Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jake Goldsbie: Toronto Mike'd #830

Episode Date: April 5, 2021

Mike chats with Jake Goldsbie about his years on Degrassi: The Next Generation, appearing in Drake's video for I'm Upset, recording Columbia House Party with Blake Murphy, his favourite song by his favourite band and more.

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Pillars of the community since 1921. And Mike Majewski, or as I call him, Mimico Mike. He's the real estate agent who's ripping up the Mimico real estate scene. Learn more at realestatelove.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com. And joining me this week is Jake Goldsby. Hello. Welcome, Jake.

Welcome. Oh, I don't know why I welcomed you. Fun little music break though. I like that. Oh, that's a, do you know the local rapper producer Ill Vibe? Does that mean? I don't think I do. Well, you're not alone in that, but he's great though. He put that together like a decade ago for Toronto Mic'd. I've been using it for 830 episodes now. 830. Good God.

Well, you'll get there soon. We'll see. So you're Jake. Okay, so fun fact here is my buddy, my good buddy Mark Hebbshire, who I co-host Hebbsy on Sports With, he's got a son named Jake, and today is his, Jake's birthday. Oh,

happy birthday, well-named Jake. Well, here it gets better. So coincidentally, I'm told it's a coincidence uh hebsey's like longtime friend and former and current manager of the tragically hip is jake gold yes of course it's his birthday today too huh well that is a good collection of jakes on this april 5th sadly it is not my birthday also oh actually okay so this is a really fun fact your birthday is 8888 it is like that's true that's crazy yeah it's been kind of one of those weird things forever i mean literally forever for me but uh yeah right exactly well in some cultures uh eight is a very very lucky number yeah i'm

very good luck in not for myself has anyone ever on any level confused you of jake gold like maybe they were gonna meet jake goldsby and they thought they were gonna meet jake gold has that ever happened i don't think so but uh it would be pretty funny if they got us confused i think are you a hip fan not really i have to admit i know i kind of i get a lot of flack for that one but uh not really my thing oh some people want to like take your passport away or something like that yeah that's it seems like the one band where people get really mad when I say I don't like them. That's actually too bad to hear.

So I excuse you. I do like the hip, but I totally get people not digging the Tragically Hip. But I did get you confused. So we'll get into this, but I had Blake in my backyard this last summer. Of course. Who you might be aware of. The best boy. Blake and Jake. I love how that sounds. like so we'll get into this but i had blake in my backyard this uh last summer blake murphy of course who you might be aware of the best boy blake and jake i love how that sounds but i actually for a moment he said he was doing a podcast of jake goldsby and i did get you confused with jonathan goldsby yes jonathan is my first cousin okay so there is relation there he's working with the uh the almighty jesse brown uh these days

yes he is breaking stories about corruption in the ford government yeah that's not hard to do actually no yeah what a surprise did you ever consider moving and again all this is all teaser for what happens next but uh columbia house party moving that to the canadaland network has there been any discussions i don't think so i'm not sure it's uh i don't know if we're we're pretty dumb so well i mean we'll get into i'm a big fan of your podcast by the way so uh keep up the good work but we'll we'll get into get into that but what a pleasure to have you on the show. You're kind of, I guess, well, not kind of, but you're, and again, I might want to like cannibalize this time and just talk Columbia House Party,

but I know you were like a child actor, like a child star. I was, yes. Now, before we get into that, I do a show once a week with a guy named Stu Stone who's older than you because you're i know your birthday because if you're 8888 you've got a you've got a number of years on my buddy stew stone but stew stone was a child actor and i'm i guess i'm wondering off the bat if you've ever heard of stew stone i don't think so i don't know if he was in the as you say the

same cohort so to speak no yeah you you guys, as you say, the same cohort, so to speak. No, yeah. You guys wouldn't be going for the same parts. That's for sure. Or maybe he's not that tall a guy. Maybe he were. I don't know. Nor am I. How tall are you? I'm a big old five foot five. Okay. Yeah. That's about Stu Stone's height. I'm a real short, as I call it. And how tall is Blake? I'm trying to remember now.

He's like normal, like 5'11 or something like that? Yeah, Blake's like 5'11, 6 feet tall, I would say. Maybe a little taller. Because I'm only 5'9. So people who are like 5'11, like Blake, they might as well be 6'5 or something. Yeah, anyone over 5'8 for me might as well be 6 feet tall. Right.

So you're a child actor and we'll get into it, particularly one show, which I pulled a theme song for and we'll get into it particularly one show which i pulled a theme song for and we'll play that oh good because i know you haven't heard it before never heard it is this correct this fun fact that your first acting job was on one of my favorite shows of all time kids in the hall i believe so i'm unsure if it was that or a commercial, but it was one of like the first, if not the first, it was the second. Do you remember what the commercial was for? I think it was for Tiger Electronics, which I don't think exists as a company anymore. No, I don't think so.

They made those like shitty drugstore video games, like disney aladdin like one button things and uh like how old you think you were when you appeared on kids in the hall i would have been five okay yeah okay that's a while ago so i do if people you know the the the kids in the hall completists or whatever uh the sketch is called weekend with daddy yeah it's uh pretty insane and uh well at five you don't remember anything so i don't have any further questions your honor but uh that is kind of neat for the resume though only because it's such an iconic canadian uh show yeah it's one of those things where like obviously i was, so I had no sense of anything. But, like, in retrospect, it's like, it was kind of all downhill from there. Well, I mean, it could be worse, right?

Like, oh, yeah, I was on Kids in the Hall. Like, the detail about how I don't remember any of it. I was only five. Like, that's all detail. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Like, I was on Kids in the Hall. And it's like, oh, that's fucking cool.

You were on Kids in the Hall. Yeah. It could have been worse, right? Like, it could have been some shitty, well, some shitty show that people are trying to forget or something. Yeah. No, it's definitely one of those things where now it's like, that's awesome. I hold it like in very high regard now for myself. Absolutely.

