Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Food Jams #TOAST47: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1796

Episode Date: November 11, 2025

In this 1796th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 47th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette as they kick out food jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, Blue Sky Agency, Kindling, RetroFestive.ca and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail].

I really get the guy. He's doing silence for my mind. In Flanders fields the poppies blow between the crosses row on row That mark our place and in the sky the larch still bravely singing fly Scarce heard amid the guns below We are the dead short days ago we lived felt dawn saw sunset glow loved and were loved and now we lie in Flanders fields Take up our quarrel with the foe To you from falling hands we throw

The torch be yours to hold it high If ye break faith with us who die We shall not sleep Though poppies grow in Flanders fields Just toast. I'm going to think about it, so. F-O-T-M's, do you know what time it is? It's...

One, two, one. Toast time. Yeah, it is. Feat Bob Willett And Robert Drew That's toast

Sorry I didn't mean To put myself first Yeah I like just Toast I'm in Toronto Toronto VK on a beat

Check I'm in Toronto Where you want to get a city love I'm from Toronto where you want to get a city love I'm in Toronto I'm like you want to get the city love My city love me back For my city love

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And Bob Willett. I. Rhymes with Gillette. That's right. How is Rob and Bob doing today? Good. Thank you. Sorry.

Well, we pushed the time and then, of course, the time got perfect. Everything changed. I apologize. That's okay. Thank you. I arrived last night. night at, actually I got into Burlington

a little bit early, I got there at like 830 so, so my drive was good. Oh, that's not so bad. What time did you leave? I left Queens. Like, around 11 a.m. Well, that's not bad at all then. No, that's not bad. No, that's really good. Even if I drove through rain and snow and snow, I'm like a postman. That's really good time. Good for you.

Do you know what is the biggest band to ever come out of Burlington? Yeah, Spoons. Okay, what's the second biggest band? Actually, I think it's a walk off the earth. Well, that's actually in the top five for here. Nobody talks about them. You know, I listened to your finger 11 episode on the drive yesterday. Well, that's why I'm asking. And today I'm listening to an episode of another podcast with one of the guys from Silverstein,

who I like to call Silverstein. That's a big Burlington band. Yeah, apparently. But it's really, it's fun. No singles, like no radio singles. Yeah, is it, like, emo people. Apparently they call it Screamo and it makes me a lot every time people say that. Screamo is like Alexis on fire as well, which is St. Catherine.

Exactly. But it's interesting because I'm listening to each of these bands on talking about their careers. And it was a great conversation that you had with them. But I feel like we're all generationally like this is our lane, you know? Yeah, yeah. You got the 80s covered. Yeah. The spoons of the 80s covered.

And the 70s. Yeah. And Finger 11's got the night. I mean, they're not really the 90s into the 2000s. They're late 90s. There's a lot of 90s. These Silverstein guys talk about growing up in Browenton and how they admired the

Finger 11 when they were the Raid Bowl butt monkeys. We were already. You were already on Broadway. Yeah. They didn't even talk about it. It's so funny. But every generation thinks that their, their stuff is the most important thing. And it is to you when you're living it.

But when you get up and you grow up and the bigger picture is like everybody's important in their own world. And it's kind of cool to see it all happening at once. Well, I'm glad you're here because Bob and I are similar vintage. And we sort of had such similar touch points. It's going to be all pearl jam and tragically hip or whatever. Like the fact that you bring old age 70s, it's like a lot of queen and Elton John. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, you're musicians and you have an appreciation for types of music that are a little broader and you know or more and i i'm just my my upbringing same thing well what i love is that i've as i've gotten older through my whole life i've just loved listening to music and keeping up with music so i feel like it keeps me in touch with the kids like the the mamma mia band now our guitar player is 26 wow he's born in 1999 it's ridiculous that's fine and our drummer he's like one of the older guys the older guys in the band are all like mid 30s to right 40-ish yeah they're still 20 years younger than me. You know what I mean? It's hilarious. But I love it. S&L this weekend, last weekend, was somber was the name of the musical. Yeah, he's, he's, he's terrific. His life performance

was bad. His live performance was bad. His music is very good. It's very well produced. Yes. But you're right, he was weak. His vocals were weak. But he was the first artist to be on S&L who was born after Keenan Thompson started on the show. Oh my God. Yeah. That is a good fact. Yeah. That's how long, yeah. That's how long Kenan's been on. We have a neighbor, one of our friends down the street, one of their sons went to school with Somber. Okay. And years ago, he told me about him.

He's like, oh, yeah. You're gonna watch his kid. Who quit LaGuardia high school to move to L.A. Because he wanted to be a singer. Yeah. Yeah. Bob, I do you live with any Swifties? Not really.

No, my kids aren't like, they're not obsessed. I live with one. Yeah, yeah. Rob's the Swiftie. I am a swift. I like her. I appreciate her a lot, actually, yeah. So this song, name that song, Bob Willett.

What song I'm listening to him? Right now in the background? That's something about loving cars or something. That ear in my... Yeah, so romantic. Take this. Du-do-do-do, romantic traffic. Okay, well, there's a new romantic song

I'm just going to play a bit of from the new Taylor Swift album. Oh, this is the one that I... So, okay, so Bob knows where we're going. Yeah, yeah. You posted about this on Instagram, but... Yeah, I did. So my nine-year-old was very excited

about the new Taylor Swift album. So I heard it, like... quite a few times in the living room. And this song is called Actually Romantic. It's actually a disc track. Right, is it Charlie X-X. Charlie X-E-X, right.

Right. So, Bob, you and I had the same reaction to this song. Okay, so I hear the song. I'll let it brew a little bit then. I barely got a hand to you. I forgot I posted about this. Did you?

It's a long time ago down. Yeah. So you hear this, right? Rob? Yeah. It's Pixies. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Stop. I hope she paid them. I don't know. There's no co-writing. I played it for my wife. She didn't hear it. I'm like, what do you read?

Right from the opener in your life time. It's simple. Like, is it called Where's My Mind? This is Where's My Mind. Yeah. Flight Club is soundtrack, right? This is like the song that I think People who didn't know the Pixies

Then this is how they discovered the Pixies Was Through Fight Club Yes I heard it right away Oh yeah So I heard it right away too And then because we do toast once a month I just park it

Until you guys are back in the basement So You've been thinking about it Right Bob Yes sir You were at a remembrance day I was yeah

My child goes to an art school My eldest My 15 year old and they did a, pardon me, they did this really amazing performance. It was like a 45-minute performance a couple times, actually. We got to see one of the performances as a parent.

You could ask to go. You go and sign in and go and you get your little visitor pass and you get to go see it. I really wanted to see her do it because they do a thing where the older students kind of mentor the younger students and they wrote this little piece together based on what you started with for the remembrance day to John McCray in Flanders Field.

and my daughter, so the nines and tens are the actors and the 11s and 12s are the writers and directors. My daughter got a lead in this, and it's all voluntary. She's been getting up and going to school at 7 in the morning and all this stuff. Anyhow, she had a lead, and it was based on not, like, so it's about Flanders Fields, but it was actually from letters from a nurse who actually worked with or like worked on John McCray in, in, in Belgium, or France or wherever it was or France, I think. Anyhow, and so it was all these different. Plus, they had the dance kids there.

They had the orchestra and the history. It was really nice. It was a really, my wife had a really good point. It was great to see these kids take something that's over 100 years old and make it into something that's relatable. Yes. But without talking, it wasn't anything about what's going on in the world today. It was all about remembering then and how they remembered them was beautiful.

I thought it was very proud, obviously, with my daughter. And that's why I moved the time because. I love it. they didn't give us the time until yesterday. I'm glad you could do it. I appreciate it. It was amazing. She was terrific.

She always surprises me. I mean, this kid's getting, my kid, this is my kids getting a 97 in math and a 80-something in science, but also. Bright mother, though. Yeah, she gets all from, yeah, it's very smart. And then she's just going and doing all these extra things. And it's like, this was amazing. It was just so amazing to watch you know.

That's how you get into McGill with that kind of behavior. There you go. You can pay that. If you can use a fork, you can go to York. Ha, ha, ha. That's where my sign is. Were you guys, when you were in high school, did you have Remembrance Day? Like, every day, right?

I mean, every year. Yeah, we did a Remembrance Day. You had, like, a minute of silence in your classroom and all that jazz. And I always, like, I have this, like, a, not PTSD, it's a visceral memory from my whole life of reading that poem. Yeah. And it's that line, because I got to Google it. Because listen to Peter say it, and it flew past me, but since I was a kid, I was, like, haunted by the line, we are the dead. Yeah.

Short days ago, we lived. And when I was a little kid in public school, I was like, what? Oh, on Instagram, Brad Jones was reciting that very poem on the Ridley Funeral Home Instagram account, which I recorded him sitting right there. It's funny, there's a funny comment on the live stream, live.totronomike.com. Hello to all the FOTMs who have joined us for our monthly toast. This is November's toast. Good people there, but the funny thing is, so Jeremy Hopkins is there and he says, I should have asked Peter Gross to record a new toast intro. Yeah, I asked him to do that. I commissioned him to recite in Flanders Fields

for that opening I visualized. And then Mike chimes in to say that it's a flex move. I have to remind you to that we can be replaced. I don't want you to get too comfortable. But hello to Moose Grumpy. Hello, Moose. Hello to Leslie Lonsdeno for you, Bob Willett. Where did you get that hat?

Oh, that hat you're wearing. So it's my second city hat. It's from Second City at the theater. York and Queens County. Yeah, one year. York Street. Yeah, one York Street. And it's, I don't know how off.

They changed the merch quite a bit, but it's just as 1973, which is the year it started here in Toronto. Yeah. And then I'm also, because it's Grey Cup week, yes. I'm wearing my, my vintage, well, it's not vintage. It's a retro rebrand, a remake of a 1991 Toronto Argonauts, Great Cup champion. Okay. I'm going to come back to both the hat and the sweater.

So follow me. Well, both the hat and the sweater are related. I think I know what you're going to talk about. Hold on to that for like a moment here. Can we have our beer yet? Okay. Yeah, what's going on? What here?

Yeah, let me tell you now. So I produce a show for Great Lakes Brewery called Between Two Fermenters. And often Troy Birch sits right where Bob is now and he has people from other craft breweries in the province over. And there's a Hamilton brewery called Fairweather.

Correct. And this lovely woman, whose name is alluding me right now, but she was lovely, gifted me some beer because she was here to be on Between Two Fermenters. Cool. So, of course, we're at Great Lakes.

Of course. Great Lakes mind you sharing this with us? Troy invited her to be on their podcast, so I see that's consent. So they're fair weather. I see that is consent. They're fair weather fans. So tell me what you're opening.

Again, these are not sponsors of Toronto Mike. It's just beer from somebody who is on the Great Lakes podcast. So Fairweather brewing, I think I'm going to open the Pilsner. I like a good Pilsner. This is Donna. It's a Pilsner style lager brewed with elegant European hops and divine patient. It's got a beautiful picture of the Mother Mary. What are the other ones you got in front of?

I have feast beer, which is. is a logger, which is her take on the German Feist beer. Okay. Inspired by Proust. I'd like to take that. Inspired by hedemism and a little else. The one I'm looking at is called Grace. It says pale ale with tea.

I'm curious about this, though. And I have a sour here as well, a dream pop, double guava sour. I'm not a sour person, but I hear it. Well, I can also get more in the fridge. This looks great. So you can sample it if you don't like it. No, no. I'll go get you a lager from a feast beer.

Yeah, what are you going to have? Oh, you know, I haven't thought that. Here, do you want the grace? Do you want the guava? Or do you want the... Okay, I'll pop open a... The sour? You seem like a sour guy.

I'm sour at times. Okay, liquid light show. Okay. So, three, two, one. There we go. So thank you to... I feel like it's been a while. We did two really fast.

Cheers, boys. Nice to see it. Cheers. Oh, it's like fruity. Oh, yeah. Uh, sour's fruity, yeah. Okay. Dream pop, it's called.

I feel like that's a genre of music. Okay. So, why am I playing the toast theme? Who wants to guess? Because it's... Oh, I don't. tie back to Bob's sweater and his... Well, because our theme this month is food.

Yeah, we're kicking out food jam. This song got Hansen. Well, I feel like we intentionally handsend it because it's two on the nose, okay? So this song's called Toast. It's a food jam. And this is not a mind blow to anybody because all listeners of Toast know this. But whose voice are we hearing right now? Paul Young.

Right. Okay. So this is a long way to get to what Bob's wearing, okay? But we're going to get there. Wait out. How do you get to Paul Young? Okay, every time you go away. Bear with me here.

Written by Darrell Hall. 1985 Well so Second City And who owned the team at this time Martin Short John Candy John Cady Martin Short, shut up

I don't know He likes sports maybe I don't know Okay So I can tell you This song seemed to be everywhere Like This song was everywhere

Of course In 1985 40 years ago So this is the Again somebody's learning it For the first time Although we do references Fun fact

But the voice we're hearing Now is the same voice We hear On Toast. Oh. Oh, there you go. Yeah, Paul Young is singing this song. And Paul Young was singing for street band.

Yeah. The song Toast. Oh. So how does this tie to Bob Laette's hat in his sweater? Well, what's Paul Young's relationship to John Candy? If we can solve any problem. A cover version of the song. Is it from a film?

At the beginning of this, I thought this was Time by Culture Club. It sounds like, give me time. Give me time. Give it a song time Okay Is it Sia? No You can name that

When you get the singer, it'll be fun Oh, it's It's, uh It's uh It's on the tip of his tongue Yeah Scythia Arivo Correct

So Cynthia Arivo Okay Am I saying that right? I see her creepy nails Every time I think of her I hate those long nails. I don't get it. Okay, so here's the connection.

