Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Halloweed 2022: Toronto Mike'd #1140

Episode Date: October 28, 2022

In this 1140th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike is joined by Mark Hebscher, Andy Palalas from Canna Cabana and Kanada Kev as they celebrate Halloweed 2022 with good tunes, good conversation and good weed under the stars in the TMDS backyard studio. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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Guaranteed. Joining me today for this very special Halloween 2022 episode of Toronto Mic'd is Mark Hebbshire, Andy Palalis, and Canada Kev. Welcome everybody. Hello. Oh, hey there. Greetings. Good to see you, Hebbsy man. I'm going to see you again tomorrow morning for Hebsey on sports. Are you going to just sleep over here tonight?

You're here late on a Thursday night. We record in Friday morning. You're going to just stay the night. I, it depends. That's what happens on this show. Okay. It depends how it goes.

Okay. So Hebsey man, we got, I got some questions for you in a moment, but sitting beside you, what is your current title over there at Canada Cabana, Mr. Andy Palalas? My current title? I'm the Chief Revenue Officer at Hightide, but really, I just sell weed, Mike.

You sell weed. This episode is going to be, I got some Halloween appropriate jams, and I'm going to kind of kick out and put in the background. First, let's say hello to Canada Kev. You were with us last time we all got together in the backyard. Yes, I was. How are you doing, Kev? Doing great.

Doing great. And you brought the cannabis flag. For sure. I think it should be a permanent fixture at these episodes. Do you only do backyard episodes for cannabis-related guests? Well, because you can't smoke in the house. Well, I see. I understand. I feel privileged. It is November. Well, almost November now.

Is it too cold for you? No, this is great. This is wonderful. I would be outside smoking a J anyway, so we're okay. We're just on air. Canadians know how to deal with the cannabis and the cold. That's right. Yeah, so I guess I should tell the listenership that we're in the backyard. I haven't been in the backyard in a while, and it's a little cool, but yeah, we can smoke back here. We're going to talk weed. We're going to talk sports. We're going to catch up. So much ground to cover, but I think this is a good place to start. Andy, remember TMLXX. All of us were at TMLXX. Well, Andy, you weren't actually there physically, but you did

In spirit. In spirit, you were there. Shout out to Halloween. You sent over, donated, gave a large Canna Cabana gift pack to a winner of one of our contests. It was a good one. I hope they enjoyed it too. Well, here, you ready for this? And Kev, you might remember this. You might remember this. The winner of that gift pack from Canna Cabana was a young woman named Amber Morley.

Amber Morley, congratulations. I hope you enjoyed your pack. Yes, but there's more congratulations because Amber Morley just won this election we had on Monday. She's now a city councilor, a Toronto city councilor. I'm sure she gave away the lead there.

You totally buried the lead there. I'm sure she gave away all that paraphernalia. No, no, here's the lead. The lead is, what elected official, okay, was the winner of the Canna Cabana Prize Pack at TMLXX? And then people are going to go, oh, wait a second.

That's all the elected officials. Josh Matlin. Who was it? That's great, Mike. That's fantastic. Amber won that. Diane Sacks, maybe? Yeah, Diane Sacks.

There you go. But the fact that Amber won it, that's hysterical. Good for her. Congratulations, Amber. Come to Canna Cabana any time. Oh, she loved my weight. You should see the text I got from her. She loved her Canna Cabana prize pack. So happy to hear.

Thank you for that. You can tell at CMLXX that when that prize pack was announced, the crowd kind of gasped. Not gasped, like in shock. They gasped like, I want that. Yeah. It really stepped up the game for the competition. I think that's the reason a lot of people came to the event.

Nothing against your guests or all that. Chance to win. It's like winning the 50-50 draw. That's it. Yeah, you know, and I didn't get a vote. I would have given Hebsey the vote for best mind blow in that mind blow competition. That was nothing. I was on the spot for that one. The Jimmy Page one competition. That was nothing. I was always on the spot for that one.

The Jimmy Page one, you mean? Yeah. That was hysterical. You could pass for Jimmy Page. Takes a hunk of the hair, sticks it like that. It's up with Jimmy Page. It is. Andy, let's start with, I mean, so much ground I want to cover,

but maybe I'll start a jam and just bring her down here. So I was telling, before you got here, I was telling Canada Kev and I was telling Hebsey that these songs all have something to do with Halloween. Here's just one to get us warmed up. It's astounding. Time is fleeting. Madness takes its toll. But listen closely.

Not for very much longer. I've got to keep control. I remember doing a time war. Drinking Now the party can start. Is this a good jam? That's the best Halloween song. Because everybody gets up and dances.

Totally. Most people don't know the dance. It's sort of like the Blue Jays seventh inning stretch. Like, you know, okay, which arms am I doing? Both arms. But with this song, it's like, it's just, let's put it up, Mike. It's great. It's just tells you. put it up, Mike. It's great. But it tells you.

Jump to the left. To the left. And then a step to the right. So you can kind of fake it. Put your hands on your hips. Everybody can do it. And bring your knees in tight. And then do the pelvic thrust.

Every kid can do it. Your cat can do it. It's great. And then everybody puts their hands up at the L.A. That's where the, I like it. But it's true. It's great. It's like, their hands up at the L.A. That's where the... I like it. But it's true. It's great.

It should be the seventh inning stretch song. It should be at every Blue Jay game. It's like a hipper YMCA. Way hipper. Way hipper. Because you know why? The movie was just so good. I see.

But I remember in school in the 80s when they still had dances. Wait, they don't have dances anymore? I don't know. Do they? Did you do the thrust? You're just not invited anymore. Oh, yeah. Everybody would know that shit.

Nice. And this would get people dancing. Right. And just with all the other 80s music. Weddings, bar mitzvahs, what are you talking about? This is the best. You can't not tap your feet at least to this song. We're leading with our best.

This is great here. Did you ever go to the Fox Theater to see it like in one of those midnight showings? Oh, were they toast? Back in the day? Not the Fox. We used to go to the one on the Danforth. The Danforth Theater.

Yeah, and you got to throw toast. Oh, man, the whole deal, man. You have to wear your raincoats, the toilet paper, everything. It was hysterical. It was a Friday night. It sounds like a real trip. Oh, it was great.

They have to build like a stage in front of the screen sometimes so people can go up. You guys all went to the same party in the 80s. Is that what I'm hearing? I don't really know what we're talking about. He's learning. That was very rad. We had all the fun in the 80s. I see.

It's all gone. It's all gone. This would have been before that. Oh, yeah. This was late 70s, but it's lived on for years because of this. Well, they must be still doing it somewhere. Oh, yeah. This was late 70s, but it lived on for years because of this. Well, they must be still doing it somewhere. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Well, where are they doing it nearby? Because we've got to get Andy to one of these shows. Sounds like it's happening right here,

right now, Mike. Well, that's it. We just need a movie theater to bring back a screening of Rocky Horror Picture Show. There you go. That would be good.

Dan Jeffery. But everybody would have to be really high there. I don't know where you guys are. That's how it used to be done, man. That was like going to Laser Floyd and Laser Zeppelin. That was a setup. I don't know where you got that. That's how it used to be done, man.

That was like going to Laser Floyd and Laser Zeppelin. That was a setup. You were teeing me up on that one. He's teeing you up on that one, Andy. Like what kind of ditch weed were people smoking when they went to see it originally in the 70s and 80s? Think about that. Undoubtedly.

Well, on that note, Dan Jeffrey writes in, after you guys sample all that can of cabana, Hebsey might have to spend the night and do Hebsey on sports from here. So Dan Jeffrey thinks that you might have to spend the night. I'm not going to be spending the night. Last thing I need, spending the night with you and your wife and your seven kids. In the middle of the night, I'll be fine. I'll be okay.

All right, now I'm going to crack open a beer. Didn't I have a beer here? Oh, I moved it. Okay, I'm going to crack open a beer. What? Didn't I have a beer here? Oh, I moved it. Okay. I'm just cracking open a Great Lakes beer because they're proud sponsors of the show as well. And I'm looking forward to this time with you guys.

Yeah. Crack one open if you like. And when we run out, I'll run to the fridge and get more. So. This is the best part of the show. Actually, the best part of the show is leaving with a lasagna.

I have a lasagna for each of you. That's three lasagnas. I gave one away to this gentleman earlier today. We had a guess who deep dive. I only fit four lasagnas in my freezer. I'm depleting my stock. You're all leaving here with a Palma Pasta lasagna. Really, it's amazing.

Last show, I talked a lot about how much I like Palma Pasta. I'm going to do it again for another five seconds. I really like Palma Pasta and I'm going to do it again for another five seconds. I really like Palma pasta. I may eat half the frozen lasagna on the way back home. And go see a dentist. I had a nice conversation at TMLXX with the head of Palma pasta. Oh, Anthony. Yes, he was very nice.

The Picucci gentleman. Anthony. It's through and through. So where do they sell these Palma pastas? Because they're not at Metro. At their factory. At their store. You've got to go to the store.

Four locations. We have to go to the store. Four locations. We have to look for them. I knew when there was one. Now there's four. It's unbelievable. In fact, let me promote TMLX11, which is the 11th Toronto Mic Listener Experience. It's going to be the first Saturday of December. I think that's the third.

And it's going to be at noon at Palma's Kitchen. That's where we're all collecting. We're going to drink GLB and eat Palma Pasta. And you're all invited, as you know. And yeah, they have three locations in Mississauga and one in Oakville. Of all the dates, did you pick that date? Why, you're not around? I'm in Pinehurst, North Carolina. Do they have a Palma? Cancel your plans.

Do they have a Palma Pasta? No. Do they have a Palma Pasta in Pinehurst? No. A Palma Pasta in Pinehurst would be perfect. What are you doing there? The alliteration is crazy. In Pinehurst, North Carolina? Yeah. Golfing? What else is there to do in Pinehurst, North Carolina? be perfect. What are you doing there? The alliteration is crazy. In Piners, North Carolina? Yeah. Golfing. What else is there to do in Piners, North Carolina? Golfing. There's nine 18-hole golf courses at Piners.

You know that. At the resort, nine of them. Okay? And a nine-hole short course. Okay. You know, Hebsies live in the life. Hey, I have some great questions for you, Mr. Hebsher, but I want to start with Andy Palalas.

My dad is Mr. Hebbshire. Whenever you say that, I look for my dad, right? Shout out to Hebbshire's dad. Is the show called Mr. Hebbshire on sports? Does your dad smoke weed? No, he takes gummies. I told you that. Okay.

I told you I'm with my late mother with the gummies. Oh, right. Yeah, you're right. You did tell that story on Hebbshire on sports. Yeah. Mike, just before you get started, I got to did tell that story on Hebsey on Sports. Yeah. Mike, just before you get started, I got to ask, because last time I was on the show was the first time you ever enjoyed cannabis, to my knowledge.

Yeah. Right? I've had it, yes. Have you had it since? Yes. Regularly? In fact. Every day.

Those are everyday eyes. In fact, Canada Kev, you were with me when we were smoking up at Worldwide Concert. Black Crows. It was so good, I can't remember. Yeah. The Black Crows. In fact, Canada Kev, you were with me when we were smoking up at a worldwide concert. Black Crows. It was so good, I can't remember. Yeah. The Black Crows. We all got high at the Black Crows concert with Canada Kev and O'Neal.

