Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Marci Ien: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1634

Episode Date: February 19, 2025

In this 1634th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with the Member of Parliament for Toronto Centre Marci Ien about the Liberal Party of Canada's leadership race, threats from Trump, Canada vs. USA, her role as Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Youth, Circle Square, Canada AM and Maestro Fresh-Wes. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail]

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Aynes, sponsored by Fusion Corp. Construction Management Inc. and Ridley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today, returning to Toronto Mike is the Honourable Marcy Ian. Nice to meet you, Marcy. It's so good to see you in person because we were virtual last time, right? In 22? So this was the great conversation. Last night I was telling my wife that I had never met Marcy Ian. And I feel like Marcy Ian is a friend. Like, are we friendly? We're buds.

We're buds. We've never met. And then my wife said, well, she's been on the program. Like you talked for over an hour one on one. And I said, well, that was like via zoom. Yeah. And then she said I had that's that counts as a meeting. So I need an MP to make the ruling here. Did I meet you? No disrespect to your wife, but it's not the same.

Meeting virtually is not the same as in person. So we agree on that. We agree. What else do we agree on? Let's find out here. How is the pro-rogue treating you? It's been busy, Mike. I sometimes think how did I get all the work done, all the Ottawa work done, the committee work done, and everything else, and do everything that I'm doing now. It's meant spending a lot more time in my constituency of Toronto Centre, but the travel still continues, the ministerial work across the country. So it's been quite a busy time. I can't believe that we're heavily into February now. You know what it's like? It's like when you have a schedule, your daily schedule is just meeting after meeting after meeting.

You're like, well, when do I get my work done? And if I'm in all these meetings. So now you get a chance to get some work done because they've canceled the meetings, they've canceled, they've canceled some of the meetings. Some of the meetings take place virtually. So those still happen, but it's meant a lot more time in community. And that's been great. Well, this is great that you're here in the basement.

Uh, many, you know what? Thank you. It's very cool. Many moons ago, I was producing Ralph Ben-Murgy's podcast. Oh my gosh. I didn't know you produced Ralph. Yeah, it's called Not That Kind of Rabbi. And the guest was Kathleen Wynne, who was still an active politician at the time.

And Ralph said to me, Mike, I can't ask our premier to visit your basement. He said, I refuse to have your... As if Kathleen Wynn was too good. Like, this would be slumming it. And I bet Kathleen loved it. So then, anyways, we ended up doing it at a storefront studio at Queensway in Islington. But then I did have Kathleen Wynn on my show.

And of course, I'm doing it down here. And she said she would have had no problem. Absolutely not. And she said she loved it. So I'm glad to hear you're course I'm doing it down here and she said she would have had no problem. Absolutely. And she said she loved it. So I'm glad to hear you're okay. Slumming it down here at Toronto Mike's basement. It's great down here. It's cozy.

It's cozy. That's what a real estate agent would put in the listing. And there's lots to look at. I'm just looking at all the things. You can shout out sponsors as you wish. But here, let me tell the listenership that even though we didn't meet, we had a one-on-one. And I remember you had somebody on the Zoom, and I think I hinted that we didn't need

that person on the Zoom, and you politely asked the person to leave. So it was a one-on-one Zoom. It just feels weird. I don't mind there being another person in the room, but it's weird when there's somebody on the Zoom. Yeah, yeah. Because see, because it's different.

It's different in person than it is virtually. And then I was like, are they like, are they what are they there for? Like this is not going to monitor, just to monitor, to make sure I don't rough you up or whatever. But let me tell the listenership if they want the initial visit where we do like sort of we focus more on your media career at the time. But it was episode one thousand and twenty two. And here's the description I wrote at the time, but it was episode 1022. And here's the description I wrote at the time. In this 1022nd episode of Toronto Mike, Mike is joined by the Honorable Marcy Ian. I'm stopping for a moment. How does it feel

that now the word honorable gets appended to your name when people introduce you? Like, how does that make you feel? I still look around and think that they're talking to somebody else. I just, it's, it's never felt right. But you feel almost like, no, just call me Marcy. Like I say that I actually say that Marcy is good. I'm fine with Marcy. Okay.

Cause I might have to switch it up, but you can switch it up. No one's ever introduced me and said, here's the honorable trunk mic because I don't have such a title, but you have honorable as an MP. You get that title. When you, if you're no longer an MP? We get Honorable as a Minister. As a Minister? Yes. What do you call if you're just an MP and you're not a Minister? Your Member of Parliament. So MP it would be MP Marcy Ian. You know what? The Honorable comes in with a ministerial portfolio. And if you're leader of your party and if your Prime Minister is right Honorable.

That's right. Okay I'm gonna take notes here. Yes. I'm to pass the quiz. So be the right honorable just in Chuteau. We also talked about, cause you know, Toronto Mike likes to talk to you media people, uh, we talked about your years and this is going to come up and come up in a question in a moment. Okay. So heads up, but your years on circle square. So we'll talk about that in a minute as a reporter at CHCH. Yes. Your move to CTV. Yes. Becoming the first black woman in Canada to co-host a national morning show. Yes. Amazing. Why Canada AM ended. You know, There's so many Canada AM. Lisa LaFlem, my guy, Valerie, Dan, Seamus. You almost all ended up in politics there.

OK. Oh, your work on the social. Yes. Why you left television for politics. And we talked for over an hour. So if everybody wants to go back and hear that stuff, it's episode one thousand and twenty two. But you're back for one reason and one reason only because I need to know you were a former Canada AM host and I need to know what happened at Breakfast Television. Why did Sid Sixero and Meredith Shaw get canned?

I wish I knew. Just this morning, it's interesting you asked that, just this morning I was on Instagram and Meredith had posted for the first time since everything happened and I thought I've got to call her. I need to give her a call. Did you call her? I haven't called her. Let's call her live on the program. But I will. She's a sweetie and she's a friend.

And she was just talking about the notes that she's gotten and the people that have reached out. You know, media is like this, Mike. You just never know what's coming. And I think that's just it, the landscape's changing, and you never know what's gonna happen from day to day. And every day you're there is a good one because you're still there. It's just-

But that's a terrible way to live. It is. Like you're always looking over your shoulder. But this is why, you know, most media people have side hustles. They've got different things going on. You'll notice that, right? You've got people that have full-time jobs in media and they've got podcasts like yours. They've got shows. They've got brand things.

