Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Home Jams #TOAST: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1975

Episode Date: September 21, 2026

On this 1975th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 57th episode of TOAST, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss and Bob Willette as they kick out their favourite home jams.A version of this podcast without programm...atic ads is available to all Toronto Mike'd Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Toast. Just toast. I'm going to think about it, so. FOTMs, do you know what time it is? It's toast time. Toast. Featering Bob Wollett, Rob Cruz, Toronto Mike.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Yeah. Yeah. It's toast. Toast. Yeah. Just toast. Yeah. So.
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Starting point is 00:01:39 our electronics of the past. And Redley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning to Toronto Mike for this 57th episode of toast. It's Rob Proust. And Bob Willett. Rhymes of Gillette.
Starting point is 00:02:02 That's right. How are you two gentlemen doing today? I'm good. I'm good. It's a nice beautiful Monday. This is technically like the middle of my week now. This is my Wednesday, the way my week works with the radio station. Tell us about the,
Starting point is 00:02:17 schedule of Bob Willett shifts. Yeah. So basically, I am your weekend friend now. Saturdays and Sundays, you can hear me from noon to 6 p.m. Doing live radio here in Toronto at Indy 88. Saturday nights is the electric ballroom, the three-hour mix show that I do in which I have pretty much carte blanche to play whatever the hell I want, which is a privilege. I cannot tell you how much I appreciate who gets to choose their own music in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:02:45 And I mix it and put it all together. and that's on from 8 to 11. Then on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday nights, I'm 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. And Saturday and Sunday, you're 12 to 6? 12 to 6? Long day. It's a long shift.
Starting point is 00:02:55 It's not live though in the weekends. Yes, it is. 100% live. Is the electric ballroom live? No, the electric ballroom is not live. The electric ballroom I mix in my garage in my manshed and then I throw all the IDs and my talks over it and pre-mix it. And we, you know, I've done, so I don't know how long I've been doing it for,
Starting point is 00:03:12 but basically the way I do it is I record a 20, I record a 20, I record, 22 to 27 minute mixes and I've done now 80 of them. Wow. And we wrote and we repeat them. Sure. But, but you know, at different hours and stuff. But there's a minimum of two, sometimes as many as four new mixes every week, depending on how much
Starting point is 00:03:30 free time I've had. Wow. Yeah. And I'm just, and I've only, I've only repeated a handful of songs. That's the crazy. I've played over 500 titles. It's crazy. Amazing. I love it. I want to talk to Rob Pruse. Yeah. How about a guy who worked on Broadway?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah. but I had no idea. So I... Oh. This, of course, is a one-hit wonder. Big time. Like, yeah, like the tall pop man of America.
Starting point is 00:03:58 One hit pop wonder. Yeah. I mean, really, I would say his Broadway career sort of like... That's not a hit. No, it's not a hit. But it's in the canon of American musical theater,
Starting point is 00:04:07 a very influential musical called Spring Awakening. Yeah, that's where I'm going. Oh, you're okay. I said, I didn't know about his Broadway career, and that's why I'm bringing you into it. Got you got to, come on, catch up here. I'm here.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So, Duncan Sheik, absolutely in the world of pop music, is a one-hit wonder. This was a big jam, but I dare you to name a second Duncan Sheet songs. Unfortunate name, barely breathing. I know. It's just too easy. It was low-hanging fruit. So shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Duncan Sheik, gone too soon.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I never knew Duncan Sheik, but I was... I met him once. Well, okay, so I'll pass the baton to you, Mr. Proust, to talk about... meeting Duncan Sheik and about his Broadway chapter of his life which was very successful, I understand, but I'll say that I used to get these unreleased songs by Custom
Starting point is 00:04:58 whose real name is Dwayne LaVold. He died in his 50s. He's dead, okay? And he would often collaborate with Peter Sheik, brother of Duncan Sheik and once in a while a song would arrive in my inbox and it would be like, oh, Duncan Sheik is playing guitar on this song
Starting point is 00:05:14 or Duncan Sheik is doing this. That's cool. So I have all these. things. I knew Duncan Sheik was close with custom. I can't believe they both died in the 50s. Over to you, Rob Pruss. You are the expert on Broadway. How do you know
Starting point is 00:05:26 Duncan Sheik from the second chapter? I don't really know him. I just met him once at actually at an acupuncturist office. This guy, this acupuncturist on the Upper West Side named Dr. Yan, and another friend of mine had really recommended him and he was doing acupuncture out of his house, his offices was in his house.
Starting point is 00:05:43 And Duncan was just in the waiting room and I met him very briefly. That was my one in I think you violated his HIPAA rights. Yeah, I don't know. It's okay. Because he's dead. Yeah. But, you know, he did a musical in 2006 called Spring Awakening. That was an adaptation of an old German novel, and it was very controversial, and the musical
Starting point is 00:06:01 was a huge hit. Did you see it? I did see it. And there was a singer named Leah Michelle, who was from the TV show Glee. I know this name. She was one of the leads in the show. So it was interwoven with a lot of young, like, early 20s kind of performers at that time who have gone on to bigger and better things as well. And the music was very cool. And I was
Starting point is 00:06:21 always really, I thought it was really cool to know that he had come on to the Broadway scene, even being the quote unquote one hit wonder. It was just super cool to see him in this new world. And I, I mean, in the last week, I've seen so many posts from friends who have worked with him over the years. Like he was developing so many other musicals that he had been, he has actually a revival of Spring Awakening this fall off Broadway that's coming as well. But from all accounts that I've seen, like he was just the, the nicest guy and the most collaborative kind of a person to be
Starting point is 00:06:49 in a room with like, you know, working on new material. And this song is fantastic. Like, you know, we always talk about one hit wonders and like if this is your one hit, it lives on. And it's produced by Rupert Heine, who was quite an influential British producer who passed away a few years ago. Not Rupert Holmes. No, Rupert Heine. He produced The Fix.
Starting point is 00:07:05 He produced Tina Turner. What's Love Got to do with it? Oh, wow. Like lots of... I feel like we've talked about him. We probably have. But yeah. But rest and peace, Duncan Cheek. Shout out to Radley, You know her home. Shut out. Bob Willett,
Starting point is 00:07:17 are they playing barely breathing on Indy88? Yep. Yeah, that's in our rotation for sure in the gold rotation. Absolutely. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Not my favorite song in the world, but we killed it. Radio killed it. Maybe I liked it at one time. It's so indicative of 1996. To me, like when I hear it now. I think you're right.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's very matchbox 20. Yes. That very train. Very, very, very, I think it's in the... What about Tall Bachman? She's so high. She's so high.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I just think of these as, yeah. No, I don't like. I don't like. like, you're right. These are like mainstream, poppy, easy listening. And it's the, it's the mid to the end of the 90s.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Like those kind of, it's that production style. And they're good songs. It's like torn. Lisa, it's Natalie I'm Brulia. Not an Embrylias. Torre. 100%. That's all in that same.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Yeah. What else is it? There was a, you know what? Edwin Collins. Yes. Edwin. Never met a girl like you before. I just, I think Mixed 9999 here in Toronto killed all those songs.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Yes. We'll dedicate this to FOTM Bob Wagner. Friday is the good time to shine. Nightsy jane all survival. Okay, so I'm a little older than Bob, but like we kind of miss the whole Max Webster. Not a part of my life at all. Not at all, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:48 Not at all. But we're around for the Kim Mitchell. Yeah, patio lanterns. Sorry. Yeah. But what's interesting, as you get older and you realize, oh, these Max Webster songs you hear on Q&O7 or whatever, like every other Max Webster radio hit was a different singer.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Like you had, we talked about Let Go the Longer. Who is the singer? Terry Watkinson. He just passed away. Okay. Then you had this big jam, A Million Vacations. Do you know who's singing on this song?
Starting point is 00:09:14 I have no clue. Gary McCracken. Gary McCracken. The drummer. The drummer. Rest in peace. He just passed away as well. That's very the band like of them.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Yeah. Wow. Yeah. And then so it's like Kim Mitchell, the guy you know, because he has all the big fucking radio hits. He's a wild party, you know. He and he had to go for a soda.
Starting point is 00:09:32 That's right. He might as well. He might as well. He might as well because, you know, nobody suffers. I'm going to give you a beer in a moment so you can get into it. But it's just interesting to me that you got Terry Watkinson doing this big song, which I think is their best, let go the line. And then you got the drummer, Gary McCracken, doing this one, which is the one on,
Starting point is 00:09:48 what a feeling, the box set? Yeah, that's right. Okay. And then you get, once in a while, you get a song that actually Paradise Skies or something, and it's conventional. Well, you know, the cool thing is in the 70s, it was not, probably in the 60s as well. but, I mean, for me, like, being 13 years old listening to Max Webster, it wasn't uncommon for bands to have multiple vocalists.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Queen, all the singles and the hits were sung by Freddie Mercury, but they were all written by all four band members. But ridden's different. Written, no, no, no, but they all sang as well. On the albums, though, they didn't actually... Bob, name a Queen song is not... That's what I said. No, no, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:21 All I know is... What a terrible example. All I know is that when you go see the Rolling Stones and Keith starts singing, that's when you go get your beer. And the Edge, the Edge, sing some songs with you, too, as well. At numb. Not the hits. Oh, no, Lemon. Lemon.
Starting point is 00:10:32 But he's got a great voice, too. Like, their harmonies together. If I may, though, your examples of these bands of multiple, these singers suck. No, it's very, I think it's a Canadian. So, first of all, the Beatles is American, right? Sloan. British. Yeah, Sloan, you have the Guess Who, they both do songs.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You have, you have Blue Rodeo, they have two. Bare Naked Ladies, they have, too. There's a lot of Canadian bands. I feel like a higher amount of Canadian bands. Like American bands, like Cars. Yes. There's only one song, though. It's the biggest.
Starting point is 00:11:01 It's the biggest song. Similar to Max Webster, you're right. So all I'll say is, again, we're late to the party. But the album, which is, don't tell me everybody, it's called A Million Vacations. That's the name of the album. Title track. The three singles that you will still hear on Canadian classic rock radio are,
Starting point is 00:11:17 the first single was Let Go the Line. We mentioned that's from the late grade Terry Watkinson. The second single was that song, A Million Vacations, but we just lost them, Gary McCracken. And the third single was Paradise Skies. That was Kim Mitchell. So your three single. singles for that album are three different lead singers.
Starting point is 00:11:33 That's crazy. It just shows you the power of variety in music when you got a bunch of musicians working together and they all have equal playing fields that they get the opportunity to like sing. Well, that's interesting because this weekend is the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame of Ceremony at Massey Hall. Is this weekend? I'm actually going. I'm very lucky to, and I'm lucky enough to be going.
Starting point is 00:11:50 Do you know I'm going to? Are you? No, I didn't. Oh, cool. That's why I had on lover boys Paul Dean. Right. So, yeah. So, but the entire group of the tragically hip are being inducted.
Starting point is 00:12:01 because they said right from the very beginning that they would be, they would take equal credit. But when you watch how it really, how it worked, it was a very interesting thing, but none of the other guys sang. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Although Paul Langwell sang in my basement. Paul does backup. Yeah. Yeah. So, I want to just do a quick thing here and then we'll get back to catching up here.
Starting point is 00:12:22 But this was a big jam in 93. Do you know what song? Sorry. Do you like a jam? I always wonder if Rob Proust knows these popular You know the song. You've heard this before. Give it a moment.
Starting point is 00:12:35 It's in the same era as that Euro dance. It's a huge, massive dance. Get to the course. Don't bore us. Get to the chorus. Okay, it's coming. I played this on the electric ballroom. Did you?
Starting point is 00:12:47 Oh, yeah. Now there's enough. Okay, so while we wait for it, because I will turn it up for the chorus, the most recent episode of Between Two Fermenters, which is the Great Lakes Brewery podcast that records in this very basement, with the guy from Avling, Bob, you know Aveling. No, Aveling. It's in the East End. I don't know if the restaurant is still there in what you would call part of Old Town, where they've done a whole bunch of work next to the bottom of Bayview.
Starting point is 00:13:13 Hold on. It's coming. Not yet. Here comes. Okay. So I have a bunch of Aveling. I think that was it, actually. But that was a bunch of Aveling beers for you. These are amazing. The artwork's amazing on these. The heritage lager. I like these guys. They love their lagers. It's a classic. Classic Pilsners. They've got a buffalo. This one's got a dog on it. This one's got a... Is that a coyote?
Starting point is 00:13:38 I think that's a coyote. And then here's a loon on a Vienna logger. Do you want the Vienna logger? Sure. This is the first weekend. This was the first weekend of October Fest, too. Officially opened. I think I'll go with the classic Pilsner.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Okay, crack it open. That's got a blue jay on it. Vienna Lager. Thank you to great lakes for setting these guys up. So Bob, name this artist. Robin S, R-O-B-I-N-S. And what's the name of this song? Show me Love.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And Robin, the other Robin had a song called show. R-O-B-Y-N. I'm one step near you. You better let me cook, Bruce. No wonder I hate you. Well, this is good. We're on the same wavelength. You just, you're in charge.
Starting point is 00:14:19 I always been told that I've got too much to ride. 97. Also, and I think on much dance, 97 or 98. So I'm playing this because Bob. No. This is Robin. Yes. Show me love.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Completely different song than Robin S's big hit. Show Me Love. Yeah, but it released around the same time. Is it really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. It was weird. But completely different songs, different.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah. This is the, I mean, you know what? The other song's a great dance song. It's a great song to DJ with. This is a great pop tune. This was a great song. She came out. This was post pre-Britney.
Starting point is 00:14:54 This was pre-Britney. You know, but was this Max Martin production as well? I would think so. Yes. She was very, very pop. I would imagine Max Martin has some of the... Sounds like him. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I am. So, Bob, did you just see? Robin? I did just see Robin. Tell us about that. And then I feel like we're kind of acting like this is no big deal, that Robin S's biggest hit is Show Me Love and Robin, a couple of years later's, has a big hit with Show Me Love.
Starting point is 00:15:23 That's fucked up, man. It's completely It's, it's fucked up? I think, I don't know. Robin S has a hit with Show Me Love and a completely different show me love is by Robin later that same decade. Yeah. I guess it's fucked up, but it's, they're completely different songs. It's a cool coincidence. No, they're different. I think it's a coincidence.
