Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Monkey Jams #TOAST50: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1833

Episode Date: February 17, 2026

In this 1850th episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 4950th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette as they kick out monkey jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at [e-mail].

Toast. Just toast. I'm going to think about it, so. F-O-T-M's, do you know what time it is? It's... Toast time. Toast! Happy 50!

And Toronto Mike. And that's toast. Yeah. Just toast. Bob, you talked over the intro. We have to do it again. What are you talking about? Cut the mic.

I don't know what you're talking about. Stop the music. Stop the rock and roll. That's the case we'd have to stop every show. This is hot rod talking. This is my bit. Welcome to episode 1850. That's right.

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Joining me today for this milestone 50th episode of Toast. That's right, it's episode 1850 of Toronto Mike, but it's episode 50 of Toast. It's Bob Willett, who's also 50. And Rob Pruse. Who's not 50. He's not 50. Welcome, everybody.

Welcome, welcome. How are you doing gentlemen? Great. Good, thank you. Good. Yourself? I'm good. Thank you.

Look how formal we are. I know. You know what? It's almost spring leg out there today. It's warm out there. It is, uh, winter has wintered very well this year here in Toronto. And I'm, uh, I'm done with it. But I'm, we've had active weather.

It's, yeah, it's been winter. I've given winter the talk talking to. I'm like, you know what winter? You've done your job. Please. You've over achieved. take the rest of the year off until December 24th. I think winter is done.

Please don't show. It's not, but I want it to do. There's something coming tomorrow I heard. Yes, is what I hear. Yeah, I heard there's some shit coming tomorrow, like frozen rain or something. Shit going down. But we've had a good run the last week or so, I think.

I don't know. It feels like we've got above zero in everything. So here we are enjoying the balmy temps. I just want to shout out what you're wearing Bob Williams. Yes, yes. It's like a, what is it, Canada curling jacket? This is the official Olympic curling jacket for Team Canada. my cousin Rich gave it to me for my birthday.

It's a very generous gift. I was very surprised. Does he normally not gift you such a... Oh, no, no, no. He's always very generous. And I am far too poor to do that. Because he is rich. That's right.

Very nice. Yeah. So, yeah, it's really cool. And it happens to be in a year when everybody's talking about curling. So it's fun. Yeah. It's happening right now. I said because he's rich and I actually looked at Rob,

hoping to get like a smile or like chuckle. Like a nothing. Why? Nothing. I don't know. Is he rich? I said my cousin rich. Oh, because he is rich.

Oh, I get it. I went to Rob Proust. I got nothing. For validation. He gave me nothing. I got you nothing on that. I'll start paying attention now. And let's say this right now, Rob.

Let's just tease this right now. And then I have a very special announcement. Okay. But let's tease it. If you thought that was fucking hilarious, I wanted to drop an F bomb because there was a discussion, are there F bombs dropped on toast? You don't swear.

Fuck no. He swears. I feel. I feel like Rob doesn't swear. I swear more than me. I swear, actually, you swear more than me. Not during the show. You're a radio train.

I can turn it off, but I choose not to. Yeah. I can turn. Rob, do you swear? I actually don't think you drop F bombs. I don't really, but I do when I'm driving and when I'm, like, frustrated and whatever. We're learning a lot about it. And it's always the name of the Lord in vain and it's always, you know, that middle name is an F.

Okay, so we're going to bang off this quick. Yep. I think we've announced it, but now we're going to just remind people. And then I have a real big announcement to me. So Rob, what are you doing on May 21st, 2026? What day of the week is that? It's a Thursday? Is it?

Actually, I don't know. I don't know. You don't know? No, I don't know. But I'm going to Google. Okay. While you're Googling it, I'm planning to be in Toronto. What do you mean planning?

Like, what do you mean? I mean, depending. You'll be in Toronto. Given the circumstances, I will be on Spadina Avenue up near, is it near college? Just south of college. Yeah. I'll be at this little venue called the Elmocon. combo.

Set up on the stage. It's a Thursday. It's a Thursday. See, that's my thought. It's a Thursday. So I'm planning to be there with, as part of the festivities of the experience that you're about to announce. Okay. So, because I haven't really talked about it much, but I do want to just tell the toast listeners.

And we got to figure out to get Bob a roll in this. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I don't know about that. We have words early days. He was an announcer. He can introduce you. Ladies and gentlemen. He's the Ed McMahon.

Yeah. Yes. And you're the, uh, hello. You're the Paul Schaefer, right? And what does that make me? David Letterman? Yep. I'll take that.

Okay. Whoa. Okay. So what we're telling the listenership before I get to the big announcement is that you can buy a ticket to see the Toronto Mike's social experience, which is, what did I call it?

Toronto's Mike's social experience? Listener experience? Experiment, social experiment. Yeah. Did I see it? I saw an image for it somewhere. Yeah, there's an image out there. It's on, so here's the basically,

here's a call to action. Go to Toronto, Mike.com because at the very top I put a link that says Elmo gig and that'll bring you to where you can buy tickets. Eventbrite has a page where you can buy tickets. So it's a ticketed event and they're not free tickets. I'm just going to make sure you know that now. And it's going to happen on May 21st at the Elma combo and Rob Proust will be on keyboards during this Toronto Mike's social experiment performance. Will you be wearing some sort of like purple shaded sunglasses like

like Paul Taper does. Here's my question. So I'm going to craft something that's going to be entertaining and enlightening. And there will be musical cues along the way. And then Rob Proust, the prodigy himself,

he was in spoons and honeymoon sweet. He's going to be performing music live at the Elmo that ties in with the cues that I'm going to bake into this production. I can't believe this is fucking happening. But this is happening. So you're, Rob, you did thread and to bring some musical friends.

Is that something you're still thinking about? I'm totally still thinking about it. I'm not thinking too much about it. May 21. I work better under pressure. So when it gets a little... Yeah, it's going to say it's still two months away, right? But definitely I could call on some colleagues and some friends and bring them along for sure.

Oh, wow. I'm just crossing my fingers for a sandy horn. That's what I'm going to say right there. Yeah, maybe some FOTM, some fellow FOTMs can show up and whatever. I don't know. Okay, this is huge. But here's what I'm going to do now. Big announcement.

And then we're going to catch up a Bob because I read something interesting about Bob. and I think there might be an announcement there. And then Rob, we're going to catch up with you. And then we're going to get to the monkey jams. I have a few musical things to share along the way. Big announcement. Are you ready? Ready. Do you.

You guys listening? Do it. Okay, here we go. As we celebrate the 50th episode of Toast, a milestone celebrated from sea to sea, it is my esteemed privilege and honor to make this exciting announcement. The FOTM Hall of Fame will be welcoming two new inductees, and quite frankly, this is long overdue.

First up, he was the producer of the Humble and Fred Show and has currently heard on Indy 88, but most importantly, he's become a fixture of the monthly toast episodes of Toronto Mike. And the second honorary, he was a piano prodigy who became the Spoon's keyboard at the young age of 15. He'd go on to play with Honeymoon Sweet and work on Broadway, but he too has become a fixture of the monthly toast episodes of Toronto Mike. You'll see them on stage with Toronto Mike on May 21st, so get your tickets now. Wow. Please welcome to the FOTM Hall of Fame Bob Wollett and Rob Pruce. What?

Wow. A reaction from each of you, one at a time. I had a dream the other day, I swear to God, that you were canceling toast. And I did. I was like, oh, I'm also canceling toast. Yeah, I was a dream. I woke out and I was like, oh, well, maybe it's run its course. 50 and done.

Yeah, I did. This is lovely. This is, what a kind gesture of you. And to be included in such, such hollow. Hall. Such a hollowed hall is really an honor. It's an esteemed list of people. This is an auspicious day to receive this accolade as well. I mean, it's the lunar New Year.

It is. It's true. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the Chinese New Year. It's Chinese New Year today. Yeah. Don't wash your hair today. Yeah. That's every day. Wait, there's accolades coming in on the live stream. I'm going to read a couple of them. I'll read two of these many accolades that have come in. Okay. So Andy says, well deserved. She put like a little heart. She says, congrats, lads. Leslie says,

congrats, well deserved. She's doing an applause. Dan Jay is on the live stream, says, congrats, guys. I mean,

they're just pouring in now, Mike. My goodness. Mike, aka Tobias Vaughn, he says, congrats. Okay,

so I don't think you'll be able to do this, but do either of you want to take a crack and naming the other inductees into the FOTM Hall of Fame? Like, who are you joining? Do you want to take a stab at it?

Oh, I know a couple. I'm horrible with names. Do you, what do you got there, Rob? I got bail him out, Rob. Come on.

I'm going to say Cam Gordon. That's one. Yes. I'm going to say stew stone. That's two. Is Moose grumpy in there? No. No.

Wow. We're Miss. Moose, one day. One day. I don't know. I just thought, I feel like somebody. What he's saying there is a normie is in there. Steve Paken?

No, there is. There is a normie in there, right? Yeah. I know there is. There is a normie in there. Yes. VP of sales, Tyler Campbell? That's three.

You're at three. Okay. Not Blair. Packham, not yet. No. If Blair Packham got him before me, I would have been upset. That would be weird.

I like Blair, good guy, but still. He's an East Yorker. Yeah, yeah. Um, jeez, I don't know. How many, how many members are there? Well, you're missing at least three. Okay. I got three so far.

So we've got Stu can't, so you got Cam and Tyler. Yes. Oh, um, you should know more than you. Don't cheat on the live stream. Would you want to help you? The first inductee was retro Ontario.

Oh. Oh, Ed Conroy of course. And then the second, I believe, was Mark Weissblot from 1236. Wise Mark, yes. And you're still missing Peter Gross himself. Peter Gross, the voice of the induction. Right. Maybe when you get around to a new intro for Toast.

Who knows is again? And the Normie, as I affectionately referred to her as, is Levee Fumcombe. That's it. I knew it was a nickname. So there are others who are on the cusp and who knows what will happen. and later in 2026. But for the 50th toast, episode 1850, long overdue, Bob Willett and Rob Pris.

Thank you very much. When are stars going to be put out on the sidewalk out here in front of your, by the tree. You've never won a, you've never won a Juno, right, Rob? I have. You've won a Juno. Yeah.

Do you own a Juno trophy? I do. Okay. I posted a picture of it. Yeah, yeah. So here's this has happened. So I had a woman over here named Amoy. Yeah.

And she's up for her eighth Juno. Yeah. She's a reggae artist. Wow. Lovely lady, very talented. He's 0 for 7. I called her the Susan Louche. But we had a little discussion.

I told her, you know, when you win a Juno, you're going to have to pay for that trophy. And she says, no, no way, Jose. And I said, yeah, like, I've been told this. And then it just so happens. Simone Denny was on the show two days later. She's won Juno. So I asked her on the record, you know,

did you have to pay for you? And she says, yeah, like, she had to pay, I think she said, between $300 and $500 for the trophy, okay? So, Rob, did you pay for your Juno Award? I absolutely did not. No, your label probably did. Yeah, because I wanted the Golden Day. of Honeymoon Sweet in the Glory Days.

And so I believe the record company... Somebody paid for it. Yes, the record company... We probably paid for it out of our royalty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what Simone said. You paid for it some way. That's right.

You paid for it the other way, which is they build it back to you there. But I do have one. And actually, when I got mine, it's, I felt really guilty because I'd been in the band only for like two months at that point. Right.

I was like, holy shit. Like, I joined the band in September of 1986 and the Juno's were like the end of that October. So we played on the show. And then we won group of the year. I was up with them. And then the record company gave me one as well because I was in the band. Johnny kept bugging me,

but he's like, you know, you didn't even learn. Breaking news. And I'm glad I'm wearing my Canada jersey. I'm glad Bob's wearing his Canada jacket. I got roots. And Rob has a roots.

That's close enough. That's a good Canadian company. All right. So we have just won another gold. Wow. That's one gold. And that's our third gold. And a couple of more accolades before we get to the jams.

We have VP of Sales, also known as Tyler Campbell, who's in the Hall of Fame. He says this is very well. deserved for you talented, dedicated Hall of Famers. Thank you, Tyne. And Canada Cove, I don't remember if I read this, but he says, a two-fer, he says very well, right on and well-deserved.

Thank you. Thank you very much. So there you go. We got a gold. Things are cooking here. So in honor of the gold, I'm going to play this. You probably have heard this. So I played that for Dave Bedini last week.

And why am I bringing up that CBC Olympics theme? Because this is from Hakuna Matata in the Lion King. That's right. when he was a young ward hog when I was a young word So henceforth when you hear the CBC Olympics theme You will say I was a young wardhog Nathan Lane and Ernie Sabella

I saw them on a funny thing Happened on the way to the forum Oh I think I saw that too Oh my god they're amazing They're so good That is a good it's a good get Like it's a good spot mic For the picking that melody theme

Like the similar similarity Well Maureen Holloway tip me off Like I didn't even really Connect these dots Maureen Holloways did. And then I cut it out because she was going on Humble and Fred, and I wanted Humble to play those two little bits. I love recognizing when little melodies are connected.

The Olympics theme is O Canada, isn't it? That's the John Williams version. Yes, that is the John Williams version. Actually, I like the David Foster 1988 Winter Olympics theme. Yes, I've been using that all week on the radio. Speaking of the radio. Yes, sir. So there's a rumor, Bob, that you're on Indy 88.

more often than you would have been when you were last on toast. Yeah. That's an awkward way of phrasing it. Yeah. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah, you know what? So I,

we had a little blip in the radar last fall where the owner had a little bit of a, he admittedly a little overreaction and thought he had to make a cut. Yeah. And I was it. But I stuck around and worked part time for him for the fall book and had the number one show in Toronto

at all 1849 on the weekends, which was nice. and so that anyways long story short yeah i've locked in we're coming into what's called r2 ratings period so i will be i am officially like i'm going to be on the air i do uh sunday afternoons from 11 a.m to 4 p.m and then monday through thursday i am the evening announcer from 6 p.m. so this is what you were before he made this yeah yeah but i also do all i also do all the fill in for people when they're away so when adam ricard f o'tm adam racard um when lana gay.

No, an FOTM, Lending. Won't come on the show. It won't come on my podcast either. When either of them are going away, I fill in for them, but we're coming up to ratings,

quote unquote. So we will, I will not be filling in. So this is what I'm, for the next like three months, that's definitely what I'm doing. That's exciting news. Yeah.

And I got some, more Bob on the radio. And I'm going to be doing a little something on Saturday nights. This is a little inside information for, for, for, just for the FOTM universe.

Just the toast listenership. just the toast. Just the toast. Listenership. Don't tell anyone, everybody. So we do this thing called the electric ballroom, where it's like, they kind of like crank it up a little bit with the beats and whatnot. Simone Denny gets a appearance. There you go. But I am going to be remixing it.

