Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - FOTM Jams: Toronto Mike'd #719
Episode Date: September 11, 2020This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out the best jams from previous guests of Toronto Mike'd with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....
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I'm Mike
from TorontoMike.com and joining
me this 26th
Pandemic Friday
on a Thursday evening
is Stu Stone
and Cam
Gordon. Hello. And Cam Gordon.
Hello.
Welcome back.
Welcome back, Cam.
Thank you. I made it back from out of the woods.
You have a healthy glow.
Looks like you've been rolling around in the woods.
Yeah.
Well, I
wasn't in the woods. I was actually
working most of last week.
It was kind of a working vacation.
Working hard.
Was there any canoodling that we should know about?
There's a canoe up there.
Yeah, sure.
Do you take canoes?
Are you a canoe?
I don't picture you to be a water guy.
I'm not a big boat guy.
Yeah.
Actually, I went swimming most.
I was pretty much in the water daily.
You're not like a kayaker or something like that? No, not really. But I do love to swim. I love kay most. I was pretty much in the water daily. You're not like a kayaker or something like that?
No, not really, but I do love to swim.
I love kayaking.
I love it.
Yeah.
Are you a swimmer?
Yeah.
Grew up in Will's pool?
In Thornley Secondary School.
Did you worry on the swim team?
No, I was never on the team, but I took...
He's got a body type of a swimmer, right?
Like a Michael Phelps, kind of a long...
Well, tall.
He can reach the finish line.
Yeah, but that's like a wingspan. A good wingspan. I badge too so there's that oh wow i didn't quite get white that's
i got to gray as well and i don't quite get white does that mean you can work out like a local pool
no it means nothing means nothing i think it was like uh bronze cross was that like the thing you
needed to even be considered for like a training. You remember, the last color was white,
and then you had to go to a whole different department
to get those accreditation for being a lifeline.
Well, good news.
There's no need for any of these badges anymore
because summer is over.
We've jinxed it with our back-to-school episode last week,
which the ratings suffered poorly without Ken.
That was melancholy.
I did listen from the middle of nowhere.
And now it's instantly cold again.
I have some news about that.
So one of the jams I kicked out
and shockingly learned that Stu was unfamiliar with it,
but there's news this week
that High School Confidential by Rough Trade
has joined the inductees
into the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame.
I was sort of offended that Stu was not familiar with that.
Classic CanCon jam,
the great provocative.
It was very risque 40 years ago.
Still very risque.
I mean, some of the lyricism, you know, that's some...
Provocative.
Very provocative, yeah.
And Carol Pope, you must have reached out to her.
Is she like in the Eric Alba stable?
No, definitely not.
Definitely not. And somebody I should reach out to. I would love in the Eric Alba stable? No, definitely not. Definitely not.
And somebody I should
reach out to.
I would love to have
Carol Pope on the show.
You know who's a massive
Carol Pope fan?
You.
Fitzy.
Well, besides,
not Fitzy,
Sammy Cohn.
Loves her.
Who was missed
last week as well.
Yeah.
Where was Sammy?
What was the picture?
I didn't want to
zoom anybody in.
Like, I didn't,
like, we had it kind of set up,
and I was going to do the deep dive into the Stu Stone.
Was there a ratings deep dive without Cam?
Did we, like, learn anything?
I want to know, before we continue, there's lots to cover,
but Cam, did you listen on the car ride home?
Like, where were you when you heard that episode?
No, like, I was hot spotting from my phone a lot,
so I downloaded some podcasts just to listen to.
But do you find just like,
like considering you're,
that's the only,
the first episode of Pandemic Friday you've missed.
Like when you listen to it and you're not there,
are you like talking to it?
Like,
are you kind of yelling things at each other?
Like chiming in?
Yeah.
Like,
like what's that like?
Cause I've never,
I've never heard an episode of Toronto Mike.
Oh,
that makes two of us.
Are you serious? You don't listen? You're not, you don't listen to your own? No, I was mid sentence'd. Oh, that makes two of us. Are you serious?
You don't listen to your own?
No, I was mid-sentence again.
Stu does that all the time.
I pause for a fact and then he jumps in with some terrible truth.
Stick.
It's true, though.
I believe it's true.
I was going to say that I've never listened to an episode of Toronto Mic'd that I was not on.
What does that mean?
I'm always on.
Of course you're on the show. So Cam got to listen to a Pandemic Friday without Cam. What does that mean? I'm always on. Of course you're on the show. I'm always there for the recording.
So Cam got to listen to a Pandemic Friday without Cam.
What's that like?
So if I sat in and hosted for you one week.
Did you listen to the Sam Cohen, Cam Gordon episode when you were singing Shiva for Your
Father?
Yes, I did.
And what was that like?
It was okay.
It was strange.
Were you rooting against us, hoping we sucked?
Not at all.
Not at all.
I thought Sammy said some very kind things.
And, you know, I thought that the show itself was like really tailored towards him to make him feel welcome and inviting.
Western Canada.
That's right, yeah.
So, you know, I think he was set up to succeed, not fail.
Yeah.
No, he brought it.
He did a good job, Sammy, as always.
So welcome back, Cam.
You were missed.
Thank you.
Did you like the show?
Yeah, it was good.
Yeah, we were talking before you arrived, Stu,
like you did a bit of the deep dive on the Stu Stone music career, too.
Yeah.
What about the lack of Pink Floyd, Another Brick in the Wall there?
Well, it was interesting.
Yeah.
Did they get Hanson there on the obvious choice?
Yeah, I would say some.
But Alice Cooper got Hanson.
Yeah.
Maybe they both got Hanson.
But like, we don't need no education.
How is that not on us?
Did you not remember? Because I
considered that song. I thought that you would have picked it.
You got to stop playing that game, Stu.
That's a dangerous game. Well, I think this week
specifically. Oh, yeah. There was one...
There was a jam I was hoping one of you would
pick, and one of you did pick it.
And I didn't... I was
just kind of crossing my fingers.
I didn't want to taint the ecosystem by saying,
hey, wink, wink, pick this.
I didn't do any of that.
Are we allowed to have different songs from the same guest?
And we do.
Okay.
And we do.
Anyway, I was going to say, if I was on last week,
two songs I would have chosen personally
would have been Vitamin C, Graduation, Friends Forever.
I don't think that came up.
No, it didn't. i'm happy you weren't
on the show but go ahead i feel like i'm too old for that and then um i i for some reason i this
popped up on my my spotify recently um the aforementioned another brick in the wall but
by the band class of 98 do you remember what this was no this was a grunge well a
modern rock super group this was
a cover of that song that appeared on
I think that movie was called the faculty
it was sort of like a
horror movie yeah teachers are killing
the students yeah and this was a super
group I think it was like Lane Staley
and Tom Morello
do you remember this it's not class of 98
it's Class of
99.
What is this?
Oh, is this it right here?
Okay, you ready? Lane Staley, Tom Morello,
Stephen Perkins,
Martin Linnell. Oh, I went too quickly.
Wow.
Stephen Perkins from like Third Eye Blind?
No, that's the drummer for Jane's Addiction.
Oh, who am I thinking of?
Someone else, Perkins.
Maybe it is.
Unbelievable.
Layne Staley and Tom Morello?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, I don't remember this at all.
So this band's called Class of 99.
Okay.
So before we even utter another syllable,
I noticed we talk about the episodes
as if everybody knows what the theme is.
And then at some point, like 45 minutes into it, I'm like, oh yeah, the topic is this.
If that.
So we're kicking out our favorite songs by musicians who have appeared on Toronto Mic'd.
So I would say these are FOTM jams, but these are songs actually performed by FOTM.
And it would make people want to
maybe go check out those episodes
in the archives. Did you listen to
any of the episodes? I did skim.
I did have to skim because I wanted to
make sure I had some of my facts straight.
Okay, because I don't know how you skim
these compelling episodes. Well, you fast forward, like when
Leva Famke fast forwards whenever, you know,
Cam talks. Yeah.
Loser. Yeah, loser.
Cam, some things I want to cover before we get to kicking out the FOTM Jam.
By the way, do you want to tell me
about this fine lapel pin I have?
So you're both sporting.
Do you guys not remember where you got that?
Okay, Stu, tell them where you got that.
In between Scarfing Down Unlimited Pasta
with Mike Wilner's Secret Code,
these were given out
at the Toronto Mike.
This was at the
Palma Pasta event,
wasn't it?
See, my memory is
of these from TMLX3,
which was at
Great Lakes Brewery.
Sure, then you're
probably right.
Yeah.
I don't think those
came out for TMLX3.
Yeah, I feel like
you're right.
Like, this was the one
where, like, we have
the big group.
I was going to say
selfie, but it's not.
But it's us with
Hebsey and 1236.
Well-circulated
photo. In the future,
that'll be in a museum or something.
Legends of
podcasting. Okay, can I now
take the opportunity? To turn off the
Class of 99. It is terrible.
It's really bad. Really happy Cam was in the
woods last week. I'm disappointed because Lane Staley and
Tom Morello, you'd hope it would be good.
But there is another TMLX.
I don't know if you guys have it in your calendars yet.
It is TMLX 6, and it's a low-key chill Toronto Mic listener experience.
We're literally going to just have a low-key safe gathering in a public park.
I just wrote about it at torontomic.com, posted a map.
in a public park.
I just wrote about it at torontomic.com,
posted a map,
but the Toronto side of Marie Curtis Park at 6 p.m. next Friday,
which is the 18th,
just north of the playground,
like we're going to check in.
We're going to check in.
And it's going to be, like I said,
pretty chill.
And I'm going to, speaking of chill,
I will bring chilled beverages to... I was going to say, are you going to be, like I said, pretty chill. And I'm going to, speaking of chill, I will bring chilled beverages to...
I was going to say, are you going to be hearing this sound?
Very discreetly, possibly.
I'm not sure I'm allowed to tell you that.
If it's a Tahiti treat, yes.
It's a Coke Zero.
So you opened up a Hayes Mama?
I thought you'd go for the Burst, but you did the Hayes Mama.
You can't go wrong with any of these fine...
Oh, I have an update on Great Lakes.
Well, I crack one open. I'm going to open up a Hayes Mama, but tell me. Oh, I have an update on Great Lakes. Well, I crack one open.
I'm going to open up a Hayes Mama, but tell me.
So, oh, yeah.
We have, I started our online sort of campaign,
our rollout, if you will, for our new film.
And my partner Adam and I have been putting out
like sort of vlogs that we recorded during our production.
I caught one.
And there is an entire GLB mention and product placement
coming up in one of those vlogs.
Oh, so not yet, but soon.
So I've watched these.
These are on Facebook.
Now they're everywhere.
Initially, they were on Facebook.
Now they're on Instagram.
So on that note, I was going to ask Cam.
The problem with Twitter is that I There are no problems with Twitter.
I can't post the full video.
It has to be a limited amount of time.
It forces me to edit it. But put it on YouTube and link it from Twitter.
Yeah, but then people don't see it.
Is that true, Cam?
Do you have any comment on that?
Well, YouTube, you can tweet a YouTube link
and it will embed in a tweet.
I'll try that.
A bit less so in the other platform.
We'd recommend you upload it natively.
That's what I'm doing, and it gives me a time restraint. in the other platform we'd recommend you upload it natively that's what I'm doing
but I mean that's
and it gives me
a time restraint
we'll offline it
let's take this offline
so Cam
I want to ask you
about your television
appearance
but first
we teased it
for last week
and we did not deliver
Stu are you prepared
to tell us
the title
of your new movie
no
but I am prepared
because it's part
of this vlog rollout.
It's part of the story.
You want to ruin the story?
Cam, come on.
That's dumb, right?
It's not dumb.
It's not dumb.
The FOSSs are listening.
The FOSSs can go onto Facebook or Instagram or Twitter.
Cam Brio, he's already been on there and commented.
And they can watch these vlogs because it'll tell the story.
It'll nicely roll it out the way we planned it.
Cam Brio is hoping someone here in the FOTM jam kicking here, Watch these vlogs because it'll tell the story that'll nicely roll it out the way we planned it. You know, so.
Cambrio is hoping someone here in the FOTM jam kicking here, we kick out circle, circle, dot, dot.
That's Cambrio.
But please.
Yeah, I was just going to say, as someone who's made zero movies and Stu's made several,
I'll trust Stu's opinion on this too, how to build up. Do you want me to give you the ending of the movie before you see the rest of it?
Yes.
The title is a kind of a, you know.
So are you suggesting that once
people know the title, they'll figure it all out?
Then why have that title?
You know,
there's a lot of reasons to have that title.
There's familiarity to it.
There's clearly like a satire implied.
But you seem scared to tell us the title of the movie.
I've been told not to until
it's right. So you're saying it's like a pun?
A play on words?
Sort of.
Tongue twister?
The Butler did it.
I think that's the title.
Well, there you go.
Now you've ruined it.
So it is called
The Butler Did It.
The Robin Rich Butler story.
Yes, The Butler Did It.
So are we getting it next week?
It's about Jimmy Buckets.
Oh, yeah.
Locking out Milwaukee.
Who saw the heat
make in the conference final?
Okay, go Raptors. Amazing. Tomorrow night, I think... Tonight, if. Locking out Milwaukee. You saw the Heat making the conference final. Okay, go Raptors.
Amazing.
Tomorrow night, I think.
Tonight, if you're listening on Friday.
Yeah, pandemic Fridays.
But as I speak, it is tomorrow night.
I think it's a 9 p.m. tip-off.
9 p.m. tip-off tonight, Friday.
The reason it's bad is my 6-year-old has been loving.
We've been letting him stay up for all these 7 o'clock.
Oh, you've got to let him stay up.
But that's really, Cam, that's really late.
Inspirational team, though. You Oh, you've got to let him stay up. Cam, that's really late for a 6-year-old.
You know what? Maybe I will let him.
Why don't you lie to your kid and say
that the game's on Saturday morning?
He shares a room with a 4-year-old. I feel like I'll let them go
to bed, and then I'll wake up
Jarvis secretly to
come down after Morgan falls asleep and
bring him down to watch the end of the game. Do they share a room?
Yeah. Okay, that's going to be tough then.
I think I can do that. Will she be like, what the fuck?
Why don't you just say, hey, buddy, the game's going to be at 8 in the morning on Saturday.
And then he'll wake up at 8 and he'll watch the game.
I don't lie to my children, Cam.
It's like Saturday night's main event.
What's your name again?
Okay.
So are we going to have the name next week?
Or are you going to just tell me when you announce it on Facebook, basically guy i just wonder like should i keep teasing this i feel like all right so next
week you'll tell us the name of your damn movie okay exactly cam can you tell us about your cp24
uh appearance this past week actually that's that yeah that's actually my agent uh eric
yeah no i did this was a very genuine uh person on the street. I was hanging on the front patio of Sneaky D's
waiting for some nachos that I was picking out.
Oh, I have a song for this.
Oh, yes, you do.
Maybe I'll let you finish telling the CP24 story,
and you cue me when I can play just that,
like, 30 seconds of the lowest of the low.
Okay, yeah, exactly.
So, yeah, I was picking up some nachos at Sneaky D's.
I saw, but it was interesting
because both CP24 and Global were across the street.
So I'm like, oh, they're clearly,
this was the day after it came out on Twitter.
I believe it was my former Chart Magazine colleague,
Noah Love was one of the first people to tweet about it,
that the property where Sneaky D's is,
I guess the application,
whatever the process is,
you know,
yadda, yadda, yadda,
probably turned into a condo.
Right.
Huge uproar on Twitter,
as you can imagine.
Huge uproar everywhere.
Let me ask a dumb question.
Yeah.
I'm not a,
I never really was a big,
I didn't go to a lot of stuff
at Sneaky D's,
but I'm well aware.
You weren't there.
I wasn't there.
I'm like Alan Cross on this one.
But I do know the name Sneaky D's is a I'm well aware. You weren't there. I wasn't there. I'm like Alan Cross on this one. But I do know the name
Sneaky D's is a direct response to the name
Honest Ed's because it used to be located
at Bathurst and Bloor.
So it's moved once in the history.
So what's the big deal if it moves again?
Well, I mean, that's what a few old-timers were saying.
Stu's nodding, so he thinks it's a good point.
He's into it.
I mean, nachos are nachos.
Like, relocate.
There's room here in New Toronto.
Yeah, I just think...
Austin Keitner might be able to set them up.
Honestly, Austin Keitner's the man.
They should be texting Toronto Mike to
59559.
I don't know if you can edit the damn podcast.
He's not paying for this.
No, Austin's the man.
I did see
somebody, I didn't see it live
but somebody recorded
your appearance
on CP24
and put it on Twitter
that's right
and I will say
my first thought was
that's like a young
John Tesh
that's a very handsome man
John Tesh
yeah
I think that's a compliment
I don't know about
the young part
yeah
I'm a bit more
Leonard Maltin
no no no.
You were pure John Tesh, and you look good,
and you sounded good.
Was I poignant?
Did I have some good thoughts?
I thought you could slip in one Pandemic Friday reference.
I'm sure you should have bababooed or something.
