Toronto Mike'd: The Official Toronto Mike Podcast - Rae Dawn Chong and Mary Jo Eustace: Toronto Mike'd #1420

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

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The Advantage'd Investor podcast from Raymond James Canada. Valuable perspective for Canadian investors who want to remain knowledgeable, informed and focused on long-term success. And Ridley Funeral Home, pillars of the community since 1921. Today, returning to Toronto Miked is both Ray Don Chong and Mary Jo Eustis. Hello ladies. Hello. Hello. We're so excited. Can I just ask a question for the international version? Will my name be first and then her name second? You know, I wrestled with this. I wrestled with this because Mary Jo, we talk a lot.

Yes, correct. And you guys talk a lot in the pod. No, no. Well, I don't get on that pod too often. Like my voice is not on your podcast very often. Right, MJ? but we talk a lot before and after personally yeah like a lot of uh what's up you guys are very intimate you guys are intimate do you listen to we are do you listen to Mary Jo's podcast uh Rae Don Chong yes yes I do I have a really good laugh because I think it's hilarious she educates me often. I learned a lot about her and I also learned a lot about women and people. You know, I learned a lot about David Furnish

that I didn't know about and it was exciting and her recent, in a way it was a gap when she was like this lady, she's like, what are you doing about dating men? And the lady's like, I'm a lesbian. That's good. It's really, I read our was off for that one. So, but you know, why should your radar be on? It's like, I have a friend who has a, I have a friend who was a famous actor who has a daughter who is now a they them, you

know, it's hard to kind of get the pronoun, the pronouns right, you know, without making a thing thing you can't assume just because somebody has a set of boobs and whatever that they're cisgendered, which you know, Ray Don, kids are teaching us stuff. Yeah, above my pay grade. But anyway, she was hilarious. She was great. He was sexy.

Yeah, totally, great. But anyway, she was hilarious. She was great. He was sexy. Yeah, totally. Totally. Please tell the listeners Mary Mary Jo tell the listeners the name of your podcast so they can subscribe right now. Okay, the name of my podcast is called senior bitches. And it's on Apple and Spotify. We were charting all over the world last week, which was absolutely amazing. And Mike is a producer, we've got great guests coming up, we're doing another guy who's got worldwide fame and a total stud, we're going to do that. And some some great guests. And

it's so much fun because we we, I mean, from Dubai to London to France to Canada, to California with this with this beauty here, we find out so many interesting things about how women are aging around the world. And Mike is so super educated, like he at the end of the podcast, he's like, I didn't know that. So it's just been a wild ride. We've been having a blast. Right? Isn't it sad you guys that in 2024, we have to educate people on how to age? Yeah, well, we're not supposed to as women. Remember that we're not supposed to age as women. We're supposed to become invisible. We're not allowed to get stronger and more sexual and more powerful. We're supposed to have like a shaved vagina so that it looks like a really weird piece of whatever a peach. I don't know. I got sort

of sad about that. And you look at someone scrotum after age 35 it's long it is the hooking of the long sack but no one ever says you know you gotta tighten that scrotum dude or your balls and listen i've i've been with some late 50 early 60 men they have really nice balls so it depends but yeah balls that i thought were really nice it always looks like this like undulating earth like like a, like an odd planet that just can't, do you know, it constantly moves. Okay. We're getting a little tighter. Some are a little tighter than others, but anyway, not that I'm an expert, but yeah, but as women were not supposed to a shut up. We're not supposed to a do women

care. That's what I know. Do women care about the balls? Like, like, do you, do you want big balls that hang low or do you like them? Like Mary Jo seems to like them like tight and taut. It's nice when they're tight, like when they're too low. But if they're too shiny, there's something wrong with them. Like you have to have balls that look healthy. You don't want anyone's junk to look like it could be problematic. Oh, you don't want like you want some like natural pubic hair on these balls is what

you're saying. Right, Ray Donner? She likes pubic hair. I'm not a big fan. I'm definitely bushy. And I'll tell you something. One of the reasons is because there's a natural fragrance that comes with hair. And when you don't have hair, it always smells like a product. So for all those people that like it shaved and clean and all that creepiness, you're a little bit pedophilic and you're also creepy. Okay, no judgment here. Okay. A little judgment. Okay. Okay. Balls and pussies. We're off to the races. We're three minutes in.

Okay. Well, that's what I'm hoping for. A nice conversation. Just remember I'm the boss around here, so I'm going to put us in certain directions. But if you two want to go off on a tangent, I will try to get out of the way because I mean, I have Mary Jo Eustace and Ray Don Chong, so it'd be exciting to be a fly on the wall as you guys chat, but I want to just open. Yeah, we want you. We need you. We love you and we know that you've had an incredible year. You're we're lucky to have

you. You almost died. Yeah. Okay. Well, I don't want like I want to drill into that. Like I feel like you guys might have questions for me, but just I want to acknowledge the fact this is episode 1420, which means it's like the second 420 episode, which begs the question, do either of you smoke weed? Do you smoke? No, I do. I'm gummy obsessed.

So I've hit that's not smoking weed. Okay, so you know, I've got a vape, I have a vape, but I don't smoke weed. No, Mary Jo is the partaker. She's the little stoner. I don't I don't do anything. I was raised with it and I stopped smoking weed officially when I was 18. And then because it's my dad's religion, I officially when I was 18. And then because it's my dad's religion, I kind of rebelled and it's not my religion. I mean, I was more

of a drinker and then it's been seven years since I had a drink and I don't do anything now. Okay. Congrats on the seven years. That's amazing. How is your father Tommy Chong doing? You know, he's good. He's, he's got a new documentary coming out and it's premiering at South by Southwest. It's the premier opener for South by Southwest. It's the Chichen Chow's last movie that my sister produced with Dave Bouchelle directing. So Robbie Chung and Dave Bouchelle have organized the most beautiful documentary about Chichen Chow. It's fabulous. I mean, that's amazing. I didn't know about this, but this so I think 2024 will have a lot of Tommy Chong talk and resurgence and maybe he's 85 and he's got all these like

strange businesses with you know, with his product. So that's kind of cool. And I know that this one company is pushing a lot of the gummies like ad nauseum. So I think he should be doing well. I'm not that underfoot with him. So I appreciate my father and I really love him. And I'm grateful that he's my dad in a way. He was, he's a better comedian than he is a father. But I do love them. And yeah, I think 2024 it to me, my dad is so famous. Like he's one guy you can't. If you walk around as me, nobody really recognizes me. It's not a big deal. I mean, I get some true by the way. That's not true. You know, I it's not like people don't lose their, you know, I'll go to a restaurant or walk or go somewhere with my dad and people can lose it. Like it's that level. It's the next level of fame that I can I put up my hand and tell a story?

Am I allowed? OK, so when I read on this hysterical, she's got an RV and this is her whole life. She's got this RV. Is it one bedroom? I don't know what it is, but she's driven around the country with it. And so it's amazing. It's like it's her paradise.

So what she does is she goes out to the beach and we go along with her in the RV. She makes this delicious food and she sits outside. She takes care of us. It's like this transportable home. And the very first time I did that it was for her birthday. And it was in February. And we went to where we saw the hot red hot chili peppers surfing that guy, whatever his name is. Yeah. Yeah. So we don't want to say the name of we don't want to say the name of the beach because it's a secret find. It's a secret beach. And a lot of people go that happen to be famous because, okay, so I won't say the name. I forgot it anyway. So we go for this lunch and it's, um, Radon's birthday.

And she's, you know, right before your 21 day fast and she's making this beautiful lunch. And I meet her dad for the first time. Right. And what I noticed about the meeting is her dad was like, we don't, we don't, I did this. We don't, we don't what I noticed about the meeting is her dad was like, we're done. We're done. I did this. We're done. We're done. I did that. We're done. Like he was wanted her approval and her attention and she could do no wrong. And it was, he was so visibly viscerally proud of you. It was just incredible and just so charming, so unassuming, but like always out of the corner of his eye, his daughter, it was really beautiful to watch.

I'll tell you something that's interesting. I had a near death experience in Morocco. I was on a movie called Things I Forgot to Remember. And in the coma that I was in, I took what happened was I took this very strong antibiotic. I thought the French Moroccan doctor said take three pills on an empty stomach three times a day. Actually what he said is take one pill with food three times a day. So I took six pills with no food and I went into renal failure and went into I had a seizure. I'm in alone.

I'm in Morocco in a hotel I'm on a shoot and I have a seizure. Thank God I was in Morocco because I think if I was in America Nobody would have touched me, but they put me in a room. They wrapped me up They got it the doctor to come back and he was able to put some adrenaline in and I wrote it out Well, I was in the coma My father's voice and I was super near death and I started to ask questions about what happens to humanity, what happens to us when we die. And um, and one of the big questions I had was, uh, what is God?

And it told me it was a feminine principle and then it was all done in my dad's voice. What is God? And it was me it was a feminine principle and it was all done in my dad's voice. What is God? And it was Tommy Chon the whole time. It was so weird. And then another thing it taught me was where you die, that is your birthday and your birthplace of your next life. So as soon as you die, I didn't die there, but you didn't die. I did it, but I was close.

And since I was in Morocco and I'm a woman, apparently I kept saying not here, not here, not here because women have no, I don't know if you've ever been to Morocco, but women are treated pretty poorly. It's sad. And I had been there for almost a month at that point and I was very fluent on Moroccan customs. You know, women do all the work, they do all the animal husbandry, they do all the agriculture, and what do the men do?