I saw the documentary called, I like me. Have you guys seen it? It's terrific. Loved it. So at the end, the big scene where spoiler alert, John Candy passes away, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home,

this cover is playing. I forgot. Yeah. This cover is from the documentary. That's quite the journey. I like that, though. It's good job. And tell us how the documentary

I like me. me is tied to your hat and your Well, of course, I'm wearing a Second City hat, which of course, which of course John Candy was part of the very first Did you do this on purpose? No, no, no, I just happened to... Are you new to Toronto, Mike? No. No, but I love that. And then, um,

and I wore this because it's a great cup week. And then in 1991, well, the year before, um, John Candy, Bruce McDonnell and Wayne Gretke, bought the Toronto Argonauts. And he was, he played, uh, football. He in high school with Neil McNeil. And my, well, my father-in-law and my, my father-in-law and my,

my, I guess my great uncle-in-laws, or uncle-in-laws, so like Laura's uncles, went to school with John. And they all went to Neil McNeil, and Laura's uncle Willie, it was a friend of John's and has some great stories about him. That's so cool. And so anyways, he loved football, loved football. And he apparently, according to the documentary, he couldn't have been more involved and happy to own the team. And that was the one time I got to meet John Candy, actually. You didn't meet him. I do. I have his autograph. This is before It was 1991.

The Labor Day Classic Toronto Argonauts against the Hamilton Tiger Cats in Hamilton. The game was sold out so they put extra seats in the end zones. But they were literally

like high school risers and I was sitting there and John Candy comes out and I was always there early because I was a big nerd and I walked up to him I was 92 because that's right they had already won the Grey Cup

and they were having a bad year. John was on the sideline and I walked up to him And I said, I mean, I think I've told the story on here before, but I had my little, I have, I still have my little notebook with the autographs. And I said to him, I said, Mr. Candy. I said, do you mind signing? And he's like, yeah, sure, no problem. And again, I'm, I'm, I'm a, I'm a 16 years old, 15 or 15 or 16 years old. And he grabs, he grabs it and he signs it. I said, what about a, what about all these rumors that you're leaving us? He's like, us who? I was like, you know, the team, the fans. He's like, stop reading the Toronto Sun, kid. Wow. Yeah. And he wrote it. That's amazing.

Yeah. That's my one time I met John Candy. So did you see this documentary, Rob? I did. I loved it. Yes. It's terrific. Really, really good.

He grew up blocks from where I live. Wow. In East York. Wow. He's just north. I'm just south of the damn fourth. He's just north. Who else was in your autograph book?

Oh, mostly Argonauts. In fact, all Argonauts and Adam Rita, the coach and Rocket Ishmael. I had a little autograph book when I was like eight from eight. So you know who I had in my book? I had Billy Van. Oh, wow. Wow. That's cool.

I met him at the Burlington Library. I had Bob McGrath from Sesame Street. Wow. I know. I had Bill Lawrence because I was on tiny talent signs. Of course. And then I forged a signature of Liberacee. That's not cool.

Wow. That's some, that's, thank you. Did you try to tell kids that are like, I met Liberace? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rob, do you know why I'm playing this jam? Because the keyboard player passed away.

Any thoughts on the passing of Dave Ball? Yeah. Uh, I wasn't. huge Tainted Love, I mean, huge soft-self fan, but I loved this song. Of course, this was like a life-changing song for many of us in 1881. And I did pull the 12-inch

because you need that Supremes. Yeah. When I went to Germany with my family in the Christmas of 81, I bought this 12-inch over there, like, instead of buying an import in Toronto, I was like, I'm in Germany, I'm going to buy this thing. And really, I didn't get into their actual albums as much, but this song, it's all you need. They were

here this summer for the first time in years. And he was with them. He was still with them, so I don't know what happened. The one complaint I heard from everybody, They had no merch. Oh, really? They had no more. People were like, oh, I want soft-sill merch.

And there was none. And they were with a bunch of other bands, too. I think it was modern. Or I can't remember who it was. I don't remember who was. It was a big title. But they were famously not very good live, too. Like, Mark Almond is, like, he sings not sort of out of tune, even on the records.

Yeah. And that's the best they could get. Right. On the record. You're like, we're committing this. Well, for most of us, Normies, this is the only soft cell. Yeah. I only know the long version where they do, baby, did our love goal.

Oh, do you have it. Yeah. Because you get this. When you're DJing, it's great because it's nine minutes. You go to the washroom. I used to play this. At certain points, you see the people at a wedding and they were like, what the fuck? This is too much.

This is too long. No, this is so good. Man, when you're a kid listening to this record. Honestly, it's even now, I love it. This is a great version. You're right. It is kind of a mind fuck for a kid. Yeah.

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That's cool. Unlike you, Rob Bruce. I will not be either. I'm sorry. We have a shared calendar. wonder. It's my, it's, yeah, yeah. My wife and I, so it's the Italian side of her family Christmas party. I'm supposed to be on the air from one to six. Plus, it's the, uh, um, uh, the local radio lab Christmas party that night. It's nuts. So wait, this is for us? Yes. Okay. So what you're

getting from Ty the Christmas guy is a moose mug. That's awesome. That's a moose mug from Christmas vacation. It turns any holiday event into a fun and festive recreation of National and Pooh's Christmas vacation with the official club. The truth guy loved it, man. He was quoting, what is it, the brother-in-law's name? Oh, yeah. No, no, no, wrong one. No, no, there's like shitters full. Oh, yeah, that's a Christmas story.

Yeah, they're all the same. I actually have a tip that, and I don't want to spoil it, but the gift you will receive at TMLX 21. Because this was the gift last year, too. That's true. Yeah. This year, you're getting a gift from a Christmas story. Really?

Oh, see, now. I wish I could. I was not from Christmas vacation. I toured the Christmas story house a couple years ago in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah. And I bought some decorations, including Ralphie and the pink bunny suit. But this one, yeah, so the boys, the McDonald's, boys loved. Yeah, particularly John Angus was madly in love with his moose mugs.

I love those guys so much. John Angus and Colin. They're just the nicest guys where they're from Cape Breton, right? They're from, yeah, Antigonish. Antigonish, yes, right. I played there before. I've been there. My buddy was the program director, my buddy Curtis, who's at now the morning show

on what it's Curtis Bray He's Yeah, Curtis Bray I know this name Yeah yeah

He was a humble And Fred intern He I taught him Actually he was Is Antigonish Where Francis X University is No

No I don't I don't know Is that There's a school Yeah Yeah They're good at football Yeah

Yeah yeah They call it State Effects Yeah But I remember When I was with Honeymoon suite I think

We played out there And I gave a talk To like these kids This university class like About music Keyboard programming Or something

They tell a great There's a Near Monctin They have a Magnetic Hill And they have this Big ball concert there, and Bruce Springsteen was playing. That's right.

And opening for Bruce was Tom Cochran and the Trues. Wow. Amazing. And they were talking about their Bruce experience here. I need to listen to the Trues. Honestly, they're really good. Yeah, I know the names. But those two guys, those brothers, the McDonald Brothers, sweetheart.

Absolutely sweetheart. They really are. I got to know them one time. They were playing the national, they were doing the national anthem and Highway of Heroes at a TFC game. Oh, wow. Okay, they just did that. Yeah.

For the Hamilton Thai Cats. Yeah, that's right. Wow. So they did it for the, for TFC. in 19, or 19, in 2016, I think it was. And Mike Rice, a guy who I, from the industry, RPM. I met him outside the Phoenix. We, we did that since the last episode.

That's right. We went and saw a show together. And anyways, long story short, it's called Big Rec. I end up, yeah, I end up getting tickets through Mike to go see the, because I wanted to go, it was a playoff game. He goes like, oh, here, I'm in their private booth. Like, I'm the only media guy there. And they're doing, so they did the, they do the, they do the performance.

before and the National Anthem and then they're doing something at halftime too. Wow. So I go up and I'm up there with their wives and their kids. That's so cool. I'm the only one and they're like, hey, who are you? I'm like Mike gave me the tickets and blah, blah, blah. And I sat with this is where the first time I heard about the issues inside the

tragically hip because John Angus was working with them. Yes. And I had heard stuff Okay, John Angus, right. They were Morris Sinclair produced the fourth Truesville. That's right. You guys, this is really inside baseball. Oh, no. Well, you know what, that's where we live, brother.

I know that. Get in the boss. And both of the brothers were some of the first guests I ever had on Bob's bass. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Separately. I had Colin on once and I had John Angus on.

And talking about, oh, sorry. Oh, you mentioned Highway of Heroes. And that's, today, it's a big game. It gets spun everywhere. John Angus McDonald and his brother, Colin, are singing that song for some primary school students where John Angus's child goes. Yeah. Like today. Oh, they did that.

Today, they're going to the school to the whole class has rehearsed. This sounds like it's a Pusium thing. Has rehearsed highway. We played it yesterday. Yeah, they played that up for the year. It makes you make me want to listen to them. Just like when I listen to finger out.

Why wouldn't you listen to the truth? I just know that there's too much music in the world. And when I hear somebody, when I hear a new name. How much of that music is right up our alley? But there's not enough time. Hamilton guy. Oh, it's hard. But I try to find time for everybody.

So that's why I love to making the drive up here because I have a little extra time to like listen to it. A little. got a lot of time, yeah. I want to listen to a little more Finger 11, but it won't take long because I'll turn it off right away. Yeah, it's only an hour, though.

I know. I did share a stage with them, though, you know. When? Finger 11? Uh-huh. And Silverstein. Oh, it was early on July. Yeah, I remember that. I know.

They don't remember that. Yeah. Well, we remember you tell us about that, for sure. Hey, did you, when you first heard about Tainted Love by Soft Cell, did you know it was a cover? No. No. No.

Not till way later. Here's the original. Love it. Take not give and that's not needed. Okay. Let's finish the thank you. Let's thank Nick Aienes. He's got two great podcasts you should listen to,

building Toronto's skyline and building success. We're recording new episodes Friday morning. Much love to Nick Aienes. Hopefully he's at TMLX21. Recyclemyelectronics.c.c.a. That's where you go up. You have old electronics, old devices, old cables. You don't throw that out.

You go to Recyclemyelectronics. C.A. And who's this performer? Gloria Jones. Jones, that's right. Oh, come on now. And then we're going to get the food jams, everybody. We're getting the food jams.

Well, I guess it would be nice. Well, they're in the stores now, but they won't be long. Just a jillies, then they'll be gone. Canberry, Easter cream, A. What are we listening to, Rob Pruse? The law recently departed Ace Freely Oh yeah

What are your thoughts You're a big kisshead I was sad and shocked I mean How old was he? He was 71 He was so young man Yeah

I mean not really But 71 It's still young I think if you make it I think if you make it With an 8 year old Then that's fair But I think it was before that

I think that's too soon He was still working He was still making music He had lots of tour stuff booked And I guess Apparently he had a fall And in his studio And they thought it was

going to be maybe he was going to be okay but apparently it was worse than they sort of let on that he had a brain bleed yeah okay so Bob and I weren't around but this was a hit

oh yeah it's funny because I never hear it in the while no but but for people of a certain age this is like a big hit and this is the only hit

by a member of Kiss solo yeah so they released four solo albums in 78 each one did their own oh like like kind of coordinated yeah coordinated oh yeah they released all four ones I mean, they were, they had just released Kiss Alive 2, and they were like at the peak. This was, I mean, 78 was a pretty big time.

Like the Wu-Tang Clan. Yes, exactly. Just like them. Or Stu Stone's mom had called them the Wu-Tang Gang. And Tang is a good drink as well. But they released these-on-the-moon. Yeah, they released these four albums. And this song, Aces solo album, to me, was like the best.

I had Aces and I had jeans because they were my two favorite guys in the band anyways. But this song started the album, and it was like, no matter where it goes from there. To prove to it. Yeah, and it's a cover song. I mean, it was not written by him, yeah. I did not know that. But nobody knew that back in those days either, so. Gentlemen, are you okay if I go first?

Yep. Wow, okay. Who do you got lined up to talk? I do have, well, possibly somebody's here to line up. Okay, so here's always it. Yeah. Again, we're going to. This is his thing now.

I know. I didn't do it last. Yeah. No, but you've done it a couple times. I do it occasionally. If I could get a great, a great, like, snow. Sure. You know, I'll bring them on.

Or, uh, I've now heard the Alexis on fire cover of misogyny. How is it? It sounds like Alexis on fire covering misogynes. Makes sense. But Scott McCullough from Rusty has heard a couple of episodes talking about Rusty now because Jim Moore and the guy from Bootsauce. Yep. There was lost.

And he says he wants to come in and correct the public record with regards to Rusty. So he's going to come back soon. Oh, cool. Just to make sure we get our facts straight since he was there. Okay. So gentlemen, I'm going first. Okay. There may or may not be a special guest, but we are kicking out food jam. There's a special guest.

There might be. I don't know. But we're kicking out food jams. Is it the galloping gourmet? Graham Kirk. First of all, do you know the song? Sounds like Jimmy Hendon. I don't recognize it yet.

So no. I should have quit you. Oh, it's Led Zepplings. I'm surprised Cruz is a more of a No, I just I only listen to Led Zeppelin 4 Because it has steroid to heaven That's the only one I ever owned

Yeah, me too Houses of the Holy for me Oh yeah Because uh Jermaker or DyerMaker Love that song I like them much more in hindsight, but now as a kid, I'm getting them a little bit more more. I was actually giving away Jason Bonham tickets on Indy the other day.

And he's Jason Bonham and he led Zeppelin evening. Oh, that's cool. So I want to get to our special guest. This song is a food jam because it's called The Lemon Song. And your special guest is Robert Plant? And a lemon is food? It's in the food. Yeah, lemon is a food?

Yeah. Did they say lemon? Or is this one of those jammed? where they don't say the name. Well, this is, okay, so I'm glad, I'm glad you asked. What a great question that is. Okay, so.

