Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Mysterion The Mind Reader: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1935

Episode Date: July 17, 2026

In this 1935th episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with mentalist and musician Mysterion the Mind Reader about The Sentimentalists with Steffi Kay, appearing on Penn & Teller: Fool Us, Amer...ica's Got Talent, and Canada's Got Talent, and going solo. Then, he reads Toronto Mike's mind.A version of this podcast without programmatic ads is available to all Toronto Mike'd Patrons at patreon.com/torontomike.Toronto Mike'd, an award-winning podcast, is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca.If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please emaail Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In the realm of everyday existence, the human mind is governed by five senses. Today, we are going to explore the realm of the sixth sense, ESP, extra sensory perception. My name is Mysterion, the man who sees tomorrow, and I'm thrilled to be making my debut today on Toronto Mike. Welcome to episode 1,935 of Toronto Mikeed, an award. winning podcast. Proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. Order online at Great Lakesbeer.com for free local home delivery in the GTA. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palma Pasta in Mississauga and Oakville. Visit palma Pasta.com for more. Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. Catch a game at Christy Pits this summer.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Ticket required. Fusion Corp's own Nick Iienes. He's the host of Building Toronto Skyline. And Mike and Nick, two podcasts that you ought to listen to. Recyclemyelectronics.c.c.c.mitting to our planet's future means properly recycling our electronics of the past. And Redley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today, making his Toronto Mike debut, it's mentalist. and magician,
Starting point is 00:01:50 Mysterion, the mind reader. Do people call you Mysterion? My mom calls me Mysterio. Everybody calls me Mysterio. Okay, so don't call me Chris. Call me Mysterio. You can call me Chris. Some people do.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I mean, it's a little more personal, but I think it's like calling Batman Bruce. You know, I'm going to call you Mysterion. Let's do that. You've convinced me here. Let's shout out somebody else who has an alter ego, if you will, but let's shout out Sergio. Jerry off the top.
Starting point is 00:02:19 How do you know Sir Jerry? Well, I know Sir Jerry from, oh boy, well over 20 years ago when he was performing his Sir Jerry hour, his show. I was one of the villains on the show. I would portray a villainous magician who would terrify the children and steal treasure and thwart Sir Jerry and had a lot of fun doing it. And we reconnected recently over the internet and boom. I thought you were going to say, I've known.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Sir Jerry a long time. He was my lawyer. No, I've never needed his services, although I know they're excellent. I heard he's good. But were you part of that day that they took over the YTV show? You there that day? No, I was my own independent on YTV. I would do appearances on Zone as Mysterion with Carlos, and then they were on independent around the same time. Okay, man, so much ground we're going to cover here. But I'm wondering, did you ever appear when PJ Fresh Phil was the PJ? Yeah, yeah, a couple of times. Because he's the greatest. And the funny thing about Phil is for years, I was producing a magic and burlesque show at Cherry Colas on Bathurst Street. And then my then, my then girlfriend took over that contract. And PJ Phil was one of the regulars at the show. And we would see them there almost every
Starting point is 00:03:42 week. It's funny. I used to, in my younger years, I would go to the Phoenix, It was called Strange Paradise. It was Monday nights. And you'd get your grunge and your Stone Temple pilots and your smashing pumpkins and rage against the machine and all the stuff I was really into. But PJ Fresh Phil was there almost every week, just kind of by himself, just like moshing solo.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Yeah. Yeah, he's a very independent fellow. He would sit at the bar by himself, but everyone came to him. Well, yeah, because he's PJ Fresh Phil. Exactly. Okay, you know what that's like. Okay, so shout out to Sir Jerry. he kind of put the bug in my ear and said,
Starting point is 00:04:18 hey, you should talk to Mysterio on the mind reader. And I said, anybody with that handle I need to talk to. Like, I got to see what makes you tick, what you're all about. So I'm glad you're here. I'm glad to be here. Ask away. Okay, well, we're going to get into it.
Starting point is 00:04:33 I got to shout out one more person, though, because I had two recordings today. So I had on a chap who also knows you named Dave LeBlanc. Yeah. You know, Dave? How random. I know. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:43 So Dave Leblanc was here. this morning, and that episode dropped today, which is Thursday, July 16, you're here for the afternoon, and your episode drops tomorrow. So future, Mike, you're going to the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball game at Christy Pitts tonight
Starting point is 00:04:59 because I'm going on Friday night. I'm talking to Future Me. It's very complicated. But it is interesting because my guest on Monday was a chap who also knows you, Jeremy Hopkins. Do you know the name Jeremy Hopkins? I recognize the name. I know a lot of people. He's going to help you out. He's going to help you out.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So he says he met you and Dave LeBlanc when he was working at 54 East Studio in Scarborough in like 2008. Yep, that sounds right. So there you know who it is. Yep, absolutely. Well, you meet so many people and I've been around for so long. When, because I have more notes from people who remember you back in the day. But when did you realize you wanted to be a mind reader or a mentalist or a magician? I guess you're all of the above.
Starting point is 00:05:45 You know, the truth is when I was a boy watching the amazing Creskin and Doug Henning, Paul Daniels and Mark Wilson and all these famous magicians from back in the day. And I had just a love for magic. I did it as a hobby, a side hobby. And I lived near one of the magic stores, Dufferin and Lawrence. And I was dabbling in that for, you know, a little while into my early teens. and then, you know, discovered girls and kind of got out of it for a bit.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Sure. And then I got back into it and took a little bit more of a serious approach to it. I was working in catering. And I essentially saw a magician perform at a person's home and fell back in love with the show. I fell in love with the show. Fell in love with it. My interest peaked. And then I saw the invoice that he had charged the show.
Starting point is 00:06:41 And I went, wait a say. second. He's making what I make in two weeks. I can easily flip this. And, you know, I took the jump and I'll be honest. It was tough at the beginning for the first year. It was a struggle, but I'm a, you know, I pound the pavement and I was going venue to venue and hustling and doing bar magic, hustling and bar magic and, you know, putting up posters everywhere and and then reinventing myself. And then I did a show at the Cadillac Lounge where at the time I'd worked as a cook. And they had a burlesque show that was running.
Starting point is 00:07:21 And I worked a part on that show as an in-between act. And then the Toronto Star came to me after they were at this show and said, hey, listen, we loved what you do. Could we do an interview with you? And I said, yeah, of course, I did an interview with them. I expected a little article. They gave me a two-page spread in the entertainment section. Who did it?
Starting point is 00:07:40 Do you remember? Murray White. Okay. He forever has my, I will go to his home for free because he was one of the, if not the first person to take that leap. And it was almost overnight people started calling. I was selling out tickets at the time to the, to the Gladstone. What are you talking about here? 2000, I think, maybe five, somewhere around there.