They go to the cafe and talk politics. And they have convinced the female population of Morocco that this is an actual fucking job. Sounds worldwide. Convince the female population of Morocco that this is an actual fucking job Hmm sounds worldwide. So I'm there going And your dad came to you sort of in your when you were crossing over Well, I kind of made me think Wow that we had some kind of deep connection and it was just strange Yeah, yeah, you just don't think when you're in a coma that you're your focus. So I know it's complicated with you and your dad, Ray Dawn, like obviously and and but

I'm wondering, are you at a point where you'll attend the the big premiere of this documentary? Like will you attend that? I will come I will come to the LA screening, but I won't go to Austin, Texas. I won't go to South by Southwest. For one thing, it's his moment, but I'll definitely go to the LA screening, but I won't go to Austin, Texas. I won't go to South by Southwest. For one thing, it's his moment, but I'll definitely go to the LA screening because I'm excited to see it. I haven't seen it and we're in it. So, yeah. I want to come Mary Jo quick production notes. I'm curious now. And then I want to, I want Ray Dawn to talk more about me for a few moments if that's okay. But this is important. When

I, when we hook up and we record the excellent podcast senior bitches hook up Yes, and you often refer to me as a bitch and I kind of like it when you call me bitch And it's fun this thing we do but you always we get your USB mic. We set it up It's so you sound so amazing. Did you do you not have the USB microphone? Do I sound bad no now, now you sound better. I think it was too far away. Like I was just like, she sounds like she's in a bathroom. Okay.

You sound much better. You know, it's funny, you guys just reminded me. Let me get my snowball going. You guys talk. Okay, get it working. And did you want to ask me a real question or were you just making fun of me on a national podcast? Just curious.

No, I'm making fun of you. No, I just wondered why we weren't, you didn't sound as good for this show as you do on your great podcast, Senior Bitches. So I just had the microphone on. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious.

I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. I'm just curious. Not making fun of you. No, I just wondered why we weren't, you didn't sound as good for this show as you do on your great podcast, Senior Bitches. So I just had the mic over to the side. So I didn't pull it in front of me. I wish you had reminded me. We've been like on the air for two hours. I wish you had told me about my audio. Mary Jo, let me tell the listenership

about your Toronto mic debut. Cause if somebody listening to this is like, I want to hear that A to Z of Mary Jo Eustace's life and times in her career like I want to send them to episode 1145 and we recorded that in November 2022 and then I'm gonna read the description. I wrote at the time you ready MJ Yeah, I think so You ready MJ and I said, yes. Should I be medicated?

Just go. Okay. Roll it out. Bitch. Like that when I talked to him like that, I do like it when MJ calls me bitch. I don't know what that says about me, but okay. Shut up and read. Shut up and read.

Okay, go in this 1145th episode of Toronto mic'd Mike with, I'm going to say this name now because it's going to come up a bit, Dean McDermott and Mary Jo Eustace about how they fell in love, why Dean left the marriage and married Tori Spelling, the tabloid circus that followed, and how they learned to be friends again. And then I talked about how you can subscribe to the new podcast, X's and Uh uh-ohs and we talked for you know a good hundred minutes, but reading that description now What about 18 months later? It's it sounds like it's from the 1930s or something like it's like Holy Smoke like did that happen?

What say you MJ and then what say you Rae Don Chung? What happened there? I Like that you said holy smokes. My aunt Sue used to say that she was a nun. She would say holy smokes. Holy smokes. What happened? Like what happened? Like the quick version.

Well, yeah, because we did what you've been on to talk about the fact that you know that project we had with Dean McDermott fell apart fairly quickly. Like we recorded 11 episodes and we dropped a couple and then he tapped out and we had with Dean McDermott fell apart fairly quickly. Like we recorded 11 episodes and we dropped a couple and then he tapped out and we had speculated about why we thought he tapped out. But maybe now is the time to just tell us all maybe the short version of how X's and uh-oh's became senior bitches. Oh my god. Okay. Well, because my friend Ray dawns on she is a truth serum. She can do it. No, I'll do it. I can talk for myself. I'll tell. Yeah, I did the X's now podcast with my ex husband. And the question was, can you can you reconnect with your ex and

have it copacetic? And we went on this journey. And the whole thing blew up. Essentially, it blew up because his wife, I guess she's going to be his ex wife soon did not like it. She was uncomfortable with it. Their dynamics, by the way, have nothing to do with it anymore. And it's like the greatest liberation in my life. And so it was important for me to try that journey because it was such a significant event in my life to have my personal life implode so publicly and all the damage and collateral damage, which is my children, my, my livelihood, everything to actually address it. My intention was to go into it in an authentic way to examine this, to come to some sort

of healing, to set out a template for other people who were going to go through this. So this was my, my original reason for doing it. But in actuality, I just put myself right back into the line of fire. So I take full responsibility for entering a situation that wasn't safe. But what I've learned from that has been so extraordinary. And it put me on a trajectory of where I really want to be,

which is senior bitches talking about aging and the beauty and the mess of life. And Ray Don and I talk about this all the time about the ugly, the beautiful, the highs, the lows, how you have to embrace it all and go through it and learn your task and your lesson. So I see it as part of my, uh, evolution and quite frankly, to sum it up really quickly and clearly, I am so excited that I have nothing to do with vile individuals. And I will say that to anybody who asks. I think my ex-husband is living in a halfway home, rain, Alan food stamps and proud of it. And we have complete distance and I can look at it and go, wow, I want nothing to do with that. I've learned

what I needed to learn from that situation will probably continue to learn from that situation. But it was an opportunity to deepen with his children. Exactly. It was really good, because they had some they had some false idea of him. And they were able to live it out. Right and this was like the biggest gift because it's always grass is greener on the other side especially for my daughter who was in the process of being adopted by Dean and then he went and met Tori and they did their movie. They actually got pregnant with a child and then signed off on Lola's adoption so Lola wanted to explore that situation and see what that relationship was like. But in actuality, and this is the first time

I'm saying this anywhere, called People Magazine, Mike, when Lola and I had a disagreement, which you do have with teenagers, thank you, she went to stay with Tori and Dean. But what that was all about is they wanted her to sell stories to the press about me and to do interviews and make money. And Lola to her credit at 17 years. Yes, you mean Tori spelling uses her children for

press. Oh, shocker shockers spelling uses children to get press what? Head blown, brains blown. So Lola declined and said I'm not taking money to make money off this. Or I mean, I'm sure it wasn't even that she was like what she so she she said no. And then shortly after she said no, they tried to throw her to the house. So there's a whole other story behind that. But the healing at the end of the day, a year later, and this is all true, I can go into a million pieces of detail, but I won't hear. I healed my relationship with my children. And that is the best game going.

My daughter's in pre-med. My son lives a mile away from me. He's going to do his LSATs. I talk to him every day. Raydaunt, I want you to talk about Christmas Eve. So the healing that's come from it. It was the greatest gift. Dean in his marital explosion and Tori in her sadness and obvious, you know, complex of needing to have publicity.

It blew up, but it made your family closer, completely transparent. All of the mom's a bad person came out and it wasn't true and if but it was scary and it was horrible It was like the worst best thing to ever happen to you Yeah, I used to call you from Rome and go what the fuck we were holding we were holding MJ together Because let's face it magic Mike people in our I know a culture it a magic mic, but Toronto Mic. People in our culture, particularly in our society, we only celebrate when things are

good and people win. We don't really value equally when things go rotten and it's completely horrifying and it's equally as valuable to a process. Yeah. So to be honest, it's like when someone's winning, winning, winning, winning, you know because of the laws of nature, they're gonna have to reverse. And instead of going, you know, instead of treating people like they have a disease when they're going through hard times, we need to be equally as impressed. Wow.

It's bad and you're doing pretty damn good. And that, I think, should be the lesson here. You're only as good as how shitty things are. And if you get through without losing your balance, you're golden. You're what I call butterfly. Let me... Yeah, it was a journey. Let me just chime in and say, MJ, just as your friend, okay, as your friend, I am so

like, happy that you not only repair the relationship with your kids, like, because as I said to you through this whole process, nothing else is going to fucking matter here. Like it's like you got these two kids and your relationship with them is everything and you can't let these external factors Fuck that up and you repaired it and it sounds like you build it back better here Like it sounds like it's really strong and you're dropping, you know, I'm jealous here. It's better Yeah, like the daughter is gonna be a doctor. The the son's gonna be a lawyer or whatever. It's like what the fuck is going on there I gotta get my shit together But I'm just so happy for that.

Like all the rest is just noise. Your relationship with your kids is everything. Bravo, Angie. Yeah, it was. Here's the award. Yeah, and I had incredible support with RD in particular. And I remember whenever she would say to me, this is bad, I knew it was bad because she will never say that. And she'd go, oh me, this is bad. I knew it was bad. She will never

say that and she'd go, Oh God, this is fucked up. But again, you know, really I was not getting along with my daughter who was 17. Let's look at hundreds of millions of parents around the world. That's not, you know, teenage daughter, single mom, not the great greatest recipe. And we were having issues and then something you know it happened and then it gets in the press like that happens every day and you know what's interesting is the shame of that and the humiliation of that once I let go of that once I let go of the perfect mom's going oh my daughter's a cheerleader in straight a's and she you know cleans up and everything yeah I'm like my daughter's not living with me and once I let go of that as a mom,

that was so powerful. And then I gave the space for all of this to heal and all of this mess to, to resolve. It wasn't easy, but it was like the best thing we ever went through. So it is good. Fuck the press, right? Like fuck the press. Like I had that little taste we talked about it, MJ. Radon, we haven't talked about it because it happened after our last chat, which I'm going to tell people about in a minute. But that little taste, and again, I know it was your son's Instagram that was reproduced by people and then it got picked up by whatever, Us Weekly and all these places, this unnamed producer betraying Dean's trust and this and that. And I'm thinking, at least fucking name that producer, right? Give me some press, some real publicity.

Raedon, what was it like for you in California, reading the tabloids, dragging this unnamed producer? I was really sad for you, Mike, and I knew that you were probably in shock because it's such vitriol. In fact right now to be honest, I I've been sort of Just watching the Kanye West and his creepy wife and that whole Art that thing he's doing with her. He's just denigrating her and she's not smart enough to realize that it's not good the the setup and the way the press and people are allowing in a way this weirdness. And I kind of think it's reflective of our culture that people will let the worst behavior

happen and not step up and not step in. And people will buy it and keep eating it, whether it's a Nazi, whether it's a poor, literally watching in real time a woman be abused by a sociopath. And I think, what does that say about our culture, our society? I mean, it's just rotten. Yeah, I literally don't even know a thing about this, Raedon. So it's like… I want you to, while we're talking, to go on your phone and type in Kanye West's wife and see what shows up. It's unreal.

