Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Jodie's Jumpsuit: Toronto Mike'd #363

Episode Date: August 3, 2018

Mike chats with Crystal Rose b.k.a. Jodie's Jumpsuit about her tweets before they kick out the jams....

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to episode 363 of Toronto Mike, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery located here in Etobicoke. Did you know that 99.9% of all Great Lakes beer remains here in Ontario? TLB, brewed for you ontario and property in the six.com toronto real estate done right and paytm an app designed to manage all of your bills in one spot download the app today from paytm.ca. And our newest sponsor, Census Design and Build, providing architectural design, interior design, and turnkey construction services across the GTA.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm Mike from torontomike.com, and joining me this week is... I don't even know her name! I know she tweets as jody's jumpsuit so i'm just gonna call her jody's jumpsuit or you could call me jump or jump my my real name my i guess so do you have a real name i do and it's not jody it's not jody but people think it's jody right yeah it's it's kind of a misunderstanding of my Twitter handle. It was Jodi's jumpsuit, so I was trying to suggest I was the jumpsuit, not the person. But it's really funny because when I meet people in real life,
Starting point is 00:01:54 they always kind of recognize me and they pause and they look at me as if they're trying to figure out who I am. And you can see when the moment they're going to say my Twitter handle, but then they're scared to say it out loud to a stranger. So they make this like J sound like Jody. But yeah, so it's, but this is completely true. So I actually,
Starting point is 00:02:14 I think this is the first time ever I've had a guest on where I wasn't, I didn't know her name. Like this is the first time. And I'm sure a lot of people aren't aware of this clever handle Jodi's jumpsuit. Like it's kind of too cool for school, which is what I like about it. Cause you have to like earn it.
Starting point is 00:02:31 You know what I mean? You have to be in the, in the club to, to understand the reference, which I'm in the club. Okay. Yes. I've had Muffy on this show. I know. I was so excited when Nina was on.
Starting point is 00:02:42 That was fantastic. So in fact here, right? So this is the, so this is excited when Nina was on. That was fantastic. So, in fact, here, right? So this is the origin of the name. Let me just play a clip I had loaded for Nina, but let's hear it right now. Okay. Okay, what's the big idea? Busting in here, little mouse?
Starting point is 00:02:59 Sam, please, maybe she's hurt. I hope you haven't broken any bones. Oh, a bruise or two, I think that's all. No bones broken in my fall. Hey, that's a talking mouse, Jody. That's mighty strange. Don't you know mice aren't supposed to talk? Well, this mouse talks all the time.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Not only that, I talk in rhyme. Still kind of strange if you ask me. Well, forgive me for being talkative, but I'm looking for a place to live. Oh, well, you're going to have to look someplace else. After all, this is a store. This isn't a hotel, you know. Oh, come on, Sam. There's plenty of
Starting point is 00:03:37 places for her to live here. Anyway, I think she's kind of cute. So that voice we heard at the end is jody yes yes noreen virgin yep noreen virgin yeah uh and she's from uh it's a today's special reference yeah absolutely she jody wore at least for the first part of the show she wore this pink and red jumpsuit which was fantastic to five and six year old me i thought it was the greatest thing in the world and i thought she had the greatest job in the world which was was hanging out in the Simpsons or in
Starting point is 00:04:09 Simpsons until the middle of the night. And it was great. I loved that show so much. So when I was setting up a Twitter account, I was like, what's something that's vaguely anonymous, but people will kind of understand. So I went for that deep cut. I love deep cuts. Okay. Now, you're not wearing a jumpsuit. I am wearing a jumpsuit. Okay, so you know what I'm saying. Do I know what a jumpsuit is? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I'm going off mic here. I need to look at you. Okay. Oh, I see. Okay, I see. I thought it was a dress. Yes, it's a dress with a very subtle short. So you're wearing it great.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Yes, thank you for wearing a jumpsuit because I was about to complain. I had to be on brand i i understand what i need to do now with my selfie mode i take after the show uh we're not going to see it's a jumpsuit so people have to take our word for it yeah they're going to have to trust us or i can find one of those uh scruffy guys on lakeshore to come over and take the photo for it they can just hold me up and we can do like a landscape, perhaps. Yeah, whatever it takes. Whatever it takes. So, why Mike, this Jodi's jumpsuit, like, who is she? Why do you have her on the
Starting point is 00:05:12 show? Let me just give some credit here. First of all, I do follow you and I enjoy your tweets. I enjoy your tweets and your podcast. Well, you beat me. Now I need to combat that. I'd like your jumpsuit. Your turn. Thank you. I like your t-shirt. Oh, okay. Hold on. I like your hair. Oh I'd like your jumpsuit. Your turn. Thank you. I like your t-shirt. Oh, okay. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:05:26 I like your hair. Oh, I like your hair. Oh, I like everything about you. I win. I like your shoes. Oh, thank you. This feels like being on Toronto Mike is like an audience member being allowed to go up on the couch at Johnny Carson and do the whole interview thing.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So I'm really excited right now. And you owe a lot of credit to somebody. So here's how it went down. I'm going to tell the listening audience. So I communicate frequently with Mark Weisblot. He is the guy who is at 1236. That's his Twitter handle. And he has that daily email newsletter
Starting point is 00:05:59 that you should subscribe to at 1236.ca. So we chat about lots of things. And some of those things we'll discuss off the top. But he met you at an event. Where did you meet Mark? Yeah, we just met at a bar at one point. It was a lot of fun. Well, just like, it wasn't like some kind of a get-together?
Starting point is 00:06:17 Was it a random meeting? It was really just more of a random meeting, yeah. You were just at a bar for a drink. Yeah. And it was one of those, like, hey, he recognized me from Twitter and it was great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:28 He would recognize you because his, his job is to be aware of like the, the Toronto Zeitgeist. Yeah. He's on the ball forever. It's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:06:36 He comes over here once, four times a year. He comes over every quarter and we'll do two hours plus in which we go through everything going on in the, the Zeitgeist i
Starting point is 00:06:46 guess so so he just uh we were just chatting he said uh i i met jody's jumpsuit he said uh you should have her on and i said oh like maybe i should let me have her on like what's the worst that could happen uh what's the worst that could happen uh i i don't even want to think about it because i will speak it into existence so i'm terrified but uh me possibly saying uh too many times or like that's hopefully the worst i can do you can have like i do the ums around here so please don't tread on me all right now broadcasting like you're not a radio person you're not a television person no you uh is and i saw this on twitter so i already know the answer but like a good lawyer i'm only asking questions i know the answers uh is this your first podcast absolutely so is this the first time you've been like recorded and broadcast in
Starting point is 00:07:38 anything any format um well no like oh no i i've i've been recording and like broadcasted but that was um like i went to wexford for one year and so uh in the music theater program so we did stuff like there was a phantom of the opera singer this was way back when and we had to be on the choir was part of his background singing the cd so in a way i've been broadcast i don't know if i can count that i say neither do i but okay so but other than that this is yeah this is my first foray into podcasting and doing this so this is terrifying okay that's my next question uh are you nervous right now um i'm nervous but i'm starting to feel more comfortable you're a really good host at like calming everything down.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Maybe it was the Today's Special clip. It was. That's calmed you down. Okay, now this is episode 363. You're a Blue Jays fan. Yes. But you're much younger than me. You must be.
Starting point is 00:08:38 You must be. You must be much younger than me. What does 363 in the world of Toronto Blue Jays, does 363 mean anything to world of Toronto Blue Jays, does 363 mean anything to you? Oh, no. No, I'm not someone who really follows numbers or anything like that. I'm just the person who enjoys the games
Starting point is 00:08:56 and knows like, hey, that guy seems unhappy. I wonder why that is. I don't know all that stuff. Okay, so 363 to me is, that's the John Allarood batting average from 1993. Because remember, he flirted with 400. And, of course, nobody bats 400 anymore. But 363 is ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:16 It is. And he did that. Yeah. And I don't, I'm pretty sure that when, I don't know, when I die, hopefully that's not too soon, but when I die, the Blue Jay record for best seasonal batting average will still be 363. Unless Vlad Guerrero Jr. bats 400. Yeah, who knows? He looks great. Are you excited about the future with these blue chippers, including Vladdy Jr.?
Starting point is 00:09:46 I am, but being a Toronto, someone who grew up in Toronto with the Blue Jays and with all sports teams from Toronto, I've learned to hedge my aspirations and dreams because... That's safe, I think. Because right now, I don't know, we got it with everything now because I'm excited about the Leafs right now because Tavares is in town and I'm like, oh my God, I'm trying to temper that
Starting point is 00:10:08 and at the same time, I'm excited about the Raptors because Kawhi Leonard is in town and I'm trying to temper that and although the Jays are terrible right now and I actually can't watch them right now,
Starting point is 00:10:16 but you're still watching. It's the past couple of days I haven't really been watching. It's been a rough, it's been a very emotional year for the Jays and I've like followed and then unfollowed and followed. It's just a rough, it's been a very emotional year for the Jays. And I've like followed and then unfollowed and followed. It's just
Starting point is 00:10:27 It's a tough year to follow this team. It's a lot of feelings right now. And we're so fresh off 2015 and 2016 when it was like appointment viewing. It was perfect. Right. And then this season's been kind of a disaster on like so many fronts, like from Osuna, who saw that coming, to like
Starting point is 00:10:44 Donaldson and Tulewitzki and Sanchez. All these injuries. And then you got Stroman blow-ups and you just have a difficult team to embrace, I find. It feels almost as if right now it'd be polite to just look away
Starting point is 00:11:00 and let them get their stuff together and then when they let us know, we can look back. I think we all have 20-20 vision. That's what I understand. So we might have one more crappy year and then hopefully we're competitive again. But okay, so 363 is the Johnny O episode. So welcome.
Starting point is 00:11:15 I picked the right number for you. I know that he doesn't have his name up on the Skydome right now. Oh, the level of excellence. Who should be the next one? Halliday's on there, right? I believe so. so yeah he went on like opening day or something i'm wondering who is like and fernandez is up there right yes fernandez is up there george bell is up there i'm trying to think dave steve's up there george uh alamar's up there absolutely it's the hall of fame you know i don't
Starting point is 00:11:41 know who's up next but uh yeah i was think i just had before you arrived mark hebbshire was here and we were talking and there was one point before all the rude when he was still a puppy before he was uh blue jay there was a moment a season where the jays had three first basemen and they were willie upshaw fred mcgriff and cecil fielder and we were just like that's his position and if you think that delgado came up as a first baseman and then you think about that position, we've always been pretty, like pretty strong
Starting point is 00:12:09 at first base. Like, so Johnny O is just one of the many grades we had there. So the origin of your name, we talked about, did you want to disclose like a real name
Starting point is 00:12:18 or do you just want to be Jody's jumpsuit? It's actually, I can disclose my real name because I am, I'm writing in the past year I've started writing. Not very much, but I believe it's probably best for me to start. It's your call. No pressure. My name is kind of silly. My real name. It's a, it's a
Starting point is 00:12:33 hyphenated name. It's a Crystal Rose Midor and Crystal Rose is my first name, but most people just call me Crystal or Chris. And so, uh, it being such an odd name and all these people, uh, commenting on it made it really easy for me to pick anonymous names. But you almost don't need an anonymous name when your name's Crystal Rose. Like that is your, that is the anonymous handle, which is not so anonymous. Like, you know what I mean? It's true. It's true. I think we rebrand you. Look, TMDS, it's my new digital services company. Hand over the keys to the Jody's Jumpsuit Enterprise and I'll rebrand you as Crystal Rose.