Well, when I eventually saw it,
it was the throw, guess who it came from,
who was at the anchor desk at cp24 oh
uh it's an fotm okay yeah and he also played goodfried yeah also plays music so yeah we could
kick we could be kicking out some jams from his spoiler spoiler i want to play some lowest of
low now this is appropriate because uh lowest of the low qualifies for tonight's topic absolutely
they're fotms we could be kicking out, you know, salesmen,
cheats and liars, or there's so many great jams we could kick out.
Here's 40 seconds of a song called,
what is the title?
The kite song?
What's it called again?
It's like that song about kites and something.
That song about trees and kites.
Trees and kites.
And listen closely for theaky D's reference. And I just want to say that Lois and Lois are fantastic. I don't care about the cost of living I'm unaware of these depressing days
And I just want to say that Lois the Lore, fantastic.
Like even this little 30 second clip.
I was going to say, I assume it came up
in one of Ron Hawkins' many appearances down here in New Toronto.
How criminally underrated that album is.
How do you say it?
Hallucigin?
Genia?
Genia, yeah.
It's a fantastic album. It has gamb say it? Hallucigin? Genia? Genia, yeah. Yeah, it's a fantastic album.
It has gambles on that.
Am I right?
Yeah, and eat the rich,
eat the poor.
Is that...
Is the knife sharpener here?
He agrees.
Dickie D.
Yeah.
I think the...
Black Monday,
the Talks of February.
Did you ever work Dickie D?
Did you ever drive
one of those ice cream trucks?
No, I was too busy
at Wonderland.
Again, similar.
Oh, like the Today video from Smashing Pumpkins,
which we kicked out of the Grunge episode.
So to that point, I think Shakespeare, my butt was so enormous
that whatever came out next was going to be like a commercial.
Kind of use your illusion.
Similar to Sloan, I feel like there was a commercial letdown
after Smeared when they put out, what's the coax me one called?
Twice Remove.
Twice Remove, yeah.
You know what I mean?
But Critical Darling, but a commercial failure.
Well, I remember people said that the Hallucigenia, I can't say it.
Hallucigenia?
Hallucigenia.
That's the problem.
Yeah, they said it was too heavy, which is not true.
I mean, it's not heavy.
It's less jangly than Shakespeare.
Yeah, I guess so.
But we could kick that out.
And I'm going to put a song in the background
while we talk a little more here,
because I was thinking of all the FOTM songs,
and there are many I really love.
And then I realized, like, I did not pick the song,
so this is sort of like one of the songs
that will not make the cut.
Honorable mention.
But what a song Nova Heart is by Spoons.
Spoons. I actually had Spoons on my list, and I ended up replacing it.
But one of the Spoons songs was also the theme song for WWF Maple Leaf Wrestling on CHCH.
Really?
Yeah.
I'll send it to you.
Areas and symphonies?
No.
Do you want me to find out?
Yeah, find out.
Is it romantic traffic?
It's not, but that's a great song.
Yeah, I think I know the song you're talking about.
Some FOTM who I'm now forgetting,
his wife was in the Romantic Traffic video.
That's a TTC one, right?
Yes, there's a red rocket in that one.
So it's like...
But listen to this.
How does this not make the cut tonight?
We're going to play 15 plus FOTM jams.
Well, Mike, it's because you've had so much talent.
Seriously, I'm putting together this.
I thought I'd like, oh, what am I going to choose?
I'm going to get you the name of it.
Do you want to?
Yeah, give me the name.
Do you want to?
I think he's on CanadianBulldog.com.
Smiling in winter.
Smiling in winter.
At around the 242 mark in the song.
Oh, is this the one?
No.
The 242 mark is the theme from Maple Leaf Wrestling.
Okay, I've got to move it up.
Hold on.
I'll bring it down so I can get this right.
Multitasking here.
I'm going to put it to like 235 here.
You ready?
Okay.
Oh, yeah, that's it.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Wow.
I had no idea this was The Spoons.
Yeah.
That was like Channel 11.
Yes.
Like CHCH.
CHCH.
With Billy Red Lions.
Billy Red.
Don't you dare miss it.
Don't you dare miss it.
Who is it?
Someone's tweeting about
Iron Mike Sharp
and Johnny Canine.
I don't think
because they were both like,
well, not killed,
but they both died in Hamilton.
It was about being unworthy
of having a figure made of you
because somebody complained
about the fact that
who was your figure last week?
Oh, no. They were complaining about Cam's
Corporal Kirshner figure. My figure
was King Kong Bunny last week.
Perhaps an artist we're going to hear today
in one of their videos. You can bet on it.
Yeah. Which video was it? Do you remember?
It was
Wake Me. The Wake Me video.
So here, let me...
Can I say the band?
Is this a spoiler?
We're like getting right into it. yeah no it's okay so i do want to hear your experiences coming up to curate this
list like uh i'm gonna put this on the background here but okay uh so cam we'll start with you like
did five jams jump at you did you have to do a lot of edits? I had I'll say I had a list of
about 12 jams that was really
tough to pare down.
It's like
some great songs, some that would just be
fun to riff on, a little Chino
Vanelli, obviously.
A little different types
of genres, different types of music.
I'd land on a list of five,
but yeah, no shortage of great
jams. And again, credit to you,
Mike, for all the folks you've had down here
in the basement and for Eric
Alpert for bringing over like 25% of them.
No, that's not true.
I think he brought over Gino
and Colin James.
And Murray McLaughlin.
Yeah, he might have put me there, but sometimes
these people are Eric people.
Biff Naked was an Eric person.
But I reached out to her directly.
I didn't go through Eric.
I didn't know if she was an Eric person.
Eric's a good guy.
He's not territorial.
No, he's a good guy.
He hooked me up with Jay Douglas, who was back here just this last week.
Fantastic episode.
Are you kicking out any Jay Douglas jams today?
The Cougars?
No, because he was just here.
Tell me, Stu, about when you're coming up with your project.
Very impressive, by the way.
A massive list of who's who of CanCon, Canadiana, musicians that were on that list.
And my train of thought was I felt like I was going to stay on the beaten path of stuff that, you know, obviously I was familiar with.
Whereas I was leaving it up to Cam to do a deeper dive and play songs from guests that maybe I didn't know, but maybe I'm wrong about that.
But I went like pretty safe.
I was pretty safe with my choices of bands that I knew that I could speak confidently about.
could speak confidently about.
And I'm looking forward to hearing jams from some of the others that were on the list and learning about them and perhaps enticing me to go and dial up
those episodes to get firsthand accounts of their tales on your podcast.
How's that for an answer?
Loved it.
Now, Stu, reverse order here.
So starting with you, your thoughts on the Raptors as we head into Game 7 tomorrow.
Well, the game tonight, Friday night, between the Raptors and the Celtics,
I hope that it goes our way.
I mean, it is a momentum sport.
You know, when the Raptors are, they've got to get hot at the right time.
They've got to hit the shots at the right time.
If Pascal Siakam can hit baskets, then we'll win
because we won without him hitting any baskets.
So imagine if he can actually show up.
Listen, a lot of those shots were in and out.
It was just bad luck.
But he doesn't seem himself this series.
I'm sure his confidence is a little off.
You saw Marc Gasol.
He shook it off.
He got the haircut.
But he also played very poorly to start the game yesterday.
He came out of the game.
He went for a walk into the locker room, did some coke or whatever he did,
came back out, and he was off to the races.
And all of a sudden, he's hitting threes and playing his game.
So Pascal Siakam has what it takes to be a superstar in the NBA.
He needs to show up tomorrow night, and the Raptors will be fine.
I was going to say Fred didn't do much.
It seemed like it was all Lowry and Norm Powell.
They won the game, for sure, and everyone else was kind of like...
Well, the defense was good.
What I remember is our hero, OG Ananobi, who hit the date that we recorded last Thursday,
and then we recorded early, so we missed the first half,
and then we were...
Stu, I'm sure you caught the second half.
OG hits that.5 seconds
left shot. That was amazing.
We lose that game. We're not
around today. But OG had a couple
of free throws at crunch time
and he missed them both.
Listen, Juicy
is playing his ass off and he's
holding us down. And if you don't know, Juicy
is Kyle Lowry's new nickname
because of his juicy posterior.
Here's a question for you guys.
He's got back.
Is he a Hall of Famer?
I've been hearing this because Doug Gilmore is a Hall of Famer.
Sure.
And he's the Doug Gilmore of the Raptors.
Yes, he is.
If the Raptors, I should say, make it to the finals this year,
which I sincerely am rooting for,
I would say that Kyle has a very good argument.
I've never, ever had a moment where I thought
Kyle Lowry was a Hall of Famer. I feel like it
sort of depends who's in your generation.
He's going to be with Chris Paul
and Wes Brooks a bit.
Kind of like the
mid-30s point guard-ish
type guys. If he carries a team without
Kawhi, as he has been,
that's pretty exciting. If they can somehow accomplish back-toi, as he has been, that's pretty exciting.
If they can somehow accomplish back-to-back,
that will do a lot for his resume. There's no
high draft picks on this team.
That's kind of why it's amazing when you think
about it. We're one win away from the
conference final with really just
a bunch of talented
players, but there's no star.
It's a team game.
Who is the highest draft pick on this team? Nick Nurse. say probably like was gasol a high draft pick like he seems like
but he seems like his brother was traditional path i mean i guess larry was a big deal he was
in the james harden trade too was he not i don't because he was on he wasn't like he's not a lottery
pick or anything no but he was drafted by mem, I believe, and then went to Houston.
But yeah, it's funny.
I was just talking to someone today about how similar his path is to Gilmore because both Kyle Lowry and Doug Gilmore sort of had a reputation
for being kind of surly or bringing a bit of baggage with them.
And they're both diminutive.
Did I say that right?
Yeah.
Remember the stuff Gilmore and St. Louis?
I don't want to go into it.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, and Kyle Lowry just had a reputation
for just being kind of moody and chippy,
which seems unreal now because he's just everything but.
I compare.
I like to think of Kyle Lowry as if Wendell stayed healthy
and got a ring.
He's Wendell Clark if he was healthy and got a ring.
To me, he's more like Stroman.
Really?
Yeah, like a chip on his shoulder guy.
Oh, you mean he's got a little attitude. Yeah, he's just like Strowman. Really? Yeah, like a chip on his shoulder guy. Oh, you mean he's got a little attitude.
Yeah, he's just like, he plays bigger than he is.
Okay, speaking of Strowman, here's an F.
I was thinking when I got your jams,
I was really interested to see what you guys picked.
Here's a jam that was eligible to be kicked out tonight,
and it won't be kicked out.
Yeah, a couple of bonus jams.
But this jam's eligible.
Well, we've played it on our sports jams episode.
I'm just letting you know it's eligible.
This definitely crossed my mind.
It's crossed my mind too
because this is Keith Hampshire, who is
a proud FOTM.
And
I gotta tell you guys, I have...
Chase is doing very well. Yeah, I'm getting kind of into it
now. Well, here's the thing.
I don't want to pay for the
Sportsnet One.
Yeah.
So I get Sportsnet,
which gets me
the Raptor games
and it gets me
a lot of hockey.
And there's been very,
I don't remember
the last time
a Blue Jay game
was on Sportsnet.
Like all these,
these Blue Jay games
are going on Sportsnet One,
which I actually don't get.
So I can make a phone call
and I can call.
Kind of like Megan,
Megan Cox hook you up
or?
Damien's daughter.
Damien's daughter?
FOTM Damien Cox is to Hunter?
Yeah, you'd think they would hook up Toronto Mike.
Great camera angle, by the way.
Is it great?
Okay, so before we press record
on the podcast, Stu is
criticizing my camera angles
and you helped out quite a bit.
Are you both on it?
We're both on it.
We have some space. We're both on it. Plum Aposta's on there.
Great Lakes Beer. We have some space.
We've got Undertaker.
Undertaker.
Are there Undertakers?
Are you keeping an eye on the Periscope?
I am.
There's been one comment.
Game 6 almost killed me.
I don't know how I'll survive Game 7, but God, I hope they win.
And who tweeted that?
Andy Pandy.
Oh, yeah.
Andy's a sweetheart.
And I agree with Andy Pandy on that yeah, Andy's a sweetheart. And I agree with
Andy Pandy on that. I was having a heart attack last
night. I actually tweeted
the Homer Simpson heart attack
image there. I was going to say that
the last five seconds,
the closing play of the game was
very strange. Who was it?
Marcus Smart? He was like
pissed off. He's always like that.
Yeah, he's kind of chippy. I just want to punch him in the face. I'd take him on our team though. Boy, he was like pissed off. He's always like that. I just want to punch him in the face.
I'd take him on our team though.
He can hit a three.
Who's the guy
on the Bruins?
East Coaster.
Glenn Wesley. No, he's talking about
Marchand. Oh, Brian Marchand.
He's the Brad Marchand of the Celtics.
I think he went to Thornley.
Is Thornley, is thatator. It's Thornley.
Is that where Hayden went?
Yes.
Sure, yeah.
Because today somebody...
Not an FOT.
I've been listening to Hayden music for the last couple of days.
I want him on Toronto Mike.
Just as awesome and depressing as it was back then.
I want him on Toronto Mike.
I like the skate song.
Yeah.
I'm waiting for it to freeze up.
Yeah, that's a beautiful song.
Certainly.
Okay, so that was eligible
and wasn't kicked out. Let me thank some partners
and we'll start kicking out these FOTM jams.
So you mentioned Palma Pasta.
I have Palma Pasta.
I have a lasagna in the freezer. You guys have
to arm wrestle for it.
I still have one. I'm moving in a couple
weeks. I'll take it. Stu's got
it. I actually had this thought
like right after you drove away last Thursday that I forgot to give you one last week. Like I was going to get you one last week. I'll take it. Stu's got it. I actually, I had this thought like right after you drove away last Thursday
that I forgot to give you one last
week. Like I was going to get you one last week.
I'm starting to enjoy the beers
to be honest with you. So you might want to just
re-up on your... Yeah, I know.
I'm going to make up another bike trip and load up.
Beer's always flowing. Thank you Great Lakes
Brewery. We're always drinking our
beer during these pandemic Fridays.
And they're great,
great sponsors.
I can't wait till we can safely have a TMLX at,
uh,
at great lakes brewery again.
But in the meantime,
we'll be in a park.
We'll be at Marie Curtis park next Friday and the over under cam that Stu set
for TMLX six,
he says 19 and a half.
What do you,
what would you pick over?
This is for the,
the,
the covert,
uh, parking. Who will, the, the covert parking.
Who will,
how many FOTMs will attend?
19 and a half.
I gotta go under pal.
Sorry.
I don't know.
It's sort of weather contingent too.
Like,
you know, if it rains that day.
Yeah.
And I'm going,
I'm going rain or shine on this because it's so low key.
Oh,
I'm pounding the under.
Well,
Andy,
speaking of Andy,
when we initially discussed this, she thought 10 people might show up. I'm pounding the under. Well, Andy, speaking of Andy, when we initially discussed this,
she thought 10 people might show up.
I'm thinking bigger.
I'm going over.
I do wonder, you know...
Was there a couple hundred at the previous ones?
Not quite.
There was at least 100.
When Lois and the Lo played at TMLX3,
you were close to 100 people.
100 different people showed up.
Like Lou Skies has filled a room at Palma Pasta
with his personality.
He tweets me a lot by the way.
Lou? Yeah.
Did he ever record any music?
Are we going to hear any Lou Skizis tonight?
I guess like a Jesse and Gene
parody song. I have one of those on mine.
That would count.
Star Trekkin? Do you remember Star Trekkin
across the universe? No, I don't remember that.
I think that was like a classic.
That might have been Rivers Air Force probably.
It's not even them.
But I know Humble and Fred have put on those.
Speaking of Blue Jays, like the Variety, what's it called?
Variety?
Variety Village.
Variety Magazine that used to get at Cineplex.
Oh, no.
Variety is like the industry standard.
Yeah, that's like a trade pub.
Yeah.
Trade pub.
What was I thinking of?
You're thinking of. There was like a movie magazine. Yeah, that's like the trade pub. Yeah. Trade pub. What was I thinking of? You're thinking of...
There was like a movie magazine.
Yeah, Terry Hart was always involved in this one.
There was Famous and there was Tribute.
Tribute.
Tribute.
That's what it is.
I feel like Terry Hart had something to do with it.
Shout out to Emily Wexler.
She used to be the editor.
Oh, yeah.
She's the pitcher over there.
I'd like to...
Yeah, Wexler.
I'd like to shout out Terry Hart, if that's okay.
Why not?
She's a good FOTM, so...
But unlike Tara Sloan, who did record some great songs with a band that's eligible.
So, okay.
So, let's get to the music.
Let's thank Barb Paluskiewicz.
Oh, we've got to thank her.
Barb Paluskiewicz.
If you write an email right now to barb at cdntechnologies.com.
Right now, in the subject line, put Toronto Mike book.
She's going to send you a free book.
She's got a great book with some tips and tricks and how to protect yourself.
Absolutely free, free book.
I'm emailing her right now.
Barb at cdntechnologies.com.
They're your outsourced IT department.
And this is important because I keep hearing about LA canceled Halloween.
Have you heard this?
Yes.
And there's like,
oh, is John Tory going to cancel?
First of all,
I don't think he has that authority,
but I think regardless...
Halloween is cancelled.
Halloween is going to be different.
