Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - LIVE From the 16th annual Joe Carter Classic Golf Tournament: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1714

Episode Date: June 18, 2025

In this 1714th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike records live from the 16th annual Joe Carter Classic Golf Tournament at Glen Abbey Golf Club. Guests include Rick Vaive, saxophonist Elan Trotman, Bernie Nicholls, Dave Stewart, Ernie Whitt, Kenny Lofton, Rod Black, Aaron Hicks, Cito Gaston, and Joe Carter. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Yes We Are Open, Nick Ainis and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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30 a.m. Wonderful, wonderful, a wonderful FOTM Tim Heron was outside as my driver picking me up and he got me here I'm all set up I'm in the lobby the celebrities are starting to trickle in because if I look to my right right now I see Rick Vibe there's Rick Vibe Tim Rick Vibe is here okay Tim didn't to come on the mic, but he might help me close the show. So this is all to set the table. I'm set up in the clubhouse at Glen Abbey. The only other media present is the Fan 590. They're recording live. I see FOTM Ben Ennis way over there. So I believe the way this works is I believe Sportsnet gets first crack at the celebrities as they come in, be it Dion Faneuf or Jeremy Rowanek or Dave Stewart.

And then I'm allowed to like pounce afterwards and and get who I can hear. So I believe, play by play here, I see Rick Vibe has wandered over to the Fan 590 table. So again, there's not a lot of activity right now, very early, 721. But Rick Vibe has sat down. He's on the Fan 590 now. So perhaps our first guest will be Rick Vibe when he finishes his hit on the Fan 590. So stay tuned. We don't know what's going to happen today. And that's part of the fun. Live from Glen Abbey Golf Club for the Joe Carter Golf Tournament. As is tradition, we did the exact same thing last year.

My first guest, Leafs captain, first 50 goal scorer in franchise history, it's Mr. Rick Vibe. How you doing Rick? I'm good, I'm good. Good to see you. You might remember your Toronto Mike debut was at Christie Pitts. Do you remember this? Yes. Before a Leafs game. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. And then we did it again last year. Hey, I know you don't have a lot of time because I can smell the bacon. Can you smell that? Yeah, I can actually. You haven't had breakfast yet, have you? No, I haven't. Okay, so I got a hungry Rick vibe is what I got here. So we're gonna be real quick here. Hot takes. Okay, you wrote a piece for The Sun. Yep. Can we chat about that? It was quite a hot take. Firstly, is this

your new, the new chapter in your career? You're gonna be a sports journalist and be writing more often. Is that the plan? No, no. I didn't write it. I just kind of on the phone talked to Lance and he's the one that wrote it and I just gave him my takes on each game and we went from there. Well let's talk for a moment if you don't mind about Mitch Marner. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen because that's where we're making the bacon. Right? Yeah well I just feel that he's not of he's not able to let things roll off his back. I think he takes things seriously. Like I

mean, like I remember when I played in Toronto, I mean I read the paper every day. It wasn't always positive, but at the end of the day, if you can't handle the pressure and let things roll off your back, then you can't play in a market like Toronto, especially if you're from Toronto, which makes it even worse. Like I mentioned off the top, you're the newest member of our sports media, but there's a lot of sports media in Toronto and people give a shit about the Toronto Maple Leafs. I'm talking about the hockey team now, not the baseball team.

And the fact is that you're going to have a lot of eyeballs on you and every move is scrutinized and that's not for all personality types is it Rick? No absolutely not I mean especially when you're a Toronto boy you're from Toronto you just had a child and you know everybody wants to get into your life and I just say I don't know I when I look at Mitch before games and things like that he looks nervous just something you know in his face he closes his eyes. You're reading his body language. During the national anthem and breathing and I he just looks nervous and I think he

would benefit from probably going to like San Jose or Utah or someone like somewhere like right where no one will recognize you know nobody will know him so him and his wife could go to the mall with their kid and nobody would bother them and they could have a you know a rather normal life in a place like that but let me ask you this, okay? So we just had the Four Nations Cup in February. And you want attention, okay? That was huge because at the same time,

I don't know if you remember this, Rick, the President of the United States was talking about making us the 51st state. So there was a lot, it was more than a hockey game for a lot of us Canadians. And in overtime, in the finals there, it was Mitch Marner who gave that sublime pass to Connor McDavid who put it home to win that thing.

And I mean, the whole country erupted in celebration. But there's Mitch rising to the occasion. I mean, he made a hell of a play when the entire country needed it most. So he has the ability to elevate his play when all the pressure's on. Oh, he's the difference. I guess what's the difference between that player? Yeah, there's no question. I mean, we're not questioning his ability. That's one thing. Right. I just come play off time. It just seems like, you know, like, I mean, he's not you look at the way Florida played right I mean they just finish every check they just they don't and it doesn't matter who they are what size they are they finish every single check and

You know when Mitch seems to be nervous sometimes they go after the puck because he's gonna get hit and You know I it's not a knock on him. It's just, I mean, he's an extremely talented player, but come playoff time, you gotta play a little differently. And the game is basically played three feet from the boards, and if you're not willing to take a hit to make a play or hit someone to knock them off the puck, then obviously you're not going to have success. I love this Rick Vive real talk, man. And I love the fact you're now a three-timer on Toronto Mike, third time.

