Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Personally Profound Jams #TOAST46: Toronto Mike'd Podcast Episode 1772
Episode Date: October 1, 2025In this 1772nd episode of Toronto Mike'd, and 46th episode of Toast, Mike is joined by Rob Preuss, Bob Willette as they kick out personally profound jams. Toronto Mike'd is proudly brought to you by... Great Lakes Brewery, Palma Pasta, Ridley Funeral Home, Nick Ainis, Blue Sky Agency and RecycleMyElectronics.ca. If you would like to support the show, we do have partner opportunities available. Please email Toronto Mike at mike@torontomike.com.
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                                        I'm going to think about it so.
                                         
                                        F-O-T-M's, do you know what time it is?
                                         
                                        It's toast time.
                                         
                                        Toast, featuring Stu Stone, Dan Gordon, and Toronto, Mike.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's toast.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, just toast.
                                         
                                        Is that offensive that I kept their names in?
                                         
                                        Not anymore.
                                         
    
                                        It's a bit now.
                                         
                                        It's a little late.
                                         
                                        You've probably done more toast than they did.
                                         
                                        I think so now.
                                         
                                        I think we established that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But they did pandemic Friday for 76 weeks.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
    
                                        So we got a little bit of work to do.
                                         
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                                        Today, returning for the 46th episode of toast, it's Bob Willett.
                                         
                                        46 slices of deliciousness.
                                         
                                        and Rob Peru
                                         
                                        Okay, I have a song
                                         
                                        I've been waiting to play this.
                                         
    
                                        Let's listen to this.
                                         
                                        Ready?
                                         
                                        Go.
                                         
                                        Come on Bimbo, please.
                                         
                                        Well done, and out comes Bimbo,
                                         
                                        and here's Bimbo with...
                                         
                                        Introducing Bimbo, the birthday clown,
                                         
                                        and a son of happy.
                                         
    
                                        Here we go.
                                         
                                        Bimbo, Bimbo, and the Bucon.
                                         
                                        Bimbo, Bimbo, thank you. It's been a week. It's been, Yit's been. It's been. It's been. It's been. It's been. How does it feel being on the birthday? How does it feel being on the north side of 60?
                                         
                                        Not very far north
                                         
                                        Just barely
                                         
                                        Just past that mark
                                         
                                        She doesn't say it was far north
                                         
                                        I know it's true
                                         
    
                                        It's fine now
                                         
                                        It was a little weird
                                         
                                        You were not happy with it
                                         
                                        You were talking
                                         
                                        We talked a little bit
                                         
                                        Just briefly off the air last time
                                         
                                        And the week leading up to it
                                         
                                        Actually got a little
                                         
    
                                        I was thinking about
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        It started to feel like a weird pressure thing
                                         
                                        And I'm not sure why
                                         
                                        And then I realized
                                         
                                        Oh it's fine
                                         
                                        What are you gonna do
                                         
                                        And I think I felt that at every decade
                                         
    
                                        Like it's when you
                                         
                                        The decade ones get you
                                         
                                        The decades get
                                         
                                        And I got that when I was 20
                                         
                                        When I was 19
                                         
                                        I was like oh my God
                                         
                                        I'm turning
                                         
                                        20. I'm still in this band. What am I going to do?
                                         
    
                                        So that was a long time ago.
                                         
                                        Is that true? Yes, it's true. That's, that was my midlife crisis, which is why I left the
                                         
                                        band like three months later. Yeah. So crazy. So what, where do you think that pressure was
                                         
                                        coming from? Just internalized. Is it your German parents? No. Just the idea of like, like
                                         
                                        reassessing where you are in your life and what you're doing. But at 20 and you're in a successful
                                         
                                        band, you're getting all your clothes from stitches. Well, no, but, but honestly, I think it was
                                         
                                        thrifties. Sorry. I made the same mistake.
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
    
                                        Yes, you did.
                                         
                                        I always think his stitches too.
                                         
                                        But at 20, I think that I had started,
                                         
                                        I was playing in a different,
                                         
                                        in another band,
                                         
                                        I was playing in a band called Perfect World,
                                         
                                        along with the Spoons.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        I had just done a recording session with Nile Rogers in New York.
                                         
                                        I played on the Sheen-Easton record.
                                         
                                        I didn't know that.
                                         
                                        I didn't know that.
                                         
                                        Well, yeah.
                                         
                                        He might know what I'm knowing that.
                                         
                                        Maybe you gave that gem to Toronto Legends.
                                         
                                        No, I did not.
                                         
    
                                        But I, but, and then with the Spoons,
                                         
                                        there was like,
                                         
                                        we were having management troubles and record companies.
                                         
                                        we weren't releasing records and I was like what's going on like
                                         
                                        and I just started sort of reassessing it all
                                         
                                        and it just I thought well I'm 20 god
                                         
                                        and now that's followed you like do you have like
                                         
                                        similar memories around 30
                                         
    
                                        and 40 and like did you get divorces around those years
                                         
                                        and stuff too every decade gets a divorce
                                         
                                        don't tell you be careful I believe your wife is on the line
                                         
                                        chatcha might be on the line
                                         
                                        no but but I think that there is a certain
                                         
                                        acknowledgement of life moving on as you get older
                                         
                                        but 60 feels fucking heavy
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I'm coming up on 50 in January, so I feel you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I felt it a little bit turning 50.
                                         
                                        I felt it a little bit turning 40.
                                         
                                        30, sure.
                                         
                                        But at the same time, you realize, oh, yeah, but this is like when people are coming
                                         
                                        into their prime of their lives as well.
                                         
                                        60, you're like, you're tipping over.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        You're not really, but seriously, 60's closer to 80 than it is 20, which is weird.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So.
                                         
                                        No, I get it.
                                         
                                        I think it's a lot, like, I think 50's a lot, like 40.
                                         
                                        Like, it's just sort of a bleeds in.
                                         
                                        It is now, yeah.
                                         
                                        You tell yourself that.
                                         
    
                                        I live in the present.
                                         
                                        But 60, I think you know the next one.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        And I think 70 is like, oh, my, my back and what is, what's the Moberg line from an adult now?
                                         
                                        My sight and hearing is fading.
                                         
                                        Well, actually, I'm at that point now where my, like the next generation above me,
                                         
                                        like if my dad was around or, you know, some like aunts and uncles and stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It's, it's, I'm calling it hip and knee replacement era.
                                         
                                        Everybody's getting their hips and their knees done.
                                         
                                        And it seems like, and they seem to kind of,
                                         
                                        they have the people, like, Uncle Phil, who you know,
                                         
                                        and Uncle Phil's a big listener.
                                         
                                        I love Uncle Phil.
                                         
                                        Uncle Phil had a bunch of stuff done.
                                         
                                        And it's like, he's an athletic guy.
                                         
    
                                        He played hockey five days a week.
                                         
                                        So what's up with that?
                                         
                                        Like, I saw Brian Gerstein,
                                         
                                        Property and the Sixth.com.
                                         
                                        He got like both hips replaced.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        But he's, isn't he like a tennis playing fit guy?
                                         
                                        But that's my point.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's the people who you don't even think.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like wear and tear over.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And he's not in his, he's not in his 16.
                                         
                                        There's no guarantees for any.
                                         
                                        anybody. No, no matter how fit you are, no matter how old you are, right? That's the weird thing
                                         
                                        when something's going to come out of the blue. So every year you get is a gift. Well, speaking of a
                                         
    
                                        gift, I have a small gift for you for your birthday. Um, wow. Speaking of 50s, it's German favorites
                                         
                                        of the early 50s. Come on. Yes. Oh my God. I love this. It's, uh, I love that. It's a, I was,
                                         
                                        uh, you know, I was diving. I was, you know, I was doing, you know, I was doing some diving. And I,
                                         
                                        and I saw that and I thought, you know what, I got to get that for Mr. Pruse. It's got
                                         
                                        Imhafen van Landano.
                                         
                                        Yeah, which of course is so famous for, no, I don't have David Hasselhoff on there?
                                         
                                        It does not.
                                         
                                        It does not.
                                         
    
                                        It does not.
                                         
                                        It's pre-dates, but it's, uh, it's, uh, I had a, I had a good bunny mine.
                                         
                                        He's got one of those really good ultrasonic cleaners and stuff.
                                         
                                        And no way.
                                         
                                        I had to clean and everything.
                                         
                                        It still is, it's a little rough run the edges.
                                         
                                        Ah, that's the way I like it.
                                         
                                        It's got some crackle and pop to it.
                                         
    
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        I love a snap crackling part.
                                         
                                        Amazing.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        And Bob, I have a gift for you as well.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        No, you.
                                         
                                        It is a new German beer.
                                         
    
                                        So what is that beer from Great Lakes I put in front of you?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's Fest beer.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Fest beer.
                                         
                                        I want a Fest beer, too.
                                         
                                        Do you want a Fest beer?
                                         
                                        I only got one.
                                         
    
                                        You only got one.
                                         
                                        You should have it.
                                         
                                        No, no, you can have it.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I think of you, Bob, is the beer officianto.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm the, but I don't like a hoppy beer.
                                         
                                        I like loggers and Pilsners, and this is a logger.
                                         
                                        I like a hoppy beer.
                                         
    
                                        Now, see, that's why you have the sunny side, which is a...
                                         
                                        Well, it's not sunny side.
                                         
                                        It's a summer.
                                         
                                        The summer ale.
                                         
                                        Oh, it's the summer ale.
                                         
                                        I wanted to hear, I just wanted Bob's review of it
                                         
                                        because Monica's a big fan.
                                         
                                        It's got like a lemon ginger thing going there.
                                         
    
                                        This thing does?
                                         
                                        No, the summer ale.
                                         
                                        Well, which one am I drinking?
                                         
                                        Well, this summer ale was for Rob.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        These two, the logger.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you know what?
                                         
                                        I wasn't even sure what the German one was.
                                         
    
                                        By the way, yeah, this is Fest beer.
                                         
                                        It's a logger.
                                         
                                        By the way, I had a last time you gave me some parting gifts and I had a
                                         
                                        little barbecue with the in-laws and stuff
                                         
                                        and my brother-in-laws were going on about how much they liked the logger.
                                         
                                        They'd had had great lakes before, but I don't think they had the sunny side and
                                         
                                        the Canuck Pale Ale, but they were big
                                         
                                        fans of the Great Lakes Lager. I was at a barbecue
                                         
    
                                        last weekend, and they had the premium
                                         
                                        lager from Great Lakes there, and
                                         
                                        I was having like this sausage and this
                                         
                                        and this leg and this logger, and it actually
                                         
                                        paired so perfectly. Absolutely. This is amazing.
                                         
                                        Yeah. You know, my
                                         
                                        local food basics by my sister's place in Burlington
                                         
                                        because they're all selling beers now, they've got
                                         
    
                                        a couple of Great Lakes. They only care, so
                                         
                                        far every time I've been, they only carry the logger
                                         
                                        and Octopus wants to fight. That's a big one too.
                                         
                                        Which is cool. Yeah, that's another one, another poppy one.
                                         
                                        I'll try this right now. Is it, are you guys going to
                                         
                                        Are you going to have a breakfast?
                                         
                                        I'm still finishing my coffee.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
    
                                        Well,
                                         
                                        cheers.
                                         
                                        Happy birthday.
                                         
                                        Cheers.
                                         
                                        Cheers.
                                         
                                        That's a good one.
                                         
                                        So did you have a good happy 60th birthday.
                                         
                                        I did have a happy birthday.
                                         
    
                                        I played one,
                                         
                                        one Mamma Mia matinee,
                                         
                                        which was great,
                                         
                                        because we only have one on Wednesdays.
                                         
                                        Oh,
                                         
                                        I need to thank you on here too.
                                         
                                        So what do you think of the summer ale?
                                         
                                        Not that people can buy it anymore.
                                         
    
                                        It's lemony.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        it's lemony and ginger.
                                         
                                        Some citrus shit going on.
                                         
                                        Well,
                                         
                                        ginger and lemon for sure.
                                         
                                        Wheat ale with lemon.
                                         
                                        It's totally.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, it's a wheat.
                                         
                                        I can taste the lemon and ginger.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        It's nice, actually.
                                         
                                        See, Monica's a big fan.
                                         
                                        I like it too.
                                         
                                        Summer ale.
                                         
                                        He'll be back for next summer.
                                         
    
                                        Is it German beer?
                                         
                                        Excellent.
                                         
                                        Fesbia.
                                         
                                        It's very nice.
                                         
                                        It's really nice.
                                         
                                        This Fesbier, I would buy this for sure.
                                         
                                        Because you know what?
                                         
                                        It's got more body than the premium lager, which I like.
                                         
    
                                        This is a good fall beer.
                                         
                                        This is like, this is a good October beer.
                                         
                                        I love October fest beers.
                                         
                                        That's exactly why they have it right now.
                                         
                                        This is perfect for that.
                                         
                                        And it would go well with a nice big pretzel and a schnitzel.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
    
                                        Rob, so you had a happy 60.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Then we went and saw a Broadway musical on Wednesday night.
                                         
                                        It was called Operation.
                                         
                                        Mintz Meat. It's a new British
                                         
                                        musical that's sort of taken the world
                                         
                                        by Stormer. It was a big hit in London.
                                         
                                        Came to New York in the spring and it
                                         
    
                                        one of the actors won a Tony Award. Wow.
                                         
                                        Like, Best Supporting Actor or featured actor?
                                         
                                        And it was really good. It was really fun based on an old
                                         
                                        Do you pay full price for those tickets or do you have some
                                         
                                        kind of a discount? Leah got the tickets for my
                                         
                                        birthday and I'm not sure, but they were really good seats.
                                         
                                        Laya, put the price in the live chat, live.
                                         
                                        She's got some people. Let me know what you pay for those.
                                         
    
                                        She's got a connection. Can you tell Rob Proust,
                                         
                                        your connection too and then tell the story of palm of pasta and kathleen robertson yes she got her lasagna
                                         
                                        um my best friend jim is her brother-in-law and we were both in jim's wedding party together
                                         
                                        35 years ago kathleen and i and a bunch of other friends marry kathleen's sister yeah her older sister
                                         
                                        her older sister tracking this yeah and so i first met kathleen you know who her best friend
                                         
                                        growing up was and still is very close to her is tom wilson's wife oh that's
                                         
                                        That's how they're so close as well.
                                         
                                        That's so funny.
                                         
    
                                        Because when I told her that I was going to get the lasagna for her, she's like,
                                         
                                        she texted me and said, yeah, Tom Wilson told me it's really good too.
                                         
                                        And Tom Wilson's brother-in-law, Andrew, a big palm of pasta fan too.
                                         
                                        So a lot of connections to Kathleen Robertson.
                                         
                                        So I saw Jim yesterday and I happened to have a lasagna in the freezer in a citrus freezer
                                         
                                        from one of our last visits.
                                         
                                        So I gave it to Jim to pass along to Kathleen.
                                         
                                        Okay, so Kathleen Robertson, because she left here to go do some reacher stuff,
                                         
    
                                        like a fitting and some stuff.
                                         
                                        So she didn't want to take her lasagna.
                                         
                                        Um, you gave her your lasagna and I have in my freezer at lasagna for both of you.
                                         
                                        Amazingly.
                                         
                                        Bob, is your freezer full of lasagna?
                                         
                                        No, no, not at all.
                                         
                                        No, no, no.
                                         
                                        So you got to remember we, uh, we, we, we depend very much on the extended family on the, uh, on my wife's side.
                                         
    
                                        Her, her dad helps a lot and he loves the lasagna.
                                         
                                        So my God, okay.
                                         
                                        We throw it, we throw it in, uh, quite, quite often.
                                         
                                        And that's big enough we, I mean, Laura's one of four and they all have, uh, most of them have
                                         
                                        kids and, uh, and wives and stuff and husbands.
                                         
                                        So when, if we.
                                         
                                        it down to a Sunday dinner with everybody. I believe
                                         
                                        it's 13 of us right now. Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        So when it's
                                         
                                        only half, we can use the
                                         
                                        full lasagna and it gets eaten up. That's amazing.
                                         
                                        All right. I got another one for you.
                                         
                                        And I also want you two to put on your
                                         
                                        calendars November 29.
                                         
                                        It is the last Saturday of
                                         
                                        November. Noon to 3 p.m.
                                         
    
                                        We're going to take over the second floor
                                         
                                        at Palma's Kitchen. I remember that
                                         
                                        last year. Mississauga. And I know,
                                         
                                        Rob, you've got a whole schedule
                                         
                                        and everything. That's already bad for me.
                                         
                                        What is, Bob, we did not see you at TMLX20 at GLB Brew Pub.
                                         
                                        What is your excuse this time?
                                         
                                        Well, right now is technically those are one of the only two days of work day a week.
                                         
    
                                        I work.
                                         
                                        So there's that.
                                         
                                        And then also it is the police.
                                         
                                        You're still working.
                                         
                                        Well, two days a week.
                                         
                                        And the Polito family Christmas, which is the Italian side of Laura's family is having theirs on Saturday, November 29th.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they'll love that.
                                         
    
                                        Italian.
                                         
                                        It is Italian.
                                         
                                        I'm sure they might love it, but I don't know if they'll love it.
                                         
                                        but I don't know if they'll love the, you know,
                                         
                                        sharing the space with the TMU universe.
                                         
                                        So anyhow, maybe.
                                         
                                        We'll see.
                                         
                                        But right now, yeah, I'm only on the weekends.
                                         
    
                                        $200 a ticket for your birthday gift.
                                         
                                        Lock it in now before prices go up.
                                         
                                        So $200.
                                         
                                        Oh, you're talking about that.
                                         
                                        So that's $400 for your wife to take.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, that's all they know down there.
                                         
                                        That's true love.
                                         
                                        But $400 to take you to this show on Broadway.
                                         
    
                                        I wonder if my wife would spend $400 on a gift for me.
                                         
                                        And it is your 60th, so I actually do kind of, you know, get it on.
                                         
                                        Yeah, nine years to figure that out.
                                         
                                        I got a kayak for my 50th.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        That's more than 400 bucks.
                                         
                                        But just, yeah, that's a lot of money, but she loves you so much.
                                         
                                        Yeah, and it was a nice surprise.
                                         
    
                                        It is a milestone birthday, so it's worth it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, because, yeah, we don't go to a lot of shows.
                                         
                                        We sort of pick and choose because it is an expenditure.
                                         
                                        And honestly, it's sort of like when you have to decide whether you're going to go see a movie
                                         
                                        in the movie theater or not.
                                         
                                        And there's things that are worth waiting for
                                         
                                        and things that are worth paying for.
                                         
                                        And when it comes to Broadway,
                                         
    
                                        it's a lot,
                                         
                                        it's,
                                         
                                        we're a lot choosier.
                                         
                                        Well,
                                         
                                        I went to,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        see,
                                         
                                        I was lucky enough to go to something at Soul Pepper here in Toronto,
                                         
    
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        King Gelgamesh,
                                         
                                        it's called.
                                         
                                        Oh yeah,
                                         
                                        I heard of that.
                                         
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        It's so good.
                                         
                                        And I was,
                                         
    
                                        I was lucky enough that I,
                                         
                                        when I was,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        introducing Chantelle Carveezeik and stars,
                                         
                                        actually,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        the stage manager there is a production person at Soul Pepper.
                                         
                                        And so she invited me to come to the premiere.
                                         
    
                                        which was very lucky because, you know, times are tough in the Willette household.
                                         
                                        So we got to go to, but there's something so special, and I'm not just saying this because
                                         
                                        you do it about live theater.
                                         
                                        Live theater is just amazing.
                                         
                                        I love seeing concerts.
                                         
                                        I really do, and I see, I'm lucky enough to see a lot of concerts, but seeing a play, I got chills
                                         
                                        when I think about this play.
                                         
                                        Yeah, really?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, my God, it was so good.
                                         
                                        It's, it's a tough sell because you're like, okay, it is this telling of the world's oldest story.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Gilgamesh, Gilgamesh, which not everybody knows.
                                         
                                        Oh, and.
                                         
                                        And then there's a bunch of Arabic jazz music as well.
                                         
                                        And they're like, what?
                                         
                                        But when you see it, you're like, holy shit, this was good.
                                         
                                        It was really good.
                                         
    
                                        That's so cool.
                                         
                                        So, Soul Pepper, go see it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so Pemper.
                                         
                                        That's amazing.
                                         
                                        But I was very lucky that, like, and again, it's more affordable.
                                         
                                        I think you can get, I think it's like 60 bucks right now to see that.
                                         
                                        And that's like, it's got a full band, two leads.
                                         
                                        It's big.
                                         
    
                                        Live theater is a great thing.
                                         
                                        It really is.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Before we have Bob, let us know the, because he chose this topic.
                                         
                                        It's a very personal topic.
                                         
                                        And we're going to get to the jams.
                                         
                                        But I do have a couple of quick things.
                                         
                                        here. One is, Bob, can you give us your thoughts on the CFL rule changes that are coming to the Canadian Football League?
                                         
    
                                        So my initial reaction was, ah, this sucks. And I still, to this day, here's what I want to know.
                                         
                                        What research did they do to prove that this is going to get more eyes on the game? What research did they do that, like, where has the complaining about the uprights being at the focus group?
                                         
                                        Was there some, yeah, exactly. Or is this just this guy coming in and, and what's the rule change?
                                         
                                        So there's a couple that they're slowly moving in.
                                         
                                        The first one is they're making the field down.
                                         
                                        They're making it more like an American field.
                                         
                                        However, not width-wise.
                                         
                                        100 yards, not 110.
                                         
    
                                        The end zones are still bigger but not as big.
                                         
                                        They're moving the upraids to the back of the end zone where the NFL ones are.
                                         
                                        They are eventually going, you cannot get a, you can't get a rouge anymore by going through the end zone with a missed field goal.
                                         
                                        Although that was kind of dumb, right?
                                         
                                        No, I don't think so.
                                         
                                        I think it was part of the game.
                                         
                                        It's rugby-based.
                                         
                                        It's very much.
                                         
    
                                        But it's like rewarding somebody for a mistake.
                                         
