Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jeff Lumby Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1007

Episode Date: March 3, 2022

In this 1007th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with Jeff Lumby who moved to France during this pandemic. Then they play Jeff's 10 favourite songs of all time while Jeff tells us why he loves that jam. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and RYOBI Tools.

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It's great to be here. Now, just before we get going. Yeah. Sorry, did you say episode 1,007? That's correct, my friend. Because I was told... Okay, just a second. I got to stop here.

Hang on. I was told this was 1,000. Hang on. Hang on. Just a second. Second. Fire on. Hang on a second. Hang on. Just a second. Second. Fire agent. Okay.

Okay. Is that agent your wife? I'm just curious. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's going to be a little harder. Harder than I thought.

Okay. Well, Jeff, since you mentioned episode 1,000, I just want to thank you because the very first voice people hear when they tune into the 5 hour and 40 minute extravaganza that is episode 1000, it's your voice. So thank you for recording that special intro to episode

1000. Well, and thank you for the plug. I listened to a bit of it. I confess I didn't listen to all 5 hours. What did you have? Some 200 voices on that podcast? There's 200 unique voices on that episode. Fantastic. And yours is my pleasure. It was my pleasure. You know, you, you put the call out and boy, people sure responded, huh? Well, I loved what you did, but I just want to, you know, point something out because you know, that's, I'm just going to be a

jerk here. Uh, you got the date wrong of the very first episode. You were close, but you were off by a week. So I don't know where you pulled that date. You said, you know,'s i'm just gonna be a jerk here uh you got the date wrong of the very first episode you were close but you were off by a week so i don't know where you pulled that date you said you know on this right off your right off your wrong your incorrect website buddy okay so maybe i'm trying to think that's 10 years ago now did i record and then drop it later okay so maybe you got maybe the publication date was different than the recording date because the recording date was uh not that you remember the date you said in that intro but the recording date was different than the recording date. Because the recording date was, not that you remember the date you said in that intro, but the recording date was actually August 28, 2012. It was published

in September. Alright, so that means episode one didn't drop right away like this one will. But speaking of like, you know, gaps in the recording schedule, do you know your first appearance on Toronto Mic Mic was way back in November 2015?

No. I didn't know it was that long ago. I'll just read the description because if people are joining us and they want to hear the A to Z of Lumbee's life and time. Because honestly, Jeff, an unsung hero in the Canadian media landscape. You've done so many different

forget just not just red green, but if you go back and, and your radio career, I think it's like people would love to hear episode 140. Mike chats with actor Jeff Lumby about his role on the red green show, his voiceover work, his many radio gigs, including mornings that you did mornings on the fan five 90 for a summer.

And we, that's all in episode 140. Yeah, that, that was, I gotta say, uh, Don Collins hired me just temporarily to get them through the summer for fun.

And that was the hardest radio and the most, um, anxious, some of the most anxious moments I ever had, because it is difficult doing uh news talk is difficult but sports talk i mean these are trekkies who like athletics right okay right i mean you know you you would say something like you know albert pooh holes is hitting 318 uh this and there'll be a phone call ah jeff no it's three he's hitting 321 he's hitting 318. And there'll be a phone call.

Ah, Jeff, no, he's hitting 321. He's hitting 321 because you didn't include last night's at-bats. Okay. Oh, thank you, Desmond. Yeah, so that was very difficult. And you have to have such a historical sports background to really handle that properly. So that was an eye opener. And it's a lot of work. Like if you have to know, like, I don't know, the, the, uh, the full roster

of an NFL team or something like that's a lot of homework you got to do. Who has time for that? Right. Well, it's beyond that. You have to know who, you know, uh, who the Leafs got in the trade with Calgary for Doug Gilmore. Like, you know, you have to know all that stuff. I think I might know that one, actually. But and remind me, you were warming the bench there. There was a summer replacement gig because Andrew Crystal was coming. Is that the guy who took over? Yeah, that worked out well. I was going to say, they should have just kept Lumbee. That didn't. No, no. You know what? It really required someone. I mean, I'm a sports fan, but you need to be a sports professor to do that job properly. I mean, to me, there's one guy. His name is Mike Richards. That's the guy for that job in the country because he combines an amazing sports knowledge with amazing betting knowledge and the ability to do a, an entertaining morning show.

And, you know, those, you don't just pluck people out of a newspaper, uh, or, or out of a school to do that. It's just, he's got crazy knowledge of that. That's the guy for that job. I'm a big, I'm a big Mike Richards fan. So no argument for me. I think, I think he's fantastic. And he's also, I consider him one of like the great guests, any podcast could ever

have because he just shoots from the hip and he goes like, you know, no bullshit. He's not going to sugarcoat anything. He just, he just goes and it's thoroughly entertaining. Yeah. And, and you know what? Uh, I worked with Mike at Y95 for all those years and just his detail to professionalism in a strange way. You know, like I'd come in with all the notes off of the computer and his bits were written on a firkin' coaster. You know?

The fire and the firkin', sure. By the way, so Jeff, just so you know, we're going to play a lot of songs. I don't have the license to play. That's a whole separate episode maybe. But so we're not putting this anywhere near Facebook because they'll kill it right away. They'll be like coming after me. So it's actually right now we're on the pirate stream, which doesn't record and only, you know, it's for like diehard FOTMs. You want to watch us bake this cake. But I just saw a comment over on the Pirate Stream, which is live.torontomike.com, from Stephanie Wilkinson. She's a big Lumbee fan from the Y95 days. Yeah, Stephanie, she's a Facebook friend. She lives out in Oakville. Yeah, right.

So shout out to Steph, who's kind of watching us bake this cake. Hi, Stephanie. So let's not bury the lead here. We're going to kick out the jams. But as I speak to you now, you sound great on Zoom. But where the hell are you in the world right now, Jeff Lumby? I'm in southwest France, my friend. Wow.

Yeah. Are you there on vacation? Just a little trip? We're moving here, man. We've moved here, essentially. And it has been quite the adventure, quite the adventure. And so we've decided to do a podcast about it. And it's funny, I've been out of radio for probably six years now or so. It was probably close to when I did

your podcast in 2015 that I was inching my way out of the business. And since then, I've been trying to find something to talk about and some creative outlet. I mean, I do my little dog. I also volunteer for Straight Paws from Greece. Those who know me know that I make the dog adoption videos for, for the rescue. Uh, and that's fun. And that keeps, keeps me in a, in a, in a creative mode, but I've really wanted to do something, uh, from a broadcast point of view. And Julie is, is so sharp and has, has picked this up so well. So we've got this, I think it's a very informative podcast it's also you get to laugh at our expense from the mistakes that we've made in this adventure now jeff i've been i've been listening so i know

it's tough to toot your own horn because it's like of course you think your podcast is great because you're jeff lumby and you're half of the production team there so i'll just point out julie though is your wife right so it's jeff and jul, that's you and your wife up and moved to France during this global pandemic. And you have a new podcast where you tell all the details. The whole sordid tale is in this podcast, which people can subscribe and listen to right now. It's called Jeff and Julie moved to France and then in parentheses during a global pandemic.

