Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Maie Pauts: Toronto Mike'd #105

Episode Date: January 13, 2015

Mike chats with CFNY 102.1, CHUM FM and Boom 97.3 host Maie Pauts about her career in radio.

Welcome to episode 105 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything, often with a distinctly Toronto flavour. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me this week is radio host Mae Potts. Yay! Hi Toronto Mike! Which by the way, I didn't even call you Mike when I said I was coming to do this. Yeah, I'm talking to Toronto Mike. Do people just now call you Mike when I said I was coming to do this. I'm going to be talking about Toronto Mike. Do people just now call you Toronto Mike without a break in the name? I was on with Aaron and Mike on CHFI last week,

and they referred to me the whole time as Toronto Mike, and I was thinking, yeah, that's just... That's your name now. Yeah. The whole thing. Now, you've got to be right on this mic, though. Sorry, I'm wandering off. I already can see the emails I'm going to get from my friend Andrew to tell me, you know, May wasn't on the mic.

I know. We're used to those, you know, on-air ones where we can just wander off way over here and do other things. Okay, but I'm back. Thank you for visiting on what might be the coldest day of the year, I think. Well, and thank you for accommodating me because I wussed out on you yesterday with the snow. You know, I'm going to tell you right now that when it comes to driving in snow, I don't do it. I refuse. My mom at some point decided she was just done with driving in snow, like just TTC it if there's any snow on the ground. Well, I TTC all the time to work anyway. I love transit, but I do have a car and I don't mind driving except when there's bad

weather. And if it was just me on the roads, I'd be fine with driving in snow, but I just don't trust other people. You know, yesterday, the day that you did not want to drive, I actually went for a 20 kilometer bike ride. Did you really? Just want you to know, yeah. It was one of those snowfalls where it wasn't slippery.

It had enough traction that I just went to the trails. Well, I know you're avid and I know that you and Scott Turner bonded big time on that. You know, he's got a $6,000 bicycle? Yeah, that's more than most people's cars. Yeah, for sure.

And I noticed that you posted some great pictures from down at the lake and you're so close to the lake, which is nice. Thank you. But I was going to say, because this is the coldest day of the year potentially, that I can't think of a better way to warm myself than hearing your voice. Because in all sincerity, and you can listen to all 105 episodes i don't say this to everybody this is the first time i said it i think you have my favorite radio voice of all of them wow don't fall off that chair now that is very very this is the truth and um yeah just just the tone of the voice and maybe the memories uh from hearing it uh when i was in college and stuff in university i should say uh yeah it just brings was in college and stuff, in university, I should say.

Yeah, it just brings back good memories and it's just a warm texture to this voice. I love it. Well, thank you for complimenting the voice. And I think a lot of it may have to do, like you said, with memories too. And I think that's how songs work for us. And that's why so many of us love songs from years ago because we'll hear it and it'll remind us

of something great from our university years or youthful years. And so those become really great triggers for us, those songs. So I'm just going to get the phone booth and ask you to just read it to me. Can we do that? Is that cool? Sure. Are we allowed to point out that your daughter is here? Yeah, Lauren joined me. But not on the microphone, even though I have an extra mic for her. And again, the funny thing was I said to you, I said, I remember when I was listening to Erin, she had Rob with her husband who has a great memory. And I said, oh, my gosh, you know, Mike, my memories on some things fails me.

Unfortunately, Lauren, although there for a lot of it was too young and she won't remember anything either. So pretty much will be of no help for me today. Just as you pulled up, I was on the phone with humble Howard Glassman. We were talking about Chromecast because I bought these two Chromecast devices and it's what he needs and I'm trying to sell him on it. I don't get a commission. I just think it's amazing. And then he said he remembered you from when you were a baby. Lauren, yeah.

Well, yeah, you know, a lot of people do because, well, I was working at CFNY before Lauren and, you know, Scott also remembers many things about Lauren because I was pregnant and he at that time Scott Turner and I had a show together live in Toronto yes on CFNY so throughout my whole pregnancy Scott and I worked together poor guy okay before we dive in uh to the CFNY I need to ask you about your name yeah Yeah. So you spell May, for those who don't know, it's M-A-I-E. Is May, is this the proper pronunciation? What's the deal there? Well, the name is Estonian and I never changed my real name. And so it's, if you were to pronounce it in Estonian, it's Maye Bauts. And years ago when I first started, there was some suggestion of maybe doing a different name. And quite frankly, I didn't know. I didn't think about longevity.

So I just thought, well, no. And I tried different names for myself, like, you know, whatever. And none of them felt right. And so I just stuck with May because that's who I am. It works. It's almost like in the age of Google, it's like this is a tough one because no one can spell this name.

I guess you have to hope Google corrects you. No, and you know what? I get a lot of M-A-Y-P-O-T-T-S mail. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Amy Potts from Ghostbusters. Okay, so that's the name deal because that was one of the questions I would get. And I've always, I think it's kind of one of the questions I would get. And, uh, I've,

I've always, I think it's kind of one of those trivial facts. Like when you learn how you spell Maypots, which I, I learned in like the early nineties or something. Yeah. Early on. Right. And, uh, it's like, Hey, did you know? It's like one of those things, Maypot. Um, but yeah, you would never, you would never guess. Nobody would guess that spelling. Absolutely not. And one last, like some, uh, Sunday was the golden was the Golden Globes and my mom was over watching a movie and she told me she had to leave because she needed to watch two hours of red carpet. And I just want to know, because there's two ladies in the room, am I the only one who can't stand these red carpet shows? Like, what do you think? You know what?

Generally speaking, we don't like them either. We do watch the E1, but Lauren and I even sort of zoned in and out of that one. But that's the one that is two hours. Yeah, the E1 starts like two hours before the broadcast. What gets tiring is the inane questions. I mean, you've got some really great people there and it's like, well, who are you wearing? Do we care which designer that gave them something to wear? But it's become a big thing and it's a big thing for the designers to get their names out there and stuff.

