Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Movie Music: Toronto Mike'd #684

Episode Date: July 10, 2020

This Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out songs written for a movie with Stu Stone and Cam Gordon....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's time now for Pandemic Fridays, starring Toronto Mike, Stu Stone, and Cam Gordon. Who's laughing over there? Who's laughing over there? Welcome to episode 684 of Toronto Mic'd, a weekly podcast about anything and everything. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, a fiercely independent craft brewery who believes in supporting communities, good times, and brewing amazing beer. Palma Pasta.
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Starting point is 00:01:19 Text Toronto Mike to 59559. And we welcome back our friends from Pumpkins After Dark. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me on this Pandemic Friday is Stu Stone and Cam Gordon. Hello. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Stu Stone, let's open up right away. Hello. Hello. Stu Stone, let's open up right away. How are you doing? My condolences, my friend. Thanks, man. It's definitely been a tough stretch here for me, personally. But listening to last week's show was uplifting. I did listen. Imagine that. I listened to an episode of your show. I'm shocked. And it was nice to hear Sammy filled in quite nicely, argumentative, Cam mispronouncing things. So it was really well put together.
Starting point is 00:02:22 You said some nice things. It was really well put together. You said some nice things, and I appreciate some of the love that I got from members of the Toronto Mic Universe. And, yeah, man, it's tough. It's definitely tough. And, obviously, having that documentary come out made things a little bit more complex because, you know, it just does. And anyway, sympathy to anyone else who's gone through similar circumstances, losing a parent, whether you have the best relationship with them or not, still losing somebody that you won't speak to or see again.
Starting point is 00:03:05 And it's tough. It's sad. So sorry to start off on a sad note. But on a happier note, it is Lieve Femke's 11th wedding anniversary. So not all is bad in the world. So on that note, congrats to Lieve Femke. I gave her a one-week suspension. She's allowed back in the Zoom.
Starting point is 00:03:26 But she's actually, I've decided we're banning her for life from being a judge. So that's a lifetime ban, and I don't think anyone's going to argue. Lieve Fumke can never judge again. That was two weeks ago. There was that great controversy. Yeah. Last week, though, I just realized. Real tragedy.
Starting point is 00:03:42 By the way, I had a flawless, spotless record going into that. And, you know, I feel like Trump. You know, one of his... When he went to the Supreme Court, even his boys turned against him. This is what's happened to me. Where were the Brett Kavanaugh to your
Starting point is 00:03:59 Donald Trump? Yeah, it's really good to have you back, Stu, and I'm glad you're back in the fold. And glad you got to listen last week. I thought Sammy did a great job. And Mike, hopefully you clipped some of those. He shot pretty hard on some of his fellow CanCon talents.
Starting point is 00:04:18 Some good soundbites there. Sammy not pulling any punches. I thought his comments about Chantal Krabiacek, his fellow Winnipegger. Is that what peoplerabiacek, his fellow Winnipegger, is that what people from Winnipegger are called? Winnipegger? Yeah, I think so. We're especially revealing of his feelings there.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Peggies, they're called. Yeah, Peggers. I like the vibe of that recording, not because Stu was missing. I did miss Stu immensely, but because we did it Friday night and I did it outside and there was something about hearing
Starting point is 00:04:49 the jams with a cold beer in a clear night sky. Something about that is just like, it's just magic. Sounds like lyrics to a Canadian jam. Yeah, I think the hit wrote about that uh in violet light
Starting point is 00:05:07 i think uh tragically hip but uh stew if somebody listening to us right now did not listen to last friday's episode and that's possible because once they heard the rumor that stew wasn't on the pandemic friday episode maybe they bailed on it they said i'm not doing this but uh although people should have listened because sammy, shout out to Sammy Cohn, who did a fantastic job. Like you said, he did a great job last week. But Stu, if somebody did not hear last Friday's episode, they'll wonder why the sad beginning here.
Starting point is 00:05:37 But maybe we should just state that your father passed away between the last time you were on Pandemic Friday episode and then the time we were going to record last Friday. You lost your father passed away between the last time you were on pandemic Friday episode. And then the time we were going to record last Friday, you lost your father. Yeah. And I, you know, I blame the show because you, you promoted Jack of all trades so often and the jinx continues of the Toronto Mike show. No. Yeah um yeah man that's what happened
Starting point is 00:06:07 okay i got a couple of questions though and i i'm uh i did uh yeah he he he passed away and uh yeah i don't know what to say really other than that i mean my dad and i had a very uh My dad and I had a very mixed bag relationship. And a lot of it was documented in our film. You know, I was, you know, it's like I said, it's complicated. Not everybody has a storybook, sort of Danny Tanner and his kids relationships. Mr. Brady and his kids type of relationship. Some people have more of a guy from the wrestler and his kid uh i was gonna say or a manny tanner i don't remember his there was one episode like alter ego which was
Starting point is 00:06:53 sort of curmudgeonly danny tanner sure sure sure or jesse katsopoulos i guess he had a sort of a beef with his dad, I think in one episode. I feel like that was a bit of a trope. The fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I will tell you this though, just to add some sort of interesting perspective is that during this pandemic, having a funeral is like not a fun thing. You know, like having him pass away during a pandemic, having a funeral is like not a fun thing, you know, like, uh, having him pass away during a pandemic, you know, the funeral was a very small thing. Not that it would have been this big to do, but it was a very small kind of gathering. And, uh, you know, typically there's
Starting point is 00:07:37 like a Shiva in the Jewish community. Um, we order from food vendors and we have a good shiva minus the food vendors part. Yeah, I caught that. I've been reading a blog too. But no, we, you know, for seven days, you sort of, you know, you have family and loved ones come by and sort of keep you distracted. And they sort of, you have visiting during the day and the evening. And that didn't happen in the traditional sense because nobody's going anywhere. And so, yeah, made it even more kind of tricky, sort of just sort of a weed through feelings and sentiments. couch so to speak and this is my first sort of uh attempt at doing something outside of uh sitting around sort of moping and uh you know you and um uh ms famka and of course my old buddy cam uh good motivation for me to peel myself out of bed this morning and and come join you guys to
Starting point is 00:08:41 kick out some jams so again thank, thank you for your thoughts. And, um, as far as our documentary goes, Jack of all trades, I don't, I think like there's, it won't be on Netflix after this month or maybe after this week. I don't know. So now we're going to call to action.
Starting point is 00:08:59 If you, if you are an FOTM and you have not yet, and you have Netflix and you've not yet seen Jack of all trades, uh, it sounds like you should do it tonight. Well, this will probably probably by next Friday, You are an FOTM and you have not yet, and you have Netflix, and you've not yet seen Jack of All Trades. It sounds like you should do it tonight. Well, by next Friday, it probably won't be on Netflix anymore. Not to say that it won't be available to watch, but just not as easily if you aren't a Netflix subscriber. And watching it now, knowing that the Jack from Jack of All Trades
Starting point is 00:09:23 is no longer with us, it's a different experience, I think. It's almost like you have this knowledge of like this epilogue. And Stu, I have one last question on this topic, and then we're going to kick out some fun jams. And I'm so glad you're back. But for most of us, including me, what we know about your relationship with your dad
Starting point is 00:09:44 ends when that movie Jack of All Trades ends. Like this is what we know about your relationship with your dad ends when that movie Jack of all trades ends. Like this is what we know. And since that wrapped up years ago, did any, I'm just, I'm just curious. Cause I have, I could, I could do a movie like that about my father. Okay. But I need to know, um, did relations between you and your father in these last few years, uh, improve or is there anything you're willing to share about what we we don't know because you know that that film was uh over a few years ago i mean i would say they improved in the sense that like we were there was a line of communication open between us you know i don't think it was used very often but uh you know no
Starting point is 00:10:26 there wasn't it wasn't like there was like this tearful reunion in the movie and then we were like best buddies after that i think there was some you know effort maybe made by both of us but not really um the next time i saw him uh after the next time i really spent time with him after that movie and interviewing him in the movie was in the hospital, you know, so it wasn't really, you know, it didn't, it didn't fix things, so to speak, but, you know, made us aware of each other's phone numbers. And, uh, I did get to spend some time with him, uh, more time with him this past year in 2020. I spent more, I saw him more times than I did in the last 27 years. Just unfortunately it was always in a hospital, but you know, there was,
Starting point is 00:11:12 the COVID stuff also was interfered with him and his ability to sort of maybe live. I don't know. I mean, like he went to the hospital for a major surgery in Like he went to the hospital for a major surgery in January. And, you know, he wasn't able to get in, you know, he wasn't doing so well after the surgery. And he went to try to go back to the hospital and they sort of sent him home. They were like, we can't take you in. There's COVID patients and we're not accepting, you know, that type of thing. And he ended up finding treatment elsewhere, which turned out to be sort of a detriment to his recovery.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Cause he ended up getting just, you know, pain medication instead of like medicine. And, uh, you know, he's just never got stronger. So I did get to spend some time with him. Um, it was really sad spend some time with him. It was really sad to just sit with him and kind of knowing what the outcome most likely was going to be. And, you know, I don't think he wanted to go. But, you know, what are you going to do? There's some other, I have other siblings that he had other kids from a second relationship. And two of those kids came into town to see him also.
Starting point is 00:12:29 They drove in from Western Canada, listening to The Watchman, I'm sure, on the drive in. And, you know, I got to see them. There's like a 20 year difference between me and them. So it's just to see that, you know, there's other, these kids that I, I, I know them, but I don't really know them. And to see them hurting and stuff, it hurt just, I was more hurt for them in a lot of ways because they were younger and closer to the situation maybe than I had been already 20 years removed from the guy.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But yeah, I don't know. Listen, the whole thing is just really super confusing. And I think, like I said, like in most, most typically people don't have like a documentary about them and their dad that they can like reference. And I think that sort of complicated things for me personally, because I had made a decision in my life to sort of put that story out there. And so now everybody kind of knows that story. So, and well, not everybody, but you know, the people who have watched the movie know the story and all I've talked about for the last two years is him. You know, everybody wants to talk about my dad and talk about the movie and talk about my dad. And so he sort of became this bigger fixture in my life again, over the last the last couple years just because of this movie and i don't know if i regret it or don't regret it but it definitely
Starting point is 00:13:50 certainly made things harder i mean if i me and him didn't reconnect at all maybe it would be well i know it would be a different scenario i'd get a call oh your dad passed away and it would be sad and i would you know this just hit a little harder because I was, he was, I sort of, he was back in my life to a degree. So I'll miss him for sure. And you know, the legacy of sluggers and baseball cards and all that sort of stuff. And I know Cam spent time with him, limited time, but Cam spent time with him. He used to call into our,
Starting point is 00:14:23 when Cam and I had our own cable-access sports show rivaling that. Was he the bug? The Hornet. The Hornet. He would call into the show as the Hornet and he would sort of make fun of our sports knowledge and make his football picks for the week. We also gave away baby jesse's bag yes that's like one of the yeah and now baby jesse's 27 years old yeah so that bag is still probably somewhere in like north york uh so you know i mean he was a lot of fun when he was a lot of fun he's like one of
Starting point is 00:15:03 those guys that when you had him at his best, it was a really, really great experience. Sadly, there wasn't more of that. You know, just sort of, you know, they can't all be great. Not everything in life is great. And I think 2020 has definitely proven that, not just with the loss of my dad, obviously, but just look around, talk to people.
Starting point is 00:15:23 You'll see a lot of people are hurting. A lot of people are, you know, it's eyeopening. I mean, obviously there's a pandemic going on first and foremost, and that's fucking brutal. Then you have all this racism and the killing of George Floyd sparks, all this new sort of conversation that is healthy and needed, but also it's hurts. It hurts to see people hurting. And then financially, you know, the economy financially, you know, the
Starting point is 00:15:45 economy is, you know, I think we're pretty lucky to be Canadian at this point. Seriously, like you could say what you want about leadership, but I think that, you know, between the prime minister and the premier, somebody's done something right at most turns during this navigation. And I think we've been really lucky that we're not exploding with cases in our economy. We have a government that gives you, you know, serve protection if you need it. And I think that's unbelievable. A lot of friends that I know that are living south of the border got like a $1,200 check and a pat on the ass. And they're struggling. They don't know how they're going to pay their rent they don't have a job to go to and it's scary it's really really scary times and uh you know i feel for all of those people and i know there are americans that listen to
Starting point is 00:16:33 this show too so um you know western new york uh listen watching on wutv no i'm big in buffalo it's true yeah so you know the darien like uh tragically hit fans uh but uh you know i think that i feel for them my heart goes out to them too and i just you know it's easy to say to somebody who's down like oh don't worry things are going to get better um but usually they do right usually they do um i know miss famka knows that she's been in a relationship with her husband for 11 years they couldn't all be rosy here she is here she is uh uh with the battle scars to prove it that uh you know things can be can be good there are good things you know cam has a lovely daughter and he's got a nice relationship and he's got nice parents and i know mike, Mike, you have a whole crew of, you have a whole basketball team over there.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Stable. Yeah. And, you know, I think that having supportive family and friends is really important for everybody. You know, everybody has somebody to lean on in their life. And even if you don't think you do, you do. There is somebody. So you're not alone ever.
Starting point is 00:17:44 And I certainly didn't feel alone. And I felt a lot of love from you guys last week. And Cam sent me some personal messages as well. And thank you guys. And hopefully I will. I am feeling a bit foggy. Like I said, this is my first attempt to be like Stu. But I think I'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:18:04 And I mean, I know I'll be okay. It's just, uh, it's going to be tough. And I, and I really hope that, you know, 2020 is pretty much a tax write off at this point that, uh, 2021 has got to be good. You know, it's gotta be, how could it not be? You know, we're going to shake the stew out of you. That's our, that's our job on this pandemic. I'll just say the, I thought you said some very poignant things there, Stu. And I'm very happy to report here's a bit of inside baseball. Tomorrow night in Thornhill, myself and Stu Stone and some other greats from our high school days will be hanging out. I think that's still happening.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Stu is not at our friend Jason's house. I think that's still happening. Stu is not at our friend Jason's house. I think we'll be seeing appearances from the Big Rybowski, DJ Farbsy, other people you may have heard mentioned on Pandemic Friday. Personally, I'm looking forward to cracking a GLB in a backyard in Thornhill, socially distant, but with some good high school pals, including Stu Stone. Yeah, that'll be good. That'll be really good. You may see a photo or two of that surface on Twitter.com.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Up next, Edison Twins reunion on the horizon, maybe. Who knows? I get sad when I think of the Edison Twins reunion because Bob Segherini told me that he was really hoping Chorus would release the Edison Twins because he said he could take
Starting point is 00:19:23 that money and fix his teeth. And I think about that all the time. Like whenever I think, you know, whenever I get down about certain things, I think, you know, Bob's hoping this media conglomerate will release these Edison Twins episodes because it will give him some money
Starting point is 00:19:36 for writing the theme song that he could fix his teeth. So I don't know. Shout out to Bob Segurini. What's up with his teeth? I actually have bumped in. How do I describe this? His teeth need some professional help. They need some work. I think they just maybe, for whatever reason, I won't even speculate why, they've rotted away.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You think about your tough times, this and that, the economy, whatever, and then you go, at least I have my teeth. Count your blessings. I mean, literally, I have my teeth, right? Yeah. Count your blessings. I mean, literally, I have friends that haven't paid their rent in like three months that are now finding themselves like 10 grand behind. I can't imagine. It's scary. It's really, really scary. So thank you to the folks over at Garbage Day, forward slash Stu.