Your fifth time, Rick, we're going to get him a jacket. Okay, Tim, Tim, take a note. A jacket for Rick Vive, his fifth time. I know you're smelling the bacon and you're wanting to get out of here, but I just want to ask you about one more guy, Connor McDavid, okay? So Connor McDavid, who scored the goal that Mitch Marner set him up for that big winner, the best player in the game today, will Connor McDavid eventually become a Toronto Maple Leaf?

I don't know. I can't see that happening. I really can't. You're breaking my heart Rick. No, well I mean I just don't think that Eminem is ever gonna let them go. They're gonna pay him whatever and don't forget the cap's gonna go up to what? $113 million and within three years so you know they could probably pay him $18 to $20 million. Do you get a cut of that? I feel like we are.

I wish. Rick missed out on these good. Look, I got to say thank you again because you're kicking things off at the Joe Carter Classic. Love seeing you here. Hope to see you here again next year. But again, I just want to thank you because I'm going to tell 10 year old Mike, that's me. I'm going in the time machine to the mid 80s and I'm going to tell 10 year old Mike, that's me. I'm going in the time machine to the mid 80s and I'm gonna tell 10 year old Mike he didn't get one, he didn't get two, he got three sit downs with number 20, 22, Rick Vibe, 50 goal score. I'm gonna blow his mind man so thanks for doing this. Thanks for doing this buddy. My pleasure.

Everything I know about the sax, I learned it from Lisa Simpson on the Simpsons here. We had a bona fide saxophonist here. Please remind me, what's your name? I'm Elon Trotman. And Elon, give me a vibe, where would I hear some of your fantastic work here? I want to learn more about Elon. Sure, I have about 10 albums as a solo artist, Spotify, Pandora, iTunes, Amazon Music. My latest project was a Marvin Gaye tribute called Dear Marvin on the saxophone and my latest single is called Running Hot. It was just a number one song in the country on Billboard's Smooth Jazz Radio for three weeks. Smooth Jazz, they don't let me listen to Smooth Jazz.

Everybody needs a little smooth jazz sometimes. For how long you've been playing saxophone? For as long as I can remember man, since I was about 10 years old. You know, I went to the Berklee College of Music in Boston and I'm actually a professor there now. Like you're a real professor though, because sometimes teachers call themselves professor. You're a real professor. I'm a real professor with real students, yes. Man, okay. Now, where are you based? You're based in Boston? Yeah, based in Boston, but originally born and raised in Barbados.

And at what age did you make your way to the States? Right after high school, so I started my undergrad studies when I was 17 years old. Okay, and how often do you get to Toronto? Or the GTA? Once every two years. I've performed at the Harbor Center quite a few times for the Barbados on the Water Festival. I've done the Markham Jazz Festival and this is my fifth year doing Joe's tournament. So how do you get involved in this tournament? Is there somebody who says, hey we got to get Elon? What's going on here? So I met Joe through a mutual friend at another golf tournament and you know he knew that I love golf and I got my first invite like I said about five years ago. I've been coming back every year since to support him and his foundation.

I also have a foundation so I understand the importance of giving back to the community and you know us as public figures and celebrities you know we have a duty to also give back. I love it. Here's my pledge to you my friend. I'm'm gonna catch up on all I've missed man. I'm gonna be on I use I use YouTube premium. Okay, so okay I don't have the Spotify. Okay, I'm gonna find you. I'm gonna listen to this. I do have one last question You're gonna get this bag. Okay. I've been watching. Yeah, they got all these these blue duffel bag things. Did you get yours yet? Yeah, they always take care of us on the first. Can you tell me what's in there? We call a swag

Free stuff from all the sponsors. What are we talking about here? Because last year they didn't let me have one I was here last year. They didn't let me have one. Well, we'll have to work something out for you this year Did you hook me up? You know like some shirts and stuff like that? Yeah, you know saxophone Lisa Simpson move over I got a new favorite saxophonist man. You know saxophone Lisa Simpson move over I got a new favorite saxophonist man you know what you are now you're now an FOTM that means friend of Toronto miked. Love it. I want it in the bio. When do you perform next in the GTA at the Greater Toronto area? No immediate plans but hopefully soon you know I'm heading to Tobago on Friday going down to the Caribbean to do a

festival down there. Be lucky son of a bitch. It was nice to meet you man. Nice to meet you man. I'm going to grab a selfie with you and I'm going to tell my kids I met a great saxophonist. Thanks for doing this buddy. No problem. My dear friend Bernie Nichols has returned. Bernie, how you doing buddy? I'm doing good thanks.