Starting point is 00:13:09 We'll go from there. I have a few things I want to say. Have you ever kayaked or rode any device on the Humber River? No, I have not. I can now say I have because I did it yesterday for the first time. And how was it? It was great. So like I've been,
Starting point is 00:13:27 I bike a lot and I always lived in the West End. So like the Humber River, I don't know how many hours I've spent kind of alongside the Humber River. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And I'm, for years now and I'm biking the trails or whatever and I can see the river or whatever and I see a kayaker. You especially see it
Starting point is 00:13:43 by that Humber Bay Arc Bridge where the Humber dumps into the lake and i see these kayakers and i always kind of remark to myself or anyone who would listen i'm like uh like i want to do that like why have i not done that like i want to kayak the humber river so yesterday for two hours i rented a kayak at the near the old mill and then like between that old mill bridge and queensway basically i paddled the river and then there's all these marshes that you probably don't even kayak near the Old Mill. And then between that Old Mill Bridge and Queensway, basically, I paddled the river. And then there's all these marshes that you probably don't even know are there. I went off and did all that.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And yeah, two hours yesterday. And it was fun. That's great. Was it refreshing? Was there anything surprising? Did I fall in? Is that your next question? Crystal Rose? Crystal Rose? I can call you that? Yes. Surprising? Not just surprising. I didn't really know about all the marshes. And yes uh surprising not just surprising i didn't really know about all the marshes like so you go and i guess the other thing that i didn't really
Starting point is 00:14:29 know i didn't really think about is all these rich people homes that kind of overlook the water like you don't think about that on the humber river yeah they're all like these weird kind of cliff yeah yeah yeah yeah and i'm like oh like somebody lives there like and and then these marshes which are really quiet of course because they're off the river and they got they got docks and boats like it's a muskoka or something i know it's and it's hidden like most people don't even realize that it's i don't know i didn't know until yesterday and i'm like oh like that like imagine you lived here and like this is your backyard and like you got your uh whatever your kayak kind of tied up or whatever like you don't need a cottage yeah you can just hang out here all the time and it's great.
Starting point is 00:15:05 So if you ever want to, we can also rent a two-person kayak. I only had a one-person, but you and I could do a kayak at Humber if you want to do it. That would be exciting. And we could document the experience. So the other thing is, for my buddy Humble Howard, he remarked recently, he remarked the two things that he hated. He hated kayaking and natural peanut butter. And I told him that kayaking and natural peanut butter are two of my, actually two of my favorite things in he hated. He hated kayaking and natural peanut butter. And I told him that
Starting point is 00:15:25 kayaking and natural peanut butter are two of my, actually two of my favorite things in the world. Really? Yeah. And I was going to ask you whether, like, do you like peanut butter? I do like peanut butter. Do you buy like the processed, like the Skippy or the Kraft peanut butter? Or do you buy natural peanut butter? Oh, I buy Planters peanut butter. Absolutely. I don't buy the natural stuff. Okay. So they, there's,
Starting point is 00:15:47 there's, there's, I don't mind the stirring. This is what his complaint is. But, uh, yeah, but you keep in the fridge and you do some stirring.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Cause yeah, that oil separates and you got, you need to kind of stir in the oil to keep it from hardening your stuff. But it's not that, I mean, it's, it's just a better for you and it's a tasty as all crap, man.
Starting point is 00:16:04 It's wonderful. That's the wrong expression for that. It's tasty as all hell. It's not that, I mean, it's just better for you and it's tasty as all crap, man. It's wonderful. That's the wrong expression for that. It's tasty as all hell. It's tasty as all crap. It's great. No, I like, I've actually done a thread on them because part of my Twitter persona is just threads about random everything.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Right, we're going to get to a bunch of these threads. So you did a thread on peanut butter. Yeah. So you had this and that one. Okay, so what are your thoughts on peanut butter? Oh, it wasn't anything about about the quality or the texture. It was just a silly fantasy of the planter's peanut man essentially stalking and bringing peanuts into his factory
Starting point is 00:16:35 to crush them into peanut butter. You make a good point, which is that the peanut is murdering. This is genocide, right? Imagine a guy in front of a jar with like pureed human remains being like this is great stuff and it's just it's really weird when you think about it it's genocide let's just call it what it is and the united nations needs to be involved i would say but you know he's a monocle right yeah much like the monopoly guy like are they somehow affiliated i wonder if it's part of a game. Is it the same guys at the Monopoly man
Starting point is 00:17:05 who's gone through a horrible Kafka-esque transformation? Oh, like metamorphosis, right? Yeah. Right. I like how you think. Thank you. That's why you're here, because I like your tweets. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And we mentioned already on Twitter, because this is how... I mean, you do some writing somewhere else. We're going to talk about that. But you are at Jody's Jumpsuit if somebody wants to check out these threads. Okay. So do you listen?
Starting point is 00:17:28 And I said you're younger than me because I really do believe you are. I believe I have 10 years on you. Do you want to disclose your age or you don't have to? I will because my birthday is on Monday. Okay. I've got...
Starting point is 00:17:38 How old are you on Monday? I'll be 37 on Monday. Okay. It's not quite a decade, but I do have a good seven years on you. Oh, that's not very much decade, but I do have a good seven years on you. Oh, that's not very much at all. It feels like,
Starting point is 00:17:50 it's significant in the John Olerud history. It's true, yeah. You were about like, I'd say, mid-teens when the World Series happened. I was a teenager. I was like 10, 11. Right, right, right, right. Do you, as a person of that age,
Starting point is 00:18:02 you might, but I want to hear, do you listen to terrestrial radio anymore? No, I don't. I just kind of stopped doing that completely and it like i remember when i was like 20 it was all i listened to throughout my being a teenager and i loved humble and fred i remember when they were because you were a uh an 102.1 the edge gal i was yeah i was i was listening i was uh in bowmanville at the time. I lived in Bowmanville for a few years. And that was my like one connection to Toronto was listening to the Humble and Fred radio show every morning as I was getting up and getting ready for school. And yeah, I really enjoyed it. But now it's just kind of dispersed for me. Like as you get older, and I guess once you have kids, then like your attention and stuff kind of just all falls apart.
Starting point is 00:18:44 And I guess once you have kids, then like your attention and stuff kind of just all falls apart. Because you have a child. Yeah. Well, that's kind of me blaming my kid. That's not true. Your child won't let you listen to terrestrial radio. No, it's more like he wants to listen to certain things and my partner wants to listen to certain things. And we all have specific ideas and we've kind of lost that casual like, hey, let's just throw something on and see what we like.
Starting point is 00:19:07 We've become much more demanding. And I think that's kind of taken away our spontaneity. But you don't have a vehicular commute. Because a vehicular commute is a big, that's a big terrestrial radio crowd, I think. Yeah. Yeah. If you're commuting or anything like that. Or no, it's like, what do you mean by a car?
Starting point is 00:19:22 Yeah. Yes. Vehicular. I thought I'd bring up the big word. You mentioned you had some education or something and I thought you could handle vehicular. I can handle vehicular. I was just thinking about like in general,
Starting point is 00:19:33 it's like, yeah, but people who commute do lots of podcasts. That's true. So yeah, it's a very different. So here's some terrestrial radio news.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Like this used to be, I was thinking like I've been blogging since 2002 at torontomic.com. And there was a time in the history of torontomic.com where this event that I'm about to tell you about would be like stop the presses, full man, full press. Like we need to like be on this thing. This is massive. It was big news. And now it seems like I hear like very few people seem to care or notice.
Starting point is 00:20:04 It's such a different era when it comes to terrestrial radio. But you mentioned you used to listen to 102.1. Yeah. Could you tell me who the morning show on 102.1 is right now? I think they just changed it two days ago. You are savvy. Yesterday, I think. But who is it? Do you do you know i i had sounds like you've done some uh homework you've done some uh reading on this uh no i i i i think i saw the tweet it was like they were like big changes at 9 30 a.m and i was like well i need to know what that's oh you know what that was different that was actually i think uh belly talent i think was announcing some benefit for the danforth that was actually that was that Oh, I see. I thought it was the new hosts.
Starting point is 00:20:46 No, but okay. So it was Adam and Mel. So Adam is actually a previous guest on Toronto Mic. He's a, remember when I asked you to watch your head when you came down here? And it turned out you were able to stand fully erect and not hit your head. And I'm wearing heels. And you're wearing heels. So Adam, he had to crouch down. Adam's tall man like this is a tall guy but uh Adam Adam Ricard I believe is his name anyway Adam and Mel were the morning show on
Starting point is 00:21:13 102.1 and they were let go oh I know it's sad that's radio though people get let go all the time so uh also this is another piece of news that came out, Fearless Fred, who was the afternoon guy, afternoon drive, he's switching from 102.1 to Q107, which is in the same building and owned by the same company. So what we have here is a simultaneous removal of a morning show and an afternoon drive. And the only other times I can think of that happening and there were format changes. But I have a firm, strong belief that they are not changing the format of Edge 102. So this is just like
Starting point is 00:21:52 a massive refresh that's going down at 102.1. Yeah, that's odd. Are you the new morning show host? No, I am not. And this is your audition. Oh, it is? Well, I have failed it.
Starting point is 00:22:03 We'll decide that in 90 minutes okay so uh okay i just wondered did that do you care you don't listen to 102.1 are you naturally just curious about things does this mean anything to you um it does like in a nostalgic point of way but mostly for me i feel like edge 102 is for younger people now and uh I hope all the best for them. It was such a big part of my life growing up that I hope that it's still there and like as vibrant and useful as it was when I was a kid. So at 37, you feel too old for them.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I think they actually technically target 18 to 34. I think that's like their demo they target. So you're just outside the demo. I'm just outside of it. So close, so close. Coincidentally, and it's really just completely coincidentally, Humble and Fred, who we mentioned, they had a five-year deal on SiriusXM,
Starting point is 00:22:51 and Sirius did not renew this deal, and they are no longer on SiriusXM. But thanks to a wonderful guy named Toronto Mike, Humble and Fred are podcasting every day. They don't need a radio station for people to hear them. And that would be great for me. I can't wait. I'll start following that podcast immediately.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Are you subscribed to this one first? Yes, I am. Okay, then you can follow theirs as well. Okay. Just want to make sure. So 102.1, big changes. Are you aware that the TTC has like a new voice for like etiquette
Starting point is 00:23:20 or I don't know what they call this, the etiquette voice. Are you aware of this? Yeah, it's Seth Rogen. That's right. That's right. Do you want to hear a little bit of Seth doing that? And then we can chat about that.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Okay. I loaded up a few here. Let's listen to Seth. Hey, TTC customers, fellow Canadian Seth Rogen here. I can't believe I'm actually going to say this, but stop clipping your fingernails on the TTC. It's gross. Which brings me to eating dinner,
Starting point is 00:23:46 dinner on the subway, and then leaving a mess for people to step in and the TTC workers to clean up. Seriously, don't do any of this on the TTC. I can't believe I have to say this. Just stop. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:24:01 So there's one on, we'll call that grooming and eating etiquette. so what did you think um don't tell me what to do seth rogan but would you rather it would be just like a generic voice being like you know you just want nobody to nobody to tell you what to do over the loudspeaker well it's it's funny because when i think of ttc loudspeakers, I think of like the wah, wah, wah type of sound. So I'm excited to find out what Seth Rogen sounds like with that wah, wah, wah type of filter over top. But I disagree with him on the eating.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I would have liked to have had some more community involvement on what the rules should be. Because I think people should be allowed to eat on the TTC. Don't make a mess, obviously. Don't splatter other passengers with your food. But you could eat a sandwich. But yeah, if you're eating a Big Mac, just like scarf it down. It's not a big deal.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And take the garbage with you. Yeah, absolutely. That seems reasonable and rational because people have to get places and it takes a long time on the TTC, as we all know. And so why begrudge someone a snack? I don't really see the point of that. What about grooming though?
Starting point is 00:25:08 Do you agree with him on that one? I agree with him on that one. We should keep, we should do all of our grooming at home or in like a bathroom or anywhere that's a little bit more private. I should just start grooming is what you're saying. Maybe anywhere is good. Just Mike, start grooming. All right, let's hear it. This one's
Starting point is 00:25:24 on a brand new thing. They haven't even launched this yet. I don't know when they do, but there's a two-hour transfer thing, and this is exciting new development. Let's hear Seth. Hey, TTC riders. Seth Rogen here, and I'm going to try to explain this new thing you can do with your Presto card. You can hop off the TTC, grab some munchies, hang out for a bit,
Starting point is 00:25:43 do whatever you want to do, and then hop back on the TTC in under two munchies, hang out for a bit, do whatever you want to do, and then hop back on the TTC in under two hours, and it's free. It's a two-hour hop on, hop off, do what you want to do, and then get back on thing. And it's pretty sweet. I explained that well. That's good. I like, and I know, I don't know, I haven't heard a lot of complaints, but he is a Vancouver guy.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Like, he's not a Toronto guy. But he's, I mean, Canadian's Canadian. Like he's not a Toronto guy, but he's, I mean, Canadians, Canadian, like I'm not going to get too picky on that. I think it's a, I think it's funny.
