Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Maureen Holloway Returns: Toronto Mike'd #464

Episode Date: May 15, 2019

Mike chats with CHFI's Maureen Holloway about what's new with her before they kick out the jams.

Welcome to episode 464 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Propertyinthe6.com, Camp Turnasol, StickerU.com, and our newest sponsor, Capadia LLP CPAs. I'm Mike from TorontoMike.com and joining me is CHFI Morning Show host, Maureen Holloway. Look at you with all those sponsors.

It's amazing you have time for a show. And that concludes episode 464. That's the goal. The whole show should just be sponsor mentions. And then we'll see who's tuning in. But thank you for coming by. It's my pleasure.

Second time. I told you at the door I felt a rapport already. We hugged. Yeah, we had a hug and I wasn't sure. I never assumed. Second time. I told you at the door, I felt like a rapport already. We hugged. Yeah, we had a hug and I wasn't sure. I never assume. Second time you hug. First time, firm handshake. Second time, hug. I don't know what's going to happen on the third time.

I can't wait to find out. I think we should book it before you leave. I'm just curious. Where do you go from the hug? I don't know. Maybe I get a... I don't know. Can you squeeze a bum cheek or something?

Well, like I said... This is a podcast you can't do that on in the radio business well that would be a first now the real talk begins yeah okay um so first and foremost how are you i'm really really good thank you how are you you look good uh there's no hair and makeup person here, but I see you on billboards all over the city and on commercials and stuff. Yeah, Rogers is a big believer in promotion, maybe more so than any other radio company. Okay, so I have people on from, I've had people in the past on from Bell Media radio stations

who were of the belief that Rogers stations promoted the personality. And at the time they thought that Bell Media promoted the station. Is that right? Is that typically how it worked? Well, when I last spoke to you, I had just left chorus and was just starting at Rogers. And I think it comes down to Julie Adam,

who's the vice president of, senior vice president. Who I've actually met. She's lovely. Yeah, she was very nice. She's amazing. And probably one of the most influential executives in broadcasting.

And she firmly believes in personalities. And so when you, the reason why you see her faces and her names everywhere, that is, I think, a direct reflection of her belief that people connect with people. You can listen to music anywhere,

but you'll listen to a certain station because you connect with the people. I agree 100%. Like, to me, it was always about the personality. And yeah, you're right, the music, yeah, the music, you have to dig the music. But what keeps you loyal and like listening to a station is that you connect with the personalities.

Like, you want to celebrate that. I think. I hope so. And this, this Julie Adam theory, it explains why like forever I would see Roz and Mocha on like a TTC buses and street cars. And like they were everywhere too.

And that's Rogers station. Yeah. They sink a lot of time and money and effort. And also Rogers has its own in-house production team. So the commercials, the television commercials, the stuff you see on digital is all produced in-house because we have staff that's dedicated to just that. So it's a real, well, it's a privilege,

but it's a real luxury that we afford ourselves. Well, let's hear one. Like I just randomly picked something with you and Darren. And it's Darren B. Lamb. This is your co-host. Yes, like Johnny B. Good. Right, right. Let's listen to this ad.

Today we have two special guests with us. Say good morning to Darren and Mo. Good morning, Darren and Mo. Outside her father's cottage. Who knows the capital of Ontario? I know. I have a bit of grey in your i know i have a bit of gray you've got that say good morning to good times with darren and mo weekdays on 98.1 chfi those were the kids we shot at a school last summer it was a degrees and we had to make believe it was fall. Oh,

those little kids were wearing, we'd had an outdoor scene and we were all wearing fall coats and it was like 35 degrees. But you, I don't know. It seemed like you were having a good time. I don't know. We were,

we were. I'm a little disappointed. Like now that we're friends and you came over, like you didn't have any, uh, CHFI coffee with you when I answered the door. Oh, right. Right?

Like that's the one I see. I couldn't find it on YouTube to pull it, but like it's on. Yeah. So like you don't really hand out those coffees just everywhere. That was just for the photo shoot. No, we don't. We don't catch the GO train. We don't take the TTC with our listeners, but not physically.

But I guess the idea is that we're there emotionally. I see. I see. Oh, yeah. Okay. So this is the show where you come on to tell the truth about, like truth, like behind the scenes real talk. So we appreciate that.

I want to tell people listening, though, if they want to hear the original deep dive with Maureen Holloway, I'm going to read the description and then tell people where to go so okay go to episode 217 so it was in this 217th episode mike chats with cfi chfi chfi morning show host maureen holloway about her years at 99.9 that's uh ckfm now virgin now virgin radio right because it was ckfm and then it was mixed 99.9. That's CKFM. Now Virgin. Now Virgin Radio, right? Because it was CKFM and then they started

calling it Mix 99.9 and now they call it Virgin 999. And then 15 years at Q107. Yeah, okay. Well, let me finish my little description here.

Come on, Maureen. Did I do something in between? No, go on, go on. Working with, yeah, John Derringer at Q107 and taking over for Aaron Davis

on 98.1. And that episode was an hour and six minutes probably because there was less sponsors. And you're back to we're going to catch up and then we're going to kick out the jams which is going to be awesome I think. I hope so.

Now I also was thinking just last week oh yeah that's where I was going. Now, I also was, like, I was thinking just last week. Oh, yeah, that's where I was going. Okay. So, I have seen lots of billboard advertisements for Jamar and Marilyn. Like, they seem to, this seems to be a Bell Media show where they're promoting the personalities. Yeah. Well, I can't really speak with the same kind of authority about what they're doing, but obviously they're promoting a new show.

They're copying Julie Adam, though. Well, I also think that they, again, and this is, you know, I'm talking about a competition here, but I think it was really important that they established that it's not Roger and Marilyn anymore. It's Marilyn and Jamar and introducing Jamar, who's actually been on the air for about a year, but it is a new show. So, yeah yeah so they're just building some awareness yeah uh full disclosure

Jamar was here a week ago today to kick out the jams a week ago isn't that funny because I did a panel during Canadian Music Week and Jamar was on my panel it was on diversity he was probably here first and then he probably went and how was Canadian Music Week? It was, so glad that you asked. It was a whirlwind. So a year ago, I was given the Rosalie Award, which recognizes Canadian. Congratulations. Thank you.

I'm sure I tweeted it at you. Well, that was amazing. Like it was always something that I didn't necessarily think I wanted until they gave it to me. I was like, oh yeah, this is cool. And did they like your who nominates you? Like you don't apply for that. Like people.

No, you don't apply for it. Somebody nominates you. And I'm assuming Julie nominated me because that sounds like something she would do. But and so they gave it to me. And then a year passed and then I had to pass on my tiara and my sash to a new recipient, having fulfilled my duties. So that happened last week. We had the Rosalie cocktail party.

And then again, you present during the gala, Canadian Music Week, with all the big stars. And I also hosted a panel for CMW. And Jamar was on that panel. Yes. And that's the diversity... Diversity and inclusivity panel, as we call it.

Okay, cool. Anything interesting come out of that? It was really good. So we had Jamar, as well as a number of, of young broadcasters from across the country. And,

you know, it was kind of an awkward thing because it's a delicate thing. What, what did they have in common? We had, we had Kevin and, oh my God, let me do this we had we had i'll fix it in post yeah we had missy from element she's an indigenous singer performer

we had uh peter cash from flow right and he's uh guyanese uh we had kevin and sonia from victoria kevin is age southeast asian and sonia is Indian. We had Jax Unwin from Virgin, who's an out, proud gay woman. Oh, with Adam Wilde. Yeah, but Adam wasn't there, because he's a white man. And we had Jamar. So everybody had some,

we were trying to think of how to refer to them, and we referred to them as underrepresented groups, or the other, if you will, if the, if the, the, the dominant,

um, you know, straight white male runs the business is the, the right mainstream. Then they're the other. And then we had Denise Donlan on is our expert on how, why it's, how and why it's important to hire people from,

from underrepresented groups. Yeah. Like she was amazing. She's amazing. She's been here, but I had her Oh, she'd be good. Yeah. She was amazing. She's amazing. She's been here, but I had her husband here like two weeks ago. Harry of Oglacola? Yeah. Oh, my God.