                                        No, but there's nothing like seeing your punter in the back of the end zone
                                         
                                        trying to catch the ball and punt it out to end the game.
                                         
                                        The CFL does that.
                                         
                                        That's amazing.
                                         
                                        I remember watching Hank Illisic in the 80s and 90s.
                                         
                                        I remember it was the end of a game and they're going to try to punt it through to win the game.
                                         
                                        And Hank Alysick is in your kicker.
                                         
    
                                        Your two kickers are in the end zone trying to catch the ball and kick it out so you don't get the one point.
                                         
                                        It's very Canadian.
                                         
                                        We have not lost.
                                         
                                        you know, I do agree with, look, it's still
                                         
                                        12 guys on the field.
                                         
                                        Everybody can motion.
                                         
                                        Like, it's still a very Canadian game.
                                         
                                        I think it's still three downs.
                                         
    
                                        I don't under, yes, it's still three downs.
                                         
                                        It's still three downs.
                                         
                                        But they've changed the game clock
                                         
                                        so that it's going to be a longer
                                         
                                        and you could kill more time.
                                         
                                        I don't understand how that's going to make the game more industry.
                                         
                                        I just want to know the thought process.
                                         
                                        And I don't understand where, like, so I don't,
                                         
    
                                        and they haven't come out with that.
                                         
                                        They haven't said that this is,
                                         
                                        all they've said,
                                         
                                        this is going to make the game more entertaining.
                                         
                                        Well, how do you know that?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Like, have you run some AI?
                                         
                                        Like, have you...
                                         
    
                                        That's weird.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so that's my only thought.
                                         
                                        At first, I was quite angry at it.
                                         
                                        And I got into a little flame war with a guy on, like, the Toronto Argonauts Facebook page.
                                         
                                        He's like, you need to get out more.
                                         
                                        I'm like, you're having an argument with a guy on a Toronto Argonaut's Facebook page.
                                         
                                        That's all that's for us.
                                         
                                        We both need to get out more.
                                         
    
                                        You're fucking idiot.
                                         
                                        So anyways, it was fine.
                                         
                                        And also, what is the point of a Toronto Argonaut's Facebook page?
                                         
                                        if not to discuss rule changes.
                                         
                                        Like sometimes, oh, like, you know,
                                         
                                        that's the whole point of this.
                                         
                                        Otherwise, what's the point of anything?
                                         
                                        No, exactly.
                                         
    
                                        And he was like, you need to get out more because I was like,
                                         
                                        I was,
                                         
                                        I was ranting about it.
                                         
                                        Because you didn't like the changes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I was like, well, okay, dude.
                                         
                                        Like, let's, I'm like, okay,
                                         
                                        go troll somebody else.
                                         
    
                                        I literally did.
                                         
                                        Like, I,
                                         
                                        yes, maybe I do need to get out more.
                                         
                                        However, look what you're doing.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        like, this is,
                                         
                                        this might be the height of nerdiness.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
    
                                        And these changes don't take effect next season, right?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No, yeah.
                                         
                                        Next season,
                                         
                                        next season,
                                         
                                        Next season, the Toronto Argonaut fans are mad enough already.
                                         
                                        They lost, like, four home games, three or four home games,
                                         
                                        and they couldn't figure out a way to make them in Ontario.
                                         
    
                                        So they're just playing away games.
                                         
                                        I think if they had have done some work.
                                         
                                        Well, because of the World Cup.
                                         
                                        Because the World Cup.
                                         
                                        So they could have had,
                                         
                                        and that's why the Mollson, the Honda Indies moved to Markham is because of the World Cup.
                                         
                                        They can't, it's, they moved that up there as well.
                                         
                                        Which I, you know what?
                                         
    
                                        Let them have it.
                                         
                                        Keep it.
                                         
                                        I don't need the indie downtown.
                                         
                                        Jesus Christ.
                                         
                                        What a pain in the ass.
                                         
                                        I'm not even sure they wanted.
                                         
                                        I think a lot of people.
                                         
                                        No, no, no, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        I think Konda, yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                        Hey, I like the way you hung up
                                         
                                        the National Slash poster over here.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        I think that was here last time.
                                         
                                        No, I gave it to him last time.
                                         
                                        Oh, maybe two times ago.
                                         
                                        I can't remember anything, but...
                                         
    
                                        You know, that film, and I composed music for that film.
                                         
                                        I'm going to have a credit whenever it finally...
                                         
                                        When does that film get a viewing?
                                         
                                        Apparently, there's a premiere at a film festival in London at the end of October.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        It's going to have that, there's like a rock dock festival that's going to have the first screening of it.
                                         
                                        And then apparently there's going to be a premiere in Toronto.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        The National Slash Rises again.
                                         
                                        Sometime in November,
                                         
                                        apparently there's going to be a screening in Toronto.
                                         
                                        And I hope I can get to the premier.
                                         
                                        Maybe you guys can come as well.
                                         
                                        That'd be funny.
                                         
                                        I'm going to see the premiere of Biff Nakeds,
                                         
                                        well, the Toronto premiere of Biff Nakeds documentary.
                                         
    
                                        Cool.
                                         
                                        She's been filming a documentary for years.
                                         
                                        She'd always update me on it.
                                         
                                        I'm like, okay.
                                         
                                        It's done.
                                         
                                        That's awesome.
                                         
                                        So I'm going to be seeing it soon here.
                                         
                                        That's cool.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, Bob, quick question for Bob.
                                         
                                        And Rob, you can chime in too.
                                         
                                        I'm always interested in your input.
                                         
                                        But I want to know Bob's thoughts
                                         
                                        on cover bands like would you go see
                                         
                                        I just saw since our last recording I saw
                                         
                                        a band called Pearl Jamming
                                         
                                        Pearl Jamming. What band were they covering? It's
                                         
    
                                        Nirvana ironically. Alice and Chains
                                         
                                        Oh cool. You know what? Pearl Jamming
                                         
                                        is probably one of the foremost
                                         
                                        Pearl Jam cover bands out there
                                         
                                        they played the I know of them
                                         
                                        because I play
                                         
                                        that play they played the like the
                                         
                                        Rib Fest at Woodbine Park
                                         
    
                                        Yeah I saw him at Rib Fest yeah
                                         
                                        You know what okay so here
                                         
                                        Would I go? I have gone so the Linsmore
                                         
                                        Tavern on Danforth
                                         
                                        by Greenwood is this one of the oldest
                                         
                                        pubs in the city and they are
                                         
                                        pretty much seven days a week live music
                                         
                                        and six of those days are cover bands
                                         
    
                                        so one year for my birthday
                                         
                                        just post pandemic I guess
                                         
                                        there was it was a night
                                         
                                        it was red hot chili peppers
                                         
                                        Pearl Jam and Nirvana
                                         
                                        cover bands
                                         
                                        it turned out it was the same band
                                         
                                        just different singer
                                         
    
                                        oh my God that's amazing
                                         
                                        It was great.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So I said,
                                         
                                        you know what for my birthday
                                         
                                        we'd go there.
                                         
                                        It's $10 to get in.
                                         
                                        Look,
                                         
    
                                        I got no problem with cover bag.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I paid $5 bucks for ProJ.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        here's what I'll say.
                                         
                                        I was doing a corporate gig.
                                         
                                        I was DJing a corporate gig,
                                         
                                        and they had a guy who was like a crooner,
                                         
                                        like,
                                         
    
                                        um,
                                         
                                        Sinatra.
                                         
                                        I wish I,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        Sinatra,
                                         
                                        Dean Martin,
                                         
                                        that kind of thing.
                                         
                                        Oh,
                                         
    
                                        I don't have his name in front of me.
                                         
                                        Here's what I liked about him.
                                         
                                        He wasn't doing a Vegas act.
                                         
                                        He wasn't pretending to be those guys.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        I find it hard when they're trying to pretend to be those guys.
                                         
                                        Well, this guy's doing an Eddie.
                                         
                                        Like, he doesn't...
                                         
    
                                        I don't want them to talk like them, though.
                                         
                                        And, or if they try to do the look as well and all that stuff, right?
                                         
                                        There's a fine line, I think, you know?
                                         
                                        I think there's a fine line where it becomes, uh, it's not mockery, but it loses
                                         
                                        the authenticity of the fandom, I think.
                                         
                                        And that might be one of the most, uh, snobby things I've ever said.
                                         
                                        It's true.
                                         
                                        But I find it if they're, if they're up there and they look like they're trying to,
                                         
    
                                        they're cosplay.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        If they're doing cosplay, I have less time for it.
                                         
                                        There's a lot of ABA cover bands that do that.
                                         
                                        There's a very famous one called Bjorn again, which then sort of like franchised around the world.
                                         
                                        The Elvis impersonators have been doing this for the day.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
                                        And then I think Abba's the next in line as far as like there's a multitude of them around the world.
                                         
    
                                        There was a couple kiss ones as well.
                                         
                                        A couple kiss.
                                         
                                        But I think the thing with the ABA ones, it reflects back on Mamma Mia being such a successful musical.
                                         
                                        People just want to hear that music in a live context.
                                         
                                        My son saw a just saw a ACDC cover.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, and quick thought in pearl jamming, which was, I didn't know, you know, I'm not, I think historically I kind of poo-pooed, like, I don't know if I'm too cool for this cover band nonsense, but I fucking loved pro-jambia. It was great, right? Yeah, good. Like, it was great. It was great, and they played a lot of great songs. There's something to be said for being able to hear music in a live environment, even if it's not the band, to get the vibe. Yeah, and to get the vibe of what it was. There's some queen cover bands that are like that. And on Saturday night, I'm at the rec room for this Jamie Dew, F-O-T-M-Jamey has a podcast thing, and he has hired a tragically.
                                         
                                        cover band.
                                         
    
                                        His band is called...
                                         
                                        See, I just saw a tragically hip cover band called Practically Hip.
                                         
                                        The Practically Hip is one of the big ones.
                                         
                                        I just saw them.
                                         
                                        But this one's not that.
                                         
                                        And I can't remember.
                                         
                                        I'll have to like...
                                         
                                        Is it Little Bones?
                                         
    
                                        There's one called Little Bones.
                                         
                                        Somebody find out the name of the tragically hip cover band that is playing the rec room on Saturday
                                         
                                        night for the Jamie Doe hip thing.
                                         
                                        Thank you very much.
                                         
                                        Put it in the live stream.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So I'm going to play something.
                                         
                                        Are we moving on to the thing?
                                         
    
                                        Like the subject matter?
                                         
                                        Well, you can tease it, but then I want to do it.
                                         
                                        Before we do it.
                                         
                                        wanted to thank Mr. Pruse here.
                                         
                                        Yeah, for what?
                                         
                                        For my,
                                         
                                        my church, Oregon, okay, Blue Jays.
                                         
                                        I did that in five minutes.
                                         
    
                                        So I saw, I watched this.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so I came up with this idea.
                                         
                                        It was, uh, I, I, I did it, right?
                                         
                                        No, no, no, no, uh, R.P. did it over here.
                                         
                                        Yeah, there you go.
                                         
                                        Uh, no, I came up with this idea.
                                         
                                        I, on, I do this bit on Sundays called the, uh, Indy Sunday service where I get on and I do
                                         
                                        a foghorn leghorn impression and I'm doing like the Southern, Southern Baptist
                                         
    
                                        preacher and you, yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the Lord has, well, and I usually end up, it started with me improvising, like a sermon based on the songs I'm going to play that hour, is what it started as.
                                         
                                        And then I started to get kind of bored with that.
                                         
                                        And people love it.
                                         
                                        Like, they text the station right away.
                                         
                                        And then I started changing it up.
                                         
                                        I'm like, okay, well, it's summers.
                                         
                                        We'll do all summer things and blah, blah, blah.
                                         
    
                                        And I was, I was like at home 10 o'clock on Sunday morning.
                                         
                                        And it hit me.
                                         
                                        I'm like, I got to do a Blue J player names.
                                         
                                        I was like, they're playing today at the 3 o'clock.
                                         
                                        I need to do this.
                                         
                                        So I texted.
                                         
                                        Mr. Proust, forgetting that you had a matinee on Sundays, it was early enough, totally forgot you
                                         
                                        have matinees. And I said, could you give me, and you're like, Fantam of the opera organ or
                                         
    
                                        church organ or this? I'm like, church organ. I need your, wow. And he turned, turned it around in 90
                                         
                                        minutes and had it to me. It was less than that even. It was amazing. Yeah. And so thank you
                                         
                                        you're welcome. It turned out good, too. It sounds great. Well, I want to thank Rob as well.
                                         
                                        We're all going to thank Proust. I want to thank Proust. I want to thank Proust because, uh,
                                         
                                        when I said I had Chris Murphy and Jay Ferguson coming over. I did that for you too. You
                                         
                                        listen to the new album and you sent in
                                         
                                        I'm going to play it because the guys loved it
                                         
                                        like they wanted more of it
                                         
    
                                        and all I had was this 90 seconds
                                         
                                        but this is Rob
                                         
                                        okay so
                                         
                                        I'm listening I just listened to the new album
                                         
                                        the new Sloan album and I love it so much
                                         
                                        I mean I
                                         
                                        I just am really enjoying it
                                         
                                        and the last song I love because there's a chord that I
                                         
    
                                        freaking love and I had to figure it out
                                         
                                        and learn the song so I'm going to just play it
                                         
                                        and I'm going to show you because
                                         
                                        it's just one of those chords that as soon as
                                         
                                        it hits me, it's, I don't know what it is. It's magic. Anyways, it's this, it's this song. I already know.
                                         
                                        Right, so the, first of all, you get that great piano intro.
                                         
                                        Which is reminiscent of my favorite.
                                         
                                        It's a little abbot thing, but you got a nice, Chris got that right away.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, so then the chords.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        It's beetles.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Beautiful.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
    
                                        Here's the chord I love.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        It's a D over an E bass.
                                         
                                        It's a D over an E bass.
                                         
                                        You guys, I love this album, and what a way to finish it off.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        They love that.
                                         
    
                                        Did they enjoy hearing that?
                                         
                                        It was funny.
                                         
                                        But I like how he said, best review he's heard yet.
                                         
                                        But I like how he described it.
                                         
                                        He called that chord, the medical drama chord, which is what it is.
                                         
                                        I think that's Andrew Scott who calls it back.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
    
                                        Andrew calls it that.
                                         
                                        But I totally got that when he said that.
                                         
                                        Because that's why I like these, like 70s.
                                         
                                        Did you enjoy the Sloan episode?
                                         
                                        Loved it, but I love the album, too.
                                         
                                        And those guys are cool.
                                         
                                        We're playing that on the, we're the only station in Toronto playing that one of the singles
                                         
                                        off that old.
                                         
    
                                        Joe Middleton was at TMLX20
                                         
                                        and he said earlier
                                         
                                        maybe earlier in the day or the day before
                                         
                                        the Sloan drop by
                                         
                                        in the 88. Oh cool.
                                         
                                        Because remember, they were playing the other station
                                         
                                        chorus key
                                         
                                        as we were at TMLX20
                                         
    
                                        like just down the street because we were at Jarvis
                                         
                                        and Queens Cape. Okay, I'm bringing
                                         
                                        this up real quick here. This would be really, really
                                         
                                        quick, this little journey here.
                                         
                                        I'm playing this because I just talked to Paul Cole.
                                         
                                        And this song is the theme song to Dawson's Creek.
                                         
                                        And I thought maybe I would just tell you what I think is a very interesting story about the theme song to Dawson's Creek.
                                         
                                        Are you guys ready?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, do it.
                                         
                                        Let Paula do this party.
                                         
                                        So the fun fact here, we'll get rid of Paula for a moment.
                                         
                                        The fun fact is, I think his name's Kevin Williamson, but the guy,
                                         
                                        was putting together
                                         
                                        Dawson's Creek
                                         
                                        Kevin Williamson
                                         
                                        wanted this
                                         
    
                                        to be the theme song
                                         
                                        and I think the
                                         
                                        original
                                         
                                        demo or pilot
                                         
                                        or whatever
                                         
                                        had this is the theme
                                         
                                        song
                                         
                                        I'm broke
                                         
    
                                        but I'm happy
                                         
                                        I'm poor
                                         
                                        but I'm kind
                                         
                                        so this is
                                         
                                        the unaired pilot episode
                                         
                                        that featured
                                         
                                        I use this
                                         
                                        in my pocket
                                         
    
                                        by Alanis Morissette
                                         
                                        from a jagged
                                         
                                        little pill
                                         
                                        but then when
                                         
                                        it got picked up
                                         
                                        up to be a series, Alanis Morissette didn't want them to use the theme. I guess she denied it
                                         
                                        or whatever. So these two people who are in charge of the music, they're apparently a guy
                                         
                                        named Stupin and a person named McCullough. They were looking for other options. And they
                                         
    
                                        actually commissioned a song by a Canadian singer named Jan Arden. Really?
                                         
                                        My head is in the clouds
                                         
                                        My feet have left the ground
                                         
                                        My life is turning around
                                         
                                        Every voice inside my head is
                                         
                                        Telling me to run like metal
                                         
                                        Bowls and arrows
                                         
                                        Stars and suns
                                         
    
                                        Hey hey hey hey hey yeah
                                         
                                        Every heartbeat
                                         
                                        So Jan receives like a flat C to create Run Like Mad.
                                         
                                        And this is the Dawson's Creek theme.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So this is a song that Jan Arden made for Dawson's Creek.
                                         
                                        But the WB had licensed I Don't Want to Wait by Paula Cole.
                                         
                                        And they used it in like some promo that was running in Blockbuster video stores.
                                         
    
                                        So they would show like Dawson's Creek, it was to I don't want to wait.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So the WB suggested that they use.
                                         
                                        I don't want to wait by Paul Cole.
                                         
                                        And an 11th hour decision,
                                         
                                        they ended up changing it up.
                                         
                                        So they didn't use Jan Arden's song.
                                         
                                        This is like a follow-up to your Paula Cole episode.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, they couldn't.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        I wish I had all this info for Paula.
                                         
                                        But they couldn't use Alanis-Morissette's song.
                                         
                                        They paid for this Jan Arden song that they were going to use.
                                         
                                        And then they switched it up at the 11th hour.
                                         
                                        And the rest is history.
                                         
                                        But there's a little bit of one more thing.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So Sony music failed to secure the right.
                                         
                                        for home video and online streaming
                                         
                                        services and didn't want to
                                         
                                        pay for them later. So when they
                                         
                                        were making DVDs and some
                                         
                                        video on demand versions of
                                         
                                        Dawson's Creek, they went back
                                         
    
                                        to the Jane Arden version.
                                         
                                        So there's a lot of people who
                                         
                                        don't watch it on the WB, who discover
                                         
                                        it via certain streaming services
                                         
                                        who think this was always
                                         
                                        the theme song
                                         
                                        to Dawson's Creek.
                                         
                                        Wow. Do you think there are a lot of people
                                         
    
                                        who started watching on
                                         
                                        streaming service Dawson Street never watched it before
                                         
                                        and didn't know that I don't want to wait
                                         
                                        was the theme 100%. I think there's maybe four
                                         
                                        people that are like that. No, I think there's more. I think there's
                                         
                                        more than four. But anyway, they did
                                         
                                        eventually resolve these licensing issues.
                                         
                                        I think Paula Cole recorded
                                         
    
                                        a new version because she didn't have the rights to her master.
                                         
                                        She alluded to this in her episode. Oh, that's right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when Netflix brought the show back,
                                         
                                        they ended up using this new
                                         
                                        version of I don't want to wait.
                                         
                                        Paula's version. Yeah, actually.
                                         
                                        Just like Taylor.
                                         
                                        Yes. Okay, it's funny. It's funny. It's funny.
                                         
    
                                        mention that. Can I take another minute
                                         
                                        and share something else? Sure, can I just say one thing about Kevin
                                         
                                        Williamson? Yeah. Created Scream.
                                         
                                        Yes, he did. Really? Yeah. Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        And he's directing part seven. He's writing and directing
                                         
                                        part seven. Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        It's the Scream franchise. He created that as well.
                                         
                                        Dawson's not doing well right now.
                                         
    
                                        James Vanderbeek
                                         
                                        was unable to attend the very
                                         
                                        recent reunion. I think
                                         
                                        Michelle Williams put this together. It was a Dawson's Creek
                                         
                                        reunion and they all
                                         
                                        saying, I don't want to wait
                                         
                                        for James Vanderbeek. I wasn't able
                                         
                                        to make the trip due to health concerns.
                                         
    
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        He's a young man.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So we're all rooting for James.
                                         
                                        I wonder if he's getting his hip replaced.
                                         
                                        Oh, no.
                                         
    
                                        It's worse than that, I hear.
                                         
                                        It's tragic.
                                         
                                        Okay, so you mentioned Taylor's version.
                                         
                                        I did.
                                         
                                        It's like you're reading my notes over here, Bob.
                                         
                                        I don't know what to say.
                                         
                                        Unbelievable here.
                                         
                                        I'm going to dedicate this little route before we get to the core here to
                                         
    
                                        Stephanie Wilkinson, who was at TMLX20 at GLB Brew Pub.
                                         
                                        And is a big Swifty.
                                         
                                        Like, she's a big time Swifty, much like my nine-year-old daughter.
                                         
                                        So I'm a Swifty too
                                         
                                        Her new album comes out on Friday
                                         
                                        They walk amongst us
                                         
                                        Did you see Mark Marins
                                         
                                        Special?
                                         
    
                                        Really good
                                         
                                        I'll tell you a quick story
                                         
                                        You can do it now
                                         
                                        I mean
                                         
                                        Okay so Mark Maron
                                         
                                        The last bit in his new
                                         
                                        Netflix stand-up special
                                         
                                        He plays a part of a
                                         
    
                                        Taylor Swift song
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And he cost him $75,000
                                         
                                        I think it was the final thing
                                         
                                        Like just to play like 30 seconds of a song
                                         
                                        And that was a that's a lot
                                         
                                        So that was a friend price.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
    
                                        Well, I hear Rob Pruse's wife was going to license that song for his 60th Earth.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        I highly recommend the Mark.
                                         
                                        I got to watch it, yes.
                                         
