Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Hip-Pop Jams: Toronto Mike'd #841

Episode Date: April 29, 2021

This 59th Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out hip-hop jams from 1980-2000 that cracked the top 20 of the Billboard Hot 100 with Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. But first, a tribute to Shock G with special guest... Bob Willette.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 Learn more at realestatelove.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me for this 59th Pandemic Friday is Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. Oh boy, so it begins. Stu, what country are you in right now? I am in Canada. Yo, it's back. I thought I sensed a disturbance in the forest. Welcome back, buddy.
Starting point is 00:02:57 Your dreams were my ticket out. Listen, good to see you. Cam, how are you doing, buddy? Yeah, same as it ever was. Is that a House of Pain reference? Right. Talking Heads. Talking Heads.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Okay, because the theme today, for those who don't know, it's Hip Hop. That's the name that Stu Stone gave this episode. But to be specific, it's Hip Hop. I mean, why did you give it such a horrible you made that sound like the way i pitched it to you was an exciting name hip-hop okay let me explain it and then we can get excited about it so uh it's hip-hop jams from 1980 to 2000 that reached the top 20 on the Billboard Hot 100? Hip-hop. Hip-pop. Hip-hop. You don't stop.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And there's a jam that qualifies, and I'm going to play it off the top, and then I'm going to introduce our special guest, and we're going to have a little chat about this. This is a song that would be totally appropriate today because it's a hip-hop jam that reached the top 20 on the Billboard Hot 100 between that you're used to. I look funny, but yo, I'm making money, see? So yo, world, I hope you're ready for me.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Now gather round, I'm the new fool in town. And my sound's laid down by the underground. Okay, that's the Humpty Dance. So let me welcome the fourth member of our Pandemic Friday this week. A big surprise to you guys. Welcome from Bob's basement, Bob Willett. Thank you, Mike. How are you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'm in awe. I'm in awe. I'm part of a pandemic Friday. It's amazing. Let me formally introduce you, Bob Willett. Stu Stone. Stu Stone, Bob Willett. The award-winning Stu Stone. Yes, it is a real pleasure, my friend. A real pleasure. Nice a real pleasure nice to meet
Starting point is 00:05:05 you too i want to talk uh wrestling with you someday well i'm an old mark i was at the uh i was at i was in montreal for the screw job we're in the in montreal i was i was he was the guy said ring that bell i did bob screwed brett that's true yeah i, he did. Yes, I'm a long-time old mark for wrestling. That's exciting, man. That's really, really awesome. Sadly, though, I don't want to gloss over this whole Humpty Dance thing for a second. No, bury the lead. But Shock G, of course, you're speaking of, he passed away, correct?
Starting point is 00:05:42 That's what you were alluding to? That is what Mike was alluding to. So Bob's here, and I want to hear your thoughts off the top, Stu. But Bob's here because Bob and I have a similar history. I even invited the VP of sales because all three of us have a similar history. We all danced the Humpty dance together. Yes. So let's do, we'll start with you and then Bob.
Starting point is 00:06:03 We were all at Wonderland for like a digital underground concert or something he he did once get busy in a burger king bathroom i think that must be what it is all right so here do you guys see this of course you can see it because you have eyes but i pulled this out of my personal mic i got boxes of shit in the closet here and uh this is the 12 inch so my quick quick story is uh and then we'll get to you stew i've decided to jump ahead of you i hope that's okay but my quick story is uh what was the name of that record shop at wellesley and young like where the djs would buy their 12 play the record play the record okay so i was in there in 1990 with my buddy ed and they were playing do what
Starting point is 00:06:42 you like like they were playing the long version of Do What You Like, and I literally fell in love with Do What You Like, and I left with this in my hand, so I picked this up that day. And then, of course, I had Sex Packets on cassette, so it was before I had transitioned to CDs. I got it on cassette. Anyway, I fucking loved Sex Packets and digital.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I loved the sound. I loved the whole like concept of like shock g having alter egos and sticking on his like glasses and his big nose and suddenly he's this goofy humpty hump who'd be here on this uh this jam right here but i just fucking love digital underground like they were saying something they were fun now i want to hear from you, Stu, and then you, Bob, but it really hit me hard to hear Shock G, aka Humpty Hump, had passed away. I think he was 57 years old. He's gone. Yeah, that is sad. Of course, you know, the Humpty Dance, that was like the song that sort of propelled them onto where they would have made today's episode because it was a huge, huge hit.
Starting point is 00:07:46 The production on that track still bangs to this day. It's like, doesn't sound dated at all. It just says, awesome as it was the first time you heard it, it would be a hit, I think, if it came out today and we never heard it before. But Shock G also, you know, Tupac was a part of Digital Underground and Shock G famously appeared on Tupac's I Get Around.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And that was for people that only knew the Humpty Dance. They were like, wait a minute, that's the Humpty. They didn't even realize because they weren't Digital Underground fans necessarily. And I think that opened up a whole new sort of lane for him. But I've seen them live before and people maybe don't realize, but he was actually a really talented musician. But I've seen them live before and people maybe don't realize, but he was actually a really talented musician. When you see the, you know, that's, I guess, all around the world, the same song. Yeah, and that's the song that introduces Tupac.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Right. And so he plays the organ on that. And when you see them live, he does it live and he's pretty good at it. Where did you see them? I had to have been in L.A. at some point, but they were around, you know. Yeah, yeah, playing. But they were, you know, really talented guys and sad, another loss. Smooth voice. When he rapped as Shaak Chi, he had a really smooth voice.
Starting point is 00:08:55 I think he was heavily inspired by Prince. Like how he, you know, how Prince would go in the studio and do all the parts himself and kind of bake it up. Like, I think that was a heavy influence on Shock G. Bingo, Bob. I guess I don't call you that anymore. It's just Bob Lillet. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Bob, share with us your thoughts on what Digital Underground meant for a young Bob. So, you know, so 1990, I was 14 years old and starting high school. I grew up in an Ontario housing project in the east end of Toronto behind Gerrard Square, which I think, by the way, forget your Cloverdale Mall. You should be doing a deep dive on Gerrard Square. Anytime, buddy.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Let's do it after this. Don't you think? We should totally do a deep dive on Gerrard Square. I mean, any place that had a food court with a restaurant called Poonies in it has got to have some stories. That's very insane. Poonies in it. It's got to have some stories. That's very insane. Poonies are good enough for me, man. You know, I just, same kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I imagine, my memory of it is, even though technically, the Humpty Dance is the second single off the album, right? Do What You Like First. Wait, wait, wait. Is it though? I feel like the first, I did hear Do What You Like first and I had that before I had Sex Packets,
Starting point is 00:10:08 but I feel like Humpty Dance might be the first single off that album. It wasn't, no. Because it was, my memory of it is that Do What You Like, well, I didn't know Do What You Like, but if you just look at, you can look at the release dates.
Starting point is 00:10:19 I'm pretty sure that it was, Do What You Like was released at least to radio in the States. I don't know about up here, but anything that I read, it was released to first and it was moderately successful, but not great. And then they released the Humpty Dance and it blew up. And I think for whatever reason, and now when I listen to these lyrics and I think about what were my parents thinking while I was listening to these. Grab them in the biscuits. Grab them in the is nothing listen to freaks of the industry I have all those lyrics still buried deep in my head and that's a great Diana Ross sample in that by the
Starting point is 00:10:54 way some of the samples but first of all like George Clinton and like they're the the funk they are like one of the funkiest you're right George Clinton and everybody and Bob not to derail you but you're a father so do you do what I do like forever if my one of my funkiest. You're right. George Clinton and everybody. And Bob, not to derail you, but you're a father. So do you do what I do? Like forever. If my, one of my kids is hungry, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:10 if you're hungry, get yourself some to eat. And if you're dirty, then go take a bath. And they've always been like wondering what the hell is dad doing with this? I think you're the only one. I'm sorry. I do that.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I will drink up all the Hennessy you got on your shelf. Yeah. I just just you know what they were so ahead of their time in certain ways I loved their second album Sons of the P as well which had Kiss You Back and Nose Job I have the 12 inch of Nose Job there and then I've just I've always been a big fan and
Starting point is 00:11:42 they were doing stuff again you know they bring Tupac in. Sons of the P, which is the follow-up, it has the last song on. It's called A Good Thing That We're Rapping. And it is one of the most hardcore songs that you're going to hear. You got to listen to it.
Starting point is 00:11:58 It's 11 minutes long. And it's like this long-ass story about them when they were pimps in the early 80s it's crazy good and i for whatever reason it just resonated with me i didn't really get into rock music until i was in later in high school i used to listen my favorite bands in 1990 would have been digital underground bell biv devoe and uh emc right in that order exactly exactly black sheep throw a little black sheep in there that's right yeah so you know i think just um i i think they were uh they were groundbreaking in their like the the way they melded funk and hip-hop and for whatever reason same thing as you
Starting point is 00:12:37 you heard it you loved it and i actually instantly i would put sex packets in probably my top 10 favorite albums that's why you're here bob That's why you're here, Bob. That's why you're here. And it's funny because the other day I spoke to Chris Wardman. And Chris, by the way, Stu Stone, Chris Wardman produced Fluke for Rusty. Oh, wow. I know. That's a great album.
Starting point is 00:12:57 So I'm going off on Fluke. To me, it's like, I don't know, it's like the White Album by the Beatles or some shit like that. And I'm thinking like there's these strange, like depending on timing and stuff, when you hit certain pieces of music and they mean something to you like forever and sex packets is right there like that for me. And I think it's like that for Bob. And I know it's like that for the VP of sales. I mean, I actually remember the first time that I ever experienced that Humpty
Starting point is 00:13:19 Hump. I was on a school trip to Washington and we were staying in like, it was like a seventh grade trip to Washington. And we went to Washington and we're in the hotel room. We had MTV in the hotel and they played the Humpty hump. And everybody was just like, what was that? And we all like, couldn't, I think like three kids bought the tape at the mall the next time we had an
Starting point is 00:13:42 outing and it just took off. But I do remember. I think Dan Kutuchar was never the same. Wasn't there a pee fight on that trip? I feel like I'm imagining. I remember you telling me about this trip to Washington. By the way, I need to clarify something. The store where I bought the 12-inch single for Do What You Like, it was called Star Sound. It's called Star... You actually stole it?
Starting point is 00:14:05 No, I paid for it. Star Sound. It's called Star Sound. Star Sound. Yeah, yeah. Star Seed. I find out what went wrong. Hey, FOTM taggered on drums. Okay. So, Bob, here's the deal, my brother
Starting point is 00:14:22 here. Actually, I wanted to play a little bit before we said goodbye to this part of the show. I did load up. Let me play a little bit of Do What You Like just because I even played a bit off the top here. I'll play in the background. Funky as all hell. Yeah, it's great. I mean, and if you watch the Oakland, San Francisco Bay Area episode of the hip hophop documentary that Shad has on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Evolution of Hip-Hop. Evolution of Hip-Hop. That is a must-see. If you want all the history of Digital Underground and how important they were, don't forget, also, the West Coast Rap All-Stars were all in the same gang.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Digital Underground had probably the best verse of anybody in that. And that's another eight minute epic. And they're in there with Eazy-E and with Young MC and MC Hammer. And I'm telling you, they're... I'm sure you'll be hearing a lot of those names again. Right. So this is a fantastic introduction to the topic. Because do you guys know at what number Humpty Dance peaked on the Billboard Hot 100?
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'm going to say number four. Any other guesses? I know it's outside the top 10 because we had to read the focus of this. Right. So the answer is number 11. And that's why we changed it from top 10 to top 20. Not really. Because look at who has the last laugh. Humpty Dance is still banging. I've been DJing my whole life.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I started DJing when I was 16. That's a 12.30am song. You drop that and going back to Belle Biv Devoe, you drop Poison or you drop Humpty Dance, the floor is full at any party you're at. For sure. I actually went to Canada's Wonderland
Starting point is 00:16:09 and recorded several. You know when you can make your own videos? I've never told this before. But I had this life hack. I would go to the karaoke booth and record me doing Belle Vivre De Vaux, then take that tape and make a video of me doing Belle Vivre De Vaux.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Wow. Yes. That's like when the bare naked ladies sang Yoko Ono at Speaker's Corner. Exactly the same thing. I'm going to find these tapes, Mike. Oh, I would love it. Oh, speaking of Speaker's Corner, Stu, did you listen to the David Kynes episode of Toronto? I did, yes.
Starting point is 00:16:44 What are your thoughts? It was great that you had him on. I mean, just a wealth of information. You said some nice things. You mispronounced the name of my company for the umpteenth time. What's the name of your company? You know what the name of it is. 5'7".
Starting point is 00:16:59 5'7 Productions. That's the name of it, according to you. What did he call it? No, that's what I called it. What is it called? 5'7 Productions. That's the name of it, according to you. What did he call it? No, that's what I called it. What is it called? 5'7 Films. Does it make a difference? He knows what I'm talking about. He didn't know. He thought you were talking about a different Stu Stone. A different 5'7 operation. No, it was really cool. It was cool to hear some of his stories.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Obviously, he has a rich history with a lot of the tv moments in music that we've seen in the last 20 years 30 years 40 years okay but do you i did my best sell job uh for the next two stone project i don't know if it's gonna get greenlit but i'll let you know if it doesn't let me know because then i'll intervene and i'll be like what the fuck you're an fotm we help each other out in this community yeah mike can I give you just before you get underway a couple of shout outs for your performance with Chris Wardman which I've already listened to one uh you're a real trooper for powering through all those AV issues that sounded remind me of like when Sammy Cohn and I used to do our podcast because I know
Starting point is 00:18:02 that his uh his internet connection out there on Vancouver Island is kind of choppy so you are a real champ. Did it work out okay because it's sort of like with Carol Pope where you start sweating because you got tech issues and then it starts to kind of iron itself out. It's a bit of a tricky listen but I mean
Starting point is 00:18:19 the stuff he brought I thought was, I mean if you're into all those albums which I assume most people who listen to your podcasts are there's there's all sorts of uh good stuff there and i do admire you for biting your tongue when you were talking about molly johnson and you didn't do the alta nova alta moda i almost like a chortle like you almost did get it out but you didn't want to cut them off i almost did yeah so you're right molly molly who part of the reason i was so crushed by my molly experience was because of the mad respect i had for her so it's like it's all coming from this place of like admiration and love and that's why i was so like hurt by the
Starting point is 00:18:55 whole thing because i'm i'm a big fan and i think that is a sneaky awesome toronto jam the breeding ground song love it it's great great great tune. And Molly's fucking amazing on that. She brings it, yeah. Well, that band used to be almost like a gothic band, I think. Like, they were kind of like quite dark at the start. So there was a real shift in their sound. It's almost like a rootsy thing. It sounded like big country or something.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Right, in the big country. So while Stu works on his AV, I'm going to crack open a Great Lakes beer. I'm actually going to join you today. I'm going to have a beer too. I got the octopus once a thing. Oh, nice. Okay. So let's do this together, Cam.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Okay. Here's my little microphone. Stu's got a cup. I feel like we're at a park, Cam. Cheers to you. Same thing. So we'll be arrested in a few minutes. Where are you, Bob?