You need a Plan B. You need to have a Plan B. Everybody's working with a Plan B right now. How much notice did you get when Canada AM was shuttered? Like how much? A couple of weeks. Okay, so I don't think they got that long actually I don't think I get the idea They might have been tapped on the shoulder on like a Friday after the show or something and that's hard and like that's it But it's so and again. I actually don't even watch breakfast television You know even though I get I do daily correspond with Anne Romer. Do you I've been chatting with her just this past week Yeah, she's great. Say hi to her for me. Oh, my God, I will. She's at the region, which is a station in York region.

She's still there. But I do think it's sudden for a listener if you have these two, you know, if Sid Sixero and Meredith Shaw and Meredith also slummed it in the basement. Sid somehow didn't want to slum it. I don't know. I'm working on that. But it is very sudden for the listenership to have it this routine pulled from them.

I think that's why, you know, when AM ended, when AM ended, so many people reached out. People still reach out. They do. They still reach out. They still talk to me when I'm on the subway about AM and it ending and how they watched for years. So I can only imagine, and this is what Meredith was talking about, just the outpouring and people asking why and are you okay?

And what happens now? And you don't know what's next, right now and you don't know what's next right and you don't know what's next the Replacement show for Canada and was far more Entertainment focus like it's more it was I feel like the Canada AM was more of it had more serious news Components to it and you know, I won't mince words. It was also younger Right. And so that's the real talk you write. That's the real right. It was it was also younger So whether it was trying to reach a younger demographic or whatever it was, it was definitely that Okay, speaking of younger. Yes, Jose heard you were coming on now again. We are gonna get serious. I have a

Minister member of Parliament. There's a lot I've been thinking about I'm donning my Canada jersey for this recording here. Okay. Jose though, says we need a circle square reunion. So just a little taste. I know we're just gonna touch on this cause we did it all in the first episode, but a little taste here. Do not necessarily reflect those of the global television network. Happy people come together, let your light shine.

Sharing love with one another, let your light shine Let no difference grow between you, let your light shine Let his spirit grow between you, let your light shine What are you thinking about Marcy? Gosh, 45 years ago is what I'm thinking, 45 years ago and the early mornings we taped at six o'clock in the morning on Saturdays and so for the bulk of my childhood it was getting up, ironically AM would come later in life, but it was getting up early and that was family. You know it was being with my family outside of family and spending more time often with them than my own. Those were good times.

How many years were you on Circle Square? Six, from 10 to 16. And I feel like maybe in succinctly explain to the youngins out there, what the hell are we talking about? I know they're like, what? Like Circle Square, what is he doing here? What show is that? It was based on kids that were best friends and we had kind of a clubhouse and every week one of the kids would

have a problem so it was either you know a bully at school or somebody that wasn't a friend or lying or cheating and there would be this friendly janitor at the school they all went to his name was Dirk and they would tell Dirk their problem so and so was bullying me or so and so was pressuring me to do something I don't want to do. I still remember smoking as a 12 year old on that show because it was about peer pressure and having to learn how to hold a cigarette. That's beside the point. But that's how you got addicted.

That's how I got addicted. This is where it started. But, but it was, it was sharing with Dirk the issue that that kid had and then that issue would turn into a story and it would be kind of an acting piece that all of us would do and then there would be kind of a moral at the end of the story. The kid will feel better and we also cut a record or two. We used to sing as well. I need a copy of these albums. Oh my god. Marcy Ian's voice on these albums. Yes. Okay. We need. Yes. I got more music for you later here. I know we got a full hour

together and I got a lot of ground I want to cover, but I want to say if you have that on vinyl, I have it on vinyl. I've got, I just was in my basement the other day and there, there are two albums. I looked at my younger self. Oh my gosh. Mars any chance. Two things I'm thinking of here before we move on from Circle Square, you know, you're only here to talk Circle Square You know that right? Oh, you're obsessed You haven't heard this program. I have many obsessions, but they're Circle Square one of the many but one question I have any chance for Jose that we have some kind of a Circle Square reunion, you know, what's interesting? while at CTV, Stacey Spalding, who is one of my castmates,

we worked together in the same building because she became a director. So she was directing at BNN. She was filling in on other shows as well. So we actually met up. She stayed in the business. Another one of the cast members became a writer. He lives in New York, Adam Sternberg.

I believe he is with the New York Times, I believe. Excellent writer. Novelist as well. So there's some people that I've seen over the years and some I haven't. It would be great to have a reunion though. Danny Jane Tollevson. Danny Jane lives in Mississauga. I think she has her own business as well. Okay, look at these successful Circle Square graduates. I know. And one might end up prime minister at some point. Oh gosh. So you never know.

Listen to you. We'll call it now. Okay, the other quick thing is, I'm seeing all these nostalgic, particularly for Gen X and maybe because I am Gen X. So it's like, I'm like, that's my sweet spot. But many, lately, many documentary series or documentaries seem to be coming out that kind of focus on some piece of Gen X nostalgia. Circle

Square needs a documentary. You think? Yeah. I mean for an audience of me plus maybe five people, but I think that's enough. Let's get this done here, okay? So I'll just see, I'll just plant that seed. Andrew Lewis, listener of the program, heard that Mercy Ian was returning. Finally, I would get to meet her and take a photo by Toronto Tree. Don't leave too quickly. We got to do that photo. What is Toronto Tree? So Toronto Tree, Dave Thomas gave it that name from SCTV, Dave Thomas.

Yes. It's the tree in front of my house where every guest who visits in person, I take a selfie with me and the guest after the recording. And that's the picture that follows the episode forever. And very important mercy, so we do that. What an honor. It is an honor, because it's better than a freaking screen cap of a Zoom.

Like I feel so soulless when I'm taking the screen cap of the Zoom and I'm like, where's my Toronto tree photo? What kind of tree is Toronto tree? What do they call those things? The crab apple or whatever. Oh, is it? Like it bears fruit? Well, yeah.

I wouldn't eat that fruit, but- But it bears something. And it sometimes bears that fruit like really early. You're like, oh, it's August and I'm breaking. So it's kind of sick, I think. So a lot of snow on the ground, right? You're navigating the city. You live in Toronto.