Good. I'm going to bring you back to a date in history. You ready for this? Sure. It was August 9th, 1988. Do you know what happened on August 9th 1988. Do you know what happened on August 9th 1988? I was golfing out East with Jeremy Ronick and heard that the LA Kings just traded for Wayne Gretzky I think. You got it 100%

so what does that day mean for you professionally because you know Jimmy Carson was the main guy in LA. He went to Edmonton in that blockbuster trade. I want to talk a little bit about what it was like playing with Wayne and how that changed your career. It was obviously amazing for me, not so good for Jimmy. I felt bad for Jimmy. But great opportunity for me, obviously. Having the opportunity to play with Grites, it was, I tell people, it was like Christmas Day every day. It was really a lot of fun. Great experience for sure. God, and it doesn't hurt. Greatest playmaker in the history of the game. That's right.

Yeah. It's good for Bernie. It was good for me. I got a few of them that year for sure. And what kind of a teammate was Wayne? Obviously we know what he did on the ice, but I'm just curious about this larger than life figure that's still referenced on the daily here in this country. But what kind of a teammate was number 99? He was awesome. And I've told people before, and I'm not sure why, but I was Gretz's guy that year. Every day we went and had lunch, every

road trip we hung together, I was with them. Every day for a year it was amazing. Amazing and this is your second Toronto mic'd appearance so that's amazing. I envision a Toronto mic logo tattoo. You still getting tattoos? I'm done with those but I'll have to work on this one for sure. Alright, I know you're hungry. You can smell that bacon going, man. Thanks for taking a couple of minutes and chatting me up again. We'll do this again next year, okay Bernie? Okay Mike, you bet. Thanks buddy.

Yeah. Dave Stewart, your theme song should be, When Smoke Gets in Your Eyes. This should be the the song that plays to introduce you. Welcome to Toronto Mike Dave. Thank you for having me. Now a fun fact about you sir, three World Series with three different teams that's an exclusive club to win with three different teams here. If you had to pick a favorite right now and I know you're talking to Toronto Mike so you know what I'm ringing for here, but which of those three titles are you most proud of?

Oh, I mean they're all they're all different. You know the the the the title that I won with the Dodgers in 81 probably was rewarding in so many in eighty one uh... probably it was rewarding in in so many ways of in and you know we weren't wearing a strike shortened season it was the first time that the playoff format had had been altered and it was different we lose the first two games to the houston astros and we can only lose three and then we're out of it. We come back and we win three straight. We go to

Montreal, we lose the first two, we come back and we win three straight. Right. And then Monday. And then we go to, we come back, we go to the Yankees, we lose the first two in Yankee state and win the next four uh... you know that was a great world series to win and it's a story that will be told in and if people are are watching playoff in world series history that has to go that team has to go down as one of the the best teams in in a

world series or playoff you know in eighty nine you know there, there's drama with the earthquake. And we ended up sweeping the Giants in that one. And so, you know, obviously being from the Bay Area and having that victory, it was a great, great, great opportunity and victory against the Giants. And then, you know, the one here in Toronto you know I don't know if it's going to be as climactic as it was when Joe hit that home run off of wild Mitch Mitch Mitch Williams Mitch Williams I don't know that you'd ever

have anything to match that moment in baseball and they show it all the time in baseball their home runs that they show they showed joe carter's they show kirk gipson great uh... and but i mean that was that was a that was a great world series to win i mean for me you know it's tough to say which was the best but i can tell you what i enjoyed

about that one of the most please it wasn't the fact that they had won in 92 Um for me it was the fact that I had an opportunity to play with Paul Molodare. I had the chance to play with Joe Carter Jack Morris Paul Robbie Alomar to have the opportunity to play with guys that You looked across the field and you said if

you ever get that opportunity, you want to have it. And I was able to come here, play with those guys and win. It just didn't come any better. And then the community here, which, you know, I had become very involved in, you know, with the different charities and it was just I don't know that there was a better feeling Montreal was no longer a part of the league and you know I can remember going into Vancouver which is on the west coast and people were very very appreciative of winning a World Series

for Canada so it was winning for our country. Well, how did you end up here? Did Pat Gillick make you an offer you couldn't refuse, or was it just you wanted to play with people like Joe Carter? Well, Pat, he called me his first opportunity that he could to let me know that I was on the top of his list to bring here if Jimmy Key didn't come back. Right. And Jimmy Key did not come back

and I did have an opportunity to play for the Yankees. And so Joe played a big part of it, Alomar played a big part of it. When I look back on it, Devo White ended up being one of my best friends after playing here in Toronto. You know, Paul Moller was a guy I to play with indian jack morris and i remember cito asking me because i had started six or seven opening days for the oakland ace right

and i remember coming here cito saying well you know jack is here on the says i want to be be respectful uh... of what you want to do i think he knew that i would take a back seat to Joe. I mean, take a back seat to Jack. Jack ended up starting open day. I was behind Jack. Then we had Stoudelmeyer, we had Guzman and Hentgen, who ended up being our fifth

starter, but one of our best starters before the season was over with. So it was all of those opportunities, those things, those people, the city, those were the things that brought me to Toronto. Well, I'm so glad you were here. Lest we forget, you had the start in game six when Joe touches a mall. You started that game. Yes. Okay. I'm going to ask you about a guy who was dancing on second base when Mitch Williams threw that pitch to Joe. Ricky Henderson, could you spend a moment telling me about playing with the greatest

base stealer the game has ever seen, Ricky Henderson? Oh, dude. I grew up with Ricky. I've known Ricky since I was 12 years old. And so I played with Ricky throughout my youth and into the big leagues. And I mean, there's just, you called him the greatest base stealer. I think that Ricky Henderson was one of the top five players to ever play Major League Baseball.

