy Webb as well yeah I know I love Louise I did a beautiful record with her

where I brought Jimmy up on some of the songs I remember when you were going to do it she told me and she was so nervous she's like oh my God Fred's going to bring Jimmy to play piano for me and I couldn't believe it so yeah it was it was really love at first sight

for them and it was great and I wish that record again you know you talk about all these projects you do and not all of them ever past really sort of a just even people knowing they're out and uh the louise album if you ever go and look up i guess you have to go on spotify and stuff but um it's called shattered and the version we do of the song shattered by jimmy with jimmy on piano is just absolutely chilling that's gorgeous but santa jaws will live forever Santa jaws is a hard one to beat no i'm telling you i know i know

Two years later, you did sometimes when we touch, of course. Well, I was going to blow it all. I was going to blow Bob's mind with that because, Bob, I don't know if you have a chance to listen to the wonderful episode of Toronto Mike of Fred Mullen. It's exceptional. And you'll learn in that episode, his role in the Dan Hill mega smash, sometimes when we touch Fred Mullen produced it.

That's amazing. One of my first shows live was the Festival of Friends in Gage Park in Hamilton. and Dan Hill was the headliner and I love sometimes when we touch almost as much as I love walking in Memphis Mark Cohen. No, I love, I love, so sometimes when we touch. We should get Fred's take on that song.

Fred, what do you think of Mark Cohen's walking in Memphis? Well, Mark's a great pal of mine and he became a great pal of mine. No, he became a great pal of mine because I sought him out because I felt it was one of the greatest songs and greatest records ever recorded. I think it's a one of the, the line, ma'am I am tonight is one of the, You can't not listen to that line. I turn it up every time. I'm in touch with Mark and have been since that came out.

I reached out to him and I've worked with him numerous times. But yeah, that's, you know, boy, when you put sometimes when we touch near Memphis, I do. Actually, it's funny you say that because as soon as you, I associate the two. Do you think, I do? I don't know why. I do. Maybe it's the timber.

They're both beautiful songs. They're both beautiful. So maybe it's the timber of Dan's voice. I don't know. I associate the two. That's wonderful that you produced that song. I love that. So, Fred, we're going to say goodbye.

Do one more plug for the book. Oh, yeah. And we're going to make a request of you. I bought the book on Kindle last night, actually, when I got into Brompton. So, Fred, I drove from Queens yesterday. I come up once a month that takes me a nine-hour drive. And I was listening to you with LeftSats and doing all my Santa Jaws dreaming about my life and you and all the shit you've done. And then when I got to my sister's place in Brunton, I bought your book on the Kindle.

But I'm going to order an autograph copy, too. Fred, the only thing is, I'm the only one you can see that. You know, I mean, really, here at the home shopping network. Give the website again. I'm always trying to get the book out there, and, you know, you write a book about your life and music. You want people to read it. It's Fred Mullen Unplugged.com for autographed copies. And listen, I'm so, again, Rob, so great to hear your voice and meet you.

And Mike, thank you for this. Thank you so much. Anytime I can get a chance to talk about Santa Jaws, Part 1 or Part 2. I love that. Please. He's a frigging thrill. Amazing. Well, Fred, I'm sure your phone is ringing off the hill, off the hill, off the Dan Hill.

ringing off the hook at this time of year, everybody from, you know, Kiss 92.5 to breakfast television. They're like, we need to talk Santa John's. Oh, my God. It's the next time we need to get my brother Larry and Barry on a three-way call.

Phil passed away, sadly. But Barry and Larry will have wonderful remembrances of that as well. A homemade theater, a homemade television, deep jam. We will do that because you are a beloved FOTM. And everybody loved your episode. And not, you know, a lot of, people reached out to me to say

what a life, what a great story, what a great guest. But I have a request, this is no pressure, in this holiday season. Happy Hanukkah to you. Happy holidays to everybody listening. What if, in January when the three of us,

Bob Willett from Indy 88 and of course Rob Pruse, who's from the Spoons and Honeymoon Sweet, when we get together, what if we had a quick five to ten minute zoom with Mark Cohn? Oh, I'd love that. And then Mark would love that.

Oh. Could you make that happen for us? Yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. Let's shut it down. Move over, Carla Collins. Let's do it.

Okay. Fred, thanks for doing this, buddy. Yeah. Fred, you're amazing. Thank you so much, Fred. That was great. Thank you, Fred. And Rob wants to especially thank you for Santa John.

Especially thank you. My, from my whole life of inspiration. Live from Los Angeles. Yeah. Thank you, Fred. Bye, bye. Bye. are Cohen on this show.

Fucking right. And by the way, I was chastised on the live stream for my brutal, the way I said, King Wentzeless. I actually pictured it. I don't even know. I'm so lost on that word. I've heard that song a hundred times. Do we want to catch up just quickly before we go to mine? So, by the way, the, uh, um, thank you for doing that by the way, Mike.

I know a little in, in, listen. So I may have gone at you in this episode, but you're like a brother to me. I like you going at me. No, who is Chris Ward? Oh, Chris Ward is. No, it's not Christopher Ward. But it is, there is a Chris Ward. So Chris says he worked at Care of Foods.

Oh, yeah, please. Slow down with this one. I was going to bring this one up. Oh, okay. So yeah, Chris worked at Care of Foods who owned Swiss chalet. Yeah, yeah. And he said in the 2000s,

Toblerone jacked their prices up. Oh. And Carer Food said, fuck you, we're moving on. And that's it. And that's why they didn't want to raise the price of the festive special at the time.