I was thinking on my- I was walking my kid to school and I'm climbing these snow banks just across the street. I'm like major intersections to be honest. Yeah. And I'm thinking, does anybody mess up and think that they don't know who to call? So they're like, I know that's a city counselor that I should call or a 311 really, but city counselor, if I'm going to escalate this

to an elected official, that's my good response. Well, snow removal, it's municipal. But does anyone mess up and call your office? Absolutely. So does the MP get. Well, snow removal. It's municipal. But does anyone mess up and call your office? Absolutely. So does the MP get calls about like snow removal? Absolutely. Snow removal, things in apartment buildings, all sorts of things. Because people don't quite garbage, but people just don't quite understand.

And it's I understand why. Yeah, we only like a grid or something. Hang on our fridge, whatever the municipal government does. This is what the provincial government does. Here's OK. So let me look at this. Who's responsible for bike lanes? Municipal. Yes.

Yeah. Can you tell Doug Ford that? Just next time you see him. Just let him know because I feel that's municipal for sure. It is absolutely municipal. You know, Ed Keenan and I were talking about that the other day. Is there anything more municipal than bike lanes? But okay, that's not what you're here for because you're federal.

But Andrew Lewis says, and again, we're going to get serious in a moment. But Andrew Lewis says, please ask her if she remembers after I broke my ankle in humiliating fashion on the opening kickoff of the 1987 rugby off so semi finals, sitting with me on the agent court, collegiate sidelines for the rest of the game. Do you have any memory of a guy who couldn't play? He broke his ankle on the opening kickoff. This is rugby off the championship 1987. You're sitting with him. He went on to tell me that you were lovely and he has great memories of this.

Do you have any memory of this? My gosh, I don't. But hi, Andrew. You're there goes my age in court. Those were the days I want to ask Andrew. And maybe you can ask whether he played with Winston Littleton because I think it was that team. Well, Andrew and I connected on Blue Sky.

Okay. So you're your social media person. Any, what about Marcy on Blue Sky? You want to come on that? Okay. It's open. Yeah. It's actually been on my to do list. So here it comes. It's not like it takes a long time. Here it comes. It's not like it takes a long time. Here it comes. This guy's coming only because a lot of us reasonable people have left the app formerly known as Twitter now known as X because it's full of Nazis. Like what if we all it's a little toxic. I hate it. Like I go into because I promote things like this

and I got to get out of there quickly because it's so just me. Taxing on the people. Yeah, it's just terrible. Yep. But blue sky, there's conversations happening and we don't all agree. And there's just, it's, it's a open dialogue and it feels like, oh, this is what Twitter used to be like before the Nazi showed up. What if Marcy Ian had an official account on blue sky? I don't see anything wrong with that. Okay.

Another sale. You heard it from an end social media director. Yeah. I'm wearing my Canada Jersey. Yes, are. It looks lovely on you. Yeah this is from the 2015 junior champions. This is their jersey and will Marcy Ian be watching on Thursday? Tomorrow night. Yeah absolutely I'll be watching and cheering our boys on. So let me ask you a question as Marcy and not as a member of parliament. How do you personally feel about Canadians booing the Star Spangled

Band? I don't like it. I don't like it. I was at some Raptors game just the other night and that was happening and I didn't feel good. I don't think any anthem should be booed.

I understand the sentiment. Even and again this is a good segue because now we're gonna get a bit serious Yeah, even though and I'm not telling you anything you don't know but even though the president of the United States of America is Openly threatening our sovereignty that is one man and one man is not an anthem and I understand the sentiment But I don't think that the anthem should be but I didn't feel good about it. It felt, it felt unnerving. How, okay, let's talk about, you know, the, because you're a member of the Liberal Party of Canada and you guys have a minority government still. We'll talk about what's going on everywhere. But how do you feel about your party's response to this? The threaded tariffs and I mean here we are talking to timestamp it

It's like February 19 and these deadlines are all in early March. I think but maybe speak to this I feel like Canadians need to hear from you right now. I Personally carry this I've been carrying it since he started this rhetoric. I don't feel comfortable I I don't find any of it funny even a little bit. And I got a good sense of humor. It's not funny. No, it's not funny. And it shouldn't be taken that way. And anybody who thinks it is doesn't understand the landscape. This is serious business, the prime minister has said as such. And you'll see this has been a Canada first approach. You see the Prime Minister, you see cabinet

ministers, you see MPs, you see premiers, you see MPPs, municipal politicians coming together. It's quite the moment, isn't it? When we all come together as Canadians and say, hey, we're sovereign. We're not looking to be a 51st state. We love our country and we will stand. And the prime minister of the government has been working really, really hard meeting with allied countries as well and, you know, responding and I think a more than appropriate way. So we had that, you know, pretty great speech by Justin Trudeau. It was excellent. I think it was pitch perfect. Yeah. And we had that, you know, pretty great speech by Justin Trudeau. It was excellent.

I think it was pitch perfect. Yeah. A mild stumble out of the gates. And I'm like, maybe he's nervous or whatever. But he writes the ship. It was really pitch perfect, I think. And then Trump moves the deadline at some point. And, you know, so should these tariffs actually get executed?

And there's another just to this very complicated, I find, because there's one that's like, I don't know if it's aluminum or steel, but there's a 25% on something with the automotive industry. But then there's the original 25% on everything. But it seems to change every day, doesn't it? Right. But should he sign on the dotted line and with his executive orders, will the response that, you you know Trudeau promised us in that speech, they will come into effect when that happens? Yes and a fulsome response. Yeah the Prime Minister didn't mince any words and Canadians should know that their government will respond directly and

will respond in a way that meets the seriousness of those tariffs. And I know I was listening to you very closely there and you were talking about like Canadians don't want this and I almost feel like that language is almost too gentle like that's almost too soft that language it's it's a non-negotiate non-starter there is no this is not anything that Canada would ever agree we are sovereign nation, an independent nation and being a part of America in any fashion, 50 for state or Puerto Rico style colony any such stat, any such manner is completely a non-starter. I don't even like it when I

see the agenda talking about what it would look like. Yeah, no. I get my stomach turns. It's like, no, we're not talking about what it would look like. We're not going to talk about pros and cons. We're not going to talk about this at all because this is not happening. If you want us, get your military going because that's what it would take to make Canada part of the United States. I hear you.

