Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Lyricless Title Jams #TOAST45: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1755
Episode Date: September 2, 2025In this 1755th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 45th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette and a special surprise guest as they kick out songs with titles that don't appear in t...he lyrics. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, the Waterfront BIA, Blue Sky Agency and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com.
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actually I can probably hear
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no that's not me that's the wrong way
that's me that's good
thank you
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there we go
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I need to take a note
turn up Bob's headphones
every fucking time
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Today, returning for this 45th episode of Toast,
it's Bob Willett.
And back in the basement, it's Rob Pruse.
Hello, hello, hello, hello.
Excuse me, Broadway's own Rob Proust.
Would you like to be billed as broadway?
Are you on Broadway or off Broadway?
I'm in the pit.
I'm on Broadway.
This dude is not off Broadway?
Come on.
In the pit on Broadway.
Is that like a, that question?
inappropriate, like, how dare I doubt you?
Like, would you do off-Broadway?
Oh, yeah, I have done off-Broadway as well.
Sure.
You'd slum it off-on-and-off.
For the right gig.
But the distinction of between being in the pit and on the stage is nothing, is it?
Is that something?
No, I mean, no, because if you're a musician, you're lucky to be working on Broadway or
off-right or anything.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I feel free paid to be a musician in general, right?
I feel super fortunate about it.
So, yeah.
On Broadway.
That's right.
Does that song bounce around your head all day?
Nope.
Ha.
So that song.
has on Broadway is the name of that song, right? And that is a lyric in the song. So
today we're going to kick out songs, and I have some examples before we get to it,
but we're going to kick out songs where the title of the song is not a lyric in the song.
Right. It's a good topic. The Iris topic, because when I heard song Exploder breaking down
Iris, it was, by the Goo Goo Goo Dolls, Buffalo Zone. It didn't occur to me until I heard
it said aloud. I never really thought about it. Sometimes you don't think about what titles
have to do with the lyrics. But the word Iris does not.
appear in the song, Iris.
Yep.
Okay.
So this, I have crunched the numbers.
I want to do a little catching up,
but I'm going to explain
there's not much to catch up on
because this is the shortest time ever
between two episodes of toast.
And yet they're a month apart.
Well, technically.
September 2nd and August, what was it?
It was one week ago today.
It was Tuesday.
So is this also, have you had the same guests on within a week?
Ooh.
Yeah, I had back to back with Broad Black.
I think I had within the same week, Kevin Hearn.
Like two days in a row?
Yeah.
Like not just one episode or one episode recorded?
I just talked to Rob about this.
So if I had one episode, even if it was a main, like Brian Trache was three, three times we connected throughout the day.
Yeah.
And that was one episode.
If I record multiple times in a day, I make that one episode.
Rod Black was back to back two different nights.
Like we did part one and then the next night we got together and did part two.
Right.
That's cool.
So there's a different, yeah.
Okay.
That's different days then.
Two different days.
Absolutely.
But it is interesting that we recorded August's toast last Tuesday.
Just a week ago.
And here we are for September's toast.
Yes.
Well, you can really never have enough toast.
No.
Toast is awesome.
Toast, yeah.
I 100% agree Bob Willett because if, you know, sometimes these fancy brunches and stuff.
And all I want is like, give me a couple of slices of toast and maybe a little jam.
Sure.
I like, yeah, yeah, I mean, peanut butter.
I'll do honey.
Yeah, I don't mind some honey as well.
Do you like peanut butter?
Do you like peanut butter and honey?
I do like peanut butter.
So peanut butter and honey I like, but I don't actually like it on toast as much as I just like it on like a good piece of bread.
Okay.
Like a fresh piece of bread?
Like a fresh piece of multi-grained bread or something.
Let me smear on some peanut butter, but all natural peanut butter, like the kind that has to go in the fridge or whatever.
And some honey.
And I think that would be heaven right there.
Yeah.
It'd be hard to talk.
It would be hard to do the show.
Oh, yeah.
Peanut butter on the roof on the roof.
That would be a rookie mistake.
Yeah, that's right.
If we kicked out the jams with peanut butter.
I haven't.
What have I've eaten.
a banana so far today and
Rockstar Energy drink.
That's what I've had.
Crack that beer.
Is that an indie sponsor?
I feel like Bob's living off the freebies
at the Indy 88.
No, there's not a lot of it.
You know what?
The freebies are far and few.
I've got to be honest.
But you did say there was Great Lakes Beer there.
There was Great Lakes Beer there
when they signed to promote their event,
the big event.
Brood for You Fest.
Yeah, Bird for You Fest.
Which was last weekend.
And the fine folks at
the opportunity
in place helped me out a lot
oh my god
let's watch them like die on the vine
I know here
we'll insert this in post
no I know what is it
what are they called
they love this okay
yeah hang on
I have them right here
do they have their name
Hakeem
no it's not Hakeem
no it's smaller than that
okay
all right
Dresden
Dresden
Dresden there's one on college
and one on
on you know
Dresden I just watched
a documentary about
Eminem and it's called
Stans and they kind of
basically it's just about Eminem's whole career in life
but they bring in super fans that are like
stands of Eminem and he talks about
going back to Detroit to the home he grew up
in on Dresden like this was
the name of the street
interesting that's funny
I don't know just he said Dresden
and his house has got they condemned it and tore it
and tore it down yes
because he wanted to buy it but the city would not sell it
to him because it was condemned
remember that scene in Mad Men when he takes
the kids back to visit the house
where he grew up.
The whorehouse.
Are you allowed to say that?
Yeah, sure.
You just reminded me of that.
That whole was amazing.
Okay.
Sorry.
That's true.
It's still resonating in my head.
I love what it sticks with you.
Yeah.
It really does.
Right, Bob?
Like I, uh, sometimes I have a lot of shit to do.
And I'm like, I kind of want to just go for a bike ride.
And then I hear the character Fred.
Was it Fred?
Freddy saying, do the work, Dawn.
Like he comes in my, I can see him.
Oh, wow.
That's a Bill Murray's brother who played Freddy or whatever.
So these are these moments in Madman come back to me.
It's a show that
I mean that's a sign of great art
If it sticks with you
When you're not thinking about
When you're like it's just out of the blue
It's part of you
It becomes part of your makeup
Yep
That you just reminded me of a quote
Of something I was just listening to this week
And it was on like creativity
And like inspirational kind of stuff
And the quote from
I don't remember who the quote was from
He said if you work really hard
You might get lucky
There you go
Got to be prepared
Wonderful quote
Let me write that down
And attribute it to Rob Pruth
So everything is fucked
Oh, this was 10 minutes ago
wrote that.
Was that something we were talking about...
We were talking about this author, Mark Manson.
Oh, Mark Manson.
His book is...
The book is called
The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck.
Oh, yeah, I know him.
Yeah.
We were talking about long-form podcast.
He's got a new podcast series.
So let's ask a podcaster, Bob's basement.
You can subscribe today.
Loretta Swit was a previous guest,
and then she died.
Shout out of Lally Feeder home.
Yeah.
But, Bob, if you recorded...
Let's go back.
You recorded two and a half hours
of compelling, interesting content with somebody.
Okay?
would you drop it as one episode?
No, I'd break it up.
See, can you explain why?
Because I just, maybe it's many years and years in broadcast in mainstream broadcast,
but I just don't think people have that kind of time.
Don't they pause podcasts?
Yeah, but I'd rather, I'd rather have them choose to come, like, I'll let me choose when,
if they want to keep going, go for it.
But here's a great opportunity to take a breath.
It's just, that's all.
See, I feel like that's their choice to take the fucking breath.
Like, who are you?
you to tell your listener to take a breath. I directed the show. I, you know, I produced the show.
It's like, that's like saying George Lucas, who are you to end this, end this story? But would you
drop them at the same time, or would it be like a week apart or something? It depends on what
the situation is. I, you know, I may be, I may be giving more attention coming up to
the podcast next little bit. So I, uh, I'd have to think about it. I probably would, I'd spread
it out probably. It's sort of like chapters in a book. Yeah. But then it's like, oh, here's an
hour Bob's giving you of this guest.
You want another hour, come back in a week and I'll give you the other hour.
Yeah, but we all don't have, but we all don't have the base of huge numbers that you have
here at the Toronto, Mike, Empire.
But don't, wouldn't that, okay, I'm just, I'm only asking because our chat, Rob and I had
when we were waiting for you, Mr. Woodlight, is that, um, I can't remember how it came up,
but somebody was doing multi-part episodes, maybe? How did it come up?
Oh, um, was it the guy who, oh, no, it was history of rock music in 500 stories.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this, yeah, he's breaking down some of those episodes, and he's
but I think it's taking him so much time to finish them
because he does a lot of editing us, as you know.
Yeah.
It's not like us where he just, you know.
You just throw it up.
So I feel like he can only finish an hour,
so he'll give you the hour while he works on the next hour,
which is a different animal to me.
Right.
Okay, well, just an interesting discussion.
That's podcasters.
Would you, if you, see, if I had a five-hour episode of a compelling guest,
that's one episode.
Man, that guest better be amazing for five hours.
Honestly, man, like five hours?
That was episode 1,000.
Multiple guests.
That's multiple guests.
And also, I don't know anybody who sat in, like, I don't, I don't know, find me somebody,
if they sat on their own and listened to that for five hours straight.
But I don't, I don't have that expectation.
Like, so my point is if you had, let's say, three hours.
Wiseblot, Mark Wiseblot would come over once a month, you would do three hours.
It was going to be three hours.
Never did I have a moment of like, oh, this is a, that was compelling.
That was a two-parter.
Yeah.
And if you, you know, you're right, it's not for everybody, but if you're a Rob,
who enjoys the content or whatever,
you will decide when, like, what speed to listen to it at,
when you're going to pause,
when you want to break from it for a different show,
and you'll come back to it,
because you control your own destiny with the world of podcasting.
It's interesting to say that when you have 1,700 plus episodes,
but when you have 80-something like me or 90-something,
it almost looks, it feels better to be able to put that into two episodes.
So you're patting the stats.
It's not patting the stats.
It's still the equivalent.
All of my episodes are around an hour.
If somebody goes two hours,
I'm going to split it into two.
Okay.
Interesting food,
thought. Okay. Hey ref likes our video set up and just to tell the people listening. They hate or like?
No, likes. Because we have one camera on you two and you two fit in one frame right now. So don't move.
You kept trying so hard to get us into one camera. Because you distance yourself from Bob. I do. Does he smell?
No, he smells great actually.
Yeah, no. Well, then get closer to the guy.
This looks okay. I'm now, and again, I don't know why. I don't know why I have black bars on the side of my camera. Like, what is what aspect ratio are you looking for?
but I'm in like the middle center
and I think I will put this on YouTube
and I have toast over my head out
and okay so I want to just say hello to people
on the live stream
so that's Mike
that's VP of sales
although he calls himself
VP of no sales yeah do the work done
he thinks about that all the time too
and I do like I try not
I like to be a man of action
like Hamlet or whatever
so if I have a thought of my head
about procrastinating on some
crappy work I got to do
because there's fun work and then there's like
the media work or whatever,
I will hear that
Freddie say,
do the work,
Don, and then I'll do the work.
It's like, I listen to the guy.
Okay, and I know it's a voice in my head,
and maybe I should be concerned about that,
because I am drain damaged.
But Canada Kev is here.
Hey, also in the live stream,
let me know if you're going to be at the Who tonight, okay?
Let me know.
Moose Grumpy says,
hello.
I saw that Leslie was there.
Ward 044 says,
I used to miss all these live streams,
but I got a tap on the shoulder
from one of the banks in July.
and have been walking daily since then
and I've been catching up on many Toronto mic pods
always love the toast episodes the most.
Nice.
That's quite a thing.
Rob Delmundo was chiming in
with some of his favorite songs
where the title is not repeated in the lyrics.
So a lot of good people on the live stream
last week when we did this.
Oh, I see. VP will be at the Who tonight.
This is going to come up with a song.
I'm going to play in a moment that ties in with the theme here.
So I'm going to get to that in just a moment.
But last week, Rob, you were on Zoom.
So remind me what changed that last week you had to be on Zoom,
but this week you can be in the basement.
Yeah.
That's your turn now to tell me what changed in that one week.
Why couldn't you be in the basement last week?
Well, I explained, I alluded to it last week because we were getting settled into the run,
the Broadway Mamma Mia, and I had a substitute musician who was learning the show for me
to cover me when I want to go take a couple days off.
And she did a performance on the weekend, and then I was able to book her.
for this week, which is why I was like, peace out.
So she's, she's fantastic.
A friend of mine, Gillian Berkowitz is her name.
She's a great musician.
Any relation to Jack Berkowitz from Omni Jewel Crafters?
No, different spelling.
But I booked her right away.
Yeah, I listened to that while I was driving yesterday.
But anyway, so I'm able to take the time off and now be here.
And so my plan now is for the run of the show, which is about six months.
I'm going to be here once a month.
Yes, for sure.
And you also tie that in with a visit to mother.
See my mom and my sisters.
Yeah, it's great.
just here to see Bob and I.
No, but I'm so glad it all works out this way.
So are we, yeah.
Did you know there's a Burlington in a street called Burlington and Mimico?
Nope.
I bike it all the time.
I was on it today.
Burlington's in Mimico, and I think that would be near where VP lives here.
Cool.
So you listen to Jack Berkovitz?
I listened to some of it.
I didn't make my way all the way through it.
I sort of pieced out after a certain point.
I listened to this all the way through.
Did you listen to the next episode?
Yeah, I listen to this all the way through.
Now, I know Bob's busy.
He's on the air like eight days a week.
He doesn't have time, but.
Sophie B Hawkins
Damn
was on Toronto mic on Friday
That was the most recent episode
And I thought she was great
What did you think Rob?
I thought she was really charming
My favorite point was where she was yelling out
To her neighbors
I've got the wine
Like her South African neighbor
All of a sudden in the middle of your conversation
I'll play a little clip of my favorite part in a moment
Humble Howard Glasson is calling me
Oh wow
Do you want to answer it?
Why is he calling you?
He's calling you not me
You answer it
That'd be funny if you answered it?
That'd be funny.
If you want, sure.
Which doesn't matter.
Pause the recording.
Pause the recording.
Good afternoon.
Good morning, Hubble Howard.
This is Toronto Mike's answering service,
Bingle Bob Blett.
Oh my God.
Hello there, Mike's friend.
We're just currently recording an episode here with
Canadian superstar Broadway's own
Rob Pruse and sitting here
his phone rang and I thought I'd answer it.
