Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jay Onrait: Toronto Mike'd #332

Episode Date: May 4, 2018

Mike chats with TSN's Jay Onrait about a bunch of stuff before he kicks out the jams.

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Download the app today from paytm.ca. And our newest sponsor, Camp Tournesusole the leading french summer camp provider in ontario i'm mike from torontomike.com and joining me is tsn's jay on right yes we did it and welcome back we're kicking out the jams. I'm so pumped about this. I thought, what's the most epic piece of music I could play? So good. Takes me back to my childhood. You and I are the same age.

Yes. What year were you born? 74. Oh, wow. We were born the exact same year. Yeah. It's amazing because I look 10 years younger than you. You do. You do look better than I do, I have to say. And you look 10 feet taller than me. That's a nice thing. I'm only playing this because like every other broadcaster recording today, I'm sure you as well with Dan, it's May the 4th. So you go May the 4th. That's right.

It's May the 4th. I totally forgot about that. Well, I'm here to remind you. I'm still thinking about 420. And I didn't think about May the 4th. You know what? Speaking of Dan. Yeah.

So we've been talking a bit. We've been direct messaging. And you've been wondering if you could get Dan on. And I was like, there's no chance. He will make the trek all the way from Orono down here. And as a matter of fact, last night I was talking to Dan. We were doing our show, SportsCenter with Jay and Dan, presented by Tim Hortons.

You're back. Because last I heard you were in the States. No, we're back big time now. And it's going great. But Dan said, I mentioned i was coming to kick out the jams with you and dan said all right uh give my info tell him i'll come down i'll do it one afternoon he said which i think would work for you maybe oh yeah oh yeah for sure uh i'm like super flex right now that's a whole other you're gonna love it so this is great because i feel i

have a to be honest i feel a rapport with you. Like we're pals. Yeah, we're friends. I feel like there's nothing with Dan and I. I don't think we've ever communicated. I don't know if Dan, no one ever truly knows Dan. Not even Dan himself. He's the unknowable. He's an enigma.

He's an enigma wrapped in a riddle. I have been really enjoying the Toronto Mike podcast. I just want to say I loved, I were talking about Ralph Ben-Murky. I haven't gotten a chance to listen to that one yet. Ralph married Courtney Pasternak, who I worked with at A-Channel Winnipeg 20 years ago. I mean, Courtney and I started that station with some other good friends,

and we didn't create it. We went to work at it first. And man, that was a crazy time. And so anyway, that was cool. And then the Steve Anthony one. Yeah, the second one, right? The one he recorded just before he tells us that he's leaving CP24 Breakfast, but didn't even give me a hint of that.

Oh, no, wait. I actually went back and listened to the first one because once he made that announcement and I saw that he was on your podcast, see, I didn't know everything about Steve. He kicked out the jams, too. Right, I got to listen to that one. I didn't know everything that I thought I knew about Steve.

Growing up out West, I didn't realize Steve was on Breakfast Television while he was hosting Much Music. I only saw the Much Music. We didn't get City TV Toronto. Of course, right. So I was blown away that he had that schedule while he was, by his own admittance, having a pretty good time at that point in his life. I have no idea how he pulled that off, to be perfectly honest. That's incredible. That man has a lot of energy. Yeah. And what was once fueled by something else is now fueled by Coke Zero.

Right. Right. And by the way, the first visit, so that, I think it's like, I remember that number. It was like one, two, three, some easy to remember number. But that first visit by Steve Anthony, he had his large coffee with five complete packets of sweetener in it. And he had me sip it. And I almost, like, I almost, I couldn't record.

It was just too much. much well you know if that sweetener stuff you can't even do one packet of the no no it's out of control i'm i'm a black coffee guy now oh me too now i can't go back look at us i can't go well look at us and you know what's funny i'm only a recent converter i recently converted to black coffee and it's all i drink now but now i look down upon people like someone's getting a double double and i like put up my nose and i snicker they're like that's not coffee but meanwhile like for 40 plus years when did i start drinking coffee i gotta do better math age 20 let's say 25 for 25 years yeah that's right i'm like i haven't been drinking coffee for 40 years for 25 years i would put like some milk and sugar in it or whatever uh and now i'm like one of those guys

those annoying people. Oh, you've got to drink your coffee black. Once you go black, you truly can never go back. I've heard this. I was going to do, by the way, you've been spirited a rant against Disney. When I was playing the Star Wars theme for May the 4th, I was going to go off on

Disney. I'm upset Disney owns too many things. How old is your child? She will be three this month. Just like I wasn't drinking coffee at three. Your daughter's not going to Infinity War at three. Oh, big time. I'm making her go. She'll go and she'll like it.

No, remember, because I can relate. I have a four-year-old and yeah, not Marvel movie yet, but Disney owns all that. Yep. They own all the Star Wars stuff. That's correct. They own all the Pixar stuff.

That's correct. They own the Fox, like Simpsons. Like they own all the Fox stuff. They just bought all that. Now, I'm not sure if that's fully been approved, but it will. It will. It will go through.

It will go through. And of course, this is the shocker to everybody. Disney owns all the Disney stuff. Yes, that's right. And they own 33% of tsn too this is where i'm going thank you for i was gonna ask you it's only a matter of time so they own 33 is that because they own espn correct how does this work exactly and 33 percent is the max they can own as a foreign uh entity interesting yeah Yeah. And funny you should bring them up, and funny you should bring up Infinity War, because we just shot a little promo for Avengers Infinity War.

I think it aired last week, and it was one of those fake interview things where they give you Robert Downey Jr. Weird Al used to do this. Remember? Right. Remember Weird Al? Exactly. Yeah.

Exactly. The thing that Weird Al used to do. Can I? Remember Weird Al? Exactly. Exactly. The thing that Weird Al used to do. Can I tell you a quick story on this? So, like yourself, I was a much music guy. And I remember he would take over much music for Al Music, they called it. And it was amazing. I forgot. He would interview people.

It was gold. It was gold. Oh, yeah. And then later, I learned he was doing the same thing on MTV, but they would call it an Al TV. For some reason reason that was like disappointing to me like i thought this was like a owl taking over much music like an exclusive canada thing i was all like but it's just he was just like repurposing stuff he was already doing

on mtv he was probably doing it in europe he was probably doing in south america i liked it when i was an innocent young man and like i just i never had these thoughts now now because i've talked to people like you all the time i'm so cynical like i now i see like oh i see all the like oh there's innocent young man. And like, I just, I never had these thoughts. Now, now, because I've talked to people like you all the time, I'm so cynical. Like, now I see like, I see all the like,

oh, there's the hidden agenda or the not so hidden agenda. And it's so cynical. People put sweetener in their coffees. Nothing's pure anymore, Mike.

No, just, I think what was pure were those mountains of white powder that Steve would dive into in the 80s. Well, that's speaking of innocence, you know, I'm watching him from the prairie.

He's like, God, he's got a ton of energy. Good for him. And so on, because, you know, it's real talk, right? So, and that's why you get nervous coming over here. You don't know what's coming. But Steve, I asked him about the twitch. So, I don't know if you remember. He had like a twitch and he's been, he's actually now been medicated.

It's like he had a... I don't know what that is, OCD or Tourette's. I'm not a doctor. But he had an actual twitch thing that I always saw it as energy, but it was like a Steve Anthony thing. And now he's got it medicated under control. Yes, now he's all medicated. I think the Coke Zero took care of it.

He is, yeah, he's a fascinating guy. I reached out to him. Well, I think I sent you took care of it. He is, yeah, he's a fascinating guy. I reached out to him. Well, I think I sent you both a public tweet saying how much I enjoyed that episode. Never heard back from Steve, so I don't know. He's also, much like Dan O'Toole, he is an enigma. He really is, yeah. He's the unknowable. And I can't believe I've been blessed with two visits from the man.

And I love those. I love, I mean, those are like my, because you talk about being from near Edmonton. Yeah. Athabacaska, say it again. Athabasca. Athabasca. I have Athabasca questions later. But like, so, and remember, I married an Edmonton girl.

Yes, you did. Yes, right. In the club or whatever. Yes. So, so you know much music. So in here, when you grow up here, like I did, 299 Queen, that's like the home of a bunch of stuff, but you don't differentiate between what's national and what's local.

So we have, I don't know, we'd have like City TV would be there and then the Much stuff. And it was all kind of one big blob to us. So Steve would bounce back and forth because you didn't get Toronto Rocks. Right. No, we didn't. That's the thing. Like I listened to some of your podcasts and I get some of the references, but a lot of stuff I don't get at all because I just didn't that's the thing like i listened to some of your podcasts and i get some of the references but a lot of stuff i don't get at all because i just didn't grow up here so you you miss

out on it yeah and all that stuff with steve was just fascinating even the corey hart stuff i didn't know about him being the boy in the box and and those lyrics are so bad but they make they at least make some more sense now you know know, just a smidge more sense. A smidge more sense. Do you know, although I've never spoken to Corey Hart directly, a close friend of Corey's was in contact with me to tell me, Corey loves my show, heard the Steve Anthony episode, because he lives in Barbados.

He's raising his kids in Barbados. What's he doing there? He just left the limelight to raise his children in tropical paradise. Did he make that much scratch children in like tropical paradise that much scratch back in the 80s that he's got a house in barbados how often for him how often do you hear the um i wear my sunglasses at night like as a movie trailer or you know it's all over and someone read yeah i guess so maybe yeah maybe the residuals of that song are enough to keep you living in barbados with a couple of kids i hope

so that's great well so he but i was told although like i said i never talked to cory directly but he was going to on some at some point when he was flying through toronto because i think he's managing patrick waugh's son so patrick waugh has a musician son and i think cory hart is managing his music career wow i brought it to sports for you. Well, that's... I had no idea about that. How did I not know that? That is amazing.

That's an amazing revelation. It is amazing, actually. Is it the same son who played goal for the Quebec Ramparts, Patrick's... Does Patrick have multiple sons? I believe so. I think he has two sons and a daughter, but don't quote me on that.

I'm not sure. We need Drager for that one. Gus. Gus. Gus. Also another good Toronto Mike podcast. I really enjoyed that one. And I now only refer to him as Gus, and sometimes he'll be on the screen in a bar or something,

and I'll be like, oh, there's Gus, and people look at me like weird. Like, oh, that's Darren Drager, dude. But that's such a Saskatchewan thing to have a nickname like that and then go back to Saskatchewan like once every couple of years and immediately be called that nickname by half the town. That's so Sasky. I'm in that club too because my first wife was from Saskatoon. Oh, I was just there. Great town. Oh, it's great. It really is. You know what Saskatoon is? Well, this is something. So we've had a lot of different musicians on our new show,

and we ask the same question, and comedians, and we ask the same question every time, Mike. What is the city or town in this country that you had never been to, but through touring and promoting, went to visit and went, you know what, I love this town. What's the first city that comes to mind? They all answer Saskatoon. Okay.

Because it just, the people are amazing. You know what? Because they're, you know what it is, the bar is so low. I think they're expecting nothing. Maybe.

And then they get something, so they're like excited, like, oh, there's something. It's very much like a Kingston or a London. It's a college town, about a couple of hundred thousand people. But it's aesthetically beautiful in the summer because it's got the river valley running right through. It's like a mini Edmonton that way. And it's got a lot of historical buildings and then

a very like modern feel. They have this brand new, beautiful, modern art museum there. The Remé Modern, I might be mispronouncing it. They've got great restaurants. It's an awesome town. We were just there. We also have a good time. That's the other thing. We almost always barely make the plane in the morning when we go to Saskatoon. We almost always just barely make it onto the plane because we have such a good time. And the people there kind of refuse to let you go to sleep at night and go back to your hotel. Is Saskatoon the Paris of the prairies? I think it might be.

Yeah, I think that's a legitimate claim. But instead of an Eiffel Tower, is there like a big statue of John Diefenbaker? Yeah, I know there's a Diefenbaker statue there somewhere. But I would say that the Bessborough Hotel, which is the Royal York of Saskatoon, that might be the Eiffel Tower of the city.

Gotcha. That's awesome. A lot of information that Toronto listeners just have no interest in. But you know what? I love Inside Baseball. I guess you listen to the show,

you know. And I love these fun facts like you working with Ralph Ben-Murgy's wife in Winnipeg. That's the shit I love. Courtney. And that was like, okay, so I'm in a hockey pool. I's the shit I love. Courtney.

I'm in a hockey pool. I host it. I'm really shitting the bed. My brother drafted a bunch of Bruins. Every time he drafted a Bruin, we booed the hell out of him because they were playing the Leafs. I said I'd rather pad my soul than pad my wallet. That was my line. Wow. He drafted Pasternak.

