Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Nu Metal!: Toronto Mike'd #886

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

This 70th Pandemic Friday, Mike kicks out nu metal jams with Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. Surprise guest Hawksley Workman gets things started by kicking out the first jam.

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from torontomike.com and joining me for this 70th Pandemic Friday is Cam Gordon and Stu Stone. See, Mike, we're posing. Let's just get right into it. We lost one of the greats this week, Mr. Wonderful, Paul Orndorff. What a talent.

Like, I kind of forgot about him because I feel like he was not winding up when I first got into wrestling, but was definitely didn't last as long as some. But, God, just like one of the greats. Well, I'm going to crack open at Great Lakes right now. This is for Mr. Wonderful. And then I'm going to talk to Stu about a, I think it was a TikTok originally, but I didn't see it on TikTok. Oh, Paul Orndorff.

Paul Orndorff. So here is some Great Lakes beer, tipping my can to Paul Orndorff, Mr. Wonderful. I'm going to do that too. This is surreal. So Stu, I'm looking at, I don't know where I saw it. Instagram maybe? Because I'm not on TikTok. I mean, I'm all over the place now.

But you have posted this great, the turn the heel take us back so this is listen for wrestling fans who are listening to the program and i know there are a few of you out there uh a lot of us a generation of us i would say people who are maybe within a few years younger than me to maybe mike a little bit older than mike even, I would say that, you know, a lot of people started watching WrestleMania, obviously, by WrestleMania I. You had Mr. T and Hulk Hogan taking on Rowdy Roddy Piper and his partner, Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff. Paul Orndorff.

And, of course, after WrestleMania, Orndorff turned good, him and Piper. Piper was the bad guy, and Orndorff turned good, and then Orndorff was good. Him and Piper. Piper was the bad guy and Orndorff turned good. And Orndorff was a good guy. Right? Right. So now you're looking fast forward to this 1980 summer of 86 when Hulk

Hogan and Mr. Wonderful had this infamous moment where they were teaming up against the Heenan family. King Kong Bundy and Big John Studd. Both of them who also passed away. And this is my heyday. You're in my heyday right now. Dastardly, dude.

Wow. I would say that this heel turn, where Orndorff turned bad, that was the angle, to use the wrestling term, that hooked a lot of people. That went from casual, spectacle, Mr. T, okay, I'll check out Saturday Night's Main Event, I might watch it a few times. Like gimmicky.

It was more gimmicky. It was just the storyline that got people hooked. And I'll tell you how I know that. Tell me. Because in Toronto, they broke an attendance record at the CNE. You were working at the fucking thing with Joey Jeremiah. I wasn't there working yet. But I was, again, you guys laugh.

We bring it up all the time. But all of us were at this event, right? Yeah. I wasn't there. I wasn't there. yet, but I was, again, you guys laugh, we bring it up all the time, but all of us were at this event, right? Yeah, I wasn't there. I wasn't there. Why do I think we're all there? Farbsy was there. Well, he, Farbsy and he peed in a cup.

And he peed. We've told the story. But I was, I went with my buddy Chris Lang. I was there. Shout out to Michael Lang. My point is, the Hulkamania show

at the C&E in Toronto. The big event. The big event. The big event. Right. It was the precursor to them booking the Silverdome and selling out the record with Hulk versus Andre. Now, the Hulk-Andre heel turn came after Orndorff, but boy, oh boy, that Orndorff thing set the table

for a lot of us to get hooked on wrestling. Big fucking deal. There you go. Absolutely. Now, what pisses me off mildly is I see Lieve Fumke, who's not a wrestling fan. She's at live.torontomike.com.

She's commenting, and she asks this innocent question. I thought Kevin O'Leary was Mr. Wonderful, but that's bullshit. Well, no, I guess I'm sure that Kevin O'Leary knows who Paul Orndorff is. Well, Paul Orndorff predates Kevin O'Leary by decades. But there was a Mr. Wonderful that predated Paul Orndorff.

Really? No, mind blow. Tell me who. There's this guy named Rock Riddle. He's like a California wrestler from the 60s and 70s. He went by Mr. Wonderful. And he shows up at all the old-timer conventions and makes sure that you know the original Mr. Wonderful.

But Paul Orndorff was the one that really got over. The nature boy. There's multiple natures. Okay, so much love and respect to Paul Orndorff. Yes. He will be missed.

Don't call him Paula. You know what won't be missed? You know what won't be missed? What? Fleets. Oh. You didn't design. You didn't actually develop the fle't actually Wow Develop the fleets

Right Cam You're just a You're just a communication I just I just work here No Yeah I mean Fleets debuted

Did anyone use fleets I need to know Fame is fleeting Mike Yeah Did you ever fleets do I did not I Is that the way

The stories Is that what you mean In Twitter I did it a few times But you know You didn't I didn't jump on it Do you know

You don't have to tell me it. Do you know the meta? You don't have to tell me, obviously, but do you know what percentage of Twitter users have fleeted? By the way, hold on. I just want to come to your rescue here. My publicist here. Yeah, because you don't need to deal with this shit. You came here to have a good time.

We're here to talk new metal. Listen, when Facebook, your favorite Facebook, they try new shit all the time. Some of it is good. Some of it is not. They tried something. It worked on other places. They tried.

They're trying to make things that work other places. Maybe it'll work here. Maybe it won't. They try. So that's how you try. Yeah, like we thought this would be, you know, an easy way for people to get into it. Here's a format of ephemeral content. Now I feel bad.

Stu made me feel bad. No, it's okay. I mean, Aussie Stu nailed what our comms messaging was. It's not a big deal. You took a big swing. Yeah, it wasn't even a big swing. But you were swinging for the fences. It wasn't even a miss

because it's like it could have worked, but people just didn't want to do it. They do it somewhere else. They come to Twitter to tweet, and that's what they're doing. Speaking of big swings, am I right that there's a U.S. release date for faking a murder? Yes.

That's true. You are right about that. What is that date? What's the big date? What did you hear about that? I feel like I've seen it on your socials. Sure. Now, okay, so for the record, most, I'll be honest, demographically, I have to be very

honest with you. The vast majority. There's a guy in Detroit. Yes, you're right. There's a guy in Detroit. And there might're right. There's a guy in Detroit. And there may be more. There are some in upstate New York. I think when the lowest of the low and tragically hips spilled over,

I think I got some fans there. The vast majority of listeners right now are based in Canada. That's just a fact. But for the American listeners, or maybe people in Canada have a relative in the States, what can they do to support you? Here's how it works, folks. We need your help.

You guys were so great, the listeners of this program, back in September. This pogrom. How do you say that word? Program. Okay. Back in September when I needed you guys and you tweeted and you at Hollywood tweeted to the point where the president of the fucking company came on this show and was like Stu is great at social media. David Kynes.

You guys. That was you guys. So how you could help me is we just do it again. August the 6th. You did it once. August the 6th. I'll give you a whole new company to tag but Hollywood Sweets good too. They should know. They're

a big part of this film, for sure. Okay, so... And it's coming out August 6th in the United States, much like Jack of All Trades was released. It came out in Canada first, then a year later it was available on iTunes, and then Netflix picked it up. Send some fleets about this. Is there any chance... No one will ever hear about it. Oh, fuck off.

Is there any chance that you're going to be in the States for the launch of the release? I am. Is that official? Is that confirmed? That's confirmed. Okay, so pandemic fans.

But my return date is not confirmed yet. So don't get too excited yet. Okay, but there's a pandemic Friday on August 5th. Yeah, so there's a chance I will be here. Okay, I've already replaced you, but I'm happy to do something with four of us. Well, then I'm going to just stay there. Look at this. Dan Duran over here. I'm just going to stay

there. I see how this is going. Are you guys going to talk about tears are not enough? Is that what's happening? Because we always had in the schedule our favorite jams from east of Ontario. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's good. I have a bonafide music person. I like this. Okay, I like it too. We did Westerly with Sammy Cone.

And Newfoundland, which doesn't consider it something. Shout out to Sloan. And Newfoundland, which doesn't consider itself Maritimes. Shout out to Sloan. Now, I said, who can I get to sub for Stu? Sloan. Who is great. That would have been great. But instead, I got a Maritimer we love.

Classified. An FOTM Maritimer. That's not classified. An FOTM Maritimer. Can I guess? Who loves music and is great in the backyard. Go ahead. Oh.

Can anybody guess? And I'm going to let the people at live.torontomic.com guess. An FOTM Maritimer who loves music with great passion and is great in the backyard. I have two guesses. It's not David Alter.

Jonathan Torrens. Good guess. Not Jonathan Torrens. And this person is going to be in the backyard. Damnette Doyle. It's another good guess, but no. Who's's Going to be in the backyard Nice Damn Ned Doyle It's another good guess But no Who's it going to be Stan Rogers

Somebody guessed it In the chat And let me tell you Lieve Fumka Has redeemed herself She says Ben Rayner Ben Rayner is joining us

Cam Gordon Oh fuck On a very special Pandemic Oh my Oh my god But Stu If you can make it

I'll make it a foursome I'm out No thank you I don't get that I actually I always forget he's from these shows. He's a Maritimer, true and true. Big timer.

He's a big number. He's a big number in the Maritimes. Yes. Okay, so that's exciting. That's huge. That's August 5th. So August 6th, however, the movie will be out, available. And you'll be in L.A. for August 6th?

August 3rd. Oh, I see. I might be here the 5th. Well, we're going to make it work. Maybe I'll just listen to the show. We're going to make it work, okay? I might just stay for the weekend now, just like frolic.

It'd take a long weekend. Stu, here's a big real talk question. You know, I'll ask the question. You can answer it as you wish, as usual. Is there any possibility that at the conclusion... That we're going to speak together? We're going to speak to each other after? Is that where you're going with this?

That's unlikely. But at the conclusion of Pandemic Friday... Can I get a lasagna, by the way? My mom asked. Yes, I have one for you. Okay. August 27th is the finale for Pandemic Friday. Right.

What if Pandemic Friday ends and then you drive off to Kingston, Ontario as a new morning show host? Now, that's an interesting conversation. Does Cam know about any of this? I gave him a tip. I've heard rumblings? I gave him a tip. I've heard rumblings.

I gave him a tip. Let's just catch everybody up. Yes. Because this is real. This is fucking amazing. This is like, okay, before you go to bed, leave a famka. This is a shoot. She goes to bed at like 8.30. Yeah, she might want to wait.

We still got eight minutes, famka. And I'll get this story out quick. All the listeners, if you're listening to this on double speed, fuck you. Put it back to normal speed. I was going to say, it's 1236 here? You need to report this. This is big. Big, everybody.

So a couple of weeks ago, I went on another program. Cheated on me. Called Bob's Basement. Great guy. TMDS production. Sure. Great basement. Great guy.

And I just did the show because he's an FOTM and he's a good guy. And I had a great conversation with him. We talked about Cam. We talked about Mike. I listened. We talked about Lever Famke. A lot of wrestling talk. We talked about Juan.

Talked about Bojana. We talked about Kareem and Beck and Moose Grumpy. We talked about everybody. We had a great talk. Jokeroo. Jokeroo. We had a great fucking. Joe Carew. Joe Carew. Cop down the street. We had a great fucking talk.

Bob Bran. And then I came on to a Pandemic Friday episode a few days later, and Mike said to me, hey, I heard you on Bob's podcast, and it was really great. I'm like, oh, thanks. He's like, you know, he's like the program manager, a program director at a radio station. I said, oh, yeah?

He said he's looking for a morning show guy. And I said, station. I said, oh, yeah? He said he's looking for a morning show guy. And I said, oh. I said, where is it? He said, it's in Kingston. I said, Jamaica? And he said, Ontario. And I thought, huh. And then I said, you guys started asking me, oh, you should do it, you should do it.

And I said, listen, an offer only. Tell them to make me an offer, and then we'll talk about it. And then we kind of moved on from it, right? Well, remember last week I guessed the salary. You did guess the salary, but I also said for the record, I'm like, I don't want to, I'm not going to say, show me an offer. Right. Folks, this is a true story.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Now you've heard a lot of bullshit over the last 70 weeks on this show. Almost entirely. 1236 is angry listening to this show because of all the bullshit that's on it. But this is true. This is not from Wikipedia. This is from firsthand.

I was there. Shout out Rosie Gray. Shout out to Alan Cross. I was there when this happened. Right. Now here's what happened. Cam, the next day. I'm listening.

I got an offer. I was witness to this. This is happening. I feel like I'm brokering the deal almost. Bob's Basement has offered me the morning show, the Kingston morning show. This is not a work. Yeah, this is not a work. With a number that I'm not going to say out loud, but it was higher than what Mike guessed.

Wow. And we'll just leave it at that. Okay, I won't say another word. I promised him I wouldn't say the word number. And from what I understand, it was a higher offer than industry standard for people that have been doing this for 20 years. In Kingston, yeah. Yes. A high Kingston rate.

Right. Right. 5.30 in the morning, Kim, is when the show starts until 10 a.m. Those are Kevin Frank-ish hours. There's already a young lady that is in the seat right now waiting for a... Monica, that's right. My wife. Your wife, Monica.

Has moved to Kingston. Matt Layton. And she's got the show there. I guess there was a guy named Al. Shout out to Al. But I don't think he's there anymore. Not so good, Al. And they're looking to fill that seat.