Well, this is a lot to take in for an old man on a Tuesday morning.
It's time to get serious.
I think about you every day.
Every day after Labor Day, I think about time to get serious.
Well, it is time to get serious.
That's right.
Okay, well, does he have 30 seconds, or should I call him back later?
No, I can do it.
No, he can do it right now.
Oh, here, here, he's not to pass him over there.
There you go.
He's right there.
Bobby, my sweet love, mom.
Yes, I love you.
Mike, what do you mean me?
I didn't understand your note about the encoding on my image.
MP3s all of a sudden.
Yeah, I know.
It started a few weeks.
Here we go.
Real talk.
This is real talk.
We're currently listening to a Toronto mic having a conversation with Howard Glassman, also
known as Humble Howard.
They're speaking on some business matters, and we will rejoin the show shortly.
Please.
There's a setting somewhere with how you encode your MP3 where we have to change that or so.
He doesn't know how to do that.
It's technical discussion.
We're doing it the same way using that, using, um,
Howard is still asking a question
It's a technical question
Oh, we look fantastic on the live stream
Mike has technical knowledge that
Holder Howard does not have currently
So when they're done
We'll get back to our topic at hand
Again we apologize for the delay
In the performance
We will resume
shortly.
This is riveting.
As you know, Toronto, Mike doesn't do any editing of his episode.
I can't even love it.
And he prefers to have no cuts in his show.
Oh, that's true.
I want to feel edit this out for the actual episode.
Mike will keep this in.
Did Sophie B. Hawkins come into the basement?
No, it was live stream.
Oh, I'm surprised.
Yeah, he allowed.
Bye, love you.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
I'm surprised he allowed Sophie B. Hawkins to be streamed.
We now resume.
regularly scheduled luncheon. So Sophie came.
Is that still there? Okay.
Sophie came via a very famous, I think he's famous because of his Twitter account or sign,
but Eric Alper asked me, would you talk to Sophie B. Hawkins?
And because he literally drove Gino Vanelli over.
Yeah.
Some of my favorite episodes were like Eric Elper, I'm driving this person over.
So I said, as a favorite to him, I said yes.
Yeah. And it's Sophie B. Hawkins.
That's a huge hit.
Yeah, I don't know, like, I didn't know what I would chat with her about, but it was easy to chat with her.
Yeah.
You guys had a good repartre, raparte.
Reparte. Reporte is the word, yeah.
Rapporte, yeah, yeah.
I got a note today, I had a bunch of feedback from Jack and then also Sophie, and they were very different feedback.
But did you think Rob at any moment Sophie was flirting with me?
No.
Okay, I got a note today about how they think Sophie was hitting on me.
No, I think it's just the Raspi voice.
It's just, she probably, everybody probably thinks she's hitting on them.
Because she's omnisexual.
So she's only attracted to Omni Jewel Crafter.
Yes, exactly.
There you go.
That's right.
But no, it was a really good conversation.
And I was thinking about it, like, she's carved a career out of a hit song, which a lot
of pop musicians do.
And for her to, like, remain in the public's mind, as soon as you hear the name, Sophie
B. Hawkins, and if you were around in 1992, you're like, of course I know that song.
Yeah.
That's just, but her other song, which is what, don't, don't,
lay down. I forgot all about that one. Lay me down.
That was a hit. Yep, that was a hit as well.
And she said it was like on the charts even longer or something.
Well, I was on a different chart.
Like, it was on the adult contemporary chart or whatever for a long, like for over a year.
Yeah.
But this one was like a top 40 hit.
Yep.
This one right here.
All right.
So I'm going to play the little clip here before I give us an example of a song we might kick out.
Have a drink.
Yeah.
Okay.
So we have Great Lakes beer here.
The premium logger was sent over for a while.
Crack it on the mic.
There we go.
Thank you.
Okay, so thank you to Great Lakes Brewery.
Bob's got a Canuck Pale Ale.
Go ahead, Rob, Bob.
You have the same name, you guys.
Oh, lovely.
That sounds lovely.
Okay, I actually have to finish my coffee
before I crack one.
But this is a three-second clip
from the Sophie B. Hawkins episode.
Okay.
Do you know you're really handsome?
Do your listeners know that?
Oh, see, you're so funny.
How many times do you listen to that?
Oh, he looped that shit on Instagram.
Well, Instagram looped it for me.
Okay.
I made it my ringtone.
if you call me
when Humble calls me now.
How she's looking?
I got to see her.
You know, she's looking good.
She's about, she's 60.
She's almost, she's my age.
So, Rob, when do you turn 60, Rob?
In 23 fucking days.
Oh, wow.
So we won't see you again.
Next time we see you, you'll be a sextetarian.
It'll be a senior.
It's so weird.
When did the discounts kick in?
55, actually.
I haven't been taking advantage of them.
So, Bob, when do you turn 50?
January.
See, that's exciting.
The Kyle Stone birthdays is because I cleared mine a year ago.
and I don't have another one till I get to,
I guess, till I get to Rob's age.
That's exciting that you're going to turn 60.
It's not exciting.
It's fine.
It's a something.
Yeah.
I think that's exciting here.
Sophie Ballantine Hawkins.
Is Ballantine what it is?
I always want to say.
Valentin is her mom's name.
It's her Scottish heritage.
Wow.
Oh, that's lovely.
And you know what?
Doing that for Eric is great.
Eric is awesome.
Yeah, Eric.
And it was like,
I'll talk to him.
He gets a lot of heat online, man.
People hate him, but I like him.
But they hate him because he uses bots or he just repeats.
He just repeats.
He.
He schedules his stuff.
Like, it's not authentic.
It's all the stuff I hate, really.
It's like when, it's like an AI almost.
He was just, he was doing it before anybody else.
It was like, on this day, this or how many hamburgers can you eat?
But also, if you notice, he'll put up this thing and it'll get a huge response.
And he doesn't engage.
No, he doesn't at all.
But it's worked for him.
He's built the audience somehow without the, without the response.
I got him on CNN, okay?
Only the greats end up on CNN.
It's true.
I've never, I couldn't even imagine what that would do for my life.
I mean, you might be able to get out of your basement
if you keep going on CNN.
They haven't called in a while.
Bob, I have a question.
Yeah.
Your radio station, Indy 88,
did this countdown all long weekend.
Was it 500 feel good songs?
The feel good 500.
I look through that whole chart.
I'm not on that chart anywhere.
No spoons or no honeymoon suite?
Neither one.
But the rest of the chart is right.
I read nothing to do with it.
I know.
The chart is great.
Can I ask about this is,
so I'm asking this as a radio listener guy.
So I reel, we've talked quite a bit
about how the playlist on Indy 88 is more.
surfing before our eyes.
Absolutely.
More mainstream.
What would you call this?
I would call casting a wider net.
Okay.
But this chart, to me, there were songs that were being played in Indy 88 that I've never,
I don't think of ever been played in Eighty and they'll never get played again.
But that's my, and I wondered if it was somehow a gateway to changing things even more.
No, if you listen today, we're back to kind of what we were before the 500.
Look, here's the thing.
There are some hardcore indie, old school indie list.
who are very much upset with these changes.
But the fact of the matter is the radio station would cease to exist if they kept doing
what they were doing.
Shades of CFNY when they started playing Peter Gabriel and Madonna.
And then there was outrage from the court.
Right.
So, but here's the thing.
We know now because we have daily and weekly numbers, this last two weeks, we've been
the number one or number two radio station in the city.
And a lot of it has to do with some of the promotions we're doing.
We'll see what this week is like.
There's been some programming changes.
There's some other things going on that I'm not privy to.
I'm not in the programming department.
I can only do it as part of the team.
And I will be back on this weekend.
So, cool.
That's amazing.
I need to know what's going on.
Yeah.
As programming changes at Indy88, I'm naturally curious.
I'm not even here to throw stones.
Do I understand what you're saying business-wise?
Yeah, business-wise.
Yeah, as for the music and stuff, like I said, I don't really have anything to say.
I just, uh, I will, uh, I have a little bit of a reduced role right now, so.
The truth is you have to move with the time.
What does that mean reduced role?
I'm not doing evenings.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How many days a week are you on?
I said you're on eight days a week.
Yeah, not anymore.
How many days are you on?
Two.
All right.
When did this happen?
I feel upset.
Last week.
You didn't tell me.
I did not.
This is the announcement.
This is, there's, there's, there's things to be said still.
All right.
But I'm not.
Not saying them yet.
Is this because they played Bon Jovi yesterday?
Yeah, that's true.
I quit because, because no, yeah.
Knicklebacks.
No,
I actually don't
hate nickelback.
You know what?
Everything is in flux
right now.
And I have,
yeah,
it's,
we'll see.
I don't,
I don't really have
anything official to say.
You chose an industry
that's going to break your heart.
I fucking know.
Don't get me started.
And I feel like
you were working at that exhibition,
casino.
Casino,
yeah.
Like you had literally
accepted that radio
was done with you.
And then you got this
lifeline.
And then we saw Happy Ball
Oh, my gosh, yeah.
Like, he was so happy.
Yeah.
Bob's not happy right now.
No, I can tell that.
I can't get into the details yet.
All right.
But it's, uh, I'm glad we're here for you, though.
Everything's in flux.
Okay.
I know you can't say any details.
Does it have anything to do of the big change in terms of who's selling the ads on Indy 88 now?
There's no big change.
But it sounds like Bell Media is now part of it.
Bell Media does our national sales.
That happens at all small radio stations.
Well, that I don't know.
Oh yeah. Well, yes, it does.
No, no, I mean, I don't know that. Oh, you don't know that. Yeah. So what happens is your national sales,
if you have a smaller team like this, you can use CBS, which is actually run by Corr. Rogers.
You could use Bell Media, which is Bell. And there's one other, which is Sting.
I actually think, I actually think Stingray actually uses Bell Media as well.
So there's a relationship between all of them. That's boom, right?
Yep. And so they all, so yeah, our national sales will go through Bell, Bell, Bell,
will sell for us.
Okay.
Yeah.
On the national side,
because we wouldn't have that connection to those buyers on the local side.
Yeah.
I'm upset.
You're not on eight days a week anymore.
Yeah, me too.
Jeez, okay, we'll talk offline.
Okay.
Rob Proust,
what's the name of this booze song?
It's called like Baba O'Reilly.
That's it.
Okay, Bubba O'Reilly.
Everybody wants to call a teenage wasteland.
Yep.
It's a great example.
Do you know Bubba O'Reilly is not included in the lyrics to this song from the
Yes.
I'm aware of that fact.
Well, okay, we're educating somebody.
So this would have been an appropriate song to kick out during today's toes.
But none of us are kicking in that.
So none of us did, huh?
Apparently.
I wanted to play it because I'm at the Who tonight.
Nice.
You're going tonight.
That's so cool.
That was your $11 ticket.
I love that man.
Good for you.
2111 because they threw $10 and service charges.
So fun fact.
So I went to an event at, do you know where, maybe Bob, you'll know.
Do you know where Allen Burry Gardens is?
I've heard of it.
Alan Burry Gardens?
Ellenberry? I hope I said that right.
Alan, like, A-L-L-E-N, B-U-R-Y, not Allen Gardens.
No, I don't know.
This is a neighborhood near the Fairview Mall.
Okay.
I guess that's North York, right?
Yeah, Shepherd and Don Mills and Shepherd.
So this is where Snow grew up.
Yeah.
And he had a free party for members of the community to celebrate like a revitalization project that's been completed.
It looks really cool there.
And it's like bouncy castles.
And music and free barbecue and free drinks and free ice cream.
You had an ice cream truck there.
It's just, oh, so this happened already.
I went on Saturday.
Oh, okay.
Be careful.
Don't drink in Bounty Castle.
I love it.
I don't think they let guys like me into those bouncy castles.
But, um, okay, so all this I'm at, and I'm, I bumped into Paul Farberman.
Paul Farberman's sister passed away.
My sincere condolences to Paul.
And he sat Shiva for seven days.
Do you know about this, Bob?
sitting Shiva? I know about sitting Shiva, yes. I don't, I've never done it.
Have you visited anybody sitting Shiva? I have not. Me neither. I have. But he told me,
so Rob, he told me, because he's sitting Shiva for seven days. He says he gets one hour a day
to leave. Wow. And he chose to go to that event. Well, because he's close of snow.
Right. Right. Disappoint snow. And I bump into him and I, we were just chatting. I said,
I'm at the who on Tuesday. He goes, I'm at the who Tuesday. And then he said, I can get you into the
lake house. Do you guys know what the lake house is? Yeah.
Nope.
It's great.
Yeah.
So if you're looking at the stage,
it's to the left end over to the American Express,
uh,
lounges,
above it is the lake house.
Oh,
you're going to be there for the who?
Well,
he said,
meet me at six and there's like a little fair.
You take a little boat over.
You have a 30 second ferry ride.
Yep.
Yep.
I actually politely decline the invitation because my,
my feeling is I,
I kind of want to just bike over,
stand in the lawns and soak in Tom Cochran at seven.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I actually turn down the lake house.
Because you are a man of the.
Well, there's nothing free in the lakehouse either.
Like, you can go to the lake house, but it's expensive as hell.
I didn't really feel like having like a $65 burger.
Right.
Which is, yeah, it's a $35 burger, to be fair.
Well, if they put fries in there, maybe it's $65.
No, I've had it.
So I politely declined the invitation to the lakehouse tonight, but I will be on the lawns
with the other great unwashed schlubs and maybe the great VP of sales and Tom
Cochran, 730.
And then the Who?
And then the Who at 840.
Absolutely.
You know, all the concessions at the Live Nation venues are all done.
by Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, right?
It's like this evil cabal if you ask.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the amount of money that they make
is just ridiculous.
Bob, do you know this band?
Somebody's covering the move.
I like it, whatever it is.
Whoever it is.
One direction.
What?
One D.
Really?
Wow.
But that's the thing.
Oh, my God, that's funny.
This is not a cover of Bubble Riley.
This is their version of ripping it off.
Wow.
That's cool, though.
I like that.
Because when you know, you know.
Do they get a writing credit?
No, no writing credit.
The chords are different.
They asked Pete Townshend what he thought, and he said that, oh, we did the same thing
when we were starting out, we were influenced, and he said it was an honor.
Yeah, it's fine.
Most of the good ones do that.
Most of the ones who are, like, honestly, like, you talk to Tom Petty about the, you know,
the red-hot chili pepper is doing there.
And you know, who so's the motherfucking estates of the people who die.
It's the state to are dead.
Yeah, yeah.