Starting point is 00:15:39 But when Robin releases her, big hit. Why is she giving it the same name as the hit from Robin S called Show Me Love? Because I can't listen to the lyrics. But years earlier, you had to show me love by Robin S. There's going to be confusion. Let me ask you this. Did it work out? Not for Robin S because she didn't
Starting point is 00:15:55 have another song. Right. She fucked over Robin S. She stole the thunder on show me although I personally prefer Robin S's Show Me Love. And I didn't we do a toast episode with songs with the same title with different songs? Songonyms is what I like to call them. Not by artists Robin S's
Starting point is 00:16:11 than Robin. Yeah. Oh, that's a good coincidence. That's different. That's true. I do want to do, I have a whole idea
Starting point is 00:16:15 for a feature on the radio doing that. And I'm a set of hominims calling them songonyms. And, uh, and, uh, and just, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:24 again, like we did like stay alive. Alive. Oh, so many. I have like 50 different examples ready to go. Shine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah. So tell us. How is Robin? Oh my God. Phenomenal. I, I, um, I'm a huge fan of Robin.
Starting point is 00:16:35 R-O-B-Y-N. Um, she, she, she did this pop thing early in the mid, you know, late 90s and then, but then in the early 2000s, I guess it was, the Body Talk
Starting point is 00:16:46 trio. It's three EPs she put out, and that's one with Call Your Girlfriend, Dancing on my own. They're so good. And so this is the third, 2000s that was. Yeah. So this is the third time I've seen Robin now. I saw her at the Phoenix Concert Theater when those EPs came out. Must have been amazing. Oh, it was great. And then I saw her
Starting point is 00:17:04 on a very strange, I think it was a Virgin Fest, V-Fest, at the amphitheater with Keene and her. It was a weird lineup. It wasn't very, it didn't sell well. It was a weird show. It was interesting. But then this show came up and I said to my boss,
Starting point is 00:17:20 I said, I really would, I need to see this show. I know it's a Tuesday. But so I, I did most of my show. I recorded the last hour and I hopped on the go train and went and got, got there just as she went on stage.
Starting point is 00:17:30 And I found, I found, first of all, if you have floors now, remember you used to be able to get, so I was lucky enough to have floors. I also offer the FOTM world. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:17:40 An extra ticket because my friend of mine canceled on me last minute. So I was there by my, actually, I ended up watching the show mostly with Lana from the radio station. Lana Gay. Lana Gay. And but I don't, have you had, have you been on GA floors? They make you go in and you go right where the private, like where the boxes are in the basement. So I just saw Wu Tang with Andy Pandy and. But that was at RBC, right?
Starting point is 00:18:06 No, that. Yeah, that was at. B.C. So, where you, Scotia. Scotia. So you're, so you, but they make you go down. So you used to be, a different bank. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:13 But you go, it used to be, you would go to the 100s and you'd walk down the stairs onto the floor, right? You'd have a wristband. I've been a Raptor games on the court side. Yeah. Yeah. And now though, they, they like, they haul you down into the underground and you go in there and you can't get up.
Starting point is 00:18:28 You can only go into the base. There's only two little bars down there. Oh, weird. The basement is very, very strange. They lock you in. I was not, not a fan. I know. First World Problems.
Starting point is 00:18:37 But I did find, though, because of the way that people were going into it, being stage right, which is where I watched most of the show from, I was literally like three people back right there. The sight lines were amazing. That's amazing. Anyways. She had dancers and stuff as well? She did not have dancers. That's she performed on New Year's Eve, right? Like in Times Square. And that was what I actually loved there, too, that she didn't, she was very like stripped down. But just it was all about the music. Yeah. Are you in town tomorrow? Yeah. Yardax tomorrow night. Yard Act tomorrow night. Tomorrow night? Yeah. At Opera House. I probably can't go.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Tickets are still available. I'm doing this big gig on Friday. Anyways, Robin was amazing, and I'm going to Yardak tomorrow night, too, at the Opera House. God. And Bob, we saw. And we saw Matt Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I introduced Matt Good. And the Wild High, who were opening for him, which is John Harvey's band, the lead singer, former lead singer of Monster Truck. Oh, wow. He's a great dude, and his band is fun. But Matt Good. He likes Kid Rock. What's that?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Right? Monster Truck did the Kid Rock collaboration. Did they? I don't remember. Oh yeah, I guess they did. I talked to him about it. Yeah. Do you have John on? Yeah, John's a good guy. And Matt Good. Somebody, who was it that was traveling with Matt Good? Okay, so on that note, as I have Lover Boys, turn me loose, I'll get back to Lover Boy, but it was Ramey the Minks. What did you, Rob Proust, think of the Ramey the Minks return after 12 long years? Well, I didn't listen to the first episode, so I tuned in yesterday while I was driving.
Starting point is 00:20:01 and my first depression was she reminded me of like a Catherine O'Hara SCTV character like Joey Hetherton but without the sense of humor and she's not self-aware No Ramey the makes
Starting point is 00:20:16 which what made me think of like the perfect Catherine O'Hara sort of inspiration also did you ever watch the show Hacks I'm watching the show now she's like Kayla Kayla the assistant for who works for the agency
Starting point is 00:20:26 like there's a but without the sense of humor again she's a lot Yeah, you did very well with what you had to do. Yes. Bob, did you hear any of Ramey the Minx's return? I did because I thought, because she was brought up, because my friend Sarah, who was at Matt Good with us, she knew Ramey from back in the day because Sarah was an early blogger. She was rad mad and she's a friend. And I didn't, so she stopped.
Starting point is 00:20:51 She's not blogging anymore. But she was one of those Toronto famous say. I see. That's how she met. She's friends with Jeff Merrick. They met through the blogs and stuff. So anyways, and that's how Sarah's my friend It's through Jeff and who I worked with at AM 640,
Starting point is 00:21:05 blah, blah, blah. So we were talking about Ramey came up and I thought, I didn't realize that Mike had already been speaking to Ramey. Well, that's how she came up, I think. Yeah. Oh, yeah, maybe. I think I introduced Sarah saying that she was like an early blogger. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:23 And anyways, long story short, I did listen to it. Does she sit here or was just in there? Right there. Right here. I put it up when there's one guest, they go there. When she was doing the vapor, whatever, and you put that little clip on, oh, like, listening to it was fantastic, but watching your reaction. Well, if only, because she had moments earlier said, may I smoke weed in here? And I said, no, okay?
Starting point is 00:21:42 And then I was talking 9-11. We'll get back to this, but, and then I'm talking about 9-11 because she said she had PTSD from it. So I'm like, where were you? It took her 10 minutes to get to where she was. Right. And then I saw a cloud of smoke over here. To be fair, it was steam. I don't even understand how it works, except that I didn't think you should be doing that in my home
Starting point is 00:22:01 studio basement if I at least ask me. Yeah. Well, and you did say no already. I will give her, I'll give her only, I'll give her this, a modicum of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, of, because he asked if she could smoke, right? Not, could she vape. Yeah. Yeah. Because she didn't ask. Because then she went to explain. No, she just went ahead and the tape. She's different. Yeah. And it's, and the smell of vape does not stick around. It doesn't. It does not. I'm not. I'm not, I have friends who are very hard, like, like, who can tell you all about the cartridges and the things like she was trying to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah. So, but again, wow, she's a train wreck. That's all there is to it. Sorry. I'll say it. You're nodding there, Rob Pruss? Yeah. Yeah, look, it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:39 I'm sure. Maybe she's a very nice person. But it was a tough listen I've been told. Is that true? It was, I had seen people say it was a tough listen, so I was prepared for it to be tough. So it was not as tough for me because I've encountered people like her before as well. Yes. But the fact that you have to like continue a conversation and go, like, get information out.
Starting point is 00:22:59 Keep them on the tracks. Yeah, keep them on the tracks. And you did a great... Oh, yeah. That's what you do well, of course. Thank you. So it was entertaining, knowing that you were with her right here doing that, you know? And the video can be seen by everybody on my YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Hey, this song is by Loverboy. We mentioned the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame. Bob's going to be there. And you mentioned the hip are going in. Feist is going in. Barak of Wassin is going in. And the two main songwriters from Lover Boy are going in. Mike Reno, who said no to his Toronto Mike debut.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And then Paul Dean, who was like the consolation prize. So I don't know if you caught up to Paul Dean yet, but it's a pretty good lover boy deep dive. He comes out of a band called Street Heart. Oh, yeah. Were you in lover boy? No.
Starting point is 00:23:39 No. Oh, today's my anniversary of Honeymoon suite. 40 years ago today I did my first gig. Oh, congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. So this song, we all know, big hit. Love it.
Starting point is 00:23:50 I'm playing this on Friday night, actually. Are you? Where? So I'm doing this gig. Wait, you're playing Turn Me Loose on Friday night? Yeah. Where? How does that happen?
Starting point is 00:23:58 What is happening? Well, so I'm doing a gig with Dave Bidini for the West end Phoenix, right? The 10th anniversary, there's a big gig at the Palais Royal. And I'm in the house band with Dave Kerr and a couple other guys. Ian Good Times is the music director. And there's a bunch of different singers coming up to do all. It's a celebration of Canadian music. Ron Sexsmith is going to be there. Oh, wow. Dave, he's done this before, right? Like, he's done it every year. He's done it, yeah, he's done it like in a parking lot, like where
Starting point is 00:24:20 you, like an outdoor venue, different things. Yeah. But maybe because it's the 10th anniversary, he's got the Palis Royal. Is this a fundraiser for his West End Phoenix? For the newspaper. Yeah. Cool. And it's also just like a celebration. of music. And I'm so excited because I've never been a part of this. And Dave asked me if I would be in the house band. Amazing. So I'm like learning.
Starting point is 00:24:35 What are the odds you would be playing Turn Me Loose? Well, because I played that because you're about to find out why I'm playing that. Because it's a Canadian hit. But so the theme of the concert is Seasons in the Sun. So it's all Canadian hits. Oh, cool. Yep. So it's all Canadian hits and things.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Nice. I tried to get Jason Collette on the show to promote that, but he buffied me. Well, here I am. I'm promoting it. So here I am to say. So that's Lover Boys, Turn Me Loose. Big hit, right? One year later, this is a big Canadian rock.
Starting point is 00:25:00 What's it called? You're so funny. Your threads are good. So there is a saga deep dive. Shout out to Cousin Janow, who is my co-host for that episode. But Michael what? What's his name? Michael Sadler.
Starting point is 00:25:31 I should know that. You should know all the names of the FOTNs, but he was on Zoom. So Michael Sadler. So lover boys turn me loose everywhere, right? When Bob and I, similar vintage, but we're still very young. Yeah. Early 80s. One year later, this is everywhere.
Starting point is 00:25:44 To this day, including earlier this week, when I wrote the description for the Paul Dean episode, and I accidentally referred to him writing, On the Loose. Oh, no. This is On the Loose by Saga. One year after, Turn Me Loose by Loverboy.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And in my mind, the two songs are sort of mashed up. Sure. Right. Can you imagine that happening? It's just like Robin and... Well, the Robin one's insane. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Because it's Robin S. Robin and Robin. You guys are not excited enough about the Robin one. I love it. I just think it's cool. But these are both Canadian bands. Yeah. Canadian rock hits.
Starting point is 00:26:18 They're not the same song. I'm not delusional. But turn me loose and on the loose. Things were loose in the 80s, man. You know what used to be done? There was another, if you take that to another level, in the 60s and the 70s, people would record the same song in the same arrangement,
Starting point is 00:26:35 but release them in different countries around the world. So like when I was a little kid in Canada, there was a big song by Fleetwood Mac called Say You Love Me, and Shirley Icard sang it in Canada. It was released in Canada. It was going up the charts. Yeah, it was going up the charts. But in America and everywhere else, it was Fleetwood Mac.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And one day on CCOC, all of a sudden it swapped. And they got in... They played the Canadian way. They played the Fleetwood Mac version instead of Shrilly. So... Who wrote it? Flewittwood Mac, Christine McVee. So they...
Starting point is 00:27:00 This was commonplace back then. Right. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Okay. That's just a different level. So you know, is anyone here ever confused? Turn me loose with On the Loose.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I have. No. For sure. I think it'd be a certain age. What about the Pointer sisters? would jump Van Halen and the Pointer Sisters No, never confused those in my life I do all the time
Starting point is 00:27:17 But they're not These are two I'm just kidding I mix up Van Halen And the Pointer Sisters all the time You know what that cover That cover that you know what That version of Van Halen does
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'm so excited is great Yes I know that one too right And it was amazing Okay one more stupid Mike confusion thing Before we get serious And we're gonna set the table For this episode of toast With Rob Proust telling us why he chose the subject
Starting point is 00:27:42 Okay Okay. Oh, your mover was here since your last, right? I know. Speaking of home. Bradford How? That was a great episode. So let me dump out a saga.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Okay. Or is it saga? Who the fuck knows? Who the fuck cares? Okay. So here's another thing that happens. Here's a big jam, okay? Have you heard of this song, Rob Pru?
Starting point is 00:28:03 Yes. Okay, a big song. I could have played the Lost Lobos version because that's what was big when I was, uh... It's huge. Is this Richie? Richie Bowens. I love that movie. Yeah. Bob, his brother.
Starting point is 00:28:15 That was Louis Guzman, right? Richie! Great movie. I burned into my head. They used to show it on WUTV all the time. All the time. Do you know he's Filipino that actor? I did not.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Lou Diamond Phillips is Filipino. He's not Mexican. Oh, I thought he was indigenous. And he's really tall, too. Blue Diamond Phillips is? Yeah. I'm shocked by that. No Filipino is tall.
Starting point is 00:28:37 He is. Are you allowed to say that? Is he? I've licensed. My son is Filipino. There you go. There he's half Filipino. Isn't that Filipino?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Sure. Is Obama black? Kenya, right? He was born there. So, of course. That's right. All right. So there's La Bamba for you.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah, La Bamba, yeah. And here's a song I would always hear it. And at the beginning of this song, I always thought I was going to hear La Bamba. And I want to know if I'm the only one out to lunch on this one. Oh, I know it's going to be. And do you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Twist and shout. Wrong. Oh. It's the same intro, though. Okay. But this is, I always think I'm going to hear La Bamba, like Lost Local. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:13 That says, hold on, not yet. Forget this, right. Okay. All right. Yes. Absolutely. La la la la la Bamba.
Starting point is 00:29:25 100%. What song is this? Wait. The big song. Yeah, I recognize it. Is this Tom Petty? Nope. No.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Wait. Too bad that you. Nope. It's John Boat. John Flameder. Yeah. Who is John Foten? It's John Foyton.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And he got sued for copying himself, remember? Yeah. See, Sony tried to sue him. This is a huge hit. You still hear it every day. Oh, you do not hear this every day. No, you do not. You will not hear this every day?