Yes. So they says. It's all now. Yeah. Any words before your second jam, Bob Wollett? Well, I wasn't going to have a second beer, but you know what?

Now that we're going to have. Get into it. The premium logger? Oh, that's the go-to. This is my favorite. Now that Mark Cohen's going to be on the show, this is my favorite Christmas album of all time. Greeting cards have all been sent.

The Christmas rushes through, but I still have one wish to make a special one for you. Merry Christmas, darling. We're apart that's true. It's so easy. But I can dream, and in my dreams I'm Christmasing with you. Holidays are joyful.

There's always something new But every day is a holiday When I'm near to you The lights on my tree I wish you could see I wish it every day The logs on the fire Fill me with desire

To see you and to say That I wish you Merry Christmas Happy New Year too I've just one wish on this Christmas I wish I were with you. Chills, chills, I tell you. The Carpenters, of course. This is on a Christmas portrait,

which is my favorite Christmas album of all time. It's my dad's, my dad's, my dad played the hell out of it. Oh, my dad loved the Carpenter. Love the Carpenter. Love this album. I think it, one of the first things I ever taught my daughters to say was Karen Carpenter has the voice of an angel because we, We have to, this is my Christmas album from beginning to end. I love the production that Richard does with it.

She was just a phenomenal talent. Here's what, I have a question for you, Rob, related to this song specifically. So this song actually was written in originally recent 1970. It was, uh, it wasn't on the portrait, which came out late 70s. Who wrote it? So here's the deal. This is what I want to ask you.

Richard Carpenter composed the music for this song. Yeah. In and around that time, he was in, uh, something, he was at the California state. University in the choir there with Karen. Yeah. And the choir was run by Frank Pooler, who he was the, uh, he was the director of that choir.

He wrote the lyrics in 1946, wow, to this song. Wow. So, and then Richard took him and made it the into this song in 1970. Wow. And then they reproduced it for the, for the album. Yeah. Here's what I want to know. How to, as a songwriter, how does that work?

And I, I would, you know, the Pearl Jam does this all the time. She best Fred Mullen. When, yeah. When, you know, the big story with Pearl Jam is, you know, they, they send the four songs, the Mama Son, you know, they send the four songs to Eddie and he records all. He hears. So, and then he's got these lyrics and he puts to it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is like, like, a perfect connection. Like how, like, how does that happen when you are with, when you're with the spoons or on your own or with anybody? And you're like, I've got this thing. Yeah. And the guy's got a poem ready to go. Like, what is it? It's like the Elton John. It really, yeah. Well, you know the story with Elton and Bernie that Bernie writes all the lyrics first. And then he gives him to Elton. Ellen writes the songs. Okay, but that makes sense. These guys both had these things

and they mashed them together. Yeah, well, that's like, I mean, talking about Fred Mullen, the same story happened with Dan Hill with sometimes when we touch that Dan had written the lyrics and he gave them to the guy who wrote. Go ahead, go ahead.

The guy who wrote the music and they just come together that way. Yeah. So I brought this one. So this is Leah Michelle from Glee on Broadway star. Just to show how much better, how great Karen Carpenter's voice is.

Lady Michelle's a great singer. Listen to this. Nowhere near the gravitas, nowhere near the feeling. Look, Liam Michelle's a great singer. This sucks. Oh, yeah, so this is the Glee version of Merry Christmas, Darling. Don't even try. Like, I'm sorry, don't even try it. Karen Carpenter.

Yeah, Lacks the Gravitas. It's thinner. Yeah. Karen Carpenter's voice is perfect. Listen to this, garbage. Yeah. That's the Glee sound. And I love Leah Michelle.

I actually think she's quite talented. But the Karen Carpenter version is so much better. Oh, my God. All right. That's a. So, yeah, I just, like, you're, like, when you, like, when you have a, when you have a riff and then they, they have the lyric, like, I'm always fascinated by the, that magic. There's no, there's no rules. Yeah.

Right. So I went a couple of weeks ago, a couple of Mondays ago, I went to a little bar downtown in New York to see this guy, Simon Raymond. He's from the cocto twins. Okay. He's published a memoir. And he gave a talk, and he talked about the way that they made their records. And I don't know if you're familiar with their music at all. Cockto Twins from the 80s.

I mean, I know. Yeah. But he said, basically, they would record like four minutes. They'd set up a drum machine. They'd record like four minutes of a beat. And then they would jam on top of it and then lay more stuff. Then they'd give it to their singer. And then she would record the vocals and write the lyrics.

But complete. And they never knew what she was going to do. And they realized the format worked so well, they never questioned it. And that's how they made all their songs. And I thought that's crazy. because you're all putting trust in each other but once it works you're like okay let's just same with Elton and Bernie

that's what they did. The tragically hip in the documentary you would never come with something ready because they would be like get the fuck out of here that's not you would have to you would come with an idea whereas Pearl Jam

I always go back to that they'll have a full song almost ready and they hand it to Eddie and go go or Eddie will have a song and they'll say you know I mean in the Spoon's days like Gord sometimes would have like a bare bones idea for a song

and we'd start jammed around he'd come up with somebody Eric ideas. And then maybe I would go somewhere else musically with it. Then there was a couple of songs where I would start with like a couple of chords and he'd go, that's cool. And then we'd develop it. Ah, there you go. You should put this on your hotkeys. That's right. You really should.

But there's really no rules. Like whatever whatever strikes. The fact that this was like this guy had a poem written in the 40s. And then Richard Carpenter writes. To make that beautiful song. Yeah. And it makes to me one of the most beautiful Christmas songs ever. For sure. So that's Christmas to me. Can we get off romantic traffic already?

