Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Festivus with Elvis: Toronto Mike'd #1175
Episode Date: December 23, 2022In this 1175th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike is joined by his buddy Elvis as they celebrate Festivus by kicking out their favourite songs by supergroups. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by ...Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.
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It's nothing. It's a card from my dad.
What is it?
Wait.
Dear son, happy festivus?
What is festivus?
It's nothing. It's nothing.
When George was growing up, his father hated all the commercial and religious aspects of Christmas,
so he made up his own holiday.
Oh, and another piece of the puzzle falls into place.
All right.
And instead of a tree, didn't your father put up
an aluminum pole? Jerry, stop it.
And then weren't there feats of strength that always ended up
with you crying? I can't take it anymore.
I'm going to work. You have me now?
That's your message.
And now, it's time
for Your Blog
Sucks. I know And now it's time for your blog sucks. When my teeth bite down, I can see their blood A thousand men who've come and gone
Now we grieve, cause now it's gone
Things were good when we were young
It's a sad mistake
Come on, come on, was it right to leave?
Come on, come on, will I ever learn?
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Joining me today to celebrate Festivus is my friend Elvis.
First, I'd like to say hello to chris w i think his name was um he was
a guy who was a fan of mine or our podcast together no no no his name was rob j what
what are you talking about your blog sucks fan no no. There was a guy on your TMLX whatever.
TMLX11.
You brought him on and he said he listened and he was a fan of when we got together.
Okay, what was his name again?
Chris W., I think.
So Chris W., shout out to you.
But hello, Mike.
Hello, Elvis.
Good to see you.
Good to see you.
It's been a few weeks, which is weird.
We hadn't seen each other for months and then we saw each other twice in the same month.
You and I co-hosted the TMLX 11 recording at Palmas Kitchen.
Yes.
Only a few weeks ago.
It's crazy.
I missed you, but I wanted to say thanks for doing that because you were great.
Thank you.
Although.
I don't agree, but thank you.
I had at least one complaint.
There was a commenter on your blog.
About the swears?
About the swears. So great. I had at least one complaint. There was a commenter on your blog. About the swears? About the swears.
So great.
I love it.
People's ears are so gentle.
So I will just warn.
I want to warn.
How's that?
Well, I mean, you know, Merry fucking Christmas.
I'm in the Festivus spirit of things.
So perhaps I'll take it a little bit easy today.
spirit of things so perhaps i'll take it a little bit easy today uh are you uh so let me just uh like fill everybody in on the fact that we record this did you get a coffee for yourself i did i
think that did you drink it already yeah well no i had an espresso okay but put that no don't
crack it open on the mic can i open it on the mic on the mic so elvis has opened up a canuck pale
ale everybody courtesy of great lakes of brewery of Great Lakes of Brewery.
So not a criticism at all, because you know I love Great Lakes.
I really do.
But I didn't realize they did home delivery.
In the GTA.
In the GTA.
And then I checked while I was at TMLX, and they don't deliver to North Oshawa.
That's not the GTA.
But totally understandable.
They do Pickering, though, I'm sure.
Yeah, they do GTA home delivery,
but you have to go to,
although I was just on the,
this is my second episode today,
so I'm trying to set the table
to tell people that we,
every year you visit on Festivus,
and we record on Festivus.
Festivus, as we know,
is December 23rd,
but as we speak, Elvis, it's December 22nd.
It's sacrilege.
Why are you here?
I know the answer.
Is there such a thing as sacrilege of festivals?
I guess, I don't know.
Why are you here the evening of December 22nd
for an episode I won't even drop until December 23rd?
Well, I'm looking at my phone and it there is a
winter storm warning until 11 11 friday december 23rd so we decided to play it safe we knew that
the people needed this they need this every year people look forward to this episode they do you
know and even if no one does look forward to this i'm kind of i don't even know what they do i look
forward to it i really enjoy shooting the shit with you for excuse me a couple of hours i did so you drop an f-bomb
you belch on the microphone sorry it's been a crazy call yourself a broadcast and it's been
a crazy day anyway i'll get into it i'll get into it but uh yeah i couldn't we couldn't miss this
okay we couldn't miss this right no no i'm glad you're doing this because yeah uh i was like and
i don't like buy into the hyperbole or whatever, but, you know, I'm also like a reasonable guy.
So I would say, you know, based on what I've been reading, tomorrow's a good day to like not make a big drive on the 401, right?
Right.
So I saw the term generational storm.
Yeah.
And then I go into Environment Canada
and say, okay, so it's going to rain a lot.
Right? Because it's going to be above zero rain.
And then at some point it's going to be... For you.
Yeah, I only looked at Toronto. Right. Then
outside the city is going to be like lots of snow
and stuff. Okay, so you get... Do you have snow
right now?
On my lawn? Yeah. Yes.
Yes. Because you notice there's no snow
here. Yes, we have snow.
That was my concern was I couldn't anticipate the variation of weather from where I'm coming
from to here and everything in between.
There's too many variables.
And the temps going to plummet at some point, like, I don't know when, but like, I don't
know.
It's more morning, I think, at least for me.
Like 11 or so.
So you're going to have all this rain and then it's going to get down to like minus
eight.
And I learned this in primary school, Elvis.
Stay with me here.
But when water freezes, it turns to ice.
And you don't want to be driving on ice.
No.
Even with snow tires, you're fucked.
Smart guy.
Okay.
Yeah.
Did you hear some places in the States are like minus 40, 50 degrees?
It's like that in Monica's homeland of Edmonton. It is like minus 45 degrees. it's like that in monica's uh homeland of edmonton it is like
minus 45 degrees yeah because they're getting it they got it like the last couple of days right
did you know that's like the temperature where like celsius and fahrenheit marry they get
together at like minus 40 i thought it was more like 20 oh why do i think it's like minus it's
but yeah you're definitely right in in the minuses I thought it was sooner than that, but it could be, it could be that.
But yeah,
they definitely get to
be closer.
You're the one who
works with the Americans.
Okay.
Yes.
All right.
So,
thank you for coming tonight
so we could get Festivus in.
I hear from people like,
because this week I do,
what did I do?
I did Toast
and then I did
Christmas Crackers
Volume 5
with Ed Conroy.
I was going to point out, Ed gets his Great Lakes beer in the Port Perry Loblaws.
Oh, really?
He goes to his Loblaws in Port Perry, and he picks up his Great Lakes beer.
I don't normally go to the grocery stores to buy my beer, but I should check to see if it's there.
He says they have Octopus Wants to Fight there and the Canuck to buy my beer, but I should check to see if it's there.
They have Octopus Wants to Fight there and the Canuck Pale Ale.
Oh, I should go.
Maybe I'll check out my Loblaws.
It's actually not a Loblaws.
It's a Great Canadian Superstore, I think it's called.
Oh, wow.
Mine's a No Frills.
Okay, but no beer there.
I'm going to crack open my burst and join you with the Great Lakes.
It's kind of funny that it's much harder to get beer than it is weed.
How far we've come slash maybe not gone far at all in the last three years.
Talk about turning things upside down.
Have you started smoking any weed?
No.
No, you don't have any interest in smoking?
Actually, I remember the last time, but it's more than a decade ago.
Okay, will you do me a favor, though?
If you decide one day you're going to become a pothead.
I don't even know where Canna's Cabana is.
There's probably a Canna Cabana in Oshawa.
I'll bet you if we search that up.
I'll do it.
Now, there's some cities where you can have it,
like Mississauga, for example.
You can't? How come?
They made a city bylaw
where you can't sell cannabis in the city.
So like,
Canna Cabana is not,
there's no cannabis stores in Mississauga.
Really?
And I think Brampton might be the same.
They must have put them all in Oshawa.
Well, Toronto sure has them.
Toronto sure has them.
It's crazy.
I will quickly here,
since we're drinking our Great Lakes
and celebrating Festivism,
we have a lot of ground to cover.
We're going to kick out jams.
I'm going to give you guys the theme in a minute.
It's kind of an exciting theme. So this is going to be kind of like
a toast-esque, I guess.
But Canna Cabana
will not be undersold on cannabis
or cannabis accessories. What did
you learn? Is there a Canna Cabana in Oshawa?
No, there's one in Ajax, which
would, I'm still going, there's a lot of them.
There's 140 across the country.
Get out of here! And growing, yeah.
So I keep reading about cannabis shops are shutting down
because there's too many.
But Andy Palalas at Canna Cabana,
who I talked to this morning,
tells me they're growing.
There's got to be some sort of consolidation
that's going to happen, right?
Now, these guys have...
I don't know.
These guys clearly have like a lot of...
They're high tide.
That's the, like, if you want to invest in the stock market,
you invest in high tide.
High tide owns Canna Cabana.
I think the closest it looks like for me is Ajax.
But Ajax isn't all that bad.
I can make the trip to Ajax for these guys.
Elvis, I'll tell you this.
You don't have to smoke it.
A lot of people don't want to smoke stuff.
But you can drink it and you can eat it.
And I will just let the listenership know
that there's going to be an episode in late
January with Andy and I.
It's called the Edibles episode and
everything you wanted to know about edibles but were afraid
to ask. And it's going to start with me. Are you going to take them?
Yeah, at the beginning. So he's going to give me some
edibles at the beginning. Then during
the recording, you will check in
and see how I'm doing. When was the last time you
partook in cannabis if you
don't
mind yeah uh at um the black crows concert in like july gotcha edibles as well or oil or what
uh no that was uh i was smoking a fatty with canada kev and my buddy stew stone yeah and
the funny thing is that like i don't smoke a lot of weed.
There was coffee involved?
Usually I start low and I go slow.
But Kanaka Ben at this concert, he just passed me this. It looked like it was a freaking sandwich or whatever.
Like it was a baguette.
He passed this baguette.
And I just said, went in Rome and I just enjoyed it
because I was biking home anyways.
Hey, I have a couple of questions for you before we pay respect to the first FOTMs ever
to pass away.
This is the calendar year 2022 in which an FOTM died for the first time and then a second
one died.
We lost two prior to 2022.
We have never lost an FOTM.
Okay.
And by FOTM, I don't mean the listenership because sadly we have lost many a listener.
Oh, you mean like a guest?
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Fair enough.
Are you still in the market for a Tesla?
No.
Have not been for a long time.
When did that change?
Because you were big on it.
Years ago.
You were big on it, weren't you?
Years ago.
I was only big on it
because they had announced
that there was going to be
like a $35,000 version of it.
And I put a $1,000 version of it. And I
put a thousand dollar deposit on it. And I think like two or three years later, it still wasn't
even close to being produced. And so I opted out of that a long time ago, got my money back.
Do you like, is your current automobile burning fossil fuels?
One out of, well, I guess technically both of them are, I have green plates
on one, but it's, it's, it's a pure high, a true hybrid in the sense that I can go a
hundred percent electric.
Okay.
And it also has an engine in it.
And then the other one I have is a fossil fuel.
What is that?
Like a leaf?
No, it's a, it's a Jeep Wrangler.
Okay.
Look at you, buddy.
Okay.
I was just going to get a Tesla update from you because earlier today I had my first ride
in a Tesla because...
Oh, really? Was it an Uber or something?
No, humble Howard Glassman is driving a Tesla and he came over to drop off some stuff and then he took me for a ride.
Well, it was smooth, like it was silent.
Smooth operator.
Smooth operator that gets the job done.
Quiet AF.
That means ass fuck, okay.
Quiet AF.
And he,
he showed off this acceleration where it's crazy.
It was like,
it was in a rocket ship and it was scary.
It's nuts.
And it's all like,
it's all being run off an iPad,
right?
So it's like,
it's all on the iPad and everything's done.