We're living in parallel universes. I know. And Murray, what a great episode, anyone listening. But it got overshadowed because like the next day, Gino Vannelli came on. Oh, wow. Look at the stars you're getting. Tell me about it.

He sat. Right here. You know what, though? Oh, my God. This configuration, Maureen, it's changed so many times that it was different when Gino was here and he was just here like, I don't know, four weeks ago or something. I don't know. Does he still drive a black car?

I don't care. At some point, I wish I should pull the clip, but at some point, uh, he, I was doing a lot of black cars questions and he told, he said, get off black cars already. Yeah. But you know, my age for people, my age, age we don't really remember i don't want to stop like that was 70s like so black cars was my first big like gino jam yeah absolutely okay so the diversity um it went well that it sounds like it went well and jamar he's a he's a good guy i mean he's i know he's competition uh but maybe this is a good chance, uh, for you

to do a little, like, do you want to do a little gloating? Like, cause I see these, I know you don't have to, I know you're very humble woman. Okay. When I stopped recording, it's not cool. It's not cool. Except I'm poking at it. So let me just say, I don't see these books, numerous. I don't, I'm not a, I don't know.

I didn't pay my, I don't, I don't get the books, but I see like 12 plus, like I guess I see like 12 and older men, women, and everyone over the age of 12. That's the total audience. So I see that. And I know that's not what you guys care about. No, you want your target. I think for Chum FM and for us, our target demographic is a female, say 29 to 54.

But I mean, we'll take whoever we can get. But that's where you'll sell your advertising rates would be based on that demo. Now what I saw made it look to me like you guys were kicking ass. Yep. And it shocked me. And I'm not Rogers or Bell. I love you all and hate you all equally. You do.

You do. That's true. Because Jamara can come on in the morning. That's the whole excitement about Toronto Mike. But it looked like not only were you kicking ass where you'd think CHFI might kick ass with a woman. Yeah. You looked like you were doing

really well with men. Yeah, so congrats. What's that about? Is that because you took the men all from Q and you took them with you? Maybe. I mean, I have a lot of, I mean, Q was a man station. I used to have women tell me all the time, oh, my husband listens to you all the time.

And now I have these same guys say, well, my wife listens to you all the time. But it's possible maybe they both are. So yeah, maybe we picked up some men from Q. Maybe CHFI, I always thought CHFI was a really mushy dentist office kind of station and then it's not.

It's cooler than that. It's a little cooler than you think. But maybe it got cooler with your arrival. I feel like it's morphed a bit. It has morphed a bit. You know what? I love Erin Davis and I've gotten to know her actually better

since I took over from her as you put it. But I actually didn't take over from her. I just brought myself there. And we pushed the envelope a little more. And some of her fans will probably tell you that I'm a little crasser and a little cruder, not as much of a lady. But you still can't swear on CHFI.

No, that's not, we can't swear anywhere. No, of course not. So yeah, this is my way of saying congrats. And I thought if you want to do a tiny, you don't have have to do like a we're kicking your butt chum or whatever like but you could do a bit of like uh well i don't mind telling you pump your tires a bit the biggest competition for both uh chum fm and chfi and i'll throw q107 and there is boom and uh boom with stew jeffries who just does a one-man show every morning with none of the support the resources that we have and so therefore does it a lot more cheaply and he's

crashing it you know why because he's singing along to the songs but with the live mic like i'm sure you sing along but the mic is muted or whatever not so much but i think you know you really got to give stew keeps everybody on their toes and toes. And that's a hell of a morning show. Okay, since you mentioned Stu Jeffries, I actually thought, okay, what active Toronto morning show people have kicked out the jams? This is not people who came on the show. There's a long list of morning people who come on Toronto Mic'd, but people who came back to kick out the jams. And you are number five. So I'm just going to drop the current guys.

And I'm going to do this in chronological order. So this is the order they arrived here in. Okay. Number one, Mike Stafford. Mike's a morning show guy now. Do you know that? Yeah, I know. Do you know Mike Stafford used to rent a room from my husband and me?

No, I know you worked with him at CKFM. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I had no idea. Yeah, I can't remember what the reasons were. I think he and his girlfriend broke up. And we had a three-bedroom house and no kids at the time. So Mike lived with us for a couple of months. That's as exciting as when I heard John Gallagher was renting a room off of Andy Frost.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. We all go back somewhere. So yeah, so you have Mike on. And that must have been pretty interesting. Yeah, he was good. He crapped all over John Lennon's Imagine.

Like he called it bad high school poetry and he went off on it, which I think a lot of people probably think that's sacrilegious or something. Did he have Frank on his list? Because he loves,

he does a mean Frank Sinatra impersonation. You know, I can't remember his list. He might, I don't think he had Frank on his list. I can't remember.

Because he used to, every company picnic, he'd pull out his Frank impersonation and kill it. Now, you know Mike better than me. Mike did his deep dive and he enjoyed it so much he came back to kick out the jams, which went really

well. It was a great connection. And it's later, fast forward, I had Lou Skeezes on to kick out the jams. Lou had just been let go from doing, he did business updates on 640. And I, I,

all I, the only, I never mentioned Stafford the whole episode, but at some point I asked Lou, I said, uh, have you spoke to Stafford since you got the news or something? And Lou replied with a no.

And that was it. Like we didn't, that was it. We didn't dwell on it. I didn't follow it. I was just asked it. Like I just do a conversation. I just asked it cause I was friendly with stafford and stafford was so uh

upset at that i brought him into this in that fashion that he went on 640 and called me a turd in his basement wow i hope you feel honored i just wish i had the clip like yeah but yeah so he he called me a turd in his basement and then uh he's a cantankerous old guy now, you know? I thought we were buddies, and now I'm like on some list or something. Wait till I trash you next week. As long as you get me the clip. I don't know. Who produces, what's your show called?

It's called Darren and Mo. Darren and Mo. Okay. How come it's not Mo and Darren? Because it doesn't sound as good. Because I guess, I don't know. You know what? Aaron pointed that out.

Because I've always been an and or with. Right? John Derringer with Maureen Holloway. And it's Darren and Mo. But Darren was there before me. So that only seems fair. Okay. So he was there.

I think Darren would agree with me. This is a very 50-50 show. Yeah. I'm not. Well, Aaron made a point. He's not the host and the co-host. No. We are co-hosts together.

We are 50-50, of course. Now, when Aaron was on, she actually was quite proud of the fact that when she came back with Cooper, it was going to be Erin and Mike. That means a lot to her. And you know what? It should. Because she made that point when I saw her recently that the woman always seems to come second.

But that is changing now. It is. And it might. And of course, he was there first, which makes sense. I don't think it would have been disrespectful. Is that the right word? It would not have been respectful for it to be Mo and Darren, considering he was there a year before me.

And also, if you say the two back-to-back in your mind, like Darren and Mo sounds better. It does. So that would be the deal breaker, I think, for me. So it's okay. So that's all cool. We got that figured out. Yeah, we're fine. All right. breaker, I think, for me. So it's okay. So that's all cool. We got that figured out. Yeah, we're fine.

All right. Sorry, I'm on number one, Stafford. Greg Brady, who is the morning show host at the Fan 590, which is also a Rogers station, he kicked out the jams. Good.

A lot of 80s. Stu Jeffries, the aforementioned Dynamo on Boom. Yeah. He kicked out the jams. Okay. And then Jamar McNeil. Yeah. He kicked out the jams. Okay. And then Jamar McNeil. Good company.