Starting point is 00:30:06 You don't hear this on classic rock every day? No. You would not hear this in Toronto today. Except for here. Put me in coach. Wise Blot, can you find out if they played this song in Toronto? No way. Not today.
Starting point is 00:30:17 Give it to the end of the day. So this is the center field by John Fogarty. Yeah. It's the one he got sued for, I think. No. No? No. No, was it a different one?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Greasy jungle and run through the jungle? No, not she's a good, run through the jungle. Oh, that's the one he got sued for. Yeah, for copying himself. Okay, so. Yeah, I know that. I heard that. So yeah, so every time I hear John Fogarty's centerfield, I think I hear in the bumba.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I actually just have one quick, side note. Last Friday I DJed a corporate gig, the theme was Greece the movie. And I was told very strictly that for the first hour and a half, for as long as possible to stay within the theme. So, yeah. I was like, well, okay. People are dancing, you know, but once they start going, they start going. I forgot how short 50s and 60s songs are.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I was sweating like a son of a bitch. I like, I'm going to keep going. Oh, my God. Like a minute and a half, minute and a half, minute and a half. You think we had short attention spans now? Pop music, rock and roll, early rock and roll. Like, two minutes is an epic. But they were better.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like, because they were different. Yeah. Different. But like you could say so much in such a little amount of time. But the songs felt like you were going through a whole journey in like a two and a half minutes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Anyways, I just, I just, it was so much fun. I had a great time. It was fun, but I was, I literally was sweating. And I'm,
Starting point is 00:31:31 I can imagine being a DJ with 45s then? Yeah. My dad, you should like, nonstop, putta, patta, back and forth.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Anyways, it was a lot of fun. I just wanted to point that out. Okay, while we get Rob Proust introduced this subject, why he chose home jams, okay, I'm actually gonna play a song
Starting point is 00:31:45 that was, uh, Hansen. Oh, I almost picked it, but I decided to pick songs closer to home, okay? Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Pun intended. I have a theme throughout mine. Ah, Home Sweet Home. Not the crew. Great fucking home jam. Motley crew. And if I weren't at war of the United States of America, I might have picked this one. God, that 80s piano sound.
Starting point is 00:32:07 You know, I'm a dreamer, but my hearts have gone. Vince? Yeah. Great fucking song. Don't come at me. Who's playing piano? I don't know. Who would, like, who would have been playing?
Starting point is 00:32:28 It could have been, like, a session? Like, Mick, McMarr? Yeah, maybe they brought somebody. Yeah. And then they have, when they tour, they would have a track. Yeah. Maybe. Or a guy.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Or guy. They probably have a touring. Could have been Rob Pruse. No, would have been Rob Proust? Could have been, but no. You imagine? No. Rob, why did we, why are we kicking out home jams?
Starting point is 00:32:47 Um, last time, last episode, and it was sort of the end of the episode, and I was like, what the fuck? Okay, I got to pick something. And because I'm, Currently, I'm moving. In the process of moving right now. So Leia and I put our house on the market at the beginning of the summer,
Starting point is 00:33:01 and we sold it pretty quickly. And then we spent most of the summer. Is Leia right here? Yes, that's right. And we spent most of the summer trying to decide where we wanted to live. We knew we wanted to get out of the city, out of the Manhattan area.
Starting point is 00:33:13 My mother-in-law has lived upstate a couple hours north in Kingston, New York, which is a beautiful area. It's near Woodstock and all that stuff. So we spent like a month and a half, because Leia is also a licensed real estate agent now in New Jersey. New York. So we looked at like 60 houses.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Wow. It was like our job all summer long. Like cruising around upstate and like driving around looking for a place to live. So we finally settled on an area and the deal's gone through and moving next week. And so I was thinking about home because I, and I come home. Home is where the heart is. Home is where the heart is. And I come home once a month to Browlandton to see my family and I come to see you guys. And I love to be in my home region. And home is where, where what's important to you. Yeah. Yeah. What's important. Also important to. note, a house is not a home. I was going to say, do you guys have, do you have like an attachment?
Starting point is 00:33:59 My wife's family, they lived in the same house in the upper beaches for their whole lives. And when they sold the house, it was a very, very emotional thing. And I grew up in a shitty apartment in like Ontario housing. Yeah. So when I'm, I have, while I dream about, it's in my dreams all the time. I don't pine for it. I don't long for it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Do you have attachments to build the buildings you grew up in or lived in or anything like that? I definitely do. You do? I'm weirdly sentimental in some ways because one, When my parents moved, my parents sold the house that I grew up in. That's what I'm talking about. And we lived in the house for like 25 years. And then they sold the house to move to Germany and they lived in Germany.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But at the moment that they were selling the house, it was really traumatic for me in my late 20s. And I think because at that point, you'd have traveled the world. Well, that's the thing. I didn't, from like age 15 or 16, I wasn't home a lot. My sisters grew up in the house. And I was always coming home to the house. So when they were given up the house, that's when I was into the world of musical theater. And I was sort of starting to settle down again.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I was like, wait, you're leaving, you're getting rid of the house. So it was a transition. But what I learned at that time was that the memories will always be there. The building is not the attachment, but you need to just enjoy the time. The house is not home. The house is not home once again. So Leia and I have lived in this house currently for 14 years together. And Jacks grew up in this house. He's on the live stream, by the way.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm sure she is. He's listening to you right now. Yeah. So it's a weird, like, sad but exciting time. And I think we all go through this, but you have to allow yourself to take in the memories of the place you're in. and accept the moving on and the moving forward because life is nothing but change. And when you moved into the home that you're leaving now,
Starting point is 00:35:29 FOTM, Bradford, how? How did that happen? He was working. He explained it on Toronto Mike. Yeah, he was, he was, he had a friend who had a moving company, and he was in New York at the time, like, just doing, like, different gigs and things. And I think his friend would call him up and say,
Starting point is 00:35:40 hey, want to help me with this moving? So Bradford will hear this. Yeah, huge Toronto Mike fan. Yeah, I love Brad. And it's so funny that, I mean, wow. That was the one time I met him, and, like, we've been in touch since he knew he was going to
Starting point is 00:35:52 He's going to move you this time. No. No. I liked Bradford on the, I didn't listen to the episode, but yet. How dare you? I know, right? I'm sorry. But I liked him on much.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I thought he was, I thought he was good on much. I didn't, I didn't know him on much because I was already, you were 60 years old. He's in one of those, those different generations of much that I think, I think,
Starting point is 00:36:10 Jennifer Hallett era. Yeah, but they get, Hannah sung. They meet, yeah, they meet. George Strombobolopolis. Strombo, I think, was before him, though, wasn't he?
Starting point is 00:36:18 I think he was on the edge first. Yeah, obviously. He was on the edge. Okay. And the sock. Yeah, Ed the sock. I was actually talking about Frommage the other day
Starting point is 00:36:28 they had the sock thing. Ed's doing radio still. That was a, yes, he's on the rock. Yep. My oldest. And the Christopher Ward thing.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Yes, it was. That Ed took over. But there is a Chris Ward. So I'm going to just shout out everybody on the live stream right now, okay? And then we're going to get to Rob Pruse's first home jam. I want to say hello to Andy Pandy, who took me to see as a Stoostom's mother would say,
Starting point is 00:36:50 the Wu Tang Gang. they were great. Did you know Method Man was in the wire? Nope. It's in the liner notes, brother. Okay. Beckstar, all the way from Ottawa. Hello to Beckstar.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I got to skip you guys because you're in the room. Your wife, Mr. Bruce, who goes by Chachaw. Got that right? Where do you see the list? Chris Ward, I see, if they're logged in, if they're logged in, yeah. If they're logged in to comment, they get a green ball next to them. Okay. So Chris Ward.
Starting point is 00:37:21 who invented Frommage, but this is a different Chris Ward. Okay, so Jeremy Hopkin, who is the official, Jeremy, we got to follow up with JD regarding the Horseshoe Tavern recording, okay? Because I don't have a confirmation yet, and that was something we're working on. But, okay, there's a teaser. Canada Kev, so he would have asked, Mike, can I smoke in your basement? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:43 And I would have moved it to the backyard. What do you call it? What doche flute? That's what she called it. Dush flute. Yeah, we're fine. You can call douche flute. I don't care of it.
Starting point is 00:37:50 way. Leslie Taylor, who is the cousin of cousin Janow, who is on the Michael Sadler episode. Mike, who I know is Tobias Vaughan, Moose Grumpy. Always a pleasure to see a green ball next to Moose. It's a busy room this morning. Well, because it's toast. That's amazing. Hi, everybody.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Not my only Toronto mic recording today, by the way, but this is the way to begin the day. So, Rob, any words before we, you know what? So I gave you the Great Lakes beer. Yep. I want to give love to, I want to tell people. including you two, although I know Rob, you can't be there. But September 28 is one week from today.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And TMLX23 is happening at Jarvis and Queens Key at the GLB Brew Pub. And everybody is invited. What time does it start? 6 o'clock p.m. It's if it started at 5. It's 6 to 9. I can't. Well, 6 to 9 because they're not even open that day.
Starting point is 00:38:41 They're opening for TMLX 22. Wow. I can't remember why. That's something that's internal training or something. So 6 to 9 p.m. A week today that is September. 2026, come by. Everybody's invited.
Starting point is 00:38:54 We're going to have a great time. I want to give some love to Nick Aienis because we, free tickets to see Nick and Karen Stintz chat at the Old Mill on October 7th. They're available now. Go to TorontoMike.com because I wrote about it last night. You can see the link right there. Much love to Nick. And recyclemyelectronics.ca.
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Starting point is 00:39:29 Brad Jones has a brand new keychain. Have you guys got the new keychains yet? Yeah, got one. Yeah, yeah. If you want more for your collection, let me know. Much love to Life's Undertaking, a podcast from Ridley Funeral Home. We already shouted out between two fermenters
Starting point is 00:39:43 because you're all drinking the Avelin. How is your Aveling? It's not bad. It's not bad. It can't be as good as Great Lakes, but it's a... It's a nice alternative. They're friends of Great Lakes, is what I call that beer. F-O-G-L.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Right. Thank you. Rob, any words before we kick out your first home jam? Nope. My home jams were pretty much off the top of... You said nope, and then you said words. My home jams were pretty much off the top of my head. This was like the first song that came into my head.
Starting point is 00:40:09 Okay, looking forward to this. Bob, do you know this song? I've never heard this song in my life. Congratulations. Welcome to the world of FOTM, Ian Thomas. Oh. This was Ian's single from 1978 called I'm Coming Home. It was a fairly big hit in Canada.
Starting point is 00:41:54 I mean, not as big as painted ladies, of course. Or the runner. Or the runner. But for me on CKOC, 78 was like a peak time for me 12 years old. Oh, yeah. And whatever was in a band, whatever was on the radio. We were playing songs. And I was like hyper tuned into whatever had pianos and shit going on.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Right. Of course. I love the song. I realized when I listened to it this last week, I don't really know all the lyrics because you can't really understand them except for I'm coming home.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I've been away too long. I heard the word hotel. Yeah, but I just, I do believe. Even the lights are bright. I can hear that even the nights yeah,
Starting point is 00:42:26 for sure. But this line that he sings going into the course, I'm tired of being alone and getting stoned to pass the time. You were the perfect time. It hits you, your penis,
Starting point is 00:42:33 your prodigy. You're on CBC. We all know this. Go find his Geron of my debut. But kind of sappy, totally sappy, but 70s were all sad. I was going to say, is that 70s?
Starting point is 00:42:43 FM gold, right? They would cover, whatever. I mean, we have the generation that grew up listening to this music. We, I wouldn't call us sappy, but we were in, we were exposed to the widest range of music from, like, love songs. I fucking loved love songs since I was four years old. To the heaviest rock songs. Would you put this in the same category as like bread? Of course.
Starting point is 00:43:04 Yeah. Yeah, I think so. I don't think we had to define it all. No, no. Even Thomas just had this sound, right? It's painted ladies sounds. It's not. It's a little funkier.
Starting point is 00:43:12 It's fungier. It's better. It's better in your opinion. It's different. But here. So I was very little info in the song, but I did find Ian writing about this on Facebook. So I'd like to read to you what he wrote his memories of the song. He said the mid to late 70s involved endless touring with my band throughout Canada and parts of the U.S.
Starting point is 00:43:31 More often than not, I found myself stuck in some hotel room all the while missing my wife and young family terribly. Such was the sentiment behind the song coming home, which was released as a single and got decent radio airplay. Yeah. And I guess as I've grown up, also the coda, the piano coda at the end of Layla. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Totally, totally. Totally. So everything feeds off of each other. Yeah. But I guess, like, when I thought about this song through my life,
Starting point is 00:43:53 I would get that feeling when I was on the road. I was like, oh my God. I can see that. We're on the road so long. I can't wait to come home. I can see Rob driving back to New York from visiting toast or seeing his mom, and he's got this song blaring. The A track is in the A track is going. I can see you driving on. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. But he's got this song.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Even in the days when I was like in the bands, like with the spoons and like touring nonstop and could not wait. Yeah, a long time ago. Go back to my first episode. You'll hear it. But, but you couldn't wait to come back home. They just played in Oakville like last weekend.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I know. They replaced. Perfect. Yeah. You got that on speed dial. Always ready. Just in case. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Just in case it comes up that you were in the spoons. That's great. Okay. That's a great. That's a great start. And you have a, because you took my, uh, instruction. Yeah. To heart.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Yeah. You brought a bonus. Damn. Not for this. No, I got for the others. This one there was not really much else. Never mind. That's for the next one.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Yeah, yeah. But I was happy to find some words from Ian. I could talk about the song. See, that was deeper. That was deeper. He did the work. Yeah. And he's got a notepad.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I always keep notes now. I like writing them down. Thank you. Better late than never. I will say that Ian and Dave came on together on Toronto Mike. So there is an Ian Thomas episode of Toronto Mike. And there's an Ian and Dave Thomas in which they talk. And that is my favorite.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Like the dynamic, the brothers. And Ian is the funny one. they're so funny together. That happens a lot. You hear that with comedians saying, oh, my brother was a... Paul Myers and Mike Myers
Starting point is 00:45:18 are the same. Yeah, they'll say the same thing. Because Mike is the funny one? Yeah. Mike talks about, because Paul, I think is a little bit older, right, than Mike.