Starting point is 00:19:44 Where am I? I'm on the Danforth. I'm in my basement. I'm on the Danforth. Oh, are you? Yeah. I'm going to bang on the floor. We'll have to meet up.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Everyone put their address into the chat window. I'm dead serious. Yeah, it's a private chat. I won't read it. I'm curious where everyone is. Because I do suspect you three It's a private chat. I won't read it. I do suspect you three are within a kilometer of each other. It would be illegal for me to see them. We're media.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I think we're exempt. I do have a media card. You might be actually quarantined, actually. I'm actually quarantined. You're fully vaccinated, but I understand you have to follow the 14-day. You could come play Digital Underground on a boombox and stand outside
Starting point is 00:20:30 the window. John Cusack. Bob, I would probably melt for that. Oh, I'll see what I can do. You know what? I actually have a karaoke machine right in front of me here that my kids use. I'll bring it. Yeah, like Bob and I are about five foot ten minutes from each other.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Wow. Maybe you could do like examining Garfunkel things. Okay, so a little housekeeping here. So Bob, please, unless you have to go for some like familial purpose, stick around and comment on these jams. My kids
Starting point is 00:21:01 don't have to eat. Isn't that what Mrs. Willette is around, right? She can take care of that. She's actually in conferences, but yes. No, no, it's fine. I've already taken care of it. Lord of the flies happening over at the White House. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:21:12 I have a 10 and a 6-year-old, or a turning 6-year-old. It's chaos right now. I'm operating a school during the day. It's crazy. I'm Mike Rose. I know the drill. I know the drill. So I'm going to just say hi to some people who are at live.torontomic.com
Starting point is 00:21:26 before Cam kicks out his first jam. Hello to Canada Kev who's talking about Star Sound. It became a Quiznos, he said, and now it's a dentist's office. I have a lot of memories
Starting point is 00:21:35 of Star Sound. FOTM, Nicholas Pickles worked there. So that's a little connection to Star Sound. Speaking of FOTMs, I want to give some love to a couple. Ted Wallachian
Starting point is 00:21:48 and Bubba O'Neill are two FOTMs who have been hit hard by COVID-19. Both have been hospitalized. So I just want to give some love to these two chaps and wish them a speedy recovery. Amen.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah, tough week in the FOM or FOTM. Tough week, especially because we, for a moment, there was a miscommunication. And for a moment, we thought Jim McKinney died. Yeah, I saw that. That was awkward. Because Gord Martineau posted something and it looked like it was in loving memory of.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Oh, Gord. I know. Gord is, of course, the star of Faking a Murderer. He is. By the way, those listening south of the border, Faking a Murderer will be coming out in the United States, I think, August 3rd.
Starting point is 00:22:38 So stay tuned for that. I'll drink to that. Okay, so I also want to say hi to Cambrio and Moose Grumpy. Of course, Mark Weisblot. Who else is here? Hold on, there's some more here. Al Grego is here. Shout out to Al.
Starting point is 00:22:53 He told us he's in Holland Landing. Double D is here and Quebec Irish Boy. They're a couple of buds from Quebec who love the program. So shout out to our French friends. Mike, are you going to get kiddio on the show? Yeah, you want me to? I think you should.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I mean, you're getting, you already did Splashin' Boots and you've got Bread and Pretzels and you've got Ham and Cheese. Luscious Broccoli or whoever that is. Sunshine and Broccoli. So Stu, okay, how about this? Before I kick out the first jam
Starting point is 00:23:22 from Cam Gordon, I can't wait to get to the jams. Can you tell the sunshine and broccoli? I think I butchered the story when I told it. How are we connected to sunshine and broccoli again? Well, I was working on a CBC kids show a few years ago, and the kids that I was working with did a couple shows with sunshine and broccoli, and they were tearing the house down.
Starting point is 00:23:44 And we made friends. And anyway, they listened to the show, your show, Toronto Mike. Oh, I got that right. They listened to the Stu Stone show. But they heard me say Sunshine and Broccoli to you. And they were like, hey, let's get that set up. And I was like, no problem. I think I was talking to Broccoli.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So that's who's hitting you up. Okay, so I get that set up. And I was like, no problem. I think I was talking to Broccoli. So that's who's hitting you up. Okay, so I actually talked to Sunshine. So I think Broccoli is the dude. Yes. Okay, so I was talking to Sunshine. Yes, Sunshine is a lovely woman. She's a lovely, and apparently she's a mother
Starting point is 00:24:20 and we're going to schedule this so she can strain her kids' nap. They had huge beef. There's like a kids' band whole beef going on. I need all this shit, so you got to make sure I have all this stuff. Are you kidding me? I got to make this interesting. No, I mean, I was getting stuff in my DM that would
Starting point is 00:24:35 talk about Shock G and Shock This G. What I saw, some of those accounts. It was disgusting behavior, actually. More on that soon. Oh, and shout out again. I mentioned Double D's here watching on the live, but he had some COVID. That might be Cam's funny joke.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Honestly, I clapped, and I don't ever clap for the jokes on this program here, but I feel like we should get into this and then we'll shout out some more people and partners as we progress, but anything to say, Mr. Gordon, before your first jam? Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.
Starting point is 00:25:07 What sweethearts at Ridley Funeral Home? Honestly, I would recommend just reaching out to Brad Jones at Ridley Funeral Home if you have any questions about the process and anything involved with saying goodbye to your loved ones. You could get on a three-way call with Brad and Barb at the same time. Could you call them both
Starting point is 00:25:23 at the same time? Yes. I have sad news about Barb. Barb's well and fine and well. I don't mean to scare everybody. But this is the last episode of the CDN Technologies partnership. I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:37 It's always a tough thing when you have these partners and a lot of them stick around for a long time, like Great Lakes and Palma Pasta and Sticker U have been here a long time. Man, so Barb. I know. And Mimico Mike, much love to Mimico Mike because he just renewed for another three months. He tried three months. He wants to do three more.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So, and Ridley Funeral Home, they're in for the whole year. But CDN Technologies, they're done at the end of April. And there's actually, and this is going to sound, I love CDN Technologies and I love Barb and they're welcome back anytime.
Starting point is 00:26:05 But there is a rare opportunity here. So hit me up, DM me or write me if you want some information. But May 1, there's an opening. There's a slot open. You could be a partner of the program. I can't believe what I'm hearing. Like, are you guys still at the table or? No, I had plenty of notice on this.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And, you know, behind here, I'll remove here. I'll move my 12 inch single for Do What You Like. But Barb's CDN technology sign is still proudly displayed. But it will be gone next episode. Wow. Like that, huh? Holy shit. Don't even let the paint dry.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Maybe if somebody outsources their IT to CDN Technologies in the next two days, maybe she'll come begging to come back. This is the real talk we came for. Holy shit. Truth is, she's coming to Bob's basement. Oh, yeah. Bob's eating my fucking lunch. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:27:03 I knew that was going to happen. That's why I, the CFNY stories. The, uh, the one shared guest we have, uh, is of course,
Starting point is 00:27:11 uh, Stacy mystician. So there's, if you want to hear, do we, I guess so. You're right. I meant recent,
Starting point is 00:27:16 like recent recently is. Yeah. Yeah. After this, after this, there's going to be another. Oh, I'm not poaching.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I'm not poaching. No, listen, I would be happy to hear Stu Stone on Bob's Basement. I'll go on when Barb renews. There you go. Much love to Barb Paluskiewicz. Hit her up if you're looking to outsource your IT. Okay, so Cam, I'm sorry. Did you have something to say?
Starting point is 00:27:41 You know what the problem with Barb's business model was? Tell me. She was giving away these books for free. You know, it's like, how can you make... It's free. No paywall. The book's like a lost leaper. No paywall.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Stu knows exactly what's happening. He's being funny. Stu, the books, the Elvira cats. It's all marketing. Yeah. You know, I fucking love this country of Canada knowing Stu Stone is in it. I know. I feel better.
Starting point is 00:28:08 I can't wait to be back in the backyard with you guys once this stay-at-home is done. Honestly, the first episode in the backyard is Wrestling Jams. Is Bob going to be there? I'll be there for sure. I have my vinyl copy of the wrestling album here and I also have
Starting point is 00:28:24 Classy Freddy Blassie's album here. That's like a country album, is it not? Like a spaghetti western. Well, there's a lot of wrestling country overlap, but we'll save that for the wrestling episode. And then Stu and I will be having a Hell in a Cell
Starting point is 00:28:39 match directly after. Available on Stu's OnlyFans. At an old Zellers location. Hell in the Zellers. Did you queue up your jam or did you have anything you wanted to say or you wanted to play? I want you to play this track, Mike.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I'm going to count down from three and then hit the music. Three, two, one. Jump! Don't try to compare us to another bad little fad I'm the Mac and I'm bad Give you something that you never had I make you bump, bump, wiggle and shake your rump Cause I be kicking up like what that makes you wanna jump How high, real high, cause I'm just a flop A young, lovable, huggable type of guy And everything is to the back with a little slack
Starting point is 00:29:37 Cause inside out is wiggity, wiggity, wiggity whack I come stomping with something pumping to keep you jumping R&B, rapping, bullcrap is what I'm dumping Ain't nothing sucked about crisscross, we all act So when the eggs do their rocks, they believe it What a start. Yeah, good start. I must say, like, I've had some picks recently that I think were pretty wiggy-wiggy-wiggy-whack. Jump by Chris Cross is definitely not one of them.
Starting point is 00:30:06 I fucking love this song of course this is Chris Mack Daddy Kelly and Chris Daddy Mack Smith at the young age of 12 and 13 we didn't hear them on Toys and Tots jams I was going to ask I'm going to check the record we might have kicked them out
Starting point is 00:30:22 this song before still always a pleasure. Yeah. Any excuse to play this is well worth it. You know, we talk about kind of top 20 hits. That was a criteria. This song did a lot better than that. This song went to number one in the US,
Starting point is 00:30:36 number one in Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand, Switzerland, number two in the UK. Massive track. And for frame of reference, House of Pain, songs about jumping. House of Pain, Jump Around, only went to number three. Wow. Pointer Sisters, Jump, only went to number three.
Starting point is 00:30:57 I should have... What about Van Halen? Van Halen. That might have gotten to number one. Monster Jam. Yeah. This was also written and produced by Jermaine Dupriu. I feel like perhaps earlier.
Starting point is 00:31:08 What about How to Jumper by Third Eye Blind? You know, top 20. Top 20. All sorts of tracks sampled in this. Everything from I Want You Back by the Jackson 5, Funky Worm by the Ohio Players, Impeach Your Presence, Honey Drippers. You got a little James Brown, Schoolie D.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And it says OPP by Naughty by Nature. I don't know if that's true or not. I don't even think that can be. Yeah, right. Oh, is that? Okay. That's the Jackson 5 sample. Yeah, that makes sense. I feel like we heard on the Toys and Tots.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Or what is it? You know what? I don't think. Definitely wasn't Toys and Tots. So, guys, I'm in the great spreadsheet, the official source of FOT. Oh, I see. That's FOT. It was definitely another bad creation, but Beef with Criss Cross Disgust.
Starting point is 00:31:59 I was going to say, Stu, do you know about the Beef? Of course. And you can hear in the lyrics of Jump. If you go and listen to the lyrics, it's literally, this is a diss record on another bad creation. Don't try to compare us to another bad little fat. That's a whole diss opening there. I literally had that line.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I literally had that written in a notepad. So they came out swinging. And just for the record, before I pass the mic back to Cam Gordon, I don't know if they'd win a fight with another bad creation, because there was like 12 of those guys. This is the – go ahead, Bob. Another bad creation. I had Boyz II Men and Belle Biv DeVoe in their corner.
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yeah, they had Boyz II Men, ABC, and BBD. Yeah, the East Coast family. ABC, BBD, the East Coast family. Crisscross between Crisscross and Jermaine Dupri. Not a lot of size there. Okay, for the record, I'm in the spreadsheet now. This is the first time in the history of Pandemic Friday we've kicked out a crisscross jam right now.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Okay. Well, I was going to say, if there was a throwdown, also, like, the crisscross guys have their clothes on backwards, so they'd probably be getting all, like, tangled up and, like, falling over each other. I did see Cam wear a Chicago White Sox starter pinstripe backwards at school a few times. Totally.
Starting point is 00:33:07 It was my Ron Karkovice jersey, I believe. Big Kark guy. I mean, there's all sorts of fun facts on Wikipedia. To give you a sense of how hip-hop used to be reviewed back then, here's a few lines from the people magazine um commentary on this um talk about crisscross their best trick is inserting catchy melodic refrains in the middle of their freestyling raps that should help them cross over the pop and check the speed in which they spin out their ragamuffin rhymes on jump and warm it up obviously
Starting point is 00:33:46 the tongue matures before the rest of the body it's like what the fuck are you talking about people was that written by mr burns i don't know it's it's it's really um anyway these guys are from atlanta um sadly we lost chris kelly he was uh sorry i was gonna say his daddy, he was sorry, I was going to say he was Daddy Mac. He was actually Mac Daddy. Died in 2013. They did an autopsy, a mix of heroin and cocaine in the system. That shit will kill you. Combo platter, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 He's buried in Westview Cemetery. Oh, you got a geography corner? Anybody else buried there? I did cross my mind. I'd already done the geography funeral home a company that has renewed they're good through 2021 love having them on board uh there you go anyway jump jump crisscross uh a real banger that is a real this is a real sub genre that is not appreciated enough some people roll some people. Some people may roll their eyes
Starting point is 00:34:46 at this type of rap music, this hip-hop music as we are coining it, but this is another song crisscross that Bob could put on and the dance floor would be going. It still holds up. It's huge. I check on YouTube
Starting point is 00:35:02 too. Still millions and millions and millions. People still dig this shit. It's a great song. Do you agree, Bob? You could stick this in the mix and everybody's on the dance floor, right? I have my pants on backwards right now. Did anyone here wear their clothes backwards? Of course.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You know what sort of reminded me? Did you guys ever do like when you're in kindergarten and you did painting and you'd have to bring in a dress shirt and wear it backwards like as a smock that's what sort of reminded me of that style great start what year was this one 93 94 what was that 92 and you said it reached number one number one on the billboard hot 100 and some of the songs that came and went for number two while it was at the number one on the billboard hot 100 and and some of the songs that came and went for number two while i was at the number one position because this is for like about i think 12 weeks included uh red hot chili peppers under the bridge yet on vogue my love in brackets you're never
Starting point is 00:35:57 gonna get it as well as the re-release of bohemian rhapsody i guess guess Wayne's World was out at the time. Amazing start. So typically, not typically, but lately, I've been going second and then Stu would take us home. We're going back to the classic order. So Stu's going to go second and then I'm going to...
Starting point is 00:36:20 At the end of the show, it'll all make sense. Stu, let's hear from you before I kick out your first answer. Yeah, things are going to be real interesting whenever it gets to the second slot. I've got a lot of information. I've got a lot of mind blows. And I've got some songs that are pretty damn cool. And I think this is another one that Bob could put on the dance floor at any bar mitzvah, quinceanera, wedding, nightclub, pub, or pool hall.
Starting point is 00:36:43 And people would be bobbing their heads. And we're Zooming right now. All I wanna do is I'ma zoom, zoom, zoom and I boom, boom All I wanna do is I'ma zoom, zoom, zoom and I boom, boom All I wanna do is I'ma zoom, zoom, zoom and I boom, boom Check, baby, check, baby, one, two, three, four Check, baby, check, baby, one, two, three Check, baby, check, baby, one, two Check, baby, check, baby, one, two, one It's called the Rump Shaker.