I'm a professional. This is the Lemon song by Led Zeppelin. What album? It's from Led Zeppelin 2. So that's a 1969 album. Very cool. I'm going to play a song. That's like the basis for this song,

and that's going to be where my guest comes in, okay? So bear with the lady. So they stole it like they do most of their. rips. They stole it like they do all their stuff. Okay, so let's bring in another artist. Because I'll give a little context. Yeah. My guest today kicked out the jams on Toronto mic and kicked out this artist.

Oh. And the way he spoke of this artist, I realized I have so much to learn from this person regarding this artist. We are also ignorant. It sounds great, but I... Well, you're not alone. We're going to rectify that.

I should have but you put it, baby. It's like a blues artist. Does anyone want to go to the live stream and see if anybody knows who this is? They haven't yet. I've got the Lemon song there. It's a little boat didlish. Yeah. Yeah, nobody said anything yet.

Oh, okay. So I'll bring it down, and I'm not, you notice I'm not using my pod, because my guest will come in on the same here, channel here. And that's mystery guest, will you please. Announce your arrival. I'm here. I'm here. Who are you?

Well, I'm not Chester Burnett. Hold on, I got to take notes. Who that second artist was. Chester Burnett. All right, please, I will just announce to the listenership. This is Howl and Wolf. There you go. Howl and Wolf it is.

And on the line, I do want to hear the fun. facts like his real name. But I just want to introduce you to make sure the listenership knows this is the great FOTM we call David Schultz. Oh. Hello, David Schultz. Hello, all. Mr. David Schultz.

Good to be here. Journalist writer, right? Like, yeah, yeah. Globe and Mail forever. Yes. They announced there were going to be packages. Yeah, he jumped up and down and... Yeah, you'll take it and run, right? Yeah, and as you can see behind me, I've retired from housekeeping, too. Actually, no one can see you,

me, David, so be as messy as you want to be. But please, take over... I'll just keep the camera above my waist. Oh, please, although I don't care. You can be yourself. Please, educate us. David Schultz got a John Hodgman vibe in the, when you Google them. Do you think you look like John Hodgman?

Oh, yeah. Do you know who John Hodgman is there, Dave? No, I don't. I checked out at pop culture about 1982. So all that stuff you guys were talking about music lately. well that actually was eight years ago yeah you need to get a picture of this was just yeah you know

this was just uh I just googled your name and that's what we got I'll show you John Hodgman but tell us about this song take it away we'll listen I feel like we need to be educated in Howl and Wolf and you're the man to educate us well Howlin Wolf was one of the great characters not just in blues but in music

I mean he was just an amazing guy okay oh yeah I've never had a goatee like that. No, but it was just the mustache. There was a time my mustache was sort of that color. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So please go ahead.

So tell us more, yeah. Okay, I had the, well, just, I had the privilege of seeing Howling Wolf about, I'm going to say, a year and a half to two years before he died. Wow. I was in my second year at the University of Waterloo. And this was 1974. in September or October. And good Lord, that's 51 years.

Howland Wolf died eight days before my birthday. Wow. My God. Anyway, me and another buddy were going to Western, University of Western Ontario and London to visit a friend. And we got there. He said, tomorrow night we're going to Fry Fogles, which at the time was a very well-known bar.

Oh, yeah. Oh, I played Fragullgles. London. Yep. And they would get all kinds of really great talent. If you Google them, you'll see Downchild Blues Band for a Canadian talent. I think even Johnny Winter played there. But the guy who ran it was no dummy.

And he knew that all the great Chicago blues artists would travel by car from Chicago to Detroit, play some clubs in Detroit, and then they would drive to Toronto. because Toronto is always a good spot for blues musicians. So this guy would contact them and say, hey, London's halfway between Detroit and Toronto. Why don't you stop here and play here for a couple nights? You'll make a few more bucks and then off you go to London. And they said, yeah, sure.

So like Muddy Waters would play there. Wow, yeah. That's amazing. Yep. I know London and Kitchener both had scenes like that. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

And of course, Muddy Waters and Howland Wolf were the two sort of towering figures in Chicago blues, starting in the early 50s. They were always painted as bitter rivals, and in a certain sense they were. I remember I was reading Willie Dixon, who was a blues session player, but he was also sort of the head talent guy or producer for chess records. Wow. But he composed a lot of those songs that Howland Wolf and Buddy and Muddy Waters made into hits. I don't think he had a hand. He did produce Killing Floor,

but I think that was written by Howland Wolf. Anyway, Willie Dixon would often say, I couldn't get Howlin Wolf to play a song if he thought I wrote it. He would always say, that song's not as good as the one you wrote last week for Muddy. Funny.

So Willie says, I soon figured out I would go to Howl and Wolf and say, I wrote this song for Muddy, but I'll offer it to you first and he'd say then he would never turn me down and they record it together for a long, long time. But yeah, so in September

74 we went to fry fowgels and saw Howland Wolf and my God, to this day, it is still the best live music experience I've ever had in my entire life. That's cool. I actually had any other acts.

And boy, he was electric this guy. Even though at that time he had severe health problems he uh he ended up dying about a year and a half later at the age of 65 from sort of a combination of kidney disease uh heart problems a bunch of other things and uh but and he his health was such that he had to sit in a chair while he played but that voice i mean he was aptly named howlin wolf even though as another side he was given that name nickname when as a kid by his grandfather for the way he treated the family's chickens. That's so funny.

Grandfather said something about you're as bad as a wolf. I forget how it went. So did Led Zeppelin? Did he get any royalties from Led Zeppelin for that tune, Lemon? They actually got sued. Yeah. Get sued? Okay.

Well, it took lawyers because as you had noted earlier, Led Zeppelin was, you know, quote, unquote, notorious for borrowing a lot of their material. Inspired by. Right. this yeah well this he didn't get any credit originally i don't believe as a co-author it was just a straight sort of rip off which you know they were pretty well known for and in fact i think stairway to heaven had lawyers involved yeah oh for sure the band spirit yeah my head and it was to do

with the instrument of the the guitar riff wasn't i forget but anyway yeah so they yeah they swip the tune and and put out their version of it now i will say this not to defend Led Zeppelin. I think their conduct was pretty appalling through just about everything they did, even though I was a big fan. You know, I was a big fan. And we all loved the lemon song when it came out because, like, I was 14 years old and we're all snickering. Oh, the juice ran down my leg. Ha ha ha, ha, and as you would when you were 14 years old. But, yeah, the killing floor, which was Holland Wolfe's hit, was actually one of his later recordings. It didn't get recorded until 1964.

But you should remember, though, that for a lot of the blues guys, they never got into recording until later in their lives. I think Powell's first record came out in 1951 when he was 41, 42 years old. And that was like, at that time, they would just put out singles. And his first album didn't come along until about 10 years later, I think, which was basically a compilation of all this singles that he had previously released. But the killing floor itself,

it should be pointed out, I get back to this point of, you know, eventually. He borrowed a lot as well from songs, you know, and that's what blues guys did. Sure. Like he started performing professionally probably in the early 30s when he was around 20 years old. And he was fortunate,

he had a very miserable childhood. But as a teenager, he was fortunate enough to meet Charlie Patton because he was down in the Mississippi Delta. That's where he was born and raised. And Charlie Patton took a liking to him and taught him how to play the guitar and sort of taught him how to be a blues guy. Charlie Patton taught Howling Wolf. Performing in clubs then. Wow. And now you think of a guy like Mick Jagger and everybody talks about how all the wild stuff he does on stage.

while you talk about borrowing, a lot of that came from Howlin Wolfe because Howlin Wolfe was one of the, he would, unfortunately I never got to see it because he was in a chair, but he would run up and down the stage, run into the crowd with his guitar, he'd play his guitar over his head,

he'd do all kinds of stuff like this, and he learned a lot of that from Charlie Patton, who was doing it in the 1930s. And yeah, and then so, Mick Jagger picked up on it just like Elvis Presley picked up all of his onstage antics from a black singer and I'm having a senior moment his name's got run gone right out of my head

who was always considered the greatest influence of Is this name shy or uh oh I don't know it was um oh you can I went back and uh and listened to a bunch of his recordings He said, man, he was something. But he was never commercially as successful as Elvis because he wasn't white. But anyway, yeah, so that's, I mean, that's what they did. You know, the blues performers, if they saw something they like, well, they'd borrow it and use it themselves. Mr. Schultz, I'm going to play a little something.

I'm glad you brought this up. If you didn't bring it up, I was going to bring it up. So that song by Howlin Wolf is called Killing Floor, and that's what Zeppelin based the Lemon song on. I will say this. If you look it up, they borrowed some other stuff, notably from Robert Johnson. Yeah, big time Robert Johnson. And who Holland Wolf knocked around a bit with in the day and played clubs. He played with just about everybody.

Holland Wolf did. So let's listen, though. Put all this together and make a lot of money off it. Hey, let me play a little bit of a gentleman named Skip James, okay? This song is called Hard Time Killin' Floor. So just a bit of this. Well, this song was on the soundtrack for Brother Arthur, too. Yep.

The Arthur Big Boy Crutup, is that. Boy, you know of his name. Big Boy, Crutton, was a very popular rhythm in blues. Yeah. But we're talking about the stage influence you were talking about, trying to figure him. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, well, he was a piano player.

Oh, okay. This is beautiful. Crazy stuff. So this... Same thing. Jerry Lee Lewis didn't invent all that stuff he did all by himself either. So Skip James, Skip James records this song we're listening to now in 1931, and this is probably the...

one of the bigger inspirations for Howlin Wolf. And then, of course, Howlin Wolf inspires Led Zeppelin and a bunch of 14-year-olds are listening to Led Zeppelin 2, getting high and enjoying the Lemon song. Cool. Well, it was year two before I was getting to high regular.

So, David, I love that you did this, but I got to ask the big question. Last time we had a TMLX event at Palma's Kitchen, you were there, okay? Yes. Yes, I was. Can I get you to return to pop on the mic and say hello and to get a free meal from Palma and a free beer from Great Lakes

and a gift from Retro Festive? Can you return for TMLX21 on November 29th at noon? You know what? I saw you post this a while ago, and I thought, Mike is probably going to send me an invitation. He's more than sending now. He's calling you Ode on the time. Live on the air.

Yeah. Well, unfortunately, Mike, I am making a comedy comeback that night. I'm sorry? Wait a minute. That evening, so you could come warm up with us at noon. Well, oh, that's a long time to be away from home. And I need to, the problem is I am also doing a little chauffering that night, picking up a couple of my fellow comics who are far more accomplished than I in Toronto.

Seriously? He's doing stand-up? Bringing them out here to Bolton. So Bob doesn't realize... I'm sorry to say I can't make it. Bob doesn't realize that you've been dabbling in stand-up because he didn't attend that TMLX event where you and Gear Joyce did stand-up. I didn't know you did stand-up, Mr. Schultz. That's amazing.

Well, I used to. Now, I haven't been on stage in about three years. Okay. This is going to be interesting, but a guy, a friend of mine, on behalf of his wife who is organizing a fundraiser for a charity for animals they're having a fundraising banquet

and they asked me to appear and I said well I'm so rusty I'd be stealing your money but I said I can I know a couple of people Oh that's great So in the end

I'm going to bring these two comics Desiree Walsh and Kelly Zemnikas if you Google them you'll find out they're both very accomplished professional comedians. And I'm going to introduce them and be the MC. That'll kind of be my comedy comeback. I've got to get off my butt now and get out on stage and get the rust off.

Good luck. But it just occurred to me who Elvis's big influence was, Wynoni Harris. Wynonna Judd? No, yeah, yeah, Wynoni Harris. Right. I think that was it. let me just i'm going to google that i know i got the first name right yeah winoni harris uh an american there is a blues shouter a blues shouter they call him well yeah well yeah

they called the anyone who's saying the blues in a very loud and enthusiastic fashion was the blues shouter i always thought that was a bit pejorative but uh yeah and if you listen to his old recordings that guy was really something But so was Howland Wolf. And he would pack the clubs once he learned how to play and perform from Charlie Patton, who was considered along with Robert Johnson, you know, one of the fathers of the blues. He had great following across the South, Mississippi, where he grew up later on in Arkansas. And then he wound up in Memphis.

and he also wound up with his own show on a radio station there as a DJ and so he was doing that and doing the clubs and then he became part of the great migration north to Chicago where the acoustic blues from the Mississippi Delta sort of morphed into the electric Chicago you know your stuff Dave

you're two of the leading proponents of that but the interesting thing about Howlin Wolfe was that unlike a lot of those guys probably including Muddy Waters, who got to Chicago by riding a freight train because they had no money and no job. Howland Wolfe was making good money in Memphis as a performer and a DJ. And the reason he went to Chicago was there was a bit of a dispute over his recording contract in Memphis. He was actually discovered by Ike Turner, who was actually quite some years younger than him but ike turner gotten hired by sam phillips you remember sam phillips of sun records fame

million dollar quartet and the million dollar quartet he's the guy who first recorded elvis and then sold his contract to i forget which big company but he had all those guys uh roy orbison uh jerry lee lewis elvis carl perkins but this was in uh around 1950 before he had formed sun records so what he would do was record these guys that he liked and then license them to other record companies. And the two main companies he would license who were chess records in Chicago. And then there was a competitor called, oh gosh, something like RJM or RVM. And they would compete all the time for artists. And so Howland Wolf at various spots, Sam Phillips recorded me, chess records, would do one record and then the other guys get mad so they'd do another and then they got

into this hole and it was headed for the court and so they came to a settlement where chess records got uh howlin wolf's contract and uh the other company and i think i have it right here it was r pm was the name of it they got a guy named roscope gordon who was a sort of well-known singer at the time so you know i'll leave it to you to get who got the better of the deal well the guys the chess brothers uh they were no dummies and there's howlin wolf down in memphis so they got a hold of and said look you got to come to chicago and because they wanted them there where they could uh right keep an eye on them and have more control so he agreed because they made him a good offer so unlike a lot of these guys who have to hitchhike or ride a freight train howlin wolf hopped

into his big, I might have been a Cadillac, it was a big car, and he said he had $4,000 in his pocket from, because he was making a good living, which was a, that was a hell of a lot of money in 1950. It's a lot today. And off he went to Chicago, and then him and Muddy Waters basically led the way of the whole transformation of the blues into the Chicago side. So, David, you need to come back and do just an episode about the blues, okay? Seriously.

