Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Lyricless Title Jams #TOAST45: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1755

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

In this 1755th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 45th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette and a special surprise guest as they kick out songs with titles that don't appear in t...he lyrics. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, the Waterfront BIA, Blue Sky Agency and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Yeah I'm gonna think about it so F-O-T-M's Do you know what time it is? It's Toast time Toast Featuring Steve Stoke
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Starting point is 00:02:07 it's Bob Willett. And back in the basement, it's Rob Pruse. Hello, hello, hello, hello. Excuse me, Broadway's own Rob Proust. Would you like to be billed as broadway? Are you on Broadway or off Broadway? I'm in the pit. I'm on Broadway.
Starting point is 00:02:23 This dude is not off Broadway? Come on. In the pit on Broadway. Is that like a, that question? inappropriate, like, how dare I doubt you? Like, would you do off-Broadway? Oh, yeah, I have done off-Broadway as well. Sure.
Starting point is 00:02:35 You'd slum it off-on-and-off. For the right gig. But the distinction of between being in the pit and on the stage is nothing, is it? Is that something? No, I mean, no, because if you're a musician, you're lucky to be working on Broadway or off-right or anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I feel free paid to be a musician in general, right?
Starting point is 00:02:50 I feel super fortunate about it. So, yeah. On Broadway. That's right. Does that song bounce around your head all day? Nope. Ha. So that song.
Starting point is 00:02:59 has on Broadway is the name of that song, right? And that is a lyric in the song. So today we're going to kick out songs, and I have some examples before we get to it, but we're going to kick out songs where the title of the song is not a lyric in the song. Right. It's a good topic. The Iris topic, because when I heard song Exploder breaking down Iris, it was, by the Goo Goo Goo Dolls, Buffalo Zone. It didn't occur to me until I heard it said aloud. I never really thought about it. Sometimes you don't think about what titles have to do with the lyrics. But the word Iris does not. appear in the song, Iris.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yep. Okay. So this, I have crunched the numbers. I want to do a little catching up, but I'm going to explain there's not much to catch up on because this is the shortest time ever between two episodes of toast.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And yet they're a month apart. Well, technically. September 2nd and August, what was it? It was one week ago today. It was Tuesday. So is this also, have you had the same guests on within a week? Ooh. Yeah, I had back to back with Broad Black.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I think I had within the same week, Kevin Hearn. Like two days in a row? Yeah. Like not just one episode or one episode recorded? I just talked to Rob about this. So if I had one episode, even if it was a main, like Brian Trache was three, three times we connected throughout the day. Yeah. And that was one episode.
Starting point is 00:04:15 If I record multiple times in a day, I make that one episode. Rod Black was back to back two different nights. Like we did part one and then the next night we got together and did part two. Right. That's cool. So there's a different, yeah. Okay. That's different days then.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Two different days. Absolutely. But it is interesting that we recorded August's toast last Tuesday. Just a week ago. And here we are for September's toast. Yes. Well, you can really never have enough toast. No.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Toast is awesome. Toast, yeah. I 100% agree Bob Willett because if, you know, sometimes these fancy brunches and stuff. And all I want is like, give me a couple of slices of toast and maybe a little jam. Sure. I like, yeah, yeah, I mean, peanut butter. I'll do honey. Yeah, I don't mind some honey as well.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Do you like peanut butter? Do you like peanut butter and honey? I do like peanut butter. So peanut butter and honey I like, but I don't actually like it on toast as much as I just like it on like a good piece of bread. Okay. Like a fresh piece of bread? Like a fresh piece of multi-grained bread or something. Let me smear on some peanut butter, but all natural peanut butter, like the kind that has to go in the fridge or whatever.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And some honey. And I think that would be heaven right there. Yeah. It'd be hard to talk. It would be hard to do the show. Oh, yeah. Peanut butter on the roof on the roof. That would be a rookie mistake.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah, that's right. If we kicked out the jams with peanut butter. I haven't. What have I've eaten. a banana so far today and Rockstar Energy drink. That's what I've had. Crack that beer.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Is that an indie sponsor? I feel like Bob's living off the freebies at the Indy 88. No, there's not a lot of it. You know what? The freebies are far and few. I've got to be honest. But you did say there was Great Lakes Beer there.
Starting point is 00:05:46 There was Great Lakes Beer there when they signed to promote their event, the big event. Brood for You Fest. Yeah, Bird for You Fest. Which was last weekend. And the fine folks at the opportunity
Starting point is 00:06:02 in place helped me out a lot oh my god let's watch them like die on the vine I know here we'll insert this in post no I know what is it what are they called they love this okay
Starting point is 00:06:13 yeah hang on I have them right here do they have their name Hakeem no it's not Hakeem no it's smaller than that okay all right
Starting point is 00:06:20 Dresden Dresden Dresden there's one on college and one on on you know Dresden I just watched a documentary about Eminem and it's called
Starting point is 00:06:29 Stans and they kind of basically it's just about Eminem's whole career in life but they bring in super fans that are like stands of Eminem and he talks about going back to Detroit to the home he grew up in on Dresden like this was the name of the street interesting that's funny
Starting point is 00:06:44 I don't know just he said Dresden and his house has got they condemned it and tore it and tore it down yes because he wanted to buy it but the city would not sell it to him because it was condemned remember that scene in Mad Men when he takes the kids back to visit the house where he grew up.
Starting point is 00:06:58 The whorehouse. Are you allowed to say that? Yeah, sure. You just reminded me of that. That whole was amazing. Okay. Sorry. That's true.
Starting point is 00:07:04 It's still resonating in my head. I love what it sticks with you. Yeah. It really does. Right, Bob? Like I, uh, sometimes I have a lot of shit to do. And I'm like, I kind of want to just go for a bike ride. And then I hear the character Fred.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Was it Fred? Freddy saying, do the work, Dawn. Like he comes in my, I can see him. Oh, wow. That's a Bill Murray's brother who played Freddy or whatever. So these are these moments in Madman come back to me. It's a show that I mean that's a sign of great art
Starting point is 00:07:30 If it sticks with you When you're not thinking about When you're like it's just out of the blue It's part of you It becomes part of your makeup Yep That you just reminded me of a quote Of something I was just listening to this week
Starting point is 00:07:40 And it was on like creativity And like inspirational kind of stuff And the quote from I don't remember who the quote was from He said if you work really hard You might get lucky There you go Got to be prepared
Starting point is 00:07:50 Wonderful quote Let me write that down And attribute it to Rob Pruth So everything is fucked Oh, this was 10 minutes ago wrote that. Was that something we were talking about... We were talking about this author, Mark Manson.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Oh, Mark Manson. His book is... The book is called The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck. Oh, yeah, I know him. Yeah. We were talking about long-form podcast. He's got a new podcast series.
Starting point is 00:08:10 So let's ask a podcaster, Bob's basement. You can subscribe today. Loretta Swit was a previous guest, and then she died. Shout out of Lally Feeder home. Yeah. But, Bob, if you recorded... Let's go back.
Starting point is 00:08:21 You recorded two and a half hours of compelling, interesting content with somebody. Okay? would you drop it as one episode? No, I'd break it up. See, can you explain why? Because I just, maybe it's many years and years in broadcast in mainstream broadcast, but I just don't think people have that kind of time.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Don't they pause podcasts? Yeah, but I'd rather, I'd rather have them choose to come, like, I'll let me choose when, if they want to keep going, go for it. But here's a great opportunity to take a breath. It's just, that's all. See, I feel like that's their choice to take the fucking breath. Like, who are you? you to tell your listener to take a breath. I directed the show. I, you know, I produced the show.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's like, that's like saying George Lucas, who are you to end this, end this story? But would you drop them at the same time, or would it be like a week apart or something? It depends on what the situation is. I, you know, I may be, I may be giving more attention coming up to the podcast next little bit. So I, uh, I'd have to think about it. I probably would, I'd spread it out probably. It's sort of like chapters in a book. Yeah. But then it's like, oh, here's an hour Bob's giving you of this guest. You want another hour, come back in a week and I'll give you the other hour. Yeah, but we all don't have, but we all don't have the base of huge numbers that you have
Starting point is 00:09:35 here at the Toronto, Mike, Empire. But don't, wouldn't that, okay, I'm just, I'm only asking because our chat, Rob and I had when we were waiting for you, Mr. Woodlight, is that, um, I can't remember how it came up, but somebody was doing multi-part episodes, maybe? How did it come up? Oh, um, was it the guy who, oh, no, it was history of rock music in 500 stories. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, this, yeah, he's breaking down some of those episodes, and he's but I think it's taking him so much time to finish them because he does a lot of editing us, as you know.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Yeah. It's not like us where he just, you know. You just throw it up. So I feel like he can only finish an hour, so he'll give you the hour while he works on the next hour, which is a different animal to me. Right. Okay, well, just an interesting discussion.
Starting point is 00:10:14 That's podcasters. Would you, if you, see, if I had a five-hour episode of a compelling guest, that's one episode. Man, that guest better be amazing for five hours. Honestly, man, like five hours? That was episode 1,000. Multiple guests. That's multiple guests.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And also, I don't know anybody who sat in, like, I don't, I don't know, find me somebody, if they sat on their own and listened to that for five hours straight. But I don't, I don't have that expectation. Like, so my point is if you had, let's say, three hours. Wiseblot, Mark Wiseblot would come over once a month, you would do three hours. It was going to be three hours. Never did I have a moment of like, oh, this is a, that was compelling. That was a two-parter.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah. And if you, you know, you're right, it's not for everybody, but if you're a Rob, who enjoys the content or whatever, you will decide when, like, what speed to listen to it at, when you're going to pause, when you want to break from it for a different show, and you'll come back to it, because you control your own destiny with the world of podcasting.
Starting point is 00:11:08 It's interesting to say that when you have 1,700 plus episodes, but when you have 80-something like me or 90-something, it almost looks, it feels better to be able to put that into two episodes. So you're patting the stats. It's not patting the stats. It's still the equivalent. All of my episodes are around an hour. If somebody goes two hours,
Starting point is 00:11:23 I'm going to split it into two. Okay. Interesting food, thought. Okay. Hey ref likes our video set up and just to tell the people listening. They hate or like? No, likes. Because we have one camera on you two and you two fit in one frame right now. So don't move. You kept trying so hard to get us into one camera. Because you distance yourself from Bob. I do. Does he smell? No, he smells great actually. Yeah, no. Well, then get closer to the guy.
Starting point is 00:11:46 This looks okay. I'm now, and again, I don't know why. I don't know why I have black bars on the side of my camera. Like, what is what aspect ratio are you looking for? but I'm in like the middle center and I think I will put this on YouTube and I have toast over my head out and okay so I want to just say hello to people on the live stream so that's Mike that's VP of sales
Starting point is 00:12:09 although he calls himself VP of no sales yeah do the work done he thinks about that all the time too and I do like I try not I like to be a man of action like Hamlet or whatever so if I have a thought of my head about procrastinating on some
Starting point is 00:12:22 crappy work I got to do because there's fun work and then there's like the media work or whatever, I will hear that Freddie say, do the work, Don, and then I'll do the work. It's like, I listen to the guy.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Okay, and I know it's a voice in my head, and maybe I should be concerned about that, because I am drain damaged. But Canada Kev is here. Hey, also in the live stream, let me know if you're going to be at the Who tonight, okay? Let me know. Moose Grumpy says,
Starting point is 00:12:45 hello. I saw that Leslie was there. Ward 044 says, I used to miss all these live streams, but I got a tap on the shoulder from one of the banks in July. and have been walking daily since then and I've been catching up on many Toronto mic pods
Starting point is 00:13:01 always love the toast episodes the most. Nice. That's quite a thing. Rob Delmundo was chiming in with some of his favorite songs where the title is not repeated in the lyrics. So a lot of good people on the live stream last week when we did this.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Oh, I see. VP will be at the Who tonight. This is going to come up with a song. I'm going to play in a moment that ties in with the theme here. So I'm going to get to that in just a moment. But last week, Rob, you were on Zoom. So remind me what changed that last week you had to be on Zoom, but this week you can be in the basement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 That's your turn now to tell me what changed in that one week. Why couldn't you be in the basement last week? Well, I explained, I alluded to it last week because we were getting settled into the run, the Broadway Mamma Mia, and I had a substitute musician who was learning the show for me to cover me when I want to go take a couple days off. And she did a performance on the weekend, and then I was able to book her. for this week, which is why I was like, peace out. So she's, she's fantastic.
Starting point is 00:13:59 A friend of mine, Gillian Berkowitz is her name. She's a great musician. Any relation to Jack Berkowitz from Omni Jewel Crafters? No, different spelling. But I booked her right away. Yeah, I listened to that while I was driving yesterday. But anyway, so I'm able to take the time off and now be here. And so my plan now is for the run of the show, which is about six months.
Starting point is 00:14:17 I'm going to be here once a month. Yes, for sure. And you also tie that in with a visit to mother. See my mom and my sisters. Yeah, it's great. just here to see Bob and I. No, but I'm so glad it all works out this way. So are we, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:28 Did you know there's a Burlington in a street called Burlington and Mimico? Nope. I bike it all the time. I was on it today. Burlington's in Mimico, and I think that would be near where VP lives here. Cool. So you listen to Jack Berkovitz? I listened to some of it.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I didn't make my way all the way through it. I sort of pieced out after a certain point. I listened to this all the way through. Did you listen to the next episode? Yeah, I listen to this all the way through. Now, I know Bob's busy. He's on the air like eight days a week. He doesn't have time, but.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Sophie B Hawkins Damn was on Toronto mic on Friday That was the most recent episode And I thought she was great What did you think Rob? I thought she was really charming My favorite point was where she was yelling out
Starting point is 00:15:08 To her neighbors I've got the wine Like her South African neighbor All of a sudden in the middle of your conversation I'll play a little clip of my favorite part in a moment Humble Howard Glasson is calling me Oh wow Do you want to answer it?
Starting point is 00:15:20 Why is he calling you? He's calling you not me You answer it That'd be funny if you answered it? That'd be funny. If you want, sure. Which doesn't matter. Pause the recording.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Pause the recording. Good afternoon. Good morning, Hubble Howard. This is Toronto Mike's answering service, Bingle Bob Blett. Oh my God. Hello there, Mike's friend. We're just currently recording an episode here with
Starting point is 00:15:43 Canadian superstar Broadway's own Rob Pruse and sitting here his phone rang and I thought I'd answer it. Well, this is a lot to take in for an old man on a Tuesday morning. It's time to get serious. I think about you every day. Every day after Labor Day, I think about time to get serious. Well, it is time to get serious.