Starting point is 00:45:25 And he talks, Mike talks about his older brother, Paul, yeah, would like show him the music and the comedian. I thought Peter was the funny one. Well,
Starting point is 00:45:32 they're all fun of them. Peter Paul and Mary, any words of, from the great Bob Willett from Indy 88. I don't know what the great Bob Willett, but I will say, So here, when I thought about home jams,
Starting point is 00:45:44 I got kind of like, I actually thought a lot about this. And so what I did, I have a theme, basically, I'm starting with my first two jams, like my first two main jams are songs from places that I've been, that I felt like I could live there.
Starting point is 00:46:00 They could be my home. That's an interesting spin on it. I felt a connection. Because I didn't understand your, you sent the jams. Yeah, you didn't understand what I'm doing, eh?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Oh, that's cool. Yeah. So like these are the, and I've traveled a little, I've been lucky enough to try. I never left Ontario until I was 20. Wow.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And I never flew until I was 24. But since then, since then, I've been lucky enough to go to quite a few places. And there's a few places that I've gone that have felt like this could be my home. That's cool. And so that's what this first song is. This could be my home. In the street, they call it where. Camp where the thugs and come back.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Who bow now we didn't have a van back. It's in a your hand back. Your knapsack. It's in a backwack. Your girlfriend can't talk some boy Noe'n't know this They're only come around like tourists On the beach with a few clubs
Starting point is 00:46:53 So this Bedtime stories And pose like them name Chuck Norris And you know the real hard Quarkas and dolls are no buck to He tugs them with where them got to And voting twice to shot to Don't make them spot to
Starting point is 00:47:08 Unless you carry guns a lot too A beer tough thing come at you When Trench Town Man stop laugh And block off chop chop One them will unpop off and them start drop it With the pin file long And it's a pit rapid
Starting point is 00:47:23 One of many in a jeep on them cast a pit Some said them a play boy a play boy rabbit Get up like a bad a bit Son of a pow stuff if you're down to fit Rust of far eye stands alone One of many of Bob Marley's children This is Damian Marley Damian Marley
Starting point is 00:47:47 That's awesome This is from 2004 It's the year I got married and it happens to be the first time I ever visited Jamaica which we went on our honeymoon to Jamaica the song was massive in the on that island you couldn't go anywhere without hearing it
Starting point is 00:48:02 but I grew up at 10 Boltby Avenue which is a at 10 Bolteby Avenue which is an Ontario housing building as part Blake Boltby is what it's called behind Gerard Square in the east end of Toronto
Starting point is 00:48:18 and it was a pretty rough neighborhood. Lots of fires in the building, lots of, yeah, arson, like murders, stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:48:28 fun stuff. But my favorite memories of the building on my floor were four Jamaican families. Oh, wow. Two of my best friends growing up,
Starting point is 00:48:38 Brian Brewster was his age. I don't know where he is now. He was there with his mom, Sondra. Brewster's millions. And we used to, I had one, we would go by the elevator.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And so he's, and his mom, he was born, I think he was born here. His mom was born in Jamaica. There's another set of brothers, Mark and Andre, who were, their mom was there. They had a cat called Mr. T. And then Katie Ann's dad was a huge weed dealer. And he was right across all, but he blasted dance hall music. All the, he had Sirwin Vegas in his apartment. Like, that's how big it was.
Starting point is 00:49:10 That's really cool. And every Friday smelled like fish on my floor because it was Fish Friday. I grew up around Jamaican people. I knew what rice and peas were before I knew what plain rice was. That's amazing. So, you know, we would, and again, we didn't have a lot. I literally remember me and Brian. I had a set of boxing gloves, but I was left-handed.
Starting point is 00:49:29 He was right. We would box one-handed each. No way. Yeah, yeah, we would practice boxing on each other one-handed. Wow. So when I finally got, and I've been to Jamaica three times now. And while their politics regarding the gay community are very much against my personal. And it's not illegal to be gay there anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:46 It's still not a very easy place to be gay, but it's not illegal. It was illegal to be gay there at one point. It's no longer, but it's not a very safe place for gay people. Apart from that, which is a big thing to put aside, I have never felt more. That's a place where I, and the last time we went, we were not at a resort. We rented a place in Treasure Beach in St. Elizabeth Parish. And you just, it just felt right. Felt like home.
Starting point is 00:50:11 It felt like home. And then, yeah. So do you think that was related to the families you grew up with? 100%. 100%. You can play either of those now. These are the samples. This is in a cozy.
Starting point is 00:50:26 So this is the sample. Oh, it is. Yeah. This is from 95, 10 years earlier, 94. Oh, 84. Sorry, no. What's the name of the Damien Marley song? Welcome to Jamrock.
Starting point is 00:50:36 So this is the main, pretty much this is the song. It's Ziggy who does the Arthur theme song, okay? Yeah. Not Damien. Right. So I just, I want to, because I didn't really, I don't have any, I thought, I thought I would just, because I love, I love to hear how samples become part of music. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, me too.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And this guy, Jamaica, Jamaica, Jamaica, that's the name of this song. This is a brigadier Jerry from 1985. There's actually one more I didn't include, but I thought you'd like this. Do you know the, the horn? It's actually from a space sound library. Oh, no. Oh, no. Really?
Starting point is 00:51:26 Yeah, it's from a sound effect library from like 2000. Wow. Yeah, that was on vinyl. That's amazing. Yeah. I used to buy Radio Shack sound effect records. I love those things. So that's where that was from.
Starting point is 00:51:37 So this was, yeah. So, I mean, you know, obviously, reggae's very, got a very similar kind of like world to live in. But you basically have these two songs, which are more. roots sounding reggae, the Inakose one. Inakamose, sorry, and then the Brigadier Jerry, and then he takes it and does the dance... Did he do a murder she wrote? No, murder she wrote is
Starting point is 00:51:55 not Damian Marley. No, I meant Eni Camis. Inna Camusi. What does Angela Lansbury have to do with any of this? Murder, she wrote. It's Chakadimus. Nah, nah, nah. Shaka Demas did that. I don't know that. That was Shakaedimus.
Starting point is 00:52:11 You don't remember murder she wrote. It's actually ultimately it's about... It's actually about abortion in that song. It's an anti-abortion song. Like Brick by Ben Fulls Fy. Yeah, Brick is a story of abortion. Murder she wrote is actually anti-abortion. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:25 It's a... Oh, it's a pro-life. It's a pro-life song, essentially. Like Madonna, Poppy Don't Preach. I'm keeping my baby. That's her choice to keep her baby. That's not an anti-abortion song. You are correct.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Murder she wrote. Don't get me fired up over here. Okay. All right. All right. There we go. That was my... So, Rob.
Starting point is 00:52:41 So I'm glad I confused you with my selection. Well, Rob, what do you think of his? And again, you just, You just said home jams. We can interpret them as if we wish. I love this interpretation. This is an interesting interpretation. Yes, I love it because Bob is relating his home
Starting point is 00:52:52 and the home that he grew up with and the people he was with. And the music that is hard. Bob wants to live somewhere that's homophobic. That's the take, right? That's the take. Come on now. Are you my wife? You're going to take the most negative thing out of the...
Starting point is 00:53:06 That's right. No, listen, I was earlier this morning, I recorded the season finale of the running things of Donovan Bailey. Oh, wow. And then he said, we should record live from his golf tournament in Jamaica, which is in February. And I was thinking, now you're talking. There you go. Can we do toast there as well?
Starting point is 00:53:23 Yeah, I'm in. Freaking, all right. I love it. We'll see what I can do. Where is it in the country? I can't remember that part, but it is in the country of Jamaica in February, the Donovan Bailey Golf Tournament. I have some contacts down there. Wow.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Okay. Okay. You guys ready for my first time? So I mentioned I didn't kick out Motley crew. I thought it was maybe too obvious. and I do love that song, Home Sweet Home. I unironically love Home Sweet Home by Motley Crew. Come at me.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I don't give a fuck. But. You're really wanting people to come out. See, he likes to fight. I think he wanted to fight Ray. He wanted to argue with Ramey, but he didn't. No, I didn't argue. I was nice to Ramey.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Yeah, you were. Thank you. Because I can appreciate what she's dealing with. Yeah, I know. I have a mild form of all that. But I can't imagine having what's going on there. So I was nice to her. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:12 But I would like to kick me. out some songs that are closer to home if that's okay you see pun intended home home home here we go i've been down to georgia i've seen the streets in the west i've driven down the 90 hell i've seen america's best i've been through the rockies I've seen saskatoon I've driven down the highway one just hoping that I'd see you soon because I'm coming home
Starting point is 00:55:11 I'm coming home I'm coming home This of course is City and Color Dallas Green I see Dallas Green See Rob Dallas is a city Yeah and green is a color
Starting point is 00:55:49 Green is a color City and color I did not know that Did you just make that up I'm not smart enough He was named after the baseball player. Dallas Green was a baseball coach, Dallas Green. And he was named after that athlete.
Starting point is 00:56:05 I like that band even better now. He's been sitting in color. So, of course, this is also the guitarist and singer for this band. I feel like I'm educating Rob Proust because Bob knows all this. But Alexis on fire. Yeah. Okay. He's the non-screaming guy in Alexis on fire.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I did not know that. That's correct. This is some wild and wacky stuff. Okay, so. Wild and wacky. album. There's some wild, wild stuff right there. Yes. We talked about Carson, earlier.
Starting point is 00:56:30 We did. Okay. You guys, one does. Okay. So, the album is called Sometimes. This is the debut solo effort by City and Color. Wow. This album wins the alternative album of the year award at the 2007 June award.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Wow. It's a good album. Is this song called I'm Coming Home? Yeah. The song's called Coming Home. Just like Ian Thomas. See, we both played this. same song? There you go. Right. And more
Starting point is 00:56:57 connections to Bob in the radio world, which we all know, but I'm going to tell you like you don't know, is that this is a Dine Alone Records release, of course, and that was founded by Joel Carrier, am I saying it right? I don't know if he fronches it up or whatever, but Joel is married to one-time Indy-8 Morning Show host, current Chum Morning Show host on 104.5,
Starting point is 00:57:20 F-O-TM, Josie Die. Yep. We used to want a house with the a four mentioned Jeff Merrick. The A4 mentioned Jeff Merrick, who is deep into that blogging world of the early 2000s. There you go. This is a great song. It's a great song. There's no drums.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I just, as we're listening to it. It's really nice. There's no drums. It's literally, I think it's just him. I think he's playing a 12 string almost, it sounds like. And then another guitar in the background. This is a song where whenever it came on. It's a great song.
Starting point is 00:57:47 It's a great song. I guess it would be 102.1. It would have been the edge at the time. It would have been the edge at the time. I fucking loved it. It's a great song. It's a cool song. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:57:55 It really is. You know, he's a self-described curmudgeon. Yeah. Dallas Green. Yeah, Dallas Green. But he's got, he's a prick with a heart of gold.
Starting point is 00:58:04 It's a beautiful, beautiful. I've met him. He's always been very kind. Yeah. But I've heard, he admits, lots of, speaking of that early 2000s much music VJ is.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Yeah. Would have been around that year. Yeah. Right. And Leah Miller is married to Dallas Green. That's where I'm going. Leah Miller,
Starting point is 00:58:24 uh, I was at because Dallas Green sang at Josie's wedding. And I asked Bradford how about working with Leah Miller and learned he left just before she got there you go. It's all connected. Everything's connected. Okay, more connections. Okay, so, Dina Loan Records. Okay, they have subsidiary labels.
Starting point is 00:58:47 One is called New Damage Records. There is a band you might, I don't think Rob knows his band, but Bob would know the band. Cancer bats. Yeah. I heard the name. You know cancer bats? I've heard the name, but I don't know what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:58:59 That's a name that you would remember if you heard it. Yeah. Mike Barber, who lives in New Brunswick now, so I'm actually in the market for a new one. He's got a band called Phantom Lung that was produced by a member of Cancer Bats. Cancer Bats,
Starting point is 00:59:12 most known for a cover of the Beastie Boys. I think they do sabotage, I think is there, I think that's their big, big song. We would have played that. It's post me, but they would have been played,
Starting point is 00:59:24 maybe when DJ Craig G was doing the live to airs, I feel like they would have been played. FOTM, Craig G, absolutely. So Cancer Bats had a song called N pneumonia Hawk, and there's a video for N pneumonia Hawk. Cancer Bats, pneumonia, huh? I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:59:37 These guys are all about the sick pigeon. So pneumonia. Pigeon. Sniffly nose dog. An indigenous word for pigeon is Mimico. Really? Yeah. Oh, very good.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Nomania hawk, at the end of this video for Nomewock, which I just watched the other day, you've got the band members of Cancer Bats and you mentioned yelling with Alexis on fire that's George Petit. Okay, George and the producer Greg B. Lowe, they all sing a song at the end of the Cancer Bats video. I'm just going to play that excerpt for you right now.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Oh, fast, that wasn't. You know I've been to Nebraska. What the? I didn't take any pictures. They're making fun of the Dallas. Going home. There you go. So that's them having fun with...
Starting point is 01:00:54 So wait, who is that? That's the cancer bats. There is one of the guys from Alexis on fire. Oh, that's Bob playing them. Sorry. Cancer bats. I was going to play the Cancer Bats. It's a busy boy.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Bice on cover. One quick thing, this reminded me, hearing that end of pneumonia hawk when they break into coming home and they call it going home, they're having fun with it. But it reminded me, I just had on the program, but you can't hear it yet because I've been told Bernie Finkelstein said, Mike, you can't drop this until mid-October.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And I'm like, whatever you want, Mr. Bernie. Okay. I chatted with Bruce Colburn last week. Amazing. Pause for applause. Okay. That's my note. Say pause.
Starting point is 01:01:30 Were you happy with the chat? Was it good? It was good, but he's in San Francisco. He's 80. And there were a couple of moments where his internet sucked. And I didn't know what to do because he's, you know, I'm lucky to get this time with him and I should work around it. Okay, fine. So that part I didn't love.
Starting point is 01:01:43 but you guys are going to enjoy it. But I realized I had a note from Manfred from Elephants and Stars and he was telling me, Mike, have you heard the new Propagondi album? And I'm like, no, I haven't? He goes, go listen to At Peace. So I listen to At Peace.
