Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Joe Carter, Joe Bowen, Kevin Pillar, Brad Gushue, and more: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1914

Episode Date: June 10, 2026

On this 1914th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike records live from the Joe Carter Classic at Glen Abbey golf course and has meaty conversations with Joe Carter, Joe Bowen, Kevin Pillar, Brad Gushue, Rod Black, Emma Miskew and others. VP of Sales co-hosts!A version of this podcast without programmatic ads is available to all Toronto Mike'd Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Live on tape from the Glen Abbey Golf Club in Oakville, Ontario. It is Toronto-Miked at the Joe Carter Classic. I came in too early. I came to early. Professional operation here. Why didn't know how long? Do you have more? That's all I got.

I don't want to tread on you, man. Welcome to episode 1,914 of Toronto Mike, an award-winning podcast, as my T-shirt clearly explains. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. Order online at Great Lakesbeer.com for free local home delivery in the GTA. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh, homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palma Pasta in Mississauga. in Mississauga and Oakville. Visit Palma Pasta.com for more.

Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. Catch a game at Christy Pits this summer. No ticket required. Fusion Corp's own Nick Aini's. He's the host of Building Toronto Skyline. And Mike and Nick, two podcasts that you ought to listen to. Recycle My Electronics.C.A. Committing to our planet's future

means properly recycling our electronics of the past. And Redley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community, pillars and maybe Kevin Pillar will be here. Pillar, oh my goodness. Pillars of the community since 1921. As the VP said, we're live from the Joe Carter Classic

at beautiful Glen Abbey Golf Course. VP, you have been promoted to my driver. This is a very exciting day. I know the great Tim Heron was unable to be here. He's been your driver for the last two years. He had a good excuse, but he buffied. Well, these things happened, but I'm more than happy to step up and fill his shoes. So I want to say hello to Tim and thank him for two amazing years of service.

So Tim Heron would pick me up and then he would accompany me at the Joe Carter Classic in 2024 and 2025. This is 2026 edition. VP is my, you're going to be a co-host, a Wrangler, and of course my driver. It's, uh, can you handle all of that responsibility? I'm going to do my best. I'm going to do my best. I think I've already let you down because I didn't bring you coffee. Well, we're going to score some coffee. So this is like literally, I'm going to timestamp everything here. I think this is the quickest I've ever set up. Okay. Like, and we actually have a camera on this. Like, we're fully set up. Do you want to paint a picture? Like, this is my third year now, your first time being here.

Just paint the picture. This is what I consider the calm before the storm. I don't see any celebrities yet. No celebrities. The, uh, the atmosphere is. is electric though. There's, uh, the fan, uh, morning show is set up sort of a across the, the, the lobby from us. Right. There's, uh, outside, there's a big stack of Adidas boxes. It's an Adidas tent. Uh, this is going to be swag for the celebrities, no doubt. Yes. I saw some boxes of Callaway golf clubs. So this is, uh, this is a big deal. On that note, are we going to score? Because I can see the gentleman in charge. I can see him here. Are we going to try to score some swag? I think we should. I think it's important. Because we are promoting this

event. We are. third year here. Exactly. Who would come to the Joe Carter Classic if it wasn't for us? Okay, so let's talk about expectations, and then we'll get a coffee and we'll wait until there's an actual celebrity here. But, like, what are your expectations for the day? This is my third round, so I've got a vibe of how it goes. So you're a known entity now. Like, people know that, you know, they're going to set up. Rick Vive knows me. Rick Vives knows you. But, you know, they know that they're going to do their, you know, two minutes with, with the boys. But the fan doesn't want everybody, right? Of course they don't. They're live to air on terrestrial radio.

Right. They're selective. Like, they're like, okay. Okay, we want this. We're pursuing this person. I can see them having Russell Martin and Josh Donaldson. I can see them coming on the fan. Bernie Clement, no doubt. But, I mean, somebody has to be here to talk to... Who's going to talk to Shigotosi, Pasigawa, for example.

He was a major league pitcher. Oh, I knew that. So he's here today. He's on the list. Run down the list of people who might appear. There's no guarantees. And then we'll find out at the end how many we actually scored. Sure.

Yeah, yeah. Big list. So, of course, you've mentioned Jock. and Russell Martin. Bringer of rain. Brue Rangel. Rens. An actual active Blue J.

That's the first time in active Blue Jays being here. Yeah. Kenny Lofton, who was a big hit last year. Snubbed? Should be in Cooperstown. Should be. Dave Stewart.

Smokey. Smoke. Yeah. He's been on. Jeremy Ronick. He kind of snubbed me last year. Last year. Yeah.

Okay. Bernie Nichols, of course. Okay, he'll be on for sure. We've got to catch up with Bernie. Two-time F-O-T-M. So long Bernie. That's right. Devo, Devon White.

Fun fact is that I had a chat with a chap named Jeremy Diamond at the Diamond. It was at Christy Pitts. Jeremy Diamond works with the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame. And he invited me to do this exact same thing in St. Mary's on the June 20th. And I asked, oh, who's going to be there? Devon White's going to be there. Okay. So we could prime the, what do you prime again?

The pump. We can prime the pump. We can prime the pump. And then we could do like a real talk with Tivo in St. Mary. Devo. Right. Okay. Please continue. Okay. I'm very excited, clearly. Bryce Butler, who is an NFL, former NFL star.

Not Brett Butler. Not Brett Butler. Christian Okoya, another, he's the Nigerian nightmare, the running back for the Kansas City Chiefs. Oh. From back in the day. That's a big deal. Yeah. Mike Phillips, who is the first Jordan brand musician, if you can believe that. I believe anything that comes out of the Jordan brand machine. Then we have some Canadian Olympians, so Jana Hefford. Big one.

Canadian Olympic hockey. Scored a big goal in Salt Lake City. She did indeed. Some curlers, Brad Gushu. That could be him for all, I know. I'm excited. I want to get his take on the double-touch scandal

from the Olympics. Oh, yeah. Yes, let's get into it with Gushu. That's why you're here. Other crew, Rachel Holman and Emma Miskue who are in the 2020s. These are curlers. They are curlers.

She's such a blind spot. Can you carry, can you help me out when it's time to talk curling? I will do my best. No, we need Grigotsky for this. Can we get him on the phone? Maybe. Maybe. Mike Crucial Nisky. The Crusher. This is a big one.

Former Maple Leaf. Another former Maple Leaf, Brad May Day. May Day. May Day. Then we've got some more football players. Mark Rippin, Bruce Smith. Those are two huge names that I remember. Mike Vanderjack, Canadian, Oakville native. Right. And we're in Oakville.

Yeah. Kevin Pilar, former Blue Jay. Right. A pillar of the community. That's right. We should say that. We're going to say that for sure. Tony Womack, former Major League. player. Not Bobby Womack. That would be cool. Across 110th Street. From Jackie Brown. That's right. I say that like that's what it did. He wrote that for Jackie Brown. Yeah. And of course, Rod Black.

Rod Black. He was your ticket into this place, wasn't you? Yes, because I connected him to the Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball and his return favor was connecting here. And now I don't even need Rod Black. Like I've been doing such a stellar job. So I told you this on the drive here. We're going to maybe press the envelope a bit. It's year three, right? It can get stale. Right. It's like barbershop. It got stale.

We have to take it in new directions. But we got to make sure we don't cross the line that we're uninvited. Shout out to Atlanta's. Don't embarrass the tournament. I don't embarrass Joe Carter. Raoul, who's been very nice to me. I'm looking at him now. He's talking to Greg McIsaac, another good guy.

So I just want to say, I spent two years befriending the producer of the Fan 590 Morning Show. So he could tell me who's who, who's that person and why should I know them? And it was really helpful. But he's not here. So I feel like I lost a crutch. Yeah. So year three, I'm excited you're here.

I'm excited to be here. Tim, Tim, I hope you're at TMLX22 on June 25th. We got to get that sign, Tim. We got to get that sign. I don't have a sign, Tim. Don't get mad at me. But maybe it's better you're not here because Tim told me to get a sign and I never got a sign. But I do hope everybody listening comes to Great Lakes Brewery on the 25th of June, 6 to 9 p.m.

Because you get your first Great Lakes beer on the house. and Palma Pasta will feed you. VP and I are going to wait for something. Right now we don't even have a Rick V. Yeah. It's 735. He's an early mainstay. Yeah.

735. He's usually good for 15 off the top. Do you think I just set up too quickly this year? But here I think. So 735, the rain has stopped. I think it's going to be a nice day. Beautiful day. Yeah.

It's got an interesting fog thing. It's going to be great. We're literally going to be sitting here all morning and grabbing any celebrity who will talk to us. We'll take anybody. You don't know what's going to transpire. This episode could have five minutes left in it or could have five hours left in it. But I'll be watching.

They'll come in here. They'll smell the bacon. If they're a big name, the fan will pounce because they pay, Rogers paid big bucks for that. I didn't pay anything. Not a dime. I didn't even pay my driver. That's okay. You paid me in exposure and experience.