Starting point is 00:16:05 That's right. Okay, well, does he have 30 seconds, or should I call him back later? No, I can do it. No, he can do it right now. Oh, here, here, he's not to pass him over there. There you go. He's right there. Bobby, my sweet love, mom.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Yes, I love you. Mike, what do you mean me? I didn't understand your note about the encoding on my image. MP3s all of a sudden. Yeah, I know. It started a few weeks. Here we go. Real talk.
Starting point is 00:16:27 This is real talk. We're currently listening to a Toronto mic having a conversation with Howard Glassman, also known as Humble Howard. They're speaking on some business matters, and we will rejoin the show shortly. Please. There's a setting somewhere with how you encode your MP3 where we have to change that or so. He doesn't know how to do that. It's technical discussion.
Starting point is 00:16:49 We're doing it the same way using that, using, um, Howard is still asking a question It's a technical question Oh, we look fantastic on the live stream Mike has technical knowledge that Holder Howard does not have currently So when they're done We'll get back to our topic at hand
Starting point is 00:17:12 Again we apologize for the delay In the performance We will resume shortly. This is riveting. As you know, Toronto, Mike doesn't do any editing of his episode. I can't even love it. And he prefers to have no cuts in his show.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Oh, that's true. I want to feel edit this out for the actual episode. Mike will keep this in. Did Sophie B. Hawkins come into the basement? No, it was live stream. Oh, I'm surprised. Yeah, he allowed. Bye, love you.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm surprised he allowed Sophie B. Hawkins to be streamed. We now resume. regularly scheduled luncheon. So Sophie came. Is that still there? Okay. Sophie came via a very famous, I think he's famous because of his Twitter account or sign,
Starting point is 00:18:05 but Eric Alper asked me, would you talk to Sophie B. Hawkins? And because he literally drove Gino Vanelli over. Yeah. Some of my favorite episodes were like Eric Elper, I'm driving this person over. So I said, as a favorite to him, I said yes. Yeah. And it's Sophie B. Hawkins. That's a huge hit. Yeah, I don't know, like, I didn't know what I would chat with her about, but it was easy to chat with her.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah. You guys had a good repartre, raparte. Reparte. Reporte is the word, yeah. Rapporte, yeah, yeah. I got a note today, I had a bunch of feedback from Jack and then also Sophie, and they were very different feedback. But did you think Rob at any moment Sophie was flirting with me? No. Okay, I got a note today about how they think Sophie was hitting on me.
Starting point is 00:18:51 No, I think it's just the Raspi voice. It's just, she probably, everybody probably thinks she's hitting on them. Because she's omnisexual. So she's only attracted to Omni Jewel Crafter. Yes, exactly. There you go. That's right. But no, it was a really good conversation.
Starting point is 00:19:04 And I was thinking about it, like, she's carved a career out of a hit song, which a lot of pop musicians do. And for her to, like, remain in the public's mind, as soon as you hear the name, Sophie B. Hawkins, and if you were around in 1992, you're like, of course I know that song. Yeah. That's just, but her other song, which is what, don't, don't, lay down. I forgot all about that one. Lay me down. That was a hit. Yep, that was a hit as well.
Starting point is 00:19:25 And she said it was like on the charts even longer or something. Well, I was on a different chart. Like, it was on the adult contemporary chart or whatever for a long, like for over a year. Yeah. But this one was like a top 40 hit. Yep. This one right here. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:37 So I'm going to play the little clip here before I give us an example of a song we might kick out. Have a drink. Yeah. Okay. So we have Great Lakes beer here. The premium logger was sent over for a while. Crack it on the mic. There we go.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Thank you. Okay, so thank you to Great Lakes Brewery. Bob's got a Canuck Pale Ale. Go ahead, Rob, Bob. You have the same name, you guys. Oh, lovely. That sounds lovely. Okay, I actually have to finish my coffee
Starting point is 00:20:03 before I crack one. But this is a three-second clip from the Sophie B. Hawkins episode. Okay. Do you know you're really handsome? Do your listeners know that? Oh, see, you're so funny. How many times do you listen to that?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Oh, he looped that shit on Instagram. Well, Instagram looped it for me. Okay. I made it my ringtone. if you call me when Humble calls me now. How she's looking? I got to see her.
Starting point is 00:20:24 You know, she's looking good. She's about, she's 60. She's almost, she's my age. So, Rob, when do you turn 60, Rob? In 23 fucking days. Oh, wow. So we won't see you again. Next time we see you, you'll be a sextetarian.
Starting point is 00:20:38 It'll be a senior. It's so weird. When did the discounts kick in? 55, actually. I haven't been taking advantage of them. So, Bob, when do you turn 50? January. See, that's exciting.
Starting point is 00:20:47 The Kyle Stone birthdays is because I cleared mine a year ago. and I don't have another one till I get to, I guess, till I get to Rob's age. That's exciting that you're going to turn 60. It's not exciting. It's fine. It's a something. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:59 I think that's exciting here. Sophie Ballantine Hawkins. Is Ballantine what it is? I always want to say. Valentin is her mom's name. It's her Scottish heritage. Wow. Oh, that's lovely.
Starting point is 00:21:09 And you know what? Doing that for Eric is great. Eric is awesome. Yeah, Eric. And it was like, I'll talk to him. He gets a lot of heat online, man. People hate him, but I like him.
Starting point is 00:21:16 But they hate him because he uses bots or he just repeats. He just repeats. He. He schedules his stuff. Like, it's not authentic. It's all the stuff I hate, really. It's like when, it's like an AI almost. He was just, he was doing it before anybody else.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It was like, on this day, this or how many hamburgers can you eat? But also, if you notice, he'll put up this thing and it'll get a huge response. And he doesn't engage. No, he doesn't at all. But it's worked for him. He's built the audience somehow without the, without the response. I got him on CNN, okay? Only the greats end up on CNN.
Starting point is 00:21:46 It's true. I've never, I couldn't even imagine what that would do for my life. I mean, you might be able to get out of your basement if you keep going on CNN. They haven't called in a while. Bob, I have a question. Yeah. Your radio station, Indy 88,
Starting point is 00:21:58 did this countdown all long weekend. Was it 500 feel good songs? The feel good 500. I look through that whole chart. I'm not on that chart anywhere. No spoons or no honeymoon suite? Neither one. But the rest of the chart is right.
Starting point is 00:22:10 I read nothing to do with it. I know. The chart is great. Can I ask about this is, so I'm asking this as a radio listener guy. So I reel, we've talked quite a bit about how the playlist on Indy 88 is more. surfing before our eyes.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Absolutely. More mainstream. What would you call this? I would call casting a wider net. Okay. But this chart, to me, there were songs that were being played in Indy 88 that I've never, I don't think of ever been played in Eighty and they'll never get played again. But that's my, and I wondered if it was somehow a gateway to changing things even more.
Starting point is 00:22:39 No, if you listen today, we're back to kind of what we were before the 500. Look, here's the thing. There are some hardcore indie, old school indie list. who are very much upset with these changes. But the fact of the matter is the radio station would cease to exist if they kept doing what they were doing. Shades of CFNY when they started playing Peter Gabriel and Madonna. And then there was outrage from the court.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Right. So, but here's the thing. We know now because we have daily and weekly numbers, this last two weeks, we've been the number one or number two radio station in the city. And a lot of it has to do with some of the promotions we're doing. We'll see what this week is like. There's been some programming changes. There's some other things going on that I'm not privy to.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I'm not in the programming department. I can only do it as part of the team. And I will be back on this weekend. So, cool. That's amazing. I need to know what's going on. Yeah. As programming changes at Indy88, I'm naturally curious.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I'm not even here to throw stones. Do I understand what you're saying business-wise? Yeah, business-wise. Yeah, as for the music and stuff, like I said, I don't really have anything to say. I just, uh, I will, uh, I have a little bit of a reduced role right now, so. The truth is you have to move with the time. What does that mean reduced role? I'm not doing evenings.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Oh. Yeah. Yeah. How many days a week are you on? I said you're on eight days a week. Yeah, not anymore. How many days are you on? Two.
Starting point is 00:24:03 All right. When did this happen? I feel upset. Last week. You didn't tell me. I did not. This is the announcement. This is, there's, there's, there's things to be said still.
Starting point is 00:24:12 All right. But I'm not. Not saying them yet. Is this because they played Bon Jovi yesterday? Yeah, that's true. I quit because, because no, yeah. Knicklebacks. No,
Starting point is 00:24:20 I actually don't hate nickelback. You know what? Everything is in flux right now. And I have, yeah, it's,
Starting point is 00:24:28 we'll see. I don't, I don't really have anything official to say. You chose an industry that's going to break your heart. I fucking know. Don't get me started.
Starting point is 00:24:38 And I feel like you were working at that exhibition, casino. Casino, yeah. Like you had literally accepted that radio was done with you.
Starting point is 00:24:46 And then you got this lifeline. And then we saw Happy Ball Oh, my gosh, yeah. Like, he was so happy. Yeah. Bob's not happy right now. No, I can tell that.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I can't get into the details yet. All right. But it's, uh, I'm glad we're here for you, though. Everything's in flux. Okay. I know you can't say any details. Does it have anything to do of the big change in terms of who's selling the ads on Indy 88 now? There's no big change.
Starting point is 00:25:11 But it sounds like Bell Media is now part of it. Bell Media does our national sales. That happens at all small radio stations. Well, that I don't know. Oh yeah. Well, yes, it does. No, no, I mean, I don't know that. Oh, you don't know that. Yeah. So what happens is your national sales, if you have a smaller team like this, you can use CBS, which is actually run by Corr. Rogers. You could use Bell Media, which is Bell. And there's one other, which is Sting.
Starting point is 00:25:37 I actually think, I actually think Stingray actually uses Bell Media as well. So there's a relationship between all of them. That's boom, right? Yep. And so they all, so yeah, our national sales will go through Bell, Bell, Bell, will sell for us. Okay. Yeah. On the national side, because we wouldn't have that connection to those buyers on the local side.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah. I'm upset. You're not on eight days a week anymore. Yeah, me too. Jeez, okay, we'll talk offline. Okay. Rob Proust, what's the name of this booze song?
Starting point is 00:26:07 It's called like Baba O'Reilly. That's it. Okay, Bubba O'Reilly. Everybody wants to call a teenage wasteland. Yep. It's a great example. Do you know Bubba O'Reilly is not included in the lyrics to this song from the Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:20 I'm aware of that fact. Well, okay, we're educating somebody. So this would have been an appropriate song to kick out during today's toes. But none of us are kicking in that. So none of us did, huh? Apparently. I wanted to play it because I'm at the Who tonight. Nice.
Starting point is 00:26:34 You're going tonight. That's so cool. That was your $11 ticket. I love that man. Good for you. 2111 because they threw $10 and service charges. So fun fact. So I went to an event at, do you know where, maybe Bob, you'll know.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Do you know where Allen Burry Gardens is? I've heard of it. Alan Burry Gardens? Ellenberry? I hope I said that right. Alan, like, A-L-L-E-N, B-U-R-Y, not Allen Gardens. No, I don't know. This is a neighborhood near the Fairview Mall. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:00 I guess that's North York, right? Yeah, Shepherd and Don Mills and Shepherd. So this is where Snow grew up. Yeah. And he had a free party for members of the community to celebrate like a revitalization project that's been completed. It looks really cool there. And it's like bouncy castles. And music and free barbecue and free drinks and free ice cream.
Starting point is 00:27:23 You had an ice cream truck there. It's just, oh, so this happened already. I went on Saturday. Oh, okay. Be careful. Don't drink in Bounty Castle. I love it. I don't think they let guys like me into those bouncy castles.
Starting point is 00:27:33 But, um, okay, so all this I'm at, and I'm, I bumped into Paul Farberman. Paul Farberman's sister passed away. My sincere condolences to Paul. And he sat Shiva for seven days. Do you know about this, Bob? sitting Shiva? I know about sitting Shiva, yes. I don't, I've never done it. Have you visited anybody sitting Shiva? I have not. Me neither. I have. But he told me, so Rob, he told me, because he's sitting Shiva for seven days. He says he gets one hour a day
Starting point is 00:28:02 to leave. Wow. And he chose to go to that event. Well, because he's close of snow. Right. Right. Disappoint snow. And I bump into him and I, we were just chatting. I said, I'm at the who on Tuesday. He goes, I'm at the who Tuesday. And then he said, I can get you into the lake house. Do you guys know what the lake house is? Yeah. Nope. It's great. Yeah. So if you're looking at the stage,
Starting point is 00:28:22 it's to the left end over to the American Express, uh, lounges, above it is the lake house. Oh, you're going to be there for the who? Well, he said,
Starting point is 00:28:30 meet me at six and there's like a little fair. You take a little boat over. You have a 30 second ferry ride. Yep. Yep. I actually politely decline the invitation because my, my feeling is I, I kind of want to just bike over,
Starting point is 00:28:42 stand in the lawns and soak in Tom Cochran at seven. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I actually turn down the lake house. Because you are a man of the. Well, there's nothing free in the lakehouse either. Like, you can go to the lake house, but it's expensive as hell. I didn't really feel like having like a $65 burger.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Right. Which is, yeah, it's a $35 burger, to be fair. Well, if they put fries in there, maybe it's $65. No, I've had it. So I politely declined the invitation to the lakehouse tonight, but I will be on the lawns with the other great unwashed schlubs and maybe the great VP of sales and Tom Cochran, 730. And then the Who?
Starting point is 00:29:14 And then the Who at 840. Absolutely. You know, all the concessions at the Live Nation venues are all done. by Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment, right? It's like this evil cabal if you ask. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the amount of money that they make is just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Bob, do you know this band? Somebody's covering the move. I like it, whatever it is. Whoever it is. One direction. What? One D. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Wow. But that's the thing. Oh, my God, that's funny. This is not a cover of Bubble Riley. This is their version of ripping it off. Wow. That's cool, though. I like that.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Because when you know, you know. Do they get a writing credit? No, no writing credit. The chords are different. They asked Pete Townshend what he thought, and he said that, oh, we did the same thing when we were starting out, we were influenced, and he said it was an honor. Yeah, it's fine. Most of the good ones do that.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Most of the ones who are, like, honestly, like, you talk to Tom Petty about the, you know, the red-hot chili pepper is doing there. And you know, who so's the motherfucking estates of the people who die. It's the state to are dead. Yeah, yeah. It's true. That's what I say. themselves.
Starting point is 00:30:19 No, they're like, whatever. Marvin Gay would have been like, it's fine. I love it. That's right. And that one bugs me because it's a mood. We talked about this on last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a vibe.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's not a melody they ripped off. It's a vibe. And I feel like that's literally what, you remember when Weird Al would record a song as if Devo wrote it, but it wasn't a Devo song? Yeah, of course. Ed Shearin said in the last time he went, I think he was in front of Congress, actually.