It's not something to even look at or in hypotheticals. It's just this isn't happening. And here's why. The thing that I observe and that actually makes me feel a little bit better is they say, you know, in tough times, that's when you see the best in people. People come together and we're seeing that now. Because the one thing we can agree on as Canadians

is that we love our country. And it's bringing us together in ways I haven't seen in a long time. In one of those ways is, because I disagree if you're on the booing of the national anthem where, uh, I'm pro-boo. Are you pro-boo? Oh my gosh. I feel like this is a non-violent... I feel like Americans need to hear it. I'm simply like, oh, just don't stand for their anthem. And I'm like, Americans, I don't think your average American tuning into the hockey game

understands any of what's going on. I think they think this is kind of funny and oh, they have a leader who says stuff and it's not going to happen or whatever. Meanwhile, none of us are laughing. No, we're not. We're not laughing. And I feel like they need to hear it. Like they need to know that we're actually pissed about this. We're actually angry.

I feel like it's something we could do. When you're booing the anthem though, you're booing the people, right? Not just the president. And I like to believe that it's alsoing the people, right? Not just the president. And I like to believe that it's also about the people, right? Because you're saying a lot of people don't understand. Some of them do, right? And so you're booing the people. And people will take that to heart. People will think that you're insulting them and it's disrespect, which I think it is. It is. It is, right? But why

boo the people? Because the president, the president, true, true. But the majority of voting people back in November voted for Donald Trump to be their president. And I feel like they're responsible for this. Because it's one thing if you and I, you know, I have American friends, I don't want to see anything happen to them. But they voted for this kind of chaos in this turmoil And then it's sort of like do you think they understood that he would be this quick out of the gate and do the things Well, he said I feel like I told us who he was he did I don't know that people believed him. I am people are in shock going. I can't believe he's done this

I can't believe you know, di look at that people getting deported. Look at that and people are seem to be in shock I'm not sure they know what they voted in if you're a trans person in the United States today can you get refugee status in Canada if you're an American trans person refugee status it's interesting it's interesting because the US was never deemed a non-safe country right and we give refugee status to people that come from countries where their lives are threatened. This is a new one, Mike. Well, this is a new one.

I'm telling you, all the rules we've lived with are, you know, we're similar vintage here. Yes, we are. This is uncharted territory. It is uncharted. I've been telling my kid, I got four kids and a couple of them are kids. How old are your kids? 23, 20, almost 11.

He's turning 11 soon. Wow. And almost 9. She turns 9 in March, actually. Wow. She's very excited, actually. And so the almost 9-year-old, the 8-year-old is who I was walking to school and I'm climbing these mountains of snow.

And then we're a couple of days out from the snowstorm and I'm thinking, I wonder if an MP is getting calls about the snow. Yeah. wonder if an MP is getting calls about the snow. Yeah, yeah MPs are getting calls about the snow and we've heard in Toronto it could be three weeks which is yeah. Okay so again, I feel like I need several hours with you so I'm gonna cook of gas here but I'm wondering, well John C wrote the question but I was gonna ask it anyways John C. Hello John C. Who are you Marcy supporting in the liberal leadership campaign and why? I am supporting Mark Carney in the liberal leadership campaign and it's I Canadians are looking for a change right and he

represents that change but not only does he represent it I had good conversations with him and believe me me, you know, a former journalist, I was a journalist, we know how to ask questions, we know how to grow when we need to. But he just had the right responses, you know, to the questions that I had. And so I was pleased to endorse him. And I also love what's happening right now. People seem to be engaged again in politics. Had 400,000 liberals sign up, right? And we've got the debate coming up. That'll be interesting so you can see all of the candidates.

The candidates obviously all talented, but I really liked what Mark had to offer. I listened to constituents a lot too and what they were telling me and what they wanted to see. And every last one of them was we need change. We need change and we need someone creative and we need someone that's got the economic chops. Let me speak for Mike just regular guy in his basement in South Etobicoke where the

way I because I do follow this pretty closely and I have lots of conversations of interesting people like you. And I think I felt before the 51st state rhetoric, yes, by the President of the United States of America, it felt to me, and I had already accepted it, like you go through stages of grief or whatever, it felt like a foregone conclusion that the Conservative Party of Canada was going to win a majority government next time we go to the polls. Do you still feel that way? No, that's why I gave it the caveat before the 51st state

rhetoric. So the way I feel again, just a average citizen here, that since the 51st state rhetoric and the threats by Donald J. Trump, I feel that Canadians are fearful of making Pierre Pauli even the next Prime Minister of Canada. And I think that, not that you would ever do this because it's the material reason, but you could almost send a thank-you card to Donald Trump that he completely united this country and I believe now with Mark Carney as the leader that there's an absolutely, dramatically less chance of Pierre Pauli off winning a majority government when we do finally go to the

polls. In fact, I don't know how it'll fall out, but I could see Mark Carney winning another minority government. I think that this is a complete dramatic reversal since the 51st state rhetoric. I agree, I agree. And people are coming together and they're also looking at who would best represent,

who's the person that could take on President Trump, that could handle the threats that he poses? And by and large, you know, the polls all say, that's Mark. So how does the mood feel like in your office in the Liberal Party of Canada? The mood since this again, polls, I, if I believe polls, I told my at the time I can't remember how old she was but my oldest daughter I remember telling her at like 7 30 p.m. On election night in 2016. I remember telling her like this is a big night I'm like a woman is gonna be president of states America Like I had that chat with her because of the polls Remember that oh my gosh

I still remember I was watching all the channels but coming upon CNN and John at the board and you know Hillary had it in the bag and I think I've 38 or whatever had it at like 95% or something. Yeah, everybody was wrong Yeah, everybody was why I don't even I'm saying these that the polls have reversed even though I personally the only poll that matters Is in the voting booth. Yeah, it's you know what, you're absolutely right about that, but it's what people are talking about and what they're saying. I don't know about all the polls, but when you know you're in the streets, if you're on the subway, if you're you know at a school waiting to pick up your kid and having a conversation, what are people saying? And there is a certain zeitgeist, there's a certain feeling right now that wasn't there some weeks ago.

So let's talk about you for a moment. So you are a member of parliament for Toronto Centre. Yes. And you again. So if I remember correctly, there's a by-election in 2020. You're right. There was a by-election. Bill Morneau had resigned.

And so there was a by-election in 2020. We won that by-election. And then soon after, we had the election in 2021. Summer of 2021. So, I mean, I think I got this right, but I remember the, the leader of the Green Party. Anna May Paul. Yes.

Yes. She, she was in the riding and you won that in 2020. And then in 2021, I remember your win was significantly larger. Yes. Yes. So in 2020, uh, there was a lot going on, especially, you know, with Bill and remember it was also the pandemic. Right.