Well, Doug Ford said
it's making him nervous.
I don't think...
I'm not answering my door
on Halloween night,
but I might put a bowl
of treats out there
for kids to safely come
and get one.
No?
Cancel that shit.
Okay.
Then there's only one way to save Halloween.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
Grandma, grandpa, mom, dad, you got to go to pumpkinsafterdark.com and book your drive-thru event.
The park is in Milton, Ontario.
And it's, I have exactly, it's 2.5 kilometer driving route, 88 acre farm.
You got 150 jack-o'-lantern sculptures, 7,000 pumpkins.
There's a 50 foot long tunnel.
There's a 40 foot tall tower.
You got to use the promo code.
They changed this on me, so pay attention.
Miked, M-I-K-E-D.
That saves you 10% at pumpkinsafterdark.com.
Save Halloween for the kids.
Save Halloween, save money.
Sounds like a spooktacular good time.
You're good at this.
When does Pumpkins After Dark start?
It must start pretty soon.
It's already started.
I think it started.
So you can book your day and time.
It's like a time slot you book.
And you drive through the event.
It's very safe.
If you ride with Cam and he's driving,
it's going to be even
scarier just getting there.
I was helping
Cam park earlier today.
That's right. Bumper to bumper. I know what you mean.
Okay.
Finally, I want to thank StickerU.com.
Those badges you guys are wearing
were made by StickerU.com.
They did fine.
Wear them with pride. I'm glad you guys got them.
They're technically not stickers.
They're magnets.
Yeah, they do a lot of different things.
That's why you got to go to StickerU.com.
You can get temporary tattoos, badges, stickers.
They're awesome there.
And we already talked about Austin Keitner.
If you're looking to buy and or sell
in the next six months,
reach out to Austin.
Text Toronto Mike to 59559.
And I
look at you Cam Gordon and I
ask you this.
Are you ready to kick out the FOTM
jams? Hell yes.
Oh shit.
Love the life you live.
And live the life you love.
After life is death.
I was talking to her today.
Perfect. Thank you. I know what goes around comes all the way back.
You might be fat now, but one day you'll be right.
So if you're deep in confidence, then you're confident's cool.
But don't be hard-headed and let it play you like a fool.
Cause I know the way it is.
All your eagles took for show
took your heart
then your heart
but if you're not
that's how it goes
love the life you live
I live the life you love
but after life
there's death
ragged death
it's great jam
yeah so this is
this song is better
than I remember
like I remember
like it at the time
but I'm like
the ragged stuff has aged wonderfully like it is better than ever yeah. Like, I remember Likey at the time, but I'm like... The Ragged Death stuff has aged wonderfully.
Like, it is better than ever.
Yeah, like, and it feels like sort of, you know,
this kind of genre-crossing stuff from the 90s
sometimes doesn't play as well in the current day.
But anyway, this is Ragged Death.
The song One Life featuring vocals from FOTM Mishi Mi.
I love Mishi Mi.
Yeah, and she like
brings it here. Like this
does not seem forced. Like she seems in her
element. This song's from
1995 and this was something I
actually learned. I always thought that
she was part of Ragged Death.
But it actually was, I guess,
guest vocalist. I never heard the Ragged Death albums.
Like Mike and the Mechanics.
Yeah, so she was not
like a full-time member but certainly appeared on a lot of uh their content so here's here's a few
words about uh raggedeth here so it was actually a two-person band a producer dj drummer named
stephen kendall and a producer engineer bassist and keyboardist uh walter subziaks sounds like
season two of the wire here yeah yeah and steve major played all
the guitars on the record dean bentley on drums and darren quinn on guitar of a monster voodoo
machine do you remember this there i think they're from montreal like how one of those
can con heavier bands i don't doesn't ring a bell what about you stew nope no monster
okay um i feel like i get them mixed up
with big head todd and the monsters i could see how that could happen both both monster band and
monster magnet um so anyway that the band utilized a variety of vocalists so in this way perhaps
similar to um and not enigma uh what was that band? Oh, Never Ending Lights. Never Ending White Lights.
They did that.
And there's the one, and Delirium,
which who brought in Sarah McLachlan and various people.
Yeah, and you kicked them out in the past.
Yeah, so anyway, Mishimi most famously appeared with this.
And this song, One Life, was a pretty substantial
Much Music and Edge 102 hit.
I remember also Martin Streak would kick it out on
Yeah, because it's got that guitar in it, right?
So it's a good genre bender.
Yeah, like it would go in with Rage Against the Machine
and Beastie Boys and stuff.
So this song, interestingly
enough,
they actually
performed this song on the 1995 Much Music
Video Awards. Supposedly
the only time this song was performed
live with Nishimi. Oh, wow.
Which is kind of interesting. I guess they never really
toured when this album came out.
But she performs it herself.
I feel like I heard her perform it last
summer at a beer fest. Yeah, that makes sense.
I mean, this was a pretty sizable hit.
This song was also
one of the Much Music Video Awards for the best alternative
video that year in 1995. Man, that's cool. And it was also that when the much music video works for the best alternative video that year in 1995 man
that's cool and it was also that year named the favorite canadian song in chart magazine's year
end reader poll so again kind of like in ragged of kind of they had a couple of other um a couple
other albums that came out and then uh kind of like fade away kind of quickly they were done
by the end of the 90s can you name a face it, can you name a Ragged Death song
that did not feature Mishimi?
No.
No, I cannot either.
And I can name a few, but they're all Mishimi jams
that I can think of here.
So here's the fun fact.
Speaking of...
This better be fun.
This is pretty fun.
You know, Pumpkins After Dark, you know,
it's a place perhaps you take the kids.
Did you guys ever go to Puck's Farm?
Of course.
Yes.
It's like the commercials, did it have like a goat or something? Yeah. And we got a goat. perhaps you'd take the kids. Did you guys ever go to Puck's Farm? Of course. Yes. I can,
it's like the commercials did have like a goat or something.
And we got a goat.
Yeah,
like you've gone the weekends
with people or like with us.
Anyway,
there's also,
I don't know if you guys know,
there's also a recording studio there.
Oh,
Puck's Farm recording studio?
Yeah.
PFRS.
Are you saying Mishimi is the goat?
Well,
she is,
but it's actually,
the reason I bring it up is because one of the guys in Ragged Death
now works at that studio.
Oh, at the farm.
At the farm.
At the farm.
Why don't you call the Puck's Farm and try to book them as a guest?
Yeah, get some pumpkins over there.
No, really, though.
Like, don't you want Ragged Death to be on your show?
I got Mishimi, which was...
I know, but you could get the rest of the guys that are in Puck's Farm.
Yeah.
Hear what they've been up to.
Yeah, I'll look into it, man.
That's a good idea.
At least he's not working at BORK.
Remember BORK?
Boyd Outdoor.
Yeah, it was like an acronym.
I think it was B-O-R-K.
Speaking of this kind of jize, you guys know there's this theme park.
I think it's in New Jersey called Action Park.
Yeah.
And you're familiar with it.
They made a dog.
I mean, I've seen a few dogs.
Class Action.
Class Action. That's it. Like there was kind of no rules and stuff. Yeah. Well, they familiar with, they made a dock, I mean, I've seen a few docks in the interview, but class action,
that's it.
Like there was kind of
no rules and stuff?
Yeah,
well,
they didn't adhere
to standards and codes.
Yeah,
like it was kind of
a lawless.
So somebody would draw up
and they didn't care
about adhering to codes
and standards.
A lot of anti-maskers.
So a lot of damaged children,
I think,
who went to there.
But I'm looking,
I've got to see this dock.
Have you seen it yet, Stu?
I haven't,
but I know what
you're talking about.
Yeah,
it's no Jack of all trades
or anything.
It's no unnamed Stu Stone.
It's so hard every time I record it
because I know the title
of this Stu Stone movie
and I've never slipped once.
Good.
I'm going to spread the word
it's called The Butler Did It.
That's going to be the rumor.
Well, that might confuse Cam
who already has been searching
for that on browsers.
Find some other good songs.
So let me just say again, and I almost feel like these are my songs.
It's strange because these are people.
These are your babies.
They came over.
The people who created these songs were nice enough to come over and spend some time with me.
By the way, your kids are home.
Because we record early.
I'm going to go.
Cam went big.
I'm going to go.
I see his Michimie
And I raise him
Of course she's a legend
Be careful Stu
No she is a legend
Of course
I was just saying
Like the song selection wise
I think that this is going to be
A really strong selection
For the first round here
And someone who was on the show
Quite recently
Oh
You can go ahead
And I'll just say
50% of this band
Has been on the show
Oh well there you go
Here we go.
Do your time to pay the price
For everything you've done wrong, baby.
In your life, you get so high, there's nowhere left to go but down.
Don't believe that no one cares, because we're here waiting for you, baby.
Do your time, then come home for good. Yes.
Not yet. Hold on.
I'm dying to know how you came.
How did you choose which Sloan jam?
Well, I'm going to let you know.
I'm excited.
Interestingly enough, on my second appearance ever on your show i kicked out 90s can con alternative rock jams no wonder i like you and uh i had sloan selected there obviously
because i love sloan and um i think i played coax me or Underwhelmed, one of those two songs. But I figured I would go to the top of their catalog and choose this
because this actually is a song called Everything You've Done Wrong by Sloan.
And this was the second single from their 1996 album, One Chord to Another.
Can I guess the first one?
The Good in Everyone?
Yes.
Okay.
This happens to be the band's highest charted single ever in Canada,
reaching number six on Canada's singles chart.
That's a shocker, right?
You know what else is a shocker?
You're going to be underwhelmed by the rest of the stats, I'm going to say,
pun intended.
It's really quite shocking to me.
When I did a deep dive on trying to do some research,
it really was a wake-up call, so to speak,
on the Canadian bands that we love so much.
That Rusty reference?
Wake up?
Yes.
But no, this is really quite shocking.
But before I get to that, I want to talk about Sloan.
And I know that they've been on your program.
Okay, so for the record, Chris Murphy and Jay Ferguson have been on Toronto Mice.
So that is two of the members of the band.
Jay Ferguson, Chris Murphy, Patrick Pentland, who wrote this song, and Andrew Scott.
Those are the guys right there.
But interestingly enough, Sloan is considered a Toronto-based band, even though they're originally from Halifax, Nova Scotia.
We know about their catalog.
We know about their Juno Awards.
But do you know how they got their name?
Did they ever tell you that? Because I could tell you how they got the name Sloan. Tell me. I'm sure they told me.
I always ask that question. I can't remember the answer. Well, they had a friend named Jason Larson.
I hope I'm saying his name right. I'm sure I am. He was one of their
best buddies and he had a nickname. People called him
Sloan, but he had a French speaking
boss and with his French accent
referred to him as Slow-on.
Slow-on.
They're Sloan. It's like Geddy Lee, Gary Lee
type of thing. And like Custom,
who's not an FOTM but should be,
because his name is Dwayne and
when people would cross the border, the
French word for Custom
is something that looks like Dwayne.
Who's here bilingual?
Dwayne, I don't know.
Dwayne?
Something, anyway, sorry.
Sloan.
Sloan is the original agreement
that they had with Larson
was that they could name the band after him
as long as he could be on the cover
of their first album,
and as a result,
it is Larson who appears on the cover
of the Peppermint EP.
Oh, yes, the first.
Like sort of a close-up of him.
That's pretty interesting.
Now, here's the sad part.
Well, no, here's another piece of good news.
That song that we just heard
was in the film The Virgin Suicides,
Sofia Coppola, Francis Ford's kids' movie,
so that was a pretty good look for them.
But here's the part that's going to shock you guys.
I'm ready.
In 1996, Sloan released One Chord to Another.
Now, that's the album that certainly was their breakout album commercially,
you would think, right?
That had this song and the music videos.
I'm going to wait for you to finish the fun fact before I give my opinion.
Well, that album was their largest selling album that they ever had.
Sold 80,000 copies.
In Canada, right.
80,000 copies and is their best selling album to date.
That doesn't specify Canada.
That just says 80,000 copies.
Okay, right.
So that is shocking to me being that that's not a lot.
And so you talk about how these bands didn't make a lot of money.
Maybe Sloan, you would think that these guys should be rich.
I'm glad you're bringing this up because often I have over these big rock stars like Sloan.
And one of the things I'm fascinated by is how they're like me and you.
They're not like you see.
They're not like Billy Joel.
You know what I mean?
I mean, to sell 80,000 copies in Canada is a big feat considering how many people live in the country.
But to us who grew up buying that CD,
everybody had it, so you just assumed that they were
on the level of the American cast.
I think I knew all 80,000 people.
I was going to say, that was the time CDs were flying
off shelves, too.
To put it into comparison,
the Jamie Kennedy Stu Stone album,
which is not even good compared to the
Sloan album, obviously.
That's like comparing apples to horse shit.
The Jamie Kenny Stu Stone album sold 300,000 copies.
That's interesting perspective.
And Sloan, which I would consider to be one of the great albums of Canadian music
that I grew up with, 80,000 copies.
So we need to do something.
I don't know whether this is a future event that the three of us can put together
like a Pandemic Friday Live, but some sort of show where we can bring these bands back to do something. I don't know whether there's a future event that the three of us can put together like a Pandemic Friday
Live, but some sort of show where we can bring
these bands back to the forefront.
We talked about this many times. Obviously, we can't do it
now because of COVID, but that's something we should look into
and bring out the Heads and the Haydens
and the Rustys and the Sloans of the world
and let's put them back on the map. You're singing
my song, Stuart. Treble Charger, invite them.
Oh my God, yeah, you're singing my song. People would come
like Lois the Loaf. I would go to that show.
All Star Jam
on Rosie and Gray.
This will be the best
TMLX ever.
But that's just so,
it's just sad
because that Sloan album
is so classic,
it's so great
and it's a blip
on the radar.
So one chord to another,
that's the third album release.
The blue album.
It was like an EP
or whatever.
But the American label that signed them,
they did Smeared, right?
Which they tried to break in the States
and they weren't happy.
But then, of course, Twice Removed,
we talked earlier about the commercial failure
of Twice Removed.
They basically were,
my understanding,
having talked to Jay Ferguson a few weeks ago,
is that they were all but broken up.
They had a couple of obligations,
like an edge fest and some things.
I read that too.
They were done.
They were like, okay, let's just put this out they were done and they used the fact
they were breaking up to get out of the record deal like they said we're done there's no plan
there's no record deal and they had already started their own label that they were kind of
sharing like murder records murder records so basically one chord to another uh is almost like
the the album that like it's like they were done and then they put out this album and the rest is
history it was called the enc called the Enclave or something.
That was the US label
and I remember then that went out of business.
It wasn't sub-pop.
I will say this.
Now, in their defense,
because I'm not shitting on their 80,000 sold copies
because that's a lot.
If that's Sloan's highest selling album,
if that's Sloan's highest selling album,
that scares me to see what other acts
that I consider to be huge.
Oh, you're thinking of Fluke now. how many how many units did probably like who i'll
we'll get to that but i will say that if they did own murder records as you're saying and they were
collecting 10 bucks a record they actually made a lot of money they made eight hundred thousand
dollars on that record to jay ferguson i quoted i think it was lips but somebody from uh what's
the utopical band? Oh, Anvil.
Anvil. I almost called them anthrax, but okay.
Anvil said, you're better to sell
10,000 records and own your shit
than sell a million records with the
big label, because they'll take all that money. I agree.
I had a buddy named Elliot Yamin, who was
on American Idol in one of the earlier seasons.
I think I remember that name. And he released
an independent record.
He didn't win the show, but he put out a song,
Baby, I will wait for you.
He sold a million copies, got $10 a record,
and did way better than he would have if he signed a major label.
Own your shit.
So maybe Sloan did it right in their way.
Murder record.
But my point, even if they split that up between the four of them,
management, maybe they made a couple hundred grand each.
My point is they deserve more
because they are great
and should be able
to make a living
on their music
because their music
is spectacular
I'll just piggyback
on that to say
when this COVID shit ends
and it will end right
I mean we're on
26th Pandemic Friday
and I feel like
we're not quite
halfway done
these Pandemic Fridays
so pace yourself
when this shit is done
support your bands man
when
I'm
you know
if Sloan's playing
at the Phoenix or whatever,
go shell out the 40 bucks
and go to a sale.
I was going to say,
buy a ticket
even if you don't go.
Buy a ticket
and give it to a homeless guy,
right?
Give it to anyone.
Yeah.
Or a girl.
Sure.
So, yeah, there you go.
If Sloan sold 80,000 records
and that's their
highest selling record,
that scares me.
And you sold 300,000
with Jamie.
Well, I personally bought
all 300,000 copies, but I personally bought all 300,000
copies but
sitting in his basement
Cam bought a few
I have five
and I know
Mark Weisblatt
but he bought it
we went aluminum
okay my friends
I'm excited to kick out
my first FOTM jam
I'm going to let
the simmer a bit
because I think it's
one of the most
beautiful songs
of all time
are you ready
yes sure I'm going to let this simmer a bit because I think it's one of the most beautiful songs of all time are you ready? yes
sure
I will give you everything
that you've ever wanted And with this promise
I will bring you home again
I will give you anything
If you don't demand it
And with one promise
I will make you mine again
I will give you everything that you've ever wanted
I will give you everything because it starts like that. Oh, so far it's still good, right? But we're, we're just about to get that, uh, what's it?
