Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jamar McNeil: Toronto Mike'd #386

Episode Date: October 16, 2018

Mike chats with new CHUM morning show host Jamar McNeil about his move to Toronto working with Roger Ashby and Marilyn Denis, and the legalization of weed in Canada.

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Wants to Fight. My favorite. That sounds hot. And then you've got the Blonde Lager. Well, as a new Canadian... Yeah? What's this? Oh, Canuck. The Canuck Pale Ale is the staple. But hey, let me finish this intro and then we'll dive in and talk about all that. Where am I

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I'm Mike from torontomike.com. And joining me is new Chum FM morning man, Jamar McNeil. Hey, what's up? Welcome, my friend. That's great to meet you. We kind of talked on the phone a few times, exchanged emails, and here you are. So this is awesome. Yeah, well, thanks for inviting me, man.

You were one of the first dudes that actually reached out to me when I got here. And I didn't know anything or anybody, but this guy might hit me up and was like, hey, it would be dope if you came by. And I did say yes, I would. And then life happened, and I got really super dumb busy with work. Because you're cutting me off at the pass because I'm about to tell yes, I would. And then life happened. And I got really super dumb busy with work.

Because you're cutting me off at the pass because I'm about to tell you. I remember it because I was outside of my bank setting up the account for my brand new business I was starting, TMDS. So Toronto Mike Digital Services. And I was outside the bank and my phone rings. I didn't know what number it was.

And it's you. And we have a nice chat. And we leave it where you're going to let me know when you can drop by. And then I never heard from you again. Yeah, and my phone rings. I didn't know what number it was. And it's you. And we have a nice chat and we leave it where you're going to let me know when you can drop by. And then I never heard from you again. And then life happened. That's the insert life right there. Everything from... I just left my country and came to

a new country. That's a pretty big deal. No, I know. Listen. Javar McNeil, that's a very big deal. No, no, no. The move I made here to this very big station in this large country has been a very big deal. I'm still establishing my dealness here. But, hey, listen, thank you so much for hitting me back up and linking this up. It's cool to be here and to chat with you.

I have a lot of questions for you. And you should know that Roger Ashby has been here. Yeah, yeah. Sat in the same seat. Oh, wow. Okay. Roger Ashby has been here. Yeah, yeah. Sat in the same seat.

Oh, wow. Okay. Marilyn Dennis' people, not her, her people told me she was too busy to do this show. I just think

you should know that. Yeah, I believe her. I believe them. She's very busy. I see Marilyn for like three hours a day and then I don't hear from her

until the next morning. Too many jobs. Is that it? Yeah, she's quite busy but she's one of the best. I always like that story because I wrote her an email and her people got back to me.

Typically in Canada, I know it's different in the States. We'll talk about that. But in Canada, usually it's very rare you get somebody who's so big that you have to talk to their people. Bruh, it's Marilyn Dennis.

Like one thing I learned when I got here, okay, so I turn on my TV and, you know, I get my new Canadian cable. With who did you go with, Rogers or Bell? No, not even. I got some small company

called Beanfield. Okay. And, like, it's something that my condo provides. And I turn on the cable and I hit the guide and I see the Marilyn Dennis show on, like, 40 different channels

on my TV. I'm like, holy crap. I'm like, on my TV. I'm like, holy crap. I'm like, Marilyn's huge. I was like, that's the girl I work with? Awesome. So yeah, she's very dumb busy. She's super busy, but I love her to death. Hey, is this a swear-free zone?

Yeah, no, you can swear. Oh, good, good, because I'm a bit of a potty mouth, and it's after the morning show. Yeah, you can swear here because you sure can't swear on chum, right? No, no, no. I have a question. I had a guy earlier today, an executive with Rogers Communications, so the big rival to Bell Media, who signed your paychecks now, I guess.

But he was telling me he wasn't sure if on his properties would he be able to say the word pompous ass. There's a beer from Great Lakes Brewery called Pompous Ass. I don't even know if you got one. But could you say pompous Ass on Chum? Honestly, I can't tell you with confidence if I could because there's a lot of things I'm learning that I would probably say back home that I probably shouldn't say here.

And I would say Pompous Ass back home in the States on the radio. And I don't think anyone would bat an eye around that, but I get the feeling that here, like the queen might execute me or something. I don't know anyone would bat an eye around that, but I get the feeling that here, like, the queen might execute me or some shit. I don't know, so I'm just like, whoa. It's true, because now you've got Canadian

money, right, and you see her face on it. Yes, it's quite funny, actually. You guys need to do something about that. Like, come on. Dead that queen shit already. You just got to be careful when you throw the stones, because there's some funky stuff up here, but there's some funky stuff down there.

Everyone knows about our funky stuff. No one knows about your funky stuff. And that's what I'm here to do. I'm here to expose Canada's funky stuff to the world. We deserve this. No, we deserve it. Because we're Canadians, we'll take it and we'll apologize to you.

You know what I mean? We apologize for lots of stuff up here. It's like, you know what? I'm actually at a point now where like, if I accidentally bump into somebody, I don't know,

I'm going grocery shopping and I accidentally bump, no, I'm sorry, somebody accidentally bumps into me. Like I'm just picking a can of soup off the thing and someone bumps into me.

I turn around and say, I'm sorry. Mike, the first week I was here, when I was looking for a place to live, I was somewhere on, I think, Queen Street, maybe?

Yeah, okay. And it was late at night and I was walking around and I was trying to find something to eat and a bicycle dude was in the bike lane and he's trucking down the lane

and he almost hits me. Dude, that was me. No, it wasn't. Anyway, almost hits me and listen, I'm originally from New York City. Okay. I'm not opposed to getting bumped in the road or almost hit by something, someone, whatever.

So I'm like, oh, dude, dude almost hit me. He turns around and as he's flying down the road, he goes, sorry. And I was like, what? I was like, why do you just apologize? We're in the middle of downtown Toronto. Welcome to Canada. But that was my first interaction with the Toronto, sorry. But my second interaction with just Toronto niceness in general was another late night. I was here looking for a place to live. And I had gotten in on a really late flight. And I had taken the train to downtown. And then I had to take the subway to get to where I was going. But unfortunately, it was late at night, and the kiosks or whatever were closed where the

guys, the personnel usually stand. Right, right. And I couldn't buy a Presto card or tokens or whatever. So I'm standing there like a foreigner at the turnstile going, what the hell do I do? A guy goes to the turnstile, and he keeps walking, and then I'm standing there like, shoot, what do I do? How am guy goes to the turnstile and he keeps walking and then i'm standing there like shoot what do i how am i gonna get through this guy bends the corner goes around and like a minute later he comes back and he goes hey bro do you have a do you have a presto card i'm like no and he came and swiped me through oh yeah that's like let me repeat mike he don't do that in like

new york he was out of sight i could not see him because he had turned the corner. His conscience made him turn around and swipe me. Can I help a brother out? That's how we're thinking. Toronto Mike, nowhere in all of New York City, which is my favorite place on Earth, will that ever happen. Which of the boroughs are you from?

I'm originally from Queens. Everything I know comes from the Beastie Boys. I'm just doing Queens. Queens. Okay. So I, cause everything I know comes from the Beastie Boys. I'm just doing it to the five boroughs. Okay. Queens. Yeah. Yeah.

So is that where the Mets play? Yeah. That's where the Mets play. They play it in a, in a, in a historic stadium called Shea. That's gone now.

Cause they had that sign that said no pepper games. Exactly. I used to like, you know what I like? Okay. So I grew up getting, you'd be get,

we still get Buffalo stations back when TV mattered, right? Like when you only had TV and there's a station at a Buffalo that would air, it would air Mets games we still get Buffalo stations back when TV mattered, right? Like when you only had TV. And there's a station at a Buffalo that would air Mets games. And I was a massive Dwight Gooden fan. Yeah, Dwight.

Those were the best years. Dwight Gooden, Strawberry. Those are... Who was David? Keith Hernandez. Hernandez, David Cohn. Yeah, he was young coming up. I'm not sure.

Yeah, he was coming up. Mike Piazza was the catcher, right? Eventually, yeah. Yeah, those were good years. I would like watch these Dwight Gooden games, and he'd pitch on a Saturday at Shea Stadium. I loved it. How many Ks will Dwight get?

They called him Dr. K. Amazing times. And that was a really good team. They eventually win the World Series against the Red Sox because Mookie Wilson hits the ball, and Buckner goes through his legs. Good stuff. Game six, that was, I think.

So yeah, and the Mets. I'm a Queen, too. On the side of the stadium, it said no Pepper Games forever. I mean, there was no Google back then. I haven't remembered to Google it until you mentioned it now, Shea Stadium. But can you tell me what that means? What are Pepper Games? I'm not the biggest baseball fan. I don't even know what's baseball Pepper Games. You'd have to look that up, honestly.

And I was very young at the time. But yeah, I'm from Queens. I'm from a small, I'm from like the smallest part of Queens. I'm from a place called Rockaway.

It's a beach town in like the bottom of Queens. Okay. And are you now learning the Toronto boroughs? Like there's six of them. Can you name them? Yeah, let me see if I can.

Okay. So I know you know, you have Toronto proper. Yeah. Right. Then is the other one Mississauga? No, that's not even Toronto. Really?

That's a standalone city. They have their own mayor, and yeah, completely independent. Okay, so then you got, what's the other one with an S? Scarborough? Yes, Scarborough. Is it Tobacco? Yep, which you're in right now. Right.

Brampton? Nope, that's like Mississauga. That's a standalone city with their own mayor. Jeez, someone told me these already. You're only batting like 500 here. But that's good. So you got this repeat. You got Toronto and Scarborough.

Right. And Etobicoke. And Etobicoke. So you're halfway there. So I need two more. Yeah. No, I need three more, right? Three more.

Oh, jeez. In fact, I'm not... Yeah. I don't know. You're going to have to hit me. They're tough. These are tough. Well, North York is one. North York. Okay. And then there's York. Okay. Well, I'm not... Yeah. I don't know. You're going to have to hit me. They're tough. These are tough. Well, North York is one.

North York. Okay. And then there's York. Okay. Well, that's a gimme. York and North York. Okay. And then there's East York.

Wait, those three are the three? Yeah. So you're missing all the Yorks. North, East, and York? Yeah. Yeah. So there's York, North York, and East York. Gotcha.

And then, of course, Scarborough and... Etobicoke, Toronto. That's the six. I always wondered, was that the six or did he take... Because we have two... We had two area codes. I think they added a new one. But it was 416 for everyone when I was growing up. And then they added the 647.

And then I figured, well, 416 to the 647, the six kind of links them. I thought maybe that was the 6. Yeah, that sounds like a good t-shirt idea. I'm sure someone's done it. Or like a hat. Well, we could do it anyway.

I mean, I'm sure someone's done it. As long as you talk it up on Chum. Yeah, that's what's up. All right. So first of all, thanks for coming. Welcome to Toronto. Thank you. How long have you been here now?

I got here on July 15th. So whatever the math is from there, that's how long I've been. About three months. I paid like three rents. math is from there. About three months. I paid like three rents. Almost exactly three months. So I want to tell the listeners first, let me just quickly address my listeners here. So we had

Moe Berg was here yesterday from the Pursuit of Happiness. Scott Moore was here today from Rogers Communications. And I'm now Jamar. And I'm here to tell you that if you can't find something to sink your teeth into of those three episodes, then this is not the podcast for you.

That's what I'm here to tell you. I'm here to tell you. Thanks for listening, though. If you are listening, you power this podcast. Thanks so much. And again, patreon.com slash Toronto Mike

if you want to become a Toronto Mike patron. Patreon.com slash Toronto Mike. I have links on TorontoMike.com. Even a dollar a month and you'll be my best friend forever. That's pretty cheap there. Jamar, you've already dove in. Which beer

are you drinking? The Canuck? This is the Canuck. This is the GLB Canuck and it's quite tasty. Is it cold enough though? I'm not really a big beer guy, so it doesn't have to be that cold. It just has to taste good. Well, enjoy and take the rest home with you. There's also a pumpkin. cold? I'm not really a big beer guy, so it doesn't have to be that cold. It just has to taste good. Well, yeah. Enjoy and take the rest home with you. There's also a pumpkin. Shut up.