Starting point is 00:20:21 forward slash Stu. I just, okay, so, you know, you mentioned that tomorrow you're going to crack open a Great Lakes with some high school buddies. I understand Lieve Fumka is going to be there to cover this event, like an embedded journalist. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:34 So make sure she's got some beer. Shout out to Great Lakes. Great, great partners. On my birthday, I enjoyed a park beer. And this is apparently a bad, apparently they're going to crack down on this. i say come at me bro if i have if i'm enjoying a beer safely distanced from my friends in a park i think that's very much safer for me during a pandemic than sitting in a patio and i say come at me with those 300 tickets i would be the best 300 i ever spent
Starting point is 00:21:01 because i will fight it hard i almost want them to give me a ticket. But thank you. There is incriminating evidence on the internet of this. We didn't exactly try to hide it when we were hanging down at Ontario Place with the great MF. Public drunkenness. No, there's a big difference. I want to
Starting point is 00:21:20 just point out the big difference between public drunkenness and responsibly enjoying a cold Great Lakes can in a public park. But yeah, we were very responsible. And we were on bikes too. We weren't driving or anything. It was very responsible. So shout out to Great Lakes. Shout out to Palma Pasta. We got to get some Pandemic Friday decals and stickers and just start plastering them over the city. Now that we have that nice logo I put together, I can do that at stickeru.com. Everybody should support stickeru.com.
Starting point is 00:21:49 They're a great local company. You mentioned Garbage Day, Stu. I just had on Toronto Mike. Yeah, I saw that. Great conversation. There's more than meets the eye when it comes to Garbage Day. So don't skip that because you think it's going to be like a 45-minute ad. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:07 We kick out trash jams. I feel like I borrowed a little bit of Pandemic Friday there and played some Alice Cooper, for example, and some weird Al Yankovic. So enjoy that. While I'm talking about Toronto Mike, I know I'm doing a little ramble here before we set the stage here.
Starting point is 00:22:23 There were some great episodes this week i know i'm patting myself on the back here but kim mitchell was on the show the legend what what a mensch i just say yeah it's really interesting because like going into it like i was the kim mitchell guy in this of this crew and people you know people have mixed feelings about this guy's polarizing obviously his radio career led people to have opinions one way or another about him. But it sounds like after you met with him that everybody loves him now. So this is really big for Kim Mitchell and his brand to come on Toronto Mike and get some love. Was he polarizing? I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I think there was people that thought he was a little much or didn't know. I don't know. I just remember there not being a coin flip. Like, you know, he was outspoken, let's just say. And this was really good for him to come on Toronto Mike and get some love and people see what a great guy he is. He tells a great Gord Downie story. He tells a fantastic Neil Peart story. So you get some good Rush content.
Starting point is 00:23:20 You get some tragically hip content. Really good stories all around. He played live. But by the way, note to self, playing live via Zoom doesn't work. Zoom doesn't treat the audio levels properly. So it kind of sounds like ass. But he sounded great, I'm sure, in his condo. It just doesn't sound good via Zoom.
Starting point is 00:23:39 I got to get him in the backyard for that. What else about the Kim Mitchell? Real quick thing about the Kim Mitchell episode is that... Can you get Kim Mitchell to perform at the next live gathering? That would be something. Well, you know what? One thing about this delay is there's a number of musicians who want to play it now.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I could almost put on a little Edgefest or something. Hawksley Workman would love to play, and Tara Sloan says she wants to sing. Whoa. I think they need to get in line behind Kim Mitchell. That's right. and Tara Sloan says she wants to sing. Oh. You know, I still want the Watchmen. I think they need to get in line behind Kim Mitchell. That's right. Maybe Kim Mitchell and Biff Naked,
Starting point is 00:24:11 like a good duo. That's a good double bill. Yeah. And then we could still have lowest of the low headline. Maybe the Watchmen would be on that bill or whatever. But okay, the song I've been calling Go For A Soda my whole life is not called Go For A Soda.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Is it called Might As Well Go For A Soda? Nope. Go For Soda. Correctamundo. Go For Soda, GFS. Right. But it's not Go For A Soda. When I called it that, he corrected me, so it matters to him.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So does he actually say might as well go for soda? He doesn't say the word ah in the lyrics? Correct. He says might as well go for soda and it's not might as well go for a soda? Correct. So this is like the Princess Gates, Prince's Gates? Wow. Or when Jake... Similar type of debate, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Sorry, when Jake Gold was here and I referred to Tragically Hip and he corrected me, it's, no, it's The Tragically Hip. Like, don't forget The. It's actually part of the name. I feel like you went over this with the gourd depth of the spoons too,
Starting point is 00:25:22 whether it's just spoons or the spoons and not to be mistaken with spoons. But can we move on from black cars? Gino should play TMS. So just, and if you like golf at all or just enjoy like the TSN personalities, Bob Weeks was in
Starting point is 00:25:39 my backyard and it was really, really interesting because it's the first time I, it's the first time I had a first time guest in the backyard studio that's the first time that happened because every other backyard studio guest has been a repeat like a revisit or whatever so that was cool and one last thing for tragically hip fans uh jamie do came over tomorrow he's from the fully and completely podcast and we kicked out 10 hip jams And if you even like the tragically hip a little bit, I got a note from Mark Weisblatt from 1236 to say, I don't even like the hip,
Starting point is 00:26:10 but I loved that episode. So I just want to let people know that it's a good, it's a good show. I think so. Okay. Can you guys, before we establish the jam kicking premise today, can you tell us your screen names on zoom and the significance?
Starting point is 00:26:27 I've gone with a good friend of mine, Jimmy Edgar. He is just a really great guy. I actually prepared some words about him, so I'll let Cam sort of take over for a second while I pull up my notes. Yeah, Mike, you're going to have to fill in the story of mine. I feel like it was someone asked Weisblatt a question. No, no. It's someone on Twitter, DJ Dream Doctor. Is that an email or something? No, it was an Alan Cross episode.
Starting point is 00:26:57 DJ Dream Doctor had very specific questions about these charts that Edge 102 or CFNY would put out. They had a top 1,002 songs of all time. And they also had a bunch of charts. He wanted clarification on how the charts were assembled and where can they
Starting point is 00:27:16 find these charts. And this got Scott Turner involved, who has screen caps of these. He's been documenting this as well. So DJ Dream Doctor, who was very interested in this, got a lot of good info from Alan, but then that led to even better info
Starting point is 00:27:31 from Scott Turner. And I feel like a straw stirring this drink. I'm just glad that I can play a role in something as important as the top 1,002 versus the top 1,021 and when were they and how? Anyway, it's all very interesting. So DJ Dream Doctor.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I was going to say maybe DJ Dream Doctor could give us a second opinion on whether Gowan Dancing on My Two Shoes or whatever that fucking song was called. They actually played it on CFNY because I still don't think... They did. I know Alan Cross, but he wasn't there
Starting point is 00:28:02 as we've learned subsequently. He wasn't there. We need to reopen this. No, they played it. And back to my name, by the way, Jimmy Edgar. Definitely a great guy. Rides a Bandit 1250 motorbike. Collects Hot Wheels.
Starting point is 00:28:20 You know, Hot Wheels, the little cars. Oh, wow. Collects those. He was an extra on Police Academy and Police Academy 3. I guess Police Academy 2 Citizens on Patrol. He was not a part of that one. But here's a fun fact about my friend James Edgar. He is followed on social media by Kim Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Whoa. So there you go. I've i've met james edgar i've met have you did you guys ever uh say hi to james edgar at atmlx i hope so i feel like i did what does he look like oh he looks just like uh a guy that was in Police Academy and Police Academy 3. Okay. He also loves... Like a Bubba Smith type? Yes, definitely. No, he has glasses. Short black hair.
Starting point is 00:29:15 He's a handsome man. He also, we should point out, he loves Rush. I feel like that's part of his bio. But I know Levi Fumka, because once the Royal Pains were playing a bar near my home, and Monica and I, my teenagers watched the little ones, and we went out to have a drink and watch the Royal Pains. And not only was Lieve Fumke there with Juan, who she's been married to for 11 years today, but James Edgar. Juan Fumke. James Edgar and his wife were there as well
Starting point is 00:29:46 so that's how close I am sorry ladies James Edgar is spoken for and I think he has a stepdaughter named Morgan which he mentioned because I have a daughter named Morgan so there's a couple of Morgans there wait is your
Starting point is 00:30:01 his stepdaughter is your daughter? he's married to your ex? no but there is somebody now married to my ex this is uh oh congrats yeah this was exciting news uh earlier this year do you get do you get invited to that type of thing or no it was in the well i know i wasn't gonna get invited but it was in the dominican republic actually in like january oh wow My teenagers were there, obviously. James, who was there, he's my oldest son, was my best man when I got married seven years ago
Starting point is 00:30:32 to Monica. So, shout out to James, who is working away. Both my teenagers are hard at work right now. They tell me working all day is very tiring. I'm like, get used to it. It's your life for the next 60 years. Let them listen to some Loverboy and just get through it.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Okay, I'm going to announce the... I think I chose this, so I will be solely responsible if this is a flop. But we're kicking out movie jams, but we cannot confuse that with kicking out soundtrack jams. You might want to kick out something like Urge Overkill, Girl, You'll Be a Woman Soon, because that's a big soundtrack jam that was in Pulp Fiction. And that would be a fine choice if this was soundtrack jams.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But this is songs written specifically for the movie. That song by Urge Overkill was, of course, a Neil Diamond song and was written well before. Specifically written for a movie. That song by Urge Overkill was of course a Neil Diamond song and was written well before. Specifically written for a movie. No, for the movie that it's on the soundtrack for. So you'd say, okay. This is new. This is new information that you're dropping on me.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Is that new, Cam? Talk to me. No, no, no. This is written for a movie. Stu missed the memo. And a fun fact about that Urge Overkill. I'm a big Urge Overkill guy. I once saw Dave Foley at an Urge Overkill concert, by the way. Wow, that's a fun fact.
Starting point is 00:31:53 It would be great to have him on the show. But yeah, that song actually appeared on an EP before it was on. It was on the Stull EP. Right. If you ever picked that one up from Urge Overkill. Even if that was not a Neil Diamond song, let's pretend that's
Starting point is 00:32:07 an Herd Overkill song. That's still ineligible for today's, because that was not written. I think if a song was written for a movie, then it is a song that is written for a movie.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Okay, so what's the difference? Like, why do you think that's different than what I'm saying? Well, you'll see, because there's one of my selections that has sort of a controversial, you know, path to landing on the screen.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Already some controversy. Okay, I look forward to the controversy. I actually am doing something that I was inspired by Stu Stone, as many of us are. Now, Stu likes to do the mind-blowing sixth jam that ties in with his fifth jam, and I like that a lot. And I'm going to do something similar, where I'm going to play a song that I know is ineligible, but there's a fun little story, and it kind of, let's just say I worked hard on preparing my jams for today's episode, so I got to get to this now.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Well, it's about damn time. GarbageDay.com slash Toronto Mike. Okay, and real estate. Stu, if you're looking to move south near the lake where it's much cooler, I know it's not exactly cool, but it is absolutely cooler here than where you guys are
Starting point is 00:33:12 because of the lake effect. So you contact Austin Keitner at the Keitner Group. So text Toronto Mike to 59559. Austin will take care of you. You should be closer. You could come into my backyard and it would be fun to see you guys
Starting point is 00:33:24 for these episodes. So let's do that up. Okay. We'll start with Cam as usual. Cam, here's your first jam. Wow. Leadoff hit a Ricky Henderson. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Leadoff hit a Ricky Henderson. Yeah, I almost felt like I should leave this. This isn't Stu's wheelhouse, but let's let it breathe a bit first. Someone who turns your heart around The next thing you know You're closing down on town Wake up and it's done with you Even though you left your way across town Wondering to yourself
Starting point is 00:34:15 Hey, what am I well? Did I get caught between the moon and New York City? I know it's crazy You can get caught between the moon and New York City I know it's crazy, but it's true You can get caught between the moon and New York City The best that you can do, the best that you can do The best that you can do Is fall in love Okay, let's bring it down, Mike. Of course, this is Christopher Cross,
Starting point is 00:34:55 The Best You Can Do, in brackets, Arthur's Theme, from the movie Arthur, starring Dudley Moore and the great Liza Minnelli from 1981. starring Dudley Moore and the great Liza Minnelli from 1981. You know, Christopher Croft of a doc rock originator. I know Sue Stone's a big fan.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Probably, I'm sure, often mistaken for Peter Cetera. I would imagine that similar light. Stu's giving me kind of a fuck-off look. Just on that, I think that, you know i props to you cam because you opened up with a huge lead-off hit right there i mean that's a that is a we could just end the show right now that is a really uh soundtrack if there ever was a song that was successful that was written for a soundtrack this would be it christopher cross of course, has a beautiful face for radio. And MTV sort of ended his run. what a jam.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah, and some fun facts about this song. This song won an Oscar for Best Original Song in 1981. It went to number one on both the Billboard Hot 100 and shocking here on the Hot Adult Contemporary Charts in October 1981 when I was about to celebrate my fourth birthday. Co-written by Burt Bacharach, this song.
