Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Larry Fedoruk KOTJ: Toronto Mike'd #259

Episode Date: August 29, 2017

Mike and Larry play and discuss his ten favourite songs.

And right now, right now, right now it's time to... Take out the jams, motherfuckers! I'm in Toronto where you wanna get the city love. I'm from Toronto where you wanna get the city love. I'm a Toronto mic, wanna get the city love. My city love me back for my city love. Welcome to episode 259 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a local independent brewery producing fresh craft beer. And propertyinthesix.com, Toronto real estate done right. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me to kick out the jams

is broadcaster Larry Fedorek. How are you? Welcome back. Thank you. 259. It's so weird because that was my first address ever of the first house I ever lived in. Do you think that was a coincidence? I did my homework.

Okay, homework. I made that up. Oh, now I feel silly. Sorry. You have the new record for the shortest time period between visits because it was only episode 254 when you drop by

for what I call the deep dive the real talk for those who haven't heard it yet and want more Larry in their life in episode 254 Mike chats with Larry Fedorek who haven't heard it yet and want more Larry in their life. And why wouldn't you? In episode 254, Mike chats with Larry Fedorek about his years at CFTR, CKFM. That's 99.9 for those who don't know.

Kiss, with a C because there's a country involved. And it was Canadian. Right, right, right, right. And News Talk, 610 CKTB. Now, please tell us, since you were last here, do you still have that gig? I do. Yeah.

Why? Was there something I said that you thought maybe put that in jeopardy? No, I actually thought after, I was sure that maybe when somebody like Ben Dixon or something heard that episode, your phone would be ringing. Right, right. They'd be calling you up to Capital City. Yeah, well, he already fired me once, so.

Is that right? You're in a big club there, I think, a lot of greats. I hear things, but what do I know? It was nice. You know, I shouldn't say it that way. It was fine. It's okay. I've had one interaction with him,

and he wasn't happy with an episode I did with somebody who used to work there, but I don't know why I was in trouble because all I do is turn on the microphone. Yeah. When you have somebody on who has maybe some backwards controversial view, that's not on you, right?

No, but I did get in trouble once for a guest's comment, and my program director said you should have challenged him more on that, and I thought at the time that he kind of sunk himself and that his words were okay. And she insisted that I should have challenged him and I got a little bit of trouble for that.

Is that because your lack of challenge could be perceived by some as condoning the thoughts or maybe alliance with this viewpoint? Yeah, I think that was the reasoning, but I disagreed with that. I thought that it was just a point in the conversation and we moved on onto something else. Well, so whatever. You've done a lot of talk,

so yeah, you're going to have something or other in that many hours of talk. Next time you have a situation like that, you're going to stop and go, I'm appalled! That's right. It's ridiculous. How dare you? Hang up on them right

away. I have a question from atphotoblair, who had a question last time. He loves to ask Larry Fedora questions. So I'm going to read it because I don't know what it means, but you're going to explain it to me. So many songs, which he's used for bumpers alone. Next time, ask

about the Wayne Newton snub. Is there a Wayne Newton snub? Like, please tell me that means something to you. I used to do this bit called The Waning Moments, and it was the last few minutes of the show where, what are you going to do? You can't really start a new topic. You can't, you know, so I would just kind of,

it was a summary of the day it was leftover stories it was called the waning moments and of course we played uh any music connected with wayne we played fountains of wayne i think was the band that's right and then for a long time we played wayne newton as our theme in and out just like because that's the joke i'm so clever moments wayne newton and then wayne newton was coming to the Fallsview, I think it was, and we tried to get him, and he refused to come on the show, and I was really upset about that. I got a question about Wayne Newton's voice.

Sure. So this is, I think it's 1963 or something like that. That could be. But listen to Wayne's voice for a second. Like, the way Newton you'd hear today is several octaves deeper. Am I right? Like, this is a completely different, it's much higher toned,

his voice back in the 60s. It really was. I mean, people used to make fun of him. He sounds like a woman. He did. I've been accused of the same thing, so I can relate. Yeah, that's the way he sounded.

Absolutely true. And it's interesting. Have you seen Wade Newton lately? No. There was footage of him when Jerry Lewis died. One of the people, you know, Vegas paid tribute. And wow.

He's got a lot of work. I believe it. I was always more of a Robert Goulet man. Really? Of course, because he appeared in I want to say The Naked Gun or something like that. So as a kid, I was like, and then I found out he's Canadian. So you get bonus points for that in my books. And I like Robert Goulet, but then

Will Ferrell's Robert Goulet kind of ruined Robert Goulet for me. Remember Will Ferrell's Robert Goulet kind of ruined Robert Goulet for me. Remember Will Ferrell's Robert Goulet? That's right. He did some great ones. I was thinking Norm MacDonald's Burt Reynolds. Oh, on The Jeopardy. Yeah, on The Jeopardy.

Yeah, it was great. Whenever you say Will Ferrell, I think of his Alex Trebek or whatever he did on that Jeopardy. Yes, Trebek was good. And then people he did started dying. He did Goulet. Goulet died. He did Harry Carey. Harry Carey died.

He did Janet Reno. Janet Reno died. It's yee. All right, real quick. I was watching. We used to get WGN on our Super. It came across. I saw it on TV.

And I was watching a Cubs game. This is like I was a teenager, I think. And I'm watching a Cubs game because they didn't have lights back then, so they're all afternoon games, these Wrigley Field Cubs game. This is like I was a teenager, I think. And I'm watching a Cubs game because they didn't have lights back then, so they're all afternoon games, these Wrigley Field Cubs games. And Harry Carey is calling it. And there's a runners on

second and third, I think. And the guy hits a single, but the ball hadn't hit the ground yet. And Harry Carey said, base hit, two runs score. He said it before the ball hit the grass. Okay. And it's a true story.

And I always wondered, like, was he ahead? Like was the video behind his voice? Or was he just like he's seen it so many times, he knows two runs are scoring on that Wrigley grass when that ball drops. But anyway, that's how he's remembered. Base hit, two runs, score. And then the ball hits the grass. So, all right.

That's my Harry Carey story. I won't do any more impressions. You're kicking out the jams, but last time you were here, you mentioned that you grabbed a bit of Shania. Yeah, yeah. You copped a field by accident. I did, and since the Taylor Swift controversy, I've changed the way I feel about that story because it never occurred to me, being so insensitive, that she may have felt that and felt that she was groped and didn't want to say anything.

Oh, she felt violated but embarrassed maybe? What if she's telling the story of, oh, Taylor Swift, I can relate. One time back in the 90s, this guy from Toronto, he grabbed my boob and I'm like, but it was an accident. And so I didn't believe Mueller. I didn't believe Mueller, the Taylor Swift guy. I didn't really believe his story, but mine

was an accident and I always, now I just feel like I should reach out. I don't know. Be careful how you phrase that, though. You don't want to reach out. We've done enough reaching there, Larry. I know there were several, I think. How many ads did you do at Kiss

with Shania Twain? Approximately. Boy, that's a great question. More than one. I don't know. I don't think this is the one where you got more of Shania than she bargained for, but I'm going to play one of the ads you described that you recorded. And this is, tell me, this is Dumas?

Tell me the people you're co-hosting with. Cliff Dumas. Cliff Dumas. And, oh my gosh, Jackie, I'm so sorry I'm blanking on your last name. That's okay. And Jackie. It'll come back to you. I'm going to play this ad.

Hi, Shania Twain here to tell you about my favorite morning show, Cliff, Jackie, and Larry F. on Kiss FM. Larry, what are you doing? Hi, Cliffania Twain here to tell you about my favorite morning show, Cliff, Jackie, and Larry F on Kiss FM. Larry, what are you doing? Hi, Cliff, Jackie. Where's Larry? He's my favorite. Larry. So, in the morning, always listen to Kiss FM 92.5. How'd I do, Larry F? Well, you got my voice just about right, but can you imitate you a little better?

