Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Hill Kourkoutis: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1659

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

In this 1659th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with JUNO Award-winning producer, songwriter, engineer, mixer, artist, multi-instrumentalist, and filmmaker Hill Kourkoutis about her Toronto FIF...A theme for the World Cup, musicians she's worked with, videos she's directed, TV shows she's written themes for and so much more. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Joining me today, making her Toronto mic debut, it's Juno award-winning talent, Hill Corcutus. Welcome Hill. Thanks for having me. What kind of name is Hill? At first I thought it was like Hillary, but it's two L's in Hill. Okay. I'm a Hillary with two L's in Hill. Okay. So I'm a Hillary with two L's. All right.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So Hill is just like Mike. Exactly. Okay. That's, that's easy. Okay. I just want it to Mike of Michael. All right. Well, I wondered what, what, what, what Hill was and then I decided it must be Hillary,
Starting point is 00:01:58 but then I'm like, why is there two L's? But of course there could be two L's. Like, what am I talking about? Symmetry. It's lovely. nice to meet you We're gonna learn a lot about you. I have some audio I'm going to play along our journey, but are you ready for like a small world story? I love I love small world stories. Yes, because you know, it's a small world after all
Starting point is 00:02:20 What days today Wednesday? Monday night. Okay, so this is a weird normally I record and then I drop it right away But actually today is Stu Stone day. So your episode won't drop today. It'll drop tomorrow or Friday but we're recording on a Wednesday and Monday night a woman made her Toronto mic debut and I'm gonna play a clip from her right off the top. Okay. Okay. So listen in the headphones for this. I don't know. I guess me and my friends during COVID, we had this great group of check-ins like Madison Violet was on it.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Sarah McDougall, Sarah Slean Hill was on a Hill record as Amanda. Reum, I mean, Do you have a message for Hill? I can say it now and I'll cut it out. I want to tell her that I'm so proud of her and she's kicking ass and I love the soccer theme that she did for FIFA. And now Mike, I want you to play that theme.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah, I heard it. I actually heard it on the radio. After I booked Hill, I heard it on the radio, believe it or not, and then it all came together in this perfect storm here. She's just so brilliant. And I started watching Hill when she was 19, no, she was underage on stage.
Starting point is 00:03:24 When I worked at the orbit room, she would come to the orbit room with Tara Sloan. They were good friends. Tara's a good friend of mine too. We're both Virgos. And I remember seeing little baby Hill killing it, just slaying on her guitar, probably 18 years old, maybe 17, at the Elma Combo, the old Elma Combo, when the stage was risen and you just walked in. Pre- exactly. And, uh, gosh, she was so good. She's so talented, but you know, she, she's a mastermind and I love that she's getting the accolade that she deserves. And especially as a woman, um, you know, in, in tech, like as a producer, as an engineer, she's paving the way for so many other young female and non-binary people.
Starting point is 00:04:04 It's like incredible what she's doing. so what a trailblazer. Tell her that I'm, I'm, I love her. She still has to invite me over to her house with her dog and Abby so that we can have some, I don't know, you know. She can cook me something Greek. We always talk about our culture. We're big on our cultures. That's Andrea, right? That's Andrea. I'm glad you could recognize the voice there. There you go. This just ran, like Monday night, she drops your name.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And I'm like, OK, she's visiting Wednesday. And then I had her record that message for you. So how does it feel hearing such praise from such a talented woman? It feels beautiful. And yeah, I love Andrea. I think she's absolutely brilliant, too. So, feelings very mutual.
Starting point is 00:04:52 And then I know she brought in the name Tara Sloan. So I wrote a note to Tara who's been over a few times and I said, like, we're due for a catch up. And she says, yes, for sure. And then she said, tell Hill, I say hi.
Starting point is 00:05:04 So so it's just this, I don't even know these, you know, clicks exist until it sort of gets uncovered. And I think it's just wild to me that coincidentally, because you were not booked related to Andrea or Romolo, say the last name for me. Ramolo. Yeah. Okay. Cause I always want to say Ramolo, but it's not Ramolo. It's Ramolo. Okay, that's but I got yours right, right? Yeah, you nailed it. You nailed it. It's all Greek to me, you know this but but how do you know Tara? Can you give me a little Tara? So Tara and I actually go way back. I played guitar for her solo record
Starting point is 00:05:37 And I also directed the first music video I ever directed was a video for Tara Sloan. I Think she's very talented. She's extremely talented. Yeah she's my big sister. Okay. I love her. And you never know who's buddies with who in this world, right? So you and Tara are very close, okay, and you're buds with Andrea Ramelow as well. Mm-hmm. Okay, you got a whole thing. Well I feel like that's a group right there. It's a fun group. That's a collective. That's a great group. Okay, call me when it's time to name Name that group. So Andrea mentioned we're gonna start with this and then we'll go back and learn more about you
Starting point is 00:06:10 but so many questions when I said you're coming on and when most of the questions were related to The FIFA theme that Andrea alluded to I'll just read one from barrage Davé and barrage wrote It would be interesting to know how Hill got selected to record the FIFA theme. So maybe I play this thing now, as I promised Andrea I would. So I'm going to play the whole thing. Is that okay? Yeah, absolutely. And then we're going to talk all about this and then we'll go back and talk about where your Junos are kept and all that important stuff. Okay. I got some more good audio. I'm a man who's been robbed, robbed, robbed
Starting point is 00:06:45 I'm a man who's been robbed, robbed, robbed I'm a man who's been robbed, robbed, robbed I'm a man who's been robbed, robbed, robbed Oh, to the rest they seek me home So Wow! So I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame
Starting point is 00:08:36 I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I'm gonna be the one to blame I recognize those notes at the end there. Oh my goodness. That's a shout out to the TTC. Tell me everything you can about what we just heard in how you were selected to create it and what you did to do it. Tell me everything you can about what we just heard and how
Starting point is 00:09:05 you were selected to create it and what you did to do it. Tell me everything, Hill. So wild story, it was just after New Year's. I checked my Instagram and I had a message request from a FIFA account and it said we have this exciting opportunity to run by you. And at first I thought it was a hoax because you don't get a message like that every day. I'm like, am I getting spammed? But then, yeah, I clicked on the user and it was the FIFA World Cup official page. So yeah, I got in touch with them and they proposed this really amazing project, which is the Sonic ID project.