And you're the co-host. This is an event. Tim with a bit Mike shy, Tim Herron. You lack that fear of the mic. You're only afraid of this mic. That's right. Exactly. Exactly. Let me just, because I don't know what's going to transpire, I'll just tell you, I have pulled this clip.

I get chills. Beautiful. I don't know what the hell they're saying. I fucking love it. What is the name of that late-grade broadcaster whose voice we heard there? Roger Brulot. And he just passed away in 2025, right? Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.

So if Russell Martin comes on the mic with us, we're going to play that and get his reaction to that call. That's my pledge to the listenership. That would be wonderful. I hope that happens. Okay, so do you want to pause it here now? Here, Ben Ennis, everybody. He's a celebrity, get him on the mic.

Oh, he looks like, he's actually working in this event. Ben Ennis, everybody. First FOTM we've spotted here today. So VP, we're going to shut this down, and I might keep the video. I'm recording video. I may just keep that rolling. Let's go say hi to these fan guys, and I'll introduce you to Rahul, and we'll see who will talk to us today.

Stay tuned, everybody. Great morning. I'm home when I'm waiting. Our first big celebrity guest, what a big name this is. Pierre, how you doing, buddy? Not that. How are you? I love that greeting in the morning. We started big here. Okay, please tell us definitively for the record, your full name and title at AMJ. I'm Pierre Frappy, CEO and president of AMJ Campbell, or AMJ, we just got rid of the Campbell. Oh, what happened? You know what? Because my guest, my guest, this is a Campbell, Tyler Campbell.

You got rid of the heritage. I'm so sorry. I didn't know. But seriously, real talk. Why do you? did you get rid of the Campbell? It was just AMJ. Just AMJ. Cleaner. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Did you consult my friend Tyler and Campbell on this decision? Maybe it was a late late uncle or grandfather that had the company. Probably. Probably. Yeah. You apologize to him. That's okay. So Pierre, are you the gentleman? I should be thanking for the fact that for the third year in a row, Toronto Mike has been invited to talk to celebrities like yourself at the Joe Carter Classic. Are you the guy should be thanking? I'd love to take credit, but there's a lot more other people here who make it happen. Raoul, who was

us with us, the rest of the team. Oh, I was going to give you too much credit there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. CEOs are not supposed to get credit. Okay. And how did you get this big title? This is CEO. I mean, he's only the VP.

You're a CEO. How do you get a big monster title like that? You're the last guy standing in the room lifting his hand? I think I could do that. Listen, AMJ is a great company. I've been there almost 40 years. Oh, wow. Forty years.

First job, still my job. And I've been able to grow through the company. Got amazing partners, employees. Are you like one of those stories I hear where you start in the mail room and you work your way up and then you end up as the CEO? I started as a mover. I was driving a truck as a mover. That's how we started at AMJ. Yeah.

Okay, so you start as a guy, you're just moving people, driving the trucks or something. Absolutely. And now you're like at a Joe Carter classic, the first celebrity guest on Toronto Mike. Who knew, eh? Who knew? You dreamt of this as a boy. Yeah, my mother now takes credit. That was my doing, eh?

I met you. And it was your big idea to say, let's lose the Campbell. Yeah, it was just time to make it easy. I know. I'm just busting this guy's chops. No, he's going to talk to me after. Oh, yeah, we'll have some words. We'll have some words.

Get the camera rolling for that. The company was called MJ Campbell. Oh. And why did we put an A in front of it back in the 70s? Can I guess? For one million dollars, guys. Yellow pages. Yellow pages.

Yeah. You had so many companies named like A, AAA 123 or some nonsense like that, to game this. And the days before they were gaming AI, okay? You know, the SEO guys buying the gray links, they were gaming the yellow pages. That's a great story. So how many years now have you been involved in the Joe Carter Classic? We've stepped in, well, they've been seven, this or 17 here. We've got in around year 10. Oh, wow. We've been here around 10 years. And as title sponsor, probably in the last four or five. So do you have any power over the swag bags that we're watching? Like, we have this beautiful window here. And I can see the celebs are going to show up here. They're

going to get the most amazing swag. My third year recording here, sharing the love. I mean, I'm going to shout out. Well, not just a celebs. Every golfer is going to go through that lineup. That's amazing. What about podcasters? All right.

We got to get you guys. Tyler, lean in here. The fan 590 guys just walked away with shoes. I saw that. I saw that. I'm sick and tired of the fan 590 guys waltzing in here, grabbing the shoes, and I leave with nothing. Can Pierre make this happen for Toronto Mike?

You guys, went up with a clubling towel or something. Hey, I'll take it. What do you guys need? Let's talk after? I want one of those AMJ phone cases. Let's get you guys hooked up. He wants the old ones that had Campbell on it. That's right.

Anything with Campbell, I'm sending to him from that one. I can see that now. I go visit you in Mimico and everything's like branded Campbell. That's what I need. Pierre, I want to shout out the Children's Aid Foundation of Canada because I don't want to bury the lead here

that the reason we're all here today is for this excellent cause. Absolutely. I'm fortunate to sit on their national board. I've been on their board for about four years. years. And I didn't know what I was getting into in terms of what an amazing cause. And it's for children. I mean, we are the voice of our children. And if we look after our kids, we're going to have a great future. So I believe, I believe the children are the future.

That's true. Do you agree? He's deep. Wise men and women have said that. It's formulating in my head. Okay, Pierre, so I want to make sure we have our marching orders before we say goodbye here. You're going to score swag bags for my, what do you, my driver? Yeah, I'm your driver. My driver, the VP of sales, Tyler Campbell. And your esteemed award-winning podcast host, Toronto Mike. Okay. We are going to look after you two.

That way you'll come back. Next year. We need a photo of us to receiving our swag bag from Pierre here, from AMJ. And I will promise to drop all legal action against AMJ. Wow, this is a big win for AMJ today. I'm really, when I see the big, I can see the AMJ logo to my right here. and I think it's amazing you stepped up to be a part of this. I think this is a wonderful event.

Rahul does a great job. And I can't wait to be back for your four or five. And now I know every year I come back, Pierre will get us a swag bank. I will get you a swag. We're going to talk about what's going on at Children's Aid. Joe's in the house today. All our celebrities in the house,

but we've got some great partners as well. We can't forget the people. Shout him out. Who do you want to shout out? Is there any celebrity here today that you're excited to meet? Who am I excited to meet? That's a loaded question. guys.

Yeah, Ernie Clement. I like the fact that we've got some Canadian medal winners here in the house. Rachel Holmes in the house with Emma Miscue, Jane of Hatfurt's here. Like, you know, MJ's big in sports. Women's sports has become very, very loud

and powerful in our city. So nice to see Canadian athletes come to this tournament. Absolutely. Okay, I feel like I can broker a deal because they're very well may be a professional woman's baseball team in Toronto in the not so distant future. You and I, we're going to talk offline here. You got stories.

I'm like, you got secrets. I got connects here. I got connects here. Pierre, what a pleasure does meet you. He keeps pointing to the swag. I'm pointing to the swag. Go get some swag.

I want you to get your butt to the swag table and get right back here. But Pierre, we need a photo of you giving us the swag bag. Is that part of us all? Honestly, this is great. Now we just need Joe Carter to come here so I can tell him, Joe has had his moments.

I'm going to recite the entire Tom Cheek call of the walk-off home on a 1990. He's never heard that. He's never heard it to me. No, no. Never. When he was on two years ago, I played, you know, the Tom Cheek call.

And he mouthed it like it was a song. He just, I think I was boring him. He's heard of it before. Can you ever get bored of hearing that call? I probably would. It's one of our activation holes a couple years ago. You got to sit in front of a mic and say it. No way.

That's cool. The heading was there and you got to say it. That's pretty cool. Touch them all, Joe. Touch that swag, Pierre. All right, thanks for doing this, buddy. I'm being escorted out by security. to go to this way.

Amazing. Thanks, guys. Thanks, beer. Bye, bye. Right, center field. How many times you think, oh, that one's going to fall? Kevin Palin never thinks that.

This ball is slicing away from it. He stays with it. Tremendous concentration right in the webbing of his glove. We have our first bona fide celebrity of the morning. Kevin Pilar, welcome to Toronto Mike. Oh, thank you. Thank you. We had a discussion, my friend.

Tyler and I about your retirement. And here's the big question. How do you know you're done playing pro ball? How do you know it's time to retire from professional baseball? Sometimes they tell you it's time to be over. Everyone, everyone's a little bit different. You know, there's a lot of people, I wouldn't say a lot of people. There's some people that get to choose when it's time for their career to be over.