The seat has been offered to me. But you have to move to Kingston. I would anymore. Not so good, Al. And they're looking to fill that seat. The seat has been offered to me. But you have to move to Kingston. I would have to move to Kingston, Ontario. So tell us, because the special guest is going to kick up the first jam in three minutes, although then I'm going to come back to this chat. But would you move to Kingston for this gig? I mean, listen, this is, honest to God, out of respect to Bob and his offer, which is very respectful,

I respectfully am considering it. But I think it's going to happen. So let me talk to the, I'll talk to the FOC. I did not say no to him. I said, I got to think about this. I think that Pandemic Friday ends with Stu Stone getting a radio show. Heading to Kingston, fucking Ontario. To start a radio show.

Home of the Tragically Hip to have a morning show. Yeah. Home of Doug Gilmore Kirk Muller Don Cherry This is amazing I told Bob I need some time And I would like to include

The listeners of this show Who have gotten to know me Over the last year and a half To participate In the discussion. Should I? Should I not? What are the pros? What are the cons? And I'll give my answer.

You never know, but it might happen to come, my answer of what I'm going to do next. I'm so excited. On July the 20th, or sorry, on August the 26th, on Humble and Fred, when I am a guest at 8 o'clock in the morning. Wow. So that's the date of the final.

I will make my announcement when I'm on Wow. of what I'm going to I might make it. You know that would blow their fucking mind. I haven't decided

if I'm going to make the announcement there but that's what I'm leaning towards. That's the morning of the final. No, no. The day before the final. Wow. I'm going on there

to promote the finale. People come out and meet and greet and give Cam a big hug. August 27. I'm going on there to promote the finale. People come out and meet and greet. Of course, yeah. Give Cam a big hug. August 27. It's going to be a big deal. August 26, I'm on Humble and Fred, and that's where I think.

Huge. If that's, you know, I might make up my mind sooner if someone gives me a compelling argument. Sure, sure. But I will say. This is amazing. I will say, and Mike, you were on the chat, so you saw. I saw all of them. You were there too.

I was on, there was a chat. Me, Bob, and Stu. Mike was sort of middleman-ing. I said. Petereter gross i will say mike got me more money he did i said he did get me more money stew stone would be fucking great on kingston morning radio he did do that i will say mike did go to bat i did not ask him to i can't disagree but he did go to bat and bob is the man and listen i think i'd do a good job. This all matches up. Like, Stu Sout in the morning.

Stu Sout and Monica in the morning. Wake up, K-Town. Let me tell you this. Bojana is waiting for you. Give us a call. Six cars gonna get tickets to see who's coming to town. Belinda Metz.

When Humble and Fred hear you announce that you're going to Kingston as a new morning man, they're going to lose their fucking minds. It's going to be an unbelievable moment. I don't know if I'm gonna make the announcement to Hum their fucking minds. It's going to be an unbelievable moment.

I don't know if I'm going to make the announcement on Humble and Fred. Because you're going to make it here. I should do it. Do it here on the finale. I should just do it at the finale. Save it for the finale. I should save it for the finale. Did you guys hear a bell?

I heard. Okay. I should save it for the finale. But this is true. This is not a work. Right. We'll get back to it because I'm not letting this go. Okay.

Last week, our special guest who was going to kick out the first jam never showed up and she's very sorry and she's going to come and make amends. This week's topic, which we haven't even announced yet, is new metal. We have a very special guest joining us to kick out the first jam. Again, I can see this guest. Stu and Cam cannot see

this very, very special guest joining us. Hello, special mystery guest. Who the hell are you? Somebody very mysterious indeed. Okay, I'm looking at the faces. So you can't see this unknown person. I can see Stu's face.

He's in my backyard, Stu Stone. Cam Gordon is here. I'm looking at him. We're both very perplexed. Can you give us a little more? Maybe just chat us up a little more. This is like that show where you have to guess who the celebrity is. I was going to say, it's

one of the greatest losses to CBC television. Front page challenge. Put it back on. Let's all gather around. Let's get our faces in front of it. Let's take it in. Let's absorb this thing. Okay, mystery guest. I'm going to live.toronomike.com because there are people watching us live.torontomic.com because there are people watching us live to see if anybody has a guest there they have a little bit of a delay so

i have to vamp a little bit uh maybe start telling us some of the things that have made you a uh a famous human being mystery guest well i'm not too too. There was moments when I was on TV. Famous-ish. Oh, God. Okay. Cam looks like he knows it. Who do you think this is? Do you think this is Gino Vanelli? No.

I have a sneaky suspicion, too. This is big. I think just... This is big for Cam. This gentleman... Cam is blushing already. No, performed at Lollapalooza, if that's who I think it is. No.

You do not have the right person. That's okay. That also famous that person. You think it is. No. You do not have the right person. That's okay. That also famous that person. You think it's James B. It's not James B. Are you James B. mystery person? No, no, no, no. Okay, not James B.

Okay. Do you know who James B. is? I know who James B. is. I used to hang out with James B. a little bit at the Reverb in Toronto. Like the Reverb. Wow. Do you think James B. is famous? in Toronto.

Like the reverb. Wow. Do you think James B. is famous? Well, I did, I know that this is kind of an ongoing discussion amongst your group, and I mean, Wait, wait, wait. Let's just be honest.

It's an ongoing decision in Mike's head, not his group. We do. Somebody's guessed it correctly in the chat. Should I just end the... Again, Lieve Thumpka. That's the second time she's nailed these things. Is it Hawksley? This is Hawksley Workman. Oh my god.

What a get. You've done outdone yourself again. You had to write a big check to get him to come here. One of the finest new metal stars this country has ever produced. For sure. Fantastic. Hawk,

how are you doing, buddy? It's great to see you. I'm the only one who gets to see you, but you look great. You're wearing a nice hat. How are you doing, buddy? Yeah, I'm excellent. Thank you so much for asking. It's been a lovely summer. It's just teeming with green out there. I know that it's been a storm.

There's been tornadoes. But, you know, yeah, no, no, all great, great, great, great. How about you? Where is he living? Peterborough, Ontario now. Peterborough. Perfect. Home of the Peets.

That voice you just heard, by the way, might be the new morning man on Kingston radio. Yeah, close. He can still get it, I think, on the iHeartRadio app. And he'd be kicking out. You definitely will play some Huxley work. For sure. I think he's already on the format there.

Oh, that sounds good. Hey, I saw those job postings, actually. It was... Yeah, listen, spoiler. It's spoken for. Well, you can have the afternoon... Hawk could have the afternoon drive. We should do Hawk and Stew in the morning.

I'd love that because I'm a morning person. I'm ready to be a live alert and make an art in the a.m. That's what I would love. But Hawk, because I know the program director. You'd actually be better than me. We should stop this conversation. Nice set of pipes. Hawk, you have to move to Kingston for the gig.

You can't do it from Peterborough. You can commute. I don't even know what that commute is. I think there's a GO train. It's a long commute. I couldn't do that. Not in the morning. I'd be getting up at, I wouldn't be going to bed, I don't think know what that commute is. I think there's a GO train. It's a long commute. I couldn't do that. Not in the morning. I'd be getting up at,

I wouldn't be going to bed, I don't think. That's fine. You know, I'm ready to sacrifice for that. Now, the format, I think,

is like hot AC, 90s, 2000s, like wallflowers followed by some Goo Goo Dolls with maybe the Killers to spice it up at 10 a.m. A little Sean Colvin,

if you want. Is this the type of stuff that you would be comfortable playing? Look, I know that the reality of radio is the guy who's talking on the radio does not pick the songs. He's just there to keep us entertained. Correct. That's right. You know, look, you said the Wallflowers.

I love that record, the Bringing Down the Horse record. I could play that. No, no, second album. Oh, yeah, nothing on the second album. Not the one headlight. That was a good jam, one headlight. Hawk hawk we're gonna talk to you a little bit on the other side of this new metal jam so this wasn't easy for you right because this is not your wheelhouse new metal is that right no that's right I

was the I was in my think like I you know more or less my mid-20s I talked I have a young buddy here in Peterborough, and we write and jam, and we were talking about nu metal because I was talking about having to do this this evening, and he said the thing about nu metal is it's an anti-aesthetic, and I was like, yeah, it's so true. It offends all parts of you,

and when nu metal was a thing, it offended all parts of me too. It didn't play to a single instinct in me of anything I like. But I think a lot of that's by design that's what i mean like it's like a and i'll get to that later it's like a it's a purposeful battle cry against the elite it's like look this is pure served up ugliness through its digital distortion it's it's just loud it's proud yeah but i was also saying that i miss a lot of things when they're happening because I'm usually on a tangent doing my own thing. And then I'll come around to it.

And I fell into it like a YouTube documentary about Slipknot. And if somebody had said in high school, hey, there's an art theater rock project that you're going to be blown away by, basically, GWAR for the early 2000s, late 90s. I would have said, hey, sign me up. But it was pitched to me as this thing, and I was like, oh, this is just ridiculous. And then later I find out it's gorgeous, beautiful performance, theater performance art. And I'm like, all they needed to do was tell me that,

and I'd have been all about it. It's all in the packaging. Heinz ketchup. They just turned the sticker the other way so they could turn it upside down so you'd have ketchup at the ready. You know what I mean? Wow. Hawk should be the morning show guy

at Kingston. I'm going to talk to Bob after this. My gummy just kicked in at the right time. That was great. Alright, without further ado, Hawk, because we want to chat you up at the end of this song here. I'm going to just start playing your song, and I'll bring it down. Here is kicking out the first new metal jam, Hawksley Workman's...

Do you have any gummies? I do not. I need a gummy sponsor. Rainer will help. Can we get a gummy sponsor? Oh, this is a good one. I'm working on it. I'm getting in with the cannabis community.

Please do. Oh, perfect. I got some ideas. The Cream hour? This fucking kills, Hawk. It slays. Yes, sir. But I'm not ready to turn it down yet. Hawk and Stone in the morning.

We got some sips above and down. Wake up, Kingston! Hit the post there. Second week in a row we picked up this job, man. I'm tired. Eating seeds is a best time activity. The toxicity of our city. Of our city.

Yo, what do you own the world? How do you own this order? Order, come on. Order. Now, somewhere between the sacred silence. Sacred silence and sleep. Somewhere. I'm sorry.

There is nothing ugly about this jam. This is gorgeous. It's kind of controversial to open with this, in my opinion. I was going to say, is this new metal? Because I kind of think these guys would probably be unhappy with that. Yeah. What do you say about that, Hawk? Are we sure this is new metal?

I mean, it definitely is from that era, for sure. Oh, you know what? I just realized. Hold on, Hawk. I have to turn up this part and then bring this part down. I mean, it definitely is from that era for sure. Oh, you know what? I just realized. Hold on, Hawk. I have to turn up this part and then bring this part down. I forgot. Hawk comes in at the same channel as System of a Down.

Oh, there he is. So I'm turning down System of a Down. I'm also turning down Hawk. Okay, here you are, buddy. Talk to me. Hey, hey, hey. I wiki'd just to see what I had, like, anything sort of... Yeah, they show up. They show up in the wiki.

For sure. And so did Rage Against the Machine, which, to me, it was like I actually reached out to Mike and I said, I hate it with conscience. Do you know the song Somebody to Shove by Soul Asylum? Do you know that song? I do, I remember that song. Yeah, is that a grunge song? Say yes.

Yes, it is definitely. There's a Twitter poll. He's paused for a long time. He doesn't think so. Because they did Runaway Train, right? Yeah. No, they don't get to do grunge. Pseudo-grunge.

Go ahead. They get to do loud, but they don't get to do grunge. So, Hawk, because I don't think of Raging Ace and Machine as new metal. No. Yeah. But they definitely harken. Like, they were the harbingers of that whole thing. That aggression, that energy. That came before the new metal. They were the harbingers Of that whole thing That aggression That energy

They were the template I think Like the way that Nirvana was inspired By bands that came before them What about last week Okay so last week We kicked out

Jams that pump us up We kicked out What's the big What's the one we did Faith No More Chop Suey We kicked out Chop Suey last week

But we also kicked out Epic by Faith did last? Faith No More? Chop Suey. We kicked out Chop Suey last week. But we also kicked out Epic by Faith No More. Is Faith No More and maybe even, what was Patton's earlier band? Mr. Bungle. Mr. Bungle. Is that the template for this new metal? Maybe. It goes back. I mean, that's late 80s.

I would say more Rage because that's a lot harder. Well, Mike, originally remember the theme of this episode was going to be new metal and rap rock because I had boot sauce on my original list. Oh, crazy. I felt there's too much here. I had to narrow it a bit. A lot of noise. I would say that, like, listen, there is this era from 1999 to 2004, we'll call it, where rock had a comeback. And it was led by a lot of these new metal acts that

opened the door and i would say that system of down certainly benefited from those doors being open to even get a play but listen system of down hawk he knows i mean you got a vocalist that's as good as maynard you got musicians that play their instruments as good as toto oh my goodness and you've got very good and you've got harmonies It's musical It's hard It's edgy It's well produced Rick Rubin I think

Produced that album It's Armenian That's the cream of the crop That is as good as it gets That whole album That whole album It's like You can listen to it

All the way through The first time So I wanted to The first time I heard it I was sick Sick sick sick I was on my tour bus We were playing Glastonbury Glenn Hillbrook Casually just mentioned that And the first time I heard it, I was sick, sick, sick, sick. I was on my tour bus.