Don't be that guy. Come on. You, come on. Oh, I don't care. Yeah, yeah. No, no, I know. I hate it when, like, I love the fact that that guy, that, that Richard, uh, Fred Mullen, Fred, sorry, Fred Mullen, that Fred Mullen was like, anytime I can talk about that is great.

I love that. He actually doesn't, he doesn't mention Santa Jaws as much of his breath. Like literally yesterday, this young man is driving to Burlington, I suppose, from New York State, and he phones me up, or we had a phone call. Yeah. And he's like, could Fred Mullen join us as a special guest? Because I typically bring special guests, but I'm glad I'm from you guys, but I don't care, right? And I realize Fred would absolutely do this.

He's in L.A., so I didn't want to make it too early for him, but it's, what, 9 a.m. his time. He would love to talk about Santa Jaws. I can't believe it. And he does have a great book, and he has a great career. And we have to thank somebody, though. I don't know Fred Mullen without FOTM Gary Chowan telling me, Mike, you got to talk to Fred Moll. Really? Gary Chowen, it does a great job of, like, pushing these people on me that I'm unfamiliar with,

and then I realize, oh, I do need to talk to friends. We should all go get a hair done by Gary. We should go get up with me. Would Andy the barber know about that? I have a whole problem. My normal guy wasn't there, and another guy, older guy, cut my hair. He's fucked my hair up right now. I'll talk about it after.

It's not important. But I don't know what the guy's done to it. Where did he fuck it up? Well, it's just, it's not doing what it normally does. And he's one of these guys that, like, he was an older guy. He's like, who cut your hair last? I'm like, the guy who owns the shop who's not here. And he's like, oh, why?

He goes, because, you know, he makes it look thin. Oh, no. I was like, no, you made it look thin, you son of a bitch. Anyway, sorry. At least I have hair. Yes. I'm, oh, I'm very happy with that. Quick shout out to recycle my electronics.com.

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I hope RetroFestive comes back next holiday season. They're seasonal, but I love to talk about them. They have a pop-up shop, right? Don't they? Well, they're in Oakville. They're in Oakville. They've got a store.

People report back to me that they visited the store in Oakville and they loved it. And it's a family-run shop. Like, it's like it is to pop culture and Christmas stuff as a palma pasta is to Italian food. But thank you, Recycle My Electronics.com. That's where you go. If you have old electronics, old devices, old phones, pile laying up, you've got to go to recycle my electronics. com.

Find out where to drop it off to be properly recycled. And much love. Two, Nick Iienes, who does a couple of podcasts with TMDS, and he's become a great friend. He wanted me to charge $100 a ticket for TMLX21, and I did it for free, but I'm joking about the 100, but he did say we should charge for that. But Nick Aienes is a good friend,

and it's been wonderful working with him, and I thank him for his support. I think Bob will like my second festive jam. You ready, Bob? Do it. Sunday at Christmas Men won't be boys Playing with bombs

Like kids play with toys When one December Our hearts will see A world where we are free Sunday at Christmas There'll be no more When we have learned what Christmas is for

When we have found What life's free words There'll be peace on earth Someday all our dreams will come to be Some day Last week Dave Hodge came over And he kicked out a cover of needle And the damage done by Eddie Vetter

And previously, I remember Last year when Dave Hodge came over He kicked out, I think it was Eddie Vetter It might have been Pearl Jam, but it was a cover of a Tom Petty song. The Waiting or? No, it was a less known song. Wildflowers?

Wildflowers they do for sure. Eddie and the Earthlings do that. This was a song they released in 2024. That I know for sure. Did you crack open another one? I did. I'm not going to finish it. Yeah, I won't finish it.

I got a radio show to do in an hour and a half. You're filling in for Atlanta Gay, right? I am, yeah. I did. So we got to move on here. We got to move on. I got to be out here by one. But I realize that, like, Eddie can just cover anything and I like it.

Anything sounds good. Yes. He can sing the phone book. Yeah, I thought, to me, I think he's one of the greatest vocalists in the history of rock and roll. I'm biased, obviously. You know what? It made me think I should have had, please let me sleep. It's Christmas time as one of my jam.

Yes, which is a great Christmas single. For the 10 Club or whatever. This is great. So this one's from little later than that one. This one's from 2004. They recorded it at November 11th at Studio X in Seattle, Washington. But of course, so I just like this cover and I just like the song. And I thought, let me get away from the typical, you know, fairy tale of New York and all the stuff I always kick out, James Brown.

And there's a lot of go-toes I kind of do. I like that Tom Waits. This has a good sound to it, though. Like the back, the music is really good, like the groove and stuff. That would be Matt Cameron on the drums for that. It's super cool. Pearl Jam 2004. You doesn't get much better than that.

Okay. So just a little bit about this song, for those who don't know, just a little bit about this song. That Sunday at Christmas Men won't be boys Playing with bombs like kids play with toys One warm December Our hearts will see A world where men are free

Some day at Christmas There'll be no warmth That is a young Stevie Wonder Wow. I know. It sounds like a woman, right? Yeah. Wow.

I know. So Stevie Wonder, this is from his first Christmas album, which was released in 1967. Already at 67, he was on his eighth studio album, by the way. He was 17. That's crazy. Written by this song written by Ron Miller and Brian Wells and produced by Henry R. Cosby. It was originally a standalone single, 1966. Wow.

