Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Myles Goodwyn: Toronto Mike'd #845

Episode Date: May 7, 2021

Mike chats with Myles Goodwyn about April Wine, getting snubbed by the Junos, going solo and what he's up to now.

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He's the real estate agent who's ripping up the Mimico real estate scene. Learn more at realestatelove.ca. I'm Mike from torontomike.com and joining me this week is April Wines, Miles Goodwin. Hi, Miles. Yes. It's Toronto Mike here. How are you doing? I'm okay.

Are you in Toronto? Yes. I know the phone number says I'm not, but I'm in Toronto. Yeah, I know. I just tried to call you back. I missed your call. I left my phone in the car when I just arrived from picking up my partner at the dentist. And I came into the house and I said, oh, geez, where's my phone?

And I went out to see I missed your call. So I'm sorry about that. Hey, no worries. And I know originally we were going to do this on Zoom, but I understand phone is better for you. Yeah, I can't be in one spot for a Zoom, hardly ever. You know, I just, like we're moving, like actually we moved from a house, my place where I've lived here for 25 years in the Montreal area,

and I moved back to Nova Scotia where I'm from. We're up here in Montreal just to be able to finalize the sale. Every day is all about this. I just don't have time for Zooms right now, unfortunately. But as I said to Eric, my publicist, I said, if anybody wants to call me, I'll stop what I'm doing. I'll pull over to the side of the road. I'll do anything to accommodate. I just can't do Zoom right now. My days are unpredictable. This is more important than anything right now that I get this house on the market and

get the hell back to Nova Scotia, to be honest with you. Do you have a half an hour for me right now? Half an hour? 30 minutes um well uh that's a long what are we talking about here well my friend i uh i take it you didn't get the uh the toronto mic briefing so typically these episodes are a lot longer than a half an hour but if i could do a half an hour where i basically just grill you with some questions i'm going to add the music and post and basically of course i want to talk, of course, I want to talk about April Wine. I want to talk about the new album, basically. Maybe just roll with me.

And then when you get fed up with me, let me know. Is that cool? Let me just plug my phone in. Okay. Because I hope they get a last 30 minutes. Yeah, okay. Well, man, let's just do this. I do not mean to be difficult.

I'm just like really kind of up to my, you know, to my head and other stuff right now, completely unrelated to music, but I'm sitting now in a very comfortable chair. Okay. I got my feet up on an ottoman. All right, so... Let's do this.

All right, so get ready to, you know, go in the time machine, Miles, and then we'll bring us up to speed. And again, I got some great jams I'm going to play. Everybody loves what you're doing on the music front. But the first question, as if you've never been asked before, but I'm going to credit listener Mike Gregotsky with this question because he sent it in.

He wants me to ask you about the origins of your band name. I'm talking about April Wine. Where did the name April Wine come from? Well, one of the fellows in the original band came up with the name, and it doesn't mean anything, and that was the purpose of the name um because we were four writers we're actually coming from four different places i was more of a rocky blues and some of the other guys were more experimental another fellow was more into acoustic stuff so we just you know he just said why don't we get a name that doesn't mean anything at all you know like led zeppelin implies heavy black sabbath you know it's like but but April wine doesn't really mean anything. And

so that was the idea. I never really cared for the song at the title of the name of the band at the time, but you know, it wasn't a big whoop for me, you know, either way. So, uh, that's, that's the origin. I mean, sometimes it was, it was really odd in the early days. We would literally check into a hotel somewhere, a motel somewhere, and they would want to know where she is. Like, okay, I have a reservation for April Wine. Is she here now? We say, yeah, that's us. You know, but anyway, once, you know, it doesn't matter what you call a band.

It just depends on what you do with the group, right? Now April Wine makes a lot of sense. Much better. And now, of course, yeah, like now when we think April Wine, we think great jams, right? So now that I've got you kind of jogging your memory back to the name origin, give us a taste of what it was like when you started the band, and I guess I'm curious what it was like

up to the release of Could Have Been a Lady. Maybe just share some memories of those days starting the band. Well, we got together in in 1969 and we worked we we all get together here down Halifax Nova Scotia there were three Henman's or two brothers David and Richie and then there was a cousin Jim Edmund and myself and myself. I don't remember exactly what month we first got together, but it was in the summer or the fall. By April 1st, we left

Nova Scotia for Montreal. During that first period that we were together, we just did some local shows down in Halifax. And one of the things that was important to me when they came to me and asked me to be part of the group was that we write our own material. I was tired of playing in cover bands. And they said, okay, we'll do our own material. We went forward with that.

Then we came up to Montreal, like I said, on April 1st, 1970 and met up with some people that we would be associated with for a very long time. That was Aquarius Records and Terry Flood Management and a company called Promotivations

with Bob Lamb and so forth. So we kind of settled into Montreal. We didn't intend to, but just when we got here, there was so much going on for us at that time that we just became a band based out of Montreal for years and years and years. And then we got our first record deal in 71

and released our very first record, which had a hit in Canada called Fast Train, which I wrote. And then the following album in 72 had You Could Have Been a Lady, which was a cover of a Hot Chocolate, the band Hot Chocolate, the cover of what it was. I'm going to be a little lady. Could have been sweet as wine Could have been a lady Could have been alright

Could have been here tonight Could have been sweet as wine Could have been a lady They all need you To make love to When you awake Find them on the bed Lying beside you

They all love you You're a good girl And I am surprised When you realize This way you're going to You could have had all right You could have had me tonight You could have had'm sweet as wine

Girl, I'm a lady Girl, I'm all right Girl, I'm here tonight Girl, I'm sweet as wine Girl, I'm a lady Ooh, if I told you Where you're going to Out of my face I'm out of place

Mind your business They all want you To make love to It's a shame to think Again the way you'd like to But is that alright? Put a band here tonight Put a band sweet as wine

Put a little lady But is that alright? Put a band here tonight Put a band sweet as wine Put a little lady Na na na na Na na na na na Na na na na na All right. Alright, could have been here tonight Could have been sweet as wine, could have been the lady Could have been alright, could have been here tonight Could have been sweet as wine, could have been the lady so so Now, Could Have Been a Lady, you mentioned, of course,

a hot chocolate cover, which, by the way, I only, I'll be honest with you, Miles, until last week when I was doing some homework on April Wine for this conversation, I thought Could Have Been a Lady was your song. Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, yeah, a lot of people did. I mean, the whole thing is that it didn't do anything here.

