Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Mark Dailey: Toronto Mike'd #1170

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

In this 1170th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike and Ed "Retrontario" Conroy pay loving tribute to The Voice Mark Dailey. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Yes, We Are Open, The Advantaged Investor, Canna Cabana, StickerYou, Ridley Funeral Home and Electronic Products Recycling Association.

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The lowest prices on cannabis. Guaranteed. And Sammy Cone Real Estate. And Sammy Cohn Real Estate. Ask Sammy any real estate questions at sammy.cohn at properlyhomes.ca. In December 2018, Ed Conroy visited to record Christmas Crackers, our seasonal tradition. We're actually recording Volume 5 next week. But four years ago, we pay tribute to the voice, Mark Daly.

Mark Daly passed away 12 years ago at the far too young age of 57. Let's listen and remember what a beloved force he was in this city, and how much he's missed. I think that everything's okay with the kids. Are you that blind? You don't even recognize your own daughter? Seems like old times, doesn't it, Bob? It's sure great being home, Mom. Please don't ask us to start at the beginning.

Here's a story. This is a very special Christmas. No, it's not. It's a very Brady Christmas. Eight Sunday on City. Nobody does it better. Isn't that wonderful? I like that it's become self-aware.

I like it. That was great. Yeah, well, I guess now is as good a time as any to kick off our tribute to The Voice, the one and only Mark Daly. It's funny when there's been a lot of memorials this year to obviously Roger Ashby and people saying there's nobody that's ever gonna get an opportunity to do 50 years on radio now so he's like the last of

his kind and I think the same obviously said about Mark's work in that there's nobody that's ever I don't care if you're a vlogger or a YouTube star or what that's ever ever going to get the opportunity to become the voice of the city of Toronto. So, you know, we should pay our respects. That does it for Big Tom Rivers, 1971. Hank O'Neill starts a brand new year next at CKLW. For the last time this year, I will say to you, rock on, mother! Ladies and gentlemen, the beat goes on. CKLW, the Motor City.

So, CKLW, the Motor City. So CKLW, I'm sure you know a bit about that radio station, Mike. Known as the Big Eight. The Big Eight, operating out of Windsor. Just to back up a little bit, so Mark Daly was born in Youngstown, Ohio in 1953. And he was very passionate from a young age about three things, law enforcement, broadcasting, and trucks. He loved trucks. He loved driving trucks. He loved talking about trucks. And when he was a teenager, this is a fascinating story. He worked as a agent of the Tri-County Drug Squad. So often you'll see when you read about Mark Daly, he was a policeman.

He never was actually like a policeman on the beat. He was basically an undercover 21 Jump Street kind of guy. And he was working with the Ohio Police Department. And he gave this great interview in the late 70s where he said basically he gave it up because his friends disowned him and they're like you can't do that and they called him marco the narco and he realized that was going to kill any social life he had so he got out of it he remained fascinated by law enforcement and obviously kept close friends with people in law enforcement but he started to focus on his broadcast career so he had his inaugural radio stuff was the smaller stations in ohio so wytv wnio but his big break came at cklw the big eight which was in windsor now

a little bit about cklw uh there's we could do a 10-hour show about the historical importance of cklw but i don't if you remember when wise blot was here a few years ago you and uh and him and myself did a show about chum the chum requiem of course and uh wise blot did a brilliant uh little bit explaining the format which was invented by a man named bill Drake that was called the Boss Radio or Drake format. And that was basically like produced so tight where you just had jingles and on-air DJs and music and it was like there was not even a millisecond of dead air. It was you turned on that station

and it grabbed you by the balls and you never changed the channel, right? It was an incredible format. So the, the big eight used that format and because they were, um, uh, broadcasting at 50,000 Watts, it was an incredibly powerful signal. So even though it's based in Windsor, most of their listeners were in Detroit, but they were also hitting, uh, Ohio and parts of New York, parts of Chicago. Um, and there was a, a person that worked at CKLW by the name of Rosalie Trombele. And she's famous because she was playing a lot of Motown. So this is in the

late 60s. And again, this is a great Canadian story. It doesn't get as much attention as I think it deserves. Everybody knows Motown now. Everybody thinks that, you know, happened organically in America. Of course, those records were being produced in Detroit, but the only stations that were playing them in America were very low frequency, sort of specialized African-American channels. And so nobody was really hearing it outside of scattered geographical areas. So CKLW is playing Gladys Knight. CKLW is playing all of these great Motown records, and people are hearing it in Cleveland and in New York. And Motown blows up basically because of a station in Windsor. So magnificent station. They also had a little bit

later this fantastic format of news called 2020. And the 2020 format was 20 minutes after the hour, 20 minutes before the next hour. And it's kind of considered the first tabloid radio news. So it was very salacious and it was very much focused on the obscene amount of murder and mayhem that was happening in Detroit at at the time and that's where daly started and that's where he honed his craft it's 3 40 this is mark daly cklw 2020 use borrowing any unforeseen downpours the freeway should be passable with caution during rush hour heavy rains weren't swallowed by drains along the lodge freeway especially causing some high waters and now street crews are trying to clean off mud and debris

in both the north and southbound lanes. Police are urging extreme caution along the lodge, but all freeways will be open this morning. The high Lake Erie water surfaced another floater off the Gibraltar Marina. Two fishermen hooked the male remains and pulled her to shore. Don Kowalski was working on his boat when the body washed in. I was down working on my boat and seeing this one come in pretty fast. It's a remarkable piece.

Anybody interested, check it out. There's a CKLW fan page on Facebook that has a bunch of air checks. And that was from 1973. And if you know Daly's work, that sounds like it could have been from 93 or 2003. I mean, he had it right from the get-go. And I love the floater. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was very graphic and very film noir is the word that is used about 2020 news.

Dick Smythe, he's another guy from the 2020s. Dick Smythe was from 2020, absolutely. And, of course, because the station was so recognized, it was getting a lot of attention. And the other thing important to note is that Daly was embedded in Detroit. Even though he worked for a Windsor station, he was covering the beat in Detroit.