So this is going to be good. And you've got a nice, you got a good roster there. All of those people were very nice until Stafford called me. And even in the basement, I don't even, I'm not even mad at him. I just,

I'm, I think it's kind of neat. I just wish he just got the name of the podcast into the, uh, that would be nicer. But exactly. I know who the just got the name of the podcast into the, that would be nicer. Exactly. I know who the turd is. That's okay.

Now, um, I played the ad. I want to give you some gifts. So this is why you came. So there's a lot of gifts now. I know last time you were here, there was just the six pack from Great Lakes.

So let's start with the, uh, right. Okay. That's more than a lunch. Like this is like that's okay i the cough button's way over here so you're screwed on that one i'm fine there is like that's going to be leftovers that you're going to enjoy for a couple of more days i think it is is huge quantity try to lift it i want to see if you're going to be okay getting that to the car oh my god i might have to help you out

what are we talking about? That is a large vegetarian lasagna because you asked for a veggie lasagna, right? How come are you not eating meat? No, I'm not vegetarian at all, but I am trying not to eat red meat. Because the meat tastes better, I find. Oh, I agree.

I love red meat. I could switch it up. I have a lot of meat upstairs. I'm just trying to keep it to minimize my red meat intake. Smart, it's not good for you. Right, and it's not meat intake. Smart. It's not good for you. Right. And it's not good for the planet. It's not good for anything.

Right. You've talked me into it. I'm going vegetarian lasagna. Well, I'm assuming it's a good vegetarian lasagna. It's very good. Oh, it's fantastic. Because the sauce is amazing. So that's from Palma Pasta.

Go to palmapasta.com to find out their locations. They're in Mississauga and Oakville. They have a great new location, like 10,000 square feet retail store. They got a hot table. It Oakville. They have a great new location like 10,000 square feet retail store. They got a hot table. It kicks ass. It's called Palma's Kitchen and that's near Mavis and Burnham Thorpe. So go to palmapasta.com to find out that address.

And they're great people, Palmapasta. So enjoy the vegetarian lasagna. Okay, I want to point one out here actually. Let me see. Okay, that one so did you ever watch electric circus oh it's so funny because when we were talking we were on the diversity panel last friday and denise was talking she was of course the the general manager of much music at the time right and she was talking about how electric circus was one of those great um uh shows that broke down barriers.

Everybody watched it. Everybody wanted to be on it. Every, you know, social class, every color, every. And so here they've got to be. So that on the cover, that's the cowboy. Okay. That's cool. This kind of is a neat story.

So, and by the way, I'll forget people who don't know what we're talking about. This is a six pack of craft beer, fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery. That's the electric circus can, which I don't even think is available anymore in the retail store but i had like i got a i got a case delivered to me i got master t one yet last week since master t worked that much and there's one for you and basically that guy's the cowboy kenrick pompey Kenrick Pompey. He was an early dancer on Electric Circus. So he was a famous dancer. And his kids are Dalton Pompey, Blue Jay Dalton Pompey, who is with Buffalo now.

Yeah. Wow. That's his son. And his other son is going to be a major leaguer. His name is Tristan Pompey. Who knew? So there you go. The cowboy on that can.

Well, you knew. I knew. But I didn't know for a my can. Well, you knew that. I knew, but, and also, but I didn't know for a long time and then I knew and then now I judge people for not knowing. Yeah. See how it works?

Well, yeah. Then you get to be smug. Exactly. How did you not know that? So enjoy your Great Lakes beer. I will. And stickers. Stickers and that's temporary tattoos.

So. Am I going to be decked out this weekend? I can't wait to see the photos you tweet of you and your toronto mic temporary tattoos so yes temporary tattoos toronto mic sticker okay uh if you put if you have a bicycle or something i put mine on my bike i'm not gonna put on my car i guess you should put in your car let those let those fans of chfi know that there's also podcasts are available tell julie adam i will to name her price we can get toronto mic'd into the rogers Let those fans of CHFI know that there's also podcasts available. Tell Julie Adam. I will. To name her price, we can get Toronto Mike into the Rogers family.

We can negotiate. All right. Tell neighbor price. I do know she did have a deal of Humble and Fred back in the day, because that's how I got to know her. This is also from stickeru.com. So this is like a nice, I love Toronto. With CN Tower saying, I love Toronto. Piece of art okay

thank you mike thank you sticker you dot com if you need anything like that the decals up here are from sticker you dot com they're uh pretty fantastic so anything you can stick i say like stick you know stickers labels decals uh temporary tattoos. You can order one or as many as you want. Just go to stickeru.com to make your own customized stickers. I'm gonna. You are. Do you want to go into the time machine with me? Sure.

Okay, let's see how far back we're going. I have to remind myself. Are we kicking out the jams now? It's coming soon. Okay. It's worth the wait. Oh, I bet. Okay, 10, only 10 years ago.

So 10 years ago today, this was the number one song on the Billboard Hot 100. And I remember now, there's a long buildup to this song, but chime in once you can name it. Welcome. Welcome to the end. And it was number one for a long time. There is nothing left to fear.

Everything around you is changing. Nothing stays the same. This version of myself is not permanent. Tomorrow. I don't think the radio edit had this part in it. The energy never dies. Are we going full on explicit here? Energy cannot be destroyed.

I don't think there's an explicit in here. It always is. And it always will be. But it is the album. Right. Okay, I think it's coming. Yeah. Something's happening

Gotta get dip Gotta get dip Dip dip dip dip Boom boom boom Gotta get dip Boom boom boom Gotta get dip Boom boom boom

Gotta get dip Boom boom boom Gotta get dip Boom boom boom That boom boom boom That boom boom boom Boom boom boom Yo, I got that hit to beat the block You can get that bass on below Okay. What are you doing?

You want to wait for the chorus? There we go. She said the name of the song. Okay, that's Fergie. So this is the Black Eyed Peas. Okay. Which is going to be number one for many weeks until it's replaced by another song by Black Eyed Peas.

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And if you want 15% off your regular price watch battery installation, just go to a location and mention you heard about them on Toronto Mic'd. You get 15% off. Not one of your jams, but it should have been, Maureen. Come on.

When you were at CKFM, did you ever meet Gino Vanelli? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was he, like, what kind of, when you met him, was he? He was really, like, at the top of his game at the time and he had all that flowing black curly hair. Right. Both on his head and coming out of his shirt. Yeah, for sure. He likes to show off his curly hair. Right. And both on his head and coming out of a shirt. Yeah, for sure.

He likes to show off his chest hair. So he was at the height of his powers. That's like, is that the wild horses time? Yeah, that'd be about right. Long time ago. Long time ago. Are you a Toronto Raptors fan? I am today.

Yes. So is this like, are you doing the bandwagon thing? Are you just jumping on? Oh, well, my eldest son loves all things sports, and he should be a sports broadcaster. He knows more about every kind of sport. So, you know, what I know, I glean from him. But that being said, this is a really exciting time for Raptors fans.

So, yeah, I pile on. I'm a pennant girl. I'll show up if there's a title to be won. I've got a regular season. I'm all for it. Like I know some people like to judge people like you, like where were you during that? Well, you know what? I'm doing other things.

I know. What? You don't want me here rooting for you? To me, it's like the more the merrier, like come on board. Like I don't, I don't need, I did watch a lot of regular season Raptors, but I don't judge you for not. A lot of that is kind of, you know, yeah, tedious and you have other things to do. You're, you're a busy woman.

Like you're an in-demand Toronto star. You're a radio, you're a radio star. You're, you're a co-host, 50% host. I don't know how you say that. Of the most popular morning show in the city. Am I right? Maybe the country. Well, you know what?

It has to be the country. It might be. How could it not? We're like way bigger than it. How could it not? Exactly. I've just decided you are the biggest radio personality in the country. Yes, Mike, I am.