He drafted a bunch of Bruins. He is killing us. He's drafted Pasternak. He drafted a bunch of Bruins, and he is killing us. He's got Pasternak. And then I knew that Ben Merge's wife's name was Pasternak. Maybe they're related. I know he's from Europe or whatever, but maybe there's some connection somewhere. There might be some family connections. We've got to jump on Ancestry.ca. Oh, but they use that DNA to find killers and serial killers.

Oh, do they? Have you heard this? No, I didn't know that. The Golden State Killer. Do you know Patton Oswalt? Yes. Okay. His late wife, she passed away, sadly.

But she was working on a book about the Golden State Killer. In the 70s, for decades, there was uh serial killer and serial rapist in california that they couldn't figure out who it was but uh they they did just like like in the last i want to say the last two weeks they arrested this former cop because they they found one of his ancestors was using a site like that and they did a dna match they had dna from the scene and they did a match through this like like i don't know if it was Ancestry.com or something like that and they found enough

to know that someone related to this person is the killer. Wow. Like, this is how they cracked the case. amazing.

So, when you give your DNA to these places, make sure you're not a serial killer because it'll give you up. Man, I can't tell you.

But even now, family members too. Like, this serial killer was smart enough not to do it. Right. But he had like,

I don't know, a cousin or something. Someone else who did and they found him through that. That's interesting. But he had like, I don't know, a cousin or something. Someone else who did. Yes. And they found him through that. That's interesting. I really want to do... Have you ever done that?

No. I really want to do it. I really want to do it. I want to find out, you know, who I am. I'm pissed off at that commercial where the Ukrainian... No, the Irish guy and the Ukrainian guy... And if this is a sponsor, let me know. Is this a sponsor of the Jay and Dan show?

No. Okay. We'll continue then. I wish. Is this a sponsor of the Jay and Dan show? No. Okay, we'll continue then. I wish. I was pissed off at the commercial that we saw a hundred times I think it was during Hockey Day in Canada

or something. But like they weren't friends until the Ukrainian guy realized he had Irish blood. Right, right. And then the Irish guy was like, brother! And then they were like

the families were like so tight forevermore, these neighbors. But they were only like and I know the commercial is trying to say like it's an icebreaker of some sort. You know what I mean? But it just was like made me sad that if this guy doesn't find out he's got some Irish blood, these neighbors never talk. He's not in the club. Yes.

That is a little bit sad. I am fascinated that this all, I think it's mostly Mormon companies. Is that right? Like they send all this DNA to Salt Lake. Yeah. Because all the Mormons are in Utah. Yeah. So Salt Lake City.

And they've got a big database there of all our information. I love this. I love that kind of information. Me too. Me too. And I love the fact that Mormons have magic underwear. Yes, that's right. The magic undies. It's sort of like

camping underwear, right? Yeah, like you've seen in the old... Like I said, a window of sorts you can peel down in the back so you can do your business. For the sex. So that you can procreate many, many times. Oh my goodness. By the way, speaking of procreating many times, no, I'm just kidding.

This is not a segue except to say, I have to ask you, last time you were here, you had, not only did you have a driver, but you had a Bill Media PR guy sitting with you. Zach,

I have done some research and I've learned, following this experience in the Toronto Mike Studios, the low ceiling basement here, Zach flew the coop. Is he? He's gone.

He's left the company. And speaking of Edmonton, I believe he has moved there. His girlfriend got a job opportunity there. So he just followed her out, which I actually really love because he was like, I'm excited. It's a new opportunity. I'm like, great. You should be excited. You're going to have a great time in that city, man. But he was accompanying Jay Onright on a big Jay and Dan PR campaign.

Now he's off to Edmonton. E-Town. But there's no Jay Onright in Edmonton. No, I don't know what he's going to do there, but I don't think he did either. But that's what I liked about the move. He was going because she had this opportunity. And he was like, you know what? I'll just go. What the hell? I love that. So he's a young childless person. He is going because she had this opportunity and he was like, you know what? I'll just go.

What the hell? I love that. So he's a young childless person. He is a young childless man. Yeah, that changes everything.

Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, you can make those moves at that age. I was saying, I'm like anchored to the city. I'm literally anchored

to the city because of what I have but you luckily don't have but I do have two children. I share custody. Right, right.

So it's like, I can't go to Edmonton. You can't fly the but I do have two children. I share custody. Right, right. So it's like, I can't go to Edmonton. You can't fly the coop, so to speak. No. You just can't do it. I don't even want to move to like the beaches.

Right. Well, the beaches is far, you know. I gotta get like, yeah. If you live in the city, you know. Like if you don't grow, the people who grow up

in the beaches, they always want to return to the beaches, right? They want to raise their families in the beaches. The beaches is life to them. You're right. People who don't grow up in the beaches, they always want to return to the beaches, right? They want to raise their families in the beaches. The beaches is life to them. People who don't grow up in the beaches but maybe go there on occasion like once a year,

every time you think, man, I'd love to come out to the beaches. You get there, it's so pretty and the houses are beautiful. There's beach volleyball going on. Yeah, there's always beach volleyball and you're like, man, maybe I could move out here. And then you drive back west and you're like, I would never fucking live out here. It's so far.

It's like living in Kingston. I guess, you know, I invite people like yourself over a couple of times a week. People come over and I'm like, okay, where are you coming from? And whenever I hear, for example, like, oh, I live in Scarborough. Am I saying that right? Scarborough? I don't know.

You're Toronto, right? I know, but that's the thing. That's the thing. Scarborough, I'm like know. You're Toronto, right? I know, but that's a thing. That's a thing. Scarborough. I'm like, oh, you don't want to come here. That's going to take you like five hours to get here. Scarborough. Scarborough. Scarberia. I can't imagine coming from there. I think it would take Dan to get here faster

than someone coming from Scarborough. Dan will tell you it will take him 20 minutes to get from Peterborough to here. Don't forget to give me his whatever his personal email address is. I will get Dan O'Toole. I would love it. We can share it with the listeners. I need to thank you both. And I don't know who made this happen. I'm going to guess it was you. Maybe it was Zach.

Maybe Zach I should thank. But I received a Christmas gift from the Jay and Dan show. Yeah. But it was really cool. Yeah. I thought it was pretty cool too. There was a candle, right? And my almost 14-year-old daughter loves candles. She's got this candle obsession and she loves that candle.

She's going to burn this house down. Yeah. I always say when she falls asleep, I'm like, you blew it! That's right. Exactly. Yeah, I love and that's all the TSN PR team, putting stuff like that together and getting it out to the important people like yourself.

Make sure I get on all those lists because I also got a toque. There was a TSN toque. Yeah, that's a good thing to get. And a cool postcard picture of you guys. It looks like a Christmas card. Yeah, that was the idea. And we had, again, no creative input into this.

I didn't realize it was going out. You didn't even know I got it. Is that correct? No, I probably figured you would get it, but I just didn't know anything about it until people started getting it. And I was thrilled with it. I have to say, it's a lot different this time around at TSN in the sense that it's a little more corporate.

I started there in 96, so it was still a pretty small company that was started up. Run by Gino Retta. Gino, Ken Chilaback, Brendan Conner, all running it and hosting at the same time. That's not true. But it was just a smaller feel back then, and now it's very corporate. But having said that, pretty good, too. Pretty good place to work, I have to say. And, of course uh make the final oh vick what he's coming back to kick

out the jam is he oh that'll be fun oh i'd be fascinated to hear what kind of jams hey why do i envision like 1940s like big band stuff yeah it's like glenn miller orchestra jack armstrong when he uh we've we have jack and uh and Leo and Rod Black on a lot now with the Raptors in the postseason, at least for now, as of this listening boy. I wanted to rant about that too, actually. But it's so funny because the music Jack listens to and the way Jack carries himself,

you'd swear he was 90 years old. Like it's all Sinatra. Yeah. Well, you know, my favorite fun fact to drop on people which blows their mind is when I tell them that Jack Armstrong

is a younger man than Leo. I know. Which is amazing, right? Yeah, it's phenomenal. Not because... I mean, if Jack dressed differently,

got into the sun once in a while, you could see it. But because Jack doesn't do those things... Get that garbage out of here! He's so great. Now, last night was not a Jack game, because Jack is only on the TSN games.

No, that's right. He was on the radio, though. Right. Yeah, I heard him on the radio. Okay, let me just say, and I did see Vince Carter miss the three against the 76ers in the second round back whenever that was, 2000 or 2001, whatever. So, yes, that was a heartbreaking moment in Raptors history. But in my humble opinion, a guy who's been watching since I recorded the first game on VHS.

Oh, wow. Yep. Would have been about, what, 95, right? Because I know the Raptor mascot wears 95 on his back. Oh, there you go. That's how I remember. So I will just say that game one loss against the Cavs, I think that was the worst loss in Raptors history. But the game two loss last night against the Cavs

is the most humiliating moment in Raptors history. This is just my hot taker, if you will. Yesterday, because we were up at the half. I don't know if you were watching this game. Did you watch? I watch or listen on the way in because I'm driving in. So I start by watching and then I listen the rest of the way.

Yeah. And it was nice because I got to put the little two kids got to go to bed at halftime, which is very rare because this game started at 6 p.m. Right, right. Okay. So my 16-year-old is a diehard and we're watching this game just you knew about five minutes into the third quarter what like you've seen this movie before and just the way we folded like a cheap suit and just the way we lost that game and and i mean we're gonna get to uh my spot a sponsor here of the show uh

he has the twitter handle raptors devotee and i'm pretty sure he's considering changing that today. In everyone's opinion, the series is done. Yeah, and it's a bit premature, but I agree with what you're saying. The first game, they had all those opportunities inside five feet with less than a minute to go, and they couldn't play it.

And why doesn't JV dunk? He's as tall as you are. The opportunity is there. At least the chance is there. Yeah, exactly. At least the chance is there to win it in that case. Right. You know, Van Vliet has an open look. Like, there's lots of chances to win in that one.

So you're like, okay, probably should have won that game, but we had a chance to win that game. And it was there, and we just blew it. Whereas game two was, and you could see it, like, Jack is such a positive guy, right? Obviously, he's such a character. But he was genuinely devastated in our post-game hit last night. Like you could just tell he was like, I've got no answer. Like they basically have to remake the defense

halfway through a second round playoff series now. Like only this joyous conversation with you is snapping me out of my post-rapper's funk. Well, here's the question we were all asking ourselves last night at work. What do you do with this team? They win a record number of games in the regular season. Their bench is solid. Like, you know, from 1 to 12, they

look great on paper. Everyone has so much respect for Dwayne Casey, the coach. Everyone wishes they had Masai Jiri as their GM. It seems like on paper, it's like, what more could we do? Other than sign LeBron as a free agent. Right, right.

That would help, obviously. But just in terms of, you can't tinker that much. So then it's really frustrating, because at least if there was a glaring hole where you said to yourself, you know what, we've got to get rid of Lowry in the offseason. Well, no, you can't get rid of Lowry. There's just no... Not only is this a horrible potential

because nothing's happened yet, but potential second-round loss would be so devastating after the regular season they had, but it makes it worse because you just don't know how to solve it. And the X factor here is LeBron in the sense that we keep losing to the same guy. And that guy, for to the same guy. He's in there.

And that guy, for what it's worth, he's a guy, let's face it, seven seasons, I think we're at seven. If this happens this year, it'd be the eighth, I think. Eight seasons in a row where his team goes to the finals, which means nobody in the East has beat LeBron in this is the eighth season. Yeah, it's an amazing run. He's such, the people who dislike him. But I hate those people.

I really despise those people. There's no reason to dislike LeBron James. Some people just hate the people who are the best. Yeah. They're out there. Some people hate Jay and Dan. Did you know that? Oh, lots of people hate Jay and Dan.

But it seems like with LeBron, it's intensified to a level that I could never understand. Whereas Michael Jordan, as you know, like you and I grew up watching Michael Jordan, everyone loved Michael Jordan. Even if you were not, and this is before we knew about the gambling, the women on the side.

So he had this squeaky clean image. He was in all the coolest commercials. You know, Jordans were happening, you know, in real time. It wasn't this throwback Jordan thing. We all had that poster. Like, we all had the Michael Jordan poster. Yeah, the slam dunk competition. Yeah, exactly. And everyone loved

him. There wasn't as much dissent about it as now with LeBron, and it just baffles me. For what it's worth, I think LeBron, first of all, I think he's the best player to ever play the game. That's how good I think LeBron is. You can certainly make an argument. And I what it's worth, I think LeBron, first of all, I think he's the best player to ever play the game. That's how good I think LeBron is. You can certainly make an argument. And I would, I mean, I think he's got,

he speaks his mind. He's kind of, he's passionate. He's, you know, he's wife and kids. Apparently he's got a good family life. Like there's nothing to dislike here. I mean, and again, we might find out 20 years from now that he's had, you know, 30 women in every NBA city. Maybe that's the case. And like, I'm a cynic now about professional athletes, and I tend to think that's always the case. But it seems on paper that he has this family life. And take that out of it. Say that doesn't matter to you. How about just the fact that we have been talking about this guy since he was 13 years old, Yeah. And the fact that he was going to be the next Jordan. Not only did he fulfill that, he exceeded it.