Starting point is 00:30:41 And he said, if this keeps up, I will never make music again. He said, this is, and like, he's like, there's, it's not, it's not, I'm not copying anybody. There's only so many chords And we only do so many things The only people who pretend to care are lawyers Who don't know shit about music And families who are greedy motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:30:55 No, it's true I have an opinion about that Yes, you do, as you should Ed Sheeran is a stand Yeah And he's all over this Stan's documentary Oh wow, I can't wait to see it Eminem
Starting point is 00:31:05 Fun fact here Okay, so I have one more good example I just thought it was interesting That this one direct stuff Which is called Best Song Ever It's got a whole Best song ever I didn't even read the I don't think I ever paid attention
Starting point is 00:31:16 to the opening before I love it It's like one of their first hits, I think. Is it really? I think so. I don't know for sure. I feel like Elvis is a big fan. You know, I know, I know, I know, you know, I'm here is this from?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Early 2000s. Oh, yeah, I'm not even early probably. Those OO's that everybody's like Mugford and Sons and everybody's. It's the best song ever 2015 Oh, it's the same era It's the Mumford and Sun's era Everybody's O-O-O-O-O-O-N
Starting point is 00:31:56 Spider-O-O-O-N. Just another song I considered I do love this song This song is called Bullet with Butterfly Wings And there's no reference to bullets Or butterfly wings in this song So this would have been
Starting point is 00:32:14 an appropriate song to kick out as well. I knew there was going to be some Smashing Pumpkin song somewhere. I didn't search deep enough to find one because I already had three. So I noticed, let's talk about our process here because I realize there's so many fucking rad songs that the title does not appear. There's such a wealth of good material. And some artists do this a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:32 And I feel like Smashing Pumpkins is one of the artists that likes to have the name of their song, not be a lyric in there. Bob, was it easy for you to come up with your three. Yeah, I had two right away, like right, like immediately. Like as soon as you said it, I'm like, okay, I know my first one. And that's the one, the first one that I'll do that I thought, for sure you'd caught me would have had as well here let's just share this so the first song that after this iris inspired topic bob and i both thought of the same song did you oh yeah
Starting point is 00:32:56 in fact last week when bob said on the recording he said something like i already thought of one in my mind i was like i was gonna say it i'm like don't don't spoil it that's funny and then i actually when i i'm i came up of my three jams first i did not choose that jam because i said you knew yeah you guys you're simple co-s simpa or just simple that's all but but In this vein of a grunge, if you will, I just want to play a song here real quick. And while this bruise, I want to say thank you to Palma Pasta. Palma Pasta, been a great partner of Toronto Mike for years. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Can't wait to return to Palma's Kitchen for TMLX-21. I'll give you the date and time soon. We're at Great Lakes Brew Pub for TMLX20 later this month. Rob, are you going to be there? I don't think so, unfortunately. Yeah, I can't make that one either. My wife's out of town. Bob, who's singing?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Oh, it's Chris Cornell. Sure is. Yeah. Okay, so a couple of things of this song. This is early Soundgarden. It's called Nothing to Say. It was very early. Is this a bad motor finger?
Starting point is 00:34:16 No, pre-badmower. I love those detuned guitars. So I fucking love this song, but I love Chris Cornell's voice. I don't think there's a finer voice in the alt-rock grunge space than Chris Cornell.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So I wanted to let it brew because when I heard this song the other day, nothing to say. Amazing. So I heard this song, and I thought of Bob, because I think about Bob all the time. Rob, don't be jealous, okay? I can bike and see Bob. You're a long way, wait, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:59 I was thinking about it. But you don't. But I was thinking. I did once. Yeah, you did. Shout out to Chris Cooksey in the East York. Oh, yeah, he's East York here not. I'm south of the Danforth, so I am not.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Close enough. Troy Birch and the G. Rob Johnston's near there. Yeah, yeah. He's south as well. Okay, so I'm listening to this song and I'm thinking about because Bob made an off-the-hand remark a couple of toasts ago when we were talking about Tiny Dancer by Elton John.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And I was talking about Almost Famous. And Bob said, I hate that movie. Am I misquoting you? There's one particular scene that I hate in that movie. That one? It's with Tiny Dancer. Oh, in the bus. Yeah, and that knowing look at each other,
Starting point is 00:35:42 that Cameron Crow bullshit, like, smile. I hate that scene, and it taints the rest of it. of the movie for me. That's what I said. It's like a watered down version of Wayne's World. Yeah, just not a, yeah, I don't know. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:35:54 It's just, it was a little too earnest for me. Yeah. Especially given, you know, like the cred that Cameron Crow gets, I found it just a little over the top. Right. A little hallmark carty.
Starting point is 00:36:04 Yes, totally. Which is fair. Your opinion is your opinion. So you don't like that scene. I have the right to be wrong. You can't be wrong in an opinion. Right, Rob? You are totally correct.
Starting point is 00:36:12 Thank you. That's my opinion. So I'm correct about that. Okay. So I was listening to this song and it reminded, me of a song, and I'm just going to play the song that reminded me of, okay?
Starting point is 00:36:23 This sounds like Led Zeppelin this one. Yeah. It was a slowdown My Hero by the Foo Fighters for a second minute. So, Black Sabbath? I do love that drum sound. Not Black Sabbath. I'm going to the live stream
Starting point is 00:36:58 to see if anybody can pick this up Oh is this This is not River of Deceit That's not Matt Caesar Oh no, this is this Andy Wood Right? Nope, that's not Andy Wood It's not that new shitty band
Starting point is 00:37:16 out of Detroit that sounds like Led Zeppelin? Nope Right? You know who I'm talking about. Oh, it's from the movie. It's the fake band.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Oh, God. This is the fictional band Stillwater. Is it really? The Millie Crut-up band from Almost Famous. And it's their big song, Fever Dog. Oh, wow. So it was, like, written to sound like...
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yes. Right? It's got a bit of a Zeppelin thing around or whatever. But it reminded me of the early Soundgarden. Yeah, that's funny. And I thought a Fever Dog, and then I thought a Bob not liking almost famous. And it turns out is that one specific scene. Yeah, that ruins the rest of the movie.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Which I can see that. But that song introduced, or not introduced, but brought Tiny Dancer to a bunch of us people who were ignoring Tiny Dancer till that scene. Sure. So, like, I. love, today I love unironically. I love Tiny Dancer. That's fine. 100% because of that scene. Well, unironically because of that scene.
Starting point is 00:38:24 Yeah. Unironically. There's no irony in here. But you love it because you didn't just love it already. He didn't know it really. I didn't really know it. That's what he's saying. Yeah. Right, right, right. So there you go. His song blows. This Canada Kev. Fever Dog. Canada Kev. What are your thoughts on Almost Famous? I'm sure it's on Stella.
Starting point is 00:38:40 So here, while I bring down Fever Dog, we're going to thank a few sponsors and then we're going to kick out. And we're changing the order. Okay. I'm going first. Oh. And you know what? Ready for a mind blow?
Starting point is 00:38:51 You're closing, Rob. It's going to be me, Bob, then Rob. I'm going first. And I want to say, Recycle MyElectronics.coma. That's where you go. If you have old electronics, old cables, you don't throw that in the garbage. You go to Recycle MyElectronics. com.C.A.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Find out where to drop that off to be properly recycled. Woo, here she comes. Oh, my good. goodness gracious. We had to say goodbye for the season to Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. I heard that on the Sophie episodes. I'm sad because I had more books to give away, but that's my problem. I've got to figure
Starting point is 00:39:26 that one out here. Okay. I would like to give some love to Ridley Funeral Home. Ridley Funeral Home, have a great podcast. Rob, did you listen to the most recent episode of Life's Undertaking. I sure did. Love it. Thank you for the shoutouts. Yeah, we gave you some love. It was really nice. I loved hearing that, yeah. But I love your conversations you guys have.
Starting point is 00:39:42 Okay, so that's a big endorsement from Spoons, keyboardist, extraordinary, Rob Proust. He says, listen to Life's Undertaking from Ridley Funeral Home. Much love to Doug Mills from Blue Sky Agency. If you are looking for dynamic and creative work
Starting point is 00:39:58 environments, Doug's your man at Blue Sky. Write him, Doug at bluesky agency.ca, let him know your FOTM and chat him up about what's going on. I don't know, I can take both sides of the air show argument. So, like, I can actually argue passionately that we should end this now. And I
Starting point is 00:40:16 and argue passionately that this is kind of a fun thing going on in our big city. Where do you fall on the Toronto International Air Show debate, Bob Willett? I love it. I love it. I love it too. I love it. I don't care. I love it. I don't care what everybody says. It's loud. I literally the other day I was actually on the air down at the radio station on Friday and they were, I had the window open in the studio. And I found
Starting point is 00:40:35 like, I'm a very basic, I'm a basic human being. When a plane would go by, I literally involuntarily would go, yeah! Well, you were probably hearing the F-35. So they were second, because I took the kids to it on Saturday, but I bike the trail and picked up every day, even the rehearsal days, because they rehearsed on Thursday and Friday. Yeah, they did, yep. So I can tell you that they closed with
Starting point is 00:40:55 snowbirds, although they were kind of late. So the snowbirds closed. But the penultimate is this F-35, the murder machine from the United States of America, and it's fucking loud. Wow. Like, it's way louder than anything else. But, yeah, okay, so that was a great event I
Starting point is 00:41:11 enjoyed on the waterfront this past weekend. I do think it's funny. Every time they talk about the snowbirds, though, in my head, I hear Anne Murray. So there's that, I know, there's that split between the cool planes in the air. And then snowbirds. Wow. You know what I mean? They're called snowbirds.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah. You know what we need to do is a mashup between danger zone and snowbirds. Right. Bob, well, like you, I saw your performance at the second city. Yes. Okay. Because dual citizens is a fast-paced comedy spectacle stacked with razor sharp satire, hilarious songs and ridiculous characters
Starting point is 00:41:46 and their signature improv comedy. It was written and performed by a completely Canadian cast and crew and this show joyfully skewers politics, pop culture, and everything in between. So I urge the listeners of Toronto Mike to come laugh with the second city as they turn chaos into comedy.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Are they coming on board as a sponsor? No, this is actually part of the Waterfront BIAs. Oh, cool. Because they're at One York. They are at One York. It's a beautiful facility. Oh, man, that theater is a male.
Starting point is 00:42:14 The John Candy Theater is amazing. The main stage theater and the 73. It's a beautiful. That's cool. And the food's done by Oliver Bonachini and it's not super expensive. I might be spending some more time there again. I love my time at Second City and I will, I'm looking forward to going back and doing some stuff maybe. Nice.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Okay, very good. I know, this is the second week in a row. I had to like do a little vamp thing here, but. Vamp? You know that word? vamp? Well, no, yeah, but not in the way you're using it, I don't think. I don't understand. VAMP is when you're killing time. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:42:50 Is that true? Do you have a special guest coming out again? If you were doing a live thing and the band needed a couple of minutes, because maybe the drummers in the bathroom or whatever, they would tell you to VAMP. Really? And that would mean basically do some crowd work, do some crowd work and kill a couple of
Starting point is 00:43:05 minutes. We do VAMP. We do VAMP's on Broadway. The vamp is a part of the music. Right. I was vamping last week. I don't even know if you noticed. I was vamping. We got one bar of music we're like okay they're still acting they're still acting right and before you go on in the song you vamp oh because they're maybe they've missed a beat or something or a little well you
Starting point is 00:43:21 have a we usually a vamp is usually about one or two bars long of music little simple phrase and you you go over this these bars until they're done their acting on the stage because who wants to watch acting you want to hear music right that's what I say yeah yeah so you vamp until they're done and then you're like okay now we go on a word for fabricating or patching
Starting point is 00:43:37 a term for a no I never heard that I've heard about a vamp being a seductive woman She was a tramp, a vamp, and a bit of the skin. But I didn't. And then apparently the section of a shoe's upper that covers the front of the foot is called the vamp. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows the vampire part of the shoe. It's a musical term.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I did not know that. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. Thank you. Bob, you're going first. I'm going first now. I'm going second. Oh, he's got another one.
Starting point is 00:44:01 All right. So this one should be no surprise to anybody who's ever listened to me on this show or me anywhere. This is the longest title in the Pearl Jam, in the, in the Pearl Jam. In the Pearl Jam world, it's elderly woman behind the counter in a small town. Whoa. I seem to recognize your face. Haunting familiar, yeah. I can't seem to place it.
Starting point is 00:44:33 I cannot find the candle of thought to light your name. Lifetimes are catching up with me All these changes take place I wish I seen in the place But no one's ever taken me Hearts and thoughts they fade Fade away Hearts and thoughts
Starting point is 00:45:15 They fade Fade away I swear I recognize Now I think I may have kicked this out before At least you have Not on this show But on one of the other shows My chill ice is one of the songs
Starting point is 00:45:33 I would sing to my girls They called it Recognize Because I seem to recognize So they want to, if I was going to sing a song to them, it would be recognized. Can I just see time in to say, I also sang this to all four of my children. And when I walk on Fridays with James out of nowhere,
Starting point is 00:45:49 I start singing this song. Wow. I fucking love. It's such a great song. Yeah. I forgot all about this song. Yeah, this was, I changed by not changing at all.
Starting point is 00:45:59 I just, I think it's a beautifully written song. Yeah. It was the first thing that came to mind because it, it says, you know, it's funny, the title is elderly woman behind so it almost
Starting point is 00:46:09 it's an interesting title because it sets the scene it evokes the picture and then so it's like you walk in and then I see I recognize you you don't recognize me
Starting point is 00:46:18 and actually there's a really good there's another host on the radio his name is Howard Stern and if you heard of him he's done some pretty great interviews I heard he didn't come back today
Starting point is 00:46:27 but he was scheduled to be back after his summer break and he wrote an email to his staff today to say he needs more time I think there's some interesting negotiations going on Yeah, there are. Oh, yeah, there are.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I heard he's going to join Indy 88. Yeah, yeah. It's fine. Maybe that's why I'm not on the air. Yeah, so I just think it's, so Stern asked him, you know, I got to give Stern credit because he's fearless with questions. Because he asks questions that are stupid sometimes. They're like, you know, almost in the same way that Mike does. And as a nice a way as possible.
Starting point is 00:47:01 With more listeners. Mike has no fear on asking any question. And whereas I get in my own head. both things. And he literally, she's like, so like, tell me about that.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Like, is it an old woman? Like, well, like, as a fan I'm like cringing on behalf of, but he explains it.