Yeah. He like crops her in a garbage bag and takes her places. She has clothes that she comes, he makes her walk, stay walking public and she's naked and she basically wearing a dog collar. It's unreal. What? Super, super hot, super sexy. But for you, but for you, what's, what's in your a hundred percent right. And, and, and your experience Mike of it was like when you get caught up in it,

Ray Don you've had this too with your press and all this stuff. Once you get in that machine calling Oprah the N word. Yeah. Your Oprah incident. I've had the world hate me. I've had the world hate me. What was the context there? What's the context there? You're unfiltered. The context was that I had in 2014, I did a podcast and I said how I was, I was complimenting Oprah that she was so successful. And I had just seen Django Unchained

like four or five times because I thought it was a really good movie. And I was all N-worded up. And I sat on a bed and said, you know, Oprah's really impressive because back in the day, she wouldn't have been a house and she would have been a field. Like Sam Jackson in that movie. Back in the day. And TMZ took it on a Friday news dump and said Radon Chong calls Oprah an N-word.

See, that's such bullshit. You got done dirty there because the context is all lost in that headline. Well, of course I got done dirty, but that's the rule of press. The English invented the shitty press. So I don't know. I'm not as smart as Disraeli, but I do want to say that this recent gossip of how Oprah doesn't pay people or that's the rumor allegedly or that Tyler Perry, I kind of think it's important for our culture to survive that the idols get pierced, that these false narratives get pierced.

The fact that we just put celebrity on a pedestal without saying, is their origin story true? Are these people being authentic? And it turns out, no. I mean, even, you know, looking at Trump's story, there's nothing authentic about his life. He's a complete, you know, it's a complete lie. You know, but I think I think it's important to be authentic. Wait, Donald Trump was disingenuous? I know he's orange, but disingenuous? Oh my God, and how many people has he murdered? I mean, come on.

But they're trying to do it now. Or raped or whatever. Which is really, really good. We'll get back to the state of the union, but go ahead, MJ. Yeah, but point being, because I think of Mike as pure as driven as a Canadian snow. Like, I just think of Mike as pure as driven as a Canadian snow like I just think of this lovely Canadian. Does that take away his balls? I mean shouldn't we say no? We talk all the time about how super hot and sexy is that's what we talk about.

If you say he's pure as a driven snow he's boring. No but I'm just saying so like and so nice and kind and so we get into doing this podcast with Dean. And we think that, you know, we're going to change the world. And then he gets done dirty. And I mean, he had like a taste of it and he was traumatized. Here's the thing about the whole Dean thing that I, that I think Mike is, is really something that's reflective of you. This is a ha ha moment.

I'm ready. Here's the aha moment. something that's reflective of you. This is a ha ha moment. I'm ready. Here's the aha moment. Dean to me, it personifies the neutered powerlessness of the distorted masculine. Oh, I like that. That's good. Who neutered him? Is it Tory spelling who neutered him? Where did the new know he was? He came in neutered, he was neutered because he doesn't, he has, he would, his mom, his mom neutered him because Dean doesn't know how powerful he is. And the job of a mother is to encourage children, male or female, to, to find their power. And how do you disempower a child, especially a male child?

You never let them find and discover. How about this ball? That they can fly. And kids need to find out that they could find their way home, that they can survive, that they can pass a test. They don't need to be, you know, coddles and, and he's a Gen Xer. I feel like he was, I mean, he's older than I am. Like he was coming home when

the lights went on, when the street lights went on and stuff like that. Like he wasn't, you know, bubble wrapped in rays. Well, we don't know. But obviously, because if you think, you know, whenever somebody dumps you for somebody they think is rich, but whenever somebody dumps you for somebody they think has more social standing or is rich that's an immediate sign of disempowerment like if you are a powerful truly powerful person you would never even consider Being that shallow Are you suggesting though a part of the allure of Tori spelling to Dean and the reason he left his marriage Part of the allure of Tori Spelling to Dean and the reason he left his marriage is that her father is of, was sorry, cause he's passed away, shadowed to Ridley funeral home, but

Aaron Spelling was a very, very rich man. Yeah, I am actually alluding to that, that I think he thought he had married into money and little did he know that hit her mom. Candy is greedy. Well, you know, it's also really interesting. We like project a lot of like way more interesting qualities onto these people who are train wrecks and we should even bother. You know, some people are about it, but you have grump about it. I don't even feel grumpy about it. I feel sad for Dean, because Dean is like on food stamps. Quickest quick interjection to say before the done dirty

in the press and the whole thing there that I was traumatized by as MJ said, I don't think I was traumatized. You was, you saved it to me. But were you traumatized because you'd never had anyone speak badly of it? No, God, no, first of all, no, I'm not an angel, I'm not a saint, okay? But that was my first taste of like the tabloids

doing you dirty. And I just said to MJ that I think I experienced 0.01% of what you went through and I felt some compassion and some empathy for MJ. I don't think, I was not even traumatized by that. I just thought it was unfair that this was said about me because it's not how it went down. But I wanna say, this is my interjection is to say

that before that, I don't know what this says about me because it's not how it went down. But I want to say, this is my interjection is to say that before that, I don't know what this says about me, but I really liked Dean McDermott. I actually thought Dean and I were friends. This is why it really bugged me because we did had private Zooms and we connected and we'd shoot the shit about hockey and we're both Toronto guys. And I just felt like we were buddies and then I was double-crossed and I never heard from him again and that hurt me like on some like human level. Well you know it's crazy it's your Canadian this is one thing I like about being a Canadian because I'm Canadian too is that we believe people. How do you get a full a pool full of Canadians out you say you just tell them in America

they're gonna tell you to fuck off or Britain's fuck off Wait, we're like so sweet, right? So you believed him and the thing about Dean. I think he's got a couple personalities I don't think there's only one Dean in there I think for you to to ditch yourself and to not have power you've got a split. I think he's got a big split or two Okay, that's enough about him. That's okay. So here's what we do Yeah, so my question for we're gonna do. Yeah. So my question for Ray Dawn is where exactly is the microphone? Because I noticed when you made the change, you got more distant.

How about this? Okay, there's a snowball. Now I can see it. Can you see my snowball? Okay, that's better. I can see your snowball. I can see it. MJ here.

Okay. Is that better? Yeah, that's better. Yes, much better. Let me tell the listenership that Ray Don Chong has been on Toronto Miked before. She's already an FOTM. We connected in December 2022. This was episode 1165. And this is the description I wrote at the time. In this 1165th episode of Toronto Miked, Mike is joined by actress Ray Don Chong as they discuss her career from Quest for Fire to Commando

and beyond. We talked about your father, Tommy Chong. You told us a story. Let me tell you this, Ray Don Chong. And I have to say all three names. MJ, what do you call her? RD? No, I'm Ray Don Chong. By the way, I made Bill Maher's show today. Yeah, I'm going to play it. I'm going to play it. I have it. I have it. I have it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I called her RD. Hey, you know, whatever. Okay. So Ray Don Chon, I like all three names, but Ray Don Chon told a story about Mick Jagger when she came on Toronto Mike that made the best of we have every 250 episodes. We have best ofs and Al Grego put that revelation in the best of episode as a mind blow like that was quite the drop like how young you were how young you looked and what you did with Mick Jagger that was quite a bomb.

And it impacted my career I have to give him thank you because I was able to do his solo album video running out of luck. And then that got, that helped me get Commando. So. And the rest is history. But it's kind of like tough to hear that, right? Cause you were, what were you 14? 15. 15, but you said you looked 12 or something,

but you were 15. Probably. I look like a little Moroccan boy, a 12 year old Moroccan boy, which means basically that they're all, all the guys that I was fooling around with are gay That how it works I gotta take notes over. Yeah, because I had no shape I was just this little thin thing and I look like a little Moroccan boy Just so you know, so if we do that if we do the math, does that mean that Mick Jagger's gay?

We don't know Not that there's anything wrong with that. Not that listen, my son's a gayest of the gay of the gay. There's nothing wrong with it. I support it. But interesting. Mary Jo, you're so cute. She's so proud of her son being gay. You know, I'm so proud. I actually have four kids, but two are like prepubescent. So I have no idea what's going to happen there. But the first two turned out straight. And I am mildly disappointed

that I have like a couple of should be, you should be having a gay son. First of all, his hygiene is very glamorous. So glamorous. Well, on Christmas Eve, we went to his Christmas party and there were drag queens and we sang, um, coming down the chimney with your tits out. Remember that song? It's a really good, it's a very mesmerizing song. It's just a story you wanted Yeah, I want to hear the story from me dawn because I think earlier MJ You said you wanted Ray Dawn to talk talk about Chris and Steve So Ray Don Chong talk about that party and then I'm gonna play Bill Maher from this week Okay, so here's the thing

We went to Jack's apartment and he had friends who happened to be professional dancers and performers and a couple of them were in deep drag and what I learned is and this is something I didn't know. There is a plethora of Christmas songs, sung not mostly by women rappers that are pretty X rated and they're all about Santa and one of them is about coming down the chimney with down the chimney with your tits out center baby we sing it all it's a really like it's on actually and you wouldn't know that if you're at a normal Christmas party no I mean a couple of drag queens there all dressed up. One

was dressed up as Barbie. One was in a leather skirt with a beard. And then we knew that it was showing. Remember? Yeah, then Ray Don pointed out his balls were showing that was that was one of the naked but it was pretty funny. Yeah, he was super cute. I talked to that that girl guy at the end. They were all really beautiful and j Beautiful remember that wasn't a dog in the in the no dogs and remember that one of Jack's friends It was a woman did the splits during the tits up They call him and I guess I shouldn't say this anymore I bet it's not political

No, that she was like a fag hag, but you can't say that anymore because people get offended. So I say, I say that knowing that it's not right, but she was their little fat chubby friend who could dance better than all of them. She was awesome. She was awesome. But what was also really interesting work. She had so much. I was jealous. I know she did that. Um, but what was really cool. What was really cool at that party is a lot of the kids there was some and I call them kids that are under 30. A lot of them were displaced because their parents would not have them home for Christmas. One of them remember that great guy we talked to his mom really didn't accept him. Massachusetts where they call them mass holes for a reason. But Massachusetts is a place you know where they they call them Masks for a reason but

Massachusetts is a place, you know what they talk like this and everybody's like, you know really masculine and But actually, you know the num the math ain't math and there's a lot of gay kids in Massachusetts To you my church is pretty prominent there, but it was such a fabulous New Year's Christmas Eve we had such a great time. So fun. How often do you two see each other? Not as much as I'd like, but because now Mary Jo lives away and she does yoga, she doesn't come to bar class.