I don't know anybody who likes music more than you do, Mike. Well, except the guy to your right and maybe the guy to your left. Maybe have Z and Kevin. I mean, we just met. We just became friends. Oh, man. But introducing you to cannabis felt like a milestone. So I'm glad you kept going.

Yes, Dewstone passed me a joint, and yeah, I was happy to partake. Nice. Absolutely. And I've been the gummies, too. I've got them inside. Oh, what kind of gummies? I should run and grab them for you. Yeah.

Do you remember the name? Do you remember the brand? I'll show you in a minute. Okay. I'd love to see it. Can't remember any of that stuff. It's high right now. But tell us,

what's shaking at Canna Cabana? Give us a Canna Cabana update. Man, I mean, when was the last time I was here? It was 420, wasn't it? Yeah, it was around there. I think it was the 420 show. Yeah, just shortly after 420,

we gave away a car. That was a lot of fun. What kind of car? It was a Prius. Yeah, we gave away a Prius. Oh, not a toy car, like a real car. It was a real car.

And we got another car that we're going to be giving away this year. I got to tell you, the Prius was cool because Priuses are cool. But what we gave away a Prius. Oh, not a toy car, like a real car. It was a real car. And we got another car that we're going to be giving away this year. I got to tell you, the Prius was cool because Priuses are cool. But what we're giving away this year is going to be crazy. I think we'll be announcing it in the next few weeks. So keep an eye on that. Wow. Because you're going to want to win it.

And guess what, Mike? Yeah. You're a Cabana Club member, aren't you? Yeah. Because it's free to join. And you just came to the store and signed up very simply and got the best price on cannabis. And you're automatically entered to win that car in 2023. Hey, here's a bonus with that car too.

Unlike our FOTM Brian Dunn, who won a car on Price is Right. Yeah, we got this story last week. You don't get the screw job that he got in terms of winning a car from Canada Cabana. There are no worries with that. You get the car and you get to operate it with no heavy debt attached to it. I appreciate that. Beautiful. Yeah, man, it was a really fun giveaway, and we're going to be doing it again this year. It went really well.

We got to do a fun photo shoot and stuff. It was a totally new experience for me, so I enjoyed that. We've recently opened up our 140th store. I was going to ask you, because I'm still saying over 100. Yeah, 140. Yeah, we're getting close to 150. Can you get one in Elliott Lake? Elliott Lake. No, we're not there. Hepsi's got to go there tomorrow.

Hepsi's going to Elliott Lake tomorrow. They've got dispensaries in Elliott Lake. Not that I need. Not that you need one. He's packing all the heat he needs. Not that I need. The colors are perfect if you opened up beside a Palma Pasta. That would be stellar. The funny part about being in cannabis is anytime you meet anyone,

they're like, you know what would go great next to your store? One of my stores. I'm like, well, we do go great with everything. That's true. There's not a lot of things where it's like, really, cannabis? I mean, maybe accounting. Accounting's not that good on cannabis, just to be clear. Although for some people it might be.

Yeah, so we just opened our 140th store a little while ago. Congrats, man. That's great. Thanks, man. We're in British Columbia now in BC. Yeah, in BC. The land of good weed. It is the land of good weed.

You know, a lot of the great weed comes from BC. But yeah, I mean, we're very excited. Shout out to Ross from Agliati. Hey, Ross is gold. That's it, man. That's it. There you go. Why, did you have Ross on your show at some point?

No, no. Just I was in Whistler during the Nagano Olympics in 98, and that was all the rage. I had a Nagano Olympics backpack. Yeah, man. That's the one we went to the shootout against the Czech Republic, and Gretzky didn't get to shoot. Nice.

Hepsi, what are your thoughts on that shootout? Should Gretzky have been shooting? Yeah, he should have. Because no one got fired for buying IBM. So it's like, you can't be judged for putting the world's most prolific goal scorer on the ice when you need it. Who was the Schneider in that situation? I'm trying to remember. Who was the coach who didn't put him out?

Mark Crawford? Yeah, it was Mark Crawford. He's right. This guy's got a great memory. I know, that's why I asked. You can ask about the 27 Yankees. How many games did you see the 27 Yankees play? I was going to say I was feeling a little young,

but now I really feel a little young. I'm kidding with him. I'm kidding with him because I love him. I spend every Friday morning with this gentleman for years. Corey has a question for you, Hebsey. Can you do another hockey bloops VHS tape? No, no, I don't own the rights to any of the video. And as you know, I mean, now, if you put anything out for profit,

anything, YouTube, whatever, if there's anything that needs, you know, the rights have to be cleared, and you didn't clear those rights, and you don't own those rights, you can't run it. Back in the day when we were on Global, we had a blanket credit. We could run anything from ABC, NBC, whatever it was. Nowadays, there's so much video shot by average Joes that are on there that people are picking stuff off and calling it their own.

And there's no real backlash, right? You know, hey, I'm not getting paid for that. But now you're getting people are, now more and more people are getting paid. You know, look at these athletes. Look at the nil. It's perfect in the United States, right? These athletes, these kids, they're stars in college, okay?

In years gone by, they're not a penny. Okay, the college is making millions of dollars off of these athletes for all these colleges for how many years and now these youngsters are getting an opportunity because of social media and because of branding i think it's fantastic of course it's not going to happen in the marijuana world because it's highly unlikely that today's athletes would be endorsing marijuana and playing a a sport it kind of is, but I'm not saying that in the future. Oh, I think in the future for sure. No, no, wait a second.

So when the first NFL quarterback to throw 70 touchdown passes in a season gets high, you know, likes to get high, and you go, well, wait a minute, maybe you should be endorsing. And then he'll get a can of Cabana. Yeah, please stop it. Reach out. And then he goes, can of Cabana. You know, back when I was in the Canadian League,

there wasn't much to do in Winnipeg in the off season. So we got into, you got places, you got in Winnipeg. We got lots of places in Winnipeg. Well, there you go. So there's your success story. With all our places in Winnipeg, there's plenty to do. Right. No, I don't mean that.

I'm just saying in this particular case here, marijuana, like it's like, look, gambling with athletes. Sure. All these guys, think about this. But not your own sport. Think about this. Willie Mays and Mickey Mantle were banned from baseball because they supported gambling.

One was going to be a greeter at a casino, and the other one, same kind of a thing. You know, they were gambling. And the commissioner at the time was like, oh, no, we're banning you from baseball. These guys were just put in the Hall of Fame, and now here's the commissioner going, oh, no, it's bad for baseball.

And then a few years later, oh, Pete Rose. Look at it now. Not only are ballplayers, not only are they endorsing and teams endorsing, they've got casinos there. So how long before there's a dispensary at the Dome? How long before there's a dispensary at Canna Cabana at the Dome? Right above Section 132. Yeah, it's going there while the game's going on.

Now, you can't vape or smoke at the game, but you can do your gummies. So by the seventh inning, you're like, whoo-hoo-hoo, I'm ready for the stretch. Recently, though, Charlotte's Web, one of the larger producers of CBD in the United States, became the official CBD of the NFL. The CBD. That's a good start.

Yeah, it's a good start. It's a foot in the door. It's a cannabinoid. Absolutely. It's a cannabinoid. As they make it more of a wellness thing or attach it to wellness stuff and that, I think they can attach it to sports way easier than, say, something like alcohol. They can't do that anymore.

Well, I mean, there's plenty of alcohol endorsement. But not with the athletes, right? Correct. Oh, the actual athletes. Yeah, they protect them. You've got to be a retired athlete. I see. The Miller Lite commercials for years were all retired athletes.

But current athletes endorsing alcohol? Absolutely not. Even now, like if you think of NHL players, right? You never see pictures of them, even though they're at golf tournaments all the time, going to parties. You never see pictures of them with booze or

smokes on their hands. And you know that they use them. And it's because they're protected, right? It's because of the red Solo cups. Well, think about it. They always say to you, just pour it into a red Solo cup. Got no problems. No one's because they're protected, right? It's because of the red Solo cups. Well, think about it. They always say to you, just pour it into a red Solo cup. Got no problems. No one's going to know what it is.

Right? And it takes that kind of stigma away. But it's a beer bottle. There's no beer-colored Gatorade, unfortunately. Right. You can't get away with that. Right. Well, what I did for years with my son's baseball, you know, you're out there in the summer

watching balls. Great. You need beers, right? Well, Starbucks has $1 reusable plastic cups, and they hold a beer perfectly. There you go. Put one in, put the white top on. Hey, that guy likes coffee. Nobody cares.

That's right. Nice. Kev, I've been recording for, what is it now, 18 minutes, and you haven't sparked one yet. Oh, I think we're probably getting there. But I will say, one of our best-selling products on one of our e-commerce sites in the U.S. is called the Puffco Cupsie. And so this is kind of a riff on that. It looks like a little coffee cup.

And you flip up the little top, and it's actually a bong. So you can sit there, you can drink your stuff normally, and then you're smoking a bong. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. All right, Kev, what do you got there? You took a trip to Canna Cabana. Which location did you go to? I went and saw my friends at the Burlington location.

Oh, yeah. Since I live in a city that is moronic and doesn't allow dispensaries. I'm in Markham. They don't have them either. When I'm up visiting my girlfriend, I got to go up to Stouffville, man. I'm in Markham. Nothing in Markham. I. When I'm up visiting my girlfriend, I've got to go up to Stouffville, man. I'm in Markham. Nothing in Markham. Luckily, it's not that far.

Thornhill? No. 15 minutes. Thornhill? No. Richmond Hill? No. No.

No Richmond Hill. They're losing out. But anyway, so I went up and saw my friends. What are they afraid of? Oh, it's the municipalities. No, no, no. It's the municipalities. It didn't seem so weird back at legalization when Mississauga opted out and Markham opted out.

But today, just because there's a cannabis retail store in every corner, it does feel kind of odd. And you know what? When they realize how much money they're losing in revenue, tax revenue, they're going to go out of their minds. Especially with all these empty stores lying around. Yeah, and some people say things like, you know, they're everywhere. They're everywhere. It's like, yeah, so what? Is there bad everywhere?

No. They hit the ass. Well, what's the problem the problem then right and there's not a problem so there was i think did i mention this on my podcast there was a guy from boston a writer for the boston globe he's in ottawa covering the bruins and the senators and he puts out a tweet that says no context it just says there are 18 marijuana dispensaries within 10 blocks of my downtown ottawa hotel that's the tweet i'm like thinking this guy's thinking that's a lot and i'm 18 marijuana dispensaries within 10 blocks of my downtown Ottawa hotel. That's the tweet. I'm like, I'm thinking this guy is thinking that's a lot.

And I'm like, I'm on College Street. There's freaking nine of them in two blocks. Oh, yeah. From Euclid over to Grace, there's nine. Yeah. Not of which six have gone out of business in the last few weeks. Can I pick up that thread, though? Because there's a lot of talk, you know, about a bubble's going to burst.

Okay. You just told me they opened their 140th show. No, that's them because they know what they're doing. But let's, Andy, what is the difference? Like, how come Canna Cabana is growing and we're seeing all these... Growing, I like that. That's good. You know, Mike, it's...

Accidental. So, listen, for one reason or another, Canna Cabana has really been a hit with consumers, right? We just crested, like, 800,000 members in our Cabana Club and we're really proud of that. People really connect with our concept. Obviously, unbeatable prices are hard to beat. But you're the reason those guys are going out of business. Hey, I never said that, man. I mean, listen, we're 140

stores. There's a lot more stores in that. Competition's good. You know, we're doing our best to don't worry too much about anything else other than delighting our customers. And frankly, they appreciate it. Supply and demand, right? If there wasn't a demand for it, there wouldn't be the success for these things, right? Even though some of them may go down, still everybody needs it, right?