I'm a guy that dominated the game in so many different ways. And I mean, when he's on the other side, you hate him. When he's in your clubhouse, you love him because he does anything and everything necessary to win a baseball game. There's no guy that I've ever played with or I've ever witnessed for that matter, even today in today's game, that when he stepped on the field,

he had an opportunity to dominate a single performance, a single game, and put a team in a position to win. And how instrumental was he when Joe Carter hits the walk-off home run touching them all? How key was it that you had the greatest bass stealer in the game dancing on second base getting in Mitch Williams' head? Well, it started when you walked him and he was on first base. Now he's on second base you know I mean he's a distraction in itself and one of the things that that I admired about Ricky and he said about

himself that most people don't even think about is that you know his discipline of the of the strike zone always put him in a position to do dangerous things in the game. Because if you walk him, he steals two bases, he scores on an infield ground ball. If you don't make a good enough pitch, he hits a home run. I mean, he was a dominant player. And there's just, I don't think that there's been a player before him or a player after him that could dominate a game in the way that he did. Now Joe Carter is the reason you're here today what's your

relationship like with Joe Carter in 2025? I consider Joe one of my best friends you know playing here started that started that ball rolling and you know I had an opportunity in in Arizona when I was a general bat manager there to bring Joe on as part of our staff. Because Joe is one of the great baseball minds that I've ever been around. From the sit and listen to Joe and Alomar and Olerud and to just listen to that crew and Molitor talk about the game, hitting, hitting, pitching during the course of the game. I knew at

that moment if I had an opportunity to work with him in a different capacity which it eventually happened that I would do that. But I mean he's just a great baseball mind and one of the guys that should always be in the game of baseball. Well I appreciate this time you gave me here today and good luck on the course today. Thank you. Thanks for being here. Thank you very much. Bye bye. Ernie Witt, welcome to Toronto Miked. Thank you. It's good to be here. Well what a pleasure. I'm gonna tell you a quick story. My brother Ryan, so shout out to my brother Ryan, we had this thing as kids growing up watching our Blue Jays

in the 80s. We all had our own player I was George Bell and my brother was Ernie wit Ryan and at the exhibition he was very young but at exhibition stadium on the scoreboard It would say we want a hit on that old exhibition stadium and my brother thought they were saying we want wit I'm glad to hear someone say they want me. Oh my god You know what underappreciated? catcher back in the day I'm glad to hear someone say they want me. Oh my god. You know what, underappreciated catcher back in the day, what are your memories of playing for the Blue Jays back in the good old exhibition stadium days? Just I guess just the whole experience of it. You know, a new team coming into a city that was craving baseball, I think, at that time,

and then watching our team develop and form from 77 through 85 when we won the first division, and watching the crowds get excited. And, you know, it was a whole package. It was a whole package. You were there. Now, I just need a little real talk on Exhibition Stadium. So, obviously, we've been playing in the Dome since 89. I personally look back with great nostalgia, great fondness for the mistake by the lake as it was known. But can you give me the real talk? Was that a piece of crap to be playing in?

Like what was it like calling Exhibition Stadium home as a major league baseball team? Be honest with me, Ernie. Home is what you make of it. know I mean to me it was it was what was given to us and what we had to do to play with it. I felt bad for the fans you know especially when Clement weather comes along there's no place to hide there was no place to hide. And that wind coming off Lake Ontario oh my goodness. There was always a warm breeze. My favorite player I mentioned was George Bell. You were right up there. I loved Ernie Witt number 12. But can you tell me about playing for

Joe? Seemed like a fiery competitor but what kind of teammate was... sorry Joe, did I say Joe? You did. George. George Bell. What kind of teammate was George Bell? That's an easy one. He was my favorite teammate. I mean, all he wanted to do was win. You know, is it's give a hundred percent, do your best and we want to win. And you know, a lot of people took, you know, they didn't like his attitude or whatever. I loved it because he was fiery. He wanted to win. And that's what it's all about. See, I want to see, I want to see the passion in the belly. Absolutely.

You have to have passion. Once in a while you got to tell someone to kiss your purple ass, right? Every now and then it doesn't hurt. Quick little plug from George here. Hi, I'm George Bell. You listen to Toronto Mike. There you go, a little George Bell. Ernie Witt, would you say, hi, this is Ernie Witt.

