Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jamar McNeil Returns: Toronto Mike'd #461

Episode Date: May 8, 2019

Mike catches up with Jamar McNeil from CHUM before he kicks out the jams.

Welcome to episode 461 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Propertyinthe6.com, Palma Pasta, Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair, Camp Turnasol, StickerU.com and our newest sponsor Capadia LLP I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me is chum morning man Jamar McNeil

welcome back buddy it's great to be back Mike a little more seasoned and a little more aware I want to give you props because you held the water It's great to be back, Mike. A little more seasoned and a little more aware. I want to give you props because you held the water. You know this expression where you held the water because I was trying to get you to confess to the fact that Ashby was retiring at the end of the year.

Because John Donabee had told me, good friends of Ashby, he had told me Ashby's gone at the end of the year. You did a brilliant job of not revealing anything until the official announcement well i i just told you what i knew toronto is that right i just told you that hey you know i love working with raj and you know when he leaves is when he leaves and that's on him and you are you're the new roger of course you're jamar but uh you you you and maryland are now the uh de facto morning show team at chum de facto yeah and the jury and you're everywhere like and i'm

gonna get to this but i mean i walk the city i bike the city mainly and you're like absolutely yeah i was gonna say get on that mic let's hear it but uh you're everywhere like those billboards are plastering the city right now um a good friend of mine um hit me up on ig he's uh here based in toronto as well my boy kieran uh who's actually a videographer and a really good friend of mine he he does a lot of music video for sean paul oh yeah of course and uh kieran was like yo jamar this is of all products of all anything ofar, this is, of all products, of all anything, of all messaging, this is the greatest marketing campaign I've ever seen, ever. Because, I mean, they really did a good job. And I didn't understand how big of a campaign they were going to do.

You know, we took some pictures and they gave me the concepts. But it was everywhere. Everywhere. Is that because, maybe you know better, but Bell Media, which owns Chunk, they own these, do they own these like uh what do they call these signs like you know what these spots i'm i'm gonna sound so dumb right now but whatever i'm i'm still learning about everything that bell media owns so i don't know for sure if they own the signs maybe they do maybe they don't i just know that uh they used a ton of resources uh bus

shelters yeah uh billboards i think there was some subway stuff uh we did commercials on on television uh cp24 i mean it's everywhere i kept turning around and everywhere i'd go i'd see my face and i was like oh my face again so i know how i felt about myself i hope you guys weren't too tired of seeing me everywhere because i started to get tired of seeing me well look i got more questions about the billboard, so I'm going to let Brian ask you a question so I don't step on his toes here. Here's Brian. Hey, Brian.

Propertyinthe6.com. Hi, Jamar. Brian Gerstein here, a sales representative with PSR Brokerage and proud sponsor of Toronto Mike. Now is the time to contact me for a free home evaluation if you're considering selling your home and are looking to buy during the busy spring market, which has arrived. You can also call or text me at 416-873-0292 if you're interested in the upcoming Gallery and Mall condo redevelopment. Jamar, now that you're a celebrity and your face is splashed all over billboards in The Six, like your Make Mornings Pop one with Marilynilyn do you get people recognizing you from that

even if they're not regular listeners good question yes i do i do funny story um i was out at a spot having breakfast with my family and uh someone just looked at me it's like hey why do i know your face i was like and it's a weird feeling because then you don't want to be like, well, you, you know, it's like Troy McClure from The Simpsons. I'm Troy McClure. You might see me from such billboards as Make Mornings Pop with Marilyn. So you're just like, yeah, I'm kind of on a billboard campaign. You know, you don't want to assume.

No, but I can imagine there's a lot of people who aren't sure where they know that face from. Like sort of like almost subconsciously, like they're like, I know this face, but I can't, where is it from a tv show you know they're trying like and they're quickly trying to kind of map their mind like where do i know this face it's such a weird feeling because like there is a chance that if someone recognizes me or looks at me and say that you look familiar there's a chance that they might just think i look like someone they know right so you can't just say oh yeah you might know me from my billboards and my TV. You can't say that.

So you're just like, well, you know, possibly you've seen some billboards. You just take a shot at it without sounding too full of yourself. You know what I'm saying? No, you say, look, I'm Jamar fucking McNeil. I wish I could. No, I'm not.

In my, no, no, that's just not even me. I mean, it sounds great. I'm just not that guy. All right, I gotta, I gotta, you mentioned, you know, going out for brunch with your family. Yeah. I got to ask you.

Yeah. What's this family you speak of? Can you be more specific? Absolutely. Absolutely. It's my lovely fiance, Ronica, and my little boy, Kofi. We're a unit and he's five months old. And yeah.

And well, I was out with my mom that day too. She was in town for a couple of weeks helping us with the new baby. Okay, the new baby. A little beautiful boy by John Lennon here. I have to talk a little bit. You're so prepared, bro. Look at this. Once a month, I have Mark Weisblot in here from 1236, the newsletter.

And he's very interested in this baby. Sure, sure. So I have questions. Okay. So last time you were here, did you know you were having a baby? Absolutely, I knew I interested in this baby. Sure, sure. So I have questions. So last time you were here, did you know you were having a baby? Absolutely, I knew I was having a baby. Just checking, okay?

Or you want me to say like, nah, bro, she told me two days before. Okay, so you, okay. Right. I thought maybe two days after. Right, or two days after. That would have been even crazier. Jamar, surprise.

Yeah. Okay, so this is your girlfriend or fiance? What was her term? Yeah, they're kind of one and the same. But she has her ring and we're living together. We're moving forward in our relationship. Okay, so right off the bat, congratulations. Thank you, thank you.

I know that feeling. My firstborn was a boy. And you're king of the world, right? This is a great feeling. Great is one of the feelings. It's a lot of different feelings, Mike. It's a ton of different feelings. I'm specifically speaking to anyone who's never had a child before.

You don't. I can't really completely describe all of the feelings because it's any one of different feelings at any given time. Great is one of them. Scary. Fear is another. Sometimes it's just like of different feelings at any given time. Great is one of them. Scary. You know, fear is another. Sometimes it's just like, oh, gosh. Like, you know, because it changes your life.

Yeah, because you can't, like, party as hard. Like, is that the biggest change? Well, let's put it this way. If you do party as hard, you pay for it in other ways. Right, right. Which I do. I haven't, my partying has not pulled back at all because it's part of my persona, my personality. It's part of your brand.

It's part of my brand, yeah. That's smart. Make your brand something really fun and then you have an excuse. Mike, this was a calculated decision on my part when I was pursuing, like what am I going to do with my life? I said, okay, I'm going to just make my brand

and my business all my favorite things. No, you're genius. It's not genius. It's actually like out of necessity because there's not too much else I could have did. This is amazing. So does the baby live here with you in Toronto? Yeah. I just left him a couple of minutes ago.

Okay. Wow. You could have brought the baby. I could have, right? I have some toys upstairs, I think. Amazing. So is this, by any chance, did Bell Media ask you to procreate because it makes for,

right? You know what I'm talking about? That would have been the dopest ask ever. Hey, Jamar, we'd like you to go home and have unprotected sex with your partner.

And just, just, just shoot your shot, bro. Shoot your shot. Well, only when she's ovulating. Like they probably do the temperature check. Or they could have been like,

yo, just do it as much as possible just to kind of, Every second day, my, I was once told by uh whatever those woman doctors are i don't know yeah yeah i forget the obstetrician obgyn right right whatever that stands for right we don't need to know we just have to drop them off the appointment and pick them up pretty much but you know like on uh like family ties right they had the cute boy and he grew up it was less cute so they they introduced a new uh is that the right no there was a girl teeny others right yes wow good memory i'm sorry i'm thinking of like yeah that so the little boy was

brian boncel remember him uh-huh i think he's in jail now i'm not sure but yeah cosby show famously did this because rudy got grew up and they brought in uh they even this because Rudy grew up and they brought in... Rudy grew up and they brought in Olivia. Yeah, who... Who was Raven-Symoné. Raven-Symoné, absolutely. And they also did this on Family Matters because of the little kid, little Richie. I think he grew up, but eventually, like, maybe he left the show or something. Like, I think it was written out or something like that.

You want to hear something sad? I hate to break the mood because I got John Lennon wishing love to your boy there. Thank you, John. Yeah, props to john for submitting that to the toronto mind podcast really sad is that on married of children uh peg bundy the actress who plays peg bundy was pregnant and they introduced uh that she was pregnant in the show and they were gonna have a baby on the show then she miscarried and they instead of like of course they didn't want her to be it would be cruel and unusual punishment for her to have the baby on the show

when she lost the baby in real life. So instead of like writing it out, like instead of giving her, I don't know, I don't know, instead of writing something in the plot, they actually just dropped it completely and never referenced it again. I did not remember that, but that is a hilarious fact. And Married with Children was actually one of my favorite shows i really loved that show it was like uh when fox tv just started like before the simpsons right it was all that stuff it was tracy allman yeah married with children um do you

remember get a life of course i remember get a life it was get a life yeah and uh it was maybe herman's head do you remember herman's head because the voices of the Simpsons are in Herman's Head. Right, right, right. That's Lisa Simpson and Hank Azaria. The other one I always remember, Get a Life, and it's Gary Shandling's show. The Gary Shandling show. Rest in peace to Gary Shandling. Oh, man. This is the theme to Gary's show. It's halfway over.

It's the opening theme to Gary's show. How do you like it so far? That's right. Notice that you hear when you start the credits. Yeah. Yeah. And I remember watching that one day, and he was falling down some, and the bottom was pit, like, so the camera's spinning and Gary goes, how's my hair?