We used to take bar classes, see each other almost every day. Yeah, which was good. But if you got big plans coming out, she doesn't do Aikido. I do Aikido. I'm obsessed with Aikido. And we play tennis. We do our tennis. We do our tennis. That's true. And Mary Jo, we have to play because I have to practice. I'm playing singles in my next nut. Okay. I'll get you going. I need to practice. Okay. Quick question. So like if Ray Don Chong left the zoom and started walking to where MJ is right now, how long until Ray Don Chong reaches Mary Jo Eustace?

Oh, if I wrote it would take about 15 minutes. So 20 minutes, 20 minutes. Yeah. Okay. We're super close. And the other thing too, this is just we're just giving you tip bits. Is this good? Do you want tip bits? I want everything. He's playing with this there. So what's really cool is during the award season, I'm Ray Don's plus one bitch, which I love. So I get to go to the most amazing parties, we go to all the screenings, like we get so excited about the appetizers after the film. And I want to say that screenings, they're not just screens are private screenings for Academy members with all the filmmakers in attendance. Yeah, so we saw Saltburn with everybody there, like all the actors we've seen.

Jacob Elordi, all the gorgeous boys. Barry, I don't know how to pronounce his last name. Kogan, Kogan. Yeah, he was adorable. I was talking to him and I went up to him. I'm such an idiot. I didn't, he's been nominated for an Oscar, but he was so good in the film.

So I go over to him. He's itsy bitsy and I said, you know what? You're gonna become really well known from this film. And he was so nominated for an Oscar, but he was so good in the film. So I go over to him. He's itsy bitsy. And I said, you know what? You're going to become really well known from this film. And he was so sweet to me. He was like, oh, Mary Jo, that's so sweet of you. And then this woman walks up to him, your friend, and says, what was it like to fuck a grave? And he's like, what?

You know, and that because it's the scene in the film. By the way, that was improv. Oh, charming. That was improv. Yeah, that was an improv. That scene I seen this movie. So Sulphurne, I watched it. I quite liked it.

Very much liked it. And that scene reminded me of American Pie. Yeah. Did that happen in American Pie? Well, he fucked the pie. I think Sulphurne's very erotic. I liked it a lot. We loved it.

And that female director was there. And that Jacob Elradi. Emerald Finale. Jacob is the most handsome man I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, yes. He's Elvis in Priscilla. Yeah, we didn't really like it. It felt like a painful, it's not that good. I felt like we were being snuffed in a sweater. It felt like somebody was suffocating us. Remember we just felt so suffocated by Priscilla. And there was no food after so we were pissed. So we love because we love our snacks after you forget to come see your movie

I was I was disappointed as Ella, but I really like salt burn, but I saw movie the other day I'm curious if you two have seen it you probably have that I was blown away by past past lives Yes, I want to see I loved it. I haven't seen it yet It was beautiful. It was beautiful. Like MJ and I agree. That actor, I have to say, I have to give a shout out to a film I'm in that I love called The Mistress and that actor stars in The Mistress and he's amazing. Which actor? He's the white guy, the guy Jen. Oh, the boyfriend? The husband.

The husband, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Arthur. So John stars in The Mistress and it's a really good movie and he star It's a horror movie and he's fantastic and I play his wife's mother. Okay, so this past lives I'm not too you have to see it already see no spoilers in this except to say that okay MJ gorgeous movie beautiful movie thought-provoking It's sparked so many conversations. I had with my wife afterwards about Just the whole the whole thing was so well written and so well acted. And I learned a little Korean, I think. So it was just perfect.

Is your wife Korean? No, no, she's, uh, no, she's of Filipino descent, but I learned, uh, Korean from this movie cause they're Korean in the, in the film. Oh, that's good, Mike. So which are you trilingual now? Yeah, I'll try anything. You know that. OK, all right.

I know you'll spill it. You'll spill it. Bill Maher. OK, we're going to jump around. I like it when we jump around. OK, shout out to House of Pain. But I'm going to play a bit from Bill Maher show this week. M.J., do you know what I'm going to play?

Yes. And she was right about this. Yes, she sent it to me and I said once you get under the collective consciousness and she's getting all this energy coming away. Okay, well let me play it and then we'll discuss this energy. I want to hear if Ray Don is experiencing some energy boosting here. But here, let's play this clip from Bill Maher. What's trending on Twitter? Dementia Don because clip from Bill Maher. What's trending on Twitter? Dementia Don because Trump was talking about Nancy Pelosi during January 6th, but he kept calling her Nikki Haley.

Nikki Haley did this. He also referred to the president of North Korea as Ray Don Chung So the win for the win, so how did you feel when you heard that your name was dropped in the the Bill Maher? I thought it was a really good punchline I think the joke is excellent and I think if you've got a three gong name Why not get some heat from it? And I have a little bit of a soft spot for Mr. Bill. I've known him for a long, long, long time. No, I didn't go to bed with him, but I have known him for a long time and have a lot of

friends who have dated him. And I love him. I used to go on a couple of his shows and I just, you know, I wish one day that I would get a hit TV series so I could go and smack him around a bit on his new show or on the show he's got now. I love him. I like him too. I do too. I also did not sleep with Bill Maher.

I just want to throw that out there. But a lot of people don't like him. I have a lot of female friends who don't like him. I actually once saved him at a car park at a valet. One of my crazy but very smart feminist girlfriends attacked him. And I had to kind of step between them. She was ready to punch him out because she thinks he's using misogynist. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a few things that really but he was one of the comedians that but he was one of the comedians that took my side during the

Oprah debacle. And so like he and Chelsea Handler were really supportive. I thought, do you know, he got into the same trouble two years ago for exactly what you said. I can't remember who he said it about, but he had to come out and apologize. He said, I didn't apologize and I won't apologize. He did. No, no, no, no, but he apologize. I just want to go to record. I remember Ray Dawn has licensed, I think I Ray Dawn Chong has licensed to use that word that Bill Maher does not have license to use. Well, you'll although if you go to if you speak to some serious African Americans, they would say I don't because you know, when you look at somebody who's mixie, immediately they say your mother was raped because it's a it's a very deep ancestral wound that

hearkens back to 400 years of repressed oppression and slavery and torture and misery so there are there's a big swath of the community that says no you have to be pitch black to be able to use but it's how you identify or Dave Chappelle okay goodness gracious I love Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle. Or Cat Williams, who's becoming more in love with Cat Williams. Okay, so lots of ground to cover. But there are many a Trump or who has used that term to for the former president of the United States, Barack Obama, whose mom is very, very white.

Well, he's in a different context. Still thinks Barack Obama that he's running against him. Yeah, he thinks he's running against Obama. And you know what I love about that? It's just that Obama is seared into his brain. And what's so amazing is Obama... What brain? What brain?

Yeah, exactly. Seared into whatever is left of that mush pile. I mean, when you see the list of drugs that they were doing in the White House, have you heard about that story? Can I quote this to you? Okay, so this is from a quote, a tweet. Sorry. I thought I've been, though it's not called that. That's what I call it. But Ray Don Chong on Twitter, I took a note here, White House pharmacists reportedly distributed uppers and downers

like candy to Trump administration officials during his time in office. Is that what you're referring to? Yes. Doesn't that make sense? And heroin, dude, it's not just that. It's fentanyl, it's heroin, it's diazepam, it's profagil, which is a cognitive medicine. But it's not just the fact that these were the drugs that were swilling around the hallway of the oval. It's how much.

It's page after page after page. Is this just for him or is this for all the stuff? Well, it doesn't say who it's for. But you can tell the cognitive medicine, Prophagil. There's a lot of it. Also fentanyl. He's been rumors about frontal frontal load, low dementia, like he's like completely his brain. I can't even imagine. Prophagil also apparently creates lesions on your hands, sores, because people are saying this is the whole thing with his hands bleeding and everything like that. But all I can say is if Biden had this kind of, you know, list of meds coming in and out of the hallways, it's unbelievable. I mean, it's a kind of like, it's

like, it's a bacchanalia of pills and really strong drugs. We're talking morphine fentanyl. And as somebody who grew up with drugs, that's a lot of drugs. But there's no equivalency. I mean, like the Republicans and their messaging and what they do, they don't even have 400 Biden. He just happens to be an addict. And have 400 Biden, he just happens to be an addict. And by the way, he was in the car when his sister and his mother died. And by the way, he wasn't president. And by the way, no, but the hatred for Hunter Biden is not

he didn't sit there and rape America. How long did Trump date his daughter for? Like, I'd like to nail that. God, it's so bad. What year? Pre his marriage? Is he still a singer? Anyway, there's an FOTM. What about the fact that Trump is like besties with Epstein for decades? He denies that now. I think at this point, those who support Trump don't really seem to give a fuck

about his character or what he's done And at this point it seems to be that a Republican in the White House somehow this will I don't know ban abortion or I think Trump should go to jail and he should be surrounded by Trumpers Listen he could very well go to jail but I here's something and I read this guy and I wanted he has to pay it's called Yeah, so his name is Jeff Tiedrich, I believe and I find him on Substack. He calls him fucking Yeah, I read them all the time. But here's the actual deal about the $83.3 million that he's gonna have the appeals, the bales, the bonds, the shit that you have to put

up for all of this. He is hemorrhaging money. He is losing so much money throughout this. So he's you know, going he's gone to his base already to get the $2 donations. But actually, the amount of money and the $367 million is prohibitive for him. Like he can't just walk away from this shit, you know, he has to pay, he's responsible to the court. So it's just every day he doesn't pay there's interest compound interest on 83 million dollars Anyway, Eugene Carroll was a distinguished writer prior decades to change

every years Seeing her with her lawyer. Her lawyer is a fucking pit bull and they're like if you After we're going after him again. And to this was so interesting to see EG and Carol interviewed by Rachel Maddow and all these people because she didn't sleep of course you wouldn't a week before you go into the courtroom. And when she sat down in front, she thought she would pass out. She actually lost her ability to speech for a couple of days. But when she sat down in the courtroom and looked over at him, she was like, Oh my God, the emperor with no clothes.