Starting point is 00:09:41 So this is the first year that there's multiple no cities for the FIFA World Cup 26 right and each host city selected a producer to produce a Remix or a sonic ID of the official official FIFA World Cup 26 theme song So so you were selected for the Toronto theme because we're hosting some World Cup matches next summer Yeah, exactly amazing like so do you have any idea how you got on their radar? So you were selected for the Toronto theme because we're hosting some World Cup matches next summer. Yep, exactly. Amazing. Like, so do you have any idea how you got on their radar or why?
Starting point is 00:10:10 Was it the Juneau Award? What's going on? I have no clue, but I didn't ask. I just went for it. You know, we never ask, right? Because I had some similar to you. I had like an email and I'm like, is this spam or not? And they're like, oh, will you come on CNN tomorrow morning?
Starting point is 00:10:23 This is what it was. This is a gig gig a week ago. And you have this whole like, if everybody's first question to you following your appearance would be, how did they know you? Like, why did they ask you? And then you realize that you don't actually ever ask that question. Like, it's sort of like, you're glad you were asked, you do it. You were asked, you were tapped on the shoulders that we need you to create this Toronto theme
Starting point is 00:10:46 for the FIFA World Cup, 2026. You just did it. You didn't ask why me, because you don't want them to think, yeah, why you? We'll go ask. Where's a dead mouse or whatever? Like let's go get somebody else. I know, major imposer syndrome pops up.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Yeah. So we don't know why, but you were obviously you're on the radar because of. Somehow, yes. You're on my radar too. Look, you're in why, but you were obviously you're on your radar because of... Somehow, yes. Yeah, you're on my radar too. Look, you're in the... Now you've arrived. Okay, sorry, Q wanted you, Tom Power. And I said, no, Hill's coming on Toronto mic is what's going on here. So tell me about the creation of that theme, if you don't mind. I heard I literally was driving my kid to soccer appropriately enough and I was on terrestrial radio, good old fashioned radio.
Starting point is 00:11:25 A station played it because they were interested in the TTC sound. Oh, interesting, yeah. So they kind of isolated that part and they were kind of shouting you out for putting the TTC sound into this Toronto theme. But can you give us a little insight into, did you always know you were gonna have that element,
Starting point is 00:11:44 that audio element in there and maybe creating this theme? I mean, initially I kind of had to meditate on what Toronto is and what that would mean sonically. And I think that Toronto is so many things because we're so culturally diverse. And that was kind of the first bit of inspiration that I took from in the second bit of inspiration was the Toronto sound, which is essentially the sound in popular music that has put Toronto on the map,
Starting point is 00:12:09 made famous by Drake in the weekend and pardon next door. Sure. And then, yeah, and then I was trying to think if there were any specific kind of sounds that were very recognizably Toronto, especially for locals, you know, hearing that. And that's when the iconic TTC chime kind of came to mind so and I'm glad you you added that it's and well done so this is this is a fairly new release
Starting point is 00:12:35 that the you've got this Toronto theme and there we just heard it there and I'm sure now people will be will be hearing it often. I'm pretty jazzed. Do you get a free ticket? That I don't know yet. I mean, honestly, I wouldn't say no. Because again, I don't even know the schedule. I don't even know if it's been released yet, but I'm assuming Canada plays a match at We will be. We have qualified because we are a host city.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And now the other teams that are going to qualify they're starting to qualify now they're doing all the qualifying games so okay we'll find out soon who will be paired like I hear you I follow this just enough to be dangerous but I know that we do get the automatic because we're hosting but I also know we would have made it anyway yeah we're kicking ass right now which is really awesome. And I believe, I think, don't quote me, but I think the first game will be a Canada versus someone else game.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Of course, of course, which is the way it should be. Absolutely. Now, you know, we've never won a World Cup match in our country's history. You know this. Yes, I do. So I think your theme will break that streak. Let's hope. We got our I do. So I think your theme will break that streak. Let's hope. When we got our first goal, I watched it, I was in Montreal and I was watching, I'm
Starting point is 00:13:49 trying to remember who we were playing, but we, Alfonso Davies scored a goal. And was it Croatia? It'll come back to me. But bottom line is, it was like, oh, we actually scored a goal. Like that was a big deal to score a goal. Next stop is to win a match. It's going to happen. I feel good about it.
Starting point is 00:14:05 Okay. It's a good team, right? Yeah. And shout out to Tobias von, who I think is on the live. Okay. I have, you know, I just said Tobias von because I know he's a big soccer head and I know he's on the live stream. And then I popped in and he says, uh, June 12th, 2026. It'll be Canada versus we don't. It's the first game yeah right so June 12 2026 the they aren't allowed to call it BMO during this no it's Toronto Stadium right yeah interesting so at Toronto Stadium I'm sure they'll play that song I think yeah I think it's gonna be the song for better give you a ticket Hill honestly I won't say no okay and it was Croatia that Alfonso Davies, good Edmonton boy,
Starting point is 00:14:48 Alfonso Davies scored that goal against we didn't win that match. But it's okay. We went with our still plenty of time. So you we are going to go back, learn how you came to be the FIFA Toronto theme composer here. But you mentioned Tara Sloan. So you worked with Tara Sloan, but I couldn't help but notice I just going to shed out a couple other names you worked with. You can tell me how you worked with them. The Weeknd? Yes. Okay, can you tell me, because that's a big freaking name, Hilda. I mean, not, no, fall to respect the Tara Sloan from Joy Drop, who's excellent. Yeah, which I love Joy Drop growing up. Yeah, so The Weeknd, I was actually in his first band during the House of Balloons, like the trilogy mixtape era so I was his bass player slash keyboard player slash backup singer
Starting point is 00:15:32 That's amazing yeah, it was a really fun time for sure yeah, but you know I'm I'm Gen X here I'm a little older than you and I need to shout out I should have wore my t-shirt, but this this band has been in the basement I'm proud to say but you worked with Martha and the Muffins yeah I did I was really lucky to work with them I absolutely love Martha well tell me was it a remix of Echo Beach what's going on no we I actually played on I was it was it the 25th anniversary of recording of Echo Beach but yeah Martha and Mark had released a new album called
Starting point is 00:16:06 Delicate. I think it was a Delicate I think that's the name of it. Anyway I played in their band as well and then we've also co-written a bunch of songs together that we each of us have recorded in our respective solo projects. Okay so now as we find out you know how Hill became this producer, engineer, extraordinaire, we're gonna get that ordinance story, but in your honest opinion as a knowledgeable music person, how, what do you think of the song Echo Beach? Like sonically, musically, I'm curious for your honest review of Echo Beach by Martha and the Muffins. I mean I'm obsessed with that, I'm obsessed with Martha and the Muffins, I was
Starting point is 00:16:44 before I even got to play with them. So, I mean, it's such a unique sound. I think they're kind of the epitome of the West Queen West sound, like that new wave sound that was emerging in Toronto at that time. And to me, it's just one of those iconic kind of songs that I think is really indicative of that time here
Starting point is 00:17:04 in the music scene in Toronto I'm glad to hear you. I mean your little bias because you played with these I'm here to tell you you're correct I also think they're brilliant. Yeah, what it's like what to me echo Beach What a definitive Toronto song that yes, like if I'm gonna come up with the 10 Toronto songs That's one of them fun exercise for us one day hill the 10 Toronto songs I would love that echo Beach 100% slam dunk in that list of 10 Toronto songs. And I think like what a huge part of the sound, the muffin sound, I think was Mark Gaines guitar playing.