They're still, you know, playing a brand of baseball that people still want to employ. There's some people that the game kind of just. passes by. You know, for me, it was a combination of a team telling me it was time to go home. And there's probably a potential that I could have continued going on and playing. You know, it might not have been a big league job right away. It could have been go to AAA, you know, continue to play, wait for an opportunity. But I think for me, mentally, more than physically, I was ready, in order for me to compete at the level that I was able to reach individually, it really took everything I had mentally and spiritually and emotionally.

And, you know, having young kids at home and a wife that's kind of been on this journey for a long time, I was ready. You know, I couldn't be half in, half out. That's not the way that baseball was too challenging for me to say, hey, you know what, I want to be a great husband, great father, and play. Like some things had to sacrifice, and I burn that candle for as long as I could go, and it was just time for me to move on. Now, you've moved on.

I think you've done a great job. Transitioning to the other side, the media side. How did that come to be? Did SportsNet approach you and see if you were interested? Yeah, I was very fortunate. it um two twenty three i was uh

thought i was done playing to be honest with you i kind of put it out in the universe that this was going to be my last year playing you know i had reached my 10 years i had accomplished a lot of things that i wanted to accomplish i started getting those sort of feelings that i just mentioned um i didn't want to go through another off season of the unknown of free agency and the training and all that stuff and sports net kind of have understood where I was at and they invited me to come up for the Dodgers Yankees World Series and I did game three, four, and five in studio. They allowed me to kind of get my feet wet. And yeah, one thing led to another when I officially kind of retired last year, the phone rang.

And they invited me to come back and kind of got to jump on, you know, a little bit in September and then really just kind of wrote the Blue Jays coat tails kind of through an amazing postseason run. And, you know, one thing leads to another. And phone rang again this offseason, asked if I wanted to, you know, kind of be a member of the broadcast. And, yeah, it's been a very nice relationship, something I've been enjoying. And it gives me enough work-life balance that it's hard to say no to it. The 2015, 2016 runs obviously were huge. And you played for a number of teams beyond the Blue Jays.

Do you sort of identify yourself as a Blue Jay looking back in your career? Yeah, definitely, definitely. I think, you know, I was trying to figure out, you know, what direction I was going to kind of go in my career when it was over. And, you know, obviously Sportsnet inviting me back kind of felt nice. and the reception from the fan base was great too, but when I got a chance to go down on the field during the postseason and to kind of be embraced, you know,

by the new front office, by John Snyder and his staff, by some of the players. It definitely made me feel even more part of the organization as someone that was kind of a nomad once I left. You kind of always wanted to figure out, you know, who you kind of would like to be identified with or associated with and, you know, they did a great job of making me feel welcome. So it's easy for me to sit here and say yes. You know, when my career is all said and done, which it is that, you know, I identify with being a blue jake.

Josh, bring her of rain, bring in the hugs. Look at this. Look at this. Josh Donaldson. So last question, because I know you want to go. I can smell the bacon from here, right? So let me ask you this. So in 2015, 2016, the hype, those were great postseason runs. The whole city embraced your team. But last year, you're covering the Blue Jay team that gets to game seven of the World Series. Do you, be honest with me, do you feel this like, paying of like, oh, we were so close, like that you, you want to be on that team, on that bus, on that ride? Like, did you feel any, I want to call jealousy, but any envy that, oh, we were so close? Yeah, I think there's a little bit of envy,

just, you know, people always ask when you're done playing, do you miss playing? And the answer is, no, I don't. You know, I wrote here with Cito and we had that same conversation riding over here. What you miss is the opportunity to chance to do something special. So during the postseason, you know, when people ask me, do I, do you miss playing, I was like, no, but I miss this. You know, if I could, if I could, you know, fast forward through the off season, through spring training, through the 162, and I could just kind of hitch my wagon to. a postseason team and then just kind of play those games. Yeah, I missed that, right?

So there wasn't a lot of envious from the fact that, you know, we had our opportunities and I'm smart enough to know that we didn't execute when we needed to execute. But, you know, for me watching that and I wouldn't even say being a part of it because I'm not a part of the team, but getting a chance to be in the building and cover the game and watch it, there's definitely a level of excitement. you know, for the city of Toronto. I know they've waited a long time and not just the city of Toronto, you know,

nationwide, countrywide. You wanted it for him. You know, to the day I die, I'll never forget that kind of tangible feeling of being in the Dodgers camera well in the ninth inning waiting to come out, you know, with all the other media members. But, you know, we had a plan in place.

You know, they were going to win this World Series. they were going to celebrate. We were going to go set up our area on the field. We were going to try to get players as they were gracious enough to come over, and then the home runs hit, and you could feel the air sucked out of that stadium. You know, 20 seconds before that's hit, you can look around and you see generations and generations of Blue Jays fans, you know, kids, their parents, their grandparents.

You could see it, and you saw how important it was. And I think as a player, you don't understand that when you're in the heat of the moment. You don't understand what you're trying to accomplish. You're very consumed with your group and trying to accomplish something. But when you get further removed from it and you see those sort of things, my heart was broken for the fan base. Well, I want to say on our way out here, I think I told you I'd take five minutes and I stole a few extra here.

But I want to say thank you because those teams, I was a big fan of the 90s teams, and the Cedogaston teams win the World Series. But the teams 2015-2016 brought me right back. I still get excited just thinking about that team. Great time. So I just will say thank you, man. Thank you. Yeah, I think, you know, and I think, you know, obviously it's saying Josh right here.

We set up to accomplish something, you know, try to win a World Series. We didn't accomplish that. But I think what we take a lot of pride in is that baseball was a little bit of a dying sport here in Canada. The Blue Jays were a little bit of a dying brand, you know, from 90s. up until, you know, 2015, there wasn't a ton of success. And I think a lot of us take a lot of pride in the fact that baseball is thriving here. And if we played a little small part in that, especially with the youth, then it was a huge success for us. Well, thank you, Kevin Pilar.

This was amazing. Thank you. Thanks, Kevin. His final stone in his Breyer career. Let me! He wants to lay it right on the edge. Freeze it right to the edge as the crowd comes to its feet too. To applaud what may be his final stone coming underneath, and he does,

and he will sit the shot stone. Joining us now at Olympic gold medalist. Where is that Olympic gold medal, Brad Gushu? It's in my sock drawer. It's pretty cliche and standard, but yeah, it sits there, and I keep it accessible because I do a lot of events, and I like to bring it out and share it with people. But you didn't bring it out today?

I didn't bring it today. I'd be wearing it. I don't like to fly with it because it looks like a donut. So when it goes through the middle, everybody wants to take it out and it brings too much attention. Oh, yeah. Where did you come from to be here today? St. John's. So, yeah, I still live there.

Shout out to Alan Doyle. Yeah, Alan's a good buddy. Yeah, I flew up for this event and played yesterday, playing today. And they treat us really well. And it's a great golf course and great cause. So I love being here, and I'm also a huge baseball fan. So I grew up watching Joe and seeing all the players that are here. It's kind of fun.

Yeah, we just had Kevin Pilar on. And then Josh Donaldson, just out of nowhere, gives them a big, the bringer of hugs comes in. But Brad Gushu, I got Tyler Campbell, my esteemed co-host for this special episode of Toronto, Mike. We have an Olympic gold medalist, a legendary curler, Greg Gushu. The Olympics obviously just passed. I find that the Winter Olympics every time it's on, curling becomes like a huge thing. Now, obviously curling goes on all the time, but there's always a lot of attention on curling

when the Olympics rolls around. How do you think they can kind of build on that momentum and kind of keep that interest all year round? Great question. If I knew the answer, it'd be really good. I have the answer. You need to have the Olympics every year. Well, yeah, that wouldn't hurt. You know what, it is the biggest draw during the Olympics.

The most people watch curling. It also has the most time on TV. And I think people are just captivated. You know, the people that don't watch it normally, when they watch it during the Olympics, they're so drawn into it because you actually get to hear the strategy. Right.

Players talking about the strategy. And I think for viewers that don't see it, that's the most intriguing part. Like, it feels like you're out on the ice with the players as they're having the conversation. Yeah. You know, there's no other sport in the world that I'm aware of that has mics on the players as they're actually competing.

Right. That's a good point. And there was huge controversy. controversy at this most recent there was yeah we need your take on the double touch yeah for sure what are they called boop gate I think uh you know what I think there was a lot of wrongs in that situation I think was it a violation my team

candidate yes um did it have an impact on the shot no um you know we've seen those guys do do that for years and nobody says anything because it really doesn't matter but yes it was a violation I think the reaction was probably a little strong But then also, you know, Sweden kind of, it seemed like they had all that planned out too. So, you know, I think there's a whole lot of wrong in that moment. But at the end of the day, it was probably a lot of right for curling because it brought a lot of attention to the sport. And it was people.

Awareness. Yeah. And during the Olympics, as I just said, we were the biggest sport. But that took it to another level. Like, all of a sudden, we were on late-night talk shows. It was wild. And, you know, hopefully the sport grows from that. attention never hurts, I guess, good and bad.

