Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Forgotten Jams: Toronto Mike'd #600

Episode Date: March 19, 2020

Mike kicks out some forgotten jams with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon.

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from TorontoMike.com and joining me this week is the star and director of Jack of All Trades Stu Stone and Twitter Canada's own Cam Gordon. Mike.

Yes. Yes. Let's just get ready. Let's get real here. First of all, I got to give you props, Mike, on that opening World Wrestling Federation tag.

That was really great. I did that for you, Stu. Is this one of the songs already? Are we starting right off the bat with this song? No, this is my song because let's see if you guys are sharp. Why am I playing this CanCon classic by the Gandarvas? I haven't heard this song in ages. You probably heard it one year ago.

I was going to say, Stu, you clearly don't follow me on Twitter, you asshole. I try not to. Let's see, Cam, don't tell him. Let's just see if Stu can figure it out. Stu, what's the title of this song? It's got to have something to do with being sick or something like that. You're getting colder. They're getting nervous.

They're getting nervous. Cam, should we help him out? Yeah. He's not going to get it. Dude, this song is called First Day of Spring. Oh, is that today? Yeah, like just before midnight.

So technically today, yes. But it's a hell of a jam. Yeah, that's a good song. This is one of those bands. I always thought this was Jane's Addiction when it came out, before I knew music. Like any singer who sang in a high range, I just thought it was Jane's Addiction when it came out, before I knew music. Like any singer who sang in a high range, I just thought it was Jane's Addiction. I would say that the more profound part of the song is the lyrics,

how they're saying there's no way of knowing how long it'll last. Yeah, absolutely. It's got a double meaning today. Now, you said that with Jane's Addiction, I thought all falsetto singers were Tiny Tim. Yeah, I mean, thatetto singers were Tiny Tim. Yeah, I mean, that's up even the higher register, but different vintage. But yeah, I can see that.

How are you guys doing, man? Stu, where are you calling from today? I am calling from isolation day four. It feels like day 21 already. I'm sitting here in my condominium looking out the window at the empty streets of Toronto.

I can literally count the cars on one hand, which is a good thing because that means people are listening and staying in. So if you're listening to this show right now, presumably you are doing what you're supposed to be doing, which is

staying home and celebrating the first day of spring, the Gandharvas, and the 600th episode of the Toronto Mike experience here with Cam Gordon and myself. So I'm doing my part, man. I'm doing my part. It says here for me to pause for applause.

Thank you. Thank you. I'm just practicing for a potential political run because I'm seeing how the countries are being all run and I feel like I could do this. Oh, really? Okay. Cam, where are you right now?

Yeah, I mean, I pretty much mirror what Stu said. I'm here in my condo. And by the way, Mike, you spoke to my agent before this. I was promised a full palm of pasta and a six-pack of GLB. I don't in my condo. And by the way, Mike, you spoke to my agent before this. I was promised a full palm of pasta and a six-pack of GLB. I don't see it here. I'm going to try my best to power through this, but you're going to be

getting some calls after this. I do need to tell you, full disclosure, Mike and Kim, on day two, first of all, I went grocery shopping like everybody else did, and I bought up a bunch of crap, and then I'm in isolation

or self-quarantine or whatever you want to call it. By day two, I've eaten everything that I've bought in the room. And I open up my freezer, and what do I find? A palma pasta that I had from a long time ago. I had to sit that thing out in defrost it for like,

you know, a day. So like that gave me something to look forward to and really, uh, you know, uh, uh, helped out.

And then the next two days, the last two days, the last three meals that I've eaten have been palma pasta. Actually. Okay. So I'm, uh, I've been recording conversations with Toronto Mike partners.

So yesterday I spoke with Troy from Great Lakes Brewery and Anthony from Palma Pasta. I also spoke with Banjo Dunk and I actually had a good chat with Brad from Ridley Funeral Home. Did you ever wonder like what has changed? Like if you were to like, you know, if you were to die right now. Then I'd call Brad, then I call Brad from Ridley funeral home for sure. But typically at a funeral, it's a bunch of people gathered in a small space and lots of hugging.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Social distancing, uh, changes funerals, uh, rather dramatically.

Yeah. Bad times to go for sure. Changes everything for sure. Changes everything, for sure. Okay, so I'm talking to Anthony real quick. I'm talking to Anthony from Palma Pasta, and I have right now in my freezer four lasagnas, frozen. But, as you might know,

because you're both bunkered down calling into Toronto Mic'd for this esteemed 600th episode, I'm not having guests in person right now, which quite literally when I was talking to Anthony, I asked him, like, my family needs to eat. We're all, you know, there's a bunch of us here.

Can I start, can I go into the supply of Palma Pasta lasagna I have for guests? Anthony says I can. That's what a sweetheart he is. It's going to feed my family for weeks. That's fantastic. We are seeing a lot of, like, feel That's what a sweetheart he is. He's going to feed my family for weeks. That's fantastic. We are seeing a lot of feel-good stories coming out of this. And when we're through this,

I think there is a lot of humanity you see in a time like this. And obviously with me and my job, all I do is I sit on Twitter all day. And yeah, a lot of the stuff is tough to read and the news you see coming out. But you also do see all these, quote-unquote, triumphs of the human is tough to read in the news you see coming out but you also do see all these kind of you know quote unquote triumphs of the human spirit and people banding together supporting each other

so you know there's always glimmers of light even sort of in the darkest hours wow we're getting all like serious I was watching this documentary I've been watching like so much TV that my eyes hurt but I watched this like documentary. I've been watching so much TV that my eyes hurt. But I watched this documentary series on Netflix called The American Dream.

And it's all about Donald Trump in the 70s and the 80s and the 90s, before he was the president, right? Right. And it definitely opens up your eyes a lot once it gets to the Twitter age of how much, you know how how like myspace like launched dane cook into you know he could do no wrong like the way that he was using twitter from the beginning like it really uh i know this is like a subject that has nothing to do with this but he mentioned twitter and i was just watching this yesterday but this played such a huge role

in his popularity before he was president that maybe a lot of those followers that's kind of, it's pretty wild. It's Cam's fault. Yeah, the power of Twitter is pretty remarkable, especially in times like this when we are relying on instant news and trying to figure out what's happening right now

in the world. I think Twitter has shown that it is here to stay and it is a good thing when used for the right things, which I'm sure Cam knows all about. Yeah, well, we're the public conversation. So absolutely. I mean, yeah, now more than ever, for sure. It's like a group chat with like everyone on the planet. That's the best part of it and the worst part of it.

Now, Cam, let me hear your voice as you establish the premise for this 600th episode. Tell us, like, what kind of, what are we listening to? We're kicking out particular types of jams, but let us know. So, Mike, as you know, like a bit of a backstory. I mean, Mike, you've become really a bit of a gatekeeper for a lot of 90s CFNY nostalgia and you know you have your anecdotes about Martin Streak you've sort of become one of the de facto almost like the leading like historic historians about Martin Streak I know because your blog was kind of the source a lot of people went went to and we've all found about his untimely passing. Subsea when Stu and I come on a lot,

we talk about kind of old CFNY jams back in the day. And I don't know where this idea came from, to be honest. I know we've talked about this a few weeks ago, but what this is is going to be a countdown of, it was originally going to be 10, but now I think it's closer to 13 or 14. These are classic CFNY jams that are perhaps somewhat forgotten. So these are the kind of tracks

that might not pop up on your Spotify too much, you might not go to, but I think everyone on this call, and I would argue a lot of your listeners, will see a lot of, oh yeah, that song. And then we're going to dissect them a bit, we're going to kind of perhaps offer some commentary and prepare some fun facts.