But I agree with you. I'm not necessarily watching all of the red carpet coverage. I saw like they had George Clooney there and then she was asking her about George Clooney's got a tequila or something. Yeah. Yeah. And I was thinking of all the questions, like how many interesting questions would you have for, if I had George Clooney sitting in here, I got questions and none of them are really about a tequila. Like I got some questions for George. But I think what the problem for them is they have to keep it light. These people aren't in interview mode when they're on the red carpet, they're going into the party. And I think what they've only got maybe 30 seconds to a minute. So they have to keep it light and

fluffy. No, I get it. But this is like, you're right though. My mom has a better question. Yeah. And she's billing her weekend around this two before the Golden Globes, which can be tedious as it is, but the two hours of red carpet, I just can't imagine somebody like, I don't understand what my mom sees in it. But someone's watching. Tons of people are watching, yeah. Did you like the Golden Globes, though? I actually watched and I don't remember too much of it.

My point is exactly about award shows, by the way. I watch award shows, but I don't really care who wins or loses because I'll tell you, nobody remembers that afterwards. I watched the award show as a show of its own entity. So to me, because I really, I watched the Oscars last year and I may remember some bits about what the hosts were doing or some of the comedic elements and stuff. Yeah. But I never remember who won what. You know, I don't, I just know Michael Keaton made a good speech, I thought.

And I remember Tina and Amy Polner made a couple of funny jokes and went at Bill Cosby. And I just, these are the things I remember in that three hours of television. That's right. I won't take an awful lot away from it, but it's not meant to be takeaway television. It's just light stuff. Do you mind if I play two minutes of you? Oh my gosh. Okay, go ahead.

That's a good answer because if you had said no, I was still going to do it. I know. Is this your show? Because I said so. That is The Godfathers from CFNY 102. We also heard from Zodiac Mind Warps and the love reaction, the clash in there. Sending that one out to Kevin. Clamped down, and we started off with the fall.

Just got a few requests, actually, last night while I was at York Mills Collegiate for the Roadshow. What a great party that was. And, of course, so many requests came through. I had to promise a few for tonight for the folks at that school. Great time a great party that was. And of course so many requests came through. I had to promise a few for tonight for the folks at that school. Great time, great party. Thanks a lot. And if you're looking for the road show, the next stop is Saturday night

at Phillip Pocock Secondary School. That's out in Etobicoke. Your host for the evening will be Hal Harbour. Gets underway at 7.30pm. And just a note, if you want the road show to make it over to your school, just give CFNY a call at this number, 453-7452, and get it booked. CFNY! If you're looking to do something for your Saturday night club-wise, there's a few things

going on around town, actually quite a few things. The Pursuit of Happiness are going to be at Lee's Palace for Saturday evening. The Phantoms are checking into Alberts Hall. Billy Bryans, the drummer with the Parachute Club, is joining Lillian Allen. He's worked with her before and they're doing kind of something different, an improvisational poetry and rhythm evening at the Blue Room. They're doing two shows, 10, 30 and 12. Billy Paul, remember him?

Me and Mrs. Jones? Yes. He's going to be at Network. Razorbacks are at Sybony. And a whole bunch of people are playing the Silver Dollar. I'll let you know who's downstairs first. Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet, along with the Dundrells and Heimlich Maneuver and the Dick Van Dykes. All that at the downstairs Silver Dollar.

Upstairs, you can catch the Asexuals in from Montreal. Also joining them will be Problem Children. Danny Marks is at OV's. And it seems as though the big thing right now is New Orleans music and food. If you've noticed, there's all of a sudden restaurants offering Cajun spices with absolutely everything. You could probably get a hot dog with Cajun spices. But at any rate, if you're into the music of New Orleans, there's a New Orleans Saturday night extravaganza prepared for the Brigantine Room down at the York East Center along with Mighty Sam McClain and Katie Webster taking care of the vocals.

So if you want to check that out. Sounds like a lot of fun, actually. What else is going on? The Dandelions and the Lawn, two different bands. Sounds like they kind of go together, though. They're trekking into the cabana. And at the horseshoe, it's Paul James. Wow.

Yeah, I love that crap. Do you know what? That was like 1,000 flashbacks in two minutes. Yeah. Holy cow. What happened to the Razorbacks? I was just, that's the first time. I haven't heard the Razorbacks in so long, but I remember they were a pretty kind of cool

kind of a rockabilly thing going on. They played the horseshoe all the time. They were there a lot. And it was funny listening to that because it just reinforced in my mind what a music-oriented station we were, that we were allowed to talk for two minutes and give every club listing on the planet.

Yeah, you couldn't do that today, right? No, you couldn't do that today. And yeah, that was great. I mean, all the bands in the basement of the Silver... It's just, yeah, you guys... We lived and breathed that. Those are concert listings. Now it's just who's at the amphitheater and who's at the ACC.

And I don't even know if there's that many venues for live music in Toronto anymore. Not to that extent. We just... When you think about that era, we were... Toronto is still a music town for sure. But there was just so much always going on. Tell me how you ended up on CFNY 102.1. I followed Scott Turner.

He has a funny story with that. Tell me. Okay. What I mean by that is I worked at a station called CKMW. And I met Scott Turner there. He was the midday host and the music director. And CKMW was called Rhythm Radio 790 back then. And I got the overnight gig there. And interesting way of programming that station, it was

multicultural for half the day. And the other half the day was, you know, dance, R&B, reggae, really interesting format. It was a lot of fun. We were in the same building as CFNY and we were down the hall. So in order for me to get to 790, I had to walk through CFNY. So eventually Scott left 790 and got the overnight gig at CFNY. Then I moved up to his old job. I became middays and music director. Of course, little stations like that, you do everything. You sell advertising, you write commercial copy, you do it all. It's a hoot.

And then they changed their format to all Italian and multicultural. Perfect for you. Oh, I was out of a job. I was out of a gig. And then remember Pete and Gates? Of course. I was good buddies with Gates as well. And he called me up one one evening and said

oh marston's looking for somebody i said great because but this time i had gone back to working in the eaton center in a jewelry store because i couldn't get i didn't have another gig on radio and i had to pay my rent so um i sent off my demo i made a demo because all this time by the way all this time i was still working at cklnN, the campus station at Ryerson, which is where I'd gone to school. Even when I was at Rhythm Radio 790, I never gave up my Friday night show at CKLN. So I went and did a demo for CFNY, tailored it to them, and was just like praying that I would get the gig. The funny thing was that I reminded Marston of this story. He didn't remember it. I said, I don't remember anything. People don't remember things. And Marston didn't remember this, but when he