Make the morning switch to Kiss FM 92.5.5 cliff jackie and larry f it's my favorite morning show in toronto so make it yours that's the one jackie donaldson by the way uh that's the exact one where i was behind a cardboard cutout of her doing her voice and they they didn't believe me yeah it's very visual i should point that out it's you get to go to youtube but it's very visual people assume it's your voice that you're point that out. You get to go to YouTube, but it's very visual. People assume it's your voice. You're pretending to be Shania behind a Shania cardboard cutout. Amazing acting, by the way.

I thought so. I don't know if you caught that in my voice. I did. And I heard, and you mentioned some disdain, that that's when you were being billed as Larry F. Yeah.

Is that because Fedorik is too ethnic? It's Ukrainian, right? Yeah, no. No? It's not Ukrainian. It is Ukrainian. Sorry, sorry. No was the too ethnic. I's Ukrainian, right? Yeah, no. No? I'm just kidding. It's not Ukrainian. It is Ukrainian. Sorry, sorry. No was the too ethnic.

I don't think so. I think that was fine. I think what the problem was they needed a snappy morning show name. And my general manager's husband was named Larry. And we had an intercom system. You could go over

the speakers of the hallways and phone call for Sharon. It's Larry. Which Larry? Larry F. Larry, your husband? Larry F. And Larry F. became this thing that I was in the halls. So then when it was time to make the morning show,

they went, he's Larry F. And that was just, it stuck. That's the actual story. Okay. I'm glad it wasn't because Fedorik was too ethnic. Because you know what I always say, the Ukraine is not weak. That's right. Ukraine is not weak. And speaking of Shania, and you mentioned, she is doing a lot of press right now because a new album comes out in September.

Yeah, she's playing the Grey Cup. She's playing the Grey Cup. Okay, and she's doing a lot of stuff because she's promoting this album. So I'm going to play the latest, I believe this is the new single of the new album and this uh this song is called life's about to get good so we're kicking out the jams this is not one of your jams but let's hear some new shania and then i'll play a little old shania I wasn't just broken I was shattered

I trusted you so much You're all that mattered You know all that loved me And I sang like a sad bird I couldn't move on And I think you were flattered Oh, lots about joy Lots about pain

I'm not sure there's a station in Toronto that will actually play this, but that's the new Shania Twain. I'm not sure there's a station in Toronto that will actually play this, but that's the new Shania Twain. I mean, I don't think Chum FM or CHFI would play this. I don't know. Sounds close. Sounds close.

Maybe they would. It's poppy, right? I just want to hear some chorus of the new Shania. I think we need some Shania. I'm glad she's back. Yeah. We need Shania, right? Absolutely.

Absolutely. Well, come on. One of the great voices. And you got the second bass with her, so you have to... No, come on now. I'm just kidding. I may have offended her totally. And I'm going to play my favorite Shania, but let's hear this one.

Let's go, girls. And this is a song you would have played at Kiss several times an hour. Is that correct? Yes, many times. I'm feeling all right. Gonna let it all hang out. times an hour. Is that correct? Yes, many times. And this is a rare song with two exclamation marks

in the title. Because it's man! I feel like a woman! Very rare. Everybody knows this tune. I'll bring it down. That's your Shania update for 2017. She's back, baby.

Yeah, I'm glad to hear it. She used to do, I don't know about that song, but she used to do a couple of mixes with her husband who was... Mutt Lang. Mutt Lang. They used to do a couple of mixes, one for pop radio, one for country radio. Oh. So, you know, I don't want to be cliche,

but the country mix of the song would maybe have a little more pedal guitar in it or something. And she'd put a little twang in her twang. So the song would be on several charts, but it'd have to be a slightly different version. I do remember that she was the crossover queen. You mentioned Taylor Swift, and it's similar that she

crossed over, but then country disowned her. But Shania seemed to keep her... She could still be played on country and on your top 40 station at the same time. Yeah, without being... Disowned by either side. Yeah, by Nashville, which is really a closed community in some ways.

We call it Smashville now. Right. Now, great. Now, normally at this point, I would urge everybody to contribute at patreon.com slash Toronto Mike and give what you can. But for the next several episodes, I will ask you instead to pledge a sponsor, I suppose, my Terry Fox run. So on September 17th, I am running, I think it's my 11th year in a row, but I'm doing the Terry Fox run at High Park.

And people can link to my page from torontomike.com. At the very top, there's a very clear link for Terry Fox Run. And donate there, and you'll get a PDF from the Terry Fox Foundation that you can use for your tax purposes. It's something you don't get when you sponsor patreon.com slash torontomike. So yeah, you can take your money and give it to the Terry Fox Foundation. Last time you were here, way back when,

in early August, Larry, you got yourself a six-pack of Great Lakes beer. Did you enjoy it? I did very much. Very much. Do you want another one? Yes.

Please. That was a trick question. So there you go. Have another six-pack. Thank you. And now I know why you're coming back so frequently. Why wouldn't you? It's not my beer.

Has anybody ever suggested that the idea of the six-pack would be to consume them during the 60-minute conversation? Yeah, Mike Richards. You ever work with Mike Richards? A little bit, yeah. Was he at Kiss? I can't remember where. He's been everywhere.

But Mike Richards cracked them open at like 9 a.m. Nice. And then he reminded me that he's a morning man. At the time, he was a morning man. So his 9 a.m. would be like a regular person's 2 p.m. Sure. So it's not like if I crack one open. That was my excuse when I did mornings.

That's right. Larry F. In fact, you should just know, you're welcome to drink up if you want to enjoy the jams more. Nothing's better. You're in my basement now. We're about to play your 10 favorite songs, and you're going to share stories about them. You crack open a Great Lakes beer, that's a perfect afternoon. By the way, I just saw a YouTube video that said you should always pour your beer into a pint glass because something about the, I don't want to use the wrong phrase, but the carbon dioxide or something gets released.

And that gets rid of the bloated, gaseous kind of feeling you might get if you drink. So more than ever, you need another pint glass from Brian Gerstein. Right. So that is for, so yeah, break up those carbon, the carbon or whatever, dioxide, whatever is going on. I can't drink out of a can or a bottle. You know,

unless. That must be why, because you probably. I like having a glass of beer. And it looks prettier when you can. It does. See it in the glass. I have a new message from Brian Gerstein

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Real estate is a serious business. Sure, especially now. You're right. So call Brian, everybody. That's 416-873-0292. Get some expertise and a pint glass and a six-pack while you're at it. That's a pretty good combo there. Larry F. No, I'm not doing that. Larry Fedorek,

are you ready to kick out the jam? I'm ready. I've been ready for weeks. Wouldn't it be nice if we were older Then we wouldn't have to wait so long And wouldn't it be nice to live together In the kind of world where we belong No one's gonna make it that much better When we can say goodnight and stay together Wouldn't it be nice if we could wake up in the morning when the day is new

And after having spent the day together Hold each other close the whole night through Beach Boys, Wouldn't It Be Nice? Oh, man. It doesn't get better than this. People say in my room, God only knows. Everybody knows the Pet Sounds story, inspiring Sergeant Peppers, perhaps, and all that stuff.

To me, this is the Beach Boys song. It's a great love song. That's why it's been used in so many movies. It's first love. I mean, that's why it's been used in so many movies it's it's first love it's i mean that's what it is for me uh teenage years when you meet that girl in high school where it's like this is it this is what love is we're gonna get married we're gonna spend the rest of our lives together this is you know it's high school like how how many of those work i know they do i know sometimes somebody marries their high school sweetheart, but mostly they don't. But it's just like your first real experience of love.

And I think Brian Wilson, my club, the people who wrote it just captured that so well. And this song just means that to me. And it means Judy also. It means Judy. I named her Judy. Judy. So the story on Judy was, so we go together in high school a couple years,

and her family moves away. This is Holy Cross High School in Saskatoon. And her family leaves, and we were kind of breaking up anyway, and it was all right, so whatever. Fast forward to a bank in Toronto, like 35 years later. You think you know where this is going. Not exactly. I get to the bank and the teller leaves and she says,

just come up, sir, I'm just going to be a second. So her back is to me. And so I'm at the bank counter and her back's to me, she's like 10 feet away, and she turns around and walks up to me and, how can I help you? And it's her.