Here's the background, right? We've been serving the cannabis consumer since 2009. We were a headshot. We were a bong shot back in 2009. And what that does for you, I've been in this business since 2016, it gives you a lot of clues as to what cannabis consumers actually care about. You know, and when we opened our stores, thankfully, we had a lot of experience with a cannabis consumer.

And so we've built an experience that they tend to appreciate. We also have an enormous selection of accessories, which I think is forgotten a lot. I don't know how many cannabis retail stores you've been to, but oftentimes the accessories are not really emphasized or they're a second thought. Well, you can't really smoke cannabis without an accessory. You really do need one. And so, you know, we spent a lot of time curating our selection, and we manufacture a lot of them,

so we can offer them at a price that's really unbeatable as well. So there's, like, lots of things working in the environment of our stores that customers really connect with. And it's not just unbeatable prices. The selection really helps, too. But I'll second that, because the prices are really good on the products. For sure. Because somebody even looks online for some of those kind of products.

They can be overcharged like a ton for any glassware or stuff like that. And yeah, when you walk into Cannabanna, it is cheap and it's there. And the people there are so helpful. It's well-priced. They don't like the word cheap. And I only say that because there's a lot of cannabis retail stores out there over the last year that have been focused on cheap, cheap, cheap. We don't sell cheap weed. We sell the best weed at the best price and the best accessories at the best price.

And again, that connects with our customers. Because I do believe that we sell probably more craft cannabis in this country than almost any other retailer out there. Maybe any other retail out there. Because we make the price really accessible, and we also curate an amazing selection of cannabis. We're hyper-focused on that. And yeah, our customer loves that too. So Kev, I want to watch you

spark one here, and I want to hear... Whoa, what are we dealing with here, though? Give us a play-by-play. What's in the jar? This might be the same one I've had. Ooh, Black Market. You like this brand, eh? I think this is the same one. You must really like this. I don't think I've had it since then.

Okay. Okay, only on Toronto Mike. Do you roll these or are they pre-rolled? These are pre-rolled. But I roll them. Normally I roll them. What's-his-name's got a guy that rolls his joints for him and gives him a million dollars a year or something like that. Who?

Wasn't that Snoop Dogg? Yeah, Snoop. A million bucks. He doesn't roll joints, but he pays a guy to roll joints. And what the guy does is he'll sit down, and he'll roll like 200 joints in a day. Like, he'll just not. Right? You've got to keep up.

But to be fair, they're rolling blunts over there. Snoop Dogg's not smoking a lot of things that aren't blunts. And that looks like a blunt, too, I believe. May I take a sniff? May I take a sniff, Mr. Canada Cat? Let me see you roll that blunt. I haven't rolled a blunt in a long time, but I could do it. That's a four paper?

Let me see. Oh, that's a blunt wrap. So that'd be a hemp blunt wrap because there's no tobacco in these. That's one of those manufactured ones. When we used to do it, we used to do it with four zigzag papers. Two of them attached together and then another one up here and then sort of a diagonal one because you'd have to make a cone at the end i learned it from the jamaicans when i was down there because he looked at me he's like mom that's not how you do it i'm like teach me and all these

guys had really long fingers oh maybe maybe it just looked like they had longer fingers but they all had these long fingers they could just you, you know, they could roll. Probably they could get one of those pampers, you know, and roll a joint in one of those things. Really good and perfectly so that the big end, the big fat end of the blunt. Yeah. I was hoping Hebsey would share his relationship with cannabis over the years because I made a lot of assumptions that I don't think we've ever talked about.

Well, I've known Kenny for a long time. Since we were kids. You made a lot of assumptions. We used to grow it up north. You grew yourself, Ebsi? Yeah. Really? What did you grow? Oh, you name it.

Really? I'm stunned. So were you growing outdoor or indoor? Outdoors. I've never grown indoor. They never had a place where I could, you know. Oh, you don't need a space. You say to the wife, right, I'm just going to grow.

No. You can do it. You can do it. Yeah, yeah. I've got a 4x4 tent in the basement. Oh, a grow tent. With an exhaust fan with a filter on it. And it doesn't cost a lot of money to get involved in it.

Where am I going to put this? I mean, it sounds like your wife is a lot more allowing than my wife, because she's not interested in a grow tent, a grow tent in the basement either. No, no, no. It's in the furnace room. I love it. It's a great hobby. Yeah, I wouldn't do it inside the house.

I wouldn't want to rock that boat, if you know what I mean. There's a couple boats. But I know I grow outside. Yeah, I do it outside. The problem with it is that the further north you are, the earlier you have to harvest because of the frost thing. Although, if the next day is a nice day, frost shouldn't have an effect on it. Oh, interesting day frost shouldn't have an effect on it shouldn't have any effect on it at all

I grew I have a lot of great friends who are growers and they're always bringing their cuttings over and showing me their buds and they're always beautiful and I have to shamefully tell them that I tried to grow four plants three years ago and it was a total disaster

I killed them faster than anything I tried it again the next year they killed them even faster you have to I tried it again the next year. They killed them even faster. So I just stick to it. You have to have patience. It is just a weed, right? I like that Canada Cavs guy here. There's one of my plants.

Oh, Kev, look at this. It's just curing right now. Oh, it's curing. No, no, you can keep opening it. No, no, let me burp it up. Yeah, just burp it up. Let me give it a smell. Let's see how far along we are.

It's starting to get its aroma. Oh, is it ever. Oh, it's getting to smell like candy. What did you grow here, bud? Take a smell of that. Oh, it's going to smell like candy. What did you grow here, bud? Oh, it's going to be smelling like candy. Oh, yeah, that's nice. You can see that there's no ammonia smell in there at all. What have you grown here?

Rockstar No. 2. Yeah, it's Rockstar. Very nice. Rockstar, Pink Lemonade, and Big Bud. So you grew indoors. So when you planted outdoors to its permanent spot outdoors, how big were the plants? About that tall. Oh, okay.

Oh, a little further. Not too big. No, but bigger than the ones that I would plant out of a solo cup. Yeah, yeah. Bigger than that, much more established than that because in years where- Right, because you grew them inside. In years where I put out little plants like that, rabbits eat them. Yeah.

And they don't even eat them. They just bite them and then leave them. Yeah. You know, the worst are the slugs. Yeah, slugs. Yeah, the slugs got me the first year. I was out there in my underwear with a palette knife just trying to squish them off the plant. Yeah, it's too bad.

It was not the best. The worst, I think, for me has been mold. Oh, yeah. The powder. The powdery mildew. And that, not this year. This year was really good because it wasn't that bad. But last year, because it was so damp all summer,

especially when the buds get nice and big, they absorb all that water. There's nothing worse than just seeing those big, beautiful buds covered in the powdery mildew. It's just the saddest thing. And then if you crack them open and the inside is brown, it's like you've got bud rot. I leave all of that to the professionals. There's a lot of great weed out there in the legal world.

I don't need to grow any of it. That is the one difference where if you do an indoor grow setup, a lot of those things are eliminated. Right. Because it's in a controlled environment, so you're not worrying about pests and everything else, and the weather as much because you're controlling it. Yeah, it makes good sense.

It's kind of neat. It's fun. It's a hobby. I was using fish poop for the earthworm castings. I got to tell you, it smelled terrible. I had some guys were doing my... Don't use that stuff. Don't use that stuff.

I mean, the guy... Listen, I was trying to do it all organic and all natural, and that was important to me. And then I had some guys doing my roof, and they were like, man, honestly, we don't even want to be here. Because it smells pretty bad doing this roof, but that fish stuff you're putting on your plants is even worse. They probably said something like, you know what? Stick to selling it. You're really good at that. Your company's doing well.

And leave, let the experts do the growing. Let the experts do the growing, right? Hebsey, you got that one. You got that one nailed. Growing weed. It turns out it's not that easy. It's like all these guitar players are great guitar players, but almost all of them need a guitar tech.

It's like, make it sound this way or fix it that way. I know how to play the notes, but I don't know anything about the equipment. Know your strength. That's right. Know your strength. Stay in your lane or whatever they want to call it. No, that's actually a shot. Stay in your lane there, buddy.

Do what you do best. That's it. Well, we do. We do our best to stay that narrow. No growing over here. You knocked the Friendly Stranger out of the West End there. Well, the Friendly Stranger knocked themselves out. I think they sold to Fire and Flower a little while ago.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they still have that banner going on in some capacity. Oh, no, not on College Street anymore. They're done. Yeah, that's become, yeah, you're right. Oh, I know. I walk by. There used to be all kinds of them, and now empty storefronts.

I bought my first pipe at the Friendly Stranger. Long time ago. They still got the one on Queen West, though, right? Oh, yeah. On the south side, the original? That's right. That's where I bought my first pipe. Yeah Friendly Stranger. Long time ago. They still got the one on Queen West, though, right? Oh, yeah. On the south side, the original? That's right. That's where I bought my first pipe. Yeah, me, yeah, yeah.

It's been around for a while. A few years, yeah. I made my first pipe. Seriously, out of a carrot. It was a chillum. Oh, you can make one of everything, yeah. It was a chillum. It was a big, fat carrot.

Hollow it out. Oh, it was great. Nice. It was great. And a great draw from it, too, right? You put a little stone in there, like right where the entrance is, right? So the hash doesn't come through and burn your throat. But how long did you have this carrot for?

Sounds like it was, it's all right. No, you'd have to. I got a new carrot. No, you'd have to make up a new one after every session. I mean, you could kind of clean. I guess you could. Our social media is always going off on these kind of fruit pipes. Like I think we just had it for Halloween.

We just showed how to make a pumpkin pipe. Right. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But I'm talking about, look, you know, any port in a storm. Like, someone says, oh, we got this great hash, okay? And you're like, well, what are we going to smoke this in? And this isn't the type of hash that you can break up

and make a joint out of. It doesn't smoke. It won't smoke that way, right? You've got to smoke it in some kind of a way. Are you a hash smoker? So I've got to tell you, I have a device for you in my vehicle that I'm going to give to you. It's called a haple. Have you ever heard of a haple before?

I have not. So a haple is this little sphere, and at the top there's almost like a cork. And what you do is you roll out a piece of hash until it's like a snake. And you wind it around that little cork, and you light it. Nice. And then you put it in this sphere, and it just fills up the whole sphere with smoke and you just toke on it and it goes hot knives ever no relighting you got to check it out we'll we'll check it out after the show way safer than hot knives i ruined a lot of cutlery i ruined a lot of my mother never forget my late mother would say what happened to

these knives and the tips and me and my brothers would keep me laughing, the tips of all of the steak knives. All of them. Torched. Torched. Destroyed. It's just like, why does everybody have these little scabs on their lips? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Just cold sores. So somebody had to come up with this invention to prevent people from getting sores on their lips. To be fair with you, 80% of the accessories we sell are an iteration of like, hey, we did something really dumb a long time ago of like, hey, we did something really dumb a long time ago to hurt. And now we have a better device. Oh, we used to make pipes out of anything like toilet paper roll pipes.