Oh my God. And here you are. That's amazing. Sitting in your basement with you. Amazing. Anyway, that's adorable, but not necessarily true. I feel like the numbers, that might be true. It might be. I like the fact

that we don't know for sure. I feel like only like 10 people have these PPM devices. And it's a really, really faulty methodology. It really is. I mean, they have 600 people that are supposed to represent a potential audience of

three million or four million so and if if a lot of them are getting their uh teeth clean that week yeah right that's right although you know what my dentist yeah my dentist plays q what and i'm like for god's sake i'm working for the perfect station so switch it over buddy they should be like aware of when your appointments are so they turn it to CHFI when you're coming there. That's very funny. Maybe they think you're still on cue. Who knows? There was a miscommunication.

A lot of people do. A lot of people do. Do you get that? And actually, you know what? I'm going to let Brian introduce this. I have a question about your level of fame as a radio personality. So let Brian do this. This is Brian from PSR Brokerage.

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if you are interested in the upcoming Galleria Mall condo redevelopment. Maureen, I read an article you wrote a few years ago titled Almost Famous, which happens to be one of my favorite movies of all time, and you referenced the ad and billboard campaigns that out you. You spoke about how given a choice, you prefer to stay under the radar, though the occasional reference to Sharon Stone you readily accept. Curious if there have been any others. What references to Sharon Stone?

Yeah, like I guess I'm also curious about people recognizing you from this big ad campaign. You know, I can't cut people off in traffic anymore or behave badly in restaurants. Yeah, I do get recognized a lot. But not in that, hey, you're Maureen Holloway. Part of the reason is because it's Darren and Mo. And so, you know, when I tell people my name, they don't necessarily make the connection.

But yeah, I have people squint at me. You notice it. You'll be walking down the street. How long have you had this hairstyle and coloring? This is my hair color. So that's your natural hair color. My hair, I have white hair. Is that white?

It is white. I just came from the hairstylist today and I have a rinse in it that makes it look a little blonder. But yeah, it is white. But I feel like you have a, now you have a like a signature look. Yeah, that's why i'm far more recognizable than i was when i had just regular hair it's very short too so people do recognize me but uh but you know we're canadians and torontonians and no one ever comes up and bothers me or anything it's just

that look they give me that knowing look well sometimes they don't know where you know they know you from exactly i think i i can see that too it's like where do i know her from and then you're wondering like is she like married to someone i work with yeah or yeah is she in a commercial like i sometimes say something i think they're in an ad i've been like because i watch a lot of sports and you get the same ads yes exactly so it's like i feel like i know these people from these ads i see it enough times and yeah okay so no one's ever harassed you like uh like that song that ariana grande song sucks i have one story where uh i think it was last year during another campaign and i was in kensington market and i was just exiting was in my car turning south on spadina there was a car a cyclist and a car a couple in a car middle-aged couple went through the red light

and almost hit the cyclist oh and they proceeded down south on Spadina and stopped at the red light. And I caught up with them and put down my window. And the wife, she was sitting in the passenger seat, put down her window. And I just went at them and said, you know, you just blew through a red light. You almost killed that cyclist. And the guy just sort of nodded. And I said, you know, what are you doing? Like, you could have killed somebody. And then the woman said sort of nodded and i said you know you're what are you doing like you could have killed somebody and then the woman said are you maureen holt yeah anyway i meant it your point is still valid yes because that cyclist could have been me and i

appreciate you doing that having our back out there it's hard out there so thank you very much uh when jamar kicked out the Jamar kicked out the jams, which we're about to do in a moment, one of his songs was a Michael Jackson song. And we played it and he shared his memories and he had a great jam he loved. And then I asked him about, and I'm asking you this as well,

so Michael Jackson is still being played on CHFI. Was there any talk of pulling it? We had a lot of talks about it and we were really of mixed feelings about it, but I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he's not with us anymore, so

he can't, you know, as opposed to Jacob... Dude, come on. You mean R. Kelly? No, no, R. Kelly. I can't. Joe Hogart. Oh, yeah, no, R. Kelly, I can't. Joe Hogart. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, who's going, who's actually going to court over accusations of sexual harassment.

Michael Jackson isn't around to defend himself. And it's sort of a question, the music is separate from the man, if you can separate that. He is one of our tentpole artists. And people love his music. And we don't know the full extent.

We don't know the truth. And we probably will never know the truth. I saw the documentary. I found it wrenching. But I stand by the station's decision to continue playing his music. Just like I will go and see Woody Allen. Certainly the Woody Allen movies of the past, which I love. Sure, like Annie Hall and all that.

Yeah, I mean, you can't take that away from him. And nor should you. Yeah, I mean, like yourself, I'm able to separate the uh the art from the art from the artist absolutely and appreciate the art without uh condoning actions of the artist or celebrating yeah i can totally separate the two but uh and that was what we talked about jamar too but uh naturally curious because some stations i don't know which, but I don't think any in Toronto, but it seems like you're playing them as much as ever, which is... If you start looking at people, not just musicians,

anybody, historical figures, and start judging them on things that they have done, even if they were incredibly heinous acts, we're not going to have very much to talk about. It's true. Or listen to. For all we know, Mozart was a pedophile. Well he wasn't. I don't want to start that now.

I don't know that he wasn't. Careful you get a libel suit on your hands right now. Right. Well the thing is we don't know so we should just enjoy the products of their efforts. And it's as I said to Jamar it's easy to not play Chris Brown

because his music's not that good. Michael Jackson's a tough, you said one of the 10 polls. Do you know the other nine? I need to know the list. Oh, sure. Pink would be another one. John Mayer, Ed Sheeran, certainly. For sure.

Oh, come on. You know what we play. Is Bieber on there? Yeah, Bieber. Yeah, yeah. But CHMI doesn't play Drake. Yeah, we do. You do?

Sure. I got to refresh my, okay.'t play Drake. Yeah, we do. You do? Sure. I've got to refresh my... We play Drake. We play ACDC. Not in the mornings, but, you know, play Bon Jovi. Cool. You'd be surprised. I am.

I'm listening. Yeah, I was surprised. You'd be too. I'm rooting for you. Remember that. Even if I'm not always listening, I'm always rooting for you. Well, that's all that matters, Mike. And I don't have a PPM device, so I would put it beside the radio with your station on it.

You say that to all your guests? 24-7. I'd have to, yeah, that'd be tough. Okay. Why is Mike playing Nanomascory? Yeah, why are you playing Nanomascory? I'm going to thank two more sponsors,

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She had the scientist eyes Telling me no lies Knocking me out With those American thighs Taking more than a share Had me fighting for air She told me to come But I was already there.

Cause the world started shaking, the earth was quaking, my mind was aching, and we were thinking of you. You took me all night long. Yeah, you took me all night long Walking double time on the side ACDC. What a way to start off the jam. Shook me all night long. So, why?

Tell us why, Maureen. Well, 15 years in rock radio, classic rock radio. I thought, you know you know i gotta pick something uh that kind of sums up that experience and it would either have been that or zeppelin because everyone whoever goes to work in rock radio particularly q107 wants lives for the moment where they can say zeppelin next uh but i picked acd, particularly this song because a few times when I'd be doing public events and they'd ask me, what song do you want

to play? I'd always pick this one because it's got one of the great intros. It was really fun to have 15 years. It was a real education in classic rock and some of the best music out there. So why not? ACDC. Everybody? No, the song kicks ass. Inspired choice. music out there. And so why not? ACDC. Everybody.

No, the song kicks ass. Inspired choice. I'm just looking at your list. Yeah, that's the... It's going to... This list is going to be all over the place. I can promise you that

right now. Have you ever seen ACDC live? I have not. You didn't even go to... I didn't go either, by the way, before I judge you, but Sarstock.

No, Sarstock, they blew everybody off the stage. I was well aware of it, but I was not there. Why didn't we go? We should have gone together. I don't know why I wasn't there in hindsight. I can't remember why I wasn't there, but no, I have not seen them live. I have not met any member of that. I've interviewed so many people, but still, it's an anthem, right?

