Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jay Brody and Roddy Colmer: Toronto Mike'd #344

Episode Date: June 6, 2018

Mike chats with Jay Brody and Roddy Colmer about their Sirius XM show The Dumb Show, why they left The Todd Shapiro Show, Roddy's work with Rebel Emergency and his recent solo effort and Jay's work at Y108.

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Download the app today from paytm.ca and Camp Ternasol, the leading French summer camp provider in Ontario. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me are Jay Brody and Roddy

Colmer. Or is it Roddy Colmer and Jay Brody? Who gets billed first? Jay usually puts himself first. Yeah, I try to get myself first billing. Because you write the scripts. Yeah. I'm usually the lead on our show. You know, lead announcer, I guess.

The alpha male. Is that okay? Yeah, the alpha male. And I try to crop Roddy out of most of our show photos as well. Just crop him right out. First of all, that's a mistake. Roddy is a very handsome man. He is the more attractive man.

So I like to put him in the back almost translucent. I didn't say more attractive. Okay, Jay, I said he's an attractive man. You're also an attractive man. My girlfriend thinks he's more attractive. Jay's very cute. Jay's cuter than me, I think. You're a button.

You're a button on a fresh shirt. You guys want me to leave you guys alone? I don't mind. I can disappear for like 10 minutes. No, we're good. I got to say, this is funny because growing up, my favorite number was 344. And now it seems like it was meant to be. That's my favorite number.

Really? That's crazy. It's a great number. 344. All right. I want to say to you, Jay, you smell great. Thank you. So you're sitting beside me.

For those who can't see us, Roddy is in the position where I'm going to make more eye contact with Roddy. Nice eyes, by the way. Jay, I won't make as much eye contact with you, but my nose is in contact with you. Thank you. Tell us, what are you wearing? I put on some fresh Nautica N83 before I got into the studio here. I just finished doing some morning radio at Y108. And when you do morning radio, it's literally,

you just sit in a chair that everyone's farted into for 35 years. So you really got to freshen up. You buy new chairs. It's not in the budget. New chairs are not in the budget. I know. That's like, I had these chairs that you two are in were generously donated to the podcast

by Blue Sky Agency and Liberty Village, who they outfit like offices with like furniture. And they gave the show these chairs because somebody on Twitter made fun of the $17 Costco chairs I used to have. But they're very functional, those Costco chairs. You listen. These are beautiful chairs. I like these. I feel like Jean-Luc Picard.

Make it so, number one. Mike, I got to ask you if I can partake in this wonderful beer from Great Lakes. Okay, let's do it. Just for you, Jay, let's do this off the top. This six-pack in front of you, you have your own six-pack. Roddy has his own six-pack.

I do. That's 12 beer. I had the guys from Rusty, the band Rusty, were here on the weekend a couple weekends ago, and it cost me 18 beers because there were three of them. That's a lot of beer, but that's not me buying you that beer.

Great Lakes Brewery is giving you that beer. They are wonderful people, and I'd like to kiss the president right on the cheek. Thank him. If you see him, let him know. Peter Bullitt is the guy's name, which just sounds like a porno name, right? Peter Bullitt. I'm going to open

the over my dad body Pilsner. Very popular this time of year as Father's Day is coming up. That's nice. There she goes. That's nice. Thank you you very much that's an inspired choice uh please enjoy please enjoy now it's i joked about this before we started recording but um i'm gonna watch your alcohol intake because i'm a i'm now certified a smart i got a smart serve certification which means i can now legally serve uh alcohol at establishments like in retail stores that sell booze.

Yeah. Wow. Wow. Now, this is a private home. I don't need the SmartServe to actually serve you in my private home. But this weekend, what's today? Is today Wednesday? Wednesday, yeah.

Okay. Today, Wednesday? Wednesday, yeah. Okay. Saturday, I will be pouring beer at the Great Lakes Brewery Beer Tent at the Grilled Cheese Challenge at Lakeshore and 7th Street. A Grilled Cheese Challenge? Yeah. Are you interested?

I'm definitely interested. Is he interested? You should be a judge. This is something... I've never seen Jay so animated and excited. This is a real thing? This is something I've done in my own kitchen at night? Oh, my goodness.

No, it's a big deal. I always thought a grilled cheese challenge was a private event between a man and his George Foreman grill. Oh, man. You know, George Foreman named all of his sons George. Yeah. He also got punched in the face a lot, so I understand that choice. That contributed to that.

That's a smart choice, you know? That's great. If you're in a career where you will suffer memory loss, make your life easy. He's a guy who, if you watch those documentaries about in Zaire, in the Congo when he was fighting Ali, he was a bad man.

They made him to be this angry fellow. He was a quiet angry fellow. And then later in his career, he completely reinvents himself, George Foreman, as this happy-go-lucky, bright-eyed kind of guy. It's a complete reinvention of personality. I think it broke him to lose to Ali like he did in the jungle. And Ali telling him, we'll never fight again, essentially, because I just did it. I think it changed his life in a way that softened him.

And it wouldn't work if he was like this mad, angry guy trying to sell grills. That's true. You know, on the commercials. I'd rather buy a grill from a madman. Someone who's upset about, like, he's just angry. He really loves the idea of burning flesh. And yeah, he takes it out on the meat.

Yeah. Right. He's tenderizing the meat with his rage. Yeah, he takes it out on the meat. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that might work. He's tenderizing the meat with his rage. It makes for a better cut of beef. Who did George Foreman knock out to become champ when he was in his 40s? Do you remember who it was?

Was it Ray Mercer or somebody? I can't remember the guy's name. I'm not sure. Yeah, some no-name. He wasn't in the best shape towards the end of his career, but he still gave it. I think that tells you how weak the heavyweight, how weak the division was, like that

George Foreman could be champion. Boxing is an interesting sport, though. You have like these guys that come back. Bernard Hopkins, I believe, was like fighting for titles up until 48, and he was just amazing at it. So it's an interesting sport. George Cheval was a guy

I got a chance to meet, and he was incredible because when i met him he was very he's an older gentleman he had a handler with him who's helping him get around and uh he was moving slow which is understandable a man of advanced age like that a bit of shake right a little bit of a shake yeah but i went to talk to him i went to thank him and everything. And he looked at me and he's like, hey, boy, you're a big guy, huh? You're a big guy. And then he started to shadow box with me. But the speed of his hands were still so quick.

Like I could feel the force of the wind come towards my sternum. He could be champion now, you're saying. At that moment, I realized George Travalho could still murder me with his bare hands within three shots. How long ago was this encounter with George?

Two years probably. Two years. Two, three years ago. I saw him recently and I felt kind of bad for the guy. Like he was kind of being paraded out in public

and I thought maybe he was past that now. I'm not too sure how sharp he is anymore. Again, like if he doesn't like it, he has the capability to kill anyone with three of those shots. I've seen it doesn't like it, he has the capability to kill anyone

with three of those shots. I've seen it with my own eyes. I felt the wind on his punch. You don't want to be near that guy when he's angry. Here's a jam. I'm going to take us back. Jay, I can't tell your ages, you guys. I'm struggling with you two and your ages.

Jay could be anywhere between 25 and 55. Yeah, I'm 15, Mike. No, I'm 33 years old. All right, and Roddy, I feel like Roddy's older than that, but not a lot older. I'm a little older than Jay. Have you hit 40 yet? No, not yet.

Roddy's going to be 38 for the next 12 years, though. That's smart, because most people stop at 39. Roddy's like, fuck it, I'm going to stop at 38. All right, this is the Politics'm going to stop at 38. Kid. All right, this is the Politics of Dancing by The Reflex. This was a big jam

back in the 80s. Huge. I'm playing it for a reason, of course, but Roddy and Jay, I'm curious because we're going

to dive in. You guys got a very interesting history. You got a show together on SiriusXM. Yeah. Jay, you mentioned Y108. So you're on the terrestrial radio as well.

Doing that up. Yes. Roddy is a musician, a talented musician. Thank you. Not just a musician because I'm a musician. He's a professional. He's a good one. You have different levels of musician, that's for sure.

Yeah. I mean, you can sing in the shower. You're a musician. different levels of musician that's for sure yeah i mean you can sing in the shower you're a musician do you have any uh anything to say about the provincial election that takes place tomorrow wow i'm really looking forward to this doug ford majority i think that's what we're gonna get uh i'd like to just publicly support our new premier king. And when he strips the art council of all its powers, I hope I could stand behind him in some sort of government position. I'm saying this because I believe he'll just give favor to those who talk favorably of him.

And I just want to put it out now before he becomes the king of Ontario. I pegged you, the two of you, in the crossfire scenario. I have Roddy as the left-wing wing guy and I have Jay as the four nation right wing guy. Well, listen, I don't like to be serious for a moment. I don't know if I would vote for Doug. I wouldn't vote for anyone named Doug, first of all. Maybe Doug

Gilmore. Maybe. No, I honestly wouldn't vote for Doug Gilmore. What about Doug and the Slugs? No, not getting my vote. Not for premier. I think we have three bad choices right now. I don't see a great choice. But you are going to vote. Going to vote.

I just told Jay I'm going to vote for whoever he votes for. Yeah, he's in the way for me. You guys got to go behind the curtain together. Pretty much. Yeah, if they let us. They won't let you, but let me know if they do, actually. That'd be funny yeah it's uh so it's tomorrow uh it's one of those elections where i think usually i do

advance voting like i'll go and i'll find a convenient time to go advance so i don't have to worry about an election day but this time i didn't because i actually wanted to like sense how things were as recently as you know day of election like i didn't want to commit to a vote until election day and i'm glad because lots lots of stuff changed since the advanced poll shut down and now it just blows me away that i i feel like if we if the progressive conservatives would have just selected christine elliott we wouldn't even be having any conversation about this election be a foregone conclusion. They'd be measuring guides

in the offices right now, getting the drapes done. Do you know what I mean? For the PC party, it'd be over. 100% agreement, my friend Jay, because yes, I would still not vote for the PC party, but I would know that maybe they would win a majority easily and that the next premier was going to be

Christine Elliott. No-brainer. So what Doug has done is he's made it interesting, at least, that now there's a huge anyone but Ford contingent that seems to be moving to the NDP party. Just with the public opinion on Kathleen Wynne being so negative, all Doug would have had to do is just showed up and said, I'm Doug Ford, and taxes, we're going to cut him. Goodbye.