Starting point is 00:36:18 There you go. Which we keep seeing his name pop up. Yeah, like it's just like the... Burt Bacharach is so prolific i was gonna say proliferation of burt backrock that's how i meant so anyway co-writer burt backrock um something this is not really about this uh christopher cross uh apparently there was a flamingo on every single Album cover he had It has nothing to do with the song but that's kind of a fun fact Wow And yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:36:50 And of course Christopher Cross brother of Alan Cross That's not true But he actually was there He was there at the Academy Awards to accept An Academy Award for this song Do you guys like this song? I mean very easy listening, but... Go ahead, Stu. This is in your
Starting point is 00:37:09 wheelhouse. It's a great song. This is a Stu jam. Yeah. Yacht Rock, right? This is kind of Yacht Rock-y. Like, this is... Oh, yeah, yeah. This is Yacht Rock. This is Yacht Rock Central right here. This is nice and relaxing. Could be laying in a hammock with Lieve Funke
Starting point is 00:37:24 just listening to the song. You know, rocking back and forth right here uh this is nice and relaxing could be laying in a hammock with leave a funka just listening to the song you know rocking back and forth waiting for our next pina colada to be delivered well that's a good song too you guys ever see this movie arthur i feel like there was like and there's arthur arthur two on the rocks that that's right and he was kind of like a drunk was he not yeah dudley morville a womanizer and they made a i forgot they made a remake with uh russell brand a few years ago i never saw that i didn't see any of these but it was very much around when i was growing up like i i think i was just a bit young for it and it never butter pick up two things quick though speak of fotms one is uh ironically uh perhaps uh james
Starting point is 00:38:01 edgar would hate this jam like james Edgar, he likes a strident hard rock. He wants his, he would hate this jam. And you know who would love this jam? I got to shout out FOTM Stephanie Wilkinson, because when we were doing the FOTM KOTJ, by the way, I want to do another volume. So maybe if you three could actually do another one and maybe get Juan to do another one too.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I need some submissions, FOT T M K O T J's. But when we did that, uh, I think one of the first submissions I got was Stephanie Wilkinson, who loves Christopher crosses sailing. That's another great song. And of course, let's not leave out ride like the wind featuring the,
Starting point is 00:38:38 uh, the very influential Michael McDonald on backup vocals. Yeah. I'll just say, uh, the, the music of final thought on Christopher Cross just epitomizes the term breezy.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Like has there ever been a more breezy artist with his, the sounds that he provides the great Christopher Cross. And that is the name. Of course, the legacy of Christopher Cross lived on in the nineties with jump, jump. I missed the bus and the rest of the crisscross jams. Yeah, he put his pleated pants on backwards,
Starting point is 00:39:09 and the rest was... His yacht, his captain's hat turned around. Yeah, kind of Kangol style. Before you kick off my jam, Mike, because it's just one of those needle drop records where as soon as the needle drops, instantly your mood changes. This next song is a banger.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And if we had judges, you know, Cam opened up very strong. But I think that, you know, if Liva Famco was able to judge, she would really, I think, you know, this is going to be a dominant round for me. As the star of Jack of All Trades wilner says it's early it's early it is early but boy oh boy cam just came out with an uppercut and i feel like i i'm gonna counter with a mean left hook Won't you come see about me? I'll be alone Dancing in the wind, baby
Starting point is 00:40:15 Tell me your troubles and doubts Giving me everything inside and out And love's strange, surreal in the dark Think of the tender things, that we were working on Slow change, may pull us apart When the light gets in your heart, baby Don't you, forget about me All right. Talk to me, Stu. This is a jam. I mean, you mess with the bull, you get the horns.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Obviously, this is from the film The Breakfast Club, one of the greatest movies ever. Still holds up. Still awesome. Great cast, John Hughes legend. This song has so many cool, fun facts about it. Obviously, if you're a fan of Simple Minds, you might not like this song. It sounds nothing like their other material for the most part. It's a rare Simple Minds jam that they did not write. Yeah, and that's the interesting part.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So the song was written by Keith Forsey and Steve Schiff, who were, they were scoring the movie, The Breakfast Club. So you have the guys that were scoring the movie wrote this song. And actually, if you watch The Breakfast Club movie, the movie opens with the demo version of the song
Starting point is 00:41:39 with no vocals on it and ends with the recorded Simple Minds version. So that's a rare fun fact that the demo of a song is in the movie. But these guys were soundtrack monsters. They wrote Flashdance, What a Feeling. They wrote The Heat Is On from Beverly Hills Cop. These guys had a nice run in the 80s. By the way, the 80s is the decade that I will be covering today for my jams in general.
Starting point is 00:42:03 But interesting journey and path that it took for this song to get to Simple Minds. The song was offered to Brian Ferry. It was offered to Billy Idol. It was offered to Corey Hart. It was offered to The Fix.
Starting point is 00:42:19 It was offered to... The Beatles of the 80s, The Fix. Yeah, it was offered to... Hold on, there's some, the fix. Yeah. It was offered to... Hold on. There's some other funny ones here. Let me see if I can find it. Annie Lennox. And finally, it was offered to Chrissy Hynde of the Pretenders to sing.
Starting point is 00:42:37 She passed on it, but she passed the idea to her husband at the time, who was the lead singer of Simple Minds. I don't want to disagree if you're stupid. I feel like that story is a little wrong. Like, I feel this song was written with Simple Minds in, like, I think they... Well, they passed on it, though. They passed on it.
Starting point is 00:42:58 They passed on it because they write their own songs, right? Right, and eventually, then he offered it to a slew of others, and it got passed on by all these people that it got back to Chris after Chrissy passed. She passed it on the idea. And it's probably the best decision Simple Minds ever made because they were having real problems trying to break through in in America and Canada, North American market. and this is the thing that sort of exploded them and you hear this song you think of judd nelson pumping his fist in the air with the earring dangling or maybe it wasn't dangling the diamond earring that he got from molly ringwald uh you think of uh the great child actor of that generation uh anthony michael hall michael anthony hall however you say it uh michael one of the one of the best of the best and coming from a former child actor that guy was like the oscar of child actors and what a movie of the breakfast club is and what a
Starting point is 00:43:51 song so go ahead tell us why you don't like it no i it and honestly i i knew that simple minds didn't write this so this was written for the movie then yes yeah this was written for the movie okay i stand corrected then like i I sort of knew that Simple Minds didn't write this. I've actually never seen this movie, so I feel like... Wow! It's such a good movie! I'm sure it's great.
Starting point is 00:44:15 It's really, really fucking awesome, man. Holy shit. Come on, man. What's the matter with you? Cam, have you seen that? I'm good with this choice. It's funny, like, Brian Ferry, when you mentioned that, I read this somewhere,
Starting point is 00:44:29 how someone thought it was weird that in another John Hughes movie, Ferris Bueller, when they show the bedroom shot, there's a giant Brian Ferry poster over Ferris' bed. I think, like, the Slave to Love album, which seemed a bit out of step with uh how ferris
Starting point is 00:44:46 bueller operated because he also had some like cabaret volunteer posters it was i think it's like a music podcast where i'm happy you saw ferris bueller's clearly clearly many times well maybe you need to open up your mind and check out the breakfast club it's really really great and one of these one one one note that I will say is that there is an element of the song that was, I'm using air quotes, written by the Simple Minds guys, was the,
Starting point is 00:45:14 the la, la, la, la, la, that was them. And that turned out to be sort of a stadium call and answer moment. These guys always remind me a bit of U2. Like that song, Alive and and kicking felt very like you too a lot chanting or like it was very epic in scale the uh jim kerr that was the singer right yeah so he was dating chrissy hind uh yeah yes gotcha gotcha the uh well yeah the uh married to married to married to my yeah my
Starting point is 00:45:48 chrissy heine fucking rocks there's a there's a rock star i love that chick it's the uh what was i gonna say i can't remember anymore because uh i can't remember what i was gonna say but it was it was something profound and interesting and you're all worse off that i forgot it but all right good choice i think i think cam was ready to pounce on you, Stu, for breaking the rules. But this is a valid choice, and it's a good jam. But don't celebrate too early. Don't celebrate too early,
Starting point is 00:46:13 because my jam hasn't played yet. So here's my first selection. Wow. Wow. Wow, okay. Well, look at you. You've got three heavy hitters in the first round. This might be the most prolific opening round we've ever had.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Two Oscar winners in the opening round of a movie category. Mom's Spaghetti. of a movie category mom spaghetti He sees everything you ever wanted in one moment But you capture it, just let it slip Yo, his palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready They drop bombs, but he keeps on forgetting what he wrote down The whole crowd goes so loud, he opens his mouth, but the words won't come out.
Starting point is 00:47:27 He's choking how. Everybody's choking now. The clock's run out. Time's up. Over. Plow. Snap back to reality. Oh, there goes gravity.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Oh, there goes gravity. Choke. He's so mad, but he won't give up that. Is he? No, he won't have it. He knows. It's all back to these ropes. It don't matter.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's dope. He knows that, but he's broke. He's so stagnant. He knows when he goes back to this. So name a bigger movie jam of the last 20 years here. Come on, this is Lose Yourself. For, of course, 8 Mile, written for the movie. And just like Christopher Cross, Eminem got himself an Oscar for this jam. This is the modern day, you know, this is like your modern day Rocky theme here. What do you say, Stu Stone? I mean, there's no denying this movie, the cultural impact and the pop cultural impact of this song and this artist. You know, this was probably at the height of Eminem's, you know, dominance over the music world.
Starting point is 00:48:38 And it's a great song. I mean, who doesn't like this song? And what a first round this is. I mean, of the three movies, Arthur, 8 Mile and Breakfast Club, I'd say Breakfast round this is i mean of the three movies uh arthur eight mile and breakfast club i'd say breakfast club is the best best movie of the three but i would say that if you had to argue about these songs you know you guys both came with oscar winners in your opening i mean you guys might yeah hopefully you don't run out of gas you guys really uh you guys blew your load very early in the episode this is quite the hype
Starting point is 00:49:07 song too like uh i know that you know when i needed to get myself up for a big slow pitch game for example you know you blast some uh lose yourself on the uh the ipod or the sony walkman or whatever i was using and it really hypes you up. Go ahead, Cam. Yeah, I don't, I mean, I feel like this is one of those songs, it's almost one of those, what else can be about Lose You? Hasn't been said before. I think it's a song we've all heard
Starting point is 00:49:37 thousands of times. I feel like this was like a crossover song that even Edge 102 would play, which I don't recall them playing. I feel like this... Is that crossover song that like even like edge 102 would play uh which i don't recall them playing i feel like that's is that a mispronunciation edge 102 who has anybody ever called that radio station i think that's the official name no no i thought it's i thought it's 102.1 the edge cam i can speak to this because i call it edge 102 all the time and robbie j always corrects me it was it was edge two for a brief period of time in the early nineties.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And then they changed it to one Oh 2.1, the edge for some reason, but I still call it edge one Oh two. Cause it rolls off my tongue, but easier. I like it better. Mine too. Um,
Starting point is 00:50:18 yeah. Cause I feel like this and shortly thereafter outcast. Hey, yeah. By the Atlanta hip hophop duo Outkast came out where they were sort of doing little crossovers into things that they wouldn't have played before.
Starting point is 00:50:34 I felt at the time... Yeah, I don't really know what else I have to say about this song. It just... Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's a great song. When they added that to The Edge 102, it was in high rotation on 102.1 The Edge,
Starting point is 00:50:46 and it was a little controversial because they never played rap, but they added a rap song by a white artist, and I distinctly remember it was almost like when MTV wouldn't play black artists, I think, at first, until eventually they added Michael Jackson or something like that to the, to the playlist.
Starting point is 00:51:07 But it was, it was interesting that the first rap song you ever heard on, on high rotation on one or 2.1 was by a white artist in a very black dominated genre. Well, and it also wasn't particularly alternative. Like it was arguably the biggest song that came out that year or certainly one of them. It's what from like what, 2000, 2001 that came out?
Starting point is 00:51:31 2002. 2002. Okay. I would say that Eminem's whole, you know, while his initial career boom had a lot, you know, a lot like him being a white guy was at the forefront of him launching as an artist, like, Oh, listen to this white guy. But I think he sort of transcended that. Like, I don't think, I think he's just so good at rapping that people aren't, don't label him white or black or anything. He's just a rapper. I think he sort of was able to shed the, he's a white guy thing i don't think people even
Starting point is 00:52:07 think about that anymore or maybe i'm wrong but i feel like he sort of uh is one of the guys that sort of was able to overcome that stigma oh yeah oh yeah you know i'm with you i'm with you well because he was a hell of a rapper like uh he was he was a great rapper like what sorry one final maybe thought on eminem just curious like what what do you guys think about his like last two or three albums like this more sort of love the way you lie with rihanna and this more pop oriented stuff i i'm really not a fan of kind of the direction that like some of these songs i think they're like brutal like i just i don't know like there's something about it i really don't like i don't i mean listen i'm uh you're you're not wrong but uh i think it is very difficult for some you know rap music specifically is a very youthful young sort of genre that it's hard to have a 20-year run as a rapper yeah you just don't see
Starting point is 00:53:07 people who are you know you see these bands like lynyrd skinner or whatever these guys are into their the rolling stones are 100 they're still playing shows you don't really see that in hip-hop and i think that eminem has managed to sort of stay relevant by doing those types of songs but obviously the works the first few albums are the works that are the that's the stuff that that's the good stuff yeah i'd say like yeah i i mean 20 years into a career name a band that's still making relevant sort of pop culturally relevant music maybe the foo fighters i don't know yeah like i i feel like i have similar yet different thoughts about jay-z like it's it's all just feels blabber. You're right.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Like it's, it's sort of a genre list comment on just career artists and hip hop still being a relatively young format compared to, I guess, rock music. Yeah. We're just now starting to see our first generation of hip hop artists in their fifties and still making music.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Like we, we never had this before really so no good point i mean uh public enemy's still putting out new stuff in their uh yeah they're in their mid-50s now so yeah and chuck d is an fotm by the way thanks for pointing out even maestro maestro's got to be 50 now right he's got to be uh i mean he looks 35 but he's got to be 50 but okay let's kick out a second cam jam. Come at the grand light making a sound The smell of death is all around And you're not when the cold wind blows No one cares, nobody knows
Starting point is 00:54:55 I don't want to be buried In a big cemetery I don't want to live my life again I'm going to start talking because much like every other song by the Ramones, I think this is a fairly short track. So this is the song Pet Sematary from the movie It. No, it's from the movie Pet Sematary by the Ramones, obviously based on the Stephen King novel of the same name.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Also featured on the Ramones' 1989 album Brain Drain. Yeah, one of the biggest Ramones radio hits, which isn't really saying much. I mean, I feel like the Ramones have become a lot more significant, at least in the mainstream, in depth than they were in life because they were kind of around forever. And now they seem to just get merchandised a lot. There's a pretty interesting backstory. Stephen King apparently was a huge Ramones fan and brought the band out to his place in Maine as he was starting to put together the movie.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Asked them to write kind of a theme song. Didi Ramone, the the guitarist allegedly wrote this in about 15 minutes um and then there's an interesting quote here um i think who said this their drummer marky said that it was the confidence inspired by didi's uh ability to write a great song so quickly that inspired him to later become a rapper. Now, have you guys ever seen his Didi King forays? I feel like this is like a 1236. I've definitely covered it on an episode of Toronto Mic'd. And why do I think it was a Pandemic Friday episode?