                                        Scorch, Dirk's Mark Merrin is great.
                                         
                                        Is he still doing the podcast?
                                         
                                        No, he's, well, he's ending it.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know if it's end.
                                         
                                        He's wrapping it up.
                                         
                                        Is he going to have a big finale?
                                         
                                        Do we know?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Okay, so why am I playing this?
                                         
                                        I'll get to cut to the chase here.
                                         
                                        All too well.
                                         
    
                                        You know this song?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I've played the.
                                         
                                        this song on the piano.
                                         
                                        This is all too well, Rob.
                                         
                                        The fun version is this version I'm playing is officially has this name, okay?
                                         
                                        All Too Well, and then in parentheses, 10-minute version.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And then in parentheses, Taylor's version, and then in parentheses from the vault.
                                         
                                        So this is a super parentheses jam.
                                         
                                        It's a double parentheses.
                                         
                                        Three, triple.
                                         
                                        Oh, triple.
                                         
                                        Sorry, yeah.
                                         
                                        10-minute version, Taylor's version, from the vault.
                                         
                                        Also, ready for a mind blow?
                                         
    
                                        Always.
                                         
                                        You guys sitting down?
                                         
                                        Sitting.
                                         
                                        Don't look at my notes, Rob.
                                         
                                        This is the longest song in the history of the Billboard Hot 100 to hit number one.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        The longest song, because this song, what goes on and on?
                                         
                                        So it's a 10-minute version, right in the title.
                                         
    
                                        All right, so anybody want to guess what song had that record before All Too Well, 10-minute version,
                                         
                                        Taylor's version
                                         
                                        From the Vault
                                         
                                        My immediate guess
                                         
                                        was going to be
                                         
                                        Paradise by the dashboard
                                         
                                        light
                                         
                                        or the one
                                         
    
                                        where Puff Daddy
                                         
                                        took that
                                         
                                        Led Zeflin's song
                                         
                                        Bohemian Rhapsody
                                         
                                        These are all good guesses
                                         
                                        Uh huh
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        This is longer than Bohemian
                                         
    
                                        Rohingi is 555
                                         
                                        Wow
                                         
                                        It's nothing
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So
                                         
                                        This for 50 years
                                         
                                        And I knew if I had my chance
                                         
                                        This little jam, you might have heard once or twice.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, Madonna's cover is probably your favorite version, right, Rob?
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        So 50 years, this song was the longest song to hit number one on the Billboard Hall 100.
                                         
                                        And now it's all too well, Taylor's version.
                                         
                                        That's super cool.
                                         
                                        Okay, one more thing I want to share, and that's okay.
                                         
                                        So we're talking about songs that went to number, long songs that went to number one.
                                         
                                        but the longest song that cracked the top 100.
                                         
    
                                        So it's a hot 100, right?
                                         
                                        The billboard's hot 100.
                                         
                                        The longest song to crack the top 100,
                                         
                                        I think this is wild.
                                         
                                        Just let us soak in a bit here.
                                         
                                        Let me drink my coffee.
                                         
                                        This song cracked the top 100.
                                         
                                        Sounds like it's from a soundtrack.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't think it got very high,
                                         
                                        but it did crack the top 100.
                                         
                                        I should have taken a note
                                         
                                        Oh yeah there is some haters on Reddit
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        So just because I see it in the live stream
                                         
                                        I was going to talk about this on FOTMcast
                                         
    
                                        But just a little teaser is that
                                         
                                        I think if you just want to celebrate Canada's greatest band Sloan
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        And you just want to hear about the amazing new music
                                         
                                        and the fact they're still together
                                         
                                        and they're going on tour
                                         
                                        and you're looking for like an extended PR
                                         
                                        like a press release, right?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think you'd be a little upset
                                         
                                        with my conversation on Friday.
                                         
                                        You think?
                                         
                                        Oh yeah, no, they're not fans of a...
                                         
                                        They're saying that Chris sounded really exhausted.
                                         
                                        No, drained.
                                         
                                        They said definitely drained was Chris.
                                         
    
                                        Chris was drained during this interview.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        During your video here?
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Well, that's funny.
                                         
                                        Well, that's somebody on Reddit.
                                         
                                        He's a super fan.
                                         
    
                                        Is they're in the Sloan music?
                                         
                                        Yeah, these are Sloan fans.
                                         
                                        I mean, Trash Panda 1733 just ends with
                                         
                                        straight to the point, Toronto Mike sucks.
                                         
                                        Oh, geez.
                                         
                                        I fucking love Trash Panda.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I thought you guys were close.
                                         
                                        Jesus, okay.
                                         
    
                                        So what did we listen to?
                                         
                                        I think that's Cam Gordon.
                                         
                                        This is not on the, was it not on the charts.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's where I'm going here.
                                         
                                        Not this part.
                                         
                                        There will be more about the Sloan episode in FOTM cast on Friday.
                                         
                                        I love Sloan and respect Sloan.
                                         
                                        And I was wearing a Sloan t-shirt during the episode.
                                         
    
                                        But at the same time,
                                         
                                        I'll discuss this in more detail on Friday.
                                         
                                        I felt like I can't have Chris and Jay in the basement.
                                         
                                        If I don't ask for some commentary on things said in this very basement in 2025
                                         
                                        from the other half of Sloan.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I appreciated that.
                                         
                                        Patrick and Andrew were over here.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And they said some things.
                                         
                                        Like, am I supposed to, oh, I don't want to upset anybody.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        Like, it was on my mics.
                                         
                                        Do you know what I thought was really?
                                         
                                        They said it publicly.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        You know what I thought was really interesting?
                                         
                                        It made me reflect on the band.
                                         
                                        that I've been in, and the fact that it always comes down to, like, camps in a band.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So you've got Chris and Jay reminded me of when Johnny and Derry from Honeyman Suite came over.
                                         
                                        And Johnny and Derry have sort of always been the driving force.
                                         
                                        Even though the band has been relatively unchanged for 40 years, Johnny and Derry are like,
                                         
                                        like the old married couple that run that shit.
                                         
    
                                        And it's similarly in the spoons, Gordon Sandy.
                                         
                                        And so bands need, need, like, there's always like two, it was like what John and Paul
                                         
                                        used to be in the Beatles.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then John's gone and Paul lives on with the legacy.
                                         
                                        and John's history becomes more
                                         
                                        mythological, right?
                                         
                                        But Chris and Jay,
                                         
    
                                        I thought it was cool
                                         
                                        how you interjected
                                         
                                        those other guys
                                         
                                        in there as well.
                                         
                                        I just did my thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I didn't have an agenda
                                         
                                        to get anybody.
                                         
    
                                        I just wanted a real talk conversation
                                         
                                        that wasn't, you know,
                                         
                                        it was interesting because they were...
                                         
                                        Patrick whispered in my ear,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
                                        this guy was fucking this secretary or whatever.
                                         
                                        Well, watch the hip documentary.
                                         
                                        You saw it there.
                                         
    
                                        Like, Paul Langua
                                         
                                        wouldn't say shit about shit.
                                         
                                        Paul was all about Gord.
                                         
                                        Paul and Gord were the one
                                         
                                        side and the other guys were the other.
                                         
                                        That is clear.
                                         
                                        And in there was Jake in the middle and then Bernie as well.
                                         
                                        It happens in every band.
                                         
    
                                        The Sloan band dynamic is fascinating.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it really is.
                                         
                                        And I have half the band in the basement and I just had the other half.
                                         
                                        Of course you have to do it.
                                         
                                        You did well.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, it was very cool.
                                         
                                        That means a lot to me.
                                         
                                        But it's the, if you were a diehard fan looking for a press release.
                                         
    
                                        You do things I wouldn't be comfortable doing.
                                         
                                        No, I mean it.
                                         
                                        You go there.
                                         
                                        Because then I take hits like this from the Slan fan.
                                         
                                        Well, no, it's good for, you know what?
                                         
                                        The Slan Band is you ask the Slan fans.
                                         
                                        You ask the slam fans.
                                         
                                        You ask questions as a fan.
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Not as a journalist, not as a media guy.
                                         
                                        You ask, like, they were like, oh, he only talks about three years of music is what they, one of the complaints that they had about you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        That's okay.
                                         
                                        If you did, I don't think that's true, first of all.
                                         
                                        It's not true, but it's not true at all.
                                         
                                        No, dare you.
                                         
    
                                        But that's their, you know, their reality is their, whatever.
                                         
                                        So, but my point is, like, even if you did, these guys came on knowing what you bring.
                                         
                                        to the table.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        It's not like,
                                         
                                        it's not like Gino Valley
                                         
                                        walking into the basement
                                         
                                        going, what the fuck is this?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Where am I?
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        There was no,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        it was they were alone.
                                         
                                        They all know you.
                                         
                                        Alper wasn't hiding in the wings.
                                         
    
                                        No,
                                         
                                        it was good.
                                         
                                        I thought it was really cool.
                                         
                                        So this fucking song.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        what is this is this?
                                         
                                        Right?
                                         
                                        So this is the longest song
                                         
    
                                        ever to crack the top 100.
                                         
                                        This is Andre 3,000.
                                         
                                        I was just going to say I thought maybe it was.
                                         
                                        It's flute.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Do you want to know the title of this fucking song?
                                         
                                        Uh-huh.
                                         
                                        I can't wait to say this.
                                         
    
                                        Yes,
                                         
                                        it is.
                                         
                                        I swear I really wanted to make a rap album,
                                         
                                        but this is literally the way the wind blew me this time.
                                         
                                        So the full title is, I swear, comma,
                                         
                                        I really wanted to make a rap album.
                                         
                                        Rap is in like quotes.
                                         
                                        But this is literally the way the wind blew me this time.
                                         
    
                                        That's the record for the longest song.
                                         
                                        Amazing.
                                         
                                        And it's longer than, you know, obviously than Taylor's version of Paul.
                                         
                                        Good for him.
                                         
                                        Well, one last thing, and we're going to get to the fucking jams.
                                         
                                        But here's the song.
                                         
                                        Oh, that Sloan Talks got me all punching now.
                                         
                                        This is the song that had the record for longest song to crack the top 100,
                                         
    
                                        before Andre 3000 took that record away from them.
                                         
                                        My goodness gracious.
                                         
                                        Let me hear Bob Willett name that tune here.
                                         
                                        Hold on.
                                         
                                        I don't think Rob's going to have a chance.
                                         
                                        You know, I think Mike's on the live stream.
                                         
                                        Mike, let's see how long it takes you to name that tune.
                                         
                                        Sounds Buddhist.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        That bell.
                                         
                                        You know who would get this?
                                         
                                        I think already, Robbie J would have had this by now.
                                         
                                        So is it late 80s CFNY?
                                         
                                        No, but when you hear the band, you'll be like that.
                                         
                                        So you two?
                                         
                                        Nope.
                                         
    
                                        Why don't you tell us the topic, Bob?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So much to Mike's chagrin, because he thinks it's too interesting.
                                         
                                        inside and too much about us.
                                         
                                        Yeah, too subjective. Everything's subjective.
                                         
                                        If I say songs about the moon.
                                         
                                        Yeah, maybe I'll do a song with Keith Moon.
                                         
                                        That's a good idea.
                                         
    
                                        That's still, at least that's a moon song.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you would do that.
                                         
                                        Hey, hey, hey. Is this, Mike's got, hey, hey, hey.
                                         
                                        I don't know this. I don't know this.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I feel like it's got a long buildup before it gets to something.
                                         
                                        Okay, so tell us the topic.
                                         
                                        So the topic is, son of a bitch.
                                         
                                        songs that have had
                                         
    
                                        a profound impact on you
                                         
                                        and that's all
                                         
                                        songs that have had a profound impact on you
                                         
                                        I don't care how
                                         
                                        just that songs that have moved you
                                         
                                        is the best way of putting
                                         
                                        personally profound jam
                                         
                                        I need to think of a short way to write it
                                         
    
                                        songs songs that have had a
                                         
                                        profound impact and they're meaningful to us
                                         
                                        yeah yeah that's a profound I mean that's profound yeah
                                         
                                        oh is this tool
                                         
                                        yeah how did you get
                                         
                                        what was it? Oh no it's uh I I'm getting
                                         
                                        it now with the thing. Oh, okay, with the guitar. That does sound. They got into a tool sound there. Mike got it
                                         
                                        online. It's called, oh, did he? I knew he would. Fear inoculum is the name of this tool song that
                                         
    
                                        cracked the top 100. And it was the longest song in the top 100 until Andre 3000s. I swear,
                                         
                                        I really wanted to make a rap album, but this is literally the way the wind blew me. As soon as Maynard
                                         
                                        started, I would have got it. I'm, I realize with bands like Tool, I think I've said this before,
                                         
                                        Tool and Deftones specifically
                                         
                                        They're bands that I love
                                         
                                        Five or six songs
                                         
                                        And that's it
                                         
                                        Like five or six songs that I love
                                         
    
                                        You know my favorite tool songs still is
                                         
                                        Because it's the first song I heard
                                         
                                        And I used to
                                         
                                        Sober
                                         
                                        Sober
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        That takes me back to the Phoenix
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        Yeah there you go
                                         
                                        We're going
                                         
                                        Profound songs
                                         
                                        Sounds that you have had
                                         
                                        Songs that have had a profound impact on
                                         
                                        Is Bob going to start today?
                                         
                                        Do you want them to?
                                         
    
                                        I have you starting
                                         
                                        Maybe the person who comes up
                                         
                                        at the topic is to start
                                         
                                        Oh, that's interesting
                                         
                                        maybe the person who comes up with the topic
                                         
                                        should close. Oh, that's true too.
                                         
                                        Sure. That's a good idea.
                                         
                                        Oh, pull a good fucking ideas. Okay, pay attention.
                                         
    
                                        That's why you're here.
                                         
                                        Careful, Trash Panda 17, whatever. He's coming after you.
                                         
                                        Show me your phone. I want to see how you're logged into Reddit.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Are you trash panda?
                                         
                                        I'm not, I assure you I'm not trash panda, but you can't, this,
                                         
                                        I might be logged into Reddit under an account that I wouldn't be very proud of showing
                                         
                                        some of the subreddits I go on.
                                         
    
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        I don't like, I don't, I've never been on Reddit.
                                         
                                        Reddit's the best.
                                         
                                        Reddit is a daily stop for me
                                         
                                        to see what's in the zeitgeist.
                                         
                                        Like, it's a good aggregator.
                                         
                                        But do you follow specific channels?
                                         
                                        How does it work?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, of course.
                                         
                                        Things you're interested in.
                                         
                                        I do two things.
                                         
                                        I don't know what Bob does.
                                         
                                        I do two things.
                                         
                                        Reddit.com would be,
                                         
                                        the front page.
                                         
                                        Well, no, well, no, there's two things.
                                         
    
                                        Reddit.com is my subreddits I'm subscribed to.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Reddit.com slash R-slash-all, A-L, L,
                                         
                                        gives you the everything.
                                         
                                        So that's what's big and,
                                         
                                        for everybody, like, not specific.
                                         
                                        My Reddit is RQEQ, actually.
                                         
                                        If you find, if you see RQEQ, that's me.
                                         
    
                                        I'll tell people that way.
                                         
                                        I learned a little about, like, now that you mentioned Reddit,
                                         
                                        there was some chat about it yesterday on the line
                                         
                                        because after Trump gave his,
                                         
                                        and what's his name, gave their bullshit military, whatever.
                                         
                                        Oh, you mentioned 51st State again yesterday.
                                         
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        Stay diligent.
                                         
    
                                        But apparently there's a military Reddit where people were commenting,
                                         
                                        like, well, who is this, what's going on?
                                         
                                        I like the fact that they're still at a place where they're,
                                         
                                        They don't applaud.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        they're still quiet after.
                                         
                                        What's that Pete Hegseth?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        that was like drop a needle quiet.
                                         
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        And it was on purpose.
                                         
                                        For sure.
                                         
                                        Thank God.
                                         
                                        I was worried if they start to,
                                         
                                        I don't know,
                                         
    
                                        clap or something.
                                         
                                        No, they were like,
                                         
                                        this is,
                                         
                                        this might be,
                                         
                                        I don't want to say it.
                                         
                                        I was at the beginning of the end,
                                         
                                        but I don't know.
                                         
                                        We've been saying that all year.
                                         
    
                                        I know,
                                         
                                        but I feel like now that they've,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
                                        did you hear what they said?
                                         
                                        We're not going to engage,
                                         
                                        but I don't want to get into it.
                                         
                                        We're not going to,
                                         
                                        these laws of engagement,
                                         
    
                                        forget it.
                                         
                                        law of engagement. You can't be fat.
                                         
                                        You can't be fat. You know, you were going to...
                                         
                                        I heard you spit, we hit.
                                         
                                        Yep. No, like, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's, uh... It's all ridiculous.
                                         
                                        It's right out of the page.
                                         
                                        Come home, Rob.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, Rob. No, you know what?
                                         
                                        Make, you're working.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, I enjoy the challenge of like, like, like,
                                         
                                        putting up with this bullshit. And I ain't afraid.
                                         
                                        It's crazy.
                                         
                                        Introduce your first, uh, was again, uh, profound, like, personally profound just jam.
                                         
                                        Songs that had a profound impact.
                                         
                                        on you. I don't understand why you can't do that. I found it difficult for a couple of reasons,
                                         
    
                                        but I'll save it till it's my turn. I'm going to go second. I found it difficult too, actually.
                                         
                                        So why did you find it difficult? Maybe we have the same feelings on this. So I found it difficult
                                         
                                        because for me, all music is profound, right? It's profound in a universal sense. But what it all
                                         
                                        affects me. Like literally, all music gives you an emotional reaction? Almost all music does. Because
                                         
                                        what I do is I tie so much. Even that Andre 3000 song?
                                         
                                        I don't really know that.
                                         
                                        I like it, though.
                                         
                                        It was really cool.
                                         
    
                                        But when I like music, it's profound because it has a meaning to me where I think I don't
                                         
                                        remember my world without music in it.
                                         
                                        And because I started playing piano when I was five, my connection to music was always
                                         
                                        developing and deepening.
                                         
                                        So I have this weird, I always call it like a rain man connection because I hold, I hold
                                         
                                        pockets of information in my head that I can't really describe because it's just there.
                                         
                                        So it's just part of who I am.
                                         
                                        So for me, to look at what I would consider profound music, profound music, profound, profound, profound, profound.
                                         
    
                                        It's hard to like produce, this is a great question of our time.
                                         
                                        It's exactly right.
                                         
                                        It's pasta or pasta.
                                         
                                        It's pasta.
                                         
                                        They all work.
                                         
                                        But all music to me has a meaning.
                                         
                                        It's not your mama.
                                         
                                        It can be meaningful to you.
                                         
    
                                        Foyer or foyer.
                                         
                                        Foyer.
                                         
                                        Foyer.
                                         
                                        Jesus Christ.
                                         
                                        It's foyer.
                                         
                                        Album or album?
                                         
                                        Oh, album.
                                         
                                        Also.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah. I got up guys. Ladies, and this is especially for Liza Fromer, if you're listening at home.
                                         
                                        Rob Proust just winked at me.
                                         
                                        What about liquor or liqueur? Licker or liqueur?
                                         
                                        I think there's differences.
                                         
                                        No, Americans, you say liquor for liqueurs.
                                         
                                        I don't like that. No, I hate it. Oh, it's the worst.
                                         
                                        That's weird. I follow a bunch of bartenders. Can I confess something when Rob winked at me?
                                         
                                        Little, it moved? It moved.
                                         
    
                                        I, uh, oh, never mind. All right, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Okay.
                                         
                                        Profound music.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's profound.
                                         
                                        I understand.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        I understand.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Can I tell you?
                                         
                                        All, but I'll save it for my time.
                                         
                                        I found this to be, uh, by far the most difficult topic for.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        I think it's difficult.
                                         
                                        You're welcome.
                                         
                                        Because I just had to make choices.
                                         
    
                                        I had to like reduce.
                                         
                                        But we don't have a veto power, right, Rob Pruse?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        That's a key detail.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        You didn't.
                                         
                                        You didn't.
                                         
                                        You hated it.
                                         
    
                                        I have to record this and drop it.
                                         
                                        If I don't like the topic, I have to just, I have to suck it up, suck it up, buttercup.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        Any words before your first jam, Rob Prud.
                                         
                                        No, it's going to be profound from the beginning.
                                         
                                        You know what? It took too long to play, and I thought I didn't press it.
                                         
                                        So I'm going to do that again. I'll fix it in post.
                                         
                                        Hello, everyone. This is your action news reporter with all the news.
                                         
    
                                        It is news across the nation on the scene at the supermarket.
                                         
                                        This isn't Santa John.
                                         
                                        Pardon me, sir. Did you see what happened?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I did. I stand over by the tomatoes, and here he come.
                                         
                                        Running through the pole beans, through the fruits and vegetables.
                                         
                                        Naked as a j-burn.
                                         
                                        I was colored over death, though, I said, don't look at it, though.
                                         
                                        And it's too late.
                                         
    
                                        She'd already been in the scenes.
                                         
                                        Here he comes.
                                         
                                        Boogie dad, boogie day.
                                         
                                        There he goes.
                                         
                                        Boogie dad, boogie dad.
                                         
                                        And he ain't wearing no clothes.
                                         
                                        Oh, yes, they call him the street.
                                         
                                        Ah, I thought so.
                                         
    
                                        Boogie-Dade, boogie-a-da.
                                         
                                        Passed his thing on two feet.
                                         
                                        I have this on barn.
                                         
                                        He's just that proud as he can be.
                                         
                                        His anatomy, he's going to give us a peek.
                                         
                                        Oh, yes, they call him the street.
                                         
                                        He likes to show off his physique
                                         
                                        If there's an audience to be found
                                         
    
                                        You'll be streaking it around
                                         
                                        Inviting public critique
                                         
                                        This is your ex-news reporter once again
                                         
                                        And we're here at the gas station
                                         
                                        Pardon me, sir, did you see what happened?
                                         
