Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Metal Jams #TOAST48: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1833

Episode Date: January 14, 2026

In this 1833rd episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 49th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette as they kick out metal jams for Bob's 50th birthday. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought... to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Just toast. I'm going to think about it. F-O-T-M's. Do you know what time it is? It's... Two, two, one. Toast time. Toast! You guys know that there was something going on on the street there?
Starting point is 00:00:21 You know, I felt like... I spent there since last year, though. I had to come up with something different than just yelling. You guys are so funny. That's why we're here. That's why Bob... Otherwise, you would not have us here. He took an improv class and you can tell.
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Starting point is 00:01:35 And Redley Funeral Home. Pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today for this 49th episode of toast. It's Bob Willette. Weird. And Rob. Wow. Happy New.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Happy New Year. Come on. Jimbo, please. Well done. And out comes Bimbo. And here's Bimbo. Introducing Bimbo, the birthday clown. And the son of happy.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Here we go. When this is over, and I have some more headphones, please. Not right now. Happy birthday to Bob Willett. How close are we now? A few days. Sunday. Sunday.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So I'm turning to you. Oh, look at you. You have to wear those on Sunday. Do I have to show my boobs? He's giving me beads. You don't have to wear them today, but maybe Sunday. So, Rob, your headphones might go up when I do this. Okay, let me know.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Let me know. Is your headphone going up? Yes or no? Yes or no. Yes or no. Yes or no. Okay, that's the wrong guy then. How about this guy?
Starting point is 00:02:49 There we go. That's what I want. Do you want more? Yeah, no, that's good. No, that's good. No, that's good. Yeah, this is good. Because this is a metal episode.
Starting point is 00:02:56 Yeah. You want it louder? You want it louder. Yeah. Bob Willette. So in mere days, in fact, in five days, you will be the big five-oh. I will. Not great about it, to be completely honest.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I'm not, you know what? There's just been, yeah, decade birthdays haven't really ever bothered me before, but this one's like, it's something. I don't know what it is, but it's something. And to be honest, there's just, we had a, we had a, we had a death in the family. Oh, and I was we had a funeral yesterday. Oh, sorry. Yeah, actually, Uncle Phil's sister, Laura's aunt.
Starting point is 00:03:29 My heart stopped for a moment because I thought you were going to say Uncle Phil. I can't afford to lose a listener. No. No. Her name was Patricia and she was only 56 years old. Yeah. That's too young.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Way too young. It's younger than Rob Pruth. It's way too young. And now we're fostering her two cats on top of my cat that I have. And there's some other fine, fun family drama right now that's just kind of put the birthday
Starting point is 00:03:57 kind of like in the back. Like it just doesn't seem like much right now. I wasn't jazzed about it to begin with. Well, this might help you get through it if you got other things to focus on. I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll see. So, uh, but thank you.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Yes, I, uh, I appreciate the birthday wishes and I appreciate the beads. That's very kind of you. Um, yeah. So we'll see. I don't know. I actually haven't even talked about it on the air on the radio yet. I've talked about having a significant birthday. I just haven't talked about the number yet.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Listen, kid. I know. I know. I know. People see your photo on social media. They assume it's the. big six oh yeah there you oh wow hey now hey now no i am i am i feel good that when i tell people because i'm the old guy in the station for sure right uh outside of the owner um i uh and and joe and
Starting point is 00:04:42 and mimico jo um right he's older than you he's older than me but other than that all the on-air people i'm by far the oldest and uh um the good thing is when people find out how old i am uh they seem shocked, which is good, because they, and they think that I should be like, like early 40s, not, not leaving 40s. Like 44. No, I don't know, like, I'm going to say 42. Let's go with 40s. That's the answer to everything, right?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Isn't it? I just listened to, um, I just listen to Smartless, the new year with Ricky Jervais. And Ricky was recollecting when he first met Jason on the set of some film. And they were in the dressing room talking and Ricky asked, was talking and asking Jason how old he was.
Starting point is 00:05:23 And Ricky said, oh, you must be at 40 and Jason was totally insulted because he was like 37. Oh, Ricky was basically given a hard time saying, oh yeah, really, you're 37, you could be 40. Right. That's not that big of a deal. No, no, no, no. So you, because Ricky, you know, he's like 65 now or whatever. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He's, uh, yeah. Just a little older than me. What movie was that Teen Wolf 2? No, Team Wolf 7, I don't know. I don't know what movie they would have done together. I think it was called. It was the invention of lying. Oh, I've seen it. Yeah. But I don't know. It actually wasn't very good. It was okay. But I don't remember Jason's saying it wasn't very good. Yeah. But I like
Starting point is 00:05:54 I've never seen it. No. So I've never even heard of it. So. But I do like Ricky on Smartless. He's good. That's another podcast though. We won't talk about that.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Well, you can talk about other podcasts. Okay. So anyway, I can't compete. Listen, this is an independent Canadian podcast. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:07 When it comes to Smartless or I saw Amy Polar one. And, you know, all these big, big celebrity American shows. Like, it's a whole different league. Like,
Starting point is 00:06:16 if that's your cup of tea, you're not listening to some guy in his South Atobical basement, kicking out jams. No. Geneal Denelli. Well, and,
Starting point is 00:06:23 that's right. Boones and Honeymoon's sweet keyboard is Rob Prunes. That's right. No, Smartis is a whole other world, but it was interesting because this was the first repeat guest they've ever had.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Ricky was the only second, the only two-timer. Yeah. Interesting. That's a whole different concept for them as well, because they're always pushing shit. Did you ever see the show Derek?
Starting point is 00:06:40 Yes. Good show. And did you ever see it? No, Edwin' Paulum. I just wondered have you seen it. Very astute observation. And what's the one about
Starting point is 00:06:49 when his wife dies and he's mourning her? Oh, that's, life for something? Life's entertaining. Take. Life goes on. Shed out.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Life goes on. That's corky. That's corky in the juice bags. Corky and Corky's sister had a pretty long arc on ER. I won't spoil what happens there, but it's kind of memorable. I just watched my very first episode of Law and Order today. Wait, which one? The original?
Starting point is 00:07:12 No, it was season eight. My niece was watching it with my mom. I've never watched an episode. I used to watch it at 11 o'clock every night on Arts and Entertainment Network, 80. And I did that for years. Yeah. And I loved it with Logan and Briscoe. I never seen until you love that show the first five years.
Starting point is 00:07:29 It's not bad. It's so dated. It was this episode, season eight was 1997. Oh my gosh. It's unbelievable. Like the acting is so, you can notice the difference 30 years later, like, of how they were acting. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's crazy. The style of acting is changed. And also the shots for sure. Oh, yeah. The whole. That's just before that golden age of television started, right? That, you know, the sopranos, the wire, the, all those, like, you know, 97. Six feet under.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Six feet out. And that same era. And I'm still, I'm making. my way still through Will and Grace, which I'd never seen in the beginning. So it's so funny to see the things that were getting big laughs in those days. Like, ooh, they're like laughing about rainbow flags and like the first show to talk about like, like, like gay things and humor. And it's funny the things that all of a sudden people are like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:08:08 One of the first gay character I ever saw in television? Yeah. Soap. Oh, sure. What was his name? That was Billy Crystal. Right. It was Billy Crystal.
Starting point is 00:08:15 That was the first gay character I ever saw on. What about Paul Lind, the center square? I don't know if he was out of the closet. No. Jim J. Bullock. Jim J. Bullock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:24 We just knew. We just had a feeling, right? Yeah. They didn't say. They were swinging bachelors. That's right. Yeah. I actually, I was saying on the air the other day, I was, I was talking about television and different, I don't care of.
Starting point is 00:08:35 But I said, you tell a kid, tell a millennial or a Z or whatever they are that the, uh, the finale of cheers was showed at Skydome. Right. Right. Like 40,000 people went and watched the finale of cheers. Forgot about that. Also, was the Star Trek the next generation also aired at the dome? Or is that aired some, that was some other significant finale? Maybe they, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:01 That I don't know. Okay, I'm going to crack open to Great Lakes Beer on the microphone. I already, I already, well, I got here early. Did you have one already? Well, I got here early and Jarvis brought me one down, so I had it. So Jarvis and I got back from his soccer practice, and he came in and he was, I saw a foot. Like, I saw somebody was here. I saw someone was here, and I said, go find out which one it is.
Starting point is 00:09:20 Like, I know is Robert Bob. What the heck is this super light? Okay. so that is a logger with less alcohol. How we put that down. What a drunk. Okay. So by the way,
Starting point is 00:09:28 I gotta say, the super light logger is excellent, but it is less alcohol. I like the logo. I like the design is nice, though. So you've got yourself a bird. That's an IPA. Do you like an IPA?
Starting point is 00:09:37 You'll like that. So I have the octopus. It's the fighting weight. So it's a bit lighter than the typical octopus. Oh, it's not octopus wants to fight. Well, it's fighting weight. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:46 because if I have a couple of offices wants to fight, I don't know if, you know, do you want to fight? Well, then it's Octopi wants to fight. And Happy New Year's, year and cheers. Yes. Okay, happy new year.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Let's get this out of the way. Happy New Year. Happy 49th. Happy, happy 49th episode and yeah, right? Happy 50th birthday to Bob Willett. Rob,
Starting point is 00:10:03 you're going to be a guest on Brad Jones's excellent podcast, Life's undertaking, and that's happening tomorrow. Yes. I'm so excited. So I'm kind of out of the loop.
Starting point is 00:10:12 What are you coming on to talk about? Yeah, you'll find out tomorrow. Okay, come on. Are you the producer of the show? Yeah. I'm also the co-host, by the way. But you're not the content
Starting point is 00:10:19 creator of the show. No. So you just wait and be surprised. Okay. So you're going to be driving back to New York. Yeah. And you're going to be joining us. And me and Brad and I are going to be down here in the basement.
Starting point is 00:10:29 This is from the funeral home? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if people want to hear what Rob Proust is up to on Life's Undertaking, I'll drop that episode like tomorrow evening. And actually the timing might work perfect because as I'm driving, I usually like take a break at the duty free, which is just by the border.
Starting point is 00:10:45 That's usually where the duty free is. That's usually where it is. Right. So maybe I can time it so that I'll stop there. So I don't have to actually be driving when I turn on the Zoom. Oh, that's good. good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be kind of, yeah. And then also you could lose the signal, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:56 the more, the more... What would we do if we lost Rob Pruse? Oh, my gosh, I can't even, don't even say, don't even say, I just want to say, just quickly before moving on, we'll talk about funerals and I was at the funeral. I think I might, I might, find myself a side hustle at the funeral home. Yeah, the,
Starting point is 00:11:12 doing what? Um, you know, one of those guys in the... Involving people? No, no, one of the guys in the black suit that, like, you know, ushers people around and carries bodies. But any funeral home, are you talking Well, no, not Ridley. It's over here on this side of town, right? Like, no, there's one that I've gone to far too many times in my life that's out in Scarborough. And I got, I was getting to know the, I was, I've, go figure, I was playing the music at the, at the, at the, at the service yesterday.
Starting point is 00:11:39 And I was talking a lot to the, to the guy who runs the joint. And, oh, this is a huge development. Right. Like, I got a gig at a funeral home. I mean, well, it's like, I was like, I got weird hours and, like, I'm actually, like, I got. I'm going to talk to him. Like I afterwards, he was like, I don't know how often they hire or whatever,
Starting point is 00:11:56 but I'm like, you know what? I could do this. I could do this. Because you know what? I could be reverent. I don't have to be irreverent all the time. They give you some training,
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm sure as well. And also unpopular people need pallbearers. Like you actually need six people. You could say unpopular or very old because everybody's dead. That's right. Yeah. Also unpopular people. It's a nice.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Like no one comes out to the funeral. But it's a nice rule to have, because I mean, I remember going to like my specific memory, my grandmother's funeral. And, and, And the guy who took care of us, like, who helped. Yep.
Starting point is 00:12:25 And the Brad Jones. Yes, exactly. And it's a huge. It's a great position to have. And people are so thankful that you're just there with them to help guide them. Because people feel like you don't know what to do, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Anyway, so I'm seriously, I'm seriously thinking of, you know, forget side hustle, DJ. Side hustle funeral guy. Or just DJ funerals. Ooh, like, I would love to do that. A lot of Norwegian death metal, which would be appropriate for this. I actually played a lot of Norse music because Patricia was, uh, into the North, the North, she was like a pagan.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Wow. Yeah. So we played some, we played some like, uh, Arena MacKitt. Uh, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:58 the theme song and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Anyways. Amazing. Okay. I want to know. I have a note for you,
Starting point is 00:13:03 Bob, but I was at a, uh, well, was Al Grego has a band called the weekends. And they were in Kensington Market at Trinity Commons. And I was just Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:13:12 I think. I biked over to check them out. I had an octopus wants to fight. I'm checking him out. And there were some young late, younger than me, okay? I'm not saying their kids or anything.
Starting point is 00:13:19 but they were dancing and then Al introduced me to one of them who works with him but she had brought her good friend who I quickly
Starting point is 00:13:28 we were chatting it up and I quickly learned she produces podcast for the CBC and Al goes maybe you know where this is going but Al says something like this is Toronto Mike
Starting point is 00:13:37 and she kind of lights up I felt very I felt very good about this moment because she seemed she didn't seem disgusted by that idea and she said oh we have a couple
Starting point is 00:13:46 of mutual friends and I'm like oh who am I going to who are these mutual friends. And she said, Jim Shedden and Bob Willett. Do you know the name of this woman I was chatting with? AC Row. That's AC Row.
Starting point is 00:13:56 AC Row. I hired at Proud F. So first of all, let me say, A.C. Roe, one of the best broadcasters I've ever worked with. She's like 12 years younger than me. Get her on toast. You know what? I told her.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Can I tell you she's 15 years younger than you? Because I said, how old are you? Did she say 15 years younger? Well, she said 35, and I'm doing math in my head. Well, okay. Maybe she lied a little bit. Really? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Maybe he's got a birthday coming out. Because 50 minus 35 is 15. I just, I hired her so I know what year she was born. Rob says that's great. Oh, really? Okay. I, I,
Starting point is 00:14:30 I, uh, Maybe she lied to me. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm misremembering. A.C. Roe came in to work with Mike Shaloo. From Elma Combo. From the Elma combo.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Which brings me up to my next point. When you're done, Bob, I'm going to talk to you. So AC was a student at Ryerson in the RTA program. when it was Ryerson. And she came in and she knocked my socks off right from the very beginning. She was so smart. And I ended up,
Starting point is 00:14:57 we co-hosted, I co-hosted a show with her for like quite a bit. I would fill in for Mike. And I just, I just, she's, I was like, you're better than Evanov radio.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Which, you know, and she ended up, she produced, she worked on definitely not the opera with Sukkin Lee. Yes. His new movie is fantastic. Really?
Starting point is 00:15:13 What's definitely not the opera? You don't, DNT? Oh, yeah, he's American. Oh, DNTO is,
Starting point is 00:15:18 It's a CBC. It's gone now. It's all, but it was, it was on the weekend. Okay. And it was definitely not the opera. Because the CBC two was,
Starting point is 00:15:25 it was always on two. And it was always, you know, remember, to that's not, that's not necessarily. It wasn't always on. It was often on CBC where you want.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Yeah, yeah. Anyways, that's where, so she ended up going to Winnipeg and working there. And now she's, she's big time. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So, like, she's producing podcasts for the CBC. Yep. She did a show called, she hosted a show called podcast playlist. She was the host for that. Yeah. Which is also gone now.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Yeah, it is gone now as well. But she's been there, yeah, for many years. She is honest to goodness, one of my favorite people in the world. Okay, well, she named Rob to you. And I got, I also... Did she say nice things about me? She actually said that you had mentioned me. I don't know if you'd mention me.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But I was just excited that, like, I don't know what names are going to come out. You know when somebody says, two people, we have mutual friends. And you're bracing yourself. Like, okay, what two... Because I know a lot of people. Who are these two people going to be? Right. And then they said, Jim Sheddon and Bob Willett.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And I was like, hey, I like both... Funny how you two are connected, too. Well, yeah, because my wife works with Jim Sheddon. And Jim Shedden used to do a zine with Steve Kane from Warner Music. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's true. A lot of, this guy was a zine master of Jim Sheddon.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Very cool guy. Okay, so that was my A.C. Rose story. But then you mentioned Mike Shalute, who I know is from works at the Elma Combo now. And we should just basically let the listenership know Rob Proust that when I have my, I don't know what to call it, but the Toronto Mike social experiment at the Elma combo in May, you're going to be by my side as my Paul Schaefer.