I know that at some point I've seen a Simpsons episode regarding curling. I think that might be the 2010 Olympics, maybe the Winter Olympics, that the Simpsons got into curling or something. So this is that one time every four years when Americans discover this strange shuffleboard on ice and say this is a great made-for-TV sport. Funny thing is, I think that episode of the Simpsons predicted the U.S. curling win in 2018. Okay, Simpsons predicted.

It was one of those moments. You see those things where they predict things that happen in the future. And, yeah, they predicted U.S. beaten Sweden in 2018, which is exactly what happened. Okay, Brett, so we just had Kevin Pilar on who retired last year, and now he's broadcasting, et cetera. I'm looking at you now. You could still curl at the highest level. Like, why did you retire? I've been out of for 27 years.

But you're 27 years old. I'm trying to do the math in my head. I wish it was 27. I don't feel 27. You know what? I just got tired of being away from home as much as I was. You know, I found myself in the big moments and big events not getting as excited as I was, you know, in the past.

And the biggest thing for me was when I actually went out and started to watch my daughters. My daughters are 14 and 18 and they're starting in the competitive curling world. Right. And I actually got more enjoyment watching them play than playing myself. And that was kind of the point where I knew, okay, it's time to move on. So I'm going to watch. watch them a whole lot more than play going forward. Okay, but if you had not won a gold medal at the Olympics,

do you think you would have held on? Because I think that would be the highest achievement. You know what? When I won the gold medal back in 2006, I was 25 years old, and I felt like I had so much left to achieve and to play for. And I kept going, and the whole drive was to do it again. And then we got to the Olympics in 2022 and won bronze, and I was like, how we could still do it.

And then I just realized for me it didn't matter if I did it again. And I think it was that realization, you know, watching my daughters, that that was probably more important to me. So, yeah, I'm completely at ease with my decision to step away. And, you know, I look forward to being part of the sport in some other way. So I still love the game, but I don't want to play it as much as I used to. Tyler, you got a final question because I know what I want to close with. Sure, yeah.

Do you still get out and curl? Is that something you do recreationally? No, I don't anticipate playing recreationally. I think if I got out there and I wasn't training and competing, I get so frustrated when I miss shots. Because I find that with golf, I used to play very competitive when I was a teenager. Now I go out and play and I'm like, I can't pull out of any of the shots I used to when I get so frustrated out there. But I think I'll be involved in the sport, but I just won't be playing it. Well, broadcasting, surely, like well-spoken, handsome guy.

Come on. Well, we'll see. I'd love to be involved in that. You know, I think I've got a lot of expertise in the sport that I could probably share. So if that opportunity comes around, I'll probably take it. Oh, slam dunk, okay. I'll broker that deal. I'll be the easiest deal I ever close.

I'm working on AMJ becoming a sponsor of Toronto Mike, but we did get some shoes. I was telling you. Dennis, he's a good fella. Is he? This was Pierre. Okay, he's a good one too. Okay, well, they're both good. They're all good at AMJ, future sponsor of Toronto Mike. That's right.

Pierre is Dennis's boss, so you probably want to go to do here. He got us these shoes. We've been here three years now. We've never been gifted any swag. We have to stare at all these people lining up to get their shoes and their clubs and stuff. This is the first year I ever received any swag, and it's because I went straight to Pierre. I shamed the guy on the recording. They're great shoes.

They're like blue swag. Beautiful. Well, a man named Gooshu knows his shoes. I do, yeah. Okay. So what I'm curious about, because I'm curious about, what music you listen to in your personal time. Like, what are your jams? I am a country music fan, and I've only probably turned into one in the last five or six years, but I love...

How did they get you? All that pickup, talk, all the beers and girls. A couple of my teammates, actually, I had no choice, but to listen to it in the car because they would turn it on. And now I love, like Chris Stapleton, Luke Combs. Were you at that Luke Combs show they were at that night? I didn't get up here for that. It seemed like everyone in the world was at the Luke Combs show. I would have love to have been there. But yeah, I love country music. My girls are starting to get into it. Like, they don't tell me to change it right in Newfoundland? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's a good, there's a good country music following in Newfoundland. Okay. Before you converted to country music, yeah. Was there a style, a genre that you would gravitate towards? It was probably more like

rap like Eminem. Okay. It's pretty eccentric if you look at my playlist. Just before the, the briar, he puts on lose yourself. That's right. I can see you. I did, actually. That'll get you fired up. I did. I'm all hyped up right now. Early in my career, I did that until I got to the point where I was like, I need to cool down. Don't curl angry. Don't lose yourself. Funny story, actually. In 2006, I used to get so amped up to play. And my sports psychologist said, you know, you can't be listening to that at hard music.

He said, listen to some stuff that actually settles you down. Kenny G. I actually listen to, oh my God, his name's Michael Bolton. No. The song is Goodbye My Lover. James Blunt. Okay. That's what I listened to before every game at the Olympics. James Blunt, what was that big song? You're beautiful. You're beautiful. It's true. Yeah. So very, I'll sing it for you, Brad.

And Goodbye My Lover is like the saddest song. Yeah, that'll flatten. Imagine going from M&M to Blunt. That's going to be jarring. My goodness. It's pretty eccentric. Okay, but what did you listen to before you won gold? Well, that was it. Oh, Blunt.

Goodbye My lover. Oh, wow. Okay. There you go. That's the recipe. I'm taking a note. I'm going to listen to James Blunt before every episode of Toronto Mike. That's what you do. There you go. Brad Gushu, what an amazing conversation. Thanks for doing this. And thanks for being here. It's for a great time. No, thanks for having you guys. Thanks, Brad. This is the storybook ending. I told my wife before I went to the bump, I said something's going to say something is going to say something.

You know, what can you say? This is awesome. I told everybody I was going to catch the last out. When we didn't score there in the 8th inning, I said, now I'm going to drive into one and run to myself. And I'm thinking that. I said, I've got to be a part of that. You know, you look at the films from last year, I got made the last out. And now this year, you know, it's the game winning home run. I mean, this is, I can't explain it. He knew when he hit it, that it had a chance, and he knew before he reached first base,

that he was a hero all across Canada. Some birds can't be caged. That's my Morgan Freeman. Who did it better? Oh, you know, I didn't record. I didn't record Rod Black. So, Rod Black. My name is Morgan Freeman.

Brought to you by Visa. on a long road to redemption here at the Joe Codda Classic. Joe, one of my favorite people, like Jesus, J.C. He's saved people. But did Jesus touch them all? Jesus touched everybody. Jesus is still touching people. You know that.

Anyway, good to see you guys. So you're the reason I'm here. Award winning podcaster. What do you think? Congratulations, by the way. I haven't talked to you in a long time. Yeah. Well, let's catch up here.

Yeah. You said you thought about coming to my Elmo gig. Is that just as good as buying a ticket and coming to my Elmo gig? I would have bought a ticket. I got there too late and I've been really busy lately with a bunch of stuff. Well, yeah, you got a book. Got a book. Best seller?

I didn't even know you could read about it. I didn't even know that either. There's a lot of pictures. And I got a lot of relatives, obviously, because it's a best seller. So it's fantastic. Well, congrats. And I will tell you this crazy story. Yeah.

Our friends from Barbarians here, shout out Barbarians. I'm sure might be getting some stakes there for that. Can you give me a gift card? Aaron called me. My book was just being published, and he called me a couple of weeks before and said, Rod Buck Martinez can't come to the speaking engagement at Barbarians. And we're doing a thing from Mount Sinai's oncology department. Can you come and speak?

So I said, yeah, sure, for those guys. And they had a beautiful seller if you've ever been down there. And everybody goes there. Do I look like I've been down there? Yeah, well, you should be. I know you've been in, dude, I've seen your studio in your house. So that's a seller. By the way, seller and S-E-L-L-E-R.

Anyway, so get this, this is crazy. So now I speak, we do the thing. And that day, I just got my books. Cut to Black, available on Indigo, and online. And so I get the book, and I have the first one off of, might have been the second, first or second, that was off the presses. I take it back and I thought, you know, we'll auction it off.

So Aaron Barbarian gets up, and I think he's going to get maybe a hundred bucks for it, maybe, whatever. So it goes, 1,000, 2,000, whoa, 3,000, 500,000, $1,000. You can't make that up. Look it up, it's online. You got to look it up. Half a million bucks.

So a guy, I'm not going to mention his name, but he owns a vineyard, and he's obviously very wealthy, but he's the most beautiful, beautiful. Wingrest, yeah, beautiful, yeah, most beautiful heart, and he's a philanthropist, and he is obviously loaded. I think he might have been loaded the other way too. But he bought, he was going to make the donation. But I do think besides some of the holy scriptures, it might be now the most expensive book ever.

And so I just, I swear I pissed my pants. I went like, oh my God. Your first thought is, do I at least get like a 10% cut of that? So I sat with him and I signed it to him obviously. And I sat with him all night and he was the most humble dude. He said, again, I love that. And you know what I love, because I don't know about you guys, you know, we make pretty good livings, but I live on points.