It wasn't known here at all. Hot Chocolate had You Sexy Thing, which was an international hit, so people know that song, but they don't know You Could Have Been a Lady. And so they wouldn't know it until we did it, and it kind of became our own. But April 1's been known for covers.

We've done covers over the years. Most of our material is original, but we have done songs like that or Bad Side of the Moon, which is an Elton John song, and some others. Now, it could have been a lady. Can you give us a sense of what it was like when that took off for you? I mean, in Canada, massive hit, but that was a hit beyond the borders of Canada, right? Well, it was the first song of ours that was charted on Billboard, Cashbox at the time.

It wasn't in the top 20 even, but it was in the top, it was in the 30s, I guess, was it on 38 or something, I forget how high it got on the charts. But that was our first successful song out across the border in the U.S. I don't think it did anything in Europe, but it did well enough in North America. And I mean, at that time, that was quite the feat for a Canadian band. It wasn't commonplace at that time for a Canadian band to crack the top 40 on Billboard Hot 100. Well, yeah, yeah. I mean, not the way it is now, but I mean, there were other people doing it. Guess Who, for example.

You know, there were a lot of bands that came before us. They weren't necessarily the same kind of band. I mean, Gordon Lightfoot was doing very well down there. True. And, you know, and others. But there weren't too many rock slash pop bands or whatever you want, you know, that were doing that well down there.

There weren't many. A lot of us tried. Nothing really happened, but those things were slowly changing. Absolutely. And you mentioned Bad Side of the Moon, which just like could have been a lady, that's still a CanCon rock staple.

I hear it all the time on classic rock radio. Now, Bad Side of the Moon, as I think you mentioned, it's an Elton John song. I have a question from Tim Phelan. Tim wants me to ask you, did you ever meet Elton John? And if you did, what did Elton think of your version of Bad Side of the Moon? Seems as though I've lived my life version of Bad Side of the Moon? Where the light has never shone And the hornets flock like hummingbirds Speaking in a foreign tongue

It's my life, it's my life, it's my life, my life It's my life, it's my life, it's my life, my life It seems as though I've lived my life on the bad side of the moon Sure you're a drag from sickness hill without a rustic spoon Now come on people, live with me where the light has never shone The hornets flock like hummingbirds speaking in a foreign tongue I'm a lot more of the way All the people who make me say Sitting on the bad side of the moon

This is my life, this is my life, this is my life, my life This is my life, this is my life, this is my life, my life There ain't no need for watchdogs here to justify our ways We live our lives in radicals, the main cause of our stay Exiled here from other worlds, our sense has come to soon Why should I be made to play on the bad side of the moon? I'm a life-worth away for the people who make me stay Sitting on the bad side of the moon Into my life, into my life, into my life, my life

Into my life, into my life, into my life, my life. Yeah, no, I've never met him. I've been in the Olympic Studios in England when I was over there in 1980. And I was in the Olympic Studios and I sat at the very piano and played the piano that he used on his first couple of recordings with all those classic early Elton John songs,

which was a thrill for me to think that the man sat here, played this very piano. It was very impressive, but I never did meet him, so I don't know how he felt about that song, our version. I always say that if you're born too late, I think I was born a little too late for the April

Wine heyday, if you will, but if you're born too late and then you listen to the April Wine heyday, if you will. But if you were born too late and then you listen to some April Wine discography, you dive in, you have no idea how many songs you actually know, but you weren't exactly sure they were April Wine jams. One song, like a staple of my life, I've been hearing it forever, is Roller. Roller, what an ass-kicking jam that is. What a hard rock. Just tremendous. Maybe share a little bit about how you came to write Roller. All right. Come eleven or blackjack Gambling night and day Yeah, cause she's a roller now A high roller, baby, she is She's a roller, yeah

A high roller, baby All right Woo! She likes to play for double or nothing She's telling all the boys she's hot And everybody knows she's ready, yeah To give it everything that she got Ooh, she's a roller, yeah A high roller, baby, my, my Ooh, she's a roller, yeah A high roller baby, my, my

Ooh, she's a roller, yeah A high roller baby guitar solo My, my, my, my, my, my, my, my guitar solo People try to tell us she's crazy She doesn't hear a word they say, yeah Telling all the boys to get ready Cause she's giving it all away She's a roller Roller Roller baby Yeah

She's a roller Roller Roller baby She is She's a roller Roller Roller baby Yeah She's a roller, a high roller baby She's a roller, a high roller baby

Bye bye, bye bye, bye bye Bye bye, bye bye, bye bye Thank you. Well, Roller was written after a trip down to Las Vegas, and just the idea that there was a lady that, you know, all she wanted to do was gamble kind of thing. And it was also, it was a great guitar riff, the one that, you know, that opens the song and it's throughout the song. When I found that musically, I realized that this was good. Then I had the idea for the lady that gambles, has a gambling problem, if you will. She's a high roller, maybe. 7, 11, or blackjack, and all that kind of casino lingo thrown in for good measure.

And anyway, I went to Vegas for the first time, I think it was 1975, or maybe just a little bit later, and I had that idea running around until I actually started writing the song. And the arrangement changed a great deal. When I think of that song, what I think of mostly is two things. One, it was one of the few songs that we took on the road and played live before we recorded it and i found there were too many changes uh that it wasn't settled long enough

in any one part of the song so i simplified it by about half so there's a lot of that that that I simplified it by about half, so there's a lot of that linear kind of feel going on. It's the key of E, by the way. And just pumping that low E, and every now and then going, you know, the changes. And by simplifying the song, it just had a new life, and it worked so much better so much better live and i said well this is the version we might have to record and the other thing too uh is i wanted to i used to write songs for tours and i've done that a number of times to say okay we need to start our show our tour with a new song so i'd write like anything you want you got it or or some kind of so i like to rock,

diggity-diggy-diggy, you know, with that whole intro. And in Roller, it was the same thing, and I wanted to write a song that would finish the show. So I threw in all the bye-bye-bye-bye-bye-byes at the end that you hear in the song, and so it kind of came together like that. Amazing. And that was your... I guess that was another US hit. I guess your first since Could Have Been a Lady, but that cracked the top 40 on the Billboard Hot 100 too.