Starting point is 00:08:03 But it is just over 20 years ago. Like how important. newspaper coverage was back then. At the time. Oh my gosh. Everyone saw it. And then I was so distinct looking. I had a white stripe in my hair. What happened to the white stripe? Well, it ran off on me. It left me for another head. I got so sick of it. I got so sick of it. I had to get rid of it. It was time.
Starting point is 00:08:27 But it worked. And a lot of people, I was doing events and people would say, that guy with the white strival. I don't know his name, but that guy with the white strived. Now I'm at a point where they just know who I am. So I got. You don't need the white stripe anymore. You know, it's funny because two nights ago, do you know who was in town performing at the RV? The white stripes? Yeah, so the white stripes, maybe Jack's got your-
Starting point is 00:08:50 And the dreaded polka dot band. Right. I have to admit, I cannot stand that band and curses on everybody. I love music of all kinds. ADP, they go. My God, they drive me crazy. That's, I think that, I think that is an acquired taste, right? But I think, but I've noticed with my, uh, but you know, but the timeline, uh, the social media
Starting point is 00:09:13 feed I kind of have in my buddies all like love that band. Yeah. Like they make a lot of people happy. That's all that's important. Yeah. I mean, I feel like they could franchise that band because we don't ever see the people, right? Just get, you know, similar, uh, I was called the magicians, but musicians to just dress up in the same garb or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:33 and they could play multiple cities on the same night. Heck, they could even have it pre-recorded. Who would know? Good point. By the way, the Cadillac Lounge, is this when Sam... Oh, Sam Grosso was the owner? He's been on. Yep, he's a great guy.
Starting point is 00:09:45 He's a great guy. Him and I go back to graffees. Yeah. He owned Cessington Market. Yeah. Way back when... He even owned the Elma Combo for a while. For a brief period.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And I was running, when he was at the Elma Combo, I was running pro wrestling at the Elma combo for a year in that gap. And I was running Victory Wrestling Showcase. And then we got that on Rogers and moved it over to the mod club. And then it was hopping all over the place. Okay, shout out to Stu Stone. Every time I think of like wrestling, and I think of my buddy Stu Stone.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But okay, let me read a couple more notes that came in from listeners when they heard that you were finally making your highly anticipated Toronto mic debut. And we're going to learn more about it. So it sounds like you got this bug early. it really helps seeing that invoice. You know, you saw the invoice and you said, oh, maybe I should, I should do that. But Jim Moore, okay, Jim Moore was in Rusty.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You remember the band Rusty? I know, indeed. I know Jim Moore. Okay, he says he remembers you when you were a bartender. Yeah, one of his best friends, Jim Moore's best friends, is Kevin Jollamore. Oh, Kevin Jollymore. Yeah, out of Halifax.
Starting point is 00:10:57 Yeah, well, that's, yeah, that's where Jim's from, too. Well, he was, Kevin was the bartender. Okay, sorry. Okay, okay, yeah. I was the cook. You were the cook. Okay, and this is like mid-90s, he's taught. Late 90s.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Late 90s. This was all Cadillac Lounge and right after that. Okay, this is all, all the pieces are coming together here. And Tobias Vaughn says he remembers in the late 90s or maybe the early 2000s. He says, he remembers you at places like Bistro 422. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:20 And it's funny, you mentioned the Beast. Excuse me. I had not gone there in years. And my partner and I were walking. down college about two years ago, three years ago maybe. And I saw the bistro and I went, let's go in and have a pint. And we went in and everyone just looked at me like the devil came home. And he's back.
Starting point is 00:11:47 We've watched you on TV. And you know, you were on America's Got Talent. You fooled Pan and Teller. And what are you doing here? And I said, getting nachos. And we caught up. And I've been going there maybe every six weeks since. I go in every six weeks for a pint and a burger and to see the old gang.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But it kind of speaks to how you don't just one day wake up and say, I'm going to be on America's Got Talent, right? Like you got to, you talked about hustling, but you got to put in the reps, you got to put in the work, you got to hone your act. And to this day, I still am. You know, I'll tell you, I was in a duo act for over a decade, and we did tremendously. Sentimentalists.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Of course, yeah. And then the duo, we split. You know, it was actually speaking to her an hour ago. She came back to Toronto for personal reasons. And, you know, we were chatting. And when the duo split, I had to start over. Because everyone was used to the duo and what we did is this incredible act. And everything I had was dated and looked so, you know, out of touch with what I would present today.
Starting point is 00:12:58 So the last couple of years, I've really been. fine-tuning my craft. And in a way, as an artist, it was a bit of a blessing because it inspired me to really recreate my love of mentalism and re-explore what's out there, not be comfortable with what I did. And since then, I've been really pushing the boundaries. And, you know, I was at the Magic Castle this weekend in L.A. Only to watch acts. That was it. I only went to watch shows. And they have an improv room down in the, in the basement in the, in the museum. And I would bring groups of people. You know, I had the addicts, the band, the addicts. I had the lead singer monkey, is a friend of
Starting point is 00:13:42 mine. He came with me. And he brought his date. They said, well, when do we get to see you? And I went, well, I'm not booked. They're going, well, we thought, everyone's saying, I thought you were performing. And I went, tell you what, I'm going to go down and do a thing in the basement. And it was great. And it was everyone got to see me solo. And, you know, magicians were going, I I've never seen your work solo. And I go, how have you never seen my work? Of course, I only came here with the duo. Right.
Starting point is 00:14:07 So I'm recreating this brand again. And it's like, it's like I've been reborn as an artist because I have the freedom to, to essentially re-experience everything that I did, only do it correctly this time. And how's that going for you? Like, so I don't know how long it's been since, you. your partner parted ways with just about two years and so how's this reinvention going it's going great um you know before you before we started as you saw i was taking a call for a corporate event i heard okay and i'm getting called i saw that invoice all the time yeah i mean i'm getting called i'm doing the cn e i have an event i'm at a rodeo this weekend in in simco i'm doing um
Starting point is 00:14:55 events for fairs i'm doing corporate events doing private shows at people's homes, people who have seen the duo, who have seen the duo twice, are calling me saying, do you have anything new? And I'm going, well, yeah, I have me. And I've rebuilt everything and recreated everything. And they're hiring me. And I've just essentially hired a, you know, I didn't hire. I have an AI assistant who's gone through all my old, you know, clients and are emailing them to see who's still active or alive. Wow. And I'm getting calls back and it's going okay.
Starting point is 00:15:36 I do miss the duo. I have to admit. I loved it. Can we cover the duo and then we'll talk about the reinvention, you know, solo mystery on here. But how, so okay, I'm going to play a clip. It's unrelated, but we're the same age. So I think this might hit with you.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Hold on here. This thing's got nothing to do with the campaign. It's just for the election. It's politics. Give people what they want. That's what Joey says. Since when's Joey so smart? But it's working, Rula.
