Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Liza Fromer Kicks Out the Jams: Toronto Mike'd #1249

Episode Date: May 3, 2023

In this 1248th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike catches up with Liza Fromer before she kicks out the jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, the Yes We Are Open podcast from Moneris, The Moment Lab, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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You're sitting down. August 2016. Yeah. You're doing the making? You were last year. Are you ready? You're sitting down. Yeah. August 2016. Yeah. You're doing the math. Yeah. That's a long time. That is a very long time. But I was saying when I came in, I believe that I was going to come kick out the jams.

And it was just before the pandemic started. It started. Yeah. And I think I sent you a note saying, maybe we need to bump this a week or something. Yeah. We thought maybe give it a couple of weeks. And then when this thing dies down. Dies down, exactly.

Then we'll get back to it. And now here we are, 2023. In fact, you gave me a list of jams. That's how like close we were to this. And I noticed the list changed. So it's kind of interesting like for me to see like your original 10 and then the new 10. There's some like repeats, but it's a different list. I don't remember the first 10.

And I'll tell you, I agonized over it. I agonized over it. I was going to my kid. It's like, what songs do I love? How old is your kid now? The one I was conferring with is almost 17. How many do you have? Two.

You have two. Okay, so 17. And how old is the other child? 13. Okay, so last time you were here is the other child? 13. Okay. So last time you were here, I'm just doing the math here. Last time you were here, you didn't have a teenager last time you were here? No, I didn't.

Okay. So welcome to that. Okay. So I'm actually going to get to your jams right away and we're going to catch up like between the jams because everybody wants to know what you've been up to. Recently, you had a very high-profile television appearance for a couple of weeks we're going to talk about. There's lots to talk about with you, mainly the jams.

But I wanted to start things off. Oh, man. Maybe a little Gordon Lightfoot chatter off the top before we get to your 10. Yep. Did you ever have the pleasure of meeting Gordon Lightfoot chatter off the top before we get to your 10. Yep. Did you ever have the pleasure of meeting Gordon Lightfoot? I sure did. I was at an event at Queens Park, was it?

And he was there. And this is quite some time ago. I was still married. So it was like 20, I don't know, 10. And he was there. And I have loved him my whole life listened to him as a kid my parents loved him my parents were got to go to his house for a party in the 70s by the way was that on the bridal path or was he living somewhere he's in the bridal path now but his longtime place was rosedale. Wow. That was the 70s place. And so my parents were friends with people in his band.

They went to a party at his house. They said he had a big butler that they were calling Lurch. Remember Lurch? Of course. The Munsters or Adam's family? Adam's family. I met him. So I saw him at this event, and I never would bother people for interviews.

I said, Mr. Lightfoot, I'm a huge fan. Is there any chance I could do a sit-down, sort of more in-depth interview with you? Yep, just like that. Wow, I heard he's a sweetheart. Oh, he was lovely and gave me the information, who to contact. We set it up. I ended up doing it for 16x9, the news magazine that was on Global, so we could do a longer, more in-depth.

Saw him play in Kitchener as part of it, talked to Ronnie Hawkins as part of it, talked to Jim Cuddy as part of it. Nice. And then went to his home in the Bridal Path area, a couple blocks from Drake, by the way. Yes, so I hear this is the place to be. You live on the Bridal Path as well, right? I would live, not even someone's garage, on top of someone's garage. The boathouse. Yeah, exactly. You're lucky. And he took me around his house. He has the names of all of, it's hard to use past tense stuff. I know, isn't it?

The names of all the men that drown on the Edmund Fitzgerald on his wall. Wall of people that he's performed with and met and knew. And it's everybody, everybody, everybody. Oh, and he was sitting with a guitar in his lap and kind of, you know, messing around with it a little bit. And he was saying he had it for such a long time. And he said, I wrote beautiful on this guitar. And I said, oh, you're kidding. I said, that was my wedding song. And he said, I wrote Beautiful on this guitar and I said, oh, you're kidding.

I said, that was my wedding song. And he said, what? Wow. And then he stopped and started playing it for me and singing it to me. Wow. Extraordinary. Yesterday I was driving up Bathurst Street

and of course it's the day after he died and so a lot of stations that wouldn't necessarily play him were playing him. Wreck of the End when Fitzgerald comes on, and I'm like, not me crying on my way up Bathurst right now. It's heartbreaking because he was a lovely man, an enormous, enormous talent, a representative of our country in the best possible way. So heartbroken, even though 84, man, not a bad run.

Gordon Lightfoot will be missed. I want to just tell the listenership, if they haven't heard it already. So yesterday, originally, I was actually not going to do any special episode for Gordon Lightfoot. I think I'll talk to Liza about it. And then as guests come in, we'll bring it up, of course, pay tribute. But then Gilles Leblanc in the Not So Secret FOTM DM group said, Hey, Mike, are you doing a special episode for Gordon? And I was thinking, well, like typically I aim at the Gen Xers

and the Gen X heroes, like a Gord Downie, for example. Of course, we're going to do a special episode. But I felt Gordon Lightfoot, I loved his music very much and I've been listening to a lot of it the last couple of days. But I felt like you and I are Gen Xers. It felt like we missed it. We were born too late for the heyday. So I just thought, okay, I'll leave that for like another podcast.

But then I realized I should phone Dave Hodge. So I said, Dave, do you mind if we have a recorded chat? Like just give Dave a heads up. I'm recording our phone call, Dave Hodge. And Dave said, give me a call. I'm just waiting like for my car. And then I called up Dave Hodge. So there is like a beautiful 30-minute

conversation I had with Dave Hodge about his friend Gordon Lightfoot and we played Dave Hodge's favorite Gordon Lightfoot song of all time. And that's in the feed, the episode before this one. So that would be 12.48 to hear Dave Hodge talking about his friend

Gordon Lightfoot. So that's what you're going to listen to on your drive home, Liza. You're going to listen to Dave Hodge talking about his friend, Gordon Lightfoot. So that's what you're going to listen to in your drive home, Liza. You're going to listen to Dave Hodge talking about, you'll actually, you'll tear up in that one too. It's actually, it's actually beautiful. Okay. So I promised myself we're going straight to the jams, but can you remind me last time you were here, did you get fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery when you were here? Heck yeah, I did. Did you enjoy your fresh craft beer? Very much so. And I'm typically not much of a beer drinker, but every once in a while, a cold beer just hits it. Yes. With something salty. No, I'm with you a hundred percent.

Absolutely. So just to tell people if they want to hear the original deep dive with Liza Fromer, that's where we do like the A to Z, the ongoing history of Liza Fromer as of like August, 2016. Doesn't Alan Cross have something? Are you allowed to say that? Chorus owns it. I've had this chat with Alan. If Alan leaves Chorus,

he has to have a new name for his podcast because Chorus owns that name. Oh boy. Okay. August, 2016. Liza was here. That's episode 189. And the description I wrote at the time is that Mike chats with Liza Fromer about her years on breakfast television.

We're going to revisit that between jams here because you've been on it again since then. Globals, The Morning Show and so much more. We talked for 92 minutes last time. So you're going to leave with more fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. But you're also going to leave with a large frozen lasagna from Palma Pasta. Amazing. So you're going to leave with a large frozen lasagna from Palma Pasta. Amazing. So you're going to leave with food and drink. And I'll give you the rest of the gifts as we go on.

But you're leaving with a lot of swag this time. So we've come a long way since you were last here. Well, thank you very much. I was saying I have two kids. The almost 17-year-old boy is 6'3 and can eat. Oh, my God. Well, he won't be able to finish this lasagna. He'll be close.

I bet. You'd have to watch his head down here. Okay. Liza Fromer. Are you ready to kick out the jam? Yes. guitar solo Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'm up here sleeping Ain't it good night, honey Oh, since I set my eyes on you Round up, kiss, we can do anything right, little honey

Oh, since I set my eyes on you I'll tell you the truth Twisting like a flame in a slow dance, baby You're driving me crazy, come on, little honey Come on now Fire, smoke's in the horizon Fire, yeah, smoke on the horizon Love it. Liza Fromer, the cult firewoman.

Talk to me. Criminally underrated band and lead singer. Ian Asbury, unbelievable. That song, the minute it starts, you and I, we're both doing the head. We got the head going. It's a jam. And man, it hits me, right? Because when I started high school, there was no bigger band at my high school than the cult. Yeah, well, that's part of it. I can quite vividly remember being in the stands in Cameron Heights Collegiate.

The senior men's volleyball team would crank this when we were playing a game against another team and come out for their warm-ups. So all of a sudden you'd be in the stands, then this would just rip out of the speakers. They'd come running out and start warming up. And I was like, do I go to the coolest school on the planet? Shout out to school. What school is this? Cameron Heights Collegiate.

Cameron Heights Collegiate. Whereabouts is that? Kitchener, Ontario. Okay, that's why I don't know where the heck that is. Yeah. Shout out to Kitchener, Ontario. Beautiful. Yeah.

And so that was, every time the cult comes on, I can see it. One of the players on that team was a guy that I had had a crush on since grade 7. We're now talking about, like, grade 11. Right. Wow, that's four years. I just did the math. Yeah, yeah. And so it just, it's such a fond memory to me and just brings back, like, I can feel,

I can feel the emotion of sitting there getting excited. And I just honestly think that the cult just can rip it up. I remember they played once at Super Skate 7 in Kitchener. Wow. And their opening act was Guns N' Roses. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me right now, Liza Frommer?