There is a pumpkin. Really? That's yours to take home. Thank you, bro. That's really nice of you to run a mic. So did you think for a moment, maybe they do this in New York? I don't know. Do they put six packs in front of you and then not let you take it home? You know what? I have no idea. You know, I'm sure it's a nice gesture.

Sounds to me, oh, you thought it was a prop. I think it's just a you thing. I thought it was a sponsor thing, you know? Yeah, I can see if we had video

or something, you'd want to have the sponsor product. I mean, you've got the coasters and such. Oh yeah, man.

I appreciate the beers, bro. And these walls have never been cleaner because Chris Brown from Chris Brown Painting, who's painting upstairs, you met him.

When Scott Moore came over, I didn't share this on that episode, he thought we were brothers. Oh, wow. You guys kind of look alike, yeah. Well, I said we don't all look alike. That's racist. No, no, no, no, no.

There is a resemblance there, you know? And we have the salt and pepper hair, similar bodies, like similar height, like a 5'9 and kind of slim or whatever. And we have those deep blue eyes going on. Let me ask you a question. So I heard that there was already some conversation about me on Toronto Mike. Like, what's that

about? I'm going to play a clip. I'm going to play a clip. So I want to give you that gift you have. Thank you. But let me play... I have a sponsor, a great guy named Brian Gerstein, who is a real estate sales representative with PSR Brokerage. Do you own a house here? No, no. I just got here. But are you ever going

to own a house here? Maybe someday. Yeah, maybe someday. Okay, well, Brian's your guy. Okay. Brian's your guy. Propertyinthesix.com. Propertyinthesix.com? You can't forget that now.

Okay. It's forever. But I'm going to play a question Brian has for you. Okay. So let's hear from Brian. Propertyinthesix.com. Hi, Jamar. Brian Gerstein here,

sales representative with PSR Brokerage and proud sponsor of Toronto Mic'd. Welcome to The Six. I have VIP access to the hottest condo project going on in 2018, King Toronto. Call me at 416-873-0292 so I can fill you in. Jamar, you came to Toronto with no friends or family here. When I moved to Toronto from Montreal, not only did I have a lot of family here, but I was able to hook up with several friends and have a weekly poker game. So the transition was easy.

How are things going on that front? And do you have any poker games set up yet? Let's dive deeper into... Well, you didn't come from New York, right? You came from Chicago, which we'll talk about in a minute. So you came from Chicago. You have no friends and family here not well i i don't want to give some people who are who've been good to me here a disservice were they good to you before you got here uh i i started making some connections here before i got here i have a good

friend of mine i'm named steven um he's a he's a a producer and a composer and he's a really dope musician and he actually lives in chicago composer and he's a really dope musician. And he actually lives in Chicago. Me and him just kind of met. We bucked up at a common friend's house. And he told me he was from Toronto. At the time, I had no Toronto aspirations or thoughts. And me and him struck up a friendship.

And a couple months into our friendship, I said, Hey, there's this thing happening with me in Toronto. I might need you to be my point man. So then he kind of linked me up with some other guys here. There's a guy by the name of DJ Quest. I'm K-W-E-S.

He's a local DJ around. And another guy named DJ Power. He's a super dope hip hop DJ who actually, I forgot who his brother is, but I think his brother's like a Toronto rap kind of icon. You'd have to like Google that.

Now I need to know who this is. Yeah, DJ Power is one of my boys out here. He's a really good dude, but you have to Google him because I think those two dudes are both Toronto staples. I've been around them since I've been here. They're good friends of mine now.

But no, they're like essentially like the only two people I know here. And how, like how's it, it's been three months now, so you have a bit of time, but I mean, you're renting a place. What neighborhood did you choose? I'm in like the distillery how, like, how's it, it's been three months now, so you have a bit of time, but I mean, you're renting a place. What neighborhood did you choose? I'm in like the distillery area,

like around there. Yeah, it's great, great area. I got married in the distillery. Oh, that's cool. But that's a cool neighborhood you chose,

so that's in the Toronto proper, if you're going to do that whole borough thing. And, okay, so you've settled in there. You've met, I'm guessing in three months, you've met some people?

A couple, you know, my coworkers are pretty cool. You know met, I'm guessing in three months, you've met some people? A couple. You know, my co-workers are pretty cool. Marilyn is awesome. Too busy for you, though. She's very busy. She's too busy for herself. Roger's dope. Caitlin's awesome. I love Caitlin. I've never heard Roger referred to as dope before.

He's a good guy, though. Roger's dope. I will translate for him. He's dope. He's awesome. You know, a couple of other people at the station who I've been kicking it with. You know, I've done this a bunch, Toronto Mike, so I'm a little jaded. Like, I've lived in so many different cities and had to restart my life. But not different countries. I mean, although we speak the same language.

We speak the same language. And we watch the same movies and TV shows. Kind of, at times. Like, sometimes people say stuff here that I'm just like, what? Like, they say some things and I'm just like, why? They say some things and I'm just like, please Americanize that for me so I can understand

what you're talking about. Essentially, I don't want to say it's all the same stuff because I don't want to give Canadians a disservice. Has anybody come up to you and said,

hey, you want to go out for a rip? Or something like that? I could use some context clues and feel like maybe that's a weed or alcohol reference. That's alcohol, yeah. That's alcohol, okay. Now, back in the States, if you want to take a rip off a feel like maybe that's a weed or alcohol reference. That's alcohol, yeah.

That's alcohol, okay. Now, back in the States, if you want to take a rip off a bong, that's weed. That's on the agenda. We're going to talk about that because this is a very special day you're here. Tell me about it. It's crazy. In fact, let me check the clock. Three, about 3 p.m.

We're doing the math. Yeah, something happens in several hours. We need to talk about it. It's a special time, yeah. So, no, I haven't made a ton of friends here, but I've done this a bunch of times, so I know it's a process. I'll be your friend.

Thank you. You have a friend in me. If you ever need an Etobicoke friend, I'm right here for you. Thanks. And I can hook you up with more of this,

if you start to fall in love with the Canuck Pale Ale. Yeah, it's tasty. They're near here. That's a local craft brewery. Word. They're fantastic. So thank you, Brian.

That's a great question. So he was lucky. Montreal, a lot of people, there's a great question uh he so he was lucky montreal a lot of people a lot of there's a lot of ex-montrealers in toronto every second torontonian i meet came from montreal like i i think they all just realized they should be in the center of the universe why are you so i was told i was told that torontonians have much of the uh torontonian um what do you call it a superiority complex as as Montrealians have the inferiority complex. That I was told. And now it's holding true.

It might be true. Which I actually appreciate because I'm a New Yorker and I do believe I come from the center of the earth. Yeah, see, I think it's very similar to that. I think New York does believe they're the center of the universe, but we just think we're the center of the country. That's fine. We don't think we're better than New York.

We just think we're better center of the country that's fine we're not trying we don't we don't think we're better than new york we just think we're better than the rest of canada i i truly believe that toronto and new york should be like sister cities i really think so i think there's something really similar about our dispositions and our and our cult culturally and diversity right and diversity very diversity yeah i mean i mean we're cut from a little bit of a different cloth because of the america canadian thing but the way we roll in town, I think they're very similar. Someone once explained it to me when I was very young that America was like a melting pot. So all these different cultures kind of melt

together to become like American. Or in Canada, kind of. It's very simple, but they said in Canada, it was more of a mosaic, so a patchwork. So, for example, my wife is of Filipino descent. So her family, they're Canadian, they're Torontonian, but they are from the Philippines and they keep their culture intact. And you just have this for like hundreds of different countries.

Now, here's the deal in America. Like certain cities are just like that. New York is one of them. So I'm a New Yorker, but I'm without a doubt, I'm 100% Jamaican. And I let people know that at all stops if they don't know I'm Jamaican. I was born in New York, but my mom and dad are from Jamaica. I've spent a very, very large time part of my life in the country. I go there a couple of times a year. And for the most part, New Yorkers, that's how they roll. They are very tied to the mother country, whatever that may be. And so in that respect,

I would say New York is one of those cities where we do that. Whereas if you go to like I don't know, what's another city with immigrants but not just like New York? You mean in America? In America, I'd say like a Chicago. Where I came from. International city in some respects. Culturally diverse.

But I would say it's more of like a second generation-y, third generation-y place rather than New York, which is like, you know, you're like one step away from other country in our disposition.

Interesting. That's what I'm saying. So you're not going to have any culture shock with the diversity here coming from New York. No, it's actually very,

very, it's a breath of fresh air. It's actually very, I don't know, it feels good fish air. It's actually very, I don't know. It feels good. It reminds me of home. So I bike a lot. I bike throughout the city. And even on bike rides, I'll hear on a typical bike ride on a nice day,

I'll hear like six or seven different languages on my bike ride. And sometimes I hear, it'll be a long time before I hear people talking in English. A lot of Russian near here, a lot of Polish near here. Yeah, it's very interesting that people keep their mother tongue. I was at the OPP, was it OPP or Service Ontario, excuse me,

to get my driver's license. Okay, yeah, yeah. And I just hear all these languages and I'm like, jeez, where the hell am I? I hear 10 different languages in here. At one point, one of the ladies,

one of the clerks, she goes, excuse me, does anyone speak Turkish? Like, I hear 10 different languages in here. At one point, one of the ladies, one of the clerks, she goes, excuse me, does anyone speak Turkish? Yeah, but somebody might. Because I guess she had a Turkish guy at her counter and she couldn't speak to him. That sounds like Toronto. Yeah, it was very funny. So you alluded to this earlier.

So let's cut to the chase here. I recently did a podcast with Mark Weisblot from 1236. And we spent two hours just talking about changes in the Canadian media landscape. Okay. Be it print or radio or television, whatever. And of course, we spend some time talking about the changes at Chum. Because there were a couple of changes at Chum recently. Firstly, a rebranding.

There's a new positioning. Chum, make Toronto pop. So I called it in the intro i called it chum fm that i'm dating myself now right it's not you don't call it now the fm's gone yeah the fm is gone it's now chum 104.5 chum make toronto pop make toronto pop and it's kind of like a play on words a bit because you play pop music right we play pop music but we're trying to make Toronto pop in terms of the action, the flavor, the flair, just the feeling of just being current

and just make Toronto have fun. So that's one change is that branding. And then the second change is they said they were announcing a third person was going to join the team. So it was Roger Ashby. He's been there. Well, he's been at Chum proper forever. Yeah.

And Chum FM. I hear somewhere close to like 50 years or something like that. Yeah, like I had him here and I think it was late 60s. I think he's the last broadcaster in the city who was on the air in the 60s. Amazing.

So 69, I think. I would say 69 for Ashby. Amazing. And Marilyn who came, by the way, Marilyn also, she's not Torontonian. She's not... Yeah, she's from Pittsburgh or something like that.

I thought it was Edmonton. She's from Edmonton, but she spent some time in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. I know that for a fact. I'll take her word for it. I know she's at some... Alberta? Is it Alberta or Edmonton?

Edmonton is in Alberta. Jesus. Alberta is the province. Can you name the provinces? That was the most American thing I've ever said. That was bad. Three months is not that long. Okay.

But most Canadians can actually name 50 states. Can I name all the provinces? Can you name any of the provinces? I know Quebec. I know Newfoundland. Yep. I know Alberta. Yep.

Ontario, of course. Of course. And I know the northern territories. Well, there's three different territories. There's the Northwest Territory. Is there a Yukon Territory? There's a Yukon Territory. And there's a newer one.

New to me because it wasn't there when I was learning this stuff in school. Saskatchewan, I know. That's a province, yeah. That's a province. That's all I can remember right now. Well, you're missing the big one on the Pacific. Oh, not Manitoba.

No, but that's one too. Is it? That's a province. Okay, Manitoba. And on the Pacific. Oh, not Manitoba. No, but that's one too. Is it? That's a problem. Okay, Manitoba and on the Pacific, Vancouver's in... British Columbia. British Columbia. Yeah, yeah. So you miss New Brunswick and Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island.

