Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Hawksley Workman: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1794

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

In this 1794th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with Hawksley Workman who is touring Ontario with gusto and passion. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, Blue Sky Agency, Kindling, RetroFestive.ca and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail].

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how you doing hawk i'm excellent i am excellent how are you i think that was the best cold open yet like i've been doing this lately and you get kind of a mixed bag of results but you uh you hit it out of the park buddy well you know i've always as you know i've always kind of wanted to be in your lane of show business the the whole talking the whole talking into a mic is uh is exciting for me it always has been i had a i had a walkie talkies that i got for christmas one year and i ran a little radio show out of my bedroom to my mom in the kitchen. So, you know, and we would just, I'd put the walkie-talkie close to the tape recorder and play some stuff, but it was a lot of talking, you know, just me in my bedroom pretending to be a radio guy. Well, you do, you know, speak or maybe you're

singing more than speaking, but you do present in front of a microphone for a living. Yeah, it's true. But, you know, I'm sort of confined to showing up to those gigs and singing those pre-written three-and-a-half minute tunes, which I love. It's a great job. I love my work more than ever, frankly. But it's the improvisational nature of the, you know, guy on the mic responding in the moment to what's happening. I sort of feel like, you know, terrestrial radio. And you go live daily, right, still? Pretty daily. Yeah. So you get to provide that old 20th century experience of like people having a collective listening experience. Like when I had a job, my first. and kind of only job in Toronto was in and around when people started to talk like Seinfeld.

I didn't have a TV, but I saw it happen and I knew what was happening. I was like, oh man, like we're all collectively starting to be sort of molded. Our language patterns are starting to change to sort of adopt what's happening in this popular TV show. And I get excited about those kind of like when everybody culturally is on the same page because it's so al-a-cart now. So it's really hard to have that like, we're all in this, you know, unless it's a sporting event. That still kind of has that. You know, you nailed it. As usual, Hawk, you nailed it because we live in, what you're referring to of the Seinfeld

references, that was the monoculture. You know, everybody was watching ER. Everybody was watching Seinfeld, right? And today, it is very fractured with the exception being, and I don't know how big a sports fan you are, but like I remember the Four Nations Cup, is that what it was

called when Canada played USA for gold? This was earlier in 2025. And then this Blue Jays World Series run, like these are that's that's all that's what it takes now to bring a you know a collective together to experience some piece of culture simultaneously yeah well i'm married into a sports family in peterborough and they're like they're there are sports people going back generations and so all of a sudden i'm a guy who grew up in a house where when my brother and i asked our dad if we could play hockey he said no and we never we never went back it's not we watched hockey and

watch baseball, watch tennis. So fast forward to my new adult life where I've been married into this sports family for 15 or 16 years. And now I live in Peterborough and I go regularly to see the Pets. I go regularly to see the Lakers. We have Lakers season tickets. And what, as I'm in show business, so I'm walking, I'm walking into these venues into the memorial center in Peterborough.

And I'm like, what is it about sports that brings people out in such numbers? Because I'm in the arts and I would love to have. these type of numbers in the arts. And I think what it is is the arts are have over time really started to streamline and perfect what it is it puts on stage. And I think with computers and tuning and quantization and just the general sense that like what we're listening to is possibly not what came out of the artist's mouth and hands. When you're at a sporting event, what you're seeing is what all art should be.

What you're seeing is somebody's going to win and lose. There's going to be a lot of emotion through this. It's going to be a very dynamic experience. We don't know what's going to happen. There's going to be people get hurt. There's going to be people win. There's going to be triumph. There's going to be grief.

All the stuff that I think probably used to live in arts, in the live arts, I should say, in the 20th century and before. Because you didn't have the sort of like, you know, panels of computers and hard drives behind the scene. Like, if Bono can't sing tonight, like, that's okay. We got three Bonos under the stage. And there's a track running anyway, so don't worry about it. You know, like I sort of feel like the arts need to move in the direction of sport insofar as that it offers a very dynamic experience like improvisation. And I mean, I know jazz in some ways it's like the only remaining improvisational sport.

I know that I guess you can do fish and Grateful Dead. That wasn't my scene. But there's a reason why that stuff is popular. Again, there's a risk when you get on stage and improvise. And I guess there's a risk when you ask me before you hit record, hey, can you do a cold opener? and let's see what happens. That to me is why I still love this job. I love the serendipitous aspects

because it's the part that keeps me feeling like I'm still in the moment, you know? So I'm going to see you, well, I'm going to see you on November 21st in Guelph, but many listeners are in the GTA and you're playing the Danforth Music Hall on November 15, okay? So that's like not this Saturday, this is next Saturday. Yeah, it's a week from Saturday, yeah.

So when you go to see you, a hawksley workman show for the uninitiated like I know you got a good rap on you we're going to get into that but like between songs do we get like some some hawk thoughts on like so huge huge banter I'm a in fact I did see somebody I think

probably somewhat pejoratively refer to me as Toxley workman in reference to the show I did at the Calgary Folkfest a few years ago so yeah there is a bit of banter I do like to gab as you know Mike okay so I have you know I have a lot of questions We're going to try to make this. I have threatened to make this an all-killer. No.

All-killer, no-filler hour here. So we're going to cover a lot of ground here. But Hawksley Night in Canada. See, I actually am dawning a T-shirt. I bought many moons ago, which is, what is the second, Hockey Night, which is because Phil Kessel had that accent or whatever. It was hacky night when Phil Kessel was. So what is the current status of Hawksley Night in Canada?