And all along the way, he's made the right moves. Even the lone move that everyone points out, the decision, where he went on TV and announced that he was going to Miami and leaving Cleveland. This so-called wrong move gave the Boys and Crows Club of America $2 million. He raised $2 million for the way. So this disaster, this apocalyptic disaster that he did on TV raised all this money for underprivileged kids. So, yeah, I just love him, and I don't understand people who don't like him.

He's a pleasure to watch. We should just be embracing the fact that we're seeing one of the game's greatest in his prime. That's a pleasure to watch. We should just be embracing the fact that we're seeing one of the game's greatest in his prime. That's what I'm doing. Do you think there's any chance Jack Armstrong would come here? Yeah, I do, but I bet you... He lives in Buffalo, right?

That's right, he does. I think he would do it, but I bet you you'd see a TSN PR person coming along with him. But it won't be Zach. No, maybe you'll get Christy. Christy, she's fun. She's cool. She'd crush a few of these great lakes beers here okay let me ask you something

yeah well that's fine i'll get her own six-pack uh i gotta ask you a question about that so uh you work for bell media i have lots of people in the bell media family that come over like i was looking at the list like lots of people who work for whatever who what do you guys own lots of things ctv uh cp24 BNN, lots of people. Now, the only time in the history of the podcast where I've had a PR rep was your first visit. So what determines when that kicks in? It's when you're a bigger star, like myself.

When you're a huge deal. Myself, Jack, Leo. I'm telling Bob McKenzie that you... Because he didn't have a guy with him. And James Duthie didn't have a guy with him and James Duthie didn't have a guy but that's their way of trying to pretend like they're men

of the people when in fact they are the biggest they were their PR rep was waiting in the car yeah that's right you stay here

you're not coming in with me I need to tell people that if they want the A to Z of Jay Onright's illustrious career I'm going to read the description

and tell everybody what episode they need to go back and listen to. Go back to episode 260. So here's what I wrote. In this 260th episode, Mike chats with Jay about why he left TSN for Fox Sports. What went wrong there? Why he's returned with Dan O'Toole? And what the hell happened with that Much More Music show.

Oh, yeah. I was so happy you asked me about that. Is there anything else you wish I had asked you about the first time? No. I mean, I loved the chat, but I just love talking about that show. It's funny because, you know, I told you it was based on The Soup in the States, and now Joel McHale has a Netflix show called The Joel McHale Show

with Joel McHale, which is essentially the soup again. So maybe we could revive the week that was on Netflix Canada. Doesn't Netflix Canada have to spend like $6 trillion or something? Yeah, half a billion dollars. We could afford you. Surely they could throw a few pesos our way

for a revamp of the week that was. And then I saw, someone might have sent me after that episode a couple of clips of the show because they do exist online. And I actually think it held up okay better than I thought it would. I love doing it. Let's revive it. Even if it was a YouTube show, I'd subscribe and enjoy. Well, I was just at the Masonic Temple for the Terra Awards,

the Ryerson Year End Awards. And that's where we shot the show. So I hadn't been there since we did the show there. Because Bell had owned the temple at that time. And I believe they sold it off. Why? Because Bullard? Was it for Mike Bullard or something?

I started off for Bullard. Open mic. And then they had MTV Canada was there. They did the Hills after show, which was a hit. So You Think You Can Dance Canada had offices there. They put a lot of, you know, that was when things were still going great for TV, you know, like so they could have a couple of different pieces of real estate downtown, different studios. That venue was where the first Toronto hip hop shows would take place because I've had DJ Ron Nelson on.

I know you're an Abacathaska guy, so you don't know this history, but DJ Ron Nelson used to, he was the first guy to promote hip-hop shows in Toronto, and it was called the Concert Hall, right? Right, and it is called that again. It's called that again. Yeah.

So, yeah, that's where, you know, he would bring shows to the Concert Hall, and that's where the early Toronto hip-hop shows, and out of this, out of these ashes or whatever, rises the great phoenix that I'm looking at right now, Maestro Fresh West. Well, I'll say this.

Coming up in my jams, I have a little concert hall story. There's some foreshadowing. I forgot you were here to kick out the jams. Yeah, yeah. There's some foreshadowing for you. I were here to kick out the Jets. Yeah, yeah. There's some foreshadowing for you. I love that. You're a professional.

I love that. I noticed you cheated on me with Sean Fitzgerald. Is that true? Yeah, good guy. You should have him on the show. Do you know he's making his second appearance next week? I love it. He's next.

Oh, fantastic. Because I wouldn't let him follow Biff naked. Because that's how much I like Sean. And thanks for making me follow. Rock royalty. I thought Jay can probably hold his own following Biff, but Sean's going to get eaten. Like, forget it.

How is Biff? I haven't heard that one yet. How is Biff? I'm in love. Yeah. My wife's not listening right now. I'm in love with Biff naked. I bet you it would be easy to fall for her.

Well, she's a Mimico girl now. So for 30 years she lived in Vancouver. Right. I always think of her as a Vancouver girl. 30 years. So she's like raised in Winnipeg and ends up in Vancouver

where she spends 30 years because she's our age. She's a bit older than us, but only one year older, I think. She's in Vancouver forever and then she marries a guy named Snake. And I had to clarify, it is not Snake from Degrassi.

Okay, or not Dave Snake Sabo from Skid Row. Okay. I just swear to you, this is not a joke. I was listening to I Remember You. Great track. And I was thinking,

because I was working in the C&E when that album came out. I was working at Game Booth. And I was thinking, I don't, there was like three singles in a row, like Youth Gone Wild, I was thinking, I don't, there was like three singles in a row, like Youth Gone Wild, I Remember You,

and Big Guns, maybe, which I heard on the hair metal station coming in. No, there's a, did you? I did. I listened to a lot of Hair Nation

on Sirius XM. I don't blame, I wouldn't get your Molly Crew fix. It brings me back to my Athabasca childhood or my Askabasca. But help me get this before, because I can't even move on until I know the third single. Youth Gone Wild. Oh, 18 and Life.

Oh, right. 18 and Life was actually, I believe, the first single. Okay, you might be right. Because I was hearing my skid row on Q107. I remember when that single came out and everyone was like, have you heard this band? This is like, we're 14 years old at the time. Yes, of course. I will say this.

That summer after that album came out, because we were going to, in the time. I will say this, that summer after that album came out, because we were going to in the prairies, we go to bush parties. I've heard of these. We just go to a bush and party. And drink beer. And just drink around a giant bonfire. And I

remember that year after that album came out, because again, someone would back their pickup truck up to the fire, crank up, put a tape in to the tape deck and crank the stereo. That would be the soundtrack of the party. And I remember that album, the first Skid Row self-title album. Every party, every... And they just play it over and over. They just go back to the beginning, play it over and over and over.

That album I listened to about a million times. We spun that album all the time at the C&E that summer and those were the three big singles that hit the radio. Yes. But I remember,

this was just a few days ago, I was re-remembering the Skid Row album a few days ago and I was thinking, in my head, I was hearing the songs like,

18 and life and of course, Youth Gone Wild. Ricky was a young boy. Yeah. The Big Gun song. So that might not have been a single, but they were playing it on Hair Nation

and the lyrics go like this. She's got the big guns pointed at my heart. Bang, bang, shoot them like a firing squad. Big guns. She blew me away and now I'm down in flames. Sebastian Bach. Yes. Peterborough, Ontario's own. And friend of Axl Rose, I believe. Yeah, I think he might be right.

And I think he does Broadway stuff now or something. Does he? Yeah. I think so, maybe. And that lyric there, because I was a big Alice Cooper fan too, and he put out an album that had Poison on it, and he had a song in there called I'm Your Gun. I remember, push it, pull it, bite my bullet, tell me I'm the one. I'm your gun, I'm your gun, gun, gun.

Alice Cooper. Yeah. And I remember I was in high school and I remember, I don't think he's talking about a gun. What is he alluding to here? I wonder what this gun is. That era of music is so hilarious because I have a couple of buddies and we're such nerds.

We listen to vinyl all the time and we'll get together at each other's place and listen to vinyl and talk about the equipment that we're listening. It's just such losers. But these guys are a little older than I am. They're maybe seven, eight years older than me. So they have open and utter disdain for the hair metal era.

Like they, to them, it's the worst thing that ever happened to music. And I know a lot of people have that opinion. In fact, the people who came before, their formative years before that, and the people after, all despise it. The people like you and I

who were immersed in it, because it was the coolest thing ever. Cinderella. Poison. Poison was my first concert. The people who were immersed in it, Ricky Rock was the drummer. C.C. DeVille. Bobby D, right? Ricky Rocket was the drummer. C.C. DeVille. C.C. was the guitarist.

Bobby Dahl. Bobby Dahl was the bass. And, of course, Brett Michaels. Brett Michaels. You got it. I remember that band very well. There's your band from Philadelphia. Put the cat dragged in.

That's it. Great album. So these bands were so important to me at the time. And then, of course, I thought for years and years, God, this is... I can't remember how I listened to it. Because Grunge came. That's what happened to me anyways.

It killed it. Yeah. And Grunge did kill it. Yeah. I mean, like, that's what happened to me anyways. It killed it, yeah. And Grunge did kill it, yeah. I mean, like, Smells Like Teen Spirit, literally,

with one, with one song, that entire genre of music was over instantly. It was actually amazing because you, even being in it, you knew it was happening

at the time. You were like, yeah, that's over. And you and I are perfect age when this happens, or teenagers when Smells Like Teen Spirit breaks, and then, you're right, that hair metal's gone now. It's gone. It's over. But prior to that, You're like, yeah, that's over. You and I are perfect age when this happens. We're teenagers when Smells Like Teen Spirit breaks and then you're right.

That hair metal's gone now. It's gone. It's over. Prior to that, you're right. And I do have a lot of people kicking out the jams who are like mid-50s, I'd say. A lot of sports media people

in their mid-50s come and kick out the jams. Right. We're the only ones hanging out. But what I noticed with them and I can't quite relate and I think you might, I want you to hear your thoughts on this because you were born in 74,

but everything is like Bruce Springsteen is the big god, okay? But my first Bruce Springsteen experience was born in the USA. Mine too. And I agree with you 100%. With Springsteen, it's different for me. Going back now, I can appreciate the 70s albums. But it's not the same because you're going back. But imagine you were a teenager when Bruce

hits. Totally. Then he's like everything to you, right? He's not everything to me either. I will say this, though. In hindsight, I loved the Tunnel of Love album. Okay, the one after Born in New York. It's a great album. And it was two albums? No, it was just one. But he didn't have the E Street band on it.

So the sound is different. I didn't love the... Brilliant Disguise. Are you sure? Yes. It wasn't two albums? No, it wasn't. It was one album.

But Brilliant Disguise was a single on that album. Great song. Yeah, I'm with you. I love the music is more synth kind of driven. It's less sax and E Street style. And I think that's his best album. And I know a lot of people love that album, but that's a different Bruce Springsteen record.

Right. It just speaks to me more. And when I talk to these people in their 50s about my thoughts on Bruce, they look at me like I'm an alien or whatever. Because if you don't know 70s, if you didn't grow up with 70s Bruce, which we didn't,

you don't have the same connection to Bruce Springsteen. I don't think so. And that's the same Bruce Springsteen guys hated hair metal. I'm sure it's all like tied in together. And you could take it a step further. My first experience with David Bowie and Mick Jagger was the Dancing in the Street video, which was just a disaster.

Because Samantha Taylor played it on video. Right. And so I'm like, these guys are not cool. Like the Rolling Stones, right? The coolest band ever. You're right. In our minds, I'm like, these guys are not cool. They're Rolling Stones, the coolest band ever. In our minds, you're like, they're old.

Look at all these great, look at Motley Crue. They're young, they're hip, they're cool. These guys are all dinosaurs. I'm not listening to this crap. It was only later that I,

the Stones are probably one of my top two bands. It's only later that I come to appreciate this band. It was a weird time you're right you're right it's weird i will say on the bruce thing though my two even today that my two if i'm gonna go now play two bruce springsteen songs so i know you'd go to the tunnel of love album or whatever um what i would play are these soundtrack songs i like the dead man walking song he did like

i really like uh there's a pale horse coming and i'm going to ride it. I ride in the morning. My fate decided I'm a dead man walking. I don't know. This one I love. I'm not doing it justice, am I? The other one I love is the Philadelphia song. Right. That was a hit. Yeah. Those are my two. I think the Dead Man Walking

was a hit, too. Maybe you were preoccupied that month. Probably. A lot of peyote at the time or something. All right. I love that Simpsons episode where Johnny Cash plays the dog. Is he a dog or a coyote?