Like this. And I don't know. I was younger, obviously. And I fucking thought that was hilarious. But yeah, Gary, Gary Shanley. That was some of the best television, man. That was really, because it was so, it was edgy. Irreverent. It was irreverent television man that was really because it was so uh it was edgy irreverent it was irreverent like that word it was different it kind of changed the culture a bit yeah no doubt so yeah um in a pre-simpsons world uh married of children was groundbreaking

like uh no peg you know it's just you know this whole it was great yeah and the way he was able to like have a nice middle class uh upbringing for his two children and take care of his housewife uh his his wife who was a homemaker right on a shoe salesman salary which is unheard of today yeah yeah they'd be they'd be ubering and podcasting and doing all types of like 10 different gigs today oh yeah no doubt no doubt uh we are going to kick out the jams just to let people know but i got some choice audio before we even do that. But first, I want to thank our newest sponsor. This is really, I don't get to do this too often,

but there's a brand new partner helping to fuel the real talk here. And there's something in it for you too, Jamar. So welcome, Capadia LLP. I'm going to get my initials right. Capadia, it's an accounting firm, and they see beyond the numbers. For example, did you know, Jamar, you can claim an HST rebate of up to $30,000 on a newly built condo

or a substantial renovation of your house. Wow. That's the kind of insight you get from Capadia. There's all these tips and tricks. I was meeting with Rupesh there, and it's amazing. I'm going to try to share like a fun fact every time I, uh, I record, but Jamar, there's something in it for you. You ready? Okay. A free 30 minute consultation with Rupesh at Kapadia to talk about anything like business stuff. Like I will most definitely take this offer. Yeah. I think it's amazing. This is amazing. And this is something that I need.

I need to kind of figure out, what is it like real estate and financials and all that stuff? Basically like, you know, they're, they're CPAs and public accountants. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Bring that all on. What I like about Rupesh and the people at Capadias. Yeah. You got numbers. They know the numbers, but they see beyond the numbers. Like they can tell you the story of like,

why does it benefit you to like be, I don't know, uh, corporatize the Jamar brand and then sell that to bell media instead of this like all the different tax loopholes i love this because i suck at it and i farm out all of the things that i can do to people this is how i run my life i suck at it too so i'm all in on this thank you to capadilla you saidadia alright that's what's up the funny thing is initially I just saw the name Cappadia

and I thought it was Cappadia this is my mind and then I learned it's Cappadia much like Cappuccino except with a K but I'll put a link

on torontomic.com and people should check them out and thank them for fueling the real talk I think that's amazing and before I get I got some Ashby questions

I got more more questions but I want to give you some Ashby questions. I got more, more questions, but I want to give you some gifts because you came all this way. By the way, Brian mentioned in his spiel that he's, you know,

selling the Galleria Mall condos. I wonder, you can buy the condo with Brian. Did you buy a place yet in the city? No, I haven't bought a place yet. You buy the condo with Brian and then you go to Capadia

and you get this $30,000 HST rebate. Damn. I'm telling you. I'm taking care of you, man. Yo, that's crazy. That's a lot of money. I'm legit surprised by that. Yeah, okay.

And you're hungry, man. You got to feed the girlfriend and you got to feed the kid. Always hungry. Kid can't eat lasagna yet. You know that, right? No, what's that about? How old is your... He's five months old.

What's the lasagna thing? Tell me about that. Right here. This is a frozen meat lasagna. Oh, he literally cannot eat lasagna yet. You know that, right? No, what's that? How old is your... He's five months old. What's the lasagna thing? Tell me about that. Right here. This is a frozen meat lasagna. Oh, he literally cannot eat lasagna yet. No, because he can't chew. But this is a real...

You'd have to puree it. We'll get you a puree. But that's for you and the girlfriend. Hey, thank you. Yeah, you put that in the fridge for 24 hours, right? Okay.

Because right now it's frozen solid. And then you put it in the oven. There's instructions, but 375 for like 45 minutes. I'm telling you, you're going to tweet at me that that's the best lasagna you ever had. Really?

I promise you. Thank you so much. I hear back. Jerry Howarth, you're not a Toronto guy, but Jerry Howarth called Blue Jay Games. He just wrote me the most lovely note that how much they love lasagna. Like this is good stuff. So that's for you. Palmapasta.com.

People should cater their events with palma they're now on skip the dishes go to palmapasta.com beer did i give you a beer last time you did and i would gladly take another one if you have more for me sure all right good man because this is uh great lakes brewery there it was really good beer last time too man that was very tasty it was rich it wasn't wimpy Like it was real beer I liked it Dude this is the real deal man they know what they're doing And it's always fresh and they're fiercely Independent like me

And 99.9% Of their beer remains here In Ontario so this is your six pack There Is an event I just want to tell you and the listeners About that on June 27th Can I crack one open? Of course, man.

But do it on the mic. I need to hear that sound. Oh, you know, that's the best sound. That is a great sound. Oh, and the smell is good, too. Well, you got the Gordy Levesque there. That's Gordy Levesque. That's the pale ale, right?

That's the Canuck. The Canuck pale ale. That's the real deal, man. All right. I'm sorry. I interrupted you. No. Are you That's the real deal, man. All right. I'm sorry I interrupted you. No. So you're talking about the event?

No, I want you to come if you're available and bring the kit if you want. But bring those ear muff things. You know those, what are they called? The things that... I haven't gotten him any of those yet because I haven't brought him anywhere loud. But I do need a pair of those. Well, if you bring him, you got to do that because I got some bands playing live, including Lowest of the Low.

Okay. So it's June 27th, 6 p.m. at Great Lakes Brewery. Okay. So I hope everybody comes. The first beer's on the house. There's no cover. You just come. I got the patio, the lawns, and yeah, a couple of bands.

The Royal Pains are going to open. I'm going to make some great speeches. And then we got Lowest of the Low. They recorded the theme song I'm going to play at the end of this episode. You're not a Toronto guy, so you're forgiven for wondering who is the lowest of the Low, who they recorded the theme song I'm going to play at the end of this episode. You're not a Toronto guy, so you're forgiven for wondering who is the lowest of the low. Okay.

Fantastic local band and can't wait to have them play to MLX3. Yep. Nice. Nice. All right, cool. I will come.

I will be there. You know, now I'm going to expect to see you there, so I... That's why I'm coming. Afterwards, you'll say, Mike, I just said that. Oh, man.

Listen, barring any, if anything crazy comes up like you know but like i i'm well that's the other thing kids are useful for man getting out of things i haven't used them for an excuse yet but no i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm planning to come to this uh like i got four kids and whenever i'm invited to something i can't make i just say i gotta do i gotta do father duties with one of the kids or whatever and i'm nobody like second nobody asks you like suggests you're lying because you know there's always something to do with the kids so all right

one more gift for you so you got the beer and the lasagna thank you see how nice i am to my guests you're fantastic that's why i'm back sticker you.com they're in liberty village and they're fantastic uh partners as well helping to fuel the real talk here Here, first of all, there's the sticker you sticker, so you know where the heck to get your customized stickers. Oh, that's what they do? Yeah. I'll be hitting them up. Do it up.

You can get your Jamar and the Six stickers, but you can get as many as you want customized. You can get anything that sticks, not just stickers, but temporary tattoos or decals. This is a decal back here. What else? Magnets, buttons, all that kind of stuff. But because you're now a Toronto man, we're converting you.

Yes. Are you cheering for the Raptors? Of course I'm cheering for the Raptors. Absolutely. Just making sure, man. Absolutely cheering for them. The Raptors, I mean, I don't know. The Raptors are the most exciting team.

I mean, people still have Golden State, but I believe the raptors most exciting team in the east if you were still in chicago would you no no no i was never a bulls fan because you're a knicks guy i'm a knicks guy and i and i actually hate the knicks right now yeah just to remind people if they haven't gone back and heard your they should all go back everyone should go back and hear jamara's first episode but if you didn't he's a new york guy yes who came here from chicago but you're in new york but i'm a new yorker um and i say that not because i do not not because of anything against chicago but the culture is so specific that i want to give chicagoans their due that i understand there's a culture that i was there for

10 years and i adopted the the city yeah but i'm i'm you know anyone who met me would know i'm gonna play a clip from uh you in chicago in just a moment but uh okay so did you watch the raptor game last night? Yeah. Isn't that amazing? It was sick. We won by 36 points. It was a completely different team from previous nights. Yeah, a little, like, well, like game one.

But yeah, game two, we should have won. We should have had game two. Game three, we got blown out, and then the sky was falling, and I started to brace myself, like my 17-year-old that I heard, and I started to like, I gave him a whole speech about how like,

I've been watching this team since 95. We've never won before. We can wait another year. Like, you know, it's just a game. The abilities of the guys on this team, man. I got to tell you, they're special. They're special. They play, they have good chemistry.

They play well together. All they have to do is have a good game. And then you get what happened last night. Unbelievable. So now it's like, high hopes clinch this on uh tomorrow thursday yep one more sticker my favorite sticker to hand out i've been actually delivering these so i bike every day and i've been asking listeners on twitter like hey do you want a toronto mic sticker from sticker you dot com a bunch of people are like yeah and i've been dropping in people's mailboxes throughout the city like this has actually been happening.

This one's for you, my friend. Toronto Mike. I got an official Toronto Mike sticker. So tweet where that ends up, okay? Now I'm official. This is happening, man. Thank you so much, man. What was it like to have that viewpoint, that perspective on the Roger Ashby farewell,

that was a really celebrated event. It was the, I probably had the weirdest seat in the whole room. Yeah, for sure. Because, and I'm ashamed to say this, but not ashamed, but it's like weird. It's like I'm not from here. And I had to witness something that so many tens of thousands of maybe even hundreds of thousands of people were aware of, meaning the legacy of a one Robert.