Yeah, that was an international hit. Yeah, that was on first glance. That broke us everywhere. Yeah, with that song. Amazing, amazing. Now I'm going to take you back to March 1977. So April Wine is booked to play a charity concert at the El Macombo.

Shout out to the Elmo. And I guess there was a coal headliner on this bill, some band called the Cockroaches. Can you tell us a little about, like, who are these cockroaches? And tell us a little bit about this gig this gig at the elmo yeah at the elmo combo yeah that was uh that was fun that was with the rolling stones and they called themselves the cockroaches but they had been in montreal to do a show here um uh not long before that i don't know the exact date uh but they had a show at the montreal forum and uh one of their trucks was blown up literally

blown up and their equipment destroyed and so they were looking for additional equipment you know that they that they no longer had you know and so april wine lent them a bunch of our we lent them a bunch of our stuff so they could do the show at the forum at the Forum, and they didn't forget that. So when they decided to record some live music at different venues in North America, including the El Macombo, so they booked it for three days, and they wanted a band to open up for them,

but they didn't want to let the people know that it was actually the Rolling Stones. Of course, that wouldn't last very long, but at least there was one night where people weren't sure what was going on, but they knew that April Wine would sell out the Valley Venue anyway. So it was just booked as April Wine, period.

There was no mention of Cockroach, and it's April Wine, El Macombo, and of course it sold out. And when people arrived, they found that there were Rolling Stones were the headliners on that night and the next night. Well, you're a part of history there.

And I know you record this, your performance, because that's live at the El Macombo. That's right, yeah. And the engineer for that was Eddie Kramer, who was known, I guess, mostly for Jimi Hendrix, the best of Jimi Hendrix. He was the producer for all of that.

And, of course, many others from Led Zeppelin to Kiss to April Wine to many, many bands. He's still very active. So it was nice to be able to work with the Stones and to work with Eddie Kramer. Yeah, it was really cool. And then the with the Stones and to work with Eddie Kramer. It was really cool. And then the Stones took us down to Boston after that in front of like 40,000 people or however many, 30,000 people, whatever they had down there.

So they took us into the States as well. So it was really nice. And that sort of opened some doors in terms of being with bands. I'm thinking like Styx or Rush. After you open for the Stones, you open for uh these other big league bands yeah we worked we worked with a lot of bands yeah a lot of bands at that time you know they we opened for a lot of people and people open for us depending on how it goes and uh yeah we that was that was nice because that roller really opened the door uh for us to go down to the States.

Of course, the El Macombo was before roller. That didn't really open a lot of doors for us, but roller did. Gotcha. Okay, gotcha. Because I didn't live it, I switched up the chronology there. But here's something I'm certain of. When when mtv launches in the states this is august 1981 you in april wine you guys have the uh i guess you're in the history books like this is kind of a fun bar trivia question like name the first canadian recording artist ever played on mtv

and that was you guys when they played uh just between and Me. I think it was the 14th video they played that day. A love that seems strong was not meant to be. Broken hearts don't always mend. Left to one shore to try love again. But just between you and me, baby, I know our love will be. Just between you and me, always I know our love will be.

Just between you and me? Lovers often seem to say Hearts can be blind to love gone astray always it's the same old song someone's been hurt by a love that's gone wrong

just between you and me baby I know our love will be Just between you and me, always I know our love will be My love, one thing Just between you Just between you and me We're just sometimes hard to find The silence can be so unkind You always help me find my way The love that we share

grows stronger each day Just between you and me Baby, I know our love will be Just between you and me Always I know our love will be Seux mots, autres, moi et moi Means that our love will always be Mae fy modd o troi'n ddwy a fy modd Yn golygu y bydd ein cwmni bob amser

Yn ymlaen rhwng chi a fi Mae'n debyg, rwy'n gwybod y bydd ein cwmni Yn ymlaen rhwng chi Yn ymlaen rhwng chi a fi Just between you Just between you and me Ah, well, you might be right, and my memory's wrong, because I thought it was enough is enough. Oh, I'll have to check out the crack research stuff, because I believe it's just between you and me, but you might know better than I do. Well, you know what?

I don't profess to have a perfect memory. I learned a long time ago that I'll never say, oh, I'm positive. I'm not sure but you know the way i i remember the song that they played again and again and they still you know at the anniversary of the the beginning of mtv they still include that in their playlists every year and it's uh enough is enough um i don't know about just between you and me matter of fact i'm trying to think of which came first, which of those two songs or if they were both

on the same album. And that would answer our question. I know Just Between You and Me was on The Nature of the Beast. And Enough and Enough I think is, I don't know,

maybe that's on I Like to Rock or It's First Glance. Quite honestly, I don't recall. So one of us is right and one of us is wrong. Now, okay, so as we're like, again,

I'll speak to Generation X for a moment because the boomers listening are like fanatical. I work with a gentleman named Humble Howard and he is half of a morning show duo called Humble and Fred. And in fact, Humble, you're actually booked and i have to revisit this with the guys because uh it's booked as a zoom and i have to figure out how we could get it so you can call in next week but uh humble howard the first concert he ever saw as a teenager in moose

jaw was april wine and you you know when he was learning to play guitar it was april wine like when i told him he might be able to talk to Miles Goodwin, honestly, I've never seen a reaction like this. So for the boomers out there, they know, but I'm going to speak to Generation X for a moment who are kind of just know could have been a lady in some of the CanCon rock staples and should learn more because this is a sneaky deep catalog you got, my friend.

But you guys never won a Juno. How is it possible April Wine never won a Juno award? I don't know. We do have a Juno for Hall of Fame, Lifetime, whatever they call that. Canadian Music Hall of Fame in 2010.