You're listening to Toronto Mike. Hi, this is Ernie Witt, would you say hi? This is Ernie Witt. You're listening to Toronto Mike. Hi, this is Ernie Witt. You're listening to Toronto Mike. Thank you so much buddy. Good luck on the course today and thanks for doing this. It's for a great cause. Great to see you. Kenny Lofton, how's the breakfast at this Joe Carter classic? Well it started off pretty good and then you came in and tried to disturb me from eating. You can't stop a black man from eating his bacon. On that note, thank you for taking two minutes. I promised you two minutes but my move lately is I say two minutes and I take five. You're on the clock. Five time AL stolen base leader man. You were

ranked 15th when you retired. 15th amongst the all-time stolen bass leaders. 622 stolen basses, but you didn't steal that bacon you were invited here today. Well you know sometimes my hands and feet they get a little sneaky so stealing basses and stealing things that's part of my DNA. I think I was looking at you like the teams you played for you played for every team but the Blue Jays is that right? I played for a lot of teams and Blue Jays wasn't one of them. They didn't want me. Is that right? Yeah. No they had Devon White so they didn't need me. So at this event I believe at this Joe Carter Classic in support of Children's Aid Foundation of Canada I believe Vince Coleman is here have you

seen Vince? He's on the list but I haven't seen him. I think Canada. I believe Vince Coleman is here. Have you seen Vince? He's on the list, but I haven't seen him. I think his daughter. Oh, he's on here. Some stuff with his, yeah, his track star. I think something's going on. Because it would be kind of strange, man, for a guy with 622 stolen bases

and you're at this golf tournament and there's a guy there with more stolen bases. Vince stole 753. Well, if I was playing in the era when the guys were picking their leg up like Satchel Page when the Grunner's on base, I would have had 800, 900 stolen bases. May I ask you about somebody we lost in the past year who has the old time lead? What were your thoughts of Ricky Henderson when you were playing? Was he a guy you know you aspired to beat or I'm just curious what your relationship

would have been like with a guy like Ricky Henderson? Well I did take the stolen base title away from Ricky so I can say that when I came in. But again when he was in his prime he was a great leadoff hitter, a great stolen base guy. And once he came in, when I came in, they started to change the way they picked over or the way they did start doing slide steps instead of the high leg kicks. So once they started doing the high leg kicks, the stolen bases in general started to go down. Will a player ever get 100 stolen bases in a season again? No. You know Vince last guy to do it. But enough about Vince, you're Kenny Lofton. You're amazing buddy. I wish you did play for my Blue Jays. I

promised I'd take two minutes and I'm gonna be a man of my word but save some bacon for the rest of us man. I'm not doing that. I'm taking it all. Thanks for doing this man. No problem, anytime. I'm with the man who made all of this possible. FOTM Rod Black. Joe Carter? No. And where the hell's Barclay? I saw him on the telecast last night. I don't know man, I don't know, I can't make it out of play. I'm broadcasting basketball right now man, I can't do it. I don't like that Jim Carter guy anyway. Jerry Carter or whatever his name is. So let the record show I'm only here because you got me in here last year. Well you're only here because you're good

at what you do and you should deserve to be here so it's good. Who have you talked to today? So I talked to Kenny Lofton, Ernie Witt. He's a great dude. Kenny Lofton was funny. Yeah. Ernie Witt, Bernie Nichols. Let me tell you about who I didn't talk to because I had a face-to-face of Russell Marden. I have a call loaded up. I'm going to play with you real quick. I know you've got to get out of here.

Oh, that's all right. So this is the call. I was going to play for Russell. So I had Russell Martin in my sights and I'm like, Russell, I'm sure he can come and do this before you. I will tell you he is a sweetheart of a guy well and I love that. He said you know what he told me he said I hurt my back I need to work on my swing. Oh I don't think he understands that this day yesterday was important today it don't matter so it don't matter because you're playing this is golf a palooza

this is a there's a party in a golf game breaks out. That's how it works. No wonder you're here. Yeah. So it's a good one. But Russ, I was the host of the baseball hall of fame, Canadian baseball hall of fame last summer in St. Mary's. And I have never seen someone more genuine, humble, uh, passionate, emotional about his induction than Russell Martin. What if I told you he's the only person I asked to come on the mic who said no to me? No, he'll do it. But he said it in the nicest way.

Yeah, he's the nicest guy. So how can I take advantage of our friendship further? Could you get me Russell Martin for two minutes? How long are you going to stay? I will for sure. Well, I'll stay for Russell. But what about Ceto Gaston? Ceto's right there.

I know, but one of the guys who walks around and we're gonna go tee off right away I gotta make these announcements but grab Cito. Okay and one more name. If not I can just do a Cito Gaston for you. So you know we see each other a lot of Cito Gaston. Okay that's not quite the same thing though. I keep seeing you at Christie Pitts of course. I remember when I was the World Series manager and he should be in the Hall of Fame by the way. Well that's gonna be my first thing here, but okay. So Toronto Maple Leafs baseball. Yeah, go Leafs go. Go Leafs go. It's great that the snowman is an official ambassador. Is Cito Gaston going to be an official ambassador? Yes, he is. I think he's been

signed sealed and no signed sealed and delivered, I believe. And he's, um, because I could bring that up as well. He's, uh, and by the way, another great, great, great human being. I love Cito Gaston, should be in the hall. Yeah. There's no doubt he has another chance. It's coming up and I think he's going to get in. He should be in the hall.