It's not her, her. It's her 35 years ago. It is her twin from when we dated in high school. So this woman is standing in front of me. She's maybe 20 years old. She looks like she's 16, 17. It's the hair is perfect. Even the hair clips, Mike.

Everything. And I'm like, so she's like can I help you? and I'm like is your mother named Judy? and she goes no because you remind me and then I'm trying to explain this

her hand is under the counter because she's pushing the alarm I expect any second now and it was stunning that this woman and I finally kind of spit something out of, you remind me of someone, you look just like someone I used to know. When I used to know them,

they looked at the guy, ramble, did my bank thing, got the hell out of there, never saw her again. Wow. And it was like, this memory is so fresh in my mind, and I think I went home that day and put on

Wouldn't It Be Nice, because I just had to go back there. And it's always been a great song. I was holding out hope that her mom's name was Judy. No, I've since connected with her a little bit on social media and just remember the day, and that was it. We don't currently... Well, you don't want to revisit that, because she is 35 years older.

But in your mind, she's frozen, right? She's frozen in time. That's it. I know. That's it. And when I saw this twin, so 35 years later, how do you look exactly like her?

Everything. Wow. It was bizarre. I don't know. Everything for a reason. What was that? What is that in my life? But anyway.

And then you go home and you listen to Wouldn't It Be Nice? Because it's a great song. Now, Pet Sounds, correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first song on Pet Sounds, right?

I believe it's the first one. Wouldn't It Be Nice? Yeah. And you're right. A lot of the, correct me if I'm wrong, this is the first song on Pet Sounds, right? Isn't it open with Wouldn't It Be Nice? And you're right. A lot of the press goes to obvious songs, but that God Only Knows is a song. It's just, well, I mean, that Pet Sounds, that sound, I guess, at the time, and I only know this from reading the history books, but at the time,

in America, anyways, it wasn't particularly successful, right? This wasn't a very well-regarded top-selling album, but then as time, like we noticed with other albums, like as time progresses people realize, well this was one of the great albums. It really was. It really was the most amazing album and I like I said at the beginning, all these other songs get the bigger press and they're wonderful songs, believe me. You could pick any one of them as your favorite of all time. But the Wouldn't It Be Nice.

And then years later, playing it on the radio as a disc jockey, you had to hit the drum. You couldn't hit vocal. It wasn't as cool. You had to hit the opening drum. Boom. Wouldn't it, you know. Oh, that's beautiful.

And as you mentioned, there is no, probably there is no Sgt. Pepper without Pet Sounds. And as you mentioned, there is no, probably there is no Sergeant Pepper without Pet Sounds. So on that note, let's hear your second jam. The rain comes, they run and hide their heads. They might as well be dead. If the rain comes, if the rain comes.

When the sun shines, they slip into the shade. When the sun shines, they slip around on me. The Beatles, Rain. I remember where I was when I first heard this song. I had a portable radio, and I was on the steps of the Gem Theater, our movie house in our little town in Saskatchewan, where I eventually ended up working. And that's where you'd go.

One of the places to hang out downtown was the steps of the movie theater, whether the movie theater was open or closed. It was just a good hangout spot. And this song came on. I'd never heard anything like it. And I was already a Beatle fan as a kid. But this song in years gone by, it's become my favorite song because it's got everything.

And I think it's underrated in Beatle's history because immediately, we just had the anniversary of Sgt. Pepper's, right? It was 40, 50, 50. So you go anniversary of Sgt. Pepper's, right? It was 40, 50, 50. So you go previous to Sgt. Pepper, Beatle historians will say, well, you know, there was Revolver. Revolver was the prequel.

They were already starting to get weird, and even Rubber Soul before that. A few months before Revolver, they released Paperback Rider and the best B-side the Beatles ever recorded, which is Rain. And those songs were not on the album but recorded at the same session. So it's got a great lyric. Nobody's in love.

Nobody's holding hands. Nobody's yeah, yeah, yeah. Great Lennon lead vocal. Great McCartney bass line. Great George guitar. One of the best drumming performances by Ringo. It's got backwards masking. It's got...

It's... It's before everything, is this song, in my opinion. It was sort of, if you will, the new Beatles of the day. And you're right. Best B-side. It's hard to believe. So that never appeared on a proper Beatles album. That was just the B-side to Paperback Raiders.

Yeah, and they call it the best B-side ever. And it did chart, I think. People were playing everything Beatles, and I think it went to maybe number two on Billboard or something like that. But it was B-side. Whatever the rules were.

B-side. People are like, why does B-side... You know, it's one of those terms that no longer means anything to people. That's true. It's like no longer means anything to people. That's true. But it's like side two of Abbey Road. What does that mean? But nevertheless, B-side and the stupid rules of the day is they released a single and there was a flip side and you never played it.

And you'd have to break the rules to flip a song over and play the B-side. But people did occasionally, and thank goodness they did. Because Rain is just one of the great, great Beatles songs, and horribly underrated when people are playing Yesterday, or Sgt. Pepper's, or Abbey Road, and they forget about that song. Here's a little teaser for listeners. That is

not the last song, the last jam on your list that has to do with Rain. That's a little teaser. There's another tune on your list that has to do with rain. Yeah, go ahead. I'm putting together, and I'm sure everybody has said this, coming up with 10.

I could come up with 10,000. But 10 is so difficult. When I finally said, okay, these are the 10, I realized there's this whole thing about dreams and dreams unfulfilled. What kind of person am I?

This is what I'm learning. What do I listen to? Well, listen, sometimes when you have your 10 there, it says a lot about you and it causes you to look inward. And a lot of times it's like sort of like therapy in a sense, like where you start to think of why this and, you know, thoughts of Judy, et cetera, the steps of the gem or whatnot.

Was that Saskatoon or was that another Saskatchewan city? That was a small town before we moved to Saskatoon called Waka, Saskatchewan. W-A-K-A-W. It's a palindrome. It's Cree for Crooked Lake. This is things you learned in school. And it was about 1,000 people then.

Today it's about 1 thousand people then. Today, it's about a thousand people. It's a farming community. It's a great town. It's near a lake. I mean, it's, I called it

Stand By Me without the dead body. That's my, that was my youth and it was fantastic. And you were the Kether Sutherland character with the toothpick

in the mouth. No, no, no. I was the, I was the writer. All right. I like to think of myself as the writer. Richard Drey? No, no, no. I was the writer. I like to think of myself as the writer. Richard Dreyfuss, we'll call him. I can't remember. Will Whedon? Yeah, Will Whedon. Future Star Trek star.

By the way, my first wife is from Saskatoon. Oh, nice. Just throwing that out there. Now, let's listen to your third jam. Now, I told you so, you ought to know. you so you ought to know

It takes some time for a feeling to grow You're so close now I can't let you go And I can't let you go And I can't let go

With you I'm not shy To show the way I feel With you I'm not shy My secrets to reveal For you are a magnet And I am a steel Magnet and steel, Walter Egan. Yeah.

Again, not the biggest hit ever, but there's something about this song I always loved, just the rhythm of it. And the fact that the background vocals advance the story. It's not all him singing the lead and the background vocals just accent. They actually have lines that advance the story, which I love. And I find out later, a song about Stevie Nicks. Like how many people have written love songs to her?

There are many. Yes. And how many people, guys, just fans, were gaga over Stevie Nicks over the years? And this was a guy who I think had a relationship with her, apparently, Walter Egan, but wrote a song for her. And a lot of people remember this song from Boogie Nights. I was going to say that my generation knows this song from Boogie Nights.

But it was before that. And my other memory of this song and why I love it, I guess, is at CFTR, the studio was on the 11th floor at Victoria and Adelaide, just off Yonge, and we were one of the bigger buildings at the time, and the studio windows on the corner looked east and north. And if you're doing evenings or late nights,

which I did, something about this song that I could just crank up and sit there and stare out over the city at night in Toronto, it just, the song felt like Toronto to me. I don't know why. So I just loved when the song would come up in the rotation,

because I would just crank it and look out over the lights, and it just felt like a Toronto song. I don't know. Riddle me this. Is there another Walter Egan song that ever got airplay? I can't name another one. Yeah.