So is anyone coming out to vote? So, yes, we won, but it wasn't by a large margin and we had a lot of work to do. And we, I'd like to say we did that work. We were in community. We listened to what people needed and wanted. And then came the election some months later in 21 and yet larger margin and enemy had run again in that election as well.

Right, right. So how are you feeling when we do if at some point there obviously no election has been called? Actually, maybe this is my first question. So let's say, let's say, and I don't know who will win the liberal leadership race, but Mark Carney seems to be the favorite Let's say he wins. Okay

And by the way, I will say again as citizen Mike that I think the best chance to beat peer poly of in the upcoming election Whenever it's called is mark Carney like I feel like if you just look who is the leader of liberal party with the best chance again Just speaking for myself the best chance to beat peer poly of in this election I think that's mark Carney. That's how I feel. If we look at the polls, that's what they say. So if we believe the polls might. So let's say once and what day is this? What, what day in March do we have the new leader of the liberal party?

The ninth night. Okay. Are you hoping the next prime minister of this country calls an election immediately? Like, would you like to see an election called right away? That would be up to the leader. I mean listen what I will tell you is that I'm ready uh I'm ready either way whether it's the next day whether it's two weeks two months we're ready. Okay well that's exactly what I was going to ask is uh are you ready for the election the next election whenever it is in 2025? We are ready. Yeah, we're ready. We've been getting ready for some, you have to do that. If you're a minority government, you always have to be ready because you just don't know.

It's been so contentious. It had been so contentious in the house that, you know, the thought had to be the government could fall at any time. So you have to be ready. You've got to be on your toes. And we are. Got to mind your toes. Okay. I'm going to ask you about being minister for women and gender equality in youth

But I do have a question from Chris Drew. Oh my gosh, Chris. Hi, Chris. You know Chris Yeah, he comes out to tmlx events And he he loves your show by the way. Yeah. Well, yeah, he said you're that's the listener experiences So we have these tmlx events which are toronto mic listener experiences And I will take this opportunity to tell everybody including you Marcy That the next TMLX event which will be TMLX 18 is scheduled for June 26 2025 and it's gonna be at Great Lakes Brewery here in southern Etobicoke And if you just drop by between 6 and 9 p.m

Not only is your first beer on the house delicious fresh craft beer from GLB by the way Marcy I've got some fresh craft beer for you courtesy of Great Lakes Brewery. Thank you. James Maloney big fan of GLB. Oh my gosh. James is the best. I was at the flag ceremony and I was chatting him up and we were actually talking about how much we love Great Lakes beer. So he's he's amazing. He's a good guy. He's a really good guy. Great MP. Great MP.

So he's my MP here. So I, the good news is at this TM Alex event on June 26th, Palma pasta there in Mississauga and Oakville, their family run a shop just like GLB. I love the promotion of all these Canadian businesses. Yeah. Super hyper local, Canadian owned and operated

and Palma pasta will feed us all like they're gonna you come hungry you will leave full of delicious Palma pasta if you come to TMLX again free event I don't know if I mentioned that but I don't charge you any money you just drop by we all hang out we talk you can meet other FOTMs and you get a you know some Italian food delicious Italian food and you get a FOTM friend of Toronto Mike yeah you, you're an FOTM. Okay. Even via zoom. I'll count via zoom. Speaking of hyper local family run operations, Brad Jones owns and operates Ridley Funeral Home here in New Toronto. And he sent over a measuring tape for you Marcy, because you never know if you need to measure something. Oh, thank you. It's so cute. This is great. You didn't know you get that kind of swag. If you come on the agenda, the CBC give you this kind of swag.

I need to know. Okay. Chris Drew. Good guy. Question from a constituent. What's your favorite local small business to have dinner at in Toronto center? And wouldn't it be awesome if we had more passenger train choices between Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal and Quebec City and at higher speeds and reliability with via high frequency rail.

So two things going on there, very different things. Talk about the, like, where would you recommend an independent place in your riding? I would say Familia on Amelia Street in Cabbage Town. It's fabulous. What time should I meet you there? Tanya and Todd run the place and it's great. Speaking of pasta, it's great. And pizza, they do it upright.

I love pizza. Yeah, no, they do it well there and you would love it. And it's cute, it's quaint. Again, familia, it's f apostrophe and then Amelia and it's on Amelia Street it's wonderful you had me at pizza oh yeah good good now what can we get this high-speed Chris Chris I believe Chris there's a press conference that's probably happening right about now and we're going live with the Minister of Transport that's discussing that right now so he might

be pleasantly pleased who is the Minister of Transport? Anita Anand. And who's the Minister for Women and Gender Equality and Youth? Do you see my hand up? That would be me. Please tell us what that entails. Just us normies need to understand exactly what falls in that realm. So with regards to women, everything women. And so that means entrepreneurship, that means gender-based violence, that means inclusivity.

And so my portfolio basically has everything to do with everyone else. It intersects with everyone else's. So that's the women's side of things. Gender equality means just that, but it also includes all genders. So I have the 2s LGBTQ Secretariat under my purview as well and then youth are youth across this country and The age range is 15 to 30. Although I like to dress a little bit younger. So some of our programs start at 12

and how we do it as a country when it comes to, you know, equality for women and in this country. How are we doing? Well, we're doing well. We're doing well. We've got You're doing better than I am at asking that question. Canada Am is not calling me. Bring in your bag. We're doing we're doing well well Mike. I mean we could always do better but as a government we have got gender equity when it comes to wages and when it comes to the child care program across this country some interesting numbers came

out. We've now got I want to say is, is it 84, 84, 87% of women working and some of them reentering the workforce because of childcare. $10 day childcare is making a big difference. And experts are actually linking that program to more women getting into the workplace because they can afford to. Uh, so that is amazing. Um, there's also intersections here. So dealing with indigenous women, racialized women, women with disabilities, and then people in the two s LGBTQ community and creating programs that uplift those communities and help those communities as well. Young people, you know, the unemployment rate is definitely not where we want it to be. But we've got some really good programs that set kids up with the right skills

that they need, mentorship opportunities they need, volunteer opportunities within community to build confidence and get them out started in a, in a right place, in a grounded place. So we're doing well, lots more to do, but we're getting there. You got a spot in the cabinet there relatively quickly. You think so? Because 2020 is your first time as an elected official. 2020, right? Yes.