Are you kidding me? And guys from the school had gone, and they said that they were like, we partied it up with the opening band. I don't know, and they were trying to remember their names. They had partied it up with Guns N' Roses because they were like, I think they may have gotten booed

at Super Skate 7. You know, that's unbelievable to hear these stories. Like, you hear about, oh, yeah, this is, there was like, I don't know, Nirvana was playing Lee's Palace or whatever just before they break or whatever. I just will tell you,

so the previous jam kicker on Toronto Mic was a guy you might know, Rick Campanelli. Oh, of course. So Rick the Temp kicked out the cult. He kicked out Wildflower. Yeah. I think there's something about if you're a Gen Xer, like you were saying,

and you came up in the 80s at that very vital time where you're getting your musical taste yeah like late 80s just pre-grunge or whatever like there was a moment where yeah like like Depeche Mode or whatever like there's sort of this this certain sound that we were like an alt rock sound that was uh permeating were you in high school were you a new waver or were you like a punk rocker or just like a straight ahead rock so i have i was very interesting my musical taste because when grunge hit i went all in on grunge but this is like 91 i'm gonna say but prior to that there was a lot of like uh guns and roses

i was obsessed with appetite for destruction spoiler alert we'll get to that yeah but like a lot of like i would listen i was listening to 102.1 so a lot of like the uh what they would call like the new rock the alt rock but also i loved public enemy so most often if you caught me my sony walkman had you know fear of a black planet or it takes a nation of millions to hold us back like i would put a cassette in my walkman and get obsessed with it for weeks like it was like i never i couldn't get sick of stuff and then somebody would introduce us like an album i missed like i remember my my buddy saying, you should hear London Calling by The Clash. And then I bought the cassette.

I stick it in the Walkman. And then weeks later, I'm still just spinning The Clash. So that was, I was kind of all over the place, I suppose, like most high schoolers. But I'm so glad you kicked that out. And Ian Ashbury, of course, has a Hamilton connection. We talk about this every time we kick out the cult. But for a lot of his youth, like teenage years,

he was living in Hamilton, Ontario, working at like a steel mill or something. Like he's got a huge like Ontario connection. No, he's not Canadian, but spent like sort of like a Keanu Reeves thing where Keanu spent like formative years in the GTA, well, GTHA for Ian because he was in Hamilton.

But yeah, so he's got this CanCon connection. Also, I'll shout out, I produce the Humble and Fred show now and I'll shout out, I produce the Humble and Fred show now, and I'll shout out Freddie P., whose snow removal machine is still requested. Every time there's a snowstorm, somebody wants to hear Freddie P.'s snow removal

machine. But thank you for kicking out the cult. That brings me right back. And by the way, I wanted to put in something from Fear of a Black Panther. Fight the Power was one that I was going to have on this list and then didn't. Okay, well, that's one of the great protest songs

of our time. Chuck D is an FOTM, by the way, like yourself, Liza. You're in a steam company. Chuck D and Liza Frommer have something in common in that they're both guests of Toronto Mind. When was he a guest? He was playing the C&E band shell.

Okay, so Flav couldn't get across the borderne band shell this is okay so flay couldn't get across the border okay this is what i've learned so so he called public enemy public enemy radio which was basically public enemy minus flay yeah which is good like i watched them live but it really i missed flay because i i saw them the last time they played they played at uh what's the one by the docks what's that place called? Oh, like a big bar? It's where the, yeah. It'll come to me in a minute, but there's a,

whatever they were calling that venue at the time, I saw Public Enemy, like the real Public Enemy. I mean, they don't have the same DJ because it's DJ Lord now. But they were great. Anyway, Chuck D and I sat down backstage, like I brought my gear and I set up all my stuff

so I could capture the good audio. And I set up all my stuff so I could capture the good audio and I set up behind the CNU bands the band shell and Chuck D we watched Mishy B perform together we watched Mishy me because she's an epitome and then he came back and sat with me and then I think he would have gone a long time but his his handler told me I had 20 minutes this was it you have 20 minutes and I'm like okay I have 20 minutes of Chuck D normally I'm like I, I got 90 minutes. You know what I mean? So it's like, okay. So I did, I did my thing and it was great. And, uh, 20 minutes is a long time. It depends how you look at it. Like, I guess it is a long time for somebody who's like, used to like, uh, mainstream media. Exactly. The three minutes when you go in on junkets and stuff, you've got three minutes.

Okay. Let's talk about that then before we get to jam number two, because a lot of people want to, want to talk about this. This has happened since you were last on. In fact, this happened very, very recently, but let's listen to this.

Liza Fromer, ladies and gentlemen is back. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, man. This is weird. Right? Everybody kept saying, is it going to be, are you nervous?

Is it going to be weird? And I'm like, it's going to be great, but it's also like going through a wormhole, you know, where you just get shot out the other side and you're like, oh, I'm back. Especially when that alarm goes off. I know, right? Liza Fromer, you spent a couple of weeks co-hosting breakfast television i need to know what that was like exactly like what i just said to some degree uh so amazing so if it did feel surreal to be sitting there and see like the logos behind me and say you know good morning

you're watching bt i'm liza fromer i'm like what in my own. I left 16 years ago. I started in 2021 or 2001. So it's Ann Romer, then it's Liza Fromer, and then it's Dina Puleze, right? Puleze, yeah. Okay. You know what? I've been butchering that for 20 years, I think. Okay. That's the sequence of events. It's funny. I told my wife who used to watch Breakfast Television when you were on it, and I said to her, Liza Fromer's coming over over and that's exciting and then she put on cp24 to catch up and then ann romer was selling like uh doors and windows like she does his ads like so she was i've seen that i've seen that once uh she's like do a spokesperson for like a windows doors place and she's on the thing and i go look

there's there's the og and i've got number two here so is is there, like, please help me. So Dina has basically resigned, right? Like she's no longer. So now they're doing like a rotation of guest hosts. Do you know what's going on there? Like, I guess I'm asking, is there any possibility? In fact, I'll give credit to Charles Brandt. Charles Brandt wrote me and said, when he heard that you were coming on and said,

can you ask her if she enjoyed filling in on breakfast television and if she's interested in the full-time job? Charles is it, did you say? Charles Brandt, in the full-time job. Charles, is it? Did you say? Charles Brandt. Yes. Prestigious name there.

Yeah, very nice. I absolutely loved being back. They could not have been nicer to me. Sid Cicero was welcoming from second one. Very supportive because, you know, I was getting used to it. You've got to get used to, like, the rundown again. Their specific clock that they used for when they do things all the you know minutia behind the scenes and he was

very supportive with that um would i want to do it again i i love it and you know there aren't a ton of things i'm good at so i should stick to the ones that i can kind of do. So that's a yes. I would absolutely think about it. I mean, it's not a proposition that's been put to me, so I haven't thought about it super seriously. You don't have a job offer on your plate that you're mulling over, but if one arrived, you would seriously consider it. Absolutely. So what time did you wake up for this two-week again?

Four o'clock. And what time did you wake up today? two week again? Four o'clock. And what time do you normally, what time did you wake up today? 7.45 because I was getting, I get my kids lunches already. No, no, my alarm goes off at 7.30 to get my kids out the door and all that crap. So I know that's almost the same deal. But that's given up like three hours

and 45 minutes or whatever. You would do that to be a part of that team again. Well, for the past many years now i have been basically a stay-at-home mom doing a little bit of work here and there freelance just small stuff but um ultimately i'm at home with my kids and during those two weeks i did it that was the hardest part was i'm not there in the morning at night. I'm tired. So instead of just being like, so available all the time, now suddenly I was either simply not there.

They might like that though. Yeah. Well, at teenage age, I know it might not be the worst thing except at like nine o'clock because all our bedrooms are side by side by side on the second floor. And so usually they go to bed around 1130, between 1130 and 12. Now at like nine o'clock, shut up.

Just don't close your door like that. Right, right. Well, are you a Leaf fan at all? Like are you a, not too much. Okay, well, because then you'd have to think about like last night, for example, like that game doesn't end till, I don't know, 10 o'clock or something so well that where i get caught up with that is succession okay but you got to watch it because you're already you're worried about spoilers right yeah i'm glad you brought that up okay so i'm in the same boat and uh there was i'm not going to spoil it because

i've actually i'm against spoilers even like people are like oh it's been two days it's like no i'm sorry like there are series out there airing right now that i do plan to watch i just don't like waiting a week for certain series. I like to wait till they're all there and I dive in. And I don't think it's cool. So I'm not going to, but I'm just going to say this. There was an episode, the third episode of this season had a, I'm just going to say, a significant happening.

Yep. Yes, it did. And my son, my oldest, was here and we were doing other stuff. I think we were watching NBA playoff. We were watching some stuff. And then, so I said, okay, I said to my wife, I wife I said we're gonna watch this Monday night okay so that was a plan but then uh very quickly and I didn't get the spoiler but I was basically made aware that there was spoilers about and like like a lot of people almost I don't know I would say almost

took joy and like going to Twitter and tweeting about it like right away what are your thoughts on spoilers like that's kind of rude, right? Like, it's one thing if it's a private message to your friend or a group that you're in. Like, I mentioned the FOTM group. Like, maybe in there you can do something or whatever. But, like, to go public, public web stuff, spoilers of that nature so early,

to me that's just you're being an asshole. You are 100% being an asshole if you spoil it on purpose. I spoiled it by accident. First of all, I think in my head, when it's the Zeitgeist show, right? Like everyone's watching. I'm thinking, and it's all over social, like this one, all over social media. I'm like, how could anyone not know what happened? But some people don't.