What are you listening to? Sorry. Torturing me. This is almost a torture. I'm going to be doing the mixing and I'm going to be hosting it. Wait, you're doing the mixing. Yeah, I'm going to DJ it. Cool.

And I get, here's the thing. He's a DJ climax over here. The only reason I said, well, one of the, I said yes to do it, because who gets to, I get to choose whatever I want. Wow. I mean, within reason, obviously. This is exciting. I'm going to be, like, so it's,

and it's going to be very reminiscent of people who used to love a certain show that I used to produce with Martin Streak. Wow. It's going to be very reminiscent of that, not the heavy stuff. You're not going to get the, like, the prodigies, but you're going to get Chemical Brothers and Fat Boy Slim and a lot of new stuff too. Yeah. Okay, that's exciting news.

So that starts in, uh, that starts in March. Ever since you turn 50, like, Life has been good. There you go. It's very good. What cover is this? It's not a cover. It's a hundred percent of cover, but it's share.

It's my favorite version. Just a little bit. I love this. I love this. I love this. We never did talk to him. We said he could. We never did.

Oh, he's unwell. Oh, Mark Cohen? I didn't report back. Oh. He's unwellened. Oh, I'm starting here. And I forget, I don't want to mistake the disease he has, but he has a disease. Somebody Google it and tell me what he had.

Somebody was going to hook us up with him. Yeah. Fred Mullen. That's it. It was all going down, and then my guest was not well enough to do it. So a little tip for you people. Maybe we can get Cher on, talk about it. Do you have any connections for Cher?

Sort of indirectly, yeah. How? Judy Kramer, who's the producer of Mamma Mia. And Cher was in the Mamma Mia film. Could you get Cher on an episode of Tom? Probably not. Can you imagine? Ridiculous.

We had DJ lethal once, you know. We could get lethal. It's unrelated, but do you have, have you had Master T? Yeah, 100%. I had him the day after. I think I never forget his comment. I had him, who was the co-host of Marilyn Dennis

who moved to afternoons on Chum? What? I know. There's a beef. Marilyn Dennis is a TV show? No. Marilyn Dennis has a radio show Bob on Chum. Yeah, Roger Rick and Marilyn.

Yeah. Darren? She had a co-host. Yeah, Darren, Roger Darren and Marilyn? No, this gentleman came from America, and he co-hosts, he took over for Ashby. Oh. Oh, Jamar.

Jamar. Jamar, also an FOTM, right? Yeah, he said, so... You clearly have a good friend of yours. He's been on twice, actually. Yeah. He's on with Josie Dye now. Josie Dye now, yes.

I got to tell you later about emails I'm getting about the current morning show host with Marilyn Dennis. Oh, tell you later. David Corey? Okay. Tell you later. All right.

That's some stuff for you. Some spicy meatballs for you. Oh, nice. Okay, so... Chamar, he was great. He was on twice. He was booked. And then I was chatting with...

Tony, Master T. And he said to me, I'm quoting him, okay, but he said this line and everybody goes, Mike, are you allowed to have two brothers on in a row? Who said that to me? Sure he did. This is a pretty white show. Let's be honest. Simone Denny and Amoy are two guests last week who are women of color.

You know what you sound like right now? Some of my best friends are gay. That's what you sound like right now. I love gay people. That's what you sound like right now. I do love gay people. I went on the public record. I want, in the next season of heated rivalry, I want to see more penis. I heard that. That's a desire I have.

You talked about that. Is there no full frontal or is there full frontal? There's no full frontal. No full frontal. A lot of ass. A lot of ass. A lot of ass. A lot of ass. A lot of abs. A lot of abs. A lot of pecks. Like, like, I don't know. I won't say this next sentence. I'm going to self-censor myself. I just want to play. Let me move on. Just say that Tony Young has been. Yeah.

Crack open at Great Lakes beer right now. I got to finish a coffee. Then I got mine here. What are you crack in there? A knapsacker? That's a logger. Yeah, I love a logger. It's a German. You know me. I love my loggers. Troy Birch, who you were parked behind?

I was parked behind today, yes. He brought those last week. Oh, okay. For his podcast, which is called Between Two Fermenters. Thank you, Great Lakes. Okay, so the cold one, so you don't want the super light logger. I'll take the super light. Well, you don't have to, but that's out of the fridge.

And this one here is an IPA that's actually a guest of between two fermenters. What's it called? Strong beer. It's called Double Rememort's. It's called Strong beer. What's the brewery name? Third Moon Third Moon.

The guys from Third Moon were awesome, like awesome guests. They sat here. That's a strong beer. So is that too strong for you? From right now, I'll say yeah. So do the light logger,

eight or something, right? Oh, yeah. This is like a Don, dude, the Quebec ones that has like Vikings on it. Bring it home with you then. I would bring it.

I had a super light and I didn't think I was going to enjoy it but I really enjoyed it because it's light but it's nice. So if you want, you know, all that, you didn't do it on the mic.

What is this? Your Amateur? I'm taking back your Hall of Fame. membership. This is... This is... So thank you, Great Lakes.

Thank you to Palma Pasta. Palma Pasta.com. Thank you to Ridley Funeral Home. Pillars. Is it Pillars of the community or a pillar

of the community? Pillar of the community. Didn't you write it? Shouldn't you know? I wrote it as pillars, but I had this epiphany that I have it wrong. Like, I'm going to read

that intro again. And then you're going to tell me what's better. I say this. Singular. And Ridley Funeral Home, pillars. of the community since 1921.

But then I had an epiphany. I have it wrong. It should be Ridley Funeral Home, pillar of the community since 1921. What say you, Bob Willett, Radio Veteran? I would definitely agree with your latter version. Get rid of the yes.

They are a pillar of the community. Riddley's funeral home. But the fact that you're saying in the past might be forgiven. So we need a ruling from an expert. We need a grammar Nazi. Get Brad on the phone. Maybe Brad can rule.

A grammar specialist can report. poor back. I feel like Andy is our resident of the community. So I'll check in on the live community. But pillars of the community since 19-21. In the past. So I think you might be okay because of that. Yeah. Okay. Thank goodness here. This is real talk here.

And real talk. You want a real talk. So Nick Aini's You know, you can hire me to produce your podcast. Like this is what I do at TMDS. And Nick I mean, to produce a new podcast called Mike versus Nick left versus right. No. Because we'd have these half hour conversations unrecorded before we'd record Building Toronto Skyline.

And he said, let's record those and drop those every couple of weeks. Really? So believe it or not, there are already a few episodes in the feed. We've been doing this for a few weeks. I just haven't actually talked about it yet. I think I'm doing one on Friday morning. Nick Iini's, yeah, Mike versus he wrote this, I think Chad Cheap T. I'll show you ought to listen to.

Yeah, that's Building Toronto Skyline. But this new podcast, left versus right, Mike versus Nick, is now available wherever you find your podcast. Like point, counterpoint. Is it political? Yeah, it's very political. So we recorded an episode right after Kearney's speech in Davos, for example, Switzerland.

And by the way, I watched Canada versus Switzerland yesterday. What a nail biter for the women. Yeah, this is not a good team, right? No, it's not going to end well on. Thursday's not going to be great. No.

And we lost five nothing in the, what's that called? The Round Robin. No, yeah, the Round Robin. You're right. And not a good, I don't think it's a good team. Like, it's definitely the second. team in the world. It's a down year for them for sure.

I was shocked at how much, I mean, nail-biting moments I had to do. Are you doing hockey talk with Nick on left versus right as well? No, he doesn't really do hockey talk. I see. It's not really hockey talk. It's not really hockey talk. It's a lot of talk about, yeah, it's very political. Are you guys talking Canadian politics?

Yeah. No, a lot of Canadian politics. Does he have an opinion on the Alberta situation? Yeah. Well, you know, so Friday morning, I actually, Alberta's on the agenda. We've touched on it. But yeah, so these are the kind of things. Like, what's in the Zike guys to discuss.

Yeah. The Alberta thing, I think the number of Alberta, and I speak, I'm married to an Albertan, but that doesn't give me much more credence than you guys. But I like to pretend it does. But I would say if you could do a proper poll of all Albertans about do you want to separate from Canada, my feeling is that it's not a very high number.

Yeah. What would you feel the number might be? Six. I think it might be higher than that. I don't know. I have no idea. I just, I don't know. I have no number.

I think we are talking, I feel like maybe we're talking about like 12 to 15%. Here's what here, but even besides. the numbers. What I'm concerned about when I'm down in the States. The timing. Not just the timing of it all. The methods of what is happening where

a year ago we were all elbows up and it was all that stuff. I'm still elbows up. I know but it was a year. Pushing the fucking face right now, you damn Yankee? A whole year has gone by since that whole stuff started, right? And Charlie Angus and all the things. And we were like oh my God, Canada's finding its soft, its independence and its strength within

itself again. And then a year goes by and then this Alberta bullshit starts coming up. And it feels like it's it's timed and coordinated in a similar way to what the Americans are doing within their own country. So I feel like the Canadian stuff is being egged on by some American assholes. And I feel like... Oh, there's some dog whistles there for sure. Absolutely.

So it feels like now Canada within itself is getting divided, but more just in their... It's a vocal minority. It's a vocal minority. It's a... I think it's very much posturing. It's that extreme right, those... They have a very active... The convoy crew.

The convoy guys. But also I think it's amplified on social media. I feel like you go to X, the bullshit on X. Well, don't do that. X is almost impossible to go to that. Yeah. Like I go on it every now. Like Twitter, I go on it and I'm just like, why am I even here?

But they're all, they're all amongst themselves. You're missing my wonderful tweets that you've been enjoying since 2009. But I hope you guys talk about it because I'm sort of curious about the rest of the country. Like how we do, we do. So Nick, there you go. That's out there now. This is actually Rob Pruse. This is Rob playing, right?

Yes. When did you do this last week? It just played out. What's the, are you? Oh, that's the sound of my keys. Oh, that's the keys hitting. Yeah. Oh, sailing.

Yeah. You'll be a great Paul Schaefer. I would buy a ticket to the Elma combo on May 21st to see Rob Pruse. I'll play whatever you want. Can we? I'm excited. I know you want to move. I know you want to move on, but I was thinking about you,

queuing Rob to do this. I wanted to say, whoever put together the bad bunny halftime show, the cues on that, they, I mean, you've, you've worked with stage, right,

the, it was absolutely amazing. Precision, right? Precision. All those little interstitial, those little scenes that he did. It's like watching a movie. It was,

and to do it in 15 or 17 minutes live with that kind of precision. I think it was one of the most impressive shows I've seen for a, for a, a Super Bowl half-time show. Because just those cues alone and having the cameras ready to go in the perf in there. Oh, my. I was like, I have no idea what he's saying, but this is amazing. But somebody made a good point, and I thought, why didn't they put subtitles up as an option?

Like, I mean, it's interesting, but I didn't really care. It sounded cool. You know it's a good production when you're entertained. You didn't know what fucking. That's right. It was so good. Visually, and I mean, I bet you in the stadium it sucked. Yeah.

Because it was definitely for TV. It was for TV. It was for TV for sure. Anyway, sorry, we didn't talk about it. Just a little quick, before we get to the. The monkey jams. This is not a monkey jam. Yeah, I feel like Bob Willett is a huge Carpenter's massive.

This is like she's just like a tear-y-eyed listening to her. That's the goal here. Let me see some fucking tears. Oh, just like so good. And an amazing drummer too. Oh, my God. What brings up Karen Carpenter? Well, we're getting in there, Rob.

You're so impatient. Rob's like, we're dilly-dallying. Let's go through. It's never a bad time to hear Karen Carverick. Which movie? Baby, baby. Which? Is it a Sandler movie? Or like 50 first dates or something?

Yeah, I don't know. See, this part makes me think of girl talk. It comes in as do-d-d-d-d-d-d-do. So we know, I don't know if we know. I'm going to just bring this up because I think people forget and then they remember again. We do know this is a cover, right? Do we know this is a cover, or we forget we knew, and maybe we knew and we forgot. Yeah, maybe we won't know.

So we knew and we forgot we knew, but now I'm here to remind you that this is a cover. So I just thought a very, very brief history of that song that Bob loves so much. So is it a Leon Russell song? It's not a Leon Russell song. But why are we talking about it is the question. Just a little, like, thing that crossed my mind during the previous month. I have a Karen Carpenter story. Okay, tell your Karen Carpenter story.

going to play the original. Okay, it's indirectly. One of our drummers at Mamma Mia, one of our sub-drumers, she met Karen Carpenter when she was seven years old. Wow. She went to her, her parents took her to a concert in Westchester, New York, in the early 70s, mid-70s, I guess, yeah. And she was a, like, was starting drums.

And her dad, like, brought flowers and said, let's go. And they just, like, found their way backstage. And she met Karen and talked to her. Back when you could do those things, right? You hear those stories. So cool. Or they, I mean, I've done the weight by the stage door, like, once in my life. Now it's to meet El Pacino.

But the idea, you hear these stories of people, it was like a couple weeks ago when the Raptors were in Portland. And they won, and there was a bunch of Toronto fans in Portland, and they end up in the kind of common area with the Raptors, and they're partying with the Raptors after the game. It would never happen in Toronto, but because they're the away team. It was one of these moments where it was like, that was so cool. That's so far and few between those.

People will now pay to meet people, right? You know, the meet and greets and stuff. I hate it. I know. I'm very lucky because I've gotten to meet people on my own.

Oh, it is a Leon Russell song. That's what I thought. All right. So I'm sorry, yeah. So Bonnie Bramlett and Leon Russell

wrote this song in 1969, okay? So I'm just going to quickly play the first recorded version. Yeah. Is it from Delaney and Bonnie? Different.

Same key. Yeah. The voice was very similar who came off that first note. It's got a little more of a groove to it. Yeah. Yeah.

So it is Delaney and Bonnie. How'd you know that? You're smart guy. Well, because Bonnie Bramwell is from Delaney and Bonnie. Did you know Rita Coolidge came up with the idea? For the song? Yeah. No.

Like she would observe that the groupies with the rock stars. You know what that's like, right, Robbie? Yeah. You had a lot of groupies, right? Yeah. I mean, no, not groupies, but a lot of fans. Well, groupies are different. They're kind of a subset of it.

I didn't have groupies, but we had a lot of fans. I had a girl fainted in front of me once. Oh, wow. It was the weirdest thing ever. And then you married her. No. We were playing at high school and we were walking up from the stage from the dressing room and just here was girls waiting around. It was so weird.