And then gone. And we just wave and then see later majority. And now it looks like who knows what's going to happen a day out. He's only lost himself points, I believe. I don't think he's won any new voters, in my opinion. I understand why people support him. I just haven't seen any. Well, I mean, you're preaching to a guy here who's always shocked that there is still this group of people who would vote a Ford into office.

Like, it's like banging your head against the wall and doing it again and again and again. Like, I just don't understand how he can be. Because his brother was the charming one. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like an inept politician and dim light bulb. But he had something there

where you could almost like the guy on some level. But Doug is like his brother without the likability. Well, Rob had this hard work thing behind him. He was really a workman. And I know this because

during his trials and tribulations, the very public ones, I would call him trying to get exclusive interviews and trying to book him on the shows. And I would get calls from him at midnight. Hey, this is Doug Ford, and I'm returning your call. So Doug, not Bob. Sorry, Rob.

This is Rob Ford returning your call. And I would just think to myself, I can't believe you're actually just calling numbers off. No, he was a decent counselor because you could get him on the phone. Exactly. A lousy mayor for practically the same reasons. But his brother has none of the charm. So I don't understand the, like, what do you like about Doug?

I don't see anything there to like. Am I crazy? No, but people aren't really, I don't think anyone's, no, you know, people are voting for Doug. I think they just want to change. I think they're scared of the direction the province is going in. And I think there's a good reason to do that. And who else are you going to vote for? You could go NDP,

but the NDP has less than a favorable record in the province. And a lot of people are still kind of weary because of the Ray days we had. So vote Green. Is that what you're telling me? I don't know. To be honest with you, if I would tell you what to vote for, I might go Liberal this time around

just because Kathleen Winsett stepped aside. It seems like she's going to be done. And give the party a vote, hopefully as an incentive to rebuild. I know people are just going to say, oh, you're just going to put Doug into power, but vote for who you want. Well, that's what I think.

That's where I'm at, is I feel if I vote Liberal, it's giving Doug his majority, which I don't want, so me and my progressive friends are parking our vote with the NDP this round. We'll see how things turn out tomorrow. It should be interesting.

Roddy, how many tattoos are on your body right now? I don't know. All my arms and hands are done, but I count them as one each. So that's like two, and then I have one on my chest and my back. They're just big ones. I'd say I have four. But if I counted each individual one, I'd probably have

300. So how long does it take to get an arm tattoo like that? In total, this probably took 16 hours maybe for one arm. So I probably have 50 hours on my body I would say.

Wow, like I have no ink. Do you have any ink on you, Jay? I have one small tattoo. You don't count that as a tattoo. That's about it. Oh yeah. It's almost like a birthmark or something. I got that at the request of a lady, pretty much. He got matching tattoos. We got matching tattoos during a lust-filled summer on Spadina.

I think that's kind of cute. Well, I don't think Vic Router has any tattoos either. He's a classy man. You never know. I would be shocked. Maybe I'll get him back on and ask him, but I'd be shocked if he had a tattoo. So Vic was on the show. He's the last guest.

And I wrote this in email. You're the meat in the Vic Grouter's Stephen Brunt sandwich. Oh boy. Fantastic. No pressure. We spoiled that sandwich, I think. So Vic comes in to kick out the jams and he's talking about his love

for Gladys Knight and the Pips so we're listening to Gladys Knight and the Pips right now Good jam, great tune It is a great, let's hear a bit of this for a second before I play some Vic And you guys know what a Pip is No That's the name of the Gladys Knight backup guys, like there's these And you guys know what a pip is? No.

That's the name of the Gladys Knight backup guys. I think they're brothers and cousins and stuff. They're the ones you hear the male voices you hear in the song. And they're kind of doing this synchronized dance thing. And that's a pip. So let's hear... Let Gladys fade out here. What's a pip, though? That guy.

That's a cool name for the guy. It's got to mean something. Yeah, but isn't there expressions like, what a pip? I've never heard such a thing. I've never heard it. What a pip. Yeah, well, let's listen here for a couple of seconds here. This is my conversation with Vic Rauter here.

Yes, I mean, I might, from the Temps to Temptations, the Supremes, oh my goodness, Smokey Robinson, I loved it all. Still do. Still love it all. And in fact, people who know me,

the one thing if I could have ever been, I just wanted to be a Pip. I would just, just once to stand behind pip. Oh, gladdest night in the pip. I would just once to stand behind her when she's doing midnight train to Georgia, and when they go woo-woo to pull on the imaginary. You know, we can still make this dream come true. It's not too late. You never know.

You're still glad as mates. She sang out, remember on Memorial Day, she sang between intermissions at the Las Vegas. Still a great voice and a very attractive lady. Now, we've got to make this happen. I'll see what I can do in social media. But Steve, imagine. Make Vic a pip.

Make Vic a pip. We'll get Jay and Dan to help out. They've got a good social media following. They were all cousins, I think. Brothers and cousins. All right, so guys, in the room, when Vic Rauter is talking about his lifelong dream to be a pip, you should have seen the man's face.

Like, you can't hear it, but he lights up like a Christmas tree. Vic Rauter's sitting where Roddy is now, and he just lit up. His dream is to be a pip. Do you think he's at home in his living room with the song on, doing the moves? For sure. Might have, like, a special tux that he would wear.

I think he sleeps in a tux. I looked up pip. It actually means the first meaning is a small hard seat in a fruit, but the second meaning is an excellent or very attractive person or thing. Vic Rauer is definitely a pip then. Yeah, he is a pip, but he's a pip, small P pip. He wants to be a capital P pip. Small P pip.

Not a good sentence for a guy who pops his peas. So if you guys, anyone listening can get the hashtag, make Vic a pip. That's the hashtag we got to get. And get that to the attention of Gladys Knight. We got to make Vic's, I think we can make his dream come true. I would love to hear that. Could you imagine though, like Gladys Knight comes to you,

where do they go to, like Casino Rama or something? And Vic Router gets to be a pip on Midnight Train to Georgia. He's got such a great voice, like, just as a talker. You know? Vic, the final! Yeah, he doesn't even need to. I want to hear him narrate other things, like my love life, you know? Another

disappointment for Jay Brody. It just sounds so nice. Close, but no cigars. And it's over as soon as it began. Jay is finished. He's left dejected at the bar. You know, I would love, I would feel

better about everything if that was the case. That's funny. So I think that sometimes people have these dreams and they're way lofty dreams and you can't help. That's not going to happen, but good luck. Go try your best, but you're not going to reach that dream. But I feel like Vic's got a dream here to be a pip that it could happen. That's all I'm thinking.

It seems attainable to me. We can make it happen. We just have to find Gladys Knight's schedule. Yeah. See when she's coming to town and get him on the stage. How old is she now? She's up there, but she's still not that old. Do you think so?

Probably. It was the 60s when she was singing. Yeah. We could just get him on the stage and he could just be a pip, but we won't tell her. He just walked her on the stage. I feel like she's younger than that,

but you're right. She's definitely probably in her 70s for sure. Did you guys know the last surviving munchkin from Wizard of Oz died this week? Oh, that's a sad story. That's a sad story. Only the good die young.

Yeah. All right. So, Jay, how do you enjoy your beverage there, your Great Lakes Brewing? Great Lakes Brewing, the Over My Dad Body Pilsner,

delight. A delight. Great artwork on the can here. It's a gentleman enjoying a sunny day with a hot dog in his hand and a beer on his belly. He's living the life. Really living the dream.

Now, I have a message for you guys. There's a gentleman named Brian Gerstein. He is a sales representative of PSR Brokerage. He's a proud sponsor of this program. And he's recorded a message for you, Jay, and you, Roddy. So let's listen to Brian. Propertyinthe6.com Hi, Jay and Roddy. Brian Gerstein here, sales representative with PSR Brokerage and proud sponsor of Toronto Might.

416-873-0292 is the number to call or text me for any real estate needs you have. The main numbers are in, and the total number of homes sold in Toronto on the GTA is down over 22% from a year ago, and the average home sale price is down 6.6%. As I have been advising you, the time to buy a detached home is now, depending on your neighbourhood, which I can break down for you. Wow. Because you guys are fans of comedy. Yes. Our show, The Dumb Show, Wednesday, Sirius XM, Channel 160, and Canal Laughs. We curate some great comedy. We get to pick

and then play our own sketch comedy as well. Who are your favorites, Roddy? That's a tough one, man. Dead or alive. I gotta throw Howie Mandel on the list. Mandel was... He surprised us because we have to play a certain amount

of Canadian comedy on our show, so we were looking for some Canadian comics and we're like, let's try Howie. We turn him on and he is like a pretty foul-mouthed... Yeah, he's a killer. I didn't realize that about him. Is he like the Canadian Bob Saget in that you don't realize how blue he is when he's doing Santa? He's not as blue as Bob Saget.

It seems more natural, but it is delightful. It's just funny. He's got this great way about him. His jokes are quick. His crowd work is outstanding. He could probably go out and just do crowd work for an hour and a half. And not do a single joke and just kill

the whole audience. And he just bought into the Just for Laughs festival, right? Yeah, and a lot of people were very kind of in the community anyways a little apprehensive about this because they're worried it would be leaving Canadian hands, seeing that he lives mostly in the United States, a little apprehensive about this because they're worried it'll be leaving Canadian hands seeing that he lives mostly in the United States. But he's a legend.

And if anyone's going to take on that festival, it should be somebody who's that good at comedy. I like Dave Chappelle. I got to see him live at Massey Hall a few years back. And he just kind of... It was like a two and a half hour show maybe. And it felt kind of like just sitting in a two and a half hour show maybe. And it felt kind of like just sitting in a living room with him.

I think he's really smart. Like I think his comedy is really sharp too. I'm a big fan of, I'm not a deep dive connoisseur like you guys. I'm more of like a regular Joe when it comes to comedy. And Chappelle, like if I had to put my Mount Rushmore together,

I think Chappelle just makes me laugh and he makes me think. Like it's a deadly combination of laughter and stuff that sticks with you and thought-provoking stuff. He's so open, too. He did this wonderful interview with James Lipton behind the actor's studio.