Starting point is 00:56:40 Yeah, I feel like it might have been in sort of just like worse songs or something. If you Google the song F man by dd king uh dd ramones rap or hip-hop alias uh it's it's brutal it's really yeah mike i feel like we talked about that also with like lou reed the original rapper yeah i think we we often talk about doing an episode about rappers who rap songs by people who should not be rapping or something like that. Yeah, I feel like there was something like that. A couple more fun facts about this.
Starting point is 00:57:14 Debbie Harry and Chris Stein from Blondie were in the video. I don't know if that's fun. Does anyone care? Probably not. I think she had a birthday. Final thought on this song. And I actually quite like this song. Actually, I have two more thoughts on this.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Nominated for the Razzie Award for Worst Original Song in 1989, which I think is... You went from an Oscar nominee to a Razzie nominee. Pretty much. Well, they did not win. That song went to... That honor, and I say that in air quotes, went to Bring Your Daughter to the the slaughter by Bruce Dickinson of Iron
Starting point is 00:57:48 Maiden. That was a song you did for the nightmare on Elm street five soundtrack. And just look at the Razzie award for worst song. 1993, the worst song was actually something we covered recently. And that's Adam family womb from the aforementioned tag team. And a final thought on this. The video for this, some of you may recall, we've definitely talked about this before, was a main say for the video hits with Samantha
Starting point is 00:58:14 Taylor, the annual Halloween episode. I feel like every single Halloween episode, this song would be played. Because I feel like that was the only time I ever saw the Ramones. I didn't even know who they were. Cam, what's the Headstone song? There's a Headstone song about pets.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I think it's just like graveyard, like just graveyard or I think it's just called Cemetery. Okay, there. Okay, yeah. I know it's a good jam though. Yeah. All right. The song's about cemetery. There's also silver chair cemetery.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Yeah, it's a popular topic for's also silver chair cemetery. Yeah. It's a popular topic for songs. Yeah. I like it. I'm a tomorrow or bust when it comes to silver chair. But yeah, good stuff. Okay. So now are we ready for this jam?
Starting point is 00:58:56 I love this. Oh man, I just love this topic. Here we are with Stu's second jam. So don't wait down the Holiday Road. Holiday Road. Holiday Road. Well, here we go. Holiday Road from the film Vacation, European Vacation, which is a great sequel, Christmas Vacation, Vegas Vacation, all the vacation movies. This is the song. And I have to tell you, you know, I was fully expecting to play this song and do a tribute to who I was going to name as like the soundtrack king of the 80s. And I was mistaken on who the performer of this song was this was a
Starting point is 01:00:06 leonard cohen self moment where i was discovered for the first time i always thought that this was a kenny logan song for some reason and i was grouping it in with caddy shack and i was gonna name off uh highway to the danger zone and all the footloose and all the Kenny Loggins jams, but this is actually Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac solo effort, and it's from, obviously, the National Lampoon, European, and Vegas, and Vacation movies. This song only made it to number 82 on the charts. However, it is one of Buckingham's best-known songs.
Starting point is 01:00:46 I think that instantly you hear this song and you think of Chevy Chase and Russ, and he's going to pork her, Russ. Beverly D'Angelo. Kind of an interesting fun fact about this song also is that
Starting point is 01:01:03 in sort of Prince or Beck or Billy Corgan fashion, all of the personnel on the track is Lindsey Buckingham. He's playing the bass. He's playing the drums. He's playing guitar. He's playing everything. He's singing everything. It is Lindsey Buckingham doing everything on this track. Like the first Foo Fighters album, right?
Starting point is 01:01:23 That was just Dave doing everything, I think. But yeah. I don't know that. That I don't know. But I know like the Smashing Pumpkins and Billy Corgan's claim that he played all the instruments on the Siamese Dream album.
Starting point is 01:01:37 But yeah, this is a Lindsey Buckingham special. Okay, shout out to those first two vacation movies, which I watched a million times. And I know everybody loves, loves of course the first one but i spent a lot i spent far too much time with european vacation yeah me too european vacation is the better is the better movie for a certain age of people i guess maybe but you know the original vacation is obviously a classic wally world john candy uh you know grandma dead on top of the station wagon but the number two they go to europe and it was just so amazing like uh you know you had uh eric idol in there with you uh
Starting point is 01:02:10 getting hit with his bicycle uh just a flesh wound and uh you know you have a russ goes to the strip club and listens to uh feel the heat every time his beret and the dog like jumps off the Eiffel Tower two things in that movie one is every time they have that scene where they're they ask a stranger to take their photo and then he goes go take your shoes off and get in the fountain yeah and then he runs off of the camera I think about that a lot for some reason like what a good scam that was like I think that was really smart and secondly picking a poke picking a poke as well. Don't leave that out. Audrey. Oh yeah, that's right. That's how it begins, right?
Starting point is 01:02:49 There's that... Also, one more scene where they're in the roundabout in London. They're in the roundabout and he can't... Look, kids! Big Ben! Parliament! So, Clark can't get out of the roundabout. And I'm telling you, because not so much in Toronto, but when we went on a couple of road trips, we went out east.
Starting point is 01:03:06 There were a lot more roundabouts, like a lot of roundabouts. And every time I'm in one of those roundabouts, I think of that scene. Like, will I be able to get out of this thing? Or am I going to keep going around in circles? I don't know. And again, we talk about this when we talk about Porky's or Revenge of the Nerds.
Starting point is 01:03:22 For a young Mike, this was an important movie because it let me see some breasts. about like porkies or revenge of the nerds uh for a young mike this was an important movie uh because it let me see some uh breasts yeah it was well it was the first one wasn't like christy brinkley in it or something she was yeah the first one but not naked by the way but yeah she was in that that car she was the hot band right and the swimming pool right yeah yeah this she's not in the second one no no yeah no this was a great choice too i love this song i always for some reason it reminds me of john fogarty's center field for some reason um but like a way way better song and yeah i almost even like talking about those movies i'm not even a big movie person but makes me want to go watch them. Just so much kind of relatable content for road trips and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I'm going to change the tone here of my jam, but just before we leave that former topic there, another great song from a similar era, great song, great movie from that era that I loved for similar reasons. I loved Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Yeah, of course. I know, and I watched, I think I, and when the DVDs came to surface,
Starting point is 01:04:26 that was one of the first DVDs I bought. I still have it in a box somewhere and I just watched it over and over and over. I just love that movie. I've also never,
Starting point is 01:04:35 never seen that one. Oh, man. Dude, that was a great one. All right, you guys, just for Judge Reinhold. Okay, so let's, that's great. Really, the true answer
Starting point is 01:04:43 is Phoebe Cates, but we'll talk about that later. Cam is sort of the Spicoli of our crew back in the day. Spicoli, Mr. Ham? I was like the Cameron of Ferris Bueller's Day. Yeah, you're actually... Isn't it Cameron Crowe that wrote Fast
Starting point is 01:04:57 Times? Yes. Did he really? He wrote Fast Times. Wow. That's right. And, of course, Almost Famous, another great movie with great music. Okay, let's kick out this jam. It'll be all day if I don't start it right now. Again, tone change from that Lindsey Buckingham. So bear with me.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Is this going to be The Proclaimers? A slow build. There's a pale horse coming And I'm going riding I'll rise in the morning And I'm going right in I'll rise in the morning My fate decided I'm a dead man walking
Starting point is 01:05:35 I'm a dead man walking In St. James Parish I was born and christened I've got my story Master, I ain't no need for you to listen It's just a dead man talking
Starting point is 01:06:06 Once I had a job, I had a girl Between our dreams and actions, life is war In the deep forest Speaking of Spicoli, this song was written by Bruce Springsteen for Dead Man Walking starring Sean Penn.
Starting point is 01:06:39 And a movie I loved, although I haven't seen it in a long time, I really loved it at the time and I really loved the soundtrack. I picked up the soundtrack, and this captured the essence of the film. And I had to choose which Bruce Springsteen soundtrack song, because he's another guy who's done it.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Yeah, I mean, now that you mention it, he's a guy that's been in a lot. Now that I'm thinking of it, while Kenny Loggins may be the king, Bruce Springsteen is not far behind. I think he has Streets of Philadelphia. I think the aforementioned The Wrestler, I think he sang the song from that movie too, maybe. This song, that's a lot. Yeah, and I really like his City of the Philadelphia song,
Starting point is 01:07:17 although I also really love the Neil Young song, Philadelphia. City of brotherly love, don't turn your back. But yeah, so Philadelphia, that's a great soundtrack of some original jams written for that. But that's not what I'm playing here. This is for Dead Man Walking, a song I loved, a movie I loved,
Starting point is 01:07:32 and a song I loved from the soundtrack written specifically for the film. And everybody, you know, I have on these 50-somethings, 60-somethings sports media guys come in here to kick out the jams. And I always get the bruce springsteen jam and it's 70s bruce because of course they fell in love with 70s bruce i'm too young for 70s bruce i
Starting point is 01:07:49 like him in retrospect but i grew up with born in the usa and my favorite bruce happens to be soundtrack bruce find me somebody who whose favorite bruce's soundtrack bruce that's me nobody you're you're on you're on a lonely island on your by yourself with that one I feel like he always had a goatee when he was on a soundtrack too it's almost like he changed looks right so yeah that was my second choice
Starting point is 01:08:16 was this a hit? I feel like this was a single I sort of remember hearing this I don't remember it at all is this your LA years? this was on much music a lot the dead man walk-ins so uh yeah i don't know wasn't there there was a movie just called dead man too right that was like with johnny depp or something it's johnny depp yeah which i think neil young did the soundtrack for that as well and And of course, you have The Undertaker, who is known as the Dead Man.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, I mean, Mean Mark Callous. I mean, sure. All right. Ready to get funkified here. This is a great jam from Cam Gordon. Are you playing Debrat again? Yeah, with Jodeci. Jodakai.
Starting point is 01:09:07 Most Def. Most Def. Okay. Good for you, Cam. Good for you, bud. You're gonna make your fortune by and by But if you lose, don't ask no questions why The only game you know is do or die Hard to understand what a hell of a man you are Okay, so we're listening to a little Curtis Mayfield
Starting point is 01:10:00 in the title track from Superfly from 1972. Great film of the era. Obviously, I should know this. I assume this Superfly, Jimmy Snuka, this is where that came from. Obviously, sort of a different line of guy, like jumping off the top rope and bare feet. But like, is that is this where his nickname came from i don't think so like it's very like different worlds obviously but i i always meant to check in on that but maybe maybe like jimmy snooker's personal life yeah maybe with uh yeah we won't
Starting point is 01:10:41 go into that but uh this is again Curtis Mayfield I must feel like is underrated at least in terms of his chart performance it was interesting when I was doing some research how few charting hits he had given the amount of stuff he wrote that was recorded by other people and the stuff he did with the impressions
Starting point is 01:11:00 I'm trying to remember did we do people get ready during our protest anthems I don't think we did i feel like we're i was considering it that would have been a fine choice um so yeah this was one of two songs from the superfly soundtrack to chart uh the song went to number eight on the billboard charts and then freddy's dead uh from that that same soundtrack album went to number four. This song was sampled a number of times. I guess most famously by the
Starting point is 01:11:30 Beastie Boys on the track Eggman from Paul's Boutique. Also, it's part of the intro to Much Disgusted or SBIG's Ready to Die album. I don't remember this song. Nelly, Tilt Your Head Back with Christina Aguilera.
Starting point is 01:11:52 No, I don't know that one one we're all shaking our heads i think like this sort of started like the success of this song sort of got people other ideas i think like the theme from shaft was like sort of popular and you know movie themes sort of became popularized. You know, the title track. I guess James Bond has been doing that forever, but sort of like in a cooler, hipper way, maybe. Yeah, I fucking love this song. I think it's great. Apparently he did a remake of this song, or an updated version of the song in 1990 with Ice
Starting point is 01:12:18 T. I totally do not remember this. No, what do you mean? And it was also covered by Mike, I can't remember because this sadly this guy's been gone for a few years uh covered by jack soul canadian r&b there was hayden neil ever on your podcast i feel like he's he's passed away like he passed away a while ago i'm yeah he's been dead a while now uh unfortunately there might have been a remake of the song for, I think last summer there was a remake, there was a remake of Superfly
Starting point is 01:12:50 that came out in theaters last year, or two years ago, that was directed by Toronto's own Director X. Really? Yeah, so a little Canadian Ken Con there. The song I thought, and I could be wrong, but I thought that the song that Curtis Mayfield would have done with Ice-T would be I'm Your Pusher, because Ice-T had the big hit with I'm Your Pusha.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Yeah, the Pusher Man. Yeah, well, that's based on the great Curtis Mayfield. Since we're playing Curtis Mayfield, who I very much enjoy, and I'm staring at my complete series, the box set of the wire here. I need to give a shout out to Cuddy Wise. Cuddy went for that run on election day and he put on his Sony Walkman and he listened to move on up from Curtis Mayfield.
Starting point is 01:13:38 One of my favorite scenes in the entire series. So whenever I, yeah. So move on up has become a little personal anthem for was cuddy cuddy weiss was he the boxing coach yeah that's right he the game ain't no more yeah yeah yeah he was he was cool he turned his life around and that yeah well that great scene where he's like where he wanted out and then that guy goes uh he was a man back in the day and then i think it's marlo's not marlo it was actually Avon Barksdale I think says
Starting point is 01:14:05 he's a man now. I'm telling you man, I drop that on my kids all the time. He was a man back in the day. He's a man now. Okay, shout out to Cuddy. He did those years in the cut. He held the wire. Cuddy Wise. Man, and he got
Starting point is 01:14:22 some, he did well with the moms of those kids at that boxing place. I think he did quite well for himself. He was a happy man. Oh, yeah. No, he had a lot going on outside the boxing ring, too, for sure. Here's a guy who's got a lot going on here. Let's kick out Stu's third jam.