Starting point is 00:16:52 I'll be over, I'll be across the stage, like appropriate distance. Okay, well, you know, you'll be on side of that. I don't understand. I haven't crafted it yet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:03 At some point, I'll craft something brilliant. Like, as in like a run for the show, like a run down? And will this be a live show? It's going to be a live show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Get to buy tickets. And you're going to record it. Oh. I don't know. actually no, I haven't got that far. Oh, they can record it there for you. Like, I'm not going to pay for them to record it. Yeah, yeah. So right now, I'm not paying it. Oh, Shulhu will
Starting point is 00:17:22 throw it. Tell them it's for Bob. I'll hire him too. Yeah, well, I gave them, I gave him, I give both of those people they're starting radio. Wow. Mike, Mike was in TV before, but neither of them had been on radio before. I start, I, you know, I don't do much for myself, but I do other people. So soon, soon I'll be clearer about how you buy tickets and everything. Because this, there will be, this is a ticketed event in a, It's not free tickets.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Okay, so if you want to go, you have to pay money and go. But I will be, when I craft this, let's call it a one-man show or whatever, there are musical cues throughout. Yeah. That will be performed live on keyboard by Prodigy Rob Pruse. I don't think you'd call me Prodigy anymore because I'm old. It was in the CBC thing I pulled when I first had you on. I know, but I was like 15 or 16.
Starting point is 00:18:07 I don't think. I don't think that expires. You don't think? Oh, I was a childhood prodigy, and I think that it runs out. Former childhood, I guess. Yeah, because what happens, a prodigy is like somebody who has a promise. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 00:18:18 I have no promise. I have no promise. Extraordinary potential. No, no, no, no. I feel like that, you carry that forever. You were a prodigy. But I don't think you can be a prodigy. I've already put it on the poster.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Okay, thank you. You have a poster already? It says, Prodigy. Keyboard prodigy. The band from the 90s. I got to do that hair. That guy's dead.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Yeah, you say, that's funny. We all did a different song. You said, you said, Fire Starter. You did fire starter. I did breathe with me and he goes smack my bitch up. Yeah. We all did three big ones. Yeah. Okay. Shout out to Edge 102. Oh, Bob, what are your thoughts on the CF and Y documentary? It's a third of a documentary. That's all. You know what? It's a third of a documentary. It's fine. You could tell they ran out of money or, you know, and, um...
Starting point is 00:19:02 But you do know that it's a 90 minute documentary that got carved into a 60 minute doc because TVO wanted 60. I have a question about that. Because I've seen the 90. Yeah. So, okay. So I'm just saying even at 90, then it's two-thirds of a documentary. I feel like I don't know what got what ended up on the cutting room floor, as they say. I'm sure you couldn't. I think it, I think it was, I think it spent a lot of time on, a lot more time on certain things that it didn't have to that I didn't think were relevant. But that's just me.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Okay, but what? Because they do spend a lot of time, for example, on the Rush song. Yeah. Which I think it's because, you know, the people behind this dog were very excited by the fact Getty Lee would participate. That's great. And they paid for the song. Yeah. So that's a big part.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So that was 10 minutes I thought that could have been done in two. So what Fred Patterson was disappointed by, he's put this on his show. That he had one line and Howard had none. Well, he was disappointed. Not necessarily, but he was disappointed that the words Pete and Geats did not get uttered once in the entire. Which is interesting. Like how do you do it? If I told you six months ago, there will be a 60 minute doc on CF and Y.
Starting point is 00:20:10 And that means, for those who don't know, that doesn't mean it's on 102. the David Marsden Play What You Want era like from 77 to 87 okay so for that period of time the Spirit radio period I told you they make a dog
Starting point is 00:20:22 David Haydoo was on it but they didn't mention Pete and Geetz they did just they said he was the engineer and morning show host on the like the little name underneath but you're right they didn't talk about the show and the impact the show had no no and it is in that there is Pete and Geats content in the 90 minute version for what it's worth but okay I just wonder what you
Starting point is 00:20:38 thought because you are you know you come later obviously yeah I'm like my I would love to see, I'll be honest, like I would love to see an Edge 102 era, uh, documentary because although not as maybe, uh, I don't know, not as a, you know, out of the box thinking, but that era that I was there, I feel it was amazing. We have people with guys like George Strombolopoulos. I mean, we know all the names. Brother Bill and I got a chat on Friday. Brother Bill Martin's three parts. Like, you know what I mean? Like you could have done that first era and then May pots. You know, Danny could have been in there
Starting point is 00:21:10 more like, um, I think like I, I feel like it just, I mean, again, it's still be a lot of Alan Cross still a lot of made pots. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, but I'm even thinking the, if you're going back to the, the, the, the, the, the first question of what do I think of the documentary? I feel like, you feel like, yeah, I felt like it was like, like, I, I, like, I said, a third of a documentary and I feel like there was so much stuff that was just, just like, like, sprinkled in and I was like, oh, I want to know more about that. Like, what was this TV show that, that, that Shep did? What station?
Starting point is 00:21:41 102? What station was that on? Oh, that's right. I didn't know that. But I made a $4.4. Did I say that? Maybe it only cost, maybe it cost less than that. I made a four-hour C-F-O-Y dog.
Starting point is 00:21:51 That is a C-H-C-H. Yes, yes, yes. So you've done the deep dive. But I'm just saying as a documentary, there's a lot. I think that your episode 102-1-1 was a more complete. Oh, I'm sure. Of course. They didn't have four hours.
Starting point is 00:22:04 No. And I think that you could take that. And also, I think that the conversation that we had, we were just talking about the progressing past of modern melodies. Yeah, with Cam Gordon and Brother Bill. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Which was actually like two years ago or three years ago yesterday or two days ago. Yeah. And that combination of things would paint a more complete picture of that era, I think, as well. Like, you can never cover it all.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Wasn't there a series on the Big Eight? Or was it just one documentary? I feel like it was more than one. You know, in Windsor, the Big Eight, you know, with Mark Daly was there. Pardon me? Mark Daly? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 He was on there at the Big Aux. Trombly. Yeah, Rosalie. And it was like this, you know, But I feel like it was more than just one episode. I feel like it was like a mini series or something. Maybe I'm wrong. So we're kicking out the metal jams.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Although I have a few things I wanted to share off the top. And this was Bob's birthday wish, right? Yeah, I had a couple different ideas. And I thought I would go with, you know, one of the many genres of music that resonate with me. Okay, so hold my hand. And it's open-ended. And it's open-ended.
Starting point is 00:23:09 What is metal? Whatever metal means to you. That's exactly what I said. I remember how you said it. That's right. All I know is I'm in a metal mood. I want to make sure you know I'm in a metal mood. But I wanted to do a little preamble tour here while you guys drink your great legs.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Beer. Okay. While you dream about your palma pasta lasagna, I have in the freezer upstairs. Going home with you, Bob, for your 50th. Don't say I don't give you anything. Anyone know this song? This is Molly Crew? Yep.
Starting point is 00:23:41 I'm waiting for some background vocals. There you go. Okay. So this is from Dr. Feel Good. This is a monster album, okay? Fun facts. Background vocals on this song, Sticky Sweet, which comes out in 1989.
Starting point is 00:24:10 This is not one of my jams. I'm just doing a little thing here. But Stephen Tyler of Arrow Smith. But not only Stephen Tyler of AeroSmith, we'll get back to him in a minute. Brian Adams. Wow. It's back there. They made this, this is the Vancouver Connection.
Starting point is 00:24:26 It's a guy named Bruce Fairburn. Bruce Fairburn. Yeah, he from Prism. Sweet as well. Yeah. Do you know he died at 49? Yes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Yeah. I still got five days left. Hang on. I know. I was surprised. He's the guy from Prism. I know we talked about prison before. And he produced another Aerosmith album.
Starting point is 00:24:44 I'm actually going to reference real quick here. So, anyway, I hear this song. This is 89. And this will be brief. I won't spend too much time. But it reminded me of a song here. I'll bring it down. That was sticky sweet.
Starting point is 00:24:53 I know you weren't listening to the beginning. It reminded me of this. Poisoned me of this. Unskidie bomb. All right. So, Rob, when you hear these, like, hair metal 80s, this is actually 1990, but this song opens up quite a bit like sticky sweet by Motley Crew. But then it was stuck in me. This is notes I had for a bit here before I even knew it was going to be metal jams.
Starting point is 00:25:34 It sounds great, though. Yeah. On Skinny Bops, a big fucking song. Yeah, the production is fantastic. You know, Bruce Fairburn produced the second honeymoon suite album, the big prize. And the story is that Bon Jovi heard that album and dug the sound, and they hired him to produce slippery one with. Bon Jovi's album. He did slippery when wet. Wow. That was after Honeymoon Sweet because
Starting point is 00:25:52 I think he heard the big prize and he's like that, they heard the big prize and they were like, that's a good sound of record. So hold that thought on Bruce, okay? Okay. I was supposed to have two Bruce's visit this week. I know. And no Bruce's are visiting this week. Okay. So hold a thought on Bruce, okay? So I hear Sticky Sweets 89, unskney Bob's 90,
Starting point is 00:26:10 but there's a song these openings remind me of, okay? So I'm going to play it. There's a little bit of a weird open to this, so let me do this properly here. Stand by, standby. Stand by. Live in color Yeah, that's all the personality I play a, I played some Name that tune over the holidays
Starting point is 00:26:57 Kind of killed So this is 88 Yeah Yeah So this is before Sticky Smith All right This is like got a name This is the production
Starting point is 00:27:07 It's not the same producer No No no no I can you this is like just feels raw Er and realer if you will Also unlike those other two songs This is an FOTM jam There you go
Starting point is 00:27:17 Okay okay So you mentioned Bruce Fairburn. I actually mentioned that. Okay, I'm going to take full credit for this. Okay. Okay, that's an abrupt stop there. My apologies. How bright it is, right?
Starting point is 00:27:30 Even with like digital. Want you? A little mind blow here, but I want to just go on the record to say Stephen Tyler is a great rock vocal. Oh, yeah. Great. Do you know who produced this album? You know the name of this album?
Starting point is 00:28:06 Is this pump? This is a pump. So all the songs on Pump are actually pretty. fucking good. Pump and you know what? Get a grip. Should it should have a... It's pretty damn good too.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Like in the middle of grunge, they release fucking get a grip and kill it. That's great. So Bruce Fairburn direct... I'm sorry, produces pump. Wow. So this guy, Janie's got a gun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Yeah. An angel. Oh, an angel. I think angels on the previous. Oh, you might be right. They're all great songs, though. You hear the song, though. So, were you familiar with the other side?
Starting point is 00:28:37 Yeah. Okay. So, do you know they had to give songwriting's credit to let me play a song so you hear the tune here right? Yes. Let me set this up properly. Okay
Starting point is 00:28:50 it's funny because there's an FOTM name Decisive who used a lot of a song he didn't have the license, he didn't pay for it by Holland Dozier in Holland, okay? Really? Well, these guys felt this tune
Starting point is 00:29:05 take me to the other side here sounded too much like that's cool so they had to give songwriting credits because these guys complained that's up there with the Katie Lang anybody seen my baby
Starting point is 00:29:41 constant craving you know like they had to give it to her because like all right I guess I mean after they after they didn't let the verve have any money right you're right angels on permanent vacation
Starting point is 00:29:52 that's a good album too I was a big aerosmith guy like crazy right the album after get a grip is the one with the song pink on it I love that song. It's one of the funny... I actually went one of my first road trips with me and my buddy, Mark,
Starting point is 00:30:09 my 1975 Buick century. We went down to Cincinnati to ride roller coasters, and then we drove over to Pittsburgh to the Coca-Cola Star Lake Amphitheater and saw Aerosmith with... Yeah, with Johnny Lang opening. Wow. I remember Johnny Lang, yeah. So, yeah, and then I saw Aerosmith run DMC and Kid Rock here in Toronto. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That one is mad. I love Aerosmith. But they've been great forever. Like when I was, the year you were born, 1976, and I was 10 years old, the summer of 76, walked this way was like one of my favorite songs on the radio.
Starting point is 00:30:43 Well, before that, was Dream On. Dream On, of course. That's the first hit, right? Yep. And if you ever see a sports montage set to Dream On. Yeah, perfect.
Starting point is 00:30:51 Have you seen him, Stephen on, with Stern talking about, there's a couple, you know, what's the thing that you hit and it goes, Vibus lap, A vibrous lap. At the beginning of,
Starting point is 00:31:04 I can't remember, maybe it's, not dream of, there's a vibrous lap, it breaks. Yeah, and you can hear it. Oh,
Starting point is 00:31:12 funny. And then in another one of those first albums, they didn't have any Maracas. Yeah. They turned the mics up, and he's using sugar packets. Oh, funny. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:21 That's so cool. Yeah, it's years ago, but it was a stern talking to Stephen about it. I love that. Yeah, so cool. Okay, so I just have to get a couple of things out of my system because I hold on to them for the month. Well, you talked about Bruce.
Starting point is 00:31:32 You didn't finish your Bruce story. Well, that he produced pump. No, you had other bruses to talk about. Oh, did you want to know about them? They're different bruses. I know. Just that, so Bruce... You had to and now you have none.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Okay, well, Bruce McCullough has been rescheduled. So he's back in the calendar, and he's a desired guest because I like the kids in the hall. Kids in a hall? Bruce McCullough? Yeah, it's good for you. So he was going to be here Friday. Cool. So when he came out of the calendar Friday, I actually decided let me do something different.
Starting point is 00:32:00 And then I decided, there's a local historian who's wanted to come over and talk about these mind blows and fun facts about the Humber River. Oh, cool. And I kayak the Humber River. I bike the Humber River. It's always been like a part of my life. And I said to him, get over here Friday. Nice.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You can take Bruce's spot. But I'm also going to call up Brother Bill and catch up with him and get his review of the C.N. Cool. Okay. So Bob, name that tune. Why don't you ask me? Yeah, I don't. There's a reason for that.
Starting point is 00:32:30 You're never going to know this song. I don't know what it is. Bob at least knows. This is a pretend. We're Dead by L7. It's a big... Oh, L7. Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:32:38 They played Eden Fest. Oh, really? Yeah. It's the only song I can name by L7. I actually don't even... Well, this song was a big grunge radio hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I just recently listened to
Starting point is 00:32:50 the first suicidal tendencies album. I only knew the single Institutionalized. So I know institutionalized from the video. All he wanted was a Pepsi. All he wanted was a Pepsi. Like, I know this. In fact, it's funny I'm talking to Brother Bill.
Starting point is 00:33:04 on Friday. I think that's one of his favorite songs at all time. He's a punk guy at heart. So I'm listening to the album for the first time last week. Suicidal Tendency's a debut album, right? So I hear this song. You guys ready? I love bass guitar. You're going to get a lot in a minute. I fucking hate it. I saw your mommy, okay, because your mommy's dead.
Starting point is 00:34:33 But don't you guys hear pretend we're dead by L7 in this song? I don't know what I pretend we're dead by L7 enough to say that. Okay, so you're coming out of that, which you guys are fucking loving. I can see it in your eyes. okay, we'll do it again. Hold on. Now it sounds like fucking puddle of mud to me.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Not where I did. Okay, fine, so I don't have a winner here, but I hear so much of suicidal tendencies, and I didn't even know that song, I saw your mommy, it's on the debut album, I only heard for the first time last week, and it reminded me so much of pretend we're dead. But you said you like bass lines, so this is the last thing, we're
Starting point is 00:35:20 going to get the metal gem, okay? I just want to say something just quickly before you do. I love discovering bands, especially iconic bands. Like, I remember hearing the, getting into the Pixies well after they were like there was like the fight club yeah probably fight club is when I started to that's when I got into Pixies um just last year for me uh the damned I'd never stop stop the fucking press okay hold my hand we're doing this quick here but hold on to those words that's a mind blow right here okay so hold on baselines yeah here's a big one everybody listening
Starting point is 00:35:50 knows okay okay so hold on this is uh violent fans No. Okay. Wait, does Rob Pruth know who is? New Taylor Swift. The new, it's the new
Starting point is 00:36:04 Sabrina Carpard. Hey, hold on. Here it comes. So there's a song that has a similar opening. You might have heard this, okay? A band called Killing Joke.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Oh, yeah. So let's do that real quick. Of course you do. Yeah, that's right up here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. 80s, totally. Oh, 80s.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Yeah. Just like slowed down. That's it. Well, and is that, is that Butch? Like, I don't, production? So, okay, so fine. So we all agree. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you said the damned, right? I did say the dam because they were playing the Danforth Music Hall, and I wanted to go, and I was giving away tickets. And I started listening to them, and I'm like, oh, my God, they're so good. I'm about to play a song by the damned. Okay. Is that wild?
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's queued up, the dance. Okay, hit it. There you go. By way, I think it's Martin Popoff's favorite band of all time, I think. The damned? Wow. I didn't, it's that punk new wave crossover thing that I'm not, and I know, actually, I really enjoyed the Joy Division stuff in, in the documentary. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I really enjoyed that. Oh, yeah, the new order. Yeah, it's that, that punk into new wave thing. Yep. That connection's amazing.
Starting point is 00:37:24 I've always been told, and I, of course, you can hear it, that, oh, yeah, come as you are by Nirvana is inspired by Killing Jokes 80s, which we're listening to right now. But here's a song by the Dam that predates Killing Joke. You ready? Mm-hmm. Damn. Yeah, it's cool. It's identical. Wow. Is this before?
Starting point is 00:37:48 Is this 802? Which album is this? It's called Life Goes On. So Google Life Goes On. Yeah, yeah. I'm just looking at them right now. It's before. Killing Joke.