I would just like have a t-shirt that says i was on kids in the hall but you're on another show now i am i've got okay 88 so you think i could do this math easier but i got like i'm about 14 years older than you so i'm like a degrassi og guy like i had the originals yeah joey jeremiah has been on the show okay i'm exciting i'm excited to announce that caitlin's coming on the show i call and that's the the other thing too, I call them by their characters' names. That's because you grew up with it. Right, because that was my show. But here, I pulled a theme song, so let me play it

since I did all that effort here. So standby, here we go. The long version, by the way. There's a long one well it's like three minutes what yeah well i'll bring it down and chat about it then i'll bring it back up but yeah this uh this degrassi theme song i pulled is like three minutes and 10 seconds or something i genuinely had no idea there was a long list of this song. Who's the vocalist? Do you know? No idea.

I know that Jim McGrath was the... I believe he wrote it, or at least was our music supervisor. I don't know who the vocalist is. Okay, so I'm going to give it 30 before I pull this down. So stand by there. Take a swig of that beverage there. I know I'm making it.

Nobody said it would be easy to be a kid, but growing up's tough when you think of the things you did. Yeah, this must have been on like a Degrassi compilation or something. This is the real deal here. I think so. That's wild. I don't think I've ever heard that before. Alright, so many questions

here. Now, okay. Now, I should preface this by saying when I had Pat Mastroianni on who played joey jeremiah he also has appeared on the next generation as his character joey but he's he talked about how uh how did he describe it he said it got all corporate like it was all like union and that means it was not nearly as fun i guess as he had the first time which of course he was also older but i guess uh there's a big difference between union and non-union maybe for actors well i mean

i don't know if i would call it i mean for a 12 year old i'm glad it was union because it allows us for things like meal breaks and not falling behind in school and all those things and also being paid better that's a good point uh okay so here let me let me start with my digrassi questions i could definitely see how it'd be less fun if you were on it as a 16 year old in a non-union world and then as an adult in a union world right right right well i'll find out because you know if i remember correctly the whole premise was that Spike's child, that as you know, Spike had a baby with Shane. You know all this, but I need to tell people that I'm on this.

Like, I'm on this, okay? So Shane, of course, who dropped acid, and then I think he thought he could fly or something, and then he ended up challenged as a result of this accident, if I'm getting my stuff right uh sounds right sounds right but spike of course who was the teenage pregnancy she had a child and that child is sort of was like this this this next generation sequel series that you were in was based around the child of spike and shane maybe yeah that was like the

entry point so to speak. And of course, although sadly, Shane, of course, had his own problems, but Spike did end up with Snake. Yes. And Snake was a key figure.

Was he a teacher in The Next Generation? Yeah. And I think after my time, he became the principal. I'm not sure. So they booted Radich out the door. They said, Radich,

get out of here. He was there from, he was there when I was there. Wow. Uh, but I don't know. I, I'm not sure what the,

uh, the teacher lineup was in the later years. Who's it? DeMarco was Melissa DeMarco. Was she a principal? She was the, was she the principal? She was definitely a teacher? Was she a principal? Was she a principal? She was definitely a teacher. Maybe she became the principal.

Maybe it goes like Radich, DeMarco, and Stefan. And then Stefan, who of course is Snake. I will now refer to as Snake. Sorry, Stefan, if you're listening. So tell us, Jake. See, I'm smart enough to know to call you

Jake, because you are a human beyond Degrassi here. if you're listening. But so tell us, Jake. See, I'm smart enough to know to call you Jake because you are a human beyond Degrassi here. But what character did you play on The Next Generation? I played Toby Isaacs, your computer guy, as it were. Because you look smart. They put glasses on me to make the illusion. And obviously I need to know, how did you get this gig was there like a casting call and you just went out for it like how do you get the gig of tozy toby isaacs uh yeah it was like

pretty standard auditioning i as we'd said i've been working since i was five so i had an agent and everything and it was just kind of another audition i guess and. And like, I knew of Degrassi, but it wasn't, I was kind of in that age group where I like just missed it, I think. Yeah. 88. Yeah. You would have, I think you might've been a bit young for the original Degrassi. So I knew of it, but I wasn't, it didn't really dawn on me what it was until we were kind of in it. But you landed this one.

But is it true that you actually were going for a different role on Degrassi? Is that right? Kind of. I auditioned for two. Okay. I auditioned for both the one I got and the JT role that Ryan Cooley played. Now, I got a question because I do listen to Columbia.

That's okay. Cause I listened to Columbia house party. So, and now that we finally are meeting and I'm chatting with you, uh, when you're on to grass, you, the next generation,

your voice doesn't sound like this, right? Like, like, no, uh, well, I was 12 when I started.

So, but how do you, how I am asking, because every time I have a guest on who sounds like you, they tell me, Oh, it's because they started smoking cigarettes and drinking whiskey when they were like eight years old or whatever i think i was 14 because i like i mean i'm jealous i'm sitting here but

i wish i sounded like you you've got this natural husk to your voice yeah unless you're under the weather or something maybe no i feel fine okay because. You've got a, yeah, there's a huskiness to your voice, which I think sounds pretty damn cool. I appreciate that. I hate my voice. I'm glad to hear someone else like someone else. It could be worse, man. You could have my voice. Okay. See, I like your voice. You've got that great host voice. Blake has it too. It's just like a good, like solid host. I think it's one of those grasses, always greener things. Everybody hates their voice and wishes they had the other person's voice.

It's because everyone's voice sounds different, like to themselves. And then you hear it and you're like, Oh, that sucks. Yeah. But because I do this podcast for been doing this for 10 years and I make myself,

at least I don't do it so much anymore, but I used to make myself listen back so I could hear how terrible I was so I could get better. I don't do that. That's very smart. Yes. And then that's, thank you. Because I was like, you know why? Cause you're an actor. I'm who am I? Like I suck. I got to get better at this. Don't, don't kid yourself. I suck too. It's fine. But because I listened back hundreds of times and some of these episodes would be really long i've heard my voice so much that it's almost like uh i heard it enough now that i don't hate it like it's like i had to i listened to it so much i stopped hating my voice i haven't hated my voice

in quite some time actually that's good i wish i had like i obviously see myself on tape and hear myself sometimes but i but it's been 32 years and I'm still not used to it. I don't know why. I'm just like, ah. I think, yeah, well, again, I'm just one mere mortal here speaking, but you have what Jeff Woods

got from drinking the whiskey and smoking, you know, a pack of cigarettes a day since he was eight years old. And if you have this naturally, then you are truly, not only were you born on 888, you are truly blessed.