And the fun part is Stu doesn't even know what these songs are. So this is going to be fresh for Stu, and I'm going to wow Stu here. This will be good. And, you know, ironically, the 600th episode of this show is also the pilot episode of the Oh Yeah That Song podcast. Working title. Working title.

Is there any Lawrence Gowan on this list? There better be. Guys, I am not getting into that shit again. I don't even know if we resolved standing on my own ground. That song was played on the air. We've established that.

No way was that played. Someone tweeted Alan Cross. We played Lawrence Allen all the time. That's what he said. Sometimes people misremember. I don't believe Alan Cross. You're calling Alan Cross a liar?

Is that what's happening? He's an FOTM. He's one of the great FOTMs. Now, before we proceed, I think it's Stu. Who has all the noise in the background? Are you doing dishes? Stu,

what are you doing while you talk to us? I'm eating some Parma pasta for breakfast. Alright, it's all part of the charm. I can hear the noise and it's no big deal. We're in crisis mode, you know, COVID-19 lockdown,

but let's, let's, I'm going to kick out the jam. So we've already talked about the fine sponsors. As soon as things return to a semblance of normalcy, I promise you guys more Palmapasta lasagna, and I promise you more Great Lakes beer, and I promise you more awesome sticker beer, and I promise you more awesome

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So you got to text Toronto Mike one word to 59559 and that'll engage Austin Keitner and it really helps the show. And Whiskey Jack, that concert at Zoomer Hall in April, I talked to Dunk yesterday. That's going to be shuttered, okay? So we've been talking about this thing for months. I feel bad for Dunk because we really promoted this heavily. All the FOTMs were coming out, and I don't know if it can happen due to this damn virus, but we're here for you, Banjo Dunk,

and maybe people should go and pick up his fantastic book, My Good Times of Stompin' Tom. You go to hellooutthere.ca to do that. Okay, guys, should I just jump into Jam 1 and get this rocking? Yeah, let's get into it. Is that part of the song? Yes. Shut up.

I've been down harder, baby. Correct. Correct. I'm bringing it down a bit although I could scream this up top of my lungs not very obscure to start with though I will say that to you Cam

well okay let's quantify this I didn't mean obscure I'm just like maybe under-remembered because yeah, this was a huge, huge hit

from what I recall. It's like Kirkland Moby. Yeah, it's got a Moby vibe to it. Yeah, Kirkland Moby,

I get it. I get it. Yeah, absolutely. Dude, do you remember the name of this band? Like the

some city, I don't know. I i don't know this is the primitive radio god yeah i would not remember that yeah and a very lengthy title standing outside a broken phone booth with money in my hand by the way massive hit yes yes massive hit longest title i've heard since pearl jam's elderly woman behind the Counter in a Small Town. Which I argue is a better song. Oh my God, yeah. But this is actually, I will say, if I may, I love this song.

Even when I was listening to it yesterday, I love this song. It's sort of like a Tom Diner kind of vibe too. Yeah, well, I was going to say a bit of Lou Reed Walk on the Wild Side. Sure, with a little bit of that like... I was sitting at the table.

You know why? And I like that they do that Moby thing where they take a blues guy and kind of put it in with the... I don't know what this style is, but you're right. This Suzanne Vega dance-y kind of thing and it's really it really melds nicely together inspired choice cam I'm going to stay here. There we go.

There he's back. And I was going to say, just like Moby, he probably didn't pay the guy in the sample either. Well, the guy he's sampling is actually B.B. King. Is that B.B. King? Yeah, a song called How Blue Can You Get. That's great. Gents, I i'm actually gonna reconnect with you guys because right now it's only the left speaker that's coming i don't know how this is possible but you're only coming through on the left side and i want you to come

in in stereo like you were before my come by the way my during that song which kept going uninterrupted um my uh computer went to sleep so i to make sure I touch my laptop every... Obviously, it's going to sleep, baby. It's the opposite of touching your face. You have to touch your laptop. So I'm going to actually exit with you guys. And now I'm going to rejoin them. It's got gotta be like like a dumb and dumber type of thing

very very close one of the same actors it's gotta be like it's a Jim Carrey movie correct oh me myself and Irene. I think before.

Liar, Liar? No, from the Cable guy. Oh, yeah, yeah. Great movie. I love that movie. Yeah. I gave you Cable. I buy this time, you buy next time.

Did you guys know what the follow-up single for this was? No. Tell us. Well, it was called NSFW here. It was called Motherfucker. Oh, that's not good. You've never heard of some motherfucker? Good thing you're not at work.

I know. I don't remember much music playing the Motherfucker video. I don't think it quite made it into maybe on the Wedge or City Limits. The Wedge. I love that. Simon Evans, right? Yeah, I forgot about that.

I used to watch the Wedge. It was the cool stuff. Yeah, absolutely. Did you pause? The Wedge probably wouldn't have been playing this song then. Probably not. I think not indie, not underground enough. To your point, this was a massive hit.

I think this guy probably made a lot of money from this song. Well, he did put out five more albums under the moniker of Primitive Radio Gods. Last one was something called man-made son in 2016. So there you go. Before I play the next jam, uh, can we have a little vote? I'm going to,

I'm going to suggest to you, and I think you'll agree that, uh, that is a great example of a one hit wonder. Absolutely. A hundred textbook example, right, right there.

Um, I would say that it has it checks so many boxes because it not only just because it was like one hit and we don't know another song like not because of just the literal definition of that but also just like the stickiness it has like it's own gimmick to it it has elements of other

stuff it's got all the makings of what would be a one-hit wonder of that era. I'm happy we started with that song. I also thought the little intro with the coin rolling into the jukebox or whatever,

that would be a good way to kick it off. A lot of thought went into the curation. Let's be clear. I think the opening confused Stu, though. He wasn't sure if this was the song or not. I thought maybe that we dropped like Cam Fell or something on the ground. Okay.

I hit the cough button. Future episode, if this pandemic continues, we will reconvene here via Skype. And I think we should each bring like, maybe we each bring four jams to the table that we believe to be one hit wonders. And then we could debate whether they qualify or not. Future episode.

Absolutely. Okay. Let's kick out another. And by future, you mean tomorrow on Toronto Play. Episode 601. Yeah. I mean, this is another song that is a hit.

This is not a forgotten song. I can never be your woman. When did you listen to this live? I mean, have you danced to this recently? I know that you like this song, Cam. I know that this is one of your favorite songs. Okay, Cam. Yeah, Cam.

I mean, Stu, who sings this song? I couldn't tell you. Exactly. It's the same guy. It's the same idea as the last song. Like a drum loop and like a Moby Stick and a weird vogel. Yeah, through the phone or whatever.

Like us, yeah. Yeah. He's got a type. I like it. Cam, tell us who's singing this jam. Yeah, so this is a band called Whitetown. Ah. Which is a solo project of Indian-born British musician Jyoti Misra.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Some fun British musician Jyoti Misra. Oh, wow. Yeah, some fun facts about Jyoti. Never would have known that. You may not be looking on his Wikipedia page. He was actually in a band once that he said was very inspired by pixies that opened for

Primal Scream. What do you think of that? I never would have entered my mind. No, I don't hear a lot of pixies in this jam. But yeah, I would say this is similar in spirit and also similar in vintage to the last song, kind of that electronic... But also just in the way that these songs are being put together,

I mean, it's sort of ushered in an era that you're seeing in modern music where you have kids on their laptops just putting loops together to make a song. I have a feeling there's a lot of what's going on here. There's a drum loop and a little horn loop and another little loop. There's some strings in there, yeah. and another little loop and then he put them together and now it's Yeah.