Starting point is 00:26:09 And I think, I think this is all good. I think, yeah, I think any celebrity attention brought to our public transportation system, what's going on with it right now is great. I want as much attention and appreciation showing up as much as possible. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:26:24 that two hour transfer thing is a great idea especially for parents who have kids with extracurriculars if you're taking them to somewhere that extracurricular is usually about an hour long or whatever so you can get things done and it's not going to cost you so much fantastic but what if we did like local like local independent people like like for example what if one of those things was done by Mark Weisblot of 1236 that would be fantastic or Ed Conroy of Retro Ontario
Starting point is 00:26:49 who I want to meet one day that's on my list okay listen whereabouts in the city do you live I'm at like the Raunsee High Park
Starting point is 00:26:56 area oh my god you're a West End girl listen oh my gosh so close to the Humber River listen to this
Starting point is 00:27:02 there is on September 12 there is a Toronto Mike listener experience taking place at Great Lakes Brewery. Oh wow. And they are like, I'm going to say closest intersection I'm going to say is Royal York and Queensway. But that's super like convenient for you.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, it is. You should come to this. You should come. Mark's going to be there, but Ed Conroy will be there. I could introduce you to Retro Ontario's Ed Conroy. Oh, that would be fantastic. I'd love to join.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I'd love to come. And I'm serious because I'm going to remind you of this closer to the event. And everybody listening is invited to come meet Jodi's jumpsuit. That's my new promotion. I'm going to get a poster made. So it is September 12 from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Great Lakes Brewery. Please come by. You get your first glass of beer, a 12-ounce glass of beer, is on the house, courtesy of Great Lakes. So they'll give you a beer for free. They have this fantastic new food truck there. So, I mean, everybody enjoyed
Starting point is 00:28:01 the food truck at the last Toronto Mic Listener Experience. So come hungry. And the pints are only $5 on the nice patio after your free beer. They're only $5 pints. Chat me up. Meet people, some other celebrities. Hebsey's going to be there. A whole bunch of other former guests are going to be there. We have a live band called the Royal Pains.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Oh, wow. And they're really good. They do covers of awesome 90s songs, which I quite like. And if anyone out there actually wants to have good, solid live music at their event, they should go to theroyalpains.com, contact
Starting point is 00:28:38 Al at The Royal Pains, and hire that band to do your event. They're just amazing. So all this is going down September 12. And confirmed. Should I write this in my blood here? This is a permanent thing. You're really going to be there?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Are you going to tell me, oh, I have to be home with my child? I was just telling you that because we were recording. Is that what's going to go down here? You've kind of got me into a corner. But no, absolutely, enthusiastically, yes. I'll be there. Good. And to whet your appetite. yes. I'll be there. Good. And to whet your appetite, see what I'm doing here?
Starting point is 00:29:07 Wet with an H. That's right. There's a six pack in front of you. And I want you to take that home with you today. This is the greatest. I'm going to consider this a birthday gift as opposed to a podcast gift. It is a birthday because I knew I did some homework. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 You don't have a wiki page, but I just started asking people in your neighborhood. Yeah. Yeah, no, this is fantastic. This is really exciting. I really suggest coming to Toronto Mike podcast because you get six beers and just before a long weekend too. It's very nice. Absolutely. Absolutely. So you're taking that home with you. Great Lakes Brewery giving you a beer. They're great, great people. Again, we're all getting together on September 12th let's hear one more Seth Rogen clip this is like his thank you so let's hear that
Starting point is 00:29:52 hey TTC customers it's your friend Seth Rogen here this time no lectures no finger pointing not coming down on you with any new rules just a friendly Toronto hey and a thank you for riding the TTC and being cool with each other.
Starting point is 00:30:08 So we like that one, right? We do. I've warmed up to Seth Rogen. Is there anyone you could think of who is more local that you think would have been better? Well, we could, like, I don't know. It's like 20 years ago. I've been like, Jim Carrey would be fantastic. But I don't know. It's like 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:30:25 I've been like, Jim Carrey would be fantastic. But I don't know. It's weird. We have such an influx of what's going on for celebrities. But yeah, Seth Rogen's pretty dependable. So yeah, awesome. Cool. I was thinking maybe Sarah Pauly.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Isn't she living here now? But I think Seth is great because he's got that great voice anyway. I find it funny just hearing him talk talk like something about his delivery or whatever i think he needs an announcement to say like to let people know that it's 4 20 like i think like at 4 20 you play seth rogan letting you know it's 4 20 i think that would be that would be hilarious i'm gonna give you another gift if that's okay because i know your birthday's coming up here now this is uh i want to take credit for this because it makes me feel seem like thoughtful guy, but all I got you was the glass of water you're drinking. But the six packs from Great Lakes Brewery, there's a pint glass in front of
Starting point is 00:31:11 you. That is courtesy of Brian Gerstein. Oh, thank you, Brian. Brian, he was at the first Toronto Listener Experience, and I'm not certain he can make this one because he's traveling. I have to confirm with him, so I don't want to commit him to this one. But he had a great time at the first one. He's a big Montreal Expos fan. But more importantly, he's a real estate sales representative of PSR Brokerage.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So tell me, you're living in the Ronces area. Yes. Beautiful area. Yes. Lots of Polish stuff going on there, right? They got the Polish festival and everything going on there, which likes to compete with the Ukrainian festival and bluer West village.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And they battle it out. Yes. Just like the olden days. So tell me, uh, you own this home. No, I rent.
Starting point is 00:31:56 You rent. Yes. So if you let no pressure here, but if you, uh, ever in the market, uh, to buy,
Starting point is 00:32:03 you contact Brian, his numbers on that thing. But let's hear, Brian's got a question for you. Oh, you contact Brian. His number's on that thing. But let's hear. Brian's got a question for you. Oh, wow. Okay. So let's hear from Brian. Propertyinthe6.com Hi, Jody's Jumpsuit.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Brian Gerstein here, sales representative with PSR Brokerage and proud sponsor of Toronto Might. 416-873-0292 is the number to call or text me for any of your real estate needs. I happen to catch your Twitter diatribe against my beloved Coffee Crisp, which I snapped a picture of and sent to Mike, who can indeed confirm they are in my fridge. I have always felt that Coffee Crisp makes a nice light snack and for you to berate it like that let me just say this is a hill that I'm prepared to die on. Mike I implore you to
Starting point is 00:32:52 run a Twitter poll for your listeners for yay or nay to Coffee Crisp. If I win then Jodi's Jumpsuit has to send me a dozen regular size Coffee Crisp bars and if she wins then i will send her the same for her beloved smarties all right tell us what we're talking about here you uh you don't like coffee crisp i don't like coffee crisp and uh it's been a kind of a running gag for a few years on my twitter thing where uh and people assume that I've eaten Coffee Crisp when I go on these random rants, and I'll clarify that right now. I don't eat Coffee Crisp. I'm just reminded of it,
Starting point is 00:33:32 and then I just am like, mmm. When was the last time you had one? Like, were you young? No, no, no. It was a couple of years ago when there was a bite-size Halloween snack Coffee Crisp, and I was like, I can eat this one. It was at the bottom of my kid's Halloween bag. So I did it, and I live-tweeted the experience, and I was like, I can eat this one. It was at the bottom of my kid's Halloween bag. So I did it and I live tweeted the experience and people were offended.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And so, yeah, there's a large group of people in Toronto who are not happy with my disgust of Coffee Crisp. Well, I'm going to side with Brian here and I'm not happy with this at all. I believe it might be my favorite chocolate bar. Like Coffee Crisp. Really? It's fantastic. And I like to break it because there's that part that
Starting point is 00:34:12 comes off, breaks apart. And I like to separate them and do them separate. So you like it because it deteriorates in your hands. No. It's multi-compartmentalized. It's very well designed and built. I don't believe, I'm trying to remember, is this the coffee, is this
Starting point is 00:34:28 the one that's Canadian only? Is it in England or is it just here? No, it's just here. This is a monstrosity. More reason to love it. Like ketchup chips. More reason to love it. Although I actually don't really like ketchup chips, but don't tell anyone that. Oh my goodness. That's your favorite, right? Are we breaking up? No, we're not
Starting point is 00:34:43 breaking up. I'm just pointing out we have differences and you like disgusting gross my goodness it's your favorite right are we breaking up no we're not breaking up it's just i'm just pointing out we have we have differences and you like disgusting gross things that's all and more disturbing like first of all you don't like coffee crisp which is this way but you're praising smarties smarties are uh they're kind of kind of not not great like they're candy coated chocolate but i actually think m&msM's taste better. I know that's the American version because that's another Canadian only thing, Smarties, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Well, they have Smarties in America, but it's more of like the sugary. Oh, that's the Rockets. They are Rockets, but like larger. So they don't have our Smarties. No. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:35:18 This Twitter poll I'm supposed to do, like, are you in on this? I heard Brian mentioned something and I was thinking he was going to talk about those. You know how you go to like Walmartmart and for two bucks you get like 10 mini yeah that like that like sleeve right i thought he was going there and then he's like 12 full size and my brain's doing the math you're gonna have to take out like a loan i think to if you lose it i have to get another job it's gonna be like that's a like that's a big that's
Starting point is 00:35:43 12 full-size coffee crisp i think full-size coffee crisp are they like uh they're like at least a dollar 50 each or something i don't know maybe i'm out to lunch on this but they're just expensive they are they're really expensive for sawdust it's crazy like so what am i to do here am i to put up a twitter poll to say something like, what's better, Coffee Crisp or Smarties? And then if Smarties wins, he buys you, like I guess 12 packs of Smarties and if Coffee Crisp wins,
Starting point is 00:36:14 are you in on this? I'm just the middleman here. You're in on this? I'm in on this, but let me just explain why Smarties are great and how they differ from M&M's. M&M's have the hard candy shell,
Starting point is 00:36:24 but it's a thicker hard candy shell, whereas Smarties have this thinner candy shell, which is perfect, and they're flat enough and they're large enough that you can just crack them on your teeth, and then you can peel the candy shell off. So you're also playing with your food, like I play with my coffee cup. You're separating your Smarties the way I separate my coffee cups.
Starting point is 00:36:42 But in my mouth. Okay. All right, I'm not anti-Smart your smarties the way i separate my coffee but in my mouth okay all right i'm not anti-smarties by the way i just think this was better and the chocolate is far superior and i like the taste of the colors but can you tell the difference like in a blind taste test all the colors you can they're all going to taste the same right no not the red ones are you sure yes because remember do you remember those old if you eat your smarties do you eat the red ones last do you sure? Yes. Because remember, do you remember those old commercials? Do you eat the red ones last? Do you suck them very slowly or crunch them very fast? Candied coated chocolate. So tell me when I ask,
Starting point is 00:37:10 when you eat your Smarties, do you eat the red ones last? Yeah, I think that's for sure. But I don't believe, and this is something we'd have to do separately, but in a blind taste test, I don't believe you can tell the difference between the colors
Starting point is 00:37:22 because I don't believe there's a taste difference. I think they're just throwing some food coloring in the candy and it's just a bunch of sugar with different shades of food coloring. That's my feeling on this, but we'd have to prove this. So I will do that, okay? At some point, I'll do this Twitter poll, but what I think you'll do and you should do
Starting point is 00:37:38 because I want you to win this even though I'm a pro coffee crisp. I think you will tell the Jody Jumpsuits faithful you have a loyal Twitter coffee crisp i think you will tell the jody jumpsuits faithful you have a loyal twitter follower following i think you'll get them to um you know stuff the ballot box in your favor you underestimate my audience they i think they lots of them hate follow me purely over the coffee crisp stance so they will enjoy making me do something in labor for coffee crisp oh this okay well brian will take that okay so i will do that and um yeah okay so you don't like coffee
Starting point is 00:38:11 crisp interesting interesting now the first time i heard uh of jody's jumpsuit uh was when you did a twitter tweet storm is that what we call them you do i guess i call them threads threads okay a storm sounds much more... Violent? Yeah, or authoritative. Oh, I like that. So you're... And I'm definitely calling it a storm.