Hawksley Night in Canada was my pandemic show, and it was a live to air internet show that you bought tickets for. It was kind of like a slow-moving pee-wees playhouse. It was me playing songs, but I had built a whole lot of stop motion animation, and there was different segments. We had a call-in portion of the show. When I realized that, because I was living in my father-in-law's basement during the beginning of the pandemic because we had moved to Peterborough, we were looking for a house, hadn't found anything. Then they turned the world off. And then I'm like, holy smokes. Like, is music ever coming back? I remember even seeing people like musing aloud. Like, you know, I think the future

of singing is quiet in the age of COVID. And I was like, oh my God. I'm the loudest singer in town. What am I going to do? Anyway, so I built this show, Hawksney Night in Canada. And it really was kind of a real success. Like, I feel like it's arguably maybe even one of the best pieces of art I've ever made in some ways like it it had all that idealism of my 80s mindset like it hit me

I don't know if you saw the Paul Rubin's documentary it was interesting because he I watched it I loved it yeah I loved it too pee as himself yeah it really it floored me because but the biggest part that it hit me was that

as pop cultural like as as as we were the target of the pop culture in the 1980s, you and I. And it just got me thinking when Paul Rubens had said that Pee-Wee Herman was performance art. And then I thought, holy man, he's not wrong. And then it got me thinking about just how broad the appetite was for arts and culture

in the 1980s. We were ready for anything. I started to think of all of the quote-unquote performance art we were exposed to in the 1980s. You could argue Mr. T was performance art. Cindy Lauper was performance art. Pee-E-Herman was performance art. Max Headroom was performance art. There were, like, Hulk Hogan was performance art.

Like, you can, like, and we bought it. You know, like, I was talking about this with a friend, and we were talking about old video games, CalicoVision and stuff. And like, you know, I, whenever I got to play a video game, it was usually on some kids' black and white TV. And it was, so you'd get, you'd get the box, and then the front of the box would be this artist rendering

of what's going to happen in the game. It'd be beautiful. like two tanks and explosions and like you'd look at that like gorgeous piece of painted art on the cover and then you'd plug the game in and it was just gray scale like a dark block and a lesser dark block shooting at one another and but in the 80s kids mind we were like we were totally ready to fill in the blanks in our mind we saw it all all we needed was a picture to go hey look at this this is what needs to be in your mind when you're looking at your black and white TV and seeing this gray scale highly pixelated video game.

And we did. So much of the 1980s, we did the cultural heavy lifting as the audience. I really feel like we were happy to fill on the blanks. Oh, 100%. I'm with you on all of this,

but you had a podcast. Yeah. Like what's the, so not to confuse the two things. So Hawksley, I think, yeah, that was the show. That was the show during the pandemic. Right. The podcast called The Stumble Forward.

And it was also great. I mean, I loved doing it, as you know, doing a proper podcast, something that has legitimate production value and has sort of produced content, like is worth listening to. It takes a huge amount of energy. Like, it's a huge amount of energy. Now, maybe for you, you've got your infrastructure happening, but I just found after a couple seasons of my podcast,

we couldn't carry it any. further. I'd still love to do it. Even just the research aspect, like, I was doing two or three hours of research for each person, and that was a lot of extra stuff to add into my already busy life. It's like, hey, because I didn't want to sound like a clown when I was talking to people. You know, I wanted it to be very respectful, the same way that you do it. Like, there's only, if you're going to do this, because I've been interviewed by those kids who, like, have my Wikipedia open on their phone on their knee and it's like oh this is going to be fun like oh boy you know like oh so it says here that uh like is this this isn't an interview like call me when you're

ready yeah but you're look see i think we're cut from the same cloth like you're looking for a conversation like and not a scripted read your wikipedia you're looking for a conversation i just had the guys did you ever have any interaction with the guys from finger 11 uh no I'm always curious about Canadian rock stars like yourself and how they interact with other Canadian rocks. Okay, so before I tell the Finker 11th story, have you ever had any interaction with Bootsauce? Well, only that I thought boot sauce, I saw them from my rural childhood home. I was watching the vibe of Bootsau and going, get me to Toronto. I want to go where Boots sauce is.

Well, they were in Montreal. Oh, is it Montreal? That's right. me mom and Morgantaller and boot sauce That's right There was two options It was like go to Montreal and join that gang Or go to Toronto and join the

Queen Street Cowpaw gang Well Montreal had the doughboys Do boys Do boys Yeah yeah yeah yeah John Castner I just John Castner just made his Toronto mic debut

It was quite something Oh cool You know my You know what band from Montreal I listen to almost constantly Is Do I get to guess Do I get to guess

You get to guess because my brain has suddenly gone out. Yes! Like, on the 14th of October, very early in the morning. That dark kind of spooky tune, say, say to me, please say that it can't be. Like, I listen to that song four times a month to this day and have done for years.

Like I just, I remember it being on TV. And those were back in the days where like, Again, like, we would be hit by certain things. It was like an emotional ton of bricks. Like you'd just pass by much music and they would be trying this thing out. And it was like, it was that you could tell there was something historical going on. There was French and English. It was, again, very artful, very Canadian in some ways.

Like, it was like, hey, we're superimposing languages. And we had the media outlet back then to let that stuff happen. For guys like you and I who had broad senses of like what was possible and what we wanted to have in our lives, you know, like you could wander by even fish heads, you know what I mean? Or because I got high, you know, like I sort of feel like there's an aspect of the one hit wonder that takes me nostalgically back to the 80s as well, because typically a one hit wonder, it had the, it wouldn't have been uncommon for a one hit

wonder to be the best song in the radio that year, but too weird to like for a record company to go, we're going deep on Thomas Dolby. We love that. She blinded me with science stuff. Let's have more of that. It's like, we just want one of that so that we can continue to play that for the rest of time and watch the money pour in.

Thank you very much, Thomas Dolby. Now go off to Silicon Valley and develop the flip phone or whatever it is you're going to do. And that's how it works. You know, so that's kind of where I'm thinking. I think it's a sin against nature, Hawk, that you don't have a podcast, like an outlet like this, because I think you've overthought it

in the whole sense of production. Like I think you can get it down to 20 to 30 minutes of homework and then it's a live to air conversation like we're having right now. Do you think I'm going to edit this? I know you're not and that's wonderful and scary because it's getting harder and harder to just speak aloud sometimes because you don't know if you're going to move into shaky territory with any of the tribes. You know, because I'm a guy who just thinks my thoughts. I sort of, you know, maybe erroneously, I'm kind of wired to believe my eyes and ears. And I like the things I think, you know. So, but it's, you know, it's, it's, I'm with you, Mike.

I'd love to do this. You know what? You want to trade jobs? I mean, you're a hunk. You could do music and a heartbeat. Just show up with that hunky hair. Have you heard me sing, Hawk? Because if you'd heard me sing, you'd reconsider this.