50 years. Yeah, 50 years. And like I just really had no background on it because I just wasn't here for it. So I respected it and I appreciate it as a broadcaster. But like it didn't hit me when I got here as hard as it hit other people because I'm just like, ah, you know, this guy named Roger is retiring. And it's like this guy named Roger, the Roger Asterix is retiring. And I'm just like, you know this guy named roger's retiring and just like this guy named roger the roger ashby's retiring and i'm just like i you know i had to really quickly get my head around that like this is a very special thing to a lot of people

yep um i gotta really understand what it is and i'll be honest with you at the roger ashby send off which was uh lovably called um kiss your ashby goodbye um i had a moment where i had to go backstage and also just let out i had like emotional breakdown i had to go backstage and actually cry a little bit because it was just yeah i did because it was just like but he wasn't dying no he wasn't dying but you know i'm a radio guy sure and you know i'm doing the math and i will never probably i probably never have a 50 year can i ask you uh real talk talk here real talk yeah well again that's yeah we'll get to that sure let me do the math you might um did you feel at all like that you were taking his spot and maybe did you have any sense like uh and i don't want to get too controversial but maybe he didn't want to retire quite yet did you feel like maybe he wanted

to hang around a little longer or did you feel like he was ready to go if i'm making a guess and i didn't really speak about this specifically with Roger, because that's just a weird convo. But if I'm guessing, you know, from, you know, what I know about him, I'm guessing he would have, Roger would love to broadcast forever. Right. But at some point you come to a decision that this is the formal end of the career. And that's what he did. So that's what I gather.

I think if he could set up a microphone in his bed or whatever, he'd probably just do shows forever. I think my feeling is he's been here, you're closer to Roger than I am. I don't want to pretend I met him at a couple events

and he dropped by and did real talk here but my sense is yeah, he would be recording today if he could because this is in his blood and he's wanted to do this.

So I wondered, not to get too armchair psychiatrist on you but if you you know you're i mean let's face it you you know you're here to take over for the legendary roger ashby and be marilyn dennis's uh co-host on a very popular morning show so like you're there to take over for this veteran who's leaving but kind of wants to hang around maybe this is where the emotion comes from on your part like you not that not at all like you're responsible for him leaving of course not you know you're lucky

that you're the guy chosen to take the spot but maybe you feel some kind of a sense of like uh sadness that it's time comes for all of us and it's time for roger to go and i'm gonna be completely honest like that wasn't really ever my thinking or the emotions for me was just how special it was right like it was like i've never really been a part of anything like that wasn't really ever my thinking or the emotions for me was just how special it was right like it was like i've never really been a part of anything like that that was a send-off for a legendary broadcast i've i haven't been a part of that i was part of the show you know it was just a couple months but it was the roger marilyn and jamar show um so right um or roger marilyn with jamar or whatever so it was our show and and I was a part of him with this epic send-off

and I've never really seen that. All the stories, all the celebrities, the mayor, Rick Moranis calls in. Mike Myers has a little antidote about it. I mean, it's just like everyone in really mainstream media politics society

had something to say. Then, of course, all of the listeners and the fans and the people of Toronto. Well, so many radio legends came out for the Ashby. Yes, yes. People who had worked with him. You would lack, of course,

and I can imagine what this is like being new to a market. How do you suddenly become educated? You kind of had to be there for a lot of this. For me, I started looking at my own career, and I was like, you know, not really jealousy, but just like, wow, this is special because number one, it's special.

Number two, I'll probably never get a send off like this. Cause I probably won't be anywhere for 50 years, you know, like in 50 years I'll be 90 something. You know what I'm saying? So like, that's not happening. Okay.

Speaking of scent, let's do a compare and contrast. So you were at the Ashby send off. So let's listen to your, uh, farewell, uh, in Chicago. Oh oh man oh man oh no i haven't listened to this i haven't listened and this was called the j show is that what it's called

yeah the j show my show this is my my sendoff after 10 years oh my god it's only because of the song played at the end of it and how it all comes full circle here so let's listen and then we'll talk you know when the when the when the books are written or when the Wikipedia page is edited, there's nothing they cannot take out the fact that these three people came in here and hung out these years and did their thing. Lasted a lot longer than probably

people thought. And just if I could just be very personal or what's the word? Self-centered for a second. I'll let you be self-centered right after, but I'm personally proud that a Jamaican American kid from New York city came to Chicago for 10 years and was able to do this. I'm very proud of that.

That's awesome. I'm very proud of that. And we all have a lot to be proud of. Thanks. All right. Hey guys, have a great day. Have a great, whatever the rest of you are doing.

Things feel like they end, but they don't really end. No. Follow us on social media. That's right. You'll see me in the freaking desk. Sayers. Sayers, Jay. Sayers.

What? Sayers social media. I don't know. Find us. Don't put it in this stupid paper. I'm showbiz Shelly. You can find me there. I'm findable, right?

Turn up, turn up, turn up, Turn up, turn up, turn up, turn up, turn up, turn up, turn up. I've been moving calm, don't start no trouble with me. Trying to keep it peaceful is a struggle for me. Don't pull up at 6 a.m. and cut off. Like it ends with the sixth god here. Yeah. So that was 10 years

your final break. Yeah. So you haven't heard that in a while, your final break. Yeah. So you haven't heard that in a while, I take it. I haven't heard it in a while. Dude, this is the place for that. Listen, if I ran down the list of radio legends who have shed a tear in that chair, you're in good company, my friend. That's real talk.

But at that time, if I may bring you back to that time, you don't know what's next, right? No, at that time, I don't know what's next, right? No, at that time, I don't know what's next. It's crazy. At that time, I don't know what's next. Well, I kind of knew what was next at that time. At that time, I have a long history with some radio stations in the Cayman Islands. I've done voice track morning shows.

I was actually live there for a while, back and forth between Miami and Grand Cayman. I was actually live there for a while, back and forth between Miami and Grand Cayman. So at the time, when I was aware that at the end of my contract, we'd be going our separate ways, I said, well, great, that's great. You know, I was kind of looking for a change, and I wanted to kind of up my game a little bit and also just get a change of scenery and pursue some other goals that I had. And I said, I'm going to go down to Grand Cayman. I'm going to work in the the media company Hurley's Media that I'm associated with down there at the radio station

do my show that I do there still live and I'm just going to live in Grand Cayman for a while and just you know I mean that's not bad news right? Live in the most beautiful place It's still kind of cold out there No regrets but my plan was I said hey I'm going to the

Cayman Islands I'm going to you know just some stuff there, do some radio and work on music and other things that I'm interested in. And this is the end of the Chicago chapter, which I was actually, it was mixed feelings, you know. Well, okay, let's real talk, man. But that's not you deciding to end the show. This is somebody tapping you on the shoulder, right? And saying... No, this is us saying things are about to change. What do we want to do? Okay, so I guess I'm just trying to get an idea of like,

are you jumping or are you being pushed? No, this... Well, I'm not going to give you all the... You're not going to give me the real talk? Well, not the real talk. I'm going to real talk tell you that I cannot tell you all the luscious details. But the closest thing I could tell you is saying, hey, it was great.

We shook hands and we went our separate ways. But did you understand that you're ending that final break with God's plan by Drake? Crazy. Think about where you are today, man. Crazy. Like, I feel like crying for you, man. I've only second time meeting you. The significance of that moment, man. Like, now mean i did not know well at the time when they

that song was scheduled that was the last song sure and i didn't even know we didn't know that that was gonna be the last break because you know i came in thinking that we were gonna do the whole show i had a feeling that that was the last show yeah um but then you know something had gone out on on the uh press wire about the show ending. And then we looked around the room and we decided it was like, okay, well, they got the jump on it. I said, let's just end the show on our own. Right. And that was like before 10 o'clock when the show really ended.

So we just said, hey, we're going to end it here. And it ended on God's plan by Drake the Sixth God. And on so many levels that if you think about that, what that song is saying. First of all, may I ask you, are you a religious man? I am. I am a religious man.

I mean, I'm not the best practice, but I believe in God. I believe in God. Okay, so the song ends. You don't really know what's next.

There's this Cayman Islands thing, but you get summoned to the Big Smoke, the six here. Yeah. To a heritage, like a legendary station, like 104.5, chum.

And you're going to get the Roger Ashby spot because he's going to retire and you're going to be co-hosting of Marilyn Dennis and you're going to be all over the city on billboards. You're going to have a son. You know what I mean? Like, I mean, you're a daddy to a little boy. You're king of the world.

Like God's plan. Everything you mentioned, I to a little boy. You're king of the world. God's plan. Everything you mentioned, I had no idea about when that whole segment happened. I repeat to people, if you don't believe in fate and the universe or a higher power, that moment that you just heard

of that moment of my life confirms it for me. I had no idea any of this was going to happen after that. God's plan, man. Drake, and here you are. Drake's at the Raptor game yesterday. We're going to win by 36. We're going to win a title for you in your first... Listen, I got to tell you,

I am good luck. When I got to Chicago, the Blackhawks went on a fantastic run of championships. That's right. So maybe... Honesty. Cheers to that, man. Cheers to that. See what you can do for my Leafs next year, too. I tried. Amazing, amazing. Cheers to that. See what you can do for my Leafs next year too. I tried. Amazing, amazing.

And if people haven't heard the first Jamar, let's just quickly play once again because I can't have you on without playing this. So let me play a... You remember this mug here? How can I forget it? Yeah, my Andre the Giant mug. So Andre the Giant mug. It ties in nicely with the clip I'm going to play.

Here it is. Crazy. Crazy. And that was 89? Yeah, 1989. Andre the Giant. And just to make sure people know, you're in that ad. I'm in that commercial, yeah. Little Jamar is in that ad.

Crazy. Amazing. Oh man, Andre the Giant. But we talked about this the first time. I don't want to repeat the whole story, but amazing that you have that moment you can point to. So now that you have a boy, would you put your boy into child acting?