Starting point is 00:37:25 The beat is like sweetening candy. I'm feeling manly and your shaker's coming in handy. Sliding my claws from New York down by your Virginia. Tickling you around Delaware before I hit some. Talk to seduction from face hips to feet. I wiggle and I tickle to make the night go flake. Now since you got the body up in the air, come and get me. This is Rump Shaker by Rex and Effect.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Wow. Rex and Effect. Wow. Rex and Effect. This song went on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 all the way up to number two. Yeah. Number two. Big hit. For a rap song like this to get to number two, that's pretty good. There's a lot of
Starting point is 00:38:06 fun facts surrounding this song, guys. The most obvious one that people would probably know is that the actual lines of All I Wanna Do is zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, and a boom, boom was apparently written by a young Pharrell Williams,
Starting point is 00:38:21 the one who penned the chorus of this song. I had no idea. Got writing credit and got his launch as a teenager, got his launch in the music business from his contribution to the lyrics of Rex in Effect, Rump Shaker. I thought that was the obvious one.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Here's a mind blow for Bob and myself, who when we think of Rex in Effect, we think of Teddy Riley, probably, the favorite famous New Jack Swing producer who later went on to have huge success as a member of Blackstreet. Teddy Riley, of course, has the memorable verse in this song, but the mind blow is he is not a member of Rex and Effect. And I didn't know that until I looked up the research for this show.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Wow. I always assumed that he was one of the Rex or the Effects, and he's just a guy with a guest. He happened to be on their biggest song. He's the brother of one of them. But he wasn't actually in the group, which is shocking.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Do you know the song? Here's another fun fact. The song that kept Rex and FX Rump Shaker out of the number one slot. What year? This is in 1992. This is a big year for hip-hop. kept Rex and Effect Rump Shaker out of the number one slot. Yeah, let me guess. What year? Is it 1993? It's in 1992. So this is a big year for hip-hop because
Starting point is 00:39:29 if we're going to make this into its own yacht rock genre, I would say 92 is a pretty big year for this genre. I have a guess. House of Pains, Jump Around. No, because that didn't go to number one. Yeah. How about
Starting point is 00:39:44 the number one. Yeah. Okay, it was a guess. Don't shoot me. The number one song that kept it out of the number one spot. Runaway Train. That's a good guess. Whitney Houston's I Will Always Love You. Oh, for fuck's sake. Of course. For fuck's sake.
Starting point is 00:40:00 So they couldn't get past that one. Yeah. Of course, the song was sampled later on in Paper Plan paper planes by mia uh you got here's an interesting thing in teddy riley's verse you remember when he says like i like the way you yeah i like those so that's lines from a elder barge song and elder barge sues and gets paid and is now elder barge is now credited as a writer on the song. In fact, there are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 writers credited to All I Want to Do is Zoom, Zoom, Zoom, Zoom. It's almost as if these guys were so ahead of their time
Starting point is 00:40:37 because in today's hip-hop, there's about 25 writers on every song. Yeah. This is interesting, but the entire DeBarge family is credited here. I love DeBarge. I'm still remembered, I think. I like DeBarge, I think. Rhythm of the Night. Super cool. Chico DeBarge.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Okay, there's more fun facts here for you, Mike. Of course, the sample. The very famous sample let's go to the original mic and then let's talk about a couple songs that have also used this I mean, it's already pretty dope. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:41:37 Wow. What's this jam called? It is built on a sample from a song called Darkest Light by the Lafayette Afro Rock Band. So that's this. And of course, the people who put this song out in 72 could have never imagined they'd be getting rich 30, 40 years later off of a sample. Because not only did Rex, you know, there was a famous song called back to the hotel that you guys probably don't know, but, uh, but Jay Z sampled this. Is that Compton's most wanted? It could be back to the hotel. I feel okay.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Something like that. Okay. Uh, but anyway, very famous riff and very famous song Rex and effect rump shaker. Have you guys, I assume you've seen the website whosampled.com? Yes. Invaluable resource for breaking all this stuff down. Cambrio is insulting our intelligence. I just want to call him out because he's asking you, Stu, if you know Del the Funky Homo Sapien.
Starting point is 00:42:38 Now, I'm assuming he means personally, right? Like, he means have you hung out with Del? I haven't hung out with Del. I've been in the same room as Del, although didn't like acknowledge each other and that room is not like that room is the staple center or anything no no this was like like possibly at like that digital underground concert ironically i have been on the bill mike i feel like he was on the judgment night soundtrack with somebody was he not dell i don't think so with with rustyy? What I remember of Dell, of course, Dell, I think it's Ice Cube's cousin.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Is it Ice Cube's cousin or something like that? Also a computer brand, Justin Long. I remember it was Mr. Dabalina. Is that the jam? Mr. Dabalina, Mr. Bob Dabalina. Which was just everywhere for a while. Who's saying, was he pissing on my steps too?
Starting point is 00:43:23 Was that him? I think Stu was pissing on your steps. Well, you know. He goes in the back corner. Wait, what were you saying there, Bobby? Del the Funky Homo Sapien was featured on the Judgment Night soundtrack. Which song was his? Remind me. Dinosaur Jr.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Oh, fuck. Fun fact, Stu's the only person to kick out a Dinosaur Jr. jam during Pandemic Friday. In the grunge episode. That's right. Grunge band, Dinosaur Jr. That's right. Bob, do you think Dinosaur Jr. is a grunge band?
Starting point is 00:43:55 I think Feel the Pain by Dinosaur Jr. could be played during a grunge. Let's hear Bob. He's a radio professional. That means nothing. I think I would call that... What year did Feel the Pain come out? 1993? I guess it depends on
Starting point is 00:44:11 what your definition of grunge is. Does grunge have to come from Seattle? No. It's just unwashed hair and a certain sound. Stone Temple Pilots would be grunge, but that's not a Seattle band. No. If Stone Temple Pilots counts, that song... I that's not a Seattle band. No. So, yeah, I mean, if Stone Temple Pilots counts, that song.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I don't think all Dinosaur Junior counts, but I'll take that song. Okay, Bob, and not to sidetrack, huge debate about a year ago during the early days of pandemic, Friday's Soul Asylum. Oh! Somebody to shove. Somebody to shove. Is somebody to shove part of that early grunge? Yes, it was. Mike, if he, wrong answer, you need to...
Starting point is 00:44:47 I'm muting you guys. I need to hear Bob Lillet. Okay. I would say that it came to popularity at that time. That's not the same thing. That's grunge adjacent. So where does it fall in then? Is it Smash Grunge? I'm into the grunge genre. So where does it fall in then? Is it Smashing Pumpkins?
Starting point is 00:45:07 To the grunge genre, it falls in. Squarely, actually. Is Smashing Pumpkins grunge? Yes. At that time. Then that song by SoloSign can be grunge. Of course it is. Candlebox, you know, probably one of the greater.
Starting point is 00:45:19 If grunge is a sound from the early 90s and a band like, you know, REM released a bunch of great music from the early 90s, and a band like, you know, R.E.M. released a bunch of great music in the early 90s. And it would probably be on now. Now that's what I call Grunge 25. Yeah. I find it on there. Okay, one last question for Bob. Bob, is Serial Joe a boy band?
Starting point is 00:45:36 No. He's getting all the answers correct, by the way. They were just a bad Canadian band. Mike is fired. Bob is hired. They played one of our – they played the Humble and Fred Christmas Party in 98 at the Horseshoe Tavern. Weren't they like 10?
Starting point is 00:45:52 They played routines and talks, were they not? You know what's going to happen? By the end of this pandemic, Pandemic Friday will be like a subset of the Bob's Basement podcast. I'm sponsored by CDN Technologies. Mike Strickland voiced it onto him. Brought to you by CDN Technologies.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Okay, that's a great jam there, Wrecks in Effect. I love that song. It's a good start, but I'm now going to win this round. Thank you, Cambrio. Here's my first jam. Bust it. Bash. This here's a jam for all the fellas.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Try to do what those ladies tell us. Get shot down cause you're overzealous. Play hard to get females get jealous. jealous Okay smarty, go to a party Girls are scantily clad to show a body A chick walks by, you wish you could sex her But you're standing on the wall like he was Poindexter Next day's function, high class luncheon Food is served and you're stone cold munching
Starting point is 00:46:58 Music comes on, people start to dance But then you ate so much you nearly split your pants A girl starts walking, guys start gawking Sits down next to you and starts talking says she want to dance because he likes the groove so come on fat so and just bust a move young mc bust a move i think that was one of the first rap songs that kids in the suburbs knew every word to it. It was a pretty crossover record for hip-hop in general. No, you're absolutely right,
Starting point is 00:47:33 and that's why I wanted to lead off with it because this is from 1989, and it also kind of gets us to a Tone Loke theme that I think will recur throughout the evening. Tone Loke and how he's kind of involved in a lot of this hip-hop that we're going to play tonight. I have a Tone Loke fun that I think will recur throughout the evening. Tone Loke and how he's kind of involved in a lot of this hip-hop that we're going to play tonight. I have a Tone Loke fun pack coming up for sure. It's right in there.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Okay, so hold on to that one. It's going to be more appropriate later in the evening. But there's like, you know, because Young MC was collaborating with Tone Loke on songs such as Wild Thing and Funky Cold Medina and all that. But can you guys tell me who's playing the bass guitar in this jam? Les Claypool from Primus.
Starting point is 00:48:12 That's a great guess. Any other guesses out there? Geddy Lee from Rush. Bob's got it. Say it again, Bob. John Einwistle. Okay. So I'll tell you.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He's saying it's Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And he's in the video. Yeah, he's in the's Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers. And he's in the video. Yeah, he's in the video. So that's pants. That's pants ever. Yes, he's wearing the stuffy pants. First sighting of those pants for me anyway. Now, I'm not familiar with the woman who's providing the vocals on this jam,
Starting point is 00:48:39 but I do have her name here. Any of you guys want to? Barb Paluskiewicz. So it's Crystal Blake. Molly Johnson. It should be Molly. to... Barpluskwich. So it's Crystal Blake. Molly Johnson. It should be Molly. She'd be great on this jam. Crystal Waters? Crystal Blake is the voice we hear right now on this
Starting point is 00:48:54 Bust a Move. Who wants to guess... Gypsy Woman's Homeless. So, of course, this song kind of puts Young MC on the map. It actually won a Grammy for Best Rap Performance. Who wants to guess where it peaked on the Billboard Hot 100? Number five. Good guess.
Starting point is 00:49:10 What are your guesses, guys? I have it right in front of me, so I can't guess. Okay. Three. It peaked at number seven. Wow. Shocking. Dope song. It kind of reminds me of a a nice follow-up like if i
Starting point is 00:49:27 was to serve a meal and i played bismarck he just a friend i think this goes well as like the main course because it's like one of those clever kind of stories that you could wrap along easily with and sort of everybody can relate to it and uh young mc just uh you know this was a big song man this was a big song continues to be a big song and moose grumpy's right she uh chimes in to say that it's another dance floor filler so you play this right bob uh if you i don't know if you do any uh djing for weddings i used to yes i was i spent many a saturday night djing weddings strangers. And this song gets the old guys up. It gets the young guys up. It gets everybody up.
Starting point is 00:50:07 You mentioned. Sorry, Stu. Go ahead. Oh, go ahead. Go ahead. You mentioned the story. Stu mentioned. You mentioned the story of the song.
Starting point is 00:50:14 And I always had a problem with the lyrics. Your best friend Harry has a brother Larry. In five days from now, he's going to marry. He's hoping you can make it there if you can. Because in the ceremony, you'll be the best man. Why are you the best man? It your best friend harry's brother like why are you the best man it doesn't make sense wait let's unpack oh sorry your best friend harry has a brother larry say it slower say it slower okay your best friend harry wait isn't your best friend larry you're
Starting point is 00:50:40 no your best friend harry has a brother larry oh see. And in five days from now, he's going to marry. So Larry's going to marry. Yeah, so your best friend's brother is getting married and wants you to be the best man. Family friends. It's possible. It doesn't make sense to me. I'm an only child, but if I had a brother, my best man would be my brother is what I'm saying. But maybe Harry and Larry get along.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Yeah, something's going on there. There's another story is what I'm saying. My best man when I got married to Monica, my best man was my son James. That's beautiful. Very cute. Thank you. And he was all in a tuxedo and everything. He was very handsome. So, okay, now we're moving on
Starting point is 00:51:16 to Cam's second jam. Do you want a trivia? Perhaps for the first and last time, I have a movie trivia question. Okay, go and then answer that phone call okay is that lauren honickman is lauren honickman calling yeah what movie what silver screen film uh featured a cameo by young mc playing a lame corporate gig oh okay i've seen I remember this movie. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:51:46 That's what I'm thinking of. I think it was Young MC did this. Because I've actually seen some of these lame corporate gigs. Is it Up in the Air? Yeah, Up in the Air. Very good. I remember this, yes.
Starting point is 00:51:55 By who? Jason Reitman? Yes. No, it's not. Is it? It might be Jason Reitman. Yeah, with George Clooney. George Clooney and Anna Kendrick
Starting point is 00:52:03 is in this as well. Yeah, that sounds right. And I like it because i think they took out the the line like they edited out the line that made it all make sense like i think there's a line in the book where he's he's flying and he doesn't stop because he's got cancer like he's trying to kind of race against this you know disease he has but they don't actually drop that line i think it might be in the trailer but it's not in the movie. This is what I remember. They kind of changed it up on us. It might have been like the last movie we saw. Anyway. You guys save this for a Sunday Night
Starting point is 00:52:31 episode without me? Let's do a two and a half hour deep dive into up in the air. Cam's movie corner. It'll be awesome. We'll get Norm Wildery. Stu's never comfortable when the spotlight's on Cam, I noticed. I don't know. I'm happy with it. I just don't know. I don't think anybody anybody but stew this is the first time in 59 weeks or whatever that cam has shown an interest in movies i feel we should we just had the academy awards
Starting point is 00:52:54 he hasn't seen so many movies but up in the air he knows everything it's a big movie scene with young mc was in it yeah but it is a big movie. It's not an obscure arthouse film. It's not like a Carlton cinema. George fucking Clooney's in that movie. There you go. Yeah, George Clooney. Yeah, he's kind of a repertoire. Never heard of him. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Hit my music. What would you like to say? You want me to just play it? I forget what's next. So just... like to say you want me to just play it uh i forget what's next I'm surprised this is the MC Hammer jam you chose. Well, this is a bit of like a Scattergories thing. I figured we might hear some other stuff. Well, technically, Mike, it's not an MC Hammer track. Oh, it's just Hammer. Yeah, this was actually his first single where he dropped the MC and just went by Hammer.