Similar to the last jam, I think we have another textbook example of one hit wonder here. Yeah. I would say that this song made a lot of money. This song made a lot of

money. Like, do you mean it showed up in like advertisements for cars and stuff? Yeah. I mean, just like it was a big hit and like

that, you know, if we know it instantly from the first second it drops, then it was a big hit. If we know it instantly from the first second it drops, then it's a big hit. I also would argue, though, that the Primitive Radio Gods jam is far bigger than this one. Oh, yeah.

No, it is. I don't know. I don't know about this. This was the number one hit in the UK and top five in countries including Australia, Canada, France, Ireland and New Zealand. Well, I'd also I happen to know someone who has known Kim for more than 25 years.

He's like this song. This is one of his personal favorite songs. Like I know for a fact this is one of his secret favorite songs. Like every time I go for a run, I start with this. Yes. What's it doing now? Hold on. I can't remember this part. This is the bridge.

This is... Yeah. For guys like us, Mike, hip-hop heads, we like this part. This is when the DJ talks over the beat to let everybody know at at the block party, what's going down. Wow.

I'm digging this. I think a new offspring of a Toronto Mike during the pandemic is that we just play jams and talk about it. I like it. You know, what song I almost put on the list right after this, but it was, they never played it on CFNY.

I don't think, was Lucas. Lucas with the lid off. Yeah, yeah. Catch the vibe, catch the vibe. That would qualify as sort of like another iteration of this type of formula. I feel like Lucas with the lid off was the connective tissue between White Town and us three, Cantaloupe. Yes, yes, yes.

Hey, shout out to FOTM, Lucas Iannetta, who also, I think, interns on... What's-his-face's show? Darren Jones' show on Kiss 9255. Whenever Lucas would come to a TMLX, I would call him Lucas with the lid off. Perfect. Now, Jens, are you ready for the third jam?

Well, like Lucas with the lid off is like basically, oh, I'm here and I took my hat off? Yeah. Lucas took his hat off. So it's like, oh, now the party's ready to go because Lucas took his hat off. He's arrived, his hat,

he can see his head. Catch the vibe, catch the vibe. Oh, it's Lucas with the lid off. Yeah, you're right. The US3 or whatever they're called,

with the can lube, lube to whatever. Very similar. Also, Scatman John. Scatman John. Scatman can do it, so can you.

I would say that Scat Man is more like a Soundgarden kind of memory to me. By the way, Scat Man John, did you guys think it was the Micro Machine guy? Oh, the fast talker? Yeah. He was on an episode of Saved by the Bell. Do you guys

remember when he was a substitute episode of Saved by the Bell do you guys remember when he was like a substitute teacher he's also he's also in like so many things he was also the Goodyear Tires guy yeah

he had a hell of a career great run I don't know if he's still with us or not but let's kick out this jam because there's so many

I realize here we gotta go actually it'd be funny if Eulogy was like blah, blah, blah. I mean, this is a band that has it. You know, the band is in it. I want to say

this is the president of the United States, but maybe not. Oh, you're right. First correct ID. Well, these guys are not a one-hit wonder. They had several... Yeah, but this episode is not... This is not our one-hit wonder episode. No.

This would have been like their third single. I think Lump is the first big one. And Peaches would be the second one. Right. And they did a great cover. Was it Video Kill the Radio Star? Is that their cover? That's right.

I always liked these guys, but they were sort of like spin doctors in that they kind of had a few big hits and disappeared. I swear to God I was about to say spin doctors. Like, this has such a spin doctors vibe to it. Or even Black Crows kind of shows up and they're you know hard to handle and they have a couple of big hits and then they're kind of they just disappear from my uh the zeitgeist well that's because they also disappeared but

but but presidents of the united states has i remember they like started a super group with Sir Mix-a-Lot at some point. Really? Yeah, that's right. I remember that. I don't. Strangely. I will just,

I'm sure Cam can tell us all about it. Yeah, well, one comment about the album, their first album, if you guys used to spend a lot of time in like used CD stores

or like Vortex, this album was like a classic you could find pretty much anywhere in the city in multiple copies for like five, six dollars. Like a delete bin classic for sure.

Is it called Kitty that song? Yeah, this is Kitty. Meow. My daughter Morgan would love this this She loves kitty cats It seems like they're very These guys are very much into singing like innuendo Songs that are like

About sexual things But we're gonna be you know Interesting yeah well like peaches Predated by like 20 years Using the peach emoji To represent someone's rear end Or texting culture it took us. I'm going to say something controversial, Cam.

I don't think CFNY played this jam. Oh, fuck. Yes, he did. Oh, I've been wrong before. I remember it specifically coming on the Club 102 night. Okay, yeah. Maybe they've got some of that midnight to 5 a.m. rotation. Marty Streak live from...

Strong language. From Girlington. Streak live from... From Girlington. Three-man band, by the way. It's a three-man act. I just, I was thinking... Like Nirvana, Rush, Presidents of the United States.

They're right up there. On the Mount Rushmore of trios. Okay. And Green Day, of course. Right? Alkaline trio. Alkaline Trio. Alkaline Trio. Now, okay. When I think of Presidents

of the United States of America, I think of that first song I heard from them that was everywhere was Lump. And then I think Weird Al did a great Lump parody, right? Was it Gump? Forrest Gump? Yeah. I think that's weird because you're doing... He also did a parody of Pretty Fly for a White Guy. How do you do a parody of a song that's weird because you're doing he also did like a parody of Pretty Fly for a White Guy

like how do you do a parody of a song that's already kind of a novelty song like I always struggled with that artistically yeah right it is kind of it's like a novelty song already Pretty Fly for a Rabbi that was a song right yeah I gotta tell you

that I have Peaches and Lump are both on my, I have both of those songs downloaded in my collection of Apple Music tunes that's downloaded to my phone. So just full disclosure. I'm glad you disclosed that. I don't have this one. I'm fully expecting Toadies or Silverchair to show up any minute now.

Let's see where Cam's going to go. Toadies or Silverchair to show up any minute now. Let's see where Cam's going to go. Okay. This is a good one. I got a girl. I love her. I got a girl. She smells so sweetly.

I got a girl. She loves her dog. I got a girl. I love her dog. I got a girl. She stares in the mirror. I got a girl I love her Oh, this is Tripping Daisy. Oh, Tripping Daisy. I got a girl who's blinking on her brain Here's a question for you, Stu.

Were you at... Yeah. Did you come with us when we saw Tripping Daisy? Of course. And they were opening for Our Lady Peace at the Warehouse. One of, I don't know about you, Stu, one of my first concerts. You definitely moshed to this song. at the warehouse. One of, one of, I don't know about you, Stu, one of my first concerts. Um,

he definitely moshed to this song, had a great time. Uh, there's actually another band that played before them that, who knows,

we might be hearing in a couple of minutes. The Killjoys? Who knows? Spoiler alert. Okay. Tripping Daisy, I Got a Girl.