Starting point is 00:38:30 You're tweet storm on Honest Ed's. Oh. So were you a Twitter, Toronto Twitter famous before the Honest Ed's thing? I don't even know if I'm Toronto Twitter famous now, but I guess I am.
Starting point is 00:38:44 But you're on Toronto Mike. I know. Now I'll make you famous. Star is born. It's great. I guess maybe a little bit. I had a little bit of influence. And yeah, I wrote that thread.
Starting point is 00:38:58 It was just from the news that they were tearing it down. And so it was actually in between the time I had to go pick up my kid from school. So I was literally tweeting it and walking and I didn't realize how it would just blow up, but it did. So it was, it was lovely because I was able to, so many people responded to that so emotionally with their own memories. And it was just a great feeling of like, yes, closure on what was going on. And you got what I would call like Twitter buzz, like in that, you know, you didn't have to follow Jodi's jumpsuit to kind of be exposed to this thread, which is nice. Like, I don't know, did Twitter Canada like share it as something or
Starting point is 00:39:37 other or was it? Yeah, they put it together in a moment and then they distributed it or like, I guess they highlighted it in their feeds. and that's where i got a lot of attention from it was the first time that ever happened it was it was uh exhilarating well you should be honored because i'm literally i'm friends now we've become friends he's been a guest on the show with the the communications director of communications for twitter canada has been on the show and is now a friend and he his name is cam gordon oh and he hooked me up with stew stone which was like a recent like awesome episode that you should listen to and i can't get a twitter moment so you uh
Starting point is 00:40:11 you're great too that's good for you that you had this exposure and cam why don't i get a twitter moment i have none of my tweets been worthy of a twitter moment but okay so the honest ed's thing now i even saw people like the legendary Aaron Davis, for example, seems to be a Jodi Jumpsuit fan. Is that right? She is amazing. I adore her. She's just fantastic.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yeah, she's been following me for a while, and I've been following her. And she's just so lovely and decent and great. And it's an honor for her to actually like everything that I do. It's just great. I believe she's in Seattle right now to watch. When the Jays play in Seattle, it's apparently louder, pro Jays louder than Rogers.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And I think she's there because she's a West Coast gal now. I know. Victoria, I don't know, some Vancouver Island. What do I know? All these nice islands over there. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:41:00 We got marshes here, okay? We have a marsh off the Humber River called Turtle Marsh and I was paddling quietly around it all by myself. There was no other human in sight. And I now know, I knew right away why it was called Turtle Marsh. There are all these like logs there with like several turtles like sunning on these logs. I saw so many turtles. And I wanted to take a picture because I thought my four-year-old would get off. I'd be so excited to see all these turtles. And I'm on a'm on a kayak. I'm really quiet, quietly getting
Starting point is 00:41:28 closer. I'm lining up my shot. Let's say in this shot, there was eight turtles on the shot. Just before I snapped the shot, four of them jumped into the water. I guess they sensed me too close or whatever. There's only four in the shot. Turtle Marsh was appropriately named. me like too close or whatever and so there's only four in the shot but uh yeah turtle marsh was appropriately named that sounds great it is great jody it's very great i saw all these turtles yesterday and like i felt like i and and and um how did i get to turtles oh yeah well so aaron davis is a fan of yours uh are there any other uh advocates that are uh noteworthy advocates that
Starting point is 00:42:01 you want to run down like uh pumping your tires? Oh, well... Besides Mark Weisblatt? Oh, now I'm on the spot. There's dozens of people. Just let them all know that I adore them. All of you out there. There's noteworthy names.
Starting point is 00:42:18 There's noteworthy... We're like quiet. Let's call them quiet or not yet discovered people who are fantastic. And yeah, my follower list is just filled with great people. And I follow a lot of great people. And you mentioned earlier that you had been published somewhere beyond Twitter. Yeah. So tell me what this is about.
Starting point is 00:42:39 I got a couple of short comedic articles published by CBC and the Yummy Mummy Club last year. That's the Erica M. Enterprise. Yeah. Do you know I asked her to come on the show? We were chatting and she said, Mike, I'm done talking about much music. She says, I don't want to talk about much music. She told that to me. Oh.
Starting point is 00:42:58 I know. And we politely agreed, whatever. I'm not going to have her on and not talk about much music, right? So it didn't happen. But then subsequent, somebody pointed out to me subsequently, she did do something talking about much music.
Starting point is 00:43:12 Like, so now I'm taking it very personally because it turned out it wasn't a, I no longer talk about much music. It was, I no longer talk about much music on your podcast, Mike. That's how I'm taking it.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Erica M. I spent so many hours watching Erica M your podcast, Mike. That's how I'm taking it. Erica M. I spent so many hours watching Erica M. Anyway, that's my Erica M. So you wrote for Yummy Mummy Club. Yes. I think you should just let it go. Maybe talk to her again. Maybe that was just a moment in passing
Starting point is 00:43:37 which she felt very strongly about. Maybe she's reconsidered. Yeah, so I wrote that for CBC. And it was really exciting. It's the first time i've ever been published really for anything and uh going forward it was like you're supposed to have a couple of articles published before you can actually start pitching anything so i'm at this weird point in my i guess new foundling career from twitter fame in which i can actually people
Starting point is 00:44:03 are asking me what do you want to do? And writing might be a part of it. I do write a lot and that's obviously how I've gotten bigger on Twitter than I expected. But people are asking me all the time, what are you going to do next with this? And a co-worker of mine is telling me to go on YouTube, but YouTube is terrifying to me. What about a podcast? Well, podcast might be... But this is your first foray. Like, if this goes well, you might have this renewed confidence. I might. I might.
Starting point is 00:44:30 I do have the ability to do so. We were looking at doing a podcast for Throwback Cinema a few months ago, but schedules weren't really working with me and the other individual, but we hope to maybe get something back up soon. By the way, Throwback Cinema... I was going to say, obvious, I'd be a terrible host if I didn't ask this. Tell me, what is Throwback Cinema? Okay, well, Throwback Cinema is a program that I've been doing for just over a year now at Review Cinema, which is at 400 Ronsville. So it's right at the corner of Howard Park and Ronsie. And Review Cinema is the oldest continuously operating cinema in the city right now and it's
Starting point is 00:45:06 been around for over 100 years it's run by the executive programmer Eric Villette he's fantastic he actually reached out to me over a year ago and yeah through Twitter and said hey I know you're in the neighborhood would you be interested in doing a movie program what what would that look like to you and so I thought about it I was like well love the review. It's just this one screen movie theater that shows literally anything and everything you can think of. And so I decided to throw back cinema, which is movies from like the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s that people saw as kids that they want to see with their own kids
Starting point is 00:45:38 or they want to just read. Like Goonies. Yeah, like Goonies. Our first movie that we did was The NeverEnding Story. Coming up in August, well, we're now in August, on August 25th and 26th at 1.30 p.m., we're showing Stand By Me. Great one. So it's all these movies that you may have seen in the movie theater or just missed out on seeing them while they were actually showing the movie theater. You can come back now and see it on your own, see it with your family.
Starting point is 00:46:01 And we try to keep it more family oriented just because it's in the middle of the daytime. We want people to have those experiences with their kids of going out to the show. Have you done the Karate Kid yet? Yes, we did it in June. I love the Karate Kid. Oh, it's fantastic. I watched that over and over again. I thought it was amazing. So Throwback Cinema, which is cinema, not seenima, it turns out. I've been saying it wrong my whole life. It's cinema. I just heard you say cinema.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Well, don't look to me for authority on anything. I look to you for authority on everything. Okay. I'll be very honest with you. Very cool. Throwback cinema. And what is it I wanted to ask you about? Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:40 So are there any Twitter tweet storms that you want to shed some light on or do you just want people to discover them? Like you pinned a bunch to your Twitter feed I saw. But are there any, like I mentioned the Honest Ed's one and we talked now about the Coffee Crisp one as well. But are there any you want to chat about briefly here before we kick out the jams? Because I forgot to tell everybody listening
Starting point is 00:47:01 that we're going to kick out the jams and learn a lot more about you that way. Well, if you want to go to my Twitter feed're going to kick out the jams and learn a lot more about you that way but um well it's if you want to go to my uh twitter feed and just check them out there's there there are a bunch of random stories sometimes they're very serious and emotional and most of the time they're kind of silly or funny about something that's happened to me in the past um one that people keep on bringing up to me is it's now long gone but it was the roncesvalles subway sandwich franchise that was there and i one day in a fit of anger i was just like we have to talk about this and i listed all the things
Starting point is 00:47:32 that were wrong with it in like a comedic way and people still come up to me and go oh that thread that was so great that like totally was cathartic for me with the subway ronzi which is long gone i had nothing to do with them like losing out on anything they did it to themselves you have another fan i i gave you a chance to mention him but you didn't but i uh you know i i noticed gourd perks is a fan right i hope so yeah he's he's so nice to me and he's he's always uh yeah i i think he's a swell counselor and i really like how he represents our ward i so yeah so he's your counselor councillor, and I really like how he represents our ward. So, yeah, so he's your councillor, city councillor.
Starting point is 00:48:11 And he recently, and I wanted your opinion on this too, as a citizen of this fine city, Toronto, the, you know, Doug Ford, you might have read about this, Doug Ford wants to reduce the number of councillors. And even if you agree with the policy, it's tough to kind of agree with the, what I would say, the process. But Gord made a very impassioned speech at City Hall. I thought it was very good. I meant to pull it to play it now, but you jammed up against Hebsey and I didn't have a chance.
Starting point is 00:48:38 But that's okay. I just want to say that I liked what Gord had to say about this Doug Ford decision. Do you have any thoughts on Doug Ford, the premier of this province? I have a lot of thoughts about Doug Ford. And if you follow my Twitter feed, you'll see lots of it, which I apologize for. I try not to become too obsessive. I don't agree with how he has decided to go about this. And I don't agree with what seems to be his motivations.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And I just don't think that anything that he's shown so far is anything even remotely looking like good governance. And that's really concerning to me, considering that he has another four years at the helm. And I'm actually really happy about Gord Perks coming forward and being so active and focused because when Rob Ford was mayor of Toronto and everything that blew up with that, Gord Perks made a very well-reasoned essay talking about like, let's let the system do its thing. Let's not, you know, lose our minds. But he's seen how that's gone through and now with the rise of Doug Ford and the the complete throwing out of any sort of decorum or process I like that he's now like okay no this is
Starting point is 00:49:53 enough we need to actually deal with this now in a different way as opposed to focusing on you know believing our institutions will actually move forward with, you know, the plot process because our institutions are being damaged and made redundant almost by it. It's interesting that Rob Ford exposed these gaping holes in the process because a lot of, I almost want to say as Canadians, Torontonians, Ontarians, Canadians, we're almost too polite. There's a politeness at play, like this kindness and politeness that's sort of inherently assumed. And we have these processes where, for example, nobody envisions a mayor as unpopular as Rob was
Starting point is 00:50:33 with that going on that Rob would not resign. There was sort of these assumptions that Rob would step down. And there was nothing we could do in the rules to remove Rob Ford, you know. And similarly, I think what we're seeing now is that there's actually, if you look at the rules as they're written, like we never really considered the fact that possibility
Starting point is 00:50:55 that a premier of Ontario could kind of hate Toronto. You know what I mean? Because I think it was, you know, Toronto is a good percentage of this province. And Doug correctly realized that he doesn't actually need Toronto. mean because i think it was you know toronto is a good percentage of this province and uh doug uh correctly realized that he doesn't actually need uh toronto's votes to have a majority government but it's almost like this this polite civil assumption didn't account for the fords of the world yeah and yeah the those are the process like like letting the process unfold. No, because Doug has, not only does he have a majority and support of his MPPs,
Starting point is 00:51:30 but he has the legal right to sort of destroy the city in many which ways, including this one. Terrible. I feel like there's a supposed or presumed dignity and decency of the office and process. And when you come across, I guess, populist people like the Fords who completely and utterly abhor that dignity and decency of the office, then you have to change what you're doing. Because that's how they swing into power is with all these people who don't like the rules as they're presented and they don't like having to actually I guess follow through or face consequences of poor
Starting point is 00:52:11 behavior or poor action. Because there's nothing dignified or decent about Doug Ford. Yeah. And that ends our political forum today. Unfortunately it wasn't quite a right versus left. We sort of agree because we are sensible, common people.