And I'm not going to be like your teacher to tell you that Newfoundland now goes by the name Newfoundland and Labrador. Oh, yes. I've seen that on a map. But I'm better than most Americans, aren't I? Oh, yeah. That's pretty good. Okay, cool. And the third territory, which is kind of new, is Nunavut. Nunavut. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've seen that. I've seen that. But where was I going with this? Oh, yeah. So let's play the clip of Mark Weisblatt talking about you. This was on Toronto Mic pretty recently. Okay. Let's play it. I grew up listening to Chum. I was the biggest Chum bug in the early 1980s

as far as following what was going on there. We speculated for years about when Roger Ashby was going to retire. And I think this guy that they hired to replace him is a remarkable choice. I'm all in with this guy. Oh i i had i hadn't heard him yet i got comments in the early days that he didn't know how to pronounce the name of our city and i thought good i don't either so i was feeling well yeah there's a bit of a fish out of water effect right like here's a black american coming in to work for Chum. Chum historically was a very white radio station, right? They were not known for having on-air diversity.

There's still enough of a legacy there that, you know, you can still pick apart the fact that at one point in the early 1980s, 1050 Chum didn't even play any black artists at all. They were trying to work against the disco backlash and that if something was a big hit by a black artist, they wouldn't even put it on the air. But for that matter, they also discriminated against Olivia Newton-John's physical. So it wasn't a matter of color. It really came down to the sound. So I'm listening here to Roger, Marilyn, and Jamar.

Here's Roger. He's, what, pushing 70 years of age? Yep. He's working in the same room as this guy that's going to succeed him. And I think that dynamic is great. I think this is like nothing that we've ever heard before in radio as far as these people getting along and working together, you know, people that come from different points on the cultural spectrum. And a lot of the off-the-cuff comments

that Jamar makes are worth paying attention to. I mean, there's just something subversive about it that I wouldn't have expected from Bell Media in 2018. So there you go. That's funny. He loves it. And he, tell me, is this true? That's a very analytical analysis. He's astute.

No, this is every quarter he comes over and we do like two hours plus. And the more beer he consumes, the more astute his analysis is. Interesting. And yeah, he's all in on Jamar McNeil. I appreciate that. I mean, I kind of saw a couple comments or like texts from people who are like, what the hell is this American guy doing here? Does he know who his audience is?

I'm just like, eh, whatever. So is that just something that happens like in the beginning? And if you've been here how long you've been on the air three months three months okay so yeah like i was gonna ask you about the feedback so feedback's been overwhelmingly really really good honestly like i i i'm not the type of pat myself on the back type of guy but i have to say that i am even surprised how much people have like reached out to me on their own unsolicited and just say hey jamar i really love having you on the station i've been listening to chum for such and such years decades whatever whatever my mom sisters uh my kids whatever we all listen and we love you i've been i've i've lived i've worked in many cities and i've got to tell you i've never been

so warmly received as i have in toronto it's almost like, I don't want to say scary, but it's kind of like, I just feel like the bar is so high now because people have said such nice things to me that I'm just like, gosh, I don't want to disappoint you guys. I'm just a pretty regular dude, but I really appreciate all the love I've been getting. There's been a couple of haters, a little bit here and there. Okay, so I wrote about you on my blog okay dot com

and so i would get people who kind of like i guess people like to go to google and they'll google like do new chum morning show or something and they end up on my site okay so these are not necessarily like like regular readers of toronto mike but people who are wanting to discuss the jamar mcneil edition okay to uh chump so i had a the big thing i got the beginning the very very beginning like day one or two was that you didn't even know how to say the name of our city that's awesome but let me i gotta stop you right there yeah i want to set a lot of people listen to this podcast right like so of course guys i i don't know if you knew this but nobody outside of fucking toronto knows how to say toronto you get like this this is this is is one of the hidden secrets of the city.

Outside of these gates, everyone says Toronto. When you get here, everyone says Toronto, and you're just like, oh, okay. And there's a little learning curve here, but I got to tell you, I've been all over this place, like North America and out of the borders. Everyone says Toronto. I got your

back on that one, and I can prove it. I always had your back on that one, because I say that word a million times, and yes, often it'll be Toronto. I got your back on that one, and I can prove it. I always had your back on that one, because I say that word a million times. And yes, often it'll be Toronto. Toronto, yeah. Now I'm too conscious of it. I'm thinking too much. I usually get Toronto, Toronto.

But sometimes when I'm like, if I'm reading a script especially, but sometimes I like to punch the T. There's something fun about saying Toronto, like nailing that T. But here's the other dynamic for me personally. I'm West Indian. Yes. And Caribbean people say Toronto. Like the accent,

the Caribbean accent is like, yeah, I'm going to go Toronto tomorrow. Like Toronto. No Caribbean people would say Toronto. So, I mean, it's just got those both things working against you. Well, there's a lot of Toronto is from the West Indies. I mean, you know, a massive segment of the Toronto populace comes from like Jamaica or Trinidad.

I know. I know. That was one of the things that made me most happy about coming here. In fact, you know, so they would, for example, in America, they might refer to somebody as an African-American. Right. Right. Like there is no, we don't do African-Canadian because I don't, somebody from Jamaica,

that's not in Africa. Yeah, and most Jamaicans don't really use African as their kind of... Identifier. Identifier. Most Jamaicans know very well that they are of African descent,

but it's, you know, in the island proper, everyone says, I'm a Jamaican. I'm a Jamaican. Most people say, I'm a black person or, you know, we all know we're from Africa. Most, everyone says, I'm a Jamaican. Most people say, I'm a black person. We all know we're from Africa.

90% of Jamaica is of African descent. But yeah, that's an American thing. Your point, so, I mean, of course, you would know, but JJ, I'll give a shout out to JJ from Trinidad, who's a regular listener and comments on the open mics on TorontoMic.com. But she was pointing out that, yes,

in the Caribbean accent or dialect, you know, you would hit that T. Toronto. That is a very Caribbean thing to do. It's like, I'm going to Toronto. Yep. Now that you say it, I can hear it now. Toronto, yeah. So, I mean, you know.

Hey, if I asked you to say what city I come from, what would you say? New York. Exactly. And guess what? No one in come from, what would you say? New York. Exactly. And guess what? No one in New York says New York. We say New York. You take off that R. But guess what?

If you go to New York and you say New York, no one will razz you about it. We'll just say, oh, you're just obviously not from town. I thought that would be too close to Newark. No. No, that's Newark. That's Newark. That's Newark and New York. Two different places.

Okay, so other than this silly can't pronounce Toronto, and then of course the initial, I got a bunch of comments about how couldn't they find a suitable Canadian? You know what I mean? There's no one in Canada. I mean, maybe they could, but they didn't.

But again, I have more. Some of my notes I did write this down, but not that it matters. But there's so many of our media personalities are actually American. If you really want to know, it's always been that way. There's so many big time. Even at CHUM, there was always a lot of personalities that came from the USA. But you know, a lot of our big celebrities in America come from Canada. A ton of them. I know. Jim Carrey, for example. Michael J. Freaking Fox, the man. Like, can I tell you how big of a Back to the Future and Teen Wolf and

Family Ties fan I was? Right in my wheelhouse, man. So like, come on, Canada, America, like we're back and forth, like swap and spit, swap and spit. We've been sharing forever. Oh, man, for sure. I mean, Dan Aykroyd. There's so many people living in America making Americans laugh that actually come from Canada. Rick Moranis. Rick Moranis. He's Canadian, isn't he?

I want to make sure. And Dave Thomas is definitely Canadian. Eugene Levy is definitely Canadian. John Candy was Canadian. But is Rick Moran is Canadian? I think he is. Jim Carrey is definitely Canadian. Yeah.

And Martin Short's Canadian. Martin Short. Who else? Yeah, I like this game. A bunch of dudes. Drake, you know, Weekend. I mean, you know, whatever. So I don't know.

Those two for sure. That whole like, I don't know. That thing, I don't know. We spent too much time on that question. That's just so stupid of me. Let's move on. So the feedback's been good since then. Thank you.

The feedback's been good since then. Thank you. No, the feedback's been awesome. I mean, in my corner, I mean, you know, I'm not saying my path is paved in gold. I obviously have to make sure that we create a bond with the audience and entertain every morning consistently and people like my addition to the show,

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did you know that? But John Donabee, who, John Donabee is long time radio vet. Yeah. He's known Roger forever. He came on this show to tell me that he knew for a fact

that Roger was signing off for good at the end of the year. Wow. Now, I know that's not public anywhere, but he said it as fact. So I'm sure that's where Mark heard it. I now, in my head, I've decided this must be true. Okay. Because Donabee said it. Do you know anything about this? No.

Okay. Look me in the eyes. I've been looking you in the eye. I know. You don't know that Roger might be stepping down at the end of the year. I will tell you this. I don't know that anybody in their career would appreciate somebody talking about their career. I don't know Roger. Is that a no comment? No, it's not a no comment.

I'm making a comment. The comment is I don't know Roger's Social Security number or SIN number. I don't know his credit card numbers. I don't know how much he pays on his home. I know his wife, but not very well. And I would never speak on any of those things. So whatever Roger Ashby does with his career is for him

to speak about. And I wouldn't comment on that. But I will tell you this. The three months I've been working with Roger Ashby have been awesome. I've been learning a lot with him. And how can I replace someone who I'm with? Yeah, replace is not the right word. You're a three-man booth, but at some point,

he will want to retire, and it seems like it's happening at the end of 2018. We don't know. We haven't heard from Roger. When Roger is ready to hang up his headphones, I will be right there, hopefully, to applaud him because from what I'm learning about his career, it's quite... I don't know anybody in the States who's on the air still

who's been on the air as Roger, as long as Roger. I could probably think of a... I don't know anybody in the States who's on the air still who's been on the air as Roger, as long as Roger. Like, I could probably think of a, I don't know. It's a freaking cool story. Yeah. And as I get to know him more and more, he shows me little pictures and trinkets and things from the past. So he'll show me, like, the top 40 countdown. Yes. The pictures that he's on.

And I'm just like, fuck. I'm like, Roger, you're the man, bro. And he's like, I know. It's pretty cool. He tells me some great stories. And I guess what I'm trying to say is that as I'm learning Toronto and I'm learning Chum, one of the cool things I'm learning also

is the legacy of Chum and the legacy of Roger Ashby. And that's one of the really cool things that's happening in that building. I've been doing morning radio for a while and I've kind of been kind of at the top of the really cool things that's happening in that building that i'm you know i've been doing morning radio for a while and i've kind of been kind of at the top of the heap in in in terms of my career for a while but i'm i'm back in a position where i'm learning from somebody again and i really really enjoy that and you're having fun oh i'm having a i'm having a blast man so i can imagine it would be fun to work with roger ashby because you know age is nothing but a number

i don't know if you know that. I mean, we come from different times. Don't get it twisted. Like me and Roger come from two totally different worlds in terms of time. But, you know, good people can always find a connection point, which is usually humor and stories. And even if he tells me a story that like sounds like from another time and space, it's usually funny. And I appreciate it. And likewise, I tell him some shit that he's just like, what? I space, it's usually funny. And I appreciate it. And likewise, I tell him some shit

that he's just like, what? I'm like, yeah. I'll bet. I'm like, yeah, Roger, that's what's going on right now. And he's just like, really? And it's actually really, really funny. Well, that's a sitcom waiting to happen, right?

Yeah. I mean, I can see what, when Wise Blot alludes to that, that's an interesting dynamic and that you guys have chemistry. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's really cool.

And he was on, of course, 1050 Chum, dynamic and that you guys have chemistry it's uh amazing that's amazing it's really cool and he uh he was on of course 10 50 chum which was the there was a monster top 40 radio station so i mean you talk to anybody i don't know in their 50s and 60s uh and 70s uh they grew up listening to chum uh am yeah yeah so you know one of the cool experiences for me also is the the fact i'm coming here blind. Like, I don't know shit about anything. No history. No history, no nothing.

And some people will come in, maybe. Some people will say like, oh, he doesn't know enough. He doesn't appreciate it, which could probably seem like to my detriment. But I think it's a strength, you know? I'm not coming in going, oh, I'm not worthy. Chum, chum, chum, chum. I'm not worthy. Roger, roger, roger. I'm just coming in and having oh, I'm not worthy, chum, chum, chum, chum. I'm not worthy, roger, roger, roger.