And so when I was filling in on bt they have a meeting a phone meeting at 4 45 a.m so to discuss what's coming up blah blah blah and but then you know you get into chit chat because you're talking about what we're going to discuss and i think i said something maybe about should we be talking about last night's succession on the air today not not in detail but it was so there's something to talk about yeah and then as we were chit-chatting and i won't spoil here but i just blabbed it i just said it you just said it said it and about three people including sid on the phone were like are you kidding me right now see but you know a lot of a lot of broadcasters i'll name somebody because we had an argument so if you go way back uh to uh gray's anatomy okay yes back but way back when there was

oh i can now i'll spoil it but like mcdreamy you remember mcdreamy on the gray's anatomy of course you do okay so raw my that's not me i don't care too much for gray's anatomy but my wife was big on the show at the time and she wasn't able to watch it in real time so there's a bit of a delay but the next morning so i don't know what day that aired at the time maybe it was sunday night i'll make that up but on monday morning ross weston of ross and mocha openly discussed the uh how the death of mcdreamy and how he died like the next morning like it was news like this was news that happened the next morning and i and he came on and i called him out and he said well no he basically said it's the same as news it would be like talking about a leaf game he says if it airs on a Sunday, Monday morning, he's going to talk about it.

He completely doesn't mind talking on the radio. So if you tuned into here, where is he again? Kiss. If you tune into 92.5, you would hear Ros Weston talking about McDreamy dying in a car accident. And it's all right there. And my wife got it. So it was spoiled for her and uh and i was it's interesting to have that conversation with a broadcaster like because you

guys could have talked about it like it was news but then you would have ruined it for a lot of people that's right oh that was the reason that was how i spoiled it um and i still don't want the la times put out can i say this without i mean you can say whatever you want i whatever you want. I don't want to spoil it, but I'm not going to edit this. If you spoil it, that's on you. The LA Times put out an obituary for the character. Right. But they put it out, I believe, you know, it's even worse. I think they put it out before it aired on the West Coast.

Oh, that's bad. Yeah, it airs three hours earlier here, obviously. And I think they had that obituary before anyone in California had a chance to watch it right yeah so for the for the character but yeah that's that's terrible um they're in la for god's sake no there's a time change but anyway yeah so i did spoil that unfortunately but so so the staying up late i'm a nighthawk right i love staying up late right I'm a nighthawk. Right. I love staying up late. Right. I often go to bed between 1 and 2 in the morning.

Okay. So that has always been hard for me over the three morning shows that I've hosted so far. But my dad would call me this time around. My dad is an early riser. How early? 3.45. What? Yeah.

Goes to bed at 7. Cannot keep his eyes open. Gets up at around 3.45. Clearly not a sports fan. He is. He tapes it, and when he gets up in the morning, he turns it on and just watches it, and he doesn't look at anything.

Okay, your dad's got to be himself, but that sounds crazy to me. Yeah, well, it's one of many, many unusual things about him. Let's talk about it. So he would call me every morning that I was filling in on BT. He was my fail safe. So I had all the alarms going off and then around 4. And at 4.15, he would call to be sure, sure, sure.

Are you up, Liza? Yeah, are you up? Were you on the call? He sounded much like that. Are your feet on the floor? Light on? All right. So that was the help. So what I've learned here today is that you have not been asked to become the permanent co-host to Sid Sixero on Breakfast Television.

But if you were asked, you would seriously consider it because you enjoyed it and you think you'd enjoy it again. Yeah. Has the show changed a lot since you were last doing that every day? Is the guts of it pretty much the same? Anything dramatically different? Yeah, there's still a few people there that are still the same behind the scenes as well, which was nice to see familiar faces.

Good. I think that the cool thing about breakfast television that's different from any other show, I think, in Toronto is the loyalty that people have to that show. I mean, people were tweeting at me that could still remember stuff that I had done on the show when I was there.

And they take it really seriously, regardless of whether it's me, whether it's Sid, whether it's Dina, the loyalty that comes along with being on that show and part of Toronto's fabric, not to be corny. No, no, it's not corny. Because you've been out of the it's not quite because it's, you've been out of the,

uh, the public eye for quite some time now, right? Like, so a lot of, there's probably many people that I invite you to my home. That's how I see Liza Bromer, but there are probably many people who tuned in to see you on breakfast television who hadn't seen you in a long time.

Yeah. And I, I'll, I'll be honest. I was sort of stealing myself leading up for social media because that wasn't a thing when I was doing it before. I mean, it was a thing when I was doing the morning show. They went to MySpace and talked about you.

Yeah, there you go. So I thought, okay, you know, social media is rough, rough, and just be ready and don't give it any mind. Everyone, I mean, everyone was lovely. I mean, I'm sure there were people who were like, get this chick off my screen, but they didn't say it on social media. They had left long ago, I think.

But that's good to hear. It was really, really nice that people were so kind about it and welcoming and all that sort of thing. Yeah, I had a great, great time. Okay, I'll make some calls. I'll tell you what, like, first of all,

the right people are listening. So they're listening now and I will see what I can do because I think you're fantastic. You know that. Let's get to another jam and we'll do more catching up. I realized I did get to the first jam right away as promised. And then I got sidetracked, but there's lots to talk about here. Let's kick out another one. ¶¶ Bye. I look at my keep and I look for the door Can't find my friends so I just take a little more

A little more And then It all Comes to an end We all go again. We all go again. Good times, all the time. Good times, all the time.

From lasagna to the fire. Now Liza, I'm going to be honest. So you gave me 10 jams and I loaded them up and listened to them all. And 9 of the 10, like hook it to my veins, like right in my wheelhouse. But this one was new to me. Like I actually wasn't familiar with this song. But because you were kicking it out and I was listening to it, totally dig it. What a great jam. But tell us what we're listening to.

So this is Wet Leg, Angelica. They have one sort of hit on the radio right now called Shay's Lounge. I believe they're from a small, like the Isle of Wight or something like that. I remember Jimi Hendrix played, not that I was there, but Jimi Hendrix played there. The Isle of Wight. I don't know if I'm giving the right spot, but like that vicinity and that idea. And so Wet Leg, I believe, stands for like someone who comes to visit, like you have to step in the water before you step on land.

So a friend of mine by the name of Nicholas Pickless. I'm also an FOTM and we talked about you when he was on Toronto Mike. Oh, did you? Yeah, because Video Arcade top 10. Of course. And clips. You didn't listen to Nicholas Pickless on Toronto Mike?

Oh my goodness. How long ago was it? I think it was a pandemic episode, I think, because he came in remotely from Buffalo. He wasn't in the studio. But I'll dig it up.

While you tell me more about Wet League, I'll find out when the heck that was. All right. So Nick just sent me something out of the blue and said, check this out. I think you're going to dig it. Now, the reason, one of the many reasons, Nick knows everything there is to know about music.

Like, everything. And years and years and years ago, I don't know what we were doing, but we were in a car together, and he popped in probably a cassette tape and said, listen to this song. It's so original. It's so original. It's so new. It's going to blow up. It's going to be fucking massive. And

he popped in Beck, Loser. Wow. And I was like, what is this? And so. Still love Loser, by the way. Oh, it's fantastic. Still in the world of words. And it hit about a month after he introduced it to me. So he recently, like in the past six months or so, sent me this song.

This also has a very 90s kind of vibe to it, right? It has a 90s vibe. And I will just give a heads up that basically this is by far the newest song we're going to kick out today. I wanted to put Monoskin on too, but they lost for another new jam. Okay. So maybe there's one more. Okay, so Nicholas Piccolis, just to give a heads up really quickly here, just because I dug it up.

He was on in 2021, so January 2021, only a couple of years ago. And that was episode 787. Mike chats with Nicholas Piccolis about his start in radio at CFNY, how he helped the Barenaked Ladies launch their career, his move to Buffalo, hosting Video and Arcade Top 10 on YTV, that's the Liza Fromer chapter, being on the air at Energy,

he was on Energy Radio on 9-11, so he was on the air. His return to Buffalo Radio, working with the Buffalo Bills and more. So that's a jam-packed episode, 81 Minutes with Nicholas Pikulis. One of the funniest, like just raw funniest people I know. Just can make a comment and you're on the floor. So witty, so smart.

Love, Nick. So anyway, he sent me that and then I started listening to more of it. And I just thought it was fresh. It was like it's a bop. You can't sit still. It's a good one. And it's good. And it does have that 90s flavor.