Starting point is 00:47:14 It's like, yeah, and he grabs the guitar. That's so cool. Yeah, it's really cool. So there you go. That's,
Starting point is 00:47:19 there you go. That's a hell of the listeners that when I, last week when you said I thought of a song, I thought of the exact same song. That was the song. That's it right there.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Oh, yeah. I knew it would be. On two legs or whatever where he says, the longest title in the Pearl Jam Cadillard twice. That's etched in my brain.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Me too, yep. Is that still the case? That is still the case. That is the longest title in the Pearl Jam catalog. I love that. And Bob is correct. I have confirmed with my brain, who knows everywhere to that song. Elderly woman behind the counter in a small town is not a lyric in that song.
Starting point is 00:47:50 That is a great example. Amazing. You guys ready for my first jam? Yes. I think we are. What's going on? Finally, the second week in a row, I didn't get to close. I feel like I'm a closer.
Starting point is 00:48:00 What is he doing? What is he doing? You're now you're, now you're, you're Dwayne Ward for Tom Hanky. Oh, I'll take that. Do we want this fucking ride? He beaters She fears She fears
Starting point is 00:48:43 He's coming home to box room readers On I'm outside now We're fair Take care Of all the women in his life
Starting point is 00:49:02 Come on Side down Can it do you I'm still Oh You're so wrong You can never make him to me
Starting point is 00:49:21 So be alone I'll be alone I'm One more Try Finally, I get to kick out of a song from Fluke. Rob Pruse, I'll give you a hundred dollars right now, if you can tell me the artist.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Rusty. Hold on. Because Venmo's okay What? You love the Rusty And I know how much You love the Rusty
Starting point is 00:50:07 So and I know the name I'm too easy to predict Because you heard too many hours of me talking Fluke and Rusty are two words That just go together Right That's the best part But is it fair to say in the 90s
Starting point is 00:50:17 You missed Oh he missed so much The height of I didn't necessarily miss it It was just outside of my main sphere Of observation You know what I mean You weren't seeking it out
Starting point is 00:50:28 And it didn't find to you. I was absorbed in the world of musical theater because it was a new world for me. So when you're hearing now in the headphones, what do you think of massagy? I love it. Okay, Bob, what did you think of? I love this. Rusty. I mean, Rusty was huge. I mean, I started working at Edge 102 in like 98. And so I was a huge listener before that. And that would have been a, and again, I was there for the Edge 102 era. It wasn't 102.1 the Edge. I was, I was there for that very
Starting point is 00:50:55 specific era. And so I would have seen these guys several times. seen all many times i mean rusty was at so many they would have been they would have toured with all the guys that you know the our lady pieces and the i mother earths and you know uh you know moist and watchmen all the people who have you know i've graced the airwaves here with uh mike yeah so so i'm very familiar with rusty so a couple of quick fun facts before i introduce a very special guest for the second week in a row a very special guest is joining us i heard a last it's not bob's a i i thought i did try to enter yeah i saw that i saw that i saw that
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't even know. I'm not even... It's weird. Yeah, try to get. Obviously, the reason we haven't noticed is because I never opened the Zoom. Oh, because it's in the Gmail. It's attached to my Gmail, my Google Calendar. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So, Fluke was the debut full-length studio album by Rusty. Yes. Came out in 1995. This was one of the big singles off it. Like, Wake Me, Groovy Dead, Misogyny, California. I fucking love Fluke, as all listeners know. An FOTM named Chris Wardman produced this. Chris produced this.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Chris produces, I know. Chris is an old friend of mine from the 80s with Blue Peter. We were on the same record label, yeah. And he produced that April Fool by Chalk Circle and so many great things, actually. But enough of me. Who do we have? Who could it be? Well, you don't know who it is, actually, because this person's never been on Toronto Mike before.
Starting point is 00:52:18 What? Who can it be? I know you're thinking. Who do we have on the line? Mr. Jim Moore. Hey, Jim Moore. What do you know about Rusty? and fluke.
Starting point is 00:52:31 Well, I do know this, this might be of interest to Rob. Yes. And I went trying to find this. That song, Misogyny, which was originally on the demo called Massage Me on it. Oh, cool. Well, before we got properly signed, we had a demo that ended up getting released. Yeah. Miller Genuine Draft approached.
Starting point is 00:52:59 us to do a beer ad which i cannot find anywhere for love or money which was shot at the boom boom room in toronto where he used to always go hang out oh wow guess who one of the extras was in that beer ad give me a hint can i guess take a guess yes sandy sandy horn very close really gourdebb yes what was in the video god was an ex he stage diving on it and he goes and he came up to us. That's what, you know, I'm in the band myself, you know. No way. Way.
Starting point is 00:53:34 That's really. I can't find that video. I've been looking, you know, occasionally you go down the rabbit home. Yeah. I cannot find it. I'm pretty sure it's a Miller genuine draft. That is amazing. They paid us a lot of money and that's what bought all the gear.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Wow. That's so cool. Like thrifties did for Spoons. Oh my God, yeah. We sold our souls in 1984. Wait before it was cool. That's right. I'm confused, okay?
Starting point is 00:54:00 I had the band Rusty in the basement, but you've never been on Toronto mic before. I don't understand. Yeah, I know it's because the band of Rusty's actually started. It's the ashes of one free fall. I don't know if you remember. That's a long story. But it was me, Ken, and our drummer.
Starting point is 00:54:18 And we wrote pretty much that first album as a trio. Wow. Well, we got Scotty from the Doe Boys on. So I am. So you were playing on that song we just heard. That is correct. That's so cool. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:54:31 It's amazing. Thank you. Love it. I'm welcome. And Jim, I'm going to let the listenership know. You're actually going to come on Toronto, Mike, because you're so connected to so many great FOTM bands,
Starting point is 00:54:40 and we're going to have a longer chat, but you play bass. Among other things. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, yeah. Tell us what else you would play for Rusty. Like, give us a little Jim more info. Well, no, I was the bassist, and I wrote, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:57 we split it three ways. We wrote all the songs. I was a bassist. But prior to that, I was a drummer, and that's what I'm doing. Now, again, I play in bands. In England, I play drums. I was never a good basis. Four strings, four strings, you use two of them.
Starting point is 00:55:12 You can't go wrong. That's funny. Chris Wardman always loved my bass playing for some reason. That's amazing. Jim, are you in England now? I am. I've been here for about 20 years. Wow.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I can get just a little bit. I can hear it too, yeah. a little bit there. Yeah, I'm just looking at you, I'm on your discogs page right now, looking at your, uh, yeah, yeah, at some of the stuff. So you're, you're playing, uh, you're playing drums, uh, with, with, with people right now. Like I see a high span. Is that
Starting point is 00:55:41 happening still? Or is that, yeah? Yeah, we've done two albums, three pieces. I do that. I'm in another band called the Dutch embassy. Their albums coming out. And yeah, I play a lot of drums. It's pretty active music scene. That's super cool. So you're, are you playing drums, primarily do you are you playing bass or anything else then on like sessions and stuff as well no you know what the last time i played bass i was in hellifax nova scotia last month with my friend uh kevin who who's a big time actor now he's got a series coming out in a week
Starting point is 00:56:14 on bell called charles tm he's the star of that cool i went to halifax last week for personal reason and uh he got me to play a little bass wow for a song he's releasing oh that's fun so what can you share with us about the song i'm kicking out here, misogyny, one of my favorite rusty songs, but does not the song, the word misogyny does not appear in the lyrics. No, that is correct. It's about, yeah, abuse
Starting point is 00:56:38 obviously. Yeah. Because me and Ken grew up in Nova Scotian, that's pretty rife. That's pretty, a lot of communities. Wow. Pretty rough place. Rough places. It can be. It's beautiful, but it can be right. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:56:54 What do you know about the video? I know a lot of about it. I was in it. I'll tell you one little thing, which have you seen where Ken is singing and it's got a little square and it says, I love possum? Yes. In the video? That's a shout out to his dog. See, this is this is the pop-up video stuff that us Canadians need. That's true. Because they weren't doing this idea. That's from what it was Bruce LaBruce did that. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. Well, can I play a bit just to give a taste? So, okay, so the art house film, if you will, by Bruce LaBruce that we get in misogyny is called Hustler White. Tony Ward, which is Madonna's boyfriend for all he stars. Right. He plays like a male prostitute. Yes, he plays one, yeah. Okay, so I'm going to just, just a little clip to give a taste of this is from Hustler White.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah. H is for Hollywood. the very letter fledgling starlet peg entwistle dramatically leapt from landing in a bed of cacti only to die of exposure three days later her cries for help lost amidst the cacophony of the creative city finally my world's favorite location and the starting point of my research santa monica boulevard So this is, And so this is, I was checking this out on YouTube about a week ago. But this is some of Hustler White. So how did that come to be, Jim, that, you know, some Bruce LeBruce ended up.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Bruce LeBruce is a really good friend of our manager, Jeff Rogers, who you... I know, Jeff. She's an FOTM. In fact, Rob Pruse put Jeff on Toronto Mike. Yes. And Jeff was my manager when I was 21. And Jeff is the guy who introduced me to Jerry Levitan, the teenager who interviewed John Lennon. I think the world revolves around Jeff Rogers.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Back to you, Jim. He's the best storyteller in the world. I mean, last time I saw him a couple of years ago in New York City, we had a nice catch-up then. But, oh, that's a long story, too, about how we got him as a manager through Mike McCarty. Oh, wow. I don't know if you know him. He's a huge music publisher. He's a great guy.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And initially, Jeff Rogers did not want to manage me in Ken. But anyway, so he was, yeah, so Bruce of Bruce was. was involved with Jeff Rogers doing movies and films so he got him on board to do our video and what we did we actually shot
Starting point is 01:00:01 the clips you know the stuff of us miming that's actually done on Hollywood Boulevard for me it was like a dream come true and then that was
Starting point is 01:00:10 cut it up with the film that is done in Los Angeles as well so so I was reading like an old blog post from a gay man who was talking about the video from
Starting point is 01:00:21 misogyny and in his words he said this was the gayest video much music ever played yes that's great i was pretty shocked actually played it you know i guess they just wanted to i mean they were so supportive of us i mean we got we won some awards there and they played our videos they actually it's off the top of the song empty cell yeah from the next album they just loved playing that that that did so well they actually asked us to re recut a different video so they could play it longer. Wow. That's cool. So we did another, yeah, I mean, they were so supportive.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And let's not bury the lead, Jim, but when I saw Rusty at Sneaky D's, last time I saw them at Sneaky D's, I got to shout it out during an empty cell. And Ken shouted me out in the crowd. So that was a dream come true. That's so cool. Jim, Jim, can I ask you just quickly before we would let you go there? I'm looking on your Instagram there, and I see you're hanging out with the rival sons, who I got to know at 94-9.
Starting point is 01:01:21 the rock a little bit when I was the music director out in Oshawa. Did you work with those guys or are you just a fan? No, no. No, I didn't. I'm just such a massive, massive fan. Yeah, they're great. A drummer, Miley. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:35 He's inspirational. Oh, cool. Yeah. For me, and that singer, we go anytime they play, they play just down the road, Fokston recently. Yeah. They just,
Starting point is 01:01:47 the whole thing lifts me when I see them. I find really inspirational. They're terrific. They're one of the, they're like a good little beacon of hope in rock music right now. Yeah, rival sons. I think so. They're legit. They sound good.
Starting point is 01:02:01 They're not derivative of other things. But they're also not so they're not that active rock so heavy. You can't listen to them kind of thing, you know? I like them. I like them when I was at 9 to 4 and on the rock too. Yeah. And I recently saw the singer Jay Buchanan does say something. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:18 It's a completely different vibe. But it's so good. I'll have to check it out. I didn't know he had solo stuff. For a current, for me, for a current band, not a, you know, a traditional, the old school band, which I love, Cheap Trick.
Starting point is 01:02:31 He's the best singer for me. Okay, cool. Yeah, no, he's got a great voice for sure. I got to listen to more of them because I know. The rival sons. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Jim, what's your relationship like now with the current members of Rusty? Oh, really? Great. There's been discussion. It comes and goes about that they want to put They've had a couple offers to put the fluke out in vinyl. Because obviously the mid-90s was the height of compact discs.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yeah, they wouldn't have made them an original version. No, no, it didn't. So there's interest from a couple of labels. I actually had to pursue that again. Speaking of Jeff Rogers, contact me a little while ago about doing that. So hopefully that'll see you the light. That'd be great. Well, shout out to Jeff Rogers.
Starting point is 01:03:13 He also worked very closely with Erica M. Yep. Yes, I used to hang out with her back in the day. all this Toronto stuff yeah sorry she used to do those road shows where she played videos and stuff yeah
Starting point is 01:03:26 Erica Mike Koski I think she went on the road I think I know this because I follow her on social she went on the road of Glass Tiger yes Gustagon yeah that's pretty good
Starting point is 01:03:35 Alan Frue oh aye Alan Frue Alan Frue but what I never understood was she wasn't singing right like what was she opening with like a monologue or something
Starting point is 01:03:45 like yeah just to see something you know people fall in love with talking heads on TV but if they can't believe they're actually seeing.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Well, here's how we're going to close. It's just funny small world story because you mentioned Jeff Rogers. I thought of Erica M. I remember great controversy when they made a documentary about much but it never got released because of some song licensing issues
Starting point is 01:04:06 called 99 Queen Street West. No, 29, Queen Street West. Yeah, pardon me. Cut the old address there. But the controversy was that Catherine McLanagan flew from Los Angeles to see the dock at Roy Thompson Hall. I was there.
Starting point is 01:04:21 And she was very upset because in the dock, although it doesn't explicitly state it, it is kind of suggested that the first woman VJ on much music is Erica M. But Catherine McClennahan is actually the first female VJ. And the reason I said Small World Story is because Catherine McClanahan dated a entertainment lawyer named Paul Farberman who did promise, he did say he could get me into the lake house tonight before the Who.
Starting point is 01:04:51 So I just remember that Catherine McClanahan was at the recording of Tears Are Not Enough. And I asked her how she got in there. Is it because of her much affiliation? And she said, no, she was dating Paul Farberman, who had to get all the artists to sign off on their contributions. So that is a small world fun fact, mind blow for you. There you go. Sure wouldn't want to pay it.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Hey, you know, Rob, you know, you know, You said you had a quote that you didn't remember who was from. Yes. Well, tying into baseball, my favorite baseball player is a guy named Kyle Ripkin Jr. Yeah, he heard of him. His autobiography, he would always say, the harder I work, the luckier I go. There you go. It's true.
Starting point is 01:05:34 It's the same, right? It's the same. It is. Yeah, absolutely. Wow. And shout out to Billy Ripkin and his fuck-face bat. I do have that card. I bet you do.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Amazing. That was amazing. Okay, so Jim, we're going to do a proper episode. You and I are going to just chat. But I just want to say a couple things. One is, thanks for hanging in there because,
Starting point is 01:05:56 you know, I mentioned I had to vamp, as I used that word. As I just found out what it meant. I was going to go first, but I went to see you on Zoom and it was a black, like a black screen.