Starting point is 00:16:15 All the guys are going to vote for me, two or three times, some of them. The girls don't like it much. I don't need the girls. If all the guys vote for me and the girls divide their vote among the other guys, I win. Okay, what we have here, of course, is DeGrassey Jr. all the way with Stephanie K. Well, a funny thing happened. That is her actual name.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Steffy K. Steffy K is her actual name. And her last name is Khaffato. So it's Steffi K, K-A-Y. Right. We've been hired by DeGrasi to do the rap parties. And she's a bit younger. And I don't think she watched that original.
Starting point is 00:17:03 The OG, that's the OG, the Grassy Jr. So we would say, I'm Mysterioid and I'm Steffi. we are the sentimentalist and everyone would roar out laughing and I said you do realize what you've done and she said what is this is this a you know what am I missing and I said it's a character on the show and let's just say she's easy and we just all had a good laugh well that's the first episode do you know that like I didn't know yeah I know because I always think this episode is like the kids of the grassy yeah that's true yes okay that's true but the after the kids of the grassy street was one thing I mean they changed their names a lot of the characters right like
Starting point is 00:17:37 Wheels is Griff. You got it. You are my age. Oh, come on. So I still watch the show. Amanda Steptoe is my partner's friend. That is Stephanie K. No, that's Spike.
Starting point is 00:17:48 You're right. The actresses who played Stephanie K. What is it called? Oh my God. I almost just said we were at a Jean de Poit twin. We were at... ADP. No, we were at...
Starting point is 00:17:56 Oh, my God. We were at a concert two weeks ago as she was there with us. You can't remember who it was, though. No clue. I'm out of touch with reality. We were at L7. Out of touch. That's a...
Starting point is 00:18:06 No, we were at L7 and Amel and the Sniffers. Okay, L7, pretend that we're dead. That was the big, uh, the big champ. About a month ago. I actually think a member of that band, I think is Jennifer Finch, uh, got diagnosed brain cancer. I saw. That's terrible.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Yeah. Bricks are heavy. That was the album I had. Bricks are heavy. Good album. I love grunge, man. Yeah. Hook it to my veins here.
Starting point is 00:18:28 So, okay, so obviously to make sure I'm clear with everybody, I'm making a joke here about all the way with Stephanie Kaye, because your partner. for 10 years and the sentimentalists was a mentalist name Steffi K. Yeah. So how did you meet Steffi K and how did you partner with Steffi K? So I did a variety night. I was asked to host a variety night at the Lee's Palace forever ago. And there were variety acts.
Starting point is 00:18:56 There was a woman who was a magician. There was a burlesque dancer, but a whole whack load of stuff. And then this young girl comes out and she starts painting and drawing really, really quick and it looks like it's a it's nothing and then she turns the image upside down and it's a pinup girl and i went this is great so i went backstage and i thought you know she young lady and you know i didn't know her so i said hey you know i'm mysterion i'm one of the hosts and i obviously introduced you but uh tell me a little bit more about you she goes oh i'm your facebook friend and i went
Starting point is 00:19:27 oh you are so she had a different name on facebook and so i don't drive i i don't drive i never have i mean i have but haven't driven in years. And so I mentioned about an event and she said, oh, can I come with you? I want to watch your act. And I went, yeah, sure, let's do it. But I don't drive. She goes, I'll drive you. So she started driving me to gigs.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And, you know, I'd throw her gas money or whatever. And she would never take it. But I said, what's going on? She goes, I'm really interested in this. And she said, why don't we do something where I'm in the audience? And then she would start catching on to what I was doing. Not necessarily catching on, but getting a feel for it and wanting to learn. And I taught her a thing or two.
Starting point is 00:20:04 and then she was able to kind of decode other stuff. And we started to integrate her into the show. And we did a thing at, somewhere in Hamilton, this forever ago. And she knocked the ball out of the park. And it was like the second coming of Mysterion. And then I had arranged a show or a documentary with Bell, Fib. And I said, listen, I have a feeling, this is going to be where the direction of this act is going. I want to include her in the act.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So we were at the set and... And this is something strange. No, this is something strange. I'm now. That's correct. And I said, you know, we... I want Stephanie to be a part of it because she's going to be integral with the act.
Starting point is 00:20:49 And they asked us, well, what do you call yourselves? And I said, Mysterion and Steffie. And the cameraman went, you know, you should call yourselves the sentimentalists, Hardy Har. And we looked at each other and went... There it is. That's the greatest name.
Starting point is 00:21:04 there could have been. It's perfect because she's all vintage and retro and, you know, she, I was wearing that at the time. She would get me outfits and, and it just, it just blew up. And then it was S and M or, you know, Steffey and Mysterio and sentimentalists. They get all lined up. And almost overnight, much like that Toronto Star article, almost overnight, we were on morning shows. We were doing, and it listed, it didn't hurt that I had already had those contacts. And it was a fresh thing for me to deliver to the media. it really blew up. We did Humble and Fred.
Starting point is 00:21:37 Hey, you know I produced that show? Which one? Humble and Fred. Well, there you have it. We did that. We did CHCHCHH. We did some breakfast television. You name it.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Then we did. We said, she said, why don't we apply for Fool Us? And I went, Oh, Penn and Teller show. I said, I don't know. I said, I don't think we're ready to do fool us. She went, no, we should do it. We should send it a thing and do it.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So we were in Ottawa doing a theater show, and we filmed a set. segment, sent it in, and within a day, they said, no pre-show, no set-ups. And they were done. And I said, in response, we didn't have any pre-show or set up. They went, well, this can't be done the way you're doing it. And I said, I'm telling you what you saw is what you got. They said, well, send us something else.
Starting point is 00:22:20 So we scratched her head. I spoke to a woman, I know. She gave me the suggestion of what we ended up doing and sent that in. And they went, yeah, we love it. Come on in. Let's do it. And I went, okay, they took us in. I said, we're not going to win.
Starting point is 00:22:31 and we won. We got the trophy. I couldn't believe it. You fooled Penn and Teller. We fooled them. And I feel, it's funny, because I just spoke to somebody who was at that, a production person that was at that,
Starting point is 00:22:47 I spoke to them last week when I was in L.A. And they happened to be at a show I was at. And they said that they were blown away by it because it was so fresh that the mental gymnastics of what her and I were doing were so unexpected that it went over their heads. It wasn't that they didn't know how it was done. They just imagined there's no way they went to that level.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Wow. At where we were in the eyes of the media. Can you tell us what you did? So this is back in 2018. 2018, we had the whole audience draw images of anything, truly anything they wanted on slips of paper. Those slips of paper got dumped in one of those wind machines. You know like a money machine that you would be in Vegas
Starting point is 00:23:26 and catching the money, that sort of thing. Yeah. Or at a prize thing. And then I go in blindings. folded like you know tape on my eyes and a like a mummy mask i go in they shoot the pictures all over i catch one which by the way that was completely unrehearsed do you know how hard it is to grab a piece of paper flying around when you can't see anything you know i really truly was grabbing it air for like 30 seconds anyway finally got one and uh step outside and i'm holding it closed she starts sketching
Starting point is 00:23:57 and then when we open up the images they match and then we also validated with somebody the audience who drew it because we wanted to scratch off that maybe I had it up my sleeve. Or it was a plant. It was a plant. Who knows? And they truly did come up. They looked at all the slips. They were looking for cameras, earpieces, all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:16 And yeah, it went over their heads and we got that. We got the FU. Wow. Okay. So that's Penn and Teller Fool Us. That's amazing. I take it. You're not going to tell me how you did that, Trink.