It's a classic rock anthem. So what time of day does an ACDC song make its way onto CHFI? Probably Saturday afternoon. Yeah. Risqué. Oh, my. It's just a talk about kicking out the jams. But it was a staple.

I mean, I can tell you, I loved the guys in Rush, but I was totally fine never having to listen to a Rush song again when I left Q. Well, you know what we call Q107? We call it Q10 Zeppelin. This is the name. Yeah. Wow, that's a really good mix.

The two songs you will never hear played back to back anywhere but on Toronto Mic'd. Remember, you picked the order. I did. Well, no, I didn't pick the order. I just played the order you sent them. Oh, I sent them. Was that not by design? Right at the top it says in no particular order. I always skip pick the order. I just played the order you sent them. Oh, I sent them. Was that not by design? See right at the top, it says in no particular order.

I always skip reading the words. Can I ask you though? It's not chronological. I'm happy to maybe, actually, maybe I'll mute us now so we can just, you can tell me which one to play last. Because I find choosing the closer is a good idea. Unless I already played the closer. But here, let me do that.

Let's listen. On Clinton Street all through the evening I hear that you're building your little house Deep in the desert You're living for nothing now Hope you're keeping some kind of record. Yes. And Jane came by with a lock of your hair. She said that you gave it to her. On the night that you planned to go clear

Did you ever go clear? Last time I saw you This is Famous Blue Raincoat, covered by Tori Amos. It's off an album called Tower of Sound, which is a tribute album to Leonard Cohen. By the way, if you listen to this carefully, it sounds like Leo Serra's When I Need You. It's a complete rip-off of this song.

And it didn't occur to me until recently. Now, why did I pick this particular dirge? Before you tell us why, did you know you're not the first jam kick did I pick this particular dirge? Before you tell us why, did you know you're not the first jam kicker to pick this particular version of this song? Ed Keenan of the Toronto Star

also kicked out Famous Blue Raincoat by Tori Amos. Ed! Now, let's hear why you chose this gorgeous song. Oh, it is a beautiful song. If you need an explanation,

let's hear it. It's hard to talk over it. This is hard. if you need an explanation. Let's hear it. It's hard to talk over it. Just this night. All right. So Leonard Cohen. I grew up in Montreal and in my dreamy teenage years, I read everything that he wrote.

But I didn't know much about his music because nobody bought his albums because he was a terrible singer. But I was just totally in love with him. And then years went by and I had an opportunity to interview him. This was when I was at Mix or CKFM. Yes.

And he was the best interview ever. But he was promoting something nobody was interested in. But I interviewed him in his hotel room but he was promoting something nobody was interested in but i interviewed him in his hotel room and he was so charming and he was gorgeous and i thought he was ancient he was probably 50 at the time and i would have been like in my early 20s right and he had all the time in the world for me as he did for any not unattractive 20 year old woman and he told me this story about i said do you mind that everybody covers you and

nobody listens to you jennifer warrens had just put out famous blue raincoat at the time and he said uh told me a story he said he was um performing at a like the dylan at the island of sky music festival and he had laryngitis and he went to the stage manager and said i can't sing and the stage manager said none of you guys can sing so uh yeah he was he was unique and special and so i picked a cover because he would agree that other people sang his music better than he did he's a bit like uh bob dylan and uh dylan too like people seem to record dylan songs and yeah much better than he does but leonard cohen uh of course mr hallelujah which of course

everybody seems to go to the covers of that too uh i know whether it be katie lang or uh it was the guy who drowned uh sorry uh grace yeah jeff buckley yeah and of course rufus wainwright who is the father of his grandchild. Do you know how that connection is? Can you explain that one? Maybe you just broke my brain. All right. Leonard Cohen's daughter.

I can't remember her name. It's an unusual name, like Dorca or Orca or something. She was the mother of... So Rufus and his husband decided to have a baby. And so it's... I don't know who the actual father is often with same-sex couples, but she's the mother of, so Rufus and his husband decided to have a baby and so it's, I don't know who the actual father is often with same-sex couples but she's the mother. So Leonard Cohen is Rufus Wainwright's

baby's grandfather. Gotcha. Okay. There you go. I needed a whiteboard. I'll give you a diagram later. Was it, is it Leonard Cohen is his daughter a photographer? Yeah,

I think so. That might be. He has a son and a daughter and his son was spitting image of him. Okay. And also a musician. So I can't remember if it's Leonard Cohen. Maybe I got the wrong artist. Somebody's daughter took the Drake sitting on the CN tower for,

yeah, for the, for that album. That covers. Yeah. Yeah. Which, yeah,

which he renamed it. But yeah. He renamed it. Anyway. If only there was a way to find out. I know. But you know what? My phone is over there. So I'm like, I'm dumb again. Everybody can do their own research. That's a beautiful song. It is.

Leonard Cohen is a wonderful poet and songwriter and that's an inspired choice too. i'm really digging your jams maureen i just want you i don't say that to everyone it is eclectic i can tell you right now this is not most of these songs are not necessarily something you would hear on the radio at all anywhere no one's playing that they should no one's playing no one's playing tori amos's version of famous blue raincoat i had a big crush on toi Amos. A lot of guys my age did, but just get her on a piano barefoot.

That's it. I'm better than Tori Amos any day of the week. Okay, here's another Mojam. Mojam. Baby, don't make me spell it out for you All of the feelings that I've got for you Can't be explained, but I can try for you Yeah, baby, don't make me spell it out for you You keep on asking me the same questions And second-guessing all my intentions should know by the way i use my compression that you got the answers to my confessions it's like i'm powerful with a

little bit of tender and emotional sexual bender mess, yeah, but no one does it better There's nothing better That's just the way you make me feel That's just the way you make me feel Uh-huh, so good, so good, so fucking real Uh-huh, that's just the way you make me feel That's just the way you make me feel. Janelle Monáe, who I would argue is amongst the most talented artists out there, male or female. And she kind of plays with that whole gender thing as well although she's beautiful

I don't know why she isn't as big as Rihanna or Gaga because she's just as talented if not more so I particularly love this song because it's such an out and out tribute to Prince yeah I was going to say that sounds like Prince yeah after what it's meant to and if you saw her perform at the Grammys

she performed like Prince did yeah that's Prince, right? Yeah, yeah. Oh, absolutely. She's a really talented actress. Snappy dresser. She got it all going on. She can do no wrong. She can do no wrong.

Although I heard that she can be a very difficult interview. A challenge. Yes. Move over, Gino. Speaking of Michael Jackson, there's a Michael Jackson song called The Way You Make Me Feel. That's a different song. Yeah.

Well, she borrows from everybody, but just owns it, right? And this is an artist that would be played on CHFI. No, I don't think we play Janelle. We should. We should. But you know, the whole idea about CHFI is that it's got to be tested and true. I don't think we played Janelle. We should. We should. But you know, the whole idea about CHFI is that it's got to be tested and true.

We don't break new music. We'll certainly play the hell out of it once it's broken. Now we're not playing this right now. Maybe, I don't know why, because it's not out of place. Yeah, I'll have to get the radio edit for them. i heard a couple of f-bombs yeah luckily the crtc has no jurisdiction here So good, so good, yeah So, so good So, so good

That's just the way you make me feel All I can ever be to you Is a darkness that we knew And this regret I gotta question too Once you walked the ride When we were at our hide Waiting for you in the hotel at night I knew I had him at my match

But every moment we get snatched I don't know why I got so attached It's my responsibility And you don't owe nothing to me But to walk away I have no progress or taste He walks away The sun goes down

He takes the day But I'm grown And in your way In this blue shade My tears dry on their own I don't understand Amy Winehouse Amy, Amy, Amy, Amy

So what a complete and total loss And so that album came out I was going through chemotherapy Amy, Amy, Amy. So what a complete and total loss. And so that album came out. I was going through chemotherapy. So that would be, see, I've lost count. That's the good news. That is good news. That would be 14 years ago.