I'm just coming in and having a good time, you know? And I think what people want in the morning is just somebody that can come relate to them, talk to them about shit that they can relate to, maybe some stuff they've never heard before that they can laugh about, and not come with all the like, oh, I'm so thankful, which I am thankful. But, I mean, it's not about that. The listeners just want to have fun and learn some new stuff and meet some cool people. And that's what I'm here to do.

So in Chicago. Yeah. By the way, you're now Jamar McNeil, which is your name, right? Yeah, that's my full name. So there was no thoughts to maybe you'd be Jay Nice? You know what? I was in Chicago. I've been Jay Nice my whole career.

I've been Jay Nice since the sixth grade. Oh, wow. Okay. Back in the day, if there are any old school hip hop heads listening, there was a group called Nice and Smooth. Hip hop junkies.

I played yesterday. My point, my dude, Mike. Toronto Mike gets the stripes. He gets his hip hop. I played yesterday. He just hit his hip hop stripes or you must have

already had them. Anyway, Nice and Smooth was like one of my favorite groups and Greg Nice from Nice and Smooth like was my dude, my MC.

So I was like yeah he's greg nice i'm jay nice i couldn't call myself jamar nice right no yeah i'm with you now now it makes sense because i like nice and smooth too yeah i really liked him like and then they did uh they took the um do do do do uh fast car for crazy champion and they did a sample exactly yeah yeah yeah and i still kind of have the lyrics. Sometimes I'm slow, sometimes I'm quick. That's right. I'm like, that's a heavy jam. That's a story.

I'll put you into rehab and I won't tell your folks. What do you know? In 18 months, she came home and I let her back in. Are you kicking bars for me right now, Toronto Bike? Is that what's happening? Weak, weak bars, yes. Wild, wild.

Anyways, you said nice as well. In fact, our MTV is called Much Music. Yes, yes. I would, with my VHS video recorder, I would record spotlights. And they have these programs where they just played videos from one band or whatever. So when the nice and smooth spotlight came on, I recorded it just so I had every video they ever released on there. Man, so like, that was one of my favorite,

like that hip hop junkies, bong, bong, bong. Yeah, because that's the Partridge family. Yeah, I think I love you. I think I love you. But I'm not kidding. I listened to that song yesterday.

Did you? Hip hop junkies? Swear to you. Sick, man. In fact, it was for someone else's podcast, not mine, and I,

so that was actually a recording of me talking about that song and listening to it last night. Toronto Mike, that's really special. Like, that's kind of wild else's podcast not mine and i so there's actually a recording of me talking about that song and listening to it last night toronto mike that's really special like we like that's kind of wild that i brought up that song and you listened to it yesterday because it's an old freaking crusty song but it's still a classic anyway i call myself jay nice because i loved greg nice so much that i said i'm gonna be jay nice and um that's who i've been like you know when i was a kid you know we've been the playground like acting like we're rappers i you know i'm jay nice you know i got my book bag and

did graffiti on my book bag that's great jay nice then eventually when i started djing um i started playing like a lot of hip-hop and a lot of dance hall and reggae and soak up when i was young you know i'd say i'm jay nice and that moniker kind of just followed me throughout my career and did you always have the two eyes and nice yeah because i just figured you know like one eye was not nice enough so i had to put that's smart because then you could get the twitter handle and stuff right there's only one like lincoln park remember lincoln park exactly spell it wrong so you can get the domain name so you can be unique of course that's the but it's not just about that it's about the flavor when you see jay nice with two a's two i's it just has a little more flavor but okay so and i

now i'm gonna ask you about this recruitment process so but i wanted to set the stage so you're in process yeah because you're recruited right what's the freaking military lord come on it's like uh linkedin right like okay speaking of lincoln park is linkedin but okay so you're uh just you're at you're in Chicago. You're J-Nice. Yeah. And you're on B96. Yeah, B96, yeah. So you were on B96 for a long time, right? 10 years, yeah.

Wow. 10 years doing mornings there, yeah. I read this thing from six years ago, like B96 reboots morning show after Julian jumps. This is the article. Yeah, because I was doing mornings when I started at B96. I started B96 doing middays, and then they made a change in their morning show. They had an epic morning show called Eddie and Jobo.

And then when those guys left, they moved me up to mornings, and then they moved me up to mornings for middays, and they moved Julian up for nights. And Julian was a guy that I worked with way back in the day in Washington, D.C., so we already knew each other. So they moved this up to the morning show. But then Julian, maybe like three years after that. He jumped to the competition? No, he left and went to Arizona. Okay. He went to do an afternoon show in Arizona, and then they just kind of rebranded the show

as The J Show. But then it went another six years, it sounds like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so how do you end up taking a gig with Chum? You know what? I was looking to make a change, and I talked to, I have an agent who kind of fields opportunities for a bunch of different clients,

and he told me about something in Toronto, and I said, oh, Toronto. And I kind of thought about it, and I've always wanted to be in a city kind of like Toronto. I like the idea of working internationally because I just love learning the world and learning different cultures. And it just sounded right to me. So I said, yeah, Toronto, absolutely. You know, there were other things that were kind of in the pipeline.

But this actually sounded like if I wanted to make a change, this was the best change to make. And I think I'm pretty happy with the choice so far. So my question is, before you sign on the dotted line, do they want you to do a chemistry test with Roger and Marilyn? Chemistry test? You know what I mean?

Where they swab my cheek or something? No. That's a different test, Jamal. Chemistry test? Like a fake show where maybe you guys... No, I don't think it's even really that complicated. We kind of just all talk. And, you know, we're radio personalities,

and a lot of it is about personality. And you just kind of get a vibe from people, you know? So you sit and talk, and we say, you know, what's this show about, and what are you about? And if you could be a part of a morning show, what would you contribute, and what do you like about morning radio? And then you just kind of evaluate

if the things that you were saying coincide or kind of intersect with what they're saying. And if we're all on the same page, you get a vibe and you say, yeah, we see, you know, no one agrees on everything, but you get a sense when you're talking to people if we're like on the same page

and we kind of just had some conversations. We're on the same page. And we kind of just had some conversations. We're on the same page. That's the chemistry test. I guess that's the chemistry test, if you want to call it that. Because, I mean, of course, after that, I'm sure management goes to like Maryland and like, can you see yourself working with this guy? Like, you know, that kind of a... I mean, listen, they've been working together for how many years? So, I mean, at the end of the day...

This is like the mid-80s. I mean, listen, they've been working together for how many years? So, I mean, at the end of the day... This is like the mid-80s. At the end of the day, I mean, I can't say that this is how it happened, but I do believe it has to be their call to allow me into their room because it was their show. But, and I'm, you know, I'm pretty confident that they said, yeah, bring them in.

But I think, you know, if you're talking about a test of sorts, it was really just a matter of us kind of getting together, all of us, and talking. You need to click. You like each other. Yeah, seeing if there's some chemistry and seeing if there's a vibe. There was a definite vibe.

You passed the chemistry test. That's why you're here today. Thank you, sir. It is kind of unusual. We don't see this very often where somebody comes out from Chicago to take a... Because you're not just coming on some

Mickey Mouse radio station in the middle of nowhere. This is a very big... One of the biggest stations in Canada. I know, but I prefer not to know that. I don't want to know that. I want to just come and just chill. It's not as big as it used to be, so that's why you're here.

It's going to be... It's still a massive station. I don't measure anyone's dick but mine. So I don't know how big it is. I just want to be there working it. You know what I'm saying? That's dick but mine. So I don't know how big it is. I just want to be there working it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I do. That's something else you probably can't say on Chum, right?

I don't know. Who knows? That and pompous ass. All right. So you're here. Okay, recruitment. You don't like these clinical terms. It sounds too big.

Yeah, because it's like... But I mean, did your agent, I guess, put out feelers and saw there was an opportunity and then people connected. I'm sure you drove up. I literally told him a bunch of cities that I really fuck with. I was like, I like this city, this city, this city. He's a good agent then. Give that guy a bonus. Give him a bonus.

You know how long I've been working. He's been getting mad bonuses for me. Trust me. He doesn't need any more. What percent does that guy take? Who knows? Talk to him. But I've been, I literally told him a list of cities like in and out of the country. I told him a bunch of cities

out of the US that I really, really love. And when I named Toronto, he was like, oh, well, there's a thing in Toronto

going on. And I was like, all right, cool. And we, you know, it wasn't that easy. There had to be

a lot of conversations. You were the right fit. They pounced. We were the right fit because Chum had to be the right fit for me as well. Sure, of course. So we fit together. And the rest is history and progress.

But yeah, it wasn't even so much of a clinical thing as maybe it might be sounding. It was just a matter of just some conversations. And if we're on the same page, we're going to do this. Amazing, amazing. So now you realize you've come, we're going to do this. Amazing. Amazing. So now you realize you've come at an interesting time in Toronto sports. Yeah. Yeah. So what sports when you were in Chicago?

Yeah. You know, New York and Chicago. What were the sports you loved before you got here? So I love to play. My favorite sport to play or sports to play are soccer. I love soccer. I prefer to call it football for sake of not confusing people

it's soccer I love playing soccer it's just like there's something about playing soccer that just fucking just I love it so much

it's a beautiful it's a beautiful game it's truly the beautiful game if you ever watch proper soccer being played correctly with good teams it's so

well I watched the World Cup it's so beautiful and I mean some of the World Cup. It's so beautiful. And I mean, some of the World Cup games were brutal. Some of them are great. But it's a beautiful game. So I love soccer. I like to play lacrosse, actually. That's our national sport. I know that's the national sport of Canada, which is...

So they play in New York, you're playing it? Absolutely. Oh, yeah. I guess I should know that. New York, Long Island. I know. Yeah, okay. Yeah, Long Island, Boston, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maryland. I went to the University of Maryland. absolutely oh yeah i guess i should know new york long island i know yeah okay yeah long island boston uh you know massachusetts connecticut maryland i went to the university of maryland um so these are all big lacrosse towns cool um but yeah um so i love soccer i love lacrosse um and i also love to snowboard so that's not really a team sport but i'm a huge snowboarder oh okay very good very good now what about, do you follow any

pro teams? Yeah, I follow the Yankees. I know that makes you wince a little bit. I'm sorry. But you're from New York, so I would accept that fully. It's never going to change. It's okay. I love the Yankees. And I don't hate the Mets unlike some New Yorkers or Yankee fans, but I like the Mets. I just love the Yankees.

So I follow baseball. I used to follow it a lot more when I was younger, but not so much these days. I used to love the Knickerbockers, but I hate them now because they hate me. And once the Knickerbockers prove to me that they don't hate me anymore, I'll- Can you elaborate?

The Knicks, every season, do the wrong fucking thing. Every season. And then they do something right that gives me a glimmer of hope, i.e. Carmelo Anthony, and then it just falls apart. Or maybe they'll hire some dumbass coach like a Derek Fisher,

which, I mean, no disrespect to Derek Fisher, but why would you hire a guy who half your team has played against as a head coach? I don't get it. I don't know. I could go on and on and on about how the Knicks have destroyed my dreams. You missed the John Starks.

The John Starks thing, that's a whole... I mean, shipping off Patrick Ewing and not making... Like all these things. The Knicks hate me. And for that, I don't support them anymore. But once the Knicks can prove that they don't hate me anymore... Well, adopt this team. Honestly honestly this is the big one year window right because Kawhi Leonard is here

for one season guaranteed the window is sort of now like we could win the Eastern Conference I'll tell you something, you know I had some deep conflict in Chicago trying to follow sports out there because so many of our teams were like bitter rivals like Bears and Giants was like not a really good like crossover

like you can't be a Yankee fan and then all of a sudden be like oh I love the White Sox Teams were like bitter rivals. Like Bears and Giants was like not a really good crossover. Like you can't be a Yankee fan and then all of a sudden be like, oh, I love the White Sox. Or say, oh, I love the Cubs, which I really – I chose one. I chose the White Sox. But yeah, it was tough to be a sports fan in Chicago. The team I follow in Chicago, the heaviest, the two teams I follow the heaviest were the Blackhawks and the Chicago Fire soccer team. Interesting. Yeah, so those were my teams in Chicago. Okay, so you're a big soccer fan. Yeah, I'm a big soccer fan.