You know who I spoke to yesterday? He was in the basement yesterday. I got, there's a lot of ground. I got to cover with you. I said an hour. I meant three hours. Okay, we're changing. We only got an hour.

Yeah, yeah. Ralph Ben-Murgy was here yesterday. Oh, great. I love Ralph, as you know. Well, yeah, we, during the pandemic, we all three got on some Toronto mic'd episodes. Absolutely. And, I mean, we covered, you know, thoughts on Netanyahu and is there a genocide in Gaza and all this. So I think when you have episodes like that, what you're talking about, which is really pop culture, you can self-edit.

You're a smart guy. What is your IQ, Hawksley? Oh, I don't know. Two digits, I'm sure. 98. 99? That's not bad here. Shout out to 299 Queen Street West. Okay, but I do think you can self-edit and go live to tape

even if it's once a week and even if it's just you riffing on observations, things you've seen. You could talk about pee-wee as himself. Is it pee-wee as himself? Yeah. I thought that was a tremendous documentary, but I'm a big pee-wee head anyways. Me too. Me too. I know you are because I've seen

Hawksley Night in Canada. Okay, so firstly, where the hell are you? Why aren't you in my basement. I'm in Quebec in the middle of nowhere. My wife is involved in Ottawa Blues Fest and there's small halls festival and there's sort of a wrap-up meeting going on. And so everybody has joined in this pretty beautiful like far-flung resort in the middle of like the wilds of Western Quebec. So I'm all about it. I saw Blue Jays and Chipmunks this morning. It's perfect. Okay, but you can see Blue Jays and Chipmunks in Toronto. Yeah, I know. I should have And I don't get to Toronto much.

It's hard to get in and out of the city, as you know. You know, there are things about, I find it hard to get in and out of Toronto. I just don't go. Even though I only live a short distance down the road, I have my life in Peterborough, and I just don't get to the city as often as I should. You know, I think when they closed House of Lords, I was like, what am I even coming here for? You know, like, what's the last sort of like stalwart from the olden days of the when my dad would, my hand would be sweating because my dad would be holding our hands for safety,

so hard on Youngstreet, for fear that we were going to be swarmed by skinheads in the late 1980s. I think we're almost the same age because I remember going downtown after high school or something wearing my three-hole docks. And that was a real concern that, oh, you might get rolled for your docks. Yeah, yeah. Like I have an 11-year, I mean, I have older kids, too. I never once had a chat with them.

Oh, yeah, when you go to the Eden Center, just be careful. they might roll you for your your Jordans or whatever you know is that wild it is wild and you know maybe i would i feel like that that information energy came before the 24 hour news cycle like you know god love my mom but she would have all she would have needed to hear is that new story once to go that's it that's the new rule skinheads are rolling people for their their doc martins And I think that that kind of a story just parked in sort of nervous moms, like wandering imaginations. Like, we were, that was it.

We were cooked at that point. I think it's like, oh, man, like, we're going to be lorded over for these shoes for the rest of time. Well, sort of like where every Halloween as a kid, you were worried about razor blades. Oh, Mike, Mike. Worried about, so I grew up with a mom who was an extreme warrior. and I also grew up in the middle of nowhere. Huntsville, right? North of Huntsville.

North of Huntsville, yeah. So I grew up on what was called Highway 592, the old highway at the corner of 592 in Bay Lake Road. Now, there was no houses you could have walked to. So my mom, who was a young, hip, cool hairstylist, and we had a hair salon in our house. And we'd have, because kids would come from miles around because this 20-some-year-old woman was like cutting hair,

like Howard Jones or Daryl Hall or whatever you liked, you know, she could come there because I had the young mom hairdresser. So she had a lot of probably gossip coming in, a lot of stuff to worry about, a lot of stuff to think about. What are we talking about? I can't even remember now. What am I supposed to say? Halloween candy has razor blades in it. Right. So my mom would go all out on our our costumes because she was very crafty. She's a, she's a fine artist now and a very successful one. So inevitably my mom would like make a cool outfit and then we'd have to get into our snowsuits, we'd get loaded into the car. My dad would drive us to five houses.

And that was it. And then my mom would still check our stuff. She would like, it was like, these are our neighbors. They lived down the road from us. They're not putting pins in the Mars bars. For goodness sake. So this fear, like, you know, being rolled for your docks, you're going to get razor blades stuck in your Halloween candy.

It kind of reminds me of growing up in thinking, oh, at some point in my life, I'm going to have to worry about quicksand. quicksand was an 80s thing like it was one of those archetypal things like you know here's one thing for you mike too i was with my brother the other day quicksand was like a it was an archetype it fit in as a as a fear modality for kids of a certain age persuasion well remember this from the 80s if you wanted to like denote sexiness it would be a um a soapy toe would come out of a right back like this like yes and in the 80s that meant well Ooh, something hot was about to happen.

Well, that was in Crocodile Dundee. A soapy toe? I feel like Linda... He was in everything. Yes, it was in everything. But Linda, I want to get her name right. So I'll be fact-checked on this later by Robert Lawson. But Kozwalski, I want to say, I'll just call her Linda Polish, okay?

She, I remember her in the bathtub watching Crocodile Dundee. Like, it's like etched into my memory, this soapy leg in the bathtub. Yeah. Now, that stuff was meant to transmit a distinct message to guys like you and I in the 1980s. Like, back when, you know, we were exposed to the bra section of Sears catalog. Like, it was a very limited hedonistic sort of outlets out there, you know. Okay, so let me ask you this. Have you ever in the wild, like literally in like a ravine or like a foresty area,