Starting point is 00:17:34 It's just so unique. He is such an interesting guitar player. Yeah, you know, they renamed themselves Eminem because Mark told me in this basement, he said, I was tired of being a muffin. I was I actually got them to call me mini muffin when I joined them. You're an honorary muffin. Honestly you shouldn't feel that's enough forget that you know okay so can you give me a little background on your origin story here and then I do have some songs and stuff but you're like I
Starting point is 00:18:02 don't know how to even describe you you're a producer you're a songwriter you're a composer you're a mixer you're a songwriter you're a composer you're a mixer you're a recording engineer you're a multi instrumentalist you're an artist you're you're a director mmm like how did he'll become this unicorn I started like many start with my first band I think I was around 12 years old and I was in homeroom and I just had this idea to start a band and so I just started asking everyone in Homeroom who wanted to join a band and that's how it started. And then I immediately started emailing all of my favorite artists at the time.
Starting point is 00:18:37 Who were these artists? I need that list. I did email, I emailed like Huxley Workman. I emailed, yeah he's amazing. I always loved him. Um, I emailed The one I I emailed a bunch of people actually I emailed like Jane Weidlin from the go-go's cuz she was like That was why I started my band was because of the go-go's it was an all-girl band and then yeah, and then I got a response back from Andrew Franey from a band called smoothermoother, which used to be signed to EMI and Sonic Onion. And he called into our rehearsal one day and was like, yeah, I want to record your first demo. And I think at this point we're 13. And he came to my parents' basement with a big PC and some mics and recorded us in my parents' basement
Starting point is 00:19:24 and made our first demo. And that was kind of the catalyst moment for me because it not only kind of unlocked the potential of a music career by having an actual demo, but I saw that I could record myself essentially. Right. wave of bedroom production almost, you know, and so yeah, I, that's kind of what opened up the recording mug for me. And I quickly downloaded the open source software that we're using to record that demo and never looked back. You're like Beck, you know, his bedroom and make loser or mellow gold. I wish that's what my first record sounded like, but it wasn't, I can't believe you're 13. So what was the name of the band? We were called the sirens, but not like the police sirens, like the Greek mythological
Starting point is 00:20:08 creatures that lured sailors into their deaths. Well, that sounds appropriate. We'll dig into that. Okay. So you're so, that's so young. Like I'm thinking, what are you, Taylor Swift over here? So you're recording these. I wouldn't jump I wouldn't jump to that conclusion, okay? Twitch is on, but they're on. But so you're 13 years old. And then like walk me through what's next because spoiler alert, at some point you're gonna win a Juno Award.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Like for recording engineer of the year. And you're up for a Juno this year. Yeah. Junos are coming up, right? Yeah, they're this week. I leave in a couple of days, yeah. Are they in Hamilton? No, they're going to be in Hamilton next year
Starting point is 00:20:45 Oh next year to Hamilton. Yeah So when do you fly out? Friday? Okay, you made time for me. Yeah, it's amazing. Thanks for having me. Yeah, you kidding me. You kidding me. Yeah, hi to me Hello here. Okay, so Walk just walk me through it. This will be fun exercise for you to kind of the ongoing history You're still very young but you you've already had accomplished so much. Like, so you're 13, you do the demo. What happens next? The next big step was I start playing the clubs in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:21:13 My band had since kind of broken up and turned into a bit of a solo project after that. But yeah, I started playing. I think my first gig ever was at Holy Joe's part of the big bop. And then, yeah, subsequently started playing Rivoli, Elmo, like all those gigs. And then eventually I started to make friends with a bunch of the people in the Toronto scene and then they started asking me to either write songs with them or tour with them. And so I kind of became a musician for hire, which was completely unexpected, but a super fun thing for me to do.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Anyone there you want to shout out? As you know, I like the name drop. Um, there, there were a few, I mean, my first gig ever was with an artist uh, named Jean O'Brien and I played bass with her. Um, and then I, I've played with, um, Sates or Saita Bubba Tlaib. I played, I played in her last band Sayed Ababa Tuleeb. I played in her last band before she started the Say Project. Yeah, I can't honestly, it's been so many years. Too many to name.