I think he might have been a coyote. Do you remember this one? I got to be honest. You're not a Simpsons guy. No, no. I love the Simpsons, but I'm not the guy who can identify

individual episodes and things that happen. So I always feel bad because I think people expect me to be. Yeah, because they drop the reference on you and you get it. So I always feel bad because I think people expect me to be. Yeah, because they drop the reference on you and you get it. And I'm just like,

listen, I've seen a bunch of episodes, but I can't pick out like every... I can only do it for the first... I'm a big let down with that. ...the 10 seasons and I can't do it after that. But one quick note... But now Disney owns them.

I'm very upset about this. Disney owns too much, I'm just saying. And they own TSN. I will say though, like they do own too much, but they haven't done a bad job with the Marvel stuff.

I don't know. When was the last? Did you see Black Panther? That's the only one I haven't seen. I saw Infinity War the other day. Did you? Did you go, Dan? No, no.

Share the popcorn? He won't go. He didn't even know it existed as a movie until like a week before it came out. That's amazing. He is both, Brendan

Halloran, our writer, who is also our writer on The Week That Was. You should have him on. Brendan said something so true about Dan. He is both the most connected and least connected human being on the planet. The things he is into,

he's dialed with. Springsteen, he'll do a Kick Out the Jams with just 10 Springsteen songs. He loves Springsteen. But you ask him to name three Marvel characters, and I almost guarantee he will struggle with that. That's amazing. Maybe he could get three, but five would be a massive stretch. He'll know the Incredible Hulk because we watched the, what's, Lou Ferrigno?

Yeah. Ferrigno, did I say it wrong? Lou Ferrigno. Yeah. Ferrigno. Lou Ferrigno. Yeah. Ferrigno was the Hulk. And Bill Bixby. No. That name. Yeah.

Who played Bruce Banner? Was it Bill Bixby? Oh, yeah. Maybe you're right. Yeah. I can't remember. But yeah, that was great. Those shows are great as kids.

Yeah. I liked Wonder Woman. I loved watching Wonder Woman as a kid. She was. Man. I just saw. Linda Carter. Linda Carter. Yeah. Yeah. I just saw a documentary as a kid. She was, man, I just saw. Linda Carter. Yeah, yeah.

I just saw a documentary about superheroes and stuff, and she was on it. She was absolutely stunning. She's still stunning. I mean, yeah, she still looks great. She was in Super Troopers, too. We just had those guys on the show. Okay, tell me how the show,

I was going to do a whole, well, maybe really quickly, because I know it has nothing to do with you because you're owned by Disney, but Rogers didn't let Bob Cole call any playoff games. And am I being an old fart by saying, like, that sucks? Or do I need to move on? But Bob Cole wanted to call playoff games.

He was ready, willing, and able. And they just said, have a seat, Bob. And to me, that's unacceptable. I'm pounding the table. Unacceptable. They didn't handle it very well, I don't think. But in their defense, in the defense of the Rogers guys,

hear me out here. 2005, 2006, I think I'm getting the dates right, Calgary goes on an amazing cup run and then the next year Edmonton does, right? Right. Keep in mind, this is 12 years ago now, okay?

At the time, Bob was still calling the cup final. Bob, oh, you got an email from Bob. Thanks for talking about me, baby. So this is 12 years ago, Mike. At the time, I distinctly remember Flames fans and Oilers fans furious, furious at Bob. Loved him, right? They loved him as much as anyone, but by

then, Bob had already stopped learning the names of teams other than the Leafs, right? So he didn't know a lot of the players on the Calgary Flames and the Edmonton Oilers 12 years ago. That's a bit of a bone of contention for fans of those teams.

For a public broadcaster, a public broadcaster, their play-by-play guy to not know those players. Well, then give him a farewell tour and retire him with grace and dignity or something. I hear you. So maybe you're saying it was... Well, I'm just saying if he's calling the Jets, he's like, here they come! Three wide!

Three of them! Three Jets! But am I the only one who's okay with that? I mean, I'm watching the damn game. It's not a radio. I mean, it seems like a lot of people would be totally fine with it. Everything is happening. I'm just saying that's the only problem. I think no one cares nationally if it's Leafs against Columbus, right?

Because then who cares if he knows the Blue Jackets? He knows all the Leafs. It's great. And he still has the most amazing voice ever. The energy he brings, that's what I think we all miss. Yeah, it's the sense of the moment that, yeah, just... So have you heard the Paul Romanuk episode of Toronto Mike? No, no.

I know Paul a little bit, but I didn't listen to Paul's episode. Well, he disclosed, because I was talking about Bob Cole, as I do, and he just said, you know, he said to me that... Oh, he was... He said Jim Hewson and himself, so Paul Romanek and Jim Houston, he said they were getting the conference finals. He didn't give me any more DLB. So at that point, I already knew at that point

that Bob was, at the time, I thought he was only going to get two rounds because the conference finals are going to Jim Houston and Paul Romanek. I didn't realize that he was going to get no rounds. Like, give him a round. So this Rick Ball, I think his name is. Who's very good, by the way.

Yeah, he's Calgary's play-by-play guy. He's really good. And, you know, I think they feel like, well, you know, we've got someone here that we like and we want to give him some play. And so I guess I see it. Yeah, it just, the problem with, in general, like broadcasting in general,

if you hang on to the end, there's going to be an awkward moment where you're not doing what you probably should be doing. And by the way, I don't blame anyone for hanging on to the end. I might hang on to the end because, quite frankly, there's nothing else that any of us could do that would be more fun than this. So what are we going to do?

Just stop doing it to save our egos? But then once we stop doing it, realize, oh shit, I could have kept doing it a little longer. It's like the player who retires too early and then realizes, wait a minute, I can never make as much money

or have as much fun as I did playing. Like a Mike Fisher, for example. Well, that's why, exactly. Mike is a great example, where he realizes, wait a minute, I'm at home now with my kid and Carrie's out touring and I'm bored, like, what am I going to do? That's why you see so many, we have a theory, I think I might have said this on the last podcast, about assistant coaches in the NHL. They're just bored, ex-NHL players. They're just bored. Like, because an assistant coach, you know, what's going on really? You're just doing what the head coach tells you to do. So you're just getting out of the house. That's funny. Right? You're just

getting it because what else are you going to do? And you're not going to make the same scratch. So yeah, it's a tough one with Bob. I don't know what else to say because for Bob, I think the game is his life too. That's the devastating thing. I don't think he has a ton of other hobbies other than getting on the plane from

the rock every Saturday and coming in to call games. He's got to rejoin the curling club. Yeah, that's true. Pete M has a question for you. Have you ever watched any Frank D'Angelo movies? I have not actually sat through an entire movie.

We talk about Frank a lot. It's just an incredible thing. But you have no fear because what if he puts a hit on you or something? You don't have this in the back of your mind that maybe you don't play with Frank. I'm not sure he has a great sense of humor. Well, we had him on our podcast once. He was extremely kind,

but we didn't give it to him too much. And it's just so ridiculous. So if the listeners don't know, Frank, in addition to being the guy who had, what were the beers? What were they? Oh, steelback beers and then he had uh the cheetah was in the ads yes yes i think wendell no it was d'angelo was the name of the d'angelo brand uh apple juice was also his before the beer well i read you know who's the billionaire who was just murdered. Oh, yeah, Barry Sherman. So Barry Sherman invested in the

brewery, I guess it is, that became Steelback. And I think one of the caveats was like, okay, Barry said his son has to be the CEO or something like that. And Barry was a big financier of all the Frank D'Angelo stuff. Yeah, Barry was the Apotex

pharmaceuticals guy, and he was extremely wealthy. But he believed he found something in Frank he liked, at least liked enough to cut a lot of fat. Yeah, I mean, I could see Frank being charming. It's just the fact that he is... Take all this out of it, the business side of it out of it, and the fact that he was in ads cooking rapini.

He thinks he's this renaissance man. Then he's writing these movies. He records albums. He records albums, He records albums. And then he has a talk show, which is just an infomercial. He pays to get it on CHCH. You saw the CHCH posters behind him. Jim Taddy is his sidekick.

Yes. And I had lunch yesterday with Mark Hebbshire. Oh, wow. That's a name drop. See the small world stories. Wow. Well, and Hebbshire's a good example, right? You know, he's keeping it going.

Like, there's nothing more fun than broadcasting. Did you have Hebsey on this? Like, I think four or five times. Oh, you got to, yeah, get him on again. I don't know. He tells a great story. But you did not get Sportsline in Abathakaskaska. Athabaska.

It's not hard to say. All right. Jake the Snake, and I think you've already done this with the Bush Party talk and everything, but he says, memories of Athabasca. Got it right? Yeah. Memories of Athabasca, of course. Maybe, what does he say?

Maybe dining highlights from the burger bar. Neighbors, Union Hotel, Giorgio's. Giorgio's, yeah. And the G Spot those are all Athabasca restaurants some still there, some not Georgios was like every Italian restaurant

on the prairies run by a Greek family and they were an amazing family the Skagos and they had made great pizza but they would have a couple of Greek dishes on the menu that were delicious but I always remember the dad, George Skagos, every once in a while you'd be eating there, and all of a sudden the waiters and waitresses

would be really tense. You'd be like, oh, no, what's going on in the kitchen? And then you'd hear George just lose it on somebody, possibly his wife, just go mental, you know, like, I told you to you shut up or something like that and then everything would be silent and then everyone would just keep eating right uh that was an intense experience the union hotel used to be very downtrodden and run down and now it's sort of come back to life a bunch of local guys have brought it back to life that's like the drake

right they just get very great money into it fix it up and make it it's now now you know the four dollar pints are now $15. Right, and they have a place out in Prince Edward County and in the Junction. What do they call it? Gentrification?

Is that the word I'm looking for? Yeah, you know, it's good in small... Would I like Athabasca? Would I like it? Is it the prairie? No,

it can't be. Is it the Paris of Alberta? It's a nice little town uh it's the land of the whispering hills it says on our welcome that's nice it's like that gore downy dear uh gore downy lyric in the land of whispering speakers this is from um uh it's a good life if you don't weaken it's always been a good line it's a i don't know if the hills do actually whisper but that's what it says on the welcome sign yeah it was a great place to grow up like i loved growing up there someone uh sean sean fitzgerald asked said who could live in the country and who could live in the city

easier because dan lives in the country now i live in the city right you know who could switch and uh and we both said that dan could easier but i i could live in a small town again no problem i'd be because you're from a small town yeah exactly, exactly. I don't know what I would do. I mean, maybe I could. I'm not going to say, but I've always lived in the same city, which is kind of... Yeah.

See, maybe you should untether yourself, you know? Maybe you bring the ex, you bring the kids. We all go. We all buy a big house. Everybody goes. Yeah. Like, find somewhere where I can buy

like a big house for like $150,000. Yes, everybody lives there. Get a good Wi-Fi and you're all you're set to go you can you can bike and you can watch it might not be a bad idea i'm gonna look into it i just gotta pick my destination i'm feeling though i'm feeling uh maritimes i feel like i would i would think you'd love it i think well i think you know there's so many uh aside from the people being amazing and everything um it definitely is, from a real estate perspective,

a lot different than the rest of the country. It's still somewhat affordable. Keegan Matheson sold me on it. I've had a few Maritimers on lately, and Keegan Matheson, he covers baseball, and he's a proud Nova Scotian. Ron James was on this show.

He's a funny guy. He's also a proud Nova Scotian. Is there any Nova Scotians who aren't proud of being from Nova Scotia? Yeah, Marchant from the Boston Blues. I think he's the only Maritimer I don't like. I bet you, though, if he played for the Buttletons,

you would love him. It's like Darcy Tucker back in the day. We all loved Darcy Tucker as Leaf fans, but here's a newsflash. Everyone thought the same way about Darcy Tucker's Leaf fans, but here's a newsflash. Everyone thought the same way about Darcy Tucker that Leaf fans feel about Brad Marchand. You're right, my friend.

It's true. It's true. Darcy Tucker, by the way. Yeah. Good Alberta boy. I mean, I love him. Right back from Johnny Bauer. The Prairie kids always thrive in Toronto. I don't know why. Wend Wendell Clark from Kelvington. Wendell is like a great example of a, you know,

Lanny. I had Gord Stelik on recently. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and you got to listen. If you ever have a spare two and a half hours. Although, I just looked at the clock. We might beat the record. Who knows how the jam chicken goes.