It's wrong that he's not. And there is a reason Paul Maurice, I do believe was one of the reasons that the Florida Panthers won the Stanley Cup. Unbelievable coach, unbelievable coach with people. With talent? Right. Cito Gaston's that guy. Cito Gaston. Hall of Fame is actually like Cito Gaston. You had me at hello. Yeah. But Joe Carter, quickly, the reason for this great event, right? I did have a chat recently with Toronto Maple Leafs manager Rob Butler,

and Rob recorded something for me to play to Ceto so I need Ceto on us yeah it's not Ceto Joe I need Joe any Ceto too but I need Joe Carter on my mics for two minutes so I can play the Rob Butler clip and have him react can you make that happen like is it too late no no no I will try to make sure that happen I keep them long because we're gonna go tee off soon and once they're on the course but what if I promise to do two minutes so two minutes of Cito two minutes with Joe Carter Butler another you know much I love that guy yeah you should have seen him at the

cons might sports dinner when Cito was honored this year was spectacular and how emotional he got and how Cito Gaston was the reason he has a real championship ring right but I love Robbie, well, who are those guys down there? Is that the Fan 5 90? You know, I'm taking the leftovers. No, no, do they not understand who you are? Like, it's worse. Are those guys on CNN?

No. Eh? No. CNN won't touch those guys. Seriously. But Rod, I know you've got to go. But last year, I took the leftovers when the Fan 590 did

their thing. But this year they put a camera crew out there, so now I've noticed the A-listers are doing the radio. No, no, no, we'll get you guys. We'll get you. We'll get you, for sure. Like, uh, oh, you can get Aaron Hicks as well. Aaron Hicks?

Why get another mic? Yeah, get him on here, man. This guy is the leader in the clubhouse by the way And forget it. I think he's the best golfer in the entire Woods family now as well Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, even though even though I know Uncle tiger if he came back you would know we're not doing that this guy hits the ball long and hard just like he did when he was in baseball, but You've trans transition to golf nicely haven't you? Yeah. Yeah, I definitely have the ball long and hard just like he did when he was in baseball. But you've

transitioned to golf nicely haven't you? Yeah yeah I definitely have. I've been competing in a couple tournaments but just went under in tournament play for the first time which was was a huge deal to me because every time I seem to get in competition the nerves are a little bit different than I'm used to. I mean the nerves are in your hands whereas in baseball you kind of have those nerves but you could use them to your advantage but in golf it doesn't work that way so it's like my my hands are shaking while I'm trying to putt this three-footer that I'm normally not nervous about. Were you even born when Joe hit the home run? I don't know. What's so funny about that video is that I was actually four years old when Joe hit the home run. Oh you

were? Yes. I was born in 89. But it is funny seeing the dates and then seeing them, seeing a little Joe Carter. Yeah. Joe, one of the things about getting a home run and doing this and becoming a hero is start eating. 100%. Start eating. And he's eating good. And he's a great, by the way, great cook, chef, whatever.

You ever had his pecan pie? Yes, I have. I've had. It's unbelievable. He makes the his pecan pie. Yes. I have it's unbelievable He makes the best pecan pie around and a little his fish too. It's fried fish is really good as well This guy can do it. I had no idea multi talented people in our midst here. I see you see do I got second? I on Cito here. I got a grassy over Rod invited me here last year Mm-hmm, but I didn't know right who will listen to the episode

I guess to make sure I didn't embarrass the club or something or whatever. And then he gave the thumbs up for my return. So like you opened the door Rod, which I appreciate. You know that. And Aaron Hicks gives you now a complete endorsement. Aaron Hicks gives me a complete endorsement. Hang on a second. Mr. Gaston, Cito Gaston, please come here for a moment. Could I? Oh, he's going to say no need.

You can come, you can come and say quickly. Come with, I got to go here too. I'm going here. Come on here Could I? He's gonna come on you can come on you come say quickly come with I gotta go here, too I'm going here. Come on here. I got him Wow Alright, so that's Oh, I'm announcing you I'm announcing you he just wants to say hello. I said you got to say hello to the legend Come on here. He's just topping for 30 seconds Come on here. Just hop in for 30 seconds. This will be painless. 30 seconds. There you go brother. Okay get us close. I know you have a seat. 30. This is my pledge to you. I just want to say something. All right. Aaron Hicks. Cito Gaston here. Cito really what I just want to say as a lifelong Toronto Blue Jays fan. I want to say thank you for the years you gave us,

and I'm going to do everything in my power to get you in Cooperstown where you belong. Thank you, I appreciate it. That's an oversight. Thank you. So I'm going to do everything I can there. I just had a quick question. Are you doing some ambassador work with the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team this year? I guess you would call it that, you know. One of my players is the manager of that team, you know. And so I thought I'd go out and help him out a little bit

and make sure things go right. Butler is the manager. You're referring to 1993 World Series champion Rob Butler. Yeah, Rob Butler. He said some very kind things about you recently. Now, I promise you 30 seconds and you're Cito Gaston. I'm not going to betray you. So thank you for doing

this but because of my relationship with Keith Stein and the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball I think we're gonna sit down again this summer with regards to the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball and then I'm gonna hit you of all the questions I've held on to for 20-30 years. It's all good. Thank you Cito Gaston. FOTM Cito Gaston. My pleasure. My pleasure. Thank you being. My pleasure. Oh my god. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks Mikey. Hey, it's a rare appearance by Future Mike.

