Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Paris Black: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1892

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

In this 1892nd episode of Toronto Mike'd, Mike chats with pop/rock singer, actor and professional model Paris Black about his wild life. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewe...ry, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, everybody, it's Paris Black. Very excited to do my Toronto Mike debut. And this is the beer. I won't be drinking, but it's still good beer. You can't drink it if you want. Oh, I can't drink it just because of my diagnosis. I can't... Did the doctors say no alcohol?
Starting point is 00:00:18 Yeah, yeah. Well, basically, I wouldn't say the doctor said that. I kind of said that. I started doing a lot of reading. And, yeah, although I haven't drank here, so it's not really an excuse. Well, we'll get into it. I used to go hard on the beer, you know, like in all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:34 You know, you're doing different. Let me welcome the listenership to episode 1,892, 1892 of Toronto-Miked. An award-winning podcast, proudly brought to you by Great Lakes Brewery. Order online at greatlakesbier.com for free local home delivery in the GTA. Palma Pasta. Enjoy the taste of fresh, homemade Italian pasta and entrees from Palmapasta in Mississauga and Oakville. Visit palmapasta.com for more. Fusion Corpso, Nick Aeini's.
Starting point is 00:01:13 He's the host of Building Toronto Skyline. And Mike and Nick, two podcasts that you ought to listen to. Recycle MyElectronics.ca. Committing to our planet's future means properly recycling our. Electronics of the Past. And Redley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Joining me today, making his Toronto Mike to debut.
Starting point is 00:01:38 It is indeed Paris Black. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you, Mike. And, you know, although I don't normally drink, how could I possibly turn down Great Lakes Light? That's a premium logger. And that's delicious. You're going to crack that?
Starting point is 00:01:56 Oh, on the mic, there you go. Paris, Black. Now drinking a Great Lakes beer. Which I don't drink. So this is something. But I like, you know, it gives me an excuse. You know, I used to drink quite a lot. Well, I'm honored that you would break your streak for me here, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:14 I hope you're not in recovery or anything like that. Oh, no. No, it was just, I just, just a few years ago I discovered that it would probably be better if I didn't. And especially since the cancer diagnosis, I thought, yeah. Maybe it'd be better I stay away from all kinds of possible things that might aggravate stuff, you know? Well, clean living, right? Clean living, right, right. My clean living includes Great Lakes Beer and Palma pasta lasagna.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Do you want me to send you home with a delicious lasagna from Palma pasta? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm serious. No, I know you're serious. I'm excited. I just, you know, I sold out of the CD, but I'm doing a new, CD and I'll probably put this one on vinyl.
Starting point is 00:02:59 But anyway, here you go, please take it. It's not worth, it's not worth the pasta, but it's fantastic. So, uh, great. It says, I'm not Jesus and I was sure I'm not. I'm not. But I was sure I booked cheese for this episode. I was told you were Jesus. You're not Jesus.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Uh, no, I'm not. But, um, does Jesus have abs like that? Um, I don't know. He was a carpenter. So we worked really hard, you know, so, um, Yeah, I definitely know I'm not Jesus. But, yeah, I have kind of disappeared since the diagnosis too. But, I mean, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:03:36 I'm meeting you and here on Toronto mics. And it was a beautiful day outside. Oh, it's pretty nice anyway. You know, having you here, and we're going to talk about this diagnosis, because somebody told me something and I said, that can't be true. But now that I see you, you look, I mean, you look well and you sound well. and we're going to get into it, but I just want to let you know
Starting point is 00:03:58 how you ended up down here in the basement. Okay. You ready? So there's a movie called Junkie Run that was directed by a guy named Kiri Pappets. Okay? So Kiri Pappets makes a movie in Hamilton. I'm going to Hamilton tomorrow, by the way.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Oh, nice. Well, I don't know if it's nice. Like, that's not the reaction you typically. I find people are very nice in Hamilton. Yeah, I joke. They're extremely nice. Shout out Tom Wilson from Junkhouse. But, okay, so tomorrow I'm going there.
Starting point is 00:04:24 but Kiri Papu-Pappets. I always call them Papoots, and his wife came over, Liz Worth, and told me it's Papitz. So I've been saying his name wrong for years. But that's not the story here. The story here is that Kiri Papetz made a movie called Junkie Run, and in his movie is a guy named David Bronstein.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Do you know the name David Bronstein? I do know David Bronstain, yeah. So we're talking about dial-a-date, okay? Pick up the phone, talk to beautiful young ladies, or whatever he was doing, right? Yeah. And he drops the name Paris Black, and he talks about how there were competitors in the space.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And one guy doing something, Paris Black. And he says the name Paris Black. And I remember Paris Black. You were all over the place, Paris Black. And then with the help of Keri, he kind of connected me to you. And I'm like excited that you're here making your Toronto Mike debut, the Paris Black. I'm honored. You know, it's really funny.
Starting point is 00:05:19 I've had several lives in one life. So the first time my life was public, I was a pop idol in the late 80s and early 90s and traveled the world. It was fantastic. And then the next stop, after doing some modeling through Europe and stuff and coming back,
Starting point is 00:05:38 the next stop after that was this guy, Mendi Erlich was doing a show to compete with David Bronstien's show. Dial-a-date, yeah. So it was called The Dateline. And we shot it in Florida for 10 years. So that wasn't too bad, you know? So that was a lot of fun. Could have been worse.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Could have been worse. And I think nobody remembers that. Like I always think nobody's going to remember that. But they do. I'm so surprised. And then from there, from there, I guess it was the doing statue stuff all over at the casinos and fitness modeling. And then it went to this Billy Idol tribute that I traveled. traveled all around and went like in Las Vegas and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And then it was the rebirth of Paris Black, the recording artist. Yeah, that's not a, you'll have to get you better copies. And yeah, that's sort of where I've stuck as well as doing figure modeling and traveling around the world again. You're on Toronto Mike, which means we're going to get into it. We're going to spend a little time, slow right down. We're going to get to know the Paris Black. I've got questions, obviously. I even have some music loaded up here, but I got to get to the, I feel like the 900-pound gorilla in the room.
Starting point is 00:07:01 I have to address it right now. Because when I decided, so when David Bronstein dropped your name, I had this moment of like, I've got to get Paris Black on Toronto mic. Like, this is how I am. I'm like a dog with a bone in his mouth. I'm just really, I'm amazed that somebody remembers those shows. But they were on all over North America, so you think that people would remember them. but I pretty much have forgotten them.
Starting point is 00:07:25 By the way, how's the beer? The beer is fantastic. That's your first beer in some time, right? In a very long time. I've had de-alcoholized beer. Oh yeah, near beer or whatever. Is that any good? Yeah, if you don't have the real stuff, it's good.
Starting point is 00:07:40 But as soon as you have the real stuff again, it's not that good. See, if I'm going to have a beer with no alcohol, I'm like, just give me a Coke Zero or something. Like, I got to say, I like a little, a little, buzz in my beer, you know? Uh-huh. It just means I'm not going to get drunk and then I, you know, and I bike everywhere so I can have a couple or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It's fine. But if I'm not, if there's no alcohol, then I don't need a beer. I just give me like a Coke Zero or a Diet Pepsi or something like that. All I wanted was a Pepsi. You remember this song? Institutionalized by, yeah, remember this? All I want, suicidal tendencies. All I wanted was a Pepsi.