I forgot we were kicking out the jams. And that takes a good 45 minutes. All right, let's do it. But first, your first jam, of course, is Nana Muscuri. Yes. Well, and that's,

now is Nana from the prairies? She's from like Greece or something. Oh, I thought she was like Canadian. I'm pretty sure she's Greek. You mentioned Georgios there yelling at the wife.

I think that's a cultural thing. There's passion in the belly. Why did I think Nana Muscve was Canadian? I have no idea. No, you know, again, because we're both born the same year,

we are a bit young for Nana Musgrave. She was a 70s thing. But I remember her presence as a kid. Yeah, me too. And you're right. I remember her around.

I think we had a... I felt like she was... You probably felt she was from... Don't tell me. I don't know what's wrong with me. Athabasca. Yeah, I probably did. And I probably thought she was from Toronto. Well, my. I don't know what's wrong with me. Athabasca. Yeah, I probably did.

And I probably thought she was from Toronto. Well, my mom was in a band at the time called the Rainbow Riders in Athabasca. What kind of music? It started as a Ukrainian polka band. Before she joined it, it was a bunch of brothers and cousins. Like the Schmenge brothers.

Kind of. Like the Ukrainians are prominent on the prairies, right? Right. They're farmers. Red Basket of the West. So probably half of my town was of Ukrainian descent. And so they were kind of a polka band. And then she joined and they started to do some of the hits of the day.

Karma Chameleon covers, that kind of thing. And they became a bit more hip. She was essentially the Stevie Nicks of the Rainbow Riders. She arrived and things changed big time of the Rainbow Riders. She arrived and things changed big time. Then the cocaine arrived. John Gallagher,

yes, I was going to say John Gallagher because, you know, by the way, he's a pistol. John Gallagher's got stories.

He's been over a couple of them. But he had a story about Stevie Nicks and cocaine and it was just ridiculous. Anyway, he's got it in his book. But I digress.

We're talking about something much more wholesome than that. Nana I digress. We're talking about something much more wholesome than that. Nana Muscari. You have a three-year-old Nana Muscari in her Greek glasses. Three-year-old child. When your three-year-old

is a little older, send her to French camp. Do her a favor. Send her to French camp because she'll come back from French camp comfortable, loving the language.

We bought our house in the area we did so she could go to French immersion school right down the street. My kids go to French immersion. Fantastic. We have our house in the area we did so she could go to French immersion school right down the street. My kids go to French immersion. Fantastic.

We have so much in common. Wow. Holy smokes. So much in common. But yes, go to everybody listening who has a child between the ages of

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And how's your wife? Is your wife happy back here? She loves it and she is fluent because she went through French immersion, beautiful Brampton, Ontario, just like Tristan Thompson did. Chloe, Chloe. Oh, you've upset me again. I mentioned, so I had this funk. I really was because I record every morning.

You probably don't know this, but every morning I record another podcast. It's only three minutes long and it's called TMI. And I recorded every morning. It's up by 8 a.m. every morning. You probably don't know this, but every morning I record another podcast. It's only three minutes long and it's called TMI. And I recorded every morning. It's up by 8 a.m. every morning. It's four things you need to know. The voice, the guy who does the countdown on my podcast is Mark Hebbshire. Hebbsy?

Hebbsy. Oh, wow. It's not a small world. But this morning I recorded it and I listened back and I'm like, it was really flat. Like something was off. And I realized I was still like depressed about that Raptors game.

Oh, wow. And then I got an email from Brian Gerstein from propertyinthesix.com and he has a message for you. And I wanted to hear because he asks a question of each guest and I need to hear what his question is because if I ask that same question

two minutes before I play the clip, like that's stupid. I guess I listen to it and I'm listening to it and I. And you've heard other episodes where you hear Brian's normal message. He's kind of a perky, enthusiastic guy. But I listen to this message for you. And I think we should put him on suicide watch. Do you want to hear it now? Yes, I do.

Okay. This is from... What a great lead up to this. Property in the six dot com. Hi, Jay. Brian Gerstein here, sales representative with PSR Brokerage and proud sponsor of Toronto Mike's. Quick follow up on my rant against Doug Ford

from Mike's last podcast with Biff Nakey, which was amazing, by the way. Doug Ford has backed down after my and others outcry about Ford telling developers a big chunk of the green bill will be developed. So great news there. Call me at 416-873-0292 for any real estate needs you have. The real estate market has stabilized and modest price increases at best lie ahead. Che, hypothetical. price increases at best lie ahead.

Che, hypothetical, but is there any chance you can see yourself, either solo or with Dan, moving back to the States when you are done with TSN? Before you answer the question, before you answer it, you do a lot of reads, right? You're a TV star. You do lots of reads.

That's what I would call a flat read, right? It's a bit flat. He sounds sad. Yeah, and he wasn't even really sad. That's a I would call a flat read, right? It's a bit flat. He sounds sad. Yeah. Well, and he wasn't even really sad. That's a big win for him about the green belt, but he didn't even seem to be that happy about that. And I remember every episode he records a message, and he's, hi, and he's a very positive guy, you know? But this one, honestly, I listened to it and I thought, he's sad.

You got the Globe and Mail saying it's the worst month in Toronto real estate history in the last 10 years. But he's spinning it that we're getting modest gains, which makes me happy having just bought a house at the peak of the market. And even that isn't making him happy. No, that's fine. He's Raptor's devotee on Twitter. I think he's sad. I'm going to reach out to him later, make sure he's okay. He shouldn't be left alone today. It's going to be

fine. You heard that message. It's not fine. No, I mean, you know what? It'll work out. He's going to sell a couple of houses today and then it'll all work out. Is he going to sell your house? Because are you, when the TSN gig is over, which hopefully is in 50 years or whatever,

would you return to the US of A? Yeah. Well, here's my problem. And you understand this because we do have so much in common. We have little kids. So, like, I used to think about retiring. I had a buddy and we used to talk about 53.

Like, in 10 years, like, 53, that's it. I'm out of the business. I'm retiring. There's no chance now with a three-year-old. Like, forget it. I'm out of the business. I'm retiring. There's no chance now with a three-year-old. Like, forget it. I'm going to be locked in that house. You know how kids are now. She'll probably be living with us until she's 30. I'm 43 now. So 73 minimum is the earliest age I could retire. So yeah, at 73, will I buy a nice mid-century modern bungalow in Palm Springs and go down there half the year? Yes, I will do that.

But it's so far in the distant future that I can't even think about it. Well, your beautiful daughter is an anchor. She is an anchor. A beautiful anchor. Yes, she is. And that school district, as anyone in real estate will understand. And you have to wear bulletproof vests down there when you go to school, right? Oh, God.

Well, we were in Santa Monica. It was pretty nice. He looks up. So I hope Brian's okay. It was a great question. Maybe Brian can sell me a house in Palm Springs in 30 years. That's almost a GTA. I think you can do that.

You have a beer sponsor on your podcast, right? Yes, yes. It's one of those big boys. Yeah, yeah, one of the big brands. So they don't mind. It's like a fly on the back of an elephant. But there is a fiercely independent, that's the keyword,

a fiercely independent craft brewery here in Southern Ontario southern Toronto Great Lakes Brewery great people the owner has kicked out the jams Peter Bullitt let's see the owner

of your sponsor come kick out the jam who owns that it's a conglomerate I'll say this it's great beer this is great beer I love Great Lakes

and I will say this look at this Harry Porter wow is this now like does this Harry Porter. Wow. Is this... Now, does J.K. Rowling approve that? No. There's something on the back.

I asked that question. They said, read the back. They have a message to J.K., which is basically, please don't sue us. That is amazing to have the balls to just do it. Let's see the conglomerates doing that. No, you're right. That's one of the nice things about being fiercely independent

is you can do some cheeky things like that and get away with it. Having said that, if the Great Lakes Brewery people ever just sell out to one of those conglomerates, no one will be happier than me because that means they're just going to be on easy street. Then they wouldn't be doing what they love. It's not always about money. No, Jay, listen, trust me.

You're on Toronto Mike's right now. It's definitely not always about money. No, Jay, listen, trust me. You're on Toronto Mike's right now. It's definitely not always about money. Absolutely. So enjoy your Great Lakes beer. I'm so excited. What are we in? May now? In June or July, there was a Toronto Mike night at the Great Lakes Brewery. They have a big patio.

And then just for listeners of the podcast to get together to enjoy a pint. If you're a Western Toronto guy, would you come to that? It depends on the night. I'm always up for going out. But the problem with my job is I work at night. Your job.

You have a job. Well, barely. When do you leave for work? The great thing about my job from a family perspective, I don't leave until 8.30 and my daughter goes to bed at 8.15. So she actually thinks I'm unemployed. She thinks that because I'm with her all day long and it's great. Except right now. Except for right now. Is she home alone? Be honest. She's by herself. And we're just like, you know what, eventually you've got to learn. And the only way to learn is to stay home alone home alone uh no she uh she's either with her mama

or she's at her uh her school which i put in heavy quotations that's where my kids are learning lots of things how to color there's really just a really great caregiver watching over her as she plays right now it's such a great oh it's such a great break no that's great that's great. So we do. We honestly have a lot in common. But there's another thing we have in common. We've got to pay bills. Right. You're paying your bills, right? Barely. I'm in Canadian broadcasting. Well, I'm a podcaster.

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a one Paytm point for every dollar spent. I seriously love this app. I ask everybody listening to download the Paytm Canada app for free. You can get it from Google Play or the App Store. You go to paytm.ca, you sign up, and then you use the code, the promo code Toronto Mike, when you make your first payment, and they give you $10. $10. You can use it towards any future bill. Free money, my friends. I can see Jay's doing it right now.

He's on his phone doing it right now. Thank you, Jay, for doing that. Just checking the time. Jay, are you ready to kick out the jam? I am so ready. This bed is on fire with passion and love. The neighbors complain about the noises above. But she only comes What a great line.

My favorite line. I love this song. Yeah, it's awesome. But can you name a second James song? Well, I have to admit, I don't have any other record. I don't think I've ever even bought a James record, even though I know they're a band that a lot of people love.

I'm with you, but this song I absolutely adore, and I was so happy that I got to kick it out first, and even hearing the first opening chords, I'm like, what a fucking great jam, and that line, she only comes when she's on top. Amazing.

Amazing. The reason I picked it... opening chords, I'm like, what a fucking great jam. And that line, she only comes when she's on top. Amazing. Amazing. The reason I picked it... So when I first... So my jams are the story of my time in Toronto. This is songs that I have learned or listened to and enjoyed while I've lived in this city only. This song takes me back to 1994 when I first moved to this city and went to Ryerson.

And we used to hang around at a place that Leaf fans will remember called PM Toronto's. Of course. PM Toronto's, which was a sports bar near Maple Leaf Gardens, but essentially on Thursday nights became a Ryerson party hangout. And this song would always play at PM Toronto's and everyone would always have a good time jamming out to this tune. So this always takes me back to PM Toronto's,

which eventually became a gay bar called Zippers. That's a great name. And then now, I believe, has been completely leveled. The building, I think, isn't even there anymore. And it might be condos or apartments. So PM Toronto's is no more. I remember you used to see Wendell there. You used to see Leafs there after the game.

Oh, that's amazing. By the way, the same time that you're at that PM Toronto there, the Ryerson people, I'm working at the Galleria Mall at Dufferin and DuPont at the same time at a grocery store there. And in that mall, there was a PM Toronto. No way. Yeah.

Wow. So I had no idea. This is the first I've ever heard. I thought it was a one-off thing. No, definitely there was a PM Toronto. And I remember because they would all bet on the horses and stuff. They would go there and bet on horses or something. So the PM Toronto's, I guess Toronto's Church and Carlton.

Right. I don't remember off track. Have you ever been to the Galleria Mall? This is a special place. It's close to where I live now. So I go by there all the time. But you're more of a Dufferin Mall man.

Is that fair to say? I hit them both because I like the gallery. It has, I think, an LCBO. Yes. And it has McDonald's there that my daughter and I like to frequent. Right. So, yeah, I hit the gallery once in a while. Five years of my life, grocery clerk, when it was a food city and then a price chopper.

Not too shabby, Mike. Let's kick out another jam. You let me violate you You let me desecrate you You let me penetrate you You let me complicate you Help me I broke apart my insides Help me

I've got no soul to tell Help me The only thing that works for me Help me get away from myself I don't wanna fuck you like an animal The lyrics have chosen so far. So sexual. Let me get this straight.

She only comes when she's on top and I wanna fuck you like an animal. I think I know what the theme is. So I'm also not really a Nine Inch Nails fan either. But again, in keeping with the spirit of this Kick Out the Jams episode all about Toronto, this song

takes me to the Phoenix Concert Theatre, 410 Sherbourne Street. It's still there. Friday nights at Ryerson were the Phoenix. And we would walk through the park like just the dumbest thing ever. Scary, frightening.