Starting point is 01:06:06 And I'm like, oh. I'm blacker. I'm like, where did he go? So that's why I let Bob go first. And then I saw, you showed up grabbing. There we go. So thank you for doing this. Yes, it worked out amazing. And thank you for listening. I have, you and I have been like Instagram buddies and I know you listen to Toronto Mike. Can you tell us when you do those Spotify raps, what did it tell you
Starting point is 01:06:25 about your fandom for Toronto Mike? I am in the point zero zero zero one seven list. Wow. Really? Holy crap. Wow. Are you that? That's amazing. My brain can't even do that math. Like how many listeners do you have to get to 0.017? So. That's amazing. That could be the... Okay, so that's amazing. So we're going to talk one-on-one. Thank you for listening.
Starting point is 01:06:49 Thank you for doing this. And just maybe the... What's that? Thanks for having me. On our way out, though, looking back all these years later, because that's like an anniversary, right? 95, now we're in 25.
Starting point is 01:07:00 My brain says that... I can't believe fluke is 30 years old. Wow. Like, I still listen to it like it's fresh. Okay? I listen to it all the time, as you know. What do you think, listening back? What do you think of fluke?
Starting point is 01:07:11 30 years later. You know what I think? Are you familiar with St. Anger? Yeah, well, yeah, from Metallica. Yes. Just look up. Lars Ulrich, St. Anger's snare drum.
Starting point is 01:07:23 At times, at times, it's a little bit. You know, I don't like bearing the drums, but at times it is a little bit too present. Well, oh, yeah, because it's in 1999. Well, the sound of the drums at the beginning, it did make me think, oh, those are just some good drum samples because that sounds, there's like,
Starting point is 01:07:40 no, it's not. It's not drum samples. You know what? There's no click. Seriously. That's amazing. But the sound of the drums is so good. It evokes a feeling that just makes you feel like, oh, I'm going to love this. Like, just the sound of it, what it is. Oh, that's kind. That's kind. That's kind. So, Jim, we'll talk again. You're now an FOTM, but we'll get you on a proper episode.
Starting point is 01:08:02 And thanks for doing it. So you have two choices here. One is you could go about your day in Jolly Old England. Or you can mute yourself and you can totally let us, like, you can just, listen in because Rob Pruse is about to kick out a jam. My first jam. All right. It's up to you. Listen, go by the way and just listen.
Starting point is 01:08:18 But thanks, guys. Thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks, thanks for doing this. Rob, any words before your first jam? No, this was the first one that came into my head. This is not the original version. Really? Because we all know it so well that I thought, well, let's lighten it up a little.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? It's so Rob, though, right? Just let it wash over you. At least he didn't just discover the song when he Googled it or something. That's true. Open your eyes.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Look up to the skies and see. Is that gone so? I'm just a poor door. I need no sympathy. Cause I'm easy come, easy go. Little high, little low. It's Gonzo with chickens. Of course it is.
Starting point is 01:09:15 It gets better to me. To me. It gets better. That's Rolf on the piano. Of course, of course. Mama. Animal. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Mama? Mama. Mama. Yeah. Mama. I love that. Yeah. Mama.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Mama! Mama! Ah ha ha ha ha ha. Mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama, mama. Mama! Mama! Mama! Yoho!
Starting point is 01:09:59 Mama Go, Mama! Mama! Oh, Mama! Mama! Okay. All right. I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Tada? All right, conductor, Rob, do I bring it down, or you want to... Keep it going here. It's just good. It's a good part. It's a poor that like me, very, very frightening me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, maelio. It's the bear. I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me.
Starting point is 01:10:44 He's just a poor boy from a poor family, sparing his life's from your scene. Myxstrosity! Noom! Easy come, easy go, will you let me go? They will not let you throw Let me blow Let me joke Do not like your jokes
Starting point is 01:11:05 Let me joke You can fade it down I'm enjoying it because you got to watch the video To really appreciate it I'm sure it's hilarious This is from 15 years ago And the words Bohemian Rhapsody
Starting point is 01:11:17 Are never uttered in this song That's the name of this song actually Yeah Wow So did you know What an obscure I never heard of it Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:25 So When I first heard the song It's coming up on the 50th anniversary Didn't we mention Wayne's World earlier in this episode Because we talked about almost famous Yeah but still Same This is a song that was playing
Starting point is 01:11:38 Exactly And I didn't mention it But I didn't want to bring it out But did you do it on purpose? Yeah yeah You're playing 3D chess over there I am sort of So this is one of those songs for me
Starting point is 01:11:46 In my life when I was nine years old And heard this on the radio Changed my life Like it's one of those moments Where I was listening to CCOC on my little clock radio beside my bed And this song started And I was, like, leaning into the radio because I didn't know what I was hearing.
Starting point is 01:12:01 And when they announced, they said this, that was Queen, Bohemian Rhapsody. And I literally didn't know, is Queen the band or is Bohemian Rhapsody the band? I didn't know what was going on. So you'd never heard any Queen before. I knew Killer Queen indirectly, because when we had been visiting my relatives in Germany, and my cousin in Germany was a huge queen fan. They were already sort of breaking through. So it was a whole new world to me.
Starting point is 01:12:20 How old are you when you hear Bohemian Rhapsody? Nine years old. I had just turned 10. Wow. Wow. So, yeah. So to hear this on the radio for the first time was, life changing for me. Silly question.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Because we know the song's like six minutes long or whatever. So 1150 would play a six minutes song? Oh yeah. That was the whole for sure. The whole thing about the song. But that's like top 40. I thought, okay, I didn't know. No, this, it broke through at that time because people said you'll never get airplay with this because it's five and a half minutes long. And this was, that was Mike Myers, right?
Starting point is 01:12:47 Because isn't that in the movie? In the movie, that's right. Exactly. So what was cool, but people discovered a couple years ago, originally, Freddie, when he was first working on it had called it Mongolian Rhapsody. they auctioned off a bunch of his stuff from his home in 2023 and they had all these like pages of lyrics and lyric ideas and stuff
Starting point is 01:13:05 and the actual pages of him working out the lyrics for Bohemian Rhapsody. At the top of the page he had written Mongolian Rhapsody and then he scribbled up Mongolian and put Bohemian. I wanted to show you last night I was watching the Argo game in my shed and I've got a new record player out there but there's a there's a Rob Proust carrot in there. Oh, news of the world
Starting point is 01:13:23 yeah. Yeah, it was just like the album I was listening to is an old Queen album. Amazing. It's the one with We Will Rock You and we are the champions. Yes. I saw them on that. That was the first time I ever saw them was on that tour. That was that the news of the world. That is an original copy from my mom's, like my stepdad. No way.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Would you buy a ticket for Queen with a different lead singer? Well, you know, I've considered seen buy a ticket. Yeah, buy a ticket. I would. I almost wanted to see them with Adam Lambert the last time they came around. I don't like the combination so much, but I realize while Roger and Brian are still alive, they rock the shit out of their shows
Starting point is 01:13:55 and their music. I heard it's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. And, I mean, Queen is one of the rare bands that people who don't know the depth of them, all four of them were huge songwriters and important contributors to the whole canon of the music. They've all written the hits, all four guys in the band.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Sort of like how that trio we learned about wrote all those big songs from Rusty's flute. Yes, well, Jim Moore, exactly. Like, that's the thing. There's a connection there. The forgotten member, by shout out Jim Moore, who I've been corresponding, because he loves the fluke references.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I love that. And I do a lot of them. But, yeah, he wouldn't have been here. He's not in the band anymore, because he's in England. He's his own thing. But he was for, he's a founding member
Starting point is 01:14:32 and he hung around to like 2000 or something. That's cool. So can you play my number two? Of course. I thought of this. So this is, I was looking for something.
Starting point is 01:14:40 So I was looking for like a bohemian rapese. There's so much shit online on YouTube where you can like break down all the all the overdubs and all the parts. And I thought let's cleanse the Muppets and just listen to this middle section with no music, just voices.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Got a moosh, gotta moosh. Will you do the bandango? Stunderbolt and lightning Very, very frightening me Galileo Galileo, Galileo, Pygaro Magnifico
Starting point is 01:15:05 I'm just a poor boy Nobody loves me He's just a poor boy From a poor family Spare him his life From this monstrosity Easy come Easy go
Starting point is 01:15:19 Will you let me go Vish milah No, we will not let you go Let him go Bish milah We will not let him go And who will not let you go. Let him go.
Starting point is 01:15:28 We will not let you go. Let me go. Never, never, never, never. Let me go. And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, mamma mea, mama me. Mama Mia, let me go. Beelze and book as a devil put aside for me, for me, for me. And who's doing all those background vocals?
Starting point is 01:15:53 It's just the band. It's Roger, Brian, and Freddie. It's just the three of them. There's only three of them doing those. Just three guys. And they layered so many layers of tape. Amazing. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 When I was in grade eight, I had a conversation with my music teacher, Ms. Wilkinson, and she was convinced that that high note at the end was not sung by a man. Wow. And I was arguing with her
Starting point is 01:16:11 when I was like 11. Oh, like working man by Rush. Yeah. He's the greatest front for vocalist. No, but that's Roger. That's Roger Taylor, the drummer singing the highest. Roger's doing the highest note.
Starting point is 01:16:20 That's not. Nope. That's not Freddie. Wow. Roger had a higher range because he still sings the high stuff now. yeah, but they slowed down the tape a little bit to get that high range out of there.
Starting point is 01:16:29 So anyways, yeah. There's a chacha. That's my wife. Is that your wife? It's Leah, yeah. What she got to say? I can't believe Rob forced Mike to say the words, is that gonzow? Somebody earlier said you're mean to me too, Mike.
Starting point is 01:16:44 Mike said that, but I don't feel any meanness towards you, but I can be blunt, but I don't think I just got back in for the first time. I haven't been able to get in. Really? I texted Ian surface. Do you think I'm mean to you? No, I'm way meaner to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:57 Oh, yeah. Why don't have to be mean to one of my favorite guests? It's a love-love relationship. It is. It's only because I just think I'm funny. That's all. Whether I am or not is up for debate. I think I'm the one who said, I was at Second City.
Starting point is 01:17:09 I was there in the audience. You came and supported me. I was supporting you. Adam was amazing. Adam Lambert was amazing, according to Moose Grubby. Yes, we've talked about that. She's a big Adam head. Yep.
Starting point is 01:17:20 So that was the first one that came to mind for you. That makes sense. Yeah, that's a big one. Yeah, I feel like we don't want to Hanson that one. You know, that's perfect. We hansom, the Bubba O'Reilly. Bubba. There's a lot of great,
Starting point is 01:17:29 Bubba O'Reilly. So I'm going to pass the baton to Bob. Oh, and now we're moving on. Yeah, because we're going to keep our order. Okay. Yeah, because we have, Rob's going to close the whole thing. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Okay. So this, I could probably do a lot of, of titles in this genre. So just hit it and we'll talk about it in a few. What the fuck, buck, buck, buck, black, black, black, cover your children's ears. And then we can have a debate about parentheses jams. Yeah, we've done that. Does that count?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yeah. I feel like I'm in train spotting or something. Almost. They know what is what, but they don't know what is what. They just strut. What the fuck? They know what is what? but they don't know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what but they don't know what is what they just strut they just strut what the fuck what the fuck
Starting point is 01:18:42 they know what is what they don't know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what they don't know what is what they don't know what is what they just strut what the fuck they know what is what they don't know what is what they don't know what is what they They just struck What the fuck They know what is what But they don't know what is what They just know what is what But they don't know what is what They just know what they know
Starting point is 01:19:07 What they don't know what is what they just Anybody know the artist The way you would do Mike I do Yeah You do? 25 years old this album today Or this year
Starting point is 01:19:18 This is Oh I thought it was today I was excited No not this today Not maybe I don't know Between the Hatter and the Stars Is Fat Boy Slims album follow up to
Starting point is 01:19:26 You've come a long way baby You've come a long way baby Of course has Praise You And Rockefeller Skank and all That's the big one That's from 98 I think Yeah monster jam Yeah huge
Starting point is 01:19:35 So this is a song called Star 69 Amazing And nowhere does it say Star 69 Really? Yeah nowhere Remember in the old days When you'd know what Star 69 meant That's what I mean
Starting point is 01:19:45 That was one of the reasons I brought it up How many kids even know what Star 69 Every listener of Toronto Mike Remembered everybody's listening To this show But can I ask you Bobulet There's a parenthesis in this title Is there?
Starting point is 01:19:57 No, not on the Oh, maybe it's just on the YouTube one. Yeah, no, not on the CD. Okay, so just star 69. Yeah. Why, is there parentheses on the video? Yeah, so. Is there what the fuck?
Starting point is 01:20:07 Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. I can show you the, Rob, will you, uh, while Bob talks about Norman Cook here and, uh, all this good stuff, can you search the proper title of this song? Yeah, nobody's got to see it. No, no, no, this is not, this is not going to happen because I can guarantee you. Because I own the CD.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I own the CD. And actually, listening to this, back to this. So this has, this is the album that has weapon of choice, which is the Christopher Walken dancing video. Oh, this is that song? Yeah. No, this is the same album. Okay.
Starting point is 01:20:36 This also has the very, I almost picked it, unbelievably painful, beautiful ending song to bully, the movie. I love that movie. Yeah. So that lasted, I see a great big guy, the final track of bully is like, it's all about coming out of a movie Oh my god It's such a crazy movie
Starting point is 01:20:58 This came out the same year as Um play Moby's play And I find this album actually more enjoyable Than halfway between the gutter Or this is halfway between the gutter step More than you've come a long way baby
Starting point is 01:21:13 I just I really want this on vinyl now Now that I have a set up Like when I've been listening to it a lot From beginning to end And it's just there's a song called Bird of Prey on this which samples
Starting point is 01:21:26 it's Jim Morrison's voice it's beautiful That's amazing So yeah So there's a ton of music In this electro-electronica That you could take and use But this one came to mind
Starting point is 01:21:38 Because I just like They know what it comes to your mind So it came to mind right away Yeah it comes up as star 69 Yeah It says also known as star 69 Pertheses So Bob we're gonna allow this
Starting point is 01:21:49 Yeah And it says it's star 69 Is the name of the song But then in parentheses Ironically enough. It says also known as Star 69, what the fuck. But that's not what it's known as on the... Right.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Like, only... You know what? Stupid people call it what the fuck. You know what? But people are stupid. That is true. I will agree with you. So, why should it be?