So, Jeff, I've been listening because I helped you out a bit getting this going. Yes, and thank you very much. I think I'm your first subscriber, to be quite honest. I don't know if I get a sticker for that. Thank you, sticker you. But I've been listening and both of you are great on the show. I enjoy how you put it together, but the stories are fantastic because it's almost like uh when i listen i think like oh my god like note to self don't ever do this like it just sounds well and i'm not saying don't ever move to france it's just don't do some of the things that we did and and we're happy to point all this stuff out. The red tape administration, call it what you will, in France is legendary. It will never be topped anywhere in the world.

There's no country going to beat down France for their administration. So that has been a large nightmare. We're getting there, though. We're getting there. So I do urge people to get all the details in there. And you're, you're, I think you're seven episodes deep.

Am I right? Or did I? Yeah, we've got, we've got 10 in the can and we have, we, we have seven published. And we don't see an end to,

to the legs of this thing. We really don't. And one other note. So I'm listening and I always feel like there should be like a caveat because I'm listening so you sell a place in Ontario, you buy a place in France, you have to move, you've got a couple of dogs that move with you

like there's a whole, you mentioned all the red tape, but there's a whole bunch of logistics here. Of course, there's a pandemic just a massive curveball. Yeah, just to throw that into the works. Right, but I also I'm listening, I'm thinking, oh it feels this sport you're in, this whole up and move and you're going to be there into the works right but i also i'm listening i'm thinking oh it feels this this sport you're in this whole up and move and you're going to be there for the rest of your life is that fair to say like you're not there for an that's the plan okay well hopefully it's

a long time but uh shout out to ridley funeral home but uh hopefully it's a long time but i'm listening to your and i do enjoy your podcast again that's that's legit but uh i think oh this is a rich person's game like i'm listening to like this this was this an expensive endeavor like is it like you guys you know if you're if you're month to month this is not the game for you no no no if you're check to check well no i mean we did well with our property right and then we bought we bought a fixer upper property here. So we're hopefully just about done the fixering and the upper ring. And we're going to start with the living soon.

But yeah, that's that's kind of what we did. You know, we we we had a lot of equity in our our our farmhouse in Brockwood and And we had planned a retirement. You know, this is retirement time, man. Right. No, man. Listen, since I helped you with the podcast, at some point will I be invited to visit you in France? That's what I really needed to know.

I was going to say. I was going to say you have an open invitation. We have a little guest house for you. Well, I'm thinking if Humble and Fred and I go together, maybe we broadcast from France for a week. Maybe then there's a, maybe we could write it off or something. Write it off. What a great idea.

I could be your guest every morning. I'm full of you. Absolutely. I'm full of these good ideas. Maybe we'll bring your buddy Dan Duran with us. So it's the full. Okay, that's enough. That's enough.

He'll drink all the wine in France, I think is the problem there. So in my fridge. Okay, so quick question. Now we're going to get into these jams and then we're going to get to know you better because every time I kick out the jams of someone, I learn more about them than I did from their initial deep dive. So I'm looking forward to this.

But I just want to ask you, I know you're a handy guy because I remember when Humble and Fred were building their first studio, you were like a guy who could come in and you were just a good, you know, a good handy guy, if you will. So when you're, you talk about a fixer-upper, are you doing all the work yourself or do you got help there in French?

Oh, no, no. There's certain things I can do, but no, no, this was a full renovation and the large part of it happened while we were still back in Canada. So we had to put our trust in the hands of Ian, who is an expat from Scotland who works here and is just, he was just sent from God because he was able to manage a lack of materials, a lack of trades people during a pandemic and get this

thing done. But I am building a huge workshop here now that you mentioned it. And I was helped. I did a lot of the work on that. Okay. So really, I want to just shout out the newest sponsor of Toronto Mic'd. I made the announcement on April. What is this? This is not April.

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in this family, like I help out and I think I get in the way more than anything, but she's, she's building, you know, you know, like a loft bed for the kids and, and doing all this woodworking and she swears by the Ryobi system. So I just want to thank Ryobi for being on board because in future episodes this month, I'm going to be having very brief chats with my wife. I know you have a podcast with your wife, Julie. I'm going to have exchanges with my wife, Monica, about why she loves the Ryobi 18-volt 1-plus tools and chargers. So I just wondered. Well, I think they sell them here in France.

Hello, nudge, nudge. I think they sell it all here in France. Well, they're listening. So yeah, you're a handy guy. So shout out to Ryobi. So, Jeff, do you want to just start kicking out the jams and we'll kind of talk while we do this? Yeah, because I know this is a weird list of music.

I know you're probably just going, oh, no, I don't judge the list. No, no, no, I know. But let me just start by saying that it is so hard. Anybody who's done this with you should know, and especially somebody like me who's really into a lot of different kinds of music. It's almost impossible to find your top 10 songs. So in my case, yes, these are in my top group, but they represent different like either genres times in my life influences so you know as we get into this we will we'll i think you'll have a pretty good sense of what music i

like well which is which i love and i never i never judge somebody's jams because your jams are your jams i mean i am so subjective that's right yeah nothing's more subjective than art right so we're gonna basically uh i don't know if you've heard a jam kicking before but i'm gonna play the song and then i might i might depends on my mood i might let it go 45 seconds or so and then i'll bring her down and then we're gonna hear you talk about it and then we're gonna have a chat is that cool that's perfect man can't wait all right let's kick out jeff lumps actually let me get back it's been a while since i did a jam kick. I have to ask you one more important question before I begin.

Sure. Jeff Lumby, are you ready to kick out the jams? I'm ready to kick out the jams, motherfucker! Thank you. Jeff, so these are your jams. You can order me, like, turn this part up or bring whatever you want. So I'm going to bring her down just to hear from you. But anytime you want me to turn up the heat here, just let me know. Well, this is Pat Metheny. Just one of my absolute go-to favorite artists in the world.

Sort of discovered him in the very early 80s. A roommate of mine was a fan and got me on to Pat Metheny. And then when I moved to Montreal, he was a big part of the Montreal Jazz Festival. And then when I moved to Montreal, he was a big part of the Montreal Jazz Festival and, you know, worked with guys like Jacko Pistorius, who is like legendary, probably the world's greatest bass player. I think that's inarguable. He played with Weather Report and, you know, it just it represents a genre of jazz that I love. I was I was debating, oh, which song is going to be first circle? I was debating, oh, which song? Is it going to be First Circle?

Is it going to be Are You Going With Me? Which is the first song that I remember hearing from Pat Metheny. But, you know, along with Lyle Mays, who unfortunately died a few years ago, beautiful piano player, they just created so much beautiful music. I've got every album. I mean, I don't know what else there is to say about Pat Metheny. I've seen him at uh Massey Hall I've seen him uh in in Montreal and in the street in Montreal he used to packs they used to do the concert in St. on St. Catherine Street in Montreal

for the jazz festival and it was just the most incredible night amazing love it uh so just to let people know exactly what we're listening to now, what is the name of this song? This is First Circle from the album of the same name. And this just goes everywhere. I mean, this has such a huge, as you noticed, it starts off very soft. I like music that transitions. You'll hear that throughout my kick out the jams. And this just, by the time this ends, the crescendo at the end, it doesn't even resemble the beginning. Yeah, it's a long one too,

but I feel like we can chat about a few things while we wait for that end, and then I can just bring her up and we can let it take us home, which would be cool. First circle. Okay, so how, okay. I'm just trying to get a gauge of how settled in you are there in your new home. So how long have you been living in your new home in France? Just over, well, we got here mid-October 2020.