So is it okay if I roll right into jam three? Yeah, please. Since I'm talking that 90s flavor. So is it okay if I roll right into Jam 3? Yeah, please. Since I'm talking about 90s flavor. Oh, make me over. I'm all I want to be. I walk and study. In demonology. Hey, so glad you could make it

Yeah, now you really made it Hey, so glad you could make it now Oh, look at my face My name is mighty beyond My name is mighty beyond My name is never once My name's forgotten Hey, so glad you could make it Girl, now you really made it

Hey, there's only us left now When I wake up in my makeup It's too early for that dress Was it in Haley? Somewhere in Hollywood I'm glad I came here with your pound of flesh No second feeling Cause you're a star now

For Cinderella They aren't sluts like you Beautiful garbage All right, Liza, talk to me about Hole. Oh, I love Hole. I love Courtney Love. This song ends with, I'll hear it at the end You can direct me right You can literally say turn it up Mike And it's going up

I'll follow your lead Her last line about not selling cheap This summarizes to me so much What it's like to be a woman In any kind of entertainment related. But not just that. But for her, like, talking about, like, hooker, waitress, that's what you get to play when you're an actress in Hollywood. And, you know, glad you came here for your pound of flash.

Like, what it's going to take. And she's just badass. Like, she doesn't give a shit. And we'll just, oh, here we go. Is this it? You want a part of me? Well, I'm not selling cheap. Yeah.

No, I'm not selling cheap. Love that line. You want a part of me? I'm not selling cheap. You know, you talked about the cult being underrated. I am of the opinion Hole is criminally underrated. Absolutely. And like, so this is from the Celebrity Skin, but the Live Through This,

which kind of, you know, kind of came out just before Kurt took his own life. So like, it was like that. We were like, it was right at, I remember it was kind of like right that moment. It was almost like just as we were saying goodbye to Nirvana, we were kind of hit with live through this. Honestly, playthrough, every jam kicks ass.

I love Courtney, I almost called her Courtney Cox. Courtney loves vocals, like in terms of like in that grunge style. I think she's criminally underrated. And I will say this, what an actress. Oh, the People vs. Larry Flint. Phenomenal. Extraordinary. I love her.

I mean, I just was reading something this morning, yesterday, about Courtney Love and the people will still sort of say that she had some kind of responsibility for Kurt Cobain's death. There's so many stupid conspiracy theories out there. I'm not even surprised. And just another idea of placing liability, responsibility on women. Yeah.

Right. You know, and somehow the woman caused the problem and all of that sort of thing. And I think that she's put up with a lot of that because she just doesn't, she decides she's just going to do Courtney. She's not going to fit into anyone else's expectations yeah absolutely and uh I'm trying to think Courtney Love but uh you don't what is she recording anything anymore like do you know anything about like uh more recent Courtney

Love I don't know it's funny because I know we go back to the whole whole like I said I think they're an underrated grunge band and i think they were right they i saw them at did you ever see them live i saw them at the um at an edge fest at molson park and barry was melissa oftemeyer yeah yep she was with them at that time and uh again she was great it was a rainy cold i remember it was a rainy cold day at molson park but hole was great and i Alan Cross, we talked about him earlier, but Alan Cross has an interesting relationship with Courtney Love where they text each other and everything.

So if you want to get a hold of Courtney, I would go through Alan. I think he could hook you up. But it would just be like, can we hang out? Oh, yeah, another thing. So I just remember where I was trying to go there. But, you know, you talked about how people are, like, blaming Courtney for Kurt's suicide, right? Yeah.

Also, another thing that, and even I was buying into this a bit at the beginning, and I realized, like, I'm just, you know, contributing to this, like, misogyny. But people will say, oh, live through this. That was a great album, right? Of course, that's a Kurt Cobain album. Like, Kurt's writing all those songs and behind the scenes. And there's all these, know theories on that so people don't even want to give Courtney Love credit for that uh kick-ass album they they said that about Michael Stipe too I don't know if he

participated in but he and Courtney are good friends I guess and people yeah well Kurt wrote it all Michael Stipe wrote it all it's like yeah nobody can just give her flowers maybe Billy Corgan gave wrote it all yeah Yeah. Everybody in her circle. Yeah. But not Courtney, of course. Violet. There's a song like when, I could kick that out in this world. I mean, all, I mean.

Doll Parts. Yeah. Malibu. Oh my God. Okay. Love Hole. Thank you for that. So we're going to go right into this song because we have to serve the boomers now. Okay.

So you've been, you have a couple of Gen X jams. One, do i have a boomer jam what is it i can't even remember boomer jam oh but a great one and we'll talk about this love it too you have a couple of boomer jams because the next one's a boomer jam too. guitar solo Oh, the storm is threatening My very life to burn If I don't get some shelter Oh yeah, I'm gonna burn you to burn One, two It's time to shine away It's time to shine away

One, two It's time to shine away I'll be turning up Mary Clayton again in a bit, actually. But talk to me. Exactly. That's part of the reason I chose this. Do you know when she's hitting that note and her voice cracks, you can hear them in the background? Yes. I am like obsessed with this song

for that very reason. I think she's really pregnant too. Yeah, I think she was like nine months, eight and a half. But when she hitches her voice and we'll turn it up, you can hear, I think Mick goes, yeah! Yeah, you can hear, woo! Yeah, right. Yeah. I get chills. I got goosebumps. So do I. So do I. It's wild, eh?

It's so, and? It's so... And I guess they did a few takes and they took the one where her voice broke because they just like... And that was the whole thing. I think I have this right, that this song, like this album, was recorded somewhere that...

Like a big old mansion or something. And she was nearby or something? I think the original person maybe didn't work out and they got Mary Clayton because she was nearby. Is that, is this all? Maybe. That sounds familiar.

We're piecing it together here. But I, and I seem to recall that they wanted to record somewhere that was going to sound a little muddy, a little raw, not super studio produced. And I like it when bands do that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Like I don't want it to be too polished and overproduced. It doesn't have to be Steely Dan all the time, you know? Oh, see, are you a Steely Dan person? I feel like there's a lot of contention around that band. I am a Steely Dan. Oh, wait, wait.

Hold on. Hold on. Let's listen. It's just a show. It's just a show. It's just a show. It's just a show. It's just a show. There it is. Woo!

Fucking great, Liza. So great. Do you find yourself sometimes you're thinking of like Goodfellas or whatever when you hear this song? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are some that they are so intertwined. I think Martin Scorsese particularly loves Rolling Stone songs,

like a lot of his songs, like Mean Streets, a lot of his stuff. Didn't he do a doc on them? Yeah, yeah. Now that I think about it, he did. What happened to his SCTV doc

every time I think of Scorsese? I was in the audience watching that. Where's my record needle sound effect here? Yeah, exactly. I went with my friend Kieran Sells, who was a, I was in the audience watching that. Where's my record needle sound effect here? Yeah, exactly. What? I went with my friend Kieran Sells, who was a producer on The Morning Show and is now a producer at The Today Show

because he's a rock star. Amazing. And our other friend from The Morning Show, Mark Calamonici. The three of us went. We were in the audience. It's a brief pandemic. Winter Garden, Elgin Theatre. This is pandemic. Winter Garden, Elgin Theatre.

This is right. Winter Garden, Elgin. Or the Elgin. I always get them mixed up. Okay. And they were all there. Scorsese was there. They did the whole thing, the Q&A.

And then all of a sudden, it's gone. So I have a little insight for you. Oh, what? So first I had Dave Thomas on the show. Okay. To talk about it. And then I had Colin Mochrie and his wife, Deborah McGrath, who were there as well. But they were there as spectators, even though they both have SCTV connections.

They weren't on that case. But Dave Thomas, of course, key part of it all. So the consensus seems to be that Martin Scorsese got bored with this project and moved on to other projects. And it's sitting, maybe this footage is collecting dust on a shelf somewhere in Scorsese. Delegate, Marty, delegate. Well, this is it. So now I'm like thinking like, like set it free. Like we can't, because sometimes I wonder like, was it bad or whatever?

But then when I talk to somebody who was there, they tell me it was great. So Liza, you're now my official correspondent who was there. Like when you were there, were you thinking, oh oh this is not that great or did you think this is wonderful it was fabulous listening to them all talk and you know kibitz amongst themselves and do the whole thing and and of course also like and Rick Moranis was there I miss he was I'm was he yeah I'm told that's why it was special because he wasn't doing a lot of stuff. And, man, I miss Rick Moranis. Holy smokes, was that one of the absolute all-time talents.

Oh, I don't have anything from Strange Brew. I should have. I had that album. I'd kiss you if I didn't have puke breath. Oh, my. Yeah. Take off. Yeah, with Rush. Yeah.

Yeah, Getty. Take off to the great white north. Take Off. Yeah, with Rush. Yeah, Getty. Take off to the great white north. By the way, you can always come back at a future time or whatever and kick out more jams. Like, I just enjoy talking to people about the music they love. Like, you can just at another time, like, we'll book, I don't know, six months or whatever, you come back and kick out more jams. So you can pick up those ones you missed. But it sounds like the recording of this SCTV reunion went well and Scorsese

really does look like Scorsese got bored with the project and moved on to other projects. And I'm not particularly hopeful. I don't think we're I don't know. I don't think we're going to see that. Well, it is pre-pandemic firstly, so that tells you how long it's been. Yeah.

Think of all the other stuff Scorsese's, he's got a four-hour movie coming out. Like, he's wrapping up his four-hour movie. He's done a lot of projects since the SCTV doc.

Yeah. Set the footage free. Please. Set the footage free. Set the footage free. All right. Let's get to another jam and then more catching up here.

But I mentioned you had a couple of boomer jams and I mean that with all respect because there's a lot of boomers listening to us right now. I just mean these are songs that were big before Gen X was born, really. So here's another because you can't remember your jams.