Well, it's maybe half naturally, let's say. You're not putting it on, are you? Like if you were talking to your wife, you're married now, right? I am, yes. Congratulations. Thank you. When you guys are in private,

you sound like me, like this is no more husk, you just sound normal. Yeah, in my day-to-day life, it's like three octaves higher. I sound like I did when I no more husky just sound normal yeah in my day-to-day life it's like three octaves higher i sound like i did when i was 12 is really the the gag and just still going out for those uh roles i guess yeah that's right you shave the beard and i mean maybe not those roles but i think it what's the um uh roger rabbit when the the short at the beginning with the old guy who plays the baby?

Oh, yeah. I mean, there's worse things to be. It's a paying gig, right? Absolutely, yeah. Bigger scampi choosers here. Okay, so we got you now. You're Toby Isaacs on Degrassi, The Next Generation.

Maybe, you know, I know you get asked a lot about Degrassi, but I'm just curious how the experience was because this much like the OG Degrassi that I grew up loving, this is a popular show and has brought you some great attention and fame. I would think. Yeah. I mean, like the experience of doing it was great. Like I used to call it TV camp because like we filmed in the summers mostly

and we were you know kids literally children right and you just like kind of went to work with your friends it was the the experience maybe of being on television at that age isn't necessarily as fun but uh like is that because and I'm again I'm gonna guess I how would I know I haven't been on any television fun but uh like is that because and i'm again i'm gonna guess i how would i know i haven't been on any television show but uh do the maybe the kids in your real in your school do the kids maybe give you a hard time because you're on the television or i wouldn't say so much it was a hard time it was more just like it children shouldn't be put through television without therapy as well interesting i would say

could you elaborate because i'm uh i'm curious say again oh if i'm asking if you could elaborate on that a little bit yeah i mean like for us we were sort of the first cohort of like being on tv with the internet and social media being a thing. So like message boards and people's online anonymous opinions and things, that's a tough thing to experience when you're 12. I think it's not even the positive because I'm not trying to say it was all negative because it wasn't, but just the, and I can't speak for everyone, but like I have always been very uncomfortable with like the attention side of it is this something like like uh for maybe somebody will make a comment on some

anonymous board or you let your chubby or something like that like yeah that's exactly what it is and you know that's the kind of thing especially for, who I guess the nice way to put it is a character actor. That's fine for me now. And I'm happy and married and pretty secure in who I am. But when I'm 13 and you're like the, you know, I played the nerd who didn't have girlfriends kind of guy. And that's tough at 13. And you're right. And it's nowhere to hide because you're, it's, you're, you're in a, especially the age of social media. You're exactly right.

I can imagine it's tough for, for, for a kid that age to kind of go through that. Like, it's like, it's like you're going through puberty in public. That's exactly how I phrase it. That's exactly what it is. You literally go through pre-ready which is like the worst time to be looked at by anybody and then you're doing it on television were you a tight-knit cast like uh were you you were pretty close with your uh co-workers there yeah i've been asked that before and people always think I'm just like giving the PR answer. But like we got very lucky, I think.

There's like there's always, you know, it's actors who are an inherently dramatic group. Right. And we got pretty lucky that I don't know if it's because we were so young or like the Canadian aspect of it. So like it's just like ingrained a little different in us, but we were very close and we all pretty much like for the most part, got along and well too, which was important. No, that's good to hear.

Now, again, back to the, the OG Degrassi had a beloved character who was, was actually made an appearance. I believe one or two appearances on your version of Degrassi, I believe. But I'm speaking of Wheels.

And the tragic end of Wheels, of course, dies way too soon and then to... I don't even know how you can make that any worse because that's tragic unto itself. But we learn of his passing, I think, five years after he was gone like it was just and i was reading the other well i didn't read the other day but when it happened i was reading

about uh jamil french i hope i said that right yeah jamil and could you share maybe a little bit because uh there's there's maybe that's the only maybe that's your only cast member who's passed away at this point but yeah jameel was on uh after my time so i only met him a few times uh so i didn't know him well but i had have friends who were on after you were very close with him and that was yeah that was a real shocker he was an insanely nice kid just like i only met i haven't seen him in years but i remember when they were shooting i guess their generation i'd meet up with people he'd be around and he was very nice okay this is where i sound like some some out of out to lunch old man here but uh okay so there's my digress okay then there's the one i talked about because uh spike had a baby and allison is that who's the one I talked about because Spike had a baby. And Allison, who's the name of the... Emma.

Emma, okay. Emma. So Emma is the baby of Shane and Spike. Emma's stepdad, of course, is Snake, who is your teacher and then maybe a principal at some point. Some sort of authority figure. And, of course, this is the cast with Drake, for example. Yes.

Aubrey Graham is on this, is one of your colleagues. Yes, he is. Was. Right. Well, don't worry, I got another, I got a song from him I'm going to play and ask you about soon. But then there's another generation after yours. Yeah, it ran for, I want to say 14 seasons. Really?

I'm so stupid. Okay. Yeah, I want to say 14 seasons. Really? I'm so stupid. Okay. Yeah. I left after season seven. Okay. So there was like, I think there were two generations after me. So does the character Emma has nothing to do with these generations after yours that we're talking about? I think she stuck around for a bit longer than me, but not, but they like, you know, it's a high school show. That's the beauty of a high school show.

You can just kind of reset it every few years. Sure. Right. Right. And okay. Your show is a CTV show. So, uh, but are these subsequent generations, are they also like bell media CTV properties or were they somewhere else? No, I don't, I'm not sure about the one right after me. I know the last one was Netflix. So you didn't realize you were coming on just to be my Degrassi historian here, because I actually, for some reason, I knew about The Next Generation. That's yours. And I had...

You're really pushing up against what I know. This is about the end of it. This is where we find exactly how much does Jake Goldsby know about his franchise that he... Jockingly little. find exactly how much does jake goldsby know about his franchise that he's talking all right so let me play i mentioned uh aubrey graham uh who we might most people in fact everyone else knows better as drake here i'm just gonna say you might know him as a guy named drake i'm just gonna play play a song just to see if it gets like this blocked by uh spotify or something i'm gonna play a bit of his music and then I'm going to ask you about this video.