And we would walk from Ryerson to the Phoenix and we would hang there every Friday night. Andy Frost would often be the DJ. Are you sure it was Fridays though? Oh yeah, we always went Fridays. Andy Frost, I went to the Phoenix once a week. I don't think Andy was a regular DJ there.

It might have been Martin Streak or something like that. Could have been. On Fridays. But Andy didn't normally do it. But the reason I always bring up Andy is because Andy, did I tell you this on the last podcast, that Andy would always get on the mic and be like, does anybody have weed for the DJ?

Does anybody have a doobie for the DJ? Like in his fantastic voice. Do you know they let him go? Andy Frost. Yeah, I did know that. Although he hasn't publicly said it on the air, but he's getting a chance to say goodbye because he's been at Q for like, I don't know, 30 years or something

like that. But I think it's happening this month. This is our business, unfortunately. But very quickly, this song, again, not a Nine Inch Nails guy. You know, I think they're fine, but just not my style of music. But this song, again, would play those Friday

nights at the Phoenix, and everyone would start going to town on the dance floor. I don't know. It just brings me back to that moment. And then coming full circle, living in Santa Monica, because our daughter was born down there in L.A., we were at a little preschool down there.

We had our little play group. And among the parents who had children at this preschool, Trent Reznor, which I was just like, wow, we're really in L.A. That's amazing. The nine-inch nail guy has a kid in our preschool. That's amazing. The Nine Inch Nails guy has a kid in our preschool. That's amazing. My Phoenix memories are very similar to yours, but I would go on Monday nights for Strange Paradise, it was called,

and Andy Frost always hosted Strange Paradise. It was brought by Q107. I think you were, I think Martin Streak, because they had the small room, because we had the small and then the big room. Right, right. We were always in the big room. Right, same here. But Monday nights, Strange Paradise, and you're right, this song was a staple.

Just a staple of the era. You know, it really was. Early 90s, these guys are just gigantic. This guy. It's not even this guy. It's one guy. It's one guy. Like I said, it's just a song.

I love songs that take you back to a specific exact moment. And this will always take you back to a specific exact moment. And this will always take me to the fiend. I would listen to Martin Streak do live to airs from places like Phoenix. And I remember they would be late on a Friday or Saturday night. And this jam would always be played. And I remember getting kind of excited that I'm listening to radio and they're saying the F word uncensored.

It was like dangerous. You can hear the crowd in the background on the radio, right? You can almost like smell the dry ice or whatever. It seemed to me like a very glamorous and fun existence. And I know it probably wasn't for those guys. It was work, but it seemed fun to me. I'm sure they were having a lot of fun. And did you have the girls in cages at the Phoenix?

Yeah, exactly. Sometimes they would paint themselves with this fluorescent paint or something. Yeah, it was fun. The Phoenix, still fun. Still a great venue. I saw the Breeders, or Yola Tango was just there. These are shows I'd love to go to,

but again, I'm always working at night. The Breeders, Cannonball. Are you kidding me? By the way, that again, I can name you the songs that were staples because Thunderclap 65, but again, I'm always working at night. The Breeders, Cannonball. Are you kidding me? That was a... By the way, that again, I can name you the songs that were staples because Thunder Kiss 65, for example, by Zombie. Was it Rob? No, White Zombie?

White Zombie. Right. Is that right? Okay, White Zombie. Yeah, I think it was White Zombie. I don't know that one. Thunder Kiss 65, you know when you hear it. But that one, Cannonball was a big one.

That album was great. I thought Last Splash, great album. Right. And they have a new album out and it's the original, it's the Last Splash era lineup of the Breeders has this new album out. So I guess they were just the Phoenix. I would have loved to have gone to that show. Amazing. Great venue. You don't remember

Acid Test by any chance. Okay, so they opened up for Nine Inch Nails sometimes, but they were just here. That's why I mentioned them. Oh, cool. And I was at their reunion show, so they were big in the early 90s, and then they disappeared for 25 years, and now they're back. Now they're back.

So acid test. Making their way back into the scene. It's a great jam, though. And you're right. I'm not a big Nine Inch Nails. Like, I like Hurt, and I like some of the bigger songs, but this is the definitive Nine Inch Nails jam.

For sure. For sure. definitive Nine Inch Nails jam. For sure. I see what's coming next. I'm excited to play the next jam. It's a little shorter than this one, so I'm going to go straight into it.

Love it. Awesome. You'll have to tell your story quickly. This is a short jam. Yeah. Who doesn't love these guys? You should listen to that episode. Chris Murphy's been here, and we play all his stuff and talk about it it was amazing i think uh i think they're an unbelievable band and uh this song is important because it was their their big comeback song everyone thought they were done

uh they did the first two albums uh smeared Smeared was huge for me at the University of Alberta. It was underwhelmed. Huge for me. 92, I listen to that constantly. Then Twice Removed, maybe. A lot of people think that's their best album. Yeah, because Coke's me is on that one, yeah. And then a lot of people, they kind of seem to have broken up. That was sort of the word.

And then they come back with this album and this video, which is amazing. It's sort of a takeoff of the beginning of Easy Rider. Yes, the airport. Yeah. And I just love these guys. And I love that they're still doing it. They have a new record out. It's weird to me that they all kind of live in my neighborhood-ish.

It always makes me laugh. I'm like, oh, man, I wonder if we're going to run into Jay Ferguson at Ella's Uncle or something like that. Which would be awesome. It would be fantastic. Much like it's strange that Biff Naked's in my hood because I think of her as Vancouver, I always think of these guys as Halifax.

Yeah, they all seem like Halifax, even though they've been here for a long time, and they're definitely all Toronto guys. Yeah, I just love them, and I try to support them as much as I can. I love that they're still doing it. Yeah, they're awesome. They're awesome. I got friends who were DJs on Edge 102.1

The Edge throughout the 90s and they would tell you when they had that two minutes to fill before the news break or something. They had two jams they would go to. Do you want to guess the other one? They would go to either The Good and Everyone by Sloan we just heard, which is like two minutes and five seconds or something.

But there's another jam they would always go to, which is a two-minute jam. Do you want to guess what it is? No, I have no... Blur's Song 2. Oh, Song 2, yeah. Another big song of the era. Very quickly, though, just to cap that Sloane thing,

I saw them at the Masonic Temple, now the concert hall, then the concert hall, then the Masonic Temple. And yeah, that would have been about, yeah, about after this album, maybe 96 or something, somewhere in there. They were great. They're always great live. You mentioned you're a Canadian media star

because you say that to explain why you don't like fly your private helicopter or whatever to visit here because you're a Canadian. I want it, yeah. And I get that because I've done 332 of these episodes now. So Sloan's a good example. In my mind, because they

had so many hits and they were such a big part of my youth and I always bought the albums and I would see them in concert. To me, they were a big fucking rock and roll band. Sloan. I'm always shocked that when Chris Murphy visits, he takes the subway. You know what I mean?

Exactly, yeah. He asked me for a couple of bucks so we could get home, you know what I mean? It's amazing being a Canadian rock success, Canada only, it's not like particularly lucrative. But I think those guys have actually done quite well for themselves because they were smart. They kind of, of murder records thing.

They had their own record label at the beginning. I think they've just been smart enough. And they obviously bought property when they were younger. That's almost the biggest thing. Right. Buy property when it's cheap and you might be able to last as a rock band. This next jam, there's actually...

I should have talked to you before, but there's multiple versions, believe it or not. So I hope I didn't screw up, but let's play your next. You'll let me know, obviously. Okay. Let's kick it out. This one is definitely not the one I had envisioned, but let's hear it. Nope. But's hear it. Nope.

But that's okay. I just had the album version. I don't know what this is. This is cool though. I like it. I love it. I apologize though. I apologize, though. No, no, it's good.

It is the song. Is this a remix that we're hearing? I think I had a, you know how you got versions of the CD that were, they had bonus material or whatever? And I chose, I don't know, maybe I chose poorly, but I had three versions of this song, which I should tell people is called the Negotiation Limerick File. What a great name for a song.

It is. And I should have talked to you beforehand and get the right one. But this is your fourth jam, and thank you so much for bringing the Beastie Boys song. I love the Beastie Boys. Yeah. I mean, again, it kind of goes back to when we grew up and 86 License Deal comes out. It goes back to when we grew up and 86 License Deal comes out. And, you know, now the two guys are still alive.

Look back at it with a little disdain, I know. And, you know, it's pretty misogynistic. Well, Girls. Girls was the jam that we used to blare in the car. Yeah. The whole album, you know, got some lyrics that probably wouldn't fly now. But that album was the coolest album of my youth and it's not even close um not even close they were the coolest band of my youth they were the band that was kind of with me 86 or talking i'm 12 years old and then they do paul's boutique when i'm 14 and it's like

a hugely influential thing it's all these samples that you could never clear today. Then it's Check Your Head, which, you know, went back to them playing instruments and that was, you know, I was maybe 15, 16. And it had Pass the Mic and What You Want.

And I thought that video for What You Want where he's wearing the Knicks shirt and it's kind of in slow-mo or whatever, I thought that was the coolest thing ever. The Fish Islands and everything.

And then they did Ill Communication when I was down here at Ryerson. And that Sabotage is on that one. Exactly. Oh, dude. Yeah. And that sabotage is on that one. Exactly. And now this is from Hello Nasty and the reason I picked that is because

at this point I'm finished my Ryerson days. I'm traveling in Europe and this album comes out while I'm in Europe and it's out on CD. So I don't know how I was listening to it. I don't think I walked that time. But I finally got to see them live when I was in

Ireland, Galway, Ireland. And they were the third band on the bill. Like in North America, they would headline, but they were behind Garbage. Yeah. Another big band of the day. Butch Big on drums. Yeah. And the headliners, Pulp.

Galway, Ireland. Pulp. The lead singer from Pulp is Jarvis Pulp The lead singer From Pulp Is Jarvis Big reason why I named my fourth Child Jarvis Amazing

Yeah Great band And great live So anyway And Common People Is still one of the Greatest songs In the history of the world

I mean It's like Finding Goodfellas On cable Once you Once Common People Starts You're in

You're in until the end. The whole story's there. I'll see what I can do. It's such a great jam. But the Beastie Boys, fantastic too. Amazing. Love them. I think they have a new...

I think they have a book coming out this year that Mike D and Ad-Rock, the two remaining Beastie Boys who are still alive. MCA passed away a few years ago with cancer. They have a book coming out this year. Mike D and Ad-Rock, the two remaining Beastie Boys who are still alive. MCA passed away a few years ago of cancer.

They have a book coming out this year so I'm really looking forward to that. That'll be great. You know, I was thinking very quickly

as you queue up the next jam, we were talking about Steve Anthony and Much Music. And I think in the podcast I heard he mentioned

something about Christopher Ward who was a VJ back in the day. The first one. He was the first VJ. He was the first guy on air. He then went on to write for Atlanta Miles and became a record guy. Black Velvet. I'm sure it's paid from any home he's in. I hope so. I hope so. But Steve mentioned, maybe kind of even

in passing, that it was Christopher Ward who's going to write or is writing a much music book. Is it out? Is it done? That shows you how much I know. Mike is literally leafing through a drawer looking for the book right now. 100% it's out. I can lend it to you if you want. And it's probably in my son's. Oh, okay. I need to read it. It's great, yeah. Is it good? Yeah? I like it quite a bit because I had Denise Donlan on too and Denise Donlan also wrote a book. So they both had these books.

But Denise Donlan is more about her experience more and Christopher Ward's is more all about much. But everybody you can think of from like... And I was at the book launch. You just reminded me.

Do you know Joel Goldberg by any chance? Jay Gold. He was known as... But he's the guy... He actually was... Oh, Jay Gold, the music manager? No. No. It's funny. You know, it's funny. That's Jake Goldberg by any chance? Jay Gold, he was known as, but he's the guy, he actually was one of the guys. Oh, Jay Gold, the music manager? No. No. It's funny.

You know what's funny? Jake, that's Jake Gold. Jake Gold, former Tragically Hit manager. Right, right, right. Now manages Splashin' Boots. Splashin' Boots. He manages Splashin' Boots. Boy, Splashin' Boots, their names for their records are so great, like Back in Yellow and Big Yellow Tunes. Which is, yeah, Big Shiny Tunes. That is so brilliant. I know.

I said that to him too. So Splashin' Boots are coming on next week to kick out the jams. Each of them are bringing five jams. Because your three-year-old's a big fan, right? She's a huge fan. So that's pretty incredible. It's funny when you talk to someone whose kids are older or has no kids, and you talk about Splashin' Boots, it's totally off the radar. I have no idea.