Starting point is 00:22:17 There was Tara Sloan around that time. I was super young when I started playing with Tara. Yeah, and so I- And much like yourself, Tara, because I hope she's listening right now, I find playing with Tara. Yeah, and so much like yourself, Tara, because I hope she's listening right now. I find her career interesting because a lot of not a lot of people, but I mean, not me, for example, but, you know, she could have been musician, Tara Sloan, great musician, right? You know, you mentioned Joy Drop earlier, you know, big, big 90s, all rock band, but she has like different facets to this career. Like, for example, she's been a television star and she is a sports media star now, you
Starting point is 00:22:50 know, covering San Jose, Sharks, etc. So I just find it interesting when an artist like yourself, like how do you describe Hill? You know, is she's a singer? No, she's an engineer? Like that's not fair to you to call you an engineer. We're going to talk at some point here, we're going to talk about music videos you've directed for some big time artists, some of whom have been in this very basement. That's how big they are. But I mean, like, so shout out to Tara Sloan is what I'm saying there. But so
Starting point is 00:23:19 you're playing the Rivoli, you're playing the Elmo, you're making these stops along the way, you're bumping into people like Andrea, maybe? Yeah, I definitely ran into Andrea. I mean the scene's really small here in Toronto. That's the beauty of it It's even regardless of what genre of music you're playing like we're all kind of stacked on the same bills So we all got to know each other yeah, and and around this time I started to record my own music because I Felt like nobody understood what I wanted to sound like. So...
Starting point is 00:23:48 Well, what did you want to sound like? It's interesting because I felt like whenever someone would record me, they tried to make me sound like a singer-songwriter, but I was writing all these really quirky, weird alternative tunes. When you say that, are they trying to make you like Sarah McLachlan? Kind of, like, yeah. just which like I absolutely love Sarah. I love singer songwriters, but it just it's not the type of music that I would necessarily write.
Starting point is 00:24:15 So yeah, so I just kind of started to explore what what production would sound like for me because I don't think that there was anything out there that sounded like what I kind of imagined in my mind. And then it became a trial and error process because I didn't think that there was anything out there that sounded like what I kind of imagined in my mind. And then it became a trial and error process because I didn't go to school for production or engineering. Right. It was literally me in my basement and I just will her and eventually my bedroom and I would just kind of start to experiment with the technology and then the more that I started working in other studios I saw that they were using programs like Pro Tools.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So I went to Long McQuay, bought my first Pro Tools rig, used. Love it, you got your hands dirty. Yeah, and then it was just, I mean, everything sounded like absolute ass at first. And eventually things started to sound good enough that friends started to ask me to record music for them. And that's how I became a producer.
Starting point is 00:24:59 And next thing you know it, you're a professional. Yeah, so I feel like everything that I've done, it's kind of been by accident. Like I was just asked to do something and then I was like sure let's try this. Very cool. Here's a little flashback for you. So listen to this. And the June award goes to Hill Corcutis. Thank you. Thank you to Caris. Thank you to Saint and Tanya Joy for trusting me with your hearts and your art.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Thank you to my team, Joe D'Ambrosio, Jordi Fernie-Yau, Jordan Howard, CCS, and Day Tripper. My family has been the most supportive ever. Thank you for allowing me to follow my dreams. My partner Abby, mom, dad, Cerise Dimitri. and I dedicate this award to my late friend Tim Thorny who is my mentor and champion. Thank you. So Hill, where about, where was the Junos that year? Toronto. How convenient. Okay. When you hear that back, like what thoughts are crossing your mind when you hear that? Definitely surreal.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It felt like a very emotional night. It was very unexpected. Yeah. And I don't know. It brings me joy. It was a beautiful night. What was the award for exactly? It was for recording engineer of the year.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That sounds like a big one. Okay. So that's 2022. Did you know you were the first woman to win that award? I found out actually when the nominations came out that a woman had never even been nominated in that category. So that's when I found out that I was the first.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Yeah, cause I had no idea. Honestly, I thought for sure at some point there would have been at least one cause there are plenty, well not plenty but there are a bunch of us out there. Tilda Hagan I mean, there are some industries that are male dominated. But to this extent where you're the first woman ever nominated for recording engineer of the year, and this is 2022, like we're not going to, you know, Erika Leibbrandt It's not the 70s.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Tilda Hagan I wasn't sure like maybe we're still in 2022. I'm like, that's like, no, this is 2022. Like this is happening now. But why do you think it is that the engineering, the tech side as Andrea shouted out, why is it so dominated by, by men? I mean, this is one of those tough questions. I think maybe just culturally or historically, women haven't necessarily been involved in technical professions. I use this example a lot, but my mother, when she was going to school in the late 70s, she was in architecture and she was like one of three women in that program. And you know, over time, that statistic has changed drastically.
Starting point is 00:28:02 But yeah, I think this has been the case too for technical fields. And I don't know if it's because, you know, at the time when the sound medium was kind of emerging and the technology was emerging, it just wasn't a place that a woman would generally be found. But, you know, that's things are changing now, though. That's because back in the day when you pulled the string on the Barbie, it would say things like math is hard. back in the day when you pulled the string on the Barbie, it would say things like, math is hard. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:27 Yeah. Like for sure, I think society would have straight made us focus more on other things. Although I may be confusing Barbie with Malibu Stacey. Yeah, I don't know. I wouldn't know because I didn't really play with Barbies, but I was just like playing with guitars and stuff. And that's how you become the first woman to win the Juno for recording engineer of the year.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I will say now Barbie, there's scientists Barbies, there's a bunch of different Barbies there. Now when you pull the string on a Barbie it says I love math. It does. Okay, thank goodness. Shadow to stem. Okay, please tell me where this Juno Award resides today. Like is it on display? It's a little cliche. It's on my mantle. Yeah, no, but okay, good. I'm always worried
Starting point is 00:29:06 it's in a box in a closet, but you have it on display and are you going to win another one next week? I have no idea. Um, there's never any, and I mean this truly, like there's never any expectation. I think with these things, I, it's always a shock to even be nominated cause I, like you, I'm in a basement most of my life. We have a lot in common. We both taught, we taught ourselves. Yeah. a basement most of my life. We have a lot in common. We both taught ourselves. We watched what's going on. We figured it out. We got our hands dirty and we both, you said it was ass at first. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Well, I'm trying to get out of that. I'm still ass after a 1650-something episode. That's massive. This might be the first good one, as I hear it in the headphones here. So what are you up for this year? I'm up for recording engineer that you're again. Yeah, okay on that note Now, you know we talked about male-dominated Jack Richardson. Okay, this is it. This is a big name Jack Richardson in 2024 here. I feel like this is your life hill. So in 2024 You were nominated for the Jack Richardson Producer of the Year Award.