Have you ever, as a kid, encountered somebody's porno collection? Like hidden in a tree or something? No. Okay, so this was not, this happened multiple times, either high park or behind Rennie Park

and these different parks I would frequent in West Toronto as a kid. Like you would literally, you'd find in a tree, like a plastic bag with like old playboys and stuff in it. Like this is, this is like, and I just think of that as something that you would just encounter in the

wild in the 80s and today that's not happening hawk but i think probably pornography is more prevalent than ever like again i don't even know if i saw naked breasts until i was in my 20s honestly like it's like i don't know if there was images available maybe on benny hill or something like that like i saw the odd glimpse on benny hill on w u tv once in a while there'd be a shower scene and you could see a little nipple yeah i i remember that i mean of course i remember it it was like uh shocking in a way and I mean I'm grateful for the innocence of my upbringing frankly you know my mom also like we had a lot of strict policies in our house like my mom really guarded the cultural intake valve like she was guarding it pretty heavily and I remember like no horror movies like around like

all my friends who watched nightmare in elm street and Friday the 13th and they would sketch freddie what if freddie the freddie guy and the claws Freddy Krueger i didn't see any of that my mom read the like the PG-13 thing the the like it was gospel it was like science some of the scientists had given us this thing and we had to abide by these rules and I think because my mom had a hair salon there's a lot of people coming in with their own hot takes and stuff and I even remember my prints in the purple rain cassette being extracted from my collection and being put in sight on the top of the fridge as it went under review you know because I think you know darling Nikki is that has reference to master and stuff. And I feel like somebody must have come into my mom's shop and said,

ooh, that Prince album is quite racy. And then all of a sudden, my Prince album disappeared from my cassettes. And I literally, I felt like for a couple weeks, could watch the Prince tape on the top of the fridge. Like, me like, it wasn't even my favorite song, but I did know that there was stuff going on in Darling, Nikki, that was like, whoa. Like, this presents a vision of life that I only am starting to feel like I may have some sense of what's going on, you know? well you know rough trade had a big hit with high school confidential yeah and they had to i hope i have my stations right and everything because you know i've done a couple of thousand of these so it's all bleeding together a bit but i believe they had to re-record it for chum fm 104.5 chum fm because of the creamier jeans

line right right so just general shout out to carol pope any carol pope engagements from hawkley Hawksley workman. I was just honestly I was just texting with Carol Pope yesterday. That's fucked up right? We just chat for an hour and I'm going to randomly mention Carol Pope. I know it is. Yeah it is. And you texted with her yesterday.

I texted with her yesterday because she was asking if I could be involved in Kevin's Memorial show. I played, I actually sang with Carol teenage or a high school confidential, pardon me, at their Phoenix show, two years

ago when they were inducted into the Hall of Fame. And, yeah, I mean, that song is, how far ahead of its time could that song be? It's arguable, it's like, it's still ahead of its time to some degree, you know? You know, we lost Kevin Staples too soon. And shout out to my dear friend Rob Pruss from Spoons. We had a lot long talk about Kevin. He was playing. So that was at the Phoenix.

It wasn't the Elma combo. It was at the Phoenix, yeah. Okay, cool. Okay, so when you were here, Hawksley, we're going to set the table here. You know, it's going to be all killer, no filler. And if I leak over an hour, like, if I leaked over a titch, would you be in trouble? You want to know something? I'm in a hotel where we asked if we could have a slightly later checkout.

And they said, for $25. And it was like, is this the way the world works now? What time is the checkout? 11? 11, yeah. Oh, my God, okay. You know, I think I could probably go 11. No, you know what?

I'll hit the boat. You can always disappear and, you know, we'll get this done. Okay. but you and I have recorded several times together. Yeah, I love it. But ready for this? This is a bit of a mind blow. We've only met once.

Is that right? So this is the mind blow because I was thinking, Oh, Hawk is coming back on the show. He's been on several times. He's a beloved FOTM. Like, you're a top tier FOTM, Hawksley work with me. But then I'm like, okay. And I know I know I'm going to jump on this stage.

and maybe sing Angers' Beauty or something with you in Guelph. Like, I'm going to see you in Guelph. Okay, that's happening. And shout out to Ian Service and the VP who are going to join me for Hawksley Workman in Guelph. This is going to be amazing. But your only time in this basement was November 2019. So pre-pandemic, it was episode 536.

Mike and I chatted with you basically about... Let me guess. Was it October 30th or November the 1st? It was November. I don't have the day. I just know it was November 2019. And we had, I was an all killer, no filler hour. But here's, I'm going to just be very frank with you here.

I've only had this. So I've done a couple of thousand of these. Over a thousand unique guests. And once in a while I'll record of somebody and it'll click in a way where I'm like, we're going to be fast friends and there's going to be many visits from this person. Oh, yeah. That happened with you. We could be that too.

I know. But here's the other thing. You know who else it happened with who hasn't been back since. And this episode, I think was before yours. it happened with Tyler Stewart from Bare Naked Ladies. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So sometimes in person, you just, they get it. Like, you get it.

Tyler gets it. It's just like, we're making this beautiful music. And then you're like, oh, my God, like, they'll be over every month. This is amazing. Tyler's never been back. You've never been back. Well, you know, Tyler's probably a pretty busy guy. Like, he lives in Toronto.

To me, this is, this is performance art, what we're doing. I want to be as engaged as you are because we're making something that's supposed to be worth listening to. So I want to be invested in you. I also like you. And as we've said in the past, like, I like highly individual people. I like people who are living outside of the machine. I like people who have decided to go their own way and create something out of thin air that serves people in a way that can't be otherwise served. And you fit all that to me.

So that's why. And Tyler is that guy, too. I mean, what a hilarious and funny and thoughtful character that guy is. I wish that he look in an ideal world you and me and Tyler could all should all live on the same damn street you know but in the same house same house we should go we should go back in time roommate it we'll discuss this don't and Dave fattening up our tapeworms you know kids in the hall the one time I just talked to Ralph because the former manager of kids in the hall just passed away and I was asking Ralph for his thoughts on this gentleman but I had the most amazing experience with Scott Thomas. sent earlier this year on Toronto and yeah and yeah I love the audio and I've been singing that I have four kids and all of them at a very young age got the audio and do in do and day audio and day ohio indones unbelievable all right where's your juno I have hold it I have three juno really for what yeah well this is funny like I have three junoes in my house I have three juno's

in my house. Whenever we're updating the bio, it's like, I have three Juno's with my name on them. I have a, for video for jealousy or cigarette, like, best new artist, I think. And then I have a Juno that I got from the, because I was involved in the Waving Flag. Yes, you were. So those are my three Junos. They sit in my house. And I, you know, boy, if I could be somebody who could go back and talk to my younger self. Like, when I won the two Juno's the same year for the Delicious Wolves, I was living in Paris and feeling, really overfeeling myself. And I was like, go back to Toronto or go back to Canada for these Junos. It was like, oh, I don't want to. And then now I'd give anything to go back and to have enjoyed that experience because I wasn't