Starting point is 00:08:13 I remember suicidal tendencies. I do remember that. The big jam. But I never had that. That's my wife when she was young. she had suicidal tendencies. Oh, okay. Well, I wasn't even prying there,
Starting point is 00:08:24 but I'm glad that you didn't. I mean, I'm sorry for your wife. No, it was just, no, she doesn't have it now. It was just a... Okay, but on that note, because your wife's not here, but that's a good launching pad because I was told when I was trying
Starting point is 00:08:38 to get Paris Black on Toronto Mike, I was told, you know, he's dying. Like, multiple people are like, I don't know if he can do it. He's dying. Like, so people, there's an assumption out there that you're dying of cancer and you're on your deathbed, but I'm looking at you right now. Can you set the record straight?
Starting point is 00:08:56 How is your health? What's going on with Paris Black? Well, yeah, I guess it's accurate. I am dying of this cancer. It can't be cured. It's a stage four, started in the prostate, went to the lymph nose and bones now. But, you know, the chemo and everything for the last 14 months has been hard, but I use the Paxman cold capping system to keep my hair.
Starting point is 00:09:22 So if anybody's going through chemo and they want to keep their hair, I would highly recommend the Paxman hair cooling system. Or Miss Paxman. Well, you know, whatever, whatever. But your hair, I'll tell the listenership, your hair looks great. So that's real deal. You use some process or technique to keep your hair. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:09:43 I didn't. So there's that. And are we on that? Are we, are we, are we, they're going to see us? They can't see us, yeah. They can see us, yeah. Okay, good, yeah, I saw your show and they could see the people, so I'm just wondering. So it's the viewership.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Right now they're checking out your, it's the viewers. You know what, that's a good point. There are viewers, but like, they're really, it's the listenership I care about. I don't care about those damn viewers. But if they're looking at the video on my YouTube channel right now, then what they're seen is a great head of hair. Well, thank you. But that's me, Paris, not you.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No, no, that is you. That is you do have fantastic. You do have fantastic here. You got great hair, too. Thank you so much. So, yeah, so it's a serious situation. And, you know, getting diagnosed with stage four cancer was not a, you know, not a happy day. When did this happen?
Starting point is 00:10:34 This happened. This happened March 12th of last year. 2025. 2025, yeah. And the thing is, so far, as far as I know, the chemos are keeping the cancers. in check. I mean, you can't, you can't, you can't, like, get rid of it. You can keep it in check. Like, contain it. You can kind of, you can contain it. Eventually, it will spread and it will, you know, there won't be, there's not a ring in the bell moment for me. But, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:06 the longer I survive, the more chance there is, uh, that it might be a manageable situation than I could last, you know, quite a number of years. So, I don't know, or it could be over really fast, but that's just the way it is. What I'm doing now is I'm just doing as much as I can. I'll have a new record coming out on Attack Media Group Universal. And
Starting point is 00:11:35 when I go to the next round of treatment, when it goes to like a heavier treatment, it will probably affect my singing voice. So yeah. So, So you're recording while you can. I'm recording while I can. You get a bank that's like Prince, right?
Starting point is 00:11:52 You can have a vault. Yeah, and I am. Oig, you got a vault. What a vault? We're talking about the Brunstein with a good. Anyway. Are you allowed to do that? Do you have to be Jewish to do that accent?
Starting point is 00:12:03 No, you don't have to be. You don't have to be. Yeah. That's just fun. And I know David is a fun guy. Yeah. And that doesn't mean he's a mushroom. He's just a really.
Starting point is 00:12:13 A fun guy, I get it. Great guy to hang around with it. I was looking at you're so many things, right? your model, your actor, your host, your singer, and then you can throw in the mix comic, right? You got some comedic chops in there, Paris. Hey, is the name, is black? Like, this is a fake name, right?
Starting point is 00:12:29 You could not possibly be a Paris black. But it's not as fake as you might think. So what happened is I had a, I had, my mother had a number of husbands. And one of my stepfathers was a guy named Arnold Paris. Oh. It was from the island of Jamaica, you know. And he used to do reggae.
Starting point is 00:12:47 That accent? I need the rules. Yeah, I can do it. But I don't know. I think my stepfather with Jamaica, so I can do the thing, you know. Well, snow can do it. Snow can do it.
Starting point is 00:12:58 And that's no problem at all. But the thing was, with my stepdad there, his name was Arnold Paris, and he used to bring me on stage with him and said, this is my son. First of all, it was Little Paris. And then it was Paris black as a joke, because I was so fair and he was so dark.
Starting point is 00:13:15 But then when I got my first record, deal. They were like, do you have a catchy nickname? And I said, yeah, my dad calls me Paris Black. So that's how that name came about. I think it's time. Like, we're going to get into a bunch of stuff here over the next hour, Paris. But I'm going to play a little music, if that's okay, just a little bit, just so we could. Great. Because there's so many chapters to your life. Well, I'm going to surprise you here. Okay. Better get ready. Get ready. Get Redicots, here I come tonight. Who's on guitar here?
Starting point is 00:13:58 Uh, oh gosh. Oh gosh. Joe Satriani. Oh, okay, thanks. Well, let me hear the vocals. Don't pretend to make you feel like I do. When I'm close to you. Woo!
Starting point is 00:14:24 Here we go. But it's in the air when I take you there tonight. Better get ready Because here I come tonight Better get ready for... This is from Secret Seduct... Oh, I don't want to talk over you, Perry. You want to see the whole thing?
Starting point is 00:14:49 No, no, no, no, you want to be. All right. Well, Secret Seduction, right? This is your debut album. Yeah. So how do we get there? This is 1988. Mm-hmm. Like, you...
Starting point is 00:14:56 I don't know. I'm looking at you now. You don't look much older than me. How old are you in 88? Is that top secret? It's top secret. I was four. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Well, maybe. Maybe the pair of jeans you're wearing was four, but okay. So 1988, secret seduction. Yeah. How did we get there, man? Because you were like a model, right? Right, right. So the thing was, I had some friends, John Biancini in his band, actually, is I think, in Lou Fashion.
Starting point is 00:15:27 And they were playing at rock and roll heaven in Toronto, the old one. And so I'd come back to Canada. I was modeling different places. and I came back to Canada and some of my modeling agents and stuff were there. And their singer didn't show up that night. So what I did, I did impersonations. Oh. So I did impersonations of a bunch of singers and fronted the band for this one night just doing impersonations.
Starting point is 00:15:52 And this was the 80s. So record deals were possible like from almost nothing. So I was up there, you know, dancing around and doing... And you're already handsome. Oh, you are handsome, but you're a model. Yeah. So, well, you know, I don't know. The things came together where I was offered a record contract literally that night,
Starting point is 00:16:12 which is so weird, you know, but this was the 80s. It's the way things went. And then I started studying more serious vocals with Elaine Overholt in Toronto and started studying dance with Angela Johnson, who there's a different, I've got two Angela Johnson friends, but this was a different Angela Johnson. And, yeah, so then, I went into the songwriting process
Starting point is 00:16:36 where they got like a team of people around me headed by Steve Sexton and Gerald O'Brien. I can't believe I'm remembering this. And Jerry Mosby. And basically we're locked up for, I don't know, six months or something writing songs.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And then they decided what the top ten were. And this was one of them. Also, I had been running with my old friends as well. so that was John Bang Keeney, Lou Fashon, and Terry Terry, I can't remember
Starting point is 00:17:14 it was last time in Terry David Mulligan. Terry something. And Mike, and also Mike, he's from, just, just,
Starting point is 00:17:20 just off the cuff, my brain's a bit fried, so, that's okay, you've been through some shit, man. Yeah, have been,
Starting point is 00:17:26 having. But I have a really, Mike Treblecock from Hamilton. From the Killjoys. Yes. I've had him on. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 So, love the kill joys. Yeah, and he was a great writer, a great person. And, you know, I've remained friends with everybody from that era, which is almost 40 years ago now, you know. So it is 40 years ago when we were putting this stuff together. Sure. I can't believe it, but wow, it is.