                                        Yeah, Dave
                                         
                                        I was just in here getting my cars checked
                                         
                                        He just appeared out of the traffic
                                         
    
                                        Come streaking around the grease right there
                                         
                                        Didn't have nothing on but a smile
                                         
                                        I'm looking at Rob to see if he'll get mad if I, you want it up?
                                         
                                        For the whole song?
                                         
                                        You know, did we do that?
                                         
                                        I don't know, you might get taken down.
                                         
                                        Where's Santa Jaws?
                                         
                                        Okay, he's got out of him.
                                         
    
                                        So, this is the streak by Ray Stevens.
                                         
                                        I believe it was a number one song in 1974.
                                         
                                        Number three in the country charts here, number one in the U.K.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's a huge song.
                                         
                                        It's a novelty song.
                                         
                                        It is a novelty song.
                                         
                                        How old are you in 1974 when it comes out?
                                         
    
                                        I was eight.
                                         
                                        And how hilarious is this song to you?
                                         
                                        This was the very first 45 I ever was purchased.
                                         
                                        Actually, my grandpa bought it for me.
                                         
                                        In 74?
                                         
                                        In 74.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        Because Santa Jaws is 75.
                                         
    
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        I have,
                                         
                                        so I have this picture of my,
                                         
                                        remember when you used to have those little 45 cases where you hold all your records?
                                         
                                        I still have the picture of my index.
                                         
                                        And I have Santa Jaws and I have Mr. Jaws and I have the streak and I have Elton John.
                                         
                                        and I have Donnie Marie and I have Queen Bremen Rhapsody.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
    
                                        But the streak was the very first 45 I ever got.
                                         
                                        And I was thinking about it thinking I had albums already.
                                         
                                        I had the Partridge family.
                                         
                                        I had Sesame Street.
                                         
                                        I had Liberace.
                                         
                                        But this was the first time that I heard a song on CCOC and I was like, I want that song.
                                         
                                        So my grandpa took me to Zellers and they had like all the top 40 slots, all the little slots
                                         
                                        and you get the record.
                                         
    
                                        And all they wanted was the streak.
                                         
                                        So I think for me it's profound because it was the beginning of my journey of like
                                         
                                        thinking what I hear on the radio
                                         
                                        I can actually have that record
                                         
                                        and like it's like
                                         
                                        the magical thing of you realize
                                         
                                        like oh I can on demand
                                         
                                        I can play this song I don't have to wait
                                         
    
                                        On demand wasn't even a thing
                                         
                                        No I can drop the needle whenever I want
                                         
                                        So like whenever that song starts
                                         
                                        Yeah whenever that song starts
                                         
                                        I like get that magic feeling like it's the weirdest thing
                                         
                                        It's such a dumb song
                                         
                                        But it says a lot about me and my sense of humor
                                         
                                        Because I've always loved stupid comedy
                                         
    
                                        And it went to number one you said
                                         
                                        Yeah number one in the UK
                                         
                                        Number one in the UK, number three on the country charts here in North America.
                                         
                                        But did a chart on the Billboard Hot 100?
                                         
                                        For sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'm sure it did.
                                         
                                        Well, find out what it peaked at.
                                         
                                        Come on, do your job here.
                                         
    
                                        It's not honest.
                                         
                                        I want to say, and Bob might have the same memory since we're only a couple years difference in age.
                                         
                                        But I remember, like, 74, it was number eight.
                                         
                                        Ads on TV with Ray Steven selling, like his greatest hits or something.
                                         
                                        And that's when I discovered the streak.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But here's the other thing about the streak in 1974.
                                         
                                        So when I was eight, I was obsessed with the movie The Exorcist, which had come out.
                                         
    
                                        And I never saw it.
                                         
                                        I was too young.
                                         
                                        My mom bought me the paperback.
                                         
                                        I never really read it, but I wanted it.
                                         
                                        And I was scared shitless looking at it on my bookshelf.
                                         
                                        But then she let me stay up late to watch the Academy Awards that year.
                                         
                                        And there was a streaker on the Academy Awards.
                                         
                                        So streaking was the thing.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah, the baseball games.
                                         
                                        Yes, exactly.
                                         
                                        And I went streaking with my friend Bob down the street tour by the public school and my babysitter caught us.
                                         
                                        And it was very embarrassing.
                                         
                                        So streaking has been a part of my life.
                                         
                                        Number one on the U.S. Hot 100.
                                         
                                        Number three on the country.
                                         
                                        12 on adult contemporary
                                         
    
                                        RPM Canada number one
                                         
                                        RPM country number one
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Adult contemporary number one
                                         
                                        UK number one
                                         
                                        Wait but slow down
                                         
                                        Because the big big chart
                                         
                                        We've been talking about
                                         
    
                                        For pop hits is that
                                         
                                        Billboard Hot 100
                                         
                                        Imagine a novelty
                                         
                                        Like I mean I know it happened
                                         
                                        Back in the day
                                         
                                        I don't think it happens
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        I don't think it happens much anymore
                                         
    
                                        But every song is a novelty now
                                         
                                        Every song's a novelty
                                         
                                        But number one for a novelty song
                                         
                                        Is wild
                                         
                                        The year end chart for Canada
                                         
                                        This was number two
                                         
                                        Isn't that crazy
                                         
                                        Yeah number two
                                         
    
                                        For 1974
                                         
                                        before.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        That's great.
                                         
                                        When you were talking
                                         
                                        to Fred Mullen,
                                         
                                        he was talking
                                         
                                        about Mr.
                                         
    
                                        Jaws.
                                         
                                        It was similar,
                                         
                                        like I thought,
                                         
                                        Santa Jaws.
                                         
                                        But Mr.
                                         
                                        Jaws had come out as well,
                                         
                                        which was a song where they took
                                         
                                        excerpts of all these other pop songs
                                         
    
                                        and strung them together like a...
                                         
                                        But that wasn't him,
                                         
                                        right?
                                         
                                        No, that wasn't him.
                                         
                                        But Santa Jaws,
                                         
                                        and he sort of,
                                         
                                        in passing,
                                         
                                        mentioned the fact that the side,
                                         
    
                                        side B of the single was all Christmas carols,
                                         
                                        but like with a shark theme,
                                         
                                        that was my favorite side.
                                         
                                        And I never forget all those songs that you wrote.
                                         
                                        Well,
                                         
                                        maybe who picks the topic for December?
                                         
                                        Maybe we can kick out some Christmas
                                         
                                        theme songs and you can play it.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I do.
                                         
                                        Okay, well,
                                         
                                        who's picking the topic today?
                                         
                                        You, Rob?
                                         
                                        No,
                                         
                                        I believe it's you.
                                         
                                        I don't think so.
                                         
    
                                        Because I did one and then Bob did the last one.
                                         
                                        I did the songs where the titles not mentioned in the lyric.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's right.
                                         
                                        I'm sure it's you,
                                         
                                        Rob.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you're right.
                                         
                                        I'll be thinking about it right on the episode.
                                         
                                        Okay, I think you handle the topic nicely.
                                         
    
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        That song and that age hits you.
                                         
                                        It has a profound effect on you.
                                         
                                        So I think that's a good example.
                                         
                                        And by way, there's no wrong answers today.
                                         
                                        That's why I said we can even have dupes.
                                         
                                        In theory, we could have all kicked out the same three songs
                                         
                                        because it's a subjective thing or whatever.
                                         
    
                                        So Bob closes because he picked the topic,
                                         
                                        which means, and I hope I haven't,
                                         
                                        I hope I'm not being redundant.
                                         
                                        But you only, you know, your life, of course,
                                         
                                        we've done a lot of episodes.
                                         
                                        We're going to probably play songs
                                         
                                        that have a profound effect on you,
                                         
                                        and I'm sure I've played this,
                                         
    
                                        but I'm going to play it again.
                                         
                                        Good.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Go.
                                         
                                        considered him a coward of the county he'd never stood one single time to prove the county
                                         
                                        wrong his mama named him Tommy folks just called him yellow something always
                                         
                                        told me they were reading Tommy wrong he was only 10 years old when his daddy
                                         
                                        died in prison
                                         
    
                                        I looked after Tommy
                                         
                                        because he was my brother's son
                                         
                                        I still recall
                                         
                                        the final words my brother said
                                         
                                        Tommy
                                         
                                        son my life is over
                                         
                                        but yours has just begun
                                         
                                        promise my son
                                         
    
                                        not to do the things I've done
                                         
                                        walk away
                                         
                                        If you can
                                         
                                        Rob, tell my daughter Morgan
                                         
                                        I wore the toast earring today
                                         
                                        I love it. I forgot it last month.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, it looks really good on you.
                                         
                                        Maybe I'll wear it every day.
                                         
    
                                        You should.
                                         
                                        I want to be as cool as Bob Willett.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So, this song,
                                         
                                        Don't worry, Y, Y, Y, Z, Gord.
                                         
                                        You haven't missed anything.
                                         
                                        We're just starting here.
                                         
                                        You miss most of the show.
                                         
    
                                        I'm just catching up.
                                         
                                        I'm seeing here.
                                         
                                        The streaker's name was Robert O'Pell.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm the cat.
                                         
                                        He died at 39.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        I'm sad to hear that
                                         
                                        Canada Kev doesn't remember
                                         
    
                                        Dr. DeMento playing the street
                                         
                                        but I don't know what to say
                                         
                                        I don't remember that necessarily either
                                         
                                        See Leslie remembers Mr. Jaws on the line
                                         
                                        because we're the same generation
                                         
                                        Well cousin Jano
                                         
                                        who I was spending time with
                                         
                                        at TMLX20
                                         
    
                                        I believe loved Santa Jaws
                                         
                                        if I remember correctly
                                         
                                        So this is a
                                         
                                        Kenny Rogers song
                                         
                                        Coward of the County
                                         
                                        and written by a couple of guys
                                         
                                        named Roger Bowling
                                         
                                        That name's going to come up again in a minute.
                                         
    
                                        And Billy Ed Wheeler.
                                         
                                        And it was released in November, 1979.
                                         
                                        It was the second and final single from the album titled Creatively Kenny.
                                         
                                        They called it Kenny.
                                         
                                        It actually talking, speaking about the Hot 100, the Billboard Hot 100, it went to number three.
                                         
                                        So this is a crossover hit for Kenny Rogers.
                                         
                                        This is a pop hit.
                                         
                                        In what year was that?
                                         
    
                                        79.
                                         
                                        Seventy-nine.
                                         
                                        Late 79.
                                         
                                        Imagine what that chart looked like.
                                         
                                        I'd love to see that week's chart.
                                         
                                        I love those charts.
                                         
                                        That's why, like, we grown up in the 70s, like, I mean, of course, I remember vaguely early 70s, late 60s even.
                                         
                                        But the variety of music is hilariously cool.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I think it's just ridiculous.
                                         
                                        I know I told the story in Toronto Mike before.
                                         
                                        I'm going to tell it again real quickly.
                                         
                                        But in here, of course, this song, which I know Bobolite also a big fan.
                                         
                                        But I'll tell you why it's profound to me.
                                         
                                        But there's a reference to the Gatlin Boys.
                                         
                                        There was three of them.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        It was long, like, believed that that was a reference to the Gatlin brothers, okay?
                                         
                                        And there was a tension, like a feud.
                                         
                                        We're talking like Tupac and Biggie Smalls here.
                                         
                                        There was a feud between the Gatlins and Kenny Rogers.
                                         
                                        But then Rogers went on the record to say he was unaware of the connection.
                                         
                                        And if he had no one about that connection, he would have asked for that lyric to be changed because he didn't write those lyrics.
                                         
                                        But Gatlin himself later claimed in an interview, Larry Gatlin, I'm speaking of.
                                         
    
                                        He said in an interview that Roger Bowling, who wrote this song,
                                         
                                        held a personal grudge against him for unknown reasons.
                                         
                                        And Gatlin stated that when Bowling won song of the year for Lucille,
                                         
                                        in 1977 at the CMA Awards, the country music awards,
                                         
                                        Gatlin approached Bowling to congratulate him.
                                         
                                        And Bowling said, fuck you, Gatlin.
                                         
                                        I love it.
                                         
                                        So he thinks that's why bowling put in a reference to the,
                                         
    
                                        the Gatlin brothers.
                                         
                                        Oh, cool.
                                         
                                        And I think I've told you guys, you need to Google
                                         
                                        Norm MacDonald talking about
                                         
                                        the Coward of the County.
                                         
                                        Really? He was on a podcast talking about
                                         
                                        it, and it's so hilarious.
                                         
                                        So do you want to hear a song
                                         
    
                                        previously written by Bowling
                                         
                                        that might remind you of Coward of the County?
                                         
                                        But this song is
                                         
                                        by an artist named Billy Joe
                                         
                                        Spears.
                                         
                                        Any of you too familiar with Billy Joe
                                         
                                        Spears? No.
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
    
                                        So give it a moment.
                                         
                                        That big old moon is shining down.
                                         
                                        Roger Bowling wrote this.
                                         
                                        And I listened to it a couple of times.
                                         
                                        It's called Blanket on the Ground.
                                         
                                        And this song is all about basically this woman is trying to get her husband to fuck her outside in the under the moonlight.
                                         
                                        Like, let's fuck outdoors.
                                         
                                        That's what the song is about.
                                         
    
                                        So I guess they're like middle-aged couple and, uh,
                                         
                                        Blanket on the ground.
                                         
                                        She wants to make love in the green light, okay?
                                         
                                        I love this song already.
                                         
                                        Just the fucking best.
                                         
                                        That's great.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Corny milk.
                                         
    
                                        She just like, let's do it outside.
                                         
                                        He's like, yeah, we're married, but we're not dead.
                                         
                                        So he wrote this, though.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so Roger Bowling wrote this.
                                         
                                        He's the guy who wrote, Howard the County.
                                         
                                        So growing up, I had no older siblings.
                                         
                                        I don't remember, like, I actually don't remember a lot of music around.
                                         
                                        I know I had these great, these golden oldies cassettes,
                                         
    
                                        and I had a big funness for, like, 50s and early 60s.
                                         
                                        early rock stuff.
                                         
                                        And then I remember hearing a certain Kenny Rogers album,
                                         
                                        like a greatest hits.
                                         
                                        My mom would play it over and over again.
                                         
                                        Like it was the only,
                                         
                                        really the only album I remember her playing.
                                         
                                        It's kind of weird to talk about this.
                                         
    
                                        I talked about this when Kenny Rogers died.
                                         
                                        I phoned her up and I talked about it.
                                         
                                        But in a nutshell,
                                         
                                        I would hear this greatest hits by Kenny Rogers,
                                         
                                        and I actually started to really like the songs,
                                         
                                        like Lucille's on there and Gambler and,
                                         
                                        Lady, the
                                         
                                        Lion of Ritchie song there.
                                         
    
                                        But Coward of the County was the song
                                         
                                        I liked the most because I like the story.
                                         
                                        This is a wild story.
                                         
                                        It's like his dad says don't fight.
                                         
                                        Then he has to fight.
                                         
                                        It's like sometimes you've got to fight to be a man.
                                         
                                        I just thought it was a rad story
                                         
                                        and I loved Coward of the County.
                                         
    
                                        So perhaps hearing
                                         
                                        Coward of the County all the time as a young boy
                                         
                                        helped me fall in love with music
                                         
                                        because I've been in love with music ever since.
                                         
                                        And these kind of storytelling songs, once you like one, then you're open to the possibility of enjoying so many different ones.
                                         
                                        How come country music never took for me?
                                         
                                        Like, I never really got into country.
                                         
                                        I just like, do you ever like the Eagles?
                                         
    
                                        Not like, I don't think I've ever purposefully purchased a piece of media that had Eagles songs.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Because they're, you know, like in the 70s, it was a little more fluid as far as the genres went anyways.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You would call it country rock, but it was still pop or whatever.
                                         
                                        And it didn't need to be defined so well.
                                         
                                        but if there was a good story to it
                                         
                                        like these kind of songs
                                         
    
                                        then you think
                                         
                                        well it sounds
                                         
                                        but they would cross over
                                         
                                        Eddie Rabbit
                                         
                                        would be one with like
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        like those are the songs
                                         
                                        that would yeah
                                         
    
                                        Heartache tonight
                                         
                                        is a very country sounding
                                         
                                        Eagle song
                                         
                                        no things were crossing over
                                         
                                        all the time
                                         
                                        and that's my
                                         
                                        see my grandparents
                                         
                                        were huge country fans
                                         
    
                                        I have so much classic
                                         
                                        and Ray Stevens
                                         
                                        with the street
                                         
                                        he's a country
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        that whole idea of telling
                                         
                                        a funny story
                                         
                                        song is only a country song
                                         
    
                                        because there's some like
                                         
                                        hicks in it right
                                         
                                        you know but Ray Stevens
                                         
                                        is a country artist
                                         
                                        he did a real country kind of stuff
                                         
                                        as well
                                         
                                        know enough about Ray Stevens.
                                         
                                        I don't think any of us know enough about
                                         
    
                                        he wrote a great...
                                         
                                        He had a beautiful song called Everything in people.
                                         
                                        But why do we call him Weird Ray Stevens?
                                         
                                        That's true.
                                         
                                        He's not as weird as Al.
                                         
                                        Who can name this artist?
                                         
                                        This lady saw?
                                         
                                        It's his sister Nancy.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Give it a moment here.
                                         
                                        This is cool, why too, why too that the
                                         
                                        Rocky Road?
                                         
                                        Right to right to right to do.
                                         
                                        This is cool, actually.
                                         
                                        This is really good.
                                         
                                        And he said, Tom was all the ten.
                                         
    
                                        When his father died in prison,
                                         
                                        all of his auntie, his mother, bigger sister, old man.
                                         
                                        His daddy said, promise me son, never to do.
                                         
                                        The thing said, Daddy.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Walk away from trouble if you can.
                                         
                                        All of a sudden she's got a southern accent, right?
                                         
                                        Be on a cheek, someday you've got a girl to be a man.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Past the Dutchie.
                                         
                                        Exactly what I was thinking to.
                                         
                                        Sister Nancy, everybody.
                                         
                                        What years that from?
                                         
                                        82.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
    
                                        It's cool.
                                         
                                        And it's called Coward of the County.
                                         
                                        Oh, sorry.
                                         
                                        She calls it Coward of the Country.
                                         
                                        But you can hear some Coward of the County in there, absolutely.
                                         
                                        Okay, Bob Willett.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        You chose this topic.
                                         
    
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        maybe during my next song
                                         
                                        I'll explain some of my struggles
                                         
                                        with this topic
                                         
                                        but let's hear from you and my friend
                                         
                                        Oh you were during your next song
                                         
                                        I was okay so for me
                                         
                                        when this hit me
                                         
    
                                        it was the idea of
                                         
                                        songs that had a profound impact on me
                                         
                                        but the first thing that I thought about
                                         
                                        what are songs that I've listened to a ton
                                         
                                        like I have that ADHD thing
                                         
                                        where I can listen to a song over and over and over again
                                         
                                        like just hit repeat hit repeat
                                         
                                        I remember when we got our very first CD player
                                         
    
                                        and it was
                                         
                                        You put it in upside down, but it had a repeat, all in a repeat one.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        And I loved the repeat one.
                                         
                                        Right, right.
                                         
                                        He even had an A-B repeat.
                                         
                                        You got actually make a little...
                                         
                                        They were the same.
                                         
    
                                        I had the live version of Billy Idol singing Moni-Money.
                                         
                                        But it was a live version.
                                         
                                        I had a 45 of it, and I recorded it to a cassette because I would walk to school and back.
                                         
                                        But I put the same song over and over and over again.
                                         
                                        So the mix was just Billy Idol's live version of Moni-Money over and over again.
                                         
                                        I did the same thing once with a tape and I made an Al-Dro's song over and over.
                                         
                                        I used to run to it and it was the perfect tempo
                                         
                                        for running up. Yeah. Yeah. So
                                         
    
                                        I, and I purposefully
                                         
                                        wanted to do songs that I've
                                         
                                        never kicked out before. Because
                                         
                                        I know we've said that before because there's
                                         
                                        lots of songs that I've talked about, but I have to start
                                         
                                        with the band that everybody's expecting me to play.
                                         
                                        I love this song.
                                         
                                        Fucking wonderful song, Bobby.
                                         
    
                                        Also in my wedding.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        The second wedding.
                                         
                                        Okay, I assumed.
                                         
                                        Yes, I understand that every life must be end.
                                         
                                        As we sit alone, I know someday we must go on.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm a lucky man to count on both hands, the ones I love.
                                         
                                        Favorite lyric.
                                         
    
                                        Some folks just have fun, yeah, they got not home.
                                         
                                        Stay with me, oh, let's just breathe.
                                         
                                        Summer sin's never going to let me win.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        Under everything,
                                         
                                        just another human in all.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't want to hurt.
                                         
                                        There's so much in this world to make me breathe up.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know how long you want to listen to?
                                         
                                        All of it.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        It's beautiful.
                                         
                                        Yes, this is Just Breathe.
                                         
                                        by Pearl Jam
                                         
                                        really it's Eddie Vedder's song
                                         
                                        and the guys played around it
                                         
    
                                        I remember hearing this song
                                         
                                        now obviously I've been moved
                                         
                                        emotionally by Pearl Jam
                                         
                                        songs of my entire as long as I've heard Pearl Jam
                                         
                                        I thought when I heard this
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        in my head I'm like they don't have any right
                                         
                                        still making music like this after 20 years
                                         
    
                                        like it's 2009
                                         
                                        they've been together since 91 90 91
                                         
                                        and I'm like
                                         
                                        bands don't get to don't bands traditionally don't write music this good this far into their career together
                                         
                                        they don't they're just you know like you could say you know rolling stone steel wheels fine but it's not
                                         
                                        great right nothing they've done and this to me is a great song i think it's objectively a great song
                                         
                                        even if you don't like it like pearl jam this is an objectively great song it's the lyrics are
                                         
                                        emotional the production's amazing um i just and it's and so it started off eddie better
                                         
    
                                        scored, like did some scoring on
                                         
                                        the End of the Wild soundtrack,
                                         
                                        the movie. And
                                         
                                        that movie, I think, is a beautiful movie.
                                         