We were playing Glastonbury. Glenn Pilbrook did a backstage little concert, keeping me awake. And then there was one of the stage techs, and he kind of dressed like he was in Braveheart. And just as the night was really closing down, you could feel the festival kind of slowing down. Like you were going to get some sleep. He opened his cube truck that he was sleeping in and played that record all night. All night to the next day. Wow.

And it made an impression because I'd never heard it and the aggression. Yeah, that's what I was saying last week. I mean, it's like when you first heard System of a Down, it was like hearing Nirvana for the first time. This is so different than everything I've ever heard. What is this? And so good you first heard System of Down, it was like hearing Nirvana for the first time. This is so different than everything I've ever heard. What is this?

And so good. So good. Is that what he was going to say? I didn't mean to like interrupt. No, no, no. You interrupt the way. Can I just compliment the Hawk?

Okay. I want to compliment Hawksley on his audio quality. Very good. It's like you're sitting on this deck here with us. You sound amazing. Yeah, under a terp. Yeah, we're under a terp. I wish I was. There's no reason're sitting on this deck here with us. You sound amazing. Yeah, under a tarp.

Yeah, we're under a tarp. I wish I was. There's no reason why I can't be there now, other than the fact that there's a tornado coming through. Do you have a tornado really coming to Peterborough? Is that what's happening? I'm sorry? Are you saying there's a tornado coming there?

Yeah, there's a warning right now. I'm looking out the window. I mean, it's kind of been coming and going. It's been quite a wild afternoon. So there's actually tornadoes in Ontario? Well, there was one in Barrie earlier today. Like houses destroyed? Yeah, like I saw the, someone took some footage and tweeted it,

and I was looking at it. There's a funnel cloud, and it tears up houses. Yeah, the Weather Network had their storm face up there. Did it tear shit up? It tore shit. There's going to be a lot of roofing that needs to be done. It was like a Mimico mic kind of tearing it up? It was tearing it up.

Yeah, that between, I hope nobody got hurt, but there was a lot of property damage, yeah, between Barry and Innisfil. That's so fucked. Yeah, that was earlier today. Nature's fucked, man. Keep up with the news there, Stu. I'm too busy listening to the Hawk, man. Get on fucking Twitter, you hot bastard.

Hawk, you're the fucking best. Like, honestly, any excuse to get you on Toronto Mike but thanks so much for doing this oh no are you kidding me I love talking with you and I love that you I love handmade culture it's just my thing make it bespoke like

this is the myth of the internet that all of a sudden oh well there's so many more gatekeepers and in fact there's so many there's so few gatekeepers and this is like this is where it's at. I'm a fucking gatekeeper. I watch Czech TV. I like local commercials.

I want to see the local stuff. Bless you all. Thanks for having me. Good luck, man. Get in the basement, man. Hey, before you go, you remember Just Like Mom? I mean, I was crazy about that show. Okay, so the creator of Just Like Mom.

Yeah, exactly. There you go. The creator of that show came on a few weeks ago and made this comment. So if you can listen for 15 seconds. Oh my God. But Mike, you're a big number in Toronto. Yeah.

You know, like you really are. Tell me more. And say it slower. No, no. That's why I say it's so cool to be here, because you are the man now. You rule the airwaves, right? What is this based upon? Expertise.

Hawk, I just wanted to share that with you. That's Paul Burford. I mean, if you want to do an all Just Like Mom episode, I went deep with that show. Too late. Good to know. But what about Tears Are Not Enough? Do you know that song? I listened to that episode, full episode. You went deep with that show. Too late. Good to know. But what about Tears Are Not Enough? Do you know that song? I listened to that episode. Full episode. You listened to that.

Man, had I been in there side-kicking y'all? I just said y'all. You know what? Cam said, if I was side-kicking with you guys on that, I definitely could have helped out. Okay, you know what? The next time, because Cam and I do this periodically. Yeah, Cam and you. That's right. It's kind of our own thing. This dude's kind of busy.

He's going to L.A. He's got a movie premiere. Sure, sure, sure. He's fancy. Hawk, I'm going to give you a shout and see if you'll join us because you would be a great voice on those episodes. You'd be perfect. Hawk is an animal.

Thanks a lot, you guys. Look, I'm going to bed now, but I appreciate it. Him and Levi Femke. Hey, thanks again, Hawk. Peace and love and sweet dreams to you, my brother. Yes, indeed. Good night, folks. Take care, man. Good night, man. Thanks. That was cool, man. That's the Hawk. Peace and love and sweet dreams to you, my brother. Yes, indeed. Good night, folks. Take care, man.

Good night, man. Thanks. That was cool, man. That's the Hawk. Love it. The Hawk Lee Workman here. I'm going to turn off the Zoom. The Hawk man.

Because I don't need it anymore. Goodbye, Zoom. Mike, I will say this. We talk a lot of shit on Pandemic. I will say, you have never botched any of these special guests. Except last week. Well, except for that. And that week. That wasn't your fault. She does regret it.

The lineup of talent is incredible. That was the hawk. I kind of think that if he called himself the hawk, he could be the hawk in the morning and he could do the morning show. He can have it. Are you married to Monica? I mean that like, you know how I mean that. Oh, I don't know.

What's Monica's story? I don't know much. I don't know anything about her. Let's do a deep dive on Monica. Is she verified on Twitter? Do we know? She could be. Does she fleet?

She probably doesn't because nobody does that. Hey, if I do that, you guys give me taggers and then you do that. Okay. She's probably a great person because look, she's still there. Al is no longer there and she's there. They wanted to keep Monica. Yeah, they obviously like Monica. You have to do two things.

I just wonder, would she be threatened by me when I come in and would she be nice to me? You need to have chemistry. You can call me Al. That could be like the gimmick. You need to take her out for brunch or whatever and see if you have a rapport. Yeah, go to Morrison's. Nah, we're good. What if you hate each other?

But that's on her because I'm a likable guy. Depends who you ask. You got to talk over her. 1236 wasn't sure. First of all, he likes me. You're good. What if you hate each other? But that's on her because I'm a likable guy. Depends who you ask. You got to talk over her, too? 12.36, wasn't sure. First of all, he likes me. You're crazy. Of course he does. That guy's practically my uncle.

I need to make a big reminder to everybody. This is very important. Tomorrow is TMLX7. That means that 6 p.m. tomorrow in Marie Curtis Park. Matt Layton's going to be there. I don't think he's there. He's in Edmonton. But I'm going to be there.

Huxley Workman. He's in Peterborough. Life performance. Rain or shine, I'm going to be there. I don't think he's there. He's in Edmonton. But I'm going to be there. Huxley Workman. He's in Peterborough. Light performance. Rain or shine, I'm going to be there. Ben Rain or shine. Ben Rain or shine. There you go. I'm going to be there.

So I don't want to be alone. Are you bringing brewskis? You won't be alone for sure. I'm bringing cold beverages. Guaranteed there's at least, I'm going to, by the end of the episode, I will put a number on it. Are you going to be there? I won't be there. Why not? Because me and cam and i are going with uh we're going to the cottage

three's a crowd okay katie will be there and just before cam kicks out his first new metal jam cam uh can we spend a couple of minutes uh you you mentioned before i press record that you had some comments on some of this week's episodes of Toronto Mike. Yeah, it was mainly with Ripken, who I wasn't familiar with. And Mike, you and I have talked about this at length on DM. I really like where you just do those episodes where you just hone in on something. And I'm a little biased because you and I have done Degrassi's School's Out. We've done Tears Are Not Enough. I loved your Edgefest episode.

I think this one really nailed it the thing about that episode and the episode was great but that video that aired on global with the you know beverly thompson did the throw and just seeing like the the mojo girls up on stage dancing and humble humble howards there and where was it like the hard rock cafe at the sky don't sound like that it's it's incredible that i mean that was 20 years ago it was a long time ago but like that seems so out of step with the times can you imagine if that radio station launched in 2021 okay wouldn't do it like it just it's just wild how how much it's changed i'll just say that good and you noticed when i uh when he talked about cal ripken playing his last game, I guess,

and then I brought up that Billy Ripken had fuck face on his bat. He did? He had no idea what I was talking about. Lead balloon. See, I always think when I'm talking to someone, I'm talking to guys like you who know exactly Billy Ripken. But this guy's last name or his moniker is Ripken. Yeah, his moniker is Ripken.

You think you would know. Like if you know one thing about Billy Ripken. That's really fucked. That's like someone's wearing a band shirt and then they don't know the band. Like, a lot of people

do wear Ramones shirt and can't name two Ramones songs. That's very comic. Or even one. Okay, and quickly... Wait, can I just make a quick plug? A really quick plug.

Okay. There's a special friend... I just saw Giant Raccoon by the way back there, but go ahead. Sweet. My good friend Cable Guy Jeff, who's joining us again

in the chat room here. Oh, Cabe. He says, Stu's always liked. He's right, Cable Guy Jeff, who's joining us again in the chat room here. Oh, Cable. He says, Stu's always liked. He's right about that. But Jeff has put together a film of his own that's going to be playing on social media on his YouTube channel on July the 27th. That is the 20-year reflect. Like, I used to have a band called The Stone Movement.

Of course. We were a rap group, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Jeff has put together this film that people can watch. And it's more of a collection of just unseen home video footage of us rehearsing and performing. I'm so there. You get to see me 20 years ago trying to make it as a musician, basically.

And he's got it all. Just make sure you link it. I will. I'll retweet the shit out of it. What's the dating? I'm nervous about it. Put it this way. Because I have... Have you seen it? I'll retweet the shit out of it. What's the dating? I'm nervous about it. Put it this way because I have

Have you seen it? I have not seen it and it's been a long time since I've even thought about it. But he seems to like you so he's not going to Well, I don't think he's going to make me look bad

because he wants to. He probably thinks I look good. But I know I'm embarrassed. There's a lot of stuff going on. Yeah. A lot of stuff. Okay, so final words

before we kick out Cam's first jam. I just want to say that there's a Noel Casler episode he's a he's an American stand-up comic

but listen to this fucking episode don't sleep on it because you're not sure who the hell is Noel Casler it's balls to the wall it's amazing

and it's not just Trump shits his pants and snorts Adderall it's not just that there's a whack of wait is that real? spoiler alert yeah that's real

that's in there too but there's a whole whack of like neil young stuff and uh tragically hip stuff how did this episode come about because again i that was my exact reaction it's like i don't know this because for the last uh nine months i've been chatting with noel castler via email to book him on uh another podcast i produce okay so basically So basically, we became friendly, and I'm like, hey, man, we should do an episode together. And he's like, I'd love that.

And we spent the first half hour talking about the Tragically Hip. He's a rare example of an American, born and bred American, who absolutely adored the Tragically Hip. Like, this episode, it's killer. Really? I promise you.

Check out the Noel Kastler episode of Tronamite. Are you a big hip guy? Me? Yeah. You don't even have to be a big hip guy. No, I'm just curious. I'm you. Check out the Noel Casler episode of Tron. Are you a big hip guy? Me? You don't even have to be a big hip guy. No, I'm just curious. I'm a fan. See? That was kind of a meh. That's okay. You won't be invited to Kingston to appear. Well, you can.

I would. You know what, Cam? I would take the job right now. Sight unseen, I would take the job right now if Cam came with me and did it also. Just move out, leave my daughter. You could work remotely. Actually, that's true. Work from anywhere. She could come visit on the weekends. Totally. Go in one

day a week or something. We could get a place together. Yeah. I'm not invited. I'm sad. Well, you are too, Mike, but you've got a family here. I have four giant anchors here. Do you want to come to Kingston? Why don't the three of us just move to Kingston? When you settle, but you've got a family here. I have four giant anchors here. Do you want to come to Kingston? Why don't the three of us just move to Kingston? How about this?

When you settle in and you've got the rhythm going there, Cam and I will take a road trip to Kingston, and we'll record from Kingston sometime. I would love that. That'd be so much fun. We're going to do that. I've had some good times in Kingston. I might not want to see you guys once I'm just me and Monica.

Actually, I think we're done with Stu on August 27th. Monica and I are going to be pretty busy. Fuck this guy. By the way, 70, you know, there's only six more to go.

By the way, there's a little truth to that. Fuck this guy. Fuck this guy. This is the 70th Pandemic Friday. I think the finale is 76. We're almost done. Should be 77.

76 trombones. Cam, anything you want to say before your first new metal jam? I'll just say this is, this is the one artist I, or this one unit that I picked that. Okay. Well, there are.

There's a bit of a buildup here purposely. I've actually seen this band live. We'll get into that in a second. I thought you were going to hit the post. Oh, yeah. Okay. You had a whole minute you could have talked up to this thing. I know, but...

Don't you know how to do radio? That's why you're not getting the Kingston job. Is this thing on? Yeah. Why, did your headphones talk? No, it just... It sounded weird. There we go. Are you ready? Let's get a fucking storm here.

Just a heads up. This won't be light rain either. Are we okay here with this carpet? Are you going to get electrocuted? We're going to televise our fucking deaths here. Yeah. I'm going to move my bag a bit. Corn.

Name of the band is Corn. The name of the song is Blind. Stu's just moving his bag. Obviously, if there becomes a safety issue, we can shut this fucking thing down and build it up again in the basement. I think so. In Bob's basement?

Bob's basement. He only lets you in virtually. There you go. Yeah, I thought this was a good place to start. I mean, I feel like Korn and Limp Bizkit are the two first bands I think of, and maybe to some degree Linkin Park. Korn, as I mentioned off the top, I actually saw Korn at Lollapalooza, the final touring version.