thinking straight. And now I don't imagine I'll ever, like, the Junos is a, it's not a, I don't imagine I'm getting to the Junos anytime soon is what I'm saying. It's got its own sort of mandate and I don't feel like I'm probably a part of it but like I so there was even a time when my juno's I had them at my parents different houses like it was like my mom had one my dad had one this is before I got the the wave and flagged you know and it was like I was like oh it's embarrassing to have these things around and now they're like they have like a you can see them in my house like if you come to my house and you're in the living room it's like whoa what are those are those junos like now they're in my house I'm I'm so proud of them you know I would

wear my Juno around my neck like I'm Flav or Flav. Yeah, I've thought about it. You know, during the Hoxton Night in Canada, I had the Juno's always in view because I had seen David Foster in a sort of a video thing, and he

had like his 1700 Grammys and other awards all like kind of pouring off the edge of a grand piano and I was like, what a flex. I was like, I got to do that. You know, I got to do the David Foster thing. That's funny. you mentioned David Foster because David Foster, of course, produced tears are not enough.

You were far... He's talked about this. I was so sad to not be included in the damn tears are not enough of you. I could go on and on and on and on about tears. Yeah, but weren't you like 10 years old? But I was so invested in that stuff. That stuff was meant for me. Yeah, but one...

Every day goes by. You know, I'm a big... We call it Tane around here. I'm a big Tane head. I got to collect... And Carol Pope was on Tane. So speaking of... Tears are not enough.

But I think for your gen, the equivalent to the tears are not enough, although obviously not as interesting to chat about every second episode of Toronto Mike. Maybe it should be. But it is the wave and flag for Haiti that you're a part of. I don't remember much of it. I was in and out of a studio in Vancouver. It didn't have the like the collective experience. Did you watch the making of We Are the World?

Did you see that dog? 100%. It blew my mind. How could I not watch that, Hawk? Well, I don't, I mean, all of us had to watch it. You know, I was always allowed to stay up to watch the Grammy Awards and the American Music Awards. So as a kid, I wanted to be Michael Jackson. You know, like it was my entire, it was the, it was an acute focus I had.

So I would stay up late to watch Michael Jackson do his stuff. And that was in the era when Lionel Richie would host and he'd win some awards and he'd say, outrageous. That was outrageous. And he hosted for a couple years and would say outrageous. Now fast forward all these years like I was just a kid taking in the television with no internet, no context.

To me these were people in outer space, you know. But there was that year where they were all on stage at the American Music Awards and they were all just chomping at the bit just to get out of there into the studio to record we are the world. Like it blew my mind to think that in with this sort of like

hindsight is 20, 20, that there was a whole atmosphere of showbiz happening that I understand now. Like, I get it. I get that when I was sort of in my almost famous time, like, people were like, maybe we could get them there by helicopter. Like, stuff like that happened to me back in the day. And then I was watching and just kind of looking at the comparison study of, as somebody who lives in showbiz, it's like, I had no idea as a kid that there was so much showbiz happening behind the scenes at the American Music Awards that everybody was going to go and

then make this song that was going to blow my mind, you know? And they weren't going to invite Madonna. Is that right? I don't know. I guess they didn't, I can't remember that part. Well, noticeably absent, and apparently she wasn't invited. So, like, think about that year. Think about that year, 85, I guess.

Yeah. 84, 85. Bottom line is, Madonna is one of the biggest, you know, pop stars on the planet. And she's not invited. They couldn't get prints. You saw that. They tried to lure Prince with Tina Easton bait. Yeah, because he wanted to be in his own room to do a solo.

I love that. I just think... Well, you know, tears are not enough. They let Bruce Coburn record his part from... He was in Germany. And I think... Yeah, I think Jim Valance, or I think it was Jim Valence,

flew to Germany to get this and then flew it back. But they do make exceptions for certain stars. But okay, all right. I was just texting with Bruce Coburn yesterday as well. You know how hard I tried? Bernie Finkelstein is an FOTM. Yeah. Oh, I love Bernie. In our thoughts, I don't think he's doing well right now.

I just want to say we all love Bernie. Like one of my favorite sit down. Yeah, I love Bernie. I've been asking him, who was an FOTM, to get Bruce on the show for, I think now we're going on year 12. Okay. And it hasn't happened yet. But listen, here's what I'm going to do, Hawk, because we're going to try to get you out by 11. I'm going to just right now quickly shout out some partners.

And then I have questions for you from FOTMs. And then I have questions from me because it's my day. show okay so this is the exciting new sponsor i wish you were here because i have a moose mug for you this is a moose mug from christmas vacation oh i love that okay and that is courtesy of retrofestive dot ca it is canada's pop culture and christmas store if anyone listening wants to save 10% use the promo code fotm at retrofestive dot ca okay what an amazing uh partnership because This is important, Hawk. Take a note. Or maybe I should just send this to Jennifer,

since that's how you communicate with Hogsley Workman, okay? Very important here. November 29, it is the last Saturday of November. At noon, Eastern time, by the way, okay? Noon, November 29, at Palma's Kitchen, that is in Mississauga, second floor. So not only am I recording live, and people like yourself, Hawk,

could pop on the mic for a couple of minutes in, say hello and share your holiday greetings for everybody. But everybody eats Palma Pasta for free. Everybody drinks Great Lakes beer for free. And everyone gets a gift from RetroFestive. Oh. And you know what it costs to attend TMLX21 on November 29? No.

Nothing. Unreal. Yeah. Unreal. You got to be there, okay? You got to be there if you're not on tour, which you're on. But we're going to end with that. Okay, so shout out to quickly, Doug Mills from Blue Sky Agency. If anyone listening is looking for dynamic and creative work environments, you can write Doug.

He's Doug at blue skyagency.cage, Doug. He knows his stuff at Blue Sky Agency. Ridley Funeral Home, have a great podcast called Life's Undertaking, and we always say shout out to Ridley Funeral Home, Recycle My Electronics.C.A. That's where you go, Hawk. a room full of old cables, old devices. I got that, yep. You probably have a whole basement full.