                                        I like that movie very much.
                                         
                                        So I actually, my bonus
                                         
                                        is a scene.
                                         
                                        It's a very short scene,
                                         
    
                                        but I think, I don't know if he won
                                         
                                        the Academy Award
                                         
                                        for Best Supporting Actor, but
                                         
                                        Hal Holbrook is an older, is an actor.
                                         
                                        And he has a scene in there, and
                                         
                                        it is the one of the most powerful.
                                         
                                        He didn't win. He didn't win, you're right.
                                         
                                        Into the
                                         
    
                                        In The Wild?
                                         
                                        And Hal Holbrook has a scene in it with the kid who plays the main.
                                         
                                        And it is one of the most...
                                         
                                        I'm going to spoil it right now if you've never seen it.
                                         
                                        But it is one of the most powerful scenes I've ever seen it on film in my life.
                                         
                                        I beat you on the other side.
                                         
                                        Ooh, good timing.
                                         
                                        I had an idea.
                                         
    
                                        You know, my mother was an only child.
                                         
                                        And so was my father.
                                         
                                        And I was their only child.
                                         
                                        So when I'm gone, I'm the end of the line.
                                         
                                        My family will be finished.
                                         
                                        What do you say?
                                         
                                        You let me adopt you.
                                         
                                        I could be
                                         
    
                                        say your grandfather
                                         
                                        Can we
                                         
                                        Could we talk about this
                                         
                                        When I get back from Alaska
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        Talk about it now
                                         
                                        I
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
    
                                        That's
                                         
                                        I wanted to kill the kid
                                         
                                        when he fucking said that in that movie.
                                         
                                        I was so,
                                         
                                        Hal Holbrook,
                                         
                                        it's,
                                         
                                        again,
                                         
                                        it's quiet acting.
                                         
    
                                        It's that,
                                         
                                        it's that type of in,
                                         
                                        you don't,
                                         
                                        it's not theater,
                                         
                                        it's not,
                                         
                                        but it's,
                                         
                                        it's up close.
                                         
                                        And he just,
                                         
    
                                        you see his eyes well up,
                                         
                                        but not in a,
                                         
                                        any bullshit way.
                                         
                                        It's just,
                                         
                                        there's,
                                         
                                        it moved me so much to have that come from this,
                                         
                                        this song comes from that same,
                                         
                                        same movie.
                                         
    
                                        And I,
                                         
                                        just for me,
                                         
                                        that's one of the best piece of acting.
                                         
                                        So that acting is very good.
                                         
                                        It reminds me of acting you would get from somebody like Richard
                                         
                                        Farnsworth.
                                         
                                        okay so you'll see that kind of quiet acting
                                         
                                        I know exactly what you're talking about Bob
                                         
    
                                        you see it in the natural and then he did this
                                         
                                        he had a rider mower
                                         
                                        and he had to ride it into
                                         
                                        I can't remember the name of it
                                         
                                        you know coming to minute but Richard Farnsworth
                                         
                                        shout out to Ridley funeral home
                                         
                                        but Hal I think Hell's passed away too
                                         
                                        is a shadow to Ridley funeral yeah he was a quiet
                                         
    
                                        I'd see him and I want to say he's a very character actor
                                         
                                        I was not a I didn't know him until the movie
                                         
                                        and then you find out oh okay cool like you guys
                                         
                                        but what is designing women wasn't he a
                                         
                                        regular and designing woman.
                                         
                                        Hal Holbrook?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
    
                                        I think he married.
                                         
                                        When you look at him,
                                         
                                        yeah, he's a comedic actor.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        He was more of a comedic actor.
                                         
                                        And when you see him, you're like, oh, okay.
                                         
                                        But it was unbelievable.
                                         
                                        He was,
                                         
    
                                        he had a one-man stage show.
                                         
                                        Mark Twain.
                                         
                                        It was all about,
                                         
                                        that's where I know him.
                                         
                                        Samuel,
                                         
                                        yes.
                                         
                                        Twain tonight or something.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, it won the Tony.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Anyways, he, for me is just, like,
                                         
                                        that's some of the best acting I've ever seen in my life.
                                         
                                        That's cool.
                                         
                                        He lived in 95.
                                         
                                        Good on him.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
    
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        by the way.
                                         
                                        So that is a song
                                         
                                        that I will just now
                                         
                                        in any day
                                         
                                        put on and listen to it
                                         
                                        over and over again.
                                         
                                        You know how I know
                                         
    
                                        that song?
                                         
                                        I did a gig
                                         
                                        in 2013 with
                                         
                                        Kristen Miliotti
                                         
                                        who was,
                                         
                                        she just won an Emmy Award
                                         
                                        for the Penguin.
                                         
                                        I asked you to get her
                                         
    
                                        on Toronto mic.
                                         
                                        I guess I'll get her on.
                                         
                                        Yes,
                                         
                                        of course.
                                         
                                        She just won an Emmy Award.
                                         
                                        How I met your mother.
                                         
                                        She's the mother.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she's the mother.
                                         
    
                                        But anyway,
                                         
                                        I played bass in her band.
                                         
                                        We did a couple of gigs
                                         
                                        in New York.
                                         
                                        We played at Lincoln Center.
                                         
                                        She was in the Penguin.
                                         
                                        She was in the Penguin.
                                         
                                        and yeah. Oh wow. Um, but she did this song. She did just breathe. Oh, wow. And so I didn't know the song. She covered it. She did a beautiful, I'm going to find a recording of it. I'm going to send it to you. Because you weren't at my wedding. Rob, if you were at my wedding, you would have heard this song. By the way, I didn't know, I didn't know how Holbrook. I mean, I've seen stuff. I didn't realize. Like, he was a, he was deep throat and all the president's men. He was on the north. He was on, uh, he was on the north. He was in Wall Street. Yeah, he played the north. Um, he was in Wall Street. He's a character actor. And that, that, that bit, bit of acting. And that bit of acting. He was, he was in. He was a bit of acting. And that bit of acting. And that bit of act. And that
                                         
    
                                        is some of the, yeah, anyways, it's just, I, like I said, for me, I'm one of those people,
                                         
                                        the hair stands up on your neck and you get chills. I get chills with everything I'm doing.
                                         
                                        What's profound, like, what's interesting when you describe this topic, I have a friend
                                         
                                        named Brent Jensen, who is a good friend of Blair Packham. I met him at Blair's house.
                                         
                                        Did you mean him? So he's got a podcast called No Sleep to Sudbury, and the tagline for his
                                         
                                        show is music that makes your skin vibrate. There you go. And he gets guests on who pick like five
                                         
                                        songs that are super meaningful and it's the same kind of thing. But I love that. It's, you get that
                                         
                                        feeling right. And so for me,
                                         
    
                                        there's so many levels to why I
                                         
                                        love that song.
                                         
                                        And that acting is part of it. But
                                         
                                        again, the song itself is beautiful.
                                         
                                        The instrumentation, Eddie's lyrics
                                         
                                        and the production. And then on top of that,
                                         
                                        like I said, you shouldn't be
                                         
                                        writing stuff that good that, you know.
                                         
    
                                        I agree 100% with everything
                                         
                                        Bob Willett just said. I never
                                         
                                        say that on top. No, it's true. It's that to do. Write it
                                         
                                        down. Oh, so on the live stream, I want to
                                         
                                        shout out people who are there really quickly.
                                         
                                        I want to shout out Moose Grumpy.
                                         
                                        who's there. It's always good to see Moose. I saw her at TMLX20.
                                         
                                        I didn't see either of you, but I saw Moose Company, so I was happy.
                                         
    
                                        She tells me the lawnmower Richard Farnsworth movie that really affected me was called The Straight Story.
                                         
                                        So find your local Stella Plex server and find the straight story.
                                         
                                        Richard Farnsworth, who I just revisited the natural when Robert Redford died.
                                         
                                        So he's great in that, too, of course.
                                         
                                        VPSA tells me because I was going there, but, um...
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        where is it here?
                                         
                                        Hal Holbrook was married to Dixie Carter, yes.
                                         
    
                                        I remember Hall Holbrook from, I used to watch
                                         
                                        a lot of designing women and
                                         
                                        yeah, married to Dixie Carter.
                                         
                                        And he goes, any designing women talk
                                         
                                        makes me think of looks like it's Splitsville
                                         
                                        for Delta Burke and Major Dad, which was a
                                         
                                        very funny Simpsons line.
                                         
                                        I also loved, but also fun fact,
                                         
    
                                        they're still together. Major Dad and
                                         
                                        Delta Berg here. Mike says
                                         
                                        Hal Holbrook was in the classic
                                         
                                        TVM that
                                         
                                        certain summer, TV movie, that
                                         
                                        certain summer. I'm doing the math here. Vetter's
                                         
                                        Hard Sun. So yeah, that's a great
                                         
                                        debate to have. I like the original
                                         
    
                                        I feel like, is it Joni Mitchell doing
                                         
                                        backups on the original Hard Sun?
                                         
                                        I don't know. Because that's Indio.
                                         
                                        I'm doing this off the top of the lid here, but this
                                         
                                        is an artist, a Toronto singer, I believe,
                                         
                                        who went by the name Indio. Hard Sun
                                         
                                        was all over, I mean, CanCon and everything, was all
                                         
                                        over our radio. And I remember
                                         
    
                                        background vocals, and I thought it was
                                         
                                        Joni Mitchell. Somebody can fact check that for me.
                                         
                                        Richard Farnsworth will always
                                         
                                        be Matthew from Anne of Green Gables.
                                         
                                        I'm just looking that up.
                                         
                                        I did not know that I just watched that with my
                                         
                                        daughters. He's got the blue eyes.
                                         
                                        And that's Richard Farnsworth?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, that's Richard Farnsworth. I remember this too.
                                         
                                        Laura and I have been going on about how good
                                         
                                        Matthew was. I didn't even, and we both love
                                         
                                        that. I got to blow my, that's
                                         
                                        a mind blow to me right now. Thank you very much.
                                         
                                        So hello again to Canada Kev
                                         
                                        who says better's hard son is better
                                         
                                        than the original. That's to be debated. They're both
                                         
    
                                        good. Leslieville. Of course, we've talked to
                                         
                                        Leslie. I am Frank.
                                         
                                        Frank, good to see out here.
                                         
                                        Come out to an event.
                                         
                                        I don't think I've met you.
                                         
                                        Chacha, is that how she's pronouncing this?
                                         
                                        We know who she is.
                                         
                                        I've met her.
                                         
    
                                        She came to a TMLX event.
                                         
                                        Some guy named, I was going to say,
                                         
                                        Burlington Rob and Bob's basement.
                                         
                                        Those guys are her.
                                         
                                        Andy was great to see you at TMLX20 last week.
                                         
                                        It was always great to see you.
                                         
                                        VP of Sales, I'll see you Friday.
                                         
                                        Y Y, YZ Gord, who showed me a photo.
                                         
    
                                        He was climbing mountains and shit,
                                         
                                        and he still found a way to join the live stream.
                                         
                                        It was good to see you.
                                         
                                        Gord and Tom at TMLX20.
                                         
                                        Hope to see everybody at TMLX21.
                                         
                                        Let me get to, is it my turn?
                                         
                                        Where are we? No, it's your turn, Rob.
                                         
                                        Set up your second jam.
                                         
    
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Second jam, it's a very meaningful song to me
                                         
                                        and it had a profound influence on my life.
                                         
                                        Really? That is the topic of the day.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And you can just play it.
                                         
                                        See how long it takes me to name it.
                                         
                                        classical piece, no?
                                         
    
                                        No, but he likes piano.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        I thought it might have been out of the time like.
                                         
                                        I thought it would be Ben Folds or something.
                                         
                                        Is there lyrics in this song?
                                         
                                        Mm-hmm.
                                         
                                        Because I don't know this song.
                                         
                                        Rob's more culture than Bob and I.
                                         
    
                                        Could I ever explain this feeling of love?
                                         
                                        It just lingers on the fear in my heart that keeps telling me which way to tell.
                                         
                                        Why a wonder a bit, how close they are wet, you shout from the rain, long in the
                                         
                                        Places we know it can hide.
                                         
                                        The width of a road that can hold so much pleasure inside.
                                         
                                        You are my alone again.
                                         
                                        A quiet town where life is in.
                                         
                                        Here am I just wondering.
                                         
    
                                        Night port is gone.
                                         
                                        Night port is up away.
                                         
                                        Very good.
                                         
                                        It's a song called Night Porter.
                                         
                                        Thanks for saying very good.
                                         
                                        It means a lot.
                                         
                                        It's by the band Japan.
                                         
                                        It's beautiful.
                                         
    
                                        It's beautiful.
                                         
                                        This was a side two song on their album called Gentleman Take Polaroids, which came out in 1980.
                                         
                                        And I had this on a mixtape.
                                         
                                        So for me, what becomes a profound image with this song is like driving in my car.
                                         
                                        I had a Volkswagen bug
                                         
                                        and I was 16
                                         
                                        turning 17
                                         
                                        and my first feeling
                                         
    
                                        of independence
                                         
                                        and I made a mix tape
                                         
                                        of like all this music
                                         
                                        I fucking loved
                                         
                                        so there was
                                         
                                        an Elton John
                                         
                                        Blue Eyes was on the radio
                                         
                                        at the time
                                         
    
                                        this was by like
                                         
                                        81, 82
                                         
                                        This would have been a CFNY jam
                                         
                                        This was totally
                                         
                                        CFN Y jam
                                         
                                        Was it on the radio?
                                         
                                        You said it's a B side
                                         
                                        No, it was on side
                                         
    
                                        two of the album
                                         
                                        And it was released
                                         
                                        as a single later
                                         
                                        but I just knew it
                                         
                                        as the song on the record
                                         
                                        that I loved
                                         
                                        because there was piano
                                         
                                        and I was taking piano lessons
                                         
    
                                        at the time
                                         
                                        and I was learning music
                                         
                                        by this French composer named Eric Sati,
                                         
                                        and this music was sort of inspired by him.
                                         
                                        And Gary Newman had also done a piano song,
                                         
                                        a cover of an Eric Sati song, actually,
                                         
                                        on the B side of a single.
                                         
                                        So all my worlds were, like, colliding at this time.
                                         
    
                                        And I was in the spoons,
                                         
                                        and we were recording,
                                         
                                        and we had recorded a song,
                                         
                                        an album with the producer of this song.
                                         
                                        So John Punter was our producer,
                                         
                                        and he produced a couple of albums for Japan.
                                         
                                        So I would listen to Japan and think,
                                         
                                        oh, my God, we're going to work with this guy
                                         
    
                                        who's worked with this cool band.
                                         
                                        So this song always takes me back,
                                         
                                        to like my cassette tape in my car driving
                                         
                                        and my first feeling of like independence
                                         
                                        in my life like doing shit
                                         
                                        I really love to do.
                                         
                                        It's amazing.
                                         
                                        It's a really good song.
                                         
    
                                        So it's interesting.
                                         
                                        It was originally on gentlemen take Polaroids,
                                         
                                        but then it was remixed and releases a single in 82.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they released a weird,
                                         
                                        they sort of did a weird remix of it
                                         
                                        that I never really liked as much as this.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        This is much more like, like,
                                         
    
                                        thoughtful with the piano and the oboe and stuff.
                                         
                                        But then they did it later again.
                                         
                                        But yeah, it's just for me,
                                         
                                        it's one of those songs where
                                         
                                        when I listen to it, I'm there.
                                         
                                        I'm like somewhere in my life.
                                         
                                        It immediately brings you back to that moment.
                                         
                                        Totally.
                                         
    
                                        But especially because of a stupid cassette,
                                         
                                        like I had it on the beginning of this cassette tape
                                         
                                        and it was always married to this
                                         
                                        Elton John song, Blue Eyes.
                                         
                                        Those two always go together.
                                         
                                        It's so funny.
                                         
                                        It's great.
                                         
                                        I remember stories from David Marston,
                                         
    
                                        for example, where
                                         
                                        Japan would come to Brampton
                                         
                                        and they would go to eat with Japan or whatever.
                                         
                                        A band I really know nothing about
                                         
                                        except that the CFNY guys from back in the day
                                         
                                        were big fans.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they really were.
                                         
                                        And they never had huge success.
                                         
    
                                        And then they broke up like after they made like their third or fourth album.
                                         
                                        They came to Toronto once.
                                         
                                        They played a Ryerson college or whatever in the auditorium there.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        It was a polytechnical instance.
                                         
                                        It was a polytechnical.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        But they did like one or two nights there.
                                         
    
                                        And it's like in one of those infamous Toronto stories for people who know Japan.
                                         
                                        They're like, oh my God.
                                         
                                        actually came to Toronto and played.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And it was one of those things where if you were there,
                                         
                                        it's like the police at the horseshoe, you know?
                                         
                                        Well, yeah, 100,000s are people who are pleased at the horsesho.
                                         
                                        Exactly.
                                         
    
                                        Now, okay, so this band's called Japan.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, and I'm thinking there's a band called Asia.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        There's a band called Europe.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        There's a band called Toronto.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
    
                                        We should be kicking out bands named after geographical locations.
                                         
                                        China Crisis.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        China Crisis.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        Kansas.
                                         
                                        There was a band called Kansas.
                                         
                                        There was a band called America.
                                         
    
                                        There was an America.
                                         
                                        Yes, there was an America.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that was the Neil Young impersonator.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        Been through the desert.
                                         
                                        Produced by George Martin.
                                         
                                        Wow, okay, I didn't know that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I just know when I was a kid, it sounded like Neil Young.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, wow.
                                         
                                        That's great.
                                         
                                        Obo.
                                         
                                        Is that an obo?
                                         
                                        Obo in there, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
    
                                        So for me, like as a teenager,
                                         
                                        because I was playing piano at the same time,
                                         
                                        like as loving pop music and being in a band and stuff,
                                         
                                        I feel so fortunate to have been able to really appreciate this kind of stuff as well.
                                         
                                        I love music that's more like thoughtful.
                                         
                                        But I mean, that pro jam song you played, it gives me that same vibe.
                                         
                                        There's something just about beautiful songs like that, you know?
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
    
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Well, see, that's profound.
                                         
                                        How to profound affect.
                                         
                                        So this topic, as I hear this unravel here, it's the pro and con is the same thing to me.
                                         
                                        Like the, what's good about it is we all have to get personal and share stuff from like our own personal lives inside or whatever.
                                         
                                        But that's also the reason I don't love it is because I feel like, oh, how do you?
                                         
                                        does that apply to the masses like it's like when you're kicking out i know so exactly why they listen
                                         
                                        here so the pro and con are the same thing well the secret but the secrets to creating art is that the
                                         
    
                                        personal becomes universal and sometimes you have to think you have to be very selfish in a way and
                                         
                                        think of yourself well and if i may as somebody who works in you may if i may in uh if somebody who works
                                         
                                        in an industry that has forgotten that it's the personalities it's the it's the stories that people care
                                         
                                        about you have every goddamn song in the world in your pocket so people
                                         
                                        aren't going to listen to us, even when you're giving a song, a topic that we're picking
                                         
                                        songs, you've told Rob he can't pick songs that he just found out about. So you're,
                                         
                                        that's right. You already, you already told him. It has to be something. This is totally the
                                         
                                        opposite. Yeah. So like, so that, like, you did tell him that. So people are listening. So we do
                                         
    
                                        tell those stories. Right. So you're just being a whiny bitch. No, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm not
                                         
                                        being a whiny bitch, Bob Willett. I am now, it's just a challenge. It's a hard challenge.
                                         
                                        I'm speaking to the reason I didn't love this topic. And,
                                         
                                        You're not.
                                         
                                        It's okay.
                                         
                                        Sometimes I am a whiny bitch.
                                         
                                        But I'm now going to kick out a song.
                                         
                                        I feel like it's funny that I'm the one of this three of us
                                         
    
                                        who are going to kick out this song.
                                         
                                        But I'm kicking out a song that I actually never seek out
                                         
                                        and I haven't sought out in decades.
                                         
                                        Suck it out.
                                         
                                        It's sought out, right?
                                         
                                        So because it's going to, maybe this will be part of the story.
                                         
                                        Maybe I'll just start playing the song.
                                         
                                        Everyone's heard a thousand times, maybe a million.
                                         
    
                                        And then I'll bring it down and tell my story.
                                         
                                        But this is what I'm kicking out, Rob Pruse.
                                         
                                        Happy birthday, Rob.
                                         
                                        Come on.
                                         
                                        That's why I thought we might all kick out the same song.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        I could have kicked out that Pearl Jam song.
                                         
                                        It was in my wedding.
                                         
    
                                        Open your eyes.
                                         
                                        Look up to the skies and see.
                                         
                                        I'm going to play one minute.
                                         
                                        Because I'm easy come, easy go
                                         
                                        Little high, little low
                                         
                                        Any way the wind goes
                                         
                                        Doesn't really matter to me
                                         
                                        To me
                                         
    
                                        Okay everybody's heard bohemian rhapsody, okay?
                                         
                                        You probably heard it this week
                                         
                                        Okay, geez
                                         
                                        All right, it's funny, I've never purposefully sought it out
                                         
                                        but I feel I hear it all the time.
                                         
                                        It's just a song that's like in the zeitgeist.
                                         
                                        It's always around.
                                         
                                        Bohemian Rhapsody.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, you played the Muppets version recently.
                                         
                                        I did last time, actually.
                                         
                                        I feel like we kick out Bohemian Rhapsody every second episode of Toast or something like here.
                                         
                                        Okay, so a little bit about Bohemian Rhapsody, and then I'll personalize it and then a little bit of info for everybody.
                                         
                                        Stuff that you should know, you don't know, because I didn't know.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        This is a band called Queen.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
    
                                        This is the lead single from Queen's fourth.
                                         
                                        studio album, it was called, and
                                         
                                        Rob's like, we know all this, but I'm telling
                                         
                                        people, like Levee Fumka, who don't know all this.
                                         
                                        I actually, Leve Fumka, I was introducing
                                         
                                        her to somebody who was at that event last
                                         
                                        week, TMLX20, whose name is Rida.
                                         