And this is a time when there was 800 homicides a year. And Daly would talk about how he'd go on shift. And by the time he'd come off his shift, there had been eight murders. So he got a real taste of mayhem and murder and gangs and gun violence in Detroit, cut his teeth there. And it's interesting. I don't know, Mike, if you in the future, when you have guests that know a bit more about, this is where it gets a little bit weird for me. I know that in 1974, he gets a call to go work at Chum. Okay, makes perfect sense. We know Tom Rivers was at Chum.

Tom Rivers was at CKLW the same time he was there. But at some point around then as well, he worked at Q107. And he was the very first news director of Q107 so i don't know donna b would know me donna b would know for sure it's it because i tried to investigate that there's nothing online other than the mention of him being the first news director but we know he became a big deal at chum and he also became obviously in toronto he became friends with a man by the name of Glenn Cole. Now, Glenn Cole, you might remember, was the assignment editor at City Pulse on City TV, and Glenn Cole was an ex-Mountie, ex-RCMP, and again, this ties back to Daly's friendship with

the law enforcement community. So he would go hang out and go to bars and go to dinner with cops and RCMP. And that was the kind of people that he liked to hang out with. And so he got to know Glenn Cole. And Glenn Cole said, shit, you got to come and work at City Pulse. You know, we have, we're, Moses wants to reinvent news the way that news in Toronto is reported. And they already had jojo chinto so they already had you know a fantastic sort of beat guy who who knew the streets of

toronto but they are like you covered detroit and you got to come to toronto so in 1979 he comes to work at city tv police have charged two of the men 39 year-year-old Ronald Oswald of Scarborough and 38-year-old Nicholas Sekulitis of Walmer Road with conspiracy and 12 counts of robbery and using firearms. Through witnesses and a bank photograph recently, police had released these composite drawings of the two bandits, noted for their aggressive, threatening style. They often mentioned they had come from the swamp, which we took to mean either Vietnam or prison. mention they had come from the swamp which we took to mean either vietnam or prison the swamp gang dried up yesterday around 2 p.m when two men grabbed nearly three thousand dollars in a robbery of the bank of montreal at leslie and nymark the two men fled toward a nearby getaway car behind

the plaza staff sergeant frank craddock was one of five hold up squad officers who met them with pointed shotguns in the squad we are all very professional people and we know how to handle and deal with these type of situations and it was a very tense moment but there was no problems with the arrests and everything went very well. Later police picked up 34 year old Robert McMillan of Whitmore Avenue and George Zolas 33 of Scarborough. They're each charged with just several of the 12 stick-ups. Police also seized two vehicles. They actually belonged to two of the accused. Police note that nobody ever saw the getaway cars because of the threats made by the bandits in the banks.

All four appeared briefly in provincial court in North York this morning and were remanded in custody. The Swamp Boys stayed in their own neighborhood since last March 19th. They hit about a bank a month, all east of Yonge Street, mostly in Scarborough, with brief appearances in Markham and Pickering. The Hold Up Squad traditionally clears most of the financial institution robberies every year, and they're well on the road to doing it again. They've cleared up 82% of the cases with arrests and charges this year. In fact, they've cleared up 37 cases in the last two weeks, some of those from 1982.

Mark Daly at the Hold Up Squad office, City Pulse. So, yeah, I mean, so hard boiled. And he, at the time, he's rocking this fedora. He had his raincoat on. And he was actually, his nickname amongst the Toronto Police Department was the inspector. Because he would show up at these, whether it was a bank robbery or a homicide. And often people that obviously didn't know who he was, cause this is still the early days. They thought he was a cop, right? Cause he kind of acted and talked like Jack Webb, right? He's like the guy from Dragnet. I mean, he's just business. Um, so he had this incredible relationship with the police department and they trusted him.

Like they would tell him stuff and then they'd say, you can't report this like we're not going to tell you this on the record but that would help in his reportage and again this this was all very crucial in the early days of city pulse to give that credibility so it's like if you um wanted to know about crime in toronto you knew jojo chinto and mark daly were like the best reporters covering these things but not good enough to know if swamp boys meant vietnam or prison well either one's pretty terrifying right um also interesting around this time uh there was a horrible event that happened in toronto in 1980 you might remember it there was a police officer by the name of Michael Sweet, who was murdered when he went, he took a call, he was just about to go off shift,

he got a call that there was a robbery in progress at a bar on Queen Street, so him and his partner went, these two low-life guys, brothers, shot Michael Sweet, and he was still alive but he was bleeding out and uh begging to begging these guys to be let go so um he could see his kids and um he died um and Daly was apparently at his desk on Queen Street 99 and uh he was the first one on the scene and there was no other reporters there and for the rest of his career he always talked about that night being you know the most heinous crime that he had ever seen and this is a guy that was in Detroit you know when 800 people were dying a year and it's remarkable because I also interviewed Gordon Martineau a few years ago, and I asked him, you know, throughout his whole career,

what was the hardest story that he ever covered? And he said, without a doubt, it was the murder of Officer Sweet. And, you know, Daley talked about it always for the rest of his life. And it was just an absolutely horrible thing. And, you, you know, up until then we were known as Toronto, the good. And a lot of people talk about that, that night, uh, in 1980 as being when we stopped being Toronto, the good. Um, yeah, it's a tough one. Um, you know, he was the only guy, uh, that of all the newscasters in, the only guy that of all the newscasters in Toronto at the time that had that kind of support and access to the Toronto Police Department. He also started up an organization which is still running called Crime Stoppers. And that was, again, kind of taking the the city TV ethos, which was, you know, engage viewers to become part of the story. So, I mean, people

call it a snitch line, but the idea of Crime Stoppers was that you might know somebody that's involved in these things. So, you know, call this number and help us catch the bad guys. So, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you remember when Mark Daly passed at his funeral, the majority of people speaking were police officers including the chief at the time uh so let's get to a much happier time uh 1983 uh two incredible things happened to city tv in 1983 very important uh groundbreaking things happened number one they started to say everywhere okay up until that point they just used to say that you're watching toronto television but they started to they actually started it on city pulse they said city pulse was everywhere and then not long after

city tv was everywhere and then number two the guy who did all the voiceovers on City TV was nobody can remember his name. I've tried to look him up. He was just, you know, he did his job. He was fine. He went on holiday and they needed somebody to do a voiceover for a movie. And somebody said, why don't you ask Mark to do it? Because he's got this baritone voice. And apparently Daly said, oh, you know, I'm so busy.