Starting point is 00:37:55 Wow. Oh, I love this song. I totally got into this. See, I love that combination. New order has that base sound. I mean, New order. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:10 I'm telling you, That was the sound, the post-punk sound, when you got from, like, what was the late 70s, all the baseline, simple minds had baselines like that as well. And the cure? Yeah, all that stuff. You say, this is life goes on? Life goes on. That was the corky show, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:38:25 What's that? That was the corky. We're bringing it all circle. With the Lucy from ER. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. This wasn't a single, so. Life goes.
Starting point is 00:38:34 Okay. So this is the damned, and it sounds like killing Joe. It sure does. Which is like you are. Which is a big hit from Navan. Okay. So we are going to pivot now to Bob's topic metal jams. And we're going to start with you, Rob Proust.
Starting point is 00:38:45 We're going to start with me. Okay. But I want to thank Nick Aini's. We recorded a new episode of Building Toronto Skyline. You ought to listen to. On Friday. You ought to listen to what he can say to you. You know, when I do that, it's an homage to Chuck D.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Oh, it is? I think it sounds like you should. Okay. Hold on because I'm going to play that song later. So, yeah. Bring the noise. Ferricon's a prophet that I think you ought to listen to. What do you can say to.
Starting point is 00:39:10 you. So you hear that in your head every time you say it. Yeah. I get your vibe. That's why I took it from Chuck D. Oh, that's cool. But I'm actually playing that song later.
Starting point is 00:39:16 So I don't. That's a, this is a, I'm fucked up here, man. Oh, this is from their first album. You're blowing your mind. 1977. Wow.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Yeah. So wait, way before. 77. Yeah. So interesting, right? Damned, damned, damned. Damned. Damn.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Damn. The circumstance. There you go. Some low. So I do want to let people know about Recycle My Electronics. C.A.
Starting point is 00:39:39 if you got some fancy new tech for Christmas and you got old tech that's now obsolete you don't throw it in the garbage you go to recycle myelectronics.ca, put it in your postal code and find out where you drop it off but it will not work in the United States of America. Sorry, Rob! Oh, that's okay. Bring it to Burlington. Yeah, it's funny because on my bike ride
Starting point is 00:40:05 to pick up Jarvis moments about an hour ago I was listening to Martin Popoff. his podcast. And he's always going on about the dam. They're so cool. They're a band I don't listen to. I don't know them as well either. Like, Killing Joke is like new to me
Starting point is 00:40:20 in the last 10 years. Like 80s is a rad jam, man. I saw them live, and I didn't really know their music until I'd seen them live, and it blew me away. And then I realized, oh, it's such a popular song. We played live at Whiskey Saigon Sunday nights quite a bit, killing joke. What does Indy-88 think about the fact that
Starting point is 00:40:37 there's a bit of buzz in the city right now about CFNY because of the dock. Do they even notice it? No. Is it just the, it's just buzz in my house? There's no, yeah. I'm gonna, look, define buzz. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:52 I can tell you, I can tell you one thing. It's not affecting ratings. So, hey now. I just, to be honest, it's just, you know, I didn't get invited. I actually wanted to go to the screening in that chorus key of the CF1. Yeah, I didn't get invited.
Starting point is 00:41:05 I don't know. Yeah, but I didn't get invited. But I was told in the past that, Scott had told me in the past, he'd be invited, and I was not invited, because I think I pissed off those guys. By talking to the director. He was unauthorized to discuss the documentary, even though he's the director of the documentary. I do believe, though, your conversation helped sort of in the larger picture of the film. I'm just doing my fucking thing, man.
Starting point is 00:41:28 That's what I mean. You just do your thing. They are lucky to have you as a part of the promotional process. Oh, my gosh. No kidding. This guy keeps the... I thought it was a good promotion. No, no, you keep the...
Starting point is 00:41:38 Okay, but I didn't get invited. No. I was told by someone who was there that afterwards there was a Q&A and David Marsden said something to the effect of next week chorus should give us back the signal 102.1
Starting point is 00:41:50 and we should be allowed to continue. He meant like the same people. Yeah, like Ivor, Scott. Oh yeah. Himselfself, David Marston. So they don't want to make money. God bless. I saw him in the summer at Wolfgang Klein's party.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Right. Which I was all, I was invited to that. You were invited to that one. And I love Marsden, and he actually came into Indy 88 and spoke to the staff. Yeah, because, you know, yeah. Look, and I, I see, he, he's, he loved Proud FM. Yeah, yeah. Um, that's that I used to, like him a lot.
Starting point is 00:42:21 But the idealism of that station is great, but it's just not that's, you can't do that. It's just not going to work. No, it's too, too narrow an audience, right? Yeah. Uh, you need a broader, you need some chaparone in there. Look at, well, look at fucking Indy 88. Sorry. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Like, no, I know. Yeah. Time is in the present. Oh, look, we're going to fight over that tiny little four, two, like three or four share that the edge and indie have. We're going to fight over that while fucking boom and CHFI have a
Starting point is 00:42:50 collective 30 share between the two of them. No, we're going to, and chum, you know, like, no, we're going to go after, we got to do that. We got to fish where the, yeah, fish where the fish are. I need to make sure I tell that Lamont Dozier is the guy, I'm being corrected. I'm being, uh, as, you know, Robert Lawson by Leslie, which is, it's not, it was just,
Starting point is 00:43:08 Lamont Dozier who wrote the song The Decisive Stole. So I just want to make sure I'm clear. Only Lamont Dozier. Jeremy Humpkin getting in getting impatient. I was fully expecting tonight to be about heavy metal. Yeah, yeah. So let me just say this. We're now kicking out the metal jam. Here we go. My brain's just saying
Starting point is 00:43:24 did I thank everybody. So Palmipasta sent over lasagna. Everybody go to Palma Pazas. We have a comment. There's a comment from Mike on the live stream that says, hair metal does not equal metal. Well, you know what? That's to be discussed. That's elitist. That's elitist. That's a snobby attitude, Mike. We expect better from you. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Love Mike. Okay. Although I think of them as a different name and it confuses me. I don't know who is this. We do him as Tobias Vaughn. Oh, okay. But his real name's Mike. My name's to have gone back to Mike. We, uh, you told me this. We saw him out a, uh, at a TFC game.
Starting point is 00:43:54 He's always, he's a big, big soccer thing. I, uh, but yeah, you know, this is Tobias Vaughn, but this is Mike. I'm like, what you fucking, who is it? His real name's Mike, you know, but Tobias Vaughn is like a cool name. handle for a fake name. Yeah. So,
Starting point is 00:44:10 well done. Okay, but go back to it, is what we're saying. So we're now going to kick out the metal jams. Uh, have I thanked everybody.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I thank Nikainis. I thanked, uh, recycle my electronics. I see. Thank you to Ridley funeral home. Thank you to Palmapasta. Thank you to Great Lakes.
Starting point is 00:44:26 That's what it takes to do this. By the way, I highly recommend yesterday's episode with Rush Me Nair. I saw, I saw the whole thing as well I was driving. It was a hundred minutes. It was just wild. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It was fantastic. Because they don't hold back. They just go, and they're so smart. Reschmi was sitting right here. Yes. Rushmi was very impressed by how tall Supriya was. She's like 5'4. That's right.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It was so cute. But she was very impressed. Okay, so who was kicking out the first jam? How about Rob Pruse? You said it's going to be me. So what would you like to say before I press play? Here's what I would like to say. When you announced that the next topic, the topic you wanted to be for your birthday was going to be metal.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah. and you were, you left it very open. You said, whatever metal. And then these were your words. You said, whatever that means to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So like two songs jumped into my head immediately. Okay. And it's a disclaimer that they might not actually. Neither are metal. No, no, no. They're metal. Are you in a metal mood? You know, that's a Pap Boone album where he covers.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Yes, I know. I would love to hear that whole album. But anyways, I've heard it. The word metal came into my head and this is this first jam, Is the first song that came into my head. Are we going to get Brandon flowers here? Like when it comes to flower jams? We'll be the judge.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Yeah. It's a craftwork. I was going to say, it sounds like craftwork, yeah. It's a good yes. Yeah, it sounds like that. George Omeroder? You keyboard. Here comes.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Keyboard guys. It doesn't sound like metal, that's for sure. Ha! It has a metal in the title. He's saying the word metal. Metal. You should be ashamed of yourself, Ron? This is a experimental music?
Starting point is 00:46:16 What is this? Keep listening. Let's keep listening. Let's hear. Oh, I like that. Oh, is it the Thomas Dolby? No. No.
Starting point is 00:46:26 No. No. Devo action or something. Yeah. Go to the live stream and see if anybody can guess. I just did. Oh, you did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:39 You didn't hear it? You didn't hear what I said? What did you say? I said, Devo. But someone said that in the live stream? No, I just said it myself. No, but I'm saying, does anyone have a guess in the live stream? Well, they just heard me to say it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 It was a guess of it's Japan, but it's not Japan. It's not Japan. Okay, so yeah, Y, Y, Z, Gord says, is this Japan? Who's in the Japan's in the CF & Y'Dog? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they are. They're huge. I can't name a Japan song, can you?
Starting point is 00:47:03 Yes. Can you name a Japan? Life in Tokyo. Life in Tokyo. That's a year close. Is that a big song? Yeah. Produced by Jojo in a right.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Would I know? Yes. Maybe it's true. You would. It was to see if I want my song. I am thoroughly disappointed. This is your metal jam. And, uh...
Starting point is 00:47:17 This is only my first metal jam. But this is not metal. So what are we listening to it? It's a song by John Fox from 1980. The song is called metal beat. Who's John Fox? John Fox was originally the lead singer of the band UltraVox. Oh, dancing with tears in my eyes.
Starting point is 00:47:32 That's mid-year. Mid-year is an F-O-T-M. John Fox was the original... Okay, but it's still UltraVox, though, right? Yes. I was right. Yeah, okay. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Oh, okay. I was like, my go-to jam is, Vienna. Oh, Vienna. This means nothing to me. No, that's a good night, Vienna. So this is John Fox, who was the original lead singer of UltraVox between 1977, 79. He left the band.
Starting point is 00:47:55 This was his first solo album, which came out in 1980. And it's called Metamatic. So you're kicking out because metal is in the title. Because metal is in the title. That was a son of a bitch. I did say, I did want to keep it open. Yes. It's a brand and flowers.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Brandon flower. But the way you said it, it didn't actually occur to me that it would just be metal music because I know you're not like a heavy metal or metal kind of a guy. Like there is different variants of men. Yes, I know. I think this is so I might do one of each. Well, I have I have an entire article here on the types of metal.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Okay, good. This is not one of the types of metal. No, no, no. But this has metal in the title. So this is very craftworking. It's very craftworking because what was happening, this is that time we were talking about with killing joke and the damned and all these bands where the electronic music was starting to like find a lane of its own. And then
Starting point is 00:48:39 around the same time was when it was starting to merge with the punkers. And that's when you started to have bands like New Order. And Joy Division were coming along, adding the synth to the guitars. And it was all merging. But John Fox left UltraVox to sort of explore just electronics. So it's like it's just drum machines and synthesizers, but it's called metal beat. So that was my metal.
Starting point is 00:49:01 There's no, like Bob said, it's how you want to interming it. So you're not like in violation. But I can tell you, there are some diehard toast listeners who, like one is named List. Taylor, but more than it, I think Y YZ Gordon might be flirting with this category, who weren't in love with the fact they were going to hear a wall of metal. I'm here for them. Well, this is why. So, yeah, and I knew that.
Starting point is 00:49:23 You're saving their lives. And I knew that. And I knew, like, I don't want people to tune out. I don't want less people to listen. Yeah, no. And that's why I kept it open-ended. Oh, I don't care. And when I, I, well, I do.
Starting point is 00:49:33 We have the right to kick out a genre. If they don't like it and they want to skip it, that's their loss. Yeah, that's right. Like, people come here for the flare. And they don't. don't know what they're going to get. That's why I wanted to bring something a little different. I learned something right there. I didn't know John Fox existed.
Starting point is 00:49:48 I know. He's fantastic. He does a lot of people. So mid-year took his spot in UltraVox? Yeah. I mean, not really his spot because John was irreplaceable because he was a very unique guy. Okay, but his role? Exactly. As the lead singer. You can kick out my second jam, though, because it's, I
Starting point is 00:50:02 didn't have a lot of fun facts for this song other than it's just an electronic song. This is a live version from, like, 2007, just to show you how you could play electronic music in a live situation. Craftwork does this all the time now, of course, still. Any relation to Michael J. Fox? Not at all because he's got two X's, F.O.XX.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Like Jamie Fox. Like Jamie Fox. But he's a white guy. Yeah. Pretty fly four. That's right. And I bet you that's a fake name. You think? Probably. I don't know. I think it is. So is John Fox, probably. Let's be honest. This out reach number 18 this album in the UK.
Starting point is 00:50:34 It was huge. When I was 14, this is a fucking CFNY Jam. I'm telling you. You know it also wasn't mentioned in the dark? and I learned this from Scott Turner. I've had him over so many times, even though he's mad at me right now. He'll get over it. I hope so, because fuck, that's not fair to me.
Starting point is 00:50:48 Okay. He said that they had some promise of performance where they couldn't play very many top 40 songs. No, no, it's in the dock. Oh, no, no, it's in the dock, really. No, no. And the reason they played UK hits was because they couldn't play North American hits.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Oh, this, this is out of the, like, humble Howard and Fred have told me this lore of how what geniuses they all were there they were mandated to have so much spoken word where they that's where the rock
Starting point is 00:51:22 not the rock report were like live in Toronto live in Toronto came in they were mandate to get on the CNN tower programming to get foreground to get on the CN tower they had to do that they were not they had non-hit contingents yes just like there is
Starting point is 00:51:36 an auto law game Madonna no they were not allowed right so I know I know I know. And this is the start, it's like, oh, you know, Iver went to England
Starting point is 00:51:44 and brought back a bunch of punk records. But when you can't play North American hits, you see what are they doing overseas. And that's smart that he did it. They're playing the cure. They're playing Depeche Mode. They're playing new order.
Starting point is 00:51:56 But truthfully, at that time, though, those things were, it was still an underground in England as well. It was the underground here because it was not getting played
Starting point is 00:52:03 anywhere else. No, of course. So there was that stuff that was happening. Also, one last thing. One last thing. Yeah. hard on OMD. Why the fuck don't they say the word spoons?
Starting point is 00:52:14 Well, you know what's funny? They, no, it was interesting to me. There was two, there's two photos of us, but there were one moment where they talked about supporting these bands that became huge. They mentioned OMD, Simple Minds, and Culture Club, and we opened for all three of those fans. No Canadian. Yeah, I know. Yeah. The only Canadian man they celebrate is Rush and they, just face it.
Starting point is 00:52:30 They didn't play them. No. They stopped playing Rush. Right. They didn't, think about all the Canadian, like, I mean, Carol Pope with a rough trade. Yeah, yeah. Like, there's so many Canadian bands that got their start because of CFNY. Spoons was the big one. Well, we were one of the big ones.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Like, Marston was definitely a big supporter of ours. And we, like in 82, we were the number four album of the year. Lorraine Sagato was in there. Yeah. And also Martha, oh, no, shoot, no, you're right. Lorraine Sagato was a talking head in this document. You're right. But they don't really talk about her music.
Starting point is 00:53:02 And I mean, mind you, rise up, it was the video. The video made that was over the top, right? And actually, I have a video connection. What's that one to the moon? Something to the moon? What's it called? Dance. Something about dancing at the feet of the moon.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yeah. That's a good show. That's a good song. That's a good song. And where's the Echo Beach? No reference. Far away in time. There's something pretty big like new wave.
Starting point is 00:53:21 Is this thing still going in the background? It's still going. It's a live version. And again. Can you imagine like how much drugs you have to be on? Oh, yeah. I mean. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Like, I like experimental music. Great. I don't know how long I could last. No. But here you, I mean, the thing that you, you won't understand that I can only remember from being 14 years old when this shit was on the radio. And I had a synthesizer in my bedroom with a real-to-reel tape recorder.
Starting point is 00:53:46 And I was not in a band. And I would hear music like this and go, this is what I fucking want to do. You're a prodigy. I was a prodigy at that time. But by a starter? But nobody was doing it. You know what I mean? So like it was super inspiring.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Oh, no, it's amazing. And the thing is you got to be cool. Like this is a cool. This is, you cannot deny the cool factor of this music. Now it might sound a little hokey. It's a little. It's a little. It's a little nerdy, but I get it.
Starting point is 00:54:12 It shows you where it all started. Like, I'm not... This is like listening to Woody Guthrie. This is like folk music in the 50s where it started and where it is. But this is not metal, I guess, but it is in the title and that's what you're saying. It's definitely not metal. It's funny how we spent all this time. It's very little metal talk.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Okay. Yes. Here we go. We can change that now. Change it. Did you get my last things that I even? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:32 Yeah. So, um... Thank you. They're cheering you on, Rob. Yeah. Because you're a prodigy. So I... Let me just double check what I.