So this is the first recorded version. Wow, it's cool. And then there's a version that sort of, I want to play just a couple of quick more versions real quick here. So this is the version that comes before the Carpenters that kind of brings it to the attention, I'd say. Like how the Carpenters. It was Richard Carpenter who heard this version performed on The Tonight Show of Johnny Carson. Is that Melanie?

No. Melanie's dead now. Did you know that? Yes. Breathy. It's coming, and then you're going to name that artist, and you're going to nail it once we get to the louder part. It's Bett Miller.

Wow. I can heard it right there. Is that what you got? This is the radio? There's a little. She's amazing. Wow. Yeah.

So Richard Carpenter hears this on Bet Midler singing this in 1971 on The Tonight Show. And just before I tap out of Superstar and get to some monkey jams. It's Luther again? That's why I mentioned her and now by Luther Vennel. That's right. I saw him do that on Arsenio Hall. I mean, not live, but I remember watching him on Arsenio Hall. And it's interesting we talked about Cher earlier because Cher was given out the record of the year at the Grand

Grammys. Right. And read it, because the song's called Luther by K-DOT and Siza. And said Luther had won. So Luther was kind of in, so Cher put Luther in.

And that song samples Luther Vandross, of course. I played it. I kicked it out. No. It was the Valentine's Day, K-O-T-J-F, the F-O-T. Is that what it was? Oh, yes. I'm trying to remember what episode was.

So I just dropped. Neither of you two participated. No, it was a great episode, though. But why are you? you in the Hall of Fame if you don't participate in these. You know, I had an email all ready to go with my song, and then I was going to record my voice, and I didn't record it, and then I dropped it all. I thought people hear enough of me talking about music on this show.

It was a great episode, though. I listened while I was driving. Only one Hall of Famer participated, and that was FOTM. That was the VPSL, as he participated. But this song was kicked out by Reschmi Nair. Yeah. So Reschmi kicked out, not this song, the K-Dut-Luther's song with Siza was kicked out as her favorite love song.

And I thought it was, so it was fresh in my mom. Okay, so some Luther. And only because I love this band, I just want to just bring this one out and then we're going to move on, I promise. I have to get this out of my system. My favorite cover of Superstar is still this one. I know that might be sacrilegious, but...

And I know Bob will know it, so I'm going to ask Rob Proust, if he can name this artist. This is on the If I were a Carpenter album. That much I know. That much I know. I'm going to see if I remember. Because I loved this album.

We mentioned this band a lot on toast. Really? Oh, it's going to be pro jam. It's always Bob and I. It's not pro jam. Okay. I can't remember what it. It should be a giveaway, right?

You should, yeah. I'm trying to think what could I do to give you a hint. Oh, Camio by FOTM Chuck D. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, cool things. What a waste of the great Chuck D, though. Come on, give him a verse. By the way, I want, oh, so this is, yeah, it's Sonic Q's.

It's Sonic U.S. I would have never guessed. But I wanted to say, did you see, speaking of X or Twitter, did you see Chuck D giving props to Maestro for getting a stamp. And I was like, hey, there's two FOTMs. That's really cool. I thought that was pretty cool. I even blogged about that.

And somebody posted that on Blue Sky, like the screen cap. Okay, yeah. Because I'm all over Blue Sky as if it was Twitter five years ago, so I don't go on Twitter anymore. Is anybody on Blue Sky? Well, I don't, I, like, I engage. Is anybody on threads? I'm on threads.

I can tell you, Ron, sex. I'm not on threads, but my Instagram goes there. Yeah. I just don't engage. I like threads a lot. Actually, there's some really interesting threads. Okay. Yeah. That's not funny.

And now I feel like we're all going to stand up for our favorite social media. I will tell you, like, I just witnessed this morning a wonderful engagement between Ron Sexsmith, FOT and Ron Sexsmith and the aforementioned V-P sales because he kicked out a Ron Sex-Smith song. Oh, yes. It was great. But I follow a lot of, like, I will like Sean McCullough from people like that that I'm heavily engaged with. And anyway, I'm there, but I'm not on threads. You're on threads. Bob, where are you still X?

I'm not. I'm not. I'm on X. I don't really do anything on. it. I technically, I started a Blue Sky. I haven't done anything with it. I don't have a threads. I haven't started a threads yet. I don't know. I mean, I also have to do

stuff for the radio station, right? Yeah, like, so I think you got to like, just find a place you enjoy and go there. Yeah. Care to come there, fine. I miss the news -ish feel that Twitter had. Yeah, I get that on threads, actually. Do you get it on threads? I do. I do miss that because right now all I, you know, Facebook. I get that on Blue Sky. And you get on Blue Skyes and you get it on Blue Skyes.

And you get it on Blue Skyes. Right now, like, between Facebook, Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram. You know, with the radio station, we're using primarily Instagram the most. I'm using Facebook more because that's where my people are. Sure, that's right. Our people are there. And so we'll see. I don't know.

But I missed the news part of it for sure. Do you remember last episode of Toast? I kicked out some Skid Row. We were doing metal jams. Yes. And then I was thinking about Skid Row I liked. and one big heavy song from the next album was called Monkey Business.

Yeah. That's what made you think of monkey jam. Yeah. That made me think of monkey jam. So I'm just here to introduce the topic to the listenership. We're going to kick out of... And I'm here to remind you of the monkey jams that I... Wow. Keep going.

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Yeah, what? Tell us, you're done with Mamma Mia? Yes, we finished on February the 1st. Sunday, February the first was our last day. Congratulations. Thank you. The show closed. We had a good six-month run of it.

And I'm happy to be done. Like, it was a really fun return to the show. But, I mean, I had closed the show originally, like, over 10 years ago. How many times have you closed the show now? Well, a bunch of times, you know, like with different incarnations of it, leaving different productions and stuff. So this six-month run, the tour is going on. Like, they're now in rehearsals to go back out on the road again. Yeah.

And there's rumors that, like, in another couple years, it might come back to Broadway again. Sure. You know, whatever. But it was fun. It was nice to go back and visit it again. But, um... It's a bit of a strange time right now for musicals, I think. I know Broadway's not doing the best.

It's due okay because the prices are so high. Yeah. That's a problem. Right. And Mervish just announced their next season. Anything good? No, look, here's my, here's my, I love Mervish. They do a great job.

I think, now I'm really getting, getting nerdy here, but there, I understand why back to the future became a musical. I understand why dirty dancing, footloose, became a musical. Why did the karate kid become a musical? I just, it's not necessary. I know. It doesn't make any sense, unless there's a song called Daniel Sun, wax on, wax off. Yeah.

Joe Esposito. Yeah? Did he write music for the film? Don't you remember? We did this on a previous toast or maybe it was a pandemic Friday. He wrote the song for Rocky 3 and they went with Survivor. I get it. That's right.

And I'm just saying it's great song. And that's the big song. But I did not know there was a quite a kid musical. No, but that's one of the ones coming. Look, I'm sure it's great and I won Tony's, but this shucked one that's out. I hear it's great. But it's just, I have no interest in it. It's a corn.

It's about corn? Yes, there's currently a musical. Is it coming to Toronto? It's here now. Oh, geez. But the fact that the karate kid musical, I'm like, why not weekend at Bernice? Yeah.

Why not? Like, they'll be coming. It'll be coming. Let's do Porky's the musical. Like, Jesus, it doesn't make any sense. Yeah. There's an idea for the Elmo show. Porky's the musical.

Would you be down, Rob? I'll do whatever you want. It was right. Yeah, we got to put the book. Anything. Anyway, sorry. Yeah, let's get to our monkey business. Okay, we're going to get the monkey.

Sorry, sorry. Sorry, sorry. I'm like, Skid Row is taking us home. But I know the perfect intro. So I'm going to roll right out of this intro into your first jam, so you don't get to say any words before you jam. Got nothing.

Skid Row into the intro into your first monkey jam. Love it. Here we go. Help the humans about to escape. Get your paws off me, you dirty. He can talk. He can talk. He can talk.

He can talk. He can talk. He can talk. I can sing. Here's your musical, boys. Exactly. Oh, healthy, Dr. Seus. Dr. Seus, Dr. Seas, Dr. Seas.

Dr. Seas, Dr. Seas Dr. Seas. Oh, Dr. Seas. Dr. Zias, Dr. Zas. What's wrong with me? I think you're all crazy. One of a second opinion. You're all so lazy.

Dr. Zias, Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Dr. Zias. Can I play the piano anymore? Of course you can. Well, I couldn't before.

I use that all the time. This play has everything. Oh, I love legitimate theater. Shocking choice. Shocking, right? My first choice, I had this choice as soon as you announced it. I was like, of course. What do you got?

I had three songs right away. Monkeys have been in a very important part of my life, like for my whole life. Detail. Detail. Well, when I was about seven or eight, I watched King Kong, the original, 1933. on Magic Shadows, L.B. Yost show on TV Ontario, and they would split the movies up over,

you know, like five minutes or whatever. Is this with Faye Ray? Yeah, yeah. Good Canadian Faye Ray. But so that was the time when I was, like, getting into monster movies and I was getting into animation

and, like, fantasy films and stuff. So it was always, King Kong was like, like the top of my list, always still, one of my favorite films a lot of time. But he's not a monkey, right? He's a big ape.

He's a big, we're going to have an ape monkey conversation today, for sure. It's a primate show, I'm going to say. By the end of this, we're going to agree. called gorillas is a gorilla, an ape?

They're all primates, right? Yeah, I think it's going to be a primate. Even the Doctor's A's opening, those aren't monkeys. Those are not, no. But they're primates. They all go together. And then in 76, which was a very good year, the King Kong, the version came out with Jeff Bridges and what's her name, Jessica?

Oh, yeah. And I went to see that in the theater when I was 10, and I was obsessed with that. I was very sad when the monkey fell off the World Trade Center. And like, I shed a tear at the end when he died. Wow. So I've never seen this version. He was the World Trade Center?

Yeah, he was on top of the World Trade Center. Center. I did not know that. The posters were him, like, straddling both buildings, like both towers. Yeah, I remember seeing that. That's like a classic Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was really good. So this song came out in 82, fall of 82 for Peter Gabriel. It was his first top 40 hit in North

America, start of his... Oh, wow. Yeah, first real big hit. Which to... Because he was bigger... Obviously, it came from Genesis, but his solo work was very popular in England, but not necessarily on this side of the... Well, he was bigger as an alternative artist in the early... I mean, of course, coming from Genesis, people wanted to hear what he did. But as far as getting mainstream air...

play this was really the first song. I think about it now. September 82 was when we had just released our Spoon's album, Arias and symphonies. So we were like on the charts at the same time, which I think now, oh, that's really cool. No wonder I love this album so much. Like, I just loved his solo albums before this anyway.

And there was a song kicked out on the F-O-T-M-K-O-T-J Valentine's Day episode, which is the most recent episode in the Toronto Mic Feed by Y-Y Z, Gord. That was a Peter Gabriel hit because, say anything. Oh, say anything. In your eyes, yeah, yeah. It's great. I mean, yeah. I think this is one of those. It's obvious.

If you're going to do a top five, this is in the top five of monkey songs. Yeah, for sure. Like, if you're going to do a top five monkey songs, this is in there. Yeah. You got, I feel like you can't even Hanson this sucker. No. Right. Right. Like, one of us had to kick it out. Yeah. Yeah. I, I think some... I considered it. Did you? That's why I emailed you that night. I was like, I got to get him in before. I'm going to save it for Bob's first jam. But all three of us picked one song. Yeah. And I gave it.

So the best part was, and it's coming soon. But I have a little add-on here from Rob Bruce. But so I did my three first. Yeah, I just do them. I bang them out. And then Rob sends me his three. And I realize we have a dupe. And I give it to Rob.

And Rob, you have this. I'll get another one. I have a backup or whatever. And then Bob's, I'll just tell them this. I was late. I'm not normally that. I've got to last night. I have been.

You were very stew-stoneish on that regard. So, but then Bob kicked out that same jam, which will be Bob's first jam. And then Rob gave it to Bob. It was very good. So I gave it to Rob And Rob gave it to Bob. We passed it along. We passed it like a dutchy man. This was literally though, like the first song that came to my head.

Shock the monkey was your number one. This was my number one. Yeah, but we're going to kick out something that Rob sent me first. Okay. Oh, this is a cover. Weirdly. You sent it to me. I know.

Weirdly a cover of Chalka Monkey. You sounded surprised. No, I know. But listen for the voice. There's a guest artist. Okay, I'm listening. This is cold chamber, by the way. Oh, is it?

I thought it was just a story. Distribedish. It's very disturbedish. Very distributed. It's like... Ozzy. Ozzie, you got it. Wow.

That's Ozzy's weird. That's a distinctive way. This is 1999. They did this cover version. Wow. I never heard of the best name. Yes. I never heard this band before. I actually...

It's funny because I did that... I did the cover of simple minds. Don't you forget about me? The heavier one? I have a whole playlist now on my Spotify of heavy covers. I love that. Like orgy.

Yeah. Blue Monday. Yeah, there's a whole bunch of them are. Fear Factory cars. Cars, yeah. Oh, that's cool. You can do a whole thing like you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've got a playlist of a... Limp biscuit. Yes. Just the same way you can do like piano versions, like music box versions. Disturbed it a lot. They did it with Simon and Garfunco.

Yeah, sound of silence. But I thought this was interesting. There's not many versions of... It's fine to hear Ozzy's voice. You know, he's no longer with us. Yeah. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home. Shout out to Ridley Funeral Home.

By way, I have confirmation on the live stream. This is another exciting announcement. Confirmed by the VPS sales. That's his fourth mention today, by the way. He owes me large for this. I'm here to tell you it is, in fact, pillars of the community like I've been saying. So I've had it right for many, many years. And I shouldn't doubt myself.

And Mike says, Tobias Vaughn says, third moon rocks. So you guys, one of you have to bring home the third moon to drink responsibly. That's definitely more your style than mine. I'll take it home for when I get home. Listen, no heavy machinery can be used after you down that idea. I can play the piano, though. Of course you can. Shock the monkey.

Canada Kev says, Monkey Man by the Stones rocks. And he says Monkey Man by the Specials also rocks. And Leslie says, let's see if any of my monkey jams make the list. She's a big fan of also of Monkey Man by the Rolling Stones. Do you remember the video for Shock the Monkey where there was like the monkey being tested and like getting shocks? Oh, yes. There was a Matthew Broderick movie around that time.

I feel like me. Do you remember this movie? Yes. Testing on animals. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was. Maybe Sarah Jessica Parker, who's married to the guy. It was like,

right around the same time as war games. And then I just remembered, isn't Matthew Broderick in Lion King? Yeah. Is he a voice in Lion King? Or maybe he does something with... He's the voice of Simba, isn't he? No.