Starting point is 00:30:06 This is a prestigious nomination. Yep. But you didn't win that one. No, I didn't. Who won that one? Sean Everett. He's like the best to lose to. So we're good.
Starting point is 00:30:16 We're good with Sean. I haven't met Sean. Yeah. I don't know if I can say. Sean's incredible. He's actually one of my favorite producers and engineers right now. So yeah, it was an honor to lose to him. Good. I was about to say fuck Sean,
Starting point is 00:30:25 and then I hear how good he is. I don't, I take that back. Sean, come on, Sean and Mike, we'll talk about it. Okay, all right, so I want to play a little music and touch on some other parts of your career, but I have two important questions for you. Okay. One is, do you drink beer?
Starting point is 00:30:44 I don't much anymore because I unfortunately am gluten free, which sucks. I feel like Andrea gave me the same answer. Yeah, I don't like being gluten free. It's yeah, just a chronic illness. No, not fun. Not your fault. I won't hold that. So but I love it. I do really love craft beer, actually.
Starting point is 00:31:00 What about the cool looking young woman who drove you here in the orange toque in the shades, who looks to me like a rock star? Does she drink beer? Gluten-free as well. Okay, okay. Do you have any friends in your life who do I have fresh craft beer brewed right here in southern? I do. I would love to share it with them if that's for me. Okay. I think Andrea. Yeah well Andrea, I think Andrea who is the same has an issue of gluten as well. She was sharing hers with unhoused people. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:29 So you can, you can give it to Andrea or give it to unhoused people as well. But it's delicious. And I'm here to tell the listenership that if you drink beer, the delicious beer that I enjoy comes from Great Lakes Brewery. And I'm here to tell you the Sunnyside Session IPA is now available. That's my summer beer. So that's what I drink all summer long. Love it so much. I'm glad it's here and it's only here for the summer So get your Sunnyside Session IPA now your gluten issue will mean you can never eat lasagna. I have found a
Starting point is 00:31:58 Way here. There's a loophole. There's gluten-free lasagna noodles now This is again. This is probably these are the worst. And I was just about to congratulate myself on the first good episode of Toronto Mike. And these ad mentions couldn't go worse because all I have is my freezer. Because there's inflammation issues. It's terrible. No, but I, you know, it's a bummer because I really do love craft beer. And I was really lucky to actually, I lived in Berry for two years during the pandemic. And I was down the street from the Flying Monkeys Brewery and they have some
Starting point is 00:32:27 beautiful IPAs. I love IPAs. Okay, so this this lasagna in my freezer that Palma Pasta sent over for you, you can't eat that. No, you can't eat that. Okay, that sucks. But here, I love lasagna. So you're dangling carrots. You did mention I don't know if it's before the recording, but you mentioned you have a long torso. Yeah. It's a time to measure my torso. So I have a measuring tape from Ridley Funeral Home. They're pillars of this community. They're at 14th and Lakeshore. Brad Jones from Ridley Funeral Home has a great podcast called
Starting point is 00:32:57 Life's Undertaking. And everybody listening should subscribe to Life's Undertaking from Brad Jones at Ridley Funeral Home. Measure your torso for me and get, let me know what that we're talking about here. Okay. What are we? How many centimeters come on? Okay. Wait, is that the top of my head? Yeah. I always round and people yell at me. It looks like a 30, this is inches, right? 34 inches. Okay. Is that a tall torso? Yeah, that's a, that's a very large, I have any frame of reference for this. You have one hell of a torso. That's right. You've been told have to pretend I have any frame of reference for this. You have one hell of a torso. That's right. You've been told that before?
Starting point is 00:33:27 I have actually, yeah. Okay, you should be very proud. You should be very proud of that torso. Thank you. As an engineer, as a tech person, I'm sure you have old cables, like old electronics that are not used anymore, but maybe they're in a drawer or a closet or a room. I do, yeah. I hoard everything.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Okay, so here's my good piece of advice for you. Okay. Don't throw that in the garbage, Hill, because those chemicals end up in our landfill. But if you go to recyclemyelectronics.ca and you put in your postal code, you can say, oh, I can drop it off at the Staples down the street or whatever. And it gets properly recycled. So everybody listening who has, you know, hoarding of the old tech that they'll never use again go to recycle my electronics dot CA Wow you didn't I have I didn't know this that's
Starting point is 00:34:13 amazing advice okay about to get to a jam here but I am gonna shed a one more podcast which is called building Toronto skyline and it's hosted by Nick I Ene's from Fusion Corp and Nick Ienis stepped up to help fuel the real talk so I can have very interesting conversations with multi-talented award-winning talents like Hill Corcutus and I want to thank Nick for his for sponsoring and urge people to subscribe to Building Toronto's Skyline. What will I play here? I'm just randomly going I play the game I know the rules, are not the same I've rearranged May not have won
Starting point is 00:35:28 But things have changed A girl's gotta do, gotta do what a girl's gotta do When the shade runs fine A girl's gotta do, gotta do what a girl's gotta do Hill, who is this? This is Jill Barber. Jill Barber and this is the Hill Corkutis remix. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:01 So tell me a little bit, this is a good gateway for you to share with us all a little bit about, you know, your contribution to so many albums out there, so many singles, like if you, you know, I'm searching on YouTube and there's so many remixes by you and everything. So maybe chat a little bit about, you know, you mentioned SAIT earlier, but some of these artists you work with and, you know, this, this Jill Barber jam is great. Yeah, this came about, Jill and I were hanging out when she was in town and we just talked about finding a way to collaborate together. And she was, um, she had just released this album with the single,
Starting point is 00:36:34 Girl's Got a Do. And I absolutely loved the song. And so, yeah, she was like, would you like to remix it? And that's how that came about. Um, and then a lot of the other projects like working with Sate for example. Sate and I have been friends for a really long time. I think I met her around the time I was 16, part of the same crew with Andrew Aramelo and Tara Sloan and everybody. And we first just started
Starting point is 00:37:02 hanging out and then eventually started playing in each other's bands I played in her site above a Talibah project and then she played in my alien surf rock project Hill in the Sky Heroes and then Alien surf rock. Yeah. Yeah, there were like singing saws and theremin's and stuff involved in that in that project Rob Pruse if you're listening right now, you know, you, I think that's right up Rob Pruess's alley right there. Yeah, and then there's a bit of surf, obviously, element in that, because I love Dick Dale, and I love that sound.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Most shadowy men on a shadowy planet. It's got that surf rock thing going on. I love it too, yeah, Dick, I mean, shout out to Pulp Fiction. I got the Pulp Fiction poster around the corner. Yeah, it's classics. So yeah, and then eventually- Rumble. Rumble, Link Ray the corner. Yeah, it's a classics. So yeah, and then eventually... Rumble. Rumble. Link Ray. Yeah, Link Ray. Yeah, I love Link Ray. He's the father of punk and the father of distortion. He invented the distorted guitar sound. Amazing. Yeah, so cool. I love Link
Starting point is 00:38:00 Ray. Yeah, and anyway, eventually we just, she asked me to produce her album and that's how it came about. And that's how we did The Fool together, which is an album that I'm really proud of. And you worked with Digging Roots? Yes, yeah. Two very dear friends of mine as well, Shoshona and Raven.