Starting point is 00:17:50 And, you know, it was magic. The 80s were magic. Like, things could happen because the entertainment business made money in those days. Recording artists made money in those days. so they would sign you up then and you know write you a ticket like you got you got all this money and you didn't have to do much else
Starting point is 00:18:12 and then you go on a big tour and I was very lucky that this guy Bruce Crosby who started out this thing called Just Music and Video he was playing all the high schools across the country and he'd seen my first video
Starting point is 00:18:28 which was buried alive on much music and he actually asked if I would go across the country with them to all these schools. And I was like, that was like hundreds and hundreds of gigs. Like every, every week I would do six high schools, seven high schools. And this is late 80s because when you think about that, you think about like Max Webster or April Wine. Well, that's the thing. I was a pop idol. So I was not a rock and roll artist at this point in time. And so my, my target audience was younger. and it worked out really well.
Starting point is 00:19:04 I became the second most requested artist on video hits just below Samantha Taylor. Yeah, Samantha Taylor, right. Used to watch it every day. Yeah, and then... Wait, wait, so you were just behind Corey Hart? Yeah, second. Wow.
Starting point is 00:19:17 And letters coming in. Do you wear your sunglasses at night? Well, actually, the thing was the next host of video... I don't think we'd get here to this thing here, too. The next host of after Samantha Taylor was a guy named Brian Elliott, who I became really good friends with. And when I went on video hits, I always imitated Brian Elliott.
Starting point is 00:19:36 So I was behind. This is Brian Elliott from video hits. My next guest is Paris Black. So, you know. You do impersonations, but you know what? You didn't reveal yet that I'm going to get before we get too far beyond it.
Starting point is 00:19:50 When you jump on stage at rock and roll heaven there, what artist were you imitating? What did you record do? When, oh, you're talking about, Like, well, you did, no, you did an impersonation on stage at rock and roll heaven that night that somebody with power saw you and said, we're offering you a record. I did a lot of, I did a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You know, I did Elvis, I did Mick Jagger, I did John Cougar, I did John Cougar, I did Neil Young, and did quite a few people. You know, so at that time I just sort of did a cavalcade of voices and it was quite interesting, I think, for the crowd. and obviously it went over well because afterwards there's two people offered me record contracts that night.
Starting point is 00:20:34 This was the 80s again. It's so different. Yeah, but I just heard Better Get Ready in the headphones right now. You got pipes on you, like so you could sing. And it's just interesting because I almost feel like
Starting point is 00:20:43 we need to go back a little further because you're a model. Like, I don't understand the modeling origin story. Like, did you just look in the mirror one day as a teenager and say, oh damn, I'm handsome. I should be doing this.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Like, so you're a model and you're a model and you're touring the world as a model before you get on stage at rock and roll heaven and get that record deal. And we just heard, you know, you mentioned buried alive. I could have played lover. Yeah. Better get ready. Like there are multiple singles coming off this thing.
Starting point is 00:21:11 But can you just maybe go back a little bit and tell me, how did you get discovered as a model? You know, thank you for this. This was one of the best interviews I've ever done, actually going all the way back. So we're just getting started, Paris. Okay. So what had happened was I had been, I was here in Toronto. Okay. And I wanted to be...
Starting point is 00:21:31 Well, how did you get to Toronto? Like, I hate to interrupt you because I need to go further back because you were born in Denmark, right? And then I moved to England by 18 months. Okay. And then when I was 10, I came to Toronto. 10 years old, you come to Toronto. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:43 And what I wanted to do was either be a boxer or an impersonator. So thinking, thinking because I didn't quite have the, I want to say the heavyweight champion. ship means everything. Joe Frazier came out smoking. Muhammad Ali wasn't joking. I was pecking, poking, part upon
Starting point is 00:22:07 Joe Frazier smoking. I want Joe Frazier. I want Joe Frazier. And Mr. Cotty and all the signor's bliss. I don't know what that means, but I'm very happy. We're my mother's the saint. And I said, Mick Jagger's birthday party. Mick Jagger, Rony Woods, and Keith Richards
Starting point is 00:22:23 old standing in the row, drinking a bottle of something and said, Rebel, yell. I said, lads, you have that made up? A case like, no, it's the southern Mash of Mississippi. And I said, well, brilliant. Rebel Yale is not really a stones. It's not really a street fighting, man. So, anyway, I was doing this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:38 She wants more, more, more, more. In the middle of an hour. I loved Billy Idol. When they gave me my record contract, I thought I was going to be a Billy Idol. I didn't realize that I'd be, lover, make love to me tonight. I didn't think, I would think I thought I was,
Starting point is 00:22:56 move. Anyway. But but you do realize that in the video for Rebel Yell, isn't Billy Idol boxing? Well, why do I, like I'm picturing it, isn't he in a boxing ring or something? Oh, that's got to be a lover. Oh, okay, okay. Because you remember the greatest hits package of Vital Idol. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I loved Vital Idol, but I didn't like the
Starting point is 00:23:18 version of Moni, Moni on. Thank you to Great Lakes. Paris has broken in sobriety and he's never been happier. This is rock and roll heaven, Paris Black. Okay, but we're bouncing. So let me just. Yeah, get back to you want to be a boxer or an impersonator and then fuck it'll be a model. Well, no, what happened was, what happened was,
Starting point is 00:23:37 so in my mind, I'd done a few shows up here in Canada and the competition was too tough. So I figured, you know, why not go to New York? It'll be easier there because Jim Carrey was around at the time. Him and I were both doing impersonations in the clubs. Sure. And I was coming second.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Jim Carrey all the time, you know. And so I was like, this guy shows up and he beats me every week at a different competition. Although one, I beat him. I won, I did beat him in the, I won this Toronto's most promising entertainer, like in, I don't know, in 80s. You beat Jim Carrey. One time. I would get a T-shirt that says I beat Jim Carrey.
Starting point is 00:24:16 One time out of a thousand. Anyway, so I thought it would be better in New York. Yeah. And I so believed in myself, I went down to New York with like $100 in my pocket. and bought a shirt for Catch a Rising Star that cost $70 something dollars. Oh yeah, back then too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:31 So I thought, okay, now I look like a star. So I did my Catcher Rising Star set, and they said that was great. Come back next week. Now, what I expected to hear was that's great. You're going to be on Saturday and it left him in these television shows. All these things are going to happen to you. So that's what I thought was going to happen. It's not what happened.