                                        And I said to Live A Fumpka, I said,
                                         
    
                                        this is Rita, lovely Rita meter maid.
                                         
                                        And Levee Fumka looked at me
                                         
                                        like I was talking a different language.
                                         
                                        And I looked at her, and she looked
                                         
                                        at me like, what words are you saying?
                                         
                                        I'm like, you know, lovely Rita, meter maid.
                                         
                                        So that was new to her.
                                         
                                        Wow. So I'm just no longer making
                                         
    
                                        assumptions. Okay. The album's called
                                         
                                        A Night at the Opera. It came out
                                         
                                        in 1975.
                                         
                                        Did you buy this vinyl
                                         
                                        raw proofs? You better fucking
                                         
                                        believe it. So you bought this alongside
                                         
                                        Santa Chaz? Yeah.
                                         
                                        And I went to, first I went to buy the 45.
                                         
    
                                        I got the 45
                                         
                                        as well as the album. I'll bet.
                                         
                                        I'll bet. 10 years old. I'll bet.
                                         
                                        Okay. Freddie Mercury wrote this.
                                         
                                        It's like five, almost
                                         
                                        six minutes. It's like five
                                         
                                        minutes and 55 seconds. How many key
                                         
                                        changes? Are there
                                         
    
                                        like how many key changes? How many
                                         
                                        tempo changes?
                                         
                                        I'll talk about how I discovered
                                         
                                        what it meant to me, but what I think I liked about
                                         
                                        it, and Freddie Mercury went on the record
                                         
                                        to say that it's three songs. He wanted to put out
                                         
                                        three songs, and he just put them together.
                                         
                                        Like this is three songs. You've got
                                         
    
                                        this ballad at the beginning. You've got
                                         
                                        this rock thing, and you've got this
                                         
                                        like opera. Sort of what the Beatles used to do, right, when they
                                         
                                        would just mash shit together at the end of like
                                         
                                        like they just do that. Abby Rhodes. Yes, exactly.
                                         
                                        He just, yeah.
                                         
                                        Here comes part two.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so...
                                         
    
                                        All of a sudden, it's a new song.
                                         
                                        And I know that Rob proves to share this fun fact on toast,
                                         
                                        but I'm going to do it again in case somebody didn't hear it.
                                         
                                        This song was originally titled, Mongolian Rhapsody.
                                         
                                        Mongolian Rhapsody, I think it's good that they changed it.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I think Bohemian Rhapsody.
                                         
                                        But this was called Mongolian Rhapsody, three songs stuck together that Freddie Mercury made.
                                         
    
                                        Roger Taylor, a side note, fun fact,
                                         
                                        Roger Taylor, the drummer, is actually singing the real high parts in this.
                                         
                                        And not.
                                         
                                        And not Freddie.
                                         
                                        Like, he just did all the high Galileo's.
                                         
                                        And at the very end of this section, when he goes, for me, for me, for me, the highest for me is Roger Taylor.
                                         
                                        You'll enjoy how high it is.
                                         
                                        It's ridiculous.
                                         
    
                                        Rob, what does this mean?
                                         
                                        I was reading that they had to bounce the tracks across eight generations of 24 track tape.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Because they had 200 tracks of overdubs to make.
                                         
                                        This song was quite the effort.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Because when you're recording the tracks, you've got to mix things together onto new tracks.
                                         
                                        to leave room.
                                         
    
                                        Okay,
                                         
                                        here comes the for me's.
                                         
                                        Wait, listen,
                                         
                                        here comes.
                                         
                                        Roger.
                                         
                                        Here goes.
                                         
                                        For me.
                                         
                                        For me.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Beautiful.
                                         
                                        Beautiful.
                                         
                                        May I do,
                                         
                                        I feel like I wish I had heard a podcast that did this,
                                         
                                        because we've all heard this song thousands of times.
                                         
                                        This song is everyone,
                                         
                                        unless you hate fucking music.
                                         
    
                                        You've heard this thousands of times.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Pre-Wain's world,
                                         
                                        with Wayne's World.
                                         
                                        the just it's everywhere but there's references and I just want to like tell people what these
                                         
                                        mean because we all sing along to it we all know these words I'm not sure we all know what
                                         
                                        these words mean okay so you're ready to play a little bit of like a little trivia so people
                                         
                                        can seem smarter yeah time they hear the song they can tell their friend what it means
                                         
    
                                        okay so scaramouche do you guys know what's scaramouche it's a restaurant in yorkville
                                         
                                        what is what is that restaurant call scaramush yeah scatabush
                                         
                                        Scada bush is like a jack asterist kind of place
                                         
                                        Scaramush. There's a Scaramooch in Sherway.
                                         
                                        Scaramush, okay.
                                         
                                        Scaramush is on your...
                                         
                                        Rob, Bob, do you know what's...
                                         
                                        Who's Scaramooch?
                                         
    
                                        I think it's a dance, isn't it?
                                         
                                        No, good guess, though.
                                         
                                        Okay, so Scaramouche is a stock clown character
                                         
                                        from the 16th century Comedia del Arte.
                                         
                                        So it's a scaramush.
                                         
                                        That's a real word, this guy's saying, and it means something, okay?
                                         
                                        Will you do the Fandango?
                                         
                                        What is Fandango, Bob?
                                         
    
                                        That's a dance.
                                         
                                        That is a dance.
                                         
                                        That is a dance.
                                         
                                        partner dance that originated in Portugal
                                         
                                        and Spain. So we got Scaramouche
                                         
                                        Fandango. This one I think we all
                                         
                                        learned in school, but I don't want to make any assumptions.
                                         
                                        Maybe Lieve Fomke is going to learn right now.
                                         
    
                                        Who's Galileo?
                                         
                                        The philosopher?
                                         
                                        Astronomer?
                                         
                                        He, he, absolutely,
                                         
                                        astronomer is a correct answer, but he's also been called the father
                                         
                                        of modern era classical physics.
                                         
                                        He was also called the father of the scientific method,
                                         
                                        modern science. But his name
                                         
    
                                        is not actually Galileo Figaro.
                                         
                                        No, it's not. It's Galileo.
                                         
                                        He's the father of observational astronomy.
                                         
                                        The Catholic Church, fun fact, condemned Galileo because he asserted that the earth revolves around the sun.
                                         
                                        They were the original delusional denialists because he's like, look through the telescope.
                                         
                                        And they're like, we don't want to look through the telescope.
                                         
                                        We don't want to believe you.
                                         
                                        I met somebody for the first time, and I like this woman very much, and I enjoy conversations with her.
                                         
    
                                        But she's an actual flat earther.
                                         
                                        I've never met one in a while before.
                                         
                                        Seriously.
                                         
                                        Have you ever met an actual flat earther?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Maybe, but I don't know.
                                         
                                        Nobody that would say it out loud.
                                         
                                        And then when I would bring up some obvious things we know,
                                         
    
                                        there's answers to everything.
                                         
                                        And now she sends me, like, DMs me on Instagram.
                                         
                                        Oh, cool.
                                         
                                        Videos from wackos who are proving that the Earth is flat,
                                         
                                        which is a wild little thing.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Figuero, who is that guy?
                                         
                                        Figuero was a cat in Pinocchio.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, also a character from the Barber of Seville.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Marriage of Figuero and the guilty mothers.
                                         
                                        So this is a trilogy of plays that had the character Figuero on it.
                                         
                                        Interesting.
                                         
                                        And Bialzab, we probably all know this, but no assumptions.
                                         
                                        Bialzab is basically Satan.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And Bishmila, okay?
                                         
                                        Bishmila.
                                         
                                        God willing.
                                         
                                        What is that?
                                         
                                        It's an Islamic Arabic.
                                         
                                        See, you knew this, Rob.
                                         
                                        I did not know this until I did my research here.
                                         
                                        Bishmila is an Islamic phrase that means, in the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful.
                                         
    
                                        There's another phrase that they use that's inshallah, which means God willing.
                                         
                                        It's like, I mean, if you speak English and you say,
                                         
                                        God willing, it sounds okay, but if you say
                                         
                                        inshallah, people are afraid.
                                         
                                        So, okay, so we're going
                                         
                                        back to like the early 80s here. Let's go back to
                                         
                                        because I did not have a copy. I've never
                                         
                                        owned a copy of Night at the Opera.
                                         
    
                                        But there was a 1981
                                         
                                        Queen Greatest Hits album.
                                         
                                        And I was one night,
                                         
                                        there was a stereo in the living room and I was
                                         
                                        leafing through my father's record
                                         
                                        collection. And I found
                                         
                                        this 1981 Queen's greatest hits
                                         
                                        and I like the cover. And what I did is
                                         
    
                                        I just started playing all the songs. So I'm actually
                                         
                                        just going through both sides of, I can't remember if it was a double album or not,
                                         
                                        but whatever was on this, I think it was a single album.
                                         
                                        But I found this song, this is way before, way before Wayne's World, okay?
                                         
                                        So we're in 81 here.
                                         
                                        And I found this on Bohemian Rhapsody, and I had a record player in my room, too,
                                         
                                        because at Consumers Distributing, I had the double cassette thing and then a radio thing,
                                         
                                        and there was a record on the top or whatever.
                                         
    
                                        And I guess I was.
                                         
                                        What way did that retail for?
                                         
                                        Thank God it was in stock.
                                         
                                        It's true.
                                         
                                        You'd have to wait.
                                         
                                        It's amazing.
                                         
                                        It's amazing.
                                         
                                        It's filling out all that paperwork.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, in this consumer's distributing where I bought this, I think it was Citizen.
                                         
                                        think it's the person's right. Probably, yeah. I remember distinctly it being on Dundas. Maybe in my mind,
                                         
                                        I can remember it being like a little bit east of Jane on Dundas. So somewhere between
                                         
                                        Jane and Roneamy on Dundas Street West is when the consumer street of me was. But anyway,
                                         
                                        this song Bohemian Rhapsody blew my fucking mind. So it had a profound impact me in terms of my love
                                         
                                        of music because it felt like it was a bunch of songs put together to make one song.
                                         
                                        Yeah. And it was so exciting to me. Like I would get my brothers to listen. Listen to this song. I
                                         
                                        discovered. I didn't know what happened in
                                         
    
                                        1975. That's cool. Four and 74.
                                         
                                        But there's another song, a couple years, a few
                                         
                                        years later, several years later maybe.
                                         
                                        I'm working at the C&E, and there's an
                                         
                                        album they keep playing, which has a song on it.
                                         
                                        I'm just going to play some song, because when I heard this song,
                                         
                                        I liked it in the same way. And I
                                         
                                        consider these songs are like epics, basically.
                                         
    
                                        These are like epics. Behemian Rhapsody, and
                                         
                                        I'm not going to play much of it. But this
                                         
                                        song... Oh, yeah. Sure.
                                         
                                        I mentioned it. They almost kicked us out.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        It just kicked it out.
                                         
                                        Because we just
                                         
                                        spun bad out of the hell on a CD player at the
                                         
    
                                        1989 at the C&E.
                                         
                                        Did you? That's cool.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like it was on a repeat, I guess,
                                         
                                        hitting repeat, like Bob said.
                                         
                                        And this is the song where I was like breaking down
                                         
                                        the parts like I used to do a Bohemian Rhapsody.
                                         
                                        Yeah. So the 80s start with Bohemian Rhapsody
                                         
                                        and with Paradise by the Dashboard Light.
                                         
    
                                        And I fucking like loved.
                                         
                                        And then nowadays, neither song do I ever like seek out.
                                         
                                        But I loved the epic nature of these larger than life,
                                         
                                        songs that have multiple songs
                                         
                                        there's multiple songs in this pair
                                         
                                        but you know what makes it profound for all of us
                                         
                                        I think too is the first experience
                                         
                                        the emotional feeling
                                         
    
                                        it brings you back to that
                                         
                                        especially because you could picture
                                         
                                        picture yourself at the C&E
                                         
                                        you have a very visceral reaction to it
                                         
                                        and me Bohemian Rhaps see the first time I ever heard
                                         
                                        it on the radio when I was 10 years old
                                         
                                        and like I it's one of those things
                                         
                                        where I can remember being in my bedroom
                                         
    
                                        listening to the clock radio and it was CCOC
                                         
                                        and hearing the opening of the song
                                         
                                        and just that opening I was like
                                         
                                        what is this?
                                         
                                        I never heard anything like that before.
                                         
                                        You had that same experience.
                                         
                                        Same experience.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        And shout out to Paradise by the Dashboard Light because fucking epic.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, and it just was so much fun as, I think I was like 15 or whatever I was.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Classic.
                                         
                                        Good job.
                                         
                                        And shout out to the guy calling the Yankees games.
                                         
    
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        Classic play-by-play.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't know.
                                         
                                        He got him to do it.
                                         
                                        Scoot?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Shit, I know this name.
                                         
                                        It'll come to me.
                                         
    
                                        But he did a great job with the surrounding.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God, he's going to score.
                                         
                                        Holy cow.
                                         
                                        Holy cow, I think he's going to make it.
                                         
                                        He's going to steal a rizzuto.
                                         
                                        He's going to steal the race.
                                         
                                        Scoop?
                                         
                                        Phil Rizzuto.
                                         
    
                                        Didn't you have a nickname?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Scoop or scoot?
                                         
                                        No idea.
                                         
                                        I'll look it up.
                                         
                                        Stop right there.
                                         
                                        Boom, boom.
                                         
                                        Okay, so.
                                         
    
                                        Good job.
                                         
                                        Hold on.
                                         
                                        That was a good one for you because I'm surprised you picked out clean.
                                         
                                        It's your birthday, buddy.
                                         
                                        No, it was good.
                                         
                                        Nickname of Phil.
                                         
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        That's important?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, because I think it was, I want to think it's scooter or something.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, it is scooter.
                                         
                                        I'll make sure I'm not losing my fucking mind
                                         
                                        My brain health is important to me
                                         
                                        The scooter was his nickname
                                         
                                        Phil Rizzuto
                                         
                                        Shout out to Ridley Funer Home died
                                         
                                        We're almost daring to pick them off
                                         
    
                                        Amazing song
                                         
                                        And we'll just listen and dissect it together
                                         
                                        Maybe that'll be an episode of trying to make
                                         
                                        Okay Bob
                                         
                                        I just want to let you know that the sea scallops
                                         
                                        Ascaramush are only $54
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        A couple of reasons I picked this
                                         
    
                                        I've mentioned this band before here
                                         
                                        On the show
                                         
                                        I don't think I've ever played them
                                         
                                        but I want it to include something that's fairly recent
                                         
                                        that isn't like just from like an epic memory
                                         
                                        that has had a profound effect on me.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        I was woken by a bang.
                                         
    
                                        And I could already taste the pain.
                                         
                                        The sudden fear that grips and shakes you when you face the truth.
                                         
                                        Whose sofa was this?
                                         
                                        Where were my shoes?
                                         
                                        What did we do last night?
                                         
                                        I don't remember leaving.
                                         
                                        in Nathan's house
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
    
                                        How could I forget
                                         
                                        Why my pants
                                         
                                        Was soaking wet
                                         
                                        When we've been pissing our souls
                                         
                                        Laughing at the news
                                         
                                        Do you see it too?
                                         
                                        It was incredible
                                         
                                        They played it on a loop
                                         
    
                                        We couldn't believe it
                                         
                                        Basically they discovered
                                         
                                        That there were others
                                         
                                        Just like us
                                         
                                        Other beings, other creatures
                                         
                                        Other planets and other species
                                         
                                        Who had other gods
                                         
                                        That they believed in
                                         
    
                                        And they interviewed all of them
                                         
                                        And every one of them
                                         
                                        Not one
                                         
                                        Give any hints of a clue what they were doing here, either.
                                         
                                        It's so, so pointless.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        That's beautiful.
                                         
                                        I find it humbling, sincerely.
                                         
    
                                        When you're gone, it brings me peace of mind to know that this will all all, just carry on with someone else.
                                         
                                        Something new.
                                         
                                        No need to be blue.
                                         
                                        So I want to hear the end of the song, but I'll talk over this point.
                                         
                                        So this is a band called Yard Act.
                                         
                                        And they are, this is Yard Act.
                                         
                                        And they are out of Leeds, UK is from 2022.
                                         
                                        Wait, you're telling me that band is British.
                                         
    
                                        I know, it's hard to believe.
                                         
                                        And they, they, they, they, uh, my buddy David Allard, who's a big music, music guy.
                                         
                                        He had tickets to see them at the concert hall.
                                         
                                        And I was just, this was last year.
                                         
                                        It was November.
                                         
                                        And I hadn't, I'd been unemployed from January or,
                                         
                                        February to November and this song, there's lyrics in this song.
                                         
                                        I love, you'll also hear of existentialism kind of themed through all of my profound songs.
                                         
    
                                        Are you okay, Bob?
                                         
                                        No, I'm not far from it.
                                         
                                        Thank you.
                                         
                                        So there's a whole part of this song that just gave me hope.
                                         
                                        And I listen to it over and over and over again.
                                         
                                        So I want you to hear the end of the song if it's okay.
                                         
                                        What's the name of the song again?
                                         
                                        When it swells?
                                         
    
                                        Can I see I have a bit of a bit.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, a little bit before that, yeah.
                                         
                                        Reminder to you, you know this already, but you've got a beautiful family.
                                         
                                        Yes, of course.
                                         
                                        You're loved by many.
                                         
                                        Yes, thank you.
                                         
                                        Your health is okay?
                                         
                                        Because you look amazing.
                                         
    
                                        It looks good to me.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I'll check your records in a moment.
                                         
                                        Okay, now we hear this.
                                         
                                        Death is coming for us all, but not today.
                                         
                                        Today you're living it.
                                         
                                        Hey, you're really feeling it.
                                         
                                        Give it everything you've got, knowing that you can't take it with you and all you ever needed to exist.
                                         
    
                                        There's always been within you.
                                         
                                        Give me some of that good stuff, that human spirit.
                                         
                                        Cut it with 100% endurance.
                                         
                                        It's just crazy.
                                         
                                        It's so cool.
                                         
                                        Is that a harp?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And they played it live on stage, too.
                                         
    
                                        They had a harpist.
                                         
                                        It was a year ago that you sent me the text of this album.
                                         
                                        You were like, you need to listen to this.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, and they're so good live.
                                         
                                        Oh, my God.
                                         
                                        So what happened was my buddy said, hey, do you want to go to this show?
                                         
                                        I'm like, sure, why not?
                                         
                                        It's a Monday night beginning of November.
                                         
    
                                        And it's got this amazing.
                                         
                                        I started listening to them, and their biggest hit was this at the time as their number one song.
                                         
                                        So I listened to it, and immediately it had an impact on me.
                                         
                                        The idea of things carrying on with someone else, the idea of take somebody,
                                         
                                        we missed that first time, but that line is like, take somebody by the shoulders and shake them
                                         
                                        and tell them death is coming for us all, but not today.
                                         
                                        It's okay.
                                         
                                        That's so.
                                         
    
                                        Are you on to my bonus now?
                                         
                                        Yeah, you are.
                                         
                                        No, I'm not.
                                         
                                        Oh, this is the end of it?
                                         
                                        because I have to actually physically play the most thing.
                                         
                                        But Mike, Tobias Vaughn says that he saw these guys live last year,
                                         
                                        and it was an amazing guy.
                                         
                                        I was at that show.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        They only came here.
                                         
                                        They played twice.
                                         
                                        They played once over it, like, a little place on, I think, parts and whatever.
                                         
                                        Scada bush.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Scada bush.
                                         
                                        Scatibus at Sherway Gardens.
                                         
                                        And they played there.
                                         
    
                                        They were amazing live.
                                         
                                        But that song, to this day, my kids, my kids, I make my kids listen to it.
                                         
                                        And they're like, Dad, you really love the song.
                                         
                                        I'm like, I do, I do.
                                         
                                        I said, and they asked me why.
                                         
                                        And I said, because it's, I think it's actually a very hopeful song.
                                         
                                        And I think it, uh, um, and I think a lot about, I actually read and think a lot about
                                         
                                        extensionalism, extantialism.
                                         
    
                                        Existialism.
                                         
                                        Existentialism.
                                         
                                        Now, Bob, I'm curious.
                                         
                                        Um, is this tied to your industry of choice?
                                         
                                        Oh, 100%.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, of course.
                                         
                                        So radio, radio, like there may not be room for.
                                         
    
                                        someone as talented and creative
                                         
                                        as Bob Willett in the world of radio
                                         
                                        in 2025. I don't know
                                         
                                        if that's why there's no room for me, but
                                         
                                        there might not be room for me.
                                         
                                        And to dedicate
                                         
                                        a very large portion of your 50 years
                                         
                                        on this earth to something
                                         
    
                                        and realize they don't want you
                                         
                                        was very, very hard for me
                                         
                                        to deal with.
                                         
                                        And yeah, and you know, and I...
                                         
                                        But they suck. Like, I mean, it's not like...
                                         
                                        I mean, that's fine. They suck, but I still...
                                         
                                        Well, that's fine. They suck, but I still have bills to pay.
                                         
                                        right? So I got to figure that shit out, right?
                                         
    
                                        So that's what the existentialism part of it is.
                                         
                                        Thank God for Mrs. Willett. I know that's not her name.
                                         
                                        Rob, did you hear the update from Bob on Bob's basement?
                                         
                                        I did not.
                                         
                                        He hasn't heard it yet. So you're, you like me better.
                                         
                                        I was telling Bob. We're going to find out who likes Bob better because I listen to it.
                                         
                                        I listen to why I'm driving today.
                                         
                                        It's basically like a monologue from Bob Willett.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        And I kind of think that that's a good vibe for you.
                                         
                                        I feel like a lot of people are listening to you.
                                         
                                        I don't know how many people want to listen to me for 20 minutes.
                                         
                                        20 minutes is a good amount.
                                         
                                        It really depends what you're saying.
                                         
                                        I played a little, so what I did in there just to show how much I love what I do is I found
                                         
                                        these old cassettes of me interviewing like celebrities based on, I had Bill Cosby. I'm 13 years old
                                         
    
                                        me, horny Bob. Still his hero. Yeah. No, yeah, still my hero. Wait, interviewing Bill? Yeah, me
                                         