Uh,
Andrew Cash.
As it,
uh, Andy Mays is the FOTM has been on the program.
So shout out to Andy,
but,
uh,
Andrew Cash and Andy Mays,
and they do that harmony where their,
their voices swim together.
I think it's Peter,
like Andrew Cash is like the solo artist.
And then was an MP.
Yeah.
He's only went into politics.
Yeah.
I could.
Yeah.
I think it's Peter.
Peter.
Yes.
Why do I think it's Andrew Cash?
Josh Finlayson is the co-guy But it's coming soon
And honestly
Forget the fact they're FOTMs
It's one of my favorite songs
Regardless
You know what I've always loved about this song?
Tell me
There's many things
But this is such a simple song
There's really few lyrics
the instrumentation
is really basic
it is Peter Cash
why do I think
it's Andrew Cash
well again
I think Peter Cash
left after a certain point
what's the name
of the group
Sky Diggers
I'm sorry
it's the self-titled debut
I think 1990
I'm not familiar with this
what's the name of the song
I Will Give You Everything
I hope it was called that
because they've said it
a lot of times
and it got airplay on 102. I Will Give You Everything. I hope it was called that because they've said it a lot of times.
And it got Airplane 102.1.
It's a cool song.
I like it. This is...
So let me give it a bit of...
Moment here. Got some comments coming in from the chat room
saying that it sounds like Blue Rodeo.
I have a question about this song.
Tell them it's not fucking Blue Rodeo. I have a question about this song. Does it have more...
Tell them it's not fucking Blue Rodeo. Does this song have
more lyrics or more chords?
Because I count three chords.
And I will
give you everything.
Five... Okay, so this is
the first ever signing
of the Canadian branch of Enigma
Records. It's a good song.
Skydiggers. Their debut. This's a good song. Sky, Sky Diggers. Sky Diggers.
Uh,
and their,
their,
their debut.
This was the first hit.
Was this their second album or their third album?
No,
their first.
I feel like there's one before this.
Was there not?
Okay.
If there is,
I'm not aware.
I feel like there's something called just across the mountain or something.
Am I imagining?
Or is that,
was that the name of this album?
Uh,
no,
this album is self-titled.
Okay.
Sammy Cohen checking in,
saying hi.
Tell Sammy Cohen to stay tuned.
He might hear himself.
Just a quick update.
I did get a text message from my buddy Eli the Creeper Eyes,
who is a worldwide famous music producer and songwriter.
I like that handle.
Yeah, his work you could hear on the new Lady Gaga album,
the new Childish Gambino record.
Those are names.
He's listening right now.
He wanted me to let you know,
this may be related to Sloan's direct sales of that album we talked about,
but after that Sloan album, Canada, the recording industry standard,
changed the rules and platinum records,
which used to commemorate 100,000 sales,
was changed to 80,000 records sold to go platinum.
But that was after the Sloan album,
so they didn't retroactively get to go platinum.
One chord to another.
Interesting.
So there you go.
So now if you sell 80,000 copies in Canada,
you go platinum.
In America, you sell a million copies to go platinum,
just to put it into perspective.
Because I feel like a million copies in Canada
is a diamond record.
Probably.
Because I feel like Tragically at Bed 2,
like fully, completely, and like Ken's a diamond record. Probably. Because I feel like Tragically at Bed 2, like fully, completely in like Ken House
were diamond records.
This is why the bands,
this is a good example, Skydiggers.
They tried very hard, of course,
to label, to sell Skydiggers to Americans.
And Sloan is another good example
that's smeared in everything
during the grunge wave and everything.
Like they tried very hard
because of the fact that, you know,
300, I don't know what it is,
350 million people or whatever down there.
Like breaking in the States changes everything
from a financial perspective.
However, there's bands that broke here first,
like Backstreet Boys broke in Canada
before they went to America.
So Canada has also been used as a guinea pig
for pop success.
I feel like that band Bush was like big here before.
Like a lot of British bands will sort of shortcut
through Canada.
Or even a band like Catherine
was always more popular in Toronto than
it seemed like most of. The chat room is a
buzz. Sammy Cohen says that the
Sky Diggers album was their debut.
That song you played was the debut. He confirms that.
And Eli who's now in the chat
chatting. This is fantastic. He is saying
that Diamond
is now 800,000, he's assuming,
and only a few Diamond albums in Canada history,
and he thinks Our Lady Peace, who we may hear from later,
is one of those artists.
Taggart.
Yeah, stay tuned.
These are all bands coming up soon.
And yeah, I see now Sammy Cohen has liked my tweet to join us.
So Sammy and Eli, two professional musicians in the chat room chatting right now.
Some high caliber people.
Honestly, I got to keep moving it because just in case,
just in case Moe Berg is in the chat room there.
Here we are, Cam Gordon.
J. Douglas.
Oh, I love it.
I wish.
Although I put him on Ralph B. Murgy's show,
and I spent a long time with him doing technical support
to get that Zoom working right.
Oh, my God.
By the way, his voice,
like when he started singing,
it's gorgeous.
I love it when the artists sing along
to their own songs.
I love it.
Round two.
Stay tuned.
Here we go.
Cam Gordon's second jam. Hey! When the flowers hang like bass Boys of me live thicker Than break out the party house
Kiss me till you hurt me
Then again until I'm numb
Burn holes in my neck
With a bit of muggy tongue
Remind me again
How lucky I am right now
Love out my body
But then I turn off the lights
Pulling out cigarette tangles
Cigarette tangles I want it ride that wave.
Me too.
I love this song.
I love this song so much.
Talk to me, Cam, because at the end,
when you're done giving us your facts,
there's a bonus audio element.
There sure is. Mini mind blow coming at the etc. There's a bonus audio element. There sure is. Yeah, mini
mind blow coming at the end. So this is the
Pursuit of Happiness. Woo!
The song Cigarette Dangles. Love this band.
Late winter 1993.
Song went to number
51 in Canada.
So it's a moderate hit.
Should have been higher, but
anyway, it is what it is.
I was going to gonna ask is their biggest
hit i'm an adult now or is it something i feel like it might be uh hard to laugh maybe that
yeah love junk is a todd run grin produced yeah it was interesting actually looking how many
charting hits in in canada um i feel like because they kind of straddled the 80s and the 90s sometimes
they get lost because i don't really think of them as a 90s band. Because they're side by side with Skid
Row and
sort of like Sloan, you know what I mean?
If you Google it, you'll probably find it. There's a great photo
of Moe Berg and Axl
Rose from like 89.
And it was kind of staggering to see how similar
their hair was. Like that really
long straight hair. Did Shannon Hoon make an
appearance in that photo?
He was singing backup.
So anyway, this was from their third album,
Downward Road. This was after
Johnny Sinclair and Leslie Stanwyck
had left a form.
Don't tell me. Honey. Don't tell me.
Something honey.
Universal Honey.
Who I used to get mixed up with the Wild Strawberries.
Right. I can see how you'd mix it up.
But Universal Honey were fantastic too.
And they were just on the Raven Drool podcast.
Oh my gosh.
I have to drop other podcasts.
My arch nemesis.
I know.
So when they left, who joined the band?
FOTM Brad Barker.
Yes, Brad Barker, who's at Jazz FM today.
You can hear his voice on Jazz FM today.
So two members of this band have been on Toronto Mike.
That's right, yeah. Moe Berg from Edmonton,
my wife's hometown.
So
much like Sammy Cohn and the Watchmen
who are from Winnipeg.
Now walking his dog. No longer need to pander to him.
Tell him to come back because he might hear himself.
So a couple of
fun facts. I don't even know what this
are. Moe Berg. I don't know
if I ever mentioned this. I once hired him.
I briefly did PR for TELUS when I worked for agencies
and we were doing this event.
It must have been like a phone launch event
at the TELUS headquarters right by the Scotiabank Arena
and we needed a DJ for the event.
York Street, I think.
Yeah, exactly.
20 York or something.
Yeah, and I used to hang out at,
there was a bar in the annex where I used to DJ Taps. I think it was just called The Tap. Yeah. And I sort of, I used to hang out at, there was a bar in the annex
where he used to DJ taps.
I think it was just called The Tap.
Yeah.
And I knew he DJ'd there,
so somehow he just like found his email
and emailed him and we,
you know, we paid Moberg 500 bucks
or whatever and he DJ'd
the Telus event for us
and that was like starstruck.
Yeah.
I would have done it for 600.
Yeah.
So we had like mobile syrup was there.
What would it cost
to get Stu Stone to DJ your event?
1,500.
Is that true?
Because there might be
a prospective client out there.
Let me know.
Okay.
It'll be like, you know, start off with...
Let's start it off at $2,500.
What about to get you to rap at like a wedding?
$5,000.
Ooh.
Let's start it at $2,500 for DJing.
If I wanted the spoons to sing Nova Heart at my wedding,
what would that cost me?
$300.
$1,000?
Do you want to get the friends and family rate,
like the FOTM rate?
I remember I did not pay lowest of the low to play.
That's incredible.
When COVID hit, I was in hardcore negotiations
with Sammy Cohn and Danny Graves of The Watchmen
to get them to play TMLX6.
Oh, really?
There were hot and heavy negotiations happening
and I was not going to pay a penny.
Okay.
And that's another good Sky Diggers song.
So I just want to say, if you think that's a beautiful song,
I will give you a penny more.
Well, do you want a little inside baseball
about Twitter Canada?
Once we were feted by a live acoustic performance
by the Watchmen.
This was like in my first year.
Wow.
Because Sammy worked there.
Yes, this was during the Sammy Coney era.
We're all four members there? Yeah, it was awesome. Sammy Coney. Yeah, and it was... We're all four members there.
Yeah, it was awesome.
What is this?
Oh, so Eli just wrote in the chat
that he likes The Watchmen.
That's Sammy Cone who was talking to you in the chat.
He's the drummer from The Watchmen.
Are you just realizing that, Stu?
No, no, I'm telling the people in the chat.
Okay, yes, okay.
Let them know a member of The Watchmen has shown up.
And I just want to say hello to Kareem,
my neighbor, who is now on the deck with us.
Yeah, what's happening to your roof?
You might have heard some, like, leaf blowers off.
Are you getting, like, the roof done?
I think it's the eaves trough.
The gutters.
You can hear Kareem because he's off mic.
Swung from the gutters.
No, I think replaced, actually.
I think it was all brand new gutter stuff.
And soffits.
Do you guys know what a soffit is?
I don't know.
Did Kareem bring blunts for all of us is the question.
Are you holding?
He's out of weed. He's out of weed.
He's out of weed.
Can somebody bring a weed?
I'll drop my address.
Yeah, you got a little roach or something?
By the way, is that a tiger's hat
or is that like another team?
Like that's, okay.
I like that style.
I like that embroidery.
All right.
Can I, one.
Fuck no.
That's a classic D.
There's a show I'm watching on,
it's an HBO show called High Maintenance
and every episode stands alone with different characters and actors and it's very interesting but the the
thread that ties it all together is the weed sales guy like he bikes around new york selling weed
okay well hopefully he comes here uh i've got another jam to kick okay i guess let me get
oh wait do you want to hit the little thing off the end oh Oh yeah, sorry. We have a minor mind blow. It's not even a mind blow.
It's just that this is sort of
glaring at me. Oh, I want it. It's better to fucking blow my mind.
Okay, you ready? It won't.
We just hear like
20 seconds.
No, it's good. Let's do the whole minute.
Oh, that's cool. I hate words.
Yeah. Words suck
If I wanted to read, I'd go to school
That's pretty cool
So they were on Beavis and Butthead
Yeah
Next time
This is college music.
Yeah.
College music sucks.
So this was, anyway, this song was on Beavis and Butt-Ed,
which is, I find their forays into the U.S. kind of interesting,
because to your point, they were produced by Todd Rugger,
and I think it was their official Twitter account tweeted a video of them
playing on the Mickey Mouse Club recently.
Yeah, and I watched that.
It was amazing.
Yeah, now they're on Beavis and Butt-Edd, but it didn't really ever break in the U.S.,
but they would also play big festivals.
And they played on that Mickey Mouse Club.
They played She's So Young.
Yeah, which is a little problematic.
Another wonderful Love Junk song.
Love Junk was a playthrough, and I thought it was awesome.
I had the cassette.
I thought it was amazing.
Yeah, they're just great.
I love Moe, too. He was amazing. They're just great. I love Mo, too.
He's just one of the good guys.
I think the feud between
Stu Stone and Jeremy Taggart is officially over.
Is that correct?
Well, I guess we'll find out with my next election.
I'm so glad you picked this jam.
You ready?
Yes.
Hopefully the audio improves. Hold on. Bear with me.
Oh, it's a video. That's why.
The only, one of the only
diamond selling acts
according to what we've learned tonight.
Kareem just sparked one
on my deck here.
He's off camera, though.
Gotta get him a microphone one of these days.
Headphones.
Walked around my good intentions
And found that there were none
I blame my father for the wasted years
We hardly talked.
Never thought I would forget this hate.
Then a phone call made me realize I'm wrong.
And if I don't make it, know that I've loved you all along.
Just like sunny days that we ignore because we're all time and jaded.
And I hope to God I figure out what's wrong Well, this is Our Lady Peace.
4 AM is the name of the song.
I'll get to that in a second, but I'm a fan of Our Lady Peace.
And obviously I like Starseed and I like Navid and I like...
What's the bird one?
Bird Man.
I was a Smashing Pumpkins fan and I always felt this was a poppier version of Billy Corgan.
Clumsy, Superman's Dead.
But Superman's Dead, great song.
A lot of jams.
But this song, I picked this one specifically because it really talks to me now.
Where it didn't previously.
I like the song obviously. It's catchy.
It's got a great hook. But you know the lyrics
obviously when I was going back to pick songs
this was a tough song for me to listen to
even because the lyrics really spoke to me
with the recent passing of my father
and the lyrics being so poignant on
wasted years with his dad and
getting the phone call saying he might not make it.
And, you know, I feel like I had that similar sort of experience.
And I think anybody who's lost somebody, a father, a mother, somebody, God forbid that it should happen to you guys.
But I really at the risk of sounding cheesy or sentimental or, you know, I listened to this a bunch of our lady piece songs,
decided which song I was going to play,
and this one came on,
and I was just like,
taken aback,
because I forgot,
how these words were,
you know what I mean?
Not cheesy at all,
man,
I feel this,
and as far as I know,
my dad's still alive,
but I feel the exact same way,
just wasted years,
man,
that line really got me,
yeah,
honest to God,
I feel the exact fucking same way,
I think any,
any guy,
or gal, I speak from a male perspective,
but any guy or gal out there who has father issues,
this song strikes a chord, man, and I really like it.
And I totally feel like this song could have been in our movie,
Jack of All Trades.
If we had thought of it then, I could have hit up Taggart.
And Kareem and I, we respect the title, 4AM.
I think that's around the time we woke up to like 80 gunshots the other day.
Let's get into it here.
Rain
Maida.
You pronounce it right? Rain Maida.
By the way, Sammy has an interesting
history of Chantel Kriviacic.
I think we're trying to get him
to shoot on Chantel a bit.
By the way, that's not his real name.
Sorry, do you want me to...
His name is Mike, right?
No, I have it here.
His name is Michael.
Michael Maida.
He changed his name to Rain
just because it sounded better.
Toronto Mike.
And he ended up sticking with it.
Do you want more of the songs?
Here's where it gets kind of...
No, please continue and I'll turn it over.
Canadian rock band, Toronto band.
We know that Taggart was in the band.
They've sold several million albums worldwide.
Big success.
For this album, Jeremy Taggart was the drummer.
Yes.
They've won four Juno Awards.
They've won ten Much Music Video Awards.
That's the most Much Music Video Awards ever awarded to any artist or group.
Wow.
Here's something interesting.
Between 1996 and 2016, that 20-year period,
Our Lady Peace was the third best-selling Canadian band in Canada
and the ninth best-selling Canadian artist overall in Canada.
I don't have the list above that.
Okay, Tragically Hip is one, maybe.
Well, I would not.
No, I would not.
Sorry, what were the years?
Biggest Canadian bands?
Between 1996 and 2016.
And you mean in Canada, right?
No, worldwide.
Oh, worldwide.
Rush?
Now, I'm going to say that, interestingly enough,
they probably cut it off around 2016 because that's when, like,
Weeknd, Drake, Bieber, the rest of these guys start exploding onto the scene.
Any artist or group.
Oh, I just thought of Nickelback.
Nickelback is probably number one.
It's probably Nickelback and Barenaked Ladies, I would say.
Could be.
Like, in terms of worldwide sales.
Because Rush, I don't think Rush would sell a lot of units at that part of their career.
Hey, their cover is Summertime Blues.
A couple of more fun facts just to get out of here.
I like Our Lady Peace.
Real quick here.
Yeah.
Interestingly enough, in like the band's formation, Our Lady Peace.
You familiar with Our Lady Peace?
You know them, yeah.
Yeah.
in like the band's formation,
Our Lady Peace.
You familiar with Our Lady Peace?
You know them, yeah.
Yeah.