You got inducted, thankfully, finally. But 11 nominations. I don't know. People have never been able to really figure that out. I mean, you know, awards are very particular things. And they don't really typically mean much. I mean, there's sometimes, of course, if you win an Oscar, your career takes off. Sometimes it doesn't either. But it's a great launching uh you know

thing for for your career and winning a grammy is is also uh it can mean a lot to your career or it could be nothing it really depends on the artist the talent and the people with them and good luck and the rest of it and juno is kind of like that i mean it was so many it is for there was a period of time and i don't want to knock so many, it is for, there was a period of time and I don't want to knock the Junos, but for a time it was a joke. Uh, and, uh, you know, and what happened and I'm quite honest about this and I'm sure what I'm saying, there was, there was a period of time where, uh, someone wanted Juno was never heard of again. And it happened time and time again. So it was like, Oh God, don't let me win a juno that'll be the end of my career that was that was a running joke i mean i remember one time we lost to a duo

called uh miles and lenny um and we never heard from them again and there were a lot of artists there was a string there's a number of years and of course and if that wasn't happening then ann murray won everything you know she'd have a dump and she'd win a juno but you know and and of course the rush you know and and not saying that these those two artists and others don't deserve it but it was just a given you know right if ann murray's in the mix and she wins if it was because she was wonderful and she still is wonderful and Russia, incredible and so forth. And so,

either like the same people went all the time or, and there was a period of time for several years where if you won, it was a kiss of death. But,

you know, people have tried to figure out why in the world, because we would be nominated for Album of the Year, you know, Group of the Year, Song of the Year,

11 nominations. You're like the Susan Lucci of the Junos. Yeah, it was crazy. And let's not fool ourselves. It was politics, too. It really helps, and it did. I can't say that's the same anymore. It really helped to be in Toronto.

I know there are people in groups in Toronto that again, get exceptional coverage and everything else because they're there. They're playing touch football, they're playing on the hockey team with all the radio people. I know how it is and April Wine was always a very private band out of Quebec, out of Montreal. We didn't socialize. I've been a running

joke for years. I'm very, very private. I don't leave home after dark unless I'm paid. It's a combination of a whole bunch of things. There was also a very big misunderstanding between Walt Grealis and the band

one time when somebody wrote something on a fishbowl. It was an old quote from, what's his name, I can't remember now, don't drink the water, fish, leap in it, you know, that old thing. And W.C. Fields said it. And anyway, somebody did that and blamed April Wine. Of course, it wasn't true at all. And Walt Grealis got really... Do you know who Walt Grealis is?

Help me out. He started the whole thing. So anyway, he got really, really upset. And we were kind of... I would say we were blackballed for at least two or three years, so that didn't help things. No matter how we tried to straighten out the fact, the real fact that it wasn't us at all, it was somebody else,

and it was just really too bad it happened at all. But reflecting poorly on the band wasn't is wasn't very um wasn't appropriate because it had nothing to do with the group and then if i have uh my i wrote my memoirs in i forget what year 2017 i think it was around there called just between you and me yes and uh this is discussed and it's very very clear that we had nothing to do with that event with that actual event but uh but i think we paid the price uh with the Juno committee for at least a few years. Well, thankfully, on April 18, 2010, you did finally get inducted into the Canadian Music Hall of Fame. What did that mean to you?

Well, I mean, really, I've got to be really honest with you here. Again, my feeling towards awards in particular, if you believe in them too much, I don't think it's a good thing. I don't think if you're nominated and you lose, you should be really all that disappointed. I mean, of course, I bet. Yeah, I get it. Or if you want to win, you shouldn't, you shouldn't be too big a deal. It's like, don't go extreme either way on these things because you, the fact that your flavor of the month or, or, or something, you know,

something happened that you win an award that particular year, it, you know, it's, it, it's so much more important to have longevity, to be respected by your peers, and your fans. So when I finally got to June, I was like, well, in my mind,

it was about bloody time. And really, for me, it was validation for the fans. I mean, how do the fans feel? They've supported us. We broke so many records over the years.

We're the first group to go platinum. We're the first group to go platinum. We have so many firsts in our career, but we were ignored. And the fans got to say after a while, geez, you know, did I believe in this band when I shouldn't have? Are they really not that good?

Are they not worthy? Right. And I used to feel really bad for the fans. As a matter of fact, when we won, when we were presented with this Lifetime Achievement, or whatever it's called, you know, I said to the Juno committee, Karis, I said, you know, I said to the Juno committee, Karis, I said, you know, I want to I want it presented by two people.

And I said, one of them has to be a fan. And they said, oh, that's never been done yet. We can't have that. And I said, well, I don't want it then. I said, no, I said, I want two people to present this. I said, I want a fan and i and i have another person i have in mind and that's my good friend for a long time barry grace barry grace barry stopped from three days grace right and you know he was a friend of mine he was our you know he worked with

april wine as a roadie for a long time but he went out with three days grace and you know they've sold millions of records fantastic and they still are and he's a dear friend so i said i'd like i'd like uh barry stock and and a fellow named dave cameron to present it and i had a battle a fight back and forth and i said this is about the fans why would you not allow a fan to be part of the presentation right and eventually they said okay now he was at the time working for the military he was working on planes and so forth in the air force division of armed forces for canada and his big big big april wine fan and a wonderful guy he's still a good friend of mine and he runs our website by the way okay and uh and, Dave, you have to come in uniform.

And he said, Miles, they won't let me wear the uniform. And I said, that's crazy. I said, think of the goodwill. To you to come out there as the Armed Forces and a rocker and a fan of April

Wine, how wonderful that would be for PR for the Armed Forces and a rocker and a fan of April Wine, you know how wonderful that would be for a PR for the Armed Forces of Canada. And he said, yeah, but they won't allow it. I said, okay, well, then you come on without the uniform. So he did. And then, you know, he told me a few months later that they had made a big mistake and they wished they had allowed him to go on with the uniform. It would have been a good thing. Of course, it was too late.