Starting point is 01:01:58 This is at, the last verse of At Peace is this. You ready? Ready. Some days I'm scared of God. Having comes without some kind of fight. Nice. Got a kick at the darkness. Gotta kick at the darkness
Starting point is 01:02:19 to the bleeds stay. That's cool. That's cool. So I played that for Bruce. Did you really? That was really cool. If Bruce Coburn is 80, how old's Bernie? Oh, well, Bernie's had a rough year.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah. I interviewed with Bernie once. Did I ever tell you that? For True North? Yeah. I think I told you that. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:44 I interviewed, I was on a, I got interviews with arts and crafts and with True North. Never got the gig. Wow. But to be their promo rep. Yeah. Okay. So the propaganda, again, in mid-October, you'll hear me and Bruce talk
Starting point is 01:02:57 about that. Before his gig. Right? But that I fucking love that interloping or whatever that term is when they bring in some Yeah. Intertropos in interpolation or something.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Yeah, interpolation. Do you want to quickly hear the cancer bats sabotage? Just quickly. You're open. I thought that was on the thing. I thought he was true.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I mean, how do you make a heavy song heavier? Oh yeah. Pretty good, right? So the connection, now you know, though, the cancer bats connection, of course, to a city in color
Starting point is 01:03:49 is Dinole Records. So there you go. Yeah, that's super cool. Oh, oh, I had this, did I load it up? Maybe not. Give me a second here. Because I was thinking about how you have a guy in Alexis on fire, a very fucking heavy band.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Heavy band. Screamo. Right. They're more than heavy. They're Screamo. From St. Catharines. Okay. And then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 01:04:06 that you heard coming home and also save your scissors was a big hit on that album. Huge. Right. And you did the one with Gordownie as well. Right, right, right. Sleeping sickness, which is beautiful. And you're like, oh, where does that come from? And then you realize there's a gateway drug,
Starting point is 01:04:18 but I might not have loaded it up. Give me a second here, gentlemen. Oh, my God, I don't have it here. Okay, I'm going to go to YouTube and play this. Okay, give me a second here. This is a... Are you just going to play it? Because you tell...
Starting point is 01:04:29 I have Spotify up right here. Well, I'm going to YouTube quickly. You son of a bitch, hold on here. Hold on here. I hope this works out because I wanted to play what I think is the gateway to city and color from Alexis on fire because it was a couple years earlier. Dilly, beloved.
Starting point is 01:04:46 We are gathered here today. We're settled now. Electrical life. I think this is how you get from Alexis on fire to city in color. This song right here, which I fucking love. Oh, yeah, I recognize this. The days I've been known to. We're going to have these things.
Starting point is 01:05:41 No. No? We're going to get to the chorus. any moment here. We've diverted good here. This is a good one. But it's all related to my jam. It's a great song.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I'm going somewhere. Do you two gentlemen, I think Bob will and Rob won't, but do you remember the never-ending white lights project? This is the Grace, which was all over 102.1. Big time. This is a city in color.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Who's doing the vocals on that? Dallas Green. Dallas Green is the vocals. Yes, that's right. So never-ending white lights. Two years before his solo debut, which sounds like coming home, He does this with never-ending white lights.
Starting point is 01:07:04 And it's like, oh, that guy from Alexis on fire can make music like this. It's cool. There's somebody else involved with that, too. Well, this is a project by a guy whose name I have to Google, but he was the producer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't sing on it. He doesn't sing on always. Do you remember the song?
Starting point is 01:07:21 Always. Always. No, not that way. I don't remember it. Well, not that way, but you'll Google it'll remember. Okay, so I will pass the baton back to Rob Pruse. But yeah, I don't think you got a gateway from like Lexus on fire to city in color via never ending white light. It's nice to make those connections musically in that way too for sure.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Thanks, Rob. I like you again. Oh, wow. For a little while anyway. I wait till the hate comes my way. Yeah. My way. Fuck you.
Starting point is 01:07:48 My way or the highway. Oh. Fred Durst is that a home jam? That's a Fred Durst. That's right. Oh, yeah. Fred Durst. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:55 So I will elegantly dump out of this because this is YouTube. Okay. pleased to be telling me any words about your second jam or I'll prove. This was the second song that came into my head when I thought of the home jams. Do you always pick songs just the first things that pop in? That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I try to go. That's the best way, though. I think so. Sometimes you can like sit with it for a bit. Well, sure. A whole month. Yeah, yeah. No, I do sit with it as well,
Starting point is 01:08:19 but then sometimes I come back and realize that my first choices were the ones. I hear that with actors too. Actors would do 30 takes to something and then you go back to the first. And actually, you hear the same thing with people in the studio. Yes, of course.
Starting point is 01:08:29 Studio will be like, oh, we're going to do this again. and you end up going back to the first one. I can't tell you when I was a kid in the studio making records. And through my whole life, what I've always learned is to hit record right at the beginning. Because if I'm just fucking around and I don't know what I'm doing on the keyboard and I'm just like learning a song,
Starting point is 01:08:44 I might play something that's the coolest thing ever and I won't have a clue what I did. And I'll be like, I don't know what it was. Sorry. But so I always say, just hit record and I'm going to mess around. And then that's what it is. That's cool. So anyways,
Starting point is 01:08:54 this song was my second in my top two. Home songs can be sappy I'm coming home Coming home If these old walls If these old walls Could speak Things that they remember well
Starting point is 01:09:28 Parties and people Raising them A couple in love Have been weak to weak rooms full of laughter if these old walls could speak at hallowed house oh if a hallowed house could talk
Starting point is 01:09:55 these would have a tidity tell the sun going down and dinner bell children play This would hide and seek from floor to raft up. If these old are all these walls could speed. They would tell you that I'm sorry. It would tell you that it's only. And I have a little bit of a stubble streak as I do, darling.
Starting point is 01:10:44 If these walls could speak. This is Jimmy Webb. F-O-T-M, Fred Mullen produced this album. Right. Ten Easy Pieces. Right. And this song, the first time I heard it actually was by Amy Grant recorded it in 1988. And I'll never forget, a friend of mine, a musician up in Kitchener, we were writing a song together.
Starting point is 01:11:08 And he's like, listen to this song. And just the lyrics, like, Jimmy, of course, he's such a good storyteller. In the, like, he conveys, like, a feeling. You don't sometimes even know what he's talking about. But the words he pieces together just give you a feeling. It's got a John Pryne feel. Yeah, totally. Like, I hear John Prine.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Well, and Jimmy Webb is known for this kind of exposition as well. But, like, it's that idea of like, it's probably like an old thing that people say, like, man, if these walls could talk. Sure, of course. One of those kind of things, right? And I thought, holy shit, it's true. Like, we spend our lives in homes. And you live and you have these memories of the things you've done and the stories you can tell. And I just think this song conveys it so nicely.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And guess who's singing background vocals in the song? Mark Cohn. Is that Mark Cohen? Uh-huh. Your favorite. My favorite. M. I am tonight.
Starting point is 01:11:59 Love it. Produced by Fred. Yeah. Jimmy Webb. That was, see, Ty the Christmas guy thinks it was the AI slop that made me hate you, but it was that moment right. When he, it's when you didn't understand,
Starting point is 01:12:11 didn't get the genius of walking in Memphis. It's hateworthy. How dare you? I listen to walking in Memphis on the reg still. Do you seriously? Absolutely. It's on, I have a few playlists that.
Starting point is 01:12:23 If I'm in a mood, if I'm in, like, I have some, it's like comfort food. Wow. I have a comfortable song. I have comfort food songs that make me feel better. Oh my God. My whole life is comfort food songs. Like that make me feel better. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. DJ Dream Doctor is on the live stream and says that his two favorite home songs are Take Me Home by Phil Collins. Oh, that's a good one. Oh, yeah. And Home Sweet Home by Motley Crew, which we discussed earlier in the episode. And Jeremy Hopkins is wondering, will anyone pick Feels Like Home by FOTM Chantelle? You know what?
Starting point is 01:12:54 That was on my list, actually. And I, I hansed it for myself because that was definitely one of my favorite songs. Bonnie Raid, saying it originally, it's written by Randy Newman. Didn't we talk about, who wrote, let's give them something to talk about Shirley Eckhart? Shirley Eichard did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of Bonnie Raid. And we talked about her earlier in this episode.
Starting point is 01:13:11 We sure did. It's all connected. Everything's connected, man. But this song feels like home. We're all connected. Bonnie Wright, so Randy Newman wrote the song for, he was working on a musical called Faust, and it was on the soundtrack. and then Bonnie Raids singing and it was on the film
Starting point is 01:13:24 it was on the soundtrack for the John Travolta film Michael I remember that you're an angel but not a saint Yes Yeah yeah terrible movie by the way Oh horrible my son of the theater After Paul fiction he did a much of stuff
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yes And that's one of his shitty ones But the soundtrack was great And then Chantelle did a version of the song as well But we answered it Okay and also I believe One of the biggest hits
Starting point is 01:13:45 John Pry never had Was the fact that What singer were we just talking about Who's saying Bonnie Rayette covered a John Prime song and had a big hit. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:13:56 And that was like the biggest hit of John Bryant's career was when Bonnie Rayett covered his music. But, okay. So, it's all connected. Do you want your bonus jam? My bonus jam, so I was looking for research on this song and I couldn't find much
Starting point is 01:14:09 other than like five or six people have recorded the song and done versions of it. And we know you don't like that. You don't like covers. No, I didn't want to just play other versions. So this very particular. This came up. And I would like to think that maybe this inspired Jimmy Webb.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Are you vaping, Bob? Yeah, me. Do I see smoke? So, yeah, just play this. It's just dumb. It's a little short thing. And I can tell you a tale to make your blood run cold. And your heart cry out in anguish.
Starting point is 01:14:39 Darkness falls across the... Is that the Hercules? If these walls could speak. If these walls could speak. Oh, look. What stories they would tell? It's cool. So it was a short-lived TV series in 1967,
Starting point is 01:15:23 hosted by Vincent Price called If These Walls Could Speak, what stories could they tell? I like it because it ties back to the hilarious House of Brighton. Of course. Which you usually wear that shirt. And I like to think that maybe Jimmy Webb saw that, because literally his lyrics. Well, Fred Mullen would have seen that.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah. Well, Jimmy had already written the song. but I like to think that maybe Jimmy thought of this Vincent Price thing when did Jimmy Webb write that song in the early 80s? But this show's, this 67.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Jimmy was already writing the song back then. But 67 is before the early 80s. It's like you're good at math. 20 years, but it's before the 90s as well. But you just said that this, okay, because you made it sound like Jimmy wrote the song before. No, no, no, no. No, no.
Starting point is 01:16:00 No, he said, rewind the tape, everybody. He's saying he may have been inspired by that TV show. I always thought the thing was if these walls could talk. Yeah. Right. They made a movie called If these walls were gone. So in this case,
Starting point is 01:16:11 but there was a TV show called If These Walls could speak and what stories they could tell. And that particular song literally has those two lines in it. Exactly. So I'm going to say that they're I'm going to ask Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Not necessarily consciously. No, no. But it was in his subconscious. Because as a songwriter, you're always grasping from little snippets of things as inspiration. So I like to think that Jimmy
Starting point is 01:16:30 was inspired. And let's just say the, Vincent Price, of course, on Thriller. Yes. And then, but what's his name?
Starting point is 01:16:41 Michael Jackson. No, the guy who does the best Vincent Price impression from SNL. Oh. Oh, my God, I can't believe. Not Jim Brewer, Jim Brewers, isn't it? Anyways. The castle walls are cooling. Yeah, I love.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Remember the 80s? He's like our spirit animal. That goat, that Brewer would do. Remember the 80s? That's like our spirit animal on toes. Remember the 80s? Jim Brewer. I want to just to shed with the song,
Starting point is 01:17:07 of Bonnie Ray had a hit with Angel from Montgomery. Oh, that is a beautiful John Prine song. He wrote it in 1971 for his self-titled debut album. And then he re-recorded it. I mean, it's from the perspective of an older middle-aged, okay, oh, I'm looking at this from my Google results, but it's from Gemini. Do I trust it?
Starting point is 01:17:27 Who dares? Who dares? Sorry, Bill Hader. Oh, Bill Hader. Bill Hader does an amazing Vincent Price impression. Okay. Sorry. Bill Hater, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:17:36 from Barry. Shout up to Henry Winkler, who was the Fonz, and it was the anniversary of the jumping the shark. Was it really? Oh, my God. That's funny. Lots going on here. Bobby, you ready for your second?
Starting point is 01:17:48 Here we go. Another place that feels like home. Nice. In the Lander born and bread and I'll be one till I die. I'm proud to be an islander, and here's the reason why. I'm free as the wind and the waves that's washed the sand. There's no place I would rather be than here in Newfoundland. I spent some time in New York State and nearly lost my mind.
Starting point is 01:18:20 The city life's too fast for me. Nobody had the time. Cement and steel and flashy lights was all that I could see. It may be good for New York State, but it's not damn good for me. I'm a Newfoundlander born and bread and I'll be one till I die. I'd row to be an islander and here's the reason why. I'm free as a wind and the ways that was... the sand. There's no place I would rather be than here in Newfoundland.
Starting point is 01:18:49 So that is the Islander by a gentleman by the name of Bruce Moss. And it was done in 1982. He originally wrote this. Can you play the other version first? So I would say it's got a, remember when the Heave Away song came out with the hockey tournament?
Starting point is 01:19:07 These guys, there's a band called Shanning Ginnock and a band called The Navigators. This sounds more like what you expect it to sound like this. It sounds like come from way. Yes. 100%. And in fact, I think it's included in this.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Great Big C. Might as well be. Navigators are led by a guy named Fred Jurgensen. And my buddy, Larry Foley, who is in a band called The Punters, who is also, they're like a punk trad band, traditional band. They were big in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:19:37 They toured the whole country, opened for Spirit of the West, that kind of stuff. These are these are people I've got to meet. since I've gone over to Newfoundland. My grandfather was born in Bonn Bay. Yeah. So I am a quarter Newfoundlander.
Starting point is 01:19:51 Wow. And I've been back three times now. And there is no place, like, more than Toronto I've ever felt. I feel like, look, I literally have, like, goosebumps. Yeah. I have such a connection with as soon as I got off the plane there. What do they think of the gays in Newfoundland? They like their gaze, eh?
Starting point is 01:20:08 They don't care. They don't care about it. Whatever, you just do whatever you want in your bedroom, eh? That's what Trudeau said, Erie. So he is like, stay out of there. Stay out of the bedroom. No, it's, I've been to St. John. I've been all over the Avalon Peninsula.
Starting point is 01:20:22 I haven't been to where my grandfather's from over near Stephenville. I will get there. So here's the interesting part. So this is what, so that's the navigator. And these guys, it's one of the few places in North America, you can make a living as a, as a musician. Because all of these pubs on George Street and all around St. Johns, they have live music all the time.