You know what? I've been thinking about this a lot and like, what am I going to do? And I'm kind of just going to, I i think the i wasn't pushed into child acting i my mother you know uh because she recognized some things in me about my personality and figured that acting would be a good fit for me and i'm gonna do much of the same with my my child like if i'm looking at him very very closely to see what interests him i mean even at five months i'm already kind of seeing some things so i'm gonna i'm gonna just observe and then i'm gonna steer him to that direction

into the direction yeah see if he's like an extrovert yeah yeah see if he's uh you know good with his hands see if he's you know athletic or see if he's just really expressive or whatever what can we cultivate and develop cool man cool Let's go in the time machine here. On this day 20 years ago Are you ready for this? This was the number one song in the Billboard Hot 100. This was 20 years

ago already? Yeah, 20 years ago this week. Number one. I can't believe it was 20 years ago. Of course, Ricky Martin. Living la vida loca. There you go.

Oh my goodness. That was a big hit. What was the year exactly? 99. 1999. 1999. Damn it. That's crazy. I know. It does feel like it was only a few years ago 1999. Damn it. That's crazy. I know.

It does feel like it was only a few years ago, right? That's crazy. That's crazy, yeah. It's a completely different time right now. I know. Remember the Time. It's brought to you by Fast Time Watch and Jewelry Repair. They've been doing quality watch and jewelry repairs for over 30 years, closer to 40 years.

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No, March and April. And that's great. Fantastic. Hopefully they'll be back next April. And that's great. Fantastic. Hopefully they'll be back next year. But then I got a call. We want to do May too. Can we get in on May? And I'm like, of course.

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Camp Turnasol, for letting me play this Nana Mascuri jam through May. That's like a bonus month here and I'm super psyched about it. What was the process like of coming up with 10 jams like just tell me how easy or difficult that was this is this i've been i can't wait to get to this part of the show so um if you guys don't most of you guys don't know me very well or maybe you're

getting to know me by listening to the the morning show but and i don't even know if i talk about this enough on the show but i am a music man i is, is, is the simplest joy in my life. It really is. I love music. I love the sounds. Just, just, just hearing a note play on a keyboard is just an amazing thing for me. Hearing a note on, on an instrument or keyboard or anything, just hearing tones, hearing a sound being tuned, and then hearing a composition, a music, a beat, a rhythm. I love music. So with that said, music has been really the hallmark of my life from the earliest years I can remember to now. So when Toronto Mike asked me, he said, yo, we're going to kick out the jams. You need 10 songs. I was like, all right, bet. Let's do it. Let's do it. That was months ago. And when it finally came down to do it, I sat down. I said, how the hell can I pick only 10 songs?

How? When music has been like such a, there are so many songs that define me as a person. And it probably depends on your mood, the time of year. All that. Lots of different variables. Time of my life. All these things. So what I tried, and it was really hard.

It was really, really hard. And I appreciate you for making it 10 songs because I could have made it 40 songs. I think we'll kick out 40 for you, my friend. Did you notice I would send you reminders like, Jamar, where's your jams? I know, and I was procrastinating because when I started thinking about it,

it was hard. I was like, oh, I can't do this right now. And I brought it down to the wire, and I finally got out the 10 jams. And what I will say about these 10 songs before we get into it, these songs are kind of like a roadmap of waypoint markers in my life and in my development. Each of these songs represent a different moment in my life and what I was doing, what I was thinking, who I realized myself to be. Because as we grow and evolve, we kind of learn different things about ourselves.

And we become different. Even though we're the same person, we become different in a lot of different ways. So these songs are very, very meaningful to me. And by all means, they're not the only songs. They're just the 10 I could really just say, all right, these have to be the songs. So're just... Of course. The 10 I could really just say, all right, these have to be the songs. So is it fair to say as we go through these 10 songs, and I don't know if you've heard a jam kicking before,

but I start playing the song. I usually let it do like a verse and a chorus, and then I kind of fade it down a bit, kind of name what the song is, and then we hear from you. Like, what is it that this song reminds you of? Or what is it about this song you love? Like, why does it resonate with it resonate with you like we're gonna learn so much about you as we kick off these these 10 jams kick out these 10 jams uh is it fair to say maybe we're gonna like this is your life

we're gonna get the this is my life yeah fair very fair to say and i've never done this before so this is uh this is a treat man all right so i ask you the question I ask everybody before I play the first song. Jamar McNeil, are you ready to kick out the jams? I am ready to kick out the jams, but I would just like to say. Of course. I didn't determine the order of these songs, so I don't know the order that you're going to play them in. I'm playing them in the order you listed them. Okay. Now, the order I listed them when I sent them to you are in no particular order.

See, you should have put them in the order you want me to play them jamar come on no is there is there a song no no no you just you just play them and i'm gonna play them oh that's too bad so i will play them in the order you sent them and but if there is a song you want me to close with you know i could mute these mics and you could you could tell me right now do you want to do that um yes okay okay good because i was gonna i was going to open with that damn because first what a great save oh my god thank you okay so now just uh shuffling the deck a little bit here bear with me this is exciting anticipation i was like what song did he want to say hold on maybe the periscope people will know the spoiler there. But okay.

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Hey! Come on. Do it. Do it. Yes. Papa and pa. Starsky and Hutch. This is where I come in

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And I just love your flashy ways. Guess that's why they're broken, you're so mean. I put Hoser NY up to DKNY. Miami, DC, preferred Versace. I take it they're not playing much Biggie on Chum. Not during my day part, but it's all good. If I want some ass, that's great. Tell me why. There's so many things about that song that are special to me things that you might not even suspect number one is the notorious big smalls frank white the teflon it's biggie brooklynite i used like listen i grew up in new

york city yeah so the evolution of hip-hop for me is I have a weird perspective on it because for me hip-hop was just like our local music. It was like all the dudes around the way. It all started in New York City. It all started in New York City, but it's like you would just hear your friends talking about, oh, that cat in Brooklyn, oh, this cat Biggie, he's trying to get on. Or Biggie Smalls took on blah, blah, blah, whatever.

Or you heard a rap battle happen in the street or whatever. Or you get a mixtape with this cat, like, and it was like written on or something. And it'd be a Biggie mixtape. And then he becomes the biggest rapper in the world. I just have a lot of stories about that for a lot of rappers who were just local guys. But they were also on a bigger scale. But we really didn't know. Biggie even said, whoever thought that hip-hop would take it this far,

I literally, as a youth, had no idea that at one point, hip-hop would be one of the greatest urban forces in history. And today, we just played La Vida Loca. La Vida Loca, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was number one 20 years ago. Well, today, if a song's number one, you can bet your bottom dollar it's hip-hop or R&B. But yeah, this genre dominates.

Also, let me dig into this song a little bit. This song takes a sample of Herb Alpert's Rise. I don't know if you know that's a jazz song. It's a song that I actually played. I played the saxophone in high school. So I played that song Before it was sampled for the Biggie song So it was dope

I was like oh snap he sampled Rise And then what else about it I mean I love Slick Rick Who I would have loved to put on my list And that whole chorus If you don't know the Biggie Biggie Biggie Is a sample of Ricky Ricky Ricky Can't you see

That's from Slick Rick. So it's like this song has so much stuff packed into it that I love. And Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick. Dougie Fresh and Slick Rick, yeah. Lottie Dottie, which is fantastic. You know your stuff. So boom.

I know that one. Very, very special song. And that was one of my favorite albums, Life After Death. Rip Biggie. Rip Biggie for sure, man. Man. All right, now for something completely

different. I like it when it's not all one genre. We're all over the place here, so here you go. Let's do it. Yeah. I hope everyone listening knows this song. Hey! Kick it out, Dave. He wakes up in the morning.

Does his teeth work to eat and he's rolling. Never changes a thing. The week ends, the week begins. We look at each other, wondering what the other is thinking. But we never say a thing. These crimes between us grow deeper. So do we. What a great song, man.

Ants marching, Dave Matthews band. This song is so meaningful to me. So meaningful. So meaningful. You have no idea. I need to hear it because it's not often you follow up the Biggie Smalls with the Dave Matthews. This is a good combo. Talk to me. Well, these songs are from the same time.

They're from the same time period. I know because I was there when it happened. So like I tell everyone all the time, I grew up in New York City. I grew up in Queens. But I went to high school and grade school in Long Island. So it wasn't too far. It was like maybe 15, 20 minutes away from my house. But it was like the other side of the tracks.

Sure. So I'm going to school, a city kid going to school in the burbs. And then, you know, the school I went to, I went to a prep school that was really mixed with kids from all over kids from brooklyn kids from queen's kids from long island and you know it's just this amazing mix of cultures and i got introduced to like jam bands because i went to school with a bunch of kids that were into jam bands and at the time i you know i i started playing i played guitar because I played the piano and a lot of instruments when I was younger

but this is when I really picked up the guitar and I remember I was in the jazz band with a kid who was a big fan of this band

and I was like what is that? He's like this is the Dave Matthews band bro. Really? He's like yeah they're the best.

Right. And I mean when I actually heard the music I'm like what kind of music is this? You can't call it country.

Right. It's folky. It's rock-ish. It's like a Grateful Dead-ish. Grateful Dead-ish. You can't really put your finger on what exactly it is. But then I see the band and I realize that the band, you know, most people would be like, oh, some white boys playing the instruments. But no.

I mean, if you count, it's a blacker band than most because it's more black guys than white guys in there. See, I'm so fascinated because I never really got the Dave Matthews thing. Now I'm thinking I missed out. I'm certain now. Keep going. I didn't know this. Mike, this band is so special because, number one, they're musical geniuses. They're all amazing.