Okay. Okay. Now my brain has to do some math here. Okay. Okay. So that's like, i don't know a little less a year and four months year and five months gotcha okay so is it fair to say uh you're unpacked and pretty settled in now yeah it is and then once we get all of our legal stuff like our cards our

health card uh we just got our residency status mailed to us last week that was a big exciting thing seeing as it took better part of seven months. The health card is next. Driver's licenses are still up in the air. I mean, we're allowed to drive, but that's such a long story you don't even want to hear about. You'll hear it on the podcast. You'll hear it on the podcast.

Now, did you buy a car there, or did you bring a car? How did it work with the automobiles? We got a couple of cars here, yeah. So you bought them there, though? are, yeah, yeah. We bought them there. Uh, we tried to bring one here. Uh, that will be episode number, uh, that'll be episode number 10. It was a very painful episode for my wife, a very painful episode. Okay. So I'll look forward to hearing the,. Chapter 10. And I guess, since you guys are Canadians who lived your whole life in Canada, and now you've been in France for a year and four months,

is there any inkling at all, like any sparkle even, maybe in Julie's eyes or in yours, that has like, oh, I miss Canada, or any sign of even a little bit of regret? I guess I'm curious. You still all in there? Yeah. First of all, the only thing that prevents us from not being all in is the administration of getting settled because everything else is a no brainer for us. Again, not for everybody. But, you know, I was sick of winter.

And just so you know, three days ago, I was cutting the grass. So what is the temp right now? Like as we so I know it's 10 a.m. Our times. What are you? You're six hours ahead. Yeah, it's a little cooler today. It was like 14 today, but it was 18 for two days in a row there.

Yeah. And we're within the next couple of weeks, we're going to be into the low 20s. Okay, so Jeff, just to get, so yesterday was one of the warmer days we've had in 2022. And I actually had a moment where, oh, do I bike in shorts today?

But I think it was five degrees, maybe we're talking about five degrees. Oh, that's exciting. See, for me, I just don't ever want to see another snowflake again. And I don't mean that in a derogatory term. But I just don't. You know what? 60 plus years in, you know, and a lot of them in Saskatchewan and Alberta and Manitoba.

So I've had it with the cold and the snow. For the last 20 or so, let's hope I got 20 more in me. I want to enjoy more than three or four months of the year. Okay, and since you mentioned Montreal, where you've seen this great artist we've got in the background here, shortly I'll be turning it up to hear the big finish.

But I know that Montreal is where you're teamed up with Humbleard glassman because you guys are on the radio and just again we covered this we first visit we've had a bit of like i think howard remembers it slightly different but just definitively for the record once again were you invited to come to toronto to be a part of the cfny morning show with Humble Howard? No. Well, so I still have no recollection of a meeting and I just don't. I mean, I know that there was some talk and I and I know there was a dinner that I was in at, but I don't remember it because there were three other people there to tell me that I was at this dinner.

And I know there was, no, and it's funny because I just don't remember the specifics. I do remember saying, I'm happy here. I just met Julie. But there was not a firm offer on the table for me to go to them. There was not a firm offer. It's funny how Howard remembers that as you turning it down. Well, I do remember saying, I mean, I do remember

saying that I'm happy here. You're happy, yeah. You just met Julie? Sure. But this was not like a, you know, here's the offer on a piece of paper with a number, and it was none of that that I remember. Well, let's let this big finish happen in the first circle and then we'll bleed right into your second jam here.

Okay, man. Yeah, he's a great band live. Fantastic. Oh, baby. Give me some of that blue eye Philly soul. This doesn't get any more beautiful than this right here. Oh, this doesn't get any more beautiful than this right here. I'm a huge Paul and Oaks fan. But moreover, they represent with this song the Harold Melvins of the world, Teddy Pendergrass, Billy Paul, OJ, Spinners, Stylistics, all that great soul music.

I love this song. It ain't a sign of weakness, girl To give yourself away Because the strong give up and move on While the weak, the weak give up and stay So do what you wanna do, what you wanna do, what you wanna do, what you wanna do But be what you wanna do, what you wanna do, what you wanna do But be what you are Be what you are Do what you wanna do

But be what you are Be what you are So smooth. Wow. Well, and you know what? You're going to notice there are quite a few songs from the 70s in my kick out the jams. And, you know, like this song came out when i graduated from high school it was a i don't know it was just a big influence when i realized i was just really into soul and funk which we're going to get into and i this song to me just and i'm you know oh and by the way i got into uh

daryl hall had this uh did did you ever check out that podcast with Daryl? Live from Daryl's house. Yeah, live from Daryl's house. I so wish that was still around. You know, Jeff, I'm going to let you finish, as Kanye would say, because I want to hear more about you and Daryl and Hall & Oates, but I will tell you that without a doubt

there's been a resurgence later, like sort of a revisiting of Hall & Oates and a new appreciation for Hall & Oates, but I will tell you that without a doubt there's been a resurgence later, like sort of a revisiting of Hall & Oates and a new appreciation for Hall & Oates I've sensed in the last decade or so. Where I think they went through a little bit of like, oh, maybe that, I think the Zeitgeist maybe that was seen a little bit, maybe cheesy or

somehow it's been sort of like, wait a minute, we were way wrong about these guys. This is damn cool. And it's interesting interesting it could be taken that way uh but not a song like this that a song like this is just it's so difficult but yet it's also so full of soul like it's not uh it came off this is the same album bigger than both of us that rich girl was on wow right yeah and rich girl is one of the jams, I think, that started to revitalize Hall & Oates

with the youngsters, with the millennials and younger because Rich Girl sort of had a, became a big hit again about 10, 15 years ago in these circles. Wow. Yeah, no, they're well-deserved. Their recognition is well-deserved. And I don't know.

He's got such an angelic... They both got beautiful voices. But Daryl Halls in particular is just something. And what they do with their harmonies, I don't know. It's untouchable. So I just want to share with you, my friend, this might be embarrassing,

but I'm a bit younger than you, so maybe it won't be embarrassing. But I grew up where a big hit on the radio when I was growing up, and I was listening to Top 40 as a kid, of course, like most kids, was Paul Young's Every Time You Go Away. Oh, right.