I don't know what that show's called. Yeah, that's what it's called. It was fascinating, just the way he talks openly about his career and his experiences and how Hollywood weighs on people. An amazing comic. I've got to throw him up there. I'd also want to see Sam Kinison

in his prime. I can't even do a Sam Kinison, but it's bad, bad Sam Kinison. That was like a monkey doing a Sam Kinison. I realized as I started, I was going to try to do a Sam Kinison, and I pulled it back, and I'm like, no, Mike, don't do that. It's a tough one.

The thing about him is that you'll hear comics from back in his day, like 80s, 90s, who said that he was the best. All the best comedians you can think of who worked with Sam said he was the best. It was impossible to follow him, which I think is the best compliment that a comedian could give another comedian. which I think is the best compliment that a comedian could give another comedian. And really, his childhood being so unique, where his whole personality shifted and changed dramatically after he suffered a traumatic head injury when he was hit by a car. I don't think I knew this. Yeah, he was hit by a car, hit his head,

and his parents reported that he changed completely. He was like a different person, and that's what kind of brought him into comedy. Like when Barney from The Simpsons drinks. Remember he was like a buttoned down scholar? Yes. And then he had that taste of beer and then he became Barney Gumbel.

He was an amazing dude. So fascinating story. I'd love to see him in his prime. He had some bad, like he got hooked on drugs and then his performances suffered, but I think prime Kinison, just because so many

of the greats, like Roddy said, really cite him as the best ever. I'd love to see it. And his guest appearance on Married with Children was pretty epic,

as I recall. That was a Christmas carol, right? Yes. He was a ghost of, yeah, he was fantastic. Yeah,

Sammy Kinison. So, Sammy Kinison, Dave was fantastic. And, yeah, Sammy Kinison. So Sammy Kinison, Dave Chappelle. I'd throw in... I would almost group these two guys together, Stephen Wright and Mitch Hedberg, because they're both just those short, little... Dry, observational... Yeah, but really clever.

And, yeah, I just... I love that type of humor. Those guys are amazing because you could kind of mix music with their shows. I know Mitch did that a lot. You just have like a bass line and like a jazz band play while they're doing jokes and it still works. Yeah, just tossing off one-liners. Actually, the king of that, who I'd put above them is Rodney Dangerfield.

If you listen to his old stuff, he's unbelievable. No respect. And a lot of people sleep on Joan Rivers too. They go real back. Jay, have some respect. She's dead. I sleep on Joan Rivers, too. They go real back. Have some respect. She's dead. I didn't mean like that, Ronnie.

That's rude. But her rapid fire manner of joke telling, also the way, and she was like the first female comic to really go out there on stage. Yeah, yeah. Her and Phyllis Diller or something. Yeah. go out there on stage. Yeah, yeah. Like her and Phyllis Diller or something.

And she stayed legendary so long and would just rip on people and do that at a time. You couldn't imagine what she must have faced doing that in a day. And you can go really old school

and go with like a Jackie Mason or something like that. Yeah. But who did you mention? Yeah, the Mitch Hedberg gone way too soon there. A lot of people mistake him for Stephen Wright. Like I know they, the Mitch Hedberg gone way too soon there. A lot of people mistake him for Stephen Wright.

Like I know they'll quote a Hedberg thing and attribute it to Wright or whatever because they had such similar styles. I still am a big Reservoir Dogs fan. So the super sounds of the 70s, that's Stephen Wright doing the DJ voice in that movie. It's funny where comedians end up. Like George Carlin, another legend,

ended up doing... He ended up dying. Yeah, okay. He did end up dying. But you're thinking of... He was a train conductor. Yes, he was a train conductor. He took over for...

So Ringo Starr, I believe, was the original. Thomas the Tank Engine. I got a four-year-old. I know this stuff. So Ringo Starr started. Then it was George Carlin. Yeah. And then it was Alec Baldwin. Which is amazing, right?

The trifecta of conductors. What a weird bunch of people to host a kids show. But Carlin was in, also of course he was in, well he's in movies, not only The Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures, but also he did Dogma. Remember? Yeah, it was amazing in that.

It's just a funny, odd mix of guys hosting this kid's show. I wouldn't let Alec Baldwin near a four-year-old. I wouldn't trust him. How'd they get Ringo to agree to that? That guy's a beetle, man. That's true. But he was looking for work. It was the happy train.

Was he broke? What happened there? Ringo, we got a great job. All those jams were attributed. All those great hits were the publishing rights were always Lennon McCartney so maybe he needed a few bucks for his lifestyle.

He only had like Octopus's Garden and a couple other tunes. Yeah. He had the first, I think he had the first because all the Beatles go solo in like 69, 70, they all start solo stuff. I think Ringo had the first solo hit. Yeah, Photograph.

Is that the one? How does that go? You're the singer in the group. Do you remember? I was like, When I see you. It's nice. It's great.

It's a great song. And he had that song, You're 16, You're Beautiful. Yeah. You're 16, you're beautiful, and you're mine. Oh, that's rough. Yeah. You can't sing that now.

There's a whole list of songs that I saw this list on a website of songs that you couldn't sing now that they sang in the 60s and 70s about like falling in love with teenagers and stuff. But back then, I guess it was. Well, Hayden, who's a Toronto or Hayden Desser, his big hit had the lyric, girl of my dreams. Things are as bad as... Something about she's 16. That's why she's only a dream.

But he wrote the scene when he was like 21. But he still sings this song all the time, but he changed it. I think he no longer says she's 16. That's why she's only a dream. I think now he changed says, she's 16, that's why she's only a dream. I think now he changed it to, she's 23, that's why she's only a dream. We went pretty far with that. You can go 18, right? She's

18. She's only a dream. You know, that's fine. Well, when you're like 45, it might be a little weird. He was 21 when he wrote the song, in his defense there. But 18, that's a great Alice Cooper jam. I think Alice Cooper is a highly underrated singer songwriter I'm just throwing it out there yeah

he's great I love them like he's just such a great look too yeah you know ghoulish I have so that was Brian's question and you guys were great to run down some of your favorite stand-ups Brian sometimes when a musician's on Brian sometimes asks the same

Beatles question which I quite like so I'm going to ask it this is on behalf of Brian Gerstein at propertyinthesix.com I'm going to ask this of Roddy because Jay can you sing?

You can't really sing right? A little bit Jay's actually not bad Is that right? You guys should consider He has a nice sounding voice but he's a little tone deaf

but his voice sounds pleasing Roddy rides me like a bike when we're doing sketch comedy and trying to sing it's just It's funny You're out of. Roddy rides me like a bike when we're doing sketch comedy and trying to sing. It's just... It's funny. You're out of tune. Well, Roddy's got...

I mean, we're going to play some Roddy songs later in the program and they're fantastic, to be honest. I was listening. They're actually really good. But Roddy,

here's my question for you and then Jay, you can answer it too. But Roddy, of all the Beatles when they went solo, who had the best work of art as a solo artist

amongst the four Beatles? That's a good question. In your humble opinion, it's very subjective. I think Lennon was my favorite Beatle, but I think McCartney's solo stuff, just because I was a big Wings fan. I really enjoyed Wings.

Band on the Run is one of those, it's got so many parts to it. It's like this epic solo. it. It's like this epic, it's just genius, I think. Yeah, Wings Greatest is awesome, but Lennon's,

all his solo stuff is really, really fantastic too. And Jay, I guess you're going to go with Ringo. I'm going to give it to Harrison, right?

Did he do that, that oh my lord. My sweet lord, but he got sued because the Chiffons had, he's so fine. He got sued. But he got sued because the Chiffons had He's So Fine. He got sued for subconsciously stealing the tune from the Chiffons.

He's so fine. Oh, wow. He stole that song? Well, subconsciously, they said. I really like the, I guess, putting out a song that I respect so much because the balls you must have to do that. You really need to have big cojones to put out this multi-religious song that's trying to touch on

such a big idea. It's almost like a religious meditation, that song. It's a beautiful song. Yeah, it really could have blew up in his face. And All Things Must Pass, there's a lot of good George Harrison. I really like Harrison for that reason. I Got My Mind Set On You, great tune. Great tune.

Which was a cover, by the way. No. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I was surprised too because I bought that.

I went to Sam the Recommender to buy the 45 single of Got My Mind Set On You because I liked it so much by George Harrison. And then later in my life, I learned via this thing called the internet

that it's a cover. I'm 99.9% sure. Does anyone have a smartphone they want to search while I do a little... Here's what I'll do. Wow. You search that., that it's a cover. I'm 99.9% sure. Does anyone have a smartphone they want to search while I do a little, here's what I'll do. You search that. I believe it's a cover. You're going to confirm for us all.

And I'm going to tell you guys, because I'm looking at Jay right now. He looks like a man who has bills to pay. You got bills to pay? Yeah, he sure does. And I got a script here. I'm not reading the script. I'm going to tell you straight from the heart. See, I'm right, right? Yeah, it's a cover. And it's a great song, and I wish like I got a script here I'm not reading the script I'm going to tell you straight from the heart

see I'm right right yeah it's a cover so and it's a great song and I wish it was his but he covered it so Paytm this is an app

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do it up Jay huge I'm going to use your promo code I don't think it's fair that they charge you just for being a man what do you mean

a surcharge oh boo see he is a comedy expert that's not how it works Ronnie you sure women have to pay charge you just for being a man. What do you mean? The surcharge. Oh, boo. See, he is a comedy expert. That's not how it works, Roddy. You sure? Women have to pay the surcharge, too. Madam charge. They should rename it.

Everyone charge. Who, Roddy, you did the Googling there. Oh, yeah. Who's the original artist? Did you take note? Yeah, so it was 1962. Rudy Clark wrote it, and then the first recording was a dude named James Ray.