He's just orange. He's nothing. He's nothing. So as a woman, as a woman, Trump, I mean, it'll be interesting to see who dies first by the way. But here's the thing that I got a little nervous about it and the press are doing it. The mainstream press are doing it. They keep showing photographs of Robbie Kaplan. They keep talking about her and when you find out that Mitt Romney

has to pay $5,000 a day to protect his family security. Yeah, just voting to impeach the loser. Imagine what Robbie Kaplan has to pay because now her face is everywhere. And I kind of think they need to stop that because there are losers out there with AR 15. They can't stop it. They can't stop it. It's not the train is left the station. I know the trains left the station. He's created this culture of diver, you know, divisiveness of hatred. He says the unspeakable.

Stop taking photos at me showing Robbie's face. But they have to she goes on every show. Bonnie Willis having to do decoy. I mean, you guys this guy I mean, I think we're not going to be thoroughly recovered from him. It's going to take at least 25 years. It's going to take generations. Yeah. Generations from this man. Anyway, Trump and Dean too much airtime next.

And he showed in Mary Jo. I don't think Dean is as bad, although he. No, no, Dean, Dean, who I quite again, I quite liked until he double crossed me. Okay. You seem to be a charming guy. We just feel sorry for him. I don't want to try my time, you know, dragging too much air time, but okay. Go next. Last question on Dean is this very last question is when you learned that there was a separation between a Tory spelling and Dean McDermott, did you

Mary Jo Eustace experience any Scholdenfroid? You can't answer for Mary Jo. You're shut the fuck up. But the what I experienced was I've known about this for years. He's been telling me for years about this. He lives in on top of the garage, the animal shit all over the house. That's why they had mold, because the pig had diarrhea in the bedroom, whatever. Like I've known about this for years and years and years. I could not care less. I really couldn't. I just think the whole

thing is the trashiest, most ridiculous thing I've ever seen on a benign level. But the real level of like the collateral damage of what it's done and impacted my life is a very different thing. I could not. I couldn't care less. No, because you repair the relationship with your two kids. So why would you care about this noise over there? I do not. And you kind of see it coming. It's the writing on the wall, you know,

and I've heard about the writing on the wall for about six or seven years from okay, did you hear about MJ? You you were you had a child, you had Jack together as a married couple. And then you were you had a child you had Jack together as a married couple and then you were a dog I believe he's the father don't quote me That's none of my business I suppose but you have a child you're you're in the process of adopting Lola and Then he leaves you for for tory spelling. I would think that I remember yeah I'm just recapping it for the audience

But when you learn that you know he like you, allegedly, he's living above this garage. It was shit. No, no, no, he's not even there anymore. He's out. Not anymore. But when you learned about that years ago, a tent at the right in He's, he's out there, but for the grace of God, go I, but okay. When you learn about, oh, things are shitty between pun intended. When things are shitty between Tory and Dean, is there any part of you that's like, okay, there's your come up and it's like good on good for this is like feeling good about that happening because he left you for her is that that's the Schildenfreude. I'm not German. I just speak a little German.

I can say show that I know I'm so impressed because you've got your Korean you're Philly. I mean, you've spoken a lot of languages to go along. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how to say the word schildenfroid. Social club. Yeah, that's like, yeah, honestly, and truthfully, I could not be more bored by this topic. I move on then didn't care. I just thought the whole thing was skeezy. And I was like, I'm not surprised because I've been hearing about it. It's a good word. And my only my only honestly at this point is will he be a good dad to my son? Will he cover the student loan?

Well, no, he stuck it with me. And he's not a good dad to Jack. So that's all I care about really at the end of the day. And so I don't whatever goes on there. It's noise. It's preferring. We do send him. We do send both of them.

You know, we do hope that they get organized. Yeah, because they have a lot. He's got a lot of kids like he's got Jack with you, but he's got five others, right? Because I call them honey boobies. Okay. So we do wish again, we, especially if he's, he's, I don't know, in recovery, he might have had some addiction issues. Like I, this is no laughing matter.

This is all very serious. So I hope he gets a handle on the addiction issues. On that note, I heard you say Ray Don Chong that you have been what? Nine years without alcohol. Actually, it's been eight, but I said seven. It's actually been eight. Well, now I've made it nine. So you're okay.

So no, it's only been it's only been eight. I was reading my first month sobriety diary yesterday and I saw the date and it was like so cool. And the first month that I was sober, I isolated in Whistler. I took myself out of Los Angeles, away from all of my triggers and friends and who were super drinkers with me. And I put myself alone in a cabin in Whistler

and I did a lot of exercise. I had like a routine. I had what I call sobriety. I guess in a way it's the DTs too, because you have to go through that, that the struggle of addiction. So I went through it alone, but I also used a site. There's a site that was really active called Hello Sunday Morning. And it's a, it's a, it's a website or was more of a Facebook kind of website. It's not like that anymore, but that's from Sydney, Australia, which is the land of a lot of drinking. And these young

people created this world that you could check into every day and blog, read blogs. They had like really cute things like it's, I know this may sound strange, but when you're giving up a behavior It's nice to get stars and to win, you know Say you get yeah, you get a badge for day three. So it was really nice and then there was a community So I was able to sort of talk with other people who were white white knuckling it because I didn't go to a I have a little trouble with the whole Church thing of a I love the fact that people have it for their for their sobriety, but it bugs me on a lot of levels. I have no

problem talking about how badly I was addicted to booze, but I don't ask you a question. For that, I ask you a quick question, because we talked about this before. So when you actually decided to do it, like, were you drinking every every day was it interfering with your life like were you binging like how did it manifest for you I was drinking every day when I was drinking a lot every day and it was winning. that's all I can say it was winning like I bullshitted myself by saying you know wine with dinner couple drinks after dinner and then all of a sudden I realized it was every day. And then one night I was alone at home and the next morning, one night I was alone at home, I don't remember most of the night, but the next morning I woke up and saw in the recycling a whiskey bottle and had absolutely no memory of polishing off that bottle. And that's when I thought, this is only gonna get really bad. And there's probably a million stories

of like my near death experiences, where I tripped and I didn't break my neck. I mean, things like this, I always feel like the unit, first of all, I just wanna say to my angels and my guides that protect me and kept me alive and didn't give me a spinal cord injury or any of the stuff that could have happened or that I didn't murder anybody driving under the influence

because I will say, I will confess, I drove under the influence. I mean, I was everything that you don't want to be a lush. And so it was ugly. And I, that was the, that was for me, I thought this is only going to get, this is going to be bad. So I just decided at that moment when I was looking at the whiskey bottle upside down in my recycling, I'm good. I'm tapping out. So I did, but I knew for me that I had to go somewhere for a month and just sit with myself. month and just sit with myself and I found out as I was in Whistler, I found out that

most of my compulsion to drink came from anxiety, social anxiety. Wow. Yeah, and I did you're quite shy. Actually, I didn't know you're quite shy socially. Not only am I so well, here's the thing. I just realized that when I walked into a party, I would get liquid courage and I counted on it. And then liquid courage would would be like I once had dinner. I once had dinner with John Kennedy Jr. The cute one. I have no memory of that,

but I have a friend who remembers everything. But I'm thinking, it's so sad to have dinner with somebody as cute as that and not really remember it. I mean, it wasn't like anything bad happened or that I wasn't, you know, well behaved, but it was bad that I, I have a friend who tells me about it. And I'm like, I wish I had been there. And he cost Elaine Bennis the contest. Right. She was thinking about JFK junior and then she had to rub one out.

Is this on Seinfeld? Oh, yeah. Sorry. I thought you might know. I'm not. I never watched everything. But yeah, so those kind of things. So it's been eight years and I appreciate Hello Sunday Morning.

You can still go to that site. I just think it's important. You know, all behaviors. I'm reading a book right now called Atomic Habits. Have you heard of it? No. Well, it's an interesting book and I recommend it to your listeners, to your viewers and your listeners. The guy that wrote it had a cataclysmic accident. He was an athlete in high school and he had a really bad accident. Instead of doing what most people do when they have really bad accidents, which is they

can devolve into oxycodone and then die. It just turns out bad because he was a star. But instead, he just changed his behavior one atom at a time. The next thing you know, he completely turned his life around and made an amazing recovery and became a star athlete but he ended up writing a book about it because he discovered that when we need to make really big changes you don't have to do a quantum shift you do an atomic shift a little and it becomes a habit and that little adjustment will compound and so I think that that's important for people to know.