What a great song. Right. But I won't reveal how old I was when I learned that's a Hall & Oates song that he was covering. Yeah, man. I had no idea. And they do a great job of it, too, but Paul Young, man, he was fantastic. i love that guy absolutely uh shout out to hollow nose now uh question do you do you know like are you at all

following this genre we now call yacht rock oh yeah oh yeah and and yeah you know it's funny that every once in a while they'll throw on the yacht rock channel on on sirius or whatever and and yeah you know what you listen for a while and after it gets a little soapy after a while like when you're starting to do um oh i i i can't think of songs right now doobie brothers uh maybe no no no that's the good stuff no but when you're doing like the pina Colada song and stuff like that, you know, then you're kind of, I think, stretching it. But like Michael McDonald and the Doobie Brothers, you know, there's, here again, like there's so many people I couldn't include in this top 10 that I wanted to, the Doobies being one of them, David Bowie, Led Zeppelin,

you know, Rush, Roxy Music. There's so much stuff that I couldn't get into these 10 songs, and you just mentioned one of them. Well, we might have to do a sequel at some point. All right, so before I press play on song number three, because I'm looking at it right now, and I see it's a good chance for me to just let everybody know that, okay, this is episode 1,007, but there's a very special episode 1,021 planned because 1,021 is 1,021. And there's going to be a CFNY retrospective with some amazing names. Uh, Lumby won't be on that one because he didn't come to Toronto to team up

with Howard, but I only mentioned 1,021, which will be coming soon, I guess, when we get there. Because of this jam, let's kick it. One of the greatest talkover intros ever

recorded. Oh, the hands that's gone Take my back, my heart And those hands that's gone Take my back, take my back, my heart Amazing. Okay, Jeff, tell me about the cult. Well, this song, a big shout out to my former band. And this is the thing that you asked me earlier, what I miss most about Canada. And it's hanging with my bourbon brethren back out in Rockwood. I really, really miss playing. A bunch of us picked up some instruments, a bunch of old white guys picked up some instruments about 10 years ago and just started getting the guitars. And away we went.

And it evolved. And this song, when we got this one right, it was by far the most fun to play. And then we branched out. We also did Wildflower. And I just really grew to love this band. And then you find out things like Ian Asprey, the lead singer, he grew up in Hamilton. I mean, originally from UK.

Sure. But grew up in Hamilton and has not so fond memories of that apparently. But nonetheless, who knows? It probably shaped a lot of the music that came out after. It sounds like you're well educated here on Ian Ashbery, but I was going to ask you if you were even aware of that fun fact that he grew up, apparently he was 11 years old when his family moved to Hamilton, but that's where he discovers David Bowie, Iggy Pop,

the New York Dolls, that's where he forms his musical taste, his musical influences strike him while he's living in Hamilton, Ontario. Yeah. And, you know, there's Hamilton's got a long, rich history of musicians and producers,

as you, as you well know, but Daniel Lanois, Daniel Lanois being one of them. But so Mike Mazziers, who is the, the, the kind of the,

the leader of our, our bourbon brethren. He, this always reminds me of, of, of the leader of our Bourbon Brethren. This always reminds me of the two of us building the sound space in his barn. And we created just a massive stage, beautiful pine walls, great monitoring system. We used to have little local concerts with the people from the Rockwood area.

And it's really, I gotta say, that's the thing I miss the most. And so this song, and by the way, one of the songs that we did have on our playlist was Kick Out the Jams by MC5. Love it. So that's why I knew the curse word at the beginning. I used to open the Kick Out the Jams episodes with that actual cut with the, you know, motherfucker in it. And then I had a sponsor that was like French camps for kids.

And the sponsor said, is it okay if you don't say motherfucker off the top? And then I got rid of it and I never did add it back. But love it, man. MC5. Yeah. And love this jam. And I love this next, man, you know what?

Yeah, it's a bit eclectic, but I like it when playlists are eclectic. Let's kick up. Oh, this song's going to make me cry. Good. Oh, man. Rows and flows of angel hair And ice cream castles in the air

And feather canyons everywhere Looked at clouds that way But now they only block the sun They rain and they snow on everyone So many things I would have done But clouds guard guarding my way I've looked at clouds From both sides now

From up and down And still somehow It's cloud illusions, I recall I really do know clouds At all I almost don't want to talk over it, Jeff. I know, I know. Well, and you know, this version that she came out out with in I think it was 2002 is just so compelling.

Her voice is so rich. She brought the tempo down and the strings in the background. What really got me on this version was the 2010 Vancouver Olympics. So there I am living in Ontario. I think was it the opening? I can't remember if it was the opening or the closing ceremonies where they had the map of Canada. Was it the opening? No, it must have been the closing ceremonies. Anyway,

and they went through each province and they got to Saskatchewan. And so, how Canadian was this? Lloyd Robertson introduces the Saskatchewan thing. And Donald Sutherland is doing the voiceover. Wow.

And he's reading from the book W.O. Mitchell, Who Has Seen the Wind? While this girl is lifted into the air and she's scooting over the wheat fields. Of the province. And this is playing. You should check it out. It's available. I mean you can get it on. On YouTube. And I'm telling you.

I can't. I can't even think of it without. Welling up. That's okay. This is a safe space for you Jeff. Just let it out buddy. Yeah beautiful. You know, and you never lose where you're from.

No matter where you go. And I mean, I spent 20 plus years in Ontario. Wonderful time of my life. But all those formative years in Saskatchewan. That opening, it just sent me back. I actually sent the Olympic Committee a letter. Just saying how much it... And Joni also just got honored at the Kennedy Center. Just one of our treasures. I look at life from both sides now

From win and lose And still somehow it's life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all It's life's delusions that I recall I really don't know life I really don't know life at all Yeah, it just brings it all back. Great childhood I had in Saskatchewan.

Howard will probably say the same thing. Beautiful, Jeff. Beautiful. Now, essentially you could draw a line. I guess she's doing her nightclub thing in Saskatoon and then she kind of does her nightclub thing in Toronto here. So just to quickly tie it back here is that before she was Joni Mitchell, when she was Joni Anderson, she was playing the Purple Onion in Toronto here. So just a quick to quickly tie it back here is that before she was Joni Mitchell,

when she was Joni Anderson, she was playing the purple onion in Yorkville. And this might blow your mind. So the purple onion from 1960 to 1965 was owned by, um, the, uh, a gentleman,

uh, Whitkin, uh, I'll come up with his first name, Barry Whitkin there. I got it. Barry Whitkin actually, uh,, who's still with us, is the father of a guy named Andrew Whitkin

who founded and owns StickerU.com. Oh! I know. Wow. So shout out to the Purple Onion, which is long gone. I think it's been gone since 65, but they're trying to find a way to like memorialize it in Yorkville because a lot of

great folk acts came through including Joni Anderson Gordon Lightfoot all those guys absolutely right Neil Young was down just across the street at the one of those clubs there anyway so shout out to stickeru.com and thank you for

sponsoring the program, Jeff. I'm loving this buddy. I'm going to jump right into your fifth jam here. Yeah. Cause this is happy times. Now this is my happy place right here. Thank you. The feeling was clear Clear as a blue sky

On a Sunday day Everything was you Cause no one made me feel Everything was you, woo, woo, woo Cause no one made me feel the way I felt with you, oh, oh Call on me cause I love you, you know I do. You love me too. Then came a chance. Yeah, so just easily one of my favorite bands of all time, Chicago. And this song to me just represents sort of my my pop base it's just it's just the the most feel

good pop record i i could think of and you know to to have one of my favorite bands uh sort of represent all the great pop songs in the world you know with danny Danny Serafin on drums and just the horns. I just love horns, man. And it was either this or old days. But this song, for some reason, I've heard this song a thousand times and I never get sick of it. I just love this record. Shout out to Peter Cetera. Yeah, Pete Cetera, all those guys.