There's so much red tape. Nobody wanted to take the responsibility of saying yeah sure let him wear his uniform you know there's they're so terrified of losing you know their jobs or their you know or whatever it is that that just keeps them in the box thinking inside the box if you know what i mean so uh but at the end of the day all i can say is I'm very proud of getting this special Juno. I'm proud for it. I'm happy for the fans, very happy for the fans, most of all. And also, it's nice for my family and my friends to see, yeah, you know,

mild dad, April Wine, got this recognition finally. So at the end of the day, it's all a good thing. Well, speaking of the fans, I tweeted, like, if anyone had a question for you, because you were coming on, and I got, you know, several responses from big fans of yours. One, Midtown Gord, Midtown Gord, big fan of your work, Miles and April Wine, and he says, if you don't mind, maybe you can ask Miles what the secret is for him and Brian Greenway to have stayed together and worked together so well these last 40 plus years.

Well, I don't know. I mean, like Brian, Brian's a great guitar player, right? And he's a friend. I was talking to him today about something. And even though April Wine is off the road indefinitely because of COVID, but we're still friends. We just work well together. We don't hang out together. We don't socialize at all. Maybe that's part of the success. I only see him when we gig. Pardon me? I said that'll work, actually, because you don't get sick of each other. That's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe that's part of it but you know there would never and you know there's been never any any reason for brian not to be part of of that group uh as a matter of fact when

april wine went on a hiatus for nine years uh he was still uh he was still involved on that very last uh studio album that we did down in the Bahamas when the band had broken up but I owed the record company another wine album and and you know if I didn't deliver there would be all kinds of you know legal action and so forth so I was in the Bahamas and I said well I got to deliver another album to get out of this contract and get on with life and it was called Walking Through Fire and so I asked Brian to it was called walking through fire and so i asked brian to come down to the bahamas and we did it down at nassau uh down there and uh so brian is and soon as the band got back together started recording again in the early 90s with attitude

uh brian i called brian right away and uh so brian's always been part of anything that's been april wine since he joined it soon awesome and mike Grigoski just wants to say he saw April Wine at the C&E and at Lulu's in the nineties and that they both shows were fantastic. Yeah. Yeah. We, we, yeah,

we're good. So shout out to April Wine. Ty Cat Pat, I guess that means he's from Hamilton, but Ty Cat Pat says, ask Miles, what was the greatest or most memorable concert lineup that April Wine was

ever a part of? Well, I guess he means like festivals. Yeah, I think he means festivals, yeah. Well, it's a weird thing. People might not understand this. You just have to be there. But sometimes you don't

remember anything any specific things like i see posters now where i go oh my god like cheech and chong were on that bill you know or oh i didn't i didn't realize that neil young was on there uh you know and these are these are festival events that last three days like there's a california jam we did once and and sometimes you you just you know you come in uh before you perform an hour so performing you're so busy getting ready and nervous and everything else and you're kind of doing your own thing and then you go on and you do your thing and then you get off and then you gotta, you know, you gotta deal with whatever, you know, immediately after that,

all the reality of the business of it and then so forth. And then the next thing you know, you're, you're, you're handing out of the, of the, uh, the area and somebody else is coming in. And, and, uh, and you know, you would think that if, you know, I think your, your, your, your average listener here would, would think that, if, you know, I think your average listener here would think that, well, you know, if you knew there were like 12 bands or 10 bands that day, why didn't you just come in early? Just watch the whole thing.

Do your thing and just continue watching, right? Just to soak it all in. But, you know, in reality, it doesn't really, it doesn't always work that way. And especially if it's a two or three day event, you miss a lot. But, you know, we've played, we've shared But we've been on the same festivals at the same time, more or less, many times, and you don't really get to see other groups. But I do know that when we were in England, we played with Neil Young and a group called with Robert Fripp, King Crimson.

Right. And I remember King Crimson coming over, some of the guys at King Crimson coming over and saying that they loved our version of 21st century Schizophrenia that we did. And that was really nice. If you know what I'm talking about, King Crimson, that album called Court of the Crimson King that came out in about 1969, give or take, right about there. And I wore that album to death.

And I said to April, I said, one day I'd love to do this song. It's extremely complicated. Yes. And it's really a big challenge for a three-piece, a four-piece or five-piece band, you know, four guitars and a drummer to do this. But, you know, I want to do it.

And we did our version of it. And it became, some people call it a classic April Wine song. And like it better than King Crimson. But to have the original guys in England that day come over and say, wow, we love your version, was a special moment I remember. Well, just this morning I recorded with Mark Hebbshire. We do a sports podcast called Hebbsy on Sports.

And that cover of the King Crimson cover you're referring to there by April Wine was he brought it up as his very favorite thing you've ever done. So it's definitely a classic. Oh, good. Very good. And then I want to get to solo Miles Goodwin. So that's coming right now. But first, IndyCan Can Radio just wants you to know

that the album cover of Electric Jewels was part of his wall art back in the day. So shout out to Indy Can Radio. Okay, cool. Very cool. Solo. Okay, so what happens? Why does Miles Goodwin go solo?

And I ask you that as like an A. And B, I just recently had Leigh Aaron on the program finally and I know you had a hit with her in 1988 do you know what I mean

so maybe talk about the first solo album and why you went solo Before these days Since I threw the wind I just saw her With my best friend You know what I mean Fuck, you know what I mean Fuck, you know what I mean

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Do you know what I mean? Oh, do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? Well, I mean, you know, I've been tethered to April Wine since 1969, right up until 1985. That's a long time

and things weren't going well you know and I can't get all of that right now but you know it's in my book in my memoir just between you and me but Harper Collins but anyway you know we broke up I call it a hiatus because nine years

later we you know I was back from the Bahamas. I was here and I started getting requests for a new April White album, especially as odd, but out of California, as a matter of fact. But anyway, I ended up doing an album called Attitude in 92. But I'd been with April White so long

that when it broke up and I did Walkin' Through Fire and I was then living in the Bahamas and it was done, my contract was was done and i wanted to do something different because you know i still have that that thing uh that i want to write and i want to record you know and i still have it and i still do write and record all the time and so i want to do something different what what i was hearing uh on the radio uh very, very different from April wine. You know, we were just the,

the classic rock format with guitars and drums, but I was hearing all these other things. And this was the time when a lot of people were working with drum machines and keyboards and sampling. And, you know, Michael Jackson was like King and all these British bands, different bands.