It's really weird when I drive my Jeep down the,
down my,
in my neighborhood on electric,
which I do for the most part,
my driving is full electric. Cause I'm just in the, in the neighborhood on electric which i do for the most part my driving is full electric
because i'm just in the in the neighborhood the the downfall is that no one knows that i'm coming
so the kids are playing in the street like i got to be extra careful because i when i cycle which
i do quite a bit mr elvis i like i like i can hear the cars coming yeah like it'd be strange to like
oh there's a car there i've definitely startled the few people on the street for sure they gotta be extra careful yeah and before we paid the uh
respects to the fotms who passed away i realized we need to do a little reset here just a quick one
oh boy because uh no not a big deal but uh i got a apple podcast comment from somebody who's like
i love toronto mic but one day i'm listening. This might be his last year's festivus.
Oh, is this guy?
And I'm listening.
I don't know gender, but I'm listening
and there's this guy Elvis on.
And there's no content.
And I don't know who this is.
And he never explained who it was.
And I realized, like,
I just assume everyone was listening since day one.
Can I just say, in your defense,
this guy or
girl or other
is not
listening.
Because you clearly defined who I was
at the beginning of the show. I don't think I do. You absolutely
did. How? You said, I am here with
my friend Elvis. My friend Elvis. Okay, so it's just
a friend. I guess that this person, I
could imagine who might have come by in the last
couple years. A lot of people, there were these waves, right? The last couple in the last couple years a lot of people there was these waves right like in the last couple years there's been a lot
of people who found the show especially since the toronto star uh article that's hanging on my
so they all think like every guest is some famous for something and and if you're not even sure who
it is at least we talk about like why you should know this person or like like who is this person
they wrote a book about this and we talk about that,
whatever.
But for you,
there was,
there's never any context because I just assume like,
I'm not Gino Vanelli.
I assume every listener is like,
I'll use somebody randomly.
Who is that?
TM Alex Levin.
Every listener is Moose Grumpy.
Okay.
Moose is like your biggest fan.
Like Moose Grumpy loves the Elvis episodes.
And she was there from pretty early on and she
loved it when you were co-hosting back in the day so here's an opportunity for you mr elvis
first to tell people like if your name is really elvis and then to tell us like who the hell are
you give a little context to who you was not prepared for this i i'm i've been friends with
mike since what i don't even remember you gave me that job in porno. Yeah, it really was.
That was probably 2006.
I actually know.
It's not six.
Oh, you know what?
It's six or seven.
It's five or six.
It's going to be five or six.
It's six then.
Because I started that job in five
and I didn't think it was in the first year,
but it could have been.
So yeah, I'm going to say six.
Seven is when I take that job at Profix,
right?
But I go back to another job,
so it's got to be six.
Okay.
So I met you in 2006 and we've been friends ever since.
It's very,
there's,
let me just think of,
of the people.
So I was a recruiter at the time.
And you recruited me for a job in porn.
Like that's an actual fact.
Yes,
that is a fact.
I recruited,
not my huge penis.
No,
I was just going to say,
not behind the scenes, but in front of the
scenes we were that kind of agency in front of the scene suggests the actors and actresses i was
making a joke oh you're making a joke okay um you have a face for uh podcasting let's just put it
that way but a penis for porn you were a stunt penis that's what we were hiring for we were
hiring for the money shot, the stunt penis.
Anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was,
uh,
of all the people that I've ever recruited in my life,
which was pretty substantial over six years.
Uh,
there's only one person really,
I think after all this time that I still remain in contact.
I'm honored.
That's amazing.
But I wouldn't even say it like that sounds so ridiculous.
It's 16 years.
There's a, yeah, but that math, right? No, it's not. Yeah. I wouldn't say that we. Like, that sounds so ridiculous. And that's 16 years.
Is that math right?
No, it's not.
I wouldn't say that we keep in contact.
We're friends, right?
We're friends.
Yeah, we're friends, of course.
We've been friends for a long time.
You co-hosted TMLX11.
Yeah, I went to your wedding.
I know your wife.
I know your kids.
You know my wife.
Was that TFC with you?
You tried to give me COVID?
Yes, we've been there.
So the final home game of TFC,
you took me because you have seats in the supporter section.
Correct.
I was your guest.
Yes. So we sat there and watched this.
It didn't actually have any like playoff implications
because we were already eliminated,
but it was nice to be there and see the final game.
Correct.
And then that weekend, so that's like a Friday.
Correct.
And that weekend you're in bed with COVID.
Sunday I was in bed all day without being able to get out of bed. It was, and I had, excuse me. Is that COVID right there? No, I had two full weeks, 14 full days of fatigue
and just grossness. And then on day 15, I woke up and I felt better.
And then it took a few more days to get back to 100%.
But I had 14 full days of COVID, of which the first day was one of the worst.
And that was less than 48 hours after I made out with you and said goodbye.
Pretty much.
From BMO.
Pretty much made out.
It's crazy.
How did you not get it?
I don't know how you wouldn't have got it. I don't know. Because, I mean, you're, you know. But I did eventually get it. But much made it. It's crazy. How did you not get it? I don't know how you wouldn't have got it
because I mean you're,
you know.
But I did eventually get it.
But you got it recently.
I listened to an episode.
It was the 8 minute
and 37 second episode.
Perfect length for you.
That's what she said.
Hey-o!
Hey-o!
That's how I got the job in porn.
Okay, let's discuss,
let's address the fact
that I call you Elvis.
Okay, so here's a little bit of...
A little blue Christmas here.
Is your real name Elvis?
Yes.
You can control
the narrative. I don't care. i care all right so i say that
it's not on my birth certificate but people have called me elvis since probably grade 12.
i and i i called you elvis because i don't even remember why because that's what i wanted to go
by on the podcast no because it was way before that
I believe I called you Elvis because
when I first met you
I saw on your
license plate it said Elvis
like Elvis Run or something
am I doxing you with that
don't get a personalized license unless you want to get
doxed or whatever okay
so just the final context here
is this is a guy I've known since 06.
He got me a job in pornography.
We hit it off.
I like the guy.
He was at my wedding in 2013 or whatever.
You sat at the infamous Humble and Fred table.
I did.
With Rosie and Anthony Pacucci of Palma Pasta.
Who didn't actually sit down for most of the wedding because he was working.
I put him to work and like get to
work, earn your
supper.
He's got a lasagna here for you to take home
Elvis. You're taking home a palm of pasta
lasagna. Thank you. He doesn't need to do that.
Well, he doesn't need to, but every guest gets one.
Why would you be any different?
Every guest of Toronto Mike leaves with a
lasagna. You've got your great lakes.
I want to just rub something out.
No, I want to rub something in your nose here.
Can you look at that?
What is that postcard?
What does it look like to you?
This is Elvis is reading.
I put something in front of him.
It is like a Christmas card.
Yeah, it's a Christmas card from Mike Epple.
I'm on Mike Epple's Christmas card list.
That's wonderful.
Let's not bury the lead here.
I see him every morning on TV. Are you on his Christmas card list? I'm not on his Christmas card list. That's wonderful. Let's not bury the lead here. I see him every morning on TV.
Are you on his Christmas card list?
I am not on his Christmas card list.
So when he heard Festivus episode was taking place,
he tweeted that he has many, many grievances.
And Mike Epple's a good egg because he sent me a Christmas card.
I thought that was amazing.
That's very nice of him.
And he's in my hood, my neck of the woods.
Right.
He's in Durham region. He's in Durham region.
We don't
really do grievances necessarily.
I do feats of strength with my kids. Well, if you have any
grievances, do you have any?
Yeah. Well, maybe some will
leak out during the chat or whatever. Yeah, there's usually things
that pop up that, well, there's one in
particular that usually comes up that we like to
go off on, but
nothing really in particular i don't
think okay then let's pay respect to a couple of fotms who passed away this is the first year i've
ever had to do this the first fotm by fotm i mean friend of toronto mike i mean guest of toronto
mike so this is episode 1175 and they're not all unique guests but we're at about 600 plus unique guests at this point. No guest of Toronto Mike has died until 2022.
The first FOTM to die, Andrew Crystal.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Do you know Andrew Crystal?
Of course.
I don't know him personally.
No, but of course I know him.
Yes.
Who was he?
He's infamous in Toronto Review.
Where did you listen to him
um well definitely uh the fan experiment is probably what i remember him most from correct
morning show um but what he was on was he on mojo he was on mojo yeah for sure yeah so i would have
known him mostly from mojo but then when they brought him over to the fan for the morning show
that was when it was kind of like,
what is happening?
I got to listen to this guy.
Terrible hire.
Terrible.
Didn't work out very well.
I don't know.
It did.
Did he address it?
Did he talk about that at all in your podcast?
But that was a bit bananas episode anyway,
because I remember.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah,
he did talk about that,
but he's one of the two,
uh,
like,
like puzzling hires for that morning show in the history of the Fan 5 Night.
But although now
we're at a point
where I don't even know
who's doing the morning show.
Like it's just.
Isn't it Dan Schulman's son
or something?
No, I think it's
Chris Cuthbert's son.
Oh, okay.
That's it.
I knew it was.
Dan Schulman's son is like,
he does do work
on Blue Jays radio.
Yeah, I've seen him
on Tim and Friends.
Ben, I think is his name.
So there's a little nepotism
going on in sports now,
but that's okay.
He sounds like his dad too.
Well, that'll serve him well sounds like his dad too. Well,
that'll,
that'll serve him well.
Yeah.
So Andrew Crystal,
the first one to pass away.
Now the second one,
I bet you,
you don't even know who this guy is.
Al Mayer.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Alexander Mayer started Attic Records.
I don't know if you.
Oh yeah.
Okay.
I have a,
oh,
awesome.
Back in the day,
like box set of Att set from Attic Records.
Like Haywire?
You know who else was on that label? Lee Aaron was on
that thing. Triumph, maybe?
But definitely
Maestro Fresh West was
released on Attic. There's a whole bunch
of Canadian artists that were promoted
on Attic Records.
Anyway, Al Mayer came on the program. He just
got the Order of Canada,
and sadly, he passed away from cancer.
And I still don't have a cause of death for Andrew Crystal.
I was told he had a heart attack,
but I didn't get any specifics or whatnot.
But yeah, so we lost a couple of FOTMs.
So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Hopefully next year, we don't lose any,
because I had a great streak going,
like almost a decade before the first guest passed away.
So what are you looking at there, Elton? Creed
was on them. Well, Creed. In Canada.
Maybe a Canadian thing because
Creed was a big fucking American
rock band. Yeah, that's who it is.
Okay. Their Canadian label is Creed
for whatever reason. Okay, what do you know?
You never know. I think Weird Al Yankovic too.
Now that I'm thinking about it. Weird Al.
House of Pain. House of Pain. Okay. Judas Priest. Wow. I think that Al Yankovic too, now that I'm thinking about it. Weird Al, I believe. House of Pain. House of Pain, okay.
Judas Priest.
Wow.
I think that they had distribution.
And you're looking at, yeah.
That's what I'm guessing.
Of course.
Motorhead.
The Nylons.
Wow, remember the Nylons?
I had Billy Newton Davis on the program.
Run DMC.
Okay.
That's why I remember the box that I have.
I think it was five CDsds and there was a lot
of like obviously they led with a lot of the bigger bands versus cool yeah weirdo yankovic
is definitely on there good job cool cool so before i introduce the theme of our jam kicking
and then we'll get to some songs uh there's one non-fotm who passed away that I want to get your thoughts on because I think you'll have a lot to say about it
in 2022 we lost
Gilbert Gottfried
you're a big Howard Stern guy
I know you're a big Gilbert Gottfried guy
I love Gilbert
what say you
and if you want to cry please do
my favorite part of these Festivus episodes
what say you Elvis about the passing of gilbert godfrey
certainly sad i mean like he was um he was a strange fellow it seems like based on what you
hear about him and that um yeah it was he's anyway incredibly funny uh i'm not gonna cry i mean like
uh it's not talking like gordon i think we for like three, three episodes in a row or something like that one time.
But yeah, I incredibly funny and knew where the line was and wasn't afraid to cross that line, which I appreciated about him.
Maybe told a couple of jokes that got him into trouble and cost him.