Would you do that? Well, I know you, yeah, you, we had talked about. that, and I had told you, sure, any time. Well, maybe the time is sooner. How soon is now, as the Smiths would say? Well, I got a lot going on because of this comfy revival thing. So, yeah, maybe next month. Because I'm going to pass the baton now because Rob Proust is going to kick out a food jam.

So you have two options, David Schultz. One is you can disappear into that good night. Or you can stick around and listen. I don't care. It's up to you. So I'm going to let Rob kick out his food jam, but you can hang out. or you can disappear. Well, unfortunately, Mike,

I don't know what it is. You just got me at a very busy time. It's a very busy man. And I'm committed to something in about 15 minutes. I've got to go. Well, here, peace out to FOTM, David Schultz. You'll return. Thank you, David.

Thanks for doing this, buddy. You're welcome, guys. It was fun. There you go. So I always say, you know, you can have toast or you can have avocado on toast. And that's like your... If you keep the toast in too long,

you burns. Because it's good for you. That's some nourishment. I am interested to know that Howell, I did not know that the lemon song came from Howland Wool. So, well, like we all alluded to, a lot of Led Zeppelin songs can be traced to other influences here. But I'm going first. I just went. Did you go?

That was me. Was that your first song? The lemon song. Are you sure about that? I passed the baton to Rob Proust of honeymoon sweet fame. Any words before I kick out your first food jam. No, just kick it. Yeah, sure just kick it.

One, two, three, four. It sounds like the exorcist. I was going to say, it sounds like a horror film. Halloween, I thought. Right, Halloween. Sweet strawberry, marshmallow butter, sky. It's got a bit of a Simon Garfunkel feel. Holy Bear, Cashew, Dixieland, Fossil,

Fat chocolate Hungry Lime tuti fruity Special Raspberry Leave it to me A lot of food references Free gray scotch Lassie cherry smash

Lemon free Another lemon reference That's true I want to go to Mars Where green rivers Flow And your sweet 16 is waiting for you after the show

I want to go to Mars You'll meet the gold dust twins tonight You'll get your harsh desire I will meet you under the lights Let one more verse go by Listen to some more words You're the boss, Bruce Play a few more words

I can't say no to you. They spelled Mars wrong. There's a reason. Golden champagne, juicy, grapefruit, lucky Monday. Sound like holding lyrics. Laura Mipson. Hot fudge, buffalo, tulipson. Scrambled eggs.

Almond caramel, caramel, frat, a pineapple root beef. Reading a menu Black and white big apple, Henry Ford, Sweet Heart and Maple Teer So this is a singer named John Grant And this was a song that I heard live for the first time There was a band I loved in like 2010 called Midlake

Do you know Midlake? They're from Texas And I had heard them somewhere And I loved their album They came to play in New York this guy John Grant was the opening act okay and I went with Leia actually so we weren't even we weren't even dating or anything at that point but I had bought a ticket to the show

and she's like I'm gonna come to the show too she was like trying to she was sort of following me around you weren't dating yet no but we were both in Mama Mia at the time so well she wanted to date you she was married she was married oh wait stop the music stop the rock and roll yeah

she clearly liked what she saw in her colleague well we were friends forever before she was even married as well just friends just friends you tell me Yeah, yeah, always just right. You can tell me. But so anyway, so she... Just say it into the microphone.

Yeah. No, so we were at the show and we were watching this guy, John Grant, doing this song. Right. And we were getting a little bored and we were like, what the fuck is this song? He's just rhyming off these words. And it wasn't until I got the CD and many years later realized he's, it's an ice cream list. It's literally a menu for ice cream. Yeah.

So here's what he had to say about it. He said Mars. So the song is called Mars, M-A-R-Z, right? He said for saying Z. Yeah, thank you. I know. haven't been Americanized completely. Not completely.

He says, Mars was a sweet shop for my childhood. It's now empty and for sale, but I got to visit beforehand. The woman who served me as a child was still there. They made all their own candies

and ice cream. In the song, I list all the names of the Sundays. The song is about the gateway back to childhood and innocence before things have become complicated. The owner's name was Marzetti, which was shortened to Mars with a Z.

The main theme of the song is a melancholic longing to return to one's favorite childhood memories. So I had a new appreciation for the song. Yeah. Because it's a stupid list song. Otherwise you're like,

but I got more questions. Okay, so you go to see this artist, this musician, yeah, with your colleague. Yes. Leia.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Were you holding hands with Leah? No, not at all. There was no good. Colleagues don't hold hands. No,

not even on the cheek. No, because I lived, I lived in Manhattan. She lived in Queens. So, where was the show? It was at the Bowery ballroom, I think, or.

That's a big venue. Oh, yeah. The Ramones? Yeah. Don't the Ramones play there? That was a CBGB. Bowery is where Eddie played last time solo with the Earthlings. Yeah. Midlake was a big band.

I mean, big in the college sort of circle at that time. So the thing was that they produced this album for John. So this was his first album that came out. They recorded it in like 2008, 2009. Do you guys consider that your first date? No. Definitely not. No, they're friends.

No. You're really focusing in on this. When you do get divorced. Is this wife number four or five? Wow. When you do. No, not with Leia, with the previous woman. Oh, yeah.

He's saying when you, but he's already single. He's single. How much time he lapses from separation to, let's go on a real date, Leah? Oh, you mean at that time? Yeah. Oh. After you get divorced, the last time you're divorced, how much time he lapses between separation and Leah, let's go for on a date?

You mean for me or for her? He's already, I've already been divorced for years. He's already divorced there when they're going. Oh, I thought you were. No, no, no. I thought you were, she's married. Oh, no. She's married.

Okay, from her, I'm sorry. Pay attention, man. I'm paying attention. So, I'm sorry. I'm still. thinking of Howl and Wolf over here, okay? When Leia gets separated from her husband, how much time elapses approximately between separation and Rob,

would you like to go out on a date with me? Probably months. It wasn't a long time. Did you say minutes? Months. You're like a, why are you trying to dig, man? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But definitely, but this is like, this is sort of what our life was.

We always did shit together. That's what I do, man. You're friends, yeah. That's true. Yeah, I went to show us with her husband and her as well. Like, so we did a lot of things together. Months, that's, that's enough time. Yeah, that's fair.

Do you, do you, since you're friends with her ex, do you have a courtesy call where you just let him know, I'm going to ask your ex out? Is that cool? Like, not that you need his blessing, but you don't have that moment. No. He can figure it out on his own. Yeah, yeah. He heard the news.

It depends. Like, if Bob gets divorced and I get divorced and then I. Then I end up with Monica? I was thinking, like, no, he's going to go the other way, of course. Yeah, wait a minute. Of course. Not that she'd ever go. out with me, of course. She's a very cultured woman, okay?

But I think I would definitely have a quick call with my buddy Bob and just say, hey, Bob, I'm sorry it didn't work out for you. And I was going to ask. But that's different, though, because you and I were friends first. Yeah, no, I wasn't, you weren't friends with him. He was, it was, you were friends with her first. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Asking on behalf of a certain client of mine who was produced by Bob Wollett. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, oh, I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Okay. Say something before your first food jam, Bob Wollett. It's the first song that came to mind. The first is always best.

This is the first one that came to mind. That's good. My first was my first, too. Good. A friend brought the flowers. She said they were lilac like, she'd never be like with plants. The next presentation,

the new dictionary breach, she'd circle the word romance. So enthusiastic, a little bit drastic, I shaved her name in my, And as she beheld it, she said, I misspelled it, need more be said. These apples are delicious. As a matter of fact, they are, she said, can't all this food be free?

These apples. It's from Bear Naked Lady's second album. Maybe you should drive. It's an Ed song, 100% Ed. I, uh, when I, when I, when I, when you said food jams, this is the first thing that came in the head. It's called these apples. It's clearly about breaking up with a girl, or wanting a girl and not being able to get her. And, you know, there's a line where he says, um, uh, so enthusiastic, a little bit drastic. I shaved her name in my head, but as, but, uh, I misspelled it,

you know, right? Um, as, he's talking, yeah, and I don't know even know why these apples, she said. Maybe it's something, I actually don't even know the context of the line. It's how you like them apples. How do you like these apples? I guess, yeah. You guys are both starting out with fruit. Yeah. I got ice cream. You guys are going with lemons and apples.

Yeah. But you ate a lot of things in there. I know, but it's all ice cream now. So what I found, so, you know, there's not a lot.

I mean, maybe you should drive was considered by some as a bit of a letdown after the Gordon's success. I love this album. This is the first album where, you know,

Stephen is writing with Stephen Tintin Duffy. And this is the last album with both Kregan brothers. Oh, yeah. They, they, They, unlike the tragically hip, all of the songs have individual writing credits.

Like, this is 100% Ed. Really? Yeah. That's like Sting, who has full ownership of the song. Yeah. I think that's the way. I mean, those are the vocals for sure. Yeah.

It's just a neat little song that I get stuck in my head all the time. It was an album cut. Nobody else really ever talks about it. I just really like it. I loved that album. 92 it comes out. It was, you know. It's a good album.

Yeah. I mean, it had Jane, which was the That was a huge hit. And then alternative girlfriend was the other one that was kind of a hit. Also, both of those both written by Stephen Page and Steven Tintin Duffy, the two singles. Yes.

Anyway, yeah. Oh, and Life in a Nutshell is another great one. That was Paige and Ed wrote that together. I just like it. These apples are delicious. That's what that's it. I'm not going to read the comment that Rob Poohs put on the live scene. It wasn't very nice.

Without reading it, because I don't want to read it. I don't want it on recorded. No, no, no. So you felt that you felt Shayean vibes? Yeah. A little bit. Because when you have a subject matter expert on something,

I think we should be educated on. I think we're all three ignorant in that realm. And on the blues, I'm totally ignorant. I feel like that's important for us to learn as musicologists. For sure. And I get an expert on, I'm not going to tell him,

do it in 90 seconds or last you asshole. Definitely not. I feel like you guys all want the candy and the cotton candy and the in the marshmals, but sometimes you do need vegetables. I, it's food related. Right. The vegetables are food related. So I'm just going to say.

No, it's true. No, I was only kidding. Okay. And it's different where it's, and also, as you notice, without headphones, you can't interrupt. That's right. No, of course. I caught on very quickly. Oh, we're not going to be able to do that.

Okay. Because I know Bob tried a couple of them. But what I do find fascinating, what Dave enlightened us upon is the thread of all the music that is related to each other. because I never knew that that was 94 sorry that was 94 was it 94 yeah I thought it was I didn't know that the lemon song was based on the killing killing floor yeah yeah I had no idea well that that's super interesting I learned it and then I said oh I know somebody you can put some more contact and he saw Howl and Wolf perform life that's really cool Bob has a bonus jam oh mine is just yeah it's just this is this this track which was one of my favorites from born on a pirate ship I love it was actually recorded in the the maybe you should drive Era This is the Stephen Page

Break Your Heart has one of the favorite breakdowns later on in the song but this is Stephen at his best if you ask me. Stephen is very talented. He's the best. I'm a big fan.

He's a good guy. He's a very good guy. As pointed out in the WhatsApp FOTM group, solo sets by Steve Page right now are over half of it is Bear Naked Lady songs. Yep.

Yeah, yeah. He's not shying away from that stuff. He knows some of the best stuff he ever read. He sang. Of course. He can't ignore it. So this is Break Your Heart. I saw him do this at the Winter Garden Theater.

The top part. The up top part. It was a Jackson Triggs put it on. And it was a songwriter circle with Lindy Ortega, who's an amazing Canadian country, alt country artist. Alan Doyle of Great Big C. He's coming next week.

Amazing. I can't, Wait for that. Yeah. He wrote a book. And Stephen Page. And it was on Earth Day. Tom Power was doing the, so on Earth Day to, they did a, they all did a set completely

unplugged in that theater. And Stephen did this, stood out on front of the, at the front of the state. No mic, no nothing. Played the guitar. And there's, and. And no Toronto Mike either. And no Toronto Mike. Wow.

Ask me what I did last night when Bob's done his sentence. Okay. So, um, anyway. Anyway, and there's a great line. He was like, I don't know how he does it and not hurt his vocals on this. And, and, ah! Anyways, it's just beautiful.

And so this was actually recorded for the album before, before it came out. Didn't make the cut. Hold on. I realized I made those tongue-in-cheek, smart-ass comments about Leah and Rob Proust, and I see now that Leah's on the live stream. Uh-oh.

Did she comment? Just let me know if I'm in trouble because I was just having some fun. Of course you were. Well, make sure I'm not in trouble. I've been knowing to be, get myself in trouble with that. I want to say hello

not only to Leia who's on the live stream but also to 1236 who I just mentioned. I saw him, yeah. Oh, I didn't mention it in my name. Thanks to 1236

because he's the one that posted the link to the Silverstein podcast that I was been listening to this morning. Okay, well, that's very interesting. That's good. I can't believe you're cheating on me and listen to another podcast. You can only listen to Bob's basement.

I know. Andy Pandy, also know Andy the great degrassi freakoid is on the live stream. Oh, cool, Andy. Hello to Jayho. and I mentioned, Hey, Ref was there. He'll be back.