Starting point is 00:38:17 And yeah, we got to work on an album together called Joanum, which was a really, I'm really proud of that album. I'm proud of all the albums I've gotten to work on an album together called Joanum, which was a really, I'm really proud of that album. I'm proud of all the albums I've, I've gotten to work on. I really only work with artists that I really love and I'm very blessed to have that choice, you know. Earlier I teased that you directed music videos. Can you tell me like, like how, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:43 you're engineering and helping to create this great music, but how does that translate into directing music videos? So when I graduated high school, I promised my parents that I would get a degree and I ended up going to Ryerson, which is now known as Toronto Metropolitan University. And I went there for film school. So around my second year in film school, Tara Sloan actually had reached out and wanted me to direct a music video for her. And so I ended up directing my first music video
Starting point is 00:39:16 while I was in film school, you know, kind of student project vibes. And then a few months later, my dear friend Serena Ryder, who's my best friend, uh, reached reached out and was like, Hey, would you like to write a treatment for my next single to direct a music video? And I was like, what? I don't know what I'm doing. I'm still in school, but I did it anyway. Cause I was terrified of missing out on the opportunity to
Starting point is 00:39:43 yeah. I that's my whole life is FOMO. That's what motivates me and fear of failure. It's good because you're like you have an opportunity and if you pass on it then later down the road you'll be like you'll have that regret. Right. Like for sure. You know why I'm terrified of feeling that way. So well that's how I felt when I got the email from CNN. OK. That's like I don't want to do this.
Starting point is 00:40:02 I don't want to wake up tomorrow and do this. And I said you're going to regret not doing this. Okay. Serena rider. Uh, I need to know, I actually assigned a task to Andrea Romolo about, uh, she's going to ask Andy Petrillo to come on Toronto might. Cause I want to talk to her high school friend and Andy Petrillo. And I'm wondering, would Serena Ryder pay a visit to the basement? I cannot speak for her, but I can definitely throw it out there.
Starting point is 00:40:30 All you can do is put in the suggestion and hopefully Serena Ryder doesn't have a gluten issue and enjoy the craft beer. Gotta get her on. She's great. But another woman who has visited the basement that I loved my chat with her, Sass Jordan. Yes, I love Sass. She's another very dear friend. Wow. You're well connected. So you directed a video for Sass. I did. And that came about. So I actually met Sass in my third year of film school. I was doing one of my projects for that year was a documentary on women in rock and roll and I had a friend of a mutual friend with SAS and I asked her if she could reach out to SAS and kind of send my pitch to her and SAS responded and
Starting point is 00:41:17 was like yeah meet me at this event and you can interview me for half an hour so we ended up just sitting down and talking and I think we talked about women in rock and roll for the first seven minutes And then the rest of the time we started talking about quantum physics and all this insane stuff and we really get friends after that Yeah, we just instantly hit it off and then eventually she asked me to direct a music video for us well she's she's wild and entertaining and Interesting and I got a lot of time for SAS Jordan without a doubt. So who are these?
Starting point is 00:41:43 I'm trying to think icons. There's so many great ones, but like it's beyond, I mean, she, Janice Joplin, obviously, but a woman in rock, uh, uh, Chrissy Hind, uh, that the pretenders, I still love the pretenders, but, uh, this is, I'm just wondering who else, a Patty Smith. Yeah. I mean, I did it for that interview. I actually interviewed Tara, the whole purpose of the documentary, if I remember correctly, was I was wondering why, after a certain age, women were expected to kind of switch into switch genres, right? Because it was, I knew all these badass rocker women,
Starting point is 00:42:17 and it didn't make any sense to me. And so it was kind of an exploration of kind of the industry and societal expectations of women. And, you know, as we exploration of, of kind of the industry and societal expectations of women. And, you know, as we age, why is it that we have to almost soften? Interesting observation I never considered because we don't expect the same of like Mick Jagger or Well, this is it. There's a double standard. I got to open my eyes, you know, yeah. Wow. You're absolutely right. There's this expectation
Starting point is 00:42:43 of like, you can't rock anymore. You've hit the which is because you see someone like SAS and she's still rocking, you know, and she's incredible. And yeah, anyway, so the documentary was to kind of get rid of that. You know who else is still rocking Lee Aaron is still. Yeah, absolutely. There's a ton of women still rocking naked, still rocking naked. It's totally right. I want to make it sound like she's I love that, absolutely. There's a ton of women still rocking right now. Biff naked is still rocking. Although she's my age so I want to make it sound like she's... I love Biff too. She's incredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Oh, Biff lives in Mimico. Do you know that? I felt like I knew that, yes. And she walks her dog at a park near here. And it's always a pleasure when you see Biff walking the dog. You can chat her up. She's the best. Amazing. Yeah. I always run into her at Longham-A-Quaid. Yeah. And she also won't drink the craft beer. That's the best. Amazing. Yeah. I always run into her at Longham McQuade. Yeah. She also won't drink the craft beer that's so delicious. Right. It's a little straight edge over there, but that's okay. That's okay. No judgments here. Straight edge if you wish. But one more name, Mother Mother. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:36 So that came about. So while I was in film school, I started working part-time at a music video production company to make some money while I was a student. And obviously, I was an executive assistant. And then when all these opportunities started coming in to be a director for music videos, my executive producer was like, well, we're going to produce your videos for you. So then they ended up signing me onto their roster and I started pitching to artists To direct music videos and mother mother was one of those artists I pitched to for a song called Hey loft and yeah, we made a really fun video together Okay, so these are music videos that you're directing Alex Cuba. Yes. I did a fun video with Alex as well Just name-checking all these greats