He was fearless.
But ultimately, based on what I have heard about him,
is that he was a weird dude and for whatever reason
was able to actually get married and have kids.
Which if you hear what some of his colleagues had to say about him,
and even when he was alive, they were surprised that that was even able able to happen right apparently he was an incredibly dysfunctional type of person i
think and they were just surprised that yeah he was able to have a somewhat normal life and never
was out of character that voice right he never dropped there's that one voicemail that leaked
out that he left for bubba buoy like so there was one voicemail where he was, and then somebody leaked that
and it ends up on YouTube.
But that's like the only time
I've heard Gilbert out of character.
He's always with that voice.
But incredibly...
It's time to do that voice!
Incredibly funny.
Speaking of crying...
Do we know why he died?
Cancer.
Cancer.
Yeah.
Motherfuckers.
Have you ever had cancer, Elvis?
I have. That's part of your story, right?
Yeah, it sucks. I think that was one of the first times
I was on the podcast with you and Rosie. You got me to tell
my story. And
you've been cancer-free
for a while now. For a while now, yeah. Since
I don't even
know. The 24th
was my anniversary. One of
my anniversaries. The Christmas Eve?
Yeah, Christmas Eve is my very first negative test that came back.
Okay.
Yeah.
Well, good for you.
You look healthy.
Thank you.
You look like a bag of shit, but just your normal bag of shit is what you look like here.
Yeah, exactly.
Do you remember how much you cried when this man died?
A lot.
This was a shock.
This was one of those celebrity. But you did a lot. This was, this is a shock.
This was one of those celebrity did a lot of Coke.
This was a celebrity cry fest that I didn't expect to have. I,
for whatever reason,
this one hit me like a ton of bricks when George Michael died.
Oh man.
I,
and I love this song.
This is like my,
I have a,
um,
playlist on my phone.
Um,
I hate Christmas horribly.
So I do too, actually.
However, I do have a playlist, and I'll show it to Mike so that
he can see it. It's
called Christmas Horseshit.
And there's five songs on it
that this time of year I will listen to.
Okay, let me hear the five.
Mistress for Christmas by ACDC.
Last Christmas by
Wham! Do They Know. Last Christmas by Wham.
Do They Know It's Christmas by Band-Aid.
Melikaleki Maka by Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters.
And then for whatever reason, I listened to We Are the World.
Because I tied these two together.
This is Christmas to me.
This song.
One lyric in particular sort of sums up my feeling of the entire season. And I have to thank my good friend Bono for delivering it to us. Because it really just
for... Yeah, there's George again.
Yeah, it is.
We can spread a smile of joy
For your arms around the world
At Christmas time
The videos are...
I watched the videos the other day.
It's quite something.
Pray for the other one
The 80s were an interesting time.
At Christmas time
It's hard to get when you're having fun
Yes, sir?
There was a couple of people there that were singing for longer than you get to later in the song.
It's coming up.
He's here
Bono's in it
Tell us about Christmas
Okay Elvis
Go off on that line here
Thank God it's them instead of you
It totally sums up the real season itself
Like the whole Everyone's in it for themselves.
All you have to do is just drive in anywhere on the streets or in a parking lot
and you realize that no one gives a shit about all the things that they think Christmas is about.
It's all about proving how much you can give somebody else
because that's how we value people's love and friendships is by what material items
they give us and fuck everyone else around you because they're in your way push them down you
know that's why festivus actually means something because it was started by george costanza's dad
pushing down people in the toy store to get george a. There had to be a better way, right? And this is the true meaning of the season.
No religion and no commercialism.
Correct.
And you know what?
It's like I actually just, my neighbor Chi and I were chatting the other day about Christmas
and I looked her in the eyes and I mean every word.
Her name is Chi.
And I meant every word of this.
If I didn't have kids, this is the truth.
If I didn't have kids, I i would 100 opt out of this entire ridiculous
holiday like i still don't know is is santa jesus i'm not sure i don't know what the thing is there
and then uh yeah like my kids my kids know and i know they can probably hear me but i'm not going
to say anything so this is yeah it's a secret work yeah my kids know that when they wake up
on christmas morning santa will have been there and will have left them presents correct okay It's a sacred work. Yeah. My kids know that when they wake up on Christmas morning,
Santa will have been there and will have left them presents.
Correct.
Okay.
And they know, like they know Santa and Jesus are not the same person.
Like Santa, there's no, in my home, okay, in my home,
Jesus isn't invited to Christmas, just Santa.
So Santa's going to leave presents.
The reindeer will have eaten the carrot.
And then maybe Santa will have had a cookie and some milk.
And this will be a wonderful morning when Morgan and Jarvis see what Santa left them. It really just is.
It highlights the hypocrisy of the season.
That lyric there is just, it's fantastic.
Because it really just,
it says exactly what is happening right now.
No one cares about anybody else.
Did he,
he went on the record
to say he regrets that line, right?
Yeah, well, I think everyone.
Did Bob Geldof write that line?
I believe so.
I believe Bob is the one
who's credited with writing the song.
Well, that's his baby there.
And did you say one of your Christmas songs
is We Are the World?
Yeah.
But why not the better Tears Are Not Enough?
Oh, that is on my list.
I just, for whatever reason,
it's not available, weirdly enough,
it's not available on Apple Music.
Well, that's...
I don't know why.
That's ridiculous.
But that would be the trifecta.
I know why it's not available.
It's got Neil Young in there.
No, that's not Apple.
That's Spotify.
My apologies.
Okay. I want to. My apologies. Okay.
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Okay.
Yeah.
Now, that is a functioning flashlight.
Whoa, that'll be good
for the generational storm.
Yeah, the generational storm.
When the power goes out.
Right.
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when you pull out your penis later
and I go to measure it.
Later.
It's out right now.
If I can't find it,
I can just use the flashlight
to see where it is.
Yeah.
I love it.
I just realized
you don't get the Mike Epple.
I can't get the Mike Epple.
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All right.
So thank you Ridley Funeral, for your support in 2022.
They're good people.
Yeah.
Well, Brad was here yesterday kicking out his three favorite Christmas songs of all time.
I've met Brad a few times now, and I do enjoy it.
He was at TMLX11.
Did he have any of my Christmas horseshit?
No, he had something by Garth Brooks, and he had White Christmas by Bing Crosby.
Yeah.
And he had Bob and Doug McKenzie's 12 Days of Christmas.
Oh, that would be a good one to add on my list.
Have you listened to Dave Thomas on Toronto Mike yet? yet no get the fuck out of my basement should i yeah
it's brilliant that okay i ask you this all the time donovan bailey i know what you're gonna ask
who is the most famous famous person you've had on your podcast it's either chuck d or donovan
bailey oh in the basement or on the podcast on the podcast
donovan bailey or chuck d not ron mclean you don't think well both those two people i named
are more famous than ron mclean you think well are we talking uh world i think chuck d would
probably be the most famous no yeah but remember remember and i am a little biased because he's
here every week and we become good friends but donovan bailey was the fast he was usain bolt
before usain bolt he was the fastest man in the world
and had the world record for the 100 meter.
Listen, I agree.
However, I'm wondering if someone from Austin, Texas
were to pull up the podcast,
would they immediately know who Donovan Bailey is?
I'm not sure they would.
So maybe it is Chuck D.
No offense to Donovan Bailey.
Maybe it is Chuck D.
But then Donovan Bailey would be
the most famous Canadian I've had.
Yeah, you get, but it's funny,
because I do scroll through the ads that you post online.
They're called promotions.
In between your blog posts.
And this question comes up often.
You do get some really big time guests.
Dave Thomas is a big one and he was fantastic.
Gino Vanelli.
Yes, Gino was in the basement, so that gets bonus points.
Although Donovan's been in the basement.
Maestro's been in the basement.
Maestro's big.
But Dave Thomas zoomed in because he lives in California.
Right.
So there's a bit of a thing.
But at least Chuck.
Chuck not in the basement, but in person.
Yes.
That was in a gymnasium or something like that.
It was in the back of the C&E grandstand.
That's what it was, yeah.
Not quite a gymnasium.
And it was short.
It was like 20 minutes or something, right?
I only had 20 minutes with the band.
Yeah, but that would make sense
because he had to do a show and stuff.
Like, what is he going to do?
Sit down with you for a...
Yeah, no comment.
I think he could have done longer.
I think he wanted to,
but he had a handler
who was giving me the evil eyes.
He had people.
Wrap-up signs here.
Okay.
Do you still have the rule
of not generally working with PR people?
It's not as black and white now
because there have been a few guests that I
had to go through PR for,
but I really do like,
I had a bad experience with somebody.
I remember.
Yeah.
Well that,
that,
okay.
But more recently,
um,
on Twitter,
there's a woman,
do you know the name Patricia Juggernaut?
No.
Does that name mean anything?
Okay.
She was on CP 24 for many years.
Okay.
Doing this.
It's like a fucking,
she's like a Marvel.
Do you ever watch CP24?
Is she a fucking Avenger or something?
That's an amazing handle.
Patricia?
What an amazing name.
Juggernaut.
That's a fucking great name.
She might be an Avenger.
That's fantastic.
Do you ever watch CP24?
No, I don't watch CP24.
Because you're loyal to breakfast television.
I also don't have cable.
Okay.
So I get what I get over the air or whatever I can stream.
That's a good
reason okay so yeah uh she left in a blaze of glory as bon jovi would say she quit her gig
at cp24 and filed a complaint with um oh really human rights tribunal do we have that in canada
about yes yeah she said uh she claims that uh she was was overlooked for promotions because she is a black woman.
Okay.
Oh, I think I remember this story.
Okay, so this was kind of news because she's got grievances.
Right, yeah, legit grievances.
Somebody just tweeted at me that I should get her story, which of course, that's what I do, right?
Right, yeah, yeah.
I give a safe space and she could tell her story.
And then someone tweeted at me, you should have Patricia.
So I replied back and said, I would love to patricia j on the podcast like i dragged her yeah and then
that twitter account i'm not i'm purposely wording it that way the twitter account replies back
i'd love to come on toronto mike let's do it so my next move is i slide into her dms
hey oh and i'm like uh let's let's schedule it yeah i love it yeah let's schedule it. Yeah, let's do it.
And then we went back and forth,
very awkward and uncomfortable exchanges for about four weeks
and it had got moved to email very quickly
and all these emails were coming
from the Patricia J team
and they were signed by the name Jani.
I don't know how to pronounce the name. J-A-N-I.
And a little Googling taught me
this was Patricia's fiance.
So all my correspondents,
and I believe the tweet was actually him too.
And I believe my DMs were him now
because all the tonage and the style
was the same as these emails
which were being signed as.
You got catfished.
Well, not too much catfished
because the emails at least were signed Johnny.
But all the other correspondence was not. But I know it's him so i don't think to this as i speak to you elvis
i don't think i've ever corresponded with patricia directly i would imagine though that if you were
in the midst of a case like you wouldn't want to come and talk about it do people do that
i don't know uh but then why tweet at me that you would love to come on toronto mike like you
didn't ever know you never know what's Mike? You didn't have to do that.
You never know what's happening.
Anyway, I don't think that's going to happen.
Have you ever tweeted when you maybe weren't of sound mind?
Come on.
I'm sure you have.
Are you suggesting Johnny was not of sound mind?
I'm not suggesting about him anyway.
I just, you know, like he could, you know, you could,
you might have tweeted in the past when you were taking your edibles.
I'll be honest.
You were big fatty or you were angry maybe or you just like.
Well, you know, that's my secret.
I'm always angry.
Okay.
We haven't introduced the theme yet.
We got to get to the end.
You'll be here all night.
Okay.
So we're kicking out thematic jams.
I did pack a bag actually just in case the storm blew in.
I did.
Tonight James is at his mom's house, which means there's actually a bed around the corner.
And you get a nice comfy bed.
I did come prepared. I don't know what's going to and you get a nice country. I did come to America.