I love points, and I get, you know, I get pissed off when I don't get, here I'm talking, I don't even know he's a billionaire. He's talking about points too. I said, I love them. I love them. So anyway, that's that. But it was, so the book got off to a flying start. Okay, and Jim Lang helped you of this?

Jimmy Lang was my kind of point. He kind of put the pieces together. Yeah, he does that. He did it for Wendell Clerk. Yeah, he kind of mishashed, because it was kind of, kind of scrambly. I wrote for a year and a half, but yeah, they're definitely my words, though. Yeah, we did you write in

crayon? Paint my number. Serious question. Is there, because I'm going to get this book, and I'm going to read this book. Is there anything about you in there? Well, there is actually when you make your... The chapter about... Yeah, no, I... But wait, that's Joe Bowen. Yeah, about the scandal? Yeah, bring Joe out here.

Wait. Hey, where is he? Get him here. But hold on. First, I want to just, real quick. Don't let... We do want to get Joe on. That's actually a must. We must get Joe. To ask him about... he coached my kid. He coached Tyler at a young age. Wow. As a baseball player,

we coached them together. We were good cop, bad cop. Don't let me get away. He was the bad cop. But, you know, the last two years, so thank you for the fact I'm here, because the first year you introduced me to Rahul and you got me in here. You probably got a membership now.

They probably go to. But here's what happened this year for the first time. You were unable to make this happen. But this happened this year. What? We got some swag. I got a pair of shoes. I got you swag last year.

No. So you got a free meal. I got a free meal. You got shoes? I got family. I'll get you these hats. Get you these hats too. So you know why this is the hat like this year?

Do you have an idea? Jump and Joe? The statue. Yeah, I know. If I get Joe on, if I'm lucky enough to get Joe on, I want to talk about the statue. Last year was the Ted Rogers statue on the hat,

and that was not as popular. Was there pigeon shit on the shoulder of that too? Nothing. Hey, listen. It's interesting. Here's a good little trivia question. Only two stadiums had the owners, have owners of the statues outside them.

Can I guess? Yeah. Is there a Steinbrenner statue outside of you? No, here's Joe Carter. Joe Carter. And then along came Joe. Bring Joe in. Bring Joe in here. Here, I'll move out of the way.

Let's get that radio voice. This is the first time ever, by the way. This is the first time ever that Joe Carter in 17 years actually has his voice. Because he's usually got laryngeitis from partying all night. No, not partying. It's those bus rides because you get all the guys on the bus, and they're talking about how it was when they played. I mean, you get Kenny Lofton, Josh Donaldson, Russell Martin, Fred McCrary,

and it is loud. So Shigget Shiggy Hasegawa is his first time here. Booner, you've got to have him on. He's unbelievable. And he's like, I'm sitting next to him. He goes, Joe, it's so loud on here. It's like, it's 8 o'clock in the morning. and so much energy, but that's the fun part.

Hey, listen, I saw Shiggy this morning. So Shiggy and I were partners in the Skins game yesterday, and we failed miserably. Yeah. So I said, I'm watching Shigi's scores out there, and he says, Shiggy, what happened? It goes, oh, Joe caught him. Joe caught.

And then he goes, he said, every time I punt, every time I putt, I see Joe face in my head. And he missed the fuss. He is the funniest guy, man. I'm telling you. He is awesome. We got to get him. Joe, love this event.

This is your 17th year. 17th year, yes. Wow, and it's such a great cause for the Children's Aid Foundation of Canada. So kudos to you. Well, thank you very much. You know, there's three people who have been to every event. Well, yeah, three. Well, really two, because Rod Black, my guy here.

Wow. Mike Korsiolenski, you know, we didn't have it doing COVID. You know who's the other one who didn't make it to all 17? Joe. It was called the No Carter Classic. Yeah, the No Joe. He couldn't come into Canada. Right. But besides me, and those two, Kenny Lofton. So Kenny made it for the Skins game yesterday.

I think Kenny Lofton should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame. Wow. You know, we had that discussion on the bus. And Cedogaston. We had that discussion on the bus yesterday. It's a snub. It is amazing. And who was talking to me? By the way, Joe's numbers are, there will be players that never get the numbers that Joe Carter get and the clutch RBIs that he had his ability to hit 30, 30, 120 RBIs. Nobody does that. Nobody does that. But here's the thing, Rod.

The home run to win the World Series, I think, really hurt me. Maybe. Explain. Explain. Because they always say that one moment cannot get you into the Hall of Fame. And so they look at that moment. When you hear the name Joe Carter, you think of the World Series home run only until you dig deeper into the stats and you look at it for a 10. year period. I was number one

in home runs, RBIs, extra base hits, doubles, all those things. Do you know who else? It's funny that you say that. I just dawned on me. You know who else is not in a Hall of Fame? Paul Henderson. Paul Henderson for a moment. And he had great... But Paul Henderson's career

was nothing like Joe Carter's career. But Paul Anderson, I do believe. If you're... For a hockey moment... Is he here today? I saw him here a couple years ago. No, he's not here today. Okay. But the thing is with Kenny, Kenny was, just like me, was off the it after one year. And you have to be kidding me because

where the discord is is that you have the writers who never played the game, they're voting for the Hall of Fame. So when you're sitting up in the stands watching the game and you're writing about it, and if they have a hard on for you? You become the expert. But until you put that uniform one and go out there and play,

it should be where you have 80% of the vote is done by the players. The media has maybe 20, 10% or so. And so you come in, they should not have all the power. And that's where the problem is. If the players voted, Mike,

I'm going to tell you, this guy's in. Without a doubt. The biggest injustice in my mind in the Hall of Fame, biggest injustice, Cito's not in the Hall of Fame. I don't care what anybody says. He was a players manager for his black, historic. He's one of the back to back. Back to back.

Ask this guy. Ask all of the people he played for. And by the way, he comes across to that gentleman. He was a fierce, fierce manager and smart manager. He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. I agree. I agree 1,000 percent. It's ingested.

But here's what happens. They look at it as USA and Canada. And it's a shame that it's done like that because they'll say, oh, well, Joe Carter's home run. It wasn't as big as Kurt Gibson's. Give me a break. Give me a break. Walk-off, Win a World Series. For the LA Dodgers and it's in the U.S.

And he couldn't jump. He was limping. Yeah, he was limping. It was a great moment and everything, but that's where the injustice comes at. Joe, before somebody steals you from me, I got to ask you, were you consulted on what your statue will look like, the statue that will be outside the skydome?

Do, do, do, do, do, do, do. This guy's one of my best friends. I talk to him almost every week. Last year, he never told me about that, And he knew for the longest time because he kept it under cover. And he never told me. I knew on June 19th, my dad's birthday that when they called me in, they talked about there's going to be a statue.

And I could not believe it. I was in tears, tears of joy. And so they said, you can't tell anybody. And so he never told anybody. Well, if you tell Rod, you'd be telling me. Yeah. I'd call me out. Exactly.

So, so, no, I had some involvement in it. But, yeah. So have you not seen it? Oh, no, I've seen it. Okay, I'm just making sure. Okay, okay. He's seen it. He's seen it. He built it.

I, by the way, have a statue as well. It's a very small one. It's in Trance going to Manitoba. It's made out of earwax. I have been lobbying for years, Joe Carter, say let's get rid of the Ted Rogers statue and put up a Joe Carter statue to commemorate that moment.

I'm so excited it's finally happening. They need to put more out there. And nothing wrong with Ted. You have to start somewhere. Ted Rogers, by the way. Yes. No, I'm not here's slight Ted Rogers, but I mean, they're not.

The Blue J's probably. aren't really here. No one bought a ticket to see Ted Rogers. So we're back to our trivia question, and he knows the answer to this. The only other stadium with the owner as a statue, only other stadium in baseball. I don't know the answer.

You played them in the 1992 World Series. Ted Turner. Oh, Ted Turner? Yeah, yeah. But you need more statues. But kudos to the Rogers family because they were so graciously said that they would move the statue of Ted Rogers

to make room for mine. So that's, that's an honor for me. about this. This is so long overdue. Dave Steve needs to have a statue. Robbie Al-Avars, iconic, come there. That's not going to happen. You know what? I think down the road it will. I think that's got to be solved

because I think it's still, there's a lot to that. There's a lot of gray area to that. But what would be the second statue? Everybody agrees. Jose Bautista. Oh, the bat flip. Batflip. I think, I think a Roy Holiday. I think Roy Holiday is going to get a statue for sure. What about Carlos Delgado?

Carlos Delgado was, hey. There's another. guy you should be in the Hall of Fame. Carlos has, that is an injustice for sure. First of all, it should not have taken Fred McGriff to go

through the Veterans Committee to be elected into the Hall of Fame. Unbelievable. And Carlos, without a doubt, that's why you've got to give the players because we know who the Hall of Famers are. I agree on the Canada thing

with you either. But also, Carlos Delgado protested American occupation of Puerto Rico by not standing for the star spangled banner. Wow. And I think that hurts him. Well, it hurts the writers because they all think they're smarter than the average bear. Yeah, exactly.