I'm doing all this stuff. Get somebody else. He really was not into doing it. And they said, no, come on. So they did a little test. And here's a great, amazing, rare little thing that I found, which was the very first test of Mark Daly's voiceover skill. little thing that I found, which was the very first test of Mark Daly's voiceover skill. So what we're going to hear first is it was for a spot for the movie of the great movie of this

particular night, which was the fall of the house of Usher. And the first part you hear is the regular guy doing the voiceover. And then they got Mark to do the same script and see if you notice the difference. It's like the pepsi taste test challenge here tonight at eight from the mind of edgar allen poe comes this house of horror the house where the lord of darkness reigns and where murder becomes pleasure robert hayes charlene tilton and martin land, The Fall of the House of Usher, tonight at 8. Tonight, from the mind of Edgar Allan Poe, comes this house of horror. The house where the Lord of Darkness reigns, and where murder becomes pleasure.

Robert Hayes, Charlene Tilton, and Martin Landau, The Fall of the House of usher tonight on great movies so yeah uh there's a great great story um that mark daly used to tell about how he got a note from moses like from moses's office and the headline of the note said, a star is born. Um, because Moses didn't like these guys that were doing the voiceovers before because they were just totally conventional. And it's actually in, I don't know if you've ever seen it, but Joel directed this brilliant, uh, 90 minute sort of a dinner slash roast. Uh, when Moses left Trump in 2003. It's called Moses TV. And it's basically all of his friends and coworkers standing up and telling stories about him. And Daly stands up and says,

I remember the night when I first went on and I got this telegram from Moses saying a star is born because that voice represented to Moses that kind of, it was like a disembodied voice that had so much emotion and it was exactly the kind of stuff that Moses wanted on City TV, but he hadn't been able to get. And again, you got to remember, we're going to play some more clips, but at this time, they didn't advertise the fact that it was Mark Daly. Now, eagle-eared viewers that watched City Pulse probably made the connection, oh yeah, the guy talking about movies is the same guy doing the crime. But the idea was it was meant to be a secret. So here we have a short clip of City Pulse

and the trademark everywhere. City Pulse everywhere. And then the station id from the corner of x and x climbing higher to see the light this is city tv everywhere and you know the everywhere stuff of course is to this day the number one thing people remember about city tv and they still say the station retired it however many years ago but it is forever linked to that station and i believe that is because at the time it gave city tv this connection to viewers. As Brian so eloquently said from the beginning, that no matter where you were in the city, you would see an ID that would say, we're at the corner of Bathurst and Bloor.

This is City TV everywhere. We're wherever, everywhere. Who retired it? Do you remember when? Well, Rogers. Rogers retired it not long after mark daly passed away because i guess they thought it was so linked to him um but i like many other decisions they made i don't agree with that um and it's unfortunate but that being said i mean daly clearly was having so much fun doing these because he didn't always say everywhere in the same way, right?

One of the things that cracks me up about, say, News Talk 1010, I don't know if you hear when they have their reporters. Oh, yeah, Siobhan Mars will go, 1010. News Talk 1010. They say it in these kind of weird ways, which is cool because it registers. But Daly never said everywhere the same way twice,

which, man, he, he must've done thousands of those thousands and thousands. And, you know, I'm forever finding new ones. And, and clearly as the years went by, he got more and more experimental.

Like they were kind of very standard for the first 10 years. And then you get into the nineties and they kind of go crazy. But, you know, clearly we're, you know clearly we're you know we're still in sort of mid 80s here and daly becomes the de facto voice of not only city tv the programming but also he starts doing commercials and you know one of the things that i remember being so funny about the 80s was you'd see a movie commercial like uh you know nightmare on elm street coming

to the eaton center but then it would be the american commercial but then at the very end it would be like dave deval or you know somebody from the channel that was airing it that would be like now playing at a theater near you right so of course daily does it it's like a depth charge. It's time to come out of the cold and into Bolarama, where you're always assured of a warm welcome. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. So this winter, meet your friends at Bolarama. For reservations, call U-Bowl. That was for Mark Weisblatt, by the way.

He loves those songs. So what's the story on Bolarama? The final location is shut down? The Bathurst one, yeah. And again, I think Mark and I communicate about this quite a bit because it's like a real end of an era, but it's not really

being recognized as such for some odd reason. It was just last year, I think it was last year or two years ago. Again, I'm having trouble whether it was a year ago or two years ago, just like the age of your youngest. But there was a Dundas Street location that I used to go to all

the time that shut down and now there's i don't know a condo is being built there uh but yeah the bathurst location uh i think it just closed its doors this week last week i think yeah i mean i it's sad i think bowling is a casualty of of devices and short attention spans and it's it's just not the thing that we all used to go and do to kill time and it takes up a lot of space i think it's sort of like a golf course like hey that's a lot of space we can you know totally totally i think we had a now playing in there oh yeah here's a now playing of course now playing at a theater near you consult local listings it's funny too because you know the levels that the commercial play at are low.

And then it's like Daily's thing comes on and it blows the speakers. Well, that's it. I'm on my toes this episode because I have to... I give myself two seconds to adapt. Is this going to be one of those quiet ones I got to jack up or one of those screaming? Somebody's listening now like on a i don't know a jog or something they're having a heart attack oh it's like a screamer video on youtube so this next one i love and i'll tell you a funny story is that this was the clip that uh when when mark

passed away city tv to the to roger's credit they did a wonderful, wonderful memorial about him. And they showed it that night on City Pulse. And they left it on the website for years and years afterwards. It's not there anymore, but it was there for a long time. And they took clips off of my YouTube channel, which was awesome. I was so happy that they did that. Because, again, nobody there at the time would have known where to find any of this stuff.

Think about that for a moment. You're archiving the history of this station and then when they want to share old clips, they don't go into their own library or whatever. They go to you who spent all that time for love of the game.

You've spent all that time archiving the clips and they play your youtube clips from yeah that's sort of bizarre no i i was so thrilled because i thought that this was a really good polaroid of when uh mark started to get kind of playful with with his voiceovers and and i i'm sure i told i don't know if it's the last time or two trips ago here we we talked about the Bob Segherini story with the cats and he was the host of Lake Great Movies and he got fired and so Daley took over.