Boyd Tinsley, fantastic dave matthews band great guitar player he even says he's not the best singer but he actually is a really good singer because he does really good melodic stuff um uh leroy moore a rest in peace who actually died uh the the uh sax player i mean the the violinist ste Stefan as a bass player, fantastic musicians, all great. And they're a multiracial band in a time where the world and pop culture is getting really mixed. And I was in a situation where I was in a place that was super dumb mixed. And the band spoke to my experience. So it was just like, wow. You know, it can work.

A lot of different people can work together and put jazz and folk and rock and funk into a mixture of a jambalaya of a Dave Matthews band. Dude, I'm sold. You could sell me on anything there. I'm sold. I'm going to revisit all this. Every one of their albums are great. This is from Under the Table and Dreaming. Remember Two Things, the one before it.

So much to say afterwards. I mean, I love Dave Matthews and anyone who went to high school with me knows this kid was crazy over this band. I really was. It was such good music. And I learned to play a lot of their songs

on guitar too. Amazing. Thank you can i'm two songs deep and i know this is gonna be one of those kick out the jams for the ages because you're you get it man you get it no like mike i told you now i see what bell media saw in you oh stop stop well i told you like this segment doing like you couldn't have chose a better person not because because music means so much to me so these songs are all very meaningful no i gotta I got to get to another jam here. Let's do it. I forgot I would put this in there. Surprise.

Let's just rock with this a little bit. You're going to tell my West Indian people right now. Let's just rock off with the ting-dong. Here we go. Hey, hey. right now. Let's just rock up with the ting now. Here we go. Hey, hey. I had to put a little soca in there. Because the iron have me so bazo, the iron have me so bazo The iron have me so bazo, the iron have me so The iron have me so bazo, the iron have me so bazo

The iron have me so bazo, the iron have me so The whining does never stop, whining does never stop Whining does never stop inside of the mass The whining does never stop, whining does never stop We'll see you next time. There's so many things that this song does right From a musical standpoint Okay, first let's tell the people Because I have to plead ignorance I didn't know about Square One and Alison Hines And this is called Iron...

Bazzodi. Bazzodi. Talk to me, man. It's jamming. So, I'm sure most people in Toronto know Soca music. It's a big Soca city.

Alison Hines is like the queen of Soca. Soca music is credited mostly with Trinidad and Tobago, but all over the Caribbean, Soca's done performed and

expressed um and square one the band that she performed the song with i love this song because it's rhythmically it's just so groovy it's so groovy rhythmically and um bazo the youo di, you know, I'm not Trinidadian, but I, from what I understand, I think like it's a word that means that like you forget everything that you're thinking about and then you end up like cheating on your husband or something like that.

I could be saying that wrong, but that's my understanding of the song. Whatever. Yeah. Cause the iron is that little sound here. She said the iron got me bazo di. I love it, man. The iron got me so bazo di. The iron got me buzz-o-dee. I love it, man. The iron got me buzz-o-dee.

The iron got me buzz-o-dee. On the first two notes of this song, I'm like, I need a beer because this is just too much fun. That's soca music, bro. It just makes you so happy every time you hear it.

So, from a rhythmic standpoint, I think this song is perfect. But also, you know, in terms of reflecting my past, I remember just growing up in New York and going to our carnival in New York is the Eastern Parkway Labor Day Parade. It's on the Labor Day holiday. And Eastern Parkway is like kind of the University Boulevard of Brooklyn.

It's the main road. And that's where the carnival takes place. And when I hear the song, I'm instantly on the road in Carnival. My auntie's selling peanut porridge and curry goat on the side at her little stall. I'm watching the floats go by. And I'm just wishing I was old enough to be on one of those floats. And that song puts me right back in that moment. Did you ever come up to Toronto for a caravan? All the time.

All the time. I came in once I was old enough to do my own thing. We came up to caravan every year. So that song, whenever it plays at carnival or at a party or, you know, when you have, when you're at a FET,

that song instantly throws me back to my youth. And I'm like, oh my goodness, I'm back on the road. I love it, man. That was fantastic. I love that song so much. Now we've had three different... We've gone all over the place. We went to Charlottesville, Virginia,

Brooklyn, New York, and Trinidad and Tobago. Let's go somewhere else. Trinidad to the bone. Where are we going next? All right, let's go. Yeah! I think we went to Haiti All right, let's go. Yeah. I think we went to Haiti. Yeah, let's go to Haiti for a minute.

We got the refs. Hey, hey. Rubbing, rubbing in the club. Y Clefchon. John Forte. Hey. Other. No, I mean the streets are getting a little crazy.

Look, look, look, look, look, look, looka, looka, looka, looka Like a shorty got back Should I ask her for a dance? Hold on, let's wait And who many in the wolf pack? And beside, dirty cats dropped in the park Buying her fake furs and taking her to the fever Why does this kept?

So, I literally just got my driver's license In the material world Cause it's alright, it's a Saturday night I just got my driver's license I'm driving a black Nissan Pathfinder I've got two subwoofers in the back Two kicker What I had

No I had Rockford Fosgates With like a Pioneer amp I had tweeters all over I had the ground effects on the whip Like under When we were in high school We tricked out cars You know that was what we were into

Had the lights Blue lights on the car And I was pumping this joint This song right here Wyclef The Fugees We trying to stay alive Funny thing about this song

For me personally Yeah This song Of course is a sample Of the Bee Gees Stayin' Alive 70s disco song I feel like my parents

Tricked me when I was growing up Because they were like Super into like Caribbean music Reggae when I was growing up because they were like super into like Caribbean music, reggae, dance, ahsoka. But then they also listened to a lot of disco. And I didn't grow up in the 70s. So I feel like when my parents came to America, they wanted to catch up on the 70s. So they played a lot of disco and tricked me to think I was growing up in the 70s. Oh, that's funny, man. So you got like a lot of like Earth, Wind & Fire? Earth, Wind & Fire. There's a band called Mother, Father, that's funny, man. So you got like a lot of like Earth, Wind & Fire? Like is that the stuff we're talking about? Earth, Wind & Fire.

There's a band called Mother, Father, Sister, Brother, I think, MSFB or something like that. They're from Philly. Just like all these like Casey and Sunshine band. They listen to a lot of disco.

So I grew up loving disco. So I love the Bee Gees. And I wanted to put Bee Gees on my list. But I didn't have enough space. No, but you kind of did here. That's smart. This is like a

Trojan horse it's a Congo it's a Trojan horse and Wyclef Jean means a lot to me and the Fugees mean a lot to me because the Fugees

were a Haitian rap group Lauren I think Lauren was black American African American but Wyclef and Praz were Haitian

but they expressed a lot of love for the Caribbean and the West Indian culture which for them because they were Haitian they got a lot of love for the Caribbean and the West Indian culture which for them because they were Haitian they got a lot of flack for it in New York

because it was one of those stupid things where people made fun of Haitian people so they spoke about the Caribbean experience within hip hop and that was my experience within hip hop being a Caribbean kid Here in Toronto there's a guy named DJ Ron Nelson

who pretty much he helped bring hip hop to toronto like he would be one of the first promoters to bring like bands like a public enemy from my shoulders or uh wow yeah there it is yeah krs1 uh boogie down productions all that stuff he'd bring him to the opera house or whatever and then um he also would help give like local rappers like i saw you checking out that's Maestro Fresh I met him recently

oh did you I love that guy really cool dude man he's a great guy the guy there that Farley Flex actually just to tell people Farley Flex will be

on the show in a couple weeks but I digress but DJ Ron Nelson told me on this show that the key difference between Toronto rap and hip hop

and American rap and hip hop was the Caribbean influence. You know, Mishy Mee. I'm going to just give a shout out to Mishy Mee. I love Mishy Mee if you're watching. I love you. Well, guess what? I spoke to Mishy Mee on the phone maybe two days ago. I love her, but she knows that already.

But there's a good example of somebody who really brought the Jamaican, the reggae into the rap. And we really had it blended together here. So you're in the right place. I am in the right place. That's why I was so excited to move here. But Biggie, of course, is Jamaican. A lot of people in hip hop were of West Indian heritage, but it wasn't expressed exactly the same. And the Fugees know just because of the time

period i was you know grew up in yeah the fujis was one of the most explicit expression of caribbean culture with hip-hop all in one i was like yo that's my group right there and you're new york guy and they're new jersey right yeah the other jersey close enough close enough yeah but i mean much love and i and i actually have a good rapport with Wyclef. Love him to death. Oh, nice. He's one of the dopest dudes on earth. Just love Wyclef and the whole Fuji crew. So that's a legendary song for me. Nice choice.

And that's a great single. And although it's not credited to, of course, it's not the Fugees, but it is Wyclef Jean in his solo. But that's got the Gone Till November on there. Yeah. That's a great disc. I played the hell out of that disc. What a great album that was, right?

I really like that disc. It's a great Wycle I played the hell out of that disc. What a great album that was, right? I really like that disc. It's a great Wyclef Jean solo effort. Here's another Jamar Jam. You had me at the first note, Mike. Yeah. Welcome to the real world, she said to me Condescendingly Take a seat Take your life

Blot it out in black and white Well, I never lived the dream of the prime kings And the drama queens I'd like to lived the dream of the prime kings and the drama queens. I'd like to think the best of me is still hiding up my sleeve. I'd love to tell you, stay inside the lines. The lines But something's better On the other side I wanna run through the halls

In the high school I wanna scream At the top of my lungs I just found out There's no sense That it's the real world Just a lie You've got to rise Great song. Big up my man John Mayer. Love John Mayer.

And that's No Such Thing. Funny story about this song. I was walking through Central Park in Manhattan one day, and I saw a big stage set up. I see this dude performing for some showcase, and I hear this song. I'm like, wow, that's dope. Who is that?

This new guy named John Mayer. And I'm listening to the song. You know, at the time, a lot of people were comparing him to Dave Matthews. Yeah, I can hear it. Yeah, but they're different. They're very different. But I can hear why people would say that. Because he's kind of a crooner, guitar, folksy sounding guy

but they're really different. Any fan would know that they're very, very different. Right. But the message in this song resonated with me so much because it's just talking about there's no such thing as staying in the lines. You can color outside the lines. You can define yourself.