Starting point is 00:54:13 Let's just get right into it. Too Legit to Quit, Hammer from October 1991. I'm going to talk a lot about the video for this song. Is it a baseball jam? I sort of forgot what a big deal this song was and and it really seemed like mc hammer thought this would be the album that would propel him to almost like michael jackson well he would challenge michael jackson to like dance offs on arsenio all the time yeah yeah yeah and this this seemed like this was gonna be like sort
Starting point is 00:54:43 of you know the ultimate um it was even referenced be like sort of, you know, the ultimate. It was even referenced in the video of this where James Brown was in it. He was sitting on a throne. There's like a 15-minute version of the video. All sorts of like tie-ins to sports, which we'll get to in a second. Let's go to the charts first. Number two in the U.S., number eight in Canada, number five in Japan for a hammer. Too legit to quit.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Is that number two on the Billboard Hot 100? That's right. Okay, just making sure it qualifies. Okay. Thank you. The video was directed by someone. I've never heard this name. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:55:21 It's very similar to another musician, Rupert Wainwright. Not to be confused with Rufus Wainwright. This was a guy who also did videos for the aforementioned Michael Jackson and also NWA. Later went into the feature film. His first film, I have not thought about this movie in about 25 years. Up in the Air? Good guess.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Crocodile Dundee. Blank check. With the kid from...auley Cultines. Oh, that's right. Brian Bonsle. I'm sorry. I think he's in jail now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:52 And you know who else acted in that movie? Phil Hartman. Tone Loke. Tone Loke. There's going to be a lot of Tone Loke tonight. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I recommend, you know, a bit of homework for all the FOTMs go watch the full 15 minute cut of this video it's so fucking ridiculous sort of the peak of like MTV excess like this was apparently one of the most expensive
Starting point is 00:56:16 music videos James Brown was in it there's like epic concert performances there's special effects there's almost like MC Hammer like dancing hologram type gimmicks ricky henderson's in this right well not just ricky henderson that like the there's this whole almost like science fiction thing where like he's praying to like james brown who's giving him like this advice i think to go take on michael jackson then the latter half is sort of an epic
Starting point is 00:56:42 concert scene that sort of half every like acdc video ever and half like madison square gardens but with all these cut-ins of like all the biggest athletes of the day not just ricky henderson i'm gonna quickly go through these you know he was the bat boy for the oakland a's that's that's his connection to yeah and his hammer comes from hank aaron right that's right yeah and do you know what two baseball players funded his first album? I'll just say it because I'm not sure many people would remember. So you had Mike Davis, who I mainly remember he was on the 88 Dodgers, like Oral Hershiser and-
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yes. And then Dwayne Murphy. Oh, Dwayne Murphy. Not Dale Murphy. Still in the game. Dwayne Murphy. Yeah. Anyway, some of the other athletes who are in the video doing cameos,
Starting point is 00:57:27 and I don't know if you remember, I think it's got like blur with my butt, too legit to quit. Right. Okay, here we go. Jose Canseco, Isaiah Thomas, not Junior. Jerry Rice, aforementioned Ricky Anderson. Deion Sanders, Andre Badmoon, Ryzen, Wayne Grotsky, who's Canadian, Chris Mullen, Roger
Starting point is 00:57:48 Clemens, the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders, David Robinson, and former Atlanta Falcons coach Jerry Glanville. There's also in the 15-minute version, they had a lot of actors in it. Jim Belushi's in there as like a news anchor, fucking Tony Danza, David Faustino, who I feel like he's
Starting point is 00:58:04 talking about. Isn't that the role Stu Stone tried out for? Yeah. One more athlete who's in this is Kirby Puckett, the late, great Kirby Puckett, who a complete aside, I have a friend, she's from Fort Francis, Ontario, up near Thunder Bay,
Starting point is 00:58:20 and I remember her telling me, what a big fucking deal Kirby Puckett and Kent Herbeck and the Minnesota Twins were in northern Ontario. Oh, because Minnesota is right, right, right. Yeah, which is kind of interesting. Final fun fact about this. Hammer had a rare distinction. I feel like this could be a new lane for me,
Starting point is 00:58:40 even though I've literally never seen the show. Both was the musical performer and host of saturday night live in december 1991 the host and the musical performers the week before was the aforementioned macaulay culkin with a musical guest tin machine oh that's david bowie was david bowie's band yeah um but yeah watching this video sort of reminded me like what a big fucking deal mc hammer was at that time wow and it's really just i mean i don't think anyone would think oh he'd be anywhere close to michael jackson but this time he was he certainly wanted to he's certainly trying and he got pretty close i would argue so the jam i thought we'd probably hear
Starting point is 00:59:19 tonight is of course uh you can't touch this i thought for sure we'd be hearing it uh because it's such a monster jam and it's perfect hip-hop kind of jam remember guys i've been long lobbying to have an like where we kick out the the lead single from the follow-up to your smash so you have your breakthrough smash which is please hammer don't hurt him now your next album's lead single that's what we just heard right now like this would be a perfect jam for that night since it's my turn now Mike I would like to officially like to apologize to the listeners
Starting point is 00:59:51 of Pandemic Friday's hip hop episode who have had a really good journey up until which has happened there with Cam but I'm here to correct that situation right now do we want to hear Bob's hammer reaction first? He'll be able to do it.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Trust me, he'll be able to still do it. But in the interest of time, let's just play my next jam, Mike. Let's do it. That's not correct. Okay. Pretend I didn't do that. You can't touch this. Oh, sure. You can't touch this. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:27 You can't touch this. You can't touch this. You can't touch this. My, my, my, my music. So hard. Makes me say, oh, my Lord. Thank you for blessing me. What am I to run?
Starting point is 01:00:44 And to hype me. It feels good when you know you're down. A super dope hard boy from the uptown. Equidistential Empty Hammer Jam Possibly, arguably, his best song. I mean, what would you say? You got to pray to make it today? That's not better than this. I love you, Seen Her. Have you seen her? Have you seen her?
Starting point is 01:01:15 It's a really great tune as well. Try Lights. What about Here Comes the Hammer? I had it on a rap track. Adam's Family Groove. Yeah, I would say that this is the song that really makes him arrive on the scene in general. Just a huge fucking hit. But we're going to we're going to blow some minds here. Then we'll get them all to Bob.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Oh, you're going to go for it? Go to Bob first. Maybe something about Too Legit to Quit. I do, actually. Go ahead. to go first okay because i have go to bob first maybe something about too legit to quit yeah i do actually you know go ahead because we're there's so much talk about how too legit to quit was hammer's attempt to become michael jackson right so and that video with everybody in it so that was released in september of 91 right in 90 in january of 92 michael jackson does dangerous and he really does remember the Time, the video. And he was like, it's a direct answer to it.
Starting point is 01:02:08 He's like, oh, you want to put all these people in it? The Remember the Time video has Iman in it. It has Eddie Murphy in it. It has, where is it? There's all kinds of, I've had all of these people in it. Who else was in it? Tony Danza. No, Eddie Murphy, Iman, Tiny Lister, Magic Johnson. Who else was in it? Tony Danza. Tony Danza. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:25 No, Eddie Murphy, Iman, Tiny Lister, Magic Johnson, a whole bunch of people. John Singleton directed it, for God's sake. They're in like Egypt or something. Yeah, it's got that whole. And they used what was at the time brand new technology that he used in the Black and White video and that was used in the Terminator 2 video. They used that. And of course, Ion was married to bowie tin machine so it all comes full circle the guy from tin machine anyways i don't want to step all over you there's two i just wanted to say michael jackson clearly was aware of the attempt by hammer because this video
Starting point is 01:03:02 he didn't tend to put stars in his videos before that. He had, you know, kind of unknown people in his, you know, and just dancers. Well, in black and white video, he had Slash, Macaulay Culkin, and Norm from Cheers. Yeah, George Wendt. Okay, you know what? And even the bad video.
Starting point is 01:03:16 You know what I'm thinking of? The bad video was directed by Martin Scorsese. And Wesley Snipes was in there, right? Yeah. But I do hear you. I think you make a valid point. Michael Jordan's in the slam. Is it called slam? That was after him.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I think the Bo Nose commercials were out at the same time also. Hammer was a hell of a talent obviously. He's not Michael Jackson. I'm sorry. He's a hell of a talent. He definitely went to places and achieved
Starting point is 01:03:48 successes that nobody before him had achieved and put a lot of people on his payroll to his detriment, which has been heavily covered over the years. Did you do something similar? Did you have an entourage that you were paying? I did. You can't touch this. There's some fun
Starting point is 01:04:04 facts to go here, guys. You know, the most obvious one is that you've got the sample, which we'll get to shortly, but Super Freak, Rick James. How does MC Hammer put this song out and not agree to pay, like not try to clear the sample? Wow. That's like the era. That's brutal. That's the era of hip hop that we're in at this point. And Hammer eventually got sued and agreed to credit James as a songwriter, effectively granting him millions of dollars in royalties. The song was first publicly performed on a 1989 episode of the Arsenio Hall show. Here's the real fun fact that's going to blow your minds, guys.
Starting point is 01:04:45 The song was not initially released as a single. So in order for people to get the song they had to buy the album right which as a result the album please hammer don't hurt him sold more than 18 million copies that's a lot of fucking money yeah this was kind of a famous little uh by the record company because, of course, you had to pay, like, I don't know, what are we, 15 to 20 bucks for the disc instead of whatever, five bucks for the single. How did he go broke? It's crazy, but it happens. Now, look at, what did it peak? What did it peak on the chart? You would think this is a number one.
Starting point is 01:05:19 It's got to be number one. You would think it's a number one song, right? I thought for sure. I say, like, not an official. I say not an official single. It was an official single. At some point, it did come out as an official single. It wouldn't be being played here. It has to be top 20.
Starting point is 01:05:35 If You Can't Touch This is a song that transcended pop culture. It was like Michelle from Full House was saying, you can't touch this, dude. This was like her up there with the Urkel and the Simpsons and all the shit that was going on. Did you try over there? There was an MC Hammer cartoon that I probably did a voice on. So what what what what number on the chart?
Starting point is 01:05:58 OK, well, you've tipped your hand. So clearly it didn't reach number one. I'm going to go to number one. I'm going to say eight. Yeah, I'll say like nine, like something just like meh. Actual retail price. Number eight, number eight.
Starting point is 01:06:17 But the album was number one for 20 weeks or something. Yes. Right. This song, you can't touch this. So let's play like, uh, I sent you a little mind ball.
Starting point is 01:06:25 We can just keep talking. Here, I'll start it up though because I mean, I don't think it's going to blow any minds, but I'm glad you're playing it. What the hell? How did you think
Starting point is 01:06:36 that he's not going to be able to get away with that? And remember, Rick James has quite the connection with Toronto. Right? Yeah, he used to come and hang out in New Yorkville. He was a draft dodger and came to Toronto.
Starting point is 01:06:51 Yeah, Minerbirds, I think. With Neil Young. Neil Young. Young Neil. And he lived in Buffalo, I think, after that. I went to, I spent a weekend in Buffalo right before the pandemic with the MF. And we went to actually the Western New York. They had a little museum there and they had a music section.
Starting point is 01:07:10 They actually had like a Rick James like starters jacket type gimmick there. Like behind glass. He's such a big deal in New York. And they also had some stuff by the Goo Goo Dolls in there. Of course, of course. Now, I just want to say hi to Y to yyz gourd who's watching us live at live.torontomic.com he says good evening guys nice to see bob and glad to see stew safely back i think we're all happy that stew's back home and we're always happy to see bob
Starting point is 01:07:37 sure you are stew you got any i'm uh you know it's funny stew uh your notes had me playing another jam i switched it up on you because of cam i know i know but i'm not as sharp as i used to be uh you know i'm not as sharp as i used to be also a grunge song i'm half them yeah i think that was in the mix stone temple pilot i was played on the episode where you got your balls cut off yeah summer creep there's a lot of, much like the title of a song, Jump, and there's several kind of interesting songs called Jump. There's a lot
Starting point is 01:08:12 of songs that are of interest called Creep. Well, those three were like all in the same, like within like 12 months. Yeah, right. So that was like a bang, bang, bang on the Creep front. Two grunge songs, by the way. Radiohead, I guess that would be their grungiest. That's their creep front. Two grunge songs, by the way. Radiohead?
Starting point is 01:08:27 I guess that would be their grungiest. That's their grungiest song. And the TLC track, too. Dust is pretty grungy, too. It is. Yes, I agree. So do you want me to roll into my second jam? Please.
Starting point is 01:08:42 All right, here we go. Attention, all ladies. Who's that? This was on the top ten. This is a top ten song. For those that want to get busy, you've got to speak up now. I love this song. This rhyme, this time, is one of a kind. Blowing your mind like only the Candyman can.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Like a heavyweight champion. Knocking them out, another bout without a doubt. Once again, you can scream and shout When I rock the bells, yell out my name This is what you've been missin' Listen to my heartbeat while I'm whisperin' I know you're sufferin' So sweet a candy man, sweet nothin's
Starting point is 01:09:18 Huggin' and tuggin' and rubbin' Lovin' it all, havin' a ball All y'all girlies next to me Talkin' sex to me. We can't do that yet, but I bet we'll chill. Candyman, tell him the truth. We'll still end up knockin' the boots. Ooh, boy, I love you so.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Never, ever gonna let you go. Once I get my hands on you. At each and every show, there's this groupie. Artist knows what she wants. Knockin'. Oh, yeah. And it's much like a lot of the jams we've heard so far today. This is one of those. Everybody loves Knockin' the Boots by Candyman. I was going to say that's a girl talk.
Starting point is 01:09:59 One, two. Like that part we just heard. And, you know, I should keep track of all the connections a lot of these jams will have to Tone Loke. This was a hard song to get. You had to get the cassette single like in Buffalo if you wanted this song. Is that right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:18 It wasn't a big hit in Canada. I was going to say, I don't think I know this song. I definitely knew it, but it was like when I went to Florida, I heard it. But it got top. I don't know if it this song. I definitely knew it. When I went to Florida, I heard it. I don't know if it was CFTR or 640. Whatever Top 40 I was listening to at the time was playing this song. Big Hit.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Obviously a Big Hit if it's being played today, Mike. It would have to be. Well, who wants to guess where this peaked on the Billboard Hot 100? Number 9? Is that a Beatles reference? Come here, Dib nine. You nailed it! Number nine.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Well done. And who do you think discovered Candyman? Tone Loke. Brian Bonsall. Young MC. Tone Loke is correct. Chris Wardman. You're right. He did discover the Watchmen. Did you hear that revelation?
Starting point is 01:11:06 Shout out to Sammy. Shout out to Sammy and Danny who he says in the days before you could correct the pitch and stuff he loved working
Starting point is 01:11:12 with Danny Graves because he was pitch perfect. Yeah. Belvedere tones. Absolutely. So Tone Loke discovers Candyman
Starting point is 01:11:19 and that first voice you hear in the intro to the song That belongs to who wants to guess whose voice that is? The guy from Fern Gully The Lost Rainforest. and that first voice you hear in the intro to the song. All ladies. That belongs to, who wants to guess whose voice that is? The guy from Fern Gully, The Lost Rainforest. Is that Tone Loke? Yes.
Starting point is 01:11:36 All right, so this is from Candyman's debut, Ain't No Shame In My Game. Came out in 1990. And please don't put a gun to my head and say, name another Candyman song because I would be dead. I don't think Tone Loke has any of his money left either. Like a sad story over there in Lokeland, I think. Tone Loke, much like when Young MC
Starting point is 01:11:54 showed up in Up in the Air, right Cam? I believe Tone Loke showed up in something. He was like a real actor though. He was in Ace Ventura. He did show up in a lot of stuff. He was in The Hard Way with Jeff Woods. real actor though like he was in ace venture you're right he did show up in a lot of things like the hard way with uh jeff jeff uh no woods woods hard way no james wood james woods that fucker that right wing bastard saw that yeah big big uh big trumper quick uh yeah big trumper
Starting point is 01:12:17 what an idiot but what a fucking great simpsons cameo yeah that's a fan that's the biggest gap between like amazing simpsons cameo and person you've become well plus he has the forced uh can con of uh what was it he was in the david uh fuck who's that guy scanners the canadian cronenberg david cronenberg he was in like one of those like a videotron videotron david cronenberg's daughter took that photo uh not that it's a real photo it's doctored but that Drake photo where he's sitting on the CN Tower
Starting point is 01:12:48 is that true? that's David Cronenberg's daughter okay that's a fun fact it's not to scale though I think she took two separate photos Drake's a big dude okay awesome we're now moving on to Stu Stone's
Starting point is 01:13:04 second jam yeah so um no we're not no we're not i'm fucking up my order because i cam's third jam what say you cameron it's a cam jam um we're good we're gonna do like a you know this is this is definitely a hip-hop, but it's a bit of a slow jam too. And it's good for a Ridley funeral home, I feel like. Absolutely. Yeah, a lot of death in this one. Let's hit the music. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Starting point is 01:13:39 Tell me what you're going to do but it ain't nowhere to run. Just because for you. It's like a different category, like late 90s. But it's still good. Hitting the post. You gotta hear Cam do this on karaoke now. It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Bring Sam to the house. It's like this video we've got a 24 hour loop. Agreed. Pretty much, yeah. We gotta wait for the chorus before I bring it down. Now follow me, Ro. Now follow me, Ro. I gotta say this song still still kicks ass what a fucking great jam yeah and she does the hard parts for sure. Bones, Thugs, and Harmony.