Starting point is 01:22:05 He goes into a record store and he's like, give me the teenage wastelands. Give me that teenage waste of song. Yeah, for sure. But the song's title, as titled by Norman Cook, aka the funk soul brother. No, I'm on your side. I love Norman Cook. I actually am on your side.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Norman did Norman about Norman Cook? I was just looking at that he was in. the house martin i don't think i maybe i do that 25 years ago i forgot we used to play this a ton we used to play this a ton on the live dairs with martin streak and he was like norman cook a k a funk's old brother okay a fat boy slim yep you played on caravan of love yes that's so cool norman cook's very and he's still going there's still he's like all over the place it's amazing i saw him at the warehouse yeah yeah he was pretty great i'm gonna listen to five boy slim on my drive home this is almost as long as well he mean rhaps this oh no it's very long and it's not even a remix
Starting point is 01:22:50 That's the original. Yeah, that's the original. The remix is actually... Oh, I'm just looking at the remixes. They have one that's 710, and then they have a... Wynum-Dynum-6-9-mix. That's 820.
Starting point is 01:23:02 Wow. Yeah, between... Oh, hang on here. Timo Moss remix is 7-10. Between the gutter and the stars. I just want the... I want to... Love it.
Starting point is 01:23:11 This is a B-side to the single is weapon of choice. Did you say? Oh, is that B-Side? They call it a double A-side. Oh, okay. So, come on. The last...
Starting point is 01:23:20 I just want to, oh, yeah, I love this. So, the last two songs on it are, um, it's song for shelter. Um, and then it goes into talking about my baby reprise. So song for shelter is 1126. Wow. And it's, um, it's with, uh, Roland Clark and Roger Sanchez and it's got to hit. Anyways, it's 1126. I'm going to tell you this.
Starting point is 01:23:40 If you're on shrooms, yeah, it's the best song ever. When was the last time you were on shrooms? It's been a long time. It's been too long. I want to do it right now. What's too long? Decades? No, no.
Starting point is 01:23:50 not decades like probably hours yeah like yeah you have 23 minutes no um yeah you're on schumes right a couple years ago a couple years ago about i love like the song for shelter 1126 of fine shrooming music oh so good oh i believe it i believe it love it rob have you ever been on shrooms uh no i've been on other psychedelics but not i've never and i've never done i've never done i've I'm afraid to do psychedelics. You'll be afraid. I'm afraid it'll change my majority. Everybody's heard about Bill Burr.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Bill Burr's mushrooms saved his life. It will change your life. Change the way he sees things. There's what it goes on about. I just saw the biopic about Brian Wilson. And he dropped acid and it really fucked up his anxiety. I think he probably did it too much. No, it wasn't just that though.
Starting point is 01:24:32 He was already prone. Oh, yes. But it brought out this. It exacerbated. Yes, but I just don't feel like rolling that death. You know, the difference in the, the, the thing about doing those kind of things
Starting point is 01:24:42 it's all about what Timothy Leary and Alan Ginsberg used to call the set and the setting it's all about where you do it
Starting point is 01:24:48 and your intention for doing it and it's a serious subject like I've been into this shit for like over 20 years that I had an experience once or like
Starting point is 01:24:56 over 20 years ago that changed my life wow and I feel like what do you mean you had a drug induced epiphany uh huh
Starting point is 01:25:04 can you be more can you elaborate it it'll be in my book did you DMT it's in the book I'm I want to, have you know, have you read stuff about DMT? There's lots of things you can research about this stuff.
Starting point is 01:25:14 This is a world. But you can't give us a little more? Not right now. This is only your 100th appearance. I know. No. You can't tell me more about this epiphany you had on drugs. No.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Like what drug were you on? It was a plant, actually. It was a plant that exists in nature. It's called Salvia divinor. Oh, Salvia. Yeah. Yeah. That's intense.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Yeah. I didn't know anything about it when I did it. It was spoken about. I was it, I was actually doing this, doing a seminar weekend thing that had nothing to do with it, but the guy who was leading the seminar sort of mentioned it. And the way he described it to me, I was like, oh, I fucking want to do that. Okay. And then where were you?
Starting point is 01:25:48 This was like a control. I was in New York and at home in my, in my apartment. But anyways, the thing about it is, the thing about it, no, not, it's, I want to talk about it. You can't give us a little more. I'm not going to ask you to, but there's an epiphany and it changed the way you look at life. Yeah, sure. It was like, I would call, I could encapsulate it as partially it was a near death experience. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:07 So what a lot of people who approach. psychedelics and psychedelic experiences is that it strips away. Bob, isn't this the most fascinating thing he's ever said? I think he's fascinating all the time, Mike, but that's fine. Yeah, I don't know. He doesn't listen to 20 minutes of the Muppet's doing bohemian interaction. It all goes together. Like, it all comes together.
Starting point is 01:26:23 Also, my pet peeve, it bothered me because I re-listened to Last Toast. Yeah. I'm banning it, so I'm going to make a rule. I know what you're going to be. You know, when we make the topic, you can't discover a song after the topic. I love that. You love that. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:26:36 Because then you're so recency, biacy, that you feel. found this song. It's kind of neat, but it doesn't mean anything to you. You're right. You literally are hearing it for the first time. But you know, it's funny, when you said that last just a week ago, when you said that, it hit me in a different way and I thought, you're right. Who's picking the, who's picking this? Is it my turn? You're next. No, I'm ready. I got, I'm ready. I do. Oh, I do.
Starting point is 01:26:56 I do. I do. Because, uh, he did morning song and then I picked this one. You're up next. And then we can't veto the topic. Well, you can't pick a song we're hearing for the first time. So my topic will ensure it can't be a new song. Okay, good. Yeah. So you did drugs and then you had an epiphany
Starting point is 01:27:11 yeah well okay I think it ties into my song okay it's a nice segue we'll talk about it you ready for a song
Starting point is 01:27:17 where the title does not appear as a lyric in the song yep a live version nope the way he rolls
Starting point is 01:27:29 oh I see you that's a good one I never found I read the news today oh boy about a looking man who made the great It's pretty good at it, eh?
Starting point is 01:27:46 And though the news was rather sad I love this song. It's my favorite Beatles song. Is it really? Oh, interesting. I don't know if I wrote it. I saw the photograph he blew his mind out in a car.
Starting point is 01:28:08 I used to go to the Phoenix for Strange Paradise. Andy Frost would host, but they'd play the song just before the music kicked in. And it was very cool to hear it every Thursday night in the big room at the Phoenix 410 Sherbourne Street. This army had just won the war The crowd of people turned away But I just had to look Having read the ball I'd love to turn you
Starting point is 01:29:04 This is the line Rob I'd love to turn you one You had that moment. You got turned on, man. I don't know how to fade out this song because it's like Bohemian Rhapsody and that it's a, it's epic. I woke up, fell out of bed,
Starting point is 01:29:44 tried to comb across my head. Found the way downstairs and drank a cup. Looking up, I noticed I was late. Find my coat and grab my hat. Made the bus in seconds flat. I'm away upstairs and had a smoke Had a smoke Somebody spoke and I went into a dream
Starting point is 01:30:09 All right So we've all heard this song I'll bring it down But a day in the life But it's in the headphones even right now If you two gentlemen Sounds amazing Awesome
Starting point is 01:30:21 I love it This just in The Beatles And this album Sargent This is good Got to check this band here Yeah let's go on a limb here It's pretty good You're going to do a deep dive on this
Starting point is 01:30:30 Is this? Is this the album? I just saw it. not that Brian Wilson biopic, so it's in my head but PetSounds influences this album. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:36 Sergeant Pepper's only hers club band. Yeah, we talked to with that last week ago. Yeah, just a week ago. On last month's episode. That's right. And I like the singing on it too.
Starting point is 01:30:47 Like aren't the Beach Boys all over this? Like those, not on this one. Not in this song, but was it the other? Yeah. 1967, everybody. We're in 1967,
Starting point is 01:30:56 a Lennon McCartney. So John Lennon contributed, what does he do? The opening and closing sections are mainly John. Paul contributes some, the middle section. But all four Beatles are involved in, like, shaping this arrangement we're listening to right now in the headphones. And George Martin?
Starting point is 01:31:15 George Martin, of course, the producer extraordinaire. So, we talk about the drugs, okay? So the line, I'd love to turn you on, got this song banned by the BBC. Wow. Hold on me back on. Okay, this part, Influence is something very interesting that we will all recall with fondness, I think, okay?
Starting point is 01:31:52 So I'll bring it... It's hard to interrupt this song. It calls for so long. turning up the mics, that's all they kept that sound going. ASMR with Rob Bruce. It's the Beatles. No, it's the key of E. It's a big E.
Starting point is 01:32:12 They misspelled Beatles. Can you believe it? What a big mistake. What a boner, man. Okay, so listen to this, Rob and Bob. close right my max THHX
Starting point is 01:32:42 THHX THX The audience is listening I like a good musical like a jingle like a little tag like like boom boom boom boom
Starting point is 01:33:00 like Intel inside. I like those a lot. What do you think of? By Menon. I like that. I like it. I like it. We tried to come up with one
Starting point is 01:33:06 on the Humble and Fred show. It was one of my favorite moments we ever did. Really? Oh, yeah. But it was Curtis, who's now on the morning show at Legends or whatever.
Starting point is 01:33:14 It's called down at 105.7. Used to be Easy Rock. And he was an intern on the show and we had him go off and do one for us. And he just came back with him going, boop, boop, boop, boop. Because it was so unexpected. It was one of my funniest memories
Starting point is 01:33:27 of the Humbley. All of us killed ourselves. And can you believe one of those two gentleman phoned us earlier today. Live on the air. Doesn't probably, doesn't know he was on this episode of trauma. Mike,
Starting point is 01:33:36 you'll go back and listen. I was narrating. I was doing some voice over while you were on the phone. I will go back and listen. So, because it was a boring chat to, I didn't, I didn't know it was going to be that boring.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Yeah, yeah. So I thought it'd be more spicy. But this, that thing that THX sound I just played is called Deep Note. Yeah. And it was absolutely inspired by the Beatles song,
Starting point is 01:33:54 the day in the life. By that big glass piano chord. Yeah. Super cool. So you mentioned sort of, apparently it was 34 hours. It took 34 hours to perfect that orchestral cacophony. Wow.
Starting point is 01:34:05 Well, and there's a lot of neat kind of outtaking kind of things. The whole song was 34 hours, but a lot of it was that final chord. You can hear George, like, counting the orchestra in. Like, there's, you know, outtake versions and stuff online. And they were counting off all those bars of music. And he was basically having the orchestra start a low note and move up to a high note. And they count to like 18, whatever. I want to give credit to the guy who put that deep note together, inspired by a day in the life.
Starting point is 01:34:29 and also something by this guy named Bach. Yeah. Oh. Whoever the hell of that. I think it's Batch. I think he's Batch. Actually, I think you call it Batch. Oh, I did like, was it 18 in life, right?
Starting point is 01:34:40 Yes. Oh, Sebastian Batch. Johan Sebastian Batch. It must be him, right? It must be him. Okay. But the guy who did put that together, his name is James a Moorer. So sort of like our guest.
Starting point is 01:34:49 What was our guest's name? Jim Moore. This guy's Jim Moore. What the heck? Moor. So you go from Rusty to T.H.X. That's unbelievable right there here. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:34:58 Where do I want to go? just that that's a very that song is critically acclaimed you might know a day in the life it's on many of your like top song lists CBC 50 tracks put it very high Q magazine listed the 50 greatest
Starting point is 01:35:13 British songs of all time and it was at the top Mojo's 101 greatest Beatles song they put it at number one okay it was nominated as the greatest Beatles song a Beatles song yeah but there's a lot of competition you might know
Starting point is 01:35:27 the only other one I can think that might switch spots with it sometimes is in my life which is also like one of those big you know top Beatles songs everybody's got their own
Starting point is 01:35:35 favorite Beatles song what's yours got to get you into my life oh what's yours number nine number nine number nine
Starting point is 01:35:41 no but I love it would have to be something off the white album I don't know what though it was nominated for best arrangement accompanying vocalist or instrumentalist
Starting point is 01:35:50 at the Grammys in 1967 I don't know what the heck I can't picture the Beatles giving a shit about the Grammys not at all like nothing
Starting point is 01:35:55 like not caring at all even at the very beginning just not giving a shit about the You know what else they didn't give a shit about which I think is really interesting for me technically as a musician they didn't give a shit about stereo when they were mixing their records
Starting point is 01:36:07 Oh by the watchman Really? Wow When they were mixing in the records They were mixing them for the radio And it was all mono right Stereo was kind of I mean it wasn't a new thing
Starting point is 01:36:16 But they didn't really care So they would mix the records with George And they would get a good monomix And then they'd leave him to do the stereo Let him do whatever we don't care Well I mean is it Twist and shout the very first It's all vocals are on one side
Starting point is 01:36:27 pretty much I know because I've DJed weddings where I have one speaker out or not one speaker. I have one channel up and I've run two speakers through the one. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, wow, wow, yeah. Crazy. Okay, there's another song, but I can't play it all.
Starting point is 01:36:42 I'm going to kind of fast forward to that point in this big song. You might know, hold on, so. You might know this song? Yeah. I'm going to try to find it very quickly. Stand by. David Bowie. David Bowie.
Starting point is 01:37:10 Okay, let's listen here. How well, it ain't that close to love? Well, it ain't that farmy door. Heart's been broken just like you in All night All night. You want the Young American, you want the Young American, you want the Young American, All right. You want the Young American.
Starting point is 01:37:39 You ain't a pairback, you ain't a horse, a parent's got a candy and a lady got a Chrysler. Black's got the standard, weight's got a soap trainer. Mama's got cramps and look at your handshake. I heard the news today, oh boy. There it is. Okay, worth the wait, everybody. Work the wait. I heard the news today, oh boy, is a direct allusion to a day in the life by the Beatles.
Starting point is 01:38:04 It appears a couple of times in young Americans. Love it. And there's one dance song that can make me break down and cry. We don't kick out a lot of David Bowie on toast. No. I love Bowie. I know. Yeah, he doesn't come up.
Starting point is 01:38:23 And I'm not going to play this whole thing, but we played him earlier. so I just thought I'd point out this guy can sing anything and he's just fucking rad. Shout out to Ridley Funeral. I fucking love this guy's voice. I shouted him out on my little video of my walk on the West Coast.
Starting point is 01:38:52 Did you? I was going to the West End of the City. The West End of the City. Can you tell me about that? Because on the live chat, Tyler Campbell says, No, it was, oh. It was Canada Cove. Somebody.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Oh. But D.P. Says, you walked. Oh, I see. Last week after I left your home, I decided, I was on my way to work and do a shift. And usually I'd do a little video before, but what's coming up on the radio on my personal socials. And then I posted also on the Indy88 store. And I just decided to randomly just record things here in the, like the Maple Leaf House and all the, on my walk up to the Mimico station.