It's true.
That's what I say.
themselves.
No, they're like, whatever.
Marvin Gay would have been like, it's fine.
I love it.
That's right.
And that one bugs me because it's a mood.
We talked about this on last year.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's a vibe.
It's not a melody they ripped off.
It's a vibe.
And I feel like that's literally what,
you remember when Weird Al would record a song
as if Devo wrote it, but it wasn't a Devo song?
Yeah, of course.
Ed Shearin said in the last time he went,
I think he was in front of Congress, actually.
And he said, if this keeps up, I will never make music again.
He said, this is, and like, he's like, there's, it's not,
it's not, I'm not copying anybody.
There's only so many chords
And we only do so many things
The only people who pretend to care are lawyers
Who don't know shit about music
And families who are greedy motherfuckers
No, it's true
I have an opinion about that
Yes, you do, as you should
Ed Sheeran is a stand
Yeah
And he's all over this Stan's documentary
Oh wow, I can't wait to see it
Eminem
Fun fact here
Okay, so I have one more good example
I just thought it was interesting
That this one direct stuff
Which is called Best Song Ever
It's got a whole
Best song ever I didn't even read the
I don't think I ever paid attention
to the opening before
I love it
It's like one of their first hits, I think.
Is it really?
I think so.
I don't know for sure.
I feel like Elvis is a big fan.
You know, I know, I know, I know, you know, I'm here is this from?
Early 2000s.
Oh, yeah, I'm not even early probably.
Those OO's that everybody's like Mugford and Sons and everybody's.
It's the best song ever
2015
Oh, it's the same era
It's the Mumford and Sun's era
Everybody's O-O-O-O-O-O-N
Spider-O-O-O-N.
Just another song I considered
I do love this song
This song is called
Bullet with Butterfly Wings
And there's no reference to bullets
Or butterfly wings in this song
So this would have been
an appropriate song to kick out as well.
I knew there was going to be
some Smashing Pumpkin song somewhere.
I didn't search deep enough to find one because I already had three.
So I noticed, let's talk about our process here because I realize there's so many
fucking rad songs that the title does not appear.
There's such a wealth of good material.
And some artists do this a lot.
And I feel like Smashing Pumpkins is one of the artists that likes to have the name of
their song, not be a lyric in there.
Bob, was it easy for you to come up with your three.
Yeah, I had two right away, like right, like immediately.
Like as soon as you said it, I'm like, okay, I know my first one.
And that's the one, the first one that I'll do that I thought,
for sure you'd caught me would have had as well here let's just share this so the first song that
after this iris inspired topic bob and i both thought of the same song did you oh yeah
in fact last week when bob said on the recording he said something like i already thought of one
in my mind i was like i was gonna say it i'm like don't don't spoil it that's funny and then i
actually when i i'm i came up of my three jams first i did not choose that jam because i said
you knew yeah you guys you're simple co-s simpa or just simple that's all but but
In this vein of a grunge, if you will, I just want to play a song here real quick.
And while this bruise, I want to say thank you to Palma Pasta.
Palma Pasta, been a great partner of Toronto Mike for years.
Yes.
Can't wait to return to Palma's Kitchen for TMLX-21.
I'll give you the date and time soon.
We're at Great Lakes Brew Pub for TMLX20 later this month.
Rob, are you going to be there?
I don't think so, unfortunately.
Yeah, I can't make that one either.
My wife's out of town.
Bob, who's singing?
Oh, it's Chris Cornell.
Sure is.
Yeah.
Okay, so a couple of things of this song.
This is early Soundgarden.
It's called Nothing to Say.
It was very early.
Is this a bad motor finger?
No, pre-badmower.
I love those
detuned guitars.
So I fucking love this song,
but I love Chris Cornell's voice.
I don't think there's a finer voice
in the alt-rock
grunge space than Chris Cornell.
So I wanted to let it brew
because when I heard this song the other day,
nothing to say.
Amazing.
So I heard this song, and I thought of Bob, because I think about Bob all the time.
Rob, don't be jealous, okay?
I can bike and see Bob.
You're a long way, wait, okay?
I was thinking about it.
But you don't.
But I was thinking.
I did once.
Yeah, you did.
Shout out to Chris Cooksey in the East York.
Oh, yeah, he's East York here not.
I'm south of the Danforth, so I am not.
Close enough.
Troy Birch and the G.
Rob Johnston's near there.
Yeah, yeah.
He's south as well.
Okay, so I'm listening to this song and I'm thinking about
because Bob made an off-the-hand remark a couple of toasts ago
when we were talking about Tiny Dancer by Elton John.
And I was talking about Almost Famous.
And Bob said, I hate that movie.
Am I misquoting you?
There's one particular scene that I hate in that movie.
That one?
It's with Tiny Dancer.
Oh, in the bus.
Yeah, and that knowing look at each other,
that Cameron Crow bullshit, like, smile.
I hate that scene, and it taints the rest of it.
of the movie for me.
That's what I said.
It's like a watered down version of
Wayne's World.
Yeah, just not a, yeah, I don't know.
It's fine.
It's just,
it was a little too earnest for me.
Yeah.
Especially given, you know,
like the cred that Cameron Crow gets,
I found it just a little over the top.
Right.
A little hallmark carty.
Yes, totally.
Which is fair.
Your opinion is your opinion.
So you don't like that scene.
I have the right to be wrong.
You can't be wrong in an opinion.
Right, Rob?
You are totally correct.
Thank you.
That's my opinion.
So I'm correct about that.
Okay.
So I was listening to this song
and it reminded,
me of a song, and I'm just going to play the song
that reminded me of, okay?
This sounds like Led Zeppelin
this one. Yeah.
It was a slowdown
My Hero by the Foo Fighters for a second minute.
So, Black Sabbath?
I do love that drum sound.
Not Black Sabbath.
I'm going to the live stream
to see if anybody can pick this up
Oh is this
This is not River of Deceit
That's not Matt Caesar
Oh no, this is this Andy Wood
Right?
Nope, that's not Andy Wood
It's not that new shitty band
out of Detroit
that sounds like
Led Zeppelin?
Nope
Right?
You know who I'm talking about.
Oh, it's from the movie.
It's the fake band.
Oh, God.
This is the fictional band
Stillwater.
Is it really?
The Millie Crut-up band from Almost Famous.
And it's their big song, Fever Dog.
Oh, wow.
So it was, like, written to sound like...
Yes.
Right?
It's got a bit of a Zeppelin thing around or whatever.
But it reminded me of the early Soundgarden.
Yeah, that's funny.
And I thought a Fever Dog, and then I thought a Bob not liking almost famous.
And it turns out is that one specific scene.
Yeah, that ruins the rest of the movie.
Which I can see that.
But that song introduced, or not introduced, but brought Tiny Dancer to a bunch of us people who were ignoring Tiny Dancer till that scene.
Sure.
So, like, I.
love, today I love unironically. I love
Tiny Dancer. That's fine.
100% because of that scene.
Well, unironically because of that scene.
Yeah. Unironically. There's no irony in here.
But you love it because you didn't just love it
already. He didn't know it really. I didn't really
know it. That's what he's saying. Yeah. Right, right, right.
So there you go.
His song blows. This Canada Kev.
Fever Dog. Canada Kev. What are your
thoughts on Almost Famous? I'm sure it's on Stella.
So here, while I bring
down Fever Dog, we're going to thank a few sponsors
and then we're going to kick out. And we're changing the order.
Okay.
I'm going first.
Oh.
And you know what?
Ready for a mind blow?
You're closing, Rob.
It's going to be me, Bob, then Rob.
I'm going first.
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That's where you go.
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Woo, here she comes.
Oh, my good.
goodness gracious. We had to say goodbye for
the season to Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. I heard that
on the Sophie episodes. I'm sad because I had
more books to give away, but that's
my problem. I've got to figure
that one out here. Okay. I would
like to give some love to Ridley Funeral Home.
Ridley Funeral Home, have a great podcast.
Rob, did you listen to the most recent episode
of Life's Undertaking. I sure did. Love it.
Thank you for the shoutouts. Yeah, we gave you some love.
It was really nice. I loved hearing that, yeah.
But I love your conversations you guys have.
Okay, so that's a big endorsement from
Spoons, keyboardist,
extraordinary, Rob Proust. He says, listen to
Life's Undertaking from Ridley
Funeral Home. Much love to Doug
Mills from Blue Sky Agency.
If you are looking
for dynamic and creative work
environments, Doug's your man at Blue Sky.
Write him, Doug at
bluesky agency.ca, let him know
your FOTM and chat
him up about what's going on.
I don't know, I can take both sides of the air show
argument. So, like, I can actually argue
passionately that we should end this now. And I
and argue passionately that this is kind of a fun thing
going on in our big city. Where do you
fall on the Toronto International
Air Show debate, Bob Willett?
I love it. I love it. I love it too. I love it. I don't care.
I love it. I don't care what everybody says. It's loud. I literally
the other day I was actually on the air down at the radio station on
Friday and they were, I had the window open in the studio. And I found
like, I'm a very basic, I'm a basic human being.
When a plane would go by, I literally involuntarily would go,
yeah! Well, you were probably hearing the F-35. So they were second, because I took
the kids to it on Saturday, but I
bike the trail and picked up every day, even the
rehearsal days, because they rehearsed on Thursday
and Friday. Yeah, they did, yep.
So I can tell you that they closed with
snowbirds, although they were kind of late.
So the snowbirds closed. But the
penultimate is this F-35,
the murder machine from the United States of
America, and it's fucking loud.
Wow. Like, it's way louder than anything
else. But, yeah,
okay, so that was a great event I
enjoyed on the waterfront this
past weekend. I do think it's funny.
Every time they talk about the snowbirds, though, in my head, I hear Anne Murray.
So there's that, I know, there's that split between the cool planes in the air.
And then snowbirds.
Wow.
You know what I mean?
They're called snowbirds.
Yeah.
You know what we need to do is a mashup between danger zone and snowbirds.
Right.
Bob, well, like you, I saw your performance at the second city.
Yes.
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Are they coming on board as a sponsor?
No, this is actually part of the Waterfront BIAs.
Oh, cool.
Because they're at One York.
They are at One York.
It's a beautiful facility.
Oh, man, that theater
is a male.
The John Candy Theater is amazing.
The main stage theater and the 73.
It's a beautiful.
That's cool.
And the food's done by Oliver Bonachini and it's not super expensive.
I might be spending some more time there again.
I love my time at Second City and I will, I'm looking forward to going back and doing some stuff maybe.
Nice.
Okay, very good.
I know, this is the second week in a row.
I had to like do a little vamp thing here, but.
Vamp?
You know that word?
vamp? Well, no, yeah, but not in the way
you're using it, I don't think. I don't understand. VAMP is
when you're killing time. Oh, really?
Is that true? Do you have a special guest
coming out again? If you were doing a live thing
and the band needed
a couple of minutes, because maybe the drummers
in the bathroom or whatever, they would tell you
to VAMP. Really? And that would mean
basically do some crowd work, do
some crowd work and kill a couple of
minutes. We do VAMP. We do VAMP's
on Broadway. The vamp is a part of the music.
Right. I was vamping last week. I don't even know
if you noticed. I was vamping. We got
one bar of music we're like okay
they're still acting they're still acting right and before you go on in the
song you vamp oh because they're maybe
they've missed a beat or something or a little well you
have a we usually a vamp is usually about
one or two bars long of music little simple
phrase and you you go over this
these bars until they're done their acting on the stage
because who wants to watch acting you want to hear music
right that's what I say yeah yeah so you vamp
until they're done and then you're like okay now we go on
a word for fabricating or patching
a term for a no I never heard that
I've heard about a vamp being a seductive woman
She was a tramp, a vamp, and a bit of the skin.
But I didn't.
And then apparently the section of a shoe's upper that covers the front of the foot is called the vamp.
Everybody knows that.
Everybody knows the vampire part of the shoe.
It's a musical term.
I did not know that.
Yeah, yeah.
Interesting.
Thank you.
Bob, you're going first.
I'm going first now.
I'm going second.
Oh, he's got another one.
All right.
So this one should be no surprise to anybody who's ever listened to me on this show or me anywhere.
This is the longest title in the Pearl Jam, in the, in the Pearl Jam.
In the Pearl Jam world, it's elderly woman behind the counter in a small town.
Whoa.
I seem to recognize your face.
Haunting familiar, yeah.
I can't seem to place it.
I cannot find the candle of thought to light your name.
Lifetimes are catching up with me
All these changes take place
I wish I seen in the place
But no one's ever taken me
Hearts and thoughts they fade
Fade away
Hearts and thoughts
They fade
Fade away
I swear I recognize
Now I think I may have kicked this out before
At least you have
Not on this show
But on one of the other shows
My chill ice is one of the songs
I would sing to my girls
They called it Recognize
Because I seem to recognize
So they want to, if I was going to sing a song to them,
it would be recognized.
Can I just see time in to say,
I also sang this to all four of my children.
And when I walk on Fridays with James out of nowhere,
I start singing this song.
Wow.
I fucking love.
It's such a great song.
Yeah.
I forgot all about this song.
Yeah, this was,
I changed by not changing at all.
I just,
I think it's a beautifully written song.
Yeah.
It was the first thing that came to mind because it,
it says, you know,
it's funny,
the title is elderly woman behind
so it almost
it's an interesting title
because it sets the scene
it evokes the picture
and then so it's like
you walk in
and then I see
I recognize you
you don't recognize me
and actually there's a really good
there's another host
on the radio
his name is Howard Stern
and if you heard of him
he's done some pretty great
interviews
I heard he didn't come back today
but he was scheduled
to be back after his summer break
and he wrote an email
to his staff today to say
he needs more time
I think there's some interesting
negotiations going on
Yeah, there are. Oh, yeah, there are.
I heard he's going to join Indy 88.
Yeah, yeah.
It's fine.
Maybe that's why I'm not on the air.
Yeah, so I just think it's, so Stern asked him, you know, I got to give Stern credit because he's fearless with questions.
Because he asks questions that are stupid sometimes.
They're like, you know, almost in the same way that Mike does.
And as a nice a way as possible.
With more listeners.
Mike has no fear on asking any question.
And whereas I get in my own head.
both things.
And he literally,
she's like,
so like,
tell me about that.
Like,
is it an old woman?
Like,
well,
like, as a fan
I'm like cringing
on behalf of,
but he explains it.
It's like,
yeah,
and he grabs the guitar.
That's so cool.
Yeah,
it's really cool.
So there you go.
That's,
there you go.