My brother Ryan had this CD and I borrowed it often, but I only ever listened to the one song. I absolutely loved this single. It's got a very memorable video, sort of like a medical clinic on a ride, almost like the movie Saw. If you remember, they were all on sort of gurneys and some nurse was

doing very... Oh, that sounds like Blink-182. Yeah. Because Blink-182 had the porn star nurse. Yeah, it was sort of in the same space. I mean, this really just sort of

opens your eyes to how beautiful an era this was that there are so many like you'll never will we ever see another era where there's so many rock one hit wonder kind of song no during this break a quick

aside is that I've been thinking a lot about like my teenagers and how they consume music versus how I consume music. And I'm convinced the great difference is we would hear different genres together. So if we wanted to hear this jam, it might be beside. Like if you listen to CFTR, for example, you're going to hear the Def Leppard,

and then you're going to hear the U2, and then you're going to hear Sir Mix-A-Lot. It was all kind of jumbled up. And then New Kids on the Block. So you were forced to hear other genres and stuff you would never normally seek out. And sometimes you ended up liking some of that and diving deep into that world or whatever. Where today, my teenage son, who's 18, he literally only hears hip-hop. That's it.

He doesn't hear anything else because it's all so narrow-casted to him. Yeah, well, that's the thing. Now we have a choice to listen to whatever we want, whenever we want. Back then, whatever the DJ played, that's what we listened to. Right, whatever much music played or whatever the radio station played. But that forced things. You were exposed to stuff you might not necessarily seek out on your own. Like Tripping Daisy.

Yeah, I feel like when top 40 radio shifted, you might not necessarily seek out on your own? Like Tripping Daisy. Yeah, I feel like when sort of top 40 radio shifted and I feel like it was like when Backstreet Boys came and they stopped playing just sort of rock bands. Like I remember you would hear Air Clapped in Tears in Heaven, you know, the acoustic version, and then you would hear like that song, like Come Baby Come Baby Baby Come Come. Right., come, baby, baby, come, come.

Right. Right after. K7. K7, yeah, and that would not be unusual to have those in the mix together. I would say that, like, I would give 100% of the credit to, and I'm not giving 99%,

I'm giving 100% of the credit to Nirvana for breaking through the pop sort of bubblegum sound when they'd launched. And that sort of ushered in this whole era. But then, you know, as you said, once Backstreet Boys and all these sort of pop songs sort of changed the game, in order for a rock song even to be heard by anybody,

it had to be so unique. I think of System of a Down Chop Suey as a song that all of a sudden a rock song was back in the forefront. I love that jam too. In order for a rock song to penetrate the masses, it needed to have some sort of

je ne sais quoi, something different. Wait, I would totally disagree with that actually because that was also the time Nickelback was sort of on the rise. And say what you will about Nickelback, but I mean, they're pretty... No, no, of course, man. They're a meat and potatoes rock band. I mean, kind of no thrill. They have a lot of hits, for sure. But, you know, I'm saying Nickelback, sure, fine.

Let's take this off, man. Let's take this off. I've had it up to here. Listening to a small segment of people trying to put down America. America is the greatest land on earth, and we ought to be proud of what we have. I'm proud of America. I'm proud of our people, and I'm going to prove it. We're American and damn proud of it. Frankly, I'm getting a little ticked off.

Go to hell. It's hard to drive that new Porsche with a big pain in your gut, isn't it? Not a bit. Anything, Stu? Do you know this one? Did you ever dance to this? I'm waiting for the chorus. Okay, let's give Stu the chorus. I'm assuming this is another verse and not the chorus. I don't think it has to be.

Now, Stu, just so you know, this is a song I'm listening to now, and it's my style, like I would have dug it, but I actually have zero, Cam, this is the truth, I swear to you, I have no memory of this song. I have no memory of this song either. I have no fucking idea what this song is. Okay, tell us what it is, Cam. A couple things, yeah. So this band actually interestingly shares a name

with a manager of sorts from the World Wrestling Federation of the State, Jira. Glick? Dink. Wait, the band is called Dink? Yeah. As in the manager? Was he a manager?

Yeah, more of a friend. More of a companion So this is Dink, what's the name of the song? Yeah, the band is Dink The song is called Green Mind Not to be confused with the Dinosaur Jr. album Green Mind This came out in around 1994 Again, another big Club 102 classic

That you would hear when Martin Streak and DJ Dhingra and Strombo were behind the decks there. Famously featured in the movie Double Dragon. I remember that. It sounds a bit like acid test.

It also has a David Draymond sort of flow to it. I don't even know who it was The lead singer of Disturbed Okay yeah yeah Down with the sickness That would be perfect for the pandemic Yeah yeah I could see that

Well this band toured with Cam FEM and Popolita So kind of those second year Industrial type bands I don't remember Industrial yeah yeah That was a whole genre too those second tier industrial type bands. I don't remember. Industrial. Yeah, yeah. That was a whole genre too. Industrial rock.

This would be industrial pop. Oh, like Nine Inch Nails, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't remember this song, but I could hear it in the mix late at night. I could imagine hearing it next to Scooby Snacks. Yeah, that's a good song. I love that song.

Remember the orb, Fluffy White Clouds or whatever? Yeah, Little Fluffy Clouds. Little Fluffy Clouds. I still like that song. How about the eels, Nova King for the soul? Another good one? Right. Jesus Built My Hot Rod is the classic, I guess.

I would say that I'm just now at this moment in time kind of putting together that industrial music is sort of like drum loop with guitars over them. Yeah. Yeah. The light bulb just went off. I see it now.

But yeah, I would have dug this. I just don't remember it, that song. Yeah. Do you know that orb it, that song. Yeah. Do you know that orb song, Little Fluffy Clouds, who that woman's voice is, who that is talking? Okay, I'm going to close my eyes and listen to the voice in my head. Hold on. Kim Gordon.

I believe it's Ricky Lee Jones. Not to be confused with Emmylou Harris. Or Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy Lee Jones. Is there a Tommy Lee Jones? Did I invent the Lee part? I can't remember what his name is.

No, you think his name is just like Tommy Jones? Tom Jones. It's not unusual to be loved by you. That's probably why he had to call himself Tommy B. Jones, by the way. Well, before we pressed record, we talked about Albert Brooks. Why did he have to change his name? Because his last name was similar to your birth name. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Einstein. I feel like Cam has like an industrial sort of like something coming out of the closet. Is this the same song or is this a new song? New song. No, new song, new band. This is definitely like the same DJ that played the last song. It's like ministry-esque. Or it's like anthrax.

Yeah, so I'll go into this. Al Jorgensen, I think I hear Al. Go ahead. Sorry. The name of this band is Consolidated. Yeah, it's an American industrial metal band out of, I think, Oakland. The name of that song is Butyric Acid. Now, have you guys ever heard the podcast Reply All?

I know of it, yes. They had a great episode recently, not to promote another podcast. Well, then why aren't you doing it? It relates to a song, so shut the fuck up. They had a recent episode called the case of the missing hit. I strongly recommend, but I think this song was sort of the inspiration for something in that episode, and it's a good listen and a good companion piece to Toronto Mike's band. But anyway, this band, I think, was sort of more Toronto Mike's band. But anyway, this band I think was sort of

more an experimental industrial band. Allegedly influenced by the band Negative Land. You guys heard Negative Land? Had a song called U2. Doesn't ring a bell to me. They were kind of almost like that band Mars. Did Pump Up the Volume.

Almost like a project. Of course. Yes, of course. Love that song. Yeah, Pump Up the Volume. Yeah. Or like that song of Vietnam.