Starting point is 01:14:45 So, Stu. So stew. So stew. There are so many things I want to say. I will always love you. I would never leave you alone. Sometimes I just forget. This goes out to Levi Famke from Juan. Happy anniversary. All right, talk to me, Stu, because I feel like this one might be controversial. Let's hear from you.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I can't talk yet. I need the chorus to hit. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I am a man who will fight for your honor I'll be the hero you're dreaming of We'll live forever Knowing together that we did it all All right. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:16:13 The floor is yours, Stu, as you try to explain yourself here, because I kind of know what you're going to say, but we'll have to have a discussion after your ramble here, whether this is going to be allowed. All right. discussion after your ramble here whether this is going to be allowed all right well let's get to the some of the some of the stats uh written by uh peter satara his ex-wife and canadian david foster obviously uh this is the first song that satara recorded post chicago that sort of launched him into solo career stratosphere uh Written for a movie.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Originally written for the film Rocky IV. Yes. Fight for a glory of love. I am a man who will fight for your honor. This was initially for Rocky IV, but United Artists heard the song and passed. And it landed on the Karate Kid 2 soundtrack instead where it became a massive smash hit and surpassed any song on the Rocky IV soundtrack and that includes James Brown Living in America. This is a smash hit song and people often mistake this song for Chicago because
Starting point is 01:17:22 there's sort of like a bridge section of the song that sort of sounds like old Chicago too. But you know this is Peter Cetera, this launched his solo career that sort of was a one album sort of solo career. He probably will never get back together with Chicago again. When they were nominated for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame he didn't show up. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He didn't show up. But yeah, this was originally written for Rocky IV and they said no thank you after they heard it and landed as the main theme for the Karate Kid 2. And it was a big, big, big stinking hit. Went to number
Starting point is 01:17:59 one and nominated for Academy Awards and all that stuff. So before you say that it's disqualified, if it can get nominated for an Oscar, then that must mean that it was written for a movie. You know what? Was this nominated for an Oscar? I may have made that up, but I guess you'll have to look that up.
Starting point is 01:18:17 I don't think it's eligible for Oscars because it was not written for the movie in which it was featured. I also will throw this in, and I can go back to our DM discussion. I'm happy to take the screen caps. I keep all my receipts. I will say that
Starting point is 01:18:31 I was explicit, Stu Stone, I was explicit. This was written for a movie and this was performed at the Oscars at the 59th Academy Awards which took place Monday, March 30th 1987 at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion in Los Angeles. This song is a classic.
Starting point is 01:18:49 It was written for another movie, appeared in a different movie that is, to me and Cam, I want to hear your thoughts on this. In our discussions, I said it had to be, because you said, can I be honest, it has to be on a soundtrack. And I said it has to be written for the movie and appear in that movie. Not written for the movie and appear in that movie.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Not written in any movie and appear in any movie. It's a song that was written for a movie and landed on a movie and became the anthem for that movie. I do love Stu's confidence and how he's trying to push us over the finish line. No. I mean, I feel like this would, would you know in a court of law you know we'd have to like dissect the words written for a movie and then kind of sloppy seconds went to another movie i don't know i'd have to go back and dissect the words i have the
Starting point is 01:19:40 receipts it's a little it's a little fishy i I'll just say that. Is it a great song? Yeah. Fishy or not, we had songs that were written specifically for a movie. This song was written specifically for a movie. And it turned out to be the anthem of a movie. This song, it had to be written for
Starting point is 01:19:59 the movie in which it appears. That was clear. But I'm kind of glad you did this actually, because, uh, what I'm going to do now is take you guys on a very brief musical journey. So hold my hand. I'm going to take you here.
Starting point is 01:20:12 It ties in so beautifully for, with what Stu did. So Stu just played a jam that was written for Rocky four, Rocky fours, whatever, whoever's in charge of that movie said, no, thank you.
Starting point is 01:20:23 It was picked up by another movie Karate Kid Part 2 now I'm going to take you on a journey this is not my submission I'm going to play three songs in total but I'll talk over them and we'll make it quicker but the first two songs I play are not my official submissions
Starting point is 01:20:39 the third is but again I will speak to this this journey and it's not by journey by the way what a setup I'm speak to this journey. And it's not by journey, by the way. But here's the... What a setup. This was a song. I'm excited to see what this is. I wanted to pick this song.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Okay, so this is the song I wanted to pick. I didn't pick it, but I wanted to pick this song. Try to be best, cause you're only a man And a man's got to learn to take it Roddy, kid, one. You're the best around.'re only a man and a man's got to learn to take it. Roddy, kid, one. You're the best around. It ain't tough to make it. History repeats itself.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Try and you succeed. Never doubt that you're the one and you can have your dream. You're the best around. Nothing's going to ever keep you down. You're the best around. I want to run through a fucking wall right now. Honestly, I loved Karate Kid 1 so much. And this is the big jam at the big climatic scene. Now, if you listen to Joe Esposito,
Starting point is 01:21:42 as he sings in this song, he goes, history repeats. Well, history repeats. Well, history repeats. This is the first time Daniel Sun has ever competed. What do you mean history repeats? He's there for the first time. Well, this song, I hope you're all sitting down, okay? This song was originally written to appear on Rocky II.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Rocky III. Whoa, Rocky III. This song was written on Rocky 3. Whoa, Rocky 3. This song was written for Rocky 3. And I'm going to fade it down. I love that song, Joe Esposito, but you're in. And I knew that was ineligible, just like Stu's jam was ineligible. So then I said, okay, why did that not make Rocky 3? Well, it's because the producers of Rocky III
Starting point is 01:22:25 preferred a different song. This is the champ! I mean, dialogue from the film is in the title of the song. They say, I, the tiger, rock in the movie is the title of the song. They say, I, the tiger, rock in the movie. Yeah, so this song, yeah, this would have been eligible, but I didn't pick this song.
Starting point is 01:22:52 I'm just playing it because this is the song that they went with on Rocky III. How could you not play this? This is a classic song. My songs, my choice, Stu Stone. But you're still sneaking it in. It's like you're just getting all these extra choices right now. Who's the artist on? Survivor.
Starting point is 01:23:11 Survivor. Survivor. Survivor, right. Michael Sambello is maniac. Right. Yes, correct. Now, You're the Best, by the way, one of the writers of You're the Best is Bill Conti, of course, who did the Rocky stuff. That's because that was for Rocky III. three now the song i ended up going with okay so at the time i was really into karate kid and i was
Starting point is 01:23:30 i i don't know if there's any movie i've seen more than karate kid as a youngster there but i watched it so many times loved it and there was another movie i had i think i recorded it off a free preview of like first choice or super channel or something we had a free preview and i recorded it to vhs and I watched it so much. This is the jam I'm going with, and, well, I'll talk after I play a little bit of it. I was down to zero Still an unsung hero Waiting for my ship to come ashore
Starting point is 01:24:17 I stood empty handed Like a seagull stranded Watching all the other seagulls soar. I was slowly losing hope, twisting freight ends of a rope, in a suicidal fantasy. I was going to extremes, losing sight of all my dreams again, I never thought I'd win. I'm waiting for the... Come on. Don't bore us. Mark, get to the chorus.
Starting point is 01:24:56 Okay, I'll come back when it comes in there. Mark Safin is how I would say it. And I don't know if that's correct or not. But this song... And I'm going to preface this by saying I googled it and I did a bunch of research and I could not find any proof that he wrote it for the movie. Okay, but here's the part. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:25:23 What movie is this from? Yeah, I mean, what a fucking ball drop. You passed on playing Eye of the Tiger for this? Correct. And this is from Rocky? No. Now, if I made this song...
Starting point is 01:25:39 It's from Home Alone 3. The big climatic scene in Teen Wolf when they're playing basketball. And he's not the wolf anymore. Classic film. He's not the wolf anymore. He's just Scott.
Starting point is 01:25:53 Yeah, yeah. Hey, listen. No wolf, no park. I don't know how to put this, but no wolf, no park. Who's the guy in that movie with the t-shirt that says what are you looking at dick nose do you remember
Starting point is 01:26:06 the different time and he couldn't find the weed and because teen wolf had good smelling ability he's a wolf you know enhanced sense of smell so I love used to do headstands on my van oh to be drive through the streets of Thornhill together yeah probably do something on do headstands on my van when we drive through the streets of Thornhill together. We'll probably do something on Saturday night.
Starting point is 01:26:29 Do you remember this? Give me a keg of beer. Can you just kill the music for one second? Just for one second? I do a masterful impression of that. Give me a keg of beer. Now.
Starting point is 01:26:44 That's pretty much awesome. Go ahead. That sounds like Andre the Giant. Yeah, well, that's sort of what they do. Yeah, that was scary. I've probably seen Teen Wolf more than any other movie in my life. Teen Wolf 2? Okay. No, no, just Teen Wolf.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Teen Wolf. Do you think at the end when he bypasses the hot blonde chick for the cool brunette, does he make the right choice? Boof. Yes. Boof. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:09 Does he make the right choice? Because that's the opposite. I think that's the opposite of the ending of the Molly Ringwald Pretty in Pink, right? Am I wrong? I'm trying to remember. Maybe I'm confusing all my endings. But he does bypass. Because I remember the blonde has that nice white sweater,
Starting point is 01:27:25 and he kind of brushes by her and goes straight to Boof. That's the right term. Well, you know, I'll tell you what. The fact that the school board was allowing a werewolf to play basketball against teams, that in itself is a thing that you have to wrap your head around. The fact that the drama teacher wanted a werewolf to be the lead in his school play.
Starting point is 01:27:49 It's still going, by the way. I'm sorry. I brought it down for you. There's a lot to wrap your head around. Teen Wolf 2, the fact that a werewolf is allowed to box high school students. We don't talk about Teen Wolf 2. Now it's like 2020 and there's hand sanitizer dispensers
Starting point is 01:28:05 in our school and meanwhile 25 years ago there was like yeah werewolves were playing basketball it's not for sale Francis was on the team as well yeah shoot it fat boy and he's in Peewee's Big Adventure
Starting point is 01:28:22 he's in Peewee's Big Adventure that guy and he's in Pee-wee's Big Adventure. He's in Pee-wee's Big Adventure, that guy. And he's in something else. Herman's Head. He's quite... We should go do a deep dive into that guy's career. Can I just make one general comment about this song in general? And I think of this with a lot of... It's just like...
Starting point is 01:28:40 There's so many 80s songs that sound like people trying to imitate David Bowie. Like the vocal effect here. Like it's just, it's cabin aside, but it's... I don't know. I have more of a problem with the fact that the Glory of Love, Peter Cetera's anthem that appeared in Karate Kid 2, put that soundtrack on the map, was panned by a guy who just played a fucking song from the basketball scene in Teen Wolf
Starting point is 01:29:03 that was not written for the basketball scene in Teen Wolf that was not written for the basketball scene in Teen Wolf. There's not a chance of that being true. No, hear me out. It's called Win in the End. It's so perfect. I feel it was written for Teen Wolf. I feel like they needed a song. And I always think about Win in the End the same way I think of You're the Best
Starting point is 01:29:19 by Joe Esposito. These are the songs that are playing. This song was not even written for a movie. It's just a song that they put in the movie. You don't know that. You don't know that. Find me evidence of that. I know that. So, this guy, Mark Savin, I don't think he had a great career, but
Starting point is 01:29:35 Did he? But, when he has to be Scott instead of the wolf, and they still win that game, and then he ends up with Booth, like when this song is playing, I the wolf, and they still win that game, and then he ends up with Booth. When this song is playing, I'm sorry, but to me, that was as great a moment
Starting point is 01:29:50 as when you're the best is playing, and Daniel's winning against Cobra Kai. How about when he's at Howard Hardware, and the kid is blowing the dog whistle, and it's really driving him mad? This is actually a serious question like did they they didn't allude to like him turning into a werewolf and then having sex with people did they like was it not like when he no he hooked up with the blondes right yeah he hooked
Starting point is 01:30:18 up with the blonde in the dressing room like that that's kind of like perverse like really if you think about that yeah it's probably illegal. I don't know. There's a lot of questionable things happening here. Is that bestiality? I don't know. Like this would be rich. The courts would have an interesting time.
Starting point is 01:30:32 Maybe ask Lauren Honigman next time. From a legal perspective. Lauren, if you were a man who turned into a werewolf and then had sex with somebody, is that bestiality? Mind you, this was in the 80s. It was a different time, a simpler time. The coach from the basketball coach in Teen Wolf,
Starting point is 01:30:52 I just picture that guy chewing his gum in a rolled up newspaper. He's got the hairy chest. Honest to God, if this movie came out as is today, I could not even imagine what the reaction would be like people would be so mortally offended by so much in this movie like take your
Starting point is 01:31:12 pick like all of it pretty much to put it in context this is a this is like uh peak michael j fox like we have uh the big three right there's back to the future teen wolf and secret of my success like i feel like it's like, whoa, so before like Day for Night. Now, if you would have played the song Secret of My Success, that would have been
Starting point is 01:31:31 a movie song that was written for a movie. How dare you chastise me for having Peter Cicero at Glory of Love and then making such a random, it's just ridiculous. It's not random, Stu.
Starting point is 01:31:42 It's ridiculous. It's the movie you've seen the most times in your life How is that random? This is like Come on Classic film Classic film
Starting point is 01:31:49 Teen Wolf is worth watching Before I play Cam Gordon's fourth jam When you do your imitation There, Stu Which is very good That whole Give me a keg of beer
Starting point is 01:31:58 You're supposed to do The tag at the end Where he does his normal voice And says And these And I think he puts Like gum on the table Or something Anyway You had to be there everybody was quite a quite a movie okay
Starting point is 01:32:09 what are you looking at dick nose i want to buy a t-shirt like that all right listen sir uh about the play uh you know i was kind of thinking I would just do it as myself and the drama teacher's like how do I put this kid no wolf no part Teen Wolf is the best and I don't even acknowledge Teen Wolf 2 Jason Bateman is no Michael J. Fox that's ridiculous
Starting point is 01:32:41 alright although Karate Kid 2 wasn't bad the thing that I do like about Teen Wolf 2 That's ridiculous. Although, Karate Kid 2 wasn't bad. I thought that was okay. The thing that I do like about Teen Wolf 2 is that it was one of those TOO sequels. Teen Wolf as well. That's the most memorable thing about it, to be honest. Like the poster.