But then you talk to somebody with like a three-year-old or a four-year-old, and like I have four years. It's like the Beatles. It's like Paul McCartney is coming over next week. She really loves those guys. But I didn't realize Christopher's book

had come out. What I was thinking is they should have done it as a, you know those oral history type books? They did one for ESPN. They did one for SNL

where the book is essentially just, you know, people who were there at the time, their answers, right? Right. Right. They tell the book is essentially just, you know, people who were there at the time, their answers, right? Right. Right.

They tell the book. It's almost like an audio doc or whatever. That, to me, would have been more interesting because then you would have gotten everyone's voices and you would have got a lot of different stories, right? Do you have a favorite VJ? Because you know who's coming on soon, I get to promote this, is Master T. Oh, nice. And Ed the Sock's been on a few times.

Christopher Ward was on. Denise Donlan was on. Steve Anthony's been on a couple times. Erica M., I talked to her, and she said she is sick and tired of talking about much music. She's happy to come on as long as we don't talk about much.

And I basically gave her a nice smile and thanks anyway. What about Michael Williams? Has he been on? He said he was too busy to come on. He's now going by the name Greybeard, I think that's what

he's going by and he's producing lots of music but he so far has not agreed to come on. He says he's too busy. And J.D. Roberts I guess is probably too busy.

He's in Washington with his buddy Donald. What about Bradford Howe? He came later. Bradford was a good Winnipeg guy. He won the Much Music VJ search.

I always thought he was really great on air actually. What about Bill Wilichka? Yeah good Winnipeg guy. He won the MuchMusic VJ search. I always thought he was really great on air, actually. What about Bill Wilichka? Yeah, Bill is a nice guy. I've met Bill before. He's a Prairies guy, right? I don't think so. I thought he was from Ottawa, but I could be wrong. Oh, maybe you're right. I think he's doing radio in

Kingston or something. I can't remember what Bill's doing. But I always think of the... I mean, that was a big deal to me, these VJs. And also, Monica Dior says she's coming on, but she lives in Vancouver,. I've got to get Bill on. But I always think of the... I mean, that was a big deal to me, these VJs. Yeah. And also, Monica D'Ole says she's coming on, but she lives in Vancouver, and I've got to schedule that. She has like eight kids or something.

Did I ever tell you that... Maybe you've heard this, but Dalton Pompey of the Toronto Blue Jays, his dad was the cowboy dancer on Electric Circus. Wow. I did not know that. And released a single called Summertime, Summertime, which I'm trying to...

And since I discovered this, Dalton hasn't actually had an appearance at the Dome because he got hurt and he's in AAA now. I think he's in Buffalo now. But if he ever does come back and get an at-bat at the Dome, he did agree via Twitter. He did agree that Summertime, Summertime

would be his walk-up. Wow. That would be amazing. Yeah, Electric Circus. And just to tie this up, I have to do this because no one else cares except you. So I have to tell you, that summertime summertime would be his walk-up wow that would be amazing yeah electric circus and just to tie up i have to do this because no one else cares except you so i have to tell you electric circus the one of the security guards that so i mentioned my my friend joel goldberg who was one of the found he just he uh is one of the founders of electric circus is that how you say with kim clark champness and some others but the guy i want to mention is dwight drummond who

is now the anchor for CBC Toronto. He was a security guard for Electric Circus. And because of that, he appears in both the Let Your Backbone Slide video and the Drop the Needle video for My Superfreshman. Both of those videos were directed by Joel Goldberg. Wow. I'm dropping the mic now.

Talk about bringing everything back full circle. Nicely done. You ready for another jam? Yeah, let's do it. Awesome. Thank you. like this guy is so hilarious what a line here it is again Hilarious. What a line. Here it is again, if you missed it. So, like, Dan, I believe it's pronounced Dan Beechard. And this guy is Destroyer. This is Destroyer. This is Destroyer and he's from Vancouver. So he's had all these amazing albums out

and I kind of knew about him but wasn't a huge fan. But for whatever reason, this album and this super glossy production just resonated with me. Perfect for his lyrics. He's a poet, almost as much of a musician, his lyrics. He's a poet, almost as much of a musician,

songwriter. He's a poet. The song's called Kaput. Kaput. Kaput, of course. It's from the album Kaput. And I highly recommend it. I listened to this record a lot

when it came out. A lot. And then I went to see him in concert with my now wife. And we both still talk about it being the most disappointing concert we've ever seen in our lives. It was at Lee's Palace, which I love. Great venue.

And he had a great band with him and he basically stood back to the audience for a good 63% of the show. Why? He's not Bob Dylan. At least if you're Bob Dylan, you can say, well, I'm Bob Dylan.

With lyric sheets. He had lyric sheets. Like, he's a poet. Like, he is a poet. So this was an artistic decision? I just think he just, you know, he's just performing the songs the way he thinks they should be done. There's no regard for the audience. But anyway, it's a great track.

It's a great album, though. And he's put out a couple of great ones since then. If you're so inclined, I encourage you to dig in. It's got a nice vibe to it. This is your first jam I wasn't familiar with, and I did listen to all your jams the other day, and I dig it. I'm digging it.

Yeah, he's cool. And then he's in a band that we have another jam. I think it might be the next jam. He's in that band. You, your wife, you met her at work. Yes, yeah. She was, in another life, she would have been with me when I came for. Yeah. She was in another life she would have been

with me when I came for the first She would have been the Zach. Yeah. She would have been the Zach. She was in the TSN PR department. That's why Zach got that

F out of Dodge. He didn't want to be the next Mr. Honore. That's right. I was getting a bit handsy with Zach. Yeah. You really are hands on

with your PR representative. I guess a little too much. But it's okay if you marry them we can't even joke about this why are we joking about this Zach did not leave it was all above board

I should point out but you married her so it's okay but she doesn't work there anymore no no she is at home with our little friend oh so your daughter is not home alone. Yeah.

Technically, her mom is with her. Her mom should probably be napping. Hopefully, she's getting a nap. I'm happy for you. I was stalking you, and your wife is beautiful, and you got a good life. You got a beautiful daughter, a beautiful wife. You should be very happy. I am very happy.

It took me a while to get there. You're still young enough. Yeah, I think so. But I'm very happy. Thank you for saying that. She's the best. She is the best thing in my life. No question about it. That and Toronto Mike, the podcast, are the two

things that keep you going. Well, it's my wife, my daughter, and then Toronto Mike. That's right. That's right. No, that's great. Little sacks. Little faded out sacks. There you go.

You can probably cast this one and move on to the next one if you want. Is that what you want? It's your jams. You're in charge. Okay. Because I want to see if the next one is what I think it is. You know, Dave Hodge right now, if he's listening, is very upset that I'm doing this. He told me I wasn't allowed to speak over his jams.

Oh, there you go. It's ending anyway. No, I'm fading away. Oh, are you? Oh, I love that. I love that. Oh, I'm very elegant. I don't want to. Yeah, that was good. Thank you. I do lots of things over here, Jay. I'm not just a content producer. I'm impressed. I'm impressed. Yeah, so I didn't intend to do this, but the funny thing is Dan Beechar from Destroyer is in this band, the New Pornographers.

This, though, I believe is a Carl Newman composition. He's sort of the leader of the band. And then Nico Case is in the band. It's like a super group. They're often called an indie rock super group. And they are just the best it's taken magic to a primitive new place watch them run although it's the minimum heroic we hunch together in one chair out on the deck He has a little lisp.

I love hearing it when he sings. Watch and run Although it's The minimum Heroic We quit the room Quit so our thoughts can rest Bless them on loving you That's when we grab the hold And she has the best voice. Here it comes This is fucking epic right here, Mike. My heart. Hey-ya, hey-ya Hey-ya, hey-ya

Hey-ya, hey-ya Hey-ya, hey-ya Hey-ya, hey-ya Hey-ya, hey-ya We have a right to love today. Leading Heart Show. We have a right to love today. Leading Heart Show. The Bleeding Heart Show. What a track.

This jam is all killer, no filler. All their albums are, you know? I like to say, the moment I heard, I heard on the radio Mass Romantic, and I'm like, what the fuck is that? Like, I gotta dive in. It's like the kind of sound you're like, wait, have I not heard these guys before?

Who are they? You want to jump into it right away. All their albums are great. This is from Twin Cinema. It's their third album. It's fantastic. And then on top of it, going back to the Phoenix, saw these guys there with my ex-wife. I have one of those too.

A few lots in common. And then saw them at the Sound Academy, which I think is called Rebel now. Yep. Later on. They are so good live. And you don't always get the whole band, right? Sometimes you don't get Dan Beechar.

It's almost like Broken Social Scene. Kind of like that. Yeah, Carl Newman's always there. But if I could just recommend one band to see live out of all these jams, I can't recommend new pornographers enough they are so great live so um yeah great band great canadian group great although i don't i don't believe nico case is canadian she's not no she's not but she we like

adopted her like she's sort of uh i know we've taken her under our wing uh but uh i think she has a new record coming out soon. Great voice. Blacklisted. If you ever see that record by her, the voice will just knock you on your ass. It's unreal. Let's kick out your seventh jam. ស្រូវានប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្រាប់ពីប្ guitar solo

No light green wings This summer hell no hearts This is my favorite band in the last 10 years. Wow. Real estate. They're from Ridgewood, New Jersey, which I've learned later is an affluent suburb in New Jersey. It's where Tony Soprano lived. There you go.

I don't know. I made that up. Is that where he... He lived in New Jersey. I knew he lived in Jersey. And he lived in an affluent community. Maybe it was Ridgewood. I don't know. um it was three guys who went to high school there martin courtney uh alex bleeker and matt mondonnelly and they were the core of the band um up until the last album where mondonnelly was kicked out of the band for reasons we don't have to get into but

um these guys came along you know there's bands mike you're almost like in your mind you're like searching for a specific sound you're like i wish a band would come along and play songs like this and then i heard these guys and i was like that's what i've been looking for my whole life i've been looking for a band that would play music like this um He has a great voice. Their two guitars just meld so nicely together. It's obviously super chill. It's really, for a lot of people, these guys are too chill.

But I listen to Real Estate more than any other band in the last 10 years. No question. And I just, I think they're amazing. I love them. And this jam is called younger than yesterday which is a birds song and album um like i i don't know i don't know why it's called that but and that's also uh it's not possible to be younger than yesterday no it really isn't it's hurting my brain thinking about it i think that was the idea. I was lucky enough to introduce these guys

when they played the Opera House a few years ago. I was living in L.A. at the time, and I happened to be up for the weekend, and I kind of got to know them a little bit, and they said, will you come introduce us? And I said, sure, I'd love to. That's amazing. So then I had to, I rehearsed it a little bit,

and afterward, Matt Coleman, the keyboard player, said, did you rehearse that, the keyboard player, said, Did you rehearse that? And I said, No. That's funny. Yeah, they have... The guitars are really what makes this band, because the lead guitar, which was Matt Mondonnelly and now is Julian Lynch, is as much a part of the melody as anything,

as opposed to being, you know, something that comes in on a solo. It's mostly part of the melody and just adds to it. I saw him play at Coachella last year to a near-empty tent. I felt so bad. You're a cool guy doing all this cool stuff. No, not really. I just live two hours away. At the time,

it seemed like I'd be crazy not to go. So do you still get out to lots of shows? I don't as much anymore just because of the hours. You know, I don't get to... I was going to say, yeah, you...

That's right, because you work at night. There's a band playing this Tuesday at the Garrison on Dundas in Ossington. Okay, ready? I saw a band at the Garrison Saturday night. No way. Who did you see?

Acid Test. Oh, that was Acid Test. They were at the Garrison, yeah. Wow. And I like that location because it's a very short bike ride for me. Oh, yeah. That would be very close for you. It's a fun venue.

There's a band from Australia called Rolling Blackout's Coastal Fever. I really think they're going to be big. You're cooler than me. These are bands I never heard of. They're going to be big. And they have a new album out, and they're playing the Garrison on Tuesday. I can't go because I'm working, and I'm bummed out about it. But I am going to see Stephen Malkmus of Pavement, speaking of the 90s,

at Lee's Palace in June sometime and that's that's going to be good you know most of the although there's a few exceptions most of the concert venues are west of Yonge

that's true Opera House would be an exception Danforth Music Hall and technically although it's closing soon but for a little bit but Massey Hall

is technically east of Yonge just a little bit tiny bit you ready for what number are we on here? You ready for your eighth jam? Yeah, man.

This is so much fun. There's a story behind this one. Ha! I don't want control of you Doesn't matter to me Very hard to control of you Places I want to see Every day I look in a different face Feelings getting stronger with every phrase

Scottish power pop legends, teenage fan clubs. I was the guy when Nevermind came out and Spin didn't name it Album of the Year. They named Bandwagon-esque by Teenage Fan Club Album of the Year. I was the guy who was like, they got it right. They always were ridiculed for it.