And it was, it was, and this would be before grunge, but there was a period there. There was a lot of stuff going on. Even great artists like Bowie was doing stuff in the style of what was going on. And I said, I've never done anything like this. And I've done some keyboard stuff. I wrote Like a Lover, Like a Song, or Would Want to Lose Your Love and some other things. done anything like this and you know i've done some keyboard stuff i wrote you know like a lover like a song or would want to lose your love and some other things but i've never really experimented with uh with all of the technology and all of the sounds that are that's going on right now

and i said i think i would like to do that so i did uh and it was simply called uh miles goodwin and i don't remember what year it came out. I think it was 87. And I had a great time. I had a ball. And I'm still proud of the album. I don't regret it at all. April Wine's fans didn't like it because it wasn't April Wine-ish.

It was something different. But, you know, that's fine with me. Anyway, there was a Lee. So Lee and Aaron, that song that i did with her do you know what i mean uh is a cover song of course um and uh uh and so i called her i i know her to be a great voice yes and she's a great rocker lee aaron by the way you might know this but uh that was the name of her band she She just assumed the name of her band because she was a Karen.

And then her band was called Lee Aaron. And she just, sort of like Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper was the band, and then he just took the name. Yeah, I didn't know that. I know that that's not her name, even if it was her stage name, that her real name is something else. Right. And I don't even remember anymore.

I used to know. Well, it's Karen. I don't know the last name or anything, but Karen. Yeah, Karen. Yeah, Karen. So I think that's why I called her Karen back in the day when I reached out to her. I didn't call her Lee, but anyway, whatever.

But she's still, as far as I know, she's performed somewhat. She's just a great singer. Oh, yeah. Well, how's this for a segue, Miles? I would say Lee Aaron has the voice of an angel. And what I'm going to do in post here is I'm going to play Will the Last Voice I Hear

Be an Angel? Because that's the new single by Miles Goodwin. It's available now. Tell us about the new album. So, I'm dying to know more information about your new work here. I think it's called Long Pants. It is called Long Pants, yes. And it's a collection of songs.

Like some people that know about it are referring to a songwriter's album, if you will. I don't know. It's a collection of songs. The oldest one goes back to when my daughter was born 40 years ago. And her name is Amber. And the song's called forever amber and uh i came uh she was the night she was born i came home from the hospital i went right into the studio exhausted and i wrote the entire song every word every note

uh that you know an hour after i got home. Wow. I recorded it on a cassette. Sure. Which I still have. And my family, Amber and my sons and so forth, have always said, you know, Dad, you know, when are you going to record and release this song? Because it's so beautiful. And I said, well, I said, I can't put that on an April Wine wine album so i don't know and so you know 40 years later i'm recording it and uh and and and

i have a song for each of my children i have a song about life and death and and i've got some humor on the album there's a drinking song and one about kittens and there's one about uh uh you know this this the the single that's out right now is um that's gone out to radio and there's the response to it on the appropriate stations for what i'm doing at this time are playing it so it's really good you're really happy happy about that Well, the last voice I hear Be an angel Well, I leave this world peacefully well the last voice i hear be an angel lord saying take my hand and walk with me The road I've walked

Wasn't always kind And Lord, you know that's true And now all I want Is peace of mind And to one day be with you I remember the days of summers As a young child long, long ago And although much has changed

In ways I'm still the same As that young boy I used to know These days I worry some About my past and the things I've done Oh Lord, oh Lord, oh Lord, I pray You'll never turn me away Well, the last voice I hear Be an angel Well, I leave this world

Peacefully Well, the last voice I hear, be an angel Lord will I leave this world peacefully will the last voice I hear be an angel Lord

saying take my hand and walk with me saying take my hand and walk with me Saying take my hand and walk with me But one friend of mine called it a prayer. I'm not a religious guy. I'm just not. A friend of mine called it a prayer.

I'm not a religious guy. I'm just not. In all of April 1's career time, I've avoided politics and religion. I won't talk about either one of them. Even with my friends, it's something I avoid because it seems to be kind of a no-win kind of conversation. So I leave that alone. But this is a spiritual song. And I did, this is a thing called the Christmas Daddy Showdown in Halifax, where I live now.

It's an annual event that's been around for many, many, many years. And I've done it, you know, the last several years because I'm back in town and they asked me to do it. And I love doing it. I did an Ian McClellan song called Put Your Hand in the Hand, which was very successful and covered by, of course, Anne-Marie. I think it was most successful with it, but many people have done that. So I did a version of that with my acoustic trio. And it went over so well, I came home and I thought about it. I said, boy, people really like this kind of thing,

this spiritual kind of song. I wonder if I could write one. And in a day or so, I came up with the chorus and I went and I played it for my partner and she loved it. And I said, well, maybe I do have a song here. And it actually brought a tear to her eye when I played it for her because she is religious. And I said, if anybody's going to tell me how they feel about it, it's going to be her. And I said, if anybody's going to tell me how they feel about it, it's going to be her. And she loved it. And then a couple of days later, I got an email, a request from Los Angeles asking me if I would be a judge on a spiritual, international spiritual songwriting contest.

Oh, wow. Well, I almost fell out of my chair i called them the next day and i and i said i said why in the world you know would you ask me to do something like this at this time or at all uh and she said well we just really respect your songwriting and i said wow that's really cool i said it's funny because i just started writing my very first spiritual so that's crazy good so i said i'm going to say yes so i became a judge on this international spiritual songwriting contest and it's over now and i cast my vote and everything else and i finished the song not long after i spoke to them so it all came together in a very cool way and um yeah so it's it's the first song um from the album long pants the long pants uh like i say is a collection of songs or songs for adults if you will um

mature people uh and um um it's been a labor of love. It's years and years. I finally putting all of these, all the music and the words and thoughts into a project. So that's very cool. And Long Pants means, Long Pants means like adults versus short pants, which would be children. Right.