You can do this thing called life the way you want to do it. And when he realized this, he went to scream at the top of my lungs like he was so happy that he finally figured out there's no such thing as the real world it's a lie the world is what you create around your perception how you want to live it and and i that really resonated with me because i think i'm kind of like a hybrid of a lot of stuff in one and at one point I really battled with that. Like, why is everyone trying to put me in a box? And like, I'm supposed to be this, but not that.

I'm supposed to be not that, but this. Right. And this song just really spoke to my personal experience. Like, yo, you're who you are. And this was one of the moments where I said, okay, just do it your way. And I've made a life professionally and personally out of just doing things my way. You know, that's a, Paul Anka wrote that song. Canadian Paul Anka wrote My Way. Really? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do know that. And I'm telling you, if anyone's ever struggling with that, that thing, man, when you finally

realize that it's all about how you write the rules, you will scream at the top of your lungs like he said in that song. It's a good feeling to just be free. Jamar, I feel like I'm witnessing you at the height of your powers right now. You got the baby now. It sounds like things are going well with the girlfriend. Then you got the dream radio gig and things are going well there. And they're putting a bunch of money into the marketing.

I've had people, by the way, I've had people from Bell Media on the show tell me Bell Media didn't promote the personalities. They promoted the station. Like I've had people, I won't name them, but they've said that to me. That's not true, man. They're promoting you guys as personalities.

You and Marilyn. I'm very happy about that. I'm very happy. And it hasn't been the case in my whole career um and it's an honor when when a radio station gets behind personalities because you know we we as radio personalities and that's what we are you know we put our hearts out there we put our lives out there we put our ourselves out there to be judged yeah and it's hard man you know people you know how many shots people took at me when i started here at shop what kind of shots though just i don't know i don't know about this guy what's his problem and it's hard, man. You know how many shots people took at me when I started here at Shub?

What kind of shots, though? I don't know about this guy. What's his problem? He's not Canadian. Oh, yeah, that was right. Why does he say the word dope all the time and all this crap? And the way you said Toronto, and I always defended you, buddy.

Yeah, I mean, I don't say it like that anymore. That's a stupid argument. I think it's stupid, too. Because I'm not from here. I'm obviously not going to say it. But also, I'm from here, and I find it fun to say Toronto. I think it's fun too. Because I'm not from here. I'm obviously. But also I'm from here and I find it fun to say Toronto. Like I think it's fun to hit that second T.

And somebody of, speaking of the Caribbean, somebody of, Caribbean or Caribbean? It doesn't matter, right? It just kind of, I say Caribbean. Okay.

It doesn't matter. I go back and forth because I can't decide. So someone of Caribbean descent told me that it's common to hit that second T. Absolutely. Right t absolutely right absolutely that's a very like uh yo i'm from toronto like that's a caribbean pronunciation of toronto in toronto i mean we have so many people in this city you know it's the most diverse city in the world though you're from new york you know what

that's like but uh you know there's a lot of people here from the west indies and uh if we want to hit the second t we can hit the second second. It's all good. I say Toronto now. You've been trained. I've assimilated, but, but yeah, that's all, you know,

good, good. That's another great song, man. I love this segment so much, man. Well, Hey,

we're only halfway done here. Let's kick out another. Yes. Oh, baby. Oh, baby Oh, baby Oh I've been watching you, been watching me And if destiny was meant to be

I've got all the time Yes, brother. Big tune. This is a big tune. Whoa. And if destiny was meant to be I'm gonna hold you tight I'm gonna hold you tight I'm gonna hold you tight Under candlelight I'm gonna hold you tight When you're smiling When you're smiling I'm gonna hold you tight

With my profile I'm gonna hold you tight I'm gonna hold you tight Wayne Wonder. Wayne Wonder. Big up to the man, Tony Kelly. This is the bookshelf rhythm. This is watching you. And what I love about dancehall music, dancehall music from Jamaica, what I love about dancehall music is that we have what we call rhythms. Are you familiar with the rhythm system? Yes, yes. For those who don't know, if you mind I explain.

Please. So rhythms are like the beat. So like the actual music of the song, we call that a rhythm, which is like a rhythm. But in our system, like 10 different artists will record on one different rhythm, on one rhythm. And they'll do their own version of their lyrics and their own chat on the rhythm. So you have, for example, this is one of my favorite rhythms of all time. It's called the bookshelf rhythm. And then you have like 10 different songs on the rhythm. So you have, for example, this is one of my favorite rhythms of all time. It's called the bookshelf rhythm. And then you have like 10 different songs

on the same music. Gotcha. So what's so great about that is if you love a song, you don't have to hear it just one way. You can hear it 10 different ways by 10 different artists. And it's called the bookshelf rhythm

because arguably one of the best versions of the song is Beanie Man's Bookshelf. That's the name of the song, Bookshelf. Right. But anyway, I just love the Wayne Wonder version because when he starts, it's like, ooh, baby, and it's like, yeah, you hear it. I don't know. No, it's great.

And tomorrow's guest is a guy named Master T. Okay. Okay, Master T won't be known to you because you grew up with MTV. We grew up with Much Music, and Master T is a Much Music legend. Okay. Okay, Master T won't be known to you because you grew up with MTV. We grew up with Much Music and Master T is a Much Music legend. Okay, okay. Legend. He's of Jamaican descent.

Right. And one of the questions my pal Retro Ontario wants me to ask Master T is Shabba Ranks or Cuddy Ranks? Oh, man. This is the question. Yo, you're trying to cause

some controversy upon the radio man What do you do Now me Like I really was Into hip hop and rap And I loved Public Enemy And I got into

Shabba Ranks Like because Raw as ever And some other stuff Discs found their way Into my collection I'm like this is really good This is like

This is great But I don't even Really know Cutty Ranks That well Cutty Ranks is You know Shabba Ranks is You know Shabba Ranks is probably

The more commercially Successful of the dancehall Sure Because of Maxi Priest Right That was a great Those are great songs Right there

Around the same time 90s dancehall Is like the best dancehall But you know Shabba Ranks of course Is the more commercially Successful But Cutty Ranks

Are the boss brother Cutty Ranks is a Sick sick sick Sick artist Big hit So I mean It's You know In dancehall But Cutty Ranks are the boss, brother. Cutty Ranks is a sick, sick, sick, sick artist. Big hit. So, I mean, in dancehall, you have all these, you have always these,

I don't know if you want to call them feuds or wars, but, you know, Shabba Cutty Ranks. You have Ninja Man and, you know, whomever, or you have Beanie Man versus Bounty Killer. You know, it's always two, you know, competition. Gotcha. Cool. Now, I'm going to ask you the same question I asked Mishi Mi, which is, okay. Okay.

So, you break into like a Jamaican accent because you are of Jamaican descent. Yeah. Okay. Is it okay that Snow does that? I'm very going to sit back and listen to your answer. I'll be honest with you i know that snow is from toronto and i don't know his like ethnic origins so all right well he's darren o'brien okay well there it is well you're you're you're mcneil so you're irish yeah well

maybe we're related now jokes um it's weird because with toronto even with like the whole drake phenomenon you know, Drake will break out into some patois. Like I saw Drake on stage with Popcorn in Jamaica and him say, yo, yo,

Mia, Mia, he started talking. But his dad, what's his dad's? His dad's American. His dad's from like Kentucky. But there's still,

you got to go, you know, we all got to go back another couple of generations. I guess I can't speak on it for sure. But my understanding that his mother is a white Jewish lady and that his dad is African American.

That's my understanding. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But the only Caribbean link I know Drake to have is the fact that he grew up in Toronto. My understanding is that everyone in Toronto is like de facto Caribbean anyway. So I guess where I'm going with this, if Snow can do that,

and Mishimi defended Snow's right to do that, but for the same reason you're saying, which is in Toronto, it's all good. She loves it. And she works with Snow. And Snow, Informer is one of the- Informer is a sick song. Informer is a- When I DJ, I drop Informer in my 90s set.

Absolutely. And everybody loves it when you do it, right? Of course. I don't think it's cool to say you like Informer, but let's face it. When that jam is played, you're on the dance floor. I'll tell you something, Mike. I'm one of those guys that does not mind being uncool.

I say with pride that Snow Informer is one of the dopest songs. And Snow, if you reach into his catalog, he also has some other dance hall songs that are like legit.

Like he did a song on, I think, Anything For You. That song gets played in all dance halls and it's a legit tune that people say, yo right you really know your music when you play it that tune this so it's like it's not it's not a uncool thing to say you like snow so snow can do it uh can i do it can toronto mike do it you can attempt it because rob ford did it i remember

wait was that rob ford or doug it was rob right doug's gotten i'm gonna say this now that rob ford there's no comparison they're both idiots but rob on some level rob was had some kind of charisma he had a charm right there was a charm doug is charmless doug it's definitely rob who broke into patois okay well listen you can attempt it i i i can confirm i'll confirm too if you if you got it but uh you can do what you want, man. You're my boy. Wayne Wonder, love it, man. I'm sure the great one was named after Wayne Wonder. I'm sure that's how it is.

I think so. Okay, this next jam I'm going to play, I need to preface it by saying that I had this disc. I played it like crazy, and I recorded, because much music would have these things called spotlight, and it would be like a half an hour or an hour of one artist, all the videos from one artist, and I would record it to vhs and i recorded it for this band nice and smooth i and i think it's i think we're in like i think i know the bowls were on

their way to another championship which i think it was early 90s i want to say and it was nice i can't come again i'm confused who's who but greg nice it was smooth yeah I keep coming again. I'm confused who's who, but Greg Nice. It was Smooth. Smooth who inspired me to go off one day after watching one of the videos and go off and get my ear pierced. Really?