Starting point is 00:24:49 So I was literally walking aimlessly in the streets of New York. And the first night, this group of people took me in to this kind of burned out building. And there was candles, coffees, and donuts. And the next day I was walking around, and somebody from the Willamina agency talked to me. And I literally, it was like this whole stuff, the way everything happened was quite miraculous. Yeah. And I started doing modeling and got paid a lot more than, you know, I thought it was possible at that time. And then I did this show in rock and roll heaven. And one of my modeling agents
Starting point is 00:25:32 was a guy named Bob Parr. And there's another guy Gary Grezzellie. And they thought, oh, wait, I think he can be a singer. So, yeah, it didn't take me long to decide if I should sign that contract or not. Because I've always hated early mornings. I haven't saw me and I can't sleep. and I had been offered a track scholarship to University of Las Vegas, but I thought this was going to be more early mornings. So I thought being a pop idol sounds better. Okay, so this is before you jump on stage at rock and roll heaven.
Starting point is 00:26:09 But I had been, I'd already been like on stage in comedy clubs doing my impersonations and dancing around and I'm imitating a lot, Mick Jagger and Lewis, you know, like, Yeah, I hear it. It's good. It's a child really.
Starting point is 00:26:21 like, like, you know, the third shows, like, you know, it's intimate. I heard you do a very good John Travolta. Right. And do you want to guess the name of the woman who was John Travolta's vocal coach? Elaine Overholt. Yeah. And how do you know Elaine Overhalt? So she was my vocal coach.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yeah. So you and John Travolta share the same vocal coach. Yeah, but she doesn't put me on her resume. She puts John Travolta on her resume. That's her problem. Yeah. No, she was fantastic. And it really, really helped me.
Starting point is 00:26:54 Yeah, it would really help me. Because the first, the first album especially, and going on for that, but the first album was really about the intonation, and I was doing a soft voice kind of a singing, which I later changed into more of a screaming kind of a sing, but the soft voice kind of a singing, which I really needed to learn my articulation
Starting point is 00:27:14 and to breathe properly and all of this. So she really helped, and it was very tight. It was very tight. the dancing was really tight. And, yeah, it was a different kind of a vibe than I got to later. Okay, now I have a question about the singles you released off Secret Seduction. You enjoy that Great Lakes beer while I asked this question. I'm enjoying this beer.
Starting point is 00:27:39 I was doing a little, you know, research there. Thank you. And better get ready, which was the jam I played, because I was hoping you'd sing along. It's a banger, right? But top 10 on Canadian radio? right about that? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:52 On the Cancon charts? In the Cancon charts, yeah. The Cancon charts, yeah. Well, that's no small achievement, brother. Well, there was a few that did really well. And I was, you know, I kept thinking everything would be over in a couple of weeks. Or as soon as this current contract I had was done, I kept thinking things would be over. To the point where when my contract was over for the first album Secret Seduction,
Starting point is 00:28:17 I was going to go drown myself in Mexico. I did try to try. But you told me earlier in this conversation that you had no suicidal tendencies. Then at that point in time, because I really had come from a difficult, you know, situation where I was living in foster homes and so like that. Well, do you want to just touch on,
Starting point is 00:28:35 give us that context a little bit? We skipped over that. We had you, you're in England, while you're born in Denmark, you're in England, and then at 10 years old you show up in Toronto. Right. Next thing you know it,
Starting point is 00:28:45 you're going to be a boxer slash impersonator, and you get signed to a modeling agency and end up singing with this Elaine Overhaul. There was a time in between there where I was, so I wound up through various ways in foster homes. And my sister died, and it was really tough in there.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Sorry. Yeah, it was really tough. And then all of a sudden, all this great stuff started to happen. and yeah, I just couldn't believe how everything had turned around. And I'd been homeless for a bit at 15. And so once all the stuff started happening and I started to do these charities in association with people with the purpose and I started putting all my money into charities for the homeless
Starting point is 00:29:39 and, you know, that was my mission because I couldn't figure out how something like this could happen to me. I thought, like, I didn't really deserve it. I knew so many better musicians, better singers, better dancers. So I thought, okay, this happened to me. I must, you know, it must be something. So I tried to do helping the homeless thing for a very long time, like 13 years, and put all my money in there. And then I did make a lot of money in this period, like really a lot.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Is that by modeling, or is it because you're a pop idol? It was both, but it was more the pop idol thing. Because I played, you know, I played six times a week or so. And I got, like, we would sign other deals for different territories and we'd get that money up front. And first is better get ready to get ready to just played. It was in this movie called Total Wedlock. Starting, starting, she was somebody from 90210.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I can't remember now. Tori spelling. Another one. Jason Priestley. Girl. Oh, girl. Okay. Let me, I could do this.
Starting point is 00:30:45 The Kelly character. There's a Kelly Taylor. Her name's alluding me. Yeah, me too. But, yeah, so it was her movie. Jenny Garth. Oh, is it somebody else? Somebody else.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Okay. Anyway, so we'll figure it. We have to get this. Yeah, so. Yeah, there was quite a bit of money coming in. What's the name of that movie? A total dread wedlock, I think, or something like that. Okay, you keep yakking and I'll see what I can dig up.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Anyway, so then my manager, decided he wanted to manage Chris Schultz. Remember from the Toronto Argos? Yeah, he's no longer with us, but he had a great mustache. Yeah, he was a great guy. Of course, he was a broadcaster. Yeah, we became really good friends at this time. Actually, I was over at his house with my lady and his wife
Starting point is 00:31:33 when the first video came on to TV, and we were eating Chinese food, and my fortune cookie said your musical ability will soon be noted. This was in October of, 1987, a Halloween night actually. And they played buried alive. Anyway, so my manager was also into boxing and turned out Chris was quite good. And he started training with Adrian Tudor Rescue and Lennox Lewis.
Starting point is 00:32:04 At the time Lennox Lewis was in Toronto. Lennox Lewis. Yeah, he spent a lot of time here. Yeah. Yeah. So manager said, you know, I think managing the next heavyweight champion will be do better for me. and I was just devastated, you know. So I went to Mexico and started to swim out in the ocean,
Starting point is 00:32:23 and I did. I swam way out like at dawnish. And once I was out there and I couldn't see the shore, I had this glistening cross on, this crystal, not this one, it was glistening. Crucifix. Silver, silver cross, crucifix. And there was a bunch of barracudas that were surrounding me in the clear waters of Mexico.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Um, anyway, so I took off the cross and dropped it hundreds of feet down and they all followed it. And then I thought, I took that to be a sign I was supposed to live. So I tritted water until it got dark so I could see where the shore was. Right. And then I swam back, kissed the sand. And not long after I got back, I got a call from Isbassoni Records in Montreal. And they said, uh, we got them, uh, good news. There's more, but more's felonusi.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I'm Velanosi, I'm impersonating, and I was just jumping into my head. I can remember this phone call. I was, well, we got good news for Ithba Thoney, and we have good news for you, Perth, that we want to assign you to our label, and so I did, and that was where Sony muscles sort of got behind things, too, and things went really well, again for a few years. I can't say that I was the most dedicated of people at this point in time. This point in time I did drink rather heavily, like really, really heavily. And I kind of started putting a crimp into my shows.
Starting point is 00:33:53 When I got back from this tour of Japan, they released me to. So, yeah, that's just how everything sort of came about and got to that point. So how many albums were distributed by Sony? The two? The first one was by something called Music Color Records. in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. And that's secret seduction. That's secret seduction.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And also trend records in Canada. Okay. And then the second album was Isbassoni, and that was a lot of places in the world in Canada. And a little bit happened in the States. And then that brought me to the television show that we opened. Okay, so before we get to TV, though, so your music career, it takes you to China, Hong Kong,
Starting point is 00:34:42 Kong, which is now part of China, fun fact. Italy, France, Germany. Like, you're going concerned, man. You're traveling with your music as a pop idol. Well, then, see, the next album, the one that I gave you, the burned one, was the... This one, the one that tells me you're not Jesus. I'm not, I got to fire my booker. I said, get me Jesus.