Starting point is 01:20:42 And it's just a guy in a guitar often. And you go and you. You play a four-hour set. You do it. And you get a couple hundred bucks and you get the tip jar. And I'm not getting, there are, you could do, if you're a musician, you could do six, three gigs a night. It's like being in Dublin, right?
Starting point is 01:20:56 Yeah, it's all the places. Or, yeah, or Nashville. Nashville, maybe Memphis, New Orleans. And that's where city and color lives. There you go. Lee Miller. Nashville, Memphis, New Orleans. And I don't think you can even do it in New York.
Starting point is 01:21:08 I don't think you do it in Toronto. I don't think you could, but St. John's, you can. That's so cool. So here's the thing, though, a few years ago. what's his name? Bruce Moss, who wrote the song, was approached by the Simpsons to put it in one of their episodes.
Starting point is 01:21:25 And they offered him 20K to put it to put us just a part of it. Of course he was interested until he saw the script. And do you want to hear how it ended up not using it? I have a clip of the end up And he said, okay, you're open here. So he said he didn't want to.
Starting point is 01:21:42 Country does it all. Tarsans. Strip mining, Mountie-Mocking, geese-goosing, French-fried gravying. Okay, but I'm sure you treat all people's equally. Except the Quebec Cueblo. And the Nuffis. Stupid Newfies.
Starting point is 01:21:59 I'm a Newfee! Wee! And he's now beating a seal. That's Ralph. That's Ralph. I guess that does make me feel a little better. So, much like my friend Larry Foley, he hates... How dare the Simpsons?
Starting point is 01:22:11 He hates the Newfee name. He grew up. with the, you know, you got the coffee mug with the handle on the inside and there was a Nuffy coffee mug. It's cheap jokes, like Polish jokes. I grew up with Newfi jokes, Newfi jokes, Polish jokes, same thing, right?
Starting point is 01:22:24 So he said, he thought about it. He goes, but, and it's been covered, he said he did not want, he didn't want it to be a part of that show because of the use. No amount of money would entice me to take part of such an offensive production
Starting point is 01:22:36 to our culture and our people. Wow, good for him. And he's good for something. But the Simpsons go at everybody. They do, but that was, that's a cheap joke. They went out of us. That wasn't a, no, but those were cheap jokes. That wasn't, it wasn't particularly...
Starting point is 01:22:48 They do cheap jokes, like, at everybody. Like, they do it in Australians, they'll do it in British, but it's one thing to make the cheap joke, but then also to take something that does mean something to people. That sort of stripped away the value in that. So anyways, I respect the guy for turning it down. The Islander is the name of the song. Love it.
Starting point is 01:23:05 When you're in a pub on George Street on Saturday night, and the band starts playing that, tell me you don't feel like a Newfoundlander. Let me tell you. I love it. It is, I could see myself living in that town. Wow. So that is a place that feels like home when I go there.
Starting point is 01:23:19 That's awesome. Very nice. Shout out to Chantelle Grabyajek. You feels like home. Now, I will just say there is an Islander who has also been on Toronto Mike. So shout out to FOTM Brian Trotier. An Islander. Okay.
Starting point is 01:23:31 See what I did there? Okay. See that. I will move on to my second champ. Wow. Is this Justin Bieber? Is this the weekend? Is this?
Starting point is 01:24:09 I like it. I know who it is. Give it a moment. It's a great production. Oh, whoever it is. He lives down the street. Really? We've been talking about, well, maybe not on this episode, but going down the road.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Yeah. Janisford. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Directed by Donald Shabib. Yeah. Well, his son, he's no longer with us, Donald, but his son, Noah Shabib, he changed the proper pronunciation there. Also known as 40 lives down the street. I could bike over and show you his waterfront property.
Starting point is 01:25:10 No. And this is him? No, he produced it. Oh, who is it? Stray. I didn't know it's Drake. Okay, so. It all sounds the same to me.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I love it. It's called going home. Okay, it's good. This is called Hold on. Oh, hold on. We're going home. Nice. Which is by Drake, one of my favorite Drake songs.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Yeah, I would agree. Yeah, it's fantastic. So this came out in 2013. This was the third studio album from Drake called Nothing Was the Same. And we mentioned who produced it. there is another voice on this song that's not Drake's, okay? It is an R&B outfit known as Majid Jordan. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Okay, Majid Jordan. So I'll give you a taste. Majid Jordan. It's actually a vocalist named Majid Al-Mascati and the producer Jordan Olman. And that came up of Majid Jordan. So they're both Toronto guys as well, because Drake's the Toronto guy. Yeah. And they were on Ovo Sound, October's very own.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Ovo Sound, that is, of course, a Drake record label. an imprint of Warner Records. And this is from 2013. It's great. I mean, it's funny because 2013 also makes me think of daft punk. Get lucky. There's something in that era, right? It's a great production.
Starting point is 01:26:17 I thought this one had the Jimmy X, X, X, uh, samples, but it's not. It's another one. Oh, wow. Um, this is actually no samples in this. That's, this is all original. Wow. All original. But I will play just, like, who's Majid Jordan, right?
Starting point is 01:26:30 Like, I only know that. He's huge. Yeah, but here's the, uh, taste of him. So I'll bring down Drake for a moment. by Drake you're great okay let's do that again by the way I love when you said can you edit that out to Ramey she's like no that was awesome you're you're in charge of what comes out of your mouth that's the best line that was amazing I said the same thing to Shantelle Cravey
Starting point is 01:26:56 yeah that's right so this is just a little taste of like something else that did Jordan did this is waves of blue this is waves of blue Some nice Toronto R&B for you. And there's a cover I quite like. This was done for a BBC live production series. So I'm going to play a little bit of a cover, I think, Will Big. Of hold on, we're going home.
Starting point is 01:28:11 Recognize this voice, Bob LaLette? Okay, tell us. No, I'm trying to guess. Oh, my God, I can't give me a hint. Oh, it's, uh, Popular band. Yeah. Like, not the killers.
Starting point is 01:28:35 No, that's American. This is British. Oh, it's the, not Casabian. No, it's Archic Monkeys? Correct. Archite Monkeys. Yeah?
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't have guessed that. But I recognize the voice, though, yeah. Yeah, it's Arctic Monkeys. You look good on the dance floor. Okay. Oh, the hate for the Drake in the, in the comments right now.
Starting point is 01:28:56 Man, oh, man. I don't mind. I don't mind. Do you go over there? People are just so close-minded. Like as soon as it's a hip-hop, it's an old white guy thing. I'm sorry. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 01:29:05 Yeah, I'm an old white guy, but I grew up with young Jamaican. So I don't know. I think there's just a bias. I appreciate the production. Yeah, but it's just such a bias for hip-hop in general. They're the kind of guys that, like, my dad was, that's not rap. That's crap. That's what it sounds like to me.
Starting point is 01:29:20 I get sick of it. Okay, so hold on. We're going home by Drake. To me, to my ears. It's not a hip-hop song. No, well, he does the both, right? He does the R&B singing. thing. He's not rapping on that
Starting point is 01:29:33 thing. But to me it's a, I love that song. Like, I love it when it comes on. It's a vibe to me. I dig it. It's one of my favorite home songs. I wanted to pick all Canadian songs for this episode. Yeah, oh, good for you. You know, city and color is St. Catherine's. I had a couple of...
Starting point is 01:29:48 I had Ian Thomas. Yeah, there you go. And Fred Malin was related. My next is, my next is Canadian. Because it's about home. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. So anyway, no apologies. No, you don't like it. You have no reason to apologize. It's Good song. Music is music.
Starting point is 01:30:02 Canada Kev calls it Modern Day Musak. DJ Dream. Who's DJ Dream Doctor? He just hates it. The vitriol coming out of him is just ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:30:11 He says, okay, I'm not sure who DJ Dream Doctor is, but I think he wrote for a publication that Cam Gordon wrote for at some point. But Andy, who's a DeGrassey fanatic,
Starting point is 01:30:21 just says, Wheelchair Jimmy. That would be the character played by Drake on DeGrassey, the next generation. Okay. Any word?
Starting point is 01:30:31 before your final jam? Are we already to my final jam? How are we doing? We're doing good time, actually. I don't know. We took a long time to get to them. Yeah, but still, we're not doing bad. We're at 90 minutes right now.
Starting point is 01:30:43 I mean, we've gone in over another hour sometimes. Well, we've got a whole jam to go here. That's true. Rob, any words before your third jam? Because we've already heard this voice before. In this episode, we've heard this voice. Yes, we have. That's what I just said.
Starting point is 01:30:59 Hold on, we're letting them. Eric Dick Monkeys take us on. Oh, that's an idea. That's from a BBC live production, that one. That was Phil Collins for a moment. Quiet, he says. Quite on the set. I can tell you to save your tears.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Who that? Just Toast. Paul Young. Oh. The singer of Toast, our theme song. Oh. Yeah. Street band.
Starting point is 01:33:03 That's right. So this is Paul Young. This was like his first really sort of like worldwide hit. Oh, girl, Paul Young? No, that's Paul. Nope. Every time you go away, Paul Young. Oh, every time you go away.
Starting point is 01:33:13 That's Paul Abdul. Paul is. No, oh, girl. No, anyway. I'll be in trouble if you left me now. Yeah. Oh, he did that as well, didn't he? That's him is?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Yeah, I think he did that as well. I think so? I don't think so. Maybe not. I don't know. Sounds like him, though. Every time you go away is the first Paul Young song I'm ever hearing on the radio. But it's interesting to me now listening to this.
Starting point is 01:33:29 So this came out in 83, the album before he did every time you go away. But you can see where he sort of set the template for the sound of his cover versions, because this is not an original song. Okay. Either. But it sort of set his sound in motion. Yes. Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 01:33:43 You know? And I just love the song. And this is, again, like, he just sings about wherever I am. That's my home. And that's, it's sort of like a good life lesson that you have to just embrace wherever you are and make the best of what you got. But the thing I love about this song.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Oh, girl, 1990. Yes, it's his song. It is him as well. Cover as well, though. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying it's nice. Yeah. I knew.
Starting point is 01:34:04 I knew where that, like, 90, I'm 14. It's everywhere on the radio. That's right. But the featured instrument besides the voice on this song is the bass. And the bass player on the song is a guy named Pino Paladino
Starting point is 01:34:15 who is a very well-known session musician. What's the name of this song? Wherever I lay my hat. Wherever I lay my hat. That's home, right? My home. Pino. You know what they say?
Starting point is 01:34:27 Any paladino is a pal of mine. Any paladino is a pal of mine. That's right. This wasn't a single. Not at least according. Well, maybe not. I mean, it was a CF and Y song. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:35 Oh, it was a CF and a, Watcher. And probably in the UK as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just on Wikipedia. I'm not seeing it as a single. But this was definitely our introduction to hearing him in North America. But this bass player, Pino, Pino, the song really became known for this featured.
Starting point is 01:34:49 It's almost like the opening is the drum machine, which you correctly thought was Phil Collins. Yeah, it sounds like in the air tonight. Because it's the Roland is a CR 78 drum machine, which was the sound of the 80s. Yeah. Like it was, it's everywhere. It's Blondy Heart of Glass. It's Phil Collins. It's everything.
Starting point is 01:35:03 Yeah. But it's Paul Young singing with. Pino on the bass, and it really set his career off, too, because people are like, what is this fretless bass sound? Like, it's unbelievable. So it sort of set, set an inspiration for lots of people. Pino then played with Don Henley. He played with Gary Newman.
Starting point is 01:35:19 He played with Phil Collins. He, like, everybody wanted that sound. And so doing research for the song, I discovered that on the introduction for this song, Pino did a little theme, like a classical music theme. I had no idea until he mentioned it. So if you play my second... Yeah, I'll just say... Moose Grumpy points out, Pino played with the Who for years.
Starting point is 01:35:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, he's unbelievable. He's played with so many people. Pino fucking rocks, Canada Kev said. Yeah, he's amazing. But this song, I think, was like his introduction to the world as well. I saw an interview where he talked about the fact that when he heard the final mix,
Starting point is 01:35:52 he was almost embarrassed because he felt like, oh, my God, my bass is so loud. It's just me and, it's just me and Paul Young. But if you played this... Sounds like the beginning of the... Peter and the Wolf. The Ducks Unlimited commercial. It's the right of spring, actually. Yeah, like, uh, the...
Starting point is 01:36:10 Hinterland's who. Hintra land, who's who? Hintra land, that's right. That's what it sounds like. Yeah. The Canadian loon. So this is the bassoon. One of these has a loon on it, no?
Starting point is 01:36:18 Yeah. This is the bassoon introduction to the right of spring by Igor Stravinsky. I mean, it's totally unlike any other orchestral playing. Everything kind of hangs on you. I mean, you're not really conductor. The conductor will hold out an arm to signal for you to begin. And nothing will prepare you for how it feels until the performance. you have to wait for the space in time that you can properly start.
Starting point is 01:36:47 I don't even know who that guy is. It's a bassoonist just talking about the introduction for this song. So now play the opening of Paul Young again, and you'll hear sort of a reference to that melody in the bass. Right there. It's a little bit like the right of spring. I had no idea until I saw this interview with him, and he talked about it,
Starting point is 01:37:07 that the producer basically just said, like, you know, play something that sort of melodic. And he did this little thing. You can't go wrong with Stravince? No, I was Trevinsky. I was just listening to Stravinsky with my daughter. My 11-year-old loves classical music. Stop bragging, okay?
Starting point is 01:37:18 No, she does. She loves us. Oh, that's Trevinsky on this morning. I did. I did. Over the weekend, we were listening to Stravinsky. That's really cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:25 So, Paul Young. I was listening to Kaminsky. Kerminski Park. No, from the Kerminsky from the drive soundtrack. Oh, that's good. I think he just shouted out really funeral home. Yes, that's right. You're right.
Starting point is 01:37:37 It's great song. Yep. So anyways, that's the little, that's the little Pino-Paladino bass. But now I also, included a little bit of the original because I don't think that I really realized it's a cover, but it's actually from 1963 Marvin Gay. Same key, too. By the look in your eye, I can tell you're going to cry.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Is it over me? I mean, it shows you what Paul Young did. It's masterful how he opened it up. But if I may, there are some artists that are heavy on the covers. Yes. Because I was diving into Street Heart yesterday. I saw that, yeah. And I realized all the big Street Heart.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Jams, except for one, which is big as put quotes around that, okay? But the songs that are people you hear on the radio from Streetheart are covers. Yeah. And then I was trying to figure out, why the fuck is it such a blind spot? Like, yeah, they did under my thumb.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Yeah. And they did this other cover or whatever. But like, apparently they didn't break east of Manitoba. Wow. So Manitoba and West, Streetheart heads. Yeah, that's funny.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Streetheads. East of, east of Manitoba are like, who the fuck is Streetheart? That's funny. And the biggest thing Streetheart did is they gave birth to lover boy. Yeah. Well, and I mean, covers, I mean, there's nothing.