This part might be a bit confusing because I wrapped. I was done. I was eating scrambled eggs and I was ready to tear apart my studio. When out of nowhere, Raul, hello to Raul. Good to see you again. Raul brought me Joe Carter. So this conversation with Joe happens after the outro and I was going to stick it at the end but too many of you bail on Toronto Mic during the closing theme.

So I'm like, I can't stick it at the end. They'll miss Joe Carter and I play the Rob Butler bit. So This part with Joe records after my outro with Tim got it Got it. So for the listeners, I just rapped and told you we missed out on Joe this year But we had Joe last year and we were grateful for every second. We spent with Joe Carter I'm pleased to say Joe Carter is making a minute for us. Joe, nice to see you again. This is not the real Joe Carter. With the real Joe Carter, please stand up. Please stand up. Yeah. Hey, it's always good to be back.

Hey, congrats on another great event here. The 16th Joe Carter Classic. I'm going to play 15 seconds from somebody you know and love. Here we go. When you do the golf thing with him, but but, that's what he called me all the time, but but, you'll know exactly what you're talking about, but but, said you should be in the Hall of Fame, like the actual Major League Hall of Fame, and see what he says, he'll be like, who? Yeah, Butler! That's right. But but, that is true, yes, yes, that is what we famously called, yeah, Mr. Butler, Yes, yes, Rob Butler. Hey, hey, it's always good to hear his voice.

Well, he thinks you belong in Cooperstown, buddy. Agree or disagree with Rob Butler? No, I agree. If you look at the criteria, what they say, they look at a 10-year period. And if you pick a 10-year period where I played, I was in the top three or four in home runs, RBIs, doubles, everything except for batting average. But it's not all about batting averages. Batting averages don't win you championships. You're in the hall of fame in my heart, Joe.

Well thank you, thank you, thank you. And I'm getting an evil look over here. I'm going to let you go, but I'm so glad we got to fit you in. I'm like, I can't go to the Joe Carter Classic without talking to the Joe Carter. Well thank you guys for being here on spot on location because without you guys we couldn't have always done this so a lot of notoriety and so a lot of fun and I'm very happy to always be back in my second home. And the Children's Aid Foundation of Canada thanks you. Yes all right thank you guys too. Thank you Toronto. Tim Heron how you

doing buddy? Excellent Mike. We're closing the show with you and we're gonna give the listenership an update on everything that happened But before we do that, I want to give you my sincere. Thank you I can't believe you picked me up at 6 30 a.m. This morning outside my home well Traditions start slowly and then they build and this one is in year two. I look forward to doing it again. So yeah, I should tell the listenership you did this last year, you did it again this

year, so my big question is will you do this again next year? I will be here. You're thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. Was that too early? Six thirty? I think, I feel it all worked out. Like we had Rick Vibe early,

and then we had about an hour to chill. Like there was trying to find the second celebrity. It took a while, right? Well, I think there was the fact that the two buses were a little bit later than we expected. And it was a deluge of people that just showed up at, with an hour to go before the tee-off time. So somewhere between 845 and 9, the next thing you know is is a hundred and

hundred plus people descended upon the circle out in front and it was chaos. Well this so what happens is we're told at 930 everybody's supposed to collect wherever this Rod Black presentations happens happening right now. So at 930 all the celebrities are kind of like oh my god I'm supposed to collect wherever this Rod Black presentation is happening right now. So at 9.30, all the celebrities are kind of like, oh my God, I'm supposed to be out there. But they didn't get here. So it was tough. I found it tough. One person that I really tried to get, I talked to Rod Black about this, but I really wanted Russell Martin on the show and I'm told he's a nice guy. And he really did have a couple of minutes because he did the signing here to our left. He went on the fan for five

minutes or so. I think he's the one that got away this time. Oh, so we're replacing Paul Henderson with Russell Martin. Is that what we're doing to Canadian heroes, but Rod Black basically wrestled Cito on the mic and even though I couldn't really get into anything meaty with, I think I told him he belongs in Cooperstown, but I feel like that sets the groundwork for the next time I have Ceto Gaston on, we can really get into things. Nurture nature. You put the seed in the ground there. Nurture. We nurtured, we soften the LZ. So thank you to Tim for picking

me up and bringing me here and for supporting me. Did you personally wrangle anybody or did I do all the wrangling this time? I think it's an 85-15 or 90-10 of you and me. But I did point out a few people that you weren't aware of. That's true. And we did have at least one guest on the mic who I wasn't sure who it was. Right. So that's always the fun part. And I apologize to Aaron.