And my best friend was, her marriage was falling apart and she was in love with somebody else. And so we would sit and listen to that song with the whole album and cry um but i mean that was my personal connection to it but also she sounds like dionne warwick she sounds like aretha she sounds like all these fantastic r&b influences that she had but she was also so unique. She sounds incredible. Yeah, Amy Winehouse sounds like a throwback, but so contemporary. I mean, her big

breakout hit was, you know, Rehab, which a lot of people thought was a one-off, but then you go deep into her albums, and I don't think we haven't seen anybody like her since, but she was a mess from the get-go. And this is also my favorite Amy Winehouse song, by the way.

Tears Dry on Their Own. I need to know what happened. Obviously, Keeper Anonymous. But what happened to your friend 14 years ago? She got back together with her husband. Yeah. I couldn't sleep tonight if I didn't have a resolution there. Yeah, they got back together. Yeah. I'm not going to say anything more. Yeah, they go back together. Yeah.

That's it. I'm not going to say anything more. Yeah, it's okay. Yeah. That could be anybody. There was a happy ending for her and a happy ending for me

although we're hardly done but not a happy ending for Amy. No, Amy is in the 27 Club. I know. It's not weird. Although Shannon Hoon

from Blind Melon was 28 as I recall. I don't think he really deserves the same as Jim Morrison and Navy and all. I don't know. You know the video, well, the song Don't Cry by Guns N' Roses. Don't you cry. Of course.

He's singing backups. And in the video, he's on the rooftop doing backups there. Shannon Hoon. Really? Come on. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's a fun fact. I guess he was buddies with Axl, I think. Oh, God. Shannon Hoon. Really? Come on. I didn't know that. Yeah, that's a fun fact. I guess he was buddies with Axl, I think.

Oh, God help him. Axl. I saw Axl a couple of years ago. I saw him at this place called Air Canada Center. I saw Guns N' Roses and he did three plus hours. He had a lot of songs saved up for that long silence. That's right.

All I wanted to hear, was I the only guy who wanted to hear more Chinese democracy? Yes, you were. You were the only guy. Here is a throwback, Mo. Let's get this rocking. I'm going to go. I make no apologies for this. It's all good. I hate to spend the evening on my own All the weeds going outside the window As I look around the room And it makes me so depressed to see the room

There's not a soul out there No one to hear my prayer Okay. Abba. Like I said, no apologies. to the break of that day. Okay. ABBA. Like I said, no apologies. So the reason I picked this is twofold, I think. One of it is it harkens back. I grew up in Montreal.

I was a teenager in Montreal. Used to go to the clubs, underage all the time. And it was the late 70s, early 80s. We'd dress up to the nines, wait outside in freezing cold weather in high-heeled boots and thin leather coats and chain smoking to get into the club and then we'd dance all night and abba was huge and everybody everybody loved it and it was just packed in and i don't go to the clubs anymore but that was a really fond memory and

then then everybody forgot about abba and then they came back with Mamma Mia, which everybody loves. And it's sort of become an anthem for middle-aged women. But my son, my younger son, just directed Mamma Mia for Victoria College. And so all his buddies, all his musical theater buddies,

they're gay, straight, male, female, they all love ABBA. And so they know all, If they were here right now, they would drop everything and just do a dance number for you right now. Why didn't you bring them? Because they're busy. They have summer jobs.

So I should tell you right now, my son Ronan put this list together. He said, these are your 10 favorite songs. Really? Yeah. And you're not going to be surprised by any of these songs. I'm not going to be playing a song

and you go, what song is that? No, no, no. I had a list and he said, no, these are the ones that kind of represent you. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. There's no, like, to me, there's no, I'd rather you were authentic. Like, I don't care if there's what you'd call guilty pleasures. There's no guilty pleasure.

I strongly stand behind all my choices. Good. Or Ronan's choices. Sometimes I think maybe, I'm just speculating. Sometimes guests want it to be a cool list. This is so uncool. This obscure Tom Waits song. This is the song.

I love that stuff too, but I mean, being in radio, I kind of understand it's important to connect through music rather than just say, this is how cool I am. Right. Because there's not a lot cool about this song, but it brings you joy.

Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. It's so uncool. It's cool. Exactly. Yes, exactly.

And, oh yeah, you want to do a little dance? No. We have a little moment here. I won't dance. Don't ask me. They remade that movie,

right? No, they did a sequel to it. Oh, a sequel. With Cher playing Meryl Streep's mother. Was it good? I didn't see it.

I just assumed you were there opening night. No, I have not. But I hear it's very good. But I did see the movie with Meryl Streep. And yeah, that was pretty good, except none of the men could sing. Oh, that's one of James Bond? Yeah, Pierce Brosnan.

Pierce Brosnan, yeah. What's James Bond doing at a tavern in Greece? I remember that. I remember that. Now, just looking at your list, so far, unless I count songwriters, in which case you'd get a point for Leonard Cohen, but so far, your list is not very Canadian.

Oh, well. No judgments. But the next jam might reverse that a little bit. But I don't judge. I don't judge people's jams. I've never judged a jam in my life. The Wind is in from Africa Last night I couldn't sleep Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here, Carrie

But it's really not my home My fingernails are filthy I've got beach tar on my feet And I miss my clean white linen And my fancy French cologne Oh, Carrie, get out your cape And I'll put on some silk Oh, you're a neat old daddy, but I like you.

Joni Mitchell. Well, come on. Come on. Joni Mitchell has always been there. But I love her with all my heart. Maybe, again, one of the coolest people you ever want to meet and one of the most talented. There's not much you can't do.

My brother moved to Germany 25 years ago, and he would play Joni Mitchell in Die of Homesickness, whether it's The River or Case of You. Helpless. Oh my god. She wrote some of the best songs ever and was recorded by other people. Neil Young and Crosby and Stills and Ashen. And she, to me, even though she's lived in

Los Angeles now for most of her life, is a quintessence. She sounds like Canada to me. Yeah. Just love her. And even better in the headphones, right? Do you find? Yes. Well, music's better in headphones, right?

You know, I mean, everything she's done, like she went into Mingus, did a tribute to Charles Mingus. But most people know her from Love Actually. Is that right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, because that's such a hugely popular movie. And in it, Alan Rickman buys his wife, Emma Thompson, a Joni Mitchell CD when she was really hoping for a piece of jewelry. Breaks her heart because he bought a piece of jewelry for his mistress.

You know, I've only seen that movie once, but I do remember the Joni Mitchell reference. But great. Amazing. I mean, I'm so happy with your list. Here we are with some Joni Mitchell reference. But great, amazing. I mean, I'm so happy with your list. Here we are with some Joni Mitchell. And you mentioned the river. I can cry listening to the river. What a song that is.

It's a mournful, mournful song. To me, it's like one of the best Christmas songs ever. I had a river, I would skate away. Yeah, well, it brings in like a Christmas song in there. Right? There's like a melody in there at some point of i don't know which christmas christmas song it is again but uh jingle bells or something but in carrie there's a line my husband kids me a lot because he's much more

an outdoorsman than i am but i'll go along i'll do i'll rough it if i have to but he always says that you miss your clean white linen and your fancy french cologne don't you yes i do you're a mean old daddy that's right but i love you so yeah awesome joni mitchell and uh let's kick out another jam I was clean with Petra I was young and an actress When you knelt by my mattress And asked for my hand But I was sad, you asked it As I laid in a black dress

With my father in a casket I had no plans And I left the footprints The mud stained on the carpet And it hurt like my heart did when you left town. But I must admit it, that I would marry you in an instant. Damn your wife, I'd be your mistress just to have you around. But I was late for this

Late for that Late for the love of my life And when I die alone When I die alone Die I'll be on time Ah Lumineers So

I don't I hate talking over the songs that I love, but you can listen to all of it on your own time. I love songs of regret. Particularly songs that are uplifting, but also are of regret. I love this song. I love everything they do, but I also love a man singing from a woman's perspective.