Starting point is 00:35:05 And he's like, I got you not Jesus. I'm not Jesus. I want Jesus. Yeah. So anyway, yeah. So my manager then, Mark Berry, the producer, got me to this manager, Giuseppe Bramante in Italy, in Milan. And so he booked me all over the place there in Europe again. And when I came back, I ended up getting booked in China, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:35:32 And you mean here at home for the locals here, you played the opera house? Yes, yes. Well, you know, I did actually a lot. But what happened was, this is crazy stuff, but what happened was this ne'er-do-well, got my manager's information, charged up $200,000 on his credit card. And then he wanted us apart ways.
Starting point is 00:35:58 This was just after Jeff Burns had become my actual manager. This was my financial manager, and Jeff Burns was the manager. Jeff Burns, he's got a Juno named After him and everything. So a song from this album called Breathe. And shout out to Mark Berry because I'm working with him again. It's just fantastic. So this album, Breathe, which again, this single Breathe, was released to radio.
Starting point is 00:36:29 And it was the second most added song in Canadian Radio, the first few weeks it was released. So then, Dini Martel, who I'd become very close with, because I'd been really close with Kenny McLean, this way I'll do the Scottish national team because we'd really close friends. And Denis was close friends with Kenny. When Kenny died, Danny and I became really close friends. So him and I were going on a radio tour across the country to promote the single and the album.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And so that was just exactly the night before we were going to go when the Nairduel had got my manager's credit card. And well, it would happen sometimes before that. but that when my manager had figured out that there was $200,000 that was charged to his card. So then he just said, yeah, we're not going to work together anymore. So that was just the day before we're leaving on the radio tour.
Starting point is 00:37:21 And, yeah, so that was a really sad time. Well, that's awful that that happened to you. I feel like now's a good time to hear just another jam here. You ready? So you don't have a clue. I'll tell the listenership. Paris has no idea what I'm going to play.
Starting point is 00:37:36 But I like the movie. office space, okay? And there's a scene where there's a guy whose name is Michael Bolton. Okay. Okay? And they're like... This is from the past. Yeah, we go back here.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I would play here. I got a sound effect for that. Hold on here. Dillaloo. Dillaloo. Dilloo. Dilloo. And I'm going to play a little something because you're not Jesus, but you are...
Starting point is 00:37:59 Boy, this is a different one. Okay. Yeah. You never know what I'm going to play. I love this one, Ashley. Good. Yesterday, there was a hole in my heart, and no one could feel. I hope and pray that someday I would find some kind of miracle.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I needed a dream come true. No more sleepless nights. Then you walked into my life. I think. See, I know what you thought I was going to play. Conspiracy, right? Conspiracy's co-written by Michael Bolton, but I actually pulled Heaven Sent,
Starting point is 00:38:45 even though it sounds like it's recorded through an AM transistor radio, okay? So I apologize for the potato quality of Heaven Sent, but we wanted to hear you sing it anyways. But this, again, this is top 10 in the Cancon charts. Actually, yeah, it did Heaven Sent did really well. I think it reached number two in the Cancon charts because it did really well in the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:39:05 East Coast it was number one. one in holding. Well, the Maritimes love Paris Black. Yeah, it was really good. Everybody knows this. The Maritime. So it was really good. And we haven't mentioned, like, Casino Niagara or Fallsview Casino.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Like, you would have these pretty lengthy engagements. I mean, I'm just trying to set the table for the listenership because, yeah, you know, you're a pop idol. You're recording all this music. You're working with you. You gave me a CD right now. And the CD tells me you're not Jesus. But I can see there's a song on there called Recked. Co-written by Taylor Dane.
Starting point is 00:39:34 These are big Taylor Dane's a big, big fucking deal. Yeah, well, you know, this is again, this is Mark Berry. For years, Mark Berry was getting me these amazing songs. Like he, like, conspiracy, he sent me up with Michael Bolton on that. And he sent me up with a song called, I Don't Want to Be Your Friend, was written by Diane Warren. Legend. Like, a legend, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:54 And I got to work with these people, so that really helped me out. And then, so basically for I'm Not Jesus, Mark was like, let's just find the very best songs that are available in the, the world. And so that's why the album turned out to be so good. He really could pull. He was an old friend. We're older friends now. And then what happened is Deney Martel and I got together at the end of this recording. And then after Kenny had died and stuff and we started to write our songs towards us. And that was they're very different, like sexy girl and addicted. And so very different than the rest of the album.
Starting point is 00:40:36 And, oh, I'm my Jesus, which was actually Tini's song. So it just seemed to me, like, finishing this project up was so difficult. There was literally madness. Like, this guy, Giuseppe Bramante, nice enough guy, the manager from Milan, but he used to force me to be on this screen the whole time, 24-7. I was in a big screen. He also managed Hilton, what's her name, the... Paris Hilton?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Paris Hilton. You have the same name and you couldn't remember it. Yeah, yeah, that's why. Do people ever call you Paris Hilton? They slip? Well, there's a funny thing. There's a, anyway, I'll get on to that.
Starting point is 00:41:16 There's a funny thing. Or Paris Jackson, right? There was a funny thing where, I just, we'll just go off topic for a second. Yeah, we do that. Where Frank Crusoe was going to do this scene in a film where, you know, these people do this contest and says, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:33 when night in a hot tub with a singer model Paris and they're thinking it's going to be Paris Hilton but it ends up being me and all these guys really disappointed so that was that was what he was going to write in the film so yeah also Lindsay Lowen and Ron Moss and Terrance Trent Darby were his clients and he had everybody on screens the whole time
Starting point is 00:41:56 in his Milan beautiful beautiful Malang kind of castle. But it was crazy. I mean, there was, you know, he was chasing people around with, with axes and stuff. It was really something. Whoa, like the shining.
Starting point is 00:42:15 It was something, but I mean, he was. Here's Johnny. But we became good friends, though. We were really good friends. But again, it was, you know, it was all kind of hard. And then some other incidents happened, which I don't necessarily want to get into it. within the real time.
Starting point is 00:42:33 So De Nia and I felt like, you know, because he was now, you know, co-piloting this with me to the end. And we felt like this is really hard. And that's why I said, you know, your song, I'm not Jesus. We'll put the album, what that is the album in the name because, you know, this is really tough because he'll keep getting knocked down and keep having to get back up. But then it finally came out. And then this other thing happened with the, uh, this credit card situation.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Right. And so from being booked for giant shows all over the world, I was now in Toronto clubs, you know, and in the surrounding the GTA area. But was that hard for your ego? It wasn't hard for my ego. It was hard for my just finances. Your bank account. Yeah, it was hard for my finances. But I played with wonderful people.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Like, you know, a lot of people in this time, gosh, my mind. Too wonderful to remember. No, no, no, no, no, like Rob Laid, Dan Todd, Sasha, Two Cash, of course, Deney, you know, Denis first and foremost, but everybody, you know, like, there was a lot of really fantastic musicians and a lot of Mark McPherson and Steve McPherson and a lot of really great people. And, yeah, it was a tough hoe.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Well, listen, that's a whole... Tough go. A tough go. A tough go. A tough go. Tough go. Tough haul. Yeah, tough haul.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yeah, tough all around. So one quick fun fact about Mark Berry, if people don't know the name, is that Mark Barry worked with Madonna and Drake, a couple of, you know... And Billy Idol. And Billie and Paul McCartney and David Bowie. And, uh... So how do you end up as Billy Idol? Like, you become Billy Idol, right?