Go to... Yeah, recycle my electronics.ca, put in your postal code and find out where you can drop it off to be properly recycled. Nick Iienes has a great podcast called Building Toronto Skyline. In fact, next week, I'm stealing one of his guests. He had on this great architect named Les Klein, and Les is going to be in the basement because Les is the guy Moses hired to make $2.99 Queen. Street, the hub for city TV and much music, and to fulfill his vision.

So we're going to talk in depth about the building itself, 299 Queen Street West, with the architect himself, Les Klein. That's exciting, right? That's heavy. Yeah, that's crazy. That's what we're doing over here. Okay, and last but not least, of course, I want to give some love to, uh, that's everybody. Oh, Kinling.

I'm not sorry. Hey, Hawk, I can't remember. Are you a cannabis guy? I can appreciate it. Okay. Well, if you ever require cannabis or cannabis products, just go to shopkindling.ca. You order it there.

In under an hour, it's in your hands. Like, it's delivered in under an hour. You can track the delivery and it's discreet, okay? Nobody knows you're ordering weed, okay? Not that there be a stigma with a rock star ordering weed. but shop kindling.ca is where FOTMs go for that. Okay, here's some questions for you. All right.

This came in from somebody named, I hope I got the name right, D.J. Jameson. Do you know that name? No. Because he writes, Say hi for me, and thanks for the gold record,

we earned that shit together. D.J. Jameson. Jay, Jameson would have been, Jameson Elliott would have he engineered lover fighter what a small world

okay that was on blue sky okay so that came in from DJ Jameson T.O. Joe says and I didn't even know this I can't wait to hear your answer

what was it like working with I hope I say this right my French is rusty Marion Cotier yeah how do you say that name Marion Cotier yeah

I nailed it okay and how did that come to pass and are you still in touch? I had this wonderful time in my life in the early 2000s where I really started to resonate with in France and I had this funny like famous in France

a couple of years where I lived in Paris and it was the kind of thing where like you'd get into cabs and I'd hear my song on the radio or like you know you'd I was always picked up at the airport by a limousine or whatever like I kind of had this weird thing happening to me in and around like 2001 to 2003, and I lived in Paris and kind of, I did a lot of media,

I did a lot of TV and, and, and radio. And so, Marianne Cotillard was like similarly, like, launching her career at the time. And she, it, my record label guy was friends with her from school. And we just hung out a lot. I remember being like at a very wine heavy, like, record company. meeting that Marion was at and like and then we're we're being let in the back door of a museum in Paris where a ping pong table is being sort of like rolled out amongst the like relics and like we're sort of drunkenly playing ping pong into the middle of the wee hours with

me, Marianne some other like music business people and you know so I uh that day that she did that because she was in a video of mine and she did that work for free and she was becoming very very, very famous. It was like a total, like, you're kidding me. How'd you get Marianne Cotillard in your video? And then I've written a song for her. I was hanging out with Marian in Los Angeles. I wrote a song for her for, um, uh, she was doing a commercial for a luxury brand and needed this song. So I wrote this song. And she was there because she knew she was about to win the Academy Award for I can't remember what movie. And so I was kind of hanging out with her that on the Saturday. Is it chocolate?

lot? Maybe, no, it wasn't chacula, but, oh, I know what it was. It was the, um, the petit wazo. It was the one about, um, the piano, the French singer. Oh, Edith Piaz. Yeah, I Edith, Piaz. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. La Vian Rose. Yeah, so she, I believe she was winning an Academy Award for that. And I was around her. And it was kind of weird, because it was like, we were doing vocals and stuff. And she's like, oh, I got to have a lunch with Glenn Close. And it was like, you know, Glenn Close was kind of talking her down. And she'd float. And she'd float. and a bunch of her childhood friends in from France to hang out, just to kind of like keep the gravity in the room.

And it was pretty interesting to be around that, if I'm being honest. Well, you live in the life, Hawk. That's why I get to tap into it once in a while on, I'm trying to Mike. Glenn Close, just when Robert Redford died, I revisited The Natural because I had it on, I guess there was a free preview of like first choice or Super Channel or something. And I recorded the VHS, the Natural.

So I actually, you know, as you know because you're similar vintage back in the day whatever you had on VHS that's all you could watch on demand was so I saw the natural I think but 130 times okay oh yeah but Glenn close is in that and uh love that movie I think that I mean I hear I hear mixed reviews but I'm like what are you talking about what a great movie but there you go I don't think I know it I feel like that's one of those adulty movies that yeah but it had been yeah it is adulty it's very adulty you almost forget how adultity it is but a lot of that movie is on the baseball field and very basebally so it fits right in with like a i don't know a field of dreams or a bull during

yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so that's an amazing story but i have coming on this program in like a week or maybe it's two weeks alan doyle making his Toronto mic debut oh yeah so you produced great big c and an Alan Doyle i think his first solo record i did as well Alan is uh i mean you could there should be a science fair project just to just to analyze the animal energy of Alan Alan. Alan is like metabolic he's a metabolic wonder you know I learned a lot working with Alan he's he's a he's a very he's a thoughtful and heart driven guy and he understands show business like he's like he's like if you watch Alan Doyle for a while you learn stuff you know and he's that guy so I love Alan and it was so weird even when I was a

Because I produced a Great Big C record, and I saw Great Big C videos on much music. Like, I remember when they were in their, like, rugby outfits, like, in doing a rugby video. And I was like, I even had a moment when I was in the studio with these guys going, like, I mean, I used to watch you guys on TV. Like, how was this even happening? Oh, no, absolutely. Did you get to work with Russell Crow? I've met Russell Crowe because he did a movie with Renee Zellweger, and Renee. Hey, Zellweger was a big fan of the Delicious Wolves record.

And when they did that fight movie, the boxing movie in Toronto, the two of them really connected on that. Cinderella, man. I lived nearby where a lot of that was filmed. I followed. Oh, quick, quick aside. And we're going to get right back to this story about Russell Crow. But the night my second born was born, the night. Yeah, so in my second, it was like three in the morning or something when my second born was born. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Michelle. Shout out to Michelle. And that night, I remember, I was driving from Women's College Hospital and Simpsons or Sears was dressed up to look like Madison Square Gardens in the 30s or whatever and they were filming Cinderella Man and I was stopped by the cop so that the 1930s could happen to my left with Madison Square Gardens

and I can't tell you how surreal that night was. I had to go home because I had a firstborn to take care of my mom's staying with them. But anyway, that's my memory of Cinderella Man. Another movie I feel was underappreciated. It's a Ron Howard film, I think. It's very good. I think it was great, too.