I never,
I don't know what's going to come.
You don't know.
It could freeze up tonight.
Okay.
We're kicking out our favorite jams from super groups.
Good idea,
right?
Was that your idea?
It was.
Okay,
good.
Yeah,
it was good.
I had asked a buddy of mine.
I was like,
Hey,
I'm going to go do this.
What do you think?
And he gave me a couple of ideas of which they weren't that,
but he led me down the path where I which they weren't that but it he led
me down the path where i got to like hey why don't we do super groups but i called remember i wasn't
calling them super groups i was like what were you calling them super bands or something i think
so we're gonna go one by one we're gonna start elvis than me we're gonna each kick out five
jams we love from super groups and it's kind of fun because sometimes there's some bands you
didn't know were super groups yeah like uh it'll be fun to talk about whether they're a super group or not.
Can I give you my rules?
Yeah.
I'm not suggesting that you...
Thank you for telling me the rule after I picked my jams.
Go ahead.
Excuse me.
Oh, my God.
You know why you belch on the mic?
Because Howard Stern belches on the mic.
No, I don't.
Doesn't he?
I opted out of choosing any charity super bands that's like super groups you know like like
we are the world or band-aid yeah whatever you should opt out of those uh anything that was done
for a charity i i wanted to also choose bands that actually had albums released yeah by them
not just singles good idea to have a full band me too um. And I wanted at least two members of the band
to come from a previous band that was relatively well-known.
Do they have to come from a band,
or could they just be successful soloists?
They could be soloists.
So far, I agree with all your rules.
There you go.
So if these are like four guys from four bands
you've never heard of, we're not kicking them out here.
Right, and I also told you that i was eliminating the two
just for for my sake for these the two most obvious super bands which are which you could
very well have picked them but i didn't go for the super obvious okay well don't even name them
then because i probably kicked them out okay i might i like to uh as i just i kicked out december
jams the other day yeah and one of the songs I kicked out was collective soul song,
December.
Oh,
nice.
And then I think Rob Pruse,
I don't know who it was.
Somebody said it was a little on the nose and I'm like,
yeah,
it's,
that's the whole fucking point.
And then I kicked out a long December by counting.
Oh yeah.
Good one.
Yeah.
It's on the nose.
There are two,
if we don't,
if we don't hear them,
I'll say it at the end,
but there are two sort of like iconic super bands.
Um, and if you end up playing the last thing i'll say is if you play led zeppelin i'm leaving i do not have led zeppelin
on my because technically it would yard birds like where are they coming from yeah so yard birds is
not yeah yard birds is not in my mind but what's the other band just help me out well yard birds
no yard birds I would accept.
What's the second band?
I don't know.
So you worry about that.
Well, I just thank, quickly, I want to thank Raymond James Canada for their support.
They have a great podcast called the Advantaged Investor Podcast, and it features insights
from leading professionals, providing valuable perspective for Canadian investors who want
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informed and focus on longterm success.
On that note,
Elvis,
did you invest in Tesla?
Like I know we talked about whether you'd buy a Tesla.
I'm just curious because apparently it's down like 70% of this calendar year
or something like that.
I'm just curious.
Uh,
no,
I did,
did not.
Okay.
But if you are curious about investments and such,
uh,
Raymond James Canada has the podcast for you,
the Advantage Investor Podcast.
And I would love to shout out FOTM Al Grego
on his award-winning podcast, Yes, We Are Open,
which is a Moneris podcast production.
He's been telling the stories of Canadian small businesses
and their perseverance in the face of overwhelming adversity.
You, Elvis, probably, in fact, I know because I witnessed it.
You met Al Grego at TMLX 11.
Not for the first time, yes.
Not for the first time because I think Al's been to all TMLX events.
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We love.
Okay, Elvis, what were you going to say about Led Zeppelin?
Well, I was going to say the Yardbirds, really,
if you want to think about the origins of a super group,
you could maybe make the argument that led zeppelin uh came from well
they definitely came from the yardbirds but it would be uh disingenuous to say that they're
related beyond just the fact that they came in after everyone else left but the yardbirds did
include people like um eric clapton and jeff beck yeah and then of course, Jimmy Page. But Jimmy got rid of all of them
and then just replaced them with the members
of what became Led Zeppelin.
See, okay, so you need at least two bands
or two things to formulate to make a super group, right?
So like I know the Yardbirds I would count.
I'm literally going to be kicking out a band
that has a member from the Yardbirds.
But what's the other band?
And again, if it's an obscure British band
that only the musicologists are aware of.
That's what I'm saying,
is that they're sort of like band one of supergroups.
Because Eric Clapton is an Eric Clapton
before he's in the Yardbirds.
Well, Cream was before the,
oh, before the Yardbirds, yeah, you're right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right, Elvis.
Are you ready to kick out your first super group jam?
No, this is mine.
All right.
Woo!
Yeah!
Woo!
Perhaps the most surprising.
Took it from me.
Oh, yeah.
You don't like Pearl Jam.
Super surprising, right?
We'll talk about it.
Let Eddie go.
I don't mind stealing bread from the mouths of decades. Let Eddie go.
I love this song.
I just want to let the world know that.
Fucking love this song.
I love this song. Already overfilled Yeah But it's on the table
The fire's cooking
And the farming babies
With slaves are working
The blood is on the table And the mouths are choking There's Eddie. But it's on the table, the fire's cooking
And the farming babies and the slaves are all working
And it's on the table, the mouths are choking
I'm going hungry And it's on the table, the mouths are choking.
But I'm going hungry.
I can listen to the whole song.
Elvis, tell me. It's fucking great.
You love this song, but you dislike Pearl Jam.
Is that right?
Yeah, so I thought this was a surprising pick,
or it would be for the three people who have heard me go off on the most overrated and shitty bands ever.
You don't like, it's funny because Bob Ouellette was here on Tuesday,
and it's his favorite band of all time.
Yeah, well, I remember last time we were doing something,
there was like a live feed somewhere, and people were criticizing me
because I said that the three most overrated shitty bands of all time are Pearl Jam,
Radiohead, and Coldplay.
I hate all three of those.
Yeah, you listen to ACDC on your way here.
So like in your mind, in your ears,
ACDC, far better than Pearl Jam.
100 times better.
100 times better.
This is why music is so subjective.
So this is a surprising pick even for me,
but I do love this song.
This is, of course, Temple of the Dog.
Right.
And it's basically Eddie Vedder and Chris Cornell.
Well, it's Mother Love Bone and Soundgarden with some surfer from San Diego popping in named Eddie Vedder.
Right?
Sure. surfer from San Diego popping in named Eddie better right sure and then from
that then of course Pearl Jam because mother love bone plus Eddie Pearl Jam
right so then this is what I've read about this song they had one album what
I've read about this song is that this was supposed to be a Chris Cornell song
entirely from a vocal perspective right and. And in the studio, he was having a tough time and Eddie jumped in and said,
why don't you sing it like this?
And they ultimately kept,
love it.
They made it a duet.
Would you call it a duet?
I don't know.
I think it's a duet.
It's a duet,
right?
And it's fucking amazing.
And it holds up like this thing's from what?
1991 or something like that.
For me,
Chris Cornell is one of my top five singers.
Love Chris.
Great voice.
Great voice.
And I think even though I do not like Eddie at all,
their voices complement one another very well in this song.
I think it's just an amazingly good song.
Okay,
no argument for me
because if you didn't pick it,
I would pick it.
Okay,
Temple of the Dog,
great selection.
There's also that album,
which I had that album
because I love this song so much.
But they had a great jam on that
I used to play all the time,
Say Hello to Heaven.
Yes, that would be their other single, right?
So I'm going to say hello quickly
to some people on live.toronomike.com
who have come out on their Thursday night
to watch us record Festivus,
even though I'm not going to drop this episode until tomorrow.
So these are the only people.
Like if I die in my sleep tonight, it'll be
only these people who
witnessed this wonder.
Because it won't make it to the feed.
Okay, that's a great thought. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
So Tobias Vaughn is here.
Tobias Vaughn was in
Qatar to
watch a lot of the World Cup
I saw a lot of photos from
Canada's matches and he was at a whole bunch of other matches
so he's back now
and he's dropping a couple
of names Asia
and ELP
are a couple of
super groups he hopes he hears no spoiler
we'll see what we get I want to say hi to Steve
Leggett Steve Leggett says
I guess he's quoting
a great, great rap song. You say
he's just a friend. Here you go. He's
talking about how good it is. He says, nice to
see you all. And I want to shout out
Canada Kev. He's the guy
who passed me that baguette
at the Black Crows that I
puffed on. And he says,
thank God it's them and not you.
So he's paraphrasing Bono's line there from,
uh,
that song.
And,
uh,
Cambrio says,
hi Elvis.
Yo,
yo.
He says,
is Elvis your real name?
And he says,
like Nicholas Piccolis.
And we've addressed that earlier.
So Cambrio will have to go back and listen to the podcast.
Nicholas Piccolis,
who's still actively working in Buffalo.
And he himself is an FOTM.
Does he call himself Nicholas Pickles still?
Yeah.
Good for him.
He does.
A friend of mine started dating someone named Nick,
and I called him Nicholas Pickles,
and she had no idea what he was talking about.
Well, you should be dating me then.
I know these things.
Okay.
Are you ready for my first Supergroup Jam?
Hit me.
All right.
All right.
I know what you're talking about here.
Wow.
We're not fucking around today.
So this is one.
You can keep going.
Oh.
I thought you wanted to say something.
No, no.
You started to say something.
I know.
I know.
I don't want to wreck the song. I'll bring her down because I want to bring her back up for the,
uh,
piano coda at the end and talk about that for a moment.
But what were you going to say about Layla by Derek and the Dominoes?
This is like one of those iconic songs, right?
Oh, yeah.
And I think, do you think more people think about this version or didn't Eric Clap Clapton do a version of this, like, when his son died or something?
No, you're confusing.
Or is that my thinking about that something else?
You're complaining two songs that came out in the same period of time.
The song for his son who died was called Tears in Heaven.
That's it.
Why am I confusing that?
Well, if it came out, they were both, like, unplugged at the same time.
Yeah, that's what it was, right?
He took Layla, he stripped it down, unplugged it, and he kind of,
you got me on my knees, Layla.
Like, completely changed it.
My bad, my bad.
This is the version you and I like.
Much better version.
Much better version.
Yeah.
Even though, remember Unplugged was like a whole thing for a long time?
Pearl Jam, and they didn't release it, but I had a bootleg of Pearl Jam Unplugged.
But the best Unplugged of all time, probably, is Nirvana Unplugged in New York.
That was 94.
But there were a bunch.
I had Neil Young Unplugged. all time, probably, is Nirvana. Unplugged in New York. That was 94. But there were a bunch. I had Neil Young unplugged.
There was tons of them.
And then it got, of course, like everything else, it just got overplayed.
You know what other unplugged I loved was the Alice in Chains unplugged.
I was a big fan of that one.
Yeah.
And then Metallica did the whole, like, thing with the San Francisco Orchestra.
And then that became a thing, right?
Where, like, rock bands would do things with the orchestra.
And that didn't really... I mean, you got
Metallica. I love their stuff and then you have
like... I'm really going
on a tangent here. I'm sorry. I like tangents.
And then Guns N' Roses did their thing with
November Rain. Sure.
I'm a fucking epic. But
I mean, come on. You and I went to Guns N' Roses
together, right? We did. We did. And remember
I still remember that show because
we kept saying to each other
Axl would go
off stage at the end of every song.
Remember that? He'd finish singing the song and then I don't know
if he's getting oxygen or coke
or both.
But clearly he's not.
If I remember correctly, tell me.
I remember they went like three hours. Am I dreaming that?
They did. When you're getting something
backstage after every song, yeah.
I can't.
And I remember thinking.
How did he do shows with ACDC for all those months?
Like the guy's clearly.
Oh, that piano coda.
Okay.
So this will.