Starting point is 01:32:58 I think Look Who's Talking also had Look Who's Talking as well. I can only think of those two films as the TOOs. had look who's talking as well like that's right yeah yeah i can only think of those two films as like the two the t-o-o twos yeah i feel like t-o-o sequels there must be more top five songs from t-o-o sequels that's next week okay here's another uh cam jam Those schoolgirl days Of telling tales and biting nails are gone But in my mind
Starting point is 01:33:47 I know they will Still live on and on But how do you thank someone Who has taken you from crayons to perfume. It isn't easy, but I'll try. If you wanted the sky, I would ride across the sky in letters. Wow. Okay. So this is the song to sir with love from the film of the same name, uh,
Starting point is 01:34:45 going, going back to 1967. Um, I guess the oldest track. I thought you think a fan goes, give me a thumbs down. I think she's just fighting with her cat. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:34:57 let's just ignore that. Um, are you guys, do you know this song by, by Lulu, the Scottish, uh, Shanta's of the, of the sixties. Have you guys, do you know this song by Lulu, the Scottish shuntas of the 60s?
Starting point is 01:35:07 Have you guys heard this? I feel like this is a pretty big song. Can I tell you? You've never seen The Breakfast Club, though. Never seen The Breakfast Club, no. Are your parents from England or something like that? Or do you have a grandparent from England? My grandmother, who's no longer with us,
Starting point is 01:35:25 she was a war bride, so she came to Canada. Did she bring this song, did she bring this with her, maybe, and play it for you? No, not really. I've never seen this movie either. I just know this song. This guy's picking songs from movies he's never seen.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Well, that was not a requirement. Yeah, that was not a requirement. Yeah, that was not a requirement. But it was to be answered. You can just calm down. I have a few words about To Serve With Love. I thought it was also of the times. Of course, this movie featured Sidney Poitier,
Starting point is 01:35:57 a great comment on race in the 1960s when you didn't see a lot of this in mainstream cinema. And Cam still hasn't seen it because he didn't see a lot of this in mainstream cinema and cam still hasn't seen it because he didn't watch the movie i i watched it i don't think cam likes movies like i don't think cam's a movie watching guy no yeah yeah i disagree with that have you ever seen star wars cam we've had this chat right have you seen star wars yeah anyway i have a few comments about this some fun facts i think you guys will like this, synopsis of the film since no one's seen it.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Idealistic engineer trainee and his experience in teaching a group of rambunctious white high school students in the slums of London's East End. Obviously, Sidney Poitier with one of his most famous roles, if not his most famous. of his most famous roles if not his most famous um the b-side of the single was a song called it's getting harder all the time by the mind benders who are most famous because they did the original for groovy kind of love that i feel like we might have been in that countdown at some point no um this song has been covered many times over the years from everyone from the jackson five to al green before being embraced by the alternative nation in the the 90s i don't recall either of these soul asylum covered it in their mtv unplugged special um and also i hope you guys remember the mtv rock and roll inaugural ball they used to do
Starting point is 01:37:19 like sort of rock the vote type shows yeah um apparently natalie merchant and michael stipe did a duet on this song uh fetting bill clinton i guess when he was inaugurated in 1993 oh yeah um and lulu like one of those artists who is like way bigger overseas than she was in north america uh many many many hits over the years at least in the uk including cover a cover of The Man Who Sold the World in 1974, the David Bowie song, obviously more famously later covered by Nirvana, and had a British number one hit as recently as 1993
Starting point is 01:37:54 when she did a song called Relight My Fire Would Take That, featuring Robbie Williams, the boy band that I don't think got much attention here, both massive massive in the UK. But he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I feel like if you were going to pick a song about a teacher going into uncharted territory to show kids a different perspective, you could have gone with Gangster's Paradise. But you didn't. I think that song kind of sucks.
Starting point is 01:38:26 So that's why I didn't watch it. Well, this was a great song. What do you guys think? Mike, Leifka, Femke? That's based on it. Gangster's Paradise is so heavily based on the Stevie Wonder jam. I wonder if that is... I guess that would be allowed in this situation. It's a little heavy-handed,
Starting point is 01:38:42 in my opinion. I thought this song was a bit more refined. I agree. You was a bit more refined. I agree. You're a big LV fan. It's very sweaty, so there's that. Yeah, LV, I forgot. Okay, so you're right.
Starting point is 01:38:58 Sorry, one more final comment about LV. Our friend, I was going to say friend of the show, more like friend of Sue Stoney, Paul Machine Gun Judson thought for about a year and a half that LV was
Starting point is 01:39:09 Luther Vandross. That would have been something. That would have been awesome if that was true. Yeah, anyway. Okay, Cam, you're right.
Starting point is 01:39:17 There was no explicit rule that said you had to have seen the movie. I guess I felt that might have been inferred. Like, I'm picking songs from movies I enjoyed and I enjoyed these songs
Starting point is 01:39:24 in the movie. I enjoyed 8 mile i enjoyed dead man walking i enjoyed uh teen wolf quite a bit and even those bonus jams i threw in there i enjoyed those movies and that will be the case for the rest of this but uh i find it interesting that you went back to 67 for this pretty obscure at least on this side of the pond pretty obscure song from a movie you haven't seen i find that interesting that's all i find it interesting well and by interesting by interesting he means crock of shit um okay so fuck you so there's that there's that i i actually i think i first became familiar with this song because it's featured i don't know if you guys watched this. Get a Life
Starting point is 01:40:06 with Chris Elliott? I watched it. Yeah, there was a scene in that where this was playing, I think Chris Elliott had gone back to school or something, and this song played in the background. I watched it. Appointment viewing for me. Loved it. That, of course, has the REM on the
Starting point is 01:40:22 I don't know what to watch. Stu is just raging. Raging. I think I can't decide which is more disgusting. You know, Mike picking a song from a basketball scene in a movie or Cam picking a song that may have played in the background of a 1990s Chris Elliott sitcom. From a film that may have played in the background of a 1990s Chris Elliott sitcom. From a film that is one of the great statements
Starting point is 01:40:48 on race relations. Meanwhile, you guys are shitting on Glory of Love where Daniel swept the leg or didn't sweep the leg. He was getting his leg swept. That was plucked off the scrap heap was abandoned
Starting point is 01:41:03 and then plucked out of the pounds of the song fucking straight movie. Plucked off the scrap heap, was abandoned, and then, like, you know, plucked out of the pounds, the pound of the songwriting. I got news for you. I got news for you. If you didn't like Glory of Love for that very reason, then you're not going to like my next selection. Okay, well. Alright, let's get to it. You're going to fucking hate my last one, so let's
Starting point is 01:41:20 give it a teaser. Before. Guaranteed you'll never heard it, too. Before, I just want to say before we leave, like I got to say the line from Karate Kid, the line I still think of all the time. And I believe the guy who said this line just passed away, but put him in a body bag.
Starting point is 01:41:37 That's the line. Put him in a body bag. Okay. And before I play this great epic jam that Stu Stone has picked, I do want to welcome back a returning sponsor. Did you guys ever come on Toronto Mic during the Pumpkins After Dark months? Like during the, I guess, September, October 2019? Did you get any complimentary tickets to Pumpkins After Dark?
Starting point is 01:42:00 I would have liked to have. I would have liked to have. Well, good news is it's coming back. And this time, though, like that back in 2019, this seems like a million years ago, you actually walked through Country Heritage Park in Milton
Starting point is 01:42:16 and, you know, in the night sky, you had all these like lit up jack-o'-lanterns and different statues and sculptures and stuff. But in this time of COVID, it's a drive-through event. You drive the 2.5 kilometers in the park, and there's 88 acres of stuff. Like, there's 150 jack-o'-lantern sculptures. There's 7,000 pumpkins. There's bigger sculptures than ever.
Starting point is 01:42:41 50-foot-long drive-through tunnel. Like, all this is going to be amazing. And soon... And we all get free tickets? Well, soon I'm going to have information for everybody and how they can save money on their tickets. And I'll have information on that as well. Stu Stone, of course.
Starting point is 01:42:55 So this is merely to welcome them back, pumpkins after dark, to let people know there will be Halloween this year. It might look different, but it's happening. Whether you like it or not, Halloween is coming back. Maybe Cam will rent a sprinter van and pack it up. Hey, there's a Juan sighting. I saw Juan on the Zoom.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Is he wearing a Taz? Is that a Taz shirt? Juan's always working out. I think he works out like 12 hours a day I think Look at that Look at him Honestly, Levi Fumka, do you know how fit he looks right now? Holy smokes
Starting point is 01:43:34 You know how she keeps him in shape Yeah, 11 years You know what, after 11 years you'd think he'd let himself go Grow the gut You know He looks great, be careful Levi He may be looking out for You know what? After 11 years, you'd think he'd let himself go. Grow the gut. He looks great. Be careful, Levi. He may be looking up for the next marriage.
Starting point is 01:43:50 She goes into Teen Wolf mode no doubt every night, all night. Sorry, that was creepy. Don't cap that. Let's go! I'll save Cam here. Oh my god. What epic opening chords here. What a jam. Oh my god, what epic opening chords here.
Starting point is 01:44:07 What a jam. Are you still trying to figure out what song this is, K? Yeah, no, I'm just throwing it off. I know what it is. Wow. Go big or go home, Stu says. I want to see you landing in the purple rain. Purple rain. Purple rain. Well, here you go. This is the Prince hit Purple Rain from the film Top Gun.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Love this song. I know you've never seen Top Gun, gun mike so you weren't aware that this is from the film top gun i get what you did you're very funny i think cam did a similar joke earlier that's why i'm not laughing at yours fair fair fair fair carlos bencia over here looks feeling the song uh purple rain by the print the purple one himself prints from the film Purple Rain you know I've never seen the movie you've never seen the movie well the soundtrack is better than the movie yeah but you know the movies the music in the
Starting point is 01:45:39 movie though is phenomenal the live performances you know you have Morris Day in the time and prince in the revolution doing all sorts of live performances so it's not that part of the movie is really great in apollonia you remember her um but uh yeah this is purple rain and interestingly enough it is uh from the film purple rain uh This is a song that is actually a live recording. Like the actual song you heard on the radio and in the movie is a live recording. I can't think, I'm sure there are lots of examples of that.
Starting point is 01:46:15 But, you know, Modest Yahoo, King Without a Crown comes to mind as a sort of popular song that was recorded from. Wait, what song? You guys don't know that song. What song? Maybe you don't. No, I totally remember that song. That was like a live recording and this is a live recording
Starting point is 01:46:30 and this is a pretty special live recording. And I know that Prince's band at the time, which consisted of Lisa and Wendy, if you remember his guitar player Wendy, she was like a 19-year-old sort of attractive woman who was playing guitar for him.
Starting point is 01:46:47 She actually brought this song to life in a lot of ways, according to the backstory. The song, and here's where things are going to get murky here. The song was originally, well, it was written for the movie Purple Rain, but originally it was written as a country song where he was
Starting point is 01:47:04 going to have a collaboration with Stevie Nicks Isn't that wild? He wanted to have him and Stevie Nicks sing this song together And he sort of had a country sort of twang to it Sent it to Stevie Nicks And according to her She felt overwhelmed by it And she said she listened to it
Starting point is 01:47:22 She got scared, called him and said I can't do it I wish I could but it's too much for me buy it and she said she she listened to it she got scared called him and said i can't do it uh i wish i could but it's too much for me uh and then uh you know prince didn't want to really let it go he went back and rehearsed the song with his band and that's when sort of wendy sort of took it from country to where it is now and apparently they had a six hour straight jam of the song which is evident by like the nate the length of the song in itself. This is like an 11-minute song or something, depending on what version you have. But they played the song for six hours straight, and by the end of
Starting point is 01:47:52 that session, they were ready to rock. He played till his fingers bled, right? I think this was probably back in the summer of 69. I remember that. Cam, I think, stormed off. He was so disgusted by the selection. I saw him, I think, stormed off. He was so disgusted by this selection. I saw him, like, whip off his headphones and march off.
Starting point is 01:48:10 Another fun fact, by the way, after recording the song, Prince phoned Jonathan Cain of Journey to ask him if this song sounded too close to the song Faithfully, which is a Journey song. And, of course, Cain came back and said, no, no, although they do share the same four chords, you're okay. This is a completely different song. That reminds me of when Kurt was worried that Smells Like Teen Spirit sounded too much like Boston's More Than a Feeling.
Starting point is 01:48:42 And he had concerns that it sounded too much like that. But yeah, it's interesting because you do hear a bit of the Faithfully in there, but I never thought of that until right now. Yeah, and Purple Rain, by the way, good choice not to make it that country duet. I think... But it's a sexy song. It's sort of like...
Starting point is 01:48:59 This is kind of the song I think that'll be playing tonight when Levi and Juan celebrate the 11th wedding anniversary. Oh, yes. Leva will be dancing in the purple rain. Wow. Prince. This is a guy.
Starting point is 01:49:15 I will say this. Oh, of course. I'm a little older than you guys. I lived the Prince era and appreciated his genius. But it wasn't until he died that I fully appreciated the genius. It took his death for me to kind of stop down and
Starting point is 01:49:31 do a deeper dive and listen to more Prince beyond the radio hits and realize how special this guy was. I suppose I could have chosen Back Dance, which Prince had written for the team, but we've already played that song, I believe, during Pandemic Fridays. But seeing Prince live is an experience that I will treasure
Starting point is 01:49:51 forever. I've seen him a few times, but one of the best live performers I've ever witnessed. And I've seen Michael Jackson. He's great too, obviously. But Prince is a different level of great. I mean, this is a consummate entertainer. He sings, he dances, he does the splits. He's wearing eight-inch high-heeled boots and somehow moving around. And he plays the guitar like he shreds. He can sing well. The songs have a familiarity to them, you know, depending on which Prince era you're listening to. He sort of stays in his lane to a certain kind of sound and then he evolves.
Starting point is 01:50:24 Obviously, his later stuff was a little bit more controversial. He wore the assless pants to the award show that year. But, you know, Purple Rain Prince is the best Prince, in my opinion. Dude, remind us, when did you see Michael Jackson? This was like the Jackson's... Yeah, the Jackson's victory tour. 1984, maybe? 84? It would have been 85
Starting point is 01:50:45 exhibition stadium yeah my mom was wild he never played in toronto solo like i don't know like it's i guess he just didn't tour that much as a solo artist or just go to europe and stuff it is kind of mind-blowing that he didn't play like yeah i don't know air canada he was he would also like didn't really do arena tours. Yeah. Michael Jackson sort of just did stadiums overseas, it feels like. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 01:51:12 I like the slow end, too. You're right, this is the longer version we have here. And I like this. It kind of brings you out slowly from Purple Rain here. There's no hard stop here. It's... slowly from Purple Rain here. There's no hard stop here. You can talk over it because this is going to go for another minute and five seconds
Starting point is 01:51:34 and I refuse to shut it down. Great song. Great choice. There are a few examples, I guess, of soundtracks that are better than the movie. Karate Kid 2, probably. Judgment Night? Yeah, that's a great soundtrack.