You know, it's just that kind of connection, short pants, long pants. Yeah. Okay, amazing. So the single that's available right now, Will the Last Voice I Hear Be an Angel and Long Pants, just summer, do we have a release date panel on pants yeah okay amazing so the single that's available right now uh will the last voice i hear be an angel and long pants uh just summer we have a do we have a release date or is it just summer 2021 we can get our hands on sometime yeah sometime in the summer yeah i don't know i mean i

have to finish up you know finish the writing process which is most you know well on its way but i have to finish that book studio i'm going to do all of that kind of stuff but once i get rolling it's it's it, it'll come together quickly. So it'll come out probably towards the end of the summer, I would imagine. And of course, a final question here. By the way, thanks so much for your time. I've really, really enjoyed chatting with you, Miles.

But when this pandemic ends, assuming this does end in a better end, because I'm sick of it, but when the pandemic ends, will April wine hit the road? It's a really good question. I was talking to Brian about this today. You know, there are different camps, different thoughts about this. Some people feel that with the vaccines, once everybody gets vaccinated,

that, you know, we're going to be good to go. Things will be more or less the way they were before. vaccinated that you know we're going to be good to go things will be more or less the way they were before and the optimists believe like next year will be you know will be a very different scenario uh and then there's those that believe that um that it's going to take a long long long time and that no one person uh is safe until everyone is safe and it's a global thing. And you know that in most places, not all places, it's worse now than it was when it began. Even in Nova Scotia, where I live now,

we had 182 brand new cases yesterday. A month ago, we might have one new case. Well, the variants are here. Yeah, the variants kicked in and some people behaved very badly and it just spread like crazy. So now we're in complete lockdown, which was a very safe place to be right now. It's not quite as safe as it was.

And, you know, see what's happening in India. And, of course, there are a whole gang, millions of people, many people that don't believe in, you know, in, in, in, you know, in wearing masks and social distancing or any of that. And of course that's not helping anything. So I don't, I don't know. Will April want to perform again when it's, when, you know, it's safe to put it that way. It's safe to get on a plane. It's safe to be able to play venues that make sense where they're, you there are a lot of people more or less shoulder to shoulder the way it was. I don't know.

I don't know how long it's going to take. The party tells me that it'll be too late for us. I'm in my 70s now and I still rock. I can still hit the notes and roller and i'm like a lot of bands i've been around as long as i have our april wine has been around that are you know in their 60s and even into their early 70s you know that i mean uh it just it is i mean the rolling stones continue to play it's it's in our dna something you know i got a i was talking to brian adams a couple of days ago and he called me here here about something that he's involved with and asked me if I would be part of it. And I said that I would.

And, you know, we talked briefly about how, you know, it's in our DNA. And like the first time he saw me, he was in Kingston. He's from Kingston back in 74 or 5 or something like that. He was young. He's younger than I am. And he was talking, you talking about how wonderful that was. He wanted to know what's that timing and say hello. That's all you're saying. What kind of timing is that? I don't know, Brian. I don't know what the timing is. We do it. A lot of us do it because we love to do it. As long as I honestly can remember,

I've always, always loved music and played guitar when I was a little kid. I still have the first guitar I ever had in my entire life. Oh, good for you. I still have that guitar. And I released, in the last few years, I released, you're talking about solo records, I released Metal Scooter and just on the scooter in front of the blues 2018 and i just not it's not because you know all of a sudden well you know i can't rock so i'll play blues or country music or something i think some people do

that i just did it because i i'm a fan of uh blues songs i'm a songwriter and i'm a fan of songs a big influence was me, was Taj Mahal. It was the very first record I bought around the same time as King Crimson. I played it to death and I still own the original copy. And I love B.B. King, The Thrill Is Gone. I just love blues songs. And I've been, you know, April Wine, I've had blues, blues-flavored stuff in our stuff for years.

And of course, blues was a big influence, like bands like, you know, Bled Saplin and all kinds of people, Eric Clapton and so forth. Rolling Stones, of course, and so forth. So, you know, I decided that I was going to finally do a blues album of songs. And wouldn't you know it,

first release, nominated for Blues Album of the Year at the Junos. Right. You know, not bad. I'm a 69-year-old to come out with a brand new direction and to be nominated as one of the best of the year.

Awesome. I lost to Colin James. Of course, we always lose to Colin when he comes out, apparently. I love Colin. He's one of those things. Oh, Colin, you know, if Anne-Marie does a blues album,

the rest of us are screwed. Oh, that's right. That's right. That's right. But anyway, and then I did a second. And of course, that album won the East Coast Music Award Blues Album of the Year. It was a top 40 blues charts in the year. This was an international success.

I was in the top 40 for over a year in the States. And then I did Friends of the Blues 2 the following year. And the same kind of success, pretty much. Won awards and was played everywhere. And now I'm going to do this solo album called Long Pants. Right. And the next Blues album is well on its way. I don't know, it's not going to come out this year.

And finally, there's been a request for an April Wine album for a long time. Our last studio album was 15 years ago. And this year, 21, is exactly 50 years since our very first release in November, I think it was November or September, with Fast Train in 1971. So it's exactly 50 years ago. So I called the guys and I said, you want to do an April Wine album? Because I've got all the time in the world now.

I get up in the morning and I get my coffee and I wrap myself around the guitar. And I do that almost every single day. It's like, okay, when am I going to write this morning? What direction am I going to try and go? And so I've been working on a new April Wine album. I'm actually, you know, slap on the Marshall, crank off the Marshall,

strap on my Les Paul, turn on the Marshall in my recording studio at Rock. You know, and it's fun. Amazing. It's really fun. I haven't done it in a long time. And it's coming along. So I hope there'll be a brand new studio album.

If not at the very end of the year, you know, then sometime next year. Amazing, amazing. Good for you, man. Now, you mentioned Brian Adams. I know I lied. I said that was my last question, but this is my real last question,

which is, were you invited to be a part of Tears Are Not Enough in 1985? No, no. Well, that's bullshit. Like, I'm part of me, Are Not Enough in 1985? No. No. Well, that's bullshit. Like, I'm part of me, but shouldn't you have got the call? Well, the thing is, you know, April Wine has been ignored in Canada in terms of those kinds of things, like forever, and I don't think it'll ever change.