So here's a little Drake. Yeah. I'm working on time. I'm upset. 50,000 on my head is disrespect. So offended that I had to double check I'ma always take the money over sex That's why they need me out the way what you expect Got a lot of blood and it's cold They keep trying to get me for my soul

Thankful for the women that I know can't go 50 50 with no hope every month i'll bring her down but basically uh drake is upset that's what's important here he's upset you're in this video i am i need to know, so what? Do you get a call from Drake himself? Like who called you up and said, like, how did this happen? Tell me. I got a text from Ian Christensen, who was the publicity guy for Degrassi.

And I was just like sitting on my couch one day and I got a text from Ian and he was like, hey, are you available next week cool thing happening and i was like what does that mean and he was just like i'll send you an email uh or send your agent email i forget how it got through the channels and then and then that was kind of it i was like okay and i kind of guessed it was drake adjacent i didn't know i didn't know it's gonna be a video i thought maybe it was just like he wanted to have like a dinner reunion or something uh but there was no reason for it to be cryptic other than something involving him because he's so

famous that like that's just how that world works and you're a sharp knife you've been around the you've been around you've been around long enough but did they say like you had to be available was this going to happen whatever this was going to be was it going to happen in toronto yeah we shot it at the old studio the old sets uh where we shot Grassy, which was cool, but extremely weird. Well, why was it weird? Because are there people you're now seeing for the first time in many, many years? Yeah. And like, you know, I went to actual high school, but in a lot of ways, this was sort of like it was also my high school, even though it was on TV. And so these people were my high school peers. And some of them I'm still very close with, so some I see all the time.

But there was a good handful that I hadn't seen in, I mean, I left in 2007. So some I hadn't seen in 11, 12 years. Right. So like some I hadn't seen in 11, 12 years. Right. And then we were also filming it on the same sets, which we hadn't been on in 11 years. So it was just like the first thing we did when we got there is we had dinner because it was a night shoot.

So we had dinner and we got there. And when we were shooting the show, lunch was always in like the cafeteria set. Cause it's just an easy place to hold everybody. Makes sense to me. But then the first thing we did when we're there to shoot literally a Drake video with all these people that we haven't seen was to have dinner in the cafeteria.

And it was just like, it wasn't, it was weird but it was it was really fucking weird what kind of food because i'm guessing uh this would be something i would guess it would be decent food considering yeah it was like uh standard catered uh film set food which is always good like it's not uh but it was it was honestly like i was i honestly i couldn't even tell you what the food was i was my mind was elsewhere i would say so let's talk about drake for a moment uh did you have any contact with drake after you wrapped on degrassi the next generation no he because his sort of i guess breakout was right because we we finished on

the show at the same time right we both we both left after season seven i moved to montreal to go to school and then he became the most famous person on the planet i'm trying to think of when he kind of broke through to the mainstream but i feel like it was oh nine maybe or am i oh eight i think wait maybe okay it was it was definitely really early of me being in school right and so yeah go ahead we lost contact not from any bad blood but because he became the most person on the planet like immediately well what's that like like what is it like when you know him there's aubrey because i'm guessing you knew him as aubrey yep and you're oh aubrey's on i don't know you're in montreal so this this won't work but my audrey's on flow 93.5 or whatever and next oh aubrey's on much and then all of a sudden it's like oh wait a minute like aubrey's on mtv and the americans

are playing on brie and next thing you know, he's got a top 40 hit or whatever. And eventually a top 10 and then a number one, like that progression as he becomes like, cause I know I spent a lot of time in Germany for a while. Cause I worked for a German software company and I'd be in Frankfurt and they'd be talking about Drake. And then I would be like, you know, he's from Toronto, like me. And they would, their minds would blow up. Cause they just assume he's an like, you know, he's from Toronto, like me. And they would, their minds would blow up because they just assume he's an American. And they know, but he's the biggest thing going on in Frankfurt. And they think he's an American.

And then I blow their mind and say he's actually like from my town, town of Toronto. And so I can tell you this is a global guy, like a huge hit maker globally. What's it like to say, hey, there's Aubrey. And we used to like have food in the cafeteria together it's really weird i won't lie and i can't remember i want to say his like first big one was best i ever had that's the first one i remember that's first one i remember as well and i remember when that came out and it wasn't weird that he was doing it because he was always interested in music right it wasn't even that weird that he got successful at it the weird one for me was when like i was

20 years old at university and i'm like at the campus bar and then like the guy i was working with a year ago is like the hot club track yeah and that was the first one i was like oh that's okay that's a little strange and so it's weird in the sense that like i don't it's just it's a universe like he's so famous that it's a you it's a different universe of existence and so it's hard it's like i have to associate him in two different ways in my brain right and not because of any attitude change like when we did the video he was super great to us and very much his old self good uh but it's still like and so like in those moments you're like oh it's aub those moments, you're like, oh, it's Aubrey. But then you have to kind of disassociate that and be like, no, it's Drake, the most famous man on the planet. And then when you see him like in his videos or on stage, you're like, oh, right.

It's just like, it's an odd thing, but it's also been so long now. Like now it's been longer that he's been Drake than he was on Degrassi now. So now it's just kind of like the reality. Now it's just like any of us. It's a guy I knew in high school. became famous as Drake, even though his name as an actor on Degrassi was Aubrey Graham. So for you, there's Aubrey and there's Drake, really. Yeah. It's the same guy, but it's almost like this is a persona now where you share this Drake guy with the galaxy,

at least with the planet Earth. I think that's fair. I think that's a good way to look at it. I mean, fame is interesting in itself because you're famous, but there's different... I know, you know famous you know like there's different so because i you know uh we have discussions on toronto mic all the time about like uh what like i always talk about toronto famous okay so there's toronto famous and there's canada famous and there's north american famous and there's world famous and there's different levels there in right but so yeah so you you you know there's a certain uh cohort of people who grew up watching

your television show every week and loving your show and knowing the characters that you are famous to those people and there's lots of them yeah but like it's just another stratosphere. Like it's a kind of, it's a world that personally I wouldn't want to be in, but I get it. But I don't, if that makes sense. And I think that's what's, it's so incomprehensible to me, that level of fame that it might as well not. It's like when you talk about billionaires, like it's so much money that it might as well not it's like when you talk about billionaires like it's so much money that it might as well not exist right because yeah it's hard to compute and then that level of fame drake has and and you know he's a handful of people that famous really

like it's a small club of people as famous as uh drake uh and you say you wouldn't want that uh and is that because uh you can say goodbye to any semblance of privacy? Yeah. That's, that's a big part of it. I also, I, like I said earlier,

like I've always been really uncomfortable with that kind of stuff. I don't totally, like, I don't know if I had played like the cool guy, if my opinion would have been shaped differently of that, but it's also just like, not for me, like the, I don't think it all necessarily aligns with my views on things. And it's just like, I don't know. I like,