Starting point is 01:39:35 Wow. And, uh, so V-P says I enjoyed Bob's walking tour of New Toronto and Mimico last week. Yeah. And I was, uh, I just was like randomly, I met a cat that I said was the mayor of Mimico. The cat's name was, I named the cat, Tabitha. Oh, wow. I, uh, I met, uh, yeah, no, I met, um, a couple stone marble, uh, um, a couple stone marble, uh, lions that I asked
Starting point is 01:39:56 to be on the walk. Just a bunch of different garbage that I just... Well, Moose Grumpy also enjoyed it. It was just a silly little one minute. Yeah. Yeah, it was just a silly little walk that I put it together
Starting point is 01:40:06 and I extolled the virtues of the walk from here to Mimico Station. That's all. It was a good walk, though. While walking... I mean, you did the... So walking here, I mean, you guys saw... I mean, I was sweating like,
Starting point is 01:40:17 crazy. Rob Pruse. Any words before I kick out your second jam? No, it was the second one. that came into my head. Because you've only, you've done two already?
Starting point is 01:40:28 I've only done one. Oh, I've done two. You've done two? Yeah. Because the order's all messed up. I did not do. I did not do a good job on that. I feel ashamed.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I actually thought I had to press play in. and then my apologies. I'm embarrassed. Did you want to talk up to sing it now. eyes and you made me smile for a little while I was falling in line
Starting point is 01:42:15 and I was falling somebody somewhere this was the beginning of all of it tell us what we're listening to so it's flock of seagulls it's called space age love song it's not mentioned it was on their first album which came out in 82
Starting point is 01:42:39 and apparently from reading on the line the guitarist Paul Reynolds thought they should call it space age love song because it sounds like a space age love song it's a very simple song there's only the plan and blonde guys were listening Yes, everybody was listening. I mean, this totally, we had a spoon song that sounded just like this.
Starting point is 01:42:55 Like, it's so funny to me now that I see what an inspiration they were to the music world in general because there was nothing like this album when it came out. I mean, Iran was the big hit, of course. But the whole album was really just fantastic. And now the aforementioned Gordep is in that band. I know. I just watched a clip of him playing the song from just a few weeks ago somewhere down in the States. It's so cool.
Starting point is 01:43:15 Yeah. Does he still take your calls, Rob? Gord. Yeah, he takes my emails. Ha, he's a busy guy. It's funny, he's really, he's way busier with Flocka Seagulls than with Gordon, with Sandy, you know, in the Spoons world. But it's good. I'm glad for him to, like, be a part of this band because, like, they're on these lost 80s tours, doing all these crazy gigs, you know, so super cool.
Starting point is 01:43:35 Yep. 1984, you said? Yes. This sounds very 19, to me, well, you guys are so young. It sounds, it's very 1980. We were there, though. You were there. I mean, we did.
Starting point is 01:43:45 Bob's about the turn 50. Summer of 82, we played with this band, you know, at the police picnic at the see and E. And so we were the first band. Then it was Flok of Seagulls and then it was Joan Jett and then the talking heads and then the police. Crazy. And Flok of Seagos were brand new at that time as well. So it was a cool bill for all of us. Yeah. What a crazy line up. Those police picnics were crazy. It was unbelievable. I know. Rob, I have a question for you. What is the second biggest hit? Like if you ask the average music fan, what's the second biggest hit from Flok of Seagull. I think there's a song called Wishing if I had a photograph of you, which if you
Starting point is 01:44:16 would say that's the second? This would be the second. Wouldn't it? I ran and then this. Would you think of this? Like, I would say between those two. Oh, see, I know where I, I know this and I ran. The one you're saying, I don't know. If you heard it, you probably know. I'm not sure I know this. Oh, you know, it's basically, that's what I'm not sure I did.
Starting point is 01:44:30 Oh, we used to play this on Sunday nights. That's why I think you might know one more. Wishing was more of a traditional kind of a pop song. Okay. So maybe, yeah. Yeah. It's sort of like when you were talking Mike to Sophie B. Hawkins and she mentioned that second song.
Starting point is 01:44:42 And I was like, I don't think I know that song. And it's like, oh, I do know that song. Oh, my God. Of course. I forgot about that song. Yeah. Absolutely. Sophie B.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Hawkins. Great taste in men. Yeah. Oh, wow. It makes them feel good. It was nice. I'm provoked. Yeah, but she's omnisexual.
Starting point is 01:44:56 She doesn't care about men or women. She cares about what she feels. Isn't that pansexual? I don't know. Oh, there's a difference. I think Monica looked up the difference because we thought pansexual and omni. I think pansexual is you don't care about the gender. Right.
Starting point is 01:45:10 Like you're sort of in love of the spirit or whatever. Right. And I feel Omni is you like all genders. You're attracted to all gender. genus, but you do actually care about the genitalia somehow. I don't understand. You think pansexual people don't care about genitalia? Yeah, like maybe pansexual
Starting point is 01:45:24 people are really attracted to a spirit. Right, but you can't make a spirit come. Can you say that on Indy-A? I'd figure it away. You could say the C word? I could figure it away. I could figure it away. I couldn't do it during the day. I wouldn't do it during the day, but in the evening, if I were on, I'd figure it away. Canada Kev says that song sounded like
Starting point is 01:45:46 Iran or whatever at the beginning. Is it called and Iran or is it called Iran? Iran. And then I think sometimes in brackets it even says so far away in parentheses. Okay, no, we're not talking about the country Iran. No, that's right. And only Americans pronounce it Iran. So that's, yeah, Iran.
Starting point is 01:46:02 Yeah. Is that president still alive? Can you do that? You know what? I was going to mention to you guys last night. I was going down a funny weird rabbit hole when you, if you Google Putin poison Trump, holy fucking shit, sorry. Well, that's like that's a long way to go.
Starting point is 01:46:15 but you can go back in the news but if we stick to facts yeah yeah but he hasn't made a and he might be making one right now like I think he's scheduled I know but he hasn't made it's been days
Starting point is 01:46:26 since he made a public appearance which is unusual for him we'll mark the date of this of this episode and I was like reading these things last night they were like these speculative things about their meeting in Alaska
Starting point is 01:46:36 I was like holy shit like nobody would put anything past anybody these days with these well we've seen bloated what do you call that swollen ankles he's making a talk interesting
Starting point is 01:46:45 Okay, so we've seen swollen ankles And we've seen bruising on the hands Like these are like objective Like facts We've seen this from reputable journalists Have reported photographs, yeah So reputable Reputable. Reputable? Reputable.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Both. They're both reputable and reputable. Reputable, man. Brewery. Okay. But the bruising as a fellow Blood Thinner taker, although I have no bruising you'll see here, you do you do bruise easily when you're on blood thinners.
Starting point is 01:47:14 So, who knows? Maybe he's got congenitive heart failure and the world can rejoice soon. What do you think? And Rob Proust never got home. When it happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:24 Never got home. Okay. Now, any final words to say about flock of seagulls? No nothing, actually. No fun facts. Do they take your call? Who's the main guy again?
Starting point is 01:47:33 Mike's score. Yeah, right. Will he take your, answer your email? No, but you consider him in FOT. You consider flock of seagles like, you need to talk to Mike's score. If a member of a band
Starting point is 01:47:42 from on trying to Mike, I say that's an FOTM band, right? So the fact is, as we speak, Gord Dep is a member of Flog Sicks as an FOTM band. I know, it's so funny to me. I know, it's true. But that's just, you know, I'm not even playing. I bet you could get Mike's score on the base.
Starting point is 01:47:56 If he had, you know, there was a Flux. If he was around. Yeah, yeah. For sure. He does those bowling alley shows, right? Yeah, yeah. And he's an FOTM. Yeah, that's right.
Starting point is 01:48:04 There you go. Yep. Ed Sousa. Yeah. Like, there's a connection there. Okay. It's all connected. Like, all you need to know is that mid-year is an FOTM.
Starting point is 01:48:11 That's all you need to know. Who's up? It's the great Bob Wollett. Bob, any words? I know you love this band. I can't wait to kick it out. No, so I was just trying to see what Philip OJ. O.J. Al-A.M.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I thought you were going to check and see if the guy was still, the guy was alive. No, you know what you did. 2 p.m., the president's making an announcement from the Oval Office. Is it going to sound like when Rob Proust made those jingles? Is it going to sound like AI? It might. You never know. It might.
Starting point is 01:48:33 You never know. It's very weekend at Bernie's. So as opposed to the Beatles, who are, you know, the most influential, most important band in the history of rock, this album and this band means absolutely nothing to anybody but me. Really? Well, they have one hit. They're a one hit one, but this, a huge hit, though. And it had two waves. It did.
Starting point is 01:48:50 Yeah. So, but when, when we thought of a, when the idea was that there's a title and it's the song, I love this band. I think they're so underrated and they got messed up in the whole, all the buyouts and whatnot between Universal and London records and all these different things. this is Harvey Danger again I know I've kicked them out before but I even I sent Mike the lyrics and I'm going to show Rob the lyrics to read along to because it's like I just they spoke to me in a way that no other band did it was 1997 for whatever reason it was I loved it and this song is called terminal annex okay and just here there's the lyrics this is your third song right yeah that's it holy crap yep yep we've been out of two hours we're actually going
Starting point is 01:49:33 long here oh man oh I thought it was going to be Move into the country. And it's called what? Terminal Annex. There's a couple lines that just really resonated with me. I'll tell you. About the Toronto neighborhood, the annex. Here's something beautiful.
Starting point is 01:49:47 Now smash it to bits. Save your little wheelchair. Empowerment films. Save your swoons I'm spoken for. It isn't pretty to think so but I can't faint interest now oh
Starting point is 01:50:13 oh dreaming of this fight I never got into thinking of me shit I wish I'd said to you Such a fancy lady Call you Secret Tina She didn't get all the good stuff But she looked like you
Starting point is 01:50:45 Like a zero Drowning in a sea of higher numbers Everything you say to me is dumb At least it's stupid Only one more lyric I want you to hear it now I'll talk 20 heavy hammer smashing down Here's a doorstep you can never darken You complain about an overflowing cup
Starting point is 01:51:27 Don't forget that I'm the one who fill back Fucker up. Right? So, one, two, three. It sounds like poppy, emo bullshit. It's good, though. But the lyrics, like, I tell you what,
Starting point is 01:51:43 when I heard the line, dreaming of the fist fight I never got into, I, to this day, have dreams about, about fights where I'm fighting in slow motion, or I lose. I thinking about the mean shit I said to you, how many times when you were,
Starting point is 01:51:56 like, so I'm 21 when this song comes out, and you're in a middle of a fight with your girlfriend or whatever, and you'll think of all the things you could have said afterwards. I just, and like a zero drowning in a sea of higher numbers spoke to my soul.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Like there's just like I felt like as confident as I come off I'll be honest like I often feel like a piece of shit so it's like I just like this song just and then here's a doorstep you can never darken. I think I find his lyrics so smart and this
Starting point is 01:52:26 they never say Terminal Annex. Have we named the band? Oh it's Harvey Danger. Yeah, I did mention Harvey Danger. Of course known only really for Flagpole Sita, which is a very funny and very smart song, too. The lyrics are very smart. This whole album is full of lyrics to me are, like,
Starting point is 01:52:42 again, this is one of my top three favorite albums of all time. When you kicked out the jams on Toronto Mike, you kicked out a different Harvey Danger song. About helicopter. Private helicopter, which was the second single, which never made it anywhere, but yeah. Do those words appear in the lyrics? Yes.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Yes, so I'm on a private helicopter with my favorite best friend. Yeah, so yeah, this one did not. So I, but I just love, like Pulcita, they don't say that in the lyrics. They don't, you're right. That could have actually been, that could have been one, but, you know, I just, Terminal annex came into your head. Terminaling came into my head. That's so cool.
Starting point is 01:53:11 And I just love the, like, like a zero drowningness. There's so many lyrics that, these are very smart. And it hits you at the right time, which is everything of music. Yeah, exactly. So this album, you know, you talk about how you put rusty. Yeah, that's right. You put fluke on. I put this on a lot.
Starting point is 01:53:24 That's cool. Although it's not on any streamer. Do you put on the whole, do you put the whole album on? Yeah. Yeah. You, what do you got it on? I got it on Spotify. It's not on Spotify Canada.
Starting point is 01:53:32 What? Unless they just put it on. Unless it's just there. It's literally just been put on if that's the case. Seriously. Is that where? Breaking news. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:53:40 It's literally never been there. I'm listening to it on my drive back down to New York tomorrow. It's never been on there. Did you re-listen to your jam kicking? Which one? Because remember I said on this day, I do the on-this-day thing. And then I said it was on this day and whatever. Rob Proust made his first visit.
Starting point is 01:53:54 No, but I celebrated that day, though, because it was the first day we met in real life. Did you rel listen? No, I didn't. So I thought I saw a comment where you said something like how much you enjoyed hearing that. No, I was just, I was happy that it was the first time we met in real life. Well, not the last time. Because we did a Zoom once before that. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:10 And then we met. And then it was three years ago yesterday that we had TMLX. Oh my God. Right. All these memories. Shout out to Cousin Janow who lives in the Annex. Jano in the Annex. That sounds like a lyric.
Starting point is 01:54:22 Because that song we just played is called Terminal Annex. Yeah. See, so I'm bringing it back to the Annex. And that's from Leslie. who's a cousin Janow. And they will both be at TMLX20, which is September 25th. It's not on Spotify,
Starting point is 01:54:34 but it's on your American Spotify. Lucky me. So your phone, wouldn't it have picked up some kind of a Canadian IP address? I don't know. I don't know, but he's got it,
Starting point is 01:54:44 and I don't. There are things that come up when I go to Spotify as well that people will share online that I don't get same thing. So maybe there's licensing things. Yeah, there's no like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:53 So they have King James version, which is, that's a Bible. Yes, thank you. I heard that. Anyway, so that's it. So that's very self-indulgent. That's good.
Starting point is 01:55:02 No, but that's the whole point is they're your jams. You're supposed to be self-indulgent. That's why I kicked out my favorite Beatles song. A song I love from Rusty. And this song, which is also an FOTM, not that the Beatles are. But the Beatles are not an FOTM band. Not yet. Not yet.
Starting point is 01:55:19 Paul hasn't dropped by on his way to Hamilton or whatever. All right, this is an FOTM jam. Fucking love this song very much. Thanks for your face, London. Nice. I want everybody in the house makes some noise! I want everybody in the house to stay home. Your truck kick it to them, man.