Starting point is 00:54:40 I said here. Yeah, I got you a first one here. Yeah, yeah. So I said, after my first song. Okay, so let's do my first song here. And this is not a very well-known song. But this is for everybody,
Starting point is 00:54:50 this is for everybody who's worried about it being all metal and not being familiar. Sounds like none of us are going to kick out any fucking metal. I got some metal. I'm in a metal mode. I hear another synth. Oh, yeah, wait. You hear it.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Come on now. This is right out of John Fox territory. Let's not get carried away here. Come on. Any relation to Terry Fox. Sort of. He had a metal leg. He had a metal leg.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Oh. Any relation to what does the fox say? Listen to the lyrics. Here you go. Tell me. Your troubles and doubts. I know the song. I feel like.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I'm also looking at the title, but I need the song anyway. Come on. How long does it take Rob to get it? Long time. You're Gen X. Come on. It's your fucking anthem.
Starting point is 00:55:40 It is true. I'm looking at the wave form. It's about to get louder. Here it goes. It's a cover version. I love this guy's voice. There's a part where he really gives it. I can either talk.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Just go like that. It'll bring you. Yeah, all right. So, so this is a band called Life of Agony. Wow. And they're,
Starting point is 00:56:18 they're from Brooklyn, New York, came out around 89. Yeah. I honestly only know this song because we played it Saturday nights at Club 102. Did you really?
Starting point is 00:56:26 Yeah, we did. Early, like, and it's a sing-along because it's a familiar song, but it's a metal, it's a metal cover of an 80s tune.
Starting point is 00:56:35 These guys were, they're considered alternative metal, or hardcore metal, metal core, if you will. This must have been a breakdown for them, though, because the dynamics in the song,
Starting point is 00:56:48 it goes so mellow, quiet. No, but alternative metal does that. But you know who is supposed to sing this song? Simple Minds. Oh, Billy Idol originally. Yeah. Yes. You're smart.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Of course, it means Simple Minds. They did sing the fucking song. In 90s. So I think that this is from the, this might actually don't even know what album. I think this is their debut River Runs Red. It's because of the blood? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:12 My song is more metal than your song, though, because this is a metal band? No, this is more metal than yours. Is it really? My song's called, I'm going to be the one who's the most metal. Okay. Turn it up, turn it up.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I'm channeling my midtown glory. There's a part. I'm telling you, a thousand people at the Phoenix conference. I'm cool. But now I'm thinking of like when orgy sings Blue Monday or whatever. Wait.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Oh. Not those. My next two or. Forget about me But not or Listen to this breakdown here Or dare I say Limbiscuit doing faith
Starting point is 00:57:52 Right Here we go That's an organ though man Will you stand above me Look my way Happy birthday Bobby I love this Rain keeps falling
Starting point is 00:58:06 Rain keeps falling Down They're way ahead of their time. They sound like creed there. This is sort of like when Pat Boone covered Alice Cooper. Right, right, right. So that's Life of Agony.
Starting point is 00:58:25 And I shooed, I would have had a tool song, but I've already kicked out Tool a couple times on this show, and I've kicked out Tool on when I've just kicked out the jams. I thought about Deftones, another, like, new, they're like a new metal band.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah, yeah. But I decided to just change it up a little bit with this. And I just kind of rediscovered this song just in the last week or so. Not week. In the last couple weeks. So this reminds me of, go back to CFN Live for a minute. So they wouldn't play Rush. At some point, they said, okay, Q, you have Rush.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Yeah, yeah. We're not touching Rush anymore. So how do you play Spirit of Radio? Oh, you get Catherine Wheel to cover it. We'll play that. Right. Yep. So Catherine Wheel covers Rush Spirit of Radio,
Starting point is 00:59:12 and that's what you heard on 102.1 all the time here. That's like Catherine Wheel's worst song, too. Like, they have way better song. So anyways. But it is their most played song on CF&Y. Oh. Like what's, what Catherine Wheel song?
Starting point is 00:59:25 Black Metallic. And his brother is metal. Right? His brother, it was Halford. It's Rob Halford? Yeah. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah. So the lead singer of Catherine Wheel, his brother is, is Rob Haliford's brother. Well, we're here to deliver the mind. Yeah. Think about it? What is, um, uh, Rob Halford is, uh, Jude, Judas Priest is no Iron Man.
Starting point is 00:59:45 Iron Maiden, Judas Priest? I saw one of them this summer. We're clearly the best metal head. Right now, Mike is shaking his head. Oh, God. Judas Priest. I know. So what you were just saying about like Faith,
Starting point is 01:00:02 Limp Bizkit doing Faith, Orgy doing Blue Monday, these next two songs, I was like, this is just in a long line of metal covers. And here's just a couple examples of other metal covers that I think are quite good. So I'll see if you guys can get this one. I've seen the title. I can't.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I can't participate. But Rob can. No. Let's see. Well, the opening line is the... I'll give my left nut to science. He'll get the song, but he won't get the band. No.
Starting point is 01:00:35 He might not get the song. The song's the opening line. Really? I'll mute that. Now, this is metal. Yes? New world order. New world order.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Reeves. Jesus built by a heart ride. A mind is a terrible thing to taste. Terrible thing to taste, yeah. Lai, lady, la. He's kicked out. Jesus built my hot rod. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:02 This is, uh, it's ministry. This is ministry? Is it? This is ministry. In the heavy metal, not very, yeah. Did you know the last time they came through town,
Starting point is 01:01:12 they played all their, like, like poppies, like they're more electric stuff, played history, and they played, like, all the stuff that sounds like, uh, every day is Halloween.
Starting point is 01:01:20 apparently. And I saw them open for, it was filter ministry. Yeah, filter ministry. Filters, a F-O-B-B-W. Yeah, filter ministry, Alice Cooper and Rob Zombie was a show. I still don't know what song it says.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's Lay Lady Lay. It is? Lay-Lady, Lay. Lady, Lay. When you play, Don't You Forget About Me, that cover by the Agony People. Life of Agony. I thought of, my brain thought of the next band you're going to play.
Starting point is 01:01:53 Okay, yeah, exactly. That's why, yeah. So, go, yeah, go for it. Yeah, move it on. This next one is probably one of the most popular metal covers, although it's not a particularly metal sounding, but, well, that was smooth. Well, I see there's white space at the beginning.
Starting point is 01:02:11 I didn't, because remember, you sent it in late. I did send it in late. Oh, now we have a piano. So it was playing. It was just blank. So this, this band is a metal band. I would say a new metal band, right? Would you?
Starting point is 01:02:20 New metal? Yeah, this is new metal. I think this is new metal. The band is. Yeah. This is a huge hit. Yeah, yeah. I don't remember the one.
Starting point is 01:02:30 The band is disturbed. Disturbed, that's right. Not to be confused with gobsmack. Gop smack. What was I thinking about the other day? Paint it black. Gob. Gob, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Gob did paint it black, but so did the Tea Party. They did a cover as well. Remember, we've had many channels. Conversations, a great way to break in is to do a cover. I was thinking of Evan Dando in the Lemonheads. And Mrs. Robinson.
Starting point is 01:02:58 That was a good cover. It's probably the most played song in CFMY in CFMY history for the Lemonheads. We still play it on the... And it's great, but I think they fucking hate it. And I think Paul Simon hates it. Yeah. Does he? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:10 So this came out in 2015. And it was a hit. This is a hit. This is a huge, huge hit. Because it's a great song, first of all. Yes. But I, can you imagine trolls?
Starting point is 01:03:23 My nine-year-old knows it's in trolls. Can you imagine like somebody says or, you know, lead singer of Disturbed says, you know what, I think I want to do a Simon and Garfunkel cover. And it starts,
Starting point is 01:03:39 it sounds like this. It's a good challenge. You know, it's weird because when I brought up the Lemonheads example, I forgot it's the same fucking band. Oh, yes, that's right. All right. Evan Daniels almost as handsome as Cam Gordon.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I just want to put it out there in the public. Is he? Almost. Very handsome man. Ready for a mind blow? This song is referenced by Rush and Spirit of Radio. What? The words of the prophet were written on the studio wall.
Starting point is 01:04:20 His reference directly in Spirit of Radio. It's all fucking connected. It is. There you go. Weird. I don't know if it was the octopus. Let's talking. Here's from Reddit.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Is the disturbed sound of silence cover really that bad in our Let's Talk music? The first thing is the disturbs cover is Boomer Trash. It's fine. Gen X trash. No, you know what? Yeah. Do you know what, though? I played it at the rock before I left to go to Virgin.
Starting point is 01:04:55 Making a cover, a metal cover of a song is like doing a ballad of a song. It's an easy target and it's always satisfying because we fucking love music in general, right? It's like in Donnie Darker when they did the Tears for Fear song. And it was, Mad World was gorgeous. Stu Stone stars in fucking Donnie Darko.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I saw Stu over there. It's what made me think of it. You're losing your mind over there. Look at you. But when you take a song and you break it down, it's beautiful. When you metalize a song, it's beautiful. When you orchestrate a song, it's beautiful
Starting point is 01:05:23 because music is just a great thing. It's really, some of it is. A lot of it is. I find that. So it's funny, you say I'm not a metal head. But I have, if you saw my playlist that I've created myself, like I have Angry Bob, all my playlists have a Bob in them. We're like six songs deep or something.
Starting point is 01:05:40 I don't think I've heard of metal song. I don't know. You're in the metal territory. You're in the hard rock area. This is hard rock, right? Ministry. It's just not a metal. It is a particular song, but this band and a vocal is considered a metal vocal. Well, down with the sickness is.
Starting point is 01:05:54 That is a metal song. Yeah. But this song's metal guys. Hardcore metal guys would be like, That's a pussy song. So, no. Is that word you said there? Oh, no, because it's context.
Starting point is 01:06:04 I called a vagina pussy. That's what got me in trouble. Oh, what I called a vagina pussy on Toronto Mike yesterday. It was one of your most classic moments. But it was a callback. I know. And it was referring to Moe Sizzlack performing cunnelingus on Katie Perry. Oh, you're going deeper now.
Starting point is 01:06:23 I'm sorry, like Mo as in Moe, like it's the most happened here. Yeah. So because I'm. I'm going to perform conalingis. That scene is why I used the P. It was the cutest thing. Oh, you use the P word. I'm like, no, because they're going to think I use the P word
Starting point is 01:06:36 Mike Stafford used. Yeah. This is a different P word. You used it for a different reference. But their reaction to you yesterday was classicly cute. Yeah, well, there's a lot of wonderful moments. And that is one of my favorite episodes in a long time. Until this one.
Starting point is 01:06:48 So can I kick out a metal song? Oh, sure. Go for it. I think we're going to get a metal song more. Oh, that's a metal song. I fucking love this song. Limit How much slower his air drumming is
Starting point is 01:07:14 I'm right in the stuff I'm checking my heart rate as the sound goes Okay Oh, fucking psyched That's why you're raised What you say Yeah I can just see his face too
Starting point is 01:07:29 So I'm not a metal guy I don't know if you know that I'm not a metal guy No I thought you were you really Embodied the spirit of Midtown Mike South Atobical Mike
Starting point is 01:08:11 Not a metal guy But this jam by Motorhead, Ace of Spades, to me, if you're going to hear just one metal song this year, this is the fucking one, man. Came out in October 1980. You could just, same year that I, my John Fox song,
Starting point is 01:08:25 this was happening at the same time. This is why the fucking world was... Yeah, that's so cool. So, Lemmy, by the way, you want to know what his birth? I don't know where Lemmy comes from. Yeah. Somebody, I don't know if it was confirmed.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I read online that somebody suggested that the phrase Lemmy lend me a quid till Friday. Lemmy lend me a quid till Friday is how Lemmy came to be. But I don't know if that's been, you know, I don't know if that's been sanctioned or whatnot. But because apparently Lemmy liked to borrow money
Starting point is 01:08:56 from people so he could play slot machines. But his real name was Ian Fraser Kilmeister. Kilmeister. There's no Lemmy in there. Wow. So Lemmy, who's on vocals here, That's Lemmy's voice. On guitar, fast Eddie Clark.
Starting point is 01:09:13 On drums, Phil. Filthy Animal Taylor. Q placed this at, not the Q on CBC, placed it at number 27 on the list of their 100 greatest guitar tracks. They wrote at the time, this song has an intro which wouldn't be out of place,
Starting point is 01:09:31 ushering in the end of the world. Wow. You sounded like you were doing like the iced tea thing with body count. Right about now. the motherfucker place to be. Ernie C. Ernie C.
Starting point is 01:09:41 It's my man. Blah, blah, blah. Yeah. There's a body count was Ice T's heavy metal side project. Yeah, yeah. And they introduced them at the end.
Starting point is 01:09:48 They had a song called cop killer. No, it was at the beginning. It's a whole song. No, no, no. The main song is only him introducing the band. That's so funny.
Starting point is 01:09:56 There's nothing to it. He had a song at the end of his rap album, my own, which was called Body Counts in the house. Yes. Cool. And then the next album
Starting point is 01:10:03 had the cop killer on it. Okay. But I'm just going to do a couple mind blows about this chap Lemmy. He plays bass too, by the way. Fucking Lemmy, no longer with us. But man, holy smoke. So, let's do this. This will be fun.
Starting point is 01:10:15 There's a band I like to shit all over. In fact, Iver didn't like this. I don't like that imagery. I know. Okay, what image do you like? That's fine. Whatever. I just, every now and then, I'm a visual thinker, and I'm just like, I don't need to. I said pussy yesterday, and I just said shit over here. Now that I want a podcast award, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:10:36 We'll see if you can name that band. Pistols? A bit of a mind blow. I think it's a mind blow. And when you hear the band, give a little time for the delay, and then I'll check in on the live stream. We got corrected on the live stream for the Catherine Weill debacle.
Starting point is 01:11:26 What band was it that he's related to? Catherine Wheel is Bruce Dickinson's brother. Not Rob Elford. You know, when you said it, I didn't want to call you up. No, it's me. I always say it wrong. I always say it wrong for some reason. The guy who flies his own airplanes? John Toro?
Starting point is 01:11:43 No. Like, John Denver? He's true. That's how he died. I thought he was skiing. The Catherine Wheel guy's brother, who's the lead singer for the heavy metal band, flies his own airplane. Oh, I don't know. Yeah, look it up.
Starting point is 01:11:59 All right. Back. Okay, you're ready for this? Yeah. Fuck Boots sauce. This is a Bootsaw song. This is Bootsaw? Hold tight.
Starting point is 01:12:06 Fill your boot sauce. What the? It's from their big album, Bull. It's called Hold Tight, and it features, of course, Lemmy. Okay? Okay. Is that a mind blow? So before Motorhead, I don't know much about Lemmy.
Starting point is 01:12:17 I had to dive in and learn about Lemmy. It's a mind. I don't know. We talk a lot about Boots sauce on the show, like Sunny Greenwich Jr. was just on. Is this a band you shit on? No, that was a band. Yeah. You don't listen enough to know that I shit on boot sauce.
Starting point is 01:12:29 But he's been on the show, you said. Yeah. I only had them on because I shit on that band. You should him on the show. Okay. So here's the quick mindblit. who was Lemmy before Motorhead? Do you have any idea who Lemmy was before?
Starting point is 01:12:40 Kilmeister. Just Kilmey. You said his name, yeah. I had no idea who Lemmy was before Motorhead. Sounds like Doctor Who's happening here. So we're going to learn something together. This was Lemmy before Motorhead. You buckle up? Great Space Coaster.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Gary Ganoo. Yeah. I hope one of you can name that band. This is Lemmy on vocals for a band before Motorhead. At some point, actually sing. Right, guys? Hit the post.
Starting point is 01:13:14 I could never hit the post. I have no idea where that fucking post is. This is Lemmy on vocals, okay? I can tell me, guys. The same guy from Mesa Spades. This is Hawkins. Oh, this is Hawkins? And the song is called Silver Machine.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Lemmy was the lead singer of Hawkwind. That's interesting. Before Motorhead. I've never heard of Hawkwind. I've heard of Hawkwind, and I've heard so many people say good shit about them. This is them. This is like their biggest fucking hit, I think. I don't think I knew that he was in the band.
Starting point is 01:13:50 but I've always heard people talk about the band. That's the lead vocalist. What's the song called? Silver Machine. So I do know the Silver Hawks, which was a cartoon. It was a cartoon that was on around the same time as Thundercats and Transformers. Transformers, Thundercats. Yeah, I used to watch those two.
Starting point is 01:14:09 But I don't remember Silver. 6.30 in the morning, WU.T.V. Silver Hawks. Channel 29, Buffalo, New York. Jeez. Telling you, man. This is cool. You're only a year younger than me. I should have known that.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Okay, so this is Lemmy before Motorhead. I grew in the food sauce. I'm an only child. I watched so much TV. Can I tell you my? Because obviously other than Aces Spades in Motorhead, obviously Aces Spades I love. I fucking love it.
Starting point is 01:14:32 It's got a big role in the first season of Severance. It is. The guy, the painter guy listens to. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember that. Then I stopped watching the show. I so did I, because everyone told me how fucking great it was. And I found it boring.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Yeah. I would fall asleep. Ask my wife. I don't fall asleep during any show. Yeah, really? I'd fall asleep during Severance. So this is how I know Lemmy. And then you're going to have...
Starting point is 01:14:53 And I just have something about the lyrics from Ace of Spades. Modern song you probably heard. That voice. You better get it right. Let's shake your blood. And this is a fairly recent, like, you know, relatively recent song that I knew. It was like my go-to lemmy because it was a song. I like, this is a project called ProBot.