I want to just go to a concert or a baseball game and just like hang out at sneaky D's or something. I hear you. If, if, is that moving out at sneaky d's or something i hear you uh if if is that moving like sneaky d's don't know yet right don't know yet okay hopefully not right i heard uh some rumors of a potential condo development uh there but we'll i'll chain myself to the doors i'll cover it if you do that because i think that's it's an old like it's an old redwood i i just revisited the simpsons episode uh the funny thing is the guy was played by another child actor if you will but a canadian who was in um hold on i'll get this right dawson's creek the guy who

played pacey oh yeah joshua jackson yes okay of course he voices this guy who gets Lisa to live in a redwood so that they can't... That's right. Anyway, it's funny. Anyway, I was just thinking of this. So if you change yourself to the Sneaky Ds... I mean, one of my favorite bands is Lowest of the Low. In fact, I'm going to close this episode with a song

like I do every episode. And they spend a lot of time playing uh sneaky d's it's uh one of those cool character spots we don't have a lot of them left yeah i was i was walking by there my wife and i walked by there the other day and we overheard some young girls kind of talking about it potentially closing and they were just like it's not even that good like it's just like a shitty dive bar and we're kind of laughing they're like yes that's exactly what it is but like there's a certain group of people that like like myself and you spent every night of your 20s at cqds it's it's it is a shitty dive bar but it's your shitty dive bar it's like those greasy spoons like i love

a good greasy spoon for brunch but i don't want them all to be... Don't make them all like Korras. I don't want them all to be Korras. I like the independent, sneaky, greasy spoon. That's kind of the whole part of the charm. It's part of what you're looking for there. Absolutely. And to your point, we're losing them by the day. We are. I did an episode with a guy who calls himself johnny dovercourt and we literally like uh we did a virtual obviously we had a virtual walk like along we did uh we did young street and we did queen and yorkville and kensington market and we just past and present music venues and what's left and what's gone and it's like i feel like if we do that again in five years it'll like like only half of them will be around. Yeah, it's kind of scary.

Yeah, for someone like me who grew up going to shows here, it's like 90% of the places that I discovered music at are gone. Yeah, no doubt. So when you do chain yourself to Sneaky D's, I'll make sure it gets lots of coverage. I appreciate that. So, okay. So there's a tweet you did in Februarybruary that's how you say that my twitter actually i didn't i don't

i didn't read your twitter uh a degrassi there's a degrassi wikipedia like it's like degrassi wiki or something sure that's like they're reading your twitter and i'm reading them okay i feel like that's less horrifying creepy or whatever but no one should read my twitter but then again you did press tweet on something you knew was rather rather public forum so it's not like i hacked into your gmail or something like i guess that's my fault uh you hinted that jake epstein was uh the only degrassi alum alum who still called you regularly yeah Yeah, Jake just doesn't like texting. And for some reason

he just calls me all the time. Okay, so you mean literally like phone, like he phones you like, hey Jake, how's it going? Yeah, he's the kind of person who will phone you out of the blue. And you're just like, why are you doing this? It's 2021, man. I got a few friends like that who still phone. It's kind of charming.

I don't mind every now and then but just like give me some warning i just like busting jake's chops it's fun okay and you're jake i feel like how it sounds like you're pretty tight with this jake like is it because you're both jake so you had to kind of dig each other or what that's like kind of um he we like knew a lot of the we were kind of both in that toronto child actor world so like we kind of knew each other but not really right and then yeah both being named jake and we both just kind of we we found each other sort of as allies in the sense that we were both made very uncomfortable by exactly what we're just talking about and he's learning that i had sort of like an someone who was also like oh i don't know if i want to talk about this all the time was kind of was it was useful at that age especially when you're too young to really

understand why you're feeling certain things. Right. So we bonded very young. We were actually talking to each other today. We were at a movie or something, and we both got recognized, and we were both very uncomfortable about it. And it was kind of like, oh, you also don't love that.

That's interesting. But again, if you were playing like the, uh, like Pacey's character, Jake, Jake kind of did. Okay. So is he GT?

What's, what's his character's name? Okay. He was Craig. Okay. And that's a, like a jock. Like,

is he a handsome guy or a cool guy? Yeah. He was like the, the brooding handsome musician. And he doesn't like it. Cause I feel like maybe if you were playing that guy, you wouldn't mind being recognized so much it's just i mean i definitely thought that at the time but looking back on it and kind of talking to jake about sort of his side of it

right uh it's it was an we had a really interesting conversation a few weeks ago about that about just like leaving like man i wanted to be like your character he was like no you didn't and he's like i want to be yours i'm like no you didn't it's fascinating we wonder why so many of our child actors end up a little fucked up like it's a dynamic yeah i i feel like like i made a joke earlier about like you if you're a child actor you should be in therapy but it's also not a joke right like i it should be like they should update the union bylaws that like if you they should provide like therapy for child actors because it it fucked you up and like it's weird too like me, there wasn't like any big inciting incidents or anything terrible that happened to me. Right.

It just like messes you up in ways you don't realize until you go to therapy. And then you're like, oh, that's why I'm kind of a dick. wiki about your 8888 birth date so i know i know your age here so as we speak now though would you consider yourself that you've come through it pretty unscathed and that you're a fairly well adjusted uh married man in his 30s i don't know if i'd say unscathed but i'd agree with the i'm definitely i definitely like myself a lot more than i used to and again that's just like maturing and getting older and doing a lot of therapy okay so i need to talk columbia uh house party here but uh first i noticed because i have a buddy whose name is dan duran he's uh that's a good name yeah dan duran it's not his real name by the way he's uh dan something else a german name i think uh and he turned it into dan duran but he's uh no one too

many because he would he was on the radio and yeah it was on e now anyways he's a kind of a so he also played like the sportscaster in uh molly's game so i was just i had just be i said oh jake goldsby's coming on i just got a peek at this guy's imdb page or whatever and i'm like hey jake was Molly's game too so which I by the way I saw it I quite liked Molly's game yeah it was fun that was like that was a the big like size wise the biggest thing I've ever done I think

even though it was like two days and like three scenes kind of thing but big stars big budget it's a big deal yeah it was cool like to it was the first also like the first major thing I left the industry for years and the first also like the first major thing i left the industry for years and then it was like the first major thing i did and you just auditioned and got it is that how that worked yeah pretty much uh the second audition was pretty nerve-wracking

just like having to do it for like the callback and like it's an aaron sorkin thing right i'm white and i have a beard and i'm 30 so when i was younger i's an aaron sorkin thing right i'm white and i have a beard and i'm 30 so when i was younger i really loved aaron sorkin and then the west wing sure yeah exactly so it was just like it was dude i still love the west wing like during all these terrible trump years i fantasized the bartlett was my was the president of the united states like that i loved i loved the West Wing. I think a lot of people did. I don't know how it's aging. I think it's aging okay.