They're, you know,
their whole band's formation,
and I wonder if Tiger told you about this because I haven't listened to that episode.
Shocking.
They had replied to an advertisement
in search of musicians in Now Magazine,
Now Newspaper.
That's how the band sort of found each other the first time.
And when they had to replace new members and find new members,
they put an ad in another newspaper.
iWeekly.
Yeah, and it wasn't iWeekly that I can see here.
Okay.
But I think it was, I can't find the name of that.
Thornhill Lipper.
My point is that newspaper ads is what put this band together the way that weornhill Lipper. My point is, is that newspaper ads
is what put this band together
the way that we know it.
Well, that's common, right?
Like a lot of times
we're looking for a bassist
or we're looking for a drummer.
There you go.
So if you're out there listening,
it's worth replying to these ads.
You could end up in Our Lady Peace.
And shout out to Jeremy Taggart.
We're going to get to him.
I'm sorry, go on.
Our Lady Peace's second album,
Clumsy, which this is from.
This was released in 1997. Feels like it was yesterday. I'm sorry. Go on. Our Lady Peace's second album, Clumsy, which this is from. This was released in 1997.
Feels like it was yesterday.
Superman's dead.
Clumsy.
Right.
They toured.
They did very well.
Automatic Flowers is on there.
That was a great jam.
Automatic.
You would be quite surprised
to know
that the band
was prepared to celebrate
the 20th anniversary
of Naveed,
but that was canceled
in 2014 due to
scheduling conflicts.
In June of 2014,
speculation began that long-time drummer
Jeremy Taggart was no longer part
of the band, so perhaps some
disagreements that were going on with regards to
that tour, I'm sure we
could, if you ever have him back on the show, maybe you
could get him to spill the coffee on that.
He came on after he left Our Lady Peace. I lady piece like well after was not too well out was he on
with torrens or was it just him no they came on separately they came on separately the gentleman
who ended up playing with them uh moving forward uh was the ex-touring drummer of paramore and
treble charger so that's interesting but j Jeremy obviously made a huge contribution to Our Lady Peace
and that record is probably their most
famous record. At least that's
the one that I know the most.
I love that song, so good
job. Good choice. Honestly, I'm pleased of
all your choices. Good job, Jeremy.
You earned some good songs today.
These are great, regardless of whether they were ever on my podcast or not.
I just realized when you mentioned
Jonathan Torrance. Yes, it is Nickelback, by the way.
Nickelback.
And Barenaked Ladies.
Wow, I guessed it.
There you go.
Nailed it.
You mentioned Jonathan Torrance,
and I realize now we could be kicking out a J-Rock song,
and it would qualify.
Sure.
J-Rock would qualify as well.
J-Rock the rapper?
Absolutely.
Like the American rapper J-Rock?
No, that's his name, right?
Wait, wait, wait.
Oh, like Trailer Park, yeah.
Is it J-Rock?
Yeah, I think, yes.
J-Rock is a rapper on Trailer Park Boys.
The King is Dead?
Jay Rock with Kendrick.
You know, you guys don't know that song?
Sure.
And Dilla?
Is he involved?
I don't know.
I'm going to tap out of that one.
Okay.
So, that's a great selection for him.
Because Cream's laughing at me.
Sorry, here's another internal Twitter fun fact.
Jay Rock actually played at a Twitter office.
Are you talking about the rapper Jay Rock? Yes. Like the one I'm talking about. Yeah, like him and Jack Dorsey hugged. Like, win, win internal Twitter fun fact. J-Rock actually played at a Twitter office. Are you talking about the rapper J-Rock?
Yes.
Like the one I'm talking about.
Yeah, like him and Jack Dorsey hugged.
Like, win, win, win, win.
Fuck everything else.
J-Rock.
So what's the name of the character in Trailer Park Boys
that Jed Torrance played?
The rapper.
Okay, don't hurt yourself.
What's his name?
What's that rapper's name?
Is it J-Rock?
Are you talking about the rapper J-Rock?
But the rapper J-Rock is confusing
because there's a rapper J-Rock
from Trailer Park Boys
played by Jonathan Torn.
Is he J-period rock
or J-ROC?
Okay, so that's different.
Ours is J-A-Y rock.
Okay.
Kareem says there's lots of J-Rocks.
Okay.
Kareem's the arbiter.
Okay, so should I...
That was a great choice.
I really enjoyed that.
So we're all kind of kicking ass tonight.
I don't know how you could even fail
unless you kick out a jam
by someone who was never on the program,
which would be delightful.
Are you guys ready for my second jam?
Well, stay tuned for that.
Yeah.
Maybe I'll find a way to fuck it up.
You ready?
What,
what is that, Cam?
You can't share it.
No, I'm showing him a photo of J-Rock
performing at a Twitter event.
The one from Los Angeles.
Not the Torrens one.
It wasn't Jonathan Torrens.
Not the one from Nova Scotia.
Correct.
Here we go.
Can he get a pair of headphones and plug in?
I don't have headphones long enough.
He'd have to sit right here. I can get him. Do you want headphones? I don't have headphones long enough.
You'd have to sit right here.
I can get them.
Do you want headphones?
You'd have to sit here. All right.
Let's take his stuff.
Pronto mic off mic.
I'm just waving at Mike's children.
Do you know this song?
It's sort of sentimental.
I feel like this is like Tom Wilson or like Junk House.
Sleeping bag.
Yeah, okay, this is...
I'll let Mike say it.
Junk House.
Junk House.
With Sarah McLachlan.
I'm not familiar, but it is nice.
Hamilton's own.
It reminds me of the Lady Gaga, Bradley Cooper song.
Yeah, a little bit.
It's kind of that sugar and spice.
Stuart Rogers says these are the jams he's here for.
Okay.
Mike with a chair.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
Kareem, welcome to the VIP section.
Okay.
Got to get this guy a camera next.
Yeah.
Now he gets the full experience.
How about that?
Check one, two, one, two.
Notice the Sarah McLachlan is on this.
When was she here?
Come on, Mike.
Watch this.
One second.
All right.
Holly McNarland versus Biff Naked.
Canadian versus being requested.
I'm going to get Harley McNarland.
But tell that person Holly McNarland is not on FOTM.
No.
I can't just play something.
Well, they just heard you.
We're not doing just Canadian and alt-rock here.
But kind of.
Sort of, but not really.
Burned Out.
And I will say that not all jams tonight will be by Canadians.
I'm just going to throw that out right now.
Oh.
Burned Out Car.
This is Junk House.
Yes.
With Sarah McLachlan, of course, the lead singer of Junk House.
Oh, it's beautiful.
I love Tom Wilson's voice with Sarah McLaughlin.
I wish that I could fix my teeth.
I wish that I could wash my clothes.
I wish I had some place to go.
I have so much time for Tom Wilson.
You know what this sounds like?
The National.
Like years before The National were even a band.
I feel like this is kind of the sound.
So this song is called Burned Out Car.
And I just fucking love it.
But I've always loved it.
Like just a great, great song.
Great lyrics.
And I love Tom Wilson's voice of Sarah McLachlan.
Fine choice.
Big Palma Pasta guy, too.
Honestly, I think he loved it.
Yeah, he loved it.
In fact, he's coming back before it snows.
He's coming back,
and I think he's just coming back for the Palma Pasta.
Does he live in Hamilton?
Yeah, he's Mr. Hamilton.
Okay, so he could go to Oakville.
He's not far. You make so he could go to Oakville. Yeah, he's not far.
You make it sound like Hamilton or Oakville.
Tom Wilson, also a gritty hockey player from Washington Capitol.
And I think he's Biff, right?
From Back to the Future?
Tom Wilson, yeah.
Oh, really?
I think so.
Is that really?
I think so.
That's pretty incredible if that's true.
I briefly dated Tom Wilson's cousin.
Oh.
Now, the hockey player Tom Wilson,
but I was dating her when he got drafted.
And how was that?
Yeah, she actually showed me photos.
It's like she was at the draft.
I think the NHL draft was either in Toronto or Buffalo.
So why did she designate you for assignment?
You'll have to ask her that.
You'll have to ask her.
Touché.
Oh, my God.
You got DFA'd.
Pretty much
Yeah pretty much
I know that
Six are in draft
Tom Wilson is all about
Blackie and the Rodeo Kings
These days
Sure
It seems to be
He's all about it
But I'm longing for like
I like Junkhouse
My
I feel like they pop up
Every now and then
Like they'll play like
What's it say
Friendship Festival
Or you know
Kind of the Rib Fest
Or whatever
Well I got quite the
Friendship with Tom now The Rib Fest our rib fest this year uh candidate what no you and kareem doing it no
it was a drive-thru event so normally it's in centennial park how does how does that work you
you drive through and you say i don't know give me like 12 uh this kind of ribs and ribs after
some beans or whatever and they give it to you. Promo code Mike.
No, they're not a sponsor.
Better than the McRib Fest,
which is only available for a limited time.
Like the weird fake bone shape.
Kareem wants a Mike.
I think he wants the Mike.
Oh, right.
We can't hear you.
He's like jonesing over here.
I could have set him up for Mike.
A bit less fragrant than it was the way you were.
Yeah, you know, it's got me feeling.
No wonder I'm so chill right now.
It's all legal.
Next round is Cam.
So let me just recap.
Okay, so Cam,
ragged death,
one life to live,
cigarette dangles
by pursuit of happiness.
Sure.
Stu, Sloan,
everything you've done wrong, baby,
and Our Lady Peace is 4 a.m.
And I've gone...
I've started slow.
It's going to get faster,
but I started with Sky Diggers, I Will Give You Everything,
and Burned Out Car by Junk House.
I think that's six for six.
Are you ready to kick out a jam from one of the most controversial
Toronto-miked guests?
Oh, yes, I am. It's funny. I have like a Pavlov dog reaction to her voice.
Yeah, now did...
So this is, of course, Molly Johnson with her band.
Just give me a second here.
Alta Moda.
I'm never going to get this right.
Alta Moda.
Not to be confused with Aldo Nova.
So this is from 1987.
The song is called Julianne.
Not sure who Julianne is.
So I was telling my wife about this band and I played the song for her.
And she thinks of Molly Johnson as like purely like a jazz singer.
And she was surprised at Molly Johnson.
No, she was rocking.
The Infidels, of course.
Yeah, Infidels.
I feel like I got the Infidels and the Divinals mixed up.
Because the 100-watt balls, right?
That was the big one.
Yeah, that was a rocker.
And I feel like you played maybe when she was on,
because she sang backup for a lot of people,
including the Breeding Ground, Happy Now I Know.
Yeah, I definitely played that.
Yeah, that's a great track.
So yeah, anyway, the band,
God, now I want to call them the Divinals.
This is so confusing.
Altamoda.
Tell us the guy you're confusing it with, Aldo Nova?
Aldo Nova, which is a guitarist from Montreal.
Yeah.
Had a song, Fantasy, kind of like a 1A wonder.
And a very famous early MTV video with a guitar that shot lasers.
I like that.
And not to be confused with Spoon's Anova Heart.
Yeah.
See how it all ties together?
Which likewise not to be confused with Spoon.
Oh, yes.
The American band.
Right, right.
Or Ray Spoon.
Do you know Ray Spoon?
She's a transgendered singer-songwriter out of Alberta.
I got to catch up.
Yeah.
So anyway, this song was produced by someone named Colin Thurston,
who's producing credits included a few obscure acts,
namely David Bowie, Iggy Pop, Duran Duran, Gary Newman,
and the Human League.
By the way, complete aside,
going back to one of our previous topics,
songs you didn't know were samples.
Do you know a song, not propeller heads uh where's your head at of course who's saying that again basement jacks basement jacks yeah take two x's yeah that's basically
almost verbatim a song by gary newman called me because i only know cars yeah like go back and
listen to me.E.
and you're like,
oh my God,
this is where's your head at?
And I think there might have been
like a Pringles ad campaign
or something.
And then like the mustache guy
was like singing
and he was like,
where's your head at?
He's getting really into it
but he has like no arms.
Right.
He's a little limited.
So like this was a big song
back in the day
on the 680.
Yeah.
It wasn't even on my short list like in terms of my favorite songs by the FOTMs.
But in fact, I think the Amphidels jam might be better than this one.
But yeah, it's a no one song in the marketplace.
Does Stu Stone know this jam?
No.
No.
But he didn't know Rough Trade either.
No.
High School Confident school confidential that's okay
but molly johnson uh maybe i won't was that still to like what would be your top three most
hostile fotms great question uh they're all three molly johnson i think i don't know a second i'm
trying to think of a second like gino finnelli. No, I never, I felt very much like warm love.
Maybe we'll save the Gino chat for later,
but I felt nothing but like good times and love
from Gino and his brother.
Like I never once felt like anything negative
in that episode, but I actually,
like you could hear it in my voice
in the Molly Johnson at the beginning
because the shit started before I pressed record.
I have like that, what I would call
a nervous timber of my voice.
Like I'm scared or something.
Yeah, yeah. I forgot, was she by herself? Did she have someone my voice. Like I'm scared or something. Yeah. Yeah.
I forgot.
Was she by herself?
Did she have someone by herself?
Yeah.
And I actually hated it.
Like I hated the whole experience.
She made me feel like complete shit.
And this was what, like two summers ago now.
It was the day Aretha Franklin died.
That's right.
So I think that's a couple.
And she thought she would be promoting like a Kensington Jazz Festival.
She thought it was going to be, I don't know what she thought, but she thought maybe six
minutes on Kensington Jazz Festival. She thought it was going to be, I don't know what she thought, but she thought maybe six minutes on Kensington Jazz Festival.
And I had the audacity to open up
by asking her to talk about Aretha Franklin.
And then it all went south.
Yeah.
Well, I was going to say,
well, she, in between Alta Moda and Infidels,
she played a lot with Gordie Johnson.
Yeah.
Who I think is an F.
Was he supposed to come on or did he come on?
I booked him on Humble and Fred.
I get kind of, my lines cross. I don't think he was ever booked on Toronto Mic he come on? I booked him on Humble and Fred. I get kind of my lines crossed.
I don't think he was ever booked on Toronto Mic'd,
but we did speak about Gary.
Who was the gentleman who passed away?
Oh, Gary, the bassist.
Yes.
Who was also the big reggae guy.
The tribute to him, Molly was at,
and that was actually one of the better parts
of my conversation with Molly
is when we were talking about the loss of Gary.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That guy was like a legit dude.
Legit Queen Street dude.
But yeah, Altamoda, Julian.
I mean, not one of my favorite songs,
but Cam, to each his own.
I'm happy if you're happy.
And this is another...
You have to wake up Stu now, though.
Oh, I'm awake.
He was not impressed by Julian.
Well, I got to listen to that episode.
He doesn't know how you could ever pick that song
over one of the great Sloan songs in that catalog.
Well, that's expected of Kim.
You know who I thought that song was growing up?
Because I think they said it was 10,000 Maniacs.
Oh, we should do a show like about mistaken identity.
That's a good idea.
I actually would be really a fan of that.
It's not a bad topic.
Before we get to my next song, there was something I left out of the last Our Lady Peace bit
that I was going to tie in with the Sloan bit
about being underwhelmed and unspectacular type of thing here.
But that last song, that 4 a.m. song,
would you guess what number on the chart do you suppose that would have been in Canada?
In Canada, the Canadian mainstream chart.
Oh, Christ.
I don't know.
Am I using the Lord's name in vain?
Mike, come on.
I would say, I don't have a clue.
I don't know, four.
Peaked at number 29.
Wow.
Not four, because it's like 4 a.m.
So that's shocking to me.
I always think rock and roll gets kind of dissed on those tracks.
Usually they like Michael Buble or Diana Krall.
They like Sarah McLachlan and Katie Leigh.
But Macarena might have been number one that week.
Some nonsense.
My next song is a lesser known jam,
perhaps taking the Cam Gordon approach.
A gentleman by the name of Joseph,
Joseph Mitchell,
also known as Joseph Kim Mitchell.
Wow.
And a song that you are not able to stream
on any streaming service. I'm not able to stream on any streaming or
I'm not able to stream
above my patio here.
There's no lights being streamed
above my patio here.
Next time you
have this gentleman on your show, you should ask him
why his music is not available
on the major streamers, specifically this song.
How do you know I didn't ask him that?
I'm sure you didn't ask it because I wasn't here to remind you.
Okay.
You ready?
But this is my brother-in-law's, Adam's, favorite song by Kim Mitchell.
Here we go.
Is this Yacht Rock?
No, but it's good.
It's Doc Rock.
Doc Rock.
This is definitely Doc Rock.
Right up there with David Wilcox.
The only time that I loved I was brave
And I was out of breath every day
I was frightened of feeling this way
But I never had such peace of mind
Peace of mind I'm divine
I'm divine
I'm divine
Yes, I'm divine
I'm divine
I'm divine
I'm divine
Stu, may I ask, is this the follow-up to Patio Lanterns?
Yes.
Yes, that's right.
Alanna.
This is like part two of that song?
No. No, just the second single off that album. Oh. Alana. This is like part two of that song? No.
No, just the second single off that album.
Akimbo?
What is the name of that album?
I'm sorry, not Patio Lanterns.
This is the follow-up for Go For A Soda.
Okay, earlier album.