No, no, no, no. 19. 19. Remember that one? Dude, I had a guest on recently. I think Sam Grosso who ran like

a bunch of bars and stuff that played live music in this city, including the Cadillac Lounge and the Kensington Market or whatever, the Kensington's or whatever. Bottom line is, he had a whole Paul Hardwick story. That's Paul, I think, who did 19.

Paul Hardwick? Hardcastle. A hard guy. I don't know. Hey, this song reminds me of, remember Green Jello? Yes, that's pretty low pig, sure. Good video.

I want to point out something that I see the first couple of songs in Cam's playlist have sort of gone together and the last couple of songs sort of go together but throwing back to the first couple of songs, we were just talking about these sort of gone together and the last couple songs sort of go together. But like, throwing back to the first couple of songs, we were just talking about like these sort of types of songs, but remember the song One Night in Bangkok

Murray Head? It's a chess song. It's from a Broadway musical about chess. One Night in Bangkok? Yeah, it's all about chess. Okay, well, either way, that style would have fit in with the first two songs that Cam did did Was that like Through the phone singing

And then to a bigger chorus One night Oriental City But the city don't know But that guy Murray Head He's a Broadway guy Like you heard him on

In Jesus Christ Superstar For example Oh really Yeah And I remember When that song was a big hit On Top 40 Radio When I was a kid

And I learned It was about chess And it blew my mind At first Then I had to like Listen to it again Like this song's about chess But yeah I feel a kid and I learned it was about chess and it blew my mind at first and I had to listen to it again. Like, this song's about chess? I feel like me and Cam, I feel like Cam and I were both in the chess club in high school.

Yeah, probably for years. It's interesting because I know one of your favorite movies is One Night in China. Well, I was going to say Search for Bobby Fisher but alright anyway coming to the ring area sounds like a wrestling being done a member of this band is an FOTM.

Ooh. That sounds like a porno for Pyro, but it's not. Yeah, this is Blue Leg, Toronto's own Blue Leg, and the song for Frolic Jones is I Didn't Hear Anything You Said. Okay, I'll bring it down. Sorry, I was really, I like this one. I didn't know the last twoic Doses. I didn't hear anything you said. Okay, I'll bring it down. Sorry, I was really,

I like this one. I didn't know the last two songs at all. That is, I didn't remember them, but I remember this song. I don't think any of your listeners do. Okay, Cam, talk to us about Glue Legs, Heroic Doses. Yeah, so I mean, first of all,

anyone who listened to CFNY in the mid-90s heard a lot of glue legs. Like this song and a couple of other jams by the fans were in heavy rotation. I think they were three-piece too, and I definitely saw the fan open for everyone. The aforementioned Our Lady Peace Tripping Daisy show, they were there. Our Lady Peace also played at Mel Lawson Square on New Year's Eve. I remember glue legs open for that. They were kind. Our Lady Peace also played at Mel Lawson Square on New Year's Eve. I remember Glue Lake opened for that. They were kind of ubiquitous.

They had a saxophone player, which made them kind of stand out at that time. Who's the FOTM, Mike? Well, I was going to see if either of you can get it, but an FOTM was a member of Glue Lake. Kathleen Wynn. Hi, she's, yeah,

I guess she, she's not, I had to, by the way, real quick, I like to do a little aside during the songs here, but as I'm canceling guests, I'm getting,

that's what's depressing me because I was, I really look forward to the in-person, like this is great, but this would be 10 times better if you guys were here in the room with me and we were having a drink and I could see your facial reactions and you would sound as good as I do here. So I really miss that.

And then one by one, like, for example, it's kind of funny. I just pushed off Gord Johnson from Big Sugar. I just postponed that visit. And I just postponed George. I thought you were going to say

Gord Martineau. He's already been on. I thought you were going to say I thought you were going to say Gord Martino. He's already been on. I've done the Gord Martino episode. You should listen to that. It's great. Yeah, he's amazing. George Smitherman. I just yesterday told George he's going to have to delay his visit. Oh, wow. So speaking of Kathleen Wynne,

I thought of George Smitherman. But okay. Yeah, yeah. The FOTM who is in Glulag is none other than BFF of George Strombolopoulos. You want to guess now? Todd Shapiro. Why do you put them together?

I don't even think they're buddies. I don't know. Mako Jr. Really? Yeah. I did not know that. Bob Makowitz Jr. And I bet you Stu doesn't know who the hell that is.

Sounds Jewish though when you say his full name. Bob Makowitz? Is Makowitz... I don't know anything about these origins of last names. Is Makowitz a Jewish name? Makowitz sounds like I would have been invited to the Makaowitz Bar Mitzvah. Did you know Al Pacino's Jewish? I did not. I've been

watching a bit of Hunters on Amazon. Oh, well did you just play one on that show? Yeah, I was doing a joke. Ah, okay. Remember jokes? We have to laugh our way through this pandemic together, okay? Fair, fair. But to be fair, that joke was sick.

Sick in the good way or sick in the COVID-19 way? Here's a new song. We're going to bring it down a few notches, guys. It's a big, big goodbye to her. Yeah, serial bye. Another Toronto band. I don't know what happened to me I don't know I don't wanna think about it Were you just singing or was that back?

No, that's me. But I tried to move away from the microphone so I didn't overwhelm you. What year is this released, Kim? This is from 1997, The Wild Strawberries with I Don't Wanna Think About It, featuring a guitar player, someone you may have heard of,

Sarah McLachlan. It's got a Sarah vibe to it. Yeah, well, this band was actually a husband and wife duo, and I remember this at the time, they were both doctors. Yeah, they're at U of T. Like, I was at U of T at the time duo and i remember this at the time they were both doctors yeah they're at u of t like i was at u of t at the time and i remember the whole the husband and wife from u of t or something and then they were suddenly on those like uh uh what are the cassettes that's free at last like uh the compilation stuff you get from cf and y that's right yeah no they

were uh and i feel like they were pretty crossover. Like, they were probably on Mix 99.9, sort of had that more edgy adult alternative vibe for people who were into Paula Cole and John Holden. Oh, yes, right. Fun fact, are they still married? Yeah, yeah, they're still married, still play occasionally.

Their last album, something called Vesper, came out in 2017. Are they still in Toronto? That I don't know. Because I'm totally going to get them on Toronto Mic if they're in Toronto. Yeah, I always used to get this band mixed up with Universal Honey. Do you remember that band? Is that the band that spun off of Pursuit of Happiness? Correct.

I remember them very well. Very well. Yeah. No, this band was cool. I remember this video. It's almost a very sensual song. Certainly more than Dink, Green Mine, or Consolidated, Buterica. This could be like Cranberries or something.

If you told me this was like the early Cranberry stuff. It's funny. Your other songs are like Zombie and this one's like Dreams or whatever. Well, I'll be honest. This one was the hardest to sequence. I almost put it right after White Town. Because, I mean, it's definitely a different sound compared to everything else on the list. But this is a great song.

I love this song. I think it holds up. It's a great song. And you this song. I think it holds up. It's a great song. And you're right, this one's overlooked. I don't remember the last time I heard it or talked about it, but hearing it now and remembering it, it's a wonderful song. And it's funny you mentioned Sarah's doing some guitar work on this because the vocals are Sarah-esque.

Absolutely. And not surprisingly, the Wild Strawberries ended up on a very early iteration of the Lillith Fair. With Sean Colvin. With Sean Colvin. And who was the other one you mentioned? All those. Paula Cole.