Now that that's off of me and I can like... I think there's not a big of a conflict that's following Toronto sports teams for me for some reason. I don't think New York and Toronto have as bitter of rivalry. That makes sense. No, I think you're absolutely right. I can't think of a... We don't have a bitter rivalry. No, we don't think New York and Toronto have as bitter of rivalry. That makes sense. No, I think you're absolutely right. No, I can't think of a – we don't have a bitter rivalry. No, we don't.

I think – I know the Blue Jays don't necessarily like the Yankees. No, no. Okay. No, we have a rivalry with the Yankees. With the Yankees, exactly. But I'm talking about the Chicago team. Yeah, with the Chicago team. Oh, yeah, yeah.

So the big two – I mean, we had the old AL East, right? Right. So all of our rivals from there. And the big two are Boston and New York. Exactly. So most Jays fans like me, we hate the Yankees and we hate the red socks at least i do i can't stand those two but but that's par for the course everyone hates the yankees so like so that part i don't really you know bother with so far so much there isn't a football team here so i don't have to deal

with that right and um i don't mind i mean toronto f FC, like, they're exciting. They won last year. You're just a little late. We won the MLS Cup last year. What's it say? So, Jose Altidore is there, you know? So, like, I love him on the U.S. national team. He's my favorite. He's a sick dude. So, yeah, I'm going to follow Toronto FC.

The Maple Leafs, absolutely. Okay, so it sounds like you're a hockey fan because you were a Blackhawks fan. Yeah. This is the big team in Toronto. I mean, we love all of our teams, but nothing like the Leafs. Like, you're going to see that this city goes nuts for the Leafs. We're only like six games into the season.

It's already kind of bananas. I'm going to the Leafs game. When's Thursday? Tomorrow or the next day? Next day. Yeah, I'm going to the Leafs game on Thursday. It's Tuesday. You're going to love it.

You got Bell Media seats? I don't. I'm not sure if they're Bell Media seats, but I got some pretty dope seats. Because Bell Media is a part owner of that. Yeah, yeah, I know that. There's a whole MLS-y thing. To be honest with you,

I don't know exactly where the seats are, but I know they're pretty sick. You'll be fine. Yeah, they'll take care of you. Enjoy, man. That's a hot ticket because we signed John Tavares from Long Island. He was an English Islander.

And we already have Austin Matthews, who's an American, by the way. Yeah, yeah. He's fantastic. Heres from Long Island. He was an Islanders. And we already have Austin Matthews, who's an American, by the way. Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. He's from Phoenix area. And we have Marner. It's a really great time for those two teams, the Leafs and the Raptors.

So if you're a sports fan, this is a good time to come here, I think. And I got to give an honorable mention to one of my favorite sports, which is another not team sport, but I'm a massive scuba diver. I love to scuba dive. And I call it a sport.

And most people would call it just an activity, but it's also a sport. That's a great question because there's no competition. There's no competition, but there's a degree of skill and athleticism that you need to do to do that sport properly. I'm going to allow it. Yeah. And scuba diving is one of my favorite things to do.

So, yeah, those are my three favorite sports. Soccer, snowboarding, scuba, and an honorable mention to lacrosse. Okay, very good. You could definitely do the lacrosse and the snowboarding around here. I'm not sure where you're scuba-licking to. Yeah, that's going to be a little tough,

but it's still my thing. Okay, great. Now I'm going to play something from your past, which I'm fascinated with. My past? Yeah, like way back. We're going back. I don't even know.

You'll have to tell me after I play it whether you were Jane Nice or not yet. It might be around the time Jane Nice was born, okay? Really? So everybody, if you haven't heard this, you're in for a treat.

Let's listen. B-5-0-5. Come on, you guys. It's only a little. We're hungry, giant. Hungry for a big honey dash. Big taste. what they just listened to you just listened to something that should be not that that's i'm proud of that you listened to uh the honeycomb cereal commercial i think that was like 1985 maybe or maybe i'm not sure maybe i don't

know no it had to be a little later than that. I don't remember exactly what year it is. But it's definitely 80s. Like mid to late 80s. I think it's late 80s. Because of who's in there. Yeah. Andre the Giant was the feature, the hungry giant in there. Of course, the WWF wrestler.

And yeah, I was the honeycomb kid at that point on the honeycomb commercial. It's 1989. 89. Yeah, that was 89. Yeah, man. But bro, you've done your research. Yeah. So I was in the honeycomb it's 1989 89 yeah that was 89 yeah man but bro that that you've done your research yeah so i was in the honeycomb honeycomb commercials um i was a child actor at one point amazing because okay so i remember that ad because here's why in fact if you had come like last week uh

everything's been cleaned up for this painting you see everything's in disarray but i have an old from 1985 i have have an Andre the Giant mug that used to, it always sat there for like 380 episodes. Why are we like so connected, Mike? Like that's weird. Andre the Giant,

I mean, I was a big WWF fan in the mid to late 80s. Me too. And Andre was a big deal to me. Jimmy Superfly Snooker. Oh my God, yeah. Junkyard Dog.

Or Jimmy Mouth of the South. The Iron Sheik. Iron Sheik. Nikolai Volkov just passed away. Nikolai Volkov. Jake the Snake Roberts. Yeah, of course, with Damien. Junkyard Dog. Or Jimmy Mouth of the South. The Iron Sheik. Iron Sheik. Nikolai Volkov just passed away. Nikolai Volkov. Jake the Snake Roberts. Yeah, of course, with Damien. Damien the Snake, of course.

Yeah, DDT. Hacksaw Jim Duggan. Oh, yeah, yeah. My favorite guy, who is a Toronto guy, actually, is, well, he's passed away too. Rowdy Roddy Piper. Rowdy Roddy Piper. He was my guy.

The Piper's Pit, you remember this? Yeah, of course I remember the Piper's Pit. Are you kidding me? This is Hot Rod talking. Hot Rod. Stop the music. Stop the rock and roll. Captain Lou Albano. I'm a man of a thousand kidding me? This is Hot Rod talking. Hot Rod. Stop the music. Stop the rock and roll. Captain Lou Albano.

I'm a man of a thousand faces. You and I are going places. Because he was managing George the Animal Steel. George the Animal Steel. I've heard that name in years. Holy shit. Who is like the turnbuckle after. He'd chew the turnbuckle and eat the styrofoam stuff in the turnbuckle.

Dude, do you remember when it was a big deal? Jake the Snake would use the snake and wrap it around people at the end. would he would no he would give you a sleeper hold the sleeper hold yeah you'd fall asleep and then he'd put the snake on top of you he'd take out the snake out of the bag do you remember like uh brutus the barber beefcake he had that big match of rowdy ray piper where the loser had to get his head shaved yeah the stakes weren't very high when i look back at that oh remember the hammer brought no No, Greg the Hammer Valentine. Yeah. And Jim the Anvil Neidhart. Yes.

Jim the Anvil Neidhart passed away earlier this year. Yeah, man. And Greg and Owen Hart. Owen passed away when he... The Hart connection, right? Yeah. These are all from Calgary area, the Hart family. That's a big wrestling...

I did not know that connection. That's interesting. Yeah. So Owen Hart is... That's a lot here, but a lot to unpack here, as they say. Sure. But Brett the Hitman Hart,

who's the most famous of the bunch, him and Owen Hart are like, are their brothers, and they are sons of Stu Hart. And Stu Hart ran this like wrestling factory in Calgary, Alberta. And you'll know some of these names, like Jim the Anvil Neidhart.

I think he was a brother-in-law and one of the remember the British Bulldog the British Bulldog of course one of them for sure was married to one of the Hart daughters

like there was this whole factory going on there and people would go to like the Hart family wrestling factory so why is everyone all weirded out about me being from America

and Canada you guys need to shut the fuck up like Canada America's been doing business forever you guys need to chill everyone fuck up. Canada and America has been doing business forever. You guys need to chill. Everyone should chill.

That's crazy. I'm telling Toronto to all we are saying is give Jay a chance. Jay Nice a chance. And I'm going to talk to whoever's running the show at Bell Media. You should be Jay Nice on the air. I'm just kidding. I don't even know. Either one is fine to me.

So you're a child actor. Yeah, I was a child actor. Back in the 80s and 90s, really, in New York City, that was the thing to do. Probably here in Canada, kids were going to hockey camp or whatever, skating and stuff. In New York, everybody was trying to become a star. And I grew up in Queens, New York, around some kids who ended up being massive freaking stars. I used to... Can you drop some names?

I mean, I could drop some names. I used to see Tatiana Ali all the time. From the Fresh Prince. Yeah, she ended up being Ashley on the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. And she sings, too. She sings as well. She's fantastic. And she's beautiful.

Beautiful. I used to see the Smollett family. What's his face? Jussie Smollett, who plays Jamal in Empire. And, you know, his sister and his brothers, they all became actors. Journey Smollett and all of them. I used to see them at auditions and running around Manhattan.

I used to see them all the time. I remember when they left New York and moved to L.A. And their mom was like, hey, we're moving to L.A. That's where all the work is. Their mom and my mom had that conversation. So many other stars, like kids who became huge stars. I remember seeing Dion, what's his face? I forget his last name.

But he played Bud on the Cosby show. He was Rudy's little boyfriend or whatever. I remember. what's his face I forget his last name but he played Bud on the Cosby show he was I remember Bud yeah he was Rudy's little boyfriend or whatever I remember there were just so many

it was New York at the time was just like a hotbed for like a lot of kids who were you know either talented because they were actors or singers

or at the time when rap was coming up a lot of people were becoming little young rappers and became do you know anyone who became a popular rapper

that's my era so my favorite rap band of all time is Public Enemy Public Enemy coming up. A lot of people were becoming little young rappers and became... Do you know anyone who became a popular rapper? Jeez. Because that's my era. So my favorite rap band of all time is Public Enemy. Public Enemy? Yeah. I mean,

I saw... What's his face? Flava Flav? A couple times. I used to see Busta Rhymes around. I mean, he was older than me,

but I saw him around. No, I like Busta too because he did a scenario with Tribe Called Quest. Tribe Called Quest, of course. I mean,

I'm from Queens, so I don't know if you remember the Lost Boys. They used to sing that song, Renee, or Jeep's Like Scoopers, Beam Quest, of course. I mean, I'm from Queens, so I don't know if you remember the Lost Boys. They used to sing that song, Renee, or Jeeps Like Scoopers,

Beamers, and Bends. Anyway, they were a local New York rapper. I used to see a lot of, I saw Biggie once. I mean,

nothing really worth mentioning, but I kind of knew of him. I knew people who knew 50 Cent. It just like, it was the thing. And it's kind of weird if we're talking about hip hop right now

that like I kind of grew up at the time where hip hop for us was our local music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But we didn't know it was going to become like the freaking culture

of the planet. Had no idea. I think, so I just, I'm kind of interested in the history of hip hop and I, so I watch a lot of documentaries

and stuff. So it's definitely coming out of New York, right? But I think you're a bit young. Like, I feel like it was late 70s is when this thing was made. No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. Because like, you know, Jungle Brothers and, you know, even if you go back further than that.

Africa Bambaataa. Africa Bambaataa. I'm not going to lie to you and say that was my music. Like, I was not rocking out to like frickin', what's his face? Herc? Yeah, Kool Herc or something like that. Who's a Jamaican and who's credited for being the father of hip hop. But I'm not going to front and be like I was rocking out to Kool Herc.

Only because I did the math on your age and I realized that's really young. But I knew of these people and I knew that there were some dudes who were from around the way, as we say. They were from around the way and I just knew that hip hop was was like some new york shit that we just do and then it took over and then it just like it blew up man like blow up is like an understatement it's just really a testament to just like i don't even know what's a testament to it's just like just if you do something and you love it just keep keep at it and you never know where it can go toronto mike keep doing this well good i'm at episode 386. Don't stop. I won't stop.

Six years. So yeah, I'm still going, man. I would do it just to have these fascinating conversations with people like you. Is this fascinating? I don't know if it's that fascinating. Well, we'll let the people judge. To be honest, I don't care, man. I'm having a good time. I don't know. Are you having a good time? You got a beer. We're talking about Andre the Giant

and the Africa Bambada. This is great. It's good stuff. I don't know. Are you having a good time? Yeah, this beer is great. You got a beer. We're talking about Andre the Giant and the Africa Bambaataa. This is great. It's good stuff. Yeah. I need to tell you, you know, you came on the 16th, right, of the month.