By the way, I got to say i i i really uh you know this stupid war this crazy war there's a a group of our artists in russia called leonid and friends and i don't know if you've had a chance to check out their stuff they do absolutely Note Perfect Covers of Chicago. I mean, Note Perfect Covers of other bands. But I just hope those guys are okay over there. Well, if they're in Russia, they're okay. The worry is if they're in Ukraine. Well, no, no, no, I know. No, but I mean, you know, even in Russia,

who knows what's going on, right? I did see a, you're right, absolutely. No, it's very frightening. I mean, I always wonder what your perspective is like in France Who knows what's going on, right? I did see a, you're right, absolutely. No, it's very frightening. I mean, I always wonder what your perspective is like in France with all that because, you know, we're watching every night, we're watching the news, and it's just terrible. And then you're hearing Russia's occupying one of the major cities in Ukraine. And then it's just to follow it all here,

and it's just devastating to have this happening on our little planet. Yeah, for sure. Anyway, I just think they're just such an amazingly talented group of people. And you'd hate to see where we have some amazing tennis players, Medvedev, and then you've got Ovechkin. We have all these amazingly talented, great people from Russia, and you just hate that they may have to take the brunt of this. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, no, totally.

Absolutely. Now, just to shout out cover bands, although we haven't had it in the last few years because of COVID, but we have a local, it's called lakeshore mardi gras it's like a local concert in my hood here and uh once one summer i went over check out some of the bands and there was a band they're called the pretzel logic they're called and they're just uh they're just a cover they're a fantastic like chicago cover band it was amazing or not it's steely dan yeah sorry yeah they do there's some they throw in some chicago right but of course they fantastic Chicago cover band. It was amazing. Or not, Steely Dan. Yeah, Steely Dan.

They throw in some Chicago, you're right. But of course, they focus on Steely Dan. That's the whole point. Yeah, yeah. Fantastic. But before you play the next one, I got to just tell you the reason I put them in this order. I'm not much of a concert guy.

I get a little claustrophobic. I mentioned I went to a few Pat Metheny shows. I just, or Agoraphobic, I don't know which one it is. I just don't, I don't like being in crowds. But when Julie and I heard about, I don't know, 45 years ago, that Chicago and Earth, Wind & Fire were playing at Copse Coliseum, or whatever the hell they call it, in Hamilton, I said, okay, I'm, I'm getting some, I'm getting some juicy fat tickets for this. Uh, because these are two of my favorite bands of all time. And it was, I got to tell you

before you play this, it was just incredible. So here's how the show went. Yeah. They start off on the stage, full bands, both of them together. There were 21 musicians on the stage. There were like, there were like, there were a double horn section, obviously. They had double drums. Everything was just double. And so they played about five or six songs back and forth. That was an Earth, Wind and Fire, then a Chicago, then an Earth. Then Chicago took the stage for an hour. Then there was an intermission. Then Earth, Wind & Fire took the stage for an hour. Then they came back for like seven more.

It was like a three and a half hour show. It was the most incredible thing I've ever seen in my life. Wow. Amazing. And I'd never seen either band before. So let's kick out the jams with the funk side of things and Jupiter with EWF. Searching in the sky one night while looking for the moon I feel the mind alive, I put you in a zoo This was there to tell someone about your story

Fifteen seconds later, a light appeared in front of me To my surprise, I stood up and with ancient mystery His name is Jupiter and came to visit me His name is Jupiter and came to visit me The name is Jupiter from the galaxy I came to meet you to make you free Delivered to you

a dollar from a distant planet from the cosmos Keep your eye on Jupiter such beauty in the sky We will wait for your return funky yeah oh man just yeah we we lost a beauty with uh maurice white when he passed away uh parkinson's a few years ago but just amazing stuff and and again earth went in fire i think the best representation of my my funky side as we kick out the jams like brothers johnson and and ohio players and even even getting into that acid funk, that Parliament, give up the funk.

And even to the point of bands like Level 42 with the great Mark King, another great bass player and vocalist. And Tower of Power. Saw Tower of Power in Guelph. The big Tower of Power horns. Just a great genre of music. So much fun. I can already tell by kicking out these jams that you love your horns. Love the horns, baby.

Amazing. I love hearing... The whole point of Kick Out the Jams was the origin story, if you will. I tell this story coincidentally on the day that I am Mike Wilner's guest on his Toronto Star podcast, Deep Left Field. So if people want to check out today's episode,

this is March, what is this? March 3rd. Today's episode of Deep Left Field. It's yours truly for some reason talking to Mike Wilner. But I was on literally like, I saw a tweet from Mike Wilner and he was tweeting about Pearl Jam. And I love Pearl Jam. And I love Pearl Jam.

And I was on a bike ride, and I was thinking, I wonder what other music Mike Wilner likes. And then I thought, well, people could come back, and they could share their favorite music with me. Because I just, Jeff, this is why you're here right now. I love hearing people talk to me about their favorite music. Like, I love it. You know what? It's such a great idea. And I'm glad.

I'm actually glad because you put this out to me a while ago. And I'm glad I waited because when you originally put it out to me, I was just, my mind was going crazy. I couldn't narrow it down. And then it's, it's because I spent some time thinking about it. Okay. You can't come up with 10 songs, uh, that are your top one, you know, one through 10. Um, but, but you, but so what I did was I kind of found one of my favorite songs from a genre cause I really like a lot of different genres, you know? Um, and, and so that's kind of what we did here it's smart because then we can

talk about that jam and then you could extrapolate on other uh bands or artists in that genre that you also love like this is a smart way to play this i'd say so i'm gonna dive into this next jam and at some point after you talk about why you chose it i'm gonna tell you what's coming monday which i think you might be very interested in. So let's listen. piano plays softly It's quarter to three There's no one in the place except you and me. So set them up, Joe, I got a little story I think you should know.

I think you should know We're drinking, my friend To the end Of a brief episode Make it one for my babe And one more for the road Yeah, I could not do ten songs without including Frank. As a matter of fact, I wanted to do two of Frank because he is the master of

two separate genres. You know, there's the saloon songs of which this is the greatest ever recorded. And he did this about ten different times through his career. And what's the name of this song? One for my baby, one for the road. And it's

it started off in his early career when his voice hadn't really refined. And then this is from the 50s, from the Only the Lonely album. And it's just, oh my, just a lonely piano and the strings. And then what Frank Sinatra can do with the feeling of a song

no one on the planet can touch. And, you know, I grew up, thanks to my parents who loved music, I grew up listening to all this stuff. Frank, Dave Brubeck, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Tony Bennett, all this stuff. Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, all this great stuff. And I just love it to this day And I just love it to this day. I just love it to this day. Let me make a recommendation to you, Jeff.

On Monday, there's a special episode of Toronto Mic'd being recorded. Tony versus Frank is what this episode is called. And what we have is we have Bruce Dobigan going to bat for Tony Bennett and Steve Paikin going to bat for Frank Sinatra. And I know on the surface, it doesn't sound like that will be much of a battle because how could Frank ever lose to anybody?