You were in media. We talked. You were busy on Circle Square as a 10-year-old or whatever. But yeah, I feel so what is the plan plan? Like what is your personal political plan? Is it you're going to kick ass as an MP for your riding and at some point possibly when when Mark Carney steps down and do you would you take a run at the leadership of your Liberal Party? Listen, you asked you asked you asked that question like I had a plan at the get go and I didn't I didn't even had a moment. I't even have a moment I didn't even plan to be here I didn't plan to be in politics right so you know things happen I embrace them I live I learn and there's never been a plan with regards to this career there was with the last one there there hasn't been

with this but it's been amazing what was the plan of the last one to get the Lisa LaFlamme job? No, to get the Canada AM job. That's the job. That was the job I wanted. That was the job that I loved. Are you kidding? There was nothing better to be able to chat with people and do, yes, the hard news, but also do really fun stuff too. Meet so many amazing people. That was the job. That was the pinnacle.

And social was a cherry on top. What time did you have to wake up for Canada? So there were different years. So the years that I was solely the news anchor, I got up at two 30 in the morning because I had to be in the studio earlier than everybody else because I was preparing a newscast and that meant checking in with various bureaus around the world. And so I had to check in with the bureau chiefs, see what was happening around the world and then write that newscast that had to be ready for AM.

So I was there earlier than most. And then when I was co-host, it was probably a half hour later, but a half hour later, sorry, what time? What time are we talking about? Three o'clock in the morning. Three o'clock in morning. Yeah. So could you watch, but could you watch Canada versus USA at 8 PM on a Thursday?

See, this is where I didn't sleep for 15 years, Mike, because I did. And it sounds horrible, but I did anyway. I did. I tried to do all the things because I had a family, I had friends that I had to see and they didn't have to be at work for 4 AM. So I did anyway. I did. I tried to do all the things because I had a family, I had friends that I had to see and they didn't have to be at work for 4 a.m. So I stayed up. I was watching all sorts of sports and going to live sports and doing all the things because I didn't want to give up that aspect of my life.

But it meant very little sleep, which wasn't great, but it meant very, very little sleep. Well, Eric wrote in another listener who's excited to hear your in-person debut, Eric with a K, and he writes, he wanted to know, like, what do you miss about getting up at the crack of dawn for AMTV? So now that you've had, you know, five years almost in political life, do you miss your old media life? I do sometimes.

I do. And that is the honest answer. I do miss chatting with people like this I still chat but it's by every week if you want more you know more careful I've been knocking at your door going I just need to talk to you Mike I just need to sit down I'm pretty easy going actually if I saw it doesn't knock at the door and Marcy's at the door I'm like come on in that's great that's good to know open invitation invitation. But I do. I do miss it sometimes.

I miss that kind of conversation and the curiosity and listening and understanding people's lives. I love that. Very interesting career progression. You know, it's kind of unique that, you know, we talk about Seamus and there's others out there who had like the political media careers and then segued over into political careers. Peter Kent. Yes. Who has been in this slummed it in the basement Ralph. Ralph if you're listening. So if you're throwing around names like like Peter Kent and Kathleen Wynne this is obviously not a slumming it Marcy Ian. Yeah whatever but this is not a slumming it in the basement. This is a cute little place. It's not just Charlie Angus who drops by here

Okay, did I mention Palmer is giving you a lasagna like it's in my freezer right now I mean like it's a frozen lasagna. I now have dinner for my kids tonight It's more it's gonna be dinner tonight and leftovers for tomorrow. How many kids you got? That's awesome I have two and how 20 and one's 13. Okay, so we both have 20 year old Yeah, and my 20 year old usually doesn't live with me is usually on campus, but it's reading week. So she's one year old doesn't live with me. She's on campus. There you go. So she's home for reading week is yours on reading week. No, I don't think so. I mean, she's not here. I feel like maybe she's not coming back. I don't know. I actually don't know. She's at McGill. Okay. What university is your TMU? She's in TMU. Yeah. Okay. We call this the Toronto Mike universe. So you go. It's very confusing. Okay. So you do miss the media life and I do sometimes. Yeah. I can imagine that how an Eric had a follow-up question, which I'm interested in is we talked

about like the cesspool that is X now and a lot of that is because you assume the persona of your owner and I don't know. Do you drive a Tesla? No, I do not and never have. OK, but let's say you had bought a Tesla. That would never have happened before. That never would have happened. All right. No Tesla here. I was seeing the video of Sheryl Crow giving up her test.

Oh, my gosh. And donating the money to NPR. Yeah. And then I produce a show for Humble and Fred and Humble Howard, he bought a Tesla last year. Like he bought a new Tesla. So what's he doing with it? He's reasoned with himself that Elon Musk didn't make it. People made it or something like he's basically figured out a way where he can enjoy his Tesla. Tesla equals Elon Musk.

I know. Well, that's that's so does X though. Yeah. Like so, so we talked about what it's that's so does X though. Yeah. Like so so we talked about what it's like on X and they've adopted this Elon Musk. My goodness. I have gosh we need more hours for this. But the question specifically is how do you mercy Ian how do you deal with political trolls. Like I can only imagine what it's like for an MP for the Liberal Party. When I'm my kid my 10 year old tells me about the

flag he saw that says, fuck Trudeau. Like this is the age we're living in. Yeah, and you know what, your kids saw that. Imagine, you know, Prime Minister Trudeau's kids, right? Because they see it too. So there's that, but you know, when I was a journalist, I used to make it my business mic to respond to everybody. I just thought, well, if people are taking the time, even if they disagree with me, I

need to respond and they don't have to agree, but at least we can respect each other. Those were the old days. Now I don't respond and it takes every fiber in my being not to, because I want to, but I know that, you know, a lot of this is trolls and all the things, except when they come after my family. And that has happened. And that is when, you know, higher authorities are involved, because my kids never need to be a part of any kind of trolling action. So when it comes to my family, any member of it, and people being disrespectful in that way, that's when I act. Other than that, I'm hardly on X.

I'm with you. I'm hardly on it. But forever that was out of bounds, right? Forever it's been out of bounds, but I just find that people are just taking shots where they need not these days. But I think this is because of this, the the rise of Trump and then of course he was president 2016 as we talked about and now they liked it so much. They're giving them another go Except this time he wins the popular vote. Yeah, like this is a much bigger mandate than it is

It is and people get brave behind their computer screens. Don't know. I think it's been Normalized somehow because of the dirty way they play down there. And we talked about Elon Musk, but people are being doxed. We don't like this guy. I don't know. This guy came at Trump for something legitimate or whatever. And now this is where he lives and this is where his kid works and stuff. Like it's actually horrific.