Obviously, he's hosting it as a voice but he did these intros and that's when he really was let loose because Great Movies was on in prime time. He had to be somewhat conventional but once you got past midnight and you're showing B-movies. and the like he had much more license to be funny blue lagoon exactly or or the the daryl hannah greece movie i forget what that was called but

yeah a lot of a lot of movies we watched as teenagers um but this this little clip that we're going to hear next is, is just so perfect. It's a classic Mark. Stay with city TV. As we take you away from all this regular programming stuff to show you what television really can be. Oh,

I'm sorry. I was reading the wrong copy. Late great movies are next. From the City Pulse newsroom, this is Toronto Television. City TV, everywhere. You're about to enter the vast world of late great movies. Big deal, right? Tonight, we're repeating a movie we had about a month ago because we feel like it, and I like it.

Audie Murphy stars. Remember him? In Showdown. But, Ed, this was the character that drew me to this, that made this my station. Totally. Totally. And it's funny.

Moses has a fantastic quote that i just found recently where he talks about back then people chose their television station it was almost like a fashion statement right it's like you know some people choose to wear club monaco because it says something about them people chose to watch city tv it was like a statement almost. Like, I watch City Pulse News. I don't watch CBC News, you know? And I think for sure that character that Mark embodied, that irreverent wit and humor

of making fun of these things that were ludicrous, right? But when they show a shitty movie on CBC, they act like it's a great movie, right? So it was so refreshing. And I think tons of people were watching it just to hear him make fun of the movies, right? Oh, for sure.

So yeah, I mentioned many times, I spend a ludicrous amount of time going through these old home-recorded VHS and beta tapes that thankfully survived the years. People kept them, and now they donate them to Retro Ontario. And I love, even though I've got a million of them, to find another great movies intro with Mark Daly saying stuff like that. It's still a buzz. stuff like that. It's still a buzz.

And now we get to the part of the story where it's really interesting because it's now the 80s, mid-80s, and Trump City is starting to create new channels. And obviously the big one. But I think I might have one more trailer. I think I have one more in the queue. Oh, yes. How could I forget?

Before you get there. Yes. Let's play those other movie trailers. Oh, yes. How could I forget? Before you get there. Yes. Let's play those other movie trailers. Well, my little cousin. Tonight on Pervert Playhouse. You say you're from St. Alphonse and you claim to be my cousin. I'm sorry, I don't remember you at all.

Who are you? He's a smelly old man with a dirty little plan. I don't trust him. I wouldn't either after what he did to Buffy last night. How can you imagine a mother waiting night after night? Well, I bet that's not the only pipe getting smoked around here. Hey, Buffy? I believe someday you will be your father.

Kissing Cousin, tonight on Pervert Playhouse. Everything seems completely different to me today. Tonight on Citi, Wank Week continues with another chicken choking classic. A movie? He's on a double date with the Palm Sisters. A lot of things about me you don't know anything about. Things you wouldn't understand. Stand up!

Best wife in the whole world. Congratulations to you too. Pocket Pool Pee Wee, Congratulations to you, too. Pocket Pool Pee Wee, brought to you by Handy Wipes. Tonight on City. Where's Jessica? Sunday, all's well that ends in the well for poor Southern trash. My baby, she fell out of the well. Help me, get her now. And every asshole and his dog shows up.

The world's attention is riveted on the fate of a brave little girl stuck in an abandoned 8-inch water well at least a little tramp had a well when I was her age I would have given my left nut for any type of hole to play in why you've got your mind set on a sequel everybody's meal ticket Sunday tonight he's a pussy chasing dry humping hound of love we don't want any kind of dog we want benji you leave my sweetie peety alone benji finds a girlfriend they go out for a few drinks then he takes the bitch home where they do it doggy style sex police will benji be neutered what's that it's a dog fuck you i'm chasing tail quit fucking the dog you can't lick benji that's his job a family classic tonight i can i caught on though the the

well one and i'm like the tramp and this the the and i'm like no these are not real no those of course were for the christmas party. Just so good. Obviously, better with the visuals, too, but you get the idea. Wank week. Very subversive. Wank week continues here on City TV. Yeah, so we all know and love the movie voiceover stuff, the City Pulse stuff.

The next clip, you know, it's a little bit of a not a little bit of a point of contention but you know i loved christopher ward's book about much music i think it's brilliant it's absolutely the most brilliant book about that point in time however it does not mention mark daily once and i thought that was a terrible oversight but it's an understandable oversight because i guess the people that were working on air at much music they didn't think about the promos and as a viewer you know when much music started it was a pay tv channel it wasn't on basic cable so all i remember of much music in the early days was seeing commercials for it that were voiced by Mark Daly.

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Much music. Get yours now. You know, that made me want to buy Much Music, just his enthusiasm. Yeah, and, you know, as years go on, Much Music is no longer pay. It's on basic. He's still doing all of the promos. And as a fellow hip-hop fan, I'm sure it was always funny to hear him talk about Chabaranks and Big Daddy Kane and people like that. This Christmas, we've got the perfect gift idea to give or receive.

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of of renegade t-shirt designers in toronto because nobody knows who he is i collaborated with him but i never met him in person i don't even know what his name is but he creates these t-shirts out of vintage brands so he did like a becker's shirt and he did a you know byway shirt and all this kind of stuff and he reached out to me i've said i love what you do and would you like to collaborate on something and we threw around some ideas we said let's do a city tv shirt my only caveat was let's do a channel 79 uh city tv as opposed to a 57 um but yeah i figured i'm repping the station i gotta but you got the everywhere in the arms let's do a channel 79 city TV as opposed to a 57. But yeah, I figured I'm repping the station.

I got a, but you got the everywhere in the arms, but everywhere doesn't debut until it doesn't. You don't hear everywhere on 79. You did. Yes. Cause 79 did not become 57 until fall of 83. So there was about six months of everywhere on 79.

I thought I had you there. No, come on. I got to wake up really early in the morning. That's great. Anyways, we'll have a photo together afterwards and let people see the... So he's just, he's like,

I never even knew about this guy. Yeah, so he's kind of an Instagram guy. I think that's his only social presence. And he does runs, they're limited. So there's only like 50 of each shirt. And he'll announce I'm here on Sunday. And it's like first come, first serve.