But now it's, I would call this a modern holiday classic. That's what I would refer to this one has. So it's a Stevie Wonder song for those who don't know that Pearl Jam was covering, but a lot of people might know a different version. So let me start that version. Played with bombs like kids, play with toys. One warm, December.

that voice of course belongs to a young Michael Jackson This is the Jackson 5 And this is from the Jackson 5 Christmas album Which came out in 1970 And young Michael delivers such an exceptional vocal here Like you thought 17 was young

I know Come over, buddy. It's crazy. It's amazing to think that when he was that young, he was probably inspired, of course, by Stevie's version, and his family were like, just try it, just give it a shot.

And he could totally do it. Jeez, holy smoke. So a lot of people know the Jackson 5 version of Someday at Christmas. But in more modern times, only 10 years ago, it kind of had a resurgence because of Apple.

So Apple did a TV ad, which had a new version, which was a duet. Let's see if any of you can name the names on this duet here. Let's get this rock in here and then we'll move on to our final jams.

Get Bob back to Indy. I can give you a little Eddie Vedder, Stevie Wonder connection. Ooh! Go ahead. Okay. I didn't know if you wanted it now or not. Give it to me straight, doctor.

I can take it. On their last album, there's a song called Waiting for Stevie. And Waiting for Stevie is about literally waiting for Stevie Wonder because Andrew Watt, who produced the Eddie Vetter in the Earthlings album, as well as the last

Dark Matter album. They were, they brought in a whole bunch of people for that Earthlings album, including people like, like there was who else, who was on it? Hang on, just quick, like Chad Smith, Ringo Starr, a whole bunch of these are on,

are on that album. And, oh, and Paul McCartney's drummer, Abe, is on it, but also Stevie Wonder played harmonica on it. And so Stevie Wonder was supposed to come to the studio at 4 p.m. He didn't show up until 11 p.m. And while

they were waiting for Stevie, him and Andrew Wattwer, they wrote the song. That's funny. That ended up being a Pearl Jam song.

Wow. I'm finding that right now. There's a Stevie Pearl Jam, mind blow. Who can name this voice? Maybe not in time for you. What, you're in the Whitehouse?

20, no, 2015. Andrej. Who is it? Andrew Day. I recognize the Vibrato. Who is it?

So it's a duet because here's... Andrew Day? Yeah, Andrea Day. Andrew Day. Oh. So, yeah. Who's Andre Day? This is her.

Who is it? Well, this is Stevie because it's a duet. Yeah. Oh, but who's... I don't know. So this is Stevie. We'll get back to Andrew. Oh, you know what she's a British singer.

Oh, you know what she sounds like? You know who is going to... was supposed to be huge, never have Emily Sandy. Do you remember her? Oh, I remember the name. Emil, Emil, Sandy. Yeah. I remember that name.

She had a huge one song, album, and then it went away. It sounds like her a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Who can name this artist? Somebody who sings close to the mic. One December, our hearts will see a world where we are free. Is that Lizzo? Is that Lizzo?

Okay, there, now I hear right that. She's going to play the flute. Yes, she can't. Okay, so I think it's a great jam. You don't always hear kicked out on these shows. So I'm just trying to pick up different songs than I kicked out with the Pandemic Friday Boys when I kicked out my favorite. So no fairy tale of New York today. No.

What do you want to say before your final jam, Rob Pruss? I think all I want to say is we should just listen to the whole, sort of like the Santa Jaws. It's a little crazy. My theme is apparently like... I can't listen to the whole thing. Yeah, you can. It's six and a half minutes. Is it really?

We've got to get Bob back. Come on. Let's play a bit of it. People can find it. Okay. Six and a half minute, I guess. My next one is so short. It's funny.

Good. All my trouble seems so far away. Now it looks as though we're here to stay. I believe in yesterday. Don't forget. Christmas is coming. Oh, that reminds me. Let's do a Christmas record.

Let's do a Christmas record. Yeah, what should we say? That's a good idea. We've got to thank everyone. Remember to think. You can't add to live too much because, you miss. Well, thank you, Johnny. It's been a nice to know you.

Got to thank everyone for all the presents this year. Yes. All for buying the records. Especially the chewed-up pieces of chewing gum and the playing cards made out of knickers. On behalf of John and I, George speaking, I'd like to thank you for all the Christmas cards and presents and birthday cards and presents and everything, too, as well.

On behalf of George and I'd just like to thank you for the... and all the rest of it. Thank you. Well, Ringo, what have we done this year? I said you haven't shaved again. Well, look at Bob. Not Bob. I'm looking at Rob.

You guys have same name, so it's very confusing for me. You understand that, right? I feel like it just met you. Rob, so people can find this, obviously. Oh, my God, yeah. So tell us... So the Beatles for their fan club

every year they would release a Christmas album. Christmas single. Just like Pearl Jam did the same thing. Yeah, yeah. Ten Club is probably modeled after this people. Sure, okay. So, Jerry Levittan. Who was at TMLX-21?

Exactly. Starting in 1963, they made a 45 where they would, basically, they would get into the studio. They would just gather around a microphone. And it's just them like riffing. That's it. Yeah, that's all it is. So this fit on a 45? Yeah.

Did you own this? No. Oh, no. If he owned it now, he can retire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no. 63, 64, 65, 68, 68, 69, I think was the last one they did. Wow. And every year there was 10.