That's a hell of the listeners
that when I,
last week when you said
I thought of a song,
I thought of the exact same song.
That was the song.
That's it right there.
Oh,
yeah.
I knew it would be.
On two legs or whatever
where he says,
the longest title in the Pearl Jam
Cadillard twice.
That's etched in my brain.
Me too, yep.
Is that still the case?
That is still the case.
That is the longest title in the Pearl Jam catalog.
I love that.
And Bob is correct.
I have confirmed with my brain, who knows everywhere to that song.
Elderly woman behind the counter in a small town is not a lyric in that song.
That is a great example.
Amazing.
You guys ready for my first jam?
Yes.
I think we are.
What's going on?
Finally, the second week in a row, I didn't get to close.
I feel like I'm a closer.
What is he doing?
What is he doing?
You're now you're, now you're, you're Dwayne Ward for Tom Hanky.
Oh, I'll take that.
Do we want this fucking ride?
He beaters
She fears
She fears
He's coming home to box
room readers
On
I'm outside now
We're fair
Take care
Of all the women in
his life
Come on
Side down
Can it do you
I'm still
Oh
You're so wrong
You can never
make him to me
So
be alone
I'll be alone
I'm
One more
Try
Finally, I get to kick out of a song from Fluke.
Rob Pruse, I'll give you a hundred dollars right now, if you can tell me the artist.
Rusty.
Hold on.
Because
Venmo's okay
What?
You love the Rusty
And I know how much
You love the Rusty
So and I know the name
I'm too easy to predict
Because you heard too many hours of me talking
Fluke and Rusty are two words
That just go together
Right
That's the best part
But is it fair to say in the 90s
You missed
Oh he missed so much
The height of
I didn't necessarily miss it
It was just outside of my main sphere
Of observation
You know what I mean
You weren't seeking it out
And it didn't find
to you. I was absorbed in the world of musical theater because
it was a new world for me. So when you're hearing now in the headphones, what do you think of
massagy? I love it. Okay, Bob, what did you think of? I love this.
Rusty. I mean, Rusty was huge. I mean, I started working
at Edge 102 in like 98.
And so I was a huge listener before that. And that would have been a, and again, I was
there for the Edge 102 era. It wasn't 102.1 the Edge. I was, I was there for that very
specific era. And so I would have seen these guys several times.
seen all many times i mean rusty was at so many
they would have been they would have toured with all the guys that you know
the our lady pieces and the i mother earths and you know uh you know moist and
watchmen all the people who have you know i've graced the airwaves here with uh mike yeah
so so i'm very familiar with rusty so a couple of quick fun facts before i introduce a very
special guest for the second week in a row a very special guest is joining us i heard a last
it's not bob's a i i thought i did try to enter yeah i saw that i saw that i saw that
I don't even know.
I'm not even...
It's weird.
Yeah, try to get.
Obviously, the reason we haven't noticed is because I never opened the Zoom.
Oh, because it's in the Gmail.
It's attached to my Gmail, my Google Calendar.
That's what it is.
So, Fluke was the debut full-length studio album by Rusty.
Yes.
Came out in 1995.
This was one of the big singles off it.
Like, Wake Me, Groovy Dead, Misogyny, California.
I fucking love Fluke, as all listeners know.
An FOTM named Chris Wardman produced this.
Chris produced this.
Chris produces, I know.
Chris is an old friend of mine from the 80s with Blue Peter.
We were on the same record label, yeah.
And he produced that April Fool by Chalk Circle and so many great things, actually.
But enough of me.
Who do we have?
Who could it be?
Well, you don't know who it is, actually, because this person's never been on Toronto Mike before.
What?
Who can it be?
I know you're thinking.
Who do we have on the line?
Mr. Jim Moore.
Hey, Jim Moore.
What do you know about Rusty?
and fluke.
Well, I do know this, this might be of interest to Rob.
Yes.
And I went trying to find this.
That song, Misogyny, which was originally on the demo called Massage Me on it.
Oh, cool.
Well, before we got properly signed, we had a demo that ended up getting released.
Yeah.
Miller Genuine Draft approached.
us to do a beer ad which i cannot find anywhere for love or money which was shot at the boom
boom room in toronto where he used to always go hang out oh wow guess who one of the extras
was in that beer ad give me a hint can i guess take a guess yes sandy sandy horn very close
really gourdebb yes what was in the video god was an ex he stage diving on it and he goes
and he came up to us.
That's what, you know, I'm in the band myself, you know.
No way.
Way.
That's really.
I can't find that video.
I've been looking, you know, occasionally you go down the rabbit home.
Yeah.
I cannot find it.
I'm pretty sure it's a Miller genuine draft.
That is amazing.
They paid us a lot of money and that's what bought all the gear.
Wow.
That's so cool.
Like thrifties did for Spoons.
Oh my God, yeah.
We sold our souls in 1984.
Wait before it was cool.
That's right.
I'm confused, okay?
I had the band Rusty in the basement,
but you've never been on Toronto mic before.
I don't understand.
Yeah, I know it's because the band of Rusty's actually started.
It's the ashes of one free fall.
I don't know if you remember.
That's a long story.
But it was me, Ken, and our drummer.
And we wrote pretty much that first album as a trio.
Wow.
Well, we got Scotty from the Doe Boys on.
So I am.
So you were playing on that song we just heard.
That is correct.
That's so cool.
Congratulations.
It's amazing.
Thank you.
Love it.
I'm welcome.
And Jim,
I'm going to let the listenership know.
You're actually going to come on Toronto, Mike,
because you're so connected to so many great FOTM bands,
and we're going to have a longer chat,
but you play bass.
Among other things.
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, yeah.
Tell us what else you would play for Rusty.
Like, give us a little Jim more info.
Well, no, I was the bassist, and I wrote, you know,
we split it three ways.
We wrote all the songs.
I was a bassist.
But prior to that, I was a drummer, and that's what I'm doing.
Now, again, I play in bands.
In England, I play drums.
I was never a good basis.
Four strings, four strings, you use two of them.
You can't go wrong.
That's funny.
Chris Wardman always loved my bass playing for some reason.
That's amazing.
Jim, are you in England now?
I am.
I've been here for about 20 years.
Wow.
I can get just a little bit.
I can hear it too, yeah.
a little bit there. Yeah, I'm just looking at
you, I'm on your discogs page right now,
looking at your, uh, yeah,
yeah, at some of the stuff. So you're,
you're playing, uh, you're playing drums, uh,
with, with, with people right now. Like I see a high span. Is that
happening still? Or is that, yeah? Yeah, we've done two
albums, three pieces. I do that. I'm in another band
called the Dutch embassy. Their albums coming out. And yeah,
I play a lot of drums. It's pretty active music scene.
That's super cool. So you're, are you playing drums,
primarily do you are you playing bass or anything else then on like sessions and stuff as well no
you know what the last time i played bass i was in hellifax nova scotia last month with my
friend uh kevin who who's a big time actor now he's got a series coming out in a week
on bell called charles tm he's the star of that cool i went to halifax last week for personal
reason and uh he got me to play a little bass wow for a song he's releasing oh that's fun
so what can you share with us about the song i'm
kicking out here, misogyny, one of my
favorite rusty songs, but does not
the song, the word misogyny does not appear
in the lyrics. No, that
is correct. It's about, yeah, abuse
obviously. Yeah.
Because me and Ken grew up in
Nova Scotian, that's pretty rife.
That's pretty, a lot
of communities. Wow.
Pretty rough place. Rough places.
It can be. It's beautiful, but
it can be right. Fair enough.
What do you know about the video?
I know a lot of
about it. I was in it. I'll tell you one little thing, which have you seen where Ken is singing and it's got a little square and it says, I love possum?
Yes. In the video? That's a shout out to his dog.
See, this is this is the pop-up video stuff that us Canadians need. That's true. Because they weren't doing this idea.
That's from what it was Bruce LaBruce did that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Well, can I play a bit just to give a taste?
So, okay, so the art house film, if you will, by Bruce LaBruce that we get in misogyny is called Hustler White.
Tony Ward, which is Madonna's boyfriend for all he stars.
Right.
He plays like a male prostitute.
Yes, he plays one, yeah.
Okay, so I'm going to just, just a little clip to give a taste of this is from Hustler White.
Yeah.
H is for Hollywood.
the very letter fledgling starlet peg entwistle dramatically leapt from landing in a bed of cacti only to die of exposure three days later her cries for help lost amidst the cacophony of the creative city finally my world's favorite location and the starting point of my research santa monica boulevard
So this is,
And so this is, I was checking this out on YouTube about a week ago.
But this is some of Hustler White.
So how did that come to be, Jim,
that, you know, some Bruce LeBruce ended up.
Bruce LeBruce is a really good friend of our manager, Jeff Rogers, who you...
I know, Jeff.
She's an FOTM.
In fact, Rob Pruse put Jeff on Toronto Mike.
Yes.
And Jeff was my manager when I was 21.
And Jeff is the guy who introduced me to Jerry Levitan, the teenager who interviewed John Lennon.
I think the world revolves around Jeff Rogers.
Back to you, Jim.
He's the best storyteller in the world.
I mean, last time I saw him a couple of years ago in New York City, we had a nice catch-up then.
But, oh, that's a long story, too, about how we got him as a manager through Mike McCarty.
Oh, wow.
I don't know if you know him.
He's a huge music publisher.
He's a great guy.
And initially, Jeff Rogers did not want to manage me in Ken.
But anyway, so he was, yeah, so Bruce of Bruce was.
was involved with Jeff Rogers
doing movies and films
so he got him on board
to do our video
and what we did
we actually shot
the clips
you know the stuff of us
miming
that's actually done
on Hollywood Boulevard
for me it was like a dream
come true
and then that was
cut it up with the film
that is done in Los Angeles
as well so
so I was reading
like an old blog post
from a gay man
who was talking about
the video from
misogyny and in his words he said this was the gayest video much music ever played
yes that's great i was pretty shocked actually played it you know i guess they just wanted to
i mean they were so supportive of us i mean we got we won some awards there and they played our
videos they actually it's off the top of the song empty cell yeah from the next album
they just loved playing that that that did so well they actually asked us to re
recut a different video so they could play it longer.
Wow. That's cool.
So we did another, yeah, I mean, they were so supportive.
And let's not bury the lead, Jim, but when I saw Rusty at Sneaky D's, last time I saw them
at Sneaky D's, I got to shout it out during an empty cell.
And Ken shouted me out in the crowd.
So that was a dream come true.
That's so cool.
Jim, Jim, can I ask you just quickly before we would let you go there?
I'm looking on your Instagram there, and I see you're hanging out with the rival sons,
who I got to know at 94-9.
the rock a little bit when I was
the music director out in Oshawa.
Did you work with those guys or are you just a fan?
No, no. No, I didn't.
I'm just such a massive, massive fan.
Yeah, they're great.
A drummer, Miley.
Yeah.
He's inspirational.
Oh, cool. Yeah.
For me, and that singer,
we go anytime they play,
they play just down the road,
Fokston recently.
Yeah.
They just,
the whole thing lifts me when I see them.
I find really inspirational.
They're terrific.
They're one of the, they're like a good little beacon of hope in rock music right now.
Yeah, rival sons.
I think so.
They're legit.
They sound good.
They're not derivative of other things.
But they're also not so they're not that active rock so heavy.
You can't listen to them kind of thing, you know?
I like them.
I like them when I was at 9 to 4 and on the rock too.
Yeah.
And I recently saw the singer Jay Buchanan does say something.
Yeah.
It's a completely different vibe.
But it's so good.
I'll have to check it out.
I didn't know he had solo stuff.
For a current, for me, for a current band,
not a, you know,
a traditional, the old school band,
which I love, Cheap Trick.
He's the best singer for me.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, no, he's got a great voice for sure.
I got to listen to more of them because I know.
The rival sons.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Amazing.
Jim, what's your relationship like now
with the current members of Rusty?
Oh, really?
Great.
There's been discussion.
It comes and goes about that they want to put
They've had a couple offers to put the fluke out in vinyl.
Because obviously the mid-90s was the height of compact discs.
Yeah, they wouldn't have made them an original version.
No, no, it didn't.
So there's interest from a couple of labels.
I actually had to pursue that again.
Speaking of Jeff Rogers, contact me a little while ago about doing that.
So hopefully that'll see you the light.
That'd be great.
Well, shout out to Jeff Rogers.
He also worked very closely with Erica M.
Yep.
Yes, I used to hang out with her back in the day.
all this Toronto stuff
yeah sorry
she used to do those road shows
where she played videos
and stuff yeah
Erica Mike Koski
I think she went on the road
I think I know this
because I follow her on social
she went on the road of Glass Tiger
yes
Gustagon yeah
that's pretty good
Alan Frue
oh aye
Alan Frue
Alan Frue
but what I never understood
was she wasn't singing
right like what was she opening
with like a monologue or something
like
yeah
just to see something
you know
people fall in love
with talking heads on TV
but if they can't believe
they're actually seeing.
Well, here's how we're going to close.
It's just funny small world story
because you mentioned Jeff Rogers.
I thought of Erica M.
I remember great controversy
when they made a documentary about much
but it never got released
because of some song licensing issues
called 99 Queen Street West.
No, 29, Queen Street West.
Yeah, pardon me.
Cut the old address there.
But the controversy was
that Catherine McLanagan
flew from Los Angeles to see the dock at Roy Thompson Hall.
I was there.
And she was very upset because in the dock,
although it doesn't explicitly state it,
it is kind of suggested that the first woman VJ on much music is Erica M.
But Catherine McClennahan is actually the first female VJ.
And the reason I said Small World Story is because
Catherine McClanahan dated a entertainment lawyer named Paul Farberman
who did promise, he did say he could get me into the lake house tonight
before the Who.
So I just remember that Catherine McClanahan was at the recording of Tears Are Not Enough.
And I asked her how she got in there.
Is it because of her much affiliation?
And she said, no, she was dating Paul Farberman,
who had to get all the artists to sign off on their contributions.
So that is a small world fun fact, mind blow for you.
There you go.
Sure wouldn't want to pay it.
Hey, you know, Rob, you know, you know,
You said you had a quote that you didn't remember who was from.
Yes.
Well, tying into baseball, my favorite baseball player is a guy named Kyle Ripkin Jr.
Yeah, he heard of him.
His autobiography, he would always say, the harder I work, the luckier I go.
There you go.
It's true.
It's the same, right?
It's the same.
It is.
Yeah, absolutely.
Wow.
And shout out to Billy Ripkin and his fuck-face bat.