hired me, I was in between apartments. I remember that. And I only had this part-time jewelry job. And I remember finally after my interview with him, phoning up his assistant, Leslie Cross, and saying, do you know if Dave has made a decision yet? And she said, well, she said, I don't know. And I got a call later that day. And he said, May, and you know, the way Dave Marston speaks, May, this is David. I go, oh, hi, how are you? He goes, good. I understand you've been looking for an apartment. You have to move. And I'm sitting there thinking, is he going to tell me about an apartment that he's got for rent? My concern was that it's hard to find an apartment when you're not working because landlords say, where do you work? And if you say, oh, really nowhere. So he says, I

understand that you've been looking for an apartment and haven't been able to tell them where you work. And I said, yeah, that's been a little bit of an issue. He goes, well, May, the next time you look at an apartment and the landlord asks you where you work, you tell them C-F-N-Y. That's a great story. I lost it. I just screamed. I was dancing. I was so happy. And I finally said to him, Dave, Dave, I got to go. I got to phone everybody I know and tell them that I'm working for you. Bye. That's an amazing story. Do you know David Marsden is going to be

on episode 106, the next episode. No way! And we record shortly. Do you know why that's brilliant? Tell me. Because this is the first time that Marsden has followed me. Because I followed him often after his Christmas Eve show, doing the overnight. Oh, that's funny. But unfortunately, once again, you've had to follow Scott Turner because he was episode 102. That's all right.

Scott and I, great buddies. I love him to death. Yeah. By the way, nicest guy. Yeah. First time I met him was when he was in the basement here. Just the nicest guy. And you know what? When I was listening to people who I wanted to sound like, I would say that I emulated a lot of my style from Scott. Cool. I remember when Marsden was hiring me, he gave me really great advice. And we're talking about on air and he had been Dave Mickey, and he'll tell you that story as a character in his AM radio days. And he said to me, May, you know what, the main thing to be on radio is yourself. He said, I've done characters. And if

you make a persona or become a character, you have to be that all the time. And when you run into people outside of work, you're still going to have to be that character. So it's really important to be yourself. And I think that's really the most important bit of advice I've ever been given for radio is, and it's the hard, it's one of the hardest things to do because it's easier to be a persona than to be vulnerable and to be who you are. Oh, absolutely. Like wearing a mask. Yeah, absolutely. And it's funny, he wants you to be yourself, except he wants Scott Turner to spell his name S-K-O-T. So did he want that or did Scott want that? I got it on tape, as they say. Yeah, it was his idea to go S-K-O-T. See, I was okay. My name was freaky enough as it was already. I'm surprised he didn't ask you to pronounce it the Estonian way. Yeah. But that's great. Yeah. I love the Marsden.

I had Marsden. Oh, we'll talk later. But I did speak to him for a previous episode, but he's never had his own. We've never had a one-on-one about David Marsden's career. So I'm super looking forward to that. But yeah, he's next. Oh, he'll be fascinating. He'll be fascinating. So you're at CFNY and you excitedly tell everybody you're there. So tell me about your days at CFNY. Fantastic. I was there from 86, 87 to about 2001. So it was a good long run there. Had so many great experiences there from when I first started. Those clips that you played earlier are definitely early days, CFNY. And then of course, there were a lot of changes that happened in the 90s, but it still was a really exciting environment to be in. When you think about what music was in the 90s, they

picked up on what was the on-trend thing with, you know, the new rock thing for the 90s. And it was a lot of fun to be there. So many changes, so many great people. People in music is what that station was all about. And it was a lot of fun. So who are you changes so many great people people in music is what that station was all about and it was a lot of fun so who are you still in touch with from those days um well scott uh gee you know um just trying to think of all right no see this is i'm sorry this is my job to throw you off it's uh let's see who do i stay in touch with Alan Cross all the time. Yeah, we are very regularly in touch. And there are people that I, that we sort of Facebook friend and chat, but we don't necessarily go out together all the time. But someone like Alan, we'll get together, Alan and Marilyn, and I will go have dinner and things like that.

Cool. Yeah, Alan was a previous guest too. He's back, him and Scott. Oh, Scott was with Chorus anyways, I guess, but he does the Sunday, the Sunday now. But, uh, when we, I stay in touch with, uh, Freddie and, um, just like I said, there's people that we email and we stay in touch that way, but we don't always get together. Of course, everybody's really spread out geographically too. You know, when I talk, when I talk to Fred, we speak often about his days in radio and he lights up when he talks about CFNY. He lights up.

These are the days he has the fondest memories of when David Marsden was running CFNY. You know, it was a very different station. And you know what, though? I must say, as much as I had a wonderful time and a great run at CFNY, I've been really blessed with my career that everywhere I've been, I've had a great experience. blessed with my career that everywhere I've been, I've had a great experience. And so even when I moved on and the one experience that was a really different one for me was when I went to Mojo, which was talk radio. Oh, that's a good look. Segways, right? They teach you this or is this something you don't? I hear the radio people and their segues. I got one more clip. It's not quite

as good of audio as that last clip, but I'm going to play this, and then you're going to tell me about this move to Mojo. And now I'm looking forward to a new venture. I'm moving into talk radio at AM 640 and with a new show that I'm excited to bits about. I can't tell you how thrilled I am at this opportunity. And hopefully another 14 years from now, I can look back at another chapter in my life with as much happiness and fulfillment as I am looking back right now on the last 14 years here at CFNY Edge 102. All the best to you and thanks again.

I'm Mae Potts. Cheers. It's very emotional. I still remember the emotion of that day. Feel free to cry. No, I was in tears there. I mean, I got really choked up. Yeah, no, that was very emotional.

And it was really nice because it's not very often in radio that people are given the opportunity to say goodbye and to say where they're going. That's so true. It helped that I was staying within the same company. That's the trick. That's the way it was. And yeah, that Mojo experience was a real eye-opener for me

because I had always been in music radio. Mojo was talk radio. And my hat's off to people who do talk. It is hard. It's a challenge. You have to have so much prepared every day. You know, anybody can, not anybody, but a lot of people can talk, but to be talking and engaging and interesting and moving it forward.