But absolutely. He did a consumer's distributing like hoodie, you know, like just cool shit. How have I never heard of this guy? Like I feel ignorant. No, I mean,

look, it's underground. It's for the kids, right? I'm too old. That's it. They don't tell me. Yeah, I'm too old for that. But really, for the kids,

does consumers distribute it? Yeah, because it's like crazy old shit, you know? Video 99? It's funny. The kids buy it to be irrelevant or to be irreverent. It's ironic or something, and then we buy it like to be like irrelevant or like to be uh irreverent like uh it's like uh ironic or something and then we buy it for nostalgia because we're like i want to wrap a byway shirt you know

that's funny yeah um yeah so you know we're still talking much music i think we have a clip oh yeah we got another one funny names here we go coming up on much saturday Master T and Roxy kick it into full effect on your one and only weekend dance fix, Extend the Mix. And on Soul in the City, Michael Williams shares the floor with the irrepressible Johnny Gill. Later, Roxy Music give you more than this when they're featured in the spotlight. Later Roxy Music give you more than this when they're featured in the spotlight. Then catch live coverage via satellite from Ottawa with Steve, Erica, Ziggy, and Master T as they try to make much out of the events leading up to the choosing of a leader at the Federal Conservative Leadership Convention. Take me to your leader.

Put some new provisions in place and move ahead. See, you know, we talked about this last time, but where else were you getting Master T, Extendimix, and then politics? You know, it's so great. Is that Denise Donlan's doing? Was she a big... I think she was a big part of that, for sure. But it also fit into Moses's idea that music was just a part of life and you had to focus on the important things like politics. You could make politics interesting by having Ed the Sock or Master T go and interview people that wanted to be prime minister. Let me share with everybody that I received a note from Master T just last week

and he says he's definitely coming on in early 2019. Nice. So Master T, you can hook me up with some good audio for that. Buddy. That'll be fun. So we're now in full, everybody knows Mark Daly's The Voice. He actually starts to get credited on the show. So when Speaker's Corner would end and the credits would roll, the very first credit would say The Voice, Mark Daly. Well, Toronto, that's all for this week's show.

Remember, talk is deep, so come on down to 299 Queen Street West. Drop in a loonie and speak your mind. You can win great prizes and all money goes to charity. Until next week, I'm Mark Daly. I always love that jazzy thing. I love this show. Like, I would watch on the weekends.

I'd watch Speaker's Corner, and I would go over to Queen and John and stick a loonie and try to get on Speaker's Corner. Did you ever get on? No, I never got on. That you know of. Oh, that I know of. Right, right, right.

Now, do you remember who gave out the prizes on Speaker's Corner? I'm going to guess it uh q107's own uh jennifer uh valentine yeah good man of course um yeah speakers corner my god what an institution another thing that everybody still talks about that why did they get rid of it there's never been a good answer and did rogers get rid of that too? Oh, yeah. And their excuse was that they, I mean, of course, they had to move out of 299.

But, I mean, can you imagine if they put one at Yonge-Dundas Square? What kind of entertainment would we be looking at? Is it possible, like, again, I'm equally in love and hate

with Bell Rogers. I don't have any affiliation at all. But because it was a Moses thing, they kind of wanted to sanitize it a bit and maybe just uh is there anything there that there's some things these are these are moses things and we need to lose the past to stamp our own identity on this station we've uh i don't think so because moses left chum city in 2003 and rogers didn't acquire them until almost five years after that right Right. It's still ran after Moses left. I think, to be honest with you, it's a mundane reason. It was money. I mean, it was just

another line item that the bean counters are like, why do we need this? People have the internet now. You know, YouTube was active. Blogs were active. And they thought nobody gives a shit about this kind of stuff anymore. But I don't believe that for one minute. It was a differentiator. Like, what was the difference between City TV and CTV? Well, these things. You know what I mean?

The nuances, absolutely. I'm still mad that they cancelled Silverman Helps, okay? Oh, well, it's funny, Mike, because when I was researching Speaker's Corner, there's a brilliant article floating around that was written by Rob Salem another amazing guy I don't know if he's ever been on here you should get him on he knows a lot of

cool stuff he wrote an article basically saying I can't believe that Rogers cancelled Speaker's Corner and then at the end of the article he's like if you weren't angry enough they also just cancelled Silverman so Silverman and Speaker's Corner both were axed at the exact same time. And around that time, I think maybe Ed's night party or something,

like a lot of these kind of cool things kind of got it at the same time period. For sure. Now, the next clip is another great thing that Rogers killed, which was the New Year's Eve party at Nathan Phillips Square. I don't know if you ever went to one of those. Watched it on TV many times, though. Right. It was just a great thing to have on.

Because Rock and Ronnie would have the fur jacket, the fur coat on. And he looked exactly the same, right? Yeah, for sure. But yeah, I went once, and I don't think I had a very good time. But it was a cool thing that you'd have on the TV on New Year's Eve if you were at a party or something. And I think, too, it made rock stars out of a lot of these City TV Much Music hosts. Because, you know, Gordon Martineau or Mark Daly would go on the stage and it'd be like thousands of people screaming. That must have been a real buzz for them, I'm sure,'m sure, to go from the studio to that kind of environment.

Two, one. Happy New Year, Toronto. It's the biggest. It's the best. It's the only New Year's Eve bash you'll want to be at this year. But City TV brings you live performances by Cassandra Bassick. TBTBT. And John James and the Mothers of Home. Gord Martineau and Monica Neal host as the City of Toronto,

Golden Griddle, and City TV present the ninth annual traditional New Year's Eve bash. Be there. Some of the bands didn't age very well, I guess. TBTBT, I seem to remember that. One Hit Wonders, I think. It rings a musty bell. well i guess but uh tbtbt i seem to remember that like one hit wonders i think it rings it rings a musty bell um and then yeah you know we're now in the late 90s and there's this massive explosion of digital specialty channels which of course moses and chum city had more more channels than you could believe. They were theme channels, niche channels.

CP24 was known as Cable Pulse 24. And as you remember, it was the City Pulse gang doing it 24 hours a day. And everybody knows CP24 now, but it ain't what it was when it started.