Starting point is 01:51:53 Probably the best. Yeah, I agree. This came up on Twitter, actually. Somebody said, name a better soundtrack than Pulp Fiction, which I love the Pulp Fiction soundtrack. And somebody tweeted, I think T.O. Resident tweeted at me that based on what he's heard on Pandemic Fridays, I would probably
Starting point is 01:52:10 go with Judgment Night and Singles because those are two soundtracks. Yeah, Singles was awesome. Singles is not... I've never seen the movie Singles, but... It's not bad. It's of its time. It's not a great movie. I don't think it has a reputation reputation for being like a cinematic tour de force
Starting point is 01:52:26 no but the soundtrack is incredible alright so here's another speaking of soundtracks I guess that is the theme today songs written for the movies and appearing on the soundtracks so not like the Peter Cetera glory of love but here is a jam I almost played during the
Starting point is 01:52:42 duets episode of the guys and dolls or whatever we called it episode of pandemic Friday I almost played it the duets episode of the guys and dolls or whatever we called it episode of Pandemic Friday. I almost played it then but I'm going to play it now because I love it so much. I don't know you, but I want you all the more for that Words fall through me and always fool me And I can't react Games that never amount
Starting point is 01:53:35 To more than they're meant Will play themselves out. Take their St. Kimball and pour it home. We've still got time. Raise your hopeful voice You have the choice You've made it now Okay.
Starting point is 01:54:18 This is Falling Slowly. And this is from Once, which I would call that a charming as all hell, super charming film from 2007. Who are we hearing here? The stars of the movie, Glenn Hansard and Marketa Erglova, which I think I might have nailed, actually. Somebody give me a round of applause there.
Starting point is 01:54:44 I think I nailed it but which doesn't happen too often and does anyone else on the zoom have any thoughts on this what I think is a particularly beautiful duet that I first heard in the movie once
Starting point is 01:55:00 I feel like this song comes up a lot because Mike correct me if I'm wrong this was a Mike Boone wedding song. I'll be right back. Oh, he asks the tough questions and then he gets the fuck out of Dodge. No, actually, not a wedding song
Starting point is 01:55:16 at any of my weddings, but could have been. I really like it. It should have been maybe. Stu, have you ever seen the movie Once? You know, it's a podcast. Shaking the head is, it can't be heard.
Starting point is 01:55:31 Shakes his head. No, I haven't seen the movie. And I feel like, you know, I feel like, you know, Cam hasn't seen Breakfast Club, but I feel like Breakfast Club is probably more required viewing. But I'd like to hear more about it.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Well, it's a great, great movie. I'm telling you. And it's one of those low, it's just two people. It's kind of a musical, but like I said, very charming movie. I don't think it costs very much
Starting point is 01:55:52 to make this movie. I gravitate. I personally, my taste is such, I would rather see a movie once than one of the, I don't know, a movie,
Starting point is 01:56:01 a Marvel movie. Oh, 100%. I'm in the same boat as you. I don't watch those epics. I've never seen,'t know, a movie, some Marvel, a Marvel movie. A hundred percent. I'm in the same boat as you. I don't watch those epics. I've never seen, you know, I don't watch the Marvel movies. I haven't seen a Harry Potter movie. I haven't seen a Lord of the Rings movie, but I would see these independent type of movies.
Starting point is 01:56:16 So just, I'll put it on my list of things to check out. I vaguely remember this song though, because I think they performed it at the Oscars that year, if I'm not mistaken. I feel like this was maybe even one best song, did it? Yeah, it won the 2008 Academy Award for Best Original Song.
Starting point is 01:56:34 Yes, absolutely. And the soundtrack got a Grammy Award nomination as well. And people might not have seen the movie once but they might know that it was made into a musical I believe. I feel like Once has been made into a musical i feel like it was in toronto like there was like yeah of course uh this evening uh leva famka will be uh making her own movie called once i don't know what to say about that. It's not that clever.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Like once, but once. Once too. You're going to do once. Like once, but like J-U-A-N-C-E. We got there. It's like one of those bad jokes where there's some guy named
Starting point is 01:57:22 Jose and he's at the ball game and he's like, how'd you like the game? And he's like, oh, they were so considerate. They said, Jose, can you see? It's like one of those bad jokes. No, my... My bad joke was much better. Well, I didn't set mine
Starting point is 01:57:38 up right because I didn't have time. Oh, I just see now on the wiki pages I popped over that they reprised their roles, Glenn Hansard and Marketa Urglova, on an episode of The Simpsons. This must be during the many seasons I haven't enjoyed yet. I'm sort of like a, I bought the DVDs for the first 10 years of The Simpsons. So the first 10 seasons I have on DVD and I know them intimately. And I kept watching.
Starting point is 01:58:03 I watched for another five or six years but then at some point I fell off like 16 years in. I didn't realize it was only at its half-life. I didn't know that I was going to miss half of The Simpsons. Sorry, this is a stupid question. The Simpsons, is it on the Disney
Starting point is 01:58:19 streaming service now or is it still on Fox? No, it's on Disney Plus, whatever that's called yes yeah i think that's as risque as they get on disney plus as the simpsons and that's where the great controversy is because the first bunch of seasons of the simpsons of course are in standard uh whatever the aspect ratio is five four three what is it four three whatever the aspect ratio is for the the sd stuff and they've made it uh the the the full screen they've done for disney so there is some animation that you don't get to see because it's off in the side so
Starting point is 01:58:53 it's great controversy controversy amongst the sentence speaking of speaking of controversy i don't think that kim allowed his cup of noodles enough time in the heated water. I mean, I just heard the thing fucking whistle that the water was hot, and he's already noodling up. Don't you have to wait like three minutes for that thing to settle in? Much like this episode, I'm just agitating the noodles
Starting point is 01:59:18 just to get them kind of salted up. What is the recommended time? Because every morning I start the day with a French press coffee. I get the water to 100 degrees and then I mix it up with the coarse grounds. It's got to be there
Starting point is 01:59:34 for at least five minutes. Sometimes when there's no time, you want to grab it after a minute or two. But you've got to wait the five minutes or whatever. It seems like Cameron... I'm a busy man. I don't have time to wait for these noodles to steep. I think that it would be very nice
Starting point is 01:59:51 to have a French-pressed coffee in person at a Toronto Mic recording in the future. Come to my backyard. I would rather do these in my backyard. You know, you think I want to be... Yeah, like... This could be a...
Starting point is 02:00:07 Yeah, Stu, like, Toronto Mike and I were talking. Maybe we do a Pandemic Fridays Thursday night edition coming up, live from the backyard. I'd totally be down with that. Yeah, I can set it up
Starting point is 02:00:19 so that we're all easily six feet apart. Well, we'll discuss it. But either way, French press coffee sounds delish. It's the only way to go, my friend. What flavor do you suppose Cam's eating? Can we take a guess there? Do you think it's chicken? Do you think it's shrimp?
Starting point is 02:00:34 It's chicken. Is it more of a beef? It's chicken. I'm going to go with shrimp. Okay, so ladies and germs, I have the next jam ready to go for Cam, but he sent me a link to a YouTube and I'm only now looking at it in my player
Starting point is 02:00:50 and I see the waveform. It's very much very low, so please listen closely. I'm going to jack it up as much as I can. I did say jack it up here. We're going to jack it up as much as I can, but this will be a little bit quieter than normal. I apologize in advance. Here it is. But it is potato quality here, so.
Starting point is 02:01:14 Is this the sound of silence? Just listen closely. Just listen closely. In the isle of Cape Breton My father did stay And his father's father before Fishing the banks and digging the coals From the mines that don't give no more ore And I'm going down the road. Seeking what I hold, boys.
Starting point is 02:02:15 And I know it must get better. Far enough I go. Before we never go Okay, so this is a bit of can-con to end off my selections. Going Down the Road by Bruce Coburn. From the film of the same... I feel like almost all my jams are the exact same name as the movie, which was not coincidence, but kind of worked out that way. So this is from 1970.
Starting point is 02:02:51 I mean, this is really early Bruce Coburn, who's still kind of an unknown at the time. Mike, this is even before he hooked up with FOTM Bernie Finkelstein. That's how old this is. A man who was very instrumental in bringing Bruce Coburn to the masses. Have you guys seen this movie? A real sort of. I saw it on city TV.
Starting point is 02:03:13 And there's a person in this movie who is a future FOTM because he's hooked me up with her number and I'm going to get her on. Jane Eastwood is in this movie. Wow. Very cool. Yeah. Yeah. Who I've worked with many times on the wayne and schuster show and there you go i i figured stew would have some
Starting point is 02:03:32 interaction with some of the people who are in this film and she was kind of from what i recall like the love interest uh that was spotted looking at mostly like stan gets records or something. Like she was at the old Sam, the record man, when the two gentlemen from Cape Breton, um, where we're kind of like soaking up the big city nights. This is where, uh, this is where my brain goes to SCTV.
Starting point is 02:03:57 Do you remember the SCTV parody of this? I, I, I've never seen an episode of SCTV, but I did read about that on the Wikipedia page wow I know this is ironic
Starting point is 02:04:11 because literally five days ago I'm telling you all about my neighbor Jerry Salzberg growing up and how he was in Godspell with Joe Flaherty and Andrew Martin yeah I've never seen SCTV either but I did read about that on Wikipedia so there's that and Andrew Martin. Yeah. Yeah, I've never seen SCDV either,
Starting point is 02:04:26 but I did read about that on Wikipedia, so there's that. Anyway, this song is, I think this is a great song. It's very haunting. The film is great. Hearing the song and just watching a couple of clips from it
Starting point is 02:04:40 from YouTube made me want to go back and watch it. I've seen it a few times over the years. Like a real piece of Canadian cinema, like very kind of low budget, but a great film for just seeing Toronto of the early, early, early 70s. It was probably been filmed in the late 60s, I imagine, because the film came out in 1970.
Starting point is 02:04:57 So it's probably like 69. What's the film called? Going Down the Road. Going Down the Road. It's a Canadian classic. And the parody on SCTV might be even more famous actually now but I will say yeah if you want to see that early 70s
Starting point is 02:05:12 Toronto that Yonge Street you know that you know that this movie captures it pretty perfectly like it's pretty like and I'm sure there's not that much just footage of like CD Yonge Street anywhere and even though this was sort of within the context of like ad young street anywhere and even though this was sort of within the context of like a scripted movie um it's a real time capsule there's actually like a
Starting point is 02:05:29 good article that's still out there from uh the torontoist which is now i think daily hype toronto right but there's an old torontoist article that has about like 50 screenshots from this movie and just saying where everything is and what it became it's it's a real like time capsule of a certain era the film is like mildly depressing but i mean it's sort of a classic canadian story it i've seen references to it being like the grapes of wrath of canada uh and not to be mistaken with the the band the grapes of wrath of course about you know two guys coming from like you know small town east coast trying to find cape red and glory and work yeah cape red and not even glory just work in toronto and uh just the big city basically chewing them up spitting them out
Starting point is 02:06:16 like it's i don't know okay it's a bit of a cynical film but uh yeah i i think it's great i think it's great too and two things here one is that um the grapes of wrath opened for the watchman when i saw him at the danforth music hall last fall so it all comes back to sammy cone who uh was great on last week's pandemic friday and james edgar who uh stew has named himself after after on the Zoom call. Make sure we get a picture before we all go. James Edgar, you said he was in Police Academy 1, right? So that's another movie where you get,
Starting point is 02:06:52 and that's early 80s, I guess, but you get, especially in my hood where I'm living, I'm right beside where the Commandant Lessard and the Police Academy, they were at the Humber College South Campus, which I could walk to. And there's even scenes in Police Academy 1 where they're the nearest
Starting point is 02:07:09 intersection to me. They're driving by and I can see Lakeshore out here in the West End here. Anyway, so... Did you ever see the movie Half-Baked? Are you kidding me? Have you ever sucked dick from marijuana? Is that the
Starting point is 02:07:25 Rolling with Saget soundbite? I loved Half-Baked. There's lots of Yung Street in that movie. I think they get a horse stoned in front of the Pizza Pizza across from Sam the Record Man. You're right. Quick, I shared
Starting point is 02:07:41 on Twitter last week the Rolling with Saget video. And I think it blew a lot of people's minds who now think of Stu Stone. I didn't even know that you shared that. Well, you had other things going on, my friend. But the fact some people know Stu Stone as the Pandemic Friday funny guy
Starting point is 02:07:58 who's been in different things. But some people saw that for the first time and their minds were blown because it's really good. Like it's great production value. Stu Stone, Jamie Kennedy, and you bring in Bob Saget. It's like, I think that is such an amazing, if that was all you did, Stu Stone,
Starting point is 02:08:15 I would be honored to have you on Toronto Mic'd. Featuring George Lucas in the music video. Right. It's a legit great song. Like it's, it's sort of like we, like we listened to this a couple of weeks ago, check the OR where it's,
Starting point is 02:08:29 you know, it's kind of like a playful song, but then you listen to it. It's like, this is actually a great song. Yeah. You know, funny or not.
Starting point is 02:08:34 So guys, go to you. Produced, produced and co-written by a decisive who I've named, dropped him a few times. Derek, right. Toronto.
Starting point is 02:08:42 Derek Kristoff. Yeah. Uh, well, listening to that last song and it made me wish and I wrote to you privately, Mike, but I wish I would have picked
Starting point is 02:08:49 Tree's Lounge by Hayden because that is a great song that's better than the movie. Yes, for sure. Is Hayden going to be at your... Maybe a future, you know, because we're doing all these movies, maybe there'll be a sequel
Starting point is 02:09:02 to this topic that will allow us to listen to the great Treerees Lounge, which is not available anywhere. You can't stream the song. You know what? We could do songs from movies that are way better than the movie. Is Hayden going to be tomorrow night or is it tonight? When are you guys hooking up with your high school buddies? It's going to be tomorrow night.
Starting point is 02:09:23 Yeah, Hayden will be there. John Gomeshi is going to make an appearance. Are both Haydens going to be there? Hayden Desser and Hayden Christensen? Well, Hayden Christensen actually went to Thornhill High School, so he's technically not. No, you've got that wrong, I think.