And it was called I've Got My Mind Set On You. Close enough. George dropped the I've. That was his question. I'm a little bit of an expert on covers you don't know are covers. Did you know that Girls Just Wanna Have Fun by

Cyndi Lauper is a cover? What? During this mention don't know our covers, did you know that Girls Just Wanna Have Fun by Cyndi Lauper is a cover? Who? During this mention, Roddy's gonna look at it. Roddy's my official... Blowing my mind musically here, Mike. That's my job. By the way, Nana Muscuri. Nana Muscuri's singing right now. Beautiful. This woman is a

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heavily, maybe $30. See, that sounds like a deal right there. Save some money. What part of the city do you live in? I am up in the Brampton, Ontario. Roddy lives near me. Well, that's not in the city at all. No, not at all.

You can't even... Oh, yeah. This is a provincial election. I thought the mayoral election you don't get to vote for. Roddy's near Liberty Village. Yeah, I am, yeah. He lives there. Green West-ish.

Good times, Roddy. Hip people live there. So cool. Yeah, we do. But, Roddy, do you enjoy going to TFC matches? No. No.

Strongly no. I really don't care. You're strongly opposed to that. It just makes bad traffic around my area so I really hate it. I can imagine.

A lot of drunks in red shirts show up. And what's the name of the big bar that's in Liberty Village that they all go to? Do you guys remember the name?

I can't remember. There's Local, there's Williams Landing. Those are two big ones that do a lot of business during those games. Oh, you know what it is? It's the Brazen Head.

Brazen Head, that's the one I'm actually making up. So Roddy, professional Googler, did you learn that girls just want to have fun as a cover?

It was written by a man named Robert Hazard in 1979. Wow, that's real disappointing. I know. Who recorded it first? Do you have a name there? It was recorded first by him, by Robert Hazard. Right, there you go. Hazard County.

Imagine a guy writing that song, Girls Want to Have Fun. Yeah, girls, they just want to have fun. Let's start. Jay, can I start with Roddy? Here's what I want to know. Where I met you guys was on the Todd Shapiro show. That's right. I'm going to just bring us up to that,

and then I'll take over from there. Roddy, what were you up to before I met you on the Todd Shapiro show a few years ago? I was in a band called Rebel Emergency for about 12 years. We recorded four albums and toured all around Canada and the U.S. and Jamaica a little bit. Yeah, because there was like a reggae vibe to Rebel Emergency. Yeah, we actually had a Jamaican guy in our band for a couple years before he got arrested and taken away from us forever.

Oh, is he deported? Is he Canadian? No. It's a long story. I'll say the 30 second version, but basically, we went to New York City. We're a band in Toronto, went to New York to record in the Bronx with

this Jamaican dance hall producer. Okay, yeah. And he wanted to record a live band because he'd just been recording with artists, solo artists. So we recorded a few tunes with them, like our rock songs. And on the last night of being down in the Bronx, he's like, let's try this dance hall reggae kind of song together. So we recorded that song together. So we

recorded that song together, drove back to Toronto the next day. When we were playing the songs for everyone, we had our tunes, our like five rock tunes, and then the song with his name was Panic. Everyone was like, what is that song? Like everyone kind of gravitated towards that. In New York, everyone was doing the same thing to him. So his brother who had some cash called us up and said, move to New York. Quit your jobs. We're going to come down here. I'll pay for everything. We'll make an album together.

So we got hooked up with his producer, Commissioner Gordon who had produced Lauryn Hill and Amy Winehouse. He had a bunch of Grammys and stuff. Help that man. I was going to say. Yeah, he helped that, man.

The Commissioner Gordon. Basically recorded an album with him, started touring, and little did we know that Panic, when we first went to the Bronx, the guys he was hanging out with were a gang. I did air quotes who were bringing in drugs and stuff. And they were slowly

getting arrested one by one over the course of six to eight months. I saw them in Narcos, I think. Yeah, it was those guys.

So eventually they caught up to panic. We were in San Diego. We were on stage, actually. And the cops busted in. Probably 10 police officers, helicopters, dog team, everything. And took him down.

He got 15 years in jail. Wow. We had to play a giant show the next day. So I ended up having to sing all his parts, like the patois Jamaican parts. You should have called Darren O'Brien, aka Snow, and see if he'd help you. We actually jammed a lot with Snow. He's super talented, that dude.

Yeah. He used to come to our rehearsals and we'd just play with him for a couple hours, and he was really good. But anyways, where was I? So wait, you're in San Diego, so Panic gets arrested. Panic got arrested.

Who else was in the band? There was five other dudes. So is it four Toronto guys? Five Toronto guys and Panic. Five Toronto guys and Panic. So the arresting guy, Panic was arrested, but none of the Toronto guys were arrested. Yeah, we were all good.

You were behaving yourselves okay so we kind of had to regroup after that and move back to Toronto recorded three more albums toured around a little bit more and then um kind of felt like we were spinning our wheels at some point it's like okay we gave it a good run try something else so I started this other band called Most Non-Heineous did two albums with them, and then I just finished my second solo record in the last couple months. Okay, we're going to get to the solo after, yes. But yeah, Rebel Emergency,

I mean, I think that's a well-known band. People know Rebel Emergency. Yeah, we did all right. We're doing pretty good. But when did you, so what year approximately did you officially break up Rebel Emergency I'd say around

2012 okay 2013 somewhere around there when I I'm trying to think when I met you I guess later than that

but not too much yeah I started on Todd's show I think what was it 2014 okay so now okay so there we are

so now we're gonna play your solo stuff later it's great and you're on Shapiro's show that's where I. So now we're going to play your solo stuff later. It's great. And you're on Shapiro Show. That's where I meet you. Now let's go to Jay.

Do-do-do-do-do. Need transition music for this. So Jay. Yes. What the heck were you up to before I met you on the Todd Shapiro Show? I was a construction finish supervisor working in condos. Nice. I would, but to get there, I spent like 10 years

just slugging literal bottles of piss around. There was like pee-filled bottles. I was a laborer. I worked my way up. Like literal bottles of piss. Who's pissing these bottles? Because when you're building a... Let's say you're building a condo.

The laborers don't want to walk 10 stories down to use a toilet, especially when there's no running water. So they'll pee in these plastic bottles. Like the truckers who go across. They don't want to walk 10 stories down to use a toilet, especially when there's no running water. So they'll pee in these plastic bottles. Like the truckers who go across. They don't want to stop to piss in a plastic bottle. So they send Jay Brody with the piss bottle cleanup. And I was doing that.

I was listening to different podcasts. And I'm like, well, what I want to do is get into radio. I can't do this. This is driving me crazy. I got promoted and stuff and became a supervisor. And then this was back at the time when there was the Dean Blundell show. Right. Once, I guess, Jason Barr ended up leaving the show, getting fired.

He was fired. Yeah. He's been on this show to talk about it. He gets fired from the show. I realized that I felt like that show would collapse and there'd be a hole in the market. So I started a podcast with a friend called The Last Gentleman Podcast.

And once that took off the ground, at that point, Todd was then fired. There's no relation. We were just doing a podcast. But Todd gets fired. Then we start picking up more listeners. The Last Gentleman podcast gets more popular.

What does it say? Say the name slower. The Last Gentleman podcast. Okay, The Last Gentleman podcast. And I contacted Todd at the time when he got let go. And I said, listen, I'd love to work with you on anything that you got coming up next. I felt Todd's last year on that show was very strong in spite of him getting fired from there. I didn't think it was a content issue, but I reached out to him and we connected like that. And on the first day of SiriusXM, I didn't even

realize I would be a radio. I thought I would just come over during the first day. We'll produce the show. So I thought I'd be the guy that would kind of sit in the corner without a mic. And he just pointed at the chair and he's like, sit there. And I was like, oh, shoot. It's going down. This is going down. Your co-host. Yeah.

And that's how it started. But see, at the time, though, Mike, the problem was I was still a very... I was still in charge of finishing a building. Right. You can't quit your day job yet. Can't quit my day job because I wasn't getting paid at the time there

for what I was doing. So I had to secretly sneak away every single day. Wow. In the morning for an hour. Yeah, the show was 9 to 10, right? The show was 9 to 10. So I had to show up at the job site at like... So you just said, I gotta take a leak, and then you'd come back

like 90 minutes later. I would show up at the job site at 7, get everyone going, then walk out at like 8.15, come back at 10.40, and pretend like I was there the whole time. I had a crew of guys who just would continuously

blackmail me, essentially, for eight months. I was doing both when they knew both. So they were like, hey, Jay, I'm not coming in tomorrow. I'm like, yeah, okay. Well, I'm going to not pay you. He's like, nope, you're going to pay me. Oh, man. Yeah, well, I guess you're right. I'm going to pay you. Because this is stressful, right? Trying to live this. You're like a secret agent.

You're living a double life. Well, yeah, that's why. It's like cheating on your girl or something. My real name is Jay Brody. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. It's like cheating on your girl or something. My real name is Jay Brody. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Breaking news. You're not Jay Brody. Brody is your fake name. Brody was a fake name because I didn't want the people I worked for,

the very scary people I worked for, by the way, to realize that it was a different person. Because they might tune in SiriusXM and hear Jay Brody on the radio, and they'll be like, that guy's totally carrying a bottle of piss right now. Why isn't he fixing? And this is the radio and they'll be like, that guy's supposed to be carrying a bottle of piss right now. Why isn't he fixing And this is live and they'll clue in. This is the fear, right? But you sound like Jay Rohde

even though you're Jay Brody. A little different, but people think it's different on the radio. So I just don't want to be like, why isn't he not in suite 312 cleaning up those tiles? Okay, here's a pro tip though. Because your voice, because Jay Brody and Jay Rohde sound so similar, maybe your name should have been a little different. Yeah. Those names are veryay rody jay brody i'm very similar i just i i didn't want to stray too far from who i really am so uh i try to keep it similar and people just

call me brody and stuff and i was able to keep that lie going for eight whole months wow yeah it was very stressful that's like a little movie. That's a movie screenplay, you know? Yeah. Yeah, that's intense. So let me ask you this. So let me ask you this. Because I was involved at the very beginning of the Todd Shapiro show. I was involved on some level.