Oh, I think I know this one. Is it Hendrix? Oh, you know what? You have a lot of boomer jams, I just realized. Okay, but this one's a... Oh, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young. Yeah, so let's listen to this and we'll talk about it. And I asked him, tell me, where are you going? He said, told me Said, I'm going down to Yastas

I'm gonna join in here off the lowland Got to get back to the land that set my soul free We are stars, we are golden the land that set my soul free. We are stars, we are golden, we are beautiful, and we've got to get ourselves back to the garden. All right, Liza, you were too young to be at Woodstock, but talk to me about this jam. I am a huge, huge Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young fan. I don't think I have any Neil Young on this list either,

which was, this was kind of my way of including them both. But I would have liked to have had some Neil. As you can see, I'm not a big ballad person. Yeah, but your songs kill. Thank you. And there are a big ballad person. Yeah, but your songs kill like just this way. And there are a few jams still coming up,

which I would put on my list of favorite songs of all time. I'm looking forward to the next the bottom the bottom half here. But tell me. So Crosby, Stills,

Nash and Young. I love. I mean, you can't resist the harmonies written by Joni Mitchell. Yes. You know that story?

Not until Do you mean her connection To Brian Nash? Okay well that for sure But Joni was supposed Joni's manager They didn't know Woodstock would be

Woodstock I guess And Joni's manager Wanted her to do Like a TV show That no one remembers Like in New York Or something So Joni never got

To play Woodstock Like She's kind of like a glaring omission when you look at the roster at Woodstock. Because Jimmy's there and Cosby, Stills, Nash and Young are there and a lot of big bands of the era. But no Joni. So she wrote it but wasn't there. She was never at Woodstock.

Then it's even more extraordinary how she captures the moment and there's just something sort of that soars about this song and right? We will have a million strong

And we just lost David Crosby. We did just lose David Crosby. You know what? I followed him on Twitter for some time and I had to stop because he kept talking about Neil Young and how that they didn't get along

or Neil wouldn't reply to him when he'd write or call and I thought, Neil is crazy private. Stop airing your dirty laundry in public. Of course he's not going to write you back. You're writing about it on Twitter. Right. Oh, he was a

crusty guy, this David Crosby. There was some of that infamous interview that went south, Molly style. And yeah, he's a crusty guy. Beautiful. I was thinking when Gordon Lightfoot passed away, I was thinking that there's, you know, because we've lost now, we've lost Leonard Cohen, we've lost Gordon Lightfoot passed away, I was thinking that there's, you know, because we've lost now,

we've lost Leonard Cohen, we've lost Gordon Lightfoot. Of course, Gordon Downey died way too soon. But now we have, like, there's only, there's these two Canadian icons still with us,

Neil Young and Joni Mitchell. Yep. Yep. Yep. And then I get sad, you know, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. I get sad thinking that,

you know, we all, we all die, Liza. And it's only a matter of time before I'm recording some tribute to Neil Young or Joni Mitchell. I'm going to, you know, shut the blinds, take the phone off the hook on the day Neil Young crosses over. Yeah, and he had a, I can't remember, was it a stroke or an aneurysm, but he had a health scare like, you know, several years ago. But I hear, again, back to Humble and Fred, but Freddie P,

he has got like a trailer in the Kawarthas that he frequents and he reports back that like Neil and Daryl Hannah are spotted often in the Kawarthas.

Oh. This is like a place they spend a lot, like maybe even more time there than the famous Neil Young Ranch. The Ranch in Cali. That's a couple I didn't,

when I guest-dressed. Yeah, they're married, I think. Yeah, yeah. Daryl Hannah and Neil Young. You never know. Because he was with his wife for a long time. Right. Peggy, I think.

Yes, Peggy. That's right. Okay. Love Neil Young. We share that. And I love that you love that song. And it's fascinating. Joni wrote that and was not at Woodstock.

Whole album. Deja Vu works for me. Love it. Love it. Okay. So I shouted out Ridley funeral home so let me give you the uh gift from ridley funeral home pillars of this community since 1921 the measuring tape okay i noticed there was a measuring tape here which i i actually love

having these oh i'm shrinking you're shrinking so what is that uh osteoporosis what causes i don't know my doctor didn't say she just I've always been 5'8". And then I went for a physical and she's like, 5'7 and a half. And then I think I even went down to 5'7". I'm like, no, no. But were you standing straight? Yes. Like as much as humanly possible.

Because you're too young to shrink. Like, I mean, we're almost the same age. We should not be shrinking yet. No, we should not be shrinking yet. But somehow I'm going to measure myself again. Measure yourself because the Ridley Funeral Home measuring tape is more accurate. If I could stand up straight, I would have you measure me right now. But I'd smash my head on that.

Yeah, you can't stand up straight here. Very few of us can. Shout out to Peter Gross. Okay. It's okay. He's in the Hall of Fame. I can make jokes about him. Yeah, that's a s that's like a that's

a sly like sidebar shot look you're not talking look i'm not i'm not tall like your son okay you're talking to a guy who's uh not particularly tall so i feel i can i can make these jokes all right now i want to give you one more gift before i kick out your next jam here and this jam i almost feel like i should grab the pennant i bought in 1988 at a head shop downtown it's around i might grab it during the jam it's for the next jam but first that is a wireless speaker are you serious yeah right here my glasses okay get your glasses on liza see this so this is courtesy of minaris it's a it's a quality wireless speaker because rob pruse is going to be reviewing this in a couple of weeks on toronto mic hold on hold on hold on finish your thing and then okay tell no i want to hear about you rob pruse has

triggered a memory i'm looking at this box and wireless speaker thank you you don't have to put on your naturally bold set i love this it's tiny which is so great i can take this that's what she said okay so you are going to use that wireless speaker to listen to season four of Yes, We Are Open, which is a great podcast from Moneris, hosted by FOTM Al Grego. Al's been traveling the country talking to small business owners

about their perseverance and basically grabbing their stories that inspire people like me, you know, small business owners. I'm an entrepreneur myself. Yes, you are. That's what I call myself. So I've been inspired by Yes, We Are Open.

There's a great new episode about a dog, a place that, a dog? I'm calling it a dog place. Check it out. Brand new episode dropped. The one before that features FOTM Ian Service, who I'm going to see on May 11th at 6 p.m. because I'm hoping Ian makes it out to TMLX 12 and all FOTMs are invited 6 p.m.

there's no Leaf game that night people were worried like what do I do there's a Leaf playoff game and now there's TMLX at 12 nope the game will not there's no Leaf game on that Thursday night so May 11th May 11th by the way if said that, I want to make sure I got that date right. That's for TMLX 12. It's May 11th. Email me or DM me if you want more details. But yeah, shout out to Moneris and that great podcast. So Rob Pruce. Rob Pruce. This happened last night. What? I, it's not, I'm over, I'm over. I know, but because you're a broadcast professional. Yeah. When I was in probably grade eight, best friend Leanne Hollins, she and I loved The Spoons. Okay.

Loved. And particularly loved Rob Pruce. I remember waiting at Sam the Record Man and Kitchener in line to get an album signed. Wow. And then in the dead of winter, my dad and mom drove us to Hamilton from Kitchener to see the spoons play in a celebrity uh volleyball charity match um loved last night for some reason i was looking at my twitter account and i was looking at something that i had posted about lightfoot i

guess and saw was seeing people who liked it and all of a sudden i see Rob Proust and I'm like, what? What? And I looked and yes, it's that Rob Proust. Last night. And I was quite pleased with myself. Okay, well, I'm about to impress the socks off of Liza. Because I consider Rob Proust a friend, like a personal friend. I've seen him in Oakville recently. He did a show at the Moonshine Cafe in Oakville. He's on my show, Toronto Mic'd every month for toast he's uh yeah good friend now and he listens he's gonna be listening to us right now

because he doesn't miss a toronto mic'd episode rob proof he played it i talked about tmlx 12 being on may 11th tmlx x which was our 10th rob actually made the trek because he lives in New York. He works on Broadway and stuff. He made the trek to Toronto. He's got family in Burlington, but he made the trek to Toronto to play live at Great Lakes Brewery for TMLXX. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yep.

And he opened with the Mr. Dress Up theme because he's all in on the Gen X nostalgia. And you might have gravitated, I think you might have gravitated towards Rob because he was much younger than the other members of Spoons. Because he joined Spoons when he was 15 years old. He's much younger than Gord, for example. Oh, wow. I did not, I don't think I probably knew that then somehow because I knew

everything about that band. Not the original keyboardist for Spoons, but he is the keyboardist for all the big hits. Oh, he wasn't the original? No, no. You know, replace somebody. He, and again, he was a prodigy. Like he was a piano keyboard prodigy that you would see on like CBC specials.

And at the age of 15, when he was far too young to get into any of these bars, he had to have like a special like piece of paper to get in, I guess. But he was playing for the, he was playing keyboards for spoons at 15 years old i think he was my first musical crush this is huge because mine might have been sandy horn with her crimped hair who i just got a photo with at the moonshine cafe and it was like i couldn't believe it was that moment of like oh here finally like it only took me 40 years but here i am i thought she was so beautiful and so cool with her crimped hair and and and the other guy that you know gourd he's a twin i didn't know that he's a twin i don't know one of them's a twin that's in the band okay wow look at this i love spoons i don't see any spoons here no one that's why you're coming back we

talked about okay you're coming back we both love spoons i was was actually at a dinner just yesterday chatting about spoons. Like this was the topic of conversation. We were running down the hits. Rob Proust does have a co-writing credit on romantic traffic. Loved it. Loved it too. In the video. I love the video.