There was. There was. And I won't come up with it to save my life. Sorry. There was. So this is not a one hit wonder. Pretty much so. Okay.

Yeah. Very nice, you know. Pretty much, though. Very nice. Magnet and Steel. I think of Boogie Nights because that's where I first heard it. By the way, this won't be the last Paul Thomas Anderson reference I'll make. Look at all these teasers.

This is the new thing I'm going to start doing. Teasing future jams here. But there's another Paul Thomas Anderson movie I'm going to reference. I should say, too, about when I saw this, or when the song came up on Boogie Nights, I was like, oh my God, somebody else loves this song as much as I do.

Some director, somebody picked this. And that director, his soundtracks are really important. He's sort of a Tarantino kind of guy where when Tarantino puts a song in a soundtrack, so many great tunes from the 60s and 70s I heard for the first time on Tarantino puts a song in a soundtrack, so many great tunes from the 60s and 70s I heard for the first time on Tarantino soundtracks. But it's almost like the songs matter for Paul Thomas Anderson movies

like they matter for a Tarantino movie. When they're playing Spill the Wine, Eric Burden and War, and when they dive in the pool and then you hear the song from under the pool, under the water. That's a great example. And then they come up again and it's crisp.

I love that. That was a great effect. Great movie, man. Yeah. I'm going to revisit. See, my 15-year-old and I, well, all of us, but mainly for him,

were revisiting like old movies I loved. We did Five Easy Pieces and, you know, Psycho. And we just, these great classics. We did Jaws. He had never seen Jaws. We just did The Godfathers,

one and two. We're not going to do three if that's okay with you. Yeah, no, good, good, good. Maybe on his own one day if he wants, but I'm not sitting through that again. I saw it once. It's funny. It got nominated for Best Picture.

Do you know Godfather 3? It did? Yeah. Wow. It's one of the five nominees that year, but people look back at it, just such a disappointment, but nominated for Best Picture,

which tells you how high the bar was. I didn't realize that. Wow. Yeah. That's a fun fact. I always say these fun facts, and then right after the episode, I'm on Google. I. Yeah, that's a fun fact. I always say these fun facts. And then right after the episode, I'm on Google.

I hope I'm right about my fun fact. So far, I've been right. I've been right. Last episode of Colin DeMello, I think I mentioned that Girls Just Want to Have Fun is a cover and I was correct about that. That's Cyndi Lauper's first big hit

was a cover song. A lot of people think that Cyndi Lauper wrote that. Yeah, I did. So there, fun fact. I'm going to give more. Don't worry. All right. But let's kick out another jam. As I walk through this wicked world

Searching for light in the darkness of insanity I ask myself, is all hope lost? Is there only pain and hatred and misery? And each time I feel like there's some sign, there's one thing I want to know. What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding? Oh, what's so funny about peace, love, and understanding? That's the greatest singer named Elvis ever, Elvis Costello. Yes, I agree. Yes, sir.

What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding? Although I believe the proper title is Peace, Love, and Understanding, but they added that first part in parentheses. What's so funny about Peace, Love and Understanding? Although I believe the proper title is Peace, Love and Understanding, but they added that first part in parentheses. What's so funny? Yeah. Yeah. And if you heard that song for the first time today, you said, oh, somebody's writing a song about the Trump presidency. Because it's exactly it's been relevant. It was relevant when Nick Lowe wrote it. And it's funny because Elvis Costello basically saved my life so many times, as music in general does. And it was

a go-to guy. We've got a couple others that I have here that are go-to artists for me. When I don't know what to listen to, it's just, well, and Elvis was just the guy to go to. And I oddly picked a song he didn't write. Nick Lowe wrote Peace, Love, and Understanding, but still. It was just such a great song, such

great delivery. A funny little misheard lyric thing back in the day. I never understood what, every time I feel like this inside. And I didn't, this inside, I was like is that like a genocide or a suicide? What's a this inside?

And every time I feel like this inside. Oh, right. Do you want to know what that's called? That's called a mondegreen. It is, yes. From the song where... I read this, I can't remember.

Yeah, I can't remember either, with Origin. But last time, I think it was with Norm Wilner, he was trying to come up with... Yeah, mondegreen is the word I was struggling for. Like, there's a bathroom on the right. There's a Mondegreen. But Elvis Costello, I got to say, I love listening to Elvis Costello, too.

And I love the story of his Saturday Night Live appearance. It was radio, radio he wanted to play. And whoever owned NBC or whatever also owned radio stations or something. Sure. It was a shot at media. It was this whole, and so you couldn't play it on broadcast

television, so he finally said okay, went into his song that he agreed to play, shut it down, and then went into radio, radio. And then he was like banned for decades, right? Oh, I know. He's on the shit list. That's great, because I always think of, in this song, in a future episode, this song

will have more relevancy. So there's a teaser for a future episode. Wow. I think four from now. But Rolling Stones, Let's Spend the Night Together. Ed Sullivan, I think he was on Ed Sullivan. Ed Sullivan didn't want him to say, let's spend the night together. Yeah.

And he changed it to, let's spend some time together. Time together, yeah. Whereas Jim Morrison was told, light my fire, baby couldn't get much higher. But he did it anyway, and then he got banned. This is from Ed Sullivan. There you go. I would love to do an episode

on... I think there was a thing too with John Denver. Sunshine on my shoulders always makes me high. No, nothing can make you high, not even sunshine. Can't say that. Come on. That is hilarious.

Right. Yeah. Oh, don't build your own plane if you're going to fly. You can fly. Get your pilot's license, but don't build your own plane. Let someone else build it.

Somebody should build your plane. And test it. Experts. Make sure it's got gasoline. Your former morning show co-host, humble Howard Glassman, once flew me over Niagara Falls in his little Cessna,

which he doesn't own anymore because he lost all his money in the great divorce. Is there anything that man can't do? Once he puts his mind to something. He's the best golfer, funny stand-up radio host, whatever, flies a plane. Stop it.

Stop making us all look bad, Howard. Elvis, thank you for the Elvis Costello. That was fantastic. And here's another Larry Fedorik jam. I'm a worried man with a worried mind No one in front of me and nothing behind There's a woman on my lap and she's drinking champagne Got white skin, got assassin's eyes I'm looking up into the sapphire-tinted skies

I'm well-dressed, waiting on the last train Standing on the gallows with my head in the news Any minute now I'm expecting all hell To break loose People are crazy And talks are strange I'm locked in tight

I'm out of range I used to care but Things have changed Things have changed. Things have changed. Bob Zimmerman, also known as Bob Dylan. How could I not include a Bob Dylan?

My hero Bob Dylan as a songwriter. Not that I'm aspiring, I'm just like what an amazing career. That song won an Academy Award. Most recently, I think he got, what's that little thing, that Nobel Prize. Like, for literature, of all things. And as many people, I may have fallen off Dylan when he was in his, you can't understand Dylan phase.

And I saw him then at Kingswood Music Theater. There's a throwback. That was, I think, G.E. Smith was his guitar player from SNL. Right. And I'm like, this is great. I'm finally going to see Dylan in person. Oh, my gosh. I'm a little kid somewhere in a farmhouse in Saskatchewan

listening to my little radio with Bob Dylan blowing my mind. I'm going to be right there. I've I got good seats and his back was to the audience and he couldn't that was that phase I was so disappointed I was off Dylan and then a couple albums started to come out in the 2000s they were actually pretty good and then he did this which may have been even 99 I'm not sure but he did this song and it was in the movie and it got the Academy Award and I was like what a great

not a final chapter, but what a great chapter of this man who wrote these great songs and raised consciousness on so many levels and then is singing to me I used to care, but times have changed and I'm like, yeah, that's that's aging, that's kind of and not that he doesn't care,

but that was the lament, right? So that song spoke to me in that way. And I rediscovered Dylan again. The movie is great as well, Wonder Boys. So I highly recommend Wonder Boys. Who's the guy who played Spider-Man? Why am I forgetting his name? Oh, I always used to, Tobey Maguire.