I was like, no, Van Wagen-esque is the greatest album of the year. That was an amazing record. I loved those guys back then. And finally got to see them at The Horseshoe maybe four or five years ago. The Horseshoe. What an experience that was, seeing those guys after all those years. That was one thing about Toronto, Mike, I was going to say.

Yeah, me too. Growing up in Edmonton, you would either get the biggest bands in the world, right? You'd get the Fleetwood Macs and Motley Crue's, or you'd get nobody's essentially. You'd never get the middle. Because they can't afford to do that. They can't do the prairies

they could do toronto they could do vancouver they could do montreal so coming to toronto opening up now magazine going to the concert listings and just being like what t.l. chankov is coming to toronto like it just blew my mind uh as a music lover how many more bands I could see here. And finally seeing these guys live, it was a ways later, but I love it. But one of the reasons I put this on, this specific song, is this is my daughter's favorite song. Oh, wow. And we listen to it constantly. I don't know how she came to love this song so much.

That's a pretty cool selection for a three-year-old. Yeah, she dug. I think it's like kids like melodies and these guys are all about melodies and their voices sound good. It's not that far off from Splashin' Boots. Don't.

I told Splashin' Boots they have some songs I did. These are pop hits. If you just change it up a little. F-O-O-D. Food Alphabetically. I'm going to definitely tell them you said hi.

They said one of their jams will be dedicated to you. Oh, gosh, that's so cool. Yeah, Teenage Fan Club. Check them out. And when your daughter's listening to Teenage Fan Club, just don't confuse things and give her teenage head. No, no, I wouldn't do that. I don't want to do that. Now, the next album,

I should say, is that's her favorite song this is her favorite album yeah Shay is dancing right now. I just want people to know. I mean, how can you not? He's only human after all Pharrell On vocals Who's ageless by the way

He looks He is our age And he looks He really does look 10 years younger than me At least I like that nerd song Rockstar

Yeah I love that album I have that album I, Rockstar. Yeah, I love that album. I have that album. I loved it. The Neptunes. That's it, yeah. Yeah, the Neptunes. Him and Chad Hugo. Every hit of the early aughts

was produced by those guys. But this is, of course, Daft Punk from Random Access Memories, which my daughter calls The Robots. Yes. And she says,

can we play The Robots? And I'm like, yep, let's throw that on. And we listen to this a lot. Continuing my journey through Toronto, I used to be cool hanging out at PM Toronto.

I can't even say that. And now I'm hanging out with my daughter at home all day. And this is what we're listening to. But you've never been richer or happier. You're living the life. A thousand percent. No, everything's going great.

And I couldn't be going better, really. I don't think the TSN or I should say, I don't think Bell Media has ever spent more money on the PR and the marketing of the launch of a show. It's true. I've never seen anything like that blitz. It was a lot. It was a lot. Yeah, I appreciate it.

You know, because in some ways I think it made up for a complete lack of promotion in PR for the 15 years previous. But no, we absolutely appreciate it. But others at TSN must have been jealous. Somebody must have been like, oh wow, there he is on another billboard or whatever.

I don't know. It's a good question. I hope not. Everyone at TSN kind of gets along great. I noticed this. I've had a lot of TSN people here. Yeah. There's not much.

There's not many bad feelings anywhere at TSN. And plus, there's a lot of people I never get to see. Even Duffy. We saw him last night for the first time in like six months. Because he's out in a different studio and we're just never interacting. We're in our own studio now. So we used to be in the newsroom. We'd see all the

SportsCenter anchors. I haven't seen any of the SportsCenter anchors. You know, Laura Dykin's dad lives across the street. No way! And Laura is so cool. She has, I think she lives in the junction or something like that. Actually, it's funny. She lives, like, I'd say a 16-second walk from the house I lived in before this one. Oh, wow.

That's so cool. It's pretty close to the junction. Not quite, but it is. Oh, okay. Yeah, somewhere in that area. Very hip. She's hipper than I am. I get the vibe. every once in a while like

i'll see her visiting her like her dad across the street and i'll be like that's one cool chick that she is she i didn't know her before i came back um she was hired when we were down in la and yeah i think she's she's awesome and if i may say since we're talking tsn while daft punk plays which is great um kayla gray had a baby she did she was on the show and i just want to say uh congrats to And if I may say, since we're talking TSN while Daft Punk plays, which is great, Kayla Gray had a baby. She did. And she was on the show. And I just want to say congrats to Kayla.

She had a baby boy. And Kayla, my wife and I were talking about Kayla yesterday because Kayla is like already back on TV. I did hear this. She just had the kid. Yeah. She's amazing. What does that say, though?

Because you can say that's amazing. You can also say that they just work her so hard at Dell Media they didn't give her a year to relax. It's all Kayla. I know. This is all Kayla.

She's a go-getter, you know, but I'm really happy for her because I think she's a real talent and so I think that it's good that she's back.

I hope she's taking time for herself and her family. It is very early because my, you know, our parents' generation

complained like, oh, I only had, I don't know, 16 weeks or something. I mean, my wife took all four times there was a year of mat leave.

So that's four years in total for four kids, two different women. But anyway, lots of mat leave now. I think we're going to make it like 18 months soon. Exactly.

When is that happening? It's the same money. I understand it'll be the same money you get through 12, but they'll spread it out to 18. That's cool. But hey, it gets you, yeah. Because daycare, and you're lucky that your wife is home with your child.

Yeah. Because I have two kids in daycare right now. It's why I'm penniless, I'm telling you. And when they're 18 months or younger, it's the ratio of like, what are they called? Teachers? Whatever they are. Daycare provider people to children. It's such that it's crazy expense for an under 18 month old. Yeah, it's like a mortgage payment at this point.

Oh, more than that. Yeah. And I mean, I remember when we were in LA, one of our wardrobe people, because we had wardrobe people. Nice. wardrobe people because we had wardrobe people. Nice. She had a baby

and she was back in six weeks. Not because the company told her she had to be back but because well, she wasn't being paid, right?

Yeah. If you want to keep working here you have to come back. That's America. When I told her about the year when I told everyone down there about the year Matt leaves

they're just floored. Just floored. Everyone thought everyone thinks we basically live in a very socialist country. Thank goodness. Which, based on the LCBOs, I would actually have to agree. That's the thing I couldn't believe

when I got back here. Why do we still have the LCBO? Why don't we have... Why have we... You want it to be like Quebec or whatever? Yeah, or Alberta. Why do we just accept it to be like Quebec or whatever? Yeah, or Alberta Why do we just accept it like This is fine So Alberta you can buy it in like

No competition We're good with that Why are we good with that? I know someone from the LCBO Who has a super great job at the LCBO Is really mad at hearing that right now But I just don't understand Why that's still a government thing And then the weed shops are gonna be government like why

yeah definitely it's gonna be yeah it's a brave new world i don't know what to say i know i got no answers i know i can buy beer at my metro now that's cool yeah yeah but they have a lot of like rules i guess in terms of i guess you can only get six pack or uh yeah i don't even know i mean it's the selection's good and the LCBOs are good. That's the thing about even the weed shops. Like someone was like, well, I'm not going to be able to get the weed. Well, that I want. Well,

the thing with the LCBOs, they're not dumb, right? They will get the Great Lakes beers in the LCBO because they know people want them, right? So they're going to have every type of weed you want at the weed shop. But the selection isn't my argument. I just don't understand why it hasn't been opened up like it is in Alberta and Quebec

because, I don't know, this is a free market economy, isn't it? I know. I hear you. I hear you. Will there be, I don't know the answer, will there be edibles at these cannabis shops? I would assume so, but I don't know. I don't know. Because I haven't heard anything about edibles. I don't know the answer, will there be edibles at these cannabis shops? I would assume so, but I don't know. I don't know. Because I haven't heard anything about edibles. I don't like the idea of smoking things. It's just a thing.

I just don't want to ingest things. Edibles are freaky, though, because to me they stay with you so much longer. Like the next day I'll wake up and I'll be like, yeah, I'm still a little out of it right now. That's me after the Raptors game last night. Are you ready to kick out your final jam? Wow, it's almost over.

I'm still laying in the bed And I thought I could never stay I'd feel stuck in one place Then you came along And all of that changed I got these visions keep coming up coming up

that I can't shake all day all day I got these visions keep coming up coming up so I'll wait now if time

is what it takes I'll be here I'll be here. I'll be waiting for you. I don't need a break. No tears. Always in your corner, you know. I'll be waiting for you, you know.

Always yours. My heart's always yours. My heart's always yours, Jay. That's the Arkells. Yeah. Hamilton, Ontario zone. Well, they met. They met at McMaster. Right.

So they are a Hamilton man, but like Max Kerman, who's a fantastic voice you hear there, grew up not far from where I live now. I'm basically in the annex. Tell us, what is your home address again? I'm near. I live at Bar Isabel, basically.

These guys are so cool and such a good bunch of guys. I got to sit in. I never had a chance to do this before. I know Dave Hodge probably does this every week, four times a week. But I got to sit in on a recording session for these guys about a month ago. Man, they're just the nicest dudes. And you want to root for them, right? You want them to be even bigger, right?

I met him at a Pizza Hut just when, oh, the boss is coming was uh kind of coming out like the very beginning of like the rkl's phenomenon or whatever i met him at a pizza hut in mississauga just hanging out yeah i was with somebody who knew them from mcmaster or something but uh yeah who by the way she's from this woman i'm speaking of uh who i was with uh is from orno oh wow there's like what 20 people bringing it back to the orno connection with Tulsi. I will say, my wife and I, when we got married, we didn't have a wedding song. We were like, kind of last minute, we were like, what are we going to dance to for the first time?

But we don't have a song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think we picked Al Green. Stay Together. Let's Stay Together. From the Pulp Fiction soundtrack. No, it wasn't that, was it? No.

I can't even remember. I'm so in love with you. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, maybe that's it. Let's stay together. Yeah, maybe that's it. To the good, the bad, the ugly and sad. Yeah.

Yeah, that's it. That's what we did. So that shows you how much, how significant it was because I can't even remember. So how long have you been married now? We've been married since 2013. Okay, you know what? I got married in 20... I'm five years in June.

Come on. I'm dead serious. Five years in June. Amazing. What month were you married? Say June. October 18th. Oh, I've been married longer than you have.

But my... Just while we're talking, my first dance song with my beautiful wife was Long Time Running by the Tragically Hip. Oh, that's a good one. Very good one.

See, but what I was going to say is, if we were getting married today, this would be our song. Yeah, you and I, which we can do here. Thank God. We live in a great country. This would be our song for sure. My heart is always yours.

Yeah, this would be our song. We're both big Arkells fans. I love these guys. I root for them hard, and I love the fact that they seem to be blowing up. Like, people are talking about the Arkells. Yeah. Not just Dave Hodge anymore.

That's right. Well, they were on, Max and Nick, the bass player, they were on our show very early on. And I asked Max, are you guys the biggest band in Canada right now? And he joked and he said, oh, of course we are. But then, very quickly, the next day, Gord Downie passed away. We had taped that interview.

It didn't air live. We had taped it to run the day after. So, they're on. We joke. We say, are you the biggest fan in Canada?

Max jokes back, says, of course we are. Gord passes away the next day. Max immediately contacts me and says, can you take that out? Because I don't want to disres... That's how great of a guy he is, right? He remembered what he had said. And even though he was joking, and it was very clear that he was joking,

you know, he made sure he took it out. You know, so, yeah, just love those guys. I think they're great. Great. That was so much fun, buddy. You love those guys. I love you, Jay. I love That was so much fun, buddy. You love those guys. I love you, Jay. I love you.

I love you too, Mike. This was great. We need to do this more often. Can you believe that was two hours? Did that feel like two hours? I thought it was going to be an hour. I'm in big trouble. By the way, let me know when you want to schedule a play date.

I got the two and the four and you got the three. They could all like glob on together. That would be a blast. And we can play Daft Punk. Oh, the robots. Yeah, we'll play the robots. That's right. And that brings us to the end of our 330 second show.

You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Jay, remind me, what's your Twitter handle? Oh, it's just that. Jay Onright. Perfect. You're smart to get that ground floor. Great Lakes Brewery

are at Great Lakes Beer. Propertyinthe6.com is at Raptor's Devotee. He's very sad today, though. Very sad, as you heard. Yeah, you better check up on him. I'm going to. I'm going to. Paytm is at Paytm Canada, and Camp Turnasol is at Camp Turnasol. See you all next week.

And I don't know what the future can hold or will do for me and you but I'm a much better man for having known you oh you know that's true because