You know who's good at this, who was at CFNY too, was a good friend of Freddie P's, is Mike Stafford. Excellent. Yeah. Isn't he like the best at that? Yes. Yeah. And I think it helped that he also has that news background too. He's really on topic all the time. But you know what? Yeah, that was a crazy experience, Mojo, for me. Others, I might as well just name them. What the heck, right? I don't have a boss I have to report to at the end of this podcast. But Fred, speaking of

the devil, again, he moved to Mojo. So they moved to Mojo. So I guess I'm trying to remember, was it just you and Humble and Fred who left 102 for Mojo? Was that it? Or am I missing anything? Yeah, because Alan went out to Hamilton at that point. Yeah. So it was interesting because it wasn't necessarily initially in my idea to move there. But when our program director went over to Mojo as well, and he offered me the opportunity, I thought, okay, you know, changes were afoot and let me go for this. But it really wasn't the right fit for me. It was, and I don't know if talk radio is not the right fit for me,

but that format of talk radio wasn't the right fit for me. And so it came to an end. And then I think by the fall of that year, I was looking for another opportunity. And then I landed at Chum FM. Now, yeah, I want to talk about Chum. So is it safe to say looking for another opportunity? Does that just mean they decided to... Oh, they moved me on.

They moved you on? It really didn't work out between us. You know, not on a bad way. I didn't leave with bad feelings at all. But we both agreed but yeah definitely I was moved on out of that position you know what it was a lot of stuff that really I wasn't even comfortable talking about it was mojo radio talk radio for guys I don't know anything about sports so if you can imagine uh being in that magazine show and having

because it was trying to be like Maxim right it was like Mac wasn't it trying to be or my misremembering I remember it in real time like it was trying to be like Maxim right it was like Mac wasn't it trying to be or my misremembering I remember it in real time like it was trying to be like Maxim magazine I think they had a lot of great ideas and I think that you know some things really worked well but for me like I said it just didn't make sense for me to really be there so yeah I got I got let go from there and um and then I just and then because of the background that I had my daughter's laughing because I was like well first of all when I was let go I mean I told her she goes she was in middle school she's like great you can come on school trips now yeah I know that's the silver lining things differently and I was like oh yeah okay because you know you have a working mom it's

always you know they can never come on any of those school trips. So she saw this as a total positive. Then I remember thinking, well, now what am I going to do? You know, thinking that I would never find another job in radio again. So I was actually starting to think, well, maybe what am I capable of? What else can I do? Maybe I could become a real estate agent. I like looking at houses.

I don't know. You could be a good PR rep because you're well-spoken and everyone likes you. Thank you. Yeah, at that point, I didn't know what I was going to do next. But then a really wonderful guy, Rob Farina, gave me a call. And he said, hey, I hear you're not working right now. He says, that's crazy. Let's have lunch.

So we went and had lunch and Rob Freena was the program director of Chum FM. And he said to me, I don't have anything right now for you, but if you're interested, maybe I can get you in for some weekend shifts or something in the new year. I said, okay. And that's exactly what happened. And then before I knew it, it just turned into a wonderful opportunity. And it turned into a full-time opportunity at Chum FM for eight years. Wow, cool. Yeah. Just before we leave, I just realized I had a couple of points I wanted to touch on while we were on the chorus era of Maypods.

One is, knowing how shifts work and that he was like an overnight guy and everything, and you're a midday person or whatever. Did you ever cross paths with Martin Streak? Martin Streak and I worked together an awful lot. Because when I first was there on air, he wasn't on air. He just ran the video road show. Right. So we got to know each other. Which you were doing, because I heard it in the clip.

You were at Philip Wilcock in Tulsa. I was all over the place. And he was running the show, and I would go out with him, and we'd put on these shows which were a ton of fun no i remember so yeah no and i think marty and i saw each other a lot absolutely um and you know what it's it's still so weird because just the week before he passed away um i'm just trying to remember how we ended up getting in touch. And I sent him an email and I said, gee, Marty, I said, it's been so long. We really should go have a drink. And he wrote back and he said, if you mean that, that would be fantastic. I would love that. I said, for sure, I mean that. So, well, he was going to LA at that point. Yeah. Yeah. I think he went to LA

and I said, okay, well, we'll be, we'll be in touch when you get back and we'll go for a drink. And when he came back is when we lost Marty. And I just remember being so taken aback and devastated by that news. Uh, yeah, I'm, I'm the, when I spoke to David Marsden, it was actually, cause I was putting together this like five year after his passing, like a retrospective on Martin Streak. And I talked to, when I spoke to David Marsden, it was actually, cause I was putting together this like five year after his passing, like a retrospective on Martin Streak. And I talked to David Marsden as episode 82, if anyone's looking for that one.

But I just had George Strombolopoulos on the show, like episode one, he called it 102.1. It was actually 103 and it was very confusing. I found it confusing, but we, it was 103. And yeah,

he talked about seeing Martin in, in LA. That's, they went to a comedy show. No, actually that was, but he spoke, you know, very, he was very close with Martin and he spoke very heartfelt on the topic. But I always ask that question because I was only a fan of Martin. Like I was just a fan, but I was, it hit me quite hard as a guy who just listened to him on live to airs and Thursday 30s and stuff. I can't imagine how it would hit the people who knew him and loved him. You know, when you talk about people and I, and you think about memories and I can't remember a whole bunch of different stories about Martin, but I can tell you what I can remember about Martin was how the way he made

everybody feel good. And it didn't matter who you were, when he walked into a room or if you came into the room, he always made a point of making you feel welcome, acknowledging your presence. He made everybody feel special. And that's what made him so special too. Yeah. It's just a terrible loss. And of course, it goes without saying, based on what your story just told, is that you didn't see anything like this coming. I didn't.

Maybe some people that were closer to him were aware of the troubles that he had, but I don't know. Again, Freddie P, who comes up for the third time, but he tells a story that, that, that, uh, Martin was very upset at the severance situation with his, uh, with chorus letting him go. And there was a severance situation,

but nothing that would make you think he would do what he eventually did. No, I don't know. I don't know if, if that was, you know, one thing of many that maybe affected him. I'm not sure.

Yeah. And the last thing, well, before we leave the chorus area here is that, uh, I remember going to U of T. I went to U of T. Of course, I remember going there, too. And I remember there was a Frosh Week thing going on, and I remember

you were there. And I remember thinking, hey, pretty cool. Look, there's May Potts. We used to bring the midday show out to Frosh, to the first week. We went all over the place for university weeks in September when everybody was coming back. It was a lot of fun.

I thought that was pretty exciting. There may be plots recording live from the U of T. To this day, and I think that's why I can, not only because I was always out broadcasting, but we had always street level studios for most of my career at CFNY. It is why to this day, I can't work in a closed door studio.