It's dangerous. And there's no checks and balances left really. And I'm talking about the states right now, but I feel like there are Canadians who absorb and take in a lot of American news and they see this and maybe they're watching a lot of Fox News or whatever, and they sort of now think this is okay now. This is how they do it there, we can do it here. And a lot of this, the whole idea of fuck Trudeau, I blame Trump for that whole, I feel

like when I was growing up, there was no matter what you thought of Brian Mulroney or Jean Chrétien or whatever You'd never had that kind of disrespect for the office and now you do and I think you're you as a politician with kids I feel like it's a dangerous time and it is not like when Peter Kent was in policy. You're absolutely right. It's changed. I Was talking to a couple of colleagues and this is back when, you know, we weren't prorogued and they would, they would tell me about the good old days and how it didn't matter whether you were conservative or NDP, whatever party stripe, you know, question period was question period, but then it was dinner later. You know, it was meeting up, it was meeting up for dinner. It was, you know, sometimes meeting up, you know, during vacation time.

People were friends and are friends and I have friends on either side of the floor, but it is a toxic, toxic environment right now. It never used to be that way. It is 10 times worse. And frankly, this is why, you know, we're having a hard time. And I would think especially with women women recruiting women to run Because they don't women people period but women in particular because it's not entirely not dangerous out there like the compensation Doesn't match the what it does to your life and the risks it entails and how it involves your family as well So why? Why like why are you running again in 2025? Because I have this overwhelming thing about service and wanting to serve.

And for me, Mike, it's full circle. I was born in St. James town. TMU is my alma mater. Toronto Centre is really my life and it feels full circle. It's like this is the place that gave my parents a chance when they emigrated from Trinidad sixty something years ago. is my alma mater. Toronto Centre is really my life and it feels full-circuit. This is the place that gave my parents a chance when they emigrated from Trinidad 60-something years ago and now I get to be there and serve this community. There's something really special about that.

But you alluded to this a moment ago and I totally understand. It's going to be tough to recruit the next Marcy Ian. It is going to be tough when you see what they have to. Like, oh, from now on you have to be a single person with no children and you you don't and even then Right and even then you're not safe, right? Even then you're not safe But and you're but it's true and I never sugarcoat things when people ask me and you know They're thinking about delving into politics I never do but I also tell the stories of the change that can happen

when people who care and who move with kindness, the changes that can happen with regards to policy and how, you know, we need good people to make sure that Canada stays the kind country that it is. At least bring back that respect you spoke about where a member of the Conservative Party of Canada and a member of the Liberal Party of Canada can collaborate for the greater good of this nation. Yes, and work together. I've been really fortunate because of this portfolio.

There aren't a lot of people, Mike, that disagree that women shouldn't be violated when it comes to gender-based. So this is where we come together. My counterparts, my Conservative, N NDP Green counterparts, block counterparts, we're on the same page when it comes to a lot of the things in my file. So that helps me greatly and it leads to more collaborative work. Just checking in on the live stream, a lot of people enjoying the conversation. Hello to Dan J. Hello to J Ho, Moose Grumpy, hello to Mark Weisblot, a lot of good people on

the live stream. That's so nice they've joined. Hello to Mark Weisblot, a lot of good people on the on the live stream. That's so nice they've joined. And most people here, of course, when it's a podcast, which will be five minutes after our photo at the Toronto Tree. I know I promised an hour and I know how I want to close this, but let me give some love to RecycleMyElectronics.ca because Marcy, if you've got a drawer full of old cables or old devices, old electronics, everyone does something like that. Where am I supposed to be taking them? Well, you don't throw it in the garbage because those chemicals end up in our landfill.

But if you go to recyclemyelectronics.ca, put in your postal code, you'll see places near you. You can just drop it off and it'll be properly recycled and keep those chemicals out of our landfill. So thank you to recyclemyelectronicsca, who have stepped up to sponsor this program throughout 2025. So that's great news. Pausing for a round of applause. Okay. Also stepping up, brand new sponsor. I had him in the basement a couple of weeks ago to learn more about him. Shout out to the founder and CEO of Fusion Corp Developments Inc. His name is Nick Ienieses and he has a great new podcast called Building Toronto Skyline. He has a new book called Battle of the Skyscrapers. He talks about the skyscrapers around the world, the big ones, where they're being built.

We have a couple of 300-metre skyscrapers being built right now. I think one at like Young and Queen's Key, where the Toronto Star building is they're gonna put up a big one there but there's one at young and bluer one bluer I think it's called yet is and it's like 300 well anyways we have some but when you hear what they're doing in the Middle East you'll say what a tiny little building you're building there 300 meters but all this interesting info in his new book Battle of the skyscraprapers. Okay you want to hear a... Oh actually let me ask you what the game tomorrow then I'm gonna play this jam for you. Do you have a prediction what will the score be tomorrow night when Canada faces USA for hockey supremacy in Boston? 3-2 Canada. Is this going to overtime or are we gonna win a regulation? Regulation. Who's getting that game winning goal? Oh jeez, I knew you were gonna ask this. I'm excited to hear your thoughts. No, no, you know, no one can blame you if you're wrong because you don't have a crystal ball, do you? Come on,

this is a, you'll be off the hook. Is the score not enough? I don't want to jinx this. All right, let me throw it out there. I don't want to jinx us. I'm feeling, I know there's no such thing as a jinx mercy. Do you believe in jinxes? Yeah. Oh my goodness. Talk about that next time you're over. Cause I got an hour to talk about that. I'm going to call it.

I feel Nate McKinnon. Like I'm feeling Nate McKinnon. I mean, it would be easy to say Crosby. Sorry. He's Crosby is the guy you're rooting for because he's the 37 year old. I was going to say Sid. I would love it. Like everybody shows up.