It came out around another boxing movie, the Clint Eastwood boxing movie. I think they came out around the same time, and it was like only one was, I think you're only allowed one boxing movie per year for the market, I think is how it works. I think so. Anyway, yeah, so Russell and Renee, I hung out with Russell at a venue in Sydney, Australia, because we both played the same place. And I met him, and he was very, I mean, the gladiator movie is a movie I still watch if I'm flying and it's like, it's a guarantee.

It's like, oh, you got three hours. Watch gladiator. I've watched Gladiator umpteen times. And so it was pretty interesting to be in the room with the gladiator. He was very kind and deferential to me. If I'm being honest, he was like, the way he addressed me was very complimentary. Like he was at that point, I think he was still really into my record and was like, addressed me as somebody who was like, you're really in my life right now kind of way.

And it was really touching. But I haven't seen him since. We've communicated a bit on Twitter. He put a lovely tweet out about me like a year or two ago, just remembering. He said, I just listened to this record again after not having heard it for a while and it's still great. And it was just like, oh, lovely stuff like that.

You know, I loved Russell in Rompers Stomper, which I think was his first movie. Do you remember that? I saw him for the first time in, what was the film noir with Danny DeVito and Kim Basinger? What was that movie? The film, well, it was a big one. I think it won Best Picture at the Oscars.

Oh, okay. Yeah, so hold on, because I can't even proceed until I get this. And I don't know why I'm banging. It is called, I think, L.A. Confidential. Why did I forget that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's my first memory of Russell Crow. Yeah.

I mean, there was other good ones. There's beautiful mind. There's the one he did with Al Pacino about the cigarette company. You know the one I'm talking about where he's a cigarette exec. 100% that's exceptional these are great moves but you know why i brought up russell crow and i'm only speeding you along because i know i'm going to try to hit this 11 o'clock yeah yeah we're run out of time i know crazy we have to get you in this basement again next time you're coming through town which i understand you are coming through town you need to talk about this well

danforth musical is that what you're talking about yes of course november 15th you're at the danforth music hall so just to tie up the russell crow thing is he sings on a i think it's a great big c album that you produced i don't think he sang on that record he made may have sang on a fall on a record after that. Maybe he did. Well, you know how I know

because my source for this is discogs and they're always correct. Yeah, yeah. Okay, maybe it's true. Maybe he did overdub. I can't remember that.

Okay. So what can you tell us all about Danforth Music Hall November 15? Are there even tickets available to see Hawksley Workman? There are tickets available. They're going quick

and it's a venue I've played over the years many times. I love it. It's like it's like one of those venues when you walk, like I remember when I first moved to Toronto and I'd walk past the Rivley. It was like, man,

I just want to play the Rivoli. I just want to be at the Rivley, you know? And I feel like the Danforth is one of those venues that once I did the Rivley and my career was moving up, it's like, next stop is the Danforth. You know, it's got a true-to-life theater feel. It's got an old theater feel to it. It's, you know, the last couple of shows I did

there with my band. This show was me and my long, you know, suffering piano player of 26 years, Mr. Lonely. But we're also doing like this, we're doing a synth pop set within the sort of standard duo set, because I, you know, I can't rest and just keep doing the same thing over and over. So we're changing the game. It's also, if you're a fan fan, I'm playing songs that you've never heard live on this tour, for sure. Well, all fans, whether you're a fan of Hawksley-Wrickman on Toronto Mike, or a fan of his

great music, you got to get a ticket and check him out at the Danford Music Hall. I mentioned I will be seeing you in Guelph of all places, even though I live in Toronto. Maybe both, who knows, but you do, your latest EP, I find you to be a prolific artist in that you produce a lot of material, but you have an EP called Fly Like an Ego. Yeah, yeah. That's like your latest offering, and I have a good source on this. You're playing obsessed and love to love life, which are Fly Like an Ego jams on this tour. Yes, that is correct.

And I'm so excited about it. You know, Obsessed actually did really, really well on satellite radio this year. It was one of those things where it was like, you know, there's, you've got to really challenge yourself to re, you know, the, the entertainment industry has changed so much. There's, there used to be like six prizes in the Canadian music business, and now there's like negative 14 prizes. And so if you win a prize, like getting on Toronto Mike or getting something on internet radio or whatever, like you've got to. got to celebrate it. I got to do one hand cartwheels through the house. Like there was a time when like at the at the tail end of the record business when I started my career and it'd be like, Hawk, you're going straight to the top. You know, like that kind

of like, you know, you just listen to me, Hawk. And now we're all just like, it's, it's a rowdy business. And that's the thing that you've, you've, that's what I love about what you've done is you've like, because it's not easy to build what you've built. It's not easy to continue to, to nurture the thing that I've built over these years. Like, like the world kind of really is designed for people to go to one of three stores to like one of three singers to bought to like one of three sports teams like it's kind of designed for you to like you just step into this pair of pants and we've done all the thinking for you you've created a product that requires an audience of people who are still thinking for themselves you know and I feel like that's the same thing for me like I feel like my audience are one of those like they're like smart gen Xers who seek something like unique and extraordinary, as we were trained to seek unique and extraordinary in the 1980s. We have the same audience. Hawk, this is why we need to collaborate more than we have the same audience, smart gen Xers.

Yeah, that's who we, that's, we're a, we're a highly competent, very dynamic intellectual. We were also, we're, we can fix our stuff, you know, like we're a very unique. And I know that we are not like a majority stakeholder on the planet at the moment. There's like, I think there's more millennials than us, but we're, we connect back to a time when like you and I would have been riding around with a stick and that stick was a sword and then it was a telescope and then it was a you know then it was a golf club I don't know like it was like we used our imaginations we lived in our imaginations we still the you and I have gone to our imaginations and created something that was born in our imaginations and here we

sit today doing the thing that we love to do thanks to our imaginations what about three rapid fire questions to see us out and then you can get out of that hotel before they charge you, okay? Real three rapid fires, okay? Yeah. This one might be really quick. Do you have any stories or engagements at all with the trues who are in this basement on Monday? Not really, no.