Am I wrong? No. Get out of town of that. What are you talking about? I think he is. No, that's the guy from... the sitcom with Project X.

Oh yeah. 1984. Those are monkeys, right? Those are chimpanzees. They're not monkeys? They're chimpanzees. Primate, okay. Remember 12 monkeys?

No, you guys, I never saw this show. I remember that. Tim Allen had the number one show on TV for a long time. Yeah, yeah. What was the name of that show? Home Improvement. The kid and that was the voice of the... Oh, yeah, yeah, Jonathan Taylor Thomas, JT, T.C.

That's his name. Yeah, Project X is a... Remember the end of that movie? Because they taught him how to smoke, and he... Oh, it's a good movie! It kind of trauma. me. Yes, it did. Me too. I was 11 one. It was on, what's it called? First

Choice Super Channel. Oh, yeah, right. Oh, my God. You're bringing me back. Yes. Shout out to Chris Ward, who's on the live stream, okay? And shout out to Hey Ref, who's also in the FOTM, KOTJ Love Song episode. And Jeremy Hopkin has joined us. I believe he might be at the dentist. He told me he had to miss.

He's going to be at the dentist. So good luck with all that. Okay. That's a lot there. I'm now going to kick out Bob's first jam. And remember, all three of us actually pick this monkey jam. And here it is. And there will be two versions of this. I was going to say, is this the single or is this the album? There's two versions of this.

So do you have mind blows for this, Rob, since you had it until last night? Just the second version. Okay, okay. So Bob does it. It's his game. Yeah, I don't have any mind blows today. I'm sorry.

But maybe verbal mind blows. But I do have a couple, yeah, I have a couple verbal mind blows. Just so this. Mind blow me orally. Yes, sir. If you insist. So first of all,

Okay, this is Monkey, obviously, George Michael from Faith, 1987's album. It's a big one. So the album Faith is produced by George Michael, but this song has Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis on it. They did the remix. They did the remix of it, which of course, Jimmy Jam, Terry Lewis,

very much responsible for that new Jack Swing sound that we love. So very much. Shout to Jana Jackson. I mean, the thing is at that time, Control came out in 86. Yes. So they were hot. Yeah.

Right. So they did the remix. I love the fact that this is like the single version. Yeah. Welcome to Radio in the 80s. 447. And the album version was 502. Yeah. Crazy. This is the first song that came to head.

Monkey Jams, this came to my head. This is my second song. So 11 songs on Faith, I think. Seven of them were singles and almost all of them went to number one. Can I try to name them? Oh, do it. Yeah. No notes off the top of me.

Yeah. I got it right here. So obviously the first big single was Faith. Yeah. It wasn't the first big single. What was the first big single? I want your sex was. I want your sex was right.

That was before the album came out even. Yes. So, yeah. Kik, Kik, Kik, K'em on. I love that, yeah. Okay, so I want your sex was first. Then Faith. Yeah.

Then Father figure. Yep. With your tiny hand in mine. Yeah. What's a great song, right? Father figure's the best. I love that song. So much.

This album is so great. Should do a George Michael musical. Yeah, but they should do a George Michael musical. Absolutely. It would be amazing. Get, like, have a whole thing. I told you, I just saw that doc on last Christmas. I feel like, I feel like we need a George Michael's.

Do you remember the video he had? because remember he got caught in the bathroom and he had like the urinals and everything. With all the models. Yes. Oh, yeah, that was another album. Yeah. So I'm going to just change the order now. I'm going to say,

praying for time. Nope. That's not on this album. That's on. It was a single. Yeah, yeah. No, what's the one way? And teacher.

Yep. You got it. Yep. That I don't want to learn. Yep. You're right. And the last one has made me cry. So give.

Is it called one more time? One more try. Very good. That song is great too. Awesome. But this song. Monkey. I'm missing any right? Yeah, so there's two you're missing right now.

So can we think on this? One you're not going to get because I didn't know it was a single. Hard day? Yes. Yeah. Oh, the chef. I did the Shepp Petty Bone Remix. Yes. That was the go-to version with Shepp Petty Bone remix of Harvard Day. I didn't think you guys got. So you got one more left. A Hard Day. Such a hard day.

So this November 21st, 1988, the last single is released. After Monkey. It was going to be how many words? Three words. And it's, and it's, It's a, I think it's, yeah, it's a little bit of a slower one, I think, yeah. I don't know. Oh, God, give me the first letter.

K. Oh, kissing a fool. Yes. Good job. Thank you. I had faith the album, the cassette, actually. I have it on vinyl still. You must have been kissing.

And it was a play-through. It reminded me, I remember feeling, oh, this is like in excesses kick. Yeah. Where I can listen to all the song. All the way through. Yep. It's true. Yeah.

Shout out to Shep Pettybone. Shep Pettibone did so many good remixes for people. I remember bringing him up with the pandemic Friday crew. They didn't know the name. Oh, really? I remember when you did that. Yeah, so many great remixes with Shep Pettibon remixes. But also specifically on the Faith album, it says Shep Pettibone remix. Because I think George had recorded it first.

Yeah. And then Shep did the remix and he put that on the album. My memory of Monkey 2 is like, we were on tour in the summer of 88 with Honeymoon Suite. We had just released our third album. And we were doing a Canadian tour. And I have a very specific memory of being in a hotel somewhere like in the middle of the country. and seeing the video for Monkey because he had just released it

and thinking, holy shit, he's so good. Yeah. Like it was unbelievable. And then I got to see him that summer. I had, we had like a little break in the tour

and I came with my girlfriend down to New York and we saw George at Madisonburg Garden. Wow, that's one of my big regrets. I never saw George Lincoln. Oh, yeah. I love George Martin.

I didn't see anything. Amazing. So this is the album version. So this is what's on faith. Yeah. It's much simpler. Stripped down. I almost have to play them back to back,

but, okay. Monkey. It's good, kicka, kicka, come on. Yeah. I want your sex as a banger. It sure is. Oh, so good.

Never forget that. Sex is best when it's one on one. They'd never play that shit on the radio today. I think you're wrong because I hear white-ass pussy. Yeah, but there would be more people complaining with George Michael. I think you're wrong. I hear, sometimes I hear this from, no offense. I hear from boomers or whatever.

Oh, this thing couldn't be on the radio today because it's so, whatever, controversy or whatever. But I actually think it's the other way. I feel like the stuff I hear on Top 40 now is more explicit than I want your sex, which is a pro monogamy song. Yeah, but I don't think so. I think that because in that era, it was mainstream music. Top 40 was for everybody.

Now everything is in silos. He explains wet-ass pussy. Wasn't that mainstream? No. There's no mainstream anymore. It's not mainstream. If kids listen to it, Bob, you're the radio expert. That's not.

Wet-ass pussy. If kids listen to it. Tell us about wet-ass pussy. There's no mainstream anymore. That's the problem. We're having two different conversations, I think. Well, they relate. Yeah, they do, but they, but, you know, to say whether or not I want your sex could be on the radio today versus the fact that wet-ass pussy, a very, by the way, redacted version, if you will.

You know, and even like hip-hop lyrics in general are so redacted. It's like, you can't hear it. I don't even think I want your sex is that controversial? It's not controversial, but it was controversial back then. Definitely not controversial now. Americans lost the American, like, that's when they started, like, wanting to label records. Like, do me by poise. Do me by, uh, Belved DeVoe. Yeah. Sure. I think, uh, yeah, now you got me off on it.

You mentioned Belbe's DeVos. Um, the, the, the difference is with, you mentioned that this when they started trying to like label things. This is when, yeah, the parents council. This is, uh, Tipper Gore, all that stuff. Yeah. This was when that happened. But what that did is, all that did was, make them release different versions of things. I mean, there's a version of Aerosmith's Janie got a gun where they take out the shot him in the head. Right, right. You know, like the Americans are so...

Puritanical. They can, yeah, like really can be. But then again, at the same time, they also are releasing some of the most heinous stuff out there, like, lyrically. So, no, I know. I don't know a song, I don't know what becomes controversial anymore. Like, I actually don't think

there is anything that could like tip the, like, there would have to be like homophobic. Yes, that would be, and then it wouldn't. Or racist. They're anti-Semitic. Oh my God. What about that song that the guy,

um, at the alternative Super Bowl, that country singer with that terrible song. Oh my God. That was hilariously bad. Like, it was so bad. But the,

that's what those fucking people live for. Did you find out, did you hear they actually recorded that like two weeks before? Really? It wasn't live and it was a whole, how to have a whole bunch of retakes and stuff. Of course. Anyway,

but you have the controversy of George Michael and I want your sex in those days. Top 40 was listened to everybody. People still bought records. Now people don't buy records. They stream records. Kids don't have the same devotion to the music that we did back then, that you did back then. They have a different kind of devotion. It's a different kind of devotion. It's not, they don't have to like, it's a whole

other conversation. But, you know, sex is natural, sex is good. Not everybody does it, but everybody should. You could play this song unedited on the radio in 2026. You could, but it wouldn't matter because there's no radio. There's no mainstream. All it works there, you know. You got to be careful. Yeah, but it's not the same thing. When you, you have to have a, you have a chapel. Roan's not mainstream?

She's, well, there's a few people that are mainstream, but not in the way that it used to be. Oh, well, I think when you're using the word mainstream, I think you, I think, what I'm hearing is you're saying, they're the prolific, but they're everywhere. We need a common voice. Pervasive, they're everywhere. Those artists aren't, there are, there are a lot less.

In the 80s, there were 20 artists that were everywhere. They were 40. There were hundreds. Like everybody heard of George Michael. Like Huey Lewis in the news and Holland Oates and, uh, George Michael and Prince and Madonna. Okay, that's what I was going to say. Look, there was controversy with the Madonna video for,

Like a Prayer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a prayer. You're right. Even before, Justify My Love. The Pepsi had to be pulled. That's right. Oh, my God.

His Jesus was there. Yeah, that's right. And there was a black guy who kissed her. That's right. That was what the big thing was. Was it Jesus who kissed her? The statue came to life. But he was black.

It was black Jesus, which is a never last song. And they were burning crosses and all that. Yeah, yeah. So that was, yeah, they lost their minds of. with that. I like this child. What's that? I said I like this chat.

I like talking about this because you're right. You don't hear the wet-ass pussy song, which was all over Top 40 Radio, was a censored version. But there's no such thing as Top 40 Radio. That's what I'm saying. See, I think you're wrong. I'm not wrong. Well, what's KISS 92.5 then? Well, yeah, it's just, that they play hit, they play old hits.

No, they don't. They play crap. They play new songs. Oh, Sabrina Carpenter's all over it. Sure. But this is like what you were saying, there's a smaller number of mainstream people now, right? It's a smaller. selection.

Yeah. But on the other side, what's made it better is that there's more opportunity for everybody to find their own, like, different lanes now. So many more lanes. There's so many more lanes. Yeah. And, you know, the medium's the message, right? Like, I mean, there's so many ways you could become popular.

People sell out, um, the ACs or whatever, Scotia Bank, yeah, with zero radio play. Exactly. Olivia has, or Lave. Use Lave from Iceland. Totally. Levee sold out two nights at Scotia Bank. She played two nights at Massacre Garden, too? Never heard of her.

That's a great example. there are a lot of this, that happening for me. I feel like an old name. But I think the best example is we just had a critically acclaimed commercially successful Super Bowl halftime show

where I will tell you now, I couldn't have named a single bad money song. But I actually watched it and enjoyed it. I still can't name a bad money song. But that's fascinating. I love it. It's totally different. Yeah.

Yeah. This would be the commercial critical success. Like we know who he is. It's more about the name recognition is more important than the art that they're creating. But that's a new thing. Yeah, I don't know about that.

Like this whole, like this is a reggaeton. Yeah. The only reggaeton song I know is Con Calma by Daddy Yankee. I know those words you're saying. It's essentially informer by Snow. Oh, is it really? And Snow gets a verse on it. Yeah.

So that's, that's my knowledge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not for you, though. Well, it's not for me. Well, it's not for me. But I did enjoy the halftime show. It's just interesting that we live in an era where somebody can be that big and you don't know a fucking song, but no, I think it's actually better in a lot of ways now because,

I mean, I was in the world where you wanted to get on the top 40. Oh, yeah. And if you got it. A small amount of people. There were hundreds of stations around the country and around the world playing your song. And it was as much, it was like gatekeepers.

So there's no gatekeepers now. Which makes it better for sure in many ways. I remember your day. Yeah, you couldn't sell albums unless kids heard your songs either on the radio or on MTV slash much music. Yeah. But also selling was the key point.

The kids then actually took money or said, Mom, I need money to go buy this record. So they bought the records. Now you have a constant stream of music that is going, it's filtering through. There's a high, top of the percentage of people who are making the money off of that. Very few.

But the perception is that a lot of people are successful, which is super cool because there is a lot of good music being made that would have never been heard otherwise. The touring part of things is also a whole other conversation because that's where the money is now. And unfortunately that money's all going to Live Nation. I listen to a podcast. It's my favorite podcast. It's called 500 songs, I think it's called.

And I keep hearing about how that was the model back in the day, like 60s into the 70s was all, no one expected to make money on their music. They made the money touring. Like it did, we had, it was that, and then it changed. Yeah. It was the 80s, yeah. It came back. Okay.

So, because I bought so many CDs for 1899 that had one song I really wanted on it. Yeah. I did over it down. And here's also, let's go back to the 90s, okay? I feel like we were just in the 80s. What was the, oh, we were in the 80s for both? Oh, yes, that's right. Two 80s games.

82 and 88. By the way, I just watched a movie. Oh, it's terrible. Oh, can I, can I have a fact check quickly? Robert Lawson you just for one second Matthew Broderick was a voice

in the Lion King of Simba I just know he did a lot of work Well he did the older Simba It was Jonathan Taylor Thomas was young Simba And Matthew Broderick was old Simba

Thank you for fact I was thinking A young Simba I know That's okay We were both right It's been a while Since I saw Lion King

Okay Let's just kick out this jam I'm kicking out This is only your first jam Let's go Yeah I'm gonna go here We're gonna get going

Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah That is a good guitar sound.

These boys are from Kingston. This is the Headstones. It's good. Hugh Dillon and the Headstones here. This is a cover, but I'll play the original in just one moment here. This is a song, you fellow 90s Canadian alt-rock heads will remember from our rock radio. It is from the debut album from the Headstones, which was called Picture of Health.

This came out in 1993. I would hear this on the radio, and I had no fucking clue it was a cover. Wow. RIP, I didn't know this. Shout out to Ridley Funer Home, Jesse Jackson. I didn't hear this. I'm sorry.