Starting point is 01:15:06 The Crossroads. A number... We've heard a lot of number... Mike, this is probably like... Have you ever had more number one hits in the US than this episode? On this hip-hop episode. This was the number one track.
Starting point is 01:15:19 Wow. From 1996. Only went to number 17 in Canada. Little light. Little light. I feel like we were a little more rock heavy on our chart, and they were more R&B and rap heavy on the U.S. charts. Totally.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Bob, would you agree? Bob, you're the expert. I don't know if I'm the expert. Yeah, this band wouldn't have had much radio play in Toronto. Maybe Z-1033 whatever its incarnation was whatever whatever it was then and uh like what years is from uh 96 so 96 yeah like the the top 40 rap scene in toronto for radio there's not a lot there it's much or nothing but who's playing it's much music that's it right much yeah there's no urban radio in toronto at that point well i i i feel like my my sort of foggy memories
Starting point is 01:16:10 of bone thugs and harney nope um it was one of those names like because like i was sort of a nerd where i'd like read like billboard magazine back i would sort of see these names like oh this is like a top five album their previous one i'm like i have no idea who this band is and then this track came out all over much music probably like a number one at much music i would imagine and then i'm sure did not really have anything else to chart in canon then we're i mean they were always around but they didn't really they had bone in biggie biggie is bone in biggie biggie they also had a first of the month Yeah but this was the
Starting point is 01:16:47 They were the musical guest on the Jamie Kennedy Stu Stone New Year's Eve special Whoa really Holy fuck When was that We've never talked about this before No that's just like specific Like 2005
Starting point is 01:17:02 New Year's Eve 2013 At 12 o'clock midnight As the clock strikes midnight No, that's just like specific, like 2005. New Year's Eve 2013. 2013. At 12 o'clock midnight, as the clock strikes midnight, I've got Bone Thug's book to sing first of the month. Okay. They do Crossroads as well. And they do Bone and Biggie as well. And they do not censor their performance at all.
Starting point is 01:17:20 And we almost, I mean, the evidence is out there for yourself to go dig and see what happened. Okay. Check out YouTube. Are there, are these, are they good to deal with good guys you'll have to watch the video wow okay nice that's why stew's here man holy bringing the heat interesting hey um go ahead cam yeah so that this song is obviously about a in memorandum of, you know, people that have passed. Yeah, I mean, originally, this song was dedicated to Buzzy Bones' dead friend, Wallace Laird. But in the recording of this song, their mentor, the great Eazy-E, passed away. So they kind of put Wallace off to the side.
Starting point is 01:18:05 And then if you remember the video, they were sort of Eazy-E sort of kind of like snarling in front of the sun or something um but kind of like a memorandum to just all the people in their lives that had passed um it's a pretty pretty sad hip-hop song i must say i've always enjoyed this track good song and a solemn song and uh bob, before I forget, do you think, Mr. Bob Ouellette, that James B. is famous? I mean, the time it took him to answer this question.
Starting point is 01:18:37 He has a degree of fame, yes. Okay, so from your Danforth Music Hall perch, is James B Danforth Music Hall perch, is James B. famous from that perspective, where you are right now in the city of Toronto? I would say, arguably, you'd walk down the street and talk to 100 people in Toronto, and maybe 10 would know who James B. is.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Does that mean famous? That's a high number. That's high. You think 10 is too high? No, I think you're pretty close to exactly right. Go ahead. A lot more people listen to Jazz FM than you think. And he's got a memorable appearance. No one else looks like that.
Starting point is 01:19:12 I know who he is, so he definitely gets my vote. Yeah, I don't know. What part of the city are we talking? Like, New Yorkville? Are we talking about, like, you know, Mike is? This is a good point. Don't do this in Mississauga nobody knows James being careful
Starting point is 01:19:26 it's good before we leave Bone Thugs-N-Harmony let's do sort of like a Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs kind of gimmick can you guys name the four members of Bone Thugs-N-Harmony well I cannot Lazy Bone
Starting point is 01:19:42 Crazy Bone that's two who in harmony? Oh, I cannot. Lazy Bone. Crazy Bone. Crazy Bone. That's two. Who? Wish Bone. Wish Bone. Yeah. Not to be mistaken
Starting point is 01:19:52 with the dog. Lazy, crazy, lazy, Wish Bone. Crazy Legs. Hmm. Oh. No. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:59 Last one's Flesh. Flesh Bone. Yeah, because Flesh and Bone. Wow. Okay, remember, Stu did share a stage with these gentlemen. I hope he knows their names.
Starting point is 01:20:07 They'll have to look it up on YouTube. See if they remember mine. I'm going to do that tonight. I can't wait. Okay, so let's reset here. Let's give some love to Liberty Village
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Starting point is 01:20:27 their temporary tattoos, their badges. Sorry, this there, this here, does this look familiar? This is from a TMLX event, sticker you made that. So shout out to sticker you.com. Some creep on a bike left one of those in my mailbox. Just kidding. Oh, I did mean, I've had a, recently I've made
Starting point is 01:20:46 a bunch of bike trips to FOTM's mailboxes to give them their stickers from Sticker You. So DM me if you want me to do that for you. Okay, so where are we at now? I've lost track.
Starting point is 01:20:55 So that was by Cam. So Stu, you're next. What say you about your next jam? Oh, we've heard this guy's name so many times that I like wish that I picked something else. But let's just go.
Starting point is 01:21:04 Let's do it from the hit film Uncle Buck yes Macaulay Culkin again Like this beat still slaps Working all week Nine to five for my money So on the weekend comes I go get live with the honey Rolling down the street, I saw this girl when she was pumping. I winked my eyes, got into the ride, went to a club, went jumping. Introduced myself as low, she said, you're a liar. I said, I got it going on, baby doll, and I'm a
Starting point is 01:21:59 liar. Took her to the hotel, she said, you're the king,. So be my queen, if you know what I mean. Let's do the wild thing. Wild thing. I mean, can you hear me now? Or people are having trouble hearing. I think they could only hear you. But I don't know what Zoom did with that music audio. The music dropped down low.
Starting point is 01:22:23 It's for the best. The recording is pristine. That's for the best. The recording is pristine. That's what matters most. We've got a wild thing, Tone Logue. And I remember the very first batch of CDs. We've talked about this before, but I got a CD player. I think it was a bar mitzvah gift, I want to
Starting point is 01:22:37 say. I got a CD player, Bob. Bar mitzvah, that's when you turn 13. They circumcise you and they give you a stare. No, they don't do that. And Brian Master, he was playing your bar mitzvah, that's when you turn 13. Yes. They circumcise you and they give you a scare. No, they don't do that. And Brian Master, he was playing your Bar Mitzvah, right? Brian Master was playing. Brian Master. F-O-T-M, Brian Master.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Brian Master for sure played Tom Loach Wild Thing at the Bar Mitzvah. Like, no doubt about it. I should bring him into the episode. He's doing nothing in his Mimico condo. I don't want to embarrass him. So. Good guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Oh, sweetheart. Sweetheart. If he sponsors the show, here we go. He did for a while. I know. I love Brian. We actually had our big reconnection over a dish of Palma Pasta. That warms my heart, by the way.
Starting point is 01:23:18 That's a true story. I told him, I said, hey, you DJ my bar mitzvah. He said, did I? Was this at Palma Pasta? This was at Palma Pasta. It was like me, I said, hey, you DJ my bar mitzvah. He said, did I? Was this at Palma Pasta? This was at Palma Pasta. Okay, TMLX5. It was like me, Wilner, and Masters. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:23:32 I was going to say, did Peter Gross try to get in on that action? He loves his Palma Pasta. No, we were eating the vegetarian fettuccine. Anyway, wow thing. fettuccine. Anyway, wow thing. The,
Starting point is 01:23:47 the, from the motion picture soundtrack, Uncle Buck, which I opened with, this was a big song. Obviously, Tone Loke's other song is a little problematic nowadays. The Funky Cold Medina is basically not,
Starting point is 01:24:03 I wouldn't, I would say that that song should probably be banned at this point. That's like a Bill Cosby anthem, right? That's sort of the Bill Cosby... Put a little Medina in your glass. Yeah, it's like sort of the Bill Cosby Spanish fly routine, but put to rap. Right. And at the time, the 11-year-old kids were singing it,
Starting point is 01:24:16 and it was no problem. Right. Drugging people and taking advantage of them sexually was a cool thing to do, I guess. It was all in the game. Back in those days. Not anymore. What a mess.
Starting point is 01:24:28 The Funky Cold Medina. No, but this is Wild Thing, which is Tomo's best song, best known song. We know now that Young MC wrote most of this song. This is really what put Young MC's name up in lights. If you could write this, let's give him, see what else he could do. And I'm probably guessing Young MC may have been involved in that Candyman song
Starting point is 01:24:51 as well, if I had a gun to my head and had to guess. Maybe. ToneLoke's song peaked at what number in February of 1989? Wild Thing? Five. I'd say three. This was a big big big fucking pretty close to a number one hit i'd say i i think i feel like it should have been it was everywhere i would have to say bob is gonna get the points on this one this was as close to number one as you can get because it was number
Starting point is 01:25:18 two ouch cock blocked from the top spot by what song folks folks? Simply Red, If You Don't Know Me By Now. Incorrect. Foreigner. Incorrect. Sorry, 89. Paula Abdul's Straight Up. Oh, Straight Up. Straight Up, Don't Tell Me featuring Arsenio Hall.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Right. Straight Up. Which is a great jam, too. Now, I remember as i started this whole uh spiel i got the cd player for the bar mitzvah the circumcision and the stereo so i went and i got to go and purchase a handful of cds some compact discs and the first batch that i ever owned included nina's Buffalo Stance album. And it included Tone Loke, Wild Thing,
Starting point is 01:26:10 whatever the fucking album was called, Loked After Dark, I think. Did the Moyle come with you? No. And I also got Soul to Soul was another album that I got. Oh, I love it. It's a reality. These are good. Yeah, not bad, right? Not bad. love it. These are good. Not bad, right?
Starting point is 01:26:26 Pretty cool kids. My fourth one was Black Box. Everybody. Is that Strike It Up? Strike It Up. Everybody. We could do a whole thing with C&C Music Factory, Black Box.
Starting point is 01:26:45 It's not the New Jack Swing. I don't know what you would call that. It's like a dance mix stuff. Captain Hollywood. I put Captain Hollywood maybe even in Euro. La Bouche? Yeah, La Bouche. Yeah, there you go.
Starting point is 01:27:00 You know what, Cam? You had some... No, I think what Bob is referring to more is songs that were dancey that had rap in them. Like C&C Music Factory. KLF. KLF, uh-huh. Talk to you.
Starting point is 01:27:16 You had Snap. I Got the Power. Those are three pretty good ones. Like Euro Trash with rap. Yeah. Freedom Williams was with rap. Yeah. But Freedom Williams was the producer, right? He was CNC Music Factory, and he did a bunch of other stuff. But I feel like CNC were the producers.
Starting point is 01:27:33 Clivels and Cole, right? That's the producers. Freddie did the rap on it, but I think CNC were the producers. Things that make you go, hmm. And one of the Cs, just like one of the Chris Cross guys, one of the CNC guys died quite a long time ago. Before we leave Tone Low, have we talked about Van Halen yet? I'm getting there.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Okay. Slow your roll, Cam. Fuck. You want to know why this Tone Low song made so much money for everybody? Because it was like... It was awesome. It's fitting that one of the first one of the first albums I would buy as a registered
Starting point is 01:28:08 adult Jew would be a Tone Loke album on an album that where the guy saved so much fucking money. Is there really a registry? Is there? I think there is. I've got a card. Everyone Stu has license. I just want to say
Starting point is 01:28:23 Stu has license here. Yeah. The music video for Wild Thing cost a total of $500. Wow. But wait, wait, wait. Isn't this- It was kind of like a Robert Palmer ripoff. It was a Robert Palmer.
Starting point is 01:28:38 It was a Robert Palmer ripoff in black and white with miniskirted women playing guitars next to Tone Loke. It was frequently shown on MTV. The budget was $500. Also, the song did not get Van Halen's permission, which we'll hear Van Halen shortly, to put out the album. And Van Halen offered to settle for $5,000. Wow. He used the fact. You know what Tone Loke probably said? Let's do it. Yeah. Eventually
Starting point is 01:29:09 the song became a huge hit and Van Allen took him back to court saying, well, wait, wait, wait, wait. I know we agreed to $5,000. Just kidding. A grand total that Van Allen received from the royalties on Tone Loke's wild thing in a settlement in court.
Starting point is 01:29:26 One hundred and eighty thousand dollars. Wow. That's brutal. Brutal. So Tone Loke, lots of profit on this one. And here is the sample that he famously used without permission. What's the question? What? Can you run it back to the beginning?
Starting point is 01:29:58 It dropped out. I want people to hear it. Okay, I'll do it again. Okay, here it is again from the top. Hopefully Zoom doesn't fuck this up for you. But this is a trend at this time. Like I'm thinking of Vanilla Ice with the Freddie Mercury, David Bowie. Well, it really started with the Run DMC doing Walk This Way and Ice and LL Cool J. Yeah, but Walk This Way was a partnership, right?
Starting point is 01:30:36 Like, they had... Sure, but it was also, you know, a very successful song sampling. No, but I'm thinking of, like, doing it without any thought to, like, credit. Oh, yeah. No, this was going on all over the place at that point. Like all the samples of Billy Squire. And Billy Squire is where Maestro
Starting point is 01:30:54 Fresh West lets your backbone slide from. But Bob knows that because I heard him say it. Van Halen. This song went to number two on L'Echarte. This is went to number two on Le Charte. This is Jamie's Crying. Jamie's Crying?
Starting point is 01:31:08 Is that the name of the song? Yes. And in Canada, Wild Thing went to number seven. So this is Jamie's Crying, not to be confused with Janie, who has a gun. Right. Just to be clear here. Okay. Oh, by the way, we never really did a gun. Right. Just to be clear here. Okay. Oh, by the way, we never really did a memorial.
Starting point is 01:31:26 I feel like Jim Steinem passed away, and he seems to be a guy we talk about a lot on Pandemic Fridays. Of course, the Hulk Hogan's theme song from the Hulk Hogan's rock and wrestling cartoon. So maybe when we do the... Ravishing. Yes, when we... Ravishing, that's right. Not to be confused with Rick Rude, but when we
Starting point is 01:31:41 do the wrestling jams thing in my backyard, maybe then we'll do a little off the top. We'll do a little. That'll be fun. Yeah. Off the top rope. He also,
Starting point is 01:31:50 of course, wrote the Bushwhackers theme. I think he also co-wrote. I like how he said, of course, as if it was something we should know. The Rougeau brothers, all American boys.