You don't have to do big swings. You just have to be consistent. Well, congrats on the eight years and good for you. And I recently heard an episode of Senior Bitches with Jan Arden and Mary Jo Eustis. And Jan, so Jan's not sure, by the way, this episode bumped our very own Mary Jo Eustis into Jan. Oh, yeah. So Jan's not sure by the way, this episode bumped our very own Mary Jo Eustace into the top 30 on Apple podcast like like it was such a huge episode

for you MJ. Yeah. Yeah. It was like no, it was the top 20 was no. What does that mean? What does that mean? You guys? Does that mean and I even think top 10 I texted you it means that we got into the like, you know, the they only chart the top 200 I was I actually beat this one over here Toronto Mike so we got into the top of the charts and I got into the states Mexico Australia all over the which is really great which was amazing but Jan Jan and you were of course I'm I listened to it twice because I heard it in real time and then I re listened to it after the edits and everything and then I heard Jan was talking about her sobriety, like she quit drinking. And then MJ revealed that she was taking a break. Give us an update on that MJ. Like, why did you take a break? Are you still on

the break? What is the plans with your alcohol consumption? My alcohol? I'm still on the break. I'm still on the break. And to Ray Don's point, I didn't forget dinner as glamorous with, you know, our GFK Jr. Sorry, John Kennedy, not Robert John, that's the hot one. I mean, he's was a hot piece, but they both were. But I do forget, I don't remember things. And I don't, I don't remember parts of evenings and it inhibited behavior that maybe I wouldn't have done if I wasn't drinking. Plus, you know, ordering online late at night and then stuff coming and going, what the hell is this? Like, and plus bad headaches, I wasn't feeling good

and it wasn't doing anything for me. It wasn't serving me. And I thought I don't want to do this anymore. I really don't want to do it. I was looking way too forward to my evening cocktail and it did change my my evening cocktail. And it did change my behavior, for sure. And so I thought I'm just going to go cold turkey. And now that I've started I had like I'm going to my mother's 87th birthday on Thursday. And I'm not going to drink because I want to remember every conversation. And to your point, I was forgetting things that were happening and I am a lightweight and I actually read chemically that can happen.

It just hits you. The alcohol hits you in a different way and you don't remember. So I could maybe go years. I mean, I do love the idea of being in Rome or somewhere and having a glass of wine. I love that idea. But I had no desire to drink at this moment. By the way, Mary Jo, I saw a house that's for sale for like 230 euros. It's near Umbria and it's really rustic and it needs to be redone.

There's buildings on it and I think it's an acre and it's got water. Should I pick it up and we can do Christmas there next year? I'm going to send it to you because I thought of you and I thought, oh, I'd almost want to ship my. Let's buy it together, the three of us. Like I want to be the co-owner of this house with you too. I know. Let's do it. This is my dream. I'm going to buy something in Italy and we talked even about last Christmas going to Italy for Christmas. So I definitely want to do that. That's a dream.

We all love Italy. Let me shout out authentic Italian food you can get right here in the greater Toronto area. Okay. I wish you to know I've never met Ray Don Chong in the flesh. Like she won't come to Toronto, even though Precious Chong lives here. Oh, before I forget, I'm going to come back to Palma pasta. But did you read on Chong here? Precious Precious. It's hard to say P Chong precious Chong. Yeah. Did you hear her on Toronto Mike? She made her debut. She's an FOTM. Yeah. She made her debut on Toronto Mike. Yeah, she was good. Her debut. I did precious Chong show. She'd been trying to get me to do it for years. Oh, story and Chong. Is that what it's story and Chong or do I got the wrong show?

It was another show she was doing on being a mom. Okay, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was adorable. Okay. So all this is to say that Precious got a large lasagna from Palma Pasta because she came here into my basement studio. One day, if either of you ever make your way down here, I will reward

you with delicious Italian food from Palma Pasta. I like that. But no Great Lakes beer because neither of you are drinking, so no Great Lakes for you. I'm there this weekend, Biatch. I'll head on down to the West Coast. Can I tell you something? Can I tell you something? I will tell you one moment that I feel where I'll get a little pang for a drink is when when I look when I go to a nice swanky restaurant and I look at their whiskey backlit The golden brown moment of light and I'll just have a moment. I'm like, oh, yeah, right. Yeah Cuz I was a red wine whiskey girl

Weird combo, but I'm white wine gin no vodka because it makes me crazy. Crazy. But white wine and gin, for sure. For sure, for sure. So much love to Palma Pasta, much love to Great Lakes Brewery, much love to Ridley Funeral Home Pillars of this community since 1921. Raymond James Canada has a fantastic podcast called the Advantage Investor podcast. In fact, I was recording with

them downtown at King and Young Street here in Toronto when I got a WhatsApp call from Mary Jo Eustace asking me, have you seen people.com today? That was the question. And I was standing beside Chris Cooksey when I got it. And I was like, I got to bike home now, but what's going on? And there you go. And Chris Cooksey likes to remind me that he was in the room when I got the call and I was like, I got a bike home now, but what's going on? And there you go. And Chris Cooksy likes to remind me that he was in the room when I got the call that I was referenced in the tabloids. Oh my God. Congratulations.

Yes. So that was his cherry. Yeah, exactly. So subscribe to that. I want to ask you something, Mike. Anything, please. Really quickly about your Justin Trudeau. Yes, he's our prime minister.

Why is everyone picking on him your Justin Trudeau. Yes, he's our Prime Minister. Why is everyone picking on him about his gifts from a billionaire? I don't understand why that's the thing. Oh no, it's not everyone. Has he met Clarence Thomas? If I will. I'm talking to you from Toronto, Ontario, Canada and it is, as you know, because you're both Canadian, it's the largest city in the country Here, you know all our seats go to the Liberal Party

Federally all our seats go to the Liberal Party or NDP like none of the seats go to the Conservative Party of Canada Trudeau this is coming from elsewhere in this country where they've decided we've had enough of Trudeau It's time to try something more Trumpian like Pierre Paulie. Yeah, like that's inevitable that's going to happen But it won't be because of Toronto, Ontario, Canada. We will not give a single seat to Pierre Poliev's Conservative Party of Canada. Right, right. Where will it come from? East coast? No, it'll come from the oil, right? West coast? Well, lots of Ontario will do it, just not Toronto. So a lot of Ontario, especially as you get to the 705 and stuff like that's going

to go Conservative. A lot of the West will go conservative. Not too much in Quebec, maybe some of the Maritimes. But yeah, I suspect the Conservative Party will get a majority next election. But whenever that happens in the next couple years, I hope not. I hope not. I hope not. Well, I hope not too. But I get one vote. Are you a Chiefs fan? Excuse me. I look at how she asked. I've been a Chiefs fan for four years. I actually went about when the Chiefs played the 49ers in 2020 and I was dating this super hot guy and I won and we went to Pebble Beach, Pelican Hill for the weekend because I won the Chiefs one. I love the Chiefs. I've loved I listened to the Kelsey Brothers podcast. I've listened to it for as long as they've had it. I adore it. And I love Travis.

Patrick Mahomes is my guy. Watch the series quarterback. Honestly, Patrick Mahomes is my mentor. I love him. I love the Chiefs. Is that how you say it? Mahomes or Mahomes? Mahomes.

Us will go. He's our Mahomey. Like people in the know know that. That's what you say about Patrick. So I'm really Chiefs and he looks mixed. Yeah. His mom's white, his dad's black and he's tremendous. He could have been a baseball star. Athletically. He's absolutely incredible. He's incredible. Mindset. He's so scrappy. I could talk about his lateral frozen his eye hand coordination, but I won't. But they're playing the 49ers and I love the 49ers It's gonna be a great game too bad about Detroit, but you know what Detroit and the Buffalo Bills

This is what I said to my brothers. I said my brother. I said the 49ers and the Chiefs are closers Right never count them out. If they have a minute on the field, they're gonna make it happen. They're gonna Now it's in Vegas. It's in Vegas I know God what it's so close. I'd walk to Vegas to watch I actually have a connection in Vegas I have his name is Jay Sean and he is my brother and he owns Vegas. He is oh He's a superstar and he can we go in the rig. Can we drive in the rig and go? Will you come with me? We will talk about it because first of all, I don't even care about football and it would

be a super full ticket, but I might be able to. I'm going to. I'm after the show. We'll talk. I'll give you a hot dog. I'll buy the hot dogs. No beer. The only time I've ever heard her say that.

Let's go on the rig. Oh, my God. I'd love it. Seriously. I'm obsessed. Yes. I'm very excited. They're in the Super Bowl. I'm sure the tickets are super expensive because it's Vegas and everybody wants to go to Vegas for some reason. Yeah. But maybe you have to know if we I mean, if I knew somebody and I could get a

ticket, I drive my right now, his phone's ringing off the hook. But what he does is he is literally the mayor of Vegas. He is. And he'd have fun. We'd go. We'd have fun. Look, there's still a train on at the Super Bowl. Jay Sean is my stepbrother.

He's my mom's second husband's son. Okay, work on it. And even if you don't love football, explain how it goes. Want some hot dogs and popcorn. I don't. I have to say, I'm not a football. I'm a tennis girl. Mike, help on it. And even if you don't love football, explain how it goes. I'm a tennis girl. Mike, help me out. Tell her I will say that's a radon charm. Like, because I know people who don't like football, but maybe you can get into the event of it all. Like this isn't all these eyeballs on the same thing. If I could get Mary Jo in and get her a ticket and set her up, because she knows how I roll. I'm very generous. Right. So I'm

going to find out if there is any way I mean, there is a limit. Mary Jo actually has money right now. So is that true? My accountant wants to know, do you have money right now? I do. I do send those old invoices. Do you like how I pay the second we're done now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got some talking to do after this. That's amazing. Hey, I have a note. So I have like a Google doc that it's like a living breathing organism. I'm always taking notes on like potential guests and questions I have for them. And I realized last time you were on Mary Jo, I had a question for you that we ran out of time and I never got to it.

And I'm glad Ray Don Chong is here because I'm going to play a song and then I kind of need the story about this. Are you ready to listen to a little music with me? Sure. Okay. Good. Imagine you said no, I'd say. Oh no.

Oh God, no. I'm so scared. How much do I learn me count the waves Cause I run out of numbers Cause you walked away Something's out of order here Something has gone strange You don't even love me I'm just your mischange. Okay this song is called Lose Change. Raedon, do you know who's singing this song?

The irreplaceable Mary Jo Eustace. Okay, Mary Jo. Ohace. Okay, Mary Jo. Oh wow. Wow, what a blast from the past. Wow. Wow, where did you find that? We need all the details because I feel like we talk about so much about the show you had of Ken Kostek and then you had the cooking show and then you had the show on Proud FM.