Starting point is 00:44:24 What happened was for modeling gigs, I had to cut my hair. And it was really pissing me out that everywhere I went, people say they were thinking I was Billy Idol. And, you know, I had a little bit of an ego, I'd say at the time, maybe a little bit where I thought, well, I've done a lot of things myself, don't think I'm Billy Idol. And then Kenny McLean said, just do a couple Billy Idol song in your set. And the first time I did it was at the Indian Motor.
Starting point is 00:44:54 cycle club in his 80s indulgent indulgence shows that he's putting on and the place went crazy so then i fully embraced it and um started getting booked around the world and because i could do the impersonations of him talking as well and the resemblance was quite startling um and i could you know sing just like him so it that went really well then what got me out of it was i was playing doing him uh for the uh i guess the las Vegas night's hockey game with the Los Angeles team. Kings.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Kings, yeah. So this was December 17th, 2007, I think, or 2005? I don't think there was a Vegas team back. Well, they did it.
Starting point is 00:45:38 They were like a double A or... Oh, they weren't in NHLTX. The golden, yeah, they would play them at the, they would play them at the Orleans Coliseum one week before Christmas every year. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:50 So this year they wanted to book Billy Idol, was playing down the street, what to say in the midnight hour, you know, because it was when it was... She wants more, more, more.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Right. So, um, he was busy in Vegas at, uh, Mandalay Bay. And so they booked me to play there. And that was great.
Starting point is 00:46:12 So I was walking to my gig, dressed like Billy Idol. Yeah. And he drives by me and starts laughing at me. He was like, you know, he thought it was like really funny. And I don't know to this day what he,
Starting point is 00:46:24 thinking about it, but then I thought, you know what, I'm going to do my own stuff. So that was pretty much my last Billy Idol gig, and then I started working, no, there was more, there was more, but I started working hard around that point of, you know, resurging my own thing. And, but I learned a lot from doing Billy Idol. I'd learned, you know, that rock and roll was a lot more fun than pop and roll. So, uh, absolutely. Yeah. So then I just sort of, you know, embraced my sort of inner beast rather than being really goody two shoes all the time. And, you know, when you think of rock and roll, you got to think about the CBGB's punk movement. You got to think about the Ramones.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yes, well, this is just a double-prong situation. So, yeah, with the Ramones, I was very fortunate to do the, to do four cords in a gun, just to finish it off and do a few songs. And they actually asked me to continue on tour with them. But I didn't for various reasons. But they did ask me to keep going with them. And it was really a lot of fun. And it's interesting because I sort of married into punk royalty
Starting point is 00:47:39 and that my wife was a really big figure in the whole punk scene. You know, if you go through all these punk things, she shows up all the time in books. And her fiancé was Steve Lecky from The Wild Tones. You want me to blow you? This is where it's going to get interesting. Okay. So off the top of this chat, I told you about Kiri Pappets.
Starting point is 00:48:03 And how he made the movie of David Bronstein. And I had David Bronstein on to promote the movie. And I want to talk to him about dial a date. And you came up because of what was the name of your show again? Date line? Dateline, yeah. I feel like there's another date line, but that's okay. There was another.
Starting point is 00:48:18 So Steve Lecky, who also knows. known as Nazi dog. Oh. Who just passed away. Okay. He passed away. He was in a band with a guy Chris Hate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:30 Chris Hate's real name is Pappets. He's the father of Kiri Pappets. Wow. And things just, just, whoa. There's a line blow right there, vile tones, man. So wait, who's your wife again? How does your wife tie to the punk? Viva Svet Nova.
Starting point is 00:48:44 She just was a very, you know, she was sort of, I guess, rare in the punk scene. like a really beautiful woman in the punk scene, wasn't really the way things went. So she got... Move over, Biff naked. Yeah, so she got... Sorry about that, Biff naked, yeah. So she became sort of well-known.
Starting point is 00:49:05 And we met, and then, you know, I was more from a pop background, although I was been introduced to the more punk aspects doing Billy Idol and I was more rock already. That was a punk band. That was a great punk band. That was a great punk band. So, yeah, so our musical tastes in our house are very different.
Starting point is 00:49:25 But they coalesce. I mean, with something like the Beatles, nobody can go wrong there. You know? We can all meet at the Beatles. We can all meet and shake hands and be friends with the Beatles. I played Beatles yesterday on the show because we had a calling Crips from Blue Rodeo kicking out the jams playing his 10 favorite songs of all time. And he kicked out Long and Winding Road by the Beatles.
Starting point is 00:49:45 That's a beautiful song. So you're, okay, four chords and a gun, though. You performed that, was that on Broadway? No, we performed it in the, it was a Broadway production, but we performed it in Toronto. And they asked me to come to Broadway and Chicago with them. But, so various things helped me back. But, yeah, that was great to be asked.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And it was great to visit, you know, the Ramon's material. And again, I loved the feel of the whole punk thing because it was just so, you know, just this cathartic, you know. Yeah. It just, you know, it's authentic. Yeah, it is authentic. But then I kind of agree with what Keith Richards said about it was that it was theater. It was really theatrical.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And I really enjoyed the, you know, the theatrical process of it. And the fact that you're playing this character and you're giving license to really behave as badly as you can behave. So I thought those were interesting. And that's what I really enjoyed doing the Billy Idol thing for a few years was just the license to do exactly what you thought. Like when I was doing the pop idol stuff,
Starting point is 00:51:00 it was where you can't ride a motorcycle. You can't date any fans. You can't do this and you can't do that. And I was certainly a rule keeper. You know, I just was very happy to have that situation. And let's be honest, Paris. There's nothing more punk than this. Thanks for the pen.
Starting point is 00:51:25 Better get ready. Get ready because here I come tonight. Honestly, at first I thought this was the Ramon. Hey, I need to take a moment to just give you a, I already gave you some fresh craft beer from Great Lakes Brewery, and I've got in my freezer upstairs a large lasagna from a frozen lasagna from Palma Pasta. You're going to love it, man.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Can I take this home? Yeah. Oh, yeah, no, that's yours. There's no, uh, fantastic. No smoking mirrors here, man. I also have, bo,
Starting point is 00:51:55 ooh, I get fear, free beer. Oh, it's like playing in the, look, in there. I don't want you to get any ideas. I know you've got, uh,
Starting point is 00:52:03 it's hard to say, I can't even believe I'm going to say these words, but I know you got terminal cancer, but, uh, it sucks. It sucks. It sucks. Ridley,
Starting point is 00:52:09 Ridley funeral home hopes they don't see you for several decades, okay? I hope so. They have a measuring tape for you, Paris. That's from Ridley Funeral Home. I produced their podcast, likes undertaking. Speaking of great podcasts. Yeah, we won't dwell on the funeral home, considering the circumstances.