He was there. And, of course, hello to patio chair. And I actually don't know who patio chair is, but patio chair should come to TMLX21 on November 29 so we can meet patio chair. Also, hello to South Jersey Rick. South Jersey Rick is worth the drive to Mississauga. South Jersey.

Yeah, South Jersey Rick. That's who I'm reading here. So. Do you want to quickly turn up, so we're going to hear the yelling part? It's coming up right here. I like the yelling. I love this part. Greatest scream.

so it won't get fooled again. I just love it. I just... My heart will be fine. That's the most... It reminds me of Billy Phaer in the beat. It reminds me of Billy Phaer in the Beat, You know?

All right. Thank you for indulging me there. Yeah, thank you for indulging me. Apparently, I watched Family Ties too, okay. Mike, what did you do last night? Well, I wanted to share with the listenership that FOTM Sean Menard, who made the 299 Queen Street West documentary, and then I watched that documentary at Roy Thompson Hall,

this is a few years ago, and it never got released. You might have been following that adventure on Toronto Mike. Well, Sean Monard made another movie since then that also got premiered at Roy Thompson Hall, last night, and it's called Run Terry Run. And it's a documentary about Terry Fox, but you're like, I've seen 10, 15 documentaries. Right.

Well, some guy, he's still with us. He's 98 years old. I think his name is John Simpson or John Sampson or John. I can't believe I can't remember which one it is, but it's a name like that. This gentleman had like multiple camera operators taking footage of Terry Fox's run through the Maritimes into Quebec and then, of course, into Ontario until Thunder Bay.

and these canisters were sitting in some warehouse for like 40 years or whatever and Sean Menard was able to get his mitts on these like 98 film canisters of this footage of this footage that nobody has seen this documentary is full of footage you've never seen it is unbelievable wow wow it's I just here to report I have seen this documentary oh and here's another wild thing I've never seen before because I don't think they've ever done it but the score to this film so this film is called run Terry run the score was performed live by the Toronto Symphony Orchestra. Wow.

That's amazing. I know. And I saw John Torrey with his lady friend. I saw that picture. So when is it going to be released online? I don't have any further info. Oh, you probably's looking for a distributor, I guess, or something.

I think the Terry Fox Foundation is behind this. In terms of funding, and I think they have a lot of funding. Do you have a phone charger? Yeah, I'll get you one during the next jam. You're not in your jam coming up. You're not in trouble, by the way. Leah says you're not in trouble. She's enjoying watching Rob's.

squirm. Shut up now. Well, I have more questions on that. She says, end quote, minutes is the correct answer. Come on now. I thought it was minutes. First of all,

unlike Bob who gets married once for life, okay? You can plug it over time. There's still plenty of time. There's still plenty of time. You're not even 50 yet, right? When do you turn 50? January.

January. Are we having a party? I'm going to do something. Okay, good. I'm doing something. Maybe we'll try to organize it around your, around your visit. Yeah.

That would be amazing. How much longer are you on Broadway for? Only so February 1st. Okay, I've got to convince my wife to let me come down. This is your song? No, you can't cross into enemy territory. No, you can't. But I want to see him.

Yeah, you know. You can see him in my basement. I have a story. I forgot about my story. Is this yours? Yeah, this is mine, but it's got a long buildup. You want to tell your story quick? It takes a long time.

Okay. It's a long story. Longer than David Schultz? Yep. Nope. I got to go upstairs and get you a charger. Okay, we'll get one. I would love that.

You can talk over it, but listen. No, no, we'll keep listening. We're enjoying this island. It is not a radio show. Oh, I think I know this. I can name that tune in zero notes. No, is this... It's got to be food, though.

No, yeah, I think... Is this mayonnaise? Is this... This is how Bob... This is how Bob and Doug made their record. Sounds like smashing pumpkins now. I can tell by that guitar sound As soon as that goes

Yeah I saw at the beginning I wasn't sure As soon as the guitar kicks in your But again I don't think it's about mayonnaise It's like a very cool song Every when I played that thing Where Are My Keys

That comedian who did the Billy Corkin Where My Keys Yes Right here yesterday Did I ever play the one with Billy Corrigan going down a going down a roller coaster from 1979

Oh no I'll send it to you It's very funny Oh god Jeremy Hopkins said that It sounded like creed What do you have? Oh no you

It's an iPhone Oh yeah no that won't work He doesn't have an iPhone Do you have an iPhone? No it won't work I need lightning Yeah I don't have one with me That won't work

He doesn't have it won't work Thank you for trying, though. Thank you for trying, though. Thank you for playing along. This is mayonnaise. Yeah, you were right. He knew it. He guessed it. It's a big pumpkins jam.

Not a single, though, was it? No, not a single. It was just a beloved pumpkins jam. Yeah, so. Is that an old iPhone that needs a special charger? No, well, lightning charger. No, no. They haven't converted over to the USB Cs.

Yeah, I think the next generation. They have to, yeah, because of the Euro. Right. Yeah. They spelled mayonnaise wrong. This song, of course, Smashing Pumpkins, which is from Simey's Dream, my favorite pumpkins album. Yes.

That came out of 93, by the way. Mayonaze, the song, has one end where there should be two ends. This is produced by not just Billy Corrigan, the control freak, but a guy known as Butch Vig. Just him. A guy known as Buttigig. Very famous because of his Nevermind, for example. Garbage?

Garbage. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah. Butch Vig's amazing. Yep. Butch Big is great here. So, I love that they regard this as a Shoegays song on Wikipedia.

It's not from the... Maybe a gay birth to Shugays. I don't know. Probably the most beloved. Pumpkin's song that was never released as a single. That's an interesting cover. This would, really?

Yeah. Like the Pumpkins fans love mayonnaise. Okay, so you got Billy Corgan. Lead vocals, guitars, bass guitar, production, mixing. He does it all. James I-hi is guitars backing vocals.

Darcy Retsky on bass and backing vocals and Jimmy Chamberlain on drums. Here's a fun fact for a big 90s band like this. It's kind of unusual that all members of smashing pumpkins are still alive. That's true. That's a fun, weird, true fact, yeah.

I think Pearl Jam, they're all alive. Right. Yep. But there's not many examples of these bands where all the members are intact. That's true. Can I tell you a little something about a former member of the one, Melissa Offdemar? Of course. So Melissa, off.

She's interesting. I saw her in 2000. So she's, yeah, so she's Canadian. So my wife's been hanging out with her. Oh, she does art. She's photo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she's, the AGO, is doing a show of Melissa Optomar's photography coming up.

And it's, Laura's gotten to see some of these pictures from the 90s with hole and with Smashing Pumpkins. And so she's like, like, Laura was, I was like, how was your day? She was like, oh, you know, I was just hanging out with Melissa Offdemar for the day. She lives up to stay in New York, like in Kingston or something, right? Yep. I've seen a cool little documentary. So keeping the ear out for that, it's going to be a pretty amazing show. Wow.

She was taking pictures from the stage. She had like a camera on that she could... No, not a time. That she could use, like, her pedal to take pictures with as a whole thing. I have taken a run at Melissa Offdemar. You might have a better chance when she comes back for this. I filled in a form on her website, for example, but maybe if she's a got an art gallery. You got an in now.

Yeah, you got an in now. I'm going to drop Boggs on. She's got to be over. I don't know when it's coming up. Maybe I'm not allowed to talk about it. I'm allowed to talk about you like. Is it embargoed? I talk about all the embargoed things. If you want me to talk about something, just tell me it's embargoed.

That's right. No, I think it's okay. No embargoes. Oh, I did want to shout out Bill Viggers, the late, great, he's an FOTM. There's a great Bill Viggers episode. But when I watch this documentary, you realize the big guy, he's got a best friend. So Terry Fogg. Oh, the guy who was with Terry.

Yeah, so that was such a good conversation you had with him. It's called Melissa Offdemar, My 90s, Photographs, opening September 2026. Oh, cool. So there goes. So it is happening. Okay, long way off, but okay I'll come back to this cover here, but just, okay, so here's the big

principals here, okay, you got, he had a best friend named Doug, Terry I'm talking about. Terry Fox, since he was in grade 10 or something, had a best friend named Doug, who goes to Newfoundland for that Marathon of Hope. Yeah. He's got a brother who kind of comes about about a month later or so, Darrell Fox,

who's only like 17, just kind of leads high school early to kind of help out because it's a lot, they bit off a lot more than they could chew. It's just Doug and Terry doing this thing. So you got Doug who's still with us. I saw him yesterday at the Wright Thompson home. He was there.

Yeah. Daryl was there. It was good to see him. And then when they get to Ontario, because Quebec does, Quebec is a flop. Like, they didn't give a fuck. They almost ran them over. Once they cross over the border into Ontario, now they got OPP protects him. Yeah.

He'd run on the highways, right? Quebec just didn't give a fuck about the Terry box run, right? But so then you get Bill Viggers. And Bill Vigors, of course, wasn't at Roy Thompson. Hall because shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. He's no longer with us. But he did give me a good, you know, 6. Yeah, it was so good.

He was a key part of when it all kicks into overdrive and when Kerry Fox becomes a super celebrity, which is, of course, when he gets to Toronto, really. Scarborough. Bill was such a cool guy. Oh, you know who was there yesterday? Daryl Sittler. What? Because Sittler gives them the jersey, the All-Star jersey at Nathan Phillips Square.

Does he still have a mustache? Daryl Sillard did not have the mustache. That's Lanny McDonald. Oh, thank you. Why? Is that a common thing? It is not. Daryl Sittler doesn't have a mustache. Lanny McDonald does.

You know who else had a mustache? Freddie Mercury. Rance Mollinix. Rance had a killer. But guess who I'm talking to tomorrow? Who? Rans Mollinx? Rens Mollinx?

No way. That's cool. Is he in town? See, it all comes back to the Maston. Oh. You give Rance Mullenx a Zoom call. Well, when you're number five. I was disappointed that Hockley Workman did a Zoom because you posted on our chat group.

Okay, here's how it works. I know. When you're a friend and Hawksley's wife wrote me in. email and just said, hey, he's got a show at the Danforth Music Hall. Could he come on and chat you up and then help sell a few tickets or whatever? So I literally did it because I'm a good guy. No, he's so, I love him so much. He's a good guest, too. And I, he's a very good talker. He's so good. But you had made a reference to it on our chat group. And I got the impression from what you had referenced that he was actually coming in. And I thought, well, that's the

where you make a sound. I know. I said, I actually am careful not to, because I'll say in the basement actually. I know. Unlike Bob's basement where you're in the basement remotely. That's right. I don't, yeah. No, no. I mean What's the status of Bob's basement? You know, I'm, I was actually, I've done a couple episodes by myself now. And I was just working on getting

Brandon Boyd of Incubus on. Because he's got an art show coming up here at 99 Yorkville. He's in town. And they reached out to me and then they turned me down. If you reach out to me, the PR agency reached out to me. And I said, yeah, you know

what? I'll do half an hour. I just want it a half an hour. I'll do 30 minutes of my podcast. And I said, I'll play clips on my number one rated weekend show, by the way. We'll talk about that as of December 5th person, like, for sure. But my Saturday show is the most listened to radio show in Toronto on Saturdays. So, uh, does that include CBC Radio 1? Everybody. Wow. That's a mind blow. That is. Yeah. It's not official yet. It's not even a fun fact. It's not official yet. But yeah. Um, basically. I'm about ready to crack open number two. Okay, let me just quickly just say that that version of mayonnaise was by

The Academy is, and it was from a tribute album, a 20, 2007. That wasn't the original? No, that was the second, I played two songs. Oh, I just thought it was that long. The second one was the Academy is drowned. Did you provide that? I thought it was like drown.

Yeah. Did you provide that? Did I provide what? Oh, wait, what was the song you were just playing? Mayanase. It was my turn, Bruce. I thought it was. Get your head in the game.

Oh my God. The minutes and the month. Mine is over. I'm still thinking about Halen Wolf. You know what, though. one day you'll say thank you for the education. I didn't realize the importance of Howland. Oh, I know the importance of Howland Wolf.

Do you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, no. You don't talk about him very often. I don't need to talk about him. No, I have one Howlin Wolf album because he released that album in 71 called The Howland Wolf Sessions with Eric Clapton and Bill Wyman

and a couple other cool people, like Stones related. And I read about this album and I was like, I need to listen to this. Ginger Baker? Maybe, I don't know. Okay, can you please tell me any words before your second jam? Is it me? Yeah, true, too. It's a food jam, and this was the second song that came into my head after the first song I played.

I'm going to be around my vegetables. I'm going to chow down my vegetables. I love you. Most of all, my favorite vegetable. I've got to pee. I know I had to pee before that. I don't want to hear this. I jump up and down and hope you toss me a carrot

I'm going to keep well My vegetables card off and sell My vegetables I Love you most of all My favorite vegetable All tape of vegetables Sounds good in the headphones I tried to kick the ball

Fun fact, that's Paul McCartney, chew, and celerated. That is a fun fact. Thank you for using that term appropriately. Could be a mind blow. So this is the Beach Boys, obviously. I think it's more fun fact than my book. In 1966, they were recording after the success of Pet Sounds, Brian's next project was called Smile. This is the infamous, from the infamous smile sessions.

Speaking of Stephen Page. Speaking of Stephen Page, that's right. He was not in bed yet. He was actually recorded. So this was the version that was on the album called Smiley Smile. Okay. Came out in 1968, I believe. They sort of cobbled the bits and pieces together to release something.

I have all this on CD. I've never opened it. Am I correct that after Pet Sounds? Yeah. Good Vibrations is the big hit. Good Vibrations was recorded. It was going to be for Smile. It was going to be for Smile.