Starting point is 00:24:26 Yeah, well, we did it well. No, I heard you. Yeah, you can keep a secret though. I paused. I thought maybe, yeah. It's okay. I know, a good magician doesn't share. No, I can't tell you.
Starting point is 00:24:40 You can't tell me. But it was thrilling. That was, it's, it is amazing that you fooled Penn and Teller, on Penn and Teller, fool us. And it's, that must be a gateway to. You mentioned America's Got Talent. We did America's Got Talent. We got to the semis. Well, let me play, like, just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:24:55 I don't even know what I pulled here, right? We'll just do a little bit here. We're going to have all four judges. No, no, no. Say yes. No, three. Yes, one, no. My name is Mysterion.
Starting point is 00:25:06 And I'm Steffi K. And we are the sentimentalist. From a very young age, I've had a very special connection with my grandmother. She passed away about 10 years before I was born. Even though I never met her, she's found ways to communicate with me. It makes me feel close to her. I always just had this ability to know what people were going to do before they do it, and it just creeped them right out.
Starting point is 00:25:30 I spent a lot of time alone, but one. Once Steffi and I met one another, I realize that there's somebody else like myself. When Mysterion and I work together, it magnifies our powers. It kind of feels like taking a test that I didn't study for, but I know all the answers. It is our dream to take our show
Starting point is 00:25:51 and bring it to a stage that is international. America's Got Talent is one giant leap closer to our biggest dream. Take it all the way out there, guys. Hey, can I ever? Do you run it a little longer? Sure. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Tell us your names, please. My name is Steffie Kay. And my name's Mysterion. We are mentalists. We like to get into people's minds and essentially mess your heads up. Good. And what better a stage than to do it here?
Starting point is 00:26:24 Well, we are here to hopefully see your life's change. You got it. Let's do it. Okay, I just wanted to get a little Simon Cowell in there. I'll bring it down now, although I could probably... Listen to the whole thing. It's quite entertaining here. But what can you tell us about this experience on America's Got Talent?
Starting point is 00:26:45 That's a big show, man. Roller coaster. There's no other word to describe it other than a roller coaster. They are so fast changing and what you've arranged gets changed at the last minute and everything is by the fly and then they pulled the seat from underneath you. and then they give you a script and then they tell you to change the script and it was a lot. We were there for something like 14 hours and we were on one of the last acts and they kind of didn't tell us what their intent was with us and then we didn't go through and then they changed
Starting point is 00:27:26 the act and we did go through. Then we went back and we got a standing ovation with Brad Paisley and then they were like, well, we can't use you because we had an act similar to you on last season. and we can't use you even though you're great. So we were upset. And then we got the judge picks with the, what do you call it? The, what did they call it? The judges picks, the public vote.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Right. And then we got that. And so we came back. And then, oh, it was just the third appearance. Don't watch the third appearance. It was one logistical nightmare after another. But we got to the semis, which is pretty darn good, considering all the barriers they were throwing at us.
Starting point is 00:28:06 then we went on Canada's and Canada's producers said, we promise you we will not do that. And they didn't. And we got to the semis on Canada. And then I went back on solo last year. Right. But I was called The Secret. Right.
Starting point is 00:28:23 And I was AI. And it was there, I wasn't even on the stage. It's my voice or a altered version of my voice where AI can read your mind. And the prediction was on the stage. folded up in a jar. Shanaya Twain picks something. And of course the AI is saying, I've studied you and I know what you're going to pick before you pick it.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Name something or somebody. And she says a name, Sharon or Shannon. And they open up the jar and that's what's inside. So it freaked them out. They were like, hell no, we don't want that back again.
Starting point is 00:28:55 It's too scary. And I'm like, that's fine. Whatever. I got paid. I was one of the only people I think they got paid to be on that season. So it was a lot of experience. I got a lot of an inside view of how the entire office.
Starting point is 00:29:06 operation runs. And I would go on again. I would go on AGT again for sure as a solo act. I'm currently I've applied for Fula solo and I'm talking to a consultant to come up with some fresh material for AGT. AGT is ignoring a lot of mentalism acts because there's so many now that they're not, they're getting overwhelmed. Okay. Now I can only imagine reaching the semifinals of America's Got Talent is incredible exposure. for your act. Like at that point, you know, I just, I heard you make a sales call
Starting point is 00:29:43 before we press record, but I'm guessing there's a lot of that and I'm guessing the invoice gets bigger and bigger. Sure, absolutely. We had hired a manager at the time because there was no way we could possibly do it all. I was getting calls four times a day, five times a day,
Starting point is 00:29:57 people asking us, you know, if we can come to their wedding or come to their corporate event, you know, everywhere from New York to Mexico to the States, to England and we did quite a bit. Again, we did a lot in Toronto because we were local. We really had that Toronto support.
Starting point is 00:30:17 There were, we did, in 10 years, we probably did about, I wouldn't even know, 5,000 shows. Wow. You know, if you figure, yeah, maybe about that, 4,500 shows in 10 years. It was a lot. We were putting out some nights we were, doing clubs and we were doing three or four on the same night. We were doing Nashville.
Starting point is 00:30:40 I remember we did 40 shows in one week in Nashville. That's a lot of shows. That's a lot of shows in a year. And we're shaking. Like at the end of the night, I'm like, we're not going to a restaurant of one person asks me to read their mind. And then I thought, no, if one person asked me to read my mind, that's great. I would love to do that because if it wasn't for those people, we wouldn't have this.
Starting point is 00:31:01 So we really did have a great opportunity and then things move on, you know. Yeah, well, I'm going to ask you the big question here, but before I ask you, the big one that's tapping away at my cranium here, I'm a fan of radio like I have on people. I just had my guest earlier today. I had a CFRB 1010 show, and he worked with John Donaby and some of these local legends, but the late great John Donaby. But of course, the name Alan Slate is well known to Toronto radio fans.
Starting point is 00:31:29 You won the Sentimentalists, I should say, won the Alan Slate Award for Outstanding Achievement in Magic? Yeah. That's, I don't know what that is, but that sounds impressive to me. So that was during 2020, so it was for the 2019 season. Essentially, Alan Slate had earmarked funding for magicians. Huge, obviously, fan of magic, magician himself, massive collection of magic and posters and this sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:31:58 And part of Magicana. and there was an award for Canadian acts who have gone above and beyond and put Canadian magic on the stage or on the world stage. And we were recognized for our achievements in doing AGT and fool us and all the amazing things we were doing and working on. We won a substantial sum of money and all the accolades that come with it. And I was shocked when we got that email, it was right when COVID hit. And I thought, oh, it's over.