Bob Ouellette's a good friend. He comes over every month. We say, hey Bob, Mary Jo used this. And we smile, we laugh. We love it. We love it all. We talk about the tabloid bullshit and we talk about how you have senior bitches and we never talk about this. Please tell us about your recording career. Recording. That is so sweet of you. I got a record deal. I got a record deal. I was old for it, I think in my early 30s, but I had been doing it for 10 years and it was my second record deal. And I loved it. And I played with great musicians. Bill Bell, who plays with Tom Cochran and

was Jason Mraz's musical director. I actually had Mike Taylor in my band who was in Walk Off the Earth. You know that band? They're going- Burlington. He passed away. He passed away in his sleep. And Andy Koyama, my boyfriend at the time,

but I was having an affair with a guitarist, never a good idea, is an Oscar nominated sound mixer. So yeah, I just, yeah. That's the sweetest thing I found out. You sounded really, really good. That was one of my soft ones. I used to do the rock and roll and belting and stuff.

But yeah. She sounded good. You can hear her voice too. Oh, thank you. So did you wanna be- Thank you, I loved it. Did you wanna be like a, I don't know, like a Jan Arden? Like, was that the goal? Yeah. I wanted to be, I wanted to do music.

And we finally got a great manager, the guy who managed Blue Rodeo, and I think Jake Gold was involved and they put us on the road. And I remember this one night we'd been playing for a long time. And finally in the fifth or sixth song, I'm like, wow, we're getting good.

I didn't know you had to do that. Like we just went everywhere and played everywhere. And then we got really good and got the deal and you know, whatever but it was it was a moment. I loved it. Loved it. Did you like the road though? Did you like being on the road? I didn't love that. Wasn't loving that, you know, I needed the rig. Yeah, we needed the rig, but we actually got better and I was like, this is how you have to do it to be really good. And it was a great ride. You're dropping big names there like Jay Gold, right? And all Canadians know the tragic and I was in a blue. This is so funny.

I was in a blue rodeo video. I loved blue rodeo, Jim Cuddy and who's the other guy? Greg, Greg Keeler. Is it Greg Keeler? So Ray Don, I get in this video, I tell everybody I'm in the video, I'm so excited. So I play a sexy cleaning lady at a motel and I go in and you know, there's shots of my legs and this short dress and I'm like, in every scene, I tell everybody it comes out, it's my feet in the back of my head. Okay, what song is this from?

What song is this video from? Oh God, I have to look it up. I can't remember what it is. And I ran into the guys and I went right up to them. I'm like, what's going on? And they were like, Oh, we didn't edit it. But I was, I thought it was going to be so famous being in the blue radio video, but we opened for them a few times and stuff. And it was, okay. I had a woman over here recently, Michelle McAdory. Do times and stuff and it was. Okay. I had a woman over here recently, Michelle McAdory. Do you know this name? Yeah.

Yeah. Crash Vegas, crash Vegas. And that was her boyfriend at the time was Greg Keeler and she's in, she's in a couple of, she's in try and a couple of blue rodeo videos. I know. She got the lead. Right. Not me.

By the way, just to change the subject for a second. Yeah. Have you guys been seeing the Sophia Vergara to change the subject for a second. Yeah. Have you guys been seeing the Sofia Vergara show Griselda? No. Is it good? On Netflix. I never like really violent television shows.

It's not my jam. But Sofia Vergara is playing a Colombian drug dealer and it's really good. It's called Griselda and it's on Netflix. You will like it. Sorry. I just had to say that because it was like, no, my mom told me about it. My nephew had a birthday last weekend and I saw her and my mom was telling me about this. Yeah.

So feel very good. So, okay. All right. And I check it out as I was listening to you talk about being showing your feet. I was thinking, you know, women speaking of empowerment, this show about this drug dealer, it's not just about the coke and the violence and the whole thing. It's actually about power and about how this Columbia woman rises to be the godmother of Miami and then the world of coke. And it's fascinating. And so be of a girl is doing a great job.

Yay, girl, go. I'm going to tune in in I got a few more things to get through like the real houseways of Salt Lake City But you watch that with you watch that with your son, right? Oh Yeah, he turned me on to and I couldn't even believe it like I started Oh my god, there's one woman who like married her grandfather One's going to jail one beat her up They go on girl trips and all they do is yell and scream at each other and dress up like costumes. It's bizarre, but I cannot stop and the Mormon Church is in the background. Wow. It's so dumb.

But I love it. Why did your music? Go ahead, go ahead. Are you saying I just get back to Mary Jo Mary Jo is a rock star. Well, Mary Jo, why did it? I could have been why did it? Why does it come to an end, your musical dreams? My musical dreams. Oh, do you remember a band called Frozen Ghost? Arnie, Lanny, Arnold Lanny.

Yeah, I know him well. He started up our lady piece. Yeah, he produced us and then he wanted me to leave the band and go solo. Talk about like, and I wouldn't do it. So I worked with Arnie and I would just go up and write and record. You know what happened? I got notes from lot singing live. And then I had surgery and it changed my voice. And then I came back but I did the record after my voice changed but my voice was so pure before that but I am fascinating. I didn't know this. Oh, I

didn't know. So your voice, you had this pure voice and then you had these nodes from singing and then whatever procedure they do changed your voice and you couldn't hit that note, I guess, or you couldn't sing with that purity. That's the same. You have to relearn. You have to relearn how and once I did

relearn and I started because I started training for it and you know getting back into it and again it's like the 10,000 hours you've got to keep doing it and then I was I got to my old level but it was like singing every day and being on top of it now I can barely sing I mean I can if I work on it but I knew my voice back then I got it back but it took a year. But you're multi talented company came to me, the record company came to me and said, we want to sign you. And I'm like, I remember going for lunch with this guy and going, I just had certain, you know, anyway, so I worked it back and it was an accomplishment.

It was something I wanted to do. And I've written like hundreds of songs with super, super cool people. So yeah, I just, that was my dream. That's what I wanted to do. Cause Ray Dawn could introduce you to Mick Jagger. Apparently. No, he doesn't talk to me anymore. He stopped talking to me when I did a press

about how it was gross to be licked by him on film. I said, I didn't really like it. And that was the end of us. Well, I thought you'd say licked by him in in the bedroom, but no, okay. Right. That's personal. But on film, he licks my face. And I remember being sort of offended that why would he do that? It wasn't even like a thing. But my dog is making noise. But I was going to say, Mary Jo, your friend, Mary, Maria, Maria

McKee, would tell you the life of a rock star, even if you're super successful, is really hard. Oh, yeah. She couldn't do it. She couldn't do it. You know, justice. She opened for you to like she's brilliant. You know, she can do a really tough life and I don't think it's fun. And I think you get on the road and you're super lonely. It's one thing to be a guy doing that and it's already really hard on you but being a female it's so I think it sucks.

Yeah, I did love it and if I ever got my act together again I would start to write again because I love songwriting but yeah that's so funny you found out that was such a significant part of my life. You know who tipped me off? I'm doing it. Mary Jo because I was very- Who tipped you off? I'm about to name the name's tipped me off? Mary Jo, because I was very- Who tipped you off? I'm about to name the name that tipped me off.

Mick Jagger? You guys fuck off. Who? I know, seriously. I also look like a young Moroccan boy, so he's kind of into me, I think. But okay, so this is years ago, when we first started working together, Mary Jo,

I got a note from a listener who's listening right now, Blair Packham from The Jitters. Oh, yes. Blair said, you know, I know, you know, so tell us how you know Blair Packham since he's listening to us right now. Blair Packham was, did he, this is so funny. Are you going to edit this? We could talk for days. I'm not going to. I believe he played with Moe in the pursuit of happiness. Moe Berg. I could be wrong. Moe Berg. Moe Berg.

I think he also played with one of my really good friends, Melanie Joan. Okay. When you say played with, you mean like shared a stage for a one-off? Is that what you mean? Yeah. What's it? What was his band? The Jitters.

Okay. I've been a fool, played a dumb, should have played it smart. Use my head, but not my heart. Must have been crazy. I've met him. You've met him. I've met him. I definitely know his name and I think he's played like all those Canadians.

Like we did, like I wrote with Sarah Harmer. Like we all went on. Well, name drop here. I'm trying to find out if the, so this is like a songwriter circle or something where this is what was described to me by Blair. Like you write songs together in some circle. Yeah, it was really, it was a really cool thing. So they took all the Canadian musicians and there was big musicians in it.

Like I, uh, Sarah Harmer, he was in it. Um, Mo Berg might've been in it like, and then they would just pair you up randomly with somebody to write a song, right? Which I thought was a great idea. And then you'd have two weeks to do it. And actually on that album CD, I don't even know what you call them anymore. I wrote it. I co-wrote a song called Hurricane, which is one of my favorite songs that came out of that songwriting workshop. It was an amazing thing. Who did you write Hurricane with? Who did you write it with? Bob Dylan? Who'd you write that with?

artist. Who did you write it with? Bob Dylan? Who'd you write that with? But it was Bob. It was Bob. Bob Dylan was there. Van Morrison, Springsteen. No, seriously though, was that a Blair Packham production? Was that you and Blair or was that somebody else you wrote Hurricane with? It was a woman and I can't remember her name. Okay. It was Joni Mitchell. It was Joni Mitchell. It was Joni Mitchell. It was Joni Mitchell. But Joni Mitchell is going to play at the Grammys. I know. First time she's ever played at the Grammys. No, she's going to play at the bowl. Well, at the Grammys too.