They recorded it as a single, and then they released it because they were like, we've got to get something out. Brian was in the studio day and night. Too good to come. contained for like a year and a half, right, working on this shit. And it's all crazy. People are like, what's he doing? We don't know. And what exists is hours and hours of outtakes

and snippets of bits and pieces. And if anybody is ever interested, there's like so many bootlegs and pieces you can hear online. So, this is from Smiley Smile. The next thing I'm going to play, I discovered it's a promotional thing. All right, now look, let's do this thing. All right, how?

Clear as a bellar. Now look, I stepped in your, I stepped in your vegetables. I stepped in your garden. And you're mad. And tape is rolling, right? Okay. All right. Listen, Meathead, I don't know who you think you are, but I'm giving you fair warning. You're going to get a tomato all over your puss.

Don't say puss. Do it again. You're really threatening me. Really big, sir. You see this tomato? Yeah. How'd you like to get it right in your face? I don't care.

Throw it. Don't get smart, kid. Let me have a radish. Take your hands off of those radishes. Those are my vegetables. How'd you like to get pushed over that hill? Don't get smart with me, laugh smart aleck punk oh wait a second hell you can't be so you don't want to be mean you want to

just be you know you don't want to be that's the idea man but you're taking my vegetables it's got to be more of the thing where you're not really that mad you just put on threatening you know what i mean well brian you're either mad or you ain't no you can let's do one more let it roll all right oh is it all right if i take a couple of these carries i said no i don't want you have them. Let me just put them in my glove compartment. Look, I spent a lot of time on weekends growing those vegetables. I haven't had anything to eat for weeks. Would you just move on? Why can I have a little? Move on. Get a job somewhere and buy some vegetables. Let's go home. So Brian was recording some sort of a radio promotional thing with Hal Blaine is the drummer

who played with the wrecking crew. Hal played on like all the hits. Yes, but can I just shed out one particular? That opening drum from Be My Baby. Yes, of course. So that's How Blaine with Brian Wilson in the studio doing some goofing around thing. That's funny. And I thought that was cool. Because there's all these snippets and pieces of the sessions from that whole album. But this Vegetables, Vegetables song, there's so many incarnations. So this next thing I want you.

But that song, Vegetables is not good, right? It's fun. It's fun. It's like a kid song. It's on electric company or something. Sure. But that's the problem with smiles, is that the whole thing was all these snippets of fun, cool, weird. So when you hear vegetables by Beach Boys, you say that's a great song.

Sure. I think it's really cool. You think great? I don't think it's great. All because it's Beach Boys doesn't mean it's going to be. a great song. No, but I appreciate the experimentation. Play the next track. So the next one is from the sessions themselves that wasn't like the final product. This is like a work in progress kind of the thing. So you hear other things. I'm going to be round, my vegetables. I'm going to

try down my vegetables. I love you most of my favorite vegetable. So McCartney in there I don't know if he comes in on this one yet but the rumor was that he visited the studio and Brian was like, hey, go out there and it's, it's, Paul doesn't confirm it but people who were there said, yeah, he came in and like recorded like 10 seconds of chewing.

So on coast alone, you isolated all the Brian Wilson talk. Yeah. You would probably decipher that we think he's a fucking musical genius. Yeah. And there's so much great Brian Wilson. See, I think this kind of, I think these snippets and pieces are genius as well because they don't exist as a final form

but it's a work in progress where in 1966 the Beatles were going in to do Sergeant Pepper they were just about to release Sergeant Pepper at this time yeah because they were influenced by Pet Sounds right so back and forth these dudes fucking around in the studio Brian didn't know what he was doing that he'd bring in an orchestra

and a whole band and do these bits and pieces and guide them and they were basically making it up as they went along but that can get you two results it can give you good vibrations one of the greatest singles Or it can give you this. I'm just here to point out a statement that all because you're a musical genius

doesn't mean everything you shit out is a piece of genius. No, it's true. But you also... Especially when you use the term shit out. But also... Well, the vegetables in your colon. But the process doesn't involve the term genius. The process involves I'm just shitting out everything.

How much time did you wait after I've separated from my husband, Rob, before you said, do you want to go to the movies? Oh, we went to the movies before we were even... So why did you say months? I like the way you're avoiding the question. How long after I've separated from my husband, Rob, did you wait before you kissed her on the lips? Oh, that was months.

She says minutes. No, that was not minutes. Either you're lying or she's lying. Well, the minute, the question was not about it. Which one of you two is lying? Yeah, neither of us. No, neither of us. It was months.

But we knew it was coming. So she's lying. You know, because we liked each other. But it was like, you're married. I'm not, we're not doing anything. Oh, I'm not saying you crossed the boundary. Yeah, yeah. Once she says to you, we've separated, Bob.

You're not waiting months before you kiss her. No, it was still months. We're not stupid. No, no, we are. It was still months. Because she lived in Queens and I lived in New York. Oh, that's why. So just phone sex.

No, not even that. I didn't have a cell phone in those days. And you don't right now either. For the record, you can have phone sex on an old-fashioned dial phone. That's true. But I don't know. You think phone sex only came when cell phones arrived? I don't think so.

I don't think so. 1416-9-76 or something. Oh, my God. Party lines? Oh, my God. Party line, 976. 8-5-85. 14-1.

So you don't like the vegetable song. It's a goofy song. I don't think if you're going to tell me all these examples of Brian Wilson, Genius. I don't think vegetables is on your list. No, it's on my list. But it's also on the list of people who like... How long is your fucking list?

It's really long. Really long. I went, when I first... I'm not talking about your penis. I'm talking about your list. When I first moved to New York, I went to, I went to, like, a record store downtown and bought this box set of smile. sessions. It was 10 CDs.

I have so. Because in 2001, you couldn't still go online and find anything. So why do I find vegetables boring? In 2011, they released this five disc set. I have that. I've never opened it. Yeah. That's in 11. That was basically all the bootlegs like officially released. I've never opened it. I have it. You have it? You mean the physical version? Yeah, I've got a CD. Bring it to me. Bring it to me. You know what? You can have it if you don't want it. I do love that shit. I don't

have a CD player right now. But the thing is I love these kind of like outtakes where it's like minutes and minutes of just like screwing around the studio because there's a final product that comes at the end, but you don't know what it is until you get there. Good vibrations have the same journey. If you go to the good vibrations bootlegs, there are so many versions.

Oh yeah, no, but that's an example where because I just recently saw the biopic on Brian Wilson so right. I feel like I was there, okay? Wasn't really there. But he could visualize like he had a vision to see the fully formed, I guess here, the fully formed single and all these different

parts like an orchestra he'd be a conductor he'd play the orchestra yeah and then it did all come together to what i think is one of the greatest singles but it didn't come together like that that's your imagination but it's not true it does because i've heard the single well sure but but the single final product but the single is the final product but even the final product is not necessarily what he intended it to be because you'd have to take the journey of all the experimentation but he took that journey as the leader he took the journey and brought us to what eventually would result in the single good vibrations yeah yeah but he didn't know that was going to be the ending point he would have he would love to go in fact he did re-record all that music he

but when you're not here to shit on uh brian wilson but when who am i to shit is right you're really a sound in the rain no but when you hear vegetables yeah does your brain think it is on par with good vibrations yes yes so from the musical standpoint i find that fascinating yeah yeah but i'm not a musician like you no i appreciate it in in a strictly uh productive way like as a as a creator bob doesn't have my back on this one I'm kind of neutral. He's saying that song Vegetables is on par with good vibration.

In his mind, he hears it on par. Yeah. It's on par as far, because I listen to it as a creator. Here is your mind. Yeah, where's my mind? No, I listen to it as a creator, knowing the journeys that Brian Wilson went through,

only because it's like, it's legendary. The smile sessions are legendary, but there's 10, there's hours and hours and hours of good vibrations in like 12 other songs. Let's hear from above. It's interesting because I think Mike is thinking

very much about the final product and whether or not it is objectively or subjectively a good song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so, and everything's subjective because it's music. But objectively speaking,

there is a way to say, you know what, good vibrations. It's not the same as vegetables. They're not even, it's apples and oranges in that point. Talk about food. How many radio spins

in the United States of America would vegetables get? Nothing. No, nothing. Like zero practically. But the good thing is, that's something metric we can look at to say, oh, the people

aren't demanding vegetables. No, no, no. But that doesn't mean, subjectively, Rob doesn't appreciate it as much as the craft that took to build vibrations. Because the secret is Brian doesn't care. Right?

Brian's in the studio making vegetables. He doesn't care. The biopic, he seems to care a lot. No, well, he cares about it. Yeah, yeah, but he doesn't care about, he doesn't care about success. No. Commercial success. He's basically, like you said, he's just shitting out music, nonstop, and some of it becomes a hit.

Some of it is experimental. And he doesn't care because he's like, I'm just trying to If you ask me or the average person on the street, you play these two songs for them. 99.9999.99. Yeah. Good vibrations is a better song. A hundred percent. Of course. No, they might find Rob. No. That's not a question. That's not a question.

Rob Proust is vegetables a better song than good vibrations? No. There you go. And also, it's like giving out awards for like for music. It's art. It's art. Yeah. It's like when all the nominees get up. All the nominees get up and the all the nominees gets up and says, I'm so honored to be in the, in the company of all these other nominees because we all do great art. And it's not a contest. there's not a contest so Brian Wilson it's not a contest

in the art that he created in his life but if you're gonna put on a playlist here's a crit if you're gonna put on a beach boys playlist I would put vegetables on

okay fine if you want to empty the party room I don't care only the good people will stay around I'm just saying it's not a great song it's a great artist

who's produce a not particularly great song I've never once in my life said to myself I'd like to hear some vegetables now well you give it a few years

you're gonna come back to this You're going to be like, you know what, I do want to listen to that. And you're going to be like, I want to hear that fucking McCartney crunch. Yeah, McCartney Chalery. Come on now. It's a good guest appearance. Bob Willett, any words before your second jam?

Yeah. Only on second jam. I know, I know. Oh my God. This particular, this particular song came to mind. I don't think I actually included. There was a cover of it that would have been on. No, I know.

I know, but I actually, none of that includes the one that I thought of first. But then I got on this, this deep. Just play it and we'll talk. Oh, I like it already. We're in a honky tongue. Hey, hey, good-looking. Oh, yeah. What you got cooking.

Classic. How's about cooking something up with me? Hey, sweet baby. Don't you think maybe we could find us a brand new recipe. Great, too. So, yeah, we've got Hey Good Looking by Hank Williams, released in, like, 42. Amazing.

And so when I was a kid, my parents always, my grandparents were always had CFGM on, 1320. The, or 1420, there's a, what is it? Because I don't even know this station. CFGM was a country station in the 80s. I remember that. Yes.

So it started off at 1430, then they put the fan there, and they move CFGM to 1320. Music of your life was 1430. No, yeah. Yeah, well, see, before that. Yeah, like, I'm talking to early 80s. Like, and there was a country state. So my, my grandparents always had music on in the background.

Is this high of the mic flash? CJCL. Yeah. Oh, and I forgot to wear my earring. Don't tell Morgan. So maybe it was, yeah. So anyhow, CFGM of the calls. That's all I know.

I don't remember the numbers. And, but they would have been playing Ricky Skaggs's version of this. He had this and country boy, which was one of my favorite songs as a kid that he, he did. So, interesting, you know, when we started talking about, food. I'm like, I started about thinking about this. Hit me. Yeah, cooking. That's great. I thought about his. But then I got on this, like, doing some research

on the song. And this is actually, so what happened was, this is really interesting. Hank Williams, uh, was friends with Jimmy Dickens. And, uh, he was a, you know, a Nashville star, right? Nashville, Memphis. But he didn't have any national hits until this. And they said, he was on a

plane with mini pearl. And he, they said, you need to write a hit. And 20 minutes later, he came out with this. This song. Now, here's the thing. This song, quote, borrows heavily from, sorry, this is not from 42. This was released in 49, I think. From the 1949, 1942 Broadway musical, Something for the Boys with Ethel Merman.

Really? Listen to the, so this is what he borrowed from. I think is the next, this is the next mind blow. Yeah, here, they talk a little. That's important. You can't get much to that anymore. They're only allowed a few pounds of that. Out of week.

What are you talking about? Or maybe I go backwards. Boy, look at those drumsticks. How'd you like a kick in the teeth with one of those drumsticks? She'll come up and see me some, Jerry. And this is the womanhood. I'm fighting to protect. And this is the woman.

Oh, this is from the musical. Yeah, this is a scene from the musical. What are you doing down here in Texas? I'm going to help the government. I'm going to try to do something for the boy. So this is the title track. This is Ethel Merman. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Daddy's head green I was but oh so busy living beyond so interesting thing about this this was on Broadway they did 600 performances

or something of it one for the boys never there was no official recording of this particular one until 1985 somebody found it on like a bunch of reels from a shortwave radio

broadcast they did that's what this is from so this is Ethel Merman doing something for the boys. I'm always doing something. So the next one now will be the song that they stole from.

From this show. Yeah. This is it. He borrowed heavily from, quote. Hey, good looking. Say what's cooking. Love it. Do you feel like booking some fun tonight?

But this is 1940. This is a cover from the show. That's super cool. By the, what are they called? The Letterman or something? No. I can't remember. So that's from the musical.