The band's gone by 70. I'd love to hear. the difference between the first one and the last one. I'm telling you. It's unbelievable. And what's so cool is that they're just in the studio together are gathered around a microphone. So Bob Reference Let Me Sleep, which is one of my favorite holiday songs actually. And that is a Christmas

single by Pearl Jam. Yeah. And it's great. This is the Beatles. This is the Beatles. So this is what year... This is in Pearl Jam? This is in 65. Wait, this isn't Pearl Jam? No, this is the Beatles. So this is 65. And do they sing ever? Oh, here we go. but a different I mean

Copyright I can't say that All right What are we going to do What's out to copyright? We're out to copyright Oh that's funny This is great

I don't know this Before podcast This is what they did Well this is what I was just about to say This wouldn't be special now Because we have so much access to everything And every Like we see so much behind the scenes stuff

We see We hear something Like Eddie will go on smart list Or whatever for a now whatever yeah like it just doesn't have the this would be this would be like like gold to you if you were a fan

like you'd be like oh my gosh yeah you had nothing outside of the songs you heard yeah so this is them listen here if you can't find that drop it it's all crazy it's like yeah queen and I forgot

they never brought it nice can I say something about this song yeah all Lang sang so I remember oh of course it's sings it at New Year's Eve, but it's a wonderful life

like the great scene at the end, that's the song they sing, and then every year I'm now watching, it's a wonderful life, and I love it and I can't wait, and that's a big part of it is that song. But then I decided I need to start catching up with some classics I missed, so I watched Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. No, is it Mr.

Smith goes to Washington? Yeah, okay. So another Capra film, same guy. That song is in the climax of this movie. Seriously, it's everywhere. Went back again. So I'm watching it. And it's great.

And it's a Jimmy Stewart at his most Jimmy Stewart. And he's like, oh, yeah. Like, I can see some parallels and that. But I couldn't believe that the same song plays a huge role in Mr. Smith goes in Washington. It's a very important song for like that kind of end of the year. But now, we only think of that song for New Year's now. I know.

But in, it's a wonderful life. It's the Christmas. It's Christmas. That's Christmas Eve. That's right. That's true. Okay. This is really cool.

So, so if you want to learn more about this, they're all on YouTube, of course. And they're just so interesting. because they're such, it's like all experimental, there's like bits and pieces of songs. They're basically, each guy goes around and talks about their year, and they say, like, we'd like to thank the fans for supporting us and sending us greetings, whatever. We'd like to thank young

Rob Proust in Burlington. Exactly. And they're, like, just doing bits of Christmas songs, and it's super cool. Sir Jerry. No, he was later. No, it's later. That's right. But really, it's, I've always loved, like, novelty records, and I feel like, this, everyone on my... Santa Jaws is a novelty record.

So is Bob and Doug. Yeah. He's a novelty guy. When are we going to kick out the novelty jam? So the very... Haven't we done novelties? Have we? I don't know. Maybe not.

No, I don't think so. We actually... I don't know. You have the next... So Bob's birthday, his 50th is coming up in January. He's picking the topic. He might have already done it. He already did already do it, but I could change it if you guys want.

No, don't change it. We don't want you to do anything. You had a good topic. It's my birthday months. Yeah. So you pick the topic for January, but that means, Rob, you'll be picking the topic for February. All right. You could kick out novelty jams.

Are you trying to see a topic. Swamy? Well, I don't have influence over you. All right, thank you, Robert. This is the final

jam now of 2025 for Bob Wileck. Yes. Who's on a hundred indie stations as we speak. And counting. Right. Right.

You all on Christmas Day. But once a year. I am when it comes it brings good cheer. So don't Christmas Day I'm the Christmas Day

And I fade it there Charlie Hey Put the red lights off This is Johnny Rhythm Just saying Good night To you is all And God bless you

All right well That's got it done then What are we going to do now This is way better than Wonderful Christmas time It's better than walking in Memphis All right What say you Bob Wollett

Ah, this is a tradition in my house It has been for many years We recorded it on a VCR on our VHS And I watched it My dad even cut the commercials out Like he watched it live He's got a super Toronto connection too

Oh a huge Canadian connection Go for it Silver and gold Silver and gold Everyone One wishes for silver and gold. How do you measure its worth? Just by the pleasure it gives here on earth.

Silver and gold, silver and gold. Is that clarinet? Obo. Oh, it's an elbow. Silver and gold decorations on every Christmas tree. Silver and gold Silver and gold Mean so much more when I see

Silver and gold decoration On every Christmas gold and silver Silver and gold Carl Bannis is still alive. I just want to throw that. I just realized that the other day.

Do you know this name Carl Bannis? He was like way back in the day. He was a radio personality. I think he's on 10.50 channel, whatever. But he's got a voice in this program because it's got such a Toronto connection. Yes. So this is the Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer,

television special for 1964. It was written in New York City. Japan is where they did the animation. It was recorded in England. That's Burrell Lives, of course. I love this. is probably one, like top three Christmas specials are of all time for me personally.

That's the Burlives version. Well, I think it was written for this one, actually. But here's an interesting part. So this, of course, is the story of Hermie the elf, who wants to be a dentist. He's like, I just don't like making toys. So the guy who played, the guy who played Hermie, his name was Paul Sol.

Oh, yeah, Paul Solz. Right. Canadian. Toronto is. And just passed away in 21. Not that long ago. He was on television and that my 90-year-old roommate was a show that he... I watched that.

And he was also the voice of the amazing Spider-Man in the 70s. Right. Just to give you a... And then technically, a lot of the music... So because of CanConn rules, if you played something off of this and it was sung by a Canadian, because it's pre-702 or whatever, it would count as Cancone. That's amazing. Clarice, the female voices are all Canadian.

It's amazing. I love it. I remember his name on so many cartoons in those days, too. Paul Soles, yeah. Can I give you a Soul's mind blow real quick? His cousin is Bernard Cowan, who people called Bunny, whose two sons have been on Toronto Mike, one of whom Ellie Cowen,

the whole episode was about his father. We played Chris. Because his father was also a voice on Spider-Man, the animated series from the 60s. And also there was a, you might, You might remember this, Rob, maybe. Max, the 2,000-year-old mouse. Does that ring up?