Starting point is 00:32:32 We're never going to be working again. The world is coming to an end. Right. And there was this beautiful email that, you know, really just gave me that hope that one day we would be back on stage, which of course did happen. But it was at the right time. And it's an honor to have been able to have that. And forevermore in your bio you can open with award-winning mentalist. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:56 They can't take that away from me. No. No, I mean, you're talking to it. an award-winning podcaster. I know what that's like. You just add it to the bio and it's there forever. Why does Steffi Kay part ways with you? Why do the sentimentalists come to an end? Being on the road with somebody is tough. It's, you know, she's a lot younger than I am. She has a life outside of magic. She has relationships she wants to pursue and a home life she wants to live. And being on the road is a lot.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And I'm grizzled. I don't care. And I'm not tough, but I'm a little more like a bull. And some people, after a little while, just want to go, you know what? I experienced it. I want to move on in a different direction. And she knows the door is always open. We're friends.
Starting point is 00:33:57 We talk. I talk to her today. Funny enough, we actually, this is, this is the first time this is going public, we did a show a month and a half ago. The only one we've done since. It was a very small, small event at the Karloo for a fashion show. Okay. But we were on stage together hosting a fashion show and people were coming up to us and saying,
Starting point is 00:34:23 oh my God, look who it is. We're going, who, you know? And we were doing stuff for people. and it was like riding a bike. And I might be seeing her tonight. I mean, I was talking to her today, and she was up in Pentatang at her mums, and she's coming down to her home in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:34:43 And I said, you want to grab something to eat? And she said, I would love to. So tonight there's a chance that we're going to be sitting at a sushi restaurant somewhere in the annex and maybe talking about something down the road. We don't know. But the door is always open. She knows that. Remember, all the way with Stephanie King.
Starting point is 00:34:59 That's right. Okay, hey, it can keep going, right? That's wild. You did that small gig, so it's good to hear. You're on really good terms. Yeah, we're on fine terms, yeah. Sometimes these dynamic duos break up because they just hate each other's guts. No, we didn't hate each other at all.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Just things became a lot. And they were a lot for me, too. You know, it's hard to juggle personal life with work and be able to do it with a mile every single day. It's tough. Especially if you're, she was only in her early 20s. She's 22 in those foot in that footage. Right. Okay. Yeah. You got to remember that. Right. So I always had to remember what was I like when I was
Starting point is 00:35:41 22. I wanted to explore the world and meet people and be social and meet with girls and, you know, and that's that out, those opportunities weren't happening. So it's, it's unfair that in that instance, that was what was going on. Mysterion, will you live stream your annex. sushi tonight. So we could hear if there will be a reunion, maybe a reformation of the sentiment. You will see on my social media
Starting point is 00:36:05 if anything happens. Okay, everybody, live.tronomac.com. We're going to watch these two eat their sushi tonight. Okay, so you obviously, quick question also, you can't speak for Steffi Kay, but how does the COVID pandemic play a role in
Starting point is 00:36:21 maybe Steffey Kay, Steffy Kay feels maybe a little burnt out from this. We can't do our show. We were doing virtual. Believe it or not. And I'm going to let you know a little secret. We were going down to Nashville where everything was open because we have visas. So we were going and staying in Nashville and working down there.
Starting point is 00:36:42 So I would come home for a period of time, wait, then go back, do a run in Nashville for a certain amount of time, do the southern states and then come back. And then we did Canada's Got Talent once everything opened. Gotcha. Okay. So we were still active. Smashville is the secret sauce there. Yeah, that was it. I think we were the most locked down people on the planet here.
Starting point is 00:37:05 We were, but, you know. Oh, I'm no judgments here. It's what it is. Unprecedented was the word, I think we were, we'll toss around here. That was something new to deal with here. Okay, one more thing here before we talk about you solo, and I ask some silly questions I have about being a mentalist, but Mysterion, you are a collector of rare art,
Starting point is 00:37:26 work and antiques. Did I read that correctly? And more than that. Tell me about this. Well, where do I start? My name is Mysterian and I have a problem. I buy, or at one point, I bought a lot. I own everything from real two-headed animals, shrunken heads,
Starting point is 00:37:52 elongated human skulls. I have a corseted rib cage of a Victorian woman. I have a tattooed, full tattooed human mummy. I have animal oddities. I have medical curiosities in jars. That's just one room. Then the rest of the house is, as I like to call it, a catastrophe of toys that go back to the 1930s.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Every single toy line you can imagine, I have the complete line. Thousands and thousands and thousands of action figures. We're talking everything from every Johnny West, every Migo figure, every G.I. Joe, every Transformer, every L.J.N. Wrestler. I see George Steele right there. Every single toy you've ever thought of, chances are I have it. Where do you have the space for this? Well, I rent a very big house and I got it cheap and it's been there forever. So it's...
Starting point is 00:38:58 In Toronto? In Toronto, yeah. Okay, well. I'm there for 20 years. Wow, okay. So I have a four bedroom house with two people living in it. One office is just filled. And then the guest room is just filled and the my room's filled and the living room's filled.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And this other person is your wife? It's my wife. And she's okay. She better be okay. This is the room with the two-headed. She doesn't care. No, she's just as strange as I. am. She just as strange.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Well, you're a man free. She would steal it if she had the opportunity. She's waiting for me to go, so it's hers. It's such an interesting taste. I always think of a, like in utero, the Nirvana album cover and the stuff that, you know, Kurt was fascinated by, but you're not like setting random
Starting point is 00:39:37 fires or wetting your pants. No, not at all. No, I fell in love with the side show. I used to go to Niagara Falls and go to the Niagara Falls Museum and then when Billy Jamison purchased it, I remember going to his home. and seeing some of the displays
Starting point is 00:39:53 and really wanted to get a little piece from my own collection. And I ended up connecting with a fellow in the States who sold oddities before anyone was into this. And I bought a couple of small animal oddities. And I went down to New York. Well, this would have been in 99 or 2000. And there was a little store,
Starting point is 00:40:11 just this little slice of a store that sold weird antiques. They had, you know, medical curiosities and a dentists. drill and, you know, a human skull and a straight jacket and all this sort of thing. And I bought a book of, um, post-mortem photography for something like $80 or something. And that was what started it. And I started to go back and really start, I bought a capala, which is a Tibetan monk skull. And, and then it just went, it just went haywire.