Give this a moment and I'll come back to it.
Because I actually think this is better than the first part.
Like that's how much I like this piano coda.
Such a great song.
But to be discussed.
like that's how much I like this piano
program
such a great song
but to be discussed
I have so many
questions to ask you
about your decision
making process at the
end
alright and also
what I'm going to do
for all my jams
is tell you which
bands they came
we did that for
yours but
like how is this
a super group
like we need to
tell people how
Derek and the
Dominoes is a
super group
do you have it or do you want me to pull it up no I have it Andrew Ward points out that I need to tell people how Derek and the Dominoes is a super group.
Do you have it or do you want me to pull it up?
No, I have it.
Andrew Ward points out that REM had a really good unplugged and Canada Kev jokingly is looking for ACDC unplugged, but that's impossible, right?
It doesn't exist.
It does not exist.
No, they've never done a ballad, right?
The closest you come to it is...
Oh, shit.
It's a more progressive song.
Fuck.
Hold on, hold on.
Don't tell me.
Is it Hell's Bells?
No, no, no, no.
Sink the Pink?
Hey, if you're watching at live.torontomic.com,
let us know if there's an ACDC ballad or how close...
I can't think of one off the top of my head.
I'm not a big fan.
The Razor's Edge.
Okay.
It's as close as you can come.
It's slower.
You know what I loved?
But I was the right age for it when I discovered it.
Back in Black.
I spun Back in Black like crazy.
I remember to this day in my high school,
somebody put ACDC on one of the outlets,
the plugs in the hallway of my high school.
Was it my high school?
No,
it would have been my grade school.
And I thought it was the coolest fucking thing ever.
Somebody put ACDC on the plug.
I have been linked by Canada Kev.
I've been linked to a YouTube video.
I won't play it only because I don't,
I'm having a trouble when I play something on the YouTube,
having it come through the board or whatever, but
it's an unplugged version of You Shook Me All Night Long.
From Howard Stern.
Is that from Howard Stern? I think so.
Alright, so that exists.
I mean, that's not really... Alright, back to Derek
and the Dominoes here. They need the spotlight right now.
Firstly, Eric Clapton.
You mentioned the Yardbirds.
He did a few things, but Cream, of course. Cream would be the big Eric Clapton. You mentioned the Yardbirds. He did a few things, but Cream, of course.
Cream would be the big Eric Clapton.
I'm laughing because it's an understatement.
But yeah, you're right.
So there's Eric.
Okay.
Then there's a band, and this is a band, but there's another one that'll make you qualify for your rule set.
But there's a band I'm not familiar with called Delaney and Bonnie.
I've never heard of Delaney and Bonnie,
but three members of Delaney and Bonnie are in Derek and the Dominoes.
Bobby Whitlock, Carl Rattle, and Jim Gordon.
Jim Gordon's an important name to remember
because of this piano coda we're listening to right now.
Isn't that Cam's dad too?
Yeah, Cam's dad.
Cam's grandfather, right?
You're absolutely right.
And Cam's mom is Bonnie.
And Dwayne, here's the other guy.
You ready for this?
I don't know if you even know this.
Dwayne Allman from the Allman Brothers.
I had no idea.
He's in Derek and the Dominoes.
That really is a super group.
Yeah.
So Eric Clapton wrote the first part.
This piano part is Jim Gordon.
But there is quite a bit of controversy surrounding who really wrote this piano part because
Rita Coolidge
was Jim Gordon's
girlfriend at the time
and there are some publications
that suggest that this is
actually credited to Rita Coolidge.
So, I have
no idea. I wasn't there. Maybe
they co-conspired to
create this beautiful piano coda.
But this is the only studio album from Derek and the Dominoes.
And this is their big jam, Layla.
And it's fucking awesome.
It's a great song.
Really good song.
Shout out to Martin Scorsese and the Goodfellas.
Yeah, yeah.
It's good.
Absolutely.
Are you ready?
Good one.
Elvis.
I like your jams, you know.
Normally you bring me five shitty jams and I'm like, we suck.
They're not five shitty jams.
But that Hunger Strike I love.
And I love this song.
You ready?
Yeah.
You going to be playing this on your drive home?
It's a driving song.
It's fantastic.
But you have a hard on for Chris Cornell.
And that's because he's a great vocalist.
He's a great rock star.
And shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Lost him too soon.
It's so good.
It makes me want to cry.
Do it. My road has been
I was lost in the cities
Alone in the hills
The sorrow, pity
Only they fear Listen.
I am now your carpet ride I am the sky
I fucking love this guy, man.
It kills me that he...
It's a bad choice of words.
It just kills me that he...
You miss him.
Addiction is such a fucking bitch, man.
Addiction or a mental health?
Yeah, I mean,
you combine the two of them and it's shitty.
But this is, of course, Chris Cornell, lead
singer of Soundgarden, along with
the members of
Rage Against the Machine.
I can't remember what
the lead singer guy is, but basically
Well, the lead's not there.
Yeah, it's Rage Against the Machine.
Yeah, it's Rage the lead's not there yeah it's rage yeah it's rage against the machine with chris singing right uh chris wrote all the vocals for these guys um
and they're all credited with writing the music they got back together in 2017 and were touring and this to me excuse me the
it's audio slave is not like some of the other bands that i've played or that i chose or as i
thought of like they are a legit band on their own you know like they have multiple albums
multiple songs i could you could go on and play like songs. Sure. You could go on and play like a...
Yeah, a lot of great stuff.
You could go on and play like a best hits of Audioslave and sit there for, you know, a couple of hours.
Whereas some of these other bands that are quote unquote super groups, they have one or two big hits.
Like Derek and the Dominoes has one album.
Yeah, which is, you know, or Temple of the Dog even, right?
Right.
And my next one actually, yeah.
But, man, i love these guys i i love and i hear um morello has a show on serious and
he talks about chris all the time like clearly these guys loved each other and they were going
to make a lot more music which it i mean it really just sucks i love chris so cornell had all those
great like acoustic covers oh Oh, so good.
He did Nothing Compares to You and Billie Jean.
Yeah, Chris is special.
Yeah, Nothing Compares to You. Chris is special.
Absolutely.
Like I said, he's top five for me, man.
It's Chris, it's Gord, it's Prince, it's Elvis, and it's Freddie.
Freddie Mercury.
Those are my top five vocalists that I could just spend hours
and hours and hours listening to over and over again.
And for
what Chris just connects
with me. Morello is also
part of another super group, of course, with
my friend FOTM
Chuck D. He's in Prophets of Rage, right?
He is. Hey, I'm going to quickly...
Well, you know,
I feel like if I DM'd him, he'd reply and I'd know it was him.
Like it wouldn't be like his fiance or something.
Fiance.
I want to say hello to HeyRef, who's on the live chat right now as well.
And of course, I mentioned Andrew Ward.
Good to see you there, buddy.
Happy Festivus.
Happy Festivus to everybody.
Let's go
So when Chris Cornell takes his own life
Do we know that for sure though?
Was that confirmed? It was, right?
Yeah, he hanged himself, right?
I thought it was
I thought it was fuzzy at first
As to like whether or not
It was an accidental thing
No, the fuzzier one I think is
In Excess Guy is a fuzzy one, right?
Because he was into erotic asphyxiation.
Michael Hutchence.
Michael Hutchence, right.
I enjoyed In Excess back in the day.
Yeah, Kick was another playthrough.
I'm a big In Excess guy.
I did listen to that again recently,
and it's...
It's very 80s.
Yeah, but... Sometimes 80s but sometimes you kick
sometimes you get kicked come
on come on he had a bit of that Mick Jagger
swagger though like a front man
going on there and new sensation
and I'm sorry
so good
at the memorial for Chris Cornell
Chester Bennington sings Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen.
Really?
Right, yes.
Are you a big...
Were you a big...
Linkin Park.
No.
You're saying Linkin Park?
Everyone's a big Leonard Cohen fan.
I was at a mural in Montreal three weeks ago.
No, were you upset when Chester died?
Well, that's where i'm going here
man oh sorry so chester who is bffs with chris cornell really tight he sings uh hallelujah at
the memorial or the funeral i guess yes shout out to ridley funeral and then on the birthday
it's such a great thing i love it chris cor's birthday. Chester Bennington takes his own life.
Yeah.
Yep.
Like.
Yeah.
Wow.
Okay.
Deal.
There's clearly a lot of stuff going on.
Everybody, you know, if you're going through something, talk to somebody.
Talk to somebody, man.
I would say that Elvis's DMs are open, but he's not on Twitter.
So you have to hunt him down on another.
A buddy of mine posted about a story
about his mom passing away recently on LinkedIn.
And I just commented and said,
I think I know what you're going through.
My only advice is just keep talking about it.
Yeah.
Just keep talking about it to someone,
not to yourself.
Because when you talk to anything about yourself,
you can twist things.
I was like, so I mentioned Donovan Bailey earlier,
but his co-host Jason Portwanda was over here.
He came over earlier because our friend Donovan was late
and we had a long chat.
And he's really struggling.
And I had a long talk with Jason.
But do you know this gentleman named Twitch?
Yeah.
So, yeah.
He's really, like, this is one that's really hit him hard.
And I know my wife and my oldest daughter also, you know,
it's because there's a presentation on Instagram of this really happy guy
with his beautiful family and he's dancing and making people smile.
And it's so hard to, like, take that image and then understand that he was,
you know, struggling with depression and then he chose to take his own life.
Like it's so hard to,
to rectify all that.
So,
uh,
it's,
uh,
talk about it.
Talk about it.
Just talk about it with someone,
people,
please.
Absolutely.
Elvis.
Someone loves you.
And you know what?
If you don't think anyone loves you,
I love you.
Jesus loves you.
I do.
I love you.
I love you,
Mike.
Do you?
Yeah.
I believe you love me,
but do you love everyone?
I love the people who are listening to you. Do you love Hayref? Yeah. Love Hayref. I love you. I love you, Mike. Do you? I believe you love me, but do you love everyone else? I love the people who are listening to this show.
Do you love Hayref? Yeah, I love Hayref.
I love Hayref. Okay. Love you.
All right.
I don't know if he's a man. I said I love you, man.
I don't know if he's a man.
I am also guilty of assuming gender
on Hayref.
What do I know?
Okay, so this is another...
This is all kind of cut from the same cloth,
but at least I did Derek and the dominoes a little earlier jam and I got
some different stuff coming up,
but here's my second super group jam.
Do we grow?
Do we really hit our stride in the nineties or something?
I did Derek and the Dominoes.
Yeah, you did.
You're the one who's...
Although I'm a highway is post-90s.
I think that's 2000s.
Is it?
I think so.
Yeah, because Soundgarden was 90s,
but Audio Slave is 2000s.
You're right.
I just associate...
We have three different decades.
There are only two from the 90s,
Hunger Strike and this one.
But they're cut from the same grunge
cloth via these gems.
We're wearing plaid right now.
Fucking love grunge, buddy.
Yeah.
Ask Monica.
I am stuck in the 90s. That's all I listen to, man.
For the most part.
Can you hit the post on this?
No.
I wouldn't be on this podcast.
My pain is self-chosen.
Speaking of great vocalists,
okay?
Awesome.
Lane fucking Staley.
Yeah. That fucking Staley. Yeah.
That guy went hard.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Some of the stories about him.
Oh, well, yeah.
There's an addict.
You remember Kay's Choice, Not an Addict?
That was a great jam, too.
Kay's Choice.
Okay.
Okay. Okay. The sea goes down The only direction it goes down
Down, oh, down
But listening to these songs, do you think we're sad, Elvis?
Like, I'm so into this jam and it's so sad. Yeah, I mean, no, I don't think we're sad elvis like uh like like i'm so into this jam and it's so sad
yeah i mean no i don't think we're sad do you think we're sad is that are we sad like no
why are we sad we learn what we like what we like isn't abba a super group like why are we i mean
they're on the things i was going to talk about okay i'm not kicking out abba no i didn't either
because i didn't know those bands okay Okay, so. Talk about these guys.