Well, you're not in the WhatsApp group. We discussed it this money. Oh, I am. Brad Jones himself broke that news to me. My apologies. We rarely get a shout out to a really funeral home. Yeah, a big loss. Sorry, please.

I remember when Michael Dukakis was the nominee, that there was a lot of momentum for Jesse Jackson to be the Democratic nominee. That was 1988. Maybe around that time, yeah. So sorry, this is. Yeah, because Reagan went 80 to 88, and then it was going to be W, not W, HW. HW. And he went against Dukakis.

And Dukakis was an idiot. Well, well, you lost. He did lose. And then it was a one-termer for HW because. then the Clinton Express came. The Clinton Express moat everybody down. Our Headstones, FOTMs?

You know what? It was a long story, but Hugh Dillon was booked by his PR people, and it was in the books, and I was loaded up. In that day, I had all the jams loaded up. I was so fucking excited, Hugh Dillon in the basement. And then the PR said, oh, so sorry to do this last minute, but he has to do something else. I had a bigger thing, and it never

got re-booked, and I bring it up often, because I'm very petty and small. Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. He was a good guy, too. He's very forthcoming with his stories these days. Well, I hope to one day get Hugh Dillon in the basement here. I would love to fucking do that. But what's interesting is I'm going to play the original in one second here. But Hugh Dillon would change some references.

There's a lot of American references in this song, and he would change it to reference, like, Kingston, for example. He would change lyrics to make it more Canadian. But did you know Bob Willett when this song was rocking in the 90s? Did you know it was a cover? I did not. Nope. I don't feel so bad now.

We're going to roll into the original and then a little more. Headstones are great live. Yeah, really? It sounds so good. Nice. Look at you. That's the same version. That's why.

That was smooth, but it was good. All right, I fucked up, you know. I fucked up. I fucked up. That was really good. I did. I actually fucked up. I actually had a...

You loaded the wrong one twice. Yeah. My apologies. Give me a second, guys. All right. Yeah, they used to do... With Craig Venn, I saw you, Craig Venn and Lucky's Unsilent Night when we were at 94-9 The Rock. We did a bunch of Christmas concerts, we called them, at the Phoenix Concert Theater with these guys.

And also in the Oshawa. Really, really great live, just like straight ahead rock and roll. I like it so much I played it twice. That's how much I fucking loved Twitter and the Monkey Man by those guys. But I do want to play the original, even though I have to go to YouTube before it because I fucked up. Humble and Fred tell a story about Hugh Dillon playing some Christmas party. It wouldn't go on with a weed or something like that. It was a little beer.

We finally got him a beer. I was there. Twitter and the Monkey Man world. They stayed up all night. God, that Headstone's version is better. Well, I far prefer the Headstones version. Yeah, this is the original. Traveling Wilburys?

Bingo. I remember this song. Yeah. Yeah, this is from the volume one, as they called it. Traveling Wilburys volume one, Tweeter the Monkey Man. And it is Bob Dylan singing, of course. He's the main songwriter of this song. Yeah, this is the OG.

It's great. But the other ones... To me, like, if I'm good... Yeah, to me, there's no comparison. So, lest we forget, the Traveling Wilburys, of course. They were all 40. I know. And everyone was those old dudes.

Yeah. Can you name the living members of the Traveling Wilburys? Bob Dylan That's one There's one more Jeff Lynn Correct that's it But was he in the band as well

I thought he's just a Wilburry He was No he's all over He's 100% of full-time member I thought he was just like as a producer But he was in the photos and stuff as well Did you ever watch Billions with

With Paul Giamatti And Michael Anyways there's a whole thing about Whether or not somebody's Worthy to be a Wilburry Really? Yeah it's a whole thing about it

That's how they got Royer Orbison in. They wanted Roy to be it. And he was the oldest one at 50. Yeah, yeah. It was Tom Petty. I think it was Tom Petty and Dylan talked about. They wanted. Here's a fun fact about Roy Orbison. He wasn't blind, eh? Did you know that? I knew that. I always knew that. When I was a kid, I thought he was blind. So here's the fun fact. And he died so young, younger than Rob is right now. Oh, geez. Not much older than I am right now. Really? He died. Wow. So Roy Orbison is the only member of the traveling Wilburys who's not on this song. Wow. Is he just not there

in the studio that day? That's the only song in the album he's not on so I don't know he just wasn't there or what was going on here but shout out to Twitter and the monkey man

my monkey jam any words raw before your first my second? Your second jam my second was originally my third and now it's my second oh that's true

because you gave a jam to me we shared that was a communal jam that was a communal jam yeah I was happy because like it's just such a perfect song

all right here we go Okay. So I don't know if Bob has the same question, but I got a big question off the top here. You got to just keep listening. Yeah. Great song, though. I love this.

This was literally the three songs that came into my head. I'm surprised to hear this is the song that jumps in your head for Monkey Jams. You'll find out why when he gets a verse two. Do you know any of the lyrics in this song at all? Yeah, like it was on 680 CFTR all the time. It was a big hit in 1988. Yeah. I have the, I don't know what.

You know what? It's funny, this is from 1988. Yeah. Tell me when to shut up so we can hear it. It's coming up. After there's a little musical break. You keep talking. Because the Traveling Wilburys album came out in 1980.

That's right. And Faith came out 87. Both the hits were 80. Faith and Terrestrial Darby both came out on the same day in October 87. Wow. And I went to Tower Records on Sets Up Boulevard to buy both of them because we were recording our Honey Honey and Sweet album. October 87.

Wow. Yeah. Okay. Here comes the... Oh, I was going somewhere about 80s content, but after we hear your lyric. Here it comes. It's all about this. Like a what?

That's right up there with me saying that a tired song plays on a tired radio is a radio jam. It was all about the monkey see, monkey do. Come on now. That was my only reason for this stupid. I like it. It's very weak. It's weak. So is my Gougu Doll's name.

Remember I did name as a radio jam? Well, that was week too. I know. I've heard people over the years. Here's like call this song. Oh, the monkey see a monkey do song. Really? Yes.

I've never heard anybody call it. Yeah, but you're not as old as I am. That's not a thing. Stop trying to make that effect. No, it's true. So Terrence Tran Jarby, when that album came out,

I was obsessed with him. I saw him play. I drove to see him play at the spectrum in Montreal. Wow. In the spring of 88, and then I saw him the next day at the concert hall. And he was one of the best live acts

I've ever seen. Is he a one hit wonder? Yeah, pretty much. Didn't he say he was bigger than the Beatles? That was like, that was a whole thing with him. He got into big trouble.

He was super outspoken. Sananda Mitrea is his name now. And they've re-released all his music. And they basically just changed name on the records. And to me, it looks so stupid. Because, like, you know, you're Terrance Trent Derby. You can change your name, but leave the artwork like it was originally. Oh, that's weird.

But he was so good live. He had such a good band. Wow. He had a horn sections and stuff. And he was a dynamic performer. But one hit wonder. Can somebody on the live stream find out the second highest charting Terence Trent Derby song? If You Let Me Stay was the first single.

And it was probably, that was... Oh, that didn't chart very much. It probably was a low charting song. Especially if it, because you can ride the wave, right? Yes. If you have a big hit like this, your next single, even if it's kind of shitty, we'll ride the wave and chart. He had a song called Sign your name, a ballad. Oh, I remember that.

Sign your name across my heart. Yep. I want you to be my big to a wonder. That was all over CFT. Yes, it really was. Yeah, not a one hit wonder. If you let me stay was a minor hit, but it was the opening song on the album. And I think it was a hit in England.

And then wishing well was the one here. No, not a one hit one hit. Yeah. But one album really hit under. He released a couple more rounds. Sign your name was a big jam. Yeah. It's a great song.

It's a great song. Monkey see monkey dude. I know. You know what? I think there's going to be some controversy when it comes to whether things are monkey songs or not. Including my, my selections that are coming up. These are legitimate what came to mind.

Yeah, that's fine. But all of mine are going to be true monkey jams. Of course. This is your scene. This was your... I picked it. Thank you, Skinrow for me picking it. That's right.

By the way, quick, quick aside here, just because we talked about 80s jams a lot, this episode is that I just watch Marty Supreme. I watched yesterday. This is a Oscar nominated film. You know what? I would have liked it a lot more if I didn't have to see that fucking traitor, Kevin O'Leary in that movie. He's all

over this thing. I fucking hate seeing him. Weird. It's like, why don't you stick Wayne Gretzky and Tate O'Neil? What's her name? Tate O'Neary? What is her name? Tate Ray? Tate Ray. What's her name? Tate McCray. Are you calling her a traitor? She's just a kid, man. Yeah, but well, she's old enough to know better.

Oh, my God. What about Scott Moyer? Scott Moyer? Scott Moier's coaching an American team, and so he's wearing American jacket. Is he a traitor? He's got a job. He's got to fucking do his job. So was Tate doing her job? Yes.

By promoting the American Indians? Yes. Yes. I'm burning all my Tate McCray albums. She's a kid from Calgary who took a gig. By the way, when you say a kid, you know, she's not a kid. Like, she's in her 20s, right? How old is Tate McCray?

She's in her 20s, that's all I know. I don't know what kid means anymore. But you thought the movie was okay. Yeah. She's 22 years old. Okay. Okay. So, you know, she's 14 years old.

Might as well be. The movie was fine. In fact, Timothy Shalamey was, this is my opinion, of course, was exceptional. He was great. And the movie was fine. It was interesting because the movie's taking place in the 1950s. And suddenly Alphaville's Forever Young is,

Oh, I hate you. I don't like when that happens. There's a lot of that. throws you off. So I'm like, oh, maybe this movie will take us to the 80s or something or whatever, but there was a lot of, like, there's a lot of 80s jams. Yeah. in this 50s movie.

It's incongruent. Yeah, right. It's in congruent. I don't like it. I'm watching industry right now, which is taking place in the current time. And I notice industry likes to do a big, they're big on their needle drops.

And it's often a big 80s jam like Alphaville's Forever Young. Whoever owns that song, I feel is doing very well. I feel like forever young is getting used a lot. It's getting used a lot. And it's when you hear it, you're happy to hear it. So I know why they're using it.

It's a great fucking song here. But they should be using the spoon song as far as I'm concerned. Okay. So I'm going to say that's, that's a weak-ass monkey song. Thank you. A bit of a stretch. I knew it was.

But I didn't fight my feeling. I didn't fight my feeling. I didn't fight the feeling. It's a shitty feeling. I can't fight this feeling any longer. No. Arios Smeway. I went all Arios Bwayway.

Or you can do Justin Timberlake. Can't stop the feeling. Can't stop the feeling. Can't stop the feeling. I hate that fucking song, by the way. Monkey see monkey do. Okay. Bob, any words?

No, honestly, the second song that came to tamed in my mind when it came to monkey songs. And I don't even know if it's a monkey song. So here we go. Okay, I'll bail us out with some monkey songs when it's my turn here. So here is Bob's second monkey jam.

George, George, George of the jungle, strong as he can be. Watch out for that tree. George, George, George of the jungle lives a life that's free. Watch out for that tree. When he gets his strength, he makes him escape with a help all the same. An ape name, Dave. And ape, name, Dave. Then a wave, you'll schlep on the elephant, while Bella and Ursula stay in step.

With George, George, George of the... George. It's short, don't worry. I guess to watch this one. Me too. Oh, yeah. Watch out for that tree. Watch out for that...

Is that the original? It sounds really good. No, no, no. No, no. No, this is a cover of the voice. What's that? Brob didn't recognize that voice. Oh, no, this is weird Al Yangevickbeck.

Oh, it is? Yeah. I did not know. No, this is from Dare to Be Stupid. Yeah. So this is from Dare to Be Stupid. And I remember watching Georgia the Jungle the cartoon as well. And an ape named Ape and all that.

This particular version is from the cassette that I had from Columbia House of Dare to Be Stupid. Put your head in a microwave and give yourself a tan is one of my favorite lines ever that still resonates in my head. I don't know. Is that a, when I think of Georgia the Jungle, I think of primates. I think of monkeys. And that's what came to my head. I don't know. So I would say it's a great primate jam.

Yeah. Okay, thank you. Good. I appreciate that. It's one step above. Way better than Rob. Well, by the... I mentioned monkey see monkey do,

but yours is definitely more monkey related. Yeah, I think so. This particular... I will say this. The best comedy recording of 1986, by the way, is Dare to Be Stupid. Oh, yeah. By Weird Al.

Did you have eat it on it? No, this had like a surgeon. Oh, yeah. I want to do duck instead of... if I want a new drug. Yeah. And it had, Dare to Be Stupid.

Dare to be stupid. It also had, is it Lola? No, there was one. Oh yeah. Yeah. And it was Yoda. Y-O-D-A.

Yeah, yeah. Instead of Lola, by the Kinks, it was Yoda. Y-O-D-A-Yoda. Anyways, when I was in 86,

I was 10, it was hilarious. That's my monkey jam. You just reminded me that somebody recently told me that Weird Al does a version of American Idiot

called Canadian Idiot. Yeah. I have never heard it. I'm going to listen to it. Yeah. He's amazing. live. People love him. I gave away weird Al tickets on the radio

and people were, I'm going to say, clamoring. They were clamoring. No, I love myself some weird ow. Absolutely. Now, I'm going to just read some live stream comments because they're kind of interesting. One is Dan Jay, actually first, Jeremy Hopkins says, no, actually, I'm going to skip all these.

Dan Jay says Jesse Jackson had a good run in 84 against Mondale. And I'm here to report, this is a blind spot. So I come alive for the 88 election, but in 84, I didn't follow it at all. I was still too young. So that may be true. I just didn't remember it because it was 84 election. I don't remember. So 88 was the first election I followed in the United States of America. When you were 10 years old. I was 10 years old. Yeah, I was watching that. So I also

want to shout out a comment. The problem of his interfaces, it jumps when someone leaves a comment. But Canada Kev says, excellent black and white concert film of Roy Orbison that you can find. So that's cool. But here's the one I want to address. That's a long way to wait away. Chris Ward. Not Christopher Ward, by the way. That's different. Chris Ward says NBC came to Tate. How do you blame her? She's been great in SNL, and this could pave the way for a third appearance. I'm here to say I blame her 100% because, yeah, NBC came to her to promote the American

Americans at the Olympics. And I'm here to tell you, as a Canadian, I have the right to blame her for accepting the gig and promoting the American team, especially, again, this kind of ties into the whole separatist movement in Alberta, but it's about timing. The president of the United States one year ago, for at least a year now, has been, you know, repeating rhetoric about how Canada should be the 51st state. So in that climate,

I don't take kindly to a Canadian, she's Alberta, by the way, Canadian promoting Team America for NBC. I don't care of the Canadian team at all. No, it's in America. It's for NBC's Olympic coverage. Well, she could have even... They probably don't even show Canadians. Yeah. Oh, they definitely don't. So I don't like it. And

fuck that. I don't want to... I don't like it. I put her in the same category as Kevin O'Leary. and Wayne Gretzky and all the other that is the only time ever that Tate McCrae will be mentioned in the same category as those two old fuckers. There's no way. I'm just,

here's the, I'm going to say one more thing. I'm going to say at some point she'll, I feel she'll regret poisoning the Canadian well because she might want to lean on her Canadianity at some point. Do you know what I think?