This was at Canada's Wonderland. Korn went on like third. We've talked about this bill before with like Tricky and James. Snoop Dogg, kind of an eclectic mix. Here's kind of a broad question for you guys. Do you have any sort of emotional relationship with New Metal? Because I know I don't I like some of the songs but it's like

this didn't seem like it was for me when it came out Stu you want to take that first? No I don't just listen to him to his corn pick there are some New Metal jams I learned as I was building out my playlist tonight that I actually really fucking love

for sure they pump you up. Are you kidding me? That's what they're for. They're for getting the mosh pit going and jumping up and down and raging against the machine. Let's do the Esri geography corner. Really? Gagoski loves that. Do you guys know where corn is from?

Pennsylvania. Like California. Somewhere like Stockton,ramento great great guess is actually bakersfield bakersfield so bakersfield obviously is is most primarily known that's pretty much the same thing is is over the years has been like a real country music hub uh most famously merle haggard yeah he's from there and buck owens uh we also have some baseball players someone we saw last night at the major League Baseball All-Star Game, Corbin Burns.

Oh, Corbin Burns. And a few role players. We got Todd Walker. We got Colby Lewis. And we also have Jack Johnson. Now, not the musician, the boxer. Oh, not the hockey player either. Yeah.

And one more. Let's do a tie-in to the 2021 Toronto Blue Jays. What would be the causality between this year's Blue Jays and Korn? Jonathan Davies. Very good. Jonathan Davies, the singer. One more tie between Korn and the city of Toronto. And this is somebody I think Stu has a relationship with.

I was surprised to learn this. Director X actually did a video for Korn and the city of Toronto and this is somebody I think Stu has a relationship with. I was surprised to learn this. Director X actually did a video for Korn. Wow, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I was kind of surprised. A song called Come Undone, which not to be mistaken with the Duran Duran song. Or, there's a Guess Who song, a popular Guess Who song called

Come Undone. She's come undone. She didn't know what she was heading for. It was too late. Yeah. I've got a third very loose Korn Toronto tie-in. Okay. This is a bit of a stretch, but this will also involve a shout-out. Someone else we lost.

They shot the bargain heralds? Okay. What was the first demo tape that Korn put out? The yellow tape. No, it was called Niedermeyer's Mind. Oh, and almost the Maple Leaf Jazz Band. Almost the Maple Leaf

traded for the late-grade Tom Kervers who he lost. He just passed away. I love it. I love how your brain works. There you go. Final thought about Korn.

They were supposed to be touring last summer that got canceled. They were actually touring with another band. Maybe we'll be hearing them tonight. Okay. The band Stained.

You never know. You never know. You never know. Family values. I'll just say we're at the point in like Korn's history. They're now like, what, 25 years? Every summer, there's just going to be like

Korn and Limp Bizkit, Korn and Stained, Korn and Disturbed. Why not? They're just like mix and match. Well, you know what? I will tell the listenership that Stu is batting last.

Like he is, you He is going third. But for this first round, I'm swapping spots with Stu Stone. Oh, wait, is this my pick? Well, okay. Cam's pick was what? He picked Korn? He picked Korn. Blind. Korn, yeah, Blind.

Korn, the song was called Blind? Yeah. And Korn, you like them? It's with a K. Do you like them? I'm pretty indifferent. Not really. I like one or two jams.

I kind of like that song, but yeah. In general, no. Okay. Well, then I'm happy to play this. Here we go. It's menacing. Neither of you played the Korn jam I opened the episode with. No, but you did bury the lead by playing that.

Is that Snakes and Ladders? It's Freak on a Leash. Freak on a Leash. It's gonna be loud. I'm feeling tired My time is gone today You feel the suicide Sometimes that's okay Do what others say

I'm here standing hollow Falling away from me Falling away from my Oh yeah Day is fading That's when I'm afraid I fled with suicide Sometimes kill the pain It was one of those. I know, it said false bottom. Well, there you go. Korn.

Falling away from me. And this is the only time we're going to repeat a band this entire episode. Yeah. You know, there's a lot to cover here that Cam didn't mention, so we're actually not stepping on each other's toes

at all here. There's a lot of cob. I will say, I'll start with a personal story. Okay. I'm in Orange County, California, and Jamie Kennedy and myself were performing

at a comedy club in Orange County. I believe it Orange County, California. Jamie Kennedy and myself were performing at a comedy club in Orange County. I believe it was The Improv. Maybe it's in Redondo Beach. It's like, you know, one of those kind of places. Is that Anaheim, Orange County? Sure. Is that when somebody said, you have a nice sprinkler? Is that in this story?

No. That's a Gallagher. So we have a great time. And at the end of the show, there's a knock at the door, and the security comes and says to us, there's someone here that would like to say hi to you guys. They came to the show. And we said, who?

And they said, his name is Fieldy. And we're like, Fieldy? Maybe it was Cecil Fielder. Sure, let's go. Open the door, and Fieldy, who is the bass player for Korn, is there with his friends. He invites Jamie and I to come to his house to hang out. He has a sick house.

Wow, what a life. So we go to this guy's house. Wow. So sorry, what year was this? This is like 2005 or 2006. We go to this guy's house and it's insane, okay? Insane. Huge mansion, lowrider cars, like

entourage. It was like the first sort of, like, rock star kind of house. Yeah, it was a fucking crazy house. Super nice guy. So he says, oh, yeah, we're playing a show at Universal. Do you guys want to go? And I'm like, sure. He gives us, leave us tickets.

So, of course, Jamie, he doesn't end up going to the show, so I take another friend and I go to the show and I see Korn live at Universal Amphitheater. And they were fucking great. And I've seen them a few times since. Once with your pals Evanescence. Bring me back to life, Jamie. And I know that there's like a tie-in.

Oh, good night. We have to say good night to Beck because she's signing off. These are late dates right now. I don't know if... Good night, Beck. Happy birthday. I don't know if we're going to hear from Limp Bizkit tonight or not, but I know that one of the things that helped Limp Bizkit break was that Korn heard them.

There's a whole story there, how Korn helped Limp Bizkit break out. It's like on Korn's label or something. Here's a fun fact, guys. Love it. Korn is spelled K-O-backwards-R-N. The backwards R, do you want to know why they do that? Because several members of the band used to work at Toys R Us. So as an homage, yes.

Amazing. As an homage to their former employer, they turned the thing backwards. Shout out to Jeffrey Giraffe. The song, of course, we just heard, Korn. Also Sluggers in the Toys R Us Plaza. Yeah, another quick thing. This single, Falling Away From Me, which is one of their most successful songs,

it debuted on the animated series South Park. Really? Yeah. Wow. How about that? How about that? Until you did things back then. And there you go.

Now, I got a few comments from the FOTMs at live.torontomic.com. Michael Lang says, All this music sounds like it was written to play over the closing credits of a Michael Bay movie. Sure. Yeah. Good point there. By the way, that pays a lot. Cambrio says he wants to know his Finger Eleven new metal.

Wow, fun fact. So he says the South Park Cambrio just said the same fun fact I just said. Look, we share a brain, me and Cambrio. It's like your Monica and Matt Layton share a brain. Come on now. Let me see. Ian Service is here. Hello, Ian.

Moose Grumpy is here. TL Resident is here. How did you do that backwards corn with the R of Langer in the chat? Maybe he copied and pasted it. He found it on search. I don't know. But just a few more quick, quick, quick shout-outs. You mentioned there's a gentleman here who really likes you, Stu.

I want to get his name right. He seems to be a massive Steve M. Steve M seems to be a massive Stu fan. Well, why wouldn't he be? Well, it's not that common, really. Really? Who's Steve M? Do we got a light out this week?

Are we working dark tonight? If you can let us know how we might... I guess we're working dark tonight, Mike. Yeah, well, I talked to Cam about this before you got here. We think it's a safety issue with the rain. I think your thing would blow over, too. Like, it might blow over. So just go in the dark?

So, yeah, because it would be... I don't want to get that... We'll be electrocuted. We'll all die. We're going to go dark today. People just want to hear us anyways. So, yeah. Okay. So I have a jam. So we switched up go dark today. People just want to hear us anyways. So, yeah. Okay.

So, I have a jam. So, we switched up the order to get the corn back to back. So, here's my first new metal jam. We've played this song before. I'm all check. I don't think so. For sure we have. I kind of like this song.

It's awesome. Suicide gems. That was the episode? We didn't do suicide gems. We did something. Chips is off. Do you even care if I die bleeding? Would it be wrong? Would it be right? And we took my leg tonight Chances are I got that right Mutilation out of sight And I'm contemplating suicide

Cause I'm losing my sight Losing my mind Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine Losing my sight Losing my mind Wish somebody would tell me I'm fine What a song. Is this rap, Brock?

How the fuck did I screw up? How the fuck did you just get disqualified in the opening round? So, sorry, have we heard this before? Of course we have. I think I played it. What episode? I'll tell you right now, because... Vasectomy Jams.

Vasectomy Jams. Cut my life into pieces. I played this. Because we never did Suicide Jam. I totally do not remember that. Fuck me, man. Yeah, baby. And I take this so fucking seriously.

Apparently not. Nailed it in this week, Mike. The hero of the day Is not you my friend Well here's some fun facts Regardless Anyway I mean we don't have Winners and losers right Cam

We're all winners So who fucking cares The winners are the The losers I'll bet you This storm doesn't come That's why you should Bring the light

I think we're okay We'll see We'll see Papa Rhodes Remember this is not even recorded So they just want to hear the audio But okay Papa

They're a California band. I hope I guessed... Vacaville. Vacaville. Vacaville. And I've said that when I played it. Okay, well, people don't remember. People don't remember. What an asshole. The band, by the way, chose the name Papa Roach. I'm noticing

a trend here of California, Southern California, you know, California bands, all these new metal acts are all... The same thing continues. A lot of anger. Jacoby Shaddix,

his step-grandfather's name was Howard William Roach. We have a T in there. Shut up. And that's where the name Papa Roach comes from. Really? Hal Roach?

Like the little rascals Hal Roach? No, I don't think it's that guy. It's his step... Okay, it's raining pretty hard right now, so just let me know if you guys... I'm going to... If the gear gets wet, okay? I'm going to, I don't think it's that guy. It's his step. Okay, it's raining pretty hard right now. So just let me know if you guys, if the gear gets wet, okay? I'm going to lean in.

I think we'll be okay. I feel like this is serious. I don't feel it. My back. Okay, whoa. The tarp's blowing away. This is like gym class, like with a parachute. Like everyone.

Right. This is appropriate music for our device. Okay, so I'll just burn through these fun facts. This, of course, is from Infest. That was their major label debut, Infest. We are broadcasting in the middle of a storm here. Wake up, Kingston. You want to get go for cover this morning.

Look at Tim Hortons, color eight. Oh, my back is getting wet. You might have seen Papa Roach on the Anger Management Tour. I feel like that's a tour that will be brought up a few times tonight. This song, actually, fun fact here, it first appeared on the soundtrack for the 2000 film Ready to Rumble, which also

featured FOTM Biff Naked covering Twisted Sisters We're Not Gonna Take It. No, we are not. We've talked about that. WCW stars in that. It's funny you thought this was from Suicide Jams because of course this song is about a suicide. But the last thing I'll point out is that it did reach number 57

on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100. I remember us being really surprised by that when I played it. Well, I would just like to apologize to all the FOTMs. I violated my own, I basically did not follow my own rule. And for the rest of the Pandemic Fridays, I will do a triple check with the great spreadsheet that Tyler Campbell maintains to ensure I don't repeat any jams. We don't repeat

jams. I apologize. Cam, what do you want to say before your second jam? It's coming down. We should do some play-by-play of the storm we're in here. Absolutely. Let's go all Anwar Knight. Riders in the storm. No intro. Shout out to Anwar Knight. I'm going to we're in here. Absolutely. Let's go all Anwar Knight. Riders in the storm. No intro. Shout out to Anwar Knight.

I'm going to call my notes here. Johnny O, by the way, is here. He says, qualification is cut to pieces. That's a joke about me being disqualified here, of course. What was the thing Spider Jones said? Like, how long is your boner?

He said, when did you get your first boner? Like, that wouldn't fly these days. Well, Ripken's a... What did he say? He was a Mennonite. I feel like as a Mennonite, he's very conservative. Sorry, Ripken was a Mennonite? I was surprised.

Are you sure you listened to that? Yeah, well, I was surprised he said he didn't like all the dirty talk and stuff like he's a comedian. He's a Mennonite from Winnipeg or from nearabouts, Manitoba. There's a lot of Mennonites in Manitoba, apparently. Guys, I cannot afford to die in a storm. Okay.

Let's hear... Okay, we... Okay, here's an intro for you. Okay. Big shiny tunes. We did an episode about this. This was on a big shiny tunes. I'm enjoying these jams with you guys. I don't care if it's fucking rainy

These are like strip club jams It's heavy Come on down to the Whiskey Yoko Get your green on the cedar Gentlemen come to the stage Come It's more like a Remington He's got San Diego band right?

I think, yes I'm getting wet now He's coming down really hard Mike, do you want the other umbrella there too? I feel so alive We're okay, man. Bury me in some P.O.D. fun facts, brother. There you go. P.O.D., the song Alive.

Just turn the music down all the way for one second just so they can hear the storm that we are broadcasting. This is what we do for Pandemic Friday. That rain you were caught in earlier. This is no joke. But better now than at TMLX7 tomorrow night. This is a full-fledged storm.