Starting point is 00:40:42 And I started buying full mounts. I had a mutated, double-headed cow and a full horse that was in the house for a while. Wow. crazy stuff. And I got rid of some of it. I had a voodoo altar for a while that was featured on a show called Repossessed on Netflix. I sold it to a fellow in Toronto.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I also own the most paranormal active doll in Canada, Walt the doll. And he, I had to repair him the other day because I took him up to a, to a camp in Huntsville. And we were doing a show about three weeks ago. They wanted something spooky for the campers. They were all older teenagers and young adults so they could handle it. And I did a seance for them. And I kid you not when I started the seance, the lightning struck.
Starting point is 00:41:35 I'm like, yes. Well, you are good. They were freaking right out. But the doll finally had its last legs and the string broke inside of them. So I'm standing there and all of a, I hear everyone screaming. And I go, well, something just happened. And I turn around and I go, oh, my. doll is broke. The head had rolled
Starting point is 00:41:52 off the doll and the arms had fallen off because the string broke so I had to repair him but I have the Walt doll. I mean, I have everything. You could name something I have. And this is not available to the public. No, it's online. You could see it. I was going to do doors open but my house is just so crammed. You can't really
Starting point is 00:42:08 do anything in it anymore. I mean, hearing you tell a story about Walt there or whatever I'm thinking, this is like when you find out, oh, Steve Kersner has to repair Ed deSach. Yeah. Speaking of which I did a show with him last week. I love the guy I'm a big fan of Steve's Ed
Starting point is 00:42:26 I love Ed's song I was having a good laugh with that he folds it up and he puts it in his box and closes up and I'll tell you another funny story about a puppet I did a show in Brandon Manitoba with Mallory Lewis
Starting point is 00:42:39 Sherry Lewis's daughter yeah lambchops and she had the real lamb chops or one of the four and that song haunts me and it's the song that never and it just goes on and we were being shuttled back
Starting point is 00:42:50 from the venue to our respected hotel. She was in one. I was in another. And I'm going to mine now. She's been dropped off. And I look down and I see a little baggy. It looks like a napkin in there. And I pick it up and I go, oh no, lamb chops. So I didn't have her number. So I contacted the booker who got in hold of her. And, you know, an hour later she comes back. Oh, thank God. I thought I lost it.
Starting point is 00:43:12 She says, you didn't put your hand in lamb chops to you. And I'm like, no. Why would I do that? I'm not sick. I just have a rib cage. of a corset in my living room. But it's like, you don't put your hand in another person's puppet. I know the rules. I almost had on the show her return visit, but I was supposed to have Muffy Mouse on the show.
Starting point is 00:43:30 No. But she has been over, Nina Keo, but her parents were Howard the, crap, it's before our time. Howard the Duck. No, I wish. That's a whole different. I do remember the nude scene in Howard the Duck.
Starting point is 00:43:45 As a kid, I remember, there's a topless duck having a bath. I'm like, holy smokes. Duck boob. Okay, this is Howard the Turtle or something. I can't remember now, but there's an old Howard thing that would air on TV in Canada before our time, and Nina Keo's dad was behind this turtle. So they're a legacy family of puppeteers. She did a Mr. Dress-Up.
Starting point is 00:44:05 That's right. She's in the Mr. Dress-Up documentary, but she did today's special just at the Simpsons here. By the way, hearing all about, by the way, this rib cage with the corset just before I move on from it, like, I don't understand. Like, this is a human being that's been... So in Victorian fashion, corsets were tied so tight. Right. That as young women developed,
Starting point is 00:44:26 their, essentially their rib cages were pushed and augmented. Right. And so instead of having the shape that we would have, which is more straight, this one is more egg-shaped. Right. Folds in and it would have crushed their, you know.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Yeah, it was like binding. Inside. Yeah, it was horrified. And I have a bound skull. I have a beautifully elongated skull from Peru. A couple of them, actually. Okay. Well, that sounds like a good time for me to give you a little gift from Ridley Funeral Home.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Okay. That's measuring tape from Ridley Funeral Home. They're at 14th in Lakeshore. I believe it to be the last standing funeral home in the city where the family that owns and operates the funeral home live on the premises. Really? I think they're the last one. They live on the premises. They live on the premises.
Starting point is 00:45:13 And where is this? 14th in Lake Shores, so literally. I know where. It's right down the road. And that building's been there since 9th. 1921. Same family. No.
Starting point is 00:45:23 So Brad Jones and his family bought it in, I want to say like the 90s, I believe. I have to find out what year they take over. But the building has been a funeral home since 1921, and we just recorded yesterday an episode of Life's Undertaking with the owner and funeral director Brad Jones. So you got a measuring tape for you there. Wonderful. And real quick here, because then you know where I'm going. but fresh beer from Great Lakes Brewery.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Dave LeBlanc was just over here telling us the significance of the Great Lakes Brewery headquarters at 30 Queen Elizabeth Boulevard. It had a famous architect behind it, and it used to be a Faberge factory or whatever before the brewery took over, and it's got a great history, and now this fresh craft beer for you.
Starting point is 00:46:09 And last but not least, well, a couple more quick things. One is the Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. I'm going tonight, and I say that because I'm dropping this on Friday. So Friday night, 7.30, I'll be at Christy Pitts to watch the Maple Leafs play baseball. This is a book on the history of Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball for you. Mysterion.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Thank you. That's very cool. Well, I know they used to operate just down by the lake at one point, right? They did at Maple Leaf Stadium, which was where the tip-top tailors on their stadium road there now. But that, I think they shut that down in the 60s, and they moved to Christy Pitts in 69, I'd say. So that book is like 69 to the current day. And last but not least, in my freezer, upstairs, Mysterion is a delicious frozen lasagna from Palma pasta. I get to eat?
Starting point is 00:46:55 You get to eat, man. It's a lot of great lasagna going home with you with that beer, the measuring tape, and the book. Recycle MyElectronics.ca. That's where you go, Mysterion. If you have old cables, old electronics, old devices, you don't throw it in the garbage because those chemicals end up in our landfill. You go to Recyclemyelectronics.com. put in your postal code and find out where to drop that off to be properly recycled. And last but not least, much love to Nick Aienies.
Starting point is 00:47:20 He's got two great podcasts. One is called Building Toronto Skyline. The other is called Mike and Nick. And we record every couple of weeks and he was just on Toronto Mic. And I thank him for helping to step up and fuel the real talk here on Toronto Mike. Okay. So you're now solo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Although we'll see how it goes over sushi tonight. But you're now solo. Do you still, I know you made a lot of interesting. media stops. Like we always talk about, you know, we'll talk on this show about, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:48 Anne Romer on Breakfast Television or Pugent Gerdipe on CP24 and, oh, they're at CHFI now. And, oh, you know, Anne Romer's long gone, actually, on breakfast television. But these are the kind of shows where you would pop on
Starting point is 00:48:02 and do your mentalist thing, right? That's right. And recently I've done CDTV, BT. Breakfast television, yeah. And, uh, I'm always on CHCH out of Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Home of Billy Van. Yep, that's right. Home of Billy Van of the House of Frightenstein. You got it. And Mitch is a friend of mine. Okay, yeah. Mitch is a longtime friend. Okay, good to hear.