Oh, no, of course. I never did that. Oh, wait, you know what? It's just a toilet paper roll. But you know what the kids, you know what the cool kids do in college? They use, not Febreze, Bounce. Oh, you put the Bounce in the toilet paper roll. You put the Bounce in the toilet paper roll.

And then they think that, oh, no one's going to smell the smoke. But now there's devices you can buy. There's Smoke Buddy, there's Sploofy, and it's a piece of plastic, and it's got a charcoal filter, and you're blowing away. It's because of that. No toilet paper required. It's because people are like, why don't we have a way that we can do that, that no one

can smell the smoke? And someone went, necessity is the mother of invention. That's exactly correct. The cannabis life, though, it's filled like that. It's kind of like golf. It's filled with trinkets and something new all the time that somebody's thrown at you that kind of makes sense. And some of them are really good.

I think cannabis users are the most creative people out there, man. Every year, we hit a lot of trade shows with new devices, et cetera. Every year, there's something that blows my mind. I'm like, you found out how to smoke weed that way? Wow. You're willing to try this? That's incredible. Yeah.

Man, it's incredible listening to you guys. I love this. Forget Hebsey on sports, man. What about Hebsey on cannabis? I like Hebsey on cannabis because Andy on sports is pretty bad. Andy on sports, that's a C- at best. The only thing is you'd have to come up with stories about sports, like athletes or people in sports that like to get high.

Ricky Williams. And I'm not sure a lot of them would want that revealed. Right. Yet. Or ever. I don't know. It's an interesting one, man. I mean, like, even in the cannabis industry, you know, there's some level of people feeling uncomfortable to say, hey, I like to get high.

You know, I think in general, the stigma still exists, even for people who live in the industry. It's like saying, I like to watch porn. It's the same thing. Everyone knows. It's like, okay. But to admit it, oh, yes, I like to. It's like, oh, you're a pervert. There's something wrong with you.

Come on, folks. I like to watch porn. That's the carryover that has been going on for decades with the whole stigma attached to cannabis, which really sucks. It's hard to get rid of it. Probably the better analogy would be like, although the porn one's pretty funny, but probably the better analogy would be like, you know, getting high. Talking about getting high is kind of like being an alcohol and talking about getting drunk there's nothing wrong with like enjoying some alcohol but the second you start talking about i love getting drunk you know it's just it's an

awkward conversation right so high is like being tipsy you gotta yeah you gotta tiptoe around the conversation about like enjoying cannabis as opposed and so i think that over time as as you know things become more and more normalized, and more and more formats like, for example, beverage, that are a little easier for folks who don't consume cannabis to digest, or edibles, et cetera, these things open up the conversation to be a little bit more normal. But we've still got to work on that getting high part. People still have a little bit of a gut reaction to that.

I think you have to wait a full generation. And this is why I don't like the fact... I would love to have a place where you could go. Like a lounge. Like a cannabis lounge. Or something like that. Where you go, you can enjoy your cannabis and you have a place and there's like, I don't know, you could have areas for everything. You know, visual stuff,

audio stuff. I have some Turkish friends I should introduce you to. You know, exactly. Fair enough. That was one of our biggest ambitions, pre-legalization. You know, I remember when we were having our early conversations, it was like, man, I cannot wait to open a cannabis lounge. Like, one of my favorite memories of cannabis is going to Amsterdam for the first time. Oh, yeah. You know, it's great. When you go to Amsterdam, I arrive after the red eye, and it's like 6 o'clock in the morning.

I'm like, hey, man, can you take me to a coffee shop? Because I genuinely I need a coffee. And he's like, oh, they don't open till like 11, man. I'm like, wait, wait, what? So the coffee shop is where you go to smoke weed and a cafe is where you go to get coffee. But, you know, going to your first coffee shop, this is pre-legalization and sitting down and buying some cannabis and enjoying it and just sitting there and relaxing and other people doing the same. It's a beautiful thing. And I think it's something that we really need to see here in Canada at some point,

especially to bring the cannabis culture up a level, to normalize it further and to provide a forum and a platform for cannabis use to be normalized through means like, for example, beverage. I was talking to a friend earlier today, and he's strictly a beverage consumer. And it's just like when you look at beverage alcohol, like 40% of sales for Molson or whomever are on premise. You go and enjoy it in a bar, and then you go home and you pick up a six-pack on the weekend because you enjoyed the flavor. There's really nowhere to do that in cannabis today. And so we're working towards and hoping for a future where on-premise consumption and that kind of communal experience is possible.

Hebsey, do you ever pinch yourself and say, oh my God, I can't believe this is legal now? Because most of your life you've been doing it, you know? No. No, I don't. Because I never thought it was a huge deal anyway. Like no one ever, like I was never bothered. No one ever said, hey, that's illegal. Why are we doing that?

They're cops. No. Because I'm not dealing it. When I was a teenager, I would get enough so that I could sell it to my friends, but not at a big profit. I might have made 10 bucks or whatever. Carrying charges. It was like that. I took the risk. I bought a pound.

Kept it in my drawer. Told my mother never to go into my bedroom. Stuff like that when I was a teenager. But no, I just, I don't know. What I thought was funny was when, as soon as it was legalized here, where people went, oh, my goodness, it's going to turn society into, we're going to be a bunch of, are you kidding me? Oh, yeah.

Like, did you see what's going on in Colorado, for example, where it had been legal for years? Did you notice that people had started acting like, no, not at all. In fact, part of the deal in Colorado was that if they were to legalize it and not to criminalize it, if they legalized it, all of the money in the first year, tax money, would go directly to the educational system

to educate children and adults as to the evils or whatever of marijuana. So that was, they didn't go after alcohol and say oh we're better than alcohol they just said they don't even deal with that they said here's what we're going to do we want to legalize it but we want to make sure that everyone is fully fully understanding of this right not how it relates to alcohol just what it's going to do to society and then the bonus is look at all the taxes. They took in like $70 million the first year. The economic benefit is obvious. It's obvious.

And people understand. They know not to do too much. However, the thing, you know, certainly around legalization, the conversation was, I remember my mother being like, are people just going to be driving around all the time? Right, smoking it everywhere. Smoking it all over the place, schools, you know. And very clearly that's not what's happened in the last four years.

But on top of that, it's also become far easier to regulate cannabis. You know, you've got safe environments like our stores and other retail stores where, you know, folks are ID'd when they walk in and there's a normal way to purchase cannabis that is safe and legal. And, you know, we can do our part in keeping minors away from cannabis. And, you know, all of those things are other benefits of taking it from the illegal market to the legal. Hebsey, what do you think of this jam? Oh, it's excellent. Oh, really good.

Employees are called from the agents of fortune album. Needs more cowbell. I was waiting for that. I'm sorry. It's got it in there. I can't tell if Kevin is wondering. No, I love this song. But every time you hear

the first beats of this jam, you're thinking of that Saturday Night Live. It's impossible not to. My high school band covered this song. We were very bad and we played one show at Grossman's Tavern. I don't know if you know Grossman's Tavern. I know. Grossman's Tavern is fantastic. You're kidding? That's where I first had a beer.

That's where I first had a beer, too. You guys want a fun fact? You want a fun fact? I wasn't 19. Do you know the gentleman by the name of Eric Alper? Yep. That's his grandfather. Yeah. That's right. Well, Hebsey knows all these fun facts. Oh, yeah. We all knew about it. Albert Grossman, his grandfather,

what happened was he was a sympathizer to all these American draft judges. So they knew they had a place they could go. Like Bill King. They came up here, yeah. They knew they had a place they could go. Wow. It was Grossman's Tavern.

That's pretty wild. Still there? Is it still there? I thought during the pandemic it was gone. Well, no, I mean, it's still there. Oh, I see. No longer Grossman's. Yeah.

No, no, I think it's still there. I, it's still there. I see. No longer Grossman's. No, no, I think it's still there. Every time I drive up Spadina, I look. And this is one of those places you can't really tell if it's open or closed ever. Perhaps it's degraded to nothing or perhaps it's still open. And it's open every day, too. They have things on Sunday afternoons. They've got a side patio there. It's just down from my favorite Chinese restaurant.

Suato? Oh, come on. New Sky. New Sky. Hey, there we go. We can agree on one thing. New Sky, for sure. We can agree on other things. We can agree on a few things. I'm curious. So you're a younger man, right? Andy, you're a younger guy. Yes, I'm in my 30s.

Okay, so you've never had the pleasure of watching Sportsline on Global back in the day. Oh, he's too young. I know, he's too young. He's my son's age young. I know, he's too young. He's my son's age. So I feel like, Kev, we need to kind of just educate him briefly

who he's sitting beside. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. I'm not just another pop grower. I have Google, you know. We have Google these days. Well, I'm not sure Google's going to tell you anything. Well, I think there's a thing or two on Google.

I'm sure there's something chosen from some newspaper article or something like that. When I said Mark Hebger was joining us for the Halloween 2022 episode, did you Google him? I did a Google. And what did you learn? It was a few weeks ago. I learned that his father used to watch me every night on television. There you go. That's right.

Well, you know you're in trouble when it's me and my grandpa used to watch me every night on television. There you go. That's right. Well, you know you're in trouble when it's me. My grandpa used to watch you. But Corey writes in. This will help us learn a little more about Hebsey. But Corey writes in and says, I didn't grow up with Sportsline, so peak Hebsey for me was the score. Oh, no. I was way past my prime.

Well, Corey might be younger, too. He writes. That was okay stuff, Corey, but I was way past my prime. Yeah, you missed... I missed the good years. Corey writes, it was must-see TV every evening. So he loved your score, Aaron. Wow, that was shit, Corey.

You saw that. That was shit. That was a meat grinder of a show. Take the W on that. No, no, no. Take the W. That was a 12-hour shift. Must-see TV.

That was a 12-hour shift at the score. That was grind me out. Nobody has done it better in Canada since. Wow. This is a real note. This is not me faking it. This is Corey. And he writes.

Thank you, Corey. He's the one who asked actually about the hockey bloops VHS. But he says he remembers. I remember hockey bloops appeared to be filmed in a sports card memorabilia store. That's right. It was called Legends of the Game. It was on King Street. King Street and John.

That's where we filmed. Wow. Late at night after the store had closed. Are sports cards still a thing? That place closed within the last few years. What? Are sports cards still like a big deal? Wait a second.

What? What do you mean what? Did you just ask? I'm just curious. Is marijuana a thing? Come on now. Sports cards? Well, I don't understand how you couldn't.

If you, the rise of marijuana and you can't correlate that with, like, you're telling me that your customers don't collect sports cards? They all do. That's a great. They all collect cards. Everyone collects sports cards. No, they all collect. Wow.

They all do. All. This is some solid market research here. I mean, man, I had no idea. I learned something. It was collect. It was collect. We're squirrels. We're squirrels. We're squirrels. Come on. They all do. This is some solid market research. I had no idea. Let's collect. We're squirrels. We're squirrels. Come on. Everybody collects them. Stay tuned for this.

Look at your Wayne Gretzky rookie card. Technically never a rookie, but Corey says it. I mean no disrespect to sports cards. I'm curious. This is interesting. You need to get into that line there. That line of business. No, no. I mean the line of people waiting to buy sports cards. Okay.

And get your product to those people while they're waiting in line because that's what they do when they're going over their sports cards. They're a little tight sometimes. Toronto on a Saturday. Where are the sports cards lines happening? Well, no. Here's what you want to do. You want to go to a place like Frozen Pond, for example, when they have a card signing

thing. When they've got Austin Matthews there or whatever. Right. And they're freaking Austin Matthews there or whatever. Right. And they're freaking lined up around the block. Those are things, like, unless you want to go to them, you don't really know about them. Sports Card Expo. You know what I mean?