Starting point is 00:52:26 I'm a sensitive man. No, it's okay. It's okay. You know, I have actually been reaching out to various people with terminal illnesses, and one of them is a lady in Ohio, and her and her husband have a funeral home down there. she's dealing with terminal stuff herself. So I mean, I think that really makes it all the heavier.
Starting point is 00:52:46 But on the other hand, she would have dealt with death the whole time. And also, she's going to get a hell of a discount, right? Don't forget that. Well, yeah, but she won't be able to enjoy it. That's true. You don't get to attend your own funeral. We should all have living funerals before we die. I feel like I am.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Well, that's what this is, actually. No, I feel like with these events that have been going on, I might have been much worse off than I am now. Because all the love from people that go to these, that were going to these various events to help me, like people that showed up at shows, that were at shows in 1991 in Vancouver were coming to events in Toronto. I just felt so loved.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And I do feel so loved by fans and everything. So like it really helps things that a lot. I'm glad to hear it. Listen, glad to hear it. So I'm going to just thank two more people. I'm going to thank N. Nick Aienis, because I also produce his podcast, Building Toronto Skyline, and we have a show we do together called Mike and Nick. Always fun to mix it up with Nick.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And I have a piece of advice, a tip for the listenership. If you have old electronics, old devices, old, I don't know, you have an old phone, an old blackberry, okay? You got it in a drawer, you got it in a closet. You don't throw that in the garbage because those chemicals will end up in our landfill. Go to Recycle My Electronics.C.A. Again, that's Recyclemyelectronics.com. Stick in your postal code and find out where you can drop it off to be properly recycled. You got it, Paris?
Starting point is 00:54:20 I got it. Okay. Last gift. I just remembered. It's almost May. Tomorrow's May. And that means we're almost at the home opener for the Toronto Maple Leafs baseball team at Christy Pits. They signed a guy named Yassiel. Yassiel. I got to pronounce his name.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yassiel Pueig, very controversial signing. He's got a lot of baggage, but who amongst us doesn't have baggage, right, Paris? Yeah, absolutely. Christy Pitts, no ticket required. Come on out and watch a Leafs game. The history of Toronto Maple Leafs Baseball, that's all yours. Paris Black. You're going to become an expert.
Starting point is 00:55:01 It's beautiful, thank you. Oh, look at this. I was hiding in the freezer. Yeah, it's in the freezer. That's the box. but I got some lasagna for you in the freezer. Don't worry. I'm taking care of you.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Viva and I really love, we really love pizza. We really love lasagna. Anything that we shouldn't be eating, we just love it. We should be eating. Firstly, I'm like just talking to you and learning about you, fascinating. But I'm going to ask you some true or false questions because there's some stuff on the internet. And I can't imagine this is true, but it may be true.
Starting point is 00:55:33 You know if it's true or not. Were you awarded top... figure model by Louvre's biggest international art show. Did that happen? Yes, it did happen, yes. Very grateful that happened. That's amazing. That was just a lucky break.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Okay, Mona Lisa got a vote, I'm sure. For that one, okay? Okay, did you work for labels such as Armani, Versace, and Gas? Yes, that is true. That is true. Those are major labels. I was very fortunate. Okay, and you were also a top fitness and calendar model.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, it was very fortunate again. All right, this one I don't believe is true. I don't believe it, but we're going to ask Paris Black anyways. Were you voted number one, were you voted number one on lists of sexiest men? I don't even know if that means that you were, some list of sexiest men, you were voted number one. I've heard of these things I don't really know for sure. I mean, I know that somebody thought that to put this list together, you know, but, you know, I certainly don't think of myself that way. Okay. Did you star in the film
Starting point is 00:56:41 Club Utopia? I didn't star in it. I was in it. Okay, you had a role in Club Utopia directed by Frank Caruso. Yes. Wonderful director. He's got a new film coming out with his wife, Angela Johnson, and Eric Roberts. Eric Roberts. Eric Roberts. King of Greenwich Village. Yeah, he was fantastic. He's great. He's in the video for Mr. Brightside, by the killers.
Starting point is 00:57:08 I did not know that. Which is like essentially the millennial national anthem. Like you find a millennial and you start singing Mr. Brightside. You're in, man. That's the... We've got to remember that. Yeah, he might need that. We've got to somehow be cool.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Keep myself relevant. I can't believe it. So did you ever consider becoming the... I'm surprised you were going to be a boxer. Like, did you ever go back to boxing or you left it when you went to New York City and became a model? I pretty much left it. As soon as, like, I guess the thing was... was that I liked the attention and, you know, and my stepdad really being proud of me with
Starting point is 00:57:47 boxing. But then when it was young girls screaming for me instead of a bunch of guys, I, you know, I was a young man, and that was really exciting. So then I thought I don't want to get punched in the head anymore. And never, never revisited that. There was a brief period. There was a brief period where there was a guy at Youngstreet. I used to live just at 914 Youngstreet at the time at a condo there. There was this guy named Florida Jack. And he had something with Interbox and WBC. And he, you know, he had the super middleweight champion of the world training there.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And I went and sort of did a little bit with him. And I thought, well, you know, maybe I'm not too bad. But then this guy came in, he just got out of prison. He came into the box. boxing club and you know he did not look like he had anything going on said he was screaming that you know he had so much testosterone that all the hair in his head had fallen off and everything so jack said to go in there and show him something and it turns out this guy rocked me all over the place and i thought if this guy just an average guy coming out of prison can rock me all over the place i'm not
Starting point is 00:58:54 going to have any chance so that was the last guy's name was mike tyson no it wasn't but then again we cool full circle where my wife interviewed mike tyson while he was in prison. So, you know, there's all these interconnected things. Love it. I love it. Is it true or false that you hosted for global television in the Daytime Emmy Awards? Yes, true.
Starting point is 00:59:18 So you did some hosting. Like, it's just you're a handsome guy who can string a sentence together. You just got hosting gigs. I did. I did, yeah. Also weddings and honeymoons. Sure, Bar Mitzvahs? No. You know, I did. I was a human statue at Bar Mitzvil one time. You said that a couple times. Is this just like, oh, look at me, I got abs, I got abs, I got abs, and I'm just going to stay still so people can admire my body. Well, what it was, it was kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:59:44 This guy named a Tenem Oton, Nigerian guy. I had a business in Toronto called Statues Comes Alive, Statues to Life. And he paid you $300 an hour to do this human statue stuff. But are you painted silver or something? Sometimes, sometimes not. Interesting. But then, you know, you just wear a little sort of waist thing. And, yeah, so it was really good.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And I got to do a lot of casinos and travel around again. I guess in my life I'd been accustomed to traveling. Sure. And being, you know, being on the road doing something. So it all felt the same. But eventually, you know, I realized, I think it was Kenny that thought that my television show there, he was watching up here, he thought it looked really sleazy. And I think, oh, maybe it does.
Starting point is 01:00:34 And then I sort of, I think we're directed in life by what our close friends think. Like, for every song that I'm putting doing for my new album, my wife has to love it or else I just hate the song, even though I could have loved the song in a moment before. I'm writing for my wife, only for my wife. So that's, you know, that's the way that goes. And so Kenny was my best buddy. And when he said that the whole show and the beach and everything looked really sleazy,
Starting point is 01:01:00 I was going, well, maybe I don't want to do it anymore. Oh, if you didn't do it, you might not be here right now. Well, no, thanks. Yeah, that's true. No, I did do it. Yeah, and I was doing it for a long time. For 10 years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:10 But then I started to, you know, like, it wasn't, like, it wasn't, okay, I'll tell you a great story. So, I don't know if I should say this story on the air. So I don't think I will say. Too late now, you guys. I think you got to do it. All right. Well, all right. Or I'll take back that lasagna.