So, my younger son, Ronan, who is the musical director, he came home one day and he said, have you heard the new Lumineers? And I said, no. And he said, neither have I. Let's put it on. And he put on Cleopatra.

We both had our backs to each other and we looked over our shoulders at each other. Both of us were in tears. Oh, I love that story. The song is about, you know, what could have been, right? I think. No,

I, I'm, I'm going with you on that one. For sure. For sure. you'll notice a lot of like famous blue raincoat. We're going to play something from the December is coming up. These are all songs that are tinged with regret.

And there's something, you know, I like to cry. It's like melancholy and infinite sadness or something. There's a comfort in being sad. I think that's what Kurt said, right? Yeah, exactly. You have a good relationship with these boys of yours.

Oh, I do. That's why I like it. If I did nothing else, I did that right. That's how I feel. That's how I feel. Sometimes I think like, you know what, if everything else went to shit or whatever, like I'm so far,

four healthy, happy, well-adjusted, likable humans. Kind. You hope that they grow up kind, if nothing else. And the jury's out on a couple of them

because they're so darn young. But a couple of them, like I feel like they are now, the character that they are. One's almost going to be 18 soon. Yeah. And one's going to be 15 this summer. And they're both like kind wonderful

sweet people and i think you know what on you that's it like the rest is all just whatever it's whatever it's the most important thing i'm so glad we're having this talk like yeah absolutely i i love my boys and you know i mean like anybody else that we have our moments but you know they're i'm gonna get all choked up here no do it i'm so enormously proud of them and i mean they are very successful and you know good looking and intelligent and and they have lovely girlfriends as well and my love like daughters but yeah that's that's the most important thing and really the rest of this like fuck it like you know what i mean like that's my most important job and that's everything.

Yeah. So I don't have any, although I love songs about regrets, I don't have too many and I certainly don't when it comes to them. You never stop worrying about them either. It doesn't matter whether they're three like your daughter. Right. Or 26 like my,

my eldest son. And those paying attention will remember that when Maureen Holloway came the first time to Toronto Mike, we took a photo with you holding Morgan. I almost ate her alive. She's so adorable. You know, she's much cuter now than she was then. Keep her away from me. I didn't want to give her back.

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And loaded in two princes. Right. And assumed it was the studio version. I never listened to it because I only had... Of course it's the studio version. What is it? Was that Muppets, do you think? It sounded like Muppets. So this is Spin Doctors on Sesame

Street. Okay, this is my kid's fault then. That's hilarious. Okay. That's so bizarre. I was like, wait a minute. It sounded a bit different. No, this is Spin Doctors when they appeared on Sesame Street, which was not what I think.

That's Oscar. I apologize. No, don't, because this fits in perfectly with our conversation. Okay. Let's bring it down. Complete accident there. So, again, this is getting back to my boys. It's okay.

I was like, are you hearing, am I hearing this in my head or is Maureen hearing this too? I didn't know what was going on there. So when Aiden was born, he was born in 1993. And this was a big hit. Yeah. And so I had my little prince and I knew I was going to have another at some point, but I was pretty sure I was going to have another boy. So I, and this song was popular. Yes.

And so I have two princes. That's what we always call them, our golden boys, our two princes. Perfect. But I never really thought the Sesame Street version was the one I was going to go down in history as having one. My top song. Right. She's a big Muppets fan.

If the second one had been a daughter, Little Miss can't be wrong. Yeah, exactly. My older son will tell you that my younger son is the daughter that we never had. Little Miss can't be wrong. That's me, by the way. Little Miss can't be wrong.

I rarely butcher the jams like that, but I didn't... I guess this, I guess the kids enjoyed this at some point. And, you know, have you ever, I mean,

you, you've got kids of all ages, but I do love it when the guests, uh, musical guests on Sesame Street are on, because they have the coolest people, you know, they've had Goo Goo Dolls,

they had Feist on. I like how you said the coolest people ever. And I'm like, who's she going to name? And Gugu dolls. That's amazing. Yes, Buffalo's on. Yeah.

Sesame Street's got, I mean, wow, they don't have the same level of coolness that you get. Well, please, you know. Dave Grohl. I mean, amazing. I don't want Dave Grohl. I want Maureen Holloway. That's how I roll here. Although Dave Grohl was here last week talking to his mom.

Did you get in there to see some of that? I know I was too busy doing other stuff, but I never get a chance to see any of the Canadian Music Week events that I'm not involved in. When will the Canadian Music Week look at podcasters? Oh, that's coming up. Are you going to have to be honest with me? Are you going to have to be one of those Rogers productions?

No, no, no. Or Bell Media or Chorus productions? Well, you see, the thing is anybody can do a podcast, including you. That's true. I'm evidence. Yeah, you don't need to buy a radio station or have all that expensive equipment. And I really do think that podcasts, since we're talking about it, are the future of broadcasting.

I really do. Radio may take different forms and formats, but podcasts, I think, are because anyone can do them and you can listen to them anytime. Well, anyone could and formats, but podcasts I think are because anyone can do them and you can listen to them anytime. Well, anyone could do them, but like anything else, like only good at it, right? Like no one's going to listen to a crappy one. Like you have to offer something. People, there's a lot of options out there. I heard there's 700,000 podcasts right now. And how many do people listen to? Right. Yes. I always wonder like how many of those 700 000 for example get you know get to 1000 unique listeners right right and how many of them get to like episode 50

even you know what i mean like i would love to see a lot of podcastings like i did a series for rogers called three trips ahead which was sponsored it's a travel podcast but they all exist in in the ether you can download any one at any time, and hopefully the information is still relevant. And so it's like streaming television, right? It's on demand. It's on demand. And as it gets easier to,

and I know this is bad news for Trust Your Radio, but I think you guys are doing okay at CHFI. But as cars, like I have a 99 Protégé where I listen to the radio, and it's because I don't want to put money into like a new stereo to do Bluetooth. I don't have any Bluetooth connectivity or anything in there. So I just turn on terrestrial radio. Bless you.

Yeah. Yeah. But how many cars on the road right now cannot with one button have like, when I, when my wife has a car with Bluetooth button and when I have the teenagers in that car, they take turns whose phone who's the dj like there's no radio being played it's they take turns playing their mixes or

whatever their playlist exactly no no that this is uh this is a very i don't i don't dread the end of the golden era of radio that may have come and gone several times i think we'll always need content they'll whether you're listening to me or you on a radio or on a podcast or, you know, through some other platform that hasn't yet been invented, we'll always have a need to connect with a human voice. Right. And content, at the end of the day, content is king or queen, if you will. Okay. Right. You've told me and no one can know because it was a secret conversation.

I know what your last jam is. So that leaves this one as our second last jam. Ah. Okay. Here's a hymn to welcome in the day Heralding a summer's early sway. And all the bulbs all coming in. To begin.

Thrush's bleeding battle with the wrens. Disrupts my reverie again. Pegging clothing on the line. Training Jasmine how to vine Up the arbor to your door And more Standing on the landing with the war You shouldered all the night before Once upon it

yellow bonnets garland all along you were waking day was breaking a panoply of song and summer

comes to Springville Hill A barony of ivy in the trees I think that's the Decembrist, that's June hymn. I think it's one of the most lyrically beautiful songs ever written. I love the Decembrist. Now, again, getting back to, I'm kind of a folky, I'm kind of an acoustic person,

and I love these songs that are tinged with regret. And this is a song, I mean, I love listening to it right now because it's summer about to come. But there's something melancholy behind it. And there always is, you know. The Decembrists are one of the most eclectic, esoteric bands you ever want to,

and also highly prolific. And I love them. I went to see them at the building I still call the O'Keeffe Center. Sony Center for the Performing Arts. Yeah, and I went, my husband and I went with our younger son and his girlfriend. They put on such a show. Nobody plays the Decembrists, but they're so incredibly talented. And that's an amazing venue to see a band like that.