I revisited it. I think it's aging okay. I haven't seen it in a long time. He kept his MS. Remember that. That's right. That was the big scandal. But yeah, it was cool. That was a cool, that was a fun few days. But Molly's game now, that a several years ago like um is did did it give you like did it scratch the

itch and that made you want to do more acting again or did it just sort of like you said no so i left when i went to school i was kind of like i'm done with this okay uh and then i went to school for writing and then i worked as a sports writer for three years hilariously at the score at the score cool uh which like it's so funny to me that someone paid me to write about sports um because you're not a sports guy what you're not a sports fan oh no i'm a huge sports guy i'm just dumb okay gotcha that makes two of us okay uh and then i was kind of in that like mid-20s what am i doing with my life kind of thing like the job at the score changed a little bit to something that i wasn't into and i was like what am i gonna do and so i made the very financially sound decision to

try and be an actor as an adult uh and so i i guess i've been doing it again now for six years or so seven years and are you getting like regular gigs you getting any ad work like are you showing up in any ads no uh auditioning trying apparently people in the acting world don't care that you're on television as a 12 year old when you're 32 well you know okay i mentioned stew stone so you know because i i've literally spent a few hours every week, either in my backyard or via zoom, like for the last 55 weeks. Okay.

So I feel, I feel like I know him better than I know members of my own family. Like I know Stu well now. And Stu, we hit a point now he's like, I said, he's a little older than you. He's between us in age.

And we're basically now he makes his own shit. Like basically, so he, he makes his own shit. Like basically, so he, he makes his own movies now and things. I'm starting to think that's the, that's the way. Cause like, it's tough.

It's like, it's a hard, especially starting from kind of basically, it's been really interesting kind of starting from scratch again as an adult, but it's, it's tough. It's a tough,

I can imagine. It's a tough go. And by the way, Stu Stone is as real a name as dan duran that's true both good names though that's right yeah they both have that alliteration going on okay actually here okay so here's a moment uh we're going to talk columbia house party and with your friend blake murphy and we're going to chat about some music you love i pulled at least one jam that i know you dig and we're going to talk about some music you love. I pulled at least one jam that I know you dig, and we're going to talk about that.

But I want to let you know that if you were in my backyard, like Blake was, and hopefully one day you will be back there, I would give you fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. I do love Great Lakes Brewery. I ordered an order from them a couple weeks ago, actually. And you're in the GTA, right? I am indeed. So free delivery.

I know. That's a very good integrated ad yeah well because it's not it's yeah press play well done uh delicious i mean they've been great supporters for years so shout out to great lakes they've been wonderful supporters of the program i would also get you a frozen lasagna from palma pasta they're in mississauga and oakville uh so hopefully one day you are in my backyard. I've got Toronto Mike stickers for you from Sticker You. All this wonderful stuff your buddy Blake got.

But one day you'll get it too. Blake did mention the Fresno lasagna. Did he mention if he enjoyed it? He didn't, but he didn't say he didn't. He said he got it. He was going to clarify. He was like, he gave me a lasagna. I was like, that's cool. He was like, I went to this guy's backyard and we talked and he gave me beer and lasagna.

And we don't give people shit. So it's better that you do something. Who would I have on? Tom Wilson. He's from Junk House. And he says he does all this shit with the CBC. He does a lot of stuff with the CBC. And he said they don't give him anything.

He was so excited to get like, and he doesn't drink. So he actually did not partake in the beer because tom wilson is a recovering alcoholic but he was so excited to have the lasagna it was like i gave him like a million dollars he was just tickled pink here so who doesn't love a lasagna so shout out to sticker you you get stickers from them if anyone listening is responsible for a computer network. Consider outsourcing your IT to the specialists, the experts at CDN Technology. Barb is the CEO, Barb Paluskowicz. It's spelled exactly like it sounds.

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fuel the real talk we have on this program. Jake, how long have you known Blake? Oh, boy. I have known Blake since 2015, I guess. Which you say that like it's 35 or 40 years.

And then my brain tells me that's like six years. I mean, this last year feels long enough. So let alone the last six. Yeah, he, Blake and I sort of barely knew each other through like Toronto sports Twitter for a bit. And then he started working at the score right when I was leaving. And then we kind of became buds just by running into each other at bars

through mutual friends and we'd drink and yell at each other about music. And that's kind of how we became friends. Well, that'll do it. Right. So you become friends who enjoy some of the same music and you might bump into each other at different concerts. He guested a lot on the sports podcast that I co-host because he's the one who knows things. So he would come on and tell us what we should think about. I should just tell people, Blake Murphy, if you don't know who he is, pause this podcast episode and go listen to Blake Murphy on Toronto Mic. He works for The Athletic now and he covers the Toronto Raptors, which I'm thinking in 2019, that was a whole lot of fun. I would think to be surrounded by that team at that time, I think would be kind of amazing.

I would think so. Certainly fun for the rest of us. Yeah, wow, what a time, eh? Unbelievable. And I feel like we got lucky because we won it in 2019 instead of 2020 with the whole, you know. Yeah, I think about that a lot, especially that one too,

because it was so like, so much of the story was sort of the community aspect of the watch parties in Mississauga and like, so cool. Yeah, and we all got to kind of and i don't know if you part took in the the parade but i was for sure there on the at least i was on the uh the uh like the what do you call the lakeshore side when they come out seems like the smart place it's true me and my buddy hebsey biked over uh on the and we we got

that part which was amazing great photos right there was amazing and then i heard about the nightmare happening on the other end of the uh the the parade but but you're you know like totally like that magic of all that kind of transpiring for this for the city and all that happened just under i feel like that happened under the wire and it wouldn't have been the same if it happened, you know, one or two years later. It had to happen then. Yeah, I agree. And who knows if that kind of thing can happen again?