CP24, Greater Toronto's number't what it was when it started. CP24, Greater Toronto's number one news channel, can now be your first pick. Make us your default station on your digital cable box. Just simply hit the setting button twice on your remote. Follow the instructions on the general settings screen. Scroll

to viewer, power on. When the list of channels appears, simply highlight 24 and accept be in the know instantly whenever you push the on button easy access to the gta's number one news channel cv24 it's that simple not complicated at all i think there's a simpsons bit where they like it's that easy and it's a bunch of convoluted instructions and i feel like that was like satire if i had my consumers distributing watch that could set my vcr time tasio but yeah i mean that i don't know if you remember it mike i was at uni at the time but i definitely remember there being a buzz about all these new channels

because you know growing up it was always i everybody knew somebody who had a satellite or whose uncle had a satellite and they got all these funky channels. But suddenly in Toronto, we had all these channels. Another great one, when it started, was amazing, that was a Chum City channel, was the Space Channel. And the Space Channel was called the Imagination Station. And it was a Moses original because he was like, we're going to show the science fiction shit like star trek and all that but we're really gonna focus on science fact so they had tons of great you know documentaries about science and about the future and time travel and they took it seriously now it's just a dumping ground for for junk um but yeah i mean mark daly was repping space in the early days

was repping space in the early days. The Daleks are masters of Earth. It's television's longest running science fiction series. Man to them is just a work machine. Where are you from? Famous for its infinite flexibility. You'll never control the Cybermen. I am the leader now. You will be exterminated.

Shall I fire, Commander? Doctor Who. Weekdays on Space. The Imagination Station. You know that reaction you had to Blinky? That's my Doctor Who. It's my Doctor Who story. Because it came on TV Ontario.

Right, after Polka Dot Door. And it would seriously traumatize me. And even hearing it now, I have this guttural reaction where I don't like it. Yeah, well, it's just weird. The British people that made Doctor Who, especially the people who did the sound,

the monster voices and stuff, they were on a next level, man. They did some weird stuff. Now, we'd be remiss when we're talking about science fiction to not celebrate Mark Daly's tremendous contribution to Star Trek. Of course, City TV showed Star Trek The Next Generation and all the other shows in the 90s.

And he used to have a special name for City TV when he would promote Star Trek. It is my moral duty to protect mankind from whatever devious plan you have in mind. Saturday, City proudly presents the season premiere of Star Trek The Next Generation. History has to fulfill itself. I'm going back to

the 19th century to get the captain. Do you know me? Very well. If we can get back there and destroy that site, it might put an end to that time traveling. Power up the photons, Mr. Wolf. Data's fate awaits him in the season premiere of Star Trek The Next Generation, Saturday at 7 on your Federation station.

Your Federation station. Perfect. And of course, they showed the last episode of Star Trek TNG at the Skydome. And they had all their personalities, including your friends Humble and Fred, dressed up in Star Trek costumes.

And Monica D'Ole was dressed up like Deanna Troi. Oh, Monica. Wow. I'm never going to forget that night. I do remember, like, maybe it's you, actually, sharing footage of this on YouTube and revisiting it. And like, did this really happen? But yeah, it happened. It was a crazy, like a Lollapalooza for nerds.

The other one I always remember is the Cheers finale. Okay. But do you remember? No, we're getting into the Mandela effect now. No, you're the authority. I'm listening closely. But I remember a station, whatever station broadcast that show,

I don't know if it was global or whatever, you'll remind me, but didn't they have a public viewing of this in like a Skydome type of facility? Tell me, Mandela Effect. No, I'm glad you brought this up because this is a bit Mandela Effect. I've had many people over the years

contact me about that exact subject because I've written about the Star Trek Skydome thing. But I've had people claim that the Cheers finale was shown in Skydome and that the Seinfeld finale was shown at Skydome. I can't find evidence of either. The Seinfeld, I would remember that because I watched Seinfeld.

But Cheers, there was something. What was it? Dude, a lot of people think that. But I invite your listeners, if somebody was something. What was it? Dude, a lot of people think that. But I invite your listeners, if somebody was there. But I think maybe it happened and then somehow it was undone in the past. You know of the Mendel effect, right? Yeah, is this the Berenstain Bears thing? Yes, Berenstain Bears is part of it.

It's this idea that there's people time traveling and messing with the timelines back to the future style uh but it's only affecting bears example is stupid okay it's always it's the weakest one you're right and i think that okay there's a lot of people for example if i remember this correctly they remember a a sinbad movie about a genie or something but it's there it's basically there was a movie with shack as a genie and then our people are like yeah slightly misremembering so you're right maybe there was never a cheers public viewing as i recall and maybe i've taken the star trek next generation memory which is real and somehow it got its lines crossed it's yeah well it's it's super weird because and all of the mandela effect examples are weird because it's not just one person. Like, you could forgive one person for saying,

I'm pretty sure this thing happened. But when you have large groups of people that swear down Berenstain Bears was spelled a certain way or that the Sinbad movie was at their blockbuster, it is a little weird. I'm not willing to just write that off and say that's bullshit.

It's interesting. The origin of the term is because a bunch of people remember Nelson Mandela dying in prison, which is a weird thing. Which is strange because that did not happen. Very interesting. Well, we're still on the topic of interesting science and time travel and whatnot. interesting science and time travel and whatnot uh tour of the universe the uh groundbreaking ride that was at the base of the cn tower that was of the vision of moses neimer uh of course he gets mark daily to do the voiceover on the commercials this is the central scrutinizer announcing the world's newest travel opportunity tour of the universe

blast off from the new spaceport at the base of the cn tower participate in the wonder and excitement of a shuttle trip to the solar system round trip regularly seven dollars now only four dollars for adults 250 for smaller earthlings call cp interplanetary at 363 tour now that's uh dirt cheap man i know and what did you ever go on it yeah i do remember going on this it's it's lasted me a lifetime of memories for two dollars or whatever whatever but even back then that's uh sounds like a good deal to me it was no it was and unfortunately i think that's what killed it was because it was only one simulator, they could only fit like 40 people on at one time. If you go to Disney World, you go on the Star Wars version, and it's the same people that

built Star Wars one that built the tour one. They've got like 10 of them going at the same time. So the economics make sense. But yeah, Tour of the Universe, man. How long was it there? It was there from 86 to 92 so a fair chunk of time by the end you see what's sad to me is i went probably in 86 or 87 yeah me too by the end they actually had actors in in costumes like aliens and space police and they actually were doing like um scripted uh interactions

where there would be a storyline going on like an alien smuggler was trying to escape and it all tied into this moses idea of the living movie which was that you paid your money to go on the ride but you also were in the middle of basically a movie that was unfolding and he also had a play at the same time called Tamara. And in the play, you went to a house and people in the play where actors were going into different rooms and you'd follow certain actors around. It was an absolutely amazing concept. Obviously, we go into great detail on his biographical website about the living movie. And you can read lots more about that when we go live.