I do have that card.
I bet you do.
Amazing.
That was amazing.
Okay, so Jim,
we're going to do a proper episode.
You and I are going to just chat.
But I just want to say a couple things.
One is,
thanks for hanging in there because,
you know,
I mentioned I had to vamp,
as I used that word.
As I just found out what it meant.
I was going to go first,
but I went to see you on Zoom
and it was a black,
like a black screen.
And I'm like, oh.
I'm blacker.
I'm like, where did he go?
So that's why I let Bob go first.
And then I saw,
you showed up grabbing. There we go. So thank you for doing this. Yes, it worked out
amazing. And thank you for listening. I have, you and I have been like Instagram buddies and I know
you listen to Toronto Mike. Can you tell us when you do those Spotify raps, what did it tell you
about your fandom for Toronto Mike? I am in the point zero zero zero one seven list. Wow.
Really? Holy crap. Wow. Are you that? That's amazing. My brain can't even do that math. Like how many
listeners do you have to get to 0.017? So.
That's amazing.
That could be the...
Okay, so that's amazing.
So we're going to talk one-on-one.
Thank you for listening.
Thank you for doing this.
And just maybe the...
What's that?
Thanks for having me.
On our way out, though,
looking back all these years later,
because that's like an anniversary, right?
95, now we're in 25.
My brain says that...
I can't believe fluke is 30 years old.
Wow.
Like, I still listen to it like it's fresh.
Okay?
I listen to it all the time, as you know.
What do you think, listening back?
What do you think of fluke?
30 years later.
You know what I think?
Are you familiar
with St. Anger?
Yeah, well, yeah, from Metallica.
Yes.
Just look up.
Lars Ulrich, St. Anger's snare drum.
At times,
at times, it's a little bit.
You know, I don't like bearing the drums,
but at times it is a little bit too present.
Well, oh, yeah, because it's in 1999.
Well, the sound of the drums at the beginning,
it did make me think, oh, those are just some good drum samples
because that sounds, there's like,
no, it's not.
It's not drum samples.
You know what? There's no click.
Seriously. That's amazing. But the sound of the drums is so good.
It evokes a feeling that just makes you feel like, oh, I'm going to love this.
Like, just the sound of it, what it is.
Oh, that's kind. That's kind. That's kind.
So, Jim, we'll talk again. You're now an FOTM, but we'll get you on a proper episode.
And thanks for doing it. So you have two choices here.
One is you could go about your day in Jolly Old England.
Or you can mute yourself and you can totally let us, like, you can just,
listen in because Rob Pruse is about to kick out a jam.
My first jam.
All right.
It's up to you.
Listen, go by the way and just listen.
But thanks, guys.
Thanks,
thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks for doing this.
Rob, any words before your first jam?
No, this was the first one that came into my head.
This is not the original version.
Really?
Because we all know it so well that I thought, well, let's lighten it up a little.
Is this the real life?
Is this just fantasy?
It's so Rob, though, right?
Just let it wash over you.
At least he didn't just discover the song
when he Googled it or something.
That's true.
Open your eyes.
Look up to the skies and see.
Is that gone so?
I'm just a poor door.
I need no sympathy.
Cause I'm easy come, easy go.
Little high, little low.
It's Gonzo with chickens.
Of course it is.
It gets better to me.
To me.
It gets better.
That's Rolf on the piano.
Of course, of course.
Mama.
Animal.
Yeah.
Mama?
Mama.
Mama.
Yeah.
Mama.
I love that.
Yeah.
Mama.
Mama!
Mama!
Ah ha ha ha ha ha.
Mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama.
Mama!
Mama!
Mama!
Yoho!
Mama
Go, Mama!
Mama!
Oh, Mama!
Mama!
Okay.
All right.
I love it.
Tada?
All right, conductor, Rob, do I bring it down, or you want to...
Keep it going here.
It's just good.
It's a good part.
It's a poor that like me, very, very frightening me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, maelio.
It's the bear.
I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me.
He's just a poor boy from a poor family, sparing his life's from your scene.
Myxstrosity!
Noom!
Easy come, easy go, will you let me go?
They will not let you throw
Let me blow
Let me joke
Do not like your jokes
Let me joke
You can fade it down
I'm enjoying it because you got to watch the video
To really appreciate it
I'm sure it's hilarious
This is from 15 years ago
And the words
Bohemian Rhapsody
Are never uttered in this song
That's the name of this song actually
Yeah
Wow
So did you know
What an obscure
I never heard of it
Yeah
So
When I first heard the song
It's coming up on the 50th anniversary
Didn't we mention Wayne's World earlier in this episode
Because we talked about almost famous
Yeah but still
Same
This is a song that was playing
Exactly
And I didn't mention it
But I didn't want to bring it out
But did you do it on purpose?
Yeah yeah
You're playing 3D chess over there
I am sort of
So this is one of those songs for me
In my life when I was nine years old
And heard this on the radio
Changed my life
Like it's one of those moments
Where I was listening to CCOC
on my little clock radio beside my bed
And this song started
And I was, like, leaning into the radio because I didn't know what I was hearing.
And when they announced, they said this, that was Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody.
And I literally didn't know, is Queen the band or is Bohemian Rhapsody the band?
I didn't know what was going on.
So you'd never heard any Queen before.
I knew Killer Queen indirectly, because when we had been visiting my relatives in Germany,
and my cousin in Germany was a huge queen fan.
They were already sort of breaking through.
So it was a whole new world to me.
How old are you when you hear Bohemian Rhapsody?
Nine years old.
I had just turned 10.
Wow.
Wow.
So, yeah.
So to hear this on the radio for the first time was,
life changing for me. Silly question.
Because we know the song's like six minutes long or whatever.
So 1150 would play a six minutes song?
Oh yeah. That was the whole for sure.
The whole thing about the song.
But that's like top 40. I thought, okay, I didn't know.
No, this, it broke through at that time because people said you'll never get airplay
with this because it's five and a half minutes long.
And this was, that was Mike Myers, right?
Because isn't that in the movie?
In the movie, that's right. Exactly.
So what was cool, but people discovered a couple years ago,
originally, Freddie, when he was first working on it had called it Mongolian Rhapsody.
they auctioned off a bunch of his stuff
from his home in
2023 and they had all these like pages
of lyrics and lyric ideas and stuff
and the actual pages of him working out the lyrics for
Bohemian Rhapsody. At the top of the page
he had written Mongolian Rhapsody
and then he scribbled up Mongolian
and put Bohemian. I wanted to show you last night I was watching the
Argo game in my shed and I've got a new record player
out there but there's a there's a Rob Proust
carrot in there. Oh, news of the world
yeah. Yeah, it was just like the album
I was listening to is an old
Queen album. Amazing. It's the one with We Will Rock
You and we are the champions. Yes. I saw them on that.
That was the first time I ever saw them was on that tour. That was
that the news of the world. That is an original copy
from my mom's, like my stepdad.
No way.
Would you buy a ticket for Queen with a different lead singer?
Well, you know, I've considered seen
buy a ticket. Yeah, buy a ticket. I would.
I almost wanted to see them with Adam Lambert
the last time they came around. I don't like
the combination so much, but I realize
while Roger and Brian are still alive,
they rock the shit out of their shows
and their music. I heard it's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing.
And, I mean, Queen is one of the rare bands
that people who don't know the depth of them,
all four of them were huge songwriters
and important contributors
to the whole canon of the music.
They've all written the hits,
all four guys in the band.
Sort of like how that trio we learned about
wrote all those big songs from Rusty's flute.
Yes, well, Jim Moore, exactly.
Like, that's the thing.
There's a connection there.
The forgotten member, by shout out Jim Moore,
who I've been corresponding,
because he loves the fluke references.
I love that.
And I do a lot of them.
But, yeah, he wouldn't have been here.
He's not in the band anymore,
because he's in England.
He's his own thing.
But he was for,
he's a founding member
and he hung around
to like 2000 or something.
That's cool.
So can you play my number two?
Of course.
I thought of this.
So this is,
I was looking for something.
So I was looking for like a bohemian rapese.
There's so much shit online
on YouTube where you can like break down
all the all the overdubs and all the parts.
And I thought let's cleanse the Muppets
and just listen to this middle section
with no music,
just voices.
Got a moosh,
gotta moosh.
Will you do the bandango?
Stunderbolt and lightning
Very, very frightening me
Galileo
Galileo, Galileo, Pygaro
Magnifico
I'm just a poor boy
Nobody loves me
He's just a poor boy
From a poor family
Spare him his life
From this monstrosity
Easy come
Easy go
Will you let me go
Vish milah
No, we will not let you go
Let him go
Bish milah
We will not let him go
And who will not let you go.
Let him go.
We will not let you go.
Let me go.
Never, never, never, never.
Let me go.
And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, mamma mea, mama me.
Mama Mia, let me go.
Beelze and book as a devil put aside for me, for me, for me.
And who's doing all those background vocals?
It's just the band.
It's Roger, Brian, and Freddie.
It's just the three of them.
There's only three of them doing those.
Just three guys.
And they layered so many layers of tape.
Amazing.
Yeah.
When I was in grade eight,
I had a conversation with my music teacher,
Ms. Wilkinson,
and she was convinced
that that high note at the end
was not sung by a man.
Wow.
And I was arguing with her
when I was like 11.
Oh, like working man by Rush.
Yeah.
He's the greatest front for vocalist.
No, but that's Roger.
That's Roger Taylor,
the drummer singing the highest.
Roger's doing the highest note.
That's not.
Nope.
That's not Freddie.
Wow.
Roger had a higher range
because he still sings
the high stuff now.
yeah, but they slowed down the tape a little bit to get that high range out of there.
So anyways, yeah.
There's a chacha.
That's my wife.
Is that your wife?
It's Leah, yeah.
What she got to say?
I can't believe Rob forced Mike to say the words, is that gonzow?
Somebody earlier said you're mean to me too, Mike.
Mike said that, but I don't feel any meanness towards you, but I can be blunt, but I don't
think I just got back in for the first time.
I haven't been able to get in.
Really?
I texted Ian surface.
Do you think I'm mean to you?
No, I'm way meaner to you.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Why don't have to be mean to one of my favorite guests?
It's a love-love relationship.
It is.
It's only because I just think I'm funny.
That's all.
Whether I am or not is up for debate.
I think I'm the one who said, I was at Second City.
I was there in the audience.
You came and supported me.
I was supporting you.
Adam was amazing.
Adam Lambert was amazing, according to Moose Grubby.
Yes, we've talked about that.
She's a big Adam head.
Yep.
So that was the first one that came to mind for you.
That makes sense.
Yeah, that's a big one.
Yeah, I feel like we don't want to Hanson that one.
You know, that's perfect.
We hansom, the Bubba O'Reilly.
Bubba.
There's a lot of great,
Bubba O'Reilly.
So I'm going to pass the baton to Bob.
Oh, and now we're moving on.
Yeah, because we're going to keep our order.
Okay.
Yeah, because we have,
Rob's going to close the whole thing.
Right.
Okay.
So this, I could probably do a lot of, of titles in this genre.
So just hit it and we'll talk about it in a few.
What the fuck, buck, buck, buck, black, black, black,
cover your children's ears.
And then we can have a debate about parentheses jams.
Yeah, we've done that.
Does that count?
Yeah.
I feel like I'm in train spotting or something.
Almost.
They know what is what, but they don't know what is what.
They just strut.
What the fuck?
They know what is what?
but they don't know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what but they don't know what is what they just strut they just strut what the fuck what the fuck
they know what is what they don't know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what they don't know what is what they don't know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what they don't know what is what they don't know what is what they
They just struck
What the fuck
They know what is what
But they don't know what is what
They just know what is what
But they don't know what is what
They just know what they know
What they don't know what is what they just
Anybody know the artist
The way you would do Mike
I do
Yeah
You do?
25 years old this album today
Or this year
This is
Oh I thought it was today
I was excited
No not this today
Not maybe I don't know
Between the Hatter and the Stars
Is Fat Boy Slims
album follow up to
You've come a long way baby
You've come a long way baby
Of course has Praise You
And Rockefeller Skank and all
That's the big one
That's from 98 I think
Yeah monster jam
Yeah huge
So this is a song called Star 69
Amazing
And nowhere does it say Star 69
Really?
Yeah nowhere
Remember in the old days
When you'd know what Star 69 meant
That's what I mean
That was one of the reasons I brought it up
How many kids even know what Star 69
Every listener of Toronto Mike
Remembered everybody's listening
To this show
But can I ask you Bobulet
There's a parenthesis in this title
Is there?
No, not on the
Oh, maybe it's just on the YouTube one.
Yeah, no, not on the CD.
Okay, so just star 69.
Yeah.
Why, is there parentheses on the video?
Yeah, so.
Is there what the fuck?
Yeah.
Oh, no, no, no.
I can show you the,
Rob, will you, uh, while Bob talks about Norman Cook here and, uh, all this good
stuff, can you search the proper title of this song?
Yeah, nobody's got to see it.
No, no, no, this is not, this is not going to happen because I can guarantee you.
Because I own the CD.
I own the CD.
And actually, listening to this, back to this.
So this has, this is the album that has weapon of choice,
which is the Christopher Walken dancing video.
Oh, this is that song?
Yeah.
No, this is the same album.
Okay.
This also has the very, I almost picked it,
unbelievably painful, beautiful ending song to bully, the movie.
I love that movie.
Yeah.
So that lasted, I see a great big guy, the final track of bully is like,
it's all about coming out of a movie
Oh my god
It's such a crazy movie
This came out the same year as
Um play
Moby's play
And I find this
album actually more enjoyable
Than halfway between the gutter
Or this is halfway between the gutter step
More than you've come a long way baby
I just
I really want this on vinyl now
Now that I have a set up
Like when I've been listening to it a lot
From beginning to end
And it's just
there's a song called Bird of Prey
on this which samples
it's Jim Morrison's voice
it's beautiful
That's amazing
So yeah
So there's a ton of music
In this electro-electronica
That you could take and use
But this one came to mind
Because I just like
They know what it comes to your mind
So it came to mind right away
Yeah it comes up as star 69
Yeah
It says also known as star 69
Pertheses
So Bob we're gonna allow this
Yeah
And it says it's star 69
Is the name of the song
But then in parentheses
Ironically enough.
It says also known as Star 69, what the fuck.
But that's not what it's known as on the...
Right.
Like, only...
You know what?
Stupid people call it what the fuck.
You know what?
But people are stupid.
That is true.
I will agree with you.
So, why should it be?
He goes into a record store and he's like, give me the teenage wastelands.