Todd was here. My wife took photos of him. The initial website, I built the initial website that Todd had for his podcast because the blueprint in the back end was pretty much what I designed for Humble and Fred. Yes. So anyway, I had an interesting perspective on the whole Todd Shapiro thing. And I met you guys by coming on the show. So you

were, were you producing the Todd Shapiro show or you just sat there as a co-host? I was a co-host and we would produce bits and stuff and we all helped book guests. But how did so you got to know Roddy on the show. You don't know Roddy until you meet him on

Shapiro. Roddy and Jeff, the guitar player, just walk in the door one day, and they're on the show, and that was how we met. We were the house band initially. Yeah, which one of my appearances in the early days, I was invited a couple times, and I biked over to Liberty Village

and I went on and I really liked that this house band was playing live and sounded good. Yeah. I thought that, to be honest, maybe the best part of the Todd Shapiro show was the two guys playing the music and the Jay Brody contribution.

It was, listen, I think for a solid couple of months we had one of the best shows, one of the best radio shows anywhere. But only for two months. Maybe a little longer. Yeah, we had like a good six-month run, I think.

It was fun, man. We had Anna Saison, she's a beautiful singer. I met Anna. She was dynamic and charming. She thought I did a 14-kilometer ride and I might and charming. She thought I did a 14-kilometer ride, and I might as well have told her I did a 400-kilometer ride, the way she reacted.

And I felt really good. If she only knew, it was my shortest ride of the month or whatever. She wouldn't have been numbers, really. She's not the best with math. She was like, 14 kilometers? That's so far. And I'm like, well, it's not really that far. It's not that far.

No. She was... For a far. It's not that far. For a bicycle. Maybe if you're walking. She's a yoga instructor too, part-time. It's amazing. What show made her famous? Canadian Idol? I think she was on Canadian Idol. She's known for Canadian Idol. Anna Sison. That's right.

This is like the glory days of the time. It's the best. We had a great show for a little bit there. One of the best. Okay, but did he ever pay you? We were getting like, you know, pay at the beginning. Probably no pay for... I didn't get paid for a bit. Yeah, probably the first...

I didn't mind it at the start because I was like, I've never done radio so let me come in and show you right you're getting uh also yeah you're getting right you're trading kind of free labor if you will in exchange for like an education yes you wouldn't get that experience anywhere else and we were building uh something together and stuff i think so at the time it seemed like it was great. We weren't making much money at the beginning. However, it's a different kind of deal there.

It's not traditional. It's not like there was a ton of money getting thrown around in that room anyway. Well, I have a bit of perspective on this, too. It's possible. You tell me I'm wrong. Well, I have a bit of perspective on this too. It's possible that... It's possible. You tell me I'm wrong. Sirius XM doesn't pay a lot for content, but you'll get the exposure and the big platform

where there's a big audience because a lot of people subscribe. And you can then, in theory, you can then get your own advertisers and you can sell advertising based on the fact you're on SiriusXM. Like this is a model that a couple of guys I know who are on that station might utilize.

Yeah, like I don't know if it's like that for everybody, but I'd say that's a fair assessment, yeah. So you're on Todd Shapiro's show and you're doing great work. I actually was really impressed because I had a lot of experience on the Humble and Fred show, which had a different vibe.

The Todd Shapiro show, like I said, live musicians and playing you out kind of thing. And then it just felt kind of like it was all humming along. So what the hell happened? That's a tough one, right? Remember, it's real talk is the slogan for the Toronto Mike experience.

I think, so again, we had one of the for a while, one of the best shows, I think, anywhere. And still really, to this day, really proud of what we did there. I think the reality of not getting paid for doing a show like that wore on a lot of people. I think there was a lot of ego problems in the room. I think Todd's focus changed too after he had a kid. He got more worried about bringing the money in for himself or whatever and not worrying really about the show as much as what was happening on the show.

There's a lot of that. I think everyone... See, the thing is when you're not in control of the pay and you're doing a show like that, your number one focus is to make the best show in the world so that you can get paid faster, right? And that was, I think, a lot of people's focus on that show. We're going to make the best show in the world

and then everyone's going to come. And then that'll put us all in this place. Because content is king. So yeah, create a good product. And then you can almost like create the great product. And then you can monetize it later. Or maybe then you can talk to more sponsors. You know how you have sponsors on your show.

And they come. And the better your numbers are, the better show that you end up getting. These are wonderful sponsors. You'll attract new brands. And different brands and stuff like that. So our focus was to make the best show, and I think Todd's focus became to get more sponsors and keep the money coming in. Right.

And that would normally be fine. It just wasn't. Egos got involved at that point and a lot of people questioned pay and there's a lot of confusion. Okay so I know I can tell you're being careful here and I don't blame you it's okay I'm going to just

it's okay so it sounds like because I know that there was big companies like Pizza Pizza for example because I know that there was big companies like Pizza Pizza, for example. Because I remember, because Humble and Fred had that sponsor. And then Vanelli?

What's his name? Pat Vanelli? Pat Vanelli. I know he sponsored the Todd Shapiro show as well. So, I mean, and he doesn't pay in pizza. He pays in dollar bills. He did pay a little bit in pizza. Just a bit, though.

But enough. It was a good amount of pizza. I would let him sponsor this show for pizza. That would be amazing. Just a bit, though. But enough. It was a good amount of pizza. I would let him sponsor this show for pizza. That would be amazing. No, no. Listen, there's big... There was a lot of big brands that came aboard. And the promise for a lot of us was once X, Y, and Z sign on, then you'll get a certain

amount of money. Which is fair. Once you start generating revenue, then whatever the percentage is, that's fair for the couple of cogs in the wheel. That was just like a continuous promise, though. He kept going. I'm cluing in now. He didn't want to pay for your labor.

So once A, B, and C signed on, then you'll get paid. And then it became once A, B, C, and D signed on, and then you'll get paid. Then once A and B signed on, C signed on. Okay, and once A, B, C, D, E, F sign on, and we're talking about sponsors, then this will happen. And then we started losing talented members of our team

because they were kind of losing faith in it. I think a lot of what kind of, I can speak for myself personally, we all kind of bought into the show mantra at the beginning was we're going to co-promote and promote each other and push people's brands and all build up together. So I'm a funny guy. Roddy's a talented musician. Anna's beautiful.

We had Jeff who's... She's more than beautiful, though. Yeah, more than beautiful. She's also a talented communicator. Jeff is a great musician. Todd is a personality. You take all those people together put them in the room and you can collaborate and we can focus our energy behind roddy's new music

and we could push that high like i can use my context we all work together and we can raise each other up to this huge standard and that was what we i think a lot of what the show was about initially but behind the scenes it was it felt like well this is a lie that's not really what we're doing we're saying that's what this is about but when it came time to go we're gonna promote each other then the that stopped there was like certain instructions and that came out sorry that came out uh the most towards the end of when me and jay were on there when we tried to branch out a little bit, we wanted to start our own podcast, which we wanted to include Todd in, actually.

And if you listen to our first few episodes, we have commercials for the Todd Shapiro show. But he just did not like us doing that at all. Like 0%. You used the word ego at some point. I'm assuming that was applied to Todd in that maybe

he's the star of the show it's called the Todd Shapiro show so I mean yeah well he earned that like he

well he was on a very very successful terrestrial morning show the Dean Blundell show he was there for over a decade and listen

he deserved he put a great team together, people, put us together. He just showed up. I think he just told you to sit in the seat. He didn't recruit you or whatever. It worked. I give him his credit. That worked. I think ego got out of hand

that we got into a lot of issues. I probably should have left the show. We had one, and I do regret not leaving at this point, personally. I wouldn should have left the show We had one and I do regret Not leaving at this point Personally I wouldn't have had the experiences with Roddy Wouldn't have grown but There's a point where

Roddy puts out a new piece of music I think this is when you put out the most non-heinous album And I was at this point Board-opping so We would go to commercial break and come back and bring a song on Right You play a music bed as it's called And it's usually just like 20 seconds of music dopping so we would go to commercial break and come back and bring a song on right and you play a music bed as it's called and it's usually just like 20 seconds of music you don't really

acknowledge it mostly in radio when you're doing transition music it's just something to soothe your brain into hearing a commercial from hearing a commercial into hearing a man talk again right just to get easy into it that's abrupt i hear that hear that. And I made, I guess, a point to play a lot of Roddy's music at least once a show as a bumper. One, because, again, I believed in the whole we're co-promoting, we're building each other's brands.

And also, as a producer at the time, I felt like if I'm listening to this show and then I hear this amazing song and then the singer's just chilling on that show and he's a part of that show. That's amazing. The show sounds so cool. Yeah. And I was asked to not play, like don't play

Roddy's music anymore, only play hits. And I was like, what? I was taken aback by it. It was an honest conversation. Right, because you're not, compensation, there's two ways to compensate somebody. One is exposure slash experience. We have unpaid interns in the radio industry all the time, right?

And then the second thing is cash dollars, money. Like money that you can actually buy bread with. And if you're not getting... And then this is me talking, right? What do I know? But if you're not getting your fair cut of the cash dollars money, at the very least, don't inhibit the exposures slash... Yeah. at the very least don't inhibit the exposures slash...

Not to say that the cut wasn't... Listen, I do believe, in my opinion, we should have got paid more for doing this show. We also bought into a lot of promises that never came true. And that's ultimately on... I take personal responsibility for all my decisions, so I get that. But that was kind of counterintuitive. That's counter to the whole positivity cross-promotion part

that we were telling our listeners that we all bought into. Like, as people, we bought into that. Right. So who quit? Like, who quit first? Because you quit the Todd Shapiro show. We were basically told that... You were fired from the Todd Shapiro show.

I was fired. It was weird. It's kind of blurry. It's kind of both, I guess. A little bit of both. It was like, hey, listen, we're not going to be able to pay you. Because we were making a bit of money.

It wasn't a lot. I think we were... Cover our hydro bills. Yeah, we were trying to get our, you know, pay insurance and a little bit of gas, but nothing you would be able to pay rent off of, nothing you'd be able to really, maybe just grocery money.

Gas money, we call that. Yeah. And then we were told one day, after months of having to sit through shows with guest co-hosts, even though there's two of us here, we're both, now I'm in Radio Y108. We have our own show on Sirius as well.