When I started working at Chum FM, that was one of the things that I did. I left the door open and people kept coming and shutting it thinking that was a mistake. Oh, you gotta shut the door. No, I said, I can't handle being in a closed studio anymore. Everywhere I work now, the door is always open. I love when people just walk in. When I worked at the storefront studio on Bloor Street, Bathurst and Bloor, I was the first person. The booth was right near the front, and we had a promo person at the back for prize pickups. But everybody who came in, because I was the first one,

they thought I was the... They thought you were the promo person. Yeah, I'm here to pick up a prize. Okay, I'll be right with you right after I do this break on the air. That's funny. That's funny. Yeah, that's great. So tell me a bit about Chum FM. Who did you enjoy working with at Chum? Everybody. I mean,

I was working with, as soon as I got there, I met people like Gord James and Roger Ashby and, you know, Lee Ackley. These are legendary people in radio. And so it was a bit mind-blowing. Mind-blowing because I didn't know they knew who I was. Seriously, when you work in radio, you don't know who knows. Look, I'm still surprised being such a wonderful opportunity. And again, I can't thank Rob Freena enough. He was the one that brought me in and he gave me a lot of great opportunities there. And he allowed me to become one of their regular interviewers. Actually, that became a really big part of my job was interviewing artists. And I got to, you know, thanks to the record companies and to Chum, I got to fly around and go to New York and to LA

and interview all these artists and come back and put, and that was a great creative bastion because I would come back with the interview. I would pick the clips, I would pick the songs, and then I would work with the producer to put it together. And it was put out across the Chum Radio Network, these interviews. I loved that opportunity. Who's your favorite interview? You know, that's a really tough question because I've had some fantastic interviews over the years. And if we go back to, you know, CFNY days even. But, boy, let's see.

Some of the great ones. Alicia Keys was a wonderful interview. Roger Hodgson from Super Champ. Fantastic interview. He comes up here fairly regularly to Casino Rama stuff. Tori Amos was a great interview. Although that was a weird one because

she was going to be playing for us and the keyboard, something was wrong with the keyboard and it was like, this is when CFNY, we had the studio in Brampton. We had to get Long and McQuaid to quickly get another keyboard up in like record time. That was nuts. I've been, yeah, if I could go on and on about great interviews.

Michael Stipe from REM was one of my favorites. There's just so many. Cool. So you did this for Chum FM and this was syndicated? So this wasn't just in 104.5? No, it was there on their radio network, the Chum radio network. And they had a whole bunch of stations across the country. So it went there for sure.

You met my wife earlier, Monica. She told me a story the other day that she won Sex and the City movie passes when you were at Chum. And she had to pick them up from you. So that was, yeah. So I said, hey. Yeah, you've met, because I was trying to think if I ever met Mae Potts. And I only remember one time at Boom I met you oh is that right you probably don't remember this at all but I was in there with Howard and I got it was a quick like how could you ever remember that you

must get like hundreds of those uh a week but I it was a quick like introduction in the morning well I was probably also prepping for my show because I was on after him so I was in a different zone probably yeah for sure even thinking but yeah oh that's and I think did we not meet also at the Humble and Fred anniversary thing just I don't know if we met like I was there I saw you there I saw you there but I don't think we ever had like an interaction that's true we were on the same stage just not at the same time that's how that one worked uh that was fun though uh because yes because strombo was there and that's when I was like dude you got to come on like enough talk let's rock yeah yeah no that's great that's great. That's a good time. Tell me, so Boom.

Boom, did you leave Chum for Boom? So did you quit Chum to take a role at Boom or tell me what happened? Yeah. Well, at Chum, it was, like I said, I had a great run there and I was doing weekends and filling in for Marilyn Dennis in the mornings and doing interviews. But it really wasn't, it was a full-time position and I'm doing air quotes, but I wasn't. Air quotes don't work on podcasts, Mae. I know. That's why I'm saying I'm doing air quotes.

I had to give the verbal of that, but it wasn't full-time as far as hours. And so, you know, this opportunity came up to be back on the radio every single day. And once again, it was Rob Farina who had now left Chum and was working for Astro at this point. He was the one who said, you know, would you be interested in maybe leaving Chum? Do you think maybe you'd like to come and work at? This guy's a good contact for you. Yeah. Let's send him roses after this. I know. He knows how thankful I am. I thank him all the time

for a lot of opportunities he's given me. But yeah, so I went over to Boom because I really liked the idea of the station as well. I loved the fact that it's sort of like a top 40 for, you know, the over 25 crowd. That's basically what the station is. So it plays a little bit of everything, sort of like the music of my life. It's a little bit of, you know, stuff that you would have heard back in the day on CFNY. Also, you know, stuff that you would have heard, in the day on CFNY. Also, stuff that you would have heard from the rock stations, but also a little disco, a little of that. I don't know if you remember as a kid listening to CFTR and Chum,

and those AM stations, they played everything in that Top 40 format. You could hear the Doobie Brothers and then ABBA. Yeah, I remember. You'd hear like George Harrison, I Got My Mind Set On You, and then they'd go into like Madonna. Yeah, it remember you'd have like George Harrison. I got my mind set on you. And then they're going to like Madonna. It wasn't divided by musical genre. It was just hits. You know what?

Okay. I actually on torontomic.com, I asked, does anyone have a question for Mae Potts? Because you were coming in a couple hours. And somebody said, and I disagree with this person, but they said they found it jarring that you would go from like a, I don't know, an up-tempo disco thing to like a more ballady thing.

Like they found it jarring. They wanted, this is him talking, not me, but to put it into like genre half-hour blocks, like this is the half hour for like dance music. This is the half hour for like rock music, like that kind of. But the problem when you do that is if you don't like, if you have a listener who doesn't like dance music,

then they're going to go. They're going to be gone if they know they're going to be listening. I've never had this issue. I don't like if you have a listener who doesn't like dance music then they're gonna go they're gonna they're gonna be gone if they know they're gonna i've never had this i don't have this difficulty and i know now i'm thinking of casey casem had to come out of the up-tempo song and talk about the dead dog you ever hear this clip like like now it's in my head right now but like classic radio story that's right yeah i don't have a problem like if you're gonna play like a beat i don't know if you play you play a bgs thing uh and then you're gonna come into like uh promises or whatever like i don't i can do that yeah no i think you know what for this person i understand they're looking more for a more fluid experience but generally speaking no i don't think it is an issue it's definitely hasn't been an issue for us i think that's one