That's right. They don't advertise to me because I know I'm not going. Well, you know what? The Sports Card Expo. They do it four times a year. Stu Stone just talked about. Yeah, Stu. Scotty Guerrero.

Yeah, okay, okay. But that's the only reason I heard about that. There's your guy. The first Canna Cabana episode of Toronto Mic had sitting in the Hebsey seat was Stu Stone. And this never came up? No, but Stu, this never came up? Stu was sitting right next to him and the sports card marijuana thing never came up? Sports cards never came up.

I got to tell you, the Venn diagram for sports cards and weed, this is blowing my mind here. Weed has always been like, the sports cards went like this and this and this, and now it's gone like this again. Through the roof. Well, Corey's actually, he had a lot of questions here, but he says, what are your thoughts on the big unlimited supply? I think he's your biggest

fan, Hebsey. I would be nice to Corey. Well, there's lots of fans. Hebsey's lots of fans. You should see the numbers for Hebsey on sports. I'm going to do a little ad because he's a humble guy. I'm a little humble being here. Hedsey on sports. Hedsey, if you want independent sports talk with a Toronto focus, number one of a bullet is the man sitting here right now.

I'm going to be staying up until 1.30 in the morning to watch the Leafs play the freaking Sharks tonight. His takes. You can watch it live on his YouTube channel at 9 a.m. tomorrow. I'm lucky enough I get to co-host. That's what you want to do tomorrow morning. You want to get up at 9. Well, he'll be up before that. Yeah, he'll be up before that.

I said 9. I'll have to get into one about 8.45. But he wanted to know your thoughts. He says there's a big card boom of 2020. Huge. Yeah, I'm a bit like... See, what happened was when the pandemic started, when the pandemic began, everyone started doing, you know, the Netflix and all that.

But the collection of sports cards, the trading of sports cards, the value of sports cards started to go up exponentially at around the same time that Bitcoin was boom. But Bitcoin went like that, and sports cards kind of kept going. Are they still going? Oh, man, are they going. Wow. Wow, you would not believe what people are getting. You know who was really big on sports cards is Gary Vaynerchuk, you know, the internet...

Yes. Yeah, for sure. All us nerds. He started as like a baseball card guy. He was flipping baseball cards as a young teenager. But keep in mind, he's almost 50 now, so this was a while ago. So you remember Stu Stone who sat there last time? Of course, Stu Stone.

His father owned All-Star... Sluggers. All-Star memorabilia. Was it called Sluggers? Sluggers. And that was huge, man. You know, you've got to go back. And he had a documentary.

Where was All-Star Sluggers? On Thornhill on Steeles Avenue West. Nice. So are there still card shops in Toronto? Not really. Right. Not really. It's like an online thing.

It's online. Silver Snail? Yeah, there's not that many. I think it's gone now, too. Oh, is it? What about Red Nails? I used to go to Red Nails. I don't know if that's still there, either.

I think most of them are gone. So there was, you know what, now that I'm thinking about it, Drake was on with this company, local company, called Mint Inc. But again, they're like an online. It's all online. I mean, I think they have a brick and mortar, but they're like a lot of online. They do a lot of case breaks on Instagram and stuff like that.

But again, I only saw them because Drake was doing a thing. Oh, there you go. So yeah, it's big. Wow, that's wild. Grossman's is still there, and it's still open. This is as per Tobias Vaughn on our PirateStream, live.torontomike.com. That's incredible.

We should order a pint of, I think the only thing they sell is a pint. You can only order it by the pitcher. That's it. Is the next show at Grossman's, Mike? Can we make that happen? I was chatting with Eric Alper yesterday because he's putting Barney Bentall on this show.

Nice. I like Barney. And the Legendary Hearts or no? Just Barney. Just Barney? But I might do it actually at Massey Hall. I have to say Barney Bentall on this show. Nice. I like Barney. And the Legendary Arts or no? Just Barney. Just Barney? But I might do it actually at Massey Hall. I have to say Barney Bentall every time. We don't want people to be thinking it's Barney. Right. Because there's a go-to when you say

the name Barney, man. And it's not always Bentall for people. I always think of the Simpsons' Barney Gumbel. Merkle Dinosaur. Great documentary that just came out recently called I Love You, I Hate You. Oh my God. On the whole Barney Gumbel. Merkle Dinosaur. Great documentary that just came out recently called I Love You, I Hate You. Oh, my God. On the whole Barney thing. It's a documentary on it.

It's actually really good. A documentary on Barney. Yeah, but more on the phenomenon of Barney. That's a dumbest show. It was. It was designed to be that way. It was so weird. It's a good documentary.

They're cranking out a whole lot of documentaries these days. I got to say, you want to talk about an overlap, a lot of overlap between documentary watching and cannabis. Let's put it that way. Yeah. Perfect. It's like a never-ending, never-ending run. But there's nothing better than a good doc.

Getting sucked into like a bizarre topic and then getting, wow, that's cool. I'm waiting for the greatest doc of all time. It's coming out. They just gave, they had a live stream of it Saturday for like three hours, and then that was it. It's the King Crimson in the court of the Crimson King documentary. It's 90 minutes, and the reviews that I read were, I wish, if I could wish one thing, I wished it were longer.

And to me, that is the greatest compliment that you could give any performer. Mike, tomorrow, after this show, or tomorrow when we're finished, and someone says, Mike, tomorrow when we do, after this show, or tomorrow when we're finished, and someone says, God, that was wonderful. I wish it were longer. This is like the consensus of this documentary.

And to me, that's like the comedian that tells the great joke, has the place in stitches, goes, thank you very much, and walks off. George Costanza. That's it for me. But to me, no matter what it is,

no matter what your performance is, and I don't care if you're a teacher doing a lecture or whatever, but if you've got the audience, you've got them, that's when you leave. Leave them wanting more. You've got to know when to leave them wanting more. And so this documentary, everyone says, God, I wish it was more than 90 minutes. Oh, it was so good. And I want to see it. So what's the greatest music

doc you've ever seen? Wow. And you too ever seen? Wow. And you too, Canada Kev. You're a big music fan. The greatest music, probably the Emerson Lake and Palmer documentary. I haven't even seen that. What's it called?

Oh my God, it's wonderful. It was their 40th anniversary. I think it was done in 2010 or 2011. But it's all three of them. And like maybe three or four other people. And I didn't realize, and I was a huge fan of progressive rock, that they lasted like six years

and they were unbelievable. All they did was tour for six years and then they completely burned out and then they didn't come back for like 12 years. But I mean, that six year period from like 1970 to 76 or 77 was unbelievable. Like they were all over the world and they had the most elaborate stage show

of any show that was ever done up to that point. Do you know that Greg Lake had stainless steel drum set? It took two guys just to carry the bass drum. It was absurd. And the music and the lighting. And they did a concert tour. I think it started in Montreal, where they had a 100-piece orchestra.

Now, do you know how much it cost? Never mind what you're paying them. Travel, accommodation, food, 100-piece orchestra, 100 pieces. They lost $3 million on this tour. You can see pictures of them, too, with the keyboards stacked. It's like seven keyboards high. I saw them at the Olympic Stadium. I could not believe the grandeur, the excess.

The excess. And that was the going kind of overboard in the prog rock. So overboard. That was then kicked back in the face with Punk, right? Exactly. The exact opposite. Do they have to pay less for the triangle player? Does he make less money?

They feed him less. Less food. Less food required. That's what happened was when Punk came along, Emerson, Lake, and Palmer could not and would not. They couldn't transform into what people thought were going to sell records. And that was it for them. Their last album, Love Beach, they were all tan. They looked like the Bee Gees.

This is Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. So that was like it. But the documentary is really, really interesting because it was three guys. They were never pals. They did their job. They're professionals. Traveled the world. Right?

And individually, they were all tremendous solo artists. So one could say to the other one, all right, it's your turn for 10 minutes. Go do a drum solo or whatever. They kind of depended on each other that way. Really interesting. I mean, in terms of documentary, I always go to, and it's more of a movie performance,

is The Last Waltz. Oh, yeah. I mean in terms of documentary I always go to and it's more of a movie performance is the is the last waltz oh yeah it's the it's the top of the mountain no matter what but staple singers but that wasn't even

no they weren't even they weren't at they weren't at the concert Mike that was done on a soundstage that was done on a soundstage and everybody hated each other wasn't that because they didn't get good audio

or something no what happened was Scorsese realized that if you left the cameras on too long, the heat would heat up and shut down. And just when they were about to do the wait, the cameras all went... Fritz.

Right. Yeah. Like, absolutely crazy that they were able to pull that off. John Donabee was at that recording. John Donabee says he was side stage. He was good buddies with Levo and Helm. Right on. I believe that.

And that's the one where now, of course, in reissued versions, they've taken the liberty of editing out certain things, not in terms of whole scenes, but parts of the video. Yeah. Because now, of course, when you see Neil Young come out,

there's no big, you know, white nug of cocaine under one nostril that used to be, you know, highly visible on the screen, you know, when he's out there singing Helpless, right? Because I have the opportunity now. Ian Thomas recently made his Toronto Mike debut.

That was a great episode, by the way. Really enjoyed that. It's hard to believe that you could have a great experience of Dave Thomas and then his brother would be right there ready to match his effort. I think Ian's funnier than Dave. I've heard that. He is.

In Dave's case, it's like, be funny. Because you're just've heard that. No, he is. He is. Yeah. I think, in Dave's case, it's like, okay, make us be funny. Right. Because you're just used to seeing him in comedic roles. But Ian's got a sensational sense of humor. And I had seen their two-man show,

The Brothers, a few years back now, maybe a decade ago. And they were great. But Ian is so funny. And you were, because you were a Hamilton guy for a while. I was a Hamilton guy for a while.

So you have to check out the Thomas Brothers. Where was I going with that? Do you remember? Best music doc. Oh, it was. You had him on your show, Ian Thomas.

And he, before you. Yeah. Thanks for the help there. Holy smokes. Okay. So. I know what they say.

It'll come back to me very, very soon here, but I was going somewhere with Ian Thomas. Damn it. It'll come back. It'll come back. Hey, I'm going here. But I was going somewhere with Ian Thomas. Damn it, it'll come back. It'll come back. Hey, I'm going to read a question for you to bail me out. But Garnet Barnsdale, do you know that name, Hebsey? I do.

Garnet Barnsdale, the famous handicapper, the horse handicapper. Okay, shout out to Peter Gross. He knows a lot about horse racing. He wants me to ask you, Hebsey, do you remember the name of the first winner that you called as a track announcer? I sure do. And you were a track announcer you called as a track announcer? I sure do. And you were a track announcer. There's so much here. Please, go.

The horse's name was Panjomi Rose. Okay. And it beat a horse named Tyrolean Jewel. Wow. It was a good stretch run. You were a track announcer? Yeah. That sounds amazing.

Yeah. Whereabouts? Flamborough Downs. Flamborough Downs. How long did you do that for? Dundas, actually. Oh, Dundas. Well, it's up Highway 5 there.

Sure enough. Just outside of Hamilton. The GHA. The GHA. Yeah. I got a dollar. I earned a dollar a race. Wow.