River of Deceit is the song.
The band is called Mad Season.
They only released the one album, much like my first selection.
So who's in Mad Season that makes them a super group?
Both Lane Staley is singing this song.
Yeah.
Lead singer for Alice in Chains.
Yeah.
Do you know who else is on in Mad Season?
Can you name anyone else from Mad Season?
Not off the top of my head.
And I have the page open, but I'm going to be honest and say I don't remember. I like honesty.
I appreciate honesty on the show.
Mike McCready from Pearl Jam.
Yeah.
That's the second member of Pearl Jam that has appeared in our super group countdown.
So two bands have appeared twice. Soundgarden and Pearl Jam that has appeared in our super group countdown. That's true. So two bands have appeared twice.
Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, yes?
Well, Soundgarden
has only appeared once.
I mean, in the sense
that Chris Cornell
was a member of Soundgarden
and as a member of...
Oh, no, you're absolutely right.
You're right.
I should...
Yeah, you're right.
You kicked out two
Chris Cornell.
And Pearl Jam appeared twice.
Ed Vedder and Mike McCready here.
Also,
there's also other,
other people.
Yeah.
Mad season.
Okay.
So Barrett Martin is from,
I'm not familiar with Skinyard,
but of course I do know Screaming Tree.
Yeah.
Screaming Tree is underrated.
I bought their CD back in the day and totally underappreciated it until much later.
Cause I had him on the single soundtrack.
I bought the Screaming Trees CD.
I remember.
Also, you got your friends on there too, Pearl Jam and Chris Cornell's on there.
It was his solo song.
What was that song called?
It was pretty good.
It's really good.
Summer something.
No, let me think.
Where's that another song?
That's another one.
It was like a sweet little solo ditty by Chris Cornell.
You'll tell me in a minute.
I should know because I have Chris Cornell's Essentials as like a repeat on my...
I love the single soundtrack.
Fucking great.
Okay.
It's John Baker Saunders also from The Walk of Us.
Seasons.
Seasons.
Yeah.
Great song.
Great song.
Fucking great song.
Okay.
Layne Staley has been replaced in alice in chains and i have seen
alice in chains live with the new lead singer really and uh it sounds ridiculously similar
but part of the deal with not on this song because there's he's not there but jerry cantrell would do
this like um he would interweave his voice with lane on a lot of those alice in chains songs so
jerry just interweaves his voice of the new guy.
And that tonage that sounds very Alice in Chains-y,
like Jerry Cantrell is sort of a key part of that.
Is it like Journey?
Like, can you tell?
Is it like Journey?
Because it's that Filipino kid, right?
The Filipino guy in Journey, though,
you don't hear him on the radio.
You don't see him live.
So it's a different story.
And you don't hear what's-his- You don't see him live. It's a different story. And you don't hear, what's his name either?
The guy from American Idol with Queen.
Oh no, yeah, right. So there are some people
who do it in concert and live, but they don't
actually get recordings on the radio.
Right, right, right.
But Alice in Chains did have radio hits
with a new guy.
Blue and,
black and blue. Anyway, they had
a couple of jams that cfny was playing
that i would hear from the new alice in chains of the new zinger okay i miss lane stale a lot
of dead people by the way i said this to bob willett the other day when he was here because
he's a big pearl jam guy pearl jam's like the last band we have from that era where nobody's died
like nobody in pearl jam has died but people people, you know, Smashing Pumpkins lost somebody. Hole lost somebody.
I mean, Alice in Chains lost somebody.
Soundgarden lost somebody.
You know, Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots
is long gone.
Mud Honey.
Mud, that's what, yeah, kicked off,
yeah, the whole thing.
So, but yeah, Lane Staley.
Lane Staley.
Lane Staley.
His death story is crazy.
Is that because it took days to discover him?
Two weeks.
The bank noticed that he wasn't using his bank.
It was manager noticed that nothing had been withdrawn from his account for two weeks.
Right.
And he called his mom.
And his mom hadn't heard from him either.
And so she called 911.
And then they found him.
But it's not even that.
It's that he was six feet tall and he only weighed about 86 pounds when they found him.
It's off addiction.
It's horrible.
Horrible stuff.
Awful stuff.
Anyway.
I'm now looking.
This will be your third jam and it also includes another somebody who's no longer with us.
So there's a lot of dead people in your jams.
Here we go. It's been a long year since you've been gone
I've been alone here, I've grown old
I've fallen to pieces, I've fallen
Fell to pieces and I'm still falling
Every time I'm falling down
All alone I'm falling to pieces
So this is Velvet Revolver.
Yes, sir.
Which was a big deal super group because in many other super groups, you have like one member who's big.
Even Audioslave, Morello never...
Morello's not Slash, but he's still a big
fucking deal. He's a big deal, but he's still
sort of like more in the
background. That's not even
fair to say, but you know what I mean? He's not Slash.
You had
the members of Guns N' Roses
minus Axl Rose
take Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots and form this massive, massive group. Okay, but it's not all Guns N' Roses minus Axl Rose take Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots
and form this massive
group. Okay, but it's not all Guns N' Roses, right?
And then there's one other guy from
Wasted Youth.
So it's Duff McKagan
Slash and Matt Sorum
from
GNR. Guns N' Roses. Dave
Kushner from Wasted Youth
and then Scott Weiland from Stone Temple Pilots.
Wow.
And they were together for a lot longer than I thought.
2002 until 2008.
Well, I saw them at the Molson Amphitheater.
Oh, you did?
Yeah.
I saw Velvet Revolver.
It was 2002 to 2008.
You know what I liked about Velvet Revolver?
Because you got the Velvet Revolver, but then they also did the Guns and Roses, and they
did the Stone Temple Pilot.
Yeah.
Like, we got patience, and it was, like, fucking amazing.
And Scott, I really like Scott's voice as well.
Yeah, me too.
So, with these guys, though, I would say their success was a lot more limited than other supergroups, in the sense that there's maybe one or two recognizable songs i would say even now
they released a number of albums but they didn't really have any super hits you sure right they
have this one but but yes this was a big and there was a bigger faster hit before this like i'm now
i'm drawing a blank i have to go quickly slither yeah that's what you're thinking slither was a
big big radio jam anyway yeah i'm not i know But it's not like they didn't have multiple...
You couldn't sit down and listen to them for hours at a time, I don't think.
So that's my opinion anyway.
So good band, awesome people in it.
I love what they had, but I would say that they're not the biggest of the supergroups that we've played.
But a big fucking band.
And what's his name?
Can you imagine the rider and all the pomp and circumstance
that would go along with getting these guys on stage?
Oh, my gosh.
Okay, to tie this together a little bit is that at some point,
they try to replace Scott in...
Because that band, Stone Temple Pilots, was the brothers, right?
That was like their band.
Yeah, they're still going, aren't they?
Sure, I think Chester Bennington was the lead singer for a while.
Jeez.
Who, of course, it all comes back full circle here.
I believe Chester Bennington was the lead singer of Stone Temple Pilots for a bit.
I think.
My memory thinks that happened.
Jeff Gutt is the new lead singer.
Whoever that is. I don't know jeff gutt who's i love stone i've seen them several times i loved stone temple pilot he was a former
lead vocalist of new metal band dry cell okay okay okay yeah the dalio brothers there it is
it's their band yeah it's their band yes and Chester Bennington was the singer. You're right.
I forgot about that.
Never forget.
All right.
So that is actually much like your,
I am the highway.
That's like an early two thousands thing,
I think with a,
with velvet revolver,
but let's kick out some can con because I'm looking at our jam so far.
There's no Canadian content to speak of.
Let's rectify that immediately.
Steve wants to know
if Wham is a super group.
Is Wham a super group?
No, because they wouldn't have come from groups previous.
I don't think so.
What's his name go to, though?
Did he go anywhere, the other guy?
Andrew Ridgely is his name.
Yeah, did he go anywhere else?
No.
And I just want to point out to Kev that
tiers are not enough is ineligible.
We're not counting these charity groups.
They're not bands.
Do you know this song, Elvis?
I can't say that I do.
I thought I did.
This is my favorite song from Broken Social Scene.
Oh, yes.
Yes, I know this song. my favorite song from Broken Social Scene. Oh, yes!
Yes, I know this song.
Tell us more. They just said the F
word right there. Okay.
This is gonna
take a while, so you got your beer,
you're comfy, I'll fade this down.
I'm gonna actually name check
the members of Broken Social Scene
over the years
okay this is like
a consortium
like a collective
right
it's really
this is just one
giant super group
okay
hit me
Kevin Drew
was from a band
called Casey Accidental
Kevin Drew
then Brendan Canning
by Divine Right
I've had members
of by Divine Right
on the show
Head
with two H's shout out
to noah mince and valley of the giants so brennan canyon you got him there okay i will actually
start to cherry pick i realize there's too many but let's uh i mean leslie feist showed up she's
got some solo success but emily haynes can you name emily haynes's big band. Metric. Emily Haynes. By the way, Emily's sister is
an FOTM, Avery Haynes.
Emily Haynes from Metric and James Shaw
from Metric.
People from S.T.A.R.S. were members
of Broken Social Scene at some point.
You got Amy Milan. You got
Tork Campbell, who's an FOTM.
You got Bill Priddle from
Treble Charger and a whole bunch of other
stuff. There's a lot going on here
a lot of stars people
who else will I pick on here
Julie Penner
who's the glue
holding it all together
that would be
Drew
Kevin Drew
and Brendan Canning
are the glue
they're the glue
they're absolutely the glue
but you got
Mitch Bowden
you got
from Sons of Butcher
and
a whole bunch of like,
Jason Tate from The Weaker Thans.
Is this by design?
Yeah, like it was always
a come in and out,
like you'd come in and out.
I had this chat with Tor Campbell,
like you can float in and out
of Broken Social Scene
as long as I think Kevin Drew
and Brendan Canney,
but it's like a collective,
a consortium,
but I would say, and Jason Collette,
let's not forget him, of course, as well.
But this is definitely a super group,
in my humble opinion.
Super of super groups, I would say.
Yeah, there's a whole bunch.
There's some people in this fucking band,
I don't even recognize their name.
I think you might have been in the band for a little while.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, Elvis.
I've been in bands before i'm not remembering i think i'm trying to remember now my noah mince chat but i believe he uh i don't think he produced this song because they had a
different they produced it but he mastered this record i believe so gotcha noah mince you know
noah mince takes credit for um for brendan canning's career so by the way
you would enjoy the noam mince episode of toronto mike because he goes off on gian gomeshi who he
went to high school with oh really it's pretty good yeah interesting good what is he doing these
days he's doing a podcast uh on about his um wise blood explained it to me as it was... It's like... It's for the Persian community.
Oh, okay.
Because he's a member of the Persian community.
Okay.
Which is a fancy way of saying Iranian.
Am I saying that right?
Iranian?
Iranian, right.
Shout out to the Iron Sheik.
I don't think he was Iranian.
No?
I don't think so.
Well, Nikolai Volkov was Ukrainian.
I learned that.
But born in the U.S., I believe.
Baltimore or something like that.
But can we find out?
I'm looking up Iron Sheik.
I think he is Iranian.
No?
Oh, yeah, because he was in the...
Find out for me.
This is important.
He won.
He beat...
Yeah, he was a heavyweight champion in the world, Nick,
before, I think, WrestleMania 3 or something. He was from the imperial state of iran yeah i take it back and he's buddies
of stew stone i think i mean who isn't but uh stew's got a connection with the iron cheek he
and what did he yeah he was in was in the Olympics for Iran in Mexico.
So the real wrestling.
Yes, but that was also when he, oh yeah, he did.
That was 1980.
He carried around a gold medal, but I think the implication was that he was an Olympic gold medalist, but really it was he won something
somewhere else. Much like we
talk about all these rock stars we're kicking out,
and thankfully I don't think anyone's actually
dead from a broken social scene, but
we've been kicking out a lot of these bands, and a lot of
their members are gone, dead.