Starting point is 01:31:59 Famously collaborated on the powers of pain theme song. I believe Mr. Fuji's entrance. And, and of course, everyone's favorite outback jack tiny can't grow down yes canada kev just wants us all oh right there right behind me wow tyler had several appearances on the early days of pandemic friday seemed like every other week we were talking about bon Tyler. Well, yeah, Jim Steinem Productions there. Okay, so Beastie Boys were... This is Canada Kev. He says,
Starting point is 01:32:29 Beastie Boys were using lots of Van Halen samples before this, but of course, yes. They were the kings of not clearing samples. Paul's Boutique was like the most famous most samples of any album ever, and it was a huge story I remember back when I was... That was like the end of the era. After that, you had to clear album ever and it was a huge story i remember back when i was that was like the
Starting point is 01:32:47 end of the era like after that you had to clear everything and it became too expensive to make well i think it actually to me the end of that era was more of like that puff daddy era there was like this lord tarik peter gunn song where they sampled a steely dan uh a steely dan song do you know what I'm talking about? I do, but I don't. It's called Uptown. It was like... I have an irrational hatred for Steely Dan.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Steely Dan. It's because you don't... It's not the band you hate. It's their fans. That's what I think, Bob, with Steely Dan. I love Steely Dan. Never gotten into them.
Starting point is 01:33:28 Well, Stu's a big yacht rock guy. Yeah, you'll get there, Bob. It comes with age. I got a couple years on you, man. See, I'm willing to bet Bob's older than Stu. That's my bet. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:33:38 I'm an old soul, my friend. Wait, you bar mitzvahed in 88? No, I bar mitzvahed in 78. No, you circumcised in 88. You guys ready for my third jam? Fuck yeah. Whoever wrote Asia Rules is correct. That's a great album.
Starting point is 01:33:53 Yeah, that's Canada Kev. Okay. Here's my third jam. Get ready. Break. This was a top 10 song? I don't know about that. I can try anything.
Starting point is 01:34:06 I like your third best song. And you meant fucking homework. Yeah. It's a good song, but it surprises me. It's more like it's a good rap song. Just waking up in the morning, gotta thank God I don't know, but today seems kinda odd No market from the dark, no small
Starting point is 01:34:31 And mama cooked a breakfast with no hog I got my grub on, but didn't dig out Finally got a call from a girl I wanna dig out Hooked it up for later as I hit the door Thinking will I live another 24 I gotta go cause I got me a drop top And if I hit the switch I can make the ass drop Had to stop at a red light
Starting point is 01:34:54 Looking in my mirror not a jacker in sight And everything is alright I got a beat from Kim And she can fuck all night Caught up the homies at I'm asking y'all, which part are y'all playing basketball? What's that, Stu? Put me on the court and I'm troubled.
Starting point is 01:35:12 It feels like this song is too good to be hip-hop. Yeah. And I'm going to play a song later that also is going to feel like that as well. But I feel like the sub-genre, if we're going to classify it officially, this hip-hop, it's like songs that were specifically designed to be a pop hit. Not songs that crossed over like this did. But the only criteria is... No, no, you're right. Definitely this song qualifies.
Starting point is 01:35:38 I'm just saying, if we're going to be officially making a hip-hop subgenre, I feel like this song probably gets there because the math works out on it, but stylistically, it's not pop enough to me. Does that make sense? No, I hear you. What I find kind of fascinating is that
Starting point is 01:35:58 you would think we've kicked this out before, because it's like, we all love this song, but there's no evidence in the official spreadsheet that we've ever kicked out an Ice Cube jam before. Really? So this is the Ice Cube debut on Pandemic Friday. So lots to say here. We played NWA before.
Starting point is 01:36:17 Okay, yes, I actually only did a Control-F on Ice. So yes, okay, we might have kicked out some NWA, but okay. So sort of by calling out. I believe Cam kicked out some West Side Connection a few times. To be clear, I mean solo Ice Cube. I want to be clear about that. I kicked out the West Coast Rap All-Stars, which featured NWA. I thought you did.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Do what you like, unless you like gangbanging. Bob's our kind of people, okay? That's why he's here today. Alright, so what can I say about say about when I love this fucking jam? We all do. But let me share a couple of fun facts. Anyways, Ice Cube.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Okay. This came out in 1993. I actually bought this album, The Predator, based on the fact I heard Wicked. Yeah. And Wicked. I loved it when they put the reggae in with the rap. That was very popular at that time. And I fucking fucking loved it in fact uh what's that jam we we talked about doing a can con rap and i said mc rumble like we'll kick out some mc rumble like he was doing
Starting point is 01:37:15 that too like that it was really a sound she wrote was a big song also uh also flex time to have sex oh sure mad cobra yeah mr lover man shabba shabba and shabba was doing shit with like maxi priest song also. Also Flex, Time to Have Sex. Oh, sure. Mad Cobra. Yeah. Mr. Lover Man, Shabba. Shabba. And Shabba was doing shit with like Maxi Priest and stuff. It was all over the place. Das FX did a little bit of this type of stuff. Okay, so I'm going to quote Ice Cube about this.
Starting point is 01:37:37 This album is called The Predator. It's his third solo album after he left NWA. You might have heard this song, Benedict Arnold by NWA. That's about that. But this is the third solo album after he left nwa uh you might have heard this song benedict arnold by nwa that's about that but this is the third solo album the predator again also benedict arnold wrestling fans would have learned about benedict arnold because that's what gorilla monsoon would call anybody who's turned heel traitor if you turn heel you're benedict arnold when strike force broke up but uh r Rick Martel hightailed it
Starting point is 01:38:05 yeah that's Benedict Arnold the giant raked his big hand down Hulk's chest that's Benedict Arnold so this jam which came out in February 93 ever since people have been trying to figure out what day is he talking about because he drops all these hints what happened that day
Starting point is 01:38:20 you know and they're like what people are trying to figure out what day it is so I'm going to quote Ice Cube every time somebody tries to guess the day what happened that day, you know, and they're like, what people are trying to figure out what day it is. So I'm going to quote Ice Cube. Every time somebody tries to guess the day Ice Cube says, it's a fictional song. It's basically my interpretation of what a great day would be. Do you know what I'm saying? So, you know, it's a little of this and a little of that.
Starting point is 01:38:38 I don't think you can pinpoint the day. So we can stop trying to figure out what day it is because it's a fictional day. the day. So we can stop trying to figure out what day it is because it's a fictional day. We do know that he did also fictionalize his basketball score. Lakers beat the Supersonics. Is that one?
Starting point is 01:38:53 He hit a triple-double and Lakers beat the Sonics. Right. Last week, he fucked around and got a triple-double. He does talk about Kim, who can fuck all night. He does end up marrying Kim. It's like a fairy tale. Famously ends up marrying
Starting point is 01:39:10 Eminem as well. So there was a bit of a... So... His wife, Kim? I know, I get it. There's a Kim and then Haley is the byproduct of the Kim Marshall Mathers relationship.
Starting point is 01:39:26 Kim's Convenience, which is a show that's... Which I'm very disappointed in the ending of Kim's Convenience. What a shitty way to end that series. Kim Chi. Andy Kim. Andy Kim. Kim Chi, the handler of the Ugandan headhunter, Kamala.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Also the side dish at a Korean barbecue. And a character on Kim's Convenience. Kim Possible, a cartoon that Bob's kids watch. Don't think they do. My first girlfriend, her name was Kim, and I've never met a Kim that isn't crazy. Oh, Kimberly Drummond was on Death for Different Strokes. Kimberly Gibbler was on Cam's Locker.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Did you guys remember 9-11? You remember when that happened? Yes, September 11th. The World Series that year? Who was the last pitcher? Oh, Kim. Oh, no. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:40:13 He wasn't. I was going to say Byung-Yong Kim, but he actually lost Game 6. Anyway, never mind. I think it was Mariano Rivera. And if you spell Kim backwards, it's almost Mike. It's almost Mike. Like E-Kim. There you go.
Starting point is 01:40:24 You're almost there. Okay. Shout out to Kim's. Okay, so let's confirm that this song does qualify. Who wants to guess where this peaked on the Billboard Hot 100? It was A Good Day by Ice Cube. 10. 19. Yeah, I say like 14. I don't think this is top 10. 67.
Starting point is 01:40:39 Some good guesses out there. It was 15. So it peaked at number 15. I think like for our hip-hop category i think they have to be in the top 10 like officially like if we're going to make a website and we're going to brand this thing right and then we're going to like go on cruises and bob's going to dj the saturday night captain's ball we gotta really organize what i i feel like these have to be songs if there was like a bachelorette party. If this song went on, there'd be squealing and
Starting point is 01:41:07 the girls night at wine. The rosé would be flowing. Isn't that a sangria? Yeah, it's a punch bowl. Gerardo Rico Suave qualifies. Oh yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:41:21 White Claws would be cracking. This is a Toronto mic, so Pandemic Friday. So if it got played on Chum FM, then it counts. And that did not get played on Chum FM. I think that's the way you look at it. As a radio guy, that's the way I always look at things. If Brian Masters
Starting point is 01:41:38 spins it out of Bar Mitzvah, then it counts. But Bob, were they playing any rap on Chum FM? Oh, yeah. They were. For sure. In the 90s? I know.
Starting point is 01:41:47 I never listened once. Lucas with the lit off. They would have played Kish. Kish? Man, I don't think they would have done a rap in the world. No, they weren't doing that. But they weren't playing Humpty Dance on Chum. No, but they do now.
Starting point is 01:42:00 That's the irony. They would now on the back of the day. Okay. Would Bust a Move get spun on 104.5? Yes, Chum FM played Bust a Move. I can guarantee you. Mix 99.9. But K7.
Starting point is 01:42:12 Hey, Stu, do you know who the first person was? Maybe come bounce. That's right. But all those other songs you mentioned, like the Maxi Priest and all that, those are all Chum FM fodder in the 90s. Yeah, Maxi Priest. Yeah, for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 01:42:25 But Stuart... Cam's a big John Sakata guy. I saw John Sakata on Broadway. I have a friend that once, when we were shooting the film Faking a Murderer, which is available on Hollywood Suite, David Kahn's network,
Starting point is 01:42:42 my buddy Mario, who was the first assistant director in the film, we would drive to the location and we had this blue convertible car that we would drive to the, to the shoot. And he played John Sakata, just another day without you on repeat for an entire drive all the way there.
Starting point is 01:42:59 And by the time like the song's on for the fourth time, you're like, you find yourself loving it. Like a Stockholm syndrome. by the seventh time around we're both just cruising down the gardener going like that is i feel like he was the first person i ever saw who had like invisalign like braces yeah so in 1997 or 98 i went on a school no it would have been. Can we guess what play it was? Yes, please do. 95 or 96.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I hope it wasn't Phantom of the Opera. I was going to say, no, Rent. No, it was not Rent. It was a revival. It was the same revival that Rosie O'Donnell played in. Damn Yankees. West Side Story. You're all done with showboat.
Starting point is 01:43:43 Grease. He played Danny Zuko. wow and he so okay yeah so he he i was on a school trip it was all the drama and choir kids and basically all the nerds and we all went to new york city in like i think i was like 18 or 19 uh back when there was still grade you know 17 in ontario and um we went and then he so he does the show it was we went, and then he does the show. It was John Saccato. And then he, afterwards, he sang Just Another Day. He sang the song as the, so they do Grease,
Starting point is 01:44:14 they do the curtain call, and then he comes back out. And he does it. Wow. Okay, sorry to sidetrack, but this is so like a bullseye I used to have a friend, she worked in sort of like publicity
Starting point is 01:44:31 so she gave me free tickets to the Blue Man group playing at the what later became the Panasonic Theatre The New Yorker, I think O'Keefe Centre back then What? A member of what 90s Can con band was part of that ensemble like from a musical performance i don't think he was all dressed in blue but he was doing some of
Starting point is 01:44:52 like the percussion and the music from what 90s canadian well 90s can con band give me a second like the local production of Blue Man Group. This would have been 2008. Edwin from I Mother Earth. No. Somebody from TV. Yes. I Mother Earth. It was Bruce Gordon. It was I Mother Earth.
Starting point is 01:45:17 The percussion is so huge in I Mother Earth. Well done. Well done. Nailed it. Bob's an impressive man that was huge i'm like that was seriously impressive props well thank you gentlemen that's very nice and the john zakata story is incredible he's just like still in like the get up yeah he's still dressed as danny suko he's got his thunderburst jacket on okay stew here's a trivia question for you since it just came up.
Starting point is 01:45:46 Stu, who do you think was the first person... Hold on. Before you say that, Mike, I just want to say I would have preferred to see John Sakata in the stage production of Grease 2. Oh, yes. Go ahead, Mike. Who do you think was the first person to say Mix 99.9 on
Starting point is 01:46:03 the air? Whoa. Whoa. Hold, whoa, whoa. And then Bob, hold your fire, Bob. Guns blazing like Susan Hay over there. Mix 99.9. I don't think Brian Master was ever at Mix. Roger Rick in Maryland. Brian Master was a CHFI guy.
Starting point is 01:46:19 Yeah, he was a CHFI guy. He was like Brian Master. But he was a Chum FM guy back in the day. Don Jackson. Okay, here's a clue. Bob and I have something in common. We were both producer for this guy and his show. Humble Howard.
Starting point is 01:46:36 Yes, Humble Howard. Howard Glassman. Howard Glassman. So he's at Edge 102 or whatever they were calling it, 102.1. And he leaves after, I don't know, 18 months with Fred. He gets recruited from Montreal, does like 18 months. Then he goes to 99.9. He's the first guy to say that as morning show
Starting point is 01:46:53 when they switched it from CKFM to Mix 99.9 or whatever. And then after, I don't know, another 18 months, he goes back to Freddy at CFNY. I remember they had TV commercials and like billboards and the whole gimmick. Like that was a big mug. But that was for the Humble and Fred move to Mix 99.9, which was
Starting point is 01:47:10 different. And Bob was part of that move. So Bob is with Humble and Fred when they leave Mojo Radio and they go to Mix 99.9. Oh shit, is that true? Yeah, I was the producer of the show. Oh, very cool. And then they all got fired at some point.
Starting point is 01:47:25 Well, Freddie got fired first, and then Howard jokes always that we were walking around the halls going, dead man walking. We know it's coming. It's coming. Self-fulfilling profits. We were there for that.
Starting point is 01:47:35 There you go. Well, now, much like GLB, fiercely independent. Exactly. Actually, I'm working for Chorus now, so I'm not fiercely into it. It all comes around. Right. We should point out, Bob is not just a podcaster in his basement, Bob's basement, but he is also working in Kingston, Ontario. Is that correct? I am running two radio stations, Fresh FM and Big FM for Chorus Entertainment in Kingston, Ontario. I'm the program manager.
Starting point is 01:48:04 Is that fun? You know what? It is really fun. It's very strange, to be completely honest, operating a radio station when you've never been in it. I'm not even allowed to go there. I haven't been to Kingston. I got hired in January.
Starting point is 01:48:17 I haven't been yet. I just hired a part-time announcer. I've never met her. I've never met my boss. I haven't met anybody. It's very, very weird. Interesting. Can you slip like circle, circle, dot, dot into the playlist?