I was in college. Was it broadcast at all, or was it you were at the track? Oh, no, no. Broadcast. There was no broadcast. Did you say down the stretch? And down the stretch they come. No, I didn't.

Nope, no. I don't believe I did say that. I do know. The guy owns a copyright on that, and we got a cease and desist for Peter Gross' podcast. Well, back when I was doing this, this guy, I don't even know who this guy was, but there was no such thing. My hero was Darrell Wells.

I'm not kidding. So what was the line for when the horse crossed the finish? What was your finisher? Oh, and here they are. See, in harness racing, it's different because you had to, let me think about this. You had to stop your call just before they hit the wire. So it was like, and here they are. So that last stride, there was no audio.

And then the horses would cross the finish line and people go, ooh, ah, or whatever, that kind of thing. If the horse was leading by five lengths, it was like, and then so-and-so by five. And then you just stop and they cross the finish line. But the exciting stretch runs were, they were exciting. And I called them like they were the little brown jug, the Kentucky Derby, the Queen's Plate. I mean, even though these horses were worth like $350. And the owners, remember, all these races,

for the most part, the claiming races, means the owners would rather have money than the horse. So the horse runs for a $2,000 claiming price, which means if you want to buy that horse, you put in a claim before the race, and you got it. No one else claims the horse. It's yours for $2,000, right? Right.

He's yours. You don't get that purse if the horse wins that night. The previous owner does. And so these are horses that owners don't want to have. Imagine you're calling the race like it's a Kentucky Derby. And Ben Jomi Rose got the lead. And you're saying to yourself, his owner would love to have $2,000 instead of this nag.

But you can't. Best would be if the sponsor was a glue company. You know, I was going to make a glue joke. Canada Cavs, but I wanted to keep it high-rider. I was thinking of Santa's Little Helper, you know. There wasn't any other issue. I was in Flamborough. I had a friend, and his family, they owned a farm out there,

or a ranch or whatever, where they rehabilitated those racehorses. And they had an exercise pool for horses built into the ground. And I thought that was so cool. Wait a second. Wait, because I know there's a place called the Bar 11 Ranch. That was, and listen, an indoor exercise pool for the horses. I think it was outdoor and in the ground. Yeah.

That's wild. That's how you exercise your horses. Yeah. Yeah. And I thought that was the coolest thing. It is very cool. You got to lift the horse in with like a little. No, they walk in.

No, they walk. There's like little stairs, like a ramp almost. It just goes right down. And then they have jets that push. It's like they're swimming themselves. That's pretty wild. Really cool. That's pretty cool.

Yeah, and remember, back in those days, there was no other kind of gambling. You could go to the racetrack, or you could gamble illegally. Right. There was not even lotteries. See, I didn't- Lotteries hadn't even started. I didn't see Colin the Ponies on your Google entry, Hebsey. I didn't see that one.

Look, I learned that today for the first time. There's lots to learn here. I had no idea. That is a hard job. Listen, I mean, nine horses or ten horses in a race, and you're like, oh, my God. And there are tightly bunched coming around, and you're looking for something.

Not necessarily the saddlecloth number, but you're looking at the jockey or the driver and the colors that they wear. You can identify the drivers, because they wear the same colors every race. But in thoroughbred racing, they wear the silks of the owner. So you don't know who the guy is. You're looking at the blue and white with blue polka dots. That's, you know, whatever.

Oh, it's got a, and then it's hard. Wow. And then if it's raining. Or it's foggy. Oh. Because, yeah, are you up there like with binoculars? Oh, big time. Big time. You got to call the race on binoculars. I think the brown one's going to win. That's a nightmare. I think yeah, are you up there with binoculars? Oh, big time. Big time.

You've got to call the race on binoculars. I think the brown one's going to win. That's a nightmare. I think the brown one's going to win. And here they come. Here they come. There they go. There they go.

On the interior. Dans l'intérieur. On the outside. Dans l'extérieur. In the middle. Oh, yeah. That's how they did it at Blue Bonnets. The guy who called the races at Blue Bonnets was the greatest.

The greatest. He did it in both languages. Like constantly bouncing back and forth. Constantly back and forth and like full speed. Numéro 8. Numéro 8. But he was just, it was fabulous. I remember the announcer in the forum at Montreal.

He was like that in every single thing. He was like, you know, Numéro 23. You know, Numéro 23. Numéro 23. Mats. Nass Lund. Bob Dini. It was like that in every single thing. It was like, you know, number 23, you know, or numéro 23, number 23, Mats, Nass, Lund. Bob Dainey. That was Claude Mouton. Wonderful, wonderful guy.

Died young. Wonderful guy. And they found him. He was at the train station in Montreal, Central Station, which is below the Queen Elizabeth Hotel in downtown Montreal. And they heard this voice over the loudspeaker calling the trains. And now, respond, listen, listen to me, again. Trois rivières.

And someone from the Montreal Canadiens went, wow, listen to that voice. And then he would repeat it in English. And they found out, Claude Mouton, they offered him the job to be the public address announcer at the Montreal Forum. That's like the Peter Mansbridge story. They hear him in the airport. Where were you discovered? Churchill Airport. Where were you discovered?

Schwab's Drugstore? No, I was calling the trains at the Gare Centrale. So that was great. And he was terrific. And he had a great voice. But the beauty was, when it was a French name, Numéro Deux, Yves-Gonoyer! The place would just go nuts, right?

And then it would be, Numéro Vingt-Trois, Bob Ganey. Eva. Courtois. The place would just go nuts, right? And then it was a numeral of that squad. Bob Ganey. Right. Ron Ellis. Right? Before I forget, Brian Trottier was on the show yesterday. Trott. It's a great episode.

You guys should check it out. It was like three parts, and it all came together kind of nicely. So if you want to hear from Brian Trottier, that's the most recent episode of Toronto Mic'd. Well, before the Grateful Dead episode, which was earlier today, and now, of course, it's Halloween. Guess who? The Guess Who, buddy.

What did I say? The Grateful Dead? It's been a long day. The Guess Who. Hebsey. Actually, I'm holding on to Diamond Dog's question for you because I'm going to give you guys some more gifts. So I've already given you, you got the Palma Pasta.

You got the beer from Great Lakes Brewery. There are green flashlights. Each of you should have a green flashlight. You might need them. It's dark out here. I hope you guys are too cold. So turn that on. Yeah, that's courtesy of Ridley Funeral Home.

So Ridley Funeral Home wants you to have a nice flashlight. Keep you guys safe. That's cool. And you guys each have a brown... Is that a gag, Mike? Don't go towards the light. I'm going to do the voice of the lady from Poltergeist.

Step away from the light. You each have a brown box in front of you. That's actually a wireless speaker you're each taking home with you. A wireless speaker. That's from Manaris. Thanks're each taking home with you. A wireless speaker. That's from Mineris. Thanks, Mineris. Nice.

Thanks, Mineris. Mineris looking out for you guys. And that's FOTM Al Grego who hosts. Oh, yeah. The Yes, We Are Open. Yeah. Hebsey, you've seen the Royal Pains in concert. Yeah, I have.

That's Al Grego on vocals and he hosts. But they are no longer the Royal Pains. No, the Royal Pains are gone, but he's got a new band. The Weekends. The Weekends. But they play up in barrier places like that. No, the Royal Pains are gone, but he's got a new band, The Weekends. But they play up in barrier places like that. Well, he lives in Hollins Landing. Well, that's close enough to Barry. That's right.

Hollins Landing. You know what? Bradford. Yeah, he's in Bradford. That's right. I should go see him because I'm in Markham occasionally now, more often than not. And it's not that far. What's going on in Markham, is it?

It's a skip. Well, that's where my girlfriend lives. I spend more time there than I'm spending at the apartment. Well, you know, that's the first step towards giving up the apartment and moving to Marcom. Could you do that? Do you see that in your future? I'm asking the personal questions.

Yeah, I do, and here's why. For her to come into Toronto is just, it's like it's over an hour. The traffic is horrible. To get from Highway 48 in Major McKenzie to Little Italy takes forever. It took me an hour and 15 minutes to get here from Spadina. So there you go. Toronto's an hour from Toronto, any way you want to look at it.

Exactly. That's why I bike everywhere. And as you know, Mike, I mean, I can get around in the city, but to ask her to come down... What they don't have in Markham is Grossman's. How are you going to reconcile that, really? That's a good question.

Or a can of Cabana. Well. No, there's none of it in Markham. On its way. I got to go up to this frickin' place in Stouffville, this frickin' Can we get a can of Cabana in Stouffville? Yeah, can we get a can of Cabana in Stouffville? We're working on it.

Do you guys deliver? Do you deliver? Yeah. Wait a second. If Uber Eats can deliver. Yep. Yep. Delivery is available at If Uber Eats can deliver. Yep. Yep. Delivery is available at Select Canicabana.

Select the nearest one. Where's the nearest one to Markham? Where is the nearest Canicabana to Markham? Well, boy, probably, unfortunately. If this is a tough question, I'd get in touch with someone else. You get a little further north of the 401 and there's no more cannabis retail stores for some time. Right. Because of the blackout. So you're probably looking at our Keele Street location.

Keele? Wilson and Keele? Where is that? Keele and Eglinton area. Keele and Eglinton? Yeah. You know how long it takes to get there? Stock up and bring it north.

Or you could head to Innisfil, but I think that's pretty far from home. The best one with Barry and Cannabis was the when they got busted open the Molson factory. It was the biggest. Huge! What a massive one up in Barry. Huge factory. I read the stories about that.

It was the hydro, right? I read the stories about that, man. It was massive. The hydro always gives you up, right? You gotta steal the hydro. But it was going for at least a couple years. I know, yeah. Unknown. So you can legally grow four plants. Is that right?

Like you could do four and the fuzz will leave you alone. The challenge about growing four plants is when you're growing plants, especially if you're your average Joe like myself, you're going to kill a few. But you're not your average Joe. We don't kill ours. Wow. Are you suggesting that I'm somehow below your average Joe. We don't kill ours. Well, fair enough.

Are you suggesting that I'm somehow below your average Joe? No, but what I'm saying to you is that I've never killed a marijuana. Never killed a marijuana? But who needs the hassle when you can go to Canada Cabana and- Now we're speaking truth over here. Maybe I have a black thumb, but I can definitely sell you some green. I killed a few. You just- On purpose.

I purposely killed a few. Oh, can I ask a question about the term some green. I killed a few. On purpose. I purposely killed a few. Can I ask a question about the term? And the reason why is because they were male. And you don't want the male. You can get like feminized. Feminized seeds is like a thing now. I never bought a plant that ever

turned out male because they're all feminized. I got a dumb question. This term marijuana, do we use that term anymore? It feels antiquated. I try to use cannabis. We don't. We use cannabis in general. Yeah, marijuana has a troubled history.