Right. Tori Amos. Chantel Kravacek was probably out there. And Dana Manning. All the greats. Absolutely. Is Jewel on that bill? Did we get Jewel on there?

Yeah, I think Jewel was there. Meredith. Ani DiFranco. Oh, yeah. I don't know if Ani ever got in there, because she was pretty anti-corporate. I'm not sure she was playing the big... Well, Tori Amos, that was her festival, right? No, it's Sarah McLachlan's.

Oh, okay. She was on there. Probably. Probably. What about Melissa Etheridge? She's on there, right? Indigo Girl. Baruch Assault.

Volcano Girl. Yeah, of course. What's her name? Fucks Like a Volcano. Letters from Cleo. Betraying DJ Fardzee's cousin. Guys, I mentioned to get to this next jam because I had this CD from this band

and there's a long running joke I'll just share this before we play it and let Stu guess but often we talk about the band Head H-H-E-A-D the CanCon legend as you know because Head went to your high school I don't remember you can tell me in a minute but

the extra H in Head was stolen by this band. No, stolen from this band. So let's listen in. That's right. Let's listen to some of this. Where is this jam? Here it comes. Is this part of the song?

Is this part of the song? Ladies and gentlemen, come into the ring area. For when I lie, line up today, train up tomorrow. I've traveled every single day, do me wrong. Wow, this's really familiar. Yeah. Woo! There's a heavy blues vibe here.

For a moment here, though, if you could see me, which you can't, I totally forgot we were living in a dystopian state. Like, I was just banging my head like everything was normal. Okay. Yeah. Let's see. Can you name the band that lost their H to head? I cannot name the band.

Because that's a hell of a clue. All right, tell us. Local H? Yeah. This is Rhymes with Orange and the rhyme spelled R-Y-M-E-S. That's some clever shit right there, Mike. Yeah. That's a CanCon Toronto Mike special.

Yeah, plus obviously nothing rhymes with orange so it's a real mind fuck several ways and the name of the song is toy train and this is the lead single on this cd i remember but because the jam i kept going to who wants to guess the song on this album i kept going to they had some other hits that was like a female's name like julia or no it's a guy's name there's a name in the title but they had other hits that was like a female's name, like Julia or... No, it's a guy's name. There's a name in the title, but they had a song that was bigger than this. Oh, Marvin.

No, you're getting closer. It's a common name. It starts with D. David. Yeah, The Taking of David. The Taking of David, that's right. How did that song go? I'm going to YouTube. Hold on, song go? I'm going to YouTube.

Hold on, hold on. I'm going to YouTube now. Everything's loaded in the soundboard, but you're taking me off script here. Let's hear The Taking of David. I don't know how this audio quality will be. Taking of David Nadler. I don't know, man.

The last few songs have been a little bit underwhelming for me. Well, we're in the CanCon section. Oh, wait. This is a terrible... Hold on. We have to get better than this. Hold on. This is somebody recording off the TV or something. Standby.

This is the worst version ever. Here. Rhymes. This is the worst version ever. Here. Rhymes. Is that the... Who was it that I said sang the Sopranos song that I was incorrect about? Is that the Leonard Cohen version? That's right.

That's right. That was the Sopranos theme song. Yes. Okay, here we go. This is the one I always preferred by Rhymes of Orange. And they had like a demonic kid on the cover, as I recall. That's a much better vocal than the last song.

Give it a moment before I bring her down. Get to the chorus here. It's like a blind melody kind of. Yeah, a bit. A bit, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a bit, yeah. Yeah, I know this one. Yeah, this was a bigger hit than the Toy Train,

but Toy Train was the first track on this album. This song doesn't sound familiar at all. No, no, I'm done. It was a big, much music hit. Was it? Okay. Here it comes, here it comes. Black girl, she's got the angels. So there you go. That's like their train song.

Yeah, that is very Black Crow. She talks to angels. Yeah, or tell me, does the wind keep me off your feet? You're right. You're fucking right. Didn't Aaron Davis have some friendship with the lead singer of Train? And the first song was called Toy Train. Think about it.

That's unbelievable. There's something deeper at work here. Maybe it's the same band. They just created a CanCon shell. I feel like when Widemouth Mason showed up, perhaps they took Rhymes with Orange Place. I feel like it's a similar vibe.

I thought you were going to say Econoline Crush. Yeah, there's that too. I mean, my God, all the greats from the... This is the last CanCon channel. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Thank you, fucking God.

I love CanCon. I do too, obviously, thank, thank the fucking God. I love CanCon. I do too, obviously. We open with Gandarvas, man. That Gandarva song, that's, that's probably the best song

we've heard all day. I chose that one. The rest are all Cans. Hopefully, uh, let's do this. I can't breathe and I can't see straight. My hands are quiet Hopefully, uh... Let's do this. This is like, uh... Got some practical hip kind of vibe to it.

Well, hold on here, boss. Like the breeders or something yeah like very bass heavy this song i like it though i think you're redeeming yourself here this is the barstool prophet who i always thought were from ottawa but are actually from cornwall ontario is there a difference? That's what I want to know. Yeah. What year would this have come out? This was probably like 96, 97.

A bit of a later vintage. This band used to be called the Wallflowers, if you can believe it. This is the Wallflowers? No, they used to be called the Wallflowers. It's unrelated to Jacob Dillon's outfit. And at some point changed their name to The Barstool Prophets, which I think is not a bad name for what this band is.

When you said wallflowers, my brain was thinking CanCon. It actually heard. I don't know how this happened. The Waltons. Okay. Yeah, well, that's a good thing. That explains my excitement because I love the wolf lick my tractor

well the thing is that in the Waltons they all say goodnight to each other only in the rain right the naked rain was the big one yeah am I mistaken or is that like the end of the Waltons episode? It's like, goodnight, man.

Goodnight, man. Goodnight, man. Okay, hold on here. Hold on. Okay, so you're talking about the TV show. All I know is when George H.W. Bush said he wished America families were less like the Simpsons and more like the Waltons. But am I mistaken that that's how the ends would always be?

Like, goodnightnight I think so goodnight dad I didn't see a lot of Waltons what do you say Cam I didn't watch a lot of Waltons I never watched

the Waltons I have no fucking clue you definitely heard like five songs you were too busy listening to this music

do you remember the cartoon do you remember wait till your father gets home do you guys remember that cartoon of course that's one of the best.

Are you kidding me? Wait Till Your Father Gets Home. Wait Till Your Father Gets Home. I felt like that cartoon was a little too sophisticated for kids, but for some reason I was just glued to it. This song now reminds me of Cartoon 2.

Am I imagining that? You are. What was that? I don't know, but I know that Wait Till Your Father Gets Home is like Tom Bosley. Yeah, from Happy Days. The guy from Happy Days is the dad on Wait Till Your Father Gets Home. Wow. This song started to remind me of The Odds, Heterosexual Male. Yeah.

Yeah, very much so. It's a good song, I know. sexual male. Yes, very much so. This was a big one. I hate this song. It's a hateable catchy ditty. It's like, no, when these kids were, like, jamming this song in their garage, they, like, knew that this was the one, right? Yeah.

This is... This is, like, the magical moment in the studio. This is, like, that thing you do. Everybody knows, okay. Let the world swoon to the people So I got a Green Day vibe to it also. And a Tripping Daisy vibe. I feel like this could break into I Got a Girl. It could have been sequenced with Tripping Daisy.