Starting point is 01:01:22 All right. I got to do it for the lasagna. So what had happened was, I was working in a gray area in the States. I wouldn't say it was completely illegal because the money was coming from Canada, but I was doing a lot of modeling down there as well. And somebody that I was seeing, she, after 10 years,
Starting point is 01:01:40 I didn't tell very few people, but she told me that, she told on me that I was there. So this guy was an MMA fighter guy. I can't remember his name now. I had given him my alternate IDs and everything for just such an emergency as fog or leghorn would say and so I was I was you know
Starting point is 01:02:01 trading around the beach and he said you know the police are at your hotel and so I just took the ID lift everything my hotel I lived there 10 years who had like all this editing equipment and all this you know great clothes and all these things and furniture that I'd put there and I just went to the airport
Starting point is 01:02:21 with a little little suitcase I got on the beach and I filled it with beach wear and came to Canada and that was sort of out of the whole thing which was fine because I went from there to doing more of the statue stuff that was really, I really did a lot of it
Starting point is 01:02:39 and then then I was I sort of resurrected the Billy Idol thing again up here for a while and actually I was still doing it I was doing it right at that time and then you know a guy that was playing
Starting point is 01:02:54 in the Billy Idol band, a guy named Marcus Hahn, and he was Mark Barry's assistant. So I went to the office and, you know, we can give a shout out to August night as well, a great Toronto artist who was actually the bass player in that band
Starting point is 01:03:14 and pulled it all together with Steven Snitman. Anyway, so he brought me down to the office of Marksillist to another record, and I said, okay. And we decided to really, you know, to really work hard on it. And that kind of brings us to dough. That's my whole life there. Is it true that you start, not start,
Starting point is 01:03:34 you had roles in soap operas? Yes. Yes. Okay. Would you consider doing any more acting? You know, this cancer's beating the hell of a lot of me. I have very little chance to do much. My energy is limited.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm hoping to do to continue doing figure modeling and I don't look the way I want to look. If I got, if I got better, I would, you know, consider all that stuff again, but it's just beaten the hell out of me. It was like 10 years than the last year. Well, maybe we'll close with that because like hearing you talk, you've had quite a wild life. Like, you know, from, you go to New York City, young man, and then, you know, you have these aspirations, you get the modeling gig. There's television, there's music, there's statue modeling here in soap operas. You gain awards for sexiest man. Like, there's a lot going on here, right?
Starting point is 01:04:32 But like, let's talk about now. Well, okay, yeah. So now, yesterday, did I mention this already about the, the just random acts of kindness thing? Well, mention it again. So yesterday, I had gone to see a doctor and, afterwards my ride was like two hours before they picked me up and the the doors to the building didn't open unless you push this button
Starting point is 01:05:01 so everybody was stuck there so then I was letting people in the door and I was noticing people were really happy with that and I had two hours to kill so I just went around and did something really weird really strange I just started complimenting people's babies and saying how it's a beautiful baby you're a beautiful couple. Thanks for bringing more beautiful people into this world. And, you know, just was really doing random banks with kindness. And people responded so well to that.
Starting point is 01:05:29 And I don't know. I think this whole thing of having a very finite time left, you really appreciate the small things. You appreciate every kind gesture somebody does, not even for you, just for everybody else. And the sun on your face, the wind in your hair, is really, really amazing because you know there's going to be a time
Starting point is 01:05:51 when even if you can see the sun, you can see the leaves, you won't be able to feel the wind. So these are things, you know, you just, like I heartily like to spend time with anybody except my wife and my close friends, because that's the most important thing in my life. Holding my wife's hand at night is the most important thing.
Starting point is 01:06:13 That's beautiful, man. Tear up over here, Paris. Come on. We were going to talk rock and roll, pop idol, and here I am tearing up over here. I did want to ask you about victory for animals and some animal-related charities. I saw that you were focused on.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Are you still focused on these animal-related charities? Well, yeah, not as much as I was because there's so, you know, I guess I'm focusing on my own health now, but we have a bunch of animals at home. We have two rescue starlings that were. We found that one of them was in the dirt, and we kind of revised it and revitalized it, and they speak, both of them speak English. We had five rescue cats, now down to three rescue cats.
Starting point is 01:06:58 They're all beautiful cats, and, you know, I absolutely love animals. I think most people do. They're just such honest, beautiful beings. Yeah, if I, again, I don't mean if, but you do everything you can do. And if I were to somehow beat this, if I were somehow to get, you know, get it back together, I know what's important now. Whereas before I didn't really know what was important. And now I do.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And it's love and it's friendship and it's your God. And it's like Paul McCartney said, And in the end, the love you take. Take is equal to the love you make. Paris Black, I'm rooting for you, man. If anyone can live another 50 years with this terrible cancer, it's you, man. I'm honestly, I'm rooting for you. I didn't know what to expect.
Starting point is 01:08:05 You know, this guy who's on my TV, I would read about him. But, man, I dug you right away. And just rude and hard. I hope that you're here for another 100 years, man. Thank you, brother. Thanks, man. You're awesome, brother. You're awesome. I didn't know what to expect either.
Starting point is 01:08:22 You're an absolutely fabulous, fabulous host. You do your research. You're just great on camera. Great, great, great on the mic. And I really hope that you get the recognition worldwide you deserve. Just fantastic. And you got a gracious humor. It's all good.
Starting point is 01:08:45 That's my new ringtone here. Paris Black, you're now an FOTM. That means friend of... Toronto Mike. So again, thanks for making the trek. We're going to take a photo by Toronto Tree. I'm going to get you that lasagna. Love it. Love it so much. And that.
Starting point is 01:09:02 And that brings us to the end of our 1,8902 show, 1892 with Paris Black. Go to TorontoMike.com for all your Toronto Mike needs. And Paris is going to blow your mind. I'm playing the elm. I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm performing at the Elma combo on May 21st.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I'm headlining. It's a one-man show I've crafted. I got a big surprise in store. I have talented musician Rob Pruse on stage with me. This is happening May 21, and anyone can get tickets to see this by going to TorontoMike.com and clicking Elmo gig at the top by a couple of tickets.
Starting point is 01:09:43 That's happening May 21st. I will promote this like Mad on my Facebook. Wow. And everything else. whatever else I can do. But I know that's not really big. May 21st, I'm also... May 21.
Starting point is 01:09:57 I'm seeing my oncologist that day, so I don't know how... Well, that's... If I get good news, I'm there for sure. If I get good news, I'm there for sure. Put you on the mic to announce it to everybody. Absolutely. If I... If I... Yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Much love to all who made this possible. Again, that is Great Lakes Brewery. That was a good logger, eh? They make a nice loggar. I absolutely loved it. It's really premium. as they do point out. Palmapasta, you're going to love your lasagna.
Starting point is 01:10:28 Nicaynees. Nick Aini's would love you, Paris Black. I wish he was here. I'd introduce you. Recycle MyElectronics.ca and Ridley Funeral Home. Yes, baby. See you all Monday. The return of Larry Fedorick.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Don't you dare miss it.

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