Love it. So that Hey, it took him. It inspired. He stole it. Yeah. It took him 20 minutes to write it because he stole it. That's it. Wow.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, good looking. That's super cool. Now, his story, what's his name? Hank Williams's version It's a little more like It's got like entendre Right double entendres So this was much much cleaner

Sure And this is from the musical This is all from the musical Yeah So I just thought it was funny He wrote it in 20 minutes Because it's basically all He took the first two lines

It just did it over and over again That's awesome though Now if you do that today Some fucking lawyer would be suing somebody's ass Oh 100% So the interesting part is This musical was written by Cole Porter Really

So Cole Porter Gets all the writing credits on the stuff from the musical but that this is Hank that's Hank William's song hey good looking no Cole Porter mention at all that's good

no co-porter's lawyers would have been on that yeah oh back yeah now they would so for no good reason there you go I'm gonna say sting has a co-writing credit

on money for nothing that's right right did he get all the royalties but doesn't he sing on it well he sings yeah but he only has a co-writing because I want my MTV is to the tune

of don't stand so close to me wow that's the only reason he has a co-writing credit. Rob Proust dropped that fact a couple of months I was actually just listening to Brothers and Arms on my vinyl out in the

and really getting because they used that actually as a way to test stereos. It was the first record to be done in a 24-track studio at Sony Records. It was really? Wow.

So this last mind blow our fun fact. This is Ethel Merman redid this in the 70s. We did one for the boys and you can take a list of it. This is from the 1979 Ethel Merman

Disco album. Is it on the disco album? Yeah, this is it. Oh, my God. And this is all from the same musical. But I didn't even know this existed. I did. I love it.

Oh, yeah. This is amazing. Rob was listening to this in his car ride. I sure was. Queen. And I shouldn't say I didn't know it. I did know it. I didn't know it was Ethel Merman.

Yeah. I didn't know it was from the musical. Oh, my God. I mean, I actually knew it was Ethel Murch. I worked for the gay radio station for a long time, so I had there. Did you ever play Ethel Merman? Yeah, we played. Yeah.

for sure on Sunday mornings for sure you know what you got what you got what you got what you're doing what you got hey what you're doing what you got here comes you know who does an invitation

of Ethel Merman everybody? Yeah but Fred Patterson Oh yes you yeah Hello my baby Hello my honey Oh everything's coming up Oh geez yeah

I thought your mind blow would be Are you ready for some football? No, Hank Williams Junior, senior, the third is out now too, right? Hank Williams, the third is a country artist out too. Oh, yeah, Joe's mentioning that the third is a country singer now too. Yeah. So there you go.

That's amazing. Going all the way back to Haygood-Look and what you got cooking. Yes, that's right. That's right. So, yeah, so we took some steps from Hey, Good Look, into What You Got Cook into a disco album in 1916. 79 there.

Hey, what did you think of Hamilton beer from Fairweather? Oh, I loved my I loved my Pilsner. The feast beer was good too. Somebody online said that they make good beer.

They know, or somebody on the... I think it's Tobias Follon. They have nice labels too. Like, it's good packaging. I may be during the next song, I'll find out the name of the woman who I spent such lovely time with it

because she was very lovely and she works at Fair Weather. So does that count? Are you good looking at what you got cooking? Is that a good food jam? I think it's a great food jam. And I feel like it's a little related to lemon and how

and Wolf because you're like, it's like old school. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I have David Schultz here to tell us more about. There he comes. More about Ethel Merman. Deep dive. I really like David Shultz.

I just want to go ahead. And I would say his kick out the jams episode will make you cry. Yeah. Wow, I got to listen to it. I think, I'm trying to think of all the real tears that were shed in this studio. That might be the, of all the episode of Toronto Mike. There's a moment in the kick out the jams from David Shultz, which I think is the most, like, the most real,

emotional tear moment in the history of this podcast. Seriously. You've had a lot of them, though. I'm telling you my thoughts on this, Mr. Proust, okay? There's a moment where he kicks out a jam, and he tells a story about how that jam relates to him and why. Wow. And that, I think, in the history of this podcast,

is the most heartfelt emotional moment. I'm going to listen to that tomorrow. Well, let's all listen right now together. Here we go. Okay, here we go. So, good job, Bob Willett. One last jam from me. This will be quick.

We're kicking out our food jams here. thinks it goes she'll make your breakfast she'll make your toast but she don't use butter and she don't use cheese

she don't use jelly or any of these she uses Vaseline Vaseline Vaseline Fascine I know a guy who goes to shows

When he's at home and He blows his nose You don't use tissues Or his sleeve You don't use This Rob Proust, because I know you're not familiar of this song. You weren't watching any much music in the early 90s. I was watching a little bit.

Okay, well, this was, it is, the flaming lips. This is the flaming lips. Oh, that's a surprise to me. That's amazing. I feel like it felt vaguely familiar. Okay, that's Wayne Coyne. I thought so. She don't use jelly.

Yeah, yeah. from 1993's transmissions from the satellite heart. Yeah, but is that food related? What do you think jelly is? Well, and tangerine. She doesn't use jelly on her toast. She doesn't use his Vaseline, actually. And then there's also something about tangerine.

It's more foodie than most of your jams, Pruss. No, these are the most food. Vegetables. They're just lists of food so far. That's right. List of ice cream. It's true. No, listen, I will put it up against the tribunal that she don't.

Don't use jelly. Oh, I give you this for a food jam. It's not jam, it's jelly. Okay. The Flaming Lips, and this is the biggest hit of their career. What? No way. And, yeah, and, and you might have seen it featured on Beavis and Budhead.

Maybe that's where I heard it. Okay. I used to watch Beavis and Budhead. I still watch Beavis and Budhead. I like Beavis and. I love them. Oh, yeah. But when did you start watching them in the 90s?

Wait, it was on much music. Was it on much music? Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Really? A lot of those MTV shows were picked up by much. Yeah. My memory of watching Beavis and Butthead, which is weird,

and when my parents lived in Germany in the 1990s, I'd go over there and they had MTV Europe on, and I would watch it over there. No, we got Beavis and Budhead on Our Much Music here in the T-DOT. That's cool. Here's a fun fact. This band played two fantastic places I'll tell you about right now.

One is, much like the Bear Naked Ladies, which we heard earlier in the program, this band The Flaming Lips, played the Peach Pit. They did. Yeah. They played the Peach Pit, which, for those who don't know, that was the fictional venue slash diner. Diner.

Yeah. 902.1. Shout out to Kathleen Robertson. Oh, my God. A beloved Hamiltonian FOTM. Okay. Afterwards, I got to tell you a fun fact. You've got to get Jason Priestley on.

I had him on. No, you have had him on. That's right. As I said that. And now shout out to, we mentioned them earlier, but shout out to Gere Joyce, who wrote the book that Private Eyes. Is that what it's called? Private Eyes is based on.

They're watching you. Okay. Well, now we're back to you. They wrote that song. We played earlier. Okay. One more fun fact. I had the gentleman who created Saras Stock on this program, Jerry Grafstein.

He also created City TV and YTV and Omni. Oh, right. Jerry Grafstein, who created Saras Stock, will tell you that the Flaming Lips played Sarastock. Yes. I have heard that as well. Yeah. That's a fact. It's a fact.

What time they go on? Like 11 a.m.? Earlier. Yeah. It was still bright out. Okay. They weren't going to go out. after the ACDC there.

But here's a song. I'm not a mind blow or anything for those who are falling along at home, but one of my favorite songs of all time is a flaming lip song. It's the best song ever. This is... This song makes me cry.

I know. It's a Ridley Theater home song. Oh, love it so much. And I was going to close the show with this, but I'm not closing. Our show today? But I'm not closed. It's another person.

So, do you have the most beautiful face? Do you realize? We're floating in space. So Pruss is on here, I can tell you, Pruss's wife is sharing that they saw the Flaming Lips Live. Oh. And he still didn't recognize that song. While they were dating or while they were friends, quote unquote.

I don't have this. I'm just speculating that this, seeing them live is probably while she was married to somebody else. You know, Pruss is an animal, right? Like, he's just, uh, ever since the spoons broke, Pruss has been, like, crushed on. Oh, well. Yeah. desired, like passionately pursued, whether you're, like, available or not.

It's like magnetism. Well, he's a lovely man. Well, he's a freak in the sheets is what I'm hearing here. Wow. She says they were dating. Okay. All right, right. And he saw the flaming lips open for Tool back in the night.

That's a very, very strange live music combo, actually, Tool and Flaming Lips. Well, these guys are kind of artistic and... Yeah, but both loud. in a way like I can see it they're both kind of alty like in their own ways okay they're alty

in very different ways though one is very artsy and the other is very hard you don't think that the tool's artsy well it's sort of like rush is artsy I don't know it's like

well I don't know I don't get rush so tool is like the rush of modern times am I out to lunch oh I don't I don't make that I actually I like I actually like tool so I don't know where's my musicologist

when I need him get it it's having a long whiz in there. Okay. I do have another little bonus fun fact. I love that. That song is beautiful. We agree on that one. When we did beautiful jams, that could have been one. Yeah. For sure.

Sounds like America so far. Do you realize? Oh. Really? Yeah. With his sons? I know it just a lot. I can still hear you when I'm not in the room and now I'm in trouble because she said watch it Mike

she's out to lunch I mean she's having lunch with friends are you familiar of the song Do You realize Robb? Absolutely familiar I love it It's one of my favorites So this is a cover by Willie Nelson It's from a fairly recent album really

It's from late 2024. It's called Last Leaf on the Tree. And it's basically a wild album when you listen to it. It's Willie Nelson who's kind of facing off against death. Imminent death. I mean, nobody out in the wind lives forever. He's still alive, right? Yeah, he is.

He's still kicking. Trigger is too. And you got a lot of like what I would call great Ridley Funeral Home songs. Like you got Warren Zevon. Oh, yeah, yeah. Tom Waits, Neil Young, Beck, these kind of great songs that make you contemplate it all. Well, but everybody's going to die eventually. right? Do you realize?

Everyone's going to die eventually. All three of us will die. But we're all three banking on it being decades from now. Yeah, but don't bank on it because you don't even, nobody knows, right? But don't live your life waiting to die is the secret. So you're saying I shouldn't have gone on a 30K bike ride in that snowstorm. No, no, it's good to live your life adventurously, of course. I'm sorry, I have to take this call. The guy's coming to fix my dishwasher.

God's sake. It's okay. It's fine. Rob goes next. I go next anyway. So Rob. You never miss my song. Do you want to wait a bit or do you want to go?

We can wait. he's going to get a time You can ask me any more questions you want He's got a broken dishwasher He's got such a homeowner domestic issue It's what it is He said he feels like he's living Over a burial ground or something

That's right ladies and gentlemen We're peeling back the curtain Your favorite DJ on Indy88 Also has a broken dishwasher It's true Everybody gets a month Yeah he rocks out on the weekends On Indy 88 but during the weekdays

He's got broken dishwashers today He's got his kids in art school paying tribute to the brave soldiers to keep their lives for our freedom I apologize for taking a call all of me any words before your final jam my final jam?

No this was the third song that came into my head so really just in this order can Willie take us home on this? Okay let Willie take us home on this there he goes do you realize that you have

Beautiful face, do you realize? You know I love that organic cooking, I always ask for more. And they call me Mr. Natural on down to the health food store. I only eat good seesaw, white sugar don't touch my lips. and my friends is always begging me to take them on macrobotic trips yes they are

all but night I take out my strong box that I keep under lock and key and I take it off to my closet where nobody else can see I open that door so slowly take a peek up north and south then I pull out a host is Twinkie

and I pop it in my mouth Yeah, in the daytime I'm Miseratural, just as healthy as I can be. But at night, I'm a junk food junkie. Good Lord, have pity on me. Well, at lunchtime, you can always find me at the whole earth's vitamin bar. He wants to talk about my head's on a pottery jar. and sipping little hand-pressed cider with a carrot stick for dessert

and wiping my face in a natural way on the sleeve of my peasant shirt Oh yeah Ah, but when that clock strikes midnight And I'm all by myself I work at combination On my secret hideaway shelf And I pull out some fritos corn chips

Dr. Pepper and an old moon pie Then I sit back in glorious expectation of a genuine junk food high Then I'm Mr. Matt. Who is this, Rob? This is a guy named Larry Gross. Any relation to Peter? Not at all. GROCE.

Oh. Do you know what my son said the other day? Nope. I'm Peter Gross and my feet are gross. Oh, nice. It's funny. You figured that out. That combination of words.

It works good. No, Larry Gross. GROC. This was a hit on the radio. Top 40 hit in Canada in 1975. It was a top 10 hit in America. 1975 and talking about organic food. Well, that's the thing.

It's very much ahead of the time. It was very on the nose at the time because health food was starting to become a thing. People were talking about great nuts flakes and granolas and things. Wow. And so he had this, it was like a novelty song. I love junk food junkie. It was very fun. I just wanted on the public record.

I love granola. I had granola for breakfast. And I like some plain, the Greek yogurt with blueberries and granola. Yeah. Can't beat it. I had it this morning. Can't beat it. I had granola and yogurt this morning, too. This guy became, you guys are weird.

This guy became like an NPR radio DJ for many years. He's still alive. What's the first name? What's the song called? It's called Junk Food Junkie. Oh, there you go. There it is. But what is it again? What gross?

Because there's another famous NPR host named Gross, right? Mary Gross. I believe. But his is GROCE. Number nine on the Billboard. Hot 100. Come on now. I loved this song.

Oh, G. G.R.O.C. Like gross. without an R. And it went to number 31 in Canada. That's what I'm talking about. Wow. I loved it.

I never owned it, but I loved when it came on the radio because it was so goofy. A natural diet. So apparently he's really been well known for many decades. It's not Mary Gross. It's Terry Gross.

I was close. Come on now. I'm so close. I'm like, that doesn't sound right. But he's American. He would know. It sure sounds close. No, this song is Larry Gross.

No, the NPR. The, I'm Terry Gross. I'm Terry Gross. This is NPR. Oh, there's a fresh air, I think. Fresh air, I think. Mackenzie Phillips performed it once on Jackson's Variety Show.

That's right. In 1976. See, I lived. Do you believe that? Yeah, I do believe it. I think I might have seen it even. I just read, yeah,

one day at time. One day at time. Wow. And he's apparently recorded and well, I found it on Spotify. He's recorded for decades now all these Disney songs. So kids know him as a Disney. He like sings.