I'm under an umbrella and a tarp and I'm still getting wet here. Try to keep those mics dry, okay? Big Shiny Toon 7. Did you pick that up? You would have heard P.O.D. I did, Pop. Oh, 7?

I don't know if I went that far. Yeah, so this song actually came out on July 31st, 9th. Sorry, July 31st, 2000. I'm so distracted by this. It's so heavy. July 31st, 2001. So again, like we've talked about this a lot. A lot of songs get tied into like 9-11.

I feel like this was one like you'd see like montages. Agreed. I feel so alive. Right. Do you guys know what P.O.D. stands for? Puddle of Dud. Good guess. It's Puddle of Dirt.

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Puddle of Dirt. Puddle of Dirt. Puddle of Dirt. Puddle of Dirt. Puddle of Dirt. Puddle of Dirt. Puddle of D This, of course, is a, I wouldn't say it's a Christian rock band. But like Creed, right? Like Creed-ish? Yeah, like a lot of.

Or Evanescence, actually, maybe was a bit like that. A lot of beliefs. A lot of beliefs. And P.O.D., they were actually born in 1992 in San Diego. Jars of Clay, that was the big one. Jars of Clay. Yeah, and DC Talk was the other one. Right, DC Talk was a major, yeah, Bible book thing.

I was a little surprised. Like, I don't know that much about this band beyond this song. I kind of like this song. It's a little trite, but it is what it is. P.O.D. had four top ten albums in the U.S. The last one coming in 2008 called When Angels and Serpents Dance. Okay. Which almost sounds either like a Christian rock or like a Dead Can Dance type thing.

Now, we talked a little bit off the top about corn and stain going on tour this summer. These like package tours actually start. I feel like you're going to like, there's so much rain on the tarp. It's weighing it down. See, maybe I'll jump up and punch it in a second.

Are you guys familiar with the make America rock again tour? If it comes down, what's the plan? Like when this tarp falls down. Why would it fall? Because of the weight of the rain pushing it down. You've got strong string. Why would it fall?

You've never been in a fucking tornado before? Can we switch to the basement with your console? We can make that call at some point. Before we get back to you, I'm like, oh! Did you see that? I saw a flash. Moose Grumpy says it's a slow-moving cell. It might be here for a while. But more importantly, Double D says that

Katy Perry did the backup vocals on one of the P.O.D. hit songs, but you can't remember which one. Well, she was like a Christian rock artist of sorts. And T.O. Residence says don't confuse Alive from P.O.D. with alive from Pearl Jam or alive from Edwin. That's right.

Or so alive by Eleven Rockets. Guys, I've got four kids. I think if one of us is going to die, it's got to be Stu, right? Well, I was going to say, should we switch? Is that disrespectful to say that? A little bit. Should we switch to the basement? No.

This is an adventure. I say we hang in there. This will be famous last week. It's your equipment, Mike. Okay. But if the tarp comes down, we need to take off our headphones before we rush into action. This is like the guy on the Weather Channel and he's doing the hurricane report. Don't make the mistake I make where I

burst into action with the headphones on and then I end up breaking my headphones and it costs me a bunch of money to fix it. So I will take off the headphones and jump into action. I'm ready to go. Okay, are you done your POD fun facts? You need to build a gazebo is what you need to do. I'm so done. You know, there's one in Tyler Campbell's backyard right now.

Oh boy. Holy fuck. Here we go. Oh boy. Okay. Okay. Batting down the hatches. Oh my god. It's getting pretty windy now. Oh, I thought Okay. Okay. Batten down the hatches. Oh, my God. It's getting pretty windy now.

I thought the power went out or something. I'm like, okay. My laptop is getting soaked. Do you have a towel for me? Okay. I used the Palma pasta box. You know what? Fuck it, guys.

You want to hear my... You ready for my jam? Oh, shit. Okay. So, our escape route is this door here Are we all fully vaccinated? What is happening right now? Monica says I can bring fully vaccinated people in the house

Okay Can I kick out my jam cam? I don't know This is insane Oh my god this music is insane For what's happening to us Here it comes. So fitting.

This is so fitting. Oh, my goodness. Hello. Hello. Putting a mask on. One. Nothing wrong with me. Two. Nothing wrong with me. Three. Nothing wrong with me. Four. Nothing wrong with me.

One. Something's got to give. Two. Something's got to give. Three. Something's got to give. Now. Yeah, I say we go inside.

You think so? Yeah, like your computer. Like, look at it. I think we got to, like, maybe... Okay, okay. Or just take a five-minute break and let the song play, or... It's got to pass, right? This is insane.

What a song for this moment, though. We are literally... Like, isn't that wild? I am fucking... But my heart's fucking pumping. Like, it's kind of fucking exciting. Yeah, my pants are soaked. Look, what is this?

It's only six grand of shit. I can find money somewhere. It's just dirty paper. I'll find it somewhere. Hey, listen. We can call it, I guess, because this ain't going away. This is a fucking typhoon now. How about I do Drowning Pool Fun Facts, and then I stop the recording,

and then we set it up and do it in the basement? Do you have a pair of pants I can borrow? I think it's going to pass. It might pass. I don't think this is going to pass. Let me burn through my fun facts because this is really heavy. Oh, my God. Holy fuck.

Johnny O says safety first. He knows the shit. Mike, your computer. What's wrong? What's going on? I'm so worried about your computer. It's so wet. Okay, okay.

Yeah, it's pretty fucking wet. So I'm going to do my fun facts and then we're going to shut this down. Okay? You ready? Literally. This is a Dallas, Texas band. I'm on a Kenna's Wonderland ride right now. This is a Dallas, Texas band. Okay?

So we left California. Drowning Pool is Dallas, Texas. Here's that band. We're in a drowning pool. The Drowning, it's a perfect fucking band for this song. This band was named after the 1975 film The Drowning Pool.

Bodies is from their debut album, Sinner. The lead vocalist you hear here, that's Dave Williams, okay? He fucking... Tiger Williams. He died. Yeah, he died. Wait. He only sang on that first album, and then he died.

Wow. August 14th, 2002, he was. Wow. August 14, 2002. He was found dead in the band's tour bus in Virginia. Apparently, he had heart failure caused by something called... This song fucking pumps me up. I should have played it last week. Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, which is some heart muscle disease. So they lost Dave Williams.

This was the theme song for 2001's WWF SummerSlam. Oh. Which you guys might remember. Sadly, not sadly, but interestingly, you mentioned 9-11. This song got really popular, and then it was taken off stations when the 9-11 happened.

I could see that. But this is about a fucking... Oh, God, it's heavy. Okay, so I'm going to basically finish this thought, then I'll pause the recording. Those who are listening to the podcast won't miss a beat. If you're at live.tronomike.com, we're going to disappear for a few minutes,

and then we'll be back. I have, like, five videos of you doing this. Honestly, I'm soaking. If I go... There's no point in going in. I'm already soaked. All right. This song did not crack the Billboard Hot 100.

Can I put my pants in your dryer and do like a pantsless. Yes. Do you have shorts I could wear or something? Do you have a sarong? This song is all about a mosh pit. For the first time ever, we're pausing a pandemic Friday, but we'll be back. Peace and love, everyone. Stay safe.

Help. Send help. I'm absolutely soaked. And we're back. Okay. Stu, tell the people what just transpired. Sure. It is new.

A hurricane-type performance. A typhoon, maybe. Sure. It was raining like Noah in the Ark type of rain. Right. Noah's Ark type rain going on out there. I got completely caught out in it because I thought it was over. You got drenched.

I went to go to like, oh, I'll just go to mainland, guys, and I'll bring a boat back for us. And I got completely drenched. All of my clothing is in Mike's dryer. And I am actually doing the show just wearing two towels and a headband. So I am a trooper, and just so you know, when this show is over and done with

after the 27th of August, I hope you remember how much we did for you guys during this pandemic, including I am broadcasting right now in two of Mike's towels, and probably the towels, let's be honest, the ones that Monica would let us use. Like, oh, these are the guest's towels.

We put them in the back seat for the dog. There's no dog here. But wow, that's never happened. Barefoot and pregnant over here. And this is now the second time ever during the pandemic that I've done in-person back basement episodes. It's good to be down here. This is where it all started for us.

Totally. Totally. So don't mind the noise. If you hear the dryer bouncing around, that's because we're trying to dry Stu's clothes. We apologize. I will say that moment was surreal when the rain was coming down and I saw lightning. I'm sort of dressed like Obi-Wan Kenobi. Look at me.

Yeah, you do. You look good. He looks wise. No, I'm over here. Look. You see? Yeah. You look like Obi-Wan Kenobi.

The headband. But that moment with drowning pool, bodies. Very fitting. Just loud in the headphones. What a fucking moment. Here we are dry in the basement. We set up everything again here. That's going to be great fodder for the finale.

Oh my god, we'll talk about that. We have some good footage. We'll talk about that at TMLX7 tomorrow. I can't wait. Good laugh at that. Okay, Stu, what would you like to say before your second jam? Send help. Hold on, what is my

next jam? Let me just look here. What did I pick? Oh, this thing This would have been fitting for that storm This would have been a good way to go I think you skipped one of my songs But it's all good I'll just do this one now. I'll just do this one now. Into a flash I looked away

You were on fire Now I see change In you It's like you never Had words How you could So alive I want to change

Do you guys know who this band? Sure. Watch you change of Slipknot. I was going to say, let the record show I am fully vaccinated. I'm just being overly cautious for the household rules where I live. Say no more. Thank you. This song is called Change in the House of Flies, which is fitting because I just had to change in Mike's basement.

I'm wearing two towels for those just joining us, which is impossible. That's not how podcasts work. These are two towels that Monica would give to company. These are not the good towels. That's a preemptive strike. Those towels were ready. She was very kind.

I just wanted to point out. And the kids were scared. I don't see the initials on these towels. The five-year-old and seven-year-old were scared. Like, daddy's outside. They were worried about us being outside. Were they worried about you or me and Kim? They were worried about us being outside. Were they worried about you or me and Cam? They were worried about me.

Probably like Mike, Stu and me. You know one thing that you guys haven't mentioned about this new metal stuff which I guess I'll get to later on but you know there is a certain kind of like puzzle pieces that I feel need to qualify for a band to be a new metal band.

And some of the bands we've heard tonight don't qualify based on that. Stu Stone in the morning. Deftones have a DJ. You may not know that, but they do. A lot of these other bands have a DJ. There's this sort of mishmash of musical stylings, as the Hawkman kind of put it, offensive. Let's be as offensive as we can and, and try to be as unappealing as we can.

And as a result, we'll make something appealing. And that's what's, uh, you know, there's a definitely a fusion of, uh, of,

of musicians to make this type of music. And I mean, you don't, you might not know it, but there is a DJ in this band and scratching and playing and adding textures. The new metal has a huge hip-hop influence. Yes, I think so too.

So yeah, Chino, of course, is the lead vocalist from the Deftones. This is their most popular song. This song actually did not chart in the United States or Canada on the mainstream charts, honestly. That shouldn't be a huge surprise, but it was featured. Are you ready for this, guys? On the Much Music compilation, Big Shiny Tunes 5.

Shout out to Mark Teo. There you go. Big Shiny Tunes 5. We're listening to five in a row. Kingston, are you wet? Give us a call. What's the station called? KSTU.

Monica in the morning. K-S-T-U. That's American. We don't get K out there. We're C's. C-S-T-U. K-Rock in the morning. Wow.

Yeah, so these guys are a band. They're called the Deftones. They're really cool. They have diehard fans. I've seen them live before. Their fans love them, and they put on a great show. And nice guys. Did you know the great Brian Gerstein

got me a George Bell autographed ball? Like the George Bell? Yeah. Really? It's like some other George Bell. Oh, it's George Bell Arena. That guy's long dead. The George Bell from George Bell Arena. But yeah, Brian Gerstein helped me co-host

the Tom Tebbitt episode yesterday. I didn't trust myself to talk tennis with authority, so I brought in a ringer there. I got to say, I never really did, I never thought of Deftones as new metal. I'm going to say that. They do qualify based on the lineup that I just discussed. I mean, this is all open for debate.

Could, well, based on what I said, then maybe you could squeeze in guys that probably don't belong, like Incubus has a DJ. Yeah, yeah. Slipknot has a DJ. Right, okay. Sugar Ray has a DJ.

Okay. That's just silly. I'm just pointing out bands that have a DJ. What about Ubiquitous Synergy Seeker? Is that... FOTMs. FOTMs, FOTMs. Okay.

Great Selection is a good song, actually. And Cam, any words before your third jam? I'm hoping we talk long enough, Cam, that my clothes get dry. Stall it out. Well, we're only halfway done now. We'll load on the fun facts. This is the halfway point right now. Can you see my crotch?

Can you just acknowledge that you cannot see it? Is it covered by the blue? I do not see your penis. Good. I don't want to get in trouble here, Mike. I'm trying to get a morning show. Are there Canadian new metal bands? Like Three Days Grace is not new metal.

Are they? I hate everything about it. Yeah, that could qualify. I guess that would be. Or Default. Any band that's played on Sirius XM Turbo? Yeah. I don't think Default is new metal,

because is Nickelback new metal? No. They're definitely closer to Nickelback, but Three Days Grace feel like they strut. Yeah, you can make an argument for that. Serial Joe. That boy band? Well, I do sort of feel like Finger Eleven.