Starting point is 01:15:58 The guy behind it, and that's why I thought you were very close with Queens and Sto-E. Very close. Because the guy behind this project has banged the drums in... Oh, what's his name? It's Dave Grohl. Oh, this Dave Grohl's heavy metal project. God, that's cool. And he brought in Lemmy to lead vocals on Shake Your Blood.
Starting point is 01:16:15 He has like Lemmy tattoos. This is a good fucking song. It's cool. And it's accessible. Just like Ace of Spades. Yes. This is great. So fucking Lemmy, man.
Starting point is 01:16:26 There you go. Lemmy's cool. Shut it down right now. Amazing. Do either you guys know how to play craps? It says a card game No, craps is Because it's a dice game
Starting point is 01:16:35 It is a poker jam, but There's a whole bunch of stuff about snake eyes It's about gambling It's all about gambling Do you, like I've been I think my wife knows it I love, I love the gamble I love, I love Euchar
Starting point is 01:16:47 And I love gambling But I, Euker always makes me think Like that it's an old lady's game He used the deal at the C&E I know I recognize I am a gambler But I'm way too cheap to do it
Starting point is 01:16:58 You gotta know when I There's a I actually made money last time I went to the States, and I was in Detroit. I went to the MGM Grand. And there's these bubble craps where it's like all automatic. So you're not at a table, it's all digital.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Oh, wow. And it's like, it looks like the pop-a-matic bubble from trouble, trouble. And you play it that way. And I made like in, in 10 minutes, I made $300. And I walked. Wow.
Starting point is 01:17:25 This kind of pop-a-matic is trouble. By the way, that the Hawkwind song I played. That was silver hawk-hawk. I like that. It was from 1972. Wow, I love it. Really? It's a good news from.
Starting point is 01:17:34 Some psychedelic space rock for you. Shout out to Fast Eddie Clark who was in the motorhead. Okay, so we are going to talk to Rob Pruse about his second jam. Any words before I kick it? It's not going to be a metal song. Is it going to be a metal song? Look at his face. It's whatever metal means to you.
Starting point is 01:17:54 It's true. It's true. I did say that. I would say kick it. Play loud. It's not metal, Rob. This guy. That's Silverhawks.
Starting point is 01:18:06 Yeah, you know what? I'm sayingly familiar, but I didn't watch it. I watched Transformers. It looks like Galaxian. I watched a lot of Thundercats. I love Thundercats. That's a little metal, isn't it? That's a drum.
Starting point is 01:18:19 That's a drum. You know what? That's metal, isn't it? That's a drum. You're embarrassing us all, Rob, please. Keep it loud. Keep it loud. Well, it is loud.
Starting point is 01:18:26 It's actually cranked. carrying a little bit of like cars you're confusing metal with yeah it sounds like cars just keep it going keep it's like the cover of cars Max Webster who does just listen here comes a book
Starting point is 01:18:41 okay hit it on post coming to you live from Mike's basement the little yellow house in Brampton here we go we're in the eyes
Starting point is 01:18:55 not metal I do know your bands sound like this when they sing their songs Rob Bruce I don't know how to do it's a little pretend Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Here we are. That's pretty good, I should, I should, you did that really? It's like Jew and Judas and Jesus Christ. It sounds like Devo. It does. But it's not. You already had a good guess. The Buggles.
Starting point is 01:19:19 No. No, no, no. Thomas Goldby. Yeah, Thomas Goldby. I do agree with you. Oh. It's not Howard Jones. No, Howard Jones is waiting.
Starting point is 01:19:28 We're in our cars. It was Gary Newman. Yeah. You already said, my car. Yeah. Oh, another song that was covered by a heavy band. Yeah. Cars.
Starting point is 01:19:35 That's right. And we used to play the shit out of that on the edge. Especially when you're doing traffic updates. Jessica and traffic. That's right. That was on Mojo. This is heavier. I'll give you that.
Starting point is 01:19:50 No, but he's making a mockery of this stuff. No, no. So this song is called... This is Brandon Flowers all over again. This song is called metal. Oh, fuck. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:58 This is like when Stu kicked out, sounded the police. Turn up a little bit. Well, March of the Pigs. That's right. Spring. Because Lord The title is metal
Starting point is 01:20:11 So this was the song that came into my head As soon as you said metal Gary Newman Yeah Who is older than Gary Oldman That's right He's older than Gary Oldman So and you were just talking about guys
Starting point is 01:20:21 Who fly planes Gary Newman is a plane owner and flyer as well So is the 179 So this is 1970 This is 1979 This is on his album That's a smashing pumpkin song
Starting point is 01:20:32 That's true This is the same album The album is called The B-Side DeCard cars. Yeah. This was, this was, the album was called... If you were at the 45, this is on the other side. Here in my car.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Yeah. So the album was called... Fear Factory? Yeah, Fear Factory. It was Fear Factory. It was Fear Factor. The album was called the pleasure principle. Yep. Once again, that first song that I played, which was called Metal Beat,
Starting point is 01:20:51 came out after this. So this is even a greater, more influential precursor to the electronic music, which became the post-punk era for UltraVox and Vienna and all the things that are happening. Right. This is a very influential song for a lot of people that came after. afterwards because it deals with science fictional subject matter. But we're not arguing.
Starting point is 01:21:11 What we're saying is this is not a metal jam. No, it's not a metal jam at all. It has metal in the title. Genre is New Wave, Post Punk, and Synthpop from what I can see. No, for sure. Oh, kickout. Early cards. Kickout number two.
Starting point is 01:21:22 Oh, there's more. Yeah. Oh, wait, there's more. But wait. Yeah, there's more. All right, here we go. Oh, this song's been covered by 9 inch nails, though. I bet you that.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I bet you that is heavier. Do you think it might sound as heavy as this? heavier. You're kidding me? Nine In Inch Nails doing metal? So the story is that Trent Reserv was a huge, huge fan of Gary Newman. And when he was recording the downward spiral, he listened to a Gary album every day. And he saw Gary.
Starting point is 01:21:49 And he was like, oh, you should come and join me on stage. So then Gary, Nine Inch Nails have done Gary Newman songs with Gary as well, which I thought was really cool. And they're heavy as shit. Oh, he's... So he actually recorded it. It's not just live. He did it. Oh, this might be at there.
Starting point is 01:22:04 We're listening to you right now. Is it now? Yeah. Oh, is that? Okay. You're ahead of the game. Oh, check it out. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:11 This is more a metal song than... I never think of Nine Inge Nails as a metal band, but I just think they're heavy. They're not a metal band. No, no. They're not. They're not at all. But it's a heavy sound, which I love. I hear Trent in there.
Starting point is 01:22:29 I hear myself today. Oh, well. I mean... Metal. The sound of metal. I should learn. Metal influences is what I'm reading. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I think when I, what did I hear the other day? Something off the fragile? I'm like, that's fucking heavy as shit, man. I love it. I know. That's like industrial heavy.
Starting point is 01:22:55 But isn't that what ministry is as well? Yeah, very industrial. I think, like I feel like when you talk about metal, this is why when you said it could be whatever means to you. If you're talking just metal, and I got some list there.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Like, is it just sepultura and, Slayer? Right, right, right. It's only Slayer and fucking... And we don't listen to that shit. Like, then you're got to go through it. And you always want it to be like songs
Starting point is 01:23:15 that come off the top of your head, things that inspire you right away. Which is why the disturbed song is fantastic. Most music fans know Motorhead's Ace of Spade. But you got to choose that. That is, uh, that is a song that, that, um...
Starting point is 01:23:28 Transcends the, the, uh, the genre. For sure, for the genre. For sure, for you. Thank you. Yeah. Because it's a big hit. Yes. Like, it's like so well, no one.
Starting point is 01:23:36 But yeah, it's no one. But yeah, it's no one. But I. I just thought it was cool to know that 9-inch actually recorded this. Okay, you have a third. I got a third song. Yeah, you play a bit of that one, too. No, this is good.
Starting point is 01:23:43 I know the song now. Not as heavy as the other one, though. No. It's got different. A popier. Yeah, but wait a bit more. It's not poppy. Like, well, 120 beats per minute here.
Starting point is 01:24:18 I could, I could mix so much shit out of this. Well, you know who this is? This is Africa Babata. Oh. Oh, cool. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so this was, this is done. So is this metal? This is the same song? Yeah, yeah, this is metal.
Starting point is 01:24:33 But he's got Gary Newman singing on this with him. Watch, it's so cool. Okay, that's cool. I know. That's really cool. I know. You could hear some prodigy going on here. Holy.
Starting point is 01:24:45 And then, that's Gary. This is good. And then here's Africa. That's cool, right? Back and forth. Yeah, that's really cool. What albums is on? Do you know?
Starting point is 01:25:02 It's just a single? It's just a single? Like, it's not on any, what year did these? 2004. 2004. So this was produced and mixed by a guy from a group, you might know, called Left. Field?
Starting point is 01:25:12 Yeah, Paul Daly. This is Paul Daly. Leftfield is like a, it was like a house, a house DJ. I never heard of them until this. Oh,
Starting point is 01:25:19 Leftfield's, I love them now. Carl Cox that I say Mara. So this is all a whole new world to me. So when I found out that Newman was with Africa Bobata and, and Paul Daly doing this,
Starting point is 01:25:30 I like, I'm listening to Left Field now. And it's like a whole new world like club music that I love. My buddy, I got a buddy David who's a big jazz guy and big vinyl guy. And we've talked to, and he's a Spoon's fan.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Yeah. But he's, this is the kind of stuff he'd really like, like, he's a crate digger. You know, you find these things. This is really cool. This is what's so cool about what Africa Bobata did. In 82, he took craft work, you know, the 81 album, and he put it into the whole, like, dance music world. And this is like, this is why I love all this shit, because it's all merging. I know it's not metal music.
Starting point is 01:25:59 No, no, no. It's electronic, and there's something in the metal, like idea. When Bob said it, I went right in there. I do like, he let the door open for you. So you are not in violation. I'm not in violation. Because as soon as you said, it can be whatever that means to you, I was like, I know what it means to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:15 And, well, I love, actually now that I got to remember to listen to that Africa, Africa Bambodic craftwork thing. Because that is like the gray album, which was, um, uh, the Beatles. Did you ever listen to the Beatles and Jay Z? That's the, that's the gray album. And he, and that he goes, he becomes, uh, Danger Mouse. Danger Mouse. And he, and he works with, he ends up doing stuff with, is it Cilo? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:37 I remember when. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I remember when. And also becomes broken bells? I think. Yeah. With Danger Mouse.
Starting point is 01:26:45 Danger Mouse is Broken Bells. Yes. And Danger Mouse did the gray album. That's right. So when I think of Africa Bambata taking the white album and the black album and making the gray album. It's just fantastic.
Starting point is 01:26:57 I'll tell you after. But yeah, that gray album is unbelievable. Oh, yeah. But this is... This is cool. His name is MC Chatterbox. This doesn't sound 2004, though.
Starting point is 01:27:10 I know. This sounds like an 80s, right? Yeah, yeah, that's an 80s. I forget about it. He's got that timeless sound, right? Yeah. So, look, can I shout out some people on the live stream here? Yeah, they're putting up with us today.
Starting point is 01:27:18 Andy, who's leading our Deadpool because Scott Adams died, and she picked Scott Adams. Oh, right. Created Dilbert. And then he said lots of racist things. He died today. Oh, she says, you see what's nice thing she's saying about, about Rob? Well, you can tell us. Oh, it's nice.
Starting point is 01:27:38 She said, Andy says, I. appreciate what Rob has done with this topic. Everyone loves Rob, okay? Everybody loves Rob. This is no March of the Pigs. That was the worst. That was Cam Gordon. No, Y, Y, Y, Z, Gord. This is literally a song called metal.
Starting point is 01:27:56 How is this not a metal song? Right. Well, there you go. That's very Brandon Flowers, though. But okay. Dan Jay, you set the bar, though, with Brandon Flowers. Like, Will always call it the Brandon Flowers. It's a flower jam.
Starting point is 01:28:08 No, it's true. Well, it's not as prolific as being hansons. Stu did it too. But it's up there. Stu did it when I wanted songs that shouted out other musicians. Yeah. Right? Like the John Lennon's song by Arkells.
Starting point is 01:28:23 Like there's certain songs that shout out other musicians. And sounded to police was not about the police, the band. Right. Okay. Who did that? Stu. No wonder you got rid of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:37 I fired those guys. But I want to shout out Dan Jay. He's on the live stream. I hope your knee is feeling better. Greg W. is on the live stream. Love me some Greg W. Everybody knows that.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Jeremy Hawkins. Is there? Because Jeremy Hopkins says, now's the time on Sprockets when we dance. You're bringing in the dance song? Yeah, no. I talked to Paul Myers once about doing a Sprockets musical with his brother, Mike.
Starting point is 01:29:02 You talked to Mike Myers? No, I talked to Paul about with Mike. Yeah, yeah. I actually got the John Candy book for Chris. Christmas. Did you get it? Yeah, I got it for Christmas. I haven't read it.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Yeah. I've been busy with people dying. It's only two weeks into the new year. Like it's weird. Like it's still, we're out of holiday. But I'm exhausted already. I'm exhausted. Canada Kev is on the live stream.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Hey, Kev. Smoke them if you got them. Leslieville, even though she did make a snarky, I think it was a down, what do you call that? Thumbs down. That's when I told, when I confirmed, we were kicking out metal songs. It's not for everybody. I don't think Leslie wanted to do any metal songs.
Starting point is 01:29:35 This next song will not be for everybody. Mike, who is a metal head. He's here to fact check us, to be honest. South Jersey Rick. All right. Love me some South Jersey Rick. Thai guy who may be Ty the Christmas guy from retrofestive. Oh.
Starting point is 01:29:52 So shout out to Thai. I want to kick out the second jam by Bob Wollett. You ready, Bob? Yeah, let's do it. Just like hit it. It's a short song so we can just like probably listen to most of it. And everybody's going to love it. Oh, no, wait.
Starting point is 01:30:05 Oh, did I get out of an order? I can change it. I can change it. Yeah. Can we change it? Can we save that for the last one? Oh, I brought you down? No.
Starting point is 01:30:13 No, I'm here. You can't. Oh, yeah, because you soloed. What did you? There you go. You solo. That was an accident.
Starting point is 01:30:18 Yeah, yeah. You soloed that. Technical difficulties. We could hear it. It wasn't even, no recording, but I couldn't hear Bob through the head.
Starting point is 01:30:23 No, yeah. So this is going away. Yeah. I'm sorry. That was, everything was like, I was busy.
Starting point is 01:30:28 Yeah. But you have a song before your third. Um, okay. Because it came late. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Yes. You'll play that one? No, no, no, no, hang on.
Starting point is 01:30:35 I've got to look at what I've sent now. Do you want to do yours? Well, I can do mine. Don't you do yours and I'll find, I'll figure out where I am. Because I'm kicking out another F-O-TM jam. You guys ready? Do it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Hey, bass. How old can you go? Death Row. What a brother knows once again back is the incredible. Rime animal, the incredible. The Incredible. The Public enemy number one. 5-0 said freeze.
Starting point is 01:31:04 And I got numb. Can I tell them? Never really never had a gun. But it's a wax that's a terminated. X-Bun. Now they got me in the cell, I reckon they tell Because the brother like me says, Well,
Starting point is 01:31:13 ready? What you're all to listen to you. Power the people say. Make a miracle. Deep pump the lyrical. Black is back all in. We're going to win. Check it out.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Yeah, y'all, come on. Here we go again. Turn it up. Bring the noise. Fact is corrupt like a senator. Soul in a rope when you treat it like soap on a rope because the beats and the lives are so dope. So there's a band that gets name checked in this song.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Yes. So this song, which is a song, I'm not enough to play the original in a minute, but it's a public enemy song called Bring the Noise. I feel like I'm talking to Rob Pruce here. It's from, it takes a nation of millions. It's the only album of theirs I've ever known. Okay, 1988.
Starting point is 01:32:06 Yeah. Masterpiece. Okay. Anthrax loved it, but they get shouted out in the song. There's a name check of anthrax coming up here, but maybe you hear it better than the original, but they were basically like, let's do a metal version of Bring the Noise. And the drummer, this guy named Charlie Benante, Benante, sent a demo to Chuck D of their version of Bring the Noise.
Starting point is 01:32:35 And Chuck D's like digging it. He's digging the inventive guitar interpretations of his original samples that were James Brown samples, funky drummer, for example. And then they decided, let's fucking do this thing. And you're hearing it now. Anthrax with Public Enemy. It's super cool. A metal version of Brain the noise. This was like the precursor.
Starting point is 01:32:58 Do you remember the... Judgment Night. Thank you. I still play it all the time. The Judgment night soundtrack was the first, like, where they combined a rap. But Walk This Way was the first. Yes. But I'm saying a whole album is the idea.
Starting point is 01:33:11 Who did Pearl Jam? Pro Jam did something with somebody on that. Sonic Youth? It was, yeah. Yeah. Cyprus? Yes. Pearl Jam with Sonic Youth.