Starting point is 01:48:31 Wait, wait, I got sidetracked here. I missed like so much of that. Where were you? Where did you go? No, I got like that phone call that I was seeing. I had to get rid of. Then I was answering the text. Okay, so just to bring you up to speed, Bob is a program manager for two stations uh chorus stations that are in kingston ontario sure and we're gonna get
Starting point is 01:48:51 them to play some circle circle dot dot oh he doesn't need to do that but what is your what what are the formats one is a classic hit station kind of a classic it's actually a classic hits classic rock hybrid, big FM. So it's kind of a little bit of Q107, a little bit of boom. And the other one is Fresh Radio, which was a format that was what Energy 95.3 was, fresh. And we are, there's about six. Up tempo? Yeah, hot AC, they call it. So similar, you know, here in Toronto, you would say our competition would be Chum FM and CHF.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Oh, okay. So you're listening to like – here's the new Maroon 5. Maroon 5, yeah, would be huge. Followed by some new Ed Sheeran. Exactly, exactly. Can I ask you guys a serious question? This is actually about real estate because I was arguing with MF. Not really arguing.
Starting point is 01:49:41 We're having an adult discussion. Ooh, Mike, there's an argument. Fracking the foundation. No, but okay. This is a... I won the bet, Stu. Okay. Kingston, Ontario. Could you see that being like a really hot spot to like live eventually? You know, a lot of people moving
Starting point is 01:49:55 out of Toronto. So, Gare Joyce just did that. Like, Gare Joyce just left Toronto for Kingston. Kingston's kind of awesome to spend time at. Like, it just, you know, it's a lot of history. It history it just it's sort of a decent size i think you're right does mf think nobody's going from toronto to kingston is that yeah well she she went to queens so like i feel like she's biased because like she's lived there and probably remembers those how long ago but well like like a while ago like not not recently but i i feel I feel like Kingston is a contender for
Starting point is 01:50:26 a cool place to live. The summer of 1998, I spent the summer in Kingston, Ontario. A movie called... The Boys. No, it's called Vendetta. Not V for Vendetta. Oh, the Joey Vendetta story.
Starting point is 01:50:42 No, Joey Vendetta's biopic. Christopher Walken is the star, so make fun. Whoa. Exactly. Slow the fuck down. But I had a hell of a summer in 1998 in Kingston with Christopher Walken. Kingston's a cool town.
Starting point is 01:50:58 The radio stations were pretty solid, Bob. K-Rock, yeah. K-Rock's the one that everybody knows. That's's the rogers owned one they bought it off of some local ownership and uh there you know what it's uh it's it's an interesting market because it's kind of isolated there's not a lot of bleed in you get a few stations from the states but it is its own market and uh we're uh we're doing some fun things i used to be famous for the jail but not anymore we don't know yeah it's famous now for the bathhouse, tragically hip and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:51:28 So, you know, I actually, you know, I will be happy to discuss some of the things that are coming up with these stations that I'm involved in. We're going to be doing some things that I don't want to say too much yet. Pandemic Friday is coming to your local. Traffic on the 10s and 20s. There you go. All traffic all the time in Kingston. Repeat Bob's basement all the time. I do radio. I'd listen to
Starting point is 01:51:53 that. Wake up Kingston. How you doing? It's too early in the morning. Yeah. You know what? Stu would be a good morning show host at hiring one. By the way, I'm hiring a morning show host. And what does that pay? What does it pay?
Starting point is 01:52:06 Bring us on soundboard. Morning is too early for me, but afternoon, I got afternoon drive. I got afternoon drive. There you go. What kind of compensation to be the afternoon drive on one of your stations? Can you do it remotely?
Starting point is 01:52:17 No, you gotta be. Well, I can. So I guess maybe, you know, you could. Hey,
Starting point is 01:52:21 Bob, you know, who's available. I heard, uh, Danny Stover is available. I saw she was on the SoundOff podcast. I didn't even know.
Starting point is 01:52:29 I guess they canceled the BlogTO podcast. Do you have to relocate to Kingston for this job? Yeah, I think that that is. So are you trying to hire a local or you're not going to farm somebody in? Sure they will. Oh, so what about Wilner? He's working at the Toronto Star. Mike fucking Wilner?
Starting point is 01:52:48 Will Wilner introduce Ed Sheeran? No, but I will. I can't afford you, Stu. Wow. We should apply us three. We create the Pandemic Fridays in Kingston. Let's monetize this shit. It's been a fucking year.
Starting point is 01:53:03 Kingston Mike. I'm still waiting to hear what that compensation is. Who is your alter ego I found on Twitter? Or Canadian Dave. Canadian Dave. He's like some old guy. Well, remember, we have a Canada Kevin in the chat over here.
Starting point is 01:53:19 I know, yeah. It's KKK. All right. Show for him. It's problematic. Okay, Cam Gordon, you have one more jam to go. Do you want to say any words before I... Well, I just want to say when you're living in the city,
Starting point is 01:53:32 it's do or die. Otherwise, I have no intro. So go ahead. Oh, that'd be me, probably. There was beef between Steve Dogg and Coolio over this song. All right. Woo! The juggalo himself. This one goes out to Lorne Honigman. We'll be right back. Put something in the tank and I know that I can move you if you can't take the heat. Get your ass out the kitchen. We on a
Starting point is 01:55:06 mission. Go along and ride on a fantastic slide slide, slippity slide. Bitches on the block in a 65. Go along and ride on a fantastic voyage by, of course,
Starting point is 01:55:22 that's the legendary Coolio. This was a fun fact, but something just came to mind when I heard that Slide Side Slippy Sly. I remember watching America's Funniest Home Videos once, and they had a compilation of people falling down, specifically modeled after that Slide Side Slippy Sly. And that was the song playing in the background. So anyway, big hit. Where do you guys think this placed in the background. So anyway, big hit.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Where do you guys think this placed in the US? Number three. Four. Yeah, seven. Seven. I gotta say, we're on point tonight. This was the number three hit. So gold medal to Stu.
Starting point is 01:56:02 Number eight in New Zealand. Much like the, I think it was the Crossroads went to number 17 in Canada. So did Fantastic Voyage by Coolio. Now, you know, we haven't gone to the geography segment before. Do you guys know where Coolio's from?
Starting point is 01:56:18 I think quite famously. Is this famous? I don't know. He's from Compton, like a lot of california but i wasn't sure where okay yeah now as we all know a lot of musicians have come out of compton would you guys like to know some non-musicians who are from compton i'm not sure if these are born and raised but people spend time time. So here we go. The Williams sisters. I was getting down for them, but sure.
Starting point is 01:56:48 Venus and Serena Williams. So we got let's do some actors first. So we got Anthony Anderson. Kind of a comedian and I'm trying to think why would I know Anthony? Hang time? Yeah. Me, myself, and Irene. he's one of the triplets
Starting point is 01:57:06 he's also like the star of like a black-ish Cam doesn't watch network television don't know what that is this is according to Wikipedia I'm a bit dubious about this Kevin Costner Kevin Costner famously got beaten up
Starting point is 01:57:22 by Cal Ripken because he made love to his wife allegedly little fuck face Costner? Famously got beaten up by Cal Ripken. Because he made love to his wife, allegedly. Little fuckface. Ava DuVernay? Wait, who? Let's move on. I think I put your name.
Starting point is 01:57:38 She's big on Twitter. Okay, I don't know that person. Okay, there was one musician in this list. Chris Novoselic. Wow. know that person um okay what there was one musician this list uh chris novosellick wow yeah who who also came up when we talked about um san pedro or same page san pedro well he talked about the minutemen before because he was also on the list on the wiki song no cam did we mention though that this geography corner is brought to you by esri canada's fine podcast geographically thinking they just dropped episode 10 and fotm mike ragotsky is very proud of
Starting point is 01:58:16 this episode and he should be shout out to the host kwan it's it's it's a cool podcast um let's let's go to the sports realm uh the the most obvious name compton born athletes in this city is of course demar derosen exactly of course um as well other nba greats we got james harden we got baron davis we got tyson chandler and we got uh let's go back to the 80s uh dj dennis johnson wow we've got uh moving on to other sports pete roselle used to be what nfl nfl commissioner um let's let's play some baseball now we got duke snyder wow okay we've got i know cory snyder's from neighboring and duke is referenced in the uh the great great song, Mickey and the Duke, or whatever the fuck it's called. We kicked it out the other day.
Starting point is 01:59:07 That's right, we did hear it. Racist Duke Snyder. Now, we've- Isn't he the one that was like, Jackie Robinson's not allowed to play, or something like that? Was that Duke's? No.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Oh, no. That can't be Duke. That's, no. I'm just spreading rumors, folks. Come on. He's- He can catch me on the drive home. Kingston, are you with me? Coming up
Starting point is 01:59:25 after this block. Could you imagine if R. Stu Stone ends up on the radio in Kingston thanks to this pandemic? Stranger things have happened. I'm down. He was in fucking Donnie Darko, Bob. I know. We're looking for the 12th caller. I would listen. I would stream
Starting point is 01:59:41 that shit every day. I'm going to ask a trivia question and then I'm just going to answer it because I think this would be hard to get. Okay. Names that are both an NFL player and a major league baseball player. Eddie Murray. Right. That's a good one.
Starting point is 01:59:55 This is the Oriole, Eddie Murray, not the, was the Eddie Murray, the kicker. Was he Canadian? The baseball player. Eddie Murray, the baseball player. Along with Dave Winfield. I can't think of a more feared hitter in their prime. Eddie Murray would come in the batter's box,
Starting point is 02:00:12 and it would look like he's going to kill you. Pitchers must have been so scared when he came in the box, and I put Dave Winfield in his prime in that same sort of category. Yeah. Well, he was also famously bad with the press, Eddie Murray. And a final name for Major League Baseball. Here's a trivia question. Who's the only player who had a grand slam in the 1992 World Series?
Starting point is 02:00:40 You guys might have watched a few of those games. Only player that had a grand slam. Terry Pendleton. Ron Gant. Dave Justice. No. You're close. watched a few of those games. Terry Pendleton, Ron Gant, Dave Justice. You're close. You're getting close, pal. Mickey Morandini. Sid Bream. No, right team, Ron.
Starting point is 02:00:55 Lonnie Smith. No, Blue Jay did it. I would remember that. All good guesses. It was Lonnie Smith who also played against the Jays back in 1985. Yeah, with the Royals. Yeah. Wasn't he also... Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:13 Fuck George Brett. That fucker. I'm telling you, that was ours. That's Cam's favorite player, by the way, George. He's a great player, but he had the hemorrhoids, right? He shit in his pants once during a game. Well, you know it hurts. I know I used to talk about the hemorrhoids, right? He shit in his pants for one string again. Well, you know it hurts. I know I used to talk about the hemorrhoids being this big. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:28 Okay, turn off your fucking phone. A ton of fun facts about Coolio. I'm going to go through these really quick because we spent a lot of time on geography. Much like MC Hammer sampling Super Freak, this song sampled the song Fantastic Voyage by the band Lakeside. Basically the same song
Starting point is 02:01:45 Stu I don't think we saw him But Coolio actually played the side stage At La Palooza in 95 We talked about that show many many times He was actually in Barry on the side stage Really? That's pretty fascinating I can tell you some interesting fun facts
Starting point is 02:02:02 About that song if you want them Kim voluntarily. Go right ahead. Fantastic voyage is another one of these misunderstood songs that could be played in another episode where you hear these really up-tempo, great songs in their party jams, but it's really about going on a drive by shooting. That's the actual song.
Starting point is 02:02:20 Fantastic voyage. The fantastic voyage he's inviting you on is to go shoot some people in a drive-by so that's something to think about next time you listen to the song fun fact wow also snoop dog uh was pretty upset with the george clinton uh sample here because it was very close to his doggy dog type of style that he even called out coolio in his song it's a doggy dog world where he says something like it's like everywhere i went and everywhere i go i hear motherfuckers trying to steal my flow it ain't no thing to see some coolio i forget the words but he's there a little on the nose um anyway a few more fun facts about coolio um he actually has a juggalo
Starting point is 02:03:02 tattoo i know he's a juggalo. Yeah, performed at the Gathering of the Juggalos. His last full-length album, 2019. Did you guys pick this one up? Do you know what it's called? I actually directed the music video. Bob's got it behind him. There you go. It was called I'm not making this up, Nobody's
Starting point is 02:03:19 Coolio. Swear to God, that's the album. And last but not least, this is probably the only artist that we've talked about today actually ran for president, or sorry, was on a presidential ticket in 2020. One of Stu's favorite actors,
Starting point is 02:03:38 she's a pornographic actress, Sherry DeVille. Sherry. Sherry. Thank you. Ran to be the Democratic nom. Lost out to obviously Joe Biden. Did you see who else was on his ticket?
Starting point is 02:03:54 Virgil. Is that true? I swear to God. That's 100% true. And do you know how I know? How do you know? Virgil, of course, the bodyguard to the multi-million dollar man. Who calls him that?
Starting point is 02:04:08 A guy maybe you've heard of, Hulk Hogan. I call him Terry. Multi-million dollar man, dude. I can't wait for the wrestling episode. Brother! You're crackling
Starting point is 02:04:23 there. Stu's like Googling Virgil. I was actually just considering a cameo with Ted DiBiase. My cousin. I was actually going to pay for it. Ted DiBiase could probably use the money. All right, producer notes. Somebody's feeding back.
Starting point is 02:04:42 Does anybody know who's feeding back? Okay, you sure it's not you? I feel I have to mute you and decide who it is. Weird. I'm going to go and mute. Go and mute until I decide who this is. Keep talking, somebody who can talk. Bob, how are you doing there? Are you enjoying
Starting point is 02:05:01 your first Pandemic Friday? This is lovely. I will unmute here. It's not Bob. Not me. Okay. Now give me a Cam or a Stu. One of you guys unmute. Cam, unmute.
Starting point is 02:05:14 You got to unmute, Cam. Hello. One, two, fuck you. I thought it was Stu because I was getting the Stu crackle on the line. It's always Stu. It's always Stu. All right. And now I'll mute again.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Well, you're good. You don't have to mute if you don't want to. It's Stu. I know it's Stu. I knew it always Stu. All right. And now I'll mute again. Well, you're good. You don't have to mute if you don't want to. It's Stu. I know it's Stu. I knew it was Stu. And Stu, are you going to try to rejoin us here to wrap up? Stu's like Googling Virgil. You're still muted, dude.
Starting point is 02:05:36 Stuart? Stu Tang. Sorry. Yeah, I'm trying to find. Oh, yeah. Oh. So, Stu, something changed like three minutes ago. I'm trying to find... Oh, yeah. Oh. So, Stu, something changed like three minutes ago.
Starting point is 02:05:49 We're now... I can't hear anything, you guys. Yeah. It's not me breaking up. Yeah, well, it is you. You'll have to trust me on this. Hold on. Stu's gotten to the meat sauce there. Stu, you know I don't want to edit this,
Starting point is 02:06:02 so we got to fix it quick. Yeah, I am. I am I am hold on hold on alright while you work on that who's up now I think it's you Stu you want to say anything before I kick out this final jam from you yeah hold on a second here
Starting point is 02:06:17 is this better I'll let you know when it sucks up again right now it's okay what say something Stuart before I kick out your final jam I'll let you know when it sucks up again. Right now it's okay. What? Say something, Stuart, before I kick out your final jam. No, no, wait, wait. It's riveting.
Starting point is 02:06:36 Bob would not allow this on the Kingston Airwaves. Well, it wouldn't happen because it would be better. Can you hear me? Yeah, we hear you, buddy. I think he speaks. The story I was trying to tell is that, Kim, I came up with that idea. Sorry, what idea? That whole running for president. That whole gimmick.
Starting point is 02:06:51 That was my shtick. The whole thing. Sorry, who is that? Sherry Oteri? Cherie DeVille. Cherie DeVille. Stop the music! Stop the rock and roll!