Hey, yeah, this Moses project you've been working on, how often do you get FaceTime with Moses? I see him on the reg. I see him on the reg. You know, it's always incredibly humbling and I'm always kind of like pinching myself that I'm actually sitting in his office and I'm saying things and he's laughing.

You know, it's surreal, but it's great. And I think he likes what I do for him. He should like what you do for him because you do great work and he should come on Toronto Mic'd. And you know what? Tell him if to make him comfortable, tell him you'll be there beside him.

You can both sit there and I can bring Ziggy in too if you want. Well, that would be more useful than me being here. I've got the extra mic. See, this is the fourth mic now. Oh yeah, you decked out sit here. And I can bring Ziggy in too if you want. Well, that would be more useful than me being here. I've got the extra mic. See, this is the fourth mic now. Oh, yeah. You can do it all. You decked out in here.

So we're getting, you know, we're now into the late 90s. And here's my personal connection with Mark Daly. When I graduated from college or from university, you know, I had aspirations of being a filmmaker. That was I wanted to go make movies. And, of course, I had aspirations of being a filmmaker. That was, I wanted to go make movies. And of course it's a tough racket. And I was doing, um, I was actually working for the OPP because the OPP would make these short films about, uh, certain subjects. And I got this one about gambling addiction and it was so hard to write. It was probably the hardest thing I've ever had to do in my life was research gambling addiction addiction and it was so hard to write it was probably the hardest thing

i've ever had to do in my life was research gambling addiction and it was so depressing and fucked up and i had no understanding of it and it's funny i think your best episode of this year of course was peter gross and i i came away from that episode with a much better understanding of it but it was something that was so alien to me and so writing the script and we had this older british lady who was basically going to be the voiceover for this this 20 minute uh documentary about gambling addiction and it was like the driest shitty boring thing and then i'm sitting with the the people at the opp they're agreeing that it's not working and they said well we could get somebody else to do the voice uh what about mark daily

and i was like are you kidding me like you can get mark daily like yeah mark daily i mean he's a friend of the opp he does all of our like car chase documentaries and all so holy shit i went back and i started rewriting the script because i'm like i want mark daly to say you know these lines that i'm writing it became this it suddenly like the the project became a lot punches it up it punched it right up and um i took great pleasure in putting in my friends names and all this to so we could hear Mark Dilley say it. Now, I've threatened to put this garbage online. I haven't yet. It's kind of embarrassing, but here's a little clip from it.

This was done as a scene about how gambling addiction can spiral out of control. These were all names and pictures of my friends and my brother. This is Pete. He owes Dutchie 100 bucks. He doesn't have the money, so he borrows 100 bucks from Paul with some interest. Now he owes Paul 130 bucks, and he still doesn't have any money because he's gambled that all away, so he borrows 150 from Trav, again with some interest. After another losing night, Pete now owes Trav almost $200.

What will he do? When will he stop? So, you know, I got to work with Mark Daly. Wow. And you got to direct him personally. No, I just, it was, you know, I faxed him a script. Okay. And then he sent me a little digital audio tape.

And then we synced it up to the visuals. But I spoke to him on the phone. I went for a coffee with him, and he was just the most lovely man. Like everybody says, he was just the nicest guy. No vibes at all. And I'm sitting there going, I'm so sorry to bother you with this garbage.

Like, this sucks. This is a waste of your time. But he was this guy that was so, you know, involved in policing and law enforcement. And he said, no, this is, you know, gambling addiction is a very serious problem. And, you know, Mike, to tie this back to what we were saying earlier about the issues of policing in the 21st century,

you know, Mark, because of his experience in Detroit and seeing all of that horrible stuff up close, he really believed that it was very important for the public to have a good relationship with law enforcement. And if he could be a bridge because he did have that local celebrity, he was more than happy to do that.

And he didn't even get paid to do this. That's what was so crazy. Wow. He did it as a volunteer volunteer now we're winding down here although these next couple of clips are pretty epic but uh i should let you know that when i was promoting that this was happening that uh you know ed retro ontario conroy was coming over and we were going to do a mark daily tribute if you will retrospective i started hearing you know these people would like the tweet and stuff and i saw these interesting people like uh you know ziggy thought it was tremendous and then cynthia mulligan was liking the tweet and a whole bunch of people who worked with the man were just so delighted to hear this was happening because it's true everybody who

seemed to come into contact with mark daly uh left with warm positive feelings about the man. Like everybody kind of loved the guy. And that is so rare in this industry where people are backstabbing and there's all kinds of drama and there's all kinds of bullshit. This was an old school, like a Jack Webb, like a Dragnet guy. He had it.

He knew how to use it. The funniest shit about him is how he would mess with uh you know the the young guys coming in the the new journalists and he would sort of make up stories and he would push it to see at what point would somebody say did that really happen like come on dude so i love that that he was he had this incredible sense of humor um you know I know you have people on here all the time. Dan Romer. People that worked with him,

and I love that you ask them about stories of him because I think it's very important that we celebrate, we continue to celebrate his contribution because clearly it touched so many people's lives. Absolutely. And I will continue to ask that question. I promise you that. Nice.

Did you want to, you have a ripping friends yeah so you know this was always funny too you get into the early 2000s and mark daly in addition to voicing all of these channels and all of this extracurricular police stuff he actually becomes a voice talent for cartoons. And he does a ton of stuff for Nelvana, who's kind of like our Walt Disney. So he's like a voice on Beyblade and Stormhawks and Metabots and all this crazy shit that unless you had a kid at that time or you were a kid at that time is probably meaningless.