That's an interesting question, because I don't think they are. Guys, people watching, the rain was cold. Okay. My third pick, I mentioned this band. This is kind of a quieter number showing that even new metal bands

have a sense of style. I am shocked you chose this particular song by this band because it is the ballad, if you will. Yeah, I always kind of like this song. Do you have a lighter uh i have the lighter i do you might need it you might need it for this one you ready yes light it up what come on This is Stained. Stained. Produced by DJ Lethal.

Is it really? Yeah. This is my life. It's not what it was before. All these feelings I've shared. These are my dreams. But I've never lived before Somebody shake me Cause I

I must be sleeping Now that we're here It's all far away All the struggle we fought was in vain And all the mistakes one life could take They all finally start to go away And now that we're here Breaking news from Mark Weisblatt from 1236. And now that we're here Certainly not a failed act with Stained. We're hearing these songs so far away. One of their many hits.

This song went to number... Getting texts like crazy about these towels. Take the towel off. Is that your mom? The top one, not the bottom one. To be clear. You got a hairy chest, dude. I don't think I've seen you...

It's not that hairy. The camera makes it look like that. Well, it's hairier than mine. Well, it's your fucking... And you're holding onto your chest hair pigmentation. I'm a man. I'm pigmentation. I'm a man. I'm a man. I'm a man.

You're a boy. You're making me feel sad. My balls work. That's amazing. Stained. Okay. I don't mean these towels. Are those towels?

They are stained. They're stained now. They were. You gave me these yellowish. Oh, those are short. Let's bring it back. Okay, let's bring it back. Okay.

This is our number one hit on the modern rock charts. I can't really hear him. Turn your microphone like this way. See how this is? He's being respectful. He's being respectful for his lover. How's this? Can you crank him up?

How's this? Yeah, I guess, if you want me to. Yeah, you should. Go now, talk to him. Okay, one, two, three, four. A little bit better. That's better, right?

It's always going to be a bit muffled because he's talking through like six inches of fabric. Okay, I'm going to keep this quick. Most of the bands

we've heard today are from California. Stain's from Springfield, Massachusetts You said that perfectly There you go Massachusetts We're going to do Esri Geography Corner Part 2

Because we have some interesting names who share a hometown with Stain So we've got Kurt Russell That's a big one We've got a guy, a hockey player I've not thought of this guy for like 25 years, Bob Kudelski. Oh yeah. He's a first year senator I feel like.

He was definitely in those early senator teams and I used to play the NHL video games and Kudelski was a star. He was on the Kings too so he played with Gretzky. From the Squared Circle, this is a big name. Circle, circle, dot, dot. John Cena. He was in Ready to Rumble.

Huge. That's where he made his film debut, Ready to Rumble. John Cena? John Cena. What are you talking about? What was he in that? You keep talking and I'll confirm. He probably, maybe he was in Extra or something.

Okay. And then we've got three famous names from history from very different. We've got Larry O'Brien. Wow. The Larry O'Brien Trophy NBA founding father. We have Milton Bradley. Not the baseball player, the board game guy. And then we have the

Johnny Appleseed. Who I didn't realize was a real person. I thought it was more like a Paul Bunyan. Is that like a Joe Strummer song? Ready to Rumble's wiki page says this film is also notable for being the media debut of future wrestler john cena who makes an appearance uh as an extra in a scene taking place in a gym john cena star of

ready to rumble there you go please continue and also also uh born in springfield massachusetts um a couple more fun facts about saying initially they were a grunge cover band if you could believe it which is not that hard to believe they had a couple of big jams man yeah now they were very quick to correct it been a while yeah been a while was I think another monster one

that'll come to me in a minute I think I get the mix who sang voodoo is that like Godsmack? Are we getting here? Gobsmack. They'd be eligible. I would argue that they'd be a fine choice tonight.

Anyway, Stain said their biggest three influences were Tool, Pantera, and Faith No More. Yeah. See, it always comes back to Faith No More. Outside is the song I'm thinking of by Stain that was a big jam. That was like the singer Aaron Lewis. I'm on the outside. And Fred durst comes out and that's right the live version from that's from the family values tour yeah well speaking they actually that's a good segue they played on the second um edition the family values tour listen to this lineup so you had limp biscuitain. The other bands playing were Primus, Mobb Deep,

Ja Rule. That's interesting. Yeah, Method Man and Red Man. And the late, great... Ted R. Seedy. Mr. Orndorff. Close. DMX. Oh, yes, he is late.

DMX was on that. And then Aaron Lewis, as we may know, is also a successful country artist. He's had a series of country albums that he's done so well. Come all the way outside. He's like right now

got a hit that might be the number one country song in... Yeah, like he's a big... He's a big fucking deal on the country. He's kind of like Darius Rucker.

He's a good comparison there. Wow. Okay, you really brought the heat today here. Okay. Thank you. So, I'm going to... It's kind of cold down here. Air conditioner's pumping.

Are you ready for me to fucking... I will say the jam... I find the jams better outside. Yeah, the whole atmosphere is better outside. We only do this if it's literally for the safety of our gear and possibly our safety. There was lightning. The commitment to the

mission. For a moment, I thought we were going to die. I will say I'm glad all your equipment's okay. Your laptop was... I'm worried about the mic got pretty wet. This just feels more corporate. You know what? We got the dryer going in the background. It's like a whole thing. All right, but here's a jam.

This will wake us up. You ready? Sure. I felt the air rise up and move down clear the stone of leaves. I wonder out where you up you ready sure I don't know why you can't see inside Or shall I wait and bleed? Goodbye, I'm wiping off my towel The light is bright enough this time Everything is turning black for me My eyes are running cold The air is shedding straight up This is not the way I'd be, shaman

I can't control my shakes How the hell did I get here? Something about this is I'm very wrong. I have to love how I love. I wish I didn't like this. Is it a dream or a memory? I felt the air rise up in me. And it's down to where it's gone.

Hopefully that woke you up. Okay, that's Slipknot. Of course. Wade and Bleed. This band is from... Big wrestling fan. Wait, I'm telling you, I still dig this jam. This is actually their first... The first Flipknot song I ever heard.

This is their debut single. Is this their biggest hit? Yeah, I think mainstream, I say for sure. This was on the radio, right? Yeah. And they have a DJ as well. DJ Starscream. Yeah, I can hear the scratching.

Okay, so they're from Des Moines, Iowa. They're an Iowa band. This is a fucking Iowa band. That's hot. They had an album called Iowa. Yeah, they did. You're right. I remember that.

The original name of this band we now know as Slipknot. The original name was Meld, M-E-L-D. They renamed it because after one of their songs, they had a song called Slipknot, and they changed it from Meld to Slipknot. I've got to say, good band name. I always liked that band name. I didn't care for their music.

And by the way, I'm not even sure I could really name a second Slipknot song, but this jam I always dug, maybe because it's the first one I heard on the radio. But okay, they're a new metal band that hates that term. They don't like the name new metal. They call themselves... Most people don't.

Metal Metal is what they call themselves. Metal metal. Yeah. Metal metal. What else can I tell you? Concurrently, where am I at in this song? Because concurrently, there was another band that 102.1 was playing. So I'll let them finish and I'll go into that band.

Johnny O said that young man sounds very angry but this doesn't sound as angry Wish I was too dead to cry A self-affliction face Stones to throw at my creator Massacres to which I cater You don't need to bother This is a bonus gem. Yeah, it's a bonus gem. Mind blown.

It's a mind blow. Mini mind blow. So concurrently, you might have been hearing hits from a band known as Stone Sour. This song is called Bother. It definitely got a heavy airplay. Another one that was big was called Through Glass. They're kind of big rock radio hits. And it's pretty much most of the guys in Slipknot are in Stone Sour.

But this singer here is the singer from Slipknot. This is Corey Taylor. So like a side project where he could sound like this instead of wearing the makeup. Yeah, because he's, he doesn't wear makeup and stuff when he's,

is it makeup? It's makeup, right? They're like guar. I feel like they're more like masks. Masks. Like there's a kid wearing pig masks. Oh, I think it started when one of them was wearing

like a Doodoo the Clown mask or something. Doodoo wears face paint. Okay, well, a different mask then maybe. Okay, so. Grease paint. Yeah, a different mask than maybe, okay, so, yeah,

Corey Taylor is the lead singer of Stone Sour which can concurrently operate it while he was doing Slipknot. There's other bands that do that,

I guess maybe, I guess Maynard is in Perfect Circle and Tool. Perfect Circle, yeah. Yeah, concurrently.

But usually it's when you do different, City in Color sounds so different from Alexis on Fire. So this is a good example too. Same kind of deal. Stew Stone and Jamie Kennedy different than just stew. I just realized this band

is called Stone Sour. And I'm feeling sour from this towel. You're bringing me down because you're sour from the towel. And your name is Stone. Stew Stone and Sour. Okay, so this is actually just a bonus jam so I'll bring her down. What do you think of that?

That song, is that a good song? See, I like that song. I've actually never heard it before. It might be a simple song but it got a lot of radio airplay and I dug it enough that I would like intentionally play it. Do you think we're going to play that in Kingston? You probably will play some Stone Sour in Kingston. You know why I think Can't also didn't have their new metal bands?

I think it's Billy Talented and Alexis on Fire. They were sucking up a lot of airtime for the CanCon at that time. Yeah, Alexis on Fire, if you're looking for that yelling jam. Yeah, like the screamo. The one guy would scream. What's his name? Do you remember? George Petit, I want to say his name. Yeah, that sounds right name? Do you remember? George Petit. Yeah, that sounds right to me.

Not Michelle Petit. Who played for like 11 teams or something. The Gilmore trade. He was in the Gilmore trade, right? So I knew, yeah, he was great. So Stu Stone, the microphone is yours. Now, can you just like, are you playing the right song? LP?

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, this is... I know how you want to close. This was going to go a lot earlier on in my picks. Oh, how did I fuck that up? You didn't because you ended up playing Korn when Cam played Korn. Oh, that's what I did. I did that.

You told me I could do that. Because I was like planned on a storyline of like tiptoeing my way to... Through the daisies. Through the daisies. Tiny Tim. Listen, this is a band that was very successful. And as I've mentioned, I'm pretty friendly with some of these other acts. I've hung out with guys from Korn.

Hung out with the guys from the Deftones. Obviously, you know about Limp Bizkit, who we haven't heard yet. Right. They might get Hanson today. That haven't heard yet They might get Hanson today That would be fucked If you guys Hanson You'll never see me again Just three of us here

Leave it to you guys They don't speak too highly Of this band Sorry Limp Bizkit I didn't say that like specific members Or whatever but like They don't speak too highly of this band. Oh. Sorry, Limp Bizkit doesn't speak too highly. I didn't say that like specific members or whatever, but like they don't consider them one of the gang. Like kind of like the way that the Eagles maybe would have treated Toto.

Okay. It all comes back to Toto. Have you noticed that? All roads lead to Toto. Now I understand. Very successful act, but you know, maybe, you know, people thought maybe they were riding coattails or they came in sort of as a more poppier version of the new metal stuff.

But anyway, I'm going to give them props. They're very successful. They have some anthems, and they teamed up with Jay-Z and made a classic album. So let's play some Linkin Park. There you go. I like this. I think we played this band twice in a row now, too.

Yeah. This is the song that reminds me of... This is the 9-11 jam. It starts with one thing. I don't know why. It doesn't even matter how hard you try keep that in mind design is prime to explain in due time all i know time is a valuable thing watch it fly by as the pendulum swings watch it count down to the end of the day the clock is a big uh watch the time go right out the window Trying to hold on

Didn't even know I wasted it all Just to watch it sink I kept everything inside And even though I tried It all fell apart What it meant to be Will eventually be a memory of a time

I tried so hard And got so far But in the end It doesn't even matter I had too far to lose it all But in the end, it doesn't even matter One thing, I don't know why It doesn't even matter how hard you try

Of all the songs that I've played today Somebody tweeted a photo of you like partially nude. Me? In the basement here. Me? Oh, wow. Well, you didn't do the tweeting. Who did that?

Dan Jeffrey must be lurking at live.toronomic.com. It's okay. I don't see any testicle or shaft or head. Are there any other parts I missed? What eventually it'll let the deep at the bed to be. Lincoln Park. This is Lincoln Park.

They've got a DJ. What's their DJ's name? Joe Han. And you know what's special about him? He's not only their DJ, he's also directed a lot of their music videos That's kind of cool Well done

We know about Chester And we know he sang for Stone Temple Pilots at one point Right And we know that he was buddies with Chris Cornell Which we kind of found out after he passed away Which I just don't I couldn't picture those guys being buddies

There's a big age difference Sure I had this band in 2001 I just don't, I couldn't picture those guys being buddies. There's a big age difference. Sure. I had this band in 2001, that Cable Guy Jeff's little movie, or it's not a little movie, it's big. It's Cable Guy Jeff's movie, 20 anniversary, 20 year anniversary. We would often get compared to Linkin Park, not because of our talent, but because I was like sort of rapping and I had a guy named Tommy,

Tommy McCarthy with me. He was singing. Like the Stone Movement. Yeah, and there was sort of like and I had a guy named Tommy, Tommy McCarthy with me. He was singing. Like the Stone Movement. Yeah. And there was sort of like a, we had a DJ. I mean, we were doing all this,

you know, rapping and singing and stuff like that too. And I would have taken that as a compliment at that point. Yeah. I think we were doing it before they were. When did this come out? 2001? It's about the same time.