But it's still, I think it'll be interesting content. We're going to spin key jams and discuss both artists in depth. And I'm not sure if it's Tony, maybe it's more Frank versus Tony, who knows? But this is recording Monday and you'd probably dig hearing Steve Paikin talking about Frank Sinatra.

Well, and you know what? Listen, the Tony Bennett stuff, both of these guys could croon and both could swing, right? So if I was going to choose a Sinatra swing song, it would be, I've Got You Under My Skin. And in particular, Live at the Sands. I mean, it was just, you know, you've got all these great horns.

And it was live and it was fantastic. And Count Basie was the band. And I mean, oh, it's just an incredible version of that song. Oh, now I got to tell you, when this is over, I got just an incredible version of that song. Oh, now, I got to tell you, when this is over, I got a great story about Frank Sinatra. Okay, we'll let Frank take us home and we'll hear that story. The long, it's so long. The long, very long. Yeah, he invented this crooning where you're not necessarily singing on the notes. You're creating the song within the music.

It's just the guy was incredible. He was my mom and dad's favorite. They would be boogying around the living room to all the swing songs. And again, I'm at Y95. It's 1993. And I hear through the grapevine that Frank is coming to town. One of his final, you know, may have been his final Canadian stop. So I get these tickets.

Julie and I get these tickets for my mom and dad. We get about 15 rows deep and my mom and dad were like, honestly, like little kids, little kids in there. There's their hero. And first of all, it's, it's, uh, Frank's son conducting the orchestra, Frank jr. Frank singing, and guess who opens the show? Don Rickles. Wow. Wow. So before this is, and this is the funny part of the story.

Well, first of all, so of course we do, we take my mom and dad to Lord Byron's Steakhouse. We do the whole Rat Pack thing that night. We go there first, and then we, to Lord, Lord Byron steakhouse. We do the whole rat pack thing that night. You know, we go there first and then, you know, we go to the show, but prior to the show, we had Don Rickles on our radio program and I have never been so nervous in my life. So remember, this is a morning show with five guys on it. Okay. So there's me, there's Al Craig, the sports guy, there's Ted Colbert, the news guy. There's Todd Lewis, the engineer

and performer. And there's Mike Richards and I. And I have to start this interview with Don Rickles. I'm so nervous. I'm so nervous. So he gets on the phone and I don't know what I'm saying. Hey, Y95,

10 after 8, and our guest today coming to town with Frank Sinatra is Don Rickles. Don's calling us from Las Vegas. Good morning, Mr. Rickles. Jeez, it's been so long since I was in Las Vegas and without missing a beat. Yeah, Jeff, everybody's talking about it. I mean, the other four guys on the show

were just folded up. I'm just, okay, you know, you just have to take your lumps sometimes, you know? Oh, that's great. I love it. Now, just briefly here,

even though we dove deep into this in episode 140, so if people haven't heard the initial deep dive with Jeff Lumby, they should pause this right now, go listen to that, then come right back. But you mentioned your parents being big Franks and actresses. So I just feel, let's just bring up, remind people, if we will,

that your parents are the people behind Size Small. Yes, yes, yeah. Well, my mom was on live television in the 50s in Saskatoon. And that's where she met my dad, who was the I think the first employee of CFQC TV. He was a cameraman. Your mom is Miss Helen. Is that right? That's right. My mom's Miss Helen. And they met. Yeah, they met in the 50s and they got married and I think it was 1956. They were working at the television station at the time.

And so we thought in the 80s, we would revive her skill with doing a kid's show. Right. And it was a big hit. I mean, this is a big deal because PBS had this and this is a big deal.

Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah, PBS and it ran on Global. It was like a big, yeah, you're right. Size Small was great. We have a bunch of albums at the time, record albums that accompanied the show and we did live shows. We did a bunch of live shows in Saskatchewan and Winnipeg.

Yeah, no, it was a real deal. It was fun. So Jeff, you realize there was a period of time in the not so distant past where you had both like joni mitchell playing uh you know coffee houses in saskatoon and then you had miss helen's kindergarten party airing on saskatoon television like this was a period in time where all this happened yeah that's true yeah So because she had two records that my dad made with her back in the late 50s, early 60s. And I'm on the cover of each one as a little tiny boy. Stampede. Are you because you're Stampede?

Yeah, but no, no, no. I wasn't Stampede when I'm two years old. That's true. I'm fast forwarding to the 80s because I'm still stuck in the 80s here. OK, awesome. Let's kick out. I can't wait to kick out this jam because I'm still stuck in the 80s here okay awesome let's kick out I can't wait to kick out this jam because this gentleman performed live in my basement and I can't say that about many jams that you're going to kick out this might be the only one actually but let's get to it go ahead

you can start it go ahead I understand that this is your number one downloaded guest is that true? It was memorable, that's for sure. It was a big one. And his brother was here too.

His brother was here too. And it was actually, we'll talk about it on the other side, but it was quite surreal to be quite honest. I've got a good one for you as well. Gino Vanelli. I love this. F-O-T-M. Gino Vanelli. Where am I going? Have I come too far?

Have I lost my mind? Where are my eyes? Or have I seen too much? Have I lost my touch? Losing directions From growing infections Poisoned desires Of reaping life so young

Love it. Oh, man. This guy is so talented. I mean, I think he's so underestimated. I know he's made a huge career, but he's just one of the greatest. He and his brother Joe, they're just two of the greatest musicians we've ever had.

If I could read between the lines for a moment, and I agree with you 100%, that Gino's way too awesome to be in my basement. No, one of the greatest artists with the greatest podcaster. What are you talking about, man? Because I had the same feeling when he was here and he had his guitar and he was, you know, doing some wild horses and different rearrangements. I'm thinking this guy's way too big a deal to be in this basement. But anyway. Well, isn't that great of him? this guy's way too big a deal to be in this basement but anyway

well isn't that great of him I mean he first of all I've been a fan of Gino Vanelli since the second album Powerful People and then of course I got Crazy Life and then I got Storm at Sunup where this is from which is the best album for me

and you know Powerful People before that and oh yeah well of course um oh it just goes on and on and um he he's he uh so when i started sorry just before y95 i was there for just um for for just two years or a year and a half before it was CKDS. So it changed over to Y95 while I was there. And so while it was CKDS, I had an opportunity to interview Gino downtown Toronto and then do a half hour foreground special on it,

which I just adored doing. So Julie and I go down there. We meet Gino and Joe. We have an amazing breakfast and just they're they're just so affable just such nice people and at the end of the thing I say uh you know Julie and I were going to uh Los Angeles this summer on holiday and Gino says well why don't you come and see our studio and you know how people you know how people say that. Oh, yeah, sure, sure, right? No, he gives us a phone number. And so I said, oh, Julie, I'm sorry.

We're doing this. We're doing this. So we get there. I call him up. And he goes, oh, yeah, I remember you, Jeff, from the Sheraton or wherever we were. Yeah, yeah, Joe and I are just rehearsing our new album right now. Why don't you come up to the Valley and check it out? Amazing. Amazing.