Give me that teenage waste of song.
Yeah, for sure.
But the song's title, as titled by Norman Cook,
aka the funk soul brother.
No, I'm on your side.
I love Norman Cook.
I actually am on your side.
Norman did Norman about Norman Cook?
I was just looking at that he was in.
the house martin i don't think i maybe i do that 25 years ago i forgot we used to play this a ton
we used to play this a ton on the live dairs with martin streak and he was like norman cook a k a
funk's old brother okay a fat boy slim yep you played on caravan of love yes that's so cool
norman cook's very and he's still going there's still he's like all over the place it's amazing
i saw him at the warehouse yeah yeah he was pretty great i'm gonna listen to five boy slim on my
drive home this is almost as long as well he mean rhaps this oh no it's very long and it's not even a remix
That's the original.
Yeah, that's the original.
The remix is actually...
Oh, I'm just looking at the remixes.
They have one that's 710,
and then they have a...
Wynum-Dynum-6-9-mix.
That's 820.
Wow.
Yeah, between...
Oh, hang on here.
Timo Moss remix is 7-10.
Between the gutter and the stars.
I just want the...
I want to...
Love it.
This is a B-side
to the single is weapon of choice.
Did you say?
Oh, is that B-Side?
They call it a double A-side.
Oh, okay.
So, come on.
The last...
I just want to, oh, yeah, I love this.
So, the last two songs on it are, um, it's song for shelter.
Um, and then it goes into talking about my baby reprise.
So song for shelter is 1126.
Wow.
And it's, um, it's with, uh, Roland Clark and Roger Sanchez and it's got to hit.
Anyways, it's 1126.
I'm going to tell you this.
If you're on shrooms, yeah, it's the best song ever.
When was the last time you were on shrooms?
It's been a long time.
It's been too long.
I want to do it right now.
What's too long?
Decades?
No, no.
not decades like probably hours yeah like yeah you have 23 minutes no um yeah you're on schumes right
a couple years ago a couple years ago about i love like the song for shelter 1126 of fine
shrooming music oh so good oh i believe it i believe it love it rob have you ever been on shrooms
uh no i've been on other psychedelics but not i've never and i've never done i've never done i've
I'm afraid to do psychedelics.
You'll be afraid.
I'm afraid it'll change my majority.
Everybody's heard about Bill Burr.
Bill Burr's mushrooms saved his life.
It will change your life.
Change the way he sees things.
There's what it goes on about.
I just saw the biopic about Brian Wilson.
And he dropped acid and it really fucked up his anxiety.
I think he probably did it too much.
No, it wasn't just that though.
He was already prone.
Oh, yes.
But it brought out this.
It exacerbated.
Yes, but I just don't feel like rolling that death.
You know, the difference in the, the,
the thing about doing
those kind of things
it's all about
what
Timothy Leary
and Alan Ginsberg
used to call
the set and the setting
it's all about
where you do it
and your intention
for doing it
and it's a serious subject
like I've been into
this shit for like
over 20 years
that I had an experience
once or like
over 20 years ago
that changed my life
wow
and I feel like
what do you mean
you had a drug
induced epiphany
uh huh
can you be more
can you elaborate it
it'll be in my book
did you DMT
it's in the book
I'm
I want to, have you know, have you read stuff about DMT?
There's lots of things you can research about this stuff.
This is a world.
But you can't give us a little more?
Not right now.
This is only your 100th appearance.
I know.
No.
You can't tell me more about this epiphany you had on drugs.
No.
Like what drug were you on?
It was a plant, actually.
It was a plant that exists in nature.
It's called Salvia divinor.
Oh, Salvia.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's intense.
Yeah.
I didn't know anything about it when I did it.
It was spoken about.
I was it, I was actually doing this, doing a seminar weekend thing that had
nothing to do with it, but the guy who was leading the seminar sort of mentioned it.
And the way he described it to me, I was like, oh, I fucking want to do that.
Okay.
And then where were you?
This was like a control.
I was in New York and at home in my, in my apartment.
But anyways, the thing about it is, the thing about it, no, not, it's, I want to talk about it.
You can't give us a little more.
I'm not going to ask you to, but there's an epiphany and it changed the way you look at life.
Yeah, sure.
It was like, I would call, I could encapsulate it as partially it was a near death experience.
Yeah.
So what a lot of people who approach.
psychedelics and psychedelic experiences is that it strips away.
Bob, isn't this the most fascinating thing he's ever said?
I think he's fascinating all the time, Mike, but that's fine.
Yeah, I don't know.
He doesn't listen to 20 minutes of the Muppet's doing bohemian interaction.
It all goes together.
Like, it all comes together.
Also, my pet peeve, it bothered me because I re-listened to Last Toast.
Yeah.
I'm banning it, so I'm going to make a rule.
I know what you're going to be.
You know, when we make the topic, you can't discover a song after the topic.
I love that.
You love that.
I hate it.
Because then you're so recency, biacy, that you feel.
found this song. It's kind of neat, but it doesn't
mean anything to you. You're right. You literally are hearing it for
the first time. But you know, it's funny, when you said that last
just a week ago, when you said that, it hit me in a different
way and I thought, you're right. Who's picking the,
who's picking this? Is it my turn? You're next.
No, I'm ready. I got, I'm ready. I do. Oh, I do.
I do. I do. Because, uh, he did
morning song and then I picked this one. You're up next. And then we can't
veto the topic. Well, you can't pick a song we're hearing for the first time.
So my topic will ensure it can't be a new song.
Okay, good. Yeah. So you
did drugs
and then you
had an epiphany
yeah
well okay
I think it ties
into my song
okay
it's a nice segue
we'll talk about it
you ready for a song
where the title
does not appear
as a lyric
in the song
yep
a live version
nope
the way he rolls
oh I see you
that's a good one
I never found
I read the news
today
oh boy
about a looking man who made the great
It's pretty good at it, eh?
And though the news was rather sad
I love this song.
It's my favorite Beatles song.
Is it really?
Oh, interesting.
I don't know if I wrote it.
I saw the photograph
he blew his mind out in a car.
I used to go to the Phoenix for Strange Paradise.
Andy Frost would host, but they'd play the song just before the music kicked in.
And it was very cool to hear it every Thursday night in the big room at the Phoenix 410 Sherbourne Street.
This army had just won the war
The crowd of people turned away
But I just had to look
Having read the ball
I'd love to turn you
This is the line Rob
I'd love to turn you one
You had that moment.
You got turned on, man.
I don't know how to fade out this song
because it's like Bohemian Rhapsody
and that it's a, it's epic.
I woke up, fell out of bed,
tried to comb across my head.
Found the way downstairs and drank a cup.
Looking up, I noticed I was late.
Find my coat and grab my hat.
Made the bus in seconds flat.
I'm away upstairs and had a smoke
Had a smoke
Somebody spoke and I went into a dream
All right
So we've all heard this song
I'll bring it down
But a day in the life
But it's in the headphones even right now
If you two gentlemen
Sounds amazing
Awesome
I love it
This just in The Beatles
And this album Sargent
This is good
Got to check this band here
Yeah let's go on a limb here
It's pretty good
You're going to do a deep dive on this
Is this?
Is this the album?
I just saw it.
not that Brian Wilson
biopic, so it's in my head
but PetSounds
influences this album.
Oh yeah.
Sergeant Pepper's only
hers club band.
Yeah, we talked to
with that last week ago.
Yeah, just a week ago.
On last month's episode.
That's right.
And I like the singing on it too.
Like aren't the Beach Boys all over this?
Like those,
not on this one.
Not in this song,
but was it the other?
Yeah.
1967, everybody.
We're in 1967,
a Lennon McCartney.
So John Lennon
contributed,
what does he do?
The opening and closing sections are mainly John.
Paul contributes some, the middle section.
But all four Beatles are involved in, like, shaping this arrangement we're listening to right now in the headphones.
And George Martin?
George Martin, of course, the producer extraordinaire.
So, we talk about the drugs, okay?
So the line, I'd love to turn you on, got this song banned by the BBC.
Wow.
Hold on me back on.
Okay, this part,
Influence is something very interesting
that we will all recall with fondness, I think, okay?
So I'll bring it...
It's hard to interrupt this song.
It calls for so long.
turning up the mics, that's all they kept that sound going.
ASMR with Rob Bruce.
It's the Beatles.
No, it's the key of E.
It's a big E.
They misspelled Beatles.
Can you believe it?
What a big mistake.
What a boner, man.
Okay, so listen to this, Rob and Bob.
close right
my max
THHX
THHX
THX
The audience is listening
I like a good
musical
like a jingle
like a little
tag like like boom boom boom boom
like Intel inside.
I like those a lot.
What do you think of?
By Menon.
I like that.
I like it.
I like it.
We tried to come up with one
on the Humble and Fred show.
It was one of my favorite moments
we ever did.
Really?
Oh, yeah.
But it was Curtis,
who's now on the morning show
at Legends or whatever.
It's called down at 105.7.
Used to be Easy Rock.
And he was an intern on the show
and we had him go off and do one for us.
And he just came back with him going,
boop, boop, boop, boop.
Because it was so unexpected.
It was one of my funniest memories
of the Humbley.
All of us killed ourselves.
And can you believe one of those two
gentleman phoned us earlier today.
Live on the air.
Doesn't probably,
doesn't know he was on this episode of trauma.
Mike,
you'll go back and listen.
I was narrating.
I was doing some voice over while you were on the phone.
I will go back and listen.
So,
because it was a boring chat to,
I didn't,
I didn't know it was going to be that boring.
Yeah, yeah.
So I thought it'd be more spicy.
But this,
that thing that THX sound I just played
is called Deep Note.
Yeah.
And it was absolutely inspired by
the Beatles song,
the day in the life.
By that big glass piano chord.
Yeah.
Super cool.
So you mentioned sort of,
apparently it was 34 hours.
It took 34 hours to perfect that orchestral cacophony.
Wow.
Well, and there's a lot of neat kind of outtaking kind of things.
The whole song was 34 hours, but a lot of it was that final chord.
You can hear George, like, counting the orchestra in.
Like, there's, you know, outtake versions and stuff online.
And they were counting off all those bars of music.
And he was basically having the orchestra start a low note and move up to a high note.
And they count to like 18, whatever.
I want to give credit to the guy who put that deep note together, inspired by a day in the life.
and also something by this guy named Bach.
Yeah.
Oh.
Whoever the hell of that.
I think it's Batch.
I think he's Batch.
Actually, I think you call it Batch.
Oh, I did like, was it 18 in life, right?
Yes.
Oh, Sebastian Batch.
Johan Sebastian Batch.
It must be him, right?
It must be him.
Okay.
But the guy who did put that together, his name is James a Moorer.
So sort of like our guest.
What was our guest's name?
Jim Moore.
This guy's Jim Moore.
What the heck?
Moor.
So you go from Rusty to T.H.X.
That's unbelievable right there here.
That's cool.
Where do I want to go?
just that that's a very
that song is critically acclaimed
you might know a day in the life
it's on many of your like top song lists
CBC 50 tracks
put it very high
Q magazine listed the 50 greatest
British songs of all time
and it was at the top
Mojo's 101 greatest Beatles song
they put it at number one
okay it was nominated
as the greatest Beatles song
a Beatles song yeah but there's a lot of competition
you might know
the only other one I can think
that might switch spots
with it sometimes
is in my life
which is also like
one of those big
you know top Beatles songs
everybody's got their own
favorite Beatles song
what's yours
got to get you into my life
oh
what's yours
number nine
number nine
number nine
no but I love
it would have to be
something off the white album
I don't know what though
it was nominated
for best arrangement
accompanying vocalist
or instrumentalist
at the Grammys in
1967
I don't know what the heck
I can't picture
the Beatles giving a shit
about the Grammys
not at all
like nothing
like not caring at all
even at the very beginning
just not giving a shit about the
You know what else they didn't give a shit about
which I think is really interesting
for me technically as a musician
they didn't give a shit about stereo
when they were mixing their records
Oh by the watchman
Really?
Wow
When they were mixing in the records
They were mixing them for the radio
And it was all mono right
Stereo was kind of
I mean it wasn't a new thing
But they didn't really care
So they would mix the records with George
And they would get a good monomix
And then they'd leave him to do the stereo
Let him do whatever we don't care
Well I mean is it
Twist and shout the very first
It's all vocals are on one side
pretty much
I know because I've DJed weddings where I have one speaker out
or not one speaker.
I have one channel up and I've run two speakers through the one.
And then all of a sudden you're like,
oh, wow, wow, yeah.
Crazy.
Okay, there's another song, but I can't play it all.
I'm going to kind of fast forward to that point in this big song.
You might know, hold on, so.
You might know this song?
Yeah.
I'm going to try to find it very quickly.
Stand by.
David Bowie.
David Bowie.
Okay, let's listen here.
How well, it ain't that close to love?
Well, it ain't that farmy door.
Heart's been broken just like you in
All night
All night.
You want the Young American, you want the Young American, you want the Young American, All right.
You want the Young American.
You ain't a pairback, you ain't a horse, a parent's got a candy and a lady got a Chrysler.
Black's got the standard, weight's got a soap trainer.
Mama's got cramps and look at your handshake.
I heard the news today, oh boy.
There it is.
Okay, worth the wait, everybody.
Work the wait.
I heard the news today, oh boy, is a direct allusion to a day in the life by the Beatles.
It appears a couple of times in young Americans.
Love it.
And there's one dance song that can make me break down and cry.
We don't kick out a lot of David Bowie on toast.
No.
I love Bowie.
I know.
Yeah, he doesn't come up.
And I'm not going to play this whole thing, but we played him earlier.
so I just thought I'd point out
this guy can sing anything
and he's just fucking rad.
Shout out to Ridley Funeral.
I fucking love this guy's voice.
I shouted him out on my little video
of my walk on the West Coast.
Did you?
I was going to the West End of the City.
The West End of the City.
Can you tell me about that?
Because on the live chat, Tyler Campbell says,
No, it was, oh.
It was Canada Cove.
Somebody.
Oh.
But D.P.
Says, you walked.
Oh, I see.
Last week after I left your home, I decided, I was on my way to work and do a shift.
And usually I'd do a little video before, but what's coming up on the radio on my personal socials.
And then I posted also on the Indy88 store.
And I just decided to randomly just record things here in the, like the Maple Leaf House and all the, on my walk up to the Mimico station.
Wow.
And, uh, so V-P says I enjoyed Bob's walking tour of New Toronto and Mimico last week.
Yeah.