Aaron Hicks, who's married to Cheyenne Woods, whose Tiger Woods is niece. Today, I learned I had no idea. But now all of Rod Black's jokes make sense to me now. Yes. In the moment, I was missing them completely. I figured so. I thought maybe it was a joke that he's got good at golf. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Aaron and

Cheyenne Woods got married two years ago and they have a son. Okay, good to know that. So we did get Ceto. He's now officially an FOTM, so check that off. We missed out on Russell Martin. We'll work on that next time. Otherwise, the only other person I kind of had my eye on but he slipped away for the second year in a row is Jeremy Roenick because I feel like he'd have something to say. Jeremy Roenick. And especially since he was inducted into the Hockey Hall of Fame last November. So it would have been an opportunity to ask him because he gave a very impassioned speech. Was there anybody else you saw wandering the halls that you feel may have made a great guest? We'll check over the list. Where was Dion

Faneuf today? I didn't see him. I didn't see him either. No. I had notes for Dion, all set up for Dion. You and I had a chat in the car about Dion. Look who's to your left. Okay. They made him come back and sign things. Oh my goodness. Now I can't, he already blew me off once. I'm not going to get blown off twice, but Russell Martin is now, I'd say, what is that? 20 feet away. Yes. Okay. We can do him play by play. He's signing things for the charity, which of course raises the money and that money, just so we're clear,

all of this money is going to the children's aid foundation of Canada, which is a worthy cause. Oh, there's the other guy who got away and Rod did his best but Joe. Joe Carter. Now we did get him last year. Yeah. But I had a clip here let me play what I was gonna play for him because who knows what's gonna happen in the future but I was gonna play this for Joe Carter. When you do the golf thing with him, butt butt, okay that's what he called me all the time, butt butt, you'll know exactly what you're talking about, butt butt. Said you should be in the Hall of thing like the actual major league Hall of Fame and she says he'll be like who but we have other that's right. So I was going to

play the the but but Joe. I personally hope Joe doesn't hear me. I don't think he belongs in the actual Hall of Fame Joe Carter. I think Cito possibly Dave Steve definitely Carlos Delgado definitely. I think Ceto possibly, Dave, Steve, definitely Carlos Delgado, definitely. I think Joe belongs in the Hall of very, very good. Well, I'll leave that. We all have our opinions. All right. Well, you know what they say about opinions here. So I know you have some breakfast. We're going to now take the breakfast that the celebrities were entitled to. In my mind, Tim is a celebrity. He's going to do that. So you're now able to eat because I know cold eggs kind of suck and I apologize

for this, but there's a lot more eggs in that other room. And everybody who tuned in, you never know what to expect. I never know who I'm going to get on the mic. And I feel like maybe we had fewer voices this time, but I will cherish forever Dave Stewart, for example. Absolutely. Smoke himself. Yep. Remember that stare he'd give the batter when he was on the mound? I got that stare today.

Such a genuine individual and a very philanthropic individual as well. And a big surprise because how much I enjoyed him, because he really fought me on doing this. And then he did it with like a glint in his eye, so to speak. Kenny Lofton. I got a lot of great and then again, I had a guy on, I wasn't sure who he was, but we were desperate because after Rick, there was a long period of time before we could find anybody. The saxophonist, like I got to go hear some of this saxophonist work. I think in the saxophone community he's a BFD, a big deal. Yes, absolutely. Have you ever heard of him?

I have because of this. Really? Oh yeah, because he's very good friends with Dave Cause and I was on a charitable board down in Los Angeles with Dave Cause. So we had a conversation a little bit about his school, Berkeley in Boston that he teaches at. So that was a real highlight for me, Mike. And that brings us to the end of our 1,714th episode. Again, we're recording live from Glen Abbey Golf Club in beautiful Oakville. This is the 16th annual Joe Carter Classic golf tournament. We missed out on Joe, but we'll get him next year because Tim we're doing it

again next year. Oh my goodness 364 days to practice. Thanks to all who made this possible and I mean this we have a big event coming up. I know you can't make it Tim, but June 26th from 6 to 9 p.m. is TMLX 19 at Great Lakes Brewery. Your first beers on the house. Palma Pasta is gonna feed everybody so thank you Great Lakes. Thank you Palma Pasta. Season 8 of Yes We Are Open. They've just wrapped that season. Catch up. It's fantastic. Al Grego happy 50th to you once more. Toronto Maple Leafs baseball, we did discuss it a little bit with Rod Black and Cito Gaston. RecycleMyElectronics.ca, building Toronto skyline with Nick Aynes, and of course,

Ridley Funeral Home. I've got a couple of tricks up my sleeve, but I can report that tomorrow I will be visited by... who's coming over tomorrow? Somebody very important. I'm offline now, I can't check my calendar, but it's gonna be a great chat and I have something else up my sleeve. A top secret zoom recording at 2 p.m. walking by us right now, by the way, grabbing themselves some juice on the other side, Jeremy Roanick. My goodness. See you all tomorrow. This is not future Mike, this is present Mike to tell you. Tomorrow I'm visited by Josh Matlow.

I just checked the calendar on my phone. Josh Matlow making his Toronto Mike debut tomorrow. See you then.