She's coming in, I think October 24th. She's going to be playing live at the bowl. Love that. Love it. Well, I'm going to see her on the Grammys because it's cheaper for me to just watch her on the TV. Okay, so again, we'll talk for a couple more minutes here because I want to make sure you have an opportunity to ask me all the questions you have about my health and my blood clotting and all that exciting stuff. But Raedon, did you see, did you have a near death experience? No, I don't think so because I didn't get the stroke. Like I was in the stroke ward sleeping with the stroke victims because a stroke was imminent,

but this, well, obviously not imminent because I never did stroke out. So I had the, like, well, I had a blood clot on my brain, which if you don't get it in time, it leads to a stroke. And that's why I was in the stroke unit or whatever, but I went on blood thinners and I never did get the stroke. So in the blood clots gone now. So I just have a long story short, if that's possible. Now I have a disorder that causes my blood to clot, but they don't know what it is because they don't have a test for it because I test negative for everything they have a test for. So really like literally on Thursday, I get a cat scan on another part

of my colon, my tract or whatever, because really at this point they're just trying to make sure it's not cancer, which because that's something that causes blood clots. But I don't have, I've not tested positive for anything that they have a test for. So right now I just take blood thinners. I wonder if you're allergic to something. I don't know. I came out of nowhere in March 2023. So this is, I've been living with this for less than a year.

So I don't know. It just, you know, I don't know if you're allergic to something. I wonder if it's environmental even. Do you know about the industry in your neighborhood? So these are the big questions. I don't know. I don't like, I don't know. I have a hematologist and I had a neurologist for the brain, but I have a hematologist for the blood clotting and I just kind of leave it in their capable hands. And then we kind of, you know, but I don't know. I always wonder though, sometimes what happens is people don't realize that sometimes an

industry moves into a neighborhood and they have effulgent. They have, they dump at night and if it's a toxic substance, it can impact you because you're sleeping at night unaware that you're breathing in something that could create a DNA, an adjustment into your system. And I don't know where you live, but it happens often and it's unregulated because a lot of times people don't, obviously they don't follow regulation. So you should find out what's in your neighborhood. Something might have moved in cry, you know, at 2003 that causes your body to respond because it sounds like an allergic reaction. Okay, but yes, 2023 is when I got my first blood clot.

Yeah. Okay. Excuse me, 2020. I call them my little blood clotting friend. That's what I call them. I know, but you should find out like if I don't know where you guys live. Well, I'm very like so Ray Don Chong, I'm so hyper aware of everything going on in the hood here.

Like I'm on my bike exploring every nook and cranny and you know, there is a new a new coffee shop opened and I'm going to keep my eye on where they're dumping those coffee grounds. But I'm going to. I went for, I was driving from a racetrack because my ex-husband was a race car aficionado and he had designed this race car. Anyway, we were driving home and we were in Massachusetts, northern Massachusetts, and there was a smell and it was really bad. And sure enough, I looked it up and it was this toxic, it was actually a paper mill and it was dumping stuff at night and nope. And like really bad stuff.

And people are sleeping. So there's cancers and stuff that come from these, so when they say they think it's a cancer, I'm just thinking you might be suffering from something like that. Well, let's hope it's, who knows what it is, but I'll let you know as soon as I get some kind of a diagnosis on what causes these blood clots.

But I wanna read a note for you, Ray Don Chong from Buffalo Boy. Buffalo Boy is a good listener, he comes to our events. And Buffalo Boy said, my favorite Ray Don Chong from Buffalo Boy. Buffalo Boy is a good listener. He comes to our events. And Buffalo Boy said, my favorite Ray Don Chong movie, this is going to shock you to hear that it's Commando when she fired the rocket launcher at the police. She does that every day that I know her. She's so busy doing that. And what does he want to know? Or he just wants, I don't know. He just, I went on Twitter and said you were coming on and then he, he wanted to let us

know that he loves my bazooka work was got him inspired. Do you want to hear five seconds? Hey, Mary Jo, do you want me to play five seconds of Ray Don Chong on in commando with a guy named Arnold Schwarzenegger? You want to hear it? I think I do. Yes. I've never even seen it.

I want to hear it. Let me hear. Okay. Let's play these five seconds. Are you all right? I think I'm dead. You're all right. Wait for me. That was it. I, they don't, you know, it's, that was it. So I pulled a little clip there. I think I'm dead. All I do is squeal in this movie. What are you doing? God, you sound, it's super sexy. I'm going to watch it tonight.

So Mary Jo, you've never- After Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. I was going to say, you become very good friends friends of Ray Don Chong and you don't think about you know watching her biggest the biggest movie she's ever been in. I always forget I'm in movies until I don't like. Yeah, I mean I know I should watch Commando and Press for Fire. No, I want to. I want to. Press for Fire I'm actually proud of. Yeah of course. I mean Commando of course. I mean, come on together and I can get commentary. Let's watch it together. No, you know what I like to do? I will tell I have this thing. I should probably do it for like one of those mystery house theater with the puppets. What is

that called? You know, those guys, Mystery Science 3000. Yeah, I like that show. And I like to watch my super bad, horrible movies and then make fun of me and I can tell you what I'm thinking in the scenes. Like I did that with a film called The Borrower, which is just unwatchably bad. And I'm trying to get out of the movie while I'm making the movie. Well, I would watch Commando with you, like just a box where you in real time give us like commentary on everything. I would do that. Okay, before we say goodbye to everybody, I've already told the world they should subscribe

to Senior Bitches. It's a great podcast from Mary Jo Eustis. I would do that. Okay before we say goodbye to everybody. I've already told the world they should subscribe to senior bitches It's a great podcast from Mary Jo Eustis, but just a final check in here rate on Chong. Like how are you doing? What's going on in your world? Is there anything we should look forward to seeing from you in the near future? What would you like to say to everybody? I don't think I have anything other than I have I'm on all the platforms I'm auditioning for stuff. I just found out I didn't get one of my other than I have I'm on all the platforms. I'm auditioning for stuff I just found out I didn't get one of my jobs that I auditioned for which was actually don't care. I Mean you want to do a good job But then when they don't go with you

It's usually what it's a it's a saying rejection is protection and you don't want to be in a job that they don't want you So there you go. I'm not doing anything. I'm actually just playing lot of tennis taking care of my animals. Is that a euphemism? Taking care of your animals was that a euphemism? I have two pit bulls that I take care of. I literally have animals. Okay. And I'm crazy about my dog so I'm learning how to be a good dog mommy. Taking care of my boyfriend who's a musician and he's making a record. Yeah I'm just I'm actually enjoying not not not doing. I have nothing on the horizon and I'm enjoying that. I'm just finishing a book or two, trying to kind of do that.

Get more disciplined about writing every day. And it's trying to write a book that's interesting that I would read, not a book for people. Like, in other words, I'm not writing for the dance. I'm writing for myself. And it's taking a long time. Hey, what kind of music does your boyfriend make? Like what genre? Like folk? So Mitchell is a master guitarist and he specializes in world music. He speaks fluent Portuguese and he's a jazz, but he plays churro and Brazilian samba and he's bossa nova.

I mean, he's a really good musician and he's gotten better. His singing, everything's just so good. Right, you're his muse. You're his muse? I'm definitely his muse and he writes songs for me. I mean, he's annoying. I think musician boyfriends suck,

but I do love him, which is amazing. And I will say being in a relationship, especially now we're in our seventh year is hard. I think it's really hard. And so I mostly love him. But a lot of times I hate his guts. Okay, he knows that he's standing right on the other side. I've heard he's listening to you. Yeah, but uh, but I respect it and I respect being.

Yeah. So here I am a human being. I'm trying to be a better human. Okay, well you look great, you sound great, and I love following you on the social media, and I love that I consider you a wonderful FOTM, and this won't be the last time we talk, but I appreciate you coming back on. I'm definitely, I'm definitely an FOTM. And you're definitely coming back, and I don't know why you won't visit Precious, none of my business, but at some point you should come to Toronto and then we can like embrace. Yes, we will.

We will definitely. Over lasagna. You'll. We will share a meal and giggle. Oh my God. That sounds amazing. And Mary Jo, you're coming to Toronto like tomorrow. When are you coming here?

I'm coming Thursday. Okay. What time should I be? Maybe coffee, like maybe coffee. Maybe coffee. I'm going to let you guys fall in love. I love you so Thursday. Okay, what time should I get in? Maybe coffee, like maybe coffee. I'm gonna let you guys fall in love. I love you so much. Okay, Ray Don's leaving. Bye Ray Don Chong. Bye honey. Bye Canada. Bye bye. Bye bye. Bye. Mary Jo, you and I are gonna close the show. This is the way the good Lord intended here. You're coming to Toronto because your mom's turning 87. She's turning 87. I'm coming to

Toronto. So if you're on your bike, maybe we can do a little coffee or something. I'm always on my bike. Okay, perfect. I'd be happy to come over. And then I think we might have a really gas, a big gas we're doing on Sunday. Yeah, like I was just saying finalize that. Yeah. Do you want to tease anything? Is there anything that's locked in? I know that we have some recordings coming up, but is it too premature to name these people? Or do you want to like just get people excited about what's coming down the senior bitches pipe? Well, we have a show we're going to drop Wednesday or Thursday with Caroline Bodino, who is a huge, I didn't want to say influencer. I don't love that, but she's got a million followers. She is changing the way women think about themselves and dress. And she was just pure joy. And we're

going to do Patty Stanger from the Millionaire Matchmaker next week. So I'm excited about that. And I'm just going to get confirmation on Captain Jason from below deck. He's in Dubai. So we're trying to schedule that. So we have so many cool people coming up. So we love this. We're very excited. Very. And I love having you on Toronto Miked. I want to thank the great Bob Willett for introducing us with no Bob, no MJ on Toronto Miked, right? Cracked. Absolutely cracked Bob Willett, who used to eat a hot dog at six in the morning, barf, when he produced my radio show.

We love you, Bob. Hot dog? You have to make it yourself, right? There's no vendor selling you hot dogs at six in the morning. It's so gross, he dropped it on the control board. I can't talk about it. I'm still traumatized.

And that brings us to the end of our 1,420th show. You can follow me on Twitter and Blue Sky. I'm at Toronto Mike. The place to follow Mary Jo I've learned is Instagram. Follow Mary Jo Eustace on Instagram. It's really the only social media she posts to. And it sounds like Rae Dawn Chong is everywhere, so follow her wherever you like to follow people on social media. Much love to all who made this episode possible. That's Great Lakes Brewery. That's Palma Pasta.

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