Tobey Maguire. Toby McGuire. And, of course, Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas. Fantastic. I really, really enjoyed Wonder Boys. And you're right. This song won, speaking of Academy Awards, it won an Academy Award. And I like your story about, you know, you saw Bob Dylan and he had his back turned to you and was mumbling.

Because people, I've never seen Dylan live, but it's very hit and miss, I'm told. It's like gambling. You don't know which Dylan you're going to get. The engaged Dylan that you can understand or the mumble, I don't give a shit Dylan. And I've since kind of come to a spot for me in my creative relationship with Dylan's music is that he's allowed. That's it. He's earned it. He's earned the right.

Yeah. You're allowed to do whatever you want up there. I may not pay $300 to go sit in your show, but you're allowed to do whatever you want. Spend that money on McCartney because I'm told full value. Like he gives you full value. I've seen McCartney. Yeah.

I've decided now I'm going to have to break the bank and do that because it's one of those things where if you miss it, you miss it. You know, you got to do that.

Interesting to me that you're a lifelong Dylan fan and you chose such a recent song by Bob Dylan with that catalog he has from the 60s.

Because it was anything from, well, of course, I know it was a big hit but like erotic stone uh subterranean homesick blues i mean just so many things so many and dylan by the way writes one one of the great love songs of all time he can write a love song like nobody's business which is kind of strange for you might think uh and his songs get covered all the time and you

go by it's a great song who did that that? That's actually Dylan wrote that. I'm like, wow. So there's so many to choose from. But just this one because this one made me love Dylan all over again. And go back to Rainy Day Women and all of that. And even the National Skyline. Well, I was going to say, we talked about your rain theme, which is coming up soon. If you had picked Rainy Day Woman, what would that have said about you? I don't know. And by the way,

that's your first jam that exceeded four minutes in length. You've had, I've had, my buddy, speaking of Elvis's, Elvis, my buddy,

kicks out the jams. Every song is like one of those epic anthem songs that's like eight or nine minutes. Like the shortest song is Bohemian Rhapsody. But you've got these like, the Beach Boys was like,

I don't know, two and a half minutes. Rain is under three minutes. Magnet and Steel is under four minutes. Top 40 radio is what I grew up with. Listening, when I was a kid, listening to still one of the great names of all time, Jerry Lucky.

It was the disc jockey at night, Jerry Lucky. And I found out his name was like Luka Winski or something, whatever it was, but it was Jerry Lucky on the air. And he would play all these great songs. And I loved so-called top 40 radio and pop radio. So a lot of songs were two and a half, three minutes.

That was it. I just heard... So Trainspotting got a sequel. I think it's come and gone, actually. But they were talking about the soundtrack. The Trainspotting, the first one, that soundtrack, speaking of important soundtracks, to me, that's a good example of the soundtrack matters

on train spotting, and it's great. But this person, they were talking about how they chose the songs for train spotting, too, and they have a Blondie song in there, Dreaming, I believe, from Blondie, and they play Blondie, and they were explaining basically why that's the perfect pop song.

And part of the perfect pop song is that three and a half minutes in length. Like, it's, you know, if you're just perfect length for kind of a pop song, and there's a reason the word pop is for popular, and people love it. So in Trainspotting 2, you'll hear Blondie's Dreaming, because it's, in this person's opinion, whose name I can't remember, it's the perfect pop song. Now let's listen to another jam. I want love to roll me over slowly

Stick a knife inside me and twist it all around I want love to grab my fingers gently Slam them in a doorway, put my face into the ground I want love to murder my own mother and take her off to somewhere like hell or up above. And I want love to change my friends to enemies, change my friends to enemies, show me how it's all my fault.

I won't let love disrupt, corrupt, or interrupt me. Love Interruption, Jack White. One of my favorite songs of all time. Really? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Cool. Good.

Yeah, I don't want to speak over them here, but please, it's your show. How is this a love song? But it is, man. It's so, that's what struck me. And I think at the time when this was coming out or I got this album, it was, probably my heart was torn out of my chest and crumpled up and being stomped on by somebody. And I realized, yeah,

that these ugly images, these almost violent, I'm not saying violence in a relationship, please understand. I'm just saying the violent feel of a love affair, whether it's new or it's ended or it's during, whatever it is, and he's just captured, you know. And the simplicity of the song, of course,

instrumentally and everything, and Jack White, I just kind of, really not into white stripes, raconteurs a little bit, but I saw this movie, I don't know if you've ever seen it, called Mike It Loud? Absolutely, yeah. Okay, so great documentary with Jack White and The Edge from U2 and Jimmy Page. And it's about the guitar.

It's about the love affair musicians have with a guitar, guitars, and these three guys. And I started to get into Jack White because of that movie. I was aware of him, but not really into him. So when I started to get into him, then boom, this comes out, and this song is on the album, and I'm like, wow. I'm so glad that through just watching that

movie, that I got into Jack White, because that's a great song. I would have missed it. I might have missed it. I'm so glad you did Better Late Than Ever, I always say, on these things. And the thing is, I've done that with bands where, when bands or artists were successful for, let always say, on these things. And the thing is, I've done that with bands where, when bands or artists were successful for, let's say, even a decade,

and I either didn't care or... Or sometimes they're too big. I've had this, like Game of Thrones, I'm having this experience. In fact, everything everywhere is Game of Thrones. It feels so big, I can't go there. It's hard to explain. I need to let this, I need it to, some time and let it calm down, and then I'll dive in.

Totally get you. I was like that with Steely Dan. For years, Steely Dan was like nothing to me. I had played him on the radio, great. And then, like, I don't know, 2000, I got into Steely Dan. But the great thing about that is, their entire catalog is new to me.

So now I have a new artist that happens to have been around for 30, 40 years. It's like somebody will discover the Kick Out the Jam series with this episode. Somebody will discover it, and then they'll look back and say, oh my gosh, all these other people came in and kicked out the jams. I can do that now. Yeah, it's new to you. It's just waiting for you. So that was Jack White for me, too.

And then I had to get into a whole bunch of Jack White. And I prefer the solo stuff, so-called. Well, yeah, even on the Cold Mountain soundtrack, I guess you don't. So Jack White, I think he's a musical genius. The White Stripes, fantastic. From the first chord, Fell in Love of a Girl, which is the first time. And then you go back and you realize an album before that, and you do the whole White Stripes thing, and you're right, the Rat Contours. And you got, this is his first solo album, I believe.

And Love Interruption was, I don't know if it's the first single or not, but fantastic. And a great video even to it. Always. It was so, going back to It Might Get Loud, when in this documentary, if people haven't seen it, I recommend it. It kind of follows these guys individually

and they talk about guitar. And there's some history stuff about how Led Zeppelin formed whatever, whatever and then at the end it's the three of them in a kind of a warehouse setting on a couch and they're talking and they're talking and Jimmy Page

and this is Jack White and the Edge this isn't just two kids out of school and they're looking and Jimmy Page picks up the guitar and goes and their jaws drop like they're in the presence of God. For that seat alone, you should

watch that movie. It's so cool. I know when I saw it, it was on Netflix. I don't know if it's still there. I think it might be. Great documentary. I'm glad you brought it up. Glad you put on a Jack White song because fantastic. Well, I'm glad you liked that one. Love it. Another jam. I can't sleep tonight

Everybody's saying everything's alright Still I can't close my eyes I'm seeing the tunnel at the end of all these lights So the days Where have you gone? I get the strangest feeling You belong Why does it always rain on me? Is it because I lied when I was seventeen?

Why does it always rain on me? Even when the sun is shining I can't avoid the light blue I can't stand myself Why does it always rain on me? Travis. Yeah. I'm filled up by invisible man

Because something I'd done when I was 17 That's what intrigued me about this song, was this whole, I'm in control of my fate, destiny, and life, which is a whole philosophy, by the way, these days, about how there is no automatic afterlife. You have to build your afterlife in the current, by the life you live.

Then you may get an afterlife if you actually which gets into now defending your life with albert brooks a great but anyway so i i digress but but that's the line that sort of sold me on this song was uh oh you know i if i had been a better person i would would have this today. Or, you know, why does it always rain on me? Because I lied when I was 17. And then I just, this was another example of, who is this band? Travis? They're not new?