Probably before your time. Probably before your time. But, yeah, Paul Solz, and it was a cousin of Bunny Cowan. Paul Kligman was a voice on it, and he was an actor here in Toronto. The whole bunch, he played... Carl Ben, Danis was in there. Yeah, he played the head elf and a bunch of the misfit toys. Wow.

So, you know that term, what lives rent-free in your head? You know, this thing lives rent-free in my head? I think that's what this clip is here This is a thing that lives rent-free in my head And people refer to it a lot Because it's a clip where Hermie and Rudolph meet for the first time And they say they're going to be independent together Right?

But I just I have my kids thinking about it all the time Okay, maybe I have them out of order I'll play the independent clip now Okay, sorry about that Right now I'm just an elf But I don't need anybody I'm independent

Yeah Me too I'm, whatever he said. Independent. Hey, what do you say? We both be independent together. Which is funny, but for me... It's a deal.

The way he says, independent. Lives in my head, rent-free. I cannot, and I work for indie radio. So, in my head, all the time, independent. It's like, there's an episode of The Simpsons where Lisa suggests recycling to, Mr. Burns and they go into his brain of all the words. And he's like, he sees

ragamuffin. He's like, oh, my little ragged. And he says, recycling. But he has no idea he's ever heard that word. I love how cute the independent. I just wanted to share that thought of something that lives rent free in my head. Speaking of Brent free, that's what Santa Jaws is for me. Yeah. Five golden rings with fingers.

Yeah. Well, I have something coming up that ties in nicely with my last jam. Really? I am nicely with Bob's and then. I think my other clip is just another clip of the song with Burrell lives talking. I think. Oh wow. I just like the actual version from the yeah so they yeah this is from the show itself

on every Christmas tree I just like this part what's a Christmas tree without tensil and pretty silver and gold decorations can't really call it a Christmas tree now can you and think of all the fun and joy that would be lost on Christmas morning

if all the young folks didn't get to see that sparkling happy tree Happy Tree So there you go I just wanted to have Because I like The version There's a version

Without him doing that talking Yeah Yeah you know what That's Christmas These three songs that I picked Are Christmas to me Yeah That's my

These are my personal picks Festive Yeah I actually have I'm gonna post something later We put it We decorated our house last night And I have

I have some Talk about retro festive I have a bunch of tinsel Look at there's tinsel Garland Look at this packaging Oh, love it.

It's from 1964. It says right on... It's made of asbestos. Look, 1964, made in Canada, and I still put it up every year. Where did you... It was my grandmother's. Yeah, you just kept it. Love it.

Sorry, 1968, sorry. That's amazing. And I've kept the box. It goes back in the box every year. It is my favorite Christmas. I love it. Look at this kid. That kid probably died of cancer because of that ad.

Oh, my God. I love it. Hey, quick, I want to excise, I shouted it out. Ellie, no, please, that's what we're here for. Ellie Cowan, of course, who did the episode about his dad, Bernard Cowan, cousin of Paul Souls, who he just referenced here. But I do want to shout out Rob Cowan, who was a disc jockey in this market. In fact, I remember my chat with Rob Cowan Mess.

He's the first guy to say, I think he's the first guy to say the fan 1430. Like he was at Music of Your Life 1430 when it switched to all sports and whenever that was early 90s. And Rob Cowan was on the air, I think. when it flipped to the fan 1430. So Rob Cowan, who's a good friend of Hebsie, Mark Hebscher, who was at TMLX 21,

signing books on Saturday. But yeah, you got to check out this episode of the Bernard Cowan because not only, like the Rudolph and everything, but also in Spider-Man, we mentioned,

but Rocket Robin Hood. Yes. Wow. Hey, work! Right? No, is this? No, yeah, that's what, no, Rocket Robin Hood is Hercules.

Right, no, I'm taking Hercules. But they were both back-to-back. Yes, they were. were, I'm sorry. He's watching back to back. They're all the same. Was he also on, Hey, Davey?

No, but I did reference that at TMLXA1. Yes, you did. Because Commander Tom, he used to watch on Commander Tom. But Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer, the great Christmas special we've been talking about. Bernard Cowan played the character Bumble, Clarice's father,

and the spotted elephant. So those three voids. Did you say that? Okay, my point. No, no, no. I said various. I do, yeah. So, there we go.

We're at the end of the show. I know exactly how I want to close, but let's start playing a song that I just love at this. time of year. How can you not? Well, you never gave you my gifts, Rob Proust. Did you want to do it?

It's a grump tree. It's actually... It looks like the Grinch. Is it live? Yeah, it lives. Is that a real tree? It is. It's a lemon cypress tree. But it's cute because it just looks like the Grinch. It's called the grump tree.

But where did you get that? I got it Trader Joe's before I left yesterday. We don't know what that is. That's an enemy territory. It's an enemy territory. But it's a cute thing. It's an illegally imported plant. You could plant it and it would grow the border.

with that? Yeah, yeah. I didn't even mention it. You have Nexus, don't you? No. Oh, you don't have Nexus? No.

Jesus. You have to go through the border every time? Every time. But Nexus doesn't let you bring... I never thought about it. You're not allowed to bring... It's an American lemon

cypress tree from America. Actually, it's a cypress tree. Well, thank you so much. If you plant it, it'll grow like 30 feet tall. Or just keep it like a grinch and throw it away. No, thank you, man. And I got a little gift for Bob as well. This is for picking up my booze yesterday.