Like Sid shows up for the big games. That empty net or that's right. That's what I'm saying Is that like Sid shows up? Yeah. Okay, so we'll say Sid. Thank you. Three two Regulation what if this happens Mike? Well, I have it recorded and then I will put it on I will put the video on social media and say Marcy called it. Okay, three two Sid Crosby love it Best player in the game today. It's been fun watching him. Connor McDavid, that explosive night and my wife's from Edmonton. So I did watch a lot of respect to Connor. Connor's got a lot of heart. It's the speed. Yeah. And he's got a lot of skill because I've never seen a player move that quickly. Like it's unbelievable

when he gets that speed behind him. I know can skate like that. It's gonna be fun. We've got a good team. It's going to be fun. It is. It's gonna be fun. I can't wait. Now will Justin, I don't know, maybe you don't know, but will Justin Chuteau be in Boston tomorrow for this final? I don't know, but that's a good question. Did he take your text? Let's text him live on there. Okay. So Marcy, you've been amazing the first time we met. I promised an hour I'm going to deliver Okay. So Marcy, you've been amazing. The first time we met, uh, I promised an hour I'm gonna deliver on that promise and I can't wait to finally get a photo with you by Toronto Tree But I am gonna close up a song. Okay, okay Toronto anthem if you will you ready? I'm ready

This is a throwdown I'd call this I'm gonna do this. He called my shot. I called it. On the mix. Come on. Scarborough's greatest. Mary, take it please.

In a moment, the beat will be played in many parts. I was looking at that. That's a classic vinyl. One, two, three. That's great. Vinyl. This brings back some amazing times. Mercy, Ian, I almost did this during our first Zoom, but I thought maybe one day she'll be in the basement and it'll be better And here I am here you are. Okay, you're listening to one of Toronto's anthems Let your backbone slide by maestro fresh west 1989 and you can't forget what you're doing Oh my he name checks the year. He does name check the year, which I appreciate actually

So I'm gonna hold it up for the camera. This is my I bought this 12 inch in 1989 Oh, where did you buy it? Do you remember? Yeah, Wellesley and Young soundscape. It was it was called I had a name like that I used to buy all my 12 inches there now I can't even play the damn thing because I don't have a record player anymore What I know but I do have my vinyl and I and I got my you've got a good collection over there Well, just yeah, it's cool. It's growing. I just can't play any of it, but that's okay But tell me what you're thinking of as you listen to Maestro Fresh.

Oh my gosh. These were great times in Scarborough. There was a place, it was a wing place at Kennedy and Sheppard in Scarborough and I want to say Wes, Farley Flex, like a bunch of the guys, a lot of them went to Leacock, Lammerow, they all worked there. So one of the coaches, I think it was Leacock, it might have been Leacock's football coach or something, was part owner and he hired all his guys. And on a Wednesday night or a Tuesday night, it would be like just throw down, like rap battles, like all sorts of stuff.

And it brings me back to that time. What a time that was. What a time that was. What a time that was. How well did you know the maestro? Very well. We were very, very good friends. What are you asking? My personal business. I don't want to pry. You're an honorable person. I literally put that in your title. I wondered if how well you knew Maestro Fresh West, who's a great FOTM himself and many, I mentioned Gen X earlier, the Gen Xers listening right now know every word to this song.

Yeah, every single word. And they're rapping along right now. And I have had Ed Keenan from the Toronto Star in this basement where we did this entire song. Are you serious? Just spontaneously, we just did it because we know every word to this song. Because that's what you have to do. And if you're from Toronto, you know how important this song is. I just wondered how well you knew maestro that song very very well Very very well haven't talked to him in quite a few years, but very well You have any pull with maestro. Can you get him back to Toronto? He left Toronto

I do not have but we have he's in New Brunswick. Right? Yeah, I Have not talked to him in years But I will I'll see what I can do. I know people who know people. But enough about DJ Ron Nelson. Look at you throwing Ron's name out there. He's a legend, man. Back in the day. Absolutely. Dream Warriors recorded and the legacy begins in his home studio. Oh my gosh. In a way, he's a big inspiration to me. Like, so he had a love dream, something like this. King Lou in capital Q just came down his stairs one day and dropped some tracks.

Kish, remember Kish? Yes, I remember Kish. Order from Chaos was also DJ Ron Nelson was the man. Fantastic Voyage, CKLM. Oh my gosh. We are really of the same time. And shout out to the queen of hip hop. Who I love, Mishy Mee.

Mishy Mee is the greatest. Yeah, the greatest. Remember Concert Hall? Did you go to any of those concerts? No, but those are the DJ. Okay, so DJ Ron Nelson comes over. We have a great chat about all this. And he goes, I knew hip hop was reaching a white audience when a guy came up to me after

one of the hip hop shows at the Concert Hall audience when a guy came up to me after one of the hip hop shows at the concert hall and gave me a bunch of money. And then DJ Ron Nelson's like, what's this money for? And he goes, that's your cut of t-shirt sales. And he said, the white people bought t-shirts. That's how you know you've made it right. And that's why white people like me know every word to Maestro Fresh West. So you knew him pretty well. Is that what you're saying? Very well. Okay. We're going to Maestro Fresh West. So you knew him pretty well? Is that what you're saying? Very well.

Okay. We're going to leave it at that? We'll leave it at that. And that brings us to the end of our 1634th show. So much fun to be with you. Where should people follow you? Like you are on Instagram. Where are you? Yeah.

You're social media, man. Do you want to tell people how to like keep up with what's going on? Marcy, get on that mic. Get on that mic. Go ahead, Hanan. Instagram is one of the best places. She responds often to DMs. I do. I've been sliding in those DMs. I do. I do.

So that's Marcy Ian. No spaces, just full name. Okay. I'm going to tag that Instagram account when I post this in like 10 minutes. Okay. Okay. Instagram's where you go. We're going to be on Blue Sky soon though. We'll be on Blue Sky soon. The exclusive. I don't know what that minister of transportation is announcing, but we got the big announcement here. Marcy Ian's coming to Blue Sky. That's what matters here. Go to torontomic.com for all your Toronto Mike needs. Much love again to all who made this possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. Yeah, I'm serious. That beer is yours. Fresh craft beer

brewed right here in Southern Etobicoke. Thank you. Palma Pasta. And I was serious. I have a little of my freezer for you. Thank you, Palma Pasta. Recyclebyelectronics.ca, Building Toronto Skyline, and Ridley Funeral Home. See you all. I have to go to my calendar, Marcy, because I didn't practice because I was very busy. That's okay. I had toast yesterday. I'm going to find out who the next guest is on Toronto Mic. So next... Oh, great. Next is tomorrow at 10 a.m. at live.torontomike.com. I have the official historian of the Toronto Mike podcast, Jeremy Hopkins in the basement. We always do a top

10 this, that Toronto history. It's amazing. Can't wait to see J-Ho. See you all then. So So Music