The album before the Patio Lanterns album.
Akimbo Amigos or something?
No, no, this is from the same album as Patio Lanterns.
Okay, so, okay, okay.
Shaking Like A Human Being.
See, my memory has this as a single after Patio Lanterns. Okay. Shaking like a human being. See, my memory has this as a single after Patio Lanterns.
Could be.
Great song.
There were six singles.
He had six singles from that album, so I don't know the order in which they came out.
That's wild.
But Joseph Kim Mitchell, born in 1952.
So Kim Mitchell is 68 years old right now.
He looks great, though, because once you shave that head,
I feel you, it pauses your aging.
If we ever do an episode on mistaken lyrics,
he's actually saying, be brave, Atlanta Loves Me.
Be brave.
A lot of people might think they're saying feeling
or something like that.
If you listen right now, tell me what you think he's saying.
Ready?
they're saying feeling
or something like that.
If you listen right now,
tell me what you think
he's saying.
Ready?
Yeah, I can see that.
It's hard to tell.
He's saying be brave.
He's saying be brave.
Remember, I'm the guy
who thought the song
was called
Go For A Soda
and he corrected me immediately.
It is Go For Soda.
Atlanta Loves Me,
great song.
I do like it.
I love it.
My brother-in-law
absolutely loves it,
and we've rocked out to this song many times.
1984 single, Go for a Soda, was his only charted song.
Wait, what did you call it?
Go for a soda, my bad.
Okay, yeah, please.
It was his only charted song on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100,
reaching number 86.
Do you know why he never had another U.S. success?
I don't
Did he blow it up?
His label went and backed Twisted Sister
Who were having great success
Wow
Probably a good choice
But I do love Kim Mitchell
He does follow me on Twitter
I tried to get him to do a cameo in my new film
I think I told you this story before on the show
I tweeted to him
Hey, because I'm a huge Kim Mitchell fan,
we wanted to use this song in our movie or go for soda.
We wanted to use one of those songs in our new movie.
And we wanted to have him actually make a cameo in the movie as himself.
Which would have been amazing.
Which would have been amazing.
So I tweeted to him.
He wrote back.
He said to get in touch with his agent slash manager,
which I attempted to do but was ghosted.
They never reached out to me. They never reached out to me.
They never reached back to me.
I wrote back to Kim again.
Yeah.
Hey, man, I'm having trouble,
but then I never heard back from him.
Missed opportunity
because we had such high respect.
You know what I'm thinking?
We still have high respect for him.
I'm thinking of Alice Cooper
in Wayne's World.
Like, I'm thinking...
Yeah, we were going to have a Kim Mitchell...
What's the movie that had Rush?
I Love You, Man.
Yes.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We were going to have
a Kim Mitchell moment. We had it all planned for him to be in this new movie that's coming out that doesn Rush? I Love You Man. We were going to have a Kim Mitchell moment.
We had it all planned for him to be in this new movie
that's coming out that doesn't have a title yet.
But it missed opportunity.
It has a title.
You're not willing to share it with the FOSSs.
In early 1985,
the song Go For Soda from the album
Akimbo Alago.
That album.
Right. Became an international hit and remains his best known song outside of canada that's true that's most successful canadian album was the follow-up which
is this album the 1986 record shaken like a human being which featured the quote hits alana loves me
easy to tame and the biggest hit of his career, Patio Lanterns. A summer staple.
Now, here is something interesting for you to know.
Atlanta Loves Me appeared on the chart coming in at number 86.
Ooh.
Oh, no, sorry.
That was the album.
Number 36.
Okay, better.
Okay, we're moving on.
One last thing about Kim Mitchell.
There is a Stu Stone connection.
Okay, I'm ready.
Kim Mitchell, beyond the tweets.
Beyond your brother-in-law being obsessed with this song.
Yes, Kim Mitchell does several voices on the PBS Kids animated series Cyberchase.
Yes.
Including Pottleville Chef Walter and various other characters.
Stu Stone also providing various voices.
On Cyberchase?
To the same series, Cyberchase.
I can tell you.
We never had sessions together,
but we were both on the show.
Okay, that is a huge fun fact.
And I can tell you,
because I work with,
one of my clients is Barb Paluskiewicz
from CDN Technologies.
She hosts a podcast called
No Tech Talk, K-N-O-W, Tech Talk.
And a recent guest of hers was Kim Mitchell,
and that very topic of cyber crimes
was discussed at length in great detail.
Wait, what is this?
Is this a cartoon?
Yes, it's a math cartoon.
Math cartoon.
Do you guys remember MathNet on PBS?
I know 321 Contact.
It's a secret.
That I remember, yeah.
MathNet, it was obviously a Dragnet parody,
but it was young people in math, teaching math.
Read All About It.
I loved Read All About It.
Get Retro Ontario in here.
He'll talk about that.
Great selection there.
That's Kim Mitchell.
He's a great FOTM.
Here's the first time two of us have kicked out a song
by the same artist.
And I'm kind of pleased to say it's the only time
this will happen.
There's some more ragged death It really is.
Yeah, I was joking. We'll be right back. You were correct, Cam.
It was raggedy.
I was joking.
Like, it's 2020.
Like, we're hearing, like, too raggedy.
Like, this is great.
I totally remember this song.
And I always preferred this to the one you kicked out, which was a great song, One Life to Live.
I always preferred Dance of the Devil.
And at the end, I got to turn it up because it
still gets my heart rate going at the end of
this song. But this
was a big hit for Ragged Death.
Totally. Do you know
these weren't her biggest
charting hits, surely?
I have no fucking clue,
Cameron. I honestly don't know. Only I come to
the table with those types of stats.
I need those sources that, you know.
The biggest hit, I think, on much music was Jamaican funk.
Right?
That was the big...
Yeah.
I will say the ragged at the Wikipedia page is a little light.
A little light on content.
No doubt.
I think we're carrying the torch.
We're the ones.
That's why we exist here. I guess we could go edit it.
I've had her on three
times to ask her all the Ragged Death
questions. I am literally
trying to capture it from the source.
Etobicoke's authority on Ragged Death.
Unrelated. I'm bundled up freezing.
Kareem is freezing. It's getting
dark. I did my zipper on.
Mike is in shorts and a t-shirt
and sandals like a real white guy yeah thanks for bringing race into it stew stone white guy winter
like there's like these random white guys you see in the dead of winter in shorts okay i will say
mike mike's still sporting the lethal uh foot suntan it was not even a suntan it looks like
i don't know i don't even know what's going on.
We'll keep that off camera,
but I have...
How are you not cold?
You're not cold?
I'm not cold at all.
Go over to Mike's Only Fans
for a better look at that.
I think the music is...
I'm listening.
Listen to me.
Here I am, Thursday night.
Tomorrow night's game seven.
Are we going to win?
Kareem says yes.
Like, it's Thursday night
I got
good buds
here on the porch
oh I thought you were
talking about Kareem's
good buds
right
okay
so I'm gonna turn this up
for the last minute
if that's okay
but I'm fucking
loving this episode
and I'm loving this song
here we go
shout out to TM who's listening and watching online.
I'm going to see a lot of Tim because he lives in Guelph and I have a home away from home now.
I've been visiting my boy in Waterloo.
I'm sure he loves that.
He loves that. on that level. Are you a rebel? Have you ever danced with the devil? I got you stuck on my realness.
Y'all raise your hands one time if you can feel this.
You live your life
on that level.
Are you a rebel?
Now you better dance
with the devil, bitch.
Oh, big finish.
I love the big finish.
One of her lyrics,
I got you stuck
on my realness.
Of course,
Mobb Deep,
Shook Ones Part 2,
which someday we'll do
a 90s rap episode.
But they start that song
with I got you
stuck off the realness
okay shout out
to Ryan Walstat
stuck off my realness
maybe he says
Ryan Walstat
covers the Raptors
for the Toronto Sun
he's an FOTM
and he actually
came by one day
just to kick out
90s hip hop
that's what we should
do one of those
someday because
I've got a lot
to offer there
this pandemic
ain't going anywhere
we just gotta
pace ourselves
and if you have
an idea and that upsets K And if you have an idea,
and that upsets Kareem, if you're going to put your beer,
don't put it in front of the camera, buddy. Come on.
Use the green chair there. You got a green chair right there.
I gave him a Great Lakes, so Kareem
is enjoying. What are you enjoying there? What is that?
Oh, that's the...
Okay, but that's the
Burst. Okay. The New England
Pale Ale IPA. That's a Burst.
Okay. Is it fair fair I've been very clear
about this I think I am in love with
Mishy Mee and I think I always have been
I'm getting that vibe
and I did talk to her today because
today I booked her on Ralph
Ben-Murgy's podcast not that kind of
rabbi that sounds like a show I'd like to be on
oh I want to put you on
Humble and Fred very badly yeah but I was waiting
for you to be able to say the name of this show.
Is this shtick now? No. Just you asking
Stu every... No, because I'm waiting. I need him to be able...
He needs to be able to say the name of his
new fucking movie. Yeah, otherwise what's the point of going on?
I need to... I keep waiting for him to tell me he can
say the name of his damn movie. Yeah, I'll go on.
We have some new Twitter Canada travel
insights. Nobody wants to talk to Cam.
No, please. We're being serious here,
Cam. Are you guys ready
for Cam Gordon's fourth
jam? Yep, for sure.
Of course, if you're just joining us, which
is impossible, these are
songs from people who have been on the show.
Not impossible
because of Periscope. Well, Kareem, I
maybe didn't know what he was walking into.
All right.
I know this song.
I think I do.
Yeah.
Yeah, this was all over.
Yeah.
This is not their
most famous song, is it?
I think,
I would say it's not their most famous
I'd say Eat My Brain
Heterosexual man
I think Tom Wilson's in the Eat My Brain video
That's right, as is Moe Berg
Oh my god
It falls apart
Oh yeah, this is the song I know
This is their biggest song
Top five.
What about Truth Unknown?
Yeah, also a big song.
Wendy Under the...
They had all sorts of jams.
I feel like He Made My Brain was a bigger hit.
Yeah, I'd say He Made My Brain
because also the video was so memorable.
The biggest Northern Pike song is
She Ain't Pretty.
She Just Looks That Way.
That's right.
But go ahead, Cam.
Yeah, so this is Odds It Fills Apart from the album bed bugs came in 1993 similar to spoons i think odds are just odds right oh good question am i wrong i feel like spoons they don't care
which one you he told me he doesn't care if it's the spoons or spoons so i actually don't have
that much to say about this song because I couldn't find too much.
So this and I know Craig Northey talked about this when he guessed it.
And that was a fairly recent.
But Stu never heard that.
Yeah, it seems like we see a running theme with a lot of these Canadian bands.
That Stu hasn't heard their episodes.
That's the running theme.
He's the Elvis of the Pandemic Friday episodes.
Never listens.
I was going to say the other running theme was label issues with a lot
of these Canadian artists.
I think Craig Northey talked about this with
Zoo Entertainment where
he shared a label with people like
Matthew Sweet, Green Jelly, and Tool.
Right.
The under toe album that kind of just went belly up
and this album was kind of in limbo.
But I mean similar
to Pursuit of Happiness,
had these weird blips of US exposure,
namely playing with Warren Zevon, right?
Like they were his backing band.
Am I imagining that?
Oh.
Or they played on an album with him or vice versa or something?
That'd be quite the imagination.
I feel like that happened.
Yeah.
So I have two total...
It's so specific.
I have two total non sequiturs about this.
So I was looking at the video.
The video for this song is not great.
But there was on YouTube.
There's three separate comments from the same user who says back in the summer of 95, I was in prison in B.C. for a short time and heard eat my brain for the first time.
My celly was a chill
celly. I guess that's when you're in prison.
Cell block. Is that what? Cell block 4.
When you were in a
celly.
It was a chill Lebanese guy. San Quentin.
So he didn't understand this song.
It was hilarious. And then
right after, another comment. First time I was aware
of the band called Odds.
Not the Odds, just Odds. I was in prison
in Mission PC,
Canada. We had a shitty little radio cemented
the concrete wall with one button that covered three
radio stations. The day after I went in my cell,
I already ate my brain by the Odds and liked the band
immediately. It was summer of 1995. At the same time
the song Lightning Crashes
was out, but it wasn't really
my taste.
No accounting for taste. And one final fun fact about odds.
This is going to be fun.
No, this is good.
This is kind of fun.
The favorite all-time ban of Gary Nyland.
Oh, the fighter with Canadians.
Yeah, Canadians and the Blackhawks.
Chris Nyland?
Gary Nyland.
Maybe I'm confused.
He played for the Blackhawks.
Who's the fighter?
Chris is the goon.
Yeah, Chris Nyland.
This is like N-Y-L-U-N.
Anyway, Gary Nyland
was in a band
when he played for the Blackhawks in the late
1980s called the Chicago
Six. They would do a cover.
This was an interesting Chicago
Blackhawks-Chicago Bears mashup
if you can believe it.
Super Bowl Shuffle.
Yeah, it was Troy Murray.
Kurt Frazier.
Referee, Kerry Frazier.
And then On Drums.
Jim McMahon. Sweetness, Walter Payton.
Wow!
Not making this up, but they would play R&B songs
and Beatles songs.
By the way, Gary Norton's favorite all-time band,
The Odds. Can I just let you know the answer to the question,
what is the biggest hit of The Odds' career?
You guys are wrong.
You ready for the biggest hit?
Sure.
Someone who's cool.
Someone who's cool.
Okay.
Just why we didn't know it.
I don't know.
Because none of us heard.
Because you had it right there.
That was a good song too.
Yeah.
Solid band.
It reached number two
on the Canadian chart
and number three
on the Canadian alternative chart.
What was the song
after Someone Who's Cool?
Oh, Make You Mad, right?
Make You Mad.
That's all from Nest.
I think Bruce McCullough
was in the video.
And again,
Bruce is all over this band
because of course
Heterosexual Man
featured members of I almost called them new kids on the block,
Kids in the Hall.
New Kids in the Hall.
So let me just let people know, if they want to hear more about The Odds,
there's a recent episode of Toronto Mic featuring Craig Northey from The Odds,
and he's also in that trans Canada Highwaymen with Moe Berg.
Can you name him?
Who wants to name him?
I can name him, but you want to try?
Moe Berg, and we've got Stephen? Who wants to name them all? I can name them all, but you want to try? Moe Berg,
and we've got Stephen Page,
ex of Bare Naked Ladies,
and then rounding things out is none other than Chris Murphy.
Supergroup.
All four of them are FOTMs.
Wow, I could have played that.
And I was going to say,
one final note.
But they don't have
any original material.
But they would play
It Falls Apart
when they did their tour
a couple years ago.
Yes, because Craig Northey
wrote it.
He'd play it.
That's how it works.
So Stephen Page plays the Stephen Page songs
of Baird and Gladiator.
Did you go to that?
I forget.
Paul McCartney plays the Paul McCartney songs
on his tour.
Right.
You got it.
This guy's got it.
I could not see like a more pinpointed like demo.
I know.
I think they went around Toronto.
Did they play Toronto?
They played in Richmond Hill, I remember.
I know they played in like Brampton at Rose Theater.
Although McCartney does play Imagine, I think, on his tour.
Does he?
Sure.
I'm still kind of upset Bare Naked Ladies,
they still play Brian Wilson, and I always feel it sounds wrong.
They should just get back together.
As I said last week, I think there'll be enough money on the table.
Totally.
There's not enough money on the table.
The next song that I chose starts with a drum fill that goes,
do you know the song, Kim?
Sure.
You do know?
You really know what song starts with?
Name that tune.
It's an FOTM.
Black Cars.
No.
Money for Nothing.
Good guess.
Money for Nothing.
Yeah, they're not FOTMs.
Are you ready for me to kick out Stew Stone's fourth jam?
And thank God,
thank the Lord or Savior
that a song from this album...
Well, speak for yourself.
A song from this album made the cut
because I was actually...
One of the songs I was praying
would make the cut.
Here it is.
You ready?
I was wrong.
Oh, okay.
I was close.
Know Your Jams.
I think the wrong song. Know'm in guitarist drunk, Phil.
I think the wrong song.
Know Your Jams.
Do you want to switch it up?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That was Awake Me was the one that, or Groovy Dead was the one that I'm thinking of.
It's so groovy when I...
Hey.
The whole album is killer.
It's a great song.
Yeah.
A moment, everybody.
Swampy Shout out to Ken O'Neill
The whole band has been over here
But shout out to Ken
Laying bricks in Sudbury
You know I thought you'd pick misogyny.
Another one of the songs appeared in the movie The Boys Club.
Yes, but this song is California.
This song is called California.
It is by Rusty.
And I cannot stress enough,
if you were to turn back the clock
20 some odd years, Cam,
myself, and a host of other
teens growing up in the Canadian
grunge era, or alternate
rock, alternative rock era,
combined with the
hip-hop era, they were sort of going on at the same time.
Rusty, two of our favorite bands
would have been Rusty and the Doughboys.
Totally.
Two great live bands.
I'm very interested in this because you and I, we obviously never knew we were coexisting in the GTA.
Same universe.
But I had such a similar experience.
This album was so key to me.
So good.
And I feel like it sort of came out of nowhere.