Hate that shit. Yeah. I hate that shit. But Joe, we love you, man. I remember the first time you came on Toronto Mike a couple of years ago. I played the Tom Cheek call. And you mouthed it.

Like, he just... I've only heard it like, what? One, two, three... Times a day. I won't bother of it. But I just want to ask, I'm going to play a little bit of something just to say how familiar you.

with her, Cammy? Just to see. Well, it ain't so funny when you lose your money and the Blue Jays bite the dust. Like last year's racing when the Jays were chasing and the whole damn thing went busts. Then Gilli got tired of standing back And his face made an evil grim

He said, If you don't give me a pen in this year, I'm going to trade your butts and win. And then he lost it. And then? And then? He put Tony on a bus to San Diego. And then?

He rang George's bell. And then? He called everything. to Cleveland. And then along came Joe. Beautiful. Along came Joe. People forget that Devo came along in that same time.

That was, that was, that was, I mean, to have two-go glove guys with Devo and center, Robbie a second base. I felt I should have bought a ticket plan right field. Because all I did was watch those guys play the whole time. One last thought from a fan before we let you go, Joe. This is amazing. But I will say I was always grateful that you were at first base when Mike Timlin fielded the Otis Nixon Bunn.

Because I feel like the low-key John Allerud, he would have caught the ball at first, and he might have pumped his fist a little bit. But we know if Joe at first, he catches that ball for Mike Timlin, he's leaping. That's the moment. Joe jumps every day. Like Joe, Joe gets out of bed.

He jumps around. Like, we're going to see him. He jumps. Joe still jumps. His vertical's not as good. Let me tell you something. If you go back and look at the 93 World Series, check out the guys, and you'll see Oderoo jumping up and down. Oli, he's one of those closet guys.

Sneaky. You know, he is sneaky. He is funny. He would have been jumping up and down. But I asked Cito, I'm like, Cito, why did you have me at first base? It's like, you know, I didn't really play first base in this game six of the World Series. Yeah. Bottom of the 10th, he said, Joe.

What did you tell Timlin about Nixon? And after the first pitch, I said he's going to bun. He said, thank you very much. Wow. Yeah. Here's a little, I just, I did not know this until last week. And I hosted the series, and again, I've watched video, film forever. Joe catches the ball on a lot of people automatic.

When a guy catches the ball, generally basketball, whatever, pox, the person who has it keeps it. Right. I'm going to tell you a lot about Joe Carter. Okay. Joe Carter had that ball. And a lot of people don't know, he gave that ball to Mike Timlin. Yeah.

Yep. It was Timlin's first Big League save. Wow. And the thing I was more proud was. On the field right there. And the video is incredible. And he goes, and Mike is asking me, he goes, Joe goes, no. Yeah.

Wow. That's a great team. Unbeknownst to me that I would get a better ball of the next year. So, yes. Joe has had his round. Yes. Joe's got a lot. Joe's got balls.

Joe's got balls. Touch him all, Joe. Jumping balls. A long game, Joe. Anyway, good seeing you, brother. Thank you, Joe Carter. Always a pleasure to see you. Thank you for being here.

Living legend. And another living legend, Rod Black. You're the reason I'm here, brother. I never forget these things, man. Joe Carter, he does it all. This guy's touched them all for 33 years, and he keeps touching hearts. I've been milking that home run for 33 years.

This guy never buys a beer in the sea. Well, yeah, because I don't drink. Hey, Mike, thanks for coming down. Thank you, guys. Yeah, thank you, Mike. Here's Clark down the boards to Gilmore. Gilmore to Bobby Rose. Shot scores.

Nikolai Borishefsky has scored for Toronto. The Leif's win. The Leaves win. Has in come Hechtol to grab Potbath. Now Potbent Hextall are fighting. Off comes Potthans Helmet. Hextall throwing punches at Potbath. Felix throwing an upper cut last.

Oh! Right on the button. They're whaling away at one another. Hector's sweater's up. That's a fine. Here's another throwing punch. Hector with an uppercut. Felix throwing wags and left.

The pile-up is underneath, but the main event is the goaltender. And out comes Barrison with one man back. Barrison with Thomas. Thomas! Scores! Stevie Thomas! Centered in front. Knocked away.

Still loose in front. Back to the blue line. Stop. Bunk can't get a shot. Six seconds left. McGilney. Along the porch doesn't get it out. Another shot red and blocked.

Another chance. Bless you, boys. What a game. Unbelievable. Into the slot. Cabaret doesn't shoot it. Now he does. Who's fucking run down and thereby.

Leave it. No! Back four! Sixthore with 28.8 second left. The league will try the game. Don't tell me about heart and dedication and resilience. This is unbelievable. Sondin carries it out. He's got Gild breaking. Sundane's in over the line with a shesk!

Nielander is stuck. Center in front! They score! Welcome to the NHL! rebound along the board has played high to center ice. Here's Matthews with Nielander, 2 on 1, back! ...accus. Across the line, dropping it back for Gardner, passes in, that was deflected line. Backhand! And that's off the mark wide. And now the shes!

Deflected by Quarterbrough! Martin swinging it back for Boyle. Boyle back of the goal. It's shot! Scores! Scores! Are you kidding me? Capitan slaps at home! What a brilliant pass from Leaves win it in overtime.

On to the boards and back to the point. It comes to Morgan Riley. Dished off on the far side. Ceree pass! Goat! It's center. It comes around to the left wing side. Long shot deflected in on goal.

That was stopped. There's a rebounds. Go! Johnny Torado! I wonder if they fired it high and wide. Matthews trying to corral it to keep it in, just did. Top of the circles. Skos stick! Back into the corner for Nyes. Nyes, back in the net for Tavares. Tavares coming out. Sends it in. He's in over the line, dropping for Max. Max into the slot, shooting. Billy Mconads, Joe Bowen on Toronto. And that's $25 because it's copyrighted. And I'll take cash money order or anything else you got. It is copyrighted, isn't it? Yes, it is.

Smart. Yep. Yeah. I don't know why I did it, but somebody suggested that I do. Well, you're smart to do that. You know, whenever I say yes, guy, and then Jim Taddy sends me an input. Well, I hope so. I would hope so.

The problem is we can get you idiots to pay it. That's the problem. Do the Ticats owe you a shit ton of money? I don't know, because I got it from my dad. Okay. Okay. So I don't know where he got it. He passed away when I was 14, so I was.

I never got to ask him. But, yeah, so anyway. Amazing. Apparently, I heard, the first time I heard it was when Bill Burlco scored. Oh, wow. I was being walked around because I was fussing. 16 days old. Maybe the most iconic goal in Maple Leaf history, Bill Burlco.

Maybe. They're making a talk about it right now. I hope Pekin talked to you. I did an interview regarding it, which is I'm looking forward to it. Yeah. Yeah, I'm all over. Is Kevin Shea's involved? That's the whole thing here.

Joe Bowen, how is retirement treating you? I don't know. It's true. How would you know? This was normal. This was normal. Wait a little September rolls around. When October, September rolls around.

Then I'll figure out whether I'm going to get you back on to find out any regrets. I feel like... No, no. No. There won't be. There won't be. I'm quite happy with the decision. I'm looking forward to doing some other things and yeah.

Okay. I have a question about Austin Matthews's 70th goal. Okay, so it never happened. But you must have had it locked and loaded. I mean, he was at six. Right. Yeah. And I'm guessing the great Joe Bowen, you had something in your mind maybe?

What would you have said at the East Course 7? I don't know. I've never, never like people, well, what would you have said the least one stand-cock? Well, I said, well, first off, I would not prepare something. Right. It has to be spontaneous. Right. And you don't know the circumstances.

You don't know whether it was an empty net goal or whether they were up 7-1 in the third period or something. I mean, you think of things that maybe go through your mind that you, you think of things that maybe go through your mind that you would like to incorporate, but a lot of it, like, I really felt so sorry for the guys who did the Blackhawks, and they'd done all those years, and then Kane scores the goal, and no one knows it's in the net, right? There's no iconic call. There is no, and I felt so bad for the guys, the Black Hawk guys who are doing the game, because they didn't get to do it. Right, yeah. So you don't know what you would have said, because Austin never scored number 70? No, no. I have no idea what I would have said. I'm sure I would have gotten excited.

and I'm sure Holy Maconaut what I got in there somewhere, but I don't know. Do you remember the last time we met? It was at GLB Brew Pub. You had the logger, the Holy Macanaw Logger for Great Lakes. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of neat. And we raised some money for sick kids, which was great. Absolutely.