Starting point is 01:38:49 And fuck Mike Reno for saying no to his Toronto-Mike debut. I mean, covers, it's a beautiful thing, though, because like in the olden days, you know, the Beatles were the first ones to really write their own songs. They sort of set the template for people to go, like, oh, God, I guess we should write our own songs. Because there used to be... Twist and Shout was a big Beatles, well, yeah. But, and when they were on Sullivan the first time, they did something from the music man. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:39:12 They had to play until there was you. Until there was you. They had to play for the audience. And Chuck Barry, they did a lot of these covers in the beginning. But that's the way you learn to write your own songs is you've got to learn from the masters. So they were doing songs from such a wide range that now we think like every singer who's going to like wants to make a record or whatever, they got to write their own songs. But there's a whole history of fantastic songs that I think should still be rediscovered. And hopefully in coming years, people will also not be afraid to turn back and do fucking covers.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Well, they just sample them. Well, no, just fucking do your own version of a song. You don't need to sample it. I love a great sample. Listen to Top 40 radio? Yeah. But samples are fun. I love a great cover.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Like I love a cover. For sure. Yeah. I will often, uh, in the background, I'll, I'll throw a Spotify playlist on just literally put acoustic covers. Yes. And just throw it on. Do you know that's a new Edge 102 weekend series, acoustic cover? Is it acoustic cover?
Starting point is 01:40:01 It's probably not all covers. It's probably not all covers. But acoustic versions of songs. You know, like what we're doing. Yesterday morning I heard a bit of it. Well, it's because we're at Indy 88, we're doing the cafe, the weekend cafe, now hosted by Lana Gay. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:40:13 And it's doing very, very well. That's awesome. Well, let me ask you this because there's new ownership, right? Because, uh, well, yeah, what's the name of the new company? Nucco. Nucco, right? So, what a fucking great. The Simpsons were going to make a fake company name to absorb buy up stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:28 They'd call them Nucco. Yeah, they would. Okay. So when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when, when Chorus radio has new ownership. Yeah. Do you have a prediction? Like, do they give a fuck?
Starting point is 01:40:38 Do they so there's a bunch of people who are, um, oh, I was reading quite a bit about there are a bunch of people who are, uh, who are shareholders. And they're against, they were against this being allowed, but they've got it. So now this nuke owns 66%. And a lot of the people are like,
Starting point is 01:40:52 they're going to start selling it off. Like they're pretty sure that they're going to start, start piecemealing it off. So we'll see. I mean, the main thing is, you know, there's a lot of people who are really staunch supporters of news,
Starting point is 01:41:02 you know, of proper journalism in Canada. Yeah. Because there are five news stations that they own across the country, which doesn't sound like a lot, but it's a fair amount. That's, you know, five different cities. that would lose another news source, quote, unquote. Although it's been pretty cut,
Starting point is 01:41:16 cut pretty fucking tight there now as it is. There's not a lot of people left. So I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah, because you're an indie 88 guy. You must have your eyes, you know, looking at 102.1. Like, will you, if, what happens to CFN Y with the new ownership? Who knows?
Starting point is 01:41:32 I mean, if they'll look at the ratings and they'll look, you know, the, the, the, the, the brand that's keeping that the, the lights on in Toronto is Q10. Q107 is doing quite well generally. Generally speaking, it's all that Max Webster. Generally speaking, Q107 is a top five or six radio station in Toronto adults 2554 where the edge is somewhere between 8 and 10 probably. Maybe maybe 7 to 10 depending on what's going on. So and then 640 is not even on the like it's top 20 if that. So you know, that costs you a lot of money to run an AM radio station. Cost you a lot of money to keep that station on the air. I don't know what they. do for me to I could never predict because these people who are coming in are not radio people. They're not journalists. They're they're an investment company. So what are they going to do? They're going to make money. I don't know what I don't know what that looks like. That means shutting shutting off 640. Shetting off a lot. Turn off the 640 lights. Yeah. It's not the
Starting point is 01:42:30 first time. And a.m. because it's very it's, I think it's like tens of grand. Rogers just to run. Yeah. It's tens of thousands of dollars just to run an AM signal. Even if Ben Marruni works for free, Rumor has that he works for like a dollar or something, like the John Tori contract that 1010 had going on or whatever. Like, yeah, like you shut it down. And then you got two stations on the FM dial. You mentioned Q and 07 and you got CFMY. Those playlists are getting closer and closer and closer.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Yeah. Yeah, the programming that's happening, I got to admit, I don't really understand it. But hey, I'm also not a programmer anymore. I'm two years of just being an announcer. So I'm happy of, you know, worrying about my show. Stay tuned. Yeah, that's all you can do.
Starting point is 01:43:10 I literally have no. idea what they're going to do. I know that Bell wanted to sell a lot more than they did. Sure. Bell wanted to divest a lot more than they did than they did. It'll be interesting to see. I mean, the rules have changed. You can in a bigger market like this. Somebody could come in like a new cap or whatever they are, Stingray, I guess. Stingray could buy them because they're allowed, they would be allowed to have four FMs in Toronto because of the size of Toronto. So somebody could buy them. Wow. It's fine. Nobody will want to buy 640s. Maybe if you could get it on a real cheap, if you get a deal and then maybe I want to.
Starting point is 01:43:41 these multicultural stations would buy it because they sell all that. What about like a John Pole? John Pole, I don't know if he's got the capital. And I also don't know if John Paul or in my case, Christopher Grossman, who owns in the 88, Christopher Grossman, I know has stated publicly, it is very difficult to operate a standalone one FM radio station in Toronto, what he's doing right now. It is very difficult. So the more stations you have, the easier it is because you can use the different resources.
Starting point is 01:44:08 I don't know if John Pole. wants to come into Toronto. You could ask him. He's great. I know he's been on Toronto Mike. Of course, I can ask him. Okay, so stay tuned what's going on at the chorus stations. We're always keeping an eye on 102.1 and Q107. Yeah, which is the best.
Starting point is 01:44:25 640, every day I hear it still on the air. I'm surprised. So I don't suspect as long for this world. But what do I know? This is Toronto, different rules in the rest of the country. Okay. So I'm excited to play a song I quite like. Bob's going to kick out here,
Starting point is 01:44:38 and then I'm going to go take a leak. This is Toronto. This is my home song. hometown go that's right nice row you feel hot so ascend the blend
Starting point is 01:45:04 the crescendo is nice so nice you want to sweat while I start to rap music hip hop beat hip up B'd yeah evaporated
Starting point is 01:45:14 gone like a dude drop you try to crush me out here comes a true proper rhymes my cultivation attracting more brothers and Kennedy Station residing
Starting point is 01:45:22 I'll find my lines and pour them at a floor with a blinder I'll swing I'm a sister sing for the brother Who's conducting things I'm conducting
Starting point is 01:45:30 Negerate in a flage and all Girl I won't surrender So many ronies They want to ten Like save her toothed tigers I always dip Even if I had a lift I had a lift but still sound
Starting point is 01:46:01 Crith cars I'm a brother Who's real not fake I don't steal or take Be a rich girl Don't Can hear it through my headphones Yeah
Starting point is 01:46:12 Okay love it Conducting Thangs Mestro West It's great Symphony in full effect No I know it's not I guess I just like saying it So
Starting point is 01:46:21 fact check Bob on his No, no, no. So when I, so yes, FOTM, Meestro Fresh West. So this song comes out like 91. Is that when it came out? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:30 First single from the follow-up to. To the one with five, let your backbone slide in and drop the needle. So I actually think that this. Black Tire Fair. Yep. I think this shows off Maestro's rapping skills better than,
Starting point is 01:46:42 it's really good. Better than, Let your backbone slide. That's a shock to me. I think it's, when you listen to his lyrics, I think he spits way harder on this one. I think that,
Starting point is 01:46:51 The reason why I picked it as my home song is because I can remember hearing it. I mean, he's the, so obviously, you know, attracting more brothers than Kennedy Station.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I used to have to go to, I used to go to Kennedy Station all the time. I had a girlfriend who lived out that way. And I also bowled out in Scarborough. So I was always taking Scarborough buses. The, the 86 and the, and the Birchmount 17,
Starting point is 01:47:13 I think it will. Anyways, so I was very familiar with Scarborough. And then he has a line. I'm so fly. I'm dropping dope like Canada. You sense. Pride, obviously, is Canadian.
Starting point is 01:47:23 Dropping dope like Panama. Yeah. But I'm so fly. Yeah, yeah, but he's dropping dope like Panama. But I'm so, they think I'm weak because I'm from Canada. Yeah. So Canada is the home mention, but I'm so fly. I'm dropping dope like Panama.
Starting point is 01:47:38 But dropping dope is, that's a two, dope means cool and dope means drugs. Right. So it's a double entendre. So that I, so, and again, he's mentioning how cool it is to be from Canada. Yeah. And then he's got a great line from, uh, bird. Birchmount just north of Glendower. Love it.
Starting point is 01:47:53 And my buddy, who I grew up with in Blake Bulpi, he moved to Birch Mountain Glendower. And I used to go there when I was a little, when I was 12. That's so cool. So there is right there. That was the lyric right there. From Birchmount, just north to Glendala. I love that. So I, yeah, so when I thought about what is home, this Maestro song is home to me.
Starting point is 01:48:13 That's awesome. Yeah. And yeah, Simone Denny is on the backup vocals. Wow. She's doing the backups. Yep, Simone Denny's on the backups. And I thought I would, uh, provide a couple of the samples in which...
Starting point is 01:48:23 You've got the samples with this? I've got the... And you'll hear it right away. They're from the 60s. Take a listen to these. Okay, I love this song, by the way. It's great. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:49:01 So this is Prince Buster. Yeah. By Al Capone. Prince Buster is the artist. Al Capone's the name of the song, 1967. Oh, it's just like white lines, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Oh, it is too, you're right. Yeah. And then So there's the main thing And then the next part Prince Buster Yeah Prince Buster Is the Sky
Starting point is 01:49:22 This is the Don Drummond version But the Scottolites did it in 69 as well This is Man in the Street Wow You can hear Love it Yeah I love this so much
Starting point is 01:49:33 And that's where you can really hear I mean that again If you're talking Toronto And you're talking hip hop You can't not talk about the Reggae ska scene It was huge you know, big, big influence, and
Starting point is 01:49:44 Maestro's always all over it. Obviously, Drake is, and... Mishimi. Mishimi, all of those, yeah, yeah, for sure. So, Mishimi Jamaican. Yes. Meestro Gienese. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:00 Anyways, so... And even if he had a list, it'd still sound... Do you think that offends those words? Speaking challenges? Probably, I don't know. It's good, but I don't think they listen to it. Yeah. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:50:11 So that's my home... That's my home jam. I love it. No. So two... So let me get this right. You could see yourself in Jamaica. Yep.
Starting point is 01:50:17 You can see yourself in Newfoundland and Labrador. Yes. Don't fuck with the Labrador. Okay. But... I've lived within... I've lived within 10 kilometers of the same place my whole life. Love it, though.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yep. I've lived within 10... Maybe less. But isn't that show you the power of music, though? Yeah. The music takes you anywhere you want to go. Doesn't matter where you go, right? No, music is always...
Starting point is 01:50:40 And read a shirt. Home is... Toronto. See, he wore that for the scene. Yeah, I knew that. I love it. Home is Toronto, and you're wearing a Toronto Maple Leaf shirt. There you go.
Starting point is 01:50:51 And you got an Elba combo shirt on. Also Toronto based. I'm wearing this because after this, I'm recording with, who am I recording with again? I can't remember. You told me before. His name is Colin James. And he's doing his book launch at the Elma. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:51:05 Are you going to the Elmo? Are you going to the hotel? I wasn't going to go to the Elmo. I'm going to go to the book, wherever Penguin Books is headquarters. I don't know here. Okay, so I'm just checking in on the live stream, Canada Kev Sharedi notes, ska. The Madness song, The Prince, is referring to Prince Buster.
Starting point is 01:51:23 Yeah. What else we got here? Yeah, he was listening to Q107 the other day, and he said they were playing Depeche Mode. But what I did is I did an anecdotal little study. Yeah, the Q playlist is morphing into a lot of the CF&Y stuff, and other than the fact that you don't hear Led Zeppelin in the Rolling Stones and you don't hear Kim Mitchell
Starting point is 01:51:45 and there's certain acts you do not hear on CF and Y but a good chunk of the playlist is overlapping now. They've morphed. Which is, from a business standpoint I don't, unless they're just selling them as a combo only, which is a good possibility. Maybe you're just like, you're
Starting point is 01:52:01 selling the audience together, but I don't know. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing. I don't know what they're doing, but only Q is playing Colin James. If you want to hear Colin James, only Q? Yeah, you're not going to hear Colin James on C.H. No. CF and Y. CF&Y. CF&Y. By the way, Christopher Ward says,
Starting point is 01:52:17 Bob, I've never lived east of Bathurst, but I married a Newfoundlander, and that place has felt like home every time I've gone there since 2007. It really does. Without fail. I haven't lived, I lived at 30 Charles Street West, but I've never lived east of young. I've never lived east. I've never lived east of, I've never lived west. I've never lived west of Pape. Wow. That's how it. I've only, between Pape and Main Street is where I've lived my whole life. And also the damn fourth.
Starting point is 01:52:44 You guys, I'm moving outside of a city. I know. That's crazy. So where are you moving again? So it's upstate. You want to Kingston? Yeah, near Kingston and Woodstock area. Nah, huh.
Starting point is 01:52:54 But the weird thing is like, like, so we're in a neighborhood. Yeah. But we're not walking to any, like in our neighborhood. You can't walk. We're not walking to a store. So it's like. Why do you want to move somewhere that you can't walk to a store? Well, I like the community.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Like, like I just like. I don't, this is an American thing, right? I don't you want to walk everywhere or bike everywhere? No, we do. We can walk and bike everywhere. but it's like living like up north or something. Like the community is the homes. It's not a bedroom community.
Starting point is 01:53:19 Is it a bedroom community? No, not really. What if someone steals your catalytic converter? You'll be out of it. Oh my God. When I was driving yesterday, like an hour into my drive, the battery light came on in this car.