                                        interviewing Bill Cosby at third, I'm 13 years old. I'm using his comedy albums. Oh, that's, I'm
                                         
                                        queuing up his, really? Like Al TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So I've been doing this for a long time.
                                         
                                        Anyways, that song had a, still to this day.
                                         
                                        it's on my Spotify
                                         
                                        and I bet you it's going to be in my top
                                         
                                        10 this year that band
                                         
                                        because I listen to them all the time
                                         
    
                                        I also have the vinyl now too
                                         
                                        Is there a station in Toronto that would play yard act?
                                         
                                        Indy88 would have back in the day
                                         
                                        but they don't
                                         
                                        when they were not doing
                                         
                                        well in the ratings
                                         
                                        that's the problem you can't play for the cool kids
                                         
                                        because there's just not enough money
                                         
    
                                        I don't see if and why I taught us that when they
                                         
                                        yeah you can't you can't do it
                                         
                                        so I understand why
                                         
                                        the radio station sounds the way it does
                                         
                                        and I'm happy to be a part of it.
                                         
                                        I just hope they want me to be a part of it.
                                         
                                        That's all.
                                         
                                        But yeah, I don't think anybody to play.
                                         
    
                                        It's bad.
                                         
                                        It's too bad because they're a phenomenal band.
                                         
                                        To the point where our next, it's not a mind blow,
                                         
                                        but this is their version of the song that Elton John did with them.
                                         
                                        Elton John loves these guys from Leeds.
                                         
                                        So if you hear that, it'll be.
                                         
                                        I could already taste the shame.
                                         
                                        The sudden fear, the grips and shakes you in your face.
                                         
    
                                        I love the bass.
                                         
                                        Who's sofa was this
                                         
                                        Where were my shoes
                                         
                                        What did we do last night
                                         
                                        I don't remember leaving Nathan's
                                         
                                        House
                                         
                                        Ah yeah
                                         
                                        How could I forget
                                         
    
                                        Why my pants were soaking wet
                                         
                                        When we've been pissing ourselves
                                         
                                        laughing at the news
                                         
                                        Do you see it too
                                         
                                        It was incredible
                                         
                                        They played it on a loop
                                         
                                        Basically they'd discovered
                                         
                                        That there were others
                                         
    
                                        Just like us
                                         
                                        Other beings and other creatures
                                         
                                        And other planets
                                         
                                        There's Elton's piano.
                                         
                                        That's so cool.
                                         
                                        And he sings too.
                                         
                                        He approached them.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
    
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        It's so pointless.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        And I find that humbly sincerely.
                                         
                                        And when you're gone.
                                         
                                        Every time we hear a British accent in a song, I think of the streets.
                                         
                                        I think so, I think it's anything.
                                         
                                        That's so funny.
                                         
    
                                        Someone else.
                                         
                                        Draw your eyes, mate.
                                         
                                        See, it's neat to hear Elton do the boat.
                                         
                                        Like, he's doing a lower line.
                                         
                                        Like, he's not, he's doing the harmony.
                                         
                                        He's not doing the melody.
                                         
                                        Anyhow.
                                         
                                        That's how big they, that's how good they are.
                                         
    
                                        Elton, who I think we all have respect for it, say the least.
                                         
                                        I fucked up the intro to this episode, so I just need to correct something on the public record here
                                         
                                        during the first episode of October
                                         
                                        2025.
                                         
                                        So I shouted out
                                         
                                        Waterfront BIA
                                         
                                        because I love those guys.
                                         
                                        There's an episode
                                         
    
                                        from last week
                                         
                                        about Waterfall Festival.
                                         
                                        Check it out.
                                         
                                        Love my four months of them.
                                         
                                        But I completely forgot
                                         
                                        to shout out
                                         
                                        the wonder that is Nick Aini's
                                         
                                        and he was at TMLX20
                                         
    
                                        who is returning.
                                         
                                        Is Nick back?
                                         
                                        Nick is back,
                                         
                                        October 1st.
                                         
                                        October 1.
                                         
                                        You want to play my AI jingle?
                                         
                                        See, I need the PJ team here.
                                         
                                        I need somebody to come help me here.
                                         
    
                                        I had a chat with Travis Dan Raj, by the way.
                                         
                                        I think he's behind you, Mike.
                                         
                                        What's behind me?
                                         
                                        Toronto Skyline.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, I never took it down.
                                         
                                        Okay, I knew Nick would be back.
                                         
                                        So two great podcasts from Nick.
                                         
                                        One just had a guy named Keith Stein on.
                                         
    
                                        He owns the Toronto Maple Leaf Base Baseball team.
                                         
                                        And the Keith Stein episode was stellar.
                                         
                                        And that is called Building Success with Nick Aienis, the Building Success series.
                                         
                                        Check it out, man.
                                         
                                        Nick talking to Keith.
                                         
                                        Keith says some lovely things about yours truly.
                                         
                                        That's why I have to recommend it.
                                         
                                        But welcome back, Nick Aieny's.
                                         
    
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                                        I already know Rob Proust is the biggest fan of Life's Undertaking from Ridley Funeral Home.
                                         
                                        I love the new episode.
                                         
                                        I love that you love the new episode.
                                         
    
                                        We record every two weeks in this very basement.
                                         
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                                        Why don't you do it in the basement of the funeral home?
                                         
                                        A lot of dead bodies around.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's my point.
                                         
                                        I know where the bodies are buried.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, they're going to be.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
    
                                        Bob, how bad is this existential crisis?
                                         
                                        I can get you a deal at Ridley Funeral Home.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        you know what I probably should start thinking about it
                                         
                                        you know turn of 50
                                         
                                        talk to Mrs. Woodland about this again January
                                         
                                        you said January 18th
                                         
                                        can you take a note Bruce
                                         
    
                                        actually I have a friend of mine
                                         
                                        do you go ahead take your note
                                         
                                        but January 25th my very good friend
                                         
                                        Sarah and I share our birthday
                                         
                                        like a week apart she's the biggest
                                         
                                        lowest of the low fan
                                         
                                        and I was like I'm wondering if I could reach out to
                                         
                                        Ron and
                                         
    
                                        and pay him to play her birthday party
                                         
                                        we've been talking about it because
                                         
                                        I bet she's got to she's a
                                         
                                        Ron does that
                                         
                                        she's a very successful
                                         
                                        HR person
                                         
                                        she's the one who's organizing that
                                         
                                        the the Govan Brown
                                         
    
                                        oh I was gonna give away those tickets right oh yeah
                                         
                                        okay so okay so there's a company
                                         
                                        called Goven Brown they're a construction
                                         
                                        company here in Canada you they would have
                                         
                                        they would have they built
                                         
                                        they built this city
                                         
                                        you guys starshiped
                                         
                                        Sherway
                                         
    
                                        Sherway Gardens they've done a whole bunch of stuff
                                         
                                        there Skada bush
                                         
                                        yeah Scada bush is what they've done
                                         
                                        do the Fandago?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        But on,
                                         
                                        if,
                                         
                                        if anybody would like to go,
                                         
    
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        to see there,
                                         
                                        they do an annual,
                                         
                                        is their seventh annual curapalooza.
                                         
                                        Although,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        it's for,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
    
                                        make a wish foundation.
                                         
                                        Um,
                                         
                                        it's at the Phoenix concert theater on,
                                         
                                        uh,
                                         
                                        let me just get the date exactly.
                                         
                                        October 23rd,
                                         
                                        Thursday,
                                         
                                        October 23rd.
                                         
    
                                        I've got a pair of tickets to give away.
                                         
                                        You can email,
                                         
                                        you can email me,
                                         
                                        Bob at.
                                         
                                        Is the cure plane?
                                         
                                        Uh,
                                         
                                        no,
                                         
                                        all right,
                                         
    
                                        no,
                                         
                                        it is actually Danny Greaves.
                                         
                                        Oh,
                                         
                                        of The Watchman opening for Big Rec.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        So that's amazing.
                                         
                                        And it's $75 a ticket to buy at the Phoenix Concert Theater,
                                         
                                        which is a really good deal, by the way,
                                         
    
                                        to see a band like Big Rec.
                                         
                                        I'll wait until this goes out to everybody.
                                         
                                        You can email me at my Bobulette at gmail.com.
                                         
                                        I'll put you into a draw,
                                         
                                        and if you want to go, I'll hook you up with a pair of tickets.
                                         
                                        But Kirapalooza, it's really cool.
                                         
                                        Go to the Phoenix website, buy a pair of tickets.
                                         
                                        It goes to a really good cost.
                                         
    
                                        And it's a fun little party.
                                         
                                        They had Sloan there.
                                         
                                        they've had Sam Roberts, they've had Arkells, they've had metric.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they've had great lineups.
                                         
                                        And I would like to say, I help my friend Sarah organize it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's cool.
                                         
                                        I really love that too.
                                         
                                        And if, and Mike will go.
                                         
    
                                        Mike said he'll go if I go.
                                         
                                        As it stands right now, I am going.
                                         
                                        So Danny, I love, you know, he played at TM Elixivins.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        So, but I'm serious about my friend Sarah and I may be doing a co-birthday thing and
                                         
                                        maybe having Mr.
                                         
                                        Hawkins come and do some stuff.
                                         
                                        That sounds really cool.
                                         
    
                                        I don't know,
                                         
                                        but I don't want to go through an agency.
                                         
                                        I want to go direct.
                                         
                                        No, I can't,
                                         
                                        I can,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        he,
                                         
                                        you can totally go,
                                         
    
                                        he'd love you to go direct
                                         
                                        and book that if he's able to.
                                         
                                        Because then it's not money
                                         
                                        out of his pocket.
                                         
                                        No,
                                         
                                        he does that.
                                         
                                        Like he plays people's living rooms.
                                         
                                        I know,
                                         
    
                                        I know.
                                         
                                        And it would be,
                                         
                                        it's something that we've been talking about.
                                         
                                        So I didn't mean to bring it up on air,
                                         
                                        but here we are.
                                         
                                        There you go.
                                         
                                        I'll take my normal 20%,
                                         
                                        and we'll make this happen.
                                         
    
                                        So there you go.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So anybody,
                                         
                                        be entered for a free pair of tickets to see that show on October 23rd.
                                         
                                        I'll do the draw probably like, you know, in a week or so.
                                         
                                        So, uh, thank you for that.
                                         
                                        Big rec has some great jams too.
                                         
                                        Oh my gosh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Is Thornley in that band again?
                                         
                                        I can't remember.
                                         
                                        He is the lead singer of that band.
                                         
                                        No, he left for, isn't he lead?
                                         
                                        No, they weren't, they never performed without him.
                                         
                                        Oh, he went solo.
                                         
                                        He signed with six and four.
                                         
                                        So what band replaced, uh, three days grace replaced their lead?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, then right now, and now they have both.
                                         
                                        I wonder how many people confuse those bands in my head.
                                         
                                        Like, they're similar, like, Big Rec and Three Days Grace.
                                         
                                        Oh, I think, I, I, Big Rec for me.
                                         
                                        Like they're both Canadian, uh, you know, big wrecks out of Boston or something, but the lead
                                         
                                        singer's Canadian.
                                         
                                        Yeah, no, no, no.
                                         
                                        Three Days Grace is a little heavier and a little later.
                                         
    
                                        Um, I think that song is still that, those guys are associated with me with I'm
                                         
                                        Mother Earth and Our Lady Peace that era.
                                         
                                        They're a little bit past it.
                                         
                                        Like 98, I think is when that song came out, but still.
                                         
                                        And I'm Mother Earth also replaced their lead singer.
                                         
                                        And oh, and they've done, it was, I Mother Earth and Sloan.
                                         
                                        last year, actually, was there was
                                         
                                        Curapalooza. That's cool.
                                         
    
                                        These are all my bands. Yeah. So, yeah, so it's going to be
                                         
                                        fun and it's a good cause. And it's
                                         
                                        the Phoenix. One of the best places to see a show
                                         
                                        in the city. 410 Sherbourne Street.
                                         
                                        410 Sherbourne Street. See it while you can.
                                         
                                        Who knows what the plan is. All
                                         
                                        developments are paused. So a lot of these
                                         
                                        places that were earmarked to be blown up are like, okay, we're going to go
                                         
    
                                        another 10 years because we can't sell
                                         
                                        these. No, they're building too many.
                                         
                                        Well, that's why you listen to
                                         
                                        building Toronto Skyline with Nick Aeis. That's right.
                                         
                                        He gets all that information.
                                         
                                        So Bob, before we get the last jams from everybody,
                                         
                                        we're going to go to Rob in a second here.
                                         
                                        Since you're only, not to minimize it,
                                         
    
                                        but you're on Indy 88 Saturday and Sunday.
                                         
                                        That's it right now, yeah.
                                         
                                        But you're not on Monday through Friday right now.
                                         
                                        And I'm wondering,
                                         
                                        does that mean you're going to spend more time on Bob's basement?
                                         
                                        So, yeah, so here's the thing.
                                         
                                        They've offered me to do some sales.
                                         
                                        I mentioned that on the,
                                         
    
                                        and I'm very much thinking about.
                                         
                                        With Joe Middleton?
                                         
                                        Joe Middleton and I are meeting tomorrow, actually.
                                         
                                        Mr.
                                         
                                        was he
                                         
                                        Tomico Joe?
                                         
                                        Mimico Joe.
                                         
                                        Mimico Joe.
                                         
    
                                        Mimico Joe.
                                         
                                        That man bikes.
                                         
                                        But I am all,
                                         
                                        yes, he does.
                                         
                                        I,
                                         
                                        but I'm also meeting
                                         
                                        with the owner of the company
                                         
                                        and saying,
                                         
    
                                        okay,
                                         
                                        um,
                                         
                                        where are we?
                                         
                                        What's happening?
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        because I absolutely am so passionate about being on air.
                                         
                                        And I think I,
                                         
                                        I think I bring a lot to the table.
                                         
    
                                        Um, I don't,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        so here I am,
                                         
                                        what,
                                         
                                        what now?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Everybody is a salesperson.
                                         
                                        I mean,
                                         
    
                                        you're a charming,
                                         
                                        charismatic guy.
                                         
                                        So you could do,
                                         
                                        sales. I've been told I would do well at sales. I don't know if I have the passion for it.
                                         
                                        That's the problem. But you might have a quota and all that. No, I won't. I'm free.
                                         
                                        We've already talked about the terms. I'd be freelance. Whatever I sell, I get a certain
                                         
                                        percentage and that's it. Can you bundle things? Like, okay, you get in 88 and Toronto Mike.
                                         
                                        Right. Hey, if I get, Bob out there selling Toronto Mike. Well, if we sell that, we sell, we sell
                                         
    
                                        Bob's basement too. What percent do you get from the D.D.? Well, yeah. The MVP of sales.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I've never made a dime off Bob's basement yet. So.
                                         
                                        I've never tried to either though
                                         
                                        You can make money by selling Toronto
                                         
                                        Mike, take that percentage there
                                         
                                        this is the future of Bobbillett
                                         
                                        We've saved your life
                                         
                                        existential crisis over
                                         
    
                                        There you go
                                         
                                        Rob Proust
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Sorry that was a long time
                                         
                                        Did you do your
                                         
                                        Are we all up
                                         
                                        It's our last one
                                         
                                        Are we all hitting the last ones now?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah I just did yeah
                                         
                                        Because I did
                                         
                                        It was somebody's paying attention
                                         
                                        I got one more to go
                                         
                                        You got one more to go
                                         
                                        He's got one more
                                         
                                        As Paula Cole said
                                         
                                        We love the tangents
                                         
    
                                        Because the tangents
                                         
                                        Are what keep the show
                                         
                                        Thriving and alive
                                         
                                        Tangential Mike
                                         
                                        Tangential mic
                                         
                                        That's right
                                         
                                        Nice
                                         
                                        So this is that your
                                         
    
                                        Intro to your song
                                         
                                        No this is my last game
                                         
                                        Maybe you can press play
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        This is the last time
                                         
                                        But I will say these words
                                         
                                        I remember the first time
                                         
    
                                        Travis
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        Good guess
                                         
                                        Sweep it into the corner
                                         
                                        It's got to be Brit pop or something
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        But they never do
                                         
                                        Something I was a chore of
                                         
    
                                        But I was in the middle of
                                         
                                        Something I forget now
                                         
                                        Yeah Keith
                                         
                                        You know like Travis and Keene
                                         
                                        It's also very similar
                                         
                                        But somewhere only
                                         
                                        You go ahead
                                         
                                        Are the Irish?
                                         
    
                                        No, English.
                                         
                                        Make everything right.
                                         
                                        You follow me for anything you like.
                                         
                                        And I know I don't deny.
                                         
                                        This is the last time.
                                         
                                        last jam for Rob Prude.
                                         
                                        That's right. So this is Keene. This is the last
                                         
                                        time. It's from their album, Hopes
                                         
    
                                        and Fears, which came out in
                                         
                                        2004, 2003-2004
                                         
                                        era. And
                                         
                                        I had a hard time picking a song
                                         
                                        from this album, because for me, it's the whole
                                         
                                        album is my
                                         
                                        sort of profound, meaningful.
                                         
                                        Is this the somewhere only you
                                         
    
                                        go? Yeah. Is it no or go? This is
                                         
                                        literally side. This is track number two after
                                         
                                        somewhere only we know. Okay. But the whole album
                                         
                                        to me is fantastic. Like, I loved this so
                                         
                                        much at that time. My first wife loved this album. Really? As I recall. That's funny, because I
                                         
                                        discovered this album and I was newly single at the time. So I was living in New York. I'd already
                                         
                                        been doing Mama Mia on Broadway for a couple of years. And I had moved to a new, I moved across
                                         
                                        town and I was living alone. I was newly single for the first time, practically since I was 17.
                                         
    
                                        So this song for me reflects a moment in my life where I was like, what the fuck am I doing
                                         
                                        with my life? A midlife crisis when I was another midlife crisis. And I was like 38, 39. Actually,
                                         
                                        I was 39.
                                         
                                        You don't like those round number birthday.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And I used to like listen to this on my, the iPod was brand new at that time, right?
                                         
                                        Like, so I would load up my iPod with this album and I would go for a run along the
                                         
                                        Upper West Side Highway and Riverside Park by the Hudson River.
                                         
    
                                        And it's one of those associated things for me where this music just takes me back to that
                                         
                                        time in my life.
                                         
                                        And it was meaningful because I love this album.
                                         
                                        I love his voice because it reminds me a little bit of Freddie Mercury.
                                         
                                        Shout out to Bohemian Rhapsody in your jam.
                                         
                                        and he's just got that high range
                                         
                                        and I love the piano on this music
                                         
                                        it's all about the piano
                                         
    
                                        and I saw them play live
                                         
                                        a couple of times in New York
                                         
                                        I've seen them one
                                         
                                        well you know
                                         
                                        the singer had some addiction issues
                                         
                                        and they sort of went away for a while
                                         
                                        and then they came back
                                         
                                        but I think they never
                                         
    
                                        I think they're still together now
                                         
                                        they don't quite hit the highs
                                         
                                        that they hit at this point
                                         
                                        are they a one hit wonder
                                         
                                        they were several hit wonders
                                         
                                        in England especially
                                         
                                        in America
                                         
                                        I think they're like the verve
                                         
    
                                        I think they're a one hit wonder
                                         
                                        yeah lucky man too
                                         
                                        But only on CFNY.
                                         
                                        Like there's like lucky man, nobody else.
                                         
                                        If you listen to Chum FM, you don't know who.
                                         
                                        No, that's right.
                                         
                                        But you know what Bittersweet Symphony is.
                                         
                                        Same with this.
                                         
    
                                        You know.
                                         
                                        I would say keen for somewhere only we know is really, that's their period.
                                         
                                        And it's so you could call them on one hit wonder.
                                         
                                        But they're one of those bands.
                                         
                                        If you like the band,
                                         
                                        you know way more than that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        I think verve is.
                                         
                                        That's like a ha.
                                         
                                        The ha has many, many hits in Europe.
                                         
                                        But on this side of the pond, take on you.
                                         
                                        People only know, take on somebody.
                                         
                                        And I mean, I would say, I would say a secondary would be son,
                                         
                                        Sun only shines on TV.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Only CFN.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        That's it.
                                         
                                        Only CF.
                                         
                                        It's because we had a cool radio station.
                                         
                                        But good that you referred to Travis as well because I feel like the early,
                                         
                                        early 2000s.
                                         
                                        Is it always rain on me?
                                         
    
                                        But it was also that early era cold play sound.
                                         
                                        Also one hit wonder maybe, Travis?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Here and I hear for sure.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        100%.
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Not in England, but yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        For sure.
                                         
                                        This is,
                                         
                                        the lyrics are beautiful.
                                         
                                        They're beautiful.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm still looking at the lyrics.
                                         
                                        I remember Keenberry well.
                                         
    
                                        I saw them open for Robin of all people.
                                         
                                        Did you really?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        It was a weird, one of those V-Fest that didn't do so well.
                                         
                                        It was down at the, at the time, the Molson Amphitheater.
                                         
                                        And they were terrific.
                                         
                                        And obviously, Robin was amazing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I love Robbins so much.
                                         
    
                                        But yeah, very cool.
                                         
                                        So that was a meaningful, profound.
                                         
                                        So you did it.
                                         
                                        The most personal topic in toast history, and you did it.
                                         
                                        We all did it.
                                         
                                        Well, I haven't gone yet.
                                         
                                        You're doing it.
                                         
                                        So Bob's closing.
                                         
    
                                        So it's funny you mentioned, what did you mention?
                                         
                                        It's funny you mentioned Bittersweet Symphony.
                                         
                                        Because here's my final, profound jam.
                                         
                                        My soul had been the recession
                                         
                                        across the way in New Haven.
                                         
                                        My ocean needs from the nation.
                                         
                                        And her feet are some footless way.
                                         
                                        Now you can't always give what you want.
                                         
    
                                        You can't always get what you want.
                                         
                                        You can't always get what you want.
                                         
                                        And if you try sometime, you'll find out.
                                         
                                        I love that
                                         
                                        I love that French horn.
                                         