They've been around since the 90s? Oh my gosh! So, boom, buy all their CDs and everything and get into the whole band like massive. They're from Scotland. They are a trio. Well, no, well, Build is a trio, but I believe there were four. This is the second in your Rain series. Yeah, I guess so, yeah.

So very, and you're right, and this is a beautiful song. It's a great track. And I always, always love this song, actually, but I was wondering about this rain theme again so i i just wonder uh larry is there um there's a comfort i find there's a there's a comfort in being sad this is a nirvana lyric that i always like there's a comfort in being sad and there's something about the cathartic nature of rain, like just kind of looking inward while the rain falls. And there's something there you want to share.

Is there something that I want to share? Yeah. Well, I guess it could be a lot of things. I was hit by lightning when I was a kid. Is that right? Yeah, actually, it wasn't a direct hit. I was sitting in my grandma's house out on the farm, and I was tardy with my meals. So my dad and my grandmother insisted I finish my food.

Don't you finish that. Kids are starving. So I'm sitting at the table by the window, and it's pouring rain, and there's a lightning flash. And there's a spark off the end of my fork. I was told this later. A big spark off the end of my metal fork and I passed out. I fell off the chair. My dad caught me and set it against the floor.

So maybe, I don't know. You'd think I'd fear rain. But I actually, rain is great. I love it. If I don't have to drive in it, I just love when it rains and I love the melancholy. For some people, melancholy is your friend.

You don't mind it. You don't fear it. You don't fear sadness. It's just part of the great range of human emotion. And rain helps that. Rain kind of, it's, I don't know. I was out the other day at a patio and we were under umbrellas and it just poured rain for about 15 minutes.

And I was like, this is the best time ever. Because I can just watch it. I'm with you. I just spent several nights sleeping in a tent at a provincial park with my oldest. And the best sleep or just feeling is when you're under that tent and it's raining. The sound of the rain on the tent.

And I had the same thought. My younger son, who's three, we camped in the backyard. Do you remember that big lightning flash that we had a few weeks ago? There was a night where it was the loudest thunder I've ever heard in my life. And I don't know if it's because I was outside,

although my wife, who was sleeping inside, said it was the loudest she had ever heard. And it lasted like eight or nine seconds. It was this huge flash of thunder and lightning we got in a big rainstorm. And I was sleeping outside. The three-year-old, by the way, slept through it. But just neither here nor there,

except to say it rained a lot that night. And it just was amazing. Yeah, it is just amazing. And I remember, too, sitting one Sunday afternoon watching an old black-and-white movie, and in the movie, it was raining. And it was a dialogue-filled scene. People were inside,

and it was raining outside in their scene. And at the same time, it was raining outside of my apartment. And the combination of the two was the best ever. And it's never happened again. Never have I actually been sitting in a movie where it's raining in the scene and it's raining outside. I mean, you'd think

that would happen. You'd have to make it happen. Oh, it's raining? Let me put on this movie. This rain movie, yeah. And it was just the coolest thing. So, yeah. Was there any after effect to being almost, whatever, almost struck by lightning or whatever happened? Did you have anything

you just kind of almost passed out or you passed out, your dad caught you and then... Yeah, they made me drink water because I was in shock, they said. So you don't see the future or anything? I don't. Nothing like that? No superpowers?

I don't have that, but any time you say or you miss something where it's so obvious or you're quirky for some reason, people go, oh, yeah, well, you're hit by lightning. That explains everything, right? So it's just a funny excuse. It's really, I don't think there was any effects. You just, this conversation has uncovered a memory.

When I was very young, I would be sent to my, in the summer, I'd be sent to my grandmother's house, my grandparents' house in Guilford, Ontario, which is like, there's Alliston is on one side of 89 and then Guilford's on the other side, like somewhere south of Barrie. But okay, I'm in Guilford and it is a farmhouse

and there's like an acre and it's farm and it's beside a train tracks. And whenever it would be like a thunder and lightning, my grandmother would take out the rosary and start doing these very loud prayer things. And I honestly traumatized me. Like I can, I mean, it's all coming back now. And the other thing was, I remember she said, don't use the phone.

Don't use the phone. Because I think maybe this was a big thing back then. I don't know if it happened to anybody. But you could be struck by lightning through the phone. Yes. Yeah, I got that same instruction. So now, think about it. So you're young.

I don't know. Let's say I'm like six years old, okay? I'm up north with grandma and grandpa. This loud rosary thing with the whole fear that lightning's going to come

through the phone lines and get me, scared the shit out of me. I can imagine. Yeah. And I mean, did she rock back and forth? Yeah,

there was a whole thing. The beads? Yes, yes, yes. She rocked back and forth. And I still remember, the other thing, while I'm talking about my late grandma, she lived to be 98 years old, by, yes. She walked back and forth. And I still remember, the other thing, while I'm talking about my late grandmother, she

lived to be 98 years old, by the way. She had a very long life. But she, real quick, my grandmother, when somebody would sneeze, you know how people

say, bless you? My grandmother would say, bless you and save you from the fires of hell. Oh, my. And to this day, like, it's funny, I was watching the first episode of a new show with Jessica Beale called The Sinner. And they go to a flashback of her childhood and there's a bunch

of crucifixes and religion stuff. And just any ounce of Catholicism or whatever. And I'm like, I'm out. I can't deal. I'm so traumatized by it. But you somehow made it. You seem a relatively composed individual. You have no idea. I can hold it together for this kick out't know me. I'm so traumatized by it. But you somehow made it. You seem a relatively composed individual. You have no idea. I can hold it together for this kick out of the jams and then I'm rocking in the corner

hoping for rain. Okay. See what these songs have done? I'm sorry for the rain songs. I love the rain songs. Okay. Love it. And I love it when I'm camping

and it's raining. But it's got to stop raining in the daytime because there's hikes and swimming to do. Let's hear another jam he's a serious mister Shake his hand and he'll twist your arm

With Monopoly money We'll be buying the funny farm so i'll do flips and get paid in chips from a diamond as big as the risk Calling It Quits by Amy Mann. Again, could have picked any Amy Mann song. I love them all. This is incredible. This is from a CD called Bachelor No. 2, which all other subsequent Amy Mann CDs and albums are judged against.

It's like, do you like her new album? I love it. It's not quite Bachelor No No. 2 but it's so good you know or it's a little bit better than Batch No. 2 or I prefer it slightly to Batch No. 2 but then you play it solidly like I do when I get a new Amy Mann and I play

it all solidly for like two months and then I go I think I feel like Batch No. 2 again and I go back to Batch No. 2 which has just got so many great songs on it God I love her I just love her Oh we talked about boogie nights by paul thomas anderson the other movie i got a visit revisit with my son is magnolia and amy man's all over magnolia you want to know the story of this of course because this is how i got an amy man because of magnolia this is why you're here yeah because, because Magnolia, and she's pretty much,

except for a couple of super tramps, she's pretty much that soundtrack. There's a scene in a car I remember with, I remember that song, I can't remember the song now, but there was a popular pop song that was not Amy Mann, but you're right, there's three.

One, One is the Loneliest. One is all over this thing. Well, you tell the story, I'm sorry, but there's three songs that are prominent in the movie. She does a version of One is the Loneliest Number That You'll Ever Do, which people remember Three Dog Night, but what people don't know about that is Harry Nilsson wrote that song,

and Harry Nilsson's version of One is pretty close to Amy Mann's. Amy Mann covered Harry Nilsson. She didn't cover Three Dog Night. She just pretty much covered Harry Nilsson's version, and did it beautifully because I love her voice. But she's friends with Paul Thomas Anderson and she had this song

Why am I blanking on the title? Now that I've met you, would it upset you if we never saw each other again? So she's having coffee, drinks, and he said, who would say that? What kind of person would say that?

Who's that character that would say that? So he started fleshing out a character that would say that, and he wrote Magnolia around that song, basically. So it was actually amy man's songs were first wow if you want in an odd way i did not know this a movie was written around this soundtrack rather than and what a movie yeah and then so that was um uh what's her name's character i've only seen it 10 times you think i remember remember? Yeah, I haven't seen it. Plummer. Yeah, Amanda Plummer.