Starting point is 01:53:29 Speaking of the Alma combo. What? Your battery light came on? My battery light came on for like five minutes and then went off again. I was like, are you fucking? Keep an eye on it. I know.
Starting point is 01:53:35 No, dude, seriously. Watch for it because it could be your alternator. It didn't come up. I know. That's what happened to me. Anyways, I'm here now. It doesn't matter. No, I know, but still.
Starting point is 01:53:42 You might be having to live here. Okay, so I'm going to kick out one more jam. So I kicked out a song from St. Catharines, and then I went all the way back to Toronto, but now I'm going to move out west, if you don't mind. Here we go. I thought you might have gone. All right. This is home to you.
Starting point is 01:53:59 I like it. It's a home jam. Yeah, a big time. Root for the home team. You have to excuse me. I'm not in my best. I've been gone for a month I've been drunk since I left
Starting point is 01:54:23 These so-called vacations will soon be my death I'm so sick from the drink I need home for a rest September and London The car leaves me I'm not a jim-wizoo Almost a Canadian national anthem over here. He's gone.
Starting point is 01:55:16 Rob Proust, taking a leak, everybody. I'll time it. It's four and a half minute song, so you're good. This is from 1990. It's from Save This House. This is, of course...
Starting point is 01:55:26 It's a great album. Great album. You're right. Love that. Spirit of the West. The song is called Home for Arrest. How many times this been kicked out on this state,
Starting point is 01:55:36 on this show? I don't think that many times. I have to check it out. I don't mean just toast. I mean everything. Good question, but it is like our anthem. So you'll hear in the lyrics here.
Starting point is 01:55:46 It's about a drinking spree in London, England, that the band was in London. They wrote this song. Damn, I always thought when I was here in Spear of the West, I figured it was an East Coast band. I had no idea this is a West Coast band. The drummer is an FOTM, so Find the Vince Ditrich episode of Toronto Mike. But the lead singer, I feel like I should wait for Rob Pruss.
Starting point is 01:56:10 I feel like he's in need of a Spirit of the West. Does he know Spear of the West? I feel like this will be a blind spot. No, no, he's talked, we've talked about him before. They've come up. John Mann? Yeah, I think we've mentioned John Mann before. Okay.
Starting point is 01:56:22 I'll vamp until he gets here. But this was originally intended to be a throwaway tune. And then it wound up on Save This House because the producer, a man named Danny Greenspoon, insisted that it ends up on Save This House. And the rest is history. I would say looking at the great career of Spear of the West and all the radio songs,
Starting point is 01:56:41 this is. The definitive Spirit of the West song. 100%. I love Venice is sinking and political. They've got their amazing catalog. I've seen them three times, I think. I saw them at the Horseshoe. I saw them at Eden Fest in 1996.
Starting point is 01:57:00 Right, with Stu Stone and Campbell. Yeah, and I also saw them a couple years ago when the Grey Cup was here, they played on Front Street right before. I think he was already diagnosed, but he was still performing. It was one of the last. And the Mahones opened for them. I can still hear you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:17 So, Rob Pruse. Yes. What do you think of home for arrest? I love it. That's why I got up to go because I knew I know this song and I love the song. I'm going to be playing a Spirit of the West song on Friday night. Oh, I bet you are. The West End Phoenix as well.
Starting point is 01:57:29 What song? So political. Nope. Venice is sinking. Yeah. I don't remember who singing. How many songs are you, how many songs are you doing on? 24 fucking songs.
Starting point is 01:57:38 Wow. Wow. You're in the house band. I'm in the house band. No, that's so great. I wish I wasn't one of the blue jeans. to the Blue Jay game. I'm going to the Blue J game. I would go to that. Such a short little bike ride
Starting point is 01:57:47 to Palais Royal right on the waterfront trail. I do want to go? What day is it? Friday night. That's great. Huck me up, man. I'll hook you up. I tried to promote it. The fucker bailed on me. You should be there because it's your world. I should be there. He's a good FOTM. Yes, and there's going to be a lot of Tom Wilson is singing. Ron Sexmith is singing. Tom Wilson. Yeah. And I'm very excited to meet these guys. I've never met Ron Sexman. I've never met Ron either. He's going to be there.
Starting point is 01:58:12 But he's been on the show twice. But not in real life. So this is your opportunity then Friday night. John Mann, who had Alzheimer's, we lost him far too soon. The final time that Spirit of the West played Massey Hall. It was 2015. I was going to say, how long ago was that long ago? And John Mann was struggling with the lyrics to this song, okay?
Starting point is 01:58:32 And the crowd carried him. And I just pulled a little audio because it made me weep a little bit here. But this is, you love to excuse me I'm not saying But the last time they played Home for Arrest at Massey Hall John Mann
Starting point is 01:59:32 struggling with the lyrics And the crowd takes over My goodness Okay one last fun fact here About Spirit of the West I think an underrated Canadian band Maybe because we're Toronto-centric here
Starting point is 01:59:46 And the Vancouver stuff we don't appreciate like we should sometimes, I think maybe. But Spirit of the West, underappreciated Canadian band. But in 2022, the CBC affiliate there in Vancouver was doing a contest, like a poll, I guess, of the listenership. Like, what are the biggest songs to come out of British Columbia? Okay, so 2022, biggest songs to come out of British Columbia. This song, Home for a Rest, won that,
Starting point is 02:00:18 contest. Wow. But I'm going to play a little bit of what finished second place. Okay. So if you have, think in your mind right now. So what do you think would be other than Spirit of the West by, I mean, Home for Rest by Spirit of the West, what do you think would be the biggest song to come out of British Columbia? Do you have it in your mind yet? That's something by Chilliwack. F-O-T-M band, Chilac. You got a song in your mind, Rob Pruce? Maybe something by Loverboy. Oh, really? I hate to say I'm playing this. Carly, that's a good song. It's a great song.
Starting point is 02:00:52 It's a great fucking song. I love this song. You know, it's only 15 years old. I know. I feel like it's, like, more than that. Like it's been around forever. Right. So this was a song that finished second.
Starting point is 02:01:01 Wow. This song was narrowly beaten by Home for a Rest. What a great, but the variety is, the contrast is fantastic. Yeah. It's a great song. It's a great song. I'm playing this now. Nice.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Oh, yeah. You're doing this. And I got to do this thing. Listen to this keyboard part. Here comes. what? This thing right here. Oh, so you have to program that.
Starting point is 02:01:31 I'm going to play it. No, I know. I don't have a sample. Like, there's a sample, right? Yeah. But,
Starting point is 02:01:35 like, they're playing this. Yeah. No, I know, but what I'm saying is the sounds change. Yeah. You have to change like,
Starting point is 02:01:42 the notes. Do you have two keyboards? Yeah. It's just the same. So you have two keyboards? No, no one. How do you change the sound?
Starting point is 02:01:48 Well, I split it all up. Okay. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. You have to program it so that, you have to program it. So that,
Starting point is 02:01:53 You've got the string sound. Yeah. That high thing is a string too. Oh, is it? That's actually an orchestral sample. I don't know what it comes from. It's like an orchestra thing. But I'm going to just play it.
Starting point is 02:02:02 And then you're just going to play it. Oh, okay. To me it sounds like something different. It is different. Oh, but you're going to play it same. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:02:08 yeah. That's cool. I'm going to keep it live. Oh, it's fun. It's hard. Leslieville thought you were going to play the homecoming by,
Starting point is 02:02:15 I know. I thought of that on the way here. Harry. Haygood, Haygood, Haygood, Hardy. Hay good,
Starting point is 02:02:19 Do I know this song? No sweet home Alabama. It's an instrumental. I only know hard on Harry. No. From pump up the volume. Nope. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:31 I know massive head wound Harry from Saturday Night Live. Yes. Kevin Nealyn, right? No, Kevin Ealing's in the sketch, but it's Dana Carvey's massive head wound Harry. It was a one-time sketch. It's fucking hilarious. And then there's John Cleese in the Harry Potter movies.
Starting point is 02:02:45 He's headless. That's right. Somebody here. I don't know. Okay. So Canada. Cadd is going to try to go to the Palais Royal. Oh, good. And you're going to hook me up?
Starting point is 02:02:53 I'm going to hook you up. There you go. I'm excited now. Okay. Shortest bike ride to a concert, I think I can never do. That's amazing. Now, do you want to guess the rest of the top five of this was a poll by CBC? Nelly Fittato in there. So this is number two? Nelly Fittato's in it. Number one was home for a rest. Okay, this is number two.
Starting point is 02:03:09 Number two is this song. We're listening to right now. Number three was Nelly for Tato's, I'm like a bird. Of course. Okay. Number four is a guy I've been trying to get on Toronto mic for 12 years now. Shout out to Rami the Minks. This is Raffy's baby Baluga. Oh.
Starting point is 02:03:25 I'm listening to... I can't get Raffy to get on a fucking Zoom with me. There's a great podcast right now called Finding Raffy. Oh, right. It's really good at this podcast, yeah. I love it. What's good? It's called Finding Raffy.
Starting point is 02:03:35 It's like a series of... I know where he is. He's on Blue Sky. Yeah, I know. He's always on Blue Sky. Yeah, he got off. He used to be very active on Twitter. Yeah, he's really active on Threads now.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Yeah. Threads too. And Blue Sky, yeah. See, Threads is a black hole. He's the best. Yeah. Sarah McLaughlin round the top five.
Starting point is 02:03:51 Which one? She's Halifax artist. Yeah. But she's, she's associated to the West. No, I know. But when do you get to
Starting point is 02:03:57 claim an artist? Like I had this chat with somebody from the maritime. Do you think Brian Adams? Right. Well, yeah, he's, well, yes.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Okay. That's good point. Yeah. So he is affiliate of the West and he's from Orillia. But he's from Kingston originally, isn't he? Kingston.
Starting point is 02:04:07 I thought he was born in Kingston. You're right. Maybe you're in Kingston. Okay. So, but Sarah McLaughlin was recording music and in Halifaxx before she moved at West. But that's the record label, right?
Starting point is 02:04:18 Like, it's the network thing. Network and 604 are the two big labels that you would have gotten those associations with. But the song by Sarah McLaughlin, any guesses, what was number five on the building a mystery? Nope. Angel. Nope, keep going.
Starting point is 02:04:32 The ice cream. No, no. Fuck, I don't know. I will remember you. There you go. And I forgot it. We forgot it. There you go.
Starting point is 02:04:40 How was the home jams there, Rob Pris? This was good, right? It turned out really good. You guys brought it. How come no one? brought Maltley Cruz home or Sweet Home Alabama It's not our home though
Starting point is 02:04:50 See I wanted to A disc track against my boy It is I know It's a great disc track But see I wanted Because in home I'll young will remember In my mind home was something personal
Starting point is 02:04:59 And you guys both made it personal Yeah Which I love But I did home If you noticed All my songs have home in the title I guess You were very
Starting point is 02:05:05 You were very Ball went out and did a spin on it Which is very lovely And I didn't get yelled at for it It was home jams It's home Yeah You know there was no more specifics
Starting point is 02:05:15 Nope. I'm going to... Are you next? Yeah, it's my turn. You did Prog Rock. Oh, I did too. That's right. You sure did.
Starting point is 02:05:22 When you were saying, oh, the best songs were those two-minute songs or whatever from the 50s and 60s, I was thinking, okay, we did Prague Rock last time. 20-minute jams or whatever. All right, so the topic for the next toast, I declare. I declare. Dream jams. Dream jams. Dream jams. Dream jams.
Starting point is 02:05:45 Are you leaving it there? You left it at home jams. I know, I know. I love that. So now Bob will just pick songs about dreams he's had. No, it'll have to be somebody with the last name, Dream. Tommy Dreamer, the wrestler. DJ Doctor, Dream Theater.
Starting point is 02:06:01 DJ Dream Theater. DJ Dream Doctor, right. There you go. Okay, so Dream Jam's next month. That'll be October. I didn't want to do the obvious Halloween jam. Oh, I got a few already. I got a lot of good dreams.
Starting point is 02:06:12 There's also a lot of chance of crossovers. We got to be careful. Get on it fast. Yeah. Jump on it. Jump on it. Jump around. That's right.
Starting point is 02:06:20 Jump up. Jump up. So you're in town for a long time. This, just this week. Like, I mean, so the gig is, but normally you don't pop me or from me.
Starting point is 02:06:27 So we're rehearsing a couple days this week with all the singers and then the gig is Friday night. And then I'm leaving Saturday. Moving early next week. And it's a little stressful, but thank you. It's very exciting. Well, good luck with the move.
Starting point is 02:06:37 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Canada has dibs on the Allman Brothers bands, Dreams. Oh. Roy Orbison will be into House. Oh,
Starting point is 02:06:45 That's from Jeremy Hopkins here. And Moose Grumpy says it was a great way to spend a Monday morning. This is Monday. It's been a long week. It's Monday. This is my Wednesday. That's right. And he says, sheath, this is high praise from Caesar here.
Starting point is 02:06:58 Thoroughly enjoyed this episode. Great job. Lads. Oh, she's calling his Lads. Okay. Okay, ma'am. Sad animals. Sad animals.
Starting point is 02:07:08 I don't even know what the references to. It's two minutes ago. Did anyone know it, but sad animals. Oh, baby a beluga, maybe. Oh, maybe, yeah. Right. Thank you, Mike. Tobias Vaughan. Okay. Rafi rocks on the social, says Canada Kev. And Leslie says it's on the Oh, What a Feeling CD, which I actually owned and listened too many times. I have both of the silver and the black one. Oh, yeah. There's two of them. Subdivisions. Okay. Dream jams coming up.
Starting point is 02:07:32 Got it. Where am I? I understand the assignment. I'm like, what pod is not turning up here? Okay. And that. It brings us to the end of our 1,975th show, I should be on the next episode. It's my birthday. You got to get ahead of that thing. Because I'm doing Colin James in an hour. Go to TorontoMike.com. By way, here's a book for you, Rob Proust.
Starting point is 02:07:55 That's the book. It's called Playing the Changes. Playing the Changes by Colin James to be discussed later today of Colin James. Go to TorontoMike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs and much love to all who made this possible. That is Great Lakes Brewery, Palmapasta, Nick Ieini's Recycle MyElectronics.ca and Ridley Funeral Home.
Starting point is 02:08:13 See you all. I'm going to drop it tomorrow morning. I'm going to record it in like an hour and a half or something. Colin James returns to Toronto Mike. It's an in-person conversation. Don't you dare miss it. It's been more than five long years. I see what you did there.
Starting point is 02:08:30 I just came back to say goodbye. That's a good...

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