Starting point is 00:52:28 We are not right or left. We are just sensible, decent people. Before, I'm going to mention a couple more kind sponsors of the program, and then we're going to kick out the jams. But you tipped me off via Twitter. You mentioned that you have a Cinderella Man story. So who is my guest? Remind me, was it Muffy?
Starting point is 00:52:45 Was it Nina? Yes, it was Nina. So Nina Keough, who is the voice and puppeteer of Muffy Mouse on today's special, was in last week. Was it last week? Yeah. Was it this week?
Starting point is 00:52:56 It was last week. It was last week because it was like, I don't know, a day or two before my daughter's 14th birthday. And I shared the story with Nina about how the night my daughter was born at Women's College Hospital, I was driving home on Bay Street, heading south,
Starting point is 00:53:10 and I passed that old Simpsons by the Eden Center, and they had it modeled up as Madison Square Gardens in the 30s. I guess that's the 30s, right? And they were filming Cinderella Man with Russell Crowe. Tell me your Cinderella Man story.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Okay, so that same summer, I was living in an apartment above a shop on St. Clair West. And it was pretty well-worn at that point, but it was just a little shop with little apartments above head. And one day we got a notice from our landlord that he had allowed a film group to start shooting there and so we're excited we find out that cinderella man that russell crowe's going to be there and we are so pumped about this and then we find out so what what's our what's our apartment going to be
Starting point is 00:53:59 and we find out it's going to be his 1930s New York tenement housing. Yes. Yes. So, but the great thing is... In the Great Depression. Yeah. In the Great Depression. And like the production crew all came and they like painted all the brick to make it look worse and everything like that. But they also fixed our porch.
Starting point is 00:54:17 They had to fix out your apartment to make it like Depression 30s worthy. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. That's great. I got a lot. I cinderella man was all over the city uh and i mean not only that experience i had which was wild because they had the cars from 1930s automobiles on uh that street and they had uh people walking in their top hats and they're dressed up like it was the 30s because they were going to see a boxy match at madison square gardens and it was all happening at like it was the 30s because they were going to see a boxing match at Madison Square Gardens. And it was all happening at like,
Starting point is 00:54:45 it was like 3 a.m. or something when I'm driving by. And it was all happening right there. And it was so surreal. It was so surreal. But also I remember I do a lot of biking on Annette Street and there's a church near like a running meeting in Annette called St. Cecilia's. And they film like pivotal scenes
Starting point is 00:55:02 where people are listening to the boxing match. That's all happening inside St. Cecilia's. So there's a lot of stuff happening being filmed like on a net near Runnymede. And of course, they filmed some stuff at Maple Leaf Gardens, like some boxing stuff. They filmed the outside of the Simpsons there. And you mentioned your St. Clair stuff. So a lot of Torontonians have some pretty cool Cinderella man stories.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It was a good movie, by the way. It was. It was. It was great. And I love that as a city, we can instantly connect through, had uh have some pretty cool cinderella man story it was a good movie by the way it was it was it was great i love that as a city we can instantly connect through hey what was going on when you were when this movie shoot was going on you have things to talk about like my dirty work story i got my dirty work nor mcdonald uh one of the funniest humans on the planet and he was filming uh is david spade in that uh i know arie Lang is in that, that's for sure. But he was filming Dirty Work and there's near, speaking of Annette, like near Jane and Annette,
Starting point is 00:55:50 there was this little shop that became like the storefront of where they were working in Dirty Work and it was a big deal that Norm was filming like right there at Jane and Annette. So yeah, for sure. So I want to... Here.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Okay, so go to your Twitter feed again to get all those other awesome Twitter threads. Is there anything else? Before we dive into the jams, and I'm sure we'll learn a lot about you through the jams, but you're one of the least known people on the show. And I don't mean that rudely, but you are just a regular person.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Regular? You're a regular person. I'm very regular. You're a normal human being. I am a normal human being. Not famous from radio. Nope. You weren't like a long time writer for the Toronto Star.
Starting point is 00:56:32 No. You didn't have a TVO series or even like you never had like anything. Not even CHCH. Like you've never been a television star. I've never been anything. You've never been anything. Jodi's jumpsuit, just a regular person. I am.
Starting point is 00:56:47 I'm a regular person who just tweets a lot and people seem to like it. So you're just, you just, and this is a, this thing called Twitter. It's a free service. You just signed up one day and you started sharing your thoughts and people took a liking to it. And you, do you want to tell us how many followers or do you don't have to? Does it matter? You didn't buy any followers?
Starting point is 00:57:08 Like my friends Humble and Fred who bought 100,000 followers and then there was this big shakedown at Twitter where they got rid of all these like fake accounts. And overnight, Humble and Fred went from 100,000 followers to 22,000 followers, which is, oh my goodness, they were exposed for buying, but they still have 22,000 followers, which is, oh my goodness, they were exposed for buying, but they still have 22,000
Starting point is 00:57:26 followers. Okay. No, I, I, um, all my followers seem to be real during that purge. I think maybe like 10 went down or something like that, but yeah. Some Coffee Crisp fans have followed you. Yeah. Um, yeah, it's, it's been weird and organic. I actually, I joined Twitter because I was part of mommy groups on Facebook, you know, parenting groups in which you discuss. How old is your child? My son is 10. So just around when social media really started blowing up, that's when I had him. So it was great to, you know, contact other parents and be like, what's this weird rash? Is this a hospital thing? Or is this like, I just put Vaseline on it. It's gone. But at the time we
Starting point is 00:58:02 had like our own, I i guess hot topics group where we talked about politics most of the mommy group was american and so i suddenly would start bursting in about rob ford and canceling transit city and stuff like that and be like pay attention to my municipal anger i was angry about that too mcginty didn't have to allow that mcginty walked back put up his hands and said okay fine that what. What a terrible mistake, because Rob Ford did not have the power to cancel Transit City all by his own. Please continue. I feel this is going back to the
Starting point is 00:58:31 Doug Ford thing. Once again, it's walking in, let's cancel all this stuff with no regard for the canceling costs of that. It's not good business. And no humanity. He wants to cancel the safe injection sites. No humanity. It's just petulance. That's all it is. It's just cancel the, he wants to get rid of the safe injection sites. No humanity. No, it's just petulance. That's all it is. It's just this angry petulance.
Starting point is 00:58:49 It's gross. And he wants to muzzle the media. And he has his own channel now in which taxpayers are actually funding this, which is the really gross part. But this fake news, and I don't mean that in the Trumpian sense. I mean that in the literal sense. mean that in the Trumpian sense. I mean that in the literal sense. Like this is to look like a real news, but it's of course his own coverage. Like this is like communist China stuff we're talking about. It just blows the mind that so many
Starting point is 00:59:14 people at this point in time are still going, well, let's just give him a chance. Like, no, we've seen, we've given him enough chances. We know what it's going to be like. That's actually what bothers me the most is that with both Rob and Doug, it was so clearly, and you can say Trump, although that's not our problem. We didn't get a vote, but so predictable. Like we all knew what Doug Ford was.
Starting point is 00:59:35 He wouldn't tell us what he was going to do. And we all knew what he could do and would do. And yet this province gave him a majority. And how unpopular does a person have to be? Similar to Hillary. province gave him a majority like i and and how unpopular does a person have to be similar to like uh similar to hillary and uh how much do you have to dislike a woman in order to vote for him how much hatred did you have to have for somebody who i quite respect and like kathleen win like how much hatred did you have to have for her in order that you would give the keys to that guy yeah it's it's
Starting point is 01:00:03 like not liking the owner of the China or the person working behind the cash at the China shop. So you let the bull into the China shop. I mean, this will be a much better shopkeep. And it's like, no, it won't be that at all. My goodness, Jody's jumpsuit. I'm going to call you that now again. I'm very upset.
Starting point is 01:00:19 So, sorry, did I interrupt anything? Oh, yeah. By the way, you're in Lakeshore area now. There's a Lakeshore Moms group. It is the most powerful force in the universe. I'm telling you because I'm not allowed in the group. It's a mothers only. There's a whole thing on this.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And it's so powerful and strong. And I get all the intelligence from my wife who's in the Lakeshore Moms group. So I know what you mean about these mom groups. Yeah. And so I started like, they're ranting about all sorts of things. and the Lakeshore Moms group. So I know what you mean about these mom groups. Yeah. And so I started like, they're ranting about all sorts of things like healthcare, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Real important things. And I'm like, I'm going to talk about my municipal stuff in Toronto. And they're like, we don't really care about this. And so I was like, you know where I'll go where people care?
Starting point is 01:01:01 Twitter. And so I just went there and I started just ranting on Twitter and it just blew up into this. So I just went there and I started just ranting on Twitter and it just blew up into this. It was really just an accidental fall into something great. Do you find sometimes
Starting point is 01:01:13 when you do political tweets because you do maybe, I don't know, let's say you do an anti-Doug Ford thing, which would be a reasonable thing, that it does cost you followers or do your core, they're kind of okay with your opinions regardless? Well, I seem to have a big spectrum of followers. Like a lot of the people are on the left,
Starting point is 01:01:32 but there's a number of people on the right and a lot of centrists as well. And I feel that if you're following my Twitter feed, I'm not promising to be perfect or whatever your orthodox is. I'm just saying what I'm saying. And if you don't like it, that's fine. But I'm going to do what I'm doing. I only I didn't mean to interrupt you, except he was going to say census working overtime, which I realized last night. It sounds like census working overtime. And I said, I got to play this for census design and build. Get it? Census working overtime.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Census is actually spelled S-E-N-S-U-S. So if you're going to their website, it's censusdesignbuild.ca. But you could just phone them right now. You could phone census design and build at 416-931-1422. build at 416-931-1422. They provide architectural design, interior design, and turnkey consult construction services across the GTA.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So if you want to schedule your zoning and cost project feasibility study, you call them now. Census design and build proud sponsors of Toronto Mike. And this song census working overtime by xtc was kicked out by colleen rush home colleen rush home is a well-known radio personality and she kicked out the jams and we're going to do that in a minute census working overtime and i didn't mean to interrupt you there but i did i needed to jack it up for uh working overtime, but please. What else I want to tell you about? My friends at Paytm Canada, they designed a kick-ass app, I can call it that, and I've been using them since before they gave me a penny.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Before they were sponsors, I used it, and I wanted to make sure I liked it. I love it. I pay all my bills with this. Like every bill I pay, I pay through Paytm because I can pay on my MasterCard, even if it's property taxes, whatever the bill is, I can put it on my... The only bill I can't put on my MasterCard is my MasterCard. That's the only bill I'm not allowed to. I have to use my bank account for that. But I still use Paytm for that because I get Paytm points. But because I can put all my bills on my MasterCard and it's super convenient and free, I get all the points I get on my MasterCard and it's super convenient and free. I get all the points
Starting point is 01:03:45 I get on my MasterCard. So I'm getting those points, which gives me free groceries. Okay. I got this like President's Choice MasterCard and I get points with Paytm Canada. And when I made my first bill payment with Paytm Canada, I used the promo code Toronto Mike, all one word, and they gave me 10 bucks towards the future bill, like just free dollars oh that's amazing like for no other reason even if you'd never want to use paytm canada you should install it set it up use toronto mike as the promo code for your first bill payment pay another bill if it's your hydro bill that's 75 bucks you're only gonna have to give them 65 because you can use paytm cash and then you don't have to use it again. Do that. That's a great idea. Jodi's jumpsuits on board.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I love it. Jodi. I'm calling you Jodi. Your name's not Jodi. Crystal Rose, right? Oh, yeah. You can call me Crystal. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Or Jump. Everything's fine. Just call me whatever. Jump. There's a teaser for you. Jump, are you ready to kick out the jams? Let's kick out the jams let's kick out these jams I am sitting in the morning at the diner on the corner I am waiting at the counter for the diner on the corner I am waiting at the
Starting point is 01:05:26 counter for the man to pour the coffee and he fills it only halfway and before I even argue he is looking out the window at somebody coming in Tom's Diner
Starting point is 01:05:40 officially credited to DNA featuring Suzanne Vega. Oh, wow. Tell us why you love this jam. Well, it's pretty egotistical. It's the one song that whenever it comes up, people say, that's your song. And for years now, it's been this way. So I've developed an affinity for it.