Because there's a red rocket in the video. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. Look, Eliza, you got to kick out the jams with me every week. Okay. Let's get to this jam though. Maybe during the jam I go get the pennant. I think it's around the corner.

Oh, okay. You ready? Yep. Oh, come on. Nice! Welcome to the jungle We got fun and games We got everything you want Honey, we know the names We are the people that can find

Whatever you may need If you got the money, honey We got your disease In the jungle Welcome to the jungle I'll be bringing you Knees, knees I wanna watch you bleed Welcome to the jungle

We take it day by day If you want it, you're gonna bleed But it's the price you pay And you're a very sexy girl It's very hard for me You can taste the bright lights But you won't get them for free Guns and fucking roses, Liza. Guns and motherfucking roses. You can't say that on breakfast television. No, you can't.

I wore this CD out. You had an appetite for destruction, Liza. Did I say this already? As you can maybe tell, I like the songs that just rip into it right out of the gate. I'm digging it. Yeah. I come from Kitchener, the land of Irox, you know, muscle cars and that sort of thing. I loved it.

I loved it the second I heard it. I was at the end of high school, beginning of university. Played it and played it and heard it. I was in the, I was at the end of high school, beginning of university. Played it and played it and played it. It was kind of, you know, when they hit the scene, you thought,

and you can see in this video, Appetite for Destruction, he's got the teased hair and we're still like flirting with the sort of hair metal crowd. But they're so, I mean, slash the musicianship

is that guy. Come on. His mom designed the costumes for David Bowie and people like that. I did not know that. Yeah, true. Slashes. Do you remember the TV ad for the Deadpool? No.

Oh, the movie? The movie, yeah. Because this is where I first heard Welcome to the Jungle. It was in the ads for the movie Deadpool. And I'm like, what the fuck is that? Isn't that recent-ish? No, no. This is like 86.

It's early, actually. Anyway, the Deadpool featured Welcome to the Jungle in it. And then I was, at the time, I was listening to the Top Ten at Ten. I think Shirley McQueen was hosting it on Q107. Shout out to FOTM, Shirley McQueen was hosting it on Q107. Shout out to FOTM, Shirley McQueen. But the songs from Appetite for Destruction started appearing on the top 10 of 10. And I loved them all. I mean, Sweet Child of Mine is still an anthem.

But the one I always loved, and I want to shout out again, Rick Campanelli. Yeah. First of all, do you know where you are, Liza? Hold on. Rick Campanelli kicked out Paradise City. You guys have parallel lists, actually. You're in the jungle, baby. It's a playthrough.

There's so many big jams on that. And fucking kills. Appetite for Destruction kills. It's just, it would truly be one of my Desert Island albums. If I had a couple of albums, Appetite for Destruction would be it. One of them for sure. I love it. So, is this your favorite Guns N' Roses song?

Yep. Why Am I Alone? Have you seen them live? I have a picture with Slash. What? From a Velvet Revolver show? No. Way back when I was working for Q.

Of course. Okay, you're right. You know what? When I was driving the cruiser. Sometimes I forget. You've done so many things. I sometimes forget. Of course, you were driving the cruiser for Q.

Yeah, the community cruiser. So they were playing, I want to say, at Exhibition Stadium. So this would have been like early 90s. Okay, so Exhibition Stadium. Yeah. Is that possible? That makes sense. I don't know when they stopped doing concerts at Exhibition Stadium.

I know the Blue Jays move out in 89. This would have been 91-ish, probably? 90, 91? It's possible. I'm not gonna... I think it's possible. I don't think they had torn down the grandstand yet. There was probably concerts there. But that would be like the Use Your Illusion tour? No. Because Use Your Illusion comes out in 90, I think.

Or 91, maybe. Really? I think 90 or 91. That seems early to me, but maybe. I'm googling it, because I remember getting it. That was one of the discs I bought opening first day. I had to go down to Sam's and pick that up. Yeah, the double disc, right? Yeah. Use Your Illusion 1 and 2.

Use Your Illusion came out. Okay, drum roll, please. I probably have one loaded up. 1991. I'm not kidding. Maybe they were supporting that album then. I don't remember. But regardless.

I got to go backstage. You got to meet slash to you know how they do the meet and greets backstage sometimes and essentially they kind of just wheel whoever it is it was just slash no axle kind of pop them into the room click click click take you know pictures with all the a and r people or you know whoever happens to be there this photo somewhere okay do you want to hold my uh so i know i realize now this is an audio presentation A&R people, you know, whoever happens to be there. Do you still have this photo? Somewhere. Okay. Do you want to hold my, so I realize now this is an audio presentation.

And meanwhile, I went and got this pennant. Okay. So I have to describe what happened there. But I bought this at a head shop downtown, like on Young, I don't know, Young and Wellesley or something. This is a pennant for appetite for destruction. In fact, I used to have it hanging up, but when the kids were small, it used to scare them because of the skeletons. They were afraid it used to scare them because of the skeleton. They were afraid to come in the basement because of the skeleton.

This is the sort of thing one might use as a curtain if one found themselves in university in a dorm room. If you want, I mean, you don't have to, but when we take our photo, we take a photo after every episode. You can hold up the pennant if you want. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be exciting to me to have Liza Fromer holding my pennant. Happily. We both loved Appetite for Destruction. And it was great to kick out Paradise City with Rick.

And now I get to kick out Welcome to the Jungle with Liza. I'm having a good time. Me too. This is great. Okay, let's go right into the next jam. And then we'll catch up more. And then, so just so I'm looking here. So I see there's at least,

there's two more Gen X anthems to come and there is another Boomer anthem to come, but they're all kind of anthemic. I'm really digging this. Here we go. You don't have to take this crap You don't have to sit back and relax You can actually try changing things I know we've always been taught to rely

Upon rules and authority But you never know until you try How weird it just might be We came together so strongly Are you gonna try to make this work? Or spill your tears down in the dirt? Cause your dreams can't change That's a wild game of tumbling down The Style Council. I love them so much and have since high school. Here's a trick question.

Who's cooler than Paul Weller? Nobody. That's right. That's why it's a trick question. Paul Weller is my dream man. I love that man. I could never meet him in person because I'd keel over and faint and feel like just such a dork.

I couldn't. He's so cool. This song, I chose to analyze for an English class in about grade 11 because they're talking a lot about we had to choose something and explain the words. Sure. And so this whole song is about, you know, workers' rights, unionizing,

not taking bullshit from the man, quote unquote. And I think that more than ever we're seeing that as we see, like, you know, corporations, whether they be news, whether they be commercial, whatever they be, becoming these enormous conglomerates where we just have no choice but to deal with them. And they kind of set the rules for how your life's going to go, what wage you're going to earn, what hours you're going to work from, and from where will you work. going to earn, what hours you're going to work from, and from where will you work.

And I like this song. It's like, you don't have to take this bullshit if we all get together and, you know, make it change. Love it so much. So, okay. So, I guess this song's mid-80s. But I feel like this might be

an example, because I know I said we're the same age, but you might have a couple years on me. Only a couple. I'm 1970. 53. Yes. Okay. So I'm 74. So there's four years. But I feel like I missed this. I missed this band. I feel like I missed the style. What? I know.

Well, this is the land of real talk. Oh, my friend. Oh, I know. But I don't know. Sometimes I've been known to have blind spots and I don't know how to explain them. Like, how did I miss this thing? But I actually. What about the jam?

The jam? Yeah. See, I feel like it maybe it's because at that time I'm listening to like, I don't know, Tina Turner and I'm listening to like, like Madonna or something. Like maybe I'm into like I'm to CFTR at that time. Right. Which is our top 40 station at the time. I listen to CFTR and CKCO. Tom Rivers in the morning. And I woke up to it before going to primary school.

Wake up to Tom Rivers. But I loved it. And I mean, now I'm like, I missed, I feel like I missed the Style Council. But this is the nice thing about you kind of introducing me to something I should have caught in the 80s and might have missed. That now I can go back and like uh like just dive in and

there's a great documentary on the style council as well like and how you know starting in the gym and then becoming style council and what it's a great documentary but please the next time i come back yeah i will come back on condition that you've listened to at least four more style council songs okay deal deal okay did you you know i told you to watch your head when you got down here and you did a great job of watching because you would hit it but i have a sticker like you'll see there's actually a i know you don't have to get up and see it except you'll see it's a warning a warning to a warning to check your head because oh i see where you're going here. Nice segue. I've done better. Because of how much I adore this trio

from the Five Barrels. I love this trio. But this song that we're going to kick out, not from Check Your Head, it's from the next album. Ill Communication. Oh my god. Why am I talking about it? It's your fucking jam.

Let's kick it. we'll talk about it let's go I can't stand it I know you're bleeding I'm a sin and shame This water deep I can't stand What you're living in here Cause you're crystal

All ain't so crystal clear So why don't you sit back And wonder why I'm not this fucking Thorn in my side Oh my god It's over I'm telling you I'm gone and my son, oh my God, it's sunrise. I'm telling y'all it's sabotage.