And I was, uh, I just was like randomly, I met a cat that I said was the mayor of Mimico.
The cat's name was, I named the cat, Tabitha.
Oh, wow.
I, uh, I met, uh, yeah, no, I met, um, a couple stone marble, uh, um, a couple stone marble, uh,
lions that I asked
to be on the walk.
Just a bunch of different garbage
that I just...
Well, Moose Grumpy also enjoyed it.
It was just a silly little one minute.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was just a silly little walk
that I put it together
and I extolled the virtues
of the walk from here to Mimico Station.
That's all.
It was a good walk, though.
While walking...
I mean, you did the...
So walking here, I mean, you guys saw...
I mean, I was sweating like,
crazy.
Rob Pruse.
Any words
before I kick out your second jam?
No, it was the second one.
that came into my head.
Because you've only,
you've done two already?
I've only done one.
Oh, I've done two.
You've done two?
Yeah.
Because the order's all messed up.
I did not do.
I did not do a good job on that.
I feel ashamed.
I actually thought I had to press play in.
and then my apologies.
I'm embarrassed.
Did you want to talk up to sing it now.
eyes
and you made me smile
for a little while
I was falling in line
and I was falling
somebody somewhere
this was the beginning of all of it
tell us what we're listening to
so it's flock of seagulls
it's called space age love song
it's not mentioned it was on their first album
which came out in 82
and apparently from reading on the line
the guitarist Paul Reynolds
thought they should call it space age love song
because it sounds like a space age love song
it's a very simple song
there's only the plan and blonde guys were listening
Yes, everybody was listening.
I mean, this totally, we had a spoon song that sounded just like this.
Like, it's so funny to me now that I see what an inspiration they were to the music world in general
because there was nothing like this album when it came out.
I mean, Iran was the big hit, of course.
But the whole album was really just fantastic.
And now the aforementioned Gordep is in that band.
I know.
I just watched a clip of him playing the song from just a few weeks ago somewhere down in the States.
It's so cool.
Yeah.
Does he still take your calls, Rob?
Gord.
Yeah, he takes my emails.
Ha, he's a busy guy.
It's funny, he's really, he's way busier with Flocka Seagulls than with Gordon, with Sandy, you know, in the Spoons world.
But it's good.
I'm glad for him to, like, be a part of this band because, like, they're on these lost 80s tours, doing all these crazy gigs, you know, so super cool.
Yep.
1984, you said?
Yes.
This sounds very 19, to me, well, you guys are so young.
It sounds, it's very 1980.
We were there, though.
You were there.
I mean, we did.
Bob's about the turn 50.
Summer of 82, we played with this band, you know, at the police picnic at the
see and E. And so we were the first band. Then it was Flok of Seagulls and then it was Joan Jett
and then the talking heads and then the police. Crazy. And Flok of Seagos were brand new at that time
as well. So it was a cool bill for all of us. Yeah. What a crazy line up. Those police picnics were
crazy. It was unbelievable. I know. Rob, I have a question for you. What is the second biggest
hit? Like if you ask the average music fan, what's the second biggest hit from Flok of Seagull.
I think there's a song called Wishing if I had a photograph of you, which if you
would say that's the second? This would be the second. Wouldn't it? I ran and then this.
Would you think of this?
Like, I would say between those two.
Oh, see, I know where I, I know this and I ran.
The one you're saying, I don't know.
If you heard it, you probably know.
I'm not sure I know this.
Oh, you know, it's basically, that's what I'm not sure I did.
Oh, we used to play this on Sunday nights.
That's why I think you might know one more.
Wishing was more of a traditional kind of a pop song.
Okay.
So maybe, yeah.
Yeah.
It's sort of like when you were talking Mike to Sophie B. Hawkins and she mentioned that
second song.
And I was like, I don't think I know that song.
And it's like, oh, I do know that song.
Oh, my God.
Of course.
I forgot about that song.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
Sophie B.
Hawkins.
Great taste in men.
Yeah.
Oh, wow.
It makes them feel good.
It was nice.
I'm provoked.
Yeah, but she's omnisexual.
She doesn't care about men or women.
She cares about what she feels.
Isn't that pansexual?
I don't know.
Oh, there's a difference.
I think Monica looked up the difference because we thought pansexual and omni.
I think pansexual is you don't care about the gender.
Right.
Like you're sort of in love of the spirit or whatever.
Right.
And I feel Omni is you like all genders.
You're attracted to all gender.
genus, but you do actually care
about the genitalia somehow.
I don't understand. You think pansexual people don't
care about genitalia? Yeah, like maybe pansexual
people are really attracted to a spirit.
Right, but you can't make a spirit come.
Can you say that on Indy-A?
I'd figure it away. You could say the C word?
I could figure it away. I could figure it away. I couldn't do it
during the day. I wouldn't do it during
the day, but in the evening, if I were on,
I'd figure it away. Canada Kev says that song sounded like
Iran or whatever at the beginning.
Is it called and Iran or is it called Iran?
Iran.
And then I think sometimes in brackets it even says so far away in parentheses.
Okay, no, we're not talking about the country Iran.
No, that's right.
And only Americans pronounce it Iran.
So that's, yeah, Iran.
Yeah.
Is that president still alive?
Can you do that?
You know what?
I was going to mention to you guys last night.
I was going down a funny weird rabbit hole when you, if you Google Putin poison Trump,
holy fucking shit, sorry.
Well, that's like that's a long way to go.
but you can go back in the news
but if we stick to facts
yeah yeah but
he hasn't made a
and he might be making one right now
like I think he's scheduled
I know but he hasn't made
it's been days
since he made a public appearance
which is unusual for him
we'll mark the date of this
of this episode
and I was like reading these things
last night
they were like these speculative things
about their meeting in Alaska
I was like holy shit
like nobody would put anything past
anybody these days with these
well we've seen bloated
what do you call that
swollen ankles
he's making a talk
interesting
Okay, so we've seen swollen ankles
And we've seen bruising on the hands
Like these are like objective
Like facts
We've seen this from reputable journalists
Have reported photographs, yeah
So reputable
Reputable. Reputable? Reputable.
Both. They're both reputable and reputable.
Reputable, man.
Brewery.
Okay. But the bruising as a fellow
Blood Thinner taker, although I have no bruising
you'll see here, you do
you do bruise easily
when you're on blood thinners.
So, who knows?
Maybe he's got
congenitive heart failure
and the world can rejoice soon.
What do you think?
And Rob Proust never got home.
When it happens.
Yeah.
Never got home.
Okay.
Now, any final words to say
about flock of seagulls?
No nothing, actually.
No fun facts.
Do they take your call?
Who's the main guy again?
Mike's score.
Yeah, right.
Will he take your, answer your email?
No, but you consider him in FOT.
You consider flock of seagles
like,
you need to talk to Mike's score.
If a member of a band
from on trying to Mike,
I say that's an FOTM band, right?
So the fact is, as we speak,
Gord Dep is a member of Flog Sicks as an FOTM band.
I know, it's so funny to me.
I know, it's true.
But that's just, you know, I'm not even playing.
I bet you could get Mike's score on the base.
If he had, you know, there was a Flux.
If he was around.
Yeah, yeah.
For sure.
He does those bowling alley shows, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And he's an FOTM.
Yeah, that's right.
There you go.
Yep.
Ed Sousa.
Yeah.
Like, there's a connection there.
Okay.
It's all connected.
Like, all you need to know is that mid-year is an FOTM.
That's all you need to know.
Who's up?
It's the great Bob Wollett.
Bob, any words?
I know you love this band.
I can't wait to kick it out.
No, so I was just trying to see what Philip OJ.
O.J. Al-A.M.
I thought you were going to check and see if the guy was still, the guy was alive.
No, you know what you did.
2 p.m., the president's making an announcement from the Oval Office.
Is it going to sound like when Rob Proust made those jingles?
Is it going to sound like AI?
It might.
You never know.
It might.
You never know.
It's very weekend at Bernie's.
So as opposed to the Beatles, who are, you know, the most influential, most important band in the history of rock, this album and this band means absolutely nothing to anybody but me.
Really?
Well, they have one hit.
They're a one hit one, but this, a huge hit, though.
And it had two waves.
It did.
Yeah.
So, but when, when we thought of a, when the idea was that there's a title and it's the song, I love this band.
I think they're so underrated and they got messed up in the whole, all the buyouts and whatnot between Universal and London records and all these different things.
this is Harvey Danger again I know I've kicked them out before but I even I sent Mike the lyrics
and I'm going to show Rob the lyrics to read along to because it's like I just they spoke to me
in a way that no other band did it was 1997 for whatever reason it was I loved it and this song
is called terminal annex okay and just here there's the lyrics this is your third song right
yeah that's it holy crap yep yep we've been out of two hours we're actually going
long here oh man oh I thought it was going to be
Move into the country.
And it's called what?
Terminal Annex.
There's a couple lines that just really resonated with me.
I'll tell you.
About the Toronto neighborhood, the annex.
Here's something beautiful.
Now smash it to bits.
Save your little wheelchair.
Empowerment films.
Save your swoons I'm spoken for.
It isn't
pretty to think so
but I can't faint interest now
oh
oh
dreaming of this fight I never got into
thinking of me shit
I wish I'd said to you
Such a fancy lady
Call you Secret Tina
She didn't get all the good stuff
But she looked like you
Like a zero
Drowning in a sea of higher numbers
Everything you say to me is dumb
At least it's stupid
Only one more lyric I want you to hear it now I'll talk
20 heavy hammer smashing down
Here's a doorstep you can never darken
You complain about an overflowing cup
Don't forget that I'm the one who fill back
Fucker up.
Right?
So,
one, two, three.
It sounds like poppy, emo bullshit.
It's good, though.
But the lyrics, like, I tell you what,
when I heard the line,
dreaming of the fist fight I never got into,
I, to this day,
have dreams about,
about fights where I'm fighting in slow motion,
or I lose.
I thinking about the mean shit I said to you,
how many times when you were,
like, so I'm 21 when this song comes out,
and you're in a middle of a fight
with your girlfriend or whatever,
and you'll think of all the things
you could have said afterwards.
I just, and like a zero
drowning in a sea of higher numbers
spoke to my soul.
Like there's just like
I felt like as confident as I come off
I'll be honest like I often feel like a piece of shit
so it's like I just like this song just
and then here's a doorstep
you can never darken.
I think I find his lyrics
so smart and this
they never say Terminal Annex.
Have we named the band? Oh it's Harvey Danger.
Yeah, I did mention Harvey Danger. Of course
known only really for Flagpole Sita,
which is a very funny and very smart
song, too. The lyrics are very smart.
This whole album is full of
lyrics to me are, like,
again, this is one of my top three favorite albums
of all time. When you kicked out the jams on Toronto Mike,
you kicked out a different
Harvey Danger song.
About helicopter. Private helicopter, which was
the second single, which never made it
anywhere, but yeah. Do those words appear
in the lyrics? Yes.
Yes, so I'm on a private helicopter with my
favorite best friend. Yeah, so yeah, this one did not.
So I, but I just love, like Pulcita, they don't say that in the lyrics.
They don't, you're right.
That could have actually been, that could have been one, but, you know, I just,
Terminal annex came into your head.
Terminaling came into my head.
That's so cool.
And I just love the, like, like a zero drowningness.
There's so many lyrics that, these are very smart.
And it hits you at the right time, which is everything of music.
Yeah, exactly.
So this album, you know, you talk about how you put rusty.
Yeah, that's right.
You put fluke on.
I put this on a lot.
That's cool.
Although it's not on any streamer.
Do you put on the whole, do you put the whole album on?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You, what do you got it on?
I got it on Spotify.
It's not on Spotify Canada.
What?
Unless they just put it on.
Unless it's just there.
It's literally just been put on if that's the case.
Seriously.
Is that where?
Breaking news.
Yeah.
It's literally never been there.
I'm listening to it on my drive back down to New York tomorrow.
It's never been on there.
Did you re-listen to your jam kicking?
Which one?
Because remember I said on this day, I do the on-this-day thing.
And then I said it was on this day and whatever.
Rob Proust made his first visit.
No, but I celebrated that day, though, because it was the first day we met in real life.
Did you rel listen?
No, I didn't.
So I thought I saw a comment where you said something like how much you enjoyed hearing that.
No, I was just, I was happy that it was the first time we met in real life.
Well, not the last time.
Because we did a Zoom once before that.
Right.
And then we met.
And then it was three years ago yesterday that we had TMLX.
Oh my God.
Right.
All these memories.
Shout out to Cousin Janow who lives in the Annex.
Jano in the Annex.
That sounds like a lyric.
Because that song we just played is called Terminal Annex.
Yeah.
See, so I'm bringing it back to the Annex.
And that's from Leslie.
who's a cousin Janow.
And they will both be at TMLX20,
which is September 25th.
It's not on Spotify,
but it's on your American Spotify.
Lucky me.
So your phone,
wouldn't it have picked up
some kind of a Canadian IP address?
I don't know.
I don't know,
but he's got it,
and I don't.
There are things that come up
when I go to Spotify as well
that people will share online
that I don't get same thing.
So maybe there's licensing things.
Yeah, there's no like,
yeah.
So they have King James version,
which is,
that's a Bible.
Yes, thank you.
I heard that.
Anyway, so that's it.
So that's very self-indulgent.
That's good.
No, but that's the whole point is they're your jams.
You're supposed to be self-indulgent.
That's why I kicked out my favorite Beatles song.
A song I love from Rusty.
And this song, which is also an FOTM, not that the Beatles are.
But the Beatles are not an FOTM band.
Not yet.
Not yet.
Paul hasn't dropped by on his way to Hamilton or whatever.
All right, this is an FOTM jam.
Fucking love this song very much.
Thanks for your face, London.
Nice.
I want everybody in the house makes some noise!
I want everybody in the house to stay home.
Your truck kick it to them, man.
A ballad behind bars, or you could say, real rock from the rock,
an unusual musical happening in a most unusual place.
The state prison have...
I got a letter from the government
the other day I opened in race.
I opened and read it and said they were suckers.
They wanted me for their army or whatever.
Picture me giving a damn.
I said never.
Here's a land that never gave a damn.
I found a brother like me and myself because they never did.
I wasn't winning, but just that very minute it occurred to me.
The suckers had authority.
Cold sweating as I dwell in ourselves.
How long has it been they got me sitting in a state pen.
I got to get out what that thought was thought before.
I kind of played as a plan on the south floor.