It's a little jingly, jangly, thank you so much. Oh, this stuff is crazy. Yeah, it's good. The bark? Oh, this is, like, I'm going to make myself ill on this. Save, saver it. Oh, it's so hard.

430 calories in this little thing. Oh, it's like a mix of everybody's favorite candy treats. Thank you, sir. That's amazing. Also from Trader Joe's. I'm going to bring this into the radio station, and I'm going to auction it off. Oh, the people love the Trader Joe's up. Really?

Oh, geez. We know what you think of walking in Memphis, but what are your thoughts on Vince Garaldi, Rob Bruce? I love Vince Goralty. Everything he's done. I mean, of course, Charlie Brown music is fantastic. But, like, his other music is amazing as well. So this, of course, is Vince Goraldi and Lee Mendelssohn.

They composed this, they wrote this song. Christmas Time is here. Lee was like the producer of the show. He was like... Yeah, he produced... This was 1965. That's a good year for me. CBS television special, a Charlie Brown Christmas.

I'm sorry, I just wanted to point out that the ball... Did the ball come up? No, no, it's held on by a roach clip. Oh, good. Extra use. It's amazing. Shout up to kindling. Shout out to kindling.

dot CA. Hope they come back in 2020. I hope they're too. I kept the sign of. That's so funny. I love that. So there's a couple of versions of this song because you have this version which has people from choristers, I guess they're called, from the St. Paul's Episcopal, Episcopal. Like Joe Piscopold.

St. Paul's Episcopal Church. The Joe Episcopal Church. You know, Joe Piscopo will live forever because of the Simpsons. There's a, in that episode with, uh, the baby on board, I think that one of those throwback episodes, Joe, you know, Homer says a line about how Joe Piscopal was making America laugh or whatever when he dates the, uh, the episode, but okay, so it's in California. And then there's a version, which is just instrumental. So you get both versions, uh, on a Charlie Brown Christmas.

Love it. I love that song and I will just quickly just play another can con cover because, uh, we play a lot of cancone in the show. I went and had drinks with a friend of my. who I used to work with at Proud FM and they really do the like the jazz thing to go to the wrecks and stuff like that and I want to like jazz

like you know like but it's hard sometimes that's how I feel like walking in Memphis like that wow how dare you you know he's our special guest on January I can't wait I can't wait but how do we just do five minutes with the man we're going to want to do 90

I know it's true deep dive who do you think this is Sarah McLaughlin yeah She's back. Sure. Yeah, you know,

the funny thing is, though, Canadian radio's not touching her except for us. Really? Yep. Because her songs aren't, her songs aren't Cancone.

What? Well, that happened to Brian Adams. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of Brian Adams. How is she not Cancun though? Because she didn't, he didn't write the,

she didn't write one of the two, like she has to write two of the four. Yeah, Maple, you know this. So, I did an episode of Bob about this. Yeah. Yeah. So she didn't, whatever it is.

Producer, so I don't know if she wrote the music. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, she clearly didn't. No, she's just the artist. Yeah.

So she has just artists. So she didn't write the music on this album, or at least these singles. Everything I do, I do it for you. Yeah. Oh, that's not Can-Con. Not Can-Con. Yeah, yeah. Which is why radio stations will just play heaven instead or something, because that is Can-Con.

Well, yeah, there's a whole bunch. We don't have a whole CRTC catch-up. We could have a CRTC conversation. Can-Conn jams. They're, oh, Jesus. Half of our dance are. He would be enough. Like, it would be, have extra points for E.

They want W. It's the writers. It's so can. They want the W. That's where the money is, right? It's the W. So, which is fine. I don't like, but the problem is, radio is up against it.

TV is up against it because we're dealing against non-regulated entities. And until you loosen the regulations, we are handcuffed. And their version of, of fixing them is like, oh, we made it easier for you to apply for a new radio station. We made it easier for you to do your monthly bill. Like, fuck off.

And now companies can own more than two FM. Yeah. Oh, yeah. They made that easier. Yeah. Yeah. But they didn't change anything about, from the 1986 fucking regulations. Now they've been updated in 91.

I get it in 2000. But they still didn't change the core. They didn't change the core part, which is Indy88 has to play 40% Canadian music. And 50% I think of that or 20% of that has to be emerging Canadian artists. Emerging. Emerging. So can't have a hit. We have to play.

on hit radio. This is all public knowledge. This is not... So anyways, I look, I love Canadian artists. We should be playing Canadian artists. Well, this is an Australian artist, a Japanese Australian artist named Joji, and he

samples that song. Christmas time is here for his trip hop song. You suck, Charlie. Oh, really? This is a little bit of you suck Charlie, but I know how I want to end this episode, okay? Firstly, I want to thank you to... Oh, thank you. Great toast. Happy holidays.

All year. This is our final... Thank you for another great year. It was fun. Our final gathering of 2025. So happy holidays. Merry Christmas. And happy New Year's, I guess. See you next year. See, there's always a chance I see Bob again in 2020.

But, Rob, you'll be in the enemy territory. I really want to come see you. My wife won't let me. Oh, good for her. Love that woman. She won't let me. I'm like, I want to go. I could drive there.

She's like, the car's not reliable. It died last time you went to Nashville. I know, but it's not died. No. Anyways, oh, that's how we're going to close. I was just going to say, my daughter, my 10-year-old introduced me to Lofi Christmas music. And although she's 10, she goes, yeah, I just, you know, sometimes when I just want to chill, I just listen to Lofi Christmas music.