Canadianity. I got that from Teggard and Torrens. Do you know, uh, do you know what I think? I think it's a whole bunch of hoo-ha about a little bit of a hubbleau. A hubbilloo.

Hey, I'm not protesting at, you know, Queens Park. I'm here telling you I'm disappointed in her. Yeah. Look, here's, I don't like it. That's fine. You don't have to like it. I think it makes a drop of difference in anything that she did that. And I don't think it makes her a bad Canadian that she took a paycheck. I think Canada's already shown, you know, you said last year was the big elbows up thing.

But we're already, they are feeling it down there. Oh, yeah. Do you see the Vegas numbers? Yeah. Do you see the Florida? When NBC comes to you, say no. Yeah. Yeah, but easy for you to say.

Like, oh, the ride of comedy festival comes to you and says you're going to go do a million dollars and go perform in Saudi Arabia or whatever. It's easy for all of us to sit here and sit on our, you know, sit behind your microphone and go, I wouldn't accept that money. And good for you. If you're a better person than I, because if somebody from the United States came right now and offered me a half a million dollars to go do a radio show in the United States, I would be there in a second. but you're not doing a show where you talk go America go I would if I had to if it was a sports thing I don't like that either I'm putting you on the list I mean I'm a homer

Are you in the Hall of Fame? Is it too late to take? No, I'm a homer but I'm like I am always going to be a homer Yeah But it was like it was just a bit That's all like it's a paid bit I don't like it You don't like it I didn't see the bit

But out like I would think that like as a Canadian If you have an opportunity to like just say everybody is a winner and like you could like jokingly say like I'm Canadian sauce over there I'm Canadian but you know sure whoever like but I'm Canadian so I'm rooting for the Canadians you can like say that shit even in the context of NBC or whoever right it's like me if somebody in the old days if somebody said oh you're a band from Toronto I'd be like fuck off we're from Burlington like that mattered to me you know what I mean it should matter to yeah same kind of thing oh you're one of the and all the triplets in Burlington sorry that was another conversation

we had off air sorry that's so weird but for her I would think that at any point if you're a Canadian, you should, you could talk to, you could say the Americans, yeah, hype it up, but say, but also I'm Canadian, so I'm rooting for the Canadians as well. NBC is not hiring her to say I'm Canadian. I'll be honest. I don't even know what she did. I don't know what she did. I know. I know. I know she's up and he has

no idea what we're talking about. No, I know what she did. She did an ad for NBC. She did an ad in which in the ad, she's talking as if she is American about Go America Go basically. Okay. And I'm here. I don't want to, I don't want to see. I would be just as upset if Neil Young did an ad. Now, this is so far as far as. If Neil Young did an ad for NBC in which he talked about, like presented as an American,

you know, America, especially in this climate. If it's Obama Corps or something and we can talk about it or whatever. But the fact that the president is currently threatening our sovereignty, a Canadian artist presenting as an American, rubs me the wrong way and pisses me off. She took the money and ran. She did.

So fuck her in. One of her main songs is called Greedy. So there you go. All right, she's greedy. Okay, well, you know, she's not getting the Great Cup half-time show. So, as far as I'm concerned. Oh, well, you know, I mean, that's only for people like the nylons. The nylons.

Arkells get it. Green Day had it. Yeah, Green Day had it. What is this? Lenny Kravitz had it. And underwater guy will control the scene. What is this? I know.

You know what, this is, I will say, because we talked about Sonic Youth earlier. There is an alt-rock blind spot by Robbts. Oh, yeah. I know the name. I don't know their music off the top of my head for sure. All right, well, listen to me and tell me anything. Is that the bad Kim Gordon was in? Yes.

There you go. Oh, no, Kim Gordon is in Sonny's in. I'm sorry, Kim Diel, he means. Oh, Kim Dio. Not Kim Gordon. What about him was she in? Sorry, wrong Kim. Yeah.

Kim Gordon's in Sonic Youth. Yeah, yeah. Kim Diels in this story. Sorry, I was wrong to him. And you're probably thinking of the song Cannonball. that the deal sisters did together Yeah, sort of, yeah. Which was a great song.

I like this, but I don't know who it is. There's a close. This, my friend, I'll take turns. I'll get my two. This, my friend, is the Pixies. Oh, yeah, I know, blindspot. I know them. I know the name. I know the dude.

I think you love the Pixies, Frank Laugh. I think you love the Pixies. When I hear bits, I like it. Like, yeah, but it was just never a band that I, like, got devoted to. So this is also ready for this? This is required. recorded in

1988. Wow. When it comes out, the album's out in 89. Monkeys were huge apparently in the 80s. That's the thing. The album's called

Doolittle. Yeah. Oh, okay. I have a friend, one of the guys I worked with in a musical called Once,

he was obsessed with Doolittle. Yeah, well, Doolittle, like there's no Nirvana without this band. That's the key thing here.

No pixies, no nirvana. Shout out to Michael Williams. I love this part on. And the devil is six. Devil is six. So I call them Frank Black,

but let's call them proper. Black Francis. Oh, Black Francis, right. And I have a couple of fun mind blows here. So this is their first major label release. So this is the big election records. Monkeys gone to heaven is the name of the song. Is this your jam?

This is my monkey jam. This is your second jam. Yeah. I remember what's happening here. We've rounded the corner. You know, the Tate McCray Chatter discourse has got us all discombobulated. No, it's good. We have a lot of tangents.

Okay, so Black Francis, he's wrote this, he's on guitar, the guitar, he's on vocals, Joey Santiago lead guitar, we mentioned Kim Deal. She's doing backing vocals, you can hear. She does bass guitar and then David Lovering on drums. But a couple of quick little mind blows here. One is, we mentioned Black Francis, okay? So what if I told you, here let me play it. There was a guy. An underwater guy who controlled the sea. So this is Black Francis on his solo album.

Nice. Frank Black, right? From 2004. Give him a moment here. This monkey's gone to heaven? This monkey's gone to heaven. It's the name of the song. It's like an environmental song.

You got to listen to Black Francis, okay? This monkey's gone to heaven So here's a song I think Rob would know That alludes to this song. I think it when songs reference other songs, okay? So here's a big hit, seemingly everywhere at the time. The roof, the roof. It's one of the few things I can play in the guitar kind of.

The roof, the roof is on fire. Nope. In a moment. The roof, the roof is on fire. The roof, the roof. The roof is on fire We don't need no water Let the motherfucker burn

Burn, burn, motherfucker Burn So speaking of great needle drops Farenthood 9-11 You've seen this dawn Yeah, that's a It all comes back to Michael Moore Michael Moore

Yeah, yeah Fahrenheit 9-11 That's the first time I ever saw footage of the World Trade Center What? Yeah What do you mean? That's first time I ever saw it You didn't see it on TV when it happened?

You didn't see it on September 11th, and every day after that on CNN. Rob, what the fuck? Talk to me. I saw the World Trade Center with my own eyes on September 11th. Yeah, you didn't watch CNN or something? I didn't own a TV. So at 9.55 a.m. I saw the towers. I was on Union Square and I was down, saw it down the street.

Where were you? You were Union Square? We were rehearsing Mama Mia. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I was, I saw it. And I was like, there was a little like, a cigarette stand. I was like, I should buy a camera and take a picture. And I thought, I'll probably see it again.

And then I didn't own a TV and I went back to my apartment. I had to walk 90 blocks up to the Upper East Side. And never saw it and read the news. You know, pictures on the news or whatever. But the first time I ever saw that footage was in that film. That's fucking amazing. It was, I fucking bawled my eyes out.

But how is it possible you avoided that footage? I didn't have to avoid it. I never, I never saw a TV. No, but even with walking down the street in the Best Buy window or something. No. I looked away. I didn't see anything. I think that TV was not broadcasting in the same way that it is now. No, it was.

Oh, it was. We're 50 years old. Yeah, I know, that's true. Dude, I was on... 25 years ago, yeah. I was on the... I might have missed the 84 election. But you didn't miss...

September 11th, 2000. I didn't miss September 11th. No, the first time I saw it was in that film. Like that actual footage from like the Brooklyn footage of... Yeah, the guy's the second. Put a pin in this. Listen to the area. Yeah.

Okay. This hard-for-getto-gatter-ganger image takes a lot of whack-black. I'm not black like Barry White. No, I am white like Frank Black is So if man is five And the devil is six Then that must make me seven This punk ever

That's cool This monkey's gone Although I did you see that What's in there? We missed a little There's a little six seven in there Yeah, there was some six seven in there That's actually from the

The Pixies That's cool The six sevens up because Yeah It's all in there The devil is six The devil is six All that numerology is in there

I love that So there you go. The Bloodhound gang, that's who sings at about the two minute and 20 second mark, shouts out that song. We're kicking out Frank Black. This, yeah, the monkey gone to heaven by the pixies. And of course, the other big bad touch song, or the other big song by these guys is bad touch,

which is about monkeys having sex or animals having sex. And that song is referred to in one week. That's right. It's been? It's been. It's been. It's been. Really?

Yeah. While you watch X-Files, there's some of the X-Files. Yeah, yeah, yeah. On Discovery Channel. So. Yeah. Well, there you go. I knew you were going to do that.

Did you know? I thought it was an obvious one. I thought it was an obvious one after I came up with my first three. Actually. This song's kind of. It's really cool. A guilty pleasure. It was fine.

It kind of hikes you up and let's go. It's in the same vein as because I got high by Afro-Man. Right. For me. Who I thought was dead. he's not. He's touring. Affro-Man? I was going to clean my room and then I got high.

He's coming and playing. Kevin Smith put that on the soundtrack. He's playing in London at the Rock the Park. It's Omi, Nelly, cheerleader. Shaggy. Omi, Nellie Shaggy and Afro-Man. I'm like, I actually would go to that. I mean, I know you wouldn't, Rob.

But I like some of that. Okay, so I'm going to kick out, not even a listen to all of mine. Not a mind blow. But just so I get, just to recap this, and then maybe at another episode, it'll come up. And I'll leave it for today. Because it's a lot to kind of process here. But you're telling me, Rob Bruce, you were in New York City for 9-11. Yep.

And with your own eyes, you saw the World Trade Center. Did you see both of them on fire? They were both on fire. So you'd see, so you're in, in rehearsals? Yeah. Somebody comes in and says, hey, something's happened. No. No.

I woke up in the morning to get ready for rehearsal. And I was in the shower with the radio playing at like 9 or 845, whatever. And the news said, well, a small plane has hit the World Trade Center. We don't have any other details at this time. I was like, that's fucking. I don't even think they said small. Instead of a plane. Yeah.

Yeah. So then I was on the subway going downtown and people were like all kind of talking and it was weird. I remember somebody saying, I don't think it was an accident. And I was like, I don't know what's going on. So then I came up at Union Square at 14th Street, came up out of the subway and I looked south and saw the two power, two towers smoking. So both of them at that point had been hit. So it's like 9.15. It's like the moment we all said, oh, it's intentional.

Yes. That's like 915 or so. I came out of the subway at like 945. Oh, okay, so you're sorry. Oh, yeah,

yeah. And one's about to go. Yes, it was like, it was like, 10 minutes later or 15 minutes later. If I had stood there a little longer. Did you see that?

No, I did not. But one of our- See footage of that until the Fahrenheit 9-11 document. That's a fucking mind blow. Is it really?

That's, I feel like that's virtually impossible. Not TV or not. This is a man in his 30s. Yeah. Yeah. Who's living in New York. Yeah.

And the fact that you, The fact that you didn't see the tower collapse until the documentary. One of our other actors came in and just saw it. They saw it collapse? And you never had a moment like, oh, you have the internet on that computer? Let me see it. We didn't have internet in those days. There was no streaming.

There was no streaming. There was no streaming. No, there was no streaming. I streamed the entire newscast from a software company in Thorne Hill. In 2001? Yes. Well, you were high tech. No.

No, because my first job in 98, I had high-speed internet. No, and I was going to say in 2001, I was at AM 640 and I was doing the website of the week and doing, and I was... Your timelines are wrong on internet. Almost, most Canadians had access to high-speed internet in 2001.

Maybe you did. Me in New York City, I did not. Well, that might be true, but most did. But you know what? I remember even as late as 2004 trying to watch the Daily Show, like trying to watch John Stewart and stuff. And you had to go to like,

what was that real player and all that kind of bullshit to like watch clips of TV shows and stuff? Sure. There was no regular streaming. There was no YouTube. 2001 September. I'm in a software company with the Maves International Software in Thornhill.

And I learned a plane is hit because Walter came in and said a plane is hit the World Trade Center. And they were taking the CNN feed, but City TV TV TV was streaming the CNN. Maybe it was C&4. And it was online in my browser, probably Firefox. Yeah. At that time. So, yeah, well, Nescape became Firefox. It's the same DNA.

Yeah. So I'm streaming video. very clearly, you know, in 2001 September. So I am in like an office. But it was effortless to stream this video. That's how I saw it off. Yeah. Well, you, in an office, it was not like home.

Home computing was not like that in 2001. Yes, it was. No, it wasn't. I had Rogers. I mean, you're wrong, Rob. I don't know where you were. But it depends what kind of computers you had in those days. Do you remember what Macs look like in 2001?

Well, I didn't have a Mac, but I had a PC clone. Maybe. Well, you had access to higher technology. Dell probably sold it to them. MDG. Dell. Yeah. I don't know. Anyways.

Yeah. I think you're thinking of 1990. Yeah. No. Yeah. 2001, no. Okay.

Well, most people were able to watch online. But I didn't own it. But I didn't own a TV and I was in rehearsal like until like 1 PM or something. And we were like sitting there with the radio playing. It's one p.m.

It's a mind blow you did the rehearsal. Well, there was very few people there. Like the cast didn't really show up. In New York having the rehearsal, even though the. the world trade centers, the one and two towers had collapsed. Because of a terrorist attack.

Well, we didn't know that at that time. We did. No, we didn't. I listened to the Howard's... You weren't watching the news. The news said it right away.