Starting point is 00:44:22 Okay, but now that I've got you talking about your work for the screen, if you will, I'm just going to play something else. It's true. I'm not sleeping out with you. Yeah, it's true. Cause everything is better with you. Everything is better with you. That's Remy and Boo. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Fame song. Okay. So Remy and Boo, Yes. Okay. Famous song. Okay. So Remy and Boo, I feel like I actually feel I miss Remy and Boo, but I hear nothing but good things. This is a children's television show if you couldn't, it's a CBC show. But how did you get involved writing and producing songs for children's television shows like Remy and Boo. So my friend Tim Thorny, who is a mentor and champion of mine, was involved in the children's
Starting point is 00:45:30 songwriting world and he kind of asked me one day, he's like, would you ever be interested in pitching to children's shows? And I was like, you know what, that sounds really fun. So I kind of, again, another throwing a random thing at me and saying yes. And so, yeah, I started pitching to children's shows. But the Remy and Boo one came up actually, someone approached me directly because that show is about two best friends and they asked if I could write a song with my best friend for the theme song. And that's when Serena and I got together and kind of wrote a song about best friends. It does sound a little like stomp like off the top right?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Yeah for sure. Little stompy there okay. Yeah so that's how that one came about but yeah like most things I feel like everything's been a happy accident that went FOMO. Hard cases of FOMO. And you're just getting in many regards you're just getting warmed up here you're just getting, in many regards, you're just getting warmed up here. You're just getting started. Maybe, yeah. I don't know, I always just don't know what tomorrow will bring.
Starting point is 00:46:31 So you kind of have to take life by the horns, so to speak. That's how I feel. Well, you take the bull by the horn. Okay, I don't know, life's got these horns. Life, my life has horns. Every artist has pre-Toronto Mic debut and post-Toronto Mike debut. Okay. So this is like the demarcation line and think you're going to blow up here.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I think you're already blowing up, but just going to shout out Dino Ranch. Yeah, that was a really, that's one of my favorite shows. That's another, I think it's CBC. Yeah, CBC and Disney. Yeah, CoPro. What a collaboration there. Okay. Thomas and Friends, all engines go. Yeah. Who doesn't love Thomas the Tank Engine? I grew up watching Thomas. That's why that was very exciting. And the new Thomas. Who was your conductor? Well,
Starting point is 00:47:14 there were a few because there was George Carlin and then Ringo. Yeah, there was Alec Baldwin in there too. Like all three of those guys did it. Ringo for sure. I think Alec might have been after because when I was watching Shining Time Station it was like pretty early days Right, so you're watching George Carlin and Ringo star for sure. That's you know, and while I think you're right I think the third in might be Alec Baldwin. Yeah, I didn't even know Alec Baldwin was Mr. Conductor. That's wild That's a fun fact. And Dee Dee Con was in that show too, who's super fun. Okay, very cool. Now that's a Netflix series.
Starting point is 00:47:49 So you're writing and producing songs for these children's shows. Last but not least, I'm wondering if we could talk about, sometimes you have to sell out, right? Like I feel like when I was growing up, there was nothing frowned upon more, nothing worse than selling out. Like maybe it was the Neil Young influence or whatever,
Starting point is 00:48:07 but I can tell you, this podcast, which was a labor of love for a very long time, I resisted taking a penny from the brewery because I didn't wanna sell out. Like I have this thing in me from the 90s. I don't know, it's like part of my DNA where it's like, oh, you can't sell out. But in 2025 selling out is totally radical. Right? Like it's okay to sell out is what I'm at. It's okay to sell out.
Starting point is 00:48:32 Hill. I don't, I don't really believe in selling. I think it's a total BS. I think it's a way for haters to just make excuses for hating on people that are doing well. And, um, and you got to like, everyone talked about Britney Spears being a seller and I'm like, Britney Spears is exactly who she is. How can she be selling out? She's an entertainer. She's doing exactly what she wants to be doing. That's not selling out.
Starting point is 00:48:52 And she's a pop star. Yeah. Like I just think it's a really silly argument. Like Patty Smith, if Patty's and I don't mean me, I, my feeling on this is that you need to be paid for your work so you can eat and live and have shelter and all these important things. Absolutely and this is I say this all the time because there's this really horrible notion that in order for you to be an artist you need to bleed for your art, you need to suffer. And I think that's really dangerous. I think it's we need to look at things more holistically because in every other industry, people are expected to be
Starting point is 00:49:28 respected for what they do. And yeah, so I think it's BS. Get paid for what you do. Okay. So you're getting paid for things you're doing. And it reminds me, I had Patrick Pentland from Sloan was here last week. Love him. And I love him too. And we were talking about one of his songs, one of his compositions for Sloan is on this Ice Tea commercial fuse. I think it is F-U-Z-E, but it's pretty high profile ad and they're using, I think it's a Money Cine Maniacs, but they're using that.
Starting point is 00:49:56 That song's like so iconic. Well, that's a Patrick song. Yeah, it is. Patrick, I mean, I love Underwhelmed because it's the first song I ever heard and that's a Chris Murphy song. But a lot of these big hits from Sloan are Patrick jams. He has some really big jams for sure. Well that and that whole record Navy Blues, I think has some really big jams.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Like even, well the other one though was a Chris song, but she says what she means was my other favorite song. No, that thing about that band is four people contributing. And Andrew Scott's in the calendar. So Andrew Scott's going to his try on my debut. You wrote Sinking Ships off that record, which was one of my favorite songs. I think the deal is they each get three songs
Starting point is 00:50:30 on an album or something. Is it conscious? Yeah, I think they have like, they're all equals and they each get three songs that they write. So they don't write collaboratively, like they don't all get in a room and write together, they just bring songs, which I find is just an interesting dynamic.