Starting point is 01:06:01 And I think it really captures kind of how I do my Twitter account and just how I write in general. It's just very observational, casual, just off the cuff. I remember My Name is Luca. That was the big Suzanne Vega hit. Do you remember this song? I don't remember. My name is Luca.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I live on the second floor. I live upstairs from you. Yes, I think you've seen me before. See, you are younger than me. That's more evidence than that. That was a prime, prime song. But Suzanne Vega had this big hit, Luca. Then I didn't hear anything about Suzanne Vega.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Like, where's Suzanne Vega? Then all of a sudden, this broke. And it's like, another hit. No longer in the trivia things you do of one hit wonders. She's been removed. Yeah. Too many hits. This was also, this song apparently was the song that was like the first song of the internet.
Starting point is 01:06:55 This was the first MP3. Is that right? Yeah. I didn't know that. The guy who was actually, the story from what I understand is the guy who was actually working on MP3. On the protocol, the standard, that would be the MP3. Yes. And so he heard this song in an office that was across from his, and he thought this was great and really enjoyed the song.
Starting point is 01:07:16 And then he realized what he was working on with the MP3, he had to get it just right to catch her voice. Because it's so, I guess, low and gravelly that it would just be completely ruined the way he was doing it so he worked and tinkered using specifically this song so it's the first song of the internet bury me in fun facts like that okay anytime a fun fact like that is in your your cranium you spit it into the microphone i need more of that all right and i actually now i do i have heard that fact before it's one of those many facts i know and then i forget i know and i get to hear them all it's like it's like groundhog day i get to like uh enjoy the fun fact all over again do you remember pop-up was it pop-up video oh my of course i remember pop-up video i watched a lot of pop-up yeah me too in fact i wish
Starting point is 01:08:00 we still had pop-up video i enjoy pop-upup video. It would be great. I would understand so much more of what was going on. I would like to like, I mean, this is kind of pop-up video right now, actually. So we play a song. People are tapping their toe right now. And then they're hearing us talk about the song over top. So now you've got the hang of it. I start the song.
Starting point is 01:08:22 I try to, if it's a verse, chorus, verse thing, I'll let the, you know, get start the song. I try to, if it's a verse, chorus, verse thing, I'll let the get through the chorus at least one time and then I'll fade it down and we'll talk about it. But this is like pop-up audio, I suppose we'll call this. You ready for your second jam? I am. Thank you. All with window dressing and calculated guessing And a bark bigger than my teeth
Starting point is 01:09:06 It was the suit that got me the gig It was the tear that got me the girl I'm a sheep in this wolf clothing I'm a picture that I'm holding Of someone who is cool So like a thimble swallowing a silver spoon The odds,
Starting point is 01:09:29 someone who is cool. Yeah, I love this song. It's, again, on this very narcissistic list. But this is your jams. It should be narcissistic. Well, this is like the ultimate imposter
Starting point is 01:09:43 syndrome song for me. It's definitely how I feel when people are like, wow, you should do all this great stuff. You're a Toronto Twitter celebrity. I'm like, are you sure? Have you made a mistake? But okay, I'll just go with it. And that's how it feels a lot of the way.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I guess I have to build up that confidence to own it. But most of the time I feel like they've shined the spotlight on me accidentally and i just have to like roll with it to not ruin the show entirely fake it till you make it exactly and now when you of course when you're ready to launch the uh jody's jumpsuit podcast come to tmds enterprises we'll take care of you right here how convenient convenient for you. I love The Odds. I just always loved this band. I was a huge Kids in the Hall fan. And they had a
Starting point is 01:10:31 much music hit called Heterosexual Male. And the Kids in the Hall were in the video. And I was always like, I can't believe Kids in the Hall. So I always liked these guys. And of course, Eat My Brain. Truth Untold. Yeah, a lot of big hits yeah
Starting point is 01:10:46 and yeah they're part of my teenagerhood where there's a lot of can con and sure i love their poppy just feel to them it's great they're one of the great and i uh refer to this often uh the 90s alt rock can con that i just distill adore but but they're right in there. The odds. And, uh, I know there's a super group formed between a member of the odds, Craig Northey and, uh, Moe bird from the pursuit of happiness. Oh wow.
Starting point is 01:11:12 And Chris Murphy from Sloan and Steven page from the Bernie ladies. They have a band called, uh, trans Canada highway men. I think that's what they're called. Oh my goodness. And they basically each member of the band plays four of the songs that they wrote for their old band.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Anyways, Chris Murphy was here telling me all about it. Odds are one of the great Canadian can-con of 90s old rock bands, and I love them. I love them. I think they're kind of like the secret one that not many people know about. Well, they did a terrible job flying below the radar because Much Music, that Eat My Brain video, for example,
Starting point is 01:11:47 when that broke, I was watching a lot of Much Music at the time. See, Erica, you should come in and talk about it if you're listening, Yummy Mummy Club. I, gosh, they played the mess out of Eat My Brain, but a lot of big, big hits. You know, another 90s, I'm going to share this real quick. Another 90s alt-rock, earlier than 90s, to be honest to share this real quick. Another 90s alt rock, earlier than 90s, to be honest, with their hits, but
Starting point is 01:12:07 5440 are playing down the street from here for free on Saturday night. Oh, that's exciting. I know. You just go to the field down the street from here, and they're playing a full set at 9 p.m. It's crazy. Are you ready for another jam? I am ready for another jam. guitar solo And take a look around the room Love comes wearing disguises
Starting point is 01:13:06 How to go about and choose Break it down by shapes and sizes I'm a man who's got a very specific taste You're just my type My Type by Saint Motel. You're just my type Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh My Type by Saint Motel Yeah, I love this song. It's everything that I think a song should be. It's loud, it's fun, it's bouncy,
Starting point is 01:13:57 and it's a little bit, how would you say, cheeky. Yes, it is very cheeky. Yeah, it's great. I think it's a perfect party song. I think it's great. And it's definitely how, like, when I'm super happy, this is the type of exciting environment I want to be in, where everyone's just doing their own thing,
Starting point is 01:14:20 but it's got this great groove happening. You know, it's funny. I'm very familiar with the song. I know it, but I had no idea who sang the song until you gave me your list. Oh, wow. I know. You should check out the video.
Starting point is 01:14:31 It's great. It's a number of quick shots between everyone else and the weird secret links between them all. It's fantastic. Has Saint Motel done anything else I might have heard? I don't even think I've heard. You know, this isn't one of my blind spots, so it's one of the songs that you're aware of but it wasn't my genre or my time like so i didn't i had no exposure to it enough to like know oh that's saint motel
Starting point is 01:14:53 so now i'm catching up now with you and i'm like i realized i never even heard the words saint and motel next to each other until like right now i know but is this a one-hit wonder band um i honestly i'm very much in the same way as you a lot of the times my kid will be listening something to something and they'll say you should hear this and i'll listen to it or i'll just hear it randomly i'll be like i need to know what that song is and then look it up myself so i'm i'm completely isolated from the rest of what's going on. But it's got a beat and you can dance to it. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:15:30 And that's what it needs. By the way, no pressure. If you wished to dance, you could dance. I'm just letting you know. There's a lot of rope on those headphones. So you have permission to dance here. I had a guest recently named Bill King, who is like a jazz legend like he played with janice joblin he's all over he's amazing it's honestly he was amazing he's like in his 70s he biked here from like spadina and st clair oh my goodness i know i hope i'm doing that so uh
Starting point is 01:15:57 like he's just a cool cat and very interesting but he was raised in an in an evangelical family where, you ready for this? Dancing wasn't allowed. Yeah, yeah, I know about that. I know they should do a movie, like something they should call Footloose or something like that. But I mean, this is a guy, and he's a musician, and he's coming back at some point to kick out the jams
Starting point is 01:16:19 in which we're going to spend some time discussing how does the guy who wasn't allowed to dance, how does he become the music star? Like very interesting to me. Let's kick out another jam. We'll be right back. Two chicks in the parking lot Crack wives on the price of fame They stood to gain Phone books Been ripped off And two shapes in the dark
Starting point is 01:17:16 Could cross the way Know the price of flame It's weight and size If you've got something It sheds some light Use it tonight Tonight Use it tonight
Starting point is 01:17:35 The new pornographers use it. Yeah, I love this song so much. The line, two sips from the cup of human kindness, and I get shit-faced. I love that line. It's very much how I feel about a lot of things. When I get enthusiastic about something, I just dive into it completely. When I get enthusiastic about something, I just dive into it completely. One of my threads that got big last year was my Stranger Things recap.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Right. Yes, I do remember your Stranger Things. And so when I get unabashedly adoring something or just into it, I just start tweeting and like what I feel about it, different ideas, and people start talking with me and debating it. And it's, uh, I like that enthusiasm. I've noticed that you get a lot more with honey than vinegar. And that comes out to like, not so much my negative ideas, but the things that I'm super enthusiastic and that I love that seems to get more people to follow me and more interested in what I'm doing. Can we talk about Stranger Things briefly? Yeah. And again, I have several years on you. So I watched season one.
Starting point is 01:18:52 And I watched all of season two. Yeah. And other than this one trick pony thing, which is like, hey, I'm back in like the early 80s, which I quite like because I actually remember the early 80s. And I really liked that. And they did a good job recreating it. It was fun. Dungeons and Dragons oh I remember
Starting point is 01:19:06 blah blah blah I gotta say I found it this whole upside down world stuff I found it rather boring I found it boring but you love this show
Starting point is 01:19:14 I do I love this show and a lot of people love this show I think a lot of things like what really draws me to it is I guess the ideas
Starting point is 01:19:22 of relationships between everyone as they're growing up uh the the things that you hold on to as an adolescent and how that affects you growing like into adulthood versus how you let things change how you learn to change and uh I really enjoy it for that thing I admit fully that there are issues that they need to flesh out especially with the upside down there should be more um I noticed they have a new trailer, and for the third season,
Starting point is 01:19:49 they've mentioned a lot about a mall, so I'm super excited to see if they flesh out more of the Upside Down in the mall, and maybe we'll see more of what's there. Oh, that was well-timed. It's like you rehearsed that pitch to end with the song. I'm learning. Youse, it's great.
Starting point is 01:20:05 I mean, that band is like a super group, right? Oh, yeah. We claim them as Canadian, but they're not all Canadians, right? Nico Case,
Starting point is 01:20:12 is that her name? I think so. Yeah. But anyway, great band. Mass Romantic, of course, was a big hit,
Starting point is 01:20:18 but that Youse, that is a fantastic jam right there. I really enjoyed that. But let's kick out another Crystal Rose. See? No longer Jodi's jumpsuit. Now that we were friends, you are now Crystal Rose.
Starting point is 01:20:30 Okay. Tell me a line, make it easy for me Open your arms, dance with me until I feel alright. It's good in the dark, good in the dark, but into the lover's light, here comes another fight. So ring me long, ring me long. Burn me and hold me and cling to my arm. Here it comes. Here it comes And what you're asking me now
Starting point is 01:21:48 Disastrous now Hoping and hoping and hoping The feeling goes away Away Never change, never change Never change, never change Never change, never change, never change, never change Never change, never change, never change This is why I fell in love Never change, never change, never change, never change
Starting point is 01:22:23 Never change, never change, never change, never change, never change, never change. That's just too out there in the love way. LCD sound system, I can change. Yeah, LCD sound system, like the past decade of my life, has been really big. My partner is also really big into LCD Sound System. And I only found out about them when they were doing their last concert at Madison Square Garden. And so I watched that concert online with my partner. And I was like, what is this band? And so I always find out things just as they're ending. But they've gotten back together since then.