Yeah. And then something's happening, but let me play, speaking of hip hop. Nice long intro too, you know. It gives you a chance to set things up. I forgot how long this bed was. It's fine. It's fine.

It's fine. Oh. Yeah. I want to get high, so high. I want to get high, so high. I want to get high, so high. I want to get high. So. Well,

let's. The blood. I'm on your desk. I want to miss this. You got the bad wetness. Catch a hoe and another hoe. Merry Christmas. Yes,

I smoke shit straight off the road. Clip. I wrote shit for Merry Christmas. Yes, I smoke shit. Straight off the roach clip, I roach it. For the blinded ones to approach it. Forward motion. Make a sway like the ocean. The herb is more than just a powerful potion. What's the commotion? Yo, I'm not joking around. People learning about what they smoke in my ovens on high.

When I roast the quail. Tell Bill Clinton to go and then hail. Exhale. Now you feel the funk of the time when I feel the effects. I want to get high. So high. You going to play some Cypress Hill tomorrow morning with Roger and Marilyn? Maybe I will play some Cypress Hill.

You know what's so dope about that, too? I mean, I got so many thoughts I want to like let out. First of all, I want to also say that because I know so little about Chum and when people think

things are so surprising, like, oh, you can play Cypress Hill? On my show back where I came from, I would have definitely played this track

just to just be funny and here it's like a big surprise. No, you're not playing Cypress Hill tomorrow. I can already tell you that. Maybe I will.

Maybe I will. Please do. Then I'll owe you, I'll get you more beer're not playing Cypress Hill tomorrow. I can already tell you that. Maybe I will. Maybe I will. Please do. Then I'll owe you. I'll get you more beer. Yeah, Cypress Hill. Definitely big up to Cypress Hill, man. I want to get high. And I want to give an honorable mention to where they sampled that melody from.

Please. Rita Marley. There's a song called One Draw. You might want to pick that up. Of course, the wife of Bob Marley. Of course. I want to get high. So high. One draw. the wife of Bob Marley. Of course. I want to get high, so high.

One draw. Yeah, man. All right. No, no. Ah. All right. Now we reach the place. Yeah.

Malay, this place where we just reach. Yeah, man. Yes. So this is all setting the scene for the big celebration tomorrow, huh, Mike? So I believe it's legal at midnight. It is legal at midnight. So we're only hours away. Yeah. So what are you going to do to celebrate Toronto, Mike? So I believe it's legal at midnight. It is legal at midnight. So we're only hours away. Yeah, so what are you

going to do to celebrate Toronto, Mike? It's funny. It's the same day as the anniversary of Gord Downie's death. And you're going to tell me now, who's Gord Downie, right?

Yeah. Well, that's him right there in the picture, right there. Gord Downie was the lead singer of the Tragically Hip. Tragically Hip. And if you're ever coming across the border and you say you're Canadian and you're not,

and they might say something like, who's Gord Downie? If you don't know, they know you're not Canadian. Wow. But I remember hearing about that when I got here. Tragically, I've heard of them. So I have a whole Gord Downie, an episode tomorrow I'm recording that's sort of in memory of Gord. Okay. So that's where my focus is tomorrow.

episode tomorrow I'm recording that's sort of in memory of Gord. Okay. So that's where my focus is tomorrow. But I have been told by Mark Weisblatt who is like, listens to everything you do and is in love with your show. Really? That you're, in his opinion, I want to get this right, I even have a quote here, but in his opinion

he cannot remember a mainstream radio guy as open about smoking weed as you are. I don't really know if that's true. Because I think most people are pretty. I mean, weed is like fucking. Yo, weed is like more benign than liquor. It's just like the whole thing is just so funny to me.

Like, I feel like I'm living in Bizarro Land. Because it's a plant. It's literally a plant that grows. It's a herb, yeah. You grow it. You snip it. You crush it up. You smoke it.

You know what you got to do to get this beer in this can, man? This is some real noxious shit, man. It's essentially bacterial piss. It's bacteria piss, and we drink it. That's some noxious stuff. That's a proud sponsor, but yes, please continue. When you talk about anaerobic respiration and how you derive

alcohol from bacteria, it's the byproduct, the piss of bacteria. So where does the stigma come from? The fact it's illegal, right? That's the only difference. I think it's a cultural thing. I think it's like because alcohol is so ingrained into the culture of like western society because like it's easier maybe to get out i don't know i'm just guessing no i think it's just

legal no no no because at one point alcohol wasn't legal bro you know i'm saying alcohol was they were in their 20s or something yeah but that let's talk about that like at one point alcohol was like scorned and people were running around with prohibition and like hiding alcohol in their cellars or whatever. And it was like, if you have alcohol, you're going to jail, you know? So it's like,

I think that the accessibility to make alcohol because you don't need any temperature constraints, it became a thing, part of the culture. Whereas marijuana, you can't just grow marijuana

in New York, you know what I'm saying? Without like some hydroponic assistance. Yeah, you can't just grow marijuana in like an alley in Chicago. Or, you know, so'm saying without like some hydroponic yeah you can't just grow marijuana in like an alley in chicago or into you know so i think because marijuana was in places warm climates where you know the powers that be don't have control over it became like uh yo f that stuff like you know it's illegal and there's not much you can do about it until technology

and culture caught up with it that's what i really think i think i think there's some cultural aspect to it where marijuana just got the the and maybe there's some i really i'm not claiming to be a scholar i heard that you know when guys were trying to uh uh push the agenda the agenda i think it was uh maybe cotton or wood and when hemp came along they're like oh hemp's gonna run us out the business so they said nah it's nate at like keep the hemp out the business you know it's probably a combination of all that stuff but really and truly marijuana i mean i'm not saying i'd give my kid marijuana but it's like it's it's no it's it's like alcohol is far worse in every way than marijuana so i don't see the big deal about just making jokes about i mean mean, we joke about getting wasted, having wine night with the girls and all this stuff.

And I have no problem making marijuana jokes because no one's died from it. And you're there to educate people like... No, I'm not there to educate anyone. But it's strange because, I mean, what I'm now getting an education because I'll admit I don't partake, not because it's illegal, not because I've always been adamant that... I always said don't just decriminalize like legalize it sure sure i think the same as you like uh and i have a brother who partakes uh you know lots of people i know and love enjoy joy responsibly but here's the deal i'm all for it but mike here's the deal i'm here sipping a beer with you and i can't tell

you the last time but since i had this before i had this beer with you, I can't remember the last time I had a beer. Like, I just don't drink beer. But this is like a very, very widely accepted thing. Do I have marijuana in my house? Yeah. Do I smoke it every night? Absolutely not. It's probably been sitting there for like months.

It's just chilling like on my counter like my beer would be. I just think there's like something about marijuana. Once you say marijuana, all of a sudden you become the person who's like something about marijuana once you say marijuana all of a sudden you become the person who's like smoking like every minute you can oh they think of stoners right like people who phone in i'm not going to work today because i'm just going to sit here and get high it's absolutely funny to me mike like why people go there with it was like oh marijuana oh

dude you can't function without some marijuana no that bag has been sitting in my freaking fridge or in my counter like for about three weeks a month now. And it's sitting there. I probably forgot it's there. Okay, so let me... Because I'm with you. I'm with you. But if it's...

Let's say it's Friday night. You don't work again until Monday. And you're not going driving anywhere on Friday night. You'll enjoy some... You'll smoke some weed. Maybe or maybe not. I'm not even skirting the answer.

Maybe or maybe not. If it's there and like a beer, I go, oh, I want a sip of that beer. Or it's like a piece of chocolate. I want some chocolate. That's the type of guy I am. I don't have an addictive personality whatsoever. I just don't have...

That's not how I'm wired. Right. If it's there, and if it so moves me to have some, sure. But if not, not. So does anything change for you personally? I'll tell you what changes for me. The fact that I could walk into a dispensary

and just buy it. Well, except you can't, right? Wait, except you can. For six months. Well, except you can. But here's the thing. I know legally you can, but you can't. Right. Well, here's the thing. And I don't know. We you can. For six months. Well, except you can. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. I know legally you can, but you can't. Right.

Well, here's the thing. And I don't know. We'll see. Because we're going to find out tomorrow. But this is a provincial thing, right? Right. So the federal law says it's now legal, but the provinces decide how it's dispensed and all that stuff.

Right. So the new provincial government, the PC party, Doug Ford, has decided that effective at midnight you could buy it online. Right. Like today at midnight you can buy it online. Which is pretty interesting. Very interesting.

Yeah. But all those, we have dozens and dozens of dispensaries right now. I went to one the other day. Yeah, they're all over the place. I just want to say, I've never,

and that's another thing. When you hear that a guy like Jamar smokes weed, you're like, oh, he must go into dispensaries all the time. I went into my first freaking dispensary

the other day and it blew my mind. I was like... But here's the thing. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I was in Chinatown and I saw it and I was like, wow. A dispensary. I was like, let me just go and see what it's like. And I went in and just bought some. But, but, but, but this is key.

Right. The government has been very clear on this that after today... Right. For six months, right. You can't sell it, uh, at a storefront like that.

So they're only going to have, they're called LPs, but licensed providers. Okay. Right. If you want to be a licensed provider, which means you want to have the license to actually sell weed legally. Yeah.

You must shut down your gray area illegal dispensary. You must shut it down now. Tomorrow, for example, the cops will start to come down on these dispensaries that we are used to now. Which they're not going to do. I don't know because I always think, and this is my thought, is if

marijuana is a cash cow, which is the big thing, right? Billions of dollars they predict it's going to generate. The biggest competition is going to come from all these convenient dispensaries we've been using. I honestly think I'm not an expert. I'm just some dude making guesses. Please, everyone who's listening, I'm not an expert, but in my estimation as a layman, I feel like there are so many bigger things going on in the province or in the city that they're not going to go around freaking shutting down dispensaries.

Here's a thought. If you were a dispensary, would you risk going on a list of places that don't get licensed because you stayed open past the 17th of October? Or would you shut it down knowing that you can reopen in six months with a piece of paper that puts you, well, you don't have to worry about it anymore. You're legal. You know what?

I really don't know enough about to say that, but I will tell you this much. I wouldn't open a dispensary. It's just not my jam. So it's like, I'm not even in that conversation personally. And I don't want to skirt your question. I'm just saying like,

I don't have enough information about like, because you know there's all types of backdoor dealings and shit like the dispensary people gotta they gotta pay somebody off to be like yo i'm gonna stay open i'm gonna get this i'm gonna i'm gonna get this paperwork but just like just ease off me a little bit those things happen you know i'm saying so that dispensary that's open and it's like everyone's going oh how are they open but like they're not locked down and there's all these things going on so don't get it twisted dispensaries are not closing all their

all their doors tomorrow so you're stupid if you think that's what's happening i am stupid then because i thought that's what was happening absolutely not mike bro come on man because then then i have this thought okay because uh apparently the the government price uh online is higher than the price that torontonians are used to yeah but here's the deal you got the one dispensary yeah that hasary that gives no fucks. They're like, I'm just going to stay open and just ride this out and see how it works. Then you have the other dispensary that's like,

I know a guy, and they're going to just say, I got to connect. And then you have the other dispensary that's just trying to figure it out. So I think it's somewhere around there. So I think it's safe to say this is all more symbolic than anything because everyone who was smoking weed last week will be smoking weed next week. And I mean, it's safe to say this is all more symbolic than anything because everyone who was smoking weed

last week will be smoking weed next week and I mean, it's already been sort of legal and the cops aren't coming down

on anyone for having a personal use quantity. This is where I have to tell you about yourselves as Canadians and Torontonians. All right, ready?

Yo, there's so much freaking weed in this city. My dude. Yo, I've been here for three months and every time I walk on the street downtown Toronto, I smell dude. Yo, I've been here for three months, and every time I walk on the street, downtown Toronto, I smell weed. Oh, I know. Since I've been here.

So, like, I don't want anyone looking at me crazy because I'm not afraid to say that, yeah, weed is not a bad thing to me. Everyone in this city is smoking weed, man. And I come from New York, and you do not smell nearly as much weed in New York as you do in Toronto. Facts. I mentioned that I bike all over the place in the city. I smell, you're right, I smell, especially biking through parks and stuff, I smell weed all the time.