of the charms about boom and i think one of the reasons that people like it is it is sort of a station for everyone so if you like, you know you're going to hear some rock. If you like pop, you're going to hear some pop. It's sort of mixed up. Yeah, I think you're right. Every time I listen to Boom, I always hear something I like. It's just fun. You'll hear the German version of 99 Love Belongs

and not that awful English version. Oh, and then I'll get emails from people saying stop playing the German version. I want to hear the English. You should burn the English version like i don't see the purpose of it no get rid of that okay uh always sounds good always sounds good and uh yeah and i remember at the big when it started because howard was on easy rock i'm trying to my brain trying to change gears i guess so howard was on easy rock with colleen yeah with colleen and then they just switched over so i sort of had somebody on the inside right so i was like a reason to listen if you will and yeah i like

still like it yeah and i remember my first break my first um on-air break uh on boom was going into new order and i thought okay this place is good for me yeah and people with this people my a lot of people my age and maybe a little older a a little younger, when they hear your voice and they hear that song, like you said at the beginning, it takes you back. There you go. You're back. I love that aspect of radio. And I love the connection that being in radio in the same market for so many years has afforded me. Not everybody has this wonderful experience of having their career in

one city, especially in radio. In a big city too. This isn't Kitchener here. This is the big smoke. So I love the fact that I hear from people and we do reminisce and we do connect on that because we do have an ongoing relationship that's been happening since the 80s. And it's pretty special. And I'm very grateful for that. Wicked. Could you disclose like an awful song you have to play that, you know, just between you and I, like something you have to play on Boom that you just hate? I know there's probably a long list.

You'll probably tell me as soon as I press stop. No, you know what? Or your daughter will tell me because she probably knows. Which one? Oh, Paul McCartney's Silly Little Love Songs. Can't stand that. Nor his Christmas song. Oh, yeah, the wonderful Christmas song.

My least favorite Christmas song you hear. Pretty much my least favorite song. Is it terrible? Not only of Christmas, but of all time. The only reason I think that it ever even existed is because it's got his name attached to it. Yeah, he was a Beatle. It's horrible. It's a terrible song.

And you know what? But he's, but I forgive him because he wrote, maybe I'm amazed. He gets some, you know, makes up for it. You give him a long leash.

That song's wretched. That Christmas one. You're right. Yeah. It's actually, it's actually horrible. Uh, and can I ask you your favorite song that you get to play on boom?

Um, so on the boom playlist, you know what? There's, there's quite a few a few but oh actually i mentioned this the other day whenever i get to play this i love verve's better bittersweet symphony the verve were a band that when they split i was just like oh and i remember when i heard coldplay going oh they're just a poor man's verve and then when richard ashcroft opened up for coldplay at the molson everything i wouldn't see it all makes sense because apparently chris martin is a huge richard ashcroft opened up for Coldplay at the Molson Amphitheater, I went, see, it all makes sense. Because apparently Chris Martin is a huge Richard Ashcroft.

Well, yeah, I know. A couple of things. One is I'm tired of people referring to The Verve as one hit wonders because Lucky Man was a big hit, right? Great song, too. Yeah, and even Much Music played the hell out of the video. So at least you got to give them two charting big hits, right? But I get, you know what, I get to play a lot of great stuff on boom so there's not just one but that one just came to mind because i think i played it yesterday and i said something about oh i love whenever i can play this for a song

and what is it the line he had is that he he gave mick jagger his biggest hit in years yes they sued for that loop which is almost indecipherable but it's uh it's and it wasn't stones have a writing fight on that, but it was actually someone else. The orchestra part? Yes. Yes. It even goes beyond the Stones. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, I know. It's ridiculous. You know, with these rules, like I'm just staring at the Public Enemy t-shirt on the wall. I'm thinking like you could never make Fear of a Black Planet today with all the legal stuff around. It gets complicated. That's for sure. I don't think you could afford to make that album today. Yeah.

You'd have to do what Girl Talk does. Okay. So I don't know if you heard girl talk but girl talk is a guy of all and he mashes together like a lot of older tunes with like hip-hop current stuff pop stuff mashes it all together it's amazing and he just throws it on the internet for free and then he tours and that's how he makes his money and i don't know if he found a gray area because he doesn't charge for selling the music or whatnot, because he's not getting the rights to these tunes. Sometimes it's also not the artists, but I think the folks who have the publishing rights and things,

because it's not always, I know that George Clinton, for example, is perfectly cool with everybody sampling his stuff. Yeah. And someone else. Yeah. There are certain artists that are fine with it. But yeah, I guess it depends. One quick question about what happened just very recently on CFNY,

a spirit of radio. So you, tell me, I didn't hear it, but I saw the pictures. So Scott Turner was having David Marsden in for a Sunday. Right. This is recently. Yes. Within the last month. Yes. And you show up. But did you go on Sunday. Right. This is recently. Yes. Within the last month. Yes.

And you show up. But did you go on air? No. Okay, okay. No, no. This is the detail I wasn't sure about. Scott mentioned that Dave Marsden was going to be on the air. And he invited anybody who wanted to come down.

And we would go for drinks afterwards. So that's basically why I was there. I wasn't there to be an on-air presence. But I came during the last half hour, hour of the show. And then we all went for dinner. Could you go on air though? Like would a Bell be, like, how does that work? Well, I don't work for Bell, by the way.

It's NuCap is who owns Boom. You know why? Because I always think I've done a thing in my head where Astral became Bell. It did. But NuCap took Boom? Right. Because what happened was Bell bought Astral,

but Bell had already bought Chum. So they had a lot of stations in certain markets already. So when they got Astral, Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto are the three that come to mind, but there were two others. They had to divest. Oh, because CRTC rule or something, right? Yeah, because they couldn't own that many stations. Gotcha.

So they ended up selling and we have, New Cap owns this. New Cap. And they're a wonderful company from the East Coast originally, but they're all across the country as well. Does New Cap own anything else in the GTA? Yeah, Flow. Flow, okay, yeah. Because they bought Flow too.

You think I know this, right? Yeah. I'm sorry. No, it's okay. You're educating me. No, you know what it is? There's just been so, in the last decade, yeah flow flow okay yeah i know too yeah i think i know this right yeah i'm sorry it's okay you're educating me no you know what it is there's just been so in the last decade there has been more changeover of ownerships i think and it's hard to keep track of things i can totally understand because i had i know i know i had in my head where everyone i mean you can be cbc obviously

but you're pretty much rogers bell or chorus but then there's of course new cap and then you got some guys like indy and these other little guys here. Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, no, that's who NuCap has. And would they have been cool with it? I don't know. I didn't... No, I was... Because when I thought there was a Bell station, I was just thinking, like, would Bell be cool if you appear on a chorus stage?