That's her character. She says that to John C. Reilly's character, the cop, when she finally goes out with him. Now that I've met you, it would upset you if we never saw each other again. And so that's her. And then that story evolved into, well, where was she from? Who's her father? Then there's the cop.

And then her father was part of the show with the kids on it, and William H. Macy was on that show. So it really, imagine that song is a circle, and all the stories are the spokes around it, and that's Magnolia. And so it was only natural she became the prominent on the soundtrack, and then

I don't know if she has a part in it. She's got a part in The Big Lebowski. Did you know that, Amy Mann? No, I didn't know that. I love The Big Lebowski. Coen Brothers, you're naming all my favorite filmmakers today. Oh, Coen Brothers. Gosh, I just love Coen Brothers. Now, Big Lebowski,

you know The Toe? I don't think we're spoiling here. It's a 20-year-old movie. It's a 25-year-old movie. But you know The Toe? And then at the end, they pan down to this woman and it's her toe? That's Amy Mann. Wow. That's great. She's one of the nihilists. So before

we leave Magnolia, though, yesterday with my two older kids, we're watching Tropic Thunder. They hadn't seen it before. And my daughter Michelle is like, who is that? Okay, Les my God. And my daughter Michelle is like, who is that? Okay, Les Grossman, okay?

And I'm like, that is Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise, I know. I know. And she's like, holy smokes. And she's like, this is the best Tom Cruise has ever been. And I said, and this happened yesterday, and I forgot, this has nothing to do with your song list.

I said, wait until we see Magnolia. And Tom Cruise has been in some big movies. And love him or hate him, he's a prominent actor in the last, whatever, 30 years. But his performance in Magnolia, I feel he gets screwed. It was an Oscar-worthy performance. It was exceptional, his performance in Magnolia.

There's a saying that Tom Cruise, long hair, serious part. Tom Cruise, short hair, action movie. So like when he did Born on the Fourth of July, right? Tom Cruise, long hair, serious part. Tom Cruise, short hair, action movie. Like when he did Born on the Fourth of July, right? Long hair, you know, and all that. But Magnolia, with the entire cast, I mean, is amazing. And Amy Mann, so I get into Amy Mann. I've seen her four times.

I didn't see her the last time, I think, at Danforth Music Hall. I just couldn't go. Her latest album, I feel like I'm plugging. No, go nuts. This is it. Her latest album is called Mental Health. What? Mental Illness. And when she was writing her new album,

she said, I think I have a new album. I think I've got maybe 8, 10, 12 songs ready to go. And somebody said, oh, so 12 songs about your mental illness then. As a joke to her, a close friend. And she looked back and went, yeah, I guess. And nobody can write a lyric like her. Great voice.

She's, I think, still with Michael Penn, Sean Penn's brother. Right. He's a songwriter in his own right. Yeah, and he's actually pretty good. And they toured together when I saw him at the Phoenix. I saw her at Palais Royale, which was my favorite. I bike by it every day. Because

there was no seats. I just stood there a foot from her on the stage that was only a foot high, and I'm watching her. And then I see them at the Phoenix. She's with Michael Penn, and they have this little bit they do in the middle of their act then

where we're not really good at banter between songs, so we've hired somebody to provide some banter. Here's a friend of ours. He's a comedian where we live, and I think you'll like him. Please welcome Patton Oswalt. And Patton Oswalt comes out, and he does five minutes of banter,

and then he goes out, and they play another couple of songs, and then all the time there's some banter between songs, and he'd five minutes of banter. And then he goes out and they play another couple of songs. And then, well, time for some banter between songs. And he'd come out. That's great. So, yeah, she's magnificent. I want to see a band at the, an act at the Palais Royale. I have a four CD set, a live album by Sloan.

And it's called Live at the Palais Royale. Wow. But I only have the CDs. I wasn't there. Although a member of Sloan has been on this show, but Chris Murphy. But I bike by Palais Royale every day, and it looks like a very intimate venue to see an act.

But one last note on Amy Mann. We have to tell people they might know this, but she, of course, is the lady who sings in Till Tuesday. That's right. And they had the huge hit, Voices Carry. Yeah. So people might not know. That's right. And they had the huge hit, Voices Carry. Yeah. So people might not know, that's Amy Mann. It might be the video for this song, Calling It Quits,

where the scene opens in a bar and it's karaoke. And there's some kids on stage and they're singing Voices Carry for the 10 seconds. And then they stop and Amy Mann comes out and does Calling It Quits. There's a great end of Voices, Carrie, where she's kind of singing, screaming. I don't know how to explain it, but it's just fantastic. So we should know when Amy Mann was destined for great things.

But everyone, go see Magnolia. That's your homework right there. True enough, yeah. And let's hear Larry Fedorek's ninth jam. This bitter earth. Well, what a fruit it bears What good is love That no one shares no one shares And if my life

is like the dust that hides the glow of a rose What good am I? Heaven only knows. Now this bitter earth This bitter earth, Dinah Washington It's rain, it's bitter earth

Fails love affairs, calling it quits Oh my, what a jam I'm like, oh, I'm so depressed This song, maybe this bitter earth Ain't so bitter after all That's where we're going here Just to spin this positively a little bit. But Dinah Washington, to me, people talk Billie Holiday.

I'm sorry. She's fantastic. Of course she's Billie Holiday. But Dinah Washington, to me, is the great voice of blues and soul and everything. She was so and died young. And it's interesting, when Tony Bennett did the duets with Amy Winehouse, he said Amy Winehouse has a Dinah Washington quality. And I don't think anybody else ever has except Amy Winehouse.

So much emotion. And a troubled person and died young and, you know, the gin got her at the end. But Dinah Washington is another go-to artist for me where I just have to hear her voice. And she does a lot of standards and may have had some hits, I don't know. I think she died in, I want to say, 61, something like that. So I only discovered her recently.

And it was at the mix on the morning show. At Christmas time, we exchanged little gifts and Carol Alexander, our co-host, got me a cassette of Red Hot and Blue, which was a great album for AIDS and AIDS Relief and various artists doing Cole Porter songs like U2 and the Neville Brothers and even Sinead O'Connor, Katie Lang.

Great, great, great album, and I love this album forever. Wore out a cassette. Couldn't find a CD because that was the next format, couldn't find that. I'm actually in Manhattan one day. Let me name drop. But we were at Kiss, and we were doing a show in Manhattan. And so we got an hour before we have to leave for the airport. So I'm racing around Manhattan, and I find a Tower Records.

And I'm like, this is a shot in the dark. Would you have a CD called Red, Orange, and Blue? Yes. Wow. So I got the CD. So that was good now, because those last longer. So I find out I'm in love with Cole Porter songs. Who knew?

I love Cole Porter so much. So now I happen to be in California. And I'm driving by a used store, a used record store. And I go in. And there's a CD there of Cole Porter songs done by Fred Astaire, Tony Bennett all these acts and I buy that and this one song keeps coming up by these voices like whose voice is that

Dinah Washington and bingo I just started collecting Dinah Washington songs and this was I mean she's got so many but this was my favorite because it's such a lament. That album you bought, was it called Red, White, and Blue?

Red, Hot, and Blue. Red, Hot, and Blue. Is that the one where U2 does Under My Skin? Yes. Or is that a different one? No, that's the one. Okay. Yeah.

They tried to push that on Much Music as like get the kids into the cool porter. Yeah. I don't know if it worked or not, but yeah, those are great standards. There's a lot of money, and they, like, In the Still of the Night by the Neville Brothers with Aaron Neville singing lead on In the Still of the Night. It's just incredible.