It's all on Lofi, just Lofi. Lofi, I was like, you know what? That's awesome. She has her own Spotify account. She has a little, oh, yeah. Well, I have a family pack. So everybody gets their own because they were messing up my algorithm. I have two Spotify accounts.

Hey, are we religious? Anybody religious on this program? Are you religious, Rob? spiritual but not religion. But do you believe in, like, do you belong to a religion and organized religion? No. Okay, so. I'm a hopeful agnostic. Yeah. He's hopeful agnostic. I'm a hopeful agnostic

who was married by my wife's great uncle, Monsignor Mo Polito. Shout out to Uncle Phil, who's listening right now, probably, and now he will be listening. I hope so. And, you know, so I have strong ties to the Catholic Church. I have strong ties to the Anglican Church because I went to Anglican Church until I was a kid, until I was a teenager, but I'm not a member of any particular sect. I just hope. That's all.

Okay, so I'm a... What about you? Raised for? I was raised Catholic. I went to Catholic high school, didn't you? Went to Catholic high school. Yeah, Michael Power, St. Joe's, Catholic High School. I even went to St. Michael's College at U. U.F.T. Like, so I'm still in... My wife was in St. Mike's College, too. Well, she's 20 years younger than me, but... She's not 20 years younger. But the religions don't matter as far as the spirituality goes.

Yeah, but I got none of it. I got none of it. I got none of it. Yeah, but you get it without wanting it. You don't get a choice. okay well this is a long one way of saying so I declare that up front that I don't believe in any of it

okay I don't believe in any of it but I'm still moved and touched by a certain monologue by Linus in Charlie Mancus

so I'm actually gonna play this one minute and 18 seconds in its entirety because it moves me it affects me and I don't believe any of it

so I find that an interesting that's an interesting dynamic that's a you know physiologic You also, but you know what? If you don't believe in gravity, it doesn't matter.

Yes, because gravity exists. That's right. So go on and play Linus and pretend it doesn't exist. Isn't there anyone who knows what Christmas is all about? Sure, Charlie Brown. I can tell you what Christmas is all about. Lights, please. Lights please?

Waiting for it. No edits. And there were in the same country shepherds. abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night, and lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them. The glory of the Lord showed round about them, and they were sore afraid, and the angel said unto them, fear not. For behold, I bring you tidings of great joy,

which will be to all people. For unto you is born this day in the city of David, a savior, which is Christ the Lord. And this shall be a sign unto you. He shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger and suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host

praising God and saying glory to God in the highest and on earth peace good will toward men that's what I'm going to turn in. That's what Christmas is all about Charlie Brown. I could tighten that up a little.

No, I didn't want to edit it. That's how it aired. Beautiful. 1965, that's the most religious propaganda I've ever heard. It's amazing. It aired on CBS, and it airs every single December, and most of us watch it. I'm three months older than Charlie Brown Christmas. Happy birthday.

Thank you. I was a wise man. I was a wise man in kindergarten once for a play. Well, you're a wise man today. That's going to be the title of my book once I was a wise man. There's that scene in the wire. He goes, Cuddy was a man back in the day. And then he goes, Slim Charles goes, he's a man now.

I would say Rob Proust was a wise man back in the day. He's a wise man now. What's the feedback on the new closing? Any feedback? Like, it's fine. I didn't get a lot of feedback. I was glad that Stoen listened to it. He enjoyed it.

Yeah, he didn't know we had a new one. No, he was surprised, though. I like listening to him, listen to it. And I like, I have been doing that because it's fairly fresh still. But with certain guests, I've been having them react in real time. I think I did. Yeah, I appreciate that. Mike Stafford, maybe?

Yeah. But I like people. another one next year. Next November, we'll get another one. No, I think that'll be the annual tradition. Every November, we get a new X-show by Rob Prutz based on songs that may be percolated over the previous years. Maybe sometimes when we touch, we'll make an appearance last year. Maybe walking in Memphis. Maybe. Which, by the way, your wife has chimed in. You're wrong.

I know. It's not the first time she said that. No. No. Gips. Hey, that was fun, gentlemen. This is really good. So next, yeah, it is, I have an epic birthday next month. and uh what's the date January 18 18 18 um uh I have I have a significant birthday Leslie Leslie Villian says I should do

hits from 1976 yeah but I'm not going to Oh boo It was a good year for me John and Kiki D don't go break in your heart was the number one song Favorite songs from 1976 There were so many I don't want that I like this topic I don't want that

I could do 12 hours on 1976 Well it's Bob's on you can do that The next I know February that's my show Yeah I don't want to kick up the gym 50 year old songs is fine I'm going to be 50 years old. And I'm angry about it. So we're doing metal. We're doing metal. I know.

Metal jams, baby. I got it. Metal. You mean heavy metal. Any metal. Metal. Metal. The word is metal. You do what you want with it. I've already got two out of three. Oh yeah. When you said it last month, I already had two out of them. That's me, right? Not Mark Daly. That's easy. I did a good. You did a really good one. Yeah, because it sounds like Mark Daly to me. I added a little. Oh, you. You did that. Okay. Well, don't boo me, Leslie. She booed me. And that. That brings us to the end of our one thousand. 1,810th show. Go to tronomomike.com for all your Toronto mic needs. Much love to all who made this possible. That is retro festive, Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta,

Nick Iienies, Recycle My Electronics.C.A. and Ridley Funeral Home. See, oh my goodness, I have the sister of Taller Cranston visiting tomorrow to talk about her brother, Clarendston? Tallar Cranston. Is it his sister Talia? I don't know what I mean. Delipa.

Oh, okay. I like Talia. See you all then.