Yeah. Hopefully. Well, Texas, as we speak, it might be over now. I know. I was watching that before. Just a terrible nightmare. That's what it seems like. But they're outdoors. And I'm not a doctor. Everyone knows that. Just a terrible nightmare. But it seems like,

but they're outdoors. Like, and I'm not a doctor. Everyone knows that, but I do think, uh, at least they're outside. Like I know that it doesn't quite each other and not wearing masks and it's Texas,

but the Raptors play indoors. Like who knows when you can. Yeah, truly do that again. Okay. So, uh, when did you and Blake,

uh, have conversations about starting a podcast together about music? I guess it would have been like summer, I guess in 2019, summer of 2019. So go ahead. I can't remember how it sort of started. I think I was just getting drunk with my wife in a bar and we were just talking about things we should do or talking about Blake because we love to talk about Blake because we love Blake so much. And then it was just kind of one of those like, maybe this is an idea kind of thing. Who came up with the name Columbia House Party? That was Blake on the spot. We were brainstorming it and I know it. I'm shit

at titles for things. Blake was just like, how about this? I was like, man, you're very smart. No, it is a very clever title. He's just much smarter than me. Kudos to Blake. It was good. It was very good. Did you always know that you wanted it to be

where each episode was going to center around one album? Did it have to be like a... I know that you aren it to be where each each episode was going to center around one album and did it have to be like a and i know that you aren't quite like holding yourself to this uh but was the idea that it would be an album that you ordered through columbia house no okay no the name has nothing to do with all right because maybe i took that too far i just envisioned like this is an album i got through the columbia house uh no it really started through us arguing on in person and on twitter about like alkaline trio album rankings or blinkway two album rankings so it was always going to be like sort of pop punk and emo centric which because that's just what we like the most. And then it kind of went from there.

And do you know offhand how many albums are in the feed at this point? I believe today's was 73. Okay, so you're catching up, buddy. We are, though we did announce today that we're actually winding down this month. See, I haven't heard today's episode. It's in my podcast addict. I saw the prompt earlier today, but I haven't heard today's episode. It's in my podcast addict. I saw the prompt earlier today, but I haven't got to it yet. So back up the truck here.

Why are you winding down Columbia House Party? It's a lot of work. I know, I know. It's the honest answer. We both have jobs and projects that aren't that. Blake is also the hardest working man in showbiz. So he, uh, it's just,

it wasn't time wise and everything wise. It just kind of wasn't, uh, okay. But the hard part is done in that you've got, um, subscribers and fans subscribed. Why not just say,

okay, we drop a new episode once a month. That's a good question. Because the only, there's only thing i say but the wonderful thing about podcasts the frequency and the length uh the only rules or whatever you decide are your own rules like yeah and we're also not saying it's like done forever kind of thing but uh indefinite hiatus we're using the band terminology yes okay sort of yeah right like okay i know we'll do the lcd sound system and come back in like two years i was thinking you're like yeah hey rosetta

i guess you're just you're gonna just do your own thing and then we'll see what happens at some point okay so i'm disappointed to hear this but uh it makes sense to me uh when i and is your model that you only get the ads if you're a cheap bastard who's not paying for like if you the free that's correct okay yeah because i can share this with you now i'll just tell you as a listener i i guess i don't know if you know this is coming but i listen on a bike ride right so i don't like i'm listening on a bike all here the same fucking ad three times in a row yeah it's like a go ahead uh what's it called it's just like a a role or whatever that's called yeah it's not like but don't they have the i mean and again uh i'm not

i mean i could pay i'm sure and this is again this is i'm not going to but i actually don't mind ads i just dropped a bunch i don't know if you noticed okay that was very smooth i'm all although i like live reads i don't like the pre-rolls, but okay. I, the whole idea of the exact same inane pre-recorded ad over and over again. Sometimes I want to like reach in my pocket and throw my phone into the Humber River. Like I had- Yeah, I don't know.

Gotta blame the algorithms for that. I truly don't know how it works. Is my, my, my answer is that I'm not involved in that. But those pre-rolls aren't making you so wealthy you couldn't imagine uh going on hiatus no they're not i'm getting beer from it i'll take care of you though buddy i will great i will at some point we'll figure it out and to safely get you some some beer just for this wonderful appearance here today. Okay, so... Okay, I've been hit with this big brick.

I've been hit with this. I'm still processing it, Jake, here. I was debating whether or not I was going to... I'm glad you did. Go on as planned. You were probably feeling me out, does he know or not? Yes, I was a little bit.

And you're like, oh, he doesn't know. Well, it did just come up today so right right i grant you the timing okay what are what other projects are you working on that are taking your attention away from this uh delightful podcast you created well i co-host another podcast called sportsfeld with uh my friend andrew z. It's Toronto sports, mostly baseball, some other stuff. Raptors when Blake comes to tell us what to think. Other than that, I have like a normal full-time job

that I do from home kind of thing. I'm still auditioning. Hopefully not futilely. Writing some stuff. Hopefully stuff that might maybe turn into something, maybe won't. Honestly, at this point, I'm just, we're all just kind of waiting at this point, I think, but trying to keep myself busy.

Well, it's been a fucked up year. It has been a fucked up year. Big time. I do want to introduce you at some point, somehow, maybe virtually introduce you to stew stone just because you kind of are in the same world and uh he's always out there with the latest latest project and in getting uh people to he did something with oh crap david kine what's the name of the um what's the name of this oh i can't believe i can't remember i'm not pulling out the name of this place there's like a station that airs like older movies and newer movies and he had a deal with them

and i can't believe it's not coming to me off the top of my head i was kind of hoping you just like spit it out right now and save me from this but i'm gonna move on okay so what i'm gonna do here is i'm gonna play a little bit of a song that you love and we'll consider this like obviously you're not here to kick out the jams but at some point I hope you'll come back and kick out the jams of me. I don't even know if you know what that means. I mean, I get the reference. I'm not sure what it means in this context.