Starting point is 00:48:26 You know, recently even as a solo act, making the cover of Vanish magazine, Magic Magazine, which is a big, big deal for me, because all the press I ever had was in the duo from at least the magic perspective. Right. And here I was being given a beautiful. beautiful 10-page article on my career in Vanish this past January.
Starting point is 00:48:49 I read it at the dentist's office. Ah, yeah. Well, that was more painful than the appointment. So, okay, so where was it going on? Yeah, so you do a lot of CHC, CHCH. You do the morning show there, I suppose, particularly at CHCH, the morning show. Morning live? Yes, morning live.
Starting point is 00:49:06 And you talked about breakfast television. Were you on when Dina was on? Do you remember? No. Because Dina, there's a whole controversy. I don't think it's a controversy because she's got a good deal for herself. But she lives, I think, in the Cayman Islands, and she flies for like a week and records the whole month of episodes or something.
Starting point is 00:49:21 And then she flies. She's got a good deal going on. That's a great, sweet deal. You know what? That's a really, really good deal here. So you do all that. You're booking gigs solo. Are you being, your Mysterion the Mind Reader.
Starting point is 00:49:33 That's who you would see today. That's how you're billing yourself. Mysterio on the Mind Reader is the website. It is my old name. It's now Mysterion the man who sees tomorrow. But I'm not, you know, we don't have to get specific. Okay, well, no, I'm curious about the other, you know, all the details here. The man who sees tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Okay, so I'm a skeptic, okay? So you do this thing and you got this, it's magic, essentially, and you won't reveal tricks of the trade. So, but I don't understand, do you, do you believe you read minds or? You can read thoughts. I'll tell you right now. I tell you what. You're thinking about that lasagna right now.
Starting point is 00:50:11 I'm thinking of the lasagna and the beers, but I've written a number down on this paper. Okay, okay. Before we even got to this, I wrote this down about 10 minutes ago, put it down on the pizza or on the lasagna. Right. I'm going to say some numbers to you right now.
Starting point is 00:50:24 Okay. All right, 2, 12, 20, 24, 22. Tell me any other number. Say one out loud, quick. 11. Why that? Because George Bell wore it with the Toronto Lujays. That's what I have written on the paper.
Starting point is 00:50:37 Okay, you know what? See, I'm here witnessing this, And it does blow my mind. Like, I don't know how you freaking do it, but that's kind of amazing. Thank you. But you did that. Somebody tipped you off. I always say 11.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Somebody tipped you off. You've been inside source. George Bell. You're like, I know this guy I love George Bell back in, in, there's actually George Bell's on the wall there. You saw that calendar and you said, of course he's going to pick your stuff. Well, I was looking at number 11 on the calendar. So you're so affected at this that I don't know how you do it.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I'm like Penn and Teller over here. I'm the guy who talks, Penn talks, right? Yes. Okay. Did you ever catch Teller talking? Of course. I've had long conversations with him in the back. And at magic conventions.
Starting point is 00:51:20 He's more talkative. That's what I've heard, but I've never really heard him talk here. So you're checking your watch. No, I'm doing something for you right now. It's going to say, you're late for your next magic. I got time. I got time. I don't know how you did that.
Starting point is 00:51:34 Like I'm impressed. Tell you what? Touch my watch. Just touch the watch. Yeah, just touch it. Hold your hand on it. Tell me a time. Any time of day that comes to your mind, say it out loud.
Starting point is 00:51:46 10, 12. Why that? Just a random time, I don't know. Is it really that random? If I pull my sleeve back and it's set to that time, would that freak you out? Yeah, I don't know. Because it's exactly where I set the watch a second ago. So it's got to be like a, it's not.
Starting point is 00:52:02 In this, I don't know how. Oh, it's gone. That's right here. It's over here. Like, that's real. Like, you took a pencil and you wrote 11 because my mind is, oh, it's some special pad where somehow he presses a button where it hears the number
Starting point is 00:52:15 and then it puts it there I don't use any electronics Okay I'll tell you So how do you do that? You're not gonna reveal it I can't tell you But that watch trick is amazing
Starting point is 00:52:21 Thank you. Here tell you what I'm such a skeptic I know you're skeptical So I brought this for you This is a little book And in here are different various times of day
Starting point is 00:52:30 You see on the top Yeah I see it I'm flipping through here If you're listening There's all different times Of 10 20, 14, 14, military time And regular time
Starting point is 00:52:39 For us, you know, Roobes. Okay, I want you to just flip through like that and just stop on one of them. Go for it. Just go for it. Okay. Now open it up. Look at the time on the top.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah. If you have to take a moment to translate it, do that. All right, you got it. And you see, I'm wearing a watch right there and it's set to 10, 12, which you stopped on. But if you go up my arm a little more. Yeah. I have a tattoo of a time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:07 And it says the time you're thinking of. Can I see the pad or is that not allowed? You can see it. There you go. Because there's... What page is up, what you remember? It was 3pm,
Starting point is 00:53:15 which was 1,500. I don't remember the page. Oh, there it is. And Mysterion's tattoo has that time on it, 3 p.m. But there's many times... There's no other times on me. And I can touch this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Doesn't come off. That's permanent. But the pad I saw had many different times. Yeah, they're all different. Only the... So what is it that... How, I'm trying to think how... No matter where I stop,
Starting point is 00:53:40 is it always going to be three of you? No. No, no, of course. There's a couple of novels right there behind you. Can you pass those over to me please? Okay, track changes. See, you're not going to trust the one I brought you. Pass me the other one as well.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Okay, Battle of the skyscrapers by Nick Aeney. These are wonderful books you got in your hand here. Let's see what we got here. Okay. And Battle of the skyscrapers. Okay, touch one of these two books. Okay, take it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Say stop on mine as I flip. Stop. Okay, 6-4. Open yours to 6-4. Don't let me see what it. it says on page 6.4. I want you to imagine the first couple of words on the top left side. Is 6-4 on the left side?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Yep. Okay, look at the top two words. Hold the book up so I don't accidentally peek, even though there's no way I can see. You can see it. Okay, look at me, bring it down just a bit. Look at me. Think of the first letter of the first word.
Starting point is 00:54:31 Okay. Think vowel, consonant, just look at me. It's a consonant. Think about how many letters are in that word. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. It's a four-letter word beginning with an S. Is that right? That's correct.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Okay, I want you to focus on the word S-O. It's fucking tripping me, man. Is it Sons? Sony, Sony. Sony music. I even got the next word is music. I got a, I need a moment. Can I have a moment?
Starting point is 00:54:56 Can I have a moment to process us? Okay. My brain is trying so hard to figure out how you do it. It's so I'm on page 64 of track changes. And the first line is Sony music has always prideed itself on being in, artist's first label. These are your books. Yeah, this is Cam Gordon's
Starting point is 00:55:15 freaking book. There's no way you didn't know. And I could have chose the other book. So how, is there a reflection of my eyeglasses? Even if there was, how could I see? I know.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I know. I'm trying to find a way. Just say stop on one of these pages. Just say stop. Stop. Okay. Look at the first word on that page. Okay.