So, so, so, so listen up, cause I can't say nothing. You shut me down with a push on your butt. But you, I'm out And I'm gone I tell you now I keep it on and on I don't actually want to fade it down. Can we just listen to the whole thing?

Sabotage. Man. Love it. Beastie Boys. I think I do that after every song. Because I just love it. Well, you know what? You better.

You know what? I might not love all your jams, but you better love your jams. You know why, Liza? I love my jams. These are your jams. The Beastie Boys. What can you say about the Beastie Boys? Like, just some of the best to do it.

Revolutionize some of the style. Everybody respects the hell out of them. I watched their induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame back in the day. Who inducted them? LL Cool J and somebody else. I can't remember. From the Def Jam, I don't know.

Was it Chuck D? I don't know. It's completely escaping me now. So one thing I love to do occasionally as well is go back, go onto YouTube and watch them perform this song on Letterman. Right. And they just let the scream rip and they just kill it.

It was Chuck D. Was it Chuck D? LL Cool J and Chuck D. Yeah. And the things they had to say about this band when they were inducting them. Adam Yowch sadly was not there. He Yowch, sadly, was not there. He hadn't passed, but he was very ill. When I was in high school, I worked at Fairview Park Mall in Kitchener.

Started in the taco stand and then moved my way up to the fancy sporting goods store called Hackett's, where I sold shoes, among other things. And when the manager, I was in high school, so I'd work in the evenings. When the manager would leave around 6 or 6.30, we had a little cassette machine, and we'd play music, appropriate music. The minute she's out the door, fight for your right. Bang. License to ill.

Just pounding through, and then ladies bringing in their teenage daughters to get her a tennis skirt, and it's just nothing but the beastie boys screaming through the store love it yeah love it it was a great hybrid because this is i think beastie boys might be responsible fact i've always loved when rock met rap like when these two genres collide and there's a whole bunch of examples run dmc and aerosmith for sure and absolutely for sure and then of course uh bring the noise with anthrax with public enemy but there's a whole bunch of it. And the whole Judgment Night soundtrack. Okay, just hook that to my veins. But I love it when the hip-hop elements show up in the rock songs.

And Beasties, man, they were great at that, like bringing in some scratching, some hip-hop elements into their rock. Sampling, a lot of sampling. So Paul's Boutique. Someone said they couldn't afford to release Paul's Boutique today. I guess the licensing changed or something with all the samples, but just great.

And that brings you back to Chuck D. You want to talk about sampling. Man, the bomb squad on those albums we talked about, it takes a nation of millions to hold us back in fear of a black planet. Unbelievable. Oh, but yes,

I can't believe it's been over a decade since we lost Adam Yock. It's unbelievable. He was younger than we are now when he passed away. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. And again, one of those things, and I totally get it, where that band's together since

their teens, right? Or before even. And friends. And once one of those people is gone, it's over. There's no finding the new guy. No, you're right. This band is never is no more never to be again and i think there's something in adam's will that says they're not allowed to license their music for commercial purposes like i think that's in adam's will

he was all tight with the dalai lama yeah free to bet yeah i learned everything i learned about uh that i learned from the beastie boys like it totally was a raised awareness for me I had no idea what was going on there absolutely but yeah it's crazy to think he passed that long ago and that there will be no more Beastie Boys music ever ever ever but they have left or they have created like a spectacular

catalog what a band okay oh speaking of artists who passed away too young actually that's the rest of your, speaking of artists who passed away too young. Actually, that's the rest of your jams are artists who passed away way too young. I didn't only work for Q107. I listened

to Q107. They let you listen to it too. I'm still that classic rock girl. Well, here, let's just close with the 27 Club here. Let's kick it. Let's kick it. There must be some kind of way out of here Say the joker to the thief There's too much confusion

I can't get no relief Businessman there, drink my wine Plowmanman dig my earth None were level on the mine Nobody up in this world No reason to get excited The three big collies fall Might be the greatest cover of all time, actually. Wow, tell me.

I often say, no way this isn't the greatest cover of all time, actually. Wow. I often say, no way this isn't the greatest cover of all time. You can put Aretha Franklin's Respect up there, too. But one of the greatest covers. Okay, okay. That's the best argument I've had this conversation with people. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. And that's actually the best argument made yet is Respect.

Because even Otis was like, it's not my song anymore. That is respect. Because even Otis was like, it's not my song anymore. But yeah, talk. But let's leave Aretha and let's talk about Jimi Hendrix. I just love this song. I love the energy of it. For some reason, whenever it plays, all I can picture is like a car,

like kind of Thelma and Louise style, driving really fast beside a train. I don't know why, but that pops into my head like you're trying to keep up with the train. It's like a dusty road. That's what comes into my head. Also, when someone does something better than anyone else, I'm fascinated by that. And I'm not

a musician by a long shot. I don't play an instrument. I can't read music. But I would have to say there has been no one better than Jimi Hendrix at playing the guitar. There just hasn't. That man could shred. In front, behind his back, with his teeth, on fire. No arguments here.

This is the car and the train part. This is where I see the car and the train. Car speeding. Car speeding. car in the train. Car speeding. And then as it's going, when the music kind of kicked now, the train's pulling away. I don't know why that always is in there. Interesting. Maybe you had a fever dream. And it's stuck. I like to watch sometimes, if I'm bored, I'll go down the rabbit hole of first time hearing, you know, on YouTube. So I like watching people hear certain things for the first time and watching some people watch Hendrix play for the first time. Their face is like, what? But that, you can't. The only person I can think of, again, as a like armchair non-expert,

that seemed like the guitar was just an extension of their body was Prince. You know, I knew you were going to say Prince. Did you? I was going to call it out, but I'm like, no. Yeah, Prince. Stop interrupting this poor lady. But you're right. Yeah.

You're absolutely right. Yeah. Especially in that he was doing, was it a George Harrison tribute? And he's on stage with like Tom Petty and Danny Harrison or? Yeah, it's funny you mentioned, because I was going to bring up that exact same performance too, where he just, all these great guitarists on stage and Prince blows them all away. It was wild. Like.

It was wild. To the point where they're all looking over kind of smiling like, what is happening? All right, and here's a connection here. Okay, so now you mentioned George Harrison. Now I'm thinking of the Travel wilburys and that makes me remember of course well he's still with us but bob dylan that's a bob dylan song of course so jimmy hendrix covering bob dylan bob dylan who absolutely adored gordon lightfoot i i read it you know i was reading the quotes from bob down he said like there there's not a single Gordon Lightfoot song that Bob Dylan doesn't love.

And when he's listening to Gordon Lightfoot, he wishes the song would last forever. He had such praise for Gordon Lightfoot. By the way, on the Pirate Stream, live.torontomic.com, when we were kicking out, here, let me get the right quote, Style Council, When we were kicking out here, let me get the right quote, Style Council, Canada Kev said that we should play. You should know that Paul Weller does a great cover of Early Morning Rain. So Paul Weller doing Early Morning Rain. Oh, so you can dig that maybe on your drive home. That's what you're listening to.

OK, so before we kick out again, we're not leaving the 27 Club. OK, we're going to stay there for the final jam. Another anthem, if you will. Oh, I know what it is. But I'm going to. There's enough clues for you there. Yeah. But I am going to let you know, Liza,

as you, you know, hopefully Breakfast Television does the right thing and makes you an offer and we get you back there with co-hosting. Hopefully that happens. This is the time that Liza Fromer needs the Moment Lab because the Moment Lab specialize in public relations. They have a team of experienced professionals who know how to craft stories that resonate with your audience and generate positive media coverage. I'd be happy to introduce you and anyone listening to Matt and Jared at the Moment Lab.

They have a great team there. And you can learn more about how the Moment lab can help you achieve your public relations goals and just before i press play on liza fromer's final jam but you are going to come back at some point and kick out more jams because you're very good at this oh my gosh thank you yeah there's so many i feel like where's prince where's madonna where's duran duran i'm a girl of the 80s but then also like where's miles davis he's one of them he's another desert island kind of blew that album i actually had it on the list the first track and it was like 10 minutes long we can always truncate it or whatever but because you mentioned i gotta tell you my duran duran story real quick because that was like my maybe my first favorite band like i

remember buying rio on vinyl and it's like the big thing for me like it might be the first thing i bought myself uh was real from i loved it but i still remember being so disappointed when i bought seven in the ragged tiger yeah because reflex didn't sound like the reflex i loved and recorded off the radio and so so because there's a nile niles roger uh remix that was the one that we were hearing on the radio for Reflex. So on the album it sounds different? Right. I'm blowing your mind here.

You have to actually get the Nile Rodgers Is it Rodgers? I think so. I know. I hear myself saying Rodgers and I'm like I think there's an S there. I think there's an S. Nile Rodgers who of course... Genius. Yeah, he's absolutely a genius. And he worked with Spoons, I want to say, on an album.

Yeah, I think he produced a Spoons album. But okay, we're all over the place, Liza. That's what happens here. But all this to say is that the album cut of Reflex is not nearly as good as this remix that I loved by Niall Rogers. That's what I wanted to say about Duran Duran. I vividly remember that video

and there's just one quick shot in like a when they hit one of the chords, whatever, where John Taylor turns his head and looks to the side and oh, my heart would just swoon back in the day watching that. Watch out, Rob Proust.