Heroin and all these terrible
things. And you picked a band with like
the most amount of members and none of them are dead right i don't think any of them are dead
that's awesome now uh where was i going to that oh yeah similarly like the wrestling world the
professional wrestling world has uh like a high death rate like there's so many of the wrestlers
we grew up with have died from just also addiction issues but also like
steroids
and alcoholism
and
mental health issues
just the like
being on the road
like it's a tough living
like it wears you down
or whatever
and it's a tough go
but here's
that's Iron Sheik
still with us
so
surprisingly
so Elvis
he's very active on Twitter
and he's very active
and very funny
and he's
he's enjoying his
his living years.
So I will admit this one, I stretched the rules a little bit.
Okay.
I'm looking forward to chastising you for that.
I will say my mom loved this song.
That's what you need to know about this song.
Who didn't love this song when it came out?
I don't know.
It was a bit cheesy, but I mean, whatever.
It's a good song.
Who didn't love this song?
I want names.
I want names.
Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door
I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him In the living Maybe I picked it because I'm sad about my dad dying.
I don't know.
How long has your dad been dead?
Two and a half years.
It's weird.
In the last six months, he's appeared in Dreams of Mine almost weekly.
Very strange.
Well, we should talk about this.
Perhaps that's why I picked it. But I like the song. almost weekly. Very strange. Well, we should talk about this.
Perhaps that's why I picked it.
But I liked the song.
It also reminds me of,
when did this come out?
Early 90s, right?
No, I think it's late 80s.
Yeah.
So it reminds me of this time of music that was not where I would generally go to now.
And so it reminds me of a younger, more innocent Elvis.
But it's just a good song.
I like it.
Just a good song.
It's kind of like this song and Boys of Summer reminds me of...
Boys of Summer, yeah, reminds me of...
It doesn't remind me because I don't need to be reminded.
But I think of my son when I... Because he talks about, it's also a father song, right?
Right.
I think.
Anyway, this is a little bit of a stretch, I would say, because it's ultimately Mike Rutherford.
Sure.
Who comes from Genesis.
Yes.
Right?
Do you like Genesis?
That's a question from Andrew Ward, by the way.
I must credit the question asked. I don't know
if I would change the channel if Genesis came on,
but I wouldn't actively put them on
the radio.
Or listen
to a Genesis song on my phone.
I feel like if you were a prog rock Genesis
fan, you would be disgusted
at this song.
Do you think? Yeah, I feel like this is pretty
cheesy, poppy stuff.
But
the sentiment is beautiful.
Clearly why he left Genesis.
Because he wasn't vibing with what they do.
I don't know. Anyway,
so the bands that they come from are Sad Cafe
and Roachford,
which is where this is like, you know.
Okay, but you said you needed at least two bands
that you're familiar with. I know, I know. This is where I'm stretching it, right?
Because it's not, it's really just,
and when you look at the personnel over the years,
it's really just his band.
And he brings in people to come and play with him and stuff.
You're an Apple TV guy, right?
Technically a super group, but really stretching it.
And he has different singers for each song, right? Like, this is a guy,
am I right? Like, All I Need is a Miracle
is a different singer.
All I need is a miracle.
That's really their two most popular
songs. Are you handsome?
Do you watch anything
that's on Apple TV?
Not really.
Hold on one second. Here's what
pushed me over the edge in terms of saying like,
hey, yeah, these guys are legit.
They have...
Nine albums.
So these guys have, you know, all the way up to 2019.
So, okay, I have lots of ground I want to cover here.
Quickly, I'll just reference that there's a series on Apple that I've been watching called 1971.
Oh, okay.
And I'm digging it.
And they play the original Land of Confusion because that's a cover.
Do you know that?
I do not.
Genesis Land of Confusion is a cover?
Yeah.
Anyway, they play the original in that song.
But your dad, back to your dad.
So, you know, your dad's showing up at Dreams.
Yeah.
On a weekly basis.
Is that just because you're missing him? I don't know. Like is that just on a weekly basis you're missing him I don't know
like you want to
chat with him
and you can't
I don't know
I really don't know
I don't
really
I don't think I do
we didn't
we didn't have a bad relationship
we didn't have a great relationship either
but would you
when he was alive
would you chat with him
about things that were bugging you
no sometimes we'd go like
a month too
without talking
not cause you know
of any reason other than just that wasn't our relationship.
But I don't know what it is.
But I think of, I never associated this song with my dad,
but when I was doing the research for this, I was like, oh, yeah.
This song, yeah.
This is a song that if it came on, I would keep on and turn up.
That's also dating me
because who listens to the fucking radio anymore?
By the way, just catching up on
this vibrant chat here.
Oh, good. Great.
The Iron Sheik had a close relationship
with cocaine.
Used to or still does?
Used to. Based on his tweets, I would say
he might still.
Canada Kev says, not the same dad from No Son of Mine
because that was a big Phil Collins song, right?
Was that Genesis or Phil Collins?
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
Okay, so Mike and the Mechanics, Living Years,
a song my mom loved and good for you.
So the term we use on Toast and Pandemic Fridays
before that would be if there was an obvious pick and nobody would pick it at the end, we'd say, oh, it got Hanson.
Like that term came from the fact that we did a few topics where an obvious pick would be Hanson and none of us picked Hanson.
Like we literally did like brothers bands or something and no one picked Hanson and we did boy bands and no one picked Hanson.
Anyway, this song, I didn't want it to get Hanson.
Are you ready?
Yeah, this might, I didn't want it to get Hanson'd. Are you ready? Yeah.
This might be the song.
It's not the radio edit.
It's a longer version.
This is...
Yeah.
And it's also not the first single, Handle With Care.
This is the second single.
Like I said said an extended version
so wait for it It's alright, it's alright, going to the end of the line.
Well, it's all right Riding around in the breeze
Well, it's all right
If you live the life you please
Well, it's all right
Doing the best you can
Well, it's all right
As long as you lend a hand
You can sit around
And wait for the phone to ring
End of the line
Waiting for someone
To tell you everything
End of the line
Sit around and wonder
What tomorrow will bring
End of the line Maybe a diamond ring
Well, it's all right
Even if they say you're wrong
Well, it's all right
Love it.
Okay, what a super group.
This is the super group, okay?
Wow.
It's crazy.
Like, how did this happen?
How did this happen? This is the one of two bands i omitted from my list because okay so it's too obvious not that it's too obvious
but these two this band and another are just in a class of their own okay so let's name check the
members of the traveling wilburys you know them. And they had two albums.
Two? I thought it was one.
There's a Traveling Wilburys Volume 3.
Yes, yes.
But isn't that...
Which came out in 1990.
And Volume 3, of course,
is missing the Somebody Who who died after Volume 1.
So there's no Volume 2.
It's all very confusing.
The follow-up to Volume 1 is Volume 3,
which is like when you go to the movies to see Leonard Part 6,
and you're like, I got to see the first five.
This was great.
And then you're disappointed.
Okay, so somebody died.
In fact, this video does not feature one of the traveling Wilburys
because he died before they filmed this video,
and therefore there's like when his part comes on,
I think they show like a picture of him or something like that
or maybe his sunglasses or something.
But let's get to this.
This is a big fucking jam.
You ever heard of George Harrison?
Rolling Stones?
George Harrison, believe it or not, a member of the Beatles.
The Beatles, those four mop tops from England.
George Harrison is in this band.
I believe when he had his comeback with like Cloud Nine.
You remember Cloud Nine?
I actually owned it.
It was his big comeback album.
Yeah, yeah.
I should have done homework. I think that 9? I actually owned it. It was his big comeback album. Yeah, yeah. I should have done homework.
I think that was produced by Jeff Lynne.
Okay, that's how my memory has it.
Jeff Lynne had a really substantial place
at his Hall of Fame induction.
So I believe Jeff Lynne produces it,
and I believe Jeff Lynne maybe produces
the Tom Petty stuff too,
and he had his big comeback too
with all that free falling and all that.
Okay,
so let me quickly name check the rest of the
Traveling Wilburys.
George Harrison
from the Beatles.
Huge.
Bob Dylan.
Huge.
Solo artist.
Tom Petty.
Huge.
Huge.
Jeff Lynn.
Huge.
From the Electric Light Orchestra
and
Huge.
Roy Orbison
huge
who died you know
before they filmed this video
he was kind of in the crux of a big comeback
huge comeback
because partially because of
Julia Roberts
Pretty Woman soundtrack
and then he had that album
Anything She Wants You Got It and Mystery Girl pretty woman soundtrack yeah yeah and then he had that album uh anything she wants you got it
because q was playing all this new stuff by and it was really good album actually and then he
up and dies like i think he's like 54 when he dies like he's he's like young he was
signed by sam phillips of sun records which sir....who also signed Elvis right around the same time.
In 56, he was signed by...
Well, can you name the...
Can you name the Million Dollar Quartet?
Elvis, Roy...
I actually...
Johnny Cash,
and the guy who just died,
Great Balls of Fire guy.
See, I don't think Roy
is in the Million Dollar Quartet.
I don't think he's in it.
I think it's Carl...
Or it might be the guy who did Carl Perkins.
Yeah, Carl Perkins.
You're right.
Yeah, and Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Johnny Cash, and Elvis Presley.
That's crazy.
Yeah.
So to me, the Traveling Wilburys is one of the quintessential.
When you think of super bands or super groups.
Super groups.
Super groups.
Why are you saying super bands?
Yeah, this is the band.
100%. 100%. one of the two this is the like the and you know probably bigger than not bigger than the other one
but more like modern day gravitas yeah well let's face it when when when i think of super group this
is actually the first band i think of like like these like the beatles bob dylan tom petty jeff
crazy roy orbison How did this happen?
I think they're all hanging around in California.
Maybe Petty's album's coming out and Lynne is producing it
and maybe he's hanging out in George Harrison's buddies of Lynne.
He pops by and then maybe they're like,
hey, Bob Dylan's down the street.
Bring him here.
We're jamming.
And who knows how Roy gets in there.
I think it's just like, hey, let's do something together.
I think, what's his name?
Knew a lot of people.
Jeff Lynn?
I think he's like the glue.
But Tom Petty too.
Tom Petty knows a lot of people.
Or knew a lot of people.
He's like the kid in this group.
I fucking love Tom Petty.
And then let's review though
because we're down to two.
And one's in his 80s. So George Harrison, of course, gone too soon. kid in this group. We fucking love Tom Petty. And then let's review though because we're down to two. Yeah.
And one's in his 80s.
So George Harrison
of course gone too
soon.
Roy Orbison he didn't
even get to the
filming of this video.
Okay.
Tom Petty there was a
shocker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was brutal.
That was a shocker.
Great documentary
about him.
Yeah.
You're right.
Yeah.
Great documentary.
It's like four hours
long but it's damn
great.
It is great.
So we're down to Bob Dylan who I think is like 82 or something. Yeah. 82're right. It's like four hours long, but it's damn good. It is great. So we're down to Bob Dylan,
who I think is like 82 or something.
Jerry Lynn.
Jeff Lynn.
Jerry is his brother, I think.
How is your brother Jerry Seinfeld?
He's good. He's doing well.
Alright, brother. You will be here all night, so let's get
to your final jam.
Any words to say before I kick it out,
or do you just want to listen and then we'll talk?
I like this song. Listen to the wind blow
Watch the sun rise
Run in the shadow
damn your love
damn your lies
and if you don't
love me now
you will never love me again
I can still hear you say you will never break the chain
so i'm not a huge fan of country.
But here, and if you were to, you know, I already said who my top five vocalists are, and they're all men.
Yet here I am choosing a group of four country superstars covering a very risky song, I think.
Not only because we just had a recent
passing of somebody from this group right christine mcvee but also because this is just an iconic song
for sure by an iconic iconic band and sung by an iconic female singer however this is the High Women, a play on a male version, a male super country group.