It was right away. And I listened back for fun, Z's. And not that it's fun, but for interest sake, I listened back to the Howard Stern show from that morning. Yeah. And he said,

Usama or something. Yeah. But he knew, because he had already done that first, he was already on the FBI's most wanted list as the greatest security threat was Osama bin Laden in Al-Qaeda, right? And there had been,

a World Trade Center bombing, which Biggie Smalls alludes to in a song. It was the truck and it didn't cause this kind of catastrophe, but they had done it fairly recently, 95 or something I can't remember. But absolutely, when the second plane hit within seconds, many a broadcaster and many a news person said, this is a coordinated attack. They knew at that point. And remember, there's another plane that's going to drop in the Pentagon. And there's another plane in Pennsylvania.

Yeah. There's a, I mean, there's a, Rob, would have bombed just saying? I don't know. No, no, no. I thought you were saying. There was a lot of speculation at that time because, at the time. because at that time... A plane hits the Pentagon.

Something did not hit the Pentagon. You can see photos from AP. Yes, you can. I can't do this. A plane did not hit the Pentagon. But anyways, that's a whole... Wait, wait, wait, get to talk about this amount. I've seen accredited photos of parts of an airplane

right by the Pentagon. And then I've seen a hole in the Pentagon. That hole that's not from... The hole that's not from a plane. But that's a whole other topic. So what's it from? I don't know. Missal.

H.W. Bush put a bomb there and had it go off, and they put parts of an airplane all And what about all the people on that plane who died and had funerals? Dead. And they were just murdered. It's a siops, man. Come on. They took the plane out of the air and they put it in.

They put it somewhere. There are hundreds of people who died. Yeah, no, I know. Well, not hundreds, actually. That plane, not that many. I think it's like 45. How many people died? How many people died?

How many people? What happened to the families of the people? No, I don't know. I don't know. Are just in on it or they're told the lie? No, no, no. But this conversation started with me not having a, having a television. and seeing the footage the first time in

Fahrenheit 9-11. Yes, right? That's the interesting. That was the first time that I'd seen that footage of like the news. Okay, but I am now going to go on. 64 people on the plane.

But I'm now going to move on with the final thought that it is another, a mind below that you don't think an airplane hit the Pentagon that day. Yeah, no, I don't think so. I'm not 100% convinced it is either. But if you go in, if you go into accredited photos, you'll see parts of...

You keep saying the word accredited. Because the credit means associated press. Yeah. Routers. Right. There are. photos you can trust. I'm not saying they're not real photos.

I'm just saying the anything that I'm not, I'm with Rob. I'm a little bit skeptical of the fact that we're turning into Joe Rogan here. It's just shocking to me. I'm a little bit. The, the move that that the air, that the, that the, that the pilot would have had to have made to make that plane land the way into that building the way it did is virtually

impossible. All I'm asking is what, what do you think made the hole? No, I don't know. I think. I think, I think, I think, I think, The plane did crash, right? A plane crashed somewhere. Yes.

Oh, and the one in Pennsylvania. No, and the one in the Pennsylvania one was shot down. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, that's where the song by Neil Young, Let's Roll comes from. Yeah, which bullshit. Because the guys got together and said, yeah, the people on the plane got together and said,

we're going to. We've really gone off the rail. So much for fucking monkeys here, right? The people on that plane already, they were able to make some phone calls, okay, I guess some fuck on. But they already knew that the World Trade Centers had collapsed.

I was going to, I was going to mention how weird that is. like the fact that you, you had technology at that time that could stream television and stuff. Yes. And when they talked about people making phone calls on planes

and I remember phone calls on planes in those days did not happen where the phone was still at the back seat of the plane. It had to get low enough. Well, see, these are... The plane had to get low enough for that to work, I think.

Well, we don't really know. So there's a lot of confusion and mysteries. Okay, we got to get off the concerns. Yeah. You sound a little Trumpy there. Well, we don't really know. No, I know. Yeah, yeah.

But we have recorded calls from people on the plane. We do. That's right. But it was weird because of the fact that the technology did not, like our cell phones were pretty shitty in those days.

We didn't have, it was not iPhone era technology. It was like flip phone technology. The, the iPod was introduced in 2001. And also Windows XP started in 2000. It's possible that Windows was more advanced as far as streaming technology.

Windows 95 was the big advancement in Windows land. Okay. So I was stormed me up by the Rolling Stones. Oh yeah. I was a big, but okay, 3.1, I had a computer 3.9. I was still a Mac guy, and Max were not as mainstream in 2001 as they have become, of course. No, no.

Because they were still more used for music production purposes and stuff. Yeah. And, I mean, I definitely... Max didn't have the internet on it. No, I had the internet, but I didn't have any streaming services. Absolutely not. But you had an internet access. You would have websites.

And people stream stuff on websites is what we're saying. You're right. There was no streaming service. But you could go to CNN.com and watch CNN clips. Maybe. No, no, absolutely.

100% in 2001. I could watch CP24. Yeah. On my, in my web browser. Could you? You know, I did.

Honestly. I did it. I guarantee you, if we took a time machine back to 2001 and we had your Mac in front of us, we could watch at the very least, go to CNN.com. We could go to askjeeves.com.

Oh my God, I remember asked Jeeves. I knew. Google was actually already a thing by this point. Right. And you could watch these clips. I'm, telling you you could have.

I didn't see them. That's fine. I believe you. That I believe you. We'll have to, this is a whole big thing. Yeah, yeah. We're going to get your final monkey jam.

And this is actually a monkey jam, but this is the one you chose because Bob took. This was my follow up last night. Oh, thank you. Yeah, yeah. No. Oh, nice. Do you know it?

Of course. Morgan knew it too. Yeah. Tones and I. Tones and I. Tones and I. Bye. And now I beg to see you dance.

Just one more day. Dance for me. Dance for me. Oh. I never saw a people. She says monkey finally, right? Yeah. Well, it's called dance.

Just like a monkey. There shows. Yeah. And it's funny because for the longest time, I didn't know what the song was. So my wife and I, when we would do our summer schools, our summer camp with the kids,

and we have a game we play called sit and sing where the kids have to, like, sing a song and all the kids have to guess what it is. Okay. And they would do this song for the longest time. Huge with the kids for a lot. And we were like, what's dance monkey? Never heard of it.

And finally, I like listen to the song because it came out in 2019. Don't tonight. I had no idea. So that, here, wait. Can you turn that down for one sec? This was what I used to do. At sit and sing, I would do this. And within seconds, kids would be like, dance monkey.

I would. Just like that. Just like that. One chord. So this was my monkey song. Even though then I heard the lyrics and I was like, dance with me, dance with me. Sounds like dance.

monkey, but she does say monkey. Well, the title's Dance Monkey, so it would have been an appropriate way better than your last choice. Better than my monkey see monkey do. I'm so distracted by the 9-11 conspiracy theory. We'll do a whole episode. Let's do it. I know. I'm afraid to go in the live stream and find out what's going on over there.

Okay. So, we're going to do a whole episode on what really happened on 9-11. We're going to debunk and break down with our, you know, our expert opinions based on other people's things that we've seen. Based on the things we think we've seen. Tate McCrae covers this song.

She does? Canada Cemp says so. You might have to Google it. She, uh, so Tones and I, um, she's, uh, she's a, she's a performer. Yeah. And she's, uh, on a song right now with David Geta. And, um, uh, Teddy swims. Oh, no way.

Yeah, we've got gone, gone, gone. Oh, wow. Yeah. She's got an interesting voice. Oh, very interesting voice. Sometimes it sounds like a comic, uh, cartoon character. Yeah, totally. And almost childlike at times.

That's why the kids love it. Exactly. And, no, dancing monkeys fun. Oregon does love the song. And KidsBop does it as well. And the KidsBop version exactly the same. It sounds like it's no different. Yeah.

Just catching up on the live stream here. And so Tobias is saying at work, he was streaming CP24 in the late 90s. So a lot of us were doing that. Lucky, lucky, lucky bastards. You had dial up in New York, I think. I did. 2001 September. Well, we still had dial up too, but like 488 would have been?

I know, but I got to say by 2001, only really. Poor people had dial-up. No, it was totally dial-up. You're right. It wasn't totally. No. Like, like pick up your phone. When do you think Napster was at its, was, was, was, was, well, 99.

Yeah. So how do you think we were downloading. But I didn't do any of that shit? You're like, nobody. You were, you kids. I was downloading with my cable access with Rogers, okay? Not dial up. No, I know.

So that's, no, I'm not even cutting edge. I'm telling you, I'm not. I'm not an early adapter on these things. It's actually not. Look at my phone right now. It's true. I'm not a day. I'm a little.

I'm a little embarrassed when you pull your phone out. It's like, really? It's a palm pilot. He's a little poor. It's a Palm pilot. Really? No.

Yeah. No, but I definitely did not have. I remember hearing about Napster, but I was like, I don't know what that is. I didn't have it. That's a bigger mind blow than him. That's a bigger.

Think about it. Napster. Yeah, yeah. Where Bob and I were getting a lot of songs. You kids. I was a lime wire guy myself. Same spirit, right? I remember here was the bear share.

Was there a bear share? Bear shares as well. Yeah. Lime wire was the one. So Napster got a lot of the heat, but there were a lot of these, right? These P2P, these appear-to-peer, right? So, but we were downloading these MP3 files. Yeah.

With high-speed internet, for the time, high-speed. You could do a song and like, well, fast now. But we weren't. Like, we weren't. All my friends and none of us were rich. Yeah, yeah. We all had whatever the bell equivalent was. I can't remember.

And high-speed internet from Rogers. Amazing. We weren't dial-up anymore in 2001. But you guys, you're so lucky. Are you telling me when 9-11 happened, you had dial-up in your home? not even here to criticize you. I didn't have a mobile phone in 2001. What was the option in 2001 besides dial-up?

Well, cable and DSL? Yeah. Maybe I had cable. The phone one was called DSL. Yeah. And then the cable one was the cable. Yeah. I don't remember.

I had one of them. But maybe that's why I also feel like my, I didn't stream any sort of video stuff. So DSL and cable, thank you, Tobias Von. Yeah, there you go. They start rolling this out in 95. Okay, that's really early. Because I'm at UFT.

Yeah. I had to go to the library. 8 U of T. But my wife and I, who lived at 30 Charles Street West at the time, did get dial-up internet in 1996. Yeah, cool.

In 2000 to 2004, ADSL, like, so, like, and that was fast, nine times faster than a 56K modem, which I never, I went from 48-8,

I remember having a 48-8 modem. Isn't that funny? Oh, it's called at home. Thank you for reminding me, Dan, Denj. I was like 40,

I can't remember now, 40 bucks or something at time. Yeah. Rogers, I would pay the invoice. It was called Rogers at home. Yeah, that's right. And it was through the cable. Right.

And then, And then Bell came through and put fiber optic through almost all of Toronto. Well, that's, yeah, that's much later, though. Not that much longer, though. I think so. I do remember in those days, as the technology was evolving, noticing differences between Canadian technology and American technology. And it's possible that the Canadian technology was more advanced as well.

Only because the market was controlled by the CRTC heavier than the FCC controlled thing or industry, Canada, depending on where you were. But yeah, you're absolutely right there as a chance. Now, the problem is where we also as Canadians are getting who. pooped price-wise. You are now. We have been all along. We've always been hooped.

We've been getting hooped by price-wise. As long as I've lived in New York and I've noticed the difference in how you're charged here and stuff. I'm like, the monopoly is struin. It's stupid. So badly. Agreed.

By the way, the branding for the bell offering was simpatico. Yeah, I remember Spatio. Rogers at home and Bell Sympaity. I still have a Sympatco email address somewhere. I think so. Yeah.

I know people of that are BellNet. Yep. I remember Sympatico as well. Yeah, it was Sympatico. You're right. Because 2001 was the year that I moved to New York. I moved to New York in August 2001. Wow.

So I had an apartment in Toronto, packed it up. You should have been a suspect. Wow. That hurts. That was that one says a little offside, man. I felt like it was an automatic New Yorker like on that day. Yeah, you become one because you were there. Because we were here for the reason that I didn't see the footage.

I like saw the thing with my own eyes. I like lived there. I lived through it. I saw the fucking people walking with dust on their shoes. With the dust all over. You ran away from it all. You know what I mean? Which is why it's more mind-blowing to me that you didn't seek any coverage of

this. Why would I need to? Because I would have been obsessed with it even more than I already was. Just human curiosity, don't you want to see see the tower come down? Nope. Why would I want to see that? Why do I need to see that? Why do you want to see anything that the whole world is shocked by?

I didn't know that the whole world. Although my parents were living in Germany at that time, they did, they called to make sure that I was okay. And I did have to stand in line at a pay phone because I didn't have a cell phone at that time either. So I had to stand in line to call them to say, I'm okay. Like, you know, I was getting calls from people in Canada and stuff. Like, have you ever seen

the Challenger blow up? I watched on TV when it happened. Yeah, but have you, did you see it subsequently? Yeah. Like, same thing. Like, it's not that you get off on it or you're happy to see it,

but the whole world is sharing in this tragedy. Well, what I remember. Unlike, say, no, there's no footage. There's one cameraman, a French documentary filmmaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's only one shot of the first plane hitting. That's right.

But, right. Was that the overhead shot? He's with, he's following the guys in the ladder. Right. That's right. That's 100% right. So, but the actual collapse was live on TV.

So my feeling, as long as I've, since I've lived in New York for 25 years in those early days, my feeling was the whole world saw this thing that I didn't see. And the whole world is way more affected by it than I was affected by it because I was right there. It was like an attack in my back year. It's not, though. You're all way more affected by it than I was, and I saw the thing with my own eyes. And I felt, I smelled that fucking smoke for months and months and months. There was a, there was a triggering to see it?

Like, would it be triggering for you? Yeah, absolutely. So you'd be more affected by it. I was more affected by it. Which is why when I saw it in the film for the first time, I bawled my eyes. It affects the question. Why did you go see Fahrenheit 9-11? Because I wanted to know.

At that point, I was fucking curious about it. Because by that time, it had been developing. Nobody stopped talking about it, right? What a complex person is from? It was a pretext for bullshit war. The fucking Americans. You know, we know the story. We know weapons of mass destruction.

We know all about this. We know all that. So when that film came out, and I was listening to Michael, more, and I was listening to the conspiracies, the people who were talking about. Loose change. Remember the loose change film? Absolutely. It fucked up my brother.

Oh, yeah? My middle brother. He became a bit of a tinfoil hat. Prusian, if you know. Loose change was a good documentary at the time. Absolutely. Yeah, but it's been debunked. Go look at the scientific.

But you learn to take all the information that you acquire, all the information that you acquire in your life you take with a grain of salt, and you somewhere in the middle of all the information you get is the truth. For my money, the show. shocking thing here. Never mind opinions about it. The fact that you avoided seeing it, and I'm not on purpose, the fact that you avoided seeing that footage, because it was everywhere.