Still holds up, by the way.
It's great.
Oh, you're preaching to quite a bit there's so i hear like this is fluke by uh rusty and we all have the
same experience of that but we don't have the same experience i can tell by our conversations
with for example shakespeare my butt like i can see stew didn't have that uh striking a chord
with it but so it's interesting how some, you can share some bands with some people and then sometimes
it's exclusive.
We need to get you
a microphone, buddy.
I will say that
the reason why I brought up
Rusty and the Doughboys
is because that basically
is how Rusty forms
because the Doughboys...
Scott McCullough.
Yes, the Doughboys guitar player,
original lead guitarist,
is the one that formed this band with Ken.
Yeah, Ken McNeil. And Sandy Graham, bassist Jim Moore, drummer Bob Vespasiani.
Bob E.V.
But Ken McNeil, lead guy, of course,
who I always thought looked like the guy in the backseat of the car
in Wayne's World when they were singing Bohemian Rhapsody.
I always thought that.
Like forever, I thought that was him.
But the other guy's from Oz.
Oh, I actually gave you the wrong information there.
Rusty's original band was called One Free Fall,
and those were the members of that band.
When they broke up, that's when McNeil Moore Vespasiani
hooked up with former
Doughboys member Scott McCullough
to form Rusty and did the
EP. It all happened pretty fast for these guys.
Weren't they from New Brunswick?
Yeah, they ended up coming to Toronto
as they all do.
Yeah, they all do. 1994
they recorded the EP
and it blew the fuck up pretty quickly.
Wake Me would become a minor hit on Much Music.
Groovy Dead.
Oh, my God.
Groovy Dead.
Misogyny.
Misogyny, and of course, California.
Now, here's some interesting stuff real quick.
Misogyny.
The music video for Misogyny.
Canadian singer Danko Jones is in the video.
F-O-T-M, Danko Jones.
Yeah, that's why I said it.
Fluke was the band's commercial breakthrough.
California, they earned a Juno nomination,
et cetera, et cetera.
But chart-wise, Misogyny, what number?
Okay, let's go through the four big ones.
Is this the one?
Who has the director of the video?
Bruce.
Bruce. Bruce.
He directed that video for Misogyny.
Number six.
Wake Me. What number did it appear on the Canadian
Alternate Rock charts?
Number three. On the top 30, where did it place?
Number three, you're saying? I'd say 14.
Okay, the answer is zero. It did not
chart. All over Much Music.
Groovy Dead.
Groovy Dead. Where did it place in the top 30?. It did not chart. All over much music. Groovy Dead. Harpo Kershner.
Groovy Dead.
Where did it place in the top 30?
Same deal.
Number three.
17.
How about zero?
Did not chart.
California.
Where did it place on the Canadian?
That was number three.
Zero.
Again, zero.
Misogyny, the only one to chart at number three.
Now, let's shift to the Canadian mainstream charts.
Misogyny, which charted at number three on the Canadian Alternative
Rock charts. Where did that chart on
the mainstream Canada charts?
Four. Eighty-six. Zero. Did not
chart. Groovy Dead. Where did
that chart? Oh, that went
number one, buddy. Zero.
My point is, their most successful
mainstream Canadian
charted song is
California, coming in at number 12.
So the song I just played was one of my favorites, but it was also their most successful.
What have we learned here, guys?
Just like we learned from the 2016 American federal election, we learned to fuck the polls.
Fuck the polls.
They mean nothing.
Charts mean shit.
By the way, do we know...
Fuck the charts.
Has this come up on an episode, Mike, maybe the guys mentioned?
Were they a Dave Bookman
sort of discovery? Lusty?
Why did they become popular? Because they were
older guys. They became popular because when you
listen to a song like Wake Me
and you realize it's going to fucking satisfy
CanCon requirements, you're like, hook that to my
veins. Let's go! It's getting real
dark here, by the way. There's not a reason. I could get
the lights if you want. I can't see us anymore, but that's okay.
Do you want me to get the lights? I mean, it might take
too long. I can run downstairs and get the lights. No, no.
I'll turn up my screen here.
Oh, yeah. And I can give a little... Why don't you guys bring
flashlights and you just hold them up under here?
Is this your kitchen or your dining room?
Dining room. In the year
2000.
That's a pretty good tone there.
Silver silver chair. I'm impressed. That's a member of the Max. Silver silver chair. I'm impressed.
That's a member of the
Max Weinberg 7.
Tots and teens.
Remember that.
Okay, so I'm going to get
the lights, but I'm going to
start my song first, okay?
Sure.
By the way, is Sammy Cone around?
No.
He's gone.
He's walking the dog.
He had to walk the dog, yeah.
All right, I'm going to start this.
I'll be right back.
Oh.
I know this band
Yeah Have we heard this song on
Panic! Fridays already before?
Yeah, I did.
That'd have been the episode that I missed.
I think I picked it when Sammy was on.
Hello!
Oh!
Thank you. We're covered in cake from the last time I know it sounds weird, we collected in jars
Is that just the place that I wanna be?
Oh, can't you see it's a lie found in me?
Please don't make this thing up for me
The way that I wanna be
I feel like there's a...
Hey, let there be light.
Who killed John Doe? I feel like there's a real melancholy with all of Toronto Mike's picks today.
Mike, these are all good autumn songs.
We've got Skydiggers and Burned Out Cars.
Is this like a theme?
You're so right.
And I thought about it.
I think, what am I feeling?
I'm feeling a loss because my boy moved to Waterloo.
And it's affecting me.
It's almost like he's moved on to the next chapter.
This looks great.
The lighting's fantastic.
What's up, Brother Neil?
What's up, Tim?
I was pouring my heart out to you, Deuce Doan.
Sorry.
I was in this sentence.
Yeah, go ahead.
Sorry, we're on the internet.
Sorry, go on.
I was distracted by the light.
Go ahead.
Never ending white lights. Blinded by the light go ahead never ending white lights blinded by the light
save that like a deuce that's a bruce springsteen song rack up like a douche you know you're really
killing my mind blow for a future episode everybody knows that no that's not your career
i'll finish up real quick to say that even though he's moved on to the next chapter and this was the goal all along,
I feel like something's, I've been feeling lately like a missing part of my heart.
Emptiness inside.
And he's only an hour drive away.
And I feel almost embarrassed to admit this, but I feel it.
So I'm going to give you the real talk.
And this song is fucking gorgeous.
It is.
Well, I'm sure Tim can go visit your son
and give him a hug.
Shout out to Ian Service.
Drop off some homemade chili or something.
So I know that we're all biased
because we all like Sammy Cohn personally,
but I just want to say Danny Graves
has also been on Toronto Mic'd,
and he was wonderful.
He just wrote this really interesting piece for CBC.
I read this.
Very interesting.
About audio piece.
It was about
being a biracial.
So he is a black man
and a Jew
and he spoke about
that experience
and it was very interesting.
And Danny Graves,
whenever I catch him
on CBC Radio Music,
CBC Music,
they call it now,
Radio 2,
I think he does
a great freaking job
and great band.
What does he say?
A set of pipes.
Yeah, great set of pipes.
Great band.
Love catching them live.
Great guys.
And this song is my favorite song by The Watchmen.
Did he mention Little Richard in that article?
Or Sammy Davis Jr.?
Yeah, or Rod Carew.
Speaking of Rod Carew, we lost the, prior to Ricky Henderson,
the greatest face stealer in the history of MLB,
Lou Brock passed away last week.
Not the greatest of all time is Ricky Henderson.
No, Ricky is.
And also Tom Seaver.
Yeah, and they both, the batter that Tom Seaver faced the most times
in his career is Lou Brock. And the pitcher that Lou Brock faced the most times in his career is Lou Brock.
And the pitcher that Lou Brock faced the most times in his career is Tom Seaver.
But where did it chart?
It didn't.
Number four in the Canadian alternatives.
Fuck the charts, okay?
So this is the biggest hit of the Watchmen's career, by the way.
Beautiful song.
And you're right.
But I will say, I have, I think, three of my five jams are like that.
Okay.
Slower, thoughtful-like things.
But Ragged Death is not like that.
No.
And my closing jam is not like that.
So The Watchmen, wow.
Love the band.
Love them live.
And I love All Uncovered.
Again, that song holds up.
Entering our final round now.
Oh, my God.
It's happening so quickly here.
What a great night.
So here we are under the lights at Comiskey Park
in Chicago here. Let's kick out
the final Cam Gordon jam
and then he has a mind blow. We all have a mind
blow this week. Everyone's just got to do their
stew thing. I get it.
Be like stew. Okay, I'm so glad you picked
a song from this gentleman. He's a great
FOTM. Here it is.
Oh, baby.
Drop it, baby.
Fresh.
Hit it.
The symphony.
Was that Kermit?
He's a fella.
Oh, here it comes.
Let your backbone slide.
Let it slip, let the rhythm rip
While my lyrics leave my lips
Ladies and gentlemen, kids of all ages
Watch your brother, roaming on stages
Damn, raise the bell from stage to stage
Province to province, and you can't escape
Here's Radius, I'm marching, cruising, barging
Blowing away blockades, but still charging
Up the crowd while they introduce us
Says the name, they get looser, looser
Maestro, Maestro with magnitude That's longer than the lines of latitude It was like a dance that went along with this as well.
The drop the needle dance.
Oh, yeah.
You like how it bounced?
Act one and act two?
Or was it easy, does it, and does it easy?
Oh, it's like his...
His dancers.
He had dancers.
Come on.
They're also very well-dressed, too.
They had silver...
Black tuxedo.
Black tuxedo.
Black, black, black.
Oh, my God.
Do you realize, Cam, we're in the presence of two rappers?
Because not only is Stu Stone a rapper, but Kareem used to rap in the 90s.
In the 90s?
Was it in the 90s?
Yeah.
Did you ever do shows with Maestro?
Do you have any recordings that I can listen to?
Yeah, yeah, he does.
He'll dig them up.
Are they digitized?
Okay.
Oh, that's a service TMDS can do.
I'll hook you up, brother.
Talk to me about Maestro.
I was going to say, okay, so this is Maestro.
Drop the needle.
The follow-up to his debut smash.
Let your backbone slide.
Now, I feel like Maestro, certainly not in this company,
but does get categorized as a bit of a one-hit wonder,
which I think is completely unfair.
By who?
By who? By who?
By you?
By listicles I've seen on the internet.
No, no.
Honestly, guys, that is nobody I know.
Nobody says that.
Nobody says that.
Guys got hits.
Get out of here.
Fuck off.
Screw you.
I said it was unfair.
That's not true.
But I agree.
Anyway.
That's good news.
You're like when Freddie P likes, oh, a lot of people are criticizing.
Nobody's criticizing him. No, you're full of shit, Cam. Let's park that. Cam, come on. That's great news. You're like when Freddie P likes, oh, a lot of people are criticizing. Nobody's criticizing him.
No, you're full of shit, Cam.
Let's park that.
Cam, come on.
Let's park that thought.
Fucking asshole.
So this song, where do you think this song charted?
Fuck faces, come on.
Okay, let me think for a second here.
Number seven.
I need context.
These are hard questions.
Number six.
How did Let Your Backbone Slide do?
I don't have that information.
Number one.
It did well.
It did very well.
This went to number 11.
I guess knowing that Cam saying that he was a one-hit wonder
probably didn't chart.
Okay.
84.
Run the tape back.
That's not what I said.
Cam said he's a one-hit wonder.
Hold on.
I've got to run the tape back.
11, 11, 11.
Ian's service says nobody says listicles.
I agree with him on that, too.
That's fair.
That's fair.
That's true.
Listicles?
Testicles?
I work for the internet.
Anyway, the video for this song,
do you guys remember?
It sort of seemed like...
Black and white?
Are you kidding me?
The great FOTM Joel Goldberg
pretending to be Geraldo Rivera?
No, not that I'm aware of.
Isn't there somebody playing like the cello?
Yeah, it was sort of like...
Maybe an empty swimming pool or something?
Yeah, think of like a cross-up between
like De La Soul, Me, Myself, and I.
You remember that video?
Yes.
Kind of half of that
and then half like stock footage of like...
But you don't remember this?
Geraldo Rivera, his name...
This is Jay Gold wearing a mustache
and he went by the name, a different name,
but like Geraldo Rivera.
Sorry, this was in the video for Drop the Needle.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Really?
Do you remember this, Kareem?
He remembers it.
He's nodding.
Anyway, the video for this song,
and maybe you're right, won June Award Best Video.
Directed by?
1991, directed by FOTM, Joel Goldberg.
Fucking right, FOTM, Joel Goldberg.
So there you go. Unbelievable that you picked a song not only by an FOTM, but directed by an FOTM, Joel Goldberg. Fucking right, FOTM, Joel Goldberg. So there you go.
Unbelievable that you picked a song not only by an FOTM, but directed by an FOTM.
That's what I do.
And there's a cameo in this video by the great Dwight Drummond, also an FOTM.
Fantastic.
From Montego Bay, just like my recent.
Love it.
Jay Douglas is from Montego Bay.
Like the song.
Oh.
Who sang that?
Oh, it was Amazulu.
Right.
Good for you.
Was that on a listicle as well?
One Hit Wonder Maestro.
I'm doing the kawaii,
like the one.
But honestly,
where is this listicle
that says Maestro's
a one hit wonder?
Pam wrote it.
Completelyignored.com.
I swear to God.
You know,
I remember like Conducting Things.
I know you know,
but these people, Conducting Things is a big part of it. How about These Eyes? That wasNord.com. You know, I remember like conducting things. I know you know, but these people
conducting things
was a big part of it.
How about these eyes?
That was a hit.
Yeah.
Sticky eye vision.
Search without directions.
Search one o'clock,
two o'clock,
three o'clock,
rock two to beat
that I dropped
one after my hip.
Nothing at all,
which I've kicked out before.
Honest to God,
one hit, one there.
You guys are straight
out of Canada.
Private symphony.
Wait, wait,
did Kareem just
throw his headphones?
In anger. In anger at Cam's. Kareem just throw his headphones? In anger.
In anger at Kareem. Kareem, those are expensive.
Kareem's listicles.
I'm going to kick you in the listicles.
Private Symphony was like the ballad.
The ballad.
Yeah, that was sexy.
On symphony in effect.
Okay, hold on.
Here it comes.
And then we're going to the mind blow.
Someone should sample this part.
Hit it, Maestro.
Hit it.
So can I go straight into the Mind Blow?
There appears to be some listicles.
Yes, Serato.
Serato.
And I'll put these on Twitter right after this.
You don't need to.
Don't embarrass yourself.
Okay, you ready for the Mind Blow? Do you want to set it up or do you want me to just play it?
I'll just say
that...
What, that they sampled Beethoven?
Is that the mind blow?
No.
Farley Flex is also
an FOTM, so I just want to share that.
I'm flustered.
You guys are being bad.
The lights are on here at Exhibition Stadium.
The name of this song, Drop the Needle,
was actually sampled from
a kind of shitty CanCon
song of the 1980s.
But a very popular CanCon song.
I remember it. Here we go.
Drop the Needle!
Wow.
Now my mind is blown.
Like, this is a good mind blow.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, you've come a long way.
You redeemed yourself.
I don't remember this song, but that's definitely Drop the Needle.
When you get to the chorus, you'll know the song.
It's a big hit.
Don't forest get to the end.
Is this like Platinum Blonde or something?
I was listening to this last night.
Good guess, yeah.
It's like being in a time machine.
April Wine?
You're getting closer.
Bright Coast.
Right.
It's not Boulevard.
Haywire, according to Brother Neil.
Yeah.
How did Stu get that?
Brother Neil with the assists.
Wait. Wait for the chorus
Sounds like Diet Bon Jovi
Yeah
He's a bit too into the music
Bowen's older brother I think
Okay here's the chorus
Oh yeah I know this song
Yeah Yeah Oh, yeah. I know this song.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's funny.
Like, Maestro samples the first second and a half of this song,
dropped the needle,
and also, like, inspires a dance from the fucking intro of a Haywire song.
Haywire was from PEI, if you could believe it.
I didn't know that.
There you go.
Fun fact.
I believe I do that. Damn. You're doing much better now.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?
After that week off did him well.
He charged the batteries.
Absolutely.
I was at a three,
now I'm at like a seven and a half.
Big testosterone dump.
All those listicles have done him well.
He emptied out his listicles.
Yeah.
Did some blood dumping.
All that canoodling.
Yeah.
You feeling good, Cam? Yeah, I feel better. Shout out to Fitzy. Yeah. With some blood doping. All that canoodling. Yeah. You feeling good, Cam?
Yeah, I feel better.
Shout out to Fitzy.
Yeah.
Okay.
Same producer as Platinum Blonde,
according to Brother Neil,
who's just feeding me
with the fun facts.
Okay, probably not.
Yeah, ask him what else
do we know about Haywire?
Yeah, tell us about Haywire, Neil.
They also sing this song,
Bad, Bad Boy.
Bad, Bad Boy.
You remember that?
Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad Boy.
I'm walking in line.
That's Gloria Esteban. Da, da, da, da, da, da bad boy. I'm walking in line. That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban.
That's Gloria Esteban. That's Gloria Este Let's hear a bit of walking in line and then we'll tie a bow. You mean standing in line?