Yes. I saw this. Yes. Wow. Super fine. Yeah. Now, did you say he was Canadian?

No. No. Okay. Good. I was going to say, I don't think he is. He's not. He's American.

He's American. from Dallas. Well, Proust, well done. I didn't know any of your three. I'm so glad. Your three were all just lists of food. I know. I didn't think of hardcore on food.

Even though that went top 10, it hasn't been played since the 70s. Is it better than vegetables, beat boys? It's not on boom, okay? Is it better than Beat Boys vegetables, though? Well, vegetables I know of only because I've been fascinated by that band, but your three songs are fairly obscure for if you were just like a radio listener. Not to me.

See, this is the beauty of life. Those songs have deep meaning to me. without being It is beautiful They have deep meaning to you Even though they don't have deep lyrics Yeah no they're just list of food And songs and ice cream and shit

Yeah All right We're gonna I'm gonna cause I need to play this song By Bob Bluette So I can go to the The little noise room Do it

Okay so you ready Yeah do it Go hit it Go Hey yo man Ain't like a nice bowl of corn flakes In the morning To smooth you're out

Milkie Cereo. Maybe. Milky. Cereo. Maybe. Milky. Mirror.

Mirror. On the wall. Who's the baddest female of them all? It was frosted flicked. She loved your bowl, and although her skin was white, she had a lot of soul. Rich female, very debonair, driving her rolls. We're rollers in her hair. We was hanging out, hovering a stereo.

She took me to a club. I think the name was Cheerios. She walked like she was jumping a hurdle. I was happy as a kid that's just on mutant ninja turtles. her turtles, a guy walked over, said your earrings cute. I said I'm wearing an earring, but it ain't no fruit loop. Being frosted when you get a drink, but she ought to something bugged and I ain't know what to think. She ordered potassium, calcium, carbohydrates, scotch with sodium.

She took me to a crib, threw me on the couch, and woke up the next morning with a spoon in my mouth. She's milky, cereal, baby. Cereal, milky, cereal, baby. milky, cereal, milky, cereal, maybe, milky, cereal. This is a, Grandmaster Flash? Just a bit of an obscure one as well.

Love it. It is not Grand Master Flash. It is L.L. Cool J. And it is from, ladies love, Cool J. And it is from, yes, it is from the Mama Said Knock You Out album. It was huge album in 1992, I believe it was. And that was the song right after Mama Said Knock You Out.

funny that's it's number I think number eight was Mama said Nacchio this was number nine or vice or seven and eight and it's called Milky Serial it's basically a song where it's an entire innuendo

where they use different types of cereal to describe women different types of women and uh that's super creative too yeah it's not and he

some really kind of inappropriate stuff he goes like I may wear an earring but I ain't no fruit loop is one of the lines so at the time in 1990s fruit loop yeah well fruit loop you know at the time

that was considered... 91, 92, yeah. Remember the days when it's like if you wore an earring on one side of... Oh, yeah, if you wore right earring, you were gay. Yeah. If you were... 100%, yeah. It's literally, yeah, of course.

That's what it was. Yeah, you were he left year straight. If you wore it on your right ear only. That's right. And then at a certain point, guys started wearing earrings in both ears. Like, I wear an earring in both ears. So, anyhow. Yeah, so there you go.

That was actually... That was the fourth that came to mind for me, but the third, I couldn't figure out what... I'll get my mind blow in a second. I wanted to do, and you would appreciate this, the Last Supper from Jesus Christ Superstar, you know, like, this bread could be my body. Yeah, yeah.

That's a deep. Yeah, and it's a long one. Save it for Easter. Yeah, exactly. But so this came on, and then, I said, no, I want to ride on Mercedes. There you go. You know what?

This album was one of my favorite albums. This is actually an idea. Does this album have, I'm a jingling baby. Go ahead, baby. Yeah, yeah. It has a round the way girl and jiggling baby. And booming system, or the big the big songs from that so i actually have an idea for the next incarnation of my

podcast where i i want to take CDs or albums from certain points of my life that i loved like i knew from beginning to end like i knew ever and now listen to them again just clips and and go like what did i love about this this is cringy now you know that kind of thing it's i think i you know because i'm thinking of things like mc hammers please hammer don't hurt them color me bad yeah cmb like i when i was 14 melville i'm not i'm proud of that i listen to it just the the day, actually. It's not good, though. It's fun, though. It's fun.

So, this is 92, and then a much, you know, L.O. Cool J goes in between, like, he was cool at one point, and then he was too cheesy, and then he was that, but LL is very cheesy now, but he was absolutely one of the pioneers. Yeah, yeah, going back and, uh, yeah, uh, he's, he's all, but pre public enemy deaf champ. Yes, exactly. That's right. I'm in love.

He, uh, he goes back and forth, but he's a true pioneer. So, let's fast forward to 1995, and a band that's never not considered one of the coolest in hip-off history is Wu-Tang. The Wu-Tang Clan, Wu-Tang's for the kids. They release, go ahead. They release ice cream.

Ah, listen to this. Ray Kwan. Watch these rap is getting all up in your guts. French vanilla butter, pecan, chocolate deluxe. Even caramel, Sundays. This is like my song, Mars. Yes, ice cream.

Except for he's using it to talk very dirty about women. weren't we going to unveil the new closing theme to Toronto Mike today? Well, the show's not over yet. But, yeah, but weren't we going to play it and react to it before we play it for the close? Well, we could do that. Okay, so let Bob wrap up. This is, I find ice cream far cooler than milky cereal. So, I mean, this was a single, this has a video.

But this is inspired by it or related. This is totally inspired by milky cereal, I would think. I think so, too. So that's it. That's all. Yeah, I just want, yeah, those are my, the milky cereal is actually quite funny. So who picked food jams? I picked food jams.

There's such a wealth of material. I was a little nervous when I first laid it out, but I was like, okay, here we go. And I was surprised how quickly I thought of them. Dan Halen has a big ice cream champ. Yeah. There's a lot of big food jam. Oh, that's it. Are we done?

Did you do all three years? No, that's right. He started. I was right. Thanks to David Schultz on the Zoom. Yeah. Thanks to David Schultz for educating us on Howl and Wolf. The history of Howlin Wolf and the connection.

No killing floor, no lemon. Right. Okay, so we're going to play this now. This is a big moment in Toronto. Are we going to wrap up, or are we going to play it and then talk about it and then wrap up one? Well, I guess there's a lot. Do I all start it now while we talk about what we're going to do? Because this is all the same, right?

Like, you're the composer. You're the creator. You're the creator. No, there's another term. Orchestrator? You're the arranger. You're the arranger. Thank you.

So this first sounds the same, right? It's not exactly the same, but it's basically the same. Let me hear it. This sounds the same to me. Yeah, no, it is basically the same. I've added a little keyboard, like, half right here a little bit. Yeah. That's what I'm looking for. You speak to what would be different to why you kept it.

So this is a cover of Loest of the Lowe's Rosie and Gray from Shakespeare My Butt in 1991. And I wanted to keep this part the same. So you know what you're dealing with when you got a guest and you're like, here's my playout. Have you noticed I've been starting it earlier to talk over it and try to. I love it. So you get the whole time going to. Thank you for noticing. So this part will give you the same.

amount of time to keep talking and blah, blah, blah, blah. And the... That's Biz Marquis, the blah, blah, blah. Exactly. And the new section comes exactly where the old one was. Right. And then there's a little... You'll figure it out.

The biz versus the nuge is on, uh, check your head. I don't know any of those words you just said. I love it. That's awesome. The biz versus the news. Even though you've seen the sticker a hundred times, check your head. I see. You don't speak Beastie Boys and you're from Queens?

I love, I love Paul's. But that's it. Just Paul's Boutique. That's all I got. That's a cool album. It's my favorite album. Well, that's the critical darling. But I still love the check your head.

Oh, there's one little, listen right here. That was a little different right there. So what's different? I added a little organ, actually, right in there to, like, sort of connect the sections together a little bit more. Enough about your organ. I know. But you wouldn't have noticed that part.

But when we get to the end, you'll hear. We'll stop for that. Okay. So it's the same length of time because I'm used to it now. So thank you. and at some point in the previous version you had Easter eggs new Easter eggs is what's coming

Are any Easter eggs repeated or are they all new? Oh, I'm excited. I haven't listened. I was almost going to repeat one of them and then at the end of my journey I was like, no. Yeah, at the end of the, no, none of them. Oh, there's a new spoon's little of Easter egg in there too, though. So don't spoil it.

Okay, so I have not heard this. Just tell me when it's not coming yet. Not yet, okay. Okay, so let me thank you guys. Because you got to hear the whole verse, right? Doing this, I'm going to pick the topic for next month now. Do you, is it your turn? I don't know.

I think it's my turn. I think it may be a Bob's turn. It's actually my turn. Okay, go ahead, Bob. Well, no, do you want, do you have something in mind? Oh, I thought, why not give the people what they want,

which is festive jams? Oh, okay. Us, because we did that with the previous incarnation of toast. Yeah, we've done festive jams too, us. Have we? Yeah, we've done. The ending is coming up. Okay, let's listen.

Yeah, we have. We've done something. It's a turn anyway. No, no, no. You can think about it while we listen. Yeah, we'll come back and talk again. If we did do it, we just can't repeat. Yeah, we'll have to look back.

New festive gyms, our favorite, though, not ones that Bob just discovered. Get ready. I know what I'm doing over here. I know you do. You're being a pro. Get ready. It's all new. Are you excited?

Listen up, everybody, but we can react in real time. Yeah. Okay. This is not the ending. Subdivisions. Very good. I was hoping subdivisions are being in there. Subdivisions.

Subdivisions. Oh, yeah. Mr. Dressop. Degrazi. Oh, nice. Actually, I don't know it. So far, I love it so far. I love it.

This is for Andy. That's the same remedy, I should point out. That's it, remedy. Spoon? Black cards. No, no, it was black cards. You did a great job, Rob. Pokedat Door.

Pocodot Door, everybody. Oh, I love it. It's excited. Good job, Rob. And then you got it in. Everybody, hold on. And then it ends like normal. I'll put this in the end, the end, wait.

Did you hear that? There's a little bit of... Dun, don't. I did hear a little bit of it. So I've already loaded that version into the soundboard. Have you? That version, I played it off there, right? Yeah.

But at the end of an episode, I don't play it off here. I play it up. Yeah, yeah, you press the button. So it's already loaded up. Now I'm going to play it as we say goodbye. Are we saying goodbye now? This is it. We were over two hours. I love you guys. We're over two hours, aren't we? So who's picking the topic for December? If you want to do that,

we could do that. January is my birthday anyway, so I can pick the January one. I have one. You guys aren't going to like it. So, why don't we just say I'm now saying for December, festive. Your three favorite festive chams of December. We've got to go back and look, because I think we've done this. We've done it before for sure. Don't repeat yourself so you can't just keep

picking up the Pogues for example. It's fun to have something new. Sure. Sure. We can do that. And then for January, Bob's 50th birthday month. Bob will pick the topic. Why don't you announce it now? I want to do metal. Like heavy metal. Just metal. That's the team. Metal. Do what you want with it. I got one right at the top of my head. Metal. When I say metal fly, is that a metal? Yeah, well, but if you kicked it out before we can't, right? So, okay. So now we have topics. Metal. Do we have any sense of when in December we can record? Uh, no, but why don't you come here for TML? No, I guess that's in late November anyway.

Yeah. No, we'll have to, well, that way have to probably be another Tuesday again. Yeah, because that's easy for you. It's easiest for me, yeah. I may be doing some, some actual weekday shifts, hopefully by then. Nice. We'll see. So we'll be back in December for another episode of toast.

That's fun, boys. Thank you. Yes, this was good. I'm hungry now. November 21st, the National Slash film is premiering in, Toronto and Calgary, by the way, that I did the music for. Which venue? I don't know. You've got to look online for it. The Royal. I'm at Viff Naked's documentary premiere tomorrow.

She was just on NDAA with Lana. She's doing a lot of press for her documentary. This is my amount of press for the Nashville, even though I composed the music for it. But yeah, it's should have. She's straight edge. She can't have the lasagna or the beer. Really? Straight edge people can eat lasagna. It's just veg can't. Exactly. Yeah, but straight edge people are vegan. No, they're not. Yeah. No.

Google it. You could be straight edge and not be vegan. Just no booze, no alcohol. And no coffee. No. There's more, no promiscuous sex. What? It's more than just beer and, uh, I don't know what this is another conversation to have.

Google it quickly because I got to hit this post, this new post. The post comes in the same time. And that, and you can come in. And that brings us to the end of our 1,796 show. Well, if someone, uh, it's began with alcohol, tobacco, recreational drugs and promiscuous sex. some also do caffeine and vegan. Okay, well, Biff does that. She's vegan and no caffeine.

Yeah, straight edge. It was a punk thing. In other words, she's boring. Here comes your new endings. Go to TorontoMike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs and much love to all who made this possible. That's retro festive, Great Lakes Brewery, Palmapasta, Nicayini's Kindling, Recycle My Electronics.C.A.,

Blue Sky Agency, and Ridley Funeral Home. I love it. Who's saying subdivisions? Mark Daly. What was that? Wait a minute. Is it? That's me saying subdivisions?

It is. I didn't know that. Off of your retro Ontario chat. That's a fun fact. See you all tomorrow. You know who's in the basement tomorrow? Who? Both.

Oh, I love it. Black cars. Both Mike Stafford and Supriah de Vetti. Both sitting down here tomorrow morning. Wow. That's the one who sent the email? Live streaming? Like, or we'll talk about it.

You don't know who that is. That's the 640 morning show before Supriya, well, before Mike was fired and Supriya quit. Right. See you all tomorrow. That's a big one.