Joe, obviously, you know, you're going to find yourself with some free time in the fall. Are you going to follow the leaves closely? Oh, yeah, no, I want to do a lot of stuff with the alumni. I think I'm going to be kind of involved in some of the ambassadorship, whatever, with the team to kind of go around. And all I've said is I'm probably going to go to the games, but I'll have three Crown Royal and Diet in me before the first faceoff. If the game's not good, I can always go home early. I mean, it's going to be the best of both worlds, so we'll see. How are you feeling about the new regime in the...

I'm excited for them. I'm excited for them. I think they've got some young people with some obviously different ideas. different approaches. And as I said, I really don't care if they're good. But if they're this lucky, and we got really lucky here with the draft, everything else, I said, lucky will be much better than good.

I think because we haven't had any luck. So why not working through it? We've got all kinds of people here that are just, yes. He scored 70 goals. Yes, he did. And I called a few of his, too. I'm pretty sure. It's a short list.

I think if we should be. so lucky to ever, I mean, in my life, I've never seen my Maple Leafs in a Stanley Cup final because I was born after 1967. But if they ever returned by some grace of God, Bowen's got to be invited in the booth. I think you're the most beloved Maple Leaf, play-by-play guy.

I appreciate that, but, well, I'm the only one that's alive. But the boss is dead, you know? Bill's dead, too. Buckhole's no longer with us. But I've often said this, and I say it jokingly, but it really is a truth. They do win.

And they will at some point in time. I hope that I'm here. I hope that I'm here. But they have to start the parade in Timmons. Oh, because of the boat. Oh, no, yeah. Oh, no. And it'll be lined.

Yeah. It'll be lined all the way down Highway 11. I've implored them to make a small detour through my hometown of Sudbury and then pick it back up and come down through North Bay down Highway 11. So much heritage. Oh, no. It'd be, it'd be absolutely insane. All those boys who worked in the mines and the lumber yards.

where a lot of the players came from, the outdoor rinks of Northern Ontario. Absolutely. It's funny hearing Joe say, you know, he'll be alive, and I'm thinking, I hope my great-grandchildren are alive. You have to have a positive attitude. You're right, Joe. That's true.

Dial it back. Joe Bowen, I've wanted to get you on my microphones for years, chat you up. You mean so much to me and my buds, and you're the voice of Maple Leaf hockey, and we bleed blue and white, and holy Macon, as a phrase, I owe you so much money.

I owe him so much money. Best interview I've had in a long time. But thanks for dropping by. Any final questions for the legend that is Joe Bowen? Your most memorable call, what would you say your most memorable call is as a leave broadcaster? Unfortunately, we lost the person who really was able to make it happen in Cliff Lechard just recently.

And because of what the 80s were like under Harold and everything else, the Nikki Borshefske goal. I've always thought was sort of, they haven't won. I understand that, but it hasn't been for the lack of effort, the lack of money, the lack of commitment from ownership and anything all the way through. But that was sort of the high watermark at that point and the turning point for the franchise. So I think that's, yeah, yeah, Mark Askins' work on the Patsure returns. Well, I haven't. I still have the HHS. They said they were going to sell maybe 20,000 copies. They went like 600,000.

I mean, it was ridiculous. I have people always coming back to me and got pictures of me. I look a lot better then, too. My hair was darker. Deeming Cox with a full head of hair. He's got a mullet, I think. Yeah, exactly. The passion returned, I loved that run.

Oh, my God. And I love those teams, man, with Dougie Gilmore and Wendell Clark. Yeah. Honestly, thank you for those years of service, my friend. Thanks, Joe. I've got to get a quick selfie with you, but thanks for making your Toronto Mike debut. You're now an FOTM, friend of Toronto Mike. There it is.

Well, there you are. All good. Thank, Joe. Yeah, I'm surprised they're not chasing this. Outturn, try to keep their shooter in play, you know, roll towards the corner guards. They always have a plan. I mean, they're hoping to blank. No.

Oh, wow. Oh, oh. This is, uh, trying. Oh! It's good. Oh, what a great God. Oh, let's do that. That helps the cause.

Gee, that curls a lot there. You think about how aggressively she released this rock, like a little positive inside out, and it came right back, even with that weight. What a great shot. Tyler, I think we're now a curling podcast. I think so. So we had Brad Gushu on the show.

Now we have another great legendary curler. Emma Misskew, how are you doing? I'm good, thanks. Thanks for having me. I was asking Brad, we were talking about the controversy at the last Olympics with the... What is it called? Double touch? What is it term?

The boob? What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I mean, it was a situation, I think, that obviously got blown up and it was like it was an unfortunate timing. It wasn't involving us initially, and then we kind of got brought into it. just because the officials started looking for it. And I think that it was just, yeah, it was a tough one just because, like, they'd never been looking for that before. And then for the first time ever, they're looking for something at the Olympic Games.

And they're quite far away from seeing our hands. So it's just, it was one of those, like, how can you know for sure that someone touched the rock without, like, slow motion video replay? So thankfully, that ended part of the way. way through. But it was very, it was quite distracting at first. Distracting, but it was a great awareness campaign for curling. Yeah. Like a world stage, right?

Like a lot of people got into curling because of the controversy. Yeah, it ended up like, and thankfully it wasn't us that were the kind of front and center cause of that. But it was unfortunate in the moment because you're competing and you have all these pressures already. And then to also have to think about that was kind of like unfurricular. fortunate, but it was, I guess, yeah, it did get curling a little bit more exposure than normal. Now, I know you want to get out on that course and get some swings in, and I know I promised you

a minute and it's already been twice that. So two quick hits and then if Tyler has a question, but thank you for doing it. One is, I see the Olympic Rings necklace. Yeah. Okay, so, like, what's your best memory from these Olympic games? And is that dream come true? Yeah, I think, like, just the way it started, it was really stressful and we weren't, we started one and three and might not have thought we could stand on the podium at the end. So to actually stand on the podium with my teammates after battling so hard that week was like definitely my favorite memory. And I did notice when you were chatting with the fan 590 guys, they got you first,

okay? Next year we're going to get them first. I noticed you have a like a dog paw tattoo. Tell us what that is about. Yeah. Those are kind of outlines of my dog's paw prints. So I thought it would be a nice way to kind of keep them with me all the time. And I travel a lot.

And yeah, I'm a dog lover. I'm very much an animal person. I love my dogs. Very nice. Tyler, any questions here before you're going to get on. You know, you mentioned the sort of tougher start at this year's Olympics. What's, I imagine Canada is always sort of expected to be at the top of the podium. How do you sort of manage those expectations and deal with the pressure?

Yeah, it's not even as much the pressure. The last two years we won the World Championships, and everyone kind of watches what you do, and then you get everyone's best game sometimes, and they're playing outside of their normal game, and sometimes that can turn into a loss, and there's only 10 teams at the Olympics, so starting one in three is scary,

and a couple of those games could have gone either way, And so it's not as much the pressure as it was just like, we know we're the best team. So why are we in this situation? And we had to just really, we had to battle. And I thought we, like, it just showed a lot of character and resilience. And yeah. So I promised one minute. I took four because I'm an asshole.

But good luck out there today on the course. Thank you so much. VP of Sales, Tyler Campbell. Here we are at the end of another extraordinary. ordinary live recording from Glenn Abbey, the Joe Carter classic. From your perspective, how do things go today? Well, you know, it's my first time here, so I don't really have anything to compare it against. But it felt like a good day.

You know, maybe not the breadth of guests as you've had in the past, but you went deeper with some of the guests this year. Fewer guests, but longer conversation. Quality. You went for quality. It's about time. You got a lot of Joe Carter this year, which is very exciting. A lot of Joe Carter. An interesting Joe, like I got to revisit the Joe Carter. Carter segment. So, like, I don't know how your memory is. Can you remember everybody who popped on

the mic today? Sure, I think so. We had Kevin Pilar. Well, started with. Oh, we had Pierre. AMJ's CEO. That's right. No longer is MJ Campbell. But he gave us our shoes. He was, he came through for us. Pierre was the MVP of today. You know what? AMJ may not be a pain sponsor, but you'll give you as the VP of sales. I feel like the onus is on you to close that deal. I'm going to reach out to Pierre and we're going to make some things happen. Send him the clip. I'll see. send you the audio to send to Pierre. Okay, so we started with AMJ. Yes, Pierre. Typically, we start with Rick Vive, but he's not here today. No Rick Vive this year. No. And we thought Ernie Clement would be here, but apparently he only played the Skins game yesterday.

He's not here today, but you know, the Js are active. So yeah. Okay. Who was the first celebrity guest? Kevin Pilar. Kevin, Superman, and he was verbose. He had a lot to say. He was great. He didn't look like he wanted to be here at first. He was looking around very perfectly. I know that look. Yeah, but he settled in and he he was great. He was great. Yeah, Kevin Pilar. Now that he's a broadcaster, he knows how to talk on a mic.

That's right. He's got things to say. That's right. Josh Donaldson came by and hugged him. Yeah, and I thought we'd get Josh back on. No, Josh. He's already an FOTM. No, Josh.