These guys are really successful, though. That's the difference. This song went to number 30 in Canada. So all the songs I played, none of them charted. No hits from Stu this week. Still a victory. Well, no Billboard Hot 100 hits. A lot of these were big mainstream rock. But this just felt like such a big hit song.

Everybody knows this song. How is this not a hit? It is a hit, so fuck the charts. And, of course, I think everybody liked Linkin Park a little bit more when they collaborated with Jay-Z because that was a fantastic mashup and then there was a whole mashup craze.

Everything was mashups. Was it called the Collision Chorus? And it's excellent. I do have a history with, well first of all, I was label mates at one point with after Linkin Park. What was his band called? Stone Temple Pilots? No, no, no.

Come on. Mike Shinoda had another band. There you go. There you are. I forget what it was. Circle, circle, dot, dot. You don't know Mike? You know what I'm talking about? Where'd you go? Let me find out. We're offline.

We are? We keep going because the podcast is being played. Fort Minor. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. I remember this, yeah. They had some hits. But this guy named Jeff Blue, who is the executive producer of the Lincoln Park albums, I have

lots of history with that guy. Wait, what? Is he an L.A. guy? Because they're from Chicago, right? Yeah, he's an L guy because they're from chicago right yeah he's an la record executive guy that probably everybody's got stories but i have i have a lot of them uh spent some time with jeff blue okay very good i guess we'll leave it at that lincoln park we're almost getting ready for my clothes to be dry so

get your screenshots ready, folks. The towel is going to be coming off at some point and you might see some kosher salami. That's disgusting. Pull your mask up, Cam, so you don't see it.

Over my eyes. Yeah. My apologies. I'm distracted here because I'm trying to fix something. And maybe this is a good time. Would you guys mind? I'm getting a text about the... I know.

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You did a great job. Now, we're going to proceed, but I can't seem to get this live stream going here. If anyone can hear us on the live stream, let me know. They can't. They can't.

Send a DM. We're sending our love down the well. Our internet's fine, so where the hell is it? We're back, apparently. Yeah, like, Stooges got a message. Who was it, Drunkaroo? No, we're back.

We are back. We're back. We're back. It's a miracle. What a day. I got a text saying, it froze on you rubbing your belly and chest hair. Who's that text from?

Is that from your mom? No, it's not from my mom. Whoa, okay. So here, we have one more jam from each of us. We start with Cam Gordon. Anything to say before your final jam? I thought, like, okay. Yeah, stain POD and corn.

People are going to have to listen back to catch what they missed. Because I just did all the sponsors. Right. Yes, absolutely. You did a great job. You know what's a topic we haven't touched on? We've heard a lot of originals today, but there are actually a lot of covers that I think

were in the new metal genre. Specifically, these new metal bands covering new wave tracks. Interesting. Maybe we're going to hear some of these. I don't know. We've got Orgy doing Blue Monday. Just leave it at that. Play the song you picked. Stop talking about it.

Play the song you picked. Stop talking about it. We've got a song you picked. Just, just fuck. Please. I'm no, no, please fuck off. Okay.

Mike. Okay. Or is he, am I good? I don't know. Okay. I don't want to go there. Okay.

There was a lot. Oh, I think the dryer is done. There we go. Am I get ringing in my ear tonight? I heard it too. Shout out to Pete Townsend. I might have to give it a second go because it was pretty wet.

Let me try. Let me see. Take off your headphones and go let me see let Cam talk anyway Stu's got a sneaky good bod you don't know what's going on he's very live you ready?

we've got some good footage anyway, new medals, coverage, new wave this is a moderate hit. Right here. More than moderate. I only listened to one station at the time. It was a big fucking hit there.

I forgot about this one. Yeah. Hey! In cars Here in my car, I can only restate I can listen to you and it keeps me here with a cover of the cars the gary newman new wave classic i'm curious if this would qualify as can con because i i learned this as doing my research this song was actually recorded in in Vancouver, which is interesting because neither Fear Factory nor Gary Newman are Canadian.

Wait, wait, Bob, explain this to us. Is there any other Canadian connection or just it's recorded? I don't think so. I think it was just recorded in Canada. I think you need a couple of points. Okay, so not CanCon, but a memorable song. Nevertheless, Fear Factory had been around for about 10 years by the time this song came out. This song came out in 1998.

You can actually hear Gary Newman on the track. Would you consider Fear Factory a band that had been around for 10 years as new metal? No, this is the first time I heard them. Yeah. Because I sort of remember, I put them in the category like Typo Negative and like Biohazard, like all those bands. But you nailed it with Orgy. Like it's that kind of band. Like, they're very similar to me, Fear Factory and Orgy.

Well, I think because they have a synthesizer in the band. Yeah, and they're both covering 80s new wave stuff. Well, speaking of which, they originally wanted to actually do a cover of another song and make that a lead singer single. They were going to do a cover of U2's New Year's Day. But they thought that would do a cover of u2's new year's day but they thought that would be a bit too uh obvious and and u2 was still kind of riding high back in 1998 so they

they covered cars they actually flew gary newman out to vancouver to guest on this track um i i had a lot of trouble this week doing the northern lights force fit this is probably the lamest one ever was a struggle for you this week. It was very challenging. One person that Mike, I think we did mention in the fantasy read book of Northern Lights was Nash the Slash. Right.

Appeared on some Gary Newman albums. Also open for Gary Newman. This was kind of shocking to learn this. Gary Newman headlined a concert at Maple Leaf Gardens. I never knew he was that popular where he'd headline like an arena show that's you want to hear the mind blow here this is in my head i hope it's accurate it's been bouncing around there for a long time gary newman gary newman if you will yeah was born six days after gary oldman gary old Wow. So there's only a six-day difference,

but Gary Oldman was born six days before Gary Newman. Where'd you learn that? I don't know. I feel like that's on Reddit or something. I read it at some point, and it's in my head. We've heard about the Family Values Tour. We've heard the Make America Rock Again Tour. Is 1236 going to put this Kingston Stew morning show offer in his newsletter i don't

think he likes it when you tell him what to put in his newsletter i asked because i had a question mark at the end of it i never have done it like i've done these i've done things i had a mic where i thought oh this is perfect for the 1236 newsletter i don't say a word and sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn't i never say hey do this. But I notice Gilles LeBlanc, who's an FOTM, will be like, hey, Mark, why don't you link, talk about my Toronto Star article here?

It'd be perfect for 1236. I feel like that would just make Wise Blood be like, never linking to that. First of all, I didn't ask him. I asked you. Do you think?

And, you know, so don't put that on me. I don't think he does Kingston morning show rumor stuff. I don't think this is. It's more of a Humble and Fred story. When you do sign, I think I could see him doing something about how the new morning man in Kingston. Came from a soaking wet podcast that he hated. Oh, you know what I saw?

From the tribe. Do you know what I saw for the first time in my life with my daughter just last week? Raccoon. Your dick? I guess that's not appropriate. You're with your daughter. I take that back. Can you edit that out?

Can you? Please. No way. Everything stays. Jeez. That was poorly timed. You want to be on the radio. I think I just lost the gig.

You famously starred in Donnie Darko. Sure. I wouldn't say starred. Your co-star in that movie was Jake Gyllenhaal. I would say Gyllenhaal, first of all. Gyllenhaal. And then I would also say... I would say Gyllenhaal.

I saw Jake Gyllenhaal. Gyllenhaal. I think it's Gyllenhaal. I saw Brokeback Mountain for the first time. Oh, nice. Wow. Yeah, I never saw it before. Have you guys seen Brokeback Mountain?

No. This was Michelle you watched. Yeah, with Michelle. Not the low end. Morgan, but what a wonderful movie. I feel like I missed out on it for 15 years or whatever, but it was a great movie.

I just want to say. Keith Ledger, right? Keith Ledger, absolutely. Keith Ledger was great in that movie. It was wonderful. Hot take.

Yeah. I have two more fun facts before we leave Fear Factory. I don't think this gentleman's come up who's definitely not new metal,

but Ozzy Osbourne. Are you about to play an Ozzy track? Well, no. Another big touring festival was, of course, Ozfest. Fear Factory played it four times. A lot of new metal bands played it. Zach Wild. This I found interesting.

Allegedly, Ozfest was formed after Sharon Osbourne unsuccessfully tried to get Ozzy Osbourne on the Lollapalooza tour. Could you see Ozzy Osbourne on the Lollapalooza tour. Could you see Ozzy Osbourne on the Lollapalooza tour? No, no, no. I don't think the Black Sabbath guy is a good match for that. Especially not at that time. He was definitely not cool. No, that's not a good fit. Final fun fact,

Gary Newman will actually be in the city of Toronto scheduled to play a concert in October 8th at the Phoenix. Do we think that concert a concert in October 8th at the Phoenix. Do we think that concert will happen? October 8th at the Phoenix? Yeah. Gary Newman in town. Older gentleman. Probably like close to 70.

The only problem is it's indoors. If you told me it was at the Amp, I'd say it's fine. People wear masks if they want. I'm going to say it happened. Of course it does. Do they have some kind of a passport? Look at your chat board there. Look who's listening.

Good old 1236. Will the show in Kingston be Stu and Monica or Monica and Stu? That is a great question. That's why he's got the gig he's got. Monica and Stu is alphabetical. I think I'm going to rename Kingston Kingstone. Kingstone here in Kingston.

I can't believe it. I can't believe you're going to get a morning show gig in Kingston after all this. It blows my mind. Well, it's like 70 weeks. When we talked about that on the deck like four hours ago, it feels like another day. It feels like this is a different day.

It's another event. Okay, so let's get this going. I have one more jam to go and then Stu is going to wrap this up here. Okay, so let's get this going. I have one more jam to go and then Stu is going to wrap this up here. Okay, so here is my final new metal jam. Wow. Alright.

And I'll just tell you that as you look at the sales figures. Member of the tribe. Can you feel that? I didn't know that. When you look at the sales figures from some of these new metal bands we're kicking out today, sold a fucking ton, a shit ton of units of fucking albums. Like huge numbers.

This was very popular. This was like Dean Bledel songs. He did use this a lot. That motherfucker. Yeah. They're obsessed. all right we all know this fucking song okay yeah this obscure little ditty okay disturbed down with the sickness which would have been a good jam we didn't kick it out right for any like pandemic jams or anything.

I do remember this showed up really, really in the pandemic. Like you'd see playlists going around on Spotify. This was a, this was a mainstay. I remember. Cause I can't get two strikes against me today. Yeah.

Okay. So I will tell you, this is a Chicago band. Oh, did you guys know that from the windy city here? Very cool. Five of their seven albums. And it doesn't include the first album.

Cause bands never do this with their first, rarely do this with their first album,. Five of their seven albums, and it doesn't include the first album because bands never do this with their first album, rarely do this with their first album, but five of their seven albums debuted at number one. Something very difficult. Sorry,

like on the Billboard? Yeah. That's shocking. The real, the 200, the real charts. That's fucking unbelievable. I know.

So like... Disturbed. Yeah, disturbed. I know. So I told you that the sales figure... I think the Sound of Silence

was pretty cool a couple years ago sure yeah this band is super fucking popular sells a lot of units okay they wanted the name

of their band to be Crawl Crawl what but then they heard there was another band named Crawl so they went with Brawl

so the name of this band was Brawl Brawl's coming to town and then they changed it Brawl B-R-A-W-L if you can't hear it with my eastern accent. And then they changed it, Brawl, B-R-A-W-L, if you can't hear it with my Eastern accent here. And then they changed it to Disturbed.

Really keen on a one word. So have you ever been in, is it okay to talk or you got more? I got more. I got more. Let me finish up. I'm almost done. This is the second single released

from their debut album. This is, the album's name is Sickness and, and this song is down with the sickness. That ooh-wah-wah. I can't do it. Do it, Stu. Ooh-wah-wah. What was their other song?

Wah-ha-ha-ha. I'd have to Google that. I don't remember. But that noise was apparently that's David... Draymond. Draymond. Drayma. Drayma, right?

Drayma. He made that effect with his vocal cords because he had surgery for acid reflux. Apparently he credits that surgery with enabling him to make that staccato noise. Sneaky painful. I don't wish it on my worst enemy. Maybe my worst enemy, I don't know.

Maybe Dean Blundo. So this song did not crack the Billboard Hot 100, but it did hit number five on the mainstream rock chart. What say you, Stuart Stone? Well, I'm going to give you some real talk here because I doubt anybody's still listening at this point. Dawn of the Dead was the first single. Dawn of the Dead.

I know who's listening. Jokeroo's listening. Oh, no, I don't mean like live. I'm just saying like the podcast listeners. This guy only wanted was a fucking Pepsi. Only wanted a Pepsi. Hold on. Let's see.

It's an homage. There's a lot more of that, actually. Never stick your head in my face. I can't bitch for you. There's a lot more of that, actually. It's kind of fun. Okay, so here's the deal. Have you ever been in a situation, like a really uncomfortable situation, when you're stuck in a situation with somebody and you both are uncomfortable,

but one of you sort of has to break the ice and you have to just deal with the fact that you're both sort of stuck in that situation? Once a week yes fair enough and that and that but do you know what I'm talking about

sure sure so David Draymon Draymon I don't think there's anything it's just Draymon am I dreaming am I dreaming

I thought there was an end at the end of it but maybe I'm wrong he and I both dated the same girl whoa whoa whoa and so I had been dating her before and then we weren't together I thought there was an end at the end of it, but maybe I'm wrong. He and I both dated the same girl. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And so I had been dating her before, and then we weren't together, and she was with him.