Standing in line.
I call walking in line.
All right.
Shout out to Johnny Cash.
Happy to serve you.
Thank you.
Wow, that's quite a departure from the sound of the last song.
It's a bit more like the box.
This video is unintentionally hilarious too.
Just like terrible 80s computer graphics. This video is unintentionally hilarious, too.
Just like terrible 80s computer graphics.
And the guy's wearing, I think, a Fido Dido t-shirt.
Well, I have the video here.
Let me see.
Oh, no, I actually don't have the video here.
This is from the best of Haywire.
This is a much better song.
Yeah.
This also is a very memorable chorus.
Like, the production's much better. Yeah. This was a big, this is a much better song. Yeah. This also is a very memorable chorus. Like the production's much better.
Yeah.
This was a big,
this is a pretty big band.
I'm really,
I'm holding out hope for a good chorus.
It's our post-lover boy.
Late 80s can-con.
Honeymoon Suite, maybe?
Yes. Yeah.
Frozen Ghost. Oh, then you get to get into alias and sheriff and there's a whole wise plot episode about it i don't remember this one as much i kind of like dance desire better
but anyway that's haywire anyway sampled by maestro on drop the needle nice job camberly
there you go camberly that famous one hit famous one-hit wonder, Maestro.
I liked it. Please don't call
me one-hit wonder. Okay, I'm excited to
play this song. Okay.
Well,
this is a
song by a friend of
Toronto Mike. FOTM.
An FOTM.
And this is a song that we just can't
get enough of.
It was worth the wait you ready
sure
everyone just satisfied
with this one And then we call her a knight
She crawls on sight
Skin is cold, she's white
She's a dark angel with dark glasses
Dark shadows and a lot of false lashes
Hey! It's so good, Stu.
Like, it sounds fresh in my headphones.
I love it.
Holy smokes.
You know, there's a real Mr. Saturday Night kind of vibe with this family
because Gino Vanelli, the singer of this song, Black Cars, Gino Vanelli,
pretty timeless Canadian hit song.
Still holds up.
85, I think.
This is produced with his brothers, Joe and Ross.
It's like the Vanelli family
not getting the credit that their brother Gino
takes all the credit.
Gino had the hair and the chest hair.
Gorgeous.
Just a gorgeous man.
Gino was the drummer of the family.
Ended up becoming the front man.
Montreal guy.
Yeah.
He sort of had a Neil Diamond vibe at times.
Similar look.
And remember, Cam Gordon's dad fucking hates I Just Want to Stop.
That's right.
Gino Vadelli was nominated for the 1986 Juno Award for Male Vocalist of the Year,
an award he won in 1979.
Him and his brother Joe won the 1986 Juno for the Recording Engineer of the Year
for Black Cars, which reached number 42 in the United States,
number four in Canada.
Big hit in Canada. Gino in Canada. Big hit in Canada.
Gino Vannelli.
Big hit in Canada.
Born in 1952.
Same age as Kim Mitchell.
Gino Vannelli, 68 years old.
He looks great for his age.
Canadian rock singer, songwriter, several hit songs.
Of course, I Just Wanna Stop.
As heard on the Yacht Rock.
Wild Horses, which came after this one in 87, which I really enjoy.
Big hit. Vannelli and his brother Joe, they moved after this one in 87, which I really enjoy. Big hit.
Vanelli and his brother Joe, they moved to Los Angeles in the early 70s to get famous.
It worked out for them.
They ended up chasing after Herb Alpert to get his demo to him.
They were chased by security guards.
Can I ask you, Stu, straight up?
I'm looking you in the eyes right now.
I didn't get this from your episode.
But did you ever listen to the Gino Van Alley episode?
I did, yes.
I did.
That's one of the episodes I did listen to.
Okay, good.
That's a nice listen.
But I will say that quite a story.
These guys really went above and beyond
to get their demo in the hands of Herb Alpert,
whose music, for people who don't know,
Biggie, Biggie, Biggie, Can't You See Hypnotize is a sample of Herb Alpert, who now has a chain of restaurants, jazz clubs, and whatnot.
Anyway, Alpert signed Vanelli and released his debut album, Crazy Life, in the summer of 73.
In 2008, Vanelli became a symbol of sorts for the National Basketball Association Championship,
which was won by the Boston Celtics.
After each blowout victory during the 2008 season,
the video crew at the TD Garden played a clip from Dick Clark's American Bandstand
that featured a bearded disco dance clad in a Gino Vanelli t-shirt.
Right.
The tradition became known in Boston as Gino Time.
And Gino t-shirts became common. I asked Gino about this Geno t-shirts became common at Celtics games.
So hopefully it will not be Geno time for game seven.
Fuck the Celtics.
Raptors in seven.
Yeah!
Yes.
Tragically, on June 25th, 2019,
Geno Vanelli was one of the hundreds of artists
whose material was reportedly destroyed in the 2008 Universal Backlot Fire.
The masters of Gino Vanelli's early works, Gonzo, Dunzo.
Black Cars, of course, as I said, went to number four in Canada,
number 42 in the United States.
That's probably the most famous
Toronto Mike episode is the Gino
Vanelli episode or the one most mentioned.
Molly one and then Gino two.
Both we've heard tonight.
And great song
Gino Vanelli. I was going to say Mike
what were Gino's precise
words about the sixth time you asked
him to do black where he kind of snapped at you.
Can we get off black cars already?
Yeah.
And he goes, you're like my parish priest.
Yeah, and then like his brother, like, who is it, Ray?
You're cackling in the background.
Ross.
Let's move on from black cars, can we?
And let's blow some minds.
Ooh.
All right.
This guy should be an FOTM.
Why isn't he an FOTM?
Save it.
Let someone question that.
Gord's gold.
Gord's gold. Back in your satin dress In a room where you do
What you don't confess
Sundown
Why does this tie in with our last artist, you might wonder?
Because our last artist was passed on by the record label
that eventually signed,
that put out this record,
which went to number one on the U.S. pop chart.
This is Gordon Lightfoot.
Right.
In Canada, this song topped the Canadian charts at number one for five consecutive weeks.
Great song.
The same day that it reached the number one song in the United States.
Big hit.
Big hit.
Gordon Lightfoot's Sundown.
But you might be saying,
why is this a mind blow?
Yeah, what does this have to do with Gino?
What does this have to do with Gino Vannelli?
That's pretty loosely tied to Gino.
Well, it's a bit of a reach,
but I had to blow some minds
because there is a guy who's been a guest
of the Toronto Mike show
that has covered this song.
Oh, I know.
It's the hip-hop song.
Close.
Is it classified?
Close. Let's listen to it.
Oh!
Oh, I remember it.
Okay, I remember.
Yes.
I played this for Monica.
Okay, this is good.
Pretty dedicated version.
It gets better.
Wow. She been looking like a queen in a sailor's dream. And she don't always say what she really means.
Sometimes I think it's a shame.
So this is a cover that was done for a CBC production
that this was never actually used for anything,
but it was recorded with the intent of being used for some CBC production.
Was there another hip-hop song that sampled this?
Is that what I'm thinking of?
This was an actual cover.
All the lyrics are the same.
A little reinterpretation.
I literally had
lost my voice before going in there,
so it's a very hoarse performance.
But still quite good.
You sound like CircleCircleDotDotGuy.
Yes.
I can't believe, like, Stu, we know him from all these different realms or whatever.
There's Stu, he's a great director, this and that and the other.
It's like a five-tool talent.
Honest to God.
A Raul Mondesi.
Sure.
Great drawing arm.
The Robbie Alomar of podcast guests.
Like, I don't even know where to start when I describe what does Stu do?
Good harmonies here.
What doesn't he do?
Okay.
I'm winning when I'm losing again.
It's like the Beach Boys there.
Holy shit.
You need to get, who are the wrestling guys you have in?
The watch guy?
Oh, okay.
The wrestling guys.
Yeah.
Christ, I should know.
Wei Ting.
I'm going to say, yeah.
Wei Ting and John. Christ, he wrestling guys. Yeah, there's... Christ, I should know. Wei Ting. I'm going to say... Wei Ting and John... Christ, he's great.
I was going to say, you know,
maybe on Humble and...
You can go on Humble.
You should have those guys in
to talk to Stu about his wrestling career.
I feel like we've...
I would do it.
His actual...
Like, what was the league?
Yeah, yeah.
I totally haven't even explored
the wrestling career yet.
We'll get there.
We'll get there.
It's amazing.
The family stone,
like the dastardly...
For all your protégés. It's amazing. The family stone, like the dastardly for all your protégés is disgusting.
Why did CBC want that? You don't remember? There was like a
great Canadian song, like an American Idol
type of thing that they were doing on CBC
that year. Okay, maybe
I do remember a top 100.
They were looking for people to come on the
show that were... But why did they
use it? They didn't select us.
Someone else.
They used someone else's thing.
They used Elwood's.
Yeah, maybe.
But there you go.
That's really good.
I went to great lengths to blow your mind.
But that was a friend of, that is an FOTM, Stu Stone.
And sorry, what year?
One more time.
This is probably like nine years ago.
Okay.
Ten years ago.
But Eli Rise, the guy that was commenting earlier,
produced the track with his brother James Rise.
So there you go.
You work some heavyweights, decisive,
and you work with some big names.
Sorry, can I ask one rustic question?
Kareem and I actually had a mixtape in the 90s.
I believe it.
We'll get it.
Ebony and Ivory.
Who was it you called?
Was it Cole Cabana you called a piece of shit?
Yeah, he was on our... Like in a promo of shit Yeah he was on our He was on our
Like in a promo
Yes
He was on our live stream
He was on our live stream last week
Cole Cabana was
Yes
Oh wow
He heard Cam wasn't gonna be there
He said I'm in
Yeah you're coming in
Okay guys so
So we're working
My jams okay
And I almost want to say an apology
To one of my favorite bands of all time
Because I actually did not choose
A lowest of the low song
And I almost chose Bleed a Lowest of the Low song.
And I almost chose Bleed a Little Wild tonight.
And then I thought,
I play so much Lowest of the Low on this show.
Just do something different.
So who's missing before we get into this?
So we got No Bare Naked Ladies.
Oh yeah, wait a minute.
We did kick out Bare Naked Ladies last week.
No 5440.
No 5440, No Bare Naked Ladies.
No Biff Naked. Yeah, No Biff Narenaked Ladies. No Biff Naked.
Oh my God.
I almost put Biff Naked Daddy's Getting Married.
Yeah, which is a great song.
I almost put Sass Jordan Tell Somebody.
Tell somebody.
No one picked Five Long Years from Colin James.
That's a big fucking jam right there.
No one picked any of Kareem's songs.
He's technically not an FOTM. He's never been on the mic.
We got to fix that.
All right.
Do you want to hear my final jam?
And I have a little mind blow there, but it's not a mind blow at all.
But it's just something I'm going to tag on.
Are you ready?
Sure.
This is Canadian?
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
Ha ha.
Rhyme animal. Rhyme animal. Okay, so you're like Mike.
What's the deal?
This is not from It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back.
This is the anthrax.
Sure.
And public enemy.
Great version.
Got a lot of play on MTV, that's for sure.
I had a lot of time.
Scott Ian service.
Oh, yes.
Scott Ian, yeah,, yes. Scott Ian.
Yeah, big deal in this jam.
Mike Scott.
From the Astros.
With Nolan Ryan.
Cheater.
Big cheater.
Okay, so.
Yeah, I wanted to choose a Public Enemy song because Chuck D's an FOTM.
And it's hard to choose a Public Enemy song.
But we played Fight the Power.
You seem to pick Public Enemy songs weekly.
Do I?
I played Fight the Power at the protest.
Last week you played Instrumental
that turned into Justify My Love.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two weeks ago, I guess.
I played a song from Valley of the Jeep Beats
by Terminator X, Juvenile Delinquents.
So, Stu, when you...
Not quite Aerosmith and Run DMC.
No, they came first.
No, I'm saying this is like quite a departure from...
This is hard, man.
This got people's attention.
Oh, it's hard.
Say without this, there's no Raggeda.
Because remember, the origin of this, of course,
is that there's a lyric in this song
where he says,
Run DMC first said a DJ could be a band, and he goes, all the origin of this of course is that there's a lyric in uh this song where he says uh run dmc
for said a dj could be a band and he goes uh beats beat is for anthrax and ll as well hell rap no rap
is for anthrax still they could rock well like their name dropped in this song and i think they
picked up on it i had that ep it was called attack of the killer yeah yeah and this was not to be
confused with wu-tang clan right right also had Attack of the Killer Beasts right
so before they
because Public Enemy
did put this on
don't tell me
Apocalypse
no
we're not going to tell you
don't worry
Apocalypse 91
The Enemy Strikes Black
I believe that has
this song on it
but I had this from the
great album cover on that
yeah
and that has like stuff
like One Million Bottle Bags
and By the Time I Get to Arizona
and a lot of
and Can't Trust It which I want to Arizona, and a lot of good stuff.
And Can't Trust It, which I want to shout out as a great public enemy song.
I can't trust it.
Anyway, here I am to say I'm going to let this wrap up,
and then I'll just give you a taste of the original if you don't know it.
Is that your mind blow, the original?
No, it's not a mind blow.
It's the original, yeah.
Wow.
It can't all be stew stone, okay?
I give up.
Here to trouble get wicked. Nice. Here to trouble get wicked. Here to come and get wicked.
Nice.
That's a famous line.
Yeah, I love this outro.
And that's from
Welcome to the Teardome,
has it, right?
Was Ice Cube Wicked after this?
Wicked was a song from the Ice Cube.
Death Certificate, I think.
Alright. I did it all for the nookie. The nookie. was a song from the Ice Cube. Death Certificate, I think. All right.
I did it all for the nookie.
The nookie.
The nookie.
You can take that cookie.
Too black.
Too strong.
Yo, Chuck.
These honey drippers
are still front on us.
Don't know we can do this
because we always knew this.
Yeah, boys.
Face.
How low can you go?
Death row.
The original.
Once again, that gives the incredible.
So pre-anthrax.
Public enemy number one.
So cutting room floor.
I mean, obviously, there's no spoon songs kicked out.
I'm trying to think of any obvious glaring omissions.
And nobody kicked out.
We talked about Bare Naked Ladies was missed.
Bare Naked Ladies.
Mitsu not mentioned?
Not at FFTM
although Steve Anthony
did tell quite the story
about Mitsu.
Has Ian Blurton
ever been omission?
Nope.
Never.
Okay.
So, you know,
nobody kicked out
a Splashin' Boots song.
I wanted to.
No Fred Penner?
No Fred Penner, right?
Murray McLaughlin?
Murray McLaughlin
you could have kicked out. There's a lot oflin. You could have kicked out.
There's a lot of good stuff you could have kicked out by Murray.
I wouldn't kick him out of my bed.
Here, let me quickly
name drop.
Here's some other myths.
Let's run them down.
I mentioned Colin James,
5440, Biff Naked,
Shad. Nobody kicked out of Shad Jam.
The real Statics.
You could have picked it.
Claire or Body Count.
A record Body Count would have been great.
Shaved Head.
Joy Drop.
Danko Jones.
Somehow Lowest of the Low was missed,
even though that's one of my favorite albums of all time.
But we are going to play Lowest of the Low on the way out.
USS.
Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker.
The Too Contemporary.
Jeff Healy Band would have qualified.
What did I do?
What did I say?
James B.
Played Lollapalooza.
You could have kicked out an acid trip jam, of course.
Danny O.
M. Greiner.
Justin Rutledge would have qualified.
Huxley Workman.
Huxley Workman was overlooked somehow.
He's got some great jams.
We did play the Cigarette song, like his most famous.
I always think Striptease might be the most famous.
But anyway, Northern Pikes.
That's another big band we could have played.
We could have played Teen Land or something like that.
Things they do for money.
Yeah, absolutely.
Here's some lows to the low, just so we can say we did it.
Thank you, Kareem, for dropping by, buddy.
Yes, Kareem, the man.
Next time, bring more.
Bring more weed for Stuart Stone.
I think that's what he means.
Cam Gordon, welcome back.
I can chase those perks with the weed. Don't leave us
again. We need you. We'll talk
about next week when we record, but we need to
record with you next week. Fabulous.
Stu Stone, buddy.
Multi-talented freak. I know.
It's crazy. I never realized it until I
started becoming friends with you, Mike.
You have brought out the best in me. I was in a real lull
in my life, and you've
lit a fire under my tuchus,
and now I'm ready to take over the world with my talents,
along with my buddies, Mike and Cam,
specifically on Pandemic Thursday nights.
I just can't wait till we get invited to make a cameo
on a Stewstone movie set.
I know.
That'll be the moment of arrival.
Sooner than later, my friend.
Sooner than later.
What are you doing tonight?
What are you doing tonight?
Tonight, I'm in a rush to get the fuck out of here.
And that brings us to the end of our 719th show.
You can follow me on Twitter.
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Stu is at Stu Stone.
Cam is at Cam underscore Gordon.
Kareem is in the Yacht Rock group with me on Facebook.
Kareem, let me know if you're on Twitter.
I need to follow you on Twitter.
He's in some select subreddits.
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Every day.
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You starting to like the song, Stu?
I love it.
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