Starting point is 02:07:02 Stu, you came up with that fucking idea? I did. And here's a picture from the press conference I the rock and roll. Stu, you came up with that fucking idea? I did. And here's a picture from the press conference I was trying to find. Wow. Studio DeVille 2020. Okay. And Virgil, do you see Virgil there?
Starting point is 02:07:16 That's fucking unbelievable. You're the guy who came up with that idea that just kind of came up. It was like me along with some other people, but yes, I'll take credit for it. Okay, you were in the room. Were you the one who updated the Wikipedia page with this information? No. Amazing. Oh, because Rosie and Gray TO updated.
Starting point is 02:07:31 He or she only updates Carol Pope and Northern Lights. Anyway, we're back in business here and I've got a song to play and I was giving Mike shit earlier, but I think Bob, he's a bit of a hip-hop head, as we can tell, right? And I got a lot of slack from Cam and Toronto Mike here. Slack. For one time, claiming that the song I'm about to play could be arguably the number one rap song ever. Okay. And I was definitely told. Jesus. do you not know how to turn off
Starting point is 02:08:08 the fucking ringer fucking amateur who are you talking to like that steward fucking stone your ass uh this song that i'm about to play if you were to ask me I would say this is one of the most important, influential, groundbreaking crossover hits in music, specifically hip three, and to the four Snoop Doggy Dogg and Dr. Dre is at the door Ready to make an entrance, so back on up Cause you know we're about to rip shit up Give me the microphone first so I can bust like a bubble Compton and Long Beach together, now you know you in trouble Ain't nothing but a G-Thang, baby
Starting point is 02:08:59 Two low-def niggas so we're crazy Death Row is the label that pays me Unfadable, so please don't try to fake this But I'm back to the lecture at hand Perfection is perfected, so I'ma let them understand From a young G's perspective And before me dig on a bitch, I have to find a contraceptive You never know, she could be earning her man and learning her man
Starting point is 02:09:21 And at the same time burning her man Now you know I ain't with that shit, Lieutenant Ain't no pussy good enough to get burned while I'm offended Outro Music This is another one of those songs that... Hold on. This is another one of those songs where kids in the suburbs, unless they're YouTube, know every word to this song. the suburbs unless they're you two know every word to this song it's a it is it is a song that is a completely different than all the other hip-hop that is in the genre but i think this is in line with that ice cube today was a good day i could also think of ghetto boys mine is playing tricks on me these sort of songs that are a little bit grittier that wouldn't typically be on pop format and yet here they are uh this song went to number
Starting point is 02:10:26 two on the billboard hot 100 which is pretty fucking crazy for a song like this and it really opened up the doors for a whole different style of hip-hop music this song is like the nirvana for that's for hip-hop for that time this is where Wu-Tang and Mobb Deep and all these other acts get the door kicked open because this song crossed over. I could be crazy in thinking that, but I do believe most rap that was top hip hop is sort of like Neapolitan or vanilla. And then this comes along and it's so different and edgy and the closest thing to like a Rakim record you could have for the time. Unbelievable. Still a sick song. What do you think?
Starting point is 02:11:13 Big fucking jam. Big fucking jam. This song was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's 500 songs that shaped rock and roll. How about that? There you go. How about that? Wow. How about that? How about that? How about that?
Starting point is 02:11:29 This is the song that really sort of propelled Snoop Dogg into the ecosystem. That's for sure. Snoop is like the Undertaker. He's been a top baby face for the last 30 years since this song came out. And he got Hanson last week. And he got Hanson last week.
Starting point is 02:11:43 This song was number one on the rap charts. I did say it was number two on the Hot 100. What is the song, Mike, that... Cockblocked it? Yeah, that cockblocked it. What year was this again? Remind me. 1992.
Starting point is 02:12:00 Give me a moment to remember the time. Remember the time! Oh. All right, this song actually peaked at number two on March the 20th, 1993. March 20th? Okay. All right, I'm going to just... Oh, wait, wait.
Starting point is 02:12:19 Can I guess? I'd rather you didn't. No, it's not EMF, you're unbelievable. Whoa. Not Jesus Jones right here, right now. Either Meatloaf or Aerosmith. It's neither of those either. Celine Dion.
Starting point is 02:12:33 If I call this song one of the greatest, most important hip-hop songs ever made, and it got to number two, a rap song that beat it on the chart and went to number one, that's got to count for something right if some song kept if another rap song in this genre kept this song from going to number one wouldn't that song be in consideration like one of the biggest songs of all time well not even consider just okay but you i know without doubt, the biggest song of all time. I just want to interject to say, I know what you're doing here.
Starting point is 02:13:09 Yeah. What if you did the other Mind Blow first, and then I... Sure. Because the jam here... Mind Blow? Sure, okay. We'll just play the sample first.
Starting point is 02:13:18 Okay, let's just start with this. Okay, so let me play this for us. Sure. I was about to Carol Pope my jeans. This is Leon Haywood's I Want to Do Something Freaky to Ya. You might recognize it. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:13:31 Spin it from the top, Mike, because it dropped out. Well, you have to just trust the recording got the whole thing. Okay. So play along with me. Oh, sick. So awesome.
Starting point is 02:13:50 Orgasmic modes. Well, I'll tell you what. Let me start again. Everyone be quiet. Oh, here we go. Of course, if you ever saw the NWA movie, they portray it like Dr. Dre's coming up with this on the piano with Snoop. But obviously, that's incorrect because here it is right here. Not quite.
Starting point is 02:14:06 So this is Leon Haywood. You said this is I want to do something freaky to you. This song was sampled by some other acts as well. The INC ride by Master Ace Incorporated. I know Bob will have a big fan of Master Ace. All over. Big time.
Starting point is 02:14:21 It's legendary guys. Legendary fucking song. But now if I go back to where I started, which was if I'm calling this Ain't Nothing But a G-Thing one of the most important songs in music, the song that kept it from gunning to number one
Starting point is 02:14:37 is almost... That's like Andre getting slammed by Hogan. Am I wrong, Cam? Wait, Stu, I see what you're doing here. Sorry. I'm just being a dick. Yes. Biggest song of all, Stu, I see what you're doing here. Sorry. I'm just being a dick. Okay, but I do see... Biggest song of all time. I do see what you're doing here. Without question. Stu, this song that you're referencing, which we won't name, but that, coincidentally,
Starting point is 02:14:55 that's my final jam tonight. And I know that. Cool your jets, Superman. I knew that it was your song, so I'm saying, although Ain't Nothin' But a G-Thing is the greatest song, in my opinion, the song that Mike's about to play went to number one and kept my song from getting there. Sorry, 93.
Starting point is 02:15:12 I'm going to play it now. But let's just say Toronto Mike is going to kick out a Toronto jam. What's going on, yo? I'm sick of time and five-oh running up on the block. You know what I'm saying? Yo, they came around looking for you the other day. We're in Boston. Kingston's hottest hits. We are on the drive home. This is some snow. Any informers, call us on the hotline.
Starting point is 02:15:38 14th College. Get a good tix. Informer. You know, say that I'm a snowman. I got lamb. I hit the post real well there, Bob. Say it again. I hit the post real good. I hit the post real good. I hit theam I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul.
Starting point is 02:15:45 I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul.
Starting point is 02:15:45 I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul.
Starting point is 02:15:45 I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul.
Starting point is 02:15:46 I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, Paul. I hit the pose real well there, a.k.a. So this is my final jam. It's Snow, a.k.a. Most important song in the history of rap. Cockblock and Dr. Dre,
Starting point is 02:16:33 nothing but a G-thang. This is Snow from Toronto. Darren O'Brien from Toronto. This is Informer. Of course, Tom Hanks' son does rap in Catwa now. It hasn't caught on quite like Snow. Are we sure this is a hip-hop song?
Starting point is 02:16:50 Of course it is. Why not? MC Shan literally has a whole rap song. I'm not saying it's not. You're saying because he's doing it like a little reggae for you? Yeah, that was a rapper. He's a Canadian rapper. Yeah, so this is from, again, like Stu mentioned, from 1992. This is from the great album 12 Inches of Snow
Starting point is 02:17:09 produced by MC Shan, of course, who has the rap verse. I doubt that. Not the MC Shan part. The 12 Inches part. He means millimeters, I think. Okay, so the rap verse, again, MC Shan.
Starting point is 02:17:25 And who wants to... I mean, there's no trivia here because Stu already told you this cock blocked Dr. Dre, which means this went all the way to number one on the Billboard Hot 100. And that makes this the first Toronto rap song ever to go to number one on the Billboard Hot 100. Drake would obliterate that record
Starting point is 02:17:46 30 years later. Drake has done it multiple times now. I was going to say, do we do we short version, like how did this happen? Like I'm trying to remember because I mean this Well, here's what happened. He held up in the East detention.
Starting point is 02:18:00 He wouldn't turn informer so he made this song about how he rat out his friends and therefore he's not a rat but i'm just okay thank you but now he like when this song breaks on much music and is starting to break everywhere snow is in jail like he is actually still in jail which is a selling point at the time yeah yeah yeah and it's funny that cam says is it rap because i believe it's rap, and there's an MC Shan verse, very rap. But it did win the Juno Award for Best Reggae Recording.
Starting point is 02:18:32 But I don't even know if we had a rap. Also an AVN Award for Biggest... 12 inches. So MC Shan's coming up in the mix. It's nice and low. But I will say that... Isn't he Bang Madonna or is that Vanilla Ice? Who got Hanson, by the way. That's Van and low, but I will say that... Is he Bang Madonna or is that Vanilla Ice? That's Vanilla Ice, by the way.
Starting point is 02:18:46 That's Vanilla Ice. How do we not play Ice Ice Baby, the guy that really opened the floodgates? He like invented the... Arguably, you could include Milli Vanilli. They rapped. Nah, that's New Jack Swing, I'd say. But they rapped.
Starting point is 02:18:57 I'm with Bob. I'm in love with you, girl, because you're on my mind. You're the one I think about most every time. And when you say they, you mean the one guy that they had in Germany? The German guy. Hell of a rapper. A member of Milli Vanilli,
Starting point is 02:19:10 much like a CNC Music Factory and Criss Cross, half of Milli Vanilli has passed away as well. Drew, what was the cutoff, guys? Your selections. What was the cutoff? Your year. 80 to 2000. To me, the sweet spot for this category,
Starting point is 02:19:25 if we're going to really make a thing of it, is like 1988 to 1994 is probably the year. If that's like the Yacht Rock sort of sweet spot. 88 to where? 88 to 94, I'd say, is the actual. Like once Coolio starts doing Gangster's Paradise, that's probably like the beginning of the end. Shout out to Stevie Wonder.
Starting point is 02:19:44 Okay, I will say that a lot of people might remember fondly fellow Canuck Jim Carrey and his fantastic parody of the song An Inliving Color which he called Imposter. That was a big deal in my circle at the time. Do you remember this?
Starting point is 02:19:59 I liked Jim Carrey's version of Vanilla Ice with Ice Ice Baby on Inliving Color. Alright, stop while I do up my laces. This happens every show. liked uh jim carrey's version of uh of vanilla ice ice ice maybe i'm in living color all right stop while i do up my laces this happens every show yo i gotta learn how to tie a bow bob i had that on vhs and i watched it multiple times you wore a board out so how do we do bob as a independent observer i had to ask about um i had to ask about to ask about what the cutoff was. If we're talking hip-hop, it's interesting.
Starting point is 02:20:33 If we're talking about what Yacht Rock is versus hip-hop and whatnot, there's an artist that I think got left because he came too late. He doesn't get any credit as a hip-hop artist, but as a huge pop artist and that's Nelly oh yeah
Starting point is 02:20:47 I would call that turn of the century hip-hop when was country grammar yeah so he just missed it but I feel the big Hanson person today is Vanilla Ice you know who else let's take a step back
Starting point is 02:21:04 and you know there's a lot of dudes we're hearing today Vanilla Ice. You know who else. Let's take a step back. There's a lot of dudes we're hearing today. No, Salt and Pepper. A few tracks. I think we need to make a master list of what qualifies in this genre. Give it grades. Did you guys notice
Starting point is 02:21:21 when I was doing my prep, some jams I thought were going to be top 20 weren't because they were too early. I feel like prior to 89 or whatever, a lot of these hip-hop jams just didn't crack the top 20 on the Billboard Hot 100. You know what I considered? LL Cool J, Mama Said Knock You Out.
Starting point is 02:21:38 That would have qualified. I think that would have. I probably still have that CD. Again, as much as sex packets was a big one uh mama said not give up the cd i have it too i have it too big effing deal jump around where did that end up on the billboard hot 100 uh jump around i i don't know it's definitely a top 10 song number three like we we covered okay shout out to talking hip hip-hop if we're talking hip-hop uh if we're talking hip-hop,
Starting point is 02:22:05 I think Fresh Prince should have been in someone. How about Nice and Smooth? I don't think Nice and Smooth hit the top 20. No, but still, great songs. How about Paperboy the Diddy? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:20 But I would say all those Euro trash hits that did have rapping elements. Is Captain Hollywood Project another night or whatever the fuck that was called. Like does that count? Oh, right. No, I don't think so. I think there's got to be, there's got to be like, there's primarily a hip hop. Well, hip hop.
Starting point is 02:22:36 And you remember like, so it's like who is KRS-One said one time, like rap is what we do. Hip hop is what we live. Right. And hip hop, like just because something has a rap in it doesn't make it a hip-hop song. I think hip-hop is technically the trifecta of rap, breakdancing, and culture.
Starting point is 02:23:00 Heavy D and the Boys. I saw Heavy D and the boys and Paula Abdul I saw Heavy D and the boys and Paula Abdul open for in 1989 at the brand new Skydome open for new kids on the block wow I was at that show
Starting point is 02:23:18 I was at that show huge I think of Cam aren't you a fan of the song that goes da dada-da-ba-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da KWS. I love you, too. KWS, right. KWS did the remake, but it's not KC and the Sunshine Band. Who did it in the 70s? Please don't go. It might be KC and the Sunshine Band. Mike, please don't go.
Starting point is 02:23:50 And that. I want to give some love to Brother Bill, who filled in for Stu Stone while Stu Stone was interviewing wrestlers throughout the USA. And thank you, Brother. Can't wait to get you back on the program. Stu. Season 3 of Dark Side of the Ring premieres May 6th
Starting point is 02:24:06 on Crave I'm going to check it out Stu it's great to have you back you're an OG shout out to Ice-T who did not qualify but you are an OG you are one of the originals in the Pandemic Friday universe and it's great to have you back
Starting point is 02:24:21 on home turf here pleasure to be back and Bob it was a real pleasure look forward to have you back on home turf here. Pleasure to be back. And Bob, it was a real pleasure. Look forward to joining you on your show. Yes, for sure. And moving to Kingston sometime. It was nice to meet both you and Stu, you and Cam. It was nice to actually meet you guys here.
Starting point is 02:24:37 It's the first time we've actually done anything together. It was a lot of fun. Likewise. We'll all be seeing each other in the neighborhood. Yeah, thank you for letting me. Now that we realize we all live like five minutes away from each other. Thank you for letting me be part of it. Thanks, we'll all be seeing each other in the neighborhood. Yeah. Thank you for letting me realize we all live like five minutes away from each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:24:46 Thank you for letting me be part of it. Thanks. So yeah. Thank you, Bob. We'll let you were awesome tonight and cam always a pleasure. Can't wait to have park beers with you again. Absolutely.
Starting point is 02:24:57 Good, good topics to credit words. Dude. And that, and that, and that brings us to the end of our 841st show you can follow me on twitter
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