There's some competition. Yeah, exactly. I was a big John Taylor girl as well. I feel like there are multiple Taylors in Duran Duran, and I feel like they were unrelated. Correct and correct. Isn't that wild? I'm trying to think of the other one.

Yeah, there's multiple Taylors. Andy Taylor. That's right, and then no relation. Okay. No relation. That's like when I found out from Dave Hodge yesterday that Tara Lightfoot was performing a Gordon Lightfoot song for Gordon. Of course, Tara Lightfoot, no relation to Gordon Lightfoot. Okay, last

shout out to recyclemyelectronics.ca. If anyone listening has any old antiquated electronics technology, maybe an old phone or a printer or a TV or some tech, don't throw it in the garbage that the dangerous chemicals

end up in our landfills and it's no good for Mother Earth. Go to recyclemyelectronics.ca and find out a place near you where you can safely drop off that old tech, those old, your old boombox, Liza, if it's no longer functioning. Although I would just set it up as like a decoration piece if I had an old boombox hanging around. God, we're so old. I wish I kept my old boomboxes. No, we're just nostalgia. Well, this is the home of nostalgia. Okay, let's kick this jam.

You ready for your final jam, Liza? Know it, love it, play it. guitar solo Light up our guns Bring your friends To fun to lose And to pretend She's overboard Selfish And all I know

Is dirty love And all I know Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello, hello Hello, hello, hello, hello Well, the lifestyle is the dangerous Here we are now Entertain us

I'm a stupid And contagious Here we are now Entertain us I'm a liar I'm a viner I'm a skater I'm a fiend

Yeah Hey I'm a skater. I'm a skater. Yeah. It's a bit cliche to be going for Smells Like Teen Spirit. But what I was thinking when I was putting together this list is I'm not going for deep cuts necessarily like we're talking about favorite favorites so I will be listening to this song at you know God willing 95 in the home cranking it every all my neighbors getting mad should they still have their hearing but I don't know like I was right in the wheelhouse. Like you were saying, I was 23

when Kurt Cobain killed himself. So like, I was my early 20s when they started to explode. And, you know,

this song, like, I don't know what I was watching, VH1 something or something about 90s music and how we had gone

from like the mid to late 80s hair metal. And then this shows up and just blows the whole thing up. Now we got to start all new. And like Motley Crue and Whitesnake are like, what the fuck just happened? Poor Poison. Poor Poison.

Poor Rat. What was Brett? Yeah, way cool. What was Brett Michaels going to do when... When this came out. Right. Nothing, man. You're right. There were two options for those hair metal bands.

They could wait it out, because if you waited... I guess you had to wait a while, though. Wait a while. 15 years or something like that. And then you could come back again. Or you could try to change your style. I remember at that time, like, a lot of these hair metal bands were trying to sound grungier. Yes.

You know, removing the eyeliner and going down to their local Goodwill, um, but to, to find a flannel. Uh, yeah. So that blew that up. And then we rolled into like, you know, Mudhoney and Soundgarden and started doing that whole thing and getting Pearl Jam. Oh, I would go to the Phoenix with my buddy, Paul McGuire. Do you, have you ever had Paul McGuire? I would go to the Phoenix with my buddy Paul McGuire. Have you ever heard of Paul McGuire? No. Is he at the news station?

Yes, I heard. I had Wayne Webster on the program. Anyway. Talk, talk. He and I have been friends since we did clips together for YTV. I'd have him on. Get him over here. He's a Britpop guy.

Okay, yeah. But he does a lot of country music as well. He does country radio as well. I don't want to talk about it. I want to talk about Britpop guy. Okay, yeah. But he does a lot of country music as well. He does country radio as well as... Well, I don't want to talk about... I want to talk about... I don't want to talk... Anyway, he and I would... Yeah, Britpop. He and I would go to the Phoenix and dance on the weekends.

Can I ask you which night? Because I did too. Oh, weekends. Okay. Or maybe Thursdays. Who knows? Do you remember Monday nights was Strange Paradise, which was a Q107 presentation, and Andy Frost would be the guy.

I do, but I would go on Martin Streak's night. Okay. Martin Streak was doing it. Of course. Live to airs. Yes, absolutely. You need to listen to the Party for Marty, which I recorded in the lobby of the Opera House about the 10th anniversary of his passing

when so many of his friends and colleagues showed up to pay tribute. You've got to listen to that episode. Yeah, that was shocking. I think for us, you can't point to anything even similar to that. Just the whole way. Let go by the station after 25 years.

He had the station's logo tattooed on his ass. I got that from David Marsden. So I guess two months, approximately two months after he's let go, he posts a Facebook post, which is essentially a suicide note, and then he taps out. There's nothing like it. And we talk about that while we kick out a song

by Kurt Cobain and Nirvana. And Kurt, of course, also took his own life. And Kurt was even much younger. He was only 27. Yeah, awful, awful. But those nights that Martin would host, I remember he had like a kind of goatee beard, but it was all braided.

I think maybe it was Trent Reznor doing that at the time, or he was a Nine Inch Nails guy, I believe Martin Streak was. Big time Nine Inch Nails guy, yeah. And I didn't know him well at all, but lovely guy. But my buddy Paul and I would just be jumping up and down to like Rage Against the Machine. That was big. I know all these Mosh anthems because I was there too.

And yeah, this was one we just heard. When Smells Like Teen Spirit came on, it was slow, fast, slow, fast. You knew when to Mosh. It was amazing. And I just love watching Dave Grohl give everything he's got. Like, he doesn't hold back anything

when he is drumming. Phenomenal. You didn't hold back anything, Liza Fulmer. I loved this. So did I. Flew by. We didn't do 90 again, did we? Yep.

Holy smokes. Oh, I'm sure I haven't even checked. It just feels like 90, but I'm going to say, yeah. So we're not even done yet. So this will end up being like an hour and 34 minutes. Holy moly, that flew by. You set a new Liza Fromer record.

And I'm serious. Get 10 more jams. Okay. Let some time go by and we'll miss you again. And then you come back and kick them out and we can find out what's going on with Liza Fromer. George Harrison, My Sweet Lord. That's another one. We got sued for that.

Oh, shoot. Because the Chiffons. George Harrison, My Sweet Lord. That's another one. We got sued for that. Oh, shoot. Because the Chiffons had the hit He's So Fine. Oh. And it's the same melody. Oh, my God. I never put that together. Yep. And they called it, I think they called it subconscious plagiarism.

Like it wasn't consciously done, but subconsciously done. Because he's George fucking Harrison. But yeah, those melodies are exactly the same. He's so fun. Yeah. My sweet love. My sweet love. Shoot.

Beautiful song though. Thanks for having me, man. Thanks for coming over, woman. All right. Are you going to hold the Guns N' Fucking Roses pennant? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Will we take our picture?

Even if we take two pictures. Okay. Then I have one of you holding the pennant. Okay. Yeah, let's do it. We're going to do it. Amazing. And I hope to see you back on Breakfast Television soon.

Oh, thank you, sir. Like I said, I'll make some calls. I can't promise anything. Let's see what's what. And that brings us to the end of our 1,249th episode. You can follow me on Twitter.

I'm at Toronto Mike. Liza, remind us if we want to follow your adventures. Are you posting anywhere on social media? I'm on Twitter and Instagram under my both name. I think Liza Frommer. Liza Frommer. Yeah, Liza Frommer. You're almost like, I know Liza Minnelli is a big famous Liza,

but I feel like you could go by just Liza now, especially when, I hate to say it, but when shout out to Ridley Funeral Home, when Liza Minnelli passes away, because Liza, but I feel like you could go by just Liza now. Especially when, I hate to say it, but when, shout out to Ridley Funeral Home, when Liza Minnelli passes away, because I don't think she's doing that well, you will be like the definitive Liza. Oh my God. Who else? Who else? Name another Liza.

I know. I can't think of any. I follow something on Twitter called- So drop from her. Like, that's bullshit. Yeah. You know? Right.

It doesn't flow. Well, it does flow. It's beautiful. But you could just be Liza. Like Madonna. Cher. Cher changed her name to Cher. That's what's on her passport. Cher. Prince. Period. Prince is his

first name. Yeah. For real reels. Yeah. But Cher legally has no last name. She's just Cher. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. So follow Liza Fromer before she just turns into Liza. Adele. What's Adele's last name? Adele. Do you know her last name?

I don't have a clue what her last name is. No one does. You're just Liza from now on, okay? Okay. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery, they're at Great Lakes Beer. Palma Pasta's at Palma Pasta. Don't leave without your lasagna. Moneris is at Moneris.

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if it happens, it's an absolutely top secret episode that you absolutely, I mean you can't miss this one with Liza kicking out the jams, but this next episode I'm going to record is like just trust me. Give us a hint Mike, give us a hint. No, you can't miss this one with Liza kicking out the jams, but this next episode I'm going to record is like, just trust me. Give us a hint, Mike.

Give us a hint. No, I can't even hint. No hints. Maybe after I stop recording. All right. See you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold

but the smell of snow warms me today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and gray Well, I've kissed you in France

and I've kissed you in France and I've kissed you in Spain And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Chaclacour But I like it much better going down on you Yeah you know that's true Because everything is coming up Rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold

But the smell of snow Warms us today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away Because everything is rosy now Everything is rosy Everything is rosy and great Thank you.