Starting point is 00:50:45 But so I brought that up because you're, uh, you've been featured in, like, for example, uh, I think I'll shout out some brands that should be sponsoring Toronto Mike, like Cadillac version mobile, Tim Hortons, these are big brands. Uh, and so you, you got gigs from these big brands. Yeah. The Cadillac commercial was actually a pitch. So I actually wrote for that commercial. Like they sent me the ad and I wrote to the picture.
Starting point is 00:51:10 And then yeah, the other songs were licenses and good for you. Yeah. If you don't know what her FIFA called you, FIFA knows what they're doing. That's not an accident. They know what they're doing. And just to shout out a few TV shows because it includes one. I hope Andy's listening. But like, okay, I know the guy who wrote the book that private eyes is based on. Oh, so
Starting point is 00:51:29 cool. It's Gare Joyce. So hello to Gare Joyce and private eyes is coming back. Do you know that? I heard this? Yeah. It's been announced. Really cool. They're going to be on the west coast. Yeah. LA. It's like a private eyes LA and that's a, and Jason Priestley has been on this very program. Yes. Well, isn't he,'s one of the creators I think or me. Well, he's like he's like one of the guys Yeah, so they the gear wrote the book and then they license it I guess chorus whoever license it and then now you have private. So I'm gonna shout out some shows station 19 private eyes Offspring which I thought was a fucking cool 90s, you know rock punk band, but I love them Yeah, but this is a show in Australia, actually Australian show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Which is wild. That's like, and they still play that song on that show like over there for sure. Bloodthirsty Kim's convenience, which is no longer active, but was a great Toronto show. Killjoys not to be confused with the killjoys. Shout out to the Killjoys, and the couple of members are FOTMs. Degrassi, this is for Andy. Degrassi, how big is Degrassi?
Starting point is 00:52:32 And Hometown Hockey, back to Tara Sloan, of course. But these are just shows that have included some, uh, Hale, Kukutis. Good for you. I don't know if you want to speak to any of that, but, uh, they're an interesting story in that? Maybe tell me the Degrassi story before... Actually I think the song that was on Degrassi was a co-write that I did with Martha and the Muffins called No Man's Land actually and yeah it was I can't remember what scene it was used in I think it was like people looking for revenge that song's about revenge.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Do you know back in the day there were two Martha's in Martha and the Martha? I did know this, yes. The keyboard player was also a Martha, right? Was that the one? I'm going to tap out. I'm not sure exactly. I could be wrong too. There was a love triangle.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I never met the other Martha. That's quite a story. You should do met the other Martha. Quite a story. You should do a documentary about it. Because I should. Maybe that'll be my new venture back into film. One thing that struck me, so Martha, I believe it's multiple sclerosis, but she has a neurological disorder.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Parkinson's. Parkinson's, thank you. Because I messed that up and that's terrible. But she used a walker to get down here, but I'm not sure she could even get down here today. Like I was really honored that I got a visit from Martha and they gave me that t-shirt, which I should have worn. I should wear it for the photo.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Maybe I'll run up and put it on. But really, I would say an underappreciated Toronto band that has delivered so many musical gems, not way beyond Echo Beach, but if you're looking at that's the anthem and it's amazing you got to work so closely with them. Yeah, I know all their albums are incredible. All right, on our way out, rank all the albums.
Starting point is 00:54:14 No, I'm just kidding. I can't imagine. I can't do that. Hill, what's next for you? Like now that you're gonna win another Juno next week, I'm calling it in Vancouver. What's next for you? I'm just, I spend pretty much all my days in the studio so I'm gonna go to Vancouver for the Junos and then I'm back working with a bunch of artists I'm
Starting point is 00:54:35 really excited about. I have some new music coming out with Ace and Abbey, an artist named Emmy Jean. I know I didn't ask you about Ace and Abbey. You worked with Ace and Abbey of course. What have you done in the you about Ace and Abbey. You worked with Ace and Abbey, of course. What have you done in the past with Ace and Abbey? I produced his debut album, Watten, which was about his grandfather who's a residential school survivor. Amazing. I'm just honored you came by for this chat.
Starting point is 00:54:57 Thanks for having me. Really appreciate it. And I'm sorry you can't enjoy any of the free beverage and food I'm giving you. It's okay. If you can solve the gluten problem, then I'll be back in. I'll be in the lab tonight. I'm going to work it out. Figure it out. Find me a pill. What I need to do is I need to talk to my dear friends at Great Lakes and ask them...
Starting point is 00:55:14 If you can make a gluten-free beer, I will drink that beer for sure. Well, I mean, I produced their podcast. It's called Between Two Fermenters and the gang from GLB. That's amazing. Literally, yeah. I know. It's an amazing name. I didn't name it, but we just dropped a new episode about Sunnyside yesterday morning. But I have them in the basement every week or so and I pepper them with questions. I had questions about- Put in a good word for me and the other gluten-free people. Hill, thanks for this. I really, really enjoyed this.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Me too. Thanks for this. I really, really enjoyed this. Me too. And that brings us to the end of our 1,659th show. Go to torontomic.com for all your Toronto Mike needs. Much love to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, RecycleMyElectronics.ca, Building Toronto Skyline, and Ridley Funeral Home. See you all Monday when Mike Richards returns to the program to make a major announcement! Major Announcement! Picking up piece by piece Used to find peace in leaving
Starting point is 00:56:54 Now won't let me sleep I've been living divided Late night suffering silence Two coins over my alley door My whole life I've been fighting Running from the fear and the violence Every day, every day Now I'm alone I'm so lost without you in my home
Starting point is 00:57:24 I've been running around in circles on my phone Why'd you leave me down here with the ghost? With the ghost Ooh ooh ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, Try to find peace and healing But it won't let me go I've been living divided Late night suffering silence Two coins over my eyelids, oh
Starting point is 00:58:23 My whole life I've been fighting Run from the fear and the violence Every day, every day I know I'll see you later I know you're safe and sound I gotta get this paper I wish you were around I'll turn you into prayer I know the earth I'm bound
Starting point is 00:58:47 My dear I'm disaffected My heart is rough Now I'm alone I'm so lost without you in my home I've been running around in circles on my floor Why'd you leave me down here with the ghost? With the ghost Why'd you leave me down here with no loose? I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home, I'll take you home,

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