For weeks and months, like months, months. And the fact that you never saw is, is, uh, not that you didn't seek it out. I understand that. But the fact that you avoided it somehow is remarkable. It is, I don't know how. Well, how many months after was that film come out? It was a long time after. Was it a year later or so? No, I think, I think, I think, I think,

Because there's a lot in that film. It goes into a lot more than just 9-11. Yeah. It took a while for that to come out. But that was definitely the first time I saw it. Okay, Bob's going to tell us when that movie came out. Fairnardine 9-11, which I saw in the theaters, by the- I did too.

Of course. Yeah, you had to go to the theater in those days. I mean, unless you wait for the DVD, it all comes back to burn. Because in Iraq, the soldiers were blasting that. It came out in 0-4. Oh, four. Yeah, yeah. Three years later.

So, yeah. So, yeah, I was able to avoid it until 0-4. It's crazy. Literally, if, like, I avoided, I never watched CNN. Why would I want to watch CNN? Like, I didn't want to know about the news. I didn't pay attention to the news in those days. I didn't really care.

I do hate, I do hate going into a restaurant and they have CP24 on. Waiting at the airport. Fucking drives me nuts. I hate, if you have CP24 on your restaurant, I'm out. Yeah. Sorry. That's a lot of restaurants.

You've just kicked out. I know. I hate it. It's like when you wait in an airport and they have the news as well. They always have that. It's too much. So, so I was at a point in my life at that point that point that I had no interest in trying to pursue why I need to know this information.

It's not affecting me. It's going to affect me by me like caring too much about something I can't control. But I did start paying attention to the politics of the country because I was one of the few people like, I mean,

we had just started Mama Mia at the time. So there was already starting to see splits in the American psyche of the people who are like, this is bullshit. Or the other people who were saying, we need to go and get revenge and we're going to go get revenge on,

we don't even know if they're responsible. We need to revenge. We knew they weren't responsible. We did know that. But there were people, as you know. That's why the doc is so great because HW, it was personal. Yeah, right. Exactly.

So this is why you know to this day what's happening in America. That's when the split began, I believe, in a lot of the things that we are facing now 25 years later. It's an evolutionary thing that's happened to people. Yeah, well, 9-11 and then COVID. Like, to me, these are the two things that really polarized. It really, yeah. All right. So, speaking of monkeys.

All right, yeah. Also, the first thing that is this isn't really. a song, but it's a series of music. And I'll tell you about it. I gave you the two MP3s. Play the first one first, and we'll. I'll go into the music business. The old master's.

You're funny. Beethoven. Brams. Bat. Brams. Okay. Brams. Lium.

Okay. Muck. Okay, monks. Stop collecting. So, this is from 1951. It's called hurdy-gurdy hair. And it is, yeah, so this is like an organ grinder. But it opens with Bugs Bunny, of course.

There you go. So that's the first part of it. There's two parts. It's a five and a half minute. One of those Warner Brothers shorts, Looney Tunes. And when I thought about monkeys and signed music, this is what came to my head. Is that little monkey going around getting?

And then there's a big gorilla that escapes. I remember that. And here, listen, what, how he's music calms the savage beast at the end. This music calms the savage beast. It sure loves music. That gives me an idea. So now he's got the original monkey and the big ape that escapes. I need to watch this.

I sure hope Petrillo doesn't hear about this. Now, who's Petrillo? I didn't even look that up. I feel like Gilbert Godfrey could explain this to us. I think this is an old... I bet it's a politician. Yeah, for sure. It feels, the name sounds familiar.

It's not Andy Petrillo. No, I knew you were going to say that. Yeah, so honestly, when I thought about monkeys and then I thought about the act of this, this was like a New York City thing, I think, where people would actually like set up a herdy-gurdy or an organ grinder. And I was, honestly, my first thought was, I tried to find the music that was in those organ grinders.

And I couldn't really find anything. Also, great restaurant on the Esplanon. Yes. A very classic Toronto restaurant. That's where I had my first float. I'd never had a float in my life. I had a mother's pizzeria. There you go, nice.

Who does take some pop and throw some ice cream in it? Come on. How can you go wrong with that? So yeah, that's your float. I don't know if that's a monkey jam, but that's my monkey music that it's a monkey dancing around. Your jams or your jams. Still better than Rob Pruss's second side.

Monkey see monkey do? Come on now. It's monkey see monkey do. It's one lyric in a Terence Trajanjave. I know. So thank you, Bob Thank you for sharing I remember that

I can picture the monkey and then the grill I can send you the link Did the monkey have a cigar in its mouth? Yes, at one point He puts a cigar at its mouth Because that was the thing It was the monkey had the cigar

Yeah And then the organ blows it up Yes so he puts a cigar in its mouth And it blows up And he puts a little He makes it, yeah, there's a whole thing I'll send you guys the link

It's very funny actually I love Looney Tunes Absolutely okay My final monkey jam Okay, so the brass monkey Brass monkey chunky brass monkey Brass monkey Here is a good chance

We talked about the faith album by George Michael And we talked about kick by in excess And we have these big big albums But license to ill was the very That's what this song is on, Brass Monkey. It is on Licensed to Ill.

And Licensed to Ill is the very first rap album that topped the Billboard 200 chart. 86, 86, 87? 86. Oh, 86, and this single comes out in 87, January 5th, to be precise. But can anybody in this group here name the, this is also,

so the first to top the charts, the Billboard 200 chart, but it is only the same. second rap album ever to be certified platinum. Who wants to take a stab at naming the first rap album to be certified platinum? This is the second.

There was one before this. Raising Hell. Raising Hell is correct. So, Run DMC's third studio album, Raising Hell is the first one. I just picked up a vinyl, original 1986 vinyl German pressing of it from a, yeah, from a guy who's doing, a old record label guy.

Raising Hell. Raising Hell. And it's, I I had that on cassette. It's so good. It's funny to be a little white kid at 10 years old going, I'm proud to be black, y'all, and that's a fact, y'all. My Adidas. I put it on. I haven't listened to it since I was a kid.

The full album, I still know every song. I am going to listen to that on my drive home show. Raising Hell. I like to. In this album here, I'll just say, what a big album this was for young Mike. Licensed to ill, a lot of big hits came off this one. Brass Monkey Bean won. Brass Monkey Girls, Fight for Your Right.

All great songs off that. Yeah, and it went deep. I think Girls was the seventh single to come off of Lise's to Hill. Yeah. Wow. That's crazy. The first single, which I would have got this wrong if you would quiz me on it. But the first single from License to Ill was,

hold it now, hit it. Okay. Yeah, but I don't think that got any airplane in Canada or very little. And the second one, and I remember my friend Chris Lamanski got in big trouble by Mr. Iwasco because he was singing this in whatever we were in grade seven, I guess. And this was Paul Revere. Yes. Paul Revere was the second.

And the third, which I don't even remember this being a single, was the new style, was the third. And it wasn't until single number four that you got the huge hit from license to ill. And it's a parentheses jam. You got to fight for your right. You got to fight for your right to party. Which part was in...

You got to fight for your right? No, you got to fight. For your right. There's two parentheses in here. You gotta is in parentheses. Fight for your right is against the name. And then the next two parties in parentheses. It's a double parenthesis.

And then grass, go ahead. Will you say something? quadruple percentage. I think we must have talked about it on the parentheses

jam's episode. But Brass Monkey was the fifth single and then no sleep till Brooklyn. Oh yeah.

And then girls. Wow. Seven singles from licensed to ill. So that sample you hear is from a

song called Bring it here and I'm just going to play since I guess we're in the closing stretch here but I'm going to

play a bit of it. That's a bit of a sample. I want to hear the vocals on this though oh yeah wow the band is called wild sugar wild sugar

this is called wild sugar this is called wild sugar this song is called bring it here that bassline is fucking naughty yeah wild sugar baby

bring it here came out in 1981 that's cool I was so fucking distracted by the 9-11 chatter that I was playing in the background, here comes your man by the Pixies. I wanted Rob to tell me what he

thought of the song. I like that song. That was the next single from Doolittle. Was it? It was cool too. That came out after Monkey Gone to Heaven. And I wanted to know, what do you think of? Here Comes Your Man. Because I think it's a fucking great single. It's really cool. There's a really good audio book from the history of the Beastie Boys. It's

like they put out a visual... Apple TV had a read. And I have the book, too. The Apple TV series is good. The book is good. So they made an audiobook based on the book. And it's so interesting. because they have different people narrating and telling the story and then they have little musical excerpts and stuff and when they talk about like when they went to get their first drum machine

down in Brooklyn and like Rick Rubin talks about working with them and when he's in college and stuff it's amazing so interesting that's good so that messing around by vanilla sugar or whatever the hell they were called Wild Sugar, sorry Wild sugar the label is the sound of Brooklyn

TSOB And, like, if you have it on vinyl, it's like worth 45 to 100 bucks. Like, it's, what a great little tune. And by the way, that drum machine, I think you're talking about the Roland T.R. 808. I am talking about it. That was an important part of our spoon song, Novaheart. Well, the 808 were massive. We were the first band in Canada to use the 808.

Nice. And you programmed it? No, our producer program. You producer programmed it? Yeah. So Monkey Wrench gets Hansen. Yeah. A few songs, Guy Hansen.

Monkey wrench for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wasn't feeling food fighters lately. I don't know. They're fine. Yeah, I love food fighters. There's a lot of their music that I love, but I'm like, man, whatever. Kind of sick of food fighters.

But this is the Richard Cheese cover of Brassie Monkey. And this is from, I like the name of this album, actually. The album is called Apertief for Destruction. He's fun. In his listening world. There's a whole world of covers out there now. And on Spotify, you can find chill covers of everything. of everything.

It's like finding heavy versions. Yeah. Same thing. Sleepy versions. Yeah. Okay. And I have a song.

We're going to close out with a song I pulled for Rob Pruse. So I knew you guys were going to be inducted into the FOTM Hall of Fame. Congratulations again. My goodness,

it's all been lost in the whole shuffle of everything. I'm so shook. I don't know what it is. The lack of internet connection, the lack of seeing the footage, the I don't believe a plane hit the Pentagon.

Oh, that's actually true. But all, it's not actually say it like it's a fact. If you talk to the people, you should trust the experts and the I don't trust anybody don't say it like it's fact

no I know you believe that to be true but that doesn't make it a fact no it's making sure you know that I worry about but I do believe it to be true yes that is that is a fact

you believe it to be true shout out to poison there's something to believe in here okay give me something to believe in so I pulled a song for Rob on the way out here for Rob Pruse see him on May 21st at the Elmo

We're going to talk about 9-11 for 90 minutes. Same song. We're listening to the same song. No, we're not. Okay. Hang in there. Oh. Oh, it's a mashup.

It's from DJ Hero. Really? Yeah, it's a mashup. It's Queen. It's Queen. You don't recognize that sample? Are you ready? It's another one likes to dust.

Yeah, right. It's nice. This is good. Yeah. I didn't recognize that it's Freddie now. It's like a video game series, DJ, Yeah, DJ Hero.

Seriously. Yeah. This is from the sound prank. Yeah, it's cool. I love mashups like this. Well, if I get some queen in the mix, then you got Proustic. Thank you. This is how you deliver Beastie Boys to Rob Prince. I love the BC Boys. That's good. That's really cool.

That's good. That's a good mashup. I have a playlist from all the samples they use on Paul's Boutique. It's like eight hours long or something. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah. talking about that. Yeah, all the samples. Yeah, they have the full songs for them. It's so neat to hear all the songs they use. DJ Hero.

DJ Hero. It's like, um... It's like a guitar hero. Yeah, it's like a guitar hero. It's DJ Hero. Yeah, I love it. In that franchise. So how was this monkey's jam episode? I was going to be... How did you become German? Now we died? Yes. Now we did. Oh, touch my monkey. That's why I did it. There you go. Make sure you're paying it.

Oh, you just take my... Touch my monkey. Who's picking the next topic? It's you, right, Rob Bruce? Is it me? This is 50th birthday. Oh, right. Metal. And then I did this one. Monkey.

Yeah. Metal, monkey. Metal monkey. Can we do novelty jams? Have we done novelty jams? I don't think we have. First of all, you've got to be more confident. You tell us.

Yeah. We're going to do novelty jams. I tried just to like search and see if we had done that. Tyler on our WhatsApp has recently talked. We had some discussion about like novelty songs and there was a song we mentioned from the guest who and whether it was a novelty song. For the Wolfman. Yeah. It made me think about novelty songs.

And it could be what. whatever you think of it as a novelty song. All right. For whatever that means you. You're in charge. We don't have veto power. No, no, no. Novelty songs.

As members of the Hall of Fame, we now have power. I've got the power. Novelty jams. It's getting. It's getting. It's getting kind of heavy. Like the crack of the whip, a snap attack front to back in this thing called rap.

Lyrical, miracle, something. They don't go into the lyrical miracle whip. Just like butter. My rhymes are legit. Like butter. It's like butter. Another Mike Myers It's like butter

Oh yeah That's his old What's her name? Coffee talk Yeah Coffee talk Jeez you guys are amazing Okay

So thank you for visiting Amazing again That's always fun So you didn't want to do The Irish ditties for March She said fuck that We're gonna do some Novelty gems

I like that We've done Have we done? I know I have I think we have Let's do novelties You could do Irish novelties There's probably lots of those

Yeah Well like Wasn't that a party Yeah that'd be a novelty The rovers Yeah Oh, I know what. Oh, I know.

I have one for sure already. It'll be March. You're right. In like a line. I'm good at that. This is February. I know March is coming up next. And I know there are 28 days.

Oh, and I'm going to see you before our next toast as well. We're doing our Nash to Slash. Oh, yeah. You'll tell the people that. So the Nash to Slash film is having a screening on March 13th. Is it called the Rock and Docs Festival? Is that what it is? I don't know.

But it's going to be played on March 13th. And you are scheduling. a chat with the director of the film. And is Colin coming as well? I can't remember who... Colin's in the basement? A lot of people are in this episode. Tim.

Friendly Rich is going to be a part of it. Friendly Rich. There's a Nash's last tribute album coming out that Friendly Rich has organized. And then I did the music for the film. So I think that we're all going to be gathering either virtually or in the basement to talk about it with you.

Can we? Gather ye rosebuds while ye may. Okay. So it is Kevin. A.N. Kevin Byrne. Right. Kevin, Tim, Colin, all in the basement with me.

That's going to be a crowded room. And then you're going to come on with Rich via Zoom, and we're going to talk Nash to slash. Nice. And that's a week before the film. And I'm going to be here. March 6th, 2 p.m. The film is on March 13.

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