And it's everybody. It's middle-aged chicks, old dudes. It's lawyers. It's everybody. This is a weed. Yo, you guys put the can in cannabis, Canada. Know that. So let's just be very clear.

You guys are teaching me about weed. I'm not teaching anybody in this place about weed. But you are probably teaching Roger Ashby about weed. Roger Ashby lived in the 70s. Kiss my ass. Roger Ashby, he might not say it, but that dude smoked weed. And you are are just so you have a little history here but back in the day when chum fm used to play like album oriented rock

before they became pop right they had guys like i mentioned john john donabee but donabee and david marsden was another popular chum fm dj back in the day and they were like notorious they were all about smoking weed so really uh who was it back then right right so they were you're right so you're not the first chum of that personality to be open about smoking weed because that was the way but i think i've been that open on the air about smoking weed again uh i have a source on this that says you will uh talk about the different strains and like oh this is a good stream i've never on chum said yo smoke weed. I can't wait till this shit's legal. I've made jokes, and I've also alluded to my comfort with the plant. But I've never.

I think that's a very interesting deduction. Well, the cat's out of the bag now. Well, whatever. Guess what? The bigger cat's out of the bigger bag tomorrow, bruh. It's your country. Oh, man. No, in all seriousness, so Chum FM, now that it's legal, Chum FM, you guys can just

talk about it more openly now, right? You feel like you're licensed? You know, I mean, listen, we're not on the air talking about getting wasted on grain alcohol every day. So, you know, it's, for all intents and purposes, a substance. You know, we have young listeners we have families and you know everyone has their own standards of living and you know chum is a for for all intents and purposes a family station um it's a brand i respect the

people that listen to it i respect the people that brought me there and i respect the people in the room was living in a single room with three other individuals one of them was a man here's a classic. We play this at 420 every day. It's almost 420. Is it almost 420? Yeah. Oh, my God.

Reefers. Reefers. So, to finish the thought uh you tomorrow is a big day in cannabis culture but don't expect that i'm gonna be getting on the air talking about like yo bro rolled a fatty last night son it was crazy like at the end of the day it's it is what it is and you know you got to respect people's choices in their in their lifestyles and you know just kind of carry the cool man just cool out with it and you're okay if i don't partake like it's not that i'm against it it's just i don't like to ingest dude you know how many people don't drink alcohol and don't get any shit for it like really it's like it's it's that simple to me

either you in or you out and if you out it's all good maybe edibles like i was thinking maybe uh and i don't even know careful with the ed with the edibles, man. Them joints are potent. Edibles are a whole new ballgame. Will you be with me like my guide as I do this? I don't even know. I mean, yes, I would be with you as a guide,

but let me tell you something. Edibles are an experience and I would tell you like, you got to mentally prepare for that ride. Like edibles are, it's a ride, man. Edibles are a ride.

Make sure someone's looking after the kids. You know, edibles are not necessarily my, I mean, I've done a couple edibles, but they're not necessarily my jam like that. Edibles are like if I'm out at a festival and I don't have shit to do, everything is spoken for. My meals are taken care of. I don't need to drive anywhere. Bro, you got me?

All right. Give me that. That's edibles, but not just on the chill, no. I'm almost sorry to move on because I've enjoyed this weed talk with you. And it's so timely. It's very timely, Mike. This is happening at midnight, man. And we're only the second country in the world to legalize heroin.

Canada is such a special place. I want to talk about this a little bit. I don't know what you got planned. I'll bring down some water. I don't know what you guys have planned, i do want to say this to to your listeners that like as a somewhat of an outsider this is a very special country very special country with very special people i mean it's not perfect but i mean there's some things that i think this place has nailed i think that the way um the government treats drug uh people with drug problems and drug use.

Like, it's just so funny. I'll see a poster, and in America, the poster would be, say no to drugs. If you have a problem, get off drugs. But the Canadian poster would be like, if you are a user of controlled substance and you need help, give us a call.

And it's like, it's just so much more of an accepting way of approaching things. And I'm just like, damn, man. Like, I just really wish America, I mean, American culture is, you know, cowboy culture and brashness and aggression on some levels. And, you know, for whatever it's worth, those things are great in doses or, you know, in their place. But I also wish, I really appreciate the Canadian approach to just care and hospitality and niceness. Well, we definitely view addiction as a disease. Yeah.

And that's the significant difference. And that's why you'll find, in Toronto at least, you'll find safe injection sites. Yeah. Because someone who's addicted to heroin, for example. Literally can't come off of it.

And we basically provide a space where you can make sure you're always using a sterile needle, like a new needle, because sharing the needles is what causes the spread of many diseases, such as HIV, etc. And also, as you know, there's this fentanyl crisis going on.

And if you have somebody on hand with... And I forget the name of the shot that saves the lives, but I forget the name of it. And that's crazy because everyone would look at the weed guy, me, Jamar, and be like, you must know all these. I don't know shit about any of that stuff. I don't know. I've only seen cocaine like me once in my life.

I don't know any of these pills these kids are taking. I don't know none of that shit. Well, as you know, there's a lot of weed in the city because we view weed as a very soft drug. We're not going to put weed in the same category as heroin or cocaine or whatever. These are different animals. I just feel like a lot of people make that argument with like, oh, these weed drug heads. It's like, yo, you're talking to a dude who knows, I don't know anything about these pills. But I will give credit to this country is that we've known for a while now that we were going to legalize marijuana.

And I've heard almost no. The only thing I hear sometimes is this fear about keeping it out of the hands of kids. What age should you be allowed to buy pot? I hear a bit of that, but I hear no, and maybe I'm not listening to the right places, but I hear no outcry about the fact it's happening. I think most

Canadians are progressive enough to understand that the use of recreational marijuana should not result in a criminal record. Yeah. I completely agree. It's just absurd. And I completely also

agree that we need to protect our children from any substance. Do you have kids? No, I don't have any kids. But anything that you're putting into your body, you know, you gotta have an adult kind of supervising that and be like hey this is what you put in your body this is what you don't put in your body until you're

18 and we can have a different conversation yeah to me because I have four kids and two of them are in that like smoking pot age two of them are teenagers and it's all around you know the high schools and stuff so we talk about this a lot as far as I'm concerned it's science like the doctors will tell you the teenage brain

it's the way that the brain will tell you the teenage brain, it's the way that the brain is changing and growing. Yeah. There are actual very serious long-term effects to smoking at least a certain amount of marijuana.

Wow. That like you, for example, totally different, right? Yeah. So like there is a very strong argument to be made

if you can wait until you're, this is going to sound silly, like I don't want to sound like an old man or whatever, but if you can wait till you're it's gonna sound silly like i don't want to sound like a old man or whatever but if you can wait till you're 21 before you start uh using recreational marijuana uh you'll be doing yourself a service long term like with your brain and that's a whole different conversation which is honestly mike is how people need to talk about and i'll tell you i didn't smoke any of this stuff when i was young a kid i just didn't like

andre the giant didn't try to give you any. By the way, was he a nice guy? Did you have any interaction with him? Yeah, he was a cool dude. He was a giant. I love that guy. He was a cool dude. His hand was the size

of this freaking mic stand. He was awesome. Fortunately, he passed away, but yeah. Of course, because he had gigantism. Yeah, gigantism.

The heart was like... The heart was overworking, man. Big, man. But there's always... You see the photo of Andre the Giant with a can of beer in his hand or whatever

and it looks like a... It looks like a small thing. And the Princess Bride was amazing. He was so good at it. Yeah, that was a classic. I remember this. You remember the rock and roll wrestling? Do you remember Saturday morning cartoon?

Of course I remember. But there was live action interstitials between the cartoons, okay? So I remember we'd see like a cartoon, and there'd be like Hulk Hogan and whatever, all these guys. And Bobby the Brain Heenan, remember this guy? And then there'd be like a live action interstitial before another cartoon.

But I remember distinctly, Andre the Giant was going to buy a car, okay? So he goes to the used car lot to buy a car. And they tell him to try this. It's like a subcompact, like a little European subcompact car. I remember this little thing, yeah. And it had a sunroof. Yeah. This is what a subcompact, like a little European subcompact car. I remember this little thing. It had a sunroof.

This is what I remember. No, I remember he would sit in the car, like in the front seat, he needed both of them to sit in it. And the sunroof was around his waist. So his upper body and his arms and his head are outside of the car. I vaguely remember this.

Do you remember him saying this? Okay, this is what I remember. And it's been with me for now for like, I don't know, 30 something years or something. He goes, it's too small. It's too small. Like, it's just too small.

It rings a bell, Mike, but I remember the visual for sure. I remember that. I mean, they had a bunch of those with Captain Lua also, Albano. He'd be in the middle of those things as well.

Remember? Totally. With the rubber bands in his beard and stuff? Yes, of course. And he was big with the Cindy Lauper. Remember Cindy Lauper? Yes. He was in a lot of Cindy Lauper videos. Well, he's in Girls Just Want to Have Fun. Remember the Goonies video? Goonies are good enough for me.

Was he in the Goonies video? I think Classy Freddy Vlassie? Was it Classy Freddy Glassie? Classy Freddy Glassie. I can't remember if it was Vlassie. I think it was Vlassie. So Classy Freddy Vlassie. He was in those videos. Yeah, Captain Lou. I think I'm trying to think of who else. Which other wrestlers

were in there? I think Jimmy Hart was in there, Mouth of the South. But I know we're going. There was definitely a connection between WWF Wrestling and Cindy Lauper. And Cyndi Lauper, yeah. And Captain Lou. And I remember the rumors in my primary grade school.

I don't know, what do you call it in America? Grade school? Elementary. Elementary, okay. So in my elementary school year, we thought that Captain Lou was, the rumor was that Captain Lou was Cyndi Lauper's father. That would have made sense. I mean, they were seen enough times on television to make that inference. But man, yeah,

those were the days. And you went to the University of Maryland, right? Yes. Because Nikolai Volkov lived in Baltimore. Wow, Nikolai Volkov. He just died. The same episode where Mark Weisblot sings your praises, we do a little segment called Death... We don't have a good name for it, but

Death Watch or something. And we played... Do you remember the wrestling album don't have a good name for it but death watch or something and we played do you remember the wrestling album was it a record it was a record yeah but you could buy on cassette too

no I remember the record though yep it was a record and do you remember at all there's a lot of songs that I could sing them all remember junkyard dog

had grab them cakes another one bites the dust no I don't remember that one remember and another one bites the dust

oh yeah that was his theme song. Right, yes. But his song was Grab Them Cakes? You're right. The theme song that he came out to the ring with was Another One Bites the Dust. Another One Bites the Dust. But his song on the album was Grab Them Cakes, yeah.

What was Hulk Hogan's song on that one? I am a real American. Dude. Fight for the rights of every man. This is crazy. I am a real American. Mike, I for the rights of every man. This is crazy. I'm a real American. Mike, I'm getting chills right now. I haven't heard this in...

Fight for what's right. I haven't heard that in many years. And wasn't it... Was it Derringer? Rick, do you remember Derringer? Derringer, Derringer. Oh, hold on here. It's just...

Yo, do the people listening to this podcast know what you're talking about right now? Actually, I'm a huge fan of Inside Baseball. And when people have to work to get it, that's what gets me off. That's awesome. That's cool. I'm all about that. That's the nice thing about working your podcast, being your own boss. I'm just amazed that you remember this stuff.

I am a real American. Wow. I fight for the rights of every man. You're a real American, so this is so appropriate. That's crazy. And at this point, when Hulk's entering the ring, he'd be slapping his arms really hard and making them red. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, Hulk was epic, man. I'm telling you, brother. There's only one Hulk. Eat your vitamins. Say your prayers.

I liked Macho Man. Macho Man, Randy Savage? Oh, yeah. I haven't... You know what? I almost want to play this just before we sign out. I hope you don't have to go anywhere,

but do you mind if I bring down Derringer's Real American? Go right ahead, man. This? I almost want to play this just before we sign out. I hope you don't have to go anywhere, but do you mind if I bring down Derringer's Real American? Go right ahead. Okay, this is what I want to do. There's a... Let me just see if I have it. Give me a moment here. You can vamp, as they say.