But we didn't get Josh. But we did get a video footage of him hugging Kevin Pilar on front of mic. That's as good as goal. The bringer of hugs. Okay, who came on after Kim Pilar? Brad Gushu, the Curling Ler. Was he after? Yeah, because he was standing here waiting to get on while Kevin

exciting to have like a lineup. He was raring to go. Well, he's a curler. Yeah. And he lives in St. John's Newfoundland. So he's, you know, a down-to-earth good Canadian boy. Okay, so that was some good curling talk. Who was after Brad? Then I think we had Rod. Oh, Rod Black. Yeah. The reason we got invited year one was basically a quid pro quo because I brought Rod Black into the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball deal. Yeah. And then, and he sat down. He was great. And then, of course, the legend. And then along came.

Joe, I think that's the highlight is when I played that song. He kind of lit up. He knew the song. That's a Chum FM song for back in the day. Yeah, Joe came over and I wisely stepped away from the mic and let Joe have a seat because he's... You gave up your mic for Joe. I would give up my mic for Joe any day. What a sweetheart.

Yeah. And you got a lot of time with Joe. Yeah. And it was interesting. The statue talk, the Hall of Fame talk. You know, I personally don't think Joe Carter belongs in Cooperstown, but I didn't want to, like, say that to the man's face. No, but, you know, we can... I mean Carlos first.

Carlos first. Joe belongs in the hall of very good. 30, you know, if you look at things like wins above replacement, Joe's numbers are less impressive. He had a lot of, like, you know, empty power. But he had the moment. He had the moment. Joe has had his moments. Joe has had his moments.

So I did love the deep dive of Joe Bo. I almost said Joe Bowen. Well, we'll get to him. Joe Carter. Okay, who came next. Well, so while you were chatting with Joe and Rod, I talked to two people. I talked to Devon White. Devo.

Devo, who was very nice and said, I really have to go and get this old body warmed up. And he took a pass. Two minutes, Devo, two minutes. I tried. You got to do like Bruce Allen. Just give me two minutes. You got to do it.

You got to do it. No. Devo passed. And then the great Russell Martin. I got a fist bump from Russell Martin. And he originally said yes. I said, you know, Joe and Rod are here. And then when they're done, maybe you can step on for a couple minutes.

And he was raring to go. and then he thought about it for a minute and he said, you know what, I got to hit some golf balls. But did you tell him we were going to do a very short tribute to Roger. What's this last name? Roger Brulot. I wanted to do a tribute to Roger. That was my...

Not your father, Roger. No, that was my mistake. I didn't leave with that. You got to lean on that. Like, the man is shadowed to Ridley Funeral Home, right? And you're like, we're going to just pay tribute. It'll take... That's a 20-second clip.

Yeah, yeah. I missed the boat on that. Second year in a row I wanted to play. So Russell said he was going to go hit some golf balls and he would be back in half an hour. It has now been... That was 90 minutes ago. 55 minutes, and I don't think Russell's coming back. Okay, but those are, I'm glad you took those big swings.

I tried. Yeah, and Devo, a quick, fun fact, I was at the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game at Christy Pitts on Sunday, and Jeremy Diamond from the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame, he came up to say hi, and Jeremy Diamond invited me to record from St. Mary's on June 20th, and one of the inductees is a guy named Devon White. You'll get them then.

If I go. I haven't decided. He's got to... I got to talk to him on there. He's got to get that old body stretched out. So he's still stretching. Okay. So who came on after...

Where are we at now? Joe Carter and Rod Black. That's right. Then I believe we went to Joe Bowen. Holy Macon. I wanted to get Joe Bowen on my mics. I wanted a longer form chat, but I say we got a good, I don't know,

a good five to ten minutes of Joe, and I enjoyed it. That was a great chat with Joe. He seems... He's got a good sense of humor. He does. He also seemed a little reticent at first when you invited him over,

but he warmed up immediately. Once you put a mic in front of him, you know. Yeah. He's going to do his thing. Muscle memory. Yeah. Okay. So we had another great Joe, that was Joe Bowen.

Yeah. And then where did we go from there? Then we had Emma Miskue. Emma Miskue. And again, pardon my ignorance. I had to be educated on who exactly she was and why she's a big deal. Because she, the main woman you might know is Rachel Holman. Who is also here.

We saw Rachel, but we didn't get a chance to get her on the mic. So how does that work? Like Rachel is the head skip and then... She's the skip and Emma is the second, I believe. Okay. Yeah. But Emma sat down and Rachel didn't. That's right.

So as far as I'm concerned, Emma is the skipper and Marianne. Okay, is that our final celebrity? I believe that was it. We saw a number of people. Jeremy Roanick. Jeremy Roanick, we saw, we saw Mike Crucial Niskey, who I was really hoping to get, but he's He went to the washroom. He spent a long time in the washroom and he either slept past us or he may still be in there.

We could tell him. some brand recipes or something. Help them out there. Okay. I want to say, right now I want to say thank you to the VP of, you're already in the FOTM Hall of Fame, so I'm not sure I can give you like an executive suite. But, you know, you pinch hit here for Tim Heron,

who did this the last two years. That's right. The great Tim Harron. And, you know, you were at my door at six, whatever, almost 630 in the morning. And we, you brought me here. But you not only that, you did do your best to get Devon White, and you did your best to get, who else?

Russell Mark. Martin. Yeah, we came close. You know, you struck out, but you tried. Yeah. You were at the plate. You miss 100% of the shots that you don't take. Wayne Gretzky. Michael Scott. Michael Scott. That's right. So thank you for, you know, you're going to have to drive me home. You know that, right? But thank you for your help with this. It was a pleasure. This was a lot of fun. You also did what you did that I appreciate is you co-hosted. Like, you had good questions. You know, I tried to bring a little class to the proceedings.

But let's just tell the listeners our plan for Mike Crucialinsky had he come on our mics. We were going to go dive deep into the filming of the filming. of the Leafs are the best video. What a, what a video, what a momentous piece of cultural history that is. And one day I hope to talk to the crusher about that one. Well, listen, I think they're still out there. Like, they're here.

There's a glass window beside me. Yes. And beyond that, there's a bunch of golfers. Celebrities. What's that called? The shotgun start? Shotgun start. What does that mean exactly?

I don't know. Okay. There's going to be a shotgun. I hope it's not a real shotgun. I don't think so. I think maybe at one point it was. But now it's... But like, I feel like,

what do we got to lose? Are they going to kick? We already did a great job. We're going to be invited back next year. Would you be my driver next year? It would be my pleasure. Oh, wow. Okay. And next year we're going to get Russell Martin on. Absolutely, we will. So thank you also. Rahul is the guy who has to bless us recording here.

Because to paint the picture, again, you got the Fan 590. They just wrapped for the morning. Then there's a bunch of masseuses here that just sort of showed up and came between us. They had some very prime placement in front of us. Right. So I think they might have stolen. and some of our thunder. Oh, by the way, if Bernie Nichols had popped on,

because he walked by, we missed him. He was on the last two years. Apparently he's an avid hunter. Like, there's some story about him almost. Somebody, I think Tiger Williams took his crossbow and fired it across a dressing room, and it almost murdered. Like, this is a legendary story out there about

Tiger Williams taking Bernie Nichols crossbow and almost murdering in an age of a player. Wow. That would have been quite a story. Well, gosh. Let's talk about all the, stories we didn't get. But thank you to Tyler.

Thank you, Mike. We'll do this again next year because you never know what's going to happen here. You never know what's going to happen at the Joe Carter Classic. You don't know what curler will talk to us. And that brings us to the end of our 1,90014th show, 1914. This was a very good one. Go to Toronto Mike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs and put June 25 in the calendar.

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Recycle My Electronics.C.A. And, of course, Ridley Funeral Home, the next episode of Life's Undertaking features Heather Rankin. Oh. That's a big name. That is a big name. Brad Jones is nervous. I bet he is.

Jesus. Biggest name in Life's Undertaking history. Big get. Big get. See you all tomorrow. I should know this. This is a Wednesday. Who's on tomorrow?

It's terrible I don't know, and I don't have internet to check. What will I do? Who's on tomorrow? I can tell you. Hang on. Oh, yeah, because I put that picture. Okay, I will vamp. Tyler Campbell is checking because I put a screen cap. James Dan.

Okay, you know what this is? Okay. Brad Bradford is running for mayor. Okay, yes. I was not aware. So he's not running for city counselor. This is a very dear friend of Professor Pricklethorn who's running to replace Bradford as city counselor.

Okay. Now, there is a celebrity who has entered the fray. A CTV, Natalie Johnson. Do you know this name? Yes, I know that name. So this is going to be tough to beat Natalie Johnson, who's a big name. James Dan is going to try to do it. James Dan is going to try to do it.

He's my guest tomorrow morning. See you all. Then. Bye.