Well, we're getting to that. More than qualified enough to co-host a show, but we get these guest co-hosts with profiles that are lesser than ours. Good for the brand, but again, like, instead of having guests, which there's nothing wrong with, we'd have guest co-hosts in. Yeah, that's weird.

It was very strange, very passive-aggressive move to do to people that have worked for you for so long. But we were told that there would be no more money for us to get paid. So you can continue

doing the show, but we won't pay you. Or Todd wouldn't pay us. So we're not going to pay you, but if you want to, he still would let you do the job for free. If you want to work for free,

you can stay, but we're not going to. Or come in whenever you want or whatever. Yeah. Okay, man. So, okay, how long ago did this all come to a... We basically were given that... We were asked to stay for a few months during the transition, but we can't pay you.

And then once we heard that, we left. So I don't remember. Probably the last day was like a year and a half ago, maybe two years. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Now, you guys didn't burn any bridges at SiriusXM

because you're on SiriusXM now. Well, we had a show almost immediately after called Laugh League where we basically hosted the channel on Sundays. Yeah. So that probably lasted eight or nine months. And then our boss named Joe Thistle, he's always kind of had our back. And he, we kind of worked together coming up with the idea of this hour long show called

The Dumb Show, which is also our podcast. The Dumb Show. Yeah. So we'd already been doing the podcast. We had about 30 episodes up till then. And so we just thought of bringing that sort of format to Sirius. So if I want to

hear it live on SiriusXM, when do I tune in to hear the dumb show? Wednesdays, 8pm. Okay, now, do you ever bump into Shapiro anymore? It would be awkward? We still work in the same building. We cross paths a lot.

In this industry, professionalism is key, and a lot of it, like, normally, I wouldn't even talk about any of this, but I feel like, personally, you know, in this industry, it's good to not say a lot, I find. I think it's like you got to keep a lot to your chest when you're in radio.

It's a small business. You're going to bump into people again, but also i think the show is important a lot of people and uh i think a lot of people work really hard on it definitely sucks because like jay said there was a sweet spot there where we were doing something really cool and i like i would put it up against any other show for sure happening in Canada, definitely, for kind of the unique atmosphere that we created. So I wish we could have continued that and just had everyone kind of be happy and work together. Because I think we could have gotten better. So it's definitely kind of unfortunate in that sense.

Yeah, I know. Yeah, you know, money changes everything. Is that a Cyndi Lauper song? I think it's a cover song. She might not have written it. I don't think she wrote that one. I now just remembered something. So, you know, I write about radio a lot

and there's not a lot of places writing about radio. No, and thank you for doing that because it keeps a lot of people relevant, I think. And because I write about radio, somebody sent me a note to say, and this is before you guys left the Todd Shapiro show, and the note was something about how Anna stormed off or something. Yeah. So what happened there?

Anna Saison, am I saying right? Anna Saison. And I still, like I said, well, she's beautiful, but she's also talented. Remember, she's more than just beautiful. No, she added a good kind of, she added an interesting part to the show for sure. She's a sweetheart too. I mean, she had me at the impressive face when I told her I'd bike 14 kilometers

to get to the studio. You have to remember that. So already forever now, she's got this part of my heart where she made me feel like I just ran a marathon well that's the thing with anna she would make everyone feel special do you know what i mean like it wasn't just me no it's not everyone feels like that around anna she makes you feel special in this beautiful way that helped i think our guests open up and help the sponsors okay why did she storm off why did i get these notes i didn't

actually investigate. Because I can't follow up on every lead I get or whatever. But I was naturally curious. I can't remember what happened. Why did Anna storm off? Like something offended her on the show? We started with, I'd say, like D-level. J-8 or underpants. On Anna.

But that wasn't why she stormed off. It was all consensual and it was on video. It was edible underwear, right? No, it wasn't. It was all Lycra, to be honest with you. I hope it was consensual. It was all consensual and it was on video. It was edible underwear, right? No, it wasn't. It was all Lycra, to be honest with you. I hope it was consensual. It was the least edible underwear possible. It's still in there, I believe.

Listen, everyone basically left for the same reason. We had a lot of promises, and then bigger brands showed up, and people were asking for a little bit of money. And we're getting a little bit of money, but there was a lot of promises. I think the promises outcovered what was actually happening. And anytime it came time, anytime we kind of put up our end of the bargain,

I think for Anna, she just wanted to get paid. Anna just wanted to make some money at the end of the day. It sounds like all, yeah, I know it's a legitimate beef. And, you know, like I've met Todd. In fact, the only small world thing is that this grilled cheese challenge

where I'm slinging the beers on Saturday for Great Lakes, the guest judge, not this year, but the previous two years, the guest judge was Todd Shapiro. There you go. Maybe you'll see him this week. No, they replaced him with a guy from Jazz FM.

The jazz guy. They're trying to culture it up a guy from Jazz FM. Oh, the jazz guy. Well, you know. They're trying to culture it up a bit, you know. But okay, so Todd, his loss, I'm going to just say that. I'm just saying that as me. I just thought you guys were a great part of the show, and I thought it was humming along, and it's too bad. But he still has the show.

The show's still there. Because it's the Todd Shapiro show, and I guess, yeah. And I guess he's still driving the Rolls Royce from all these sponsors that he kept all the money from I don't know how much like listen we did get paid a bit it was just there was a lot of promises made and a lot of like just stick with this what's like Charlie Brown kicking the football

again you can only you know run at that football so many times you guys end up metaphor work yeah you Lucy and the football? And again, I believe, in my opinion, there was an ego thing. We had different conversations on the show. Yeah, you've got to play more, Roddy, I would say. Yeah, we had a conversation on the show where we'd have like six interviews, and some of them were kind of questionable bookings.

And the conversation became like, listen, we need to book less interviews and we should be focusing a little more on the team just as a uh like listen if we're all a certain level of entertainer and that's not much let's say any of us are gigantic canadian entertainers but if we're going to have a guest that is have less status than us and also not as entertaining, then maybe we should not book that person and spend time on the team. And there was times where I was told that, well, the interviews are all about me and the guest, and the more interviews we do, the more the show's about me

as opposed to you guys, which is the kind of word I got. I was like, well, the show is your show. It's your name. We're all here for you to make the show better. We don't have to be like this. We're all trying to make this show better. No one was trying to take the name of the show. No one was pushing for it to be

the Todd, Jay, and Roddy show or the Todd, Anna, and Jeff show. We just wanted to make that show the best it could be. Just like the Howard Stern show following that model right I wonder how much of this comes from the fact that he was a guy on the Dean Blundell show right like I always wonder like maybe all

these years of being a guy on the Dean Blundell show within now my name now it's my name it's about me maybe there's a bit of that kind of like compensation there's nothing wrong we had nothing. I wasn't ever against the name of the show. It could have been the Todd Shapiro show. If we had done the show for 20 years

it never would have asked to change the name. Yeah, we just wanted the show to be good. I'm going to rename this show the Toronto Mike and Roddy and Jay. Alright, that's okay. Thank you for your... First, I thought you were going to be super guarded,

but you guys were pretty honest. I think that was all very fair. You're not going to be in any trouble now. I know he's not going to go talk to your bosses and be upset when he hears this. You know regrets, right? No, listen. It is what it is.

I haven't said anything dishonest. I think this is one of those things that is just a reality of the business we're in in this day and age. And you've got to be careful, I think, also, who you're working with, too. Plus, we're moved past it. I don't care anymore.

You know what I mean? 18 months is a long time since that. Yeah, it is what it is, right? I get to do some great work on Canada Talks now across the dial. I do some fill-in stuff.

So what are you doing on, you do some fill-in work on Canada Talks? I do fill-in work with Alison Doran on a show called The Breakdown. Okay, what happened with, you're going to get hit

pretty good here today, Jay, because what happened to Ward Anderson? Oh, that, I don't know. Because you know, here's the thing. So the first 19 episodes of Toronto Mic'd

were actually recorded in the Humble and Fred studio. Yeah. There was only one other group couplet, I'd say, that was using the studio at the same time. Only one other. And it was Ward and Al. Okay. So Ward and Al were a podcast only recording at a Humble and Fred studio when I was doing my first 19 before I built this illustrious, this wonderful studio you're in right now. So I kind of was like, we'd kind of like take turns using the studio kind of thing.

Ward and Elle, Alison Doerr, brother, sorry, sister of John Doerr, of course, and Ward Anderson. And then they got the gig on SiriusXM and suddenly Ward's not on the show anymore. Yeah.

You know what? I don't really know. Tough one, eh? I don't know what happened there. I know all these things. You're here to answer all my questions. But Ward and Al is no more. Now it's just an Alison Dorr show.

Yeah, the breakdown with Alison Dorr. It's a great show. She's very talented. Ward's a great comedian as well. So I don't know where he's ended up or what happened there, but Al's got that spot covered, and she's got a lot of it. And now you're the new Ward. I don't know if I'm the new Ward.

I'm there a couple weeks out of the month, I guess. Listen, I'd love to do that show more often, I guess permanently. And that's on Talks. Yeah, 167, 2 to 5. Right, because your show, The Dumb Show, is on laughs. Yeah. Because it's a tube there at Bass, right? And that, again, is just a testament to, I think, how great

Allison is as a host and as a person to kind of take me on on that show. How about this? We'll get to this. No, it's awesome. I'm so glad you have this opportunity.

Wink at me if you'll tell me after the recording what happened with Warren Anderson. Because I understand, of course, you don't want to burn bridges or whatever. But something went down there because I don't think he wanted to leave the show. I don't know. I don't know.

Exactly. Do you know, Roddy? You wink at me if you're going to tell me after. Listen, this is radio. People get cut all the time. We've seen this year specifically so many people kind of leave and lose their jobs. Well, that's a good segue for my next topic. So I'm going to be soon.

I can't wait to play some of these Roddy jams. They're great. And talk a bit more about the dumb show. But first I got a question. So you told us you were at Y108 today. Yes. Because you did the morning show?

I did the morning show of Y108. What time did you wake up to do that? 4 a.m. is not a natural time for any human being to wake up. Is that why you're dozing off right now?