But there's this show called Ripping Friends, which, I mean, you watched it with your kids. I watched it i watched my oldest the whole thing was just fart jokes all the time um but we have this little clip to give you a sense of his voice work as a cartoon guy i know how to defeat stinky butt how man how The secret lies in this can of beans. Enough of the riddles, man. Spit it out! Easy, fella. While we were fighting, I planted a miniature

camera on Stinky Butt, and I've been watching him in his lair. The reason he didn't finish us off was... he couldn't. He ran out of gas. Stinky Butt needs fuel in order to feed his unholy arsenal. This is where he gets his power. See where this is headed?

Yeah, go on, Craig. I'm with you. Crazy show. I remember watching, in fact, I wrote about it because I was so excited that Mark Daly was on the darn show. I think I wrote, James and I are ripping friends.

It's like an entry I wrote on TorontoMic.com way back when. But yeah, I watched that show. It's remarkable. And I think, too, when he passed, it was just such a shock because he had gone through treatment before and he'd done a segment about it for the for the city pulse news and then he he announced i think it was in september of 2010 that it it had come back and he was taking some time off and then the news broke two months later three months later that he was gone and i think the whole city went was just absolutely in shock because he was so young and he was so ubiquitous in all of our lives. And I don't think, as I said earlier, that we'll ever have a character

quite like that that does have such an effect, where I guarantee you, if you went out onto, yeah, onto Lakeshore right now and stopped 10 people, probably eight of them would know exactly who you were talking about. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. How old was he when he passed? He was 57. Wow.

Wow. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. So yeah, I think now is probably a good time, speaking of Mandela Effect, to get into the conspiracy theory about Mark Daly and his involvement in a certain Rush song. Maybe we should set it up before we play it so people know what to look out for. people know what to look out for the song is called subdivisions uh it's from 1982 i believe it's a brilliant song an absolutely brilliant video one of the first videos i remember totally and and i think revisiting that video now it really uh captures that kind of weird early 80s gray overcast hanging out in video arcades everybody's smoking butts

everything being kind of dirty um it really captures that vibe the song in the video but um i always when i would hear that song you you hear mark daly saying subdivisions okay i just thought that's what it was it always seemed like that's what it was and then the internet comes along and people start arguing and saying no it's not him and he would say that he got asked about it all the time and he would say no i it's not me it's neil pert or it's the story was always changing it was somebody else it was somebody else but let's play it play it out he doesn't it doesn't start popping in until i think past a minute but uh let's see what your listeners think We'll be right back. guitar solo Sprawling on the fringes of the city

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And the escape might help us through the unattractive truth. But the suburbs have no chance to sue the residents. And I'm 100% sure that's Mark Daly. Totally. It totally is. Totally is. And it comes back later, so I'll just bring it down and we'll chat a bit about this. And maybe if you hear it's coming in like five seconds, wave at me, okay?

And I'll bring it back up. Well, funnily enough, there is a guy called Scott Simpson, I think. He is a blog. Scott Simpson, I think. He is a blog. And a long time ago, he actually met Mark Daly and asked Mark Daly to say subdivisions into his recorder. Right. And he did all this like full on, you know, JFK back into the left Zapruder footage style analysis.

And he proved definitively that it is Mark Daly. My ears, I don't even need his analysis. I know. I mean, I can hear it. There's no one else with that timbre. And why wouldn't it be him? So that's where it gets interesting. And I'll tell you my pet theory. I think we can drop it down.

I mean, it's on YouTube. What do you mean there's a YouTube out there? This is the definitive. Okay, I can bring it down, but I'll bring it down nice and low so it doesn't. But let me hear you. Yeah, I mean, my theory on this is that music rights and publishing rights is a swamp. Okay, talking about Vietnam or prison. And I don't know what exactly happened if they

made an arrangement i don't think for a moment that mark daly went into a recording studio and said subdivisions i think it was sampled uh from an episode of city pulse because this is early 80s is right around the time that really the cost of sort of kit samplers really came down and rush you use samplers a lot it's sample you know a drum or a certain thing and people were sampling television right they would record a movie and they'd take a sample from a movie and yeah yeah songs and the interesting thing about city pulse back then is it would air you know there'd be the the seven o'clock the ten o'clock but then it would be that night's episode would be repeated the following day in the morning so if rush is sitting around

and they've got a song and it's in you know gestation and they they want to call it subdivisions and holy shit the crime reporter just said subdivisions we got to get that on tape and sample it they would have known to record it the next day and you see this is all before biz marquee and the whole paul's boutique the whole all the issues about copyright clearance so i think they sampled it illegally didn't get any kind of sign off from daily whether he he would have known it was him but he was such a playful guy he denied it you know he said it was multiple people over the years but a hundred percent it's him it's it reminds me a little bit about okay so i was a big maestro i still am a maestro fresh west fan and his second

album uh black tie affair I think it was called. There's a song on that album in which there's a sample of like a much music piece that has Michael Williams in it. I think he's talking about Maestro or whatever. And uncredited or like, again, not clear at all. And I remember watching much music one day and Michael Williams referenced this and said that it would have been nice to have been asked or something like that. But yeah, so

that was the thing to do, man. You sample some Moses property. Wild West. It's so like, we played those clips earlier of Mark Daly's delivery when he was reporting on crime stories. Subdivisions is a word. crime stories. And, you know,

subdivisions is a word. You wouldn't think, you know, you and I aren't going to be saying a word like that. But guy covering crime and trauma. Yes, and it does now that you say that. And I'm so glad that you said that because now it does sound like it's part of a new story that he's reading. For sure. Yeah, City for Homes. For sure. So, you know, maybe at some point, Getty

will come out and just say, okay, Jesus, you got us. We sampled them. When Getty comes on Toronto Mic'd, I'm going to just look him in the eyes and say, is that Mark Daly, yes or no? He's going to tell me the truth. Real talk. I'm going to get the answer here.

Man, I miss Mark Daly. And sadly, like you said, we lost him eight years ago. But that was a tremendous retrospective and tribute to the man. Well done. Thank you so much, so graciously for allowing me to come on here and for us to enjoy and your listeners to enjoy this incredible body of work that we keep uncovering. And there's lots more to come. incredible body of work that we keep uncovering and there's lots more to come and that brings us to the end of our 1170th show you can follow me on twitter i'm at toronto mike ed conroy is at retro ontario our friends at Great Lakes Brewery

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