Starting point is 02:09:41 I check Wikipedia. I mean, Stu Stone's on Wikipedia as a famous alum. Fair, I'll check Wikipedia. I mean, Stu Stone's on Wikipedia as a famous alum. Fair. I'll take it. Some of the Moxie Fruvis guys will be there. And Murray. I wish.
Starting point is 02:09:55 Yeah, the golf club. I wish I had... The muffins will be there. Depending on whether he can recover from tonight's events, Juan might be making an appearance. He may be exhausted, though. He might be there. Depending on whether he can recover from tonight's events, Juan might be making an appearance. He may be exhausted, though. He might be exhausted.
Starting point is 02:10:10 Well, that's why he's in good shape, so he can handle it. Okay, so I just wish I had saved Pumpkins After Dark to play right now because it would tie in nicely with this jam, which got my six-year-old very excited when he heard me loading it up the other day. But here is Stew Stone's final jam. But stay tuned for a mind-blowing fun fact that everybody knows. Here it comes. All right. If there's something strange in your neighborhood, who you gonna call?
Starting point is 02:11:07 Ghostbusters! Alright, I mean, let's talk about Ghostbusters. Obviously, we love the movie. But this is the song, Ghostbusters. Clearly written for the film. It would be pretty odd if there was a song called Ghostbusters that had nothing to do with the film. But this is interesting. Filmmakers originally approached
Starting point is 02:11:32 Lindsey Buckingham to write the song for Ghostbusters. Wow. Based on the success of Holiday Road from the National Lampoon movies, which you heard earlier. But Lindsey Buckingham said, no, thank you. I've already done my soundtrack offering.
Starting point is 02:11:48 I don't want to become another Kenny Loggins and be shoehorned as the soundtrack guy. So Lindsey Buckingham passed, which had them approach another artist who we'll get to in a second, who also passed on the song. who also passed on the song, they landed somehow on Ray Parker Jr. And they played him a song from the other artist that they had offered it to. And he sort of took that song, ripped it off, and made Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters was nominated for the Academy Award
Starting point is 02:12:18 for Best Original Song, but lost to Stevie Wonder's I Just Called to Say I Love You, which I don't even know what movie that was in. So I guess it was written for a movie. I Just Called to Say I Love You, which I don't even know what movie that was in. So I guess it was written for a movie. I Just Called to Say I Love You. Lady in Red, maybe, or something like that. Some mid-'80s forgettable thing, yeah. I'm not really sure, but the music video for this song
Starting point is 02:12:38 was one of those rare moves where you sometimes see it, but the music video was directed by Ivan Reitman, the same guy who directed the Ghostbusters film, and it featured just a star-studded cast in the music video, including Chevy Chase, Irene Cara, John Candy, Melissa Gilbert,
Starting point is 02:12:56 Jeffrey Tambor, George Wendt, Al Franken, Danny DeVito, Carly Simon, Columbo himself, Peter Falk, Terry gar oh you know you know who's who of uh celebrities student in your research one thing i never understood what did any of these people have to do with ghostbusters like these are just famous people of the famous people right uh famous people of the era and and and Parker Jr. claims he came up with the idea for the
Starting point is 02:13:25 catchy chorus. He was up late watching infomercials and he got the idea of like, who are you going to call? Ghostbusters from like, you know, uh-oh, better get Mako type of thing. Or better call Saul. Yeah. So, there you go. Ghostbusters
Starting point is 02:13:41 and we can shorten this up and just blow some minds right off the bat if you want, Mike. Let me just let you know, the movie that featured I Just Called to Say I Love You was The Woman in Red. So I was very close. Okay, let's blow some minds. If you listen closely to this Ghostbusters song, you may want to understand why there was a lawsuit involving this mind blow, which might not be a mind blow to many. I want a new drug. When the wall made me sick. When the wall made me crash my car. And make me feel free, free, free.
Starting point is 02:14:30 I want a new drug. So while you play this, Huey Lewis in the news, I want a new drug. Huey Lewis passed on the Ghostbusters song because he was already contractually obligated to do songs for Back to the Future, which turned out to be quite successful for Huey Lewis, doing all those Power of Love and Back
Starting point is 02:14:52 in Time songs. Interestingly enough, we just counted down 15 jams and didn't play the song from Back to the Future. We didn't play any Kenny Loggins songs, so we're going to have to at least get a Huey Lewis song in here. Obviously, this is so have to at least get a Huey Lewis song in here. Obviously, this is so fascinating to me.
Starting point is 02:15:11 They literally, Ray Parker had some balls because literally they offered the gig to Huey Lewis. They played I Want a New Drug to Ray Parker as an example of a Huey Lewis song. And he basically ripped it off and did Ghostbusters with the same bass line, same notes, same everything. Ray Parker Jr. ends up getting sued by Huey Lewis and loses. I believe the settlement was for
Starting point is 02:15:31 $5 million, which is a ton of money at the time. So Huey Lewis is the one who made the money on the Ghostbusters song, not Ray Parker. And here is the most interesting fact of them all. Huey Lewis appeared in an interview in 2000-something and revealed the fact that he was paid,
Starting point is 02:15:49 I think it was $5 million as a settlement, and breached the nondisclosure agreement of the lawsuit, and Ray Parker Jr. sued Huey Lewis back for breaking the NBA regarding the lawsuit and ended up getting money back from Huey Lewis. So what a fascinating lawsuit song story where
Starting point is 02:16:12 Huey Lewis sued, he won money then had to pay the guy that sued him because he breached the NBA by revealing how much money was given. It's like a Seinfeld episode. It's like Ray Parker Jr. then had to become Huey Lewis' butler or something.
Starting point is 02:16:27 Right. Sorry, a bit of an aside. We haven't talked much wrestling today. Just when you said, oh, it would be weird if this song was not written for the movie called Ghostbusters, didn't Coco beware his finishing off movie used to be the Ghostbuster? Yeah, it was the Ghostbuster.
Starting point is 02:16:44 What did it have to do with ghosts? Like, I could use it as like the bird brain or the bird buster or something like that. The move is really the brain buster. But for some reason they called it the Ghostbuster. Maybe because the movie Ghostbusters was so popular. I suppose I could have chosen
Starting point is 02:16:59 the Bobby Brown anthem on our own or whatever it was called. I guess we're gonna. Too hot to handle. Too cold to hold. The Ghostbusters are in control. You know it. Yeah, Ghostbusters.
Starting point is 02:17:16 Great movie, Bill Murray. I can't think of another Ray Parker Jr. song. All I can think of is Ghostbusters. I was going to ask if there was another one. Had to choose it as number one, but I think there are so many great songs for films that we could definitely do a sequel down the road, assuming the pandemic continues.
Starting point is 02:17:35 But, you know, by then the show just might be called Regular Life Fridays. Hopefully. Yeah. Ivan Reitman, by the way, I think I've dropped this fun fact every time his name came up, but he was the keynote speaker at my convocation when I graduated university. Ivan Reitman.
Starting point is 02:17:51 Wow. Shout out to my buddy. Yeah. I was going to say, you know, Huey Lewis and the News, one of their final performances was in Canada at Niagara Falls falls casino a few years ago i went to the show uh but shortly thereafter huey lewis was forced to retire from music uh due to he lost his voice and he lost like his inner ear sort of hearing went out and he can no longer sing and that's kind of sad we have seen other artists make comeback attempts with that same ailment.
Starting point is 02:18:27 Phil Collins comes to mind. Keith Townsend had like tinnitus ongoing. What about Meatloaf? Yeah. I don't remember Meatloaf, but I know Phil Collins like sort of went away in the year 2000 after he could no longer perform. But then he came back. He can't play the drums anymore, but he came back. So maybe we'll get a comeback from Huey Lewis. I hope we do.
Starting point is 02:18:52 How was that show, Stu? I almost feel like they're almost underrated. Huey Lewis was a big fucking deal in the 80s. I really want the artist of the decade. I found it to be a great show. The songs were amazing but the issue i had with the venue which was at the niagara falls casino uh was it's a dry venue
Starting point is 02:19:13 and it's got hard seats so everybody's in there sitting in like movie theater style seats and nobody's sort of up and dancing and there's nobody drinking. You can't bring drinks into the auditorium type of place, which is really bizarre. You can't drink a water in there. Uh, yeah, they don't allow food and drink in the auditorium there. So it was a pretty bizarre sort of experience,
Starting point is 02:19:37 but Huey Lewis in the news put on a great job, obviously. And Huey was doing his, you know, he played, they played their gamut of hits and, you know, uh, you know, he was never the coolest guy in music by any means. But I feel like he overachieved in a lot of ways.
Starting point is 02:19:51 They were sort of like a nerdy kind of outfit that sort of became cool because of maybe Back to the Future. But I remember him, you know, in We Are the World amongst like the superstar contemporaries at the time. And Huey definitely stood out in that song. And I remember, you know, if this is it, do up. And they're like in the beach with like Barry to their heads. Huey Lewis and they sort of never took themselves so seriously. And they had a nice run. Sports is a classic album.
Starting point is 02:20:18 And of course, we've seen the movie American Psycho, you know, that I think Christian Bale's character loves hip to be square, if I'm not mistaken. Yes. Okay, so one more jam to go, guys. We're almost there. We're going to kick out my final jam right now. Just want to say that when I think of Huey Lewis and the News, I think they're kind of like America's version of Doug and the Slugs.
Starting point is 02:20:38 Right, Cam? One thousand percent. Absolutely. Here's my final jam. Oh, so we sort of mentioned this song earlier. I love this song. I think this is the funkiest old hell. This is the song, by the way, that inspired the topic.
Starting point is 02:21:07 I was biking and I was thinking about this song. And I was thinking how this song was created for a movie. And it's so iconic. When they did a remake of the movie, they didn't even have to change the song. It held up. It's just so awesome and funky. It's also the theme song, Leave a Famke enters the song. It held up. It's just so awesome and funky. Isaac. It's also the theme. The theme song,
Starting point is 02:21:25 leave a famka enters the bedroom to the boudoir live on Periscope. I can't wait. Give it a few more seconds here. Best use of Wawa pedals since the three's company thing. With a funky trance. I'll predate that, that's for sure. Just funky, man.
Starting point is 02:21:54 It's the Isaac Hayes, right? Yes. Some good jazz flute in this. And I like how it's not in any rush to get there. It's going to kind of brew slowly like a good French press coffee. okay so we're going back i was just gonna say why don't we do the photo before I forget, by the way? Do you guys think I look like Bea Arthur?
Starting point is 02:23:07 A little bit, yeah. Handsome woman. This one time in St. Olaf. I just think back to those great shoppers drug mark commercials we used to have when I was a kid. Oh, yeah. Iconic.
Starting point is 02:23:22 Was Stu Stone in one of those shoppers drug Mart commercials? Hold on. Who's the black, private dick that's a sex machine to all the chicks? You're damn right.
Starting point is 02:23:41 Isn't that also like funny that the character, there's something so sexually about this song, even though it's about this badass ass kicker, but the fact that they named the character Shaft is, you know, it's not very subtle. I can dig it. So, Stu, tell us what you did with Bea Arthur in the Shopper's Drug Mart ads.
Starting point is 02:24:01 you did with B. Arthur in the Shoppers Drug Mart ads? Well, it was Shoppers Drug Mart was celebrating its 50th anniversary or 40th anniversary or whatever it was. And I played young David Bloom, who was the
Starting point is 02:24:17 CEO or the president of Shoppers Drug Mart at the time. They were sort of telling the story of how he came up with Shoppers Drug Mart. So I was him and I was walking with my mother. Well, I believe it'd be Arthur maybe, but I'm not sure. I don't remember. Sorry, is this a work or a shoot that's actually happened?
Starting point is 02:24:34 It's a shoot. Oh, yeah, this is a shoot. Wow. A big shoot. Wow. So, yeah, I was in the Shoppers Drug Mart, sort of whatever that was. Amazing, amazing. And so, anything to say?
Starting point is 02:24:50 Maybe we just drop the mic. Isaac Hayes, the theme from Shaft. This is from 1971. It sounds as good today as it did then. Funky as all hell. Just great stuff, man. I love it. So, this is the song that I was thinking of on a bike ride when I thought about this topic.
Starting point is 02:25:05 The origin. The circle is complete now. I feel like Isaac Hayes, he's great background music too because all his songs are so long. He has so many 12-minute versions. You know the song I Stand Accused
Starting point is 02:25:21 by Isaac Hayes? You ever hear it? I'm going to have to go listen to some Isaac Hayes? You ever hear? He's on, we have to go listen to some Isaac Hayes. I know chocolate salty balls. Of course,
Starting point is 02:25:29 he resurrected his popularity with the South Park chef voice. He was great as the chef. Yeah, remember,
Starting point is 02:25:38 he's a Scientologist, he's passed away now, but he was a Scientologist and he objected to content, if I remember, something there, there's a story where he objected to content. If I remember, I thought something there, there's something,
Starting point is 02:25:45 there's a story where he objected to some content on, uh, on South Park and there was some disagreement, but I can't remember the details. So don't pretend I didn't say anything, but Stu glad to have you back, my friend. Uh, it's been a rough go for you and I hope that this made you feel a little, uh, more like Stu. Yeah. I feel like yelling at you and Cam for your awful picks made me feel a lot better about myself.
Starting point is 02:26:10 And, you know, thinking about the great time that Liva, Famke and Juan are going to have this evening also brings a smile to my face. Stu wins again. So I wish them all the best as they celebrate 11 years of marriage. Wow. And of course, I love to you, Toronto Mike, and to the Floss, the friends of Stew Stone. But people who are friends of Toronto Mike's show have reached out and I appreciate it. And I'm back and I'll be back again next week.
Starting point is 02:26:41 Not to worry, barring some unforeseen circumstances, God forbid. But I will be here and we'll be kicking out jams, helping you get through this pandemic. And Cam, thank you for being here again. You're the straight man to Stu's zaniness, and we need you, so very good. Sure. Happy to play that role.
Starting point is 02:27:02 And Levi Fumka, you can never judge again, but you're welcome on these shows anytime. It was a pleasure to have you there. Happy anniversary to you. And that hypothetically speaking, though, she did say that
Starting point is 02:27:14 I won this episode. So hypothetically, you know, in a world where she would be allowed to judge, she would have given me the win. She's ineligible with Breakfast Club. That was
Starting point is 02:27:24 it. Thank you. Thank you. This won with Breakfast Club. That was it. Thank you. Thank you. Love you. This is why she's been banned from judging. And that brings us to the end of our 684th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike.
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