Or lit. What's the name of this band again? This is The Refreshman. The Refreshman. The Refreshments. I feel like this song is not a lot of... This is not a Canadian song, is it? No, no. I was going to say,

because this song is like, in movies and commercials, this is a big song. Yeah, this is a very monetizable song. And Stu, you probably don't recall, but Eden Music Fest that you and I attended back in the day, I believe this was the first band to play.

It had to have been because I have this memory that's coming out of the clouds of jamming up to this song live one time. Yeah, I feel like they were not only the first band but they opened with this song. It was like, they played this and then everyone just went to the beer tent or something. That's right.

I was thinking, the bands that this reminds me of are those bands that kind of were copying Blink-182 like Lit Lit of course yeah the All-American Reject yeah but this song

was before that this seems like it's like between Green Day and Blink-182 this seems between Green Day and Blink-182 I think this is a bridge

kind of song someone's got to go to Wiki and find out I'm not too sure about that yeah I think it's 96 like we were definitely in high school when this was a, I think it's 1996. Like, we were definitely in high school when this was a hit.

And then it's got, like, sort of like this, like, collective soul guitar solo. Oh, yeah, like Shine. Yeah. Right, collective soul, man. They had a moment. I feel like we could have

an episode of, like, Kirkland things that are, like, not quite the thing. I like the Costco reference. Because this is definitely a collective solo guitar solo. Wow. Oh, baby, let your light shine down.

This song has several different personalities. Every section is sort of like a different kind of like you know what I'm saying a little green day a little touch of soul they laid out this song like a Billy Joel oh yeah like scenes from an Italian restaurant

or something it goes to several different places Jesus of Suburbia it's like five I think it sounds a bit like The Replacements too which is very confusing because the name is very similar The Replacements are just a much better band

but yeah The Refreshments I don't think if you go to a hundred music fans half of them are going to remember this song but maybe one of them are going to remember this song, but like maybe one of them will know who sings this song. Yeah.

The replacements, the band, like the Weezer spin off band? No, that's the, the Rentals. Yeah, the Rentals.

Yeah, a lot of our bands. If you're down with P, then you're down with me. That was the Rentals. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, here's a big,

speaking of one hit wonder is a great example coming up and it holds up. I'm going to warn you right now, guys. I might be singing again. You ready? Big out front. Hey What's the point of this? So this is no longer Canadian music, right? Yeah, there was never a Canadian rule to this.

Yeah, Mike said it's 30% Amazon. Maybe we could hum along. I think you're smart, you sweet thing. Tell me your name. I'm dying here I Got you where I want you What movie is this from?

Can I guess? Disturbed? It feels like one of those One of those like Emo moody Things that came out Like Disturbed or something Like something with Katie Holmes

Or something like that Yeah Katie Holmes was in the Video for this Oh really Yeah Man Katie from Johnson's Creek Well that I was gonna say From the movie Disturbing Behavior Okay we were so close So close Really? Yeah. Man. Katie from Dawson's Creek.

Well, that I was going to say. The movie Disturbing Behavior. Okay, you were so close, so close. Which I auditioned for. I auditioned for

that movie. Get out of here. I swear to God. I auditioned for Disturbing Behavior, guys. Did not get the part. It was a good

soundtrack. I remember that being a good soundtrack. I remember it being a hot script, but I don't remember it being a huge box office movie,

but I remember when that project was going around, everyone wanted to be in that movie. And you know who was in that movie? Terry David Mulligan. Wow. He played Nathan Clark, which was the father of James Marsden. That's not the part I would have auditioned

for. Probably not. There was probably some nerdy computer glasses guy. I would have auditioned for. Probably not. There was probably some like nerdy, like computer glasses guy. It was somebody who would have like, I would have paid the bill for. No, Stu's been typecast as the best friend. Yes. Or like the best friend of the best friend,

like the third wheel. Eek. Too bad you couldn't get that. It was a really good best friend role in, what's the movie that was, the Jojo Rabbit. Rabbit oh that was the best that was a good role like I feel like

that could have been you that kid's amazing though come on yeah but you could have done that maybe I could have like now I'm not talking about then

now I mean dude you know they must have filmed this in Vancouver like BC or something like there seems to be a lot of Canadian talent low down on the IMDb page. Is there a lot of X-Files cast members showing up? Well, there's Jay Brezeau, who was in Cold Squad.

Wow. Yeah, definitely a Vancouver production. Someone named AJ Buckley. AJ Buckley Is actually like I know that I know A.J. Buckley Oh he made The cough syrup

Or whatever It tastes terrible But it does work Hey we went full circle Only because The Dawson's Creek Theme song Is performed

By an artist We got at Lilith Fair With Sarah Yeah All of all Yeah Of course

Katie Lang She's been at Lillifare I feel like she's too famous almost Jan Arden would be on it if it was like a Canadian thing. Yeah, she might have been in there I wouldn't be surprised Alanis Morissette was probably too mainstream

but now I feel like she's a headliner if they brought that back yeah for sure for sure for sure I'm just wondering do I go in now

we change up a bit in my opinion that these next two jams are a little different here but let's kick out this next one Firestarter I'm a fire starter!

Crumbin' bass, great rock! Help the game go! Wow! Is that David Bowie? Yes. Yeah, David Bowie, Little Wonder, from the album Brooklyn. It's not Firestarter. This is like the Trent Reznor album?

Yeah. Right. What do you guys think? Is this a good song? I'm still not sure. No, I don't think so. Well, I think it's got definitely... The fact that you've got David Bowie singing it, that helps. Like if you stripped it of the drums and reproduced it, you could probably make some Beatles-esque kind of like...

If you got the guy from ELO to reproduce it, it might be a great epic song. I would say it sounds very much of the era. Well, it just goes to show you that David Bowie's, like, keeping up with the times, or so he thinks that's where it's going next, obviously. And, you know, it's him sort of keeping ahead of everybody. Or, you know, staying in the mix. But this also sounds like Beneath David Bowie In a kind of way

Which is weird to say Yeah Like he's almost like He's like pandering Wait what's happening here? I wanted to see how long It would take you to notice How did that happen?

A magic Listen I just wanted to see If you guys would notice If I changed the song In the middle of it How did that happen? Oh. If you can kind of think about those songs in tandem, you can kind of hear it. There's a song called Amen Brother, which is a famous breakbeat that you hear in a lot of hip-hop over the years. Yeah, the Amen Break. Yeah. Do you guys remember the cover of Boys in the Hood by the white band? I'll Google it in a minute.

Yeah, the boys in the hood are talking trash. Start talking trash and you steal your car. I went to see Weezer at the Phoenix and that band opened. That's like Weedist or something? No, that's Teenage Derby. Although I also like Teenage Derby.

But Boys in the Hood cover Dynamite Hack is the name of that band. Yeah I sort of remember that name. It was it was actually a popular song. This is Prodigy right and I'm not saying they maybe they both sampled in the same place but this is definitely Prodigy. Again you guys, you're right. It's a common loop. Yeah. I know, like, Salt-N-Pepa used to

punch a few times. Let Your Backbone Slide probably uses it. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. Good call, boys. Let Your Backbone Slide. It's just sped up to, like, a million. You listen to every word I say. Every verb you hurt, I place not the bird of prey.

You try to come up. Okay, Stu, you pick it up. You're a better rapper than me. I just want to say that don't forget who put that song on the Class of 80s jams when we were going back and forth then. That's me that brought that to the table. Dude, I'm staring. I wish you were here.