Do you have to clear that with somebody? Well, you know what? I didn't ask because I didn't think I wasn't going to be on there. No, and you didn't go on anyway. But I did have the opportunity. They were perfectly fine when there was that tribute to Martin on air. Oh, yes, of course. And so I went to my boss and I said, you know what?

I've been asked to do this. How do you feel about it? He goes, oh, that's a pretty important thing to do. So I've got good people that I'm working for. And, yeah, I was absolutely able to contribute to the show that was honoring Martin. No, that's good to hear because I'd hate to see, you know, politics and that stuff getting away with something like that. Especially when it's things like that. So yeah. No, like I said, it's been so far so good. Who else was there? So Scott? Danielle Will. Oh yeah. She's the one

who quit on the air, right? Yes. that's right. She's famous for that. I know. And it's all I think of now when I hear her name because that's amazing. No one does that. No, that was. Well, you know what, though? And I understood why she did it, because if she had just gone in and quit. She wouldn't have been able to say what she wanted to say.

Right. So she said what she wanted to say. It's like a movie. Yeah. Like you lock the doors and you're going to do. Yes. It's funny you say that. I remember I was in New York to interview Brian Adams, even though he's Canadian, I had to go to New York to interview him. And I was in the, uh, it was in the hotel room and I was

listening to, um, one of the American stations and Steve Harvey was on the morning show and they were having one of those big Powerball things in the States. And his host said, uh, you know, oh, he asked his host, would you quit his cohost, would you quit if you won the Powerball? And she said, yeah. I love my job, but, you know, whatever, $500 million, yeah, I wouldn't come in. And she goes, wouldn't you? And he says, not right away. He goes, no, I would actually come in, lock the door, and do one more show.

You know what? And that's the rest of the story. Say what I wanted to say. That's perfect. That's awesome. Quick question about, you're a female. Did you know this?

Wow. Breaking news. I would play the alert, but that's crazy. And this is just a guy. I'm glad we figured that out. Yeah, clearly. Just as a guy who follows radio as a fan of radio it seems to me lately a lot of like

i'd call them veteran female broadcasters seem to be let go it just seems the perception i might be wrong i gotta go crunch some analytics here and see it just seems like it's a tough industry for people of that ilk and and some have found jobs elsewhere like barbara julio etc but it seems like there was a wave of veteran female journalists being let go yeah and on air on television too i i noticed that too and you know like ann roszkowski and all like you can go on i should have had a list if i were yeah you don't notice that and then you would think that okay well maybe they're just but then they are replaced with women who look a little bit younger. So what do you think of that? Because the fact is, and I won't name the person, but I've had these off the record chats where, yes, somebody will come in, let's say a third year age and we'll do it for a third year salary. That's not fair. No, it's awful. And it's unfortunate if

that is what happens because usually in any job, whether it's in radio or in any career, not even just mine, you spend a certain number of years, you do start by making virtually nothing. Yes. And then you get to a point where, yeah, you feel as though you're on top of your game. You're doing really great. And you are making more money. You're making maybe good money now. But how do you fight that if all they're looking at is the bottom line? Like if you're just a number and there's just a shareholder meeting and it's just you need to have this in the ledger. There needs to be a different number.

So you think it's more being experienced and less being an experienced female? I think it depends on what the company is about and what they care about. Do they care about their product? Do they care? And, and, and I am a product basically. And I, I don't mean that in a bad way, but I am, you know, I'm what they're. You're a commodity that they sell you. They sell you as a commodity. If they care about that, if they care about quality, then they'll pay for that.

If they don't, yeah, sure, they can put in someone younger with less experience who will work for less money. There's always going to be those people. I hate it when that happens. But will that person bring what they need also, as far as what their job is required? Are they bringing what is needed to the table? You thought this would be a very light CFNY. You didn't think I'd come up with the hardball questions here.

Oh, you know what? But it's definitely a topic that comes up. And, you know, a lot of people, and it's not just women, it's an experience for a lot of people in almost any industry that you can be replaced by someone who will work for less. And usually they're younger. Well, that's because, yeah, young people will work for stuff that, they will work for peanuts. And you know what, I understand that too. They can afford to. Some of them live with their parents or still have help from their parents. Hey, listen, it's a tough

market out there right now for young people to try and get jobs. You know, there's that whole thing of, you know, you don't want to intern forever and eventually you're going to want to get some money. And so when somebody offers you a job and it's not even whole thing of, you know, you don't want to intern forever and eventually you're going to want to get some money. And so when somebody offers you a job and it's not even a lot of money you're going to take because you're just so thrilled to have a job. So, you know what, I'm not knocking... And you don't have to go to Thunder Bay or whatever. Yeah, and I'm not knocking the people who are taking the jobs, the kids or the younger people. Kids, you know what, you know you're old.

When you talk about people in their 20s, that's kids. You know, the kids want a job. It's kids today. That's funny. I have a couple more questions from the blog really quickly. I know I'm up against the time here, but I'm going to sneak these in anyways. Okay, so somebody says, if you could ask May about her voice work on the Big Bop commercial in her early days at CFNY,

somebody asks, I wonder if she could still do it today. So do we know, what are we referencing here? Because I couldn't remember. I, you know what? I don't remember exactly what it was, but I have a funny feeling it had something to do with sounding sexy, which is always something very funny for me to do.

Because I always thought that was, I remember when Marsden was hiring me, or no, not hiring me, but when he was doing the interview with me. Yes. And he wanted an overnight person. And so he goes, I'm, you know, and I thought, uh-oh, overnight chick. you know, that has connotations all over it. Like, do you want someone

who talks like this all night? Cause I can't do that. I'll start laughing. And he said, no. And that's where we had the conversation about just be real. And I was like, phew. I think, um, I think the person is referring to something that I did that had a sexy sound to it, but I don't remember the actual spot. So sorry. No, listen, I mean, I have no clue what we're talking about. So that's okay. I vaguely remember it. You just disappointed somebody on the blog. I'm sorry. What's your most memorable live concert club show from back in the day?