A troubled history of being connected with the Mexican. And this is all part of it. And then when Stu was here, he talked about his mom, because Stu enjoys cannabis, and he gets it from Canada, but his mom calls it dope. Oh, yeah, we don't call anything dope. No, no, no. But his mom's got that brainwashed, old-school,

gateway drug kind of paranoia that that's dope. And this is all tied into this whole term marijuana. It's all part of the reefer madness, the war on drugs. Yeah. I mean, a lot of negative things about, you know, the history of cannabis, but a lot of positive things. Still a lot of great stories in cannabis. People here, look, Canada Kev,

Hebsey, big cannabis advocates, and two of the greatest guys I know. Like, straight up. But for different reasons, though, you see. People, you know, there are some who think, oh yeah, you just, instead of drinking, you just smoked. And I'm like, yeah, maybe for that, but you know it's there are some who think oh yeah you just instead of drinking you just smoked and i'm like yeah maybe for that but you know it helps me sleep yeah it really helps with anxiety i had performance anxiety and there was only one thing that was going to help me from performance

anxiety and it wasn't booze like a lot of people i know right drink because they can't go on stage they can't go on air they can't perform and i air. They can't perform. And I was the same way. I was almost like paralyzed. And this really helped. It helped. And also, too, if I've got stomach issues or whatever, it's a natural analgesic. So did I discover it the same way some people? No.

But it's for different uses. My father uses it because he wants to be able to sleep at night. So he takes a half a gummy an hour before he wants to go be able to sleep at night. So he takes a half a gummy an hour before he wants to go to bed. 10 o'clock he takes half a gummy and then at 11 o'clock when he's on the edge of his bed he takes the other half a gummy and he sleeps like a baby every night.

Before that he could not sleep. It's tough when a lot of people their only experience may have been a not so favorable one and you know they were too far inside their own head and were paranoid whatever it may have been a not so favorable one and you know they were too far inside their own head and were paranoid whatever it may have been or they smoked some shitty when they drive right and i understand almost every single every single time that i hear that story it's almost always because someone was at a party and they were drunk

and then they smoked some juice and they did it in the wrong situation and they were in the wrong headspace to do it but they they can not relate to somebody else using it and having it not feel that way to them. Because it doesn't. Like Hebsey was saying, it can be effective for so many different things. And the challenge is, A, we can't make any claims. We can't talk about that in any capacity. Some of the things that you've related in your own personal life that you've used cannabis for, it's not something that we can talk about in our stores.

We're just not allowed. Right. And so it's a very individual experience for everyone. Um, you know, for me, cannabis specifically is very good at putting things into perspective. You know, a lot of the time, you know, you, you may describe it as anxiety in my own mind. I've just got racing thoughts, you know, racing thoughts and things seem really big for me. And, you know, when I relax with cannabis, I'm able to kind of put, put some of those things in perspective and get a little bit more present to what's actually important. And that's, that's, what's been helpful for me with cannabis. Um, for me, it's not, you know, even though it's certainly recreational, it's not a, um, it's not a, it's not a party experience, you know, it's not, it's not, let's go out and have some drinks.

It's a very different, very different thing, but that's difficult to explain for me now. Like that's my experience as well. Right. And I've said to somebody else recently, it was like, I don't get the high school high. Sure. Like that kind of high, right? It's different. It is more of a, just a better feeling and not a out of control type thing.

Yeah. I mean, you know, we meet all sorts of people in our stores and they, you know, of course they have, everyone has a different reason and everyone has a different circumstance. So it's really hard to paint everything with one brush. You know, people, people use everything for different, different purposes. But, you know, cannabis certainly has its place, in my humble opinion, certainly has its place in a lot of different scenarios and for a lot of different great reasons. Exactly. So I mentioned Al Grego.

We got kind of sidetracked there, but he is the host of the Yes, We Are Open podcast, which is a Moneris podcast production. And he's been telling the stories of Canadian small businesses and their perseverance in the face of overwhelming adversity. So everybody can go to YesWeAreOpenPodcast.com and subscribe. Subscribe while you're there. Subscribe to Hebsey on Sports, which is really, honestly, the greatest independent sports podcast in the country. Independent. Fiercely. Fiercely.

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big fan it's a good one classic I was never a huge Ramones fan but this was the one song that I always liked of theirs

saw them live twice I was going to ask you if you ever saw the Ramones live interesting stories about them for sure are any left? are they all gone?

no there's one left which one is left? I don't remember? No, there's one left. Which one is left? I don't remember. I don't know. Marky? Is Marky? Yeah, it might be Marky, yeah. They're all...

But they all went way too soon. This one here was like mid-80s, and it was a Stephen King movie, Pet Sematary. Right, yeah, yeah. I never saw the movie. Little kid gets jabbed in the arm, tranquilized. So I teased that Diamond Dog had a great question for Hebsey.

Hebsey, who is the second greatest athlete we've never heard of? The second greatest athlete you've never heard of? And then we'll have to give context for Andy. It's a woman named... This means they are the first now, because we already know about the other one now. Do you remember his name? Look at his eyes.

George Washington Orton. The runner. Yeah, George Washington. I'm having a plan. From Strathroy. From Strathroy. That pony from Flamborough sounded like a good candidate. The brown horse.

The other one would be Ida Schnall. It was a woman who was in Ripley's Believe It or Not. She was a champion and a women's champion in like 24 different sports. And she started a baseball team, the New York Female Giants. Right? They used to play games at the polo grounds. And she learned how to throw a curve from Christy Mathewson. And she would have been the first Olympic gold medalist diver, female.

But they didn't allow women into the Olympics that year. The American team would not allow their women to perform in the 1912 Olympics at Stockholm. Other nations allowed their women to, first time. But Americans, no, because they didn't want to bring those skimpy bathing suits. So she was the best. She was the greatest diver in America, and she would have won the gold medal.

And then she went on to... Eide Schnall? Eide Schnall, S-C-H-N-A-L-L. And for Andy, who might be unaware, tell us about George Washington Orton and how we can learn more about this guy. Oh, let's see. Well, George Washington Orton was the first Canadian

to win an Olympic gold medal. But everybody thought it was some other guy that was like, you know, this guy wasn't even part of history. And yours truly did some research and found out that in fact it was. Good for you. A guy named George Washington Orton from Strathroyroy ontario who was like the greatest runner in canadian history and was also like a world record holder in the mile and when he went to university of

toronto he ran for the university's teams and the university made all kinds of money charging admission to come ask people to come watch him to run these events, but he never got any money. So the university made all this dough off the guy, and then eventually he went to the University of Pennsylvania, where he became a PhD, learned to speak nine languages, and ran for the track team, was the captain of their track team, and started the Penn Relays, the world-famous international race. And then went on to coach hockey at Penn

and introduced the sport of hockey to Philadelphia and was an unbelievable and then died in New Hampshire when he was 85 years old. No one had ever heard of him before. And you wrote the book. I wrote the book. Let's not bury that lead. I wrote the book called The Greatest Athlete You've Never Heard Of because I

had never heard of him. When my son, 16 year old son at the time said, hey dad, you know who the first Canadian was to win an Olympic gold medal? And I went, sure, it was Etienne Demerto from Montreal, 1904. And he went, nope, George Washington Orton. I read it in a trivia book. Wow. Wow.

Googled him, nothing about George Washington. So on the heels of that, David wants to know what's the status of the second book that you're working on? Well, what's the status of it? 120 pages in. Okay. And what's it about? I can't say anything yet.

Oh. Well, I can't yet because I still need permission from... Okay. There's a big gap in there. We don't want to get you in trouble. It's a long process. You know when people say, oh, it took me 10 years to write this book,

and you're going, 10 years? What were you doing, fucking around for 10 years? But you realize that you could put an idea away and then come back to it and go oh and then and then i get stuck again and have you know brain cramps writers cramp writers block whatever the hell it is and then at some point you may actually finish this thing so sometimes it is 10 years whether it's a movie or a book or whatever sometimes it's years in the making from the time you came up with the idea to the concept of the finished product. Right. This feels like one of those 10-year things.

In other words, you know what? Call me back in two years, and hopefully I'll be 200 pages into the book. I'll ask you on Hebsie on Sports in two years. I'm going to take a note there. By the way, one of the great music docs, in my opinion, is Whatever Happened to Nina Simone, which is a very good doc. Yes, you're outstanding. And this, I'm telling you, this cover. And I don't care if you don't want me. I'm yours right now.

You hear me? I put a spell on you. Come and bend your mind. I'm in bandy, I'm in bandy, I'm in bandy, I'm in bandy. You're mine. Nice. Wow. She was in, I was at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction ceremony when she was inducted. She was inducted the same year as the Moody Blues, Bon Jovi, the Cars,

Sister Rosetta Tharp. Was that a boo for Bon Jovi? Yeah, that's a boo for Bon Jovi. I do not like Bon Jovi. Are you a big fan? I'm sorry. Howard Stern introduced them actually and he was unbelievable. He was great. I liked them a lot. I liked Slippery When Wet when I was in primary school,

but as I grew older, I started to dislike them with great passion. I don't know why that is. But, Andy, that's your favorite band of all time? Yes, indeed. Yep, I only have one tape in my car. Is it Slippery When Wet? It's Slippery When Wet. What was the Young Guns song?

Young Guns 2, I think, maybe, but one of those Young Guns. What was it? Wanted Dead or Alive. Yeah, that's it. That's not so bad. Like, if I'm in the right mood. If you catch me on the right night in the right mood. He's gone from hating them.

Oh, that's not bad. That's a pretty good one. But you know that the greatest karaoke song is Living on a Prayer. Like, everybody knows that song. But nobody can sing it at karaoke. But it gets the crowd singing, I think, so it kind of covers it up. Because everyone in the crowd knows it, so that's the best.

But there's one video, and I don't know, it was some town square somewhere, and some guy had it on his boombox, and everybody, like after a while, everyone was like, oh, we all know this song, and they all, you know. No, no, no.'t all know this song. And they all, you know. No, no, no.

I just. Not for the Wolfman? Yeah, because I can cross promote the Guess Who deep dive from earlier today. And I. The lead in was too strong. The lead in was too strong. What a segue that one was. Came in too hard. I'm sorry.

Wow. Slipped on my fader here. Listen, I'll take living on a prayer over Bohemian Rhapsody at karaoke any day because it's just too long. Bohemian Rhapsody at karaoke? Yeah, that is a test of gymnastics. Have you ever been to a karaoke without Bohemian Rhapsody?

Well, the only karaoke's I go to are live ones where there's a live band. Do you know what community loves karaoke? Now, my wife, I don't know if she's watching on the live stream, but the Filipino community. They love their karaoke. They love their karaoke. They love their karaoke.

Wilson Avenue in Bathurst. There's a place in Bathurst in Wilson I was at. That's wild. Really? It's fantastic. It's on the south side of Wilson, and it's just west of Bathurst. That's a Filipino community in there, right? And there's this one spot. Oh, it's awesome. I can't remember the name of it, but they've got

a canopy outside and an outdoor. And it was great. Like 2010 downtown, the office of it, but they've got a canopy outside and an outdoor. And it was great. 2010 downtown, The Office. I don't know if you know. It was, I think, King and John area, whatever it is. They actually had a really great karaoke. We did karaoke every weekend for three months and then we burnt out on it. Haven't been since.

Great times, though. Lots of Bohemian Rhapsody, however. Live karaoke. If you can ever find the one we used to go to, you'd have to get there two hours early to get a seat. Come on. Because it was a four-piece band

and these guys were all professional musicians. Oh, it was a band. That's what I just said. Live karaoke. What did you think I was talking about? I thought we were all live

and it was karaoke. I'm with Andy. I've never heard of a live band for karaoke. How is that even possible? Because they've got to be good to play so many songs. 4,000 songs in the catalog.