Starting point is 01:33:19 Is that who it was? So that was two rock bands then, not two. I thought it was like more rap. No, no. Pro Jam never did. Cypress Hill with Sonic. Yes. And then the Spawn soundtrack has
Starting point is 01:33:30 filter with Crystal Method. And that's a kick-ass song. There's a bunch of the like crossover stuff. This is like again, like, so this is early on and then I think all of this is the precursor to new metal. Yeah. Is this your jam?
Starting point is 01:33:47 No, this is his. My jam. This is your jam. We switch. We switch spots. We switched spots. Because I wanted to figure out where I was because I said things were in the wrong order. I got to. I'm going to play the it takes a nation a million's version but we got this hear the drummer get wicked here the drummer get wicked
Starting point is 01:34:00 here the drum again Oh it's got that beat Yeah That's the class of Yeah Right that's James Brown Funky drummer Yeah
Starting point is 01:34:08 Yeah Here the drum Here the drum Here the drum Here the drum to get wicked Too black Too strong If you only knew
Starting point is 01:34:22 How many times I played this fucking element Really? I know every word on that Wow Did I tell you I got sex packets on vinyl for Christmas? I just got my...
Starting point is 01:34:31 Digital Underground. Yeah, okay. The Humpty Dance? Oh, really? Really? Well, that's the big song. I just wrote about the song that kind of... Well, first of all, the single to...
Starting point is 01:34:41 Do what you like, yeah, yeah. Do what you like. I know you have it. I know, because go ahead and eat some cereal. Yeah, you do what you like, kid. Every time the kids are fucking hungry, you know what I say to them? If you're hungry, get yourself something to eat.
Starting point is 01:34:53 And if you're dirty, then go take a bath. Check it out. It's one of my favorite albums of all time. I love sex packet. So I just want to say, I know you've had, you have you had Chuck D on your show? Now, I'm not on my show. No, no, I wish.
Starting point is 01:35:10 No, but, you know, this is, I know it's pretty impressive. When I was at 94-9, The Rock, I did interview Rob Carri Giano, who was a member of Anthrax for 2001 through 2013. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:35:27 And he was also in Volbeat. Wow. Yeah. It's no Scott Ian, but that's still exciting. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, that was actually in, they were opening for Metallica, and it was in the bowels of the skydome. And I got to see Metallica afterwards.
Starting point is 01:35:45 Wow. Did you meet them? I've never met Metallica. I saw Metallica at the opera house, though. Wow. Holy shit. Yeah, that was insane. Well, hold that fire, because I almost played it for a moment.
Starting point is 01:35:54 It's coming back. But I am going to blow your mind. maybe that I heard this song first on it takes a nation of millions of home is back. But did you know, Public Enemy actually put this on the soundtrack for a movie called Less Than Zero that came out in 1987.
Starting point is 01:36:10 So this was actually released as... You know that book? Oh, it's a famous book, though. Yes. It's one of the darkest fucking books ever. I love it. Let's shout out the bomb squad. And this is like maybe one of the best examples
Starting point is 01:36:23 of the bomb squad kicking total off. Here it is. Yeah, music here comes The anthrax shed out There you're going to. Brett Easton Ellis. He's the same guy who did... He did American Psycho, did he?
Starting point is 01:36:37 Yes. Yeah, oh my God. So he also did less than zero. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so this is actually, this song was released for that before it takes a nation. That is a good soundtrack. Holy crap.
Starting point is 01:36:50 Yeah. Okay, so one more, I'm going to bring down the original Bring the Noise. Wow. And I'm going to just, this is kind of like, just like a bonus. I won't say it's a fun fact, but it's interesting. We should talk about it.
Starting point is 01:37:01 Brady-Stine Ellis is part of the literary brat pack. Give me some guitars, funk. Do-do. I love guitars. Great. Just get in the house. One fucking hell. Seattle, mate.
Starting point is 01:37:15 She's everything. A little biscuit. I, I thought you were going to be doing break stuff at some point. Oh, bass. How low can you go? Death Row. I don't want to be a bit kid.
Starting point is 01:37:29 It's incredible. Romano. I don't hate Limbiscuit. At all, at all. Not even Ramoli. I like rearranged. I've seen them in concert, first of all. I've never seen them.
Starting point is 01:37:40 I would see them. I like rearranged. I like some limbus. He's an asshole, but they have half a dozen bangers. Do they? Oh, yeah. Remember we played you the face cover? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:52 That's them. We talked about it earlier in this way. Yeah, plus we talk. But I actually think that. They have, honestly, half a dozen songs that are killer tracks. I really think so. West Borland is a fucking genius as a guitarist. Their guitarist is insane.
Starting point is 01:38:11 When you listen to what he does, like, again, I'm not a musician. Yeah, yeah. I don't hate them. This is Fred Durst. Now, this I don't, yeah, I mean, this can fuck off. With a band, you'll remember, called Stained. Oh, yeah. I remember that band.
Starting point is 01:38:25 It's been a while. Yeah, they had a couple of big bangers. That was one. And then did he go on to do some country stuff? Oh, yeah, the other big banger from that band is, I'm on the outside. I'm looking in. I can see through you.
Starting point is 01:38:43 See your true colors. Because inside I'm ugly, ugly like you. You guys. Inside you're ugly. You guys to start a band. They did that live. Can we do this song? Lodders.
Starting point is 01:38:57 I'm feeling those letters. Family values to her. I had that fucking album. Can we do this at the Alma Combo? Can we sing this song? You know what? To me, to me, the Elma combo gig, which is May 21, right?
Starting point is 01:39:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you need a DJ? Well, I actually have, what happened is, and I told the story on other episodes, Bob hasn't listened. But a woman has paid... Two children and three cats right now. A woman has paid
Starting point is 01:39:19 for me to have a night at the Elma combo. So it's really... Oh, so, wow. Yeah, like, yeah. So you have a budget? I don't have a budget, but, It's been paid for and I didn't pay any money. So she's rented the venue.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Yeah. I didn't know this. I knew this. I didn't know what was happening. It was on the chat. Yeah. So I consider it the way I'm looking at it and we're talking in like mid-January. So at some point I have to have magic practice.
Starting point is 01:39:40 I have five months. Let's say 90 minutes. There's a 90-minute blob. I need to craft something that is interesting, compelling, entertaining. And really, it could be anything. Oh, I would, if you, I mean, I'm sure you're getting lots of offers. I'd love to help you with this. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I have one offer. No, no. I would love to help you put this together. because I'm like I've done this like for radio stations and I've done it because I'm in the form yeah you're in the form of my mind I go and I leave myself Google notes on bike rides we've did the Humble and Fred Christmas shows live at the horseshoe we did I've I've out to the headstones yeah yes and yes well specifically just Hugh there was no it was just you um but yes shout out to cereal Joe mistake is a boy band didn't I serial Joe yeah cereal Joe
Starting point is 01:40:27 How long will it take to your dreams of... Is it late 98? Managed by FOTM, Kim Clark, Champness. He took him to Woodstock 99. Really? They played Woodstock 90 on? 99. And these guys played break stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:46 And ruined the whole place. I'm feeling... I feel sick. And then Red Hot Chili Peppers came on and played fire. Which is on Mother's Milk. Still my favorite. That's a great album, of course, of Jimmy Hendricks. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:56 So there's a lot of Bring the Noise activity there, but we're now going back to ball. Yeah, let's go back to the one. You're like the first one? No, yeah, the one that you thought was my last one. So that was your second jam. Yeah. Yeah, so it's my second coming.
Starting point is 01:41:09 The one that you just want that, no. You want the one that you said, play this before. No, I would, no, we'll save that for last. The one that we heard from the band that just got mentioned. Yeah, so before we play the band that just got mentioned, we'll play that other one just because I wanted to mention something. But is this the one? No, I don't want that one.
Starting point is 01:41:23 I want the other with a short one. The 233? Yeah, that's it. Okay. Yeah. There we go. What is this? See, I like this band, too.
Starting point is 01:41:37 Who? I just saw them last summer. Wow. Prison sex. No, what? No, I mean, it's another song I like by this thing. There's nothing to do with this song. That's a song by this band.
Starting point is 01:41:51 It's a prodious clip. What? Tool does prison sex. I don't think so. I think it's this band. You were so wrong. Look it up. Judges
Starting point is 01:42:00 I know Trust me Prison Why do I think It's on like toxicity? No It's not
Starting point is 01:42:05 This is System of Adel Oh Prison song Is what I mean Prison song My point My point
Starting point is 01:42:16 Oh Oh That's They don't look at Well I'll tell you a little About them I love it
Starting point is 01:42:32 I want to hear I want to hear the end I got You swamp It's right of my pocket Oh A rick Her in arms
Starting point is 01:42:46 Baby Yeah She They're Armenian, right? Just like Cher. That's right. Sherylins are really. And the Kardashian.
Starting point is 01:42:58 And Sona Mosefian, Conan O'Brien's assistant. Mind blow right there. Whoever the fuck that is. Guys, you want to hear the end here. We used to play this at the clubs all the time. This is huge. That's the debut single from
Starting point is 01:44:03 System of a Down. From L.A., Armenian, American guys, how great is that? Yeah, yeah, no. That, yeah, great band. It's funny, because that, so that's in from 1998? This is 98. It reminds me of Faith No More from like 92. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's that same
Starting point is 01:44:19 feeling. Yes, but more politically charged. Like, this is actually reminds me of Chuck D in public energy. Yeah, for sure. Or rage against the machine. Sure, of course. Yeah, of course. It's a prison song, not prison sex. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, okay, that's different. Politically charged great songs on toxicity. Which has, of course, of course, the big song. They have, uh, not, not bombs over Baghdad.
Starting point is 01:44:37 but they have a bomb song as well. That it's B-O-B as well. They're very, very politically, politically active. Is this band still together now? So I just saw them last summer. They were on hiatus for quite some time. Did they sing songs politically still? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:51 I hope that they're making new music to go with the... They have not made new music in over 10 years. Oh, that's right. Yeah, they have not. What's interesting about this, it's funny, this song's been described as, I love this, a spazzy jazz a spazzy jazz spattered
Starting point is 01:45:12 noise rock freak out so this came out and then all of a sudden they're opening for Slayer they're opening for Metallica and they're opening for they were on the summer sanitarium tour and then they were on the second stage at Oz Fest in 98 as well I saw them the deaf tones opened for them
Starting point is 01:45:28 up at the Rogers up at Rogers Stadium or as I call it Rogers scaffolding because it's just scaffolding up there. And, yeah, it's like, when I thought about metal, like this is like probably the heaviest music I love. Yeah, it is heavy. It is heavy.
Starting point is 01:45:44 It's heavy. Their big hit, of course, chop suey. Yes, chop suey. I know that one. Wake up. Yeah. Put on a little makeup. My kids know that song.
Starting point is 01:45:50 That's so funny. They love that song. I leave my keys upon the table. Yeah. You wanted to. Um, they're just, they're just great. They're really, uh, so cool. And it's fun music.
Starting point is 01:45:57 If there's a, uh, if there's a, again, back in the day, it was Club 102 Saturday nights or out of the Phoenix or out of at the kingdom out in Burlington. Girlington. Place would go nuts. It was like for that song, man. There was a couple other bands that I thought about playing from then that were metal. Like there's a band called Mindless Self-Indulgence, which did all, yeah, the corporate, uh,
Starting point is 01:46:20 they had a song. Bring the pay. They did, they did, they did, they, they did, they, it was all covered. It's, and, uh, bring the pain. Um, but you know what's really cool? Like, because, because you chose this topic and when you talk about playing this in clubs and stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:31 And I love the fact that you, both of you guys, because it's your, generation more than mine, I think. You have this metal side of it and like it's like an alternative side, but then you have like the heavy, but then you have the heavy like dance, rap, hip hop kind of stuff as well. And they do, there's an energy between them. Like the public enemy seemed to be the start of that. And then it kind of all merges together, but it all coexists. And I think it's so cool.
Starting point is 01:46:55 One. And before I do my last one, like I was, there's so many different subgenres of it. And it really all goes back. I mean, I think we could, I'll probably all agree. It's Black Sabbath. I think Black Sabbath is the beginning of metal of metal music. And Zeppelin's in there. But if Oz, like Black Sabbath is the beginning of it.
Starting point is 01:47:12 And you can, and then you can just watch it branch out from there. You hear the inspiration from their early records. What they were doing in the 60s is insane. When you listen to what they were doing, you're right over there, you yana, we keeping you up? No, it's stretching my face. Stop staring at me.
Starting point is 01:47:28 I was staring at you. I look over here. It's not a radio, it's not a television show. Turn off the lives That was my second That's amazing. That was fun. Okay, but when you sent me one recently
Starting point is 01:47:42 that you said played before number three, you meant play before the one that's now. They actually have nothing to do with each other. I have a little wrap-up. I thought I was maybe going last or whatever. It doesn't matter. But I just have a like a... Well, you can now go less.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Like we can shift positions now. So because you're the birthday boy. So you're going for your last jam, Rob Pruss. Yes. Then I'm going to go do my last. And then Bob will I finishes it up. Days before he turns the big 5-0, which is a milestone birth. Can I just say 1976 was a great year?
Starting point is 01:48:13 Like, because I'm old, just an older enough than you guys, and because my memories are so important. I remember 86, right? So like, no, but that's like my 10 year. When I was 10, I remember the music. I remember the Transformers was huge. 1986. So we're now talking.
Starting point is 01:48:28 76. But also 86. So 40 years ago was when I quit the band, quit the spoons. It was actually like this week, four years ago. So we did our last gig on New Year's Eve in Calgary as a Spoons. And then the next week we had a band meeting and then Derek and I left the band. Can I ask my question? Was there a Spoons Canadian Top 40 hit after you left the band?
Starting point is 01:48:50 I don't know. I think there might have been. But you're not sure. But I'm not sure. There might not have been. There might not have been. But I think there probably was one on the next album they did after our Derek and I left, there might have been one.
Starting point is 01:49:02 but I don't really know. Meanwhile, Honeymoon Sweet had a monster hit with you on keys. Well, love changes everything. Was it a big hit?
Starting point is 01:49:13 Canadian hit. So Bridges over borders. That was the album. That was your last album. No, they did that album. So they did that after their hit on that. There was a song called.
Starting point is 01:49:21 Vertigo Tango in 88. Went to number 79. Okay. And it had when time turns around. I remember that on much music. That had some. And water. Water.
Starting point is 01:49:32 Water line and sooner or later. Yeah. But not low top 40, I think. They don't have charting. Oh, okay. They don't have charts. And none of those songs resonate with us. But what I was saying, because you remember 86.
Starting point is 01:49:43 I remember 76 so vividly. So yeah. Because like that was the year I was in a band for the first time. You were 10 years old. You're 10 years old. You're your kiss cover band. Yeah. We were called Black Diamond.
Starting point is 01:49:52 Well, so you know my favorite band, Pearl Jam, Mike McCready. Yeah. He's about the same age as you. He's about the same age as you. He's just like a year older. Yeah. And he was in a kiss cover band as well. well and doing the same thing like right around the exact same time.
Starting point is 01:50:05 And then the weird also coincidence is that... And the Sloan guys too, I think. All of us. It's our generation. Two days before, in 76, two days before I turned 11, I still have the tape recording of me playing the song Mamma Mia. Wow. Which is like a weird... Isn't that?
Starting point is 01:50:17 Yeah. Your association with that. With the play... When we make the documentary about you, do you have footage of that? No, I have a tape recording. I don't have footage. I don't have a footage. Because Fred was saying part of the problem with the scene for Y doc is there was zero video of these
Starting point is 01:50:29 Brampton days. I have lots of audio stuff, you know, but I could do. an audiobook. But you don't, you know what? You don't need video. Look at, uh, what's his name? The jazz and baseball. Ken Burns. Ken Burns. Just Ken Burns. Just Ken Burns. You just Ken Burns. And you zoom in. And yeah. And they call that the Ken Burns. Yeah. They call that Pan and scan. That's right. Yeah. Just give it the, give it the Ken Burns treatment. Any words before your final jam, Rob Bruce. Yes. Yes. So this was the, this band was the third, uh, right off the top of my head.
Starting point is 01:50:57 I was like, I'm going to pick a song from this band and this is the song I chose. Oh, yeah. You know what? Yeah. Yeah, I like it. Absolutely. She's a good. She's the passionate one. Shear heart attack. Right.
Starting point is 01:51:45 Yeah, third album. I am shocked that Rob Pruse is kicking out queen. Come on. I know. It's like me. It's like me doing it. Let's do this. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:52:13 I know. We play all the songs. That's what gets me in trouble with Spotify. All right. Oh, yeah. Okay, we'll talk. We'll talk. That's right.
Starting point is 01:52:46 We don't want that. We're not a radio station. No, that's true. We're an educational program. You're right. That's true. We're educating. My Moby interview that I did,
Starting point is 01:52:54 I'm proud that I put out, is I think it was taken off of Spotify, but it's on the other ones still. Oh, really? Yeah. The other ones are mine. A lot of them are. You turn up just a little bit because we're getting the end.
Starting point is 01:53:03 There's up or those down. I know. Here comes down. Come on. Now, how fucking cool is that? That's not a metal band, but that's a metal song.