Yeah, yeah. So the song's called June Hymn. And yeah, if you listen to it lyrically, it's just exquisite. And it's something to listen to this spring while you're wishing that summer would come to Toronto. When it started, I was worried the Muppets would show up. I was like listening. I don't think they were ever on Sesame Street. This sound, harmonica, I always think of Neil Young.

Well, as musicians, the Decembrists are phenomenal. There's a woman in the band, I don't know. I just, but yeah. Well, they have a, they, as musicians, the Decembrists are phenomenal. There's a woman in the band, I don't know her name, who can, when I watch them live, she could, she played every instrument known, every stringed instrument known to man or woman.

They're, they're phenomenally talented. And so I sing their praises. I even like the title, June Hymn. Like it's a nice title for a... Yeah. And you were waking

The day was breaking A panoply of song And summer comes to Springville Summer comes to Springville I love it. I do too. All right, one more jam to go. How has it gone for you? It's going to be such an abrupt turnabout here.

That's true. That's okay. Now, when your son came up with that 10, did you say, here's my 20 favorite songs? Yeah, I had about 25. Well, I mean, I love music. I play the piano really badly, so I was going to give you some Debussy

because I performed that once at a recital and it was so bad people thought I was playing with oven mitts. Literally, I had people come up afterwards and say, did you even practice? Oh my goodness gracious. So I was going to put that on. Like I said, I like music of all kinds. And so yeah, it was very, very hard to come up with 10.

And these are certainly not my 10 favorite, but they're amongst them. I would say that at the moment this it was very, very hard to come up with 10. And these are certainly not my 10 favorite, but they're amongst them. I would say that at the moment this list was assembled, these were 10 of your favorite jams. And then it's fluid, right? Like anything else, moods and different things. Now it's called June Hymns, the song we just heard. And this is an opportunity before we kick out the last jams

for me to tell you and everybody about my event. Okay, I know you guys at CHFI have lots of events. Yes, we do. Of course. And I don't have a lot of events, but my third one is coming up on June 27th. So it's called TMLX3.

TMLX is Toronto Mic'd Listener Experience. Okay. Okay. So hopefully weather permitting, it'll be on the patio of Great Lakes Brewery, but if not, they have a nice room inside. If the skies open up and we get some rain, we can go inside. But basically from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m., we got a band that played the first two TMLXs, the Royal Pains. They're going to play some 90s and 80s, mainly 90s jams. They're great.

They play a good Oasis or they go back to the 80s and do some Guns N' Roses, but they play like Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden. They play some great 90s stuff. And then I'm going to make my tremendous speeches at about 7.30, but then, you ready? You're sitting down, right, Maureen?

I am sitting down. I think this is cool. The Lowest of the Low will play live at this event. Now, The Lowest of the Low are one of my favorite bands of all time. Oh, they're very low. They're very low. And their album, Shakespeare My Butt, is one of my favorite albums of all time.

Albums. I've been told I say album wrong. How are you supposed to say it? Album. Album. Right, but I say album, like pablum. That is wrong. I know.

I think I did it right this time. I'll have to go back to the recording. But I want everyone listening and yourself, Maureen, of course, bring your boys, even bring your husband. That's okay, too. Bring everybody because your first beer is on the house. There's no cover. We just hang out with listeners and former guests and have a great time listening to

great music. And it's fantastic. So June 27 from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m. at Great Lakes Brewery. Are you ready for your final jam? I am. She take my money. Well, I'm in need. Yes, it's a trifling friend indeed.

Oh, she's a gold digger Way over time That digs on me Now I ain't saying she a gold digger But she ain't messing with no broke niggas Now I ain't saying she a gold digger But she ain't messing with no broke niggas Get down, girl, go ahead, get downas Get down girl, go ahead, get down Get down girl, go ahead, get down

Get down girl, go ahead, get down Get down girl, go ahead Cutie the bomb, met her at a beauty salon With a baby Louis Vuitton under her underarm She said, I can tell you rock, I can tell by your charm Far as girls, you gotta flock, I can tell by your charm And your arm, but I'm looking for the one Have you seen her?

My psycho told me she'll have an ass like Serena Train her, Gina, for Lopez Four kids, and I gotta take all they badasses Showbiz, okay, get your kids But then they got they friends I put up in the bins They all got a bin We all went to den

And then I had to pay If you fucking with this girl Then you better be paid You know why? Take too much to touch her From what i heard she got a baby my buster my best friend said she used to fuck with usher i don't care what none of y'all say i still love her now i ain't saying she a gold digger but she ain't messing with no broke niggas now i ain't saying she not the radio edit but uh no that's your but as i say there's a good version i don't like the radio edit. No, that's your explanation. But as I say, there's a good version. I don't like the radio edits on this show.

If you don't need to play it, then you shouldn't. Because the artist obviously... Great jam. This is Gold Digger by Kanye West. With Jamie Foxx. Right. Want to know why? Tell me why.

Again, parenthood seems to figure largely so when like my kids got older they started downloading music themselves and would end up in my collection right right so i'd have you know i'd go from james taylor to and i came downstairs says why what was this and they said that's connie west So I was like, oh, he's good. And since then, they kid me. They say, mom, I say, oh, I love that Kendrick Lamar. And they say, name one song that he's done. I'm like, I don't know, but I like him.

And so, yeah, Kanye was one of those. I think he's a genius. I think he's a very troubled man. Yeah. But, yeah, I just love this song. I love almost everything he does. I hate his personal life. I hate, I think he needs help.

Um, but yeah, I have a lot of explicit lyrics in my collection. Thanks to having two kids. This is one of those songs. Cause I like to rap to songs in the car or in the shower or whatever. And this is one of those songs where you can't rap the whole song. You gotta self-censor at parts. But I will say I'm like you. I, uh, I kanye all the time i think he's a musical genius i do too have you think he's a personal disaster but i think he's

a musical genius he makes it harder and harder to defend him like uh he always does these things and i shake my head and he'll put on the make america great hat again and say something stupid and i'll be like yeah it just makes our job harder it does we we want to love you and then you do these things he has an album I always butcher the name of this My Twisted Fantasy it is genius it's wall to wall unbelievably

well produced and it's unbelievable it's one of the greatest rap albums of all time I love it I have all the time in the world for kanye even his new stuff and uh ultra light beam for example is that what it's called that's not anyway uh yeah i think he's fantastic and that jam is just great fun you know it is great fun and uh yeah so i just thought i'll never be able to play that on the air. So I thought I'd get you to do it. Speaking of lowest of the low,

we're playing it with Rosie and Gray from Shakespeare in my butt as every episode has concluded. Fantastic. That was fun. I was going to say that was like amazing fun. I just love hearing the songs you love and hearing why you love them. And it's just way too much fun. We ran the gamut of emotions.

We laughed, we cried. I played the Muppets. Well, it's the mistakes we'll remember with fondness when all is said and done, I think. So I'm kind of glad I did that by accident. But thanks for coming by. We'll get you by when Morgan's like five. I think that's when you come back. It'll be harder by when Morgan's like five. Oh, yes.

I think that's when you come back. It'll be harder to eat her then, or more of her to eat. She's so cute. She'll be really sassy by then, I'm sure. We'll see. I'm sure. And that brings us to the end of our 464th show. You can follow me on Twitter.

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Well you've been under my skin For more than eight years It's been eight years of laughter And eight years of tears And I don't know what the future Can hold or will do For me and you But I'm a much better man for having known you

Oh, you know that's true because Everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow won't stay today And your smile is fine and it's just like mine and snow won't stay today and your smile is fine and it's just like mine and it won't go away cause everything is rolling