Swear to you. When I was 15 years old, I saw this nice and smooth video and go, fuck it, I'm going to do what Smooth did and I ran off and got my ear pierced. Well, dog,

it looks like we were both inspired by this group. I'll tell you how after. All right, let's get into it because this is one of my favorite nice and smooth jams. Here we go. Some Partridge family.

Partridge family. Genius, right? Yeah. I got a funky, funky rhyme. I got a funky, funky rhyme. I got a funky, funky style. I got a funky rhyme. I wear the funky, funky style.

I got a funky rhyme. I wear the funky, funky style. I made a rickety rock. It was my favorite cartoon. Ladies, ladies, let your body flow. Greg Nice was a great big way yo broke the scale you won't tell yo I won't tell yo

clientele I must exhale took a little test so I passed and failed breaks huh no need to hit em skins you got em I wanna get with em nice and smooth as fuck all I've done is Oh man, the nostalgia is just pummeling me right now. This is unbelievable.

This is fantastic. This is one of the greatest days. Honestly. This is one of the greatest days just to be able to do this with you, man. I swear. I still, you know, whenever... Oh, there's some smooth right there.

Hold on. He was a cool cat, man. I always wanted to be like this guy. I'm this white guy in Toronto. I want to be like this guy. Nice and smooth, man. Because, man, my tip was harder than a rock. And you know what sucks about this segment, man?

There's all this other stuff I wanted to put in there. I wanted to put some, I should have put some Tribe Called Quest in there. Dude, we could do a sequel. We have to do a sequel. I'll get you more lasagna, more beer, more stickers. You come back, honestly. Maybe in, I don't know, September. You have a few months.

You call it, I'm here. But this song means a lot to me because it was, you know, that time in hip hop where like being smooth and being like, like having finesse with your rhymes was what separated you from the pack. Like if you weren't, if you didn't have a flow, bro, you had no chance. Right. It's crazy. I mean, it's a different time now, so it's different. But you know who invented that, I think? I feel like that's Big Daddy Kane.

That is Big Daddy Kane with that smoothness, man. Yeah. Damn, dawg. Big Daddy smooth words to mother. Let's check out a flick that exploits the color. Roman through Hollywood late at night. Red, blue lights. What a comment.

Yo, Toronto Mike is the real deal. Only because that's in a public interview. Listen, don't get it twisted. That man is a real deal. I'm telling you. But anyway, with Nice and Smooth, this was such a dope song to me because they sampled the Partridge family, which something was not really cool, but they made it cool. And I liked that.

Yeah. It's like the Brady Bunch. It was one of those things we saw in syndication all the time. Right. The Partridge family. So I like when people flip something and make something like what Wyclef did with the Bee Gees. Right. You take something that people might laugh at you for liking.

Because people might have laughed at me for liking disco. But then Wyclef flips it and makes it into a hit song. And I love that. Nice and Smooth did the same thing with Hip Hop Junkies. You're right. You're dead right. And my name as a youth when I started DJing and getting into music. I know the answer, but tell me.

Jay Nice. Of course, with two I's though. With two I's. But I called myself answer, but tell me. Jay Nice. Of course, with two I's though. With two I's. But I called myself Jay Nice because I really loved Greg Nice. Honestly, I think I knew that, but it's too funny that Greg Nice inspired your name.

And what was Smooth's name again? MC Smooth B? MC Smooth B. Inspired my, the piercing, which is closed up by the way, because that's some, by the way, so I'm in my second marriage now and my last marriage, okay? But I brought back the way, because that's some, by the way, so I'm in my second marriage now and my last marriage.

Okay. But I brought back the earrings. The hole never closed for decades. And it's like, I started wearing a hoop again. And my, my wife said to me, you need to stop wearing that. That's not cool anymore. And I was so like deflated, right? I took it out and then I left it out.

And then now it's closed up i did it myself i have a hole in this ear too i used to wear a stud and i looked once i started locking my hair and i grew out my hair i looked really stupid with the stud because at once at one point i had a bald head right and i had the ear so i looked like a mr clean type of dude but then when i started growing my hair the one stud in the ear looked really dumb so i was like all right this has to come out but like i said what a tough choice to make because i i'm from queens i needed to get some tribe called quest in there oh yeah but i didn't because greg nice is why i'm called jay nice so like i was like ah tough choice but you know big up to nice and smooth and big up to all the uh oh man i was

gonna say when tracy chapman's fast cars sometimes i run slow, sometimes I run quick. And I still drop it. Yeah, you see, you know his stuff. Maybe I should lick her with my nine millimeter. Like, really, is he thinking of killing her? Is that what he's thinking

in that line? You interpret it. I've always thought that line was a little excessive. But then, I'll put you in a rehab and I won't tell your folks. And what do you know?

In 18 months, she came home and I let her back in. And now she's sniffing again. Look at you. I mean, it's just telling a story, though. And that's when they told stories. Yeah, it's just a story. I love stories.

You know, he said. It's like children's story from Slick Rick. You mentioned him earlier. I loved that Slick Rick children's story. I wanted to put that in storytelling. I wanted to put in, I got a story to tell Biggie. Excuse me. Yeah, exactly.

Remember Biggie, I got a story to tell. I miss the stories in rap.. I miss the stories in rap. I do miss the stories in rap. I miss a lot. I got to say, because I have this argument. My 17-year-old and my 15-year-old play hip hop all the time. And I listen to it a lot because I want to listen to it. But I actually miss my hip hop.

Do you play them your hip hop? I've tried many times. And what do they think? No, they don't like it. They like their hip hop. They don't like it? No, I never hear them play it. I think, I'm trying to think if any of it stuck.

But yeah, Biggie sticks. Biggie sticks. Even Tupac sticks. Some of it sticks. That's crazy to me that they don't like our hip hop. No, and like, for example, Big Daddy Kane. Right. I really liked Big Daddy Kane.

And no, it didn't stick. But they like their guys and J. Cole and all this and it's all good, K-Dot and all this but I can't even remember them all but I guess I miss my late 80s, early 90s hip hop. You know bro, in defense of the

youths, it's just a different time, it's a different paradigm. They're in the cell phone age and this is Big Daddy Kane talking about whatever he's talking about in the song doesn't resonate for them if they're holding an iphone i can do it right yeah you know so it's like i gotta jump back and kiss myself yo the guys greg knows he's like i'm a diamond you're a cubic zirconia like who even talks about cubic zirconias anymore like rappers are so iced out right now cubic zirconia wouldn't even let line wouldn't even make it into a song right now.

Sacro Iliac. Yeah. I'm telling you, man, it was a different time. It's so different. It's just different. Oh boy.

I got, I can't wait to, I have to talk to you about this jam. So let's get this going. Hear the story and then we'll talk about it. Okay. Wow. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Dude, I'm in a time machine right now, man. Let me guess, you're in 1983? Is that where you are, 84? Somewhere around there, yeah, 84. Very young. I'm waiting for my mom To come out of the hair salon I want to go home

And this is playing She's at the hairdresser It smells like fumes And burning hair And women just laughing Oh girl You know I hear Michael Jackson

In the background I saw the Chris Rock documentary About Women of color And their hair Yeah yeah It's complicated. I made that same time machine, man.

I had this cassette twice because I burned out the first one and I had to get it again. I just, I love, I listen to music, I think I listen to music differently. I love the juxtaposition of the rhythm of his melodies against them

like why why like it's perfect syncopation if you listen to it that way it's just such it's such ear candy

and then the harmonies are just beautiful Quincy Jones one of the greatest producers of history Michael producers of history. Michael Jackson, of course, controversial figure now. At the height of his powers. Much like yourself.

Well, I wouldn't say. But thank you. Okay, so let me ask you, though. Well, firstly, I don't think they play any Michael Jackson on Chum, right? No, we don't at the moment, no. So what are your thoughts on, I mean, the HBO doc had a compelling testimony from a couple of guys. I didn't see the documentary. And from what I understand from people who watched it, it's pretty damning.

If Michael Jackson did the things that those men said he did to them, it's fucking awful. It's a disaster if he did that. It's a disaster on many, many fronts. It's really it's a disaster if he did that. It's a disaster on many, many fronts. It's a disaster to the culture. Sure. It's a disaster

to the families and it's a disaster to him, his legacy. I don't know. Does it change anything with how you hear the song though? Because you're back in time,

right? Because in the mid 80s, early 80s, you're listening to Michael Jackson and of course, like all of us, right? This is the biggest artist in the history of the planet.

Listen, I will always love this song. I can honestly say that the controversy has tainted my view of Michael Jackson, personally. You know, we're just in a different time right now. You can't play the song the same. So I'm reading you correctly, and I'm wired this way too, but you're able to separate the artist from the art. Is that fair to say? Because, I mean, you're appreciating the art here, but without condoning anything to do with celebrating the artist.

Listen, I don't have a definite answer. I'm not skirting around the answer for you, Mike, but I'm just telling you how I think. Like, I don't have an answer for you. Because if you told me Adolf Hitler has a painting, I don't know if I could look at the painting and go, wow, that's a beautiful painting. That's a fantastic painting. But maybe you could. Like, I hate to say this, but maybe you could say that's actually a a painting. I don't know if I can look at the painting and go, wow, that's a beautiful painting. That's a fantastic painting. But maybe you could. I hate to say this, but maybe you could say that's actually a beautiful painting, even though this is a horrendous

monster. Right. Maybe I could, maybe I couldn't, but it's like, it's just, it's a question that I don't have the answer to. I just know I love the song. Let's talk about the Ignition remix really quickly and then come back to Michael Jackson. My teenagers will tell you, I'm on the record with them as playing that thing and telling them

this is the greatest single ever. Right. Reignition remix, right? Right. And of course, there's also been a very, yeah, they also,

I don't know what network aired it, but I had to steal it on the Pirate Bay. Right. But I'll delete that in post. My bottom line is it's not appropriate. It's not cool. It's not cool it's not

good to like r kelly but that jam is a jam yeah i can i can separate the art from the artist i think r kelly is a piece of shit but i uh think ignition remix is a work of art listen i i say this i i'm not the most judgmental person. And I really stand by the statement. How you choose to, you know, go forward with the information that you have right now is your choice. Right. You know, these people are in a unique position where they influence culture. They influence culture on a grand scale that we may not even completely understand. Tell me something.