It's tough. It is. I'm telling you, 4 a.m. Well, that's why you had the beer because to you, this is like 6 p.m. or something. Yeah, we're probably around like noon. We started this at 11.30, I'm telling you, 4 a.m. Oh, that's why you had the beer, because to you, this is like 6 p.m. or something. Yeah, we're probably around like noon, or we started this at 11.30, I'd say.

And yeah, this is noon for me. No, it's way past noon for you. Happy hour. Yeah, this is happy hour for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, when Mike Richards, he cracked open a beer once after doing the TSN 1050 morning show, and it was 9 a.m.

He cracked open his beer, and he's like, and I looked at him, and then he's like, you know, this is lunchtime for me. Yeah. It's a whole different thing. It's a different ballgame. Y-108. Very cool.

So when's your normal shifts on Y-108? Weekends, so 12 to 6 p.m. every Saturday. I'm on there, and I'm the swing guy, so I'm a lot of fill-in here and there as well, doing a ton of that. And this week I was filling in for Shauna, who was on vacation, and me and Chrissy over there have been having a good time on good old Hamilton Radio.

Well, that's great exposure. Like, that's a big station. They'd be doing some morning show time. That's big exposure. A lot of fun. And they're a great group of people over there, too. So a lot of great people over at Chorus. Happy to be there.

No, I'm so glad for you. But I have to ask a question, which is recently Ben McVie was fired. Now Ben McVie, for those who are listening who don't know the name Ben McVie, he's the Ben from Ben and Carrie. Now Carrie sadly, Carrie's passed away sadly. He passed away of cancer trag tragically, in 2017.

Which is a shame. And I always remember the Jack 92.5 ad where they come out of the egg. So this egg, I think it's Born to be Wild is being played by Steppenwolf. And these two men come out of a big, giant egg. Like, they're hatched from an egg. Yeah. And that's Ben and Kerry. Yeah.

But Ben McVie, sorry, please, I'm sorry. What is the woman's name who was Ben's co-host? Shauna Whalen. Okay, so Shauna and Ben were doing mornings at Y108 until very, very recently.

Yes. So, yeah, there was a, the word is, there was a dismissal took place, and I guess the company policy and the company lies due to privacy reasons. We're not really able to disclose what happened there. That's fair. So for reasons we won't disclose on this program,

Ben was relieved of his duties. Yes. So he's no longer on Y108. That's from my understanding. Again, we don't get a full... I do know that he left. I believe, in my opinion, it was dismissal. But yeah, that's about as much as I can... He was there a long time, right?

Like 19 years? 17 years, I believe. Because it was Ben and Kerry for a long time. And then it was Ben. years, I believe. Because it was Ben and Carrie for a long time. Yeah, so Ben. Okay. So, Ben McVie no longer on Y108, but I guess now the show is Shauna by herself?

Shauna and Chris. Ben, Shauna, and Chris. Chris is a really talented producer who's also great on the mic. He's really quick, really great. He reminds me a lot of Todd when Todd was younger,

I guess, on that Dean Lindell show. Not when he was re-Todd. No, he's re-Todd, but when he's later in his career. Who gave him the name re-Todd? Was that Humble Howard? I think that was Humble Howard. Terrible, terrible. Can I say that? One of Toronto Radio's all-time worst nicknames. You know, at the time I think you rumor. I think that was Humble Howard. That was Humble. Terrible, terrible. Can I say one of the Toronto Radio's all-time worst nicknames?

You know, at the time, I think you could kind of say that word. Not that you can't. Late, wasn't it late 90s? Like, I feel like we were, even late, okay, Retod was okay

in the late 90s. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're right. I think you could say, like, I don't think you could say the full word, but you could call people a variation of it.

Because Bob Ouellette got Bingo Bob. I think that was what Howard anointed him, and that still kind of sticks. But Bingo Bob is kind of innocent and fun. And Danger Boy, of course, that was Jason Barr. He worked as a Scottish accent. You just got to be careful around Humble. If he names you something, it's going to stick.

Yeah, I know. You're right. Be nice to Humble. Is he the one who told you that Mr. Roti should be Brody? Was that his idea? He called me a swarthy individual. Swarthy? That means Middle Eastern.

But you're Italian, right? Yeah, I'm very Italian. Okay, Mediterranean. It could be swarthy. Yeah, I took it as a compliment. He also called himself swarthy at the time. Right, because I was there that day. Yes.

I was guest Freddie. Was I guest Freddie? You were great, by the way. How come I've never been much like you who worked for free? That's the only way I could work in radio is for free. You know, even working in radio, you're not going to get much better than that. You're going full time. It's not a great thing.

So I need to focus on Roddy for a moment. But Jay, I need to tell you that's great that you're on Y108 and SiriusXM. Yes. And I hope that this... You mentioned Jason Barr off the top, but I always think of Biggs and Barr. Biggs and Barr are two guys who were let go from their terrestrial radio show and started a podcast.

And they were only a podcast, Biggs and Barr, until Hits FM hired them to be the morning show. Is that sort of the model that inspired? I know you do have a SiriusXM show, but maybe there's more money possibly on a... If you and Roddy were like a show on terrestrial radio, maybe. I'm just thinking off the top of my head. That's something we'd look into.

We got the SiriusXM thing down pat now, which took a few months. We also have The Dumb Show is a podcast as well. We do from sketch. We put the SiriusXM thing down pat now, which took a few months. We also have The Dumb Show. It's a podcast as well. We do different skits. We put out a comedy album. We're exploring different revenue streams. We want to put out great content and make a name for ourselves

and build up a great library of work so we can take it anywhere. I wish you good luck. Now I need to hear Roddy's voice again. I think he went for a nap and now he's awake again. We headed the Jay show for a while there. Jay, are you sweating?

Were you in the hot seat there? That was tough, eh? Because I did the Shapiro stuff. There was Ben McVie stuff. I think I threw in a little Anna stuff. You look like you just took it, man. That was an interesting conversation with Toronto Mike.

But you know what? To be honest with you, I really appreciate what you do on this show because I think for years, I would read your blog before I even got into radio. Cool. And when I wanted to get into radio, I'd read about your blog, listen to these podcasts, and it's important work that a show like

this exists for us radio guys out here getting paid in beers and pizzas and stuff to keep a name in it. Somebody needs to archive these stories. If no one else is doing it, I'm going to freaking in it. Somebody needs to archive these stories. If no one else is doing it, I'm going to freaking do it. I need to know what's going down in the Todd Shapiro show. There's a lot of people listening now who listen to Dean Blundell's show

and Humble and Fred on CFNY and know Todd Shapiro. And he's been on this show. And I need to know what's going on. I need to know what's going on with Ben from Ben and Kerry. That was a great ad for 92.5 Jack FM. It was a fantastic ad. And what a commercial that was.

Roddy. Hi. Rebel Emergency is no more, but you're doing some solo work. So which jam, can I play Ridden in Stone first? Sure. And then come back to the new single that comes out next week.

So let me play a bit of this here on SoundCloud. If this will click play bear with me something should play soon i got a spinning uh wheel here oh After all, there's a happy end Didn't mean to make you cry Easier lost than won Some say love never dies Oh my, oh my, oh my love Wipe the tears from your eyes It's not written in stone

The perfect words between the lines They won't bring you home They can't turn back time Looked under every stone Roddy, this is a good song. Thank you. I don't mean that so surprised. Did you guys have banjo in there? What am I hearing?

There's banjo, yeah. There's banjo. But it sounds like what you'd hear from maybe what's the guy's name from Maroon 5? Adam Levine. You're aoon 5? Adam Levine. You're a bit of an Adam Levine. I've been told that.

Someone also said Chris Cornell solo kind of stuff for this tune. So Roddy Colmer, this is the first single from the new, what's the new album called? Afterglow. Afterglow. Yeah.

And I guess you buy this from iTunes and Google Play Music and all these usual spots. Yeah, on Spotify and Apple Music anyways. I like the hook. Jay, do you like this? It's a beautiful song. It's way better than you thought, right? You didn't expect a single. this it's a beautiful song it's way better than you thought right like you didn't expect a single like this is a single this would not be able to place on i don't know 104.5 or 99.9 or whatever

he played anywhere on the radio in an elevator during lovemaking during pizza making have you ever played this song during lovemaking jay be honest be honest have i played this not during lovemaking have you ever banged To any of my music Sunriser Have you Oh yeah Sunriser Rebel Emergency Solo efforts don't count

But we need your phone We'll hold solo efforts as well One time I went to this This girl invited me To this house I think her family Was selling it So it was an empty house

And I get there And there's candles lit And my album playing That's funny And then yeah She just took advantage of me wow listening to my own album it's a little weird apologize for the buffering there okay roddy colmer the cover here has you smoking a sparkler that's got to be dangerous well yeah

i could have gotten sparks in my eye flamer on the bottom do not try this at home i just thought it would look cool in a photo just with the sparkles. I don't know if it worked or not. I don't know if I've ever seen you without a hat on. This is the first, this picture is the first time I think I've seen you without a hat on.

No, I know, yeah. Usually I go, I usually hat it. So you're not bald. No. Yeah, yeah. That's a great single. Beautiful.

Thank you. And you have a new single. When does. And you have a new single. When does the new single... The new single's out Friday. It's a duet with this artist named Neffy, who is one of my favorite artists in the city. She's a young singer-songwriter. And I got lucky.

I met her and we kind of became friends and started writing together. Feffy? Neffy. Neffy. Yeah, N-E-F and started writing together. Feffy? Neffy. Neffy. Yeah, N-E-F-F-E. Neffymusic.com. All right, let's start this sucker up and then we'll hear more about it.

Yeah. I'll never change my mind I'll never leave your side Won't take you for granted I'll always be kind I'll never waste your time. I never wanted to push you away. You could have fooled me with the things that you say. All I ever wanted was to make it to forever.

Feels like forever. End it today. I hear the Chris Cornell in this song. So I hear the Chris Cornell. Yeah. Very good. And where did you record this? My friend Devin Lohied, he was in a band called Hey Ocean and Smashing Satellites.