I'm staring at the 12-inch single signed by Maestro Fresh West right now. LTD's in the background. I don't see any... LTD knows. Yeah, this ain't a game. I'm on a mission. Yeah, he knows. Call me a hip-hop tic-tac-tician.

While we let... Yeah yeah go ahead I mean this feels like it's going to be a 12 minute song 6 minutes but while we let David Bowie wrap up

this is the same David Bowie song so here's what I did in the middle of David Bowie I brought down David Bowie and brought in

Prodigy to see how long it would take you to notice and it took a long time and then I I killed Prodigie. I brought down David Bowie and brought in Prodigy to see how long it would take you to notice, and it took a long time. And then I killed Prodigy and I brought back David Bowie. They were still in the song, yeah. It sounds like the chorus is like a mashup of

Prodigy and Bush or Bush X. Glycerin! Yeah. I love Bush X, man. That was 16 Stone was that. I love that album. Now, quick update

while we bring down David Bowie. Can you tell us, Stu, if like now that everybody's at home, of course, walks are having a moment, as Cam would say, and podcasts are having a moment because people need entertainment. But of course,

Netflix and streaming services like that are having a moment. There must be an uptick in people watching your wonderful Jack of All Trades documentary. I would think that you're probably right. I don't know. I mean, people aren't directly telling me, but I definitely, you know, I would imagine that eventually everyone's going to land on, you're going to run out of stuff. I'm watching three movies a day, you know, eventually I'm going to land on something.

So maybe people will just land on it and that'll be, that'll be great. Oh, to be in this time, to be childless at this time would be wonderful. I think that would be glorious. I'm just thinking now, like, how does he, how do you have so much time for movies? And I realize there's no four-year-old and five-year-old looking at you all day long like feed me entertain me take care of me no no i don't have any of that well do you want to borrow a couple i can bring them over okay well i might offer my services this might be a way for me to make money during

this pandemic you'd have to wear a hazmat suit though i think I'm okay with that. I would want to. If this pandemic was long enough, every FOTM will finally have watched Jack of All Trades to see... Why was Mike Willner nominated for Best Supporting Actor? What was so good about it? He should have been. What's Mike Willner doing right now, do you suppose?

I'm probably going to call him next. I often think about what's Mike Willner doing right now. do you suppose? Well, I'm probably going to call him next. I often think about what's Mike Wilner doing right now. You and me both. Cam playing the return single for a band that had a strange hit years earlier.

Sadness was the original big hit, right? This was obviously not a CFNY jam, but certainly it's called, but certainly a very memorable song and one that I thought would be a good place to close things out today.

Oh, is this the last song? Yeah. You're right. We need to leave people with hope. I think we need to leave people with a message of positivity and hope and just reassure everybody

that we're unified together. We're all united in this fight together and we're all in it together. You're not alone, you know, and we're all here for you, even though we're practicing social distancing and it will get better at some point. We as a people will persevere and beat this and return to innocence. Absolutely. Well said, Nike. I got a tear.

Completely non-ironically. I have a tear in my eye. Completely unscripted like everything else in this episode. Also, Enigma, not to backtrack into a backstory

like a documentary, but Enigma, like who knew they had even a singer in the group? If this song came out, it was like, oh, they have a singer? And I have vivid memories of waves crashing onto rocks or something in slow motion. Yeah, it was all filmed backwards, like a horse running backwards, like a unicorn running backwards. Excellent video. And the whole fall is falling into a tree and stuff. Great video.

Yeah, you're right. Exactly. I can see that apple climb going up to the tree right now, the branch. excellent video great video yeah you're right exactly I can see that apple going up to the tree right now the branch it sort of has

like a savage garden mashup with Duran Duran come on and I'd even throw in like a little Enya in there

Enya watermark or something oh more than a little Enya Enya's like queen of Dublin or something like that. It's interesting.

Enigma got... Enigma's really one guy, a German guy. I was going to say, he got sued because this sample is based on something called Elder's Drinking Song,

which is a native song from the Amis people of Taiwan. There's a whole lawsuit about it. Search Elder's Drinking Song on YouTube and be prepared to blown away. It's pretty much the same thing as this, less if you break feet. Well, you know I can do that, right? Elder's Drinking

Song. Is it by Defang? Yeah, I think it is. It's like a traditional song, or the chanting is, at least. Holy fuck! It's the same song! He just ripped this off? The poor old bastards?

He just took this and made a hit out of it? Fuck that guy! Oh my god! Read more on Wikipedia today. That is a grand theft larceny right there. Oh my god. That's literally the same fucking song. I'm getting angry. We had just ended on such a positive note. You know what? I'll edit this and I'll just

end it after my inspiring speech and I'll fade out. No way, man. The people need to hear this. Stop hiding the truth. I'd argue this is better than that Enigma crap. Like this is the,

this is the heart of that song. Yeah. I mean, it's very similar. It's pretty much the same thing. Just sort of like targeted up a bit. Similar, similar. It's pretty much the same thing. Just sort of like charted up a bit. Similar? Similar?

It is. It's literally that guy's voice. I haven't been this shocked since Whoop There It Is and Whoop There It Is came out at the same time. Yeah. Jump Around and Jump. Different songs, though. That's just the same title.

The Whoop There It Is, and of course we title. The Whoop, there it is. And of course, we remember it well. No, no, you're right. Because the Phillies and the Jays were going at it. That might be tomorrow's episode. Two songs that match for some reason. Yeah, you know what? I have a whole list in my head,

which I always have thought these two songs are too similar. We should do that. We should have thought these two songs are too similar. We should do that. We should come up with songs that are too similar and debate whether they ripped each other off or not. And yeah, I'm now rooting for the pandemic because the longer it goes, the more fun we'll have like that.

I'm rooting for this song. I mean, there's like a keyboard solo. Hey! This is like the opening to the Olympics. The interesting part about that song is that it's got like really controversial lyrics.

We just don't understand what he's saying, but he's like saying some real dirty shit. Stu Stone, Cam Gordon. It wasn't how I planned it. Like i didn't draw it on the board with this happening for episode 600 but you know what i'm glad it did happen it kind of just fell into place

nature took its course but now i can't imagine a better episode 600 of toronto mike thank you for joining me today that was a lot of fun, Mike. Be well. Yes, everybody, be safe out there. And that brings us to the end of our five, no, 600th. Oh, I screwed it up. We've got to do it again. And that brings us to the end of our 600th show.

You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at TorontoMike. Cam, are you at Cam underscore Gordon? That's right. And Stu, are you at Stu Stone? I mean, I better be. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery, they're still open, by the way.

You can still go to 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard and stock up on fresh cans of Great Lakes. Do it now. Just do it now. They're also in LCBOs and some grocery stores. Palma Pasta. They're still open at their four location for takeout only. You can take it out.

You can still order it online and pick it up, and you can still find them on Skip the Dishes if you live close enough to the stores. But they're at Palma Pasta. you dot is uh that's a website so sticker you dot com is always open very safe uh get some stickers for the kids to play with during this extended break uh stickers is always a great way to entertain children uh the keitner group they're still selling houses they're still uh evaluating homes they're being very safe about it but you could contact them on twitter the kaitner group banjo dunk is at banjo dunk with a c banjo uh always needs a next gig and right now everything's in flux so we're thinking of you dunk hang in there buddy the world needs bluegrass uh That's it for episode 600.

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