Amazing. So we actually got to go visit their studio in Los Angeles. Again, just a beautiful host, a really beautiful guy. I agree. Well, in my experience with him, it was just surreal and wonderful. But what a great guy. And Joe was, again, when you listen to the Gino Vanelli episode of Toronto Mics, you hear Joe, he's laughing in the background the whole time.

He was just great. He was there to make sure things sounded good before Gino performed. Give this some juice right here. Yeah, you got it, buddy. Outro Music Thank you. And this is 1979, right? Yeah, 79. No, no, 76. 76, good. Glad I clarified that.

Okay, because my, again, a bit younger than you, my first experience with Gino was black cars, believe it or not. Because it was all over my radio when I was a kid. And when I had Gino down here, of course, you know, he's got a number, he's got big US hits and we're talking, I just want to stop and all these things. And I kept going back to black cars. And at some point, Gino just said, can we get off black cars already? Like he just sort of like, good, you know?

Yeah. And then of course, now in the FOTM community, we're trying to figure out a name for this. Like when there's a guest who's done a hundred amazing things and I fixate on some stupid thing that he did when I was 10 years old or whatever, like, what do we call that? Cause it's, that's not the first time that's happened, but can we get off black cars has become a catchphrase in the community here. Well, for me, this sort of represents the prog rock stuff, right?

For me, this represents, oh, I used to like Yes, and I still do. I like, you know, old Yes and old Genesis and some of that stuff. Because this guy, back then, man, he could go toe-to-toe with anybody. That's the great Graham Lear on drums who went on to be Santana's drummer. I mean,

this is just as good as it gets, this song. Great selection here. We'll let Gino wrap up and we'll glide right into your next jam. Sure. Faster or slower You will go I guess I'm a little 70s heavy here, huh? Dude, when I kick out the jams, it's almost all 90s.

So it's all music when it strikes you, man. That music that strikes you as a teenager never, ever leaves you. It's everything. You're not alone. Here, let's kick out. Anything you want to say before I kick this one out? Well, just quickly, I would just say that I listened to Humble's Kick Out the Jams

and we both chose a song from arguably the greatest album ever made, Asia, from Steely Dan. I decided, I mean, the song he chose is just, it's just the epitome of the music of that album. But I got to say, this song has the groove that I just fell in love with when I listened to it first time. In the corner of my eye I saw you in Rudis

You were very high You were high It was a crying disgrace They saw your face On the counter by your keys Was the end book of numbers and your remedies

One of these Surely will screen out the sorrow But where are you tomorrow? I can't cry anymore Are you not around? Are you out of mind? Are you out of mind? Break away. Just when it seems so clear that it's over now.

Drink your big black cow and get out of here. Black Cow. Yeah, so this album is crazy. First of all, there are over 40 musicians that played on this album. I think the album has seven tracks and there were six drummers. The great Steve Gadd played on Humble's Choice Asia and Steve Gadd is just,

he's just lights out. Another great drummer. I'm sorry I keep talking about drummers, but that's my little fixation. Yeah, go nuts. But Bernard Purdy also played on two of the songs. And Bernard Purdy, he invented the Purdy shuffle, and he was just the greatest guy. There are lots of little drum tutorials with big old Bernard Purdy.

And he also played drums on Kid Charlemagne and a number of other songs. Didn't play the drums on this one though, but this is one of the few songs that I can actually try and play of Steely Dan. Right. Would you classify this jam as Yacht Rock?

I guess so. Yacht Rock gets a bad name. I guess, yeah, it certainly fits into the Yacht Rock gets a bad name. I guess, yeah, it certainly fits into the Yacht Rock groove. But this is, like, this is a little bit different than the Pina Colada song. You know what I'm saying? I think this is true. Like, I think it's well-crafted.

I think this is the spirit of, you know, Yacht Rock, I think. Yeah, this isn't Bertie Higgins, okay? You know, like, it's got some sophistication. Did Howard kick out Asia or did he kick out Deacon Blues? No, he did Asia for sure. Okay, okay. I mean, it's been a long time, to be honest. I have a spreadsheet where I can double check,

but for some reason, maybe he just loves the whole album and maybe it was another time we were talking about Deacon Blues. But, you know, there's Pegas on this album. This is a monster, this album. Yeah, this was the B-side to Josie. Right, yeah. Yeah. Right.

And they're just home at last, and I got the news. Just great stuff. And then the next album, Gaucho, was no slouch either. Just really, really fine music. But you know what? In terms of my favorite pop or rock album of all time, it was this and then Avalon with Roxy Music. I just love that one.

But every song on both those albums is just amazing. You got Tommy Scott there on the sax solo. Great. Larry Carlton, who helped produce the album, also played guitar on Joe Sample on keyboards. I mean, it's just amazing. Paul Humphrey is the drummer on this one. It is amazing

and you picked, there's no, I will repeat, there is no Michael McDonald on Black Cow. No, but there is on Josie. And Peg too,ie. And Peg, too. And Peg, yeah. What? Do you remember that SCTV skit?

Isn't that classic? I don't even know how they got the rights to that, but yeah, he would go back and forth from I think it was Christopher Cross, and then he'd come over to the Doobie Brothers and then, or, wasn't it Christopher Cross, Ride Like the Wind was one of them. And then he'd run into the next studio and sing.

He just adds that backup vocal flair to it. Absolutely amazing. And the other guy would be Kenny Loggins, right? Oh, Kenny Loggins. That's fantastic. I love Kenny Loggins. Yeah. Well, Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins wrote What a Fool Believes. Right. That is fantastic. I love Kenny Loggins. Yeah. Yeah. Well, they wrote, Michael McDonald and Kenny Loggins

wrote What a Fool Believes. Right. That is correct. Yeah. Listen, if you're ever bored working on the new estate there, there's a Yacht Rock episode of Toronto Mic'd,

which you might enjoy. It's an episode of Pandemic Fridays with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. But dive in, you know, if you're in the mood to hear a few guys drink Great Lakes beer and talk about Yacht Rock. Okay, cool. Speaking of which, real quick before I forget, you're in France, so you're getting none of this. But next time I see you when you visit, eventually when it's safe to do so, when you miss Toronto or the GDA you want to visit, I've got to get you a lasagna from

Palma Pasta. Palma Pasta will hook you up with a lasagna. Delicious Italian food and fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. They'd love you to enjoy some fresh craft beer. I'm up for both of those ideas. Awesome. And just before we kick out

the final jam, and there might be a bonus jam at the end so don't don't go anywhere i want to thank canna cabana for sponsoring the program uh basically uh and i don't i won't even ask but uh is it legal is it is weed legal in france i don't know man it's not my thing so thing. Not your thing? You're not curious? You've got to Google that one. Okay. For those, if weed is your thing and your buddy Howard, for example, is a big fan of weed,

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¶¶ Miles Davis. We could not, we could not do this Kick Out the Jams edition without playing something from the greatest jazz album ever recorded. And you know the interesting thing what are we march 3rd what is this march march march 3rd yeah this song was recorded march 2nd 1959 63 years ago wow and it's just and then it's you know it it this is another you know you talk about your uh This is another, you know, you talk about your Tony Bennett, Frank Sinatra showdown. You will get very, you'll get a lot of jazz aficionados who will concur with my assessment that this is the greatest.