What's the young lady's name? I'm not going to say the name. Sorry, stop the music. I'm not going to say the name of the lady. But wait, so that's amazing. But at some point, and I don't know if he really knew me, but I definitely knew him. really knew me but i definitely knew him sure and so uh one thing i i i ran into them and like we got sort of shuffled into an elevator in a whole waiting area together and so he and i were awkwardly together for quite a period of time so we just got to talking and i found out a lot of overlap no oh well i don't know that she's uh right you'd have to ask her. But as far as I know, I don't know.

Probably, knowing her. But my point is, I found out some interesting facts about him from his mouth that I think that 1236 might even like. He used to live in a yeshiva, which is like a super orthodox Jewish school, like a boarding school, where kids sort of train to be a rabbi just like think some background music

so he actually was training to be you know he was in rabbinical studies he was an orthodox Jew and then you know I think he got maybe kicked out of the yeshiva or for whatever reason his acid reflux he ended up transforming his whole entire life and becoming a rock and roll superstar with the piercings.

He famously had two giant sort of rhino husk looking things coming out of his thing and all that. And there you go. So there's a guy that was an orthodox Jewish man who converted into a rock and roll lifestyle. That's nice and all, but let's get back to this. You dated the same girl as he did. Wow, that's okay.

You know, Ripken dropped a little bomb. He's like Chris Mavridis, who might be at TMLX tomorrow night, who was doing news on 640, dated Jeremy Taggart's girlfriend. Oh, I don't have a very deep dating history, so a real, like a cambrio type, it wouldn't take him very deep dating history, so a real... Like a Cambrio type, it wouldn't take him very long to figure out

who the crossover would have been. Okay, here's a little mind blow for you. Is this Lounge Against the Machine? His name is Richard Cheese. Richard Cheese, right. So anybody who made it this far into the podcast got some good tidbits. Oh, wow.

Okay. Oh, good. Shout out to Dick Cheese. Great story from Stu Stone dating the guy from Disturbs Girlfriends. That's fucking epic, man. I think that's still

settling in. It goes backwards. I was first. We broke up. She dated him. I like fucking epic, man. I think that's still settling in. I was first. We broke up. I liked it better my way. You stole his girl. So I'm saying there could have been some overlap. She's a rock star. You know what? She kind of was bouncing

back and forth. If I find out Monica's with the guy from Gob Smack, I'm going to be like, I understand. The guy from Gob. I think it's God Smack. God Smack. Oh, yeah. I will say Sully is the guy's name from Godsmack. It's not Gobsmack?

No. Gob is a different band. Oh this is also that's an Alice in Chains song. Right? That's an Alice in Chains song. I think Godsmack yeah. I'm very impressed

by how many intersections Stu has with just the personalities of new metal. Yeah it's crazy because this was all blowing up in California when I was there. I guess it's like all of your time yeah.

Which makes sense. I'm going to put some clothes on before my last pick so. Yeah. Okay it's okay. You know there's lots of was there. I guess it's all your time, yeah. I'm going to put some clothes on before my last pick. Okay, it's okay. There's lots of time here. I will say this because it's 10.30 in your time right now. I'm going here for a second. I'll be right back.

Okay, I'll just chat with my friends. So again, tomorrow night is TMLX 7, 6 p.m. Marie Curtis Park. You can Twitter. You can DM. No, we can't see you. Stu's naked, but you cannot see him on the camera. Live.torontomike.com. You never know what's going to pop up.

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Yeah, he's like putting them in. That's expensive. That's like a $50 pair of underwear, I think. I can't see on the camera. I can see. Am I allowed to look? Holy smokes. Okay.

And besides, I just see butt anyways. Relax. Okay. So TMLX 8 is a bigger deal that's going to be uh august 27 when are details on that coming out i'm negotiating so i uh i'm obviously i'm gunning to have it at a certain place that we know and love and uh they aren't sure what they'll be doing then but we're negotiating as soon as it's firmed up the location. All we know, all we don't know, all we are is what we are.

I'm a Vlad Junior. I know. 468. That's how many feet that home run was. I wish he participated in the home run derby. So I'm dressed again. Dressed for success. Welcome back. You've got to kick out this jam because we've got to take a photo and at least I don't have to bring the shit inside.

Alright, here's the deal, folks. You've been waiting all night to hear out this jam because we got to take a photo. Sure. At least I don't have to bring the shit inside. All right. Here's the deal, folks. You've been waiting all night to hear how this whole new metal thing became popular. Do you know what I mean? Sure. Sure. There's one artist that you can give credit for the whole thing. Thanks for closing the dryer. There's a light bulb in there, you know.

Sorry. Cam, can you shut the dryer, please? I'll wait. Woo! Good to see you. There is one artist cam cam gordon yeah there's one artist responsible in my opinion for the explosion of new metal onto the scene oh yeah one artist one single a solo singular artist. A solo artist. Oh, wow. A solo artist. In my opinion, there may have been bands playing new metal style music prior, but this solo artist, in my opinion, is solely responsible for the explosion,

the popularization of the category. I stand by this pick as my number one, the godfather of new metal. Slow burn here. Okay. Let it soak over you. Hold on. I guess it would be nice We'll be right back. Shake your tush, Tim. So we're listening to George Michael, Faith. Devotion Well it takes To stop me baby But I'm Showing you The door

Cause I gotta have faith So we're listening To George Michael Faith You know this song Was written And produced By George Michael

And that album Faith was a great album 1987 Yeah I have father figures On there Everything He wrote and produced You know

Thank you Before it was popular To do so By the likes of Others I heard him I heard him I know Prince was famous Bring him to Kingston with you

Do you know how Prince is famously Known for playing all the instruments And being very meticulous And Billy Corgan has that reputation as well George Michael man That album is a great album Top to bottom He did all of it

Of all the songs I played today This is the biggest hit album is great album top to bottom he did all that all of it all of it seven singles of all the songs i played today this is the biggest hit number one in canada and the united states who can forget the video george michael shaking his tush in those blue jeans va va va voom there you go the stuff that makes dreams come to look Jeff Woods is a big fan. Only fans. A little country kind of in here. A little bit of a little twang. Remember when this first hit? Remember when you heard this on 680 CFTR and you're like, what a jam?

Yeah, still a jam. I remember it very well. What an album. It reminded me of Elvis Presley. There's definitely some stuff there. If you listen to Monica and Stu

in the morning, we got George Michael Faith. Much like you. So George Michael is like Stu Stone. That's not his real last name.

What? Oh, baby, yeah. What's his real last name? Some popopolis. It's like Greek or something. Some long Greek

name. Shout out to man. Film me. Hold on. Hold on. Jump for something more. K to man. Hold on. Hold on. You want me to go straight into your mind blow? I'm getting a text telling you to give a little dance.

I'm not going to do that. So there you go. There is the godfather of new metal. Because without that song, MTV doesn't play this song and the band that's not going to get Hanson's. But I gotta think twice Before I give my heart away And I know all the games you play Cause I play them too Oh, but I need some time off From that emotion

Time to pick my heart up off the floor And that love comes down Without devotion Well, it takes a strong man, baby Love comes down without devotion Well, it takes a strong man, baby I'm showing you that door I'm gonna have faith Gonna have faith Gonna have faith

Gonna have faith, baby Limp Bizkit the song that put them on the map was a cover of the song Faith a song oh my god I forgot to mention that Linkin Park something about them that Chester didn't want that song on the album and it ended up being their biggest

one of those types anyway I think Wes Borland had some creative differences about having this be on the lead single and that caused some problems, but they pulled it together, folks, and it became one of the most influential, biggest selling acts. You know, I still love it. I don't care if it's good or bad.

I don't know, but I still love it. I think it works. I love this cover. It works. And I think Limp Bizkit sort of set the pace for these sort of taking a cover and fucking turning it on its head. Like, I've never heard another cover of a song that was

this drastically different and still uniquely awesome. Fear Factory curse. Sounds like a challenge. Sounds like a pandemic Friday. The reason I was trying to get you to stop talking is in case you went this way. I didn't want to bury the lead here.

Limp Bizkit, of course. It's so funny because DJ Lethal. DJ Lethal. He's scratching right now. He produced this song. Wow. I like the comment here from YYZ Gord. He says, Cannot believe you're still going.

Cam, I want you to read the text message chain because you know what? The rain really fucked up. Can you read this text chain okay where do I start if I call you in a few hours you have to say it out loud like when you okay so this is so that's him in the blue right

this is me in the blue okay so Sue saying to DJ Lethal if I call you in a few hours it will be live in Toronto Mic Show. We are playing new metal tracks, and my number one is LB. Which is Limp Bizkit. So I'll try you.

Would only be a quick hello. You also don't have to answer if you don't want to. No pressure. Lethal replies, Welp, I'm going on stage in a bit. Limp Bizkit's playing tonight. There you go. So you're saying, you're saying, because I could have called him.

Let him finish. So this, he eventually came. He said, I can do it right now or nada. Oh, we had him all night. It was raining.

Yeah. We should have done it. Yeah. I didn't know. Oh, yeah. I didn't know. Where are they playing tonight,

dude? Do we know? I don't know. That's Murphy. Is that Murphy's law? Whose law is that? That's fucked up. Wait,

wait. So, okay. Some more words. Word or like 1030. I'll hit ya. See what's up. But it's 1030 now. I think he means 1030 LA time.

But maybe not. I'll text him. But my plan was to have Lethal come on and tell us about Faith first hand. So were you going to have me call him from here? I was just going to FaceTime him. But Limp Bizkit, Fred Durst, John Otto, Sam Rivers, Wes Borland, DJ Lethal, they're back together, the original lineup.

They're on tour. They're playing Lollapalooza in Chicago next month. They're going all over the place. They're in Hammond, Indiana playing right now. Oh, so maybe he is available. I'll give him a shout. I think Indiana's like an hour difference. That's an hour, yeah.

Here's some fun facts for you guys um the band was named limp biscuit and this goes back to the hawk how we opened this fucking disaster of a show durst named the band limp biscuit because he wanted a name that would repel listeners yeah according to durst the name is there to turn people's heads away a lot of people pick up the disc and go limp biscuit oh theykit, oh, they must suck. Those are the people we don't even want listening to our music. Oh, smart. Get rid of all those people right away.

Other names that were considered by Durst included Gimp Disco, Split Dixlet, Bitch Piglet, and Blood Fart. Well, they made the right choice. They did. Blood Fart. Durst unsuccessfully tried to attract attention by pretending to be the band's manager. They have a whole story of how they got on. He basically hit up Korn.

We played them a few times in round one. Right, sure. And offered them free tattoos when they came to Jacksonville. They're from Jacksonville, Florida. They came to his place. He gave them kind of shitty tattoos. And they invited Limp Bizkit to join them on tour.

Then they added Lethal to the band. And the band fucking took the fuck off. Beginning with the album Significant Other in 1999, that's Cam's favorite album of theirs, DJ Lethal expanded his role from DJ to the sound designer for the band and essentially was responsible for most of their unique sound as a producer and as a musician. So very cool stuff.

And of course, Lethal was in House of Pain prior and brought that hip-hop energy and the turntable stuff that people weren't doing yet. There was no Sugar Ray happening yet. There was none of that DJ. But there was Anthrax in Public Enemy. none of that dj but there was there was anthrax in public enemy sure but that was just a one-shot deal that wasn't like the dj was in the band you're right we haven't mentioned beastie boys too i feel like they were they were not

rock mashing up with hip-hop you can't right well because those guys were a punk rock act before they were rappers sure they were hey you want to hear some fun facts real quickly about this festival that Mbiska's playing right now as we speak? It's that the headliner for last night's show, this is like I said, a festival in Indiana. Last night's show, this is courtesy of 1236, by the way. Subscribe at 1236.ca. Last night's headliner was Nelly. Whoa. And tomorrow night's headliner is REO fucking Speedwagon.

Oh, that's sick. Wow. I love that festival. That's some range. So that's happening in Hamlet, Indiana. and tomorrow night's headliner is REO fucking Speedway I love that festival that's some range so that's happening in Hamlet, Indiana today's like the metal day probably they're on stage from 7pm till 10.30pm oh Nelly and Busta Rhymes were double billed

and Sammy Hagar apparently is on Saturday if he can't drive 55 alright guys any more fun facts on Limp Bizkit what a great way to finish our is on Saturday. The Red Rocker. If you can't drive 55. Okay. All right, guys. Any more fun facts on Limp Bizkit? What a great way to finish our...

By the way, which I think the quality of the jams much higher than people would have anticipated, I think, for a new metal. I'm glad we finally got to this.

Also, I think the main takeaway is how massive some of these songs were in these albums. Like these were like number one hits, number one albums. Disturbed and Limp Bizkit.

All these bands sold millions and millions of albums. Like this shit was so fucking popular. Even like, I can't remember. I'm so tired. Yeah, I'm exhausted now. Like who's Wade and Bleed? It just hit me like a ton of bricks. Who sang Wade and Bleed?

What was that name of that band? Slipknot. I got here six hours ago. Stone Sour. Remember it was sunny? I have Hepzion Sports in the fucking morning. I might as well just keep the mic on. Should we just sleep over? There you go. We do have to take our picture here.

There's something I gotta say though, Mike, in closing. Go ahead. And that. And that. That brings us to the end of our 886th show. Oh, I'm sorry about your acid reflux, buddy. You can follow me on Twitter.

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