Don't vape, just vamp. That means you can tell us a story about your life, anything you want. Tell us about what music you listen to at home. What would I even tell you? I listen to a lot of Caribbean music, man. I mean, my favorite genres are Caribbean, like dancehall. I love soca.

I love reggae. And I love pop music. Just good old pop, like bubblegum pop music. I love that shit. I love Justin Timberlake, Maroon 5. Is that right? I'm surprised to hear that. Why? It's really weak-ass

poppy stuff. You know what it is? I defend pop music, even though people think it's weak. And listen, you don't have to test my hip-hop card at all because I come from there. We don't have to talk about that. But I do defend music because like any music that can like freaking go viral around the planet like so like this like this is the kind of stuff you'll play on uh chumps fucking

great song yeah i agree i agree it's a great song there's some good pop songs no there's a lot of good pop songs that's just some but no but by definition you've met this you've met her oh yeah many times that's why i played it because i saw the picture by definition, Mike. You've met her, right? Oh, yeah, many times. That's why I played it, because I saw the picture. By definition, Mike, pop music is popular music. Right, right, right. So it's all great. You might not like it, but all of it is very, very popular, and everyone loves it. You know what's funny to me?

When people are like, what is Jamar doing on Chum? If you guys look at my resume, I've only worked pop radio my entire career. I've never been on an urban station. I've never been on an urban station. I've never been on a country station. You don't get tired of Bruno Mars. I mean, not really. I mean, it's a good song. You know, I get tired of some songs, but I mean, I'm a pop radio DJ.

I'm a pop radio personality. I've only worked pop. It seems to be that, I mean, as you know, in this market alone, there's a bunch of stations just playing pop music. But okay, so perfect vamping there. So Macho Man Randy Savage put out a rap album. Yeah, yeah. He had a diss track where he went...

That was on cassette. I remember that shit. I never owned this one. I just picked it up on MP3. I remember the cassette. Okay, so... But he had a diss track against Hulk Hogan. My oldest is 16.

And when he was like five or six, we used to play this song and rap along to it. That was our thing. And I'm going to play it for you now, because who else would be interested in the Hulk Hogan diss by Macho Man Randy Savage, Be a Man Hulk. You ready for this? Yeah, let's play it. Let's hear it.

Hulk Hogan, Hollywood officer, whatever they call you. Huh. Bob Corgan, Hollywood officer. Whatever they call you. I'm coming after you, you coward. I dig it now. Hope you played. You set it off. Set it off. Used to be a hard hog.

Now you done turned soft. Doing telephone commercials. I seen ya. Dancing in tight as a ballerina. I knew all along you had those tendencies. Cause you've been running from macho like I got a disease Dude, please, your pay-per-view event was a joke You're avoiding Randy Savage cause you know you can smoke

Come on, that pony fight, the Rocks made you fast But when they challenged Hogan to a real fight, he passed I called him out, but the punk was scared to go It was a charity event, but the hall didn't show Hollywood hooked up, you're at the end of your rope And I'ma kick you in the button wash your mouth i was sure cause like right in the danger field you get some respect so come on hog let's rack so i can put you a chat be a man hog come on don't be scared you're running

from macho that's what i heard be a man hog come on don't be a chump i never thought hog would go wild like a hog be a man hog hope Come on, don't be scared You're running from the macho, that's what I heard Be a man, hope Boy, you's a chump Cause all broken is a real big puff They call you Hollywood Don't make me laugh

So what do you think? It's crazy. I heard him say, don't be scared. Like, I didn't even realize that was still a thing back then. This is harder than, like, the Kanye and Drake beat. Like, real talk, this band sounds serious. I really forgot

about all this stuff. This is remarkable that you even remember and reference it. Like, pretty, pretty, pretty. I'm impressed,

bro. It's very dope. And I remember this cassette, man. Wild. That was a long freaking time ago.

All right. I'm glad I got to share it with you because like uh who am i gonna share that with you know what i mean i can't just play that for like mo berg from pursuit of happiness i appreciate that i come from that i remember that i gotta ask you about something that's been going around the internet uh there are these fake ads so you see them on like any website that runs adsense right that's what's happening to maryland right now you're right that's what i'm talking about okay okay that's what i'm talking about they're fake maryland dennis uh like retirement stories and i know that uh other bell media personalities have had their images used in fake stories spread and it's all like clickbait yeah Yeah. And I saw a press release

or some statement from Bell Media that they were like working on finding out the source of this, tracking it down to shut this down. They have investigators on the case or something. That's awful. Like there's nothing Marilyn can do. They just put her picture up

and tell a lie and people click through. I really don't know what more to say about it, but then it's like kind of the sign of the times. Like people, I mean, like look, I mean, everyone has access to the internet now, you know? And the internet is accessible by everybody. And I didn't just repeat myself. Like, those two things are very meaningful. Everyone has access to the internet, and everybody can access the internet conversely. So that means if you have a maligned message

that you want to get out there, you can put it out there to an infinite amount of people and then an infinite amount of people can actually just stumble upon it. It's really kind of effed up. I'm sorry. For me, I consider myself a low guy on many totem poles and I'm like, Jesus, I wish I had some viral shit going on.

But you're only three months in but give us some time no but it gives marilyn a a lot of what's the word um she it distresses her because she loves her fans like i've watched marilyn agonize over this stuff because she loves her fans and she doesn't like the fact that i mean listen if you're gonna run some bogus ads whatever but people's money is getting stolen off of it because they're selling these like makeup kits or some bullshit like that and there's i think the stem of what's frustrating her is that she can't do anything to she can't do anything to stop find the source to my point before that everyone can access it and then you can access an infinite amount of people um if you're putting the messages out there so it does distress marilyn a little bit that she can't protect people from wasting their

money on this garbage. But at the same time, what can she do? By the way, I see now I have a note. I don't know why I didn't. You're right. She was born in Edmonton, but Marilyn Dennis grew up in Pittsburgh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We talk about it all the time.

Right, of course. Here and now, yeah. Again, Marilyn knows her life better than I do. Some points for Marilyn there by the way quick list of some chum jocks who were American

okay there's been a lot of them John Major was American Tom Rivers he was a long time staple I love that guy Jay Nelson

Terry Steele Scott Carpenter Dick Smythe I don't know if he was American actually but all the rest were definitely American. So there's a lot of Americans. And we played some Ariana Grande,

because I saw that on your website, you have a lot of pics of you and big stars, including... Cardi B, right? You've met cardi b cardi b cardi b it's crazy like i'm on the like ground floor of a lot of stars like a lot of stars when they're coming up they'll come to our radio stations and you know promote themselves right like i met aria grande when she was really not much of any i met bruno mark bruno

mars and his band came into my studio in the morning show and they set up their whole band in my morning show studio and played a song for us today they would never do some shit like that

right right right they don't need you anymore they don't need you anymore but like you know that's the cool thing about pop you know a lot of people when they're trying to come up

they need to go through pop because they want to get to a big audience and we reach some of the biggest audiences in the industry sure so yeah Cardi B yeah met Cardi B many times Bruno Mars a bunch of times They want to get to a big audience. And we reach some of the biggest audiences in the industry. Sure.

So, yeah. Cardi B, yeah. Met Cardi B many times. Bruno Mars a bunch of times. Ariana Grande, yeah. Quincy Jones. I met Quincy Jones. That was dope.

And I did not meet him on the ground floor. I met him way up. Yeah, I was going to say. I met him at TIFF when we were doing the premiere for his documentary, Quincy, which is on Netflix right now. Oh, cool, cool, cool. And now you're in this, we're going to wrap up very soon here, but you're in this period of time where like you have three months

on a big time station on the morning show, which is the coveted spot, but you're probably not recognized yet in the city, right? Like you can walk the city anonymously. No, I'll tell you something, Mike. It's a new day, man. I think with social media, I fly out a bunch because i still dj in the states and in the caribbean a bunch and you know do other things you know my family's all around the place so like i fly out a lot

and i think the last three times i've gone to pearson um the security people would be like jamar and i'll be like yeah really it's it's's weird to me, man, because I'm just like, damn, man. I just got here. But I guess, you know, the day I got here, you could literally go on Instagram or on, what do you call it? Twitter? Twitter or even just chum and see who I am.

And if you remember what I look like, then there it is. Oh, that's amazing because I was thinking you were still anonymous walking the streets. Yeah, I mean more or less, yes. i i've been spotted a bunch of times are you ready uh now that you've made your toronto mic debut here uh by the way at a future date uh if you would be interested in coming back i do a thing called kick out the jams right so guests come a second time okay and we play the guests so you tell me ahead of time your 10 favorite songs of all time okay and we play the guest so you tell me ahead of time your 10 favorite songs of all time okay we play the jam and then you tell us why you love that song and what it means to you

toronto mike i want to do that tomorrow right after my gordowny tribute i don't know if i talked about this enough i didn't talk about it at all on the show but like i'm a music guy like i love music and i just i just so happened to so happened to be able to do a radio show as well because, you know, I learned and, you know, I think I have somewhat of a personality. But at heart, I'm a music person. I love music so much. That's why I have no shame in saying that I love pop music,

but I also love my hip-hop and my reggae and my dancehall, and I love classical. I love jam bands. I freaking... Like Phish? What? I went through a Phish phase, bands. I freaking... Like Phish? What? I went through a Phish phase, man. I went through a Phish

and Dave Matthews phase where that's all I wanted to listen to. Billy Joel is one of my heroes. I love Stevie Wonder. I just love music. I love music. Well, I would love to be sitting down here with you.

Yeah. And we won't put on that light this time. Keep it nice and dark. We got the headphones on. We listen to your song. So we start the song. We listen to it. It sounds great.

After the first chorus or whatever, I fade it down a bit and then I'll be like, we just hear your voice and you just share with us. I love that song. Toronto, when can we pencil that feature in?

I want to do that. Well, knowing you're the rep, I got to wait a few months No, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, That's going to happen quicker than you know. I would love it. I would want to do that. Knowing you're the rep, I've got to wait a few months to remember that you want to do this. That's going to happen quicker than you know. I would love it, man. I would love to do that because

I just... Music is something... Some people get it and some people don't, man, but music is some powerful shit, man. It's just so awesome. You know, there's... So, Kick Out the Jam. So, this is episode 386 of Toronto Mic. Okay. About 50 and change of those episodes are

Kick Out the Jams episodes where, yeah, you should, I mean, these personalities are known to you because you're new to the market or whatever, but hearing like a long time

Toronto radio person come in and these are the 10 songs they love most and that we're hearing why, it's the best experience, man. Dude, that's going to be tough for me to do. It's always tough.

To give you 10 songs that mean the most to me, I'm going to leave that thing and go, damn it! Yeah, well, it's going to change throughout the day too. That's the to be tough for me to do, to give you 10 songs that mean the most to me. I'm going to leave that thing and go, damn it! Yeah, well, it's going to change with the day, too. That's the other thing, too. Your favorite songs at 9 a.m. might be different from your favorite songs at 10 p.m. So at some point, you just have to cut it and say, this is my 10. And then even if it's the 10, maybe it's the 10 that you love with the best stories.

Whatever. It's up to you. You send me the list. We play and chat. We are going to do that for sure. Before you leave this first time, though, just before you become Toronto famous, is there

anything else you want Toronto to know about you before we say goodbye? I don't want to get too heavy or too deep. I mean, I guess there's a bunch of things I could say. I mean, just give me a chance. Or if you don't, you don't have to give me a chance. I mean, honestly, do whatever you want. But, you know'm here and i'm i'm excited to be working with uh the team at chum i'm excited to be working with roger and marilyn and caitlin and everybody

in the building it's just um you know i try to play it off a little bit because i don't want to get the you know stage fright but i am i am honored i am honored i i understand the uh the shoes that i'm that was on the i understand the position I've stepped into, and I approach it with some humble and some candor because I like it, and I'm glad to be able to do it. And I hope I'm able to entertain you guys for a long time, or as long as you tune into us. On behalf of this city, welcome.

We're glad to have you, Jamar. I hope so. I'm glad to be here. This is a very special town. Thank you for having me. And that brings us to the end of our 386th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Jamar is at J Nice. But make sure you use two I's when you follow Jamar.

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Okay, follow both. Yeah, follow both. The other one is IamJNice. And the other one is at 6IXJamar. You're right. I said J-Nice. It's IamJNice. Yes.

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