I'm not a fugitive on the run
But the brother like me
Begun to be another one
Public enemies serve in time
They drew the line y'all
To criticize me for some crime
Nevertheless they could not understand
And I'm a black man
And I can never be a veteran
On the sprinting situations unreal
I got a raw deal
So I'm looking for the steel
You're serious, you in the justice
Word them up
I'm looking for that steel
You're gonna break you out of there, man
Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos.
This is Public Enemy.
It takes a nation of millions to hold us back.
The album comes out in 88.
This song is released as a single in 1989.
I recorded the video.
They played it during a spotlight.
Do you guys remember much music spotlight?
Yeah.
Then I recorded the Public Enemy Spotlight,
and I got the video on VHS.
Wow.
Shockingly, it was not on high rotation.
not much music, but I got it on the spotlight.
That's cool.
Killer sample. So there's a piano sample
that is underneath this song.
Yeah.
Do you know, I'm dying to know
if you know, you're a penis. No, I don't know.
I like saying the word penis. You do.
So you don't know where this sample comes
from. You want me to tell you?
Can you give me a hint?
Legend.
Nope.
Bob Marley?
Not Bob Marley. He is a legend.
No longer with us.
but I'm going to bring down
Public Enemy
fucking great song
One of my favorite Public Enemy song
So, and I'm going to start this
but I'm going to have to fast forward
to the right spot again
So hold on
This, my friends
is Isaac Hayes
And I'm going to try to say the name of this song
Which is from his 1969 album
Hot Buttered Soul
You ready?
Hyperball
Syllabic
Sesque Daily Mystic
I don't know if I got that right or not
If I got that right, it's a fucking miracle
because I can't even say brewery
How's the beer, Bob?
Brewery, Brer.
How's the beer, Bob?
Wonderful, thank you.
How's your beer, Rob?
Fantastic, thank you.
Thanks, great.
Quickly go ahead to the seven-minute mark.
Give me a second here.
I can do this.
Oh, there it is. That's it.
I'm actually going up further.
Okay, well listen to here for a moment.
Long song.
It's really cool, though.
There it is.
That's really cool.
There it is, everybody.
The 7-10 mark, if you're looking for it, I don't know.
Hyperbolic, syllabic, sesquidaley mystic.
from Hot Buttered Soul
Isaac Hayes
I'm gonna listen to this whole album
when I'm driving home
because I'm just looking at it
on Wikipedia
Hot Butter and Soul
Yeah
There's two songs on side one
There's two songs on side two
That's it
Yeah that's it
And one of them
The first song is a Bert Backerack cover
Walk on by
But he does it for like 12 minutes
Of course he does
And then on side
And then there's this hyperbolic song
And then the side two
He does the Jimmy Webb song
By the time he gets to Phoenix
for 18 minutes.
And then Public Enemy
did by the time
I'd get to Arizona
which is built on
by the time I get to Phoenix.
Yes.
And that's on the next album.
Holy crap.
Apocalypse 91.
The enemy strikes black.
I love learning shit like this.
So what I liked about
a lot of things I liked
about black steel
and now are of chaos.
But one thing is they would do this thing
that I don't know
I just wasn't familiar with
where they sampled themselves.
So like there'd be these scratch breaks
that was Terminator X of course.
But you'd get like
now they got me in a cell
and that's from Bring the Noise
or Death Row.
what a brother knows.
These are parts of Bring the Noise.
And it's on the same album.
So Bring the Noise was a big jam.
You might know the anthrax version,
but it was a big song on the same album.
It takes a nation of millions to hold us back.
And it would get sampled in this song,
Black Steel and the Hour of Chaos.
But, you know, Bob earlier mentioned
live to airs with Martin Streak.
You did that, right, Bob?
I did indeed.
Okay, there's a song you might have heard
on a live to air from Martin Streak,
which is a cover of this song,
but it's a RAD cover
A trademark Toronto Mike
I'm the only one who can say rad now
That is the thing that I say
So I'm just going to play a little bit of that
As Isaac Hayes takes us out
We're going to be able to be.
I got a letter from the government the other day
It said they were suckers
They wanted me for the army or whatever
Oh bitch of me giving a damn
I said never
Here is a land that never gave a damn
About a brother like myself
Because I never did
I wasn't with it for just that very minute
It occurred to me
The suckers had authority
This trip hoppy version is by, it's attributed to Tricky.
Black Steel on the debut Tricky album, which is another word I'll struggle with.
Maxen Quay, 1995.
And I thought this, well, I already loved the original, and I thought this was a pretty cool cover.
Tricky.
But Tricky's not the woman singing, right?
So I wondered, like, this woman,
Martina Topley Bird is her name.
So I decided just sort of like Rob Proust style.
I went going to, like, I went hunting to hear other Martina Topley Bird.
And I discovered a song from Martina Topley Bird that I think is just so damn cool.
And I didn't know it until I stumbled upon it looking for more by her
because she's singing the song.
Do you want to hear that song before we pass the baton to Rob Proust to take a song?
home.
Artina Topley Bird.
Artina Topley Bird.
If all went
The way
You could
Walk today
Time walks a world away
But screw me
You try
You're going to kill some
You're going to breathe some
You're going to do
what's not I want
You're going to pay some
You're going to want some
You're going to be so long
Why you're peating me
Don't make a mark on
It's really cool
Need one
Yeah
Let's get this on Indy 88
Sure
Okay
What ears it from?
Sounds, I don't have an answer, but 90s
1990s
You know the greatest decade of music
The 90s, yeah
You know that right?
Rob, you've never, have you ever closed a toast before?
Never.
Are you nervous?
Nope.
After this song, you realize Bob Willett is going to introduce the October.
But you do realize because we're doing this on September 2nd, it could be like,
it could be like seven weeks, eight weeks.
We're going to forget.
Things are going to happen.
It's going to be a long time before the next toast.
You don't know that.
Well, I know it's going to be at least a month.
Well, that's true.
It's at least 29 days.
It's going to be in October.
That's right.
Fucking cool.
Okay, Rob, any words to say before your final, whatever we're calling this.
Titleless scam or title.
Lyricalist title.
Lyricalist title.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah, no, no words.
This was, actually, the songs came into my head pretty much in this order as well.
So, yeah.
Okay.
And I'm telling you this song was on my short list.
Was it?
Because I love this song.
Okay.
My favorite song by this artist.
Did you have my fun fact song as well?
Did you know about that?
Well, let's get to it and we'll talk about it.
Okay.
Here we go.
Okay.
Smooth.
Bones sinking like stones
all that we fall for
Home's places we've grown
Dedicating this song
to Damian cards
We live in a beautiful world
Yeah we do
We live in a beautiful world
Bones sinking like stones all that we've
far before
homes places we've grown
All of us are done for
We live in a beautiful world
I'm bringing it down because your car has to be moved by 1230.
I've got a note from the boss.
For Springsteen called me.
It's the first song in Copeland's first album, Parachutes.
Came out in 2000, yeah, 99.
Yeah, around there, yeah.
You're supposed to know this stuff, Rob.
Yeah, it's around that time.
It's your fucking jam.
It's around that time.
But, you know, co-play has become so ubiquitous in our world that it's, when I go back
and listen to this album, straight through, start to finish.
I'm like, oh, it takes me right back to the turn of the century.
and I love the sound of it.
This sounds like way rawer, if that's a word.
Yeah.
Way more raw.
It's cooler.
I find it cool.
It was more like what I like.
Me too.
It's way cooler, yeah, for sure.
That first sound which I owned.
Yep.
I was tricked into thinking Cole Play was a pretty cool band.
They were cool for a lot.
Yeah, that thing they were.
I feel better because even the next one, no rush of blood to the head.
I had that and I thought that was pretty good.
They were, they were starting to ride on, get a little bit to the edge of the road at that point, though, even to me.
Chuck Klosterman, greatest line ever.
I fucking hate Coleplay.
He opened his book, one of his.
really with it yeah but it was he did and the funny thing is he didn't hate cole yeah he just hated
what they stood for sure yeah and he said that in since then uh yeah they're one of the they're
they're polarizing but they represented at the turn of the century they represented a sound
yeah that was moving forward as far as here's some new music here's CDs before streaming came
along they were in some film like indie films I almost yeah yeah almost thought this was like
could have been stereophonic yeah which is like way cooler than gold play course right big hit fans
Yeah, their heuraphonics.
And, because I saw them at an edge fest or something,
doing fiddlers green or something.
They cover, yeah.
But I have a hip fact for you real quick before I lose it.
Hot Buttered Soul.
Yeah.
Which we heard that song, I can't say.
Was recorded in the same studio as up to here by the tragically.
Oh, down in New Orleans?
Memphis.
Memphis.
Sorry, okay.
New Orleans is sinking.
Yeah, that's a fun fact from the VP here.
And Canada Kev says that he would take cold play before Nickelback.
Oh, yeah.
well yeah probably yeah yeah I would too
it's a style preference right
it's a genre preference
yeah for sure
but that's cool
so what's the name of the song
Leslie loves to panic
called don't panic
yeah never says don't panic
never says don't panic
and who's doing the background vocals
as soon as a female in there
no it's just I think it's still Chris
just doing her music
maybe it's Paul Languall
there you go
so play my other one
I discovered this not until just last night
and I didn't know this about
because I don't know enough about cold play
they released an EP a year
before the album came out
oh for so and this was on it
It's a little looser, yeah.
A little tricky.
Yeah.
It is.
With the keyboard in the background is kind of cool.
Who knows to you?
Is this the first Rob Bruce 90s song?
No.
I've picked these.
Maybe.
I always, when they first came out, I thought they were U2S.
Yeah, oh, for sure, very comparable.
So this is like a little bit of a looser version.
It's a little rarer, even though it's got like the keyboard to give it sort of like an ambient vibe as well.
But it's something really cool to know that they trusted the song enough to re-record it and strip it down.
And it fits more of the vibe, but they actually.
album than this.
Have you ever seen him talk about, what's the one?
Look at the stars.
Look at how they say.
Is that the science?
Yellow.
Yellow.
Right.
So yellow was kind of their biggest tip, right?
Have you heard him talk about how that, that he wrote that?
They were sitting in the studio waiting to do something.
And he's just kind of sitting on the piano.
Yeah.
And he was literally doing a Neil Young impression with his voice.
Wow.
And then he says, it goes, and then it just came to him.
The song was written in 15 minutes.
Wow.
And he was like, look at this.
He was doing a Neil Young impression.
That's so cool.
find it online him talking about it's really great that's really neat i like them i do like them i
kind of hate every second album though it feels that way like one album's great for me one album's i i don't
i really like this recent stuff they did where they were collaborating with like bt s yeah
and other people and i think it's neat because they're reaching all new audiences yes they're trying
new shit that i think it's kind of cool it's cool that they're trying new shit yeah well this was
cool to get rob pruss back in the basement and close the show and thank you for my
Broadway's own Rob Pruse in the basement.
Bob, it's your moment, man.
Oh, man.
I'm excited.
Bob Willett is going to announce the next topic for October Toad.
Okay, so I'm of two minds here.
Number one.
They're very similar, I think.
Because it's fall.
I prefer autumn, if you don't mind.
Okay, because it's autumn.
there's there's a
and I could just totally steal
the theme of my podcast
and make us do songs like that
but I think I want to do
and this will guarantee
that these are songs that we haven't kicked
out on toast but I want you guys to bring
three songs that profoundly
affected you.
Ooh.
Songs that have profoundly affected you
that you haven't kicked out.
And do we need a reason?
Yeah, I want to hear the story.
I want to hear why
it profoundly affected.
It didn't necessarily change.
Can they all be Nickelback songs?
Yeah.
If they,
if all three profoundly affected you,
yes.
If they made you vomit for,
for instance,
then yeah,
that would be...
Baw to Bob,
I kid rock.
Yeah,
that's one for sure.
That profoundly affected you.
Yeah,
break stuff by...
I'm taking a note.
All right.
Yeah.
Is that too ambiguous?
No,
I mean,
I can't veto it,
but I find it too personal.
Oh, but I want...
But I thought you said it's about us.
But we went...
At the previous incarnation of toast,
it was pitched by Stu Stone.
We kick out three songs
from our...
three favorite concerts and I vetoed that one because how is this the
listenership thinking I don't know how do they relate that this is your own
personal well but I think like Bob says though if you tell a story you want to have a
little bit of I can't veto this I'm not vetoing it I don't have this power
but it's your it's your if you guys I the other one is songs about change no no but
you guys can vote if you want I'll you know songs about change or so you have to
choose Bobolet yeah yeah I'm gonna make a choice right now I think I think I think
songs that have profoundly affected you I like but I like the second part of it
where you need to tell a bit of the story about it.
You need to tell us why. Yeah.
Like, you heard this song and you were like, oh, my God.
Yeah.
Like that's, and whether, whether it be because it sounded,
you saw it at a certain place.
Yes. And that it affected you.
Yep. Or you, you were going to, you, you,
came upon your, your radar somehow and you heard the lyrics and you went, wow.
It would be funny if Rob kicked out three jams.
He just discovered, well, Googling songs that profoundly affected me.
That could affect me.
That could affect me profoundly. Songs that have perfected.
But what I like is the idea that you have to use your own judgment as far as how
how deep are you going to go in what?
The effect is.
I love that.
You know,
they dis,
songs,
I guess,
yeah,
it's profoundly affected,
you could mean anything.
So that's the open part.
Yep.
Done deal.
I have no veto power.
This is happening.
You made that up.
I dig it.
So we're not doing
spooky Halloween songs.
Yeah,
let's do that.
All right,
thanks,
guys.
So, Rob,
you'll let us know
when you can return in October.
It'll be for sure.
And that
brings us to the end
of our 1,7755th show.
go to tronelonelmike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs.
Much love to all who made this possible.
That is, Patron's like...
You owe me a new headset, Rob Pruse.
You better have it with you in October.
Patrons like you. Patreon.com slash Toronto Mike.
Become a member.
I've never promoted it before, so we're going to see how this works.
Great Lakes Brewery, of course.
Palma Pasta.
Toronto's Waterfront, VIA, Recycle My Electronics.C.A,
Blue Sky Agency, and Ridley Funeral Home.
I'm going to my calendar to tell you my next guest on Toronto Mic.
Is...
It's actually a rewinder with Blair Packham.
So it's a quarterly thing we do, 2.15 on Thursday.
Blair Packham in the basement.
And then Friday...
Lauren Honnickman returns.
Don't miss either of those great episodes, I'm sure.
See you all.
Oh, and Kathleen Robertson is in the calendar to visit the next week.
So Kathleen Robertson in the basement, peace and love.
Bye.