In this context, guests, their second appearance on Toronto, Mike, we play their 10 favorite songs of all time. And then you tell us like what that song means to you. Why do you love it? Essentially. Oh, see now I wish we had just done that but that's the second appearance we had to go through the degrassi bullshit first like you can't you know and then find out how many years

columbia house party would run only to find out like what time is it now it's almost over but so let me start this jam and then we'll just chat about this one jam and then at some point you will return hopefully uh we're like vaccinated and you can actually do it in person or something, but let's, let's listen to this one. Her parents never hallelujahed the kids that called her Holly And if she's scared of you then she's sorry, she's been stranded at these parties And these parties, they start lovely, but they get druggy and they get ugly and they get bloody the priest just kinda

laughed, the deacon caught a draft she crashed into the Easter Mass with her hair done up and broken glass, she was limping left on broken heels and she said, Father, can I tell your congregation how a resurrection really feels? Oh, it was a hood rock

And now you finally know that And she's been disappeared for years Today she finally came back I was enjoying that. Okay, good stuff, buddy. The Hold Steady. Yes. So give us a little teaser. At some point, you'll come back and kind of do 10 jams proper.

But tell us why you love this jam, how a resurrection really feels. I mean, it's kind of the simplest answer. It's my favorite song by my favorite band, kind of thing. As I mentioned before, as you can see, I'm 32 and white and have a beard, so I am honor bound to like the Hold Steady. But i got into the steady in high school and i grew up in a big springsteen household and so when i first heard hold steady it was kind of like it was basically a combination of all the bands that the older bands that i loved with like newer stuff like they are like they are just kind of the replacements in springsteen slammed together which when i heard i was like oh my god kind of the replacements and springsteen slammed together

which when i heard i was like oh my god this is the best band i've ever heard and they've just they've been my favorite band now for 15 16 years maybe do people who listen to your podcast with blake just assume that your favorite band is blink 182 no i think we're pretty honest about our our conflicted feelings about like way too i do love like i do love like of course because i i am that generation but i love them in a different way and uh you've seen the hold steady live i take it many times do you ever see because you're a sports fan so like do you ever you ever had the hold steady live i take it many times do you ever see because you're a sports fan so like do you ever you ever had a hold steady gig and you see oh there's dave hodge yeah he uh when they played uh turf the toronto urban roots festival that sadly doesn't exist anymore uh i

saw he introduced them right uh at the festival and i've and i feel like he introduced them at the festival. And I feel like he introduced them. I feel like I've seen him introduce them twice. He's a huge fan like yourself, but he's got a couple of years on you himself. He does. I love Dave Hodge though. He's one of the great. Well, dude, if you ever want to get a taste

of what the hell is Mike talking about with this kick out the jams nonsense, go in the Toronto Mike feed. Dave Hodge, not only did he kick out the jams nonsense go in the toronto mic feed dave hodge not only did he kick out the jams but he's come back every year to kick out his 100 favorite songs of the calendar year that's amazing i love that as someone who also makes a big list every year yeah i uh i sympathize with that i literally i'm carrying this torch in this man, uh, because, uh, the late great, uh,

Dave Bookman used to, when he used to write an I, I weekly, was it I weekly? Yeah. And I, I weekly, he would put,

you know, Hodges top 100 or whatever. He'd publish it. And, uh, now I basically take care of the Hodge 100 on, uh, Toronto,

Mike.com. That's awesome. That's like, that's like Toronto music, like real Toronto music, like opinion history.com. That's awesome. That's like Toronto music, like real Toronto music, like opinion history. Oh yeah, no doubt. So you're,

you got to come in the club. I think there's been about 70 or 75 different jam kickers so far. But my last guest, again, speaking of the Blue Jays, who I'm going to assume won, it was four to one when I stopped watching.

Yeah, they were winning when I stopped watching. I'll they were winning when I stopped watching. I'll check. Yeah, check that out. But the last... They're 6-2 in the bottom. Okay, yeah. No worries there.

But my last guest was Mike Wilner who also... Of course. ...was one of the first, if not the first, jam kicker when I started doing those jam kicker episodes. No way.

We miss Wilner on the radio, that's for sure. Yeah, he's got a podcast now, too. I was actually checking out the first episode of his podcast because he's a friend and I love the Jays. I want to hear it. But what he does is he... I kind of want to hear Wilner just talk about the Jays and do

some analysis. I just want to hear that. Instead, he kind of does an interview. He'll do an interview. He did an interview with the guy from Markham, the relief pitcher from Markham. Oh. That guy. Which is fine. he'll do an interview. He did an interview with the, the guy from Markham, the, the relief pitcher for Markham. Oh, that guy. Yeah. Which is fine.

And he's, but that guy does not actually what I'm looking for. My bike rides. Like I'm not looking for like a half an hour with that guy, but that's, this is my two cents. I want to clarify that I couldn't come up with a name earlier and I was, it was going to haunt me.

Like I wasn't going to be able to sleep tonight. David Kynes, who is coming on toronto mic in a couple of weeks he's the president and co-founder of hollywood suite oh yeah that's i've seen that uh on one of the many streaming things i think prime maybe prime yeah but so they i'm just no no so that's why at some point I want to introduce you to Stu Stone. Maybe there's some synergies or whatever because he had a deal with Hollywood Sweets or whatever. And I just think you guys will dig each other.

And Jake, I'll just say good luck with everything, the unspoken thing that pays your mortgage or your rent or whatever. Rent. Oh, I live in Toronto, so it's rent. It's rent. It depends when you bought. You're too young to have bought in time. That's it. And don't get divorced.

It really screws up the home ownership dreams too. Oh, yeah. I feel like all bigger problems. It's happening. But thanks for the chatter about Degrassi. And I'm very interested in I'm sad it's ending but I'll be listening to hear how Columbia House Party ends.

Yeah, we have a fun last couple ideas that I will not spoil. And of course you'll be back at some point. I'm actually starting my in-backyard so from 10 or 15 feet away I record in the backyard. Very safe. But I have one tomorrow. It starting my in-backyard. So from 10 or 15 feet away, I record in the backyard. Very safe.

But I have one tomorrow. It's my first one since December. Right. I guess weather-wise, we're getting there. We're getting there. So at some point, maybe this summer, I'll get you to visit the backyard and kick out the jams with me. Sounds good. And that brings us to the end of our 830th show.

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