It's a great album. I still throw it on every once in a while. And then they did a Red Hot and Dance, which is more of a dancey thing also for the same cause, and I think they did a few that didn't match the success of Red Hot and Blue as an album. But in a roundabout way, it led me to Dinah Washington,

which every time I play Dinah Washington, I think of my friend Carol, who first got me on this little journey. Well, that's what I love about this series, is stories like that. Like, it's sometimes how you're introduced to an artist. It's just sometimes that alone is a fascinating tale like you just did there and then the person it's like i i still think of tim

mcdougall in grade seven uh i was listening to a lot of billy idol and i still remember he gave me uh never mind the bollocks by the sex pencil okay cassette of course and i remember like listening to that and it was like it's like all of a sudden that it's like a gateway to this whole world that you just you know you were busy listening to like to like George Michael's faith and then you get this thing, you know, it's like, Oh,

what's this? And then next thing you know, yeah, you're listening to, you know, next thing you know, you're listening to London calling and it just opens up a whole bunch of stuff.

But, uh, that's great. Um, fantastic. By the way, you have a note you sent me and I just want to ask about it. So you said,

uh, there's two versions, I guess, of this bitter earth by Dinah Washington. So you have a note here two and a half minute version not the six and a half minute version so i got you the two and a half minute version i'm just curious why not the six and a half because it too long no because i think it's a i believe it's a remix and it's yeah and this was the original that's the way it was this is the one you love this two and a half minute version because way it was made. This is the one you love, this two-and-a-half-minute version. Yeah, because it kind of, I mean,

how much do you want to sing about how bitter the earth is and how you have no one to share it with? Do you want to do that for six minutes or two minutes? But as I said, it kind of resolves, you know, that it's a song about how bad you feel when you don't have love and then when you find love, how that disappears. That's really it. Since I mentioned you had your first track,

I think it was Things Have Changed, that was over four minutes, I just want to point out that Love Interruption, for example, by Jack White, is like two and a half minutes. And This Bitter Earth is two and a half minutes. So you're right back on getting that average down again. Yes. How many songs did you play this hour, Larry, at CFTR?

12? No, we're supposed to play 14. Oh, okay. That's why Blur put out song two well after CFTR. Well, not well after, actually, just shortly after CFTR, I guess. Blur two came out for people who only have two minutes. At CFTR, we loved, and Tom Rivers' morning show especially, because they did song counts for the hour. We loved Green Boat Annie, two minutes, one second.

Two minutes, one second, if I'm remembering. Or was it even 1.56? But it was great. Canadian content. Right. And you could play it, and if we talked too much

or our bits ran too long and we still had to play a song before the top of the hour, it's two minutes to the top of the hour, and news had to be on time. Dreamboat Annie. Oh my gosh.

That reminds me, in the 90s, I listened to a lot of 102.1 The Edge and their go-to, if it wasn't Song 2 by Blur, their go-to was The Good in Everyone by Sloan.

Okay, so we're back to Sloan here, which is like two minutes and one second. It's like, you got to hit this before traffic or whatever. Yeah, so that's funny. You get the short songs.

Larry, are you ready for your last jam? I am. I am. Great clouds rolling over my head I'm walking up a hill to get my fortune read I can still take rejection But it does get harder to do I wish I could show you how you've hurt me And whether it would hurt you too Tennis shoes hanging from a telephone wire

I've got a little money, I could get a little higher I was alright a while, but you know how it goes Everything in moderation, including moderation as a whole I never did like the people where I was employed They was always out to get me cause I'm paranoid Now I'm working for myself and that don't pay a lousy dime If what we're here to do is learn to forgive I'm gonna need no more time

It's too soon to tell It's too soon to tell. Too soon to tell. It's too soon to tell. Too soon to tell. It's too soon to tell. Too soon to tell. My, my. It's too soon to tell what's gonna happen.

Too Soon to Tell, Todd Snyder. Yeah. What a great album. What a great album. It's a great song. This is a great line here. So the song is full of these little things, like everything in moderation, including moderation, I suppose. And the best revenge is revenge and it's too soon to tell what's going to happen to us when we die

i wish i could show you how you hurt me in a way that wouldn't hurt you too it's uh he just talks about its relationship with with you know a love it's a relationship with workers i didn't a love. It's a relationship with workers. I didn't like the place where I was employed. They're always out to get me because I'm paranoid. It's a relationship with God. I think this is the line about God coming up here. Yes, I want to trust you, buddy, but you're clearly keeping secrets from me. He's speaking to God.

I'd like to trust you, buddy, but you're clearly keeping secrets from me. He's speaking to God. I'd like to trust you, buddy, but you're clearly keeping secrets from me. It's a great song about a guy who's going up to get his fortune read and the fortune teller

is closed and he's just lamenting about everything and I love this guy, Todd Snyder. So many great songs. I love the, I have to ask my brother

who's a guitar player, what is the off guitar? And he says, it's like, it's dissonance that he's using. Like the the, I, I, I have to ask my brother who was a guitar player, what is the off guitar? And he says, it's like, it's dissonance that he's using. Like the guitar is off, right? Listen, it's just like, it's, it's playing off notes. It sounds wrong, but it fits. So to me, even the instrumentalist speaking to walking through life and I'm, am I not fitting in here? If I'm the only one right and everybody's wrong, that can't be right, so it must be me. I'm out of step with things here, right?

And so even the instrumentalist kind of telling the story and just wondering about life and everything. I just love this guy. What can you tell me about Todd Snyder? Because you sent me the 10 songs. I knew 9 out of the 10 artists. I did not know. I do not know Todd Snyder.

I don't know him well. He's like an East Coast guy, you know, college, music school, playing the guitar. Gets noticed by, I think, the people behind John Prine Records. You know John Prine? Yeah, yeah, yeah. John Prine is almost as close to Dylan Prine as a songwriter. So he's kind of that guy, and he's got a lot of story songs, and he, like I said, East Coast, but just travels all over now.

I think he's more, I want to say California for a while, kind of Southern California. So I'm reading The Globe and Mail on the weekend five, six years ago. And I'm reading the music reviews. And they're talking about this album. And for some reason, I'm enamored of the review. The guy loves this guy. And I'm like, well, I was looking for something new.

I'll see if it's around. And the next day, I'm walking by a Sunrise Records. And I pop in, and it's sitting right at the front of Sunrise Records. It was a little display, new. And there's Todd Snyder, and I'm like, well, this is a sign. So I pick it up, and I throw the whole album on, and it's magnificent. He's a genius. He's got a song on there called Brenda,

which is actually about Keith Richards and Mick Jagger. Keith Richards' biography, apparently, Keith calls Mick Brenda every once in a while, as a put-down, apparently. So he wrote a song about Brenda. It's called Brenda, and it's about how the two met and how they got together. And this is a spoiler, because you wouldn't know the song is about the Stones until the end, talking about Brenda. It's called Brenda and it's about how the two met and how they got together and I've, this is a spoiler because you wouldn't know the song

is about the Stones until the end, so I've now ruined the song for you. You can't spoil songs. But, spoil the ending of a song. But he writes like that, he's got a great sense of humor and just, Todd Snyder, it just seemed like a great wrap up, too soon to tell what's going to happen to

us when we die, from these other nine songs that were so uplifting, like A Rain and Heartbreak and This Bitter Earth. I got to thank you for coming here and doing this. I'm telling you, this is way too much fun. I'm sure at some point I'll get a cease and desist from all the record companies. You got to pull this right away, and I'll be like, oh, that was fun.

But then I'm still going to invite people like yourself over to kick out the jams. I just won't publish it. I'll keep it for my own personal collection. Because I love these stories. And I hope people listening love it as well. Because I'm going to keep doing this. You've introduced me to some new stuff.

And I now know about Todd Snyder. That's worth its weight in gold, my friend. I love that. So thank you. Thank you. This was fun. Before I close this out,

let me just tell everyone that Jay Onright is coming over tomorrow. So he's not kicking out the jams, although he has told me his favorite song of all time and we will play that, but we'll do a deep dive chat. And then Sofia Yurskovich is kicking out the jams

I don't, I'm trying to think, I had Siobhan Morris who's like a younger female it'll be interesting to have Sofia's ten jams, there might be a little Drake in there, that's what I'm told, maybe no spoilers but that

brings us to the end of our 258th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike and Larry is Larry Fedorik. And propertyinthesix.com is at Brian Gerstein. And Great Lakes Brewery is at Great Lakes Beer. See you all next week. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the snow, snow warms me today. And your smile is fine, and it's just like mine, and it won't go.