Oh, man, there were a lot of great live shows back in the day. That's the A part. And the B part, is there anything new today that can sort of inspire those memories? One of my favorites was the first Lollapalooza at the C&E Grandstand. I know that's probably cheating because that's a whole big day worth of... The Perry Farrell... Yeah, that was so exciting. Because that was the first Lollapalooza and there hadn't been anything like that.

Was that the one with the chili peppers? Susie and the Banshees were there. Oh gosh. Ice tea. Yeah. Butthole surfers. It's all, it's all just a blur right now,

but it was a great, I remember it being a great day. And I remember being, we had a big truck that was set up on site and they were bringing people in for me to interview. And that was the days of like reel to reel. So I was like quickly interviewing people and then editing, splicing that big tape and sending that back to the station. It was a hoot. It was amazing.

And any shows you've seen, do you get to show as many shows now? Or when was the last time you saw a really good live concert? What was my last concert? Went to Nine Inch Nails this summer with Soundgarden. That was fantastic. And my favorite show last year was pretty, I'd have to say probably the Foo Fighters. Their show, and I'm going to go see them again this summer because they were just so great. It's a hot ticket, yeah.

They're a great lot. It was just one of the most fun shows I've been to. Florence the Machine was a great show that I saw not too long back. And... You know what? You're going to laugh at me, but... I won't laugh.

You can laugh. It's okay. But I had a really good time. He was a lot of fun. Lionel Richie. I wouldn't laugh at that. Yeah, you would. Maybe a little bit when we stop recording. When I walk out of the room, he'll laugh at me.

Was he dancing on the ceiling? Is that what he was doing? He was doing all that stuff. You know what? It's fun to see someone of that consummate professional, that school. What venue is this? It was the Molson Amphitheater, too. It's one of my favorite venues.

I love going down to open air concerts like that. Although, I'm not really a big fan anymore of like the mud pit kind of experience. Oh, like the old, now it'd be Downsview Park or I guess they do it.

No, I don't do that anymore. There's anything that revolves around porta-potties, not into it. Sorry, done with that. That's funny. Oh, and one more question here,

which is, okay, the same person who didn't like the fact you were jarring him with the genre changes, maybe we should stop reading his questions. No, he's got one more.

I'm just kidding. He wants to know why you'll play like old Spoons, let's say, but if the Spoons have a new album, you ignore it. Because our format is 70s, 80s, 90s. That's the station format. See, that's actually, I should have thought of that before I read the question. So I think he's maybe concerned about other stations, maybe. But you know what?

It's a valid point because who's playing that stuff now? We've had that conversation. If the Spoons have a new album, and let's say it's a good album, let's say. Yep. Who would play it? No, they're all going back to romantic traffic. Springsteen, Spoons, all these people have put out new material that's fantastic and no one is playing that.

So that is a format for another station because, and I agree that I wish there was something like that because there's an awful lot of mature artists that aren't getting any acknowledgement. You know, there is an awful lot for new music for the younger crowd, but for the more mature crowd and the mature artists, they're not being supported.

They're really not. It's heartbreaking to see that because like I said, there's so many great... Tom Petty put out a fantastic album this year. Who played it? That's true. And he had to pay Gomeshi and the gang to come interview him for Q to promote that thing. And there was a whole scandal because apparently... I think I've heard a little bit about that. But yeah,

the whole thing is that with us, and I understand your question, we are not a new music station. Of course, you're right. We're totally a 70s, 80s, 90s music station. I got a question now. Sometimes we do dip a little bit, by the way, into the 60s and sometimes into the 2000s. Do you just dip into the 60s? We dip into the 60s.

Like The Who or something, right? Yeah, The Beatles and stuff like that too. The Stones from the 60s. I didn't know. We'll go there once in a while. How is it possible you have a daughter this age? Like the Who or something, right? Yeah, the Beatles and stuff like that. The Stones from the 60s. We'll go there once in a while. How is it possible you have a daughter this age? Because I'm old. And no, I'm not going to tell you how old I am.

But yeah, she's 25 now. And CFNY listeners will remember that. I have people who will phone me and say, I remember when you were pregnant and I remember Lauren and stuff. And they'll remember I've had a couple of people who remember phone me and say, I remember when you were pregnant and I remember Lauren and stuff. And they'll remember, I've had a couple of people who remember her birthday. And I'm like, wow, like we are so connected to people. That's awesome. That's fantastic. Yeah. And how do we beef up your Twitter so that you actually have a picture? Because you know, your Twitter's got the default, what is it? The Twitter egg or whatever? Lauren's laughing at me. I don't really. First of all, at first I didn't think it was you. This is a savvy mic here,

digital marketing mic. This can't be the May Potts. There's no picture. Then I drilled in a bit and said, you know, this is actually her. And I said,

oh, this actually is our May Potts. I never use Twitter. I really got to smarten up on that. I'm on Instagram and Facebook and then I'm done.

See, with the Twitter, it's either the shit I get off the pot. You either put a picture on there and a proper bio and a link to this is me

or delete it. I have so been told. Can you help your mom out with the Twitter? I don't engage in it. Like it's not even like I'm following other people. Like I just don't,

I don't know why of all the things and I've tried a lot of different and I love Instagram and I love stuff, but Twitter doesn't engage me. See, you know who loves Twitter? Erin Davis loves the Twitter and Toronto Mike loves the Twitter yeah I just you know what that's not enough to sell you on it though no because Twitter is an

opportunity for you to put a lot of stuff out there I feel like I'm putting stuff out there five hours a day enough of me enough of Maypots there's never enough maypots okay if i could steal you for another hour i would i've got lots more questions you'll have to come back at some point i will i'd love to this has been really nice toronto mike thank you for toronto mike listen thank you for visiting i tried to put a heater behind you because i was worried it was too cold down here because you have the heater behind you are you freezing over you freezing over there? No, no. Okay, good. And I'm a t-shirt guy. I don't actually get cold. Okay.

And that brings us to the end of our 105th show. You can follow me on Twitter at Toronto Mike. And May, even though... I'll work on it. She's going to work on it. I swear I will. And I'll spell this because her name doesn't sound like it's spelled. And I'll spell this because her name doesn't sound like it's spelled, but it's at Maypots, which is M-A-I-E-P-A-U-T-S.

See you all next week. Cheers. We'll see you next time. I love Rosie and Gray. Yeah, the wind is cold, but the snow wants me today.