It's like six songs. It's, and Miles Davis. So you got John Coltrane playing right now. He decided to create a band with two different saxophone players, which, you know, not common, not unheard of. But you've got John Coltrane, the moody John Coltrane here, and then he hands it right over to Cannonball Adderley. And it's from a tenor, I think, to an alto sax. The sound difference, it's just, this is a remarkable song.

It's called Flamenco Sketches. And it's one of six songs on A Kind of Blue, which is just such an album top to bottom. And then the great Bill Evans, my favorite piano player of all time. I just, I couldn't think of a better song to end my jams with. Well, here's some more good news for you. I was just popping over to the pirate stream, as I call it, live.torontomike.com,

and I see a couple of comments you'll enjoy hearing, I think. One is from Ian Service, who wants you to know, Jeff, that he's loving the new Jeff and Julie podcast. So he's listening, He's loving it. And he says he loves that French expression of the day. Every episode has a French expression of the day. And I think Julie will want to hear this. So put her,

is she there? Get her over here. Quebec Irish boy is also listening. And he says, he has a question. Does Julie have a radio background because Quebec Irish boy says she sounds better than you Jeff that's what that's what all my friends are saying she does sound better than me I know I'm uh I I would I'd like to be able to say that I trained

her well but no she's just got mad skills I I met her actually when I was in radio and she was in marketing in Montreal. So she was very good at making presentations, as you can hear. She likes to do her research. Well, I know what it's like. I get many, many comments from people who are like, what is she doing with you? Because my wife is like, she's just so smart and so talented. And she'll, you know, like I said, she'll use her Ryobi tools

and she'll build a new like hut or a bed or you name it. You should see the thing she's building. And then she's sewing a dress for my daughter to wear to the prom. And then she's like doing all these things. And so I can relate completely because your wife is also bilingual

and that was key, right? Like could you have moved to France if Julie couldn't speak French fluently? This is something that we have learned and the answer is no. So, you know, that's one thing that we really stress if you're contemplating a move to France, one of you has to speak French.

Now I'm taking French lessons, had a lesson this morning, one of you has to speak French. Now I'm taking French lessons. I had a lesson this morning. I'm taking French lessons right now. It's very difficult for an old man to learn a new language. So it's taking me longer than it would say a six-year-old, but it's happening. It's happening slowly, but no, you can't do it because we're in an area here in Southwest France where no one speaks English. I mean, there's not a lick of it. It's like when you go to rural Quebec. It's not like Montreal. That's right.

Exactly. And the same comparison goes for southwest France to Paris. You might have gone to Paris and go, oh, Jeff, you're a liar. Well, of course, in Paris, they speak all kinds of languages. Sure. I got engaged in Paris, speaking of Monica. Wow. At the top of the Eiffel Tower. Look at that. That's when I did it.

Holy. I got engaged in Montreal. Okay, there you go. So tell us, because now that I'm listening to you and Julie, I don't believe I've ever met Julie. So this is like the first time I've heard her voice and I started getting to know her through your podcast. Again, before we close off and forget to remind people, it's called Jeff and Julie Moved to France During a Global Pandemic. So you'll, you know, you search it, you'll find it very easily.

You can subscribe in Apple or Spotify or wherever you get your... Or Humble and Fred. Well, yeah, except, yeah, you can go to humbleandfred.com and find the link there to subscribe in the podcatcher of your choice. There's also a link. I also, when we added the link to your great show on the humble and fret network i said to howard uh can we throw

toronto miked in there he says yeah buddy so now we're all kind of there on the the humble nice nice we're all kind of there so where am i going with this oh yeah so how long have you been with julie like how long have you guys been married we got married in 1990 in montreal right around that time when i'm apparently i was offered a job at cfny right that you turned down so that i apparently turned down as well best thing that ever happened to uh fred patterson hey listen see now that wouldn't have been that wouldn't have been the same show it would you know i i would erect it yeah the time space continuum doesn't quite work that way. You're absolutely right.

So I guess, so you've been married quite a long time with Julie, and I think to undertake what you've undertaken, the move from Ontario, Canada, to France, and just hearing the details in the podcast, like, it's, I'm going to just go on a limb and say it's safe to say that

you have to be madly in love, I think, to withstand all that rigor and pressure and all those. It just sounds like it's great that you have that stronger relationship that you guys can take on such an endeavor. Yeah, either that or, as Julie said, getting a divorce is just too much work. It's either that or that. And now you're there for the rest of your lives, which, you know, will be decades and decades.

Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. There ain't no turning back from this move, my friend. You're only doing that once. Right. So she's not, and she has no regrets here a year and four months later.

She's like, I'm stuck. You know, I will say the only thing is it's been a bit onerous on her because she is the one who speaks the fluent. And mean it's her first language if you can i know you're listening to the podcast and you're going holy cow her her english is amazing if that's her second language and uh yeah she speaks perfectly in in both uh but yeah so it's been that part of it's been a little difficult because she has to be the go to person to talk to anyone on the government phones.

You know, I can't I can't. And again, this is why you need someone who's fluent in French to do this kind of a move. You're a lucky man. Now we are done the 10 jams. I thoroughly enjoyed this, but I do have another jam loaded up. Did you want me to just dive right into it? Yeah. You know i i appreciate you letting this one fly um so my mom and my mom is in great shape she is uh uh in her late 80s i guess you could say and she is coming to france in three weeks wow yeah with my sister and brother-in-law and my nephew and this is a song song, and I'm telling you, when you hear this song, the difficulty of this song,

this would cover all my classical likes. And I'm not a huge classical fan, but Debussy's Claire de Lune. Yeah, it just, it's so beautiful. And it's so so difficult and mom used to be able to play this and and she still you know she still does she has her piano heard her hand a while ago so it's a little more difficult but this used to echo through our house. All the time. And she could play this flawlessly. That's when you learned piano through conservatory. There was no Suzuki or Yamaha. You learned your scales and you learned your lessons, you really have to be serious about your enjoyment factor. yeah when you're uh when you're playing that kind of piano and taking those kind of lessons you really have to be serious about your enjoyment factor jeff if you don't want me

asking how old is your mom now he's 87 amazing yeah she's on her way to in a few weeks she'll be uh visiting you she she's in she she could put on her wedding dress. I mean, she she's in that good of shape. She's been she's we talk on the phone and she'll say, I'm walking so that I'm in good shape when I get there. So I don't have I don't have a cane or a walker. We're going for going for some nice French countryside walks when I get there. So she is ready to go. Well, you know, we could argue the Frank Sinatra song was for your mom, but I'm glad she got a special shout out here with the rare 11th jam. I'm glad you did this.

Yeah, it's a beautiful song. Clear the loon. Just beautiful. This was beautiful, Jeff. I thoroughly enjoyed it. It took, what, several years to get you back on Toronto, Mike, because you're tough to book here. I'm elusive.

You're elusive. You're an enigma wrapped in a riddle. But kicking out the jams with you was great fun, buddy. Thanks so much for doing this. Thank you for everything you've done for our podcast and everything you do for Toronto, pal. And that... That brings us to the end of our 1007th show.

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