Starting point is 00:55:34 You see it? Yeah. They're all different, right? Yeah, they're all different. Yeah. And so how did you stop on the word on my ring? Yeah, okay, I don't, I need a moment here because I'm so fucking skeptical, pardon my French, Mysterion, that I'm like, what's his, this is like a magician, you do a card trick at sleight of hand, you know, I saw you do the card trick before I pressed record for the people and I said, oh, like that's a good trick. I guess it's a special deck of cards or whatever, but these last few tricks you've done, it seems to me like you're reading my mind. mystery on the mine
Starting point is 00:56:08 right. You know what? I don't, I need a moment because, you know, people are going to think, oh, I'm helping you or something, but I'm not. I don't know you anything. I was going to ask you, I was going to ask you how you do it. Like, this is bullshit. How do you do it? You can't read minds.
Starting point is 00:56:23 But all these things I can't explain. Nobody can read minds. I'm going to be the first person to tell you. No one can read minds. Thank you. But I am very proficient at the art of illusion in the world of mentalism and creating the idea of slight of thought, slight of mind. That turtle, by the way, was Howard the Turtle and Razzle Dazzle.
Starting point is 00:56:49 I just popped over to the live stream. The Keough, the Nina Keogh's dad. Somebody. Howard the Turtle. Yeah. It was a show called Razzle Dazzle. So this is, again, we're 74 babies here. This is way before our time.
Starting point is 00:57:04 You're born in 74 as well? sir. Yes, sir. Look at me for a second. Touch one of my hands. Say stop. Stop. Right here?
Starting point is 00:57:11 Yeah. So you have a tattoo right there on my arm. You want to see what it is? If it's a fucking turtle, I'm leaving the show. Oh, look what it says. It says. 1974. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Well, that's not a trick at all. That's your birth year. It's your birthday. You should have said, I have your birth year. Your name is underneath. Yeah. It's like, is your name, Chris? No.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Okay. So how to remind me, like, while I collect my thoughts here, I've never been so befuddled here, but how do people find out where they can see you live? This is quite entertaining. My next show, believe it or not, is at the Red Sandcastle Theater on July 31st, so it's in two weeks. My mom's birthday.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Yep, you can bring mom. I would bring my mom for her birthday. There you go. And I'm going to be performing with a young man named Francisco Perez, and he's a young mentalist, a very fun, um, talent. I met him a few months back at the catacomb cabaret. Oh.
Starting point is 00:58:11 He, um, he impressed me with a few tricks, him and his lovely, uh, partner. And they're kids. They're, they're like 20, 21 year old kids, but really good people. And, you know, he wanted a little bit of help. And so I gave him, uh, you know, some, not guidance, but, you know, I've sat with them a few times and you're mentoring him. Mentoring him to a degree. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And, and, and I said, hey, listen, why do we do it? a show together and let's make it rock. I want to do a show with you. Let's do a show. I feel like this experience is such that I I just want to figure out how you do it. I want to know the tricks.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Do I have to ply you with some great legs, get you a little buzzed? Do you still have your soul? I think so. Well, we can make an arrangement. All right, so you've been amazing. Thank you. We need to take a photo by Toronto Tree
Starting point is 00:58:58 before you fly away or whatever you mind readers do, you mentalists do. But I do want to ask you quickly, because we're the same age, we both watched a lot of much music. Oh, yeah. Okay. And you have been on much music, am I right? Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:13 800 times. Can you shout out some of the VJs you were on with? I just want to remember some VJs. Rick Campanelli. Okay, the temp. Is he still the temp? I think he's at CHFI. He's at, uh, yes.
Starting point is 00:59:26 Or Breakfast Television? No, he's not there. Okay. He's at CHFI. Um, you know, I don't remember any of the VJs. You don't remember? Okay. I don't remember them.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I've been on so many times. You can't read. Oh, Ted, Teddy from Space TV. I've been on that a bunch of times. And there's a much music brand. You know, all kinds of people. Have you ever read Moses Nymer's brain? I've never met him.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I only met him once. I tried to get him on the show. I saw him once at the Dominion on Queen for two seconds. He was sitting there and I went, oh, that was it. I never said anything. Is that place still open or is it going? I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:04 I don't really go out. Well, you got a lot going on at home. Mysterio on the mind reader. I got to say, you blew my mind today. That's not easy to do. Well, I'm glad I did. Hopefully it, uh... If I rough you up by Toronto Tree,
Starting point is 01:00:18 we could tell me how you did it. It ain't gonna happen. That clock one is messing my head up because there were so many different times and I chose the one that was 1,500. And your damn tattoo has 3 p.m. on there. You don't want an over 6 o'clock is tattooed. Oh.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Oh, my goodness. How was this experience for you? I had a blast. Thanks for having me on. Okay, invite me over when you make that lasagna. You're more than welcome. I want to see that ribcaged, the corset on the ribcage. I've got to see how that presents.
Starting point is 01:00:50 Yeah, I can show you it right now. All right, I'm going to see it now before I read my little extra. And here we go. Okay. All right, I'm opening it up on Facebook, on Insta. Am I getting a reception? Got any data down here? No.
Starting point is 01:01:04 You're in the dungeon, baby. I'm in the dungeon, buddy. I'll check it over you after. At the tree, you'll show me. Yeah. And that brings us to the end of our 1,935th show. The one in which my mind got blown. That's my mind, everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I get your head out of the gutters there. My mind got blown multiple times. Go to tronomike.com for all your Toronto mic needs. And it's Mysteriontheminder.com. Is that where people can go? Yes, absolutely. All right, see this guy, man. This is entertaining stuff here.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Holy smokes. Move over, Sir Jerry. Well, Surgery is for younger side. Maybe I'll crash his show and just terrorize the kids again. Honestly, if they can afford the therapy bills, if the parents can afford the therapy bills. Much love to all who made this possible. That is Great Lakes Brewery.
Starting point is 01:01:56 You got your beer. Palm of pasta. I'm going to get your lasagna. Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball. You've got your book, Nikaiini's, Recycle My Electronics.C.A. And Redley Funeral Home.
Starting point is 01:02:10 See you all Monday. I'm recording live at Scatting Cabin, everybody. Scatting Cabin is the oldest human-made structure in the city of Toronto. Where is that right by the Eaton Center? They moved it, no, they moved it. So it's right by the CNE. Oh, it's the C&E.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Yes, of course. Not far for the Banshell. And I'm at the C-E. If anyone wants to watch me, I'm at the C&E the last six days. That's amazing. Did you know I was going to say the C&E? Well, I, everything happens and comes together for a reason. See you all Monday from Scatting Cabin, everybody.

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