No, no, no. What they are is they're a cover band, and it's like, do you know this song? Yeah. So they have a list of the songs they know, and if they don't know it, they can probably play it in a certain key. So let's say you want to play

These Boots Are Made For Walking, and they go, all right, key of G. Okay, yep, got it. You know what? Yeah, I know that one. I'll do it on the keyboards in A. Okay, fine. Because they're a jam band. And then they just say, okay, just go ahead, and we'll follow you, or we'll start, and, got it. You know what? Yeah, I know that one. I'll do it on the keyboards in A. Okay, fine. Because they're a jam band.

And then they just say, okay, just go ahead and we'll follow you or we'll start and you jump in. And before you know it, the whole place is singing These Boots Are Made For Walking. I got to get to one of these live karaoke. This is a new thing for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you're just not in the right place.

Hanna-Kabana plus karaoke equals a good day. That's right. I didn't realize that Markham was the hotbed for live karaoke. Oh, no, this isn't in Markham. Oh, no. There's no Markham. Their streets are rolled up at 8 p.m. Are you kidding?

There's nothing going on in Markham. This is Bathurst and Wilson, right? Yeah. Bathurst and Wilson has become a very hot Filipino community. Absolutely. Now, we're almost winding down. You guys have been amazing. I hope you're not too cold out here.

I've thoroughly enjoyed this, but Craig wrote me and Craig writes me every time. Hebsey talks about Tiger Woods on Hebsey on sports. This question like is the question is, is it true? Tiger Woods is his favorite pro athlete, but I happen to know from previous discussions of Craig that he's being sarcastic.

Craig thinks you've got an issue with Tiger Woods and I want Hebsey to address this once and for all. What are your thoughts on Tiger Woods? I don't think he's a very good husband. Then don't marry him. Not a good driver. Other than that, pretty darn good golfer.

Other than that, hell of a golfer. He's quite good. Is he the best golfer of all time possibly I would say definitely it's just his character that you have an issue with well yeah I think he's a fucking phony

he's a great golfer he's a great golfer but he's a phony so if he's on the links A plus off the links you don't have time for this guy I think it was pretty clear in my previous statement It was pretty crystal clear I think there's plenty of golfers that would

Be that way too Just leave them on the course I don't want to see them in real life Alright listen final thoughts here as we wind down This has been awesome Canada Kev I'm starting with you Any final thoughts here you had had a good night? Awesome. I loved it. I love doing this. We've got to do it again. I think there should

be, like, we've got to do, like, a Christmas edition or something. Maybe not out here, though. Okay, so indoors. Okay, that's when we get the crossover. How are we going to smoke? That's when you build your tent and we have the... Oh, I got the gazebo. We do it in the gazebo. There you go. No, that's what I was

going to say. That's when we use, instead of smoking it, we get Chef Wegman over to cook it. Oh, you know Jordan. Jordan Wegman. Oh, Jordan Wegman. How do you know Chef Jordan Wegman? Because of you, Mike. Because he's an FOTM. He's an FOTM.

Jordan Wegman is a fine man and a hell of a chef. Oh, my God. We attended a dinner with him about a year ago around the time of the Lift Conference. It was mind-blowing. There were people from all walks of life there and all of them were enjoying infused food and it was everyone was blown away.

I had a lot of time for that, man. By the way, you should listen to Chef Jordan Wagman on Trottle Mike. It was quite the conversation. He's an amazing story, too. Yeah, absolutely. Now let an amazing, amazing story too. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Now let's go to you,

Mr. Hebbs. Oh, you don't like Mr. Hebbs here. Hebbsy man. Hebbsy, I can't wait for tomorrow, 9 a.m. We got Hebbsy on sports. Final thoughts.

Final thoughts or final judgments. Final thoughts. Final thoughts until 9 a.m. I'd like to thank the sponsors. I'm looking forward to the... StickerU.com. Yeah, but I'm looking forward...

I'm going to fit this in. Oh, this is the... Well, I'm going to... It's in the freezer. That's the proper... This is a very enjoyable... It was very enjoyable here. You got a speaker.

You touched a lot of topics. You got great sponsors. And I enjoyed my fellow panelists this evening. Was there a love connection? You and Andy? I've got to tell you, this Hebsy guy, he's awesome, man. I feel like I missed out on the prime time we were talking about earlier on. Born too late.

Or maybe born at the right time. Born under a bad sign. If it wasn't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. I feel like this was must-see television. So thank you, Mr. Hebsey, for sharing some time with me. Andy, it was a pleasure. A real pleasure. Should I have recorded this? I'm just kidding.

Just enjoying it. Oh, so Bob Willett was on here last week, remember? And he did his first, he's always done remotes. Like he has people zoom in because of COVID and everything. And then he had his very first in-person episode and we were chatting

because I was helping him with it and everything. And he's like, oh fuck. And I'm like, what's wrong? He goes, I don't have it.

Okay. So his guests came over, they talked for like 90 minutes or whatever. He just simply didn't have it. Lost all of it. And I think that's, is that your biggest nightmare,

Hebsey? Like one day when you're covering, I don't even know. What happened to me? So who did it happen to you with? Because to me, that's the big thing. You're not going to believe this.

Okay. I'm ready. But I did a radio interview with Sparky Anderson of the Detroit Tigers when he was the manager. And it was a feature interview because I was going to run it

later that day or that night, I guess it was. It was a night game. On 1430? On 1430. No, it was a day game because I was going to run it later that day or that night, I guess it was. It was a night game. On 1430? No, it was a day game, and I was going to run it that night on 1430. So anyway, it was a 10-minute interview in his office. I had asked him for it. He said, after the other reporters are gone, he'll give me some time.

It was a really good interview. Boy, he opened up about being in Toronto and playing here and loving playing here and managing in Toronto. I don't remember all the other details, but he was really forthcoming. And it wasn't a lot about baseball. It was about him and, you know, the kind of a guy he was. Really good interview.

Thanks very much, Spark. You appreciate it. Okay. So now when you did these recordings, you always, before you left, you always checked to make sure you had the recording. But he was busy. Like he had other stuff to do. So it was like, well, thanks very much.

And so instead of stopping it and then rewinding it a bit to make sure that I got it, I left his office. He closed the door. He goes into the shower now. He's showering in his office. I did not record. Oh. I can almost feel this.

Now, in those days, you had a little quarter-inch Sony pen kind of a thing that went into the input. And they weren't always secure. And in this particular case, it was a crummy station-issued tape recorder. Right. A lousy tape recorder. And the jack input was was so it didn't record oh my god so now i'm panicked what am i gonna do yeah and so now i gotta find now i gotta do a test recording anyway i fixed it i jiggled it whenever now it worked and now i gotta do another recording

now he's in the shower he's gone into his shower he's done with me like knocking on the door right and he's not answering because he can't hear because the shower's loud. Right. So I open up, and the door's still open. He didn't lock it behind me. I open up the door. Fuck, man. What do I do?

Right? And I go, excuse me, Mr. Anderson. And I go, I'm really sorry, Mr. Anderson. It didn't record. What? Jesus Christ. The water goes off I just, it didn't record. What? Jesus Christ. The water goes off. Seriously, the water goes off.

Now, it's a stall, right? It's sort of with glazed glass. What do you call it? Smoky glass. Smoky glass, right? That you would see, so you could see the silhouette of him, but you couldn't pin behind. And now he opens this thing up, and he's fucking soaking wet

from the shower. And he's still got, like, soap in his ears and that kind of thing. He goes, what happened? And he opens this thing up and he's fucking soaking wet from the shower and he still got like soap in his ears and that kind of thing he goes what happened he goes like now he's mad what happened i'm really sorry mr it didn't record oh for crying out loud hang on right and i'm just like nothing i can do i like i gotta get this thing right towels himself off sits down in the chair grabs a pipe because he's a pipe smoker right? grabs a pipe, puts a whole new thing of tobacco in the pipe, M4 or whatever the hell it was, lights up the pipe, takes a couple pipes

puts his feet up on the desk, leans back and goes alright let's go and we do the interview again and he's great he's really good, he's so so so good and then when we're done right? and I said thank you very much I stopped the tape, he goes go. And we do the interview again. And he's great. He's really good. He's so, so, so good. And then when we're done, right, and I said, thank you very much. I stopped the tape. He goes, check it.

I go, it works. He goes, now get out of here or I'll never see you again. That was it. And then I saw him like a few months later and I go, hey, Sparky, how's it going? He goes, got that tape recorder working again? But the best part of the story now is this. When I see him a few months later and the Tigers,

after the game, I go to interview Jason Thompson, the first baseman. And next to his locker is Steve Kemp, a noted jokester. I didn't know this at the time. I'm interviewing Jason Thompson. I got that same microphone. And unbeknownst to me Steve Kemp has pulled the cord out of the jack he's pulled it out of the jack

but not so much that I would notice that it was that there was any tension or whatever on it I'm in the microphone with Jason Thompson and sure enough I get back and it's not there and it's hanging by a thread and Steve Kemp is he's in the showers by now right and everyone's giggling and all that so yeah you gotta be careful

when you're out there man but Sparky Anderson was great cause he could have just told me to fuck right off but he bailed me out I gotta tell you the stones on you for walking into a room where a man is showering to demand a second interview and Sparky Anderson

what is it what the hell and he's what at that time, like 65, 70? No, no, no. He always looked way older. Yeah, with the white hair. No, but think about this. When he first saw him with white hair, I think he was 38 years old when he first managed the Reds. That's right.

He was like white hair. But yeah, it was like, here's the thing. I'd rather be yelled at by Sparky Anderson than fired or yelled at by my boss back at the time. So that's what it kind of came down to. Solid motivation. He was like Wilford Brimley, right? I think Canada Kev is now older than Wilford Brimley. I think Wilford Brimley was what, like 36

in that movie or something stupid? Not that young. But it is a bizarre number. He was like maybe 47. He was like 51 or something. No, no, no. No, no, no. I was reading the thing. No, no. I'm sorry. He wasn't. He was 41. Wow. He was 41 in Cocoon. Oh, my God. It's a really weird number.

And he played a 65-year-old. And he was playing like a 65-year-old. Yeah, he was a 65-year-old. Andy Palalas, I'm leaving the last words to you. You've been amazing. Thank you. Continued success at Canna Cabana. That's 140 retail stores.

Thank you. You guys have been awesome partners of this program, fueling the real talk here. It's just been great working with you. Thank you. You guys have been awesome partners of this program, fueling the real talk here. It's just been great working with you. Final thoughts. Mike, thanks for having me on again, man.

I would not want to be anywhere other than your backyard right now. Great guest, Canada Kev. Hebsey, my new best friend. Thank you. Thank you for having me. This is great.

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High tide. High tide. Shout out to Raymond James Canada. They'll help you invest. There you go. There you go. And that brings us to the end of our 1140th show. I actually want a photo of you guys right here

before we depart and take our regular photo. I want this with that background and that skeleton that's been scaring the shit out of my kids. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Canada Kev, how are you followed on Twitter? I think it's Kkev88.

Well, you better know, Kkev88. Hebzy is at Hebzyman. I know because I tweet at him every Friday morning with the link to the YouTube live stream of Hebzion Sports. Andy Palalas, you're at APalalas. I've been tweeting at you. At APalalas. And you can also check us out on Instagram at Canada Cabana.

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tonight. See you all tomorrow. And my special guests are Sharon and Bram. Because everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow won't stay today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine And it won't go away Because everything is rosy and gray Well, I've been told

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and it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and gray Well, I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour

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Everything is rosy and gray, yeah. Thank you.