Starting point is 01:23:04 But I became immersed in them. And I love this song. band and so I always find out things just as they're ending but they've gotten back together since then but I became immersed in them and I love this song this song is you know back on Facebook when people were still quoting lines of lyrics this is the one I've still kept on actually the line's just coming up right now
Starting point is 01:23:18 but if she calls you tonight everything is all right. Yeah, we know. And love is a curse, shouting a hearse. Love is an open book to a verse of your bad poetry. And this is coming from me but i can change i can change i can change he can change yeah i love that i love that line the bad poetry because it's a it's a joke about his own songwriting skills and how they're like routinely panned is not the most deep or rather shallow or superficial sometimes and so that's a wink to the audience and that's also how i feel about my writing a lot is that
Starting point is 01:24:11 uh i've people sometimes are like well it isn't deep or super political or super anything and it's just like yeah but people enjoy it and i love this song too and i love that song or love the song particularly for that line so no cool very cool and it's i'm glad we heard this uh homage to the 80s right after our stranger things discussion it sounds it sounds uh influenced heavily influenced by the uh new order kind of yeah absolutely seen from yeah it's so fantastic yeah i. I think the more that we can go back and reflect on that era is fantastic for music. It's so much fun. No, absolutely. There's a lot of good stuff there.
Starting point is 01:24:55 For sure, for sure, for sure. Now, all your songs I noticed, they all came in reasonable lengths I noticed. Usually I get a jam kicker who wants to play the 9-minute Springsteen jam or the 12 minute Dylan jam, which is fine. They're your jams. I won't truncate
Starting point is 01:25:09 anything. I'm going to play the whole song. And everything you had, I was like, oh my goodness, this is like 3 and a half minutes. So that's like 3 minutes and 12. It was bang, bang, bang. This is the first song you have that's like that actually hits 4 minutes. I think this is like 5 and a half minutes here. Believe it or not, I was fiddling with this list for quite a while
Starting point is 01:25:27 while I was listening to more and more podcasts to make sure I didn't create any faux pas. There are no faux pas, though. Well, that's great. It worked out well. But I was like, I have to keep this one in here. So did you listen? Okay, I'm curious about that process.
Starting point is 01:25:40 This is like probably the 50th or the 51st time I've kicked out the jams. So did you listen to other people kicking out the jams to get a feel for it all? Yes, I did. Okay, smart. Yeah, I did my homework. Did you cherry pick whose jams you wanted to hear? Like, are you like, I don't care about Damien Cox's jams, but I'm curious about... I listened to Sean Fitzgerald.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Do you follow Sean Fitzgerald's work at The Athletic? Well, I actually have a friend of mine, Joshua Cloak. He does a lot of sports. Well, obviously at The Athletic, but he does a lot of sports writing. And he's also he also wrote a book about the Tragically Hip a number of years ago as well. I love the Tragically Hip. Yeah. Okay, cool. So Sean Fitzgerald, you listen to him kicking out the jams. Did he commit any full pause? No, but you mentioned that sometimes people do really long songs. I was like, oh, I have to
Starting point is 01:26:31 I should be careful what I say. Your jams are your jams. If Steve Simmons wants that damn, and he's not the only one, but if he wants that damn 15, 12 minute long Dylan track, then that's what he gets. That's what I say. But great, here's another
Starting point is 01:26:47 jam. I'm gonna keep rolling on No matter what the world may do Cause with a love like this There's nothing left to do So let me tell you It doesn't matter what you say I'm still, I'm still gonna fall away from you In a minute your love will come right along I'ma just keep rolling on and on This is Curtis Harding, On and On. I love this song. Always in time something so... I don't want to say authentic, but just like real and just good music to
Starting point is 01:28:26 dance to that really appeals to me. And I love this song because it's just, it's all about him obviously enduring on and committing to what he's done musically. And this is actually apparently a song about him actually moving forward artistically and just accepting that this is what he's going to do and being confident in it. And again, because this is obviously I've made the soundtrack to instill confidence in me. I feel like I need to take a similar type of commitment to like, yes, I'm doing this. I don't even know what it is, but I'm just going to keep on moving forward and see what works. Look, I've been there. Sometimes you have to do't even know what it is, but I'm just going to keep on moving forward and see what works. Look, I've been there. Sometimes you have to do it to know what it is.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Yeah. Honestly. Dan, what are we on now? Episode 363? Oh, yes. John Olerud's episode. Johnny O. Best swing in baseball.
Starting point is 01:29:16 What a sweet, perfect swing. Oh, I'm going to just watch that swing on a loop. And it's so beautiful. That's beautiful. That is beautiful. Let me, what was I saying there? Oh, yeah. So like this project that we're like recording right now, episode 363, like I just had Pauly
Starting point is 01:29:33 Morris here. I mean, John Donabee was, I didn't know, I had no clue what this was until I did it. And it took a good, it took a good 50 episodes for me to figure out what it was. Like, 50 episodes. Yeah, that's a lot of time. That's a lot of putting yourself out there
Starting point is 01:29:50 and, like, getting, you know, feedback. But you kept on doing it and now it's this institution. You gotta do it to find out what it is sometimes. Yeah. And now it's,
Starting point is 01:29:59 now the Hebsey on Sports was recorded. I have other corporate podcasts that are recorded here. Like, now this is a whole, now I completely now see what it is. Like, I see it. I couldn't see this five, which is recorded. I have other corporate podcasts that are recorded here. Like now this is a whole, now I completely now see what it is. Like I see it.
Starting point is 01:30:07 I couldn't see this five, six years ago. And that's, yeah. So you got to write and you write and you write and it's publishing on Twitter or if it's on Yummy Mummy Club
Starting point is 01:30:16 or what was the other place you were publishing? I should know that. Never heard of them. Okay. I know this Eric M thing. I don't know what the CBC thing is.
Starting point is 01:30:24 Okay. I should have wore my CBC shirt. I have a 1976 exploding pizza shirt. I wore it for Diana Swain. And I wore it for Jill Deacon. So I only bring it out for the heavyweight CBC people like yourself. I should have put that on. But what am I saying?
Starting point is 01:30:44 Yes, keep going. Like my advice to you, like, you know, Mark Weisblatt says, yeah, she'd be a great guest. And I'm like, you know what? I can have somebody on this show who I only know as a tweeter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:57 Like you're just a regular person. I didn't even know about the Yummy Mummy Club or the CBC. I know you are as a fun follow on twitter i mentioned that on the muffy episode by the way which you did listen to right so you got your shout out and like i can have that's a this is what that's what this is like there's it doesn't have to be roger ashby like it can be jody's jumpsuit yeah and i'm freaking enjoying this conversation that's wonderful i like hanging out with you you're you. You're wonderful. I'm not even recording this.
Starting point is 01:31:26 We're just like listening to tunes and talking about it. Should I have recorded this? This is the rehearsal. Let's kick out. All right. By the way,
Starting point is 01:31:34 Curtis Harding, I think he's flying below the radar. I don't know anything about Curtis Harding. I only know about this one song, but I keep on
Starting point is 01:31:43 checking out more stuff. I sometimes feel like I'm just missing out on something. How do I not know Curtis Harding? But I know Curtis Mayfield. I know. And that's what's great about now. You can learn so much. Let's kick out another
Starting point is 01:31:58 one. Yeah. I see things through a different doorway Failing, committed, in that crime A thousand place to be every time every time I'm walking in life I'm walking
Starting point is 01:32:32 in life I'm walking in life The dudes? Am I saying that right? Yeah, the dudes. You can't say the dudes
Starting point is 01:32:44 you gotta say the dudes? Yeah, there's a? Yeah, the dudes. You can't say the dudes, you gotta say the dudes? Yeah, there's an apostrophe between the T-H and then the E is gone. It's just the dudes. Right, it's just as if the needed to be truncated any further because it's such a long word. I know. The dudes. And this song is called Walking in Light. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:00 And tell us why you love this jam. I love this jam because this is the perfect type of song where you're listening to it in your earbuds and you're just walking or you're exercising or whatever, but it's like the, this is like the pumping up for power, like you're going to go do something awesome, that, you know, everything is right, this is fantastic. And it's, I use music to encourage myself.
Starting point is 01:33:24 When I was writing one of the articles for the CBC, I actually used one song over and over again, just I had it on repeat just so I could write it out. It was, which one was it? I can't remember right now. It was on and on. But this is one of those songs like that, where I just all throw it on repeat,
Starting point is 01:33:43 and I'll just get stuff done in a super fast way How did you get the CBC gig? Did they reach out to you and say hey we like your tweets do you want to write for us? How did that come to be? Actually no I was invited to pitch to an editor through the Yummy Mummy Club that was looking to
Starting point is 01:33:59 get a bunch of articles in from various authors and yeah I was selected and that was fantastic for me. So CBC got you through the Yummy Mummy Club. Yes, indeed. Because you know, the CBC is kind of a big deal. It's a super big deal. It blew my mind
Starting point is 01:34:16 and yeah, it was originally through Twitter. Everything that's happened to me in the past couple years has been through Twitter. CBC never contacts me. They should. I can write too, CBC. Come on. Jodi doesn't get all the gig, Jodi. Crystal Rose.
Starting point is 01:34:31 I like this name, Crystal Rose. That's kind of a little bit of a hippy-dippy kind of... It is. It's very hippy-dippy. It's very early 80s. Well, like when you see those young ladies named Summer, right? It's kind of a Crystal Rose. Yeah, my parents took it to the next level. I sound like something that you have to collect in order to go forward on your quest.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Oh, yeah. Like in Link or something? Yeah. The Legend of Zelda? Yeah, I'm an item that you need to defeat something. Or at least, hopefully not an item, an actual person. I'm trying to break through from my jumpsuit persona into the fully living, breathing persona,
Starting point is 01:35:08 and I guess it's working. How many jumpsuits do you own? I own about half a dozen right now. Let me think. I have a green one, a black one, this one that I'm wearing, two or three other ones, and my gala black one,
Starting point is 01:35:23 which I've only worn once. I've got a question about jumpsuits. I've never worn a jumpsuit. But let's say, and I'm sure this is going to happen. I watched you drink a lot of water. Put up your hand, by the way, if you need me to pause. I've had many a jam kicker who had to break. I'm just letting you know. But we only have a couple. It's up to you. We have a
Starting point is 01:35:38 couple of jams to go. It's up to you. I don't judge here. But you drank a lot of water. Yes. So when we're done recording, you're going to say, oh, Mike, where's the washroom? This is what you're going to say. Trust me. I already know what's going to happen. But you drank a lot of water. Yes. So when we're done recording, you're going to say, oh, Mike, where's the washroom? I need you to get this. What are you going to say? Trust me, I already know what's going to happen. Do you need to remove everything?
Starting point is 01:35:50 Yeah, but I can hold it. That's not inconvenient? Because I would think that would stop me from wearing jumpsuits, I think. Well, I think it's about as inconvenient as wearing a belt, if that makes any sense. Because you have to undo the belt.
Starting point is 01:36:01 Yeah, but you don't have to get... Okay, if you're wearing a belt, you undo the belt. Yeah. And you pull down the pants. Yeah, but there's still that additional... You also have to undo the belt. If you're wearing a belt, you undo the belt and you pull down the pants. But there's still that additional, you'll still have to undo the button. You don't have to get naked to take a leak.
Starting point is 01:36:12 I'm just dropping my shoulders and that's it. It's your life, your body, your urination. All of this is your call. I'm just asking the tough questions yeah it's my first podcast
Starting point is 01:36:27 and now everyone knows how I'm about to pee well they know you're wearing a jumpsuit and they have common sense that jumpsuits don't have you have to remove all of it I think to go to the washroom I wish I gave you a different answer like something scary like you know I'm just going to move to the side figure it out
Starting point is 01:36:41 or you're wearing Depends or whatever you don't have to worry about this my special Depends or whatever. You don't have to worry about this. My special Depends. Alright, here's another jam. I forgive you now No it's not little Not little to me And they forgive you too Well I see You in my dreams.
Starting point is 01:37:27 You dream around all your dreams. You're squishing flowers all day long. And ladies, oh, no. You're snagged, rusted, and garbage. This is Shannon and the Clams. and this song is called Osma. This is, I love, as I've already mentioned, I love the whole sound. Is that called the Phil Spector sound? Is that what that is, or no? Maybe that's a little different. I think that's a bit different.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Okay, but this is like a Motown. maybe that's a little bit different. I think that's a bit different. Okay, but this is like a Motown. Yeah. And when you hear the chorus, there's just this kind of like bounce to it. It's so great.
Starting point is 01:38:11 And then it comes back. I like your jams because, yeah, sure, a lot of these songs, oh, yeah, everyone knows The Odds and everybody knows Suzanne Vega and everybody knows the new Pornographers and LCD Sound System. But you've got like, this is Shannon and the Clams.