He just had a home studio, like the same room as this. Did you hit your head on the ceiling? Yeah. same room as this and did you hit your head on the ceiling so yeah I record my whole album pretty much at his house after she sang this verse initially yeah I had to go back and rerecord my vocal like oh man her vocal was too strong yeah I had to go back just to try to keep up with her. Nice. She's fantastic.

And you're touring? I have a show on Saturday at the Rivoli in Toronto. That's all I have planned so far. This Saturday? Yeah. This is Wednesday, and I'm going to put this up. So I'll put it up today, of course, 15 minutes after we take our photo together on the front lawn. Sweet.

So I'll put it up today, of course, 15 minutes after we take our photo together on the front lawn. Sweet. So this Saturday. So after you buy your Great Lakes beer at the Grilled Cheese Challenge and heavily tip me, then you go to the Rivoli and you listen to Roddy Comer. Yeah, the mix on this was done by my friend Matt Wagner, who passed away like last month, actually. But this was like his favorite tune on the the album that adds a little weight to the song seriously

that's like when an artist dies young that's when the price goes up yeah unfortunately if I might say so this is a beautiful song I don't want to talk over it

but Roddy's got another song he hasn't released yet that is going to be a huge hit said, this is a beautiful song. I don't want to talk over it. But Roddy's got another song. It hasn't released yet. I think it's going to be a huge hit for him. I think it's going to be a beautiful song. What's it called? So when I hear it, I know that Jay told me. Yes, I do.

Yeah. I love this tune. I love all the songs he has, but I'm really excited for the world to get more of the music from this album. It's amazing. It sounds big. This sounds big leagues, man. Yeah, it's sounds big. This sounds big leagues, man. Yeah, it's very big. This is big leagues.

It's beautiful. Yeah, that song's I'm putting out in August, I think. The one Jay likes. Roddy's an artist, I think, who needs to... He needs more recognition for what he does I think it'll happen real soon he's one of the most talented guys

I've ever met so is it tough to balance your musical life with your dumb show? capital D Dumb it's interesting I guess because the music a lot of it is like I think especially fans of the dumb show they think I'm going to put out some silly songs or something.

But the songs are super serious. Yeah, I was going to say this. That's not weird. I think it's funny about the music. So I'm happy that I get to use kind of both parts of my brain, because with Jay, we're just as silly as we can be, pretty much. Just trying to make each other laugh all day. But then I can kind of try to put out this music that hopefully will make people feel something. Now, before people get excited, this is not Roddy Comer.

No, I wish I wrote this song. Jay, what am I listening to right now? This is the Rolling Stones. My favorite song of all time. It's Tumbling Dice. Beautiful tune. If you're a Scorsese fan, you've definitely

recognized this song from some great movies. He loves the Rolling Stones. It's just great music. He did that concert doc, too. What's it called? It was really good. Something with a light?

Shine a Light. Listen, a light? Shine a light. Shine a light. Shine a light. Listen, the Stones are an amazing band. The opportunity on the breakdown to interview a woman by the name

of Tara Stubbins who used to be the assistant for the Rolling Stones and the story she told me about what she had to go through with these guys

just blew my mind forever. Like, if you were to have, say you were to get Mick Jagger to come to Toronto Mike Studios and do the Toronto Mike show. He might fit under the ceiling. He might fit under the ceiling, but one of the requirements he has, according to her, is every room he enters has to have one of those misty oil infusers. Luckily, I already have one in every room.

I noticed them. He has to walk into mist, basically. He won't walk into a room unless it has a going infuser. My kids will have the spray bottle, just spray before he enters. You have to do it. He's earned the right to be misted. All the time? Yeah.

He also has, she told us about this, my favorite. When he stays in a hotel, he has his team go there a month before to paint all the rooms and walls beige, a particular type of beige that she was not able to disclose to me. Wow. She couldn't tell me what beige it was, but it's a beige. So I just think of the classic song, Paint It Black. Yep.

I see a red door, and I want to paint it beige. It's essentially what he was singing about. And it's so extreme that there was a time in India. He stayed at this beautiful hotel, five star. The room he had was the presidential suite, and the wall was painted in gold leaf. Okay? This is like gold, literally gold paint. He had his handyman go in there, take the gold down, and paint that wall also beige.

Wow. He needs oil infusers and beige. That's just how you're supposed to live your life. Fearless self-love, my friend. Wow. Practice it. This is great, though. You know, Jay, it's funny that you tell that story about Mick has to go into the mist.

Yeah. He's got to do it. So he has to go into the mist. And we're about to play Roddy's jam. Good segue. I was pausing for applause that never came. Now, I shall repeat. Okay, so.

See, this is why I'm not on real radio, because my timing was off a bit. So Mick Jagger had to walk into the mist. You don't know this song, Jerry? No. Really? Because it wasn't a hit, right? It's not a hit. We were born before the wind. He only knows Brown Eyed Girls.

Bob Seger? No, man. All so younger than the sun. Girls. Bob Seger? No, man. It's Bob Seger. Let's give him clues until he gets it. Johnny Cocker? Johnny Cocker. That's the wrong guy.

That's the wrong guy. No, if it doesn't fit, you must have quit. He's named after a type of automobile. John Belushi. What kind of car is that? Tony Honda. Tony Honda. Tony Honda and the pips.

Roddy Kulmer. tell us why you love Van Morrison's Into the Mystic I don't know it just has that it just has like a magical feel and I never get tired

of the song even though I heard it a million times and this is from Moondance right? yeah which is I feel

a perfect album there's only there's a few perfect albums that have Moon Dance, right? Yeah, which is, I feel, a perfect album. There's a few perfect albums that have not one second of wasted time or not one bad note or bad word or bad idea, and this is one of them. Can you name any others? I would put Abbey Road on there. The Strokes' first album, I would say. Soundgarden, Super Unknown. road on there um the strokes first album i would say um sound garden super unknown post post post malone beer bong and oh my god her love's post malone that's a great album this new album's great she plays so much post malone yeah that the last album he did mike i'm

telling you that's good music. Yeah, really good. That's like the toughest question ever, though. What's your favorite song of all time? It's hard. It can change depending on your mood, the time of day. I know, and I ask it often, so people hate me. You know what I don't like about this song? That one instrument. I don't know what it is.

It sounds like the startup tone to the old Windows 98. Do you hear that? Man, don't ruin the song for me. Yeah, he'll never be able to unhear that. Blame Microsoft for ruining the song for you. Yeah, this song came out first. They took that tone. Bill Gates' problem, not mine.

Bill Gates' problem, not mine. So, Jay, now you appreciate my into the mist joke? I do. It's good. It's great. It's a good segue. You know what? You do the kickoff.

You kick off the jams, Mike. There's a magazine in Toronto. I looked at it last month. I think it's called Shape. Is it in Shape? Shape Magazine? Muscly people are on the cover. Sharper Shape.

It's a Toronto-based magazine. And last month's cover, it said, we kick out the jams. And I was like, I wonder if they listen to this show. Because I know that's not something. MC5. It's MC5. We're all stealing it from the same guy. I know we're stealing it from the same guy, but I really think you brought that back.

I think so, too. You got the jams a long time. And I think you brought it back. And I saw it at the cover of the magazine. I was like, I wonder if there's a Toronto Mike listener there. And that. Everyone should be a Toronto Mike listener. And everybody should tune in to The Dumb Show.

Yep. Wednesday, 8 p.m. There's also a podcast. It's different. How long is The Dumb Show? Onem. There's also a podcast. It's different. How long is the dumb show? An hour. One hour. Podcast's a little shorter.

It's a little different. It's kind of a different format. We do sketch and a lot of silliness. And you can listen anytime, any episode. They're kind of evergreen. Yeah. We've been doing a lot of music.

We do this segment called Inside the Music. Yeah. Where this host, it's kind of like the James Lipton thing. This host is named Tarquin Larkwin. And he, the most recent one I think was Crash Test Dummies.

We kind of go into the studio with them and go behind the scenes of them recording that mm-mm-mm song. It's a silly podcast. We have a lot of fun. Sketch comedy. Yeah. And the show's a little different and it's Wednesday

8 p.m. Canada Labs. The best stand-up comedy ever. Really, we pick the best stuff and we also have a great time.

Can I plug? No, go nuts. One other thing. I have a website called songsforyou.ca. Songsforyou.ca. Basically, say, for example,

it's your wife's birthday. You tell me all the information about your wife, and then I'll write a song for you to give as a gift. Do it for anniversaries, weddings, for anything. And if you need any bottles of urine

transported, you can still call Jason. Yeah. Yeah, I can tell you a lot about urine bottles. What happens to them in the sun will change your life. Oh, I don't. No, please. I don't want to know.

I don't need to know more than that. Listen, Roddy, I don't know who to bill first. You guys are equals to me. Roddy and Jay. Jay and Roddy. My last name's Brody. Brody. It should be Brody and Comer, right?

BC. I'm the elder. You are the elder. And my real last name is R. It goes down the list. So the only thing we should do is just say my name that's the fair thing just don't even mention Roddy at all and that that

brings us to the end of our 344th show Wow like I said you're the meat in the Vic router Stephen Brunt sandwich. Apologies to both of those fine gentlemen. People needed a palate cleanser between those two epic jam-kicking. We're like the crackers. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike.

So, Jay, what is your Twitter account? At the Jay Brody. Because Jay Brody was taken. Whoever the original Jay Brody is, yes. Because J Brody was taken. Whoever the original J Brody is, yes. The J Brody for you. And Roddy, are you on Twitter? Yeah, I'm at Roddy Colmer. And then I have a website, RoddyColmerMusic.com.

It has all the links to all my stuff. And Colmer is C-O-L-M-E-R. That's right. You can also find me on DougFord.com. Oh, no. Doug Ford. No, don't go there.com. Oh, no. Doug Ford. No, don't go there. No, no, no.

Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery are at Great Lakes Beer. Propertyinthe6.com is at Raptor's Devotee. Paytm is at Paytm Canada. And Camp Turnasol is at Camp Turnasol. See you tomorrow with Stephen Brunt Kicking out the jams And I'll play this guitar Just the best that I can Maybe I'm not

And maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up Rosy and gray. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the smell of snow warms me today.