Starting point is 01:53:17 They're short, there are, no, that's a hard rock song. Yeah. Not a metal song? Here, listen, in 2009, it was named the 38th The best hard rock song of all time by VH1.
Starting point is 01:53:26 Yeah, it was hard rock. He's ignoring you. Q Magazine describes Stonehole crazy. Hard rock is not metal, right? There's a lot of hard rock. Q magazine described Stoneho Crazy as thrash metal before the term was invented. There you go.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Come on now. You found a source. You found a source. Yeah, yeah. And it was also the first song that Queen ever played live as a band. So Freddie had started writing the song before the band was together.
Starting point is 01:53:48 He joined the band. And then it's one of the few. few songs that they're all credited as writers together. I think it's fucking cool. Yeah, no, it's great. Yeah, yeah. Okay, play my next, play the next one that comes after that. Hit it. Yeah. Yeah. Same song. Same song? Cover? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Yeah. Let's do that. I like this game. I don't know what the five. You're going to know in one second. As soon as the voice vocal start. Yeah. Oh, it's Metallica. That's right. Oh, is this one the one where they do the thin Lizzie cover? Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, yeah. They do the Whiskey in the jar. And they also,
Starting point is 01:54:31 boys are back in town. Also, the big one was Turn the page. Turn the page, that's right. That was a big hit, I think. So, for me, my introduction to Metallica
Starting point is 01:54:43 was in 1992 after Freddie Mercury died, and they played at the Freddie Mercury tribute concert, and the black album had just come out, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Well, that was a huge album. So, you know, I don't know if you guys have seen the whole concert, but it's Wembley Stadium, and it's all these dudes playing, like, singing Freddy songs, but it took so many different people
Starting point is 01:55:02 to sing what Freddy was. And when I saw Metallica, they did this, they just don't go crazy. But, uh, what's the name? James did it with Tommy Iami from Black Sabbath with the guys from Queen as well. It was unbelievable. So I was like, we're going to get to it.
Starting point is 01:55:17 But my first exposure to Metallica is the song Bob is going to kick out. Really? Oh, that's cool. So, like, what an inspiration, though, like to know that all these guys were inspired by Queen as well. So for them to cover this, like, this I think is super fucking cool. Well, you know,
Starting point is 01:55:30 I mean, the Metallica story is like, they, I'll do it. Actually, I can talk about it when I do my, because I'm doing a Metallica story. Spoiler alert.
Starting point is 01:55:36 Yeah, yeah. Spoiler? Okay. But you have a third song. I have a third song. I have a third song. Yes, sir. It's just another version,
Starting point is 01:55:41 which I think was really cool. This is not very different than the. No, no, not at all. This one, though. Turn it up. That's like Skinner. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:55:55 All right. Big wheels. Keep on turning. It's a remix. It's a remix by Chad Resner. Oh, okay. In 1991. Really?
Starting point is 01:56:25 Can you believe it? Freddie was still live at 91. Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah. This was released after he died there. It's not... You can hear the beats. It's all trend, right?
Starting point is 01:56:41 It's not quite different enough. I want it... The beats, though. Yeah, as it goes on. I know. But basically he just added his shit to it, yeah. On top of it, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:50 It's cool. I like it. There's a good breakdown in the middle. This is just the song normal. Yeah. And then... He lets it go, but then he brings back. He's got a real chug like a train.
Starting point is 01:57:03 Yeah, exactly. And then there's a cool thing at the end of it as well. We're talking for educational purposes. All those beats and things he throws in. Yeah. It gets thicker. Yeah. Dang dong, dang don't.
Starting point is 01:57:28 Exactly. Yeah. Is it a hard rock song? It's a heavy metal song. It's good. Well, they call Nine Inch Nails Industrial Metal, right? Yeah, industrial metal. Yep.
Starting point is 01:57:41 Yep, I've got a whole thing on... There's a sad lack, though, of Norwegian death metal tonight. I thought we'd be bringing... Oh, you wait. Turn this up. This is cool. Yes, sir. That's just trend.
Starting point is 01:57:53 Yeah. Drag races. It's got a train. Jesus, felt my heart. Do you ever see... I've seen nine-inch nails anybody? I have had that live. It's pretty amazing.
Starting point is 01:58:09 I just think it sounds such a cool... Oh, no, it's great. Yeah, yeah. It modernized it, for sure, you know? Yeah. You see one to be My final metal jam is going to be It's going to sound like
Starting point is 01:58:23 Woossey Rock next to this Yeah But not pussy rock Because I almost said pussy rock I have a reputation now You do That's right You got a potty mouth
Starting point is 01:58:33 But there's two types of pussy If I will There's the kitty cat pussy You know what I think it's how you say it It's the way It's the emphasis It's the context
Starting point is 01:58:42 Yeah you know what I think Pussy rock No You know what The way the word Comes out of your mouth You have to listen to the two
Starting point is 01:58:48 rush me in Sharia yesterday. Because the way the work comes out of your mouth, Mike, it's awesome. It's all the pudding. I don't say the C word. No. Like Humble Howard did in the first episode of Humble and Fred. Did he? He did that he kept going, he was excited he could say it.
Starting point is 01:59:00 Wow. And he did. Ricky Jervais says. Was the Irish? British say it all the time. They say it for breakfast. Yeah. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:07 They say, um, the Irish say the C word like Cowboys say howdy. Yeah. That's true. That's Mike Wilmot. That's Mike Wilmot. That's not Willmont. That's not Willmont. Not Willmore.
Starting point is 01:59:17 Not. No, no. That's right. That's no, not Willett. There's no, there's no, there's a Michael
Starting point is 01:59:23 Willett, actually. He's a cousin of mine. I've never met. So, okay, that ending was cool. If you're a queen fan, you know that Trent,
Starting point is 01:59:35 like, mixed in those drum beats are from like other queen songs, which I think is really cool. So he took samples and bits of other stuff and threw it in too, which is really cool.
Starting point is 01:59:42 And in 92? A lot harder to do than it. I know. Cutting up shit. That's right. No digital. So pre-grunge, may I tell you a little bit
Starting point is 01:59:49 about my, myself here if you don't mind. Oh, I, like, gather around, kids. Old man, Mike is going to tell us as was the style at the time.
Starting point is 01:59:57 So, I had an onion tied to my belt. Grunge takes over my musical listening life in 91. Yep. Okay. And it's really, it's heavy grunge for years. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Uh, fucking love. Has it changed? We know you. What's your most, I added some system of a demo? What's your most recent band that you like? That's a great question.
Starting point is 02:00:15 What's the most, yeah, like, the white stripes. Wow. Yeah, that's like, that band is 25 years.
Starting point is 02:00:19 old. Do you guys play Wolf Alice? I need to think about it for a minute. They're decent. You know what? I really got into ubiquitous energy seeker. That's only like 15 years. 20 years ago.
Starting point is 02:00:29 Really? Yeah. I don't even know that name. I never. USS. They're from Peterborough. I'm going to go 15 because 0.9, I feel they break. That's the last time.
Starting point is 02:00:36 That's the last thing. Let me think on it, though. I'm not done yet. This is an embarrassing moment, but I need to think on it. Okay, 2020's, what I mean, you mean that I personally dive into, you know, you're going to put on, because you like it. You're going to put on it. You're going to put on it.
Starting point is 02:00:49 Yeah, okay, so purposefully listening to new music. It could be, what about new? Yeah, because the first thoughts, like White Stripes, I think, about Arcade Fire. And you're right, these are old bands here. Absolutely, fucking old bands here. Geez, Louise. You have to go to like a Spotify playlist or... Well, that's what I'm looking at right now.
Starting point is 02:01:12 I don't have Spotify, but... You don't use Spotify? On the top of your head, it's harder these days. Right, because... I'm trying to think. Well, for me, I was like a lot of old stuff. Well, yeah, like for me, I thought the new Robin, have you heard the new Robin? I saw her on her New Year's Eve gigs day.
Starting point is 02:01:25 She was great. Yes, in Brooklyn. She was also at Times Square. What I hate it. Yeah. And then, yeah, she went from there. Um, but she doesn't count because she's from the 90s. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:33 But, uh, like I put, I will listen to Chapel Rhone. Yeah, but purposefully, because I listened to it a lot because it. No, no, I put it on. And I enjoy Chapel Row. I have it on. I have it on vinyl. Yep. I like Chapel Rone.
Starting point is 02:01:46 I like this bit the band I, yard act. Oh, you love yard act. of Yard Act. They're good. We need new music from them actually. But in my defense, I've never claimed to the Dave Hodge of podcaststers. No,
Starting point is 02:01:57 no, yeah. That's true. The band Destroyer, which actually is a guy from, uh, mass pornographers or whatever, the new pornographers.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Yeah, mass romantic's their song. Yeah, he's from new pornographers. Vampire weekend, although they're pretty old. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:12 15 years old. Anyways, anyways, I was just curious. Last dinner. I'm still thinking it's the last dinner party. If you were listening to them. They're okay.
Starting point is 02:02:18 I think they're okay. I get a little bored by. them? Fontaine's DC. Yes. Fontaine's DC. Actually, you'll like Fontains,
Starting point is 02:02:24 DC. They're Brit poppy. They got a little bit of a, the one single they have sounds like born slippy. Oh. Underworld. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:33 I like that very much. From train spotting. Yeah. Royal Lotus. I actually, love Royal Lotus. I'll own it, which is, yeah,
Starting point is 02:02:39 most of what I listen to is from, I do have some earlier. Hey, but you know what? Who cares? That's okay. Because I, I'm still obsessed with music from 1972.
Starting point is 02:02:46 But Bob is thinking less of me now. No, no, you kidding me? Because I'm about to kick out a song from 89. That's good, that's fine. That's fine. My song's from 89, too, or 88.
Starting point is 02:02:56 89 is not that long ago. So I, yeah, so I was big on appetite for destruction, by the way. But I was into hard rock and hip hop before grunge. What year did the appetite for destruction come out? 87? You know what? Can I just tell you a little quick story? I got my kids into Paradise City last week.
Starting point is 02:03:12 When we were in L.A. recording the Honeyman Sweet album that I did with them, and we were in a studio. You've mentioned this. You heard it. You told me. You've told me the story. I don't know if we was on air. And our manager, we were, I was driving in his car, like, in L.A. down, like, the Coast Highway from the studio. It's like, kind of a movie.
Starting point is 02:03:29 Sunset Bolivar. And he just had a cassette of appetite for destruction. And he's like, this is like changing rock and roll. And we were making our, like, 80s rock still, you know, which was great. It still sounded great. But there was something different happening. Yeah, like, what's the opening track on that? Like on that.
Starting point is 02:03:44 Is it welcome to the jungle? It's welcome to the jungle. Yeah. So you put him welcome. You're doing like, ma, rah, rah. We're doing love changes everything. You know what that reminds me of? Who was it?
Starting point is 02:03:52 Who's the drummer in Sloan? Andrew. The old drum. The old drum. It's true. Andrew Scott, I think. So Andrew Scott talks about, and it might not be, it might be Patrick Penland. I'm going to change it to Patrick.
Starting point is 02:04:02 I think Patrick Pentland sat here last year and told me they were putting together, coax me? What's the album? One chord to another? No. The second one. So the one after smeared, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:15 It's funny how it was. Sub pop? It was, no, it was a bigger. label actually. But the guys said, hey, this is another band we're pushing and they gave him Weezer's blue album. So they're done. Like it's done. And then he heard Weezer's
Starting point is 02:04:29 blue album and he's like, that's what we were we should have done. Like Patrick's like, oh, that's the direction we should have gone. And they made this like beetle. He didn't like that album. But that's what happens, right? Is all of a sudden there's something else comes up out of the woodwork. Well, on the pop size, Amy Winehouse or Annadale and now Chapel
Starting point is 02:04:44 Rome this time around, you know? We were talking about 92, only a few years later, when I first discovered and saw Metallica play out and I was in Calgary. I was on the Phantom Tour and I drove out to Calgary. Twice removed by the way. Why do I struggle with him? Fucking twice moved. Wow. But I saw it Metallica. I went to HMV. I'm like, what's new what can I listen to? Yeah. And the guy
Starting point is 02:05:03 gave me a Pearl Jam record. Oh, this is the new thing. So was it 92? Was it versus? It would have been no. Yeah, so it was versus. It was the first whatever is that. So the first is 10. 10? It was just 91. It might have been 10. 10. It might be 10. But for me, it was like a holy world.
Starting point is 02:05:18 Because I'm just like, Did you hear this? Even flow. Yeah, of course. Jeremy was on it. Can you do a Pearl Jam song now? Oh yeah. I just watched Cameron Crow's Pearl Jam 20 last week.
Starting point is 02:05:30 That's nice. That's nice comfort to food. So I'm going to play an album. I was heavily into pre-grunch. The whole album? I'm going to play one song for a minute. But we'll talk about it. You ready?
Starting point is 02:05:43 Yeah, let's do it. Fucking love this album. I'm back now. Molly Cruz I know. I know that Oh no yeah. It's Skid Row, baby.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Yeah, Sebastian Bach. There we go. So this is the first single from the debut album of Skid Row. 1989. Fucking telling you, all the singles on this fucking album are bangers, man.
Starting point is 02:07:04 This is a big one. Oh, okay. Yeah, no, no. So that's on the same album. Yeah, that's the second single album. So this is Youth Gone Wild. If you yell your own band name in your song. It's like Back Streets, Back, all right.
Starting point is 02:07:25 Well, big country's got a big song. Yeah, exactly. One of the only few, yeah. Black Sabbath did it. Yeah? Yeah. Their big song is called, isn't that Black Sabbath? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:35 It's true. So, little mind blow with Sebastian Bach. He's not a fucking Bach at all. What? I know. he's a beer Beirk B-I-E-R-K
Starting point is 02:07:45 He also, you gotta take him seriously He's on fucking Broadway now man That's right Remember that interview? Is that Kim Clark-Champness Actually? Maybe. Was it?
Starting point is 02:07:52 I think it was. He was in Rock of Ages. Yeah, but he was on, no, I think he was actually playing Jesus Christ Superstar at one point. He did, or Jekyll and Hyde
Starting point is 02:08:00 or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was Kim Clark Chapness he walked out on. I'm almost positive. Who came up earlier? Who came up earlier in the show? Because he managed
Starting point is 02:08:07 the fucking great serial Joe. That's so funny. From New Market? I don't want to say cereal Joe. You mark it, yeah. And mistake I've kicked out on a pandemic Friday for sure. Wild strawberries were on that same. U of T.
Starting point is 02:08:20 I went to U.S. strawberries were huge. They were on that same Humboldened Fred Christmas show. Oh, geez, wow. With the headstones and Cyril Joe and the Wild Strawberries. Yep. 1998, I think. Wow. Sebastian Birk's brother, Zach, played in the NHL, just like your nephew.
Starting point is 02:08:38 Oh, wow. Yeah, so NHL. Sebastian Bach's brother. That's cool. Sebastian Bach got in a great deal of trouble. I was thinking about him when Scott Adams died because everybody's like disgraced cartoonist passes away.
Starting point is 02:08:55 Yeah. Because he said some very blatantly racist things, like unbelievable things. But Bach got in trouble because he was photographed wearing a shirt. And I'm not... Trigger warning, I don't know who needs to hear it, but I'm going to read the shirt, okay?
Starting point is 02:09:08 Bach's shirt read. AIDS kills F-sler dead Oh I'm not going to say the F-sler But we don't which F-Ler it is So that's the shirt And he was wearing it
Starting point is 02:09:20 And You know what I feel like Axel wore Shirts like that too Yeah I think so too I feel Polis and N words They're all the same
Starting point is 02:09:29 That's on Appet for Destruction Yes that's right Yep So yeah you know And speaking of public enemy They got a lot of flack For anti-Semitic Antisemitic lyrics
Starting point is 02:09:38 Yeah on Welcome to the Terror Dome, which is on another amazing album, Fear of a Black Planet, where he basically says they kill Jesus. Lots to discuss here. This should be kicking out these problematic jams again here. And here's a quote,
Starting point is 02:09:58 and it didn't help Sebastian Bogg, but MTV was asking him about the photo, and he said, I understand it's not cool to make fun of death. I guess nobody gets my jokes. Anyway, a kid threw the shirt on stage. I put it on and all these people got mad at me
Starting point is 02:10:12 but let me just state this I do not know, condone comprehend or understand homosexuality in any way, shape, form or size. He doesn't condone it or understand it? He doesn't know condone, comprehend or understand homosexuality
Starting point is 02:10:30 in any way, shape, form, or size. Interesting. What year did he say that? Well, this was 1990 when he got photographed with the shirt, so it might have been shortly thereafter. I just hope his thoughts have evolved since then. If I could chat with him now, I would ask him if his thoughts on homosexuality have evolved since then. Okay, so that's the bad stuff.
Starting point is 02:10:54 But that song, so let me get back to some music here before we close out with Bob. But just a little, so this is the debut album. I'm picking the topic for next week, next month, right? So I'm picking a topic inspired by the follow. up album by Skid Row. That's how much I like Skid Row. At least those first two albums anyways. So this was the next big jam from this album.
Starting point is 02:11:19 Huge song. Oh, yeah. Scott a bit of a Jeannie's got a gun vibe. Totally. It's funny you mention that. Okay? Because you can hear a Bruce... Bruce Fairburn?