Starting point is 01:38:22 I feel I know a lot about music. I never knew about Shannon and the Clams. Like, should I know? You're looking at me like I should know Shannon and the Clams I feel I know a lot about music I never knew about Shannon and the Clams like should I know? you're looking at me like I should know Shannon and the Clams no I love doing like on Spotify I'll just let things go
Starting point is 01:38:33 and I used to do this with YouTube as well but every song that you start off with on YouTube will eventually get you to a tragically hip song alright eventually you'll just go through but with Spotify it'll just pick up from what you already like
Starting point is 01:38:48 and they'll show you things that you've never heard before and this was one of them where I was just like I love this song it's perfect I love being introduced to stuff like that's what I love about Kicking Out The Jams like I would never think to listen to a Shannon and the Clam song
Starting point is 01:39:03 and now when I hear that name I I'm going to say, oh yeah, I know them. Yeah, it's great. And then it just opens up all these different areas for you. And I find Twitters like that too. I try to follow people back as much as possible because they just open up these different avenues. But you mute them? I mute sometimes people.
Starting point is 01:39:22 There's a lot of people that are tweeting stuff. I really don't want polluting my feed. Yeah. And sometimes even if it's something that's really big or topical at the moment, if it's something that's not necessarily that I disagree with it, but just... Well, let's take this Doug Ford chap, for example. If you've got somebody tweeting about uh doug ford for premiere yeah like how much of that can you stomach in your feed before you got to mute that person yeah it's just or just
Starting point is 01:39:51 like and now with tory as well i'm not really much of a fan of tory now we give him four years didn't really work out the way that we yes but we had to give him four years to save ourselves from the aforementioned doug ford i know I know. Because Olivia wasn't going to carry the day. We hoped so at the beginning. I know this because I was a big Olivia fan who voted for John Tory to stop Doug from winning.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I never liked John Tory, but I'll take John Tory every day of the week over Doug Ford. Oh yeah, absolutely. And I feel actually this is what happened to Olivia Chow is also what happened to Kathleen Wynne, what also happened to Hillary Clinton. It's you have these women who've had these established careers unto themselves and they keep on getting bested by these randos, essentially, that are just like, I'm a loud guy. And it's like, and we need to, like, I guess, examine why that is and why they're just at this point a default that it's not going to work out for you.
Starting point is 01:40:47 If you're a woman, no matter how much you've done, no matter what your career is, no matter what your record is, if a guy with a loud mouth and a brash temper shows up, it's immediately going to him. Well, Crystal Rose, I've said it before. I'll say it again. Democracy does not work. Now, before I kick out this next jam, I was thinking of your loyal followers on Twitter. You have this, you know how like pop singers, pop singers like Lady Gaga and this,
Starting point is 01:41:12 they have like a name for their followers. Like they give them a cute nickname or whatever. But I was thinking, I don't know if you have one yet, but you could call these followers jumpers. Like these could be jumpers, right? That kind of sounds like they're in distress. Like they're jumping out of a building or something terrible like that?
Starting point is 01:41:29 Falling out of cars? I like the idea so much. Now I'm sad. You don't have to use my idea, but if you started referring, hello, jumpers, good morning, jumpers, that's kind of cute, no? Yeah, no, actually...
Starting point is 01:41:44 Is it growing on you? It is, it's growing on me. During no actually uh is it growing on you guys it is it's growing on me i said yeah go during this jam it'll grow on you all right Thank you. I know you like what you see When you hold me I give you all that you need Wrap your love around me You're so exciting I can feel you getting hotter Oh baby I'll take you down, I'll take you down Where no one's ever gone before
Starting point is 01:42:47 If you want more, if you want more, more, more Say jump for my love Jump in and feel my touch Jump if you wanna take my kisses in the night Jump, jump for my love The Pointer Sisters. Jump, and then don't forget in parentheses, you've got For My Love. Yeah, of course. I was suggested by a number of people who were like, you could just do an all-jump soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:43:36 Well, you could. Do you want to do this a bit with me? Okay, so you could do, of course, Van Halen. Yeah, jump. Jump, for sure. Criss Cross has a jump. House of Pain. Yeah, that's currently my, my i guess twitter handle right now is jump around at the first toronto mic listener experience al and the royal pains uh pulled me on the stage to solo a solo effort to jump by house of pain
Starting point is 01:43:59 she's dying and i said before i began i said nobody can record this if If I see a phone, I'm going to throw it in the garbage. And then afterwards, at least two people in the audience told me they recorded it anyway. So I've never seen the recording yet, but it's out there. But I digress. This is about you here. But there's a lot more than that. I'm sure I'm missing some jumps. Am I missing any big ones?
Starting point is 01:44:19 I'm sure there's more. To be mentioned, the crisscross jump. Yeah. Okay. Of course we did. Yes. I'm going to make it a big, we can whack. You know, one of the criss Cross jump. Yeah. Okay. Of course we did. Yes. I'm going to make it a bit wicked, wicked, wicked whack. You know, one of Criss Cross is dead.
Starting point is 01:44:29 Yeah. I don't know which one, though. Yeah, and they were planning on doing a reunion tour, and then he died. Only the good die young, that's what I say. But the Pointer Sisters, this version, this jump, is this your favorite of the jumps? Yes, absolutely. It better be. It's on your jam list.
Starting point is 01:44:44 Yeah, it's the one that I picked out of all the jumps. I think it's the best one. It totally appeals to the music things I like anyways. And it's such a good song. It's so punchy and energetic and confident. This is like 83 or 84. I don't know when it was, I feel. But I remember when this came out.
Starting point is 01:45:03 I mentioned Bill King, the jazz musician, right? He was the pianist. I said pianist. Okay. He was the pianist for the Pointer Sisters in like the late 70s. And he toured with them to USA and Japan as their keyboard guy. Yeah. That's fantastic.
Starting point is 01:45:23 So I played some Pointer Sisters like two episodes ago or whatever that was. More Pointer Sisters, the better. It's fantastic. Yeah. You know, good band. I mean, great singers and a string of hits. Yeah. Slow hand and all that.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Yeah. Good stuff. I played Fire. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's great. And of course, I'm So Excited. Yes, that's a big one too.
Starting point is 01:45:49 As heard, as Jessica Spano sang it briefly in that famous episode of Saved by the Bell when she was on the pills. Was it Speed she was on? Yeah, it was like
Starting point is 01:45:59 Wake Ups or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm So Excited. That was great. that was the best episode i'm telling you are you ready for your final jam yes i love this one too i know which one's coming so well you should you know why you gave me the list of songs imagine you didn't know what was coming i know just imagine that scenario but let's kick it out and then we'll talk. All right. And a pretty size And you're so nice And you're so sweet
Starting point is 01:46:45 And you're sweeping me right over my feet It's you I care for It's you I adore I can't keep away From everything You've got me tossing Tossing at night I just wanna hold you tight
Starting point is 01:47:02 You could be short And you could be tall It really wouldn't matter, matter at all You look good to me from your head to toe And each day I love you more and more And every time I see you, I wish I could Take you and keep you and love you good And put my loving arms around you
Starting point is 01:47:26 So you could be beside me To lead me and guide me To lead me and guide me Oh yeah Oh little girl I'm telling you the truth I can't do without you My baby
Starting point is 01:47:41 It's got to be my baby I don't even want to talk over this. Fantastic. This is The Contours. Whole lot of women. Yeah. But tell us, what version is this? This is the regional version, which is, I guess, a euphemism for saying that this was the Detroit version as opposed to the rest of the United States.
Starting point is 01:48:02 Yeah, the national version. Yeah. So what is the key differences? Is it just that this version's more raw? Yeah, it's more raw. It's more fun. If you listen to the other versions, it's been
Starting point is 01:48:15 tampered down. The tempo is a little bit slower. It's more morose whereas this one is like hungry. Well, this reminds me of Shout or something like that. Yeah. For those who don't know but you should know these are the guys
Starting point is 01:48:30 on that Dirty Dancing soundtrack right what was that jam again I know the contours Do You Love Me yes Do You Love Me and that was a
Starting point is 01:48:38 yeah that was a bigger hit but this has got that raw energy that I just love in this kind of music. It's great. Oh, it's fantastic. Listen to his voice. I was waiting, you know, I wasn't sure when he says, hold on a woman.
Starting point is 01:48:55 I was waiting for him and I'm like, oh, this is like nautical disaster where there is no place to fade down. You just do it. Fantastic. And it's obvious why you love that song, but there's no, I didn't interrupt any story about it.
Starting point is 01:49:17 It's just a song you love? Well, it's like, I think everyone has like a song which, you know, they want someone to like sing to them or, you know,
Starting point is 01:49:24 that when you get, I guess, as a woman or whatever, that romantic idea of the guy either holding the stereo above his head and say anything or singing it to you. And girls or a lot of people like these tender love songs. But I like this. I would love this to be sang to me. It's so raw and grateful but also sexy. Yeah, it's raw, sexy stuff, like in Animal House
Starting point is 01:49:51 when they go to that Otis Day and they're doing Shout. It's got that whole like, whoa, it's got that, it's a great sound. Fantastic. By the way, you mentioned that romantic Say Anything, great movie, but you mentioned a few times your partner.
Starting point is 01:50:09 So you're with somebody? This partner is a romantic partner? My husband, my father of my child. So is it partner is because you're not married? Yeah. And you have to pick a word, right? Well, we picked it for a long, long time ago. I know there was recently internet discussion about that on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:50:27 But it's like, I've been doing this for 12 years. It's the easiest way. Boyfriend sounds kind of silly when you have a 10-year-old. And you're 37. I've done my joint taxes for a decade. We're partners. Because you know what? I think it doesn't matter at all, but it would lead to an interesting discussion i suppose is that a partner would be like the nomenclature
Starting point is 01:50:49 used uh if it's same-sex couples to use partners so uh all until right now i think a lot of listeners just assumed you were uh with a woman oh well i'm you didn't think of that i did it uh you're with the father of your child yes yes that means it has to be a man. Yes. And he's actually the one who introduced me to the last song as well. So he's never actually sang it to me, but maybe he'll sing it.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Does he have a good voice? He does. He has an excellent voice. He should sing it to you. Is he going to listen to this? He absolutely is. Does he have a first name? His name's Jason.
Starting point is 01:51:20 Jason. It was just July, August, September, October, November. I know. That's Jason. I know. Jason, if you're listening to me, I i'm gonna sing this song to her right now when he's not recording so you're gonna see if you can do a better job when you sing it to her tonight excellent did you have fun in your
Starting point is 01:51:37 first ever podcast i did i hope i did okay well we'll see i'm gonna record the next one and we'll see I'm going to record the next one and we'll see how it plays back alright and that brings us to the end of our 363rd show you can follow me on Twitter I'm at Toronto Mike Jodi is at
Starting point is 01:51:54 Jodi's Jumpsuit and she's not Jodi I know that she's Crystal Rose and Crystal Rose is at Jodi's Jumpsuit our friends at Great Lakes Brewery
Starting point is 01:52:03 are at Great Lakes Beer remember September 12 6 to 9 p.m. You can even bring Jason, but then who's watching the 10-year-old? You can bring the 10-year-old. What time is the bedtime for the 10-year-old? It's probably negotiable at this point. Because you don't have to,
Starting point is 01:52:17 like they won't serve the 10-year-old, but the 10-year-old could bring his own beverage and could just eat your french fries from the food truck. I warn you, he's going to be the total star of the show
Starting point is 01:52:28 if he comes. Not if I bring the two-year-old because Morgan likes to be the star of the show. He can battle it out. Oh, that's excellent.
Starting point is 01:52:35 It would be fun. What else was... Oh, yes. Of course, of course. Propertyinthe6.com is at Raptors Devotee and it sounds like there's a bed and play
Starting point is 01:52:44 and I got some Twitter polling to do. So I will do that. And PayTM is at PayTM Canada. See you all next week. You've been under my skin for more than eight years. It's been eight years of laughter and eight years of tears. And I don't know what the future can hold or will do for me and you. But I'm a much better man for having known you.
Starting point is 01:53:14 Oh, you know that's true because everything is coming up rosy and gray. Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow Wants me today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away Cause everything is Rosie and Gray

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.