What do you think is your most popular song? Hard to say. I would say it's probably strip teas or Smoke Baby or Battlefords. See, I'm not a Spotify guy but I'm a premium YouTube guy, and according to my

analytics, jealous of your cigarette has the most views. But that's because that video was quite compelling. So that video kind of... Yeah. Yeah, that video gets a lot of look still. Like, it's funny, I'll still poke around some nights

if I've got nothing to do and I'll look on the YouTube and I'll take a... I'll have a little self-reflective. And people still comment, like, we just read a comment today that was like, I thought that this was a dream I had as a kid. I didn't realize this was a real video. Wow. What do you think is the best song that you have ever written? Probably Battleford's. Maybe don't be crushed.

I feel like I've written like three or four really, really high bar things. And then those things, they live to like to poke at you for the rest of your life. Like it's like, hey, can you write another one like this? It's hard to do. I can imagine. I also am so grateful that I've written those songs. All right. Now the real last, I think I said, I lied and said, three and I meant four. Okay, last question. And we might have covered this your first visit, but I can't remember, so you're going to do it again quickly. Is there an origin, like this name,

Hawksley Workman? What's the origin story behind the name, Hawksley Workman? Because fun fact, that's not your birth name. Oh, that's not my birth name. I changed my name to Hawksley Workman when I was about 20 or 21. And Hawksley is my mom's maiden name. And, and, And I was born Ryan Corrigan. Corgan, my Corrigan side of the family is, oddly enough, I've been creating more connections with that side. But we were a, so I was a real high achieving kid. I was like in everybody's face.

I was coming in first. I was like singing at the church and like, and went in the speech thing. And like, and I had this thing where, and then I was like a little young, like super drummer kid in school. And everybody was like, look at this kid go. And I had this, like, weight on me as a kid, like, it was like, because everybody thought, oh, big things are coming from this kid, you know, and it started to, and so by the time I was, and then I'd do something and people like, can you believe how good he is?

He's only 16. Can you believe how good he is? He's only 17. And I started to feel the heat of that. Like, whoa, like, people don't say, can you believe how good he is, and he's only 27, you know? So it's like, so I kind of jettisoned Ryan Corgan because I was tired to carry in his bags around. I built Hawksley Workman because Hawksley, I wanted to celebrate my grandma who was still a live at the time, who was a magical woman who saw ghosts and lived a very

rarefied existence. She taught my brethren and I to be total weirdos. She let us wear makeup after we won poker, after we rolled cigarettes for my grandpa. We would wear makeup and go buy Legos down at the Eaton store in Huntsville. And like, so I wanted to make sure that I was changing my name. I knew that. I wanted an artist's name. I didn't want Ryan Corrigan to be anywhere near me anymore. I still don't want him necessarily to be around me and so yeah i i changed my name the workman part was like a little message to myself if i could go back i'd probably change that again but the workman piece was like i'm a i'm a perspiration over inspiration type of guy like i'm a show up and make something show up and trust that it's going to be

great that's what you do every day show up and trust that it's going to be great um i'm not a let's wait around to see if the inspiration hits me type of character i i fully believe the inspiration is is a constant I've, you probably feel the same. I don't, I don't, like, I don't tempt inspiration. Inspiration is a constant. You just got to keep working to have it. Well, dude, this was awesome. You used a term earlier.

You used the term metabolic wonder. That's how I describe Hawksley Workman, okay? You are a metabolic wonder, and I can't wait to see you in Guelph on November 21st. Maybe I'll be at the Danforth musical November 15th. Can't get enough hawk. And I can't wait to get you back in the basement. You're one of the top tier.

FOTMs. Dude, we really do need to talk again about stuff. You know, the pandemic was wonderful. Because we talked a lot. People talked in the pandemic. I had, you know, I'm an early morning guy, right? So I had a couple of like standing phone dates to the pandemic. Do you know Rich Marcella, friendly rich?

Oh, yeah, he's been over. He's been over. Yeah, he's wonderful. Well, he and I had a stand, had a standing 5 a.m. phone call talk every Friday. He's an FOTM. We were, so, yeah, let's talk. We got to talk.

But you're right, I got to go before they try. You got to go, but for those who aren't watching the YouTube are just listening, which is most people, your wardrobe, your look right now, Hawksley, it's like if you took Where's Waldo and you stripped out the color? Yeah, it is. It is a gray scale where's Waldo. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Peace out, Hawk. See and Guel. See you later, buddy. Thanks so much. And that brings us to the end of our 1,794th show. I am serious, listeners. TMLX21 costs you nothing. No charge. You don't even have to RSVP. You don't have to fill in a form.

There's no ticket required. So just show up at Palmer's Kitchen. Get to the second floor. I'm talking about November 29, the last Saturday of the month, at noon. I'm recording live. Hebsy will be there Peter Gross will be there Larry Fedorik will be there

Honestly I got some other A-listers I don't want to ruin all the surprises But I've got a few tricks up my sleeve for November 29th But that's not what's important What's important is that you will be there And you could pop on the mic It's up to you But you definitely get a free meal from palm of pasta

It's delicious, you'll love it So that's going to cost you nothing I am bringing fresh craft beer from Great Lakes. That'll cost you nothing. And RetroFestive will bring a gift for the first 75 people. So this is going to be a magical afternoon. My driver, the VP of Sales, is all set to get me there, to get the gear there. I've got the great Al Grego who's going to bring the amp, the speakers, so everybody can hear us.

What a day. TMLX 21, November 29. noon at Palma's Kitchen. And that! I already did that part. I'm doing it again. And that brings us to the end of our 1,794th show. Much love to all who made this possible.

That's retro festive, Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Nikaini's, Kindling, Recycle My Electronics.ca, Blue Sky Agency, and Ridley Funeral Home. See you on Monday. The Trues are in the basement making their Toronto-Mite debut. Don't you dare miss it. We're going to be able to be. We're going to be able to be.

Thank you.