And admittedly, I only know two out of the four members.
Okay, name check them all.
I'll tell you if I know them.
Brandi Carlile is an amazing singer, I think.
I really enjoy her.
I know Maren Morris only because she's had a few pop hits that my daughters really like.
I can't remember the song.
I know the name from like, I don't know, a Grammy Awards or something.
Yeah, she's more poppy than she is country, I would say.
But she sort of does like the reverse of the Taylor Swift, I think.
I don't know.
Maybe she does the Taylor Swift thing.
Because Taylor Swift came from the country back then, right?
Yes, sir.
And then you've got Natalie Hemby.
Do not know that name.
And Amanda Shires.
Amanda Shires is an amazing fiddler.
She plays the fiddle at the end of this song.
I like the fiddle.
And so...
Shout out to Kendall Carson, my favorite female fiddler.
They've all had success independently.
A bunch of them have won awards as well.
But this is sort of a super group amongst country music.
Well, it's definitely a super group, but did they release an album?
Yes, they did.
They've released one album and three singles, I believe.
Five singles.
Honorary member,
Sheryl Crow.
Wow.
There you go.
Wow.
If they weren't super before,
they are after that.
Sheryl fucking Crow.
Also a great duet with the great Kid Rock.
For those of you at
home, it's worth
a Google to
find this live version
that they recorded in Howard Stern's studio.
It's quite good.
The visuals are
quite good as well.
I like watching live music.
But they do well.
I like the song.
No, it's great.
Yeah, The Chain is a great song.
It's a good cover.
The Train is a great song.
So here, we're going to roll right out of your jam into mine, okay?
Do it.
So here we go.
I am a shadow
You keep us together
I am a shadow
Those vocals at the end, so good.
Keep us together I am a shadow Those vocals at the end, so good. I was a highwayman
Along the coach roads I did ride
Look at that.
Look at what you did there.
Well done.
I did that.
Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade
Well done.
Did you plan that after you saw my list?
I changed my order based on your list.
Very good.
I was going to close with the Wilburys, but...
I saw the High Woman on your list.
Sailor. Sailor.
Sailor.
I don't actually know all the members of this band.
This is a super group, brother.
What a super group.
I'm going to get the mainsail in a blow
And when the yards broke off they said that I got killed
But I'm living still
I was a dam building
Across a river deep and wide
Where steel and water did collide
A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado
I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below
They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound This song was covered by Danny Graves at TMLXX.
He performed Highwayman
Acoustic
Under the Night Sky
and it was beautiful.
You would have loved it.
Okay, I'm going to name check
the members of the Highwaymen here.
You may recognize
these guys too.
Yeah, I mean,
this is the country.
This is like the Avengers.
Like, you know,
this is the country version
of the Wilburys.
It's amazing. Yes, absolutely. Right, because the Wilburys. It's amazing.
Yes, absolutely.
Right, because the Wilburys are rock.
Yeah.
These guys are country.
This is the biggest country supergroup.
Yeah, it's huge.
When you hear these names.
Johnny Cash.
Who?
Unbelievable.
Johnny Cash is in this band.
Waylon Jennings.
And if you're not sure if you know any Waylon Jennings. And if you're not sure
if you know any
Waylon Jennings,
you probably do,
but you know what
you definitely do know?
Just a good old boy
never meanin' no harm.
That Dukes of Hazzard theme
is Waylon Jennings.
Yeah, it is.
And he's the guy,
and in fact,
I know he's the guy.
He's the guy who
lost the coin toss
or whatever,
drew the short straw,
and wasn't allowed to fly with Buddy Holly
and Big Bopper and Jesse.
Ah, yes.
And Richie Valens.
He had to take the bus,
which means he got to survive the day the music died.
But he froze his ass off.
He froze his ass.
Yeah, it was cold on that bus.
This is a, yeah.
North, yeah, this was like Dakota or something.
North Dakota or something. dakota or something anyway
they're like minus 45 right now okay waylon jennings johnny cash willie nelson legend
still with us by the way he is as of uh 9 14 p.m okay chris christopherson yeah that's the big yeah it's crazy it's that is a huge huge band
that's a massive band that's a super group for you uh unbelievable and they released uh i think
three albums in total yes but this was their big smash hit so we did not pick what many would many
people would say is the most i don't know know how to describe them, but the most,
perhaps most obvious super group
of all time? The biggest super group of all
time? Okay, slow down. I want to guess.
I want to guess. Is this an
American group? Is this a British group?
Where are they from? They're not
American. They're not American. Okay.
The biggest super
group...
Do you got any clues for me uh we've played one of the members
at least once i think or we talked about him at least did we play him i don't did we play him i
can't remember okay we talked about him that's a little a little tough there uh what what decade 70s 60s 60s 60s 60s so i'm gonna guess the
guy because i considered playing a jam from them crosby stills nash and young but that's of course
that is american except for neil young who's right that would be another big band that was
not chosen but not the one i'm thinking of different when you look at most lists
willberries and cream did you do that i purposely didn't want to look at the list, Wilburys and Cream. Did you do that?
I purposely didn't want to look at the list.
I didn't.
I'm looking at it now.
Okay.
So give me a clue.
I kind of sort of started the name,
but this band and the Wilburys sort of flip-flop one and two.
Wow.
They're a British band.
Old school.
One guy is the guy who had significant success after as well.
Oh, David Cloverdale is the guy.
You're talking about Deep Purple.
No.
Tell me.
I give up.
Cream.
Cream.
Okay, yeah.
Jack Bruce, Eric Clapton.
We did kick out Eric Clapton because he's in Derek and the Dominoes.
And Ginger Baker.
Right.
Three iconic guys who came together,
and they're credited with,
forget about whether or not they're the biggest or the best or whatever,
they're credited as the first super group.
I would argue that they're also one of the best.
And so in my mind, when I sat down to put together the list,
I said, I'm not going to choose any songs from Cream
or Traveling Wilburys because it's too,
obvious isn't the right word.
And also, these are your favorite jams.
Right.
I can actually only off the top of my head think of one big Cream song.
I know that's going to be sacrilege and people are going to be very upset with me,
but these are not big top 40 North American hits coming out of uh there uh well i'm i'm looking up here
i mean you're yeah i mean you have to be of a certain vintage okay white room right crossroads
but the one i always think of is sunshine of your love like that's the one i always think of but you
know oh they have a song called uh strange brew which is a great great movie and you should see
the you should listen to the Dave Thomas
episode. So they had, I mean, and the 60s were such
a prolific time for a lot of bands. They had
four albums in four years, right?
So 66, 7,
8, and 9.
Well, look, I just did an
episode about the Guess Who and then it seems
like they were putting out like two or three albums a
year for a while. It's insane.
And the Beatles were doing that too in the first half of their
career particularly. Elvis
Oh, what were you going to say there?
I was just going to say Eric Clapton is the only person
alive from that band as well.
He's the only one left. Is he an
anti-vaxxer? I don't know.
I heard he might be. I might listen
to Layla on the way home. Which version?
The Eric Clapton one now that
I've heard the Derek and the Dominoes one.
Well, yeah.
The unplugged.
Yeah, the unplugged one.
And don't forget the song
about his dead kid.
That was a sad story.
His kid fell out of a window.
Like, it's tragic.
Is that what?
I don't even remember.
Yeah, he was like,
fourth floor window apartment thing
and he fell out.
We should do one
where it's like songs
that are for dead people
because then we could also do
the Elton John one.
Yeah, that was for Norma Jean.
Candle in the Wind. Yeah, for Norma Jean.
No, I'm thinking of it. He remade it for
Princess Di. But would that count as two?
Could we play that twice? Yeah.
You could play it twice.
You could play it twice. Yeah, okay.
There's a lot of good songs
for dead people. Yeah, sure.
What's the Mark
Cohen song, Walking in Memphis? Is that a song
for Elvis?
You know who does a really good cover of that is Cher.
Put on my blue suede shoes and I boarded a plane.
Cher's on my top ten.
There's a good dance version of that, too, that I was digging.
Love Cher's voice.
I like Cher's, yeah.
She's a great voice.
She didn't need the auto-tuner on Believe.
Well, maybe she did.
Although she got the number one with that.
She's getting up there.
Elvis, happy Festivus, buddy.
Happy Festivus, my friend.
May you win the feats of strength.
May the tinsel not be distracting.
And may you have the space and time to air your grievances without retribution.
And may it not be another year before I see you again.
Let's make sure we do something before then.
COVID's over now, right?
I don't know.
It is over for me.
I got rid of it a week ago.
You can make it with anybody that you want.
As far as you know, you've had it once, right?
Officially, yes.
I'm sure I've had it before, though.
We only know.
I don't know.
See, as far as I know, I've only had it once.
And it felt like, for me, it felt like a bad cold.
I never got the fevers and I never got the bed stuff.
I never missed a bike ride.
I biked through it.
I just felt congested.
I couldn't.
Monica, too.
But Monica got it and she was in bed for a bit and had some fevering.
You know, fever for me.
She's got Toronto Mike fever.
Don't you know?
Oh, dear.
Great fun. Supergroups, let us know. I don't know. Tweet at me. Don't you know? Oh, dear. Great fun.
Super groups.
Let us know.
I don't know.
Tweet at me.
Did we miss anyone?
I don't know.
I didn't look at any lists.
There were a few other ones I had here on the list that I could have mentioned.
You picked a few I was thinking of.
I was thinking right away of Velvet Revolver.
I was thinking of Audioslave.
And I was thinking of Temple of the Dog.
Those three I thought of right away.
That's kind of like where we are in our mindset, right?
We're stuck in the...
But then I said Traveling Wilburys, Highwaymen.
Emerson, Lake and Palmer is another one that we didn't play.
Right.
And I wanted to get some canned corn in there.
See ABBA, I know ABBA is a super group, but I, to me, if I don't know the bands they were
in previously.
I was just going to, but they don't really count though, right?
Because, okay, quickly.
Yeah.
I'll give you the top 10 from Rolling Stone.
Okay, go.
Because Rolling Stone in my mind is still relevant even though they're not.
Bad Company, number 10.
Okay, see, there's a good example.
Bad Company is a super group and I only think of one song from Bad Company.
Audio Slave?
Do you like making love?
Is that them?
Feel like making love.
Yep.
Feel like making love. Yep.
Feel like making love to you.
It's such a great song.
That's a great song.
Audio Slave, number nine, played them.
The Highwaymen, number eight, played them.
Mad Season, number seven, played them.
Number six, Blind Faith, another Eric Clapton band.
So it was basically Cream with Traffic, Steve Winwood from Traffic, and Rick Grouch from Family.
No, Blindspot for me.
Number five, Crosby,
Stills, Nash, and Young.
Definitely. Number four,
Them Crooked Vultures.
We totally missed them. John Homies in that?
Yeah. John Paul Jones from Led Zeppelin
and then Dave Grohl, of course. Yeah, of course.
That's a good one.
That's a big one.
That's a big miss.
Temple of the Dog.
Not a miss because we just didn't,
you know, like them enough
to put them on there.
Cream, number two,
and then Traveling World
is number one.
Temple of the Dog, Cream,
and then, okay.
Very good, Elvis.
Right?
Nothing too crazy there.
Mike and the Mechanics
was a little bit, you know,
out there, but hey.
Give him something to talk about.
It's one out of five.
Did you know the woman who sang, the woman who wrote Give Him Something to Talk About, which was a Give him something to talk about. It's one out of five. Did you know the woman who wrote
Give Him Something to Talk About,
which was a big hit for Bonnie Raitt,
she just passed away.
She's Canadian.
Really?
She died like a week ago.
Oh, what's her name?
You don't know.
You Google it while I do my little thing here.
Yeah, you do.
And that brings us to the end
of our 1,175th
show
recorded on December 22,
dropping on December 23 for Festivism.
I'm running out of song.
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See you all next week.
Shirley Eckard.