Starting point is 02:11:33 Fairbaird vibe. Totally. Because Bruce was doing those big Bon Jovi jam. And there's a big Bon Jovi ballad thing going on. The Bon Jovi cowboy songs are good. I don't mind them, you know, like whatever. I'm a cowboy. I don't mind those.
Starting point is 02:11:49 They're fine. But it's fun in the middle of the hockey game for everybody to sing. We're halfway there. Okay, so and then the big, this is the big ballad here. I think just to wrap up this Skid Row segment here, and we'll give it back to the birthday boy. But this was like your, I don't know, like your extreme. or Mr. Big
Starting point is 02:12:09 or even poison with every rose or something. That sounds like, yeah. We could do some metal, metal power ballads. Or like hard rock ballads. I got to listen to Angel on the way home by Arrowski.
Starting point is 02:12:26 Oh, yeah. I totally forgot. That whole album is so good. We'll sing the chorus together and then we'll pass the baton to Bob. Remember heaven by warrant? Same thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:47 Like cherry pie was a hard rocker. Yeah. Yeah. Heaven isn't too far. Oh, and the sweaty girl. Here's up. So Bob, I'm dedicating this ballad to you for your 50th birthday. Why are you looking at him?
Starting point is 02:13:19 He's better looking than you. That is true. That is true. That is not true. Rob is hanging up The newly you guys didn't comment But you did before You know what actually
Starting point is 02:13:27 Hanging out with Rob is like It's like the juxtaposition is not great You feel bad about yourself I think yeah I think your new shelves are beautiful Thank you and yes And you're I want to tell people My uh
Starting point is 02:13:38 It says happy holidays though Are you at you at war against Christmas? No We celebrate we celebrate all the holidays Because she's a Jewish right Yeah yeah yeah So we do Hanukkah We do Christmas
Starting point is 02:13:47 So can I tell you something? Yeah I didn't know you had a step son You didn't know You've never mentioned him Really? like if I was him I'm sure he doesn't listen
Starting point is 02:13:55 but um I uh Jackson right I saw I it comes to my house Laura grabs it and she's like Who's the guy I'm like I don't She's like does he have a son? I'm like yeah you don't talk about Jackson You never well no
Starting point is 02:14:07 You mentioned Leah yeah because she's lovely and wonderful and I'm sure he is too But I tell you what if I was him I'd be a little one No I'm kidding I literally had no I know really Yeah he actually and he's a good looking kid He's a good looking kid And he's a really good looking kid
Starting point is 02:14:21 And he's in university? No, he's in 12th grade. That's what they call it in America. We call it grade 12th grade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's submitting for colleges. So he's a senior in high school. He's a senior.
Starting point is 02:14:32 I don't get all those terminal. I still don't like it. Freshman, sophomore, junior, senior senior. I still don't get it. And then no grade 13. Yeah, no. You didn't watch 902 and O? No.
Starting point is 02:14:41 That's where you learned that stuff. Yeah, no. Yeah, that's a little. You were too old to be watching. He's a budding filmmaker and he actually just spent a week in Florida. He won an award. I saw, that's mentioned in the thing. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:14:51 the Young Arts Program and like 11,000 students submit art, like singers and dancers. And so he submitted a film that he made in his school. And he got chosen to go down to Florida for a week. Wow. Do master classes and shit. And like, it's unbelievable. Amazing. Yeah, it's super cool.
Starting point is 02:15:06 It's weird that it was at Mar-a-Lago, though. I know. It was weird. But Trump wasn't there. He was in Washington. No, yeah, I understand. It was okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:15:13 So I'm digging. I remember you. Okay, Bob, did you have, I'm confused. Do I play which one? Hang on. Jeremy Hopkins dated somebody who, uh, was related to Sebastian Bach. Stop the presses.
Starting point is 02:15:25 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, he's a Peterborough guy. Yeah, so he said, uh, I dated one of Sebastian Box's cousins. I think I told you this year before. Jeremy Hopkins, you're a fucking player. Jeremy Hopkins. He's got a Canadian connection, right?
Starting point is 02:15:39 Like, uh, he is Canadian. He is a Spanish, he was raised in Peterborough. Oh, yeah. That's why his brother played in the NFL hockey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't think, I don't think he was born in Canada, but he was raised. raised there, yeah. No, okay, so what I wanted to do, so you didn't start the one
Starting point is 02:15:55 the one you sent it lately. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you start that one. Trust me, it's just to be in the background. So, yeah. What's that heck? So, I did a little, just thinking about all the different genres of metal, right?
Starting point is 02:16:14 And, you know, the traditional heavy metal would be like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, thrash metal, they say is Slayer, Megadeth Metallica and Anthrax. They called, like, I don't know. Does Motorhead go in there? So where is motorhead?
Starting point is 02:16:28 Is not, let's see on this list that I found this article. The new wave of heavy metal coming out of English. Glam and hair, hair is like, Poison and Molly crew, Twisted Cinderella. Yes, oh, Cinderella. Then there's Death Metal, of course, which is like Cannibal Corpse.
Starting point is 02:16:45 There's actually, there's a, you know, I love a cannibal course. It's delicious. There's actually a really good station on Sirius XM for heavy stuff. Yeah. If you ever just want to put, you guarantee you get something heavy. What's it called? Oh, it's near Turbo and Metallica.
Starting point is 02:17:01 It's 40 something. Really? Yeah, I can let you know. It's right near LL Cool J's, his old school's hip-hop one. Yeah, it's all up there. Black metal, which is bands like Mayhem and Dark Throne. L.O. Cool J. name checked in Bring the Noise.
Starting point is 02:17:19 There you go. Music's for Eric B and LL as well. Hell. There you go. Rappas for anthrax still they can rock well. Okay. So there's doom metal. Anyways,
Starting point is 02:17:27 new metal obviously is corn, Slipknot, Lincoln Park, Limpiscuit. Progressive metal, which would be tool. Yeah. And Dream Theater.
Starting point is 02:17:34 Yes. Not a, no. Yeah, never got it, actually. No. Metal core, Parkway Drive,
Starting point is 02:17:40 Killswitch, Engage. These are bands that get played a lot in American. What about Phantom Lung? American Radio. I don't see Phantom Lung on my list here. Andy the Barbarism.
Starting point is 02:17:48 Oh, and then Groove Metal. Do you get Pantara, Lamb of God, Sepultera, all that. Anyway, ministry, Nine Inch Nails, Ramstein, Fear Factory. Are in which category of the end? That's industrial metal.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Industrial metal. Yeah. Yes. I love that. Now, so what we're listening to right here, turn it up right now. Yeah, it's really cool. Whatever it is.
Starting point is 02:18:05 This is a brand new song. Oh, what? It was released hours ago. What? I just happened to be looking up years ago. What's the summer arts thing that they do? L'Oreal. something or another. I can't remember.
Starting point is 02:18:21 Mariposa. No, no, no, no, no. It's in Toronto. It's an arts festival that happens all around the city. It's not... Newie Blanche. It's not Newie Blanche. Doors open, Toronto. No, just give me a fucking second. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 02:18:35 They did an event. They did an event at the power plant down on Cherry Street, Unwin and Leslie. The Hearn Power Station. Okay, it's still there. At one point this building was the biggest enclosure in North America.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Yes. And this band is called Sun O. Oh, I've heard S-U-U-N-N-O and then a bunch of parentheses. I've never heard them. I always seen the name. So this is drone rock, drone metal. Yeah, yeah. So they are so loud that actually what happens is, it's crazy.
Starting point is 02:19:16 they people call it they're playing for at such extreme volumes the show is more of a physical experience than a concert and I'm telling you I thought that building was going to come down
Starting point is 02:19:29 Jeremy Hopkins will know what I'm talking about They vibrate Like yes And it was in this old fucking building And it was I've never experienced And these guys all come out
Starting point is 02:19:38 dressed like Gregorian Like Seriously It's one of the trippiest things I wasn't high or anything It was I've always wondered about them It was the craziest thing I've ever.
Starting point is 02:19:47 So this is like the extreme end of, of, of, of, of metal. Now we can move on. I think this, this next one, my last metal track, it speaks to the power of much music or an MTV. 1988, 89. And justice for all by Metallica comes out. And this was my, I fell in love with Metallica because of this video. Me too. And they were, and until Pearl Jam came out, they were like my favorite band.
Starting point is 02:20:14 I, like, and this is. one, obviously, which starts off nice and soft. And there's a whole bunch of stories about Jason Neustadt. He's the new bassist. We can go into that. But this, so these two, black album and this, and use your illusion one and two are four of my favorite rock albums. That's so cool.
Starting point is 02:20:35 Yeah. I could go, I could talk about. What year did you say this one? This is 80. Well, it was released in 89. I think it's 88. I think it's 88. I think, yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:44 So the album was released in 88. I think this single was. 89. And user illusion was 89, I think, as well. No, no, usually illusion is 90. 91. Yeah. 92, right. So, I love this song. I still do. And I think it's because
Starting point is 02:20:57 again, a video A song that transcended out of the genre, I didn't know Master of Puppets or sanitarium, which by the way, I learned to love, and I have them on vinyl, and I've seen Metallica like five times.
Starting point is 02:21:15 this but yeah and there was the guy with the I didn't include that version with it like his vocals over with the
Starting point is 02:21:23 he's like it's his inner monologue in the video yeah oh wow yeah that video was epic yeah
Starting point is 02:21:30 big deal in my high school yeah 88 is the album can't tell this is true third and final single I'll feel the stream
Starting point is 02:21:50 this terrible that there's pain Still fucking great. Produced. It sounds so good. Produced by this guy Fleming Rasmussen. He's Danish. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:27 And he also did like every, he did ride the lightning, Master Puppets, and Justice. And yeah, I just think this, I mean, you would watch this and then lovers in a dangerous time would come on afterwards on much music.
Starting point is 02:22:44 You know what I mean? Like, you would just sit for hours and watch videos. In 90, I'm 14, I got a girl. I'm in their basement. And then Young MC would come on. Yeah, that's right. And you would, yeah.
Starting point is 02:22:54 And then Humpty Dance would come on. It takes two by Rob Bates. Anyways. Hey, easy rock. Oh, please God, wait me. I mean, we get top. Oh, yeah. Have you guys seen Metallica?
Starting point is 02:23:06 Do you ever see? No, neither. You've ever seen them live? In 92, I saw them. Oh, that's right. You went. Calgary. Yep.
Starting point is 02:23:11 Was that the tour with Faith No more and Guns and Roses? No. Oh, well, you know what? There might have been an opening act, but I did not see the opening act. Okay. Because I was driving, I drove to Calgary. I got them. In Calgary.
Starting point is 02:23:20 Summer of 92. Or like May 92. Yeah. Oh, I like, I want to see what that was. Yeah. I did watch a, uh, movie of their concert. Did you? Is that some kind of monster?
Starting point is 02:23:31 No. I can't remember. Oh, that's a good film. But, uh, so I have seen. Yes. You see live performance. Oh, is that the Saddle Dome? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:23:39 Oh, so this was a solo show. It wasn't part of that, because that was a big tour. That was the one where they really went nuts. You know what? I think I remember hearing that they had these. great, that Faith No More were opening for them. Faith No More was yeah. So, oh, this is the Where We More Rome Tour? And that's the pattern. Faith No More. Or is it pre-pattern. Was it 92?
Starting point is 02:23:54 I thought it was the Black Album Tour. It is. It is. Yeah. It is. Okay. Yeah. It began in late 91. Yeah. It was May 192. Yeah. So what's interesting is then the Guns and Roses' Metallica Stadium Tour starts. You got turned this part up when it gets going. Please. Thank you. Here we go. This blew my mind when I'm 14. I'm imagining Morgan and Jarvis are in bed trying to sleep and some got in the basement.
Starting point is 02:25:08 I'm sorry. No, it's okay. It's okay. But I'm just imagining and they're like, there's the man yelling down there in top of it, so they can't hear if it's in our headphones. No, that's right. They just hear the voice.
Starting point is 02:25:18 Metallic is one. Do you know, so I got it. I was listening to Life of Agony at home yesterday, two days ago. No, last week. It doesn't matter. It was noon, noon. Yeah. And I was singing along.
Starting point is 02:25:32 And it was on my sono speaker, not my fucking big sound system. But it's in my kids. I live in a semi-detached. My fucking neighbor had the audacity to ask me to turn the music down at noon. Oh, really? I'm pretty sure it was because it was me going, but still, that's why I paid the big bucks for the detached. I can't handle that shit.
Starting point is 02:25:53 Oh, dude. Did he call you a knock on your window? Really? Oh, yeah. No, it's a thing. It's a thing. This is amazing. We both play Metallica today.
Starting point is 02:26:06 Like my queen cover was Metallica. That's right, yes. Well, when you're kicking out the metal jams, you're going to get some Metallica in the mix. Okay, so I think we did all right. We had a fun, a wide range of different songs of metal, and we got Queen in there. Got Gary Newman in there.
Starting point is 02:26:21 Gary Newman's in there. We got, of course, some Skid Row is in there. Do you know what? At least Prue didn't do like, gold by Spando Ballet because it's a metal. Oh, that's true. Because gold is a metal.
Starting point is 02:26:33 Or somebody said Pink Floyd's metal. Yeah. And M-E-D-D-L-E. And also spoons are made of metal. Feist has an album called metal. Yeah. Good feist. That would have blown
Starting point is 02:26:43 if somebody brought a Feist fucking song. Right. Yeah. What's this on metal by Anvil? I was hoping somebody would... There's a crap work song called Metal and Metal as well. I almost used.
Starting point is 02:26:53 Yeah. Cover of Anvil on this thing here. Yeah, that's right. So are you going to announce the next time? I'm going to do it right now. You are? Happy birthday to Bob Willette. Happy birthday, Bob, coming up.
Starting point is 02:27:02 Hey, can I tell you something quick? Yeah. You should alternate intro. You made this intro. I know, extra. You should alternate if you want. Like, you know, the other one I did, you don't have to just, like, banish it.
Starting point is 02:27:12 Why don't you go back and forth and, like, spice it up? Well, see, I like this button being the outro, and it can only have one song at a time. You know, you can change. There's like a whole bank. You can have five banks on there. You know that, right? I do know that, right?
Starting point is 02:27:24 And even I'm staring at age. But you're still using. But I like that for the intro, that. And the other ones are still the stock sounds that came with it, aren't they? Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, I heard the audience. Okay, that's different. Primetime sports.
Starting point is 02:27:39 Yeah, all right. All right. That's a loss of little most. Okay. Is it hip? No, that's when I kick out the jams. It's got MC5 at the front. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:53 Yeah. Kick at the jam. Yeah, yeah. All right. This is not fun to listen to right now. Are you, you had one beer. You drunk? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:28:03 I want to find out what's on these things. No? Yeah, those two are they... I've heard you use it. Yeah, true. I use the applause. So, I'm going to announce the topic for the next toast. So I played...
Starting point is 02:28:19 I do have that, but it's in my soundboard. I kicked out Skid Row from the debut album. Well, the follow-up album, which I also enjoyed, felt harder to me. But I quite like that. It was called Slave to the Grind. Anyone here listen to Skid Row's slave to the grind. Negatory.
Starting point is 02:28:36 That was a follow-up. And there was a big single. What's a single? Big single on that called Monkey Business. Oh, that's a horrible song. I don't know it. Oh, it's so bad. And we're going to-
Starting point is 02:28:47 Can't wait. We're going to kick out monkey songs. We're going to kick out monkey songs. Oh, God. Monkey Songs is the topic for our next toast, which will be in February. Can I, oh, I mean, I already got that. You can't veto anything. No, no.
Starting point is 02:29:00 I mean, I wasn't going to veto. I was going to try to lay claim to a song out of the, off the top of my head. Don't even say it. Don't do it. I know. Send it in. I will.
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Starting point is 02:29:31 You do you require Lazzania? I'm okay. So do you require this? You know what? I will, only because I'm taking the the go train.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Oh yeah. Okay, that's a lot of lasagna. I'm driving you to the train, right? That would be lovely if you could. I mean, I could walk. It's only a 25 minute walk.
Starting point is 02:29:48 No. I walked here. Nick Aini's. You walked you from East York. That's amazing. Nick Aienes, thank you very much. Recycle my electronics. I live in Toronto.
Starting point is 02:29:57 I live in Toronto. Thank you. Not in East York. It's close. It is very close. And Redley, funeral home. Oh, is this a metal song? Subdivision?
Starting point is 02:30:04 Ish. You know what I'm working on? I might as well tell you. I'm trying to get the producer, Terry Brown. Oh, you should get Terry Brown. I'm working on it. His brother, Phil Brown, you should get as well. But then I might be able to get an answer. Can you get James Brown?
Starting point is 02:30:18 Rob Bowman was a great episode. He was amazing. James Brown on that one. And we heard funky drummer earlier. See you all. My next episode. Okay, it was going to be Bruce McCullough. It's now going to be a chap, a Toronto historian who's going to tell me mind-blow and fun facts about the Humber River, and then I'm going to check in with Brother Bill
Starting point is 02:30:35 live from White Rock, British Columbia. Checking in with Brother Bill. See you all then!

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