Starting point is 01:55:42 A ballad behind bars, or you could say, real rock from the rock, an unusual musical happening in a most unusual place. The state prison have... I got a letter from the government the other day I opened in race. I opened and read it and said they were suckers. They wanted me for their army or whatever. Picture me giving a damn.
Starting point is 01:56:03 I said never. Here's a land that never gave a damn. I found a brother like me and myself because they never did. I wasn't winning, but just that very minute it occurred to me. The suckers had authority. Cold sweating as I dwell in ourselves. How long has it been they got me sitting in a state pen. I got to get out what that thought was thought before.
Starting point is 01:56:23 I kind of played as a plan on the south floor. I'm not a fugitive on the run But the brother like me Begun to be another one Public enemies serve in time They drew the line y'all To criticize me for some crime Nevertheless they could not understand
Starting point is 01:56:38 And I'm a black man And I can never be a veteran On the sprinting situations unreal I got a raw deal So I'm looking for the steel You're serious, you in the justice Word them up I'm looking for that steel
Starting point is 01:56:52 You're gonna break you out of there, man Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos. This is Public Enemy. It takes a nation of millions to hold us back. The album comes out in 88. This song is released as a single in 1989. I recorded the video. They played it during a spotlight.
Starting point is 01:57:13 Do you guys remember much music spotlight? Yeah. Then I recorded the Public Enemy Spotlight, and I got the video on VHS. Wow. Shockingly, it was not on high rotation. not much music, but I got it on the spotlight. That's cool.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Killer sample. So there's a piano sample that is underneath this song. Yeah. Do you know, I'm dying to know if you know, you're a penis. No, I don't know. I like saying the word penis. You do. So you don't know where this sample comes from. You want me to tell you?
Starting point is 01:57:45 Can you give me a hint? Legend. Nope. Bob Marley? Not Bob Marley. He is a legend. No longer with us. but I'm going to bring down Public Enemy
Starting point is 01:57:56 fucking great song One of my favorite Public Enemy song So, and I'm going to start this but I'm going to have to fast forward to the right spot again So hold on This, my friends is Isaac Hayes
Starting point is 01:58:13 And I'm going to try to say the name of this song Which is from his 1969 album Hot Buttered Soul You ready? Hyperball Syllabic Sesque Daily Mystic I don't know if I got that right or not
Starting point is 01:58:29 If I got that right, it's a fucking miracle because I can't even say brewery How's the beer, Bob? Brewery, Brer. How's the beer, Bob? Wonderful, thank you. How's your beer, Rob? Fantastic, thank you.
Starting point is 01:58:44 Thanks, great. Quickly go ahead to the seven-minute mark. Give me a second here. I can do this. Oh, there it is. That's it. I'm actually going up further. Okay, well listen to here for a moment. Long song.
Starting point is 01:59:08 It's really cool, though. There it is. That's really cool. There it is, everybody. The 7-10 mark, if you're looking for it, I don't know. Hyperbolic, syllabic, sesquidaley mystic. from Hot Buttered Soul Isaac Hayes
Starting point is 01:59:55 I'm gonna listen to this whole album when I'm driving home because I'm just looking at it on Wikipedia Hot Butter and Soul Yeah There's two songs on side one There's two songs on side two
Starting point is 02:00:08 That's it Yeah that's it And one of them The first song is a Bert Backerack cover Walk on by But he does it for like 12 minutes Of course he does And then on side
Starting point is 02:00:17 And then there's this hyperbolic song And then the side two He does the Jimmy Webb song By the time he gets to Phoenix for 18 minutes. And then Public Enemy did by the time I'd get to Arizona
Starting point is 02:00:25 which is built on by the time I get to Phoenix. Yes. And that's on the next album. Holy crap. Apocalypse 91. The enemy strikes black. I love learning shit like this.
Starting point is 02:00:34 So what I liked about a lot of things I liked about black steel and now are of chaos. But one thing is they would do this thing that I don't know I just wasn't familiar with where they sampled themselves.
Starting point is 02:00:42 So like there'd be these scratch breaks that was Terminator X of course. But you'd get like now they got me in a cell and that's from Bring the Noise or Death Row. what a brother knows. These are parts of Bring the Noise.
Starting point is 02:00:55 And it's on the same album. So Bring the Noise was a big jam. You might know the anthrax version, but it was a big song on the same album. It takes a nation of millions to hold us back. And it would get sampled in this song, Black Steel and the Hour of Chaos. But, you know, Bob earlier mentioned
Starting point is 02:01:09 live to airs with Martin Streak. You did that, right, Bob? I did indeed. Okay, there's a song you might have heard on a live to air from Martin Streak, which is a cover of this song, but it's a RAD cover A trademark Toronto Mike
Starting point is 02:01:24 I'm the only one who can say rad now That is the thing that I say So I'm just going to play a little bit of that As Isaac Hayes takes us out We're going to be able to be. I got a letter from the government the other day It said they were suckers They wanted me for the army or whatever
Starting point is 02:02:17 Oh bitch of me giving a damn I said never Here is a land that never gave a damn About a brother like myself Because I never did I wasn't with it for just that very minute It occurred to me The suckers had authority
Starting point is 02:02:32 This trip hoppy version is by, it's attributed to Tricky. Black Steel on the debut Tricky album, which is another word I'll struggle with. Maxen Quay, 1995. And I thought this, well, I already loved the original, and I thought this was a pretty cool cover. Tricky. But Tricky's not the woman singing, right? So I wondered, like, this woman, Martina Topley Bird is her name.
Starting point is 02:03:11 So I decided just sort of like Rob Proust style. I went going to, like, I went hunting to hear other Martina Topley Bird. And I discovered a song from Martina Topley Bird that I think is just so damn cool. And I didn't know it until I stumbled upon it looking for more by her because she's singing the song. Do you want to hear that song before we pass the baton to Rob Proust to take a song? home. Artina Topley Bird.
Starting point is 02:03:36 Artina Topley Bird. If all went The way You could Walk today Time walks a world away But screw me You try
Starting point is 02:04:14 You're going to kill some You're going to breathe some You're going to do what's not I want You're going to pay some You're going to want some You're going to be so long Why you're peating me
Starting point is 02:04:41 Don't make a mark on It's really cool Need one Yeah Let's get this on Indy 88 Sure Okay What ears it from?
Starting point is 02:04:53 Sounds, I don't have an answer, but 90s 1990s You know the greatest decade of music The 90s, yeah You know that right? Rob, you've never, have you ever closed a toast before? Never. Are you nervous?
Starting point is 02:05:06 Nope. After this song, you realize Bob Willett is going to introduce the October. But you do realize because we're doing this on September 2nd, it could be like, it could be like seven weeks, eight weeks. We're going to forget. Things are going to happen. It's going to be a long time before the next toast. You don't know that.
Starting point is 02:05:24 Well, I know it's going to be at least a month. Well, that's true. It's at least 29 days. It's going to be in October. That's right. Fucking cool. Okay, Rob, any words to say before your final, whatever we're calling this. Titleless scam or title.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Lyricalist title. Lyricalist title. Oh, that's good. Yeah, no, no words. This was, actually, the songs came into my head pretty much in this order as well. So, yeah. Okay. And I'm telling you this song was on my short list.
Starting point is 02:05:50 Was it? Because I love this song. Okay. My favorite song by this artist. Did you have my fun fact song as well? Did you know about that? Well, let's get to it and we'll talk about it. Okay.
Starting point is 02:05:58 Here we go. Okay. Smooth. Bones sinking like stones all that we fall for Home's places we've grown Dedicating this song to Damian cards
Starting point is 02:06:19 We live in a beautiful world Yeah we do We live in a beautiful world Bones sinking like stones all that we've far before homes places we've grown All of us are done for We live in a beautiful world
Starting point is 02:07:00 I'm bringing it down because your car has to be moved by 1230. I've got a note from the boss. For Springsteen called me. It's the first song in Copeland's first album, Parachutes. Came out in 2000, yeah, 99. Yeah, around there, yeah. You're supposed to know this stuff, Rob. Yeah, it's around that time.
Starting point is 02:07:18 It's your fucking jam. It's around that time. But, you know, co-play has become so ubiquitous in our world that it's, when I go back and listen to this album, straight through, start to finish. I'm like, oh, it takes me right back to the turn of the century. and I love the sound of it. This sounds like way rawer, if that's a word. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:35 Way more raw. It's cooler. I find it cool. It was more like what I like. Me too. It's way cooler, yeah, for sure. That first sound which I owned. Yep.
Starting point is 02:07:42 I was tricked into thinking Cole Play was a pretty cool band. They were cool for a lot. Yeah, that thing they were. I feel better because even the next one, no rush of blood to the head. I had that and I thought that was pretty good. They were, they were starting to ride on, get a little bit to the edge of the road at that point, though, even to me. Chuck Klosterman, greatest line ever. I fucking hate Coleplay.
Starting point is 02:07:58 He opened his book, one of his. really with it yeah but it was he did and the funny thing is he didn't hate cole yeah he just hated what they stood for sure yeah and he said that in since then uh yeah they're one of the they're they're polarizing but they represented at the turn of the century they represented a sound yeah that was moving forward as far as here's some new music here's CDs before streaming came along they were in some film like indie films I almost yeah yeah almost thought this was like could have been stereophonic yeah which is like way cooler than gold play course right big hit fans Yeah, their heuraphonics.
Starting point is 02:08:31 And, because I saw them at an edge fest or something, doing fiddlers green or something. They cover, yeah. But I have a hip fact for you real quick before I lose it. Hot Buttered Soul. Yeah. Which we heard that song, I can't say. Was recorded in the same studio as up to here by the tragically.
Starting point is 02:08:46 Oh, down in New Orleans? Memphis. Memphis. Sorry, okay. New Orleans is sinking. Yeah, that's a fun fact from the VP here. And Canada Kev says that he would take cold play before Nickelback. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:59 well yeah probably yeah yeah I would too it's a style preference right it's a genre preference yeah for sure but that's cool so what's the name of the song Leslie loves to panic called don't panic
Starting point is 02:09:09 yeah never says don't panic never says don't panic and who's doing the background vocals as soon as a female in there no it's just I think it's still Chris just doing her music maybe it's Paul Languall there you go
Starting point is 02:09:18 so play my other one I discovered this not until just last night and I didn't know this about because I don't know enough about cold play they released an EP a year before the album came out oh for so and this was on it It's a little looser, yeah.
Starting point is 02:09:44 A little tricky. Yeah. It is. With the keyboard in the background is kind of cool. Who knows to you? Is this the first Rob Bruce 90s song? No. I've picked these.
Starting point is 02:10:00 Maybe. I always, when they first came out, I thought they were U2S. Yeah, oh, for sure, very comparable. So this is like a little bit of a looser version. It's a little rarer, even though it's got like the keyboard to give it sort of like an ambient vibe as well. But it's something really cool to know that they trusted the song enough to re-record it and strip it down. And it fits more of the vibe, but they actually. album than this.
Starting point is 02:10:30 Have you ever seen him talk about, what's the one? Look at the stars. Look at how they say. Is that the science? Yellow. Yellow. Right. So yellow was kind of their biggest tip, right?
Starting point is 02:10:38 Have you heard him talk about how that, that he wrote that? They were sitting in the studio waiting to do something. And he's just kind of sitting on the piano. Yeah. And he was literally doing a Neil Young impression with his voice. Wow. And then he says, it goes, and then it just came to him. The song was written in 15 minutes.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Wow. And he was like, look at this. He was doing a Neil Young impression. That's so cool. find it online him talking about it's really great that's really neat i like them i do like them i kind of hate every second album though it feels that way like one album's great for me one album's i i don't i really like this recent stuff they did where they were collaborating with like bt s yeah and other people and i think it's neat because they're reaching all new audiences yes they're trying
Starting point is 02:11:16 new shit that i think it's kind of cool it's cool that they're trying new shit yeah well this was cool to get rob pruss back in the basement and close the show and thank you for my Broadway's own Rob Pruse in the basement. Bob, it's your moment, man. Oh, man. I'm excited. Bob Willett is going to announce the next topic for October Toad. Okay, so I'm of two minds here.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Number one. They're very similar, I think. Because it's fall. I prefer autumn, if you don't mind. Okay, because it's autumn. there's there's a and I could just totally steal the theme of my podcast
Starting point is 02:11:59 and make us do songs like that but I think I want to do and this will guarantee that these are songs that we haven't kicked out on toast but I want you guys to bring three songs that profoundly affected you. Ooh.
Starting point is 02:12:14 Songs that have profoundly affected you that you haven't kicked out. And do we need a reason? Yeah, I want to hear the story. I want to hear why it profoundly affected. It didn't necessarily change. Can they all be Nickelback songs?
Starting point is 02:12:25 Yeah. If they, if all three profoundly affected you, yes. If they made you vomit for, for instance, then yeah, that would be...
Starting point is 02:12:32 Baw to Bob, I kid rock. Yeah, that's one for sure. That profoundly affected you. Yeah, break stuff by... I'm taking a note.
Starting point is 02:12:38 All right. Yeah. Is that too ambiguous? No, I mean, I can't veto it, but I find it too personal. Oh, but I want...
Starting point is 02:12:46 But I thought you said it's about us. But we went... At the previous incarnation of toast, it was pitched by Stu Stone. We kick out three songs from our... three favorite concerts and I vetoed that one because how is this the listenership thinking I don't know how do they relate that this is your own
Starting point is 02:13:01 personal well but I think like Bob says though if you tell a story you want to have a little bit of I can't veto this I'm not vetoing it I don't have this power but it's your it's your if you guys I the other one is songs about change no no but you guys can vote if you want I'll you know songs about change or so you have to choose Bobolet yeah yeah I'm gonna make a choice right now I think I think I think songs that have profoundly affected you I like but I like the second part of it where you need to tell a bit of the story about it. You need to tell us why. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:13:26 Like, you heard this song and you were like, oh, my God. Yeah. Like that's, and whether, whether it be because it sounded, you saw it at a certain place. Yes. And that it affected you. Yep. Or you, you were going to, you, you, came upon your, your radar somehow and you heard the lyrics and you went, wow. It would be funny if Rob kicked out three jams.
Starting point is 02:13:43 He just discovered, well, Googling songs that profoundly affected me. That could affect me. That could affect me profoundly. Songs that have perfected. But what I like is the idea that you have to use your own judgment as far as how how deep are you going to go in what? The effect is. I love that. You know,
Starting point is 02:13:55 they dis, songs, I guess, yeah, it's profoundly affected, you could mean anything. So that's the open part. Yep.
Starting point is 02:14:02 Done deal. I have no veto power. This is happening. You made that up. I dig it. So we're not doing spooky Halloween songs. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:14:09 let's do that. All right, thanks, guys. So, Rob, you'll let us know when you can return in October. It'll be for sure.
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