If you're not going to listen to Michael Jackson, then you've got to stop listening to Neo. You've got to stop listening to Justin Timberlake. You can't go to those shows. What about The Weeknd? You can't listen to The Weeknd because they're doing Michael Jackson runs. They're moonwalking on stage. You've got to X out Chris Brown,

which you probably have already done. It's just a difference. But that was easy. I never liked his stuff. Right, exactly. The point is that it's a very, very peculiar situation. And I just say it's an individual choice. And I don't hate, fault, big up or anybody for whatever the choice is.

You know, you make your choice. The information is what it is. And, you know, you just got to do what you got to do. Interesting debates, though. Interesting discussions. Very interesting discussions like just playing uh just playing in a piece of art from the artist at all in any way suggest you're condoning the actions that are i say no i say no i say no but it's interesting it's interesting it's interesting for sure

and you mentioned one of those artists influenced by uh michael jackson is up next let's kick it out oh what a great song my wife's favorite artist by the way really yeah Let's kick it out. What a great song. My wife's favorite artist, by the way. Really? Yeah. I remember where I was the first time I heard this song. If I wrote you a symphony Just to say how much you mean to me

If I told you you were beautiful Hey. I love pop music, man. I love pop music. I'll tell you why I love pop music, man. I love pop music. I'll tell you why I love pop music. Tell me. Let me hear you my lady. Girl, you amaze me. I gotta do nothing crazy. See, all I want you to do is be my love. So don't give away my love. So don't give away my love.

So don't give away my love. In another woman, let it take her spot. My love. So don't take away my love. So don't give away my love. So don't give away my love. In another woman, let it take her spot. My love.

Great song, great song, great song. Future Sex Love Sounds, Justin Timberlake, My Love. That was the second, I think that was the second album, yeah, after the first album, which was Justified. I, at the time, I was working at Y100 in Miami. I was doing the night show, living in Miami. And we were all waiting for this next Justin Timberlake album that we were waiting so much, the follow-up to all those great songs like Señorita and all that stuff.

And then he hits it, and every single song on this album was a beggar. Every single song, love stoned. Like, it was crazy. And then I remember when I played this song, I was like, what the hell? Timbaland is a genius. Timbaland is one of the greatest producers of all time. And he combined with Justin Timberlake to produce this album. And what's great about Timbaland is, like, he doesn't do just one thing.

He really is a composer. And he's a rapper. And he's a producer. What I love about pop music, and this might sound a little controversial, but I appreciate it. Pop music takes what's going on in some subcultures and is able to expose it.

And at the time, Chopped and Screwed, from Houston and all that, Dirty South, where you slow the beat down and get in the groove. Boom, boom. Ticka-doop, boom, boom. Boom. Ticka-boop-bop. Boom. that like Dirty South, where you slow the beat down and get in the groove.

That was the sound back then. So Timbaland and Justin combined to make this song. And like they took that chopped and screwed Southern sound and made it pop. T.I. Hey That's like that triple And Timbaland with that beatboxing background So that was the Rhythm of the day That And they just made it really pop.

And, you know, some people call it stealing or appropriate or, you know, whatever. Maybe it's that, maybe it's not. But it still sounds good. I appreciate it. When I heard this song, I was like, game changer. I remember hearing that. And I loved it so much. I love Justin.

I love this album. I love Timbo, T.I. One of my favorite jams. Gotta let people know the name of the jam in case they want to dig it up. My Love. My Love, Justin Timberlake.

And you gotta check out the dancer team. When they dance to this on the live show, it's great. I try to memorize the dance. And of course, on that killer T.I. album

Justin guests on that of course Yes And that's a great song too Great song too That T.I. album is pretty fantastic actually T.I. is legendary And it's so funny A lot of these dudes Because I've been in radio for so long i've

kind of watched them develop over time and like i remember when all these guys came out they were just like just starting and now they're the legends it's just really really cool man he was like a mouseketeer or whatever that was yeah he was yeah i i just was a mouseketeer i actually um hosted ti's going away party when he went to jail. Right, when he went to jail. Yeah, he went to jail. We did a big party in Miami at the Diddy Mansion on Star Island, and I hosted that party.

It was an all-white party, like white clothes. Wow, wow, wow. That Paper Planes by M.I.A., the sample of that that he uses on that track, Rihanna's on that track, right? Yeah, Swagger Like Us. right? I'm flying in the, yeah, swagger like us. Yeah, I'm telling you. I know it's probably 10 years old now, but damn, it holds up. Like, that was just a great, great single.

Even better than Ignition remix, dare I say. So, one more jam to go. Oh, man, one more jam. The one you secretly told me to hold back, so it's coming. But before I play the final Jamar jam, I want to let people know, Jamie Dew, who was here on Toronto Mic'd on the one-year anniversary of Gord Downie's passing,

Jamie Dew is helping to raise funds for CAMH and mental health initiatives. This is a super great cause. He's got a night. It's called Crazy Funny, the One Brave Night Extravaganza. It's an evening of laughter, magic, music, and giving back. It features Elvira Kurt, Andrew Bush,

the Beyond Mental Borders. And it's Friday, May 10th. That's this Friday at 8.30 p.m. at the Social Capital Theater. Tickets start at $20. And again, this is all going to CAMH and Mental Health Initiatives. Go to ashowofstrength.com to get your tickets.

Do that. It's a good cause. And Jamie Dew is a good guy. Jamar McNeil, your final jam. I wanna love you And treat you right I wanna love you Every day and every night We'll be together

Reggae music is so excellent With the roof right over our heads We'll share the shelter Of my single bed We'll share the same room Yeah Push up from the bars of red We share the same room, yeah The job provides a bread Is this love, is this love, is this love, is this love that I'm feeling?

Man, reggae is so excellent. Like, excellent in ways that I can't even get into it. Is this love, is this love that I'm feeling? I was going to ask if it's excellent in the winter or is it just in the summer? Because I'm all about reggae in the summer and in the winter I'm like, oh, it's like a tease. No, I don't know. When I say excellent, I mean in terms of the musicality or how it plays, it's excellent. It's so patient.

Like it shows restraint, right? It shows restraint, right? It shows restraint And it's It's so perfectly imperfect rhythmically That it's like Like Like Even those fills

You gotta be so patient and chill To play reggae music Every day and every night You've got to be so patient and chill to play reggae music. If you don't have it, you don't have it. But if you have it, there's a pocket that you've got to be in to do reggae music correctly. And Bob Marley did reggae music correctly. I mean, he changed the game with the slowing down of the beats from ska into reggae. And this song on a personal level for me is just really special.

I'm Jamaican, and Bob Marley is one of the most pivotal figures of the country, of the culture. When I hear this song, I remember just being, you know, my father who's now passed away. I think about the video. I just think about, you know, my parents were so cultural when I was growing up. Like, we were just so Jamaican. It was, like, stupid. It was, like, ridiculous.

But, like, I'd wake up on a Sunday morning, and, like, the house would have a slight haze in the air because my mom was frying plantain or making fish and the smoke was going through the house and it smelled great.

And then down the basement my dad had a big he had a big sound system turntables, mixers and he was you know a DJ of sorts and he played his music and the music would be

shaking the house mic. Like this is how I woke up on a Sunday morning with the house just shaking. That sounds amazing. And at the time I just kind of like rolled my eyes and like, oh, my dad's playing his music again. But it became the backdrop of my life. And like now on a Sunday morning,

if reggae music is not playing, I feel like something's missing. This was one of the songs that was just so beautiful to me. Because Bob Marley is explaining about how all the simple things that they were going to do was going to be expressing love. Sharing a bed, making some food, sharing a shelter, roof on the house. That's what love is. This is love that I'm feeling.

And yeah, that's love. And right now, this is my son son my newborn son's favorite song do you want to uh share the name yeah his name is kofi is that after kofi anon uh no not really it's not after kofi anon but it can't be but bob marley is this love anytime i sing this song or play the song for him his little face just lights up and he smiles and i'm like if i'm doing this right he'll remember this song and this these moments for the rest of his life and know that that's the song that his daddy played for him as a youth dude that's beautiful like hearing these stories and hearing you light up as you talk about the music like you clearly have a passion for the music and these stories are fantastic i'm so happy for you and Kofi and your gal.

And man, just things are going in the right direction, man. I'm serious. You are coming back, by the way. I'm going to, if I have to kidnap you, I'll find you. You don't have to do it. Just bring pizza or more Italian food. It's all good. Well, they actually have pizza at Palma's Kitchen,

but I'll probably get you another lasagna for sure. But thanks for doing this. And then we'll get you back here in September and do a sequel, man. Just playing tunes and hearing you talk about it. Thanks for having me, bro. Hey, big up to all the Toronto and anyone who's listening. Thank you so much for chilling.

And that brings us to the end of our 461st show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Now, Jamar is at 6 Jamar, but the six is like numeric six I X Jamar. So follow Jamar there. Our friends at Great Lakes brewery are at Great Lakes beer property in the six.com is that Raptors devotee. I'm so, I can't believe the difference in my life. A big Raptors win makes. We won by 30-something. I'm fucking flying today.

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Oh, you know that's true because Everything is coming up Rosie and Grace