                                        Did you know who's going to meet that French horn?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Al Cooper.
                                         
    
                                        That's really.
                                         
                                        He's also playing the piano and organ on this song.
                                         
                                        I didn't know we played French horn.
                                         
                                        George.
                                         
                                        You can't always get what you want.
                                         
                                        All right you want.
                                         
                                        You can't always get what you want by the Rolling Stones.
                                         
                                        And this is from Let It Bleed.
                                         
    
                                        their 1969 album
                                         
                                        hearing it now in the headphones
                                         
                                        what a great fucking song
                                         
                                        Bob it's a good song right
                                         
                                        well produced
                                         
                                        well produced
                                         
                                        very unique
                                         
                                        Jimmy Miller by the way on production
                                         
    
                                        it's a great song yeah
                                         
                                        great song okay
                                         
                                        I was just sharing Bob
                                         
                                        when you were taking a leak
                                         
                                        I was sharing with Rob Proust
                                         
                                        that's some inside baseball here
                                         
                                        Al Cooper is the gentleman
                                         
                                        who plays that French horn
                                         
    
                                        the intro, and he also plays piano and organ
                                         
                                        on this thing. But you can hear these congas
                                         
                                        and these maracas and the tambourine, and that's
                                         
                                        Rocky Dijon. Okay. So a little shout
                                         
                                        out who's playing on this song here. So
                                         
                                        I will just
                                         
                                        read a quote from Mick Jagger, because
                                         
                                        I think it speaks to how this song
                                         
    
                                        comes together, but Mick Jagger says
                                         
                                        you can't always get what you want
                                         
                                        was something I just played on acoustic
                                         
                                        guitar, one of those bedroom songs.
                                         
                                        It proved to be quite difficult
                                         
                                        to record because Charlie, that would
                                         
                                        be Charlie Watts, couldn't play the
                                         
                                        groove. So Jimmy Miller had to play the drums. I'd also had this idea of having a choir,
                                         
    
                                        probably a gospel choir, on the track, but there wasn't one around at that point.
                                         
                                        Jack Nietzsche or somebody said that we could get the London Bach Choir, and we said
                                         
                                        that will be a laugh. Well, it happened, everybody. We happened. Okay, so I'm just going to
                                         
                                        remind myself of the extra songs I have here. Oh, yeah. Okay. Some fun facts coming up.
                                         
                                        similar story to
                                         
                                        my Queen's Greatest Hits story
                                         
                                        which is in the same record collection
                                         
                                        I would leave through looking for something to check out
                                         
    
                                        I found Hot Rocks
                                         
                                        Hot Rocks
                                         
                                        Everybody knows this possibly
                                         
                                        Maybe not is like a double compilation album
                                         
                                        This is like all the big stone songs
                                         
                                        From 64 to 71
                                         
                                        So it's all on this
                                         
                                        It's great hits basically up until 71
                                         
    
                                        And I would play through it
                                         
                                        One song
                                         
                                        Painted Black was one
                                         
                                        song I gravitated towards. I could have probably kicked that out. I really liked paint it
                                         
                                        black. But this song, I just thought it was so, fucking, such a beautiful song. I liked everything
                                         
                                        about this song and really had a profound effect on me. You're like the big long songs.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Maybe. I did. Anyways, you notice all my songs are from like when I was younger.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah. No song has had a profound effect on me in many decades.
                                         
    
                                        It's what we're learning here. So that's again, comes back to why it's, why it's,
                                         
                                        It's your first impression.
                                         
                                        When you hear something, as a child, it's more, there's less information coming into your head.
                                         
                                        Like, I'm not sure this song ever went away, but it absolutely had a resurgence when the Big Chill came out.
                                         
                                        So this song is used rather effectively in the opening scenes of the movie The Big Chill.
                                         
                                        Can anyone here name the actor who played The Dead Guy?
                                         
                                        Because they're all gathering for this funeral.
                                         
                                        Who played The Dead Guy in The Big Chill?
                                         
    
                                        Wasn't it Kevin Costner?
                                         
                                        It's Kevin Costner.
                                         
                                        Points for you here.
                                         
                                        Excellent.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        So, not a lot of mind blows here, really, but there is an interesting belief at the time, I suppose, which is, oh, no, I mentioned, okay, I'm going to do a couple of things really quickly here.
                                         
                                        I just, by the way, I just watched the Gimme Shelter documentary, and they list Keith Richards as Keith Richard, and I swear to you, I'm watching this just the other day.
                                         
                                        And I had seen this on TVO back in the day, but I didn't pay attention to this.
                                         
    
                                        I thought it was a typo.
                                         
                                        Like, I'm like, oh, they fucked it up.
                                         
                                        They called him Keith Richard.
                                         
                                        His name is Keith Richards.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And then I found out I had no idea.
                                         
                                        I know I shared this in the, the, uh, WhatsApp chat, but I had no idea that Keith Richards
                                         
                                        went by Keith Richard for a long time.
                                         
    
                                        Did you know that, Bob?
                                         
                                        I did not.
                                         
                                        No, well, you'd have to know it by seeing something like an old documentary because we
                                         
                                        weren't around.
                                         
                                        So Keith Richards went by Keith Richard, but his real name was Keith Richards and he changed it
                                         
                                        back, I don't know, late 70s or something.
                                         
                                        He's like, no, I'm fucking Keith Richards.
                                         
                                        And that's the only way I know him.
                                         
    
                                        Keith Richards.
                                         
                                        So I mentioned Jimmy Miller.
                                         
                                        Jimmy Miller had to do the drums on this song
                                         
                                        because Charlie Watts couldn't
                                         
                                        So what happened when they played live?
                                         
                                        I don't know, I guess then Watts does it, I don't know.
                                         
                                        Well, not now.
                                         
                                        Here's a fun fact about Jimmy Miller.
                                         
    
                                        A little bit of a fun fact, I think.
                                         
                                        I'm going to play a song here.
                                         
                                        So, a couple of fun facts here.
                                         
                                        You can't always get what you want was originally
                                         
                                        the B side of this song
                                         
                                        with the other fun fact
                                         
                                        I wanted to share with you too
                                         
                                        Let me guess
                                         
    
                                        Jimmy Miller is playing the cowbell
                                         
                                        Yeah that's right
                                         
                                        That's right
                                         
                                        I knew it
                                         
                                        This cowbell is Jimmy Miller
                                         
                                        The producer
                                         
                                        Fuck
                                         
                                        Bob you blew my big line there
                                         
    
                                        Amazing
                                         
                                        Amazing
                                         
                                        This can't seem to drink it out.
                                         
                                        It's a great son.
                                         
                                        Laura's mom loved this song.
                                         
                                        Laura's mom who passed away.
                                         
                                        She didn't, like, she was very reserved woman.
                                         
                                        But if you're out of wedding and this came on, she was up.
                                         
    
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        I guess this is a ticket about Laura's mom here.
                                         
                                        Remember we did problematic jams?
                                         
                                        And then brown sugar I kicked out because brown sugar, which is heavily featured in this
                                         
                                        Gimme Shelter I was watching again.
                                         
                                        And my kids watched it with me.
                                         
                                        And you see the murder.
                                         
                                        Like you see the hell's angels.
                                         
    
                                        Oh yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was caught on footage.
                                         
                                        It's quite a reveal at Elthamont Speedway.
                                         
                                        They say that's the day the 60s ended, don't you know?
                                         
                                        But okay, but Brown Sugar is such a great, problematic lyrics,
                                         
                                        but what a fucking great song, Brown Sugar is.
                                         
                                        Just shutting it out.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, so I'm going to play a song because a lot of people said,
                                         
                                        you can't always get what you want was basically the Rolling Stones
                                         
                                        doing their version of something the Beatles did.
                                         
                                        And there was like a consensus that, oh,
                                         
                                        the Beatles will do something like
                                         
                                        groundbreaking and then six months later
                                         
                                        the Rolling Stones would kind of copy it or whatever
                                         
                                        this was like a perception in the 60s
                                         
    
                                        and I just thought it's interesting
                                         
                                        that this song
                                         
                                        Hey Jude
                                         
                                        Don't make it bad
                                         
                                        Take a side of this song
                                         
                                        Heavily inspired Mick Jagger
                                         
                                        When he was writing you can't always get what you want
                                         
                                        Mick said I liked the way the Beatles did that with Hey Jude
                                         
    
                                        The orchestra was not just to cover everything up
                                         
                                        It was something extra.
                                         
                                        We may do something like that on our next album.
                                         
                                        He said that.
                                         
                                        And then this was on the next album.
                                         
                                        And a lot of people compare the spirit of you can't always get what you want to
                                         
                                        that of Hey Jude by the Beatles.
                                         
                                        And I just thought that would be a fun little capper.
                                         
    
                                        Something going to sue somebody over the vibe of the song.
                                         
                                        Well, now I'm thinking of a bittersweet symphony.
                                         
                                        But it was what's his name, Klein?
                                         
                                        Alan Klein.
                                         
                                        Klein. Alan Klein, who
                                         
                                        had ownership of the
                                         
                                        song. Yeah.
                                         
                                        And it was Oldman's
                                         
    
                                        Orchestra, right? What's his name?
                                         
                                        Oldman. Andrew Lugge Oldham.
                                         
                                        That's him. Oldham.
                                         
                                        And that was the version that they
                                         
                                        looped for Bitter's sweet. That's right.
                                         
                                        What a story that was. Okay.
                                         
                                        All right, Bob Willett. The stage is
                                         
                                        yours to take us home. Oh, we'll just start it, and then
                                         
    
                                        I'll give you a little story about it.
                                         
                                        That sounds like a fucking plan. Here we
                                         
                                        go.
                                         
                                        He knows not a damn damn thing at all
                                         
                                        And every time I felt the hurt
                                         
                                        And I felt the giving getting me up off the wall
                                         
                                        I'm just gonna take a minute and let it ride
                                         
                                        I'm just gonna take a minute and let it breeze
                                         
    
                                        I'm just gonna take a minute and let it ride
                                         
                                        I'm just gonna take a minute and let it breathe
                                         
                                        How did Mandela get the will that surpassed
                                         
                                        Every day when injustice had him caged
                                         
                                        And trapped in every way
                                         
                                        How did Gandhi ever withstand
                                         
                                        hunger strikes and all didn't do it to gain power or money if I recall it's the gift
                                         
                                        I guess I'll pass it on mother thinks it'll lift distress of Babylon mother knows my mother
                                         
    
                                        she suffered blows I don't know how we survive such violent episodes I was so worried
                                         
                                        it hurt to see you bleed but as soon as you came out the hospital you gave me sweets
                                         
                                        yeah they try to take you for me but you still only gave them some prayers and sympathy
                                         
                                        dear mama you help me write this by showing me to give it's priceless and any man who knows
                                         
                                        a thing knows he knows not a damn damn thing at all and every time i felt a hurt and i felt the
                                         
                                        given getting me up off the wall i'm just gonna take a minute and let it cry i'm just gonna
                                         
                                        take a minute and let it breeze i'm just gonna take a minute and let it cry i'm just gonna take a minute and let it cry i'm just gonna take a minute
                                         
                                        and let it breathe
                                         
    
                                        All I can say is
                                         
                                        The worst is over now
                                         
                                        We can serve the hard times
                                         
                                        Divorce
                                         
                                        It's over now
                                         
                                        They try to keep us out
                                         
                                        But their doors is open now
                                         
                                        Acorn is getting awards
                                         
    
                                        And covers now
                                         
                                        That's good
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        That's Canaan Trubidor
                                         
                                        One of my favorite albums of all time
                                         
                                        I've kicked out some stuff from them before
                                         
                                        That album
                                         
                                        Was given to me early
                                         
    
                                        By Chris Garcia
                                         
                                        Of Universal Music
                                         
                                        I was the program director
                                         
                                        at Proud FM, but I was already working out of 5312 Dundas Street West, I guess, out in Atobico,
                                         
                                        or not Atobico, still 416 proper there, because it's on the...
                                         
                                        Well, Atobico is 416 proper.
                                         
                                        You're right.
                                         
                                        It's on the east side of the 420s.
                                         
    
                                        I know, I'm sitting in Atopico right now, Boblin.
                                         
                                        Sorry, it's on the east side of the 401, is what I was.
                                         
                                        Anyway, or the, you know, where the 427 comes down.
                                         
                                        Anyhow, and the first single was not waving flag.
                                         
                                        It was something else.
                                         
                                        I remember taking the album home and listening.
                                         
                                        to it. I think it was ABC's. It was the first single, which is, I think, the first or second
                                         
                                        track. Anyhow, I listened to that album in two songs immediately. Well, Fatima, this song,
                                         
    
                                        and obviously, Wave and Flag, and I immediately started playing Wave and Flag on Proud FM
                                         
                                        before it was a single, before they had plans. So I got in trouble for it from Universal Music.
                                         
                                        But this song I heard, I heard, and it really resonated with me, mostly just for the line of any man
                                         
                                        who knows a thing, knows he knows not a damn damn thing at all. And that would be mostly because,
                                         
                                        again, in my
                                         
                                        existential crisis that I constantly
                                         
                                        live through, I'm
                                         
                                        constantly thinking about
                                         
    
                                        how people see me
                                         
                                        and how I'm seen.
                                         
                                        And I always used to joke, I used to say
                                         
                                        to people, again, when you're a leader of a team,
                                         
                                        you try to tell stories, I was like, when I was
                                         
                                        21, I didn't think I knew
                                         
                                        everything, I knew I knew everything.
                                         
                                        I'd come out from hanging out with Humble and Fred,
                                         
    
                                        and I was just like, I was king shit.
                                         
                                        And I knew everything at 21.
                                         
                                        And then by the time I reached
                                         
                                        40 and it's right around when this song came out or i guess no a little bit younger than that in my
                                         
                                        mid 30s i realized god damn it i don't know anything and this song any man who knows a thing
                                         
                                        knows he knows not a damn damn thing at all just hit me at the right time to go you know what any like
                                         
                                        you really have to give it all away like you like get your ego the fuck out of the way and just
                                         
                                        be like you don't know anything and then now as i'm approaching 50 this song still resonates and i
                                         
    
                                        listen to it all a lot still but i i i've come to a conclusion like okay i know a couple things
                                         
                                        but i don't know everything and i and i and i and i want to learn more and i think canaan's the kind of
                                         
                                        guy what i've only met him once i've seen him a few times live he's one of my favorite artists he's
                                         
                                        the kind of guy i think who's always learning and uh yeah to the point where he's blackballed from the
                                         
                                        industry pretty much you know he he wrote an yeah he wrote an op-ed after this uh third album uh he wrote
                                         
                                        an op in the New York Times and basically called out Universal Music for forcing him to write
                                         
                                        lyrics that had more white names and he hasn't released music since.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
    
                                        You can look it up.
                                         
                                        It's still out there.
                                         
                                        There's a term I heard on another podcast.
                                         
                                        They'd bring up somebody like Bill Cosby and then they'll say the sentence.
                                         
                                        They'll say scandal noted like because they're going to get all these notes.
                                         
                                        So there's a canon scandal noted in that he was charged with sexual assault in September
                                         
                                        2024. Well, that, okay, so that was, I'm not even talking about the 20, maybe. I know he was
                                         
                                        working with Mr. Jarvis Church, uh, absolutely. Yeah, we talked about that. He was, he was working
                                         
    
                                        with him. So I actually am not, I'm not, I have to be, uh, I have to be fully open. I'm not,
                                         
                                        I'm not aware of that skit. No, there's no details even, except that he was charged. Right. So
                                         
                                        charged is what? He's innocent into approval. Yeah. He's charged with sexual assault in a
                                         
                                        Quebec City courtroom. Oh, I know nothing of that. I have to admit that's the first time I've
                                         
                                        heard that. Um, so, um, yeah, we'll see. I, that's, I'm, we'll see. I, that's, that's, that's, I'm,
                                         
                                        I'm still not going to change whether or not
                                         
                                        that's a profound song to me.
                                         
                                        What is the other song?
                                         
    
                                        It's called Take a Minute.
                                         
                                        It's on Trubidor.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And yeah, so it's just one of those
                                         
                                        any man who knows this.
                                         
                                        I honestly think that's one of my mantras
                                         
                                        is any man who knows a thing
                                         
                                        knows he knows not a damn damn thing at all.
                                         
    
                                        And I want to tell the listeners,
                                         
                                        there is a Bob Willett kicks out the jam episode
                                         
                                        before he was a member of the Toadreux?
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, yeah, I'm toast.
                                         
                                        But no, it's not a sorry because that's not toast at all.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        You're kicking out the jams.
                                         
                                        You know, you had your 10 songs.
                                         
    
                                        Rob did this as well.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I kicked out one of my songs on our very first toast that I ever did with you guys as well.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah?
                                         
                                        I used Night Porter for whatever the topic was.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I was looking back in my notes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        In December of 2022, I think it was the first toast I ever did with you guys.
                                         
    
                                        Where we are.
                                         
                                        Listen to that song.
                                         
                                        When are we getting the new?
                                         
                                        Because I know I mentioned Leve Fumka a few times because we all love her.
                                         
                                        She's an FOTM Hall of Famer, but she wants you to deliver on your promise.
                                         
                                        I know, I'm going to.
                                         
                                        A new intro.
                                         
                                        It'll be this month.
                                         
    
                                        Actually, maybe for the next one.
                                         
                                        Because we're coming up on the one year anniversary.
                                         
                                        You're now on the record saying that for November's toast, you'll, we'll be hearing the new intro.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Sorry, not intro, outro.
                                         
                                        I'm not changing my intro.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        But.
                                         
    
                                        Yes, I will give it to you because you're saying that.
                                         
                                        I'm saying that now.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        I've now put it on the record.
                                         
                                        Now, since we're putting things on the record, on the record, I want to say, Bob, I've come around.
                                         
                                        That was a great topic and I enjoyed it with you guys, even a little personal.
                                         
                                        You guys did great.
                                         
                                        Your selections were all amazing.
                                         
    
                                        I love the journey picking.
                                         
                                        Oh, you should have came out some.
                                         
                                        journey.
                                         
                                        Don't stop.
                                         
                                        When I watch the Sopranos finale, it profoundly affected me.
                                         
                                        But we need to hear Rob Proust.
                                         
                                        What is the topic for November's toast?
                                         
                                        Or do you need time?
                                         
    
                                        I don't need time.
                                         
                                        No, you don't get time.
                                         
                                        I don't get time.
                                         
                                        I've been thinking, and I've decided,
                                         
                                        now you sort of had two possibilities last time,
                                         
                                        but you then felt convicted for one.
                                         
                                        I've got two that if you guys want to have an opinion on,
                                         
                                        I'm going to say either food jams or sports jams.
                                         
    
                                        Wait, wait, wait.
                                         
                                        We don't get an input.
                                         
                                        You don't.
                                         
                                        This is the rule.
                                         
                                        You pick the topic.
                                         
                                        We have no veto power.
                                         
                                        I'm going to think out loud.
                                         
                                        So the two that I was thinking of were either jams about food.
                                         
    
                                        Could be whatever that means to you.
                                         
                                        They could be.
                                         
                                        How haven't we done that?
                                         
                                        It doesn't matter.
                                         
                                        It's time to come around.
                                         
                                        We don't have veto power.
                                         
                                        No, you don't.
                                         
                                        Sports.
                                         
    
                                        Who's this veto guy you speak?
                                         
                                        I haven't thought this.
                                         
                                        Vito Corlone.
                                         
                                        Oh, there you go.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Literally have a dude.
                                         
                                        It deserves such a dry martini.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's really good.
                                         
    
                                        Can you do it the hard way or we can do it the easy way?
                                         
                                        Stick out your jaw like this.
                                         
                                        On the day of my daughter's wedding.
                                         
                                        He's good at that.
                                         
                                        Can you do more on Brando now?
                                         
                                        You know he's Superman's dad.
                                         
                                        Do you guys know this?
                                         
                                        Do you know Superman's dead?
                                         
    
                                        Jor L.
                                         
                                        Do you know Superman's song?
                                         
                                        Well, you mentioned Chantelle.
                                         
                                        Superman never made any money
                                         
                                        saving the world for us.
                                         
                                        So we're taking out of a superhero song?
                                         
                                        Oh, Cryptonite by Three Doors Down.
                                         
                                        You save that for your jams.
                                         
    
                                        And there's five for fighting?
                                         
                                        What's their song about,
                                         
                                        they have a Superman song, right?
                                         
                                        There's a lot of...
                                         
                                        What is it going to be?
                                         
                                        Food jams.
                                         
                                        Food jams.
                                         
                                        Jam, jams.
                                         
    
                                        Okay, have we done food jams?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        On toast?
                                         
                                        We have not done any...
                                         
                                        Jams on toast?
                                         
                                        Well, yeah.
                                         
                                        Food jams.
                                         
                                        Oh, I can kick out toast.
                                         
    
                                        Don't talk, don't mention it.
                                         
                                        Don't give away ideas now.
                                         
                                        It can be whatever that means to.
                                         
                                        It could be a title, could be the subject, could be whatever.
                                         
                                        Food jam.
                                         
                                        I was thinking of the Talking Heads.
                                         
                                        They had an album called More Songs about Buildings and the Food.
                                         
                                        And then I thought, oh, yeah, food jams.
                                         
    
                                        That might be cool.
                                         
                                        I don't know why, because I have no idea what I'm going to pick.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't know.
                                         
                                        Don't say anything yet.
                                         
                                        Shasha likes this.
                                         
                                        He put food in many exclamation marks.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Food and sport jams.
                                         
                                        Food and sport.
                                         
                                        So food, glorious food, says Andy.
                                         
                                        So that's it.
                                         
                                        Stop.
                                         
                                        You're going to give them all the way.
                                         
                                        All right.
                                         
                                        November.
                                         
    
                                        New outro and food gems.
                                         
                                        And that.
                                         
                                        But I do like the length I have for this before it gets to
                                         
                                        whatever. You'll have that.
                                         
                                        The mind blows. So new mind blows?
                                         
                                        Yep.
                                         
                                        Love it. Okay. I'm excited.
                                         
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