Like, I see, you know, I see all kinds, like, here's something, and I don't want to be known as, you know, as Sour Grapes and Complaining. I mean, I wrote a song called Rock and Roll is a Vicious Game, and it became an April Wine classic, you know, and it was played, you know, outside of Canada,

just everywhere. I don't know if you know the song, but anyway, it's, and in the Canadian music industry at the time, said, oh, Miles, it's Sour Grapes, he's complaining because Canadian music industry at the time. So at all miles, it's sour grapes. He's complaining because he's never won a Jonah. And I'm going, no, it's got nothing to do with that.

You know, I mean, I just wrote I just thought about Elvis Presley. I thought about Janis Joplin. I thought about Jim Morrison, you know, Kurt Cobain or whoever, you know, all of these people that just uh you know the the lifestyle killed them and and i said more importantly and that's in the song that ideas in the song but even more importantly to me the rock most vicious game is all of the people that couldn't succeed in the business be the people the regular people that just loved you know singing and playing and writing songs more than anything. But they just didn't make it.

It just didn't happen for them. Either they just didn't have enough talent or bad breaks for whatever reason. I consider April Wine to be lucky to have the career that we've had. They've always said to me, what's the success? What do you suggest for new people coming up? What's your formula or whatever? And I said, just know, they've always said to me, what's the success? What do you suggest, you know, for new people coming up? What's your formula or whatever? And I said, you know, just work harder than everybody else. You know, when everybody's sleeping, you're still working.

I said, that's what I did. All I did was all I did was all about work and writing and singing and playing and getting better and writing songs. And that's why, you know, I wrote 80% of April Wine songs. I produced them, I published them and so forth, because you know i wrote 80 of april wine songs i produced them i published them and and so forth because you have to work hard and it's the same with anything you do in this life it's got to be it's got to be a hundred percent at least if you want to have a chance to succeed and uh but at any rate you know this song rock and roll is a vicious game it was an observation of people that tried really hard and they loved it, but it just didn't happen for them.

And then there were the greats that just, you know, succumbed to the pressures of the lifestyle and everything. But yet, you know, April Wine and myself are not invited to a lot of things, and I see the same old faces, the same old people that are invited to everybody. And I think part of it today, and for some time has been management too.

If you have a certain kind of managers, you know, they will make things happen. They will open doors and they will always keep your name there right at the tip of people's tongue, you know, and you just, and the more successful you are, you know, of course, but I see a lot of, a lot of Canadian groups that are, they're part of everything of everything and like i'm never asked to do partly anything if you know what i mean and sometimes it kind of bugs me but on the other hand you know it's what it is i don't worry about it i think one of the one of the things that really kind of sums up my side of of what's been going on and like and i'm very fortunate i've had

a great career and I have no complaints really. A lot of people I know have been inducted into the Canadian Songwriters Hall of Fame and I haven't. I'm just saying, what do I have to do? I've been writing hits for over 50 years. Even my blues records were successful children general nominated i wrote everything i'm a songwriter right uh why and friends of marita mcneil was just a doctor but the one before that you know was uh kim mitchell and and and other people i know so i said i'm always sending a message they say hey kim you know congratulations of me and dr ned the songwriters hall of fame i said what do i have to do to get in there?

He says, you're kidding me. So what do you mean? He says, you're not there? He said, man, you should have been there

decades ago. I said, yeah, well, they kind of ignore me. And I don't know why. But you know what I do is I just keep doing

what I keep doing. I keep doing what I do. I just keep doing it. Like, to heck with them, you know? It's more about the fans. When I do an album and people love it, you know, that's the payoff for me. And, you know, with the last voice I hear in Angel,

the response to that has been, like, right over the top, and it's wonderful, the way it makes people feel, and radio's embraced it. And, you see, I did my first, this is unbelievable, but I did an in-depth interview the other day with the Catholic Register. Okay, sure. I mean, that's about as right-wing Christian as you can get. I mean, the Pope reads this

one, you know. Wow. You know, so, and they're talking to me, my goodness. Well, Miles, I'm sorry. I'm so glad you, you know, I said I'd take a half an hour of your life. I actually doubled that, and I hope that's okay. But this has been, thanks for making the time, buddy.

This was great. All right. Well, you take care of yourself. No, thanks so much, Miles. And I can't wait to pick up the new album. Thanks so much. All right. Okay.

Thank you. Bye-bye. Cheers. And that brings us to the end of our 845th show. You can follow me on Twitter. I'm at Toronto Mike. Miles is at Miles Goodwin. Our friends at Great Lakes Brewery, they're at Great Lakes Beer.

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Ah, where you been? Because everything is kind of rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold but the snow won't be today And your smile is fine

and it's just like mine and it won't go away Cause everything is rosy and green Well you've been under my skin for more than eight years It's been eight years of laughter and eight years of tears And I don't know what the future can hold or will do It's been eight years of laughter and eight years of tears And I don't know what the future can hold or will do For me and you But I'm a much better man for having known you

Oh, you know that's true because Everything is coming up rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold but the smell of snow This podcast has been produced by TMDS and accelerated by Rome Phone. Rome Phone. Rome Phone brings you the most reliable virtual phone service to run your business and protect your home number from unwanted calls. Visit RomePhone.ca to get started. Cause I know that's true, yes I do I know it's true, yeah I know it's true How about you?

I'll end up picking up trash and then putting down roads And then brokering stocks, the class struggle explodes And I'll play this guitar just the best that I can Maybe I'm not and maybe I am But who gives a damn Because everything is coming up Rosy and gray Yeah, the wind is cold

But the smell of snow warms me today. And your smile is fine, it's just like mine, and it won't go away. Because everything is rosy and green. Well, I've kissed you in France, and I've kissed you in Spain. And I've kissed you in places I better not name And I've seen the sun go down on Shakhtar Khor But I like it much better going down on you Yeah, you know that's true

Because everything is coming up Rosy and green Yeah, the wind is cold But the smell of snow Warms us today And your smile is fine And it's just like mine And it won't go away

Because everything is rosy now Everything is rosy now Everything is rosy and Everything is rosy and gray you